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long wyvern
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Sweet. My entire HomeAssistant system seems to be back to the state it was before the outage. Including logger and history.

flint glacier
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I’ve now encountered errors trying to set up HAOS on a RPi 5, RPi4, and most recently a Green.

Received the Green a few days ago, connected to Ethernet, and was able to access it via http://homeassistant.local:8123 1 but installation encountered errors (log below).

Troubleshooting:

Restarted the green and was unable to connect
Tried performing a factory reset per the instruction guide and I get stuck per the images in the link above
set a static IP for it via my router
forwarded port 8123- Removed this per one of the mods suggestion.
set my DNS to use google instead of the net gear router default
Set the static IP to utilize DMZ - removed this per one of the mods suggestion.
Multiple router reboots
I still encounter the same error as in the link above.

Tried removing the SD card used to attempt a factory reset and was able to connect via http://homeassistant.local:8123 1 again but still encounter installation errors.
Updated log file in the link above. Any suggestions for how to proceed?

raven forge
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If you plug its ethernet cable into your PC or laptop, do you get internet access?

placid sage
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Hi, I can not start the addons a nm the backup config: Logger: homeassistant.components.hassio.handler
Quelle: components/hassio/handler.py:615
Integration: Home Assistant Supervisor (Dokumentation, Probleme)
Erstmals aufgetreten: 21. Juni 2024 um 10:52:02 (64372 Vorkommnisse)
Zuletzt protokolliert: 11:42:45

Timeout on /backups request
Timeout on /supervisor/info request
Timeout on /core/info request
Timeout on /os/info request
Timeout on /info request

Hope anyone can help me

tender wren
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Try to repair the Supervisor in a terminal with the command ha supervisor repair

placid sage
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Thats the solution. Thank you very much

rich mantle
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Well, finally got a hub. after a few days, no crash. And I have the feeling that HA OS is much faster now vs without a hub.

quaint arrow
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Curious if I should create a seperate Vlan for Homeassistant? Keep everything on its on Vlan?

proven grove
quaint arrow
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i do but not sure if worth doing?

brazen herald
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It's not

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HA is local by design, it needs to talk to other devices on your network that you want to connect it to, so separating it out wouldn't be beneficial there

quaint arrow
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Thank you

flint glacier
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Any idea why I’m getting: “haos-flash[3271: curl: (6) Could not resolve host: version.home-assistant. io”?

raven forge
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Without more information I can only suggest DNS issues.

hardy ravine
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Hey, just installed HA in a virtual box vm. Works fine up until onboarding where I'm getting a 500 on the create user step. Any ideas?

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Object { error: "Response error: 500", status_code: 500, body: "500 Internal Server Error\n\nServer got itself in trouble" }
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body: "500 Internal Server Error\n\nServer got itself in trouble"
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error: "Response error: 500"
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status_code: 500
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<prototype>: Object { … }
onboarding-create-user.ts:194:14
    value onboarding-create-user.ts:194
    handleEvent lit-html.ts:2018
flint glacier
raven forge
flint glacier
idle marlin
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Hi,
I am running HAOS x64 on HP-thinclient 720
I am unable to update Home Assistant Core.
This is what I get after clicking install.
failed to call service update/install. Error updating Home Assistant Core The name is not activatable.

raven forge
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Please share the whole log

humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

idle marlin
zinc spindle
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Unable to bootup my raspberry pi 5

river light
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Hey all, I am migrating my HA to another machine and was wondering if once I restore the backup of the old to the new, if it makes sense to assign the same IP internally as it had before? Just trying to ensure I don't have any issues with any wifi deices or whatever once I move over completely.

raven forge
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It's probably what I'd do as well.

stiff hamlet
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Scam link

tender wren
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Yeah. Mods are pinged, will be gone soon

stiff hamlet
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I pinged them also, looks like he blasted it in every channel

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Hey @tender wren, you familiar with mosquitto/MQTT at all?

tender wren
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It depends

stiff hamlet
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I posted something in add-ons, having a frustrating issue with homeassistant selectively discovering devices from MQTT

empty bloom
stiff hamlet
empty bloom
still citrus
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Not sure where to start with figuring this out, but my home assistant instance seems to no longer be able to interact with any local network integrations or features.

  • I can't access homeassistant.local but I can access it via nabucasa
  • MQTT can't connect to local broker but confirmed that local broker is running fine
  • LocalTuya cannot connect to any wifi devices that I have
  • I've confirmed that I'm still on my local network, with the same registered local IP from router, and I made no other changes

It was working for past year +1. Over last week I saw some connectivity issues. 1-2 days ago, it's stopped functioning 100% connecting to local

proven grove
still citrus
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I use starlink, to a personal router, so I dont think anything changed there and I'm not seeing any recent firmware updates on my peplink router

proven grove
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Can you ping other devices on your local network? What are you running HA on?

still citrus
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ha is running via virtualbox

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and I can see the clients of my PC and HA setup on my router list. I can see the mqtt events using that PC and mqtt explorer

proven grove
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If you go to the console, can you ping from outside of your VM instance?

still citrus
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I'm on a laptop. On same network.. I'm remoted into my NUC devide that is running the VM. What should I be running and what should i be pinging?

proven grove
still citrus
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I just killed my VM and rebooted it because it was in headless. everything is now working

I dont understand how. I've rebooted and restarted 20 times in the last few days troubleshooting

proven grove
still citrus
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I wish I knew what is going wrong. It has been intermittent for 1-2 weeks. And usually reboots (rebooting the VM, the NUC running the VM, my internet, and my router) eventually fixes it. BUt I spent 6-8 hrs troubleshooting it yesterday because NOTHING would get it back up and running. I even rolled back home assistant backups, downgrade various addons/plugins. Uninstalled/reconfigured. And obviously did several reboots.

Any idea how to get to the core of what is happening via old logs or something?

proven grove
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Generally no. But you mentioned Virtualbox which is notorious for having issues. Some people have great luck with it, other times it is nothing but headaches.

still citrus
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it's been coasting along great for 1+ years now. Relatively untouched. Just HA updates

proven grove
still citrus
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I rolled back 2024.7.1 and 2024.6.2 earlier and neither fixed at the time. Right now it's running 2024.6.4. I hadn't seen any bugs reported from others in any of the versions.

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And, no.. I have auto-updates off. I dont think the Virtualbox has auto-updates, but I can double check

proven grove
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Yeah, not sure tbh. We generally don’t recommend running HA in Virtualbox on Windows as there’s just so many places things can go weird for no reason.

still citrus
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what's recommended? I want to use the NUC I have to run HA

proven grove
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Linux (usually Debian) with proxmox is what we usually recommend.

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But, if you’re not using the NUC for anything else, you could just do a bare metal install of HAOS.

still citrus
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I live off grid (travel full time in RV). My main home systems are running of HA, but I'm not tech-savy enough to leave windows because it gives me official redundacies that haven't failed me (i.e. when HA stops working, i can still use teamviewer to remote into the device from anywhere since windows keeps me on and connected to internet) I still have google home, and the apps that every other smart device comes with to access directly as long as my internet stays up.

I'm afraid if i go to HAOS or linux that if something screwy goes on, I wont be able to access anything remotely, which would be an issue

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Am I being short-sighted or overly worried?

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And when I say main home assistance. I have solar and battery bank setup, and that is my power source. I use victron (VRM is a backup that seems to always work remotely) but we have pets onboard, so making sure temps are good, and power is there is important

olive ember
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Then Proxmox could be your solution. You have access to the console/screen of your VM trough proxmox Web interface.

proven grove
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Yeah, proxmox on Linux is simple to setup and wouldn’t be too much of a learning curve at all.

olive ember
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It is so convenient.
"I" won't install bare metal

proven grove
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I don’t run HAOS at all (I really should), but generally, bare metal install is the safest of all the installation methods.

still citrus
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Thanks for the input. Now that this magically started working.. my generator magically stopped working.. onto the next problem

tawny gorge
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Hello folks, I have an issue to Connect remotely my HA. I use a HTTPS redirection URL with SSL certificat and the error message I have says : NSURL domain error- 1004. By local IP I can get access but not via the external URL.

gloomy orbit
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Hello, I have an issue where every maybe 5-7 days HAOS seems to die and I can't connect to it via the app or browser using the internal ip.

I'm running it in a Proxmox VM which by all data seems fine even when HA is unreachable. The ip also responds to pings (outside of the host).

There's nothing useful that I've found in the logs, nor any indication of the VM running out of resources. As a matter of fact, the proxmox graphs indicates that HA might have been running the whole time.

Any ideas where to start troubleshooting? A reboot of the VM solves the problem.

hybrid saddle
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hello, I wanted to play music from homeassistant (running on ha os) to my audio device which is a dac connected over usb (using the spotify connect addon) but i get really bad quality.
I already changed to another output profile but to no effect. I think it may has something todo with the default sample bitrate but idk how to change that as configurations in /etc/pulse/deamon.conf seems to be ignored.
Are there other ways to change the pulse audio settings?
On other linux os i got no problems with this dac.

proven grove
proven grove
quaint arrow
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i have not gotten very far with my homeassistant . I want to reset and start all over. What is the best method?

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do i have to reinstall?

zenith lodge
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-Ignore- not paying attention

raven forge
quaint arrow
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I have rebooted and tried it again

raven forge
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Oh. I expected your system to be in a proper state. In that case you might want to check ha supervisor logs and perhaps ha host logs.

quaint arrow
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ah ok

quaint arrow
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recommendation for naming conventions for devices

proven grove
quaint arrow
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thanks

copper steppe
proven grove
still citrus
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So - was in here earlier talking about issues with my local network. Got it working magicaly lafter day(s) of trouble shooting, all I did was reboot this morning.

Now not working, but I have a specific time that hopefully I can see something in the logs to tell me what's going on. Can anyone give some guidance on what I should pull

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@gloomy orbit your issue sounds similar to mine.. have you had any luck?

copper steppe
copper steppe
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@proven grove you said "bare metal install is the safest of all the installation methods", which I disagree with. Bare metal is harder to manage (snapshots, rollbacks, backups, remote access, cloning etc); plus you can't run >1 thing on the box at the same time. IMHO proxmox, even if you realistically only run a HAOS VM on it, is better and maybe even easier (especially with tteck scripts).

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Of course, this is on a minipc etc, not a rpi, where running native haos makes more sense.

