💬〕general

[zenith fable]

All about how the game economy works out and the game itself, can't be getting ahead of ourselves just yet 😄

[native terrace]

Too late bought at $72 lol

[marsh trench]

Need a good product hopefully. People from 2017 are scared of ICO tokens

I still got augur and omisego tokens that promised the world and delivered disappointing products

[green widget]

Any update on when gameplay reveal will be?

[full dome]

my portfolio was brutalized by 2017 icos too, but once i read the tokenomics of this project i was beyond hooked. there is no vaporware/dream-selling here. it's real stuff.

[green widget]

Care to share anything that stood out that others might not know? Would love to hear some thoughts or nuggets of info from your research 🙂

[full dome]

what other project is so confident they consistently leak their dev progress? hah

[marsh trench]

Yeah I agree gaming DAO is way better than ICO tokens but still weary

[rustic mason]

and i do think we have first movers on gaming DAO which is AAA

[steep valve]

there are some interesting gaming projects but nothing close to where ILV is

[green widget]

When will Gameplay Reveal be guys?

[steep valve]

i just keep tempering expectations with myself because creating not only a game but a game with a functioning economy is a major feat

[green widget]

havent found answer anywhere

[native terrace]

I trust my instincts. I got into ZED RUN in 2019 = Fortune.. Splinterlands and bought 100s of plots = Fortune. Both those didn't even excite me they were both 'Ho Hum'. This one is exciting me beyond anything I have invested in so far. Bought Cardano ADA at $0.03 also. I trust my gut. Never sold anything HODL.

[full dome]

nothing that isn't in the tokenomics article or whitepaper really. 100% revenue distribution to token stakers is what immediately grabbed my attention

[full dome]

there is no date set for it

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-illuviumio-ilv-yield-farming-gif-22225026

[nocturne abyss]

Can I withdraw sILV before the stake terminated?

[marsh trench]

Oof I'm with you on zed.run from 2019. It worked out well but there was a long period where racing was vaporware and nobody understood horse algorithm and what the point of expensive horses was. I think this team is far more organized so I am confident

[bronze sage]

I only got into Zed about 2 months ago - though thinking of selling up and putting everything in here ILV

[marsh trench]

Best to be in these things early for sure

[marsh trench]

Haha I sold my genesis horses to buy axies and then sold axies to buy ILV so if we're lucky this is the final stop

[native terrace]

@marsh trench 100% dude. Bought a stable of Genesis Z1 to Z10s still holding. I thought the Z1 I bought were expensive in 2019 when they were about $400 each lol Arrrrr cheapest today are going for $70k+ 🙂 There is always risk but that is where the reward is.

I'm super mega excited about Illuvium.

My first fail? I doubt it.

[native terrace]

Depends if you have fresh funds or not. I try and buy and forget but maybe I am in a better position than others. Personally I would keep your ZEDs if they are Genesis Bloodline. The Genesis horses are just about over so prices only going one way in the future. If not then yea selling and putting in here might be a good move.

[azure burrow]

Perfect timing. Perfect project. Perfect ecosystem. This has so many earmarks of a unicorn if they can deliver by December.

[jovial hamlet]

Any time line when ILV is gonna get listed in Binance?

[azure burrow]

Listing depend on trading volume. Not there yet

[jovial hamlet]

what is the generally accepted trading vol to get listed in binance?

[azure burrow]

Depends as per project. Binance team member and illuvium rep make a plan together

At least that’s how it worked in 2017 when I was in the space. No clue how things work with a dao.

If the team would like us to reach out to them we’re here to help.

[past flume]

Marketcap is high though lmao

[azure burrow]

They want volume. Gotta pay the bills

[past flume]

Not much volume when there is 50$ gas fees though

[azure burrow]

Should volume fall below certain metrics=delist

Why there was so much wash trading in 2017 ico boom

[past flume]

?

[azure burrow]

Bots artificially trading. Fake volume to maintain exchange listings

[past flume]

Ahh I see

[honest sierra]

Just staked my ILV #BOOM

[red geyser]

Welcome to the family

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-illuviumio-gif-22179265

[heady kite]

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

🚫 Elchapo, you can't use that.

[bronze sage]

Ha - it was Zed that showed me the potential of "play to earn" and how the entire economics around gaming will change. I started hunting for "the next ZED that hadn't launched yet" and that led me here

[past flume]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-22842518

[prisma root]

Do you think we will see a price crash due to the bear market next year?

Or since ILV will just be heating up the price defy's the odds?

[bronze sage]

I'm 80% ILV, 20% Zed (with my NFT gaming $) but thinking of going all in ILV. I have 1 genesis Finney stallion and 3 x finney legendary mares as I'm breeding them. Early ILV seems better than late ZED.

[proud wing]

How do you know there will be a crash?

[lament phoenix]

gameplay trailer tm?

[azure burrow]

If ETH crashes, ecosystem will swim upstream a bit.

Nothing like the 2018 crash though.

[brisk silo]

dude, how much did you pay in gas if you've just staked?

[prisma root]

I was thinking the same thing. I finally staked this morning but I had to set an alarm for 3am lol

[mild swan]

Why have gas prices been so high literally all day? I’m just trying to stake!

[prisma root]

I guess with so much more sustainability behind crypto it would be crazy to imagine a market without a crash.

[honest sierra]

Too much

[brisk silo]

its been very high since wednesday

[prisma root]

Sooner or later it comes down to biting the bullet I feel like.

[mild swan]

Any particular reason?

[prisma root]

I used trust wallet but was quoted $75 and it only actually spent like $30.

[brisk silo]

the only reason I know people said was there was too minting going around, idk the specifics

[brisk silo]

That happens sometimes, doesnt it? It quotes you a value but doesnt spent everything?

Idk the reason for that though

[lean lodge]

Hi guys, newbie and glad to be here!!

[prisma root]

You know I'm just sitting here, listening to some lo-fi. Thinking about how there is so much more to Illuvium then what meets the eye. We are the pioneers. We have found something that could potientally change gaming forever. It's crazy to think you might have found the next Bitcoin...

[proud wing]

Fair, I'm more in the corner of "Lengthening Cycles." I'm not saying a peak next year can't happen, but not likely.

[prisma root]

Yes i have heard others say the same thing as well.

[abstract kestrel]

I know that sometimes wallets overestimate gas fees to ensure an instant transaction so maybe it just dipped and less gas was used idk

[honest sierra]

I paid less than half what I was quoted

[proud wing]

It quoted me $200AUD last night, but only paid $56

[prisma root]

I agree, I'm new to crypto actually but I believe the peak could be around February because of ETH 2.0. But I don't think alts will fall 70-90%...

I'm in the boat that I feel like I will ride ILV to 1$ because I don't think I will get the dip i'm looking for if I sell.

I'll sell and it will spike right back up while I'm laying flat on the ground trying to hop back on the train.

[proud wing]

Sweet, let me know when you sell and I'll buy some more 🙂

[prisma root]

Haha I'm staked away and now here for the ride.

I'll do my trading with things like Cardano and XRP.

[jovial hamlet]

when did u stake?

[prisma root]

less then 24 hours ago lol

[proud wing]

Enjoy the ride

[prisma root]

You know I came to crypto because of dogecoin and now I wonder why I wasn't into crypto years ago. Family and friends all stayed away from it and now I see how much better it is for the world.

[prisma root]

and yes I sold doge as soon as i started researching what crypto is supposed to actually be lol

[rancid mulch]

dogecoin was joke about crypto lol, how good or bad it is is arguable, but there will come some fantastic systems out of it

[proud wing]

haha, I'm not against Doge because I still hold some from 3-4 years ago. I was in it for the joke and still am.

[prisma root]

That's understandable, I was in doge at .40 cents lol.

[rancid mulch]

anyway I think it is way better then being shamed in trading platforms by market makers, at least you have some chance

[proud wing]

You found your way here as an early adopter and should pay off in the years to come.

[prisma root]

I feel like I finally did something right in crypto. I have had about 4 different youtube channels with differnt ideas, but when I found crypto I knew this was my niche. Then when I found Illuvium I knew I found my home.

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-baby-yoda-mandolorian-hello-gif-20136589

[pure fox]

welcome to da club

[polar plank]

https://tenor.com/view/wolf-of-wall-street-jordan-belfort-leonardo-di-caprio-one-of-us-jonah-hill-gif-5441859

[prisma root]

Haha I love it, this community is awesome which only drives the game even futher

https://tenor.com/view/happy-dancing-celebrate-excited-gif-13870839

[zenith fable]

Because most people don’t ever dig into it and only see it for the face value. Also lots of people aren’t intelligent enough to find out why crypto is a good investment opportunity to have within your portfolio even if it’s a tiny sum

[pure fox]

yeah people are very active here

[prisma root]

Absolutely, my impression of crypto for years was fake money that could be stolen. What I didn't know is that what the whales wanted me to believe.

[pure fox]

it's new ocean
so someone's just not wanna risk their money yet

[zenith fable]

You’ll find lots of very smart people in this space too, all the meme and get rich type of vibes might give the space a bad stigma

[pure fox]

but yeah so many possibilities here

[pure fox]

like this?

[zenith fable]

Wym ?

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-illuviumio-yield-farming-yield-farm-gif-22324807

[zenith fable]

loool

[prisma root]

At the end of the day its pretty easy to see who knows crypto and who is here from the hype. One of my friends has so much in Shiba and another in Safemoon and they don't ever hear me out on why they should invest into better projects...

[pure fox]

sadge.... then why you think this is a good project? 👀 😀

[prisma root]

My girlfriend thought I was crazy, she just doesn't get it lol

[zenith fable]

My girlfriend believes me after making a shit tonne off the bull market 🤣 thankfully I don’t have that issue of convincing

I’m banned from talking about it because I’m too hyped about ILV 😵‍💫

I think a lot of us get thrown into the bad corner whenever our missus’s get mad about us going on about crypto 🤣

[prisma root]

Good question, you see this game ranks under Safemoon and Shiba of course, but this project already has 10x more proof of effort put in to me. I can see the real dedication on creating a game that lasts a long time. But I got deep into crypto. Since I came in around April this year all I have done is researched crypto. Watched youtube videos all day. I get so excited about crypto, it's like learning a new language and it has brought true passion into my life. I learn what blockchains, NFT, all these terms people use in this space that I never understood before. I learned what makes a good crypto, and now Im here because of those things.

[prisma root]

I haven't had the honor of accomplishing such task yet to earn that lol

[eager epoch]

Ranks under safe moon and Shiba? 🧐

[pure fox]

that's pretty good answer . . . like a politician 😆

[prisma root]

If I had a few more minutes to type I could have done better, but I didn't want to get left out of the convo😆

[prisma root]

On coinmarketcap yes.

Oh Safemoon actually dropped to 558 lol, it was 202 yesterday when it was pumping.

[zenith fable]

it's like a stock, except the dividends might be a lot higher and paid out more frequently

as well as token appreciation which has a lot more potential vs stocks

[stoic flume]

Wooo feels good to be here! Thank you Dick Kingz!

[zenith fable]

After ILV, you can explain it to her in your lambo 😎

[prisma root]

That's the plan🤑

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/eben-driving-drive-toy-car-lambo-gif-15427016

[prisma root]

https://tenor.com/view/lambo-cardboard-car-gif-19550739

[pure fox]

oops wrong one

[zenith fable]

Bruh i kept putting in 5k over the course of a week hahaha every day

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/lamborghini-racing-car-gif-15406861

[zenith fable]

Market dip rn tho 👀

[prisma root]

Lmao I need to get on your level. Unfoutunately I don't have that much extra sitting around, but I plan on putting every dollar I can in the next few weeks.

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-smile-smiling-shopping-kitty-gif-18637617

[bronze sage]

Lol I have done the same pretty much, in aussie dollars though. Over the last two weeks every 2nd day or so I've bought more.

[prisma root]

I think the price will defintely go up when they release this new trailer.

[zenith fable]

Inefficient in gas fees but gotta do what you gotta do

[prisma root]

It still blows my mind how undiscovered it is...

