#installation-archived | Home Assistant | Page 93

high token Jul 5, 2022, 1:42 PM

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that error more suggests the upload wasn't possible if anything

heavy cypress Jul 5, 2022, 1:45 PM

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Any recommendation for a Zigbee hub?

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Must support Home assistant (duh..)

humble mirage Jul 5, 2022, 1:47 PM

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See the pins in the #zigbee-archived channel

steep latch Jul 5, 2022, 3:31 PM

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Yeah, i have files from 23rd, 26th, and 28th of june and my install died on the 29th of june, as an electrician was here and fiddled with the main power supply to my house, resulting in my nuc killing my SSD.

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So they are up 2 date in regards of recent changes, i just havent had time to spend on troubleshooting this the last week.

valid lion Jul 5, 2022, 4:32 PM

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Hi Tinkerer. Yesterday you recommended Visual Studio Code and I have tried to set it up. Unfortunately any changes on configuration.yaml will be denied due to missing permissions. Usually I am using with my user Christian "sudo". What settings do I need change?

humble mirage Jul 5, 2022, 4:32 PM

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Well, how are you running VSC?

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Over SSH?

valid lion Jul 5, 2022, 4:33 PM

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humble mirage Over SSH?

yes

humble mirage Jul 5, 2022, 4:34 PM

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Then I'd bet the user doesn't have permissions to edit the files

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Add your group to the files you want to edit, and then add group write to the files too (you'll probably have to give group write to the folder too)

valid lion Jul 5, 2022, 4:35 PM

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so group "adm" isn't enough to have general permissions?

humble mirage Jul 5, 2022, 4:36 PM

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Well, depends on what you mean, but probably no

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If you just added your user to that group, then your user now has anything that group has access to

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Doesn't give you root like powers

valid lion Jul 5, 2022, 4:40 PM

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ok thanks. I thought that also adm has enough rights and I thought I did another mistake.

humble mirage Jul 5, 2022, 4:41 PM

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Nah, adm is just a group like any other group, it's not special

trail pike Jul 5, 2022, 4:41 PM

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I am having issues with with my HA not connecting to my network, it was working, and then I updated the core and when it rebooted it was no longer working (please ping reply to my messages)

viscid python Jul 5, 2022, 4:43 PM

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i'm having a similar issue but with HA on pi granted its my first time using it but when ever i try and go to http://homeassistant.local:8123 it says ```DNS_PROBE_FINISHED_NXDOMAIN

trail pike Jul 5, 2022, 4:45 PM

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most likely a similar issue to me where it don't have an IP address and isn't connected to your local network

humble mirage Jul 5, 2022, 4:45 PM

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It means it can't resolve the domain

viscid python Jul 5, 2022, 4:45 PM

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trail pike most likely a similar issue to me where it don't have an IP address and isn't co...

it plugged in to my router

trail pike Jul 5, 2022, 4:46 PM

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viscid python it plugged in to my router

yeah, but mine is connected too and is still not properly getting an IP

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(BTW, I am using proxmox install for mine)

viscid python Jul 5, 2022, 4:46 PM

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hmm

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i did figure out that its on my 5g network because when i use my other one (same router) it just refuses connection

abstract hearthBOT Jul 5, 2022, 4:52 PM

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viscid python Jul 5, 2022, 4:52 PM

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damn

trail pike Jul 5, 2022, 4:52 PM

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woops

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https://hastebin.com/powovaqasi

humble mirage Jul 5, 2022, 4:53 PM

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It's either not finding a link, or not getting a DHCP lease

trail pike Jul 5, 2022, 4:54 PM

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well nothing changed in proxmox between the core update, and i have tried restarting several times

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what I did right before this happened is:

Update z-wave to latest version
Update OS to latest version
Update Core to latest version...

After updating the Core it restarted and fails to connect to the internet

viscid python Jul 5, 2022, 4:57 PM

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ok so i know have the ip address but it still wont let me go to the site

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so what should i do next

crude inlet Jul 5, 2022, 5:09 PM

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check logs

viscid python Jul 5, 2022, 5:12 PM

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i dont have logs

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its first time install

trail pike Jul 5, 2022, 5:17 PM

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anyone know how to fix my issue? or steps I can take? I luckaly don't have a smart home set up, but I would like to get the issue resolved

serene charm Jul 5, 2022, 5:31 PM

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hey - I'm also running into a similar issue with my install.
iPhone app: Cloud connection status hanging, never finishes
Macbook app: The request timed out. Error Code: NSURLErrorDomain -1001
Browser (http://homeassistant.local:8123/): ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT

viscid python Jul 5, 2022, 5:33 PM

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WAIT i think i got it

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it take about 20 mins to fully install

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but i also just updated my browser

viscid python Jul 5, 2022, 5:35 PM

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serene charm hey - I'm also running into a similar issue with my install. iPhone app: Cloud ...

if u wanna join vc i think i can walk u through it

serene charm Jul 5, 2022, 5:36 PM

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I think mine started after trying to setup the adguard addon - did you try that?

viscid python Jul 5, 2022, 5:36 PM

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no

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wait is this ur first time installing

serene charm Jul 5, 2022, 5:47 PM

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sort of, I think it is installed, but I can't access it outside of the iphone app

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and can't connect to HA Cloud

crude inlet Jul 5, 2022, 5:48 PM

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you think HA is installed?

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This needs to be confirmed before anything will work

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There is no cloud instance. Your HA instance is THE instance

serene charm Jul 5, 2022, 5:50 PM

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to clarify, it is installed, but there seems to be something missing

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for example: on the mac app, I see the server, but when I try to connect I get the NSURLErrorDomain -1001 error

crude inlet Jul 5, 2022, 5:51 PM

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test with browsers only

serene charm Jul 5, 2022, 5:51 PM

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Browser (http://homeassistant.local:8123/): ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT

crude inlet Jul 5, 2022, 5:51 PM

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whatever_the_ip_address_is:8123

serene charm Jul 5, 2022, 5:53 PM

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that's where I get the ERR_CONNECTION_TIMED_OUT or ERR_CONNECTION_CLOSED error

high token Jul 5, 2022, 5:54 PM

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steep latch Yeah, i have files from 23rd, 26th, and 28th of june and my install died on the ...

If it's HA Core you mainly care for and not the addons you can always extra the file from the tar and override the current files to get your HA back

proud nymph Jul 5, 2022, 6:50 PM

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hi everyone, I have been having some trouble with my home assistant installation. Does anyone knows how to access back ups directly from the VM please ?

steep latch Jul 5, 2022, 7:22 PM

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high token If it's HA Core you mainly care for and not the addons you can always extra the ...

That is ofcourse better then nothing, but i have ALOT of integrations and addons running to make everything work as i want it to.

steep latch Jul 5, 2022, 7:23 PM

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proud nymph hi everyone, I have been having some trouble with my home assistant installation...

Assuming the file structure is the same as on an Nuc, you have a backup folder in the top folder, where you have your config folder too.

steep latch Jul 5, 2022, 7:25 PM

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steep latch That is ofcourse better then nothing, but i have ALOT of integrations and addons...

And this also makes it hard to trust the backup system, as there is no real way to validate a backup other then actually restoring it.

high token Jul 5, 2022, 8:48 PM

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@steep latch perhaps open up an issue in the Supervisor repo. I'm not exactly certain what's happening in your case

steep latch Jul 5, 2022, 9:39 PM

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high token <@538632607576096788> perhaps open up an issue in the Supervisor repo. I'm not e...

Thanks, ill try that 🙂

exotic wyvern Jul 6, 2022, 8:23 AM

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ran the upgrade for the supervisor upgrade the latest and now it wont start. Im running supervised on my ubuntu box. Right now it appears the homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor docker container is going through reboot loops

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any suggestions for troubleshooting?

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i was only 1 version off. so not a huge update

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http://pastie.org/p/4E2e7yfieiNsTsFT3DQZhu

exotic wyvern Jul 6, 2022, 9:46 AM

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hmm, looks like my install was pre os-agent. this is required now to install supervised?

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when i installed it, it completely screwed up my networking

exotic wyvern Jul 6, 2022, 10:47 AM

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got the network installed. So since it doesnt like aufs anymore and overlay2 is required. It fails to mention that you cant just convert to overlay2. none of the existing storage/containers will work that way

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woo hoo, more breaking changes....

cyan hamlet Jul 6, 2022, 12:33 PM

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i am having this spammed into the console on a virtualbox vm https://i.imgur.com/5Ld32X3.png

crude inlet Jul 6, 2022, 1:40 PM

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@cyan hamlet Nothing can be written to the host system, but I don't know what is attempting to do that

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Is there something you recently configured?

cyan hamlet Jul 6, 2022, 1:42 PM

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no i just remade the vm with a fresh file because i was having issues before and it was running fine last night

wet geyser Jul 6, 2022, 2:01 PM

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I have a Linux running that has docker instances on it. I'm wanting to do a full os install though so that it supports add ons. I was thinking a virtual machine. What are your guys thoughts on that, is there a better way?

vagrant glade Jul 6, 2022, 2:12 PM

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Hi all i was sent here from #general-archived since i have a serious issue with disconnects happening every few seconds..

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everything apart from the frontend (the web admin) seems to (kinda) work but every few minutes i loose connection to HAS both from web interface on PC and all companion apps on phone/tablet

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it seems when the disconnects happen i can still ping the machine

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these are the specs

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have it installed on a nuc, running latest HAS 2022.6
Home Assistant Core 2022.6.7
Home Assistant Supervisor 2022.06.2
Home Assistant OS 8.2

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im leaving on holiday soon so im a bit stressed since i want access to HAS when im away relaiably 🙂

sage kestrel Jul 6, 2022, 2:16 PM

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Hi all. My VirtualBox/Home Assistatnt OS keeps rebooting somewhere after the Docker engine is started. I am running Virtualbox on Mac OS. I cannot find the exact point in the logs where it reboots itself...

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My VDI file has about 2 Gb extra space, maybe it needs to be extended?

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It´s set to Dynamically allocate storage.

twilit plume Jul 6, 2022, 3:32 PM

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hrmm, I run HA in a docker container. I stopped the container and restarted it and I'm only getting /onboarding.html now - no login page. I start the container with: "-v hadata:/config" and I jsut checked that all my config.yaml files seem to be in place inside /config - e.g. /config/home-assistant_v2.db is 1.7G - so I didn't torpedo my config directory. Nothing obvious in the logs (other than login errors coming from the HA iOS app). Any other ideas?

