#🗣news-post-talk

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bold cape
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Not every event will have a great match up, some will suck

bold meteor
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And when that person is over 20 times the size of the small alliance players it's a bad match system

bold cape
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Been there plenty off times

bold cape
bold meteor
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My point stands. You can't farm kills from them because they aren't leaving safe zone and they get a miserable two weeks. I've repeatedly said it's for the itty bitty new states

bold cape
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It shouldn’t be played in states less than a year old

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No way they would beat the center unless there’s whale among them

bold meteor
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Having a threshold to entry so they can at least break their own safe zone is a bare minimum

bold cape
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I think increasing minimum rewards would be better

bold meteor
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They don't get rewards if they can't take their safe zone 🤷🏼‍♀️

rugged hazel
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Could run an event the week before matchmaking, if your alliance can't beat the center of a simulated level 7, no entry. I'm sure folks would be super happy

bold meteor
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Honestly there probably would be people that like that. I'm just speaking in terms of watching two dooms in a row where I saw itty bitty alliances that were just sitting ducks

rugged hazel
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On a more serious note, I think it would be interesting if they pulled the top 4 alliances from each of the 4 zones, and moved them to the center to start the week. Sort of like skipping round one in a tournament

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Let them fight over 4/5s week one, and the smaller alliance work on the outter territories without as much interference, until week 2

bold cape
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Ohhhhhhhhh

azure valve
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That actually sounds like a fun idea

coral moth
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Off-topic a bit, I'd like to see more Wasteland Conquest instead of Doomsday.

torn ore
dry salmon
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Lol A01 just means theyre the top ranked 1 might alliance out of the matchmaking pool I believe

vital falcon
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Yep which usually means the most likely to win, unless its an alliance full of relatively small players with large total mights

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We started off as a N….N for NO CHANCE lmao

brazen kite
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They only bought the small box of crayons, really annoying 😂

bold cape
civic cedar
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I will not play doomsday again like this . no chance for Normal might alliance only stay in safe zone so my all friends decide we will not play in next doomsday

drifting river
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Makes you wonder if they make it the way it is on purpose. To get people to rage spend. All my accounts spread out over the last 3 times have been exactly the same. One big alliance who everybody knows is gonna win surrounds the middle. A few really smalls trapped at the safe zone. And the rest merging to try and get to the 3000 points. The gathering is about all thats worth it. I did like the trade stations. Too bad most alliance will never get to control one ever

vital falcon
# drifting river Makes you wonder if they make it the way it is on purpose. To get people to rage...

Yes, there is no incentive for the big alliance to share the level 6. The big alliance will want to take first occupation and hold the 6 for as long as possible to rack up passive rewards. So the situation is unless the big faction is magnanimous to grant someone a level 6, even at the very end of the vent, there are functionally only two tiers of rewards : city state for the winners, and flavors of camp for all the losers. Furthermore the war declaration prevents factions from sneak attacking during sleeping hours, which favors the big alliance because they don’t have to worry about losing the majority of their progress. I like doomsday, but this event will be getting a 1 star or the otherwise lowest score from me.

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To be fair, the trade stations are nice, and I stocked up on a lot of stuff there that saved me from spending $$ to progress my account. And the vault things, both alliance and personal, are nice too in concept, but the drop rate is very low.

brazen kite
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Week 1 was okay, Week 2 not so much. Greon above summed it up nicely. Previous version of doomsday never had me feeling like I don't even want to bother to log on, this one most definitely does. Putting alliances that are so vastly different in size on one map literally sucked the fun right out of the last week. The bigs will not see it that way, why should they, when they're set up to dominate from the beginning vs alliances a fraction of their might. Doomsday isn't about competing with alliances roughly your same size, it's about giving the bigger players a place to remind the peasants why they don't actually matter in the grand scheme of things. Congratulations on making some not so small players that normally dominate most events feel all kinds of crappy but the whales are happy so it's all good... frogcoffee

vital falcon
olive hull
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Our situation is somewhat different , we work hard to get territory and battling our opponent faction and shielding and garrison that territory , but the big alliance faction , comes in attacks us , kicks us out , not to claim the territory and lets our opponents take territory from us ,park there so we can’t defend without taking heavy loses , how is this fair , messaging they do it to make us mad . Our opponents wouldn’t have the territory if it wasn’t the interference of a certain alliance faction . This doesn’t make any kind of fair playing field .They are fighting for domination here in Doom. Some don’t want to play or even continue to play this game , due to the game only thinking about the big spenders because they get bored and enjoy being bullies . Hope you never have this event again because this event ruined the experience of playing the game for a lot of people.

brazen kite
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This version definitely felt like it brought out the inner bullies in a lot of players, something I didn't really see in prior version.

bold meteor
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But I mean, I guess If their goal is get medium spenders to quit. They're doing a bang up job

torn ore
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Your suppose to fight. Join bigger alliances

bold meteor
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It's not possible on this map

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One person is in charge of everything. Look I get it. You're one of the big bullies. So of course you love the event.

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But this doom hit totally different and it's not a fun game mode.

torn ore
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I’m not even in the event

bold meteor
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Also the bigger alliances joined each other. For one big circle jerk

torn ore
bold meteor
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There's no incentive to play this game mode if we are just meant to be fodder for other people.

torn ore
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You’re ment to grow. Join bigger alliances.

bold meteor
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We cannot.

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They all joined each other

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Is that so hard to understand?

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There is no growth opportunity lol

chilly fern
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While venting is fine, please keep it polite and respectful. Matchmaking is not always the best for some. We forwarded that feedback already and keep forwarding it.

bold meteor
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Matchmaking hasn't been good for anyone

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Except the whales

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I've seen a seriously ugly side of people in this game and watched multiple long term people decent spenders decide maybe they should quit

chilly fern
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You cant match only the whales together, as some alliances only have one big which still can destroy its difficult to find a matchmaking which satisfy all players. There is always one winning and one losing. Those who cant compete and lose will always be unhappy. I understand the frustration of not even have the chance for anything on map. And for those we keep forwarding the matchmaking feedback.

bold meteor
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If one person can control an entire map and is larger than a quarter of alliances on a map; then perhaps the whole game mode needs reexamined

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Also this isn't even about winning or losing or standing a chance. This is about repeatedly hearing the same thing. This event has been dreadful for so many

chilly fern
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1st of all, you can simple port out of map back to normal game if you dont like the event. No one needs to keep playing it. Second point you need to work together and build factions together. If the others doesnt agree its bad luck. But the new Doomsday they created this way to give people the chance to work together and build factions to work together and have better chances. If to that other alliances dont agree and merge with other people its actually not the game fault. About overly dominating the map because of strength of single alliances thats something matchmaking could prevent maybe, but difficult as well.

bold meteor
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Again when the top four alliances merge together

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There's nothing anyone can do

chilly fern
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Top four of your map? Thats bad luck. Im sorry you had that bad luck. But the rule change was supposed to give better opportunity by merging and have better options and chances.

bold meteor
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I've heard about it across multiple maps

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It isn't bad luck. It's bad game design

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The top on our map was already almost double the size of the next. No one stood a chance.

chilly fern
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We need this feedback to forward! Please put a polite and good suggestion into #📝game-suggestions . Keep it neutral and to the point, so we can forward that this cases drop the fun for players

bold meteor
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It drops the desire to play that's for sure

chilly fern
bold meteor
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No problem. I won't be playing the game mode again. The rewards aren't worth it

chilly fern
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I want the heroes... I hate having say there unobtained heroes... I need them all, so I have to join. mildpanic2

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Personal crisis cutefrog and when I own them they need to be +3 to equip those shiny cores mildpanic2

bold meteor
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I'm sure you're on the bigger spender side so I'm sure you're chances of getting minimal rewards are small

chilly fern
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Im not a big spender. I spend around 50eur per year to the game

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But I play since the start of the game

bold meteor
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So bigger but still wouldn't survive on my map if you lucked into not being in the biggest alliances

chilly fern
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Oh, wrong... one year I spend a bit more... 200EUR

bold meteor
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Again the absolute wild part to me is one single hq being larger than whole alliances and that not ending up on a map with similar sizing

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If you removed that alliance from the equation it may have been a more interesting two weeks for some

chilly fern
# bold meteor So bigger but still wouldn't survive on my map if you lucked into not being in t...

