beta-season-test-chat

[silver bridge]

Nah.. I think those columns of water were purpose built cage/trap. Not that they accidentally got trapped. Those are flying mantas... As we saw in #beta-screenshots-videos they were possibly herded into those areas and captured

[wise bone]

why would they capture mantas?

[devout fractal]

And then the spirits used their collective girlboss powers to disintegrate the mantas

[wise bone]

maybe they were food for the leviathan

[devout fractal]

Gimme a sec i know i saw smth earlier

[wise bone]

maybe we were wrong about the leviathan, they're not afraid, they were trying to harness its power and it backfired

[devout fractal]

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[wise bone]

although that is quite a stretch, we don't have any proper evidence for that

[devout fractal]

An evolution of this concept perhaps?

[silver bridge]

For manta power extraction

[wise bone]

rip your message keeps getting deleted (dm it to me if it doesn't work again)

[devout fractal]

There are sets of the diamond batteries under the manta tubes so

[wise bone]

that's probably why lol
maybe the production attracted the leviathan (the energy output or something)

[silver bridge]

Like how the forest temple seems to be a factory once upon a time to derive power from mantas. See how mantas fly away when we sit to meditate in forest temple? And the doors/windows open to the sides to let them out?

[devout fractal]

Maybe they produced them for the leviathan…?

[brazen patio]

can i ask a question here for the beta testers hehe

[devout fractal]

Yes 🌞

[wise bone]

sure, ask ahead

[silver bridge]

Exactly my thought... Or they fed the leviathan the wastes from the energy production which happened to be mantas in large trays

[brazen patio]

uh so is the way to crystal bay still in the shipwreck or is it relocated i nthe social space?

[wise bone]

it's in the social space for gw

[devout fractal]

Relocated to social space rn

[brazen patio]

where in social space is it relocated

[wise bone]

i think the leviathan was connected to the production, definitely
to the right of the bonfire

[brazen patio]

so like to the right of the bonfire ??

[silver bridge]

The person standing in the bottom just above the leviathan I think is not sealing.. Rather using an elevator. May be the leviathan was friendly... That is definitely an elevator since each level of those Chambers have those pedestal buttons like in colosseum elevators

[brazen patio]

near the far spirit grave

[wise bone]

the krill can climb the elevator, what's stopping a leviathan
other than size lol

[devout fractal]

I think the leviathan like

They were appeasing it

[wise bone]

what could the leviathan provide for the spirits?

[devout fractal]

Not. Killing them all

[wise bone]

fair enough lmao

[devout fractal]

[silver bridge]

Protection like krills

Apparently krills were used for defence

[wise bone]

so
the spirits were producing batteries for the king / elders using mantas, but the production attracted the leviathan, which meant the spirits had to start using the mantas to appease the leviathan and built the tunnel for it

[devout fractal]

Cus i think the leviathan if its the same as the giant worm in the mural

[brazen patio]

oh i have one more question if you don't mind hehe =)) does the season share a resemblance with the underground level in journey? or is it more like abzu haha

[silver bridge]

Ah yes that shows that the leviathan used to attack boats

[wise bone]

i've never played journey or abzu so i don't know, but feel free to go look at #beta-screenshots-videos

[devout fractal]

…yeah

I think it kind of just

Manipulated the spirits into feeding it and doing it favors until they outlived their usefulness

And then attacked them and chased them out

[wise bone]

maybe the leviathan got bored of mantas eventually and just went after spirits anyways
sort of like people that raise hippos and then go back to visit the hippo and it eats them

[compact trellis]

the idea of the mantas being sacrificed to the leviathan (perhaps to keep it from destroying them) sounds pretty good

[silver bridge]

Ok... One thing puzzling me is... How is it still alive? Or needs to eat something? Or like krills it is only hungry for light?

[compact trellis]

most likely yes
just by appearance i assume it's a dark creature

[wise bone]

it seems to be similar to krills, so it probably has the same diet

[silver bridge]

So why is it still alive and roaming there?

It is not like it is guarding something

[compact trellis]

i dont think it needs to consume light to live
i have a semi-theory that dark creatures are simply devoid of light andcrave it

[devout fractal]

Maybe it just does that for fun

[silver bridge]

Yeah agreed

[compact trellis]

krill clearly seem to hunt for sport, as they can attack over and over and over and never get 'full'

[devout fractal]

So its basically just a bigger and smarter krill ig

[compact trellis]

althought that could also be explained away as "game mechanic, krill attack"

[devout fractal]

Mhm

[compact trellis]

i dotn think they even eat the light, they just seek to snuff it out (see: they never actually tak your light, jsut scatter it)

[wise bone]

there are underwater krills so it is possible for them to get big enough to be leviathans

[compact trellis]

the leviathan in the cave painting looks a little TOO different that im not entireuly sure its supposed to be a big krill or not

[silver bridge]

I remember once someone described the action of the krills as one of desperation... Trapped in the darkness for so long that as soon as they see light, they think it is a way out (light visible at the end of the tunnel) and charge towards it to escape the darkness...

[compact trellis]

yknow there is actually concept art that theoretically supports this

[silver bridge]

Is it?

[compact trellis]

lemme go find it

[wise bone]

are the batteries related to the dark stones?
they absorb fire for energy, but when they absorb too much energy they corrupt light creatures (the king, for example)

[devout fractal]

Oh probably

[wise bone]

which means the batteries are sort of connected to the leviathan if it's a dark creature

[devout fractal]

Fire and light are almost one in the same in terms of sky lore as far as i know

[wise bone]

we are all one, and one is us all

[devout fractal]

Speaking of reeses pieces i know telekinesis

[wise bone]

maybe the leviathan sensed the darkness as well, it was basically a beacon for dark creatures

[silver bridge]

@compact trellis what are the words in the lower right image?

[compact trellis]

"HUNTING" "DEAD"
"DYING" "SAVED/FREED"

[wise bone]

i have the website if you want the link luka / nomad

[silver bridge]

Ah OK

[compact trellis]

should we move to regular beta chat? we kidna went offseason

[devout fractal]

Y e s

[wise bone]

https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1

[devout fractal]

Also i need to do my hw anyways so like im gonna

[wise bone]

it's in lore chat too i think
it's really fascinating if you look all through it

[devout fractal]

Disintegrate goodbye

[wise bone]

aw, i'll cya later for real this time

[compact trellis]

beta chat i dont feel so good

[wise bone]

i mean, it is still connected to the season
i can't really see the discussion being any more general beta than it is season chat

so i think we can agree the leviathan was attracted to the battery making area, then they were feeding it mantas until it attacked
do you think they all died?
it might explain why the current spirits aren't afraid of the area, a story like that would make the rounds

[compact trellis]

judging by the damage on the area (towers) it likely attacked them, then maybe they secured it somehow with those forcefields

maybe the forcefields were built as a last ditch effort, but they all died before it caught the thing

[silver bridge]

Someone posted the size of the claw marks compared to the sky kid. Doesn't seem to be one by leviathan.. Must be something even bigger? 🤔 Or may be my size judgement is off

[wise bone]

hold on, lemme post the size comparison link

[compact trellis]

i think it might be the worm monster from the cave painting that destroyed the towers
size... relatively checks out

[rustic fiber]

i zoomed out as far as i could

[wise bone]

#beta-screenshots-videos message

it's probably a lot bigger than you think

[compact trellis]

yeah that size mostly checks out

[wise bone]

it looks like it would fit in the monument, so it makes sense that it would have come out of there

[silver bridge]

Then those are teeth marks not claws.. That thing doesn't seem to have claws. Hence may be in the first mural we see there's a exaggerated impression of its teeth

[wise bone]

also, it would explain why the tower is just hollow, and not lit or detailed on the inside

[lime goblet]

Im@imaging some Jurassic park level stuff now

[wise bone]

it could have just hit the side when it came out? idk
it seems to have spine thingies on its sides

[compact trellis]

cave paintings have always been somewhat exaggeratory

the 'scraped the side of the tower' theory sounds best

[silver bridge]

" Your scientists were so preoccupied with whether they could, they didn't stop to think if they should." ~ quote from that movie

[wise bone]

i mean, it sort of fits with our theories

[silver bridge]

So we are living in a Jurassic Park!

[compact trellis]

maybe the leviathan was an attempt to revive the worme

[wise bone]

the worme?

[compact trellis]

the cave painting monster looks vaguely liek a giant worm monster

[wise bone]

ohh yeah

i have a theory the cave painting monster is a smaller version of the leviathan
if we're thinking of the same painting

[silver bridge]

Were they not so clever that they thought may be feeding a bazillion mantas (light creatures) to a giant dark creature will turn it into a giant light creature which they can then use for something? 🤔

[wise bone]

would light negate darkness?

i mean, if you think about the way darkness uses light, it seems the opposite happens

maybe they thought it would make the leviathan light if they gave it enough light but it just ended up feeding the leviathan

[compact trellis]

light burns away darkness, yet darkness can also consume light

[wise bone]

light and darkness are supposed to be a cycle, which didn't help the spirits

it's annoying that there's not really anything we can look at to compare to the leviathan in terms of how light consumption affects creatures of darkness
like, krills don't seem to eat the light, only scatter it, and it doesn't help them grow or become light or anything, it doesn't seem to affect them
so does light not affect the leviathan either?

or is it different, like the soot things from the fire trial

but that probably gets into a whole other plethora of lore to do with the fire trial

[tribal jungle]

@barren dirge sorry for ping I saw your bugreport and want to tell you the seasonal boat is being placed to the right side of wasteland social area

[barren dirge]

Ooh thanks for letting me know, I didn’t know it was changed 🤗

[wise bone]

i enjoy the fact that we just figured out with a large portion of this season’s lore in one day
there’s definitely a lot more but i think it’s something to consider an achievement

[silver bridge]

Given we have more time to go when it hits live... We might as well get to the bottom (pun intended) of it

[valid lintel]

It would be interesting to see if the last quest has something to do with the Huge Krill thingy.

[wise bone]

from what we’ve figured out, i think it will

maybe it’ll be able to sense the disturbance of the batteries / mantas and it’ll come back looking for more?

was it just me, or for the last quest we did, did the whole area shake after you got the last memory battery?

or was that a bug lol

also, i wonder what name live will give to the leviathan, bc it probably won’t be the same unless we outright tell them

[wise bone]

just had a thought, will expand when everyone's online
maybe the leviathan attacked because the manta production slowed
there's a point in sky history where the batteries stopped being produced, or there would still be batteries being produced lol
maybe because of the ending of this production the leviathan saw the spirits as no longer useful and just attacked them directly

[silver bridge]

apart from ways/doors opening, the sky world doesn't seem "alive" in the sense that I have now opened the wind paths but nothing much has changed in the sky realms as such. Just the seasonal area is restored to its glory. Like you say if what we do in sky realms and seasonal maps slowly creates impact elsewhere across sky it would be awesome and the world will feel more lively. So say season ends but now the leviathan is awakened to full power since disturbed it and the area now becomes very dangerous - it could lead to a part 2 for the season later to tame the beast.

similarly, since we created a way for darkness to be cleared by removing the clog in the wind paths..and because we have now enabled so much birds to cross over from various realms to windpath and ascend, may be forgotten ark should become a bit better, clouds should move and reveal a bit more sun/moon showing the area is healing because of our actions elsewhere. These kind of interaction with the world would be very interesting

[silver bridge]

definitely, I thought the whole chamber was draining of water OR the whole structure was lifting above water...but nothing happened after that much shaking

[wise bone]

that’s a really cool idea actually, and it would fit in with how old areas could be modified instead of abandoned

[wise bone]

what if the water wasn’t meant to rise, but to keep the leviathan from escaping

[silver bridge]

yeah I hate that majority of the seasonal maps are literally abandoned old ghost towns. and don;t seem to have much relation to the main realms other than having entry points and a bit of lore linked to them

[wise bone]

i think the problem is the lack of actual moving entities in the realms

the only things that move only move if you make them, so they are, truly, abandoned

[silver bridge]

that's why i really liked dreams season since it literally transformed a main area - valley colosseum when the season arrived... we need more seasons like that which create ripples across the sky world because of our actions elsewhere

[wise bone]

sky is not in its glory days, we’re exploring ruined kingdoms, and it’s just sort of empty other than the other skykids

which is why the interaction between skykids and dark / light animals is so important

if they didn’t affect the world, or at least give something to interact with, it would be a very boring world to be a skykid in

maybe the leviathan could escape and make its way to enchantment, and we have to repair the ark itself in order to fight the leviathan?

[silver bridge]

that is one of the reason it becomes boring pretty soon once you are through the main story line and done with some level of constellation, it starts becoming repetitive and grinding

[wise bone]

absolutely, i’m just sort of bored of live sky

unless you want to get all the cosmetics, there isn’t much to do any more

[silver bridge]

we need to feedback on this. Both in live that interaction of sky kid in one season should impact sky world and in beta about specific ideas for this season and its impact on other areas. I like the idea of it going to ark...may be a sinkhole opens leading to the depths in the ark area

[wise bone]

abyss is under the clouds, but it would be cool if it escaped through one of the big cloud holes and we had to chase it through

[silver bridge]

zooming 🚀 leviathan ? that would be something else

[wise bone]

i’ll definitely do a feedback on that it’d be really cool to see our ideas implemented, i think it would really help sky

[uncut ginkgo]

Hi

[wise bone]

hello :)

[devout fractal]

Beta chat really said

Although beta chats in general are always a little calmer

[minor dome]

Hello does amyone know when i new beta wave is coming?

