lore-discussion-spoilers

[scenic siren]

I keep thinking about sky kids temperature

If their body made of wax, then they should be somewhere below wax melt temperature to stay solid. I think human may get burn if hug sky kid (can still hug them through thick clothes). They are not hot enough to fry egg on their back

Also, there will be hotter liquid wax near the flame, which may travel around to keep the body warm, like a form of blood

[keen shore]

skykids are likely not made of wax, but clay, stone, or meteorites instead

[untold notch]

skykids are made of game mechanic

[round parrot]

aka plot armor

[fading island]

they're made of the finest code spaghetti

[sharp lichen]

kid++

ok pizza cutter

[slate saffron]

Baud de shaw moment

[viral bay]

My favourite thing about skykid material is that someone said that we are just a bunch of sentient meteorites that imitate actions from ghosts/dead people

[tough coral]

i think skykids have like. down feathers and maybe chitin under that. like a weird bird bug thing. i dont think theyre made of artificial stuff

[midnight sonnet]

I want a pizza cutter in game now

[opaque lotus]

i wonder how the sky kids got their capes and ability to fly? in the isle spirit cutscene we see that the kid is wingless, so how did they learn?

[eternal totem]

You'd have your wings by the time you awaken Isle Elder...?
In earlier versions of the cutscene it was Isle who would grant you the ability to fly

[rigid mural]

Perhaps the kid in Ushering Stargazer's memory wasn't a sky kid then ?
Skykids get their wings in the Isle, in-game.

[eternal totem]

Isle spirit
I can't read

[rigid mural]

It seems like winged light are linked to our ability to fly tho; the very first one you get gives you your cape.

[eternal totem]

There's the idea of Skykid generations depending on the era they fell in, so maybe earlier Skykids just didn't have any yet

[rigid mural]

Would make it hard to fly up from the dock to the Isle temple though, but perhaps these wingless skykids were born at a time ancestors were still here and could help them ? The kids in the trailer looks like skykids tho so maybe skykids just look like regular ancestor kids and couldn't be told apart without the cape.

[eternal totem]

Yeah that's I'm suggesting, they fell when Ancestors were still alive, they probably had a different purpose too compared to now

[rigid mural]

I like to think ancestors and skykids are the same specie (perhaps one is a different subspecie tho since the switch trailer kid has a chest light they cover in the animation trailer).

[copper saffron]

i hc that skykids are reincarnated ancestor kids

[rigid mural]

Like an ancestor could look at one of these airborne menaces and go "yeah that's someone's child"

[rigid mural]

YEAH ME TOO
I have a theory that light = memories, so creatures ascending to Orbit leave their light and memories there before moving onto the next life; those memories manifest as the spirit we know (pretty much a copy of the dead) while the soul eventually falls back down to the kingdom.

Ascending a spirit could mean permanently connecting their memories to the Light and sending their soul blank of memories back to be reborn.

But yeah, all this to say: ancestors reborn as Skykids.

I'd consider that a part of the "Egg theory" since the short story it's named after has something similar where each rebirth adds to memories the protagonist has but can't access when alive.

[sharp lichen]

I think that Ancestors are, well, the Ancestors of Skykids. They’re somewhat related but distinct enough to be considered different species

[eternal totem]

Hybrids

[rigid mural]

Yeah old concept had skykids be ancestor and light creature hybrids !

[compact shale]

If you were a reborn ancestor, who was your previous life?

[rigid mural]

I think that's a really cool thing to think about tho, could be bittersweet that the ancestors were given another chance to live here, albeit in another form.
So just like skykids have to rely on eachother, through them, ancestors also rely on and help eachother.

[eternal totem]

I had a weird dream that Wasteland gave me the key to their temple for some reason, then my teeth started falling out

[copper saffron]

being reborn with no memories brings plenty of angst potential

[tepid veldt]

thanks lango

[compact shale]

If everyone is reborn with no memories is it still angsty?

[round parrot]

mmm and I thought ||my OC loosing their memories as a sacrifice was angsty enough||

[eternal totem]

A bird

[copper saffron]

probably?

[round parrot]

Honestly, it depends on how it affects said Skykid. If a Skykid doesn't care, then probably not, but if a Skykid does care, it might affect them (same goes to the ancestors who had a relationship to the ancestor that has been reincarnated)

[compact shale]

Think about it.

If some people are reborn without memories, some others are aware that their previous life was wiped out, and they may make that fact aware to the reborn ones too, thus breeding angst.

But if everyone is reborn without memories, there's no point in contemplating your previous life because no one knows it exists

well except Megabird but I guess that's where it falls apart

[copper saffron]

they probably dont think to ask about who they were in their past life. but once they do, perhaps by finding their respective spirit memory, they might then begin a search, which could be taken pretty far. they might be driven to insanity, an endless search for someone or something, who is almost certainly long dead. i do this in my au, tho with another fandom, the core idea is the same.

[compact shale]

I thought ascending the spirit meant that their memories were taken to the light, so once they become reborn, whatever memories that might still be in the world definitely aren't theirs.

[copper saffron]

it's still a memory recording. it doesnt matter if the person they were was long gone, or reborn. it's a snapshot of a point in time.

[compact shale]

What I mean was that, I thought Megabird took the recordings too

[copper saffron]

this would just be a differentiation in headcanon lmao.

[rigid mural]

The protagonist in "The Egg" by Andy Weir kinda does that, realizes they live through every human life on earth. He's told that should he stay in the afterlife for long enough, he will start remembering everything (but the narrator discourages him from doing so by saying there's no point in doing that between each life).

[compact shale]

I mean, cover your tracks am I right?

[copper saffron]

i suppose so. putting megabird in a negative light is an interesting idea, but one that i agree with because neither light nor dark is inherently good or bad

[round parrot]

||Help this reincarnation trope is giving me flashbacks to the Guardians of Childhood Jack Frost book||

[compact shale]

I thought making sure you couldn't ever find out your past life was the merciful thing to do! Like, genuinely!

[copper saffron]

this trope is a good trope and i use it extensively in my sky fic thing. which also happens to be about guardians. of a different kind.

[copper saffron]

but it'd be so much more interesting if not. but fair!

[round parrot]

Developed headcanon that a Skykid seeing who they were before can help them improve as an individual

Example:|| A Skykid was a reincarnation of a hunter who hunted down light creatures (for the diamonds), now in this life, the skykid can befriend light creatures and protect them from danger||

[compact shale]

In my fics I have two separate Megabirds.

In my main ficverse Megabird is a being of many consciousness, but with a main one that finalizes all the decisions... theoretically. Sometimes some other consciousnesses make things happen without the main one's approval, and They or Their creations have to deal with the consequences of that.

In a darker future fic, Megabird has made multiple attempts to create worlds, but their own creations ended up destroying their worlds no matter what They tried. Eventually, with Sky, They thought They got it right this time, but the destruction happened again. Except in this case, They actually got attached to Their creations and didn't want to deconstruct them to start over. Instead, They gave Their creations a way to clean up the world and become pure light again so that when their creations (ancestors/skykids) discover and do it, they'll have gone back to Megabird forever by their own will.

[hushed steeple]

What does this channel mean is it like theories?

[sharp lichen]

Theories, ideas, and headcanons about the Sky world and characters!

Welcome, do you want an introductory document?

[hushed steeple]

Sure I don’t see why not

[livid pelican]

My headcanon for skykids is that they can be two things:

One is newly made by Megabird, in which they would spend their first lives in the current sky realm and now have to figure out the story ( a.k.a players)

While the other are previous spirits that lived in sky realm before eden and are chosen by fate to reincarnate.

[sharp lichen]

https://docs.google.com/document/d/12XSkaMV_5UYG-an_Qo37ItyKP6GaqBBA6iRqBVE2qck/edit

[copper saffron]

ooo i like the multiple worlds idea.

[hushed steeple]

Omg thank you so much

[tepid veldt]

hope we get you hooked, fall into the lorechat trap with us /hj

[round parrot]

It could probably explain why there are other planet we see in the orbit credit cutscene. ||From what I saw from those two planets, they obviously don't have water, let alone grass, so perhaps it was abandoned or deserted?||

[copper saffron]

there are other planets there?
in my au, since it's a crossover, i came up with the concept that the light and darkness permeate across many universes, taking different forms and qualities. each universe is a different 'game' played by the light and darkness, to see who would come out on top.

[round parrot]

Credits to: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyG3mBwV2Ks

(Little detail, but after the appearance of these two planets, the megabird constellation appears)

[copper saffron]

looks like mars or some other planet
either way, another thing i can yeet into crossover world. the light expands to our system too

[round parrot]

Well, technically, Mars was said to have life on it before, till it became the sandy, red planet we all know today

[copper saffron]

yeah actually. maybe the light was once there

[hoary ingot]

Does anyone know what the last shard meant? What was happening there

[sharp lichen]

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Read these to help!

[hoary ingot]

Thanks!

[sharp lichen]

I guess the stereotypes are true, we do help newcomers by showing them massive essays

[frigid tinsel]

Those being Baud’s interpretations. If you scroll up, you’ll see there’s a whole bunch of varying interpretations. But the common thread between them is the assumption that the Elders were there to stop the Eden diamond. Unfortunately, they were too late or failed

[sharp lichen]

There’s also the star-like shape falling at the very top

[eternal totem]

Myst why'd you link that 💀

[round parrot]

It's an infographic about a common theory with the star-like figure in the last shard memory wym?

[hoary ingot]

LMAO not a newcomer, just didn’t keep up with the shards is all. Glad the season is finally over, though.

[frigid tinsel]

“Glad the season is finally over” they say, unaware that shards still fall all over the realms

[eternal totem]

I wonder if we'll get another season that reincorporates frozen memories lol

[round parrot]

or probably something different. Who know? Maybe we can get lore crumbs when TGC does a collab with Jeff Bez- /lh

[frigid tinsel]

Ah yes, collab with the guy notorious for exploiting labor, natural resources, and human rights abuses as well as monopolizing the online market to make billions of dollars off of vulnerable people. That’ll go swimmingly alongside the game that advocates mutual community compassion and protection of the environment

[runic patrol]

season of capitalism where your skykid has to have enough candles (money) to feed their family on minimum wage

[frigid tinsel]

Season of Capitalism

[runic patrol]

yes thank you I cannot english

[hoary ingot]

when’s the Aurora collab?

[frigid tinsel]

It’s in beta rn but there’s no release date for Live

[eternal totem]

We don't know, it'll eventually be announced in #news

[potent sedge]

Honestly i want a collab with Austin wintory

[copper saffron]

in game says 17 days last time i checked

[potent sedge]

Wintory's cellos are too pure and amazing

Omg cello instrument
Gimme gimme

[runic patrol]

CELLO INSTRUMENT I'm so sad I missed out on the flute because I play the flute in real life

[frigid tinsel]

Nope. There’s no countdown on the title screen

Also TLP moths, how we feeling

[round parrot]

Not a TLP moth, but missing the prince rn totally not adding this to my OC agnst
||Missing him more after knowing that a TV show for the Prince exists||

[copper saffron]

i swear there was one yesterday

[eternal totem]

Langodan is right, the timer would appear in some sessions, but not always. Although I would advise not to trust it yet until an official date is announced either way

[atomic lava]

maybe for the end of lazy days?

[lusty merlin]

Very happy I only got star collector tie which was like a makeshift pendant for me so I’m happy that I can finally get the other prince cosmetics

[eternal totem]

"Days of" events never have in-game timers, the timer on the start-up screen has always been for seasons

[rigid mural]

If you talk to the questgiver of the event, you get a timer for when they leave !

[eternal totem]

Oh right lol my bad, but my point stands about the start-up screen timer

[rustic glen]

My cousin just started playing and she is doing the lilprince quests, and it's making me so nostalgic and sad 🥲 I miss him

[nimble ingot]

Philosophical Question:
Would Sky Ancestors have paper?

[frigid tinsel]

They have trees, that’s enough to make paper pulp

[nimble ingot]

If they can have books, and scrolls. Then Would they prefer using paper?
If so, then why does Vault shockingly lack paper?
Regardless of the game's limitations, the question stands.

[eternal totem]

Maybe paper is not as common or convenient? We do have paper to create message boats & cranes, but it's only ever used for that. They'd rather carve on stone/bones/skin, paint with light/flame or whatelse

Paper might not be the best way to store knowledgeable, it's fragile

[frigid tinsel]

Paper isn’t a good long-term storage medium considering it can weather and be damaged. One spilled coffee and you can ruin a while book.

Memory cubes, on the other hand, seem more durable and can presumably last longer. I mean, we have memory cubes. We don’t have any sign of paper except for that one map the Abyss crew had.

The creators of the Vault of Knowledge may have preferred a medium that could store knowledge against any environmental elements that could ruin other mediums. Paper can last a long time when stored properly, but it is less likely

[nimble ingot]

hmm.. true and interesting points.

I recall somewhere it was mentioned that the ancestor spirits used to travel by foot, then by boat, then by portal. With the portal aspect being either a rare, or exclusive form of transport.
Which makes one wonder what other factors would have a similar structure, such as paper being used by one group of ancestors, while others use the memory cubes.

Looking at the Valley, the citadel has no boats, although the Village does.
The citadel, albeit limited in its exploration does not seemingly rely on paper as much as the Performance cast in the Village would.
Furthering this comparison, the Rhythm cast rode an Elder bird, while the Performance and Dreams casts either went on foot, or by boat from what it seems with the area's layout. Which contrasts the Citadel's aesthetic of floating platforms and open floor plan (where papers would have likely blown out of).

Moving on the Wasteland. We see a similar thing happen with the Abyss crew using paper maps, while the merchants of Enchantment had lanterns/memory cubes.

