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humble mirage
winged atlas
placid sage
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Installation enden on shell

sly plank
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I have been using home assistant for quite a while at home. Now i want it at my cabin as well. I installer a fresh OS on a RPI 3 and got it set up with Nabu Casa Remote UI before i left. Now that im home, i can Access everything except addons and backups. They just show blank pages, not Even the menues or header. I have tried host reboot and restarts, but with no luck. Any clues on what might be wrong?

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I have not yet done enything but the remote UI

brazen herald
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Is their IP address hardcoded or similar?

sly plank
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It has to run on wifi (we only have a 4G router), but no the wifi is getting its address from DHCP

brazen herald
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I mean, are the addons hard coded to use the IP address of what it had when you set it up at home?

sly plank
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Oh no, i set it up at the cabin, and i have never seen the addons Page at this instance

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So no addons are installed yet

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Its just a clean install. And the Settings -> Addons Page is blank

brazen herald
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And you used the download from the home assistant website installing HAOS?

sly plank
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Yes, Balena Etcher with the URL for the 64bit version

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Am i allowed to send imgur links here?

brazen herald
sly plank
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Wut, it just started working now. Not because i clicked the link, because that opened my home hass, but still. It just works 🤷

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Could be shabby 4G coverage. But strange that everything else was snappy

humble mirage
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If not, look for a cloudflared add-on

balmy mason
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Hello! I had a big problem with the NabuCasa integration.... 😫 I Did install, but after that I've lost my local Acces IP option. After that I forgot on my Test period on Nabu casa expired. Then now I can not acces throw Nabu Casa and not Throw my Local IP. Does any one can help me? 🤕

humble mirage
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You can always use the local IP

balmy mason
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It doesn't allows me

humble mirage
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The only time that it may appear not to work is if you're doing SSL directly in HA

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If that's the case then you just need to use https:// to access it, instead of http://

balmy mason
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oh! Thanks!

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It worked!

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It's true!

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😋

humble mirage
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Your problem has nothing to do with Nabu Casa cz_wink

balmy mason
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If there is anything I can do for you someday just let me know!

balmy mason
fringe phoenix
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I was surprised to see that the official home assistant docker image doesn't contain the hass-cli utility. Is that a deliberate decision or just that nobody has had a desire to add it?

humble mirage
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Why would you need it inside the container?

fringe phoenix
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I was thinking about restoring a snapshot

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and taking snapshots on a regular basis... I'm guessing there's probably a better way?

humble mirage
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Well, Git's not great for backup, for the reasons above

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Beyond that, how you do backups depends on how you installed HA. You have different choices if you're using Container vs HAOS for instance

fringe phoenix
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That makes sense. Is there a common practice for folks using the Container?

humble mirage
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Most folks simply add it to their existing backup solution

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urbackup, rsnapshot, rclone, duplicati, etc etc etc

fringe phoenix
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Is there a solution for cron-like triggers of backups?

humble mirage
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Depends on what backup solution you're using

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There's no generic answer to that, because they're all different

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rsnapshot and rclone for instance are command line, so typically run from cron itself

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URBackup has a full UI, so it's handled internally

opaque sinew
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docker run -d -e PUID=1000 -e PGID=999
bash-5.1# whoami
root

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it doesn't appear to be honoring my explicit call outs.

humble mirage
frozen creek
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Is it normal for Supervisor to create so many config files in NetworkManager?

festivus@tongs:/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections$ ls -la
total 32
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root 4096 Jun 27 13:28  .
drwxr-xr-x 7 root root 4096 Jun 27  2022  ..
-rw------- 1 root root  531 Jun 27 13:28 'Supervisor eth0-35e190b0-b198-43f5-9ec5-c6540ad574eb.nmconnection'
-rw------- 1 root root  531 Jun 27 13:28 'Supervisor eth0-3addf5b4-f07d-4193-8d50-ba16f7e095bd.nmconnection'
-rw------- 1 root root  531 Jun 27 13:28 'Supervisor eth0-63014238-5698-4b65-91e3-04525231ca66.nmconnection'
-rw------- 1 root root  633 Jun 27 13:20 'Supervisor eth0-e7cb43ef-1526-4601-92ea-08b944c04bc8.nmconnection'
-rw------- 1 root root  531 Jun 27 13:22 'Supervisor eth0.nmconnection'
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  181 Nov  3  2021  default
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HA is having issues resolving names on my home network. Im trying to work out why the NetworkManager config is being clobbered by HA.

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festivus@tongs:/etc/NetworkManager/system-connections$ nmcli con sho
NAME             UUID                                  TYPE      DEVICE 
Supervisor eth0  63014238-5698-4b65-91e3-04525231ca66  ethernet  eth0   
Supervisor eth0  6a5906e6-3eec-4cfb-a77a-56dc1e92453f  ethernet  --     
Supervisor eth0  35e190b0-b198-43f5-9ec5-c6540ad574eb  ethernet  --     
Supervisor eth0  3addf5b4-f07d-4193-8d50-ba16f7e095bd  ethernet  --     
Supervisor eth0  e7cb43ef-1526-4601-92ea-08b944c04bc8  ethernet  --
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In an effort to try and triage/fix the behaviour, I shutdown HA and Docker. Configured NetworkManager to my desired state. Had it all working nicely.

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Restart HA and Docker. Supervisor comes along and puts these files in the system-connections path. Name resolution breaks.

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At least thats what it looks like is happening.

abstract hearthBOT
frozen creek
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lol

abstract hearthBOT
frozen creek
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noted

frozen creek
humble mirage
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Check the version (number) of the Supervisor you're on

