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"Are the prince and king the same person?" Answer: "We don't know yet."
Answer: "Maybe"
They only let one correct answer. Im tryin to stick with things that are provable or widely thought
"what is (insert popular name of a lore theory)?"
oh
you could describe a popular lore theory and ask what it's called
Some theories got a lot of names though. Thats cool idea though.
Im also asking, see if yall get it:
you could describe a sky creature and ask what it's official name is
Which of the these is NOT a known concept creature?
A. Deer
B. Dolphin
C. Seahorse
D. Octopus
I know there was a dark creature that looked like an octopus
Interesting, but I think it could be the opposite. Maybe krills come from somewhere else (maybe they have a tie with the shadows in Fire Trial
) but I presume they could have been feeding on clouds (which are an infinite source of light/energy for us).
With the arrive of the Sky Kingdom and the growing city lights they got attracted by those tasty artificial lights (basically like wildlife Anthropization is drawing more animals towards dumpsters to search food irl) thus changing the original Krills foodchain and feeding on all energy and creatures they found in GW (because now they would never return on feeding on tasteless clouds it would be like eating broccoli
)
It could also be the reason why the 3 krills felt the energy flowing into the GW temple door and decided to scout into that direction for food
i know there was a seahorse
Is Vault a projection?
Ans. Concept art? Yes, Today’s game? Maybe
i know that the mantas are based on the dolphins in journey
there was a seahorse?
so does that count as being a dolphin in concepts?
might have to change that one
so the answer was dolphin
The answer was seahorse because I never saw the seahorse where is the seahorse?
theres a seahorse
like the fish u trade with
i think
its not the fish, but it was something similar
i think...
ooh
"In the concept art, was there a dark creature you could trade with?"
"Yes. The fish"
Is it the glowy looking one with the spikes through it? Wait no thats a canth.
it is possible i just remembered wrong and there isn't a seahorse
Not this right?
Tuna king
not that, i am starting to think I'm wrong
now that i think about it, i dont remember what the seahorse even looked like
I could also use more suggestions for things Vault was NOT portrayed as in concept art
but i did find the picture of the fish as a dark creature and then being traded with
A Mandela creature.
ah yes, the whale, impale
yah, i cant find the seahorse
In concept art Forest Elder is portrayed as this animal
-kitsune fox
-rabbit
-lynx
-deer
Yep.
True. Should maybe take off kitsune since she did have a lot of tails
Also I think creepy forest had a rabbit mask.
also, where did yall find the whole thing about forest trying to kidnap u?
Yep. I....im thinking of adding it to the quiz >:)
i cant find that tho
Dunno how to word it. Maybe like. Which of these was an idea for an elder
where did yall find it?
Its in promotional material at the bottom
Hold on I got cha
It was on the official twitter while they posted concept stuff
SEDUCES YOU- Don't think it could've been a game that kids can play if they kept that
why did they want to trap you?
perhaps for fun
Theres no reason givin but im guessing during the stages where they had elders missing body parts.....she was missing a heart.
oh
i wonder what the other elders' lose?
isle lose face?
Valley currently lost arms. I think I saw a lot with lost shoulders, but no telling who they eventually became
Hole in the center
Sometimes I think creb, I wanna read this as book, but who’ll make it happen 
I think they mentioned in an update video an art book on the way
ao3 fanfic writers
Oh yeah, the two valley elders are only holding out one arm each
I REALLY WANT AN ART BOOK
bro legit if they actually made an art book i will buy it
straight buying it
no delays
But I mean like, a story with these concepts, not a concept art book 
oh
Oh
I just recycle them into headcanons

