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raven forge
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It's the one above. Attached to ethernet via bridge.

twin glen
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you mean this red marked one

raven forge
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Yes and no.

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I mean the Attached to:. The one above. Select your ethernet here, then bridged below.

twin glen
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i dont understand

raven forge
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:<

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Use the Attached to: selection and show me the options.

twin glen
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check this picture these 8 options are the "Attached to:" options

raven forge
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Yeah perhaps it was Name then. My bad. I don't have VirtualBox right now.
The point is you want to bridge to your ethernet card.

twin glen
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np

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but can you help me what can i do now to fix this issue

raven forge
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Show me the options you have in the Name section to bridge to.

twin glen
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these 3 are the "Name:" options

raven forge
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Try the top one.

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Does it look different now?

twin glen
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it worked

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thanksšŸ‘ šŸ‘

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so i have to connect the ethernet cable and from the network setion select the correspoding controller

raven forge
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Think of a bridge like a network switch. Since you're connected via ethernet you have to connect one part of the bridge to the ethernet network card. The other part is connected to the VM.

twin glen
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hmm understood

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is there any way i can do this without the ethernet cable

raven forge
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Buy a cheap (U)SFF PC or Mini PC that you can keep connected to ethernet and virtualize on that instead. WiFi bridging has issues like explained earlier so I don't have a better suggestion.

twin glen
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okk

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can help with choosing the esp model

raven forge
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ESP model?

twin glen
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yes

raven forge
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I'm not sure what you mean by that.

twin glen
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esp32 model

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i mean

humble mirage
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That won't run HA

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HA runs on an actual computer, not an ESP or similar

twin glen
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i want to run HA in my laptop and get sensor data from sensors which connected to esp32

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can i do that

humble mirage
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Sure

twin glen
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ohh ok

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but which model of esp32 should i use

humble mirage
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But you need to tell them more šŸ˜‰

twin glen
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ohh okk thanksšŸ‘

cloud latch
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oops.. I turned off IPv4 on my home assistant.. and I can't find the display cable for my Pi. I managed to get the file system... but looking for the config where I can turn back on IPv4? Any ideas?

raven forge
cloud latch
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Horray! Now it got an IPv6 too! Yay!

smoky garnet
raven forge
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The only supported way is to use a build made for VMs.

smoky garnet
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Does that preclude the haos_generic-x86-64 image?

raven forge
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Yes.

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That is for bare-metal. HAOS has no package manager and is mostly read only.

smoky garnet
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Any advice on how to get the qcow2 image running on unRAID? I followed the installation thread on the forum, but I can't get it to boot. Other people in the thread seem to have similar problem and provide ambiguous advice like "download the other qcow image", which may have meant something to that perosn at the time of the post, but I can't find any other images or advice really on how to get it running. https://community.home-assistant.io/t/install-home-assistant-as-a-vm-on-unraid/270195

raven forge
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No I don't use unraid. I can only suggest checking youtube videos.

smoky garnet
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I was downloading the wrong image (arm64). I didn't realize there were other qcow2 artifacts for other architectures available on the release page, I had to expand to see them šŸ¤¦ā€ā™‚ļø

raven forge
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šŸ˜„

placid burrow
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I've made that mistake a few times with various things.
It's even worse with bootable ISOs for ARM servers because UEFI binaries are universal, so an x86-64 machine will actually run the bootloader just fine and only fails when you get to loading the kernel.

rustic briar
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Hey, I starte the restore of my backup 5 hours ago. (Its a backup of 45.5MB on a rasberry Pi 4). It was still loading and the site could not be reached can someone help me figuring out why it is broken?

raven forge
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Check ha supervisor logs -v via SSH/CLI.

frigid cipher
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Hello, I currently have homeassistant running on a raspberry pi 4b with direct installation. I now have a mini-pc with more power and would like to install Docker there to have more options. How should I best do the change to the new server?

raven forge
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If you're currently using HAOS you can only restore the HA part when migrating to docker. Not the addons.
The cool thing about having a real PC is that you can virtualize HAOS and run your other things in a different VM using docker.
So if you want the least things to change and the most freedom I would recommend that: #hardware-archived message

south mirage
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Howdy All - i brought [up a question](#frontend-archived message) about a possible performance regression in #frontend-archived - it was suggested I bring it up here as well. Basically the frontend is either freezing/unusable on various PCs/laptops - or on IOS devices the app will crash, or when it freeze the phone becomes very hot. Tried disabling themes thought maybe it was custom HACS frontend components (been slowly uninstalling them). On my laptop, for example, the chrome process associated with the HA tab is using 2 full CPUs.

If anyone has any troubleshooting thoughts, your help would be greatly appreciated. Also I don't know exactly when this started, I had surgery, then got covid from the hospital, so been basically down for 3-4 weeks...but in that time things have auto updated....cause i'm silly like that.

crude inlet
south mirage
tulip mirage
crude inlet
south mirage
tulip mirage
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Try chrome in incognito too

south mirage
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everywhere was multiple pcs, macs, linux boxen....but the whole family use crhome based browsers :lol:

tulip mirage
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While not in safe mode

south mirage
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yeah that makes no difference - looking at the network console, multiple seconds are spent loading things like https://ha.domain.house:8123/frontend_latest/12675.KkBUzwQ0TX8.js

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that one took 2.4 seconds for example

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and import_chunk_loading is what's calling all the js chunks and taking forever

tardy meteor
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I've got an old mini-pc I've been trying to put HAOS on. It's an x86-64 system, following these instructions:
https://www.home-assistant.io/installation/generic-x86-64/#write-haos-onto-your-x86-64-hardware

I tried both listed methods of installation (direct and via boot media) and neither of them succeeded their initial boot. Once the computer powers on, it just displays a blinking white underscore in the top left.

No server is started, doesn't display anything, nothing else happens

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I used the latest version, 13.1, which looks like it was released pretty recently.

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Is it worth trying the last version?

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Or are there any other ideas of what's wrong?

raven forge
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What does efibootmgr and lsblk -po+FSTYPE,LABEL in the console of the live booted ubuntu say? What's the model of the machine? Please ping me if you respond.

stray sierra
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Hello!

I cannot access Home Assistant from my phone (locally), but I can access HA from my computer.

I have Pihole set up with A records (homeassistant.local) pointing to my Caddy instance. On my Caddy instance, I use self-signed certificates and I have installed these certificates on all my devices as well. However, I am unable to access https://homeassistant.local from my phone even though it works on my computer. I can access https://pihole.local just fine from my phone using the same setup as HA. I can access http://192.168.2.X:8123 from all devices including my phone

I did notice that if I enable Wireguard (VPN) which is hosted on the same device as HA, then the connection will work.

My configuration.yaml looks as follows:

  use_x_forwarded_for: true
  trusted_proxies:
    - 192.168.2.X # Add the IP address of the proxy server```

The error if I try to access HA from my phone using Chrome is Connection Refused. Might be similar to this issue: https://community.home-assistant.io/t/android-app-unable-to-connect-to-home-assistant/158322/73

Anyone any idea what's up with this?
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Some more information. I added ::/0 to the whitelisted proxy and I am able to access https://homeassistant.local on my phone now! However, I do get the error that it is unable to fetch auth providers, so I believe the issue indeed lies within IPv6 vs IPv4.

Edit: I turned off IPv4 from my PC and homeassistant.local does not load indeed! Therefore, confirmed IPv4 and IPv6 issues. I'll debug a bit more to identify the solution for this

Some more information after an hour: I can access http://[IPV6]:8123 just fine. However, https://homeassistant.local still doesn't work. I tried setting an A-record in PiHole to the IPv6 address of Caddy as well, but no luck. Setting a reverse proxy to the IPv6 address of HA doesn't work either

south mirage
civic thorn
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Hey, i installing Home Assistant right now, it says to me Error while installing Home Assistant

[supervisor.homeassistant.core] Error on Home Assistant installation. Retrying in 30sec

[supervisor.docker.interface] Updating image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:landingpage to ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2024.8.3

[supervisor.docker.interface] Downloading docker image ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant with tag 2024.8.3.

[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/raspberrypi4-64-homeassistant:2024.8.3: 500 Server Error for http+docker://localhost/v1.45/images/create?tag=2024.8.3&fromImage=ghcr.io%2Fhome-assistant%2Fraspberrypi4-64-homeassistant&platform=linux%2Farm64: Internal Server Error ("Get "https://ghcr.io/v2/": dial tcp: lookup ghcr.io: no such host")

It tries to download this image but it doesn't work

Any solutions?

crystal dawn
civic thorn
crystal dawn
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How much memory space ŲŸ

civic thorn
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128GB

crystal dawn
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you restart docker

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?

civic thorn
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i can't access via SSH, only via Web Terminal

crystal dawn
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i think you can got to setting add ons then terminal &ssh on configration

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and set password or ssh specify port to connect then save

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$ ssh root@homeassistant.local -p 2222

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you have some pic ?

raven forge
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Please run ha network info via the CLI.

civic thorn
crystal dawn
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you have any Security ŲŸ

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you use int in your home or company ?

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can you send a logs by txt file ?

raven forge
civic thorn
civic thorn
crystal dawn
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you cant put username and password this issue before

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you cheacked the DNS

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can i install it aging together ?

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to check step by step ?

south mirage
# south mirage Safe mode didn't fix it šŸ˜ž

but i think i figured it out. The other day someone tried wardriving my wifi - attempted like 20k+ connections from unique mac address. The Unifi integration, created 20k+ devices and 50k+ entities in home assistant. I'm guessing the webui downloads a massive json blob of all the devices/entities?

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deleted the unifi integration and now everything is working great

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looking at the performance profiler in chrome, that is correct - the JS heap before was like 120+MB. Now it's 20mb

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no clue why firefox handled it like a champ, but chrome and the companion app pooped the bed

deft snow
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Greetings. Iā€™m debating making things needlessly difficult for myself, and moving ā€œuntrusted devicesā€ onto a different network (VLAN). Iā€™m wondering what the considerations are, related to Home Assistant, in preparing the setup. Does anybody have experience doing this?

humble mirage
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Move everything that HA talks to to that VLAN - and move HA itself

deft snow
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Yeah, that would be ideal.

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But that wouldnā€™t achieve what Iā€™m trying to do. Because trusted devices talk to HA too.

