#💬〕general
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good morning
Who was it then? I’m sure you seen, one or two kept saying regardless gas will be thousands.
I’ll ask Scoriox, he got on the debate too back then
2eth gas for yuga land is nothing lmao
Do you think 2eth for mint is a lot?
you can go to BAYC on OS, sort by Highest Last Sale
they went above 500eth each lmao
I dont think we should be overly confident yet either we might all click at the same price in our DA and melt the system
If we break the system when we have a 3 day DA I call that a win. Plus I bet I’ll get a tiktaalik tattoo if we sell out instantly. I’d be happy but thinking people will be a little smart lol
keep forgetting about our built in sleep challange
What dis
3 Days
Oh staying up for best prices? Lol
I don't think you can get the snipe like during balancer though. We had what 10k people back then. Now there's 200k in discord, an insane amount signed up through email. I also know there's several Kaiju whales that have been asking me about land sale and a ton of those people are EU so awake when we sleep lol
Im just tramatised I slept though my last dutch action
I like the Honesty
Did everyone see the gas at 7000 GWEI earlier? Lol
which is that
I refuse to comment on the grounds i may incriminate myself 😉
yupp I was wondering how much a transaction would cost at that
Think it was 2-3e
Minting land for other side was like $5000 minimum for gas. A regular ETH transaction would be a lot less.
I only enter'd it to watch the mechanics anyway so no big loss but a lesson learnd
It was like $400 for a simple transaction.
Like to send money from one of your wallets to another
omg
A swap or stake or whatever would have been over $1000
That was only an hour or so ago
I was planning on claiming my ILV rewards today but obviously that didn’t pan out.
.2 eth So almost $600
I should have not been lazy and kyc since my wallet is doxxed anyway. ez gains
Damn Ape is doing what I expected it to. From like 28 yesterday to 17
well I sold my minor APe holding for our land sale the other day so Im cool
i think we all expected it lol
hype token ftw
I think som people hoped enough got burnt during land then people would hold to 2nd sale. Did not work out
I never bought i've just been 5x lev up and down but stopped like a week ago
anyway the APE NTF holder get "Free" land so Mandona and Justin B will be landlords
God no. We are decsntralised
Right but no use case planned for a super long time right? I think they wanted to start a game but then admitted they haven’t even started planning any stage or hired for game
Cause centralised projects are actually bullshit 🤣
I was going to but eventually decided against it. Wanted to see how the sale played out. Might put something out later because I feel like they were talking to us
It might be better to let it slide and let Arron do it
But it's also a battle we don't really need now. Sometimes no fight is the right answer. Only sometimes
?
👋

I think he trolls you guys a bunch. I'm usually the one antogonising other projects
Grant had a time with star atlas 🤣
But again, I don't think we want to touch this one. Too many whales, and I actually like what they're building
Haha back in the days when Kieran used to let it rip on twitter, like that Axie saga
let it slide no need for a twitter war just before our land sale let us gloat after
He wasn't wrong though 🤷♂️
I just don't like them making sweeping baseless statements about Dutch Auctions, claiming they have a superior method before having any evidence, and then butchering it anyway
few weeks ago we had a IIP on $ape flash
tbf axie whales and yuga whales not the same lol. Some BAYC whales I know throw 6 figures at random nft projects just for fun
maybe a "Polite" did it work out as you hoped ?
Oh nah, definitely wasn't making a comparison
Was just having a throwback hahaha
lol yeah
Whales love to gamble.
Maybe how it started how it's going meme
when they are bored, they giveaway eth for likes and retweet
i guess ath gwei is the new flex
Not even sure 7000 is ath
This is probably the biggest thing
Coming out with a 'Dutch auction is bullshit' and being rather aggressive in the actual post
It definitely doesn't look great when your land sale ends up being like that. if you end up talking the talk, you definitely gotta walk the walk or else it ends up being worse
I don't think it is
Nvm i found ath gwei
Really? 
lets see what the crypto press pick up tomorrow .....somebody could "Feed um a Story " 😎
Yuga broke eth?
nah suckers pay more in eth fees than for a single plot of land
but need to put it on the company
I missed it all, Bored apes did a land sale?
you gotta love fraggy
Fraggy only cares about us
evil elmo is my kids favourite character
she only cares about our ETH lol
he needs to be an illuval
atlas is
What did I do now?
you have committed the crime of stealing his heart
Didn't even know he had one
Fine, I'll google it
yuga broke eth
Trust is everything in crypto. Defi kingdoms has just lost it. Exploits and scammers dumping. Relieved to be in illuivim
The world tried to hide it from you, we were all in on it…as in the entire planet. “Don’t tell Fraggy”
And I was just sipping my drink having no idea
Good job planet
Hey! I had your back! 💯💁🏼♀️
non alcoholic drink
Alcohol is bad kids
at least the APE thingy took our minds off the market
that's not what you said yesterday, who are you?
Say hello to hungover Fraggy
I thought youre alien impersonator
🕵️♂️
just getting warmed up here off to buy coke
🙅♀️
how to have role?
Discord rank 5
jeez thank's
How to level up discord rank lol
Just be active in chat without spamming
Ah ok, I'm a lurker most of the time 👀👀
I was a lurker for the first 6 months, and here I am now
and that would be hard for mostly I just do more observing than do interactive one
newbie here and haven't any idea of this project
!welcome
Welcome! Wondering where to get started?
The #🔗〕helpful-links and #814084157713940482 sections have everything you need. From a brief overview to links that lead to highly detailed information.
Also, be sure to check out these channels in the discord to stay up to date:
Yeah I'm so busy working and studying at the same time too
Hopefully I can make some money from playing Illuvium so I can work less 🙂
did this game have already been release?
Nope, only closed beta for now
jeez thank's
Just register on the website, they will slowly roll out the game for everyone
I did already register but I haven't an idea how it goes
Just stake, wait, patiently follow
hope this would be a good project my friend told me about this a couple months ago and i haven't paying attention to this game until today it pop up on my screen on my social media and just trying to check it tho..
which social media?
hello peeps
yeah I can't wait.... the suspense is killing me 
facebook/IG?
🤣 exactly
the V2 staking was very smooth, have one foot in the door. And ready for action...

alcohol is good for kids. Its how i got so smart 
cellular evolution, the weak neurons die 🤣
Oof that BAYC land sell was a nightmare
Reading articles on it, it seems like Yuga doesn't understand a DA either :'(
Apparently poorly optimized mint contract and then hint to start a Apechain🤔
Can you post that article in #799010390201466880 for me? Didn't even know there was a land sale
The Landsale contract has burnt 55000 Eth in 5 hours..alot of burnt people,I am glad we are having a Dutch auction and over 3 days.
