installation-archived

[undone sentinel]

okay 🙂

[raw hedge]

like for example, my homeassistent docker dir has "data docker-compose.yml "

and I use volumes: - ./data:/config

[valid heart]

Any network experts on at the moment?

#installation-archived message

[raw hedge]

@valid heart ok lets get a few things

did you set up TLS? if not you should be using HTTP and not HTTPS

you may have to clear web browser cache / data if it keeps redirecting you

[valid heart]

Not on reflashed install and don't think I did originally. I do use NabuCasa but don't know if that is relevant

[raw hedge]

lets ignore that and use local ip

http://192.168.1.5:8123 or whatever your HA is from a lan scan

if its not showing up after a fresh image, you have some issues

[undone sentinel]

@raw hedge

docker run -d \
  --name Minecraft \
  --restart=unless-stopped \
  --privileged \
  -p 25565:25565
  -e EULA=TRUE \
  -v /volume1/docker/Minecraft:/data \
  --network=host \
  itzg/minecraft-server:stable

this is what i came up with seems okay to me

[abstract hearth]

@undone sentinel To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks. Here's an example

Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

For over 15 lines you must use a code share site such as https://dpaste.org/ (pick YAML for the language), https://www.codepile.net/ (pick YAML for the language), or https://paste.debian.net/ (pick YAML for the language).

Command '~format' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

You almost certainly don't want

  --privileged \

[raw hedge]

@valid heart https://www.iwaxx.com/lanscan/ may be of use to a nice gui lan scanner

[humble mirage]

https://docs.docker.com/engine/reference/run/#runtime-privilege-and-linux-capabilities

[undone sentinel]

okay removed

[raw hedge]

next step would be to change dns servers on the router

like try cloudflare's 1.1.1.1 or google's 8.8.8.8

[valid heart]

Downloading now. StaticIP is 192.168.68.121/24. Can connect to http://192.168.68.121:8123 and get to HA. Chrome says its unsecure

[raw hedge]

can you ignore it and go on in?

advanced

proceed

or... use .... edge

[humble mirage]

Chrome says its unsecure
That suggests you're using https:// not http://

[valid heart]

Yes, can sign in

[raw hedge]

ok so you have access to the HA gui now?

[valid heart]

Yes

[raw hedge]

ok so its working now?

[valid heart]

No. Supervisor can't update and there is a warning under System saying Your installation is unhealthy. Log has a couple of errors and a warning. Warning - 'Updater.fetch_data' blocked from execution, no supervisor internet connection

[raw hedge]

ok so now we can look at the network issue

do you know how to set a static ip / change dns on HA?

[valid heart]

Shall I post log errors? Sorry, there a android/windows version of lanscan

[raw hedge]

lanscan was only so we can get to the HA GUI

[valid heart]

Yes. Under IPv4 its set to static and IP address 192.168.68.121/24

[raw hedge]

clearly you have layer2 connectivity since you can access from your pc

[valid heart]

This is also set as static on Deco Router

[raw hedge]

and the gateway?

[valid heart]

Gateway 192.168.68.1

DNS 194.168.4.100

[raw hedge]

change dns to 1.1.1.1

[valid heart]

Done. Do I need to reboot host?

[raw hedge]

not sure with HA OS, go ahead to be safe

[undone sentinel]

can i add several -e ?

or is there a trick to it to run it in one line

[valid heart]

Ok. DNS set and rebooted & signed in again. Cache cleared as well

Similar warnings in the log

[raw hedge]

log file?

pastbin the warnings

[undone sentinel]

  docker run -d \
  --name Minecraft \
  --restart=unless-stopped \
  -p 25565:25565
  -e EULA=TRUE \
  -e TYPE=PAPER \
  -e SERVER_NAME=Tsuna's Server \
  -v /volume1/docker/Minecraft:/data \
  itzg/minecraft-server:latest

or is this bad form to do so ?

[raw hedge]

@undone sentinel idk, I would add them manualy

  environment:
    - DEBUG=1```

all e flag is for environment variable

you can ignore it, declare environment under the service name and start listing them

generate it without the -e and add manually or try it and see what happens?

I dont really use environment variables in k8s unless its for options in the container, I patch instead with kustomize and a patch file

even then its for placeholders 😛

oh how I have not used the cli in a long time and i just use definition files

[valid heart]

Sorry to be dumb, created pastebin, how do I link to it?

[humble mirage]

Save it, share the link

[raw hedge]

copy the url in the browser after saving

or find the share button

[valid heart]

https://pastebin.com/QhN2hEse

[raw hedge]

is... your date and time correct?

[valid heart]

It looks an hour out of date. I'm in UK. Currently 17:00

[raw hedge]

I feel like your system time is incorrect

do a fresh reinstall

do not restore from backup

do not pass go and see if its fine

[valid heart]

Ok. I never managed to restore a backup as it says no internet connection.

[raw hedge]

without static ip

[valid heart]

This is what I followed last time. https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#flashing-an-odroid-n2
Is that correct steps to follow?

[valid heart]

Ok. And presumably take out of the Deco router so its automatic?

[raw hedge]

yah, go back to all default

https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/odroid

[valid heart]

This is basically a fresh install bar the static IP as I've not been able to do anything else

[raw hedge]

go back to good old dhcp and see if it works there

[valid heart]

Ok. Will follow the steps and revert back once done. Thanks for the help so far

[raw hedge]

and if this fails, try a older image and or the new beta ones

you are having time / ssl related issues

[valid heart]

Is the Blue a N2 or N2+?

[raw hedge]

ODROID-N2+

https://www.home-assistant.io/blue/

[viscid cave]

Hey all you HA smarty 👖! I'm switching from HA OS over to Container. Just makes more sense w/ the direction I'm moving in my homelab. I'm trying to set up Home Assistant to record to a MariaDB db. Having some issues. Here's my current configs. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

[abstract hearth]

@viscid cave posted a code wall, it is moved here --> https://hastebin.com/fohilomuwa

[viscid cave]

HA configuration.yaml file:

recorder:
  purge_keep_days: 30
  auto_purge: true
  db_url: !secret db_url

HA secrets.yaml file:

db_url: "mysql://db_user:db_password@192.168.0.101:3306/ha_db?charset=utf8mb4"

192.168.0.101 is the address of my Raspberry Pi (aka. host that I'm running both the HA Docker container and MariaDB Docker container on)

Currently, in my HA logs, I am seeing: "sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb._exceptions.OperationalError) (2002, "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)")"

I'm guessing this is because I cannot connect to the mariadb container for some reason?

[raw hedge]

Db url is wrong

Well

Use docker dns

[viscid cave]

Sorry...I forgot to use a pastebin for my codeblock. Here's the most up-to-date version: https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/ewukisewov.http

...added a ports: - "3306:3306" option to the mariadb container just because the docs said to.

[viscid cave]

What do you mean by this?

So I shouldn't use the host IP of my Raspberry Pi (I presume my HA container when running in host mode also uses this same IP)

[raw hedge]

Soo your db host name is db

Use the docker network

Then you don’t need to expose it

[viscid cave]

So remove the ports: - "3306:3306" from my db container declaration?

[raw hedge]

First try to access the db using the service name of the database

[viscid cave]

So in secrets.yaml, try changing to:

db_url: "mysql://db_user:db_password@mariadb:3306/ha_db?charset=utf8mb4"

FYI: mariadb is my container_name

[raw hedge]

Use the service name

Which in your case is db

[viscid cave]

Oh...I didn't even realize those were different!! So good to know! I missed this while reading through the Docker docs.

I'll try that.

@raw hedge Is that best-practice when referencing containers from others? Like reference the service name rather than container_name?

For like IP-stuff?

[raw hedge]

Give each stack its own database

Only give network access to the DB to what needs it

Like I would make a stack, make a db network that only ha and the database software are attached to

Don’t open ports to the DB to the rest of the world

[viscid cave]

So, in my current stack, I have mosquitto (MQTT), Zigbee2MQTT, InfluxDB, MariaDB, and HA. In that Docker Compose file (Portainer stack), I have a section specified as below:

networks:
  default:
    name: scoobydoo
    external: true

I don't expose port 3306 on the db (MariaDB) container.

[raw hedge]

Stick to making it work with db as the host name first

[viscid cave]

Full recorder integration is:

recorder:
  purge_keep_days: 30
  auto_purge: true
  db_url: "mysql://db_user:db_password@db:3306/ha_db?charset=utf8mb4"

I'm getting this error in my HA logs: "Unknown MySQL server host 'db'"

I don't think defining db in my HA configuration.yaml file (under the recorder block) is helping

I even tried removing the port of :3306 thinking maybe that was causing an issue, still seeing the same error and it doesn't seem like the MariaDB recorder integration is working.

Do you (or anyone else) know how to make HA Container set in host networking mode work with a MariaDB container (bridged) for the recorder integration?

[raw hedge]

Now that I am not driving

Make a db network

Apply it to ha and your database in docker compose

networks:
- db

End of compose file add same thing again

https://docs.docker.com/compose/networking/

[viscid cave]

I'm following what you're saying, but doesn't setting a default network (at the bottom of my compose file) allow all containers in that compose file to "talk" to one another?

Or am I misunderstanding how default networks work?

I ran docker create network scoobydoo to set up my initial network. Then at the bottom of my compose file, I have:

networks:
  default:
    name: scoobydoo
    external: true

(I guess the lingo Docker uses is "top-level" networks key.)