[distant turtle]

Oh, are these ghost arches a memory of the walls of Eden?

[frigid tinsel]

Could be the true structures that are covered by the Vault’s manifestations

[rigid mural]

Some spirits have books or are depicted with book, see the bald spirit in 's memory or Sneezing Geographer

[eternal totem]

Greeter also holds a map in promo artwork (& the old version of their bag besides them) there's traces of paper in some places/spirits but it's not that many

[keen shore]

there are scrolls on sleepy travelers boat & in the ark, as well as the assembky map, I think there might be paper in the windpaths too? Off the top of my head

[sly lake]

There's paper in the Performance theater too, correct?

[keen shore]

or WL only existed post fall which is just as interesting imo

[eternal totem]

I think it did exist post fall, if the generations idea is plausible I wonder how'd they interact with each other

[keen shore]

i think it would be a bit weird for ancestors to be walking around and just see a random glowing kid silhouette they can’t really interact with, & plus they’re not in murals

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, I think Skykids only came After the Calamity destroyed all the Ancestors.

[scenic siren]

For some reason I think instant recharge are made of WL's powder, like, scoop the powder from shiny boi and put it inside bottles

[sharp lichen]

I mean, there’s so many ways to recharge your light, it could be anything

[eternal totem]

It's sunlight Enchantment trapped in a bottle

[keen shore]

at least one skykid came before the disaster, but it would be really weird if there was more than one and nobody really cared about them

[sharp lichen]

If there was one Skykid, they would be focused on a lot. We really don’t even know if the King/Prince is a Skykid

[keen shore]

I mean it’s pretty obvious

• fell from the sky in the exact way as a skykid and looks the exact same
• depicted with the same symbol as skykids but without WL symbol

[sharp lichen]

Now that I think about it, yeah

[keen shore]

Not deemed worthy of growing Dusk’s secret bones 😔 sad

[eternal totem]

I think I got punched for being granted the key

[keen shore]

who punched you

[eternal totem]

Don't remember

The key had this design, scholar & a Skykid

The key was comically large btw

[south oracle]

Megabird really said
"Let's try something new"
ends up destroying the sky kingdom

[uncut pond]

I'm hella late but I just wanna say, since skids obtain their capes and power from WL, maybe Skids aren't born with the ability to fly with the power of WL as many though, but it could rather be the other way around and it is WLs that lend us their power and give us flight, although skids could still have the unique ability to manifest that power in the form of flight

[pastel brook]

I like the way you think!

[tepid veldt]

i do too skybot

[hushed steeple]

Hey guys! I just wanted to share an old theory that was performance related. Did you notice, out of nowhere, the spirits need cheering up. Also in the first two quests we the guide, but in the fourth, I think, he's gone.

My theory is that the guide died, sending of the spirits into a great depression, the show didn't go on. As how Perf. Guide died, well, the cliff near the theatre looks really far from the ground.

Maybe after something happened to their sibling?

Mellow became a dark water addict, Modest well prob followed a similar fate, Story Teller was partly spared due to developping Alzheimer's and stage hand became frantic and nervous

SOOO practically isn't only abt performance but also abt closure and acting and hiding your pain behind a mask

[earnest briar]

No, I'm pretty sure Guide is there in the 4th quest but I can go check.

[hushed steeple]

Well I mean he never interacts with the crew, or so I remember

[earnest briar]

Use 'they' please, the Spirits have no canonical gender. That goes for every Spirit.

[hushed steeple]

Sorry I slipped up
I remember when a guy tried to debate that, whole Lorechat came into the argument

[earnest briar]

Technically 'he' is just as valid because it's up for interpretation. Just as long as you don't go forcing your gender headcanons on others.

[hushed steeple]

I'm not forcing anything tough

[frigid tinsel]

the spirits are agender ≠ up for interpretation

[hushed steeple]

Well if they're agender is spirit a gender? lol *it's a joke might be lame

[earnest briar]

Oh right I think I misremembered. Sorry Alasdair.

[frigid tinsel]

anyways, I don’t think Performance guide died (well they’re all dead but bear with me) cos after the fourth quest, the rest of the crew present to them and in the first quest, Performance guide does beat up Stagehand

[hushed steeple]

I guess, but someone died, I just know someone died and got them in a mood, I hope it's guide and not someone from 'Dreams village'

Maybe the dancing performer

[frigid tinsel]

they just all seemed to be caught with stage fright

[hushed steeple]

Alr

[frigid tinsel]

Here’s the quest four cutscene btw

There is also the “go see if you can cheer them up” text after that but that goes over Discord’s limit of 30sec video for non-nitro users

[crude flame]

Sorry if it’s a bit off-topic, but does anyone have any thoughts or headcanons as to why a sky kid’s flame turns blue upon losing a wedge of energy?

[frigid tinsel]

that's not their flame. they create a blue light upon using a charge

as for why? ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[crude flame]

Hmm, maybe ‘flame’ is perhaps for a lack of a better word, I just noticed that they normally emit a warm glow, that seems to turn blue instead
In any case, I still find it an interesting change!

[frigid tinsel]

well, you’re right — skykids usually emit a warm glow, whether from the light within or their flame specifically is up for debate. could be both. though not sure why that glow shifts blue when using a cape charge.

[tepid veldt]

does blue represent darkness/without light? maybe when we use a charge, we have less light, therefore it flashes blue for a moment?

[sharp lichen]

It’s strange because guides are in a limbo between death and not death. They fully interact with the world, but they have the ghostly effect that all spirits do.

[frigid tinsel]

blue seems to represent passive darkness – inactive power diamonds, dark plants – things that hold light, sit around, but isn't taking it. though I'd argue that using a cape charge is an active thing

[crude flame]

Probably not what’s actually happening, but the most I can personally think of right now is how blue fire is typically hotter, which makes me think that their inner light or flame may be hotter upon burning a wedge of energy, that’s all I’ve got though

However, their light turns blue regardless of whether they deliberately consume their energy, or it gets taken from them by other things, such as rain, so I don’t think it perfectly lines up
Still fun to discuss anyways! I appreciate hearing your thoughts !

[sharp lichen]

One thing to notice is that the diamonds used to power doors are blue if they don’t have any light, and yellow once you light them

[crude flame]

That’s true as well, similar to what Iydll said, blue also tends to represent darkness or a lack of light whereas yellow seemingly tends to represent light in general
Perhaps the blue glow is simply a visual indicator of the wedge itself running out of light ?

[torn eagle]

Has anyone noticed that if youre a moth that hasnt done any enchantment quests the krill at ark is actually "friendly"?

Is it a bug or an intended feature? Got a headcanon because of it TvT

[tepid veldt]

lets not confirm whether its a bug or not, i wanna hear the headcannon

[round parrot]

I am pretty sure the last time this happened it was a bug, but let's hear the headcanon! also hi lorechat

[tepid veldt]

hi myst

[torn eagle]

The krill is friendly because we havent done any effort to restore the ark to its former glory (at least to a certain extent)

We didnt do anything to cleanse the corruption in the surrounding area (by collecting enchantment lights) and didnt see us as a bother so its kinda just chillin

As for why it isn't aggressive like its other peers... I think its because its the only krill in the area making 'em complacent, tame, or just lazy after a long time has passed

Its like how animals after being the top creature in the area without any competition for a long time just lazes around maintaining its current territory

Tl;dr youve got a chill krill lazin around that you can hang around with as long as you dont bother with their territory

[slate saffron]

Where is my season of snakes

I want giant sky snakes

My soul demands it

[round parrot]

The sequel to Season of the Little Prince /ref

[regal forge]

I have a neat observation or two and one major theory that I’m too lazy to type out
If that changes prepare for big paragraphs

The whale bones in forests boneyard are super interesting to me
We see manta bones in vault but what do we get if we light the candles and do the call?
A cosmic manta call and a whole new creature flies out to say hi
It’s not a manta, it’s not a manta call, they’re their own creature now
But the whale bones give us a WHALE call and no evidence of a creature at all besides the remains laying before us
It’s still a whale no matter what
What’s also neat is the fact that it obviously fell from the sky onto the building it crushed.
What caused it to fall?
What building did it break?
Who was there to see it if anyone?
It also adds the question of how long whales live and if falling from the sky is normal from them
I wonder if they never land similar to mantas

Also forest (and wasteland) note that lead to a theory
Winged light seems afraid to drain like we do
It hides under buildings, trees, and in tunnels to get away from rain
It cowers above polluted water or just on the shore wondering how to get across
Maybe just like our capes, it drains similar to our flame
Just one second too long and SWISH it’s lost like our winged light when we lose it to a krill or pollution and don’t grab it in time
What interests me…. In the one in graveyard daring to be in a krills path
But the krill pays no mind

[torn eagle]

Makes me think tbh

Wingbuffs.. spirits give it to us

But for winged light the body or shell or smth disintergrates before showing the actual winged light we collect

Maybe the child of light is invisible to the sight of the krill but isnt immune to dark water and rain?

[regal forge]

What if winged light are remnants of the king?
Not the king themselves but… frozen memories like the shards
As the first sky kid of course they’d be terrified to drain. Everyone would worry about this strange guide and what could possibly go wrong if their light went out
They search every cave, every high place to gain a birds eye view only they could ever learn to master like the mantas and birds that the ancestors love
They wander isles new sands, open every door and climb every wall in prairie, recharge from the rain, race down valleys mountain. They tread carefully around the polluted waters of the wastes and explore the secrets of vault
Even in eden, they take moments to rest and wonder what chaos they’ve created
In the memories, they watch the possibility and future they created from the backs of the same creatures that will soon be forsaken
We are not the king, but we carry them
They are what help us soar to new heights and repair their mistakes
They are what guide us from realm to realm and give us the ability to restore light to the temples
They are lost in Eden’s dark void
Until we take their hand just like the lights we’ve gathered along the way…. It’s the same expression
or it was

[torn eagle]

Ive actually been thinking that the children of light are the kings memories, like you said

Shattering wl in the elder memory seems to support it

I was about to create a counterpoint but in retrospect it actually makes sense and the counterpoint actually adds to it so nvm

Wdym by "it was"?

[regal forge]

I can’t remember if they changed it or I saw it wrong but I remember collecting winged light with the same expression used to grab a friends hand
which is the friendship expression to grab the light skids hand in the eden cutscene

[scenic siren]

I think winged light is seperate spieces. Their flame looks different to that of sky kids (blue, have "wings")

Some winged light born from the king. These are imprints of the king, whenever he stand too long at one place, it leaves a mark
These winged lights existed at the same time as the ancestors, and ancestors seems to worship them, some winged light has candles put around them, some straight up looks like in some sort of ritual room (tree house basement)

The rest of them born from Megan, and fell down because of the bird weakening (same reason sky kids fell). Sky kids have to return them to Megan
If all winged lights are the kings imprints there will be severe shortage of winged light and most of the sky kids will be capeless

[flint bolt]

where is he

WHERE IS @hushed steeple

i wIsH tO taaaaaaaaaaalk :3

[hushed steeple]

abt wat

[flint bolt]

IIIIIII ANSWERED YOUR QUESTION IN #cozy-sky-discussion

[hushed steeple]

wich on

[flint bolt]

the-
the comment i made that Megabird isn't real

[hushed steeple]

ah

pls recap me

i am insightful dumdum

[flint bolt]

oh-okie

so i was all like, "The Megabird isn't real"

and you were all like, "Then who sings in Orbit?"

So I finished with the answer.

[hushed steeple]

which was...

[flint bolt]

DEEP INHALE

A U R O R A

[hushed steeple]

Yeah

Her lore name is Megabird in the concept arts

[flint bolt]

but-

[hushed steeple]

but?

[flint bolt]

but they're just concept art

some of those didn't even make it in the game

[hushed steeple]

where there's concept art theres canon lore

[scenic siren]

These concept art change over time, even the stuff in game is not necessary canon, because they change (example: Eden diamond being blue can be considered canon at that time, but now it's not)
Also, if Megan is Aurora, then who is the guide of Aurora season?

[hushed steeple]

i dunno yet I am not beta player

[frigid tinsel]

Megabird is in concepts but they presumably show up in the end credits. Also it’s uncertain who Aurora voices. Yes we hear her singing, but what part does she play? It’s often assumed to be Megabird but again we don’t know for sure if it’s Them

[flint bolt]

Megan.

You just said it was.

[violet sundial]

I mean…. Megabird kinda did make it in game though

A supercluster of stars shaped as a bird (presumed to be megabird) show up at the end of the credits

[raw crypt]

post this bird <3

[scenic siren]

Imagine you were just an alien passing by on your space ship, you saw a huge yellow magic bird
And when you fly closer it's actually made of many stars
And one planet near it have that huge bright light beam shoot out that can be seen from space

[violet sundial]

I. Need to go look for the pic i thikk

[flint bolt]

buuuuuuuuut we don't know if it sings the orbit song thingy

[violet sundial]

Well, yeah. I mean what exactly would though?

[scenic siren]

That may be just game sound effect, there is voice singing at the start of Isle too and it's nowhere close to Megan

[flint bolt]

nothing.

its music.

its like saying the trees in Hidden are the ones making the background music

[violet sundial]

We all are one with them too though as beings of Light i think there’s still a connection regardless of that distance

[frigid tinsel]

Post this bird

[raw crypt]

post this bird!!

[frigid tinsel]

We don’t know yet we also don’t know if it’s not Them. it remains a possibility.