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Iā€™m wondering about putting HA on 2 different VLAN at the same time. Iā€™ve gathered from some web searches that this is possible in Home Assistant OS. Iā€™m not sure how HA would handle that though. Any thoughts?

humble mirage
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That's likely to give you problems, but it may work well enough for you

deft snow
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Appreciate the warning. What kind of problems would you expect? Discovery?

humble mirage
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Anything mDNS/broadcast/SSDP related

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Honestly, for 99.999999% of home users VLANs are just pain, and it's not like they're an actual security feature

deft snow
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Sorry for disappearing. Got a phone call about a repair.

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All of my IoT stuff could be on the same network. The only things Iā€™d need outside of that network are traffic ingress from the public internet and a bunch of mobile devices, Apple TVs, etc. Itā€™s the latter that has me wondering how HA gets updated, but I guess thatā€™s more of an #integrations-archived question.

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I already have VLANs running. Itā€™s fine. Just right I donā€™t split IoT stuff onto its own network.

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Anyway ā€¦. food for thought. Appreciate your comments. Thanks for sharing!

proven grove
deft snow
proven grove
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Personally, I have 5 VLANs, 4 of which cannot reach the internet but have limited communication internally (using various firewall rules). Iā€™ve never had to multihome HA, but I also donā€™t have much of a need for mDNS either.

deft snow
deft snow
proven grove
proven grove
deft snow
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Iā€™m planning a DMZ where my ā€œexternally accessibleā€ stuff lives, such as the TLS termination. There is one discrete channel to port 8123 of HA from there, so those can live on a separate LAN with just a hole punched in the firewall.

deft snow
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Thanks for the comments. Appreciated.

bleak vale
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Hello guys! Been using Homeassistant for a while but have discovered recently that I'm getting a lot of connectivity issues. my adress works on and off, and i cant really control how/when.

I've set up duck dns with letsencrypt so traffic is over HTTPs atleast. But the problem remains (without any clear indicators in the logs btw) that the connection is not reliable.

After tinkering today I've managed to make it work on the "local" adress, i.e. https://homeassistant.local:8123, but now the external one is not working back and forth. Any ideas on how/where i should start troubleshooting? tearing my hair out with this.

humble mirage
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Intermittent problems could be DuckDNS problems

bleak vale
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I've worked through that one, I think that's why i got the internal link to work, but accessing this from outside the network and so on is half the reason im running homeassistant so i really wanna get this up and running reliably.

I've been monitoring duckdns' status when i have troubles but they don't seem to coincide too much. Anything else I can check? I'm running homeassistant OS on a raspberry pi 4 if that matters. It's wired directly to my router.

humble mirage
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When it fails:

  1. Check to see if the hostname resolves to the WAN IP shown in your router
  2. Check to see if the port still shows open on the IP
  3. Check to see if the port still shows open on the hostname
bleak vale
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It's actually right now apparently. So.

  1. Nslookup (im on mac) says the server cant find my url.
  2. Port is still open.
  3. Not sure how to do this one, care to elaborate?
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Duckdns IP matches with my public IP

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Hm. If i use the dyndns i set up in my router (an ASUS AX6000), i get access through the same equivalent link. Maybe i should stop using duckdns all together and that's fine?

humble mirage
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  1. Says that you've got DNS problems/DuckDNS problems
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DuckDNS being broken isn't unusual

bleak vale
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Ah alright. So steering clear of it might be a good move then?

humble mirage
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Yes

bleak vale
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Ah cool. I'll see if i can go the asus dyndns route then. Thanks!

deft snow
humble mirage
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Keep in mind that mDNS repeaters can break things horribly

deft snow
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Yeah, Iā€™m not planning on mirroring mDNS or other black magic. I need to see what kind of broadcast and multicast traffic is used on my network I guess. Do some homework before I start changing things.

proven grove
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lol

stray sierra
warm elm
# stray sierra Anyone that can help me with this?

Sounds like a DNS issue. if your pc and phone are on the same network can you run a nslookup to the dns name and see if it has any results? are you sure your phone is being pointed to the pihole DNS server also?

lean ferry
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ok I've messed up something with my firewall and ingress. I switched my nabucasa URL to use my custom domain so ha.austin.com, that all seemed to work just fine. But now when I'm remote, the dashboard components using Frigate and MusicAssistant don't load. I'm using a custom URL with iframe to load the path /ccab4aaf_frigate-proxy/ingress - which works locally but not over app/remote. I then tried the full URL ha.austin.com/ccab4aaf_frigate-proxy/ingress and it gives a firefox malicious url error.

What should I be using to make this work? I have a "CCTV" dashboard that is just a panel:true, and this webpage iframe url

stray sierra
remote scaffold
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Hello, I just got my home assistant yellow kit (POE) and I tried to install the OS although it just shows a solid red LED. How can I resolve this issue?

humble mirage
late wyvern
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hello! how should i get started with home assistant? yellow and green are not sold in my country
it should also ideally be relatively cheap lol

north spindle
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Hi!
I use HA through Google Home.
I control my Philips Hue lights through Google Home, but the lights themselves are connected on HA.
Whenever I ask my lights for something, say turn off, the lights do turn off, but google says "Sorry, I couldn't reach Philips Hue" is there a fix to this?

humble mirage
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I couldn't reach Philips Hue
That sounds like they're connected to Google directly, not via HA

north spindle
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I even checked lol

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I might just have to start all over, this is super annoying lol

humble mirage
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So you need to clean up Google first

north spindle
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Darn! Okay, I'll try again

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I am 100% certain philips hue is not connected to my google

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I just tried to re add philips hue, to then remove philips hue again, and now when I try to add philips hue, the app tells me it can't reach philips hue

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I'm so confused

humble mirage
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Well... I'm 100% certain:

  1. This is the wrong channel
  2. That's not HA that it can't reach
north spindle
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Oh my bad, I thought I was in general šŸ˜¬

humble mirage
rare grove
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Hi all, have an issue with a backup/restore, wanna be sure I do the right thing.

  1. I have R-Pi4 with a full HAOS installation. I also have a recent umbrelOS with HA installed as an app (I suppose dockerized), an Intel N100 based device. Both have the same HA version: 2024.8.3. I only use a Zigbee dongle to connect a few Zigbee devices.

  2. Making a backup on HAOS was a no-brainer. Then uploading it to HA on umbrelOS was a bit tricky, but I did it (after copying with a terminal and restarting HA did see it). But then I realised HA app on umbrelOS has no option to restore a backup: only the Download and Delete backup buttons are there.

So, what do I do now? Is there a way to restore a backup? Or it makes more sense to rework it all from scratch to avoid possible issues with changing arch (ARM to Intel x64)?

Another question is, does this migration make sense, or it is better to just buy another mini-PC dedicated to HAOS? I don't like it running on R-Pi4 and SD card anymore and am afraid to lose all setup when the device count grows. I have a few devices waiting for connecting as well.

Sorry for probably a generic question on installation, but I hope someone with experience can give good advice. Thanks in advance!

dense wyvern
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Hey Fomo, did you connect remote_homeassistant via TailScale? I'm not able to make it work?

frigid cipher
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I have been running a server with home assistant for about 1 1/2 years, now I want to move from the PI to a thin client, but I am not completely confident with the setup and almost want to start from scratch. Or even not 100% form scratch. I would only like to take the data for the electricity consumption and the PV system from the energy dashboard onto the new server. Is that possible?

empty bloom
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It would be best to restore a backup of your PI onto the thin client, and then reconfigure things. Otherwise you will likely lose history.

austere wren
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First of all, iam Mick and new here. Ive ran into a problem with the cloudflare. I cant login my HAOS. the error message is with "argo tunnel error". it was doing fine until today. is there anyone who also experienced it or know what to do?

worthy jackal
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Just got started with home assistant by installing its docker container on my raspberry pi. Now do you guys have your home assistant accessible from the internet? I could set up another cloudflare tunnel and have it as a sub domain to my personla domain.... but is this secure enough? Of course I would choose a very secure password for it, but is it generally discouraged/encouraged to have home assistant accessible over the internet?

ionic galleon
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anyone here with experience booting HA via USB SSD Adapter on an RPi 3b+? USB Boot is enabled (by default but i double checked anyways). i tried two different SSDs i got lying around, tried flashing image via balena etcher and RPi Imager. If i try via a normal USB Drive it works but my Pi strictly refuses to boot via SSD. The USB Adapter has power (LED is flashing). https://imgur.com/a/peDLx35 (thats the screen it gets indefinitely stuck in). Additionally theres a usb keyboard plugged in and an ethernet cable.
Any ideas are appreciated

stray sierra
# warm elm Sounds like a DNS issue. if your pc and phone are on the same network can you ru...

"It can't be DNS"

"It was DNS"

I added the IPv6 address of my Caddy server to the A records and it works now. I have no idea why it didn't work on the first attempt, maybe I had something else misconfigured. Thanks a lot!

tl;dr Phone cannot access local HA domain, but can access other local domains with the same setup. Solution is to include an A-record to the IPv6 of the reverse proxy as well. Other applicationa didn't need this.

warm elm
fringe sonnet
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Is there a way to disable Rescue mode in the HA OS?
I fully understand why it exists in linux, but in HA, most hosts doesn't have screen to check if it's stuck waiting for me to press Control D... maybe a timeout i needed

boreal goblet
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off topic, but is it possible to back up the original firmware using tuya cloudcutter, cut the cloud, and flash the backup again?

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feit electric fetape/rgbw/cont v1.0.2

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tuya cloudcutter offers v1.0.6 and v0.0.6, which one?

tender wren
boreal goblet
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sorry

azure osprey
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I am currently running home assistant on a raspberry pi with HAOS. I'm going to migrate away from the pi onto my home server running proxmox. I can either migrate to a dedicated VM with HAOS, or an existing VM where I already run some docker containers. Are there any big reasons to pick one over the other?

humble mirage
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Do you want add-ons?

azure osprey
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I am already using a few. Like ESPHome, Mosquitto

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zigbee2mqtt I'm already running in a docker container

humble mirage
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Then if you want to keep using them you want a VM with HAOS

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If you're happy with Docker just keep rocking that instead

azure osprey
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I do like being able to do the updates for just about anything through the HA interface with HAOS.