[novel blaze]

would it be possible to get rid of sqlite and fully use postgres with homeassistant?

[humble mirage]

Yes

[abstract hearth]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/recorder/

Command '~recorder' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[humble mirage]

See the docs ☝️

[novel blaze]

i did check it and setup recorder but sqlite is still used.

  purge_keep_days: 7
  db_url: !secret postgresql_database_url```

[abstract hearth]

If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

• Check the troubleshooting steps
• Check your log file - remembering you may need to set logger to info or debug
• Explain what the problem you're having is - sharing configuration, errors, and logs

Command '~troubleshooting' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[raw hedge]

You need to define the network on both services

[viscid cave]

Ok. I'm trying this approach.

Thanks @raw hedge for sharing!! 😄

I'll report back!

[novel blaze]

oh, i got it wrong. The recorder integration is responsible for storing details in a database, which then are handled by the history integration.

is there a way to keep configuration itself (everything that is touched by lovelace?) inside postgresql database?

[humble mirage]

No

[rapid sand]

Can anyone tell me where the lovelace configuration file is? I trashed my HA OS installation and want to save as much as possible

[humble mirage]

It's in .storage/ in your config folder

[rapid sand]

@humble mirage Thanks

My evening lights just turned on

Seems like everything is working except the frontend

Before I reinstall, is there anything I can do about this https://community.home-assistant.io/t/cant-load-the-frontend-anymore-addons-still-work/420819/2 ?

I have been unsuccessful till now

[humble mirage]

You appear to have a networking issue, hopefully somebody who knows HAOS will be able to help troubleshoot that

[rapid sand]

Hmm I just enabled a lot of ports in my router. No idea how that would break something though

[humble mirage]

"a lot of ports"

[rapid sand]

Ha

I disabled port 8123....

Accidently...

Stupid me

[rapid sand]

Yeah I am currently playing around with Hyperion + diyHue + HA

Hacky stuff

Many ports on the same host

I was hoping that Hyperion could find diyHue on the HA host better like this

[humble mirage]

Port forwarding isn't going to help with anything like that

[rapid sand]

I don't know a lot about networks really

I would rather learn about the Linux kernel that about networks

Same with databases 😄

Databases are the worst

[humble mirage]

Databases are no harder than operating systems

[rapid sand]

Maybe, but 10x more boring

btw while I am here: Is there some way to control HA entities via UDP?

[humble mirage]

No

[rapid sand]

I am asking because MQTT is not really suitable for syncing light sources like with Hyperion

It would be really nice to have to UDP access point for that

[humble mirage]

You'd have to build something that could provide that

[rapid sand]

But I guess since HA talks to its addon containers via MQTT that is kind of pointless?

[humble mirage]

What on earth makes you think HA uses MQTT for that?

[rapid sand]

Haha

I just had the notion

Guess it is only for zigbee2mqtt then

Which is a problem

[humble mirage]

Or anything else that uses MQTT

[rapid sand]

Zigbee devices can't be controlled fast enough with zigbee2mqtt

So what does HA use to talk to its addons?

[humble mirage]

Well, add-ons are just software running in Docker, so whatever

[rapid sand]

I guess simple HTTP requests

[humble mirage]

If the software uses HTTP, sure

Some things do, some use MQTT, some use a custom TCP protocol

[rapid sand]

Hmm

So controlling all kinds of lights sources via UDP will be complex

[humble mirage]

Well, no

The whole point of HA is that HA handles that

You talk to HA, HA talks to everything else

[rapid sand]

Plus I would have to write a Zigbee interface that doesn't need MQTT

[humble mirage]

What? Why?

[rapid sand]

Yeah but that is too slow... I guess it doesn't really makes sense for light syncing

[humble mirage]

You do realise that ZHA exists?

[rapid sand]

ZHA?

No

[humble mirage]

Yes, the built in #zigbee-archived integration

[rapid sand]

Ah interesting

That would probably perform better

So I would just have to find a way to expose the light group to Hyperion via UDP

The HA API uses TCP only I guess?

[humble mirage]

Yes

[rapid sand]

That is a shame

UDP for lights would makes sense in that case

For everything else not obviously

[humble mirage]

TCP is fine for that, if you don't set up a new session every time you send a command

Open a session, keep it alive

[rapid sand]

Hyperion uses UDP for controlling Yeelights for example

I think there is a reason they do

[humble mirage]

It's fine if you don't care if some messages are lost

[rapid sand]

The overhead is much lower

No for syncing I don't care

You send like 10 messages per second

Who cares if one gets lost

It must be snappy

[humble mirage]

HA also really isn't intended for that kind of use, so that could prove ... interesting

[rapid sand]

Yeah I know. That is what I am saying. I was really disappointed that it didn't work with HA.

Another issue is that some Zigbee manufactures like Ledvance only allow one pairing connection. So I couldn't pair it with HA and deconz

[humble mirage]

Well, more that HA isn't intended for near real time lighting control like that... you may find that there's going to be issues trying to get it to do that (beyond the API question)

[rapid sand]

Probably. I guess will just use the WLAN solutions of Hyperion and just not bother anymore. It works really well with Yeelights and MCP8266s

I don't have to have Zigbee for everything

But in theory it could be faster

[rapid sand]

But what would be the issue? I am curious

[humble mirage]

Performance

What happens if you try to race a Citroen 2CV in Formula F1?

[rapid sand]

You mean because there is too much concurrency going on in HA?

Too many containers doing many things

[humble mirage]

Well, I've no idea what's going to happen if you try to send tens of light commands a second

Maybe it'll be fine, maybe it'll grind your Pi to a halt

[rapid sand]

I don't think so

I am using it atm

[humble mirage]

And... you're not getting HA to do that

[rapid sand]

Hyperion talk to a fake diyHue bridge which is talking to HA's Zigbee devices via MQTT

All run on the same Pi4

It works, but it is laggy

[humble mirage]

Somebody once wrote a little automation to randomly flip one of ten input booleans, which would then trigger the flipping of another one. It didn't take long for that to grind to a halt

[rapid sand]

That is why you use UDP

[humble mirage]

UDP ain't magic

[rapid sand]

If the Pi is busy, it will not process the requests I guess

TCP will queue up and resend everything

Sure it isn't, but maybe at some point someone will find a solution. Maybe it won't work on the Pi4, but the Pi5 maybe

Whatever I will enjoy my laggy ambilight now haha

Thanks for the help earlier!

[raw hedge]

Am I the only one with some fast pi4s? With all of the things I am running non it?

[high token]

don't you have a cluster?

you don't count

[raw hedge]

I’m starting to think it’s because people keep using SD cards instead of external drives

[humble mirage]

SD cards are convenient, and many people forget that they're also usually not designed for a heavy write life

[raw hedge]

And they are slow

[dawn flame]

Nothing worse than someone trying to use HA for something is was never intended for and then complaining....

[hearty dew]

Hey guys. I have a raspberry PI, but no access to a microsd card reader (or adapter) is there a quick and easy install route?

[dawn flame]

Nope.... 🙂

[hearty dew]

poop

[raw hedge]

Thumb drive usb boot?

[hearty dew]

Oh I could do that, is that a possibility?

[raw hedge]

I boot from my external drives on my pi4, not sure if it’s on by default

Well pi4s

[hearty dew]

Is there a way to boot from the USb then xfer from the USb to the SD card?

[raw hedge]

Backups?

[hearty dew]

No. i mean so i dont have a USB drive hanging off of my pi 😛

[calm shoal]

Hello, I am not sure if I am in the right room or not, but I am new to HA, and I need some help setting up a device on my desktop.

[crude inlet]

@calm shoal a device?

[calm shoal]

Yes, so I have a few relay switches, that I have migrated over from Tuya, and the only button I have to make it work is Activate.

I would like to change it to an actual button that I can toggle and see the button show on/off

[dawn flame]

automations or possibly frontend?

[wise robin]

I'm installing haos as a VM in proxmox, and I've finally gotten to being able to navigate to it locally in a browser but it seems to have just... stopped? I hit the icon for the log and it hasn't spit out any errors, it just sorta stopped

proxmox tells me it's still using a significant amount of CPU and memory, but the log has completely stopped

it got as far as:
[supervisor.host.manager] Host information reload completed

[manic bane]

Can you enter anything on the terminal for HAOS when viewing through proxmox?

[wise robin]

I can

[viscid cave]

Trying to set up & configure HA Container w/ MariaDB database (for recorder integration). I'm having some issues. Could be my approach? Here's my current docker-compose file:
https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/roroyapawa.http

[wise robin]

it looks like it might potentially be the DNS issue, but the ipv4 address has the correct DNS server as provided by my router. Docker doesn't, but I don't see how to change that

[viscid cave]

My hang-up is currently trying to set my homeassistant container as host network mode (so that HA can auto-discover network devices, etc.), while leaving my db service / mariadb container accessible/networked only to the homeassistant container.

Earlier today, @raw hedge suggested I define top-level networks (at the bottom of my compose file) and then reference those networks at a service level (https://docs.docker.com/compose/compose-file/compose-file-v2/#networks).

Problem is when I try starting this stack in Portainer, the Home Assistant container never starts and I get some errors.