Yeah, im not that big and often face way bigger opponents especially as with the state i am. I have the luck to be part of a big state and alliance. But I also started somewhere and needed to find my way in the game. I have the luck of playing a long time and to got accepted by strong people to join their alliances and state. But still I know the feeling how to face stronger people and not standing a chance.

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Just play your own way, dont let others steal your fun. A game should distract from the daily stress in real life. Let them rule the map, then you gather the nice rss tiles at least or port back to main map and skip event. There will be other opportunities to Rock cutefrog

brazen kite
chilly fern
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Im not a whale at all mildpanic2

torn ore
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Me either

split root
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Our map was quite unfair as well.

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We are a decent moderate-sized alliance, but we ended up in a corner on one side and a certain well-known massive Alliance on the other side, so we have been trapped the entire time.

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Can't merge with them, can't move around them. Just can't do anything.

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So we all just basically left.

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Maybe next time. The matchmaking was so incredibly off for us.

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Maybe next time things will be more fair

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Or maybe there can be some new rules to help alleviate such unfairness in matchmaking

dull matrix
split root
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Oh yeah? You've been keeping track of ours, huh?

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Yeah, it's been a slaughter. lol.

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We have almost no bronze coins. They let us take a couple buildings for a little while, but then took them back again. None of us have enough bronze coins for Hero frags. Just for, like, a few speed ups or something. Lol.

dull matrix
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I have alot if friends that have been showing me matchups for alot in this side of dd😂

split root
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Lol! 😆 That's awesome.

dull matrix
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I knew it'd be a bit more brutal but jeez I've seen sone things lol

split root
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Hahaha!

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I bet you have!

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Yeah, I don't know if it's just something wrong with the way PnS is matchmaking, or is it a choice they are making?

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Maybe giving sheep to the large wolves for easy wins?

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I dunno

dull matrix
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From my experience from ours it seems like it's purposely unmatched to force you to be diplomatic and merge. When we merged and had 4 in it consisted of 2 70b alliances and 2 100b alliances I think

split root
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I wonder how that would work in our case.

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I mean each individual in the aforementioned massive alliance could smash their way to victory by themselves in those buildings, so I'm not clear on how a merger would help with that.

dull matrix
split root
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We've tried, but then the big unnamed alliance just took them back

dull matrix
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Ah so they are probably purposely not a 25 to be terrors😂

split root
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Probably! Haha

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And they probably have a reputation to maintain about being dominators

dull matrix
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Wouldn't shock me😂

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I was grateful during ours we were basically napped with the right side and the other big merge being part of it 🤣 we took 7 during ours

split root
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Nice! That's awesome.

slim turtle
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The incentive to merge is done very poorly. And it leaves a lot of room for people to get scammed over. And as I mentioned before the matchmaking is absolute garbage. The fact that one overspending goober can literally wipe out several alliances in an event like this is very piss poor programming and planning in my opinion.

Oh let's not even have a conversation about how many of these super accounts have been bought and sold more times than a street worker.

split root
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Maybe next time we'll have a better Doom

split root
slim turtle
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Khev that is exactly what has happened on our server.. then they merged with the second strongest and scam the hell out of them and put every single one of them down to rank one so they get crap Rewards hence why I said it's easy to scam with the system.

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Then not to mention the strongest accounts on the scamming Alliance used to be a Asian owned accounts but all of a sudden they became completely English I believe even USA owned accounts.

split root
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And super expensive.

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I wish I had that kind of money

stone cairn
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It's not a scam if they were warned about it and didn't care if they were dropped.

torn ore
slim turtle
bold cape
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Selling trading accounts and talking about it is against rules of this server

slim turtle
slim turtle
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Okie dokie

torn ore
brazen kite
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So it can be done, just not discussed, copy that cutefrog

bold cape
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I’m sure there’s plenty discord servers to talk about it

wary prawn
terse falcon
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I liked the idea of it, but parts of it, like merging; were complicated

olive hull
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Doomsday took all the fun out of game for me, I’m a 43 was working on 44 . So I do spent money . After spending to make Warhounds competitive ,losing troops because the 90% recover is after spending diamonds to cut loses, which should be reversed ,90% first then diamonds . Only to get small rewards and only a small amt of heroes that won’t be useful unless you spend more money . I have lost all interest in game but will keep my money.

slim turtle
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This is their matching system on the tundra tussle in the 1:00 to 2:00
I mean honestly how can they have a matching system like this and keep a straight face and not expect to really upset their customers

olive hull
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Makes you think they are trying to kill the gaming experience

bold cape
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Especially in the less desired timeslots

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Someone had to match with MOF 🤷‍♀️

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Unfortunately a fellow state alliance but been there myself

bold cape
slim turtle
bold cape
slim turtle
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I don't have a list to answer that and I'm not saying they're going to have a perfect system by any means. But there's got to be a heck of a lot better way to do matching system than what they have.

bold cape
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Someone will have to be paired with Hof, MOF, etc.

slim turtle
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I understand what you're saying. Again I don't have the data to give you a truly educated answer. But maybe they also need to look at how they organize their battle divisions when it comes to this kind of stuff. That might help the system a little bit

bold cape
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By might won’t work
By age won’t work

slim turtle
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On one of my earlier post talking about the matching system in Doom. I suggested maybe looking at individual people in an alliance when it comes to determining how to match up alliances. Again I'm not an expert in this I love the game I've been playing it for several years but it seems to be getting worse with the matching system and it's going to end up being a business killer if they don't get it working a little better in my opinion.

bold cape
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So, might matching won’t work then

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Alliance might won’t tell you if there’s a maxed player

slim turtle
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That's why I'm saying the system needs to potentially look at the members of The Alliance not the overall might number for the alliance. It's just a thought I'm not a programmer but it's data data can be gathered and used.

bold cape
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And then match whale against whale, so it would be essentially a 1vs1 match?
Sounds boring

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Then you’ll have 2 whales on a map and 38 other unlucky alliances

slim turtle
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When the game is designed in such a way that literally one or 2 super Cities could basically take out multiple alliances and control the Lion's Share of the map in let's say Doom, there's got to be a better way

bold cape
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Seems worse than 1

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So, 2 whales on a map would be better?

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I think that’s 100% worse for the 38 other alliances

slim turtle
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I know my experience in Doom this time was basically one super Alliance One close to them but not strong enough to take them out and the rest of us struggled like hell to even get basic points from what I was following on the forums it wasn't just my map that people had this kind of problems with it was a very hot topic about the matching with similar type stories.

bold cape
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But you want to add more bigger alliances per map?

slim turtle
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No you're missing the point make the super alliances battle the super alliances in an event especially like Doom otherwise you're literally stacking the deck for one Alliance against however many other alliances they put on the map.

bold cape
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They’ll split the map and merge in the end

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What’s the cutoff for a super alliance?

slim turtle
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I don't really have a specific number but there's got to be a bracket kind of system that could be a little more comparable when it comes to matching. Again I'm just brainstorming I'm not trying to argue and I really appreciate you having a conversation with me about this. I just know the way it's been working out makes the game very not fun for decent amount of players if not closer to the majority.

bold cape
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You match super alliances every single doom…. How would that work out for profit?