[zenith fable]

The gameplay trailer and launch of the game will be when the major growth happens

[prisma root]

Well it was good chatting with all of you, think I'm going to head to bed and dream about Illuvium now😆

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/goodnight-शुभरात्रि-शुभ-रात्रि-गुडनाइट-gif-14966939

[zenith fable]

Good night bro, keep it up with the vids 😄

[zenith fable]

Sydney crew represent

[bronze sage]

Hey man! Yep, from Cronulla originally, though on the Central Coast now

[orchid ginkgo]

helo guys

does we have any news about close beta? how do i participate

[full dome]

no formal application yet, check out the last messages in #795444126421483520

[green widget]

Whens gameplay reveal?

[full dome]

no set date, but soon

[clever kelp]

Guys, no FUD, but a serious question. Currently gas prices are insane and with the proliferation of NFTs I don't see them coming down anytime soon.

In order to purchase things in game/ buy things on the marketplace etc you need eth right? Along with that you need eth for battling etc.
What is the process for sending eth to the IMX chain and getting it out?
Is it going to be wrapped eth just like Axie, and cost us 60 bucks to deposit, and 60 to take out etc?

[full dome]

please use bot commands in #👑〕bot-commands

[sage falcon]

jeff youre too fast for me

[olive plinth]

Jeff is always watching always waiting

[full dome]

completely valid concern imo

i've never set up an IMX wallet before, so i did it just now

it looks like, even at high(80+) gas it's only ~$17 to deposit? will see how much it is after txn goes through

[brisk silo]

imx wallet?

[full dome]

yeah IMX has a wallet you can connect your metamask with to xfer funds into and out of IMX

which will likely be the same wallet we'll use for ILV

[brisk silo]

imx stands for?

[full dome]

immutable X

!imx

[tidal garnet]

Illuvium uses Immutable X as a layer 2 solution. This means that you won’t be charged network gas fees within Illuvium and instead only need to transfer funds between the Ethereum Mainnet and Immutable X. This keeps the player's cost of doing business low, maximizing potential gain. For more information about Immutable X check out https://www.immutable.com/

[brisk silo]

to do the swapping though, its still costly, isnt it?

[full dome]

there are no gas* fees on IMX

[late quail]

Hi guys. Good afternoon how was your day?

[clever kelp]

Unlike Axie where you don't constantly need an influx of Eth to play(currently) it seems like Illuvium will require it. If it costs 30+ bucks to send from mainnet to IMX each time, it may limit the amount of players.

Really curious to learn the mechanics of this.

[olive plinth]

Did thee #🥩〕staking and #🎮〕illuvium-zero channel go away for anyone else?

[full dome]

you can sell everything within IMX for ETH on the marketplace after your first run if the gas fees to move ETH into IMX were too much for you

at 30ish gas you're looking at something like $5 fee to move your ETH into IMX, that's pretty good

[red geyser]

Huh I see them

[clever kelp]

That isn't too bad at all.

[white oxide]

sup yall

[obtuse patrol]

What's up?! How's your night going?

[zenith fable]

The issue here is if gas @ 30 is going to really be a common thing by the time the game is out

20 bucks deposit isn't much for some of us but that would be 1/3 of the quoted price to play ILV ($60)

[cerulean bane]

These are estimates for t1 areas. T0 is still free and playable

[obtuse patrol]

I think that's more than okay. If they aren't okay with spending 20$ to invest 60$...idek. People spend hundreds+ on games where you can't earn anything.

[zenith fable]

Yeah i guess our targeted demographics will be to slightly more wealthier people

[sage falcon]

not necessarily, because of the T0 area

[zenith fable]

Yeah that's fair

[sage falcon]

thats why i think the project is so strong, i say it all the time like its going to be enjoyable to play for free

[coarse plume]

Me, a gacha degen who has spent thousands on anime jpegs that I cant do anything with. Man, I wish I could go back in time and warn my former self not to waste money on gachas and instead save for the upcoming gaming revolution that Illuvium will bring

[zenith fable]

NFTs or are gachas just u paying for something u cant sell ?

[rancid mulch]

I suppose you could potentially make some systems in place to escape most of gas fees, but it would mean using banking systems

[zenith fable]

Yeah this might be an option if it does indeed become an issue. The good thing is the team is dynamic and would make any changes necessary if a problem were to occur, and are more than smart enough to know how to solve a potential issue

[sage falcon]

@prisma root gotcha https://discordapp.com/channels/760344898200666112/869632853598699611/875747667781779567 😉

[coarse plume]

gachas are typically mobile games based on anime IPs where you can buy a premium currency and then spend that on "banners" for a chance to get rare characters. Theyre not NFTS and you do not own these characters even if you do get them and the rates for them are typically atrocious - You can spend 1000s and not even get the new character.

[zenith fable]

Fuck lol

[coarse plume]

yeah.... lmao

[zenith fable]

Maybe people will in fact spend lots on illuvium to get a chance to earn then hahaha

[prisma root]

Well I’m glad I got on here before I went to bed. That was quite the announcement!

[zenith fable]

Damn this announcement tho

[glad fox]

DAng I wish I would have studied coding 10 years ago when I wanted to do it.....Started 7 months ago but I would have loved to be on this project

[coarse plume]

oh gacha degens will get very excited when they hear about Illuvium. Finally being able to spend 1000s but actually own the digital asset you get and then be able to flip it for a profit is a MASSIVE game changer that I hope will destroy the gacha industry and their predatory nature.

[sage falcon]

not what i expected to hear at 106am. unfortunate but im glad they're focused on delivering

[abstract kestrel]

7 weeks sheesh 😦

[silk heath]

Noooooooooo 2022 ok 😞

[timber ore]

wow another push back :/

[hollow drum]

Would way rather them be transparent and not rush the game. Thanks Kieran 🙏. Goodnight everyone.

[compact dagger]

god damn

[timber ore]

THis is the 2nd push back already, kinda sad tbh.

[plush magnet]

Thanks Kieran

[dusty plank]

Hell yeah take as much time as needed to get it right!

[abstract kestrel]

prepare to buy the dip boys

[wintry palm]

I mean, that’s what I’m saying

[naive marsh]

damn pr blitz to get people to stake and then no trailer 😦

[prisma root]

I mean it’s understandable I looked up on google how long it takes to develop a AAA game and it states 3-5 years👀

[timber ore]

Really really dissapointed tbh. Told so many people to buy into this with an open beta in Q4.

[rancid mulch]

Well , I was expecting delay , to much stuff to do, had hope that maybe it will not happen but it is what it is.

[rustic locust]

happy to hear the priority is getting it right rather than rushing it, full confidence in the team 🔥

[compact dagger]

i knew the timeline was way too ambitious given what little they had shown seemed crazy

[obtuse patrol]

awh shit. WELL, I'd rather an amazing game tbh. I'm sad about it but...also happy it should be better right?

[sweet carbon]

honestly, im just getting more excited about the game now that its being pushed back a bit

[timber ore]

Same, their sneak peaks were literally of characters doing basic motions, seems theyre nowhere near ready.

[prisma root]

Gives me more time to accumulate

[compact dagger]

7 week delay is probably STILL not going to be enough in all honesty...

[rancid mulch]

Prob not

[raven abyss]

why are people crying so much? they didn't cancel the game, they pushed it back a bit further

[obtuse patrol]

7 week delay is just for the trailer. They should be able to get a trailer out by then.

[timber ore]

Cause this is the second time.

[sage falcon]

Im very excited to see what we get with the trailer, knowing the talent thats on the team and the time they're putting in, ill be anxiously waiting for this release.

[zenith fable]

This gonna make price tank a bit?

[knotty marsh]

with today's market price, how much would you need to start a game? anyone?

[raven abyss]

so what? a couple months is gonna kill ya? wait patiently or sell all and leave the devs alone

[prisma root]

My only fear is Bitcoin crashing the price right when ILV should be exploding.

[hollow drum]

ILV isnt needed in game 🙂

[abstract kestrel]

maybe idk, some people will lose faith in the project for sure

[wintry palm]

It’s about what I expected from when I first heard about the game and the timelines given. Even a rockstar team and lots of funding along with a good game concept it’s bound to take more time .

[coarse plume]

I'm fine with delays. I'd rather they delayed it to make it perfect instead of caving to pressure and release it early/unfinished - we as gamers know how that plays out with things like Cyberpunk 2077

[knotty marsh]

oh, is dis free to play?

[prisma root]

I’ll buy their ILV...

[terse falcon]

well i guess ill buy more if this dips

[hollow drum]

!f2p

[tidal garnet]

You begin our game with a free-to-play experience that immerses you in our richly-detailed world, lets you enjoy some action, and helps you understand how the game works. The free-to-play experience of the Tier 0 regions will familiarize you with Illuvium, and won’t feel like an “abridged” version of the game. It is a full-fledged gameplay experience! If you like it, you can then decide to opt in to the paid experience, start collecting NFTs from higher tiered regions, and delve into deeper adventures to explore the mysteries of the game where the NFTs you gather start to hold more value as well.

Just after game launch, when everyone starts fresh, you might even be able to sell free Tier 0 NFTs on the IlluviDEX for ETH, but there is no guarantee for that.

[wintry palm]

It’s not the end of the world just surprised at the initial estimates given in the first place

[sage falcon]

a pushback will naturally cause doubters, not worried as like chris just said, i will gladly buy their ILV

[shadow dune]

ILV has potential but until they can successfully deliver, none of us can or should commit fully to this game as both a player and investor. The idea and concept is there but now the hard part is to make it a reality

[hollow drum]

free to play, pay to earn

[terse falcon]

7 weeks is a long delay though for a trailer

[abstract kestrel]

^

[knotty marsh]

so much do we need to pay approximately to earn

[tribal tartan]

Gotta love the announcement! ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️ ❤️

[prisma root]

If you give up on a game that is trying to be better at release, we’re you ever really committed to the bigger picture?

[hollow drum]

Say 50-100$ is a great place to start

[sage falcon]

a full cycle of travel and shard curing is estimated at $50, take a look at #❓〕faq for more basic info

[coarse plume]

NGL.... Im here for this scenario.

[timber ore]

i locked my coin for a year anticipating a q4 launch so yes, it matters to me.

[prisma root]

Why is that? To buy during that time?

[raven abyss]

lol fudders are fudding. Invest in stuff you think is worth it, don't invest for immediate gain. Goddamn crybabies everywhere

[coarse plume]

of course

[hollow drum]

There will be ups and downs along the way, the team has been transparent throughout I expect they are doing this in the longterm interest of the studio! Not everything can go to plan perfectly.

[zenith fable]

That's the risk you take when doing that

[hollow drum]

Exactly

[obtuse patrol]

So, you'll miss out on a couple months rev dis? It's not that big a deal.

[supple elk]

trailer moved back 7 weeks? or the game?

[raven abyss]

if you locked it at the start of the year, I'm sure you already have awesome gains. Please, by all means, take your money and leave or stay and let the the devs do their best without crying about it. you can definitely just take your money and come back to play the f2p. don't stay and moan about it

[prisma root]

I think it’s safe to assume if the trailer is pushed back 7 weeks that the game has to be pushed back at least 7 weeks too.

[limpid shale]

Wouldn't a delay be kinda good for you then?

[compact dagger]

the open beta is also pushed back. pushing back the trailer is essentially the same as delaying game

[knotty marsh]

btw, will this fluctuate or will it stay the same? if so where can I buy so i can reserve

[proud wing]

tbh, I don't see the big deal. A trailer is delayed by 7 weeks and Open Beta Q1, big woop. Rather a quality product than a rushed one with bugs and shit game play.

[hollow drum]

Trailer

[hollow drum]

Based on USD value

ETH and sILV used in game

[prisma root]

Think about it this way guys. What would tank the price more a delay or the game being glitchy at launch?

[dusty plank]

I mean, if you're fully committed as a player I'm not sure what that even means right now. There's no play to be had.

As far as investing, people can make their own decisions 😄

More than anything, the team is communicative, and that's 10/10 IMO. Name me a game that released FINISHED and on time per initial estimate. The list is very, very short.

Overall, this doesn't concern me even a bit, Illuvium needs to be released in a good state. Making a bad first impression with a buggy/unfinished game would be much much worse for the project than a relatively short delay will be.

I'm all in on the team, the direction the project is going, all of it.

[compact dagger]

@proud wing sure, but theres also situations where 1 delay becomes 5 (New World). not saying thats gonna happen here or that I really care personally, but i understand people getting worried

[coarse plume]

THIS ^^
Even Halo isnt releasing fully finished and thats got backing from Microsoft

[proud wing]

True, we rather not have a Duke Nukem situation. We all know the risk of investing into something this early. Just have to take it for now. I know it can get annoying and not trying to sugar coat it either. No one is perfect and shit happens.

