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zealous scaffold
chilly fern
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Im innocent if it breaks cutefrog

chilly crater
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Everyone here will be help responsible no exceptions

zealous scaffold
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Isn't it waterproof? Most new ones are waterproof

chilly fern
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Daedals fault i heard devil cutefrog

bold cape
chilly crater
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🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

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In his defense, he did say ignore the troll but I couldn’t help it

zealous scaffold
chilly fern
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Im so excited for the WC to show up cutefrog just hoarded lots of heal speedups cutefrog

zealous scaffold
bold cape
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Will be awesome

chilly crater
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As long as I have a seat in he mud no one will burn

chilly fern
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My troops are doomed

chilly crater
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Let me check mine

zealous scaffold
chilly fern
bold cape
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I’m just gonna let 10% die maybe

chilly crater
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Ha!

zealous scaffold
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This is my backup...

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chilly crater
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Beat both of you 🤣

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With diamonds?

chilly fern
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Nice! We can all kill our troops, they will be doomed for WC

chilly crater
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It will be worse if ur in my seat

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Just saying….

bold cape
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🤣 🤣 🤣

zealous scaffold
chilly crater
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😝😝

chilly fern
chilly crater
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So you’re good

chilly fern
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In WC mud im gonna burn in seconds

zealous scaffold
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HoF does not attack anyone in the mud...

bold cape
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I’m stalled at 120m build might

zealous scaffold
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Unless...

chilly crater
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Speak for yourself 🤣🤣

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Unless I need a seat

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🤣🤣🤣

chilly crater
zealous scaffold
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We will ask you to move nicely...
Then we will move you 😈

bold cape
chilly crater
chilly crater
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I can be a mama bear

bold cape
chilly crater
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That means u doing something right

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Anyone else loving the 15 states in WK legends?

zealous scaffold
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I dunno... every time we get a momma bear in the neighborhood the group goes wild and everyone avoids the streets! 🤣

bold cape
chilly crater
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Not that kind of bear!🤣🤣

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Yes I like it as well

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We have more victims… I mean options

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Hopefully Major will grow a pair and come to legend….
Big mistake bashing me for no reason…. He’s Gona see my super sweet side going forwards

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Stupid Keyboard warrior

bold cape
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Talk the talk
Walk the walk

spare jetty
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The most costly event with rewards that negate the worth of attendance.

bold cape
zealous scaffold
bold cape
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If you are not prepared to let 10% die or use up your speedup hoards, heals, diamonds… might not be the event for you

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If you are prepared and love killing stuff….. definitely the event for you 😊 😊

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Seriously, if you play it as a team especially in Born leader round it’s a really great opportunity to earn great rewards

zealous scaffold
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I remember the first time I held a tower... Getting hammered nonstop was super fun!

bold cape
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The glitch in the very first one… I held hub for 13 sec 😂

zealous scaffold
bold cape
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Then Nivre killed me

torn ore
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👀

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What excited me about me WC. Well the rewards 😂

stuck mango
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I don't abid liars or atheists!

torn ore
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Let’s keeps it civil

chilly crater
torn ore
bold cape
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The topic is WC and Kaz was kind enough to point out the server rules

torn ore
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Someday. I wish to win born leader. But my 800m true might isn’t allowing this

dull matrix
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Ok this!!! If there is 1 thing I want in WC is the end to drunk parking 👀

urban kettle
agile pelican
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The weapon box 3's need to be at minimum epic. So many diamonds and speedups needed to get them and all I have ever gotten from them was rare weapons and I've done every single Born and Renowned since WCon started. The troop chip stuff is good but shouldn't have a limit. Just my opinion and as they say... opinions are like buttholes, everyone has one! Lol

bold cape
agile pelican
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@bold cape Am I wrong? Just stating my opinion.

bold cape
agile pelican
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@bold cape Indeed!

mellow vector
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Rewards of events definitely need a shakeup.

— Wasteland King needs an entire overhaul for the matchmaking system as well as the rewards system. 400 hours of speedups doesn’t even begin to cover the cost of retraining lost troops after a normal WK event, let alone one where your fast comeback is massive as a result of a long drawn out fight
— I actually quite like the current rewards for Valiant Conquest, but I wouldn’t say no to some bonus goodies added on top
— Alliance Showdown rewards need an overhaul. Add some rarer materials in there (nanotubes, protons, p3 boxes, perfect frags) into the rewards options, and increase the overall amount of rewards by at least 40%
— An increase to the rewards of other regular alliance events (Dead Rising, Defence of Alliance, Reservoir War, etc.) certainly wouldn’t go astray either

I think rewards for irregular events are fine for the most part, but for Ruins Treasury specifically, I wouldn’t mind seeing the reward options in the lower tiers of the pyramid increase in size

I understand that this is first and foremost a business and as such the goal is for the company to make a profit, but the big rewards in holiday events need to be blocked by paywalling less frequently than they currently are so that players of all spending levels (nothing to whale) can feel like they’re getting something of value from time to time

bold dagger
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Give easier opportunities for people to get new hq skins and march skins. We need to slave ourselves and burn through all our rss or spend $200-300 to get - new skin

cyan thicket
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For WLK, it can be up to 24 hours. A few Nataly frags isn't really enough.

Not to mention the complaints about the boxes 😂

A couple of hundred diamonds for gov isn't much either.

And add a 'fast mode' to DR so it doesn't take an hour. Or scrap it entirely, I'm fine with that, too. Off the top of my head I don't even know what the rewards for it actually are.

But too many events still offer 4* hero cards, which I haven't needed for nearly 2 years. Even 5* hero cards are no use to me now, but I used to like them when I was still upgrading those heroes, they're probably still decent

Showdown feels more like a job than any sort of fun, those rewards could definitely use a rethink

I have all the 'special' heroes at +8, so I'm not really inspired by ace or improve might week activities, maybe we need some new heroes for those events which are worthwhile but don't cost huge $$$

And give us some more ways to get Dara/Angelo/hanyu, at the moment frags from lairs are the only way - bring back the wheel!

bold dagger
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Bring lvl 8-12 resource spots to main map

hearty harbor
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Timed tavern rewards could be better OASIS_kermitdrink

left anchor
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First prio:

  • There are items that are too hard to get, namely bioenhancer schemes, tavern coins and blueprints. Schemes and tavern coins should come more often from regular events, about blueprints, it would be great to give the chance to exchange them somewhere, like in rare earth shop.
  • valiant conquest rewards may need more levels, the difference between being in top 50 and being 500th is not much. If we had top 10 / top 50 / top 100 / top 200, with increasing rewards, that would make more sense.
  • More chances to get skin coins! 🙂 it takes really forever to get them from events
sick tusk
rustic dew
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It would be really nice to give us the opportunity to get some Skins in some regular events - or at least skin coins.

torn ore
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I would love to see more trials of survival. With more rewards….

vague spoke
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The rewards from regular events need to be adjusted to the game's progression. We need Promter 3, tubes, and protons.

In ACE and daily events, boxes where you can choose what you need (5* hero cards, perfect frags, timed tavern coins)

Other heroes should finally be available in Noah's Tavern; this tavern is a retirement home.

sick tusk
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Regular events - agree with above, better rewards to mirror games progression.

WC - reset rewards for each event. If people are attending born leader and getting capped on rewards, resetting cap for renowned will incentives them to attend.

Res Tourney - just bring it back

left anchor
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Make weapons more affordable please. Collecting 20.000 or 15.000 scraps for the exchange, for an average user that means 5+ years of playing, that's too long

worldly trench
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Showdown is so much work that you should at least be able to get a things like: a decent number on promoter III boxes (not 4 or 8, like 25-50), nanotubes & proton accelerators, weapons blueprints, weapon material choice chests, modification boxes, way more speedups (considering the quests require so many to complete), curio coins, skin tokens, timed tavern coins, and if you’re going to have a spend 100K diamonds quest, make it possible for us to get 100K diamonds as a reward

wild bay
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Given the effort and time people put in, Alliance showdown rewards can be better, increase the amount and add new items such as promoter III, modification box, might chest box, power chest box, etc.

Instead of different hq level has slight different selection of rewards, do make all the same. Big or small hq put in the same effort to get points.

torn ore
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Remove ranking aspect so don’t have to worry about de-ranking

winged crow
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WLK: personal pt rewards are about right.
Add a weighting for players who contribute disproportionately to their state’s win (it’s easy to churn through diamonds speeding up to join rallies etc).

Keep the rewards the victorious gov/aide can allocate and add a tranche that gets auto-allocated based on a players contribution/performance relative to their ‘size’

Echo the above about the opponent matching engine. It’s boring for those at the top. I guess most big states use it for Conquest practice.

Call the new highest level leagues: Echelon Epic/Apex/Mythic. This nomenclature gets applied to all events that have new higher levels/rankings.

WC: Current rewards feel about right.

Have a feature that deletes a lvl 42+ HQ acct at random throughout the event. Should make things more interesting.
Let 42+ players have the option to buy a defence for this. Could probably charge $1000+, throw in x2 3-min omni speedups too. It’ll fly off the shelves.

Clash/Res war:
Would be good to have a “same state” mini-league so we can kill each other without permanent losses.

Also I’d like to see an option to have a “dummy” clash/res war where alliances can invite others for a battle. Doesn’t impact regular rankings.
There are alliances with trillions of ally coin in their coffers. They could be charged ally coin for this.

Showdown: would be good to see how your alliance pt total compares to others in the same state.

Maybe try: 1 wk, 2wk and 4 week SDs running concurrently with rewards scaling as the month progresses.

Sonic/DOA
Add some new higher lvls. there’s players/alliances who can complete the highest current levels with taxis.

Introduce a feature that resets to 1 the hq of any player who types “no more rallies” in alliance chat during sonic.

It’d be good to have a dashboard in “my account” where players can view all the different event leagues/rankings.

Aside from the above, I’ve not really thought about it. Other opinions are available. 😉

wild bay
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For Alliance Conquest, the rewards seems alright. Cannot remember what are the other rewards besides Lavina frags. However, instead of officers get better rewards, make it that players who do their attempts (be it win or lose) get the better rewards.

long burrow
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Wasteland kings rewards need revamping

ruins treasury and intel event should become regular events, doesn't mean weekly but every 2 months or something on a schedule

left anchor
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Nukaland requires more balance. Being in the 35+ league all together with 40+ means that whoever is less than 40 is out of competition. Which means players skipping the event for years.
Also, where is underground warehouse? 😍 I loved that event, can we have it more often?

lean oak
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The main issues to me are that we have so many new things that have been added to the game, but the older events still give out the same old rewards. We get so much serum from zombie lairs, there is no need to have serum as a reward anywhere in the game any longer. Even thinking back to when I was a new player, serum was never an issue, as I would always reach a road block on Combat Manuals before I ever ran out of serum.

Alliance party sorely needs an overhaul, as 90% of the rewards there aren't even worth spending the time to collect. Food and wood? Maybe if it were 1 million instead of 150k. 10 Nanoweapon instacrafts? It should be at least 50, it is a rare drop anyways. These are just two that I can think of off the top of my head, but this goes for pretty much every reward in the party. Alliance Showdown is in the same boat, we have been getting the same rewards from Showdown for however long now, but we have so many new things we need, and we need even more of the other stuff, like speedups, enhancers, and promoters than we did when Showdown started. You cannot maintain a Ferrari on a Ford Pinto budget, and that is what you are asking us to do by still giving out the same rewards when we need like 10 times as much stuff as we did when the rewards started. Even the diamonds should be increased at this point.

You keep adding new things to the game for the whales to spend on, but then you don't ease up on how hard the new things are to obtain after a certain point or amount of time. Example, you have 11* gear/chips/modules/cubes behind a paywall with amplification, and that is fine, but at this point you should give us more P3s so that more players can work towards 10* g/c/m/c. Whales would still have plenty to spend on and to keep them ahead of everyone else, and at the same time you would help keep the other 99% of your player base happy knowing they will be able to grow some more.

worldly socket
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Need to make it so that when you run Special events they are achievable some of the time to get things like March and sanctuary skins without having to buy pack to make this possible, otherwise most players will not even play these events.

crisp frigate
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Echoing the others that mentioned promoter III, nanotubes, proton accelerators in rewards boxes for events. Also more diamonds in SD. A spend 100k quest but we don't even get 100k diamonds for rewards is counterproductive.

vale rain
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I personally would like to see more promoters 2 and 3 and wish that march skins and sanctuary skins were easier to aquire and not expensive...

deep gazelle
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-Regular events-the rewards for Ranking 1%, 5% etc are not equivalent to the resources/effort. I would suggest that the reward should be equivalent in value to the comparative expenditure. As an example -to be in the top 1% of your average Thursday ace you need to do about 200k t 13s, setting aside resources that's approximately 90-100 days of speedups 800 3hr speed ups is about 350k diamonds the rewards should at a minimum let you break even

bold cape
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WK - Nataly frags in contribution boxes
Add solar panels to advance material boxes
Revamp SD rewards to include p3, adv material boxes

deep gazelle
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-might. This is a biggie the event achievement for research and build might is topsy turvy especially if you pass thru mil2 on either side of that the input demands to might granted and how much might is required to complete the events is out of proportion.

dull matrix
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My Suggestions/peeves-

Wasteland King-More nat frags all boxes need at least 1 frag👀... GIVE THE AIDE TITLE BOOSTS TOO

Dead Boring can stay 900 free glory a DR week is worth the passive event. DoA was also recently changes and I like that change.

