eden-spoilers

[little edge]

so jealous 😭

[woven onyx]

For how long did you take break from sky?

just curious

[warm sparrow]

from season of performance start til revival start
I started in flight

you can probably tell i took a huge break by the fact i have so few traveling spirit wings LOL

[lusty monolith]

I cant rn, i just saw a moth try to fly in eden and lose like 20 wl😭

[broken folio]

nooooooooooooooooooo :(

[little edge]

do you think a strategy for statues could be to do some of the later statues first, then come back for the early ones? for like ~90 wl

or would that not work since i'd have to run thru the hard part there and back (so twice)

[hardy bough]

Not sure if that’s a good strategy, given you lose more WL the more you have. And a few statues ahead are in the deadzone.

[subtle canyon]

when eden restarts?

[vapid sage]

!er

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708243200:F> (In 4 days 13 hours 32 minutes 31 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[subtle canyon]

ah thanks, knew there was a command for that but didnt knew what it was

[fiery whale]

Anyone wanna help me through eden… I’ve never completed it because last time I went alone I lost all my wl (now I’m scared)

[teal violet]

Do you still want help ? I was planning on running Eden today with the dragon costume

[fiery whale]

Oo yes pleasee !!

[fiery whale]

We could figure it out through dms if that’s ok with you?

[teal violet]

Yeah no prob !

[thorny saddle]

I finally braved Eden! 🥹 Started playing Sky a year ago and finally had the courage to go. I still chickened out before the point of no return 😭 cause i don’t want to restart yet, but i did the whole course to collect the wl 🥳✨ I’m really proud of myself, bc krills still scare me lol

[chrome ice]

So fresh

[humble tulip]

!er

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708243200:F> (In 3 days 22 hours 27 minutes 30 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[true lantern]

hello, i just started the game a week ago and went to eden twice. Now as far as i understand, the strat for a new player would be to do eden as much as they can and unlock spirits with ascended candles so when they are reborn they'd start with 1 more permanent wing power, right? How far off am i

[zenith thistle]

yeah, it's optimal in terms of getting your wl count higher

just keep in mind the weekly reset, you can't save statues more than once per week. red shards are a decent source of ac too

well, as long as you're having fun. but i wouldn't recommend doing it in small batches

[somber kestrel]

can anyone guide me through eden?

[glacial storm]

you can always ask in #looking-for-group-live

[stiff needle]

If you ascend a spirit in orbit do they still give a wing buff?

[devout vector]

Don't forget the red shards. 2 AC = 2 wing buff for those beginner spirit friendship trees. get as much wing buff as you can to save time on collecting shiny kids from every corner of the map

[little edge]

I'd recommend waiting until you have at least 80 WL to do a full run of eden

[rare ermine]

can u get wing buffs from the friendship trees with friends

[little edge]

no

[stiff needle]

Im just wondering but is the area right before you are reborn also called orbit?

In the community

Its really pretty lol

[wind gull]

the starry place you can walk around in is orbit

[little edge]

yep

[jovial sonnet]

AC = Ascended Candles
And yes, but it refers to the color of the shard drop and reward.
Black shards in this example gives regular candle wax rather than Ascended Candles! Hope this helps!

[outer oyster]

This is foul😭

[spark inlet]

I swear Eden came back with more accuracy

[faint cedar]

I was in eden last week near the end of the pnr, when all the sudden all the red crystals on the map turned into wax? i've never seen this before, is this normal?

[hardy bough]

I’ve seen it happen when a new day starts

[warm sparrow]

I've heard that happens on a certain hour of the day, or something?

[hardy bough]

I’ve been to Eden so much I feel nothing but joy going there.

[stark lodge]

There's joy in Eden, but the suffering is the recollecting of winged light.

[hardy bough]

It’s more of a home to me than Aviary or old home

I’ve been there that often

[stark lodge]

I used to go there that often too after my candle runs. But now I'm just bored of it too.

[hardy bough]

I’m still not bored of Eden. Even after 4 years

[balmy atlas]

Yes!

Quite helpful when Eden's fragments fall

[little edge]

cr eden anyone? ||jkjk||

[uncut sundial]

!er

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708243200:F> (In 2 days 2 hours 54 minutes 7 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[vernal tangle]

Wait. The umbrella that keeps rain off of you in the Forest keeps red fragments off you in Eden ?

[balmy atlas]

Yep bc when i used it the shard cant take my light (bad English sorry)

[vernal tangle]

I undersand you. Now I want that umbrella even more ! Thank you for your comment.

[stark lodge]

Actually, you guys are wrong. The umbrella doesn't protect you from red shards in Eden.

[glacial storm]

a light source is more important in eden too since you essentially have to make your sky kid survive long enough to grab all the statues.

[quasi sigil]

I just figured out that fast recharge spells and full revive spells are amazing doing eden runs solo with no props.

[warm sparrow]

Can they relight your candle after its gone out? Ive never tried that lol

[stark lodge]

Big tip: Always have your wing menu open on the instant recharge spells. It can relight you and others nearby.

[warm sparrow]

6 yes reactions dang thats insane, i never thought to try that because i assumed itd never work LOL

instant recharge, and slow regen, how well do those work later on in eden, in areas youre being constantly rained on, or say for example the final torch spot where youre still being hit sometimes behind the cover

I cant believe ive done enough eden trips for the forest face accessory and 53 wing buffs and... i never knew that LOL

Guess i know what im trying next eden reset, i normally only use those spells while flying to places i shouldnt

[coral glacier]

It can be difficult to reach the spells in the area past the final torch because your menu will close every time you lose a wing.

[warm sparrow]

Ahhh interesting

The auto regen spell, does that give much in the last section? I imagine itd not keep you from crawling but i guess ill find out myself lol

[south acorn]

!er

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708243200:F> (In 1 day 10 hours 18 minutes 5 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[south acorn]

Tgc staff

[quasi compass]

after coming back from eden safe to say that was it worth all that trouble for a 2 ac unlock? No not really, was it worth it. Yes

[native folio]

Really?!! How does it relight others nearby?

[stark lodge]

When you use it nearby other players, the other players nearby will be restored and a message: "Someone replenished your energy nearby" will appear.

[native folio]

I gotta check that out. How close do they have to be to you?

[stark lodge]

They have to be nearby. Anywhere far away and it won't work.

[blazing quarry]

Does it have to be a friend?

I always go solo, new territory for me 🥲

[stark lodge]

It should work with strangers.

[blazing quarry]

I guess I’ll try to try it out on Sunday 🫠 I always end up alone though…

[coral glacier]

Extremely late, but using a full recharge in the section past the last torch will only save you from one hit on average. It’s easy to waste time navigating to the spell menu while trying to crawl forward and if you find yourself getting closed out constantly and unable to crawl forward while menuing it would be more beneficial to not attempt to use it at all. Its best use case if you are a ~170 wing+ player and are boosting other players in the final crawl section.

[lusty monolith]

This moth dragged me into eden when i was afk 😭

[spiral wren]

gg XD did you at least have an extra wing buff from a new TS?

[ornate plinth]

Lmao 😆😆😆 the " no! " Got me.

[warm socket]

LOOL

[honest pond]

Using the umbrella acttually made it harder to walk and easier for wind to grab me. I was disappointed, but its great in hidden forest.

[swift anvil]

returning player here! i haven’t played since 2022 and my friend and i went to eden and saw this in orbit, what is it? it was so ominous just standing there lol

[wind raft]

The spread of Eden is nigh...

[drifting vigil]

anyone know how i can get a taxi

for eden

[wind gull]

you can always ask for in-game assistance in #looking-for-group-live

[drifting vigil]

thx

[valid tide]

!er

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708243200:F> (In 8 hours 55 minutes 10 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[uncut tendon]

Sorry if this is not related to Eden. But how does Oreo contribute to the sky Lore, is he just a single realm doggo, a guard of some sort, or just an inside joke by TGC???

[formal mesa]

This would probably be better fit in #lore-discussion-spoilers

[wind gull]

oreo is just an easter egg

[hardy bough]

What is the point of assisting people in Eden if half of them just use the skip for the second part?

[wind gull]

what's wrong with helping the hard and long way? not everyone likes using shortcuts

if you're saying you should use shortcut with the moth, how about when the moth is gonna do it on their own but they don't know shortcuts? they still need to climb up the long way and will most likely flail around terribly since they don't know how

[hardy bough]

This is exactly what I do

What bugs me is sometimes I help in the first part, expecting that they’ll need help in the next part, then they hug the wall and are at the top in like a minute.

[wind gull]

to each their own

your wording confuses me, that's for sure

[hardy bough]

I help people that struggle with doing it the normal way

Sometimes though, it’s hard to tell if they’re gonna use the skip in the second part or not

[quiet glacier]

has anyone else ever stopped to notice how your sky kid is clutching their hollow chest as they limp toward the only source of light in the void after turning to stone on eden's summit?

also, any other tall players suffering when you gotta hug them?
this only seems to look right when i wear my chibi mask

[little edge]

hmm yeah it does look normal for me with short height

[little edge]

i mean light is probably most connected to the heart/soul of a skykid

[jolly perch]

maybe they don't know the shortcut for the first part?

[ionic mist]

So. There's something odd in Orbit.

[hardy bough]

Alright round 2 then

[hardy bough]

Also I think that’s the elevator crystal from vault

[ionic mist]

See I would agree usually but at the same time. Why would it be in orbit of all places(and nowhere near the Elders, if it's supposed to be for Vault Elder's summoning cutscene)

Plus correct me if I'm wrong but. It looks like it's cracked in the same places as the Eden Crystal .

[coral glacier]

#eden-spoilers message that’s a bugged part of forest elder’s summoning cutscene

[outer oyster]

!er

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708848000:F> (In 6 days 23 hours 57 minutes 7 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[spiral wren]

how do I reproduce this?

[vapid osprey]

Hello guys is anyone interested to fly me into the eyes of eden for ascended candles 👉🏻👈🏻

[brazen raven]

what?

[hidden iron]

What is that?

[outer oyster]

Is eden glitched 🗿 i turn into a blue spirit and keep flying to nowhere

Oh, nvm the skip button appears

[humble tulip]

!er

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708848000:F> (In 6 days 17 hours 46 minutes 40 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[wind gull]

Common bug if you're flying around but not towards another player

In other word, void bug

[vapid sage]

I went to Eden yesterday and I saw this mannequin and I could not resist taking screenshots

[knotty plover]

I just... didn't I just answer that question @true lantern?

[zealous valve]

(Wouldn't quite call this spoilers but just to be safe) i still have so msny wl to go but i cant find s single spirit who i havnt alr given one to T-T

[slate crest]

i love sky but its a little annoying when i have to wait for other people to lose their light in pnr 😭

just sat spectating someone as an orb for 10 mins ................................... 💔

[short peak]

it is indeed annoying, its only nice when youre with friends

[little edge]

u probably have to go toward the eden crystal

[queen needle]

Friends made during Eden >>>
No clue what their name was but I’ve named them McNugget
McNugget, you’re a real one 🫡

[acoustic patio]

[earnest imp]

!edenreset

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708848000:F> (In 6 days 9 hours 3 minutes 8 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[wheat seal]

Playing my favorite movie soundtracks help with the whole eden thing.. i always feel a bit sad letting go of all the wl I gathered during the week (and since I do eden every week)

The winged buff in the ends so worth it though, my initial flight increases week by week

[mild pulsar]

got to eden capeless lol

[wind gull]

they're pretty much immune

[restive warren]

How’d that go?

[queen agate]

Mi duo whe separated

[tired vine]

You could also turn internet off for like 30 seconds

[lyric vortex]

😭

[hardy bough]

What did you do?

[glacial storm]

Most likely accidentally getting trapped into a red shard

[humble lion]

May i know if the elders friendship tree has been fixed now? Thank you!

[stark lodge]

And this, kids, is why you light the lanterns beforehand. Otherwise, you would've been in a pickle.

[lusty monolith]

omg bro thats the worst case ive ever seen

[sly fractal]

The fact that you got hit again in the cutoff…

[native folio]

Orbit used to have a chat bench on a starry bridge walkway- are they still there?

[wind gull]

if you mean the spiral ones with the view to the door, it's still there last time i go

[native folio]

Ohhh - I couldn’t find it…. I’ll look harder next time 😊

[signal timber]

!shard

!shards

Perchance— nvm

[timber lotus]

!concertwhen

[knotty plover]

The Wings of AURORA item gives the wearer and the friends they hold hands with the special ability to view the concert in one of its six time slots.

Concert times:

<t:1699178433:t> 》<t:1699192832:t> 》<t:1699207254:t> 》<t:1699221618:t> 》<t:1699236033:t> 》<t:1699250448:t>
(These timestamps are in your local time!)