Aaron mentioned that they will be working on an in game feature to set this up. But most likely we can do ad hoc tourneys once we can start challenging people.
That is a lot of eth 👀
my mining rigs went brrrrrrrrrr
What rig do you have
love that guy
was the best part of Home Improvement
Everyone should read Kieran’s comments in #809220563397902346
🤩
How to avoid losing gas fees during land auction? BAYC land sale was almost 100M usd in lost tx fees.
@inner topaz @little flax
Illuvium land sale is Dutch Auction
I know, you will still have failed tx as well, multiple buyers will be buying and only 1 will succeed.
'Member when Yuga said "DA is bullshit!" That was a lie
Fixed price is provably bullshit
200k discord <> 20k land @lusty mantle
OMG fraggy I wasnt far off with my joke last night 😉
Not everybody can afford land
You'll have to remind me
So true LMAO 😂
That is an assumption
I said check pinned messages 1000'd invies gone out
I spend enough time on this discord to know that is a fact
Ah yeah I couldn't react on that since I already knew 
theres also a 3 day span to avoid too much fomo and clutter on the blockchain
weell turns out 500 going out soon makes 1000'd in total
4400 silv2 holders < 20k land
It's not a good metric, but discord members doesn't indicate land buyers
Not every buyer is on discord
Im definately stopping drinking and gonna whoop ass
Finally 😄
You forgetting those
Quitter....lol
the competative side of me might come out
I mean, if we ignore the auction format I can see your concern, but let's not ignore the format for a moment. I see no problem.
Not everybody wants to get land in the first sale. There will be 100k plots
Yuga got rekt by implementing a bad format with bad gas optimizations. I look at Illuvium's format and see no issue
I will remind you @lusty mantle after the sale. GM
See you then
well going off how well they optimized the v2 staking contracts even if a G war breaks out it should still be ok
We will make sure Warren G is here to Regulate...
@lusty mantle . In yet?
Sigh. Surely in the next 500 😅
If Im not in the next 500 Im gonna spam the channel with naked pictures of me it wont be pretty 😱
I can't promise beta but I can promise a mute
Go on say it fraggy
well then I might just have to buy DJI's latest controller ...huff
👋

ready your finger i have found the perfect gif
Are you asking me to mute you? 
Soon ......lol
Damn it keeps getting better and better
The fuck is this shit
@lusty mantle
Thanks 😄
damn, i go take a shower and it seems i missed the excitement lol
That 55k went to miners
thats the burned amount
Stakers of ILV should be give beta access before wider public... just saying...
The hard working folk deserve their due, God bless yuga for giving back /s
i dont think that went to miners
the brains are working over time
thats from my 2060 super
your a spring chicken
i saw that live earlier on my 2070 super, i was like whats going on, i think there was a huge chunk more going to miners, but the 55k actually looks to have been burned, some blocks were burning 200+ ETH
yea my oldest is 1070ti
please tell me, is it already possible to get a whitelist for buying land?
white sheet
yeh its called a tissue
There's no white sheet, or whitelist here
whitelist*
Everything is public
mods wars ...roflmao
I'm trying chill

wow, miners actually got less
Do you guys know how the Illuvium employees are getting paid? Is there a company behind the scene?
theres been a little bit of a tick up on coins i own
Illuvium Labs is developing the game Illuvium for the Illuvium DAO. Illuvium Labs has runway from the seed/pressed sales still.
I need a tick up in anything i got 2 cars in da garage
OS accepts $ape so we wont see it going back to eth
Really?
i only see ETH and WETH if i try to sell on OS
nope can buy and sell with any coin on OS just cost you shit loads more if its not ETH
oh, maybe on the buying side then
can list also if you want
got me confused initial also
I hate OS their ui sucks
Just dnt accept DAI offer
somebody offer you something 👀
is land coming out this month likely or unlikely, i know no one has a crystal ball
Maybe end of may/june
would be nice 🙂
May month is going to be awesome🎉
i hope im in the 500, i doubt it, but im hoping lol
For people who do not want to use energy to push the link above.
If you are here long enough, you stop hoping to win anything 
Fraggy, still no beta for you?
Can you all stop rubbing it in 😅
Silly pikachu, hope comes in a bottle, usually made of glass....
We need the mods to take care of Discord while we play, when we get beta ...
if we were in OB, there wouldnt be a need for babysitters lmao
Dont worry fraggy, you and me both :)
I can feel a celebration coming
you better not release the next 500 soon I got a graduation to attend
i missed one in sydney alreeady
i havnt been this hyped to get try and get into a beta since League of Legends, that was an interesting time
he said "community members" nothing about new mod 🤔
welcome to the recovering alcoholics club ....please introduce yourself ......"Im adicted to Iluvium "
All those people having fun and making streamings is not easy to swallow it
c'mon lazy guys, find all those bugs at once instead of having fun and lets move to open beta asap!
Should make an illuvium beverage with a rainbow coloring
I already have the recipy
shouldnt it be purple with an rgb lid on the bottle
hungover fraggy has left the building
best hangover remedy
Ima gonna find our secret ...It made the students vomit in the toilet on opening night
id buy some.....for my enemies
i see some liquidity back in the market
wise man
1.5m PPL ARE REGISTERED FOR BETA.
LET THAT SINK IN
Does Fraggy ever leave?
ofc not, but she changes forms 🤣
apparently mama at the kubo .....I have to go 😱
Is that legit number? It changes it seems lol
I think it was mentioned by Kieran
It was in Kierans message in IIP discussion.
Thats insane if correct, Does anyone remeber what was mandatory to fill out on the Beta form?
Pc specs (graphics card only), beta experience, discord ID i think. +Mail
fraggy is a bot thats why shes not getting beta access
felt like a resume if i remember right lol
Does anyone have any news regarding the scam refund that occurred in late December?
Been refunded ages ago, it's somewhere in #📣〕announcements
Oh! I don’t read those, I just screenshot and share everywhere and trust it’s good shit 💁🏼♀️🙃
So eligible beta testers would be restricted by Discord numbers than?
No, all that EXCEPT discord ID
discord id was asked for, i remeber having to look up the numbers at the end
I just did another one other day
Makes sense not to exclude people that don't have Discord
I filled out the form but nothing was given back to me
They have been talking about 1.5M registrations to the site. So in this bear market that 1.5M was further registered to the beta is surprising to me.