Could it be because one cannot set network_mode: host on a container and then also specify additional networks under the service-level network key? i.e...

services:
  some-service:
    networks:
     - some-network
     - other-network

[raw hedge]

That config

[manic bane]

You can try a restart to see if that works

[viscid cave]

If anyone has any examples or would be willing to share their stack/compose file for running HA as a Docker container in host networking mode, but also still be able to reference my db container's hostname in HA's recorder integration, that'd be awesome and super helpful!

[wise robin]

I've restarted a few times now

[raw hedge]

Uploading an example

[viscid cave]

Thanks so much @raw hedge . I tried reviewing your earlier comments and reading through some of the Docker's docs and thought I have it set up correctly, but I'm sure I'm missing or misunderstanding something.

[raw hedge]

https://imgur.com/a/3fc2Hgf

My old retired swag config

[viscid cave]

Only thing is that you don't have any network_mode: host entries.

I think my config follows yours, as you have yours formatted.

[raw hedge]

It should still work, or used to

[viscid cave]

What I'm trying to do is also place my homeassistant container in network host mode.

[viscid cave]

Hmm. Super odd.

[robust shuttle]

does anyone know how to get the amplifi alien install on the HA

[raw hedge]

Unless it was docker swarm and overlays

[viscid cave]

I'm only using Docker standalone w/ Portainer

[raw hedge]

Let me check on it

[viscid cave]

Thanks @raw hedge . You're a rockstar!!

[raw hedge]

I don’t have this issue with k8s 😮

:p

Yah… I think it might be host mode and overlay networks

Yep

Damm.. more reminders of why moving to k3s Kubernetes was worth it

You have to expose the port and use the ip :/

I have an idea

May or may not be able to use a bridge network on a pod that is using a macvlan network @viscid cave

Probably easer for now to be lazy

[viscid cave]

I’ll have to try this tomorrow when my brain’s a little fresher. Right now that sounds kind of confusing. 😅

[raw hedge]

Kinda is for most

[viscid cave]

If you have any other epiphanies or it wouldn’t be too much to ask to draft up an example, I’d sincerely appreciate it!

[raw hedge]

I did this on a docker swarm with a pool for each node before realizing docker swarm sucks :p

[viscid cave]

@raw hedge Just found this: https://stackoverflow.com/questions/60998569/docker-compose-use-both-host-and-bridge-network

I’ll have to read through it tomorrow.

Sorry…meant this one: https://devops.stackexchange.com/questions/1410/connect-docker-container-to-both-host-and-internal-bridge-network

[valid heart]

@raw hedge I'm back trying to get Blue up and running again if you or anyone else able to help.
I am trying to follow this method https://www.home-assistant.io/common-tasks/os/#flashing-an-odroid-n2

I've set bootmode to SPI and when starting, I see PeitiBoot menu as per Enabling USB drive mode section in guide
However, when I exit, there is a message
Welcome to PetitbootFailed to lauch petitboot, dropping to a sheet.
followed by
sh:can't access tty; job control turned off (which is referenced in guide as ok to ignore.)

This happened last time but I was able to proceed so ignored, but is there an issue here? Also the # prompt indents across the screen after each command is entered. The commands all seem to work but seems odd its moving. After the two messages above followed by ls dev/mmc* the # prompt is now half way across the screen

Is this an issue, or should I just proceed with install (thats what I did before and where I was at yesterday)

[crude inlet]

@valid heart did you already go for it?

[valid heart]

No not yet. Was just looking on Odroid forum about updating PetitBoot and wondering if I should do that first

What do you think?

[raw hedge]

no idea, I just stick to pi4s or intel

[viscid cave]

Good morning! Thanks again for the help last evening! I wanted to circle back around and try understanding what you meant by maybe trying a macvlan w/ bridge network.

[raw hedge]

yahh... ignore that for now as its complex

[viscid cave]

It is?

[raw hedge]

use the server ip and expose ports for now

try a test deployment later

[viscid cave]

Were you essentially suggesting to try creating a bridge network and assign that at the service-level on the homeassistant & db containers and then assign a macvlan as well to that container?

[raw hedge]

I think docker will let you attach a bridge network to a container that is attached to a macvlan network

or that might be overlay2 network

[viscid cave]

I read last evening that expose: only listens to the port at runtime and does not actually publish the port.

[loud hedge]

im trying to pair aqara roller shade driver, i have conbee usb stick and i run deconz, i cannot see it there. the device is in pairing mode

[raw hedge]

expose / pubish

[loud hedge]

tired to install zigbee2mqtt but im getting 502 : bad gateway when i try to start the web ui of it :c

[raw hedge]

sorry, my mind is thinking in k8s

[viscid cave]

Ah ok.

[viscid cave]

Here's where support was added for the Aqara roller shade driver. Maybe there's some help/ideas in the ticket: https://github.com/dresden-elektronik/deconz-rest-plugin/issues/5330

@raw hedge Sounds like I maybe have only two options then...

1. sadly say goodbye to supporting HA discovery and manually configure integrations moving forward. This already works then by my initial setup by using bridge networks and publishing port 8123 on the homeassistant container.
2. Set every container on my host to host networking mode.

Thing that sucks w/ option 2 is it seems less-secure, and even more so, I don't want to pollute my host w/ all of the published ports.

[loud hedge]

also, why im getting 502: when trying to start zigbee2mqtt ?

[viscid cave]

Have you successfully started it before? Are you running this as a Docker container? Can you provide any logs?

[humble mirage]

#zigbee-archived can help with that

[valid heart]

Any Odroid experts out there? Looking at PetitBoot upgrade, looks like I need to use sd card but don't have reader - I was using micro-USB port to reflash HA. Not sure I can use that method on the Odroid itself? I have sd card but not reader, or have usb drives I could use.

Unless someone recommends leaving PetitBoot with error as is, I'm thinking I need to update. Do I need to buy a SD adapter or can one of the above be used?

[loud hedge]

bare in mind im a noob, never started it before, not a docker, it shows head to the configuration site of zigbee2mqtt

[humble mirage]

Head over to #zigbee-archived

[loud hedge]

oki

[raw hedge]

pollute? lol you have no idea... just being on discord, browsing the web opens many ports

[royal prism]

Hi, I had a RFXcom 433 E and recently replaced it by a new 433 XL (that allow support for new devices not added to 433 E sadly).
My previous 433 E was declared with "device": "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-RFXCOM_RFXtrx433_SERIAL-if00-port0" (as seen in the "download the logs" from the integration menu...
How can I change the device to use to the new one "/dev/serial/by-id/usb-RFXCOM_RFXtrx433XL_NEWSERIAL-if00-port0" ?
Sadly, adding the new device conf to the yaml configuration file and restarting doesn't change my actual configuration used by homeassistant.... 😢

[crude inlet]

@valid heart I think leave it as is.

[valid heart]

Reading around, I've seen comments that HA and Petitboot don't get on, but it isn't relevant for running HA on the N2+ anyway so looks like it doesn't matter (seems strange that is seems to work in all the instructions I've followed though). I've also asked for help on Odroid forum, as I've done the reflash succesfully (I think) in the past but it didn't fix the original supervisor internet issue I was having and won't let me install a backup.

Happy to leave it and reflash, but feels like deja vu from first time around and don't know if this is relevant. The HA issue was diagnosed as an network issue from the help yesterday and there was a discrepancy with system date/time being wrong on N2+ (can post the pastebin again if it helps).

[valid heart]

Ok. Odroid forum confirmed just to ignore. It just drops to the shell because of a bug in Petitboot when it meets an OS installed in a storage. So I'll go ahead with the re-flash with my fingers crossed, but will come back for help before I do anything is supervisor issue remains

[viscid cave]

Good point. I guess if I'm running this box on my local network, it's secure-enough since I'm not opening every port on my router.

@raw hedge So out of those two options, which is the better move in your opinion? Option #1 or option #2?

[raw hedge]

none of those?

[viscid cave]

Haha well then what do I do?

[raw hedge]

what is stopping you from using localhost or the ip with ha in host mode and open the database port?

[humble mirage]

Use host mode networking for HA and you'll save yourself a lot of future pain

[viscid cave]

I thought I tried that this last evening when we were chatting.

[humble mirage]

If you do anything else then you're running in an unsupported configuration, and many integrations will fail to work as expected

[viscid cave]

This would be ideal! Just have been struggling to then properly connect to other containers such as mariadb for recorder integration.

[raw hedge]

try again

I was driving and was not really reading it

[viscid cave]

Have you ever properly gotten a homeassistant container in host networking mode to properly "talk" to other containers...i.e. a db container for like the recorder integration or something?

[humble mirage]

My database lives on a remote host

[viscid cave]

Issue I was trying to debug w/ @raw hedge was that those containers like mariadb, influxdb, etc. are all in a bridge network.

I'll try what maw suggested again. Maybe I missed something last evening. So, my approach is configure homeassistant container to use host networking mode, then set my db container to use a bridged network (along with my other containers). Then in my db container, publish port 3306 for default MariaDB port. Then in my HA configuration.yaml file, set:

recorder:
  purge_keep_days: 7  #or 30
  auto_purge: true
  db_url: "mysql://db_user:db_password@hostname_of_container/db_name?charset=utf8mb4"

[humble mirage]

Any reason to not publish (expose) the required ports to the host?

[viscid cave]

Does this sound like the right approach?

[viscid cave]

Not necessarily...just have another MariaDB instance (container) running as well on the same host w/ it's port exposed as 3306

[humble mirage]

Pretty sure you'll have to either:

1. Connect HA to both host and bridge
2. Expose ports to the host

You can expose a different port...

