💬〕general

[acoustic urchin]

Sorry to hear that, I'd reach out to their support team.

[hallow kraken]

Thanks I’ll see if I can find it. Just glad it has been discussed and at least thought about.

[topaz crag]

may also need to contact your bank/card issuer, not all financial institutions/cards are willing to approve purchases affiliated with crypto, or you have to contact them to authorize the transactions (not that they tell you that).

[thorn plover]

It's possible that specific issue hasn't been 🤷‍♂️
But IMX has been talked to death

[dusty plank]

I've been using IMX a bit via Gods Unchained (a game that runs on IMX) and I think it's coming along fine. It's still in development, but (strictly personal opinion) it looks to me like they are doing all the right things.

I'd hop over to their discord to do more research if you're concerned - the team has said a few times that if it's necessary they'll figure out their own L2 solution.

[shell stirrup]

Jajaja gustavoo jajajajja

[hallow kraken]

Guess I’m just worried that illuvium will explode and IMX won’t be able to deal with the volume of transactions. It’s going to put a lot of stress on their systems. I know the team has said they could figure out their own layer 2 solution. I have no idea how long that would take to build. Just don’t want the same issue that axie had happen to us in regards to servers and people not able to play.

[obtuse patrol]

It shouldn't be a huge issue. You think over 10000 transactions are going to happen per second every second?

[dusty plank]

If IMX built their infrastructure properly, it won't be a problem. I'm sure there's ways to stress test when we're closer.

[clear timber]

About 100$, was about 140$ 10 hours ago, don't know if it can get lower

[autumn vigil]

Insane gas haha. I wonder if it is worht staking $1k worth of XYZ with the gas haha

[clear timber]

Same here, about to stack 1k but that gas fee is insane

[turbid rapids]

hola

[autumn vigil]

Just swapping ETH for XYZ came out at $40.

[pine swift]

Coinbase is expensive as shit. Binance.US has the lowest fees by far.

[hallow kraken]

I agree and it’s also reassuring to hear the big bosses have discussed it. So they have thought about it. If they are worried I’m sure they would put in a proposal to build their own layer 2. Like they said and done multiple times; ‘even if it means more work for them they will do what’s right for this project.’

[pine swift]

Someone please correct if I'm wrong, but the issue is not because the Layer 2 is not good enough, but that Ethereum has a pathetic throughput no matter how much batching and rollup you use through the existing Layer 2 solutions. So, Immutability X may be the smartest solution out there, but there's only so much it can do given the severe Ethereum constraints, because it's garbage in terms of its design and architecture.

[dusty plank]

It's certainly in IMX's interest to have a functional and scalable system. Until they fail (or appear to be failing), developing a L2 solution would be a big investment.

[pine swift]

Agreed, if Immutability X and Axie Infinity teams can't figure it out - it's very likely that the Illuvial team wouldn't be able to do it either.

[dusty plank]

Ethereum is also under development, but until we can see how impactful shard chains actually are on gas prices, and how the network continues to scale, it's a SAFE bet to have a L2 solution in place. Even if transaction fees are only like, $3 after shard chains are implemented, that still limits the economy, as anything less than or equal to $3 isn't worth it to farm and sell. $3 is just a number out of a hat, but full Eth 2.0 will change the shape of gas fees for sure.

Layer 2 is totally fine, and doesn't have much for limitations. Eth's infrastructure doesn't limit L2 solutions by much even now, and will be even less of a factor once Eth itself has more transaction capacity.

[pine swift]

It would make a lot more sense to move to a different platform, like Solana or Cosmos. That's what the Cloud Atlas team did when they chose Solana and their game looks pretty sweet as well. Solana has orders of magnitude higher throughput than the Ethereum does.

[idle terrace]

That’s not gonna happen

[dusty plank]

L2 solutions bypass thoroughput limitations. Changing platforms would be a huge mistake at this point.

[pine swift]

I'm not sure that the L2 solutions completely bypass throughput limitations, because ultimately they have to register transactions on Ethereum. They just batch them instead of doing individually.

So, this still creates traffic on Ethereum

[dusty plank]

ILV itself is an ERC-20 token, a lot of ILV is already staked as ERC-20 tokens. You'd be looking at minimum 12 months before all staked ILV is even eligible to be unlocked, and that's not factoring in rewards. If tomorrow you auto-claimed all rewards and stopped all further reward distributions, you'd still have to wait a year.

That's not even factoring in that you'd be fucking a bunch of people over by making them switch their stakes over and/or disrupting their stakes. A platform swap is not something to be done lightly considering that there are reasonable solutions within Ethereum.

I'm pretty sure Ethereum was chosen for a very good reason, namely that it's the 2nd biggest crypto, and thus one of the most accessible. Gas prices do suck, but Eth has upgrades coming, AND there are L2 solutions.

[granite sparrow]

Is it worth staking now today or tomorrow, I have about $2k usd to drop but just wondering if it’s worth it or wait and see if the gas fees fluctuate

[humble wave]

Gas is a bit high rn. Though you have to bear in mind that gameplay will be released this/next week (probably) which might mean only one thing. Besides, every 2 weeks there is a 3% drop in APY, so the earlier you stake the more rewards you get, but that is totally your decision. YOu know what's best 4 u

https://tenor.com/view/hi-hello-hey-there-wave-hi-guys-gif-17482911

[autumn vigil]

How bad would it be if I chose slow for gas haha

[pine swift]

Ethereum had started experiencing severe throughput issues back in 2017 and it was known since the day it was released that it would hit the wall as soon as the number of concurrent users reaches a pathetic less than 100K. A lot of years had passed and it still sucks. If it were a startup - it would be out of business within a year moving at this pace. And there's absolutely no guarantee that its new upgrades will even fix the issue. Why? Because if the software product is a complete shit - it's cheaper and more efficient to rewrite it from scratch rather than try to patch it the way they are trying to patch Ethereum. The reason why Illuvial team chose Ethereum was because until recently there was no other mature product on the market. EOS was supposed to be an Ethereum killer, but it miserably flopped. Crypto industry sure as hell take their sweet time coming out with new and improved platforms. I mean, look at Ethereum taking 5 years to come up with a solution to a critical problem that should've been fixed years ago and I'm not certain that it will even fully work.

[humble wave]

some people have been known to wait for days for the transactions to go through.

[autumn vigil]

😦 Well. At least gas is now sort of going down to line of 6! Still cant confirm . Only have $82 budget on gas

[humble wave]

I'd wait for under 20 or when I have a lot of rewards to claim that would justify gas.

[acoustic urchin]

https://c.tenor.com/95ycw_CgVHoAAAAM/napoleon-dynamite-wave.gif

[autumn vigil]

I’m trying to stake the XYZ right now. 😦

[humble wave]

well, then if your XYZ stake is not that much, paying the gas might not sound logical since you'll be in the pool for less than 2 weeks now. But you gotta decide what you gotta decide

[dusty plank]

I'm not saying that Eth doesn't have issues, just that it's VERY late in the game to swap platforms with the current staking and revdis structures, and I don't think it's even viable or a good use of time to be thinking about a swap to Solana or something.

It's an interesting idea, but what is an elegant solution to the staking/rewards problem?

[arctic gulch]

My money is still on eth. No one has beaten them yet. Plenty said they would do it. Still waiting.

[red geyser]

yup my little bit of XYZ is gonna stay where it's been. Too many transactions for it to be worth the reward.

[pine swift]

It's not an ideal situation for Illuvial team, but all options should be on the table. Their game could be the best in the world, but if nobody can play it because Ethereum comes to a grinding halt and the gas fees explode then what's point. What they can do is have a parallel track rewriting the financial part of the game for Solana, because it's not like they have to rewrite the game itself from scratch. This way they have something in place in case Ethereum fails miserably.

[humble wave]

only if gas was not that high.....

[dusty plank]

Banking on Ethereum failing is pretty bold. They are taking their time with upgrades precisely for that reason, and have stated as much in their dev manifestos.

[red geyser]

EIP-1559 seems to have severely reduced under 20 gwei opportunities. But it may have reduced the monster peaks. I don't pay enough attention the fast gas 😆

[dusty plank]

I'll also add, politely, that calling Eth shitty isn't a solution to the staking/rewards problem.

The whole thing sounds a lot like not leaving your house because an airplane flap might fall off and hit you in the head, so you're safer to stay inside.

[pine swift]

No one has beaten them because they were moving slow as hell, instead of trying to occupy the void. EOS was a great hope and it was pretty solid from the technological perspective with much higher throughput, but not the executing the basics like a good wallet and very weird approach to governance doomed that project.

[humble wave]

well monster peaks are still around. Though I would think there will not be an issue if you make your claims later than usual. But, if it were low, i'd say lots of more investors (shrimps and whales) would have joined and we would not be sitting at 500 for long. I believe one reason we haven't broken ATH is due to the gas being where it is now

[pine swift]

They've been stating all kinds of shit since 2017 and taking a ridiculous amount of time. And, yet the platform still sucks. If they were a real company - they would've been out of business years ago with nobody even willing to pick up their scraps for free.

[red geyser]

yeah the poor shrimps getting rekt by gas. That was me during BLBP. Now THAT was high gas fees

https://tenor.com/view/grumpy-dana-carvey-back-in-my-day-angry-gif-16063472

[humble wave]

still you got in early and the rewards have already reduced your avg, so all is good I guess 🙂

[red geyser]

yeah for sure. That's why I was OK with it. I know folks were wondering why would these small timers be willing to pay such high gas... but it was worth it for the long hodl

[dusty plank]

You've established that you dislike Ethereum, I think that much is understood. That hasn't, however, stopped Ethereum from being the 2nd biggest crypto by a factor of 4. That also doesn't solve the issue of what you'd do with stakes and rewards in a hypothetical world where Illuvium swapped to another network.

Breaking that infrastructure and trust would be a blow that would be more likely to ruin the project entirely than temporary high gas prices.

[humble wave]

As it is now if you plan your claiming. The LONG for ILV is boundless, limitless and endless.

[red geyser]

later folks. I should be asleep

[humble wave]

nighty night 🙂

[green sentinel]

New video on Illuvium 💪

https://youtu.be/sK6PE3hs1cA

[ivory abyss]

so if i stake 1000 at 600% APY ill receive $6000 after 12 months/

[humble wave]

there are tons coming every day. More exposure = more players = more Rev = and more buying pressure.

[humble wave]

nothing is clear as APY changes literally daily. The more people join, it drops, the prices change, it goes up/down and also depends on your IL (Impermanent Loss). Too many variables to guess what you will have in the end.

[ivory abyss]

righto

like if i bought 6 ILV tokens would that be considered a lot of in game currency when it releases?

[humble wave]

!ILV you do not need ILV to play.

[tidal garnet]

ILV is not needed for gameplay in any way. Instead it has three main functions:

Governance:
Together, we have the power to shape the future of Illuvium through our community collaboration on game improvement proposals as well as electing the initial model of governance, the Illuvinati Council.

Liquidity Mining:
Here, you will gain more ILV (or sILV). Additional ILV will increase your voting power in governance & increase your share of vault distributions.

Vault Distributions:
When you stake ILV, you share in Illuvium's success and earn a passive income of additional ILV, funded through in-game purchases and fees. Vault distributions will only be available from sales and once the game and Illuvidex are launched.

For further details please read:
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507

[granite sparrow]

Should you buy ILV through xyz as the apy is higher, what benefit does that offer

[wicked marten]

Hating on eth is like hating on biggie smalls. Yeah he's big and heavy but he changed the game. Respect it! Lol

[humble wave]

what do you mean buying ILV through XYZ?

[severe pumice]

jut bit the bullet on the fees for staking my ILV. Just want that Silv for gameplay

[humble wave]

sILV will have use case by land sale 🙂 but yeah, if you need more sILV, you gotta get in early

[autumn vigil]

Lezgo! Haha Together we fly!

[pine swift]

You can stake anywhere. There's nothing that other projects do which prevents you from staking. Ethereum is number 2 because the rest of the projects sure as hell took their sweet time instead of filling the obvious void. Things often don't move very fast in crypto world except for prices. And, yes, I severely dislike this extent of over promising and under delivering here. And obvious lies. I mean, Buterin and the crew were traveling all over the world wowing everybody with their lies that Ethereum was an Internet 2.0 world's supercomputer, while it was not even able to handle 100K concurrent users. And it especially blew my mind that people who created that shit of a platform were called geniuses. I mean, any mid-level Software Engineer could've come up with something way more scalable. When you create a new solution for a wide adoption - scalability is one of the top priorities. User friendliness is another one. But when Ethereum came out it was neither scalable, not user friendly. If I built some crap like that - I would've gotten fired.

[severe pumice]

yeah i am not a whale. Just a fan of gaming, and this look OP - cant wait

[pine swift]

Biggie Smalls actually created quality products.

[dusty plank]

I feel like I'm just giving you a platform to complain about Ethereum through and this hasn't really been a conversation, it's just been you complaining about Ethereum.

I won't be continuing this topic with you, sorry duder!

[severe pumice]

is there somewhere to have a look at the land sale concept for beta and how it works? just want a better understanding of it please

[acoustic urchin]

Pinned messages in #🎮〕illuvium-zero

[wicked marten]

There's a full game design document in the illuvium zero channel.

[severe pumice]

thanking you.

[wicked marten]

It's the "Spoiler" doc

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-baby-yoda-mandolorian-hello-gif-20136589

[charred knot]

Morning all

[severe pumice]

lol, dont think anything could spoil this game. hope so anyway

[acoustic urchin]

Morning 🌄☕

[wicked marten]

Haha we are already blessed with so many leaks 🙏, but the message it's behind actually says Spoiler on it hahaha. That's how you'll recognize you're in the right place. S

[severe pumice]

just saw it XD

[pine swift]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but if I stake ILV at 600% for a year and then it pumps, say, 30x, then due to Impermanent Loss I can get back almost all ETH instead of ILV and despite the huge gains in terms of the number of ETH I get back - I'll still have missed out on major ILV gains, granted that ETH doesn't appreciate by more than 3x from here.