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all IMHO of course 🙂

proven grove
# copper steppe <@534201530895564800> you said "bare metal install is the safest of all the ins...

True, but that’s something that new users that don’t have technical experience need to be eased into. I don’t disagree with you, but with users that don’t have Linux/VM experience, HAOS bare metal is the safest option. As they learn, that option changes. I don’t disagree with you, but supporting people who are all over the spectrum of new and experienced, I tend to go with the easiest option.

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I look at this from more of a support role, than what is considered “best”, if that makes sense?

raven forge
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I wouldn't describe Installing HAOS bare-metal as trivial either. You need to fiddle with the BIOS/UEFI, flash a USB stick, boot off of it, flash HAOS to internal disk etc.

copper steppe
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Yeah, all that stuff is kindof error prone. It's all a trade off eh

still citrus
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So still think this is just a VM issue or is there something we can pic apart from the logs?

proven grove
still citrus
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Issue resolved and came back. Is there something I can share from logs that may help?

raven forge
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Please provide/link to context. You can't expect everyone to know what your issue even was.

brazen gull
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Anyone has migrated from HA on RPI (with supervisor/HASS OS) to a docker based HA version? Ive got quite a lot of config/lots of custom components through HACS etc, looking for any experience/advice!

proven grove
brazen gull
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Addons are completely out of the equation now I assume, so the Ring MQTT addon etc is a no go now... Damn.

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Might not be a feasible migration then.

raven forge
brazen gull
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Oh I see - it would just run as its own container as well

proven grove
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Well, yes and no. Addons are basically just docker containers with some special "magic" added to them for HA integration. You can usually find container versions of the addons and run them that way. You won't have the same ingress into HA, but the functionality is virtually the same.

brazen gull
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Right - lots of readng to take place.

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Appreciate the help!

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I may well be back... 🙂

brazen gull
raven forge
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Assuming you copied it completely. Hidden directories and files included.

undone lance
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anyone know why i can`t create any accounts? when i use the Onboarding, i press create account and nothing happens. after some time it refreshes to login, but the account does not work.
I check command: ha auth list, and it shows Users: []

raven forge
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Which browser do you use?

proven grove
undone lance
humble mirage
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Make sure the username is only lowercase, no capital letters

raven forge
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Not that one should have to care about that when using a modern browser but I've seen issues with firefox and restoring backups for example.
I also saw that setup/onboarding issue mentioned in one of the bugs on github but the term to find it escapes me at the moment.

undone lance
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but i then need to reinstall the whole HA to get back to onboarding? i cant create account with a command line or something?

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and users should show with "ha auth list" , right?`

raven forge
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I found it: https://github.com/home-assistant/operating-system/issues/3459
Apparently you can't create an account via the CLI. You could try if you can restart onboarding some way. Yes, when called from the right place it should show the user list.
If all else fails you can try ha os datadisk wipe to start fresh.

still citrus
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Anyone able to help me get to the root of what kight be happening here? Was suggested that it might be that I run via VM? Issues just started in last 1-2 weeks. 3 days ago is when it stopped altogether. Then a 1 in 20 reboot fixed it. Then it stopped working again...
#installation-archived message

humble mirage
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And you've checked that the LAN IP is still correct? You've tried that rather than homeassistant.local?

still citrus
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Yes. I've tried LAN and I can't connect still

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But I can see in my VM the connection, and it hasn't changed.

It worked for half the day yesterday, then stopped.

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Was going to post photo but looks disabled. Recommended site like pastebin for photos?

brazen gull
proven grove
humble scaffoldBOT
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@still citrus Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

still citrus
humble mirage
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Why do you have two network interfaces on the same subnet?

brazen gull
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What networking type in Docker do you generally use for Home Assistant? Host? Macvlan?

proven grove
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Host is required.

brazen gull
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Would macvlan not work?

proven grove
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It would, but only for external device. Macvlan cannot communicate with bridge or host networks.

humble mirage
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The docs are also pretty clear that you use host

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Lots of integrations in HA rely on broadcast/multicast

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Not using host means those don't work

still citrus
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I'm actually not sure why that's happening. It may because it has a wifi and LAN conection? I dont recall if that was normal or not but I haven't touched the NUC settings or VM settings in over a year and it has been working. Not sure what would cause the changes.

What are you recommending I do/?

humble mirage
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Why do you have both LAN and WiFi?

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The VM should only have one connection to the network

still citrus
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I dont know how/why it uses both. I'd assume it would fail over to wifi when needed. I'm not sure if I ever noticed it would connect to both

humble mirage
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You set it up with both 😉

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Don't do that, give it wired only

still citrus
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For whatever reason - I think wifi dropped. And HA is working again (literally kicked on 2 minutes ago, because a bunch of automations started firing)

I just checked the connection again, and it shows ONLY one IP now. Maybe when it connects to a both networks, it has IP communication issues.

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I live off solar power. Everything runs on 12V DC systems (For the most part). The ethernet switch happens to be on the AC system. In low power states, LAN powers off but wifi still works. this is why I have both

humble mirage
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Then get power to the LAN

still citrus
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Easier said than done.

Any systemic way to make sure it only uses one connection at a time and prioritizes LAN

humble mirage
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Not that I know of

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Best bet is probably to use WiFi and pray

still citrus
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THanks

tawny gorge
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Hi, did you had an issue for remote access via httpS ? I had something similar I think (SSL error)

limpid wren
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hello, ive had a weird thing happen, i boot haos off an external drive on rpi4, ive had some crashing issues in the past but now its not getting past uboot, it spits out a few timeout lines after finding the disk and then shuts down. all the files are still on the disk, so it shouldnt be a disk corruption.

humble mirage
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So, no idea how to fix this SSL error

open radish
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Hello all you geniuses!! I have installed HA Supervised on my RPI4. (It runs klipper, so HA OS wasn't an option.) I gotta be honest, the devs behind all this deserve some kind of award! So My question is this - When you install Home Assistant Supervised installation, do you have to do anything special to get a secure (https) connection while connecting to the server from within the network? I am getting all insecure connections, and I don't think I did anything that would affect this.

brazen herald
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Well you've managed to do an unsupported install.

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There shouldn't be any difference in the setup for https, but honestly considering you've deviated from the install docs, it's not really possible to say what the problem is without a deeper dive.

astral veldt
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Supervised experts aren’t easy to come by, either, but someone may pop around willing to help figure it out with you.

open radish
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Thank you Missy. Seems like if you use the supervised install (https://github.com/home-assistant/supervised-installer) and you have any problems, the response from the community has the tone of 'You dug yourself into this, dig yourself out.'. I realize there can likely be issues directly related to this type of installation, but there are going to be loads of issues which aren't.

brazen herald
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Why did you go with Supervised over Container?

astral veldt
open radish
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I did container first, but quickly found that I couldn't install an add on which I needed.

brazen herald
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Add-ons are docker containers

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You just need to set up docker containers for any #add-ons-archived you want and configure them.

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Overall the amount of work is considerably less than Supervised, and easier to support 🙂

open radish
raven forge
brazen herald
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The alternative is to run HAOS in a VM. But on a Pi that's not a good idea—you're already limited for resources.

manic bane
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I personally use the container HA install. Also have a container for zigbee2mqtt, esphome, mariadb, etc
It’s not much more effort than using addons with a supervisor either

open radish
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Interesting... Is there information you can point me to which could help me to do that?

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(Rosemary?)

brazen herald
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Honestly, you just need to find whatever the add-on is that you're interested in, and use the docker compose files to set it up and run it. (Docker compose is recommended just because then don't need to save the docker run commands every time)

open radish
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I clearly need to learn more about Docker.

brazen herald
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You can even set up a single docker compose files which has dependencies, so Zigbee2MQTT doesn't start before Mosquitto, for example

open radish
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Maybe I should be proud of myself for getting this far... Everything else is going fantastic! Using ESPHome, and have 5 devices running on it.

brazen herald
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ESPHome works as a container too! 😄

open radish
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But perhaps, is there a direction someone could send me towards with information on problems with insecure connections in general, which might apply? Starting over sounds.... like a TON of work, for a problem which might not be too hard to fix in my current state.

brazen herald
tender wren
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Is it a problem? Do you need SSL on your local network?

open radish
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The other add on is ewelink.

brazen herald
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If you do a backup, you can restore the backup easily. And doing backups is highly recommended 😉

open radish
brazen herald
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Most people don't use a secure connection locally. Just on reverse proxy

open radish
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(Clone)

brazen herald
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Or you can use Nabu Casa for $5/month and support the project, which also handles the voice assistant stuff too.

crude inlet
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There is no ssl local connection by default with any of the install methods. That’s something you would have to configure yourself in any case

open radish
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I'm using Nabu Casa now, and plan to sign up after the trial. So am I worrying for nothing?

open radish
brazen herald
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Probably, you shouldn't need SSL

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You might need https to configure devices for ESPHome via a cable, but there's a public ESPHome for doing that with, or you can connect with your Nabu Casa URL for it.

open radish
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Ok. I'll just continue as I am, and deal with any speed bumps when they hit. Thanks everyone! Sorry to take your time.

brazen herald
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Definitely set up an automated backup system, one day you will be grateful to have it 🙂

open radish
raven forge
tender wren
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And keep backups on another device. Just for the case fecal matter impacts the rotor

tight brook
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I have a question regarding my current HA setup.

Im running Win10 on a lenovo intel 5th gen with HAOS on virtual box.
My current HA consists of a media server, frigate nvr ( im using cpu power, can't seem to pass through the graphics card)
Some of my other integrations are Local tuya, xiaomi, hacs, broadlink, qbittorrent etc.

I am noticing frequent crashing of virtual box... Also the nvr using the cpu is really heavy on the pc. And for some reason it wont save on my network drive.

Also im running a qbittorrent client on this win10 lenovo, plus a Minecraft server.

I started on ubuntu but it was so problematic and took forever just to set up basic things so I jumped to windows.

Any other way to do this? I don't want to have 3 different machines running at my house for this?

raven forge
tight brook
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Currently i have 12gb of ram, im dedicating 6gb... Maybe I could give it more i guess

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I could try proxmox ofc i just hope it supports external usb not like vmware haha

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Okay so im checking the # u gave me, and that would probably do the trick haha. I just home my pc will be enough

raven forge
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6G should be more than enough for HA. Maybe check the event viewer for why it crashed.

tight brook
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Damn these vbox logs are a mess, i recall it was something about "instruction cant be read" something or something like that... And the vbox crashed AFTER you clicked OK

copper steppe
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@tight brook Is there some reason you need to run windows natively? Maybe you should do it the other way around? Run proxmox natively, and run Windows (if you need it) in a VM?