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You should be on

  "supervisor": "2022.05.3",
``` according to <https://version.home-assistant.io/stable.json>
frozen creek
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supervisor: 2022.05.3

frozen creek
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Not sure what's changed. Things appear to have returned to normal operation.

frozen creek
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Its possible also that an update re-enabled systemd-resolve as well. I had to disable it again.

lofty wyvern
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First time trying this. Flashed the image onto a 512GB card, but cannot access the homepage over the network.

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What can I try?

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i can't even see a new device on my network to get an ip address. I assume the flash didn't work correctly.

humble mirage
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Can you hook up a keyboard and monitor?

lofty wyvern
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I can try

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Is there a way to check the card before doing that?

humble mirage
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Check it for what?

lofty wyvern
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Just to see it has the installation on it?

humble mirage
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It's hard to diagnose a stopped system, unless you're really at home with Linux

lofty wyvern
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Ok, I'll hook up a monitor

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Hooked up a monitor. No picture shows.

humble mirage
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You'll need to power cycle it - HAOS doesn't use the display if it's not connected on powerup

lofty wyvern
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Already tried that. Nothing.

humble mirage
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If there's nothing at all it sounds like a bad flash

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Or a bad SD card, or a bad power supply

lofty wyvern
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I tried a different power supply. Nothing. I'm flashing it again now.

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Do I need to do any prep to the SD card?

humble mirage
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No

lofty wyvern
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Reflashing hasn't worked either.

humble mirage
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You're using Flash from URL or are you downloading an image?

lofty wyvern
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URL

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I have just flashed to another card. That's not working either.

brazen herald
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Try downloading the package first. It's pretty big

lofty wyvern
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Package is about 220mb? Tried it. Not working.

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I really don't know what else to try.

brazen herald
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It's 264mb, not 220

lofty wyvern
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Ok. The file I have is 257,843KB. It's still not working unfortunately.

brazen herald
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Have you tried a smaller SD card?

lofty wyvern
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Sorry. I think I have it working now. I have a screen that says "Preparing Home Assistant" I think initially it was a LAN point problem, then my Onkyo receiver couldn't pick up the HDMI signal.

opaque sinew
merry summit
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In the HA UI I see this:

unknown.png
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df -h gives this output:

Filesystem      Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
overlay          98G   89G  5.3G  95% /
tmpfs           8.3G     0  8.3G   0% /sys/fs/cgroup
/dev/sda8        98G   89G  5.3G  95% /ssl
devtmpfs        8.3G     0  8.3G   0% /dev
tmpfs           8.3G     0  8.3G   0% /dev/shm
tmpfs           8.3G     0  8.3G   0% /proc/asound
tmpfs           8.3G     0  8.3G   0% /proc/acpi
tmpfs           8.3G     0  8.3G   0% /proc/scsi
tmpfs           8.3G     0  8.3G   0% /sys/firmware
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And du -sh * shows that /backup is by far the largest directory:

➜  / du -sh * | sort -h
...
4.0K    home
4.0K    init
4.0K    lib64
...
14G     backup
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Where is the rest? The data that is filling up 60% of the drive?

humble mirage
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From overlay it looks like you're running that from inside a Docker container

merry summit
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I am...

humble mirage
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Then it won't have visibility of everything else

merry summit
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I guess the rest of the data is outside the HA container?

humble mirage
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That'd be the logical conclusion

merry summit
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But how can I see/investigate what is eating my storage?

humble mirage
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Run the commands on the host itself?

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If you're using HAOS use the local console

merry summit
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How? I can only seem to get access to the HA CLI...

humble mirage
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At the console, type login

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It used to tell you this when you connected, but they removed that for some reason

merry summit
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I can think why... 😉

humble mirage
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As if too many people screwed up their system... that'd never happen

merry summit
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My fu*** tmp dir is 47.9GB!??

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Shouldnt that be cleared when restarting the supervisor or rebooting the host?

placid sage
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Hi everyone, I'm just getting started with HA and already running into a problem. The server is not showing up on the network. Running RPi 4B. Connected wired over ethernet to my network. I don't seem to be able to upload a photo here but What should the HA screen look like when booted and running properly?

humble mirage
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Well, there's no local UI

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If you had a keyboard and monitor connected when you powered on the Pi you'll have a local text console

placid sage
humble mirage
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They have to be connected when you apply power to the Pi

placid sage
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I can do that too

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I just don't know how to tell if the HA OS is running properly.

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It said something failed on startup but it disappeared so quickly I didn't see what it was

humble mirage
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It said something failed on startup but it disappeared so quickly I didn't see what it was
Where did you see that?

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If you mean the console then ... you have HAOS itself working

placid sage
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When starting it up

humble mirage
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HA itself is another container, and starts after HAOS boots

placid sage
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Yeah this is the problem. I don't understand any of these terms you're using. I feel like I have to be a network engineer to get this thing working and I'm about to just say fuck it and throw it in the garbage.

humble mirage
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HAOS ... the operating system

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HA, Home Assistant, the software that does the magic

placid sage
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LOL that's not the term I'm referring to

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"container" "console", etc.

humble mirage
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Container... Docker is used by HAOS, everything runs in a Container

placid sage
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What's Docker?

humble mirage
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Console, the physical keyboard and monitor connected to the computer

abstract hearthBOT
placid sage
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^ okay, I think that's my sign. Bye.

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This is stupid, I wish people would stop saying bullshit like "its easy!"

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Wasted my time and money trying to get this thing running.

humble mirage
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Well, nothing new is easy unless you already have all the required knowledge

placid sage
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There are things that are "easy" for a normal person to run.

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People who aren't software engineers

humble mirage
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Sure, you can buy one of those in a store, and you'll regret it

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Wink, Insteon, etc

placid sage
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I regret this more because I can't even get it to work

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At least those things will work

humble mirage
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Well, if you apply a little patience I'm sure people can help you

merry summit
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@placid sage I get this can be frustrating. A lot of effort has been put into making it easy.
How did you try to find HA on your network? Are you sure it is not showing up?

placid sage
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Patience isn't the issue, I just don't want to/need to dedicate the number of hours just to get this thing up and running, much less keeping it running or adding automations or whatever.

placid sage
merry summit
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And your installation, flashed to a SD I presume? Inserted into the RPi, plugged in ethernet and power? Then how long did you wait before typing in the address?

placid sage
merry summit
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Days?? 😄

placid sage
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Literally days

merry summit
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OK... I'd recommend try once more, from scratch. You'd expect to wait no more than 30 minutes after initially plugging in power to the PI before the initial setup screen becomes available

placid sage
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I got this screen that says "Home assistant" at the top in ASCII and green text "ha >". Is that what it's supposed to look like when booted?

merry summit
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Yeah, that is a good sign! 👍

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Does it say an IP adress a little further down the screen?

placid sage
merry summit
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OK. Further up, line 4 or something below the HomeAssistant headline there is a line starting with IPv4. What address does it have there?

placid sage
merry summit
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That is the problem then...

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It does not get an IP address from your router

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Check the connections

placid sage
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I've checked the connections, swapped around cables, removed the network switch, etc.

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Anything I need to do with the router?

merry summit
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No, I cannot imageine anything being wrong there... If connecting anything else on the same port you do get an IP address right?

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Have you restarted the Pi after checking the connections?

placid sage
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Restarted 24340809x

merry summit
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😄

placid sage
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I've been trying to figure this out for about a week

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The lights on the eth port and the switch are lit up

humble mirage
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Have you tried another network cable?

placid sage
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All my other devices show up on the network fine

merry summit
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Not 100% sure abouth this, but I beleive that HAOS needs to have internet connection the first time you power it up after flashing the SD card. At this point it downloads and installs HA for you automatically... Not sure what state the system is left in if it does not have a connection on the first boot.

humble mirage
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It should get an IP regardless, it needs that for the Internet connection

placid sage
humble mirage
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The lack of an IP points to a problem with the cable, the port (on either end), or the DHCP server on the network

placid sage
humble mirage
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Your router handles that typically

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It hands out IP addresses, DNS servers, and stuff like that

placid sage
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oh

humble mirage
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You'd know if it was broken

merry summit
humble mirage
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It's also worth flashing Raspberry Pi OS to the card, to rule out issues with the card and the cable

placid sage
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Any issues with Google WiFi router?

humble mirage
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Shouldn't be

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The switch/whatever you connected the Pi to, that's got other devices connected to it that are working?

placid sage
merry summit
placid sage
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well I think "should" has gone out the window here. It "should" connect to the network and be working but it's not so I'm just doing everything I can think to do.

humble mirage
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Did you try a known good network cable in a known good switch port?

placid sage
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yes.

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It's a brand new switch and I've moved all the cables around to all the different ports

placid sage
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Alright, I've dedicated enough of my life to this, I'm out. Thanks for the help.

merry summit
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Hmmm... Waiting for days for a computer to start properly but not willing to invest 1 hour to troubleshoot network issues... 🤷‍♂️

undone sentinel
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Question when i run
docker-compose pull
it pulls all the images in my docker-compose file HA,mosquitto,Z2M and my minecraft server.
so it pulls the latest/stable releace of the images.
it never pulls Z2M but when i run
docker-compose up -d"
it says:

misquitto - up to date
Z2M rebuilding```
even do there was no image update ?
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and i can run the docker-compose up -d it will always rebuild the Z2M container

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but it will never say the container is up to date

placid sage
humble mirage
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Well, until you identify the cause of the problem it's quite likely that the next thing you plug in there will also fail to work

placid sage
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It says "waiting for supervisor to startup..." does that mean something?

humble mirage
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Do you yet have an IP showing next to eth0?

placid sage
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no

humble mirage
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Then you still need to work out where your problem lies.

You've tried it in the same port and using the same cable as something else that worked? You've tried another device in that port, with that cable?

placid sage
humble mirage
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Then the most likely culprit is the Pi

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Do that

placid sage
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I called someone much smarter than me and got it working. Had to set the IP address manually.

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Why do I do this to myself?

brazen herald
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I'm guessing your network is messed up.

latent thistle
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why can't we use HAOS using WSL2 in windows 11?

crude inlet
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@latent thistle why can't you?

latent thistle
crude inlet
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You could mess with that

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It's not an official installation type, and you can see what issues have come up

dawn flame
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And they WILL come up..... 🙂

latent thistle
latent thistle
dawn flame
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Experimental is always good when problems arise. Sucks when it happens in a production system.

crude inlet
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Participate in the thread and try for yourself?

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Or reverse that

latent thistle
crude inlet
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Yeah thats the worst

latent thistle
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rest is history

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now compile esphome code on windows

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run adsb as add-ons

honest granite
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Hey guys! I just got the Home Assistant Bundle from Ameridroid and plugged it in, I can't seem to access port 8123, but I could access the observer at 4357 which shows everything as Connected, Supported and Healthy.

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Is there any trick I can try or should I reflash the eMMC?

crude inlet
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@honest granite connecting keyboard and monitor would be the first thing to try

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flashing is probably not needed

honest granite
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I ended up reflashing, seeing as this was a fresh install I ended up just going that route

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It's working now!

placid sage
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just installed home assistnat macOS, scaning servers but none is found - solution?

humble mirage
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Did you just install the app?

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Because you need to install Home Assistant itself

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@placid sage ☝️

placid sage
humble mirage
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Well, there's your problem then

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Now install HA

placid sage
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so what is the point of app / just better UI?

humble mirage
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It provides a bunch of sensors and stuff, but #ios_and_mac-archived could tell you about it better than I can

placid sage
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(Y)

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what is the best way to install it on mac?

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virtualbox?

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python?

humble mirage
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Virtual machine

placid sage
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any well known instruciton guidelines?

humble mirage
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You mean other than the official docs?

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The official docs

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They're linked from the channel topic, at the top of the window

placid sage
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yup

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there is no explanation of establishing virtual machine

humble mirage
placid sage
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ty