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bit hard to tell what precise version HA is without being able to get into the UI. I pulled the image 2 weeks ago. Was working well till I stopped and restarted

twilit plume Jul 6, 2022, 3:50 PM

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backed up my config, then went through onboarding - so my lovelace config is all gone/recreated. and obviously users were torpedo'd somehow

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confirmed I'm using ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable -- rolling back to 2022.6.5 (unsure if I was using an old version and my original restart pulled the new latest stable)

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no dice. feels like some kind of permissions issue on the DB. but all of /config is root:roo. and ps aux inside the container shows me all processes are run as root

high token Jul 6, 2022, 4:09 PM

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@twilit plume you might also want to look into docker compose so you don't have to be using one command with multiple flags

twilit plume Jul 6, 2022, 4:09 PM

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this is all docker compose based

high token Jul 6, 2022, 4:09 PM

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Aaah

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I saw you mentioning -v xxx so I thought you weren't

twilit plume Jul 6, 2022, 4:10 PM

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eh, loose translating, sorry

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@grand pivot 🦘 ?

high token Jul 6, 2022, 4:10 PM

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kangaroo(t)

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I assume haha

twilit plume Jul 6, 2022, 4:10 PM

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sorr,y i dont know what that is 😦

high token Jul 6, 2022, 4:11 PM

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still not working by the way?

twilit plume Jul 6, 2022, 4:12 PM

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full docker compose was this: https://gist.github.com/josh-m-sharpe/c8e48d79f2f1734b51d35a8f404effdc -- I've since moved the volume to be - ./config:/config to mount directly from the FS

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yea, still can't get it to work

high token Jul 6, 2022, 4:12 PM

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the DB is unrelated to this issue though for sure

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that can even be deleted. HA doesn't care. It's just history

twilit plume Jul 6, 2022, 4:13 PM

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the *db file? really?

high token Jul 6, 2022, 4:13 PM

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the database file just contains the history for all your entities

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and any potential long term statistics for energy

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no HA configuration exists in there

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 4:16 PM

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oh so you moved the stuff from a volume to a directory?

grand pivot Jul 6, 2022, 4:16 PM

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twilit plume sorr,y i dont know what that is 😦

sorry, just being silly:

but all of /config is root:roo

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 4:16 PM

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all the stuff like its entity registry and your users live in files in /config/.storage/ maybe you didnt copy that and thats why its all missing?

twilit plume Jul 6, 2022, 4:18 PM

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@storm sluice to debug/fiddle. this issue cropped up while still using the volume

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there's all kinds of fun stuff inside .storage on the volume

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so not sure why it would've come up and not been able to read any of that?

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like... .storage/auth I can see my username

carmine kestrel Jul 6, 2022, 4:38 PM

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Hey all, I'm running a supervised install on generic debian via VirtualBox and this morning my supervisor started going nuts. It keeps erroring out and restarting. Hoping to get some suggestions

carmine kestrel Jul 6, 2022, 4:43 PM

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high token no HA configuration exists in there

This is the log I'm getting

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https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/raw/pabewarefu

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I do notice I have 2 supervisor images

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https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/raw/taxufiheva

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It seems I have 3 versions of the supervisor in docker somehow. All updated 8 days ago. Seems there may be an issue with that

crude inlet Jul 6, 2022, 5:05 PM

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try an ha su repair in the ssh addon console

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if it can run long enough

carmine kestrel Jul 6, 2022, 5:05 PM

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i'll give it a go

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yeah doesn't look like it will run

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it just keeps reloading itself

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is it possible to just re-install the supervisor?

crude inlet Jul 6, 2022, 5:08 PM

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you could re-run the install script

carmine kestrel Jul 6, 2022, 5:11 PM

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Its the script on the linux platform installation page correct? It's been a long time since installing this

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this one? wget https://github.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer/releases/latest/download/homeassistant-supervised.deb

crude inlet Jul 6, 2022, 5:22 PM

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right

naive meadow Jul 6, 2022, 5:23 PM

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After a power outage my HAOS vm on proxmox is getting some wierd ip starting with 172.30.x.x. I can't remember what the IP was before but my guess would be 192.168.x.x. I don't know how to connect to it now. And I'm not really sure what to google here. Can anybody help? 😬

crude inlet Jul 6, 2022, 5:24 PM

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@carmine kestrel you might check this <#general-archived message>

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@naive meadow where are you seeing that?

naive meadow Jul 6, 2022, 5:26 PM

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seeing the ip?

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Datacenter > pve > 100 (haos8.1) >> Summary

crude inlet Jul 6, 2022, 5:29 PM

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Is HAOS running? The terminal is available?

naive meadow Jul 6, 2022, 5:29 PM

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yeah the console is available

crude inlet Jul 6, 2022, 5:30 PM

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what does ha network info show?

naive meadow Jul 6, 2022, 5:31 PM

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docker: address: 172.30.x.x

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I've tried rebooting but that didn't seem to help :/

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@crude inlet any ideas? 😅

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can't copy the text and it seems I can't paste an image here 😅

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ipv4: method: disabled

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could that be why?

shy harness Jul 6, 2022, 5:58 PM

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Hi everyone, let me introduce myself : I'm a big noob regarding linux and all that stuff and I am trying to install HA in docker so that I can still use my raspberry for other purposes and I'm having trouble getting supervisor and/or HACS (I don't know the difference between the 2) working
Could someone explain to me during a quick call how to do it and what are the nuances that I'm not able to understand ?
Thanking you all in advance

carmine kestrel Jul 6, 2022, 6:01 PM

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crude inlet <@437128641449689088> you might check this <https://discord.com/channels/3309442...

Thanks. Looks like docker is the issue and needs to be updated.

naive meadow Jul 6, 2022, 6:03 PM

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@shy harness I fried 2 or 3 sd cards trying to get HA working on my PI. I know it's probably not what you want to hear. But do yourself a BIG favour and buy a micropc and use that instead instead(they're cheap).

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here is an awesome guide on how to get going https://community.home-assistant.io/t/installing-home-assistant-os-using-proxmox-7/201835

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besides that I would recommend not running HA in docker

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because then you loose the add-on store

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Someone recommended buying a dell optiplex

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there should be a lot of those on ebay

crude inlet Jul 6, 2022, 6:06 PM

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naive meadow could that be why?

yes

naive meadow Jul 6, 2022, 6:07 PM

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@crude inlet i tried deleting the network device and creating a new one but that didn't help :/

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/no-ip-address-after-a-reboot/411923

humble mirage Jul 6, 2022, 6:11 PM

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shy harness Hi everyone, let me introduce myself : I'm a big noob regarding linux and all th...

The Supervisor is for add-ons, with your chosen install method you don't get them

HACS is for custom components, you can have them 😉

abstract hearthBOT Jul 6, 2022, 6:11 PM

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Home Assistant Community Store is the successor to the old Custom Updater, and can do so much more - you should check it out. They even have a Discord server for issues with HACS itself.

naive meadow Jul 6, 2022, 6:15 PM

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Ok so here is how I solved it:

From the console

ha network info

note the name of the interface

and then ha network update <theinterfacename> --ipv4-method auto

frigid crane Jul 6, 2022, 6:28 PM

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i had a power outage today and my HA is not booting up, i connected a monitor to the computer and it is at the debian login screen, never had a problem before

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running supervised

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anyone know where i could start to get it booted up again?

naive meadow Jul 6, 2022, 6:35 PM

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@frigid crane well, how's your setup?

frigid crane Jul 6, 2022, 6:39 PM

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its been so solid for so long now, i dont ever fucking remember how i set it up

gleaming osprey Jul 6, 2022, 6:41 PM

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Check what version of docker you have by running docker -v. If its not 20 or above then there is an issue with the latest supervisor. You need to update docker

frigid crane Jul 6, 2022, 6:42 PM

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ahh

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yes that seems to be the issue

gleaming osprey Jul 6, 2022, 6:42 PM

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https://community.home-assistant.io/t/latest-supervisor-wont-start/437311/41

grand pivot Jul 6, 2022, 6:42 PM

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this is a clever way to flush out all the Supervised users

frigid crane Jul 6, 2022, 6:43 PM

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yea, gonna have to make the jump to OS soon

grand pivot Jul 6, 2022, 6:43 PM

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from that thread:

I will switch to HASS OS after this incident. But just need to get the house functioning first and makes some notes

gleaming osprey Jul 6, 2022, 6:44 PM

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I've been debating moving to Proxmox and HA OS for about six months now. Just worry about losing something, I need to get a new drive so I can swap between Supervised and HA OS whilst I make sure it's all transferred over

frigid crane Jul 6, 2022, 6:45 PM

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wife home in 45 min, i cant take her giving me shit about it~

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ok, i updated in and rebooted

grand pivot Jul 6, 2022, 6:46 PM

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How come you're still using Supervised? You should have moved to HA OS a long time ago!

frigid crane Jul 6, 2022, 6:47 PM

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i wish

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more like, i told you...

crude inlet Jul 6, 2022, 6:48 PM

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I think Proxmox is better if you have a dedicated drive for the VMs. I had issues with it on a NUC with one drive for both the hypervisor and VMs

frigid crane Jul 6, 2022, 6:50 PM

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thank god, having flashbacks to old dashboard change config errors which would mess everything up, circa 2018

gleaming osprey Jul 6, 2022, 6:52 PM

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They shouldn't really force supervisor updates. I never upgrade HA on the first day of release for this very reason

frigid crane Jul 6, 2022, 6:52 PM

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i still can't bring myself to do a restart without checking yaml, regardless of any changes

gleaming osprey Jul 6, 2022, 6:52 PM

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I tend to give it a few days then check the forums & reddit to see if there are any known problems. I then hit update when I have time to fix anything that could break

viral pebble Jul 6, 2022, 7:03 PM

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I'm on HA supervised. I rebooted my host today, HA came up, all was good, then I needed to restart HA and it won't start. I get the following error:

Error response from daemon: Cannot restart container homeassistant: failed to create shim task: OCI runtime create failed: runc create failed: unable to start container process: error during container init: error mounting "/usr/share/hassio/audio/asound" to rootfs at "/etc/asound.conf": mount /usr/share/hassio/audio/asound:/etc/asound.conf (via /proc/self/fd/6), flags: 0x5001: not a directory: unknown: Are you trying to mount a directory onto a file (or vice-versa)? Check if the specified host path exists and is the expected type

This doesn't seem to be the issue others are having with docker

golden walrus Jul 6, 2022, 7:42 PM

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I'm currently running a RPi3 using MQTT and z2m. All HAOS, no dockers, etc. All is good. I'm about to migrate to a RPi4+SSD. I'd like to continue keeping it simple. I like the idea of HOAS because it'll keep everything (including linux) updated, etc. I don't want to have to maintain and tinker all the time. Is there any reason i should reconsider and use Docker or something more complicated?

humble mirage Jul 6, 2022, 7:45 PM

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If you're happy with what you have, don't change it for the sake of change

golden walrus Jul 6, 2022, 7:59 PM

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is 32 or 64bit recommended for RPi4 4gb?

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i have 32 on my RPi3

viral pebble Jul 6, 2022, 8:06 PM

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viral pebble I'm on HA supervised. I rebooted my host today, HA came up, all was good, then I...

I've tried running the scripts to reinstall HA and still have this issue. Its like docker cant make the bind

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:03 PM

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Hi guys, i need your assistant, i'm locked outside the HA and my entire home is depends on it

humble mirage Jul 6, 2022, 9:03 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/locked_out/

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:04 PM

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i've done that

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i've manage to connect with a monitor

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and i am prompt with "homeassistant login", but my credentials don't work...

humble mirage Jul 6, 2022, 9:05 PM

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That sounds like a very old install

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Try root

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:05 PM

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and then?

humble mirage Jul 6, 2022, 9:05 PM

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Well, first enter that

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:06 PM

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it prompt me with [WARN] Home Assistant CLI is not running! hump into emergncy console...

humble mirage Jul 6, 2022, 9:07 PM

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Do you have backups you can use to recover with?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:07 PM

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on my ssd probably, allthough i am not sure how updated they are 😦

humble mirage Jul 6, 2022, 9:07 PM

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That's sadly pretty normal, nobody cares about backups until it's too late

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:08 PM

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is it really the only way?

humble mirage Jul 6, 2022, 9:08 PM

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I've got to go, hopefully somebody else will be able to help you

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:08 PM

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oh man

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thanks for the help i guess =/

kindred temple Jul 6, 2022, 9:14 PM

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This info seemed to answer my Q. I proceeded with the restart in the UI without issue 👍🏼

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:14 PM

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if anyone here is available to assist me, it would be amazing

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:15 PM

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do you get into a shell?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:15 PM

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for some reason, i am unable

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:16 PM

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it should try running the haos cli and eventualy fail and drop you into a shell if that doesnt work

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after some time

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probably docker doesnt work if it cant run the cli, i asume ha doesnt start either? or can you just not login?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:17 PM

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i am currently prompt with the "welcome to Home assistant" followed up with "homeassistant login:" (all cli, connected to the PI4 with a monitor)

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:18 PM

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and what happens if you try to login? it should work with user root and no password

golden walrus Jul 6, 2022, 9:19 PM

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does a home assistant backup include my mqtt (mosquito) and zigbee2mqtt installs? They're addons and integrations.. does it all work as expected? Im migrating to a new RPi

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:19 PM

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if i type "root", i am prompt with [WARN] Home Assistant CLI is not running! jump into emergency console...