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so maybe I'll stick with that.

primal wadi
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Can I install HA without an image. Just on top of RASPBIAN os?

humble mirage
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Yes

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But not HAOS

tender wren
humble mirage
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If you want add-ons then you have to use the HAOS image

chrome tiger
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I'm new to Home Assistant. I have a 8 GB raspi pi 5 and a 4 GB rspi 5 and a zoosk Zwave 800 stick. I want to install HASS with Docker and use the 4 gb to run Zwave from. I do not want to use Add ons. I cannot find specific instructions to do that. 1) is this possible and 2.) if it is possible would you point me in the right direction? I am some what tech saavy but this is a world that I've not explored much but excited to get there.

humble mirage
primal wadi
tender wren
raven forge
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Make sure to use compose.

primal wadi
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@charred current Thanks

primal wadi
raven forge
frosty path
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Is there a way to move an existing HAOS install directly (and complete) to an SSD that is already connected to the PI 5?

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as far as i know the move storage command is only moving the storage (config folder, etc) but not the entire system

raven forge
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In theory you can dd it via developer SSH access but the best choice is to flash HAOS to the SSD and then restore a backup.

frosty path
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has HAOS issues regarding the Size of the SSD? Mine is 1TB

raven forge
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Not that I'm aware of but the pi might be picky with the models it is able to boot off of.

frosty path
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ok, i will give it a go

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lets see what will happen šŸ˜„

primal wadi
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I have an error on docker. I wrote the script in terminal but it gives me error ā€šdocker run needs at least 1 argumentā€˜

humble mirage
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And what command did you enter?

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And ... why are you using docker run instead of the compose files you were advised to use?

primal wadi
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They donā€™t worked

humble mirage
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"they"?

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What did you try?

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What error did you get?

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Help us help you

primal wadi
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I do jorgs tutorial again

docker run -d
--name homeassistant
--privileged
--restart=unless-stopped
-e TZ=MY_TIME_ZONE
-v /PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG:/config
-v /run/dbus:/run/dbus:ro
--network=host
ghcr.io/home-assistant/home-assistant:stable

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But permission denied

humble mirage
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  1. you're supposed to change PATH_TO_YOUR_CONFIG
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  1. your user has to be in the docker group
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  1. you probably want to use HAOS
primal wadi
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@humble mirage can you send me the script to install docker new and try it again?

humble mirage
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What OS?

primal wadi
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Raspbian

humble mirage
frosty path
primal wadi
humble mirage
primal wadi
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@humble mirage what shouls i do here:If you use a derivative distro, such as Kali Linux, you may need to substitute the part of this command that's expected to print the version codename:

(. /etc/os-release && echo "$VERSION_CODENAME")
Replace this part with the codename of the corresponding Debian release, such as bookworm.

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should i replace he word with VERSION_BOOKWORM

humble scaffoldBOT
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@primal wadi Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.
When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

humble mirage
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Well... you haven't said what actual problem you're having

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Did you try just running the command?

primal wadi
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no

humble mirage
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Why don't you do that first and see if it works šŸ˜‰

primal wadi
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ok

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maybe because it can cause errors

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it answered bookworm

humble mirage
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Just set up the repo

primal wadi
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I did. 2nd step is to run the daemon but my system canā€™t connect to the docker daemon at unix://var/run/docker.sock is the docker daemon running?

humble mirage
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Is your user in the docker group?

#

That or use sudo

slate bronze
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Have a HA setup on a Pi + SSD, not getting any output on HDMI after powerup, and not showing up on the network. Possible to pull config before wiping the SSD?

primal wadi
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i did sudo, i dont know about group

raven forge
slate bronze
raven forge
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You can use something like LinuxReader on windows to copy the core configs.

slate bronze
#

well, I can't paste an image.

visual rune
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hi Im new to home assistant. having trouble with installation.

crystal dawn
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where you installation home assistant

visual rune
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?I have home assistant green and . well me and my husband got it plugged in and didnt know what to do. it was all in code or yaml. My husband thinks he got ot on yje phone but the only thing that came up was the ring cameras. We cant get an interface . from what I see on youtube . we got a tablet for ha but I would like to get it on my desktop also but thats windows very fusturated

humble scaffoldBOT
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@slate bronze Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

raven forge
# slate bronze I've looked through these and can't find ~\config\backups

I didn't tell you where you can find it.

# find / -name configuration.yaml
/mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant/configuration.yaml

# findmnt -T /mnt/data/supervisor/homeassistant/configuration.yaml
TARGET    SOURCE    FSTYPE OPTIONS
/mnt/data /dev/sda8 ext4   rw,relatime,commit=30

# lsblk --fs | grep -E "(/mnt/data|sda8|MOUNTPOINTS)"
NAME   FSTYPE   FSVER LABEL          UUID                                 FSAVAIL FSUSE% MOUNTPOINTS
`-sda8 ext4     1.0   hassos-data    9b0bfdd2-eb14-4b28-97a0-c63274ea5322   23.4G    20% /var/lib/docker
                                                                                         /mnt/data

In case it isn't clear the config directory is the supervisor/homeassistant/ directory on the biggest ext4 formatted partition with label hassos-data.

humble mirage
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?I have home assistant green and . well

lucid bison
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OK

mild stratus
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Hi all!! I have been struggling with the "hassio.host_reboot" service. Mi config is HASSOS installed in a KVM virtual machine over Alpine Linux host, but when running the service Home Assistant stops working, it is not rebooting the system properly and only hangs doing nothing. Do anyone know how to reboot te VM from inside it?? Thanks and sorry if this is not the proper place where to ask (also sorry about my english grammar hehehe)

tender wren
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It it really doing nothing? It needs some time to stop everything and do the actual visible reboot

mild stratus
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it seems not to be doing anything, but let me try it again and give it some time

#

it seems to shut down, connection to the web frontend is lost some secconds after running the service, but it is not responding anymore. As I say, I'll give it some time and check later if is running

humble mirage
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Check the VM console

mild stratus
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not working, it says "Connected to domain 'hassos'" but I cant do anything than exiting, i cant type any command or anything

mild stratus
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Half an hour and not responding... restarting the host and running the VM takes less than 5 minutes

raven forge
mild stratus
raven forge
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In this case enter login and then reboot.

mild stratus
#

dont know how to send a picture and the "#" are not showing as text

humble scaffoldBOT
#

To format your text as code, enter three backticks on the first line, press Enter for a new line, paste your code, press Enter again for another new line, and lastly three more backticks.
```yaml
example: here
```
Don't forget you can edit your post rather than repeatedly posting the same thing.

#

Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

mild stratus
#

thx

humble mirage
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Check the add-on logs

tall pebble
#

Hey there. Newbe here. I have a question regarding an installation of HAOS on an x86-64 NUC PC. ( I have a I5 one). I folllowed the steps from the Website and that wend well. Now it boots for the first time and i can see the Home Assistant welcome banner in the console. but no desktop is comming up is see a blinking cursor in the ha< line .. the ha> is green

#

Anyone an idea what wend wrong ?

humble mirage
#

Nothing went wrong

#

There's no desktop

honest kite
humble mirage
#

Do see the getting started steps šŸ˜‰

tall pebble
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So i type the url in the consol?

#

That canr be right

#

Ok ill check my steps again. Most likely i missunderstand something

humble mirage
#

No

#

in a web browser

honest kite
#

on your computer/ phone

humble mirage
#

Your phone, laptop etc

tall pebble
#

Im such a dumbnut .. sure .. now i get it..

#

Thank you

honest kite
#

No hard feelings, everyone is lost sometimes. Glad we could help

zealous yoke
#

OK, I have a problem:

I was running 2024.6.0, tried to update multiple times from the interface to 2024.9.0, but those failed but with nothing I could find in logs (I may be looking in the wrong logs).

I switched to using the cli and decided to attempt to upgrade version by version as that tends to be more reliable for most software.

I did an ha core update --version 2024.7.0
supivisor is now angry
2024-09-05 09:03:11.190 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.homeassistant.core] Home Assistant has crashed!
and ha core check never returns
[core-ssh ~]$ ha core check
Processing... Done.

Post "http://supervisor/core/check": context deadline exceeded (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)
but leaves nothing in the logs when I do ha core logs

humble mirage
#

Reboot the host?

worthy knoll
#

Good evening,

I have an issue with the installation of HA on a SSD connected through USB to my Raspberry PI 5

It starts normally "OK" everywhere then "Waiting for the Home Assistant CLI to be ready" and the problems start.

".usr/sbin/hassos-cli: line 9: docker: Input/output error"
etc I will show you a picture

#

If you have any idea please

humble mirage
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Is the SSD on a powered USB hub?

worthy knoll
#

Yes

humble mirage
#

That rules out the usual problem

#

That image shows either power problems, cable problems, or a dead SSD

worthy knoll
#

Well, everything is brand new :(

crude inlet
#

some kind of hardware problem there. how did you install to the SSD?

worthy knoll
#

Hardware :

  • Raspberry Pi 5 Barebone (Cortex-A76 / 4GB DDR4)
  • Waveshare Power Supply For Raspberry Pi 5 27w - Type-c
  • Patriot P300 SSD 128GB M.2 NVMe PCI Express 3.0
  • LC-Power Case for Hard Drive M.2 PCI Express / SATA III with Connection USB 3.2 Type-C
worthy knoll
#

Then I connected it on the blue USB port

zealous yoke
trail spoke
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deleted

primal wadi
#

I am stuck on boot screen after sd flash

ha>

What should I do here?

tender wren
#

What so you expect more?

primal wadi
#

Starting Home assistant without a touch

tender wren
#

You mean a UI?

primal wadi
#

Yea

tender wren
#

There is no UI on the video output of the host

#

You need to use a browser

primal wadi
#

I tried but canā€™t accesss, and the Pi wlan is not set so how?