And I can’t make it myself because I suck at writing 
wdym you got some cool ideas there 
theres a difference between having good ideas and good writing
HOWEVER
many writers start writing badly
Idk how to word it and idk how to tell the story so it’s interesting 
and improve their writing over time
Yeah I wanna practice more 
i really want this server to have writing room 
Which of these where not ideas for elders, I will add. So many
Tom is on insta
https://instagram.com/tomzhaodesign?utm_medium=copy_link
If yall want to follow
its like someone may have dialogue ideas but have the character just say it like, "OH NO" Bob said
vs someone using other words besides said, "OH NO" Bob screamed
i had bob letting gas out of his rump before
turns out that is not allowed
Not sure anyone wants to take on writing creepy seductive forest
Who's bob-
hmm, so that's what they're called
this image is also of interest
as you can see, my braincells have charged up to 101%
megabirb, is that you
wait is this the king or early king concepts because it has two eyes
megabird looks suspiciously like a manta
YOU TELL THEM! 
What the heck is the king or the megabird
Cut elder of eden who appears in statues around the game, and as a mural in Vault elders cutscene. Might be the victor of the trials, and the kid in stargazer spirits memory. Has the entire lore revolve around him, and might have reincarnated into skykids. And megabird is the god basically. Appears in the credits as like a star cluster or someting.
Ah
Thanks
Huh, fountains...never knew
prince might also be the golden child we hug after death
Exactly where I'm standing, was a Winged Light. The only area with flowers in the isle, maybe, the Light lets the life exist, if there's no light, there's no life.
In Daylight Prairie, there's many light, there's many grass and creatures, but in Golden Wasteland, there's no light, no life.
Something I've noticed, not much 
maybe cos it is 
highly likely
is there like a doc for just king/prince lore? 
If there is none then we shall make one
I’m making one rn
Whats the theories your puting in the doc
Idk I’ll just send it to some people more experienced and ask them to fill it up
What prophecy theory?
That prince is the Victor of the trials?
Ohhhh that one
Imagine we have megakrill 
We sort of do
Where is it
time to ruin someone's hope
in eden
the krills in eden extinguish ur flame by getting close enough to you
the krill in wasteland dont
they still will attack you
Those aren’t mega krills I think they are more powerful in eden
think of em as a combination of krill and the shadows in fire trial
they are a seperate kind, more powerful than normal krill
one could say that they are a mega form of the krill
now, you have a new reason to be angry
Well I heard someone said it’s a bug not really sure tho but I still think they are more powerful in eden
i kind of like that as a feature
its small enough to be hard to notice, but a cool discovery once you do
Ye
did the intro update yet?
no
Ah. Eden does not show up every time I go to isle now so its hard to tell
Fun fact! These three messages were how I learned that the update was available!
the candles arent in isle yet
Yeah. Murals look the same too.
They even mentioned it in patch notes
so close so far
Lmao some of us discussed the new mural here thinking it’s already in live but atleast I already know it’s not in live yet
In the 1st area?
so when we die we become the dead statue like other children in eden too :0
Is that part of the new update?
I haven’t gone to eden for a while
yepp i just went there after update and notice the change in cutscene
y'know i keep thinking the dark water in eden and wasteland are blood of skykids and spirits
cuz there's dark liquid thingy spills off the kid as they die
why would it harm you then?
mmm cuz its dark?
maybe something like a curse 0w0
and this scholar statue holding a diamond in eden
Thats always happened though? I guess our statue did disapear leaving behind the dark particles, but we did become a statue
i thought that as well, but it's only in recent update they show the process of us turning into statue clearly
?
I clearly remember havibg turned into a statue before this update
rly?? 0.o
i remember seeing it only turns into blue light after death
Around 22:25
We become a statue
Different stance than the other ones
But otherwise the same
@nocturne zealot
we dont become a statue. i just went through eden. we just break into pieces. we always have
I think they're talking about how we look like the statues before breaking
@lethal stump
Eden:
You saved everyone... who will save you?
Finally I don’t need more proof the statues are just other skykids
What saves us is the winged light inside ourselves
sounds good.
But who actually knows how long you stood there 
Maybe the only reason you reached the hug was cause someone else came for more ascended candles you
Maybe the kid we hug is our last light reaching to us
the light that wasn't given to anyone else
I thought it might have been body and soul reuniting but I found this very similar scene in concept art, hold on
Where it is Prince
If all the theories line up, it would be a hug between past and present life
It would be a different past life that happened before the game started in the theory
Since he just looks so much like a sky kid and also is mysteriously missing
Save yourself
Also heyyy brick 
"For all the light you give someone, someone else gets cursed with equal darkness. That's how it works for skykids and that's how it is for me... I was stupid. So stupid!"
Hm this can actaully work so like we get cursed from darkness and then break to pieces and we’re dead but our light self saved us and and forgive us for leaving it alone I think and then we hug it and ye we get reborn
It wasn't supposed to be taken too seriously, it's a parody of a PMMM quote.
But yea
ig
Well
But it's still an interesting idea.
i see you have a fine taste as well
Hm I think instead of being cursed to darkness our skids get trapped by darkness and get killed and ye that also I basically forgot about the kid were gonna hug it’s good for lore for our skids
Will wait for 5 hours until I get a reply
the kid you hug is either your soul reaching out,
your unsacrificed wl reaching out,
or part of an ascended being whose job is to save everyone
For me the kid you hug is our light self and it saved us I also think it’s the reason we can reborn cuz we also turn to stone that means we don’t reborn for the statues maybe they’re light self didn’t save them or something they are maybe weak and we are strong cuz WE HAVE 11 wings ,they prolly didn’t collect a lot of winged light so they’re not strong lmaoaaaoa
skids 1.0 noobs arent as stronk as us 
we built different
I think the kid is the prince
Who is this prince everyone keeps talking about?
Hm
I think chesca has shared a doc
Anyway I can explain
The prince (Alef) is the sky kid that falls from the sky or the first sky kid. Megabird sent him as a falling star at isle of dawn (we can see it at a spiritual memory). The prince quickly completes the trials and after he mines and start using dark stone he is crowned king and changes his name to Resh
@proud fable who dat? 
Skybot we both know...
That is it 😁
Thanks for the info, where does this all come from?
Or where can I find it? 🙂
Canon lore doc
Tgc has intentionally left the lore of sky vague for us to discover it and make our own theories. This is what is actually more talked about in lore chat. Ppl use Tomzhao's concepts and in game info like spirit memories to theorise
Can u send a link
I think it has been removed from the pins 😭
Hello new Lore Moff!
Read this short document to get started! Once you’ve read this, check out pins for more information. 
https://docs.google.com/document/d/18B1-SKG3toG0oH0VhOWC5o-cG9u0STAN92QvmbhTDto/edit
credits to Bricky
This is the Prince
Thank you. The in game cutscenes are cryptic at best
Np
Wonder how close the season will be to the book
And when did this become cannon
I want his mask 
Anti krill laser go