[glacial storm]

no shard command, but there is a website which you can check shard times https://sky-shards.pages.dev/

[rare ermine]

was on my dummy account and these skids decided to have a vacation in eden lmaoo

[terse flame]

“The breeze is rather nice don’t you think?”

[tepid raptor]

i cant remember if i went to eden before or after the reset and im too scared to find out

[hardy bough]

I mean, what do you have to lose going?

[native swallow]

Guys is it normal that I can't give light to the statues rn?

Oh wait right

Eden resets, me big dum dum

[hardy bough]

Double check the statues, might’ve missed a couple

[stark lodge]

Went to Eden with a bunch of friendos. This happened when I started crawling.

My Sky kid for real said "I'll give you a head-start" then immediately caught up with one of my friends. 💀

[hidden iron]

How to go aurora

[formal mesa]

You can ask someone in #looking-for-group-live to take you

[hidden iron]

Thanks for the info

[lusty monolith]

WTHH that happened to me too

[warm sparrow]

red crystals are extremely cursed

[coral glacier]

i love when this happens (serious)

[hardy bough]

Well I’m bored, time to go to Eden for no reason

[ember wing]

Another lazy edit!!! It’s amazing how we get used to the stressful environment of Eden

CREDITS:
App Used: CapCut
Song Used: I honestly don’t know TT, sorry!!

[willow oak]

Will Eden ever end?

[hardy bough]

No

[obtuse mist]

What does everyone think about the patch on Eden? I havn’t been back yet to confirm

Not sure how I feel about it being easier

[shadow spire]

going to try it tonight or tomorrow, but just from reading the patch notes:
on one hand, i did like the challenge of eden, it felt like one of the few things that still required some effort to do successfully which made it more worth it
on the other hand, as someone that runs eden every week, being able to do it quickly is really nice

[zenith thistle]

seems like they forgot why they removed spark emotes

let's hope the timeout reduction is sufficient

[sharp scaffold]

The safe spot is actually safe now

It does feel harder to get to that last statue now. Before i could just crawl there and still have a 100 wing light to burn through. But now i keep getting knocked down and blown around on the way

[formal mesa]

I noticed that too when I did it in Beta, that's really frustrating should probably #live-feedback that

[sharp scaffold]

Yah, I'm trying to decide what i would recommend. I don't necessarily dislike the difficulty. Spewing a bunch of winglights is fine and having to work to reach the end makes it feel like an achievement. But it is quite frustrating to

[formal mesa]

As someone who's only known the crawling mechanic as a Shattering moth, I think it's a welcome change, but it does definitely need some work. Maybe some improvements to how quickly it takes you to stand up after getting knocked down (could be quicker or slower, depending on your wing count) might help?

[sharp scaffold]

Also, whale buddy!

[shadow spire]

does height make more of a difference in eden now? or is it still about the same as before?

[outer oyster]

!edenwhen

How

!edenreset

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708848000:F> (In 2 days 6 hours 36 minutes 46 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[ancient patrol]

I dont get the new updates, can someone explain 😭

[hybrid quiver]

Which parts of the updates are you curious about?

[ancient patrol]

Like these 2

[hybrid quiver]

So previously in Eden whenever you get hit by rocks, you just get knocked onto your hands and knees and you'll have to crawl to statues. It didn't matter how many lights you had you'd need to slowly crawl to your next destination

Now you only get slowed at 20 lights (you're in a limping animation), and only become knocked over and have to crawl at 10 lights

This just makes Eden less tedious and might allow players to sacrifice more light before they run out

[hybrid quiver]

The quicker avatar movement refers to being able to move more freely when hurt above 20 lights, moving slightly slower under 20, and crawling pretty slowly at 10 and less

[ancient patrol]

ohhhhh!!! i get it now thanks alot

[hybrid quiver]

Sorry I don't have the answer to your question but did height make a difference before this update?

[shadow spire]

i felt like chibi got blown around by wind more, altho idk it could've been like a placebo effect or something

[hybrid quiver]

Hmm I see

I felt like chibi didn't get hit as much but I'm pretty sure that's placebo

[warm sparrow]

went into eden today and i see what they meant by improved cover in some spots
unfortunately i think i preferred crawling in that last segment of eden, the rocks knocking me down every couple seconds and stopping my movement completely seems way more rougher than crawling and not being slowed down
its a bit nicer earlier on though, for sure

i dont get hit much earlier on unless i really mess up, so uhh, makes the ending harder for me i guess

feels like how i remembered eden a long time ago, where you'd get to the final segment with no cover or light and you're just struggling to stand up until it finally gets ya, heh

[coral glacier]

#pc-questions message
I've dreaded this for a while, part of me can't believes development pushed this update through but another understands why they did it for "balancing reasons". Because the amount of players with more wings in the game is growing, they're balancing it to be harder, not easier.

But it doesn't sit easy with me. Especially because it does not make return visits any better and the final section is still very stilted. It feels like there could have been a few better ways to handle it, but it couldn't be realized. I just wish that development would be honest and say that they're making it harder balancing it for higher wingcounts.

[warm sparrow]

the update does make everything up to that point easier in the sense that mistakes arent as punished, and cover in a few spots is far better

but yeah, the final segment now is... odd.
you go faster while crawling compared to this, but only hit crawling at 10 so realistically if you're going to be trying to get all the statues, thats only going to be feasable with a TON of winged light

[coral glacier]

beta testers were saying a week before content shipment it's not balanced for 160-170 WL players anymore, you're unlikely to reach the end with that amount unless you're entering with multiple others and don't get hit once before the final torch

[warm sparrow]

oh dear, lol. i was able to very cleanly do eden runs with 80/90 and usually only miss 3-6 statues

i went in with 101 and struggled in that last section really hard, i died before the sand dune

14.25, instead of 15.75 so i missed uhh... 7? despite going in there with more than usual

as soon as the first smack hit me and knocked me down and i dropped 5 wings, and then the second hit me for another 4 wings, i knew it was not gonna go my way LOL

[coral glacier]

i'm still a firm believer that there's a damage scaler somewhere in the equation, that you lose more wings the more you enter with in order to make you more evenly paced with others and it's designed like that for if you're playing in a group there aren't as many runaway players at the end. but i don't know how the new patch regards that. the beta footage i saw was very unforgiving. you bleed out extremely fast as soon as you pass the last torch.

[warm sparrow]

next time i'll probably go in with 80 or 90 again, so i'll see if it makes much of a difference

while it might drop more or less winged light, the knockdown effect i think is the most brutal part lol

and that was just chain stunning almost, my friend i went in with had a good 10 seconds they couldn't even move forward at all

[coral glacier]

the knockdown stunning was heavily feedbacked on the basis that your player can't move forward at all and is still in a vulnerable state, which was not a feature during crawling. you could always move forward when crawling was a mechanic. (unless you got crit hit)
so, unless it's intended, it's a game design oversight that is causing you to die quicker. if it is intended, it's part of the mentioned balancing that is rewarding players with more wings.

[warm sparrow]

yeah, while you got crit the game would kinda slomo a second, but you wouldn't stop moving, just slow down a moment. and you had a cooldown before you could get crit again, for the most part. but now all those crits come with getting knocked down, and you might get blown by the wind

its kinda funny to me, i came back and quickly got used to the crawling, and found it better than when i originally played
but that seems to have been very frustrating to quite a few, and i guess now we're back to how eden used to be

[coral glacier]

a months long grind for players to get the wings they need to feel accomplished in reaching the last statue ^
we have to keep them coming back for something

[warm sparrow]

I will say, that with the wind changes, flying up the first cliff past the door in eden is now significantly easier

i tried to do my usual method but since there's less resistance, you dont get to use that for vertical height, so you gotta be far more careful not to just burn your wings at that old angle lol
but now you can just kinda fly up there with no issue

i was able to do it with 5 wings before and i did that today, let me see if i can do it in any less

[coral glacier]

oh yes, this is off topic, but are you open to discord msg/sky invite? I want to test the PC invite and see if it's broken

[warm sparrow]

sure, let me open my dms again to here heh (done)

[warm sparrow]

So, its possible to skip the cliff using only 3 wings now
that was fun LOL

shoutouts to the 4 sky kids there all trying to practice flying up that cliff, all throwing calls out to regenerate and with the props down
sure saved me some time lmao

[lament lynx]

is anyone else just keeps getting blown/knocked back by the wind and rocks at the last part of the storm or is tall height just really cursed :'))

[inner quiver]

On my first journey to the Eden I want alone nobody wanted to help me

[hardy bough]

It’s not that bad

Wait a minute with all the server issues… does that mean people have to run Eden solo now?

[coral glacier]

Because of the way Eden matchmaking works, I think everyone who entered PNR may be stuck solo now.

[hardy bough]

So people have to do Eden how I first experienced it?

[odd junco]

I decided to do another Eden run for this week just to get a feel for the new (or old version if you're a vet, I am however new) version before Sundays reset.

The last bit was incredibly frustrating. I grabbed any statues I was missing but I think I missed one statue and it's the one at the very very end of Eden. I had 120wl towards the end section and could not reach that statue, I wish you started crawling at a slightly higher WL number to give you a bit more of a fighting chance for those last 3 statues.

Probably a skill issue on my part but I digress.

[vernal tangle]

You are not supposed to get all the statues in Eden. It's possible but you need a lot of wings, skill and experience. Even someone who has been playing for a year doesn't expect to get every statue every time.

[odd junco]

I only missed 1, I can usually get about 60 out of 63 statues in one run.

And this is solo

[vernal tangle]

I'm just saying you shouldn't feel bad because of that. You're doing far better than most players.

[celest badger]

Yeah

[odd junco]

Oh no worries on that lol, I don't feel bad about it. It was just shocking because I lost more WL in that one tiny section with the update than I lost during past Eden runs.

[sleek tangle]

Is it possible to "finish" the eden?

[warm sparrow]

I think it has more to do with the fact that players who could do that before, now are going to have far more trouble getting further in to the last section, and its quite a lot more frustrating by what i experienced last night.
I was usually able to only miss 3-6 statues on 80/90 winged light, but i went in last night with 100, and missed more statues than normal. a friend of mine went into eden with me with a bit over 120 light, and ended up getting stuck and being unable to move forward in the end before the sand dune for like 10 seconds, due to the wind
They ended up with a similar amount to me, in terms of skill and experience it does not particularly matter in the last section, where you are just trying to keep moving forward in the last section.

next week im going to see how it is on somewhere around the 80-90 range, i have a theory that theres a breakpoint in there for damage but i have to see it with this current version of eden

that last section always has felt a bit random, you cant really dodge the rocks and just have to take the damage. but now the damage slows you down again far more, like eden used to be

[odd junco]

That was where I got absolutely hamblasted with damage was right before the dune, by the time I reached the dune I had about 70 wl left and just kept getting knocked down before I could reach that final one at the absolute end.

It was mostly a test run to get a feel for the update before Sundays reset and to play around with flying past rocks to get to PNR. I think I've ran Eden a total of 7 times prior to this update? I started sky around Chrismas.

[warm sparrow]

I was running every week for months, doing it at most 100 wings

and i was pretty consistently able to only miss the last few, even without the elder accessory heh

since there are like 67 statues total, really its just about getting all the safe ones without losing any wings, and then grabbing the 10 or so you find in the last section with a bit of good luck, before you hit the sand dunes, which is only the last 5.
now that entire last section is uh
somethin else

this is my personal favorite pre-patch clip

its pure luck to avoid getting hit like i did there, i dont think that'll be happening again lol

seems they know #known-issues message

[sand adder]

I”ll rather go back into crawling, at least i could move

[odd junco]

That was me at that part too 😭😭😭😭

[tired vine]

At least you didn‘t get blown back…

[stark lodge]

Oh jeez is it that bad?

I haven't gone since the patch since I already did last Sunday.

[gaunt sphinx]

Those kid didn’t need my help, why am I here then 😭

[cold linden]

Yea I normally can go in an run around the first area lighting up the statues for myself and others, but they made it so you CANNOT light the statues until after you handed out a wl ! It’s so lame! I want to be able to have charge points BEFORE I start clicking hands, it’s how I used to be able to collect all the first area statues without even going gray once. But NOW, I died 4-6 times just in the first section alone! I went in with 220 wings and I COULDNT MAKE IT TO THE LAST ONE! Normally with crawling I would get to the last one and still have like 40 wings left, but this time nope. It’s wasn’t about skill or anything it was this new “prioritizing the wl icons” that messed me up, with the extra strong damn rocks. Once I got up over the hill at the end too the rocks hitting me was so many and so blinding I couldn’t even see myself, totally would rather crawl. AND THEN WHEN I GET TO HEAVEN, the ascend candles almost didn’t register and I was freaking out that I wasn’t going to get them, but after about 5 minutes of freaking out they finally did. Here a little video of what that was like

[glad urchin]

Just popped in to see how the new Eden runs…not looking forward to it.