#

I forgot the lab cable

tender wren
placid sage
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I got an recorder error after upgrading core to 2024.9. It says that the connection to the database was lost during an execution, but I was able to connect to it without issues.Logger: homeassistant.components.recorder.migration
Source: components/recorder/migration.py:753
integration: Recorder (documentation, issues)
First occurred: 9:35:37 PM (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 9:35:37 PM

Could not update foreign options in states table Do you have any hints? I did not find any proper answer to this

#

And I do not know how to do new lines on mobile...

primal wadi
#

I have a solar Bluetooth charger. Can I control it over HA Bluetooth proxy even if itā€™s a no brand name and not in the integration list of HA?

tropic hill
#

I'm running HA in a container with network_mode: host. A while ago I noticed mdns wasn't working anymore (also seeing this in my esphome container). Pinging any .local addresses turned up nothing. I've spent a couple hours today trying to figure out this issue but have gotten nowhere. Any recommendations of things I should look into?

crude inlet
primal wadi
#

does anybody know if i can connect to esp out of my home network?

humble mirage
#

Depends... does that run ESPHome, Tasmota, or...?

dim raven
#

I'm goin route of pi4 HAOS on sd card and read/write on ssd...
Is it possible to do it without ssd then add ssd later?

#

Or should I just wait until SSD arrives and do it together

sage kestrel
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I am using duckdns to access ha both externally and internally at home. Two iPhones are not able to connect every time when at home, but through 5G itĀ“s finei ItĀ“s returning an URL error, while my Macbook connects fine every time. suggestions on what to look for?

humble mirage
crude inlet
river carbon
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I'm trying to use caddy to set up a reverse proxy for multiple subdomains on my network. While troubleshooting I ran across this error message in the Caddy logs: Sep 05 17:22:25 nginx caddy[587]: {"level":"error","ts":1725574945.597386,"logger":"tls.obtain","msg":"could not get certificate from issuer","identifier":"home.domain.org","issuer":"acme-v02.api.letsencrypt.org-directory","error":"HTTP 403 urn:ietf:params:acme:error:unauthorized - Cannot negotiate ALPN protocol "acme-tls/1" for tls-alpn-01 challenge"} Is this going to cause issues with my Cloud cert eventually?

timber lagoon
#

I assume you made your own certs?

dim raven
crude inlet
humble mirage
#

I don't suppose you have a decent

drowsy wyvern
#

Hey.. Another networking question.
My HA stopped connecting to the wifi. Running on metal , Pi 5
Ethernet connection still up.

I have a separate network for IoT and previously it worked fine. My router doesn't give options to allow connections between subnets.
I bypassed it by just using both Eth an Wireless interfaces at the same time.
Are there any commands so I could reset WLAN0 settings perhaps?

drowsy wyvern
#

Hey.. Another networking question.

primal wadi
#

Can someone help. I need the real pi of my HA Pi, but donā€™t know how because the ā€žip adrrā€œ donā€™t work from the ha> terminal

proven grove
#

ha network info

primal wadi
#

Thx

#

But my problem isnā€™t fixed

#

I am trying to integrate an ESP32 bt proxy into my ha but the ESP32 is connected by a 4G stick and not near around me and my ha is connected with my home network. How can I integrate it if I just can use the internal up Adresses?

humble helm
#

Guten abend.
Daher das ich nicht gut bin in englisch gibt es hier jemanden deutschsprachigen der mir eventuell biƟchen helfen kann.
FĆ¼r mich ist das alles sehr neu und kenne mich damit nicht aus.

primal wadi
#

Ich auch

tender wren
crude inlet
pastel canyon
#

Hello! Me again! After a restart of the HA container (running on Synology NAS, Host seems fine), the ui came back up, but has since gone down, the logs do not indicate why the websocket / webui is hanging or even when it started to fail, how can I investigate this a bit more completely?

raven forge
#

Did you check the log file or the docker logs?

pastel canyon
#

log file home-assistant.log shows v little, v good point on docker logs, but considering the ssh works and everything else seems fine 'behind the scenes' I didn't think of it

raven forge
#

If core has issues it might not be be able to log things and the container logs might still show something.

pastel canyon
#

docker log for the container shows the same as the home-assistant.log file

#

complaints that some entities are taking too long to report (TRV's with low batt / disc. etc)

#

or maybe i'm not looking in the right place

#

docker logs [continer id] is what I ran from ssh

#

not sure where else to look, which is kind of what i'm asking for

#

log.fault is empty too btw

raven forge
pastel canyon
#

v grateful, thank you

#

perfect! just what I was looking for, very appreciative @raven forge

#

asyncio was talking about some timeouts with authentication on one of the previous log files I did manage to pull off from a few days ago, it also showed a url of a webpage I was browsing on my home PC, right there in the log file which I found incredibly bizzare

#

hope HA aint spying on me šŸ˜‰

raven forge
#

In case you can't reach the UI you can also trigger safe mode by stopping HA, creating a safe-mode file in the config directory and then start.

rare shell
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Can I install HA on a micro sd card on which Raspberry Pi OS is installed or do I need a dedicated card for HA? I only have one Pi and would like to have other apps on it next to HA. I only found an installation guide for Home Assistant OS, which removes any other files on the SD card.

#

Is the right way to do this to actually remove Raspberry Pi OS and to use proper Debian instead?

pastel canyon
#

you have the option of running docker on the pi and then HA as a container? šŸ¤”

rare shell
pastel canyon
#

The pi may struggle with proper debian, its not got the same underlying architecture

#

folks also don't recommend running HA on a PI in general, it's a little weak for when you get a lot of integrations running

rare shell
#

oh really? back in 2021 when I did this it seemed everyone said Pi is the best option ^^

pastel canyon
#

i'd recommend to crack on if you're just getting into it and want to learn what you can about HA and smart homes! It may also depend on what other apps you're looking to run on the pi but with any sbc you can start to run into resource constraints quite quickly

rare shell
#

sbc?

pastel canyon
#

single board computer

#

like a raspi etc

rare shell
#

i see wow... I was hoping to run NordVPN and HA on my Pi ^^

raven forge
pastel canyon
#

That might not be too much of an issue, but i'd listen to @raven forge more than me

#

also, why NordVPN? just to mask your traffic?

rare shell
#

NordVPN to put the entire home network behind a VPN

pastel canyon
#

fair enough! my config (which works incredibly well with all the selfhosting and smarthome shiz I've got) is tailscale with the mullvad addon

#

allows me to create a fully private mesh vpn for my containers, endpoints mobile devices etc, and I can still configure an exit node in whichever country I want

#

And they have great docker integrations

#

but! alas I'm not here to promote, only mention what works well for me šŸ™‚

#

seems like docker is the way forward for you

rare shell
#

wow that sounds like it's too high level for me, but it does sound great!

#

thank you for your help. I'll look into the docker solution

timid tulip
#

The kernel in HaOS doesn't support the graphics chip in my NUC. Is it possible to replace that with a newer version?

humble mirage
#

No

timid tulip
#

Can it use the UEFI driver?

crude inlet
#

There's no display manager in haos. Are you thinking to use it for hw acceleration?

#

If so then uefi probably won't do

#

You could submit it as an issue with the rest of your nuc details

timid tulip
#

And also display a UI for it later, once this is actually installed.

crude inlet
#

all of this to connect to wifi...

#

heh

#

no it won't display a ui

timid tulip
#

So basically haos is not for me then.

#

Fair enough.

crude inlet
#

you have countless ui in the form of any other device with a web browser

timid tulip
#

Not where this is going

crude inlet
#

It's headless, so using it as a dashboard+hub won't work. But you could choose the container install option instead

#

Wifi is fine for the clients. Not great for the server itself once you get many iot devices going

drowsy wyvern
round fiber
#

Does anyone know how to completely remove Z-Wave JS?

grand pivot
#

Please stop crossposting

placid sage
placid sage
placid sage
#

I increased the session amd execition time to 24 hours, without success.

teal plover
#

Just upgraded to '2024.9.1', but now HA doesn't boot up. Just seeing 'A start job is running for File System Check on /dev/disk/by-label/hassos-data (1min 1s /no limit) in the logs, but the whole VM gets stuck

#

I'm guessing some file system got corrupted? I've tried shutdown and restart, but still hangs. What can I do?

teal plover
#

Restored, good job I had backup. šŸ˜…

hushed pollen
#

Hi guys and girls, I'm trying to setup a fresh virtualbox VM with the 13.1 vdi from home-assistant.io.

But when I come to "onboarding" creating a user it just wont go past. When i klick on "Create account" it does nothing, no error message ( on the webpage ) but also does nothing.

Anyone have any IdƩ why?

proven grove
hushed pollen
#

Yupp that was the issue, thank you,

mellow jackal
#

Hello. I am installing a Hassos through Ubuntu on a new system. After I have installed everything, Hass has problems to launch as it cannot connect to the internet (even though it is connected to the LAN and can be accessed throug the local network)

sage kestrel
sage kestrel
harsh cargo
#

Hi all. Im runnin a HA in docker and running watchtower to update the images. But the two times it have updated the image all my settings and users have been lost. This do not happen to other images that im running. I know i can skip HA being updated by watchtower, but even when i pulled the latest image my self it happened. Is there any changes in the location of the configfiles between the updates?

storm sluice
#

did you mount something to /config in the container? otherwise all the config will be saved inside the containers filesystem and will be gone when it is deleted/recreated

harsh cargo
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No i did not do that. Will have a look into this and set it up from scracth again

proven grove
sage kestrel
gilded granite
#

How do you guys expose haos webui to cloudflare domain? Any built in way?

fallen lichen
#

As in... you're looking to expose externally?

#

There's a bunch of options with addons... Nginx Proxy Manager or Cloudflared are common. Any other reverse proxy will do as well.

gilded granite
#

Yes exactly. Thanks for the information

#

Would let's encrypt work?

#

Or do I need something additional?

visual rune
#

I wish there was someone in Orlando that could show me how this HA works . Hubby wants to send it back cause Alexa can do the same (that's what he said).

fallen lichen
#

Let's Encrypt will generate a cert for you to use. So, you could switch HA to just use that, too.

errant jasper
half mantle
crude inlet
half mantle
#

i just figured out HACS is somethign i need to install and have done so

#

HACS requests i reboot the hardware but i dont see that in those instructions either

crude inlet
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The steps for setting up HACs are separate.

#

Do whatever it says, then when you have it, continue to the custom integration instructions

half mantle
#

Yeah i've installed this emporia vue integration and restarted again but i dont seem to see it

#

ah found relevant click disregard

#

Question, i flashed homeassistant to a raspberry pi 2 via a 64gb sd card.

If i pull the sd card and stick it in into a intel i7 NUC will things generally work?

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(how much does HA care about its hardware? i guess the rpi has no other disk)?

nova flame
#

assuming this is talking about haos? raspberry pi and intel are completely different hardware platforms and cpu architectures, it won't work at all.