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:20 PM

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golden walrus does a home assistant backup include my mqtt (mosquito) and zigbee2mqtt installs...

if its a full backup it includes all addons and their data

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:20 PM

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hushed token if i type "root", i am prompt with [WARN] Home Assistant CLI is not running! jum...

but it doesnt drop you into a shell?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:21 PM

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umm, i am not sure how can i say that... i do prompt with #

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i mean, it changes, i am able to type "help" and recieve a list of supported commands

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when i try to cd. i am able to go though a file called .ssh

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:22 PM

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try docker ps

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does it show any running containers?

golden walrus Jul 6, 2022, 9:23 PM

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storm sluice if its a full backup it includes all addons and their data

when migrating to a new/different RPi, ive read you shouldn't backup the "core", but do include the integrations adn addons. so i think that should work, eh?

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:24 PM

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why wouldnt you backup core? pretty sure you want to have your homeassistant data or not?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:26 PM

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looks like i have 1 docker -> ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-observer:2021.10.0 (command /init)

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any idea?

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:33 PM

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maybe do some basic checks first

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like is any of the filesystems full?

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df -h

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:35 PM

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i see 100% only on /dev/root

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:35 PM

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yeah thats normal, if nothing else is full then thats not our problem

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try docker ps -a

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then we can check the logs of the containers that failed to start using docker logs container_name

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guess "docker logs hassio_supervisor" would be a good start

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:40 PM

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i dont have such docker :/

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but when i try to do it on homeassistant (docker name) i get lots of errors related to telegram_bot.polling

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but it might be related to unsuccesfull start up

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my entire issue start from the supervisor, i was unable to load the plugin pages on the web client (like node-red)

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and i've read that after an hard reset it should solve it, since then i am stuck

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by the way, the status of all the conainters (beside the hassio_observer) is Exited (255) 2 hours ago

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:43 PM

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and it doesnt show the supervisor at all?

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with docker ps -a?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:43 PM

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nope

golden walrus Jul 6, 2022, 9:44 PM

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storm sluice why wouldnt you backup core? pretty sure you want to have your homeassistant dat...

i think the reasoning is that if the new system is a different device, some of the old "core" might not work?

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:44 PM

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golden walrus i think the reasoning is that if the new system is a different device, some of t...

but thats what contains all your homeassistant config and data..

golden walrus Jul 6, 2022, 9:46 PM

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yeh.. i'll make several types of backups.. and start with the full

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:46 PM

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hushed token nope

try running hassos-supervisor

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:46 PM

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as command?

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:46 PM

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that should try recreating that container

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yes

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:48 PM

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you have reach your pull rate limit. you may increase the limit by authentication and upgrading: https://www.docker.com/increwase-rate-limit

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it's not all the messages i've got, but it's the last one

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i will type the flow:

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:51 PM

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weird, is this some sort of shared internet connection?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:52 PM

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hassos-supervisor
Error: no such object: hassio_supervisor
[Warrning] Supervisor container did not remove the startup marker file. assuming container image or container corruption.
Error: no such container: hassio_supervisor
Error: no such image: sha256.........................................................
[Warning] supervsior image missing, downlading a fresh one: 2022.06.2
error response from daemon: toomanyrequests: you have reached your pull rate limit. you may increase the limit by authentication and upgrading: https://www.docker.com/increwase-rate-limit
[Warrning] supervisor downlading failed tryong: latest
error response from daemon: toomanyrequests: you have reached your pull rate limit. you may increase the limit by authentication and upgrading: https://www.docker.com/increwase-rate-limit

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wdym?

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i guess it is

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well, i am not sure about the definition but my connection is not direct to the ISP

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i'm so frustrated =/

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:58 PM

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can you start the hassio_cli container?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 9:59 PM

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how can i do that?

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 9:59 PM

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try docker start hassio_cli

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:00 PM

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i think it's up

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status changed

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:00 PM

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try hassos-cli as command and see if you can get into rhe cli

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:01 PM

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i did, it says Waiting for Supervisor to statup...

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and it blinks

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nothing changed... =/

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:02 PM

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yeah guess it doesnt work without the supervisor

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:04 PM

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oh

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something happen

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i am prompt with "ha > "

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not sure what it means

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:04 PM

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ah cool

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:06 PM

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it did write just before:
Get "http://suerpvisor/network/info": dial tcp 172.30.32.2:80: connect: no route to host

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so i am not sure if we are ok

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:06 PM

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try su repair as a command in the cli

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that will try fixing the supervisor

high token Jul 6, 2022, 10:07 PM

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doesn't that download the image again though?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:07 PM

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Post "http://supervisor/supervisor/repair": dial tcp 172.30.32.2:80: connect: no route to host

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:09 PM

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ah so that doesnt work 😦

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does su update work?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:11 PM

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could it be that i am not connected to the network? even though i am connected by cable

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:12 PM

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network info

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but maybe that uses the supervisor too

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not sure

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:13 PM

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yea i get same "no route to host" issues as i get with the other cmds

high token Jul 6, 2022, 10:13 PM

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If it's a rate limit could he maybe make a docker hub account and then use docker login in the host to authenticate to increase the limit?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:14 PM

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i can try

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:14 PM

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yeah or just pull it from ghcr.io and retag the image

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:15 PM

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this one right? https://hub.docker.com/

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:18 PM

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yeah you can make an account and then login using docker login command

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:18 PM

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it doesnt really prompt me with autentication when i try to docker login

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it tell me that i have 2 available commands, info and registries

high token Jul 6, 2022, 10:19 PM

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you're probably in the cli container still

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you're at # ?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:19 PM

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no, ha >

high token Jul 6, 2022, 10:19 PM

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login

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:25 PM

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if your back in the # prompt try docker login and then hassos-supervisor again and see if the error goes away

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:26 PM

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ok looks like it worked

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i have the container now

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:27 PM

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nice

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:27 PM

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but the status is Exited (0)

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should i try docker start hassio_supervisor

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:27 PM

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yeah try that

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if that doesnt work we can look at its logs

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:29 PM

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ok so, i've done docker logs hassio_supervisor

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there is bunch of logs

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i see s6-svwait: fatal: supervisor died

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and also another error (unclosed client session)

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and some python stack error

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keyError: CgroupVersion

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(key error related to the python stack)

supple ridge Jul 6, 2022, 10:31 PM

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I'm watching this with interest, thanks - having exactly the same problems - could it be related to this? https://community.home-assistant.io/t/latest-supervisor-wont-start/437311/57

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Seems that you need docker 20 for the latest supervisor to work. I have docker 19 but can't figure out how to update it in this hassos vm

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:33 PM

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you cant unless you update hassos

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:34 PM

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supple ridge I'm watching this with interest, thanks - having exactly the same problems - cou...

looks exactly like the error i get

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:35 PM

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you can try hassos-cli

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then os update

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:36 PM

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whats the command to update the os? os update?

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:37 PM

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yeah if you are in the hassos-cli (ha > prompt) you can just use the command "os update"

supple ridge Jul 6, 2022, 10:38 PM

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From the # prompt i'm doing docker start hassio_cli and then ha os update but I'm getting the tcp dial error like you did. Seems like the updater needs the supervisor to be running?

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if I try to login after I start the hassio_cli container, it just says "waiting for supervisor" endlessly

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:40 PM

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supple ridge From the # prompt i'm doing `docker start hassio_cli` and then `ha os update` bu...

i get the same result as you do... 😭

supple ridge Jul 6, 2022, 10:42 PM

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I don't know if I'm reading these error mesages right, but it looks like supervisor won't run on current version of OS/Docker, but supervisor is also needed to update OS/Docker. Catch 22

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:48 PM

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some dude in your link suggest doing the following:

sudo apt-get install docker-ce docker-ce-cli containerd.io -y```

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:48 PM

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yeah that doesnt work in hassos

supple ridge Jul 6, 2022, 10:48 PM

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yeah I'd love to but my hassos doesn't have apt or any of that stuff

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:48 PM

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ah

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how come by the way?

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:48 PM

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we can try finding which older supervisor still works with your os version

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or try updating the os manualy

obtuse olive Jul 6, 2022, 10:51 PM

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Supervisor update to 6.2 hosed my system. The docker won't start, and can't find a way to downgrade back to 5.3 which did work.

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:52 PM

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supple ridge yeah I'd love to but my hassos doesn't have apt or any of that stuff

why do we have that limitation, i am failrly new with linux os

supple ridge Jul 6, 2022, 10:53 PM

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If I do docker image ls I still have supervisor 2022.05.3 as well as the 2022.06.2 ("latest"). Is there any way to roll back to that mgolisch?

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I assume the 06.2 is the one causing problems

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 10:56 PM

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whats the name of your supervisor image?

supple ridge Jul 6, 2022, 10:58 PM

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homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor
and I also have ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor but they both have the same image ID

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I have two versions of the supervisor as mentioned previously

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 10:59 PM

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supple ridge homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor and I also have ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd...

i am exactly in the same position as you

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:02 PM

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systemctl stop hassos-supervisor
docker pull homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3
docker tag homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3 homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:latest
systemctl start hassos-supervisor

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that works for me it downgraded the supervisor to 2022.05.3

high token Jul 6, 2022, 11:07 PM

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it won't last of course

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:08 PM

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no but would potentialy allow to make a new backup and download it and then update the os

high token Jul 6, 2022, 11:09 PM

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weird for Supervisor to be cause all these issues. Especially if it's tied to Docker update

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surely SU wouldn't just update to a version where it's not supported by docker 20

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 11:12 PM

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storm sluice systemctl stop hassos-supervisor docker pull homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervis...

i still receive the same error 😦

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:12 PM

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are you on a amd64 machine?

supple ridge Jul 6, 2022, 11:12 PM

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Even worse for me, it won't even boot now lol

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 11:13 PM

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i think for me is aarch64

supple ridge Jul 6, 2022, 11:14 PM

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I have a proxmox backup from yesterday though so I'm going to roll it back and see if I can do the OS update with a supervisor that works

high token Jul 6, 2022, 11:15 PM

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so you must be before OS 8.0 huh?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 11:15 PM

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i have manage to set set the 2022.05.3 as latest (i think that what it does) and after i tried to re run the start command docker start hassio_supervisor and recieved the same errors, and re run docker image ls i see the the "latest" is back to the 2022.06.2

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:16 PM

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you need to do the systemctl commands

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 11:16 PM

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i did

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i followed your commands (without the pull though)

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:17 PM

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ah i see

obtuse olive Jul 6, 2022, 11:18 PM

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Jul 06 17:17:34 hassio-supervisor[13924]: [WARNING] Supervisor container did not remove the startup marker file. Assuming container image or container corruption.
Jul 06 17:17:35 hassio-supervisor[13924]: Error: No such container: hassio_supervisor
Jul 06 17:17:35 hassio-supervisor[13924]: Error: No such image:
Jul 06 17:17:35 hassio-supervisor[13924]: [WARNING] Supervisor image missing, downloading a fresh one: 2022.06.2
Jul 06 17:17:35 hassio-supervisor[13924]: 2022.06.2: Pulling from home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor
Jul 06 17:17:36 hassio-supervisor[13924]: 8663204ce13b: Already exists
Jul 06 17:17:36 hassio-supervisor[13924]: 786f8dc47315: Pulling fs layer