[coral glacier]

#known-issues message
wow, so the stunlocking wasn’t intentional and all the feedbacking in beta was for naught. ahah, nice one development, next time PLEASE let massive gamechanging features stay in the oven longer before shipment
it’s so disappointing and i’d like to be proven otherwise if possible

[formal mesa]

cough cough Time constraints cough cough

[coral glacier]

no, a limitation and shortsightedness of the game they have made and having to ship everything in beta into the live patch(?)

this shouldn’t have shipped as is and needed more time and eyes on it, it shouldn’t unless someone higher in the chain of development wanted it to launch as is with 0.24.5, or there is a glaring weakness in the system of being able to remove/choose what gets sent to Live in the event features are not ready for the public.

[formal mesa]

Mind you, the next quest is in a couple days

It's either they ship the update now, or they go through the pains of delaying the next quest and possibly the season in general

[coral glacier]

No, I understand that and acknowledge that. I am saying that Eden updates should not have been a part of this update cycle at all. The part being labeled as a #known-issues was already heavily scrutinized and feedbacked for the exact reasons it’s become an issue.
To bring up that the rest of the content must launch on time is missing the forest for the trees, that there is seemingly a structural and feedback issue going on when it comes to content launch. The structure issues is that there isn’t a way to smoothly decide what features of the code gets pushed into Live(?), seemingly all major changes do. The feedback issue is that there is some breakdown regarding development time between iterations being too quick possibly leading to the inability to naturally implement the feedback of players who are testing.
Ideally, this content should not have hit live because what it is believed to do was not fully realized yet. But it did because there is a breakdown in a game design and testing system somewhere(?)

[warm sparrow]

assuming they're able to patch it in some reasonable timeframe before the season is like over i dont imagine a bit of t ime loss between some quests would be all that big of a deal exactly, but its not particularly great lol

[coral glacier]

No, they should always prioritize keeping the collaboration season stable, because it is an agreement/ due they owe and has the most money and stakes riding on it. It’s why some form of content had to ship, there was a deadline.

[formal mesa]

It's kinda of a lose-lose situation either way, people are most certainly complaining about the hundreds of bugs, but it's likely they'll also complain if the quest gets delayed/doesn't work right if the update hadn't come out, and there are probably a million and ten other reasons too

I agree it really sucks, but we're not the devs, so there's not really anything we can do

[coral glacier]

i can be disappointed as the reality i feared for about the past month unfolds in front of my eyes

[warm sparrow]

im mostly lookin at it from an overall kinda harm done perspective, assuming they're able to fix it in a reasonable timeframe i dont see it hurtin much long term but its not ideal and doesnt look good at all if the quest ends up delayed by it lol

[formal mesa]

It looks bad either way is what I'm saying, but yea

[hardy bough]

Eden 2.0 now with more funny red rocks

[cold linden]

Eden 2.0 devs thought:

we will allow them to walk and not crawl, and give them two extra boulders to try and hide behind, but we must then LEVEL THEM WITH A MASSIVE AMOUNT OF RED ROCKS SO THEY HAVE TO FIGHT FOR EVERY SINGLE STEP

[stark lodge]

Or they're simply telling us to git gud.

[torn monolith]

Did they patch that crack where we could go through before the first krills?

[tired bone]

No I just think it works best the taller you are cause my friends went through there the day of the update

[shadow spire]

tried running eden, can confirm rocks were horrific

didn't make it to last 3

i think chibi is better for eden running now though

[stark lodge]

Elder masks too?

[shadow spire]

i got oneshot by a rock that broke my mask even before reaching pnr

but im not sure if masks make that much of a difference

my friend went with a mask and made it just barely past me

[stark lodge]

That is normal before PNR.

Rocks before PNR are 10x stronger.

[shadow spire]

no the pnr rocks are also strong now

i was consistently getting oneshot by rocks that used to just glance off me

[stark lodge]

I haven't gone in after the patch so I wouldn't know. Should I just go in with just my wing buffs and help other Sky kids along the way?

[coral glacier]

i cant believe theyre finally gonna make me wear that mask

[shadow spire]

i mean if you want to then yeah

[stark lodge]

I'll get my buffs back anyways but it's cutting close to my bedtime unfortunately.

[shadow spire]

ngl, while the new rock they added helps, it also kinda traps you with the rocks

[stark lodge]

Well, at least when I take my meds anyways.

[coral glacier]

for vocal feedbacking? yes, i would go in with a group and see how well you fare in the area past the group of three statues, and in the area past the last torch

[shadow spire]

oh yeah def sleep first!

eden will still be there when you wake up XD

[stark lodge]

I will go in alone with strangers.

If I'm lucky enough.

[coral glacier]

it's the weekend, there aren't any changes coming soon

[jolly perch]

i can't log on and i'm curious, how's the eden server splitting going after the update? better or worse?

[shadow spire]

the original server splitting was originally caused by the a/b door testing

that's been fixed, although there's been general server split issues recently so it's been eh

i just went in and it was fine though

if anyone does get a perfect run though, how many wl did you go in with?

[coral glacier]

I'm going to be recording my next live run in its entirety if possible.

[torn monolith]

I'm REALLY tall and can't get through tho-

[tired bone]

Idk it only works when you tall or if you are short I got it to work once but it took ten mins while short lmao so idk

[torn monolith]

So they 100% changed it then

'Cause in the past, I never had any problem whatsoever to go through regardless of height

Not even joking, but this is really annoying
I understand the changes to make the rocks harder, but going through the krills every week cuts through my sanity more than pnc

[shadow spire]

if you're chibi, go down the wall a bit further to the left, there's a slightly bigger crack that you can chibi fall though

alternatively, to avoid the cracks overall, you can just fly up once you exit the door into the second part

[tired bone]

They didn’t change it although keep in mind there is two cracks in the wall that have been used before so

One was for chibi the other you just be normal or talk height and jump through

[torn monolith]

Yea, I tried both of them

I've only went through the biggest(like, in general before the update)

[stark lodge]

Okay guys, your Eden enthusiast just died rescuing lots of Sky children before death and I made it just barely past the sand dune. I got pushed back a LOT. Was not a big fan despite my Sky kid speeding rapidly through the field randomly and yeah. It was not good.

I will post videos soon when I'm done through rebirth.

Okay well, ONE video because the recording didn't capture my Sky kid getting flung back.

Have this instead.

My Sky kid got knocked back so much they kinda forgot to do the whole "oh jeez, I'm ded" animation.

[shadow spire]

kajshfalkjga same

i got a video of myself being knocked back once i realized it was a lost cause anyway

[stark lodge]

I don't know how I'm expected to do this next reset now with 200+ winged light once I get them back.

[shadow spire]

i'm probably not even going to bother trying to get to the end

just gonna aim for 60 statues until it gets fixed

[stark lodge]

Yeah I love that you no longer crawl until 10 WL but like, at what cost?

[shadow spire]

at the cost of perfect runs o(-<

i really wanted to try some fun eden challenges with this update since i thought eden would be easier, but i guess it's impossible now

[coral glacier]

LOOOOOOL the freeze at the end is so good, i'm sorry
the player character in utter disbelief at what they just witnessed

[placid lava]

the AMOUNT OF TIME im getting KNOCK out as I stand up- like It aint giving me a choice to even stand up for a seconds 😭

[dawn fable]

Um it seems that now its imposible to get the last petrified kids

[trim grotto]

i definitely got lucky at some bits but i did reach the end statue coming in with 164 winged light and the isle elder mask
didnt get a perfect run though, i missed clicking one of the statues somehow 💀

[slow depot]

That’s impressive even by the standards of before this update was rolled out @@ I didn’t get the last statues either and brought an elder mask along

[thin current]

I forgot that I'd already been through Eden once this week and cleared it out 😭😭😭😭 I only got 3 lights I didn't even get a candle this time

[lament cave]

i love the idea of being able to walk for longer but also i think i just spent 100wl lying on the ground lol

i hope the update will be tweaked a bit, it's great in concept but not great in play yet

[frank shoal]

Just did the new eden and got pinned under the new last rock- lost over 30 winglight for it and couldn't even light the last fire. This is worse. The more damage I can take, but whats the point of standing if im just going to lay down and not run from flying rocks

[dense pollen]

!edenresetwhen

!er

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708848000:F> (In 1 day 1 hour 20 minutes 32 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[stone radish]

glad to see others came here to talk about the knockback 😭😭 I did an eden run with my friends thinking it would be so much easier!! I had 155 winged light and I didn't even make it to the hill bc I kept getting knocked back :v it was nice not crawling everytime you died but the knock back was INSANE

[willow cradle]

Has anyone else noticed there’s also a more consistent flow of rocks

There’s somehow even more rocks/crystals falling

[languid thorn]

just went myself, i'm glad they calmed down the wind at the very entrance of the realm because there was no good reason to making those steps so difficult to hop on
what i was less stocked about, (and as i feared reading the news) is the return of everyone's favourite feature. Relentless knockback.

To be fair, I managed to reach the very last leg of the statue grind in record time thanks to the improvements to movement and with 150+ but then proceeded to get stunlocked for literally 20 seconds right after passing the new arch. Baffling. 😔

The rocks do seem to fall more consistently at that section, which did play a big role in knocking me down consistently. Ah well...

[obsidian sequoia]

just went myself and i went in with 155 winglights and normally witz that amount i can get to the last statue or atleast near it. not today... i also got knocked down constantly for about 15 -25 seconds after going through the last stone archway.. love the fact that the stones give more protection but the storm in the last section is just..frustrating.

im a player that actually enjoys eden but this is no fun anymore :/

[willow cradle]

Exactly, I have 180 singled light usually- and make it to the centre of the lake with 15-20 to spare. This time I was barely able to make it to the top of the hill before the lake. I loved going to Eden but these “improvements” seem to have made everything worse. Except the wind. Don’t miss that

I honestly preferred the crawling over this sh-

[pearl fossil]

i don’t wanna go to eden anymore

[formal mesa]

Might wanna edit your message to take out the almost-swear, don't want mods to think you're evading the swear filter

But as someone who has only known the crawling, I think this is a welcome change that still needs some work. They've acknowledged the stunlocking thing as a known issue, thankfully, so hopefully they'll continue to improve these changes over time

[stark lodge]

It also might be worth putting it in #live-feedback.

[slate axle]

well that was pretty miserable!
did an eden run and kept falling over, unable to move or do anything until my skykid slowly got back up, only to be knocked over again.

[verbal creek]

this is a weird eden run. i lost so much wing light in places i was previously pretty okay at.

i had 200 wl and now i couldnt even get to last part/hill to see the last statue.

[dire wasp]

I went to Eden with a friend and the experience was awful, I don't like this change. I guess I'll have to adapt to harder Eden experience

[lavish crater]

Hi, gamers. A friend also dragged me through Eden yesterday (first-timer, even though I did that, I’m still very much a moth, lol), she’s played for years and did admirably, despite the changes. I’m curious as to how it was before the changes, though. Are those rocks always so relentless?

[velvet yoke]

To give you an idea, normally I take maybe 180 in and that’s enough to get me to the last statue with 40 wings or so to spare. Tried it yesterday and I didn’t even get the last two statues because I was getting hit so much I couldn’t even see which direction I was supposed to be going in, let alone where they were. I couldn’t move.
This change feels partially like a needed one that’s all of out proportion currently; it was too easy before and this is an over correction. But it also very much feels like they’re trying to avoid the probably necessary fact that they probably do need to add another section of statues to Eden or a part 2 with something else instead; no matter how much they play around with the rest, there’s going to come a time where adding more makes sense and I think it’s pretty close to it now already. It’s 5 years old and there’s over 220 wings available and that number will only continue to grow

[subtle canyon]

yall make me scared to go to the eden tomorrow

[stark lodge]

Are you asking or just saying?

[raw badge]

Welp, back to not touching Eden and relying on shards for a while.

[warm sparrow]

im gonna go in with about 85 tomorrow to see if theres any difference for people with lower than the 100 range i was in i did right after the patch

I expect not to get far but we'll see LOL

[lavish crater]

I went in with about 37 with the friend who had 200 pain

(I did pretty alright, but yeah, I was curious as to if that experience was intended! Annnnd, it looks like nah!)

