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and you can open a second page to look at the Supervisor logs while it's restoring
ah thats a good tip, thanks
oh wait, you meant with the current situatin, just restore full? i did try that. .didnt seem to change anythign
i just reimaged the disk so i'll try fresh with a full backup
Do make an account first. Just easier to then also be looking at the logs at the same time
can also click on the dot there to see what's happening if you want
ok made the new account, going to do the full back up now
when i confirmed restore, the connection was immediately lost which seems right. didnt do that before
heyooooooo we back
that was rather too fast even
zigbee2mqtt dash doesn't work. but my zigbee devices do
i have the same IP on this new rpi as i did before
what does the dashboard say?
502: bad gateway
refresh the whole page
ive had this problem before but cant qutie remember how i fixed it
hrmm nope. tried different browser too
it's usually when trying to open up an addons frontend too soon after the addon started
ah
i'll try clearing cache
in the logs i do have one error from about 5min ago: (ERROR) runner.py
ok z2m dash is back now
i see, i guess slower than i though. yeah, gigabit
Right that explains the blazing fast restore then
it has to download every single addon you had and HA image so was a bit worried when you said everything was restored under 5mins
oh interesting
this is great. im glad you jumped in, i was about to give up and do it all over from scratch
reflahing the OS also should NOT make any difference since the backup has nothing to do with it
but glad it's all back now
still on SD card though?
Is there a way to force ssh into a hass installation?
Mine lol, I rebooted it, and can't get in, but I can ping it
On a raspberry pi
without having set up one of the SSH addons?
either need keyboard and monitor plugged in or setting up keys for debug SSH
do you get anything on port 4357 at least?
Oh duh. Didn't think about kb and screen.
Where would I get something on 4357, in a web browser?
yeah http://your_ip:4357
if supervisor is disconnected isn't the page full of logs?
Nope, white background
keyboard and monitor it is then
Bleh. Lol, okay, I'll go that route and see what I can find out. It's on an older version, rebooted it since I couldn't get to supervisor or node red, and... Yea, just nothing
Thanks @high token !
Guess so... ZigBee and zwave was still working, automations we're fine
Uhhh... Probably a couple years
yeah supervisor 2022.06.x breaks on older versions
I didn't try and update it though...
yeah it autoupdates
FML. Yay Friday afternoon
Can I force an update, or is this probably a scorched earth situation?
maybe first confirm thats actualy the problem
but its very likely alot of people ran into that the past days
Sweet, lol
easiest would be to just intall the latest version and restore from a current backup.
Or we can try downgrading the supervisor temporarely to be able to update the os or take a new backup if you dont have any
can someone please tell me how to install 2 instances on unraid , 2 dockers?
@storm sluice okay, I'm in as root on the emergency console... lol
try docker logs hassio_supervisor
and also try docker images and see what the name of the supervisor image and its version is
Might not work, since the CLI isn't running
oh, nevermind, it worked
there's a traceback after initializing supervisor setup, traces a bunch of files, and has a keperror on 'CgroupVersion'
followed by a red error for Unclosed client session
I don't remember from when I set it up
but its probably os if it enters a emergency console
you can look at /etc/os-release
cat /etc/os-release
cool what does supervisor_arch read?
I'm down to give that a shot
systemctl stop hassos-supervisor
docker pull ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3
docker tag ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3 ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:latest
docker tag ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3 homeassistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:latest
rm /run/supervisor/startup-marker
systemctl start hassos-supervisor
man, that took way longer than I expected. I switched to dvorak layout a few years back, so qwerty typing is weird now lol
did you also time travel back to the 1980s? π
looks like supervisor is running, but in an unhealthy state and needs manual intervention
@grand pivot I DID!!!
My Apple //c from back then had a switch for that
that's... actually pretty awesome. I wish I had a manual switch for it. software switch is a pita when playing any kind of game that makes you need to run, and sometimes hit alt
@storm sluice 4357 is now showing connected, but unsupported and unhealthy too. main 8423 port still doesn't work though
8123*
check if the cli works again
hasos-cli
if not you can manualy start the container docker start hassio_cli
if the cli works you can run su repair from it
CLI not working, but the container is starting
okay! up and running! you're the man. Or woman, or... you know what, I'm just gonna go with You're the bomb!
hopefully that should get it back into a state where the ui works again and you can try taking a backup
Yup, looks like it
the supervisor will update itself again so take a backup and then update the os
oh yeah and download the backup
Yup, I'm on it
I remember now why I didn't update. Didn't they deprecate zwave a while back?
Looks like it in the integrations panel. I figured I'd have to redo my whole zwave network, so kept putting it off lol
no idea i dont use zwave
Zigbee for everything?
you don't need to "redo [your] whole zwave network"
either way youll have to update the os version or youll run into the same issue again
you just need to install/setup the new integration and rename entities if you want
yeah currently only have zigbee and wlan stuff
Makes total sense. Still backing up and pulling it down
well... that... should be easier lol
Are you using the in-wall zigbee switches by any chance? Or just buttons, sensors, etc
all your devices are paired with your dongle
huh. I knew that, and yet.... here we are.
Automations might need to be redone, etc. but yea, that's way easier than I was expecting
Hello I cant add HERE Travel Time integration
I used this api key below with asterix
@storm sluice it is fighting me on making a backup now. Says the system is in a freeze state...
just kidding, I'm just impatient
yeah iam using a bunch of aqara no neutral switches
How do you like them? From the few zigbee buttons I have around the house (for 3 way functionality) zigbee is WAY faster than zwave, but all my in-wall switches are GE zwave ones
have not had any problems with them, mainly bought them as i already had zigbee and didnt really want to invest into yet another technology and they were the only ones with no nuetral switches available here that didnt have bad reviews
Yea, that's awesome. I have one switch in my house that I've put off automating because it doesn't have a neutral in the box, and I haven't gotten around to rewiring it yet
some of the other chinese stuff have all sorts of problems according to the reviews i read like that they dont work correctly with leds or make squeking noises
I have had really good luck with the xaomi stuff, and my zigbee stick is a no-name unshrouded usb stick from china
i think all those were only problems on the no neutral versions, as they have to trickle a current through the light to feed its electronics
Ohh
as we are not 100% sure what we are going to do with the house long term we put of all costly renovation stuff for now, like redoing all the wiring
FYI, OS updated no problem. Getting core now, then supervisor
Oh boy, do I feel you on that.
We've been in this place for 6 years now, and I'm finally getting around to rewiring the kitchen and the garage (converting to living space)
It seems like the core is taking forever to update. like... going on at least twenty minutes now
like it has already restarted and not come back?
It restarted and came back when I updated the OS
so then I went on to update the home assistant core, and THAT's been taking about 20 minutes so far
Oh it just went. now everything is in a different spot, yay.
how do I get back to where I can update the supervisor now? lol
Oh yep. The area google has trained my eyes to skip. I see it
also under settings->System->Updates
yup. Supervisor isn't in there, but I'll bang out these other updates and see if the system decides it's happy again
you can check the version on the about screen, maybe it updated itself after the reboot
anyhow iam going to bed now. need to get up early and its almost 3am
yes
Is that as simple as just adding the integration?
do note:
For new installations, network security keys will be automatically generated for you. If this Z-Wave stick has already been paired with secure devices, you need to enter the previously used network key as the S0 network key.
Awesome. they have a migration guide there too
yes, in fact, it should migrate for you, I think
Won't install with the supervisor add-in... my supervisor tab is still gone too, which is odd
I am trying to install Home Assistant supervised on my pi and am getting this: ```1 not fully installed or removed.
Unpacking homeassistant-supervised (1.2.1) ...
dpkg: dependency problems prevent configuration of homeassistant-supervised:
homeassistant-supervised depends on os-agent.
dpkg: error processing package homeassistant-supervised (--install):
dependency problems - leaving unconfigured
Errors were encountered while processing:
homeassistant-supervised
root@raspberrypi:/home/aidan#
I am installing this on a Pi 4 and have installed the os-agent_1.2.2_linux_armv7.deb. Do I need to reboot?
I had a working VM with HA on it and was having issues with addons not loading so i reboot the VM and now it hits me with WARN HA CLI not starting! Jump into emergency console, Has anyone else ran into this issue, google is not helping any.
Is there a a way to manually set date and time? I just installed (HA OS on RPI 3b+) and it is having a plethora of issues because it believes the date is March 11th π€¦ββοΈ
Hello folks,
I have a rather odd question but I have to ask
Is it possible to have a setup (LAN) on place B and have home assistant runnning on place A (different subnet) ????
no one?