[hazy pivot]

No one knows when invites will be ahead of time, but since they just did an invite wave recently it probably won't be for a while

[compact trellis]

direct quote form the FAQ: "These new waves go out as-needed when the number of active testers falls below a set threshold."

[proper bison]

They’re on an as-needed basis, but I recommend reading #beta-faq and finding the react you’re supposed to use to receive notifications for #beta-signup-info when the next wave does come, whenever that may be!

[minor dome]

Ahhh tysmm

[wise bone]

we have evidence to support the battery theory now
i’m thinking the mural is taking place sort of around either the tutorial or the second memory quest, those seem to line up with what is happening in the mural best

wait, i’ve found an actual mine

yeah the second memory quest, if i’m remembering it’s that one, is an abandoned, flooded mine

which supports the idea that it that area was not always full of water, that’s interesting

[bitter crane]

Please forgive me if this has already been answered, but does anyone know if the ultimate mask is inspired to a reference to Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind? I saw that movie recently and it seems really similar to the masks in the movie, although I can’t compare since I don’t have the mask myself

[subtle prairie]

it hasnt been outright confirmed but yeah, it looks really similar

[bitter crane]

If so, I think Ohms from the film would fit really well in the world of Sky! I understand how much of a copyright nightmare that would be though….

[solar lark]

lol only just realised that shipwright was changed cause there's already another shipwright

[subtle prairie]

*peeks in pointing, hide n seek and laidback pioneer* /lh

[wise bone]

i found another pig

[hasty glade]

Sky nomad you just spoke on what I always hoped the direction of sky would turn. World events are my dream direction for this game- seasons effecting entire realms as a sort post game plus for us older players

[wise bone]

there’s so little for veterans to do tbh

[hasty glade]

Sky feels very static in it's current iteration while every player I've talked with dreams of a breathing world and since were currently on seasons being the crank that moves the game forward any progress feels like centimeters

The legend of zelda devs for breath of the wild made a fantastic point of asking 'why are we doing things this way and why is it the formula'

[ I love this game tho absolutely no shade towards the team these are pondering thoughts ]

[wise bone]

i said this yesterday, but sky is a pretty dead world, not just gameplay wise but lore wise
the only other living things are the animals, which means the only connections you can really make are by manually reliving the spirits or playing with other people

[wise bone]

absolutely, sky will always have a special place in my heart

if you’ve played the game for years like i have, you’ve done pretty much all the game has to offer. candle run, go through oobs, eden run, uber, collect cosmetics, play instruments, dissect lore
and now, there’s pretty much nothing to do, because seasons just seem to focus on cosmetic collection instead of actually have new things to do

abyss is taking a step in the right direction, i love the new mechanics and that we have access to water now, but it’s sort of limiting that the only place we can properly use it is the seasonal area

which is why it’s important to allow interaction between new updates and old areas, to make the world seem properly alive

[vocal spindle]

You dont know, maybe other under water areas will be developed later now we can dive

[wise bone]

exactly, that’s what i’m saying

[vocal spindle]

Would love to see some coral reef s in sanctuary

[glossy shore]

Sanctuary: 💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥

[cunning hearth]

sanctuary really do be turning our phones into a hot pan

[regal dagger]

I'm sure designing architecture to explore underwater is time-consuming for the Devs to implement in all past realms( at least straight away)

What if we had the ability for a long term shared space to create our own underwater zone in deep water e.g. sanctuary? Forest broken bridge?shipwreck? Starlight cove?
We could place corals to grow, shells, plants, rock arches to creat spaces for others to explore/game in?

[cunning hearth]

that's probably even more demanding than the devs themselves creating new underwater maps considering you would have to create a whole new system

atm diving in most places outside of crystal bay is like swimming inside another dimension

[regal dagger]

I was thinking like the shared space concept but underwater.
But essentially it's all quite demanding to add these changes to all other past realms

[glossy shore]

That was my main concern for an underwater season, it’s just there won’t be much to do with the feature after the season concludes

[uncut ginkgo]

Utilizing the mechanic while expanding base game areas would be a smart move.

[wise bone]

a few more things i've noticed since i returned ~~i'm sorry for the constant lore chat it's just really interesting to me ~~

• the architecture seems a lot closer to valley than gw, big arches and the way buildings look like they've been stacked on each other is much more valley-esque than the grandiose, purpose-built buildings of wasteland (plus the lack of imagery of the king)
• there's a way up the tower but once you're up there the only thing you can do is go back down, if you're a spirit you can't fly so it seems the tower was used as a viewpoint
• i'm starting to think the krill trapped in there was supposed to be for the leviathan, since they can't use krill for the batteries but it may have been an experiment as to what the leviathan would have done when given a krill

[cunning hearth]

actually its closer to vault cause its just the vault pillars copy pasted ngl its a smart usage of existing models

[wise bone]

it seems to be a cross between vault and valley which is interesting considering it’s in wasteland

[cunning hearth]

the models may get replaced soon, a lot of them have holes and look like its there to be a placeholder

[glossy shore]

Yeah, the area is still very rough looking

[cunning hearth]

also this is the season with the most new environmental content (structures creatures plants) loads of model work to do

[uncut ginkgo]

The flying fish seem to be going by their own physics 😂

[dreamy kraken]

Helokopter helikopter

[frail mauve]

I can't graduate the new season I've changed the first ultimate mask gift and tgc removed it after the update!!!! The diving mask costs two hearts but I only have one heart left!!!

[devout fractal]

O o f

Well thats beta for ya, unfortunately.

[uncut ginkgo]

Does anybody know where I can find the wl in crystal bay?

[eternal igloo]

this might help? #beta-screenshots-videos message by shuga

[languid aspen]

||look for a hand icon and a grille on a small opening near the third seasonal quest location||

[sand berry]

Hello! I think this is the right place to ask - is a white Days of Feast cape currently being tested out in beta? I don't see anything about it in live. There's a screenshot in a DoF teaser but it looks like the snowflake cape from before tbh

[tribal jungle]

Yes it has been tested! The snowflake cape may return as well, WAFO!

@sand berry can you please delete or edit your message about cape color from #questions-and-help ? That's a beta spoiler - ah I see done , great job!

[sand berry]

Thanks Tib. It's been deleted.

Edit: I should mention the original person talking about this has not deleted it, so oh well.

[tribal jungle]

You can warn them about #rules or the !betaspoilers command. Otherwise you can send message link in #contact-the-mods

[silver bridge]

Succinctly put

[tropic moss]

Hello. Anyone else not seeing the boat for the season?

[young stag]

Best season till now

All things are unbelievable from small co.
Thanks for making sky amazing world

[lime goblet]

I think one of the biggest problems I have with this game is it’s lack of repeatable content - it has an incredible multiplayer aspect, but the sad thing is how underutilized it feels - the biggest activity you do with others is candle run or talk.. I do wish they had more fun aspects of gameplay, but I guess that’s something that we can only hope eventually makes it into the game

[lime goblet]

I guess that’s the other issue, how many new areas is sky going to add eventually? I feel like we have so many areas and people just don’t go to half of them anymore

[young stag]

Maybe tgc adding many areas for a purpose

[lime goblet]

The only area I go to is sanctuary and that’s cause it has a bunch of candles
I feel for some seasons, I would love it, if they expanded existing seasonal areas - to make them@more alive give more things to do in that area

[uncut ginkgo]

Yeah, the game will be massive. I was thinking in terms of just expanding the current realms but not in a seasonal way. Just like adding some features here, knocking a wall down there, maybe making some underwater areas that would be fun in Sanctuary, etc.

[lime goblet]

I don’t mean to compare genshin to sky but I think it is a pretty good example of how to handle a dead area. Dragonspine was really dead - no one visited the area - there’s not much to do. The recent update had a huge event in dragonspine and now the area feels ‘alive’ again.

I feel like sky needs something similar - an event or a season where the content of the season takes place in an existng area - instead of adding a new place to explore, we get more content in an existing place. And who knows it may even give developers time to add more game mechanics to the next season

[uncut ginkgo]

I've never played Genshin but that does sound like a smart strategy. We all know there are a few places less loved in Sky.

[cunning hearth]

personally i think some places are meant to be more dead than others like the branching paths of starlight desert, last time i went to those places everyone was sleeping

[proper bison]

It’s been moved to the GW social area! Enter the portal, go straight towards the bonfire, and then turn right ☺️

[lime goblet]

And I guess the other thing is how genshin used it’s version of shared spaces, personally I saw no use case for using it until they added a way to get in game materials.
And recently they added a mini game for playing with other friends

These aspects make the ‘home’/shared spaces part more useful? I guess.. idk how many people use shared spaces in sky?

[lime goblet]

I don’t think an area is meant to be dead :( if the objective of building an area is to have it empty and devoid of player interaction, then it defeats the purpose of adding it in the first place as a gameplay element :(

[wise bone]

this is a big part of it, there’s so many big open areas in sky that nobody visits any more because they don’t have anything to do there
for example ark, the ark itself is really pretty but it’s pretty inconvenient to get to and nobody goes there for spells because they’re accessible in home

[cunning hearth]

an area can have many purposes, the branching path of starlight desert was for plot

[wise bone]

it’s a shame that such pretty worlds are so abandoned

[cunning hearth]

i wouldn't say abandoned just less traffic

[wise bone]

i get that sky is a social game but sometimes you don’t want to candle run or talk to other players and it’s just so limited for that

[wise bone]

yeah, there’s always someone who will appreciate a certain area more than everyone else

[lime goblet]

Yea personally, im struggling with what to do with sky :( I’ve played for a long time now and I feel like I’ve seen and done all there is to be done in the game
I used to get all the season passes, but now I’m starting to debate whether I should or not - mainly because I’m not on sky often enough to wear those cosmetics, im kind of tired of candle running, I don’t always like to socialize, people don’t want to play the mini games in the game, it feels like the game’s focus has shifted a lot to traveling spirits and candles
And it feels exhausting haha

[wise bone]

that’s my thoughts exactly, thank you for putting them into words

[lime goblet]

A part of me is still attached to the game because of the memories that it gave me, but the other part is just realizing at 11:30 pm at night that I forgot to do dailies and I need to di them@before reset

[tropic moss]

Exactly my feelings

[uncut ginkgo]

Ooof. Shared Spaces. None of my friends use it, nor do I in Live, tbh. I'm not sure what would make it appealing without going against the idea of socialization, at least for me. The idea of mini games is something alot of folks would love to see in game though.

[cunning hearth]

that's just means you experienced the whole game and is getting tired of it
there isn't any shame in stopping

[wise bone]

i’ve been playing for 2 years as of the 14th and i’m just bored of the game
i’ve tried everything the game has to offer but as a mostly solo player it feels almost alienating how much the game is about playing with others
or maybe it’s bc i don’t know anyone irl that plays sky it’s a game you have to be devoted to

[wise bone]

at this point i’ve probably done every daily quest there is

[lime goblet]

For me the idea would be super simple, add mini games, for instance they have the hoops, imagine:

1. you could make the hoops glow the way they do in the seasonal quest when you fly through them
2. the hoops could be placed higher up in the sky
3. shared spaces is expanded
4. you can place more than 1 of a prop type
5. tada in this manner you’ve just created your own mini game to be played with other friends

This is my issue - sky doesn’t give us a way of interacting with others in a non passive way, and it doesn’t add elements to the game that could allow this either

[wise bone]

does anyone remember when they tried out prebeta minigames in assembly testing?

[lime goblet]

The best memory I have of village is playing hide n seeek with the emote there with a group of friends. It was honestly so fun hahaha
Wish they had widened the area of hide n seek though

[uncut ginkgo]

Yeah, that was nice. Even if it wasn't meant to be there.

[lime goblet]

Yea, im personally slowing down in sky, im not gonna be getting the pass next season… but I am worried of how many other people like me exist in the game

[wise bone]

maybe my perception of sky from a social standpoint is limited because i don’t really play with other people as much as everyone else seems to

i’ve always been a very solo player, i’ve missed out on a lot of the social parts of the game because of it

[lime goblet]

I think sky already has the background setup for an amazing multiplayer game, but it just feels like it limits itself to such interaction being chats :(
All the props have so much they can add to this aspect, but they have too many restrictions

[wise bone]

it is sort of worrying how many people share this sentiment, i’ve talked to a lot of people who seem to be burnt out

[lime goblet]

If I’m honest with you… even when you play socially the activities are limited to chatting or group candle runs :(

[wise bone]

tbf, they did do quite well with non-chat communication, emotes and honking do quite well for people i don’t have chat with

i think sky’s shortcoming is how focused the game is on the social aspect despite not giving many ways to express this

[lime goblet]

Yea but that’s what I mean, spamming emotes is just not fun after 10 minutes
It also isn’t fun that I can’t find the emote I want to use fast enough

[wise bone]

you can chat, fly around, relive emotes, candle run? otherwise i don’t really know

and i’ve done those so many times it’s become repetitive

[cunning hearth]

you can say the same thing for many games, its the same thing just in a different pattern

[wise bone]

that’s true

all games will become boring and repetitive no matter what they give

[cunning hearth]

this is why many games are built on progress, the desire to get stronger.... sky doesn't have that, instead its to look better

[lime goblet]

I think games tend to have something about them that adds new ‘content’ for instance, for sky, this is seasonal content… im saying instead of seasonal content, they should concentrate on making the content, dynamic interaction with other players - mini games, being able to setup games and activities in shared spaces etc… they honestly have the potential and the ground to do this

for genshin, this ‘content’ is characters, each character has a unique gameplay, trust me when I say, roaming the same world with a different set of characters feels like you’re playing a diff game sometimes.. the mechanics you use and how you need to think about traversing the world all change depending on which character you’re using

[wise bone]

i would love to see an update that gives players new ways to interact with each other, not ‘wow new cosmetics!’

the new diving mechanic has a lot of potential but unless it’s implemented elsewhere it’s not going to be very useful

[lime goblet]

Yea the game feels like it lost itself in that manner, every season, we get a new area that’s going to be abandoned eventually.. and forgotten about unless there’s sanctuary level candle wax or a spirit relive quest

That said I’m still not going to quit sky, I feel like the devs need time and I’m willing to wait to see if they can do something about this..