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:18 PM

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try again but before systemctl start hassos-supervisor do the following: rm /run/supervisor/startup-marker

supple ridge Jul 6, 2022, 11:18 PM

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Not sure about OS version @high token I can't see it now. The initial hassos OVA I installed was ancient (4.something) but pretty sure I kept it updated via the web UI. I'll find out after this VM restore happens

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:18 PM

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it checks that file and if its present asumes something is wrong and fetches the latest version again

obtuse olive Jul 6, 2022, 11:19 PM

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docker image list | grep super
ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor 2022.06.2 5803863b44da 8 days ago 348MB
ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor latest 5803863b44da 8 days ago 348MB
homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor 2022.05.3 1f8c765adbaa 6 weeks ago 347MB
homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor latest 1f8c765adbaa 6 weeks ago 347MB

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so how do I force it to use the 05.3?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 11:21 PM

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docker tag homeassistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3 homeassistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:latest
rm /run/supervisor/startup-marker
systemctl start hassos-supervisor (should it be hassio-supervisor?)```

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:22 PM

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no the name of the systemd unit is hassos-supervisor

quick hornet Jul 6, 2022, 11:24 PM

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hi. i've got a supervised install. stock debian with the only thing other than ha being the usboverip client i need to get my zigbee stick into the hyper-v host. For some reason after restarting the host OS ha won't start. I've ssh'ed into the server and tried running sudo ha which tells me a container isn't running. using docker ps -a i can see that the container it wanted was the hassio_cli container so i used docker container start hassio_cli to start it. that worked and the cli container is working but it doesn't seem to be able to bring up the hassio_supervisor container, i can see that it keep retrying but the supervisor quits after a few seconds. Can anyone help me work out why the supervisor isn't starting?

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 11:28 PM

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OK! so after i ran the commands, i've docker logs hassio_supervisor and everything is green!

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:28 PM

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cool

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did it start your other containers too?

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like can you do a backup in the ha ui now?

quick hornet Jul 6, 2022, 11:29 PM

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hushed token OK! so after i ran the commands, i've `docker logs hassio_supervisor` and everyt...

useful command, thanks.

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 11:30 PM

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like suervisor.core (system is running in an unhearly state and needs manual intervention!)

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yes! i am able to login via web ui

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things looks abit grim there

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but i guess i should backup

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:30 PM

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you can try hassos-cli

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then su repair

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and see if that fixes it

dapper sparrow Jul 6, 2022, 11:30 PM

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Hi

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:30 PM

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but yeah make a backup and then try updating the os, as the supervisor might update itself again

obtuse olive Jul 6, 2022, 11:31 PM

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Error: No such object: hassio_supervisor
[WARNING] Supervisor container did not remove the startup marker file. Assuming container image or container corruption.

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:31 PM

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and also downlaod the backup

dapper sparrow Jul 6, 2022, 11:35 PM

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Sorry It started after a minutes sorry

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 11:36 PM

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backup takes forever 😩

obtuse olive Jul 6, 2022, 11:38 PM

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No matter how many times I pull the 05.3 image, and tag it as latest, and rm the startup marker file...
When starting the service, it always says hassio-supervisor[21788]: [WARNING] Supervisor image missing, downloading a fresh one: 2022.06.2

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:39 PM

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wrong image?

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check docker images for the correct image name

obtuse olive Jul 6, 2022, 11:39 PM

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docker pull homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:39 PM

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if you not on a amd64 machine it might be different

obtuse olive Jul 6, 2022, 11:39 PM

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docker image list | grep super
homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor 2022.05.3 1f8c765adbaa 6 weeks ago 347MB
homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor latest 1f8c765adbaa 6 weeks ago 347MB

supple ridge Jul 6, 2022, 11:40 PM

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Thanks @storm sluice , it's working again! Even my proxmox backup still had the 06.2 supervisor enabled but your commands worked. Maybe it had installed the new super but didn't reboot yet. I'm going to try bringing the OS up to date now.

obtuse olive Jul 6, 2022, 11:40 PM

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uname says x86_64

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 11:40 PM

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ok, i've download the backup, i will try to repair, wish me luck

obtuse olive Jul 6, 2022, 11:41 PM

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Status: Downloaded newer image for ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.06.2

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I believe amd64 is the correct arch

supple ridge Jul 6, 2022, 11:41 PM

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Doing the same thing @hushed token , I'll meet you back here later when it all goes south lol

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:44 PM

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obtuse olive > Status: Downloaded newer image for ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervi...

yeah looks correct

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try tagging the ghcr.io image too

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 11:47 PM

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ok repair didnt solve anything but at least it didnt broke anything

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:48 PM

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cool maybe just try updating the os then

dawn flame Jul 6, 2022, 11:48 PM

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And this is why I love my Docker install. No issues with the supervisor shitting itself....

hushed token Jul 6, 2022, 11:48 PM

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wish i could paste a photo of my supervisor

quick hornet Jul 6, 2022, 11:48 PM

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what keeps the hassio_supervisor being restarted? i've stopped it but it keeps restarting failing and restarting.

obtuse olive Jul 6, 2022, 11:48 PM

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yep, I needed to pull the ghcr.io image and tag it as latest, otherwise the systemd service did not find a suitable image to create a container

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:49 PM

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quick hornet what keeps the hassio_supervisor being restarted? i've stopped it but it keeps r...

probably same problem, newer supervisor not compatible with old docker version

quick hornet Jul 6, 2022, 11:49 PM

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i hope not. i haven't updated anything for a long time, not the host nor the ha itself.

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though looking at it if this is the image name ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-cli:2022.06.0 and that's a date then something has been updating itself without telling me

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reading back it does look like the same issue others are having.

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so i have 2 questions. 1) how can i copy my config from inside the container it's in so i can keep a safe copy. 2) if i apt-update docker (since i'm supervised i can) will that "fix" it?

storm sluice Jul 6, 2022, 11:57 PM

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quick hornet though looking at it if this is the image name `ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-has...

https://github.com/home-assistant/supervisor/issues/3692

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i guess you can try updating docker or maybe rerun the supervised installer and see if that fixes it

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:03 AM

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If I can get to HA cli how can view logs? Form posts say cd /home but I don't have that.
Running HASS OS in a VM.

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:04 AM

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midnight vapor If I can get to HA cli how can view logs? Form posts say cd /home but I don't ha...

"core logs" for the homeassistant logs

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:06 AM

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Thanks, I got waiting for supervisor to startup 😦 VM has been booted for 25 minutes+ now

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Hey it finally worked

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Well logs finally showed up

obtuse olive Jul 7, 2022, 12:09 AM

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This rollback process is what worked for me:
docker pull ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3 docker tag ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3 ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:latest rm /run/supervisor/startup-marker systemctl restart hassio-supervisor

But that is temporary fix, because supervisor loves to auto update and break things.

Permanent solution is to upgrade docker
For me, on Ubuntu, this worked:
https://gist.github.com/mcmaur/5a0659c10af7bab9ab930e1531a82c2f

quick hornet Jul 7, 2022, 12:10 AM

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updating docker and restarting the host os got me back into the HA ui. Thanks for the link and info there @storm sluice

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What i don't understand is why the docker image got updated when i didn't update either ha or the host os.

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:11 AM

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i think if something goes wrong it just downloads the latest supervisor

quick hornet Jul 7, 2022, 12:13 AM

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implying something else went wrong, not sure what that would be. I only restarted the host because i was getting weird responses from the connected devices, missed input or commands. Perhaps something else is wrong and i need to keep investigating.

hushed token Jul 7, 2022, 12:15 AM

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i am off to sleep, its 3am here, things look better (my node red broke). i want to thank you @storm sluice for your help. tomorrow a new restore adventaure will begin 😅

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:15 AM

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hushed token i am off to sleep, its 3am here, things look better (my node red broke). i want ...

good night

quick hornet Jul 7, 2022, 12:15 AM

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if it's any help to let you sleep easier once i got the supervisor fixed the update to the latest ha went smoothly

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:16 AM

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also you guys might want to look into an addon like this: https://github.com/sabeechen/hassio-google-drive-backup

quick hornet Jul 7, 2022, 12:16 AM

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a good suggestion

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:16 AM

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it makes daily backups into my google drive, so issues like that are alot less scary

supple ridge Jul 7, 2022, 12:27 AM

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Turns out I was on a very old OS (5) it took me 3 updates to get to current. Maybe I was thinking I was updating the OS but needed to click a bit more

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:29 AM

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I'm getting dumped into emergency console mode. No more ha commands. I'm just lost not sure what I can do.

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Reboots do nothing.

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I tried docker pull latest supervisor and it said it pulled and docker ps says it running.

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Actually it's looping. Said exited and now running.

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:32 AM

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probably same problem

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check its logs

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docker logs hassio_supervisor

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:36 AM

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ERROR (MainThread) [asynciol Unclosed client session client_session: Calohttp.client.ClientSession object at 0x7143872e1ca0
WARNING: Halt Supervisor
s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: stopping

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Not super helpful imo

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:39 AM

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see further above

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if you also have that keyerror:cgroup error

quick hornet Jul 7, 2022, 12:42 AM

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it looks the same as the stack trace i had, that was the cgroup error.

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:42 AM

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I tried docker pull latest to no avail

quick hornet Jul 7, 2022, 12:43 AM

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try docker --version and see what it is

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:43 AM

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unknown-version, build unknown-commit

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:44 AM

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odd does docker version show the same?

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:45 AM

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Yeah I get API Version 1.40

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but unknown for version

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:46 AM

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cat /etc/os-release

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what does version say

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probably same issue, latest supervisor requires a newer docker version

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:47 AM

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HassOS 4.12

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:47 AM

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yeah thats stoneage

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:47 AM

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Yeah I tried to update once and borked everything so restored and never upgraded.

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:48 AM

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if you have a current backup its probably easiest just to reinstall using the latest version 8.2 and restore your backup

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:49 AM

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From April 😢

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Anyway to grab data in this state?

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:49 AM

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what does supervisor_arch say from that os-release file?

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:49 AM

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amd64

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:51 AM

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try this:

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systemctl stop hassos-supervisor
docker pull homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3
docker tag homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3 homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:latest
docker pull ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3
docker tag ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3 ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:latest
rm /run/supervisor/startup-marker
systemctl start hassos-supervisor

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that should hopefully temporarely downgrade the supervisor

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:52 AM

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any way to enable ssh from emergency mode?

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I have no copy paste from console vm.

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:53 AM

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do you have any of the ssh addons installed?

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 12:53 AM

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Yes but is not running

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or wont run

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https://apps.microsoft.com/store/detail/type-clipboard/9P5R4JK7R8H5 I'mma try this

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You have reached your pull rate limit. wtf? That's a new one. Didn't know docker had limits

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 12:58 AM

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try with only the ghcr.io commands

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and see if that works

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if not you might want to add: docker tag ghcr.io/home-assistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3 homeassistant/amd64-hassio-supervisor:latest

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 1:08 AM

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lols okay it's super borked now. After VM POSTs I get a froze curser

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Restoring from snapshot and trying again.

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Well now that's interesting, snapshot doing the same behavior.

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Best options looks to be a new VM from aprils backups.

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Don't trust snapshots lession learned.

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 1:22 AM

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hope that works out for you

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 1:23 AM

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I haven't installed hass in like 4 years so might be back in a bit.

supple ridge Jul 7, 2022, 1:47 AM

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@midnight vapor I got the same froze cursor as you after trying the first time. I restored snapshot and tried it again, it worked the second time. Might be worth a shot

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 1:51 AM

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Okay tried two different TUTs followed and can't get it to boot right.
I get PCI errors?
https://i.imgur.com/0IbjFcl.png

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Figure that out ^ unselect pre-enroll keys.