Showdown- We need updated rewards. Even is hq locked. Hq35+ should have access to advanced material boxes and p3s as reward choices.

Valiant need a diamond tile searcher.

Alliance party needs reward revamp too

(1 day ill remember to make suggestions again lol)

rotund rune
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Better way to recycle nano weapon!!!!!

worn dragon
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I would really like quick strike boxes to be added as a reward to regular events, maybe even the super diamond value shop. as of now it only appears in doomfest and I've never met anyone who has gotten it that way.

Could also make nanos like hanyu nataly etc. Appear in normal craft in the gear factory.

hard stirrup
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Doomsday rewards need a complete overhaul. Well, so does the entire event after the beta feedback was almost completely ignored lol
-Every single person who spends time in that dumb event should be guaranteed at least 10 frags to choose one of the three new heroes plus something fun like a frame or trinket. It's a massive boring time suck event, it needs much MUCH more compelling rewards for me to ever spend a dollar in there. Currently: spend a month and maybe get a handful of tokens to a shop with no guarantees you'll get your preferred new hero, or even a new hero at all.

storm chasm
# left anchor First prio: - There are items that are too hard to get, namely bioenhancer schem...

sadly (for the players) if the devs increase the availability of nano weapon designs, they'll decrease the chances of getting better colors to balance it out.

just like if we could trade nanoweapons between account every state would be FULL of hq20s that ONLY roll nanos and there would be little to no space for real players on the maps.

i like your sentiment... but trust that the devs to get theirs

storm chasm
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here's my suggestions...

Do the nukaland brackets by true might instead of by hq# or troop tier.

  • the vast majority of players don't play nuka because they are small for their hq/troop tier and don't want to be bullied.
  • if matchmaking goes by true might the devs can limit the power gap between players, and nukaland would be more evenly competitive (so long as the range of True might in each bracket isn't too large)
  • nukaland should also be a weekly event again and should have more time slots.
dull matrix
hard stirrup
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Just group Nuka by troop tier. So weak T11 will only be bullied by strong T11, instead of by T13🤣

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Also make Nuka rewards easier to complete. The rewards themselves are ok but in the current setup it's impossible to complete the rewards

dull matrix
dull matrix
slender slate
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yall ready for a long read? lol

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i've played for about 4 years now; a lot of rewards dont feel relevant/up-to-date; a lot has already been covered by other people but still:
-regular events:

  1. rewards from quite a few events feel very underwhelming/outdated, especially for experienced players; it's practically not really worth doing them - e.g. party, spec ops, etc. id much rather get 300 scrap than 300k food. the outdated part pretty much applies across the board, as mentioned above.
  2. rewards from doa/dr - good rewards but still not enough especially if you have 8*+ gcmc. same for marks of glory - nice, but not enough for lvls 35+
  3. we dont get enough joy coins - there's 4 heroes and 7 nanos in a joy box and the drop rate is awful frankly.
  4. fireflies - the alliance rewards are underwhelming in relation to the difficulty.
  5. break loose - some are ridiculous and/or not worth completing. i would personally like other heroes added to bl like we have for improve might series, ace, timed tavern etc (e.g. scarlett, eve, ironclaw).
  6. dailies - i guess those count as regular events right? can be improved massively. for example, replace the noah coins with TT coins.
  7. wk - even in higher levels the nataly frags are just not enough. the speeds are not enough either.
  8. showdown - 80 p2 boxes and 40 enh boxes are not enough. rss are redundant too. speeds are not enough etc. entire week of refreshing quests - just that alone should warrant a little more.
  9. alliance conquest - reward people for participating especially those who win both their battles.
  10. troop arena shop - 1 ulrik frag is 4k and a gold card is 1500 coins. doesnt make sense. the rest of the rewards are not very useful either.
  11. endorsing (apex match among other events) - sometimes it's pure luck and the rewards are not making it more enticing to endorse especially for stuff like the football/soccer world cup, the recent puzzling pvp event etc. you need 10 correct guesses for a single TT coin.
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  1. mystery shop - speeds are nice, please dont nerf that. the diamond chests, however - i dont need commander exp, antiserum etc. you can replace those with other stuff.
  2. nanoweapons - very few accessible events have prints and/or scrap in them. i understand the reasoning but crafting green after green after green for months is super frustrating and give practically 0 in return (i.e. scrap). there's plenty opportunity to chuck in a nanobox here and there or reward people who grind by giving more scrap and/or introducing scrap as event reward.

-irregular events

  1. great but need to be more frequent. in other words make them regular/ on a shedule. especially signals - it takes ages to save up enough signals.

-collaborations

  1. hate those because they're cash grabs for the most part. and then the heroes get shoved into timed tavern or joy.

general suggestions:

  1. please add more march speeds (fast march) - it really feels bad spending diamonds on speeding up marches.
  2. reduce rss rewards and replace them with more useful stuff - e.g. nova mili point, nanoweapon scrap etc.
  3. in my experience, in many 'events' there's little difference between levels/ranks - e.g. sim training - almost no difference between lvl 5 and lvl 6; spinning 270 for bioenhancers - the nova bonus doesnt do much; ranking in dr doesnt give much, little difference between say 3rd and 7th
  4. i personally think there's merit to rewarding people based on their hq lvl or the age of the acc - again, 300k food and wood is not really meaningful when i need tubes/protons/scrap/nova mili points etc etc.
broken apex
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Too many over-lapping events, new and old, all requiring us to spend $300 for a march skin that only gives a 5% troop attack boost?👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾

There needs to be a more efficient way to earn Skin tokens now that there's a shop and not only offer 5 on the rare occasion of when they do show up as prizes for events. 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾

Full stamina packs need to be added as rewards during stamina waste events, not a couple 10 cans when most decent lairs require at least 3xs that now. 👎🏾👎🏾👎🏾

bold cape
torn ore
subtle nymph
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I would love to be able to save up lucky draw/div tokens.

storm chasm
dull matrix
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What fills their true might is vastly different 👀

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Someone explained a goid reason awhile back true might isnt smart. So imma stick to thatfrogcoffee Cat_spin

storm chasm
dull matrix
# storm chasm true might is not the greatest barometer, but at least this way players would st...

It's why I don't really mind the tier brackets despite ummm t11s to demi mutants in big bracket actually minus never getting a box I don't struggle with either and ive been in this bracket a long time never had issues maybe im special.🤣 might has just never been a great indicator of strength. So squishing big area into 2 seperate 1s will be the best solution if they chose to do something.

storm chasm
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1b true rider and i haven't gotten a box once since getting to big boi nuka. i feel your pain

dull matrix
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I'm only at 600m true so I don't mind not getting boxes im a baby and will be a baby 40 soon so i know the consequencesfrogcoffee 😂

agile pelican
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Get rid of Dead wheelchair zombies Rising. Have an in state RW tourney. More participation level from alliance. Maybe make it like DoA and take out the zombie liars? Wheelchairs is the worst!

WK should have a Natalie frag tiered up in box levels to get more participation.

Frames you receive from anything should be permanent not x amount of days. If you blast through speedups and rss only to get a 10 day frame isn't much of a prize!

WCon weapons box should be minimum epic. Troop chip stuff shouldn't be limited. Those of us that look forward to WCon just for those only to get rare weapons and limited troop stuff get disenchanted.

Please tell us what events are not going to come back. I have so many things in my sack of tricks from Godzilla, G.I. Joe, Walking Dead etc. Either make them transferable or just say they're not coming back.

queen onyx
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4 year player- rewards are slightly behind the scale of releases of new boosts. Random Curio drops from boxes and needing everything to be the same level to rank up is a rough to keep up on. Holo design droprates are low and often long dry periods between drops.

More events now are buy to get random chance instead of buy X and get X guarantee. Price fluctuations can swing either way- but usually on the more unlucky/expensive side. I would prefer guarantee events over chance events. Also, especially with limited collaborations, never bring back the wheel for frags. Chance of obtaining a collab hero frag was worse than trying to rank in an event. Some players spent thousands for +3 - ridiculous rates.

Personally, I liked the 1 skin where there was a guarantee to obtain by obtaining 5000 currency. It was same level of rewards as rank 50 without needing to be rank 50 and risk being out spent and feeling disappointed in the last 5 minutes. Exclusivity is nice, but denial after spending beyond the normal rewards is depressing.

uneven pond
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I am going to focus on one event ALLIANCE SHOWDOW. This is one of the most alliance focused events and provides some decent rewards, but it certainly needs to be improved.

Rewards: Rather than individual rewards give choice boxes. A choice of per level would be good.
Examples:
5 Lesser Resource / 5 Speed Up / 5 Nova Choice
20,000 Diamonds, 10 Timed Tavern Coins, 10 Perfect frags
5 Advanced Resources / 5 Random Core / 5 Bioenhancers
10 Blue Nano boxes/ 10 Weapon Material / 5 Random Seeds
5 Mecha Choice / 5 Mecha Module / 5 Rare Material

Giving us choice boxes allows us to decide what is important for our needs.
As for diamonds as long as there is 150K points The first diamonds could be 20k, the second 30K and the last 50K.

At this point though, you could expand showdown 5 more levels each level being 20K points and having bonus rewards for those who make it.

Also, the being in the top 15 when making 150K is old fashioned. Not every alliance makes it all the time. If you make it to 150K you stay there, if not you drop a level. You should always be able to keep the level you make and not have to worry about being in the top 15. I seen the top 150 all score above 170K and those who even scored 150K themselves but didn't make the top 15 almost felt penalized for not being there even though they busted their butts to get the 150K.

Yes you can still reward the top scorers, but don't penalize anyone that breaks 150K and maxes out the rewards.

ruby turret
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I just want to add that, in my opinion, it makes no sense to be among the top three alliances in showdown, because the benefits and effort are disproportionate.
For a task with speedups, I need 420 hours – and i should get 10 back? it's a bit useless

steady elk
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I'd love to see skin tokens in regular event rewards.
And chance to get more Nataly frags in WK or other events

old jungle
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Most of the rewards seem to be geared towards the newest of new players and those that have been playing for many years get no value. Two easily fixed examples: the free diy pack event. The second box choose of a golden hammer, random relocate or 8 hour shield. Why not a 24 hour shield or at least a direct relocate. A golden hammer is absolutely useless to most players. Make it a skin token or a perfect frag.

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Hero duel conquest rewards are in serious need of overhaul. 3000 diamonds per event when I have hundreds of thousands of coins is just aggravating. Let me get unlimited diamonds or at least raise the cap. Change from
Ulrik frags to something else, maybe even just perfect frags. RSS is unnecessary. Add proton accelerators, curio or mecha here. The problem with PNS is that you have added a lot of new features and don’t go and revamp existing to match the new as you can see with the extensive feedback on showdown. The juice isn’t worth the squeeze.

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Strike first event is another one with just straight up outdated rewards. Ulrik and ephraim? How about make it one of the random
Heroes you released like Lorren or Marcus? Even just perfect frags would be great

crystal dune
dawn turret
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Wäre auch mal super für kleine Spieler die kein Geld ausgeben können, auch Belohnung bekommen für HQ skins und Marsch Skins ohne Monate sparen müssen und dann mit viel viel Glück eins zu bekommen, ich spiele seit über 3 Jahren habe es nur mit viel Glück und viele Diamanten ein marsch skin bekommen . Andere Mitspieler kaufen sich alles was sie wollen für unfassbar viel Geld, dann sollte doch was für kleine Mitspieler was dabei sein, was auch machbar ist. Danke

bold dagger
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When buying boxes the increased value of a box should be equivalently equal to the previous box.

