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humble mirage
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Your home network uses 192.168.1.x?

winged atlas
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exactly

humble mirage
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Check the Ubuntu firewall settings

winged atlas
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strange thing, i cant access my router on 192.168.1.1 - will restart my pc now, wtf

sleek geyser
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Ah ok so it seems my pi2 issue is that it's trying to pull and start the supervisor but is failing

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Could be apparmor denied? Can't see anything obvious in journal logs

humble mirage
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You are using Home Assistant OS?

sleek geyser
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Yeah

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Fresh install from the image

humble mirage
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Then there's nothing you can/should be messing with there

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humble mirage
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Use one of those to share the log file that shows the issues

sleek geyser
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Unfortunately I can't get the logs off the pi at the moment. I think it fails because of "s6-overlay-exec: Permission denied" in /init on the supervisor container.

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So ends up in a loop of supervisord trying to start it

humble mirage
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If you've not yet got onboarding the HA port should give you a blue dot

high token
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Dev builds are built at 2-3am or so right? So if the issue is on Core 2022.6.0.dev20220511 I should be looking at the commits from the 10th? 🤔

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or maybe they include commits up to the time it's pushed? so it could be some commits from the 11th too?

humble mirage
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2-3 am which timezone 😛

high token
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it's always UTC 😛

humble mirage
high token
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I was afraid it's classed as a support question 👀

humble mirage
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Yeah, but you're running dev... so you should know all the answers already zany

high token
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That's just what is weird. I have looked at the commits already (eventh of the 11th) and cannot find any relevance to stream not working

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can always just open an issue that's not the problem. I just rather find it first

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anyway, I'm done. you can ask your question now typing person 😛

charred solar
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Hello,
I am continuing with the installation of Home Assistant OS in my Synology within a VM, and I am having problems starting zigbee2mqtt. I think it does not detect the USB stick. I have configured the USB stick in the configuration of the VM to be visible. I can see the device in /dev/ttyACM0 in my Synology, but I look at it in the VM (using the SSH addon in HomeAssistant) I can´t see the device. I am not sure if it should appear there or have a different name...

humble mirage
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Does it show up in the hardware menu?

charred solar
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not in the hardware menu in HomeAssistant. I can only see::
Virtual Machine
ova
Restart the host Shutdown the host

high token
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3 dots on top right

charred solar
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yes, there I see the list, but it does not appear with that name, only ttyS0, S1, S2 and S3

humble mirage
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Then it sounds like it's not been passed through to the VM

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(though you should be looking for a /dev/serial/by-id/ path)

charred solar
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let me check that...

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no, that folder does not exist

humble mirage
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Then it sounds like it's not been passed through to the VM

charred solar
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ok, I´ll investigate that way. Thank you!

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sorted! it was just that I selected USB 3.0 instead of USB 2.0 🤦‍♂️

winged atlas
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@humble mirage just wanted to let you know, after pc restart its fine again. lol strange thing - thanks for your help!

lyric thicket
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hi all....I'm running HASSOS on proxmox. All is well, but suddenly after a recent reboot, my usb device is no longer being found by proxmox. Plugging and unplugging is not registering on dmesg when i plug or unplug. there are no usb devices available to bind when looking in the prox hardware tab on this pve.....Does anyone have any advice??

modern basalt
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So I've come to terms with the fact that running HA off my very busy NAS is likely to lose responsiveness and considering moving it to a dedicated Pi 4. Would I be fine to run off an SD card if I am using an external MariaDB server for history/recorder, and will only be running a few addons like VS Code Server/Google Drive Backup? Or am I still better off to install on an SSD?

midnight charm
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Hi, I'm trying to get the HA 8.0 vm image running on VirtualBox (windows host) for hours with no success, I'm always getting stuck on the "Preparing home assistent" page. Any tips? I also can't find any relevant error in the logs

dawn flame
modern basalt
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Was going to go the Docker route on my NAS but it's only a wee Celeron J3550 with 2 cores and is frequently at over 2.0 load due to disk writes, so wouldn't want my HA instance to suffer delays due to processor queueing.

dawn flame
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I ran it on my NAS for a while as well and never ran into an issue but decided to go with a more powerful machine for other reasons.

inland panther
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After upgrading to Home Assistant OS 8.0 (Home Assistant Core 2022.5.4), the Intel NUC that I'm running this on no longer grabs an IP Duong boot, and boot screen shows [FAILED] Failed to start Network Manager Wait Online. The CLI loads but doesn't list a IPv4 IP, and my router doesn't show it as connected (wired). I assume this has something to do with linux, but I'm completely at a losses to how to deal with it. If anyone has any suggestions, I'm definitely out of my depth here.

crude inlet
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@inland panther you've rebooted again to make sure?

inland panther
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Yup twice now.

crude inlet
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Is the VM's network adapter the same as it was before updating?

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In the network settings for the VM

inland panther
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I wrote the HAOS disk image directly to the SSD during install, but I think you're on to something, it's as though the update doesn't support myNIC

terse wharf
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So it seems like any other person starting out, I have installed, HAOS on raspberry pi directly, so don't have access to any linux commands, if iIcreate a backup now, and install raspbian and haos, will i be able to load my backup, and will all settings work that i have made so far?

humble mirage
terse wharf
humble mirage
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Yes

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Container is HA in Docker, no add-ons, no Supervisor

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HAOS is a whole OS package with the Supervisor and add-ons

sleek geyser
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Success installing HA in docker on Raspberry PI OS on my Pi2! All up and running just using the Docker install instructions rather than the HAOS ones. Maybe that will help someone sometime (It's not unusably slow either!)

tranquil shard
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Anyone willing to walk me through setting up HA Core on MacOS?
I followed the steps in HAs YouTube tutorial and the result is that my mac has no idea what the "hass" command is.

humble mirage
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Did you try the official docs?

tranquil shard
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Yes. For a while. It says to use apt-get, which doesn't work on mac. That was marvellous. Anyway I installed Homebrew and got pretty much nowhere anyway.

humble mirage
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You need to:

  1. Create a venv
  2. Activate the venv
  3. Install the software in the venv
  4. Always activate the venv when trying to start HA
tranquil shard
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Venv. Oh. That's the virtual thingy that was supposed to run in the Python thing in order to run the server thing.
I installed python and stuff.

humble mirage
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Maybe you should consider running HAOS in a VM

tranquil shard
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I did consider that. I'm also running Roon Core on my mac and don't want to slow it down unnecessarily. I read that the dual OS VN stuff is pretty heavy.

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(And I don't want another computer (pi) running all day as well as the mac.
Yeah, I pretty much gave up.

tranquil shard
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Good morning! Did I activate the virtual environment?

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ronnieericsson@tranquil shards-iMac ~ % sudo -u homeassistant -H -s
cd /srv/homeassistant
python3 -m venv .
source bin/activate
Password:
homeassistant@tranquil shards-iMac ronnieericsson %

inland panther
humble mirage
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Best is personal, and about you

humble mirage
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I'd suggest that for most folks one of HAOS (where you don't want to run things outside of add-ons) or Container (where you want control of your host) are "best"

tranquil shard
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I think I may have though. Installed things. Let's have a look further!

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python3 -m pip install wheel
WARNING: The directory '/Users/homeassistant/Library/Caches/pip' or its parent directory is not owned or is not writable by the current user. The cache has been disabled. Check the permissions and owner of that directory. If executing pip with sudo, you should use sudo's -H flag.
Collecting wheel
Downloading wheel-0.37.1-py2.py3-none-any.whl (35 kB)
Installing collected packages: wheel
Nice -right? Nice.

humble mirage
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Well, that's at most installed just wheel

tranquil shard
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I like wheel

humble mirage
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Did you install HA though?

tranquil shard
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homeassistant@tranquil shards-iMac ronnieericsson % pip3 install homeassistant
WARNING: The directory '/Users/homeassistant/Library/Caches/pip' or its parent directory is not owned or is not writable by the current user. The cache has been disabled. Check the permissions and owner of that directory. If executing pip with sudo, you should use sudo's -H flag.

And then lots of "Requirement already satisfied: homeassistant in /Library/..." and so on

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humble mirage
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If hass doesn't work at that point, we need the output from that install

tranquil shard
humble mirage
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I wonder if the venv didn't at the bin folder to the path

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Try

./bin/hass
tranquil shard
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zsh: no such file or directory: ./bin/hass

humble mirage
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ls ./bin
tranquil shard
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ls: ./bin: No such file or directory

humble mirage
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Ok, so somewhere in all that you did a cd

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Or you're no longer the homeassistant user

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sudo -u homeassistant -H -s
source /srv/homeassistant/bin/activate
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Then just type hass

tranquil shard
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Hm. No. Maybe I didn't create that directory, because the suggested mkdir didn't work. 😄

humble mirage
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I'm confused as fuck about what you're doing then, since earlier you shared that you'd done:

% sudo -u homeassistant -H -s
cd /srv/homeassistant
python3 -m venv .
source bin/activate
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At least if you're going to copy and paste stuff, copy and paste reality, not what's in the docs

tranquil shard
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Oh. Yes, I did do that! (Didn't know what I was doing)

sudo -u homeassistant -H -s
source /srv/homeassistant/bin/activate
-no success. "Hass" is not recognized

humble mirage
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hass != Hass

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ls -al /srv/homeassistant/bin/
tranquil shard
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No uppercase letters were used in the Terminal

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homeassistant@tranquil shards-iMac ronnieericsson % ls -al /srv/homeassistant/bin/
ls: /srv/homeassistant/bin/: No such file or directory

humble mirage
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Well, you keep contradicting yourself

tranquil shard
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I do have a users/homeassistant folder with stuff in it. Perhaps that was already obvious. Can't see any "srv" though.

humble mirage
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Well, you need to work out what you're really doing, vs what you're posting here