I'm sick of beating my head against this. For some reason or another I can't get my Pi to boot (both with microsd card, external drive (with and without powered hub)) so I migrated to a docker install. But now I can't restore my most recent backup. There's no "upload backup" option (presumably since I can directly access the directory) but I'm unable to actually copy files from my backup to my data folder for docker. Attempting to copy the entire directory fails silently with no files copied. I was able to copy some individual files by hand (automations.yaml for instance) however no integrations are restored by this method, and so all my scripts and automations don't work.
What I want to know is if there's a way to do a full migration like this or if I have to redo everything from scratch.
you should be able to extract the homeassistant(core) backup from your hasos backup file and put the files into the directory that you mount on /config in the container
I assume that's the homeassistant.tar.gz within the full backup archive? I've been trying to copy its contents.
Although, I think this backup originated from the google drive backup integration, but I'm fairly certain that just stores an actual backup file.
as for any addons you might have had you will have to look into running the respective software in their own containers and look into how to configure them and if you can reuse any of the backup data for those.
yes thats the correct archive.And yes the googledrive backup addon just makes a backup using the backup feature provided by the supervisor and saves it on googledrive
Then I just need to keep fighting with cp to get these files copied. Are known devices kept within the home-assistantt_v2.db I assume?
Well whatever, I guess so long as my scripts and stuff are here I guess redoing all my devices isn't that bad.
the db is just for histroy
iit contains nothing else
history
basicaly after you extract it you want to copy/move all files from the data directory to your ha containers config directory
theres a number of hidden files/directories like .storage and .cloud make sure to copy those too
tar xzvf homeassistant.tar.gz; cp -rT data /path/to/config_directory
Hi all! Question. I have HA installed with the old installation in a raspberry pi. Since yesterday it doesnβt start the docket container. The home assistant image keep restarting and crashing. Anyways, since I have a Synology now I was thinking on moving HA there. I still have access to ssh for the raspberry and I would like to keep my config for the addons and Lovelace. Can someone guide me on what to extract?
is it supervised install?
which errors do you see when you run docker logs hassio_supervisor
Let me take a look
yes, the image that crashes is homeassistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor
does it say something like keyerror:cgroupversion in the log?
@proven pewter posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/yocojomezu
basically that log over and over since it's trying to restart itself, not sure what happened, yesterday the rpi was frozen, and I had to unplug it / plug it (something I did in the past a couple of times) but it never recovered this time
yeah it upgraded the supervisor because it wasnt shutdown cleanly and the new supervisor is incompatible with your old installation
is it supervised or hasos?
If I remember correctly, it is supervised (I use the rpi for other things as well)
that's why I was also considering migrating to the Synology, since this freezes are usually ram related on the pi
but I was not expecting this crash π¦
we can try downgrading the supervisor and then you can take a full backup and download it and either upgrade your os to the equivalent of debian 11 and then rerun the supervised installer or maybe just create a hassos vm on your nas and restore the backup there
systemctl stop hassio-supervisor
docker pull ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3
docker tag ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3 ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:latest
docker tag ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3 homeassistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:latest
rm /run/supervisor/startup-marker
systemctl start hassio-supervisor
if that works and it starts the supervisor you can try running ha su repair
and it should hopefully get back into a state where you can access the ui and take and download a backup
let me try this, very noob question, is asking me for a root password which seems to not be the same I've always used π€
I ssh with pi user
ok, I've just tried sudo that line and seems to have worked
other images are booting
oh man, you are a savior, it just booted! Do you recommend to move it to the NAS? That was my initial thought since the supervised install it's deprecated (and now this happened).
if you can run hassos there in a vm that would probably be better, the supervised install is officialy only supported on debian and you are responsible for keeping track of new requirements and makeing sure your os provides them by updating etc
will try that, so I should run a full backup through the settings, and then will give it a go with the nas
yeah thats what i would try
thank you a lot!
So I gave up on the vm and im trying to run it on a rpi 3b+, I can get onto the web page now but it's stuck on the preparing screen
Hi, with the supplier of my router, I reset a new static IP address for the RPI, and we did also the forwarding port 8123.... this is correct now.
But I cannot open HA with regular previous address https://hassiodomain.duckdns.org:8123/ : HA page is trying to connect = "Unable to connect to Home Assistant; retrying in xx seconds... RETRY NOW"
I can open HA when I use 192.168.1.40:8123, but I got a RED warning "acces not secured" and "certificat no valid".
In HA, Settings/System/Network, are these parameters correct https://imgur.com/a/iW4DIHb ? What should I change in order to get access from the internet as before the router shutdown ?
Check in canyouseeme.org whether this time you can see the port open
You have forwarded 8123 to 8123?
Since you're using duckdns 443 also needs forwarding
If you aren't forwarding 443 change the rule and instead forward 443 to 8123
That way you both get renewal of your SSL certificates and also can use the duckdns URL without specifying any port
You shouldn't need to changing anything in ETH0 since you're saying you have reserved the IP on the router itself, that's fine
Hey guys I'm fairly new to Home Assistant, I can't seem to understand how to install it on windows 10 any advice would be helpful.
Hm.. So I have HA running from a OVA image (latest version) but.. I cant seem to open the 'Addons' page anymore to control things like Zwave? clicking on the button just shows a blank page (and this happens on Firefox & Chrome)
(works okay ont he 'app' though on my phone)
It eventualy times out saying "Could not load the supervisor panel" which is a pain as Im trying to add new z-wave device s:P
Presumably you went through this? https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows
Yes I ran the virtualbox vdi set up
But?
But I still get no ip address that allows me to access HA. I just get right back to that page 404 not found
You are trying to bridge the VM over ethernet?
Yes
I got answer = port is closed. I forwarded 8123 to 8123 ; then I changed 443 to 8123 => NO change ; ok I did no change in eth0
still same problem = I cannot open HA with domain address "RETRY..." and I can open HA with 192.168.1.40:8123 NOT SECURED. HELP
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/remote-access-for-home-assistant/206072 is a good guide that should cover all the basics
Thank you I have all this http:
ssl_certificate: /ssl/fullchain.pem
ssl_key: /ssl/privkey.pem
And also duckdns
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Opening with the IP and having that error is total correct. Nothing wrong there as said in the past
Your issue seems to be the port forwarding
Everything worked well until micro-shutdown of ma router when I was working on a yaml file !
Are you sure you have selected TCP or both TCP/UDP?
yes TCP
Then one of:
- Your WAN IP changed
- Your IP for HA changed
- The port forwarding is broken and needs removed and set up again
- The router is having issues and needs factory reset
I had a conference call with ORANGE = my internet provider. We checked everything and made ne setup= new Static IP address + forwarding from 8123 to 8123. The Guy said to me : "Now all is OK on the router, you have to check with HomeAssistant"
Yes we changed IP address of the RPI
check those things again then
does the rpi have the ip you setup the portforwarding for?
yes
can you access homeassistant using that ip and port 8123?
yes with message "not secured"
you will obviously get that not secure error as the certificate is not valid for that ip
does your duckdns name point to the public ip your router now has?
good question : I didn't do any change on duckdns
after the new IP address & forwarding
nslookup yourname.duckdns.org
compare to what your router shows as its public ip address
with https://hassiodomain.duckdns.org/ I got RED message NOT SECURED
Sorry I don't understand "compare to what your router shows as its public ip address"
when I connect with 192.168.1.40:8123 I have same message in RED colour NOT SECURED
i meant lookup the ip your duckdns name points to and then go to your router and lookup its public ip address and see if they are both the same
how can I find the ip of duckdns name points to ?
Correct
That is normal
https://hexillion.com/ and enter your hostname in the box
Hey, I'm running HA in docker on a rpi4. I tried to update it by stopping and deleting the container and then pulling the latest image and starting it up. However it still shows that the version is 2021.12.8 in the info section... Am i missing something here? I'm not a docker pro... π
Delete the old container, or move to using Compose
whats the command you used to start it?
on docker compose
version: '3'
services:
homeassistant:
container_name: homeassistant
image: "ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable"
volumes:
- /srv/homeassistant/:/config
- /etc/localtime:/etc/localtime:ro
restart: unless-stopped
privileged: true
network_mode: host
With that you just do
docker compose pull
docker compose up -d
(or docker-compose if you're on the old version)
lemme try
huh wow, that worked. my commands had pulled it already then but was running the old one. ty
I got same IP address on hexillion and on https://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
what sould I look after ?
And does that match what your router shows for the WAN IP, on it's admin page?
if you pulled the latest tag that doesnt update what the stable tag points to in dockers local image repo
sorry I can't find my public address on my router ???

I will chack after dinner, sorry
It's there, you're just not looking in the right place
I'm having the issue where in virtualbox my Home Assistant will become unreachable on the network after ~24 hours. I've been following the post here: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/545, but when trying to configure my ipv4.dns it tells me that it's an "invalid IPv4" address. I know extremally little about networking, so I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong in this situation. Any suggestions?