500 of those are WF trying to get in
Lol i wonder how many fraggy impersonaters we have here as well that end up postponing your admissions xD
Oh that's why you all ask, keep registering as me?
Thats the plan!
Yeh maybe the 1.5m is people who have registered on illuvium site.. not specifically for beta
Because discord ID is required for beta sign up
Everyone is in breach of NDA😂
Ban them all!
All content creators got trolled
Yeah that was a fun happening idd
They had that NDA lying around as they speeded up the admission process. And the next day they allowed streaming :)
@acoustic urchin are you playing today?
probably the right question is when are you playing
Omgggg cant wait to get my hands on beta! Wen?!🙏🏻❣️
Init tho.. sick of TFT by now 😅
working on videos
Will have to watch old videos then
Anyome streaming today? Need to study and watch more content😅
Let me know if you find out
I can for one game lol
ok, lets go!
i have to make dinner soon lol
@inner topaz @little flax @plain delta any possibility to see another arena during the PB? If any other arena ready that would be a breath of fresh air if we could cycle through some arenas on the survival mode.
To defend my honor, my first round was on point (2nd)💪
Then choked like an absolute bitch in round 2 🤣
But the banter in voice was too much fun
It looked like you had a solid chance of winning
I couldnt believe i screwed up like that but like kieran said, thats the great part about tournaments, Gotta bring your A game to every minute of them or you get rekt
not that i was a favorite but even frobei bowed out round 2 who was probs the favorite. And i love upsets, but holy fuck damo was sooooo consitant it was awesome
damo seemed like he was at least 2 steps above everyone else into the 22 or 23 every round
Aww crashed haha
@agile tapir what a shame, thank you for streaming brother!
@agile tapir thanks man
So sorry! I felt that was a 20+ game too! Will try to get back later. Daddy duties first. Gotta cook lol
Yeah! and that means that even with not all features is not easy to master
100%
is ILV acting as a governance token and also a utility token that can be earned through the game guys?
Oh lord help me the wife is cooking
that should be a good thing
Yes to governance, no to in game spending, ETH and sILV2 can be used in game.
how do i earn or buy sILV2?
You can claim it as staking rewards or purchase it on the secondary market.
Always a bit hit and miss but i could eat a horse right now
how can i play illuvium right now i registerd but nothing happend
so can I earn any token that can transfer directly to money or it is just NFTs that can sell on the market for profit?
This game looks really good very excited to have joined the dc
present her with a gift. a cooking course! but make sure it does not say "beginner" anywhere
the project is currently in Private Beta 1 phase. you will have to wait a bit before you can play in private beta 2 or open beta bro!
I'm not sure of your Q sorry.
!earn
In Illuvium there will be several options to P2E:
- sell captured Illuvials
- sell farmed materials
- sell crafted items
- wager on battles in the Leviathan Arena
- earn some of the 1 Million ILV set aside for in-game rewards
BUT, while the game will be free to play, in order to participate in the earning part of the economy, a bit of money needs to be invested.
!f2p
You begin our game with a free-to-play experience that immerses you in our richly-detailed world, lets you enjoy some action, and helps you understand how the game works. The free-to-play experience of the Tier 0 regions will familiarize you with Illuvium and won’t feel like an “abridged” version of the game. It is a full-fledged gameplay experience! If you like it, you can then decide to opt into the paid experience, start collecting NFTs from higher tiered regions and delve into deeper adventures to explore the mysteries of the game where the NFTs you gather start to hold more value as well.
Just after game launch, when everyone starts fresh, you might even be able to sell free Tier 0 NFTs on the IlluviDEX for ETH, but there is no guarantee for that.
okey thanks
I read that we can earn NFTs like illuvials, materials and items in game so i wanna ask that if i want to make money then i need to sell these NFTs right?
Yes you can sell NFTs to lazy gamers 😉
you can also earn by playing well in tournaments and ranked ladder in the autobattler. every game mode will have some earning aspect to it
The roast 
Here he goes on twitter, thought he said he was gonna sit this one out 🤣
Also have we really had 1.5+ million applications for beta?
lol Kieran gonna Kieran ⚡️
MAYC fp tanked tho, some holders are dissatisfied
Yeah couldn't help myself
Ah that should just say registrations. I mean, they are registering for our product which is a game...
Beta application specifically were around 150K
i gotta handed to you man, you got balls of steel
Did he troll? In half unconscious
it was a statement. Loved it
I really need new glasses discord on mobile is impossible without
and thats how you make a mark in history
by taking down the biggest bully
we are going places
Yeah nice
Well they took shots at us. Whether they did it inadvertently or not. We don't have to hide. If we did then it would show that we don't back our decision of a Dutch Auction. Fuck that
Just wait until everyone sees the success of our sale, actions speak volumes
I softened the blow. I do truly like their project a lot. But yeah, I am always going to defend our decisions because we believe in them and we spend hours and hours researching these things
👀
now im back at my desktop I cant find my phone help
somebody screenshot it please
Hey Kieran if you have time plz check your dms
What's happening?
musk has got you "No results from "KieranWarwikKiren"
you have a lot of believers

fearless leader
Im waiting for my phone to charge to like
I just noticed somethin if you open xbox live on your pc Discord "friends" are shown by this side
Imagine using twitter on a pc
is there a reason to use xbox live on pc?
think its just a screen overlay thing but nearly wet myself
this place is a ghost town
not realy unless you have a kid who likes mine craft
why does that need xbox live?
wanna fight
cuz he dipped his ipad in the poo the other day ...good enough ??
whut
pool even
im streemin
fair enough, i thought there was a pc version, but ive never played it
fully clothed?
Let's goooooo
i gotta get sleep, its 6:30am here
he's got those camera angle down
Hey All! I have been MIA for a little while! I was wondering if there are more details on the sale for both land and illuvitars?
its illuviums rule
hi im trying to register for private beta but it says 'falied to fetch'
GM, Who is the best person to reach out for a collab?
Land sale prices are update, no date announced yet
Seeing what happened to Otherside... Illuvium's land sale could be really (I mean, really) successful if executed properly. Exciting 🔥
Thanks!
id prefer fair dutch auction, with unrevealed land plot location
Wait until 1000 people are in here playing*
Don’t know why otherside ditched Dutch aunction
I am setting up my own guild
And their gas was all waste
But they got the marketing and people to spend
And huge backing
But just a traditional one where you chat. And it's gonna be a channel in here.
Need to prep for when we merge into an MMORPG 
I can't get over taking down raid bosses
Competition ramping let’s get it
And being able to pillage other peoples bases with large clan wars. Except you're taking real world currency xD
Why fight real wars when you can fight virtual ones?