[prisma root]

I can respect the team for not trying to hide it and leaving us wondering where the trailer is at for weeks then come forward about the delay. I can also appreciate the fact they didn’t release a shitty trailer. This is very bullish to me personally. This trailer will blow peoples socks off in a couple months.

[zenith fable]

I do feel like kieran should not be tweeting stuff like this out though personally

[wintry palm]

I’m not even phased by the delay and agree on it being the right call. Just that many people questioned the super ambitious timeline and hardcore supporters trusted it would happen anyway. And it’s just pretty much exactly as expected would happen. So yea it’s no big deal but is a bit of a downer .

[rancid mulch]

I think they had a demo trailer , so it might be about something else

[zenith fable]

Don't really know about that...I think there was only 1 trailer in mind everyone was thinking about

[wintry palm]

It’s not going to affect the success of the game . And it’s totally fine and not a bad thing. It’s perfectly normal development even with a good team that’s going to be successful

[zenith fable]

I think we can be all for transparency and accept they need more time, but I think Kieran should really chill with tweets like that if he is that adamant. Not a good look when it ends up being delayed by 2 months

[vernal vale]

i don't think it'll change too much. people who were skeptics will remain on the sideline for longer, people who were operating off belief will likely continue to do so. more staking rewards for everyone while others remain on the sideline I guess

[compact dagger]

thats fair

[wintry palm]

But yea you know what I’m saying

[coarse plume]

Kieran has admitted to being a bit too optimistic about timeframes. But the fact that hes also been so transparent about the progress of everything is extremely good imo

[zenith fable]

Yes it's good he admitted it and accepted that, hope he learns from these mistakes and we have a killer product. Great to see they are being transparent and taking the time to make something of quality

[rancid mulch]

It is all good as long as product comes out, do not really care about dips and drama in between it will all be irrelevant

[compact dagger]

yeah I mean as someone who anticipated delays this is really a nothing burger to me personally lmao.

[wintry palm]

Same here

[winter egret]

I think the anticipation and excitement can get to peoples feelings about delays, I found this project only 3 weeks ago and I’m excited I can only imagine what all of you are feeling that have been around for much longer especially for the team working to create something absolutely gaming changing!

[jovial hamlet]

I think if you believe ,best to buy and forget. I think thats the best way to make money in this space?

checking news abt it daily can really affect ur emotions

[rancid mulch]

Best for your mental health and not making rash decisions 😄

[empty rock]

I personally like the delay, cuz it gives me more time to accumulate lol

[azure burrow]

7 weeks is quite a miscalculation. Unfortunate for timing the holidays.

[karmic lichen]

In the corporate world, not really.

[sly bronze]

closed beta still next month guys?????

[supple elk]

I wouldn't mind if theres delays to improve the game. But I'd be happy to know when Kieran said there's exciting things coming in the next weeks that It would be TIER 1 EXCHANGE PLATFORM LISTING. ❤️

[karmic lichen]

No mention that it was delayed. But it could launch early Q4.

[sage falcon]

expected landsale date ? roughly ... gotta know if i have enough time staking silv

[jovial hamlet]

You wanna go Long on binance right? me too... hahahaha

[plain delta]

To be fair to Kieran, the original trailer which he was talking about had a smaller scope. I'm the one who made the call on the larger scope, which pushed it back. There was a small delay in announcement due to Kieran being hospitalized, and we apologize for that.

[pure fox]

so the trailer should be out on Oct/Nov right?

[sage falcon]

wait with the trailer its fine, stacking more ilv

[winter egret]

I don’t think anyone should be apologizing for coming up with a concept that can allow the community to enjoy the ride with the developers

[sage falcon]

blizzard would just say "coming soon"

[karmic lichen]

Lol

[zenith fable]

Ah okay, it's good to know that Kieran was talking about something else and not straight out bullshitting about it. No need to apologise for kieran being hospitalised..some things are more important than something like a delay, let alone an announcement, and that's your health and wellbeing.

[vernal vale]

Hope he's feeling better!

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/maybe-robert-downey-jr-sherlock-holmes-rdj-gif-4384335

[empty rock]

transparency is everything guys, love the fact that you're not hiding anything from us

[inner topaz]

We're also working on putting out a teaser as soon as possible, so you'll get a little taste of the action before the full thing, then you'll see why it was best to push it back

[plain delta]

Well the underlying mantra of our entire DAO is 'do it better, even if it is harder'. But sometimes that doesn't play well with timelines and we have to own that.

[pure fox]

get well soon! ❤️

[sage falcon]

right, mainstream game companies don't give a f, thats why i love nft game projects because legit ones share almost everything with the community

[plain delta]

There will also be an IIP that will go out in the next couple days that should make people happy.

[tame solar]

I am already happy

[winter egret]

Respect

[pure pike]

woah! thats even better, hope we see the trailer soon, putting time means putting more effort (well not necessarily but still) keep up the good work!

[cedar rivet]

Eta teaser?

[jovial hamlet]

Is he OK? what happened??

[pure fox]

trailer with X-mas theme 😎 🎅

[grim quarry]

These things happen mate and I think the call to Include more and spend the time to get it bang on right will long term far outweigh rushing something great but not excellent out in the shirt term. I feel based on most of the comments I'm seeing that the community has your trust and backing 100%

[azure burrow]

IIP?

[sterile wing]

The progress on the game has been great. Delay it to make it better is the right thing!

[coarse plume]

I was personally completely fine with Kierans optimism. And now that its been made clear that the delay is primarily to improve the trailers scope I'm even more okay with it and very excited to watch it. Hope Kieran is doing well - health takes priority over anything else

[plain delta]

He is ok. Recovering well. Nothing super major. No need to worry. 🙂

[sage falcon]

can anyone tell me roughly if the landsale is still like 1-2 months away or earlier, because i wanna get rewards in SILV if its ver close

[zenith fable]

How likely is it to get the trailer out within 8 weeks from now Aaron ?

[wraith ridge]

Land sale to be exchanged in sILV or ETH?

[plain delta]

IIPs are part of governance. Basically we are looking to upgrade something that I think will make a lot of people happy. It isn't an immediate thing, more like 4 - 8 weeks until implemented, but it's good.

[sage falcon]

i heard you can pay via SILV and ETH

[empty rock]

you guys have to keep yourselves healthy guys 😆 , we're putting so much faith in you

[plain delta]

Very likely.

[zenith fable]

Thanks for answering, i know that isn't something you want to guarantee or put a 100% tag on, so I appreciate it

[plain delta]

I don't think we have an eta on the land sale. Or at least not an exact one. But everything on Illuvium: Zero is progressing well except the art, and that doesn't impact the game development at all, and will be solved in the next few days.

[acoustic urchin]

Definitely appreciate the heads up! And sharing more of what the game has to offer is always better imo for a new launch so this delay totally makes sense

[winter egret]

If people do want to move SLP I’m happy to accept! 🥸

[zenith fable]

I know some people might not be thrilled about the announcement, but we should all appreciate the transparency provided by the team and the fact they are here in the general chat actively trying to talk and not shying away. In the short term, it might be a bummer for a lot of us due to the hype building up, but if we believe in this project like many of us do, optimising and making the trailer more special and the game will always be the best action for the game in the long term. Place your trust in the team and project, and I'm sure they are working their asses off to deliver.

[rustic locust]

Completely agree with this

[deft umbra]

hi

i am new to the server what is this server about

[vestal lintel]

lambo's and such

[solar drum]

At least we won’t feel the need to rush into buying ILV anymore. I can finally average down in peace.

[rancid mulch]

lol

[stable stag]

Timing the market is also proven to be very difficult. Time in the market will pay off

[winter egret]

If you like NFTs and can hold for the release could be a gold mine! 💰

[prisma root]

Wow much respect to them coming in here and talking about it. Once again I’m all for them improving the game because it only helps it in the long term.

[somber light]

I think it's fantastic that the devs are transparent and upfront with the community. It's a breath of fresh air in the gaming community

[prisma root]

Everything about this project is exceptional. The community, creators, game ideas, mods, and so much more is the perfect storm, for the perfect game.

[somber light]

Check out #❓〕faq . It should give a good overview of what this server and the game is about

[stable stag]

explain the mods part please. you mean moderators or actual game modifications?

[somber light]

He meant the community moderators

[azure lichen]

||hello there illuviacs||

[wide jasper]

You guys are the best team. Let the start be postponed, but we will approach the finish line prepared.
We are looking forward to it!! Just go ahead!!!🎯 🚀

[stable stag]

ty, just wanted to clarify haha. i do agree with his statement

[prisma root]

Moderators

[deft umbra]

thanks

[prisma root]

They are so resourceful and full of knowledge they are willing to share and work diligently at keeping these channels running smoothly.

[neat sable]

I really like how nice the community is by not being dicks about the delay

[sage barn]

You guys know how much the NFT is?

[azure lichen]

Which one lol

[vocal rose]

#835823822199717906

[azure lichen]

You know personally I’m even more excited for the gameplay trailer now.

[sage falcon]

good for you guys for delaying the game. i was concerned people would go the way of the cyberpunk

[azure lichen]

Heresy

We do not speak of that

[shadow dune]

yeah I agree with you that having a game that is in a good state upon release is better than a rushed game. The Illuvium team are indeed very open and communicate well with the community. I am also very optimistic about the project but in reality, no matter how great a game is, you must try it out for yourself and get that first hand experience. But its good that you are all in on the team so you are indeed in the right place

[azure lichen]

Imo Illuvium is already miles ahead of other NFT games so why rush it

[dusty plank]

This is more from a gamer perspective than a crypto perspective, but communication is a hallmark of good development, and this team has been killing it!

You are right though, the proof will be in the play - I'm really excited for closed beta (even if I end up sidelining and watching streams or whatever).

[shadow dune]

yup i agree!

[clever kelp]

Bruh, can I just honestly give a big round of applause to this team?
They are doing literally everything the exact opposite of what Axie is doing, and it makes me so bullish.

More competition from other games etc→"we need to push the trailer back a few weeks to make sure we really put out a kickass trailer"

"We are behind schedule. The game will be coming out Q1 2022"→Hey sorry guys, I fucked up, and I am taking responsibility for it by doing XXX.

Meanwhile Axie Team responses would be→ we will do what we want when we want, but no dates, and if you don't like it, well you aren't a "true believer."

[severe peak]

What languages are using the ILV team for the game development? There is a github that I can check?

[green sentinel]

Good on Kieran and the team being transparent earlier than later about the push on the beta release, full support on getting a better game out. As for the gameplay trailer, as much as I am super keen for it, I am happy to wait especially because it's going to be even better and longer (more to talk about and b-roll for me hahaha)

[azure lichen]

There’s a list of channels in other languages if that’s what you mean @severe peak

[vernal vale]

axie team too busy trying to pump the value on their stupid mystic axies to acknolwedge the fact that their P2Earn main currency has lost 70% of its value the last month

[clever kelp]

THIS

[severe peak]

For the game development

[shadow dune]

the issue with Axie is the inability to form a closed loop in their economy. Until they can form a self-sustainable in-game blockchain economy, I foresee a crash

[azure lichen]

What information are you looking for?

[green sentinel]

Got a video out today -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FCEXDG7YCgw

Got another one in the works which Im really excited for. Thanks for the support fam ❤️

[raven hinge]

ok more time for me to accumulate more ilv.. fine with me with the delay as long as it gets better since im planning to play the game

[vernal vale]

100% agree, it's unsustainable if you rely completely on outside money coming in forever, eventually you hit saturation and everything goes to shit

[shadow dune]

and because of that big pump in players recently, the saturation point is approaching fast

[clever kelp]

I do think the price of ILV will dump a bit when this news gets out, but I am looking forward to having more time to get money from my Axie teams to pump into ILV.

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/heart-cat-kitty-cute-gif-11087999

[azure lichen]

I’m not so sure the price will really dip a whole lot if at all but it’s fine with me if it does

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/illuvium-ilv-yield-farming-yield-farm-play2earn-gif-22647195

[azure lichen]

Hah

Was funny seeing ILV increase in value while ETH dipped

[severe peak]

If the illuvium team is hiring developers, and what are they looking for

[azure lichen]

Check out #865961705572794379

[pure fox]

that's what i'm typing lol

[severe peak]

thanks

[azure lichen]

No problem fellow illuviac

[sage falcon]

Anyone having issues getting on sushi to swap to SPL token?