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When those alliances already meet in events every week

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Most big alliances napped before doom even started

slim turtle
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I can see that point of view as well. But I can only assume at some point if you're constantly getting put into a situation to where you totally Dominate and get bored I can't see that being very fun for them either but I can't speak for them I'm not even 40 yet I'm 38 with base of 800 mill ish

bold cape
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Legend WK is top 15, when you meet the same states 5 times in a row.., it’s boring … no one will fight or spend

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Nap and go back to sleep

bold cape
river herald
slim turtle
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I could definitely understand that if I was in that situation. Then maybe the system needs to look at giving some incentive for the super alliances/ cities to give them less expensive and more fun to battle and situations like that I don't know again I'm on the other side of the fence on this one

bold cape
bold cape
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Maybe different map placement?

slim turtle
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I mean I realized the games about making money otherwise you know why would the company even bother with it but they also has to be a balance of keeping everybody as happy as they possibly can within reason because you know as well as I do you never make everybody happy.

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Okay in an event like Doom, the most expensive part of doing any kind of serious battling for any level City is healing the troops up and possible troop loss. So maybe address that issue they're making money off of a lot of other aspects of that event and that might promote fighting in a more balanced environment.

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Anyway I need to get to bed it's midnight here in Florida. Again thank you very much for the conversation it's going to take conversations between players and the company and brainstorming to make the game better in the end so again very much appreciated.

small wren
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I would like to see more animated battles

dull matrix
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Wc=excited
Volcanos=booooooo I need to learn something new ill do it but blegh

edgy plume
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The game and it’s events are competition not charity and handouts, people just need to suck it up, get stronger, or join a better alliance and do their best with the matchmaking given to them

terse falcon
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I haven’t had the chance to participate for WC yet but I’m hoping to this time ✨ I’m excited lol

azure valve
grand root
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how does everyone feel that favorited quests on alliance showdown should be locked to the players who fav, but R4 and R5s can still erase to prevent any cluster “ or troll hogging “ que list

dull matrix
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im glad they arent locked to 1 person most our hearted quests are popular ones that we all take. we are getting points either way and there are never hard feelings here if quests are taken before they get to em

high mauve
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If they locked to one person it would be a nightmare if someone hearted the board and then went offline for 8-12 hours.

dull matrix
high mauve
brazen kite
torn ore
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Need those bad quests cycled always

brazen kite
high mauve
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My farms love the ?s

brazen kite
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I love the 240?s but not the 150/180s that tend to fill the board when it's mass deleted

dull matrix
high mauve
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28 to 40 gcmcs. Easy peasy.

brazen kite
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I make my farms do 240s too 😂

high mauve
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My goal is to not have quests to do by the weekend. Unfortunately, I usually end up with 3-6 accounts that need to finish quests by the weekend. 😂

dull matrix
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🤣

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My quests cooperated this week and I was done with all quests yesterday

mossy dust
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Doomsday Sand Sea: Feedback & Retention Report
​1. Map & Reward Imbalance
​Geographical Kingmaking: Corner-start alliances are blocked by mountains/neighbors, while top alliances get "straight shots" to the center. I've asked many. And many have told me A01 were center safe zone of a side.
​Reward Gating: Tier 2 rewards are physically next to the #1 center building. This allows one "Dictator" alliance to blockade mid-tier rewards for the entire map.
​2. Breaking the "Defense Math"
​The Shield Trap: 8 abandons/day limit + 1-hour wait to re-shield makes defense impossible against 24/7 aggression.
​Dead Zones: The 24-hour cooldown to move Main Zones is a death sentence in a fast-paced event. Players are wiped out before they can legally relocate.
​3. Growth Stagnation &
​PVE Barrier: Tech reworks made "Lions" too difficult for first-time players with new Hounds. No PVE kills = no tech/healing resources = players quit.
​The Canyon: High-tier rewards only go to the top 1%, while mid-tier players spend more in speed-ups/resources to survive than they earn back. It’s a net-loss experience.
​4. Quest Accessibility
​Week 2 Quests were geographically blocked by center alliances. When players can't finish basic quests, they lose all motivation to log in.
​Summary: Sand Sea is currently a "Dictator's Playground." Between map funnels, impossible shield math, and gated rewards, mid-sized alliances are choosing to quit rather than participate.

WC will be similar. We know only top alliances will win. As long as you know your limit on what troops you are willing to lose you can receive some rewards.

bold cape
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🌚 🌚 Easy on the Dictator’s playground

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What’s the Canyon?

high mauve
mossy dust
bold cape
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1 winner , 1 runner up, everyone else

mossy dust
mossy dust
# bold cape 1 winner , 1 runner up, everyone else

That's the thing if you are working with a dictator there is no runner up. What they started doing is as soon as they saw the scroll from the wall coming down. They would garrison the wall to blockade us from shielding our own footholds. they had claimed most of the top kill ranks as well.

torn ore
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WC yes. Only top alliances will win. Thats the purpose. King of the hill. And feasts will cost the winner.

bold cape
mossy dust
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👍🏼

bold cape
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Unfortunately everyone can play the game as they like, which is not always with others in mind

torn ore
mossy dust
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Absolutely 100%.. it was asked to give feedback here. That's all I was doing 🥰 in I thought a more a constructive not a whiny way. 😂

bold cape
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I think if we keep the “40 alliances to start” concept that some mechanisms need to be adjusted that were originally designed to start with factions

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Or increase rewards for all tiers and rankings

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That would solve many problems

high mauve
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IMO If there was a better third tier reward, it would help a lot of players they feel it wasn’t worth doing.

bold cape
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I have to tell you even as the winner… the rewards are not very enticing

mossy dust
bold cape
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I have a huge problem with it being a team event and only 25% of the team can get the hq skin…

mossy dust
bold cape
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It’s like only 1/4 of the team wearing team jerseys..

mossy dust
torn ore
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Yeah. The last event it’s everyone. We get to see some battles with the larger alliances for the win

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Sometimes pretty entertaining

mossy dust
# high mauve What are your suggestions to fix said issues you had on the map?

But one thing I noticed on multiple maps is one whale alliance would be 2-3x the size of the next biggest alliance.. in two states I participated. Maybe one suggestion but I haven't fully thought this idea out yet. So not sure if or how it would work out. But maybe cap the merger or faction might? So they can at least be somewhat comparable? Because how it ended the A01, B02 and C so the top three merged together and there was really no chance at all.

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Oh very.. I do enjoy it actually. I actually like both WC and doomsday.. but I have had many tell me they will never participate in doomsday again because of the experience this last time. Some not even from my server... So i thought it's at least worth the feedback in a more constructive way.

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But I go into WC knowing I have a limit on my troops. 😂

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But have had very little time to save up RSS, work on my tech between these two big events.

high mauve
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1 and 2 had similar size biggest players.

bold cape
mossy dust
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Maybe we need some mechanical adjustments:
Decentralized Rewards: Move Tier 2 buildings away from the center. If they are spread out, a power alliance has to choose what to hold. Or should not be able to hold both tier 1 & teir 2 since they can't claim both sets of rewards. They shouldn't be able to camp one spot and block the whole map's rewards.

Foothold Caps for Walls: If an alliance is already maxed on their foothold capacity, they should be barred from garrisoning walls/towers. This prevents them from 'griefing' or blockading just to stop others from shielding.

Defense Math Adjustment: 8 abandons a day is not enough when being targeted 24/7. We need a 'Mercy' mechanic—if you've lost X amount of footholds, your abandon limit should increase or your shield cooldown should decrease.
PVE Tiering: Ensure the jump from Hounds to Lions isn't a brick wall for first-timers. If players can't beat mobs, they can't heal or finish Week 2 quests. Quests should be achievable even if you're losing the war.

Just some initial ideas to maybe help keep player engagement. 🥰 Again I didn't come to whine and complain but offer some experience and feedback, along with some realistic and possible suggestions. I appreciate your feedback and these conversations. ❤️ Have a great day!

crystal dune
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At least with WC even smaller players (at least by comparison) can go and get some decent stuff to choose from for throwing themselves at a turret, just need heals.

torn ore
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Yeah

woeful glen
dull matrix
modest atlas
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Great, the one time slot that I can attend for tundra/res/clash has been removed. Thanks PNS thanks very much!" what ongoing feedback? dont think I have ever seen a survey relating to these events! so I can no longer use the clash/res store as I wont ever be able to gain any currency from here on out!