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source /srv/homeassistant/bin/activate
``` if that works, then

ls -al /srv/homeassistant/bin/

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So, one of the things you're posting here is a work of fiction

tranquil shard
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I think I might have confused things by quoting the mkdir-part of the instructions. THAT was something I probably hadn't done before, but I did create the directory after activating the vnev.

humble mirage
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Before

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Order matters

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Go back to the beginning, follow the instructions step by step, and if you're not creating the venv under /srv/homeassistant you need to keep a track of what you're doing and translate - and tell us what you're really doing

tranquil shard
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Okay! Step #1: Install Python 3.9 and python3-dev
How can I check if that had been done properly?

humble mirage
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python3.9 --version

tranquil shard
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That was not supposed to go in the Terminal, was it? 😄
homeassistant@tranquil shards-iMac ronnieericsson % python3.9 --version
zsh: command not found: python3.9

humble mirage
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Then you don't have Python 3.9 installed

tranquil shard
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oh

humble mirage
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Maybe you have 3.10 installed

tranquil shard
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Python 3.10.4
Good? Bad?

humble mirage
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Fine

tranquil shard
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Step #2:
sudo apt-get update
sudo apt-get upgrade -y

can't do those. apt-get not work.

humble mirage
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This is an advanced installation process, and some steps might differ on your system. Considering the nature of this installation type, we assume you can handle subtle differences between this document and the system configuration you are using. When in doubt, please consider one of the other installation methods, as they might be a better fit instead.

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Do the equivalent for Mac

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Same for the next step

tranquil shard
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I installed Homebrew to be able to do those, but I don't know the syntax. Do you happen to know?
I learned that the commands start with "brew"...

humble mirage
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I don't use Mac

tranquil shard
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wise

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Is it the vnev I'm trying to upgrade and update?

humble mirage
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Create/upgrade

tranquil shard
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I remember now. Here's where the fun began.
"homeassistant@tranquil shards-iMac ronnieericsson % sudo brew update
Password:
Error: Running Homebrew as root is extremely dangerous and no longer supported."

humble mirage
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So check the docs/forums/Mac Discords for what do to?

tame harness
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as u can see, i posted my conf but I'm not able to solve it

viscid sigil
tame harness
viscid sigil
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That is not what I asked. I aske you to compare your router's public IP with the IP address reported by the DuckDNS admin website. And that's now four times.

humble mirage
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Blindly throwing answers at the screen in the hope you get lucky just frustrates everybody

tame harness
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and yes

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it's the same IP Address

tame harness
sacred geyser
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I've a question for people running HA supervised: does your HA automatically restart after a docker-ce update?

Mine doesn't, but I'm not sure if that's by design

raw hedge
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No idea but I would hope containers would persist and keep running after a runtime update

sacred geyser
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All containers are stopped before the docker update, but surprisingly the HA containers do not restart

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They don't have a restart 'always' or 'unless-stopped' set, but I'd expect the supervisor to start the containers

hollow cave
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Hello, I installed Maria db and phpmyadmin on Home Assistant OS. I wonder if this really increases the performance of the home assistant and if it simply makes it possible to save the history of connected objects for longer?

high token
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define longer though. MariaDB for me is definitely better than the default SQLite anyway. Although arguably sqlite in HA has come a long way these days compares to like a year or two ago

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but with either of those it also depends on the number of entities you have

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If you are thinking to keep more than say a month, I'd look into Influx instead

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I have MariaDB for HA itself but I also have more than 1000 entities so it's at 4.5GB. Works fine. But I also have InfluxDB for the things I want to keep long term

hollow cave
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I would have liked to try to limit access to the secret.yaml file, could Maria db be a solution? Moreover I think that Home Assistant itself regularly deletes the history of entities, being on a virtual machine not being limited in resources I have the impression that it is useless

humble mirage
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No, it's a YAML file, nothing that can be loaded from a database

weary jay
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does anybody know if it's required to reinstall and repair all zigbee devices if a firmware update is performed to the coordinator? particularly the Sonoff dongle plus 3.0... thank you!

humble mirage
weary jay
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not sure if I should restart or what to do

humble mirage
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#zigbee-archived can help, if you tell people whether you're using ZHA or Zigbee2MQTT

weary jay
humble mirage
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Go there

weary jay
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got it... thank you!

novel blaze
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so i did choose postgresql recorder since i already use it at home and have lots of 'unused memory'. if i set purge_keep_days: 7 - would it purge even if sensor/some other integration/instance is absent?

snow steppe
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can anyone help I cant add the home assistant to my home kit i scan the code but it just cant connect

humble mirage
novel blaze
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i have nuc7pjyh with 2x16gb ram + 960gb ssd. enough for running all home services 🙂

humble mirage
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That setting controls how much history is kept in the database, anything over 7 days would be purged based on that setting

novel blaze
humble mirage
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What?

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It purges it based on the timestamp for when it was recorded

novel blaze
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just wanted to make sure that it will purge everything past 7d

rare fossil
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Hello. The file editor has an icon for git operations. Where can we configure things like remotes?

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through the terminal, I guess?

rare fossil
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Ok, got it.

vale totem
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Hello. I am on my mac osx desktop. I have downloaded the vmware fusion 12 after registering for it. I installed it and used this website to try to install per instructions the .vdi but fusion says I don't have permissions to activate the .vdi. Seems liked i'm limited in some way. https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/macos

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Here is what I get when trying to install the above. The host does not support virtualizing real mode. {The intel VMX Unrestricted Guest feature is necessary to run this virtual maching on an intell processor Module cpudearly power on failed. Failed to start the virtual machine.} Any help is greatly appreciated

orchid pebble
waxen fractal
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can we install hass on an android phone?

manic bane
cerulean umbra
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Hi all, just starting the home assistant journey, have been playing with IFTTT and google code for years but time to "uncloud" my automations and scripts, still reading up on the process and such but ive got a AIO screen here thats probably perfect for running home assistant on

waxen fractal
cerulean umbra
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is there any way to tell if the first boot of HA has locked up or is still in progress?

grand pivot
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You can click the blue dot

cerulean umbra
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All i've got so far is to command line where is says " [drm] initialized simple drm " and it appears to hang...... i'm not seeing a blue dot (ive tried googling to no avail)

manic bane
waxen fractal
cerulean umbra
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Not sure where to put this info but "Balena Etcher" appears to have issues with large drives (in my case a 256gb SSD) so I've had to extract the image and use rufus to write it to the disk

cerulean umbra
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Im giving up as with 3 diferent USBs and two diferent systems i cant get the HA to boot.... ill try again another day.

tame harness
# tame harness it's the same IP Address

I was trying with NGYNX exploring this path and checking if this would be the Solution but the result was the same. In local i can access with https://localIP:8123 but externali ( in and out of my wifi network) with https://****.duckdns.org:8123 I'm not able to acces to HA

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I don't know what I can do to solve that..

humble mirage
echo glade
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Can I run other containers on HAOS? Or do I need to do another form of install?

humble mirage
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You'd need another form of install - HAOS (and Supervised if you were daft enough to run it) only support using add-ons for other software

heavy sleet
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this cant be good i assume?

170 second startup time for the Scripts module

tame harness
humble mirage
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Is 37 223 x y the same as DuckDNS admin

modern basalt
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How long does restoring from a backup generally take onto a Pi 4? Backup tar is around 150mb.

high token
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15-30 min. Depends on internet speed and how fast the storage is to some degree

modern basalt
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What's internet got to do with it? Backup is local.

high token
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it has to download the images for each addon and HA (if you are restoring a different version)

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the data inside are local but the images are not included (otherwise it wouldn't be so small either)

modern basalt
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Ahh fair. Makes sense. Addons were just VS Code and Google Drive backup. But makes sense if it has to download the entire HA image again.

high token
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the HA Core not HAOS though

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which isn't actually that large in size

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do you not have SSH access or directly with a keyboard?

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the Supervisor logs would give you an idea at what stage it's at

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also common mistake if you are restoring a backup that has SSL certificates you need to change to https:// now

modern basalt
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No head on it, and SSH is "connection refused"

high token
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was SSH working before?

modern basalt
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No idea unfortunately. Been ages since I would have SSH'd in. Is it even possible to disable SSH via config?

high token
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SSH would be tricky actually

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it's an addon

modern basalt
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Will see if I have a long-ass HDMI to perhaps connect up my TV.

high token
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I assume you had access to at first and now you're at the point where the UI went down and hasn't come back up?

modern basalt
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Yeah, OS initially installed fine. Thought there was an option to restore from backup at the onboarding stage, but made me create user/name/location first. Then uploaded backup/restore. Then nothing.

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Setup in the backup had an internal URL and an external URL set up. Internal was IP, external was a dynamic DNS reverse proxy address.

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Turns out it was just taking a while. All back up and fine now 🙂

sinful hedge
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where can i get some info about dependencies that have to be satisfied for home assistant basic package, on arch linux ? I installed it and it complains about zero conf and default_config failing
Installed avahi, enabled avahi-daemon service, but still fail with zeroconf
i installed a very minimal arch on a tiny pc
https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/semekosabo.apache

manic bane
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@sinful hedge to confirm, you installing supervised or core?

sinful hedge
manic bane
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So you don’t want to use one of the supported install methods?

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Core or docker are still reasonably light weight

sinful hedge
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nah, docker will use unnecessary ram. core.. i believe this is the packaged version for arch, but it seems they used a git tag. i got Home Assistant 2022.4.6

humble mirage
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Docker's overhead is insignificant

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Unless you're running on a toaster you'll never notice it

dawn flame
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Docker is the way to go....

modern basalt
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After wrangling docker on my NAS all weekend, definitely agree docker is great. Ended up dedicating a Pi to HAOS though. NAS has very frequent IO spikes and didn't want HA to suffer.

sinful hedge
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does HA need Network Manager to work properly ?

humble mirage
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Home Assistant Core, the software, doesn't care about that