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do tuya curtain/shade switches work on home app through homeassistant?

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probably question for integration :/

opaque sinew
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hey @humble mirage is there any difference between all of the docker images out there? only one is officially supported, correct?

humble mirage
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Am I the only person that knows the answer to that question @opaque sinew

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Is that why you pinged me to demand my attention?

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I'm gonna guess from the silence that the answer was no @opaque sinew?

opaque sinew
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you seem to know most of the details here and give most of the best answers.

humble mirage
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You can - and should - just ask the question, rather than tagging people to demand attention

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Shockingly, there's a few thousand other folks here who can help you

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The answer to your question though is simple, only the Docker images HA creates are official and supported. Nothing else is

opaque sinew
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thank you for the eventual answer and public flogging.

humble mirage
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I tend to find it helps people remember to be politer in the future cz_wink

elder estuary
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what would be the easiest method to move the whole Homeassistant installation from one disk to another ?
Could i just install Homeassistant on the new disk and restore a full backup ?

humble mirage
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Yup

elder estuary
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😅 good news

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well thanks for the confirmation, now i know its worth the fiddeling

humble token
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has anyone managed to install HAOS on an original ASUS Tinker Board (not S)?
im having a hell of a time getting it to go past 'Preparing HA' screen

humble token
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nevermind, culprit was a shitty SD card

mystic ice
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anyone got any tips on troubleshooting why I can't get HA web ui to come up

humble mirage
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What does ha core logs show?

mystic ice
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i did an update at one point and its been causing problems since

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the logs don't let me scroll up, so I got a bunch of time outs for my cameras

humble mirage
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|more should work, but if there's logs then HA is at least doing something

mystic ice
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yea im not finding any problems with supervisor :/

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ok i found the problem

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my nginx reverse proxy is down :/

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and the day is saved, woo

dawn flame
humble mirage
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You did, though explicitly @ing somebody is clearly going to ping them... I mean, that's obvious? Or an I hoping for a bit much from a supposedly technical community?

dawn flame
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Many people getting into HA aren't very technical when the first get started. They come from other platforms like Vera where everything is pretty much GUI driven and simple. They learn as they go on the technical stuff. As for Discord, when I first started using it, I probably pinged you WAY more than you should have tolerated...

placid sage
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hi there, long time not seen. As everything was running smooth.
Hope the question is correct here:
Running Hasssio - and Im not able to update anymore.
Home Assistant Supervisor 8.1 needs to be updated to 8.2
HomeAssistant core core-2022.6.5 needs to be updated to core-2022.6.7

Somehow its triggering the update but reverts back
Where can I look up, whats going wrong? Guess its the supervisor log, but not sure how to set the log-level in the cli

brazen herald
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What are you trying to update? Try watching the logs as you install the update and see what it says

placid sage
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trying to update supervisor and core

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while updating

brazen herald
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You can only update one at a time

placid sage
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Im not updating both but it seems that something is happening after fetching and the system gets rolled back so I dont see anything additional in the logs

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What could this cause?

brazen herald
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It clearly causes the update to not install. It’s failing to download. Check your network

placid sage
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how can I check? if I go in cli I can ping

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is there a way to increase the log level to get more information?
I see ther is a global flag --log-level. But I dont know how to apply this in a command

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ha super --log-level debug
does not work

placid sage
abstract hearthBOT
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404 Error for docker usually is a result of one of these things:

  • The image tag you are trying to use does not exist (if this is the case you will see the word 'manifest' in the error)

  • There is not enough space left on the device to download the new container.

Command '~404' was invoked by: Tinkerer
dire hawk
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so ... my haos has frozen again ... while doing nothing :(
OOM, 5th time in a month... and with 4Gb of ram.

Is there a way to avoid this ? like memory limit on the different container ? or maybe not freeze but restart so user action isn't needed ?

I really like haos idea to let my mother safely deal with it daily ... but it's feel less stable that i imagined

grand pivot
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Bad SD card, bad power supply, overheating

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'Feeezing' is almost always a hardware problem

dire hawk
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That's not the cause of OOM

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it's surely because of a bad container or a memory leak

grand pivot
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Why?

dire hawk
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it's a nuc, no issue with power cooling, and the ssd check out

humble mirage
grand pivot
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Seems that you've just jumped to that conclusion

dire hawk
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could be, i only use official one but i haven't find a way to graph there memory usage over time.

Obviously everything is ok when i start it.

dire hawk
grand pivot
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Use the glances addon

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See what's using what

dire hawk
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i'll read about it

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cool addon, for now i only use 30% of ram, i'll configure influxdb to save it and have some info after it crash

grand pivot
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I only have a few addons to give me access to the HA VM/container, and I use less than 1GB

dire hawk
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I use 1.1G but influx take 600mb by himself, homeassistant only use 450mb

dire hawk
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and i have a winner !
addon_a0d7b954_vscode
280.4 CPU%
2.56G MEM
2.46G RSS

humble mirage
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It's apparently known for being a hog

dire hawk
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i could buy another 4GB stick, but 280%CPU ... nothing i can do there

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i'll use my usual vscode with sshfs addon. just need to figure out ssh on haos

grand pivot
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I would have thought that 4GB would be enough and it would take much less CPU, so I wonder if you have some rogue extensions

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but I'm happy with my native install + SSHFS

dire hawk
#

this is the result for only the vscode extention

#

and the install is what ... 1.5 month old

#

the only missing thing with sshfs is search

#

i was hopping to get that back

grand pivot
#

search for what?

dire hawk
#

the left side bar search in file

#

it doesn't download all file to search on them, nor do push a grep command over ssh

#

so i can't find all reference of an entity in all my automation file for exemple

grand pivot
#

ok. I just do a grep/find from the command line for such things, but I'm generally more of a command line guy

dire hawk
#

i got use to IDE very early in life, so i use shell for everything outside of "dev"

#

but i can manage :) better that than a freezing device

#

i will look for open bug on it tho, they look to push auto-restart a lot on the haos project, and i'm surprise the device just hanged

grand pivot
#

I just installed and started the VSCode addon and it looks managable:

addon_a0d7b954_vscode    running        0.3    223M
dire hawk
#

wait for it XD

grand pivot
#

currently using 13% CPU and 1.1GB of RAM for the whole shebang

#

<waiting...>

dire hawk
#

damn can't send a picture

abstract hearthBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

Command '~images' was invoked by: Tinkerer
dire hawk
grand pivot
#

I suppose there could be a leak. It's been quite a while since I used the addon

dire hawk
#

what look weird to me is the perfectely flat section

#

scratch that, it was swaping from here on out

wide wind
#

I do have tho a relatively slow ssd. And I think influxdb + grafana brought it to the limit

placid sage
#

Im still stucked with the update, but found an additional hint in the log now:
https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/furusavacu.yaml
unfortunately Im not sure what is going wrong.
After the failed update the system seems to be reverted.
Any Idea where I could look at to make the supervisor update happening?

fallen ruin
#

Hi all, hope this is the correct place to ask this… I have an install of Home Assistant in VirtualBox, I want to do some experimental changes, so am trying to make a clone that I can change without upsetting my working version, however when I create a clone, full clone, using the wizard, upon starting the clone I get a shell command appear. Any ideas as to what I could be doing wrong… thanks in advance

Solved - www.community.home-assistant.io/t/hassio-virtual-box-backups/168716/19
Scroll down to answer by Allistah dec 20

placid minnow
#

Hey, i'm trying to install this integration but it keeps failing, could someone shed a light?
https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/integration/
Error occurred loading configuration flow for integration integration: No module named 'homeassistant.components.integration.config_flow'

rigid orchid
placid minnow
rigid orchid
#

🤔 says that it has been part of HA since v0.87, weird that it wouldn't be there.

rapid iris
#

Hey guys. Wondering if hosting HA and Pihole+Unbound DNS on same Rpi 4 with 8 gigs would be good idea. Any thoughts? Thanks a lot.

cold nymph
dawn flame
#

None of that really requires a lot of CPU, so you should be good.

rapid iris
#

Got you, thanks!

faint solstice
#

Hello! Can i ask here? Trying to install supervised assistant into docker on orangepi 3 lts bullseye. Have landingpage container error: unable to exec run. Maybe it is /init limitation. Is it any way to solve this? Or installing superviser in docker to manage python environment assistant is a preferable possible way?

humble mirage
#

Is it Debian bullseye or simply based on Debian?

#

Because Supervised is only supported on Debian itself, as explained in the docs

faint solstice
#

debian bullseye from official orange pi page

brazen herald
#

Is that modified for orange pi? Because it wouldn't be supported then.

humble mirage
#

It's Debian based, not actual Debian

#

Hence, not supported

faint solstice
#

You mean i need to install clean debian image?

humble mirage
#

The only way Supervised is supported is if you're using actual Debian, from Debian's own repositories

#

Supervised also requires a lot from you, to ensure you manage and maintain the OS 100% correctly - fully complying with the requirements. It's all to easy to break your system.

#

IMO you're better off just using native Docker, no add-ons or Supervisor, or buying hardware that can run HAOS

faint solstice
#

Thx man. Got it. I have good working hass on venv, I will explore it first and maybe try to install clean debian later.. or buy hardware 🙂

torpid herald
#

I'm currently running in a virtualenv, how much of a pain is it to migrate to docker? Host is an x86 server running Ubuntu 20.04

humble mirage
#

Not a pain at all

#

TL/DR: Install HA Container, point it at your existing config folder

torpid herald
#

based on that description I'm gonna guess still running legacy zwave is a problem

#

and what about my zigbee db?

humble mirage
#

Well, legacy Z-Wave has been dead for a while

#

If you haven't already upgraded to Z-Wave JS, do it before you migrate

#

Zigbee should be fine

torpid herald
#

oh, so the "config" dir actually contains everything that would normally live under ~/.homeassistant, not just handwritten YAML

#

I think that's what was confusing me

humble mirage
#

Yes, that is your config dir

torpid herald
#

Yeah, I was thinking it would only contain configuration.yaml and anything you wanted to !include, not the logs and zigbee db and etc

mighty prism
#

I am using PI 3 B, I want to migrate to ssd. Is there any page I can refer the clone and boot from ssd

mighty prism
high token
#

either flash HAOS on the SSD and see if it boots then restore a backup

#

or keep the SD card for the OS and move HA to the SSD through the UI

buoyant hatch
#

I decided to try HA this evening and downloaded the VirtualBox image per the instructions for a Windows host installation. However, upon starting the VM, it goes into an endless boot loop with the option to select Slot A or Slot B. I followed the directions exactly, but can't seem to get it to work. Any known workarounds?

quartz wing
#

Do people generally use the new built in backup functionality, or other tooling that lets you do a wider backup (e.g. of other things on the host)

humble mirage
#

There's no built in restore option unless you're on HAOS (or Supervised), so I'd expect most Container/Core folks use something else

#

Or they haven't realised

quartz wing
#

The built in backup is super simple and I like it, but I have other containers with state that I want to keep safe too (mqtt, z2mqtt etc.)

#

I've not realized because I've never tried to restore

#

But it's just an archive that you can extract I would assume 🤷
Either way, it suits HA fine but for the rest I am wondering how I should do this. I used to not need to worry as the storage was all from a NAS but I've moved to local SSD now and so I need to work out how to go about something on the device to keep it safe

humble mirage
#

Duplicati/Urbackup/rsnapshot/rclone/etc etc etc

quartz wing
#

I am new to this on linux, I'll have a poke around

weary jolt
#

hello everyone, i am running into some issues starting home assistant on the RPi 3 b+, i have flashed the correct image, triple checked its the right one ,confirmed the files show up on the drive, still nothing happens when i turn on the RPi, it has a red light, nothing else. i tried two different sd cards to confirm it wasnt that. still nothing happens

#

any ideas on how to fix the issue is greatly appreciated

humble mirage
#

If you connect a keyboard and monitor do you see anything when you power it up?

weary jolt
#

i dont have a keyboard i can connect, but when i connect a monitor it shows a black screen, ill see if i can find a keyboard and give it a try

humble mirage
#

Black screen usually means either a power issue (but in that case the red LED should be blinking) or that the SD card isn't bootable

weary jolt
#

should the Card be in FAT or FAT32

humble mirage
#

Doesn't matter, when you write the image to it anything on it is erased

weary jolt
#

oh ok

#

ok i was able to find a keyboard to hook up through usb, and a mouse. same thing, solid red light. 2 green flashes then nothing.

crude inlet
#

@weary jolt this is absolutely a pi3?

weary jolt
#

it says pi model b+ v1.2, the guy who sent me it said it was a 3

humble mirage
#

That sounds more like original

crude inlet
#

Yeah that's probably not a 3

weary jolt
#

oh ok

#

so ill have to let him know

#

no wonder it doesnt work

humble mirage
#

It's a pretty paper weight

weary jolt
#

well that solves that issue. thank you

buoyant hatch
#

Getting stuck on Grub bootloader on a fresh Virtual box install. Pulled a fresh image from the setup instruction page. Any thoughts? Googled for an hour but can't seem to find anything that works.

heavy lantern
#

I have issues with my bluetooth dongle on my Odroid N2+. I see this log event in the HA Host log:
Bluetooth: hci0: unexpected event for opcode 0x0000

#

When I try to run bluetoothctl it's finding the bluetooth dongle, but he finds no devices.
I'm running HAOS

heavy lantern
#

What does the hci0 event meaning?

#

@placid sage I saw you had the same issues, did you already found the solution?

void wadi
#

ive had the HA under docker under a vm for a bit but i lose a lot of features and nice to haves so i was thinking on setting the HAOS on my proxmox. the vm was only for HA so... makes sense. Followed several guides to make it work on proxmox but i always get issues using the qcow image they provide. the issues: https://ibb.co/QrT9VMX ideas??

placid sage
#

Hi guys, this is my first time with trying to set up a home assistant and a first time trying a zigbee dongle, but i'm running into some issues that I cannot understand nor diagnose. Would here be the best place to ask? I've googled and searched the forum, but no luck

humble mirage
placid sage
dusty ore
#

is there a checksum file to validate the hassio downloads?

neat cobalt
#

I've been running HA as a UnRaid VM for a few months and its been working great, till today, I rebooted it and it stopped connecting to the network, any ideas what I can do, when running network info is says under interfaces that connected and enabled are both false 😒

upper sage
#

Hello. I recently installed homeassistant using docker but am having trouble getting my Zooz Zwave USB stick recognized. Is this a supported setup?

brazen herald
mighty prism
#

My home assistant instance on raspberry pi 3 hangs every three hours and I have to restart host. How to troubleshoot this isssue. I have enabled supervisor

unborn mantle
#

HA fonctionne bien depuis un mois. ... jusqu'à la coupure de la box 4 Orange.
J'étais en train de modifier un fichier yaml... L'adresse IP a changé = 192.168.1.xy (ald 192.168.1.xx), mais depuis ne j'arrive plus a démarré HA. Que dois-je faire ?

humble mirage
humble mirage
unborn mantle
#

😀 sorry

#

HA has been working well for more than month. ...until the routeur Box 4 Orange shut down yesterday.
I was editing a yaml file...
The rpi3_HA IP address switched to 192.168.1.30 (from 192.168.1.20), but since then I can't start HA anymore.

#

unable to connect to Home Assistant retrying....

#

On my router (livebox 4 / reseau / dhcp / Baux DHCP statiques) I found homeassistant 192.168.1.30 ;
then I added it as a static IP address.
After reboot rpi3, I am still unable to start HA via 192.168.1.30:8123

humble mirage
#

Did you install the SSH add-on?

unborn mantle
#

yes but I can't anymore open HA

#

I go through duck dns; is there something to change ?
or better can I go back and reuse the old ip = 192.168.1.20 ? How ?
192.168.1.20 is still available; the address has not yet been taken by another device or computer

#

what is the best option ?

humble mirage
#

You can't connect using the LAN IP and port at all?

#

Even using https://192.168.1.30:8123/?

#

(the https:// is important)

unborn mantle
#

sorry I cannot get the page ; using http:// I got message "not secured..."

upper sage
unborn mantle
#

https

#

what does mean /dev/ttyUSB0 ?

#

what does mean "You can't connect using the LAN IP and port at all?"

#

I have standard installation, not docker

upper sage
unborn mantle
#

Zigbee

#

I have a Zigbee gateway. Should I dsconnect it from rpi ?

humble mirage
#

Mangix's posts have nothing to do with your problem

#

If you look, you'll see he's using the Reply feature 😉

humble mirage
humble mirage
unborn mantle
#

OK i can do ; 1 minute please; what do you mean "power cycle the RPI ?"

humble mirage
#

Remove the power, wait 30 seconds, connect it again

upper sage
#

Don’t these SBCs come with a serial interface?

humble mirage
#

You're assuming that HAOS would use it

unborn mantle
humble mirage
#

Ok, when it boots you'll have a console, and one of the things it shows is the LAN IP

unborn mantle
#

I read IPV4 for eth0 192.168.1.30/24

#

HA OS 8.1

#

HA core 2022.6.5

humble mirage
#

Ok, so one of

https://192.168.1.30:8123
http://192.168.1.30:8123
``` should work
unborn mantle
#