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Trying to pass gfx windows->proxmox->vm is .... too many layers, almost certain to fail.

tight brook
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Yeah that's what im checking out Right now i see no problem with this kind of setup . I just hope it's not too complicated to set up, i managed to set ehat i have but yeah

copper steppe
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I have Mac and Windows VMs, alongside all my many LXC and VMs for home automation stuff.

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There's a couple of good guides, and using the tteck scripts makes setting up many common proxmox apps a "one line wonder" (including HAOS)

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My proxmox boxes are both lenovo thinkcentre 6500T and 7500T boxes, with 16GB of ram. They work great.

tight brook
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I was thinking of upgrading from my lenovo its a 8yrs old t430 laptop so not really a monster ahaha

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But yeah thanks for the guide, seem like a weekend of work tho haha

copper steppe
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It's not that bad ;). Creating a HAOS VM takes about 60 seconds, once you have proxmox installed.

tight brook
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I,just hope i can migrate everything smoothly from my current setup.
I just hope it wont mess up my Bluetooth devices and ssl certificates

copper steppe
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Where are those stored now? In your HA?

tight brook
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Yes

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I want to make a backup and then just import it into the new vm

copper steppe
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It will almost certainly break some stuff, but you can fix it. The hardware device-IDs will all change, from whatever vbox made up to whatever proxmox made up.

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Just Do It 🙂

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People in this channel can help you in realtime

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AFK shower time.

tight brook
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I will haha, i can't have virtualbox crashing on me everyday, im too dependable on HA

copper steppe
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You can buy a used thinkcentre like mine from eBay for like $100-120

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Small, cheap, fast enough, new ssd

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Would probably want a new/bigger disk though

halcyon agate
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anyone ever runned the UI on the server?

gloomy orbit
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Wut?

proven grove
halcyon agate
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im running HAOS

proven grove
fast sigil
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hello, freshie here, trying to install home assistant on an n100 pc. I follow the installation instructions through ubuntu, but when i get to the "create my smart home" screen i try to make a new account but i can't go forward. the Create Account button doesn't do anything and i get a 500 Internal Server Error. any idea?

humble mirage
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Make sure your username doesn't have capital letters

honest kernel
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Okay guys imma be death honest with yall im super new to this and i have no clue what im doing right now so i got the following question:
i have a intel nuc running linux is it possible to run homeassistant on the docker that i can access with my desktop?
if that is possible i also have a SONOFF ZigBee usb that i wanna use with the nuc to find zigbee devices i have a remote and a lamp right now working with zigbee will that be found within home assistant?

gloomy orbit
honest kernel
proven grove
honest kernel
proven grove
honest kernel
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thanks will try and see how far i get

swift portal
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is it possible to multi-home an HA Docker install on two differnet macvlan networks? if so, what does the docker-compose.yaml look like for that? I can't seem to get it to work.

humble mirage
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Well... mostly no, because HA requires you to use host networking so that things like multicast/UPnP/etc work

swift portal
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I use macvlan and everything works fine generally, but recently I had issues trying to turn-up Frigate and CodeProject.AI containers that were on a different subnet/macvlan network - the APIs just wouldn't talk, even though I could ping and saw sniffer traffic.

Turns out I had MTU issues; my HA macvlan network's MTU was 9014 but wheN I manually set it to 1500 everything started working.

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The reason I was thinking multihomed would be better would be for better detecton of devices if the HA server was on my LAN, my IoT VLAN, and my Camera VLAN (for instance).

I've been thinking about switching over to host networking (since it's way more normal) but don't want to lose out on my LAN being able to receive broadcasts, etc. -- e.g my PleX server won't be detectable unless it's on the same VLAN most likely, among other things.

humble mirage
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VLANs and HA are just a massive pain - particularly if you ever want to use Matter

swift portal
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is the premise that all the communication has to be on the same layer 2 network w/Matter?

humble mirage
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Yes

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Same as for UPnP/zeroconf and others

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And trying to be "smart" with reflectors usually just breaks stuff

swift portal
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Yeah, at some point I will likely separate my HA docker machine from my non-HA Docker containers into a different machine/VM and will probably bite the bullet and convert to host networking at that point

fast sigil
humble mirage
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Yeah, it's a bug

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HA only accepts lowecase for usernames, but the frontend doesn't validate that apparently.... I think the fix is in but not yet released

ripe saffron
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my home assistant loses connection when I install esphome devices or any big install. I'm not sure where to look to find the reason for the lost connection.

humble mirage
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What hardware are you on?

ripe saffron
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i use a zimaboard

humble mirage
ripe saffron
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Generic x86-64

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I have deleted all the dashboards that were having problems, checked my network and still looses connection?

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i also disabled IPV6

humble mirage
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Check the logs (host, core, supervisor) at the time

frank hare
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hi can i setup HA on nas? if yes then is it a good idea?

humble mirage
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Depends on the NAS make and model

raven forge
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Most NAS devices are not very good at things other than being a NAS in my experience.

honest kernel
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hey so i tried running homeassistant on docker

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and right now i have the container running but i can only access it from my nuc and not something else in the network

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i have the same ip as the nuc but cant access that port any idea as to why?

raven forge
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Please share how you started it and how you access it.

honest kernel
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i deployed it on portainer

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then i see its running and when i go to myipadress:8123 on my nuc i do see the start up page

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but when i do it on my main pc i get the error connecting to server

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it shares the same ip

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and its a fresh ubuntu install on the nuc

raven forge
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Please use one of the documented ways so we can help best. I recommend compose. Portainer can read compose files as well.

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Can you also check and share the local ip adresses of your PC and the NUC?

honest kernel
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127.0.0.1

raven forge
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And the other one?

honest kernel
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i see

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LOL

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thanks\

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i kept trying to connect with 127.0.0.1

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instead of the ipv4 one

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thanks legend ❤️

raven forge
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You can probably replace the ip with the NUC's hostname as well. Depends a bit on your networking setup.

honest kernel
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How would i find the hostname?

raven forge
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hostname in the CLI of your NUC or check the prompt. It will probably look something like user@hostname:~#.

honest kernel
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i see lots to learn loving it so far new to whole homeassistant docker and linux

raven forge
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Yeah it's a lot of stuff to learn at first.

honest kernel
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okay so next question haha i got a sonoff zigbee usb in my nuc how can i add it to home assistant and how will it find other stuff?

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right now i got only one zigbee device to try it with being the styrbar remote from ikea with zigbee

raven forge
gloomy orbit
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Hi, I have a recurring problem with HA dying every 3-4 days. It responds to ping, but I cant access it via the GUI or SSH. Looking at the proxmox logs it seems to get a surge in in traffic, then - boom dead. Also disk read going up a lot.

Any clues what might be happening here?

https://i.imgur.com/SD55jsS.png

tender wren
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Maybe a bad custom integration. Restart to safe mode and observe, if it still happens.

humble scaffoldBOT
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If you're having problems with your updates to your configuration:

gloomy orbit
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Might need to resort to that, but not super keen on running it in safe mode for 3-5 days

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Yes, I will increase logging

gloomy orbit
# tender wren Maybe a bad custom integration. Restart to safe mode and observe, if it still ha...

Not sure on this, but this looks a bit suspicious?

2024-07-17 18:25:13.029 WARNING (SyncWorker_40) [homeassistant.helpers.frame] Detected that custom integration 'edgeos' calls hass.async_create_task from a thread other than the event loop, which may cause Home Assistant to crash or data to corrupt. For more information, see https://developers.home-assistant.io/docs/asyncio_thread_safety/#hassasync_create_task at custom_components/edgeos/core/managers/home_assistant.py, line 77: self._hass.async_create_task(self.async_send_heartbeat()), please report it to the author of the 'edgeos' custom integration
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Also logging a lot of these 2024-07-17 18:24:23.588 WARNING (SyncWorker_57) [custom_components.edgeos.core.managers.home_assistant] Update in progress, will skip the request

proven grove
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(I think that's the integration you're using)

gloomy orbit
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Do you think that could be the cause of it crashing? I find it strange that it happens so seldom. But the error states it quite clearly... I'll disable it and see if it happens again at least

proven grove
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Yup. It's crossing thread boundaries and that's a bad thing to do. It was fine largely ignored in the past, but there have been changes to HA that prevent that kind of bad behavior.

gloomy orbit
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Cheers!

fast sigil
glacial pivot
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Anyone know how to use / enable a POE_HAT with LED screen on a device running HASSIO OS?

proven grove
glacial pivot
glacial pivot
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It would have been for the GPIO connected OLED screen, not a specific display / homeassistant related setup.

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Just temps, cpu, fan control, etc.

proven grove
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Hmmmm... GPIO support has been deprecated and I know that HAOS doesn't support it (well, not officially at least. There is a custom integration (I think) that enables GPIO support. https://github.com/thecode/ha-rpi_gpio

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That might work?

glacial pivot
proven grove
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It'll be a bit tricky if you need to load custom packages though. In which case, you could use something like AppDaemon or pyscript.

glacial pivot
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I don't think I'm experienced enough with HomeAssistant to achieve something like this, just getting started; maybe in a couple weeks / months I guess.

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Honestly surprised this hasn't been brought up by others in the past, but fair enough. 🙏

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Appreciate the quick response. 🙂

proven grove
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No problem! It's actually not that common because you can display those things on your dashboard and not have to see your rPi. 😉

glacial pivot
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That's fair! I just have LCD on this hat I'm using so figured it's always useful in a pinch / for quick debug etc. Especially also cause it has a fan that can be controlled via GPIO which sorta feels like leaving preformance on the table ahaha.

proven grove
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lol well, yeah, but HAOS doesn't have any kind of fan control anyhow (well, outside of using that integration I posted before).

glacial orbit
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Heyo, newbie here. I just bought a Beelink N100 to run HA on. I want to also run some other dockerised apps off the same machine. Can I use HAOS and install docker on that or will I need to install linux/ docker and find a HA docker image to host HA?

humble mirage
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No need to find it, it's in the docs 😉

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HAOS doesn't support non-add-on software, so if you want to run random Docker containers you can't use it

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You could install Proxmox and run HAOS in one VM and everything else in another

glacial orbit
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Is there a benefit to using proxmox over just docker containers for everything? I've not used any VM stuff before. Also do you have any suggestions on youtube vids/ guides on installing proxmox on a new barebones machine? I'm very new to all of this

raven forge
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The idea is that through virtualization you have 2 "PCs". One can run HAOS and the other all your docker containers or whatever you want.

gloomy orbit
solar marsh
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Ok, not sure what channel to ask these questions...

