community-discussion

[dusty oriole]

yep

[proud egret]

Suggestion for #archived-sensitive-topics: There's been a few folk complaining about it being for »adults«, I suggest fucking the nsfw part off (there's reddit and 4chan for the creeps), and turning it into a debate/politics channel suitable for all ages

there's maybe two or three people who have used the nsfw part, and that's just to reference something that is nsfw because they can

I don't see the benefit in hiding politics/controversial discussion from the weans just so that some people can say penis

[midnight dune]

I also don't really see how graphic nsfw imagery or conversation belongs here on this server. Topics that may be seen as nsfw such a medical procedures, historical atrocities, sex work, severe mental health problems etc. I can see fitting in well under a channel called 'serious', but anything else is just inappropriate and should be sent in private.

It's also my belief that anyone who is old enough to use discord is already old enough to start exploring and cultivating an opinion about mentioned topics

Note that I see a difference between age and maturity, while age in this case can be a prerequisite for maturity I don't see it as being a guarantee. In a similar vein, while I do think 13+ is a good age restriction for a serious channel, at some point someone who is unable to conduct themselves properly, whether 13+ or 18+ is bound to show up.

[chrome shadow]

tbh I'm a bit confused here because you've basically perfectly described what the channel is there for and what it's not there for

[midnight dune]

ok ok sorry, I guess my tl;dr would be, hey I think even the things that are within the bounds of what nsfw things are allowed can be categorised well under a different channel name

[chrome shadow]

I'm still confused because that's exactly why we asked for name suggestions in the initial announcement

[round otter]

Meiner Meinung nach haben NSFW und Politik nichts miteinander zu tun, #politics-nsfw macht keinen Sinn, ich wäre dafür #politics als eigenen Kanal zu haben damit auch Leute unter 18 Jahren and politischen Diskussionen teilnehmen können

[midnight dune]

lmao sorry I just added my support to that and what callum said

idk im sorry for not adding anything new I guess

[inland wind]

emote petition

[gaunt bridge]

Hi everyone! Thanks for having patience with us while testing a new channel, and thank you for your feedback! We have two polls that we'd like everyone to take a look at and give your votes on. You're welcome to choose multiple answers if there's more than one you'd be happy with. Of course, if you have no opinion on it, you're also welcome to ignore the polls.

Please read this announcement for more information on this new channel: <#announcements message>

[jovial zealot]

JX asks: *"Should we remove the NSFW part of the channel?"*

:one:: Yes, there should be no NSFW or age-restricted channel on the server
:two:: Yes, because you should make a new channel just for NSFW topics
:three:: No, keep it the same
:four:: No, we shouldn't have any politics or NSFW channel

JX asks: *"New channel name"*

:one:: #controversial
:two:: #sensitive-topics
:three:: #mature-topics
:four:: #serious

[midnight dune]

Could I vote multiple times for the latter

[chrome shadow]

You're welcome to choose multiple answers if there's more than one you'd be happy with.

[midnight dune]

I cant read!

Thank you though

[proud egret]

#archived-sensitive-topics message is enough reason imo :^)

[cold shell]

<@&305455824174710787> sorry, can someone check #german-only ? There's a member being a bit too disrespectful towards others

#german-only message

Starts here

[subtle patio]

I think "serious" not being followed with "topics" is somewhat more confusing

[lofty heron]

So I have a bit of a question. Is there a place where former lesson material is stored on this server? I remember Base used to do the amazing grammar lessons but I'm not sure where to look for the material other than looking back through #lessons a couple of months ago. If not would it be worth suggesting such a place in #suggestions ?

[chrome shadow]

Mh if Session Holders are fine with it and provide us with their materials we could add them to the resource list I guess

A channel doesn't make much sense imo, sooner or later stuff will be buried again just like in #lessons

[lofty heron]

Idk how Base feels about it since it's his material, but it would be a shame for it to not be used (or rather people not knowing it exists in the first place)

[balmy steppe]

Well people also chat in lessons. But if there's a channel just listing resources but no chat text, would be convenient. Not that I'm studying german or anything

[gaunt bridge]

@lofty heron It's pinned on #lessons

So far we haven't had many lessons with material (besides just reading) so I've just pinned them.

[subtle patio]

Why doth the role "Sensitive-Topics" have a hyphen in it unlike most

[balmy steppe]

Why do you feel like you need to ask?

[gaunt bridge]

What do most have?

[balmy steppe]

No hyphens

[subtle patio]

^^ Yeah no hyphens

[balmy steppe]

Feel free to ban aden

[gaunt bridge]

Oh.

@subtle patio To annoy you.

[subtle patio]

Yes!!!

[balmy steppe]

Did you read that as "Feel free to ban, aden" ? 😒

[subtle patio]

No

[fathom vector]

@subtle patio for practical reasons. Because we can't have the whitespace in channel names and it's good if the channel and the role have the same name I guess.

[subtle patio]

ooo ok thank u

[proud egret]

looking at #archived-sensitive-topics, i'd say getting the nsfw part to fuck was a success

democracy has prevailed :^)

i would like to start a witch hunt against timo though for voting against the majority

[glad fjord]

In unserer Demokratie muss jeder mit den Wölfen heulen, hier dulden wir keine Querdenker!

[silent glade]

I think this was the channel I was directed to, but I hope I’m in the right place. It’s from a few days ago but I loved the listening thing that @lofty heron did I think? Or posted at least. The link is no longer working now for me though. I don’t know if that is intentional.

[lofty heron]

Just noticed the link was set to expire after a week, sorry about that 😅 It should work again though! There might be a second one coming very shortly ™️ so keep a look out for that 🎉

Thanks for the heads up tho 👍

[weary maple]

In the explanation about Konjunktiv II, Bottfried suggests for me to search for a Konjunktiv I explanation, but when I search for it, there is none.
#botchannel message

[fathom vector]

Yeah, it happens when someone has plans to do an entry and then never does. In this case the original author of the K2 FAQ isn't even here anymore.

Just DM @nimble pebble every day until he writes one for K1.

[weary maple]

Ugh, that's frustrating... 🤦

[weary maple]

Is he one the people who contribute to the FAQ?

[fathom vector]

Weeeell, he could be if we push him a bit. 😌

[weary maple]

hehehe xD

[nimble pebble]

[wind tiger]

HI, what is the protocol for creating a new channel, I would like to propose find a study partner channel ?

I think there are a lot of people who would want this and a lot of messages get piled down related to these messages, people use other channels to ask for this. But other people looking at channels such as #writing or #beginner-german lowers the possibility of finding each other.

Would be glad if <@&305455824174710787> could look into this and give their insights.
Thank you.

[gaunt bridge]

@wind tiger It's not a bad idea. The main problem is that we tried this in the past, and it ended up just being a total copy of #introductions , so we ended up deleting it. But I have some ideas for some more useful features to solve this problem. They're just not yet confirmed or anything, but we'll let you know when we decide what we're planning to do.

[wind tiger]

yes, I thought so, it often happens, but sometimes it's beneficial too, like a lot of hackathons I have attended have this team-making channels.
I look forward to it.
(I will hop on to see how to host a lesson, hopefully there are not too many formalities)

[weary maple]

The main problem is that we tried this in the past, and it ended up just being a total copy of #introductions , so we ended up deleting it.
Another server I'm in has a good system of partnerships there. If you're seeking a partner, you have to make a detailed explanation: You need to say your timezone and the times you are usually available, the reasons you want a partner, what you want to do with your partner, and to finish, a small introduction of who you are. People seeking a partner have a role, and whenever someone posts an introduction, they ping this role to notify other people. Those questions could help someone pin down exactly who they want to practice with, and thus more people will find a good match.

[proud egret]

Would something along the lines of a study partner channel with prompts, based on partners' cefr levels, be viable?

obviously it couldn't be comprehensive, although it would be useful for inspiring learning vocab

would also benefit the fact that study partners (in my mind) would probably be short-lived, so wee discussions on set topics could help

[gaunt bridge]

My thought is something more like a bot command where it will give you a paginator list of entries, a search feature, etc. which is a lot more interactive and compact than a channel.

And some other stuff but I need to put some ideas together before I can say exactly what might work.

But things like study-partner-based events and so on would be a lot more productive, imo, than just a channel where people post their intro over and over.

[proud egret]

yeah for sure

i think keeping discussions somewhat-out-in-the-open would also be an alright suggestion, inhibit creepy dms and such like

although i like the paginator idea

[proud egret]

would also inspire usage, seeing it used

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, maybe. It's possible that once the profile feature is set up it can be integrated with that. Like people can set their profile as "seeking study partner" and then it puts them in the list or something. I mean, it will take some time and thought to put together, but this is the basic concept that I want to explore at least to start with.

[proud egret]

would that not just mostly be abstracting from the roles system, or are the profiles just a sorta »renderer« for the roles?

[gaunt bridge]

The key idea of the profile concept is so people can have info about themselves that we won't make roles for, like their country and other languages.

[proud egret]

for sure, although casual request for scotland to be presumed independent for me to use that :^)

not that i expect it to happen, but i'll ask anyway

[gaunt bridge]

😄

I'm not sure yet what countries would be added.

@fathom vector knows better about how it works than me.