HA url https:homeassistant.local:8123

#

neither woks

humble mirage
#

Does port 4357 work?

unborn mantle
#

what should I do

humble mirage
# 
http://192.168.1.30:4357
unborn mantle
#

ok connected sup^ported healthy

humble mirage
#

If you type

# 
ha core logs
#

what shows?

unborn mantle
#

8 orange colour lines then 8 white lines repeated

#

i can take a picture if you need ?

abstract hearthBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

Command '~images' was invoked by: Tinkerer
unborn mantle
#

it looks complicated..... how can I get a picture from the other sreen connected on RPI ???

#

I can write.... what would you find in the log ?

#

ended unfinished session from....

humble mirage
#

Take a photo with your phone?

unborn mantle
#

I can do it

#

how can I send it to you ?copy paste does'nt work ?

humble mirage
#

You should remove that 😉

unborn mantle
#

what should i remove ?

humble mirage
#

You know - the bit that the error message you shared told you to remove?

unborn mantle
#

how works imgur ?

humble mirage
#

You upload images to it, and share the resulting URL

#

Or use any other image hosting site you know how to use

unborn mantle
#

the 4 last lines can help you to diagnose ?

humble mirage
#

It gives part of the problem

unborn mantle
#

the others 3 lines are telling thatcustom integration kocal tuya has not been tested ; this component could might cause stabilty problem

#

is the picture ok ? do you need otherthing ?

humble mirage
#

Did you type ha core log to see that?

unborn mantle
#

yes

humble mirage
#

Can you get a picture that doesn't have text cut off at the bottom?

#

Also, if you type

login
ping 192.168.1.1

does that ping your router (I'm assuming your router is .1 - change the IP if it's not)

unborn mantle
#

router is 192.168.1.1

#

ping 192.168.1.1 is alive

humble mirage
#

Well, that's good, I'd follow the advice that's on the screen

unborn mantle
#

👍

frosty sandal
#

How do I find what is taking up space? I just got an alert that I have less than 1GB space. I have HA running in VM with a 60GB hard drive. Not sure how to find what is taking up space and to clear it up. I only have 2 back ups one partial and one full. The full is only 423.6 MB

brazen herald
final gale
#

hi there. ive installed home assistant supervised on ubuntu 2110 and am unable to access the webui (i am using the correct IP and have set a static ip in the dhcp settings of adfguard) dont iknow why it wont load. any iodea?

brazen herald
#

That's not a supported install. Supervised is only supported on stock Debian

crude inlet
#

@frosty sandal try ha su repair in the ssh addon terminal

frosty sandal
unborn mantle
humble mirage
#

Or are you still ignore that?

unborn mantle
#

Excuse me, At this time I did not try anything. I am totaly unable to make anything. I cannot open HA, and I cannot read what is in HA using code. I really nead your help

crude inlet
#

@unborn mantle https://192.168.1.30:8123 in your browser

odd sail
#

Hi all, is there a way to setup HA with no internet? I have a RPI and a router. Do I need to do anything to the router for this to work?

