beta-discussion

[drifting cave]

This channel is aimed towards Sky Beta which will contain spoilers for upcoming content. So if you're not a beta tester, please be wary of spoilers.

[sinful bough]

It's in #news

[mellow echo]

Alr tysm

[amber palm]

yes

[drowsy walrus]

Is beta offline??

[sinful bough]

Offline like how?

[drowsy walrus]

I know my question sounds dumb but

See the pic in the i will send in beta screen shots and video group

[glass spoke]

as long as i'm aware beta too, needs wifi to function

[drowsy walrus]

Yeah thats what i know aswell but check my screenshot in the #beta-screenshots-videos

[glass spoke]

checked, my opinion stays the same

[drowsy walrus]

Must be an error or mistake

[sinful bough]

Yeah, beta and live both require wifi/data to work so that's probably just a mistake I guess

[tardy basalt]

god i hope the eden changes r season only bc jt sucks for someone whose a solo runner

[sinful bough]

I know, the shard by grandma is always so difficult to get through, it's like red crabs have been doubled in both amount and aggression for this area specifically

[hollow compass]

Eden changes are not related to the season.

[glass spoke]

basically from now on we're gonna suck a lot

[tardy basalt]

NOOOOO

[nova bay]

@eager harness reply to your comment in #beta-screenshots-videos well idk we haven’t had an update in quite some time so we don’t know that. I sent that video to feedback as an illustration how hard it is to light folks. The only thing we can do is send feedback so that’s what I do. It’s up to tgc to do something with it or not.

[hollow compass]

You also have to consider that they do listen, but they have their own plans and ideas about the game.

[minor falcon]

shard events are way more likely to be super difficult and frustrating when solo and honestly a walk in the park wyen you're carrying someone as the passive recharge offsets even sunny forest level crystal crabs there should be a middle ground

[sterile cobalt]

i usually play with someone now, butim not looking forward to seeing new players and solo players struggle more with this

[grim forge]

I haven't gotten a chance to play beta since there's only one invite wave this season, do any of the new items do anything or is it all just wearables and one horn?

[sterile cobalt]

none if them really do anything so far that i know of, ive heard the horn attracts krill but ive never tried anything with it

[sinful bough]

Nah they're just for aesthetics I'm pretty sure, and I don't think the horn actually does anything. I remember a bunch of players tried it on krill and it didn't do anything. I tried it as well and also nothing, but it also doesn't serve as an instrument so it's a little disappointing.

[torn girder]

shard events are pretty easy in solo when there aren’t billions of shard crabs

[sterile cobalt]

yea, that
so far the horn doesnt seem to have any purpose that anyone can find really, maybe it'll get one later

[minor falcon]

fair, but today's sunny forest quest sure was frustrating with the hoard of crabs

[visual temple]

What happens when I carry someone is crabs get them because we see different things on our screens. So I end up not doing much burning, running after my dead companion and getting killed myself.

And since two extinguished skids can’t recharge each other anymore…

[torn girder]

yeahh like sunny forest, ark they have a lot of crabs there and since they don’t migrate anymore, i just won’t do these shards in live because they’re a pain in the butt

[eager harness]

They have proven they aren’t listening to us. That’s all I have to say about it.

[grim forge]

If they're making the extinguished state 1000x more painful, buffing Eden wind and adding supercrabs I really hope there's some new ability or functional item that hasn't been revealed yet. Imagine if skykids could swing their candles like Zelda lanterns to break shard crabs' shards and revive each other...

[spark lance]

When will these eden changes go live?

[shadow stratus]

Might have a chance of being next week when the game update for DoR, but i assume they can also keep the way it is until the season update

[vagrant fable]

There was the supposed temporary shield feature added to Elder hairstyles, but while the devs said it was a "bug" (as in it probably was implemented at the wrong time or wrong way), we're still to see what becomes of it.

[carmine thorn]

That shield was likely a scrapped idea that somehow found it's way into an update. Game code be funny like that sometimes.

[ashen tusk]

In what way?
I'm more concerned that they're not talking to us rather than not listening. We've seen them implement changes based on our feedback this testing period, but they seem to have been prioritising eden and shards only. I want them to talk to us about the actual season content and how confused and frustrated we are about that.

[visual temple]

I don’t want Elder hair as a shield. They’re ugly. I want to wear whatever I feel like wearing when I play.

[sinful bough]

I liked the idea of elder hairstyles having shield feature. Gives more worth to actually completing constellations and adds some ease with the way eden has become and the crawl feature and all that.

[ashen dock]

I'm not a beta tester but I have a question for those of you who are
Is the sop handpan fixed in beta? Or will it be fixed?

[visual temple]

It is excruciatingly ironic that the same mechanics intended to foster cooperation and meaningful emotions are provoking a massive disinterest for Eden and the game in general.

[ashen tusk]

100% this, having elder hair as purely cosmetic feels like we haven't really earned anything special except a "look at me I finished a constellation" status, I'd rather they have a benefit too because then it feels like the elders are bestowing us with an actual gift for our work in completing the constellations.

[vagrant fable]

Fixed like the animation? Or the sound?
The animation is fixed, the sound will not change

Oh i think that has been fixed, yes

[ashen dock]

The sound, everyone in the same server can hear it no matter how far

[ashen tusk]

you mean when you can hear it like 2763794922 miles away? Honestly I've never tested for it so I can't say, but since it's in live keep reporting it as live bug cause it's technically not a beta focus now since we're testing the season/event

[torn girder]

tbh i don’t think anyone asked for crawling in a way of new damage mechanic

[hasty vessel]

Then wear whatever you feel like wearing? It would just be an added bonus and give more meaning to the end game items. They are elder hairs forgiveness sake they should have some additional perks imo

[ashen tusk]

I never said they had?

[torn girder]

i know, i’m talking about tgc listening to feedback in general

[visual temple]

If they bestowed immunity from the insane damage mechanics, they would become a must wear. I don’t want that. I’d rather have it in the form of a prop.

[sinful bough]

I see what you're saying but it's hard to feel any sort of connection to this season or eden when everything is incredibly vague and the devs aren't telling us their vision for this season, and the new game play. Not to mention the heightened difficulty that makes it feel almost impossible to deal with when you're a solo player which is another thing that i feel like a shield feature could be very beneficial for solo players who may struggle with shards or eden after all these new features.

[ashen tusk]

can't say I wanted the swimming mechanic personally and it's a pain in the rear imo but that doesn't mean others didn't ask for something like that to be added or that that feature wasn't already something tgc planned to implement anyways
I'm talking more about the way that since they've added that feature they have actively asked for specific feedback surrounding it and have implemented certain changes to it - just because they haven't taken it away completely doesn't mean they aren't listening, some people have given positive opinions - I should clarify they've had positive opinions about the mechanic adding an emotional layer to our experience, because I've still seen plenty of criticism of the actual mechanics of it

[kindred fossil]

If that were to ever happen, it should be the form of a pendant after 100% all constellations

[visual temple]

I 100% agree, I just don’t want it to be a cosmetic, but rather a prop. It could also be bestowed by the elders.

[ashen tusk]

so realm pendants instead of elder hair or as an automatic unlock after 100% constellation unlock? which we could access by clicking the 100 flag and it would finally have a purpose

[hasty vessel]

Having it in the form of a prop or hairstyle makes no difference? It makes more sense for it to be a gift bestowed by the elders as said before, it would also allow players with the shield to act as a support when entering the harsher areas, it’s still a win win in my eyes

[kindred fossil]

Yes, a pendant to wear, it’ll feel more meaningful

Or the Eden crown as the protection blessing 👀

[ashen tusk]

based on the fact the only thing we for sure get from the elders right now is their hair, I don't think it's wrong to want the hair to have a shield power, but if we do actually get more from the elders or a pendant as dark has suggested then for sure it would make sense to have it given as a prop/pendant rather than specific cosmetic like their hair

that's another 10 years added for the eden crown wait dark

[visual temple]

Listen, if you can’t see the difference between wearing a hairstyle and carrying a pendant or a shield on your back, there’s nothing I can do to make you understand my point.

[hasty vessel]

This game continues to be a fashion show i see…

[vagrant fable]

I think they mean a hairstyle is more significant to how one chooses to express/portray themselves in game as opposed to a prop

[sinful bough]

I mean yeah, whatever the shield feature would look like, people will still wear it or carry it around because of the protection it grants you, but I can understand how giving such an important feature like that to hairstyle would feel limiting to some, since it's a big part of how they present themselves in the game.

[hasty vessel]

I think it would be nice if each hair had a specific quality, not just shield, maybe one allows you to open a 2-4 player door by yourself, one makes your cloak invisible ect ect

[ashen tusk]

The elders could give us smelly old flip flop to carry around as a shield, I do not care, I just think as we have unlocked an entire constellation(s) we deserve a free perk but so far the elders only have hair to offer so if tgc don't intend to add anything more to elders, the least they could do is power the hair up

[spice turtle]

That sounds actually nice

[vagrant fable]

I just want a cape that works as a raincoat and makes you lose light from rain slower

[ashen tusk]

that sounds like hell

[shadow stratus]

Constelation pendants would be cute
I want a jar pendant

[hasty vessel]

Damn please elaborate?

[carmine thorn]

Pendant only when you 100% even tier two nodes.

[visual temple]

You clearly don’t understand. I never said anything about fashion, let alone “show”. I talked about wearing what I feel good in. If I’m going to spend hours looking at my skid, I want them to look pleasing to the eye. None of the Elders’ hairs meet that criteria for me.

Now if you please, quit being rude about how others like their skids to look. This game isn’t about cosmetics, but cosmetics are a big part of it.

[shadow stratus]

Nah cuz tier 2 nodes doesnt even count for the 100%

[hasty vessel]

Why are you getting so emotional about a suggestion that hasn’t even entered the game? Calm down. You literally described a fashion show hunny

[queen wedge]

[ashen tusk]

sometimes I wonder if these bugs escape into beta so tgc can get a reaction to potential features that they haven't fully intended to release, like with seasons and events the majority of the content we get they do intend to release to live in some form, but dropping a shield in there just to see what happens and then taking it away as a 'bug' is an interesting way to get more opinions and suggestions on an underdeveloped feature

[glacial barn]

Welp, I'll come back later

[shadow stratus]

I mean we dont know if the shield is for a future coming or if its something they already scrapped so, waiting it is

[sinful bough]

Well I'd say it's pretty convenient that this shield "bug" decided to slide in during this season in particular.. what are you hiding tgc?

[spark lance]

Several Bodies inside their cellar

[ashen tusk]

I'm saying

[shadow stratus]

Im assuming that if we dont see the shield returning on the next big update they just scrapped it

[narrow current]

yeah the fact a whole animation and icon happened aswell, things like that don't happen as "bugs" the feature and animations have to specifically be coded to be attached to the item and taking damage to work properly.
In most senses of the word it was a fully functioning feature

[hasty vessel]

It’s a really good feature though, i hope they try and implement it somehow

[spark lance]

Have some peeps tried out the shield feature when it was still available?

[sinful bough]

If that's truly the case then I hope they're working on a better way to balance everything that's come from this new season so far. A shield would be pretty useful if it stays the way it is.

[shadow stratus]

People are just not getting what they said the bug was, the feature being enabled was the bug, not the feature itself

[visual temple]

There’s nothing emotional, I’m quite calm. You’re making a scene out of it. Please stop picking on me. That’s twice I’ve asked you now. You’re entitled to your opinion, I’m entitled to mine, no need to be disrespectful and imply things that are untrue.

[vagrant fable]

I thiiiink that when they said it was a bug they were referring to it being implemented right now, as opposed to at some other time, but that's my guess

[kindred fossil]

You’d be surprised how many fully coded, fully functioning scrapped features slip through, such as the Light Awaits shard quests that were spread throughout the realms were magically activated once upon a beta build

[carmine thorn]

A fashion show is an event where a designer shows off their new products... I don't see how they described this in their posts. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fashion show

[hasty vessel]

Im seriously not picking on you and apologise if i made you feel that way, i just think it’s a good feature and if they implement it as an elder hair feature it wouldn’t stop you from expressing yourself

[ashen tusk]

light awaits shard quests?

[narrow current]

Interesting, i appreciate everyone's insight

[vagrant fable]

Trying to dress the way you like is not really a fashion show

[nova bay]

tgc smelly old flipflop cosmetic when

[shadow stratus]

Thet actually made their way to live too, resulting on a server crash (for yourself) when finished lol

[sinful bough]

Who's flip flop is it though

[ashen tusk]

honestly I had uncle iroh on the brain when I typed that, but agreed, tgc give the people what we want

[carmine thorn]

La chancla? Yes, pls

[kindred fossil]

I honestly don’t remember that 😭

[hasty vessel]

Lets not act as if there isn’t a “flexing” culture within sky… please

[vagrant fable]

Gramma's I think

[shadow stratus]

The meditation circles werent there but if you knew where it was using beta, you could sit and it would proceed normally, until you finished it and server crash

[carmine thorn]

I never said there wasn't flexing toxicity in the game, please don't put words in my mouth.

[vagrant fable]

There is, but that's not what Dharma was referring to, simply how they wish to express themselves in game, to which I relate, despite liking elder hairs

[pale junco]

What's the point of this 💀 lets return to a beta topic

[ashen tusk]

thinking of something to get the beta topic back on the rails and away from flexing vets

which frozen memory is your favourite not including the final one?

[vagrant fable]

Elder hair shield, was how it started

[visual temple]

For some, yes, and that’s regretful. But it’s definitely not my case, and nothing in my posts lead to suppose it was.

[pale junco]

Well it's no longer about hair shields

[narrow current]

Whales. It irks me we don't have whale related cosmetics and only a call to this day

[spark lance]

Let's talk about... Taming Krills? How to train your Krill even though it's not Beta related

[vagrant fable]

Krill one, it looks so dramatic and cool

[hasty vessel]

ANNYYYWAAAYYYYYY…. What are your tips and tricks for deflecting the red shard crabs?