I'm new to HA. I'm trying to figure out Switches vs Plugs vs Bulbs.

In my office I have 8 standard bulbs in standard recessed ceiling lights on one switch. I would think it would make sense to just get a switch for that room, right?

In my living room I have 3 lamps plugged into the wall. Two of them are on switched outlets, the other on a normal outlet. That one makes sense to replace bulbs.

I have a couple hallways with a single light and single switch. What makes sense here?

Now for the fun ones. Dining room with a chandelier and two switches. Can't replace the bulbs, but are there two way smart switches?

viscid sigil
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But smart bulbs for accent lamps where you may use colour, smart dimmers/switches, that can be used even if HA is offline, everywhere else.

solar marsh
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What about 2 or 3 way switches

oak wyvern
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hey fellas! quick question, in order to keep energy bill low, i am considering installing home assistant on a pi 3b+

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now most likely it will connect to ble devices and zigbee

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so i think it should be enough for that

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i suppose i could give it a go for video

humble mirage
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It'll be ok, but not good

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I'd use a Pi4 as the lowest sane option, with a powered USB hub and an SSD

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At that point you're in the same power ballpark as an old i5 laptop, which will perfom better

oak wyvern
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thats the only issue with the pi 4 is the amps

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requires at least 3, right

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also regarding the zigbee connection, can you recommend a cheap zigbee usb

humble mirage
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The SkyConnect or whatever they renamed it to is cheap

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Also, the Pi3 only has 1 GB of RAM, that's already a bit borderline, plus SD card lifespan is shocking. Don't do that to yourself.

oak wyvern
humble mirage
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Google?

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home assistant skyconnect

oak wyvern
humble mirage
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That's maybe ok, maybe not... up to you if you're happy to risk wasting money

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Me... I'd spend the money on something from Tube or SMLight

oak wyvern
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i have rolled the dice with aliexpress on other items before and it went well

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but once in a while i do buy brand name

humble mirage
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You asked for advice... it's always up to you if you listen

oak wyvern
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i just dont have that many zigbee items

oak wyvern
humble mirage
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You just don't care 😛

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Buy X
Nah, that costs too much

oak wyvern
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and you are right, i mean just get something that works from the start

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well its still prime day

humble mirage
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Well... whatever you decide to do ... good luck with it ... you're gonna need it

oak wyvern
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lets see if its cheap there

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@humble mirage i will say this tho, it seems this aliexpress zigbee uses the same EFR32MG21

humble mirage
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So?

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There's a world of difference between good RF design and assembly and mostly good enough

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The folks in #zwave-archived have a lot of experience of sticks that behave very differently despite being the same - and the same goes for #zigbee-archived

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Anyway... go buy the cheap crap, but don't say I didn't warn you

oak wyvern
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i suppose i could ask in there as well but i was just trying to find something cheaper than 30 bucks, considering this is my only zigbee item

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but in all honesty i do appreciate the advice

humble mirage
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Really? Because all you've done is push back against it...

oak wyvern
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not pushed back just asked if there might have been an even cheaper version

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well the only reason i am using this is to use a third reality smart plug

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@humble mirage but wait i think i might be able to just connect to it via ble

humble scaffoldBOT
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@oak wyvern Discord isn't like IRC, you don't have to tag people on every response. Keep in mind that every time you tag somebody, they get a notification ping. That can very quickly become annoying and people may block you.
When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

oak wyvern
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whoops, sorry about!

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but i can just connect to via ble, correct and not get a zigbee usb device

humble mirage
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Maybe

oak wyvern
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i will give that a shot before i start

quick wagon
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Hello everyone, does HA works on rPi 5?

manic bane
quick wagon
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Do I need an external ssd?

humble mirage
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Need, no. Should use, hell yes

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Unless you like data loss?

raven forge
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The pi 5 still needs a powered USB, right?

humble mirage
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You can get NVMe hats now, so not necessarily

quick wagon
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Thank you guys

raven forge
humble mirage
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If you must use a Pi that's the best way IMO

rapid glen
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Hello, i would like to ask some help with setting up HA on docker installation (ubuntu) with z2m + mosquitto broker. if anyone able to assist me would be much appreciated.

proven grove
rapid glen
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setting it up, i dont understand what i need to do, i mean i have a HAOS setup also but its not working well, there i just add the integrations and its added. but with the docker setup i dont understand how to link it all together

proven grove
rapid glen
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I have HA running, that is not the issue, my issue is with getting z2m and mosquitto to work with HA

proven grove
rapid glen
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Yes i have read these articles, couldnt get it to work, i dont understnad why i am sure i am missing something hance i ask for help

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with the process

proven grove
formal pawn
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I got the following errors when upgrading to the latest version, running in docker

2024-07-18 08:51:45.957 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.components.hassio.handler] Found incompatible HTTP option 'server_host'. Watchdog feature disabled
2024-07-18 09:15:25.105 ERROR (MainThread) [frontend.js.latest.202407100] Uncaught error from WebKit 605.1.15 on iOS 17.5.1
ReferenceError: Can't find variable: Polymer
module code (/local/battery-entity.js:1:36)

humble mirage
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You have hassio there... that's not going to be the case on a pure Docker install

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Do you really run Supervised?

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Did you used to run HAOS/Supervised and restored a backup on a Docker install?

formal pawn
tender wren
humble mirage
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Also, you can (and should) remove the server_host line, and the old hassio integration if you're really on Docker

formal pawn
formal pawn
humble mirage
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Then you have either HAOS or the cursed Supervised

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Probably the latter

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The best thing to do is to move to HAOS, or move to Docker, but either way stop running Supervised

formal pawn
humble mirage
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Yes, but use HAOS

formal pawn
proven grove
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But you can install proxmox and use it in a VM.

humble scaffoldBOT
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@formal pawn When using Discord's Reply feature it defaults to pinging the person you reply to, which can get frustrating for the target. Use Shift + click on the Reply option, or click @ ON to @ OFF to stop this - on the right side of the compose bar.

You have to change this every time (thank the Discord devs for that).

formal pawn
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Sorry tinkerer

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Any downside to installing Supervised instead? I like having the add-ons feature which core and container do not have

proven grove
humble mirage
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Only downsides to Supervised

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There's no upsides

proven grove
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lmfao neon100

formal pawn
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Later, you mean like right now hahaha

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Thanks everyone, I’ll do some research

proven grove
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Seriously... install proxmox and setup HAOS in a VM.

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Or, go with Container and install addons as containers.

formal pawn
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Thanks, I’ll do some research. Never used proxmox before

proven grove
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LOTS and LOTS of forum posts on how to install and use it.

formal pawn
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Perfect, appreciate the advice!

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Would I need to create 2 VMs, one for HAOS and another that I move my existing docker setup to?

proven grove
formal pawn
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Damn, I have quite the weekend in store!

humble mirage
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You could even run a KVM VM on your Ubuntu box

formal pawn
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Thanks, I’ll look into that. I’m not familiar with VMs on Ubuntu and still not super familiar with docker so having to move it is kinda daunting

raven forge
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If you're not familiar with VMs I recommend something like proxmox VE. Otherwise you might quickly come to hate them if you use something more CLI centric or involved like virsh.

harsh cargo
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Hi all, while reinstalling HA on RPI4 with docker and portainer, i have the issue that it does not find anything on my network on the setup? Is there any easy solution to fix this?

raven forge
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Did you use host networking as per the docs?

harsh cargo
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I thought i did, but obiously i did not. Thank you 🙂

weak sand
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Hi, I'm trying to connect my zigbee dongle to HA. HA detects well the dongle, but it's after to configure it, I click on "erase network parameters and create a new one" then it says "Loading the next step for ZHA" but never stop loading... it loads for infinite and my VM crashes, or a error message pops up and stop the loading... I flashed the firmware of my dongle to reset and be sure that it doesn't come from the dongle, but I still can't connect it to HA... I tried to erase virtualbox, my vm and download everything back but it still doesn't work. someone has an idea ? here is the log after my crash https://imgur.com/a/KWBtyj6 and the log after my crash but without going back on HA https://imgur.com/a/pBfO6ud (no supervisor since I didn't go on HA, i just powered up the vm)

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someone saw the last link and told me that i might have done something wrong when i installed HA so that's why Im here

proven grove
weak sand
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do you have suggestions for what I can use if I don't use virtualbox ?

proven grove
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Is this running on a dedicated machine?

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Or are you running it on your desktop PC or something like that?

weak sand
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the fact is I can access to HA and I ccan ping my vm so the bridge network is finee...

proven grove
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fine-ish. Your logs are showing network errors.

weak sand
proven grove
weak sand
weak sand
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it's been 2 months i'm trying to do that x)

proven grove
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So, the same recommendation I made before, I'm going to make again. Don't run it on a Windows machine. Use ANYTHING besides Windows and VirtualBox. Spend a bit of money and get yourself a mini PC or something. I guarantee you will have a better experience and will finally acheive what you want.

proven grove
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You also won't have access to HA remotely.

weak sand
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just to be sure, why can't I access it remotely ? after I have downloaded everything, in a world that Ha and my zigbee devices are working, my home (HA) would be on the cloud no ? so any computer with internet could access it no ?

proven grove
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No. If the machine running HA has no internet access, then it wouldn't be available remotely.

weak sand
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to explain, my goal was to being able to reboot computers from home for my company, so with plugs connected to HA

weak sand
proven grove
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Keep explaining what you want to do. I'm 99% certain we can figure out a solution for you.

humble mirage
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Remote access for any computer requires that it can access the internet (or some other shared network)

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Sadly magic isn't really an option

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HA will run fine without internet, but obviously no cloud integration will work and you can't access it remotely

weak sand
# proven grove Keep explaining what you want to do. I'm 99% certain we can figure out a solutio...