#

This is going to a location with no internet

crude inlet
#

not using the HA OS installation method

odd sail
#

What other way would I need to do this?

grand pivot
#

you can use HA without Internet access, you just can't install/set it up without it. So, install/setup HA with net access and then move it

humble mirage
#

If you want to add a new integration you'll almost certainly need working Internet access too

unborn mantle
humble mirage
#

The first one, click through the warning

#

It's been working all along, and you didn't tell us

unborn mantle
#

I told you but I could not send pictures, sorry

humble mirage
#

You didn't say that it was working and you were getting a warning

#

That's the universal warning you get when the URL and the certificate don't match

#

All you had to do was click the button

unborn mantle
#

excuse me, I must leave, bye

odd sail
#

or any documentation you can point me to for me to read into

humble mirage
#

So that the Python packages can be downloaded and installed

#

Also, if you're using any install that uses Docker, to download the Docker images

#

It'll run fine without Internet (except for any integrations that use a cloud service), but any install or update will need it again

grand pivot
#

It doesn't make sense to package and distribute all the packages that HA depends on, so they're installed from PyPI

#

Or wheels

humble mirage
#

There's about 840 packages that a native install of HA could use, and countless more that any custom component could add

bleak path
#

my Home Assistant VM locked up around 2:16 PM today, I forced it down and booted back up
The logs I can find in the gui and from ha su logs & ha core logs seem to be from boot, is there a place I can grab lastboot? Best I've found is a youtube video that might be saying "Not with the original log config"

crude inlet
#

@bleak path the home-assistant.log.1 file in your config directory is from the previous run of HA

bleak path
#

thanks! nothing conclusive in that

#

it has to have something to do with something I turn on when on vacation, it dies every single time I'm on vacation

unborn mantle
humble mirage
#

Now you can fix your port forwarding, and ensure that the DHCP lease never changes again

unborn mantle
#

But it is not clean as you can see. What do I have to finalize now ?

humble mirage
#
  1. Set a fixed DHCP lease so the IP never changes again
  2. Update the port forward in your router so you can use the hostname again
unborn mantle
#

It was stillconfigurated for 1

#

Could you explain more for 2 ?

humble mirage
#

On your router, update the port forwarding to use the new IP

unborn mantle
#

do I have to reboot my compter ?

humble mirage
#

I've no idea what that picture is of

#

I can't read your mind

#

Is that for DHCP, or port forwarding?

unborn mantle
#

it is for DHCP static IP,. now I try for forwarding...

#

I found the page

#

should I reboot the computer ?

#

with this address I can open HA but it indicated "not securised https"

#

Sorry I have to leave. Night gives advice ! THANK YOU VERY MUCH

high token
glass ruin
#

welp

#

poking at the bear again

#

stuck at 272.702986 systemd[1]: systemd-jouranld.service: State 'stop-watchdog' timed out. Killing.

wide wind
#

Does the proxmox image available in the alternate download section includes HAOS, or its a different version? Weighting how much time I would need to move over

grand pivot
#

All the images are HA OS

wide wind
#

Ah, nice. Going to move over quickly then

light pine
#

I have a bit of a headache right now. Recently made some changes to my home network (new ISP and modem, same router). But I cant for the life of me connect to the Raspberry Pi running HA. After doing a fresh install, everything is fine again, but if I restore my backup I cant connect again.

#

I've been digging through the backup folders but I dont see anything that would give me issues since switching ISP, Duck DNS should only be an issue for external

crude inlet
#

@light pine when you configure duckdns you are enabling SSL for local and remote access

#

You restored that config, so you can only reach using https

#

Same as before

#

You'll see a warning. You continue past it

light pine
#

Oh god, I bet you are right

#

Nah, unfortunately that wasnt the trick

#

still getting a "refused to connect error"

#

good thought tho, its definetly something that I configured that isnt playing nice on the new network. The new IP is probably different than what it used to be, but I cant think of anything that would mind

#

Maybe if I clear out the /ssl folder containing the keys for DuckDNS?

crude inlet
#

@light pine what is the http: config?

light pine
#

wheres that located in the directory?

#

i have the tar from my backup and I can navigate through it, but im unfamiliar with that config

#

unless you mean in the main configuration.yaml:

grand pivot
#

Remove the base_url line

light pine
#

Would that affect me accessing it internally?

crude inlet
#

It hasn't been valid for ages

grand pivot
#

It was deprecated long ago

light pine
#

Huh, good to know

crude inlet
#

And yes, with that config you are forcing ssl

light pine
#

I mean, present situation isnt proving my case, but I would have sworn I had no issues connecting before on my local network

#

lemme give it a shot tho

crude inlet
#

What is the IP address currently?

light pine
#

internally its something along the lines of 192.168.1.128

#

just redid the install, so not sure what the DHCP will call it this time when I boot it up

crude inlet
#

It typically tries to assign the same IP address for recent devices

light pine
#

alright, uploading the modified backup now

#

hmm, getting an upload failed - 400 bad request

#

lemme make sure I recompressed everything correctly...

crude inlet
#

How are you uploading it

light pine
#

through the first startup onboarding splash screen

#

gives you the option to recover from backup

#

ahh, there it goes

#

I must have just recompiled it wrong

#

ugh, still no go. As soon as I restored it from backup, even with that line deleted from configuration.yaml, the GUI drops of the network as soon as it goes through

crude inlet
#

It would do that normally

#

And then return

light pine
#

Yeah, its the latter part thats the issue 😐

crude inlet
#

What address are you using to reach it?

#

after it drops off

light pine
#

I'm trying both the HA.local as well as the IP address directly

crude inlet
#

Specifically

light pine
#

both with HTTP and HTTPS

#

one sec

crude inlet
#

Did you only remove the base_url line?

light pine
#

i removed the entire entry:

crude inlet
#

Ok

light pine
#

took out http entirely

crude inlet
#

And 192.168.1.128:4357 ?

light pine
#

havent tried that port, no

crude inlet
#

What happens with that one

light pine
#

I'll give that shot in a sec here

#

I started from scratch on the backup to pull out the http: reference

#

figured I would retry just to make sure I didnt mess something up putting the tar back together

#

Also, on that subject, whats the difference between a full and partial backup?

#

what would I lose if I did a partial backup restore?

#

connecting at 4357 gave me this:

#

Supervisor: connected

#

suported: supported

#

healthy: healthy

crude inlet
#

Ok. So that confirms the IP

#

If you choose partial, you'll see all the parts as selectable

#

And it should be pretty obvious at that point

light pine
#

hmm, I may have to start picking and choosing to get the backup to restore

crude inlet
#

So selecting all of them would be equivalent to a full restore

zenith minnow
#

hello, i'm running home assistant OS on raspberry pi 4 for few monthes and experienced a freezing issue aroud each week. an electric switch on/off resolves the issue but after it has started I can't find any clue of what happenned? I first believed it was temperature issue but now my raspberry has a cooling case and it is still happenning. any advice on how I could analyze what is happenning?

zenith minnow
wide wind
#

I don't run on pi, as I've heard too many stories of corrupted SD cards. But I would say rule of thumb would be to attach an ssd on your pi, and run from there. SD cards are not supposed to be used with the kind of workload an os has. Eventually they will corrupt and die

odd imp
#

Nothing wrong with running HA on a Pi 3/4. Just make sure you deploy an SSD instead of an SD card!

zenith minnow
#

oh! so it's a storage issue. believe running with an SD card wasn't an issue. Is it because it doesn't support too many write/read? let's have a look how much is an ssd 😉

last abyss
#

Is there a preferred or recommended install? Core or VM? I am running unraid and trying to decide between core or a VM.

crude inlet
#

@last abyss it's easy to spin up both on unraid and compare

#

Install homeassistant from the app store in unraid and check it out. That would be core

bleak pebble
#

I mangaged to break my installation, is there anyone that has the structure of statistics_short_term for mariadb that i can use to recreate that table? Or perhaps knows of a way to make homeassistant recreate that table

unborn mantle
#

WHat should I do to remove the RED https and the indication "Not secured" ?

humble mirage
#

Use the hostname in the SSL certificate

unborn mantle
#

when I click on the button Not securised, I see Certificat not valid.

storm sluice
#

it should give a reason as to why

humble mirage
#

It does

#

The certificate isn't valid... because you're not using the hostname in the certificate to connect

#

Don't use the IP

unborn mantle
#

After when I click on certificat I read :
Delivered to hassioMyDomain.duvkdns.org
Delivered by R3
Valide from 12/06/2022 to 10/09/2022

humble mirage
#

hassioMyDomain.duvkdns.org is what you should be using to connect with

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(or the real domain there)

unborn mantle
storm sluice
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use that then

humble mirage
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You have to use the hostname in the certificate to avoid that error