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I hope this is a belated april fools joke!

crystal dune
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Yep, screwed us too.

drifting river
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Reset +1 is one of the most popular event times across the game and they took that one away

torn ore
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I don’t know about it being the most popular

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But it’s odd they changed times

edgy gale
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isn't Friday, 01:00–02:00 (UTC) reset +1?

thorny mica
bold cape
chilly fern
torn ore
lunar jetty
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What complete and utter nonsense this Water War change is. Does Europe not exist? The one sensible time slot for Europe gets erased. 'Based on feedback'? From who, because nobody I know gave feedback or was even asked.

The more likely scenario - running servers for this many time slots costs money. Let's ditch some

brazen kite
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I kind of thought the match making had already been tweaked for water war & Tundra, our matches have been a little too easy lately. For transparency our two rotating spots are still there but I was surprised to see there is only one Thursday night slot now which means if you're in the US you either do +1 or you play at work. Can see similar problems with people in UK and others that share their timezone.

torn ore
ocean moss
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The loss of the last time slot hurts as it is by far the most convenient for our alliance which is a fairly even split between US and European players. All the other slots are too early/late for one location or another

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Also from experience the last slot is fairly popular

echo shuttle
bold cape
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?

echo shuttle
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I am playing with my Allies in mind and that means that everybody else are to be conquered. :^)

bold cape
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Well whatever works for you

bright sequoia
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Increase total territory points to 75,000 and allow 5 teams to merge

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You could essentially involve 15 teams in fighting for city and town level rewards

mellow nebula
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ResWar, Clash and Tundra:
The new time slots do not include the last time slot, which just eliminated half my alliance from the events!
Screw them I guess…ugh 🤬

bold cape
bright sequoia
wary prawn
vital falcon
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What if each faction was only allowed to hold a certain number of each type of building?

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Big problem in the last doomsday imo is that the big faction is incentivized to take and hold everything. So there will be no one with community level rewards

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Cost of rewards needs to go down accordingly so that the big faction doesn’t feel like they are missing out

slender nexus
#

Alliance mills are now safe resources? Did i miss that in the patch notes?

crystal dune
slender nexus
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Also the 50% gathering speed drop in alliance mills

ancient smelt
#

Hi, where do i find the amount of tickets per HQ level to fly? Nothing shown anymore.

And this week should be Flag Capture, but it's not shown?!

inland birchBOT
#
Greetings Commander ✨️

You seem to be interested in how many flights you need per headquarters level:

Headquarters Level = Flights Required

HQ 15 - 20 = 1 flight
HQ 21 & 22 = 2 flights
HQ 23 & 24 = 4 flights
HQ 25 = 5 flights
HQ 26 = 6 flights
HQ 27 = 8 flights
HQ 28 = 10 flights
HQ 29 = 12 flights
HQ 30 = 15 flights
HQ 31 = 20 flights
HQ 32 = 25 flights
HQ 33 = 30 flights
HQ 34 = 35 flights
HQ 35 = 40 flights
HQ 36 = 45 flights
HQ 37 = 50 flights
HQ 38 = 55 flights
HQ 39 = 60 flights
HQ 40 - 45 = 70 flights

How to access to the table in-game:
Start from state world map view (map button/bottom left) > Tap the map button with the binoculars (bottom left) > Tap globe earth button > Tap any listed state > Tap the button with the second exclamation point (!) at the bottom of the pop window where it says “Current HQ Level”.

For more informations click the following Link: #1395715142192463963 message

high mauve
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It is a 20% increase if you go to a state marked prosperous

ancient smelt
brazen kite
brazen kite
high mauve
brazen kite
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By developing they mean dead dead, kind of surprised at a few that are considered stable.

high mauve
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Very dead

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A few dead dead states I saw on there as stable

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A saw a few states that I would consider crowded were also stable

ancient smelt
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Yeah, we have an alliance that joined us, but missing people, state was nearly dead, now a few alliances more, before it was 3. Still considered as stable 🤣

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Now there are 6, i think, with the leaving alliance 😂

slender nexus
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441 and 538 are stable? The two highest powered states in the game... come on

high mauve
slender nexus
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Ahhh, more changes meant to discourage farm accounts. Got it

strong beacon
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The Immigration changes are sh*t for me. Mine were expensive enough. Takes literally MONTHS already to get enough immigration tickets. And now they’re increased cuz of hq.
Everything else looks good.

wintry kelp
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I don’t like those safe resources in alliance mills. They can’t be transferred or counted for some quests now (daily quests at least) 😞

high mauve
drifting river
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The qualifications for "stable" seem extremly broad

nocturne oyster
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Is the calendar customizable at all or is it just the weekly schedule for those that don’t know when break loose starts etc?

burnt osprey
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I do not like that the resources aren't transferable and don't count for dailies

nocturne oyster
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Alliance mill not being shareable is lackluster

silk harbor
#

Everyone hates the alliance mill safe RSS update. Please change that back. While you're at it, you could get rid of safe RSS altogether, or at least let us convert safe RSS to unsafe. This is terrible and changes the entire game. We help small players with RSS. This will encourage them to quit the game. Is that a desirable outcome?

burnt osprey
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We help new players grow by sharing resources with them, there are better things to spend money on than buying resources

teal nexus
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Yeah, alliance mill rss being safe is the worst part of this, not just from the lack of sharing within the alliance, but also the impact of all have on Valiant with a massive reduction in the rewards for going out hunting

indigo egret
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Hmm imo it's not small accounts that are impacted most, I am not a small player but I need to support myself with an army of farms to see progress.

burnt osprey
raven trench
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Alliance building resources have been changed to resources on the main farm, so all farms will no longer be able to transfer these resources to their main farm! Therefore, they are also useless!

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The tab to view the items won is also unnecessary; we already know what we win, there's no need for a separate tab just for that.

slender nexus
# high mauve Based on active players not on might.

How do we determine what constitutes an "active" player. Do multiple HQs on a single account count as 1 or X? How long does a player have to be idle to stop counting towards active? Does that change if they're in an alliance? None of these details are anywhere i can find

raven trench
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Failing that, technology is a good thing for WK returns.

high mauve
slender nexus
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Exactly my point, the numbers don't match up with active players being the determining factor

coral moth
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Yeah, I'm hoping that they fix it to count the states with low player count. Someone with 20 farms to make the state "Stable" shouldn't affect it that much

slender fox
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Alliance RSS mill going to safe resources is a terrible update

burnt osprey
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I have a girl on my alliance with 100 farms and the state has 4 seperate state alliances for food wood steel and gas, which now are useless

elder dust
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The immigration change is awful!!! I went from needing 10 more tickets to fly to needing 22 more tickets. This is awful.

Alliance mill being a safe rss is awful too. We help each other with rss and now we are already limited even more.

Put things back the way they were.

strong beacon
cobalt olive
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If anyone is happy with the new update, please tell me why "it's a good thing."

lime mountain
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I was excited for the event calendar. To bad we can't add our actual times for alliance events onto it.

gloomy pond
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🤔 please please PLEASE 🙏 cancel the alliance rss giving safe rss!
This strongly and negatively affects small players in the alliances. If as r5 or even any alliance member cannot assist by sending rss because now they are safe rss and have to dig into our bags or rss boxes then how can we support smaller players and help them grow? Also for big players farms do nothing more than collect rss to feed main account so if alliance mill becomes safe rss that also affects big accounts! This is a terrible idea and honestly the whole safe rss is not great in my opinion.

lean oak
# cobalt olive If anyone is happy with the new update, please tell me why "it's a good thing."