[pure fox]

hey gas bot takes a nap again. . . oh come back

[red geyser]

!lp

[tidal garnet]

Providing liquidity for ILV is done via an ILV/ETH Pool on SushiSwap and requires a few different steps compared to staking only ILV. These steps are the following:

• You acquire a 50/50 ratio of both ILV and ETH (in $)
• You go to: https://app.sushi.com/add/ETH/0x767FE9EDC9E0dF98E07454847909b5E959D7ca0E
• After approving the contract (if this is your first interaction with it), you stake your 50/50 ratio of ETH and ILV in the pool
• You receive SLP tokens (To see them, add the SLP contract address to your wallet: 0x6a091a3406e0073c3cd6340122143009adac0eda)
• You go to: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
• You can now stake your SLP Tokens in the Sushi LP pool just like ILV is staked in the ILV pool.

If you never provided LP before though, make sure to understand IL: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained

[sage falcon]

Thanks seems to be my laptop, links working fine there 👍

[past flume]

Because everyone is sell eth for ILV baby

[earnest elbow]

As disappointing as it is I am so happy they delayed everything. The worst thing they could of done was release a 80% finished trailer missing core components!!

[lapis dome]

“A delayed game is eventually good, a bad game is bad forever.”

― Shigeru Miyamoto

[earnest elbow]

I'm a gamer more then I am anything 18 years of gaming and this proves true,

[lapis dome]

I've been gaming for about equally as long. While I have some soft spots for some older "bad" games, lots of them were rushed by greedy corporations. Which is why they were bad in the first place.

[neat sable]

Posting of youtube videos should be in #🎨〕community-content

[azure lichen]

I dare not count the years I’ve been gaming online.. I will say it was during a time you couldn’t use the housephone while connecting to the internet

Yes I said house phone. How many people here remember those

[lapis dome]

I do. I remember the screechy dial-up tone and using AOL.

[azure lichen]

^this guy knows

[acoustic urchin]

Yup 😁

[dusty plank]

Nothing like damaging your friend's TV playing Duck Hunt...
We've come a long way 😄

[azure lichen]

Lmao

[lapis dome]

Breaking our TV's with old Wii controllers...now upgraded to slamming our bodies into them with VR.

[azure lichen]

Oh no blick is talking about the days of the old plastic duck hunt gun

[dusty plank]

https://tenor.com/view/duck-hunt-nes-laughing-gif-9700788

[limber portal]

hi i have questions
trading using eth or ilv

[azure lichen]

Evil mutt… anyways what questions do you have @limber portal

[dusty plank]

Sure! If it's related to buying ILV we can move to #💰〕token

[lapis dome]

I know. That's 90's style. Wii remotes were 2010's style...and 2020's is VR body slamming.

[limber portal]

thank you\

[azure lichen]

Truth. Though the original Nintendo was released in 87 iirc May as well have been the 90’s though

[lapis dome]

My brother probably would've gotten that right. Since he's 10 years older than me and actually owned one.

[azure lichen]

[vagrant inlet]

As much as I wanted to see that trailer & play open beta later this year, this is 100% the right call. I don't have any doubt the team is throwing their all into this project and you can't rush perfection, plus more time for accumulating cheap & staking rewards before the pool gets absolutely flooded is a blessing.

[magic magnet]

Throwback

[azure lichen]

I’m nostalgic

[granite yarrow]

Nothing like being the friend that invited you over xD my parents hated that stupid game ajajaja

[lapis dome]

The only NES/SNES games that I can actually remember playing in my childhood was excitebike. That was only because it was in the OG animal crossing.

[dusty plank]

I'm still mindblown at SMB3 and how good it was for NES.

I'm also pretty sure SNES is the best gaming platform that ever existed haha - people were trying some wild shit out back in the day.

[lapis dome]

My favorite Kirby games were on that system.

[azure lichen]

It was fun way back then because it was the frontier of console gaming

[magic magnet]

Anyone else miss blowing into a cartridge and aggressively pushing it back to get it working again

[azure lichen]

I’m not sure I’ll ever miss that frustration lmao

I wouldn’t trade the memories though. Love it

[dusty plank]

Some of the game design stuff they figured out on SNES has never really been replaced - anything "realism" based got blown out of the water by modern consoles (racing, sports, shooters), but for RPG elements, 2D platformers, stuff like that, I'm not convinced that anything has actually improved much lol

[lapis dome]

Only some indie games bother to try and simulate such things. AAA companies just go for the low hanging fruit, tbh.

[azure lichen]

Not to mention gameplay obviously had to carry the lack of graphics

[frank wing]

No worries on the delay guys, just make the best product you can make. As long we can play by end of Q1 🙂

[dusty plank]

https://tenor.com/view/imagination-land-south-park-imagination-gif-5897929

• Gameplay

[lapis dome]

And it was all good, since you got actual complete games back in the day and micro-transactions didn't exist.

[dusty plank]

True! The internet actually kinda fucked us in a lot of ways lol
No Day 1 DLC on old school consoles

[slate tinsel]

So imagine the revdis possibilities when the trailer draws people in and then IZ launches the next week 🚀 I hope the timelines match up

[azure lichen]

Double edged sword I tell ya

[zenith fable]

When is IZ's target launch date?

[lapis dome]

Or paywalls for good loot or for a pack that should've been a free update, but the company wants to charge full price for it. CoughEACough

[magic magnet]

Or frustration of it not working and you can't work it out until one of your sisters admits to jamming a pencil into the cartridge🙃

[sage falcon]

!roadmap

[clever kelp]

Alright guys. Confess. How many of you guys believe holding/staking ILV will make you more than a fraction of raising/selling Illuvials?

[dusty plank]

Unfortunately we don't get access to bot commands xD

[dusty plank]

They kinda go hand in hand 😄 If I'm making boatloads selling Illuvials, I'm also making boatloads off revdis. Win, win, win. (3rd win is taking a month off work and eating pizza pops)

I think the potential for crazy ass NFT gains with Illuvials is real though. I could easily make more off gameplay.

[clever kelp]

My plan is to have 4/5 「Illuviknights」who play accounts that I fund, and they get to choose either a daily wage, or a % of sales.

[celest eagle]

New to Illuvium, hello! I'm looking to get started and I'm debating staking - while I see the advantage of growing more ILV rewards early on, I'm wondering whether it's the best use of funds to get set up for ultimate success in the game.

My thinking is whether it would be better to separate an investment into 3 parts:

• stake one third in ILV to grow
• save another third in ETH to pre-order land once it's available (since it will help in-game resource yields)
• and the final third store in ILV or ETH, specifically to have in-game currency available and un-locked to use to get started at launch

Appreciate any input! 🙂

[zenith fable]

tf are illuviknights

[slate tinsel]

All of the above 😆

[clever kelp]

I don't know man it sounded better than Illuvislaves.

[zenith fable]

Where can i get me some illuvislaves

[slate tinsel]

ILV can’t be used in game but I’m doing all of what you have said

[celest eagle]

Excellent, thanks for the sanity check!

[slate tinsel]

You can stake ILV to gain sILV which can be used to purchase land

[clever kelp]

I think Axies current success is solely due to the ability of those with money being able to be angel investors basically for those without, lowering the entry cost, while still creating demand.
I think ILV will take off if there is some kind of way for those with less $ to be provided ways to play without having to work their way up from the bare bones F2P bottom.

Curious to see what method the community comes up with.

[lapis dome]

I just need to find out where to get some money to buy some of this "ETH" 🤔

[light sable]

Imagine some cranky people are throwing a tantrum about having 7 weeks more time to stake and earn sILV to spend later ingame...

[sage falcon]

i can decide between ILV and sILV when I withdraw the rewards right?

[lapis dome]

Axies doesn't even allow a demo or a 'trial' just to see if you like the game or not. You have to put money down (600$ currently) and if you don't like the game, well...that's quite a pickle. I heard about it from my Big Bro and it sounded good, but the more digging I did the more confused and uninterested I became. Not to knock Axies, but not even a playable demo? Really?

[clever kelp]

Scholarships are the trial, that allow you to make good money without having to pay a single penny...
Without them axie would be nothing right now.

[twilit junco]

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-cup-good-morning-cute-puppy-yawn-gif-14168332

This channel is getting a bit clogged with topics again that should be elsewhere, so just as a reminder:

Anything about ILV token, price, market cap, supply... => #💰〕token
Anything about land, land sale, mini-game... => #🎮〕illuvium-zero
Anything about LP vs ILV only staking, APY, Impermanent Loss... => #🥩〕staking
Anything about general ILV topics without their own channel => #💬〕general
Anything not related to ILV at all => #795845536128303175 or #799010390201466880

Thanks 🙂

[lapis dome]

I don't really know the full extent on Axies. Scholarships are just you being hired to grind money out for someone. I do see why it's there, but still. It could be better.

[clever kelp]

I just think it will be nice to have some way to for example allow someone to use your illuvials without being given full access to sell them etc.

[acoustic urchin]

morning

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-baby-yoda-mandolorian-hello-gif-20136589

[noble onyx]

Can I buy ILV with XRP on SUSHIswap?

[dusty plank]

It doesn't look like it, no.

[noble onyx]

Ok, so I can only use ERC20 tokens to buy?

[dusty plank]

Our liquidity pool is ETH/ILV, so ETH is the best way to buy!

You could try and buy directly from a CEX, I think Gate.io has some amount of ILV, but you'll generally pay more for it there.

[twilit junco]

For anything else about the ILV-token, please use #💰〕token thanks 🙂

[noble onyx]

Thank you I will use ETH. What would happen if I do something like this? There would be no pool for it?

[noble onyx]

Ok sorry will do next time

[ashen nest]

Stormi whats your thoughts on the delay announcement ?

[twilit junco]

There have been minor hints at the possibility during interviews for a while and knowing game development and understanding the scope the team is trying to achieve here, I'm not surprised by this at all. Another delay after this would be something I'd find worrisome from a publicity/marketing point of view as it should simply have been Q1/Q2 right away as new estimate rather than Q1 but I'm hopeful that the new target is something they actually can deliver on and in that case I'm very happy to see them favouring quality over rushed releases just to keep up with a wrong estimate 🙂

[ashen nest]

Totally agree Stormi

[summer jewel]

guys,
9% of ilv total supply is in circulation right?
so if the remaining 91% release will directly effect the price in a negative way
My question is do you know how will the remaining total supply release in future?

[green widget]

Damn bro so bummed to hear the 2022 delay news

[ashen nest]

Roar there is loads of info in the Token section to answer your questions

[green widget]

and a 7 week delay for gameplay trailer. I know this will excell long term but on the micro i wonder how this will time with a potential crypto peak in december

[twilit junco]

!read 2M Seed tokens and ~100k team tokens will start unlocking daily and linear over 12 months as of end of March 2022. So will ~1.4M team tokens but over 36 months instead. Also:

[tidal garnet]

Some important sources of information that everyone interested in and/or new to Illuvium should take a careful look at are:

https://docs.illuvium.io/
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507

[twilit junco]

For anything more about this, please use #💰〕token thanks 🙂

[summer jewel]

thanks for the help guys!

[jovial hamlet]

Nicely put

[jovial hamlet]

Is it better to buy ilv via gateio or sushiswap?

[twilit junco]

Most buy via SushiSwap. It's where the official liquidity pool is as well 🙂

[sage falcon]

Trying to stake and gas fee is over $100 lol

[jovial hamlet]

It may be only half of it. I had incidents of gas where metamask be askin for 100 and it ended up with 50. But that's for nft Minting tho

[sage falcon]

I hope you’re right. I stayed up late chasing lower gas fee.

optimistic the game may come out in q2 2022

[light sable]

your 1 inch would be sold for eth and then eth would buy ilv. you would basically pay 1 transaction fee for 2 transactions which is the better option rather than manually swapping your 1inch to eth and then that for ilv paying 2 transaction fees

[clever kelp]

Is staking V2 getting delayed as well? I am waiting for that before I stake...

[rotund arch]

is this like a play to earn game?

[mossy storm]

What is Staking V2?