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Of course, this requires that you've fixed the port forwarding

unborn mantle
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I belive having made the port forwarding in the router. How to be sure ? How is it possible to check this

humble mirage
unborn mantle
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Probably the forwarding port does'n work; because I tested 4 options but no-one is working

high token
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this is the one then https://hassiodomain.duckdns.org:8123/

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but you have to double check you have indeed port forwarded the new internal IP since you said that changed

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and that your HA external IP is correct

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also check that duckdns is still pointing to your external WAN IP (which should be the case fi the duckdns addon is running)

unborn mantle
#

ok I opend the link that you send me ; is this secured ?

high token
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huh?

unborn mantle
high token
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check if port 8123 is open

unborn mantle
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Port 8123 is closed on 192.168.01.30

high token
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no

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you need to leave the external IP

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don't put there you internal IP!

unborn mantle
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sorry I don't understand what you mean ; I don't know what is internal/external IP, sorry

high token
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From what you are saying I am assuming this is what you did

Port 8123 is closed on 192.168.01.30

unborn mantle
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yes you tell me to check

high token
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you are checking if the port forwarding is working. Port forwarding allows for traffic to go through a port from the outside (the internet) into a local IP (in this case your HA)

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you don't care about that internal IP here

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you want to check if the port from the outside is open

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therefore you need the IP that was prefilled when you opened that link

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Use current IP

unborn mantle
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I asked you if it is secured : yes or no ? could I get hacked ?

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I am really uncomfortable with IP

high token
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the fact you don't know and you are opening up a port to the outside for HA is more of a problem

humble mirage
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If you're worried, don't set up remote access and remove SSL from HA

unborn mantle
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Ok per haps it was still opend. But I never got the "Not secured" warning and RED mention beforethe shutdown of the router.Now could you pleas e tell me what to do to secure HA and my network.

humble mirage
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You get that warning because you're using the IP

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As I've said countless times

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I'll leave somebody else to help you as you're not listening to me at all

high token
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You must have been using the duckdns domain before. There is no other explanation. You are just only now seeing the warning because you are using the IP

humble mirage
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They were

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The LAN IP changed, and know they're lost at sea

high token
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If you want to secure your network and HA, especially when you don't understand how it works or what it is you are doing then don't use port forwarding, use Home Assistant Cloud or another option that doesn't open up any ports and enable IP banning if too many failed attempts occur

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securing is always relative to what you do to avoid it

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putting your IP to that website to see if the port is open is not going to result to your being hacked

unborn mantle
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OK thanks for your comments

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I feel really uncomfortable with IPs ports ; as said before I dont understand all this. Have you a link or a document that explains all this clearly, because I tried several tims to understand, but it's difficult ...

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Which scenario would you suggest ? Step 1 =...; Step 2=...

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I must leave you ... thanks for today

high token
fringe girder
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Hey guys, been trying to get HA setup for the last month and have been having various issues, I was able to get it working at one time but had to wipe it due to not being able to get a snapshot reverted, the current issue I am having is that I can't get it to pull an ip, im running it in a vm on wmware. On startup the wait for kernel time sync fails as well

humble mirage
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Time sync is failing because it's not getting an IP

high token
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Maybe you are trying to bridge the network over wifi?

fringe girder
#

It is connected over ethernet, the computer itself is pulling an ip and is working normally, just inside the vm it won't, I know there was a command I ran when I had the working version but I dont remember it

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I do also have it bridged in vmware

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And when I tried to get ipv4 set to auto it gave me the supervisor/network/update deadline exceeded

high token
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ipv4 is auto by default. What do you mean?

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deadline exceeded is almost always an issue with your DNS

fringe girder
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It is saying disabled on it im pretty sure, I will have to take a look at it in a bit, I have tried to update the dns record before but no luck

bleak pebble
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I mangaged to break my installation, is there anyone that has the structure of statistics_short_term for mariadb that i can use to recreate that table? Or perhaps knows of a way to make homeassistant recreate the statistics_short_term table?

golden walrus
#

Hi all, i just installed a fresh image on an RPi 3 B+. All i've done is set my username/pass and set my location. The system is "unhealthy" so i can't install anything. Any ideas on what's going on here?

placid mortar
jagged dock
#

Hi all, the last two mornings I've woken up to a notification from HA that my backups are unhealthy (automation I've got) - however the backups have run just something in HA is crashing: https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/kepecegefo.apache

What's odd is that the UI is still working but I simply cannot restart the host without physically power cycling it. I have SSH installed and even trying to restart core, supervisor or even sudo reboot gives me a message: Got unexpected response from the API: System is not ready with state: shutdown

After a power cycle, all is good again. Any clues?

Perhaps related, both mornigns I've noticed a single entry like this Filtered a request with a potential harmful query string: ///remote/fgt_lang?lang=/../../../..//////////dev / in the log. I have external access configured using letsencrypt and duckDNS, not using NGINX, using a NAT loopback so internal certificates are valid via HTTPS

jagged dock
stiff sequoia
#

Hi Everyone! I am a noob trying to install HAss OS on a HP Thin Client. I've been able to do so with no issues except, if I disconnect the monitor (because I want to run it headless), if I reboot, I get that annoying loud beeping sound because it's looking for the monitor. Everywhere I have looked, all the guides I have found, all talk about HAss OS being installed on top of Linux, or VM, etc.

But with HAss OS, it IS the operating system. Is there a link someone can provide to point me in the direction on how I can boot this thin client up and run it headless?? I don't want to install linux and then run this in docker. Isn't that just a waste of resources when you can run the OS directly?

Sorry if this is a stupid question. I really did search and try to find out how to do it before coming here, so any help would be very grateful! TY!

crude inlet
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@stiff sequoia wouldn't that be a BIOS setting?

stiff sequoia
# crude inlet <@917917170292371468> wouldn't that be a BIOS setting?

I don't think so. I went into the bios and didn't see anything that would hint at that being the way to do it. I will reboot now and double check. Articles I found, all talk about virtual keyboards/monitors etc.. but again, its typically being used in docker or on top of a linux distro - bridging them.. but that won't work when the OS itself is HAss.

crude inlet
#

There nothing included in HA OS to make your HP beep

stiff sequoia
stiff sequoia
crude inlet
#

Not related to the beep

stiff sequoia
#

k

stiff sequoia
crude inlet
#

HA OS is a Linux based OS. It includes docker. HA is running in a container and all other software added is run in containers.

stiff sequoia
# crude inlet Not related to the beep

Under Advanced, Device Options, Integrated Graphics was set to Auto. When I toggle that, there is only 1 option: Force. This opens a line item below that which says UMA Frame Buffer Size 512M.

When I leave that set to "Force" and reboot, it doesn't beep at me. The reason I never changed it before was because I thought Auto should still allow it to boot... but apparently not.

stiff sequoia
crude inlet
#

If there's an addon for it. Addons are docker containers

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But HA as media server or HA as your router are things I would avoid myself

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It's not the purpose

stiff sequoia
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Yeah, this machine probably couldn't handle it anyway! LOL... I have a separate Dell machine running Emby so I will take your advice and not bother

crude inlet
#

There's an emby integration, so HA can be aware of your emby server

stiff sequoia
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Thank you for your help! And thanks for not getting annoy with my problem. I wasn't thinking in the right manner as to where the problem was truly at.

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I'm only installing this because my friend wanted to learn how to use it. Kinda like the blind leading the blind.. LOL.... but I have knowledge of Linux whereas he doesn't. And I also use NO-IP for my DNS, so my friends can access my Emby server. So having this installed, I can figure it out and then explain or show my friend what he needs to do

unborn mantle
valid lion
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but I think a did a mistake related to the PATH /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config ... instead of sth. like /srv:/config I typed /:/config

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So could you help to find my HA files and the configs?

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I am accessing via ssh and in / there is no config or home-assisant folder

cyan hamlet
#

I had a VirtualBox installation of home assistant but I am wanting to switch over to VMware workstation due to bugs with updating which I heard isn’t an issue with VMware. It boots up and starts but I am unable to reach home assistant via the link. I’ve tried disabling all the virtual network drivers except the active one but no dice

fringe girder
#

Are we not able to post pictures in this chat?

abstract hearthBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

Command '~images' was invoked by: Tinkerer
fringe girder
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Ah

humble mirage
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Sadly if image posting is allowed people tend to flood the channel with irrelevant crap

fringe girder
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Understandable

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I added the link to my last message

humble mirage
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Looks like your host isn't getting an IP address, which points to a networking issue

fringe girder
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So the computer its running on does have networking, I am running it on a vm in windows, I made sure to have bridged networking on as well

humble mirage
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I'd double check the settings in the VM

fringe girder
humble mirage
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Check the Windows settings to see what interface(s) you've bridged it to

fringe girder
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It doesnt show any bridges on the settings, just shows ethernet and the 3 vmware network adapters

humble mirage
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The Windows network interfaces, you can pick which are used by the VMWare bridge (from memory) - check to see which it's enabled on

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Maybe you've got it enabled on physical interfaces that you don't want it to be using

fringe girder
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Sorry for all the screenshots, I just know its better to show stuff for me then explain it as sometimes I dont do so good with it https://imgur.com/a/Y0ClUwz

humble mirage
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Now visit the properties of that network interface...

