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near pier
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maybe hes in shock

young bone
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gm

simple patrol
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I know your lurking @ember copper . Come say hi

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😔 he must be sleeping.

lusty mantle
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What a slacker

gentle thorn
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It's Monday. The beginning of a new month. In order to achieve results and not to degrade, we must improve our achievements every month, every week, and every day. So let's warm up and go to the stars!

jaunty mica
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Is the scholarship available here?

lusty mantle
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Not at the moment

steady atlas
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looking forward! 💪

lucid nebula
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GM, is the pool ILV/ETH still live ?
@lusty mantle

lucid nebula
# lusty mantle Yes

Thank you, it seems like my “claimable” reward is not increasing for a while now

jolly kestrel
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hi

karmic sonnet
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Hi guys, im new here
is there a game release date?

karmic sonnet
thick jasper
karmic sonnet
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kk thx!

sage falcon
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There's a dude in here called @lusty citrus need I say more

sage falcon
lusty mantle
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Just ignore Crystal

sage falcon
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Oh yeah did you see this?

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If its alts we're banning....

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Just saying

lusty mantle
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As usual I have no idea what you are saying

sage falcon
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Go search it

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It was yesterday

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Or day before

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Fucking maniac stalker

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That's supposed to be my job

lusty mantle
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Watch your language and stay respectful

sage falcon
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Go search it, see what you think

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I'm literally handing you an alt account on a platter

lusty mantle
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That's @near pier his job

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I just take blame

sage falcon
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Oh is it now

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Well anyway, it was lots of laughs

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Yaint in Voice

lusty mantle
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I know

sage falcon
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#rules

thick jasper
sage falcon
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"Have fun"

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Fraggy has been breaking this rule for weeks

lusty mantle
sage falcon
lusty mantle
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If I would make a list with reasons to quit modding, you would be the first reason.

sage falcon
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OH SHIT

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Booyaka$ha

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What would you put?

near pier
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I thought I would be #1

lusty mantle
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You are #0

thick jasper
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Give me a good number please 😁

lusty mantle
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You are on the list with reasons to stay

thick jasper
alpine trout
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Good morning peeps

sage falcon
outer hull
sage falcon
outer hull
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wen ban

sage falcon
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You?

outer hull
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yes

sage falcon
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Wen 6

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Wen something to see here

outer hull
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never

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delayed forever

sage falcon
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I have re wroted the dictionary

outer hull
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crystal - the wise

sage falcon
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SoonTM can now be discarded

outer hull
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thanks, that word gives me ptsd

sage falcon
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Same

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It is a Field of Broken promises

outer hull
sage falcon
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No but seriously

outer hull
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uff

sage falcon
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What's the bet that this list actually does exist

lusty mantle
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It doesn't

outer hull
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would make

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you dont understand english

sage falcon
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No backpedaling now

outer hull
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m8

sage falcon
outer hull
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isnt would conditional

sage falcon
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Yeah, but think about it, it's like when a criminal says "suppose hypothetically I did kill him..."

outer hull
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are you calling him a criminal?

sage falcon
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No

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Are you

outer hull
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no

sage falcon
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Then wot

outer hull
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wut

sage falcon
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Kieran doesn't like my videos

normal python
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Wait...who killed someone?

sage falcon
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I used the word "Gunt" when describing the girl who just got arrested for tax fraud

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extracting my first hyperion

normal python
outer hull
sage falcon
outer hull
dusky timber
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Hi! I played both WOW and ILV overworld. Is ILV MMO TYPE overworld achievable within the next 3 years? What do you guys think?

outer hull
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no

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we dont even have pvp yet

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and mmo is the most complex type of game. I wouldnt count on that in 3 years

dusky timber
outer hull
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mmos take a loooot of time

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even with big studios

dusky timber
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That must be the reason why mirandus of gala is far from ready.

outer hull
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even with worse than minecraft graphics

normal python
dusky timber
outer hull
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balancing, quests, classes, pvp, pve, raids, etc etc. lots of things on mmos

outer hull
dusky timber
outer hull
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wow

dusky timber
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Damn! That's why!

outer hull
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and on top of that, add the blockchain transactions

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i dont think mmo will be a game target for ilv for a long time

dusky timber
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That's why I highly recommend enymy NPCs inside ow.

thin elbow
# dusky timber

Don't think thats correct... They say total cost to Run wow is arround 4m a month.

late crystal
wicked helm
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hello

simple patrol
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Gn Fraggy.

lusty mantle
sage falcon
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Gm fraggy

outer hull
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ga crystal

fluid leaf
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Thanks to all of us and to the Illuvium team I hope they're getting some free good time today

fluid leaf
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rights

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escape pod is tonight midnight or tomorrow midnight?

lusty mantle
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In 11,5h

fluid leaf
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nice

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will you be there?

lusty mantle
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No

fluid leaf
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y

thick jasper
fluid leaf
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I think it's all over the world or some parts

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We have holiday too in Portugal

dense grove
lusty mantle
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How lucky, an extra day to get robbed 🤣

dense grove
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Our overlords can be so generous.

normal python
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We've got a holiday today here in the UK. Apparently some old man is putting a hat on. Don't know too much about it tbh

normal python
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...I think

lusty mantle
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lol

timid kayak
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hello guys to give my vote in the council I have seen that I need to stake $illvium, what is the minimum? thank you

narrow jetty
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wrong channel fraggy?

lusty mantle
narrow jetty
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whats the right one?

lusty mantle
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He made his post in governance channels like the others running for council

thick jasper
zinc notch
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hello

timid kayak
native hemlock
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where can I get a code for beta

rich terrace
native hemlock
narrow vigilBOT
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Beta Access

You can register for the closed beta through this link: https://play.illuvium.io/arena

You can increase your chances of being selected for the closed beta of Illuvium by following these steps:

  1. Achieve the <@&870923789985271828> (Level 5) status in the server
  2. Get the <@&969492770102341634> role in #1038034977864032276 and promote Illuvium
  3. Participate in and win the weekly trivia competition
  4. Obtain the <@&1059575774589485116> role from Collab.land
ripe geode
native hemlock
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hahahahahha

ripe geode
keen oar
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When is the game expected to launch?