I’m just not going to be able to buy passes, cause I’m literally not logging in until an hour or 30 minutes before reset to do dailies

[wise bone]

absolutely, they work wonders for a dev team of 40 sky is such an incredible game and they do so much for the player base

we need more non-interplayer interaction

[cunning hearth]

and that 'content' in sky is seasonal content, which bring in passes which bring in money just like genshin releases new characters to bring in more money
difference is genshin earns so much and employs so many people that they can work on more side content
sky can't work on much side content without losing focus on seasonal content because they don't employ as much devs and can't stray from making more seasonal content and lose revenue

[wise bone]

it’s just as much the pressure of the gaming industry as it is the game itself it’s unfortunate that they have to prioritise money over other things because otherwise there’d be no sky at all

[lime goblet]

The seasonal content can be additons to existing seasons though, people buy passes for the cosmetics —- they can add new spirits to existing regions and add more gameplay elements
Like imagine they gave you an underwater area in sanctuary??? It’s an addition to an existing area with new spirits and content

[wise bone]

i think everyone i’ve had this discussion with has agreed sanc would be great for diving

[lime goblet]

I guess what im saying is, they don’t have to create completely new areas all the time, they can add to existing ones too

Imagine they added a season to village next winter where they expand the area and give us a new gameplay mechanic… maybe add a sledding race? And new spirits to village??

Not creating new areas will save dev time for other aspects, and it will help rejuvenate older areas

[cunning hearth]

im not apposed to expansions of seasons just pointing out there is an extent of free content in sky

[lime goblet]

I personally think they made a mistake with traveling spirits :(

Unfortunately a lot of people end up waiting for spirits to return over buying the pass during the season

[glossy shore]

I’m unsure how true that is, I haven’t been enjoying seasons as much since Sanctuary, but I still earn the gift pass just because the wait for TS is so agonizing (I’ve been waiting 2 years+ for you-know-who)

[silver bridge]

Very good discussions in the past hour. Do feedback either in live if generic about seasons or in beta feedback if specific about season of leviathan

[lime goblet]

I’ve sent such feedback a while back already haha and added somethings to wishes channels too…
But developing takes time so it’s kind of silly to expect these changes to be included soon

[oak zenith]

or maybe adding a reward for collecting a certain amount of light from the existing races 👀 i know ALL of us as moths tried to collect all of the light only to be told by vets taht nothing happens...

[lime goblet]

Oh yea I have so many complaints about the races in general… how it’s supposed to be a race, but your opponent gets server split from you or how even if you win, there’s no indication of the winner anywhere? Sigh the ‘races’ are just boring

[glossy shore]

It used to be a race in the olden days, predating global launch…

[oak zenith]

winner of the race gets a crown accessory until they leave the area, plus an extra candle, and then if all light particles are collected, the winner gets to keep the crown

[lime goblet]

But once you collect the crown once, there’s no reason to win another race after is there

[oak zenith]

hmmmmm trueeee maybe we stick with just the extra candle for a regualr winner, and then if all the light is collected, everyone gets a crown until they leave the area

then there's motivation regardless

[glossy shore]

Eden crown to be specific

[oak zenith]

after winning the race x amount of times you get to keep it, and then it helps with SOMETHING in eden, maybe its similar to the rocket cape's function and you can meet the prince/king/whatever is over there, or maybe it gives you an ascended candle bonus!

bam, new game mechanic, new cosmetic, revives the race

[solid marsh]

I do miss the eden crown when it was teased, I'd be wearing that all the time if I could lol

[lime goblet]

I find glowing crowns tough on my eyes… big reason why I don’t wear the ult from season of prophecy ;-; I love the mask if only it didn’t have that glowing ring, I’d wear it haha

[solid marsh]

You know, that is absolutely fair enough! Id wear the cosmetic if it was simply the halo and not the anubis mask, haha.

[tribal jungle]

In beta nothing is "teased" If it was a thing you could find a lot of images of it.

[rose wagon]

where is the entrance to the new erea 😂 i know its in golden wasteland but i feel like ive flown through the entire thing without finding it

[tribal jungle]

It's on your right as you enter wasteland social area

[solid marsh]

Actually, there is! When Lights awaits was still in pre-release beta, IGN had a gameplay showcase for E3 2019 featuring clips of Sky. Within a few scenes was the eden crown. Never appeared in beta nor live, but rather shown as an item to be released in the future.

[tribal jungle]

Light awaits is not Sky CoTL. And I have no idea how is this season test related.

[uncut ginkgo]

All sizes of sky creature comparison when

[uncut ginkgo]

Sky cotl is Light Awaits, just a bit modified and more gentle on phones too

[hot perch]

Hi I was just curious and such, but to anyone else who purchased the new spell nodes, what did you get? I only received trail spells and resize potions, and I was wondering if that was pure luck or if they’re heavily weighted.

[mighty gate]

someone said they got umbrella spell from new blessing icon, can't remember who tho

[glossy shore]

I’ve gotten the umbrella spell too

It’s hard to tell what else I got when they’re not organized…

[devout fractal]

Its just pure rng i think

Better pray to RNJesus ig

[patent ice]

Is there krill in the third quest?

my thalassophobia won't let me do it then-

[uncut ginkgo]

The Krill is on the 4th quest, not the 3rd. The 1st-3rd quests doesn't involve Krills yet at that point

[patent ice]

Oh thank god

[compact trellis]

aah i mixed u the third/fourth my bad

[patent ice]

It's ok!!

[uncut ginkgo]

It's okay

[patent ice]

this season is hell for my phobia but I push through

...eventually-

[uncut cradle]

It depends on what I get out of it for me to endure borderline panic attacks over a game 👀

[ornate rover]

Oddly, I suffer from thalassophobia, but for some reason games don't trigger it for me. I hope you can overcome yours (thalassophobia or aquaphobia in general) in the virtual world also and hopefully IRL.

[uncut ginkgo]

It does cause me a bit of anxiety, ngl 👉🏼👈🏼

[tulip mantle]

You cannot see the abyss boat till you've reached vault, does ark boat has a similar requirement?

[tribal jungle]

I don't think so, only recent seasons had vault requirement. Correct me if I'm wrong

[subtle prairie]

i think you either have to finish valley or wasteland, i think the enchantment announcement should say which

it didn't specify so maybe there was never a requirement in the first place

[lyric solar]

Where is the ship to go to the new season area? I know it was in shipwreck, but I can’t find it where it was before….

[glossy shore]

It’s now at Wasteland social to the right

[lunar sentinel]

Have a guess.... Where could it possibly be....

||HINT: the same place as the last 4 seasons||

[devout fractal]

Try poking around wastelands social space

[wise bone]

i know i’m very late to this message but i’d love to see a fully finished light awaits i don’t think something so powerful would work on anything other than a computer or maybe a console tho

if sky is this impressive on mobile with a 30-40 person dev team, imagine a game with a big budget and 100 devs

[valid lintel]

I managed to reach the bottom of the abyss without losing winged light

[uncut ginkgo]

omg congrats

getting to the bottom is surprisingly difficult (and spooky)

[valid lintel]

Turns out playing instruments underwater doesnt make you drown, just play an instrument at a bubble area and try to make your skykid sink and slide by deep honking.

Im gonna report the bug

[uncut ginkgo]

instruments save the day with poor sky kids trying to swim

[uncut ginkgo]

There’s a bit of bubbles in the bottom of abyss

[valid lintel]

Yep, you can go deeper tho, although there isnt a visible bottom, theres an invisible 1 stopping the player from proceeding past a certain point looks like

[ornate rover]

For those who said no to this post: It is correct. Dreams, Assembly, LPP, and Flight all have entrances in the beginning of the realm they're in. (Social space or right after it for Assembly and Flight) Now, Abyss boat is in the social space of GW.

[normal vale]

Is this where people discuss spoilers in sky

[hard dagger]

This channel is for people to discuss content in the beta version of Sky related to the upcoming season

[normal vale]

Ok thanks!

[quasi jacinth]

Is days of love still Active in beta?

[compact trellis]

as cool as i like the idea of a bigger team, it does make things far more complicated (making sure everyone is in tandem and no issues arise)
plus a bigger company in charge might end up with... unnecessary monetization

[noble stag]

the "fully finished" Sky: Light Awaits is Sky: Children of the Light. We published the same game files for both apps for about 11 months before it was retired at the end of Enchantment. all LA accounts were transferred to CotL before the global release in July of 2019.

[mint dove]

Will you guys fix the clam shells? My skid absorbs the wax but my candle bar doesn’t go up. (It only went up once out of all the times I collected it so I’m wondering if that’s a feature)

[strange drum]

Really hope the rebreather gives a longer air supply , or it just won’t seem worth it for the pass

[uncut ginkgo]

Be sure to share your positive suggestions and feedback in #beta-feedback 😊

[mortal minnow]

It challanging

[uncut ginkgo]

I want a giant octopus to be added

[soft zodiac]

(ping off)
Ooo

"Fully Finished"
Then what is CotL to LA ?
An upgrade ?, Revamp of LA ?, Etc ?
I've been calling LA a beta/another version of CotL

[somber gate]

Beta was always just beta. Light Awaits was the soft release of the game in a select number of countries. It existed in parallel for a while, because players in LA needed to connect their account to Game Center in order to move over to CotL.

[silver inlet]

Anyone saw the boat to Abyss 🤣
I found it missing at the port🤣

[devout fractal]

That’s not the case. We don’t know any more about traveling spirits than Live players do

We’re not really time travelers in that sense

[subtle prairie]

we don't know about tses early 😔 sometimes we actually get the wrong ts, like rally during days of summer to test out the ts prop system or sunbathe last week just by mistake

[wraith axle]

Am i the only one who thinks the hair tassel ultimate gift is a little underwhelming? I wish it was a kelp hair accessory or something that stands out.

[tribal jungle]

For me half if not even all ults are underwhelming but I like the emotes and some not ult capes. Since dreams I haven't found ults that have the wow factor

[devout fractal]

Tbh i love the flight ultimate pants though

I’ve been wearing them nonstop cus they’re almost like a longer dress

But this seasons ults are definitely rather lackluster

[tribal jungle]

I like them too that's almost a full exception

[devout fractal]

I feel like the ult mask just doesn’t look pretty at all,,,

Function is good but i really wish it has more aesthetic appeal to it..?

The cape is nice but id rather they just make the necklace standalone or redo the cape itself

The braid is cute but its really nothing too special

[devout fractal]

I feel like it would work a lot better if the respirator is black like darkstone…? Ill draw up some ideas when i have time

[subtle prairie]

i kinda wish the braid attached to the back of your head and was super long we don't have much in the way of long braids so it'd be nice to have one

[devout fractal]

Oh maybe… hmm

Im not so sure myself

[subtle prairie]

the color needs to be fixed though, i get that not all hairstyles are exactly the same color but it's too bright even for the basegame styles 😔

[devout fractal]

But that wouldn’t be a bad idea. I need to get back to work now but

[devout fractal]

Also the thingies jiggling feels so wrong 🌞🌞🌞

[tribal jungle]

They would be very valuable #beta-feedback

[devout fractal]

Alright

I wanted to pop in and say that i feel like a hair accessory on the back of the head might not work the best since it wouldn’t be very prominent (you could also argue that because its on the back you see it more in flight so i dunno )

I think it would be cool to decorate the braid with little green jewels and have one on both sides OR have a bigger one on the back

[wraith axle]

Ooooo i like that idea, like extensions for short hair

I just want like a green sea kelp hair accessory, like longer earrings or two hair tassels. I need to draw what I’m thinking maybe…

[devout fractal]

Do it omg

[quasi jacinth]

I don’t want to know where they are, but has anyone found all 4 seasonal spirits?

[wise bone]

all 4 should be accessible, if you can’t find them i’d suggest submitting a bug report or feedback

[woven pike]

The spirits can't be relived if you've activated one of the seasonal quests -- you'd need to finish that first if that's the case

[dark basin]

What type of instruments are you all playing underwater that are allowing you to go deeper? I have tried several instruments and they're all greyed out while I'm underwater.

[uncut ginkgo]

Grayed out, wdym? Iirc I've tried the pipa and kalimba. I just kinda float when I playing and the instrument is at arm's length when I'm not hitting a note. It's pretty funny.