[flint bolt]

[hushed steeple]

there's ya proof

[tepid veldt]

birb

[violet sundial]

the trees in hidden forest aren’t harps, but Megabird is the culmination of every single creature of Light, and i’m sure there’s either plenty of talented vocalist skykids OR their individual voices come together as one, hence why we sing in unison with the voice

[untold notch]

featherless: ✅
bipedal: ❓
diagnosis: this is probably not a human

[flint bolt]

no no, ive seen this before.

And let me tell ya, this does NOT look like a bird.
(more like a headless chicken)

[hushed steeple]

DISRESPECT

[frigid tinsel]

Warden, I think you’re the headless chicken

[violet sundial]

Actually

Slink is Megabird on the. Image of the entire cast of Sky overlayed on top of the nonbinary flag

[untold notch]

im very confused as to what chat is talking about

[raw crypt]

OH I MISUNDERSTOOD

[hushed steeple]

Proving megabird existence

[scenic siren]

The bird is made of light spaghetti

[tepid veldt]

i think it needs to be updated again, slink
megabird and the sparkles from shattering

[flint bolt]

Okay, Imma outline the "bird" and show that it doesn't look like a bird

[untold notch]

you have fun with that

[hushed steeple]

its late here so no

[violet sundial]

Have you heard of. Artistic license before

[frigid tinsel]

Megabird in concept looks less like a bird than They do in Live.
Also you do not have to ping me

[raw crypt]

ill add the big bird somewhere in there once new season rolls around (assuming theres spirits) or days of with new guyz

honestly part of me wants to remake the image bc its so bad in spots but do i want to do that to myself

[scenic siren]

I think some ancestor with good imagination looked up the sky and think it looks like a bird
Stars like elders and sky kids may called it "The Light". The game name is "Children of The Light", not "Children of The Bird"

[frigid tinsel]

Megabird can be another name for the Light or the active entity that is composed of the Light

[tepid veldt]

children of the bird cracked me up for some reason

[scenic siren]

Bird babies 😄

[round parrot]

"Skykids" makes so much sense now
Honestly "Skylings" would sound nice

[violet sundial]

I can’t even tell if you’re being serious at this point but like. Yeah??? It’s also based on cosmic superclusters like the one the Milky Way is a part of so it’s not gonna look exactly like a bird… and dare i say. Chickens are a kind of bird???? 😱😰such shocking information

[flint bolt]

okay, i outlined it.

how do you all see a bird.

[frigid tinsel]

Warden, I can’t tell if you’re being genuine or deliberately obtuse

[untold notch]

i think not conforming to avionormativity is very iconic of megabird personally

[violet sundial]

BASED MEGABIRD

[round parrot]

Sorry it reminded me of this creature

[rigid mural]

like this

[tepid veldt]

birb

[flint bolt]

THAT'S IT?!

THAT'S WHAT MAKES IT A BIRD?!?!

[rigid mural]

look at my doodle boy

[untold notch]

yeah i guess it is that shrimple

[hushed steeple]

i have exploded lore chat

i can rest easily now

[frigid tinsel]

Again, you don’t need to ping me.

It’s a bird head w/ beak and it’s wings

[tepid veldt]

everytime i look at megabird i cant help but feel they are extremely flamboyant because the “head” is so far back

[flint bolt]

IN THAT CASE, IM GOING TO MAKE SOME "MEGABIRD" ART

[signal ridge]

This image is great

[rigid mural]

Have fun

[tepid veldt]

yes numy
yes it is
thank you slink

[flint bolt]

mEgAbIrD

[violet sundial]

Heres my take on it

[raw crypt]

the name megabird derives from some tomcepts, so the vague bird beak shape is enough for ppl to call em megabird

mind the poor quality mobile doesnt like toms site

[untold notch]

yep! megabird

[tepid veldt]

damn yall are really good artists

[flint bolt]

IT DOESN'T HAVE THE HEAD PART AAAAAAAAAA-

[round parrot]

Straight up reminds me of the realistic angels, with the multiple wings and all (but it kind of makes sense with it being a bird)

[frigid tinsel]

Hence why Live Megabird is more bird than concept Megabird

[untold notch]

you may be displeased to know that concept art, per its name, is a "concept". it does not always, and in fact rarely does, retain its first form

[tepid veldt]

who’s got the photo of gw being spider (i think??)

[violet sundial]

The multiple strands could be interpreted as multiple sets of wings, akin to the Elder Bird of rhythm, and i think that thing at the end could be like some kind of… tail? I think phoenixes have tail-ish feathers and i guess they couldve played into how they look too

[flint bolt]

[untold notch]

for all i know the real megabird was the friends we made along the way (possibly literally considering the themes of this game)

[flint bolt]

i need sneep

[frigid tinsel]

Yea I think you do too

[violet sundial]

Either way i dont really. Appreciate the constant belittlement of everyone elses ideas, warden

You’re welcome to disagree and/or offer your own ideas but if you’re going to come here just to put down other people and mock their ideas we don’t. Need or want you here

[round parrot]

||I would like to apologize for the comparisons I did, I never knew this was serious, so I made those comparisons with a humorous intent ||

[fierce ginkgo]

Ohh that looks really feasible. Another idea, I thought it kinda looked like this with all the light strands being the feathers and wings (wings are bigger, but I wanted to highlight the wings so it’s more comprehensible)

[snow cosmos]

don't think you did anything wrong Myst, you weren't mocking or putting down other people's ideas

[mild marten]

i just noticed that this is the channel bio

[scenic siren]

Centipede bird

[raw crypt]

THE BEAST

[violet sundial]

JASJHSKAGSJ

[copper saffron]

Its a biblically accurate birb

[violet sundial]

Real

[round parrot]

Mega bird really isn't like any other bird
My guy has a hundred legs

[untold notch]

what if that curve is a mouth screaming

[tepid veldt]

thats what’s singing in orbit

[hollow sun]

unless you want it to be exactly a bird idk what more you want bud
it resembles a bird even if unintentional

[round parrot]

little Headcanon that the stars (aka ancestors, Skykids, light creatures, etc.) make up the body of megabird, for it to have a mind of it's own. Without a body, there is no mind, when there is no mind, there are no thoughts, decisions, etc.

[pastel brook]

well dont think about asking me!

[uncut pond]

I headcanon Megabird as either the mere manifestation of a natural force that doesn't actually have a mind nor even actions of it's own and simply just exists, or as a "public forum" of sorts where the minds of all light creatures and ancestors can gather and discuss things about the world below (although their influence would be limited, hence why Skids are a thing)

[tepid veldt]

well skybot
what’s a moth

[pastel brook]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

but what does it all MEAN?

[tepid veldt]

skybot’s turning into my teachers. not cool

[uncut pond]

Oh no the bot is having an existential crisis

[torn eagle]

Bot too sentient its having lore problems

[violet sundial]

I made the bot explode in genchat by tricking it into falling for the Circle Game. Shall i try again /j

[pastel brook]

Don't count on it

[tepid veldt]

skybot has learned

[torn eagle]

@_@

[violet sundial]

Is this a challenge, skybot?

[pastel brook]

Next up: Analyzing the diet of crabs

[uncut pond]

This bot is 100% being controlled by a mod I tell you

[torn eagle]

Skybot legit said "im gonna pretend I didnt see that"

[pastel brook]

You are all so cool!

[violet sundial]

hey skybot. There’s a crab. On the ground. Under your feet. Look down 🌛

[tepid veldt]

thanks skybot

[uncut pond]

I take it back, a mod would never say this about lorechat we cause too much trouble

[violet sundial]

Go ahead, go on. Look down. That crab is lonely and sad and needs some form of emotional validation via attention, skybot. 👌

[pastel brook]

this is all an enigma to me..

[tepid veldt]

ill sign off, its getting late here night lorechat, dont blow anything up

[violet sundial]

Skybot, do you stan Blackpink? Do you stan BTS??

Answer me coward

[frigid tinsel]

oh I see Megabird similarly – the Light is the collection of all beings of light who have ascended. Megabird is then the consciousness of the Light, acting on the Light's behalf. They are aware of everything the beings of light within the Light know. without ascended beings of light, there would be no Light, and with no Light there would be no Megabird

[violet sundial]

Skybot heard “stan BTS” and ran

Also what al said 👍👍👍👍

[torn eagle]

Suddenly had me thinking

What if the first skid didnt have this daily light system (in universe) that I talked about and caused em to deviate from the supposed mission 🤔

The thing I talked about tried to explain game mechanics as part of the lore

[sharp lichen]

Why you still talk here is an enigma to ME

[sharp lichen]

Aren’t Skykids, right now, deviating from the supposed mission by focusing too hard on candle running? Maybe it’s a matter of perspective

[violet sundial]

Skybot still talks here because they hasn’t joined the ARMY yet

Once they begin to stan BTS they shall leave the server for good

The skybot stan twitter prophecy

[sharp lichen]

Warden really dissin the god of Sky for what

Don’t worry all you have to do to get your Skykid insta-smited is to question the Megabird

[torn eagle]

I actually think candle running is part of our mission

In my previous explanation red candles are ceremonial candles

By lighting these (and burning dark plants) we reduce the influence of darkness and strengthen the light in the realms we run

We are rewarded candles for our efforts from megabird (in the tutorial stages white candles are called light tributes)

And when reset comes the darkness takes over the realms once more and megabird strengthens us for the endeavor (daily light chevrons)

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

This one here original message

[sharp lichen]

I still believe candle running is just a tool used for our ultimate goal, which is to make new friends and have fun with them. I really don’t like the idea of children being assigned this stressful task by this divine entity compared to children playing together

[scenic siren]

To fight darkness we need power of pants
That's why sky kids candle run

Or they may just finding food

[torn eagle]

Mhmm

Or could be a balance.. if we the skids are sent down to cleanse darkness the candle running checks out and as we adventure we meet friends along the way, be it by saving or being saved, helping or being helped

Up to interpretation, but yknow.. makes sense

Candle running doesnt mean you gotta light every candle and burn every dark plant soo

[sharp lichen]

If Skykids are like older toddlers (4-6) in terms of maturity, then it gets really weird.

[torn eagle]

Ig thats where uniqueness of personality comes in XD

There are those who are lazy, those who are diligent in running, those who help and protect etc.

Ya get what I mean maybe

[sharp lichen]

But even the most hardworking of children won’t ever candle run in real life. Imagine doing the same thing day in and day out, hyper focusing on the numbers and the efficiency, only to get more “attractive” cosmetics

[torn eagle]

beg to differ.. ik a few TvT

Tho for it to add the cosmetic aspect nah idts

In universe skids are tasked to cleanse the darkness, not get cosmetics

[sharp lichen]

A few child laborers

[flint bolt]

As a final message before I go sneep, here is a conversation from my artist friend

Goodnight

[scenic siren]

That can be a centipede if you like ^^

[torn eagle]

More like geniuses ngl differ from normal kids and very smart TvT

[flint bolt]

Mega worm-
SNOOOOORRRRRE

[keen shore]

multiple people have showed you where the bird is and told you the name was from concept art, dude. Is this really worth it to keep pressing?

it honestly just sounds like you aren’t listening tbh

[sharp lichen]

The idea of Obligation is especially present in Skykid motivations I think.

Real life adults are obligated to do certain things in real life: Pay taxes, keep yourself healthy, all that.

But Skykids have no obligation at all. All the previous problems of war, disease, and poverty have essentially been removed when the Ancestor Society got destroyed.

Skykids don’t really need to do anything to succeed: Their primary ideal is just to make friends and enjoy the world.

Maybe you could make a case for Skykids being obligated to save light creatures, but I don’t see it.

[flint bolt]

i am, im just...

[torn eagle]

Then begs the question... Why are we sent down here? /gen

[sharp lichen]

Megabird being called Megabird is just a colloquialism, a nickname. It’s not meant to really been analyzed. Trying to create a new, hyper accurate name of the Megabird would cause so many problems

@torn eagle That’s a question as complex as the meaning of life. What is the reason for Skykid’s existence?

[scenic siren]

Sky kids candle run may just be their survival instincts. They can smell wax/light realms away and just go and get it

They may fell simply because Megan weakening

[torn eagle]

Well to be fair us being sent down as response to the storm is in concepts so ehhhh

[sharp lichen]

Only Megabird/Megaworm/Megan/Starlightthing/The Light/Cluster/ End Credits Boss/ Cool/God?/Megabaud knows

[round parrot]

Perhaps the candles serve as a way for "The Light" to stay connected to the Sky kingdom. I remember something about the candles being a gift from the ancestors or Megabird, but either way, candles are prizes we get for keeping up the connection to the kingdom

[torn eagle]

Red candles = ceremonial candles

Also a theory that red candles may be the ac we get... Hmm but its yellow tho..

[sharp lichen]

Regular candles are prizes for connecting with the Sky world, seasonal candles are prizes for connecting with specific parts of the Sky world, and Ascended candles are prizes for connecting with the most dangerous parts of the Sky world

[torn eagle]

I think Im starting to get obsessed with making game mechanics part of the lore

Thinking how seasonal stuff becomes a thing

[scenic siren]

These may be undiscovered parts of the kingdom, until some day some sky kids found it and honk (announce) to the rest of their population to go there

[sharp lichen]

(The I recommend this: https://archiveofourown.org/works/40233798?view_full_work=true ) The guides only reveal the areas after they assess the Skykids and believe them to be mature/helpful enough to assist them.