ripe geode
native hemlock
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will try

ripe geode
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1. Name at least one Illuvial and tell us whats his favorite meal (be crative, there is no wrong answer, i'm just hungry ^^ )

native hemlock
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oh gif is disabled

ripe geode
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now i am even more hungry so we gonna speed up here xD

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go to #1038034977864032276 and get twitter-raider role (this will allow @lusty mantle make his magic)

lusty mantle
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🪄

native hemlock
ripe geode
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**2. Who is Fraggy 🤷 (creative answers only) **

lusty mantle
native hemlock
ripe geode
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**3. Do you think Fraggy would like empandas? If yes, why? If no... why? 🤷 **

lusty mantle
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Jezus dzierski, go eat something

ripe geode
native hemlock
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they like fried rice better tho

ripe geode
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now i go eat Atlas_Yeah

lusty mantle
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😅

native hemlock
thin elbow
opal onyx
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What are the odds of getting a ramphyre in a mega D1sk?

vale nimbus
frail raft
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wow i cut it close, got a blueprint today woot

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anyone gotten a blueprint higher than green rarity?

warm lantern
lusty mantle
warm lantern
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chill as usual

near pier
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Gm

near pier
storm rain
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@severe pumice we miss u buddy

near pier
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Where is he

storm rain
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oh mai

lusty mantle
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oh mai

near pier
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Oh Mai he change it

storm rain
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mayb mayb

gilded path
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did yall check drury lane?

lusty mantle
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lol

valid tangle
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Hey guys, was the sign in problem support section deleted?

lusty mantle
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No

alpine trout
warm lantern
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somali pirates comming monkaShake

thick jasper
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funny

warm lantern
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are you twins?

alpine trout
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great minds think alike

thick jasper
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crazy. was the same time we send it 😄

thick jasper
alpine trout
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Bring back faydel

fathom quarry
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Good morning family

viral notch
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👀 👀

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gm

narrow vigilBOT
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Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

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Support is not provided via DMs

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ripe geode
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Illuvium havent released any apps on play store so please dont install any apps saying its from Illuvium and if you have time please reaport it in #🚨❗〕report-scammers so maybe Team can try to block it

obtuse panther
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I just wanna be the very best.

untold tree
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If im a beta tester can i play then later also Overworld ?

ripe geode
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and if you mean future updates, then yes, you will have access to them as well

untold tree
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I just played overworld

ripe geode
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Zero is locked for Land Owners for now, so you would have to buy a Land.

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in the future there will be free version of Zero, but not yet

untold tree
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Okay so for now i can only play arena and overworld i like it...

But with the free version you dont earn something i gues ?

ripe geode
minor dock
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React with 🙂 if you think @lusty mantle is a pusboi

untold tree
ripe geode
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(you also can buy existing lands on secondary market if you want to own one)

minor dock
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React with a Atlas_Wow if you think @minor dock is a pusboi

untold tree
untold tree
minor dock
untold tree
ripe geode
untold tree
simple patrol
zealous lark
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Hello, sorry for asking. What is the name of the buildings when we build on land cannot be speed up with the coin?

zealous lark
sage falcon
zealous lark
sage falcon
simple patrol
zealous lark
zealous lark
zealous lark
zealous lark
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Okay sir

sage falcon
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gonna try to scoop a mega disk after work

toxic lintel
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Wen

devout oyster
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Hi all! how long it takes for you guys to move funds from L2 to L1? from Immutable X -> L1?

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I've been waiting for funds since Saturday...

thick jasper
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Should be looking like this now

devout oyster
thick jasper
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ImmutableX marketplace on the top right

near pier
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Little bit of bad news @languid silo

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They destroyed Andrews computer in shipping

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rekt

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but there is a light at the end of the tunnel

near pier
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His new computer arrives Thursday/Friday and he said it should be setup by the weekend for showcase next week

devout oyster
sage falcon
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showcase?

thick jasper
ripe geode
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👀

near pier
thick jasper
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Ok guys good nighthandWave

near pier
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$tip @sleek wind 1 ILV

bitter gyroBOT
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ILV @near pier sent @sleek wind 1.000000 ILV (≈ $50.34).

near pier
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for all those Fire gifs

simple patrol
normal python
simple patrol
normal python
near pier
near pier
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New twitter space music is fire

normal python
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Naked and afraid is awesome

gentle egret
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how the hell Kieran doesn't know Naked and Afraid! lol

near pier
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we watch it religiously

split lintel
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dayum Marketing Sub council heating up

vast spear
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@near pier Sofia ?

sage falcon
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Is this the podcast chat for now

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Ghamster

molten granite
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How do you submit questions to the escape pod?

normal python
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Thanks for the illuvitar @inner topaz 🥳Atlas_Love

alpine trout
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Ofcourse a mexican says tacos 😄

gentle egret
sage falcon
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What the fuck is this shark monologue

normal python
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Illuvium audio book voiced by kieran coming to merch store soon.

vocal folio
molten granite
dense grove
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Good escape pod today 🔥

keen estuary
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when @near pier talks about a show ...

near pier
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they copied the show Alone

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which is pretty cool

keen estuary
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twitter listens!!

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lol

dense grove
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I had never heard of the show but could never do it. Maybe Has Underwear and Kinda Scared I could do.😂

near pier
dense grove
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I laugh but there's truth to it. I wouldn't be able to sleep thinking of bugs crawling places...
Nope, I like being out in the day, then having my shower and bed.

simple patrol
obtuse panther
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plz haaalppp

red skiff
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do you guys believe in the game because it's good and promising or because you're all staked and invested? I mean, in 2021 we all believed that by 2023 the game would be out, but its release seems really far away.. idk just thinking

near pier
thin grail
obtuse panther
sweet epoch
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@near pier For the save

native hemlock
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@ripe geode i got the codeeeeee 6018_lsdheart

native hemlock
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is there any way to change the mouse sensitivity on overworld?

sleek wind
grim dagger
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Hi everyone, I'm new here and the newest ILV hold investor. I liked the style of the game, the graphics and I believe in the project. I have two questions.
Can I already access the game to play?
And what are your expectations for the ILV price for the next Bull Rum.