Since the beginning ig
this is the vault summit crumbling down isnt it?
so my theory is that the vault is actually the starting part of eden 
New eden pics
Vault ends in the beginning of eden tho, you can see the top of it when you look behind after entering eden 

No you didn't-
Pixpy i-
nvm, it's blurry
What was it
I thought there would be something in the code related to next season but the quality is blurry

My theory, as always, is that Vault is also the entrance to Eden as the starting part of Eden itself is at the top of Vault if you play straight through.
It's also a portal to alternate worlds, which is why we can access Office, and potentially the Little Prince's world in the next season. However due to the amount of energy required to retain the physical form of Vault, Eden is in shambles, hence why we gotta give light to the Fallen. But who exactly is the fallen? is it just the sky kids who failed? or perhaps when it meant 'Give the light to the fallen' it meant the King .
Far fetched but that's what this entire channel is aboutl
What does Puxuse mean?
Randomly generated name 😌
sounds... frenchy~
From in game name generator 
Anyway so they confirmed it that we are the fallen statues, the kids that came before us 
When you come to this place, you're giving your light to save those who fell before you. However, no matter how well you do this, you'll always sacrifice yourself in the end. If you can't comprehend this, you should've never come here in the first place. This is our fate, the event that fulfills our existence.
-A jaded veteran to a scared moth
Lmao accurate
About the Fallen Statues
There's something interesting about your statued skid when you die in Eden
Try checking in Eden right after an Eden Run
Before reset, you'll see something new 
Like, if you saved all statues and stuff, return to Eden before statues are reset, there's a new chnage there
I wanna mention something about us becoming a statue now, but I cant mention it since not many people know about this new change rn
But I can say is that I don't think we are the Fallen
There's a very subtle detail when we turn into a statue that indicates that we aren't like the Fallen
(Prince=Our Skid still lives
)
Oh wait, it seems people already noticed
Well i made a theory about it this one just gonna send it so you know ye #lore-discussion-spoilers message
What's that?
Has a different um statue pose
Oh yeah, when you return to Eden before reset and see the statued kids you already saved, they now remain there, but with a golden color
Wow..I don't know about this.. it's interesting
The statued kids you haven't saved yet and needs a WL are colored blue
I only go there on Sundays
Guess what?
Yes that's i know
When we turn into a statued kid, we dont glow with a blue color
Why?
We also glow with a gold color
We glow with bule color in the old one
Just like the statued kids that have alteady been saved or doesn't need saving anymore
That indicates someone has already saved us right?but who?
Wait this supports my theory on our light self saving us
I have Just started to play like 2 weeks
I mentioned this theory in Beta chat
Well you prolly gone to eden and noticed it right
New update is just today
It means that
- We are still different from the Fallen
- We trigger ascension after death on our own
That means everyone in sky doesn't really need help..they can save themselves technically..then who are fallen children?
Hm tis also supports the message kitsuu made we built different
Yeah I have gone like 2 times
Thats it we built different
I had a headcanon that they're the kids who went before us and reconnected the Light
Ye theres a skid gen theory
Like before the update??
I'm still siding with the Prince=Our Skid theory...
Also, have yall rechecked Isle...? 
I have also noticed something yesterday...I have seen so many of my friends were rebirthing in that place where all sky kids gathered...but most of them hadn't even gone to eden
Then how it's possible?
Nope i dont think the new mural is there

No is there still a bug? I have to go collect wings there
We discussed about the new mural but it was a bug so we just discussed beta content lmao
I'm asking since its related to the murals stuff
Ouuu
I think thats a bug
No wait its not a bug
They just appear there for no reason
Yeah..😂 one of my friend had already quitted..still he was there
And run into the gate thing without lighting it up
Why?
Hm lemme check

Also, trying bumping into the star gate thing in Isle
To see if it triggers anything

I only got the hair
I have to go to collect her .at that ark😢 but I hate krilsssssssssssssss
What's the lore for today ?
😢
What's lore? Can you explain?
Daily quest?
The story of Sky..,, It's what this channel is for..
Oh I didn't notice 😐
We discuss the backstory of what might have happened in the world of Sky beyond what the game tells us
Ohhhhhhhhhh... that's interesting
Sooo.. What's the lore for today, fellow theorists 
If you want to go and chat with fellow players about anything and everything about Sky (but spoiler-free !! Spoilers go to their respective channels while beta content stays in the beta channel), you can head on to #cozy-sky-discussion or #general-sky-discussion