[dark basin]

It doesn't allow me to open the instrument underwater, I've tried on top of the water too but then I'm not sinking

It will allow you to use the fireworks rod underwater which is gorgeous I recommend but still lose air that way

[uncut ginkgo]

What instruments did you try? Did you try the pipa or kalimba?

[dark basin]

By pipe what are you referring to? I've tried winter piano, both flutes, xylophone, ocarina, drums, Bell, trumpet, guitar all are same. They only let you play it floating on the top of the water if you go underwater they're greyed out unable to open

People here mentioned that they were able to swim deeper because the instruments allowed them to not lose air this is what I'm wanting to duplicate I keep running out of air even with the ult mask and I want to explore.

Oh yes I misread your name pipa 😅 yes I tried that as well

[woven pike]

I wonder if the behaviour's changed between builds -- last I checked, I could take out instruments when I was in an oxygen-rich zone, but as soon as I entered an area where I'd start losing oxygen, the instrument gets put away

[dark basin]

Hmmm wonder if that's why. I'll try by bubbles then

[uncut ginkgo]

The pipa.The stringed instrument from Dreams. So we just went and we didn't have trouble playing underwater with the trumpet and xylophone. The problem we did notice was what Spear just mentioned.

[dark basin]

Yes thank you so much Spearmonkey that was my problem 😁

[ashen iris]

Guys is the boat missing for you?

[uncut ginkgo]

Look into gw social area, to your right where return home shrine is

[ashen iris]

Okay thank you!

[cunning hearth]

@uncut ginkgo no its the eel thingy that swims around it got textures now
funnily enough they did add kelp this update

the krills in crystal bay seems to be taking a holiday

[wraith axle]

Yes kelp!!!! They need to make a kelp hair accessory to replace the hair tassel ultimate gift

I want to be drenched in kelp

[jagged tusk]

Yes, I didn't come across any krill either.

[tribal jungle]

Deep call seems to help almost nothing in exploring underwater with holding hands. It would be great if deep call added more breath because now we can spam honk underwater both without moving and it just keeps air meter at the same level not being able to move if we don't want our friend we lead drop a winged light.
Social underwater explanation should be more inspiring with effective deep call recharge.

[hard dagger]

I'm not sure what I think of the updated boat

It seems consistent with other boats in the game, but it also seems like it's less interesting or more disorganized or something

[rigid haven]

I don’t like it personally-

[tribal jungle]

It seems to me they didn't have enough time to add proper textures to it so they added the good old Sky boat

[hard dagger]

Not that I remember exactly what the old boat looked like

[rigid haven]

The old one looked like a bit of a pirate ship, it was very unique

[tribal jungle]

However it lacked details in textures

[rigid haven]

True, but changing the whole shape for your basic sky boat is a little of a downgrade imo

[umbral shard]

It doesn’t really stand out as a “pirate” ship. Hopefully, there will be newer iteration(s)

[hard dagger]

I would like it if they at least added the net back

[tribal jungle]

The scattered props don't look good on the new boat to me

[hard dagger]

I thought the net was fun

[cunning hearth]

the new ship is more lore friendly.... personally i find it looking like a viking longship

[rigid haven]

I imagine the crew living on the ship and I don’t imagine them living on that one while the old one had a cabin, nets, a mast…

[umbral shard]

Which one was the 4th quest: the deep dive with krills or the one before that? Just wondering because the barrier is still up around the sunken tower (used to be) guarded by krills.

[hard dagger]

Yeah, with all the ruins, I can't see scavenging just being a day trip

[cunning hearth]

all flying boats follow the same flat top recipe including forgotten ark, only sailing ships are different (shipwreck)

[rigid haven]

Yeah! Plus, Ark is another boat that doesn’t look like other sky boats, so I don’t see why they made that one so.. unoriginal

[hard dagger]

The Ark was still big enough to potentially have cabins and such, even with similarities to some of the other boats

I still think it'd be neat if this area had two entrances

[cunning hearth]

ark is actually similar to other flying boats
elevated stern and prow
paddles
side mounted diamonds
only difference is in size which is why it has an interior

there is closed top boats in concept art but those are imperial boats

[hard dagger]

I need to actually leave feedback on this sometime, and it could have changed in the past few updates, but did anyone else feel like there wasn't really much to point you to where the quest giver is in the area?

[languid aspen]

Ye. She’s not really in the storyline of the quests, looks like some kind of helper/apprentice in spirit memories but that’s all to it

Oh you said where, nvm

But I think her presence there is a bit confusing to me, like I don’t see a reason that she has to be there

[hard dagger]

I didn't actually find her the first time I was in the area. I had to check with the quest giver at Home to get an idea of where to look

I'd gone on the boat, but I guess I'd missed seeing her there

[visual egret]

i remember going “ooh ship!” and i went over there and found the quest giver that way

[languid aspen]

Wish she’s more incorporated into the story/quests

[hard dagger]

I just went straight to diving, since that's kinda where I felt I was being directed after I got the diving ability

That's more or less why I think the area would benefit from two entrances

One entrance where it is now, outside the cave where you get the diving ability, and another from Shipwreck that brings you closer to where the boat is

[silver bridge]

The mural still has the whale 🐳 tail in it. But the actual structure has been removed above water

[cunning hearth]

just some shenanigans after doing some restructuring, would be resolved eventually

[regal dagger]

Has anyone not done quest 4 yet?
I get the feeling with the polish that the little pillars should turn on the elevator from the bottom and open the doorway at water surface level?
Anyone able to check if the new quest 4 does anything?

[hard dagger]

I also just feel like having multiple entrances to an area makes it feel more connected to the main maps

[umbral shard]

I had no idea what was waiting for me in the new area. I went straight into the cave and followed from there. Once able to dive, I started to explore the underwater realm and when I felt it was starting to emit som menacing vibes, and I started losing air, that’s when I swam up. The transition to finding the QG did not feel like a natural progression from the underwater area somehow. Maybe the QG could fish you out once you start losing air and that’s how you find the boat? Or something like that.

[shadow garden]

You should be able to replay the quests. I think they implemented that feature during Flight

[regal dagger]

Really? I can only replay the cutscenes and there's no meditate on the quests this time to reactivate them I found...

[hard dagger]

You can only replay quests if they're not activated by the quest giver. Since you activate Flight quests by sitting in a meditation circle, you can redo them at any time

[languid aspen]

I don’t like the sound indicator for lack of oxygen. The heartbeat sound is way too unnerving for me, maybe some breath sound?

[shadow garden]

Aaahhhh bummer :((

[hard dagger]

Or else maybe change where the boat drops you off so that you find the quest giver first, then get the diving ability as part of the first quest or something

[silver bridge]

Did anyone feel the leviathan is bigger than last build? Or am I imagining stuff?

[hard dagger]

It is a bummer, I agree. I really want to be able to redo Enchantment and other quests (which is why the cyan light is part of my nickname right now, I miss it)

[opaque breach]

asking here for the sake of slightly panicking due to the way I see skykids potentially being destroyed

..........what are your breathing headcanons? how does it make sense? what is skykid biology

it happened with "all creatures are born naturally into the world" with krill for me, not wanting an even bigger chunk of perception and an even more important one ruined

[slate valve]

Well

Fire needs oxygen

[opaque breach]

yeah you told me, I like that idea

[hard dagger]

Are you able to state what about it is bothering you?

There are some emotes that involve breathing

[silver bridge]

Did anyone feel the phones heating up with latest update? Or dropped fees in high performance mode?

[slate valve]

Before this swimming mechanic, it could have been the skykids imitating the spirit breathing

Vol doesn't like the idea of skykids being so human like-

[opaque breach]

very personal and I'm unsure if this has a place here but uh
the idea of skykids being too 'real'/organic kinda hurts my suspension of disbelief - I like the characters being mysterious, them having functions like this sorta ruins the magic and fantasy for me? It makes everything feel too much like the real world in a sense, hurts the escapism of this game world
the blinking distresses me for similar reasons apart from it being generally kinda freaky as an animation

[hard dagger]

Alright, that's very fair, thank you for explaining

[silver bridge]

Or take it this way - in this story, the depths have just started getting corrupted... Hence unlike dark water we lose our light slowly

[opaque breach]

this is probably better for some people, they might prefer relatability to distance from it - and I'm glad for them at least
the blinking is making it harder for me to project from feeling like skykids have defined personalities we have no say in, despite Sky as a whole being about self-expression
feeling like this would only exacerbate that

[reef cradle]

let's stick to seasonal (and beta) topics please

[opaque breach]

aye, sorry
where would be a good place to discuss this?

[hard dagger]

Diving (and the idea we might need air) is a part of this season, though?

[slate valve]

^^

[opaque breach]

not dealing well with that fact is what I mean
but yeah will move elsewhere if needed

[hard dagger]

I'm not trying to argue, I'm just not sure what exactly your thoughts are

[reef cradle]

diving yes, but it was starting to go into something more general so i thought i'd send a lil reminder

[shell fossil]

Thanks for sticking to the topic, folks

[hard dagger]

Vol, may I ping you?

[opaque breach]

yeah you can, thank you for asking

[solid marsh]

I find it humerous that some things did not move with the rest of the map when everything was shifted

[silver bridge]

Deferred to Polishing Round2

[wraith axle]

Me too! I was playing with the net today and actually thought it’d be cool to be able to sit inside the net. Also, add more rooms inside the boat, create a little nook with nets and fire fire?

[hard dagger]

I just want to be able to get pictures pretending I'm caught in the net

[silver bridge]

Has the count of krills reduced to 2?

[wraith axle]

Oh didn’t think about that!!!! I wish we could replay the quest for abyss. I wanna see the polishes!

[wraith axle]

I WANT TO REDO ENCHANTMENT QUESTS TOOOOOOOO, I want it to start off muted to so i can watch the ship come to life.

[winter nexus]

Gonna miss the cheese boat

[silver bridge]

On the cracked masks - is it a sign of some side effects of working too closely with crystals and the charging mechanisms? Like effects of radiation in say nuclear plant if there wasn't proper protection? 🤔

[wraith axle]

Me too, i liked the golden boat, golden wasteland…i mean i figured wasteland was once gilded in gold, like ancient Egyptians.

Swimming for me is getting easier, i figured out some techniques. Losing air and time is still awkward, knowing what’s safe and what’s a risk.

[silver bridge]

I definitely feel the water meter being slower than before or it starts depleting slightly later that when it used to in older builds

[wraith axle]

Maybe I’m slow, are crystals the ‘resources’?

[silver bridge]

Yeah seems so. But the crystals we had in the cutscenes were lot smaller and didn't glow

[wraith axle]

I rather enjoyed your response! If you continue in #lore-discussion-spoilers let me know…lore of abyss is super interesting to me

[opaque breach]

Beta content isn't allowed in there is why I brought it up in here

[compact trellis]

the needing to 'breathe' makes a little sense for me;
if we're sustained by fire than we need oxygen for it t burn

[wraith axle]

Oh ok…then I’m confused Hahahha sorry! Liked your opinion tho. 💞

[ashen ginkgo]

@opaque breach sorry for the ping, but this may help you

Candles need oxygen to keep burning (all flames do), so it's not necessarily a flame thing. Maybe it helps you abstract the concept!

[compact trellis]

haha i beat you to it >:)

[opaque breach]

this is a common perspective? nice
thinking about it that way helps

[honest sand]

Where is the boat now? I’ve been looking for it for awhile now.

[compact trellis]

social space (unless they moved it again)

[wraith axle]

Yea, i figure we need breath for sure! I’ve thought of pockets of air instead of bubbles? Like a gated room maybe where i can rest from swimming?

[honest sand]

I’m looking near the social area but I can’t find it

[visual egret]

you can find it in wasteland’s social space, go a little past the return home shrine and the boat is there :>

[honest sand]

Oh ok

[compact trellis]

on the right side yea

[honest sand]

Thank you

[subtle sail]

I cant update the newest version of beta. Can anyone help me ;-;?

[tribal jungle]

I'm missing the whale tail statue from the seasonal area.
I'm missing the scrapped ultimate mask so much the only somewhat friendly looking mask. It looked like it had a half smile.

[plain owl]

Ios or Android? did you see update or still don't show it?

[plain owl]

hmm, i still see all masks 😯

[tribal jungle]

Not for long

[plain owl]

that is cool mask

[subtle sail]

Ios, i clicked to update but it only update a lil then stop

[wraith axle]

Sometimes i have to try a couple times before it updates on my iOS and keep the TestFlight app open

[plain owl]

ahhh, IDK about ios, maybe need to clean catchies or to restart device

[subtle sail]

I will try, thanks you guys

[zealous copper]

if the download doesnt show progress, just cancel the download; it should update (had the same isssue and did what i said)

im on iOS too so yeah,, it worked for me, and it should work for you

[subtle sail]

When ...?

[zealous copper]

it kinda worked but it only puts you to a previous build

[jagged tusk]

If the download does not proceed after rebooting the device, try checking the free space on the device.

[terse pendant]

i’m really disappointed to realize that holding hands with friends while diving underwater and deep calling no longer helps to recharge our oxygen… this has put a spanner in our diving exploration when the season is all about exploring the abyss. i’ll be submitting feedback on this.