[viscid cave]

Tried option #1 last night and it's not possible. Confirmed w/ @raw hedge . Saw on StackOverflow that others were having issues with this.

Wish Docker team supported the ability to add a container to both host & bridge networking.

I think I'm going to have to go with option #2.

I'll give it a shot.

If I'm exposing / publishing ports from some of my containers to the host, then do I need to still set up service-level bridge networks between containers?

For example... I have a service-level bridge network created for my mosquitto MQTT container and zigbee2mqtt container.

Wait...figured out the answer. Because I'm using Docker Compose, a default bridge network is created between containers.

So I don't need the additional service-level networks, unless I want to isolate certain containers from others—but doesn't really matter since I'm exposing (publishing) ports on them.

@humble mirage So now that I'm going the HA host route, when I am trying to reference the other containers/services (at their exposed ports), rather than using the container name (aka. hostname, which seems limited to the bridge network), should I rather use localhost now?

[humble mirage]

Probably the IP of the host rather than localhost

[viscid cave]

So for example, rather than mysql://user:pass@mariadb... use mysql://user:pass@localhost...

[viscid cave]

Although, won't this require me to open that port in my firewall on the host?

I was trying to prevent opening ports like that.

Dang it! "sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb._exceptions.OperationalError) (2002, "Can't connect to MySQL server on '192.168.10.125' (115)")"

I also tried localhost and get this message: "sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb._exceptions.OperationalError) (2002, "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)")"

[humble mirage]

Yeah, localhost is magic

Try 127.0.0.1 instead, that's not magic

[viscid cave]

"sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb._exceptions.OperationalError) (2002, "Can't connect to MySQL server on '127.0.0.1' (115)")"

[humble mirage]

Sounds like you've got some networking issues to chase

Possibly caused by your firewall rules

[viscid cave]

I disabled my ufw firewall completely.

I'll send my config...one sec.

[abstract hearth]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://www.codepile.net/ (select YAML as the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

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Command '~share' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[viscid cave]

https://dpaste.org/Ay5SC

[humble mirage]

Have you tried connecting to the MQTT broker with MQTT Explorer on Windows?

[raw hedge]

Oh firewall

No wonder

Docker should punch through but….

Man, I’m at the point where I think k8s is easer than docker

[raw hedge]

Disable your firewall till you have it workinf, then you can open it and open ports as needed

At least you will know at that point that it’s not docker / ha etc and only your firewall

[viscid cave]

This seems like so complex/complicated for a simple setup though...unless it's really not.

[raw hedge]

Simplicity through complexity

In your case tho, firewall

[viscid cave]

Haha well, I'm making progress. With firewall completely disabled and with a comment from @humble mirage re: changing references to use 127.0.0.1 instead of localhost we're getting places.

I at least have my HA container now talking to my db container.

Running a simple curl -v command to the db service while bashed into my homeassistant container (via docker exec -it ...) is at least returning some stuff.

So I think the issue is either w/ my firewall or maybe even my db instance. I may have to "blow away" my db instance and recreate.

[raw hedge]

I didn’t realize /etc/hosts is magic

[viscid cave]

🙄😂

Although when I tried using localhost, I get this message: "sqlalchemy.exc.OperationalError: (MySQLdb._exceptions.OperationalError) (2002, "Can't connect to local MySQL server through socket '/run/mysqld/mysqld.sock' (2)")"

So looks like not specifying an IP address cause MariaDB to try running through sockets instead.

[raw hedge]

Yah, that’s docker being a pita and yah that’s sockets all right

[viscid cave]

Ugh...Docker

[raw hedge]

In this case it’s MySQL

Lol

[viscid cave]

Maybe I'll try this: https://cloudkul.com/knowledgebase/cant-connect-local-mysql-server-socket-varrunmysqldmysqld-sock-2-error-docker/

[raw hedge]

Use 127.0.0.1

[wise robin]

super extra doubtful there's anything I can do about this, but I can't get haos to start. at all. I've flashed the ISO for a generic x84-64 platform onto this drive with balena etcher, I set it as the boot drive, and it just... sits there. a blinking underscore and nothing else. no error, no response, I can't type anything.

[crude inlet]

@wise robin Is UEFI enabled in the BIOS of this machine?

[naive meadow]

So @humble mirage I'm not sure I completely understand what these components are or how I integrate them with each other. Did you simply freestyle it or did you follow a guide somewhere? I'm a little out of my comfort zone here 😅

[naive meadow]

Why does docker swarm suck?

[humble mirage]

I've been freestyling unix type operating systems for decades

Key thing is to realise that remote access is a thing made up of separate steps

Start with DuckDNS - which gives you a hostname that resolves to your WAN IP. Once you've got that working, move on to SWAG.

[naive meadow]

well i have duckdns working

[humble mirage]

The people who created those Docker images have their own Discord (linked from https://www.linuxserver.io/support) where you can get help with those

[naive meadow]

that is I can connect to home assistant via my duckdns subdomain - but only using http

[humble mirage]

Right, so next step is SSL

You have various options, but SWAG is one of the better options

[naive meadow]

ah ok

so that is what swag basically gives me

[humble mirage]

Did you read the intro for those images?

[naive meadow]

yes

[humble mirage]

It explains what they are, and what they give you

[naive meadow]

maybe i should read them again 😅

[humble mirage]

SWAG gives you:

• A (reverse) proxy server to handle incoming traffic
• SSL certificates

[raw hedge]

Issues, limitations, failed projects from them. They bought a company to offer persistent replicated storage for docker swarm then gave up and did nothing with it. You can’t connect devices to docker swarm containers without doing docker in docker…. Etc

[naive meadow]

Thx!

[raw hedge]

Only thing left from docker is hub, dev, and compose. They failed the cluster area but are fantastic for single server / self hosted

[naive meadow]

Makes sense 🙂

[raw hedge]

Everyone uses them to build their images for containers, so docker is not going away any time soon

[sullen basin]

i cant help it anymore , i need to ask 😛 Trying to get HassIO to run on a SSD M2 drive in a Argon Case. Bootloader is okay seeing as it does try booting from usb but keeps saying GPT : no bootable partition . Tried flashing it with PI imager and also Etcher, but no luck

[glass ruin]

Hey guys

Sooo...

here's where I'm stuck

installed HA UEFI to a "overkill" M.2 via balenaEtcher

then booted and went through its setup, system reset

now it sits at a screen that says autoboot

boot0 it will not continue on.. system freezes / kernel panic and then reboots

[opal bolt]

Quick question - how do I reset the passowrd for HA on the Raspberry Pi?

[humble mirage]

https://www.home-assistant.io/docs/locked_out/

[royal prism]

Found my answer in a forum post on zigbee:
To change a device path of an existing configuration, simply edit the file /config/.storage/core.config_entries
Save and reboot!

[placid sage]

Does anyone know how to update a docker compose installation in portainer?

I want to update my home assistant version

nvm got it

[midnight elk]

I am installing HA on a RPI 3 and now after waiting around an hour i still am stuck on this screen

https://imgur.com/a/DSS3U65

any idea's what this could be?

i flashed my RPI 3 16gb sd card with the rpi imager with the available HA image on there. i have a small router connected to my laptop and RPI without ethernet connection.

[humble mirage]

Click the blue dot

[midnight elk]

https://imgur.com/a/VeWWvJU

what i understand from that is that it needs connection to the internet?

[humble mirage]

Well, yes

Without that it can't download the required Docker images

(and then the required Python libraries)

Once the install is done you can cut it off from the Internet, though I believe the Supervisor may sulk a bit

[midnight elk]

alright thank you 🙂 The youtube guide i was following said i didn't need ethernet connection that is why i didn't get that sorted

[high token]

the biggest issue is keeping up with time in HAOS as far as I've seen

[humble mirage]

Well, it doesn't need to be wired networking, but ... really you'd be daft to use WiFi

Also, YouTube guides are often crap

[midnight elk]

that is why i searched for this server to get some hands on experience advice 🙂

[manic bane]

@midnight elk are you planning on using wifi? Or are you trying to go no internet with the pi

[midnight elk]

i will be using wifi when the setup is complete since i will need to use MQTT for sending data from energy sensors ( circutor cvm-1d and powerlogic pm5300)

[manic bane]

Why do you need wifi for Mqtt specifically

[midnight elk]

i have now given it network access now it gives this error

https://imgur.com/a/3GalW70

[humble mirage]

Images of text... how fun

Maybe reboot?

[abstract hearth]

@midnight elk Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

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[manic bane]

(Applies to these errors if possible)

[midnight elk]

https://dpaste.org/EBafD

i am rebooting now as we speak

[manic bane]

Dns error it looks like. See after a reboot

[midnight elk]

atm i am not able to get in the .local anymore after reboot gives me a refused to connect now

[humble mirage]

Use the IP

[midnight elk]

i don't know the ip of the PI itself i tried googling for a default ip and that one doesn't work either

sorry that i am quite slow on getting this work

[humble mirage]

Well, it's assigned by your DHCP server, most likely the router

You can check the router's DHCP client list to see if a Pi shows up, or use tools like nmap or fing to find it

[manic bane]

There’s no default IP for it lol

[midnight elk]

after rebooting once again i can get into it with the .local again. but the nmap program does list 1 host but it says the host is down and it doesn't display a specific ip

[worn jetty]

hey, does anyone know how to try and recover a virtualbox installation gone wrong? I'm panicking as i think ive lost all my setup

[humble mirage]

Do you not have backups?