[fathom vector]

I think my country criteria so far is if there's a flag for it in unicode, then it's basically a country, so you're good I guess.

[proud egret]

🏴‍☠️ is my country then

yar

[dusty oriole]

Yarrrr

[proud egret]

806177856212041739 has been consistently questionable in gen, may be bannable by the time anyone's looking

make a "joke" about gypsies, then earlier made a "joke" about muslims in germany

both posts deleted though?

[lofty heron]

many a joke to be had with this lad callum 😔

[glad fjord]

Im glad to see people filling up #pronunciation with their recordings 🥰

[fathom vector]

Session holders, if you would like to try out Discord's new Stage channel feature, feel free to ping me and we'll set it up. I'm also happy to answer any of your questions and forward any feedback you might have to the devs.

[fathom vector]

Discord's FAQ article: https://support.discord.com/hc/en-us/articles/1500005513722

[lofty heron]

I assume there's no way to have the "Show Requests" window open while being outside the stage area? That and no screenshare are the only things that I think are missing atm

but it's a nice feature for sure

[fathom vector]

Not atm, but it's definitely a good suggestion and I've added it to my feedback on the partner server.

[vagrant python]

kann man in diesem Stage Kanal nicht streamen?

[grave knot]

Not currently.

[proud egret]

ill do mine at the weekend :))

[dusty oriole]

Can I get my own special april fools role too

[fathom vector]

no

[dusty oriole]

Thanks @fathom vector , have a good day.

[fathom vector]

@lofty heron @glad fjord after some internal discussion, we have found a solution to the streaming limitation of Stage channels. From now on, the reading lessons will be hosted in Minecraft and the host will have an option of shooting arrows at participants who make mistakes. We believe that this will encourage people to put in more effort and improve. Of course, the reading server will be in hardcore, so making too many mistakes will lead to death and by extension a permanent ban. I hope your German is good enough for this, Cat. 😌

[lofty heron]

omg that's

a fantastic idea

I'm stunned by your intellect ;_;

[gaunt bridge]

I can't wait.

[lofty heron]

time to find a way to host a server for this :3

[craggy badger]

what if someone doesn’t have a minecraft account

or can’t pay for the minecraft java

[lofty heron]

😹

[craggy badger]

what

i’m just saying

[lofty heron]

😹 😹 😹 😹 😹

[craggy badger]

account for variables

@lofty heron did i say something wrong?

[vagrant python]

es ist nicht sein Ernst

[lofty heron]

@craggy badger no, I just think the date today might have a slight impact on messages you will see around the internet today

😹

[vagrant python]

aber Arrem hat bestimmt damit gerechnet und eine Alternative gefunden

[craggy badger]

wait a second

oh

shit

https://tenor.com/view/the-simpsons-homer-simpson-good-bye-bye-hide-gif-4983317

[fathom vector]

Quick question for you all, which option would you prefer for the profile command?

1. Standard command where you have a bunch of subcommands like >profile set name Arrem >profile set languages German B2, English A1 etc
2. You do >profile edit and you get a link on which you click and a website opens with all your current profile info. Then you make any changes you want, click a cool generate button, and the website generates a silly command like >profile save [a bunch of silly characters] that you then execute.

Personally, I already started with 2 and I'd like to continue in that direction but idk if it would be too complicated for inexperienced people.

Edit: Actually it turns out I pushed the site so here's a different preview.

Here you can see my old prototype for what the UI for (2) would look like. https://gladbotdev.gitlab.io/profilegen/ So far it's really just the UI, the button does nothing.
Pronouns and some other fields that people have suggested will be added, this was just a quick prototype of the UI components, but also feel free to share any cool ideas for additional fields that you might have.

[craggy badger]

personally i would prefer 2

[fathom vector]

Also since I posted an April Fools meme above, this one is an actual question for a command that we're planning to implement and not a joke.

[digital bay]

Poggers

[fathom vector]

Also if the site didn't work for you (required a login, showed 404 or such) there was a permission issue that we fixed, give it another try.

[glad fjord]

I love this

Time to live out my dream of being supreme overlordin

[lofty heron]

with a.... bow? :3

[glad fjord]

Clearly

The most supreme weapon

[lofty heron]

@fathom vector night mode for your website when?!?

😏

[gaunt bridge]

The profile feature will only be available to users who use light theme.

[lofty heron]

discrimination!

as a side question, does Discord enforce some sort of privacy policies for bots?

[gaunt bridge]

How do you mean?

[fathom vector]

They do, but it's essentially any private info that you store you must encrypt and give users the option to delete their info.

[lofty heron]

I mean in terms of: do you have restrictions about what you are allowed to store from Discord

so the regular privacy policy stuff you'd usually see on other websites as well, gotcha

[wet locust]

Can we have a cat scream emote?

[inland wind]

YES PLS

[mental pewter]

Wow was sind das für emotes XD

[chrome valley]

This profile solution number 2 is great :)
If possible, I'd add more chars for bio part. Like up to 1000-2000, so if someone wants to write a story, they can.
Mostly asking for myself, I hate twitter-like limits :) and I prefer writing full sentences

[fathom vector]

Well, 2000 is definitely a no-go because the Discord message limit is 2000 characters and you still need to encode both the bio and all the language info and such into the command. So I guess unless you were abusing it and picking tons of languages, 1900 would probably be a sane upper limit. :^)

But yeah in general, I don't mind experimenting with a slightly higher limit. Although I still wouldn't mind discouraging people from writing essays in there, since if you do, most people probably won't bother reading them.

[chrome shadow]

here is a small preview btw
<#general message>

[fathom vector]

Behehe I deleted the old CEFR emotes so that part's broken.

[chrome shadow]

well yeah but it's still nice to get a general idea of how it could look like

[craggy badger]

what

what

[digital bay]

"low key sucks at sleep" smk everyone knows Bulli hasn't slept a day in their life

Anyways, I don't think the stargazing thing works in other channels, there's been several starred messages in #archived-sensitive-topics that haven't appeared in #stargazing. Is that intentional?

[fathom vector]

Yes, #stargazing only shows messages from public channels. For private channels, it still records them, but they're only accessible when running >star recent or >star random in the channel.

[ancient light]

Huh, that's good to know.

[wicked sentinel]

Can we have some Harry Potter reading again please?

[white sparrow]

It would be great a channel where one short text is posted every week and the natives share a recording of themselves reading it. Then, in another channel the no-natives do the same in order to receive corrections, tips and so on by the natives.

<@&305455824174710787>

[glad fjord]

We have a similar set-up at the moment

There are a few texts posted into #study-tasks for the purpose of recording yourself, posting a recording into #pronunciation and being critiqued

The pinged group is pronunciation. Use >sub pronunciation in #botchannel to subscribe to the group pings

The texts appear monthly, but havent been posted in a while. There was an old one posted recently to see if the interest for the activity is still there. It seems that it is, so we should be seeing more pronunciation activities in the future

[white sparrow]

oh ok ok, maybe consider changing the name of the channels to ones a little bit more intuitive for the newbies xd

but ty, I didn't know about them

[glad fjord]

its all good, they havent been active for a long time

[glad fjord]

what would be your suggestion, the server is always open to new ones if the current names are not clear

[fathom vector]

@white sparrow do also note that it's very hard to describe the exact purpose of a channel in its name. That's why we explain what they are in #282831147942281216.

[white sparrow]

audio-of-the-month and the other audio-of-the-month-feedback

simple an let you know they're complement of each other

[normal oxide]

I personally think the channel names are very clear

[fathom vector]

Yeah but #study-tasks is also used for all kinds of other tasks that people post, including translation exercises, sometimes writing exercises and "homework" exercises accompanying lessons. And while #pronunciation is the place to post your recordings from the pronunciation task, it can also be used if you just want to record whatever you like and have people judge it. Therefore we have to keep the names general enough to describe the entire purpose of the channels.

[white sparrow]

Yep, I wrote that before checking the channels

[white sparrow]

I wrote that thinking about this suggestion

[lofty heron]

if you manage to convince someone to make a lesson about it, I don't see a reason not to have that ^.^

[weary maple]

Hey, It would be really cool if we could pin the first and second German Fluent Forever videos on #pronunciation. They have extremely useful tongue-positioning diagrams, and they already are in our resources list. https://youtu.be/mzrLZi6fipA

Many people struggle with the r, ö, and ü, and he gives some insightful tips on them also!

[lofty heron]

@fathom vector do you know if they plan to add a text channel together with the stage thing or naw?

[fathom vector]

No official confirmation yet, but the partner server where they've been asking for our feedback is full of requests for screen sharing and a chat, so I hope they'll listen.

[lofty heron]

nice thanks for the info ^.^

[glad fjord]

I support this, those videos are really helpful

[midnight dune]

I can set up a session in the future

[inland wind]

Yes please i wanna attend Hecke's sesh

[wicked sentinel]

Thank you! 😍

[glad fjord]

@lofty heron your listening tasks are really nice!! The pauses in the beginner one are really nice and make it nice and easy to shadow and practice pronunciation and intonation

I like how the advanced one follows the same major content but with a lot more happening

Got to make some new cards now, cause there were a few words i didnt know in the advanced one

(And also do the questions )

[wet locust]

But wheres our cat scream emote

[inland wind]

there's been so many emotes petitioned in the last month that have been buried

is it a sound plan to do a >suggest to create a separate #meme-lobbying channel?