You can use the degen channel, it's not used anymore 
Interesting
Perhaps we rise again
🙏
Ilv got the devs a head start
Just recruited my first member.
I'm done betting against Kieran, I'm in
I heard rumors Blizzard is making WoW2, that might be our future rival
But seriously can you imagine going in to take a leviathan and you've got 8 of you all with a team of illuvials that all synergise once you get into battle
Otherside is the rival
First think I imagined when that big whale was posted
This is the way
Lets see their game first...
I want to learn solidity to help build
Sure looks like a raid boss
Building a team of 200 people is the first step 
hahahaha not the ethliza?
There is another levi floating around
Ain’t a programmer though
@sudden dawn
👀
lol, unless they decide to come back to the degen channel
This is a raid boss...
hahaha u build it and they will come
Not being able to post links is not really degen
mmmm
Maybe we make degen a separate opt in
The problem was the mods were making it too tight in there
wdym
and people started sharing my comments in there to the larger community
ah I see
If people have to sign a waiver that Kieran is gonna troll in there then I'm back
I didn't even get beta, I'm not signing anything 
Seriously though I'm going to talk to Aaron about that being an opt in channel from now on
I’ll take it back I don’t care that chat was fire 🔥
@plain delta can you set that up please
Where do I opt in?
Same but I think we have to sign it😅 or we will ever get it
Get the beta public and land sale then money raise and catch up to otherside raise
It's Sunday night at 10pm. I love being the youngest
The plan is to pick up a bunch of new solidity coders over the next month
is umbre bugged btw? or am I blind?? so hard to tell when it hits
Needs work 100%
Coders are the way
yeah allg just wasnt sure if I was imagining things
He is meant to hit 3 or 4 enemies from memory and I only ever see one. If you are talking about the ult
more or less. could just be visual bug tho
I haven't played today though

expensive deck
Real
Degen?
Yeah can we make it opt in. So people know that its a shit show in there
Yes.
If you want.
@red crater it's happening
@lusty mantle thoughts?
I don’t get a choice. I see all channels.
But still no.

I don't mind making me some money again 
what's happening?
the revival of the cave
degen trading revival
And any screen shots taken in there and posted elsewhere receives perma ban
From degen lol
what does this mean
u cant ban fraggy?
Only lead mods can ban
I'm good with that :P
#795845536128303175 used to be the only channel where I talked
Hi
see I don't really understand what degen means
yes, a lot of us
degen = degenerate . A guy who does nothing else besides NFT/Gamefi for example in this case
that's basically me now lol
There was a lot of NFT flipping action in there 😄
sounds like I need some eth but I have none 
I know the feeling haha
Bring on the Alpha good ser
Can land be bought with ILV? If yes, should I avoid to stake ILV?
For land sale you can use ETH or sILV2
Hey team, I would love to mint into this project, what do holders get? How do these items work?
Example on open sea, what’s the utility behind the different nfts there
those are all purely cosmetic, no gameplay value.
there is no whitelist no presale, the game gets released, you go into it and catch your nfts, like pokemon.
!welcome
Welcome! Wondering where to get started?
The #🔗〕helpful-links and #814084157713940482 sections have everything you need. From a brief overview to links that lead to highly detailed information.
Also, be sure to check out these channels in the discord to stay up to date:
👀
currently the game is in private beta 1 phase. next up are land sale, profile picture (illuvitar) sale, private beta 2
!welcome
Let's not spam it
Wow I didn’t know anyone could do that! That’s pretty cool
Ohhhh I will def mint the land sale, I have aped into Mavia land sale and looking at p2e land games, where can I find out about the land sale release and mint
!land
There is no set date for the first land sale. The land sale will be announced in #📣〕announcements when the date has been confirmed. Illuvium: Zero is a mobile mini-game that will interact with the main game. Illuvium: Zero will be a base building game staged on a piece of land. Paid land will produce Fuel ERC20 tokens and Blueprints, interacting with the main game. There will be 100k plots of paid land in total, and the first land sale will offer 20k of these plots for sale in a dutch auction format. All in-game development on land will be wiped when Illuvium launches. For more information, visit #🎮〕illuvium-zero
Haha ya sorry I was gonna delete it just wanted to see it work
Hey guys
So if I lock my ILV for say 6 months, I won't be able to swap them for sILV2 and therefore I won't be able to buy the land. Am I getting it right?
Yes
You can redeem your rewards earned in sILV2 though, which you will be able to use on the Land Sale
I thought rewards were locked for a year?
when you claim sILV2 is not locked, only ILV
oh then the website needs to be updated because it still tells you they are locked when claimed
Do we have any idea how betting in the leviathan arena will work?
I have ILV in my MM. If I were to sell it, how how do I transfer it to my bank account? Was previously using OKX but Singapore banned it. Help anyone?
sILV2 rewards are unlocked and can be used in-game once the game is live.
I see no issue
Rewards are claimed from the rewards page.
Once claimed, rewards have a 12 month locking period. They also compound your returns.
but maybe thats if you claim ILV and not sILV2
hello gm to you how are y'll im glad to see you of all hr.
ILV yield rewards are subject to a 12 month vesting period.
While they are vesting they compound your rewards.
@lusty mantle we can use eth to buy land?
Yes
Cool beans thanks alex
Any idea on what the price will be?
Check the pinned messages in #🎮〕illuvium-zero
i thought sg is pro crypto
kucoin
p2p
joooo, whas up guys and how u doin? Some new news about landsales or whats comming up next
!land
There is no set date for the first land sale. The land sale will be announced in #📣〕announcements when the date has been confirmed. Illuvium: Zero is a mobile mini-game that will interact with the main game. Illuvium: Zero will be a base building game staged on a piece of land. Paid land will produce Fuel ERC20 tokens and Blueprints, interacting with the main game. There will be 100k plots of paid land in total, and the first land sale will offer 20k of these plots for sale in a dutch auction format. All in-game development on land will be wiped when Illuvium launches. For more information, visit #🎮〕illuvium-zero
Ok, I’ll take a look. Thanks buddy!
@acoustic urchin wen
Wen wut
stream pls
do i need to register for the landsale?
I hope you guys are paying attention to the dumpster fire at Defi Kingdoms which is a good game that people enjoyed playing. But when they created this new kingdom Crystalvale which most players dislike because it's incomplete. Now there is a fire sale on both JEWEL and CRYSTAL. The game may not survive because of a few incompetent people. Sham.