[wise bone]

wasn’t the rechargability of diving with friends pretty much negatable though? i haven’t tested the new build with friend diving but in the previous build isca and i didn’t find it was useful enough for anything

[raven oyster]

Hello! New update I see. I was wondering if those cute little plants that used to be in the shallow diving area still in there somewhere? I like the seaweed and the new corals but those little plants really gave some cute ambience to the shallow waters.

Any opinions regarding the new seaweed change?

[terse pendant]

i’m not sure how it was like for you. but there were 4 of us, and we went in pretty deep into the krill tower all the way down, explored around where there were no bubbles and we found that the honking really helped. we could have stayed there a really long time if we hadn’t gotten krilled.

[cunning hearth]

i for one like both of them but if i had to choose i like the previous plant as the seaweed is a tad bit big
the previous plant got replaced by seaweed btw

[wise bone]

ahh, it’s probably because there were only 2 of us and 4 of you
that’s interesting actually, i wonder what an 8-group would look like

[feral night]

I really don’t like that we can drown. Not drowning made this game a lot easier and it was one of the things about Sky that I appreciated. I don’t find it very enjoyable having to worry about it when the point is to explore.

[terse pendant]

8 group would be pure chaos but the fun type 🤿

[floral snow]

boat smalled
also i kinda miss the old plants-

[raven oyster]

I agree, the seaweed seems to take up the frame when entering the area whilst the old plants gave it a more simple and charming look.

About to add this to feedback, the old plants really had their charm

[wise bone]

i haven’t been able to look around the new area because it’s 1:30 hope it’s fun tho

[cunning hearth]

i would actually like the aquatic plants to have a more sky twist, rather the same thing every underwater section of a game goes for

[floral snow]

i mean there have to be some drawbacks to it
tho i do think oxygen shouldn't deplete as fast
or we should get water breathing spells that last longer than the ult mask?

[raven oyster]

Speaking if the ult mask, does it still give you an extra 5 seconds underwater or did it change?

[feral night]

I just wish they’d left it like it was before, it was fine the way it was. I came on beta for the first time in awhile and find the breathing mechanic to be very stressful…

[terse pendant]

we haven’t dived with the rebreather yet. we did do some experiments diving in a group of 2 or 3 without the mask. for two of us, with or without chibi mask, even at differing height, we lost oxygen at the same rate. but our other friend who was a little taller than me, had more oxygen, we can’t figure out why

[floral snow]

tall skykids can store more lungs in them
probably just another small detail tgc added?

[regal hill]

I miss the old boat

[robust light]

Same 😩

[vapid ocean]

Did the entrance to the Abyss area change or is my game bugged? I’m in the crab fields and I don’t see the boat anywhere

[compact trellis]

social space on right (past home shrine)

[vapid ocean]

Oh that’s much easier to get to lol, thank you

[carmine flint]

Hey, i need help
how much is the breathing mask ult? i spent one of my seasonal hearts on the broken mask thing before it was removed

[compact trellis]

you're screwed, it;s 2 hearts so you cant get it

[carmine flint]

oh no

[uncut ginkgo]

Finally no more krills

[robust light]

Wait, it requires 2 hearts now?!

Oh jeez...

[vapid ocean]

That happened to me in beta testing for Assembly for that season’s ult mask. Unfortunately, there’s nothing you can do, but you can look forward to getting it in live!

[carmine flint]

i no longer play live, but it's alright

[compact trellis]

to make up for the 1 heart that the cracked mask used to cost
so there are all 4 now

[robust light]

At least I got a chance before update.

But I feel sorry for those, who didn't get the mask

I hope that price wil be changed again to make mask more available

[carmine flint]

Is the reason why the next quest is 48 days away because it's still in development? is the timer a placeholder and will it change when the quest is finished?

[robust light]

As it was said at beginning of season, last two quests will be available at January.
They still working at quests

[carmine flint]

Thank you!

[compact trellis]

probably not, but it would be cool if they gave everyone a free heart to make up for the people who got stuck

[carmine flint]

i hope so, it doesn't seem too bad since the people who got stuck already did spend a heart beforehand

[limber shadow]

Sorry for the ping.. I encounter this too I thought it was a bug? I love them in new seasonal area

[uncut ginkgo]

I thought there were no krills left anymore ,but im shocked i encountered one in the deep area lol

[uncut ginkgo]

I unsurely think it's a bug since it's not mentioned in the patch notes maybe to reduce the difficulty of the quests moreover to wander the area more freely

[limber shadow]

I love that quest because it was so dramatic and thrilling.. But I understand the decision

[uncut ginkgo]

if you don't like the current state you can always leave a feedback

[limber shadow]

I am leaving one. Thank you for the kind reminder!

[compact trellis]

i appreciate the changes knowng that people with fears of water/ocean will have an easier time without having to worry on krills over on top of the phobia they already have

[frosty dawn]

I found the giant fish and it was actively swimming...scared the honk out of me but oh my god it was so cool

[untold heron]

Do you know why they were taken out? That was my favourite part of all of Sky.

[cunning hearth]

it may be a bug, we don't know

[uncut ginkgo]

No the krills were not removed entirely from sky, just particularly from abyss area but there's still leftover krills there

[untold heron]

I’m referring to them not being in the tower. The tower with krill in Abyss was my favourite thing in all of Sky.

[compact trellis]

"Ktjn - 3 Krill in a Trenchcoat — 12/02/2021
if it feels like a bug, submit a bug report, QA and the design team will determine if things are working as intended or not"

basically if you arent sure report it anyway

[untold heron]

Thx, ik to do this, I like to check here first.

[compact trellis]

just a reminder for anyone dw!

[uncut ginkgo]

ah i see,yes krills aren't there anymore and as i said, i mean im unsure,idk where it was taken out. If you don't like how it is you can leave a feedback or report the bug to be addressed later on

[untold heron]

I did already.😊💕

[frosty dawn]

my best guess for the krill being removed intentionally from the tower is so theres easier acess to it so exploration to check for bugs and such are safer and less panic enduced, specially since it got some changes and such to the environment (I kinda appreciate it since I got to dive deeper and take more pictures without fear but do miss the krill moving about). But it could absolutely be a bug with new items being added in but idk report away...

[untold heron]

I did. 😊💕thx for replying. That makes sense about them being removed for bug checking purposes. I hope it’s not permanent, as I said, bc I loved that and I’m saying this as someone with substantial krill terror. Lol. I loved it so much. Reported/left feedback. Thx again.

[uncut ginkgo]

The krills being removed wasn't mentioned from the patchnotes if im literate enough so it's better to give visible regards about it

[clear kindle]

Can someone tell me if the dark color of capes is intentional I think with Season of LP we had enough dark capes

[cunning hearth]

wafo

[limber shadow]

I'm not sure if it's intentional or not. But I humbly disagree that we have enough dark capes. I love the new updated colours where they increased the red and green in all current seasonal cosmetics. The design also kinda refresh my eyes from the bright and fluffy flight cosmetics I think the current cosmetics suit the narrative well?

[stable comet]

wait and find out... but i think the current version should be the update ones i think.. to suit the theme

[compact trellis]

the LP capes were actually pretty colourful in different lighting, lamplighter has blue tones, and star collector's looks pretty purple
they all do look similar in dark though

[regal hill]

o.O
the breather mask now gives 10 seconds instead of 5 seconds of air

[stuck scroll]

I wish the mask could give unlimited air...this is not helping my fear in deep waters🥲

[regal hill]

unlimited air would be too powerful
it would basically make the Ult mask a necessity whenever people wanted to explore around the Abyss

[carmine stone]

Does anyone think that the harp kinda sounds dull and can be improved?

[stable comet]

I was thinking if the abyss might have another version of the ulti mask.. just like the ulti brolly and the normal brolly.... probably the effects is worst off for the normal ulti mask..

[carmine stone]

They might add a spell to help diving underwater

[stable comet]

maybe one snorkel then the ulti is breather XD but yeah spell is good too..

[honest jacinth]

Shouldn't the barrier from the 4th quest (the one involving krill) disappear? Or was that intended?

[carmine stone]

No, I don’t think so. The barrier quest was just obtaining the materials (whilst also freeing the mantas)

[jagged tusk]

Barriers in 3rd and 4th quest now permanently disappear after quest completion
this in #beta-announcements. I thought meant that the barrier would disappear. (so I filed a bug report)

[carmine stone]

Yeah, it's a bug. They're still fixing it though, keep in mind some updates might take a while

[jagged tusk]

thanks, of course, I can wait patiently (and enjoy the bugs).

[clear kindle]

I think no! For a season that is underwater I hoped blue and green cosmetics at least for the capes and a area more color in the objects as the bark for eg

[limber shadow]

One of the cape is in beautiful cobalt blue! and the fish scale has green in it though I agree that it is a bit dull

[clear kindle]

The designs are pretty but need more color ! In my opinion I respect it

[tough shuttle]

Press F to krills in the tower

[carmine stone]

and that giant krill we see

Hm, I'm thinking of doing a sky lore vid.., should I?

[uncut ginkgo]

Jesus Christ the amount of times I spoke about this season in general chat and almost sent it is concerning

[uncut ginkgo]

Yeah send link in private when u do, I’m gonna make one too ranting about the game next week

[compact trellis]

ah you must be like me where you forget to check the server/channel/dm before hitting send 🤝

once i sent a meme to skybot because i thought i was in my groupchat

[uncut ginkgo]

We brain dead

[noble stag]

how's everyone feel about the number of shinybois in the new area? ||please don't immolate me in the replies ||

[compact trellis]

i like 1 but since flight also only had 1 i feel like there should be another somewhere (oop i forgot to turn off ping)

[noble stag]

reply pings are fine for these kinds of direct questions

[compact trellis]

maybe on the tower that doesnt have the hole? i also found a totally empty hallway that could work

[uncut ginkgo]

Current one is nice, there should be one on the top of the tower for all the suffering to get there since there’s no light source to help

[hard dagger]

Having only one of the things that allow us to fly in the area of a season based on flight seemed strange. I'd love to see more than one in this area

[compact trellis]

light sources in the area would be much appreciated yes yes
maybe some decor too, its awfully lonely out there

i found a suspiciously empty 'tunnel' in the forest caves... i wonder if i stumbled upon a future season entrance

[uncut ginkgo]

Super lonely

[rare glade]

more of a personal thing, but does anyone else feel that while the ults are nice for abyss, that they don’t truly feel like ults?

[uncut ginkgo]

Thank you for saying that

[compact trellis]

i love the return of assembly blankie

[uncut ginkgo]

I never thought the day would come to see a hair braid as an ult but the day has come

[compact trellis]

the little braid.. idk about the braid tho

[uncut ginkgo]

From unique masks cough gratitude ,umbrella and such to just cosmetics

[noble stag]

people say that about ultimate items literally every season. then once the season ends those same highly criticized items end up being highly desirable.

[reef cradle]

cough owl hair

[compact trellis]

i would die for owl hair

[subtle prairie]

give it like a year and a half

[uncut ginkgo]

That’s true, in some cases tho not always

[noble stag]

one of the meanings of "ultimate" is final. which they are in the literal sense, they are the final items obtained from a season.

[compact trellis]

i get what you mean though, they feel.. lacking ig compared to some older ones?
i am so mad i never got a pass until Prince (althought the rose is my FAVE)

[uncut ginkgo]

Personal question; do you feel that the abyss’s ults feel memorable?

[ornate lake]

True, and I think putting the rebreather behind a paywall is a little annoying since it feels necessary for some parts of exploration. We don't have iaps that give you more wings, so why this?

[rare glade]

this is what i mean— they’re not as memorable or iconic as previous ults in my opinion. while nice, they seem like the items for a spirit. they don’t stand out to me personally.

[compact trellis]

Ktjn, when you guys were discussing/working out how diving/oxygen should work did you ever consider basing it on cape power?
I love the idea of more wedges=more time to explore

[noble stag]

cape power does give you more time under water...at a cost

[jagged tusk]

I thought the shiny boy in the new area was packaged very carefully, just like in the previous season. I feel that there should be only one shiny boy, but I wonder what the reason is for the disparity between the other season areas.

[subtle prairie]

the respirator and braid do but i've gotta say i could not remember anything about the cape besides that it's red

[uncut ginkgo]

The braid feels like an ult for you?

[noble stag]

how many shinybois makes it into a level is purely at the mercy of the dev who put them in that season.

[rare glade]

i personally believe the braid should’ve been on a spirit, it’s something simple that i think a lot would enjoy. but eh— not my say.

[stable comet]

+1

[subtle prairie]

it'll feel like an ult with some tweaking, i'm taking into account that we're apparently gonna be testing till at least january

also im just used to hair accessories being exclusive to older players between the ench tassels and earmuffs so

[compact trellis]

we need more non-ult accessories yeesss

[uncut ginkgo]

I respect your opinion moo, but shoudnt a braid be part of a spirit instead? We’re talking about end season items something special and rewarding holding the name “ultimate rewards”

[noble stag]

There may have been talks about basing it on wing power in the early concept phase. We throw around heaps of ideas at the start and throw out most of them as we iterate.