OK it's good, I found the same public address in the INFORMATION section of my router than on hexillion and on https://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/
sorry again
it must be your portforwarding then
only other option would be that you are under CGNAT but you'd think the people in the call you were would have known that
what's the first 2-3 digits of your WAN IP?
and maybe worth showing us your portforwarding rule
last option Ican think of the router is the problem
@unique hawk I saw your message in #general-archived nmcli it is :D
Sorry I wasn't sure if you were referring to me haha. Yes, it is. Unfortunately I'm so new to networking that I don't really know what it's trying to do
Haha what is your goal exactly?
are you having issues downloading images?
I would maybe try from step 3 here https://community.home-assistant.io/t/guide-connecting-pi-with-home-assistant-os-to-wifi-or-other-networking-changes/98768
Alternatively also here #installation-archived message
Assistance people told me after all resetting and checking on the router : "now the ball is on the Home Assistant" side
so whats the portforwarding currently setup like?
and whats the error you get when you visit the duckdns name in your browser?
He should also forward 443 for the certificate renewals for duckdns
If it's expired on top of everything he'll have more issues
pretty sure the addon uses dns challenge to renew the certs
Ah my bad then
hi :) is there a way to get a shell in an addons ?
i don't see it in the help with ha addons or ha docker. core_nginx_proxy nolonger work with ssl enable on home assistant directely and i would like to look directely at the config file
@high token I followed the steps laid out in step 3 of https://community.home-assistant.io/t/guide-connecting-pi-with-home-assistant-os-to-wifi-or-other-networking-changes/98768, which was definitely more clear cut than what I was following before. I've established a static ip, so hopefully here tomorrow it won't drop off the network on me. Thank you!
I might've been a bit too fast on that, I can't actually connect at all to HA through browser anymore xD
Tinkerer, the past two times I've updated HA (docker compose), I've wound up having to reboot the box as it hangs. Any ideas?
Hi
I was trying to install it on Virtual box but when i try to open the IP it shows on the browser
My browser says that ip address refused to connect
Morning! My friend has a HA which is totally unresponsive. Is there a way to factory reset it or access a serial port?
totally unresponsive
pug a screen and a keyboard, and look at what happen :)
is it boot looping ? is it frozen on the cli ? can you enter command ?
given the HAos is Docker based, i'm blindly guessing there is no serial output
Hello! I would really need your help. I had home assistant os running smoothly for more than one year on an ssd attached to a raspeberry pi4. 2 days ago the system became un responsive (both ssh and webserver). After rebooting. The raspberry is in a loop, the boot loader boots the ssd and then the rasp immediately restarts itself
Any suggestion?
I feel maybe I should just start with a new installation but I have no backups! So at least I would need to backup the right folders manually on Ubuntu (since the ssd seems to work if I attach it to my computer
When I type 192.168.1.40:8123 in my navigator I get https://imgur.com/a/FcXY1UU
Then I clic on "Non sΓ©curisΓ©" I get https://imgur.com/a/vUBMurQ
Then I clic on "Certificat non valide" in RED colour I get https://imgur.com/a/0eXRwL8
All this is normal and expected, as I said before (and as others have said)
Is there a certificat at duckdns ?
There's a certificate no matter how you connect
How is it possible to upgrade ?
What do you mean?
Upgrading HA has nothing to do with SSL, or the lack of
If you're worried, remove the (presumably still broken) port forwarding, then remove SSL from HA
Upgrading the duckdns certificat because it is RED
You can't "upgrade" that
It shows red because you're not using the hostname to connect
(as I said before, as others said before)
If you use the IP and you're doing SSL in HA you will always get that error
with the assistance of ROUTER internet provider WE fixed a new IP address as well as port forwarding
can you look at this ?
https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/1706
There is a know issue about docker, and maybe you just have to remove a corrupted file
Then use the hostname to connect, and you won't see that error
with host name HA is not able to open "cannot open connect... RETRY...."
Then either:
- Fix that (NAT loopback is the key)
- Accept that you're always going to get an error
- Use a proxy server (like NGINX) to handle the SSL instead
ok but how "Fix that (NAT loopback is the key)"
Check your router for a setting about NAT Loopback or NAT Reflection or similar
With host name, before shutdown of the router and RPI, it worked perfect
If it worked before it should have that setting
which setting ?
currently I have access to HA on my computer = ok (even the RED warning).
But as already said, I have no more possibility to open HA from outside on the internet when I use https://domain.duckdns.org:8123. How to fix this ?
When you write 1) Fix that (NAT loopback is the key), do you mean port forwarding ? because this is fixed now.
No, I meant exactly what I wrote
Wait, I thought you said you'd fixed that
with the assistance of ROUTER internet provider WE fixed a new IP address as well as port forwarding
So, you didn't actually fix anything then?
When I try to connect to domain I get https://imgur.com/a/pIEGSrR
And does https://www.yougetsignal.com/tools/open-ports/ work?
(I'm assuming you forwarded 443 to 8123)
Sorry : port is closed with forwarding 443 to 8123
you know what work very well ? https://www.home-assistant.io/cloud/
The guy explained to me, that now the router should work = forward xxx
I asked you
I'm with Vlycop, you really should give up and buy the Nabu Casa cloud service
No, you didn't, you told us you had it fixed
with UPPERCASE word :D
They have forwarded 8123 to 8123 which the ISP says it's working apparently
I'm assuming the ISP did in this case π
@unborn mantle Test if the port is open from your phone using data
Not while on your local wifi
You can use canyouseeme but remember it auto populates your current WAN IP. So on your phone you need to change that number to match the one from your WAN IP
They are still country where ISP reply to you and do real test ?
The only thing they can do here is breaking stuff
Yeah they have broken stuff before on mine. Equally my port forwarding once wasn't working till they add it themselves
yes it is closed too
Depends on the quality of the ISP, here we have everything from your connection is fine when the cable has been cut in two by workmen, to walking you through troubleshooting your own network
I have a second connection and HA in a summer house. There was no internet connection or kept disconnecting. Other family members called the ISP and they decided to do a factory reset....
that is violant
Like do you not see all the port forwarding rules on the damn router?
bye bye DHCP setting, bye bye firewall, Bye bye WIFI XD
And DDDNS
you had a good router if he could do that
mine is just a DMZ to a vm, and wifi turn off
It's a crappy ISP provided router
From ZTE lol
But there's no need for anything better in a summer house
At home it's just acting as the modem to go from copper to ethernet
i don't understand summer house...
We have our main house and a second house that we usually go to in summer of weekends π
doesn't it get broken into all the time ?
Quite common in Greece
No π
welp, i guess the mindset is different.
Here you fear for your home when you leave for the weekend
I came to you for help, not to read your stories
We have been trying to help
Look for a NAT option or try to see if you can connect while not on the same WiFi (using your phone's data)
We've been trying to help for days now...
port forwarding is hard, if tool online show you that is is closed and you don't know what to do, this is way outside of what the admin here can do.
They can't remote on the router of people and do stuff for them.
IF this is outside of what you know, get the cloud subscription, or go ask on a forum of people with the same ISP an router to help you
I have shown patience and good will, but you have not yet managed to identify my problem; maybe it should be done differently?
It's also free
If you're unhappy with the level of help you get here, feel free to go elsewhere 
people try to help (on a sunday), just because they are nice like that...
they could be roasting steak outside right now :)
why be arrogant or frustrated?
i don't get arrogant from them, but i do get anger and disdain from you...
I can understand why they are frustrated if it's been hours, you clearly don't know enough to do something yet, and they can't help you with hardware they don't have
pourquoi ne pas Γͺtre persΓ©verant ?
French dud
why not be persistent?
English
No one is trying to be anything. Trying to help on a Sunday Vlycop said. For example though you have said multiple times about your RED warning you get using your IP. And that we have established everytime that it's normal
If there is frustration is because we are repeating the same thing again
for my information, what is your ISP ?
So now we have suggested you likely don't have NAT loopback enabled
Or I suggested to try from your phone while using data
Either the duckdns URL or seeing if the port is open
Apparently they did also test 8123 and it didn't work 
so uh ... do you know if there is a way to get a shell from the Home assistant OS HA bin into an addon/docker ?
#installation-archived message
#add-ons-archived may know, I'd guess you could do that with the docker command though
it only offer
ha docker registries```
So i am not sure
If you think this is a [#add-ons-archived](/guild/330944238910963714/channel/672220642099200000/) i'll go there
You probably need to be on the host's console for docker commands
yea, i've read a doc about puting the private key on a usb key and rebooting to allow ssh on 2222, but if there is a way to do that from HA shell it would be cleaner
ok noted :)
Oh the advanced SSH add-on with protection disabled has access
So now, could I say Thank you Sirs , good job ? Is my problem fixed ? NO, I am still unable to get the HA connection from domainname, even from my smartphone
Hi everyone.