I buy a resource box with 200 resource boxes for $5 then if I buy $10 resource box I should get 400 resource boxes not 380.

willow breach
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Remove the useless serum from lairs and arena and special ops and add something worthwhile? I have literally billions of serum I will never ever use.
Food from the new mecha event is useless also.
As some people have already stated, you aim these rewards to newer players and old players like myself (well over 4 years) don’t seem to get much worthwhile.
Rss and serum are useless to me.

glass copper
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Hi : Fireflies
Maybe have this event every 3weeks instead of every 2 weeks. It becomes tedious
I am also suggesting the same for showdown.. every 3weeks, giving us some time to replenish and grow..
Using up all our resources for SD just stunts our growth and makes discourages us

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Also, you guys need to look into the selection of ResWar it is weighted very unevenly... and it's not a one-off , it's been happening a lot

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When are we getting card duels back?

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Can we look into having the other options to gain a march skin in the fan medals shop?

unreal crown
thorny cloak
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Make a way to exchange antiserum for something useful, like nanotubes. Maybe after HQ 38 have an antiserum exchange shop or somthing like that...

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There are so many good suggestions here - I hope that the devs really take them to heart. I think the overall message is that rewards haven't kept up with the growth of the game.

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Also, make the 10 stam in the 3 dailies boxes cans instead of open stam 🙏

worn dragon
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I'm a bit late on the general suggestions but PLEASE balance fighter types. We're pound for pound worse in every way. After 2 years and change of playing it only becomes more disheartening, and the majority of players seem to be riders for the obvious advantage.

astral loom
torn ore
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#✨news message

i absolutely love going to Hong Kong.

Disney there is tiny but is always fun
Many museums and flower gardens.
I also climbed Ten Thousand Buddhas Monastery. It’s an extremely steep hill with a. Inch of Buddha statues you pass until you get to the top of the mountain.

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bright sequoia
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My favorite vacation is when we have reservoir tournament

torn ore
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Nam Liam garden was also very peaceful.

hardy rock
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Mecha boosts for match 3 tile games sux for those who are below HQ35...just sayin...nice way to NOT even up the playing field anywhere...do better, seriously 😑

mellow vector
hardy rock
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Lol...Ive tried them on my partners account..and I get it but have also noticed the players now ranking better than me in the tile events (they didn't get better at match 3 in two weeks by skill, that's for sure😂)

wild bay
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I want to go Japan.. have been there and want to go again! 😊

dreamy cosmos
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I have been to Aruba and would love to go again.

urban kettle
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It would be nice if at a certain lair level give us a modification box instead of green goop

brittle bane
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On vacation now! 😁

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terse abyss
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Cheeeehoooo

west goblet
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Aruba was nice, unlikely I learn to dive later in egypt.

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Versucht mal die Malediven, Tauchen war super mit den Mantas. Die Insel in einer halben Stunde zu umrunden war komisch.

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Bis zum nächsten Urlaub ist noch ein bißchen, dann geht's nach Borneo.

gloomy creek
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Lake tahoe California water crystal clear , breath taking view anytime of the year high in the mountains.

gloomy creek
bold cape
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Beautiful

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One of my favorite trips and hikes was Monument Valley

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worn dragon
somber patio
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The ratio of combat manual types given as rewards is greatly out of proportion. The blue manual reward quantities are too small.

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Also blitz coins. Both the blue combat manuals needed to get to level 31 and up, and blitz coins, need to be increased.
--From my alliance.

balmy kelp
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Wanted to visit Greece since my first visit to a Greek restaurant at age 18. Now I'm 66 and have cancer... I'm going in July. Yahoo.

bleak junco
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It would be cool to maybe see a black panther, werewolf or even the World Serpent from Greek mythology as marches!

patent urchin
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This feels the entirely wrong channel to talk about animals we want to see in game but since the hyperlink brought me hear..... Let's be creative. No one would ever think anything gerbil related would make it in the zombie apocalypse at all. So I say lets not make them evil when by nature they are fluffy and cute. Lets highlight marginalized sections of the population like an autistic person. Think of Tom Cullens in The Stand. Which on a sidenote have you as developers not capitalized on yet-you can pay me for the idea when your walking man skin makes a billion dollars. Lets have to do missions for this autistic person which result in getting a gerbil. Make sure you do it right and give some proceeds to charity to show you aren't money grubbers hand over fist and can do some good for the world at large. Oh and make sure that your f2p section has a realistic opportunity to get decent rewards as I am sick of random character frags I will never get sitting there when I should be able to trade them for ones I do have or need.

river elm
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Put a bull

chilly fern
river elm
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Bull March. Bull March

chilly fern
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Its nice if we get a lot feedback, we have so much nice things already we could add into our reports or into a summary to forward 🍀⚘️

forest elm
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Penguin March

river elm
patent urchin
chilly fern
# patent urchin Sorry I got on a little rant there but maybe one day someone will see the validi...

Its ok, sometimes there is a little rant needed to calm down! We all are humans and have feelings going wild sometimes. Thats why i tried to explain why this channel is right and also why we show up with themes and hope for feedback we can forward and use if we saw those themes before catching interests in suggestions and normal game talk 🤭 its more from us mods to have more details and valid reports to forward and see if we can optimize some things for us all as we all here are players and want to enjoy the game together cutefrog

river elm
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Bull March

chilly fern
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I want a zombie unicorn march cutefrog

dull matrix
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Apocalyptic Frog would be awesomeshy

steady elk
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Please please please can we get a chicken march! Either an actual chicken or even maybe the Iron Chicken from the Clangers

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golden mica
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Hydra or kraken 💪

vernal patrol
mortal shadow
steady elk
rich coral
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potato march

crisp frigate
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Please please make a cat lady march ambiance thing. Like just a bunch of cats following you.

Also a majestic zombie unicorn march skin!

💓💓

steady elk
rugged hazel
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Little vfx kittens would be pretty adorable as a trail cutefrog

crisp frigate
bold cape
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Phoenix or Viper march
Black witch cat march for Halloween

urban kettle
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I really like the black cat/witch march for Halloween

spiral condor
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A long time ago we had a tiger event I really enjoyed. Maybe we can bring it back but permanently? It could be part of the alliance territory and work on the same principles as alliance tech for alliance members and we could still visit other alliances' animals and give them kudos?

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tired epoch
mellow vector
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WE WANT RESERVOIR TOURNAMENT

latent horizon
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👆

raw fossil
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What I would like to see is the ability for at least the captain of a tower/building to be able to use a free march to top off his troops. Currently if they try to leave and come back, they not only lose super... they likely can't even get back in because the capacity shrinks as soon as they leave

lucid plume
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I send screenshots of the water war field regularly where one fort gets all the trucks and my team loses even if we have a majority for the field. Why can't the end fort be rotated with random building locations visited prior? We all know fully "random" paths aren't really random.

empty pike
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That’s why nap tower selection is so important

copper shell
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I think there shouldn’t be nap in water wars

dull matrix
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I don't like water war naps that lock us in the whole time... I need a ffa🤣

copper shell
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Yea for sure

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In higher ranks I can see now but in lower ranks come on to the death if you can’t win without nap, what are you gonna do when you get higher?

dull matrix
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As long as there is a ffa and not a 3 tower nap I am down🤣 we've definitely no napped and got denied nap and still fought our hearts out 😂

urban kettle
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Gotta keep it fun.. Hate the boring ones.. nap D+2 FFA 10 just to make sure everyone's gets points... Love the burn parties elmofire

torn ore
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I had a lot of fun in born leader. I was able to reinforce and take a turret a couple times.

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I got a sad rare weapon too

chilly fern
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Ive got a lot points to go wild in the wasteland shop cutefrog ive got the rare weapon design box III cutefrog

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Even while i joined in late and just ran some rallies on turrets 🤭

torn ore
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I was happy to get a lot of points.

hollow flicker
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I would really, really love a set up where there isn’t so much wasted space and people have to sit their bases miles and miles away from the mud.
It is so frustrating that because you have to rush to get in people just park wherever and there are so many gaps that nearly take a base

empty jetty
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I know this is only a drop in a huge bucket, but the images generated by AI that have been used for announcements lately are ugly, atrocious and cringy + AI "art" is so unethical. Would love to see the old images of our characters.

torn ore
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😅

bold cape
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🌚 🌚

bold cape
torn ore
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Took me 5 try’s to get a spot

bold cape
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I can mostly mudsit

chilly fern
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I joined late... the middle zone already had open spots then 🤭

hollow flicker
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I’ve learnt from the past and started further away from the mud edge and got in first time
It is unusual though

chilly fern
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As some left already 🤣 was pretty close to mud then

copper rock
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I turned my alarm off, rolled over, went back to sleep, and missed the whole thing.

hollow flicker
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Even if they did away with the hills on this map it would be a start

torn ore
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😂

copper rock
round otter
urban kettle
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If they won't fix auto parking ..What about putting a max march time limit of like 30 seconds no matter where you at

unkempt plover
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I try not to look at the parking or else I’d go crazy

cerulean ember
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How about having a staged start to Wasteland Conquest. Each time the event has been run so far it has been at a time that I cannot possibly make whilst holding down a full-time job. Maybe break it into battles every few hours as a prelim to the main event, like a qualifying round if you will. At the moment it is like being Geo blocked or punished for living in a certain time zone. Game is happy enough to take my money same as everyone else, yet it precludes me from the same opportunities. Kind Regards HBPB

forest mango
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I had a great time and got lots of points, but it would be nice if the parking was fixed. The way everyone parks there is so much wasted space.

sweet osprey
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Are we going to have MMA or something event one day ?

torn ore
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I e won some big prizes before. Several gift cards. But I think vouchers would be reasonable. If it was a fair amount

old olive
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I’m happy with whatever rewards, thanks

toxic wadi
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I like idea of vouchers or silver cards as rewards

outer grove
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While not specific to rewards for events, I do have a big wish around events (is this even the right place?): An in app calendar. Across different alliances, timezones, etc... we try to communicate when an event is: DoA, Sonic, Party, DR, Water Wars, Hunt Mastery Parties, etc.. whatever a leader wants to put in... it would be really cool to go to one button that showed a calendar ( in my tz ) of the events. It can even just be the R5 (or someone) filling out a quick date/time calendar on their side, which shows for everyone. This would be huge for participation, would ease coordination, and get more people involved! Thank you for the consideration.

robust fjord
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Gift cards are a nice idea in theory, but they have to be Country specific. A Google play card purchased in America wont work in Australia.

Gold or Silver in game cards would be a much easier option.

urban kettle
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Vouchers I think are a better way to go and apply to your Gold or Silver Card and actually costs them less or actually next to nothing theoretically so they can increase the amount to entice more people to actually participate

sharp wing
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I like the idea of vouchers or some of the hard to get skins or avatars. Thanks 🙂

abstract ginkgo
mellow vector
# abstract ginkgo

i think it should be a combination of sharing them amongst the state, as well as being used by those who can benefit the most from them in SVS events (which is more often than not the biggest or at the very least a lead of a building)

first come first serve generally leads to more problems than it’s worth in my experience

abstract ginkgo
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Thank you for your input❤️

lime mountain
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I've taken the time one for literally 5 minutes to reduce HQ upgrade time and get the extra 8 hrs speed up.

bold cape
# abstract ginkgo

Whip and railgun to the strongest rally leads/ captains
Coffeemaker (accelerator) to someone that will be responsible and able to share promptly with anyone needing it for an upgrade
The rest spread over the alliances that are most active in the state or rotate them through the state

abstract ginkgo
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Thank you. I appreciate your responses.

bold cape
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We set up a channel where anyone can request to borrow the coffee maker

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urban kettle
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The coffeemaker isn't the problem.. It's a small 34 holding the whip and the biggest 45 who is expected to take and hold hubs all the time gets shafted.. it's not right in my book

bold cape
urban kettle
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@robust void

mellow vector
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there’s a server tag 👀

chilly fern
mellow vector
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i had to update my app 😂

slender magnet
dusty spear
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Nice

chilly fern
mellow vector
torn ore
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First 20 people got special prizes

dusty spear
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I'm just as bad lol. In game update and that's it lol

mellow vector
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dammit now since i updated my app i can’t swipe to reply madman

torn ore
dusty spear
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Damnit, now I remembered that I never got my R5 thing despite being R5 forever 🤣

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Slackin....yep checks out🤣

chilly fern
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So for r5 role you need to talk with us more here cutefrog

dusty spear
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Totally slackin🤣

mellow vector
chilly fern
mellow vector
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it’s definitely the app itself not just the server

torn ore
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I have iOS and works fine

chilly fern
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Its app, agree... just noticed that discord has some differences in some things between ios and android

torn ore
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18.5

mellow vector
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i figured it out

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they added an additional setting and it switched my default from reply to message to show channel details

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chilly fern
dusty spear
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Figures

torn ore
chilly fern
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Oh, yeah... cool! I checked now! Mine still kept in old settings. But when others have same issue we will know whats the issue cutefrog

dusty spear
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Silver lining.

midnight lion
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All with PNS tag lol

chilly fern
midnight lion
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Im bad in those things lol

chilly fern
opaque sapphire
chilly fern
opaque sapphire
chilly fern
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Your word "Seite"

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Hahhaha, happens to me also often 🤭

craggy wigeon
torn ore
craggy wigeon
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@torn ore ty

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@torn ore I was trying to upload the new Pic for discord.but it didn't work

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This is what I'm trying to figure out how to do

torn ore
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You already did it

chilly fern
forest mango
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Looks like I
Don’t have the tag either

bold cape
forest mango
gloomy pond
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I don’t think I have that error message or a problem I got the tag 🤭

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They should say using the tag shows our level of addiction to the game 🤣

sharp wing
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Curious if there are any reward codes that currently work?? Last one was Easter I think.

bold cape
knotty valve
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Hello

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Oh how do I get sever tag?

torn ore
mental tapir
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My cell phone has been hacked

torn ore
prime smelt
acoustic fox
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One of the changes isn’t bringing back RW Tournament. 0 ⭐️

crisp frigate
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Apologies, I may have missed this somewhere, but wasn't regular water wars available during the res tourney time? Now we just have this tundra event? Will we have regular water wars available?

chilly fern
crisp frigate
fiery orbit
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Tundra looked fun, but PLEASE where can we read rules as to what is needed?

chilly fern
river elm
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Let’s talk about it? Ok well I got to sit there for over 30 minutes doing nothing because I was frozen

chilly fern
mellow nebula
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Maybe "BETA event" should have been announced?!