[sinful bough]

Mine was probably the jellies or krill. The crab one was a bit plain and the Manta and whale ones just freaked me out tbh 😅

[queen wedge]

Click on all the memory candles

[nova bay]

Love them all tbh.

[shadow stratus]

Just keep jumping to left and right lol
Sounds silly but a lot of videos i see people are not doing that

[spark lance]

Lead them away with HONK

[ashen tusk]

I think visually, the krill and jellyfish were my favourites, still couldn't tell you their purpose but they looked pretty cool

The whale thing I agree with, someone said the manta ult cape was a whale cape to start with and I thought it could have been until the wings spread and it looks like someone got the prairie manta on a chopping board to fillet it

[vagrant fable]

Jump and pray you don't land on another one

[kindred fossil]

Jump like a maniac, unfortunately I enjoy this

[carmine thorn]

You avoid them same as normal crabs, drift lazily to the left (movie reference, sorry) and get out of their path of charging.

[spark lance]

||throw them off the bridge 🤠||

Honking actually helps tho. It draws them to you and you can make them follow you to places where they don't bother you anymore

[sinful bough]

I just 360 my camera to watch which crabs are charging at me and then jump out the way or fly up. They're not really that fast if you see them coming to you lol, but it's a lot more difficult when there's a whole posse of them around you

[visual temple]

Ohhh, question: how many winged lights did you find?

The quests were so bugged that I didn’t get to explore the memories as I should have.

[narrow current]

Idk how to trigger this but i love when sometimes crabs are just flying through the air in birds next not even close to the shards or dark plants

[vagrant fable]

3, one in manta, one in crab and one in whale memory

[kindred fossil]

3, I wish they were 4 so I can make a dumb meme

[sinful bough]

Oh are we able to visit the memories again through the quest guide now? Or is that still bugged?

[split sundial]

Use butterflies!! I know they can be annoying but they can help you lots, lifting you into the air, dodging crabs and recharging your light!! It worked for me very well cleaning the shards in Sunny Forest
I know that not all shard places have butterflies but when they do,,, please use them cause they are a lifesaver

[spark lance]

It sucks that you can't relive the memories without redoing the whole cleans darkness torture so you can collect them

[visual temple]

Thank you! I found the one in whale, searched for it in manta but couldn’t find it, and crab, well… I don’t even remember what realm they are associated with lol

[spark lance]

Why do I have the funny feeling that as soon Season of Shattering comes live it will infuriate half of the Sky Players? TGC is literally being so ignorant. Change my mind, but I am mad at them.

[rugged kayak]

that feels like a bug honestly, given the QG's tree has the "do you want to relive this memory?" text. but who knows i certainly hope it's a bug at least

[spark lance]

TGC. That Greed Company.

[vagrant fable]

It's already infuriating half the beta players, I wouldn't be surprised

[narrow current]

Tbh i feel most of the live player base is oblivious to things we beta players notice.
So i feel while there might be uproar, most people might also just be chill and complain about crabs or crawling once in a while

[hasty vessel]

Is it silly of me to hope that we still have one major update to come in beta? Most of our feedback seems pretty unanimous, i can’t imagine them not taking any of it inter consideration

[visual temple]

I’m certainly hoping for one

[vagrant fable]

They have mentioned the "other half of the season" will come in 0.18.5, whatever that means

[rugged kayak]

devs have also said that the shattering stuff in beta is just the "first part"; not everything they want in the season or whatever is in the game yet. so i guess we'll just have to wait and see what the "second part" update of shattering will give us

[spark lance]

It's a last spark of hope but personally I think that's it. The entire season is... This. Seriously this damned season seems so RUSHED and TGC is literally like "Hahaha pain in the *** goes brrrr"

[narrow current]

Well i didn't know about this "first" and "second" part detail, that certainly gives me hope

[kindred fossil]

I’ve heard the “this is only the first part” statement times too many, I’m not entirely optimistic

[hasty vessel]

They seriously mentioned “other half”?!!!! I thought that was just a rumour

[vagrant fable]

We don't have the back pain icon anymore, sad /j

[rugged kayak]

me too honestly @ dark

i still really really hope this season is delayed

[split sundial]

You are not alone.... I have the same hopes for Shattering
We are still in version 0.18.0 and we are missing 0.18.5
0.19.0 should be the testing for the season after Shattering

[ashen tusk]

#beta-discussion message

[spark lance]

I am sorry if I am "a little" mad about TGC and this season, but can you blame me??? It's so broken, this damaged crawling is ruining me.

But yeah personally I think TGC doesn't give a damn about this season, they just toss it in hoping us to eat this rotten pile of... Season

[kindred fossil]

Ash is not working on the current beta season so I’m not too sure entirely, are you perhaps referring to this instead? #beta-discussion message

[split sundial]

I just feel like we are running out of time and Shattering needs more polishing

[narrow current]

Tbh... I kinda just internally accepted our feedback may not do much. And we will get this mess or something close to it in live.

[ashen tusk]

Wouldn't say they don't give a damn, devs work hard to bring us content, doesn't mean we'll always like it but I don't think that means they don't care. Be zero point in having beta testers recruited from their live playerbase if that was the case.

[rugged kayak]

it's ok to be angry, i'm certainly not happy about this very rushed season either, but i do think you are letting you're emotions get the best of you right now. i think you should step back and cool off, i do hope you'll feel a bit better soon either way.

[queen wedge]

Still hoping for an update for my visually impaired folks, but I don't think it's happening anytime soon I fear Haven't logged on beta since I got migraines for 2 days, if this comes to live then I'd be forced to step away from that too

[visual temple]

Honestly, it feels not only rushed (as everything they do lately), but also as if they don’t give a dang anymore.
The new constellation is 6 months Live and still very bugged; half our friends can’t be lit.
Swimming mechanics are… swimming mechanics. As for the swimming area… there’s nothing there.

[ashen tusk]

Ash isn't working on shattering, no, but the link I shared was her commenting on shattering during that particular discussion. But yes Ktjn also confirmed further about 0.18.5 (I hadn't actually seen that comment myself, so thanks for sharing it again!)

[vagrant fable]

And I thought Abyss was disappointing...
Now Shattering wins

[spark lance]

Alright, I'll calm down. But honestly this season definetly needs more polishing. At least a month is needed to fix this broken mess.

[short sage]

like maybe they could extend days of rainbow, so maybe we’d have a chance to actually get the super expensive igc items, and they could work on shattering a little more..?

[split sundial]

Hoping next week brings 0.18.5 because man 💀

[narrow current]

Days of sky is also on july though hmmm. But that could work

[split sundial]

I wouldn't be so persistent about 0.18.5 if it wasn't for the fact that there's _only 2 weeks left of Shattering testing _

[ashen tusk]

Well I can't say they don't work hard enough or put in minimal effort because I'm not at their offices to comment on that, but I do know it takes more than the bare minimum effort to maintain and develop a live game and the devs we see around here barely scratch the surface of the full team - even these devs who take time to drop by and talk with us are doing so in their free time between meetings etc. so again, I'd personally not assume anything about their efforts aside from that.
I'd also feel sorry for any devs who do drop by seeing someone say they don't work hard enough and put in no effort, cause like that sucks to hear in any job you're doing from someone who doesn't know your efforts on the inside.

[shadow stratus]

Pretty sure that we should not rely on beta countdowns

[queen wedge]

There are plenty of upcoming events to keep players interested if they ever decided to extend, which they should
It'll give many enough time to cr too

[visual temple]

This can’t be happening. This can’t be happening. This can’t be happening…

[spark lance]

Unless they extend testing time for another 2-4 weeks, they will never be able to polish this season within time before the
final countdown~ hits

[split sundial]

True. But until devs do not confirm the opposite I will still believe it

[vagrant fable]

Welp, I'm off to cr for the rest of Postman stuff, see ya chat

[shadow stratus]

I honestly think the season will end soon to maybe test how things will happen when the season is not here

[carmine thorn]

Puts on tinfoil hat Maybe Shattering was planned to "shatter" the community to help enforce the "collab season" and get more feedback from live players to prevent the atrocity of Shattering to happen again.

[ashen tusk]

They've told us before to not rely on countdowns in beta, or did I imagine that?

[spark lance]

Stock up on Eden Candles in Live you.all. Stock up before it's too late

[split sundial]

I know. I am aware. Never trust anything in beta. But there's no denial we are running out of time whenever the timer is correct or not

[spark lance]

Oh my God... THAT'S WHY ITS CALLED SEASON SHATTERING BECAUSE--- it shatters our hopes and dreams for a good season, WHEEZE I need help

[shadow stratus]

We can also test the season without having the season on

[viscid sundial]

In beta faq it literally says "countdown timers are often wrong"

[visual temple]

Live players are doing just that atm. Hence my saying that the season intended to render Eden more meaningful provoked a massive exodus from it.

[cinder chasm]

I can’t believe krill horn isn’t a genuine instrument? I would really like it to function like a regular horn instrument but with a slightly different, maybe lower or longer or rumbly sound. The base game horn instrument sounds amazing with music sheets, better than flutes in most cases. Sadly I found assembly’s bugle too piercing and overwhelming for music sheets or general use. So I’d really like if krill horn was like a slightly different base game horn sound for music sheets benefit instead of a one note noise maker

[narrow current]

I doubt the season gets much delay if any either since i believe there is 2 season coming after shattering, one which sagomay is actually working on and then the collab at the end of the year. But maybe im misremembering

[split sundial]

Pulls my hair. I know

[spark lance]

I want Krill horn to tame krill. That would be something

[short sage]

krill are terrifying i would cr so hard for a krill horn

[visual temple]

I want useful props

[spark lance]

What are you talking about Krill are gorgeous

[viscid sundial]

Then let's not rely on an incorrect countdown

[ashen tusk]

I don't mind the horn not being an instrument and only having one button if it actually had a functional purpose, like disorient krill? lure crabs? do something else? just something functional rather than noisy horn noises for no reason

[narrow current]

Awaiting the krill horn spammers in social areas when someone plays music

[spark lance]

Don't give me Ideas, Inue

[ashen tusk]

horn is classed as sound not musical instrument right?
then ima mute all your krill horn players when I wanna tickle the ivories

[kindred fossil]

Just to back them up, the final quest for Enchantment released the day after the season had just ended (which completely broke the game) the timer can definitely be correct (at times) but it shouldn’t effect future content… too much

[narrow current]

Not really sure, a cool fact i did come around was you can join peoples music sheets with it and it sounds like the basegame horn

[shadow stratus]

We had to do the abyss last quest after the season ended as well i think?

[ashen tusk]

everyday I manifest a dev to come by and tell us we're getting an off-season extension or something

[spark lance]

Speak your prayers

[shadow stratus]

Considering that we usually get updates in a monthly basis, i have a small feeling that we gonna have DoR and sky aniversary as a break
Im rlly hoping for that

[spark lance]

Also what is this Collab season people are speaking off, did I miss something?

[viscid sundial]

Iirc the last quest was released in the final few days of the countdown, but the game kept crashing so most people finished it after the season ended (I did it before the season ended by pushing through the crashes)

[pulsar blade]

Only one shard location?

[spark lance]

Or was this Collab season just a rumor? I think I saw a few people mention it here in this server?

[viscid sundial]

It's been announced already that the last season of the year will be a collab season, I'd have to find the exact blog posts though

[narrow current]

It was spoken about around when shattering was announced officially but they didnt release details or names only that it will come at the end of the year or around that time

E: oops i pinged

[spark lance]

Ooohhh I see. Ehh they could do SkyxJourney as "Collab" that would be great. Even though it's not technically a Collab since it's their game

[ashen tusk]

is beta down again or?

[narrow current]

Technically sony owns it. & In an old build of beta there was an outfit that dressed you in a full journey outfit i think i am not sure

[kindred fossil]

Mine’s fine

[spark lance]

Wait... Sony owns Journey? Is it because it was releases on PS3?

[ashen tusk]

nervously checks testflight to see if I've been bonked

all good, just my wifi

[kindred fossil]

Yes, that was during Light Awaits (& briefly, global launch/limited live,) they’re shrouded in mystery

[errant geyser]

What could the next Collab be

[narrow current]

I see.

I do hope one day we can come full circle with journey the journey call and vibe is so amazing

[spark lance]

What happened to Light Awaits? I heard it was a completely different Sky game? Was it?

[viscid sundial]

It was the pre-global release beta

[narrow current]

Apologies again if this is not fact, but i heard light awaits is actually the beta we play on today?

[ashen tusk]

has anybody done fire trial lately and like not been able to get past the 4th/5th candle because you run out of light and they don't seem to recharge you when you wait by them? I've submitted 2 reports already cause it happened as taller than moth and as chibi
just wondering if anybody else has had the same issue
is that a no

[rugged kayak]

ya sony owns journey (and flow and flower) cuz of contracts stuff!

[cosmic rivet]

Yes. Happened to me as well.

[ashen tusk]

idk what they've done to the latest update then because before that I could do it no problem and I assumed it was cause I used a resize and became tall but when I checked with chibi I had the same problem

[errant geyser]

can you guys imagine a mini crab pet that would be attached to you, it would run on your sky kid like a squirrel from a side to side shoulder to shoulder to a hand ,i guess a mini crab that would be crawling on you would be cool or at least .

[spark lance]

I would die from cuteness

[grim forge]

Fire trial is broken even on the live build, the only way I managed to see the candles was by taking advantage of how bright my computer monitor is and using a capture card to play on an OBS screen.

[merry pewter]

it is me or did the number of crabs in forest just double because this is ridiculous

[cinder chasm]

Yep I’ve been going to Eden every week which I have never really done before

[errant geyser]

There are 3 crabs

[copper scaffold]

Is anyone going to Eden together?