sinful hedge
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i did a HA restart from web, no errors in log after.. but I had them after reboot

humble mirage
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Then there's a problem with your daemon/service management

sinful hedge
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rebooted.. errors in log again

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sinful hedge
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I wish I could update it first, maybe some bugs that got fixed in the last month

manic bane
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If you used docker you wouldn't have those issues...

sinful hedge
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I wanna try and figure it out more than I want to have it "just work" at this point 🙂

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it's not that a messy package to have in docker. Like zoneminder

humble mirage
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The assumption is that if you're picking Core you can troubleshoot dependency issues

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You need to start at the top of the log and troubleshoot

modern basalt
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The errors seem pretty obvious, even to someone who doesn't have any real linux experience. You need to set up an ipv4 address/let HA use your eth adapter, and zeroconf I believe is a daemon or something for networking. Zeroconf may even prevent the IPv4 error by the nature of what it does.

sinful hedge
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i do have an ipv4 address, how else would I access it over the web

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but its set by systemd networking, not netctl or NM

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let HA use my eth adapter ?

modern basalt
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Just readin' what the log says.

humble mirage
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Look further up the log, see what the problem is

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Then try to manually install the missing package in the venv, and see what libraries you're missing

sinful hedge
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python-zeroconf seems to handle that, no need fo avahi

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ok, again, afteR ha RestaRt, all looks good in logs

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I get a notification that new devices have been found in netwoRk, instead of log ones

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git+https://github.com/home-assistant/home-assistant.git#tag=${_tag}

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changed tag in pkgbuild to recent stable one, trying to reinstall.. (since autoupdate wont go)

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==> ERROR: Unrecognized reference: wtag=2022.5.4

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hm so it needs a hash kind of tag

sinful hedge
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yep, that did the trick. not sure whats going on with arch, found several out of date pkgs in community

near halo
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So just to try homeassistant out, would installing it on a vps have chances of working? With site to site vpn?

humble mirage
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For some value of work

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Unless that's a fully bridged VPN expect anything that uses discovery/bonjour/mDNS to fail to work

near halo
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I might try it sometime we'll see

humble mirage
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Spin it up in a local VM, you'll have a better experience

near halo
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Doesn't work sadly :P

humble mirage
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That's pretty unusual, unless you've got a load of filtering going on

near halo
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PC uses WiFi so I need to use bridge on virtualbox and yeah...

humble mirage
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Ah... vBOX

near halo
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Anything google and such doesn't show up

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Tried the rest too but that didn't seem to work

humble mirage
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Bridged WiFi can work, with vBOX - I'm using it just now, but it's a PITA

near halo
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As I read it it wasn't possible but it would be a lot easier if I can get it to work :P

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Hue and such does work but that's about it

humble mirage
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It "just worked", though it did take me a while to get it and Windows 11 playing together

unknown.png
near halo
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I'm on windows 10 maybe that's the difference?

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Trying to bridge failed every time I think the VM didn't even get an IP

brazen plover
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Hi guys, I figured I could post here before on the subreddit. I want to have a more stable HA installation where I can use the addon store for easier discovery

I have a Pi 3B that I was using previously, but it was a bit slow and chewed up SD cards quickly.

I have a Windows 10 PC (Home edition) that is always on, but I've heard you can't use Docker for Windows with HA (and also Docker version doesn't have the addon store)

Is my best option a NUC running the home assistant OS, or a linux box running Docker?

Basically I want a small upgrade from the Pi 3B experience, and I have a Windows media PC always on. Anything I can do with my current hardware?

raw hedge
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bridging on wifi... is anoying as hell, it depends on if your wifi drivers support it etc

humble mirage
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Many don't

charred pasture
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can the sqlite3 cli tool be installed w/o issue on HAOS?

humble mirage
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You could install it in the SSH add-on

charred pasture
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pacman isn't there. Looks like a build from source...

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or is there a branded HAOS pkg mgr?

humble mirage
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I think it uses apk

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There's an option in the UI for packages to add, from memory

charred pasture
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ty

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much appreciated

sleek geyser
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Oh weird. Bunch of integrations that were previously fine now complaining of missing modules... forecast_solar, sonos, cloud, mobile_app and a couple others 🤔

humble mirage
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What's your install method?

sleek geyser
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Docker on raspberry pi os

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Did just add hacs though so going to disable that and restart.

grand pivot
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then it depends on what sort of "missing modules" errors you're getting. you really shouldn't see that with a Docker install

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it's possible that you installed HACS incorrectly, or you have an error in your config and it's not really complaining about missing modules, but integrations failing to load

sleek geyser
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Yeah possible. Investigating...

mellow plume
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Is anyone experiencing issues with the upgrade to haos8? It messed up my installation on my pi (cm4 with nvme ssd) 7.6 seems to run fine. The upgrade starts then at the reboot I have no display and the system hangs.......

charred pasture
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I updated recently in-place to 8 w/ a Pi4-4GB

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aside from the very long backup, it went unattended.

humble mirage
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There have been other reports of issues, there's at least one issue on GitHub

mellow plume
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Strange.... The only thing different for a nvme setup on the CM4 is the bootconf is set to 6 first (nvme) That is all that's different from say an emmc installation

charred pasture
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eMMC != nvme

mellow plume
charred pasture
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I wonder if that just wasn't accounted for in the upgrade

mellow plume
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thanks for the heads up

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They forgot to add the nvme drivers.... seems I can replace the u-boot.bin file and it should boot again.

charred pasture
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was the nvme your driver to go to the CM?

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or just what you had around?

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(my curiosity only)

mellow plume
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It was yes. I wanted more speed that emmc and more reliability than sdcard. It was running great for the last three months. 🙂

echo glade
grand pivot
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Depends on the device you're using. The container install is the obvious choice, but I run HAOS in a KVM on an Ubuntu machine, where I run other stuff

solar yarrow
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👋 How backup's are working? Trying to restore, but seems nothing changes after 😣

echo glade
grand pivot
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so those are both options

echo glade
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I think running Ubuntu server with docker would be a good choice for me then 🙂

uncut fern
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Can I use the ISO to install on a KVM-based hypervisor? The qcow2 isn't working for me

grand pivot
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A different format won't help. qcow2 should work

plush fog
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what about esxi free? There is/was an ova image available then use can just upgrade to latest. Snapshot. Poweroff VM backup VM dir etc. Similar to RobC KVM

nocturne canyon
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Here is what I'd like to do. I have an old Vivint Alarm System. Ultimately I'd like to use an extra unused tablet in place of my Vivint SkyPanel to "hook" into HomeAssistant and monitor my devices, cameras, sensor, lights and other smart devices I have in place. The majority of the Vivint devices are unusable without the Vivint Service due to proprietary hardware/software/firmware. So I started to replace the cameras and other devices with more "open" products (ONIVF cameras, etc) Now if I recall correctly the door sensors and motion sensor are z-wave. Does this mean that I'd have to add a z-wave radio dongle to my HomeAssistant machine? Am I on the right track? Can these sensors be reused?

I have a mix of HUE, TP-Link, Amazon Echo, Google Home, Nest, iRobot Roomba and a few generic devices. So far just about all of them are seen on HomeAssistant. A couple like the NEST Thermostat need some "extra" config steps (BLASTED google) IF I don't want to fool with a lot of Google tinkering in their dev console, what doorbell would be recommended other than the Nest one?

I have two SmartLocks from Vivint as well. I really don't know much about them other than they are Kwikset 888 with z-wave technology. I'd like to reuse those if possible but not opposed to replacing them because we have no actual keys.

Also, a good place for some step-by-step instructions for HomeAssistant (Videos preferred) would be of GREAT help. The few that I have found are VERY general, miss a lot of info or are for older versions or just go WAY too fast to follow. I'm an old fart, I'm getting slower in my old age. 😉

naive meadow
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what do you guys use for virtualization? On recommendation from @lime cobalt I've just bought I micro pc that has windows 10 installed. I'd kinda prefer to not use windows at all. But before I install some server OS I'd like to hear what you guys prefer?

humble mirage
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Proxmox

naive meadow
# humble mirage Proxmox

Awesome. I was looking at proxmox. It's an OS in itself yeah? Got the impression though that i have to have clean harddrives to install the actual vms on?

humble mirage
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Yeah, it's basically Debian + KVM + a web UI. You need storage for the VMs, but it's not a case of having to dedicate a hard drive to each VM

naive meadow
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alright cool. Do you set up certs for the server?

humble mirage
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What do you mean?

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SSL certs for the Proxmox UI?

naive meadow
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yeah

humble mirage
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I didn't bother, it's all local only so the default certs are fine

naive meadow
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right

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Alright thanks. I'll give proxmox a try

humble mirage
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Is the light switch also Z-Wave?

full anchor
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Sorry Tinkerer, i'll move the message there. I'm newish to HA and this channel

spring prism
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Hi, i'm fairly new to Home assistant. Had it installed on my nas (synology) via docker. (this worked) but I learned that it's much easier to use conbee 2 and zigbee stuff with raspberry pi. So I followed these steps: https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi/ however it didn't seem to work. I was connected via my unifi network. (on the synology nas, this worked). but with raspberry pi it doesn't, i connected directly to my router (telenet = internet provider) then it worked, can't i use my raspberry pi within my unifi network?

humble mirage
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You should be able to, though honestly I'd say keep using the NAS for HA, and buy a network connected #zigbee-archived coordinator

coral sable
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where can I get the docker image for rpi

humble mirage
coral sable
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dont see a download for the image

humble mirage
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You don't download the image, you pass the details to Docker

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ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable

coral sable
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docker.errors.DockerException: Error while fetching server API version: ('Connection aborted.', PermissionError(13, 'Permission denied'))

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what is this

humble mirage
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Sounds like a problem with your host/network connection

coral sable
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my network is fine

humble mirage
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Or you're not running it as a user with permissions on the host

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docker pull ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable
stable: Pulling from home-assistant/home-assistant
``` just fine here
coral sable
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yup forgot to reboot after adding to group so had to do sudo