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Like with Expedition?!

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Problems will often arise in a game so expansive as this

chilly fern
mellow nebula
stable aspen
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If this is the planned replacement for alliance clash, can't say I'm a fan

mellow nebula
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My time slot is the final one, so I will give them the benefit of the doubt

chilly fern
mellow nebula
stable aspen
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True

chilly fern
tawdry orbit
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Well let’s see…. It was confusing as hell! And the. It got super awesome when it froze and I couldn’t do anything. All I Could do was see my alliance members talking in chat. But could not move in the event at all.

covert shadow
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This was my event screen

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mellow nebula
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As long as they match up alliances properly...I will be happy.
They still have to work on that with ResWar and Clash!

sour grove
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It doesn't work for those of us who have multiple accts in different states that start at the same time, when you only play on one device and have to hop back and forth :/ water wars were much easier to do that with!

mellow nebula
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That seems like a personal issue. I now what you are saying, but you will ultimately have to choose which account(s) to play.

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I have 2 mains, 4 alts and a bunch of farms....pick and choose my friend

unkempt plover
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So many people couldn't move, was stuck.. and couldn't get any points. waiting to revive was the worst

mellow nebula
sour grove
stable aspen
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They didn't fix. They added

chilly fern
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Im somehow not mad i felt asleep at 2am and missed the event due to that (start 3am for me)... i tried to stay awake for that event start... but my eyes didnt wanted cutefrog

unkempt plover
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you needed sleep, fella

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much more important than the game

chilly fern
mellow nebula
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My neighboring alliance experienced that...let them try to make things right.
All in all...its another free reward event

sour grove
stable aspen
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I will say one difference. If a player cannot stay the entire event. Usually through coordination with the alliance they can park in nap towers and head to bed and get their points. I also have 2 mains. I parked as best I could tonight and played the other.
I got second in the one I played but would not have got the required points in the one I didn't

unkempt plover
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i kept clicking the map expecting it to put me back to where my hq is on the event map and instead it takes me out of it to the regular map.

stable aspen
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Overall with these new events, the same issue exists. We don't get enough direction going into it.

mellow nebula
stable aspen
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Everyone is basically going " well let's see what the newest shituation is gonna be

stable aspen
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But I made it tonight

mellow nebula
small ledge
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Is it just me or did anyone else’s alliance come in 2nd and you got the 2nd place rewards and not the first place ones like was said?

stable aspen
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Yeh I think so

chilly fern
stable aspen
mellow nebula
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This is a game...it should be fun and kwerky at times.
If the reality of the whales have you bogged down and hating the game...maybe you are in the wrong alliance?

stable aspen
mellow nebula
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nope!!!!!
I am a F2P player

torn ore
mellow nebula
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Been playing 4 years and am at about 1.2 billion might

sour grove
torn ore
torn ore
stable aspen
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True or total

mellow nebula
torn ore
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If the hq is on the same account it’s not hard to switch between them. I read back a little. Did something happen to where you couldn’t

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Ah I see. Different states and switching.

mellow nebula
torn ore
stable aspen
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Here's the main problem Beware, as I mentioned earlier. There's a ton of posts here cause basically everytime a new "recurring " event is launched, there's no guidance to prepare. I know the posts are out but it never gives a real rundown. Although i will say this one was better than most. I actually expected a 1 hour doomsday and that's what it was

mellow nebula
torn ore
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Always have room

torn ore
mellow nebula
stable aspen
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Yes kazumi. And it helped. For sure. That needs to happen more often. And earlier

mellow nebula
small ledge
torn ore
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Interesting

verbal siren
# mellow nebula Hey kazumi...yes, I am

Given the biggest in the game are "only" 2.5+ true might, I highly doubt your true might is 12. You probably mean your total might is 12bill. Just curious - how much of that are taxis?

mellow nebula
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I was talking about regular might 🤣

chilly fern
torn ore
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I can try. Might not last long

bold cape
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True might

verbal siren
chilly fern
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Im curious, for those who has no stuck screen, how was the way to play in Tundra Tussle? I was so curious, but somehow my eyes dont wanted me to stay awake for event 😵‍💫

bold cape
tame oracle
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Ya it worked pretty well. Definitely a Risk style format

chilly fern
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I guess we can see this time the event as sort of beta test and being excited to test it next time again cutefrog

tame oracle
chilly fern
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Just report us all the bugs yall noticed so we can forward them before next time ⚘️

kind carbon
dusty spear
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My team and I enjoyed it. I swapped accounts, and had to tap the icon to go back into a view of the map, but, my matches stayed. Everyone that had registered was able to battle and hold buildings. So, maybe we were lucky, and bugs were very minimal and didn't affect gameplay. But, we enjoyed it.

chilly fern
dusty spear
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It definitely went better than expected lol. I don't stress bugs and glitches, I simply expect them, especially with anything new. The guides gave my team and I enough information to have a basic understanding of what we needed to do, and the event tab, was pretty thorough. So, no complaints.

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In addition, it was nice to save on diamonds and speeds before WK for once🤣

chilly fern
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Ohhh, yeah 😂 good point

raven trench
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Am I the only one who finds the mecha too hard to assemble?? and that the mecha parties are too hard to get? The shooters are still last, that's excessive!!!!

rustic pendant
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New event stinks especially cause I couldn’t do anything on all 3 of my accounts 😤

old brook
#

Can we get the system message removed from alliance chat when this is going on it's hard to chat with everyone for instructions

ancient smelt
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Tundra Tussle - Feedback!
We was forced to play another time as regular.
For the most Impression the event is annoying, not so much fun like water wars.

  • No Battle chat
  • No influence on battles, beside moving troops
  • Waiting to recover troops and move around takes to long

I think in the future, we skip this event.

echo owl
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TRASH! I couldn’t move any troops or view the map.

quaint surge
#

Didn’t like at all couldn’t scroll my screen move my troops nothing no good at all

sour grove
crisp frigate
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My rewards didn't update to tier 1. Is this because I already quick finger accepted the rewards for tier 2?

pliant shoal
#

Not bigger one but farms gonna miss it as mains will be helping the alliance

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And that hurts maybe for many of us

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And if the que gets long it's hard to get occupation of that kraken

violet saffron
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Event seemed like it was pulled out of the 80's...just move here..now move there...event really sucked and now I have the bottom 40 in my alliance gonna try and do it without help from the bigs... definitely not a fan and will be skipping it in future if it sticks around

split root
#

I bet that would be incredibly helpful

split root
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One who got stuck was actually one of our stronger players. I think if he hadn't gotten stuck, we would have taken 1st.

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As it was, we ended up in 2nd.

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But we all had a lot of fun

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And now that we have an idea of what's going on, we're coming up with strategies for the next time. 🙂

hard timber
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I liked the event, there's potential there just needs a few tweaks. I would much rather use 3 shooter marches instead of being forced to use fighters and riders

viral hawk
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Ich fand dieses Event furchtbar! 1. man kann mit den Gegnern nicht in Kontakt treten und sich kennenlernen. 2. die Wege sind schrecklich. Man kann nur klicken losschicken und warten. 3. es ist zu langweilig. 4. 40 Anmeldungen ist für kleinere Allianzen nicht machbar. 5. die Grafik ist sehr bescheiden. Was beim Reservoirkrieg toll war ist, dass man selber agieren kann, das geht bei dem Tundra Gerangel nicht. Schade. Ich hoffe nicht, dass der Reservoirkrieg völlig aus dem Programm genommen wird.

wise wyvern
mellow vector
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I think the Revenge Res costs too many days to research madman

rare fulcrum
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I understand that revenge resist was introduced because of the unforseen implications of the mecha revenge skill

Problem is like 99% of people wont unlock that for a very long time, let alone max it

My personal experience is when someone with the 80% temporary revenge resist buff hit me in VC I burnt on 1st hit

Normally I would be able to take 10+ hits from that same person.

I will still get my points and just not sit around to get hit but....

There are many players that just wait to get hit for points in valiant. Im thinking that this will make it so a lot of those people might be zeroed before getting enough points for VC rewards, I feel like putting perma 70% revenge resist into play screws over the little guy too much

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Adding to that if there is no points in getting hit then less people will stay unshielded leading to a vc points scarcity

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I would suggest adding defender revenge tech to the fortification tech tree to balance it out a bit

torn ore
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And cost the same?

hardy rock
#

What on earth is up with the amount of time for revenge res research?! 😳

rare fulcrum
# torn ore And cost the same?

Well potentially yes.

The cost of countering should be the same

Dont know how it interacts currently it doesnt need to be extra revenge it could be revenge resist pierce that renders revenge resist less effective by a %

Currently it seems that revenge resist is apllied linearly to revenge and with tech + temp items we could reach over 100% resist

I have seen that people without revenge researched can get 0 kills sometimes when the gap is big enough between the 2 accounts in battle

I just dont want this to break Valiant

pine heart
#
  1. Mecha modules can now be equipped once your Mecha reaches Lv.1.

This was booty. They reduced the effectiveness/power bc adding 2x lvl 6 apex didn't allow me to pass 1 level & didn't even boost my kills by 1. I'm not a fan.

thorny cloak
real epoch
rare fulcrum
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It becomes a problem imo if revenge resist makes it so attacking small/medium players in vc doesnt give them any kills and based on that no points

real epoch
#

It ends up becoming a group event with super rally attacks

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I would like to think it is like Shields which are not stackable

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Hopefully they have enough foresight to give it a cap

urban kettle
#

Omg the days for research and the RSS .. bad enough having to go back to do them but then more Protons Smack_Face

bold cape
bold cape
rugged hazel
#

1 minute rallies cutefrog cutefrog cutefrog

mellow vector
rare fulcrum
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assuming the temp items stack with permanent buffs like most other things in the game

bold cape
mellow vector
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but if it does stack that’s a potential 150% revenge res boost madman

bold cape
mellow vector
#

i wonder what 150% would do. reverse revenge?

bold cape
#

I’m asking for confirmation

mellow vector
#

guaranteed extra kills 😂

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while we’re here diona is useful cutefrog

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rustic dew
#

so this new revenge res research is completely overpowered? do i understand it right ?

supple tinsel
#

I'm shocked how well you know your players perception of pns by releasing a new cash worshipping Russian hero from Dubai to celebrate your 5th birthday. Bravo Bravo BRAVO 😘💪💪

bold cape
bold cape
mellow vector
#

🤣🤣🤣

bold cape
#

😊 😊 😊

rustic dew
bold cape
rustic dew
#

thx

rare fulcrum
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80% revenge resist item on its own changed my wall defense from formidable to a joke so I would say that giving up to 70 % perma revenge resist as a buff is overpowered though it does cost a lot I would probably want it to cost more if anything 🌚

bold cape
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Those players that will max it out fast would zero me anyway 😂

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I’m excited for our future super rallies

rare fulcrum
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I mean with the 80% revenge item I burnt on 1st hit

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no bueno

bold cape
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The damage doesn’t change, but yes you’ll have a loss sooner

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For a group that mostly hunts in packs and rallies it’s an awesome improvement

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Plus hub rallies etc.

rare fulcrum
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in both cases I lost about 30% of my wall so in the 2nd instance I lost

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just saying the impact of this on valiant is far reaching

bold cape
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Always an upside and downside with updates

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Upside, killing a (frozen) player with rallies will be faster

paper ice
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Unless the frozen player kills me first🤣

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They got 5 minutes before we do damage

bold cape
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If I don’t end up burning in VC it was boring

bold cape
paper ice
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Well you know me, I just wake up on fire and don't play anyway, but what he said makes my relos extra safe

bold cape
paper ice
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Wish I could!🤣

rare fulcrum
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downside if said frozen player is a big with the same resist tech he can zero all rally filliers no problem

bold cape
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So, same as usual 😂

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We zero all rally fillers too

rugged hazel
bold cape
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Positive and negative with the update

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Just depends on how you look at it

rare fulcrum
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I really dont see the positive on the revenge resist but I am happy about being a nuka account again so there's that

bold cape
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Hub rallies, definitely a positive defending our state

rare fulcrum
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for sure but it still feels like an improper band aid because they made revenge too op with mecha

bold cape
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We can agree to disagree on this new tech

rugged hazel
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Honestly I expect the pendalum to swing a couple more times before they get the revenge changes right.

bold cape
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For sure

rugged hazel
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Why they didn't take revenge diminishing returns into account for tier differences on the original mech revenge bonus I'll never know

bold cape
bold cape
bold cape
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Poor opponents

rugged hazel
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At the least it will make VC more interesting!

bold cape
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It needs something freshhhh

rugged hazel
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like 1 min rallies!