Well, that's too broad. Some parts of it are good, or should be good once we get to actually test/use them. Like the new Alliance tech: Resource Boost and Alliance Whitelist. Also the new warning when allies are marching on the same rss node. Much of it is bad though. The alliance mill change, the immigration changes, the stupid addition of the recent tab in the bag (just why add more stuff to our bag?).

indigo egret
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I seem to be able to transport RSS from mill again ...

burnt osprey
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Thanks for listening

bright pollen
burnt osprey
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Yeah

bright pollen
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Thank goodness

indigo egret
#

Latest new, new version has removed the safe label on the mill, perhaps they heard our dismay and gathering lynch mobs from across the ocean 🙂

cobalt olive
# lean oak Well, that's too broad. Some parts of it are good, or should be good once we ge...

agree about the negatives; my inventory is a mess. You might accidentally open something you shouldn't. The tile walk is good, but the state migration method is still confusing. The alliance technology addition is good, but I think there's a speed reduction in the mill. And the worst part is the secure source; that's what the boxes were for. Also, there was no need for protection, and the shield can always be used, of course. I still wonder why it was necessary. Transferring RSS feeds to those who need them has become much more difficult; I think it's hindering those trying to grow. Even transferring RSS feeds from a farm account is out of the question.

lean oak
acoustic fox
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I don’t like the recent tab. It’s pretty much pointless. A holiday events tab in our bag would be much more useful.

Also, the event calendar should allow us to schedule and show our alliance event times for that week, not just show when server events are starting. Like it’s a good first step but it’s not enough.

And the whitelist should be expanded to at least 100. Doesn’t mean you have to USE all those slots, but it’s one per possible member.

cobalt olive
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As someone who has reported bots selling RSS feeds, I can say they never stopped their.

lean oak
cobalt olive
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Yep

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Black market 😂

teal nexus
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Looks like the mill is no longer safe rss?

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Thanks for listening to everyone on this p&s devs!

cobalt olive
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No matter how much we talk, the outcome doesn't change; they're just like they do during the event hours. I guess we'll just have to get used to it.

torn ore
cobalt olive
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Good

teal nexus
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Just tested and both the march that was gathering there before the update, and the quick replacement one gave open rss

cobalt olive
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I haven't seen it yet

torn ore
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Now someone verify if it gives points for daily

cobalt olive
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I haven't started my farms dailies yet, I'll check.

bright sequoia
rare nova
#

Hi. I would be happy if i could buy mini games tokens eith diamonds 🙂

high mauve
rare nova
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Done. Thanks

high mauve
warm crystal
steep siren
#

Oh no the pink scorpio skin left 😭 is it a bug too?

rare nova
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Yes i saw it laiter, but it doesn't work when i add !suggest, its gray and i cant send the massage

warm crystal
rare nova
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Ah ok thanks

warm crystal
steep siren
woeful glen
stark moth
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Come on pns don't keep alliance mill as "safe rss" . I'm too lazy to send my farms out gathering

stark moth
high mauve
lean oak
# woeful glen I somewhat disagree, I DO think they want to cut out rss sellers, but they encou...

Well, no one ever accused PNS of being smart. On one hand, yes, they want you to have multiple accounts. But that's just because they hope you'll spend money on all of them instead of the one main account, lol. Safe rss is 100% counterintuitive to farms, but maybe it's just another poor design on their part rather than them actively trying to stop us being able to transport rss with farms. You never know with these game devs.

woeful glen
bold cape
#

Keep in mind, devs are not players 😂

woeful glen
dull matrix
#

I am glad slept through all the weird chaos bugs whatsgoingon but now I gotta go gather what mill was supposed to finish of dailies when it dropped😂

crude frigate
#

Anyone seen where to access the whitelist? 😂 First level of tech is done but I haven't figured out where to find the access to it.

bold cape
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Click Alliance > Operations > Request Required /Open Recruitment button (top right) > there's a little Alliance Whitelist button by Confirm

crude frigate
#

Thanks Hela!

random horizon
brazen kite
high mauve
brazen kite
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No matter how, definitely thankful that it was changed back❤️

high mauve
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It’s awesome to see how interactive and engaging this community is with helping each other out and asking question. CH_Heart heart_red wh_heartbounce

crystal dune
somber patio
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I hate the background colors of the "collect me" icons and the build/research/pit icons. Red is DANGER color, so it's disconcerting to have it on an innocuous item that is always visible on the home screen. And greying things out is generally an indicator that you cannot interact with an item, not to mention it makes the icons look blurred out almost. I opened my game and thought my screen was broken, color-wise. I'm not the only one in my alliance to say they don't like it, either. No one has said they do like it.

drifting jungle
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I don't know if this has already been discussed, but do we know when the new immigration changes go into effect? Right now it shows developing/stable/prosperous, but it does not seem to have impact eligibility or cost yet from what I am seeing. E.g. Looking at flying to a newer state over 40 days old still shows an ineligible, and the cost shows as the same for all types (developing/stable/prosperous). Is this just a glitch in the display or is there a break-in time before it is active?

high mauve
high mauve
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It should tell you how many days until you can migrate there if they’re open to migration.

bold cape
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States that are within 360 days from launch are by default stable

drifting jungle
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@high mauve What you just wrote in those three posts should be what is on the info tab when you go to immigrate. The current verbiage is confusing compared to what it used to be and what you were able to convey in basically 2 sentences.

rugged hazel
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Something like this under the Immigration Rules on the State List?

somber patio
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Some friends and I do not like the Recent tab. You shrunk the resources/speedups font way too small in order to mash them into the same tab.

dull matrix
somber patio
# somber patio Some friends and I do not like the Recent tab. You shrunk the resources/speedups...

AND: why on gods green earth would you put the PREMIUM items like 30% build speedups on the TOP OF THIS LIST??????? I wasted one when I was trying to use a food, because I was moving fast and not expecting it there, and hit it before I could stop my motion. So annoying and inefficient! Those are not frequently used items, they shouldn't be at the top of the list, above actual resources. You could more easily have put them in "Other".

unkempt geyser
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New immigration rules are absolutely ridiculous and have caused myself and my alliance a planned move because of the exorbitant costs of additional flights overnight. I have multiple accounts i can’t fly now. Definitely reconsidering playing and definitely refusing to spend now.

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Enough is enough with the money grab.

bold cape
somber patio
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No, in the now combined resources/speedups tab.

bold cape
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No big deal really 😂

somber patio
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To you.

bold cape
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Take a sec to look what you tab

torn ore
bold cape
somber patio
# bold cape No big deal really 😂

That's fine, I think we've already established that you and I have completely different viewpoints on virtually everything, though. And I thought this was a space to share our views on updates to the devs.

bold cape
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No one prevented you from doing so

somber patio
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No, but every time I comment, you seem to feel compelled to reply in an oppositional manner.

torn ore
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You can have some of my 30% build speeds

somber patio
#

To PnS devs: I do like the alliance collision warning, that helps when we are all sending marches out at the same time after an event.

torn ore
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They listen!

bold cape
somber patio
torn ore
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Alliance tile collision has been asked for years

somber patio
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I also love the new tile spawns, so much easier on everyone.

bold cape
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So much yummies

torn ore
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I still gather 5s once a day lol

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Before bed

bold cape
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Im all about the 7s now 🤣 🤣

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It will wear off soon

somber patio
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It's nice to not have so many potential collisions, everyone is already much more relaxed about it, because they know more will drop soon.

torn ore
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I gathered like year 1 and 2

bold cape
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🤣 🤣

torn ore
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I used to have alarms and everything

bold cape
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Hahaha me too

somber patio
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Lol same

torn ore
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Now I have enough rss to last another 5 years

woeful glen
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if I'm awake, I'm gathering and still don't have enough

bold cape
torn ore
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I’m limited with protons

unkempt geyser
unkempt geyser
#

Well it was both for us, but now most are f2p and that wont happen.

bold cape
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The prosperous list isn’t necessarily reflecting the state’s actual activity……

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I see some on there I’d never move to..