You know with working from home, engineers need to being able to reboot the computer they are working on from home (the computer being at the company not with them). It can crash a lot with you are working on anything related to computer science x). For the moment, they need to call someone at the company to reboot it which is far from optimal. So my goal is to create an interface or something that allow them to reboot the computer of the company from home without calling someone. To do that, I thought of domotic. I bought a few connected plugs from Sonoff and I wanted to connect them to the computers of the company thanks to a zigbee dongle and HA. From HA, I can turn off my plug to shutdown the computer then turn on the plug, and in the BIOS of the computer, I can add the option that whne the computer detects power, it powers up automotically. So I need to access HA remotely...

humble mirage
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Cutting the power is brutal and is not how you solve this

weak sand
humble mirage
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Ideally you want the "remote" computer to have LOM (lights out management)

weak sand
humble mirage
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Failing that you would look to see if you can hook something up to do a controlled shutdown - cutting power should be the last possible step

olive ember
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To reboot remote computers, i would use something like a remote desktop.

weak sand
weak sand
olive ember
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or better, move those "personal computers" on "real servers" . All real servers have remote access solutions ( Dell call it DRAC i think, all brands have their own solutions).
You can even enter the BIOS. It's like a KVM, but builtin into the motherboard, with dedicated RJ45

weak sand
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For the moment, we are using VNC to access computers remotely

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Thanks a lot guys, I will look into all of that, It's like discovering a new world haha

olive ember
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New solutions are more and more using Virtualization on those servers

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So you have the best of both solutions

proven grove
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That was going to be one of my suggestions. Use something like AWS VCD (Virtual Cloud Desktop) and then the laptops given to the employees are just dumb terminals at that point.

olive ember
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Indeed you could rent those "physical" servers, or virtual servers ( u can ask more CPU, memory, hd space if/when u need it, backups...)

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I'm currently hosting my own vpn solution in germany. my home router is 24/7 connected to it. I can connect to my vpn solution from everywhere. Total cost 1€21 per month... even cheaper than costs of a running rPi 🙂

weak sand
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Yes it's like that in my company also. We are using a VPN between our personal PC to acces computer at the company. So they are not connected to internet but with "intranet".

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If I can use internet to add my integrations (my dongle zigbee and plugs), then turn off internet, I will be able to access HA from any personal computer thanks to the VPN, and HA should work and being able to turn off plug ? even without internet ?

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I know it's not the best solution and really brutal but since It's been 2 months I'm on this I would like to try like this... and at the same time look at the solutions you gave me to use a not brutal system

humble mirage
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Well, yes, HA can turn off any local plug

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The question is how you'll tell HA to do that

weak sand
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I would access HA of my computer thanks to the VPN from a personal PC

humble mirage
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Then yes, that'll work

olive ember
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If i were you i would try to re-use any kind of PC, install proxmox on it, then HA, then zigbee with one or 2 plugs....

humble mirage
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You should review their post history 😉

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They've kinda done that already, and more

weak sand
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okay I've got some work to do haha, I will look into all that, thanks again, fast and clear answers handgesture

weak sand
weak sand
humble mirage
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You're already running HA in a VM

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You already have Zigbee

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Changing the VM platform won't meaningfully change what you're doing

proven grove
humble mirage
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Yeah, getting off Windows won't hurt, but it's also not the source of these problems

weak sand
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oh ok, I still don't know why my dongle can't connect my HA then haha, my dongle is well detected by HA, if virtualbox is not the problem, and I already reset my dongle by flashing the firmware, I don't know what to do next... I created a lot of HA vm thanks to virtualbox and eachtime delete everything to create a new one, so maybe now it blocks it I don't know...

olive ember
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Set up a small Proxmox at home. Cool and relax at home with a beer... it's easy! Chose the royal+free+easy+stable solution!!!!
Sould'nt take more than a few hours if you have some experience/knwoledge.
2 or 3 days if you have to discover everything... Not 2 months 😉

dusk herald
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I have installed home assistant yellow and booted it up. I have a bunch of IKEA bulp and remotes (and an ikea digirera hub). Should HA yellow discover my IKEA bulbs automatically or do I need to install the IKEA addon and connect it to my IKEA hub? I know that HA yellow works since it discovered my elgato light.

humble mirage
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Not the add-on, but the integration

proven grove
humble scaffoldBOT
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#integrations-archived integrate Home Assistant with devices or services, or provide functionality within Home Assistant.

#add-ons-archived provide additional software or services, which an integration could possibility integrate with. Add-ons are for Home Assistant OS and Supervised only, other install methods can install software other ways.

glacial orbit
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Heyo, if I just bought an N100 and I want to set up proxmox on it. If I take out the SSD which comes with it and use balenaetcher to write the proxmox iso file directly onto it can I just plonk it back in and it work or do I need to create a bootable USB drive with proxmox?

raven forge
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You can't use etcher to install proxmox VE directly. You have to boot the installer flashed to a USB stick or similar and then use that to install it to the SSD.

glacial orbit
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ah that's annoying - thanks for the help!

paper helm
#

Has anyone tried installing Home Assistant on the Radxa X4? It would be great if a Zigbee HAT could be installed on the GPIO of this SBC.
https://radxa.com/products/x/x4/

olive ember
olive ember
glacial orbit
olive ember
glacial orbit
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I'm trying to follow this guide to getting proxmox setup: https://www.makeuseof.com/install-proxmox-on-intel-nuc-or-x86-pc/

They suggest using balean etcher - is ventoy better? I've got to the step where I'm supposed to select the boot drive from the boot option/ order menu but the only option I have is "Enter Setup" which just takes me to BIOS

olive ember
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Then activate the boot on usb in the bios. or press F8 or F10 when you start your PC .

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F2 on my lenovo

raven forge
glacial orbit
raven forge
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Probably network issues. Try just wget https://github.com/tteck/Proxmox/raw/main/misc/post-pve-install.sh without the flags and subshell stuff.

glacial orbit
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I have a feeling I messed something up somewhere during this process :/

olive ember
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I wouldn't run any script ... not written or approved by me.

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does "ping google" works ?

glacial orbit
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Neither worked:
;; communications error to 8.8.8.8#53: timed out
;; no servers could be reached

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ping: google: Temporary failure in name resolution

olive ember
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ping your gateway first then

raven forge
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The PVE installer should give you a valid placeholder ip via DHCP unless it couldn't get one.
Did you change the default ip? If yes to what?

glacial orbit
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I did. I changed ip to 192.168.1.230 and gateway to 192.168.1.254

raven forge
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And you are certain these values are valid for your network?

olive ember
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on your windows, run ipconfig

glacial orbit
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No, I was following a youtube video - is this a wipe it all and start again type of situation?

raven forge
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No.

olive ember
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ipconfig will tell you the gateway

raven forge
#

It may be easier though. You can run dhclient -v to temporarily grab one via DHCP and you then have to edit a few files with a valid ip.

olive ember
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LOL .... Murphy's law !!!! if there is a chance something could go wrong ... 😉

glacial orbit
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Default gateway from ipconfig is 192.168.1.1

olive ember
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AH AHH

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SO, rour network is 192.168.1.X gateway 192.168.1.1 .....

raven forge
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nano /etc/network/interfaces. Change the gateway, save and exit then run ifreload -av and try again.

glacial orbit
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what should I change the gateway to?

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same as the one I got from ipconfig?

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tteck post install script running smile

olive ember
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OMG

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another script that could ruin the simple and working proxmox

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LOL

glacial orbit
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rip me

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is there anything else I need to do to fix my erroneous ip/ gateway dns shenanigans?

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I set the default dns to 8.8.8.8 too

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now regretting trying to follow multiple guides at once and doing them all badly

olive ember
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NO. juste reboot, and reach your proxmox on http:// port 8006

raven forge
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I'm not a fan of these scripts either but starting with PVE is quite hard at first so I just hope they are only used as a kick start.

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No reboot needed in this case.

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What you should do is to reserve that ip in your router so it's not handed out via DHCP. You don't want ip conflicts.

olive ember
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gooog catch @raven forge

glacial orbit
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Will do - thanks for all the help both!

olive ember
#

So you have your proxmox in your web browser now ?

glacial orbit
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ya ya

olive ember
#

Now, on the left pannel, you should see behind cluster, your proxmox. 🙂 and i think you should have a default storage called "local?"

raven forge
glacial orbit
olive ember
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indeed , i'm running a cluster 😉

glacial orbit
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phew - thought I'd messed up something else 😅

olive ember
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No no ....

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If you have a nas, may be it will be your next step.... in order to upload your ISO's

glacial orbit
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When I'm more comfortable with proxmox, HA and docker, setting up a NAS for Jellyfin is the next thing I want to do!

raven forge
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Just make sure you utilize the benefits of VMs to their fullest. Make backups, do snapshots before you test things. Stuff like that.

olive ember
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Yes indeed. and you really should consider automatic backup. Minimum once a week, and as @raven forge said, before any (big) change, and, may be, the next day when it is validated. ( or just wait your weekly backup...

humble mirage
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Take them often, and test restores periodically

charred estuary
#

I got HA OS on a dell computer. I followed all of the steps and went to my homeassistant.local:8123/. I got the the "Create Account" step but whenever I clicked to create my account nothing happened. I turned off my Add Block and tried again but again nothing happened. Now when I got to it it goes straight to a login screen but I don't have an account yet. I checked on my HA comptuer and there are no users listed. Not sure how to get back tot he onboarding screen to set up my account.

raven forge
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Did you use uppercase characters?

charred estuary
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I copied all of my credential from my password mananger, so no typing issues

raven forge
#

That doesn't answer my question and that's not why I'm asking. There's a bug I can't find where the frontend does not validate that your username is all lowercase so it lets you install HA with invalid/no credentials from what I can tell.

charred estuary
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I did use uppercase in my username

raven forge
ivory talon
#

Hey y'all! I'm just starting in my home automation/home assistant journey. Found an old laptop and cleared the drive to install HAOS. I'm getting an error on Home Assistant installation, stating something like "[supervisor.docker.interface] Can't install ghcr.io/home-assistant/generic-x86.... Client.Timeout exceeded while awaiting headers)')"

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I also have the logs if needed 🙂

rigid agate
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ls

proven grove
ivory talon
proven grove
# ivory talon Yes, ethernet

That error indicates that the installer couldn’t pull images (we see this A LOT). It can be for a few reasons, but usually it’s something on the local network blocking the download. From the laptop console, can you try to do a nslookup google.com and see what it returns?

pure walrus
#

Hi im stuck in a bit of headache...
i have been running my HA yellow for about 7-9 months. and suddenly in the last 2 days it has failed and crash nonstop. i have not added any new integration or add-ons in the last 1 mth.

mostly working to clean up my dashboard to make it more usable..

it has stopped working so i assume the first thing was to try and reinstall.. i have followed both Opt1 and Opt2 in HA yellow website but my HA yellow is still unable to boot.

humble scaffoldBOT
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@pure walrus I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
proven grove
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That looks like the storage device has an issue. What kind of storage do you have in it?

pure walrus
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im running stock HA yellow with a NVME

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CM4108032 and KIOXIA SSD LRC20Z001T

proven grove
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I’d try pulling the drive out and reseating it in the slot. If that doesn’t work, then try swapping it out. Also make sure the CM4 module is firmly seated as well.

pure walrus
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is there anyway i can complete clean out the cm4 and NVME

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so i can start from complete fresh

pure walrus
proven grove
pure walrus
proven grove
pure walrus
proven grove
pure walrus
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do u need the full log ?

hasty owl
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My install consumes 16gb memory, is that normal?

raven forge
#

Probably not. Please share a picture of wherever you saw that.

humble scaffoldBOT
#

Please use imgur or other image sharing web sites, and share the link here.