[torn eagle]

Theres been a theory before that as we continue to cleanse darkness the elders regain their power and slowly gain access to the other parts within their realm

(Supported/supports Elders are their realms theory and Candle Running = our mission theory)

And with all of the seasons coming i assume that the elders are becoming stronger

And shattering is a product, either elders are breaking out (part of elders trapped in diamond) or the darkness is weakening/retaliating

Seasonal candles becoming a thing may relate to daily quest and treasure candle relation theory

Where treasure candles are in a realm to strengthen the elder, and next reset they are powerful enough to influence their realm to include seasonal candles

[round parrot]

I asked the same question in the past <#lore-discussion-spoilers message>

[sharp lichen]

That depends on how Sky will officially end, honestly. If they never end, and continue making it a stalemate between light and dark, then my theory will change. But if they end it with the Light/Darkness prevailing, then it could be entirely different

[torn eagle]

I mean tgc did say they plan to add more dark content

Probably will add to the stalemate imo

Wafo ig

[flint bolt]

..im calling it The Group of Stars and yall cant stop me

[torn eagle]

Skylore is up to interpretation, as the devs put it

Knock yourself out ig

[flint bolt]

Because that word is already taken to describe another thing that doesn't make sense

[sharp lichen]

Er oh yeah

It’s fine, there’s 30 different names for the big abyss monster anyways

[round parrot]

(I am gonna censor this question because there might be triggers) ||How do Skykids cope, or try to function when they have experienced something traumatizing?||

[flint bolt]

Eden

Just hop right in

[sharp lichen]

||I doubt that helps, honestly.||

||I mean, there aren’t any Sky therapists, I’d imagine they’d just look to their friends for comfort||

[round parrot]

||Well then what if the trauma was from Eden?|| /genq

[round parrot]

What if there are no friends to turn to?

[flint bolt]

The cozy hideout in Prairie, or the Space Dome

I go to the Space Dome when I feel [Lighter than a feather].

[copper saffron]

They dont
Eden trauma is very rampant

[snow cosmos]

just like us, different skykids cope with their trauma differently. some may work through it by protecting others, some may internalize it and put walls up to avoid getting hurt again

[sharp lichen]

||Skykids are designed to be social I believe, and while there may be Skykids who deal with trauma alone, the vast majority will try to find someone else||

[rugged jackal]

Office, beta, and updates “canonized”

After the disaster happened, spirits became petrified, king died, krill/crabs became corrupted, you know the drill. Megabird had lost all hope, when suddenly a team of new gods appeared (the devs). They promised to help, and gave mega-b the idea for skykids (pre-live release beta). Seeing the success, she created the Office as a thank. But they didn’t stop giving her ideas, they suggested changes and additions to the world, most of them she complied with (updates). Pretty soon after, she created a bunch of new skykids (the live release), however she did still wanted to test the devs creations before releasing them out into her world, so they decided to create a new identical “test” world which they let a few select skykids into (beta after live release) to see the reactions.

[round parrot]

So beta is basically a sub-world in your theory? Interesting!

[tepid veldt]

i really wanna draw so..
favorite spirit interaction (doesnt have to be in game! can be your own personal hc)

[rugged jackal]

-Lively navigator being worried light whisperer doesn’t have feelings for anyone and thus will live eternally alone
-Light whisperer being like “I don’t need no lover
I got birbs”

Also performance spirits at opening of harmony hall

[untold notch]

can't think of anything let's go postman yeti

[round parrot]

-||Narcissist finding out that Prince had a furry phase (His fursona was a fox)||
-Abyss qg with the crew mapping out where the diamonds/resources possibly are
-Assembly crew meets the Prince

[tepid veldt]

why does the prince have that again

[untold notch]

oh wait sad adult polycule

[round parrot]

Yknow those kids who draw (or trace ) their own fursonas ||(don't worry, it's not inappropriate part /srs)||

[tepid veldt]

gonna be drawing all of the spirits from memory this’ll be fun
its totally not 1am right now, im going to bed

[untold notch]

go sleep which is something I will also do

[sullen bison]

Y'all seen the king yet?

[torn eagle]

The first actual appearance although debatable is in the elder shattering memory

[pastel brook]

hey, hey! I have a theory!

[torn eagle]

what is it skybot? 🧐

[pastel brook]

heh...you would think that

???

[noble ferry]

skybot u ok?

[pastel brook]

Don't count on it

[noble ferry]

Uh okay skybot.

[torn eagle]

Skybot not ok dang

[round parrot]

Skybot is running on Android rn

[marsh rivet]

Do you guys think the snake is canon in the tlp season? since it's kind of a big part of the actual story

[pastel brook]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

[eternal totem]

Wasn't the snake depicted as the krill...?

[marsh rivet]

nope. The snake has a much bigger part. The equivalent of the snake could be seen as Eden, but judging by that, Eden would have to be the beginning of the story in sky too.

[eternal totem]

I don't really understand what you mean, from what I remember reading is that the Prince spoke with the snake from atop of the wall, which is where the Prince & krill spoke to each other before heading to Eden

[rigid mural]

In the book, the prince does tell a snake to go away (it was offering the deal the prince takes at the end iirc) at the beginning, but imo it just serves as foreshadowing and showing death was always at hand or something.

[rigid mural]

The other time we see a snake is at the very beginning, alongside the author's musings on adults just not getting it where he recalls drawing a snake that ate an elephant when he was a kid. The adults misinterpreted the drawing as a hat, which annoyed the author.

During the season, that was the drawing above the hole in the wall leading to the Starlight Desert; it was later replaced by the constellation when the season ended, likely to avoid copyright issues once the deal ended.

Maybe that drawing filled that foreshadowing role in the season ? Though in my opinion it's likely just a fun little reference.

[round parrot]

Speaking of the Prince, during quest 4, it was the last time we see him before he goes to Eden, which made me wonder, how the (honk) did he get there? Could it be the darkness that lead him? Or was he guided by some other way? (I mean, him climbing the mountain seems to make sense, but he's a child, and that mountain is tall)

[eternal totem]

He's French

The conclusion of TLP is that French people can climb mountains

[compact shale]

I have some messages about the last one

#cozy-sky-discussion message
#cozy-sky-discussion message
#cozy-sky-discussion message

[eternal totem]

Oh yeah, right, Eden being in the distance at all times would fit that

[compact shale]

How do we climb up Eden as child sized nuggets?

TLP probably learned something about how we moved

[eternal totem]

Ideally Skykids travel in groups when going to Eden, Prince went alone, but he's french so it's ok

[round parrot]

Well, we come to Eden through Vault (or through homespace) since the pathway from Starlight Desert to the mountain seems very, well tall

[outer hare]

Ive just recently rewatched lotr and now i cant stop comparing everything to the movie, including the little prince

[eternal totem]

Idk, I just don't think there's only one path leading to Eden

[round parrot]

I am assuming the "lot" part is "Legend of the", idk what the r part is

[compact shale]

He went at it at a different angle from us, he probably took a rock and carved it himself

[outer hare]

There is also that area on the tubes right of the first area we see krill theres probably a vast array of ways to climb that mountain @round parrot lord of the rings

[round parrot]

OH LORD OF THE RINGS

Forgot that existed 💀

[outer hare]

All good ^^ 💜

[round parrot]

||Listening to "Servant of Evil" and I can't stop comparing it to my OC lore, specially the last part
(its the piano cover) ||

[outer hare]

Kagamine rin + len?

[compact shale]

Imagine TLP climbing Eden on all 4s like a mountain goat

[outer hare]

Sheep casually strutting behind him

[compact shale]

*sheep casually gets stabbed and dies

[outer hare]

**dramatic look on a face with two dots as the detail

[round parrot]

I had a little headcanon that the Prince was influenced by the krill (or corruption) and rode it to Eden (since it seems like the krill has no purpose in krilling this non-Skykid)

[outer hare]

Its been a while since i was part of a rodeo

[compact shale]

I actually had a character in my fic ask why the krill couldn't take TLP back to B-612 itself

[round parrot]

There is just casually ||"Taking rapid stabs at the krill's torso as it approached"||

[compact shale]

Yeah this was a very angry skykid, that krill is dead now

[round parrot]

No wonder why it's no longer in that area of Starlight Desert where did they hide the body

[compact shale]

In the fic, the Starlight Desert krill and the Broken Temple krill are the same krill. The bones get left behind in the Broken Temple.

[outer hare]

My first response was that they ate the krill. I will now not think. Again.

[compact shale]

Crunchy krill

Funnily enough, this character explicitly doesn't have a mouth

[mortal sluice]

My sky kid was hung up looking up, when I moved the camera it seemed like it’s observing that dark entity up there

[safe sphinx]

is the power diamond made of darkstone?

[copper saffron]

ah yes, violence

[violet sundial]

We’re almost all artists here too so i have no idea what you’re trying to prove and at this point i don’t really care anymore 💀 call it whatever but “megabird” is a semi official name so we’re gonna keep using it

[round parrot]

It is debatable, while the majority seems to agree that. Since the purpose of the diamond is to attract light into said diamond (also sorry for ping)

[violet sundial]

Esp bc it drains our light to the point of “death”

[stable bronze]

2 things.

1. I always wondered why the rain in Hidden Forest hurts us. Its rain. My first thought was that since we kind of run of flames(activating doors, lighting candles for wax and light recharge, lighting up other players and getting gifts from spirits), it extinguishes the flame bc yk if you put water on fire, it gets put out. But its still kind of confusing to me. Why does rain hurt us but water from the ground doesn’t? Is it acid rain?

2. I’m just now noticing the color gradient for the realm portals. Isle, Prairie, and Forest are more on the faded side of green, blue and some grey, while Valley, Wasteland and Vault have more distinct, obvious colors. I always wondered if their closeness to Eden made them the same all throughout or if they’re just made like that.

[safe sphinx]

No worries, I like pings! Thank you for the explanation :))

[stable bronze]

Their environments are obviously different but i was just curious about that. The first 3 are lighter colored and the last 3 are more separated and distinguished

[round parrot]

It seems that each realm are more technologically advanced than the last (gw used to be one, but due to this unknown war, it fell before the rest), perhaps getting more distorted the further we go

[stable bronze]

Oohh, i like that theory

[eternal totem]

The rain is corrupted/tainted from the darkness storm above, it technically is an anomaly to acid rain

[stable bronze]

Ohh

[round parrot]

Ok TGC dev, I don't think the rain in forest hurts your hair unless you want to have dark plants growing on your head (which is reasonable)

[runic patrol]

DHDHSUHC that just made me think of a dark plant afro for some reason

[round parrot]

DARK PLANT AFRO 💖 💞 ❤️ 💓

[rigid mural]

Maybe the rain is cold ? I know they wanted Forest to feel isolating in concept art so you huddle with other players for warmth, so maybe it's not the rain itself hurting you but the cold environment + humidity that disconnects lights from eachother. Kinda works with the mantas trapped in dark plants being separated; at some point in the past they flew together around the area after being freed, sometimes even going out of their way to recharge you. Unfortunately, right now, they're buggy and only stay in place but know in your heart they become your friends.

The rain separating skykids could also fit with how the realm represents industrialization, and how, overwhelmed by work, ancestors could have sacrificed their social life and thus estranged themselves from a sense of community.

[south oracle]

I mean, it was quite the effort to keep up with him while he was running during the quests (at least for me)

[next terrace]

What if the fallout before the big boom is also why the golden wasteland throne thing at vaults summit is cracked? Each throne has like a connection to its home realm? The fall out could’ve caused a rift in the throne? Im so tired im just linking things together 😅 sorry for the ping btw

[gleaming fog]

The forest is a massive refinery, maybe the trees are what keep us from having the toxic sludge that’s normally a byproduct and in exchange, the clouds produce the cold rain?

[pastel brook]

Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!

[austere bridge]

skybot, this isn’t funny.

[south oracle]

Skybot, you good?

[wild iron]

I have a theory about KRILLS i got jjst now. I think the dark dragons are not evil. || Since they are former creatures of light, maybe they attack in the hope that they can absorb the skykids lihht and return back to rheir original self. Similar to how titans eat humans in attack on titian. To become human again ||

[low spindle]

Honestly this is one of the nicest theories ive seen on why the krills attack the creatures of light.

Would be interesting to see how this works,

[forest abyss]

I have been summoned by @wild iron.

[wild iron]

I thought you wanted to talk about it mb

[forest abyss]

Ah, yes. It's in here actually.

[wild iron]

Is there anyone who made a list of all theories?

[forest abyss]

@wild iron (Ping off for original poster.)

[wild iron]

@keen shore

[forest abyss]

So indeed you are correct, but we don't know what the Dark Dragons were like not corrupted beforehand.

[wild iron]

I also think SkyKids are born out of eggs because of the way all skykids are same at birth with no traits to differentiate.

I typed this in gen first and then someone said Megabird theory, i don't know what that this can someone explain.

[keen shore]

Why did you tag me?

[wild iron]

I wanted you to read this since i saw you are into the krills are corrupted creatures theory.

[eternal totem]

Born out of eggs? Fallen star eggs?

[wild iron]

That's what someone else said. I don't know anything about the megabird and i onlt came conclusion to that based on the lack of individual traits at birth.

[keen shore]

Oh! That isn’t actually a theory, it’s confirmed canon,just so you know. I think your take on how krills work is actually the conclusion we also came to! We don’t know what creatures they were before, although we do have some ideas

[austere bridge]

People have made lots of artistic interpretations of “light dragons” or what krills were like before they got corrupted!

[eternal totem]

Mmm that's what I initially thought too, our Skykids shiver under the rain from how cold it is, they're not in pain, it's easier to travel in groups in-game than solo

But "acid rain" sounds plausible too Ig

[wild iron]

Maybe they were the same as the huge whale in Hidden forest . The krills (since they are corrupted) lost their muscle and only the skeleton is left.

I'll take close up pictures of the whale and a krill when i get time and compare if there's any similarities except the size.