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 3:05 AM

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storm sluice hope that works out for you

Mostly did. Thanks for your help.

midnight vapor Jul 7, 2022, 3:06 AM

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supple ridge <@454298642509987840> I got the same froze cursor as you after trying the first ...

Yeah tried it like 4 times. That VM is all sorts of messed up. Other 3 VMs were fine. Something went super wrong with that install.

light oxide Jul 7, 2022, 3:48 AM

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Came here for what I guess is the same Supervisor issue others have described. Am running on debian 10 fine for years. Broken this morning. Docker update appears to have fixed it - but have to remember to add the docker repo or it doesnt update.
Now to backup and move to HassOS ASAP.

jagged dock Jul 7, 2022, 4:00 AM

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Is mariaDB still recommended over the default SQLite DB and other than I see it recommended all over youtube, why is it?

crude inlet Jul 7, 2022, 4:10 AM

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@jagged dock it's going to be faster and better suited. Many improvements have been made so the SQLite db might be fine for you. If you think you are outgrowing it, mariadb is a good move

jagged dock Jul 7, 2022, 4:16 AM

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I only ask as I'm on a 3B+ and moved to mariaDB about 2 weeks ago and my isntall has become unstable, with containers becoming non-responsive almost daily, having to power cycle to reboot.

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Today the core update wouldn't go through, so removed MariaDB and it then worked right away. Coincidence maybe?

azure flame Jul 7, 2022, 4:28 AM

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So I got bit by the Supervisor bug today while trying to install hassos directly onto a NUC

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anyone have an idea on what to do?

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using this image: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/download/5.10/hassos_intel-nuc-5.10.img.xz

junior vortex Jul 7, 2022, 7:39 AM

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is there a way to automatically deploy ha on proxmox?

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i saw a script the other day, but that failed

exotic wyvern Jul 7, 2022, 8:05 AM

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how can i stop supervised from trying to use ipv6? i have it disabled on my network and debian host

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its really made a wreck of my network configs on the host

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 8:08 AM

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junior vortex is there a way to automatically deploy ha on proxmox?

https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/

junior vortex Jul 7, 2022, 8:19 AM

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wooden smelt https://tteck.github.io/Proxmox/

Creating HAOS VM...‼ ERROR 5@324 Unknown failure occured.

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that's why i asked 🙂

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neither the lxc or the hassos one works

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 8:24 AM

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What file system are you using? BTRFS?

junior vortex Jul 7, 2022, 8:26 AM

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zfs, i believe?

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how do i check that?

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and lvm on top of that

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 8:30 AM

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run pvesm status -content images | awk 'NR>1' in the Proxmox Shell and share the results

junior vortex Jul 7, 2022, 8:31 AM

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local-lvm lvmthin active 1311555584 196339870 1115215713 14.97%

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 8:34 AM

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No reason it shouldn't work

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it's not Pimox?

junior vortex Jul 7, 2022, 8:35 AM

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what is pimox?

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Kernel Version Linux 5.11.22-4-pve #1 SMP PVE 5.11.22-8 (Fri, 27 Aug 2021 11:51:34 +0200)
PVE Manager Version pve-manager/7.0-11/63d82f4e

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 8:36 AM

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little old

junior vortex Jul 7, 2022, 8:36 AM

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what is the correct way of updating proxmox?

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apt update ; apt upgrade ; reboot?

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 8:37 AM

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run the post install script

junior vortex Jul 7, 2022, 8:37 AM

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which one is that?

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 8:38 AM

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Proxmox VE 7 Post Install

high token Jul 7, 2022, 8:39 AM

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azure flame using this image: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/do...

that is a **very ** old version by now. We are on OS 8.2 and you're trying to install 5.10. Try with the latest image. How did you even find that one?

junior vortex Jul 7, 2022, 8:40 AM

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wooden smelt Proxmox VE 7 Post Install

i'm not sure i follow

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 8:40 AM

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from the linked repo

junior vortex Jul 7, 2022, 8:40 AM

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which linked repo?

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i have installed proxmox.. i've had it running for nearly a year

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and i have 4 vms running

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i'm not in the process of installing it

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 8:42 AM

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The script will give options to Disable the Enterprise Repo, Add/Correct PVE7 Sources, Enable the No-Subscription Repo, Add Test Repo, Disable Subscription Nag and Update Proxmox VE.

junior vortex Jul 7, 2022, 8:42 AM

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yeah, but where is that script and how do i run it?

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 8:43 AM

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@junior vortex #installation-archived message

junior vortex Jul 7, 2022, 8:44 AM

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ah!

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now we're talking

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thanks 🙂

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 8:58 AM

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@exotic wyvern find your answer?

exotic wyvern Jul 7, 2022, 9:00 AM

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@wooden smelt not at all. having a hell of a time trying to get the supervisor docker container running again. I only deleted my question as i realized i had already asked it 45 minutes prior and didnt want to spam the channel

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 9:02 AM

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settings > system > network > IPv6

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disable

exotic wyvern Jul 7, 2022, 9:03 AM

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what is that for? i already have it disabled on my debian server and its disabled on all my docker networks

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 9:04 AM

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you said that you wanted to disable IPv6 in the supervisor

exotic wyvern Jul 7, 2022, 9:06 AM

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for the supervisor. Right now i cant even get that container. I mistakenly updated to the latest version of it after being prompted in the gui and it broke everything. Right now im trying to walk back the changes and see if i can get a fresh supervisor container setup again, but not having any luck

crude inlet Jul 7, 2022, 9:06 AM

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Update docker

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<#general-archived message>

exotic wyvern Jul 7, 2022, 9:16 AM

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thanks. read the fun snarky responses about supervised as well.

brave hawk Jul 7, 2022, 11:34 AM

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Hi Hi my HA died this morning ..its Home Assistant Operating System. on RPI4....when i logging on screen there is only:
[WARN] Home Assistant CLI is not running! Jump into emergency console…

Now i've managed to bring hassos-cli up...what to do next ?..

austere isle Jul 7, 2022, 11:42 AM

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crude inlet Update docker

thanks for your input yesterday about running containers for HA and plugins , I have a NUC that i want to run HA and Plex on and Supervised was the recommended path back then ... after yesterday's scramble maybe it is time to revisit the installation , Can someone tell me what is the preferred way to run HA on Intel NUC ?

runic mango Jul 7, 2022, 11:42 AM

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brave hawk Hi Hi my HA died this morning ..its Home Assistant Operating System. on RPI4.......

Not sure if this will help but try this thread - https://community.home-assistant.io/t/warn-home-assistant-cli-is-not-running-jump-into-emergency-console/303548/8

rain orbit Jul 7, 2022, 12:44 PM

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hi i am new to home assistant

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i can acces home assistant on my pi via my computer that is connected via a wire to my network

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but i cant acces it via wifi

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can somebody help

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pls

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 12:46 PM

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That sounds like maybe you have client isolation enabled on your WiFi router/AP/whatever

wooden smelt Jul 7, 2022, 12:58 PM

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austere isle thanks for your input yesterday about running containers for HA and plugins , I ...

Can someone tell me what is the preferred way to run HA on Intel NUC ?
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/installing-home-assistant-os-using-proxmox-7/201835
as for Plex
#installation-archived message

rain orbit Jul 7, 2022, 1:30 PM

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humble mirage That sounds like _maybe_ you have _client isolation_ enabled on your WiFi router...

my father told me the same but wouldnt disable it ill try and convince him again

exotic laurel Jul 7, 2022, 1:45 PM

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So, I've just installed HAOS onto an old asus laptop, and it's booted up. but I can't access it from my desktop. I have an ethernet cable connecting it to the network, but it's not showing up on the router's connected devices list. When I run ha net info, it doesn't list any interfaces, and lists a docker address. Am I missing something?

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 2:05 PM

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rain orbit my father told me the same but wouldnt disable it ill try and convince him again

Well, it sounds like you know the problem, the only solution is disabling it...

rocky yew Jul 7, 2022, 3:01 PM

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hi, i'm running HAOS-64bit on a raspberry Pi 4 with a 32Gb SD-card but the card is only for 16Mb used how can i increase the size because i'm getting out of memory atm.

crude inlet Jul 7, 2022, 3:02 PM

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The space is allocated during setup. Where are you seeing this?

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 3:02 PM

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I believe I have recent common issue with an update to home assistant and now home assistant is not booting. I have read in the forums that I need to update docker from v19 to v20 using apt-update. I can't reach hass via ssh or web so I am at the local console. But this is not a normal shell so things like sudo and apt don't work. How do I 'break out' to a normal shell. Or is there another recommended resolution? https://ibb.co/C9tvMG5

crude inlet Jul 7, 2022, 3:03 PM

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@frosty quartz that issue is for "supervised" installations and you wouldn't update docker yourself on a HAOS installation

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So this does not fit with the console you are seeing. Sounds like HAOS and not another OS

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 3:04 PM

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Correct. I am not running a custom os.

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It is 5.13 , I beleive

crude inlet Jul 7, 2022, 3:05 PM

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That is an old version of the OS

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 3:05 PM

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Agree

crude inlet Jul 7, 2022, 3:05 PM

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You can use the console to try to update it

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ha os update

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 3:06 PM

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Ok thx

rocky yew Jul 7, 2022, 3:06 PM

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crude inlet The space is allocated during setup. Where are you seeing this?

under system -> System Health -> hassio i see: Disk Total 14.1 GB

high token Jul 7, 2022, 3:08 PM

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frosty quartz It is 5.13 , I beleive

As far as I know though people haven't been able to go directly to 8.x from such an old version

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you might need to update to intermediate versions first

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ha os update --version 6.0 for example then 7 then 8

crude inlet Jul 7, 2022, 3:08 PM

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True. That'll need to be done in steps

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I think 6 then 7 even

high token Jul 7, 2022, 3:09 PM

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Yeah indeed edited it 😄

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 3:10 PM

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Ok that makes sense. There was an issue after 5.13 with external SSD on rpi so I was scared to update beyond 5.13, but I'm already having an issue so it's time to take the risk

high token Jul 7, 2022, 3:11 PM

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As long as you have a recent backup made and downloaded off HA, there's nothing to worry about

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 3:11 PM

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I do

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Daily backups

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...on a sep nas

high token Jul 7, 2022, 3:11 PM

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Then all good 🙂

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||in theory 😛 ||

rocky yew Jul 7, 2022, 3:32 PM

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rocky yew under `system -> System Health -> hassio` i see: Disk Total 14.1 GB

Oeps, there is just a 16GB SD-card inserted, not a 32 GB

bronze anvil Jul 7, 2022, 3:42 PM

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I'm getting a number of filesystem errors. Using x86 HAOS. Is there a way to do a fsck? I read a couple of thread and no matter what services I stop I always get "filesystem busy". I also looked for a way to do a fsck on boot but could not find anything. It's a SSD drive.

worn hedge Jul 7, 2022, 4:53 PM

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Hello. I am running a HASSIO VM under Virtualbox on Win 10. After a reboot, I can no longer connect to the web interface at all. The network is up and I can ping the host IP, but my only access into the system is via the console. On the console I get the "Home Assistant CLI is not running! Jump into emergency console..." message, and none of what I have been able to find in google helps. Due to illness this install has been neglected for some time, and is surely way out of date. I can't even figure out where to begin. How do I begin figuring this out?

cedar oracle Jul 7, 2022, 5:09 PM

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Good morning. i have a pi4 running an SSD via a very old method like 4 years ago (so old I'm not even sure how I did it back then). I believe the essential files run on sd card still but all the rest runs on the SSD. Anyway I recently saw an update and I believe it was 2022.6.7 and I thought I updated it. I couldn't see the new 2022.7 update so I rebooted the pi. Now it won't come online via interernal or external IP but I can SSH in to the raspbian OS. Can anyone help?

crude inlet Jul 7, 2022, 5:09 PM

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@worn hedge create a new VM using the latest images and restore a backup?

worn hedge Jul 7, 2022, 5:10 PM

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Good thought. Do older backups typically work with newer versions?

crude inlet Jul 7, 2022, 5:10 PM

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the backups are of your HA config and the addons you have, along with their configuration.