[humble wave]

yeah. The more pump it makes, the more you lose it.

[twilit junco]

https://tenor.com/view/puppy-cup-good-morning-cute-puppy-yawn-gif-14168332

[pine swift]

I'm complaining about Ethereum because it's a major potential point of failure for Illuvial even if the game knock everybody's socks off.

[humble wave]

Hey @twilit junco 🙂

[acoustic urchin]

Morning 🌄☕

[wicked marten]

I just ran that scenario in the calculator. I think you lose about 42 percent. So your eth amount basically triples but you lose about 80 percent of your ILV. The thought is the annual return mitigates a lot of that IL though.

[pine swift]

Thanks

Also, as the number of stakers increases - that APY should drop significantly, correct?

[obtuse patrol]

It pumping 30x from here though, means you've made 180000% or some shit? Because for every 1 ilv you put in, you get 6+. So sure you lose all your ilv you put in, but the compounded ilv returns are nuts. + Rev dis on every ilv you got...

[wicked marten]

Yeah I'm not quite sure the math on how quickly it declines, but it's somewhat correlated to the volume of liquidity relative to the volume of txs afaik.

But I'm expecting it to decline pretty quickly in the next few months and then the curve flattens... Not sure if I have any evidence that supports tho though lol

Prob could post the question in staking and someone more informed could chime in

[pine swift]

Thanks. So, when I first stake the APY is not locked in for me for the rest of the year, correct? It changes day-by-day, right?

[wicked marten]

Yup variable return

[obtuse patrol]

Correct. As time goes on it automatically lowers I think 3% every 2 weeks? It raises as ilv raises in cost if I've understood properly though so it could MAYBE stay high all year depends how many people throw money at it. It'll get super expensive to stake though after Rev dis starts because ilv will be expensive as shi*

[pine swift]

So, in that case, if I expect a massive ILV pump and a massive APY drop soon - the 600% APY doesn't quite look that good any more.

[celest root]

Hi guys! Just wondering... How much ilv will it cost to evolve an illuvial to its final form?

[obtuse patrol]

So don't put it into the slp pool then. Put it in the other and/or do flexible...its up to you to decide. Hell don't do it at all and just play the game to earn if you want.

[pine swift]

That's what I'm thinking as well.

[wicked marten]

There's trade-offs, I'm personally giving up apy in return for a shorter stake period on a majority of my position. Long term stake for the rest. But getting 2 ILV a week arm so I can't say its bad lol.

[obtuse patrol]

None ILV isn't used in game.

[dusty plank]

APY should decrease over time. Overall rewards distributed decrease by 3% every 2 weeks. (Note that this IS NOT 3% less APY).

Spikes in ILV historically have led to small-ish increases in APY, due to a few different factors, including flexible stakers withdrawing their stake to sell and a few other things.

But overall, APY should be decreasing over time simply due to more people/tokens/capital in the pools and the decreasing overall rewards distributed.

Also we should be in #🥩〕staking 😉 I heard Stormi was watching...

[obtuse patrol]

Ah thanks. That does make sense, I thought it was a 3% decrease in apr. Oops.

[wicked marten]

We're just talking about steaks over here, no worries

[celest root]

What token will we used to evolve illuvials?

[obtuse patrol]

The entire game is balanced around USD in ETH. I'm not sure what the fuse fee is, I just know about the travel fee and shard cure fee

[wicked marten]

I believe you fuse 3x of the same illuvial to evolve, which results in burning the nft

[pine swift]

That's a good approach. Personally, I like the flexibility of being able to take profits or dump in case the game disappoints or Ethereum makes it impossible for people to play it, which would be impossible if I were locked in for a year.

[wicked marten]

Yeah I think that's a valid approach. I'll probably offload some before launch and then hold in the single asset pool from there. Logging for the night. Later all.

[obtuse patrol]

Wait what are you even talking about? How the heck would eth make it impossible to play?

[pine swift]

Ethereum is notoriously clogged and Axie Infinity is already experiencing issues with scalability because of it. And since it's by far the most popular dApp on Ethereum and if it continues growing at its current pace clogging Ethereum even more - we might get to the point where it may become nearly impossible to even play Illuvial when it's released. And especially when it reaches a very high number of users.

[obtuse patrol]

Its...not...on...etherum....literally on a layer 2.

The only way this would make sense is if you're saying eth would be clogged SO bad that it's impossible to buy eth at all, in order to move it to the games layer 2. Unless you think gas fees will go to like 400 again and stay constant

The values are balanced around USD not ETH. So ETH could go to 100k and it wouldn't make the game more expensive to play.

[pine swift]

And where do you think Layer 2 settles? It batches the transactions instead of settling them one-by-one, but ultimately it still has to settle on Ethereum. Axie Infinity is doing something similar and they are already running into the wall.

And yes, the more clogged Ethereum is - the higher the gas fees. So, I wouldn't rule anything out here, even the 400 number.

[obtuse patrol]

It's a DAO we can change whatever we like.

Also axies issues are...quite significant. I'd say maybe some of it has to do with being on eth...but not really. It's a poor gameplay loop that forces a malicious pyramid scheme.

Nothing will ever, ever replace eth. And the game isn't being moved off of it.

And if somehow it does, I guess we could move it.

[pine swift]

DAO can't change Ethereum

Unless we vote to move Illuvial to a different platform like Solana or Cosmos. And even then the developers, founders and investors can easily out vote us in the next 3 years.

[obtuse patrol]

You're just here constantly pushing Solana and cosmos in half your messages. Eth is fine. If 2.0 fails then worry sure. Layer 2 works fine. Tech advances. Eth is too big and too widely used to be replaced.

[flat ore]

if ILV is not on eth. I will be the first in line to exit.

[humble wave]

plain and simple lol

[obtuse patrol]

I don't get why he's pushing it so hard tbh. I think I agree with you lol. Eth is the best bet, unless you believe some little blockchain project will replace it.

[flat ore]

people always want the next eth killer.

[ivory panther]

Show me your finest ILV gifs

[dusty plank]

There's some good info on L2 here for anyone interested btw - https://immutablex.medium.com/

[vagrant inlet]

Morning everyone

Woke up today and saw ILV below $5,000, realized we are all super early and everyday till then is a blessing

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-baby-yoda-mandolorian-hello-gif-20136589

waiting for some dips
want more ILV

[obtuse patrol]

I mean...more ILV or...or...save till game release. Hmmm. Guess depends on eth. Then again maybe I should get a loan for ilv now lmao

[pure fox]

haha please invest with the money you can afford

[ivory panther]

Do you think they will release the gameplay in august?

[obtuse patrol]

I can...afford a loan tho...technically (;

[humble wave]

still have a week 🙂

[vagrant inlet]

Unfortunately, I think the only way ILV dips now is if massive fear floods the market, which seems unlikely right now

[obtuse patrol]

Confirmed. Trailer this week. Leak. Leak.

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/cat-booty-ass-shake-shaking-gif-5746219

[simple ermine]

I’d love for it to drop august, but I’m happy for them to take their time(if needed). The trailer has been hyped up for a while and many are holding out until they see it. 🙂

[humble wave]

can't wait to watch. Though I'm itching to show it to my students and colleagues and other ppl more. I already know how great ILV is. Don't need the extra hype...They need it 😄

[pine swift]

If Ethereum was fine then the most popular dApp currently using it - Axie Infinity - wouldn't be hitting a wall just like the most popular dApp using it in 2017 - Crypto Kitties - did as well. Ethereum 2.0 will not be completely ready for, potentially, another 2 years. It's being rolled out in stages and they are, sure as hell, taking their time. Illuvial will be out long before 2.0 is completely ready. So, if it hits the wall right out the gate - it could be catastrophic for its prospects. Since I know a little something about Software Engineering I've never seen a situation where an initially terribly designed and built solution being patched the way Ethereum is ended well. It had to be rewritten from scratch pretty much every time. There were plenty of other technologies and companies which were too big and widely used to be replaced which got replaced. So, Ethereum wouldn't be the first one here.

[flat ore]

bro. you just invest in what you want. no need to convince other.

[pine swift]

Why would not want to replace something that doesn't work?

[pure fox]

you mean scalability?

[obtuse patrol]

Well illuvium has learned from all of axies mistakes so...considering it also has you know...100 more employees don't you think they can figure it out? If they didn't think eth was best it wouldn't be on eth. Eth is best because it is widely accepted and widely developed on and whatever other reasons they've determined. It's a billion dollar project, or will be. You think they haven't thought about this?

[pine swift]

I invested in ILV. So, it's in my best interests for it to succeed. And Ethereum has a history of buckling under the pressure of popular projects which I hope Illuvial will be one of.

[vagrant inlet]

https://tenor.com/view/bullish-stakefish-proof-of-stake-staking-tezos-gif-17750052

[pine swift]

It doesn't matter how many employees they have if they use the technology which doesn't work. And they chose Ethereum probably because no other mature smart-contracts platform was on the market at the time. Now, some viable options are appearing.

[pure fox]

it'll depend on side-chain IMX i guess or ILV own like ronin for axie

[fossil estuary]

Hi people! quick question. If i lock the LP for the 12 months and the reward comes in ILV, can I claim it? and if so how it continues to be locked?

[obtuse patrol]

Oh yeah? I didn't know that. Either way I'm all for eth and I don't mind it being on the eth blockchain at all. That guy literally pushes Solana in here constantly. I guess he doesn't believe in the layer 2 protocol who knows? Maybe he's just worried

[pine swift]

But IMX still has to settle on Ethereum, which means that with enough users it will be clogging an already clogged Ethereum.

[humble wave]

Please ask your questions in #🥩〕staking but after claiming the rewards, they will also be locked for 12 months in the vesting section and you will be able to withdraw them then or leave them there to generate more Revenue for you

[pine swift]

And how do you know that? It's not even a POS yet. That feature is coming and hasn't been battle-tested, unlike some of the other platforms out there. So, now the Ethereum consensus mechanism will be completely overhauled and you probably know that brand new products like that are the most at risk of security breach.

[fossil estuary]

more 12 months or the same 12 months? and they will earn the staking reward (80%) right?

Thank you for the help

[humble wave]

The one year vesting starts after claiming. So each batch has it's own 1-year lock. and APY does n't remain the same. It drops and you'll get fewer rewards. It is not fixed. vplease ask your question regarding staking in #🥩〕staking thx 🙂

[pine swift]

Ripple is now challenging that determination in a lawsuit against SEC and have a very high chance of success. They are arguing that SEC arbitrarily decided that ETH wasn't a security while XRP was. And probably because of that I haven't heard SEC cracking down on any crypto projects in a while. Plus, a remote possibility of of being challenged by SEC shouldn't inform your decision to pick an inferior solution.

[tame solar]

Guys take this to #799010390201466880

[pine swift]

They could always work on a parallel track just in case Ethereum fails spectacularly. There are quite a few dApps out there which are integrated into multiple platforms. I guess now they have to launch on Ethereum, but could start working on a backup plan. What do you think about Cloud Atlas. It looks very neat with excellent graphics.

[small wren]

And why's that? Are you a fan of the robbery(also known as gas fees)? Eth is complete failure of its purpose as of this point and you gotta be hella biased to say otherwise, it's not about going on the ethkiller, it's about having that accessibility where not every gas transaction cost you as much as real car gas to drive 500 miles or something

We're trying to do things better than in the real world banking right? It may be better for the whales, but it's certainly worse for the shrimps

[humble wave]

Guys listen to the mod. take it #799010390201466880 if you wanna discuss ETH or other chains

[pine swift]

Well, it's not completely off-topic, because the whole conversation revolves about Ethereum being a potential point of failure for Illuvium.

[small wren]

Damn If we'll be doing transactions on eth, it'll be a nightmare, these 50 usd to get an ilv.. Consider another 50 usd for gas fees 🤡

[humble wave]

might be, but many ppl have lots of questions about ILV and the game and their comments get lost between a sea of chain comments. Gotta keep it plain and simple for newer lads

[humble wave]

Good thing that you'll be receiving 100% of the rev to compensate all the fees you've ever paid and more. 🙂

[acoustic urchin]

are they aware that with the immutable X there's no peer to peer gas fees for items

[small wren]

But still why throw that money out the window for gas fees? Are the devs seriously relying on eth for all transactions? Every single game has moved off-chain/sidechain to survive

[humble wave]

I do believe so. If not, They know now by your comment 😄

[humble wave]

No one loves paying gas. But as we are already on ETH, we'll stay there and ETH 2.0 will most likely fix the issue and as I said the Rev will give all your money back, so you're not throwing it out the window really.

[small wren]

I was speaking about acquiring illuvial, not ILV, might sound misleading

[acoustic urchin]

yeah no gas fees in game or on game market my dude , ultimate pog

[small wren]

The capture process might be something that won't be on IMX, or is it? Or yet unknown?

[acoustic urchin]

i share you the good news one sec

[humble wave]

everything in game is on IMX. Outside Transactions will require gas only

[small wren]

Oh okay, we're good then 😂

[acoustic urchin]

welcome to the brotherhood my friend, hype train all aboard

[strong spindle]

hello everyone

[pine swift]

But ultimately IMX has to settle transactions on Ethereum. So, how can it do it without paying the gas fees?