[merry pewter]

I mean the shard crabs, of which there's like at least 20

[errant geyser]

Oh lmao😂😂😂

[sinful bough]

Yeah I don't know why the shard in sunny forest is always so difficult. Alone or not the red crabs are watching your every move it seems

[spark lance]

I think your game is broken. Or TGC trolls you

[ashen tusk]

they fixed the practically invisible candle issue in beta though recently, I don't know if that went through to live yet or if it'll go through with the next update but I still think it's hard to see the candles unless you turn brightness up to max which sucks, but that's a separate issue from this one cause this one just makes you die after lighting 4 candles

[copper scaffold]

Is anyone going to Eden?

[spark lance]

Yoo... Why aren't the red crystal crabs like this emote here

WASTE OF POTENTIAL TGC, YEET!

[errant geyser]

Just bait them in to the cloud area and they will fall

[kindred fossil]

It’s very cramped there too, they must really love Grandma’s famous mystery-grey-wax-spheres

[ashen tusk]

Speak of the devils, I'm here now and I'm alone except for my enemies the hell crabs and they are mean

[spark lance]

Roast them

[kindred fossil]

Also, when crabs toss you around it feels like a game of pinball, especially when you land on an active shard

[ashen tusk]

They're treating me like a pinball

[kindred fossil]

Eyyy, the stars aligned

[copper scaffold]

Does anyone pay attention to me?

[spark lance]

I'd like to help you but I am too lazy, you go Bubba...! eats some crabs flesh at a campfire Wooooh, we are rooting for you*

[narrow current]

#beta-looking-for-group

[sinful bough]

I was also launched straight into a shard today trying to do the event alone and I just quit the game after that lol

[maiden pond]

Honestly, as a response to the crystal crabs hitting downed players still, I think it should be treated just like how Call of Duty treats the player when they are knocked down but not out by a zombie in zombie mode. The zombies completely ignore a player that is down but not out, and goes for the player that is not down.

[spark lance]

Wrong chat, man. Go to #beta-looking-for-group and not here.

[ashen tusk]

Shoutout to the butterflies for helping recharge me when I lost my wings so I could go get them back before being bonked back into the shards again by hell spawns to lose my wing lights again for the butterflies to help me again

[narrow current]

I like this analogy as someone who likes that game-mode a lot

[copper scaffold]

OK, thanks

[strong sentinel]

I actually had the crab throw me through the whole sunny forest when I didn’t manage to float up in time. That some epic kick power for a crab…

[merry pewter]

you know what I love, losing a wl bc got knocked ito a shard by a crab just as the quest finished 😌

[queen wedge]

Nothing tests my patience more than getting knocked down at sunny forest

[copper scaffold]

But there is no one on that channel.

[maiden pond]

Season of Shattering really implies more that your winged lights will all shatter instead.

[ashen tusk]

Ran away to the bridge to type this all out in the hopes the crabs wouldn't get me but I got bonked off the edge and lost another wing light only to be yeeted into the clouds below so I was recharged and could fly up to recollect my wing light, much to the chagrin of angry friend

Update: still haven't managed to burn even a quarter of the dark plants

[spark lance]

Just ask there and wait, by the love of megabird
And if that doesn't work go alone

[kindred fossil]

Didn’t know they’re into football too, next thing I know I’m being turned into a frisbee disk

[copper scaffold]

Haha Ok, I'll Try It.

[ashen tusk]

Relate so bad to that one flipped regular crab here cause I too am wriggling helplessly on my back for the majority of this event

[narrow current]

Imagine if made You blend in with the crabs

[merry pewter]

also I have completely given up on finding the wl in the big whales memory
I lost way too many wl to those crabs today to have patience for this

[kindred fossil]

Normal crabs don’t join in the fun like their corrupted elders, thought this game was about teamwork

[spark lance]

It's placed at a very hidden spot, so eh

[ashen tusk]

Now using the floating dark plant as a safe haven whilst my cat comes to me for cuddles, now is not the time Navi, now is certainly not the time

[sinful bough]

I honestly thought that's what the crab emote did when I was a wee little moth, and then I got bonked into oblivion so safe to say I was very wrong on that.

[narrow current]

Would be a fun feature tbh hehe

[kindred fossil]

That would’ve been way too good, but it didn’t work that well either for the spirit themselves

[ashen tusk]

My sky kid has taken the phrase "do a flip" very literally here, send help

[queen wedge]

Providing emotional support

[spark lance]

Crabs don't care what do they still bonk you. But did you know that crabs get purified when they are chilling at the Graveyard Campfire with you? They just stop attacking you ath the campfire and just chill there with you.

[narrow current]

they saw the barbeque and decided to stay on our sky kids good side

Since we are mentioning peaceful crabs. I love spending time with the ones at that small island in sanctuary, so cute

[ashen tusk]

This shard is impossible solo

[kindred fossil]

Toss ‘em over the bridge

[narrow current]

From My experience this one feels like it has the most amount of crabs.
Very overwhelming

[ashen tusk]

I will never forsake the butterflies again, these little golden nuggets of wonder are truly keeping me from going pity room
Just got bonked through the wall of granny's????

[sly pecan]

Butterflies and mantas coming in clutch >>>

[spark lance]

Since when are you in Beta? Which season?

[kindred fossil]

It has around the same amount as Ark more or less, but Ark is very desolate & spacious there’s a lot of maniac-jumping room (& a whole football field)

[ashen tusk]

I'm begging for a merge because I cannot burn these lights from the dark plants quick enough

[minor falcon]

not even the crab STAR pin flips the crystal crabs

[sinful bough]

There's a what??

[kindred fossil]

A crab STAR pin

[minor falcon]

flipped crab STAR pin "releases a powerful shockwave that flips nearby crabs"

[spark lance]

Oof, since you have trouble with burning the darkness I would have suggested to take the Tiki Torch from Assembly with you (the Tiki torch is the most important prop for a solo player) so it can recharge you. But since you entered in Performance you can't do that.

[kindred fossil]

Vine boom sound effect

[spark lance]

Did anyone notice that fire trial is bugged?
My avatar doesn't stay charged even at the checkpoint lamps.

[ashen tusk]

I think I failed? Now the shard egg is honking at me and the crabs are still angry and the mini meteorite shards are still wiggling and I'm scared

[kindred fossil]

It was nice knowing ‘ye

[sinful bough]

Isn't that just what a normal deep call does? Or am I thinking about it wrong-

[ashen tusk]

I got ascended candles but at what cost why is the shard egg honking at me

[minor falcon]

the pin effect is more powerful and reaches a bit wider

[maiden pond]

@minor falcon question for you, you have the box of courage, by any chance?

[minor falcon]

I don't no, but I know people who have it

[ashen tusk]

Okay time to home and try again I guess, wish me luck

[maiden pond]

Darn. OK, I wanna see someone use the Dark Dragon STAR pin, cause I like seeing winged light randomly yeet out.

[kindred fossil]

Ooh that pin is really fun, haha

[minor falcon]

I'd love to see if you start crawling after you use it in 0.18.0

[ashen tusk]

sorry to whoever was having back pain wing light being lost just now at granny's, saw the help button but was stuck meditating

[torn girder]

wait there is a krill pin? dang that’s evil

[narrow current]

Yep you krill your own wl, its quite funny, although people usually think you are hacking when you use it from what i saw with a friend in live

[torn girder]

hajssh, this pin is made to make yourself suffer, that’s funny

[ashen tusk]

watching someone be yeeted by devil crabs when they don't appear on your own screen is an interesting thing

[minor falcon]

I'd prefer not to be used as a crawling skid pinball in a red crystal maze, thanks

[torn girder]

this happened to me and Deroko once, for some reason event didn’t start for me

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[ashen tusk]

the shard schedule is really messed up lately, I'm trying to record the start point but I don't know when that is because the sky is all red and the forest is all dark but there are no shards

[boreal shell]

where are the shard locations today in forest?

[iron elbow]

yeah, agree
when I was doing graveyard shard the other day, me and another person waited for about 10 minutes for anything to fall?? it was so frustrating
but now i just kinda always stumble upon a shard wherever I go

[ashen tusk]

Also tried to do the relive memory thing to go back for wing light and when I redid the shard again it just took me to the final memory
I did have fun visiting there again though #beta-screenshots-videos

[maiden pond]

Just did some rescuing in Eden and have to say, having 11 wedges makes me feel OP. I guess this could be different once Shattering comes.

[echo mason]

Omg is there changes at the krill horn?

[maiden pond]

I got hit multiple times by rocks and lost only half my energy.

[fervent ridge]

I can say actually with 11 wedges it's like a stroll in the park with the current Eden on beta, but at certain points you just can't keep your light and crawling makes it harder

[stray thorn]

Question for upcoming season^^

So I’ve seen that the Season of Shattering only has 2 spirits ( thus far ). However, the Ultimate Reward capes are both 2 Season Hearts each. Does that mean that each spirit will give 2 hearts, or will you only be able to choose 1 cape? ( I really hope it’s not the 2nd option, I really want both capes lol )

[fervent ridge]

Since the trees of the spirits were separated (even so it's the same "2 spirits") each have one heart so you can buy the capes

[stray thorn]

YAY Thank you!

[craggy elbow]

god clearing granny fragment alone is HELL
we need a shield spell or something this is insane

[ashen tusk]

I'm gonna go eden tomorrow in beta with 6/7 wedges I think, just to get the feel for how a less buff player would experience it, but I'll be going with a friend hopefully too so I won't be able to report back on soloing with fewer wedges this time round.
were you solo with 11?

[fervent ridge]

Solo and the prop from juggler, my "mistake" I think was going with tall height, I had to use a chibi potion at some point when the rain becomes more hard to deal, and the walls than supposed to protect you aren't the best when you're tall

[ashen tusk]

I always chibi in eden because the walls never protect me

[boreal shell]

where can I find a guide for shard time and locations?

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first

[low stream]

Hmmm At first there were only two "spirits" but there have been four, for the past couple of weeks. And they juggled around all the accessories and removed the 85🕯️ items. Check again and make sure you have the latest version

(spoiler question - only for those who have finished all the quests...)

||Has anyone tried the new friendship ability gained when finishing the Guide's tree?||

[sterile cobalt]

im still too unmotivated to do all of the quests so idk

[low stream]

I completely understand that. The Season of Suffering is lethal and aggravating

[maiden pond]

There's a new ||friendship ability?|| thought this season had no spirits and emotes?

[ashen tusk]

the what now? there wasn't one when I finished it? just a heart

[low stream]

||I completed the Guide Tree and was about to walk away when the diamond offered me a heart in hand (as if to unlock a friendship tree level.) Once I accepted it, it said a new friendship ability had been unlocked. The Guide Tree showed no changes. I don't have any friends in Beta with high-enough branches to test it out.||

[maiden pond]

That's most definitely a bug, then.

[ashen tusk]

all I got from void guide was a heart, why doesn't it wanna be my friend too I love that little shard with all my soul and this is what I get

[low stream]

Perhaps, but I have no way to reproduce it now.

[fervent ridge]

Really? I guess since always did Eden with taller height I feel chibi it's better, still... Looking your videos I found myself the same struggle or trying to cover and still getting hit

[low stream]

Sometimes you need to crouch behind the boulders. Beats getting stuck in the cracks.

[vagrant fable]

That happens with some other spirits too after you interact with them, it's a bug

[low stream]

Good to know - thanks!

[timid valve]

I’ve had this bug before with a previous spirit guide. It was Abyss I believe. They offered me a candle of friendship Idk what causes it but it’s kinda cute lol

[low stream]

Kinda cool - haven't seen that before. I think any friendship interactions with a glowing diamond would be fairly limited (gimme five, bro ... don't leave me hangin'!)

[low stream]

Y'all getting the impression that there will be no quick trips back to "visit a memory" to reclaim WLs lost in Eden or elsewhere? Seems you may need to redo a quest on the proper day to return to a specific memory zone, sort of like going through Prophesy's trials again. If true, this implies that the shards and red crabs are here to stay, like the trials. Thoughts?

[visual temple]

My thoughts on redoing these sort of tedious and time consuming tasks on a daily (cr) or weekly basis (WL):
That was the whole point of having glitches.

Part of the TGC unique experience was how liberal they were with letting their players experiment with glitches. It allowed us to have a real life by cutting the cr time in half when needed, too.

It feels like more and more areas of the world are closed up to solo players (and those who don’t have friends who like living on the edge).

[gilded parrot]

Did someone call the fun police??

[shadow stratus]

I think we gonna be alright, probably gonna have to do just one event and use the guide to go trough the memories, no big deal

[spark lance]

i agree that tall height isn't able to get enough cover but in continuous rain when we r walking, i felt chibi falls a lot more.
It doesn't matter now because Chibi or tall everyone's gonna crawl a slow death haha

[wheat panther]

Sigh. The shard at granny’s was the most frustrating XD

[random edge]

If you can team up (did this with a random person) and have one person look for wl while the other(s) burn and get hit, it can actually be ok. Still wish there were just fewer crabs though.

[pine wagon]

Hey guys

[keen arrow]

Hi can I know how to join beta sky?

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[dry skiff]

invites open periodically, but with no specific date set in mind. just as and when they need testers. usually they open them every 3-4 months, but that's not exactly a given. if I had to guess, they'll be open around august-september

but please don't take my information as something set in stone. this is just from my general observations. they could also turn around and be like they don't need any till next year.

[ashen tusk]

pspspsps tgc doot?
I know it's the weekend, I'm just manifesting a doot in the upcoming week

[keen dawn]

Has anyone noticed the bug in the fire trial? The light doesn't replenish even when you are close to a candle

[misty path]

does anyone know how many days the season of shattering is gonna last? or is it not confirmed yet?

[elder inlet]

dont think its confirmed yet,but the estimate was around 70 days(?) from the discussion here

[oak field]

This problem has been around for a long time but TGC didn't fix it, it looks like it took more than 100 people to report it, then TGC fixed it
#beta-bugs-android message

[misty path]

ooo tysmmm!!!

[hollow storm]

[hollow compass]

You do actually have to stop by the candle for a while. Look at the light meter at the top. You can't run from one candle to the next. Fire trial has always been like that.

[glacial barn]

I give up, which whale has the wl? Or did they remove it?