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From 1000+ states it’s less than 20

coral moth
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I'm just unsure what causes the developing/stable/prosperous state.

elder dust
fluid creek
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I thought they make it more easy to move not more expensive. if you are F2P and on a decent Level you need close to a year to get tickets for a move. Al least it should be cheaper to go back in servers. Mill should give secure RSS .

modest atlas
#

I see the removal of the Clash timeslots has been implemented effectively pushing a lot of UK and EU players out of these events, Thanks very much PNS. I ask again if this can be reconsidered!

ionic pivot
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New event game is biggest pile of poop since the release of doom. No way of getting anywhere with it unless you spend money again.

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Also what's with the safe RS in the alliance mill. Just made farms redundant. Well done pns. 👏

high mauve
ionic pivot
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Not enough on f2p. Still have to buy to get anywhere decent. Cant even get out of the track test phase

high mauve
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Curios are notoriously expensive. I’m glad they give us a chance to earn some rewards and we aren’t road blocked right away.

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What’s another way that would help the f2p player earn rewards?

ionic pivot
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Having better odds to get what we need. 6k ap used and not one fighter based curio. Its good that they are made more available but the odds of getting anything related to troop base seem impossible

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I can bet if I threw money at it I'd get the Curios needed

high mauve
drifting jungle
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Questions regarding the developing/stable/prosperous designations. Do we know how those labels are assigned? With what frequency they change?

For example: if an alliance is moving from a stable state to a developing state. Would it be likely that halfway through the move the price changes since active players have entered the state?

high mauve
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That is unknown. It originally said daily on the bulletin, but since then it was removed.

drifting jungle
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I think that would be good information to get if they can provide it (I understand it is still new and they are likely still working some things out). As was said above many people who don't spend a ton plan for moves for months, so having some information regarding timing and likelihood of a status change would be huge

high mauve
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The question has been posed to the captains. 😀

lime mountain
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Per bulletin notes it's updated each day

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So as long as they all move within the same day prices won't change on you

gloomy pond
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I’m not sure if this was asked before but how do we set the whitelist names?

drifting jungle
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If i remember it was asked a while back on this thread and was in alliance settings once you unlock the tech

high mauve
chrome edge
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Can someone explain what exactly a whitelist is?

drifting jungle
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Most useful for people joining a state alliance for WLK and coming back after

chrome edge
#

Ah thank you

brittle bane
#

I'm not opposed to the mill giving secure rss IF they made them transferable. In a game built around the importance of teamwork and were rss are currency to pay for tiles hits and other incidents, taking away the ability to transfer rss is irritating.

somber patio
#

Is anyone else not getting the rewards from spinning the wheel in Alexander's Carnival? There are multiple people I've spoken to in my alliance who are not. And yes we are checking our bags etc.

high mauve
#

Yall will need to message customer service for that. Option 2 below

inland birchBOT
#
Dear Commander✨️

You seem to be in need of contacting Customer Support (CS). May I suggest one of the following options:

Option 1 | In-Game
Tap on 'More' (gear icon, bottom right of task bar) > Settings > Help > Contact CS. Submit a new ticket by clicking "My Tickets" at the top right corner.

Option 2 | Email
global.support@37games.com
You will need your UID, which can be found under Settings > Account

IMPORTANT NOTES:

  • If applicable, include any/all relevant information related to you and your issue:
  • Screenshots/video of the issue(s)
  • Screenshots/video of expected outcome(s)
  • Proof of purchase

**Please be patient when waiting for a response. CS is NOT available 24 hours a day. **When high volume / game-wide issues come up, replies to tickets submitted may take longer to arrive. Thanks again for your patience!

glacial jasper
#

Rss war times but not good for European players everyone I spoke to preferred the last slot anyway

torn ore
neon yacht
#

Why is capture the flag the week of wk? We lose rewards if we join wk?

neon yacht
#

So because pns Fs up it screws non big alliances again?

high mauve
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We asked for clarification. Don’t know how it wouldn’t mess up big alliances too?

neon yacht
#

If they stay and do wk in their own. Hof doesn’t need help. Mof doesn’t need help.

high mauve
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That’s 2 alliances… pretty sure most states work together.

neon yacht
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So wk is screwed too. Because it’s coins or wk.

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Just stupid updates. That screw people

high mauve
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Let’s wait and see before we get worried.

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We have the question posed to the captains.

neon yacht
#

They had what a week to fix it? They didn’t.

high mauve
#

And it’s being brought up now. Think folks were more concerned about the other updates.

As previously stated, don’t worry until later in the week. The question has been posed. You’re going to give yourself heartburn worrying.

neon yacht
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No I will save money when I am done with the game. I may not be a big spender but I am middle spender.

bold cape
#

Let’s calm down

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We asked for clarification

neon yacht
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This is calm

bold cape
#

Okie dokie

jovial nova
crystal dune
# high mauve We have the question posed to the captains.

Really hope they answer soon. Idk about other states, but our WLK sign ups generally end at reset on Wednesday.

In hindsight, they'd have been better off just skipping it entirely and bringing it back at the usual time in the event rotation. Yeah, some might not be happy but it's better than the best defenders in the states potentially not being able to help their home alliance in Flag.

jovial nova
lime mountain
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As long as you go back to the alliance you are doing Flag in before rewards you will be good unless something changed with how it was previously. I thought the only change was the buffs.

Even if you leave the alliance your march that you signed up with stays.

crystal dune
bold cape
#

We have asked for clarification from the higher ups

crystal dune
#

Has there been any news from the powers that be regarding Flag and WLK? I still see some saying you'll miss out on the settlement rewards and others have said you'll be fine as long as you're back in your alliance before the match.

torn ore
azure valve
simple geode
bold cape
#

Just to avoid confusion 😬

simple geode
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Yeah that’s what I meant lol

jovial nova
light bobcat
#

It’s a freaking dumb event nothing good about it taking up 2 weeks sigh … i haven’t seen so much hate on an event like this one..but it’s what it’s

jovial nova
#

Hey all, quick question — Nova chat just said I reached HQ 1. Not sure what that’s referring to… can anyone offer some clarification, please?

raven trench
#

This event is boring and pointless, and even if you unlock the curiosities, you don't progress! I only managed two laps! This event should be banned; there are no good rewards and nothing fun to be had for 15 days.

bold cape
#

Just ignore it, the more you post here the higher the chat hq

placid egret
jovial nova
placid egret
#

Honestly been the worse event

raven trench
placid egret
#

Never seen a more money hungry event

jovial nova
brazen kite
bright geyser
#

Worst event ever💯🤣🤣

snow cedar
#

The new event is BS

raven trench
#

Now we just have to wait patiently for the end in 6 days. 🤦‍♂️😂

snow cedar
#

Poor mods gotta deal with greedy pns ideas

prime patrol
#

Geez! I can't get anywhere with this race event. I didn't even get to use my free pay! Disappointing!

brazen kite
#

But at the end... they'll throw up a pay wall where you can buy what you're missing... by that point I've lost interest though.

dull matrix
#

As much as I hate this dang event I got some curio out of it bleh. I do think we need to stop with locking long form events with curios its annoying but i know itll never happenwhatsgoingon

raven trench
#

He keeps creating new curiosities, since the big spenders buy them, but we haven't even finished the first ones yet!!! They should bring back our old events

bold cape
sterile wadi
#

I collected the rewards from the build a track and the curios didnt go to my bag and are not available to be opened i put in a ticket but yall might want to check too I didnt really pay attention at first but it did it on several accounts on multiple devices

kind echo
#

🚗 Peak of Racing Progress
What level are you on in the Track Test?

I'm on level 3

Have you completed all 20 laps and entered the Solo Race?

🤣 🤣

What’s your personal best time so far?

3:35.45

🏆 Favorite Event So Far
Which of the events have you enjoyed the most?

Inspect the Vehicle Display, it was pretty much the only one I could get some decent rewards from without spending cash, though of course the best rewards were still unavailable

🎁 Rewards Checkpoint
Which rewards are you aiming for the most?