[meager bear]

its like uniswap v2 and v3

[waxen canyon]

hello everyone

[meager bear]

Hello. Yes its play 2 earn game

[solar drum]

Does anyone use 1inch? I don’t know how to unlock token so I can swap AXS FOR ILV

Or AXS for ETH

[west crow]

Hello everyone!

[tender kernel]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-baby-yoda-mandolorian-hello-gif-20136589

[tidal garnet]

AMK#7253 has been warned

Reason: Posted an invite

[neat sable]

Please remove this

@humble wave - thanks

[humble wave]

No worries

[rough bone]

more time to buy ilv before release. i rather have them delay the game than become the next cyberpunk 2077

[twilit junco]

To be honest, Cyperpunk was delayed multiple times and even then the released product was flawed. I am absolutely in favour of prioritizing quality and a polished product but if you delay now to Q1, you also got to deliver a polished product in Q1 in my opinion. If you cannot with unwavering confidence say that it's done in Q1 when you announce a delay, then don't say Q1 in the first place. It only causes loss of trust and could quickly spiral into a bad publicity trend that severely could hurt the project.

[viral garden]

Damn, kinda shitty they waited till the last day of the month to announce a delay in even the trailer….

[rough bone]

@twilit junco cdpr bad management

[south mist]

Hey guys

[twilit junco]

@lapis stone #🛒〕land-dex 🙂

[clever kelp]

I am glad they are being transparent, but I think this announcement needs to be done on twitter as well.

[lapis stone]

Got it, thanks

[clever kelp]

Don't want investors/possible players thinking the team is trying to be slick in order to prevent a sell off. Better to be completely open, and let people see just how dedicated the team is to transparency.

[late quail]

Hi guys, there so many news i missed for a day. Need to catch up hehe

[inner topaz]

This honestly wasn't our intention, the team is working in overdrive, and usually, I handle huge announcements like that. I suddenly had to have emergency surgery and so was out for a few days. Tbh, it's still no excuse, we should have announced it earlier, I'm just letting you know it wasn't intentional

[late quail]

It's alright, we still look forward to it. Speedy recovery 🚀

[velvet tide]

7 weeks will pass by quickly

[velvet tide]

Thanks for the honesty and transparency, thats worth more to me than the pain of any delays

[late quail]

Yeah, with so many things happening in discord everyday haha

[twilit junco]

The trailer now also includes overworld gameplay and story instead of "just" auto-battler, so there's even more to be excited about when it actually hits 🙂

[velvet tide]

Yeah, it will be even better then the one that would have come out now

[inner topaz]

I think it's pretty clear we aren't trying to avoid telling our investors. We will post on twitter but we'll do it with a medium post explaining the pros that come with delaying the game

[tiny cave]

i wonder what the delay will do for the march token unlock

[clever kelp]

Don't get me wrong. I know your intentions, and I was one of the people up earlier in the chat praising the openness. I just want everyone else to see that the team is admitting their timeline was a bit too optimistic, but that you guys are working around the clock to get things up and running.

It is a good look.

[next surge]

Probably nothing ?

[tiny cave]

early investors might take more profits because the project is delayed. If the project was executing and delivering ahead of schedule, thats more of an incentive to hold and not sell early

[neat sable]

It's very good with the delay means i can fill more ILV in before it really takes off

[velvet tide]

yeah sucks a bit that VCs basically can dump into the hype liquidity when game launches

[grim quarry]

Are we thinking that everything is pushed back 7 weeks roughly or future milestones pushed back further?

[tiny cave]

eth staking unlock in march also

[inner topaz]

When we chose seed investors, we made sure to choose the ones that understood the revenue distribution model. The vast majority are waiting for that, and that doesn't start until the game launches

[velvet tide]

but they obv wont give up their right to sell later

[tiny cave]

All you can do is just position yourself accordingly just in case

[lethal flax]

Wen game?

[twilit junco]

Q1 next year 🙂

[clever kelp]

Q1 next year could mean April though. I think this is gonna be an interesting ride.

[velvet tide]

I dont know why this misconception floats around so much, but it has been said multiple times that the merge fork wont include withdrawal function, that will come in the next "clean-up" fork after

[clever kelp]

Atleast I don't have to rush to buy before the gameplay trailer now though. That is a win for me. May add more scholars as that is immediate ROI and then slowly accumulate more ILV before the game trailer.

[velvet tide]

Thats what I said basically

[hexed wren]

Idk i've seen lots of delays in other projects, so I was expecting delays here as well. My prognosis is Q2 2022 for the open beta to launch. Will be happy to be beaten with earlier release😁

[velvet tide]

will be interesting to see

[dusty plank]

TBH seed investors selling is a good thing for the public if you think Illuvium will be successful. It's just an opportunity to pick up more ILV at low prices.

Not that I expect they would sell, but it certainly wouldn't be terrible if they did.

[somber burrow]

the token is still holding up pretty well. I'm a little surprised

[late quail]

Yea we have a lot of support around 400-500

[earnest drift]

To me and few guys here. I think we knew it will be delayed. Its not like its delayed 1 year. Its only 1 Quarter. Pffft big deal.

[twilit junco]

We did lose a bit on the ILV/ETH ratio but a part of the drop right now is also ETH itself going down a bit. US people are still not up fully yet, so there could be some more impact from the delay announcement within the next hours. I still believe though we have a very strong support and unless ETH goes down a lot, I don't think we'll see anything below $400 again.

For anything else in regards to token price, please use #💰〕token thanks 🙂

[earnest drift]

ETH and BTC still has not finished its cycle. We are fine.

[somber burrow]

Yes, I agree. Q4 was extremely optimistic

[earnest drift]

How is everyone evening, just kicking back waiting for me lol. Looking at laptops for the game. Might score a bargain after Xmas sales..save some bucks..

[twin fjord]

trying to play gw2 and keep up with chat is surely a mission

[quiet fog]

@inner topaz I 100% support this delay. Underdelivering here could have lasting reputations damage. Do what you need to do to deliver an AAA quality product and make sure the trailer fully does the game justice. Seven weeks is nothing. A few months delay with the beta is nothing

Almost everything good and novel in crypto has seen delays in development, including the original eth launch. In the long run, no one cares. What they care about are projects that overpromise and come up short. Excited to play the game in Q1 next year, and will keep stacking ILV in the meantime

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-baby-yoda-mandolorian-hello-gif-20136589

[drowsy coral]

Is staking worth it?

[earnest drift]

For me it is..

[drowsy coral]

Can I calulate how much I would earn by staking 1 or 2 coins with apt calc

[somber burrow]

a calculator and further information on staking can be found here:
https://www.publish0x.com/ilvfi/staking-illuvium-ilv-part-2-what-are-the-rewards-xgljgle
not bad for a first glance

[past flume]

Too fast to make a game

[hardy pawn]

Have you actually looked at the staking Est APY's? Look then decide yourself man, taking in to account the eth gas fees... https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core

[somber burrow]

absolutely

[glad burrow]

Any of you investing into SOL nfts?

[steep valve]

Getting it right > meeting arbitrary deadlines

[late quail]

we have #795845536128303175 channel for that. hehe

[steep valve]

Further supports the view that the team is both in it for quality and longevity.

Also, we don’t need hype right now. That can work against an early phase project because the pressure to deliver gets amplified. Would love to see there be a steady stream of hype leading up to launch, not starting too early

[runic hawk]

Hi im new here has anyone helpful tips for noobs ?

[twilit junco]

!welcome 🙂

[tidal garnet]

Welcome! Wondering where to get started and learn more? The #791148036935516161 section has all the information you need. From a brief overview to links that lead to highly detailed information. Also, be sure to check out these channels in the discord to stay up to date: #✍〕rules #📣〕announcements #❓〕faq #🚰〕leaks

[quick spindle]

Oh baby-- all of the channel links are now functional in this bot response ⬆️ Sweet! 😄

Happy Monday!!

[twilit junco]

Yeah, I found a way to fix them for the latest update by Danny. Kept annoying me too much 😄

[thorn plover]

https://tenor.com/view/feels-good-man-nicolas-cage-gif-5444501
Functional links be like:

[coral dirge]

https://tenor.com/view/blue-balls-bounce-gif-11097250

7 weeks gunna get me

[glad burrow]

What do you guys think of aurory

Play to earn game that will release on solana

[olive glacier]

Why the ILV price is going down?

[light sable]

because selling

[glad burrow]

Because tons of other projects

[twilit junco]

Because ETH is going down a bit and because a bit of selling is going on (for some probably due to the delay announcement, see #📣〕announcements ) For more about token price, please use #💰〕token thanks 🙂

[twilit junco]

That's more of a topic for #795845536128303175 or #799010390201466880 🙂

[quick spindle]

Honestly, never heard of it 🙂 Maybe #799010390201466880

[glad burrow]

Cool

[frank notch]

Selling because trailer and game delays

[thorn plover]

They're going to be quite heavy by then..... 😉

[round hawk]

how do i send my illuvium to my metamask wallet 😄

[quick spindle]

Hey Redman-- where is your ILV right now? If it's in another wallet, there should be an option to send or transfer it to a different wallet. And you could copy/paste your Metamask address in the space provided

[round hawk]

is at gate.io

[round hawk]

will my eth metamask address work? i cant seem to find an illuvium address

[quick spindle]

Yup, that's the one 😄

[coral dirge]

Id say impatient ppl after the delay announcement. fingers crossed it drops more so can top up for a 5th time (yes im killing myself with gas).

[quick spindle]

ILV is an ERC20 token on the Ethereum network, so you'll use your Metamask ETH address for those tokens @round hawk

[round hawk]

awesome thanks @quick spindle

[wild zinc]

difference between Q4 and Q1 is at best 3 months and at worst 6 months. I dont think delays are big deal

[spare owl]

https://c.tenor.com/T8xYwP8lKN4AAAAM/homer-simpson.gif

[kindred blaze]

hello everyone! is there a whitelisting process for this project? been lurking for the last few days but I want get more involved.

[ocean moon]

Newbie question...if i stake in the ILV pool under flexible and do not extend the date for additional APY, can i withdraw my rewards immediately or do the flexible trades still have the one year vesting?

[full dome]

all rewards are locked for a year regardless of your stake length, but your initial flexible stake can be removed whenever you'd like

[ocean moon]

got it thanks jeff!

[quick spindle]

No whitelisting process. Closed beta is expected in the next few months and if you take a look at the message from Aaron in #795444126421483520 he mentions a form. That form hasn't been released but if you're interested in testing during the closed beta and think you'd be an asset to the team during that time, definitely fill out that form once it's out 🙂

Otherwise, open beta will be available to everyone in Q1 2022-- no special process needed other than downloading and installing the game then!

[kindred blaze]

thanks for the info

[zenith lagoon]

hey there

[steep valve]

Sir this is the Illuvium discord

[zenith lagoon]

one question i been thinking about, how would the game prevent users to utilize bots or tools that assist them when fighiting on battles, for example what prevents me from creating a fighting bot that automatically analyze my opponent monsters and chooses the best strategy for me to defeat him

[hexed wren]

people still play chess and poker, though there are algos which play better 🤷

[viral garden]

Thanks for being honest, I’m also just salty and impatient, I can wait 🙂

[prisma root]

I have some great videos planned for this week! I’ll be releasing one this afternoon around 5pm! Make sure to subscribe now because it’s something you won’t want to miss out on! Also I’m not trying to be that Youtuber who spams the chat, but my videos are geared towards helping you understand more about Illuvium and how it all works!

[modern mantle]

Why did they choose ethereum over solana

[civic mason]

because ETH sounds cooler ... duh

[neat sable]

Because solana owns over 50% of the tokens - And thats scary @modern mantle

[modern mantle]

Thts a solid reason. I jus see alotnof new projects going on solana but i guess this ones huge maybe solana is too new and might not be able to handle it and eth can?

[neat sable]

nah i think both chanis is able to have Illuvium on them

[gritty jewel]

exactly. I rather it be delayed and be a hit at release than reliving the Cyberpunk experience...

[modern mantle]

So solana is better in the fees aspect but they own half the coin thats why they can afford to pay the fees for the contracts for us?