narrow vigilBOT
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Beta Access

You can register for the closed beta through this link: https://play.illuvium.io/arena

You can increase your chances of being selected for the closed beta of Illuvium by following these steps:

  1. Achieve the <@&870923789985271828> (Level 5) status in the server
  2. Get the <@&969492770102341634> role in #1038034977864032276 and promote Illuvium
  3. Participate in and win the weekly trivia competition
  4. Obtain the <@&1059575774589485116> role from Collab.land
simple patrol
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With regards to token price you can join in the conversation speculating what the token price could be in the token chat channel. It purely people’s opinions though not financial advice

hidden rose
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Hi there, is it playable game now? And anybody can start play?

hazy thorn
lusty mantle
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Gm

simple patrol
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Gm Fraggy. I’ve been waiting so patiently for you to wake up to share this with you. X

lusty mantle
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Who’s a good girl

simple patrol
storm rain
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no trivia this week?

normal python
simple patrol
normal python
languid silo
lusty mantle
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Poor Lars

languid silo
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On the bright side

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I heard next weeks Showcase will the biggest one yet😃

lusty mantle
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Has to be

languid silo
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Because it has been like 3 months since the last one😬

lusty mantle
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I think 4 weeks

languid silo
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I Think you are right,feels like 3 months..

normal python
agile tapir
sleek wind
native hemlock
simple patrol
languid silo
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Maybe Andrew should buy a second computer as backup?

languid silo
normal python
simple patrol
languid silo
lusty mantle
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Maybe his old one isn't broken and he wanted a new one 😛

spiral pebble
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gm

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Is anyone already get beta access of arena or overworld?

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I submitted google form but no reaction at all.

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should I need to level up more in discord? or buy something NFT?
I already have land of Zero.

simple patrol
alpine trout
languid silo
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Feel like Pb2 update is about to drop this week👀

lusty mantle
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Why would you think that?

thick jasper
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Good morning

thick jasper
sleek wind
simple patrol
alpine trout
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My girl has a 3070ti aswell

simple patrol
lusty mantle
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I don't even know what I have ^^

alpine trout
simple patrol
thick jasper
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I got a 3080. Should be good enough

cedar obsidian
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How much is D1sk roughly?

lusty mantle
sleek wind
# lusty mantle

fraggy that is exactly how much they are he asked for a rough number

lusty mantle
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Rougly around these prices

cedar obsidian
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@lusty mantle Thank you. Is it still on sale?

lusty mantle
cedar obsidian
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Mega sold out?

sleek wind
# cedar obsidian Mega sold out?

alpha mega sold out. 35 more days of the extended run with unlimited mintable mega d1sks. alpha is just rare 1st edition flex type of deal (with no other benefits, maybe a visible "stamp" at some point)

cedar obsidian
glossy elm
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The evening/night shift of meetings commences

lusty mantle
agile tapir
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Hmmm... Perry head of Data. Johnny CTO. Kiearn... Wonder what data theyre pouring over.

lusty mantle
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Opening D1SKs Atlas_Wow

languid silo
lusty mantle
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lol @sleek wind

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Time for my last coffee of the day

gentle thorn
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One person can be a key element of a team, but one person will never be a team, so we must work for the result and be one whole mechanism.

inland turret
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Gm Y'all

normal python
# lusty mantle Why would you think that?

Kieran said he was going to play it after the podcast. Even teased the idea of streaming it too. I didn't stick around with it being 1am at that point for me 😅 but I'm guessing he didn't in the end. Still, it implies leaks are on the way very soon.

lusty mantle
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Oh interesting, I was also sleeping

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Ty

normal python
lusty mantle
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Oh wow, nice! gg

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What question did you submit

normal python
lusty mantle
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Asking the real questions here

normal python
lusty mantle
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Jimbo

timber torrent
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just officially deleted my moonpay account after they failed to verify my "Proof of fund" after over two weeks without any notification of reson . Good job Im fully verified multiple place else where it realy was the worst crypto onboard exprince ever

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oh and if anybody wonder'd my inet is working fine again now 😉

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congrats alexa on pulling my hollo ramphyer .......grrrrrrrr

split lintel
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Anyone good at shooters?

young bone
# red skiff do you guys believe in the game because it's good and promising or because you'r...

I believe in the game and I'm invested. I've thought a lot about my bias in this area. I've played multiple web3 betas now , so far illuvium is on par with the best in graphics, plus is truly unique in what it brings.
I actually think it's amazing and offers multiple genres that will speak to different kinds of players.
100 percent it is the best alpha and beta I have played so far.

split lintel
open pollen
sage falcon
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What year will we be seeing illuvium release btw? Or do we not know yet

young bone
sage falcon
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Oh Q4 public beta launch? Will all tokenomics and stuff be ready as well? Like will it cost ILV and will you earn ILV and all that?

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Also I’m new to the coin I just liked the look of the game, is there a way to passively earn ILV or stake it with a high reward? If not that’s fine dw about it

lusty mantle
sage falcon
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Oh I was assuming it would be ILV

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What’s the point of ILV then?

thin elbow
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😂 rugged

lusty mantle
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Aaaaaah can't remember the bot command 😅

young bone
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Lol

sage falcon
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But like what is the point of ILV I’m confused

worthy juniper
# sage falcon What’s the point of ILV then?

ilv is a governance token, with it you have a voting power inside the illuvium dao, and also if you stake your tokens you are eligible for revenue distribution since all revenue from illuvium is getting distributed to the token stakers!

sage falcon
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Doesn’t make sense to my smooth ass brain

sage falcon
narrow vigilBOT
#
Illuvium Revenue Distribution

ICCP-3 Revenue Distribution Decisions aimed to ensure sustainable revenue distribution for the long-term operation of the DAO, and to provide clear expectations for $ILV stakers. Future product proposals should adhere to the relevant distribution definitions.

Summary:
For products with negligible variable costs, 100% of revenue will be distributed.
For products with non-negligible variable costs, 100% of revenue minus variable costs will be distributed.