Sorry made videos this morning and family afternoon
No, land sale is public
Defi kingdoms isn't even fun
Axie Infinity and Thetan Arena aren't playable by normal players.
As for illuvium, I have high hopes but with most games players lose interest after a few months. After that it may evolve into a game played by elites in PvP combat. Some of the richer players in crypto will fight each other for a certain amount of ETH. Others may bet on some outcomes.
Illuvium is not a game, is a studio. So if they loose interest in a particular game there will be more
@lusty mantle you only followed us just now? I don't know if I should feel bad that it took that long or be happy you finally did hahahaha
im here for the side bet
I just made a twitter again after deleting it months ago
Oh yeah I remember reading that before. So we feel lucky then 
someone know whose is this wallet? 0x5a52E96BAcdaBb82fd05763E25335261B270Efcb
Probably an exchange
so probably binance, ok thx
Yup, seems like it's a Binance wallet
That wasnt the problem
Snowflakes were the problem
!help
I waste too much time on twitter. Life would probably be better without it.
/help search
Please use bot commands in #👑〕bot-commands
okay
I missed quite some information, installed it again. Let's see for how long 😄
They infiltrated #795845536128303175 gasp.
Time to get dressed and go get me some hangover food
thai food
Good idea
Time for a MegaPint
red wine?
Gemmni and cryptocom will work. There is an exchange called independent reserve endorsed by MAS but the rates are ridiculous.
Lol
Thanks for letting us know but next time please post it in #🎨〕community-content
Gm frens
i dont think user numbers shown on discord is accurate
GM
lot of spam bot accounts were added in many servers especially illuvium had frequent drops
when team added verification to click on emoji last time I know it was 30k or 40k
who accepted got access to channels
Happy hour anytime right? 🍻
Less people here means more chance for me to get into beta?
can mods post how many people reacted to emoji to get access to channels
that shows real discord user metrics
@near pier
Do we know if Illuvium will be making Illuvials available for use on The Otherside?
Yeah we look into bot action often to prune them
Guess that may not even be a concern

my wallet was compromised and need to get a new one. I have ILV staked. Is there a way to move it to the new wallet
i'm sorry that happened you.
So its gone forever. I cant unlock and move it
you could check whether you actually lost your Seedphrase, or that you only gave them permission to send away your tokens. In the former case you will have to battle the scammers in a test of speed. In the latter then you can just un-approve their rights over your tokens.
if they have your seedphrase, then they can also unlock your tokens for you and send them away.
Its hard to say. I had 1 big NFT stolen and whenvever eth is deposit, its removed with a few seconds
you can check etherscan token approvals and insert your wallet address to see whether you gave permission to move your tokens. If Ethereum is not one of the approved tokens then yes, your Seedphrase is stolen and there is nothing the team or anyone will be able to do for you. The only way would be to do the same as the scammers and make a bot that is quicker than theirs at sending away your funds. But since it's how they make a living, i dare say your chances would be low.
I'll see what happens in 52 days. I'll try to unstack and transfer. Thank you for the information
can you show how many members accepted to rules
if the sum is big enough, you might want to look for a solidity engineer and bot-creator to make an automated process out of it. That way you might have a better chance than through doing it manually 🙂 You would still not have a very high chance of getting your funds transfered to your own wallet though :S
I’m on mobile right now, so no but will look later
I think I got lucky, my one wallet got stolen through my own stupidity, and has 9 ILV In it, but I deposited some eth and they haven’t touched it, so I’m hoping they just forgot about it and I can transfer it out on unlock
As they say, it will be good to check if you have any contract that will withdraw your funds still there
How do I check that?
Not really sure, some people on chat should know
pushing for the rank 1 3 days in a row, come and join in illuvium voice, no backsit but questions are welcome
Thanks
hi
how are you
My apologies! 😛
Guys, I have a (potentially) stupid question about the game... will the Overworld be a single player experience or something like World of warcraft where lots/all players run around on a server?
Single for now
Ah thx. I see. Simplifies a lot of things technically I guess...
Please post in #🎨〕community-content
@obsidian spindle Do you stream Beta?
maybe a stupid question, but will we be able to see other players in the open world? Or are that personal instances? Or are there social points like towns or whatever where you can see others if not "in the wild"?
Its a single player experience
there are no stupid questions. @woeful saffron
there is stuff like mmorpg and moba etc. planned. for now the overworld is single player. @worthy ermine
merci ❤️
imagine a moba with the illuvials 😄 would be so crazy competition to lol and the others^^ maybe in 5years then 🙂
So if it says 0 dollars at risk I am good?
yes i would love to moba around with a lynx in the jungle.. haha just imagining it I get a little hype in my stomach.
i dont think it will take as long as 5 years. 🙌
Aaron was teasing about a similar style of play for the overworld as DokeV for a later battle format than the autobattler.
#802110554784661544 message
DokeV gives me some kind of Monster hunter vibes, and with the different weapons that the ranger can already equip it might not be a coincidence :p
Also @woeful saffron :)) so yeah not now but maybe in a couple years.
you have very good memory, it was awhile back when he said that
thanks for sharing mate 🙂
I was pretty hyped and tried to show my bro the trailer of DokeV for half the day xD
lmao
BTW: this DokeV trailer I saw at gamescon and had so damn goosebombs. So crazy and jsut unclear what it is all about, but made with soooo much love and creativity. And the graphics & movements. Just crazy!
But don't know what kind of drugs the devs took 😄
Yeah i had no clue what was going on either but we have a team here with the same kind of attitude and creativity for sure 
With Unreal engine 4 and the insane graphics, it will really be crazy ^^
Welcome to the dreamworld of children where everybody can do whatever he wants^^
Go to the Revoke cash website, revoke everything that has unlimited spending if u are not 100% sure about the website.
Is anyone staking in the ILV/ETH pool?
I've only streamed the tourney; not a streamer; could change soon tho 🤷♂️
Would defintley watch if you started,would like to hear the thought prosess when you play
I gave a slight running commentary in my tourney stream on yt; I'll try to stream and give my thoughts on the daily deck in the next few days though. Thanks!
How is gas still so high? Is it just ppl paying a ton to trade otherside land?
Most likely that is the case gonna be big til tomorow or the next day
Lots are what’s up
<@&795142782133207063> spam
Imagine Illuvium
Not spam i mean they use a fair dutch auction If you mint at a higher price and the last NFT is minted at a lower price, you can claim a refund and receive all the excess amount you paid.
For example, if you minted at 0.6ETH and the last NFT sold was at 0.4ETH, you can claim a refund for the difference of 0.2ETH.