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That would be fine

bronze anvil Jul 7, 2022, 5:12 PM

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bronze anvil I'm getting a number of filesystem errors. Using x86 HAOS. Is there a way to do ...

To reply to my own message, I found an answer:
From console:

systemctl isolate rescue.target
systemctl stop systemd-journald
umount -A /dev/disk/by-label/hassos-data
fsck.ext4 /dev/disk/by-label/hassos-data

Source: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/1426#issuecomment-865088023

rain orbit Jul 7, 2022, 5:13 PM

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I ve managed to connect a esp32 Is there a way to have many esps connectés to différent

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WiFi Routers that are connectés to thé sam network

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?

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 5:16 PM

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That's more a topic for #diy-archived or the ESPHome or Tasmota Discord servers

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It's got nothing to do with installing HA

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 6:00 PM

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are there any common issues with new hassio updates? my dockers stopped working tonight

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 6:11 PM

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Do you mean Home Assistant OS?

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There's been issues with Supervised installs, but not generically HAOS

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 6:46 PM

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i believe supervisor 2022.06.x requires a newer docker version , you might end up with an unusable system if you are on an old os release and update to that. There were a number of people yesterday with that problem

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 6:55 PM

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high token you might need to update to intermediate versions first

So I just tried this and I get "error response from daemon: Container b415...[many numbers] is not running

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 7:01 PM

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wind acorn are there any common issues with new hassio updates? my dockers stopped working ...

Same and I am on haos. I have a. Old haos which as mgolisch eludes too below is likely the issue

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:03 PM

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i think i have hassio

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 7:03 PM

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Yes same

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:03 PM

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strange issue, it started last night

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i didnt update it or anything i only rebooted my VM

abstract hearthBOT Jul 7, 2022, 7:04 PM

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Hass.io was the old name for the appliance like install option, that uses Docker. It was renamed in January 2020 and is now called Home Assistant OS.

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:04 PM

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It hasn't been called Hassio in about 2 and a half years...

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:04 PM

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wow 😄 times fly

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:04 PM

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If your install is from then, and you've not updated it since, you're way out of date

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:04 PM

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i have updated it

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last time was in mars

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:05 PM

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But have you updated HAOS?

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Because way back when was a different OS

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:05 PM

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you mean debian?

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or

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:05 PM

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No, HAOS/Hassio use an embedded OS

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If you have Debian then you're not running HAOS/Hassio

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:06 PM

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i think i run debian

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:06 PM

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Debian would mean Supervised, which means you fell for the trap

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:06 PM

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debian with docker containers

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:07 PM

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Do you have add-ons?

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:07 PM

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yes

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deconz etc etc

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:07 PM

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Then you screwed up and used the Supervised installer

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That means you have to ensure that your host is kept fully updated, in line with the requirements

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:07 PM

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what should you use that for?

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:07 PM

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You shouldn't

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It's a trap

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:07 PM

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why is it on the homepage :d

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like first pick when i installed it

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:07 PM

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It's under a stack of warnings, that people ignore

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It used to only have a bunch of warnings, but more were added after people kept ignoring them

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:08 PM

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but why would it stop work tonight?

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:08 PM

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Time to fully update your OS, and update all packages - particularly Docker

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There was a Supervisor update, and old versions of Docker no longer work

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If you'd been keeping updated you'd not have noticed

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:09 PM

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i did see those threads on github issues

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i did update my docker and still had issues

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:09 PM

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Grab a backup, install HAOS instead, get back up and running?

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:09 PM

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my backup was from mars

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so im trying to get it working again because i installed some lamps after it

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:11 PM

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Hopefully somebody can get you up and running, but the standard fix so far has been to update Docker

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Assuming you're on Bullseye

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:11 PM

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i can be on 9

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need to check after my restore

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progress 88% (read 47244640256 bytes, duration 4267 sec)
progress 89% (read 47781511168 bytes, duration 4312 sec)

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:11 PM

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Well, if you're not on Bullseye, you screwed up

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Supervised has required Bullseye for months now

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:11 PM

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i guess i can upgrade then XD

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:12 PM

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August, last year in fact

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:12 PM

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but i have restarted it 2 times since Mars

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no issues at all

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:12 PM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/architecture/blob/master/adr/0014-home-assistant-supervised.md

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Because you got lucky

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:12 PM

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and now without any updates added it stopped working

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wtf .D?

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:D?

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:12 PM

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#installation-archived message

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:13 PM

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atleast iknow the issue 100% now

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will try to get it up or revert to an old backup

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:13 PM

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An old backup won't help, since the Supervisor will auto-update

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:14 PM

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wtf autoupdate shit

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hate it

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re-stored after cutting network to the VM?

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should work

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:15 PM

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And then how are you going to update the OS and Docker?

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:16 PM

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i have 2 picks

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restore my VM from mars without internet access and grab backups

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or try update my VM to debian 11

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http://ss.hjelm.pw/notepad_2022-07-07_21-17-36.png

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:17 PM

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You need to update it to Bullseye anyway

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:17 PM

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ye

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:17 PM

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#installation-archived message

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:17 PM

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i will

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but its still fucked up that it updates randomly without me wanting it to update

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:19 PM

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The Supervisor updates automatically, and by picking that method you agreed to keep your system updated in compliance with the requirements

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That you clicked through all that and ignored it ... shrug

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 7:19 PM

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yeah thats unfortunate but then again hasos is meant as an appliance, just have regular backups and if something breaks just reinstall with latest version and restore your backup

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:19 PM

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it says Linux hassio

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so i guess i have that

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based on debian

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Description: Debian GNU/Linux 9.13 (stretch)

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oh well, lets update and test it 🙂

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ty everyone

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:20 PM

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Yeah, you've been out of compliance for years now ablobjoy

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:21 PM

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haha yes 😄

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 7:25 PM

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then again it seems the same problem exist for hasos

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:33 PM

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)

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one step closer 😉

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 7:34 PM

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How do I update haos from 5.13 to something newer so that I can get myself out of this hole?

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https://ibb.co/C9tvMG5

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This is what I see on the console. No web or ssh access

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I do have backups saved separately

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:41 PM

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Flash a fresh HAOS image

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:44 PM

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@humble mirage 😦

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:44 PM

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@wind acorn

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@wind acorn

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@wind acorn ?

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:44 PM

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i love you

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im on bullseye in 2minutes i hope it works out 😄

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:45 PM

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If it doesn't, it's not too late to move to HAOS

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:45 PM

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i bet i cant get my old configs out from my old hassio install :D?

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a fresh one

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:45 PM

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Backups work

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:46 PM

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oh ok

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maybe deconz backup wont work

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because its addon

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:46 PM

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Backups include add-ons

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:46 PM

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oh ok

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even if that one docker is down?

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deconz docker wont start

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:47 PM

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shrug

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:47 PM

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😂

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:47 PM

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I'd expect so, it's just files

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But, you should have tested your backups before

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:47 PM

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but if it works now i should still move to haos?

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:47 PM

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Yes

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That you left your OS to rot shows that you shouldn't be running Supervised

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:48 PM

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dont fix something that arent broken and localy :D?

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Well, by not "fixing" it, you broke it

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Operating System: Debian GNU/Linux 11 (bullseye)
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😍

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lets see if it boots up hassio now

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:49 PM

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Now, please read the requirements that you've been ignoring, and ensure you're actually complying

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You don't have hassio either 😉

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:49 PM

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yeye 😄 hassoS?

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:49 PM

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No

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You have Supervised

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:50 PM

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Linux hassio 5.10.0-13-amd64 #1 SMP Debian 5.10.106-1 (2022-03-17) x86_64 GNU/Linux
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humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:50 PM

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Hassio became HAOS, you don't have that

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You have the bastard install method from hell

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 7:50 PM

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;D:

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seems like its re-creating itself every 5 seconds

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http://ss.hjelm.pw/putty_2022-07-07_21-51-29.png

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 7:52 PM

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humble mirage Flash a fresh HAOS image

How do I do that? It's been a long time since I've need to flash this rpi physically. I have an external SSD connected via USB so it's not as simple as flashing a micro SD card

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:52 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi#install-home-assistant-operating-system

cedar oracle Jul 7, 2022, 7:53 PM

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Can anyone help me get my HA running again? I can SSH into the Raspbian image on the pi4 but I don't know what to do from there. internal and external access isn't working

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:53 PM

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Do you have add-ons?

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Or are you using either pure Docker (Container) or pip (Core)?

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@cedar oracle ☝️

cedar oracle Jul 7, 2022, 7:57 PM

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humble mirage Or are you using either pure Docker (Container) or `pip` (Core)?

I installed HA like 4 years ago on this pi4 and did a SD card hack where the base OS ran on SD and I did something whre the rest ran on the SSD. I don't even know how to answer you questions.

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``pi@raspberrypi:~ $ cat /etc/os-release
PRETTY_NAME="Raspbian GNU/Linux 10 (buster)"
NAME="Raspbian GNU/Linux"
VERSION_ID="10"
VERSION="10 (buster)"
VERSION_CODENAME=buster
ID=raspbian
ID_LIKE=debian
HOME_URL="http://www.raspbian.org/"

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 7:57 PM

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Did you have add-ons?

cedar oracle Jul 7, 2022, 7:58 PM

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Yes lots

storm sluice Jul 7, 2022, 7:58 PM

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wind acorn seems like its re-creating itself every 5 seconds

https://github.com/home-assistant/supervisor/issues/3692 maybe try updating docker or just reinstall supervised using the latest script from github

cedar oracle Jul 7, 2022, 7:58 PM

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duck dns, mosquitto, zwave js etc

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 8:00 PM

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Well, then you (too) have the problem that you're running an unsupported, broken, Supervised install

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Supervised isn't supported on Raspbian

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It's also not supported on Debian Buster, even if you were on Debian

cedar oracle Jul 7, 2022, 8:01 PM

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so a wipe and fresh install is where I'm at?

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 8:01 PM

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https://github.com/home-assistant/architecture/blob/master/adr/0014-home-assistant-supervised.md

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Wipe, and fresh install of HAOS

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Then you can use the datactl command to move all the data to the SSD

cedar oracle Jul 7, 2022, 8:02 PM

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I probably should have moved this way a long time ago but when everything works why mess w/ it.. Will I have to re-add all my zwave stuff manually again or will it recognize the pairing to the same usb stick and auto populate?

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 8:03 PM

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By restoring a backup it should all be there

high token Jul 7, 2022, 8:03 PM

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frosty quartz How do I do that? It's been a long time since I've need to flash this rpi physi...

Do just that. Flash the SSD like it was an SD card. Plug in on USB3.0, and see if ti boots or not

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If it does just restore from snapshot
if not, you can find an SD card to flash that and do the datadisk move

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 8:03 PM

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@humble mirage

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 8:04 PM

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@wind acorn

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 8:04 PM

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everything back and working now, thank you mate

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😍

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 8:04 PM

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Now... ensure you keep it current in the future

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 8:04 PM

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yes sir

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 8:04 PM

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And, better, plan a move to HAOS 😉

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 8:04 PM

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will move to HAOS asap

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 8:06 PM

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high token If it does just restore from snapshot if not, you can find an SD card to flash t...