[humble wave]

hello and welcome 🙂

[acoustic urchin]

https://tenor.com/view/magic-shia-labeouf-snl-skit-fingers-gif-4860090

[strong spindle]

here from on chain gaming

[humble wave]

!IMX everything about IMX will be here

[tidal garnet]

Illuvium uses Immutable X as a layer 2 solution. This means that you won’t be charged network gas fees within Illuvium and instead only need to transfer funds between the Ethereum Mainnet and Immutable X. This keeps the player's cost of doing business low, maximizing potential gain. For more information about Immutable X check out https://www.immutable.com/

[humble wave]

welcome. feel free to roam around, ask questions and whatever you need

[strong spindle]

Is there going to be a scholarship element to the game ?

[humble wave]

!read No. I recommend going thorough this:

[tidal garnet]

Some important sources of information that everyone interested in and/or new to Illuvium should take a careful look at are:

https://docs.illuvium.io/
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507

[solemn saffron]

It’s f2p man, if you wanna play, just play. It’s cool like that

[small wren]

There was planned to be lending so that might work kinda similar, if I'm not mistaken

[humble wave]

lending?

[small wren]

I think one of the CEOs mentioned it on one of the recent interviews, but again I could be wrong

[humble wave]

idk about that. I proposed an idea some time ago, but nothing has been confirmed and it's not an immediate issue really. The main focus should be on the game(s) for now. Other side projects come later

[small wren]

Yeah, i agree

[solemn saffron]

Yeah a smooth launch would be the bee’s knees

[humble wave]

That's the plan. We haven't been seeing any leaks lately, which means only one thing: The team is SUPER BUSY on releasing the Gameplay soon.

[solemn saffron]

Haha that’s a good metric lol. Looking forward to the demo personally

[river bridge]

Hey guys when is the game expected to debut?

[pine swift]

Probably December or early next year

[solemn saffron]

Early next year would be nice. More time to prepare lol

[hazy beacon]

the earliest the team is ready, when they're fully ready, would be gr8. the last time i bought a game in december was cyberpunk ):

[humble wave]

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Closed beta in late Q3 / early Q4
• Mystery auction before launch
• Open beta / launch on PC in late Q4
• Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

[languid silo]

Such a great game, might need to replay it🤔something to tie me over before Illuvium hits

[hazy beacon]

Closed beta is going to have applications for testers, correct?

[humble wave]

apparently so.

[river bridge]

What’s the mystery auction?

[humble wave]

a mystery 🙂 gotta have to wait and see

[hazy beacon]

auction on illuviDEX?!

[languid silo]

Probabley something completley insane:-)with more Revdis😂

[humble wave]

Not disclosed yet as it's a mystery in itself

[humble wave]

To have the audacity to call it "Mystery Acution" probably means it's big and profitable for both part takers and non-part takers

[languid silo]

Somebody should feed Kieran some booz in the next interview and see if he drops the ball on mystery auction:-)

[languid silo]

Yeah,my hype level is already too high dont think i can take more..

[humble wave]

do we feed on booz? or drink it? just wondering

[hazy beacon]

Feed

[humble wave]

so we eat the bottle too. gocha lol

[languid silo]

We drink,but feed is the same like you poure some extra wine for your wife so she gets in a better mood:-)

[humble wave]

ok let's not go off-topic now 😄

[valid mulch]

hey all, I caught wind of this through a YT recommendation. So the game's gonna be like, catch the NFTs and do battle in an autobattler style bout?

[sweet carbon]

yo nice name. dont know if you're gonna know the reference but STELLA! XD

[humble wave]

My name? thx. No idk about that 🙂

[fading grove]

$58 for gas at the moment. FFS

[strong fog]

dam that's hella high

[humble wave]

kinda 🙂

[sweet carbon]

lets just say the name arash is very legendary 🙂

[humble wave]

Thanks man 🙂

[valid mulch]

aight cool so I did read into it correctly

[humble wave]

!read you can read all about it here:

[tidal garnet]

Some important sources of information that everyone interested in and/or new to Illuvium should take a careful look at are:

https://docs.illuvium.io/
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507

[fervent scarab]

is there a pre-sale of this game. can't find where to buy

[pine swift]

I'm seeing another potential issue here. So, the statement says that any transactions inside the game itself are free, but to deposit money you have to pay gas fees, which now easily average $60. Since the devs plan to make people pay for playing - this adds up to a significant cost. And what if a player wants to top up? He has to pay another $60 just to transfer $50? And what if Axie Infinity and Illuvium clog Ethereum to the point where the fees double, triple or quadruple? In that case the game may be out of reach for quite a few people. Anyways, devs can't help the ridiculous gas fees, but maybe they should give up on the idea of pay-to-play to make the game somewhat more affordable. I mean, plenty of money can be made through the marketplace transactions. So, no need to fleece the players further through pay-to-play model.

[humble wave]

nope. everyone start the same. You can prepare to buy Land though

[fervent scarab]

I see thanks

[humble wave]

!buy you can buy ILV here though:

[tidal garnet]

We recommend buying ILV on the main DEX here: https://app.sushi.com/swap?inputCurrency=ETH&outputCurrency=0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e
After acquiring your ILV, make sure to add the ILV token to your wallet. You can find the contract address at https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/illuvium and in the case of MetaMask, you can just click on the Fox next to the contract address to add the token.

In case you don’t want to use SushiSwap, ILV can also be found on the following CEX's:

• Gate.io (non US residents) https://www.gate.io/trade/ILV_USDT
• Bitcoin.com

Here is a video that goes into detail how to buy ILV and stake it afterwards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6YugU4zZr4

[analog turtle]

i deposited some money to imx a few days ago to buy some nfts and the gas fee was $8 so its not bad depending on the time

just deposit before the game comes out if youre worried about gas fees on launch

[pine swift]

Right now it's a little over $60, but I've noticed that during the daytime in the US it sometimes reaches $90-$100

[slow marlin]

That is a valid point!

[analog turtle]

wont eth 2.0 kinda solve gas? i could be wrong dont really know

[royal saffron]

those who do not want to pay they can play for free, those who want to pay to play and earn have to deal with it until eth 2.0 comes out, which should be by spring, which is nothing

[slow marlin]

Let's just hope that eth 2.0 comes right on time with the game's launch. Gas could really hurdle some players going in

[tame solar]

IMX is also having plans to be able to get ETH/whatever directly on their L2 thru credit cards.

Either way this game is being developed to be on IMX, and there is no plans to switch to BSC, SOL, or whatever. If you think that needs to be changed you can submit an ICCP.

[sage falcon]

Does anyone know when the game is releasing?

[twilit junco]

!timeline 🙂

[tidal garnet]

• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Closed beta in late Q3 / early Q4
• Mystery auction before launch
• Open beta / launch on PC in late Q4
• Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

[pine swift]

So far the Ethereum team absolutely sucked ass at delivering on time. They are often years late, not months. So, I'm not holding my breath about Spring Ethereum 2.0 delivery. And neither are mining rig manufacturers. They are building those rigs as if the Ethereum 2.0 delivery is years away. That's not mention that the Ethereum 2.0 effect could fall far short of expectations. Badly designed and built solutions, such as Ethereum is, are rarely successful at being patched. They usually require a complete rebuild from the ground up.

[royal saffron]

I still dont see what point you are trying to make tho, forgo the pay-to-play/earn model? for what? that is the whole point

[acoustic urchin]

man all morning you've just been complaining in here, i understand your pov and frustrations but I don't think this channel is the place to just shill stuff

[severe pumice]

you know what they say.. just gotta spend money to make money

[royal saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/bitcoin-crypto-cryptocurrency-invest-investment-gif-21344956

[twilit junco]

That's the beauty of a DAO. If you think something needs to be changed, gather support, submit a proposal and convince the Council 🙂 I'm pretty sure though that nothing will change in regards to ETH + IMX and that is right so in my books.

[pine swift]

And what's the fun in that if the experience won't be the same? The vast majority of people will definitely be interested in the experience offered by a paying game.

[tame solar]

Guys we had enough of this conversation

[balmy bone]

is the game a sandbox style?

[royal saffron]

The daily FUD convo came to an end

[tame solar]

If you feel you need to suggest a change go to #809220563397902346

[twilit junco]

!gameplay

[tidal garnet]

Illuvium is a collectible NFT RPG game and auto-battler rolled into one. There is an open-world RPG experience in the overworld, where you mine, harvest, capture, and fight Illuvials.

Once you have assembled your team you can join the fray in the autobattler where you strategically build your teams to beat your opponents in battle. The Illuvials possess unique stats, classes, and affinities. The synergy of your team—based on how you match their strengths and compensate for weaknesses—could mean a winning streak for you.

Additional information can be found here:
https://docs.illuvium.io/whitepaper/game-overview
https://medium.com/illuvium/illuvium-2-gameplay-2e418577fadb

[pine swift]

Sorry for being too serious about preserving my investment to drop rainbows and unicorns all over the place.

[acoustic urchin]

just a different channel that mods deem the convo acceptable is all, has nothing to do with serious or unicorns, you are 100% entitled to your opinion and sharing it

[twilit junco]

You have stated your opinion clearly now. From here on there are three options:

• Accept that nothing will change regarding ETH as Network
• Submit a proposal to try and change the network ILV is being built on
• Stop investing / Pull out of Illuvium and invest elsewhere

To continue repeating the same arguments that the current conversation partners don't think are convincing enough is not bringing you any success nor is it contributing to a healthy discord. There is a limit when a certain point needs to be laid to rest or proper effort invested to submit a professional proposal 🙂

[pine swift]

I'm saying that it's obviously too late to move away from Ethreum at this point, but a contingency plan could be made, such as a parallel development on Solana or some other platform just in case. Illuvium wouldn't be the first dApp to be integrated into multiple platforms. And it's not like they would have to overhaul the entire game for this, just the internals of the marketplace.

[severe pumice]

I remember playing pokemon on gameboy as a kid..

[acoustic urchin]

me too, in the car using street lights to see

[tranquil berry]

is it available to download yet?

[severe pumice]

YES! Always a struggle!

black and white portable gaming consoles - this younger generation will never know the struggle

[acoustic urchin]

open beta coming near end of Q4 (december)

[solemn saffron]

When we travel to a paid tier region how long does that travel last, anyone know?

[pine swift]

Eliminate pay-to-play to compensate for the ridiculous gas fees and everybody can earn by selling items in the marketplace.

[royal saffron]

yeah no...

[hazy beacon]

i watched some youtube videos and this topic was mentioned. afaik, it hasn't been disclosed yet.

[solemn saffron]

Yeah that’s where I’m at too, thanks

[split locust]

Wow all these leaks! The art is really beautiful.

[pine swift]

How is talking about things affecting Illuvium not relevant?

[acoustic urchin]

It really is, curious what powers it'll have

[pine swift]

Immutable X - unlikely because it's built on top of Ethereum and can only process ERC-20 tokens.

[last pagoda]

As far as I’m aware Solana is based on rust so will be pretty difficult for them to develop in parallel as that’s a very different way of programming than solidity. Maybe if Solana becomes EVM compatible they can do this but last I checked this isn’t the case

[split locust]

Yeah Ethereum gas fee is a huge problem right now.

[severe pumice]

NO, please not again.

Yo Illuv crew.. Can i suggest maybe a Cyrpto talk chat?

[last pagoda]

I thought the game being built on Immutable X solved the gas issue or am I missing something?

[tame solar]

IMX has their own plans to ramp from credit cards

[severe pumice]

nice

[solemn saffron]

You pay one gas fee to onboard money to immutable X so do it every couple of weeks. When traveling and catching and all that there won’t be gas fees. Only exchanges on the dex and betting on matches will be the in game fees that have gas fees attached I believe.

[severe pumice]

my understanding also

[stray swan]

Maybe using Pulse Chain after it's launched. Since pILV will airdrop for everyone who holds ILV.

[solemn saffron]

But if people are doing free to play are there really any gas fees attached to that? Not really from what I can gather

[pine swift]

It doesn't matter what Solana is built on. It's just another language. So, the Illuvium game itself is built on Unreal Engine using C++, I believe, but it didn't prevent the developers from implementing the internals of the marketplace in Solidity. There's no issue in mixing languages inside the same solution. Discord website is most likely built with some Javascript or Typescript framework on the front end with some other server-side language on the back end, plus SQL in the data layer.

[stray swan]

Well no gas fees until a player wants to mint anything

[pine swift]

Gas fees are only attached to financial transactions, such as transferring ETH or some other ERC-20 tokens and swapping them between each other. The game itself is built on Unreal gaming engine, not Ethereum.

[magic magnet]

Morning all - any new teasers out there?

[twilit junco]

Just keep an eye on #🚰〕leaks 🙂

[rough bone]

is the gameplay trailer coming close?

[twilit junco]

This month is still the latest estimation I'm aware of. So I'm keeping my hopes up 🙂

[rough bone]

nice

[pine swift]

You still pay gas fees when you deposit money.

I think that that there's a lot of confusion here with people thinking that Immutable X eliminates the gas fees inside the game completely. That would make no sense because ultimately it has to settle its transactions on Ethereum and that involves paying gas fees every time. Immutable X can slash those fees by batching the transactions, but not eliminate them completely. And I just remembered that in Giancarlo's video, I believe, he showed the marketplace fee structure where a buyer is charged 5% sales fee plus 1% IMX fee on top of that.

[harsh plaza]

You prep'd your resume/speech to apply for the upcoming council member thingo?
Know any other prominent members who will be applying?

[ivory panther]

Is the august alpha game release still on the table? Will they able to share content or it will be totally closed.