For more detailed information, please read the full ICCP: https://gov.illuvium.io/#/proposal/0x245e440c3b517a0b7a7ff11c2c038cfd96c503ab9cbf3e593bd8d7c73cd07fae

timber torrent
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sorry Hooters

thin elbow
lusty mantle
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😅 Classic Fubar

timber torrent
patent geyser
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Why has gas been so high for days!

lusty mantle
past hare
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Hello everyone

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I have a question @marsh river , what happened to the max supply?

languid silo
past hare
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the max supply was 10 million and now is 9,634,960 tokens

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was there some sort of burn? @marsh river @little flax

lusty mantle
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?silv2

narrow vigilBOT
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sILV2 Token

sILV2 is a substitute currency that can be gained as yield when staking ILV. In game, it can be used to pay for any fee that otherwise would be paid for with the main currency ETH or Fuel.

While claimed staking rewards in the form of ILV are locked for 12 months, sILV2 offers the opportunity to liquidate your staking rewards immediately. The tradeoff for that is that sILV2 only can be used in-game and does not provide compounding in any form.

languid silo
humble trail
lusty mantle
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Each sILV2 claimed is 1 les ILV that can be minted

humble trail
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it actually doesn't say that claiming sILV2 burns ILV.

lusty mantle
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I have too much trust in the bot commands, didn't even read it 😛

past hare
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It doesn't explain how the max supply went from 10 million to 9,634,960

lusty mantle
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Each sILV2 claimed is 1 less ILV that can be minted

humble trail
past hare
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Ah, now I get it

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so, the whole process is deflationary?

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I mean, it will become more scarce

humble trail
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yeah but it can only deflate up to 3M. And currently about 2M tokens were already claimed in ILV so it isn't like sILV2 will burn another 500K ILV tokens.

Probably the maximum burnt will be around 400-500K at the current sILV2 Claim rate.

split lintel
past hare
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right?

lusty mantle
humble trail
past hare
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I see

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ty

split lintel
lusty mantle
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It's America, it's probably both

split lintel
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God who knows

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I've heard good things about the food

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But idk if there's a bias

timber torrent
split lintel
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Fair enough

young bone
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Good night illustrious illuvium people

lusty mantle
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gn Teloolah

young bone
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That sticker is for the good night 😊

young bone
sage falcon
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Hello my favourite fraggy

wispy kindle
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How many fraggies do you know?

rose patrol
lusty mantle
sleek wind
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I only know one so fraggy is my one and only

vocal yoke
slim tapir
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Can you buy land? is there a after market>

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?

covert violet
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lord almighty why gas price gone up so high?

lusty mantle
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Sadly people been real busy trading meme coins

sleek wind
lusty mantle
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I try not to look at it too much

sleek wind
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funny how you hate looking in the mirror sometimes:
M0z4zrt- 1337 speak - my reaction 🙄
b0tch - my handle

near pier
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Gm

ember copper
gaunt juniper
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Hi @cursive siloyonewhen they announce the new beta tester?

lusty mantle
lusty mantle
lusty mantle
gaunt juniper
knotty crag
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I bought illuvitar disk but onlt received 1 item, i tought it say 1 random illuvitar, 3 accessories and 1 bonus tier 0

spare crane
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Gm

obtuse panther
frail raft
raw portal
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hi guys. been keeping my eyes on illuvium for a while but now im here too

dusty plank
narrow vigilBOT
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Beta Access

You can register for the closed beta through this link: https://play.illuvium.io/arena

You can increase your chances of being selected for the closed beta of Illuvium by following these steps:

  1. Achieve the <@&870923789985271828> (Level 5) status in the server
  2. Get the <@&969492770102341634> role in #1038034977864032276 and promote Illuvium
  3. Participate in and win the weekly trivia competition
  4. Obtain the <@&1059575774589485116> role from Collab.land
sleek wind
raw portal
sleek wind
sleek wind
knotty crag
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bought some alpha illuvitars from tokentrove as well,

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are those only cosmetic or they add any attributes?

obtuse panther
gentle egret
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Season 1 is coming, boys and girls!
I know it's just for the blueprints and still not the final design, but it will be fun! can't wait!

grave robin
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Hey everyone! Have been following this project for a long time now. Still hoping for one of those elusive beta codes 🙂 Love the direction and so excited to be a part of the group. I have to say it is unlike any project i have been a part of, the game seems to already be in a better state than what many AAA titles release in.

ripe geode
ripe geode
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This is a perfect start to get some beta code already Atlas_Thug

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BUT!!!

lusty mantle
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🪄

ripe geode
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we like to make ppl work a little for it xD

ripe geode
lusty mantle
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I did my part, now it's up to you 😛

grave robin
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Whenever it happens, it happens, will be pumped to play and get some time in 🙂

ripe geode
grave robin
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you know it

ripe geode
ripe geode
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1. In this chat we have @obtuse panther weirdly active right now 👀 without using #💬〕general , manage to get information what wave in Arena killed him today Atlas_Yeah 👀

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(tip: he is one of the pros here)

near pier
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Heard someone mention top pro

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I'm here

obtuse panther
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I know the master cheat for turok on Nintendo 64 by heart

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I'm watch master ranger @fluid leaf in action.

grave robin
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Task 1 - Wave 22

ripe geode
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ALMOST CORRECT!! Atlas_Yeah

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but i take it xD

obtuse panther
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On my defense it was a speed run

ripe geode
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he killed 22 and 23 killed him Atlas_Thug

obtuse panther
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Coming for jetski

ripe geode
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**2. Name (and ping) the biggest fisherman in our community Atlas_Yeah **
(tip: he fishing leaks every single day, he is like U.S postal officer "Neither snow nor rain nor heat nor gloom of night stays these fisherman from the swift completion of fishing leaks)

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||(help him someone, but not in this chat Atlas_Thug )||

grave robin
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reviewing chat history....