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ooh or launch when full!

rare fulcrum
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Kyle is staying at 34 for the time being

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but Im excited for the new bracket hopefully I dont get closed looper 👀

bold cape
rare fulcrum
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haven't seen all that many 34s make the jump yet they probably want to see how it goes 1st lol

bold cape
rugged hazel
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So much core investment needed if making the jump

rare fulcrum
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ye Im at 10 apex cores sans the jump had holosfor 5 when I made the jump

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but honestly the rewards from mecha quests have made the jump worth wile already new nuka bracket is icing

bold cape
rare fulcrum
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I guess its less rewarding if you dont do the mecha card cause less refreshes probably dont give that many good quests

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mostly I think that its not beneficial to stay below 35 anymore unless you plan to never upgrade

left anchor
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What is bizarre poster, what's needed? 🤭 so we get prepared

bold cape
paper ice
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I hope its like the Christmas trees! But only for 2 days!

dawn cedar
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Anyone else's state not have Hero this week? S774 here

rugged hazel
dawn cedar
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Thanks, wasn't sure where all to look, guess my "search" was too specific lol

still current
rugged hazel
mild copper
sour eagle
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Kazumi told me to come start a fight in this channel

torn ore
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So since your first to arrive. What kind of improvement did you expect? Or would like to see

sour eagle
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Id be good with it just going back to normal tbh. I think the ranking system was fine. And it allowed people to get a handful of frags every week with little investment

torn ore
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Yeah. I enjoyed trying to rank and seeing how high I could go

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I was actually expecting something like the quests we get in intel and shovels and pinball type stuff

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I was very wrong

sour eagle
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Maybe increase the top end without screwing over the ones in the 10-50% range

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Whatever they do tho, just stop where they did and don’t roll it out to any newer states 😂

torn ore
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lol. No promises

keen creek
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I honestly don’t think it’s cool. I understand the game needs to somehow generate an income but this is just ridiculous. Can we please go back to the way it was before.

torn ore
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Agree

rare fulcrum
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They also removed some of the smaller rewards like blitz tickets which will in little to no time reduce the quality of life for f2p

torn ore
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Removed what?

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Oh lol

rare fulcrum
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In phase rewards

torn ore
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For the states over 700?

rare fulcrum
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No in old states
Usually the 2nd reward there would be some blitz tickets

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torn ore
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Ah I see

rare fulcrum
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You cant even buy blitz for diamonds except in the diamond shop once a month

torn ore
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Wrote it in

rare fulcrum
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So forcing people who are generally already low on hero books to do manual campaign or never finish off heroes

left herald
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Plz bring back the old ranking system ... were 700h finished the new development event

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Now there is no way of getting lora&jessi frags

snow talon
left anchor
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Any change that would bring the number of natural frags same as before would work. This can be easily done by just reintroducing the daily global ranking on top of the current system, so players would still get the additional frags based on general rankings. And besides that, the value gifts amd packs can stay, for those who want to grow faster

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Spenders or non spenders we plan our long term strategy based on what the game gives us naturally, then eventually plan the spending accordingly. It's unfair that the game suddenly cuts the rewards so drastically, forcing us to spend if we want the same pace as before. This is not the way to motivate people to spend more, just the opposite

zenith lantern
lean oak
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I can understand trying to change things up, but why go backwards? The new event requires more points for less frags, and it blocks us from completing current achievements. I say just go back to the old event style and scrap this new one all together. We are already bombarded with shops and passes in every event now, we don't need one more asking for our money. Those that spend will spend, those that don't spend won't. Honestly, the more screens you add in the game that ask me to unlock them with money makes me want to spend less.

elder lantern
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It's a headbanger for free players
No Blitz cpins
Reduction in other rewards like speedups, nova points
No speed up for the phase 1, which can be obtained in current old schedule
And most importantly less frags compared to the current one

obtuse helm
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You guys are killing this game with your greed. I will no longer spend a penny on it

restive onyx
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To sum it up: without global ranking there's no sense in doing anything on non ACE weeks at all. Showdown tasks aside.

elder lantern
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Here I'm putting side by side comparison
In current System with almost 1.5M points I can be able to get upto 6 Ace level 3 Cards
But with new system there's no chance to getting it

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Even though you complete phase 1 in new schedule you just get 2 frags
But with current old schedule you can be in 75-100% bracket and still got 2 another frags total 4 frags

So in conclusion it's good for spendors
But free players it's going backwards 😔

torn ore
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Yeah

lean oak
elder lantern
barren bear
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(Phew, finally finished the post :D)
I think the new style is not so bad, just need to make the required points 50% less.
Rewards are almost the same (excluding the blitz tickets, which must be added 100%)
The paid part also needs improvement. Currently it's something like pay $50 to get rewards for $60.... If they up the rewards value to $80+, I think it may be okay

The biggest problem of this upgrade is not the rewards, but the points required to get the rewards.

Also may be a good idea to make more phases, because the gap between the frag rewards the phases is HUGE

Phases can be something like:
Phase 1: 2 x Hero 2 frags (400k points)
Phase 2: 2 x Hero 3 frags (similar to current top 100% which requires 640k points)
Phase 3: 2 x Hero 3 frags (similar to current top 50% -> 1m points)
Phase 4: 4 x Hero 3 frags (similar to current top 10% -> 1.5m points)
Phase 5: 4 x Hero 3 frags (similar to current top 2% -> 3,5m points)
Phase 6: 4 x Hero 3 frags + 2 solar panels (similar to current top 1% -> 5m points)

left anchor
# lean oak I can understand trying to change things up, but why go backwards? The new even...

This is an important point, that could be obvious for us players but it isn't for them. The only way to motivate us to spend more is to give us MORE, not less. If we see we could get much more with more spending, we will probably spend on that. On the contrary, if we see things are too expensive, or entirely based on heavy spending to improve them, we will skip them.

It's not like we see things suddenly more expensive and we'll say "oh, then I have to spend more". We will say "forget it". Whereas, those times where I see something really good can come up with a little more spending, I do that.

Give us more, reward us, and you'll make a community happy to play. And willing to invest on it.

dawn nebula
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As a sign of protest to see for the developers of PnS and a sign of loyalty amongst players , it would be awesome if we had a skinfree day in all the states. F.e. Friday after Reset everybody removes their HQ, March, Ambience etc skins. As a bonus PnS would realize what this game would look like when players wouldn‘t spend money.

left anchor
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Much better stop spending 😎 I didn't even buy the 1$ joy coin pack as usual today. Too disenhearted 🙄

dawn nebula
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Players can’t see if other players stop spending, except in their own alliance. I’m thinking a visible action could shake things/players op a little bit 😄

left anchor
hearty apex
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I haven't scrolled through the conversation yet but how are we meant to achieve the achievements in the challenger section of achievements now
How can I rank in any of these without a ranking system

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I have been hoarding boxes for months for the achievements

torn ore
high mauve
torn ore
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There’s a lot going on with all this at this point

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Trying to focus on getting these events worked out in our favor

abstract gull
left anchor
# abstract gull What really gets their attention are game review edits in the Apple/Play store a...

Yeah sunk cost fallacy is what prevents us to quit after the time/money we invested. But if those players lose motivation, they'll just keep playing but without spending. I know a lot of players with huge accounts and a clear determination not to spend a cent more on this, they just stay because of the people they met.

That's not the common goal here. The common goal for us and the game is keep the community still happy to play, so they will still play more and be willing to go on. You do that by rewarding them, not by suddenly cutting what they get 🙄

onyx yacht
# abstract gull What really gets their attention are game review edits in the Apple/Play store a...

I've seen players that just up and quit playing instead of going through everything to have their account removed.
I'm f2p, now yeah I have spent some in my over 4 years on the game but need to have it first in order to spend which some of us don't. They are making everything tougher for those of us that try the best we can because of not having the ability to spend money on the game, perfect example is I have sanctuary skins for both my accounts from using about 240 shovels during that event after saving up over 300, tried for ambiance the same way but didn't even get all the rewards to unlock the top with over 300 shovels

abstract gull
lusty token
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Complaining does nothing if we keep spending. Whats next, maybe you will have to pay a fee to collect your free rewards. How stupid does that sound but it’s true. I hope PNS gets so greedy that they institute a daily log in fee, chat fee, sound effect fee and help fee.
This game isnt about us, and neither are the game updates. I used to enjoy playing. If anyone is interested in contacting me please find me in candy crush lolol

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Alot of my peeps say the game is about the social aspect. Wake up almost every game now has a chat bar or some kind of social interaction available

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Btw bring back the old point system this new one is a downgrade

quasi shell
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Usually try to do 4 personal hero quests for SD (to get top 10% rank and 10 frags; 8 for Twins). Did 3 and realized the 3rd gave no real reward in Hero Upgrade event. In fact 2-5M points (3rd, 4th and 5th hero quest) gave no reward in Hero Event. 2 frag with 0 for Twins is really no reward at all. They've killed the Twins for many. If the goal was to make us think that the Devs are planning to end PNS and get us to stop spending, then probably successful. Adding a $50 spend option to daily events that had $0 option before makes me think this is so far over the top that end of pns has been decided. We'll see.

novel geyser
# barren bear (Phew, finally finished the post :D) I think the new style is not so bad, just n...

The rewards are are absolutely not the same. Someone has already shown a comparison. Phase 1 of this new version roughly aligns with the full day of rewards from the preferred version - it’s a significant loss of all items. The safe rss is also a problem, even if it allows you to chose the same rss that was given previously. There is also a loss of access to the cards. Phase 2 and 3 line up, very poorly, with the personal ranking portion. At 1.75 million points under the preferred system you could finish the day and get 2 cards without the twins and get lowest personal and get 2 cards with the twins. This is now not possible. You get 4 cards with the twins at 6 million points in hero day, which previously would have been more like 8 cards. So no, the rewards are not comparable.

boreal wolf
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This update is absolutely horrible. It shows that the developers only want to make more money. It's put Lora & Jessie behind a paywall that leaves most common players behind. Updates should make the game easier for players rather than harder. My friends all agree: 1) we don't want to participate in these events and 2) we don't want to buy ANY boxes if this is the way the events are going to be run from now on. And on top of that, a number of them are saying "this game is trying to make me quit". Rewards need to be significantly fixed to change this trend. And I can only hope you can fix it quickly enough and well enough to stop them from leaving.

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Want concrete suggestions on what to do to fix this?
Look at the rewards from the old event. What do you get at 100% range? Now put that into your new system and get it all to fit into Phase 1 of your new system.

chilly fern
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To get suggestions we can forward ⚘️

abstract gull
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Math is simple. 400 percent increase in difficulty of acquiring frags for four critical heroes. We have a very good reason to be disappointed.

maiden spoke
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How about make the rewards worth more to us. The "Ace hero II" and "Ace hero III" has had the same heros for a very long time. So many of us already have those heros fully upgraded and we no longer need those cards. PNS keeps adding heros to the game and we want to get the new heros but have hardly no way to get them. Suggest adding some newer heros to those cards so we would want to participate in events that give them.

The point requirements for the new event is completely unreasonable. The points requirements should be half what they are now at least.

Also the "phase packs" is just pure greed. We are already spending to get the points either remove the premium phase completely or make it a one time purchase of "9.99" max to unlock all 3 phases

wise mason
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Some deductions from what was posted by PNS on the change to the might week events.