[coral glacier]

I recorded yesterday’s run.
I didn’t get stunlocked past the last torch (shortest non chibi height) but was instead trapped behind a wall of wind around the last statue for 30+ seconds and bleeding out. You could not strafe or move around this wall. Attempting to push through it moved you backwards. Because the rocks are more dense, there are more bright clusters of particle effects and it was difficult to see the statue objectives on the dark background. With 214 wings entry I reached the last statue with 6 and died less than 5 seconds later. It was awful. It was not a positive form of anxiety or dread because there was still no control over the character’s forward movement despite not being stunlocked. It’s something that only breeds frustration and negative anxiety after reaching this point after a week or more of waiting. There is a feeling that you won’t reach all of the statues that you were used to saving no matter how well you perform or how many wings you enter with. If this is intended, the design is astonishing and needed to be reviewed and revised more. I’ll try uploading what happened later because I have to clip it from a hour+ video on my PC.

[zenith gull]

I got stuck in a similar place and my height is also very short (non chibi). It was a bad experience

[quasi sigil]

yeah sheesh this was so hard and not in a fun and challenging way. Legit the later areas there was no breaks in the rocks for me to get through and I kept getting stun locked so it was extremely frustrating.

[orchid willow]

Just happened me, I should've read about people having this issue. Eden was a NIGHTMARE.

[cursive coral]

i finally completed all constellations

[fiery citrus]

hi guys, what is stunlocked?

i've never experience it before

[torn veldt]

I'm not 100% sure but I think it's when you get knocked over, and you can't seem to get up or even move at all, you're "stunned" or like, "paralyzed"

[narrow cove]

i had the same problem lol

[coral glacier]

^ Being stunlocked is when the player cannot move forward and is still vulnerable to damage for an extended period of time.

[fiery citrus]

aside from that, will i be able to complete even if i fail and have acs?

[torn veldt]

you should still be able to compelte eden really! It jsur becomes a hinderance when youre tryign to get the last statues lol

so it may make it harder to get the statues = less AC possibly

[fiery citrus]

well.. i've never had the chance to touch the last 3 statues tho

so aside from getting more dmg and most likely crawling harder than before, eden is fine right?

[spark inlet]

I see that you have the same problem as me. The rocks now has more accuracy after 0.24 update

[torn veldt]

you can still complete it really :D So otherwise, other than it being a lot harder, it's fine!

[fiery citrus]

great, lets gamble my skykid life

[vital linden]

"A lot harder" I was going to go but I think I'll wait

[torn veldt]

DWWW it's mainly just after the new arch!!! PLUS it'll reset tomorrow anyways :D

[snow sable]

i havent gone yet but i know im going to miss the crawling, i really enjoyed the narrative feel of desperation that it gave to the experience. really made it feel like a sacrifice

[zinc dome]

175 winged lights all gone just beginning of the second area ………… I hate that new update of Eden. .. the red rocks are non stop hating me to death….

[fiery citrus]

i'll go to eden today, no matter the cost is, i'll spend my candles to buy instant recharge with me, i need acs, no matter what the cost, i need acs!!!!!!!

( probably not that much but.. you know how it feels when you failed your resize )

[vestal turtle]

It wasn’t too bad, just got really annoying at the end because you get stuck in a loop of getting up and getting knocked back down lol

[rare ermine]

so i guess getting stunlocked is mostly a problem for that one last section? huh

[fiery citrus]

i can do it, i have my sheer will with me

[quasi plaza]

So guys, if I completed the statues, what would happen in the end? Would the end be the same as how I finish it (but failed to complete)?

[wind raft]

So basically the rocks hitbox was buffed after the update? Man ig chibi will come in handy

[shadow spire]

the rocks are now more accurate and do more damage upon hitting you

[coral glacier]

Being smaller does not generally help against the rock hitbox because it is not the rock hitbox that changed drastically. The rocks are instead more dense and the player spends too much time being vulnerable.
However, player size may be linked to how you’re affected by wind knockback/stunlocking(?)

[shadow spire]

I do think the changes made to wind in eden helped mitigate the size difference

i ran part of eden at my normal size (which is above average) and part as chibi (with a spell) and it was about the same, if not chibi seemed to get hit just a little less

(not that it mattered at the end with the stunlock anyway)

[atomic stone]

wait really? player size matter with the wind knockback?

[coral glacier]

Players who are tall/tallest seem to complain more often of being constantly stuck in stunlock (being vulnerable while an inescapable animation plays repeatedly). However this may be construed with the same players jumping or even just walking forward in the wind and then getting stunlocked.

[wind raft]

Ah i see now ty for pointing out as i haven't been able to go eden myself

[atomic stone]

i went to eden yesterday and i jumped around quite a lot actually but it seems fine for me, i guess i got lucky

[coral glacier]

It may be that taking damage while being blown by the wind is what worsens or even causes stunlock. It needs to be tested especially by development.

[atomic stone]

ahh i see i see, thank you!

[coral glacier]

I’m not 100% sure or factual, because it’s all information gathered by reading bug reports and seeing footage of the changes.
It’s an evolving issue and needs more player feedback and evidence.

[atomic stone]

hmm okay but thanks for the information 👍

can i ask when does eden reset? i am still confused with the eden reset timing

[coral glacier]

!er Eden always resets between Saturday and Sunday server time, or their 12 AM.

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708848000:F> (In 2 hours 41 minutes 59 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[atomic stone]

oh! thank you very much i appreciate it!

[velvet yoke]

It’s the same, the ending is not different. It’s just whether you receive 15.75 ascended candles in orbit if you complete it all, or if you receive less

[quasi plaza]

That's a bit disappointing xx

[fiery citrus]

so.. just to clarify, can we at our least got 10 acs?

or worse?, by all means

[velvet yoke]

I understand. This game isn’t like other games where there is a pass/fail metric though (these tend to increase frustration and negative feelings and mean people generally don’t try, or start to avoid them), the game is designed so it doesn’t matter if you’re perfect, but rather that you keep trying and increasing your skills
Tl;dr: it’s about the journey

[quasi plaza]

Well I just get a bit disappointed because I collected 91 wls now and receiving 10 acs (for example) doesn't seem fulfilling. And I expected a different ending somehow.

[coral glacier]

To earn 10 ascended candles, you need to save 40 statues, or about 2/3 of the statues in Eden.
If you enter Eden with others who will help you when you become extinguished, you should be able to earn the same amount of candles that you did before.

[quasi plaza]

Like an alternate ending thingy

[fiery citrus]

leave out the last part, im going to take that as a solo player, i'll and going to be yeeted by our new eden, right?

[velvet yoke]

Your 10 ACs can still be used to unlock 5 wing buffs or more, or can be used for the returning group spirit visit arriving soon. The reward is still very useful

[quasi plaza]

Last time, I received 12 acs and I think it's the most I got so I saved more than 40?

[coral glacier]

Each statue you save rewards 0.25 candles, so you saved 48.

[quasi plaza]

Oh wow that's pretty close I think I had 70 something candles before entering and some of them got wasted by being hit by a rock lol

[velvet yoke]

Yeah tbh Elder masks and the fire recharge props are now more valuable in a group when in Eden due to the changes. Going with others (a group of around 5) is now the much better option

[coral glacier]

The new eden update is very unforgiving for solo players due to chip damage being more prevalent, as well as stunlocking. If you get extinguished at bad spot you will need to use a spell to relight yourself.

[atomic stone]

returning group spirit, what is that?? is it like the traveling spirit? (sorry i am still new)

[fiery citrus]

group of 4, yes

[velvet yoke]

Yes. Except four are coming at once and staying for a week or two. It’s particularly useful if you haven’t been playing very long, you should be able to at least unlock all their wing buffs and then just get what you want from the spirits you’re most interested in. But it’s wise to save up cause usually it can drain your entire candle stash
From memory last time it cost about 1200+ candles to get everything and 40+ or so hearts

[coral glacier]

Yes, it is a system where multiple spirits will return at once. The four spirits are arriving March 4th.

[quasi plaza]

That's really sad. I tend to help people at eden even strangers lol x.x

[fiery citrus]

im willing to sacred my candles for acs, i've got nothing left to lose further more

[quasi plaza]

I was thinking of farming acs by just entering 20 wls now that I know about the equivalents of how much candles you can get by saving statues, I changed my mind lmao.

[fiery citrus]

so 5 normal candles will give me 2 instant recharge potions, i'll get about 6 of them, i'll conquer the new eden myself (or not, idk, i hope to)

[atomic stone]

thanks for the help guys, i appreciate it! i should have saved those acs for those returning spirit instead

[glad lotus]

each wing buff for returning spirit/travelling spirit costs 2 AC, and eden is going to reset in about 3 hours, i believe that you still have time to get some ACs

[atomic stone]

yup! thank you! i am going to eden again after it reset 🙏🏻

[somber kestrel]

when are the returning spirits even returning?

[atomic stone]

March 4th

[somber kestrel]

i mean it that time u could easily do eden twice so u dont gotta worry abt acs that much

[atomic stone]

yeah i just realized 😅 i am still new so the timing is still kinda confusing for me, though i understand now which is good 👍🏻

[coral glacier]

prediction: it’s going to get busy in here after server rollover
if i’m wrong i’ll go to pnr with 20 wings

[karmic hornet]

for eden how many ac do you get for each statue you light up?

[coral glacier]

You earn 0.25 of an ascended candle for each statue you save.
There are 63 statues, so 15.75 is the weekly Eden maximum.

[outer oyster]

!er

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1708848000:F> (In 15 minutes 4 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[coral glacier]

i reviewed my footage and it took over 100 seconds to walk from the second to last statue to the last statue because of the wind in PNR…
good luck out there this week soldiers and don’t jump when you’re past the last torch

[cursive coral]

now that i have every elder hair, should i start going for the elder masks?

[coral glacier]

If you have enough ascended candles saved away for the traveling spirits, friends and spells that you want, then you could.

At this point in development for Eden, it may be highly beneficial to get a mask. But since they all function the same(?), you may want to get the cheapest (Prairie, 75) if you are only interested in function over appearance.
Otherwise it’s entirely up to you what you do with your candles.

[weary yoke]

what's the function of elder mask?

[knotty plover]

I just... didn't I just answer that question @pearl fossil?

[fiery citrus]

my answer is no, huge no!!!

thats all i have to say

[sour sun]

Elder masks provide protection from rocks, crabs, and krill. Each one can take a few hits from rocks/crabs before breaking, and 1 hit from a krill before breaking.

[rough comet]

then you have to meditate at the temple of the elder whose mask you obtained to recharge/fix it

[sour sun]

you can recharge it in orbit as well

[slow lantern]

I hate to say I hate the new Eden update because it seems like whenever you get hit by the rocks all you're doing is falling and not getting back up when you get past the point where there's no more statues it was easier before the update I didn't get as far as I used to and that's frustrating cuz I was just falling most the time and I wasn't even like going forward I spent most of my time getting back up then distributing my winged light 😭

[fiery citrus]

+1

[visual hollow]

the way to the orbit is shaken or just me

[upper monolith]

Well, I went into Eden's pnr with a friend to do our weekly ascencion, thinking it would be easier by the update
It was not easier.

I had things set up for all 63 statues, yet I coudn't get the ones past the sand because I got stunlocked for a minute until I was below 10 wl 💀

[stone thicket]

Wow I wasn’t expecting Eden to be this worst, I was flabbergasted I couldn’t move for a solid 2 min because I kept getting stunt by rock and died like that omg getting up on your feet take so much time and you cant move during it 👺

[west hound]

It showed no mercy at our wl(Can't even go near the Hill before getting pummeled to death by rouks)

[flat moth]

That’s in the list of known issues. Should be fixed at some point

[celest badger]

I couldn't even move past the place where barely any cover is, it's so difficult I hate it

Eden is so much worse now since the update

[queen needle]

This was wayyyy too difficult now
I’m glad they made it so you’re not immediately crawling but 1 hit and you’re forced down too much and constantly being pelted by rocks so there’s no way to even save yourself or regain light fast enough
This was the shortest distance I’ve gotten in a long time

[celest badger]

Definitely, I barely got past the sand dune

[olive ginkgo]

yeah, the amount of times you get hit by the rocks vs how slow it takes you to get back on your feet makes it really hard sadly

do really like the new feature of being able to walk normally until you get down on winged lights though

[queen needle]

Same here ☹️ I ran out right before the sand dune and died halfway up the incline

[celest badger]

I hate this update, it really sucks

[short peak]

truly love it that when i went to before the pnr and went home, when i logged back in i was in pnr goodbye my precious wings

[tender hound]

question
when does Eden reset for greece?
GMT+2

[queen needle]

!er

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1709452800:F> (In 6 days 15 hours 48 minutes 24 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[tender hound]

omgosh bot

[queen needle]

The reset time should be in your time, I’m also pretty sure every server resets at the same time
I’m GMT+1 so not too far off

[tender hound]

oki good good ty

[native swallow]

Guys did wha happen to eden pleas someone explain to me i am so missinformed

[celest badger]

Basically the update on eden makes it so that you get up after getting hit instead of crawling instantly but if you get hit once you instantly get hit 10 more times to the point you can't get up

[native swallow]

oh bruh

[celest badger]

What

[queen needle]

New Eden update
You can now keep running while out of light but now there’s wayyy more rocks and recovery time is longer

[wicked sonnet]

Help im going to do eden for the first time now...