[twilit junco]

No idea who is going to run for council. I'm still waiting on the team to announce how/when the election and nomination is taking place this time 🙂

[abstract sable]

Any updates about the game? I'm new, what should i buy to get into it already? And how much. Thanks for the answer

[severe pumice]

Get your ILV and stake it - more info in the staking discussion and the team have made some good instructional videos to help

[eternal chasm]

When the game@come out and do you have to buy the game and where would you play the game

[harsh plaza]

Game is aiming to be released in late Q4, there will be a land sale in a few months, that will be used in a mini-game that ties in with the main game.
If you want to earn some of the revenue that the game will generate (including from the land sales) you should look into the ILV token and make an assessment if it's right for you 🙂

[eternal chasm]

If you play the game you get ILV and when you capture creatures are they all unique and 1 of 1 so you can make them a nft

[harsh plaza]

Game is free to play.

[twilit junco]

!f2p

[tidal garnet]

You begin our game with a free-to-play experience that immerses you in our richly-detailed world, lets you enjoy some action, and helps you understand how the game works. The free-to-play experience of the Tier 0 regions will familiarize you with Illuvium, and won’t feel like an “abridged” version of the game. It is a full-fledged gameplay experience! If you like it, you can then decide to opt in to the paid experience, start collecting NFTs from higher tiered regions, and delve into deeper adventures to explore the mysteries of the game where the NFTs you gather start to hold more value as well.

Just after game launch, when everyone starts fresh, you might even be able to sell free Tier 0 NFTs on the IlluviDEX for ETH, but there is no guarantee for that.

[twilit junco]

!earn

[tidal garnet]

In Illuvium there will be several options to P2E:

• sell captured Illuvials
• sell farmed materials
• sell crafted items
• play the marketplace (buy low, sell high)
• wager on battles in the Leviathan Arena
• earn some of the 1 Million ILV set aside for in-game rewards
• …

BUT, while the game will be free to play, in order to participate in the earning part of the economy, a bit of money needs to be invested. A full cycle of travelling, curing shards, etc. is currently estimated to be around $50 (this can still change).

[eternal chasm]

How much will the game be so you can actually make money

[twilit junco]

Read the two messages I just triggered for you, the answer is in there already 🙂 Also:

!read

[tidal garnet]

Some important sources of information that everyone interested in and/or new to Illuvium should take a careful look at are:

https://docs.illuvium.io/
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507

[ivory panther]

Show the time line please

[twilit junco]

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Closed beta in late Q3 / early Q4
• Mystery auction before launch
• Open beta / launch on PC in late Q4
• Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

[eternal chasm]

So it’s $50 but when you play the game can you earn ILV or you just collect NFTs and sell for money

[twilit junco]

It says that in the same msg here: #💬〕general message

Also, please take the time to read all the provided information via the links I gave you as well as #791148036935516161 #❓〕faq and #🔗〕helpful-links . A ton of information is easily to be found with a bit of effort and we're happy to fill in the gaps afterwards 🙂

[fallow gale]

how does one get into the closed beta

[ivory panther]

Wasnt the closed béta first said to be released to end of august?

[twilit junco]

Read pinned/last message in #795444126421483520 🙂

[tight egret]

Hello, new to the project, looking into investing in a project on long term, but I see Illivium price is already through the roof.

[twilit junco]

It said "summer" which was too ambiguous and therefor was changed in an update. The roadmap in the whitepaper still says "October".

[slate tinsel]

market cap is still quite low

[twilit junco]

You need to look at market cap, not token price alone.

!mc

[tidal garnet]

Market cap is the total value of a project, calculated by multiplying token price and circulating supply. It is one of the best metrics for judging the value of a project, because token price alone does not take the existing amount of tokens into consideration. Great projects with a lesser amount of tokens often have a higher token price because of the token scarcity.

Always remember that market cap is a dynamic metric that changes every time the token price or the circulating supply of the token changes.

[twilit junco]

For anything else about token price, please use #💰〕token thanks 🙂

[fallow gale]

Thank you! Also one last thing, will the higher tier illuvials be purchased using ILV or ETH? (i.e. paid gameplay)

[eternal chasm]

So there will only be 1 million ILV in the game as rewards so after that’s gone no more ILV can be rewarded @twilit junco

[twilit junco]

No Illuvials will be sold by the DAO directly. Everyone starts fresh at launch. So if you buy any Illuvials at all, then you do so with ETH on the marketplace from other players 🙂

[fallow gale]

I heard that tier 0 zone will be f2p, and higher tiers are only accessible for paying players?

[pine swift]

The model should be to attract as many players as possible. Not everybody can afford to pay gas fees, potentially multiple times if they want to continue playing and need to top up. There are plenty of ways to make a shitload of money without charging players for travel and hunt. Fortnight is completely free and yet it blew the pay model competition out of the water in terms of profitability thanks to a massive user base most of whom were initially attracted to its free model.

[twilit junco]

Yes and no. For now 1M are allocated for in-game yield and please consider first how much that is. ILV is most likely for sure going to hit a price tag of $1.000+ which means this is more than $1b USD being handed out via gameplay. But if that would ever be drained completely then nothing stops the DAO from allocating additional ILV back to in game yield from the Revenue that is generated and the share that the Treasury Tokens take of that for the DAO 🙂

[royal saffron]

i think you are missing the point of this project? The in game fees will go back to stakers, with revenue distribution. how much revenue does fortnite gives back to the players?

[eternal chasm]

Is this game gonna be like free roam but when you get into fights it’s like Pokémon you choose your attacks

[twilit junco]

!gameplay

[tidal garnet]

Illuvium is a collectible NFT RPG game and auto-battler rolled into one. There is an open-world RPG experience in the overworld, where you mine, harvest, capture, and fight Illuvials.

Once you have assembled your team you can join the fray in the autobattler where you strategically build your teams to beat your opponents in battle. The Illuvials possess unique stats, classes, and affinities. The synergy of your team—based on how you match their strengths and compensate for weaknesses—could mean a winning streak for you.

Additional information can be found here:
https://docs.illuvium.io/whitepaper/game-overview
https://medium.com/illuvium/illuvium-2-gameplay-2e418577fadb

[pine swift]

Epic Games created Fortnight. So, they pocketed all the money, not just some percentage of it.

[pine swift]

I'm not saying that the rewards structure to stakers should change. I'm saying that a ridiculous amount of money can be made by eliminating pay-to-play model and attracting a ridiculous number of users, especially from outside the cryptosphere.

[eternal chasm]

Is the $50 for everything or do you have to pay more for the shards and stuff

[pine swift]

What problem? All stakers will still have their rewards! Only potentially more if more users start playing.

[tired hazel]

So what you're eliminating is travel fees and trading Illuvials for money?

[pine swift]

No, the illuvials should definitely be traded for money. Just eliminate the fee for catching and keeping them.

[eternal chasm]

I’m new would the gas fees only affect you when you want to move/sell/buy the nft from the game

[main anvil]

Hi, does anyone undestand how the staking system works for ILV ?

[royal saffron]

If you are CONVINCED that that is a better solution, you should go make a proposal. tho i am pretty certain it will flop, since the pay-to-play/earn is the fundamental element of this project. I don't see much point in just talking about it since i assume not many people agree with you

[slate tinsel]

head over to #🥩〕staking heaps of help over there

[severe pumice]

The fact that the team have pretty much dedicated a lot of time and effort to creating a system where the stake holders get back such incredible rewards..all i can say is.. shiiiiet what a bunch of legends.

[tired hazel]

Gas fees only affect you if want to transfer to and from Ethereum mainnet.

[tired hazel]

I see what you're saying but where would the revenue for stakers come from? I don't think we could rely just on skins.

[pine swift]

Why is everybody so eager to shut me up like I'm saying some completely insane shit? I think I'm raising some valid issues with relevant examples.

[royal saffron]

because it seems everybody is going right and you are going left and calling everybody to turn around, what other reaction do you expect? people talked to you, nobody said shut up or anything, i looked thorugh the conversations, it goes nowhere so... why?

[slate tinsel]

havent seen anyone eager to 'shut you up'... people are just saying if you think its a valid issue to make a proposal so it can be voted on.. It's great you are passionate about your investment. This might not be the best forum to have the conversation thats all

[wraith horizon]

[severe pumice]

You have, but man little bit reptative at this point. If you really wanna make a change.. write a letter to developers and go from there otherwise.. just let it go for now please.

[pine swift]

Illuvial sale, tool sale, land sale, other in-game items, tournament betting. I'm sure more sources of revenue can be deduced.

[acoustic urchin]

no point he's been doing this all morning, same blah blah for hours

[tired hazel]

Questioning the travel fee is a valid question but that's where some of the staking revenue comes from.

[royal saffron]

there has to be a barrier to entry into a play-to-earn economy, otherwise it is nto sustainable, how can you make money wiht 0 investment? where will the money come from

[pine swift]

So, what's the right forum to talk about the issues affecting the game this forum is wholly dedicated to?

[humble wave]

Still on the subject since 3 hours ago?

[acoustic urchin]

yep, new people take the bait and he preaches

[royal saffron]

https://tenor.com/view/right-ikr-yes-agree-jack-black-gif-10685739

[humble wave]

I'd suggest doing this and be done with it: #💬〕general message

[pine swift]

No, actually it's a different subject now - the pay-to-play model.

[calm arrow]

We got any more info on VN's mega leak?

[acoustic urchin]

no "mega leak" but there's new art in #🚰〕leaks

[rough bone]

whats the cap on this discord? like how many people can join

[wraith horizon]

Do you imagine a money rain on people that can’t even afford paying a travel fee? Gonna be full of people playing this with the idea of making money, shutting down the prices because of the ton offers of opportunity seekers with no money just trying to sell to the other 80% of people without money their illuvials

[pine swift]

Well, if I failed to convince you and you have nothing else to say - then you can drop the subject. But you keep challenging me and then are amazed that I defend my point of view.

[calm arrow]

I need the VN leak to end all leaks! I needs it

[acoustic urchin]

lol teleport me to december amiright

[tired hazel]

I'm lukewarm on the idea of "packs" but I'll trust Keiran that he's figured out the best model.

[royal saffron]

buddy, i am suggesting to you the only viable solution in your case. TO WRITE A DAMN PROPOSAL TO THE DAO TO CHANGE THE GAME HOW YOU THINK IT FITS... what else do you want, a continuous talk.. but i agree, i will drop the conversation.

[wraith horizon]

Ahaha yeah but even to the closed beta possibly

[calm arrow]

Just teleport me to the land sale. I want to see what happens

[acoustic urchin]

Really excited for the zero as well! ^^^

[wraith horizon]

100k offer ez

[calm arrow]

100k ether right? Bring on the T5 sale

[wraith horizon]

Well maybe 100 ether will be enough?

[ivory panther]

Land sale Already distributed as revdis?

[acoustic urchin]

then there's me hoping i can sneak in on t1-4 lol

[calm arrow]

Aren't we all. I'm eth poor, so gotta decide if I use sILV

[humble wave]

Any ETH spent will generate RevDis

[upbeat sonnet]

any idea how much is the min investment here?

[severe pumice]

is there a particular criteria you need have to be successful in applying for closed beta?

[twilit junco]

!f2p

[tidal garnet]

You begin our game with a free-to-play experience that immerses you in our richly-detailed world, lets you enjoy some action, and helps you understand how the game works. The free-to-play experience of the Tier 0 regions will familiarize you with Illuvium, and won’t feel like an “abridged” version of the game. It is a full-fledged gameplay experience! If you like it, you can then decide to opt in to the paid experience, start collecting NFTs from higher tiered regions, and delve into deeper adventures to explore the mysteries of the game where the NFTs you gather start to hold more value as well.

Just after game launch, when everyone starts fresh, you might even be able to sell free Tier 0 NFTs on the IlluviDEX for ETH, but there is no guarantee for that.

[acoustic urchin]

well thankfully the overall market is popping

[humble wave]

No minimum. Be mindful of gas though

[wraith horizon]

They will tell everything in the announcement channel at the right time

[rough bone]

i would invest atleast 250 dollars due to gas

[twilit junco]

Check last/pinned msg in #795444126421483520 . That is all there is to know for now 🙂

[pine swift]

I can imagine making it hard for them to score the illuvials, but not impossible. If they have no money - then they have to put in a lot of work. Again, Fortnight made a shitload of money with free play model. So, it's more than possible. Many people will be happy to pay more money for higher tier illuvials and lands.

[tired hazel]

You can start out with free Illuvials but the grind will be much more difficult.

[severe pumice]

SSoooo many requests! i dont like my chances. Open beta is fine

[severe pumice]

schweet

[wraith horizon]

😂😂

[meager bear]

In such huge project for sure will be tons of requests)

Looking forward to take part in any tests 👍🚀

[severe pumice]

probably gonna be a bunch of high profilers.. wouldn't suprise as it would be a great marketing strat.

[fallow gale]

!read

[tidal garnet]

Some important sources of information that everyone interested in and/or new to Illuvium should take a careful look at are:

https://docs.illuvium.io/
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507

[vivid hearth]

The prefix for this guild is: /

Nobody can see slash commands? Re-invite the bot and verify @everyone has the Use Application Commands permission.

[leaden oasis]

[fleet quartz]

Should I feel honored that I get tagged by a bot?

[ashen dagger]

Lmao

[calm arrow]

Get the ban hammer

[sage falcon]

im not a bot

[severe breach]

Wtf..

[vernal vale]

silence automaton

[fleet quartz]

in that case welcome my friend, try not to tag everyone

[calm arrow]

Especially not the team making the game. Lord oh Lord

[sage falcon]

sorry ,not gonna happen again

[severe pumice]

Lol, Uh oh

[steep flax]

Binance or ftx?