IΒ΄m trying to upgrade my home assistant core from 2021.3.4 to 2022.7.
But IΒ΄m getting this error message in Supervisor log.
22-07-10 12:12:23 ERROR (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-homeassistant:2022.7.2: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.40/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-homeassistant:2022.7.2/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-homeassistant:2022.7.2: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-homeassistant:2022.7.2")
IΒ΄ve check the storage, there should be no problems with full storage.
Do you guys know what may be the issue here?
404 Error for docker usually is a result of one of these things:
-
The image tag you are trying to use does not exist (if this is the case you will see the word 'manifest' in the error)
-
There is not enough space left on the device to download the new container.
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After updating to 2022.7.2 it seems that my configuration.yaml is not being loaded... I have not changed the file location (/config/configuration.yaml) , but I can see that none of the lines in the configuration.yaml are being loaded; no automations, no custom notification providers, ... only the integrations which are configured via the UI. In the logs I see no errors...
Further details, and log snippets here ->
https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/ucuhalegey.sql
@hollow junco all custom components can be disabled by renaming the custom component directory and restarting HA.
"See supervisor" means the supervisor logs. So ha su logs
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^^ @crude inlet Response with snippets of the logs ...
So I'm still wondering: how do I set home assistant to debug level logging, and/or determine what these tasks in progress are?
Can you do ha os info
[core-ssh ~]$ ha os info
board: rpi4-64
boot: B
data_disk: .
update_available: false
version: "8.2"
version_latest: "8.2"
I would also restore from backup, but I cannot find a viable path to that either... as always blocked by task is in progress...
@crude inlet Yes, I can reboot the host like that, but arrive at the same situation; I can ssh to the host (using the ssh addon), but home assistant core does not run correctly.
If you think it's the update you can roll back to the previous
@crude inlet Indeed I would like to, but I cannot restore the backup:
[core-ssh ~]$ ha backups restore 7af376db
Processing... Done.
Command completed successfully.
[core-ssh ~]$ ha supervisor logs
22-07-10 16:16:16 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.api.middleware.security] /backups/7af376db/restore/full access from core_ssh
22-07-10 16:16:16 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.jobs] 'BackupManager.do_restore_full' blocked from execution, system is not running - CoreState.STARTUP
No I don't mean restore config.
That's a full backup, more than just config restore.
I mean update to the previous version But you might get the same
ha core update --version=2022.x.x
Replace x with the version you want
No... unfortunately that also does not work:
[core-ssh ~]$ ha core update --version 2022.7.1
Processing... Done.
Command completed successfully.
[core-ssh ~]$ ha supervisor logs
22-07-10 16:41:28 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.api.middleware.security] /core/update access from core_ssh
22-07-10 16:41:28 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.utils] Can't execute update while a task is in progress
Yeah
Is there any other steps I can take to get the system back other than starting from fresh and trying to restore from a previous backup?
You might just go ahead and do that to save time
Would deleting the entire contents of the config directory allow it to do a clean setup start (without having to do the hassle of getting the rasppi connected to a keyboard and monitor, writing SD card etc)?
Yes - just checked and confirmed that everything is there, and config files etc. exist and are as I remember them before it stopped working...
So yes... deleting the config directory allowed the vanilla hassio to come up, and from there I could restore the previous backup, and now everything's working again... What a lot of bother...
Thanks for the help! β£οΈ
Hi there, I'm running HAss for nearly 2 years on the docker installation mode. I've seen recently some interresting add-ons to monitor system but only available on the "full" version of HA. So my question : Is it fine to stay on the docker version, and maintain 100 dock (nodeRed, ESP, etc...) or is it better to run a full install. I'm on a Pi4. Thx for comments
IMO it's fine to stay if you're happy
just wanted to check as in july 2022 the best installation mode π
Best remains a personal choice
π
Personally I think Container is the "best" method, but I like my control
Hey All, when trying to take a CORE backup and go to a rpi 4 I am getting a warning "Are you sure you want partially to restore this backup?" this normal or?
@humble mirage mentioned I suspect it's partial because it's purely for Core
why do you get warnings about restore if you do a backup?
does go to a rpi mean you tried to restore the backup there?
but yeah if it only contains core(homeassitant) that would be considered a partial restore
migrating from #general-archived - π hopefully now writing in the correct place. I recently updated to 2022.7 (first .1 then .2). However it has a breaking change w/ MiFlora, so I rolled back to 2022.6.7. Totally fine, but now my config folder appears to be empty. I can use File Editor add-on and edit my full backed up configuration.yaml, but in terminal the config folder is completely empty. This is an HAOS installation on Pi3b. I even did a linux 'find' command in terminal from root (/) and it says configuration.yaml not found! Path to configuration.yaml: /config is what's shown in About.
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I recently signed up with a new ISP. I have updated all of my smart device wifi credentials but am looking for guidance on updating the wifi credentials in home assistant. I tried updating the wifi information on the usb drive I have inserted but that didn't seem to work. Thanks all!
roughly how big SD card do I need for home assistant? Assuming I want to install the "Home Assistant Operating System" (I assume that's the easiest way to get things up and running)
The docs say 32 GB is the minimum
Hey all, I'm currently trying to get HA (running on a rpi 3 b+) to work over a wired connection. The wireless connection works, however when I try to set IPv4 to DHCP instead of disabled (under System>Network>ETH0) I keep getting the following error; Can't create config and activate eth0: Connection 'Supervisor eth0' is not available on device eth0 because device has no carrier
After quiet some googling I can't seem to find a working solution.. Can someone possibly help me or is my ethernet port just death? (inside unifi I can see that the connected cable doesn't pull any data and reads disconnected, other cables show the same.)
If it's showing as disconnected there's no connection, which is what HA is telling you
You need to fix that problem first
But what is disconnected then? I'm positive the ethernet cable is fitted in
tried different cables aswell π¦
A connected cable is only good if:
- The cable is good
- The computer's port is alive and up
- The hub/switches port is alive and up
If you've tried a known good cable then it's one of (2) or (3), and I'd start with (3)
I'm worried about '2' then, anyway to check this?
'3' seems to work as well, as my laptop gets an ip immediatly
Well, try the Pi with a known good cable in a known good port
I just replaced the Pi with a spair one laying around, moved the sd-card and cables over and it seems to be working now...
Seems like my ethernet port is broken on the original one π¦
I guess you main concern is not Miflora atm, but hassio itself. I just wanted to let you know that I have issues with miflora as well, somewhere in between 2022.7.2 and .3 it should have happened. I haven't found anything on the internet, but I definetly didn't change a thing
Does it work if you use the IP (and port) instead?
yes, but still no connection
That makes no sense... either it works, and there's a connection, or it doesn't work, and there's no connection
the device says that it is connected to wifi but I cant find it in the device list in my router
what would be the right way to set up Wifi on HASOS?
That I don't know, but somebody else will
Could you be a little more empathetic, and try to understand the problem ?
... if you want to help the guys !
https://www.home-assistant.io/code_of_conduct/ and read #rules - trolling isn't welcome here
Hi! I installed HA on my Raspberry Pi4 and over lan it works just fine. Now I want to switch to wifi, I set up my wifi under System/Network and it says that it is connected to wifi XYZ. However, homeassistant.local is still not accessible. I am not sure if this was correct at all. Also, in Settings under the network icon is the following message: "External access disabled" - its translated from German, I'm not sure what the message is in English.
Thanks a lot!
I think I messed up and canβt seem to have the users page open (only legacy api password), and disabled legacy api user - is there any way for me to get back in?
Do you still have access to configuration.yaml?
Iβm not sure. Itβs in a virtual machine so I donβt know where the files are stored, but I have somewhat limited terminal access?
You didn't install either the SSH or Samba add-ons then?
I downloaded them, but never activated them, I think
Those are the easiest method, I'm not sure on the console how you'd go about editing configuration.yaml
Somebody else will though, I'm sure
Did you ever configure it though?
Bah, no
When installing core manually does it create a service to automatically start on boot when you run hass the first time? or do i need to do something so it starts on any restarts like create my own service?
installing core has no impact on the system outside of creating a venv and installing HA
is there any guidance on making sure it automatically runs on any reboots?
yes, there's a forum post on creating a service
cool thank you
Any ideas?
What version of the os-agent do I install for a supervised version on my pi 4?
@foggy brook this installation method is a trap https://github.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer
If I want supervised then what would you suggest?
Anything other than this if the initial install instructions trip you up. It's a copy of the managed docker ecosystem which HAOS provides. Running your own docker system that you are in control of is a better alternative.
I wouldn't be able to use addons though correct?
Addons are docker containers managed for you
Your own docker system would have containers you manage yourself.