[compact trellis]

iirc Hairtousle Teen is like.. one of the ONLY seasonal spirits with an accessory (i have a google sheet for reasons)
(well. spirit with an accessory that's IN the ts pool)

[reef cradle]

i think flight delivered on that one (thank u tgc for my best friend birb )

[uncut ginkgo]

We doooo

[uncut ginkgo]

More more more

[noble stag]

The breath meter means the experience is fairly balanced for newbies as much as more seasoned explorers.

[ornate lake]

until you have the rebreather

[hard dagger]

I love my bird friend! Mine still needs a name, though

[rare glade]

i think it should’ve been on a spirit, it feels odd locking something so small behind a paywall, much less an ult.

[noble stag]

[compact trellis]

i've noticed the air meter empties MUCH slower now after the update; super happy with that! it was nearly impossble to do anything before

[reef cradle]

ktjn what does that mean 😭

[rare glade]

but isn’t the game occasionally unfair to moths due to their lack of wings? moths can’t get up high or to certain areas due to low wedges. why couldn’t we have that with breath?

[subtle prairie]

hair accessories are special, at least to me
the ones that come to mind first are ults, from spirits that haven't returned in more than a year or worth 20usd i do think it needs tweaking though, my first idea was making it really long and putting it on the back of your head

[uncut ginkgo]

I send feedback for this, I rather have literally 1 or 2 ults feeling special and memorable than 3-4 filled with not unique cosmetics

[compact trellis]

i cannot express how hype i am that the Cannoneer's hairstyle ended up being almost EXACTLY the sme as the OC in my profile pic

[noble stag]

we deliberately made the bonus from the ult mask pretty trivial because we didn't want to create a major disparity between AP and f2p players. a few seconds doesn't get you very far on purpose.

[uncut ginkgo]

I understand, I’m judging from what’s in the game now not what could be changed to it because without feedback it won’t have a major change to it

[noble stag]

guess you'll just have to WAFO

[ornate lake]

*checks out my window for snipers*

[uncut ginkgo]

BANG

[compact trellis]

oh that video in screenie channel reminds me

i found... blue wax???
not the bubbles that the eel leaves behind.. actually collectible clearly-wax that was just.. blue

water wax go brr

[hard dagger]

Yeah, that was mentioned in the update. The orbs underwater are blue now, except the ones under the rink in Valley

[reef cradle]

imo not being able to reach every place sky has to offer from the get-go gives moths something new to explore as they 'level up' so to say, but those are usually smaller areas or little nooks

[noble stag]

technically it's "Light" so why can't Light exist beneath the surface?

[hard dagger]

I actually still wasn't getting wax from anything but the candles in Crystal Bay today

[compact trellis]

oh no the blue wax didnt work either. it was jsut there. and blue

[noble stag]

inb4 the ice rink, I keep telling y'all the water there is but a clever lie

[reef cradle]

i got the wax but it didnt refill my breath meter and i lost a wing </3 🐛 🐛 🐛

[compact trellis]

it's just liquid oxygen...
wait that's flamma-🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[subtle prairie]

finally, season of the pits

[noble stag]

that's still happening?

[hard dagger]

Can it cleverly make those orbs below it blue?

[noble stag]

i'll consider putting it on my 2022 to-do list

[hard dagger]

... I'll take it

[noble stag]

is it just the seashells not giving light? or all light in the level?

[hard dagger]

The candles seem to work okay, but the shells still don't give light

[stable comet]

For me, it recharges air meter only ... if not just wax to view... it doesn't recharge wing.. or give anything to the candol meter

[hard dagger]

You still get the wax animation, but nothing gets added to your candle meter

[reef cradle]

in short theyre just there looking pretty

[compact trellis]

both the shells you pick up, and that one shell that emits wax
also those random wax orbs floating around in teh wter

basically the ONLY wax that registers is the candles

[spare onyx]

The golden fish looks like giving wax but they can't be picked
And if they are, the fishes still looks different from

[hard dagger]

Just to clarify, the candle meter doesn't even appear, so it's not just that nothing gets added to it

[regal hill]

the wax/light from the shells in abyss doesn't give wax and air

[compact trellis]

its only treated as wax animation wise, nothing else happens at all

i LOVE that the light creatures restore oxygen now (or at least the jellyfish do)

[spare onyx]

And there are some looks the wax behind the golden fish…is that supposed to be

[woven pike]

Has anyone seen the krill in the latest update build? Been swimming around underneath the lighthouse and haven't seen a single one so far

[noble stag]

wethey're biding their time... planning the next attacc

they might be bugged or moved though

[woven pike]

Yeah, I'm not 100% sure what it might be: I could see them only being released under certain conditions which I might not be fulfilling right now (e.g. 4th quest already completed), or if they're just outright bugged

It'd change the experience of the 4th quest significantly if they're not around, since it'd just become a struggle to find your way and swim downwards instead of also hiding from the sight of predators in an unfamiliar movement environment. I could see arguments for either scenario, but it'd be very different from what I experienced earlier if they're not there

[hard dagger]

Ktjn, may I ask you another ridiculous question?

[woven pike]

Wait...4th quest might be outright buggy, the force field is still active for me even though I've already finished it

[real haven]

Hey Can you suggest that the polish of cosmetics should be at least brighter? Some costumes are not visible at night

[ashen ginkgo]

I like how the yellow banana color jumped down from the boat to the eel

[noble stag]

the 4th quest is getting some major changes, might not be til next build though.

[noble stag]

how ridiculous we talking here

[rustic fiber]

where is the eel now i wanna see them but i cant find them

[hard dagger]

It's about Rupert, Oliver, and Josephine

[noble stag]

I'll allow it

[hard dagger]

Do you consider them to be in the game, and if yes, which krill are they?

[ashen ginkgo]

Not sure, sorry! I've only seen the pics. I think it's in a deeper area though

[stable comet]

if you were talking about the white levi... it changed colour... now and move in a bigger and deeper area route now..

[noble stag]

in game (in my headcanon) yes
which ones are they?

https://tenor.com/view/spoilers-doctor-who-gif-8623491

[rustic fiber]

I found it, i think it likes to swim between the deep and the shallower areas

[stable comet]

i think it is trying to show us the entrances if u follow it... if i am not wrong.. which is a good hint until you ran out of breath trying to follow it wwww

[rustic fiber]

it moves really fast

[stable comet]

Would it be spoilers to know if the 4th remake quest would have krills as well? i hope not

[woven pike]

For any OOB fanatics: has anyone found where the krill are stored in the seasonal area before they start moving? And if so, are you interested in seeing if they're stuck there in this build? Because I have no idea where the jittery critters have gone to at the moment

[rustic fiber]

I found 2 lone seaweed

[hard dagger]

Can't say I'm totally satisfied with that answer, but I appreciate your taking my question regardless, thank you

[rustic fiber]

wait so the krill are hiding at the moment?

[woven pike]

They're not patrolling the lighthouse as far as I can tell, and ktjn just mentioned that the 4th quest is getting an overhaul -- that may be messing with them

[rustic fiber]

mmm that would explain why i have yet to see a krill in this build

[noble stag]

major might be a bit of an exaggeration, but there should be some noticeable differences beyond tweaks and polish.

[woven pike]

Ah yup, I'll reword that

Okay, the deep deep sea krill is apparently still active -- it's the lighthouse ones that I have no idea about

[hard dagger]

Ktjn, are there any plans to make it so players can redo Abyss quests and other seasonal quests activated directly by the quest givers?

[spare onyx]

How the new small boat stand 5 people's life
I miss the old big fishing boat…
They are obviously outsiders, how does this small boat support them drifting across the distant ocean to come here? This is too unreasonable for me, the entire bay has become empty
These are just strange reasons, I really love the old big fishing boat

[jagged tusk]

I checked with just completing the first quest only, and no krill.

[clear kindle]

I wanna know if the colors of the capes I mean the dark capes are intentional because I wanna send the right feedback 😔. I sent feedback about the colors of the capes every single update.

[compact trellis]

even if you're unsure, it's better to report/feedback
they'll be able to tell whether it was something they intended or not

[clear kindle]

Yes I do

[rustic fiber]

if the lighthouse is the really tall tower then the krill might not exist at all there bc ive been looking around for a while and havent seen any, oob and in bounds

[uncut ginkgo]

Or could have made the rebreather mask last longer and put it on a node for igc. 🙄

[manic acorn]

I can't find the entrance. Where is the entrance, please?

[somber gate]

One really important part of being a beta tester is reading the patch notes. Hint: scroll way down.

[carmine stone]

I swear if they add a new zone to the area where there are like thousands of krills and our light is slowly drained unless we go to a light source, i'm going to hate love this season more

[somber gate]

I still get super confused while swimming in the water, thinking I'm heading in one direction and ending up at the entrance.

[tulip mantle]

I think the bubbles should be replaced by something particle like similar to what we have with the star projector the bubbles just look distracting.

[somber gate]

This is really one of the most frustrating seasons since Prophecy. What is the point of having a vaste underwater area that you can't explore without losing light constantly?

It feels like I'm moving in syrup. And why does one area have no oxygen depletion, while another one has immediate?

[tough shuttle]

Bringing friends along could extend the length of exploration.
Solo wanderers like me ? Nope.

[somber gate]

I forgot TGC likes to chastise people who aren't social butterflies.

[tough shuttle]

Yeah
Friends a.k.a Deep call machines /jk become a must if we want to dive deeper, or return to surface without losing light.

Of course we can still go alone by ourselves, but it would suffer a bit

[somber gate]

Good luck to all the new players and solo wanderers.

[hardy fulcrum]

TGC is obsessed with balance.However they make it worse

More ironically, they don't realize what the real problem is.

[tough shuttle]

I still enjoy to dive alone, tbh

[wary elk]

I mean if some of f2p player is more accepting of their state and don't attacking TCG staff this wouldn't have happened

And if player who pay to play is also respectful to f2p player this maybe wouldn't happened too

[stray pebble]

hello, is the beta purchase closed?

[somber gate]

What purchase do you mean?

[tough shuttle]

It's bugged for a certain number of players, some IAPs won't be available for them
*if that's what you meant

[stray pebble]

I meant beta entry actually but

thanks anyway

[tough shuttle]

Ah ok, sorry but it's fulled for now

[somber gate]

You can't buy beta access. But do check #beta-faq for info on how to join next time there is an opening.

[wraith axle]

I have to say, the new season to me, creates a whole new aspect of the Sky world. And as a long time player, it’s been fun navigating with the TGC team in beta. We can swim folks! That’s a first in sky! How exciting. Man those spirits must’ve been salty, swimming around dealing with krill and more? 👀

[stray pebble]

Oh okie

[somber gate]

I'm honestly less impressed this time around, even though I know a lot of players have wanted the swimming mechanic for a long time. To me, this is just a rehash of Journey, especially the Underground and Tower areas.

[smoky viper]

As a solo player, I'm enjoying this change in scenery. And it makes sense to have a "practice" area for swimming and sporadic oxygen areas in key areas where you need to explore quite a bit without having to surface. I think it just takes time to get good at "swimming." I personally love exploring around in this new setup

[tribal jungle]

I always feel they are never enough (except Sanctuary)
I'm satisfied with at least 3-4 per seasonal areas. Going to a separate area for 1-2 wings after eden is not rewarding.

[uncut ginkgo]

Not happy about having just what is currently there, to be honest. Also, the placement of it makes it unlikely that I'll be recollecting it. I think there should be more, preferably on the beach.

[woven pike]

I find it somewhat pointless overall, given the overall amount of time and risk required for just one winged light in the area. I'm fully aware that underwater areas aren't really meant to be speedrun-style levels, but in the map's current state, I don't really see the point of revisiting it just for the collectibles: there's not enough wax or winged light for the amount of hassle and danger there is in the area. I'm happy thinking of it as an area we go to for the seasonal quests and the exploration/atmosphere of it, but the single winged light and its placement doesn't really add to the value of the map for me.

[smoky viper]

Oh yeah. I feel we've gotten too few WLs here and in the previous season, tho I'm not in a hurrry to get to lv 12 wing power. It feels like there are other good places to hide them shinybois and it would be a missed opportunity not to do so, hehe

[vapid zinc]

Seriously?! Do you actually compare an ugly small braid that doesn't even match the hairs of the same season with a gorgeous umbrella with sound effect, a bonfire that is a 4 seater AND also charges you very fast, with a beautiful turban with a shiny star and beautiful, versatile earrings, and so on?! They don't even look like they're in the same league! That braid should have never been an ultimate reward.

[tribal jungle]

Well, it's a strongly worded opinion but agree ⬆️

[honest jacinth]

Kinda agree with that 😔

[regal hill]

I just want to have the area beneath the Valley icerink to be fully sumberged in water, so Sky would at least be consistent with how they introduce underwater areas

[west elm]

Yessss, that's the 2nd prettiest place to swim underwater!
It's a sham that we can't swim there atm :(

[limpid badger]

It’s the last, paid ultimate gift that people work towards throughout the whole season. It shouldn’t basically be “pointless” at that point when it obviously has a working function. Removing the extra seconds would be better in the end.

[regal hill]

either sumberge that place with a dive-able water or remove the water audio effects entirely so they wouldn't conflict and cause people to scratch their heads

[vapid zinc]

Nope. They removed that possibility. Before the latest update deep calling from your friends helped recharge your breath meter. Now it does nothing. You can't explore much with or without friends. If you want to dive deep, you have to lose a few wings.