[severe pumice]

could be worst. was in a chat and spammed everysingle part of the chat with nudes

[red crater]

who pinged me? bishhhhhhh

[steep flax]

Plz me

[pine swift]

That could also work. The point is that quantity eventually turns into quality and many people who came for a free game will end up shelling out some $. And the sheer size of the community and an economic opportunity this represents can draw in more people willing to spend.

[tribal karma]

Hi Why is the Staking Gas Fee so high.. ~$40

[vast kestrel]

I cannot understand how there are not more youtubers out there speaking about Illuvium. With the Warwick brothers being known as well. Holding back with advertisement until after beta?

[vast heart]

There will be. Still very early! Btw quick question. We can stake already correct?

[steep flax]

Ahhhhhh. Dont talk about it. Let them wait till the release so we can stack more ILV

[steep flax]

Yep

[slate tinsel]

Correct.. #🥩〕staking has heaps of info

[tranquil pebble]

Will the land plots be NFTs which can be sold on secondary markets like OS?

[vast heart]

Cool, appreciate it! Was taking a look at that. Is it worth like do you stake?

[slate tinsel]

Yep, staking since it was first available

[vast kestrel]

I'm so torn, even considering selling off some ETH. But it just hurts my heart

[light knot]

It's better to hold back on marketing for now imo, alot of money to be made elsewhere in the crypto space atm so people won't be patient enough to wait till the release

[vast kestrel]

Fair point

[tranquil pebble]

Any insight on how lands will be traded after the initial sale?

[slate tinsel]

I haven’t looked into that, because I plan to buy and not sell the land .. but check over in #🎮〕illuvium-zero … might be able to search there

[meager bear]

I think same as other nfts at opensea etc unless we got own marketplace

[pine swift]

The Warwick brothers are already advertising the hell out of Illuvium by giving out interviews left and right. But, what would they market if the release date is not even set yet? Plus, considering the rapidly increasing size of this Discord channel there will already be a large user base on day one of Illuvium launch. And it's in their best interests to see how well the game handles the existing user base before trying to attract more.

[light knot]

Yea I agree, I think they should wait for paid yt and twitter marketing (if they would even have to do that as most will prolly pick it up on their own), I think the interviews they do now is cause people ask them theirselves

[vast kestrel]

💯

[lofty knoll]

Pinned in the #🎮〕illuvium-zero channel.

[twilit junco]

While some commands work for everyone at the moment, this is a bug and being worked on. Please refrain from using them. If we ever want others than mods/team using them, we will announce it properly. Thanks 🙂

[pure fox]

or else stormi will . . .

https://tenor.com/view/ban-banned-permaban-youre-banned-you-are-banned-gif-20922596

[fallow gale]

Ok

[split lintel]

How are yall going today?

[pure fox]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-there-baby-yoda-mandolorian-hello-gif-20136589

[whole monolith]

Hope is channel is okay. Can anyone tell me the actual cost of exchanging eth to ILV in gwei? Like gasnow and etherscan show 50-60gwei as 4usd but thats not right

[split lintel]

I like to look at the uniswap fees

[whole monolith]

ah so if etherscan is showing about 35usd for uniswap I should have that 35usd in eth to pay the for the ETH to ILV right?

[charred knot]

give or take, it fluctuates so I would have some contingency

[lethal marsh]

Hello

Just arrived ready to study this project any tips where to start?

[sage falcon]

!read

[tidal garnet]

Some important sources of information that everyone interested in and/or new to Illuvium should take a careful look at are:

https://docs.illuvium.io/
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507

[twilit junco]

Also: #❓〕faq #791148036935516161 #🔗〕helpful-links 🙂

[dusty shard]

how much is needed to invest to get illuviums

[twilit junco]

!f2p

[tidal garnet]

You begin our game with a free-to-play experience that immerses you in our richly-detailed world, lets you enjoy some action, and helps you understand how the game works. The free-to-play experience of the Tier 0 regions will familiarize you with Illuvium, and won’t feel like an “abridged” version of the game. It is a full-fledged gameplay experience! If you like it, you can then decide to opt in to the paid experience, start collecting NFTs from higher tiered regions, and delve into deeper adventures to explore the mysteries of the game where the NFTs you gather start to hold more value as well.

Just after game launch, when everyone starts fresh, you might even be able to sell free Tier 0 NFTs on the IlluviDEX for ETH, but there is no guarantee for that.

[twilit junco]

!earn

[tidal garnet]

In Illuvium there will be several options to P2E:

• sell captured Illuvials
• sell farmed materials
• sell crafted items
• play the marketplace (buy low, sell high)
• wager on battles in the Leviathan Arena
• earn some of the 1 Million ILV set aside for in-game rewards
• …

BUT, while the game will be free to play, in order to participate in the earning part of the economy, a bit of money needs to be invested. A full cycle of travelling, curing shards, etc. is currently estimated to be around $50 (this can still change).

[dusty shard]

@twilit junco for this can i buy anything in advance to buy illuviums in the future ?

[twilit junco]

No. Zero Illuvials will be sold prior to release. Everyone starts fresh 🙂

[dusty shard]

So ILV is not the in game currency ?

[twilit junco]

No, ETH is.

!ILV

[tidal garnet]

ILV is not needed for gameplay in any way. Instead it has three main functions:

Governance:
Together, we have the power to shape the future of Illuvium through our community collaboration on game improvement proposals as well as electing the initial model of governance, the Illuvinati Council.

Liquidity Mining:
Here, you will gain more ILV (or sILV). Additional ILV will increase your voting power in governance & increase your share of vault distributions.

Vault Distributions:
When you stake ILV, you share in Illuvium's success and earn a passive income of additional ILV, funded through in-game purchases and fees. Vault distributions will only be available from sales and once the game and Illuvidex are launched.

For further details please read:
https://medium.com/illuvium/9-tokenomics-launchpad-and-reward-details-5894c3b356be
https://medium.com/illuvium/28-everything-you-need-to-know-about-staking-ilv-6669594b2fac
https://medium.com/illuvium/29-governance-yield-farming-and-vault-distribution-faq-7327ae7eb507

[weary spruce]

SILV or ETH

[twilit junco]

!silv

[tidal garnet]

sILV is a substitute currency that can be gained as yield when staking ILV. In game, it can be used to pay for any fee (excluding IlluviDEX trades and Leviathan Arena wagers) that otherwise would be paid for with the main currency ETH.

While claimed staking rewards in the form of ILV are locked for 12 months, sILV offers the opportunity to liquidate your staking rewards immediately. The tradeoff for that is that sILV only can be used in-game and does not provide compounding in any form.

[uncut condor]

Mozard is the best bot ever! \o/

[dusty shard]

Just wait a bit stormi just reading medium

[upbeat canopy]

ok...need help, watched a bunch of videos, looks amazing...how do I get started?

[sage falcon]

With the game or $ilv token and staking?

[upbeat canopy]

I have no clue, lol. Limited funds, no 50K to invest..more like 1K max

[sage falcon]

Check this out and be sure you watch the video at the end if you have any questions

!staking

[tidal garnet]

When holding ILV, staking is a way to gain additional rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution. The process for staking is the following:

• You acquire either some ILV or some Sushi LP tokens
• You go to: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
• You enter the right pool according to the tokens you acquired
• You decide whether to lock your deposit or not (if locked, you will receive more rewards from yield farming and revenue distribution, but you cannot withdraw your deposit until the chosen locking period is over)
• After approving the contract (if this is your first interaction with it) you confirm the staking of the desired tokens

You can find an in-depth video for staking here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6YugU4zZr4&t=1s

[upbeat canopy]

2K if I donate blood for a year

[novel slate]

buy coin stake coin hold on

[upbeat canopy]

So coin staking is smarter investment then game play?

[novel slate]

yeah earning rewards always good and you dont need slv in game

[upbeat canopy]

Ok, and if I also wanted to do game play...how do I get into that? Just buy ..Silv?

[sage falcon]

You can use sILV in game or ETH.

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Closed beta in late Q3 / early Q4
• Mystery auction before launch
• Open beta / launch on PC in late Q4
• Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

[sage falcon]

Until the game is out we have the staking ongoing.

[upbeat canopy]

Ohh...so currently can not buy characters, NFT's...just staking, or Silv?

[sage falcon]

Correct, the only NFTs that are available are the launchpad NFTs which don't do anything other than cosmetic.

[upbeat canopy]

So whats all the stuff on sale in Openseas?

[sage falcon]

https://opensea.io/collection/illuvium

[celest igloo]

if I buy an emote or badge nft on opensea and reddem it in game will I be able to resell on the in game market?

[upbeat canopy]

https://opensea.io/assets/0x4222b2a98daa443c6a0a761300d7d6bfd9161e52/11 like this?

[sage falcon]

Correct.

[novel slate]

its an emote

[upbeat canopy]

Ok, so the stuff on Openseas is just cosmetic stuff...not needed to get in

[novel slate]

unless you belive it will go up in price when game comes out

[upbeat canopy]

Rather put the limited money I have into staking, if I can still get into gameplay later without losing out on early promo stuff

Only been learning this NFT stuff for a week, sorry for all the questions, you guys have been a big help, ty.

[celest igloo]

Can you resell the nft emotes when you reddem them in game?

[novel slate]

no one time use

[novel slate]

no problem also kinda new but loving it lol

[fallow gale]

will illuvium run on mac 🙂 or whats the minimum spec requirements

[pseudo knot]

Is suhi lp stake is better than ILV?

[olive glacier]

Where can I see the roadmap of Illuvium project?

[stark inlet]

No spec requirements have been announced. They have said that Mac will be supported

[fallow gale]

https://tenor.com/view/letgo-lets-goooo-pickles-lets-go-excited-gif-13808708

[stark inlet]

Both have pros and cons. Read the pinned info in the Staking Channel.

[sage falcon]

Initial Prototype - November 2020 (Completed)

Transition to Unreal Engine - December 2020 (Completed)

Token Smart Contract - February 2021 (Completed)

First Cinematic Trailer - March 2021 (Completed)

Yield Farm Contracts V1 - May 2021 (Completed)

Auto Battler Trailer - August / September (In development)

Yield Farm Contracts V2 - September / October (In development)

Private Beta - October 2021 (In development)

Public Beta Launch - December 2021

Illuvium: Zero - December 2021 (To be ratified)

Mobile Release - 2022

Second Major Illuvium Title - 2023

Sales#
Pre Seed - December 2020 (Completed)

Seed Sale - January 2021 (Completed)

Balancer Liquidity Bootstrap Sale - March 2021 (Completed)

SushiSwap Liquidity Pool - April 2021 (Completed)

Yield Farming - May 2021 (Completed)

Illuvium: Zero Land Sale (To be ratified)```

You can also find more information here https://docs.illuvium.io/

[celest igloo]

!nft

[tidal garnet]

🚫 Mr. Plyer, you can't use that.

[celest igloo]

are you able to resell the nft emotes and badges on the in game marketplace after you redeem them in game??

[humble iris]

Very interested to see what the Yield Farm Contracts V2 will bring

[sage falcon]

!imx

[tidal garnet]

Illuvium uses Immutable X as a layer 2 solution. This means that you won’t be charged network gas fees within Illuvium and instead only need to transfer funds between the Ethereum Mainnet and Immutable X. This keeps the player's cost of doing business low, maximizing potential gain. For more information about Immutable X check out https://www.immutable.com/

[stark inlet]

I think they are burned once you claim them

[celest igloo]

@stark inlet so you cant resell anywhere at all?

[sage falcon]

!opensea

[tidal garnet]

Collectible Illuvium NFTs are already available on Opensea https://opensea.io/assets/illuvium All are limited edition. The emotes and m0z4rt skin NFT's are redeemable in game. Upon use, these NFT's will be burnt when applied in game. This is only true for these emotes, skins, and badges as they were bonuses for the initial ILV token sale.

There are also partner sets of very limited collectible NFT's. Those collectibles are not for in game use, this is so everyone has a fair and balanced start when the game is released. You can find out more here: https://illuvinati.gitbook.io/illuvium-archives/official-nfts

[stark inlet]

Not if you claim it. It's a badge of honor. A status symbol

[stark inlet]

If you buy one and don't claim it then you can resell if they go up in value as more owners claim theirs

[celest igloo]

nws cheers

[sage falcon]

Whats différence of core pool and flash pool?

[sage falcon]

!lp

[tidal garnet]

Providing liquidity for ILV is done via an ILV/ETH Pool on SushiSwap and requires a few different steps compared to staking only ILV. These steps are the following:

• You acquire a 50/50 ratio of both ILV and ETH (in $)
• You go to: https://app.sushi.com/add/ETH/0x767FE9EDC9E0dF98E07454847909b5E959D7ca0E
• After approving the contract (if this is your first interaction with it), you stake your 50/50 ratio of ETH and ILV in the pool
• You receive SLP tokens (To see them, add the SLP contract address to your wallet: 0x6a091a3406e0073c3cd6340122143009adac0eda)
• You go to: https://staking.illuvium.io/staking/core
• You can now stake your SLP Tokens in the Sushi LP pool just like ILV is staked in the ILV pool.

If you never provided LP before though, make sure to understand IL: https://academy.binance.com/en/articles/impermanent-loss-explained

[stark inlet]

Flash is only two weeks and ends. It's only to bring attention to Illuvium from other projects

[summer trellis]

Gameplay trailer when? I read middle august but not easy.

[twilit junco]

End of this month is still the latest estimation I am aware of 🙂

[wide smelt]

so i saw the video from the arena ( amazing graphics by the way 🙂 so what the gameplay is going to be like ? turn-based battle arena ? type of gameplay

[twilit junco]

!gameplay

[tidal garnet]

Illuvium is a collectible NFT RPG game and auto-battler rolled into one. There is an open-world RPG experience in the overworld, where you mine, harvest, capture, and fight Illuvials.