[modern mantle]

Cyberpunk was delayed like 30 times lol

[full dome]

they gave up a commitment to decentralization in exchange for performance and lower fees, to simplify it

[modern mantle]

Doesnt that kinda defeat the purpose

[gritty jewel]

yet it was still released 2 years too early

[earnest elbow]

ETH is king. I

[full dome]

there's a really good article on the "trilemma" that all blockchains face
https://education.district0x.io/general-topics/ethereum-scaling/ethereum-scalability-trilemma/

good reading for anyone interested, really

[modern mantle]

Ok im at “work” rn going to read this lol thx

[proud rose]

Hey what's up guy's?

[modern mantle]

“Fees got so high in december 2017 that some users were paying 25$ a transaction” lmaooooooooo rip

[brisk silo]

Lol what about us now then

[full dome]

hahaha yeah it dates itself with that quote doesnt it 😄

[quaint storm]

https://tenor.com/view/summer-child-my-sweet-summer-child-old-nan-game-of-thrones-gif-5580217

[modern mantle]

It talks about proof of stake as a solution and thats essentially what Eth 2.0 is correct? So things should be much better then

[full dome]

yep!

i'm pretty ready for 5 gwei again, claim all dayyyyyyyyyy

[modern mantle]

Ye im reading even more on it and i see why eth 2.0 is so hype

[velvet tide]

low issuance is no1

[topaz bobcat]

hey what network is this going to run on?

[velvet tide]

Immutable X, a Ethereum L2

[topaz bobcat]

Thanks fren

[velvet tide]

your welcome, any question is good

[modern mantle]

Can u explain further?

[cedar rivet]

When can we expect the theaser of trailer?

[fallow jolt]

Regarding the announcement (@illuvium team), you should update your roadmap asap, seems unprofessional when such a big project with so much $ invested is lazy in that regard

[arctic gulch]

They just announced the delay, relax

[fallow jolt]

I didn´t mean to be rude ^^, was just my 2 cents 🙂

[frigid dome]

What do you guys think about the delay? I’m a little bit disappointed but at the same time expected it, I would’ve hope that they at least release the initially planned trailer, and then 7 weeks later release a better trailer or an extension, that way at least we get to see the progress instead of just a bunch of pictures

[velvet tide]

basically right now ETH runs with PoW meaning that around 13.5k new ETH get issued everydat which all go to miners. Those miners sell to cover their cost and basically sell 80% of that 13.5k ETH every day more or less.

Under PoS validators (people that stake 32 ETH and run a validator) will get the issuance. Under PoS we will have around 1-1.5k ETH issuance every day going to people that are ETH holders and dont have to sell for electricity as running a validator is not very compute intense.

This means we will see a drop in ETH issuance of 85% while the newly issued ETH going to ETH holders. This will create a massive supply shock in the market equal to 3 Bitcoin halvings, and it will happen in the next 6 months.

Combined with EIP1559 which burns ETH, Ethereum becomes net deflationary.

TLDR: ETH to 20k in the next 12 months, mark my words

[hexed adder]

Feels like a reaction to star atlas and their marketing success imo. Need to go bigger and better

[modern mantle]

U explained it better then my googles, thanks! Tht is actually insnae and will helpt this game as well if it comes to fruition

[rancid adder]

I feel this is going to happen. We will have a teaser trailer pretty soon. Then in 7 weeks, we will get a really complete trailer with story element.

[shell stag]

Is there any to get ilv from? Eth gas fee is very ridiculous. I just want to dca about 100$ and I have to pay 60$ for gas fee.

[cursive hamlet]

o7 to best community

[cerulean pier]

gas fees are silly on eth, cordano is trying to use there coin to reduce gas fees on the eth network. see what happens with that over the coming months

[shell stag]

Hoestly I really like this project and I really want to buy ILV but gas price is very stupidly high

[cerulean pier]

different times of the day the gas price will rice and decrease. I've seen it as high as 140$ recently

[shell stag]

I have never seen it lower than 30$

[cerulean pier]

nft sales having a boom recently has pushed the gas fees higher than usual#

[vital bloom]

Any chance of changing the "fight for ETH" tagline?
I was really hoping the focus would be on Illuvium being a good game first, rather than a paying job. I think it gives the wrong message

[sage falcon]

Brrrrrr

[civic mason]

I disagree completely, thats one of the main aspects of the game that separates it from traditional video games.

[neat sable]

has been proposed and denied :/

[full dome]

i heard they were changing it to "get your eth on"

[clever kelp]

Holy crap where can I find the original of this?

[vital bloom]

Was this in a formal manner, or just in disc chat or something?

[neat sable]

Someone proposed it and kieran said no it already decided

[plain delta]

https://tenor.com/view/neat-thats-pretty-neat-smile-gif-14911905

[runic hawk]

Maybe a Bit Late but thx alot 🙏

[vital bloom]

Mmmm, thanks for the feedback. That's probably the first aspect of this project that got me a little concerned about the direction. Seems silly to simultaneously talk about big esports prize pools (seeking fair~ competition), and have the essence of the game being an extrinsic reward system..

[vocal rose]

Kieren mentioned that they will have a teaser clip out soon in advance of the new expanded gameplay demo

[vital bloom]

As an aside, is ETH actually being rewarded in the game? I thought it was going to reward sILV tokens for in game use?

[frigid dome]

HELL YEAHHHHHHH

[vocal rose]

Read the documents and fancy marketing pics and still literally have no clue what Star Atlas is 🥲

[frigid dome]

sILV is just a reward token for stake holders, eth still remains as the main currency in game

[full dome]

hahaha i screenshot that too 😄

[compact garnet]

Hello guys im new here, what should i do first?

[vital bloom]

So when the notes refer to "in game yield" for completing quests etc. is that in ETH?

[modern mantle]

Read the white paper, watch some of kierans podcast hes on,

[tame solar]

Hey, check out #❓〕faq and #791148036935516161

[compact garnet]

ok thanks guys ❤️

[dense flame]

kick back, relax, and wait for $5k ILV 🥂

[compact garnet]

i dont have any ILV Tokens 😦

[tame solar]

https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1432325523988959235?s=20

Jack Posobiec 🇺🇸 (@JackPosobiec)

BREAKING: China has forbidden under-18s from playing video games for more than three hours a week

The government described it as a ‘spiritual opium’ https://t.co/OTFoOxduXp

Retweets

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Twitter · Aug 30, 2021, 12:53 PM

[timber scroll]

lol the Metaverse gon hit them hard XD

[rancid adder]

That would be ILV, since 1m of the ILV supply is dedicated to this. However, I suspect it will be over a really large timeframe. Could be quest, tournament, event, etc...

[twilit junco]

Correct, it's 1M ILV right now. Nothing stops the DAO from putting up a proposal and allocate even more ILV for in-game yield from sales and/or revdis if we see benefits in doing so 🙂

[hot oar]

Wondering what are the news for the upcoming weeks before trailer that Kieran said on #📣〕announcements 🧐🧐

[supple elk]

TIER 1 Exchange Platform Listing🚀💪

[hot oar]

That could be even better for token price, more than trailer I think 😆

[steep valve]

Seems CEX listing is unlikely until 2022 because liquidity is fairly low currently. Also game not out yet.

[topaz bobcat]

when we will be able to buy critters and stuff - everything will be priced in eth I assume ?

[sage falcon]

when the game is out

priced in USD but you pay with ETH or sILV

[topaz bobcat]

gotcha thanks ❤️

[hot oar]

I also don’t believe in a CEX listing. But if you think, there are lower liquidity’s and projects that are not launched yet, listed. Don’t see the arguments as limitations. But agree that is very unlikely

[abstract kestrel]

I will admit the admins are really good at calming the concerns

Yo not even a 10 percent dip and it's bouncing back already W

[modern mantle]

and its a red day ingeneral, the market is dwn 5% so we wudve been down like 7% regardless

[hot oar]

I think the word is not spread out yet, actually. Don’t see posts on Twitter/forums yet, we’ll know the impact by end of the week I guess 😂

[mystic yew]

Hey guys, getting back on Illuvium now. What's up, what's happening.. heard about the delay in the release

[sage falcon]

read up on #📣〕announcements , the team is focused on delivering a quality product

[mystic yew]

Oh, don't get me wrong. I'm all for quality. Don't release half baked stuff as first impressions do matter a lot.

Just tryin to get a feel on which stuff we could get busy with while we wait

[dawn ibex]

see you guys next year

[open salmon]

o7

[frosty temple]

Hoping this game is good, there aren’t any out there yet on scale as this one

[twilit junco]

https://gfycat.com/gaseouswickedbufflehead

[wet sequoia]

how much to start in the game?

[sage falcon]

a full cycle of travel and shard curing is estimated at around $50, but you can also experience full gameplay for free in a t0 area...however that is a free to play experience thus you very likely wont profit

Algun español?

#796506693973311549

[twilit junco]

!f2p 🙂

[tidal garnet]

You begin our game with a free-to-play experience that immerses you in our richly-detailed world, lets you enjoy some action, and helps you understand how the game works. The free-to-play experience of the Tier 0 regions will familiarize you with Illuvium, and won’t feel like an “abridged” version of the game. It is a full-fledged gameplay experience! If you like it, you can then decide to opt in to the paid experience, start collecting NFTs from higher tiered regions, and delve into deeper adventures to explore the mysteries of the game where the NFTs you gather start to hold more value as well.

Just after game launch, when everyone starts fresh, you might even be able to sell free Tier 0 NFTs on the IlluviDEX for ETH, but there is no guarantee for that.

[twilit junco]

!earn

[tidal garnet]

In Illuvium there will be several options to P2E:

• sell captured Illuvials
• sell farmed materials
• sell crafted items
• play the marketplace (buy low, sell high)
• wager on battles in the Leviathan Arena
• earn some of the 1 Million ILV set aside for in-game rewards
• …

BUT, while the game will be free to play, in order to participate in the earning part of the economy, a bit of money needs to be invested. A full cycle of travelling, curing shards, etc. is currently estimated to be around $50 (this can still change).

[crimson heart]

Right I looked into that game and they keep saying it's about this and that but can't find anything

[fervent meteor]

very true looks amazing

[sage falcon]

How can I get more info on land sales?

[twilit junco]

Check the two GDDs pinned in #🎮〕illuvium-zero and the proposal in #📰〕governance-news 🙂

[echo crown]

Has it been announced on how to get on the beta list?

[quick spindle]

See the latest message in #795444126421483520 regarding the private beta expected in the next few months.
No form/application has been released yet though.
As for open beta in Q1 2022, no listing required as that will be open to all! 🙂

[echo crown]

Thanks, appreciate the info!

[tame crag]

just wondering, is the gas fees for staking illuvium suppose to be that high? im getting like 200 bucks gas fees

[full dome]

gas is fairly high (100+) right now so that is contributing to the pain

[tame crag]

should i wait for tommorow to stake it?

[gleaming bough]

I paid around $50 this morning. Got lucky

[full dome]

your call, but i'd say it's very likely you could get a better gas fee some other time

[tame crag]

thanks for the advise man

appreciate it

[gleaming bough]

Early morning. Best time to stake

[modest pelican]

i usually wait until early weekend mornings (us time) to do most anything with gas these days. also check out gasnow.org to see historic times and when it may come down

[tame crag]

are you guys staking the token or the LP?

[twilit junco]

There is a large backing for both pools which you also can see in the value staked in the two core pools. Try to check out #🥩〕staking, there has been a ton of discussion around what pool to stake in there already 🙂

[hallow lotus]

YOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

[tame crag]

thanks guys!

[hallow lotus]

just saw the announcement and I must say... I don't really mind if it takes another 6 months to a year to finish the game development cuz its worth the wait~

so... how are u all? hope u are all having a wonderful day or night~

[coarse sigil]

Hello everyone, im new here. Wondering how to play the game if its actually a playable yet

[twilit junco]

!timeline Not quite yet 🙂

[tidal garnet]

The current estimates are:

• Closed beta in October / November
• Gameplay trailer end of October
• Open beta (launch) on PC & MAC in Q1 2022
• Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

[modern mantle]

i heard about it, looked into it and very realized how quick of a scam it is

[quick spindle]

Doing pretty well, Cloud! Happy Monday to you.
How are you doing? 🙂

[cold gull]

hello any mod or community member here?

[sage falcon]

all around, whats up lol

[twilit junco]

Plenty people around 🙂

[coarse plume]

what makes you think its a scam? I havent looked into it btw, but I've seen it being promoted.