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Who is, Lars.

sleek wind
ripe geode
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YES!!!!! ITS @languid silo Atlas_Yeah

obtuse panther
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Question 3 who is the best fisherman irl? Hahha

ripe geode
ripe geode
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3. We have a meme master here ||(ekhm, ekhm @sleek wind )||, convince him in one sentence to make new one, including YOU in it, and i have a feeling, after this one you will be ready to join our IlluFamily Atlas_Yeah

spiral stone
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don't mind me. just checking my new roles

humble trail
spiral stone
obtuse panther
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I still need to stake and buy land . Friday might be the day for me to snag them roles

sage falcon
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🍴😆🍴🍴😋😋

little pier
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hey guyz

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hey pikachuuuuuu

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how are u

humble trail
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man i wish Pikapika was here... his cringey "pika's" at the end of a sentence made me laugh.

little pier
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hey @humble trail

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HOW ARE U BRO

humble trail
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sup dude! i'm good!

little pier
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thats great to hear

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any ideas when are we goin mainet

humble trail
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mainnet as in earning potential?

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getting actual NFTs?

little pier
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yeah

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Im looking to make nfts

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free nft

humble trail
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well Illuvium Zero will see Season 1 this month. You will need to buy a land though, or play on someone else's. You'll be able to mint some Blueprints if you put in the effort.

Overworld and Arena will probably be by the end of the year or something like that 🙂 Q4-Q1 maybe.

little pier
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was told I could play free

humble trail
little pier
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play n earn free

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nothing is on mainet

humble trail
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You can't get any NFTs by playing an Illuvium-game for free now. no. That's something that will come with Illuvium Overworld and Arena by the end of the year.

narrow vigilBOT
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Free To Play

Begin your adventure with a free-to-play experience that takes you to our richly detailed world, where everyone starts with equal opportunities. Immerse yourself in thrilling gameplay and grasp the fundamentals of the game. The free-to-play experience in the Tier 0 regions offers a full and engaging gameplay experience, without any limitations.

If you enjoy the free-to-play experience, you have the option to dive into the paid elements of the game and discover higher tiered regions, collecting valuable NFTs and embarking on more exciting adventures.

Please keep in mind that after the game's launch, it will be possible to list Tier 0 NFTs on the IlluviDEX to sell them for ETH. However, the value of these NFTs cannot be guaranteed as it is an open market and the price will be influenced by supply and demand factors controlled by the players.

humble trail
little pier
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how do I earn as a free player

obtuse panther
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Hahahhaha

little pier
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hahahahaha

humble trail
# little pier how do I earn as a free player

you would either have to borrow or play on a land of someone else for Illuvium Zero. Again, this will allow you to obtain some very common blueprints. (whether you can sell those instantly is another story since they need to implement the minting process yet)
Or you play the game by the end of this year.

Don't expect any "earning potential" before the end of this year, and even when the game releases, I don't think you'll be able to earn much. Illuvium is more similar to physical card-games. You don't usually earn from interacting with those.
I don't think you should expect to earn anything from playing Illuvium.

obtuse panther
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Press x to delete

little pier
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can I addu garf

humble trail
narrow vigilBOT
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DMs are scams

Mods and Team members will never DM you.
Never trust advice or links received in DMs.

Beta access, giveaways, and promotions are not given out via DM. Scams are designed to trick you into installing malicious software to gain access to your wallet or to convince you to enter your seed phrase into a website. Never give your private key (12 to 24-word seed phrase) to anyone.

Support is not provided via DMs

Support is handled publicly, or in threads within the Illuvium Discord. People offering support via DM are scammers.

little pier
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I need u to explain me

ripe geode
sleek wind
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can i show it now?

ripe geode
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**WELCOME IN IlluFamily ** @grave robin
By the power of our community we grand you access to #1075137668821823628 Atlas_Yeah

ripe geode
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fill the form, your ID is 318229095932624898, you should get your access in 3-7 days Atlas_Thug

obtuse panther
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Maybe I can convince @sleek wind to make me a gif one day. Maybe I just need a better pfp... hmmm?

grave robin
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Thank you @ripe geode, look forward to learning from all of you 🙂

thick jasper
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he´s the best

languid silo
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Another entertaining welcome show from @ripe geode

thick jasper
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<@&821154860816793604> ⬆️

obtuse panther
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@sleek wind I will save and cherish this for ever! I wanna watch you make some of these.

hazy thorn
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Are we getting a showcase this week?

ripe geode
hazy thorn
# ripe geode

Thanks brother. Sucks no showcase again this week.Atlas_Pepe1

azure narwhal
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24hr showcase stream incoming hosted by Andrew for the entire time

thin elbow
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Would be nice to get more than the usual 60-90mins. I feel Like grant could talk about the shit anyways for days, so it's just up to Andrew. Maybe he feels very Bad for it and we get a multiple hours Stream 🤞... With some live pvp in it 👀... Maybe...

hazy thorn
open leaf
simple patrol
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Gm fabulous people

near pier
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We never block anyone of critical comments if you search around there are plenty, and you don’t need to spam them every channel with your story since I’m already trying to help you sort out why you were removed

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Ser, I said DM me to sort it out. You won't, continue to rant and complain. There are several factors on why you could've been banned, we have bots that look for things and ban, or you broke rules in which case you would've got a warning, but I can't know if I dont know what your previous account is.

molten granite
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Lol I'm just playing around! Rich is really responsive to DMs in cases like this so just give him a chance to help you sort it out even if the prior person you talked to wasn't as helpful as you'd like

royal mica
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Just over to say hi from alpha origins discord. Love the game, those folks sure know how to get us interested in these games

molten granite
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I hope you get your issue resolved!

thin elbow
alpine trout
sage falcon
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Gm only to the mediocre people

simple patrol
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Great to see more fabulous and talented people nominating themselves for council. Man the decision making process is getting harder by the day, 🤩

simple patrol
thick jasper
thin elbow
simple patrol
thin elbow
# thick jasper you?

Na, i'm a noname here. And i feel i can't say what i wana say, the way i wana say in here, if i actually would get voted in

simple patrol
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And I’m joking there is no such position available

tribal lintel
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Lots of nominees coming in today haha

near pier
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up to 41 ish i think

tribal lintel
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Did Thor make it in?