humble mirage
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Reboot?

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🤣

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Log off, log in

coral sable
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does docker run itself on startup or do I have to run it on my own

dawn flame
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If it's set up properly, it will run on it's own.

placid sage
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I'm running the Hyper-V image but it seems like this OS is missing apt and wget...

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any idea how I can install them?

humble mirage
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You don't

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You're running an appliance like setup

placid sage
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there has to be a way, there's a beta package I want to install

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how else do I install HACS

humble mirage
placid sage
humble mirage
crude inlet
placid sage
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no, a different one

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but I need HACs for the beta package lol

placid sage
crude inlet
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Just follow the install docs

humble mirage
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  1. Go to the Add-on store
  2. Install one of the SSH add-ons (you need to enable advanced mode in your user profile to see them)
placid sage
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tyvm

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I got it 🙂

humble mirage
placid sage
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thanks

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I was on the normal integrations page 🙂

worn lark
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Hi, I want to restore a backup that I made but now I don't get the restore dialog when i click on the backup on homeassitant frontend

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However when I created the backup on the previous installation the dialog appeared

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I'm running it with docker and the version is 2022.5.5

abstract hearthBOT
high token
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HA Container doesn't have a restore option

worn lark
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Oh

high token
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you need the Supervisor for restoring one

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you can create a backup to restore in a HAOS installation

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but it's just a compressed file really

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you can just untar it get the files and replace them manually into your config folder

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the same way you'd do it before this

worn lark
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ok so practically it would be only unzipping and moving the unzipped content to the config folder of ha?

high token
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yeah

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but making sure it's everything including any hidden folder like .storage

spring prism
worn lark
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ok great thanks will try it now

high token
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make a backup of the original folder you'll be overriding 😅

worn lark
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I will^^

humble mirage
worn lark
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arn't addons also supported on homeassistant when running in a container?

humble mirage
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No

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Add-ons require the Supervisor

worn lark
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uff

humble mirage
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They exist to allow people who use HAOS to install software

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If you run Container then it's assumed you can add some lines to your Docker Compose file

worn lark
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so the best option is to not use the docker image of ha

humble mirage
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"Best" is always personal

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Add-ons bring nothing you can't do yourself

worn lark
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like the mqtt addon now one would need to add it to the yaml instead browsing the ui

humble mirage
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Sure

worn lark
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are there any docs how one can add these configs to the yaml?

humble mirage
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Well, you add them to your Docker Compose file, that's got nothing to do with HA

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The integrations are the same

worn lark
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ok i see

abstract hearthBOT
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#integrations-archived integrate Home Assistant with devices or services, or provide functionality within Home Assistant.

#add-ons-archived provide additional software or services, which an integration could possibility integrate with. Add-ons are for Home Assistant OS and Supervised only, other install methods can install software other ways.

Command '~integration' was invoked by: Tinkerer
naive meadow
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😬

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when trying to install Proxmox I get this window telling me there is "no support for kvm virtualization detected check bios settings for intel vt"

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#gettinglostinthebios

worn lark
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your motherboard has to support virtualization

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have you enabled it?

naive meadow
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ohhhhh

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so maybe it just doesn't support it 🥲

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Well no I haven't enabled anything yet

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Trying to find the place to do it 😅

worn lark
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its in the bios

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when you start your pc you have to press one of your f* keys or delete key and enter the bios and enabled it there

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if it is supported by your mb

naive meadow
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Found it 🥰

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Which filesystem are you guys using? It's set to ext4 per default

humble mirage
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ext4 is fine

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ZFS rocks, but has somewhat higher requirements

naive meadow
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cool

toxic cedar
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Anyone run their setup on vSphere? I have been debating moving over there to give more options, but I am curious to hear if it works first. I am going to be using Z-Wave and Zigbee devices on it, if that makes a difference. If it does work, any advice on moving a large amount of configuration from the OS install? Was quite a pain to set up and I would rather not have to deal with it again...

silent notch
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I just moved my HA installation from an old rpi3 to a Mac. HA is running fine except for MQTT.

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I get a connection refused error in my zigbeetomqtt log. My devices are all seen so I thought it was just a password/user issue. But I confirmed that the mqtt username and pw are correct. Anything else it might be?

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The exact error is:

Zigbee2MQTT:info 2022-05-19 12:28:11: Connecting to MQTT server at mqtt://core-mosquitto:1883
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-05-19 12:28:11: MQTT failed to connect: Connection refused: Not authorized
Zigbee2MQTT:error 2022-05-19 12:28:11: Exiting...

humble mirage
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That looks entirely like a username/password issue

silent notch
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That's exactly what I was thinking even though this was a full backup restore. I've done this from rpi3 to rpi3 but never rpi3 to Mac. But I was assuming that shouldn't matter. To be safe, I deleted the local user (from within HA), and then recreated it. Then restarted zigbee2mqtt and mqtt broker. Anything else I should do?

humble mirage
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Put the same details (other than core-mosquitto obviously, use the IP of the host) into MQTT Explorer (running on Windows) and see what happens

silent notch
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Thanks .I'll try that... I just need to install the app first.

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Yes, getting the same error. I'm going to just create a whole new local user and see if that helps

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new user didn't help. one that I noticed in the Mosquitto broker log is this error1652989240: New connection from 172.30.33.2:37600 on port 1883.
1652989240: Client <unknown> disconnected, not authorised.

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That IP address isn't mine. Could this be an issue with my VM network settings?

humble mirage
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That's the Docker network IP

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Your problem may relate to the password, if you've got special characters in there

silent notch
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superbasic... just numbers and letters to keep it simple for testing

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The strange this is that I'm just restoring from a backup. I've done this several times before and no issues. The only difference is that I'm restoring to a Mac. But the odd thing is that everything else works (all other integrations, HACS, addons, etc). Only MQTT isn't working

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If I uninstall and resinstall zigbee2mqtt, will I lose my devices settings?

humble mirage
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If you restore it from backup you won't

silent notch
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But if I uninstall zigbee2mqtt by itself now, I'm assuming yes? I just can't figure out what might be the problem...

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So I'm thinking worst case, I'm just readd my devices. About 15 so not horrible is that's the only way to solve things

humble mirage
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The problem relates to your MQTT broker,not Z2M

naive meadow
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@humble mirage I've installed ProxMox but apparently it wont connect via ethernet - have you experienced this?

humble mirage
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No, worked for me

silent notch
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Got it. I actually uninstalled and reinstalled that too.

toxic cedar
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So no ideas on vSphere as a platform?

humble mirage
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No reason it won't work

toxic cedar
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Any ideas on transferring all the configuration over?

humble mirage
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Take a backup, restore the backup

toxic cedar
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Okay, so take a backup of the current system, pull it off, do a bare install with a single account, then restore from it?

humble mirage
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If you're going from HAOS to HAOS the platform you run on is irrelevant

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The backup you take on any install can be restored to any other install

toxic cedar
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Huh... Thought that would be harder...

humble mirage
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Nah, it's pretty straightforward

naive meadow
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Ok so i apparently needed to get my router to give me an ip

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with this command: dhclient eno1

silent notch
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I've tried uninstalling and reinstalling mosquitto broker, and even create a user / pw of user1 / 1234 to keep this simple but I still get connection refused when zigbee2mqtt tries to connect to the broker. Anything else I can try? It like like a username / password issue but I'm absolutely sure they are correct.

humble mirage
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As before, try the details in MQTT Explorer

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Until that works, Z2M won't

silent notch
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ok, got it. Even if I create a new user, I still can get MQTT Explorer to connect.

humble mirage
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still can? or can't?

silent notch
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Sorry... still can't

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No matter what I do, I can't log into MQTT broker. So to test, I restarted my rpi3 (same version as full backup restored to mac) and it connects fine

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And mqtt broker connects fine to my old rpi3

humble mirage
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Then assuming that's the add-on broker, I'd head over to #add-ons-archived for help getting it sorted

silent notch
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got it. Thanks.

brazen hound
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Which two libs did you downgrade to get past the ImportError for contextfilter (jinja2)

coral sable
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I found it on reddit

worn lark
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so i installed ha os supervised on my pi4 now, to be able to use it also for other things besides only ha and having the supervisor

sleek cipher
silent notch
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I keep on getting this error: "ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Can't update Home Assistant access token!" I also can't backup or restore since HA thinks I'm in "startup mode". I just restored a full backup to a virtual machine on a Mac (from an rpi3 installation). Most stuff is working but this error blocks stuff (eg, sidebar can't be edits). Any way of fixing this? I tried core repair and some other suggestions but nothing seems to work now. Could my original full backup from rpi3 be bad?

amber mason
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Hello, I'm from the French community and I've had a problem for quite some time, and I couldn't find anything in the documentation to fix it. Anyone have an idea? If necessary, do you have the procedure to save my data before reinstalling everything from 0 . Thanks in advance.

abstract hearthBOT
grand pivot
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As to your issue, I would look in known_devices.yaml and see if you have a stale device in there. I suspect there's some corrupt or outdated entry in there

amber mason
echo glade
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I'm having a really weird issue with HA's "Home" zone. It's saying I can't edit it because Zones configured via configuration.yaml cannot be edited via the UI. but it doesn't exist anywhere on my disk except inside .storage/core.config which I don't think I'm supposed to touch directly. Any ideas what's going on?

echo glade
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oh, now I see it in Settings > System > General… but again I can't edit it because Editor disabled because config stored in configuration.yaml.

placid mortar
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anyone running HA VM on a intel nuc? What model did you choose?

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I'm thinking of using a nuc so I can not only run HA but other things

burnt vault
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Hello, We are using a custom Home assistant frontend built and in config.yaml mentioned this new path to use as a home assistant frontend. Now when I initialize home assistant it is again downloading the home-assistant-frontend pip package.
Is there a way to not allow to again download it ?

humble mirage
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That'll be because it's mentioned in the requirements, somewhere

burnt vault
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yes in requirements_all.txt it is mentioned. What if I remove that? Won't that cause the frontend component not load properly?

humble mirage
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Well, you've said you don't want that package downloaded... so, do you want it, or not?

burnt vault
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I don't want the pip package but the custom-built frontend folders to be used.

humble mirage
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Then remove it from the requirements?