[elder inlet]

the last big whale memory? i think the wl was in the first closest whale mouth

[random edge]

On the left side of that whale - I thought it was on its flipper 😂 🐋

[hollow compass]

Yes, the one straight ahead.

[elder inlet]

those statues are really dark lol i never knew it was the mouth until someone pointed it out

[glacial barn]

The one doing the nose dive? Will check again ^^;

[random edge]

I started using glow spell in there. Needed it today to find a manta to land on to recharge while searching for the wl. Found it finally

[elder inlet]

fortunately the wl glows from afar so it wasnt too hard to land but the hidden one-

[hollow compass]

Are you on Androids? I'm on iOS and didn't find the memories particularly dark. But the regular "seasonal room" is, otoh.

[random edge]

I’m on IOS and I play with my screen darker as is so there is that

[glacial barn]

I'm on android - this is the first wl I've struggled to find... speaking of, whales left, or my left when facing it?

[hollow compass]

No, just straight ahead. The lowest one maybe?
Oh, wait, you mean the wl. To the left when facing it.

[glacial barn]

Ty ^^;

I will get this wl darn it :P

[elder inlet]

wait is it somehow related? im on android and the memory is dark dark to the point i cant see anything maybe i shouldve tried adjusting my phone brightness to the max

[hollow compass]

The game was originally designed for and probably optimised the best for iOS, since there is only one version of it. Android (and Switch) seem to vary a lot in picture quality.

[glacial barn]

Still can't find wl ^^;

[elder inlet]

it is in the lil crack of the mouth so try looking around in there

[random edge]

You can’t see it from above the whale. Fly at it from the left side

[glacial barn]

That's where I've been looking, in the mouth ^^;

[hollow compass]

You have to get into the mouth of it.

[random edge]

I have to keep my brightness level lower or my phone heats up. So glow spell it is

[glacial barn]

Starting to wonder if I'm too small or what ^^;

Aren't wl supposed to have a beacon effect? I've been looking for that, but all I'm getting is pitch black

[hollow compass]

Yes. Maybe it's gone somehow? I saw someone else not being able to find the wl in the manta memory.

[glacial barn]

I hope it's not because of the latest patch ^^;

[raw wasp]

Its not gone, its that when you enter the room the winged light is hidden from your perspective, and therefore the halo doesn’t appear until you fly upwards

[hollow compass]

I didn't have any trouble finding it.

[boreal pelican]

L

[glacial barn]

I spent nearly forty five minutes searching for it... I think the whale one is gone. My reasoning - I am usually pretty adept at finding hidden things in games, and I had three people here attempting to help me. Those conditions should be more than adequate for finding a wl

[hollow compass]

That is so strange. I wonder why it's now gone.

[vagrant salmon]

What happened to quest n4? I can't find it or complete it !!! Is it changing place or what! 🙂

[cursive tinsel]

You just need a red shard with a creature quest to complete any seasonal quest.
You could even use the same shard on a day to complete all 6

[vagrant salmon]

Really!!?? So the quest is not specific!!!!

[cursive tinsel]

The seasonal quests are not place specific in the realms but they do require a certain type of shard event

[vagrant salmon]

So for today i just need to go to valley? That should do it!

Jeez thanks i was stuck for the quest for a while now! I don't understand anything about this quest😂 wierd!

[keen dawn]

I beg to disagree. Before, when you stand by a candle, the light meter fills up almost immediately. Now, it won't even fill up and stays depleted.

[hollow compass]

I see. That's not my experience. Perhaps others can chime in, even though this isn't really beta anymore.

[pine wagon]

Hey guys I was getting beta but it never showed “beta is full” what do I do? (I have TestFlight)

[hollow compass]

What do you mean by you were getting beta? Did you accept an invite last time they were available?

[pulsar blade]

Wheres the shard today

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[hollow compass]

apparently up at the yeti house

[pulsar blade]

Ahahaha. I went the wrong place. I went the ark🤣🤣🤣🤣😂

[woeful obsidian]

How can we see other memories? I tryed to click relieve other memories but I don't think it's wotlrking right. Quest 1 was never the jelly But i was at jelly. So maybe memories are random? Or it depends on day?

[white latch]

"after this season end everyones gonna cry of happiness"

[woeful obsidian]

Yes... Finally has an end

[cursive tinsel]

Maybe the WL are missing from memories because we can't relive past ancient memories and its intended that way?
If so I hope the 3 WL turn up in the void/somewhere still

[pulsar blade]

So today has jellies. Im longing to see it. Its my decent first time visit

[sinful peak]

I am at Yehi house cannot see the shard

[iron elbow]

is yeti's shard supposed to be this hard or crabs just wanted our group of strangers dead

[oak field]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/618891214527266846/990193642184527962/SKY_20220625_165001_.jpg

Very high

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[kind prawn]

Single Shard location again?
Is this a bug that needs reporting or is it randomly going to be one location in some areas and two locations in others??

[sinful peak]

no shard for me

[kind prawn]

Do you get the “the darkness has fallen in…” notification?

If not, then wait for it, and then the shard will appear (today) at the yeti area

[glass spoke]

@nocturne creek #beta-screenshots-videos message
sadly we can't fulfill outfit requests here so you'll have to wait until the 30th

[woeful obsidian]

You have to wait. It comes after full and half hour.. So 5 - 6 minutes after

[sinful peak]

i already get it. thanks

[cunning trench]

hiiii how do we go back and see old memories?

[pale junco]

Currently the only way is to finish shard quest and teleport from there.

[cunning trench]

I did it just now but it only shows the last quest's memory..?

[pale junco]

Yes, the shards seem to show random memories

[glass spoke]

unorganized much, but are we surprised

[south citrus]

So they really are not changing the crawling mechanic?

I entered beta yesterday after a couple builds and went straight to Eden shards in forest and i lost many wl i couldn't stand up and there was no one nearby

[fervent ridge]

Shards near grandma are a pain tho

[coral cosmos]

i believe they adjusted the crawling mechanic a bit to make it so you crawl faster than before + it takes more damage to knock you down but i don't think they'll be removing the mechanic entirely

[quiet cliff]

Any idea when this hellish season is finished ! I’ll not be buying season pass for this one in live

[iron elbow]

tbh if not for a crawling mechanic, every shard event would be quick and unremarkable

[quiet cliff]

I agree , but the cosmetics are not great this time I only like the darkness cape and the manta dress

[languid ocean]

So how many candles do u get from doing a shard event?

[coral cosmos]

testing for this season should end in 13 days, but that time could be extended because there's a lot of concerns with the season that have not yet been resolved. as for when it starts and ends in live, no idea. though it should be the second to last season for this year, with the collab season coming up next

[glass spoke]

i really hope we get a longer break, maybe a month instead of two weeks, because tgc obviously needs to work more on the season, and i'd like a well-deserved break aswell

[fickle salmon]

yes, we still have a lot of testing to do.

[coral cosmos]

the best move for tgc to make is to extend the testing period for this season and listen to community feedback, especially with the lackluster and repetitive quests. i'm sure everyone would much rather have a longer break between seasons and have a fully fleshed out season instead of a quicker, dull season. i hope the next update will bring more life to the season

[buoyant berry]

Today shards only in hermit or other places too?

[hollow compass]

It'll be interesting to see if any of the Eden changes will make it into the live game already next week.

[maiden pond]

I think that's too quick, I'm not sure what you're referring to when you say Eden changes, but if you're referring to the constant rock rain changes, I doubt they'd release that early.

[hollow compass]

Why do you think it's too early?

[maiden pond]

Hmm, isn't it part of the upcoming season? I don't think it'd make sense to just change Eden's constant rock rain right before Shattering comes to live.

[peak geode]

hi guys, i have a question. i need to change my email in beta cause it will be deleted soon, but i can't and can't connect to facebook, will i be able to login with local tgc account if i delated my email?

[hollow compass]

No, the changes aren't part of the season, although they are incorporated into it due to the damage mechanism. But from my understanding, TGC is looking to change the experience of Eden specifically outside of other gameplay.

[maiden pond]

Ah okay, well then dang. Guess it's gonna be easier to do right up until Shattering comes, then?

[hollow compass]

FB login has been disabled in beta. You can't change your e-mail in beta, just like you can't in Live. Perhaps try to bind the account with something else, like Nintendo?

[hollow compass]

I'm not saying they will, but they have in the past introduced new mechanics to the live game without prior notice.

[maiden pond]

Alright, yeah. Makes sense, I've only been playing since January of 2022, hit 1,000 hours 50 hours ago, and I'm still learning heh.

[peak geode]

Well, I don't have a Nintendo, but I have a Huawei ID, thanks!

[naive trail]

collab season? :o

[ashen tusk]

we know nothing about it

[pine kindle]

I meannn, at least we have some pretty good cosmetics coming up with this season. I am sure it'll be perfect once beta testing is finally managed to a happy medium, where the players agree everything is balanced

[golden steppe]

So normally i get from 2 AC but sometimes it can go up until 3/4 AC. Idk how it really works but seems like if you collect more stuff from the shards' event you get more AC. This doesn't work with the dark shards (or at least i didn't see any difference between each wax)

[nova bay]

One time i had not participated at all@in burning wax (too busy playing with the crabs) but shard was still there and i got around 4 AC

[open sierra]

It's only that deep call cant relight someone who is extinguished right? And after lighting them with candle, then you can recharge them with deep call?

[vocal wadi]

any one knows where the shard of darkness is today in the valley where
i amm very bad at finding it

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[spark lance]

hermit valley

[vocal wadi]

thank you

[echo mason]

Oh wait 13 days left on the season beta testing?? Damn it just started yesterday eh. They should extend it because uhhh the krill horn when you joined an music sheet it just sounded the horn on wasteland

[raw wasp]

The Days of Rainbow event is in like 5 days, i doubt we have any more testing to do at this point… seems like its coming to Live in its current state unless they specifically hold back shattering content

[sterile cobalt]

krill horn can join music sheets??

[spark lance]

tbh i'm kinda sad that the shards never fall in the village of dreams anymore. i really liked the more sunset like lighting when the shards were there

[obtuse moth]

will shard events happen after the season is over

[lyric kite]

I think the best guess is probably, but we don't really know for sure I think. TGC hasn't really said much about what will happen after the season so we'll have to see later on

[pale junco]

In the blog they said it's a permanent mechanic

[lyric kite]

I'm still wondering how the schedule will be in live though, because every 30 minutes for the rest of forever will get old real fast

[strong haven]

You guys think there's going to be another big update right? It would be horrific if not 🥵

[lyric kite]

Since testing for the season has slowed down considerably, I think we've probably reached the version (or close to the version) that will end up going live for 0.18.0. They'll probably push the update sometime next week before Days of Rainbow starts, I think the next major beta update will probably be for 0.18.5 testing

[cedar forge]

Does anyone know if the summer days event will come out soon in sky beta

[lyric kite]

We don't know what TGC plans to test ahead of time, if that event were to happen this year it would likely be tested soon, but we haven't heard anything about it yet

[dreamy grail]

Correct, and I'm wondering when Ash will drop by and tease us of anything upcoming like she mentioned that they're working on the season (like they did with Performance and flight) so we should see some pretty swag season to test 👀

@strong haven likely soon seems there's no 18.5 yet

@cedar forge likely in 2-5 weeks most :D

Seems DoR is finally over, we should see DoS/SL soon 🥺

[hollow compass]

I wish DoR had been given more space and development time. It had a lot of potential. Even though it ended up being annoying, I really liked those two spirits giving free hugs in Home space every day.

[gilded parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[pale junco]

[calm wedge]

Came already

[cursive tinsel]

Did we have days of summer already in beta?

It was days of rainbow that just finished testing no?

[dreamy grail]

DoS likely next update or the one after as a guess ^^
Summer and Summer lights maybe tested simultaneously or one after another, they may do like how they did with DoR and Anniversary

[versed dome]

How many regular candles a day can we get?

[carmine thorn]

Similar to live. After the 20th/21st it becomes unbearable for most to test a "max"

[shrewd needle]

I am putting this in feedback, but I also wonder if anyone else feels like this.

I have finally realised why I dislike this latest season so much. Until now, Sky has been an escape with peaceful realms that didn't give you any stress. This season spitting darkness and ultimate crabs into these spaces has left it so there is a hint of uncertainty looming over me, and has ruined them. In a way, it feels like losing innocence and having to see how trashed the real world is. Putting this in Sky has left it more like a reflection of real life stress instead of an escape from it.

[wary star]

we should keep the cosmetics but rework the season

[versed dome]

I apologize, about a year ago I wrote as feedback that I dearly wished for more krills, remade crabs with challenges and dangers awaiting us. Though having seen the crabs krill my comrades have been less and less what I desired

[glass spoke]

this tbh

[versed dome]

If anything this season has taught me how important going with one another is and getting through it. Making the experience and rewards truly feel earned for the hardships.
Similar to how getting through Eden the first time was, it was scary and intense if not very stressful but the ending must have been incredibly beautiful

[shrewd needle]

I could understand what you are saying, Clay. The issue to me is having it randomly happen in any realm instead of only happening in limited ones, like the krill.

[glass spoke]

this commend made me realize that my problem may be similar to yours, let’s try and write feedback about it if we can
either way, we NEED more time to test and more time before they release the season too

[versed dome]

Let's ask for more dangerous challenges 💪

[shrewd needle]

I would be fine with that, but just in limited spaces, like the trials.

[versed dome]

Like infiltrating a fortress of crabs in a maze and being rewarded with a giant rainbow popsickle on the back.

[glass spoke]

grandma with the crabs is a literal nightmare

[shrewd needle]

Maybe something like the 50 level dungeon of trials in Legend of Zelda and some other games? 😉

[glass spoke]

or the domains in genshin lol, either way, something that doesn’t disturb my lazy 10 minute long naps at grandma’s place
submitted feedback already!

[unreal marsh]

is there supposed to be a star/winged light in the Jellyfish Ancient Memory?