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He said he was going to do it today

near pier
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hes changing his bio to 300 words but yes

tribal lintel
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Thor has trouble following instructions

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Strategic mastermind tho

simple patrol
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Man of many words

tribal lintel
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Super hyped to see so many people nominating

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We’ve got such a badass community

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Gonna do another Space tomorrow at 8pm EST to try out a new timezone so stop on by if you guys want, and all you new nominees should slide through and tell the world how cool you are

simple patrol
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I’m so pleased that @humble trail put in a nomination. 😎

split lintel
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gm every1

cold adder
crystal olive
sage falcon
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i was wondering why land owners cant get a beta code to overworld?

young bone
young bone
open pollen
sage falcon
young bone
young bone
split lintel
sage falcon
young bone
young bone
cold adder
sage falcon
young bone
sage falcon
young bone
# sage falcon She understood the assignment

I'm still keen to double for cosmetic work, i need more funds first though. I'm also looking at going into the beauty industry, then study nursing reaaaalllly slowly, then i can jab you for freeez!

young bone
sage falcon
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I have some before and after pics of a 31 year old

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By a doctor in Sydney

young bone
sage falcon
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Studying nursing is super involved

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Better to just become a drug dealer tbh

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Make more money

young bone
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i also need to learn how to spell 😂 could be an issue

sage falcon
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Doesn't matter. Just gotta weigh an ounce

young bone
sage falcon
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Profit margin isn't great tho

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But yeah

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Let's get our disgusting faces fixed

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Aim for this year

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This is amazing

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This dude is in Turkey

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@young bone

young bone
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im down

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that increadable

sage falcon
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Dude is very reasonable price wise

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But you gotta not mind getting botched

young bone
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do we need to go to Turkey

sage falcon
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Yeah

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Bring a jacket

young bone
oblique blaze
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No dev blog since Jan...should this be a concern? At this point just do a massive one that covers Feb-Apr

sage falcon
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Not a concern

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Aaron is busy

sage falcon
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And there are daily and weekly updates

oblique blaze
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Miss dem dev blogs 😢

young bone
ruby arch
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do y'all think a website that assesses which affinities a deck is strongest and weakest against is a good idea for a website?

young bone
young bone
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There are a few up and running yet im not sure if i can put the link in here

ruby arch
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The three websites I know of are Illuvidata, IlluivialMaster, and Illuvhub. I don't think my idea steps on any of their toes.

young bone
inland turret
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Gm Y'all

young bone
lusty citrus
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Good Evening from across the pond

young bone
sage falcon
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Omg DJ slappin

sage falcon
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Remember the story of my sister's flatmate that Rich deleted

young bone
sage falcon
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And the sushi was great thankyou for not remembering

young bone
sage falcon
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does loading your disk burn the disk nft?

novel oak
sage falcon
novel oak
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what do you mean?

sage falcon
novel oak
sage falcon
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I did, all the contents are their own nft in my wallet now, thanks again

novel oak
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oh ok cool. Careful collecting Illuvitars can be addicting 😄

lusty mantle
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Gm

novel oak
lusty citrus
amber sandal
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hi when I see tokens are pending to be withdrawn to my Metamask Wallet do I have to do something else? Or I have to wait some hours?

lusty mantle
severe pumice
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Gmorning 🧛🏽

timber torrent
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the uk just effectively block'd msoft takover of activision 😉

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good job 💪

final plume
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Ahahahah I just noticed SJUD applied for game council

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I remember those conversation when he was so in love with his opinion that he openly said multiple times that we should ignore the opinion of the public

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Not exactly a good trait for an elected member

thin elbow
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How he actually applied? With an alt Account?😅

red bear
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With someone like SJUD he has probably done more harm than good to his image, but i am also of the opinion he cares about the game. Its about perception and your view of his success if he represented you.

nova sphinx
thin elbow
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Just the fact that he has been too toxic to be in discord, but could be elected as council is kind of paradox.
But doesn't he habe a guild or something Like that? I bet he gets in, because he has some Followers there 🙃

nova sphinx
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Hes in Xborg with a couple good players

thin elbow
red bear
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Character is key, people dont easily forget history.

Regardless, the elections will determine his fate.

nova sphinx
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Theres other qualified good candidates it will be a good roster there (cough cough like me😄 )

thin elbow
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Really have to read through all applications once, didn't found time yet 🙄

final plume
thin elbow
final plume
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It's more like: even if 98% of the community doesn't like a character, if the pros like it, you'll just have to go watch their stream and learn how to like them"

thin elbow
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Dangerous opinion, Kind of a dejavu... Had some Kind of that discussions somewhere in here lately with someone

final plume
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He's assuming multiple bad things:

  1. People care about streamers
  2. The game doesn't have to be fun for bad players to be a success, as long as it is balanced for high level players
  3. A competitive scene is all the game need
thin elbow
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Wow... Now i guess even the people in his own guild, won't vote for him.

red bear
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The vote is a democracy. All will become very clear in a few days

final plume
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Most people just wanna boot the game, play for an hour, quit, come back the next day. They don't want the need to get a bachelor degree in illuvium, learned by watching pros, in order to play a balanced game

thin elbow
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Without attraction of the masses, it's easy to fail as a gaming Studio.

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But balance is balance right, there is no such thing as balanced for pros or balanced for noobs... It's either balanced or not.

vocal cape
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Hey guys! Is the project still doing well development wise? I love ILV and I just jumped in and I'm looking to see this project grow long term.

willow jackal
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Also, not to forget is: people remember stuff.
If you make bad decisions early on they will follow you forever.
It's much harder turning a negative opinion of a community to something positive than it is to do the opposite.

final plume
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Yes, and pros will know balance better, but when the noobs can't make it work you can still think of ways to modify the behavior of a character to be more easily understood by noobs even if it was balanced

outer hull
thick jasper
smoky rivet
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Has anyone heard from the team any plans to adopt AI in the development process? (Not NPC)

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Trying to think how Illuvium will stay competitive in the AI era, and how much knowledge of AI the leadership has

nova sphinx
smoky rivet
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Maybe Aaron has some great ideas on this he hasn't shared?

nova sphinx
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The enemy we currently face every day in the arena is the AI

dusty plank
smoky rivet
smoky rivet
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Maybe we'll hear something on that in the near future

dusty plank
wide coral
# thin elbow But balance is balance right, there is no such thing as balanced for pros or bal...