[worn jetty]

im not sure, i dont think so

[humble mirage]

[manic bane]

You can or can’t use the .local?
also what nmap command did you run?
You might also be able to view it on your router

[manic bane]

You only make that mistake once (hopefully)

[worn jetty]

i thought i had, but now cant find anything

[humble mirage]

What's the problem?

[worn jetty]

virtualbox went wrong and i wouldnt detect my bridged network adaptor. In trying to fix this I think i might have lost my HA

[manic bane]

So you only lost the network adaptor? Or does HA not boot)

*?

Also are you running HAOS then

[humble mirage]

If it's just the network you can recover this

[manic bane]

^

Network isn’t going to touch any of your stuff in the vm

[worn jetty]

Ive reinstalled virtuabox and im not sure whats left of HA. Yes it was HAOS

ended up with it just booting to shell

[manic bane]

As in the HA shell?

[worn jetty]

removed that, just made it worse and worse

[manic bane]

What did you remove

What exactly

[worn jetty]

the VM

[humble mirage]

Well, if you removed the VM, you're fucked

[manic bane]

So you broke it yourself from a perfectly recoverable problem

[worn jetty]

I can see ive got snapshots

yeah though as much

[humble mirage]

Can I recommend that the next time you've got problems, you don't take the nuclear option?

[worn jetty]

been here trying to fix it for about three hours

should of took at break

[manic bane]

Wait when you deleted the vm, did you delete the files (and if so check recycle bin asap) or just remove it from virtual box

[worn jetty]

no i didnt remove the files, I got a second VM booting up from the original files but I'm not able to connect to it still, so I'm not sure If it contains my configuration or just a virgin HA installation

[manic bane]

If it boots does it go to the HA command line

Like the “available at homeassistant.local” one

[worn jetty]

yeah its booting up to that but I can access it

*cant

[humble mirage]

You can connect using the console

Ignore the network problem for now - log in at the console

[manic bane]

Also to confirm, you have a network adaptor added correct

[worn jetty]

at the moment the only way i could get it to boot was to chose NAT in virtualbox

[manic bane]

Well what if you did network info on that command line? See what IP it gives. Otherwise follow tink’s idea

[worn jetty]

not sure how to do that

[manic bane]

Type ‘network info’

Onto the console

[worn jetty]

ok just trying that now

[manic bane]

Did you do it

[worn jetty]

the command works but not having any luck trying to connect

[humble mirage]

What IP did it show?

[manic bane]

^

[humble mirage]

One for your LAN, or something else?

Because, if you're using NAT, you can't reach it from any other computer

[worn jetty]

it got the docker ip and the othger ip which i assume is the ip for HA?

[manic bane]

What are the IPs

You can share them here

[humble mirage]

Re-enabling bridged mode networking is the way to go

[worn jetty]

but its not in the range of my network

[manic bane]

Then that’s an issue

[worn jetty]

maybe because its on NAT

[manic bane]

Follow what tink said

[worn jetty]

i'll try that again but there seems to be a problem with it

[humble mirage]

Make sure you pick the interface that's connected to your network

I've seen a fair few people screw that up

There's also often issues with WiFi, if your Windows PC is using WiFi

[worn jetty]

it is using wifi yeah, it been fine for months but i had some updates recently think its screwed it up

[manic bane]

Can you use Ethernet in any other way?

[worn jetty]

i can run a cable

[manic bane]

Server stuff is just a lot better being cabled tbh

[worn jetty]

still getting this - Nonexistent host networking interface, name 'ASUS PCE-N53 300Mbps 11n dual band Wireless PCI-E card' (VERR_INTERNAL_ERROR).

[humble mirage]

Well, that's a VBox issue, telling you that it can't find the interface

Reboot?

[worn jetty]

yeah i did that, reinstalled wifi card, ended up reinstalling virtualbox, finally removed the VM , which i really regret now!

ok just rebooted again, ran a cable selected the ethernet instead. just waiting for it to boot again

Thanks so much, its still there.. Thank god for that

now to run a backup immediately

[humble mirage]

And ensure that it's not left on that VM, so that it's actually a backup

[worn jetty]

yeah cheers, think thats where I went wrong actually

[wise robin]

sorry for the late response, but it uhh.... might not have UEFI? I saw no option from it in the BIOS and this machine is an OEM desktop from 2008

I was able to get homeassistant running after installing proxmox a few days ago, but it was struggling to handle a VM (and also, despite Virtualization being enabled in bios, proxmox couldn't actually tell and fought me on the VM)

the bios itself is fully accessible, and boot diagnostics screen can identify all the hardware without issue

[wise robin]

to specify, the machine was originally an HP KJ385AA-ABA a6433w, but some of the internal hardware has been changed

[crude inlet]

Installing proxmox on this same machine?

[wise robin]

that's what I had initially tried. proxmox with Hassos as a VM, but it yelled at me for virtualization stuff. it worked, but very poorly because hardware virtualization had to be disabled

[storm sluice]

use one of the other instalaltion methods then? or different hardware

[silk stump]

Hello,
I want to change from my ethernet connection to a wifi connection for HA, as I am having some problems with the powerline ethernet adapter. I enabled WiFi on the RPi3B+, but HomeAssistant has no connection to the internet. AS I have HA running in docker I assume it's a problem of the internet not being properly bridged to the docker containers. Anyone has an idea how to solve this?

[humble mirage]

The Docker container should be running in host mode

If it is, then it's going to use the working network connection

[silk stump]

Ok, will take a look at it.

Thanks for the suggestion.

[humble mirage]

The other thing to do is to check https://my.home-assistant.io/redirect/network/ and see that HA is set to Auto configure

[silk stump]

It says my HA instance is not supporting redirects.

[humble mirage]

Ah well, you can navigate to the Network view manually

https://my.home-assistant.io/faq/ is worth setting up

[silk stump]

I tried restarting the homeassistant container with --net=host, but unfortunately that doesn't seem to work. I struggle to wrap my head around the docker install (I installed it a while ago and my knowledge is quite limited). So I don't understand if I have to start other containers as well with --net=hosted or how the other containers are started (by the homeassistant container?)

[humble mirage]

What does your docker command line look like for HA?

IMO you're a lot better off using Compose files, though if you're not planning on learning Docker you may want to switch to using HAOS

[silk stump]

Would love to learn docker better but hard to understand it with just following the HA install, but yeah that's my bad.

[humble mirage]

What does your docker command line look like for HA?

[silk stump]

What do you mean by that?

[humble mirage]

The docker command line, that starts the container

docker run ...

[silk stump]

for homeassistant:
docker run ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-homeassistant:2021.11.3

[humble mirage]

That's it?

No wonder you've got problems

docker run -d \
  --name homeassistant \
  --privileged \
  --restart=unless-stopped \
  -e TZ=MY_TIME_ZONE \
  -v /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config \
  --network=host \
  ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable

That's what the docs show

[silk stump]

Well tbh I followed the install (not sure where exactly) and never bothered with anything else.

[humble mirage]

You're not even mapping /config so all your config is lost... like tears in the rain

You didn't follow anything official

Or you were drunk

[silk stump]

haha

probably

[humble mirage]

I'd suggest you start fresh, with a compose file (see https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux#docker-compose), since your config is lost anyway

Then... sort out backups

[grand pivot]

And 2021.11... HA, like most software, does not age like fine wine

[silk stump]

My config is not lost. It's inside my homeassistant docker container in a ´config´folder. But I don't remember the exact install instructions I followed.

So I agree, fresh install would probably be better.

[grand pivot]

Well, the wrong ones 🙂

[humble mirage]

Hopefully you have enough Linux-fu to be able to extract the config from inside the container

[silk stump]

Thanks anyways, will put a fresh install on my to-do list.

[radiant void]

should i install ha-os in a Proxmox VM (with my zigbee dongles passed through) or on a dedicated RPi-4?

[humble mirage]

VM > Pi

[radiant void]

?

ah

ok

[humble mirage]

The Pi is a great educational tool

[radiant void]

the thing is,
since zigbee has not so good range and my server cant be in my room i think RPi will be the only option

[humble mirage]

Buy a network connected Zigbee coordinator

Zigbee is also a mesh network, point to point range doesn't have to be "good"

[radiant void]

I do not plan on running tensorflow on haos so i think performance will not be a problem

[humble mirage]

It's not just about performance

[radiant void]

what else?

[humble mirage]

SD cards die

[radiant void]

no sd card

[humble mirage]

Then it'll be ok

[radiant void]

good

[humble mirage]

Assuming you get the power right

Otherwise it'll be fine, until suddenly it's not

[radiant void]

i will have a sufficient psu + UPS

Is it possible to overclock a RPi running HA-Os

?

[humble mirage]

No

[radiant void]

why?

[humble mirage]

Because HAOS

[radiant void]

hmm

would be cool

[humble mirage]

Then ... don't use HAOS

[radiant void]

would it be possible to implement this in haos?