[stuck apex]

make it 8

[fading fern]

Is/will there be a way to light up greys underwater?

[stuck apex]

huh they removed it?

[tough shuttle]

Adjusted rate of breath drain based on holding hands with friends
Oh wait so this doesn't work either...? (from recent patch note)

[regal hill]

there are air spots in areas related to quests and I agree the there should be more
but if people wanna deep dive I guess they have to commit to that even with the costs, atm we don't really get much incentive in deep diving towards the deepest parts of the Abyss and we already have that random bubble cluster in there anyway

[cunning hearth]

i haven't tried myself but there is a video of deep calling recharging the oxygen meter in #beta-screenshots-videos

[regal hill]

we can't pull out candles underwater so I believe it's impossible to light up a stranger in normal circumstances (except guide feature)

[vapid zinc]

In this build it doesn't work anymore. I went there with my friends right after the update was available and it didn't work anymore.

[cunning hearth]

on that video it is the latest build tho

maybe its another bug or something

[vapid zinc]

Then maybe all my friends and I are bugged 🤷‍♀️

[uncut ginkgo]

Ults took a nosedive after dreams and I agree that the braid shouldn't be considered an ult

[topaz radish]

when is abyss gonna be released in live? like just an estimate date

[glossy shore]

(Betting from mid-late Jan or early Feb, if we’re going hardcore it might be early Jan)

[topaz radish]

ahh i see i see, thank you so much

[peak cedar]

Though considering testing for the fifth quest doesnt begin until Jan, I'm betting closer to mid Feb

[topaz radish]

ohhhhh thats true thats true

[vapid zinc]

Then why is it there in the first place? It'll only be a problematic item anyway. Since we can't know when our friends run out of air, having those extra seconds would only endanger them.

[rich silo]

then can't you just communicate with each other how much breathing time is left

[peak cedar]

Huh, I personally havent tried, but I'm sure deep calling did recharge?

[limpid badger]

Does not anymore, weve tried it earlier.

[limpid badger]

if you’re trying to explore somewhere deeper it is difficult considering you dont have that much air to begin with

[vapid zinc]

And as we've discovered recently, not all skykids are built the same. Not knowing when our friends run out of air underwater is already problematic. Add that mask to that and everyone is going to start playing solo for fear of losing wings.

[limpid badger]

to explain, while Oly still had air, I was already losing wl while holding her hand when we were exploring earlier. We did not have the same amount of air, despite neither of us wearing the ult gift mask.

[umbral shard]

If it’s a functional item then leave the function on. 3 seconds is not enticing enough tbh, it should be longer, unless the map will introduce more O2 recharging points as the quests progress so the extra 3 seconds just enough to allow the player to explore a little longer. It’s like the bonfire we had in Belonging, AP holders worked hard towards obtaining that gift, many people purchased AP because of it. If someone wants the breathing mask then they need the AP. I don’t see any problem with having a properly functioning ultimate gift tied to the AP as ultimates always require AP. If TGC believes it creates disparity than perhaps add the functional item as a non-AP cosmetic to the highest branch in one of the spirits. Just my opinion.

[limpid badger]

Bonfire has no limitations apart from limited seats. The mask has a limit of 4-5 seconds of extra air. Them saying they purposely made it basically useless (ktjn saying it wont let you explore much more anyways while using it) does not compare to the bonfire at all. Its disappointing compared to other ults.

[peak cedar]

Very strongly worded
But considering we do have two other ults and enchantment was the first to introduce more than one ult I'm unsure if this is a fair comparison. If it were the only ult I would see that, yes, but considering it's one of three, and one ult even has a function, I dont think it matters that much
Also in my opinion, the braid and the 3 platts hairstyle go really well
Ofc, my opinion, but yes.

[west elm]

It's 10 seconds now

[peak cedar]

I agree, but the thing is if it did give a larger function, as Ktjn said, there would be an unfair advantage for f2p players
Edit: eep sorry I missed the last part of the message

[peak cedar]

I thought it was still only 5?

[limpid badger]

So if youll wear the mask but your friend wont, how is that gonna work? They gonna drown? the extra air should just be removed

[west elm]

It would be useless then

[topaz radish]

if im being honest i didnt realize the breathing time extended when wearing the mask

[umbral shard]

I used bonfire as example for a functional item which gives advantage to players who obtained it via AP (you can charge wherever you want - now we have the torch so bonfire is no that powerful anymore, but at that time it was the best ultimate ever). The breathing mask with 3 seconds is useless, I agree. To make it useful it needs to have longer time, at least 30 seconds imo, for those keen to explore the depths. If the belief is that it creates disparity, then maybe increase it to 5 seconds (so it’s still useful somehow) and don’t tie it to AP.

[rich silo]

we could argue that all cosmetics are useless yet people still gun for them

[limpid badger]

it basically already is, even by what ktjn said

[vapid zinc]

They're already at a disadvantage if that mask gives 10 seconds extra! Imagine your friend leading the underwater expedition is wearing that mask and you don't. You're going to start losing wings left and right while your friend has plenty of time to spare.

[west elm]

It makes sense for it not to affect your friend, because they are not wearing it

[limpid badger]

so much for them not trying to make much of a difference for p2w and f2p then, right

[peak cedar]

I agree, but it only gives 5 seconds which is nothing. If exploring with a friend, I personally would take into consideration that they dont have that extra length

[tough shuttle]

It's 10 from today's update

[peak cedar]

It is
I didnt notice pls

[west elm]

I think it should still give more seconds underwater, but you should be able to "recharge" your friend when honking if you still have air, that would be a good solution

[vapid zinc]

If we want to be fair... that mask should be free. Just like Assembly torch was. Putting f2p players at a disadvantage that will make this game stressful for them is not such a great idea.

[peak cedar]

Or create/add a similar function to one of the other seasonal masks that is f2p

[rich silo]

isn't the rebreather ult a spell in the beta shop right now

[limpid badger]

constantly honking under water is problematic in two ways, the sounds and mainly the flashing light

[tough shuttle]

But they also sorta decreased the speed of going up from underwater (floating mode), which makes returning to surface is still a problem there

[west elm]

I mean, like, you get extra seconds with the mask, right? So you could use that extra air you have to help your friend when honking, but when your oxygen ends, you can't recharge your friend

[tribal jungle]

+1. And the inability to move because 2 friends are constantly honking to get breath

[west elm]

Honking it's one of the most important mechanics from sky, you are saying they should remove it?

[peak cedar]

Another point I'd like to raise is I never really found myself at a point where I was short a breath even without the mask
I speak for myself, but I had enough bubble pits to explore, but also if I found myself running out, I'd just re surface and dive again

[limpid badger]

I am saying constant honking to replenish air is not a good solution

[west elm]

There aren't much difference from Honking underwater and honking above the water

[glossy shore]

No, they’re saying that it shouldn’t be the only way to recharge our meter when exploring the depths. Constantly deep calling blinds my eyes & I get disoriented quite often

[tough shuttle]

Actually I think it should be easier even without a mask if those shells are working properly! They are designed to recover your oxygen, but unfortunately none of them working now

[west elm]

It would only need the friend that has the ult mask to honk, because they would have more oxygen

[cunning hearth]

personally i just think the oxygen meters needs to be more longer, and there should be more strategically placed oxygen

[tough shuttle]

Although there's a problem that I could barely recall where are those shells in mid-deep levels, except that one(1) recharge spot outside jellyfish room

[west elm]

That would be a smarter solution

[vapid zinc]

Try going into one of the buildings. By the time you reach a room you'll be out of air. By the time you find an exit out of it, you'll lose a wing. By the time you resurface, another wing will bite the dust.

[peak cedar]

They would need someone to honk for them to keep them charged too, though

[cunning hearth]

i relate diving with hidden forest but more deadlier

[peak cedar]

I have
I have
Explored everywhere for hours on end for a few day-
So I have tried that
So-
And the only time I lost a wing was when I wanted to see what happened when I let my star run out

[limpid badger]

oxygen should not be a thing at all imo, it complicates things way too much not in good ways. the ult mask is useless on purpose too. diving away from the bubbles means you wont have enough time to go back.

[rich silo]

that just removes the danger of the area completely

[somber gate]

Why does there need to be danger?

[tribal jungle]

How far can you go with the other with 12 seconds advantage under water while really exploring not knowing discord or directions as an average player? (Because most of them are not here to go conscusly) Not much

[west elm]

I didn't say "keep charged" i mean, the person with the ult mask could just honk until they have air to make their friend be able to be underwater as long as the person with the ult mask can

[rich silo]

it's a seasonal area within golden wasteland, which is FULL of danger

[limpid badger]

you can make it dangerous in other ways, not by limiting the ability to explore freely

[peak cedar]

Oooh, I see

[peak cedar]

I do get that

[rich silo]

then what's your suggestion for making it dangerous in other ways other than removing the drowning aspect

[tough shuttle]

I'd doubt if the lower level is open for exploring until all models for 5/6th quests are done. Upper level has enough bubbles and shells for now (imo), but not the deep side where has a krill right now.

[somber gate]

This is my experience also. It just seems to me that players are experiencing the area differently in an inconsistent way, which is confusing.

[uncut ginkgo]

Why not just make a spell that let's you breathe underwater and have it last as long as trail spells

[limpid badger]

krills, crabs, smaller areas without air the possibilities are endless

[rich silo]

the rebreather mask is in the shop I thought?

[rich silo]

if you add more krills then that just becomes wasteland 2.0 which isnt'that interesting

[limpid badger]

it’s literally in wasteland? and there can never be enough krills.

if theres a realm where its ok to add krills, its wasteland

[west elm]

I think it would work like this:

• you will only be able to honk to restore your friend's oxygen if you still have oxygen

• it would only equal the amount of oxygen both have so both can be underwater for the same duration

[tough shuttle]

Indeed.

[somber gate]

I don’t think the area is interesting to begin with. I don’t understand what story TGC is trying to tell us.

[umbral shard]

I think a breathing mask as non-AP item on the highest branch of one of the spirits would be a good idea for folks who have fear of deep water but still want to participate in the season. I am one of those. I did not do the 4th quest for ages, and it took a lot if courage to conquer it. The deep call cheat helped a lot.

[topaz radish]

to be honest i was scared when i saw the krills at first and flew at first sight but krills are literally shrimp

[glossy shore]

It is, only on weekends it seems, but it only lasts 30 minutes for all friends holding onto the caster, seemingly only adding 5-10 seconds extra to the meter. Quinn is suggesting a longer & much more effective spell than the current one

[uncut ginkgo]

[west elm]

it's 10 seconds now

[limpid badger]

The thing is, we should need a spell to explore a seasonal area without having to worry about losing air

[cunning hearth]

more krills would be the same as the oxygen meter with the area being tightly packed.... just look at the existing krills

[glossy shore]

5 seconds last I tried, was it changed recently? Not any much effective either way

[limpid badger]

10secs goes by very fast

[vapid zinc]

I'm very sorry to burst your bubble. The new build seems to have removed the deep call - deep dive trick. Or at least it's very buggy now. Your skykid seems to just float instead of dive.

[unborn night]

I can't really figure out a safe way to get from the 3rd floor to the 4th final floor of the krill tower. I keep running into the krill ^^;;

[umbral shard]

More need for the mask then

[unborn night]

Noooooo

[west elm]

I had a idea like this and i've already sent feedback on that

We should have a underwater breathing potion, that lets us explore freely for a limited amount of time, and only then our air begins to be used

[tough shuttle]

Something I was thinking is you should have an oxygen buff (longer breathe, like 1-2 mins) after finishing all quests as a bonus

[glossy shore]

The thrill & lack of care about WL in me wants to keep it that way, just add more (far apart) recharge spots in the depths & you’re set

[limpid badger]

a mask that purposely doesnt let you explore much further than what you can without it

[west elm]

I had a idea like this and i've already sent feedback on that

We should have a underwater breathing potion, that lets us explore freely for a limited amount of time, and only then our air begins to be used

And yes, it apllies to our friends too

[peak cedar]

Just checked, deff 10
Feels like nothing still

[umbral shard]

Please see my earlier suggestion. The time limit needs to be increased. Or forget about the mask altogether and let’s just stick to spells/potions. And request more recharge spots.

[uncut ginkgo]

Seems like the best option at this point, also throw out the braid

[rich silo]

I'm not a beta player, but I'm also at a point where losing WL isn't that big of a deal (also don't we lose all of them every time we go to Eden anyway lol) so I really don't see that big a problem with losing WL to drowning
risk vs reward

[west elm]

Kind of... You can go all the way down with the ult mask because you can reach some bubbles you wouldn't be able to without it

[limpid badger]

the bubbles are mostly in the least interesting parts of the map, around the boat. theres not much of them anywhere else

[west elm]

What do you guys think? Should we have a spell* like that?