Once you have assembled your team you can join the fray in the autobattler where you strategically build your teams to beat your opponents in battle. The Illuvials possess unique stats, classes, and affinities. The synergy of your team—based on how you match their strengths and compensate for weaknesses—could mean a winning streak for you.

Additional information can be found here:
https://docs.illuvium.io/whitepaper/game-overview
https://medium.com/illuvium/illuvium-2-gameplay-2e418577fadb

[zenith fable]

Best for us to not rush them, they are close to finishing it. They just need some time to polish it off and the trailer will be 🚀

[twilit junco]

Also, you might wanna start by checking up on all the available info in #❓〕faq #791148036935516161 #🔗〕helpful-links 🙂

[sage falcon]

Thank you, and for the core pool, rewatd are in silv ou just in ilv?

[wide smelt]

Yeah im checking everything bit by bit there is a lot of information - thanks man

[stark inlet]

Turn based auto battler

[twilit junco]

!claim See message below. For anything else in regards to staking, please use #🥩〕staking thanks 🙂

[tidal garnet]

Rewards from staking have to be manually claimed and GAS fees for those transactions have to be paid:

• When you stake ILV yield farming rewards start piling up for you
• You claim those rewards whenever you deem the pile to be big enough to justify gas fees
• If you claim sILV you have it unlocked right away (sILV is only usable in game as a substitute currency for ETH outside the marketplace and the Leviathan Arena)
• If you claim ILV then that batch of ILV gets locked for 12 months and automatically staked in the ILV pool with a token weight of 2.0 for compounding effect
• New rewards start piling up....rinse and repeat

NB: ILV paid out as part of Illuvium’s Revenue Distribution have to be claimed as well but are not subject to a locking period.

[wide smelt]

Bot is definitely super helpful 😄

[stark inlet]

You can choose ilv or silv. You will find pinned info in the staking channel

[crimson heart]

Good day LIV family make that money

[stark inlet]

You mean ILV?

[civic mason]

Ok guys, I cant invest 5000$ into ILV until lunch. can we please not pump it between now and then? thanks! Haha

[stark inlet]

Ok. I promise. I can't promise what gas fees will be :)

[tranquil pebble]

I asked this question in #🎮〕illuvium-zero an hour or so ago but im not sure anyone is checking it so I'll post here. Does anyone know how lands will be traded after the initial sale? Are they NFTs which can be sold on OS?

[civic mason]

fuck ur right..... ill try and do it later tonight then when gas is usually lower

[stark inlet]

Yes but gas fees will be involved

[civic mason]

yes they can be resold like other NFT's

[tranquil pebble]

?

[crimson heart]

@stark inlet lol yeah I do lol

[tranquil pebble]

Ok perfect thanks! So lands will be NFTs then

[civic mason]

Yes, similar to Axe lands

[zenith fable]

Read that as launch and was like welp...

[civic mason]

haha by then id be fcked

[tranquil pebble]

who needs real estate when I can buy land in Illuvium and use the supplies to pay actual rent

[charred knot]

Hey guys, any one on the team caught sight of chainGuardians ? They have an NFT mining system - allowing NFT's of their partners to mine for rewards. A possible partnership could do some pretty awesome things. (Imagine being able to earn rewards on all your Illuvials while they are sat on opensea...)

[civic mason]

early in the day or late at night

https://ethereumprice.org/gas/ look here

[stark inlet]

Yep. Between midnight and 5am normally

[civic mason]

to save on gas u can just invest in ILV together, Stake that ILV and or Eth, and split the rewards if u trust one another

[sage falcon]

Makes sense, cheers.

[civic mason]

average per transaction ive seen as of late has been anywhere from 25$-100$ in gas. make sure to have some extra Eth to pay for gas when staking or buying ILV

[sage falcon]

Hello

[stark inlet]

Yep.

NP. It's complicated when you first start.

[civic mason]

Think about it like this, if you want to make any action with crypto you need to pay for the computations that go into that action. thus all changes of Eth from one location to another, from one crypto to another, from ur wallet to staking all require work to be done. i.e. gas

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/814318329430540298/879650265249226812/groomWip_12.jpg?width=1121&height=613 who knew they could make an ant eater look badass

[upbeat canopy]

Do i need to be signed into a crypto exchange to buy ILV, or can it be done directly from Metamask?

[civic mason]

if you can buy eth on your meta mask u can exchange eth for ILV on metamask!

[stark inlet]

MM linked to sushiswap

[upbeat canopy]

My gosh I am such a newb, I know...sorry, read so much stuff lately my heads spinning, lol.

[latent hazel]

Is the strongest shard going to guarantee for us to capture tier5 iluvians?

[civic mason]

but ya i use sushi with my meta mask like @stark inlet said

[stark inlet]

You two will have to decide than. Depends on lock time and if you need liquidity

[twilit junco]

To my knowledge there is no such thing as a 100% guarantee. Certainly not with a T5 Shard on a T5 Illuvial. Maybe a T5 shard on a T1 Illuvial is 100% capture rate, but I don't know. @rich terrace might be willing to clear that up 🙂

[sage falcon]

Okay cheers

[stark inlet]

If you're both long term and bullish on ILV and ETH then SLP could work

[civic mason]

The sushi pool comes with more risk due to impermanent loss. But with that higher risk comes a huge ROI. I invest in the sushi pool for my ILV. If you do so you need to remember that for the sushi pool you need half ILV and half Eth to enter. There are some videos I'd reccomend researching first. I'd start with researching impermanent loss for crypto @sage falcon .

[latent hazel]

If you think how ilv is going to outperform eth a lot better be on slv pool if you think how it's going to perform more or less the same like eth you can consider ilv/eth pool at the end you should do a research and to make that decision for yourself

[light knot]

Sending from a wallet to another is cheaper than buying on uniswap tho

[stark inlet]

Correct.

[latent hazel]

Lol I can see where I'm going to spend all my sILV😂

[light knot]

Or sushiswap in this case* 😅

[civic mason]

im spending all my sILV on land lol

[latent hazel]

I think how land is out of my reach but if it's under 5k who knows maybe I will take one tier1

[civic mason]

tier 1 land i dont see going for over 1 Eth. i'd guess to see some go for 1500$

[latent hazel]

I think how you are underestimating buying power of crypto people :)

[civic mason]

not really. player that grind will make more selling to the whales

[fallow seal]

um tamanduá

[strange wharf]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/778157357125206016.gif?v=1

[light knot]

I don't think tier 1 land will go for over 1.5k but if everyone jumps on it the gas war might make it more expensive 😅

[twilit junco]

This channel is a bit clogged with topics again that should be elsewhere to give new people and actual general ILV topics a chance to be seen in here, so:

Anything about ILV token, price, market cap, supply... => #💰〕token
Anything about land, land sale, mini-game... => #🎮〕illuvium-zero
Anything about LP vs ILV only staking, APY, Impermanent Loss... => #🥩〕staking

Thanks 🙂

[latent hazel]

Any estimation about shard prices?

[uncut condor]

$20 to cure

[lusty wind]

shard price will vary depending on the tier of the shard.

and im hoping that T5 shard will only be like 50$ 😄

[light knot]

Can shards (and other items if there are) be looted aswell or you can only catch illuvials? Also are shards also NFT's or those are ingame items going for same price during the entirity of the game?

[latent hazel]

I know I heard Kieran said something like 50$ will be minimum when you combine some basic things, I'm asking to we have any idea how much shard tier5 can cost

[uncut condor]

for now we know that travel allows us to catch illuvials and mine shards, shards will be NFT yes

[lusty wind]

shards can be sold for ETH in the marketplace.

[uncut condor]

I'd also like to know prices for each tier :/

[light knot]

So they can also vary in price but they can be obtained ingame aswell

[woeful socket]

we all would

[lusty wind]

so far no info's on shard prices so we can only speculate on such. sorry 😦

[uncut condor]

there have been talk it's $20 to cure, and travel is $10

[latent hazel]

Thanks that's what I was asking :)

[lusty wind]

yes those numbers are what we and the devs say that it might cost, but still it might change.

[latent hazel]

Than we can assume how basic shard is around 30$ if we need 50/60$ for one run

Is there limit how many shards can we have with one character?

[sage falcon]

There is Land on sale!? Where?

[quaint storm]

Not on sale yet. #🎮〕illuvium-zero is the dedicated channel for this - lots of info in the pins.

[uncut condor]

as I said yesterday, if most travels are worth and we can sell the rewards for $50, then I'm fine with the price

I'd rather do 1 worth travel that takes 1h for $50 than have to spend 10h doing 10 travels for $5 for the same reward

I guess they are still making tests and balancing, prices and even travel energy isn't yet defined and can also be changed after launch

[severe herald]

ilv is 500+ now

[sage falcon]

Hey all, bring reading alot about the project. I can see a load of PBP battle images, videos etc. Is there any photos or videos about the open RPG area and what that looks like?

[mint ridge]

Theres pictures and a trailer on the website. Gameplay trailer will be released very soon i think

[zenith fable]

Screenshot ?

[mint ridge]

Im sorry?

[zenith fable]

if you meant the cinematic trailer, that's been there for a while lol

[mint ridge]

Yeah i did

[zenith fable]

Yeah fair, i thought you meant there was some new material or something, all g :))

[dull jetty]

Have u guys seen this? Its the actual open rpg area.. just a few seconds but daaaaaaaaaamn

[uncut condor]

wait wot?

[sage falcon]

Doesn’t play for me

[dull jetty]

Yeah someone posted it on character leaks discussion fuckin blew my mind

[twilit junco]

That looks too fishy for me, sorry. Please link to the post in #🚰〕leaks then for others to check out.

[dull jetty]

Uh oh stormi typing im in trouble i guess

[left spire]

It did look pretty dodgy tbf!

[dull jetty]

Its not in character leaks tho.. man lemme get to my office and send u guys a screenshot its legit

[tribal tartan]

i saw that too, pretty sick

[dull jetty]

Cant believe they didnt post it on #🚰〕leaks

[twilit junco]

You are referring to pelican's post here? #💥〕leaks-discussion message

[dull jetty]

Yeah thats the one

[twilit junco]

That screen capture is from one of the live streams the team held on Twitch

[stone plinth]

yo , just bought some ilv and damn does it cost alot for staking

[abstract kestrel]

Keep in mind that if it's 30 dollars there might also be a time to cure and demand so it might be higher than that if ur buying off the marketplace at least

[humble wave]

At least you bought the dip lol.

[twilit junco]

Gwei is at over 80 right now. Wait for 30 and lower unless you want to stake big bags of ILV 🙂

[sage falcon]

or claim 😛

[stone plinth]

500 wasn't a dip

[humble wave]

Ah. Thought u bought now 😁

[stone plinth]

yeah few minutes after I bought it went down lmao idc bout that i'm staking for long term

[opaque rock]

What are the best pools available for staking ILV

[stone plinth]

any specific time for it to go down ? because I'm willing to pay half the price of ilv for gas fees since I alrd paid 130$ for the transaction

[twilit junco]

Right now is going up. Gotta keep an eye on it. Depends on network traffic

Weekends tend to be a bit better. Same is night/mornings for some people depending on where they live.

[stone plinth]

ight cool , thanks

[opaque rock]

The pool is called right now?

[civic mason]

the sushi staking pool is still at 600% apy correct? cant check it atm

[languid silo]

There is a vote up on Zapper,would be helpful if we reminded zapper in a polite way that it would be nice to get this added. https://features.zapper.fi/protocol-requests/p/illuvium-staking-protocol

[stone plinth]

629%

[civic mason]

thx

[opaque rock]

They have a pool on 1inch correct?

[civic mason]

i just invest in the core pools that can be found on the ILV website. not sure about 1inch

Also for the advertising campaign once the game is out i'd recommend buying YouTube, tiktok
, snapchat and other social media add space. It would feed directly into the targeted age group.

[stone plinth]

is it okay if I use low gwei and wait till gwei goes down for ilv staking transaction to go through or will it cause problems?

[humble wave]

peaple have been known to wait for days for the low gas to go through

[stark inlet]

Transaction could get stuck

[stone plinth]

even if gwei went down to the submitted amount

[stark inlet]

If it goes below your setpoint it won't. Could take hours or days depending on your setpoint

[wispy ginkgo]

I have done this, the transaction won't get stuck. You just may have to wait a while. You always have the option speed up the transaction if you can't stand the wait any longer.

[stone plinth]

I might use 45 gwei as it went to 40-50 as average for this month

[stark inlet]

That's a fair gwei.

[humble wave]

If you're not staking a huge chunk, even 45-50 sound unreasonable. I'd wait for the weekend. Last Sunday it was sub 20 Gwei

[stone plinth]

yeah I'm only doing 1ilv for the current time

[humble wave]

so you don't wanna stake $500 now and pay +$100 for the gas.

[neat sable]

Any new news in USA - Crypto?

[humble wave]

you mean #799010390201466880 right? 😄

[neat sable]

it's in relation with illuvium because it affect it but yeah it should be in #800565636178771988

[humble wave]

yeah but it's not DIRECTLY ILV material. better to keep it in the news. 🙂

[stone plinth]

then do you recommend doing the transaction with low gwei now and wait till it goes through or just wait

[humble wave]

I would wait. low Gwei is 103 now which is insane. Esp for 1 ILV. To me it doesn't make any sense, unless you have tons of ETH lying around you don't care about gas even a bit.