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Don't forget that frontend: is part of default_config

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I'm also assuming you've handled the whole API part to ensure it doesn't break

burnt vault
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I didnt understand what do you mean by whole API part ?

humble mirage
burnt vault
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API part is not an issue I guess.
The only doubt is if I remove frontend from default_config, there wouldn't be an issue for the frontend that I mentioned in config,yaml

humble mirage
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As long as you're not using frontend: for yours, and you've actually handled the API, I don't expect there to be an issue

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However, as with all such things... try it and see what happens

tranquil shard
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Installing HA Core on MacOS I've managed to create the VENV and run "hass", but it seems like my homeassistant user doesn't own the homeassistant users folders? Help me figure out what's going on?
https://dpaste.org/9bYuq

humble mirage
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ERROR: Could not install packages due to an OSError: [Errno 30] Read-only file system: '/lib'
``` doesn't look like you've activated the venv...
tranquil shard
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doesn't the (homeassistant) in the prompt suggest that the vnev is active?

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I'm pretty sure it does, after following a tutorial just for managing venvs (not vnevs lol). 🙂
Undid everything and set it up again and this time Terminal hung up while trying to run hass. Restarted mac. Will try again. Sigh! 😄

humble mirage
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a VM is going to be your friend 😉

tranquil shard
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I'm not giving up that easily! 😉
Have I got the basics right? 1) I create a user account; homeassistant. 2) I create a srv/homeassistant folder in the root of my usual user account (ronnieericsson). 3) I set ownership of this folder to the homeassistant user. 4) I start and activate a venv when I'm in the homeassistant folder. 5) I install wheel and HA as user homeassistant in the virtual environment.

humble mirage
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Having it in your own account's home directory may be causing you issues

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The instructions are for /srv/homeassistant after all

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(Linux basics, again, / at the start of a path marks the root folder - the top level)

tranquil shard
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So, is the correct terminology that root is always the top level above user folders? And is the top level of a user folder what's called "home" for that folder?

humble mirage
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cd /usr/ is very different from cd usr/

tranquil shard
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I'm not exactly allowed to create folders above /Users/ronnieericsson. 🤔
Do I need to create a third account with the home folder "" instead of "users/..."?
Lord. I never signed up to be a system administrator.

humble mirage
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Sure you did, when you picked this install method

tranquil shard
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Ouch! 😄

cunning yacht
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Just installed a docker container version on ubuntu, on the start up webpage for home assistant there is not option to restore from a backup. Is there a new way to restore from back up?

humble mirage
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Restore from backup is only an option with the Supervisor, which you get with Home Assistant OS

cunning yacht
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Is there a way to restore my backup from Home Assistant OS to my new Home Assistant in the docker?

humble mirage
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You can extract the HA config folder from the backup, and write it to the location you've mapped for /config in the container

rapid summit
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Hey guys, I am trying to install Home Assistant on a virtual box on a windows machine. I am getting stuck on a screen saying that "Preparing Home Assistant" and on the command line it is saying "Waiting for the supervisor to startup" and below that just the location URL is displayed.

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Can someone please help?

sudden vale
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Hello,

I have decided to switch from openhab to Home Assistant, but I can't seem to be able to install the latest image running on a PI4-B 2G out of the box.

The console CLI comes up, but the WEBUI shows "Preparing Home Assistant" with the following repeating error:

22-03-11 03:41:50 INFO (SyncWorker_3) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-homeassistant with tag 2022.5.5.

22-03-11 03:41:59 ERROR (SyncWorker_3) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-homeassistant:2022.5.5: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-homeassistant:2022.5.5/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-homeassistant:2022.5.5: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-homeassistant:2022.5.5")

22-03-11 03:41:59 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec

What am I missing?

humble mirage
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In the UI click the blue dot and you should get more information

sudden vale
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Yes, hence the 3 repeating message with error 404.

humble mirage
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You're not using a small SD card? It is at least 32 GB?

sudden vale
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this would be the error just before the 404: 22-03-11 02:35:31 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.utils.codenotary] rpc error: code = Unavailable desc = connection error: desc = "transport: authentication handshake failed: x509: certificate has expired or is not yet valid: current time 2022-03-11T07:35:31Z is before 2022-03-31T09:22:44Z"

rapid summit
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I clicked on that and getting this:
22-05-20 20:02:11 ERROR (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.5.5: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2022.5.5&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fqemux86-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Famd64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
22-05-20 20:02:11 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec
22-05-20 20:02:41 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant:2022.5.5
22-05-20 20:02:41 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/qemux86-64-homeassistant with tag 2022.5.5.

humble mirage
sudden vale
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I do , and I have seen the NTP failure at boot., which ntp server/pool is it trying to reach?

humble mirage
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No idea TBH, but I'm sure somebody who uses HAOS will be along at some point

rapid summit
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@humble mirage can you help me out?

humble mirage
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No

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If I thought I could help, I would be. Pinging me to demand my attention isn't going to get you help any faster @rapid summit - and may just get you ignored by me completely

rapid summit
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Sorry bro, I thought you missed it.

sudden vale
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thank you for the lead! i'm digging

wanton plover
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But checked systemctl to ensure those services are running. I'm running Debian 11, so that shouldn't be the issue...

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Nothing else seems to stand out, but maybe those services aren't running like they are supposed to be?

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systemd-resolved.service loaded active running

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🤷‍♂️

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dbus.service and dbus.socket both are loaded active running as well

sudden vale
rapid summit
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Hey, is anyone familiar with this:

22-05-20 23:47:24 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] Starting system autofix at state CoreState.RUNNING
22-05-20 23:47:24 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixups.store_execute_remove] Remove invalid Store: core
22-05-20 23:47:24 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.store.repository] Can't remove built-in repositories!
22-05-20 23:47:24 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.fixup] System autofix complete

slender olive
#

I just did the hassio OS upgrade that dropped this morning, and now the front-end doesn't appear to be coming up. The IP pings, but internal URL give connection refused. External URL unable to connect. ESPHome devices are occasionally restarting, which they do when they can't connect to hassio.

I have console access, but not enough familiarity to do much with the 'ha' interface. This install is on a VirtualBox on Linux and has been stable for months. Previous upgrades went without issues.

crude inlet
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@slender olive ha help and ha network info

vernal lake
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ethernet is attached

slender olive
crude inlet
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You tend to only need the last part of su logs.

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What does it show?

slender olive
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Home Assistant observer
Supervisor: Connected
Supported: Supported
Healthy: Healthy

vernal lake
#

Someone knows what the problem could be?

slender olive
crude inlet
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@slender olive ha core logs?

slender olive
crude inlet
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Heh

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Busy monitoring your connection

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Or something

slender olive
#

yes, I have a spammy automation

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the TPlink (smart plugs) thing would hang, and I'd restart it

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so at least that much is running

crude inlet
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Do you use duck DNS

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How is your remote access configured

slender olive
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I do not use Duck DNS .. I dont' really do remote access .. although I have OpenVPN on my OpenWRT that I can use to get onto my home network if needed.

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I do have the nabu casa (sp?)

echo glade
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Can I not modify my Home zone if I have a configuration.yaml at all?

rose vortex
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When installing from a VM (VirtualBox) does it normally take the Starting Docker Application Container Engine... step a long time to run the first time? I'm coming up on 10 minutes right now

placid sage
rose vortex
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looks very similar, thanks I'll take a look

placid sage
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It's my issue, no resolution yet, I'm stuck at 7.6 for now.

rose vortex
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When I try Slot B on GRUB I just get something about a file system error

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now trying slot a and I'm getting "Waiting for the Home Assistant CLI to be ready..." which it seems to be hanging on

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Slot B error

error: unknown filesystem.

Press any key to continue...

Wonder if I a have borked the image already xD

placid sage
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If you have a backup or Snapshot It's probably time to utilize it.

That filesystem error doesn't seem good. 🥺

rose vortex
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fresh install, never tried it before

placid sage
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I've had pretty good success with vBox build .30 with HAOS 7.6

rose vortex
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I'll try it

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will probably go for a version running on my pi when I finally get it to work

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that seems to have booted now, thanks SXP

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lovely, after booting 7.6 I rebooted the VM now it is stuck on the docker application container engine again

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think I'll sleep on it

torpid whale
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Is this the place to ask about reverse proxy setup?

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Not the act of setting them up, but rather getting it to work with HA

modest lake
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When I updated my Ha test instance, running in proxmox from OS 7.6 > 8.0 it didn't go so well. It started to use a lot of CPU, but never booted, not even the proxmox console worked until I manually killed the server 4-5 times - then it finally started. Yesterday I upgraded it 8.0 > 8.1 and the same thing happened, but it only required 2 kill/restart to work.
Now to the question: Has anyone here successfully upgraded a HAOS 7.6 > 8.1 running in proxmox?

odd imp
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Although 8.1 has been rushed to stable it sounds like it might be better to wait for 8.2….

wide gale
golden remnant
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Hi did someone succeeded to use properly the shell_command system ? I try to use it to send commands at an audio matrix for volume control but whatever I do it's not sending anything and nothing shows up in logs also 😦 how can you debug such things ?

golden remnant
grand pivot
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The docs tell you how to debug:

stdout and stderr output from the command are both captured and will be logged by setting the log level to debug.

glossy ether
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hey how do I make sure that HA is using the correct bluetooth device? when I use bluetoothctl -> scan on it selects the correct one there but im having connection issues with devices in the gui

golden remnant
placid sage
rose vortex
placid sage
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Oh, I'm not sure it is, but I and some others have boot problems with anything higher then build .30.

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It's been mentioned a few time on github

silver crane
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Hey there. On Wednesday we lost power and unfortunately it seems that mmcblk1p1 failed to mount on my HA Blue. I began working to re-flash it and have been running in to some troubles. The mass storage device just doesn’t seem to show up on my Mac or PC. I have followed this wiki https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os#flashing-an-odroid-n2 and double checked with https://magazine.odroid.com/article/os-installation-using-petitboot-and-usb-otg/. Also updated Petitboot to dev.20220317 and spent a good amount of time trying different order-of-operations. Just no luck. Any suggestions? (Besides a ups battery backup)

errant basalt
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Is there a way to see what is preventing me changing settings via the gui? For example I tried adding a ssh key to the ssh addon but after it restarts the new setting are wiped out. It was installed via the gui.

humble mirage
errant basalt
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That's just one example. I remember reading somewhere in the forums where a split yaml config essentially cripples a lot of settings on the gui.

humble mirage
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That has nothing to do with add-ons though

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Whatever you do with HA's config is utterly irrelevant to the configuration of add-ons

errant basalt
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Same thing happens when I try to add automations using the gui.

humble mirage
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The GUI writes to automations.yaml, and requires that you have

automation: !include automations.yaml
``` in `configuration.yaml`
naive meadow
#