fringe girder
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The ethernet one right or which one

humble mirage
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Yes, that one

fringe girder
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Ok, what am I looking at in there

humble mirage
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To see if the VMWare bridge is enabled for it

fringe girder
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VMWare Bridge Protocol is checked

placid sage
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Hello, HA is unreachable since 21:30

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thwn URL is entered it starts to load but nothing happens

humble mirage
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Can you ping the IP?

placid sage
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nothing was changed except reseting the wifi

slow galleon
#

Forgive me if this is not the correct room. I have installed home assistant on my virtual machine yesterday. I logged in to the observer room everything was fine. Then my power went off for 2 seconds. My pc restarted and I restarted the virtual machine. Now I can no longer see the ipv4 address and I can't connect to home assistant. Can someone please help.

humble mirage
placid sage
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local installed on mac

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no route to host / host is down - so says terminal

humble mirage
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How did you install it? In a VM, with pip, or something else?

slow galleon
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Tinkered when your done with np_HA do you think you can help with my issue

humble mirage
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Does the HA console show the IP?

placid sage
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VM

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it was turned off

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kinda make sense not being able to drive around without starting the engine 😄

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thanks

pliant sapphire
#

Question - I'm currently running HA Supervised on a RPi4 running Debian. I have a 256GB SSD that I would like to move the data disk to (while continuing to boot off the SD card). However, it seems that the "move datadisk" option (either via UI or CLI) is only supported in HAOS (and not Supervised installation). Wondering if there's any alternative ways to accomplish this or if anyone has any suggestions? This is the only similar post that I've found, but didn't really have a definitive answer: #330944238910963714 message

slow galleon
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I think I just need to set my vitural box to the home assistant ip address 192.168.1.××/24. The problem is I don't know how...

humble mirage
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That should be handled entirely by DHCP

slow galleon
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This may be a dumb question... DHCP on PC or in virtual box

humble mirage
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On your router, hopefully

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VBox should be connected to your wired network via VBox's bridged networking

slow galleon
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Oh no I had it oringallly setup via wifi...

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So I guess I need to start all over then.. will I be able to upload my back when I restart or will I need to setup home assistant all over since my ip adress and Mac address will change

humble mirage
#

Why not just bridge it with the wired network?

slow galleon
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Ok switch to wired network then set static ip addresses?

humble mirage
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Just switch to wired, and set a static DHCP lease in your router

slow galleon
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Ok thank you

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I had to take a walk if this work when I get back I will cashap you payment

humble mirage
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I don't help here for the money 😉

high token
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you can sent him a bottle of scotch though

humble mirage
#

I'll never turn down a bottle of the good stuff

slow galleon
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Well I don't know what the good stuff cost but i really want HA working from all the talks I here and if I can get it going its worth paying

grand pivot
#

I like the "walk away and hope it solves itself" part

last ermine
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I installed Homeassistant in kvm, but i cant access the web ui. how can i check the ha IP through the homeassistant console, or any other tips?

slow galleon
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Lol.. I just realized I do not have enough computer skills to do this lol

last ermine
random beacon
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Hi, just wondering if someone could help me> im no wizz on a computer but trying to install home assistant on Rasperry Pi4, done the flashing to SD booting up loaded everything but then its sat on a screen "HOME ASSISTANT" Home assistant URL http://homeassistant.local:8123 Observer URL http://homeassistant.local:4357

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i cant access this via them address or ip address, does my router need ports forwarding?

crude inlet
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Do you see the ipv4 address on that same screen?

random beacon
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says IPv4 address for cth0 : thats it

crude inlet
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That's the problem

random beacon
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says the same for ulan:

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sorry ulan0:

crude inlet
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Did you plug in Ethernet before powering it on?

random beacon
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yeah i did

crude inlet
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And what is it connected to? Router?

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Switch?

random beacon
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yup direct to my router, well via a gigabit switch

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its a google router

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ive pulled the ethernet out, put it directly into my laptop, disbaled my wifi and i have internet access no problem

heavy cypress
#

Hi! I just installed home assistant on my Synology NAS via Docker. Is there any way to get add-ons?

humble mirage
#

Sure, use a virtual machine to install HAOS

heavy cypress
humble mirage
#

Well, HAOS would be the installation on the NAS

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Your install type (I'm guessing Docker, aka Container) doesn't support add-ons

heavy cypress
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Docker yeah, Okey, so basicly reinstall home assistant on to a virtual machine on my NAS

safe terrace
#

Which add-ons are you interested in?

humble mirage
#

Add-ons are just Docker images modified for the Supervisor, so the odds are there's nothing you want that's not already available to you

safe terrace
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Using add-ons is easier, but if you are comfortable using docker it's probably more efficient to use docker containers

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In addition to consuming more fixed resources there are other limitations on synology

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Like you can't use hardware acceleration for video decoding

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*Other limitations when using a VM

heavy cypress
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Thanks guys! Im really new to this, so add-ons seem much easier, but If I were to go with the other solution, does that mean I have to find the add-on Im interested in and install it as a separate "dock" in docker?

humble mirage
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You'd find the relevant Docker image, yes, not the add-on though

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Add-ons only work with the Supervisor, you can't run them without it

heavy cypress
#

Is it easy to get home assistant to recognize the different docker images?

abstract hearthBOT
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#integrations-archived integrate Home Assistant with devices or services, or provide functionality within Home Assistant.

#add-ons-archived provide additional software or services, which an integration could possibility integrate with. Add-ons are for Home Assistant OS and Supervised only, other install methods can install software other ways.

Command '~integration' was invoked by: Tinkerer
humble mirage
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Yes, configure the relevant integration

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If you want to add it to the sidebar, as you can do with add-ons, there's both integrations and cards that can handle that

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(the sidebar is purely a visual thing, stuff there isn't necessarily part of HA)

heavy cypress
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Thank you so much!

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I think its maybe easier to run home assistant of a virtual machine in my NAS...

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2 ghz CPU and 4GB of ram would be enough right?

dawn flame
heavy cypress
dawn flame
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First, quit calling them "add-ons". What are you wanting to install?

humble mirage
#

Add-ons are just software in a container, there's no magic

heavy cypress
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Node Red, Some Tesla integration, Sector Alarm package ETC

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stuff you find on hacs

dawn flame
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If it's on HACS, then it will appear an all installations of HA.

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Those aren't "add-ons" either...

safe terrace
safe terrace
heavy cypress
humble mirage
#

Sure you do

#

Step #1 - read the documentation for HACS and install it

abstract hearthBOT
#

Home Assistant Community Store is the successor to the old Custom Updater, and can do so much more - you should check it out. They even have a Discord server for issues with HACS itself.

Command '~hacs' was invoked by: Tinkerer
humble mirage
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(part of the HACS docs make it very clear there's no add-ons in HACS)

heavy cypress
frosty sandal
#

How can I figure out what is taking up all my space? I am using a 60GB VM and it system > storage says 92.3% used. I need to understand what is taking up all my space so that I can remove it and prevent it from getting worse.

valid lion
#

Hi. I am currently starting to create my Home Assistant and I have installed it via docker. Could someone tell me how I can find the filesystem of the HA container? If I am using a Terminal, I won't find any folder named like "Home-assistant" or "config"???

azure cypress
#

I updated from 2021.8.0 to 2022.6.7 last night, and I think I've been stuck in some reboot loops since. Every 10min or so I get the notification:

Database upgrade in progress
System performance will temporarily degrade during the database upgrade. Do not power down or restart the system until the upgrade completes. Integrations that read the database, such as logbook and history, may return inconsistent results until the upgrade completes.

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then after maybe an hour, everything becomes unresponsive and I have to pull the power on the pi

true ridge
#

I'm running Homeassistant on an RPI4, boot from SD (using the default image) and have my data partition moved to an SSD.

The SD Card seems to be corrupt now (SquashFS error while booting.)

a) as far as i can tell, HassOS is using RAUC - is there any way to force booting from the other slot? (or it might be doing so, but both slots are corrupt...)

b) If i simply flash a new home assistant SD, and boot up the PI - it should pick up the "hassos-data" partition on USB automatically?

true ridge
valid lion
#

As I am already raspotify running on my PI I do not have HA OS

valid lion
true ridge
valid lion
true ridge
#

if so, you need to specify the "data/config" volume yourself

-v /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config \

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in the docker launch line

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-v is a "docker volume mount".