It could be like, 1 minute or 5 of spell duration

[rich silo]

personally I disagree because even the light recharge spells don't function that way
I say use the instant recharge spell but have it also work double for instantly refilling oxygen bar

[west elm]

Only because light recharge spells don't work like that doesn't means the underwater breathing one can't

[peak cedar]

I just thought of this
But
We havent completed the last quest yet, and for all we know it does create more breathable spots and it does expand our breath
Ofc this is only a guess, but I feel if we wait and see what this final quest does (and many final quests in the past dramatically change the area/complete the area).
Also:
When we all first joined sky, didnt we all wish we could fly forever? No limit to our flaps? Wishing we never had to recharge? To me, the season, learning to swim, was a beautifully nostalgic thing, it reminded me of my first shaky, short flight, and how I wished I could reach the clouds in home space.
For all we know, the devs have a plan to expand this breath metre like we expanded out limits of flight.
Again, just a theory, but one to consider

[tough shuttle]

Actually if you're only trying to explore those buildings for event quests, it's very doable for now! I don't have problem with those places.
But for going further outside the tower or deeper, it can be an issue, because there's literally only one spot to recover your oxygen.

[livid rune]

I like some of it….but I agree. I think it’s still early in the season and many changes will come.

[peak cedar]

Sky is about exploration, so it would be odd if tgc didnt give us some way to explore this new area as we liked

[rich silo]

yeah but it's not like something that makes you impervious to the game features for a long period of time
idk I just see this as like, I have friends who avoid GW purely for the krills so what makes this seasonal area any different if there's drowning involved XD

[vapid zinc]

If we just wait around for whatever the devs seem appropriate we might as well not have the beta version. Beta is here for various reasons, one of them being having our voices heard.

[tough shuttle]

We can say it's still unfinished since those areas are for later quests, so nobody knows if there'll be more regen spot or not

[west elm]

But i think a "recharge" spell for that wouldn't be much of a help, only if breathing time gets increased

[peak cedar]

I disagree, when I first started the season I couldnt get over how beautiful and new and exciting it was under water
And the story is given to us at the start: they were treasure hunters, and we set out to discover what they did
I think the fifth quest will show us what they found, after all, it is a huge gap between the fourth and fifth quest, so surely it's something big

[tough shuttle]

And they added some huge objects in latest build
Those could be buildings for fifth and sixth quests

[uncut ginkgo]

Why do I feel like this area is just going to be like Starlight desert after the majority of live finishes the quests

[vapid zinc]

Yep. It's wonderful at the beginning, a pain after that.

[peak cedar]

I wasnt saying to wait around? I was saying we should consider there may be changes, not "let's do nothing in the mean time"
I'm sorry if I was unclear, but I meant we should consider they may be implementing new things, so let's not be too harsh on judgment until we are sure our limited exploration is final

[livid rune]

I think story wise, imho, quality has been decreasing since Prophecy. The last interesting set of quests and stories was Season of Dreams. After that everything has been very weak and simple…just my opinion.

[rich silo]

TLP was amazing on its own tho lol

[livid rune]

TLP wasn’t their story, it’s an adaptation

[rich silo]

but it's still a story

[tough shuttle]

There's nothing much in cutscenes, but by those murals in this season, this seems to be the most harsh one I've experienced tho

[livid rune]

I don’t count it as part of Sky, it’s a collab adapted to fit into the game…

[vapid zinc]

I was getting wl in Village of Dreams today and I marveled at the whole area. It is still breathtaking even almost year later. Do I feel the same about Starlight Desert, Assembly Tree House or the Flight area? No.

[peak cedar]

I agree
However it's very hard to keep up creating 4 unique, interesting story's that have to be dragged out over 2 and a half months each year. I think the story is actually quite captivating, while it's not the most interesting story in sky, it is still, by definition, interesting. At least to me.
While it's hard to not compare one season to the next, I think we should try and appreciate the beauty of each season. Imagine if tgc gave up with seasons, sky would eventually lose its charm.

[rich silo]

also the sky community has hundreds of thousands of players so it's a little something for everyone to experience

[cunning hearth]

wind paths is beautiful... its almost like a painting

[rich silo]

my stance is that variety is good so encouraging it is p fun

[topaz radish]

ive been lurking for a while but at the end of the day ya cant please everyone

[cunning hearth]

yeah... we all got tastes

[rich silo]

and different playstyles, as well as ability to play the game
the difference I've seen in the numerous amount of players I've tried to burn the graveyard plant with

[tough shuttle]

A few more words here:
Didn't expect there's an actual mural portrayed mantas being captured for research, or even energy extraction (not 100% sure with this)

References pics by NoMad:
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[livid rune]

I agree! The new seasons are the only things keeping me from playing, as good or bad as that may appear. But I still feel like it’s becoming a drag to log in to collect candles when the seasons are also starting to feel repetitive. What if they included “mini games” to each new area…like underwater hoops to not run out of breath…

[peak cedar]

I would rather have a simple, yet fun, season every few months, rather than a few highly engaging, novel-esc story once in a blue moon. Ideas are hard to come by, especially in depth story's. As a film student I know how hard it is. I can spend three months trying to create a story, even if it's only 1 minute long, and can struggle to find a good one. The fact that we get such amazing stories, even if not quite in depth, is a feat in itself

[rich silo]

and without words

[livid rune]

It just feels like collecting candles for candles’ sake. On live I’m nearly at 1500 and I feel like if I didn’t play for a year I could still catch up and have candles left.

[rich silo]

I'm a background artist so a lot of my personal storytelling is truly with zero words whatsoever, I've also experience making comics
making a story that's universally understood is a challenge in itself

[peak cedar]

Aaahhh I know the feeling
But when I get sick of candle running, I slow down, I go back to seasonal area, I explore. Cause during the season, I dont. That is what I love about seasonal areas. I may ignore them for months at a time, but in the moments where I'm sick of the repetition, they are a refreshing take

[umbral shard]

I remember an underwater realm was a recurring request in the wish-list channel so I think it’s great that TGC makes that happen. The underwater mechanics are still half-cooked so hopefully improvements will be made. To me it seems a lot of the new seasons are fan service really, which is nice. Story-wise, I don’t think there is much more to tell, without giving away the mystery. I for one would be very interested to explore the kingdom before the fall (like we saw in the Nintendo trailer during the summer), a time-travelling season for example. I don’t want to divert the conversation just wanted to react to sentiments related to recent seasons, how I think they tie to fan requests in the wish-list channel.

[peak cedar]

And considering Ktjn even said not to long ago, the mechanics would be impossible as sky was, it's amazing we even got such a sought-after season

[rich silo]

yeah personally my first reaction to seeing tgc's take on an underwater season was genuine excitement because it's so unique and not just like
the little mermaid uwu vibes ya know

[tough shuttle]

not a lore fan but they really hit me this time

[rich silo]

though recently I saw a wish for an aerial season in wishlist and I was like
are we not in the middle of one in live right now

[deep dawn]

Lol, does anyone have ideas for tgc for next season (not season of abyss tho)

[peak cedar]

Asking like, personal ideas
Or like
If we know?

[deep dawn]

Personal ideas, or you could do predictions

[topaz radish]

one based on plants maybe? like maybe just all trees and flowers everywhere and the quests require you to get up to the tree without flying? idk that was on the top of my head

[glossy shore]

My taste is refined & my opinion is absolute. Now to get jetpacks into Sky…

[peak cedar]

Ooooo
Well I'd like to see an eden season
Based on the King/lore/history of sky

[vapid zinc]

An Alice in Wonderland season

[deep dawn]

Ah yeah thats a cool one

[topaz radish]

ooo yesyes i saw someone make a concept like that on instsgram

[rich silo]

I think this is straying away from the beta channel topic so probs go back to abyss

[split oyster]

ngl, i thought the new season will be great considering how beautiful the area when it was first released, now, it's literally assembly 2.0 smh

[peak cedar]

:0
Same omg it look so cool

[deep dawn]

Never thought abt it that's lovely and creative

[livid rune]

Deep down what I guess I’m wishing is for a little bit more Sky lore added to each season. I think it’s great that they add new elements and tell new stories but I would like to feel as if the seasons are more connected to each realm. This season could be an opportunity to answer some long lasting questions such as; where do krills come from? Were they always “dark dragons”? Did they get corrupted? Were they awakened by the removal and exploitation of light creatures by the previous civilizations? Can krill’s “dark power “ be harnessed such as “light” ? Etc etc….so much they could add to the lore with the seasonal quests..

[topaz radish]

the cosmetics they made too !! so cool

[deep dawn]

Yeah, thay would seem similar to season of little prince! That would also be pretty nice i can imagine it

[peak cedar]

Ik like👌👌👌

[topaz radish]

so edgy but elegant

[peak cedar]

screams
Same please
I have so many head canons

[deep dawn]

Thats deep but awesome to think about and wonder

[topaz radish]

a genshin x sky collab although thatd probably stay a dream

[deep dawn]

And how did they lose their light, and stuff

[peak cedar]

Deffinatly stay a dream

[topaz radish]

my love for both games are just too much

[peak cedar]

Is it?
I never thought that-

[tough shuttle]

I felt that until I realised that tower was a laboratory from murals.
But also a question why the main quest didn't give focus on those but collecting diamonds only.

[umbral shard]

Good reminder, I agree, let’s move this topic to the more general beta channel

[peak cedar]

Never played, but has a friend who does and I get a lot of edits + screen shots and

[topaz radish]

thats what im confused of aswell, on the 4th quest we freed the mantas but the cutscene showed us giving diamonds,, like where did they get that-

[deep dawn]

LMAO

[topaz radish]

i suggest it ngl but everyone has their opinone

[tough shuttle]

Think about how long it took for the area get submerged, and how long those manta finally got rescued by us pirates

[peak cedar]

My only guess is its gonna somehow tie in in the final cutscene? Atm if any, its giving me sanc vibes

[cunning hearth]

the third quest we free the mantas by stealing the diamonds powering the barriers

[peak cedar]

I want too but dont have the space on my laptop or phone

[glossy shore]

We need a yarr call. “Yar har”

[umbral shard]

I think we disable those buttons and remove the diamond that’s been powering them?

[deep dawn]

I haven't done the third one yet, I'm still on the second one

[sage sail]

"yohoo....big summer blowout" vibes

[topaz radish]

ohhh maybe maybe

[topaz radish]

genshin is huge 💀, like 14gb minimal

[deep dawn]

skdkslsksk whA

[topaz radish]

ohhh that makes a lot of sense actually

[rich silo]

genshin also doesn't fit the all ages vibe that sky has, so that makes it even more unlikely imo

[deep dawn]

I downloaded it on my phone and took like 30+ mins to like load so i was impatient and i just gave up

[topaz radish]

yeah which makes me

[peak cedar]

I think it's more of a laptop game

[tough shuttle]

also murals sorta tell how those diamonds were produced by spirits

[topaz radish]

SO TRUE mobile is hell

[peak cedar]

Theres theorys they're made by blending mantas

[topaz radish]

IM SORRY WHAT I would cry

[tough shuttle]

No wonder why the big boi Leviathan would be mad and destroyed the area

[peak cedar]

JAKSHF
LOOKING AT THE MURALS + OLD CONCEPT ART
BUT SAME

[glossy shore]

Haven’t you seen the light extractor concept art?

[topaz radish]

I HAVE BUT Its so sad to think abt

[umbral shard]

By removing the diamond we are disabling the security system that keeps something locked away, on purpose. I feel like we are about to “release the Kraken” 😂

[tough shuttle]

W-wait may I know where's the old concept art? Are they on official website :pEyes:

[sage sail]

check the pins in lore chat for a treasure trove

[peak cedar]

Ik the concept artist has an instagram
But tgc has also been sharing more insights into concept too

[peak cedar]

HEHEHEHE

[vapid zinc]

I can't wait for that! 😂

[tough shuttle]

Those diamonds are literally everywhere in sky's world, now I feel bad to use them

[cosmic vine]

I don't know which is worse:

• A theory that the crew probably don't know what resources' real purpose in the abyss is
• Or a theory that they might knew it all along

[peak cedar]

GASP PLEASE CAN WE RELEASE THE KRAKEN KING KRILL???

[peak cedar]

They knew all along

[umbral shard]

Each skykid has one implanted so I don’t know what to say

[vapid zinc]

Speaking of security system... I wonder why there are krills on every floor? Are they part of that system? 🤔

[livid rune]

That would explain malicious laughter

[cosmic vine]

We are helping bad guys omg

[peak cedar]

What if we are the bad guys
Oh no
Oh no I just
Lightbulb moment

[tough shuttle]

also a question that why now all krills gone (in tower only)

[topaz radish]

my new fsvorite emote

[peak cedar]

I'm gonna go contemplate my skykids existance now in an existential crisis, see you in 2-4 business days

[umbral shard]

Or they are there simply because they are attracted to light, or to the presence of that big monster? 🤔

[peak cedar]

plus its sneep time, gnight peeps

[spiral needle]

A quick advice from wise ol' Skybot: remember to take a break every once a while and take care of yourselves please, fellow Sky kids

[cosmic vine]

I mean we have to be either way
Crew members are probably picking crystals up from the ocean floor
And we are like "yo I just released the ancient horror for that rock "

btw
has the thought "the crew are on animal rescue mission" been discussed already?

[topaz radish]

o wait ive never heard of that theory

[cosmic vine]

they literally can be competing in how many mantas they saved each day

[topaz radish]

AHAHAHAHAH ANIMAL RESCUE BECOMES COMPETITIVE

"i saved 4 mantas today"

"WELL, I saved 7"

[cosmic vine]

captain's scheme to make the mission more fun for younger spirits

[narrow plover]

I found a patch of bubble columns pretty far down deep under the cage area
Hm. Is there a reason for it to be there?

It still goes infinetly downwards