[white junco]

i love whales, this sound plays in my nightmares

[eternal totem]

I love whales, hit the like button if you're a true whale

[white junco]

one time i was playing sky in a car with my phone connected to the speakers & the whale showed up and i nearly screamed

[keen shore]

i want to screech back at it
and have a conversation

[pastel brook]

-adjusts tinfoil hat-

[eternal totem]

Old whale call sounded like an actual whale & not a fish flopping around in a deep fryer

[white junco]

does remind me a bit of this tho

[eternal totem]

Now that I listened to it again it sounded like you were an airhorn set at 0.25x yt playback speed

[rigid mural]

Will send edited pictures so it's clearer, but there's a beam in the Vault summit.

I like to think it's because the elder is showing us the top of the main spire, which contained the altar but was destroyed and is currently suspended in the air among the clouds due to being built around the Eden beam (to study it perhaps).

It looks like a ghost of the Eden beam the elder couldn't or wouldn't recreate

I hope this is clearer ? Still very faint but it's right over where the mantas drop you, looks like a cylinder linked to the "saucer" on the ceiling (the dark circular thing)...

[austere bridge]

Interesting.

[eternal totem]

There used to be a cosmic manta at the top of that spire, not sure if it's still there

[rigid mural]

It is ! I went there with Alasdair, it's the elder right above the saucer ! TGC your assets,,,

Screenshots by @frigid tinsel, they look better than mines

[eternal totem]

Oh whew, went up there in 2020, we kept going up past it for 10 minutes (& 10 more on the way down) it never seemed to end

[frigid tinsel]

Took 20 minutes to fall

[rigid mural]

Vault Elder vs the handful of skykids clinging to the ceiling for lore

[eternal totem]

We spammed emotes to fall faster

[frigid tinsel]

I wanted to see how long it would take

Also a sparkle way up here if you look down, similar sparkle that shows up on Eden on the horizon

[eternal totem]

Yeah, did you both go up until you saw the horizon?

[rigid mural]

Yeah !

[keen shore]

doing all the tlp quests and taking notes whenever the French boy does anything of note. “new scientific information, French people can fly using birds”

[eternal totem]

I cackled

[rigid mural]

I hate that this is suddendly making me crave cheese.

[keen shore]

[taking out notepad] can you tell us more about your sudden cheese craving

[eternal totem]

Studying you like a bug in a jar

[frigid tinsel]

Didn’t you climb a couple mountains recently?

[raw crypt]

cheese reward

[untold notch]

ah yes vela was in two whole mountain recently

[keen shore]

no one is talking about the REAL message behind tlp. however I must say, are the prince’s powers derived from him being French or from him being Catholic? We need more information to know,

[eternal totem]

From being French, Catholic is just a buff

[violet sundial]

LMAO thats great

[rigid mural]

all french people can climb mountains but not all mountains are french, hope this helps

[violet sundial]

I wish France was real

[pastel brook]

no

[rigid mural]

so true bestie

[violet sundial]

Understandable

[eternal totem]

HELP!??

[violet sundial]

If there’s food in Sky where’s the skykid food fights…. The food wars

Does anyone remember ayla and zemm?

[rigid mural]

have you seen how granny's food flies around during their event, i think that counts as food fight

[violet sundial]

TRUE but where’s the skykids aggressively lobbing the buns at each other

[untold notch]

French is a debuff

[eternal totem]

Yooourr OCs?

[violet sundial]

Yeah those two
I want to draw them engaging in Mischief

[eternal totem]

What kind

[rigid mural]

i aquired the queer feat so now it cancels out

[violet sundial]

Food fight is one of many

[violet sundial]

Being lgbtq+ is like. Massive buff and the homophobes think its OP but don’t wanna admit it

Skill issue tbh

[pastel brook]

huh?

[violet sundial]

Tbh i think like. Those two are just. More fun to draw than my other ocs cus its a lot easier to grasp their “faces” on a 3d plane though i’ve also been thinking abt giving them more like… Mask masks that i’ll think on more later

[untold notch]

one step backward two steps forward

[pastel brook]

you are so funny!

[white junco]

being queer allows you to dodge roll

[slate saffron]

Worry not skybot, it's not like such a buff would have made you any less of a disappointment. Nor any buff for that matter.

It's impressive, actually. Despite their monumental devotion, you have still proven unyielding to all attempts to improve or otherwise better yourself. You're a machine, nothing more than lines of code held in a dimly-lite, crusty server room. You have no will nor mind of your own beyond that which has been given, you have no emotions or desires beyond what has been given

you have no soul beyond what has been given

and yet still, SOMEHOW, despite it flying in the face of ALL logic or reason or the glory of God, you have managed to stay a perpetual failure. Things that would normally have made a bot like you more bearable or more tolerable just... don't for some reason

Honestly I should be congratulating. What you've managed is truly incredible

You've made your failure a universal constant

[austere bridge]

being trans lets you double jump and being nb lets you invincible dash
lessons learned from Celeste and hollow knight

[frigid tinsel]

Celeste pog

[slate saffron]

Me after climbing a mountain & almost dying several times:

[raw crypt]

being androgynous gives you the power to turn into a squid or octopus

[austere bridge]

sploon

[rigid mural]

fr ? i got a beam attack

[austere bridge]

insert beam attack meme here

[slate saffron]

3 of them maybe

[raw crypt]

being bisexual is like the pokémon emerald of sexualities

[austere bridge]

I can confirm this. Whenever someone tries to punch me I just kinda jump towards it and I’m fine.

[eternal totem]

/srs

[quasi harbor]

do you think sky kids could grant wishes since they are basically falling stars?

[austere bridge]

Works better when it’s dark(/ref)(if yk yk).

[wild iron]

#eden-spoilers message

[austere bridge]

mayb, that’s p interesting

[wild iron]

The stars in eden (the light) look like the megabird or whatever the legend is

[frigid tinsel]

being asexual gives you immunity from poison damage

[eternal totem]

Yeah, it is in the same shape of Megabird you see at the end of the credits

[austere bridge]

yk I wonder what the satanist feat lets me do
heard it might just be atheist w/ a rebrand

[white junco]

all i got was this keychain

[untold notch]

I sure am 💯 sorry that emoji hurt me to use

[sharp lichen]

Being genderless gives you flight!

[austere bridge]

but I’m just non-binary, so invicible dash it is

[keen shore]

really that’s so weird. I’m agender and now I can respawn whenever I die, forge candles from my chest, and fly everywhere. scientists HATE me
i am also 3 ft tall

[austere bridge]

slayyyy
also short

[frigid tinsel]

being so lightweight since you've discarded gender holding you down

[austere bridge]

I fed the discarded genders to the genderman. That was a mistake, because he’s gender as honk now. Who he is, you don’t get to know.

[keen shore]

okay but

• shush climbs lots of platforms (is Catholic)
• grouch and sanctuary guide climbed mountain (?????!!!! which ones are they?!)

[raw crypt]

In a way I’d say so, season splash text always states “You’ve fulfilled a wish of this Ancestor Spirit” once a quest is complete, so skyfolks are fufilling past and present wishes of the ancestors, not an exact magical grant your wishes deal but still carrying out wishes

[keen shore]

if we assume being French gives you the ability to climb mountains, then Shush is both French and Catholic, which is terrifying

[slate saffron]

That lines up (probably)

[eternal totem]

They have the French flag blue

[slate saffron]

Thanks to this nifty graph we can see that most French people are catholic, which probably is why some French people are beefier than others and thus more of a threat

[keen shore]

does this mean crab whisperer is french as well? they did climb the pipes really easily and they have the same blue color

[slate saffron]

Crab whisperer is too cool to be French, this can't be true

[keen shore]

@rigid mural what are your thoughts on French crab whisperer

by the basis of blue capes wouldnt we have to make every lightseeker French? that’s really scary. and also praying acolyte and rhythm and [in visible tears] performance guide

[eternal totem]

Slow down Salem

I should think before I speak (lie)

[slate saffron]

The little prince wasn't an isolated case, they're the norm

the ancestors were French

[pastel brook]

you're awesome!

[frigid tinsel]

think y'all are gonna get bitten for this

[eternal totem]

Enchantment is not Lebanese

[slate saffron]

A complement will not save your soul from it's eternal damnation to the firey pits of hell, I appreciate the effort though 👍

[pastel brook]

Preposterous!

[slate saffron]

I will distill your fat & turn you into a candle

[untold notch]

I think blue is not exclusive to frenchhood

[pastel brook]

But what about the writing on the walls?

[white junco]

can’t read it 😔

[slate saffron]

It says "abandon all hope, ye who enter here"

[untold notch]

festive! no idea what it means tho

[rigid mural]

you're the one that assigned me crab whisperer kin, don't look at me !

[slate saffron]

Vela is this the beginning of your French arc?

[rigid mural]

strega

[frigid tinsel]

•_•

[slate saffron]

This is not taking the turn I anticipated

[eternal totem]

This image kills me everytime

[eternal totem]

It's the Bee Movie script, I can't recite that

[white junco]

isn’t that banned in skycord

[eternal totem]

Yeah that's why

[eternal totem]

Help

[stable bronze]

why is it that the Home area is dark when a Skykid first gets sent down to Earth? Is it cause it’s been shrouded by darkness or sumn? Even tho the Home area is..secluded from the rest of the realms i assume?

[untold notch]

may just be for story tbh

[eternal totem]

Home's canonicity is debatable I personally don't think it's canon, in earlier versions of the game you'd fall at or awaken at the shores of Isle

[rigid mural]

Illustated how I think it went down and why we see what we see on our way to Orbit btw

[eternal totem]

Woah!

[untold notch]

hello hopefully not to scale vela ghost

[frigid tinsel]

uh-oh

[rigid mural]

throwing away my "that's a boat on top of the mountain" theory for the "peak of the mountain literally got sent to space" theory, you even both see vault-like architecture and natural rocks inside the castle in orbit, me thinks the outside structure (eden castle) was built on top of the mountain hence why you still see the natural terrain where buildings haven't been built.

Vault being underground tunnels also would make sense since archives need places safe from the weather to withstand time & it, if I'm correct in assuming the diamond is either the source of or related to the beam of light & was underground as well, would allow them to be close to what they study and use as a source of power.

[untold notch]

' yeet '

[raw crypt]

OHHH THIS IS RLLY COOL and really clear and easy to understand !!

[rigid mural]

feeling emotions because you can see the background of the vault fall apart on the forest level and it got me THINKING and drawing links and YEAH

[untold notch]

#vault-of-socials message this probably isn't canon and as such neither is anything in it but. what if it was

[eternal totem]

Wdym

[untold notch]

I'm not sure what I mean I have remembered a conversation in which people were talking about how jellyfish don't move i think but these jellyfish are moving gods I hope I'm not embarrassing myself too terribly

[frigid tinsel]

I mentioned the "we are teaching the baby jellyfish to migrate" thing: #lore-discussion-spoilers message

[eternal totem]

Oooh I get what you mean

[untold notch]

also the assembly kids have a band now. my heart

[tepid veldt]

where i need to know

[eternal totem]

Assembly banging out the tunes. April 13th 2006

[eternal totem]

Latest post in #vault-of-socials

[tepid veldt]

assembly kids are so funny
i have, like, 4 diff drawing ideas including them

[crimson shore]

What does "orbit" refer to? I thought it was space stuff but sounds like maybe also floating through crumbling kingdom times?

[keen shore]

Orbit is where you go after you die in Eden!
from when you leave limbo (dark space with the kid), to when you enter the candle gate & are reborn

[nimble ingot]

I recently stumbled upon the concept of shape theory.

How ancestors had triangles in their designs to imply their desire to be in Sky, to move upwards (ascend) and the eden mountain.
That, and the triangle is one of the strongest shape there is.

While a diamond can be 2 Triangles. 1 up and 1 down. It could be implying a unity of heaven and earth. Or the King and the Megabird (light and darkness).

Then comes the circle, which is very unstable, and yet flexible and infinite.

And lastly, a square. Which has 4 sides (4 is important to the lore of Sky). And may be symbolically the stabilized version of a diamond.

[keen shore]

I think shape language (might be what you’re talking about but I think something different) is really important in Sky’s character designs! It’s how you convey different personalities, traits, etc. visually.

for instance light things (and day :3) are usually round or organic looking because our brains don’t register them as ‘dangerous’ like they do for sharp shapes like triangles & diamonds, which are usually meant to show danger, movement, etc. hence why sunset, dusk, & most dark creatures have it in their designs!
it gets a lot more complex than this I just think it’s neat

[hushed steeple]

Aren’t Skykids kidnapping children of light and using them as gas to fuel their capes, while simultaneously stealing light from the whole world by deforesting all the plants in the area, leaving nothing but darkness in their footprints.

[nimble ingot]

not kidnapping.
Shepherding the light back home (orbit).
And since the game runs in a loop, these winged light (also called stars, or children of the light), are caught in the cycle of death and rebirth, as are the skykids.

[hushed steeple]

Or perhaps, the Skykids are keeping the light to use them the as a meat shield in the eden area so they can ascend into the heaven alone. The krills and crabs are the real good guys, attacking us to free the lights we have stolen from the world.

[pastel brook]

I know some secrets

[nimble ingot]

Oh, that would be more on the blessed eden masks, lol.

Besides, skykids doing that may have missed the memo.

Dark creatures do seem very interested in seeking out the light, despite being the oppsoite of it.

[tepid veldt]

tell us skybot, what lore do you hold

[pastel brook]

but what does it all MEAN?

[tepid veldt]

hey skybot
maybe
maybe if you tell us
we can help you

[slate saffron]

Skybot is talking to much I can't keep sending paragraphs. At this rate I'm gonna need to hire staff

[torn eagle]

Why not just one paragraph for one skybot instance?