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you can install haos on the intel nuc, then take a backup from the raspberry pi and restore it on the nuc. that will work fine.

half mantle
#

cool thanks, overall this system seems quite well put together. thanks everyone

wind ice
#

how hard is it to migrate my current PI instance onto a VM on a PC? want to move it over to something with a little more juice and stability.

empty bloom
#

that depends on your level of technical ability

#

try creating the VM and installing HA without migrating over

#

if you can't do that, then you'll likely have issues restoring a backup from a pi

wind ice
#

i feel like i shouldn't have a problem...im gonna try to use the vmware solution since im more familiary with vmware

#

is there a downside to running it on a VM?

empty bloom
#

I haven't ran that way, but I don't think there's many drawbacks.

#

I've heard of issues with virtualbox

violet niche
#

to migrate from 32bit haos to 64bit haos on a RPi 4, if i copy the config directory from old to new is that all that is needed ? the current 32bit RPi 4 is fully updated, running zwave and zigbee.

tender wren
#

Create a backup, download it and restore that on the new host.

violet niche
#

ok, thanks

#

if there are 32 bit addons/integrations, will they get migrated to 64bit once the restore and reboot happens?

#

also... a full backup, or just a backup of home assistant?

rose valve
#

I migrated from arm to x86 some while ago and it worked fine

#

Make a full backup

tender wren
#

As long as the add-on is available for that architecture, it should be fine

dire horizon
#

Hello. I have the issue that home assistant is constantly rebooting. Not the host but home assistant itself.
Its since this evening and i made no changes other then rebooting the host(that did not happen for a long long time)
How can i debug why this is happening? It stays up for like 1 min max before rebooting.

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Its a mini pc with a n100 cpu that runs HAOS, without any virtual stuff.

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It started happening when our vodafone ISP bridge device was rebooted.

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Which im having issues with right now...no internet. But even if off/no internet, home assistant shouldnt reboot all the time because of this? šŸ« 

#

As you can see the drama started quite suddenly

rose valve
#

Is there maybe a custom integration which breaks without an internet connection and crashes?

dire horizon
#

Is there a way to check in a log what causes this?

dire horizon
#

I disabled the things i think could maybe cause this but no luck

#

Well i cant anymore im exhausted, hope tommorow someone can help, i have no idea what more i can try. I shut down the machine now. No lights in the dark this evening for toilet runs etc

rose valve
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Do you have an current backup?

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If yes I would try a new install and load a backup

dire horizon
#

Maybe...but i bet theres a lot more to do then just restore that backup

#

First get internet back. Meanwhile i hope theres also something logged where i can see why haos is rebooting itself?

#

I notice cpu is also quite occupied, even though i disabled frigate the biggest hog of resources

#

Would appriciate any help to figure why its doing this

dire horizon
#

I just tried it, it gives a supervisor error that i dont have a internet connection, not allowed to continue with a restore. Why the heck does it want a internet connection to restore a backup?

#

I cant think of any freaking reason

rose valve
#

Maybe to download the add ons from their repositories

tender wren
dire horizon
#

Bah, well then no restore for me.

dire horizon
#

I booted to safe mode though, where its not rebooting all the time.

#

Isnt there a way to find out what causes this constant rebooting?

humble mirage
#

Safe mode disables the custom integrations, so sounds like it's one of those

dire horizon
#

custom integrations are always hacs installations?

humble mirage
#

Well, no

#

All HACS things are custom

#

Not all custom things are in HACS

#

HACS is just a downloader, anything it does you can do without it

dire horizon
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yeah ok. i know when looking at those github pages that hacs uses as repo's, that all those custom integrations also offer manual downloads. i never used those manual methods. are there besides that, other ways thats considered a custom integration?

humble mirage
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Anything in custom_components/

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Cards live elsewhere, under www/

#

Themes could be almost anywhere

dire horizon
#

thanks.

stuck light
#

Hello smart internet strangers. After a string of motorbike robberies in my area lately Iā€™ve been semi-urgently tasked with an alarm, and maybe cctv in the future. Iā€™ve had to stop them from paying for a cloud service such as ring. I already have a pi4 8gb and Iā€™m brand new to home assistant, can I please have some insight on this potential setup? Cheers!

Keypad: ring v2
zwave stick: zooz 800
SSD: crucial bx500 for running HA
Motion sensor: ring motion detector v2
alarm: generic 12v alarm, will use the ring keypad to begin with

#

.
The alarm likely isnā€™t going to be the final one, just canā€™t find any alarms that work with zwave without breaking the bank.

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This is going to be using alarmo in order to handle dis/arming

proven grove
#

That setup seems alright to start out with.

stuck light
#

Is there any reason HAOS could be a bad idea as opposed to running piOS w/ HA docker?

proven grove
stuck light
#

Good to know, thanks!

raven forge
#

In my opinion HAOS is not as reliable as more common OSs like RPI OS (debian). Sometimes a OS upgrade makes it unbootable on certain hardware for example. I think this mostly applies to x86 though. Note that HAOS is not a "normal" OS. You don't have the freedom to install whatever you want outside of addons. If you're happy with HAOS' ecosystem and the "apps" (addons) it provides HAOS is much more comfortable. It's also the most used installation method so you should get the best support. I always assume HAOS unless otherwise stated. Others probably do the same.

plain grail
#

I've installed the home assistant docker container on fedora using the docker compose file.

#

I'm not able to access home assistant via ipaddress/8123

#

I tried opening the 8123 tcp port in the firewall but that didn't help as well...

#

I have network_mode:host

#

Any ideas on what I can do to solve this?

#

Thanks

raven forge
#

Do you use docker or podman? Can you share your compose file? Also check ss -lntp | grep 8123. You could also try to stop the firewall completely. At least temporarily.

plain grail
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ss -lntp | grep 8123 does nothing

raven forge
#

Not a good sign. What do the docker logs say?

plain grail
raven forge
#

Seems fairly normal but it also looks like it restarts immediately. Can you follow the logs and check if it does that? docker ps might also show its uptime.

violet niche
plain grail
#

Yes it does look like it restarts immediately.....

raven forge
#

What hardware is this running on?

plain grail
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My old laptop

raven forge
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I'm asking because I've seen a similar thing where JEMALLOC fixed it but that was on a pi.

plain grail
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intel i7

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Oh ok

raven forge
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I'd try a different moint point. Perhaps ./config:/config.

plain grail
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ok I'll try

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Thanks

raven forge
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It's also possible that fedora has restrictions against privileged or something but the official docker package should handle that. You could check journalctl for anything interesting.

plain grail
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how do I open port 8123. I think I'm doing it wrong....

raven forge
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Not sure on fedora but even if it's closed it should show up on ss.

plain grail
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oh ok

plain grail
raven forge
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Might be a fedora thingy then. Did you install docker via their docs or directly from dnf?
Without host mode you miss certain things.

plain grail
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I installed it using the guide on the home assistant website.

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What do I miss out on?

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without the host mode?

raven forge
plain grail
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Yep

raven forge
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Then my only suggestion is checking journalctl.

humble mirage
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I've only seen the problem if you install Docker Desktop by mistake

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Docker Desktop is VM based weirdness

plain grail
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I'm using Docker Desktop.....

humble mirage
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There's the problem

plain grail
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But I used the command docker compose up -d to set up the container

raven forge
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That is not what I linked to.

humble mirage
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You MUST USE DOCKER ENGINE

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Docker Desktop won't work

plain grail
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Oh ok I see.
I'll uninstall it then.

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I'm a little bit of a noob so I installed it because the gui helps.

humble mirage
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I've submitted a PR to add a warning to the install docs

raven forge
violet niche
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so i did the migration from 32bit to 64 bit, installing 64bit on a 'new' sd card for the RPi, and then was given the choice to treat it as a like new instance, or to restore a backup from previous. I chose to restore a backup, and after restoring from backup, and reinstalling the matter addon, all is good!

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As a side note, i had also been using mariadb on the original, and just let the new one create a new db using sqllite, and now the 64bit version is all good. I really wasnt using the history much on it, so simplifying is good!

crystal spire
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I have a problem with my home assistant, it is running on a pi 4B and I am unable to connect to home assistant aka :8123 website but all of my addons are working
the version is I think 2024.8.3 but I am not sure
it was working fine for more than a year before this
in the morning everything was working ok
later in the day I want to check the outside temp and it is just broken

humble mirage
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Can you connect a keyboard and monitor?

crystal spire
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I am going to get the pi out of the thing I have it in

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Got it

crystal spire
humble mirage
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core logs will help, hopefully

crystal spire
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That's a lot of red

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Is there a way for me to export it?

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I have the home assistant nas addon and it is working

humble mirage
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The log can also be found in the config folder

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crystal spire
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homeassistant.log?

humble mirage
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That's the one

crystal spire
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that was last modified like 12 hours ago

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but ok

humble mirage
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May be worth trying a host reboot to reboot the computer

crystal spire
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it failed

humble mirage
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And?

crystal spire
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it may be rebooting

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well

humble mirage
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Did it give you an error or other message?

crystal spire
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I am just impatient

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it rebooted

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but

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Post "http://supervisor/host/reboot": context deadline exceeded (Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)

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still nothing on :8123

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I am going to make a backup

crystal spire
crystal spire
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I have updated the core and ran core start to try to force start it and it worked

candid terrace
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I'm running home assistant as a docker container and I'm wanting to install a service which needs something called "mqqt", I'm assuming this needs to be a new docker container?

grand pivot
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MQTT, and yes

plain grail
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I'm gettting this error when running the command docker compose up -d:
Cannot connect to the Docker daemon at unix:///home/fedora/.docker/desktop/docker.sock. Is the docker daemon running?
How do I solve it?
Running sudo dockerd doesn't seem to help.

humble mirage
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Is Docker running?

knotty anchor
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Hello, I am new to HA and am just trying to test out the capabilities of a couple z-wave switches I purchased. I flashed HAOS to a brand new sdcard and am running on a Pi 3B+ (it is old but was never used and was new in box). I initially had HA running but had issues with the add-on store, so I reflashed and started over which worked. Now however, HA crashed and won't start up. am getting lots of extra logs while tailing including lots of "Bluetooth: ... Unabled to disable scanning" and "mmc0: timeout waiting for hardware interrupt", amongst other things. HAOS looks to be periodically restarting itself.