League of legends is a great example of the differences between skill levels for champ balance. The extremely deep user base gives us plenty of data to go on. If you filter on silver players, the highest win rate champions are typically much different than challengers.

Also win rates are different from challenger solo queue (top 200 players) and pro games as pro games are more structured. Balance heavily depends on how players play, and what characters opponents are using.

If you could theoretically have a system to achieve a perfect game theoretical balance using advanced AI or something. That would be a horrible experience for gamers, as even the best will never be close to perfect if the game is good. So certain characters would never be played because even though the AI has figured out a way to make them useful and play them well, humans may never achieve that.

Balance is a hard thing. Which is one reason why gamers always complain about it. As soon as you change the game in any way, balance shifts.

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I’m not saying AI can’t help balancing to be clear, but it has to be implemented in clever ways

tribal lintel
thin elbow
tribal lintel
wide coral
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Arena is going to have a high skill ceiling I would think, so the theoretical best will be so so so much better than even people who play all day every day

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I am a fan of letting users figure things out though. Games patch things too quick nowadays

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Time to let the meta settle and for people to figure out counters is good.

wide coral
narrow jetty
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sjud got banned cause the team didnt like his opinion

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when he said things were being done wrong and it would take forever

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which is exactly what happened

lusty mantle
narrow jetty
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btw fraggy, where is that end of april video of pvp that was promised?

lusty mantle
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I never promised that

narrow jetty
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promised is a strong word, sure

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but surely you stated it

lusty mantle
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I don't have access to PvP, I only repeat the info that the team provides.
The council decided not to share the video with the community.

narrow jetty
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and the whole story about sjud doxxing ben is strongly out of proportion

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all he said is that ben has no relevant game experience and sucks in autochess

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he doesnt even know his name lol

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so impossible to doxx

narrow jetty
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that nothing was ready enough to be shown to the public?

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you gotta give me some credit there at least right?

lusty mantle
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I'll pass but thanks for offering

sage falcon
#

There is an issue with critical thought being communicated in the Illuvium discord. Any critique is shut down pretty fast, and it’s an inhibitor to conducive discourse pertaining to the subject.

It’s great to have a happy positive discord, but the balance problem for me is more to do with the lack of critique permitted in the chat.

I don’t personally like SJUD, but he’s been in gaming a long time, he makes salient points pertaining to the game mechanics, balancing, etc.

Anyone who is critical of an aspect of the project or the team, is ganged up on, ridiculed, and even banned. This has to change.

narrow jetty
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completely agree with hughwizzy there

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its not a popularity contest, its about making the game as good as possible for the players

lusty mantle
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There has been a lot of critical comments and the team appreciates all of it.
But if you can't do it without insults, nobody is going to listen to you.
Insulting people is not how you get them to listen 🙂

narrow jetty
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i just saw the messages that got sjud banned, and there was nothing insulting about it

thick jasper
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its a beta guys. they working on it. its not that its a finished product and there is need for change. its a beta so let they work.

lusty mantle
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There has been multiple changes in the entire project because of community feedback 🙂

narrow jetty
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simply stating that someone has no relevant work experience in a field isnt an insult

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saying that someone's skills are bad in a certain game - same

lusty mantle
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And that is not the reason he got banned

sage falcon
lusty mantle
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I'm not talking about him, I'm talking about feedback 😄

narrow jetty
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i see the whole conversation between you and sjud fraggy, you were fishing there and actively looking for a reason to ban him imo

lusty mantle
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I didn't even ban him

narrow jetty
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he literally CANT do what you claim, since he doesnt know bens real name

lusty mantle
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I ban scammers

narrow jetty
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all he said was that the name ben uses isnt his real name

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thats not doxxing?

lusty mantle
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Again, I didn't ban him. If he feels like his ban is not correct he can make a support ticket.

narrow jetty
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the reason he even started talking about it is because the team claimed that ben had a huge role in tft

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which was a straight up lie

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so yeah, its a weird situation for sure

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feels like someone just didnt like him and banned him for no good reason to get rid of him

thick jasper
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guys its not cool if we discusses that here in general. not looking good for new comers to read like this in the beginning of joining this discord

sage falcon
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I don’t like SJUD and have had rows with him in the past, but the guy shouldn’t have been banned. I can dislike him but acknowledge that he’s a very valuable part of the puzzle overall, and his opinion should be heard. If you want to ban someone for being rude etc, then that’s way too loose, the mods can decide to interpret something they don’t like and just ban and say it was cause they were rude

None of the people who gang up on the critical thinkers ever get banned when they are Rude

narrow jetty
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why not, we're an open forum right?

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i really disliked him at first too

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but once you get to know him he's OK

lusty mantle
narrow jetty
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nobody even told him what rule he broke

sage falcon
lusty mantle
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It's actually quite hard to get banned here (if you are not scamming)

narrow jetty
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he asked you, you said: go ask rich

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he couldnt ask rich, cause rich had blocked him

narrow jetty
sage falcon
narrow jetty
#

you have an election coming up and are actively preventing one of the candidates to campaign, cause the team dislike him personally

lusty mantle
sage falcon
#

I love the project and I hope it works out, but it’s a lie to say it’s transparent. It’s simply not true. The discord is full of fakey positive comments, and that’s all there is, anyone who has anything meaningful or critical get shut down instantly

near pier
thick jasper
sage falcon
near pier
lusty mantle
sage falcon
# near pier That wasn’t why he got banned either

Keep the chat clean ? What is this a playschool ? I find it incredible how people don’t want critical thought to be discussed and instead want to shift it off into the shadows or somewhere where it’s less noticeable. This is not transparent, this is just censorship and it’s pretty appalling to be honest

thick jasper
near pier
lusty mantle
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I was sleeping and I seem to know more facts about this than you. Not sure why we are talking about this

sage falcon
# near pier That wasn’t why he got banned either

Man I have no issue with you personally, but that guy never got a message. He was shut down so quick by you and yeh I’d be pissed too if it was me. He had legitimate concerns few days ago, shut down. Came back, shut down again, no warning.