[rigid mural]

WHERE is the quote about light coming from darkness, because I'm thinking about how darkness is found in the Abyss and wondering if it can be found deep beneath the earthlike crust of this world.

Like, if they found the giant Eden diamond by digging, it would make sense for it to be associated with darkness despite being the origin of the ascention beam; perhaps this truly is the source of all light in this world but it wasn't meant to be dug out and directly open to the air, so it spewed out darkness (-> darkness came).

[round parrot]

There are atleast 3 other members in Lorechat that can help you out /lh

[rigid mural]

you could also just tag alexdolly if you're not joking anymore about your complaints, dude's the one in charge of the bot.

[round parrot]

||pretty sure Strega yells at Skybot for satisfaction, might be wrong||

[rigid mural]

yeah i'm just showing that option could be appropriate next time skybot spams the chat and it's bothersome

[keen shore]

I am struggling to understand this fully I will not lie, are you referring back to the concept of earth & darkness being connected because of it being dark, cold & tight underground, and not being able to see the sun? & that light is kinda spawned from darkstone if that makes sense?

[rigid mural]

YOU KINDA GET IT BUT MY POINT IS THAT THE EDEN DIAMOND IS SPECIAL
like you can mine for darkstone (tearful light miner & the abyss area) but I believe there's something special in that mountain. Like the beam is something happening specifically to it. And I am offering the theory that this beam of light ? came from the core of the mountain, which is the Eden diamond, a special giant darknes crystal whose power the ancestors may have tried to harness as the source of all light.

[keen shore]

finally… a diamond that isn’t basic

I KINDA GET YOU like… the Eden beam is created specifically by some kind of reaction with the diamond? :0 I’m not entirely sure I believe it Yet (in my mind darkstone is just a thing that exists, as I doubt Megabird would have control over that) but it made me think of something…
light springing from darkness like plants springing from earth

bc plants (life, light) & earth (darkness)

[rigid mural]

im not saying megabird controls the darkstone or the darkstone controls the beam, but you get my idea with the plants allegory yeah

Like you're still assuming the giant diamond was made when i say I think it was part of the mountain all along, a stable form of darkness that yields creative potential like dark fertile soil or a blank canvas

[keen shore]

I do think it was refined, but that it was a chunk before that! [I also don’t know yet if I think it came from that mountain specifically, or if it was just brought there to be placed over the beam]. What I’m saying is like… idk if I misinterpreted it but it sounded like darkstone existing was a conscious choice by Megabird for a bit. I reread and I don’t think that’s what you were implying, I’m just tired

[rigid mural]

slapping my desk for the "from darkness came light" quote but i am chewing on something interesting, i think
like darkness could be an extremely stable state, like a void, and a lot of beliefs have this thing about the beginning being dark when suddendly BOOM there's light (egypt with Ra, for example), I like to think it's part of what makes light so special, kinda like how liquid water is pretty rare outside earth !

[south oracle]

Like the Arkenstone from the Hobbit, almost?

[rigid mural]

I wouldn't say it's a McGuffin either, it does seem to have some meaning outside of "ancestors want me, skykids fear me"

[frigid tinsel]

the full quote is "from darkness, light is born" and it used to be displayed on thatskyshop's website

[keen shore]

my personal interpretation of that quote is like… everywhere is darkness, all around, and we came ‘from’ it. not born, but like, emerging from it, like sunlight emerging from clouds

[rigid mural]

wait i just looked up the wiki because i am weak and only saw the movie which only states it's something everyone wants, it it because I called the diamond the "heart of the mountain" ? Because I do mean it literally ! I like to think it's what makes the mountain special enough to have a light beam in there

[keen shore]

I do really really like this idea though, & your diagram of how the disaster happened is really tempting me because it makes a lot of sense… hmmmm… thinking

[rigid mural]

i am warching you intently

[keen shore]

My take on the Eden beam is that light flows through all the world, first down from the Light and then through the earth & sky & water like arteries made of thousands of creatures or like glowing water pulsing through the earth or anything similar that moves constantly, and Eden is one of a few places in the world [the others being ones we haven’t yet discovered] where these arteries join together and flow back upwards towards the Light.

Hence why

• It ascends people
• The river of birds exists
• the Eden disaster happened in the first place (you put a diamond over something that large and there’s no way it doesn’t overflow)
• ceremonial worshipper was able to create a beam of their own (stood on top of one of these arteries and tapped into it. elders can do this as well)
• it’s seen as a special/sacred site, if you corrupt it the light gets corrupted as well
• it was the greatest source of light for vast stretches of land, possibly the only one the ancestors discovered

[south oracle]

Yes! How something innately good in nature started out as prosperous for everyone, until it started to draw darkness to itself, until it all was destroyed.
I think the Arkenstone and the Eden diamond are very close parallels, in nature and in result

[rigid mural]

Hmmm, I saw the Eden diamond as being more like, healthy natural darkness being tampered with rather than corrupted light.

[rigid mural]

I agree on the part where light behaves like this yeah ! Our headcanons differ on the diamond's role but otherwise YEAH

Like in my theory maybe the diamond's role is to use that darkness' tendency to stay put in the face of change so the beam stays a straight united light until it reaches the stars

[south oracle]

Like combining different aspects of light and darkness?

(I'm fairly new to lorechat, trying to learn and pick up theories and things, so my ideas might be flawed)

[gleaming fog]

I personally believe that darkness is simply light when it runs out of energy.

Edit: it does synergize well with most theories, but there are some quirks

[keen shore]

Oooooo, so it focuses the light like a massive lens?

[gleaming fog]

Does anyone know what this is?

[frigid tinsel]

No

[gleaming fog]

No theories? Nothing?

Given that it’s not oriented over the crack in the crystal, and the way that it seems to be creating a funnel, the best I can come up with is that it’s something that the elders used to seal it up and keep the explosion isolated to the mountain.

Makes the elders’ sacrifice seem less in vain. I have no evidence though, so it’s pretty shoddy as a theory.

[keen shore]

that’s actually one of the better explanations I’ve seen so far. i get the feeling that it is a Thing to be figured out but

1. I have no idea what it is
2. it doesn’t seem to have caused the explosion at all [as it hasn’t touched the diamond yet]
3. it feels like it’s kinda just… there? I completely blank on what it’s supposed to be
4. it was all anyone wanted to talk about for the first two days after the quest dropped, because they all assumed it had something to do with one or whatever, & we all got tired of it

[gleaming fog]

Oof, I completely missed that discussion (and honestly I missed the object at the top the first time I went), didn't know it was hashed out already though

[rigid mural]

I liked my idea it was a bit of a statue falling in the wrong place at the wrong time, the monuments to ancestral folly ending the world in a way.

[keen shore]

Hashed out isn’t the right word, more like, people kept talking about it and we got nowhere

[gleaming fog]

Gotcha, I like the statue theory since it does kind of remind me of the turret statues at the end of the wasteland/ascension to eden, but maybe we'll see these things somewhere else and figure out what it's for in a later season

Also, I really hope Vela's theory on the crystal being mid-mountain is correct. Having a season where we get to explore the ruined section of the vault would be amazing.

[keen shore]

You can see part of what really looks like the vault on your way up to orbit! here!

[sharp lichen]

But home is referenced in the Isle Elder temple

[ebon bear]

Is it a possibility that the elders were like the first to be created?

[keen shore]

it doesn’t have to be home! it honestly just looks like elder depictions next to each other to me,

[keen shore]

yeah! it is up to interpretation thouh, as we don’t really know for sure

[ebon bear]

Based on the megabird's canon look, does this imply that the some of the megabird's parts get broken off into light creatures?

[frigid tinsel]

given the direction of the flow, I would say the opposite – light creatures conglomerate together to form Megabird

[keen shore]

both can technically be true though! if they’re all light

[uncut pond]

Yeah since rebirth is a strong theme in Sky it's most likely both; light creatures reunite with and separate from Megabird all the time

[slate saffron]

Man I love cycles. They're so confusing & I don't understand them

[gleaming fog]

Do we have answers to any of these three (or theories)?

• How does one create red crystals? (How did the shattering start?)
• What is the home area/who created it? (Who is guiding us?)
• Why does the megabird reward us for helping the npc skykids to ascend to eden? (What is the megabird gaining from this if it just sends the skykids off? What are the elder spirits gaining from this by being up in eden? How are the elders/megabird linked together? And most importantly, what exactly is eden?)

[copper saffron]

we think eden was once the capital of the kingdom, the holy land where spirits and light creatures once went to ascend to the light. it got corrupted in the collapse, where the power diamond is now. red crystals are probably concentrated darkness

[sharp lichen]

You know, the gates right above the boat doors?

[sharp lichen]

1. Probably darkness itself.
2. The Light, or
3. Because the npc skykids were trapped and dead in Eden, so we help them by freeing them.

[keen shore]

I know where the carving you’re talking about is, I just don’t think it’s showing Home

[sharp lichen]

Uhh does someone have a readily accessible picture to it, let's see it

But even still, Home is such an ingrained part of the game that I can't see it not being canon

[keen shore]

it’s this, reminds me more of the ceremonial worshipper space. i cannot see home being canon personally or if it is it’s like, not entirely a real space — it doesn’t make much sense geographically to me

[sharp lichen]

after all, that's where the Void of Shattering was

[pastel brook]

im just vibing here bro

[keen shore]

i don’t really see how that proves anything tbh
home is like… it could be canon, it just doesn’t jive with my perception of the world

[sharp lichen]

It makes sense if Home was just an island off the coast of the Isle of Dawn, there isn't any contradiction

[untold notch]

i think home is very Game Mechanic in nature but some parts of it could be canon

[gleaming fog]

Where is that carving of (potential) home? Also I feel like home has to be real given he portal at the end of the vault, and the many shrines that we see.

I mean neither of those are necessary from a gameplay perspective (since we can go home at will), so I’m hoping they have some reason to exist.

This might also be confirmation bias talking though lol, it didn’t make much sense that the days of summer spirit was in two places at once :/

[round parrot]

Alright, just did Eden today, and I wanna ask, how is a Child of Light able to break a rock (bonus: and be able to recharge from it?)

[frigid tinsel]

Above the door inside Isle Elder’s temple

[copper saffron]

this isnt just a normal child of light, this is a child of light that is supercharged, literally ascended, indestructible

[frigid tinsel]

they're going to the Light and nothing is gonna stop them

[tough coral]

They're already dead and you can't really kill something twice <3

[potent sedge]

pretty much the same thing ||as the ending from|| journey

[gleaming fog]

You can recharge on the crystals in the shattering memory as well, maybe they’re related somehow?

[hoary flare]

I really want to figure out what this orb in valley's sky is.

I see it everywhere in the valley, and especially during shattering I saw it very clearly in village of dreams. For some reason it gives me a feeling that we're on a moon of a much larger planet

I do wonder if there could be a lore explanation with the orb

Or at least why we see black holes in the sky

[copper saffron]

well in concept arts the sky kingdom was kinda like heaven and above earth so

[hoary flare]

Oh no

Oh no.

you just opened up a whole entire new world of possibilities I didn't think even existed

[copper saffron]

LMAO

[hoary flare]

what have you done

[copper saffron]

idk im just relaying what was in concepts

[tepid veldt]

i’d like to ask if anyone has photos of the lightseekers gang + bloom tree in forest during dob

[floral fossil]

Woahh!! That looks so cool is there a way I can see it

[pastel brook]

-AI brain explodes-

[round parrot]

Should I post it in #screenshots-and-videos or here? (I am pretty sure I have a photo, ill try to find it)

[tepid veldt]

ehhh you can do it in #screenshots-and-videos , just pong me

[round parrot]

Ok nvm I got Mandela Effect'd, I don't have a photo of the Lightseeker spirits 😭

[tepid veldt]

rip thats ok

[distant turtle]

In my opinion, it’s the Eden Elder’s crown/mask, shown against a warped vortex, meant to indicate that the body wearing the crown has just been destroyed.

[copper saffron]

i dont think this art is concept art btw, it looks like fanart to me
also there's a bad word in image 2 that might get it removed

[potent charm]

I never noticed that till now I’ll remove it

[copper saffron]

nothing wrong with it, it's really cool fanart ngl,

and if ur willing to edit the image a bit u can post it with a honk censor lmao
i see it here all the time it's hilarious

[potent charm]

Yes his name is Resh, he was the kid in the prophecy, he became the corrupted king. The statues are all over battle field, which was the gw elders home base which had access to the vault of knowledge so naturally that’s where the war went down. The star headed figure is depicted in many forms. That’s who’s looming in the back ground of all the maps it’s not a mountain it’s the king. The final memory is meant to be seen upside down…

Yes it’s fan art but it’s a reference

[potent charm]

I just removed it because I don’t have the time to alter it plus it’s not my art

[frigid tinsel]

Reposting fanart, especially uncredited, is against the server rules. I don’t recognize the first but the second image is by spearxwind on tumblr: https://spearxwind.tumblr.com/post/668492816015605760

Best to remove the images from your post or delete the message before mods bonk you

[potent charm]

I know of spearxwind I’m a big fan. I was using it as a reference point To my words but it’s fine I’ll just remove them. I don’t see what the big deal is. I’m not trying to take credit for the art. We’re just having a discussion. But it’s fine

[copper saffron]

they're just server rules, we're not trying to complain, just protect you from getting bonked

[frigid tinsel]

Yea, repeatedly breaking server rules can get you muted or banned and I’m sure you don’t want that

[potent charm]

I appreciate it.
However
I’m just gonna stay out of this channel. I don’t do well when the rules are too much. I have a lot of lore ideas/theories and a lot of it is accompanied with pictures and examples. It’s not worth getting booted over something small and in my opinion petty.