That’s bad for us, less revdis then
That sounds as buy whenever and then just get refund
then the dao and the stakes lose money and defats the point of the auctions that would be a no thank from me.. pick your price and live with it.
MOBAs are fun but I never understand the lingo those guys use. They have the strangest compliments like “your trash” and “uninstall.”
It would be a lot less confusing for me if they just said “good job” like normal people.
man, forgot about this project for a few months... hope are things progressing?
pretty good
They just started rolling out the private beta. Check out some of the videos on YouTube if you haven’t seen them yet.
ngl that looked pretty dope, probably the best blockchain game ive seen so far
gaming is what first got me interested in web3, got a little distracted by 1/1 art, but need to focus back on the gamefi side of things
Illuvium is definitely in a different league than it's competitors. It should be a pretty exciting couple months here with the land sale, Illuvitars, and public survival beta coming up.
what competitors even are there? i havnt seen anything yet with this level
@pseudo flint perhaps a bit short-sighted to say giving people money back would cost the dao money if it ultimately gets the bad taste of overpaying from fomo’ing out of peoples mouths and long term leads to a happier healthier ecosystem. But we’ll see how it goes whenever things happen.
I mean axie is the biggest in the space right now but I think we should surpass them pretty easily. Lots of other games in development that are supposed to be AAA quality. Star Atlas comes to mind and im sure there are others being developed that im not aware of .
Aurory and embersword are two games that come to mind that look legitimately well made and fun.
i disagree . No one is forcing anyone to participate. As said its an auction pick your price and live with it or don't participate. simple choice
yes
Pretty words that never actually come to fruition. People have to live with it yes, but few handle it well when things turn out worse than expected.
I will say this will make whales buy high to get the lands they want and just get money back
So if you want it fair for everyone, this will not be it
again if as someone choses to pay x and someone else gets it for y which as lower . and x wants to be salty. They can look in the mirror and be salty at the face they see.
A 'fair' dutch auction is really only fair to the people who suck at trading. It robs those who buy the bottom of the opportunity to flip for a profit and generally results in a lower floor since the average price is lowered to the lowest price.
It makes sense to me for small projects who are worried they might not mint out but for Illuvium this is supposed to be a revenue generation event. Not a 'hold your hand and make sure you pay a nice price for your landy' event.
It boggles the mind how some people refuse to learn that Auctions aren't supposed to be fair, they are supposed to raise as much money as possible for the seller. Besides, there is no "fair" way to distribute scarce things like ILV land.
and the sellers are also the buyers 😄
Hey Guys, Has it been announced the starting prices for the dutch auctions?
Yeah check #📰〕governance-news
Gas wars are never a good thing. This auction format removes gas wars, assuming the starting prices are set high enough. I have no sympathy for people who want to use bots or high gas to screw over the normal people.
thank you 🙂
looks like I will be priced out sadly hahaha
depends how quickly they sell out I guess
They will go down as low as 5% of the starting price. Personally im expecting them to sell around 25% of starting price.
Okay well if that's the case then I will definitely be able to jump on a couple 🙂
and if they sell off at starting price I will hope they are bots and just buying overpriced land
Or you could just wait and buy off secondary. There is a chance the secondary resales will be at a lower price than the lowest auction prices.
hmm that's true! there is a few ways to play it I guess!
do we know how many illuvitars there will be?
hey! Where can i swap from SLP back to ETH?
Providing liquidity is done via an ILV/ETH Pool on SushiSwap and requires multiple steps:
- Buy ILV and ETH
- After approving the Sushi contract you stake a 50/50 value ratio of ETH and ILV
- You receive SLP tokens. (To see them, add the SLP contract address to your wallet)
- Stake the SLP tokens through the Illuvium Staking App and set your lock period.
See #🔗〕helpful-links for official links.
SLP = Sushi Liquidity Provider
So probably not Uni 🤣
I think it was 15 in the first set
Plus the 5 free/basic ones
"Illuvitars Genesis Set — Phase 2 has begun. There will be a few more Accessories and 25 extra Illuvial portraits to purchase. We’re talking billions of combinations."
@torpid sleet alls good, just for context of my misunderstood comment other day, this is what I was referring to that will eventually be a thing
This 💁🏼♀️

why does the rewards not show accumulating on debank for some but higher net worth it does?
Ahh. I see. I’m that case you better watch out. I’ll be coming for shiny ✨ 😜
omg GG @fallow solstice !!
🙌
Would’ve gone further but it bugged out on me lol https://twitter.com/zomgmi/status/1520873045967077376?s=21&t=Z2U4KaLu7CNSlmlZYEBRZw
omg you definitely broke it, be glad that it kept your record tho, when masterball broke the game and got a similar error his record didn't appear on leaderboards
yeah i mean board is pretty big tho so i clearly doubt it. made to wave 29 yesterday and clearly you had space for like 6-7 more, 3 if big ones
yeah true - honestly might of just screwed myself by taking a screenshot when the waves refreshed
maybe it was just a one time error like when it randomly crashes or the actual software is maybe simply not made to make further, i mean it's private beta 1, could be not finished yet
Yeah for sure - totally possible
GG again anyways man !
Thanks bud!
isn't board limited to 8 illuvials on each side?
not the CPU side, past wabe 17 you already start facing boards with 10+
oh that's crazy, i think there is a limit for it?
or until u run out of space ? xd
Zom over here breaking the game at lvl 30 🤣 👏
it is survival mode, so you get as further as you can while the CPU gets stronger each round
I think we can reach a point where we can place all the illuvials on the deck
Pretty sure Star Atlas is about 2-3 years from launch though (per their own communicated timelines). We’ll see a number of other high quality games enter the space earlier than them IMO including potentially a few projects not even launched yet.
Yeah I think star atlas could take like 5 years. I dont follow them too closely but I havn't seen anything to indicate that they have any plans of speeding up production either.
Sandbox will probably be one of the earliest to release and while its definitely in the same gamefi category as Illuvium I dont know that its so much of a direct competitor.
With the continued fuckery of major projects like Crypto.com, Fantom, Tether Etc…i just want to thank the team for their transparency thus far, it means a lot
That not an error for not enough space on the board (I believe at last). Had that error three times in different occasions. In lower waves with less Illuvials and higher waves with more Illuvials. I think it’s a combination of actions and timing that triggers it. I’ve had the error while doing edits in planning. I had the error when the timers was out and about to load the auto battle. Also had it after a finished wave before planning. So I think that’s a generic “freeze alarm” when the game can’t progress to the next step kind of thing
What do you know about crypto.com?