Supervised is an awkward in-between where it is managed, because it's a copy of the intended project, but you also want control so you can run other things
So I wouldn't be missing out seeing that I can manually install every addon as a container?
You can't run the addons. You can find the containers the addons are based off of.
Or ignore me and find the link about OS agent in the instructions π
I'll probably end up just using docker through portainer. I wish I could use HA os with the HASSIO Pi displaying the dashboard on an attached display.
Yeah unfortunately it's not meant for that.
Hey, so I'm trying to set up homeassistant for docker and I'm just having issues with the inital run of it. Like it's "installed" but it never runs, it just fails on the config.
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https://www.codepile.net/pile/WL6vjDLa This is my logs from the docker container. It just says can't find config, creating a default one and then even though the files exist, it can't see them?
Are you using Docker Compose, the command line, or something else?
(this looks like you didn't map /config into the container)
CLI
Windows?
Yep
Well, I hate to tell you this, but you're outta luck
- It ain't supported on Windows
- That volume mount is wrong anyway
Docker on Windows doesn't have support for host networking
Riiiight
Docker on anything but Linux is nerfed, sadly
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/windows gives only two options, because those are the only ones that work, and TBH Core is a roll of the dice too, since not every Python library is compatible with Windows
Right... I was trying to get it on a Pi 3, but need to find a network port and power for it before I can really set that up.
A VM on your Windows box will be (mostly) a better choice
i can't install DockDNS, it shows an error, Does anyone have an idea?
The #add-ons-archived or the #integrations-archived ?
See, I thought I had one with ubuntu or something... Something about needing to install ubuntu with docker?
If that's WSL, that's not good enough I'm afraid
Fine... I'll just get the Pi 3 set up eventually...
Or install VirualBox on the Windows machine
Hi. Can someone point me to the right docs to install NUT server on HAOS?
I read the integration docs, but I'm not sure how to install the NUT server on my HAOS installation. Thx
The server would have to be an #add-ons-archived
That's how you install any software on HAOS
oh, so not more apt install nor apk, etc?
coming from a Docker on Debian (Supervised) installation
You were never supposed to do any of that on Supervised anyway
The requirements are quite clear about not installing other software
Well, it used to work as it was, now I can't seem to connect. Will continue reading. Thanks
Hey, so for the 29384 time, my home assistant setup wasn't working anymore. (out of nowhere) so I setup a new VM, downloaded and attached the qcow2 disk, and now i'm presented with a home assistant screen where I can upload my backup, while uploading, the /upload path returns an 400 error with: Unknown error, see supervisor logs. I never couldn't restore any backup of home assistant and i'm getting tired of it. How 2 fix?
su logs shows:
Can't validate data for /data/tmp/todfjrjwqe9/backup.tar: expected a URL @ data['repositories'][1]. Got 'local'
expected a URL @ data['repositories'][5]. Got 'core'
FYI: started the VM without internet access, after boot I updated the network settings via the terminal with a static IP.
great, got it working again, seems like a little bug, so time for a party, first time i could restore my backup π₯³
Hi, hopefully Iβm in the right thread, Iβve had an instance of HassOS running on an intel NUC very stably for >12 months (it was installed using the older βintel NUC files before the generic x86-x64 option was availableβ. The system lost power and when I turned it back on this time it wonβt load home assistant. I dug out a monitor and plugged it in, the boot sequence looks healthy and the screen only shows [code] Waiting for the Home Assistant CLI to be ready...
[WARN] Home Assistant CLI not starting! Jump into emergency consoleβ¦
#[/code]. Iβm able to login using βrootβ with no password. Iβm at a loss as to what to try next. Would love some advice!
@wise valve I'd try docker ps to see what containers are running
Hey cogneato, looks like only observer is running. The rest have all exited with mostly 255 or 0 as the reason.
Hi, I have a lot of problems with supervisor in my HA, It keeps crashing and now i cant even start it. Im running HA supervised in docker on Rpi4
https://dpaste.org/VjfpD full errors here, I really dont know what to do
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Iβve just hit βDocker restart homeassistantβ will update once that has had time.
I can see itβs attempted to run hassio_supervisor but it keeps showing βcreatedβ a few second ago and then status is βexited a few seconds agoβ looks like itβs stuck on a repeating loop. Iβll give it more time.
See #zigbee-archived for advice on Zigbee
anyone has any idea what to, If my supervisor is unhealthy and Unsupported and unreachable? restart doesnt work anymore, it just keep crashing
HA supervised in docker
π€
yes supervisor-2022.05.3
i have no choice but to use the HA container
then you don't have Supervisor at all?
Still the same after 20 minutes, keyboard is unresponsive. Going to force a restart.
I have, its the supervised docker
Did you flash the HAOS image, or did you use the Supervised installer, or ...?
supervised installer i suppose, now its named "Install Home Assistant Container
" on offical website
it clearly is not
That's a third, different, install method
and not the one you're using
Sounds like you ran the Supervised installer, and I'd be betting that you ran it on something other than Debian itself
Time to grab the backup, flash a HAOS image, and restore the backup
Im sure I have the supervised version
Hmmmmβ¦ now it wonβt boot into HAOS at all. Just stuck on a blank screen. Have tried rebooting a few times and just shows the Intel Nuc then a black screen. Thinking I made it worse? Guessing my only option is a fresh install and reload from a backup?
can I even do something? or ill need to do new install?
well i cant really just flash HAOS
I need my Rpi as server for some other things.....
Then you shouldn't have been using Supervised
The requirements explain that, but you clearly ignored them
And that's probably why you're in this mess
I really cant see where...
normal python shoudnt brak it.. it was running five for over a 6 months...
yes probably https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/2005
Easiest would just be to reinstall using the latest os release and restore a backup
not sure why it doesnt boot anymore though
And now it broke, so the streak has ended
Hey @storm sluice this sounds exactly like my issue. This instance is running an older release as I havenβt updated this instance in quite some time as it was at another house and it was stable and I got lazy as I didnβt personally use it very often (it also hasnβt had a restart of any sort for >12 months, only restarted due to a power outage so very certain Iβm just another example of that link). Guess my laziness like usual has come to bite me. Looking at that GitHub thread, looks like Iβm stuck. Assume even if my system decides to start working I canβt update the HAOS and get it going again? All good if I am, gives me a weekend project to get the NUC on the latest version!
Dumb question, I think that instance was still using the old 0.1XX.X releases, can I still downgrade a fresh install to an old version and maintain a modern HassOS instance to avoid the issue? (From memory I skipped an upgrade which broke my Z-Wave instance and I didnβt have the time to work through it as I have a lot of z-wave devices - this issue of upgrading might be solved but I havenβt looked into it as I donβt use z-wave at my normal home)
Hi ! I just installed home assistant for the very first time and I have some small issue. But most importantly, I want it to work via wifi. I have seen this guide https://community.home-assistant.io/t/guide-connecting-pi-with-home-assistant-os-to-wifi-or-other-networking-changes/98768, but isn't there a way to do it via the interface?
can i install home assistant supervisor in docker
No
oh
If you want the supervisor, use HAOS
i want to remotly shutdown my pc, but i cant install that in docker
Sure you can
how
Find the relevant Docker image
The add-on is just a Docker image built for the Supervisor, and Docker images just run software in a container
You can always install the software manually, and in 99.9999999% of cases there's going to be an existing Docker image to use
i searched rpc shutdown on docker hub but cant find it
i mean how can i create a config for a computer without the addon
You can install that tool on the host running Docker, and then use SSH from HA to run the command
(there's other options, but that's probably the easiest)
You can't "add" that
It's not possible
Can't be done
See also #installation-archived message
If you want the Supervisor, and add-ons, then you need to use HAOS
why are there supervisor images then on that github
Because they're for HAOS
oh right, sorry
HAOS uses them
so for supervisor you need a device that only runs hassio
Yes
is supervisor recommended?
It's personal choice
i am not really able to find an easy way to shutdown a windows pc remotly using home assistant docker
i personally use IOTLink but Hass.Agent shod also be an option but i never used it. The RPC Shutdown add-on shod also work.
Except his install method doesn't have add-ons
(which has been the point of the last few dozens of lines)
oh sorry i just red the last few lines
i mean i should just switch to supervised, but my two pi 4 are already running something
https://github.com/LAB02-Research/HASS.Agent#hassagent was a good suggestion
intresting, thanks! i will look into that
hm then i get the problem that i need mqtt
but i should be able to create a container for that
is there really not a way to install supervisor on an already installed linux pi
Nobody knows ?
also, We are trying to pair the mobile app, both on android and ios, but we are having the same issue where it doesn't accept our url
you're not going to find much support for enabling Wifi for HA because it's strongly discouraged to have a server on Wifi
got it working, thanks for the idea
Hello I am trying to install hass on my pi 3, i do not have access to an ethernet connection, how can i set up my sever onto my wifi without ethernet?