[shrewd needle]

I think it is in the whale memory.

[unreal marsh]

I remember finding one in the manta memory, I haven't revisited the whale memory (I didn't know there were wl in the memories until recently)

[shrewd needle]

As far as I know, there is only one at all from this season.

[lyric kite]

There are 3 winged lights in the various memories. One is in the memory with the crabs and flying plants, one in the memory with the mantas, and one in the memory with the whale

[shrewd needle]

Really... I only got the whale one.

[unreal marsh]

Was just about to come back and say that, I searched the term "stars" in this chat and found someone mentioning that, thanks for answering my question!

[random edge]

There is one at the very top point which I thought was in jellyfish. Is that considered crab/plants? It’s so dark in there I can’t really tell what each thing is. I was able to go back and get the manta and tuna king ones.

[lyric kite]

They were added after some of the memories had already been released, and right now it's difficult/impossible for some people to get back to the memories if you already completed the quests, so if you already did it before the winged lights were added then you probably missed them

[shrewd needle]

So, they are going to keep these darkness missions available after the season? That is so depressing to think of, I honestly might quit for good after being in beta for more than three years.

[unreal marsh]

You can relive the memories by completing a shard event after tapping the quest and the relive prompt, sometimes it can be finicky though

[lyric kite]

I believe eventually we are supposed to be able to view the previous memories from the guide's tree, but it's not working correctly at the moment

Also yes, the shard events are supposed to be a permanent new feature, although we don't know how frequently they will happen in live. In beta they were every 30 minutes for testing purposes to get data and feedback more quickly, but in live it will supposedly be different

[random edge]

I hear you and understand your thoughts. I do hope so though I don’t see them being there at the same frequency. I would rather do a few of these to get ascended candles and make Eden a trip I take for added wl after ts comes. Makes Eden less routine and its so much easier and quicker to get ascended this was. Also, how would new players get these wl if it wasn’t still in game?

[shrewd needle]

There is an easy fix. Make it in one area instead of overlapping existing.

[random edge]

No fun in that. I think just like trials, after the season is over you won’t be required to do the shards. You can just bypass them.

[lyric kite]

I mean, you're not really required to do the shard events even now, unless you want to complete the season quests, but even then you should only have to do it once per quest. One of the things people don't really like though is how the shard events affect the whole area by changing the lighting and making it dark and flashy even if you're not participating in the shard event. And some of the shards are on the main path of areas making it an inconvenience for people who just want to do their candle run and ignore the shards

[shrewd needle]

Having it outside of Grandma when she was there ruined things.

[hollow compass]

So many beautiful, peaceful places ruined.

[lyric kite]

It might be okay in live if the events are not very frequent, but it's just another thing to have to keep track of if you want to avoid it

[tribal walrus]

does anyone know the location of todays shard?

[coral cosmos]

hermit i believe

[tribal walrus]

hmmm, that’s where i am but it’s not showing up

[coral cosmos]

it takes a while to show up, maybe wait a bit longer and if it doesn't appear, try leaving and coming back.

[tribal walrus]

ok thanks!

[spark lance]

new season looks terrible, rip new moths btw🗿

[native kiln]

i wouldnt just boil it down to looking terrible, it has its pros and cons

[spark lance]

my friend i understand, but i have to disagree, this new season looks like tgc ran out of new spirit ideas and is just focusing on lore which 90% of sky players dont care abt🗿

[oak remnant]

What lore

[spark lance]

LOL

rip eden runs🗿

[visual temple]

Imagine the headache of getting those WL back when there’s no indication as to which memory is which, and the relive feature is non functional (given TGC’s history, it’ll probably be pushed live as it is and still be bugged two years from now)
I’m losing faith here.

[spark lance]

SAME AND OMG I 100% AGREE

everything is so bugged and y do we have to lose wl so easily???? like what is the point, i have a lot of vet friends that have said to me they r just going on hiatus or taking a break from sky during this new season(and onec again rip moths😔 )

[gilded parrot]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[viscid sundial]

I wish it focused on lore, Performance had more lore than this season lol

[spark lance]

omg😭 facts.. i was saying it had lore to be at least a little positive💀 👍

[visual temple]

Same, everyone around me is disheartened by the changes to come

[viscid sundial]

That's just giving it too much credit

[remote flame]

hey guys does anyone else kind of feel like the shards are going to get too in the way of candle running and just hanging out? the shards happen every day too so it's hard to avoid completely if you want to go to all of the maps. and they don't even disappear after you finish them

[visual temple]

Let’s face it. They took concept art (beautiful to be honest) and said Voilà, here’s a season

[oak remnant]

Not only concept art but they also use assets from light awaits

[remote flame]

also as for the lore it just makes it feel like everything with eden is getting worse and we don't really do anything to help that. i kinda wish the shards would just be a during season thing...

[spark lance]

yeah😔 all of the changes look so underwhelming while also being overwhelming and also the insignificant "events" to normal gameplay, like i dont want to get ac when im not in eden😔

[restive needle]

to be fair i think they have a right to use those assets lmao

[minor falcon]

I don't think the shards will get in the way if you don't particularly want to hang out on the exact spot it lands on it'll disappear if you return after 10 min or so

[visual temple]

Of course, we mean they took the easy way out and are going to charge the same for it

[remote flame]

i am mostly worried about the one by the granny table, that ones sucks

[oak remnant]

They do. Obviously.

[spark lance]

if these new changes tgc has made stay after the season i personally know A LOT of friends who will most likely quit sky😔

[visual temple]

And a lot of moffs

[restive needle]

I’d also argue that way more than just 10% of the playerbase doesn’t care about lore, i mean just peep the lore channel here. it’s just that there really isn’t a lot of concrete storytelling here in the cutscenes. the information that can be gathered is mainly relating to the creation of dark-creatures and some theories can be made about how dark plants are produced, as well as the probably large fact that Eden is undergoing some kind of eruption and is therefor unstable in some unknown way, but after that there’s not really much to grasp

[spark lance]

exactly😭

[visual temple]

There are cutscenes??? 👀

[viscid sundial]

I just feel bad for moths at this point, don't really care about it myself and might just skip out, but this season is not going to be friendly to them
I doubt it will keep them around either

[remote flame]

i might quit sky, i don't know how awful this will be in live but the other day i lost 15 wl because i was trying to burn the plants with only one other person and they were more focused on burning plants then helping me when i messed up 😓

[spark lance]

LOL but same i have no clue abt sky lore so insignificant

[oak remnant]

I think what is so painful is not the shard itself. But the added damage mechanic (crawling) which will lead people to frustration in certain circumstances

[restive needle]

not to say sky is well known for very concrete lore, which is both a good thing for lots of reasons and a frustration for others. but if anything I’d describe the actual lore facts we gain from this season don’t really do anything but broaden the understanding that Eden is really not a good time and is maybe getting worse somehow - which is really interesting! I think that having the effects on the realms outside of Eden is actually very compelling. the execution of it is the issue here

[spark lance]

EXACTLY i completely agree, also the fact that we cant relight ppl by just deep calling

[remote flame]

honestly i agree if that mechanic wasn't there it would be a lot less frustrating and the shard events would still be kind of hard like they want them to be, they would just be more possible for players with bad reflexes, less experience, or just bad luck

[visual temple]

I went to Eden yesterday; I got to pnr “mostly” in one piece, but then this stranger far behind me was getting smashed, they were so careless!!
So I went all the way back to help… winged lights everywhere… I didn’t count but I lost a ton

[spark lance]

100% agreed, tgc is making SO SO much content unfriendly to moths

i also have no idea y they r making cr ing routes unfriendly to the general population in sky, like y is tgc forcing us to participate in this terrible season

[visual temple]

YES. I would actually enjoy them without the new mechanics.

[oak remnant]

To be fair, I appreciate that they don't make it happening in all realms at the same time. It will just be unbearable.

[spark lance]

true💀

[remote flame]

also this is an issue even in live but they don't do a good job of telling you things about the game mechanics or events. with this new season it's kind of hard to find the shard, in live there is no information at all about the translator. i'm sure there are other things but that's the main ones i can think of right now

[spark lance]

but u know what gets me, its the fact that NO ONE asked for a season like this, i just wanted more emotes😭

[visual temple]

I agree. At the same time, they need to issue more specific indications. I lost hours running in circles searching for the right area. It’s already a time consuming season as it is.

[restive needle]

I think that there’s a way that this season could be made more fulfilling without adding anything like spirits or an entirely new storyline. I think that’s the most disheartening part of this: that this all could be really, really cool and a departure from the normal post-game monotony, but so much of the execution has been bungled for reasons I can’t really even fathom that I think it’s not really salvageable at this point. They COULD introduce some quality of life changes to make the experience overall not as frustrating, but considering that the more recent updates seem to just be minor glitch and graphical fixes I don’t think that we’ll actually get the changes that the playerbase is advocating for. It’s like they’ve made up their minds and all they will do about it is double down and brace for the backlash they know will get ten times worse once it hits live.

[visual temple]

I agree, it could have been so cool

[spark lance]

hmmm well i agree but i want spirits and emotes😭 there is so much more content tgc couldve given us before a season like this

[low stream]

Where is the charm?

[gilded parrot]

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! You may ask here if you are struggling, but together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience Remember to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well!

[visual temple]

Tbh, I don’t need spirits; as long as I have good gameplay

[remote flame]

yeah i actually think sky might be dying, it's almost 3 years old and it's no longer their most recent project so it wouldn't surprise me if they were taking a lot of effort away from working on sky to deal with their other games hence why this season is a lot less then usual

[restive needle]

I can only assume that these new mechanics like crawling are going to be a core part of the next collaboration season which is, like… then is this whole season is just a beta test even when it hits live?

[spark lance]

damn😔

[carmine thorn]

Honestly, the looks are nice and well fleshed out. The gameplay is what is horrible. It punishes players who are not 'hardcore.'

I let my casual GF try out the shard events and I quoted one of the staff by asking her "how do these new events make you feel." Her response: makes me feel like uninstalling the game and never looking back.

[restive needle]

I don’t think that Sky is dying necessarily. The mobile market is huge and especially in China. They’re successful enough to organize collabs. If anything Sky is probably more profitable now than ever, but I don’t have any real idea.

[low stream]

This season is all about friendships and playing together. The goal in pumping up ACs is to allow more friendship levels to be unlocked. However, many veteran players like myself run solo and also t stay in-game for more than 20-30 minutes. Also have no other need for tons of ACs

[visual temple]

It sure feels like so; which is completely unfair to the newer playerbase cluelessly throwing money at TGC. I already regret investing so much in a game that isn’t even giving basic satisfaction anymore if these mechanics go live permanently.

[remote flame]

i sort of like how they changed eden at least, i was never a fan of the endless rain. it probly would have been cooler though if the statues had different placement patterns depending on the week like some of the dark plants in wasteland and forest. that would make it at least a little less monotonous

[spark lance]

i agree, and i personally enjoy things like krill dodging but these events suck, basically unplayable bc no more deep call recharge after ur light goes out

[spark lance]

exactly, i am not a solo player anymore but i enjoy cr ing solo so these events r going to make things very annoying

[native kiln]

i really hope they bring deep honk to recharge back, i feel like its engrained in almost all of sky players and taking it away will cause even more backlash

[spark lance]

EXACTLY

[oak remnant]

It's just weird that they're taking away something that does not need to be taken away

[hybrid wedge]

We really don’t have any information though on how exactly the shard events will look in live. They’ve already said they won’t be as frequent as this, so they know that doing them every half hour isn’t good for a non-testing environment

[spark lance]

yes so weird and its such a useful in-game mechanic too

[native kiln]

but then if they bring it back, itd make the falling shards easier cause one person could be dedicated to honking and it takes away from the experience. so now i think theyve dug a hole for themselves bby making the shards the central purpose of the season cause changing the mechanics that receive negative feedback essentially changes how we interact with the shards

[remote flame]

they might have deemed it unfair because of the recharge candles people have been leaving with the memory candles. still i don't think that it's something that's so game breaking that it needs to go, if anything it brought people together more

[visual temple]

There’s nothing two extinguished players can do but honk hopelessly at each other. I don’t understand them taking that out of the game

[native kiln]

my idea, group/solo sky puzzles that reveal lore details let burning the shards reveal clues

[spark lance]

ahhhh i see, well interesting information tyty mod but still doesnt change my opinion on all of the in-game changes

[restive needle]

I think that if the season gets the same kind of reaction that it’s gotten in beta so far from the entire live audience however, that could potentially be an upset for the company. I don’t know. I might just be cynical because of my prior experience playing years of WoW and so I’m sort of experienced with these sorts of wildly unpopular game changes going live with little communication between the playerbase, receiving inevitable backlash, and then later on coming out with a statement about how they’re all about listening to their audience and they FINALLY offer a change. Not to imply that TGC is going to do that, I have somewhat more faith in them, but all of this is definitely making my alarm bells go off.

[native kiln]

i was thinking of exactly this!!! if group players all get extinguished - very easy if the group is 2-3 people. then its just a crawling fest of torture. do the butterflies come out of the darkness when its burned? im not in beta so im not really sure how theyre fixing that

[oak remnant]

They could also use recharge spell but smh- 😔

[remote flame]

yeah in some places but i don't think that's enough to help really, you lose light fast

[spark lance]

omg😭

[visual temple]

It’s pretty much a crawling/honking fest of torture. Plus, the camera does wonky things AND reduces your visual range, so you have no idea where your going

[native kiln]

ahh i see, and its worse when the crabs are so quick to attack

[remote flame]

touching the red crystals instantly makes you lose wl and then after that getting crabed makes you lose light as well and they can knock you into the crystals again

[spark lance]

[hybrid wedge]

Psure the crabs ignore you now when you’re fully extinguished though, so that version of beta wouldn’t be going to live

[native kiln]

oh yeah the vignette thing!! blinding us to the impending rage of the krebs 😭😂

[visual temple]

They gang up on you, 6 to one

[remote flame]

i haven't noticed that, i will go check

[native kiln]

thats good to hear, ive heard different conflicting info about the season. i once thought deep honk to recharge was back fully ;(

[oak remnant]

Here is to hoping, Nagati. But so far, that's what the Krebs do. Those krebs are rude brats 💀

[visual temple]

Really? You mean in a future update?