After a lot of false starts frying a few SD cards on a raspberry pi I am now finally up and running on a Micro PC running Proxmox 🙏. Thank you @humble mirage and @lime cobalt among others for the help along the way! Can recommend using this guide for anyone else wanting to install HA OS using Proxmox

topaz juniper
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Grrrr i just tried updating to 2022.5.x again and YET again HA Core is unstable. tried a couple of weeks ago also and had the same issues. HA Core webgui stops and cant connect via SSH either.

humble mirage
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What hardware are you running on? Are you using Home Assistant OS, or some other install method?

topaz juniper
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Observer page isnt loading either

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Pi 4 4GB, used the HA image to flash on SD card

humble mirage
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Observer not loading points to a problem bigger than just HA Core

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I'd question the power supply or SD card - those are the most likely causes of problems

topaz juniper
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it's only on 2022.5.x, when i restore to 2022.4.7 there is absolutly no problem

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thats the weird part

humble mirage
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Could be a change that's resulting in a slightly higher power draw

topaz juniper
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i can reach the HA via SSH now, its extremely slow

topaz juniper
#

replaced the power supply for another one, same issue

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observer = online, everything in green
webgui is down again, restarted automatically after a minute or so

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observer is down also now

humble mirage
#

Time to hook up a keyboard and monitor

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Issues with the Core container shouldn't impact any other container

topaz juniper
#

monitor and keyboard connected. is on HA> now. how can i follow logs?

humble mirage
#

core logs

errant basalt
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Is there a directory that you can find a/n addon/s settings?

humble mirage
proven geode
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Continued from #general-archived, I've managed to nuke my HAos rPi4 install during a network swap and I'm trying to restore from backups on the SD card (or if that fails, start from scratch). It looks like it can boot, but no useful services start up, so I can't SSH in, nor do I have a mini HDMI to plug in directly. Tips for digging into the SD card itself and extracting the backups?

frank scarab
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so initially I setup my homeassistant via docker but I didn't mount a local volume for the configuration folder. I'm trying to set it up properly now. I've copied the config files out of the container and dropped them into a local folder. I've started the container with the folder mounted and I've verified that changes to that local directory are visible to the container. I copied the config files that I extracted into the local folder. When I startup the container it looks like a brand new installation. It's asking me to create a new user and when I'm logged back in I don't see any of my configurations. Is there something else I need to backup/extract?

humble mirage
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Did you get all the hidden files and folders too?

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For example, /config/.storage/?

frank scarab
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oh didn't know those were there .. that's probably it @humble mirage

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thanks

topaz juniper
# humble mirage `core logs`

even with screen and keyboard attachted the HA stops working. is it a good idea to try to flash a new sd-card, another Pi 4 and restore a backup?

frank scarab
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@humble mirage that was it .. it worked!

proven geode
proven geode
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Further update: no, this does not seem to be enough. The UI page prompts to restore from backup, but it never actually seems to start any processes for this, just stays on the user onboarding page

storm sluice
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does it work if you go through that and then later on restore the backup?

proven geode
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Nope, looks like that didn't do anything productive, and now prevents Node-red from starting up because it's looking for files I don't have anymore. I should be able to rebuild my install as long as I can get my Z-wave stuff reattached though

pallid bronze
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Has anyone else gotten this error after updating to 8.1? Error returned from Supervisor: System is not ready with state: setup . My HA instance won't boot and I pretty much can't do anything in CLI

limber hedge
#

hi so i have an a macbook pro 2011 model and i want to run homeassitant on it and was wondering if i could wipe macos from it and run only homeassistant os? i know that i can run it on a vm but can i run it without one?

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anyone

topaz juniper
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why not run HA in docker on de MBP ?

humble mirage
humble mirage
pallid bronze
#

I just did a fresh install of HAOS 7.6 on a fresh SD card and upgraded it to 8.1 via the web gui and it also won't boot. this seems to be a very big problem

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Especially since this is happening on a fresh install

scarlet aurora
topaz juniper
scarlet aurora
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what issues?

topaz juniper
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webgui stopped working and responding

scarlet aurora
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I have problem with zwave2mqtt , cannot open the port to connect with usb dongle

topaz juniper
scarlet aurora
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I installed zwave2mqtt with docker yesterday but it cant connect with usb dongle

#

I tried and they helped me with installation but not with the port opening problem

#

I think maybe something with permissions

#

I have manual installation of homeassistant and i am thinking to move to a new installation with docker. Can somebody tell me the advantages and disadvantages?

grand pivot
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Depends on what you mean by 'manual'. If you mean via a Python venv, then a container install takes care of Python updates and requirements for you, and there's no downside.

hazy ocean
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Is there a way to print a list of users from the hass command line tool?

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I'm trying to reset my password, and i have no idea what username I used

grand pivot
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they're all in config/.storage/auth

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grep username .storage/auth

hazy ocean
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Hmm thanks, I can see my name there but when I try to reset it, I'm showing no users, and I don't see any when i provide list to the auth script, I think something is funky with my installation since I'm using TrueNAS

thin monolith
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Does anyone have any hunch on why I can’t seem to migrate my install from an SD card to an usb SSD? It boots but it fails rather often

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Maybe the ssd sometimes requires more power than what the raspberry can provide?

humble mirage
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Quite likely that's the problem, I've seen many reports of issues that are solved once somebody moves the SSD (or USB stick) to a powered hub

scarlet aurora
humble mirage
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Nah, you can install "everything else" using Docker, or not, but once you've learned the joy of Docker it's hard to go back to doing things the hard way

scarlet aurora
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ok thats sounds very good 😃 Thank you

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Should i format the sd card to make a new fresh installation or can i unistall the old homeassistant and install it through docker?

humble mirage
#

You can uninstall the old venv by simply deleting it

scarlet aurora
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and then when i will install homeassistant again via docker will take the old configuration?

humble mirage
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If you point it at the old one, yes

scarlet aurora
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thanks i will follow that

sly schooner
#

Hello, when i run HA on my server with 2 x 1,7 Ghz and 12core/24 threads Cpu , is a high ghz necessary when i run many integrations/plugins ?

humble mirage
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There are no plugins, but I guess you mean add-ons?

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It really depends on what those add-ons are, some require more CPU power than others (for example, Frigate or anything doing video stream processing)

sly schooner
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Okay but did you think 1,7ghz is enough, and i mean when i need more, hass can use more cores ?

humble mirage
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Well, the add-ons are entirely outside of HA itself, so even if HA didn't use more cores those would

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Given that HA (and some add-ons) can run fine on a Pi3b, your system specs sound "ok" zany

sly schooner
#

Okay i have all on my unraid system and can share cores and all that stuff

fickle timber
#

Hello! I upgraded to the latest version of home assistant on my pi3b running haos four days ago or so, and ever since my pi has crashed once a day to the point that I have to restart it via unplugging it.

It looks like the logs reset after a restart. Can someone point me to a resource on how to find the logs from before the restart to see if I can pinpoint the reason it's crashing?

humble mirage
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If the whole Pi crashes it's not the logs for Core you need

fickle timber
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What would you suggest I look at? I don't have the hardware to move my system at the moment, so I'm hoping I can keep it limping along a bit longer...

humble mirage
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Ideally you want to keep a keyboard and monitor connected so you can see something of what's happening when it fails

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Unfortunately I don't know how to troubleshoot HAOS failures

fickle timber
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Lol I guess I can connect peripherals up. Can't stay up late enough to watch it crash until next weekend though 😂 thanks for the input

humble mirage
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Yeah, but if the keyboard and monitor are connected (and working) then when it crashes there should be something on the display to tell you what went wrong

fickle timber
#

So, I've never actually contacted a monitor to my pi after installing ha on it, and it doesn't look right. I think it's trying to display lines of letters, but it's like they're drawn on the monitor incorrectly? All I see are white dots and some green dots near the bottom and then a small flashing line, like a command line waiting for input. At this point, I'm able to pull up the server on other devices.

If this is the wrong channel let me know where to ask about this!

humble mirage
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The display is only active if it was connected when HAOS booted

fickle timber
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It was connected before I plugged the pi back in, and there are things on the display, they're just not drawing right. The display and cable are both confirmed good

humble mirage
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Could be a problem with power on the Pi then

fickle timber
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I can't imagine, as I had to order a different power supply for it specifically due to low voltage issues on the original. The new supply is over rated for pi3b+. Do power supplies go bad?

humble mirage
#

Yes, they can

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Any power handling hardware can fail

fickle timber
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Just seems odd for it to fail so soon, but I guess my pi is constantly on

crude inlet
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No

random sluice
#

I'm getting Failed to start Docker Application Container Engine, any way i can fix that without just reinstalling and the VM and using a backup

burnt vault
#

Hi, I wanted to know if we can create a default admin user and password from the config instead of during initialization on UI onboarding?

humble mirage
#

No

sly schooner
#

Did anyone have recommendations for intel Xeon i5 ? I mean the “number” after the i5

humble mirage
#

Newer is better, otherwise ... really depends a lot on what you plan on running (what add-ons etc)

random sluice
sly schooner
humble mirage
#

Few integrations require any real CPU power. Media streaming also requires very little CPU, only transcoding/processing does

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All of that would be fine on a Pi4, so any i5 from the last ... decade ... will be fine, but newer ones are more power efficient

sly schooner
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Okay thanks, did you recommend a gaming cpu like i7 9700k or server cpu like xeon i5 ? Power consumption is unnecessary

random sluice
#

ok so I found some threads regarding the problem I'm having. I'd need to access the command line though. However CRTL+C wont work, the startup process just keeps running, then throws the error and restarts

humble mirage
random sluice
severe cedar
#

I am having issue installing i2c I cant seem to get past here mount /dev/sda1 /tmp/mnt It says sda1 does not exist

humble mirage
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Did you try the other options the docs list?