You told him he was banned for having a suspected alt account, but you provide no evidence for that

It’s such an easy thing to say and use as an excuse to justify a ban when it’s not warranted. The guy did nothing wrong, you can’t shut down conversation just because you don’t like what they say, and then justify it by saying ‘you suspect it’s an alt account’

That’s just pure censorship, and yeh Il be honest iv lost a lot of faith In this whole thing because of this sort of stuff

narrow jetty
#

there surely seems to be an active bias going on though on positive messages

sage falcon
# near pier If it was censorship wouldn’t we be deleting your false information messages now

But they aren’t false, iv seen the guys screenshots of the conversations and how you banned him. He literally has the screenshot from yesterday where you said he was banned because you ‘suspected’ he was an alt account

You first said you wanted him to come to DM, he then said no let’s do it public, then you told him

If a DAO is transparent, they don’t behave like this. They don’t make up something so weak as a ‘suspected of being an alt account’ as a justification to ban someone

narrow jetty
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but in the end, there's an election coming up and one of your candidates cant even speak up in the discord

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maybe unban him for the campaign at least?

sage falcon
# near pier Agree to disagree

No to be honest, it’s not about that, it’s about the facts. Iv seen the screenshots you literally told him he was banned because you ‘suspected’ him of being an alt account. You have no evidence of this, and then you banned and deleted him. He just said he was lucky that he took screenshots all asking cause he had a feeling someone would play tricks like that

narrow jetty
#

doesnt sound very democratic

lusty mantle
narrow jetty
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just being around and hanging in discord channels helps, you know it

sage falcon
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There will be another discord set up that won’t be from the team, there’s been far too many issues of people getting banned just for having critical opinions.

near pier
narrow jetty
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there's also the story of TSG not even sending the invite to SJUD regarding the panel discussion

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there's an active campaign going on to stop him from even running

wide coral
# narrow jetty doesnt sound very democratic

Idk the facts of the situation, but if you do something to get yourself banned you don’t get to be unbanned just because you put your name for election.

Not taking a stance here either way but come on.

lusty mantle
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Then just message TSG about that?

near pier
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Seems counter productive

thick jasper
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we told him a few time that he needs to get to support because of the ban. but he doesn´t want to.

narrow jetty
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well he didnt know he was gonna run a year ago when he was drunk obviously

sage falcon
lusty mantle
near pier
narrow jetty
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ok but long story short, should sjud send in a support ticket?

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and who's gonna look at it?

lusty mantle
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If he feels like his ban was not justified, that is the process.
I don't know, the support team I guess.

sage falcon
near pier
wide coral
near pier
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Because it’s “unfair”

lusty mantle
sage falcon
# near pier You keep saying the same thing over and over but I sent the message our how this...

Then explain why he was suspected of being an alt account ? And explain why he was not sent a message to inform him he was banned and why ? And why you said he could DM you when you knew that he was already banned and therefore couldn’t have anyway to find your username or access the server to message you.

You only messaged him because he got in touch with me and asked me to implore you to in the chat

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Sheesh the guy prolly had his DMs closed so he didn't get the message from the bot.

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# lusty mantle Wouldn't you already be shut down then? As I said before, we appreciate all feed...

I mentioned nothing false. This is just pure gas lighting. You don’t allow critical thought here. It’s become like a cult, first the person being critical gets ganged up on , then ridiculed, then shut down. It’s been so evident the last few days.

If you can ban someone for saying ‘we suspect you of being an alt account’ with zero evidence, than that’s just a weapon to use to ban anyone you don’t like what they say

lusty mantle
# sage falcon I mentioned nothing false. This is just pure gas lighting. You don’t allow criti...

You mentioned multiple wrong things as we explained you above.
You seem quite critical and still I'm talking to you so not sure what you are talking about here.
There was a reason to believe it was an alt account and he is in contact with support now to sort it out. This has been the process for months and has never caused any issues.
Same thing happened to @dapper cradle, he followed the process and joined again.

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can you point me to the way to send in the ticket?

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# near pier He’s already sent in a support ticket, you aren’t owed any explanation only he i...

Don’t get like that with me man, I as anyone else here is owed an explanation as to why people are banned when the team says they ‘suspect’ then of being an alt account. People with critical thoughts have a right to know how exactly the team are basing that decision on, because if you’r gonna do that, you better come with a lot of receipts otherwise it just looks to be a tool to ban people you don’t like

The guy the other night got no explanation, he gave some opinions, and you just banned him again. He had got a second SIM card to access discord to find out why he was banned the first time, it’s not the behaviour of a DAO that claims to be transparent

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just email support@?

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Not avoiding the question I answered, you can ask your friend once he starts his appeal

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The mods here and the way control has seemingly gone to their heads is concerning. There needs to be a new server or place that people can discuss things pertaining to the subject in a critical manner

Investors, players, members of the community have right to air their views without fear of being shut down and banned for madey up reasons without any evidence.

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i agree: this culture of fear of being banned for speaking your mind and giving your opinion has to end

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just to illustrate a point

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after my last rant fraggy, i got a bunch of DMS

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Me 2 🙂

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of people saying they completely agree with me but are too scared to speak up

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that cant be the culture the team wants to promote right?

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They should, nobody is going to get banned for giving feedback

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I often had a critical voice in the past, always got a fair response of teammembers which actually Made Sense, even tho going against my opinion. Never got banned...just sayin

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Rich is Community Manager

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And he got an explanation

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He has literally sent me everything, at least what he got before you deleted him from the server. It’s a really bad look. I was neutral before this but when you see the over and back etc, it looks really bad

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And you still have not allowed him back in on any account

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He’s banned and can’t access the server or anyone in it

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All this came about from him being critical of the project

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He is in contact with support.

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well i cant speak to that issue

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but i can speak to sjud running

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and teammembers messaging him telling him to step down

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Are you going to go through the entire discord and pick people you ‘suspect’ of being alt accounts ? Or only the ones with critical opinions you don’t want to be made public ?

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because it opens the door to even worse candidates

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which is just ridiculous if you try to look as a democratic system

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