Assuming you mean backup when you say snapshot?

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Are backups os dependent? (Since I've been running on an old one)

high token Jul 7, 2022, 8:07 PM

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no hint of OS included

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Ah yes old habits die hard

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backups are hardware agnostic even

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can go from Pi to VM and anywhere inbetween

wind acorn Jul 7, 2022, 8:08 PM

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backing mine up now INFO: 6% (3.0 GiB of 50.0 GiB) in 2m 1s, read: 32.2 MiB/s, write: 32.2 MiB/s

floral spoke Jul 7, 2022, 8:24 PM

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Hi there im a noob and could really use some assitant with installing on external ssd any help would be most appreciated thank you 🙂

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 8:26 PM

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I just used balena etcher to flash home assistsnt to an external USB. Plugged it into pi and it booted home assistant

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USB SSD*

floral spoke Jul 7, 2022, 8:31 PM

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i kind of got lost with trying to download the Raspberry Pi OS imager

high token Jul 7, 2022, 8:33 PM

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that one is also a possibility yes

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You have an Rpi4?

floral spoke Jul 7, 2022, 8:34 PM

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yes i do

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and im using a Mac as my persunal computer

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personal

high token Jul 7, 2022, 8:36 PM

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To be in the safe side I'd first update the bootloader on the pi with the Pi OS imager

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(misc utility images --> Bootloader --> USB boot)

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flashed to an sd card --> SD card on the pi --> boot --> wait a minute or two --> done (green screen if monitor plugged in)

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then flash HAOS onto the SSD and boot the Pi (no SD card in Pi anymore)

cedar oracle Jul 7, 2022, 8:41 PM

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I freshly installed HAOS now on my pi4. Trying to login via SSH and connection refused.

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 8:42 PM

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You have to install and configure the SSH #add-ons-archived

cedar oracle Jul 7, 2022, 8:44 PM

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its been so long.. wow.

floral spoke Jul 7, 2022, 8:44 PM

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Thanasis thank you but you are using terms that im not familiar with ....sorry if i didnt explained my self right i am trying to install from scratch and i guess i need moe "hand in hand" guidness

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more

dawn sage Jul 7, 2022, 8:52 PM

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My home assistant was not updated for years and now it will not load the supervisor page. I cannot ssh and forgot how to access it through my linux docker. Could anyone help me through this I am in a bind and would appreciate it.

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 8:53 PM

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I'm guessing you too use the Supervised installer?

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Make sure to update the OS to Debian Bullseye, and then update all packages - particularly Docker

dawn sage Jul 7, 2022, 8:55 PM

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okay i will attempt to do that, i only learned linux to install it. I forgot everything now.

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 8:55 PM

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You really shouldn't be using Supervised then

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Grab your backup, flash HAOS, and save yourself pain

dawn sage Jul 7, 2022, 8:55 PM

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I know, i did this like 5 years ago

humble mirage Jul 7, 2022, 8:56 PM

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Even then it came with warnings...

high token Jul 7, 2022, 8:56 PM

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floral spoke Thanasis thank you but you are using terms that im not familiar with ....sorry i...

Try like documented here perhaps with Balena instead. Just use the SSD instead of the SD card. If it works all good. If it doesn't we see then

dawn sage Jul 7, 2022, 8:56 PM

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okay my bad then i was experminetning, next time i will do haos and do more stability

floral spoke Jul 7, 2022, 8:57 PM

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@high token thank you i will try

dawn flame Jul 7, 2022, 9:30 PM

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humble mirage Even then it came with warnings...

Why does everyone want to run supervised???

grand pivot Jul 7, 2022, 9:36 PM

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They don't understand it and think it's something other than it is

dawn sage Jul 7, 2022, 9:36 PM

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I am not sure if I can update my containers, because all of my stuff is outdated, so if i update it will break everything

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You guys have to also understand things were different 5-6 years ago. There were a lot of versions and things werent as streamlined

grand pivot Jul 7, 2022, 9:43 PM

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Sure, but it's been 2 years since the Supervised requirements were established

dawn sage Jul 7, 2022, 9:45 PM

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i have been lax, i was hoping that was one of the strengths of ha, set it and forget it since its separate. But i guess i see now i do have to keep it up to date

golden walrus Jul 7, 2022, 9:53 PM

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i have a setup running on a RPi3 off SD. I plan to migrate to a RPi4 w/ SSD tomorrow. what's the best way to go? Clean new install and then use a backup to restore? Should i do a "full" backup?

rocky yew Jul 7, 2022, 10:33 PM

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that sounds as how i should do it as well.

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how could i enable a cooling fan that i have installed on my HAOS running on my Pi4?

brazen herald Jul 7, 2022, 10:59 PM

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golden walrus i have a setup running on a RPi3 off SD. I plan to migrate to a RPi4 w/ SSD tomo...

Yup. Depending on the size of your backup you may need to set it up, install the Samba add on (or similar), transfer over your backup and then restore that.

brazen herald Jul 7, 2022, 11:00 PM

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rocky yew how could i enable a cooling fan that i have installed on my HAOS running on my ...

https://hacs.xyz/docs/repositories/integration/thecode_ha_rpi_gpio

frosty quartz Jul 7, 2022, 11:37 PM

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high token If it does just restore from snapshot if not, you can find an SD card to flash t...

So I flashed latest, booted then uploaded last backup to hass via web. web disconnected and now doesn't respond. How long does the restore take?

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The console looks different. Is there some trouble shooting I can do there?

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Ok I tried ha supervisor restart and that seemed to do the trick

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:12 AM

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@frosty quartz all good then?

frosty quartz Jul 8, 2022, 12:19 AM

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high token <@746852985828671518> all good then?

Yes, thx for your guidance

sacred quiver Jul 8, 2022, 3:13 AM

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Whenever I try to update to Home Assistant 2022.7.0, I get 'The system cannot restart because the configuration is not valid: Unexpected error calling config validator:', any ideas?

crude inlet Jul 8, 2022, 3:53 AM

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@sacred quiver bad configuration.yaml edit?

trail pike Jul 8, 2022, 4:02 AM

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(Please ping me when helping me)
I'm guessing that this goes here...
So after HA core the other day, I couldn't get HA to get an IP address, restarted HA several times and even tried restarting proxmox which is what it is being hosted on, that didn't work either...
A few days later, I went on a 2 day trip, so I turned the server and my pc entirely (to save power) and I booted it back up and now it was able to connect to my network again... I don't understand why, but ok that's just tech sometimes...

But, the reason I am posing, now for some reason "http://homeassistant.local:8123/" isn't working to access home assistant but using the local ip directly does work... Anyone know why this is?

rocky yew Jul 8, 2022, 6:47 AM

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frosty quartz So I flashed latest, booted then uploaded last backup to hass via web. web disc...

i was using the rpi_gpio_pwm HACS integration but it stopped working after upgrading and now i get the following error.

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humble mirage Jul 8, 2022, 7:39 AM

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I'd expect you can ignore that

sage swan Jul 8, 2022, 7:42 AM

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Thanks, all went well 🙂 Even though my pulse was high waiting during the update :D:D

devout lotus Jul 8, 2022, 8:21 AM

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Hi all, suddenly my rpi with HaOS isn't getting its ip anymore. Don't have micro hdmi cable so can't check what's happening. But zigbee is still functioning with ZHA so it is booting fine. Is there a way to set a static ip through the boot config on the SD card?

cedar oracle Jul 8, 2022, 10:58 AM

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I have my pi4 running again after formatting and installing HAOS. I have a ssd plugged in usb and I want to try datactl command but the drive isn't showing mounted. I'm not very good at linux/unix can someone help me find and mount it and run that command

high token Jul 8, 2022, 10:59 AM

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was anything on the SSD before?

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to be clear you currently have HAOS on the SD card

cedar oracle Jul 8, 2022, 11:00 AM

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yes I have HAOS on the SD. did with Balena Etcher yesterday. Yes there is junk on the ssd from my previous HA install that was unsupervised but I don't need any of that data

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I see something in /dev/sda /dev/sda1 but they're not directories

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at least sda and sda1 aren't directories

high token Jul 8, 2022, 11:01 AM

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potentially it's seeing you have a previous HA partition on the SSD

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it prevents you in that case so to not accidentally override a HA installation

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just need to wipe the SSD first

cedar oracle Jul 8, 2022, 11:02 AM

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ok. attempt that from ssh or easier to just bring it to laptop here.

high token Jul 8, 2022, 11:02 AM

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For you probably easiest to just use balena and flash something that isn't HA on it

cedar oracle Jul 8, 2022, 11:09 AM

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wiped it.. plugged it back in.. see just /dev/sda now .. need to mount it I guess

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though I'm out of my league now.. not sure how or what to do

high token Jul 8, 2022, 11:10 AM

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You can do it from the UI! 😄

cedar oracle Jul 8, 2022, 11:11 AM

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no way

high token Jul 8, 2022, 11:11 AM

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yes way 😛

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Under Hardware on the 3 dots ( I believe)

cedar oracle Jul 8, 2022, 11:11 AM

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yep under storage

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move datadisk?

high token Jul 8, 2022, 11:11 AM

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Ah storage yes

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yeap

cedar oracle Jul 8, 2022, 11:11 AM

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omg mind blown

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this was such a hack together from like 4 years ago when I originally ran a pi3 with ssd. so much has changed with onboarding

high token Jul 8, 2022, 11:12 AM

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should have seen trying to do SSD boot on the rpi4 a few years back. at least with rpi4 you get the USB speeds too

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cedar oracle Jul 8, 2022, 11:14 AM

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high token should have seen trying to do SSD boot on the rpi4 a few years back. at least wi...

Yes I remember when the pi4 came out and the bootloader from pi institute didnt' even have the ability baked into the firmware. My pi4 probably still doesn't

humble mirage Jul 8, 2022, 11:15 AM

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abstract hearth

The package requires the Cargo feature called edition2021, but that feature is not stabilized in this version of Cargo (1.55.0).
Looks like you need a different (newer?) Cargo version

arctic bronze Jul 8, 2022, 11:15 AM

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humble mirage > The package requires the Cargo feature called `edition2021`, but that feature ...

How do I update / install new Cargo version?

humble mirage Jul 8, 2022, 11:16 AM

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However TrueNAS Core manages that

arctic bronze Jul 8, 2022, 11:16 AM

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humble mirage However TrueNAS Core manages that

Ough

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:09 PM

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hello folks
I was wondering how i can install a specific image that contains core version 2022.5.5 ??

humble mirage Jul 8, 2022, 12:10 PM

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https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#run-a-specific-version

(and please don't crosspost)

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:10 PM

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thank you and forgive me

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this is exactly what I did, but it gives many errors (clean install)

abstract hearthBOT Jul 8, 2022, 12:11 PM

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Please don't say I have an error or describe an error. Share the whole actual error message so we can help you.

humble mirage Jul 8, 2022, 12:11 PM

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Remember to use a code share site if it's over a dozen lines

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:12 PM

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when install specific version 2022.5.5 (After clean install 2022.7.1)

devout lotus Jul 8, 2022, 12:13 PM

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devout lotus Hi all, suddenly my rpi with HaOS isn't getting its ip anymore. Don't have micro...

Anybody who knows?

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:14 PM

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I get the following errors

[548219213136] Received invalid command: energy/get_prefs
Setup failed for raspberry_pi: Integration not found.
This zigpy release uses database schema v8 but the database is v9. Downgrading zigpy is not recommended and may result in data loss. Use at your own risk.
<QueueManager> Repository structure for 0.0.3 is not compliant

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:14 PM

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what's the reason for wanting to downgrade?