Yea lol
Oof, I thought they would add stuff this update
Sad
Oh not really it's ok ..I wanna stay here
Oh welp, gonna wait if they add anything later then
Yup
So far it's only been lighting and the back of the temple not being naked 
Ehe
New intro? Idk
Feel free and make yourself comfy
!
Nice
OH !!
Yuppp thanks 😌 I also know about this theories. Seems really cool
ARE WE NOT GOING TO TALK ABOUT EDEN
We talked about eden
Eden looks cool
TALK MORE I WANNA HEAR
Spill the manta juice, Rizel
Sjsjnssk
And I kinda agree with that
Yeah I don't have any idea.. what's is manta?
What is a*
You don’t what a manta is?
I have freed on in daily quest ...but I don't know anything about them
I mean know the...like how they look like..but don't the backstory about them
Idk if there’s much shrugs
Yup I have saved them from.there
We turn to stone and then we glow gold for butterfly gaming she said that if we glow gold that means were saved like the other statues we saved glow gold so it supports my theory on our loght self saving us
Light *
It's been a theory that diamond factories like the temple of Hidden Forest and Broken Temple Area in Golden Wasteland used to basically juice Mantas/light creatures as part of the ingredients to produce a power diamond
Brb
Power diamonds are the diamond gems that you light up to trigger mechanisms such as doors, bridges and elevators
Also have you heard of the King
Welp he gone now
Yea like everyone else
Ohhhhhhhh🤯🤯🤯
It's too much information..I never have even though of it like that
She*😐
No what's that?
The King is the King of Sky who is also theorised to be the Eden Elder. He’s also our lord and saviour.
Hey anyone know when the sky anniversary is?
July? Also I think you should ask that in #questions-and-help
Mk tanks

Oh there is only one Theory I know
..like world is already destroyed because of pollution and now everything is rebuilding..and Eden is the core of the pollution..skykids try to give wings to children and want to wipe that pollution .untill that's done ..they have reborn again and again
I am not sure if this is right
Nope
Sky lore is vague
I think every realm represent..lifeforms of a human
Like infant childhood Teenage something like that
Eden is death
Yeah
I have read it on a article
Sometimes I think that sky is a continuation of journey...they are so alike
Unfortunately, Sky has nothing to do with Journey, story and gameplay-wise no matter how similar they may be since Sony has the rights for Journey and not TGC iirc
Ou I see
If you're interested, I have a few interesting links that are not in the pins for you to check out if you want ?
Journey is so beautiful.. every time I play sky it reminds of journey
Yup send them
The Canon Lore Doc
https://docs.google.com/document/d/10ZWJRGiJSrIXgDvJ4pST61moZbVB_hBExUjOaF-pmOE/edit?usp=sharing
The Theory Vault
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit?usp=sharing
Sky Leitmotifs
https://docs.google.com/document/d/19p_7mI1bI4fxKBk5ogVJCTsU7hzLJejqBgQTSJDAjuo/edit?usp=sharing
SkyShop Poems
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1BdMPoH0kRZOYDKvl2g5eQSH0h6JlvMHgBFs7P5Lg9NE/edit
Theory Vault
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1-SOY_5WrhQ2ftVZEM9VMBsz92-n_53kBzQoHKmY2-24/edit
Text in Vault
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1IX5VDRQXrVjY0hiBvU9AJAswxqtgSr2FlqCaiyivW3Y/edit?usp=drivesdk
Engravings in the golden bells
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1nSKhrpnzW95SOx4-x4fB924IbS9Swiah011-f_pqHgw/edit?usp=drivesdk
And make sure you check the pins, they are heaven to us theorists. :))
Text wall coming through 
Ok let me read them
Come back to us if you've theorized or want to discuss something from them !!

Imagine if they bring back the corrupted king bossfight in the Eden season
Season of Repentance?
If that does happen though, it'll be a great way to make a season that's both "lore" and "fun"
Yeah sure
True
I forgot to take a pic of the new race :(
But anyways
The race has a tunnel
And become a bit darker
Hello lore chat 👋
Nice