[spark lance]

idk how much better it makes things, it definitely makes it not as bad but i wouldnt say better

[visual temple]

I’ve been killed many times by the same crabs yesterday after I was extinguished

[heavy mountain]

i dont think ive seen a single good feedback about the gameplay of this upcoming season

[oak remnant]

Tbh I don't found the event difficult when being played solo. But after I encounter the one in grandma, oh boy 😂

[hybrid wedge]

But also, for the red shards—we can get ascended candles from those, so it doesn’t surprise me that we risk losing our stars trying to clear this darkness

[hybrid wedge]

Scroll up a bit, some folks were pointing out things they liked ^^

[spark lance]

yeah but..... we didnt ask for that-😭 😭

[heavy mountain]

ok ill take a look :)

[restive needle]

There’s a way to instill a sense of helplessness that I think that the game has already managed to pull off masterfully. I think that the Eden experience in live so far is very good at doing that - at least to me anyways, I actually enjoy running Eden with moths going through it for the first time - but the mechanics of this season so far are managing to not instill the sense of a helpless situation you have to prevail through as much as you can, but actually just making the player themselves feel helpless to the mechanics of the game which isn’t the same thing at all. not even going to bring up my whole rant about accessibility i had a few days ago bc it just makes me depressed hahaha

[native kiln]

honestly everything else is really good! i love the cosmetics and the color of the affected realms. once they fix the gameplay and add more lore ( hopefully ), i think the season would be my favorite!

[hybrid wedge]

We did ask for other ways to get ascended candles though.

[oak remnant]

I'd give you mine! The animation when the shards are falling is beautiful, I also like the environmental changes it brings (the red fog). oh wait is it considered as gameplay?

[hybrid wedge]

(Community has been asking that for years, in fact )

[visual temple]

Losing stars to a specific, time only event is one thing. But those awful mechanics also apply everywhere, including GW where I used to be able to burn the big plant.
Now I don’t stand a chance

[spark lance]

interesting i have never heard anyone asking for this

[native kiln]

and i feel like its harder to help other people when youre helpless with the shards :*). Eden is amazing with bringing people together as you mentioned. In eden, the difficulty lessens with experience, in shards, its a coin toss ;-;

[oak remnant]

Oops sorry I was one of them

[hybrid wedge]

I can promise you it’s an oooolllllllllddddd request

[native kiln]

i think its pretty nice. like i usually have 0 ac and dont wanna lose all my lights in eden to get some more.

[spark lance]

rip😔

[heavy mountain]

i agree, im really looking forward to the cosmetics!

[oak remnant]

Bbbbut- I mean you know who doesn't like getting ac without losing all of their wls and need to wlr 😭

[spark lance]

oh interesting, i personally rlly enjoy current eden and how we get ac but ig its understandable 🤔

[heavy mountain]

yeah i think that stuff looks cool too! i think most of the positive feedback ends up being on the visuals and cosmetics haha

[visual temple]

This. Eden used to be a place where experienced players could guide moths and make new friends.
These mechanics make it so that it’s “every man for themselves”. It’s quite impossible to help each other without suffering the same fate.

[native kiln]

also from the videos i see, when soemone tries to help someone else, they usually get bonked, and now both are helpless 😅

[spark lance]

oh true true that makes sense i hit 11 stars awhile ago and i still enjoy wlrs but everyone has their own opinions

[hybrid wedge]

Yeah, honestly I like playing Eden, but getting all my stars back for 11 wedges is kind of demotivating

[oak remnant]

Exactly. Although I like the crawling mechanism in eden, for me it brings more emotional effect. But I like it there because we are supposed to die there, unlike in other realms where you can survive still

[native kiln]

yeah! especially when its for a travelling spirit and you need like 2ac and have to lose the 11wedges

[hybrid wedge]

Really? That’s different from my experience—I went through Eden in beta this week and I was still able to recharge people just fine. Till the constant rock rain of course but that’s the same as live, honestly. Minus having to crawl a lot more

[heavy mountain]

i completely agree, i think in eden its cool but in regular game play its just going to make me really frustrated

[remote flame]

i think the shard events themselves are interesting and challenging but i don't like how they are sometimes going to be in the way and that they happen every day, the cosmetics are really cool, i genuinely love them but the prices right now are weird, the "spirit" trees could use some work but it's an improvement from when it was just 2 at least. they made eden easier (in my opinion) to do to make up for the extra wind and the crawling mechanic (not sure it really does tho) i like how they expanded the area with the torches and gave the rock rain another angle to fall from near the end. if we could still relight by honking and didn't crawl when we lose light it would be decently cool. i do wish they were less vague with the lore, maybe with cutscenes that explained the different memories we see after we get a shard done? also i wish it was easier to recharge in that new area, you can barely look at the cool things since you can only fly so much

[restive needle]

The visuals of this season when they’re not triggering migraines are really really cool. I really like the cosmetics. Having another way to farm AC without being constrained to once a week is a good call. I think that the replacement of the statues to make them more Skykid-shaped and with more variation in poses is also a good call despite the depressing air; I think Eden warrants it. But I don’t think that the highlights are enough to make this an enjoyable season. I think that I speak for a lot of people saying that they’d rather trade in those highlights and not have them in this season if it meant the mechanics of the seasonal events/quests were reworked to be more enjoyable.

[hybrid wedge]

Ha! Yeah, I’ll take some super angry crabs and maybe a few stars lost over having to go run all the levels for a wlr, haha

[visual temple]

I hate not being able to emote in Eden, and dying on all fours. I want me and my friends to be able to choose how to express our feelings of the moment, up to the point of dying, and doing so with gusto.

[native kiln]

we cant emote in eden?!?!? why!!

[spark lance]

this makes sense tho, u have been able to experience many seasons in sky, but new players have a right to not like this upcoming season, like i want to buy AP and get emotes and spirits bc i find that fun, this new season is pretty disappointing imo

[remote flame]

i was so devastated when i found that out, it's a thing in live already

[visual temple]

Yes well, there is mucho crawling and once that happens, it’s too late for deep call, whereas before we could still walk and be revived.

[oak remnant]

Fr it broke my heart knowing I can't spam dance in eden when I've died any my friends not 💀

[native kiln]

oh my! i only remember not being able to do emotes when we are in the floating orb state as we are waiting for anoter player to finish lighting the statues and we were both sad about it. i wonder if its in anywhere else

[remote flame]

also i am working on my beta feedback, i think ill add that i want that back to my list

[restive needle]

wait a second we can’t emote in Eden anymore???? oh my god that’s so upsetting

[heavy mountain]

i am curious if the torch cosmetic helps restore light once crawling? or if they removed the use of that

[hybrid wedge]

Not when your light is completely out

[native kiln]

wait, do we also crawl when we run out of light from dark water?

also speaking of torch cosmetic, petition to make it light automatically once places

[hybrid wedge]

Don’t you have to be able to light it with your candle though?

[restive needle]

You mean when you’ve gone all grey, or when you turn into the blue spark?

[hybrid wedge]

(I have a torch but have only used it once)

@restive needle when you’re completely extinguished IIRC

[heavy mountain]

yes! but if you already had it lit would you be able to is my question i guess

[oak remnant]

And your opinion is completely valid. What I'm trying to say is, being able to like and dislike some features in season is completely something that can co-exist. Just because I like some features, doesn't mean I would say the season as 'excellent'

[spark lance]

oh ofc ofc i agree and ur opinion is also valid

[native kiln]

this chat is one of the only game chats ive seen where conflicting opinions can coexist nicely

[hybrid wedge]

Nah, we got others like#cozy-sky-discussion too ^^

[mental ridge]

Actually, I think both? I don’t have much company in this testing circle, so I always went to test Eden solo, but when you’re a spark, you technically don’t have light anymore, so you probably won’t be able to use emotes then either? Correct me if I’m wrong, beta folk, btw!

[native kiln]

yeah! i meant game chats as in discord for games in general, not just for this server 😅

[restive needle]

I’m curious if I’m right on this so: Vote with in the reactions if you’d rather NOT have the things you like in this season so far (cosmetics, ac, visuals) if the mechanics were changed or even scrapped into a new more enjoyable gameplay experience, or if you’d take the experience we have so far if it meant you could experience the highlights you enjoy.

[visual temple]

It won’t stay anymore. Either the rocks will disappear it, or crabs, or krills will eat it, or powers that be…

[hybrid wedge]

Ah, sorry!

[heavy mountain]

alright, thank you! :(

[restive needle]

not a lot of folks are active rn so a poll doesn’t really matter much lol, but I think that it’s still important. I wish TGC would have like surveys or something.

[native kiln]

sky is hella beautiful already and i can wait for future seasons with better visuals and cosmetics. if the experience is changed, itd be something that carries over to even other seasons and make what we already have even more enjoyable

[visual temple]

I voted yes and I love the cosmetics. That says a lot.

[hybrid wedge]

TGC regularly has surveys pop in the live version—sounds like it’s a small percentage of players though, we don’t all see it

[native kiln]

same . im especially looking forward to the new pant and the spirit of light hair

[spark lance]

i dont like most of the cosmetics..

[hybrid wedge]

I want that light dress outfit so badly y’all

[oak remnant]

I'm just here appreciating the butterfly on my bald skykid

[heavy mountain]

im really excited for the cosmetics honestly and i would be 💔 if they got cut but i dont want the quality of life in the game to be downed for it

[native kiln]

im a resident bald grandpa, the butterfly will be a splendid touch

[spark lance]

the only pant outfit is AP tho...

[visual temple]

You’re right, we don’t all see those, and they’re not always asking the right questions… same as the weekly poll sometimes

[native kiln]

aw thats fine, i find that even though i dont like some cosmetics at the start of seaons, they almost always grow on me

[cosmic orchid]

the dark hair is 🤌
will definitely get it

[remote flame]

the butterfly and the crab are amazing cosmetics, i also really like the dark plant cape, pin and mask. the jellyfish cape is also amazing in a different way 😂

[spark lance]

hopefully

[restive needle]

Yeah, I’ve never gotten one. If they had beta surveys I think that would be helpful, or at least show more that they are listening to player opinions. I’ve sent a few big feedback essays at this point and even though it’s noted multiple times that each feedback is read by somebody, it doesn’t really feel like it at all and honestly makes me feel discouraged to write more feedback.

[cosmic orchid]

still wonder what the krill horn is supposed to do

[heavy mountain]

the cosmetics this season are just the perfect mix of pretty and dark for me.

[native kiln]

im 99.99 percent sure that they have a plan for the krill horn. its too useful looking to be...unuseful :*)

[heavy mountain]

ive definitely gotten a few but they take a minute to fill out and trying to do it sideways on my phone gets cramped. + what you said about feeling like its not read… i feel like id just be repeating myself every time.

[visual temple]

Same. I’ve gotten to a point where I weigh the time it takes me to write those essays (in my second language) vs rl obligations and stress, and sometimes I come to the conclusion that I just don’t have the spoons to ask for more accessibility for the 100th time…

[remote flame]

spoons?

[visual temple]

It’s a saying to say that you don’t have the energy. Let’s say your health state gives you 5 spoons a day of energy to spend, writing feedback might take you 2 out of those precious “spoons”

[remote flame]

oooh i had never heard that before, thankyou!

[native kiln]

oh thats interesting, i've never heard of it before but im gonna start using it

[restive needle]

Like, if the amount of feedback that’s already been going on hasn’t lead to any more substantial gameplay changes (I know there’s been some, as well as bug fixes which are always helpful, so I’m not saying there’s been no improvement or that I’m not thankful for it) then it’s like I just assume… “well alright, they’ve either not been listening well enough, have decided to double down on the mechanics despite widespread negative feedback, or have just totally disregarded player feedback entirely.”

[visual temple]

My pleasure, I learned it myself from my American friends ☺️

[heavy mountain]

its a term mostly used for neurodivergent / disabled people i believe because we only get so many before were tired out

[native kiln]

it has been a while since there was an update so theres always hope that theyre addressing the feedback. and from what i know, game development can be a difficult progress, and it might not be that they dont want to address the feedback, but that itd take a lot of resources and could potentially break other parts of the game. we can only hope tho

[restive needle]

The “spoons” allegory is used most often in chronic illness circles, especially with how it relates to chronic fatigue that can come with being in pain constantly, but it also applies very well to mental health, so it’s pretty versatile!

[visual temple]

I am one of those and only learned that term recently, being French speaking 🙂

[restive needle]

Yeah, at the same time I know how much of a struggle game dev work is and I know that the devs don’t always have total control over the things they’re working on. I’d hope that TGC isn’t as restrictive, and hopefully that they are working on more QOL changes for the next update.

[native kiln]

nice! meeting someone who speaks another language boosts my respect for them cause im trying to learn other languages and its quite the process ( also i know this isnt about beta )

[visual temple]

It’s a very useful imagery; it helps to better manage one’s resources

[heavy mountain]

might be getting rid of my dark creature fan role if the crabs attack me like ive seen them do in beta videos im only half joking

[remote flame]

i think it's great that people were willing to answer my question despite that it's off topic, thanks guys, i learned some new things from this

[visual temple]

It’s fascinating, isn’t it? I like the theory according to which learning languages rewires your brain. Have fun in your studies!

[native kiln]

yeah!! my spanish teacher said that learning another language can teach you more about your native language - something i have definitely found to be true

[visual temple]

How cool would it be if skids had their own language?