[humble mirage]

Probably, the question is whether the developers would

I'd expect not

[radiant void]

i may look into this and maybe maybe submit a pr

[raw hedge]

debug ssh.... yes

for most users... no

[radiant void]

ok

[crude inlet]

pretty sure HA OS is already pushing it with all the psu issues that come up

[humble mirage]

I'm always up for seeing yet another person with a broken install due to self inflicted power issues

||Why yes, I am a little evil||

[grand pivot]

||but I neeeed to run crysis||

[raw hedge]

poe+ hat 😛

what power issues

[unique crest]

I received a persistent notification notifying me that my storage was running low. I, ignorantly, assumed it was a bug and, without even thinking of checking the storage settings, restarted the Home Assistant instance. I am no longer able to access my instance (due to not having enough hard drive space). How would I go about accessing my Home Assistant Blue's (ODROID-N2+) internal storage so I can clear space even though I am unable to connect to it?

[humble mirage]

@unique crest please pick an avatar - it makes it much easier to notice when you post, rather than it being assumed your message is a continuation of the previous person posting

That said, you should be able to connect a keyboard and monitor

[unique crest]

Thank you!

[uneven panther]

I have installed HA-OS as a Proxmox VM, and when it initially was created it allocated 70GB. I want to reduce the VM disk size. I have reduced the (data) partition to 30GB (using gparted) and that all works fine. I can boot back up. But when I reduce the ZFS disk from 70GB to 32GB (to avoid cutting into the last part of the data partition) it fails to boot. It shows me the options: autoboot, boot 0, boot 1 and shell. Only the Shell option works. If I increase the ZFS disk back to 70GB it works again.

Does anybody know how I can get the VM disksize reduced?

Could it be linked to how the overlay partition is mounted? Or maybe something with the EFI boot section?

[crude inlet]

@uneven panther honestly, just create another VM and restore a backup

VM's are like tissue paper

[rare fossil]

Hello. I have a Pi4 and I was trying to install home assistant supervised, but it complains about not having /etc/default/grub

It also says Device "eth0 <newline here> eth0" does not exist

[raw hedge]

Don’t use home assistant supervised, use the os or go the container / core route

[rare fossil]

Why not?

Core is missing too many features. And the OS means that my Pi4 is single-purpose.

[grand pivot]

So is supervised if you follow the requirements

[rare fossil]

I guess that I could install it as a VM. I got a case with a touchscreen for it, and it's a bummer not to really use it.

[whole coral]

Urgent: I changed my carrier a couple days back and since then I can't connect to HA on 4G from android. When I am wifi works and when i give hotspot to other device works too. Other family members still using HA on 4G. Even from the browser of my mobile it's not working!

[viscid sigil]

What method are you using for external access?

[whole coral]

duckdns

[raw hedge]

and?

reverse proxy with port forwarding? vps server as a proxy with some kind of vpn?

[viscid sigil]

Assuming you did not change your router, does your new carrier use CGNAT (a lot of cellular carriers do). That is incompatible with DuckDNS. To check have a look at the IP address reported on the DuckDNS website for your domain. Is it different from your actual public IP address reported by your router? Is your router's public IP address in a non-routable private IP range?

[whole coral]

I am not a developer so not sure about the question but to be clear I didn't change my router or anything to do with my set up. I just switched cell carriers and even though I am still on the same phone I can't access my HA when I am outside of my home! My wife can still access HA from outside of home!

[raw hedge]

What about other Wi-Fi networks?

Your grocery store, Starbucks etc

[viscid sigil]

It has nothing to be with being a "developer." You switched cell carriers. So you need to find out if the new carrier uses CGNAT because this is incompatible with DuckDNS.

Also this is an #add-ons-archived question.

[royal sentinel]

is there a way to repair the supervisor if you cannot access add-on's anymore?
I know ha supervisor repair exists, but I cannot open the SSH web interface
already a long time broken since upgrading to Home Assistant 2022.2.9
and doing the Supervisor update at that time

Home Assistant Supervisor
error unknown

I powered it on and off 2 times, doesn't change it

it still works, but I'm stuck in 2022.2.9 now

so I hope there is a way to repair the supervisor, I use a RPi4 with Hass OS image

[hollow cave]

@royal sentinel maybe,
ha su repair
ha core rebuild
ha host reboot

[whole coral]

I gave myself hotspot from a different mobile and it worked. And gave the other mobile hotspot from my phone it did work! But when I am on my freaking 4G it doesn't

[hollow cave]

You need a vpn or duckdns

[dawn flame]

And this is why Docker is superior.

[viscid sigil]

They are using duckDNS. @whole coral have you done the tests I asked you to do yet?

Go to your router, find the public IP address. Go to your DuckDNS service web admin page (not the addon, the page you used to register the domain) and compare the address it reports. Is it the same?

[crude inlet]

@royal sentinel connected a keyboard and monitor to the pi?

[rare fossil]

I got supervised to work perfectly well on raspberry pi os in supervised mode.

[raw hedge]

Ducks a cnat issue

[raw hedge]

And I have a k8s cluster working perfectly on Raspberry pi os

Just because you can, does not mean you should

[rare fossil]

Then please help me understand why supervised is not a good way to run home assistant?

all I needed was https://community.home-assistant.io/t/installing-home-assistant-supervised-on-a-raspberry-pi-with-debian-11/247116/571

[opal pebble]

how do I uninstall the stable version to install the superior version?

[manic bane]

Supervised requires you to be an expert in docker, networking, and Linux. OS does not

There’s functionally no difference or advantage between the two

[manic bane]

Superior version?

[opal pebble]

yes

for the possibility to add addons

[manic bane]

That’s not the terminology for any of that

[opal pebble]

how can I add addons then?

[manic bane]

If you’re running container, then you can start any container (which is what add ons are) otherwise you can install OS and dedicate the machine to that

[opal pebble]

The server is running a few more things so I cant install the OS

[manic bane]

Then you can just install other containers and they’re add ons

All the add ons have container versions

It just requires some manual work to set it up

[opal pebble]

well then

I am having issues to connect HA with Amazon Alexa

(without subscription) following this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ww2LI59IQ0A&ab_channel=EverythingSmartHome

[manic bane]

What part are you having issues with

[opal pebble]

6:23

[raw hedge]

If you run supervised, you may as well docker compose

[opal pebble]

I cant find the button to edit the configuration

[opal pebble]

im on the stable version

[raw hedge]

@honest falcon https://lazyadmin.nl/home-network/install-home-assistant-raspberry-pi/#Home-Assistant-Network-Config

[opal pebble]

he has much more options than I do

[raw hedge]

Edit button on what page?

The dashboards?

[opal pebble]

https://cdn.agamsol.xyz:90/media/chrome_6lbQB21FVu.png

he has a VScode button

which I wish I had as well

[honest falcon]

It's an add-on most likely

[raw hedge]

https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/panel_custom/

Add your own

[opal pebble]

but I dont have the add-on button in settings menu

[raw hedge]

No need to use addons etc

[opal pebble]

but I want the add-on button as well

[honest falcon]

is this already setup with DHCP? so it can get an IP address automatically?

[raw hedge]

Don’t set manual for ipv4 then

[opal pebble]

I want to have the add-ons button
do I need the supervised version for it?

[honest falcon]

I set it for auto. And it didn't do anything

[raw hedge]

Then I would wait for some one who know more about ha os

[opal pebble]

I need help installing Home Assistant over again but I would like to have the add-ons button in the settings
which edition do I need to install

previously I installed stable version for docker (and it didn't have the add-ons button)

[manic bane]

@opal pebble why do you need the vscode add on. Just use VSCode on your computer and ssh in

Or run code-server

[opal pebble]

nono

I want it

I just do

gonna be much nicer for me

[manic bane]

Then yes you’ll need to dedicate the machine to HA

[opal pebble]

MUST?

[manic bane]

Supervised or OS both require only add ons and the core to run. Nothing else

So yes. Must

[opal pebble]

so to have addons in settings button

I must have a dedicated server?

[manic bane]

Yes. Or dedicated VM

Thus why we were saying container is better and just make do

[opal pebble]

whats the dedicated virtual macine one

[manic bane]

Especially since you can’t give a reason why you need it. Except for “I want it”

[manic bane]

You run a virtual machine on the server and run HAOS in that

[opal pebble]

Its just easy to access the files in the directory and edit them

[opal pebble]

Aint it going to take MUCH more resource of the server?

[manic bane]

Again, code server (for a web based interface) or just VSCode on your computer. They can do that. VSCode has a ssh extension that lets you work remotely

[manic bane]

Yes. Because you want the extra stuff

[opal pebble]

not that

the fact that its running in a vm

so its running 2 systems?

[manic bane]

Yes, it will use more resources. You are the one who wants to make your life more complicated

[opal pebble]

https://cdn.agamsol.xyz:90/media/chrome_rp40zPjoEL.png

[manic bane]

What you have will work fine right now

[opal pebble]

why it says its possible without OS than

[manic bane]

Also sorry not going to open links from random (possibly scam) domains

[opal pebble]

its my website

tf

[manic bane]

Sorry it’s not one I know. Please can you use a more known image host

[opal pebble]

ok sec

https://imgur.com/6IVcEXn

there

[manic bane]

Because supervised is the same as OS in that you must dedicate your install to it if you want it to be supported

[opal pebble]

so without that I must use each addon as a container?

[manic bane]

Yes. Using docker compose will make your life easy too

[opal pebble]

-v /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config \

home directory

/home/agam/HASS

[manic bane]

Use docker compose

It will make your life easy

[opal pebble]

whats that

[manic bane]

Google it

Way to do docker without needing command line arguments

Make your life easy

[opal pebble]

how can I get started with that one

[manic bane]

Google is your friend

[opal pebble]

oof

[opal pebble]

Docker Compose version v2.5.0

Wait so now what do I need to do?