[stone plinth]

by low gwei I meant using 30-40 till it goes down

[humble wave]

well that's your choice really. No one can tell you what to do, but I still would wait for lower Gas and stake with Fast and Risen Gas Limit for the transaction to go through in seconds. (this is my way treating 1 ILV ofc)

[stone plinth]

Just found a website that notifies when gwei go down ill stick with it for now since I paid 90$ to get a single ilv which is 20% for the price of it

[stark inlet]

Gas sucks. Hopefully you make that back in a week or two

[twilit junco]

@shrewd dirge It obviously is not, so #✍〕rules 😉

[shrewd dirge]

❤️

[stone plinth]

week or a two isn't something I'm staking for a whole year and will use silv reward for the game

[stark inlet]

I just meant your 90 bucks. Once the token price goes up. Long term is best

[stone plinth]

yeah hopefully

[tawny sphinx]

How do I not get the welcome to illuvium popup every time I come back to discord app? >.<

[sage falcon]

Becker just shouted out ILV on crypto banter…NFT Pokémon. Exactly ILV is gonna be like crack strap in kiddies

[sage falcon]

Whoops sorry… not sure I never get that point up

[gilded solstice]

Hi guys I'm new here.

[twilit junco]

!welcome 🙂

[tidal garnet]

Welcome! Wondering where to get started and learn more? The #791148036935516161 section has all the information you need. From a brief overview to links that lead to highly detailed information. Also, be sure to check out these channels in the discord to stay up to date: #✍〕rules #announcements #❓〕faq #💧character-leak

[gilded solstice]

I heard ILLUVIUM are working on a NFT game. If so, any updates on the NFT sales ?

[twilit junco]

No Illuvials will be sold prior to release. But have fun checking out all the info provided via the message above. Also #❓〕faq and #🔗〕helpful-links 🙂

[gilded solstice]

thanks

is there a release date ?

[twilit junco]

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Closed beta in late Q3 / early Q4
• Mystery auction before launch
• Open beta / launch on PC in late Q4
• Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

[frank notch]

shoutout to @twilit junco Id lose my mind if I had to answer the same 10 questions 10000 times each and every day

[latent hazel]

Yes probably price can go higher than whatever is normal but supply from illuvium zero should help with that

[twilit junco]

Very much appreciated but I'd like to emphasize that the rest of the mods and many helpful community members are doing a great job as well when it comes to educating those with less knowledge here. I'm just one person trying to do my part 🙂

[civic mason]

Stormi, thoughts on the ILV team doing a live stream to hype up and drop the gameplay trailer?

[frank notch]

Of course! the entire ILV team deserves a huge round of applause... the amount of interaction from different Mods/Admins on a daily basis is incredible and one main factor of what seperates ILV from other discords and projects

[twilit junco]

Not sure if anything is planned on that front, but personally I'd much rather see them invest time on other things and just drop the video when it is done. It will create enough attention just by itself for sure 🙂

[vagrant inlet]

^ Agreed with this, very often stuff on demand works a lot better. The trailer will be shared around plenty if it delivers on the hype haha

[civic mason]

I mean taking an hour out of their time to do a livestream reveal of the trailer I think would not only unify the community for an event but hype up the showcase that much more! not to say their time isn't valuable this is my opinion. get like (E3 gameplay trailer vibes) @vagrant inlet @twilit junco

[frank notch]

Id rather they keep gameplay on the lockdown until the reveal... shock everyone with its beauty once released

[vagrant inlet]

Live content is always fun tho haha, I can't wait for all the YouTube & Twitch streams when the game goes live, going to be SO TENSE hunting those rare Illuvials

[civic mason]

I think you missunderstand. Im saying reveal the entire trailer in a live stream showcase event.

[frank notch]

I did misunderstand... yes ^ this would be dope

[civic mason]

No problem we are all just so hyped for this!

[mint ridge]

For real. Legend 🔥🙂

[honest meteor]

I’ve never been more hyped for a game this early before release

[acoustic urchin]

You're in good company

[twilit junco]

https://gfycat.com/gaseouswickedbufflehead

[mint ridge]

This will be my first nft so excited

[honest meteor]

Anyone have an idea of what the pc requirements will be? I have an old pc. Works for some games, but illuvium looks like it might push my computer over the edge.

[late quail]

Are we getting near to that most awaited trailer?? 🎉

[late quail]

They only says 1050ti, no detailed requirements yet

[honest meteor]

Been wanting to upgrade this thing, but the chip shortage is making it expensive

[twilit junco]

Still "End of this month" as estimate 🙂

[acoustic urchin]

Every moment that passes is a moment closer 😅

[late quail]

Time so slow when we are getting near hahaha

[acoustic urchin]

Just curious, knowing what most of us know as of now for game play, how will you play Illuvium? Pure Catcher? Resource Farmer? Market flipper? PvP Focused?

[late quail]

I think i will focus on catching and levelling illuvials as much as i can. Cause that way i can sell T1 illuvial then go to higher tier and so on. Maybe easy to say but hard to get done hahaha

[quaint storm]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-collection-robot-gif-12434608

[acoustic urchin]

Yeah I hear ya! I think I'm in a similar boat, I want to use T-0 to learn the workings of the game then pay the fees to go to other zones and catch all I can. Looking to build up a strong team for PvP and take extras I have to use for market opportunities.

[late quail]

Yea i think i will solidify first a team then try to capture illuvials and level it then if profit allows i will enter pvp haha

[acoustic urchin]

I hear that! Also considering how beautiful this game is, might just wander around and explore 😅🤩

[jaunty vortex]

what can you already do in the game/discord?

[late quail]

Yeah that too. Explore the regions and its art

[acoustic urchin]

We get jet packs and mag boots too, explore everything 👌🤩

[late quail]

As of now just staking

[jaunty vortex]

kay

[acoustic urchin]

Game comes out at the end of the year, a game play trailer is dropping any day now

[jaunty vortex]

thx

[wide smelt]

everything in crypto moves too quickly 🙂 axie alo grew too quickly too fast they had issues with scaling 😄 i think building games is an ultra stressful enrivonment

[obsidian cloud]

It would be nice if you can earn a few hundred per month as full time player \O/

[wide smelt]

but building games for crypto degens ? 😄 that is taking things to another level

[honest meteor]

For sure, that pop kind of messed up the economy too. Too many people came in too quick, now oversupply in the market for axies

[civic mason]

Thinking way too small. IMO people will make full time job wages playing this game

[bitter dawn]

Any news one the nft giveaway from reacting to the leaks ?

[acoustic urchin]

One good day could change a life

[jaunty vortex]

xD

[obsidian cloud]

Would be even better xD

[sage falcon]

It will be shocking the amount of money to be made in the game…assets gonna be worth way more than ppl think IMO anyways

Gaming nft about to explode

[acoustic urchin]

If my no life wow experience has taught me anything, first 30 days the money is in resources people use to play. I wow it was crafting, potions ect

[civic mason]

i agree and basic items that are needed for full gameplay experience.

[wide smelt]

building the game and the experience is the key though - it has to be fun to play so people want to grind the game as well

[acoustic urchin]

Oh have you see the sneak peek?!

[sage falcon]

Good tip makes sense

[wide smelt]

Yeah 🙂 of course graphically there is nothing quite like Illivium

[upper bough]

I can’t find a release day anyway.. has that been announced yet??

[acoustic urchin]

Ah I meant the game play sneak peek once sec

[quick spindle]

Open Beta/Game Launch in Q4 towards the end of this year 🙂

[wide smelt]

i hope they can create the blizzard story into it and there we go 😄 maybe try to catch some people from blizzard? many people left appearently

[upper bough]

Kk thanks 🙏🏽

[wide smelt]

yeah i saw the arena gameplay on twitter

[acoustic urchin]

Oh no my sweet summer child, @twilit junco happen to have the link pelican shared from twitch stream?

[wide smelt]

that's not what you've meant?

[acoustic urchin]

Lol and ban hammer ⚒️

[humble wave]

@twilit junco ban?

[late quail]

Here it come

[acoustic urchin]

It's not there's another, I'll try to track it down

[wide smelt]

Sounds good 😄

[late quail]

Who here find our bot @tidal garnet cool? I want to use the commands but im no mod :( hahaha anyway just happy to help and contribute to the illuvium community in a small ways

[acoustic urchin]

Footage from twitch shared by pelican

[wide smelt]

Nice 😄

Can't wait for the game but i think it's super early everyone needs to take a patience pill

[late quail]

Oh no i wish my pc can handle this hahaha

[acoustic urchin]

Oh I fully understand the situation and work that goes in.

[twilit junco]

What was it?

[late quail]

Was deleted already, a PVU discord invite

[humble wave]

An invitation. Thought you banned it

[twilit junco]

No, this was Moz4rt on it's own 🙂 But joining our discord and doing nothing but throwing fishy links or invites into a channel still get's you a ban, so

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[wide smelt]

ive played axxies but im RPG guy so im definitely waiting for that one - man if only play-to-earn was available when i've played diablo2 or diablo3

[sage falcon]

Screw patience we going to Pluto

[civic mason]

Can't wait to buy this juicy dip later tonight UwU

[acoustic urchin]

Right?? WoW trained me for this 😅

[wide smelt]

yeah i meant in regards to the game development - good games take time etc

[fierce vine]

Baal runs with p2e means I would have dropped out of high school

Well fuck I think I was in junior high lol.

[obtuse patrol]

Yo you too? Lol. Wait i may have been in like middle school actually.

[obsidian cloud]

My way to become a whale xD

[civic mason]

https://tenor.com/view/another-thor-chrishemsworth-gif-4736083 Ill buy this nice ILV dip thanks bois\

[fierce vine]

Yeah my brother and I used to sneak to our basement and play Diablo 2 til 1am when my parents were asleep lol

Or sometimes we’d be reasonable and play til midnight, watch dbz then go to sleep.

[dense crane]

Yoooo

[obtuse patrol]

D2 was such a good game way back. Although tbh I spent a lot of time on hero editor. Loved those hacked duels lol

[fierce vine]

Closed multiplayer only for me lol. If the DAO decides to make a dungeon crawler with d2 inspiration in the future I’d probably shit my pants.

[obtuse patrol]

I'd be all for it. The only issue would be using D2 as inspiration while not being anything like D2 because it really hasn't aged well

[wide smelt]

hehe exactly. who hasn't 😄 I mean if Illivium can somewhat re-create that kind of experience so people will spent countless hours on it.

[fierce vine]

You shut your filthy mouth. D2 is beautiful. I just mean I like that demon/hell type story.

[wide smelt]

yeah can't wait for D4 but that's probably another few years

[fierce vine]

Let’s hope we can do it! I have confidence in my peers they all kick ass.

[obsidian cloud]

Btw what will happen, when DAO release other Games, will they still use the ILV Token?

[fierce vine]

Soon tm

[fierce vine]

That’s the plan

[stark inlet]

No game will use ILV.

[woeful shard]

is there any info about when the game is gonna be released or am i being retarded rn?

[wide smelt]

😄

[obsidian cloud]

Yeah, i know just translated IT wrong.

[stark inlet]

All games in ecosystem will pay RevDis to ILV stakers

[fierce vine]

Thanks for clarifying @stark inlet

[obsidian cloud]

Thats what i wanted to know xD

[stark inlet]

Open Beta Q4 or Q1 2022

[woeful shard]

aight ty

[sage falcon]

Info on closed beta in #795444126421483520

[stark inlet]

Yep. Gas fees are crazy atm

[sage falcon]

Yeah gas is high

[wide smelt]

still not that crazy as in february 😄

[obtuse patrol]

Oh I agree. I mostly mean the mechanics and graphics just haven't held up very well. The story is amazing.

[wide smelt]

i remember paying 400usd for a trade on uniswap on some IDOs but yeah it's crypto

[obsidian cloud]

And ETH dropes the whole day

[stark inlet]

Luckily we are in a slight dip. Should even out the loss

[wide smelt]

i usually do transfers in the morning 5:00am UTC it's really nice and low ( i wake up this early 😄 )

Having a kid has it's perks

[acoustic urchin]

I feel this 😅, I got 2 under 2

[winged gazelle]

when do the CHAMP nFTS come out?

for purchase???

[twilit junco]

No Illuvials will be sold prior to release. Everyone starts fresh 🙂

[winged gazelle]

is there a limit to how many illuvials there will be?

[twilit junco]

There will be ~150 uniquely crafted Illuvials but obviously multiple copies of those will exist. Illuvials are on a bonding curve which means that with every copy someone captures of a particular Illuvial it will get harder to capture another copy for everyone until eventually a set is retired and replaced by a new one 🙂

[wide smelt]

Nice

[winged gazelle]

OH OK thank yo

[wide smelt]

Who doesnt love bonding curves

[twilit junco]

https://tenor.com/view/bane-no-banned-and-you-are-explode-gif-16047504

[zenith fable]

This is one question i had in mind

Do you know if this curve also takes into account the number of players? Like how will it work if launch has 100k vs 1 million players as an example

[hexed gulch]

Is there a way to play an early version right now?

[twilit junco]

I don't know the exact calculation but I'd imagine that player count somehow is included or at least considered 🙂

[twilit junco]

!timeline No 🙂

[tidal garnet]

• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Closed beta in late Q3 / early Q4
• Mystery auction before launch
• Open beta / launch on PC in late Q4
• Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

[winged gazelle]

also stupid question: how much are like the illuvial champs(im assuming its like a random egg or something you open) or are there teirs

[twilit junco]

!gameplay

[tidal garnet]

Illuvium is a collectible NFT RPG game and auto-battler rolled into one. There is an open-world RPG experience in the overworld, where you mine, harvest, capture, and fight Illuvials.

Once you have assembled your team you can join the fray in the autobattler where you strategically build your teams to beat your opponents in battle. The Illuvials possess unique stats, classes, and affinities. The synergy of your team—based on how you match their strengths and compensate for weaknesses—could mean a winning streak for you.