I kinda prefer the old eden buy I feel like this adds an interesting touch
The old castle looks better imo
Yea I heard a lot of people say the same lol
Ye
I mean, I like the new castle
Tho the statues
Or uh buildings
Underneath the castle is just
Out of place
Best of the old castle was that it had collision
well, before they do add collision again, i feel it is a good idea to try to get in the center part of the castle's sundog
I do like the changes to eden it really has a different vibe now
I don't have an opinion on the Eden changes, they are interesting tho
Old castle is preferred, though
Yes!
Yes I'll have to wait until next sunday/reset to see this new update...
you can go whenever
So statues don't disappear when you've already lit em? Is this new lore? /j
get a candle or two
I see it as new lore. When you die in Eden, you now also become a statue, but you also suspiciously look a lot like the statues you saved, since you glow gold rather than blue... 
the eden statues and us skids having resemblance is because, were partly the same
different filling flavour lol
they got normal light and we have some fancy fancy glowing children
so oreos and better oreos
I have the personal theory/headcanon that actually the statues are other skykids just like us that went to eden, and that every time we "die" we become a new statue and we stay in there until a new skykid arrives and gives us their light to free us again and allow us to reach orbit 
From this point of view the moment where we fall in darkness is brief to us, but maybe a lot of time has actually passed in the eye of eden since we "died".
I think that's why we "embrace" this new light in us, which is the one that will allow us to keep on going 
actually, if we die outside of eden, we get sent to a similar black area with a simgle winged light. It could be that our very soul is fused to a piece of light so we can save ourselves.
Sky is about helping others, but its also important to help ourselves.
Empathy and self-reliance
I knew there was a mechanic for that, but I've never experienced it personally!
I really like the idea of self-reliance you pointed and being strong enough to keep on going!
But now my own headcanons are now compromised 
Thats pretty much how I see it too. Its a cycle of kids saving other kids and then needing to be saved. But eyyy thats like 60 save per one kid so not bad!
Who could this be?
The statue looks like the Vault Elder, but the wheel on the back and hat is different.
Lore chat. I want these
Looks like the area is in Valley of Triumpth, there are quite a number of flying creatures there. Maybe this is something that was planned to be added but removed? It reminds me of the whale but more streamlined
Its in concept art, I think one of tom’s. Pretty pretty sky slug, so unique looking ✨
Oh man that one on the bottom right
Think that supports the idea that the pipes in wasteland are responsible for the dark water?
I feel like it was heavily implied before but still
Prolly. Maybe left over from when they planned for valley to be the celebration of beating creatures but further in is all the desolation but that makes no sense at all since creatures are all over all the other pictures
Yeah
Though I haven’t heard anything about valley supposed to be celebrating for defeating creatures
Do you mean dark creatures specifically? Orrr
Nope. Early draft had ansestors stupidly fighting light creatures
Weird
Im glad they got rid of it it was silly
Hm
Kind of a “wah wah the ancestors where wrong and bad all along”
Maybe they did still try to use the light creatures in unethical ways in the past
We know they are sources of light, which powers all sorts of things
Perhaps they tried to harness that power and went too far
Which is still kinda in present game but it has more justifiable reasons and a corrupt leader which I like much more
Yeah
I like the idea that they really screwed up and tried to control the light too much, resulting in the destruction of the kingdom and the creation of the dark creatures
Im not sure the creation of dark creatures. Im all for the attracting of dark creatures
Since krills are seen in all sorts of murals even before the downfall of the kingdom
True
Dark creatures being corrupted light creatures was a scrapped concept though
Maybe it can go both ways
You had to melt their dead bodies to free their hearts
They can be created by darkness but are also attracted by it
I would like to see a dark creature getting corrupted by light! Thats interesting!
Dump light spores on krill or something teehee
It is funny knowing skykids heal in fire and ever fire just has children chilling in it and sitting on it like nothing
Yeah
I remember when I first saw the big campfires in some of the hubs
And I was worried it would maybe deal damage but jumped in anyways
Imagine my surprise, despite the fact that fire had been good the whole game so far
Fun fact!
The real reason we won't ever get a journey crossover
Is
that the skykids would burn the wayfarers
the sony is just a cover
O. No. I need the imagined hug between them.
I want hug >:(
Skykids prolly emanate warmth though
Wayfarer: I'm made of cloth, what about you?
Sky Kid: fire.
Wayfarer: Fire?
Sky kid: Fire.
(The sky kid proceeds to light the Wayfarer on fire)
Maybe... Skykids and Journey Guardians... are made out of the same material 
you mean 0's and 1's?
they are both made of pixels
and code
They’re made of your mom
And developers' tears, never forget
Ok so my current theory is that the downfall of the kingdom was gradual at first, dark byproducts disposed of through the pipes leading into the wasteland. The dark water buildup kills off everything and attracts dark creatures over time. They send warriors to fight them off and it eventually turns into a full scale war, resulting in the battlefield ruins. The dark creatures win, perhaps timed with or powered up by the power source in Eden melting down or exploding or something
Sounds about right.
My brain is so large
one of the planets outside of Eden could be Journey's world?
Maybe every planet in the galaxy has an "Eye of Eden"
They look like they could pass for desert planets
I like to think other places have more sets of elders. Since I fallen in love with all the mad concept art ones they didnt use.
What if the black liquid we see is a byproduct you get from the dark crystals?
I have also same question
This isn't exactly lore related but I was wondering who started King Propaganda in the first place
Is it me or Sky looks like is was mend to be "make a jam game"??
first mention and the meme
#lore-discussion-spoilers message
Thanks, lol
The beginning of an era
Wow

ahh good times. yes that's my old account, i hope king propaganda has been living on well here 
oh it is :)
we’ve been expanding yes
Actually..... What is "king propaganda"
Funny, Im trying to make some storyboard about the Prince (Probably wont ever be able to finish it, lol)
My brain not working really good on "this propaganda"
Tho, didn't KTJN dissuaded us from using "propaganda" too often?
So does king look like a bad guy?
I dont know to hate him or support him
My theory of Sky is that the King of Eden was so thirsty for power that his thirst became darkness and thus he created the huge diamond dark crystal that absorbs light which is so strong that it exploded and scattered around all the realms that caused global chaos which leads to us sky kids seeing them us spirits to seek their past memories.
||I wish Matpat knows Sky he could make tons of theories about it||
I mean he has statues of himself everywhere. Even the gates have him woven in.
Yes he just like normal human with "humanic instincts"
I think he was good, turned bad, and at the last second, was redeemed.
Tho, its possible the Elders and spirits insisted on making those statues of the King rather than the King wanting them to be made
It can easily be interpreted that way too
Oo thats interesting. A royal under pressure to be a royal
There's something that reinforces this, but I'm unsure if I'm allowed to share it, sooo
Well, its not too big tho
If the idea of the mech, or false body is true, I can imagine, maybe after the start of the storm, im about to get fanfic-y but. Maybe it was destroyed in the storm and he was left just as his own small self, realizing everything he caused and having to cope in the eden tunnel to point of no return.
Ahh, that's what the storyboard thing I'm making was about
You just coincidently guessed what was gonna be in it, lol
But as I said, I don't think I'll be able to really finish this someday
Wow I imagined it as a comic too this idea is spreading through the air.
Or maybe its just the natural tragic picture that comes from assuming he is the cause of the glowboys in the tunnel.
They do look a little contemplative
Yeah
Actually i imaginate this...
In that dark limbo, after we dead, both grey and white kid were not us at first... But we died and be "dark side king/prince" to meet our "light side(the good one or the innocent)" but after both of them forgive each other, we got our own body back, the result of King forgiving himself and let us to reborn again and ascend to his Castle once more
Thats adorable too. And kinda like, just another realm, where you go meet the elder at the end. Except its you.
But after we reborn... We just reset everything again, including King's memory in forgiving himself...
And now... Maybe that is the meaning stuck in the limbo?
Like Dr Strange replay his own life in there?
Maybe he just wants more hugs?
those hugs i will give