[humble mist]

just a small video of how my eden trip went :)

[silent matrix]

so real 💀💀💀💀

the rocks does more damage than krills

[celest badger]

Fr

[silent matrix]

It’s only possible to get ac once a week right?

but will my winged light will increase even if I go into Eden more than one time in a week?

[tired vine]

You can only give a wing to each stature once in a week, but you can go again and get statues you missed if you want

[silent matrix]

OHH

okay thanks 🤡🤡

[formal mesa]

If you bought WBs during the week, yes. Otherwise no

[tired vine]

The wings you pick up after Eden depend on the count of wing buffs (WB) you bought, not on how often you did Eden

[queen needle]

Literally the rocks are INSANE this update
I was playing with my bf, watched him say “ok im going for it” not even fully out of the shelter he lost all light

[torn monolith]

Just went through my first pnr after the update
Dude.

[torn monolith]

I was getting THROWN BACK because of the stupid density of rocks

Like, I couldn't walk. It's not because I was on the ground, I LITERALLY couldn't walk because of the amount of rocks hitting me by the second

Each rock would halt me a bit, so much that I spent like a whole minute trying to walk 3 steps
I'm baffled

[silent matrix]

OH

[queen needle]

The sheer amount of rocks made it really hard for me to see anything up ahead too even outside the last shelter there’s just so much they drown out everything else if you’re not right next to it

[torn monolith]

Frr, I could hardly see anything

I was able to get every statue tho at least
It was just far more infuriating

[queen needle]

I could only make it to the sand ☹️

[twin stag]

I completed a full Eden run with 175 WL and an elder shield as chibi but it was definitely much worse than usual

[torn monolith]

I went with 170, but used a small spell and no elder mask(yet)

[twin stag]

And a friend I went with Blade whose video you can see up there^ who suffered much more

[queen needle]

I had 134 WL, and was in a group and even used a spell at one point, by the time I had gotten halfway I was down to the 40s because it’s impossible not to constantly get pelted by rocks going from statue to statue

[torn monolith]

I just wait for the waves

There's moments where the rocks don't fall as much, so I go from statue to statue in that moment (which makes me not lose any wl up until then)
But after the arch, it's nonstop

[weary yoke]

hi, what are the changes in eden? can someone explain it to me in simple terms

[warm sparrow]

the wind is less strong and getting bonked in the head by rocks doesn't set you to crawling, and some spots have better cover now

but currently since you don't crawl, getting bonked by rocks knocks you down, which in the final part of eden can chain hits in a way that prevents you from moving

[warm sparrow]

to kinda give an example of the wind nerfs, it used to be pretty hard to fly up this cliff with 5 wings, but its now possible to do it with 3.

[weary yoke]

so after getting bonked, u can't get up? like it will take time and in the final part u don't get the extra time cuz the rocks just keep falling down

[warm sparrow]

you can get up, but its kindof an animation where you have to stand up before you can walk, and you can get bonked again

[fringe oar]

So is this the club of eden where we worship all powerful darkness.where do I sign

[warm sparrow]

just past the final statue

[weary yoke]

this is very cool omg you're so good at it

[fringe oar]

Already did that.the great God eden asked to go to sky discord and meet it's followers

[warm sparrow]

its not exactly useful to do it in 3, but its pretty fun to try and get there in the least wings possible

looked like this pre-patch quite a lot harder lol

[weary yoke]

no need for it to be useful, it's much more fun to do cool stuff and it's v impressive

i wanna do it someday too!!

[warm sparrow]

flying up that cliff is a good time saver atleast, heh

you can get most of the statues before the last segment perfectly fine ( even somewhat easier ) which i think is like 70 or 80% of them?

past statue 49 is the part where its constant and kinda stunlocks you, yeah. so 49/63 statues are relatively normal, with a changed wind and getting bonked by rocks earlier now wont set you into a crawl

so its easier to recover if you mistime a rock rain

yeah, there are 63 statues, and you can get 49 and some above without ever taking damage

its that last segment which is constant damage that you need more

before the patch, i'd go in with 90 or below, and be able to get up to statue 59 or 60 usually

[weary yoke]

ok im back, how is it better if you're doing eden with someone else now? do u hold hands with them to make it work?

[warm sparrow]

after patch my first eden run with 101 winged light, struggled to get to 57 lol

[weary yoke]

like I heard someone say it's harder for solo players

[flat moth]

I was able to get 14 candles this time around

Not my usual 15 but I'm glad the rocks didnt kill my run

[warm sparrow]

I think they made it easier to light people up who were hit by rocks and had their flame knocked out. before the final section there are a few pretty mean spots which you can pretty easiliy mistime and get your flame extinguised, which means you wont be able to light the flames in front of you to heal
if another player makes it to you without taking too much damage, they can heal you

If you're totally solo, and stuck in cover somewhere with your candle blown out, your only choice is to crawl forward and hope you can crab some more statues, or crawl back potentially through rocks and whatnot and take more damage to heal.
but, since the crawling wont take you til you get down to 10 wings... its probably easier to solo now too, actually

[weary yoke]

ooh okok thank u

[warm sparrow]

I just made it to PNR and im gonna go in with just under 90 wings and solo, so i'll see how bad it is again LOL

[queen needle]

It’s worth it, I got 13 candles from it
Just be ready to go in a group and get frustrated

[warm sparrow]

tried to jump through the rocks under 20 wings, and forgot thats when it starts to not let you jump anymore, and earlier on i made a couple mistakes which cost me some wings
but most i was getting there was maybe 1 more lol

unfortunately i've not managed to bring the mask to the end before it breaks this patch yet

13.75

[stark lodge]

Debating heavily going in now that I have all my wings (minus trials and shard memories) just to see how far I can make it. 215 winged light and a dream, last time I made it past the dune on like 108 (-2 from getting the statues I missed) so 106.

And that was mainly my wing buffs. I just entered to help others.

I don't know, my friend is telling me it's not worth it. But I really want to see how far I can get.

[warm sparrow]

i dunno, you could probably get somewhere between 14/15 which is still a pretty good eden run all things considered

[stark lodge]

Yeah, I know. And I could just enter again to see if I can even try to make it to those last statues. Granted, it's possible.

[rough wharf]

I missed last statue (

[stark lodge]

Big oof.

[rough wharf]

When i was at last 2 I’ve tried everything

Walking makes you 2 steps back after 1 forward

Jumping knocks 5 wings at once

When i finally was at last 10 wings i started crawling and it helped a lot but

The moment i get close to last kid i was left with 4 wings

And next rock knocked it all at once

It may sound funny but i liked more when i was crawling all the way down on previous builds

[coarse pilot]

Tried eden after the new patch, and I haven't done that bad since my moth days.... I started loosing wl in the first part, jumping felt off and it looks like I'll have to completely relearn how to do it efficiently
I preferred crawling, the hit-lay down takes so much time and it made me more likely to be hit immediately after
Didn't get over the hill with this patch, while normally I'd light up all statues with 30wl to spare
It's not the end of the world, but I liked the old mechanics better

What I actually liked tho, I feel like the statues are more likely to be lit, even the grouped ones, even without spamming the flame button

[coral glacier]

Hello, PSA to not jump once you are past the last torch or you will be knocked over by the wind and increase your chances of being stunlocked.

The common trend I’m seeing across people being stunlocked in the ending section is that they all jump, and their player characters do the animation for getting blown back by wind before they get hit. Players that jump instead of walking get pushed back by wind more often as well.

[hardy bough]

I like the new Eden changes that kill you WAY faster, only issue I have is the stunlock

[coral glacier]

If you walk and don’t press the jump button, you may have more success getting around the wind wall next to the last few statues.

[hardy bough]

Wait they put a wind wall?

[coral glacier]

It’s not the impassable type that is used to keep people out of levels, but it is very strong. It’s about the same amount of wind present in Air Trial.

[hardy bough]

Okay so it’s the one to punish jumping

The shard stunlock though… my god

It’s pre shattering again except it seems like invulnerability time seems shorter

[coral glacier]

Basically, I believe they increased the wind pressure in Eden PNR too much and the stunlocking, difficulty to reach the last 1-2 statues and get over the sandbar, and sudden amount of players overshooting their jump in the first section are the results.

[hardy bough]

It seems though the actual duration between when you can lose WL was shortened a lot

[coral glacier]

I’m unsure and would need a lot of video evidence of people in the third section of PNR to see if the vulnerability time or rock density has decreased.
I still believe it’s rock density that causes the illusion that vulnerability time has decreased, but it needs more evidence.

[hardy bough]

I think you may be correct on that

Cause the pattern is definitely not the same

Still, I love the changes to Eden to be WAY more brutal

[tired vine]

Could it be that if you jump with between 10 and 20 wl, you get blown back if you’re small or stunlocked if you’re tall?

[coral glacier]

Increasing rock density in order to deplete player wings faster may be the development oversight that is cluttering players’ screens in the last section as well and making it too hard to see the terrain through the particles.

[hardy bough]

It’s not that difficult to see… I could see all the statues

[coral glacier]

It’s become more of a blind judgement on which direction to walk for the last three statues in the water unless your camera is constantly panned upwards.

[hardy bough]

That seems fitting for that part tbh…

It’s 3 statues in basically the last area

I still prefer this version of Eden over me sitting next to the shard with 80-100 WL slowly dying

[fickle reef]

I personally think it's too difficult. I like the idea that the wind is strongest in the third part but I agree that it's a bit too much.

[coral glacier]

The physics should only change once you drop to 10, and that’s when you start crawling.
Otherwise the amount of wings you have should not affect knockback physics, only how many wings you drop per hit. The more wings you enter PNR with, the more you drop consistently.
It may be that stunlocking or being blown back is more or less likely on different avatar sizes, due to the way the wind and rock hitboxes are interacting. But the root cause is likely the wind pressure.

[serene flare]

I heard the shocked down by wind and rocks was a side effect so the dev will fix it

[coral glacier]

It’s not properly balanced and likely an oversight in development, so changes need to be made. The changes to Eden only went through a few major iterations before being launched and likely did not have enough time or critical eyes on them.

[hardy bough]

It’s a step in the right direction though

Eden should not be as lenient the further you get into the storm

[fickle reef]

Yeah but it should also be possible.

[hardy bough]

Yea that’s the issue, I like the scaling but the difficulty goes insanely high at the end

Which if the wind is the issue, literally be fixed soon

[hardy bough]

I do wish the scaling was dynamic though for losing WLs. It doesn’t seem to really be as consistent as I though

Cause it goes from losing 5 until I hit around 20, which I start losing around 2-3

[coral glacier]

I believe it’s (damage scaling) implemented so that in a group setting, there aren’t as many runaway players in terms of how far of a distance they go.
Unless you have an elder mask on, which I think is disregarded and messes up the game math.

[hardy bough]

Oh rip the elder mask for cheesing the last part

[serene flare]

I lost 13 wl at once at the first part not also normal

[hardy bough]

It breaks instantly pretty much at that part

[coral glacier]

Oh. Then it is 👎 boowomp? Nevermind on mask boosting in regards to this update.

[hardy bough]

Mask boosting?

[coral glacier]

Using the mask to get you and other players farther in the very last section.

[fickle reef]

Yeah mine broke at like the 3rd statue in endless. Previously it lasted until the dune.

[hardy bough]

Tbh it breaking in the deadzone faster is fine. It’s the deadzone

I do hope though more stuff for ascended candles is added

Sitting on 753 of them

[fickle reef]

Yeah I'm at like 850 rn

[hardy bough]

Tier 3 blessings for the meme

[fickle reef]

Saving for the likely insane prices of the other elder masks whenever they get added in lol

[hardy bough]

I don’t know if the devs wanna give more items with “powers”

Shields are already pretty good

[hardy bough]

Also I don’t think they wear masks…

So I’m not sure if blessing shields will be given to them ever…

[stark lodge]

I legit need a reason to continue to visit Eden other than just rescuing other players and the addition of other Elder masks would greatly boost my visits to Eden.

[hardy bough]

I mean some people buy spells with their ascended…

[stark lodge]

Resizes? I got the height I wanted. No point.

Lantern spells? I have the permanent version. Event currency? I can just buy with regular candles. Rainbow? No point. Bonfire spell? Again, not really worth it. Anything else?