I can try reflash again but could this be caused due to the underpowered hardware? I am bit discouraged as HA seems to be considered the best way to coordinate devices in home but this has hardly been a seamless experience. I don't mind buying a Pi 5 but I really jsut wanted to test out a couple switches before deciding if I was going to move forward with them.

Thanks for any help šŸ™

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mmc0: timeout waiting for hardware interrupt
``` that sounds bad - a power problem or failing SD card
indigo wedge
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Hi guys, I'm using HAOS inside proxmox and since the last core & some other addons update, I ran into a problem where I'm not able to open HA web anymore (infinite loading data...).

I saw this stacktrace in the log:
KeyError: 'recorder_instance'
2024-09-11 22:08:34.513 ERROR (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.websocket_api.http.connection] [140054077455040] Error handling message: Unknown error (unknown_error) Boom from xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx (Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10_15_7) AppleWebKit/537.36 (KHTML, like Gecko) Chrome/128.0.0.0 Safari/537.36)
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/websocket_api/connection.py", line 227, in async_handle
handler(self.hass, self, msg)
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/recorder/basic_websocket_api.py", line 31, in ws_info
if instance := get_instance(hass):
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/helpers/recorder.py", line 76, in get_instance
return hass.data[DATA_INSTANCE]
~~~~~~~~~^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Any ideas on how to fix this? Unfortunately, I was stupid enough to forget to create a complete backup of the VM & in HA itself

mild depot
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Hi 2 All.

I have a linux with docker. I tried to use container, but without addons it useless. I'm going to install HA on linux. If I won't like it, is it possible to uninstall it without problem?

raven forge
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without addons it useless
Addons are just docker containers. Create them yourself.
You can't really uninstall an OS. At least that's not how I would describe it. Maybe you can virtualize HAOS instead?

mild depot
raven forge
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Depends on the addon.

strange shore
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Hello everyone, I have installed HA brand new on the Intel NUC, I can not access HA the Core info shows the following, can you please help me

2024-09-11 22:58:45.979 ERROR (MainThread) [root1 Uncaught exception Traceback (most recent call last): File "<frozen runpy>", line 198, in _run_module_as_main File "<frozen runpy>", line 88, in _run_code File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/main.py", line 223, in <module> sys.exit(main()) AAAAAA File "/usr/src/honeassistant/honeassistant/main.py", line 209, in main exit_code = runmer.run(runtime_conf) File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/runner.py", line 189, in run return loop.run_until complete(setup and run hass(runtine config)) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.12/asyncio/base_events.py", line 687, in run_until_complete return future.result() File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/runner.py", line 157, in setup_and_run_hass hass = await bootstrap.async_setup_hass(runtine_config) File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/bootstrap.py", line 311, in async_setup hass await hass.async_add_executor_job(conf_util.process_ha_config_upgrade, hass) File "/usr/local/lib/python3.12/concurrent/futures/thread.py", line 58, in run result = self.fn(self.args, self.kuargs) File "/usr/src/homeassistant/honeassistant/config.py", line 549, in process ha cont if version_obj < AuesoneVersion("0.50"): A File "/usr/local/lib/python3.12/site-packages/awesomeversion/awesoneversion.py in raise AwesomeVersionCompareException( awesoneversion.exceptions.AvesomeVersionCompareException: Can't compare (unknoun [20:58:46] INFO: Home Assistant Core finish process exit code [20:58:46] INFO: Home Assistant Core service shutdown s6-rc: info: service legacy-services: stopping s6-rc: info: service legacy-services successfully stopped s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init: stopping s6-rc: info: service legacy-cont-init successfully stopped info: service fix-attrs: stopping info: service fix-attrs successfully...

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Guess awesome version

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dry saffron
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Not in a hypervisor partition (HVP=0) (VERR_NEM_NOT_AVAILABLE).

humble mirage
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What VM platform?

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What hardware?

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What HAOS image?

dry saffron
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VirtualBox

dry saffron
humble mirage
humble mirage
dry saffron
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VB 7.1.0 for windows

humble mirage
dry saffron
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SVM AMD was not active

mild depot
humble mirage
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First hit when you Google code server docker

raven forge
strange shore
humble mirage
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Assuming your problem is the same, since you replied to a message of mine to somebody other than you

strange shore
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Hyper x disable is the solution?

humble mirage
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Did you notice that you replied to a message that wasn't for you?

strange shore
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Now I've noticed, sorry for the inconvenience

humble mirage
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You need to do as you were asked and share that log on a code share site so that we can read it

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What you posted was a stream of text that was impossible to understand

bright hill
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HAOS in a virtual machine on windows 11, is vm virtualbox the best software to use or do your recommend something else?

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Unfortunately i can't use the sonoff zigbee dongle on linux so i must use windows

proven grove
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bright hill
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Idk, every time i try to do something with the usb dongle connected, haos freezes... i just bricked the os again just trying to update it (after setting every zigbee devices using windows because otherwise haos freezer during setup)

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And i'm tired of rebooting every time and doing manual backups everytime i do something zigbee related.

proven grove
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Huh, thatā€™s odd. Iā€™ve not seen really any issues with people using the sonoff dongle in Linux with proxmox or anything.

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Running HAOS bare metal? Or in a container?

bright hill
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I want to have a movie server with my haos server (plus other things).. should i try with docker?

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I was finally able to update haos after disconnecting the dongle but it bricked again and won't connect anymore! P.s. i tried several linux distros, 2 pc's and it frezes every time

proven grove
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Especially for a media server if youā€™re going to want to transcode and stream 4k streams. Giving that a dedicated CPU/GPU makes a huge difference in quality (again, IMHO).

bright hill
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Thanks, unfortunately i think it's far too complicated and expensive for an hobby... i'll try with windows and if it won't work as i want (not crashing everytime i try to do something), i'll just keep the dedicated pc as a nas only, fortunately i only bought a temperature sensor and this dongle

proven grove
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ā€œOh! Let me write this automation real quick!ā€ā€¦ 4 hours and 6 automations laterā€¦ šŸ¤£

bright hill
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This is what i wanted to do too šŸ˜‚ big home automation project and a small file server for my movies etc...

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But it's far too complicated to even configure a dongle (yes, i spent days trying to fix, trying to configure, trying different linux distros... ) and the only way i found is using an os i don't want to use šŸ˜‚

proven grove
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So, I solved that by not using a dongle. The only dongle I have is for my zwave stuff (a whopping 6 devices). lol

bright hill
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I'm trying to update it using windows... let's see if it still works

shy oasis
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hi guys, quick question for a fresh install. I am using docker for my whole server, and used HA's container to manage everything at home. From what I understand, the container doesnt support addons and I will need either HAOS or Supervised install to install addons ?

proven grove
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That's correct. However, most addons are simply docker containers with some HA "magic" to get them to interact with HAOS.

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You can usually find any addon as a docker container that you could just setup in a compose file alongside HA. You won't get the sidebar/ingress stuff though.

shy oasis
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gotcha, and there is no container install of HA that I can run to get addons ? Also, what's more advised between HAOS and Supervised ?

shy oasis
proven grove
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Supervised is NEVER advised. Ever.

tender wren
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No... not even then

proven grove
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-# (but you could run supervised to get addons)

shy oasis
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jk

proven grove
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But don't. It's not worth it. It's a nightmare to manage and prone to breaking often.

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lol

shy oasis
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Ok I will install HAOS directly on my VM

tender wren
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Supervised is highly probable to cause problems

proven grove
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If you really need addons, run HAOS in a VM.

shy oasis
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gotcha

proven grove
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TBF, I've never needed any addons that I couldn't run as containers.

shy oasis
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Wanted to install this one and it didn't mention container so i didn't even know it was an option

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but i will look up how to get them on my docker compose

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if that can prevent me from creating a new vm for HA, I will gladly do it

proven grove
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Oh, yeah, it gives instructions for docker compose as well. Easy peasy.

shy oasis
proven grove
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lol I've been doing this a while šŸ˜‰

bright hill
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After... idk... 20 minutes haos core is still updating on windows (and still responsive).. i'm tired of waiting, i'll just reboot the vm once again, best case scenario i'll stay on an older core update, worst case i'll need to reinstall haos from scratch once again

pale coyote
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Hi !

I have an HA backup that I'm trying to import into my docker container. I understand that I can't import it directly as if I had a VM.

but I'm trying to take all the data content of my backup and put it in my container's config, but it always brings me back to the first configuration page

Thanks šŸ™‚

bright hill
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Yeah, it started on the older version and the browser won't connect to haos... again don't think i'll try again

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Sorry for bothering with my troubles! Unfortunately automation is not something for me and, after weeks of planning, installing and troubleshooting, i can't bear it anymore.

humble mirage
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Your install is cursed. Have you considered an exorcism?

grand pivot
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I think I read that Spook can perform exorcisms

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but since it's literally a ghost, I don't know if I believe it

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a little sus, as the kids say

shy oasis
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and i think i didn't run the container

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or maybe i did but without addons

true gorge
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Hi, I was trying to install HA on a raspberry pi 4. I downloaded HA on a sd card via Raspberry PI Imager. Then I put it in the Pi and gave the Pi power and I plugged it in the wifi router. After that I tried to get to the homeassistant.local:8123 but the website doesn't open. I also tried to get there via the IP adress, but that also didn't work. I also tried to download the software again on the sd card, that also didn't work. I have looked at the code on a monitor, but nothing I tried worked. I there anyone who might know what I can do to fix this?

raven forge
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What does the monitor show? Please also check ha network info.

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true gorge
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the last link shows: supervisor: connected, supported: supported and healthy: healthy

raven forge
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Don't explain, show.

true gorge
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I can't find how to send a picture here

raven forge
true gorge
raven forge
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That's not really what I asked for but at least it tells me you can reach the observer URL so I can exclude some network issues.