I tried to use my phone to turn on a light last night and noticed all my zwave devices didn't work. No problem, that's happened before. Tried to reboot the server from my phone and it didn't let me. Today I went to my computer and saw it must have restarted. Started the VM again and now it won't connect at all. It has a static IP so that wasn't changed on the reboot
Any ideas what happened here?
Why is the supervisor from the docker version removed intentionally, like 1.5 years ago it was still possible to have supervisor in docker
It wasn't removed, Container has only ever been without the Supervisor
The original HAOS was built in a way that allowed people to install the Supervisor in an unsupported way, and that's still possible, but it's a trap and usually leads to broken systems and frustration.
Nobody recommends it because people almost always set out to ignore the requirements, and then complain when their system dies on them
Indeed, everything you've mentioned says that this is exactly what you'll do
i installed it, seems to work fine for so far
Did you read the requirements?
Because, if you didn't, or you decided to ignore some, you are going to have a dead HA install at some point
i know you already figured it out but i found such an easier and a bit more elegant solution. i used this piece of software called TriggerCMD. in short. you can setup custom CMD commands on your PC and then execute them anywhere. in hass. you can just rig it to be a service call.
i have my PC to be a switch. WoL to start. then to shutdown. send a service call to the service. which shuts down my PC
itβs so freaking easy and itβs SUPER fast.
and free.
using hass agent for that now
Can someone please help me recover the Supervisor Panel?
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/could-not-load-the-supervisor-panel/439239
I have the problem that a lot of my pages (be it the dashboard, the list of automations, scenes, scripts or any of the other basic pages) are just not loading. sometimes it posts an error but not always.
I have a lot of Automations and they dont show up.
Noobie question: I installed the VM from haos.qcow2 -file (with virt-manager) and managed to install couple of plugins and configured them. Now I wonder, How do I access the congiruation.yaml file ? (sshdaemon is disabled or connection refused)
Got access with SSH, thanks π
@onyx lichen there IS ssh on the host on port 22222 but it is meant for debug and it requires adding authorized keys
Has anyone successfully created a hostapd hotspot on a rpi 4 b using the Raspberry Pi OS (64-bit) lite distribution?
I've got it working, however it stays up about five minutes before disconnecting with; 'deauthenticated due to local deauth request' Then no more connections without a hostapd restart
Running Home assistant on a mini PC (e.g. NUC) where other Services are running as well on for example Proxmox or Unraid. What are the pros and cons on running Home Assistant Supervised in a Docker Container vs. running Home Assistant OS in a VM?
Can you please elaborate "no pros to Supervised'
Exactly that
Supervised is a trap
It exists through a quirk of history, and because some people think they're smarter than Marvin (the Android, not the Martian)
I thought the Martian was named 'Martin'?
Could be
It's late, and π»
Supervised, when following the requirements and not setting yourself up for failure, is HAOS except on Debian Bullseye - and you have to manage Debian correctly
Not doing that leads to a surprise... your HA install dead and unresponsive
Alright then whatever Home Assistant version is running in the container. Or the other way around is there any reason I should not install Home Assistant OS in a VM instead?
HAOS and Container are both good choices, depends on whether you want the simplicity of the appliance (HAOS) or the control of Docker (Container)
I've used this installation method several times. It works for me in a container under proxmox and on a rpi 4b https://github.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer
Yeah, that's the trap
HAOS in a VM on Proxmox is a significantly better choice than Supervised under Proxmox
If you're running that directly on the Proxmox host then you've set yourself up for a major fail
And if you're using it to run other software on the host, you've set yourself up for a major fail
Currently I am only planning on running Plex in parallel.
I read that the Home Assistant Addon is not letting you read media from other shares than the same machine. So I would not be able to access the media on my NAS.
So I have the option to run Debian/Ubuntu and Install Plex directly in Debian, and Home assistant in a container.
Install Debian/Ubuntu and run both Plex and Home Assistant in a container, or
Install Proxmox/Unraid and run Home Assistant OS in a VM and Plex in a container.
If you use Supervised and install Plex other than in an add-on you can expect issues
So, don't use Supervised...
Use Proxmox so you can run HAOS in a VM, and Plex however you want
Figured running the OS directly or in a VM is going to be the easiest in terms of maintenance for Home Assistant
I got a NUC, flashed the home assistant software, and essentially get the interface on the host device but I get a βkernel time synchronized error.β It still ends up running but I cannot connect to it via my desktop even with Ethernet plugged in
Is it hanging or rebooting?
sorry so the issue is the network connection. My monitor is in a diff room than my router; so I cannot really look at it in the interface, but I know when I plug ethernet in and let it sit I still cannot connect to the home assistant at my local ip
I tried to get wifi connection so I could at least see + work on it, but I cannot manually input my wifi settings for the interface.
Hi, I had some issues previously (thanks to this thread i was able to get my system back on!). My issues stem from having installed using the old "Intel NUC" installer, As a result I am still running HassOS 5.12, I was trying to update to be on a supported version, when I attempt to update i receive the following error:
WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.updater] Board 'intel-nuc' not found in version file. No OS updates.
When trying to update I receive the following error:
ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.os.manager] Home Assistant Operating System update failed with: Installation error: Failed updating slot kernel.0: failed to mount slot: failed to run mount: Child process exited with code 32
How do I move myself back onto a supported branch (assuming the two errors are linked)
@fluid tangle you plug Ethernet in and power it on. Don't plug Ethernet in later. It needs a connection to set up
I think I did that, but I will retry right now
It isnt showing up on my figo scanner so it for sure isnt connected
yeah it didnt work
I am not sure what to do. I was booting Hassio right from SD and got to interface but no netowrk. I just tried downloading ubuntu and then plugging in the flash and am getting to the same issue
I found an old thread whereby someone recommend upgrading between 5.x to 6.x and onto 7.x, i did the upgrades one-by-one and am now back on a current and "supported" branch once more.
Hey guys, I just setup using the HAOS VM method and it looks like port 8123 isn't exposed on the docker container. There an easy way to fix this?
You have a nuc, and booting from SD card?
Also, what's the error? Do you have access to the console when you say it boots correctly? Can you find its ip from your router?
hello after docker HA install i found there is no community store, so i try Hyper-V home assistant OS version, create VM add vhdx, etc ... after start i have no ip adress
my other vm's on the same default switch have ip adresses (windows and kali linux)
how to debug this please ?
Hi, can someone help me how to install the file editor in the addons.
My hyper-v vm starts and has no IP adress ... what can i do now ? (new home assistant install on hyper-v, all my other vms have ip adresses on the same default network) Looks like the official VHDX has a problem
Guys, i want to be notified about problems with my HA installation (it is done on an old MacbookPro sitting in a drawer, in a VM Box) such as disconnection / failure. How to set it up to receive an email or an app notification? Tag me with replay as i am not an usual here 
On TrueNAS 13.0 - does anyone know how I update to Cargo edition 2021?
Before I update I'm not able to update HA to 2022.7.*
I'd ask the folks at https://www.truenas.com/community/forums/truenas-13/
I am trying to now flash to my SSD, but I cannot get my usb to work. I know I need to use balena etcher on my ubuntu to do this step, but when I click on the usb on the ubuntu I see 4 seperate partitions and cannot find the IMG file. Likewise while Iβm flashing it on my desktop I get a bunch of pop ups to format like 12 different partitions as Iβm flashing it.
The error is basically that it wonβt connect to network. I donβt know how to type in on the HASSIO my wifi credentials, and when I plug into Ethernet I cannot visualize what is happening on the NUC- but I know it isnβt connected to wifi because the home assistant url doesnβt work and I donβt see it on my device scanner app
You might want to format the ssd first deleting all partitions. Ubuntu should have gparted. Tho etched should use peripherals path rather than partitions
The issues with the flash are on the usb side
I had some problems when I did this to a micro usb, like each time I use the url method to flash to my device- it goes fast and then near the end 8 different windows pop up telling me to format each of the partitions. And if I do, it says itβll erase content on it
Attach a keyboard and a monitor
That parts gonna be a little tricky because of the router location, but I guess I need to now. Once I do, what should I be looking for?
There's going to be either an error on boot or something similar. Once you know it it would be easier to address the issue. I had a similar issue with my nuc, and basically bought a very long ethernet cable, and a very long hdmi cable
Erasing the content is right. That's what it should do
I got the OS running without the Ethernet
Wait so at end of the balena etcher I should then click format as f32 and erase each of the partitions?
Just use gparted, delete all partitions, and then use etcher
Is it like an ssd that had a windows install ir other os?