Image posting is blocked in most channels to discourage people from sharing text as images. Sharing text as images assumes that everybody sees the world as you do, which isn't the case. Some people are colour blind, or have visual impairment that means they can't make sense of an image of text.

candid karma
#

When booting up Raspberry pi zero 2 w, throws a message after a while of [WARN] CLI not started or whatever it was and the issue is it's a headless setup, I only have a screen to see the console from but no way apart from SSH to access how could I get past it and have it boot into HomeAssistant and no it's not plugged in with ethernet, sadly don't have a micro usb to ethernet

raven forge
candid karma
candid karma
# raven forge You cannot install HAOS without internet. It doesn't look like the pi zero is ev...

fully aware it's listed, doesn't mean it's a set in stone requirement, people have booted with wifi before and will again in the future, I was curious if there was a way to SSH into it or some other way to get around the error not to be lectured on what can be done or not as I already know that very well and was hoping a community like this would be inclined to do things like this not lecture others on the guidelines(yes I am aware this is harsh, it's meant to be because I have gotten this same type response multiple times)

raven forge
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Alright. Connnect your keyboard and monitor and show exactly what you see.

candid karma
raven forge
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Hmm. Without being able to execute commands we can't investigate anything.

candid karma
raven forge
#

You need a "real" PC or a USB HUB.

candid karma
#

yea pretty much sadly that would take ages and not sure if it's worth the effort, Ithought about booting up a VM on my pc and preconfiguring the files so ssh is enabled or it might work but I have my doubts about that working

raven forge
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Why not?

candid karma
rain lotus
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I've had a Home Assistant running on my Raspberry Pi for a while but lately I'm having issues with adding integrations. I get "Failed to connect" errors when trying to configure them, and I get cannot reach api.github.com ssl:default errors when trying to add repositories. I suspect that the installation might be bad, so I'm thinking about starting over from scratch. The question that I have is can I restore a backup that I've downloaded, or will that create the same issues that I have now?

raven forge
candid karma
# raven forge Why do you think it would not work as a VM?

oh my bad, not a good explanation, I was thinking of preconfiguring files in a vm and then installing on the pi but that's stupid, idk why I didn't think of this before but wouldn't it be possible to download PIOS, SSH into that instead and then install HomeAssistant on to PIOS?

raven forge
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You can install the container version of HA on pi OS.

candid karma
raven forge
#

Addons are just containers. You can create them yourself.

rain lotus
candid karma
rain lotus
#

As a bonus, that hub also provides you with Ethernet capabilities.

candid karma
raven forge
#

I can only recommend looking if you can get a used (U)SFF PC from eBay or similar.

candid karma
raven forge
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What is worth it exactly?

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If you mean the pi I don't think the pi zero is a good device.

candid karma
candid karma
raven forge
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Or you can use one PC and virtualize 🙂

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If you buy a HUB buy a powered one.

candid karma
candid karma
raven forge
#

I don't know your location but used office PCs are actually cheaper here than a pi with accessories.

candid karma
hasty owl
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currently using 12gb of memory - i rebooted this morning

raven forge
#

That's not a picture. Where did you see that exactly?
Best to use free -h to have friendlier numbers. I'd recommend glances to see what uses the memory.

feral aspen
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have finally got Homeassistant installed on a bookworm. But no web interface on :8123, and the following weird error messages appear when typing "hass" for the first time:

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2024-07-21 03:00:16.929 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.bootstrap] Setup timed out for stage 1 - moving forward
2024-07-21 03:00:24.590 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.bootstrap] Waiting on integrations to complete setup: tag, schedule, sun, input_select, input_button, timer, input_text, input_number, zone, hardware, automation, script
2024-07-21 03:06:16.956 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.bootstrap] Setup timed out for stage 2 - moving forward
2024-07-21 03:06:16.960 WARNING (MainThread) [homeassistant.bootstrap] Support for the running Python version 3.11.2 is deprecated and will be removed in Home Assistant 2024.4; Please upgrade Python to 3.12

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that "Setup timed out for stage X" sounds like it decided it took too long of a time and gave up

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any idea how to run the "hass setup" but with timeouts disabled?

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did CTRL+C and then hass again, hopefully it fetches the components that timeouted.

feral aspen
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Now it went alive, it works now... took a bit of a time now

timber lagoon
feral aspen
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seems to be crying about not finding numpy now... guess something went wrong in the initial bootstrap

timber lagoon
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I mean it says right in the log "Please upgrade Python to 3.12"....

feral aspen
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yes but bookworm does not have 3.12

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and Im using HA 2024.3.3 version for that reason

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and no, theres no later than bookworm for raspberry pi

timber lagoon
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You can get 3.12 on Debian, I have done it, but in this situation I think this is why. people prefer not to use supervised installs.

feral aspen
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got a hint on a forum to run:
python -m homeassistant --script check_config --config /home/homeassistant/.homeassistant

seems to work, its installing now..

gaunt patrol
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I currently run haos on a raspberry pi. I am want to look into my options, as I am upgrading my home network and want to run Omada software controller on the same pi. Any thoughts would be appreciated, as I am new to all of this. I want to stick with the pi for now, to keep cost down, as I spent to much on prime day sales. 😆

hasty owl
feral aspen
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SnappingNeuron: Yep, its really slow to install this on a Zero W2. Its taking its time to install "Zeroconfig" like ran for 1 hours now... but yep its a slow machine, it needs to take its time.

copper steppe
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@gaunt patrol seriously, you'd be better getting a cheap (used) SFF PC, installing proxmox, and running HAOS + Omada controller + all the things.

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Like $100 on fleabay for a 6500t-7500t machine w.16GB of ram.

feral aspen
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solved my issue. Apparently it was missing a dependency: libopenblas-dev that was not in the deps list for HA

copper steppe
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If that's true, file a bug, man

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though not if you're running <3.12 python . That could be causing it

feral aspen
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lyricz: Im using hass 2024.3.3 because thats the latest supporting <3.12 . Latest available for raspberry pi is <3.12 so it was kinda a bad movie to depreciate it since latest debian for raspberry is bookworm which has 3.11.2 as python

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It seems libopenblas-dev should be part of liblapack-dev which was successfully installed (and is part of the dependencies) but I suspect it might be something weird with the armv61 build of liblapack-dev which require libopenblas-dev aswell.

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sebastian@raspberrypi:/srv/homeassistant $ uname -a
Linux raspberrypi 6.6.31+rpt-rpi-v6 #1 Raspbian 1:6.6.31-1+rpt1 (2024-05-29) armv6l GNU/Linux
sebastian@raspberrypi:/srv/homeassistant $

raven forge
proven grove
proven grove
main gulch
#

Hi all, sorry for the newb question - I'm expanding beyond my initial HA Green that I've used for the last ~6mo and on to a much beefier N100 (dual-2.5Gbe Beelink EQ12)... planning to add Frigate, and continue AdGuard (or move to TechnitiumDNS), and possibly add OpenSense - I've read a bunch of forum posts debating HA install methods, but none are very conclusive, and they are from different time-horizons, over which it seems Proxmox and other methods have continued to improve...
TL;DR Is there a generally accepted best/good-starting-point for running HA, Frigate, TechnitiumDNS, OpenSense, Node-RED, and likely some additional things, on an N100? And beyond that, even if going with an approach like Proxmox, is there a way to decide, when there is builtin support, whether to install direct in HA via e.g. addon (Frigate, Node-RED, others) vs install "standalone" in its own container and integrate with HA?

raven forge
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Install proxmox VE and virtualize HAOS. Run as addons what you can, run as its own thing what makes sense.

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Adguard/DNS I would run on its own for example.

main gulch
# raven forge Adguard/DNS I would run on its own for example.

Can you say more about why? 🙂 Trying to develop a mental flowchart to help differentiate between "sure I could just click this in HA and it will be running in a few minutes" vs "but it will be much better if I take the time to set up in its own container because..."

raven forge
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Why running DNS on its own or what specifically?

main gulch
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Yeah, specifically curious about why DNS on its own, but then also if that helps build the mental model of how to think about other potential addons to understand where/how to "best" install them as well

raven forge
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DNS is extremely important. So much that ideally you have two DNS servers on different hosts. HAOS versions are released frequently and your addons go down with it on OS upgrades.

main gulch
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Are there any recommended "here's how I run things" docs/resources to review that are "modern" to learn from?

raven forge
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I don't have anything I can link you. Most I've seee are overly complicated.

main gulch
feral aspen
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@proven grove I are in a venv.

raven forge
wooden smelt
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Docker inside a LXC runs fine.

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I've had the same Docker LXC running since PVE 6, no issues.

raven forge
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I supppose it depends on the environment. I tested it too and encountered no issues either. I read a lot of other people's issues though and promox recommends against it as well.

umbral cairn
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Hi all, new to HA, would love some help on a error I’m faced with
Error : System is not ready with state: setup.

I’ve flashed the HAOS from rasp-imager into my SD card. Using a RPI5 with a argon v3 NVME case

Steps tried but unable to resolve after browsing HA forums and this channel

  • banner, supervisor restart, repair, reboot.