Key Changes:
I. Enhanced Point Rewards
a. Point Reward rounds have increased from one to three, with higher Point limits for each theme (check the new event page for details)
b. The first round's Point limit and Point gain rate (along with Speedup Items, Ace Hero II, and Diamond amounts) remain the same. (Why do I have to buy Ace Hero IV at this stage)
c. The second and third rounds offer rewards such as Advanced Material Choice Chests, Solar Panels (where?), and Ace Heroes.

II. New Bonus Rewards
Each round now features Bonus Rewards, granting (not granted need to buy) substantial rewards to Commanders who reach the required Point thresholds.

III. Streamlined Item Rewards
To reward more players, Rank Rewards have been removed. More rewards are now accessible by earning Points, lowering the requirement to get the best rewards (Increased the requirement substantially).

abstract gull
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To make it equal Ace Commander, all days in the week would contribute to all three stages. There would not be a new set of stages each day.

Ace commander used to be harder. Obsidian and Wali frags were harder to get because the point requirements were higher and it included the entire week. However, rider-focused players have a march speed advantage.

Improve Might is now several times more difficult than Ace Commander.
Edit: Or maybe not. Maybe they'll do the same to AC and tell us it is optimization for state balance. 😆

south zenith
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Has anyone raised the topic to balance us fighters yet or are we still irrelevant 🤔 🤣. #askingforafriend

brittle bane
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It's not just Hero upgrade, it's the entire week it seems. I have accounts in multiple states and it's sad when accounts in older states are having to basically buy their rewards and are earning less points for doing 3x the work. I'm guessing I'm not alone in seeing the differences between the older state and newer state rewards. When I completed 3 personal hero quests in an older state and couldn't event hit phase 2 to get a single twin frag but my account in a newer state got 4 of them for doing half the work then I start to assume the game is either punishing older players for their loyalty or trying to force me to fly forward.
I love the idea of the IV ave frag, but I'm so upset at this roll out I won't buy one. The smarter thing would have been to put in their new tiered system (with lower point requirements cause these are impossible) but leave the personal ranking in place. People will still buy the IV frags cause those are ultimately an improvement but they don't lose the benefits of the personal ranking. Just a suggestion to consider. Game gets it money but players don't lose out.

lunar jetty
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I saw a comment in the game suggestions channel, suggesting that the people who invented these off week 'improvements' should be fired. I think it's fair to say I agree.

left anchor
# lunar jetty I saw a comment in the game suggestions channel, suggesting that the people who ...

I was thinking about that earlier today. I imagine the board putting pressure to product developers, asking to increase the revenue more and more every month. After they had any kind of ideas, seeing that it wasn't enough, they come up with a new direction, let's progressively cut all free rewards so everything will have a cost. They roll out, half baseline leaves, the other half complains. Who's fault is it, the product developer or the board putting pressure? Who can fire the board? 🤣

(Based on a true story)

lunar jetty
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The quality of this idea makes me hope it was an unpaid intern, not the board. But nothing would surprise me. 😂

bold cape
south zenith
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Im 4 years in and im seeing brand new accounts with similarities to my account in their infancy and I'm a spender. The game has never been balanced unfortunately. Seems when things work someone wants to change it. Dont try fix something that doesnt need fixing and bring back might Fridays! Those where the days

dull matrix
abstract gull
bold cape
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Anyone have a ss of the phase rewards?

elder lantern
bold cape
elder lantern
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elder lantern
left anchor
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Damn, there were so many rewards 🙄

bold cape
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I iced my wrist…

bold cape
left anchor
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I think there were nova and rss also in the personal rank rewards

left anchor
long sable
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So when are we going to get a rework of the new events. It’s not even worth wasting the materials required for the pitiful rewards on this point system. 2 frags for 35 days worth of speed ups, 6 frags for 139 days worth of speed ups, and 14 frags for 278 days worth of speed ups. At this rate you would need to save up for a month to complete all three phases.

bold cape
whole topaz
onyx yacht
onyx yacht
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The game as a whole needs a complete overhaul for events and rewards. Weeks I do Ace there are phases I end top 10% or 5% for a few Commander II cards just to the end the week 38% or inside the top 50% for minimum Commander III cards. Funny how I have Wali +6 on main and he has been there for awhile but Lora & Jessie was only +5 when I got Wali +6 and now Lora & Jessie +8 because it was easier to get hero III cards

bold cape
nocturne cairn
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After recent experience with changes, I'd rather not ask to change other events.

oblique kindle
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The more time goes on the more it feels like 37Games is trying harder and harder to squeeze blood from a stone.

onyx yacht
oblique kindle
# onyx yacht For some of us we don't have it to be able to spend it so they are making change...

And that’s the thing. I’m a rider player who spends a bit and I already have L&J and Lady M to +8, so I’ll be fine. Getting Phoenix and Zephyr to +8 aren’t all that important to me personally. But it’s devastating to my friends who don’t spend much or at all AND are shooter or fighter focused, but the only way I have to make my displeasure known (besides ranting here) is cutting off spending.

Besides, this genuinely isn’t a good enough game without the social aspect. If all my friends decide to quit, I won’t be spending anymore here anyway.

ornate dust
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And what about all the rss and speeds we’ve already wasted? Bet we’ll get “compensation” that doesn’t come close to what we used to get. What a slap in the face to the majority of players

oblique kindle
lusty token
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2 hours lololol

onyx yacht
whole topaz
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Ive been playing 5 years but this last terrible change may be my last im over it

hardy berry
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👆🏼

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This is how I feel

bold cape
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We will inform everyone ASAP once we get an update

astral granite
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Gear 1.5m 7.5m 31.5m
Core 1.5m 7.5m 31.5mmildpanic2

torn ore
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You came to the right place moggy

astral granite
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Oops

rugged hazel
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Just a mere 315 holos, a quick quest indeed

torn ore
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I have 31 sims

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So close

nova haven
bold cape
whole topaz
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Everytime the change its negative for the players

twin dune
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This last update is trash. Straight up cash grab that has me considering leaving the game. It hasn't been enjoyable for a long time but now feels like an obligation because of all the money I have invested. Getting very close to the point of not being worth it anymore.

torn ore
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Yeah. We’re reporting everything to upper management as you guys talk

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We will report if we get news

boreal wolf
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With the addition of AI Hub, I finally felt like Friday events were doable. I dread seeing the new requirements for Friday.

Every day is worse than the one before. Updates should provide upgrades to the game, not downgrades. Keep the paid side bar if you must, but give us the rewards we used to be able to get.

ornate dust
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I recommend that everyone don’t use bagged items for these events. Don’t participate and save until it’s fixed

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That’s my plan for this crap. If enough do that, maybe they’ll get a clue

torn ore
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I agree

bold cape
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I’d save everything until we hear something

modern quarry
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I'm even holding back on using Joy Coins until ths gets fixed

void oak
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Rolling it out during SD week was the dumbest move ever. How do I tell my team to hold onto their stuff in bag right now when my ftp and light spenders need to use it for quests 😒

bold cape
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Help quests & Mystery shop are some alternatives

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Or lower quota until we hear something

bold cape
abstract gull
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I'll say this for them. They really don't like us changing our Google Play store reviews to one star and warning people about the 5th anniversery update. They responded to me within hours and it wasn't the usual bot response.

This is the kind of corporate behavior seen when a business is looking for buyers. Temporarily maximize profit at any cost. Most handheld game companies believe the natural lifespan of a popular game is five years, then it is all downhill from there. They may be looking to get out and buy into a newer game. Just speculation, but it wouldn't be uncommon.

bold cape
abstract gull
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Not exactly sure how me telling my personal experience constitutes a rumor, but you're the boss.

dull matrix
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so ummmm off weeks dead to me... back to throwing chanclas... I thought there'd be a way to adjust at this style but it just keeps getting insane... they'd need to cut points down and add alotta cards to make it worth... and even look back at the old style and put those rewards back in...idk how this make more money than the rank

time to plan ways to grow the heros without off week for now

torn ore
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Ok

left anchor
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1.5m points for curio&core phase 1 . It was already hard with 1m before the update 🙄

modest atlas
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absolute joke of an update, yet again pushing away the little people and minimal spenders. where are the blitz tokens? Its now twice as hard to get nanotubes from these upgrade events, a resource that was hard enough to get beforehand. Massively annoyed! and doesn't look like I am the only one

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Not to mention the Ace Hero III cards. Cant get now with anywhere near what we were using before. It's like the devs want the non spenders/minimal spenders to quit. The minimal spenders spending all adds up. Don't they realise this? And even the big spenders want a community of people that they interact with. It really seems like they are trying to kill the game of on purpose at times. Shocking!

soft loom
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I'll chime in as well. The rewards for this weeks events (hero/gear/etc...) are horrible. As ive seen said, and have commented in my alliance, a complete cash grab. Although whod be tempted to buy the 'value gifts' for each phase is beyond me.

torn ore
high mauve
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If the update of turning off week frags into hardcore mode ruined your showdown plans.

Don’t forget break loose is coming up and you can score some Leah frags by doing quests that match up with it.

elder lantern
abstract gull
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The new announcement is nice, but really doesnt tell us much more than they know we are disappointed and maybe they'll make more changes.

The part that bothers me the most is them still trying to tell us it was an "enhancement." Quadrupling the difficulty of acquiring old game content is not an enhancement by anyone's standards. Word games.

crystal dune
# abstract gull The new announcement is nice, but really doesnt tell us much more than they know...

Yep. Feels like we've heard this all before, but whatever they change will only be a slight alteration that doesn't really amount to anything.

Everyone wants the old system back. They could add things like more solar panels, etc for those who need them (honestly, how hard is it to just add an extra reward to an existing tier?). They can still introduce their purchase version alongside the old system. Just rearrange the graphics and add another tab or something.

lusty token
abstract gull
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I will never believe they didn't fully expect the outrage. People running a big game company are smarter than that. I won't say why they would do this because I could be accused of starting a rumor. However, anyone who has read The Art Of The Deal would draw a certain conclusion.

torn ore
hazy mural
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Gift code not accepting. Anyone else notice?

lusty token
mellow vector
torn ore
hazy mural
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Gift code worked this time. Not sure if it was an IOS glitch or something else. Thanks.

fresh vessel
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Did pns bother to do the math on the requirements for reaching the phase levels? Because they are absolutely rediclious! And actually made rewards harder . I encourage everyone not to spend a dime until the new updates are changed!

lusty token
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Agree Rooster, it’s actually nice not to have spent anything in the last 2 days lol. I was able to afford a slurpee and 2 hotdogs this morning 🤣

lean oak
# abstract gull The new announcement is nice, but really doesnt tell us much more than they know...

This is so much of the issue. They tell us we are getting these great improvements. That we are getting more rewards and they are easier to get... when it is the exact opposite and they think we won't be able to tell the difference? Either they believe we are a bunch of buffoons, or that we are a bunch of children simply wielding Mommy or Daddy's credit cards and don't care that we have to pay for the same rewards we could earn previously. I had committed to getting the Constellation Curios, because it is nice to be able to get an ambience like that by spending money over time rather than having to drop a bunch of money all at once. I have purchased every single one so far, but after this update, I am strongly considering not even completing the constellation curios, which is such a shame.

daring smelt
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"However, we recognize that some of these changes have not fully met your expectations"

🤣

bold cape
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minor latch
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Thanks to this update I started to think about retirement after 3 years. If you are greedy you will get nothing.

bold cape
dull matrix
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I am still worried their intentions on which way they will be going with that from our feedback frogcoffee

bold cape
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Hopefully we will know the changes soon

bold cape
narrow flax
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It really seems like with every update this game has just become pay to play. I have spent money on this game.. A lot... when it was fun. With every "update" it just feels more and more like you can have a penny or spend to get a dollar. Most games kind of follow a progression. Make new items premium for people willing to spend, then at some point make them much more available for all. PNS used to do this... but now it feels like its only able to progress if you spend and spend big. Plus The Golden Era skin and Big Spender Anniversary skin just feel like a insult and really say that the devs don't care about the players... just the money they spend. Find the balance.

elder lantern
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Btw
Here is the comparison for today's event,
With 3 million in old schedule i can get 6 frags
But in new there's no chance
Even double points i.e. 6m there's no chance of getting a damn single frag

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abstract gull
# elder lantern I just hope that they don't do like alliance trials After much protest and hat...

I haven't participated in IM since the first night for the get heroes showdown quest. I saw the progress bar go past six and just keep going. That's when I realized something had seriously changed.