[nimble pebble]

Oh, really?

Can you link me those or something? @inland wind

[inland wind]

#community-discussion message
#community-discussion message
#community-discussion message
#community-discussion message
some are more successful than others

[nimble pebble]

Oh, I see

I was surprised there weren't any suggestions anymore. Apparently I overlooked a few

[nimble pebble]

What would #meme-lobbying be for?

[inland wind]

just to keep meme suggestions clean and separate from #community-discussion , and that way people would also be more inclined to vote or suggest

[nimble pebble]

Are there meme suggestions?
Apart from some on April the 1st

[inland wind]

oh sorry not memes, emotes. my brain refuses to can today

so that would be #emote-lobbying sorry

[nimble pebble]

I mean, you can obvsly suggest anything you find useful and please do so
Just explain it as much as possible :P

lmao

No worries

[inland wind]

okay bulli 😌 i'll do that now

[nimble pebble]

Oki, that makes more sense

Sure, go ahead

Added and .
The others didn't really have many upvotes, so they were not added (yet?).
Since others might have overlooked those as I did (thanks Polpetta!), I'll link them along with pictures here:

#community-discussion message

#community-discussion message

Click the links to get to the corresponding suggestions and upvote them if you like~

(but not here, click the links )

(actually, it doesn't matter. They can be counted I guess)

[lofty heron]

you are too kind ;_;

[wet locust]

@fathom vector we need cat scream emote

Pls

[fathom vector]

Sorry oily, it has 0 updoots. 😔

[wet locust]

But but polly wanted a cat scream emote too

[inland wind]

#community-discussion message

three updoots three updoots

[fathom vector]

The profile generator site has been updated a bit. We added a way to remove languages, some fancy animations and the biography has been extended to 1024 chars (the maximum for an embed in Discord).
The generate button now also shows you what the command will look like, but the command doesn't exist in the bot yet, it's still a preview. :^) Feel free to check it out at https://gladbotdev.gitlab.io/profilegen/

Anywaay, in order to roll this thing out we need your help with some of the fields.

If you (or others you know) use neopronouns and would like to see your preferred pronouns available on the day of release, tell us what pronouns you'd like to see.

If you (or others you know) speak a German dialect that you'd like to put in your profile, again, please tell us what it is.

We realize that with pronouns and dialects it's a bit hard to cover all the possible options, so we'll be continually expanding the choices available, but to save mods the trouble of having to manually edit a bunch of profiles, please tell us your preferences now. 😩 I asked once in #dialects already and got completely ignored.

[lofty heron]

Fränkisch or bust 😠

[midnight dune]

bik lieb arrem

omg nvm your website crashed my browser

for the first time ever

[fathom vector]

All things considered, it's not even a particularly resource-heavy website compared to others that you use every day so I'm blaming the browser.

[midnight dune]

I fiddled around and the problem seems to be if I click on more than one box within 5 seconds

ill try on chrome n ff

[gaunt bridge]

What do you usually use?

[midnight dune]

hmmm happened again on chrome and ff

brave, its based on the chromium browser @gaunt bridge

just a hell of a lot faster

[gaunt bridge]

Oh I see.

[midnight dune]

the problem comes when selecting any of the boxes within 5 seconds of eachother

[fathom vector]

Idk I just added a bunch of boxes on firefox and it was fine, but yeah do tell me if you can consistently reproduce it. I could disable the silly animations if they cause issues for people, though I really don't get why they would.

[midnight dune]

no worries, I'll see what happens when I actually make my profile lmao

[inland wind]

very cool, arrem

[gaunt bridge]

What do you mean by selecting a box? Like clicking one dropdown and then another?

[midnight dune]

mhm, actually on brave and chrome I don't even have the highlighted text show up when scrolling over

I had two instances of the webpage open on one window and it ended up making button clicking on other websites similarly slow

it probably isn't such a big deal but ik you like things neat fast and clean

[inland wind]

does the function work yet?

i tried running it on botchannel and nothing hapened

[gaunt bridge]

It's not coded into the bot yet.

[inland wind]

oh okay

i was too eager

[fathom vector]

I will personally murder you for not reading the post where I specifically said it doesn't work yet.

[inland wind]

i'm sorry arrem i'm not smart 😔

[gaunt bridge]

It was nice knowing you Pol.

[fathom vector]

This is why we can't have nice things. No one reads anything.

[inland wind]

i read it but my brain refused to acknowledge it i swear

[fathom vector]

This is also why no one will read the post and on the day of release 50 natives are gonna come and say hey um my dialect isn't in there and I'm just gonna make them all wait a couple of days. 😤

[lofty heron]

not me doe dabs

[inland wind]

pls forgib

[fathom vector]

Also, Firefox handles it just fine miss ooh brave so fast oh ja ja. 😤

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, I tested it and didn't have an issue either.

[inland wind]

i guess it's not so bad to die together with hecke

[lofty heron]

no issues on my end either

[fathom vector]

Pretty sure hecke's PC is just trashed from the 5000 hours of TF2. 😔

[inland wind]

i like how you took the time to convert that into a gif arrem

[gaunt bridge]

Some things that might be cool improvements (but not required):

• check box for country of residence being the same as country of origin
• most common countries / languages being sorted near the top somehow

[fathom vector]

Yeah we can change the order however we want. (Though note that you can also just type to search) Wdym by the first point though?

[gaunt bridge]

Like instead of having to find the country in the list twice, there could be a checkbox attached to the second list, that if you select it, it greys out the dropdown and just copies the suggestion from the first one.

And true, you can type, but it's nice if like, German, English, etc. are high on the list for people to find easily.

[grave jungle]

Wie weit is das neue Profilfeature eigentlich so?

[fathom vector]

Coming along nicely. We just need to fill it with more data (see #community-discussion message) and implement the bot commands that deal with the whole thing.

[chrome valley]

Those who want to read the profile, will. Others won't, so I wouldn't worry about the part of if it's too much text for someone. 😂 Also, just because limit is high it doesn't mean everyone will use it :)

However something around 1000 should be okish IMO. You could put decent few paragraphs if you want/need.

[fathom vector]

Yeah, as indicated in the message linked above, I increased it to 1024 (which is the maximum that Discord supports in an embed field).

[chrome valley]

Yeah, I was backreading, saw it later, thanks :)

So, how do we use it?
Or without bot we cannot use it here on server but just test the site?

[fathom vector]

As also indicated in the message above it's just a preview and it's not usable yet. No one reads anything this is making me so depressed.

[inland wind]

arrem i'll be better please

[lofty heron]

I swear I read it ;_;

[fathom vector]

There I fixed it.

[lofty heron]

added a warning but not even Fränkisch for the dropdown yet, how rude, I will never read announcements ever again 😤

[chrome valley]

You wrote 'button does stuff'
So I was referring to that part
Since I saw that you also said that there's no bot

So I was wondering what is it all about, since I previously understood that you need bot for it

So it's not that we're not reading, it was just a bit confusing :p

In short, it's still a prototype :)

[fathom vector]

😤

[lofty heron]

yeeeees

https://tenor.com/view/betty-white-dab-mood-gif-5044603

[fathom vector]

Okay, fair, I updated the text a bit. :^)

[lofty heron]

will the pronouns be its own category? Wouldn't it be easier to use the free form for that?

kinda like the dialects thing as well actually :3 idk

[sage glen]

sorry lol

[fathom vector]

Well, we discussed it a bit and the conclusion was that it's best to only allow dropdowns. Because it allows for better compression so everything can fit nicely into a single discord message, encourages standardization, and doesn't let people type in stupid things like their dialect being Dutch or their pronoun being something offensive and discriminatory. Since we can't check every profile, it saves everyone some trouble if things are standardized.

[lofty heron]

their pronoun being something offensive and discriminatory

yeah ok that's a fair point

tho hateful idiots would probably still use the free form anyway 😔

[midnight dune]

its a chromium browser bitch

meaning it affects chrome too lmao

[cold shell]

Wer leitet Nachrichten von #corrections zu #writing weiter? Manchmal passiert das aber manchmal nicht

[chrome shadow]

It always says who redirected a message in the title of the embed

[cold shell]

Was ist der Befehl? Oder können nur bestimmte Leute das machen?

Denn manchmal sehe ich diese Posts im falschen Kanal und will auch helfen

[fathom vector]

Well, the thing is if we allowed regular people to delete and redirect each others' messages a lot of people would abuse it and do it for fun/to piss off others. So generally, if the command does something that affects other people, it's mod only. But as a regular user you can still point out people's mistakes.

[cold shell]

👍 🙂

[digital bay]

Fix the please

It doesn't match the others

This isn't hungarian learning and discussion smk

[fathom vector]

Technically all 3 are shit. On mobile you can really see how blurry the dots on Ä and Ü are.