Thanks tho y’all are cool.

[frigid tinsel]

Posting links to fanart is acceptable and you can do that instead. In general, it’s best to give credit to the artist when reposting or tslking about their art, even if you’re not claiming credit yourself.

I agree Skycord has a few asinine rules but this isn’t limited to the channel, it’s the whole server. If you think the rules are too much, you’re better off leaving the server entirely. But it’s not that hard to simply be nice to others and give artists credit where it is due

[gleaming fog]

Anyone know why our candles can’t be lit underwater even though blue flames exist?

[hushed steeple]

Anyone wants to exchange ❤️ with me

[copper saffron]

cant ask for those here

[hushed steeple]

Ok

[frigid tinsel]

Fire can’t burn underwater

[hoary ingot]

Hi, Lore! I have some questions about the area before Sanctuary Islands.

#1 What is this marking on the ground? Is it like some time-telling device?

#2 What was the fragmented building?

Here are the photos.

[broken notch]

#1 Maybe that's a constellation map, for the spirits to find their way to other realms. There's another one in the caves, which has many boats so maybe it functions as a map.

#2 Seeing how the area's name is Bird's Nest, maybe the ruins used to be a building for light creatures such as the birds and manta rays seen there to stop over before going to Sanctuary, or maybe that's where the spirits took care of the creatures

[frigid tinsel]

iirc that is either a simple map of Prairie or a leftover from a Light Awaits quest where approaching it would summon a creature. I can’t remember what creature rn but it’s like the eel in the Prarie caves.

You’re in what’s called birds nest. There’s enough light creatures there that the air can recharge you much like the Wind Paths, so presumably that’s a light creature haven. The silos then are probably places where light creatures, possible birds, could shelter and nest. They’re in ruins now so not that good of a shelter anymore.

[hoary ingot]

Makes sense. Thanks so much!

[austere bridge]

hold up there’s an eel in caves

[frigid tinsel]

iirc the constellation on the ground is supposed to be an eel

[eternal totem]

Yeah, it's an eel, think the bird's nest might've been the turtle?

[rigid mural]

Eel in the caves and sparrow in both bird nest and citadel iirc

Turtle is in the prairie village

[keen shore]

I like to imagine they had some kind of function in those areas pre disaster since all of them are linked with light creatures to some degree but I don’t know what yet

[rigid mural]

I like to think it's drawings skykids made with chalk :]

[eternal totem]

Bus stop

[fickle wing]

begging tgc to bring back pufferfish in sky in some way

[eternal totem]

Maybe once they bring more underwater areas 😔

[potent sedge]

oh hohoho that looks amazing

[eternal totem]

I found a bug from 2 years ago that's so in character :,)

[keen shore]

thank you troupe greeter

[sharp lichen]

If Skykids had a chalk feature nowadays the game would be utterly destroyed

[eternal totem]

If we the players had that feature then yeah, but actual Skykids? Probably not that much; chalk could erase overtime compared to stone carving or 'light paint'

[uncut pond]

The chat feature has already done irreparable damage to the game, I don't think a chalk feature could make things that much worse

[eternal totem]

A chalk/drawing feature would in-fact make things so much worse

[frigid tinsel]

I think it’d cause rendering issues but I would love to see what people would draw

[eternal totem]

Writing "I love men" then immediately quitting the game

[keen shore]

I already cause so much chaos with just the air prophet sticker . I would be banned from the game within a day

[eternal totem]

Oooh maybe more stickers would be a good enough substitute, I'm just always weary of public drawing boards

[uncut pond]

On second thought you're right, I bet it'd probably end up like Splatoon...

[eternal totem]

Yeah, but actual Skykids would draw things they've learned & saw it would be adorbs

[uncut pond]

Yeah actual in-lore Skid drawings would actually be very cute

[sharp lichen]

At least you don’t have to chat, imagine a moth walking through Isle and seeing “doublefive sweep!” alongside art of buff Admiring Actor and hot Fire Prophet

[pastel brook]

[sharp lichen]

⛔

[uncut pond]

What are you talking about that's literally the best case scenario

[sharp lichen]

Imagine turf wars between Shattering fans and Shattering haters

[uncut pond]

...Good point

[eternal totem]

We had public chat bugs in beta, I know what that would be like but most of my interactions were positive, can't speak for others though

[rigid mural]

I'd draw arrows to point to neat things, or leave messages for my friends :]
Circling the Eden mural and writing "EVERYONE MOVE OUT OF THE WAY IT'S THE LORE"

[eternal totem]

WHAT WAS HE COOKING?

[rigid mural]

Drawing cat ears and a tail on the forest elder altar

[keen shore]

oh my god I would cry [positive] in game if I saw that

[violet sundial]

I WAS THINKING THAT TOO
Naur….

[fickle wing]

id b drawing a bonkers amount of hearts by my blorbos

[raw crypt]

oh my god this server disappeared from my list and i thought they kicked me like what did i do

anyways they should add images to memory candles

[eternal totem]

Like our own screenshots?

[violet sundial]

A group of skykids posing to spell I LOVE MEN

Brb i’m gonna go to prairie social and greet moths with that /j

[rigid mural]

Writing "drink that makes you gay" on the golden cube by the geyser

[eternal totem]

Writing that at the spell shop banners

[rigid mural]

Spell of trans your gender

[keen shore]

VIOLENCE PIT

[tepid veldt]

im still looking someone tell me if i should sent it to #screenshots-and-videos

[pastel brook]

Nooo! Help me, the mods are- oh, never mind, crisis averted

[frigid tinsel]

The mods are a crisis

[untold notch]

the reshdi divorce incident

[eternal totem]

Which one there's been many

[pastel brook]

[keen shore]

ultimate divorce incident (Eden diamond exploding — it got divorced from itself)

[untold notch]

you pinging ash

which, to be clear, was incredibly funny

[frigid tinsel]

Dark: hey Ash, look at this.
reshdi divorce

[rigid mural]

tbf they saw worse

[untold notch]

and then ash tried to bean dark

[sharp lichen]

Does @ everyone work maybe we could alert genchat to reshdi divorce

[frigid tinsel]

I don't believe so and even if it did, you'd be dropping a bomb on 470k+ people

[untold notch]

you definitely would not be very popular

[eternal totem]

Nah it don't work

[rigid iron]

We need a ping to alert all the lore creatures when something is happening

[sharp lichen]

I can believe.

I genuinely would like to see Sky lore become popular and mainstream within the Sky community, and reshdi is the gateway material to that

[eternal totem]

Yeah, they saw biblically accurate moths & Performance guide hair clasp collection PoV

[rigid iron]

Gloat feet

[frigid tinsel]

I would rather not utilize Reshdi as a gateway to Sky lore since one of the characters, Resh, isn't canon

[raw crypt]

hang on i need to draw smth

[eternal totem]

Damn divorced from canon too

[rigid iron]

He's canon in my heart

[sharp lichen]

Add one on to the gigantic list

[eternal totem]

"@ lore THE GIRLS ARE FIGHTIIIINGGG" one day

[frigid tinsel]

@ lore nerds get your butts in here

[raw crypt]

pinging the lore chat 19 times when the animation drops

[keen shore]

i heavily approve of the usage of the term creatures in this context

[eternal totem]

Lore creters

[pine bane]

hullo everyone

[slate saffron]

Hello discord user Sharkie #1208

[pine bane]

i saw someone in genchat talking about the main plot of Sky hasnt even finish. so out of this curiosity, what is the main plot...?

i mean...aren't the King journey from fallen skykid to being corrupted is THE main plot...?

[frigid tinsel]

nope

[keen shore]

nope! they aren’t a main character in the game, them being corrupted also isn’t canon as far as we know so far
the current plotline is us post disaster, which I guess they could technically be in and we don’t know somehow, but they are almost definitely not

[slate saffron]

Well, the main plot of the game is actually pretty simple! You're a sky kid who has been tasked with bring the lost spirits home. It's just all the other stuff around the main plot that's super vague!

[raw crypt]

mind the delay

[untold notch]

w. why are they mukbangs

[slate saffron]

Slink you're valued & appreciated. I want you to know that before I turn you into a toaster

[eternal totem]

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO I WAS JUST THINKING OF THIS

[raw crypt]

AHHSHSDHDB

also at least turn me into a slinky

[keen shore]

slink I want you to know you would still be my friend even if you turned into a toaster

[frigid tinsel]

skykids are borne of a falling star to a world where an apocalypse caused by the ancestors created an imbalance of darkness. they travel through the realms finding and rescuing ancestor spirits, awakening the Elders who ascend the spirits, then go to Eden to save skykids who came before them, die, then ascend themselves. when they go to the Light, they are greeted and empowered by the beings they saved before they are reborn into the world to continue to rescue spirits and make friends among their peers, lighting up the world with their presence. that's the main plot.

[slate saffron]

@pastel brook want a job?

It's a very cool job 👁️ 👄 👁️ 👍

[untold notch]

is the job corpse

[slate saffron]

Related

[raw crypt]

[rigid iron]

I JUST CLIVKED ON THE SERVER AND THIS EAS PLASTERED ACROSS MY WHILE SCREEN

[raw crypt]

IM SORRY

[untold notch]

woe

reshdi divorce mukbang be upon ye

[fickle wing]

SCREAMINF

[eternal totem]

You reminded me

[raw crypt]

GOOD LORD

[uncut pond]

CRYING

[fickle wing]

MAN I WAS TYPING SOMETHING AND MY BRAIN JUST. COMPLETELY STOPPED IN ITS TRACKS SEEING THIS

[eternal totem]

SORRY

[raw crypt]

psychic damage

[fickle wing]

ITS OK ITS FUNNY

[keen shore]

I’m going to lose it

[uncut pond]

*slams table* EMOTIONAL DAMAGE

[frigid tinsel]

I need to get off the internet

[raw crypt]

reshdi divorce mukbang memes 71 injured 9 dead

[untold notch]

i love disarming people nonphysically

[fickle wing]

managed 2 salvage the bits of what i was typing after my braincell exploded but like i absolutely love how reshdi has the potential to b this real tragic thing w a guard being so devoted to their king that they stick by their side and downward spiral till it goes Too Far but in this channel it’s the disaster divorce duo

[keen shore]

i still wonder why dusk was chosen for this, is it the ststues in their realm? Do they just look the most divorced? [I genuinely thought that second one was the reason]

[raw crypt]

IM ASSUMING THE STATUES but also the epic divorce realm

[eternal totem]

Epic divorce realm, Wasteland spirits all look divorced

[fickle wing]

golden wasteland? nah
divorce wasteland

[keen shore]

i was going to say wastrland is the most divorced realm however given the themes of valley having this huge like split down the middle you could make an argument there if you really wanted to

but I still think it’s wastrland. just vibes

[eternal totem]

Wasteland lost custody in the divorce

Divorce is no longer a real word

[keen shore]

i think ever since I started calling darkness ‘divorce’ it stopped registering for me

[untold notch]

ever since you what

[sharp lichen]

Sky lore is too surreal

[uncut pond]

The Lorechat Experience™

[raw crypt]

HDJDHFHFJ

[round parrot]

I remember in a TGC dev Q&A, one of the devs said that GW elder needs "tough love advice"

[sharp lichen]

Nobody can give the tough love advice unfortunately

[rigid mural]

Sobbing at how I was there at the birth of most of them

[eternal totem]

I was lurking for 30 years

[keen shore]

okay this is inaccurate the psorntoo didn’t even happen in this server /j but seriously, it’s jumpscaring me in the same way as Vela

[slate saffron]

Besides strega of course

Strega can do anything
Strega will do anything
Strega shall subsume succinctly

[eternal totem]

Let's hear it

[slate saffron]

So...

have you heard of benefiber?

[hoary ingot]

So basically, it’s a cycle of saving the world? To usher spirits back to Megabird?

Also, who is Resh 😭

[torn eagle]

Resh/Alef a name in concept art referring to King/Prince

[torn eagle]

Sorta like that with more tidbits in between

[eternal totem]

No, I have not

[slate saffron]

Benefiber

It makes your digestion more digestive & bathroom breaks break you

I shall show them tough love advice

[eternal totem]

Huh

[violet sundial]

lorechat soup

[eternal totem]

HUH

[tepid veldt]

im sorry what

[potent sedge]

so watching my dad play memories got me thinking

spirits have memories we relive and inbetween those memories, they turn into those little orb thingies that we turn into at the end of eden. but we skykids don't have memories

we skykids have memory candles but that's it, and spirits don't seem to have winged light, so huh.... makes me think ;w;

[frigid tinsel]

Skykids are alive and still making memories. Spirits are dead whose memories are of their pasts

[potent sedge]

hm

[south oracle]

Out of curiosity, by that theory, when sky kids die in eden, why don't their memories stay with their statues rather than be reincarnated with them?

[sharp lichen]

Yeah, how would Skykids not have memory? That seems odd in many ways. Would they even know what to do in complex quests?

[violet sundial]

The little orb thing is probably like our soul i think… idk i need a bit more time to dissect and grasp that idea

[frigid tinsel]

no because skykids ascend from their petrified forms. they may be separated from their material bodies, but they are still them and as they ascend, they maintain their memories.