[manic bane]

Docker compose: https://docs.docker.com/compose/gettingstarted/

Home assistant (scroll down to docker compose): https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/linux

[opal pebble]

I am not even sure what I am doing

I am just doing random things

[manic bane]

Then ask more information and others may be able to assist (I’m about to sleep so can’t)

Though if you’re running a home server you should really get to know how to use docker & docker compose well

[opal pebble]

I know the run stop and restart commands

lol

[manic bane]

Yeah start learning it well. It will be useful

[steep prawn]

Hi anyone know how i can install full home assistant on Ubuntu 20.04

?

The raw.githubusercontent.com .... do not work

[grand pivot]

depends on what you mean by "full home assistant", but your best option is a VM with one of the HA OS images

or a container install

[steep prawn]

Without HA OS but to have supervisor and addons

Container install

[grand pivot]

you're describing a Supervised install, and you can't do that on Ubuntu

and you really don't want to do it anyway

[steep prawn]

What will be the best way to install it on a NUC with ssd ?

[grand pivot]

one of the ways I suggested above, or you can install the generic x86 image directly

[steep prawn]

I try that but was not booting

On what you have it installed?

[grand pivot]

KVM on Ubuntu

[steep prawn]

Dose not eat resource?

[grand pivot]

🤷

[steep prawn]

It is installed on a pc or ?

[opal pebble]

how can I add a SSL certificate to HA website

openssl req -sha256 -addext "subjectAltName = IP:192.168.1.189" -newkey rsa:4096 -nodes -keyout privkey.pem -x509 -days 730 -out fullchain.pem

will this do the job?

[grand pivot]

yes, a Lenovo M20 tiny

[sleek geyser]

Hi all! Spent some time last night trying to resurrect an old raspberry pi2b (I'd upgrade to a 4 if I could get my hands on one). I tried the 8.0 build for the 2 (at least I think it was for the 2), tried the 7.2 and the 4.x too but all of them fail to start up any docker containers. Should it work? Are those builds really for a 2? 🤔

[manic bane]

You happy with an untrusted ssl cert?

[opal pebble]

as long as it says its secure

I have done this and restarted the container
but the certificate is still not secure

could you please have a look https://agamsol.xyz:8123/

[manic bane]

Well you got a cert issued to a local ip and that’s not where you’re accessing it from, plus it’s untrusted too

If you want external access look at running HA through a reverse proxy. Like traefik, caddy, ngnix, etc

[opal pebble]

more information please

[manic bane]

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=reverse+proxy+ngnix

[opal pebble]

its also unsecure from the local addresshttps://imgur.com/AhT7HaS

[manic bane]

Yeah untrusted cert. If you’re trying for remote access on your domain then look into a reverse proxy

[opal pebble]

for the main agamsol.xyz

I use certbot and I renew it every few months

[manic bane]

Before you expose your HA to the internet I recommend you do read up on how a reverse proxy works and how to do it

Probably good for #general-archived now too

[opal pebble]

I'd like to add a SSL certificate to HA

using sudo ./letsencrypt-auto certonly --standalone -d agamsol.xyz -d agamsol.xyz
can I specify the port?

anyways I cant use ssl as ports 80 and 443 are taken by pterodactyl

[rare fossil]

I've been using linux since nearly the beginning (1997-1998), and I work with Docker every day at work when I'm not writing software. So I'll be quite all right. 😉

[elfin crystal]

Afternoon folks, any insight into moving home assistant (with Conbee stick using zigbee2mqtt) from VM to a dedicated host? I assume i just need to install haOS, restore from snapshot, plugin the stick and make sure zigbee2mqtt knows it's dev address... anything else I need to know?

[raw hedge]

Use linuxserv.io swag container or traefik for a reverse proxy + TLS certs from letsencrypt

Or cert-manager + traefik on k8s

Example of k8s is https://github.com/miwagner1/k8s-at-home-with-k3s for swag, linuxserv has lots of docs on how to do it with docker compose

[high token]

pretty much just that

[elfin crystal]

@high token cool, I figured but wanted to make sure.

Thanks!

[high token]

and also if you have a static IP or a reserved IP that is port forwarded to update that IP into the new instnce of HA

or change the forwarding rule

[elfin crystal]

Yeah, sits behind proxy. Should be good there. Much appreciated

[high token]

also prefer to make a dummy account first and upload snapshot after rather than restoring during onboarding

nothing should be different but sometimes people exhibit some issues

[elfin crystal]

Oh, that’s interesting. Good call

[high token]

but you'll presumably have a keyboard and monitor plugged in so you can just monitor supervisor logs of what's going on if it comes to it

[elfin crystal]

That’s the plan. Got a small dell 3020 and will just use the nuc image. It’s a new set up anyways. So I can afford down/tinker time.

[steep prawn]

Anyone had issues after brun the HSO on the NUC ssd to not boot up?

[umbral flame]

Hello guys! Is it me or the "homeassistant" pypi package isn't published since the date is used as version?

$ pip3 install homeassistant==
Collecting homeassistant==
Could not find a version that satisfies the requirement homeassistant== (from versions: 0.7.0rc1, 0.7.0, 0.7.0.1, 0.7.1, 0.7.2, 0.7.3, 0.7.4, 0.7.5, 0.7.6, 0.7.7, 0.8.0, 0.9.0, 0.9.1, 0.10.0, 0.10.1, 0.11.0, 0.11.1, 0.12.0, 0.13.0, 0.13.1, 0.14.0, 0.14.1, 0.14.2, 0.15.0, 0.16.0, 0.16.1, 0.17.0, 0.17.1, 0.17.2, 0.17.3, 0.18.2, 0.19, 0.19.1, 0.19.2, 0.19.3, 0.19.4, [...], , 0.96.3, 0.96.4, 0.96.5)
No matching distribution found for homeassistant==

[grand pivot]

https://pypi.org/project/homeassistant/#history

[umbral flame]

Answering my own question, it seems to be here: https://pypi.org/simple/homeassistant/

My pip installation is probably broken

Alright, it's not shown in the list because pip seems to filter the output based on the Python version currently executed

[unique crest]

Thanks again for your help! I just wanted to let you know that after troubleshooting, I found out that the reason I ran out of space was due to a file called "home-assistant.log.1". It was taking 110 gb of space! I had recently made some changes to the logger configuration so I suspect it was due to that. In one week my disk usage went from 2 gb to 110+ gb!

[crude inlet]

@unique crest that's the HA log from the previous session

[manic bane]

You still have to dedicate the install to supervised too, so it’s up to you on whether you want that

[raw hedge]

...

why when you set out to do something simple... grows into a monster

[novel blaze]

why not just run HA in container (docker/podman/containerd) without supervised on host or whatever ?

[manic bane]

That’s what I do

[novel blaze]

or simple python3 install behind nginx on baremetal

[novel blaze]

i wonder why it is considered legacy by many integrations/projects (or dropped altogether) to have yaml configuration

[placid sage]

Ever since the new way of updating the update notification/entity doesn't show me an update button to click.. meaning I have to update by using the service call.
Does anyone have an idea what might be causing the button to not show up?
https://i.imgur.com/t8TkWNV.png

[grand pivot]

https://www.home-assistant.io/blog/2020/04/14/the-future-of-yaml/

[novel blaze]

Yeah, i have seen that. It does not justify dropping yaml in most of the integrations

[grand pivot]

Ok

[novel blaze]

It is like ‘we will drop a way for you to automate so you can only go click in web gui’

And no keeping history for you

I just don’t get it

That page actually said that both will move forward but next thing happens - yml configuration gets dropped by lots of projects

[true pewter]

Hi guys, would like to know the following. I'm planning to move my installation from a raspberry to an Intel NUC. Having some issues with my current running environment and it should be related to the SD Card but want to move to Intel NUC while I'm at it. Now one thing when restoring HA that I don't see mentioned anywhere: I expect that I need to restore to the exact same version of HA right? I didn't update for a while, running HAOS 7.6, there's a new Core version available. I didn't want to touch the Raspberry more than needed. Can I find the same older version so that I can install this on the NUC before restoring, or is the preferred way to first upgrade everything on the Raspberry to the latest version?

[viscid sigil]

7.6 is the latest stable version of HA OS.

The how far behind the latest core version (2022.5.4) are you?