[inland wind]

i can maybe try to do something about that

i'll whip something together later today

[inland wind]

how do these look

[glad fjord]

Die sehen wie süße Gesichtchen aus

[glad fjord]

[inland wind]

they do!

they're not quite as crisp as i'd like them to be, but i think they're crisp enough

i could rework the A if it looks off, i think it looks the worst among all

[glad fjord]

Maybe make a little more space between the dots and the letter

For the ö too

So when its smaller theres more definition around them

[inland wind]

yes, good shout

[inland wind]

there, looks better i think. also redid the Ä

also, worth noting that the total image size is bigger (maximum 128x128), the original ones are somehow a bit smaller (and not really consistent)

[fathom vector]

For the CEFR emotes which we use for lessons, I worked with svg files which gives the best results. Twemoji is nice enough to provide their sources.

[inland wind]

oh i've never attended the lessons, so i've never seen them

[fathom vector]

[inland wind]

ahh yeah those are crisp

but yeah you can't really get that with png files at 128x128 resolution

[tulip vale]

the two dots

[wet locust]

Pls react to this message if you want this cat scream emote

[lofty heron]

someone's desperate hm? :3

[wet locust]

Nope it got 8 votes

[lofty heron]

none of which are actual upvotes 😏

[wet locust]

[fathom vector]

Yes. It specifically has to be 👍 to count. Bulli is an idiot, he can't figure out what a positive reaction is otherwise.

[nimble pebble]

very true

We even have an emote to tell you about that

[wet locust]

[round otter]

when will we get those?

[glad fjord]

The bot has them XD

sessions

[jovial zealot]

Upcoming Sessions

:small_blue_diamond: In 1 day, 10 hours and 4 minutes (2021-04-10 at 21:00 UTC) held by Bluwuleinchen

[ID: 59] (Advancedreading)
Momo nur Deutsch Lesestunde. Dritter Teil: 13. Kapitel

Jeder ist willkommen!

Recommended level(s):

Type `>session info [ID#]` e.g. `>session info 3` for more detail about a specific session.

[glad fjord]

@round otter

[round otter]

but why don't we have them?

this is why the server is so divided!

[glad fjord]

Such injustice

I also want bonk emojis

bonk @glad fjord

[jovial zealot]

You have prescribed 289 bonks to @glad fjord.

[glad fjord]

The bot gets all the good stuff

[round otter]

Bottfried is dividing this server into humans and bots

[inland wind]

arrem also hates my effort of recreating nicer umlaut emotes

[glad fjord]

I think theyre nice

[round otter]

the Umlaute from Polp are better

[inland wind]

thank you at least someone appreciates my effort

[round otter]

I'm also for making blue to be more consistent with the other letters

[inland wind]

yes that one is also not an eszett right

[round otter]

ß

looks like eszett to me

[inland wind]

that's a beta, i believe

[round otter]

β is beta

[inland wind]

ß β

[round otter]

beta has something sticking out (which is how I learned to write eszett)

[inland wind]

lmao if you google "eszett emote" the swastika was the first on the list, wtf google

[round otter]

germany = Nazi, that's just nature

[inland wind]

ah right right, natürlich

[round otter]

maβturbieren

[inland wind]

hmm sexy eszetts

[round otter]

cum

wanna see something cursed?

capital eszett ẞ

[torn prawn]

Looks like a bird

[inland wind]

that just looks like beta lmfao

[fathom vector]

Sir, Bulli is responsible for emotes. Bully him.

[fathom vector]

We have a second private server where we just upload emotes for the bot. There's a limit on how many emotes a server can have, and uploading the CEFR emotes here would put us over that limit.

[round otter]

sad

[inland wind]

Time to boost glad to level 3

[inland wind]

Bulli why do you hate me

[nimble pebble]

Sorry, can't do anything about my feelings

Which can be described with love

[inland wind]

[nimble pebble]

Gimme a sec and I'll handle it

[weary maple]

Can I ask in #dialects about regional differences inside Hochdeutsch, rather than strictly between German dialects?

[nimble pebble]

old:
new:

Done

[lofty heron]

[nimble pebble]

Also added now, binch @wet locust

We might raise the minimum of upvotes soon, since there aren't many spots left.
We'll also have to think about when to get rid of (unused) emotes

(I'm just mentioning this, since I'd love to get rid of your suggestion, Alya. And when that time comes, I'll be laughing muhahaha)

(oki, jk)

[nimble pebble]

So you mean regiolects basically?

[fathom vector]

We're also one boost away from level 2 which gives 50 more slots, and we constantly keep hitting and losing that, so yeah. Consider boosting the server if you want to keep suggesting emoji without having existing ones removed.

[inland wind]

would be useful to have that specific emote channel now

also, thanks buwulli uwu

[nimble pebble]

That could be helpful, yeah

Np :3

[glad fjord]

I think there are a few we could consider removing

I never see these get used

Also my echidna too if we want to start getting tough

[grave knot]

That pirate has been here longer than I am.

[glad fjord]

Hmm maybe put it on the keep pile then

[nimble pebble]

[weary maple]

I do not know what a regiolect is, but yes, I think so. :)

[nimble pebble]

Yeah, you can use #dialects for that for now. I might come back to you later to tell you where to put it instead

[weary maple]

Okay, danke!

[nimble pebble]

Np. Thanks for asking to make sure~

[digital bay]

[craggy crater]

@glad fjord we cannot get rid of the pirate, because if we do we cannot form this

[glad fjord]

Its so cursed

[craggy crater]

LOL

[subtle patio]

I just checked the emoji list and came to say thanks for fixing the umlaut letter emojis 🤠 👏 😩 💯

[subtle patio]

U did it? THX :poggers:

[subtle patio]

this is what i used for my avatar before putting it into blender

[inland wind]

no problemo

[glad fjord]

@inland wind do you feel like fixing the ß

[inland wind]

👀 sure

[inland wind]

how does this look

had to use an old technique i haven't done in ages to get those curves down right

does this look more aligned?

[glad fjord]

Ooh

Would you look at that ß

Thats a massive improvement

[inland wind]

the first one was aligned using snapping so it should be 100% centred, but the sticking out bit at the bottom kind of makes the whole shape asymmetrical. I lined up the second one manually but i'm not sure which one is more centred 🤔

[digital bay]

[glad fjord]

The second one looks more centered

[inland wind]

okay one final time sorry. This time it's manually aligned and the size of the actual letter is identical to the other umlauts

i forgot to do the last one because i'm not very smart but this one should be _finalfinalfinal2 version

[fathom vector]

It's "broken" on purpose. It's really a beta as the name says, not a ß.

[glad fjord]

i like this one more

[round otter]

cum

it's perfect

[round otter]

doesn't look like β

so it's not even a beta

it's just a bad

[fathom vector]

I'll rename it to :bad: if that's better.

[round otter]

:not_beta:

[glad fjord]

Classic naming scheme

[inland wind]

Unfortunately i didn't actually name it like that, because I'm boring 😔

[round otter]

:2.png:

[digital bay]

I was the first person to say both hurensohn and sprich deutsch du hurensohn on this server. :) Please praise me

[dusty oriole]

Nein.

[oak coyote]

^

[chrome shadow]

also for both things you're a couple of years late

[grave knot]

Almost:
||The first person to say "Hurensohn" was Boringme2death on the 18th of December, 2016. They said it three times before anyone else did.||
||The first person to say "Sprich Deutsch, du Hurensohn." was Haubentaucher on the 30th of September, 2018. They said it four times before anyone else did.||

[digital bay]

Wtf it says I'm the first when I look with the search tool

Schade :/

[inland wind]

ha, get Casca'd lil

[digital bay]

Not without a movie first

Then we can do the ritual known as cascaing

Wait no

My 3stars

I can't star that message sorry polly

[oak coyote]

Where are the people with stars????

please!

[digital bay]

Hell

[oak coyote]

heaven

[inland wind]

#stargazing

[oak coyote]

wow...

[grave knot]

Mobile only shows the newest first. On desktop, did you filter by Oldest?

[digital bay]

Bruh

No

I don't have a pc

This isn't poggers

[weary maple]

So, any thoughts on this?

[kind sleet]

what's the right protocol if i want to raise a concern about something but i don't feel comfortable pinging mods publicly about it?

[grave jungle]

dm perhaps

[kind sleet]

yeah i wasn't sure if they're ok with that

[inland wind]

Definitely DM

[kind sleet]

DMs it is thanks folks

[fathom vector]

Yeah, we prefer it if you just ping @ Moderator publicly since that's the fastest way to reach a moderator, but if there's something that's best kept private, just DMing any one of us (and not all of us like some people do and then we get like 3 mods looking into the same issue ) is perfectly fine.

[kind sleet]

thank you 😌 i ended up PMing base but i think they're not back online yet, it's not urgent

[digital bay]

What happened to the new eszet emoji?

[chrome shadow]

it has been removed temporarily

[inland wind]

😔

[wicked sentinel]

Guys!! Is anyone interested in a "book-club" where we choose a book preferable of a German author, we read it in our own time (according to guidelines, for example 3 chapters per week) and once a week we meet up to discuss about these chapters in German?

[solar hedge]

Yes, I am

We've only ever had live reading sessions here. They are very nice but sometimes a little too fast paced. You could learn a whole lot out of a good reading session on your own time and then discuss in German (something prepared or a impromptu analysis or discussion?). So I'm all for it

[glad fjord]

Yes yes yes! I am very keen for this idea!