[remote flame]

i think they do and it's honking

[native kiln]

i think honks would fill that category

[carmine thorn]

We do, though. Honk, honk honk hoooonk

[visual temple]

H H H H H HHHHOOOONNKKKK HONK HONK HONK

(Shard event)

[gilded parrot]

HONK

[remote flame]

the different calls are just accents then

[native kiln]

[oak remnant]

I will count emotes as a form of language too

[native kiln]

omg i never thought about it that way 😂 . behold my brihonk accent, aggressive crab honking

[visual temple]

. Honk
Honk. Honk
Honk

(Nearly extinguished Skid frantically running in circles)

[heavy mountain]

[remote flame]

i kinda feel like the lack of spirits this season cheated us out of a krill call

[visual temple]

I want krill call badly

[native kiln]

petition for krill horn to give us krill honk for 30 seconds

[restive needle]

As a disabled sky player, requesting more accessibility over and over and bringing up the issues that I have, knowing that lots of other people have been asking for the same things much longer than I’ve been playing Sky, it’s a big spoon draining thing due to how disheartening it feels. The way I understand it is that there are some hard coding things that simply can’t be switched out, but I feel like there’s gotta at least be something. So far the visuals of this season, while super gorgeous like explosions and color changing, are also very unfriendly to my eyes which are photosensitive due to chronic illness and induce migraines. Especially the flashing reds of the shards. I already struggle with live Sky and was advocating for changes before this season was ever in Beta. But just seeing how truly bad it is going to get makes me feel like it was all worthless and that TGC doesn’t really care about players with similar issues and disabilities like mine, not to get too down.

[heavy mountain]

they should absolutely have an alternate visuals mode for less eyestrain

[hollow estuary]

its really crazy how a game like this still doesnt have any accessibility settings
or like, almost any settings in general lol

[restive needle]

I’ve already sent feedback in #beta-feedback that’s pretty much that entire post and then some so I’ve already done that

[sullen relic]

Krill calls are pretty terrifying when you see it coming from anything other than a krill though. I accidentally set one off right before finishing Pleading Parent one time, and then when I finished the spirit, the statue let out a krill call because that was the last creature sound emitted by the game

[native kiln]

i feel like it shards werent the main "purpose" of the season, iit would be something that should be toggled on or off. like if the quests were story based, then players would be able to choose when to see the shards falling down, and they wouldnt be caught offguards

[native kiln]

also krill calls would be pretty scary . Imagine chilling in daulight praire and suddenly - KRILL NOISE -> ( i cant think of letters to appropriately describe how krills sound 😅 )

[heavy mountain]

seriously. i understand major gameplay changes might take a bit more effort, but i feel like stuff like the graphics should be minimal to edit

[sullen relic]

That could create a design issue: two players go to a shard area, where one of them had shards disabled. You’d effectively have an invincible candle guard who can’t be attacked by crabs and crystals they don’t see supporting the other player doing the shard

[visual temple]

Precisely. I’ve been asking to tone down the pitch-black darkness; I’ve been playing Sky for over a year and my eyesight is getting worse, not to mention the splitting migraines.
If some of my feedback sounds sometimes a bit agressive, it’s because I can’t suffer myself anymore and I’m so frustrated that they can’t just fix the lighting. That seems like such a basic thing to do!
Instead, we get… FOG

[native kiln]

yeah that does make sense. but if they made it like assembly - without the sitting down together part before its activated, so its not like you both will be in the quest at the same time, but you can join them. idk if that makes sense, it would be very confusing to think about ;-;

[restive needle]

When I’m on mobile Sky I play with the brightness turned down and Night Shift enabled which is basically how I use my phone anyways 24/7, and watching videos of beta so far even with those accommodations are still really really easy to trigger pain and discomfort. The bloom is a huge issue for me already and that we can’t lessen it at all is agonizing lol

[hollow estuary]

bloom is literally a post processing setting and should be pretty easy to let players change it to their liking in any modern game engine, but i guess if tgc is using their own engine it might have limitations...

[heavy mountain]

they should really add a reduced contrast + flash / brightness sensitivity. i cant imagine it would be all that difficult. i know phones have filter settings and i would assume games would be able to have the same

[visual temple]

Yes, it’s all about extremes

[remote flame]

i think the best fix would be to make the shards less flashy, right now they glow a lot and it looks cool but it might help if it was diminished a bit or there was a setting to lower effects like that

[sullen relic]

…tangent thought though: why do shards of “darkness” glow so much?

[remote flame]

to compete with winged light

[hollow estuary]

ha, true, maybe they should be replaced with just deep darkness that absorbs all light
vantablack shards

[visual temple]

Why does darkness have to be pitch black? That memory area is so painful to navigate…

[restive needle]

Yeah that’s what I think it must be, and if that’s the case I still feel like there’s gotta be something even minor that can be done. It’s frustrating and upsetting when the only real option it feels like I’ve got is to just not play the game and ppl saying things like “your health comes first, you shouldn’t put yourself through pain to play the game”…. like yeah, I know that! But it sucks that I have to make that choice at all, yknow?

[south citrus]

Hello nobody is answering in looking for group channel, i need help for 8 player door in praire

[hybrid wedge]

Light seems like a tricky thing though. In Abyss for example they made updates to the lighting so it would look better underwater, and then suddenly the Valley coliseum OOB sunset was gone. It’s something that most changes made to lighting have some sort of impact that wasn’t intended, so I imagine actually “fixing” specific lighting issues is a bigger challenge than something like fixing a hole in the wall

[heavy mountain]

i feel like they would be able to make a general overlay filter? i know phones do it. im no expert by any means but ive seen it done before

[hollow estuary]

but reducing bloom overall shouldnt be a big issue? it just makes everything less shiny. its a post processing effect so it literally doesnt affect anything else

[queen wedge]

Just literally being able to turn off the bloom would be life changing 😔

[visual temple]

They did make some areas lighter, but Eden proper became the deepest black and the statues are near impossible to see. It doesn’t make a lot of sense.

[hybrid wedge]

The engine Sky uses is proprietary, so I don’t know if the process would be the same as for other engines

[visual temple]

You know something’s off when your skid’s hair glows…

[hybrid wedge]

It seems like the darkness thing varies between devices too. For example, when I played on an iPad mini (2!), I had more issues with dark places than once I started playing on an iPad 6

[heavy mountain]

hmm. yeah, not sure. not familiar with specific engines to be honest

[hollow estuary]

yeah, i did mention before that i know theyre using their own engine. its kind of an issue then if their engine is too outdated to make a simple change like adjusting bloom too hard

[visual temple]

I think the iPad mini is darker.
My old iPad Pro 2016 is easier on the eyes than any of my newer iOS devices!

[queen wedge]

I guess so, my previous phone's lowest brightness setting was much darker than my current one

[hollow estuary]

anything semi modern should have the ability to just plop on post processing, i mostly have experience with unity though, but unreal engine can produce really good looking environments so i would assume it's the same there, or it's even better for that

[heavy mountain]

speaking of darkness in different devices, has anyone noticed that their screen randomly darkens significantly while playing? i know its not game related because its happened in other games too but its something ive noticed in the past

[hybrid wedge]

I’m not an engineer, but I know from playing Sky since 2018 that nothing is ever as simple to do as it seems it should be
(For the record the bloom hurts my eyes too, but I don’t imagine it’s fast and simple to fix)

[hollow estuary]

aura, maybe something to do with your phone's energy saving features?

[queen wedge]

Hmm I'm not sure, but I do constantly adjust it on my own depending on where I am on the map

[visual temple]

It happens not only in games, I think it has to do with adjusting to ambient light. You could check your settings.

[restive needle]

Honestly I’d just like some kind of definite reply about the issues. Like “yes, our engine does not allow us to create more customizable lighting changes, and we don’t have plans to rework that.” even that would be helpful to just know versus continuing to plea for changes despite it. It could at least let me not get my hopes up anymore and probably make a more informed decision about continuing to play this game despite its lack of accessibility.

[visual temple]

This, and we’d know to stop using spoons sending useless feedback about it too.

[queen wedge]

After writing feedback for 2 years and still nothing what else can you do😔

[heavy mountain]

i havent noticed it happening on any battery percentage, because i generally cant get it to do it on command. might be the ambient settings, but im generally sitting in the exact same spot and lighting when it happens. so i dont know thanks for the suggestions though ill look into those

[restive needle]

And this is just on mobile. Switch is another beast. Right now the Dreams area flashes rapidly in the sky the closer you are to the top of the boat entrance to the yeti house

[narrow current]

Since season of FLIGHT btw...
Something that shouldn't even be in the game anymore. Not only the dreams area but also sliding race

[hollow estuary]

of course it's exceptional for a game developer studio to even ask for feedback openly and have specific channels for it which they read, most studios just ship a game and don't listen to feedback from anyone besides their internal playtesters at all doesnt mean we're not allowed to wish for better communication and for many of our suggestions to be actually implemented in the game though...

[alpine field]

The first thing i had turned off on all my devices is adjusting to ambient lighting, coz i usually like my screen much darker than the auto adjust decides for me, and that still happens everytime i go to eden too, so idk, why make eden even darker? The change is also abrupt, not gradual.

[dire escarp]

Some phones do have a blue light filter, but you could actually apply a physical filter to your screen with thin colored plastic films. They would need to be thin enough to allow touch through.

My assumption on the reason why the shards glow, is that the "darkstone" is infused with too much light energy from creatures in a giant artificial star factory. I wouldn't be surprised if the eye of Eden isn't actually a giant broken factory.

[restive needle]

Yeah there’s a lot of things TGC does really well in that area. But they also have a lot more they could be doing.

Ironically, I’ve been playing Sky on my Switch off and on and pausing to write posts and have to turn it off entirely because it’s caused a migraine to start lol. Had to mention the Dreams area thing because I literally just experienced it

[heavy mountain]

i thought i remembered it generally being gradual in my experience, but i also dont think its happened in a while. the setting also looks different now and mentions colors more than light so maybe it was changed.

[hollow estuary]

i left a bug report on the flashing dreams area and even put a video with it and that was like a few months back....

[visual temple]

There’s something that’s been bugging me.

So much attention and resources have been devoted to small details like tHe cOloUr Of tHe hAiRbAnD, and meanwhile real issues and bugs make it live. The new constellation is utterly bugged. Eden had already become a pain long before this season. We lost beloved glitches while the focus was on that stupid hair…

[queen wedge]

Thing is, blue light filters can only do so much

[narrow current]

I play mainly on switch since it released on there and the flashing in the realm of valley is insane. Like it has been reported and has been in the game since season of flight so october 2021 and still to this day no fix...

[hollow estuary]

also when you leave your character afk for a bit on the switch in some areas like home for example, the entire environment starts flashing

[heavy mountain]

exactly this. they seem to spend so much time on minute cosmetic changes while parts of the game are painful or inaccessible to some people. i dont understand why that wouldnt have a higher priority

[narrow current]

Yep i experienced this a few times and i actually think it broke the screen of a switch lite i had but i can't really prove that so i can't say that is for certain

Edit: there is a lot of fishes in chat haha

[hollow estuary]

the cosmetics are a lot easier to change than a mechanism that affects the whole game, thats why

[alpine field]

Yeah, and sudden lighting bugs after hiding from krills

[dire escarp]

BTW are the shards in valley missing today? Just searched around valley when the darkness fell message, but 0 shardage
Ah maybe I'm not looking high enough, ty for the clue

[heavy mountain]

does anyone else get annoyed when youre flying / running after a spirit and it forcibly drags your camera for 5 seconds and makes you run into something

[restive needle]

Like not to be a downer but some of this stuff just feels even useless to bring up because of the precedent that’s been set. It’s upsetting to not get any kind of dev insight (not that I would demand any of them to reply of course) into ANY of these issues. The fact that this season’s content brings up these discussions about accessibility so easily, that there hasn’t been any word from TGC isn’t very encouraging.

[narrow current]

And also the constant cutscenes in prairie village and end of forest

My previous message got deleted i hope this one comes through
Oh there lol

[hollow estuary]

for a hairtie you just need to change the color of a texture and refresh it on the engine, no change in code required. for making cutscenes skippable or bloom adjustable, they need to get into the code and start breaking stuff up that will also affect a LOT of other things in the process. and modeling and coding departments are likely separate so while the coders might be busy trying to fix bugs 24/7 the modelers have all the time they want to adjust a single hairtie thats just the reality of it

[heavy mountain]

yeah. its just frustrating when some people have trouble playing because of issues that have been there for over a year

[restive needle]

Yeah. It’s important to consider those factors that limit these changes. I just wish that we had any kind of confirmation that this isn’t just being outright ignored.

[remote flame]

i just realized this but remember how the turtle event went ok on the beta servers but on live it gets messed up by server merges? would this effect the shard event too since it involves burning plants?

[hollow estuary]

of course the underlying issue is making cutscenes hardcoded in the first place but they cant really go and rebuild the whole thing now

[narrow current]

And tbh its not like it makes the game more difficult or hard. Ive adjusted to these things but quality of life fixes should be a thing in this game...

[broken fractal]

I just read from someone's ig that thatskyshop got some accident, and many ready sky merc got burned. Not sure if that's why there's no update for now tho

[restive needle]

I really hope that they’re working on the next beta patch for as long as it’s been without an update in order to take more player feedback into account, but if the next few patches happen and they just contain minor bug changes and small graphical improvements… it’s not lookin good fellas.

[restive needle]

I think if that happened there’d be an official statement, you can’t really take someone’s instagram as fact. Even then if it was the shop then that doesn’t really have anything to do with the actual game development side if it was just merch that ended up being destroyed.

All the same I hope that isn’t true, that’d be terrible regardless

[carmine thorn]

I got the email from thatskyshop's official email address. One of the facilities did burn down and 1,000 orders got damaged.

[queen wedge]

There was a statement along with a photo of the destroyed stuff

[hollow estuary]

minecraft was originally written in java but the old code started being problematic so they just took and built the whole thing again from scratch in a more modern language, sky is fairly popular but i dont know if its popular enough that it'd bring in enough money for them to be able to hire new devs for a big task like that. it would be good for the game on the long run, but i also dont know how many more seasons theyre planning to have before being done with the game and doing something else...