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Check ha core logs and ha supervisor logs.

true gorge
raven forge
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Why censor a local ipv4 address?

true gorge
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i don't know I have not alot of knowledge about this so just in case so I don't share any too private information, sorry

raven forge
true gorge
raven forge
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Into the CLI via keyboard, yes. It might tell us why core (HA itself) is not reachable. The supervisor might tell us a little bit too.

true gorge
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I don't have a key boardšŸ¤¦ā€ā™€ļø

raven forge
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Do you only have a laptop?

true gorge
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yes, I put the pi on the tv. I do have a keyboard but it is bluetooth

raven forge
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I'm not sure how else to run commands to troubleshoot then. Some devices can be administered with a USB serial cable but not sure about the pi 4. All I can suggest is to give it some more time and perhaps reboot if it's still not reachable after an hour. Maybe it comes up.

true gorge
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okay thank you for the help. I will try again tomorrow and if it doesn't work then I will ask a friend to take a keyboard and then I will try later. thanks again

raven forge
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No problem. Feel free to ping me if you have news. I wish I could tell you a better option.

true gorge
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will do!

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i take my words back, I found a keyboardšŸ˜…

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that is the information I get when I typ core logs and supervisor logs

raven forge
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Hmm. I would have expected more output for the core logs. You can try ha core rebuild and then ha core restart.

true gorge
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It works!! thank youu!!

primal wadi
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Can someone help me to use my esp with multi ssid? I donā€™t het it working

humble mirage
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ESPHome? Tasmota? Something else?

primal wadi
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Esphome

Wifi:
Networks:
Ssid: ā€žxxxyā€œ
Password: ā€žxxxā€œ

    Ssid: ā€žxxxā€œ
    Password: ā€žxxxxā€œ
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humble mirage
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Wrong server ā˜ļø

primal wadi
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Thx

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hi, i have a Pi4 with HAOS and Zigbee2mqtt with Sonof E dongle, but the pi4 goes down very often with peaks on temp, memory, proc load each time they go up it is rebooting

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i can show the graphs here if needed

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i am wondering what can create these issues or how i can debug that

humble mirage
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What Pi4 model? What add-ons? Does this happen when you do something (eg build an ESPHome image), or at the same time, or ...?

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Pi4B 2Gb

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It happens even when i don't use it

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can i show some graphs here ? i don't find how to paste them

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recents reboot : 8:36, 10:52, 11:21, 11:37: 11:53

proven grove
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Youā€™re running HA, Z2M and probably some other addons on a rPi with 2GB ram? Thatā€™s most likely the issue. The minimum just for HA is 2GB and IIRC, Z2M is 1GB.

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could be, but the crrashes occurs with memory load reaching around 1200MB , 66% occupation, but yes each crash occurs when memory load reach this peak

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Yup. Youā€™re running out of resources. Memory initialisation thatā€™s reported is only part of whatā€™s being used. Linux tries to keep as many things as possible in memory. With only 2GB available, thereā€™s barely enough for HA itself. Addons will consume more memory on top of that.

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and at same time there is a peak on proc temp (45 to 55Ā°C) and proc load 40%

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ok ok, i think u put the finger on the right place šŸ‘

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That tracks. As the Pi is trying to clear up resources, the processor will have to do more work. More work = more heat generated.

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so my idea to move HA to a VM on a windows desktop and keeping only the MQTT broker on that Pi4 could be a good solution ?

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I wouldnā€™t run it on windows, but if thatā€™s what you have available, then yes.

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yes, i have a desktop running 24h and available capacity so easy to do on that PC, i will just need a link to a tuto explaing how to install Ha on such VM and having MQTT on a separate Pi4, have you some link to advise ?

proven grove
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MQTT can be just a docker container or a bare metal install on raspbian.

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ok, i will try to find that for MQTT, and for tghe migration i can just restore a HAOS backup on the windows one ? But my VM can also be a Linux one, even on a windows host....

proven grove
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Yup. You can use HAOS in a VM on windows, but you might have issues. Some people do, some people donā€™t. We usually recommend proxmox for a host. But again, if you donā€™t have an available machine for it, then use what you have for now.

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And yeah, just restore a backup and youā€™re fine.

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hmmm, maybe is should buy a new pi4 with 4gb...... to be secure...

proven grove
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Not a bad idea. Your setup would probably be fine with more ram. But, if youā€™re going to spend the money on a new rPi, look into getting a mini-pc instead. They are usually just a bit more expensive and have way better stats than a rPi does.

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mini-pc with proxmox ? or HAOS directly ?

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Proxmox is the way to go. SOOO many benefits.

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ahhh i didn't knew.... ok will check all that

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ok for now i will try to move my HA to a HAOS VM on a windows desktop as said above, but i am sturggling to understand what / how i should install the sonoff dongle on the Pi4, already installed in the HAOS on this Pi4, but how to keep it alone and make the link with a remote HAOS ? which tutorial can i use ? i did many research and can't find that

humble mirage
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Move it to the VM

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ah not possible, the windows desktop is installed outside the house so i must keep the dongle inside

humble mirage
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Ah...

proven grove
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Docs/tutorials are available for MQTT and Z2M on their websites.

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Then, once you have all that done, set up the MQTT integration in HA to point to the IP address of the rPi.

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thanks for help, sorry but i really need good starting points , but i will do ! šŸ˜€

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but as when i will have moved my HAOS to the desktop, i will have to remove the current Z2M integration from it and then install it on the PI and make the connection.... but will i be able to get back all previous stats for all current Z2M entities....

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# analog badge but as when i will have moved my HAOS to the desktop, i will have to remove the ...

Yes. Before you remove the add on, copy the configuration files (or extract them from your back up). When you set up Z2M on the pi, put those files in the configuration directory BEFORE you start the container. All your devices and such will be there. You will probably need to edit the port mapping to your dongle. When you get to that part, ping me and I can walk you through how to set it up.

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oh, thanks again, i will surely šŸ˜‰

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conf files is only the yaml for Z2M ? automation.yaml too ?

proven grove
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and can i restore and start first my new HAOS on a VM before installing Z2M on the Pi ?

proven grove
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But if you have other, non-zigbee integrations, those should all work fine.

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ok and i can delete the z2m on this new HA and then start installing Z2M on the pi

proven grove
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lol

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ok i have them in a notepad

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but time for lunch here then will start all that !

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HA full backup in progress and done...

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starting the new HA on virtualbox

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restoring HA backup in the new HA

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ok, done, HA is ok on the new VM, now i can start installing MQTT on the Pi

proven grove
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up to now was quite easy šŸ˜€

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now some linux things and here it comes more difficult for me šŸ˜…

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writing of Pi image on the SD card seems very slow...

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34%

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50%

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could it be a sign that this SD card has issues ?

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80%

proven grove
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Possibly.

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almost 12 mins to write it, validation now

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quite ready to install MQTT

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doing the apt upgrade

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installing mosquitto broker now

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It was my recommendation to put Z2M and MQTT on the same machine (a rPi with 2GB RAM) because they can't put the coordinator on the machine they are installing HAOS on (Windows VM in a different location).

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pi memory looks not enough and windows is in another building

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so now MQTT is installed on the pi or almost

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i did mosquitto -v for the version test

raven forge
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That's where ethernet coordinators shine. Assuming that other location is nearby, of course.

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50meters from here same LAN

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ready to start configuring z2m i think

proven grove
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Did you setup docker yet on the rpi?

raven forge
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ehhh just checked back and no, i installed mqtt native !

proven grove
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Native is fine. I honestly had no idea that they posted blended instructions on the Z2M site. Well done to them for that!

raven forge
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Mosquitto is fine to run "native", I guess, but Z2M in a docker container is much simpler to manage. As in update and roll back and such.

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but Z2M its not installed yet, only MQTT

proven grove
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Z2M docker is SUPER easy.

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so i go docker for Z2M ?

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@analog badge follow the docker install directions.

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Yes.

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(Actually this reminded me to go in and docker pull my Z2M lol)

humble mirage
proven grove
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Yeah, I got all that... I just haven't pulled a new version in a while.

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docker is installed

proven grove
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I keep meaning to watchdog it, but with how critical Z2M is, I don't like to let it auto-update.

humble mirage
raven forge
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You can subscribe to the github release notifications and use something like diun to get notifications when a new docker image is released.
I usually update my containers manually every once in a while when there's something interesting or I have too much time on my hands.

proven grove
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I just went to 1.40.1... living on the edge!

humble mirage
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I don't auto update anything

proven grove
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lol

humble mirage
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Recently two Docker images have had breaking changes that auto updates would have totally messed up

humble mirage
proven grove
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I have not. Great... weekend work... thanks Tinkerer šŸ˜‰

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ok, what should i do now, i guess i should open docker to work in it ?

humble mirage
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Well, no

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Now you start the container

proven grove
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Well, create the compose file first, move your config files to the mount point and then start the container and look for errors.

raven forge
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Basically just follow this: https://www.zigbee2mqtt.io/guide/getting-started/#_2-setup-and-start-zigbee2mqtt
If you can read it, that is. They have messed up something with the theme. Switch to dark mode at the top right. Left of the search.
I recommend leaving the -d (detached/background) off for the first start and until everything works so you can immediately follow the logs. Use CTRL+C to stop/quit.

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trying first to find my dongle with dmesg command but impossible to see it

raven forge
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Run dmesg -Tw, then plug it in. Also check lsusb -vt once plugged in.
Which dongle is is?

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ok ttyACM0

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Sonoff Dongle E

raven forge
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Not the path I'd expect. Does ls -l /dev/serial/by-id/ show anything?