Logs also return the same error message.

gloomy orbit
steel crane
#

So. I have a really weird problem. I have been running Home assistant on a Synology DSM and it's been bulletproof. I got an out of memory error and it went down. Ok fine. Rebooted the virtual server - nope. comes up with an error once HA starts - System is not ready with state: Setup. Restored from an image that was back when I knew it was working - same error. Restored from an older image. Same error. Not sure what to try next.

steel crane
steel crane
rugged gyro
steel crane
rugged gyro
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Nice, good to hear 👍

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I've been running mine from a desktop through a VM. It's crashed multiple times and finally figured I was using the desktop more than I initially set it up to do

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I sacrificed an X1 carbon laptop and have it running home assistant through a vm and only doing that.

steel crane
#

(like literally an HPE server lol)

rugged gyro
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Very nice!

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My wife has used it more and likes the automations so I've heard, "Home Assistant is down" more times than I'd like to hear

steel crane
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But it's super weird that backups from months ago when it was working are crashing on load

rugged gyro
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I'd pay money for it to only go down once a year lol

steel crane
rugged gyro
#

I've been thinking of a small NAS to back everything up but it never fails, every time I save up some cash for goodies, something big comes up

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Latest was my wife's ac compressor going out in her car. We live in Texas so had to get it fixed asap

steel crane
rugged gyro
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I heard that cars sold up there did not have to come with ac

steel crane
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sure but on the other hand we need snow tires in the winter, and antifreeze, seasonal oil changes etc is non optional. Plus with the Miata it's just.... top down baby

steel crane
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Maybe i can figure out which update borked it too...

rugged gyro
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And then some refused to be recognized even though they had just been working

steel crane
umbral cairn
ripe saffron
#

question, this morning im not able to connect to my HA.local or by my ip address. Im able to connecet via nabu casa tho? I was told to check my LAN IP. I was reaching out on how to do that?

humble mirage
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Connect a keyboard and monitor

ripe saffron
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i can view the terminal on my nabu casa HA

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the ssh and terminal add on

empty quest
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Can go to System/Network in the UI, then where it shows ipv4 and ipv6, click the three dots and there's an IP Information menu item

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that shows the IP of the server

ripe saffron
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I see my ipv4 and ipv6. ipv6 is disabled and ipv4 is static

humble mirage
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And is that IP in the same subnet as the rest of your network - the first three sets of numbers are the same

ripe saffron
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yes it is

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it has the same subnet

empty quest
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Can you ping your lan IP from another device on the subnet? Or try a tracert?

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or conversely, from the terminal of the server try to ping out to something on that same subnet? If it's connecting to Nabu it must at least be able to reach the gateway

ripe saffron
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in the terminal

humble mirage
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ping 192.168.1.1

ripe saffron
#

seq=4 ttl=64 time=0.166 ms

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64 bytes from xxxxxx: seq=0 ttl=64 time=0.121 ms

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I am able to ping the device

empty quest
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So you can ping it from the device you are trying to access it on?

ripe saffron
empty quest
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So seems something may be blocking the request to the server on your network

olive ember
#

a running VPN on your windows ?

proven grove
ripe saffron
# empty quest So seems something may be blocking the request to the server on your network

I did add this to my ssh and terminal. I found this info on the community for HA memory free up. As i kept having frequent connection lost
`init_commands:

    if [ ! -f /backup/_swap.swap ]; then fallocate -l 2G /backup/_swap.swap &&
    mkswap /backup/_swap.swap && chmod 0600 /backup/_swap.swap && swapon
    /backup/_swap.swap && echo SWAP_NEW_FILE_CREATED_USED ; elif [[ !
    $(dmesg|grep _swap.swap) = swap\ on ]] ; then swapon /backup/_swap.swap &&
    echo SWAP_USING_OLD_FILE ; else swapoff /backup/_swap.swap && swapon
    /backup/_swap.swap && echo SWAP_FINAL_ELSE_STATEMENT ; fi`
ripe saffron
humble mirage
proven grove
humble mirage
#

That install just keeps on getting "better" and "better"

olive ember
#

Coffee ?

proven grove
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Irish coffee maybe...

ripe saffron
# proven grove Dude... that's... but WHY?!

I was having trouble keeping my HA from always loosing connection. i researched on the community forum and found that some people found that as an solution. So I tried it.

tender wren
proven grove
ripe saffron
proven grove
#

Ok. First... is the board connected via ethernet to your router or switch?

ripe saffron
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ethernet

proven grove
#

And you have the console up?

ripe saffron
proven grove
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run tail -f /config/home-assistant.log in the console. Then, in your broswer, try hitting your IPV4 address: http://[ip_address]:8123. Watch the log and see if it shows any errors. I doubt it will, but still.

ripe saffron
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'http:' is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.

proven grove
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In your browser. Not in the console.

ripe saffron
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my bad. sorry

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This site can’t be reached
homeassistant.local took too long to respond.

proven grove
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Did you try the ip address or homeassistant.local?

humble mirage
#

Also, what network device is the Zimbaboard wired into?

ripe saffron
#

same for ipadrress:8123

ripe saffron
manic bane
ripe saffron
#

it was working yesterday before i added that code to the terminal

humble mirage
#

Is there anything else wired to that deco mesh device?

ripe saffron
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my tvs are wired

humble mirage
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To that device?

ripe saffron
manic bane
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What is the ip address of the HA install

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That’s what you need

#

What you did is like saying you need to post a letter to bobs address
By writing ‘bobs address’ on the envelope

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Postie is going to look at it and be confused

ripe saffron
manic bane
ripe saffron
empty quest
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Hm, so server is on 192.168.0.0/24, but gateway is 192.168.1.1/24

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two different subnets

olive ember
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@empty quest what ?? u have a cristal ball ???

empty quest
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so a evice on the 192.168.1.0/24 network would need to have a route to get to anything on the 192.168.0.0/24 network

tender wren
humble mirage
#

So... earlier I joked that there was a wifi extender creating a separate subnet...

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Ooops

empty quest
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Thought it was mentioned his other device was a 192.168.1.x address, but I could have misinterpreted that 😮

manic bane
ripe saffron
#

would i need to change it?

proven grove
empty quest
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It depends on the network setup. Sounds like your network has two subnets, and the only way two subnets are going to talk to each other is if the router has a path between them, and if firewalls and such allow the traffic to flow back and forth.

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It may be that your mesh system splits your physical and wireless devices into two different subnets?

manic bane
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And things are plugged in randomly

ripe saffron
#

I have an at&t modem/slash router. I plugged my mesh into the modem to use the mesh network instead

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I disabled the router on the at&t modem

proven grove
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So, everything should be either on 192.168.0.0 or 192.168.1.0.

ripe saffron
olive ember
#

in windows command prompt, what do you see if you type arp -a ?
let's see what can be reached from windows then ... 😉

humble scaffoldBOT
#

@ripe saffron I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
empty quest
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So windows machine is on the .1 subnet, same as the gateway.

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You said the server's IP was statically set, so I am assuming you set it to that 192.168.0.x address by hand instead of letting DHCP dish out the IP?

olive ember
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You have only ONE machine on your network ???????

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Strange

empty quest
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this Yeah that is also odd,

ripe saffron
empty quest
#

Ok, so this is kinda implying what I was getting at earlier, it sounds like your system sets two different subnets, one for wireless devices and one for physical. If your wifi is dishing out 192.168.0.x addresses, but your windows machine (which I assume is hardwired) is getting a 192.168.1.x address that implies the physical subnet is pumping out 192.168.1.x addresses, seems like there's two different subnets with two different DHCP servers 😮

ripe saffron
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should i change it to automatic so it can change itself to the correct subnet?

humble mirage
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You should change to only have one subnet

empty quest
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Yeah either have one subnet, or you'd need to figure out how in your system to make your two subnets able to talk to eachother

ripe saffron
olive ember
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May be the DECO is creating a new subnet and performing some kind of NAT

ripe saffron
#

my only question, would be why today it stopped giving me access as previously i was just fine?

empty quest
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You set that static IP

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was it reserved in your router?

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Cuz making an IP static does not disallow it from being leased by the DHCP server

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At least not generally

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Normally you'd have to reserve that IP before making it static, so your DHCP server wouldn't try to assign it to another device when the lease expires

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It'

humble mirage
ripe saffron
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i just deleted it to see if it will create a new one automatically. Ill reserve the new one.

empty quest
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It won't reassign an IP until you set your HA server to use DHCP instead of static 😉

olive ember
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No because your HA is now( i think) using static IP 😉 too late

ripe saffron
olive ember
#

No your HA is using static. It whoult revert to dynamic. That's the goal of using STATIC .!!! ...

ripe saffron
humble mirage
#

Hopefully in all this you've also looked at your network to work out where the second subnet came from

empty quest
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Yeah would be good to get a better understanding of your network topology 🙂

olive ember
#

A laptop with ethernet cable to check all ports on all routers/switchs/deco .... just to make sure there is only one lan/network/subnet 😉

ripe saffron
#

still no access after deleting static and turning ipv4 to automatic.

olive ember
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what's the IP of HA now ?

ripe saffron
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192.168.0.170/24

olive ember
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=> your HA is not on your lan ! that's the issue.

ripe saffron
humble mirage
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You need to change the way your Deco is set up

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Right now it's creating another subnet for the wired interface

olive ember
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I think so. they must operate as "Access point", no firewall, no dns, no dhcp, nothing .... 😉

humble mirage
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If you need help with that I'd recommend you start a thread as this is taking over this channel

ripe saffron
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Local Connection lost

hexed roost
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Hi there, ive got an issue with my initial installation on a laptop via the usb flash method

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i am not very technically skilled with this but i got the Home Assistant CLI not starting message

humble mirage
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What version did you flash?

hexed roost
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The generic x86 option

humble mirage
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HAOS 12.4? Or 12.3? Or something else?

hexed roost
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12.4 my apologies

humble mirage
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Try 12.2 (or 12.3) in case the problem is with 12.4 on your hardware

hexed roost
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alright, thank you, i will try them

hexed roost
humble mirage
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Please do open an issue

buoyant grotto
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Hi folks - I'm just about to get started on a relatively simple HA deployment. I'm intending to install it on an openSuse workstation that doubles as a server for a few other things I run. My initial thought is to install via KVM; any caveats to that approach?

raven forge
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No. Works fine.