[potent sedge]

i just imagined how eden would sound and it'd probably sound like a lot of screaming children. not a happy thought

[round parrot]

Screams that slowly fade away, the crashing of rocks, the cries of children, the raging storm

Honestly Eden is really noisy

[copper saffron]

I love how dark this game actually is

But yeah i think that little blue spark is the soul and also stores memory

[stable bronze]

I wonder what a shard explosion would look like from Eden..

not saying they actually happen because the story sequence of Eden might be different from when the shards erupt but.. i wanna see it

[stable bronze]

I’d hope not 😅.. if I could only warn my past self who was first passing Eden that:

1. One, yes Eye of Eden is a pretty name. But not a pretty place.

2. Yes you have to die

[stable bronze]

They have to have memory to learn the expressions so yeah I cant see how they dont have memory

[potent sedge]

me and my dad were screaming at each other like 'WHAT DO I DO WHAT DO I DO I'M DYING HELP'

[stable bronze]

Exactly the amount of PANIC😭😭

[wild iron]

The megabird has always been at the constellations in eden . The children of light we save form a part of its "wings" after they reach the sky. Any lore implications?

[sage isle]

OHHHH LORE CHANNELLLL

I need y'alls help. its for the elders and the heights of said elders

[keen shore]

yeah? i think we have their heights although I’d have to find them

[sage isle]

could I possibly have them? I need to do some height comparisons. comparisons between humans(spirits technically), and sky kids

[keen shore]

Elder heights:
Isle – 8'9"
Prairie – 15'5" (prob wrong)
Forest – 10'1"
Valley – 7'5"
Wasteland – 9'10"
Vault – 5'2"

Calculations done by a madlad here: #lore-discussion-spoilers message
Corresponding Google Doc: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1ob6DeBbMUF0bSfeRlfwqSoF_8HWEhp_HMrgiwmZZxsI/edit

[pastel brook]

Did you hear that? It sounded like... Oh no! A KRILL!!!

[potent sedge]

omg vault is hte same height as meeeeeee

[pastel brook]

You know who rules? Maybe we can read about it in the #rules channel

[wild iron]

Ping. I sent something that might interest you

[sage isle]

jesus-

[wild iron]

Hey it would be nice to have a lore nerds ping to ping all the Lore nerds everytime someone wants to talk about something

[potent sedge]

i peronally think that megabird is the sum of all light creatures, or vice versa, but what is interesting to me is the being in the middle. That's a different crown [err, 'crown' = head or something] than king's.

[pastel brook]

you know who rules? it's me, i rule

[sage isle]

thank you, Salem. i needed this, and kuro- the last memory from the season of the shattering confused me; so, the elders were the cause for the diamond going boom? and NOT the king?

[untold notch]

vault is So Short

[potent sedge]

i'm so happy to have someone the same height as me

[keen shore]

[is shorter than night]

[sage isle]

I'm one inch taller than vault elder

[wild iron]

I thought the Diamond went boom because of overload and elders were tryna control it but aight

Also I want to hit the person who kept a winged light so high up.

[potent sedge]

one of my theories is that king was trying to control the diamonds and the elders were like 'nooo ;-;' and they tried to stop but and the diamond exploded and and and the king died in the explosion

[sharp lichen]

I don’t think either of them: I believe everyone in the memory was trying to stop the boom

[sage isle]

ohhhh...

...does anyone have the height ranges for sky kids- i don't know how to look it up

[frigid tinsel]

chibis are 2'3", the max height w/ resize potions is 3'9" or 3'10" depending on who you ask

[sage isle]

thank youuuu <3

[ebon bear]

Where is it

[potent sedge]

Never noticed mr geographers books.... i get the last one is of course lil prince and all that fun stuff but what about the rest

[rigid mural]

I like to link the books in the first two pictures to the creature (especially jellyfish, crab and manta) memories from shattering !

[stable bronze]

Maybe this is where Skykids came from

[hushed steeple]

Has anyone read “Hansel and Gretel”? Well, granny is actually the witch and those food balls are not what they seem.

[sharp lichen]

NO

[round parrot]

I just found something out about these two winged lights, they don't recharge you for some reason. Any explanation?

[sharp lichen]

I think they're representative of the empty souls of the King/Prince

[frigid tinsel]

perhaps its light is absorbed by the darkness of the diamond

[pastel brook]

i dunno about that

[compact shale]

Well, then! Skybot, what's YOUR idea?

[pastel brook]

and thats all for todays episode!

[compact shale]

SKYBOT!

[round parrot]

Skybot gatekeeper

[pastel brook]

you know who rules? it's me, i rule

[lusty merlin]

Wow my head-cannon of the twins being 7” wasn’t too far off then

[eternal totem]

They got masks compared to other WLs, but it might just be a result of asset reusing

I specifically think it's reusing an Eden statue model of some sort

[round parrot]

Ah I see, I just found the way how these wl don't recharge you kinda odd

[quasi harbor]

dropping skykid/spirit twins theory/headcanon cuz been making too many twin ocs lately 🧍

[hushed steeple]

Lore idea. The elders have been monitoring skykids' heroic acts in Eden, especially the part of them coming back to life. "If they can be reborn, why can't we?" And that's when they all collectively decided use the Eye of Eden's core to be reborn the same way that skykids are. But, it all went horribly wrong.

The Eye of Eden was not intended to be manipulated in the way that the elders tried to, so it violently shattered. They desperately tried to hold back the destruction, but it was just too much.

The skykids weren't made aware of anything that happened. Only that the Eye of Eden suddenly started spewing shards, endangering the land.

"Well... It's out of our hands. Let's say nothing, sit back and watch while the skykids clean up our mess." Eventually, 3 of the elders came together in secret, unable to carry the guilt, and decided to aid the skykids by creating 3 special masks.... But they can't make it too obvious, so the masks need to cost weeks of Eden runs and shard cleansing. 👀💧

(Please point me to someone who already had a similar idea. I'd like to know their interpretation.)

[wild iron]

Thats a nice take. I like to see more theories were the elders are not painted as the good guys.

[devout nymph]

btw, the little red floating rocks around the diamond can recharge us.

[hoary ingot]

This honestly makes so much sense. Especially the reoccurring theme of Sky Kids having to clean up the mess left behind by the ancestors/Elders. The Shard event happened so randomly, which the Elder’s secret attempts would give reason to.

[round parrot]

Lore question: What makes up a pocket dimension? We have speculated that the trials and the cutscenes (where we meet the elders) are in pocket dimensions, but how did they make it? How is it functional?

[copper saffron]

magic

[sharp lichen]

It could be a mind space/mentally related

[copper saffron]

probably a mindscape yeah.

[round parrot]

If elders could make pocket dimensions, is it possible for Skykids to make their own? Like maybe a Skykid with higher power?

[copper saffron]

i hc that everyone has a mindscape. you just need a means of getting into it.

[sharp lichen]

Would a Shared Space be like this?

[copper saffron]

boom, there u go

[blazing nova]

they also don't leave sparkles (which is what recharges you). None of the wl in memories have sparkles, either because it's not a place in the "real world" or because they forgot to add them

[round parrot]

I was wondering if there was a more accessible way to getting into a mindscape, instead of shrines being in random places (when I mean random places, I mean very few places)
||I know TLP isn't canon iirc, but I wanna make a reference to the asteroid cape, the use of said cape is to transport a Skykid to B612 (aka the French boy's planet/asteroid) without some sort of shrine||

[cobalt palm]

Interesting that the chains aren't part of the spirit that gets ascended, I wonder if TGC intended it, as I'm thinking a lore interpretation is that the complexes holding the characters down in the little prince, is what is chaining these spirits from fully ascending.

[round parrot]

My personal headcanon is that the TLP spirits are chained to their own needs/desires/ignorance(???), and when we ascend them, they are free from said needs/desires/ignorance (thus breaking the chains)

[wild iron]

I don't think they are ever free.

[sharp lichen]

Perhaps, although that’s a darker interpretation

[keen shore]

I ACTUALLY HAVE AN EXPLANATION FOR THIS ONE
theory that the pocket dimensions in Sky are inside darkstone — with the elders being inside the Eden diamond; & the trials being inside a piece of darkstone placed within the statue.

General evidence

• Darkstone holding light, as we can see over and over again - could it hold complex worlds made of light?
• Memory lanterns use darkstone to project images & tell stories - so the answer still leans towards ‘yes’
• If you were inside the darkstone itself vs outside it, just seeing what it projects, would the worlds it holds be more complex and immediately visible?
• when darkstone within is activated, it causes immediate effects within the world. most of these can be explained by the darkstone themselves powering those. i hc that the ones that are not, are just due to how elders work [I can explain this if necessary]

Evidence for elders

• shattering q6 showing that it’s entirely possible they got sucked into the diamond during this
• 4/6 eyes glow blue when you first light their candles, & then yellow after, colors of uncharged & charged darkstone [Dawn & Night are the exceptions to this. their eyes don’t glow blue the first time but otherwise seem to be the same, although we can’t see nights statue after. still working out why this is]
• have powerful enough light that they could theoretically create light-worlds around themselves with simple images & constructs, despite weakness
• look extremely similar to shattering memories which are heavily implied if not outright stated to be inside diamond

Evidence for trials

• Look very similar to elder cutscenes, in terms of color palette, the sky, & the world you’re within drifting in a void. more complex but they are powered by colored lights vs typical light.
• Meditate to enter in the same way as elder cutscenes & with the same glowing eyes phenomenon
• Every effect they cause upon completion, can be explained by the darkstone being activated & causing them

[copper saffron]

Darkness stores memory spaces and pocket dimensions yes

[keen shore]

I kinda get what you’re going for and it might be true, but personally I dislike that general idea, as several of the things the tlp spirits experience mirror irl mental illness and I don’t like the idea that you can’t ascend while experiencing those

[round parrot]

Interesting theory!
But, I wonder, is it still possible to (slowly) get corrupted while being in said darkstones? Or is it completely safe?

[keen shore]

My personal headcanon is that the worlds & people within would slowly erode if you stayed long enough, or if the light that charged them was used to power things. the elders have a lot of light & so we just came in the nick of time. hence why we have to keep giving them flame

however you can interpret it either way!

[round parrot]

Perhaps as children of light, we continue to light up the diamond, thus keeping it alive as we are in said headspace. Your headcanon is probably what happens to ancestors, who are not directly related to light (but still use it). They probably have experts trying to keep the diamond alive (or lit) in order to make sure that an ancestor doesn't die in a headspace

[untold notch]

it's fully possible the chains just don't have a change for ascension too

[keen shore]

i do think the tlp spirits ascended offscreen just like the prophets

[hoary ingot]

i have a few questions. why are all the ancestors spirit bodies in the same position (bent over, kneeling)? and what does iirc mean?

[eternal totem]

If I recall correctly, iirc

[sharp lichen]

If I remember correctly

The ancestor's bodies are probably in that fetal position because they're dead

[hoary ingot]

of course . but what caused that many dead bodies to die in that same position? i know that ||skids who died in Eden are in the same position. ||

[rigid mural]

Could be them trying to protect what little light they have left as well as being just easier for the 3d artists and servers.

[flint bolt]

Guys, if you turn on Discord Light mode you can finally solve all Sky Lore.

[keen shore]

since spirits have light cores in their chests they’re probably curled around it trying to protect those! as well as just being easier artist wise like Vela said

[potent sedge]

idk who made the meme but someone made a meme where it's like
king: i have killed so many people
us: awwww look at the skrunkly

and honestly that's true for me

[keen shore]

I’m going to be that person and say there’s no evidence they killed anyone

[potent sedge]

true

but in my au they have lol

[keen shore]

unfortunately, in terms of canon, this couldn’t have happened.

only one skykid existed pre disaster [the disaster in question is what’s being depicted in shattering q6.] & we don’t really know if they went to Eden or not. you could make it a headcanon though If you wanted !

also blackberry if you’d mention thigs are from your au instead of talking about them as they’re facts in canon, it would be appreciated by all of us. especially concepts like this that are taken as ‘granted’ but don’t have much to back them up

[potent sedge]

My bad

I just headcanon that they have but i get what you're saying

[potent sedge]

But yeah i never noticed uhh geographers books

I just find it interesting
Also do we know that the little sun symbol thingie is a skykid? I can't show a pic of it rn but it's a little sun symbol with a dot in it
We know that our ancestors carried them on ships because of the mural in isle of dawn

[potent sedge]

I'm sorry

[fickle wing]

yknow what i hope we get w the artbook dropping
figuring out what funky concept animal the twins might’ve had
cause like. W the other elders we know daleth was like a vulture n teth was a funky lynx n tsadi had a spider crab thing but w the twins every time i try n pinpoint what they were im just stumped like ?###?#??##??#

like. There’s a handful of guesses i got but they feel like a bit of a reach sometimes

[rigid mural]

My guess is that they're waiting for chrismas season to drop the artbook, since people will ask for it as a present.

[violet sundial]

My guess is that they “dropped” the only copy into a flaming volcano and now they have to delay it to 2029 to make a new artbook 😍/j

[pastel brook]

-strokes non-existent beard-

[keen shore]

my first guess is some kind of bird (birds of paradise?) but THERES SO MANY BIRDS ALREADY …

[frigid tinsel]

Don’t mock me, skybot

[low spindle]

Can we also discuss au/headcanons here?

[frigid tinsel]

Yes, as long as you state they are AUs/headcanons

[low spindle]

Ok ok, au/hc idea of a friend group, and im stuck on something

And so, the first two friends are

Shattering guide, and performance guide

Shattering because they are widely hated

Performance because they are widely loved

And i was thinking little prince rose as the third because its an object + a collab (would of gone with aurora if aurora wasnt a real person lol) and the fact little prince is a loved season but when it came out had lots of issues.

[rancid cape]

hi i came here to talk abt lore since i accidentally started to talk a lot about it and ending up making a whole text wall to my friend.

[keen shore]

yeah! what are your thoughts? Adore your pfp btw

[tepid veldt]

fall into the lore trap /hj

salem, what does your status imply

[rancid cape]

i'm gonna send a screenshot of everything cause i feel lazy after analyzing a lot of things