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cdc_acm 1-1.1:1.0: ttyACM0: USB ACM device

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last line

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V

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lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 13 Sep 13 17:01 usb-ITEAD_SONOFF_Zigbee_3.0_USB_Dongle_Plus_V2_20231102142912-if00 -> ../../ttyACM0

humble mirage
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ok ! thanks up to now !

humble mirage
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And use the long path šŸ˜‰

humble scaffoldBOT
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@restive cloud I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

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restive cloud
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Is there anyone who knows how to fix this?

raven forge
vague tusk
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hello šŸ‘‹ , i had HA on a rpi 3B+ for a while now and yesterday HA stopped working completly i was able to ping the ip but i couldnt get an response on the webUI so i restarted it and left it for a while hoping it would fix itself but nothing happened so today i decided to do a fresh install. i followed the guide on HA website that uses rapberry pi imager. i installed ha on the sd card and plugged it in the rpi and waited a bit then on the "http://homeassistant.local:8123" page i got "An error occured while installing Home Assistant, check the logs below for more information." i will paste the logs in, any help is appreciated

raven forge
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I don't see anything useful in log.

vague tusk
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neither could I, only error I found was ā€œ2024-09-13 20:07:10.632 ERROR (MainThread) [supervisor.core] Update '2024.08.0' of Supervisor '2024.09.1' failed!ā€ Which is not really helpful either

valid onyx
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Hi all,
I hope this is the right channel.
After the installation I played with the "Map" menu on the left, and now it's just empty. how can I reset to default?

candid terrace
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I'm using a docker-based install connected to a "host" docker network, (just following the guide) and homeassistant works pretty well, but periodically I need to go in and update the IP addresses of other containers like mosquitto and frigate when they change. I'm guessing my options are either setting manual docker IPs, setting up a full DNS server (pls no), or taking my chances on a bridge network and risking some autodetection may break?

grand pivot
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Just use static reservations for those IPs in your router

candid terrace
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they're virtual IPs created by docker

grand pivot
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I get that. Give them real IPs

candid terrace
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but they're all running on the same hardware, how would my router know how to differentiate them without unique MAC addresses?

grand pivot
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Putting them on the host network gives them the host IP, then just specify the ports

candid terrace
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oh you're saying also put all my other services like mosquitto and frigate also on the host network?

grand pivot
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Yes

candid terrace
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yes I suppose that would be simple. I honestly have no idea why sometimes we use bridge networks, sometimes host

grand pivot
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You should also just be able to use the container name if you don't want to do that

candid terrace
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any idea if ubiquiti routers allow static reservations?

grand pivot
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Docker should resolve the names for you

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All routers do

candid terrace
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yeah but container name only works if the containers are all on the same network

grand pivot
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They're on the same docker network, right?

candid terrace
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now

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no

grand pivot
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Well, they could be

candid terrace
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homeassistant and esphome are on host, everything else is on the default compose bridge network

raven forge
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Alternatively refer to them through the "host" ip.

candid terrace
raven forge
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Yep.

candid terrace
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i don't understand why that doesn't work sometimes though

grand pivot
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Expose ports for those containers

candid terrace
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For example the docker host is named "mars", and I go to home assistant and try to add Frigate using the url http://mars:5000 and it says "failed to connect"

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but if i lookup the docker IP of 172.18.0.3:5000, that works

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ugh because its not on the host network, right

raven forge
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Depends what name server it uses and whether they are aware of mars. You could check that with docker exec or just use the ip.

candid terrace
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the host IP? i guess I can check whether that would work

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nope

raven forge
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Yep. Don't use docker ips.

candid terrace
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No I'm saying the internal docker IP is the only thing that works

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Both host IP:port or the hostname:port don't work

raven forge
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Run docker exec frigatecontainername cat /etc/resolv.conf
You can also run docker exec frigatecontainername nslookup mars instead.

grand pivot
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Use the host network or specify the ports you want to expose and then just use the host IP

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That's what most people do

candid terrace
grand pivot
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Don't ever use docker IPs directly

candid terrace
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yeah, they're annoying

raven forge
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Please also try my commands. I'm curious.

candid terrace
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candid terrace
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lol that's larger than intended

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I've never really mucked with resolv.conf files, so not sure what I'm looking at

raven forge
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That basically tells the container which DNS servers to use. In this case it's docker's own so it can resolve other container names.

candid terrace
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127.0.0.11?? no idea who that is, must be docker internal dns?

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i'll do anything to avoid running my own DNS server. So i think I'll switch everything over to the "host" network

raven forge
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Okay now the question is what does nslookup mars on the host say?

candid terrace
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er, mars is the host though?

raven forge
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Yes.

candid terrace
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okay lets find out

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Address:        127.0.0.53#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   mars.mydomainname.com
Address: 192.168.1.6
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heyyy i got the code formatting, one things going right for me

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Looks good. The second command here should be able to resolve to the same ip: #installation-archived message
The docker DNS should proxy to the host's IIRC.
Looks like you use systemd-resolved which should work fine with docker.

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OCI runtime exec failed: exec failed: unable to start container process: exec: "nslookup": executable file not found in $PATH: unknown

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does that mean nslookup isn't installed?

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i can try from another container on the same networkj

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Address:        127.0.0.11#53

Name:   mars
Address: 192.168.1.6
Name:   mars
Address: 172.17.0.1
Name:   mars
Address: 172.18.0.1
then a bunch of IPv6....```
raven forge
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Yes it's not installed. I'm mobile so I can't give you tested commands. Looks fine to me šŸ¤·

candid terrace
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i need to do a whole networking class in all of my freetime

raven forge
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This is getting a bit off-topic anyways šŸ˜„

candid terrace
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it's been really informative though, i appreciate it

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help with hacs, i can't access it via the terminal

Try `wget --help' for more options.
āžœ ~ wget -0 - https://get.hacs.xyz | bash -
wget: invalid option -- '0'
Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]...

spare valley
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Hi guys, I am new to Home Assistant world, just got my homeassistant green yesterday and trying to install it today but no luck. Opening the Home Assistant App on my iPhone, it comes up with Welcome screen but when I click on CONTINUE button it's just scanning for Servers and can't find anything, even if I add address manually http://192.168.1.196:8123 still no luck. Please can someone help with this? Thank

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according to github issu this should have been fixed, but for me the error persists.

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Iā€™m in the process of moving my Home Assistant installation from one Docker host to another. I assumed it would be as simple as copying over the /config directory and then starting the Home Assistant container on the new host. However, when I access the web interface on the new host, Iā€™m greeted with the onboarding procedure asking me to set up my Smart Home from scratch.
Iā€™ve gone through this process multiple times and Iā€™m certain that the paths are correctly mapped in my Docker setup. Despite this, it seems like Home Assistant is not recognizing the existing configuration.
Iā€™m quite lost on how to successfully move my installation to the new Docker host. Any help or guidance would be greatly appreciated!

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Interestingly, when I just go thorugh the process of setting up a new home, some devices from the old installation show up, but most are not there

proven grove
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AHHH, I got it!!

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Instead of copying over the config folder from the old docker host, I copied all data from a backup I just created

proven grove
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Huhā€¦ thatā€™s weird because thatā€™s the method I use all the time and I havenā€™t seen the onboarding screen in years. lol

But, you got it fixed. Thatā€™s what matters. šŸ˜Š

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Did the same from the backup...but there it worked

proven grove
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One thing I do is when Iā€™m moving container mounts is to use a bash test to make sure .storage (and other files/dirs as well) exists.

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Could also do that with a compose health check as well.

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yeah, I should probably have been more thorough. But it's still strange that rsyncing from the Backup works and not from the original config dir. I am now thinking the problem was perhaps related to permissions and some things did actually not copy over

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thanks for your quick response!!!

proven grove
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need some help understanding/fixing DNS lookups. My add ons including core are not using the dns server set in HassOS nor in the dns container.

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normally if I run a container on my dev machine and then do DNS lookups in that container it will use the host dns which points to my router which has a DNS server that resolves LAN subdomains.

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so I'm scratching my head how to fix this.

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If I use the terminal and do a dig on HassOS directly it works fine. So the "host" is resolving why not the containers.

# 
    ipv4:
    address:
    - 10.0.0.3/24
    gateway: 10.0.0.1
    method: static
    nameservers:
    - 10.0.0.1
    ready: true
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fallback: true
host: 172.30.32.3
llmnr: true
locals:
- dns://10.0.0.1
mdns: true
servers:
- dns://10.0.0.1
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can't anyone help me with HACS?

novel dagger
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maybe what's your question?

dry saffron
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I can't get it installed

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āžœ ~ wget -0 - https://get.hacs.xyz | bash -
wget: invalid option -- '0'
Usage: wget [OPTION]... [URL]...

Try `wget --help' for more options.

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nothing more

novel dagger
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are you running HassOS?

dry saffron
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No, I need to install it first.

novel dagger
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So you don't have Home Assistant running yet?

dry saffron
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HA is active

novel dagger
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so you must be running either container or core then. If you intend to the get HassOS/supervised intstalled on some dedicated hardware or a VM I'd wait to install hacs. container/core is really only a "partially" functional and doesn't natively support addons which is why you can't use the easy install method.

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HA is installed on a Rasberry

grand pivot
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What does

No, I need to install it first.
Mean as an answer to whether you're running HAOS?

dry saffron
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I want to use it

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at to wget try this wget -O - https://get.hacs.xyz

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it should output the script that will be run by bash | bash -

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It does not work.

grand pivot
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Look, are you running HAOS or not?

dry saffron
grand pivot
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If so, use the addon to install HACS as described in the docs

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Use the addon. That command line is not useful to you

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As has already been said several times, it does not

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okay, but i can't get that addon in the store?

novel dagger
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Well, backing up I'd first succeed at getting HassOs installed. What hardware are you trying to run HassOs on?

dry saffron
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running container/core alone does NOT support addons

grand pivot
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That isn't container or core

dry saffron
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i don't understand them. what do i need?

novel dagger
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I mean to do you have a raspberry pi, are you trying it on some mini computer or did you buy a ready to go solution from HA?

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see link.

dry saffron
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yes i have a ras. pi 4. the ha is installed on an sd card. I installed HA with the rasp pi software

novel dagger
dry saffron
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HA is already running. I want to install HACS now.

dry saffron
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Ok then you do have HassOS running (behind the scenes on the host/rpi). So don't use the wget install follow the addon install.

dry saffron
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there I go to my link?

novel dagger
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click on the link I provided.

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as is says To add the HACS add-on repository to your Home Assistant, select this my link.

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btw you have to have a github account to use HACS.

dry saffron
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i don't understand it. i added it, i started it. I don't see it in integrations

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i have github acc.

novel dagger
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so you already linked HACS to your github account

dry saffron
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no

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I have to add it to integrations first

novel dagger
dry saffron
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is there a german chennel or discord where communication is easier?

novel dagger
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including restarting? there are 4 bullets.

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can you read the english instructions ok?

dry saffron
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i work with translator

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it's the understanding that i'm missing. i just don't understand the logic to follow the steps

novel dagger
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sorry no Sprechen Sie Deutsch :(.

dry saffron
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i have no problem translating this for myself, but i don't really understand the instructions

novel dagger
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you need to search or ask for someone to help you in German. There are lots of folks who use home assistant from germany.

dry saffron
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So the addon is displayed in the menu - Addons

novel dagger
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good luck!

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be sure to reboot first.

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see bullet #3 on that page.

dry saffron
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the problem is that it cannot be found there