Idk what I'm gonna be able to do with this...
There's supposed to be a lot of symbolism here, the numbers around the top panels are timestamps for the song I'm thinking of using
I just couldn't get these ideas out of my head, so I'm drawing them out
I like the idea of the King being influenced by the Elders to do questionable things
Plus, Sky is kinda a story about generations and stuff. Prince/King seemed to be a new gen, who grew up in the footsteps of the Elders
Ye
In fact, its kinda the main theme of the storyboard stuff I'm making rn
Cool!
One of the lines in the song translates to "Eventually, we will forget we once were kids" 😅
Wow
From tomzhao.com
His concept art is not only beautiful but has a lot of lore!! Of course not all of it might be accurate to the present sky but it’s still interesting
Yes
Hey, guys! It's been a while
This is going to sound dumb, and likely weird
But I think that there was a Civil War at one point.
After a couple of Candle runs... I think I have a weird theory.
That there's always been two separate 'religions' in Sky.
Well, kind of. Likely one religion that was split.
Well, we know that the Prince and King were represented by the diamonds, yeah?
Well, I think the Megabird has two symbols. The 'bird' like symbols we see, then there's a circle with a dot in the middle.
Or at least the Circle with the dot in the middle is likely the portion of the people who worship the Megabird, but don't follow the King.
Though, I think two factions were one at one point.
Oh yeah, remembered this other idea I had about the Civil War
That’s an interesting theory!
Here's this symbol that's at the entrance to the Isle temple. It looks like a combo of both.
ooh i thought that too
GW Elder was on the side of the sun shields. GW Elder and Valley Elders were in charge of two realms that were connected
Though, I have proof of the 'Circle' faction existing during the prairie days, and that being possibly around when it was formed.
Is this timeline canon?
I think
Its non-canon now
Its a concept timeline. An idea about the history of Sky, but got scrapped
Oh wow
Or it's likely the other way around.
And the Wasteland Elder has a diamond on his shield, I thought.
in the vault mural i suppose
It got scrapped? Ah shucks so it isn’t canon then
my theory about the war is that it started as a workers uprising (Sun shield) against diamond production since it harmed their realm and the elder was told to supress it(diamond shield)but later rebelled in favour of their people and switched sides (sun shield)
which is why in the vault’s final cutscene constellation mural of gw has the elder with a diamond shield along with those in prophecy but they have a sun shield on their shrine
👌
baaaack
Sorry, thought i'd be back sooner, but a little kitten demanded my attention.
I love the concept art a lot, especially these whale bois
Maybe if one of these was actually implemented they'd function like ethereal trains
Hey ummmmm ||the home trick doesn’t work anymore!||
Yes
amazin
||instrument trick is still OK||
Ikr
they look smth out of journey
like the guardians 
or sentinels watever theyre called
Um is this about lore
N o
I think they’re just warning us yknow
Just in-case we go somewhere in GW or Eden
for lore
and uh
ye
Hey what are the darkness plants based off of?
well, I haven’t heard anyone uhh
talking about it
but I think its based from uhhhhh mushrooms?
ah
On another note though, does anyone have lore ideas on corrupted skykids? I jsut like hearing other people's ideas on the matter
I mean, if we have corrupted skids
I think they do indeed look like venus fly traps but their behavior is similar to fungi 
it would be interesting if some parts of their body are statues
ah oki
Ykniw
Side note, the word Eden itself isn't a spoiler anywhere ! 
?????
P ye
I keep forgetting rip
but I love the statue idea
Just slowly turning into stone instead of a krill
Yeye
And maybe some red crystals growing
Actually wait
Instead of the diamond thingy on our head and chest
Its the red crystals
Since there’s a theory of the red crytals being diamonds
But a lot of darkness
maybe the black stuff/blue glow?
And the diamond on our forehead as uhh diamonds but light yknow
ik that when you use up a wedge the glow of your skykid turns blue so since its just always gone the crystals can be blue
:0
Wait, I just had a thought
Also, the mask is like
Cracking
Ig
wait, but if you consider the ‘cosmetics are light’ theory then-
What if the skater girl's performance actually occurred on the Prince's coronation???
O
oo maybe
maybe
but I personally would say no because imo tech still sucks when King was coronated
I mean, there's a lot of people in the memory for some reason
oh true
And why would skater girl perform in a place so so big with lots of people?
school talent show /j
I-
You know, I'm certain that in big celebrations like a coronation would have some performances afterwards and stuff
That definitely could've happened with skater girl's performance. Also, the performance occurred at night somehow rather than the usual sunset
Meaning this performance somehow could've occurred sometime after some event that would've happened at sunset.
The devs could've just made it night time to give this grand feeling tho
Also, this would confirm my headcanon further that the Prince actually saw the girl's performances and is the one who actually suggested her being the one to perform at the stadium 
Oooooh
Yeah, they snuck into the village and ended up seeing the girl's performance and went
"Woah, she's so good!!"
And when they went back, told the Elders about it
I also had this other idea that the girl's mom (QG) actually caught the Prince, but decided to keep it a secret
O
Are we very similar to the king
maybe
Maybe
So that's why they deleted the king and his lighting headwear
I
Moral of the story: The real King are the friends we made along the way (literally)
The kid we hugged in the black room?
Ye ig
I thought it's myself
OK, so the topic brings up to the Beta content about The Little Prince, for those players who are from live could leave these images as censored. Here I go
How do I add spoilers on image again :p
Anyway, forget it
What’s actually been proven to be canon? I mean like only the things that the devs have confirmed so far
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Thanks appreciate it
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Please delete this. It's beta content.
Someone : posts beta content outside beta channel
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Pls delete before krill
And the mods show up
And the crabs
And the dark smoke with swirly eyes
And the Krill concept art
FINALLY
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Thank you !! 
inhales
exhales
Thank you so much joshur
I wonder if it tastes like orange flavored crab, or crab flavored orange 
"Who is that skid I seeeee? Staring straight, back at meeee-" 🎵
Looking at you white chocolate child that appears when you die in eden 
there’s a dish in my country being crab meat stuffed in orange-
orange and crab
MULAN IS ONE OF MY FAVORITE MOVIES 
AYO MINE TOO
Alrighty what do we be talking about today.
Valley in the winter has ice so Valley in the summer would have water, do they get around by boat?
Tall mountains still have snow in the summer though, so i think it would probably just stay there
but then again there are a lot of boats in the village
but they do fly...
There is a new statue inside the stormlock, and it cannot be saved with a WL, but it has a golden wound
Random thing in my mind that has no evidence backing it up and even though i didn't know that was there here is my thoughts on it:
it looks like the child that falls out of the sky in the isle spirit memory
and its a special thing, because of the gold, so maybe?
No one's here?
you cant see eden from the hermit's mountain so that means its higher than eden
idk why i put that here but anyway i still find it weird how theres only 5 eldurs on the eden door and not six
like why is one excluded?
I don't think it miss that the peek is higher than Eden
it is also not visible in the Citadel
i believe its behind it
but at least devs should put a visible beacon of light
But for hermit mountain it should clearly be visable no matter what
I fear devs forgot about such a simply tiny details 
ill give it mine to be my friend
I know you're saying "I'll give it mine" to be friendly and joke, but thats exactly what I'm implying
Or
Dev 1:"wow, we made a beautiful sunset here in Dreams"
dev2: "Indeed..."
Dev2: "wai... where is the Eden beacon"
dev1: "....."
dev2 :"....."
Dev1: "let's pretend it's behind the sunset"
Dev2 :"yeah"
Once you hand over your winged light, you become a blue light, right?
Maybe that vesle is now there to give an answer to "what happens to you now that your body and winged light are gone?
I think I even noticed that now, in the revive sequence, the fallen we saved , no are free from their physical bonds, turns into golden souls and fly away (leaving behind their bodies/statues)
So, maybe that gold-wounded statue is not like the others
Our sky kid, for example loses its shape (by disintegration) but still have the soul
Ah yes its behind a sun outside of the atmosphere
So maybe our strong soul meets its statues and its distressed soul on the verge of death
But our encounter saves him in the last bit, by bonding and fusing with us
His body + our soul = the chance of freeing ourselves and also all the others
Unity makes us stronger, even in a direful time
Im going to rerun Eden now, to see if it's still there 😅
It would make much sense, if Eden becuase start form the ground of this planet, the sun cannot be between the beacon and us
It would meant that sun to be inside the planet atmosphere