[modern mantle]

Lack of info, lack of transparency, creators are unreachable, idk seemed sketch. I cant say its a scam 100% but something seems off. There coin went from like 18$ toa couple of cents as well

[coral shell]

RELEASE THE GAME

[quick spindle]

Is this about Star Atlas? Perhaps this convo can be moved to #799010390201466880 so as to not cause any confusion and lead others to believe you might be referring to Illuvium (which I know you're not) 🙂

[acoustic urchin]

Wen Lambo

[sage falcon]

I stayed up till 2am to get low gas fees, it was still like $100

[tame solar]

https://tenor.com/view/let-me-in-eric-andre-wanna-come-in-gif-13730108

The more time I am given before launch the higher chance I will devise a plan to own most of one Illuvial

[quick spindle]

Haha, do you have that Illuvial selected already?

[tame solar]

I am not telling you!

[full dome]

the ||tiktalik monopoly DAO|| is a go

[quick spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/im-telling-mom-drinking-im-listening-drink-cup-gif-17256728

[tame solar]

Just had a brilliant idea for that DAO. Airdrop shards to all TIKTALIK owners

[acoustic urchin]

It's the sheep looking one 🐑

[full dome]

make it rain.

[quick spindle]

So is it pronounced Tick-Tuh-Lick?
Or Tike-Tal-lick (sounds like Titanic... because... you know...)

[full dome]

@fierce vine yells it like Tick-Tuh-Lick so i just assume that's correct

[quick spindle]

Ooh good point. I think Matt would know

[fierce vine]

lol I'm a moron

[full dome]

[fierce vine]

Ben says it like Tik-Tal-ik

[full dome]

but you're our moron

[fierce vine]

so I guess the same but

[uncut condor]

will illuvials have XP? will we be able to lvl them fighting on T0?

[fierce vine]

I belong!

[twilit junco]

Yes, you even have to reach a treshold level to fuse them 🙂

[uncut condor]

cool

[quick spindle]

Yup! You'll level them and it's been talked about how you'll likely want your Tier 0 Illuvials at certain levels before you even consider traveling to a Tier 1 region to try fighting the next tier of Illuvials

[shell bough]

They’re much further out. They said like in a yr they’ll be ready

[uncut condor]

do u mean how much strong they need to be to be able to beat T1 illuvials?

[quick spindle]

Correct!

[uncut condor]

cool

[sage falcon]

Price bouncing back well despite announcing delay in release date, that’s great to see

[neat sable]

That was quick nooooo i wanted a 20 % dip for ez DCA

[obtuse patrol]

yeah, bad news...a super negative catalyst, and an immediate rebound looks good.

[full dome]

👀

it's a what now? 😄

[neat sable]

https://tenor.com/view/flash-dc-comics-theflash-run-gif-5863243 JEFF

[full dome]

https://tenor.com/view/ghost-in-the-shell-keyboard-gif-7519694

[fervent meteor]

hahahahaha

[neat sable]

Scammer does not even have a second of time hahaha

[somber edge]

Just read latest announcement! I would rather have the game be better at launch than do a rushed launch! Take the time you need to get development right 💯

[neat sable]

Seems like a #799010390201466880 please delete and send there instead - This chat is only for Illuvium related topics

[obtuse patrol]

1000%, the game needs to be done and GOOD on release. Having a buggy thing could literally destroys the entire year worth of work and make everyone lose.

[wraith horizon]

yes right. nothing changes for some weeks

[civic mason]

Crazy to see that the Dip from the news is already over lmao

[oblique slate]

https://tenor.com/view/wait-there-is-no-dip-gif-19787006

[opaque spindle]

When's the trailer expected to come out?

[humble wave]

7 weeks. You can check the full message in #📣〕announcements

[humble wave]

Wait, there was a dip? 😄

[civic mason]

Seems like 500$ per token is the new floor price tbh

[opaque spindle]

Oo thanks, I've never tried an NFT game but I'm pretty excited about this one

[wraith horizon]

the only deep i see is the one at 30$ from 2 months ago 😆

[humble wave]

That was the basement. You don't wanna go there. Let's stay on the ground floor and go for the penthouse.

[wraith horizon]

yeah sure

[civic mason]

😉

[obtuse patrol]

Financial Fried Rice

[humble wave]

You're handwriting is killing me lol 😆

[sage falcon]

the delays are priced in!

[wraith horizon]

well let it go like this, right now im up more than 1000%.. will be fine with 3000 4000 or even more 😆

[rancid adder]

90k members tomorrow 👀

[misty tinsel]

Hi

[civic mason]

It's done with a mouse, ITS HARD AF

[sage falcon]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qH29TY4j7Ik

[zenith storm]

can we get groovy bot unlocked for use? what is the point of it even being here lmao

[acoustic osprey]

Is the game our yet or what is the target date?

[humble wave]

No idea how to use him really.

[quick arrow]

Hello, can I ask if there is an application for the closed beta on december or there's no info yet?

[humble wave]

Q1

[humble wave]

Not yet. You can check pinned messages in #795444126421483520 for more updates on #📣〕announcements when there is one

[quick arrow]

I see. Thank you for the fast response! :)

[trim canopy]

whens this gonna come out???

[acoustic osprey]

@humble wave what's the strategy before the game comes up? How to be ready? Buy or stake opportunities??

[humble wave]

In Q1

[humble wave]

!ilv you can see all the answers here:

[tidal garnet]

ILV is not needed for gameplay in any way. Instead it has three main functions:

Governance:
Together, we have the power to shape the future of Illuvium through our community collaboration on game improvement proposals as well as electing the initial model of governance, the Illuvinati Council.

Liquidity Mining:
Here, you will gain more ILV (or sILV). Additional ILV will increase your voting power in governance & increase your share of vault distributions.

Vault Distributions:
When you stake ILV, you share in Illuvium's success and earn a passive income of additional ILV, funded through in-game purchases and fees. Vault distributions will only be available from sales and once the game and Illuvidex are launched.

For further details please read:
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507

[trim canopy]

will this be available on mac aswell i would love to be able to play this at work and on the go with my mac aswell i still dont know alot about this but it seems like a awesome project and i wanna get in early

[trim canopy]

Q1 whats that?

[humble wave]

Jan - Feb - Mar

[humble wave]

It is supposed to be on both Win and Mac

[trim canopy]

oh yes cool so time to save and learn about it

[proven rain]

Im thrilled by the delay honestly. I hope the coin will go on a discount, i want to buy a significant amount more, but i want some "bad news" first haha.

[humble wave]

Yep. You can find answers in the links I sent above or in #🔗〕helpful-links

[proven rain]

Quality is far more important than rushing to get it done.

[humble wave]

Well there was a dip due to the news....but it was short lived

[trim canopy]

so do i have to purchase coins to be able to buy these creatures or whatever there called and each creature is like 1 token?

[honest meteor]

I believe you may be able to buy the creatures (illuvials) on open sea after launch. However, the best way to acquire them would be collecting them in game.

[noble depot]

I thought Illuvium was gonna have its own marketplace for that

[honest meteor]

oh yeah. You're correct. Idk what I'm talking about.

[fallow gale]

Yeah, DAO won't be selling illuvials directly, you can only obtain ingame, or buy from someone else

[acoustic urchin]

Play the game, catch Illuvials, sell Illuvials on the games market with gas free trades. It's a beautiful thing

[trim canopy]

So is illuvial gonna be 1 token so $500 or are they gonna have it in like a pack system

[fallow gale]

yup immutable X. If you guys are interested, they are doing an ICO soon (IMX). Not all countries are eligible, so you guys can check. imo IMX is going to be big (not financial advice)

[acoustic urchin]

Think Pokemon, you go and play and catch. There's no selling from the Devs

[trim canopy]

What’s the tokens for than?

[acoustic urchin]

!ilv

[honest meteor]

depends. People are going to sell them for whatever the market price is. Purchases will be made in ETH.

[tidal garnet]

🚫 ZyoniK, you can't use that.

[acoustic urchin]

A mod has the command, it'll explain it all. @tame solar

[fallow gale]

u catch them in game, like pokemon, but different combat. or u buy off someone else on opensea

[trim canopy]

Arghh so the idea of the game is to catch things however that is than sell and trade to make your team really stronger and than fight

[tame solar]

!ilv

[tidal garnet]

ILV is not needed for gameplay in any way. Instead it has three main functions:

Governance:
Together, we have the power to shape the future of Illuvium through our community collaboration on game improvement proposals as well as electing the initial model of governance, the Illuvinati Council.

Liquidity Mining:
Here, you will gain more ILV (or sILV). Additional ILV will increase your voting power in governance & increase your share of vault distributions.

Vault Distributions:
When you stake ILV, you share in Illuvium's success and earn a passive income of additional ILV, funded through in-game purchases and fees. Vault distributions will only be available from sales and once the game and Illuvidex are launched.

For further details please read:
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507

[fallow gale]

yes. the paid aspect of the game is travelling to higher tier areas to catch higher tier illuvials.

[honest meteor]

Indeed!

[trim canopy]

So what do you actually have to pay for like what’s these tokens used for or is that just for the ingame marketplace

[fallow gale]

ILV - holders get a stake of all transaction fees in game (eg.travel)
sILV/ETH - use to pay transaction fees

[trim canopy]

Oh so you have to pay to travel to other zones and stuff

[dense shuttle]

Yo is the NFT giveaway still on?

[quick spindle]

Correct. Everyone will start out in the Tier 0 zone where there are no fees and you can use shards to capture Tier 0 Illuvials.

If you want to capture Tier 1-5 Illuvials, you will pay a travel fee to get to the paid region and also a fee to cure your shards which lets you capture the higher tier Illuvials

[dense shuttle]

Yo someone answer me😒

[quick spindle]

To my knowledge, yes. (If you are referring to the recent Influencer partnerships like On Chain Gaming)

[dense shuttle]

How to take part in it? Thanks for the reply✌️❤️

[trim canopy]

Alright so is it like a ongoing cost or a onetime cost to get to that zone and than you farm there for better tier illuvials and do you have to pay to go back to a lower tier

[quick spindle]

What NFT giveaway are you referring to, exactly?
Recent giveaways just required you to be a member of this Discord 🙂

[prisma root]

New video is out! My thoughts on the announcement we received last night. Go check it out and let me know what you guys think!
https://youtu.be/wfyRe-sH-Oc

[dense shuttle]

They said they gon do the illuvial NFT giveaway but the way to enter that one seems unclear to me

[trim canopy]

And are the battles against other people gonna be for eth or whatever currency and will there be different price points for battles

[quick spindle]

Each time you travel to a T1+ region, you will have to pay that travel fee.
So you pay the travel fee to get to the region and you farm and explore as long as you like in that region until you finish your clear or your energy runs out.
Then you can either go to a Tier 0 region for free or pay to go to a Tier 1 region again.

[quick spindle]

No Illuvials will be given out prior to game launch as everyone will be starting with 0 Illuvials.
There have been a few promo partnership NFT giveaways for collectible NFTs (but not used in game).
For those, just being a member of our Discord makes you eligible! 🙂

[dense shuttle]

This was clear enough, thanks for the info

[quick spindle]

That will depend on the arena you're battling in 😄

There will be a ranked PvP arena in which you're fighting to rank up and ultimately be on the leaderboards, I assume. 1 million ILV has been set aside for in-game yield so we may see some of that as rewards for doing well in ranked arenas, as well as tournaments, quests, etc.

Then there is the Leviathan arena where you wager ETH amounts of your choice against others. Winner takes all!

[rich terrace]

How we all doing folks

[azure lichen]

Peachy

[trim canopy]

Okay so technically you could play this game free to play if you wanted to but you’d be stuck with not so great teams and just playing for fun

[midnight adder]

Did illuvium get hacked on Facebook?

[azure lichen]

What makes you ask that? @midnight adder

[rich terrace]

Correct, the free is meant to be a taster and an introduction. Not the full game.

It has everything, but Illuvials will be weaker and so on.

[midnight adder]

They are giving away Bitcoin. Looks like a scam.