[hardy bough]

This the issue, a lot of the spells I don’t see a reason to spend ascended for, even ones for the broken campfire item

[stark lodge]

Yup, hence why the addition of more Elder masks would be a incentive to invest in.

[hardy bough]

Part of me kinda hopes old ultimates can be earned through them

[stark lodge]

No, that would really not work well with those who paid for it.

[flint flower]

the way i just did eden and lost 20 wl before the hill with the last statues

and died right there. :/

[hardy bough]

Welcome to the Eden stunlock

[flint flower]

sucks all the joy and fun out of eden

[hardy bough]

They’ve already addressed the issue (like are aware of it)

[hardy bough]

Would it really though? I mean. If you pay like 500-1000 ascended for one of the ultimates, that seems kinda fair for that amount of work.

[stark lodge]

I mean, there are old fossils that by now have at least 2k ascended candles just waiting to be used up.

[hardy bough]

Yea but that’s over like 4 years…

[stark lodge]

There's just no winning honestly in this situation.

[hardy bough]

I guess

Not sure how else they could make Eden running weekly more worth it

[hot terrace]

so my comment on the new "experience": I saw it working for a moment, get hit occasionally, then jump ahead, evening out in about the same progress done over time

but then it was just "nah, you aint moving anymore", losing 30 lights just standing there

[stark lodge]

I'm sure they will think of something.

[hot terrace]

getting, up, then during getting up seeing your animation glitch to hell and just stay in an endless loop of attempting to get up and "falling" 😂

i dont know how this could have passed qa, other than insane luck that it didnt happen in their many, many test runs (i would hope?)

[stark lodge]

Well it was perfect when it was tested in the first build of beta, then it just... got bad.

[coral glacier]

DONT JUMP!!! IT’S THE WIND!!! you’ll get stuck in the knocked-back-in-midair animation (looks like your character is pinwheeling) and then get hit by rocks and get stuck in the getting-up-from-wind animation too

[inner flume]

I just did Eden recently and the stunlocking at the constant rock rain was a pain
I hope they fix it by adding some invulnerability for a few seconds after you get up or prevent the falling animation in the last part somehow

[verbal trench]

Made it through without getting stun locked, not as far as I would usually but no matter. In the following flight sequence through the crumbling city I got stuck in the fallen tower for like fifteen minutes trapped between the ceiling and the updraft until I was lucky enough to get thrust back out a window. Dunno why the whale didn’t turn up to smash it, but I did get launched out the top of the cloud ceiling by a king jellyfish and bobbed around for a while trying to find the route again so maybe the whale timing was off and it spawned before the tower fell…

[worldly creek]

OMG IT’S SO ANNOYING THAT WE LAY DOWN WHEN WE GET HIT BY ROCKS AND THEN STUMBLE BACK DOWN WHEN WE TRY TO MOVE!!!

I was stuck in ONE SPOT for a good 2 minutes cuz my skid WOULD NOT stand back up!!

[hot terrace]

check mine 😂

that was horrible

[worldly creek]

Oh noooo

[hot terrace]

i was actually seeing the new idea on how eden is suposed to go, you get hit, then you get up and run ahead, get hit down again... averaging out to the same progress that you did while crawling... but currently, some people seem to just get their entire progress stopped

[coral glacier]

i can’t send my footage of everything past the last statue because it’s too long so I put it in the promote channel, but like I keep saying, you can’t jump or your character will immediately be knocked down by the wind pressure like it is in your clip

[hot terrace]

i tried with jumping, without jumping, nothing really worked

[coral glacier]

do you get stunlocked when walking?

[hot terrace]

well i tried to walk in the video

but before i really got up i already fell ahain

[coral glacier]

yes, there’s a wind wall there that you have to start walking through from the start because the pressure is too high. if you get knocked down, you’re unlikely to be able to push through it at all. you’ll get stuck in the animation loop.

[hot terrace]

oh yeah i saw that, i was being pushed back in tiny increments

i didnt even know if it was the rocks or wind

[coral glacier]

the rocks and wind are.. uh, what’s the word, they’re accelerating each other’s negative effects

[hot terrace]

compunding

[coral glacier]

yea

[stark lodge]

I haven't gone in with all my winged lights yet but here's me going in with just my wing buffs.

...yeah, my Sky kid didn't register death.

[coral glacier]

for context, walking from statue 62 to 63 took me about 2 minutes of pushing through a wind wall

[hot terrace]

you had 2 minutes to get through there? i went into the last flame with 110 wl

[coral glacier]

i would send my video but i can’t, may i message you?

[hot terrace]

and i still didnt make it even remotely there because i was literally losing wl twice in like a second haha

[stark lodge]

I'm convinced that what I'm seeing from others who got to the dune and through the last statues is that TGC put a wind wall there for no reason.

[hot terrace]

sure

[coral glacier]

i think it’s a design oversight because the wind was a late feature in the development cycle

[stark lodge]

And honestly I've heard some make it to the last statue, too.

[hot terrace]

i kinda want to ask if this was even tested

[coral glacier]

i went through about 5 weeks of beta testing and 4 major iterations (?), but i’m not a beta tester so i only get my information from backreading all the channels every day

[hot terrace]

well as a developer i wanna add my personal opinion

i think if something is busted for an amount of people, it's busted, even if those people aren't 100% of people...

wind and such always had a random component to it in this game, the physics rarely decide the same thing in similar situations, so I believe fully that people have made it through

[stark lodge]

It was tested, at least in beta it was. But like this current one was tested too, in the first iteration of the Eden changes, it was perfect. But then they added a rock arch and that's when it got bad.

[worldly creek]

I have funny quotes from today’s trip-

[hot terrace]

but... in the current iteration... people must have been making feedback like "don't put this live", it seems to have a really big variance between "you dont make it nearly as far" and "you just walk right through"

[coral glacier]

A lot of people feedbacked it heavily in beta. I’m feedbacking it now in live. The best routes for change are feedbacking and bug-reporting after gathering as much information as possible.

[hot terrace]

it seems very, very random if you can make it or not

the eden gacha, does it let you through the wind wall or not? wanna find out?

[stark lodge]

Right, they had it perfect during the first iteration of it in beta.

It's when I believe the rock arch got backend added and that's when it just got bad.

[hot terrace]

i kid, but i'm just trying to highlight the insanity 😂

[coral glacier]

Oh, yea, I was one of the people that said “this isn’t ready for live yet” a week before content shipment
I talked about this in the replied comment.

[stark lodge]

I didn't get to test this current Eden back in beta because I didn't have enough winged light to enter, I barely do enough in beta.

[hot terrace]

does it seem like it to you that the devs don't really have a measure of "we ship this feature, but this other one we don't" from beta?

[stark lodge]

But yeah I've heard and seen mostly negative feedback.

[hot terrace]

like, a dev should be able to ship a cherry picked amount of changes and leave others cooking on the oven

[coral glacier]

I can’t make a good call because I’m not a tester or a developer. But I think that the way the game is developed, it’s difficult for them to pick-and-choose or recall what gets in during content shipment.

Otherwise there’s no reason a major game-changing feature should get this few iterations and be shipped with only one patch’s time of development.

[hot terrace]

thats part of what i am thinking too...

like if they want to do an update to ship the next days event, go ahead. but don't ship beta as is right now, cherry pick what has worked successfully and go with that

[coral glacier]

[hot terrace]

but it seems like theres a deadline at which beta gets eaten like it is no matter how broken some iterations of changes are

[stark lodge]

At this point it doesn't matter if you're a beta tester or not, some content they push out is already planned out ahead of time and so when we do test things it's mainly up to them whether or not it changes. Unless there was another cat hair incident, I don't think they will change much.

[hot terrace]

when in doubt, only publish the content additions for now

[coral glacier]

The way the cat hair is simply a cosmetic item, the code can easily be altered for its price or placement in a shop or spirit UI. The scale of these changes are more far reaching in comparison.

[hot terrace]

yeah changing the basic physical interactions that drive the entire game is on a level where you shouldnt mess with it too easily

[stark lodge]

But uh, this Eden thing is really gonna be put in the oven for some more time I hope. I like that we no longer crawl until a certain amount of WL is dropped, but like RNG shouldn't be a factor in whether you get to the last statue so much.

I'm glad we can use emotes when we die though.

[hot terrace]

i hope so, because the way updates have gone, they're not putting it back in the oven, they're just gonna work on it till it's fixed and deploy the half fixed versions over time

in the business people always flex with how agile their development is, but this development hasnt been very agile lately

[stark lodge]

I mean, they've done some good, but this Eden thing will surely be fixed so no more stunlocks will occur.

[hot terrace]

it's more like some cooks are working on the big piece of food that is on the central table, and anything that was changed on it, is now what is going out

of course, im not saying everything is bad, i just think maybe you only deploy what you're 100% sure of is working and leave the rest in beta

nobody would be unhappy to have the eden changes delayed once more

[stark lodge]

I have to give some credit to what they're doing, they're trying to return Eden back to when it was actually enjoyable, the effort is shown and it's there, it's just that the presentation is lacking.

[hot terrace]

yeah, but... you know, deploy that change when it's shiny and perfect

[coral glacier]

There was a failure to realize what they wanted to do because of a breakdown in the development, feedback and testing process, but outsiders like us will never be 100% sure what went wrong I believe.

[hot terrace]

i liked for example that in eden, one click collecs all statues immediately around you now, at once

[stark lodge]

Crawling is realistic, but not so realistic when you have over 200+ winged lights. Having that much energy within your essence you should be able to take a long beating, and it's even more realistic now that you only crawl when you drop low and limp at a certain amount.

Elder masks need to be buffed too in my opinion.

Or at least if they're going to add the remaining, those will be buffed more than their old counterparts.

[coral glacier]

⬆️ All of these points are why feedback is crucial in all stages of development and the beta testing playerbase needs to be comprised of diverse players willing and able to feedback new features and changes.

[hot terrace]

i think at this point in "energy", it should even have a different animation when you're hit, like if you're at 200, by all means, make a shield of light appear around you or something lol, and hits just pling off until you hit 100

then after you hit 100, you have slight troubles staying steady, and then it just degenerates more and more

[stark lodge]

I agree.

[hot terrace]

avoiding a stunlock ofc

[stark lodge]

Like heavily.

[hot terrace]

hell people above 200 should have a way to shield their friends with their own WL or something, then we'd have more of a cooperative experience too

there's a lot of ideas i think that could be had

[stark lodge]

I might just write up a piece of feedback but uh, let's just go with this: the more winged lights, the more control you have over walking and not losing your footing in the center of the storm?

[hot terrace]

or as an animation, WLs actively fly out and divert a rock

then the endless shower would be more endurable if you had some "leniency" in which rocks actually hit you and which get diverted by a wl

i mean i wont get too big in what i am wishing for, it's just like, ideas

[stark lodge]

I'm thinking the energy loss ratio should go something like this:

• 200+ WL - No flinching whatsoever, good control over walking.

• 150+ WL - VERY minor flinching, still can walk easily.

• 100+ WL - Minor flinching, can trip sometimes.

• 50+ WL - Average flinching, may trip occasionally.

• 20 WL - Major flinching, trips are common.

• 10 WL - Critical flinching, can no longer stand, crawling state.

How's this sound?

[coral glacier]

That would work if the wind in PNR was removed/reverted to pre-0.24.5. However it needs to be fair for players entering with lower WL count, so this would need to be a scaling system (like how the damage system likely is already).

[stark lodge]

Yeah, I plan to put in my feedback that scaling should be back, so that the less you have, the less you lose.

[coral glacier]

Unless I’m mistaken scaling isn’t gone and players still lose wings on hit when extinguished proportionate to the amount they entered with, but it may slope off towards the end now to make the last moments more climatic in conjunction with the limping and forced crawling. I may also be delusional and there may be no slow dropoff in how many are dropped at the end.

I can’t remember if the amount lost per hit is reduced towards the end of your WL count in previous patches.

[hot terrace]

i mean unless we just dont say fixed 200+, but we say "100% of WLs when entering" instead

that would give everyone the chance to have a no flinch time

or we make it a shmup, you fly straight through the area, dropping wls down onto statues while shooting rocks with your WLs

pew pew
(sorry )

[stark lodge]

Yeah but when you enter the point of no return with 200+ winged lights, you're kinda already giving them away to the statues in the beginning. So that'll drop some.

[hot terrace]

hmm, maybe it shouldn't count for ones given away yet, only for ones lost to hits?

i guess that would be weird though

[stark lodge]

Also, isn't it 1 A.M. where you live? You need to sleep, NOW! 🫵

[hot terrace]

i just finished my "dinner" 😂

[stark lodge]

Bruh.