But maaaybe... it's just a question of magnitude of light... the light of the sun is so bright that is perceived more than the beacon light (much like irl, the lights of the stars are not visble at day, because the ligth of the sun is relatively stronger, because it's closer)
but the mountain is a physical object
...but still, in the full glow of the sunset in the last section of the flying/skiing race, the Eden beacon is still visible, and the light source of the sun/sunset is still quite strong
Yes, the mountain might cover, like initially thought when I noticed the beacon absence in the Citadel
but the beacon is infinitely long
imho it should even peek out above the mountains
still the moubtain itself should be visible even if its infront of the sun
its definately not that far away that the sun is so bright it blurs out the mountain
You mean the Eden mountain, right?
yes
mmm, yes, I think you're right!
so obviously its just a detail mistake by tgc
DEVS 
FIX IT
GUYS
It seems now the gold-wounded statue is a format to highlight the previously saved fallen ones, but I am 100% sure I didn't enter Eden this week (further more, there not just by saying
The Gold-Wounded)
They became many and lived in harmony AS spirits
oh... yeah
that murals from some days ago Isle Of Bug
so, now they're on live 
🎉🎉🎉🎉
And also the stars now fell AFTER sky kingdom was founded. Meaning King might have been why the stars fell not how he got there in the first place.
some discussed the same theory as yours "they probably were spirits all along"
Exactly but I was not allowed to discuss it then
while intriguing, others thought that would be strange for spirits to need food , buildings and tombs
And they could have families and such. Thus: all the spirits freed from being corrupted and dormant are continuing their lives exactly as they left it.
All the kid spirits are fine! And can keep living life and
Maybe they lived in harmony means the living had a tie with the spirits, like a strong bond within the physical world with the spirit world
Skys lore a lot less dark
Also the aspect of ancestors shepherding light finally elaborated on more
But I think they might have not kept living, rather that the spirit could still visit their relative/living Ancestors
Im not sure there was living people made of flesh at all
if devs would have used the term Ancestors they probably confused the new moths. so maybe there is always the chance of being just a choice of simple and easy a term
Or “we as spirits lived in harmony and became many and also theres some flesh people somewhere too”
And that sky kids are called “descendants” more of a term of one era of civilizations being a parent to the next even if they are not exactly the children of spirits.
if they are actually spirits... then why do they even need graves-
i believe they are indeed spirits but gained mortal body somehow
Double triple dead? Maybe they could still mourn passing on or going dormant?
we do still see playdead die though dont we?
and lightminers friends
My scouting mission in stormlock has found another proof about The Golden Wounded
Somehow they are both spirits and can go dormant and also still die. Humm 
if they are indeed spirits, perhaps they gained mortal body when they come to sky kingdom as their part in the cycle of life... and when its time for them to go back to megabirb they will leave that mortal body and become stars, and perhaps got rebirthed again (since its a cycle of life anyway)
Dang that fits Prince theory too well.
The Golden Wounded is a 64th fallen statue in Stormlock, located to be precisely after the sand dune
that means they already saved btw
also does anyone got the option to do laugh emote after collecting the ACs in orbit?
And about shepherding light. It seems to be like that one concept diagram where spirits fill up themselves to ascend to the megabird and come back down to get more birdfeed.
Yes, if you redo Eden run there saved ones are goldwuounded too
smh i watched soemone on twitter got that option and i legit confused when i asked here and no one say anything about it
but I didn't run this week and I did my first after the update
There was 64th statue, after the sand dune
huh, interesting... i really should do eden someday
And precisely near the 62nd statue
Mm. I hope they keep the fire ones being saved. I don’t want to have to closely peer into their wounds to see if I already saved them...
But at my secon eden run it was missing, until I died, it magically reappeared
Haunted statue
'you think im gone? sike'
yes, I did 
you did???
wait wiat hol up
please tell me you aint joking
since i got a theory about that lmao-
did you get that after the last update btw?
Dang im gonna have to eden sometime
No, I am notjoking, I was merrily waiting for the ascended wax to autoreach me when they swarned to me and the laugh emote popped up
OOH, I stopped my second death just in time
and return shrine brought me back to the exact moment I slowly die
And after i walk myself into death The 64th appear out of nowhere near me, but I am pretty suer I was shattered
Truthfully, im not sure if this makes sense but i suspect this is actually reffering to The Little Prince?
In one part, the Little Prince mentioned that whenever 'the aviator' listen to the stars, he will hear laughter since he is in one of them (the stars). he says this before he 'goes back to his rose', practically saying goodbye to the aviator.
Interestingly, Sky kids are also called as Children of Star.
So, it's like our soul get a grip of the closest fallen one
interesting, it might be a reference to TLP
ikr!
also, 💩
thats what i thought when i see that vid about the laugh emote-
wat-
!er ...mmm ... next reset is in 13 hours. And I would really like to see if I spotted the 64th by a mistake/bug or not