Will open beta just be survival or entire game? When capturing in open beta… if you collect illuvials do you keep them or lose them at full game release?
Mm got you - that makes sense
From what i saw in the interview with aaron, looks like there will be some open worls, but they will get wiped on release
They are lowering the cashback rewards on their visa cards for holders. It sent the price down quite a bit.
For fucks sake, must have been too much inflation. That cashback was going great, I was paying every bill with my crypto.com card.
Perhaps whenever you are acting at near to the exact moment of transition between phases; not sure what I was doing in this instance, although taking a screenshot could’ve triggered it
Yes something in this manner. Screenshot could definitely be it. Toggling a setting in there or elsewhere. Maybe it’s related to the camera being in a “new” angle and other actions building up to it. Could be whatever really. I’m trying to remember what I did to know what build up to the error. But sometimes it’s just not possible to recall or even figure out why (I do troubleshooting like this irl too but for a robot)
Ah very cool - yeah, good to be aware if in any case
Yes! And teamwork could eventually pinpoint the factor that triggers it
For sure - I think I've triggered similar before with last second positionings
So I think our guess here might be right
Yes that’s what I believe I did once too
Maybe when the illuvial/Arlen were held in “hand”/were selected and timer went out
I stay away from crypto . Com. I have a guild member who accidentally sent himself an ETH lizard he was sending to his brother and lost it because it’s a centralized system
I had a roommate do crypto.com and send himself eth, but was able to recover it on metamask by adding the cronos mainnet
I also heard many warnings about them, I have been with them since the ICO in 2017 when they were called Monaco Card, so far so good. One of the few ICOs from that period that actually delivered something 😉
Hello
Need help
Someone texted me on Twitter:
We are looking for young designers would you like to participate in the casting? (In name of Illuvium)
Is this scam or fake?
Hm… I heard about them getting wiped in beta but didn’t know if that was closed and open. Any rough estimate for full game release? Are we thinking 2022?
2022 is the current estimate, maybe in 4-5 months, but thats a semi-educated guess
"Please provide your email address. We use the mail for further cooperation, I will write to you from the post office of сopmania, you will need to answer a few questions, But just in case I will warn you that the mail is checked by the authorities. In the future, you will receive materials for work, documents and further instructions. You can ask me any informal questions here or via twitter." ??? 😦
Can someone help if this is real or not? Is someone really tries to scam me with abusing that im a Designer???
And also in the name of Illuvium
The "Sellers" in this case are ILV Holders due to revenue distribution.
is it still not too late to stake in ILV?
@mossy grove my top1 today 😛
What’s the deck like?
When is the land sale ?
imo end of may/june
Ty ! 🥂 and is there a prediction on price yet ?
it's a dutch auction
let me in beta so i can break the game
Theres 2 main ones, infoluvial.io and illuvial master
📢
gm
The Future of Illuvium Pro Players right here
ACG is a beast
Fun fact: 500 of 1,000,000 potential interested players are playing. Can’t really tally “best” yet. Js
you may want to focus on overworld
That’s odd to say. 🧐🤨 very presumptuous for a big brain such as yourself
this is how i see it
- casuals will farm overworld
- polemos will sponsor pros
- acg will supply pros
unless you can enroll some pros lori
She will create them
She has coached fighters before
Lol scoot
you made my day
I will probably start with overworld, kinda want to try for some dark holos
You know our roaster of members?
Damn right, 407 the past 13 years. That was hard, this…not so much 💁🏼♀️
id love to see Guild vs Guild comp
🤐
You really don’t know, huh? 🤔
Let’s just say, we aren’t called “SHINY” for nuthin 🤩
you got beta?
Im gonna start recruiting for scoot guild. We dont have a pro team we just kinda hang around and complain about things not being balanced. Its great for the "I could totally be pro I just don't have the time" types.
you need my resume?
You've been pre-approved
years of sarcasm paid off. My mom would be so proud
im confused. I need my addy
are people having fun playing the beta?
Disclosure of that is a breach of NDA. No one can say
looks like it, chat been slow for a week
do you confirm or deny?
I do not. Months of grinding to Rank 40 , and nuthin 😤
wait let me check..
oops, i dont have beta 
sweet as, a game being fun always needs to be the driver instead of making money
well i kinda miss solarstorm text wall
you do have a 🦎 dnt u?
maybe you can start streaming with your fighters 
make the subs in ILV
solid business plan right there
we gonna have our own pokimane
Well with it being opt in now that should solve the issue. You are opting into garbage chat. Accept what you see
I guess I still don’t understand discord enough to know how to opt in a channel 🤦🏼♀️🤣. I understand the no screenshot rule. I’d like to opt in ✨
The key is to be degen+
Thats a Synthaman
Follows the trends first uses analysis later
So many times I ape and then analyse and then nope
lol @lofty knoll vibes when he set up his buying club in the balancer sale
Yo @inner topaz , do you have a plan on how much time in advance you will announce the release date of open beta (as in day 1 of capturing and owning illuvials/equipment/materials as nfts) so that people can book annual leave and prepare to devote their life on day 1 and not miss out? - Not hassling you for a date now just wondering if you plan on giving a month or 2 heads up for example, cheers.
you got a job? You are doing it wrong
I’m wondering if that’s open beta or full game release where you can capture and keep them
cash out your annual leave lmao
They have said it will be open beta, they dont want to consider it a full release because the game wont be completely finished yet, but you will still own your assets, so as far as i know they are considering the 'main launch' as 'open beta'
mate i would love to quit and go full time with this sort of thing but im not quite at that point financially yet haha
sup guys
How to piss off admins 101
Lmao I'm in
So kinda serious question: How are people planning on determining their cost basis for illuvials from going traveling? If the game had a log feature that people could use as a reference for easily seeing what they paid for each illuvial using a simple formula that would be very helpful for the tax bs that comes with the territory.
should be straightforward. Add up all costs to get that illuvial (travel + cured shards) and subtract it from what you sold it for after the fees.
are you going to report wager winnings ?
I suppose that should work out, still wondering though then if it would be worth it for the team to make a hopefully simple system to track that for players. Not their responsibility admittedly but anything to get people feeling better about playing blockchain games no?
Spending fuel to travel or using a shard would constitute a sale. I would consider the basis for an Illuvial to be the market value when you caputure it. You are essentially 'selling' the shard to illuvium in exchange for the Illuvial.