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Just make sure to use a good tool to manage the VM(s). Using libvirt CLI based stuff is kind of painful.

buoyant grotto
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Very much looking forward to the project, by the way. Just installed an ecobee thormostat, picked up some Apollo MSR-2s (2 with CO2, 2 without), and have a slew of smart bulbs.

buoyant grotto
raven forge
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Only proxmox VE but that is debian based and you probably want to keep using suse.

crude inlet
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You also need to create a bridged network adapter for the VM to use

buoyant grotto
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Currently trying Virtual Machine Manager

crude inlet
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That’s the same, yeah

buoyant grotto
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So, the docs indicate that I should be choosing "Generic Default" for the operating system, but that's not actually an option. Should I just go with Generic Linux 2022?

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I'm not getting anywhere with this...best I've got so far is a UEFI shell prompt

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My process so far:

  • Create new VM
  • Select "Import existing disk image"
  • Select the .ova
  • Under "Choose the operating system...", select Generic Linux 2022
  • Memory and CPU settings are correct by default
  • select "customize configuration before install"
  • Under "Network selection", choose Bridge device... and enter br0
  • Click Finish
  • in the config screen, set Firmware to some UEFI option (have tried several, best outcome so far is that UEFI shell when I try ovmf-x86_64-opensuse-4m-code.bin)
  • There is already a qemu-ga channel, no idea if I need to add another.
buoyant grotto
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Switched to VirtualBox, already up and running. VM is going through the Preparing Home Assistant process. 🙂

copper steppe
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Not helpful to you, but I run my stack the other way around. Proxmox natively, and things like Suse, Redhat, etc in VMs (or LXC where possible). HA one-line install via tteck script. Ditto a bunch of my other services. So much easier managing them there, rather than installing "natively" on the host OS.

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And (performance) "overhead" of LXC is negligable. Like 5%

main gulch
main gulch
copper steppe
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Nah, I used HAOS in a VM. It's just so much simpler than dealing with docker/addons yourself.

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I have a couple of apollo sensors, but hard to know how accurate they are, without an accurate comparison.

raven forge
copper steppe
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yeah, it's trivial. really it's just a process-wrapper, not full-fledged virtualisation.

proven grove
old flax
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hello
My haos is crashing, from time to time. it reboots
I've enabled debug logger, but I don't see the crash in /config/homeassistant.log nor .fault
where can I find more information?

olive ember
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hardware? ... wich kind of power supply ?

old flax
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I'm running on a raspbery pi 4 with the original power supply and a box with cooling. I pass my hand over the fan and doesn't seam hot

olive ember
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What's connected to your raspberry ?

old flax
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the ethernet cable and sonof 3.0 dongle e

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or did you mean integrations?

olive ember
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Should be fine with the power supply if nothing else is attached to it.

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Should not be a software issue... linux is quite stabe.

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what u can do is to run df -h to check diskspace

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and also check the output of command free

humble scaffoldBOT
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@old flax I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
olive ember
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That's fine

old flax
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yes, I had checked before

olive ember
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It was stable before ? it's a new problem or new installation ?

old flax
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it's a new instalation, a few weeks ago

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I think it's some integration that is causing the problem

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here are the log errors

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I just can't figure out what and how to solve it

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I can paste here the log you'd like to see in detail 🙂

olive ember
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You mean your raspberry is not rebooting, but HA ?

old flax
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I think so

olive ember
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ah ah ... 😉

old flax
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😅

olive ember
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it restart every 10 minutes or so ?

old flax
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I don't know, I can't find history that I can check

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I've enabled a lot of sensor from supervisor that were disabled, maybe next time I can get the history

olive ember
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if you check in logs in HA, you can sind your oldest message ...

old flax
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it's been up for more than an hour

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[core-ssh /]$ uptime
 11:27:05 up  1:18,  0 users,  load average: 1.00, 0.77, 0.70
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before it was up, a little bit more than a minute

humble mirage
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Did you reboot an hour and a bit ago?

old flax
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no, it rebooted by itself

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but it was a reboot, not a suddent crash, I lost access to the ui long before I lost ssh

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I was able to do a ls -las after I lost ui

humble mirage
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A whole reboot would point to host problems - power most likely

old flax
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Is there a sensor that I can set up to check that?

humble scaffoldBOT
olive ember
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journalctl -r | grep systemd | grep started may be ..??? i don't have HAOS... i cannot test it ...

old flax
# 
rpi_power_suply_status:
        unique_id: rpi_power_suply_status
        value template: "{{ states('binary_sensor.rpi_power_status') }}```
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will this keep state history?

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no journalctl

olive ember
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IF you don't suffer a huge power drop, ... IF linux flush the cache to disk... then may be 😉

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did you "login" first ?

old flax
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sorry, but I don't understand

olive ember
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i think your are currently in a docker. not at the "OS" level ....

old flax
olive ember
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in HAOS, you have a "menu" displayed by default..... If i remember...

old flax
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I installed with the raspberry pi imager

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I used to have history, now I don't...

humble mirage
humble mirage
old flax
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I've reenabled history, don't know how it was disabled

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the power supply state has been ok for the last 24 hours

# 
Logger: homeassistant
Source: components/device_tracker/legacy.py:393
First occurred: 12:04:04 (1 occurrences)
Last logged: 12:04:04

Error doing job: Task exception was never retrieved (None)
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/device_tracker/legacy.py", line 258, in _async_setup_integration
    legacy_platforms = await async_extract_config(hass, config)
                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
  File "/usr/src/homeassistant/homeassistant/components/device_tracker/legacy.py", line 393, in async_extract_config
    raise ValueError(
ValueError: Unable to determine type for devolo_home_network: None

I think the problem might be here

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I've been having problems with the devolo device integration

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I have disabled it, but I was trying to get this to work

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and I'm was in the middle of the configuration when I had to stop

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device_tracker:
  - platform: devolo_home_network
    host: 192.168.x.x
    username: admin
    password: "password"
    interval_seconds: 10
    consider_home: 180
    new_device_defaults:
      track_new_devices: true
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I will coment it until I have the time to resume an see if the crash persists

humble scaffoldBOT
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@brazen harbor I converted your message into a file since it's above 15 lines :+1:

📎 message.txt
tender wren
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The Odroid N2+ has bad power delivery on the USB ports. If something is too power hungry, the port turns off. I'd try a powered USB hub.

brazen harbor
brazen harbor
tender wren
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Maybe in the host logs shksShrug

brazen harbor
fleet musk
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I have the standard VBox image with Supervised HASS docker running running on MacOS. While Core has updated to 2024.7.3, Supervisor is stuck on 2024.06.2. No Supervisor update shows up. Does anyone know why?

raven forge
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VBox image with Supervised HASS docker
Anyone else confused by this?

raven forge
fleet musk
fair kindle
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Im trying to install home assistant in proxmox, but everytime i turn on the VM it says this "[WARN] Home Assistant CLI not starting! Jump into emergency console". I dont know how to proceed, can anyone help me?

raven forge
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Check journalctl -ru hassos-supervisor and journalctl -ru docker.service and perhaps docker logs -t -n 1000 hassio_supervisor.
I recommend you add a serial port to the VM (Hardware > Add > Serial Port) and use xterm.js (Console > Down Arrow > xterm.js) rather than noVNC so you can copy & paste.
Make sure you reboot (via PVE's Reboot button) or cold boot so the hardware change is applied. You can see it by its color.

fair kindle
copper steppe
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@fair kindle if you don't mind running third-party script, look at tteck: one line HAOS install into proxmox

raven forge
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How would that help? Maybe they already use it.

fair kindle
copper steppe
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Same error both ways @fair kindle ?

fair kindle
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could network-manager-wait-online.service having failed on startup be a part of the problem?

copper steppe
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Does your machine have access to the internet? It needs to pull docker images. Is your internet slow, or wifi, maybe?

raven forge
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Yes, I suppose it has or the script wouldn't have worked.

fair kindle
copper steppe
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Sometimes people have problems pulling the initial image.

raven forge
humble scaffoldBOT
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Please use a code share site to share code or logs, for example:

Please don't use Pastebin, since it can randomly add spaces to the main view. Please also don't share text as images since it makes it harder for people to help you. Remember that others may have colour blindness, impaired vision, etc.

fair kindle
raven forge
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Hmm. Cut off. Try the other command too.

fair kindle
raven forge
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That's more interesting and lines up with the network-manager-wait-online.service.

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Can you tell me a little bit about the networking setup of your PVE node?

fair kindle
raven forge
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In the VM's terminal via xterm.

fair kindle
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ok

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when i ping google.com it says bad address, does it say something?

raven forge
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I want the full output of all these commands please. But basically it can't resolve google.com. I'm just trying to figure out some detail about your network, what part of the networking works and whether it works with a public name server.

fair kindle
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i cant select the output i can only take a screenshot

raven forge
fair kindle
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ooh

raven forge
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Okay so nothing works. You didn't even get an ip. Perfect.

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Can you tell me how your node is connected to the network?

fair kindle
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its connected via a linux bridge

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and ens4 a slave to vmbr0

raven forge
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Can you run all of those commands on the node too? Additionally these as well

cat /etc/network/interfaces

Let's continue in the thread.

charred frost
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i migrated my HA Core from an older XCP-ng to 8.2. Unfornunately they changed the interface naming scheme so interfaces are now called enX rather that ethX, which leaves my UI not accisable. How do I from the CLI set the IPv4 for the new interface name?

humble mirage
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Presumably you're asking about HAOS?

charred frost
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@humble mirage correct.. sorry i didnt add that

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im looking at nmcli.. not familiar with that, but doing some reading. am i on the right track?

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used to set interface configuration with netplan or the old debian way

humble mirage
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Sounds right, search the channel history and you should find examples

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If not it'll be a ha host or ha network type command

charred frost
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@humble mirage cheers

weak sand
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hi, I'm trying to install like always a VM of HA on VirtualBox, but for some reason, I'm not able to do it. I can power it up but then the HAOS go into emergency mode : "Waiting for the Home Assistant CLI to be ready..." and then "[Warn] Home assistant CLI not starting ! Jump into emergency console...". I can show you the logs : https://imgur.com/a/F23l1NZ. To install it, I downloaded the .vbi file, then clicked on new on virtualbox, put linux, enable EFI, put 3 CPU, and "use an existing virtual hard disk file" where I took the .vbi file I dowloaded. Please Tell me I did something wrong...

humble mirage
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Did you follow the instructions on the HA site?

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Does the VM have internet access?

weak sand
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Double Yes !

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I put the network bridgee