[warped talon]

Ja! Sounds so good! 💯

[wicked sentinel]

Great!! We need a few more people and then we can ping a Moderator to help us with it. (Meaning, maybe create a channel specifically for this cause, etc)
And then we can start by picking a book.

But firstly we need more people

[glad fjord]

You can use the #lessons channel for meetings and you can use the sessions system for setting up the meetings, setting the chapters etc

Like this system with the bot:

sessions

[jovial zealot]

Upcoming Sessions

:small_blue_diamond: In 3 days, 10 hours and 25 minutes (2021-04-17 at 21:00 UTC) held by Bluwuleinchen

[ID: 60] (Advancedreading)
Momo nur Deutsch Lesestunde: 14. Kapitel

Jeder ist willkommen!

Recommended level(s):

Type `>session info [ID#]` e.g. `>session info 3` for more detail about a specific session.

[glad fjord]

Theres an info section too

session info 59

[jovial zealot]

3 days, 13 hours and 35 minutes ago - (Advancedreading) held by Bluwuleinchen

Recommended Level(s)

Recommended level(s):

Session Description

Momo nur Deutsch Lesestunde. Dritter Teil: 13. Kapitel

Jeder ist willkommen!

Posted 5 days, 2 hours and 37 minutes ago

Hallo ihr fleißige Leseratten!!

Dieses Wochenende wird wieder mal gelesen! 🐢📖⏰

Herzlichen Glückwunsch! 🥳 wir haben endlich den dritten, und auch den letzten Teil des Buches erreicht! Das sind rund 130 Seiten, was tatsächlich die größte Menge Seiten aus einem einzelnen Roman, die jemals in GLaD vorgelesen wurde, ist!

Wann: 10. April 21:00 UTC
Was: Aus dem Buch Momo vorlesen, die Handlung in eigenen Worten zusammenfassen, neue Wörter besprechen.

Wenn ihr Vorlesen wollt, könntet ihr bitte mal ein V vor eure Namen hinschreiben.
Und wenn ihr nur zuhören wollte, dann bitte ein Z hinschreiben.

Ich freue mich darauf, euch zu hören!!

Posted 3 days, 14 hours and 1 minute ago

Wir fangen mit dem Vorlesen in etwa eine halbe Stunde an

Posted 3 days, 13 hours and 32 minutes ago

Okay Los gehts!

Type `>session list` to see a list of all sessions.

[glad fjord]

And maybe ping reading or Advancedreading

[wicked sentinel]

@glad fjord Thanks!
I am not sure though if these channels are correct though.
It is definitely not a lesson.
And we need a channel to at least discuss which book we want to read and vote.

I believe that we need more than 4 people

[fathom vector]

We can always open the (Advanced-)Reading group's text channel when necessary.

[glad fjord]

Yeah i forgot about that

Each group has a text channel, and we can open one up to people with that role

group start reading

[jovial zealot]

Started a session for Reading!

[lofty heron]

a book club is going to be difficult to maintain, but best of luck to all who want to make it happen 😊

[tiny jetty]

i read 1984 and after that i turned to a pro-authoritarian for 1 year.

i guess that book is cursed with your sight.

[nimble pebble]

Hey, took a bit, but done now~
Thanks for the suggestion

[midnight dune]

PF WHAT

[inland wind]

we need more ways to express joy because i am emotionally void irl so we need this emote pls it will complete me

[crude steppe]

How do I vote

[inland wind]

just reacc it

arrem 😠

[flat gulch]

can we have a dedicated german memes channel

[cold shell]

#suggestions

[chrome shadow]

#suggestions message

[flat gulch]

aww :'(

but thanks for the reply

[glacial scaffold]

Hi, I'm trying to gather people to play codenames (the context is here: <#general message>).

What's the best way to gather people for events like that.
Have no idea whether it's a good idea but it sounds like it is. :)

[gaunt bridge]

The best way is to use the session system (the one people use for lessons). We have an activity group which can be pinged for something like this. You just need to let a mod know about it and we can discuss the details.

Right now I can't since I'm busy but maybe another mod or session holder can explain how it works.

[glacial scaffold]

Yeah that's not urgent, thanks!

[vagrant python]

wie viele Plätze für Emojis haben wir übrig?

[chrome shadow]

Aktuell 4 wobei sicherlich noch einige entfernt werden können

[vagrant python]

kann weg

was ist das überhaupt

ach so, ich erinnere mich jetzt an heckes Liebe für Füße.

[craggy crater]

hahaha, please don't get rid of it

[glacial scaffold]

Actually in the other German learning discord server it was much easier to gather people for codenames.
I guess this server is just too big to have announcements noticeable, too many things going on at once.

[chrome shadow]

well that's why the session system exists if you're still interested in organising it we can work something out later

[gaunt bridge]

Oh yeah, sorry, I forgot to check back on your post the other day crem.

But it sounds like a cool idea and we can totally make it happen. Do you have a day and time you're thinking of?

And can you explain more about how the game works?

[glacial scaffold]

There are two variants, classic and "duo".
Classic: 2 teams, at least 4 players, best played when there are at least 6 because then it includes discussion.
Duo: 1 team, at least 2 players, but with 4 it's again better because it's not only vocabulary but also discussion.

I think it's faster to watch the 3 minute rules video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zQVHkl8oQEU to get the rules, but I can also explain it there.

There are many implementations of this game online, and apparently there's also the official one (still totally free): https://codenames.game

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, I know the original game. I just wasn't sure if there's anything special about the version you want to play here.

[glacial scaffold]

No, it's just the standard game, it just felt that it's an easy way to get conversation in a foreign language. Not very demanding, probably A2 level+dictionary in a separate tab is good enough.

[gaunt bridge]

Yeah, for sure. That's totally fine.

Let us know what time and day you want to run it (whenever you decide that) and one of us can walk you through how to announce it.

[subtle patio]

is there a faq for #sensitive-topics

[chrome shadow]

faqs are usually only related to learning topics, what purpose would such a faq serve ?

[subtle patio]

just to quickly relay an official word on "no politics outside #sensitive-topics" since i'd rather not write out my own explanation to be as consistent as possible, although possibly directing people to rule 4 works for that

[chrome shadow]

purpose #archived-sensitive-topics

[jovial zealot]

Information about sensitive-topics

sensitive-topics

This role gives you access to the #archived-sensitive-topics channel where you can discuss adult and political topics within limits. This is an off-topic channel and not directly related to learning German.
Be sure to read and follow the channel's [guidelines](#archived-sensitive-topics message).

Enter >sub politics-nsfw in #botchannel to get access to this channel.

[chrome shadow]

uhm

okay

ah there we go

there's also this ^

[subtle patio]

ah i have to be subbed to use this

but yeah looks like the message hasn't been updated for the new channel name

[chrome shadow]

nah the >purpose command works for every role and channel no matter if you have access to it or not

and yeah I'll update the name, thanks

[subtle patio]

i mean in theory it works, but i would need to grab the ID of the channel, can't just type ">purpose #sensitive-topics"

for someone who is subbed is seems like typing the same thing turns it into a channel mention

[chrome shadow]

you don't have to mention the channel you can simply do >purpose sensitive-topics

[subtle patio]

oh i see

[cold shell]

@dusty oriole dude I denied your friendship request twice already can you please stop. I'm not interested. I don't even know who you are.

[vagrant python]

emote Vorschlag:

:thonkflat:

[pseudo sleet]

emote Vorschlag: :snaksnakelolelol:

[rare drift]

Emote Vorschlag!

:wug:

[digital bay]

What happens if there are two?

Emote Vorschlag, which is my fish. Will Samantha be the Talk of the town find out sunday's at 9 on FOX

[nimble pebble]

two?

[digital bay]

Two wug things

It a meme

[proud egret]

@nimble pebble please implement a bonk leaderboard

i want to know who has given and received the most bonks

specifically who, out of myself and alya, has prescribed the other more bonks

[nimble pebble]

Do you wanna guess?

[lofty heron]

pretty sure that's Alya

[proud egret]

i dunno, she might have >bonk'd me more, but i usually get luckier with the actually number of bonkings

[lofty heron]

idk man, Alya bonks everyone all the time, she's quite skilled at typing

[nimble pebble]

Oh, so you want the number

Alya initiated 7 bonks at you

and you initiated 4 alya bonks

[grave knot]

Imagine getting bonked by Alya.

@wet locust I love you so much.

[wet locust]

bonk @lofty heron

[jovial zealot]

You have prescribed 489 bonks to @lofty heron.

[wet locust]

Ilytoo

[glad fjord]

bonk @wet locust

[jovial zealot]

@wet locust disarms you and gives you a taste of your own medicine. Serves you right.

[glad fjord]

Rip

[midnight dune]

Can't bonk the alyonk

[glad fjord]

bonk @midnight dune

[jovial zealot]

@midnight dune disarms you and gives you a taste of your own medicine. Serves you right.

[glad fjord]

RIP

Was sind die Chancen ein Hundert zu eins

[midnight dune]

[subtle patio]

probably 1 in 25

[grave knot]

Spoken like someone who disarmed himself twice.

[subtle patio]

that's me

saw the code somewhere and once is one in five

[jovial zealot]

@ember tide, your message has been redirected here from #writing:

CarsonBoBarson

Redirected by JX

is there ever an answer key to the posted grammar questions?