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Type the following to enable I2C, you may need to replace sda1 with sdb1 or mmcblk0p1 depending on your platform:

severe cedar
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tries all of them including os devicelist and no luck

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ha os datadisk list

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returned []

humble mirage
#

What are you running HAOS on?

severe cedar
#

VM

humble mirage
#

Ah

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It's quite possible there's no support for it then... what devices are you trying to use?

severe cedar
#

lidar sensor

steady drift
#

I need help 😩

I’ve been stuck on this page for 2 hrs now, and i think I did the process right, does any one have a fix?

#

“Preparing home assistant” page

orchid pebble
steady drift
abstract hearthBOT
#

@steady drift Please don't say I have an error or describe an error. Share the whole actual error message so we can help you.

Command '.error' was invoked by: Tinkerer
orchid pebble
steady drift
#

I got this from the supervisor log

#

22-05-24 07:15:18 ERROR (SyncWorker_1) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2022.05.3&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Faarch64-hassio-supervisor&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")
22-05-24 07:15:18 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.supervisor] Update of Supervisor failed: Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/aarch64-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/create?tag=2022.05.3&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Faarch64-hassio-supervisor&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": net/http: request canceled while waiting for connection (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)")

noble beacon
#

Still problems when restoring from full backup (using HassOS).. what a joke!!!

crude inlet
#

What kind of problems?

narrow vector
#

Hi, i wanted to setup the Samba NAS Add-on. In the documentation it says i need to add the Partitions by "Disklabel". Does someone know how to get the Disklabel of my disk?

limber hedge
#

Ok so I was just able to get a device that can have home assistant running 24/7 but whenever I leave it on for some while it refuses to connect and ii only starts working when I reboot the host from the home assistant cli any reason for this?
I have ha installed using a Vm in a hypervisor with ha os on a mac

limber hedge
#

Anyone?

abstract hearthBOT
#

@limber hedge People (and other sentient or vaguely intelligent beings) aren't waiting here for your questions, ready to leap upon them the moment they appear. Have a little patience. Keep in mind that repeatedly posting to get attention is against the rules (flooding) and can get you muted or banned.

Command '~patience' was invoked by: Tinkerer
humble mirage
#

Somebody who knows HAOS will help you when they're around

orchid pebble
orchid pebble
orchid pebble
warm crypt
#

I am not sure if this is the right channel, but it seems fitting. I have the following problem: There are a few functions that seem to regard the supervisor that are not working. I noticed something was wrong when I got a notification, that my storage is full and when I tried to delete some of the older backups nothing happened to the storage eventhough the backups are not shown anymore. Host restart (host is a raspi) does not work either. Restarted the brutal way and the storage was freed however all the deleted backups are back. When I tried do do a back up it just said unknown erorr: see supervisor but the supervisor showed nothing. Restart didn't work either, and neither do the updates, all with a supervisor error message.

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Okay, restart seems to work now actually. But all the others do not. After one failed backup creation, it said can't create backup in state freeze

steady drift
orchid pebble
delicate bear
#

👋 I'm trying to reflash my 32gb SD Card using the instructions listed here https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/raspberrypi/ . When I use balaenaEtcher with the latest version I get a Source and destination checksums do not match and it fails. I've also tried using Raspberry Pi imager and get a similar message. How can I tell if my SD card is corrupted? Could that be a possibility?

humble mirage
#

Yes, it could well be (and most likely is) that your SD card is ... toast

orchid pebble
#

but yeah its probably toast

humble mirage
orchid pebble
#

of course the best solution is to use a data drive for HA and a SD Card for HA OS boot

humble mirage
#

Well, the best solution if you're going to keep using the Pi tongue_out_closed_eyes

delicate bear
#

@humble mirage thanks for that link. I'll look into a data drive since I most likely need to replace it now

warm crypt
#

Since I can't seem to find anything in logs, what could be the issue? Or how can I try to figure out the issue?

orchid pebble
steady drift
orchid pebble
#

do you have a keyboard and monitor connected to your pi?

steady drift
#

About to connect them

steady drift
orchid pebble
#

ok now what do you see

steady drift
#

Black screen, with home assisant

Welcome to the home assistant command line

orchid pebble
#

type login

steady drift
#

Ok

orchid pebble
#

did you get a ping reply?

steady drift
#

I was waiting, but nothing

orchid pebble
#

what did it give you?

steady drift
#

Nothing, just a blinking bar

#

Hold on

orchid pebble
steady drift
#

Beats me

high token
#

Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers is ~~almost ~~always DNS

orchid pebble
steady drift
#

Ok

high token
#

(I write the same every time 😄 )

orchid pebble
#

I have no idea why ghcr causes issues with dns

steady drift
high token
#

I have no idea why it happens. But almost always when it's that errror or a 404 error when trying to download any image, changing their DNS fixes it

#

but also in most cases changing it through nmcli works

#

arguably there should be a fallback to 9.9.9.9/1.1.1.1 when its repeatably getting that error

steady drift
#

Type in the edit command (the whole thing), came back with an error: unknown connection

#

🤦🏾‍♂️

high token
#

what did con show showed you?

#

was it not that the name of the connection?

steady drift
#

Supervisor eth0

#

the green entry

high token
#

then try editing that connection

crude inlet
#

Did you use quotes?

high token
#

since green is the active one

crude inlet
#

"Supervisor eth0"

#

oh was that not even the one being edited?

high token
#

my example was mentioning the default con

crude inlet
#

just me butting in things

steady drift
#

😩😩😩😩

steady drift
#

Gave me a list

crude inlet
#

that's too much weariness

steady drift
#

Setting ipv4

orchid pebble
#

I just find it really odd ghcr.io always seems to have dns issues

high token
#

pretty sure this was happening even before we changed to ghcr.io

#

could be wrong

humble mirage
#

There's been DNS issues on and off for ... a long long time

#

The new DNS thingy in HAOS was aimed at fixing them ISTR, though ... no such luck

high token
#

In the beginning there was the Bing Bang and DNS issues followed

#

what new DNS thingy?

humble mirage
#

The add-on/plugin/whatever ... core DNS or some such

high token
#

oooh that

#

that's existed for a long time now though

humble mirage
#

And it still hasn't magically solved DNS shrug

high token
#

although big controversy around that

#

posts upon posts

#

github issues on it are fun to read lol

steady drift
#

Thanks, guys @high token @orchid pebble @crude inlet 🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

orchid pebble
#

no problem

#

but if you look up ghcr.io and that dns error, all that comes up are home assistant posts, maybe we gotta start enforcing dns to 1.1.1.1 or 9.9.9.9

#

I know that would bother people but it seems like it would work

warm crypt
orchid pebble
warm crypt
# orchid pebble do you have the ssh addon installed or a keyboard and monitor connected to the p...

I got neither right now, can't do the install rn. keyboard and monitor I can try tomorrow. However after the latest restart I finally got some error logs 22-05-24 21:14:03 ERROR (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3") 22-05-24 21:14:03 INFO (MainThread) [supervisor.resolution.module] Create new issue IssueType.UPDATE_FAILED - ContextType.SUPERVISOR / None 22-05-24 21:14:03 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.supervisor] Update of Supervisor failed: Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/armv7-hassio-supervisor:2022.05.3") 22-05-24 21:14:03 CRITICAL (MainThread) [supervisor.core] Can't update Supervisor! This will break some Add-ons or affect future versions of Home Assistant! as well as this one 22-05-24 21:16:24 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.api] Error on call http://172.30.32.1:8123/api/config: that is at least something new

orchid pebble
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ugh I am gonna bet its dns again

orchid pebble
warm crypt
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does that mean I should read up on what was discussed here today already xD

orchid pebble
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pretty much that link I sent has all the instructions

warm crypt
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alright thanks, what is the cause of the problem? I haven't changed anything lately

steady drift
dense rain
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hi, i cant connect my HA app with my server. It says NSURLErrorDomain 1004

upbeat ferry
dense rain
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im a bit of a rookie. It’s running on Oracle VM VirtualBox

upbeat ferry
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And when you rebooted your laptop, did you shutdown the VM? If not, the behaviour of VirtualBox is likely to pause the VM which not all VMs like. Try rebooting the VM and I bet it comes back.