Travel maybe can be written off as a transaction fee?
thats pushing it though
I think it makes more sense to take the travel fee and divide it by number if illuvials caught and associate that percentage with each illuvials cost basis personally, otw a transaction fee should be fine too as long as we’re consistent maybe?
Im like 99% sure that basis is supposed to be the 'fair market value' at the time of purchase. It doesnt matter what you actually paid for it.
Nfts are too illiquid to have a fair market though no?
Granted if they are more expensive that could be really convenient
Create a loss from no loss
But that obviously wouldn’t make sense so no chance of that being the case
Looks like Otherside was a crowded trade - considering the gas fee most Apecoin buyers paid, they're getting rekt. So many free claims and land plots..
Does anyone know if there is a beginner's guide to the auto battler, like something that explains the different classes and synergies of illuvials?
Try infoluvial he has a good site
I had never seen 6000 gwei before.
They used a gas-inefficient contract AND didn't do a Dutch auction 
There's a word for that 😉
?
I'm going to play illuvium with my SMSF address just to piss my accountant off 🤣
Hi i want to stake ILV/ETH pool
Congratulations!
LOL what protocol do i pool it
Sushiswap.
Otherside art is quite good.
Wat if your accountant is pro tft… with over 100 silv2
Hahahaha he actually asked me for tips last year, I told him ETH and ILV.
Goodmorning!
GM everyone
When Land?
Before Eth goes to 1000 or 9000
No official release date. But word goes around that it might be end may early June.
gm
When will the game fully release and when will RevDis begin?
no official date has been announced Devs have stated pushing for Q2
did someone really make it to 30
think i saw that, i cruised to 20 the first shot at new map, pretty rough, cant seem to get past 13 now, dunno what i did at first
Mines better 💁🏼♀️
Yeah, there was a screenshot of someone getting to 30 and couldn't continue as game crashed
I heard there will be some degening again?

Wen a Milli
if it hits 1 million, they should do a gold atlas promo nft lol
Another NFT we can't win? 
speak for urself lol
I’m ready to buy some illuvium official merchandise.
when will i be able to download iluvium betaaa
Would be nice but I doubt they'll do anything. Already significantly more people signed up for the beta. Which begs the question, who's registering for a beta without bothering to watch the trailer? 🤔
I think Kieran said about 150k registered for the beta? I could be wrong, let's do some digging
Kieran said 1.5 million registered
Typo then? Does seem like quite a lot of people that.
Maybe the 1.5 million is for the newsletter?
@inner topaz wich of your posts is the correct one? 
Hi
Well it was at 150k the first week I'm sure it must be more but 1.5 m is crazy
Can apply multiple times to increase chances maybe people doing that
Who’s in charge of the emails? One job
lol just got a mail that says that tier 4 lane is 80 eht? wtf
Hey if the team wants someone proofing their emails I can do that 😂
that is kind of a robbery lol
Haha nah I noticed it first, i’m taking that job🤪
spend 80*3000 K on our tier 4 lane
Remember that it's a Dutch Auction
Starting price, Dutch auction brother.
I'll gas war ya for it
Still a robbery man
can we pay in the land sale in sILV2?
when will i be able to download iluvium betaaa
Yes
Decentralised employment, this is the way 👍 🤣
Then don't participate and you won't get robbed ;)
To be fair, most promo emails from any brand have typos. It's pretty sad
More land for us 😀
You aren’t supposed to pay the starting price…
They don't even read, starting price is the price where it starts
guys nft have had rediculus price, but cool, lets say they sell at 50 etherium then for the tier 4 lanes
Let me have T2 pls
people that have the money are going to pay the starting price man... or its going to fall to 70 eth, wuhu super cheap and affordable
lol no they are not
TBH the people staking would love them all to sell for 80 ETH, have you heard of revdis?
Only if they are really clueless.
why set it so high if not a couple are going to sell then.
Like no one in the discord is going to get tier 4, unless they are crazy rich anyways
Stops fomo gas war
Dutch Auction only works if you set the starting prices high enough
I hope I can get tier 1 for 1-1.5 ETH
that is correct, but the fomo is pretty strong in crypto
illuvium is going to show the crypto scene how to have a popular land sale without 6200 gwei.
Guys chill, ETH will be like $1,200 by then it's like nothing
How much does people believe tier 4 will fall? its cant be much, 50 etherium and every tier is sold out
Lol. It’s unfair that I can’t buy a penthouse in the CBD.
1 ETH is always 1 ETH 🙂
whales got thousands of sILV2
Community will decide
It’s so that even clueless idiots realise they shouldn’t buy straight away. Personally I think the team have over estimated the intelligence of the public. I would have set the starting price of every tier at 10 mil and started all tiers simultaneously.
cool way then to make whale be whales and fish be fish
Im thinking T4 around 18 ETH. Whales arent dumb and they wont pay more than they need to.
T1 for about 1-1.5 ETH hopefully
so you want whales to not be whales and fish not be fish?
what about the small lane? is that just gonna sell out at 2 eth then
You're on fire today!
land in general is not meant for everyone, not to say the higher tier lands
I was expecting T1 to be 1 ETH max 🥲 I'm poor
No lol, I am saying its a good way to keep the rich rich, and keep the poor poor
The firewater makes me stronk
Nope
That is still possible
when you say things like no one will be able to afford it, just sounds like I cant afford it so im gonna rant about it
You get a land, you get a land, you get a land!
why not? its freaking 10 times cheaper than the big lane, its probably gonna sell out at 2 eth and no one of the real gamers that are bullish on the game is gonna get anything
So still too cheap? 
like its pretty smart way to get a high evaluation, get people to talk and keep alot of people out of it
Any rough eta on land sale?
yea cheap in the way that it will be ripped off the shelf for 2 etherium
I think the lower tiers have a higher risk of being sold overvalued. Not a lot of people will be competing for the higher tiers so that will drive more demand toward lower tiers.
That and T2 is the most fuel generation/$cost. T4 is less capital efficient than a T1.
Because they arent worth 2 eth… it sounds like you might want to do some research.
and people hoping for it to fall are not gonna get shit, just because their economy is worse
T4 goes to 25% and T1 50%
thats how you maintain wealth
Dutch auction what a bummer.. Will wait for OS sorry.
Thats not what I am saying. I am saying its a pretty disgusting way to keep the small guy out of the project.
all the nft project that have done Dutch have sold out at rediculus prizes, and that is why they are doing it
T4 definitely wont be capital efficient, I'd say more social identifier.
I sincerely hope all t1 will be sold out at 2 eth a piece, I will thank you all
Can we take this to #🎮〕illuvium-zero