[rich terrace]

Might not be real facebook page

[trim canopy]

Yeah and do we know the costs of going to zones is it gonna be reasonable priced for the casual player because I’m interested in sweating this game out but I think my brother will be more casual and won’t wanna be spending half his wage to travel somewhere hahah

[modern mantle]

probably a fake page

[rich terrace]

could you PM me a link please

[azure lichen]

Yeah that’s sketchy I would guess it’s a fake

[rich terrace]

We are absolutely not giving away bitcoin

[azure lichen]

People and companies don’t just give away btc

[rich terrace]

Cost will vary but I've designed the lowest region about being cheap to enter, so you can do for fun when you have some time spare without stress.

[trim canopy]

That was more a question for my brother I’m interested in playing the game a lot and spending a lot of time and money into it I use to play games like summoners war and spend like 9k on that game with no chance of making money atleast this is a game where you can play and have fun but you can also make money and have fun with that aswell

[dusty plank]

Definitely fake, don't get scammed. The only time I've ever seen anyone "give" away crypto is during airdrops, which you can find on those companies' discords or websites. They never require you to send them anything. Sometimes there are conditions to meet, usually social media related.

[azure lichen]

Yeah I stagger every time I recall how much I’ve spent on in game stuff over these last 25 yrs

[trim canopy]

Are there gonna be illuvials that are really rare to get that have a high power in the higher zones

[coarse dragon]

Question..... assume i am staking sushi LP tokens on the ILV OS.... therefore i am recieivng ILV tokens as reward... I may take those rewards in ILV or SILV.... If i take those rewards in ILV is the APY based off the pool I am associated with (LP POOL) or the ILV pool APY?

[azure lichen]

I dunno about “power” per say but I think there will be varying qualities of the illuvials in each tier

[past owl]

ILV pool at 2x weight

[trim canopy]

I mean like obviously there is gonna be stronger illuvails to get in higher tiers will there be rare ones that are hard to find that people might pay high prices to buy them off you

[azure lichen]

Yeah I believe there was a comparison to “shiny pokemon”

[modest lantern]

when will we be able to play the game

[trim canopy]

Yeah that’s cool I’m keen and excited

[twilit junco]

!timeline 🙂

[quick spindle]

Yeah, definitely! The tiers determine the rarity. So Tier 0 being most common and Tier 5 being the rarest. And then you may also find a holographic version or get yourself a dark holo... those will be rare, for sure!

[twilit junco]

!timeline

Moz4rt on strike? 😦

[quick spindle]

Hmm Moz4rt might be delayed?

[full dome]

moz4rt has abandoned us.

flee for your lives.

[quick spindle]

Expecting two timelines to show up any second now haha

[trim canopy]

So there will be like a shiny version of the illuvail and they are rarer

[quick spindle]

Correct! 🙂

[twilit junco]

@tidal garnet You ok, buddy?

[trim canopy]

And how’s the farming work can I sit there and grind for days straight or will I only be able to get on everytime my energy is full

[quick spindle]

The open beta/game launch is expected in Q1 of 2022!
Private beta in the next couple of months 🙂

[coarse dragon]

@past owl So to me, to maximize gains... the play is to wait for the game to launch and take SILV..... through gameplay and the ILV Dex convert that SILV into ETH... then use the ETH to stake more LP

[quick spindle]

!energy

[tidal garnet]

When you travel to a region you have a certain amount of energy. That energy can be used for a variety of actions including scanning, gathering, battle etc. In theory you can even capture more than one Illuvial per travel but using your energy wisely and thus optimizing your spoils per travel will make a huge difference between good and less good players.

[trim canopy]

How do we get access to private beta

[twilit junco]

Check last message in #795444126421483520 🙂

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

The current estimates are:

• Closed beta in October / November
• Gameplay trailer end of October
• Open beta (launch) on PC & MAC in Q1 2022
• Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

[twilit junco]

Yay!

[coarse dragon]

@past owl well not necessarily gains but ILV rewards

[twilit junco]

https://tenor.com/view/hug-fallon-tonight-robot-love-gif-8166468

[azure lichen]

[quick spindle]

@surreal thistle Each time you decide to travel to a new region (free or paid), you will have a full energy meter again.
So you can travel to regions as often as you like, but can only perform limited numbers of actions (Illuvial battle, mining, harvesting, etc.) depending on how much energy each action costs.

[full dome]

moz4rt was just hangin' with his buddies...

https://tenor.com/view/terminator-rise-of-the-machines-machine-gif-9418150

[trim canopy]

So the game isn’t gonna be a very demanding game on your computer as Mac can run it??

[azure lichen]

Not sure they have system requirements out yet

[twilit junco]

Medium PC, 1050TI is what has been floating around most recently for a good experience. But final specs have not been determined yet, so don't buy anything purely based on that 🙂

[sage falcon]

I would say it probably would run fine on a macbook pro but an air might have some problems with the graphics requirements.

[trim canopy]

So I can keep travelling to new zones with money and have full energy

[rich terrace]

I can run it on a 970 atm, but it's nowhere near finalised. 1050ti is our internal goal benchmark.

[quick spindle]

Full energy when you enter a new region, yeah.

[quick spindle]

That's my current too... hmmmmm

[trim canopy]

I’m just thinking for when I’m sitting at work or on a road trip or something if my 2020 MacBook Pro will run it

[hardy star]

Are there any videos or clips showing player characters running around the map? I'm like 90% positive I saw something in a streamers video. But now I can't seem to find anything.

[rich terrace]

I'm upgrading as soon as I can find someone to give money to that isn't a scalper

[azure lichen]

How much happy grass did you smoke before hand?

[quick spindle]

https://tenor.com/view/copy-that-call-roger-that-copy-gif-17713322

[hardy star]

Not enough apparently

[rich terrace]

There have been livestreams with dmitry walking around an early version of the Overworld

so it might be a clip of that?

But that'll be with a placeholder player character, early models ect.

[sage falcon]

Well nothing is official yet but my Macbook from 2014 runs most new games fine still. I imagine newer macbooks would be able to handle it.

[stable stag]

first or 3rd prson?

[rich terrace]

3rd I presume

over the player characters shoulder

[tame solar]

I played like 5 hours last night of Dota chess

I need a lot more practice to be good at Illuvium

[trim canopy]

Will there be a problem with people full whaling saying they have like 10k and just jump to tier 5 and get everything good

[sage falcon]

does the game plan to integrate lots of API endpoints in order to create third party tools ?

[trim canopy]

Also in combat will there be any skill to it at all or will it purely be his team is slightly better he is winning no matter what

And how many illuvials is the game gonna start with?

[brazen moss]

bro gas fee 1200$ 10 minute ago now and sitting at 163$ for erc 20 token

[arctic hill]

Do we know when land will go on sale?

[civic mason]

8-10 weeks

[arctic hill]

ty!

[plain cloud]

Not trying to fud, but I knew there was no way we were making the Q4 date for the beta release. Kinda sucks but atleast the devs have time to perfect everything without rushing, we definitely dont want that lol

[coarse plume]

I'd say that most people in here with a realistic viewpoint were expecting the delay. The transparency and communication of it was top notch anyway so theres no reason to be worried about the project for me

[thorn kelp]

Hi, I was the guy asking the original question, unfortunately so far I still have strong doubts about this project, do you have anything new worth of interest? DM if you prefer we can share info!

[abstract kestrel]

I'm interested to see what the map looks like that you can explore ngl hopefully we get some of that soonish

[trim canopy]

Land??

[sage falcon]

Project will be epic when it comes out

[plain cloud]

Atleast we get some overworld footage/info now, silver linings lol

[plush vault]

Hi can i know how do you open up a community chat for malaysia/singapore? Cant seem to find one there. If youre opening one i suggest to just combine it together. Thanks!

[plush vault]

I mean in Axie/Cryptoblades we’re both co-joint under the same chat channel, if there will be one id suggest it to be Malay-Sing/Sing-Malay either way is fine lol. Cheers have a good day everyone

[nocturne girder]

Hey super new here but LOVE the concept and idea that is coming together with this team.

Have any of the characters that will be found in the "wild" been minted yet? Or can those tier 0/1/2 characters only be found in the wild when the game releases?

Or will there be a big Mint/Auction sell off before the games launch?

Have a ton of questions similar to this, as I said hyper new. So please hit me up here or in the DMs if you have time 🙂

[lucid river]

As far as i know illuvials will be released when the game launches.

[lucid river]

Only Auction im aware of that's gonna happen before the open beta would be the "Land" Sale

[nocturne girder]

Gotcha I have a ton of questions about land as well lol. Is there any channel/youtube page/whitepaper that I can be directed to for a good top to bottom guide?

[lucid river]

i recommend you read the blog deraji made about illubium which basically covers everything there is to know of as of now. I'll dm you the link cuz i dont think i can send one here

[modest pelican]

check out the pinned messages in #🎮〕illuvium-zero , lots of info about the land sale. but not all specifics have been worked out yet

[fickle yacht]

White paper link is in #791148036935516161 message

[nocturne girder]

Thank you all!

[full dome]

great. more jeffs.

[nocturne girder]

LOL I saw you typing @full dome and was gunna use my classic only big enough for one Jeff comment.
BUT saw you were a mod so GG

[full dome]

https://gfycat.com/scratchycreativechickadee

[round river]

When is the land sale?

[tall cairn]

Was it just stupid of me to stake 1.75 ILV

[full dome]

no fixed date, last estimate is about ~9 weeks from now but i don't think that is accurate

[quick spindle]

Hmm well, you'd need to make sure you have Illuvials that are strong enough to fight. So in the beginning, those who level up Tier 0 Illuvials will have a better chance at capturing the higher tier and stronger Illuvials. Whales could possibly just wait for others to sell their leveled up lower tier Illuvials, buy them, and then proceed to try and capture higher tiered Illuvials, but I wouldn't see it as a problem because at that point it's not just whales who are able to effectively fight the stronger Illuvials.

Hope that sort of helps put things into perspective rather than making it more confusing 😅

[quick spindle]

For this, I would assume so. But I don't have the answer for certain, sorry! If someone else knows for sure, they may chime in 🙂

[quick spindle]

Since you and your opponent will be taking turns placing your Illuvials on the board, you will want to try to determine what synergies/setup your opponent is going for, and then react accordingly, placing Illuvials that try to counter theirs. Also where you place on your side of the board will need to be well thought out in relation to where the opponent places their Illuvials.

[sage falcon]

when does this game realise?

[quick spindle]

The Genesis set of Illuvials is going to contain 150 total.
At launch, there will be around 75 and it will be increased to that 150 mark over at least 6 months 🙂

[quick spindle]

!timeline See below for upcoming events 🙂

[tidal garnet]

The current estimates are:

• Closed beta in October / November
• Gameplay trailer end of October
• Illuvatar auction before open beta
• Open beta (launch) on PC & MAC in Q1 2022
• Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

[queen kelp]

I'm looking forward to this game

[sage falcon]

me to

[wispy ginkgo]

Woah, what are these Illuvatars? Avatars, I suppose?

[zenith fable]

The closed beta in Oct/Nov is factoring in the delays, yeah?

[quick spindle]

As far as I know, yes, since there was no mention of pushing the private beta back. However, if new information does come to light, we'll be sure to update that bot command!

[icy cape]

has anyone concerns about the upcoming bear market / correction in crypto (approx beginning of 2022) disturbing the open beta and launch of the game ?

[zenith fable]

Well you cant exactly say the crypto correction will be beginning of 2022, that would be anyone's guess lol. And axie pushed through the recent bear market so i dont see why ILV cant do the same

[icy cape]

I mean, I would expect that some liquidity gets sucked out ... despite the fact that ppl are playing games no matter what

[honest meteor]

Me want in on closed beta, but me no comment in #795444126421483520 in time. Sad. Me will write epic request wen form live

[honest meteor]

Axie was doing great in the 🐻 market. Now the market is up and axie is ded 💀

[modern mantle]

I feel like after a while tier 0 illuvials will be useless. After everyone got some upper tier illuvials thyll probabky never buy or use or catch the lowrr ones again

[modern mantle]

How is it dead? Still doin well

[honest meteor]

For sure, I’m grinding nonstop until I’m able to capture tier 5. I need a ramphyre

[sage falcon]

You need a shiny Ramphyre

[honest meteor]

Market for axies is down bad. SLP is down bad. Not sure how to make money now except hodling axs. Can’t breed and make money, need a ton of scholars to be worth it too b/c SLP has tanked.

[tropic dew]

r u guys playing the game already?

[obtuse patrol]

game doesn't even release until next year m8

[tropic dew]

yeah thats what i thought. thxs