Iβm taking about my usb thumb drive just getting hassios onto the drive seems like itβs going wrong
I did the command prompt to clear all partitions but I can use gparted. I guess what should the folder look like when done? Because in ubunti my one usb drive comes up as 4 separate partitions and I cannot find the IMG file in any of them
I'm a bit confused. Why do you care about the usb stick partitions?
I guess I donβt care necessarily. It just looks different than every video Iβve watched. I have been running it via a sd card, and am now trying to flash to ssd to see if it makes a difference. But I cannot find the haos img file to do that step in ubuntu via balena etcher
The videos may well be outdated and/or just wrong
And I was suspecting it was due to the weird errors Iβve been getting while flashing that I havenβt seen anyone else get
HAOS has changed a lot over the years
The guide on the website is quite spot on
Usb won't matter. Just run etcher pointing it to the ssd, not the usb stick
Donβt I etcher from the usb to the ssd?
yes. As long as you are able to boot into Ubuntu live from usb that's all you need the usb stick for
So etch Ubuntu on the stick, then live boot from it
Ok Iβm on ubuntu. So then I guess I balena etcher via the url ti my ssd within ubuntu?
Ok I will do that now. I was trying to etch it from a separate usb to my ssd
Following the guide will take you 15 minutes max, it's basically 3 steps to put it up and running
Yeah I used it for the micro sd boot, but im hoping just flashing straight to my ssd will be better. Iβm doing it now
So once I flash to ssd, since my ubuntu is my default launcher (itβs installed onto my hd), I need to switch the default boot to my ssd with this HAOS
Ok I have it running. Same error as before since I cannot connect to wifi in the interface- so now Iβm gonna restart and plug in Ethernet.
Can you put up an image if the interface that doesn't make you connect to the wifi? Try using an image hosting site
There shouldn't be anything like that afaik
Sorry what does that mean? Basically I get a failure at the network online step when Iβm not connected to Ethernet- which makes sense since I donβt have a way to input my wifi settings in the os
Makes sense, power it off. Connect the ethernet, and power it on
Especially on first boot
right so i plugged it into my router at lan 1
and the home assistant links on my desktop arent working
What links you are using
I can check that now
you should also see if you can see it in your router
a fresh install will never boot without internet as it needs to download the Home Assistant image
when you get the HA logo on the terminal when you conenct a monitor an IP is supposed to show there too (if it has gotten one)
You need to go to the main router page
You can usually see the ip below the router, but usually are in the shape of 192.168.0.1 or similar
I will have to use monitor later today since I will need to move alot of sutff aournd.
Sounds good
You can check the router stuff in the meantime too, if the machine gets an ip
oh yes, I got sent to a website to log in but none of the codes on the router itself worked
there are also apps for the phone that scan your network and will list your connected devices
if you can't connect a monitor how did you know it was having that error earlier?
or it's now moved since then?
So I used figo this whole time and I cannot really tell which of the devices listed is the nuc
it has moved since then, earlier it was by my pc without ethernet and I was trying to code in my wifi via the haos interface but couldnt get any luck
as of right now its in plugged into a router at lan 1 but away from my monitor
it is on figo I think, isee something with my name and "N40" which checks out, but it is listed twice (a second time since I moved it)
if HA is flashed it should be listed as homeassistant
thus the homeassistant.local:8123
you have nothing to loose trying those two IPs you see there
e.g. http://your_IP:8123
yeah those did not work, so it probably is just still not connected to the ethernet
in the figo app it will be listed as "home assistant" ? Because I dont see that, but my nuc is online
it should be listed as that yes
ethernet is also the default so it's not that it would need any enabling either
should i plug into my modem instead?
I would say connect the monitor, check if you have errors and we go from there
You can't really say that ha is online if you can't access it, or find its ip
I'm excluding already things like Mac deny list or allowlists from the problem
Okay I can do that in a few hours. It is just a huge hassle, and annoying since the guide made it seem like it would work immediately
It does. Many variables in place tho
User error, setup error
Or faulty hw might all play a role
Did you properly setup the bios too?
it was an older bios
but I turned off safeboot, and made it default boot to home assistant
Ok
What you see
Same issue
Wait
It didnβt error this time for network
Lmfao idk why but it worked now
Is βnvmeβ the ssd option for the bios?
Like how do I make it default run ssd, because itβs an older bios option
Nvme is for nvme drives. It's either sata or nvme depending on what ssh you have installed and what the motherboard is able to use
To run default the ssd, you need to change the boot order
Normally the hard drive is always first, but if you changed settings that might have messed up things
Do you also have other drives in? Ideally you'd only have the SSD inside too
Hello I have HA supervised on raspberry pi... It told me it lost connection to the supervisor container so I rebooted the host. How the supervisor tries to restart but it looks like it fails every 7s. What can I do about it, how to find out whats wrong? Ty you!
Hello there
I have a hard time updating HA Core from 2022.5.5 to 2022.7.4
Thereβs a loading animation then nothing : back to square 1
If I try directly from the prompt with :
ha> core update --log-level=debug
It ends up with Β« Process... Done Β» then Β« Command completed successfully Β»
(but obviously nothing is done since Iβm still on 2022.5.5, even after reboot)
My install runs on a odroid N2+ (exactly the same hardware as HA Blue) - latest os and supervisor update are applied
Any ideas or pointers on what I can try ?
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@hard forum what do the supervisor logs show after the update attempt?
Damn I have an error
22-07-14 17:02:57 ERROR (SyncWorker_4) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2022.7.4: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2022.7.4/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2022.7.4: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2022.7.4")
(followed by a line that says update failed)
404 Error for docker usually is a result of one of these things:
-
The image tag you are trying to use does not exist (if this is the case you will see the word 'manifest' in the error)
-
There is not enough space left on the device to download the new container.
I'm using a 16gig SD card, is it too small? I'm getting a similar error.
A 32 GB or bigger card is recommended.
I'd hope you actually read the install docs π
22-07-14 17:04:42 ERROR (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.7.4: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2022.7.4&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi3-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
22-07-14 17:04:42 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec```
You will run out of space on a 16 GB card
I have between 0 and 9% Use when df -kh (so plenty of space left)
I did. It said recommended, not required. Guess I'll go get a new card then :))
In theory you can get away with a 16 GB card, but the stars have to align
Just HA, and nothing else, should work, until you get a lot of entries in the log file or the database (history)
The error I get in the console does however point towards some network issues. (500 server error). I've tried googling around, I found this thread:
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/issue-installing-home-assistant-dns-issue/422270
Not much help there however. Seen this before?
On my side, I donβt get it
22-07-14 16:55:36 INFO (SyncWorker_4) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant with tag 2022.7.4.
That seems to point to a page, with the correct tag available
Oooh β¦ I tried the docker pull command
(via ssh)
and got this error
filesystem layer verification failed for digest sha256:effdb062bd04a23ef005af77e21f475deaca88095309ec20e40ec4e94ef59a33
(after the download)
Ok, I tried the docker pull command with every version from 2022.7.4 to 2022.7.0 : each time I get this filesystem layer verifcation failed
My Windows machine (running wsl with docker for windows) is able to pull all these with no error
Possibly the clock is wrong?
Odroid : Thu Jul 14 17:55:07 CEST 2022
Windows : Thu Jul 14 17:55:18 CEST 2022
(good thinking : could have been that :))
So, manually importing the docker image downloaded by my windows doesnβt work :
docker import /home/hassio/odroid-n2-homeassistant-2022.7.4.tar ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2022.7.4
It results in Β«Pulled image ghcr.io/home-assistant/odroid-n2-homeassistant:2022.7.4 failed on content-trust verification!Β»
if I rm the manually imported image, Iβm back to square one (logs says 404 but I suspect itβs the Β« filesystem layer verification failed for digest sh256 Β»
I have installed the image on my raspberry pi, and want to add a wifi network. I found it in settings and it says it's connected, but I don't see it on the router, and if I unplug the ethernet it's not reachable. If open the SSH adon, wifi has no IP, and ifconfig doesn't show the wlan0 interface that the settings show. How can I properly set up wifi?
I have a ssd I plugged in externally and thatβs where the HA is booted to. But the bios doesnβt give me a ssd option,m for default boot
Why do you want to boot from an usb attached ssd? Usually (not always) usb boots requires you to press a keyboard button to confirm. There's a chance that it just skips the boot, and it boots from the drive connected to the motherboard
Do you have an internal drive?
No I meant like I plugged in my own ssd
not via usb
There is an internal drive I think and windows is installed on that
Using HAOS on Rpi3B+ for many months now
Usually processor usage is <15%. Whenever my internet connection goes offline (twice in this pic https://ibb.co/Kj2xV4F), it shoots 40% (and ofc temp) . I am using internet over LAN cable.
Most of the work this installation does is using nodered addon to fetch some online content and functions/flows based on it. Some weather. Thats all. What can be the reason for processor shooting and how to avoid this?