[true pewter]

2022.3.3

[high token]

But restoring a full backup will also restore the HA version it was made in

but you can also update to a specific version of Core via the command line

[true pewter]

Ok well then it shouldn't be a problem if I install the latest version on the NUC, upload the full backup and just restore? That would be great

[high token]

You don't have the choice really in the beginning anyway. The HAOS images don't have Core in them. They download the latest version upon first installation

but yes then when you try to restore a backup you should see under Core that it's the older version you'll be restoring

[true pewter]

great thanks

[novel blaze]

https://github.com/home-assistant/architecture/blob/master/adr/0010-integration-configuration.md really ;/

[whole coral]

Yes it's the same

[sudden gust]

Hi,

I'm trying to install HA, I'm now stuck at the Preparing Home Assistant screen for over 3 hours or so. And in the Network tab I see this error log constantly. '21-10-12 19:04:55 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.5.4
21-10-12 19:04:55 INFO (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant with tag 2022.5.4.
21-10-12 19:04:56 ERROR (SyncWorker_2) [supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.5.4: 404 Client Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.41/images/ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.5.4/json: Not Found ("no such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.5.4: No such image: ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi3-64-homeassistant:2022.5.4")
21-10-12 19:04:56 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retry in 30sec'

[sudden gust]

And I get a 404 error because it can't find the manifest.json file

[grand pivot]

It's a network issue

Use 1.1.1.1 for DNS and disable ipv6

[sudden gust]

Do I need to change that in my router settings or? Don't really know what you mean sorry

[sudden gust]

This did not fix it for me

[charred solar]

Hello,
I am trying to install Home-Assistant with Supervisor in my Synology NAS using VM and I got into a couple of issues. (I am using the OVA image downloaded from https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/alternative )

• IPv4 is disabled and I only got an IPv6 (I solved it by configuring a manual IP and gateway in the CLI and disabling the IPv6 but could not set a nameserver)
• After finally starting Home-Assistant, I am not getting the supervisor option

Has anyone installed successfully using this method? Thank you...

[grand pivot]

-> Addons

There is no Supervisor sidebar icon anymore

[charred solar]

Oh! thanks... I was not aware of that change... It´s been a long time since I used it supervised

[sudden gust]

It still cant find the manifest file.. Any idea else on how to fix this?

[raw hedge]

Change dns reboot router, once it’s up reboot ha os

The issue you are having is a network most likely dns issue

[latent thistle]

https://ibb.co/7t4ydck is this normal?

[kindred sonnet]

Is this the correct channel for SSL related questions?

[humble mirage]

Probably

[kindred sonnet]

So, I've been trying to setul SSL, and my https://x.duckdns.org:8123 url is working fine, but on my internal network:

1. My homeassistant.local:8123
2. I have to use https://ip:8123
3. Mobile app doesn't work

In the Settings/General/Network i have a notice:
"You have configured an HTTPS certificate in Home Assistant. This means that your internal URL needs to be set to a domain covered by the certficate." So does this mean I have to generate a certificate also for the local url?

[humble mirage]

That's entirely normal and expected

If you want to use homeassistant.local or the LAN IP then you need to have a (reverse) proxy handle SSL

[kindred sonnet]

Thats a router option right?

[humble mirage]

No

That's another piece of software, something like NGINX or Caddy

[manic bane]

(Or traefik)

[humble mirage]

Your external connection then uses that instead of going directly to HA

[kindred sonnet]

Ok so I don't need that, but when trying to setup the internal address via IP I get:
The certificate for this server is invalid. You might be connecting to a server pretending to be "X", which could put your confidential information at risk.

What can I do about this?

[humble mirage]

You ... use a reverse proxy server

Right now you've got the connection to HA protected by an SSL certificate for yourhost.example.com - if you use anything else to connect to it then the client quite reasonably refuses to connect

This is exactly what's supposed to happen

To avoid it, you stop having HA handle the SSL, and instead have all your external connections route through a reverse proxy that handles SSL

[high token]

Alternatively can also just not use the IP and always use the domain instead

not that setting up a reverse proxy is complicated

[kindred sonnet]

Got it to work! I had to reinstall NGINX Home Assistant SSL proxy plugin

[sage gulch]

Ever since I changed from HAOS on Raspberry Pi to the VMWare ESXi install on Intel hardware, I'm having problems with my networking. The ESXi version just doesn't register the homeassistant name with my local DNS like the RPi install did. This is the first time I've used VMWare and I can't see what is wrong with the install or config. Is there someone who could help me please?

[kindred sonnet]

Thank you guys for the help! 🙂

[high token]

Ah so you were using a reverse proxy all along 😛

[sudden gust]

This did not work, still getting this error. Even reflashed to older versions but no luck

[dusk summit]

Trying to upgrade to HA OS 8.0, running on VirtualBox, keeps getting stuck on "A start job is running for Docker Application Container Engine", doe snot progress during this for one of the components, runs over 15 min

[placid sage]

Hi all, i'm new and trying to setup Home Assistant on a Raspi. At this moment i see the 'Preparing Home Assistant' for more then 20 miniutes. Anyone who can help me?

[humble mirage]

Click the blue circle

[placid sage]

Thnx, I see a lot of data...

[abstract hearth]

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

• https://dpaste.org/ (select YAML for the language)
• https://www.codepile.net/ (select YAML as the language)
• https://paste.debian.net/ (you guessed it, select YAML as the language)

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

Command '~share' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[placid sage]

Hmm I get an error when I want to paste the URL in here

https://www.codepile.net/pile/RBxM70E7

Ah here it is

[humble mirage]

Only thing I can see is

22-05-16 14:17:26 WARNING (MainThread) [supervisor.host.network] Requested to update interface eth0 which does not exist or is disabled.

You did connect it to a network cable?

[placid sage]

Yes...

miraculous I see the interface now

[amber iron]

How can I disable windows updates on my ha machine. Driving me nuts

[abstract hearth]

:point_up: Let me Google that for you...

Here , try this:
http://letmegooglethat.com/?q=disable+windows+update

Command '~lmgtfy' was invoked by: Tinkerer

[knotty dagger]

I just tried to update to 8.0, now it can't boot. Getting "incorrect compressed chunk" no matter if I select slot A or slot B, how do I get this fixed? I am running the Generic x86-64 image on a Lenovo Tiny

[amber iron]

That only really shows me the windows sanctioned solution which isn't really a solution and windows registry hacks from random website.com, which I'd rather not follow without someone else having successfully done it before 😅

[humble mirage]

The better solution is to not run Windows...

Install something like Proxmox

[high token]

@knotty dagger I would open an issue on github on the OS repository

I can see Stefan has been active in the last 30mins already in a few issues for 8.0 so you'll probably have better chances there

https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues

[amber iron]

Is proxmox basically an os that almost exclusively runs vms? That's what's looking like

[humble mirage]

Pretty much

[sleek geyser]

Anyone running haos on a raspberry pi 2 or is that a no no? I tried and failed, but my docker knowledge on rpi2 is minimal so I'm not sure why it wouldn't work.

[grand pivot]

it's not recommended

[sleek geyser]

Is there a trick to getting it working? I don't mind if it's just slow as it's just for tinkering (I can't buy a pi4 right now)

[crude inlet]

It should work, but the install process will take longer

Everything will take longer in general

[sleek geyser]

Errors with not being able to find the cli. Docker ps shows nothing.

[crude inlet]

Is it connected via ethernet?

[sleek geyser]

It is

[winged atlas]

hi guys, my HA was running fine for over a year, i updated recently and today i wanted to change something but i get
resolving "homeassistant.local:8123""/" ("") for "10.238.2.28" err: rpc error: code = Unknown desc = NXDOMAIN

on: http://homeassistant.local:8123/

[humble mirage]

What are you running it on?

Did you ever install the SSH add-on?

[winged atlas]

yes i did install SSH

i am running it on a Ubuntu PC

[humble mirage]

homeassistant.local will only work if you're using Home Assistant OS, or you've named the host homeassistant

[winged atlas]

i have HA OS 7.6 like in the screenshot

server is booted
https://postimg.cc/dZ3Q9drm
this is what i get
https://postimg.cc/56HNYBxf

[humble mirage]

Then I take it that HAOS is running in a VM?

[winged atlas]

exactly

[humble mirage]

What if you connect to these:

http://192.168.1.100:8123/
https://192.168.1.100:8123/

If both of those fail I'd assume that an Ubuntu update has screwed you over

[winged atlas]

nothing happens

no response from 192.168.1.100

[humble mirage]

Try SSHing to the IP, the username will be root (from memory)

If that fails too then your problem relates to the Ubuntu host

[winged atlas]

ok i am in via ssh

[inland panther]

How'd you do it? I updated to 8.0 and now it won't even pull an IP from my router.

[humble mirage]

They're not on 8.0

[inland panther]

Ah.

[winged atlas]

https://postimg.cc/yWrcdLvL

[inland panther]

Is anyone having issues after 8.0? I'm running it on a NUC

[humble mirage]

ha core logs will allow you to see what's going on with Core

[humble mirage]

https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues

[winged atlas]

https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/cajodipafi.php-template

its doing something, also my doorbell rang with an automation , but i cant access the GUI

[humble mirage]

Looks like HA is running but it's having networking issues

That again points to an Ubuntu update

ha supervisor logs

[winged atlas]

https://www.toptal.com/developers/hastebin/wawelexogi.yaml

[humble mirage]

Just the core container that's having issues then ... weird

Check the Ubuntu firewall settings

[winged atlas]

i already restarted the VM = same

the ubuntu worked for over a year , i changed nothing there

[humble mirage]

You didn't update Ubuntu at all

You don't have Ubuntu doing automatic updates

[winged atlas]

i have auto. updates

[humble mirage]

Well, there you go

[winged atlas]

but i have a message, that some aren't done

[humble mirage]

Which says that some were

[winged atlas]

you are right, but yesterday HA worked 😦

[humble mirage]

So, since yesterday you had an Ubuntu update that's causing you issues

[winged atlas]

looks like

[humble mirage]

First thing to try is a whole host reboot

[winged atlas]

if you say so

[humble mirage]

Well, you lose nothing by doing it, and it may fix the problem

[winged atlas]

i'll give it a try, ty

[winged atlas]

problem still there 😦

on my ubuntu machine , i can access the gui

on my win-pc not , lol