Additional information can be found here:
https://docs.illuvium.io/whitepaper/game-overview
https://medium.com/illuvium/illuvium-2-gameplay-2e418577fadb

[winged gazelle]

ok mystery auction before launch for all players so they can put as much as they want for a chance at random monsters

[twilit junco]

No, again: ZERO Illuvials will be sold before release. Mystery auction will have not be about Illuvials.

Also, since your questions show very little knowledge of the fundamentals, you should start by checking out #❓〕faq #791148036935516161 #🚰〕leaks #🔗〕helpful-links and the resources linked in there. Then come back with questions 🙂

[hazy beacon]

are all 150 illuvials going to be available to catch at launch, and then sets are released for future illuvials, or are there only ever 150 illuvials that are to be released slowly in sets.

[twilit junco]

#💬〕general message 🙂

[hazy beacon]

thanks!!

[wide smelt]

Any ETA when the form for the beta testing should come?

[twilit junco]

No 🙂

https://tenor.com/view/yoda-patience-you-must-have-patience-gif-15254127

[wide smelt]

I can imagine there will be a demand

[humble wave]

A demand? 😄 I believe thousands have applied

[twilit junco]

Doesn't really matter. In the end the team selects who and how many testers they want and the rest will have to remain patient for open beta (=launch) 🙂

Closed beta is meant for actual testing, proper balancing. Not for people to get in early to check out the game.

[sage falcon]

Do you think the team is looking mostly for people with previous beta testing experience?

[twilit junco]

I'm pretty sure they will be looking for a large variety of testers to ensure different viewpoints and approaches to testing.

[wide smelt]

Naturally :)

[sage falcon]

Good! Gives me hope I’ll make it.

[humble wave]

Close to 83k members. gotta make it to 90k EoM. Let's go

[twilit junco]

https://tenor.com/view/wow-omg-surprised-scared-kid-gif-10714204

[rocky whale]

Hey guys! This is day one for me in this chat. How’s everyone doing?

[wide smelt]

True considering the game isnt live yet thats very good 🔥

[humble wave]

Hey bro. Welcome. chilling, chating, chanting 😄

[wide smelt]

Axie 100k online

[humble wave]

https://tenor.com/view/well-be-there-soon-duke-gung-ho-trip-wire-alpine-gif-17522654

[zenith fable]

Wait until the gameplay trailer drops..

[rocky whale]

Chanting is always good. 😆 looking forward to learning all about you guys. 💪 everything I’ve read so far looks & sounds amazing.

What’re you guys doing to prep for the game? Liquidity pools?

[wide smelt]

https://tenor.com/view/explosion-boom-iron-man-gif-14282225

[humble wave]

everything we can. Helping others, providing Liquidity, staking, gaining 10k members weekly, AND preparing to have out minds blown with the new Gameplay EoM

[zenith fable]

Stop it arash, ur gonna make me put all my liquidity locked away 😩

[humble wave]

https://tenor.com/view/go-do-it-yes-no-go-for-it-gif-17183104

[civic mason]

Arash im already planning to lock away 5k tonight dont make me put in more

[rocky whale]

Haha that sounds solid. Will have to follow your guys lead to ensure I’m ready too. No release date has been put out correct?

[civic mason]

End of year is target release , Q4

[quick spindle]

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Closed beta in late Q3 / early Q4
• Mystery auction before launch
• Open beta / launch on PC in late Q4
• Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

[humble wave]

https://tenor.com/view/yes-you-should-tracy-jordan-30rock-definitely-go-for-it-gif-21894208

[rocky whale]

Thanks guys!! I appreciate the help. 💯💪🙌🏽🙏🏽

[humble wave]

NFA though lol

[civic mason]

nah too late its already my FA

[quick spindle]

We recently had a ton of discussion in the community about a potential mini game which could be played on mobile devices when you're not exploring the overworld in the main Illuvium game on PC. A proposal was put forth/approved and now Illuvium: Zero is beginning development too: #📰〕governance-news message

If you're into city building games, there will be a land sale for Illuvium: Zero as well coming up in about 9 weeks if all goes according to plan. So keeping some ETH for that could be beneficial. Check out the pins in #🎮〕illuvium-zero if you're interested

[humble wave]

Car depreciates....ILV appreciates

[rocky whale]

Damn that’s 🔥 🔥. Ty for the info.

[thorn plover]

PSA
This is the dip

[zenith storm]

do it

[languid silo]

Also worth following these two, have some great insights.

https://youtu.be/Gm6vZT92aAI

[past owl]

What’s a good way to tell my financial advisors that I want to pause putting money in my retirement and put it into ILV instead? 🤔

[hard trellis]

Your fired. lol

[sonic solar]

can you use the NFTs that you buy opensea in the game when its released?

[thorn plover]

Short answer "no" but sort of

The badges will be used for a cosmetic that shows you are an OG

The emotes will be use for well.... In game emotes to flex during pvp

Mozart skins are cosmetics for your robot friend

All of the NFTs from the balancer sale are currently burned on use and can't be resold if you redeem them in the game

And the rest are just promotion NFTs
No in game use.

Future NFTs will be usable in game and NOT burned on use
( unless you are fusing Illuvials)
@sonic solar

[civic mason]

HAHA $469.... If anyone is waiting for an entry price this is it NFA lmao

[sharp glacier]

sry i am waiting for 420.69

[zenith fable]

Enter now or try and jump aboard when are going into a different galaxy 🚀

[neon garnet]

When isthe game gonna release?

[humble wave]

It's 470 now. also price in #💰〕token or it will start a chain reaction here that will be difficult to steer 🙂

[humble wave]

!timeline

[tidal garnet]

• Gameplay trailer coming soon
• Closed beta in late Q3 / early Q4
• Mystery auction before launch
• Open beta / launch on PC in late Q4
• Mobile launch in 2022

Ongoing: Hiring of new Core Contributors, Influencer Partnerships and more

[neon garnet]

What does Q3/Q4 mean?

[humble wave]

Q3 (July - August - September) and Q4 (October - November - December)

[neon garnet]

Thanks

[craggy isle]

Where do you buy $ILV

[flat vigil]

whats happening to illuvium price O.o

[wraith ridge]

If your in a flash staking pool, are you able to unstake when you want or only after the two weeks is up?

[twilit junco]

!buy 🙂

[tidal garnet]

We recommend buying ILV on the main DEX here: https://app.sushi.com/swap?inputCurrency=ETH&outputCurrency=0x767fe9edc9e0df98e07454847909b5e959d7ca0e
After acquiring your ILV, make sure to add the ILV token to your wallet. You can find the contract address at https://www.coingecko.com/en/coins/illuvium and in the case of MetaMask, you can just click on the Fox next to the contract address to add the token.

In case you don’t want to use SushiSwap, ILV can also be found on the following CEX's:

• Gate.io (non US residents) https://www.gate.io/trade/ILV_USDT
• Bitcoin.com

Here is a video that goes into detail how to buy ILV and stake it afterwards: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6YugU4zZr4

[fallow gale]

Whole market is dipping chill

[civic mason]

Do we know when the Land vote is taking place???

[flat vigil]

I am chill?

[twilit junco]

It went down because Ethereum went down. Nothing crazy happening. All good. For more about token price, please use #💰〕token thanks 🙂

[wraith ridge]

If your in a flash staking pool, are you able to unstake when you want or only after the two weeks is up?

[zenith fable]

You can unstake when you want, you can ask more questions or discuss it in #🥩〕staking if you wish to further

[wraith ridge]

Thanks

[zenith fable]

Can't wait for the strategy channel to come out when the game drops lol, gonna be a bunch of sweats in there discussing strats

[dull jetty]

Need Ep 2 like RIGHT NOW

[sonic solar]

I see. what is balancer sale? Is this the opensea nft listings?

[civic mason]

i know this is an ILV chat and i love it but has any1 seen AMC and GME stock today???

[stark inlet]

Nope. We only care about ILV

[sonic solar]

if i buy an emote/badge from opensea, can i use it in the game and then later on sell it on opensea again or do i sell via the marketplace

[acoustic urchin]

Oh lawd

[stark inlet]

Nope. Once it is claimed it's burned

[flat vigil]

There were some gameplay supposed to be releasing this or next week right?

[thorn plover]

Currently no. Any of those pictured above will be burned on use in game and cannot be resold.
If you buy it and don't use it you can resell.

[sonic solar]

oh okay gotcha!

thank you guys! thinking of getting myself some NFTs yo! Can't wait for the game release

[uncut condor]

how many illuvials max will we have in our party? 😄

[acoustic urchin]

Battle or storage?

[uncut condor]

battle

[acoustic urchin]

I believe I read somewhere it was 7, but I could be wrong.

[thorn plover]

Has there been info on storage? I have not heard

[acoustic urchin]

Not that I've seen which is why I asked deeper, hoping for someone to clarify both

[thorn plover]

Yeah I've been curious as well.
And is the storage accessible during a loop/travel?
These are the important questions :P

[flat vigil]

what was supposed to come out now in the end of august?

[thorn plover]

Probably gameplay trailer and a partnership promotion(giveaway) of some kind

[fickle fable]

so someone help me out

wtf is this

[thorn plover]

Go to #❓〕faq and #🔗〕helpful-links

Read at least the whitepaper please.
Any further questions and we will be happy to answer!

https://docs.illuvium.io/

[sonic solar]

will there be ingame NFTs that we can trade in the marketplace?

[mint ridge]

When we travel. Do we have to fight and win in order to capture the illuvials? Then level them up elsewhere

[thorn plover]

Yes
https://medium.com/illuvium/illuvium-2-gameplay-2e418577fadb

[mint ridge]

Perfect thanks 🙂

[acoustic urchin]

Essentially the backbone of the game 💛

[slender terrace]

Hello all, will there be any mechanism to rent or any other ways to benefit from the Illuvium assets you own?

^ ( more passively )

[fallow wadi]

you mean like scholarships?

[civic mason]

I mean you could just buy and own land. selling the resources generated as passive income.

[slender terrace]

@fallow wadi yes @civic mason got it thanks!

[azure lichen]

Great way to ask for help…

[zenith fable]

Manners get you far in life, you get the help of very smart people :)) In this chat anyways 😉

[azure lichen]

[novel rapids]

https://tenor.com/view/sweating-nervous-paranoid-gif-4974019

pov: you own eth

feels like this game is gonna be pokemon go

[civic mason]

seems like ETH has broke its downward trend. I expect to see it rebound later in the week or tom.

^ well nvm im lying idk shit.

[novel rapids]

😂

[azure lichen]

Lol were you looking at the 15m chart

[unique portal]

hey how long is FTX KYC

[somber shard]

hi im new, whats good?

[full dome]

!welcome

[tidal garnet]

Welcome! Wondering where to get started and learn more? The #791148036935516161 section has all the information you need. From a brief overview to links that lead to highly detailed information. Also, be sure to check out these channels in the discord to stay up to date: #✍〕rules #announcements #❓〕faq #💧character-leak

[somber shard]

thank you:))

[mint ridge]

Man i cant wait for the launch

[elder adder]

yo this token is giving me hella money

[civic mason]

are you also staking on sushi?

[past owl]

Anyone know if it’s possible to hold and stake ILV from a Ledger wallet?

[tardy adder]

how so?

[sage falcon]

Should we all tweet binance and push this listing? Last piece of puzzle

[sage falcon]

Should be as it’s an erc 20, I am using trezor

[solar drum]

When is this launching?

[past owl]

I’m assuming I need to somehow manually add the token to my wallet? I’d prefer to have my ILV on there instead of my metamask

[latent gull]

end of year into 2022

[twin venture]

It's says Q3 launch on their Twitter 🤷‍♂️

[full dome]

#❓〕faq

[latent hazel]

Maybe stupid question but once when we have public beta that's the start when we will play for real money?

[fallow wadi]

i believe so

[bitter jolt]

Quick question was wondering if anyone could help, I’m new to NFTs on Oceansea question 1 if I wrap my eth can I unwrap it. Q2 when a new NFT comes into the market and is being sold at a certain time do you leave an offer to get the NFT or do you wait till the time and press buy?

Opensea*

[fallen rover]

Does that mean the closed beta could be fairly soon?

[full dome]

no word yet

[bleak forge]

Where my cardano fam at?

[civic mason]

closed beta will probably be November or October. But only like 50-150 people will be playing it and they will need extensive experience in many fields to even be qualified.

[sage falcon]

Sure is!

[sage falcon]

You go on to your account, go to your eth section, press add token, start writing in illuvium and it will show up

[spare river]

Yes you can wrap and unwrap through something such as uniswap. But there is a contract fee of like 3-5$. Not sure on your question 2… you mean like someone is selling something and there is a countdown timer on the sell?

[sage falcon]

Did we make it??

[bitter jolt]

Yeah

So someone is selling an NFT at 11 and I’m seeing offers at the bottom but the website says it released at 11 for 0.222eth

[bitter jolt]

any clue?

[past owl]

Awesome, thank you!

[civic mason]

I'm Just saying this is one of the most beautiful virtual landscapes I have ever seen...

[obtuse patrol]

tell me about it man. I'm so excited to be able to play and walk around in those beautiful areas. Hopefully it's not a let down. HOPE the gameplay trailer will show the overworld, and make me cry.

[dusty shard]

How much eth is needed for a good team

[obtuse patrol]

the game isn't out for another few months, tell me how in the blue hell would we know what a good team would even be? lol.

[pliant root]

lol

[full dome]

0-∞

[civic mason]

Depends on how quick you want it and how much you plan to grind. Technically you could pay 0 with a ton of grinding for a few weeks. or u pay others that have done the grinding...