I couldn't find a timezone called '...mmm ... next reset is in 13 hours. And I would really like to see if I spotted the 64th by a mistake/bug or not
.' Maybe you can find your timezone in this list https://gist.github.com/heyalexej/8bf688fd67d7199be4a1682b3eec7568
Is this a new thing, the command "!er" can even take an argument? XD
@bitter shale did you by chance have the button to hug the shiny boy out of line too?
my
was centered horizontally, but no vertically
hh
yeah but we cant disscuss about that here, for now-
yea
tbh beta channel is too... chaotic rn so yeah-
I kind loved the old Eden Castle, it was more full of pinnacle, the new one, just have like... 5 towers
of course it is
But I like that now there are more birds . And a good refined whale too (
is now wearing a grey helmet)
ohhh nice nice
I liked how the tip was separated from the top. Like its being drug to orbit
huh-
yes, the separted part is nice
it's even kindof aligned like a celtic cross or the shape of the WL glow
well, something of the debris maybe fell down, cause a bit of the jelly part or the stairs is slightly different
Told you I wasn't kidding
😁
Kind of a random thing to do after dying and winding up in a beautiful serene place. I don’t think sky outta be THAT TLP influenced
Maybe if it only last during the duration of the season though. If it really is a reference. Its a nice nod:
i mean... they once said that TLP is indeed the main inspiration of sky so-
otherwise kinda kills the mood
The new castle, arranged like the WL glow (+ the new whale texture)
Who said?
An actual dev?
nvm i recall it was said by Jenova on a chinese interview about the crossover