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those are HA Core errors. Updating/Downgrading is handled by Supervisor. You need to look at those errors

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At least I'm understanding you are saying the command is not working or?

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:16 PM

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because I have a very stable setup with this version

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:17 PM

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Ideally you'll want to slowly update one small version at a time and work through the errors

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so you did ha core update --version=2022.5.5 but it errors?

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:18 PM

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devout lotus Anybody who knows?

It's a bit trickier but theoretically can have the right file in a USB drive that HAOS will read on boot

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https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/blob/dev/Documentation/network.md#manual-network-configuration

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:20 PM

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high token so you did `ha core update --version=2022.5.5` but it errors?

yes, as soon as I did ha core updater --version 2022.5.5 many integrations throw errors

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:21 PM

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but HA did go to version 2022.5.5? I don't understand if you mean it won't downgrade or that it does downgrade but it has errors

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:21 PM

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(such as zigbee home automation, raspberry pri, energy, queee manager)

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:21 PM

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high token but HA did go to version 2022.5.5? I don't understand if you mean it won't downg...

sorry Thanasis, it did downgrade to version 2022.5.5 but after restart integrations throw errors

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updating to 2022.6.0

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:22 PM

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where the errors that bad in later version?

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:22 PM

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(this is as far as I can go )

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:22 PM

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and after 6.0? What happens?

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:23 PM

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after 6.0 I have big problems with a custom component which I use a lot

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and I don't want to loose it (alexia media player)

humble mirage Jul 8, 2022, 12:23 PM

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Have you reported the issues to the developer?

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:24 PM

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I have about 200 TTS automations playing among 6 alexa

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:25 PM

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humble mirage Have you reported the issues to the developer?

yes, but some issues are not solved yet.

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https://github.com/custom-components/alexa_media_player/issues

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many users have the problem with "reauthenticate"

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:27 PM

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I have Alexa but no such issues

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:28 PM

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high token I have Alexa but no such issues

thanasis, what core version?? do you use alexa for TTS ??

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:28 PM

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maybe you're not using the right authentication method?

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Occasionally some TTS

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It will ask me maybe to authenticate once every few months or so

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:28 PM

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there is not way

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you haven't update custom component

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:29 PM

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Everything is on latest versions

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:29 PM

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https://github.com/custom-components/alexa_media_player/releases
as per version 4.0.0 legacy login has been removed

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:29 PM

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yeah because legacy was the one to cause the most issues

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build in 2FA usually worked best

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:30 PM

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never had problem with legacy

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(am using 2FA too)

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:32 PM

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you mean it logs you out or the error with the multiple reauthentication messages?

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:33 PM

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i need to re-login every hour

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I think it is related to the number of the api requests I make every day

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:35 PM

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Oh because of your so many TTS right

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Sell 6 Echos and buy 6 Google Homes 😛

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:36 PM

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high token Oh because of your so many TTS right

exactly!! Just to double check it, I disabled some automation, which caused to have less TTS requests and didn't have such a problem

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:36 PM

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high token Sell 6 Echos and buy 6 Google Homes 😛

I'm thinking of it ....
but we love Alexa .....

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(alexa family - sorry)

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thanasis, is this the right place to ask about hassio-cli won't start, jump to emergency mode ????

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:41 PM

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Yes

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it does happen sometimes on boot if it's too fast

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:42 PM

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this happended to another instance I am running, after last update

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after reboot I was getting "hassio-cli won't start, jump to emergency mode"

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many containers had no started

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and hassio-supervisor was missing

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** don't worry because I already re installed 😦

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what I want to know is if there is a way to export HA configuration on such a scenario ?

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are you with me ?

crude inlet Jul 8, 2022, 12:45 PM

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What do you want to know about it?

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:46 PM

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crude inlet What do you want to know about it?

what I want to know is if there is a way to export HA configuration at emergency mode ?

crude inlet Jul 8, 2022, 12:47 PM

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Emergency mode is just the host console

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You have access to the host system and the files are at /mnt/data/supervisor/

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How you get them off of there is up to you.

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:48 PM

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ok - let me rephrase the question
on which container the configuration is stored ???

crude inlet Jul 8, 2022, 12:48 PM

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All containers put their files somewhere

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Not in the containers. Containers only exists when they are running

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I explained where the configuration is stored above

placid sage Jul 8, 2022, 12:50 PM

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ok

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now is too late - everything was reinstalled 🙂

high token Jul 8, 2022, 12:50 PM

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Ideally you'd be regularly making backups and downloading them off the HA hardware

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many addons can do this

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so you wouldn't care if HA dies on you with the config stuck inside it

jade spade Jul 8, 2022, 4:27 PM

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Anyone noticed big RAM usage after todays upgrade?

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Could be related to MariaDB upgrade I did early today.

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Did full server restart. Kind of got spooked as Zigbe2Mqtt didn't start at first.

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Now it seems to be stable.

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Can not paste images here to show you.

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Uploaded here: https://gcdnb.pbrd.co/images/pBia7YuDD6Sv.png?o=1

high token Jul 8, 2022, 4:40 PM

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The proxmox RAM usage reports always near maximum to what you allocate

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doesn't mean HA is actively using all of that

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https://imgur.com/a/VpWCV4u

crude inlet Jul 8, 2022, 5:34 PM

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This happens every time you install it?

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You're doing something wrong.

reef breach Jul 8, 2022, 6:02 PM

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Having issues with HAos on a RPi 3. Stuck at Preparing and checking the supervisor logs nothing jumps out at me.

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Can ping the internet, not undervolting, seems okay.

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Manually flashed SD card with
cat image.img.xz | xz -d | dd of=$blkDev
Instead of the suggested tool, however.

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I did follow some instructions to change the DNS, but it was pinging the outside just fine.

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Gonna try a reflash. Maybe bungled something.

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Seems a bit more active now. Looked away and it rebooted. I suspect it grew the SDcard

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Now back at the same couple of lines in the supervisor logs. Observer is green.

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No errors, no warnings aside from IPv6 not being available.

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Seems like I'm a haOS version behind. Gonna try the latest from the GitHub.

high token Jul 8, 2022, 6:50 PM

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one minor or one major behind? 😅

reef breach Jul 8, 2022, 6:57 PM

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Minor. I was watching top to just stare at for ideas until the CPU flared up. Looks like it's doing something all of a sudden.

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Oh. Cool. I was just impatient. It's working now.

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Wouldn't be a bad idea to show more stuff in the logs to indicate progress for people like myself thinking they did something wrong.

high token Jul 8, 2022, 7:01 PM

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There is the downloading image and installing part that shows

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even more than that?

modest lake Jul 8, 2022, 7:08 PM

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Since HA 2022.6 I have an error at every restart:

2022-07-08 20:51:53 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.core] Unable to remove unknown job listener _FilterableJob(job=<Job HassJobType.Callback <function async_setup_entry.<locals>.async_finish_startup at 0x7f2c27d9c1f0>>, event_filter=None, run_immediately=False)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/core.py", line 1038, in _async_remove_listener
    self._listeners[event_type].remove(filterable_job)
KeyError: 'homeassistant_started'

I haven't noticed any problems, it is just looking bad in the log and I can't find any tips on Google or in the forums.
Suggestions?

reef breach Jul 8, 2022, 7:55 PM

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high token There is the downloading image and installing part that shows

The user facing 'Preparing' page has that pulsing button. Showing the logs you'll just see it paused on some system check finishing for a long, long while.

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But, eventually it'll continue. I was assuming "No progress for a while, start investigating"

golden walrus Jul 8, 2022, 8:38 PM

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Hi all, im in the process of migrating from a RPi3 to RPi4. I made backups (both partial and full) of the old system. I booted the new RPi4 with fresh HAOS image. I'm at the onboarding screen. I select to restore from backup and selected my partial backup and checked the two boxes, but not the HA core. I can browse to the backup file and click restore, it asks if im sure i want to restore, i say yes, but then nothing happens. No confirmation or message or anything. ?

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also, im using backups, not snapshots. what's the difference?

humble mirage Jul 8, 2022, 8:42 PM

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Snapshots are the old name for backups

golden walrus Jul 8, 2022, 8:44 PM

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oh i see, that's good to know. ive been stressing not having snapshots

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still, nothing is happening wiht the backup

golden walrus Jul 8, 2022, 9:16 PM

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30min now :/

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think i should jsut create the account and let it setup and then try to restore from a backup? is that possible?

crude inlet Jul 8, 2022, 9:17 PM

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That was the only way previously

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So yes it's possible

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Why would it not be possible? You can only ever restore a backup during a fresh install?

golden walrus Jul 8, 2022, 9:21 PM

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you know what they say about assuming

vast vortex Jul 8, 2022, 9:22 PM

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Guys, I have installed Proxmox on my computer and HA on VM. I need to add storage with data to HA so what is the best way to do that with this environment?

golden walrus Jul 8, 2022, 9:23 PM

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i have a feeling this is some kind of web browser cache issue. seems to be the case 90% of the time

golden walrus Jul 8, 2022, 9:45 PM

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well, i made an account. some old add-ins are here.. like zigbee2mqtt.. but it doesn twork. terminal and file editor are also there

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my dashboard is gone

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z2m isnt working

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configuration.yaml is default/empty

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wtf

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can ij ust start copying contents of yaml files or is this too borked?

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@crude inlet any ideas?

crude inlet Jul 8, 2022, 9:56 PM

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You started over and made an account?

golden walrus Jul 8, 2022, 9:57 PM

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it seemed the restore option at the onboarding screen wasnt working. i. gave it 30+min and its a fresh small system. so i just created the account

crude inlet Jul 8, 2022, 9:57 PM

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What do the supervisor logs show?

storm sluice Jul 8, 2022, 9:57 PM

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it should show if the restore finished

golden walrus Jul 8, 2022, 9:58 PM

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Error on load tts: be5b786677c817d41b48be2948586245f1bb197b_en_-_google_translate not in cache!5:43:45 PM – (ERROR) Text-to-Speech (TTS) - message first occurred at 5:19:29 PM and shows up 2 timesError handling request5:38:30 PM – (ERROR) components/frontend/init.py - message first occurred at 5:22:19 PM and shows up 9 timesEnded unfinished session (id=3 from 2022-07-08 20:18:32.463863)5:19:19 PM – (WARNING) RecorderThe system could not validate that the sqlite3 database at //config/home-assistant_v2.db was shutdown cleanly5:19:19 PM – (WARNING) RecorderCLEAR REFRESHLOAD FULL LOGS

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four total entries

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thats one

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Logger: homeassistant.components.recorder.util
Source: components/recorder/util.py:476
Integration: Recorder (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 5:19:19 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 5:19:19 PM

Ended unfinished session (id=3 from 2022-07-08 20:18:32.463863)

storm sluice Jul 8, 2022, 9:59 PM

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thats the ha logs not the supervisor logs

golden walrus Jul 8, 2022, 9:59 PM

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oh where are supervisor?

storm sluice Jul 8, 2022, 10:03 PM

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settings->System->Logs select supervisor from the dropdown at the top right

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also you said something about partial restore, if you didnt restore core its no wonder none of your dashboards were restored

golden walrus Jul 8, 2022, 10:05 PM

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i see. i read that if the old RPi was 32bit and the new Rpi is running 64bit, i could not do a full restore with core. is that true?

storm sluice Jul 8, 2022, 10:06 PM

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pretty sure that doesnt matter

golden walrus Jul 8, 2022, 10:06 PM

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ah. both are on the same OS version fwiw

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maybe i'll reimage this disk new and try a full restore again

high token Jul 8, 2022, 10:08 PM

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just try restoring again a full backup