If you're not running HA on a dedicated host that can stay up all the time, it's not going to go well.

dense rain
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ok. Just a moment

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should i do a headless start?

orchid pebble
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no

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just do a normal boot so we can see output

dense rain
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ok

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Hmm.. same error with normal start

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it shows HA running

orchid pebble
dense rain
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let me check

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yep, i can get it on 8123

orchid pebble
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also if you are using ssl update the cert

somber pond
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What is the default password for homeassistant when using WSL?

orchid pebble
limber hedge
orchid pebble
limber hedge
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Yes

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I have diabled sleep mode

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And when I open the lid back up I am still on the same screen

orchid pebble
limber hedge
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Wifi

crude inlet
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I'm done with vms running on laptops using WiFi. Ridiculous

mossy hornet
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What do I need to do to get HAos to recognize the system audio (speakers / mic via 3.5mm jack)?

audio:
  input: {}
  output:
    auto_null: Dummy Output```
limber hedge
robust crescent
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Has anyone worked out a high avail HA?

limber hedge
raw hedge
robust crescent
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ok

raw hedge
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Home assistant is not really designed for high availability

robust crescent
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I've used rancher before but not longhorn.

raw hedge
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Rancher made longhorn for distributed block storage

robust crescent
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ok

raw hedge
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I have HA inside k3s

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I’m in the middle of adding ssh access to HA to access the files via ssh or sshfs

robust crescent
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I was thinking of dumping my system and moving it to a RPI4b as my pc is overkill for it

raw hedge
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I have a cluster of pi4s

robust crescent
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Same 5 rpi

raw hedge
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Dam… I have been trying to buy more for months

robust crescent
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running in POE mode

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LOL i have more I'm not even using from cana

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2 4gb model

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and one with just the board

raw hedge
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I just need the boards with at least 4GB

robust crescent
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yeah people keep saying that.

raw hedge
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K3s masters take 550 MB of ram and the workers take 50

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By default the master is also a worker thus why it’s 550 :p

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If you are looking to get rid of some spares, let me know

robust crescent
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I could part with them for the right price. not looking to gouge just get the money back.

final cedar
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Has anyone been able to successfully roll back from 2022.6.0.dev20220525? I can access cli but trying ha core update --version 2022.6.0.dev20220524 doesn't work

high token
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@final cedar try with --version=2022.6.0.dev20220524 instead

sleek geyser
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Does anyone know why my observer container would be constantly restarting due to a SIGSEGV? I suspect I am running into OOM issues due to my running it all on a Pi 2 (Still have not managed to acquire a Pi 4 at a sensible price). HA seems to be working, I'm not sure what the observer actually is supposed to do!

lucid pecan
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Hello. Any idea how I could get a shell on the HA OS (ie not inside a docker but the host) to try figuring out what the VM hosting HA OS is using a LOT of CPU ?

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I would just to run 'top' from a shell

high token
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login at the ha cli will drop you in a host shell

sleek geyser
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how... do I restore from a backup?

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I can see the backup in the list... there's just no option to restore... ?

crude relic
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just to confirm, if I want access to GPIO on my Pi, I can't use Hassio, right?

crude relic
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I have a RPi 4 4GB, if that matters

just want to confirm if I have full control of GPIO with HA OS or if I should run HA on a container

crude inlet
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@crude relic the GPIO integration for HA was deprecated/removed

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doesn't matter how you run it, you would need to use the custom integration

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if you want that

warm crypt
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How long should it take to load after typing login, because I think 5 minutes is too long xD

crude inlet
upbeat wharf
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Did it, thanks!

sleek geyser
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Turned out it was the way I'd installed it. Needed the docker setup.

warm crypt
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Okay, despite the error messages still flooding the screen I can at least use the cli now

warm crypt
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got the fix, but I am suspecting that the sd is frozen. How can I validate my backup?

round swan
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Hi all, I'm unable to update due to a MariaDB issue https://github.com/home-assistant/core/issues/69620 I'm thinking of starting with a new database. Am I correct thinking the database only contains data and no configuration, or does it also contain configuration and do I risk to have to setup stuff anew when switching to a new empty database?

high token
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the database contains your HA history (the 10 days by default), any long term statistics you might have (energy dashboard) and could optionally contain other things e.g. is used by NGINX Proxy Manager or some other addon that might be using it for storing data

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but no configuration stuff

round swan
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OK, so it's safe to switch to an empty new database and I will only loose history, not my setup? Cool.

high token
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Yeap

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and assuming you don't use NGINX Proxy manager you also have nothing to worry about there

round swan
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No, I'm running a proxy on my NAS, different device.

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Thanks for the help

terse orchid
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If this is not the right place to post this please let me know. I upgraded to 2022.6b0 today and now my system seems to be a in reboot loop. Any advice on where to start to troubleshoot it?

grand pivot
terse orchid
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Thanks!

mint spoke
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Trying to install HAOS on SSD, using Ubuntu USB boot interface, but the documents aren't making sense to me (please note I am not trained in IT, just a coder entrusted with an IT task).

I have loaded up the Ubuntu USB boot onto the computer in which I want to install HAOS, where do I go from here?

upbeat wharf
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Is it possibile to restore a backup in home assistant docker container?

frigid dragon
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Anyone who can solve the s6-overlay-suexec: fatal: can only run as pid 1 for new addons?

humble mirage
humble mirage
manic bane
humble mirage
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TBH I can't see the attraction of the built in backup service, which it's so much better to integrate it in your existing backup solution

Except of course most people probably don't already do backups of their important data...

upbeat wharf
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I am already using duplicati for my backups and the backup function. Just thought there is an opportunity to import the tar file and not just copying every single file. Thank you

manic bane
warm crypt
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Which steps can I take when I get the error of "error when calling update/install"?

humble mirage
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What are you doing when you get that error?

warm crypt
warm crypt
humble mirage
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And what's in the Supervisor logs?

warm crypt
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No errors reported

humble mirage
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And yet error, See supervisor for logs shrug

warm crypt
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yep

warm crypt
humble mirage
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What errors?

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I mean, it could a dead SD card, it could simply be file system corruption, without knowing the details though we can only guess

manic bane
warm crypt
manic bane
warm crypt
warm crypt
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I also got an ext4-fs error yesterday, but I didn't document it sadly

humble mirage
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Read-only file system
Could be dead SD card, could be file system corruption

warm crypt
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Alright, either means I need to start new

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Do you have a link for me to read up on the USB as storage?

humble mirage
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USB what as storage?

warm crypt
humble mirage
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A USB thumb drive is a shockingly bad choice

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They're what happens when somebody decides that SD cards aren't bad enough

warm crypt
humble mirage
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Not for HAOS, no

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Unless you mean run it on the NAS in which case it depends on your NAS

crude inlet
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@warm crypt try copying 4GB of small files off of any USB thumb drive to any PC and then compare it to copying the same off of an SSD or nvme. You'll see the struggle. USB thumb drives were a nice alternative to optical drives/media back in the day.

warm crypt
unreal egret
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Hi guys, I've been directed here

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I dont know if you have been able to to this but im trying to break my head doing it, I have a VM with home assistant and I want it to have 2 virtual nics, in fact it does, one its in the iot network and the other one I want it to be in the home network, but I dont want the vmnic on the home network to have a gateway, I want its gateway to be the one on the iot network, why? because I only want to see certain devices in the home network as local instead of routing them, such as nest audio devices so I can safely push TTS to them
its a long explanation, sorry
so whenever I enable the 2 nics and even if I manually remove the gateway from the home nic, it always comes back (dhcp)

I cant even set it to manual and its killing me

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Someone in another thread recommended to stop using dhcp, but Its only a problem for HA, Id like to set both ips in both vmnics manually to be honest, that way I can only set the gateway in the interface needed

humble mirage
warm crypt
unreal egret
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Ideally, Id like to set both interfaces manually, but its a bit different than a traditional linux setup and im a bit confused about it

crude inlet
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@unreal egret If HA shows both adapters on the Network page, you might be able to use nmcli to configure them

plucky knoll
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I'm running Home Assistant OS on VMware, and after update to version 8.1 I saw this message:

The configured guest OS (Other (64-bit)) for this virtual machine does not match the guest that is currently running (Linux 5.15.41 Home Assistant OS 8.1 Home Assistant OS 8.1). You should specify the correct guest OS to allow for guest-specific optimizations.

Is this a problem ?

unreal egret
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i guess I need to figure out a way to configure them manual with nmcli

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the other issue is if i open the cli of home assistant, I cant use cli commands, its all ha commands, its frustrating

crude inlet
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@unreal egret that's the main reason it exists. If you want to use nmcli you have to be connected to the host, or use the SSH add-on from the community section of add-ons and turn off protection mode

unreal egret
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but I run the risk of messing somthing up and getting locked out

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dont i?

crude inlet
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all add-ons are containers. The SSH add-on container you are using does not have full access to the host system. None of them do. But some add-ons from the community repo have more access when protection mode is turned off

crude inlet
unreal egret
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i guess anyway i can take a snapshot of it

crude inlet
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I'm not sure what you mean by locked out. If you change the networking you would use those new settings to access HA

unreal egret
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so even tho my vm has 2 interfaces, the container will only see one

crude inlet
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It's a VM. Maybe just start another VM and experiment with that one?

unreal egret
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@crude inlet i want to have 2 network interfaces on my HA, one with gateway which is were the iot network resides and one without gateway so it can reach devices on my home network, such as nest audio and then being able to send tts to it

crude inlet
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right, so using nmcli you would edit your connections

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@bitter locust if you are at the ha> prompt you can enter login to get to the host console

bitter locust
unreal egret
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oh nice

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thanks @crude inlet

bitter locust
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Just can't find it lost

high token
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/mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant/

crude inlet
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@bitter locust stepped away, sorry. yeah what thanasis says

iron adder
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Hi all! Is there a difference in the docker arch setup between HA 4.7 and 5.x ? Somehow I am able to run the 4.7 version but anything above 5 is crashing my entire docker system.

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arch == architecture

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not the operating system arch.

humble mirage
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Nothing that should crash Docker

bitter locust
high token
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this started with updating to beta?

bitter locust
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yes

high token
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maybe move back to stable and see if that stop Core from crashing

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then you know it's really beta

bitter locust
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was working fine as always just updated to 2022.6.0b0

vale sluice
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Hey, i would like to access my home assistant from everywhere, but there are 3 problems:

  1. I have an DS-Lite connection, so no own ipv6 address (only ipv6)
  2. I don't want to use an vpn, that i can also get an https certificate (currently using tailscale, but not happy with it)
  3. I cant do port forwarding

I really hope there is an FREE solucion, so that it works like nebula casa

bitter locust
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how can I downgrade from here

humble mirage
bitter locust