I'd like them all but it looks like I have to settle for some more level 3 blue curios and level 1 purples

I've still only just started unlocking the coloured sets and animal curios I actually managed to get to level 2

torn ore
#

Peek racing has not caught any of my attention. And the race track seems too expensive or even can’t do

tulip token
#

In my opinion, worst event to date.

brave charm
#

Traaaaash event clown

vivid wolf
#

I've been seeing this notification for the last 10 days but I can't find these "Golden week double "in-game" rewards packs" in the game. Only a couple days left, so I am more motivated to at least see what they are. Anyone know where they can be found in-game?🌟 I hope I posted this question in the right place, if not let me know.😂

bold cape
#

Never seen this

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But I want it 😂

brazen kite
#

Flag Buffs... Inconsequential or can't win without it? Thoughts?

dull matrix
brazen kite
#

Good to know, ty!

dull matrix
#

It'll be interesting to see throughout the week we don't have a ton of folks that focus ace

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So we probably won't have boosts at all lol

brazen kite
#

Aren't flag matchups connected to water war ranking/matchups?

dull matrix
#

The affinity is connected

brazen kite
#

Losing those two water war/tundra spots didn't help with our matchups there either 😂 😑

dull matrix
#

I have a weird feeling clash/res will keep trying to throw us down legend while flag keeps throwing us deeper into legend

brazen kite
#

I don't mind when we get matched to alliance(s) 50-100ŮŞ higher might, it makes it more of a challenge but on flag it's meh

dull matrix
#

The whole things probably gonna take awhile to balance out

jovial nova
tawny hamlet
#

I stopped paying attention to the car event after like the third day. Couldn't even use my free attempts until I opened some curio boxes, and even after that still couldn't pass the lap. What a dumb event to have running for two weeks

gentle holly
torn ore
crystal dune
#

So basically they're saying yes, you might still lose out until it's adjusted?

torn ore
#

Need a server maintenance first

crystal dune
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I get that and it's understandable. My issue is more about until they do that, we're stuck. And they said until then the issue may occur for future 'cycles', implying this could still happen next WLK too.

I mean, I hope we're worried over nothing and we'll be ok. But this would've worked better if they'd swapped some things and changed it to tie in with Valiant since noone has to leave their alliance.

brazen kite
crystal dune
olive storm
olive storm
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Today is round three and we fight later

high mauve
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Today is day 4 of the buffs. Tuesday is day 1, Wednesday is day 2, Thursday is day 3, and Friday is day 4.

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You lost to them on your buffs for the fight.

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The buffs are a day prior so there’s not changing the day of.

olive storm
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Says we have lost, so just the buffs not the match?

bold cape
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Match hasn’t happened yet

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Still in prep phase

high mauve
olive storm
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Thank you for the explanation, unfortunately it isn’t clear in the game info

high mauve
azure frigate
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I would rather keep the curio boxes and save them for ace, at least I will get better rewards that way!

torn ore
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This is not at all one of their best idea events. Not even failing a race gives any rewards. I’ve placed in my reports.

split root
lucid plume
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I think there was a pretty serious miscalculation for the racing event... Even if one still tried to complete curios there's not even a chance of competing for the hq skin... Before the final event even started. My low motivation has dropped even lower...

high mauve
lucid plume
torn ore
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Need to beat the timer

lucid plume
high mauve
lucid plume
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It's still one of the more frustrating curio events for most accounts

high mauve
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At least some of the events were familiar fun games lol.

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About 3 days left and then we get to see what they’re bringing next.

gray matrix
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Does anyone know how long you can hold a marked task in showdown?

warm crystal
dull matrix
high mauve
dull matrix
bold cape
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Black cat march and tarot hq!

pale token
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Been trying to upgrade the constellation curio, however there are 4 zodiac signs missing from the curio shop

bold cape
jovial nova
median pendant
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I have a simple wish:
That the alliance party would actually last 20 minutes! 1 minute is lost in the beginning & 30 seconds at the end. It’s a small thing, but it’s been bugging me for a long time! 😂

bold cape
cold heron
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Dropping my wishlist: events were better explained fully rather than just one part of the multi event at a time ( I missed the beginning of the Racing event as RL took precedent) I felt like I was so far behind and saw no way to acquire the beginning of the rewards. So for the longer multi event ones it would be nice to get the opportunity to acquire the items needed more than one time!

sinful saffron
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My Alliance keeps me coming back!Wish List: She-ra/He-man event or Voltron event
An eye roll smilies, puking smilies lol

bold cape
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Castle Greyskull was such a cool toy

sinful saffron
bold cape
upbeat adder
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Wishes for showdown:
** Make it less frequent, e.g have it once a month or make it every four weeks instead of every three weeks.
** Shorter quest refresh period
** Greater variety of quests
** Claim all tier rewards instead of just one.

Additionally, more events that are accomplishable for free to play and small spenders.

dark rock
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Wish: to be able to sort/move my “characters” in the list. Pretty please 🙏🏼

bold cape
pale token
high mauve
pale token
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That’s reassuring to know.

high mauve
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Curio events have always been expensive.

gloomy crane
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They need to bring back normal shovel, its been ages since we had one, and all these “fake shovels” dont convert to shovels in the end

sinful saffron
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The ability to say “I want to transport x amount to another hq” and it just send out how ever many marches it needs to until that amount is transport. Would be so much nicer lol I get distracted sometimes and forget what I’m doing and have to start transporting from my farms to my main all over again lol

split root
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That is a good suggestion, Rainey.

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You should add it to the pile in the page Spartiatisa linked to

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There are others like it, but the more we get suggestions, the more we can add them to our reports

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At the very least, they have to keep reading through everyone's suggestion of the same thing. Haha!

sinful saffron
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I posted it in there

somber patio
somber patio
dull matrix
jovial nova
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Will Peregrine be released soon to obtain? A player in my alliance has crafted his weapon and inquiring about his availability.

high mauve
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No peregrine in puzzles and survival unless it’s a hero with a different name in a different country.

chilly fern
jovial nova
jovial nova
chilly fern
jovial nova
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Ok. Thank you!

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Is it an event that is primarily targeted for the older states?

high mauve
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Doomsday went to states 1-1120 last time.

jovial nova
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Trails of Survival Quests haven’t been recording for me since last reset. Anyone else experiencing this?

high mauve
jovial nova
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Hahahahahahaha. Just looked again. Sorry!!!! It says reward countdown. I just looked at the timeframe.

high mauve
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All good. It’s a good question.

slender nexus
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Reading the patch notes, 100 clears in the mini game section to unlock sort master is excessive since most of them you have to spend to clear past lv 5.

jovial nova
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Dear Puzzles & Survival Development Team,

I am writing to express serious concerns regarding the recent changes affecting events such as Wasteland King and cross-state matchmaking.

Right now, many newer states are being completely overwhelmed by significantly older and more developed states. The gap in troop strength, technology, heroes, and overall account progression has become so extreme that many players feel they are simply being sent out to be slaughtered with little to no chance of competing fairly.

This is no longer creating a competitive environment — it is creating frustration and discouragement.

We are already seeing players leave their states, migrate elsewhere, or quit the game entirely because they feel there is no realistic path to compete or grow. Many newer-state players invest time, money, and effort into this game, only to feel helpless when matched against states with overwhelming advantages.

The current system is damaging morale and harming player retention. If these balance issues continue, Puzzles & Survival risks losing many loyal players to other games that provide fairer matchmaking and progression systems.

Something needs to change. Whether that means improved matchmaking, stronger protections for newer states, revised WK balancing, or brackets based more heavily on state age and development — the current situation is not sustainable.

We love this game and want to see it succeed long term, but the growing imbalance between newer and older states is becoming impossible to ignore.

Please seriously consider adjustments before more players decide to walk away.

Thank you for your time and consideration.

high mauve
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That way folks can up vote it. Make sure to be clear and concise.

bright sequoia
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Don’t win so much, the whole system is based on ranking so if you do well you battle until you find someone that beats you

jovial nova
jovial nova
# dull matrix Basically

Thank you for the response, but respectfully, “don’t win so much” does not address the actual issue players are experiencing.