[hot terrace]

i just recently had my semester finals, my sleep schedule completely fell apart during that

right now im trying to move it backwards again

[stark lodge]

Good luck with that.

[hot terrace]

so im getting up late in the evening and having my dinner right now 😂

since im on my semester break, i can afford it right now

yeah my semester finaly were fearsome, i pulled some all nighters cramming before the tests, then slept after the tests (which were in the morning). oh well, i think i am getting pretty good grades

[obsidian abyss]

SURE IS!! I came in here to see if other people were having issues as bad as I am and lo and behold. I went in with 168WL, I usually have no trouble hitting the majority of the statues and crawling to the end but I didn’t even make it past the last lamp statue. I was out by 70 before the lamp with three statues right next to it

And shards didn’t work the other day?? I feel like I’m owed a couple of AC because that was a Nightmare

[stark lodge]

Yeah, I really want to give it a go with 215 winged light when the TS is here. But now, I'm not so sure.

[hybrid portal]

Oh yeah I have to agree, I went in with over 210 (not sure exactly how many but I’m nearing max winged light) and this was my experience

I had an elder mask too and hasn’t lost any wl until you just immediately do

[obsidian abyss]

I wish my recording was a screen record so you could see how hard and fast I was slapping the jump button😭
This is easily the worst Eden has ever been for me and I wandered on in there my second day playing not knowing anything at all. Didn’t have a lot of WL but I still made it to the end!

[stark lodge]

Also when I went with just my wing buffs the last time, I used a couple instant recharge potions and I IMMEDIATELY got extinguished not even past the sand dunes. Pre-patch I didn't.

[obsidian abyss]

Same!!!

[stark lodge]

Yeah, it's bad.

[tired vine]

Strange, it wasn’t that bad for me when I went… I had around 150 and was about to get the last statue (then there was the wind wall)

[teal eagle]

How did tgc manage to make Eden way worse 😭😭😭

[stark lodge]

It's in some ways better though, just not all of it is.

[hybrid portal]

Aww forgot reply @obsidian abyss
They have it in #known-issues so it’s not intended but yeah there’s just that one place and it’s like a wall, you can’t not start losing wings once you step in.
They’re working really hard to fix it, but for now, it’s only like 1 AC that’s getting missed for me.

It’s easier on the before I think though? We can move a little bit more after a tiny hit

Generally the idea is you get to go more deep as you gain more layers of protection (wl) and so the end should be kind of how far someone with max winged light can get. And that max has increased a lot, so it’s completely understandable if it gets a bit harder but not even the max wings gets anywhere close

It’s hard to get it right the first time though so I’m patient with it taking a second for them to make it so it suits everyone

[silent matrix]

As long as I die in pnr I’ll be able to reach the end part right

like if I don’t give any statues my wls and die there

[spark inlet]

Is it just me or anyone is having trouble jumping in Eden with Chibi mask?? Because I know I'm always backflipping left and right because of some random forced field of wind in the middle of raining rocks.

[quasi plaza]

Idk it's a bit hard in eden now

Even with normal height

Not sure if they increased the hotbox on the skykid inside too lol

[rotund grotto]

Does all statue location got changed after an update?

[oblique hawk]

the heck i spend more time trying to get up than actually crawling to get more wl whats this

[hardy bough]

Welcome to the Eden stunlock

[odd junco]

I got that lovely windwall at the dune for this second go around for this specific patch. Somehow I didn't hit it the test run I did the other day. Genuinely would've hit the last three statues if it wasn't for that but it caused me to hemorrhage like 50 WLs in that spot.

[hardy bough]

Wait I wonder if call charging to not fall down is back in the game

Also anyone else notice the whole, you can give winged light to statues near each other at the same time?

[shadow spire]

Yeah, now one click to a statue will distribute a bunch at once

Didn’t see that in the patch notes but welp

[stark lodge]

Tried it already. It still stunlocks you but you get up immediately though.

[hardy bough]

So it’s still useful then

[stark lodge]

Sort of.

[hardy bough]

Granted the second the wind thing is fixed, it’s gonna not be needed since the deadzone is gonna be way more manageable

[kind patio]

hello

[little edge]

oh wait yeah is eden harder for chibi or tall

[fringe oar]

@little edge I think taller

[earnest imp]

!edenreset

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1709452800:F> (In 5 days 23 hours 30 minutes 19 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[warm sparrow]

dang, after the group and upcoming TS, i'll be at like 60 wings from eden when i leave. considering i think you pick up 10 in eden as you're heading up the mountain, i'll only need to pickup like 10-20 wings while doing daily quests for eden runs in the future LOL
thats pretty nice

[lone perch]

I guess they messed up eden somehow. They gave the last light some more rock cover and it seems they changed the behaviour of your Charakter. You are now walking instead of crouching but in result I just fell over and over and wasn't able to move a single meter. Lost 60 light while constantly lying on the ground without being able to move in an animation lock. Nice

[shadow spire]

Yeah, they’ve posted about it in #known-issues , a lot of people have been having issues with this

[lone perch]

Guess I need a second run this week then :/

[trim flicker]

It’s almost impossible to get all statues 😭

Too many falling rocks weird wind walls make you spinning all the time

Crouching was better

[coral glacier]

Hello, this is a daily PSA to not jump in Eden past the last torch as it increases your likelihood of getting blown away by wind and/or stunlocked.

[fringe oar]

Guys regarding that deer quest.i think the final story is deer getting captured then that dark dragon coming to attack kingdom.and deer saves them.then all people Hale it as God and let it go.according to mythos it seems so

[carmine frost]

So I went in eden with 175 (all) with chibimask and an Elder mask yesterday
And I managed to get all the statues (15.75 right?) With 3 wl left, It was a flawless run until the last part with everything i had, I didnt try to jump in the last part (im afraid my chibi might got blown back to spawn)

So all statues is possible perhaps, or I was extremely lucky

[sour sun]

It's possible. I went in with 217wl (with elder mask) and have 40wl left at the last statue

[serene flare]

We can but should not jump

[hidden mauve]

Is it a good idea to run around in Eden with stacked chibi and then a white candle at least in the early parts? Cause I wanna try it with my friend but I don't want to risk us losing a bunch of wls being dumb

[quasi plaza]

Hmmmm

[faint cove]

What does stunlocked mean tho 👀

[subtle canyon]

you keep getting beaten into the ground non-stop so you cant get up for a longer period of time
also you keep getting damage while down

You get **stunned **and its **locking **you into place for a long time

[faint cove]

Damn I see 👀 thank you :3

[tight jungle]

Bloody stunlock kept me from getting the last 5 statues. :(

[tight jungle]

I legit thought they increased the permanent rock rain rate, honestly, which results in being stunlocked.

[warm sparrow]

I dont have a recording of it, but i think this is kinda how eden used to be, before it was changed to crawling, though seems maybe to offset crawling not stopping they probably upped the damage rate, then went back away from crawling and now its a bit too much

[tight jungle]

I actually tried that last Sunday (before update) with a pal and we endured all the way until the 2 statues where the rock rain gets irregular and more often, thus I'd say it's worth it as long as you're smol.

[tight jungle]

Most likely, yeah. Gotta say that Instant Energy potions and Fast Recharge spells will be selling like hot cakes.

[magic pollen]

naw cause before crawling was added you had less severe damage reactions meaning you could make it far with full mobility, then once crawling was added everything felt slower (probably why people wanted the changes) but as long as you dodged decently well and had enough WL before you got into crawling you could still perform well enough to get all statues plus you couldn't get stunlocked for as long cause you were already on the ground so no getting knocked on your back and going through a long animation to stand up again.

[warm sparrow]

Thats kinda what i meant by them probably changing damage rates to go with crawling, then changing back from crawling but probably having the same damage rates, heh

[magic pollen]

this new update in some respect is just trying to make eden how it used to be while having the modern game mechanics becoming an barrier to do so and now we are left a worse version compared to either of the previous ones atleast in it's current state

[warm sparrow]

My general thought was crawling maybe felt slower, but you stopped being knocked down and having to wait out that animation, so it may have been faster, and theyd have adjusted damage rates to keep it in line with what it was before

And now we're getting blasted at that crit rate while standing

[magic pollen]

yea I think they changed it cause it was being perceived as worse then it was and so tried to make it how it used to be without putting the proper amount of thought and testing given how it is now

tho I guess some of the issues are mistakes that will be corrected hopefully soon

[warm sparrow]

I had come back to the game with a multi year break and gotten used to the crawling pretty quick, was goin in with way less light than some people have to use now lol

[dark sail]

am I stuck?

[ivory dew]

i hate the new eden updateee ive always been able to get all the statues, but ever since they removed crawling the red rocks stun me SO bad to the point where i literally cant get up. i was on the hill with like 40 wl left and i couldnt move at all bc of the red rain

like hello??😭the same thing is happening to my friend rn

[stark lodge]

I took a rock to the face today before PNR at full energy wearing an Elder mask just going up and helping people climb the mountain but this one Sky kid kept pushing me out of the safe spot a bit so I was frantically moving back and forth between the shelter and as a result I was knocked out back but didn't get extinguished. I didn't even break my mask in the process but I was a little angry at that person.

This was like around halfway up the final climb to the tunnel.

[hardy bough]

Were you holding their hand?

[stark lodge]

I was not friends with them.

[tacit bramble]

please reduce the number of rocks at the end by 20%. i literally couldnt see what was going one because they were so dense. and make a cooldown for being knocked over of like 10 seconds. then that should be pretty well ballanced. last week with 165 wings and a elder mask, i made it 10 seconds past the last statue without much trouble. this week i made it about 1 second past the second last statue starting with 170 wings.

[tacit bramble]

ouch

[mossy zinc]

they made eden so angry bro 😭 i used to get to the last statue with at LEAST 65 wl left. today, i barely made it to the sandy hill…. i got stuck in a never ending stand up, crawl loop, which made me unable to move 😔✌️ gonna part ways with eden until it’s completely fixed

[slate crest]

so glad its not jsut me whose been struggling 😭

i’m guessing they probably just made it harder,,,? but im not sure

[little edge]

should i just go to eden today while i have less wl instead of going on runs for like 140 and then losing it all for an extra 0.75 ac 💀

[fickle forum]

gonna hold off on eden till the rock chaos dies down

[slate crest]

i lied eden is horrid rn

me trying to move only to be hit again, being rendered unable to move, and then getting hit again so i can’t move at all:

fighting for my life actively\

[ivory dew]

me toooo

[bleak barn]

i swear they mess it up on purpose

[hardy bough]

I am surprised how many people don’t avoid the spotlights in the second zone

[warm sparrow]

i didnt even realize those were a thing until like my 30th eden run or something still never even really encounter em in a way i have to be worried to dodge them

[tropic quest]

oh my goodness the stunlock is so painful. I usually go into eden with 160-175 wls and an elder mask, and don’t lose my light until i get to the sandy hill. I never had any problem getting all the statues. This week i never made it beyond the hill, just got stuck in a loop over and over again of getting blasted by these damn rocks. I was normal size, so next week i think i’ll see if chibi works better, but honestly the crawling was fine with me. I do like the improved rock shelters, though

[mortal quarry]

Did anyone have a hard time jumping on Eden? The rocks were more aggressive than the falling rock from Mario bros. Me and my friends barely made it to the end.

Chibi isn’t better on pnr. It made me jump on the covers and get stunned so much.

[formal mesa]

@mortal quarry

[mortal quarry]

It wasn’t at the last torch

It was at the middle. When the water is about to start? Hard to explain

[formal mesa]

Even so, just don't jump in Eden. That increases your chances of being stunlocked, past the last torch or not

[mortal quarry]

How can you be fast if you don’t jump? Otherwise I would lose most of my wl before getting to the semi last part

[formal mesa]

That's how it works now by trying to jump you only slow yourself down more, it's counterintuitive at that point

[pastel kelp]

True

[dim field]

what do elder masks do?

[sour sun]

@dim field

[native folio]

What are spotlights? And how do you avoid them?

[hardy bough]

In the second zone it has a constant but very weak rain. However, red spotlights on the floor move around, in which the intensity of the rain in that area increases

To avoid them, just pay attention to where most of the rain near it is coming from, most likely where it came from will die down in frequency real soon, unless another spotlight enters that area

[native folio]

Ooooo…. Thx for the tip! I used to stare at the red spotlights but didn’t know how to read them.

[hardy bough]

I notice a ton of people still run the spotlights, and with the changes to Eden, that’s a VERY fast way to lose a few WLs

[native folio]

Any other tips to complete PNR successfully with the new changes in Eden?