So you definitely need to swap the boot to the other ssd. Also, i dont know how well this kind of weird dual boot might work
@fluid tangle you mean you have opened up the NUC and have added the SSD in there?
Preferably you want to remove the other drive and only keep the one with HAOS on?
Could be this other drive is an NVME one since you said you were seeing that in the BIOS
I mean if you don't even care about Windows I'd even flash that internal drive with HAOS (if it's an nvme)
On TrueNAS 13.0 - does anyone know how I update to Cargo edition 2021?
Before I update I'm not able to update HA to 2022.7.*
Hi to all. I have my home assistant OS running on a rPi I migrating my docker containers to a small factor pc. Home assistant is running on a subnet that is only for home assistant. Docker is running on different subnet. My question is, if I install HA whit docker can still use the subnet I have assigned to HA, or do I need a nother nic? Thank you
So I double checked and the machine came only with 64gb eMMC?
I remeber not seeing a clear name for the ssd in the boot order option, but was able to manually boot from the m2 ssd
@merry yoke That's confusing. What is the OS on the pi?
Home Assistant OS includes docker, and everything on it runs in docker containers.
https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/releases/download/8.2/haos_rpi3-8.2.img.xz this is the installer I use.
I what to install it as a container
Sorry for the confusion
Ok, so you would just have docker on one machine and docker on another?
Or combined all into one and use the pi for something else
Yeap
So it wouldn't be very different from your current situation
A different operating system on the pi, but still running docker
As you know Pis are a limited in processor so I am upgrading
No upgrading
Hardware to a oc
Pc
Ok. You would run the HA container alongside your other containers, on the PC
Yes
That's a common install method
But as I wrote I have a different subred for my HA and wondering if I can still use that subnet but the PC only as one nic card and it's using a different subnet
Today I fired up rpios bullseye 32bit and the hostapd stays connected unlike the 64bit version which disconnects after five minutes and needs hostapd restarted before connection again (FWIW) π
@merry yoke Yeah I don't know if there's any docker network magic you can do for that or if you would need the second nic
I been having this issue installing x86 HA OS on my bare metal
Does anyone know why it keeps failing
Im not sure What to put in the commands anymore lol
I think its the dns failing but Im not sure of the commands to change it or why its failing in the first place
Also I ran into that weird bug here you need to put in banner command in the machine after boot or this wont even start
Thanks
That would have worked for some reason my netgear router was not honoring my dns rules and being stupid swapped over to my travel router and it worked fine
Thank you though
hi i have bought decking lights which can be used with smart home but iβm struggling to connect it to the app as the device wonβt pop up in my wifi options when i go to settings
Tuya Smart Home app?
You may want to try in #general-archived since this has nothing to do with installing Home Assistant
Hey guys, i'm looking to update my 12 year old mac mini with HASS installed on a VM. I was wondering if i should build my own computer and install Linux on it so it has great reliability/stability. Any suggestions/recommendations for OS, hardware? Thanks.
Why bother with a vm, check if the hardware is supported, and just install in on the mac
Im extrapolating that, mentioning the age if the mac, you don't have a purpose for it
Hey channel
Small question regarding container method, maybe someone here can point me in the right direction
I'm trying to find a way so i can set the homeassistant.local URL to be available locally on my network.. couldn't find an example of a docker.compose file...
I'm currently running HASS, Portainer, and duplicati
any suggestions are welcome
thanks!
That's handled by mDNS and requires that you name the host homeassistant
On Pi running HAOS, how would I go about enabling the WiFi as a second network ?
Others might weigh in on how to fo it, but I personally would not if you use zigbee sticks as it might interfere
I'm not even sure if it's possible
Agreed on Zigbee, the stick is away from the Pi
Well, theres a setting to add the network, but I'm not sure how would work
Into settings , system, network
Would I be better off using a hardwired USB stick for the second net ?
Check the configure network interface
Wifi, then scan access point
Wired > WiFi for any server
Won't be a server just pulling some vid off of some cams ... agree Hardwire>Wifi
Assuming I have a USB stick then...is there a way to incorporate a second net in HAOS ?
Oh, so you want access to both network at once?
yes exactly
Im not sure you can do that, but maybe it would be something better handled in your network rather than double your connection
You have two different routers?
yes a couple of them I guess maybe a VLan would better in this case
my cameras are sandboxed as they have a yearning to call home...Wireshark confirms this
Had to google the meaning of yearning to understand this. But understand yoir dedication in lookijg ar your camera traffic
Hello guys, what do I do with this phase? https://i.imgur.com/ObGEMsV.png I don't know what command should I apply so I can get started.
I don't know what kind of system you're using, but you would continue to follow the installation instructions to access HA via your web browser
Step 4, regardless of how you installed: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi#start-up-your-raspberry-pi
Is it normal for me to wait for the Home Assistant CLI to be ready? It's taking a lot of time. I'm using virtual box in my Windows 10.
I'm running HA on a RPi. I change over from a SD-card to a HD and now I'm not able to connect to wifi any more. In Settings - System - Network - WLAN0 - Wifi HA is reporting that it is connected with my wifi, but in my router (fixed IP) I do not see it. Under Network Adapter only eth0 is listed. Does any own have an idea what can be the problem?
Hello,
I tried to install Home Assistant on Intel nuc5ppyh and the first attempt failed. The system does not boot. I am wondering if there is any special way to install it and how to do it?
VLAN is a much better and far more reliable solution...
Which wall switch is compatible with HA in India?
Wondering if anyone had any ideas on this? Never got any responses a few weeks ago.
What's the reason you are running supervised and not haos?
bumping in case someone can assist π
running supervised install on a generic intel NUC. recently updated to 2022.7.5. now when i try to access home assistant i get the message "Unable to connect to Home Assistant. Retrying in xx seconds..."
I can ssh into the NUC just fine. I have a full backup from before the upgrade, but i'm not sure how to restore it, if that's possible from the command line.
i guess i just reinstall and then restore snapshot from the UI
You know, there was a reason for it back when I installed it a couple months ago, but for the life of me I can't recall what it was. I know I tried both methods when I was originally attempting to boot from the SSD (instead of the SD card) and couldn't get either to work with the Argon One case I had. I think I just defaulted to the Supervised install when I threw in the towel and installed on the SD card.
You might want to retry installing haos, it would make your life way easier
hello, i cant boot system with Home Assistant
What is the error/problem?
idk how
kernel panic
That's still only two words, people need more than that
Did you try it in single user mode? Does it boot there?
I recently reverted a HASSOS inbuilt backup on a Rpi3B+ (Other than startingup issues with DNS/internet setup on a new installation, it took quite a time to revert, even though worked fine)
- Can i say fastest way is taking full card image and burning back?
- Any other good(less hassles)/less-time-consuming options?
I've restored multiple backup from dead to fresh install without issues
Internet is full of RPi new HAOS installation & DNS issue leading to "Preparing Home Assistant" error which remains stuck forever
Finally got the solution(not a minor fix anyway): https://community.home-assistant.io/t/solution-to-a-hanged-preparing-home-installation-screen-during-new-install-on-a-raspberry-pi-4-dns-fix/273803
Anyway, even after that reverting just a 100mb backup with 6 addons took more 15-20minutes. So i am searching for better methods. Card imaging is one someone advised. Nice. Any other hassle free one?
Yeah, I didt it on an intel nuc and it takes like 30 to 60 seconds with 15-20 addons
Anyone that ran in to this problem and found another solution? Currently stuck with /etc/resolv.conf being empty everytime i reboot https://community.home-assistant.io/t/installing-home-assistant-supervised-on-debian-11-ip-address-not-being-assigned/419603/14
Rpi3b+ HAOS running fine on LAN for months. First time connected to Wifi
Stats like process,temperature etc not showing up. Became static line (saw some time zone issues in nodered addon too) . thomasloven at frontend (#frontend-archived message) suggested a HA Database issue.
DashBoard pic -> https://ibb.co/BgZt3xJ
I rebooted and then reconnected LAN and it starts shows statistics. (DB can't corrupt and get well by itself, so weird)
Connection is Ipv4 only (as required like lan) & no signal issues (all is normal on LAN connection. Same Modem cum router, same static IP settings on both LAN and Wifi, nothing changed)
Hello! I'm having issues with finishing Home Assistant installation on Ubuntu Virtual Machine.
It seems like it cannot find some servers or something, do I need to configure something differently?
Check out image of errors, it keeps repeating:
https://i.imgur.com/hzNOMo2.png
Please share text as text, not images
Hang on, I'll post in code block.
I think I'm checking from this before, maybe it helps me:
https://community.home-assistant.io/t/solution-to-a-hanged-preparing-home-installation-screen-during-new-install-on-a-raspberry-pi-4-dns-fix/273803