The concern is not simply about winning. The concern is the massive imbalance between older and newer states in events like WK and cross-state competition.

Many of us have personally witnessed older, heavily developed states completely overpowering newer states to the point of taking hubs and dominating entire events with little resistance possible. That is not healthy competition — it is discouraging for newer players and states trying to grow.

Newer states cannot realistically compete against accounts and alliances with years of additional development, stronger heroes, higher troop tiers, larger account investment, and long-established infrastructure. The gap is simply too large.

When players feel they have no chance regardless of effort, they stop participating, migrate away, or quit entirely. We are already seeing this happen.

Players want competitive events. We do not expect easy wins. But there needs to be a fair environment where strategy, teamwork, and activity matter — not just overwhelming age and power differences.

Please reconsider the current balancing systems before more newer states lose active players and morale declines further across the game.

We are raising these concerns because we care about the future of Puzzles & Survival and want the game to continue thriving long term.

dull matrix
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Basically once you leave your first 2 Zeniths you are thrown out into the big kid world. You can face s1 to whatever max state isn't in their Zenith based on placement you are. You win some. You lose some. The whole aspect of new states should not face old states is ridiculous

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We've been messed up by new states before

jovial nova
dull matrix
bright sequoia
# jovial nova Are you serious? The answer is don’t win so much?!

Yes, I rotate losses naps and takeovers to make sure that I don’t go to high, and when I do then I just go back to bed because in reality there is always someone bigger you will always find them. It’s a pay to play game and the best rewards are locked behind serious whoopings

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I probably lose 30% of the time because of the bracket I choose to play in.

dull matrix
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We actively avoid above plat. Sometimes on purpose sometimes gold helps that

dull matrix
bright sequoia
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I keep stealing the free frags in legend lol

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Napped once lost 7 times this year I think 🤣

dull matrix
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Better than being landlocked for 3 months I think?

high mauve
bright sequoia
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I don’t wanna see the same people more then twice 🤣

dull matrix
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😂

azure valve
# jovial nova Thank you for the response, but respectfully, “don’t win so much” does not addre...

I think the problem is people don't understand that WK and other SVS events are based on rankings. If you win a bunch of times eventually you're going to run into a bunch of people you don't want to play with. We have that problem with water wars. We have to be careful which time we picked because we run against teams like Hof. My alliance is not small but we can't compete with them on that level.

Heck we ended up in legend last wasteland and believe me we were really expecting to get our butts whooped

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And we're not a young state

jovial nova
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No, I understand the mechanics of it.

azure valve
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We've been told they're not going to do much with matchmaking on those circumstances. And I'm not really sure there's much they can do at this point. You just win until you lose and hope that you're not running into a bigger and older state at the wrong time.

There are quite a few older states that are not very strong anymore as well so you might get lucky there.

jovial nova
dull matrix
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Ahh okay. My mistake on that.

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Didnt fully scrolled up and read up yet, just wanted to leave that in first place here, now i gonna read up 🙂

jovial nova
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So about WK the matchmaking is mainly fair as you get matched by points you reached with your state. That way you stay around with other states similar points. If you win too many and find yourself in matchmakings which are a pain you need to let your state drop down in points to find more fitting opponents.

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Apart of that for more fitting or better ideas how to optimize we have #📝game-suggestions channel were you can share polite and respectful ideas for changes. Those we mods then weekly put into reports to forward to officials. It doesnt mean those suggestion makes it in game but they arrive where you want them to be seen at, the officials. Mods listen, forward ideas and also explain game systematics and how to avoid things as for example the wk matchmaking point systematic (matching by points), also other players jumped in to explain. Please dont feel unfair treated when people try to explain and coach.

jovial nova
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Ok

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Multiple players across different states are raising the same concern: the recent matchmaking and immigration changes are hurting newer and smaller states instead of helping them.

Players say the matchmaking range was supposed to become narrower, but instead it appears to have expanded, causing newer states to face much older and stronger ones. This is leading to uneven events, state collapses, players abandoning regions, and more people flying away or quitting entirely.

There are also concerns that the “prosperous region” system and immigration restrictions are concentrating power into a small number of already-strong states while weaker and developing states struggle to survive.

This is no longer just one player complaining — players from multiple communities and languages are all reporting the same issue and asking for the matchmaking system to be reviewed.

Thank you for taking the time to respond.

bright sequoia
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Prosperous is actually harder to move to, so wouldn’t it be easier for a small state to recruit cause it’s cheaper to fly there ?

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My real question in life is what makes a state prosperous?

dull matrix
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When they did matchmaking changes I don't think that had anything to do with wk

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But in other areas I've definitely noticed a decent difference

chilly fern
bright sequoia
high mauve
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Are they correlated?

bright sequoia
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Full

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Sorry whatever word they changed it to the state it costs the most to enter

chilly fern
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My state counts as full 1sad

azure valve
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My state is standard so is 441

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They still haven't explained what classifies full

chilly fern
bright sequoia
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So how many alliances are in your state ?

chilly fern
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Active players

high mauve
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Anyone else notice the new stickers?

torn ore
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I Don’t have enough money lol

high mauve
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You’re loaded

azure valve
# chilly fern Active players

I'm more saying I would really like to know what the threshold for active players is to put a state in a different status

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I really want those stickers

stray seal
# jovial nova Multiple players across different states are raising the same concern: the recen...

Maybe I can explain it a little bit differently for the matchmaking…

Let’s look at it like March Madness for basketball, the better your team does, the higher the rank they are in, the higher overall bracket, you’re matched with teams in similar brackets. Which means the better you perform, you’re going to match with states that perform as well if not better than you did. So if you’re in diamond or platinum, you’re not going to match with states that are in legend. Now if you’re doing so well and your points get up to legend, then you’re going to match with other legend states. It’s not that PNS wants you to do bad or look bad. It’s just that you went up into a bracket that you’re not necessarily able to win in. Once your state’s scores drop into a lower bracket, you will be matched with teams in that bracket which might be more evenly suited or matched to your states level.

bold cape
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WK takes a bit of math before the event if you want to avoid moving into more stabby brackets

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Check the points and see what taking 1/2 states will do to your points and brackets

dull matrix
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We were able to take 2 states cause it didn't land us somewhere too stabby

stray seal
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We just dropped to gold last WK, this weekend we took two states. Now we are in the top of Platinum so I fully expect to get our asses handed to us or preferably match with good states and have our hubs under NAP.

But I also know that teams fell out of legend will be looking to move up again so they will be wanting to take a state or two.

bold cape
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Top platinum, diamond, legend are very close in points … you can easily end up somewhere where you honestly become a snack

stray seal
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If see 419 in platinum it means I play to get points and go back to bed.

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Here you go Hela! Hub is all yours.

dull matrix
bold cape
stray seal
rugged hazel
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I miss west coast start times, 4/5am kills me 😢

bold cape
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4am…..

dull matrix
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I like when wk starts 5am... it starts 6am for me currently

bold cape
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6 sounds dreamy

rugged hazel
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2am was fun for set-it-and-nap

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now it's sleep in and barely be useful-o'clock 🙂

bold cape
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I’m in mountain all times suck lolol

bright sequoia
bold cape
bright sequoia
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Everytime I go to legend I say a little prayer then it’s almost never answered

bright sequoia
bright sequoia
torn ore
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Only got 1 hit last time

bright sequoia
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It was 8 hits before I put my hat on 😂

torn ore
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Your memory is better than mine lol

light panther
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@afeng089579519

bold cape
brazen kite
wary prawn
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👀

high mauve
wary prawn
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Been busy with everything else besides the game

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It’s been a stupid week

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So I went golfing yesterday lol

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Note it’s raining

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And I’m sad lol

high mauve
wary prawn
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Not the same lol

high mauve
wary prawn
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Little bird sounds lol

high mauve