I won't spend on IM again until it is fixed. Beyond the obvious disappointment in the change's negative impact, I was discouraged because I believe we were misled. It sounded like they were making event changes in older states to balance state power. Since I returned to 631 about a year ago, the state has lost five alliances. All flew to newer states for arena advantages and troop chips. 631 has just a few alliances left hanging on and our WK ranking is tanking.

IMO, the changes made to older states are the opposite of enhancements. They are state killers. I haven't submitted my request to delete my account yet, but I am seriously considering it. This is just the latest change I hate. Tundra Tussle is a buggy, screen-freezing disaster that hurts farm accounts as a replacement to three-team res war. TT is mini Doom but with more bugs. Doom was weeks of headache for far less rewards than a single Firefly event. The game just has too many events now. It's like a second job. And then this week's IM face slap? The fun ratio is bottoming out for me.

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Absolutely ridiculous the changes that have been made, I’ve been playing 4+ years now, not a huge spender but spent daily since I started
I now refuse to spend last few months and strongly considering leaving the game
Seems they have forgotten all the players that have made the game, not just the few elite spenders… so we are made to feel we are no longer wanted or needed in the game as the game progresses

bold cape
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Hopefully we will have some details soon

wraith tree
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I've played for 4 years. Daily player, and this game gets worse with every update. Stopped spending months ago as it's not even worth the entertainment anymore. It's all time/money spent for nothing. I started HQ 41 and not even excited about it.

small drum
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Over 4 years into this game the only reason I stick around is the people friends I have made.
But I’m at the point just hang it up and just friend everyone on FB.
Not one more dime will be spent on this endless hole! I think it might be time to go back to counsel gaming, buy game once cry once. lol maybe just replay all the Zelda’s and tomb raiders. 🤔🤔🤔🤔
new updates is a joke and slap in the face

ornate dust
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It’s amazing that nothing has been done yet. The only answer is that pns is evaluating the effect on their bottom dollar. Apparently it hasn’t been enough for them to care yet. Come on people. Stop spending

dull matrix
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These things take time

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torn ore
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I don’t expect a patch this week.

elder lantern
# abstract gull I haven't participated in IM since the first night for the get heroes showdown q...

100% agree with you.
In old events like AC/RW , you still have a chance to get those water war points but With this new Event TT that chance is gone too.

I'm totally free player
Been playing this for almost 2 years and haven't spend a single penny in this game.
The things i got from the store is that I purchased through vouchers that I got as promotion rewards through my link.
So basically I haven't spend my OWN penny.

abstract gull
elder lantern
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Today's (Thursday's) side by side comparison
With 2 million in old schedule, I can be in top 30q and can get 6 frags
While in new not a chance
You need nearly 3.5x + points to get 4 frags

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ornate dust
novel geyser
left anchor
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I think I wasn't here when the alliance trial change happened, did it give more diamonds before? Now it's still the event that gives most diamonds, I get more than 10k diamonds every time

elder lantern
elder lantern
novel geyser
left anchor
elder lantern
left anchor
# elder lantern Yeah but at the cost of lot of stamina

Only if you select a difficulty way higher than what you solo. I select a difficulty high enough so I can solo until level 23-25, so I get 7-8 frags with a part of the stam I produce daily. Perfect frags are much scarcer than diamonds, I'm happy with that

elder lantern
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From my estimation,
If you can beat zombie liar 45, then you can easily beat upto 15 levels in difficulty level 10
Then you need to do rallies
So imagine how much stamina that costs
Plus PnS puts limit on hunt mastery, so even with hunt mastery you can do only 10 levels of firefly
Regardless of you go for solo or go for rally

left anchor
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I solo 45. I select difficulty 9 I think, I solo up to lev23 if I remember well. It's 5 stam if you solo, right? So 115 stam solo + 15×7=105, with around 220 stam (less than what you produce in one day) you get 7 perfect frags. I wish it was more often 🙂

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If you select one level higher, you get just one perfect frag more and probably you need 100 stam more than before. That starts to be less convenient

elder lantern
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Now imagine, how many liars you can do with that stamina with hunt mastery
And compare all boxes you got plus some 1 or 2 frags of those three heroes (
if you did higher level liar probably 51/52+)

left anchor
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8 lairs, so some nova, promoters, and maybe 1 or 2 hero choice cards 👀 so you think the stam you use for those perfect frags is wasted? 😢

elder lantern
left anchor
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Ok, I guess each of us does the math giving value to what matters most 🙂 I understand why someone can dislike fireflies. I learned to like it, I noticed that perfect frags was the thing I spent most in the past. Hero choice are more or less irrelevant for me now 🤣

novel geyser
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A lot of people won’t step down a level on Fireflies though. I’ve been trying for months to get some people to stop doing 9 or 10. They need to do 7 or 8. It puts a lot of pressure on our bigs to help them and they seem to not care. Personally, I think we should let them fail.

elder lantern
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So now consider this
You do daily 7 to 10 liars with HM and save all those boxes for one week or two weeks based on your week preference
And open it once on days like Wednesday off Ace week or on Saturday Ace week, imagine how many points you can get for that day event

left anchor
narrow flax
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I hate the firefly event. I end up spending hours with people messaging me to help them clear those last 5 to 10 levels.

elder lantern
left anchor
dull matrix
left anchor
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My scarlett cries, I need perfect frags so bad 😢 and after her, there is ichiro, and after him, ironclaw. I think I still need 3000 perfect frags to reach my goals 🤣

elder lantern
dull matrix
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I am doing ironclaw to plus 4 so I'll gladly waste all the stam for all the perfects lol

left anchor
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For him I need 3400 👀

elder lantern
elder lantern
left anchor
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But it's so important to advance him 😢 and if you don't spend 100$ per week, you have only timed tavern, which means 10 frags once per month? It takes forever

left anchor
elder lantern
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Ohh 😬

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Mine is still at +2 🤣🤣🤣

left anchor
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Next suggestion I'll put after this mess is to give us more ways to get him 🙄

dull matrix
elder lantern
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But I'm giving priority to scarlett because i already have epic for her

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Scarlett is still at +3

left anchor
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Also because of the x1/x4 difference 😝

elder lantern
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Updated comparison for Today (Thursday's)
With 2.9m, I'm about to get 8 frags while in new schedule that's fairy tale dream 😂🤣
You'll need approx 2.6x points to get Just half of the frags you got in old one

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left anchor
novel geyser
dull matrix
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I do agree with hating safe rss

novel geyser
dull matrix
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That's what I hated seeing in this new off weekwhatsgoingon at least let me transfer it

novel geyser
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Oh I hated that we aren’t getting any rewards.

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I’ve already cut my spending down to maybe 1% of what it was. The only thing left for me to do is quit.

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I’m just looking for a new game I can play with all my friends. 🤣

dull matrix
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This off week was a kick in the stomach and the week I planned to plus 6 my phoenixwhatsgoingon

novel geyser
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Oh no

dull matrix
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I had a stash that could of easily gotten the 30 frags I need

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But not this new style

novel geyser
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I’m working on Zephyr in my shooter and Phoenix and Twins in my fighter still, I think. I’m worried Ace is next.

dull matrix
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I'll be real the only good thing about the last patch is somehow kicking me up with hq40-45 bracket I can rank again which was so unexpected

novel geyser
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Oh that’s good!

dull matrix
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It was only 79th place but I'll take it🤣

left anchor
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Not many knows, but PnS is actually my side chick 🤣

novel geyser
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I dropped everything for PNS. I’ve already let friends know if this isn’t rolled back I’m dropping accounts. I might stick around in my oldest account for awhile but I’m not logging into a game to chat with people when I can chat with them on discord or text with them.

left anchor
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I have to say, half of the people I met on PNS were terrible 🤣 the other half, most of them were boring. I found good people lately and I'm happy for that, luckily they are on discord too

bold cape
left anchor
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Needs are the best 🤣 the worst is bullies 🥲

narrow flax
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Have you ever stopped to count just how absurdly many times we are prompted to buy stuff in PNS now? When I started playing 4 years ago (back when the game was fun) we had a mall where we made choices to buy things if we wanted. Now.. “Hey wanna buy something” seems to be put in our faces every few seconds.

Starting with log in.
“Hey, buy something?” as soon as you log in.
SIm Training - “Hey, buy something?”
Sim Training - “You sure you don’t want to buy something?”
Prison Trial - “Need a little help? You could buy something.”
Lose in Arena - “You could be stronger if you buy something."
Supply depot - “Want triple resources? Only 9.99.”
Daily boxes - “ All finished.. Oh wait.. Buy something.:
And then theres the Events
The Top up event,
The Doomfest events
Showdown with its buy 15 things popping up every 3rd refresh
Run out of Diamonds for speed ups? “You can buy more in the mall. Let me take you there.”
And every other event now is 100% impossible to complete if you don’t buy the next tier.
And first tier rewards are nearly not worth clicking on when you get 500 1* enhance material but need 4,800,000 to go up to the next level. 0.0104%, only 9,600 clicks at that pace.
This does not include all the little top up icons all over the place and I am sure I have missed a few in here. The point is… it is A LOT.

When was the last time PNS did anything that didn’t cost the player to participate in?
Cores? The Mecha are pretty useless if you are FTP. You can save items for a year and not rank in an event to get commander achievements. I would say most of the players who have stuck with this game for so long do it because of the friends we have made. I know I do.
I now play several accounts… 3 of which are from friends who left the game because its just gotten too expensive to keep up with anything any more. When you don’t progress the game gets stale. Its not a game anymore. Its a “Hey, buy something?” prompt which is sad. It could still be a fun game if the developers didn’t turn it into a money pit.

nocturne cairn
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Is Diamond expert in old or new format?

torn ore
nocturne cairn
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Thank you.

maiden hollow
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Change it back. All you did was go money hungry yet again on an event ,you claim you increased the rewards ,but you only increased how much one should spend to get such rewards. It's a ridiculous amount of items for the bare minimal we gain from actively playing ( hell I play almost all day and night and rarely very rarely miss a sign in day with my main and farm and I spend massive money already and I still couldn't make max rewards )

maiden hollow
abstract gull
novel geyser
narrow flax
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And stop calling things gifts that are not gifts... You don't have to pay for gifts. Or is this a Gift for the PNS developers 🙄

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boreal wolf
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When fixing the mess of this update, don't forget to add "get Mecha modules" back into today's event!

dull matrix
onyx rock
elder lantern
onyx rock
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“We usually charge $400 for 10 promoter boxes. But for you, today? $4.99! What a deeeeeal!” 😂😂😂 will never not be funny

ornate dust
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So mecha mod day is gone now? Another slap to our faces

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And tundra is stupid

bold cape
wary prawn
modest atlas
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No update from the Des yet then I take it? Sigh!

high mauve
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Keep messaging cs and your gm until they actually change it versus placate and tell us they will look into it.

novel geyser
# left anchor Needs are the best 🤣 the worst is bullies 🥲

I think this sums up the exhaustion a lot of players have with the constant ask for more and more money, and fewer earned, freely given rewards. What the devs need to keep in mind is that for every person who comes to this discord to say something, there are more who don't. They don't have discord, they don't feel comfortable saying something in a public forum, and so on. I play in an alliance with a lot of free to play players. We've asked them to save their materials until this is resolved because they can't afford to buy more. And while this is getting worked out to be better for players, they're missing out on items they need for their growth. I can tell you, based on what some of them have said, this post would resonate with them. They're exhausted by this, overwhelmed by events not at all designed for them to have a chance at completing or playing. I anticipate a couple quitting.

narrow flax
# novel geyser I think this sums up the exhaustion a lot of players have with the constant ask ...

Really I think the biggest problem with PNS right now is they have done nothing to close the gap between big spenders and FTP players. Most games at some point make things like Promote 2s and nano tubes much more available so all players would advance .. which makes the spenders want to go bigger to keep their edge. PNS has done the opposite of this in just about every way. My farm account has 1570 days of play but is still not level 40. That's 4.3 years of game play and I have spent a little on it. The recent changes and the anniversary skins really just feel like a slap in the face.

novel geyser
# narrow flax Really I think the biggest problem with PNS right now is they have done nothing ...

Exactly. Or they do release something that’s pretty good - like the event for the first march trail - and then they do a new trail and make it harder to get. The first time a lot of people in my alliances participated in full and we got a lot of people that trail. I don’t even have the ones they released after it, except in my oldest main, because it was too much money for what it is. I’ve noticed that frames and nameplates have started to be locked further into events when you used to be able to get them with effort and maybe $ and not $$$$.

chilly fern
novel geyser
chilly fern
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Ive just made that Suggestion cutefrog

vestal elm
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So between a horrible revamp of rewards/levels for off-ace week events, overlapping special events, and mecha day being messed up - is there anything else from this week they need to fix?

lusty token
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Maybe they will wait until VC is over then tell us were not getting our tropos back but they will have speedup boxes available for purchase at a savings of 3999%

vestal elm
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Whoever has taken over needs to step down, the obvious change in direction for game updates and gameplay is the result of new decisionmakers. They need to be fired.