It will take a HOSTPATH and CONTAINERPATH , both seperated by a colon (":") . You need to maintain the "HostPath" (this is the directory on your system), and docker will forward that into the container. (namespaced bind-mount from technical side)

valid lion
#

yes, I accidently used the root and now I figured out to see the files via docker exec <containerID> ls

true ridge
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if you did use the root, i'd advise to do "docker stop CONTAINERID" and start it again with the correct volume mount

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if you already did lots of configuration you don't want to loose, you'll need to gather those ifles by hand and put it into the config directory tree you want to use

valid lion
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No I didnt do anything. So thanks for that advise. I am still learning some basics 😉

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So what would be your advise how to edit the config files ... Is there any recommended tool?

humble mirage
#

nano, vim, etc

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If you prefer a UI then there's Visual Studio code over SSH

valid lion
#

Both sounds good. I used nano already, but how do I use the nano command in combination with docker?

humble mirage
#

Well, the software runs in Docker, your config folder is on the host

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So, sudo nano /path/to/configuration.yaml

valid lion
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Sorry for my stupid questions 😦 But I just find the configuration.yaml if I used docker exec <containerID> ls

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If I list the content of my PI dont find it ???

safe terrace
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You should start over and mount a folder from your pi to /config on the container

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That way you can access the folder from the host and the container too

humble mirage
#

If you ignored the docs and didn't map /config you missed something important 😉

safe terrace
#

If you want to get a shell on the container you can use

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docker exec -it <name of container> /bin/bash

valid lion
#

ah ok. So /:/config didn't mount it on my PI?

safe terrace
#

And that will open up a shell in the container. But those files won't be on the host, so whenever you update or reset the container, all your changes will vanish

true ridge
humble mirage
true ridge
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(and you WILL break everything)

humble mirage
#

Needless to say, you really shouldn't have used /

valid lion
#

Yeah, that wasn't done by purpose 😉

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And as I said. I am learning and I cannot break anything 😄

true ridge
true ridge
# valid lion Yeah, that wasn't done by purpose 😉

So - "docker container stop ID" and "docker container rm ID" to remove the "docker run" invocation. (the "container instance")

after that, you can recreate a container instance of homeassistant with the correct docker run line

humble mirage
#

Or, better, use a Compose file

true ridge
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(ID is the name or the hash when you did docker container ls)

valid lion
#

Ok thanks for your suppport. really appreciate that 🙂 You told me some basics I couldn't figure out so far

true ridge
valid lion
#

So I dont want to disturb this chat anymore 🙂 I am confident to fix it

valid lion
#

As I said ... really appreciate your help 👍

true ridge
dawn flame
azure cypress
#

Damn, too late. Already going through reinstallation. But thank you for the response

dawn flame
#

As long as you kept your configuration folder intact, you haven't lost anything by re-installing. You will most likely still have to delete the db file though as it's in the configuration folder. I've had to do it a few times over the years, probably due to being WAY out of being current....

azure cypress
#

In the process of a full wipe / reinstall. (I'm only running from and SD card on a rpi3), then i'll grab my backups from google drive once its online again

dawn flame
#

Hopefully your backup is good.....

azure cypress
#

I just need to re-remember how to get it back onto my wifi network (yeah, I know, wifi, but its worked for a few years now)

dawn flame
#

If WiFi is all you got, it's better than nothing. Not ideal by any means though...

azure cypress
#

Oh, I know. But it works =]

dawn flame
#

I started out running on a RPi. After a while I figured out I could move it to my Synology NAS. Ran it there for quite a while before I started to get enough stuff going that I decided to move it to it's own machine again. Now I'm running it (and quite a bit more) on a small form factor Lenovo i5 that's about the size of an external HDD...

azure cypress
#

What do you think the breaking point for the pi was? I live in a relatively small apartment and am only connected to like less than a dozen bulbs, a handful of switches and 2 outlets.

dawn flame
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The SD card.... 🙂

dawn flame
#

Seriously, the RPi was quite capable of keeping up (although the one I was using probably couldn't keep up now as I believe it was a 2).

hard crow
dawn flame
#

I moved it to docker on a dedicated docker host machine. Still do backups to the NAS. I went to a dedicated machine to keep the NAS for it's intended purpose. I didn't want to risk bogging down the media server down with anything. I'm running a bit more than just HA....

placid sage
#

I'm having issues getting the current version of Home Assistant OS on a Raspberry Pi 4.

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I'm using the latest image; written it to an SD card and to an SSD with Balena Etcher, and Raspberry Pi Imager.

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It's stuck in the Preparing Home Assistant stage.

storm sluice
#

how long did you wait?

placid sage
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I've waited several hours on a a couple of different attempts.

storm sluice
#

and refreshing the page does nothing?

#

guess you can check the logs on the host console to see whats happaneing

placid sage
#

I don't have a monitor and keyboard available right now.

#

Would I be able to access it via SSH or not?

storm sluice
placid sage
#

Okay. I'll do that.

plush fog
#

sd card sounds fucked mate

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or you could bang the ssd/sd card in another machine and write the image?

cyan hamlet
visual flicker
#

Hey I run Supervisor 2022.05.3 and Core 2022.6.7 in a RPI3. It seems like i'm loosing the supervisor ones in a while, e.g. I cannot see the Add-ons or read the supervisor logs in the WebUI. What can I do to debug it?

random beacon
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hI

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Wondering if anyone could help me, ive just installed Home Assistant on Rasperry PI4, logged in and installed the add on for eWelink/sonoff - its up and running i can see all devices, when i go to create a scene/automation the drop down menu just says ewelink devices and no divces are in the menu? any help will be appreciated, im a beginner appologies.

small flower
#

Hey! Quick question about the installation. Pros and cons. I have Synology DS220+ with 18GB RAM and Proxmox Server. Is it better to install HA in docker on Synology DS220+ or maybe install it on proxmox? What are pros and cons and which way would you go and why?

humble mirage
#

Depends, do you want add-ons, or are you comfortable with Docker?

mighty prism
#

I am using latest version of HAOS. The ip is set to dhcp and ip is reserved on router. OS always takes a different ip, not the ip that was bind to Mac on router ? Is this a bug or am I missing something

sudden ivy
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Hi guys! I'm pretty new to linux and I"ve still managed to install HAOS on a VM created on ubutu's last release on a spare laptop I had home. I linked it with Nabu Casa so i have access to it from everywhere, even manage to get it work with Google Assistant etc. My main concern is that i was never able to manage to access the VM from my home network other computers. I thought that as I'm using Nabu its not an issue anymore but it still is because I keep getting issue with the VM not seeing device (like my Chromecast) of can't install Add-on (saying no internet connection available). I made a lot of research on the web and everyone is talking about bridging my VM so it has a same IP adress as the rest of the network but I just can't seem to figure out how to do it. So I got a few question... 1 ) is VM installation the way to go as a beginner or there's an easier way... 2) is bridging a real solution for my problems and 3) any good ref on a guide for doing this? 🙂 I know its gonna be a lot of job working on HA to set everything done and I'm so trilled to learn doing it, but learning everything about linux and networking on top of that seems a little too complicated for me 😦

steep latch
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Hey, how can i downgrade core of my install to a previous GIT version?

humble mirage
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Assuming HAOS

steep latch
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Yes, Hass OS

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i tried this in terminal:
ha core update --version x.y.z And it said success, but then what? 😛

humble mirage
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Then like any update the update will be downloaded and HA restarted

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Not sure what happens if you've got invalid YAML for the new version shrug

steep latch
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Its a bare new install to recover from Google drive backup, for some reason, the latest version seems unable to bring my old backups (1 week old) in from google drive through the Google drive backup UI

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So im trying an older version to see if the problem exists there as well. Happens with several different backups

high token
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it should go offline before finished while it's still saying Processing

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if it said completed successfully within seconds then the version is wrong

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try writing it --version=2022.x.x

steep latch
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Ok, it also seems as ha core update --version 2022.4 throws a "success" message, just after a few seconds, but when i specified 2022.4.4, it is processing quite long timewise, so it feels like it needs specific version

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Ah yes exactly what i found out 🙂

high token
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2022.4 isn't valid

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you need the minor version too

steep latch
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Exactly, probably 4.0 would have been valid

high token
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indeed

steep latch
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ok hoping it helps, dying to get my install back 🙂

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Thank you for your help btw 🙂

high token
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the Google Drive Backup is an addon though

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it shouldn't have anything to do with Core

steep latch
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Yes, but the addon is really just using home assistant snapshot (now backup) and is not its own backup tool as i have understood it?

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Mearly an off-device sync function, the reading and implementing of snapshots is still done by the Hass core?

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The issues visualized:

high token
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Backups are part of Supervisor

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not HA Core

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which is why they only exist in HAOS /Supervised

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I'll wait for the visualisation 😄

steep latch
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Hm yeah, im not able to upload images here for some reason, ill link them

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This image visualizes what happens at the end of the "uploading to home assistant" every single time

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It happens with 3 different backups, and always the same.

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The error log says:

07-04 22:17:09 INFO [backup.ha.hasource] Downloading 'Partial Backup 2022-06-23 15:19:01'
07-04 22:17:09 DEBUG [backup.ha.harequests] Making Hassio request: http://supervisor/backups/new/upload
07-04 22:18:27 ERROR [backup.ha.hasource]    
  addon/backup/ha/hasource.py:362 (save)   
  addon/backup/ha/harequests.py:31 (wrap_and_call)   
  addon/backup/ha/harequests.py:89 (upload)   
  addon/backup/ha/harequests.py:245 (_postHassioData)   
  addon/backup/ha/harequests.py:31 (wrap_and_call)   
  addon/backup/ha/harequests.py:250 (_sendHassioData)   
  addon/backup/ha/harequests.py:202 (_validateHassioReply)   
  /site-packages/aiohttp/client_reqrep.py:1004 (raise_for_status)   
aiohttp.client_exceptions.ClientResponseError: 400, message='Bad Request', url=URL('http://supervisor/backups/new/upload')
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If i move the .tar archives manually to the /backup folder, they still are not recognized as anything usable, not in Drive backup addon, nor in the native backup interface

high token
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and the backup was recent?

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as in I see there it was created a few weeks ago?