May 2, 2021, 1:15 AM

[gaunt bridge]

@vagrant python

[fathom vector]

In Pferd's absence, I assume it would defeat the purpose to just post them immediately so you might have to wait a bit. But as the post in #study-tasks says, you should give it a try and post your attempt in #writing.

[vagrant python]

@ember tide ich kann das am Ende des Monats zur Verfügung stellen, wenn ihr wollt.

[subtle patio]

I never saw this until now but can I just say I really appreciate you

[jovial zealot]

<@&526087868079144961>

:loudspeaker: BlueBottletop issued a ping for Reading

Hi everyone!
I have holidays coming up and i was wondering if people were interested in a more beginner focused reading session.
It'll be a similar format the the advanced reading sessions, but run in English.

regarding the start date, i was thinking the weekend of the 15th April.

Below will be a vote for the time of this session. As well as a vote for the book.

Ill post more information below.

[glad fjord]

The session idea is to take turns reading from German text and then explain what you understood.

The explanation can be in english or german.
and the reading part will focus on pronunciation more than comprehension.

[restive willow]

Did it already happen? Bc it's May, or will there be more? I'm interested

[glad fjord]

__

TIME VOTE

all times given in UTC

1: 6
2: 7
3: 10
4: 11
5: 22
6: 23
7: 21
8: suggested by you guys

---

DAY VOTE

1: Friday
2: Sunday
3: suggested by you guys

---

BOOK VOTE

1: Der kleine Prinz (The little prince)
2: Schachnovelle (Chess novelle) (very hard)
3: Der gestiefelte Kater (Puss in boots)
4: Your suggestions

[wicked sentinel]

We don't have hour 20 because advanced reading is at the same hour?

[glad fjord]

sorry i forgot what month it is, this is yet to happen

[sweet beacon]

time is an illusion

[glad fjord]

reading is at 21 i think

[restive willow]

Ooohhhh oki

[glad fjord]

20 is too early for me, thats why its not there

[wicked sentinel]

Oh ok

[glad fjord]

i added 21 to the list eitherway

[wind tiger]

I hope people are not choosing The Little Prince because it has a good name :(.
I tried reading it in English and my head started spinning, it's like Alice in Wonderland..

@glad fjord my suggestion is Der Gestiefelte Kater (Puss in Boots)

[glad fjord]

yeah its also not a particularly easy book, but it easier than Schachnovelle

[glad fjord]

ill add it to the list

@wind tiger its added under option three

[wind tiger]

@glad fjord thanks ^^

[silent glade]

Will you ping us when you’ve decided when it will be? I’m not sure whether I meet the required German level, but I’d like to give it a try if it’s at a time I can.

[glad fjord]

i will most likely ping the whole Reading group

[silent glade]

Okay, thank you!

[glad fjord]

its minimum requirement is know pronunciation rules, so you should be sweet

[silent glade]

Okay, I should be able to do that most of the time then

[wicked sentinel]

Personally, I didn't choose Little Prince for the good name but because I own the book and it seemed easy to me.
Furthermore, from my experience so far, I believe that a translated book is easier than a book in the original language. (I would prefer an original German book, but maybe it is better to start from here :( )

[wind tiger]

I meant the story line, there are some people who like that kind of story line, Disney made a movie out of Alice in Wonderland, but it is just mentally difficult to go deep inside the author's mind, it's like a maze which I don't want to avoid as best as possible.
But, unfortunately as of this moment, it is the most voted one, so let's see, looks like we will be reading the little Prince.

[glad fjord]

We can read puss in boots afterwards or as a little warm up before since it’s quite short too

[wind tiger]

Klar, danke ^^

[carmine rover]

I'd love for an additional more beginner-focused session. It turns out that the ability to read & analyze novel material at the same time goes right out the window when you're nervous.

Is it suggested to read the chapter ahead of time?

[glad fjord]

For the advanced reading? You can if you want, or you can go through it again later

There’s a copy of Momo pined in #lessons

For this coming session you dont need much experience, the description is very optional and can be in English if you want

[carmine rover]

Yeah, I found it was much easier to read & digest the material at my leisure afterward, but wasn't sure if that was recommended practice or not. I suppose it depends upon one's individual level.

[glad fjord]

That’s true, as a heads up some of the regulars have already read the chapter/book and I’ve already read it too. It’s a very beautiful book, it’s challenging in the B levels but also quite manageable

[velvet mist]

Discord tells me someone has mentioned my name here, but i'm not able to find it???

[carmine rover]

Likely the reading channel tag earlier

[glad fjord]

I pinged the reading group

[velvet mist]

ohhhh ok

thanks

[dusty oriole]

If we never read Schachnovelle, I would like to read the book. if that is possible

[wicked sentinel]

Great book. It is even better if you are a chess player :)

[proud egret]

can we bring back the ratwas emote?

[weary maple]

Can we do something about the people who just say "hallo", "wie geht's", or "hi" in totally unrelated channels and give no further explanation or follow up? Or, better, does the moderation team already has a policy regarding this, like deleting or redirecting those kind of messages?

[gaunt bridge]

In which channels?

[weary maple]

I have some channels muted, but it happens mostly in #questions, #questions-2, and sometimes #pronunciation and #archived-culture-study-visa. And even then, it's not that they want to ask a question and start it with a hello, they just don't give any follow up.
But if you're asking for examples, there are two in the last two channels I've mentioned.

[gaunt bridge]

It's kinda difficult for us to moderate stuff like that in discussion-based channels. I think it would come across as too strict/hostile to aggressively delete messages just because someone didn't follow up right away. Maybe the person was busy and had to leave, and then they come back and their message is deleted. They might feel like they're not welcome here.

We do moderate this stuff in places like #writing and so on.

Off-topic stuff is moderated too, in places like #questions , if it turns into a discussion. But if it's literally just "hello" then most likely it will just get buried and that will be it.

[weary maple]

Those are some really good points actually. Thanks for the feedback.

[gaunt bridge]

No problem.

[nocturne swallow]

Hallo

[faint aspen]

We need floppa emojis

[vast badge]

Yes

[terse solar]

quick question, what should I do if I want to host a lesson session? is there a process for it?

[round otter]

@dusty oriole sending some hitlerious videos in my DM, please ban lol

[fathom vector]

Well, give us a short description of what you'd like to do (and ideally which group you're targeting) and we'll do our best to support you. @terse solar

[gaunt bridge]

Thanks for the report but make sure to ping mod tag when reporting so we see it.

[round otter]

I already saw that arrem was here so pinging mods would've been just an annoyance

[gaunt bridge]

Nuh, it's not an annoyance.

[jovial zealot]

<@&526087868079144961>

:loudspeaker: BlueBottletop issued a ping for Reading

Hey guys the votes are in:
Book: the little prince
Day: Sundays
Time: 11 UTC

So i will hold the first session on the 16th May at 11 UTC
And they will be run every Sunday at 11am until the book is finished

[zealous stump]

Pog

[gleaming viper]

Whoo

[inland wind]

I will be there!

[carmine rover]

Boy, 7 AM will sure be a fun goal time to get up. Alarms will be set.

[glad fjord]

Ikr i do this every week for the advanced reading group

Time zones are bad

[silk willow]

:(

Im so sad this is at 7am for me

Those who do attend though, i hope you all enjoy

[twin depot]

same

i'll make the effort tho

i love this book

[silk willow]

Thats motivation

💪 good on you

[glad fjord]

[carmine rover]

I do feel bad for those in NA, not on the east coast. That's even rougher.

[silk willow]

Those directions are confusing

Like where?

[carmine rover]

CST, PST, etc.

[silk willow]

Oh ok

Yea 😔

More reading sessions

[vapid quail]

Hope I can be there I love the book

[glad fjord]

Well see how long it goes for, if its <= 2hrs then i can maybe move it back an hour later

[gaunt bridge]

Usually sessions are held at times good for US and Europe people, but Bluwu is in Australian time zone. It's hard for us people in Australia to accommodate both US and Europe while also finding a time that works for us. And we're usually the ones that miss out when other people hold sessions.

[inland wind]

Oceanian and Asian timezones unite against the west

[carmine rover]

Hey, I'm just glad y'all are running these. I'll set an alarm for the deepest hours of the night if it's what's required.

[silent glade]

How long are the sessions likely to last? I’m slightly worried it will run into lunch, but otherwise it works well for me.

[glad fjord]

Between 1-2 hrs

Usually on the longer side

[brazen notch]

until what page should we read for the first sesh ?

[glad fjord]

Hmm not sure, i dont know what Tempo well be going at

[lofty cove]

7AM wooooo

Is this book easier than Momo?

[glad fjord]

Hopefully, i believe it is but im also not the most familiar with it

[brazen notch]

oh so people read during the session i see, thought it was only to talk about / analyse the unknown words etc

[glad fjord]

Yeah well go around the circle and read, but all of those other parts will happen too hopefully

Id like the read the first three chapters

[brazen notch]

yes thanks for those organizing, it‘s rly cool of you to provide ur help/ time

[craggy crater]

I won't attend, as that is way too early for me and I might be working at that time anyway.

[balmy steppe]

Not necessarily.