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onyx rock
boreal wolf
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bold cape
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It misses the burny part though 😆

vestal elm
boreal wolf
lusty token
boreal wolf
# bold cape Noooooooo, I like it!

It's an interestng puzzle to figure out. And I'll be damn proud once I figure it out. But that doesn't change the "missing the burny part". If we have to deal with tundra, then give us back weekly nuka.

bold cape
rugged hazel
novel geyser
novel geyser
# boreal wolf This is my theory on why we got the cultivation center. Everyone joked around "T...

I think they could have fit it into the storyline better. Around the time it was released we’d had an event that had a story of people attacking supply trucks or something to that affect. They could have tied the cultivation center to it by saying hey, we need better control of our supplies to ensure our survival so from now one everyone will grow some staple groups to help our communities thrive blah blah blah. There’s a lot they could do with this, and some of the other newer areas like bios can cores, that they won’t do because it would help players.

supple tinsel
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I can't. I'm laughing my arse off about your fancy week 29 artwork saying Mecha modules event today and its not happening, no Broadcast message, nothing. It's like you're choking on your own vomit and enjoying it

bold cape
supple tinsel
bold cape
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It’s such a joy 🥹

left anchor
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Imagine if reset comes and diamonds event has changed as well 🫥

bold cape
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Let’s be honest this whole week is fubar

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I’d save everything until we hear what the changes will be

left anchor
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Then two weeks pass and no news 🫥 yeah pessimism is my second name 🤣

bold cape
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Hopefully before the next patch on the 29th

novel geyser
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It was a bold decision to decide to take away earned rewards during the game’s anniversary - right after devs posted a pat on their back in the game. Bold, and greedy.

If the company has based its business model on big spenders, that was a poor decision and players should not be punished for it. Everything doesn’t have to be purchased. Everything doesn’t have to be $10 or $20, or more. Consider your entire player base and you might find business objectives can be met without catering to a fraction of that base.

Players have consistently said they do not want rewards removed, reduced, or made harder to get. This update does all three.

These kinds of changes do not encourage players to spend, at least not long-term. Rather, they encourage them to quit. Those players don’t message Customer Service or come to this server to say they’re quitting. They may tell their alliances but a lot of times they just slow down their play until they stop logging in altogether. This makes the game less fun to play because we lose the people we enjoy spending time with, and the reason why many of us continue to play.

The fix cannot be like Alliance Trials where half of our rewards were taken away and we were only given a fraction of them back.

The fix cannot be more safe resources, which makes it harder for players to help one another and, eventually, will destroy one of the best parts of Valiant Conquest.

Players have asked for a restoration of might week to the version we prefer. It is what should be done.

The success of a company is not just how much money can be made but how much customers trust that company to provide them with the experience they want.

Developers have consistently broken that trust. Now would be a good time to regain it.

mellow vector
small drum
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What is the point of having a box to click saying “ don’t show this again” but have to click it again after every reload or update?? SMH I really think they do that crap to annoy us in passive aggressive way for all of our complaints. 😂

ornate dust
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Red dots equal touches which equal money. This whole game is an exercise in mental mind f’s. What country is this game developed in again?

torn ore
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China

ornate dust
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Yes. rhetorical ? of course 😁

mellow vector
vague shard
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yet....

crystal dune
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Gatekeeper is just another bs cash grab. I hit my AP usage limit and have 90 boxes and only 6 keys. Wtf? So sick of this bs.

mellow vector
crystal dune
mellow vector
crystal dune
mellow vector
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it has often taken me more than 14 AP items to get 10 keys on any other AP event

crystal dune
left anchor
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Yeah 14 AP are not enough for 10 keys, it's more around 30 or 35

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Before planning to have good rewards from ruins, it's important to be vip 13 💪 and then better have 200-250 AP items in your bag

crystal dune
fresh vessel
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This is how bad the new update is...main vs farm both lv 13 doa boxes...pns leadership should be ashamed.

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On chip day

neat galleon
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I've never even commented here before, but a big portion of why I like to play aside from people that I play with has been might week. I tried on hero day, and barely got phase 2, but was totally drained afterwards. I've hardly even logged on this week, even with SD going on, because it just wasn't worth it. I fear I may even settle back more if it doesn't return to how it was or better. This is how people quit the game. I'm R4 in a big alliance, but this could be my last straw after years of play

torn ore
quasi shell
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Number of Twins frag from all Get Week events (other than Diamonds) = 0. # of Twins frag from Diamond Expert = 8. How many times better is old rewards = 8/0 = undefined. That's bad. 🍻

bold cape
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We are waiting to see what the update will bring

fresh vessel
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Im just curious how they thought reducing the amount of rewards and increase the amount of spending to max out events would in their words "enhance player experience "? I'd love to read the rationale behind that...

bold cape
fresh vessel
bold cape
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Would have been a much more pleasant weeks for mods …..

fresh vessel
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Lol..ohh I'm sure

torn ore
bold cape
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You are a paid PNS bot @torn ore !

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A dev plant!

torn ore
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lol

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I will bill them for overtime

fresh vessel
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I saw some of the messages to game managers from other players...oof

torn ore
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Oh we’ve seen a lot too. Let’s hope there’s an update before next off week

bold cape
fresh vessel
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Im sure y'all got blown up non stop since the update

bold cape
torn ore
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The first day was the worst.

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This went chaotic

bold cape
torn ore
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And we still have one more event to go

fresh vessel
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Open dm's and 9k messages 😫

bold cape
fresh vessel
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Irish coffee? I'd go right to the tequila for this one

bold cape
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Someone is typing a lot….

torn ore
fresh vessel
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Ya unfortunately you guys are caught in the middle taking the heat for their madness

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Id say I envy you..buttttt I don't 😂

torn ore
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It’s not all that bad. Just the repetitive part gets overwhelming. One person will comment the exact same thing without reading the messages above

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We started copy and pasting our responses

bold cape
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We want the the feedback, but we also want something constructive that we can report back.
Numbers speak volume, better than just reporting xyz is sht

torn ore
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That too

bold cape
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Just posting hate messages get lost when hundreds of people come here to vent

fresh vessel
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I tried posting screen shots of old vs new updates for chip day but this forum didn't allow it, so I posted it on the talk/news chat above this one

bold cape
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In game suggestions we can link and have numbers

bold cape
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I submitted so many

fresh vessel
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Ohh ok..thnx help:)

torn ore
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I don’t even know how to add pics to reports haha

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So I just type it all

bold cape
torn ore
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I’ll look into it.

bold cape
abstract gull
# novel geyser It was a bold decision to decide to take away earned rewards during the game’s a...

C'mon, now. It's not that bad. Our alliance has only had three people quit the game this week. With their farms, of course. And they were on our TT team B. I love how they give one of the two teams time options that either require unemployed players, or non Western Hemisphere people.

My farm was on team B. We faced a Russian alliance, 4 vs. 40. We were proud to keep them from getting our HQ. The third team only had two players and once their HQ was down, we were attacked by 30 while 10 of them went to sleep in the Kraken.

So really, things aren't so bad. I can't wait for the next Doom, where we will spend three weeks jumping back and forth for events and WLK/VC, and be rewarded with one perfect frag. Yay. This is your new game content, folks. And yet, Sonic is still on the menu, with rewards so bad, the only reason we do it is peer pressure from the alliance. Or, how 'bout the joy of your smaller farm getting zeroed during during Dead Rising because your nap lasted too long and you didn't reinforce with your main.

And this doesn't even get into the joys of this week. Dropping the bomb on top of Showdown when they knew all fighters and shooters had been saving for it.

The game makes me feel like I need a safe word. On the bright side, I hear Walmart is having a sale on Vaseline.

torn ore
bold cape
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Annnd there it is lolol

torn ore
bold cape
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Snickers is on sale too

novel geyser
torn ore
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Not a single person has even mentioned off week in my alliance lol

bold cape
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Doomsday is shortened to 2 weeks fyi

novel geyser
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I prefer Butterfingers

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Two weeks is still too long, especially if they insist on adding in the virus event and overly complicating it.

novel geyser
bold cape
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We liked it, was too long, but overall everyone is looking forward to it

torn ore
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I just press buttons

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I’m waiting to see what pns does. So I saved everything for next off week

bold cape
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Yup

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Passive aggressive repetitive rants are super helpful

torn ore
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But with every bad situation. Comes a shovels event

dull matrix
novel geyser
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I find people continuing to bring up the problem quite helpful. I think it helps highlight how it affects everyone differently.

torn ore
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Always good to hear both sides. Some like it. Some don’t

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novel geyser
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dull matrix
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This was a rough week. Based on changes as end of the week observations. I can get 2 Ace hero II cards and 2-6 Ace Hero III cards on probably 4-5 events during off week. This week I only got 4 Ace hero II and 4 Ace hero III solely due to doing showdown. I really hope they think long and hard on how to fix this. I still really cannot think of solutions other than reverting. It got worst and worst.😅 I hope they don't make it worst fixing it lol

bold cape
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I only did one event

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Since it lined up with my SD quests

torn ore
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I could have finished the hero one. But I backed out

bold cape
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I was researching Rev Res, finished my SD with it

dull matrix
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That's where 90% of my SD points come from lol

abstract gull
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And I'm sure we aren't the only ones dealing with alliance members who can't solo difficulty 7 in Firefly, and yet they've managed to get themselves carried to difficulty 10. Every other week, there they are, starting those one-minute rallies, waiting for a 40+ to log in and save them. They'll try hundreds of times per day. They'll do it just before and after events because they know the bigs will be on.

It makes us nuts. But we can't kick them, with people quitting the game and flying. Sometimes, for fun, one of us will join their Firefly rally with a single taxi. 😆

bold cape
torn ore
bold cape
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We tell everyone to do 12 🤷‍♀️

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I love helping them get better rewards

fresh vessel
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Did they happen to tell mods why they kept the old non ace Intact for younger states, but the older states got the new update?

dull matrix
bold cape
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And our bigs move to other alliances to help finish theirs

bold cape
dull matrix
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It's actually not uncommon new states getting our old versions. But usually it's very very new states

fresh vessel
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Hmm..wonder if it was an attempt to make the game play more fair? It appears it will just promote everyone to fly foward to keep the old non ace, and will kill a lot of the older states that have the new update.

bold cape
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🤷‍♀️

torn ore
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All about team work

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fresh vessel
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Well im trying to be optimistic 😂

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I’m fine with the new format if the point values get adjusted so we can get the same rewards

fresh vessel
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Ya the new formats math isn't mathing all that well..spent 150 5* hero cards and got past phase 1 only 😩

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low relic
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Gj

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Point values need to be triple

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abstract gull
# bold cape You are upset that players can’t get rewards from changed events but sabotage th...

We have two players big enough to help with difficulty 10. Two whales that started in 2021. Firefly week, they become slaves. I feel bad for them. I help with difficulty 9 because I can, but difficulty 10 is lair 50-ish range. There are only three people left in 631 who can do them, and one flies next week. The rest all flew to younger states. Clearly, the PNS discord mods are not dealing with similar circumstances.

pastel ice
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How do you buy skins?

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dull matrix
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Like ruin treasury currently

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pastel ice
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Thanks

dull matrix
torn ore
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I join as many as I can

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No questions

abstract gull
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The bigs talk about it in officer chat.

dull matrix
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Same id rather carry people for better rewards if they are willing to spend their stam that way

torn ore
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It’s free to help

dull matrix
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That's why I don't mind. And I know the others will do the same

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Indeed

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If you are big enough to help. And players that big weren't hampered by the new IM changes at all, because they already have those four heroes at +8. So, while it may seem like pointless pleeb whining to you, most of us don't feel that way because this week they made it cost thousands to get to where you are now and it is money older players never had to spend. Meanwhile, the oldest whales are finishing up +8 Kajisha.

That's the real problem. We know we can't catch the older players because they will also continue progressing. But making it four times as hard to get to where they are now? It feels like an attempt to get rid of newer players who are mid to small spenders.

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I’m old

torn ore
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I mean. Newer players get old off week events

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4.5 years

torn ore
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I’m also old.

dull matrix
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Most of us in my alliance are old 😂 3+ years in

torn ore
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1648 days

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S13 baby

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One week of changed events doesn’t impact fireflies prior

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But that’s talk for another channel anyway

torn ore
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Actually we used to have to place top 1000
To get ONE Leah frag

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We could get rss stolen in Nuka

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Was at Leah top 500