[hardy bough]

Wait for the hotfix, the deadzone is really annoying rn

[sour sun]

You may refer this to see the red spotlights pattern.
Credit to battm
#eden-spoilers message

[hardy bough]

For zone 1, I would say if it’s raining shards for a bit, it’s actually semi safe to go a bit early, cause if you get hit, you can just retreat real quickly to regen most of the time

It’s a lot of timing stuff

[sour sun]

Don't jump after the last recharge point, wear your elder mask if you have one

[hardy bough]

It does give you a little more room to push a bit further, even if it shatters immediately

The mask itself can handle two hits before breaking in Eden

[native folio]

All great tips! Thx, guys!

[sour sun]

Anytime. Enjoy your trip to Eden

[tropic quest]

Did chibi help anyone with pnr? Does it make a difference in terms of getting stunlocked?

[next ice]

is it just me or is it getting way harder to do eden now i can barely get to the diamond at the end of eden with 150+ wl and i get knocked back way too frequently... i used to be able to get all the statues last time, but now it's so difficult with the amount of times im getting knocked back

[prime fox]

How do I understand that I need to go to eden? Or what is the point of going there?? I’m new sorry 🙏

[velvet yoke]

It’s currently the only way to get ascended candles; another very important currency that you need to be able to fully experience the game by giving them to spirits in order to access everything. After you do Eden the first time, you can also then see all the spirits from past seasons and start collecting their base expression; this way when they return as travelling spirits, you can unlock them
After you’ve done it once and the hotpatch happens, you might be able to just get AC from shards if you really don’t wanna do it again

[prime fox]

Tysm!

[radiant compass]

My friends and I had exactly this problem. We did Eden just after the update and it was AWFUL. We kept getting downed even at the start?? At some point we couldn't even get further – our skykids were stuck because they kept getting up instead of crawling – it was honestly very frustrating. I know Eden isn't supposed to be a good part in sky but now I'm ready to just relate on the shards to get some ascended candles. 🙌

[carmine frost]

You mean the shards that never really fall?

[radiant compass]

Yeah well, let's hope it actually start working again soon 🥹

[next ice]

Exactly like i spent 90% of my time trying to get up and i got so fed up that i just. gave up trying 😭

[radiant compass]

Same here buddy, same here... 😭
Let's stay strong and hope for a little (soon-to-be) update that will – hopefully – fix that problem. 👁️
(For the moment, let's all take a moment to apologize to our little skykids's heads ☹️)

[hollow charm]

Totally agree eden is horrible now. It literally was perfect in 2020-2021 and so on, I could make it til the end of the statues and further so smoothly. I took a break from the game and just came back 2 months ago and I disliked the crawling so much, but it’s better than what happens now where with 188 wl, I couldn’t even make it to some statues before the hill. So disappointing.

[tight jungle]

Mhm.

That fix better come next week together with the one to adress the inability to do Shard events and AURORA quests!

[wise nexus]

Eden is really bad now,lots of people are complaining about it. Getting spam hit by red shard is over board TGC before the update eden was perfect they have to change it back ;-; I went to eden 2 days ago and that is the last time im going until they fix it. 😔

[hidden mauve]

I feel like even in the beginning areas of Eden the shards were still crazy, cause before I used to run and minimally get hit even when it was raining but this time I kept getting knocked down

[stuck meadow]

hi i’m at orbit and i find a strange floating stone someone can tell me what it this ?

it’s a bug ?

[warm sparrow]

thats the forest elder's stone diamond

[hardy bough]

I hope after the hotfix to Eden they keep the new changes to how fast it can absolutely shred your WLs

[warm sparrow]

I think its meant to be invisible, lol
displaced from the elder though i think is intended

its probably a part of their model, just weirdly over there LOL

[turbid lantern]

just went through eden and wow I’m never going back again

tbh I’d rather have the last statues removed if they don’t want us reaching there at all bc I was getting stunned in place for a whole minute and couldn’t get there

[tacit whale]

I continue my exploration of the world. Discovering inhospitable and disconcerting lands...

[real sun]

So what do I do when (after dying in Eden) I’m the shadow child and I’m supposed to give a hand to the light child, but I got out of alignment when walking over and now it won’t let me interact? (Edit: I’m on PS5 FWIW)

[hushed nacelle]

Restart the game

[real sun]

Do you know where I’ll end up when I do?

Will I still be able to get my ascended candles for the Eden run? :S

[hushed nacelle]

At home, then you can get back there meditating at the stone

[real sun]

Brilliant, thank you @hushed nacelle

[hushed nacelle]

[pliant wharf]

Dude, I love the extra cover, but if they're going to keep the wind and the untrackable rockfall, we need more fallen kids before the point of no return.
If we can only get a max of 16 ac each week, either things need to get cheaper or they need to go back to a doable challenge.
I honestly feel so bad for moths rn.

[tawny cradle]

SAMEEE

[leaden jetty]

Wha, why'd my message disappear

[devout vector]

this... is pain...
see you next month Eden, or maybe never again

[sour sun]

But it's doable you see. Some of the people here managed to get all the statues with just 175wl

[tropic quest]

Asdgjhrsgh

I’m still gonna keep doing Eden every week (mama needs her ACs) but it’s such a pain now

[tough flint]

I went as a chibi (my first time going as chibi) and I was only stunlocked briefly. I think chibis have a smaller hit box. I was able to make it as far as I usually do, but just barely.

[velvet yoke]

I took one of my moths for the first time two weeks ago and they got 13 AC when they entered with 77 WL. I don’t know what this week will be but I suspect pretty bad

[balmy hearth]

Last red shard wouldn’t give any AC either; now every AC is a precious and treasured thing

[atomic stone]

13 AC? dang i get like 10 to 12 as a moth and that is with 117± wings

[little edge]

its a lot easier when you have more people with you, with old eden i got 10 alone with 75 wl but 13 in a group of three with 88 wl

[atomic stone]

yeah the first time i went to eden i got 10 with 72± wl before the new update(?) i think, none of my friends go to eden so i have to go alone

[little edge]

do u wanna friend me? i do it weekly

[atomic stone]

sure! i will send you my code

[hardy bough]

It’s not that bad doing it solo, you learn how to do it faster each time

[hasty vapor]

Hello, I have a problem with Eden, I can't get out of it in any way, l've already died in it, but because I left the game for a minute, l can't go into orbit for rebirth, I tried to restart many times and uninstall the application, but I still stay in Eden, Does anyone know how to solve it?

[sour sun]

Are you inside pnr now?

[wind gull]

do you have chibi mask/spell?
restart your game so you'll spawn at home. then try to chibi fall thru eden gate

once you successfully chibi fall the gate, go thru eden up till statue area (avoid picking up any WL along the way)
if it works, you should immediately 'die' the moment you step into the dark water

[velvet yoke]

I do it weekly too, used to be on Sundays after weekly reset but atm it’s on Thursdays if you need options. I’ll probably go back to Sundays as soon as the Group spirits arrive

[hasty vapor]

Okey, thanks

[atomic stone]

i can only do it on sunday, well i could do it on other days but it usually on a weird timing since i have to work, but thank you for the kind offer! i appreciate it

[pine temple]

You can ditch your friends now.
Is it really a good idea?

[wind gull]

that option has been around a long time now. you can always say no if you want to wait for the others to finish

[pliant wharf]

It's faster now, but most the time if you and your friends leave around the same time you'll spawn into the same server for orbit

It helps keep from having to wait for people who are chilling or much higher level.

[vital gull]

My favourite part of eden is when ur trapped against a wall and lose 40 wings in 10 seconds !!

[obtuse root]

Is it just me or is anyone else having trouble with the stunlock- like this was absurd. I know back when the crawl wasn't a thing you would get stun locked pretty easily, but I was virtually stuck in the same area for an entire minute because I kept getting stunned? I got to this little area with 40 wings and in an entire minute lost all of it because I kept getting stunned and couldn't really move (ignore the music)

Like I used to be able to reach the end no problem but I couldn't even pass the sand this time

[wind gull]

stunlock is #known-issues

[obtuse root]

Oki doki ty! Wasn't sure were to put this

[placid lava]

It is just me or does the split server always occur when u go to Eden with someone like me and my friends always get it even though our wifi should be 100 A OKAYYY but we get split every time we Eden together 😭😭

[vital gull]

Literally what had just happened to me before u posted that lmaooo 😭 literally became me just sitting there waiting to actually move 🥲

[quiet glacier]

I tried Eden with the forest elder mask ornament today. it was fine till I got over the hill toward the diamond with the last three statues

the stunlock was frustrating, but what peeved me the most was all the visual clutter keeping me from seeing the second to last statue

I got disoriented and started going the wrong way because I couldn't see it anymore

but I came out with 14 ascended candles so not as bad as it could

[ocean coyote]

Stunlock is such an appropriate phrase for how frustrating Eden is now

[hazy monolith]

yea never doing eden again

call hit lying on floor simulator

[tight jungle]

Still forced though because Red Shards can´t be done as well.

[sacred delta]

I love how different capes look once they're damaged and tattered, the blue and red I got in this pic are so pretty

[stiff needle]

Just ran through eden, and even though my home wasnt set to the aviary i still had the aviary cutscene for rebirth? Is this a bug?

[subtle canyon]

can anyone go to the very last statue? I swear there some kind of wall now

[subtle canyon]

I dont think so? My friend also has home set as well, home but always ends up in aviary with me

[coral glacier]

No, the old home rebirth scene was silently phased out a few patches ago. Nobody can see it anymore or land in old home after completing Eden.

[hardy bough]

Yea you just land in Aviary now

[obtuse root]

No bc the visual clutter hurt my eyes too I knew where the statue was bc I've done eden for 2 years so I knew were the general location was

[atomic hatch]

Attempted eden again after not doing it for a long time and I still hate it just as much. I could be wrong but near the end when rocks were nonstop I felt like it just straight up stunlocked me where I couldn't even get a few more

Also It still bugs out near the end when you die. At least they made the wait to continue shorter

Also there's this skykid here that's not actually a player I have no idea what this is but it's just stood here menacingly

[tawny cradle]

They made it better in the beginning I guess but when the rocks are consistent you just don't get to move and it's even more frustrating than old Eden and I haven't even been playing a lot I'm kinda new

[tender hound]

!er

[knotty plover]

The Eye of Eden resets once per week.
Next reset happens <t:1709452800:F> (In 2 days 16 hours 59 minutes 12 seconds)
Did you know you can use the !edenreset or !er command in my DMs? Shorter cooldown there too.

[formal mesa]

The stunlocking is a #known-issues

[cyan prawn]

Just finished new eden and I find it such an embarassing disappointment.

[wise lagoon]

Ok How do I unlock the door?

My door looks like this:

[wind gull]

have you went thru vault? there's one line not connecting there

[wise lagoon]

idk how to finish it..

[wind gull]

you would need to ride the elevator all the way to the top

[wise lagoon]

doing that now

[wind gull]

[pearl fossil]

You also have to collect at least 20 Winged Light

[wise lagoon]

I am on 30!

so pog!

[pearl fossil]

Nice.

[wise lagoon]

How dangerous is the area?

The ||"Eye of eden"||

[pearl fossil]

Well, since the last update..it has become deadly

[wise lagoon]

you can loose all your winged light?

[pearl fossil]

and also feel free to talk without censoring since this is #eden-spoilers

[wise lagoon]

oh

If I get attacked by the krill?

or what will cause me to loose light?

[wind gull]

more than krills

still think it's best you go in for your first experience blind, unless you really don't mind spoilers

[wise lagoon]

I saw this and immediately said "Nope. Not doing this solo."

i went back to home.

[wind gull]

ah it be like that

[wise lagoon]

I am going to get some friends to help.

[tired vine]

I would recommend not to spoiler yourself, the first time in Eden is more about the experience of it

[wise lagoon]

ok.

[wind gull]

friends helping is okay if they're up to the task

i just hope they don't use shortcuts for you

[wise lagoon]

I will pop out of here and over to #general-sky-discussion.

[vestal kernel]

I feel like getting to the eye of eden has gotten harder with this update

There seems to be a huge wind wall blocking the last part past the PNR

[karmic meteor]

they really made Eden so much harder than it already was

[stuck coral]

Everything about the update I found good except for the massive stunlock at the very end

Like couldn't get up that little hill at the end at all, I was basically frozen in place :')

Before being literally frozen in place BC I died

[old glade]

Why did Eden become so difficult now 😭

[hardy bough]

Skill check

[stark lodge]

Not really. It's great before PNR. After PNR, though... that's another story.

[hardy bough]

But in all honesty, seems they wanted to make it a little more difficult

[stark lodge]

People no longer crawl like gremlins when they are knocked down unless they're only at 10 winged light.

[hardy bough]

And you’re punished WAY harder for poor movement