[distant ice]

My sleep cycle is a mess anyways

[dusty oriole]

6:00 am for me, that is to early. If an one wants to start a reading session for North America, I'm in.

[craggy crater]

Same. It's a bit sad about the lack of NA mods and stuff, but it makes sense I guess.

[gaunt bridge]

Session holders. Since sessions aren't a mod thing.

[craggy crater]

No, I meant what I said

Session holders would be nice too, though

[gaunt bridge]

Oh okay, sorry, I thought you were adding onto the ongoing discussion about sessions. It came across as "yeah, I'm interested in an NA Session but there's no NA mods".

[craggy crater]

I meant to but expressed it poorly and then mixed it with something vaguely related, sorry Base.

[balmy steppe]

I've hosted readings and group video views 👀

I'm a North American, and my name is Traximilian

[digital bay]

Emoji! Make it happen

[vagrant python]

was soll es sein?

[dusty oriole]

Ich weiß es nicht, Pferd.

Schaut jedoch nicht sehr Serverbezogen aus

[nimble pebble]

Nicht so serverbezogen wie die ganzen anderen Emotes?

[dusty oriole]

Scheint mir so ja

[nimble pebble]

Was ist denn an serverbezogen?

[dusty oriole]

Das ist dein Gesicht Bulli

[nimble pebble]

Ah, ach so

[dusty oriole]

← der emote ist sowieso einer der besten

[weary maple]

Hey, I think it would be very cool to add a "conversation" section to the resources list. To add things like "how to be polite in German", "how to order in a restaurant", "how to introduce yourself", or guides to useful expressions, idioms, and any other things to help improve your conversation skills and overall cultural awareness when interacting with other people in German.

[gaunt bridge]

We usually just add new sections based on what resources are added. So the best thing to do is to suggest resources, and then we'll add sections as needed.

[weary maple]

Cool! :)

[little lodge]

I'm really looking forward to the beginner lessons! Is it ok for me to miss the first one? I won't be at home then, but planning to join the week afterwards 🙂

[grave knot]

Yes, that shouldn't be an issue. ^^

[little lodge]

Thank you!

[silent glade]

I’m so looking forward to them too!

[barren sage]

I'd also quite like to join to assist with translations and explanations, if possible?

[glad fjord]

Yes please!

Das wäre wirklich hilfsreich!

[barren sage]

Ich helfe dir und allen anderen natürlich auch gerne!

[daring crow]

Ich freue mich auch auf diese Sessions.

[maiden horizon]

Ich freue mich auch

[digital bay]

What are y'all planning to do with the new update for stickers

[fathom vector]

Atm, nothing.

[digital bay]

Cringe

[balmy steppe]

Why is the bot muted in vc?

[gaunt bridge]

You mean deafened?

[balmy steppe]

I'll pay attention more next time to see what it is.

Deafened makes sense

[gaunt bridge]

If you just mean the thing next to the name in VC then yes, it's deafened.

[neat rivet]

Aeo guys, ich wollte dieses Buch hier: Die Stadt der träumenden Bücher empfehlen. Es ist doch lang, 590 Seiten. Vorerst ist es meine Empfehlung für das nächste Buch! Ich habe schon die ePub Datei

[glad fjord]

ohh es klingt bezaubernd

es schreibe ich auf meine to read Liste

[brazen notch]

Halloo meine empfehlung ist GRIMMS MÄRCHEN. Immer interessant und kulturell wichtig (; es gibt fast 1000 zeiten im Buch (mit illustrationen) aber wir sollten nicht alles lesen. Die Kindl version is wenig als €1

https://www.amazon.de/-/en/Jacob-Grimm/dp/3730602047/ref=mp_s_a_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=grimm-bruder&qid=1621429010&sr=8-1

[neat rivet]

Sieht toll aus. Wir könnten jeden Tag ein Märchen lesen, und damit wäre es den Neulingen einfacher mitzuhalten.

Nicht jeder Tag, sondern Lesson*

Solange niemand ein Kind ist

lol

[glad fjord]

Hmm ich hab’s schon einmal versucht, einige Geschichte aus diesem Buch in Lessons zu lesen, die waren aber sehr schwer wegen der älteren Sprache

Ich fühlte mich damals wieder wie ne Anfängerin, da ich aber ständig Wörter nachschlagen musste

[brazen notch]

schade ;((

es gibt ein paar websites mit Übersetzungen

https://www.grimmstories.com/language.php?grimm=089&l=en&r=de

[brazen notch]

[craggy crater]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/415249833461415936/844611064251285504/flushed_bread.png

emote suggestion

[dusty oriole]

emote suggestion?

[vagrant python]

es wäre besser wenn der Hintergrund entfernt wurde und das Haar nicht abgeschnitten wurde

[inland wind]

this emote for next week's #archived-emote-suggestions pls and name it :antibroob:

[inland wind]

name this one :antibroob2:

and one more

[craggy crater]

@rapid urchin here is fine too

[rapid urchin]

what's the art channel

[craggy crater]

sub #arts-and-crafts

[jovial zealot]

:x: Group #arts-and-crafts not found.
Try >groups to see a list of all groups or >group joinall to join all available groups.

[craggy crater]

groups

[jovial zealot]

These groups are currently accessible

Art

A group for sharing self-made art.

Sensitive-Topics

A group for political and adult topics. Be sure to read and follow the [guidelines](#archived-sensitive-topics message).

Type >sub to join a group or >group joinall to join all available groups .

[subtle patio]

oh

i like the last one but if i keep streaming flight sim it could be used against me

[nimble pebble]

I just made some names up for the ones that didn't have one set, so feel free to suggest other names if you don't like the current ones

[vagrant python]

[fathom vector]

How tf did you scale that down. The original drawing is a bit pencil-like but that looks too jagged not to be nearest-neighbor downscaling.

[nimble pebble]

Wait, so it looks bad?

Damn

I'm always like 'oki, this is so easy. I'll just do it myself. What could possibly go wrong?'

and then something goes always wrong

I just used paint

I looked at its size

and since all the suggestions were squares, but this one 293 x 293 instead of 128 x 128,

I changed that to 128 x 128 as well

via paint resize option

[weary maple]

@nimble pebble If you want, I can do it on Photoshop, it looks waaay better than paint.

[nimble pebble]

I'll take any improvement I can get

[weary maple]

Also I can change the background to transparent, as Pferd suggested.

[nimble pebble]

Just didn't wanna post it much larger than the rest

That would be awesome

Cause I surely can't do that

If you do, just ping me and I'll replace it and ask the one who suggested if it's fine

Or we can ask now if that is fine

@dusty oriole

Well, whenever they see this!

[nimble pebble]

Would you be ok with this, Lydian?

[weary maple]

@nimble pebble And I'm assuming you scaled it down because of size, right? Do you remember the minimum size for emoji images, in KB?

Nevermind, got it :)

[fathom vector]

He probably just scaled it down because he's silly. 256KB though for future reference.

[nimble pebble]

[nimble pebble]

This is why

But I could revert that change

[weary maple]

Original size, without background (it's below 256KB, btw):

Scaled down, without background

@nimble pebble

[nimble pebble]

Thanks a lot!

[weary maple]

Dankeschön!

[nimble pebble]

Meinst du 'Bitte schön!'? :D

[weary maple]

🤦 Yes, Bitte schön. Sorry, I'm too accustomed to saying thanks here. 😁

[nimble pebble]

Kein Problem!

[balmy steppe]

Tip: use either Dankebitteschön, or Bittedankeschön

[round otter]

just use "Bitte" for both

[subtle patio]

looks like discord already does it for you right?

i'm seeing for myself that it does resize to the same dimensions

[fathom vector]

It does, but it won't let you upload emoji bigger than 256KB which is an absurd size so you often have to downscale yourself. Especially if you're uploading a gif, those are horrible. 😩

I think took like 5 compressions and crops and quality reductions to get it under 256.

[subtle patio]

oh i see

[nimble pebble]

Looks like it ^^

[round otter]

didn't the moon landing take less than 256KB?

[brazen notch]

Empfehlung

[glad fjord]

Wovon handelt das Buch?

Ich hab eine kürzere Zusammenfassung gefunden, es klingt ja hmmm angespannt und etwas anspruchsvoll

Und der Stil der Erzählerin scheint mir auch interessant, sind die Satzzeichen wirklich so spärlich verstreut wie „ohne abzusetzen“ vermuten lässt?

Ich müsste es erstmal selbst lesen, bevor es in der Leserunde auftauchen kann

[brazen notch]

Ich habe es nicht gelesen aber hier ist eine Zusammenfassung:

Angespannt wartet die Familie am gedeckten Tisch auf den Vater. Mutter, Tochter und Sohn sitzen vor einem Berg Muscheln, die allein das Oberhaupt der Familie gerne isst. Um die zähe Wartezeit zu überbrücken, beginnen sie miteinander zu reden. Je mehr sich der Vater verspätet, desto offener wird das Gespräch, desto umbarmherziger der Blick auf den autoritären Patriarchen und desto tiefer der Riss, der die scheinbare Familienidylle schließlich zu zerstören droht.

Ich habe es in diese liste gefunden:

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.dw.com/en/top-stories/100-must-reads/s-43415865

Hier ist eine video Zusammenfassung:

https://www.dw.com/en/dw-book-expert-david-levitz-on-the-mussel-feast-by-birgit-vanderbeke/av-45307723

[vagrant python]

emote Vorschlag:

[grave knot]

I get Zoop-vibes.

[open ridge]

You mom's hand landing on your ass is not gonna take even 256 bytes

[open ridge]

So how do we handle trolls? 🙄

[grave knot]

I mean, 256 bytes isn't a lot. Even your comment takes up more. ^^

[round otter]

we were talking about 256 000 bites

kilo = 1000

[vagrant python]

emote Vorschlag für @static dove

[craggy crater]

awwwww

Ich liebe es

[static dove]

um

that is irrevocably cursed

[craggy crater]

the nose is so funny

[static dove]

i love it

[craggy crater]

it has two mouths

[static dove]

relatable

[thin flume]

Mit einer Träne

[pseudo sleet]

danke, dass ihr mein herziges doppelbienchen geaddet habt.

[open ridge]

Wassup meta dungwon crawling centipedes

[open ridge]

#suggestions new emote :concernedpoop:

[inland wind]

new emote :nice:

[digital bay]

EMOJI :\bruh:

[nimble pebble]

Fisch

[oak coyote]

Big Fisch

[craggy crater]

Mega Fisch

[open ridge]

Sad Fisch

[small lily]

der fisch

[inland wind]

emote suggestion

[craggy crater]

i lov

[inland wind]

name it :yeszett:

[round otter]

:bestzett:

[midnight dune]

fuck no

[inland wind]

I hate it too hecke

[craggy crater]

Emote suggestion. The name is up for suggestions

[inland wind]

:maple_farts:

[craggy crater]

NOOOO

[subtle patio]

Guys CHILL

[inland wind]

Why did you 🤮 my yeszett

[lofty heron]

Time for a glorious emote suggestion!!

[craggy crater]

yes

[jovial zealot]

<@&581851964007251968>

:loudspeaker: BlueBottletop issued a ping for AdvancedReading

Ein liebes Hallo an alle meine schönen Mitleser!

Lasst uns feiern, denn wir haben es tatsächlich geschafft, wir haben ein ganzes Buch fertig vorgelesen! 🥳 🎊
Wenn das keine Glückwünsche verdient, dann so fresse ich einen Besen.

Ich wollte mich erstmal bei euch allen bedanken, dass ihr jede Woche zu jeder noch so lächerlichen Zeit, die ich ausgewählt habe, gekommen seid. Also Danke! Ohne euch gäbe es keine Lese-Runde!

Und als zweitens möchte ich ankündigen, dass ich bei den Fortgeschrittenen Sessions eine Pause einlegen werde.

Zu einem späteren Zeitpunkt werden wir uns ein neues Buch aussuchen können, aber bis dahin wünsche ich euch eine schöne Pause! und kommt doch mal bei den Anfänger-sessions vorbei!

[glad fjord]

danke euch!

[gaunt bridge]

Thank you for hosting the sessions, Bluwu!!!!! You're amazing and we all love and appreciate you so much. 🫂

Sorry I didn't attend those but maybe in future.

[silent glade]

Thank you @glad fjord!!!!!

[solar hedge]

Yes! Thanks a lot Bluwu! Those sessions were really something! Looking forward to the next book already😬 😬

[thorny iron]

nice job with the new channel arrem

buttons look so good

[open ridge]

@fathom vector WHAT HAVE YOUUU DONNEEEEEEE

ITS AMAZIG

_

[fathom vector]

Thanks we love youuu.

[zealous stump]

🤍

[oak coyote]

IT LOOKS SOOO GOOOOOD @fathom vector

[inland wind]

and... why is it posted in this channel?

[stark edge]

Where else should put it?

[inland wind]

#archived-media maybe?

[stark edge]

Ok

[weary maple]

@nimble pebble By the way, if you remove the "add reactions" permission from #archived-emote-suggestions, people can still react to the message, but only with the emojis that mods have added. So if a mod reacts with "👍", people can still add their reactions to it, but not new emojis.

[nimble pebble]

Thanks for the info! I mean I don't really care, but it might look clearer and I'll consider it the next time ^^

@weary maple

[weary maple]

Bitte! :)

[silk willow]

Where is the button

@fathom vector

[fathom vector]

As of today, a new button has been added to the #282831147942281216 channel

[craggy crater]

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikea.com%2Fus%2Fen%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2Fblahaj-soft-toy__0710175_PE727378_S4.JPG&f=1&nofb=1

:blahaj:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.mix1023.com.au%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2Fsites%2F5%2F2020%2F07%2F2020-07-13_Mix-1023_DJUNGELSKOG-SOLO.png%3Fw%3D266&f=1&nofb=1

:djungelskog:

https://external-content.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ikea.com%2Fqa%2Fen%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2Fdjungelskog-soft-toy__0560428_PE662333_S4.JPG&f=1&nofb=1

:djungelstand:

I don't know how to make them transparent though

[nimble pebble]

They look transparent on light theme

That's all you need~

[craggy crater]

ahaha

[nimble pebble]

Now go, change your theme :]

[craggy crater]

NO.

[kind sleet]

YES BULLI

😌

[craggy crater]

aw he's safe 🥲

[thin flume]

I need him

[dusty oriole]

DJUNGLESKOG

[silk willow]

Yea i asked because I see no such button 🥴

But its fine, I.. I'll just ignore it

[silk willow]

Unfortunately I seem to not have this button

Thanks for showing me, now i know 👍

Ill just dm a mod if i need anything

[inland wind]

maybe your client needs to update? but yeah DMing or pinging works!

[cold shell]

Hey, question to the mods and admins. The new buttons for role assignment - when did discord gave it to this server and how did you set it up?

[chrome shadow]

It's not so much a discord server feature than an API feature, only bots have access to buttons
You can find more info about them here https://support.discord.com/hc/de/articles/1500012250861-Bots-Buttons

[cold shell]

Danke!

[fathom vector]

@sly valve since #suggestions is for server suggestions, I'll take your question here.

Buttons are a new feature that was only added a bit over a week ago, so bots and libraries used to make them still have very limited support for buttons. We're lucky enough to have a developer team working on our bot, so we implemented the feature on our own and tailored it to our needs. If you have someone to do that, definitely look into it, it's not that hard to implement with some experience. If not, then it's a bit of a waiting game until a popular bot implements the feature, but given how neat it is, I'd expect a lot of bots to add support for it sooner or later.

[sly valve]

thanks a lot, can you please tell me a little about how i can get more knowledge of custom bot development and how to get started?

[fathom vector]

Sure. Do you have any programming experience already?

[sly valve]

no, just a beginner , but willing to learn a little

[sly valve]

.

[fathom vector]

@sly valve well, I'd recommend picking a language, preferably one that you already know if you have experience and getting familiar with that first, because it's hard to do anything if you're still struggling with basic programming principles. When you're reasonably comfortable with it and think you understand enough stuff to make simple programs on your own, look into the Discord library for the language of choice, set up a basic bot and experiment. Most popular libraries have servers based around them with people willing to help out if you get stuck, provided that you've done your background reading and aren't essentially asking others to make your bot for you bit by bit.

[gaunt bridge]

@sly valve If you join #coding channel (by getting the role), there are lots of nice people there who can help out while you learn.

We have a lot of programmers and so on on the server.

[sly valve]

thanks a ton☺️

[sly valve]

will do, thankyouuuu🥰

[inland wind]

@nimble pebble i think you skipped this one out lol

[craggy crater]

hahaha

[inland wind]

e

emote suggestion :angy:

[craggy crater]

awwww

[glad fjord]

Emote suggestions

:menace:
:IDONTHATEYOURDOG:

I can make this degeneracy smaller if needed

[inland wind]

menace

[nimble pebble]

uhm, yes. I always search for all the pictures and links in here. Didn't consider the possibility that someone would just post an emote

I'll put it into the next batch. Sorry, @craggy crater

[glad fjord]

also bulli why is this wug called derp bird

Its a wug

[inland wind]

[nimble pebble]

Because Idk what a wug is

[glad fjord]

Its a linguistics experiment

This is a wug

Now there are two of them

We have two __

[nimble pebble]

.. not wugs?

[glad fjord]

Yeah its wugs

[nimble pebble]

I'm brilliant, woooh

[glad fjord]

The point of the experiment was to prove that children have the ability to produce a new word within the framework of their language

The point being that a child could never have heard someone say wugs, cause then dont exist. Therefore they can produce new meaningful words themselves

Its an old experiment

Anyway can we update the name

[inland wind]

we should make bluwu mod

so she can fix it 👀

[nimble pebble]

Sounds like the only way of fixing that

Do you accept, blu?

[nimble pebble]

Sure, I don't really mind

[glad fjord]

Why is that crossed out bulli

[nimble pebble]

Because we are not rdy for your genius yet

[inland wind]

why is it not fixed yet

[nimble pebble]

It is

it isn't

[inland wind]

[nimble pebble]

Guess I didn't confirm it

[inland wind]

[glad fjord]

Much better

[nimble pebble]

Look at these wugs

Damn, I can make up words, too

[glad fjord]

Do we have enough knitters to warent this as an emote