[restive needle]

Oh no, that sucks D: but again, I don’t really know how that would drastically impact the game development side if it was just physical merch and orders that was destroyed

[queen wedge]

True, they are separate

[spark lance]

just asking, is this the first season where there is no beta invites?

[coral cosmos]

no; beta invites are not tied to the start of a season. they only send out invites when testers are needed

[chilly wigeon]

I've been trying to do the trail of fire on beta but it glitches when I try and won't fill up my light when I go on the candl

[ember fox]

Hey guys, can u pls tell me where the shards for today are?literally can’t find them at all

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[coral cosmos]

it's at hermit valley today!

[ember fox]

Thank you! But I was sitting there for like 10min already tho 😅😅

[carmine thorn]

The shards don't drop until around xx:08,xx:38 or later. You have a few minutes before it falls down and is ready to burn.

[ember fox]

Thank you soo much!kinda totally forgot about the drop time 😅

[spark lance]

this season is like a whole monkey's paw situation, we all wished for an eden season (i didn't but eh a majority did), and we got it... but it ended up being the worst season we have ever experienced.

[cosmic orchid]

careful what you wish for

[grizzled vapor]

Holy moly a season dedicated to Eden of end times..

🥲 ooh the fear and pain

[lament mica]

I think we wished for a season in Eden and not a season that would bring Eden to every corner of Sky. At least I did

[slow minnow]

i wonder how the ts's for this season will work
like, since theyre not exacly spirits, how r they gonna look if they come as a ts?

[carmine thorn]

Players: We would like a season inside Eden
TGC: bring Eden to all the realms, got you fam.

[narrow current]

"We got eden at home... Literally"

[sterile cobalt]

tgc: this weeks travelling spirit!! can anyone guess what it is?
the spirit: °* ੈ‧₊˚

[young jetty]

henlo everyone, I have a question, I'm a little bit conffuse about the shards event times, is it every half hour? or it lasts for the while hour?

[spark lance]

ah what i meant that is this their first time not sending a beta invite during a season in here (not based in seasons)

[coral cosmos]

i'm sorry, i don't understand what you mean by that. they don't send beta invites during every season, there's been several seasons without invites. or are you talking about like. real world seasons like spring or summer??

[twin lintel]

where shard

[twin lintel]

where even would a season be if it was actually in eden?

[twin lintel]

i think every season has a moral lesson… this season’s is “be careful what you wish for”

[half nest]

there was technically a huawei invite wave 3 days after performance began, although i'm pretty sure no one from that wave was actually accepted in (tgc said later that they needed to reduce the amount of huawei testers they had because it took too long to process updates or smth idr)
edit; sorry, didnt mean to ping ^^

[spark lance]

ohhh alright! also it's fine for the ping ! dw (thank you btw)

[tender palm]

i might miss the season entirely on live

[half nest]

same

[vocal wadi]

its fixed for android users already xou might not miss

[tender palm]

Actually I have to go to a camp for 6 weeks and I’m not allowed to bring any electronics

[shrewd needle]

I agree with you 💯%. I never, EVER imagined having a season based on Eden. This has ruined Sky for me and also had it lose meaning. It was a happy utopia before, but now nowhere is free from being corrupted.

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[vocal wadi]

I do wish the spirits had forms instead of just light and we would like the story part of the Sky Seasons .. for example the story of Performance him meeting the rythm owl .. hopefully more stufff ...also the shattering season could be taken as what happend to eden king and people he met

[golden sparrow]

Does anyone know where the crystal is in vqlley today? I can’t seem to find it

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[young jetty]

the're falling in hermit's valley

[vagrant pebble]

was just vibing with someone at home and sky server split us- (i have good internet)
the orange wifi symbol has been happening way too much

[broken fractal]

At this point I'm convinced that the wifi icon is actually 'split time alert!'

[woeful obsidian]

Has the memory with krill a wing?

[woeful obsidian]

Yeah I was suddenly alone with all the crabs

[kindred fossil]

Not any that we know of, no

[woeful obsidian]

Thanks 😞

[buoyant berry]

Shards only in ark today?

[spark lance]

yes

im so discouraged abt this new season idk if im going to be as active

[spark lance]

i wouldve just preferred a season located in eden(not all throughout the realms)

[woeful obsidian]

But now we know, why there is eden.. And why he erupted..

[kindred fossil]

I have absolutely no idea why Eden is erupting now

Is it a cry for help? Is the Prince/King begging for the cycle to end? Or are we suffering their wrath?

[hasty vessel]

Y’all we got an uncooked season, let’s keep faith that the second half of this season exceeds our expectations of an “eden season”

There’s still a small chance that it will flow us out of the water

[kind prawn]

Maybe someone just needed to replace the batteries for Eden, and nothing much else.

[lilac solstice]

Though, I worry they'll try to push this season out on a normal time, 2 weeks after the last season. That would give us not much time to test the second half
I really hope it's delayed longer

[hasty vessel]

Same I’d much rather prefer a delay so they can change and fine tune this season than have it released on schedule. Everyone’s thoughts of shattering seems to be pretty unanimous so I can’t imagine them ignoring this for everyone in live to react the same way

[kindred fossil]

I’m not expecting much for the second half, if indeed something mind blowing does happen, everyone is allowed to point their fingers at me & laugh 😜

[hasty vessel]

Things have been suspiciously quiet recently though… I can feel it, something big is coming.

Trying to stay optimistic but low key crying inside

[pale junco]

King said storytime

[mortal parcel]

When does the Red Stone land at dawn?

[misty bone]

there is no red shard in dawn / isle since it is a tutorial map

[quick harbor]

I'm worried for the future of "Days of" events

We might get more like 2 new events max, or else everything will start being too close and will overwork the players. And with tgc adding new cosmetics to every rerun.

[kindred fossil]

TikTok storytime that is separated into 23 parts & it absolutely explains nothing all while dragging it on as long as it can

“Like & follow for a part 2” - King

[woeful obsidian]

There is no "King" the elders did this. Forest mum created too large diamond for energy.. This energy was to big for hold.. So the fabric exploded... The elders gringe for more energy.. Thatswhy they got corrupted. They fighting to shut down the energy, of the diamond.
And thatswhy eden exist. It's the fabric... And we fighting still in the now.. What the past has produced, we have to pay for it. And have to go eden for free the statues kids to come to live. For fight g against the darkness.

That's my theory.

[valid terrace]

retired beta tester here

how are things going? I hope they’re ok

[mortal parcel]

Why don‘t I have red stones in the map with red stones, but only the red sky? Please answer! Thank you very much!

[pale junco]

Shards only fall in one realm per day the red sky shows up in all maps because eden is visible from all maps.
The realm that has shards will have red stones on it's portal at home.

Today it's wasteland and the shard is falling in forgotten ark

[sinful surge]

Haha thanks. I just now checked this page for the location 😂

[vagrant fable]

Remember when you thought the Music shop release in live would be bad? This season is worse

@placid iron maybe because they think the mask is boring?
Sorry for ping

[placid iron]

oh

[worn talon]

Hello when are gonna be new invites for the Beta?

[vagrant fable]

We don't know, they are not scheduled
But it's when devs need more testers

[placid iron]

they happen at a random times

[vagrant fable]

You can get a ping role for when they are released, tho, just go read #beta-faq

[worn talon]

I see thanks

[mortal parcel]

thank very much

[digital pasture]

Moving a comment from #beta-screenshots-videos to this channel. It's regarding the table windwall thing

What confuses me so much about this is like... the inconsistency of their support when it comes to out of bounds stuff. In season of performance they put a whole penguin out of bounds as a fun easter egg and now they're suddenly limiting exploration?

like, obviously in your game your top goal is to have it be solid. You want casual players to not fall into the deep when standing on a specific polygon in the corner of a room. And even with hardcore gamers with speedrunning intent or something like that,, you want your playerbase to spend most of their time INSIDE the game and not OUTSIDE of the game..... but then WHY add the penguin?? Why go through the trouble to fix the lighting of a popular OOB spot in valley??? I know the valley spot is accessible without table too but I'm not sure about penguin. Idk... it's just such a weird inconsistency to me?

[minor falcon]

pengu is accessible in bounds, there's the invisible winwall maze

[digital pasture]

Oh good!

[west seal]

Hello is any one there

Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaªaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah&hhhhhh

[snow escarp]

Does the crawl mechanic apply to All areas or just eden?

[elder inlet]

all,we crawl when our light is extinguished

[mental ridge]

About the 🐧 - what Voi said. It’s very hard to get there with no table, but it’s possible. And well, there is a number of OOBs that are acknowledged/“accepted” by TGC, and I guess the Valley stadium is one of them. There is a pin that allows you to visit that OOB, if I recall correctly, so that might have been a big factor for them fixing the lighting that time.

[raw wasp]

They tried giving us lore. It did not help. New mechanics related to damage are a pain in the butt cosmetics are… well thats your opinion to decide!

[woeful obsidian]

Yes.. Idk what their are thinking. First.. They promote to Explorer oob.. Then shut off the glitch to go there.. Then add Easter eggs in oob.. 🤷 I liked the valley, Musicshop oob earlier with the village. Nice place.. But now all gone.

[mighty harness]

So I’ve been to the ark. Can’t find the shard. Where is it today?

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well

[elder inlet]

right at the broken ship from screenshots ive seen

[woeful obsidian]

You ha e to wait for falling. Be there on the right time.

[mighty harness]

I was there at 9:58 and stayed until 10:16! Nothing came

[woeful obsidian]

Watch the Screenshot channel for location

[spark lance]

There were many amazing items hidden inside OOB. Like the hidden isle gate, it has a button that you can even activate, plus a cutscene when you open it.
Idk why they left those interesting things inside wind barrier but.. last time they added the penguin, i remembered a dev saying sth like: i don't expect you guys will just throw table over there.
They did create the windwall maze, soloers can go through it alone and no spells is needed, but sometimes we want to travel somewhere that has no windwall maze, like those beautiful gold angels in starlight dessert.
If you noticed, the chat props are now problematic too, people sit on the prop will appear in other spots instead of the table.
I hope they don't change the mechanic of the props, let us have fun instead of just grind candles

[gilded parrot]

Fineeee, gather around the bonfire, I'm going to play a lullaby for you!

[mental ridge]

I really miss the days when OOBing was easier (oh, my moth days, where did you go)… They’ve been removing OOB tricks somewhat regularly lately, be it intentional or not, and it’s always sad to see them go. I already left feedback on that; I truly hope areas hidden in/behind wind walls will not become inaccesible for good.

[woeful obsidian]

+++One last change please!! +++

If we just get 2 or 3 ac candles from shards, because the players poofed because of server merge and alone can't get all stars to get the full reward.

Please let us can get the rest of ac candle with next try. So that we can do more then once to get full reward of 4 ac candles this day. Like in eden. If we don't get all statues. We can go another time the week to get all.
You know what i mean

[calm wedge]

Any thoughts on the Shard burning at the Sunny Forest? I do not know if it is bug or deliberately, but it is Brutal!

[noble radish]

Hello, where are the shards today??

[trim spade]

Wait does the table drive still work that breaks through wind walls?

[minor falcon]

no, you get yeeted off - table anchoring doesn't work anymore

[hybrid wedge]

There’s a lot of assumptions that TGC is purposely trying to patch every one of these glitches and make OOB inaccessible, but it’s worth remembering—glitches were never intended to be in the game. They’re weird unintended side effects of code, and staff have said before that they can’t keep a glitch (bug) at the expense of something that needs to go into the game, or if it’s something that can too easily cause confusion for people who weren’t trying to glitch in the first place. If they were trying to get rid of all the glitches, chibi fall would be ancient history by now And with every patch, there’s always the chance for some other OOB or glitch to pop up and become another fun toy ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[mental ridge]

While that is something that has been said by TGC many times, it’s common knowledge, and I do understand that PoV, I do also think that with as limited gameplay as Sky’s, I personally wouldn’t be as dismissive about those tricks. And of course people will be upset if their main way of having fun in Sky simply disappears. But again, that’s just my PoV.

[visual temple]

I understand what you’re saying Nagati, but one of the particularities that made TGC so precious to their fans, players, customers, was how they’ve always let us play with those glitches.
There’s an oob tradition going back to Journey here, and a good chunk of us wouldn’t even be here - wouldn’t even know about Sky - if they hadn’t been awed by Journey in the first place and thought “I want more! Who are these guys?”

For me, if you take away the glitches, if you render burning/hiding props useless, if the daily environment becomes hostile without so much as a way to defend ourselves, then That Game Company becomes just

That Other Game Company

[hollow compass]

As much as I love this game, and I've played it for so long throughout some of its developmental phase to now, perhaps it's just time to accept that Sky is going in a direction that doesn't attract me anymore. Many of my old friends have left (or ghosted me), I've met new ones and we've had lots of fun. But that thing that drew me into the world of Sky is just...not there anymore.

This isn't TGC's "fault". It's just how they have chosen to make their game. I hope mine and others' feedback has been seen and understood, but I also respect that it's not up to us to decide what happens in the game. And when that time comes, it is perhaps time to say goodbye.

[hybrid wedge]

It wasn’t my intent to be dismissive, if that’s what part of your reply was. I’ve played the game since 2018, and not to sound like Dawn’s Boat Grandpa, but I’ve seen a lot of glitches disappear in the last four years, and a lot of other ones become possible. The shifting sands of Sky are sometimes blown into a cool pattern, and then sometimes the wind comes along and scatters it away, or eventually reshapes it into something else 🧘

[fleet ruin]

What initially drew you to the game?

[visual temple]

Again, you’re not wrong. But when is a game doing a 180° like this? I invested into this game because it brought me peace during a very disturbing time. It’s increasingly frustrating and stressful. I never experienced this with any other game before.

[hollow compass]

I suppose Sky is different in that it is constantly evolving and changing, unlike for example Journey, which was a completed product at release but with lots of fun bugs that included glitching out of the map.

I vaguely remember reading about Sky somewhere, perhaps because I played Monument and/or Journey. I signed up for early beta and joined in 2018, like Nagati. What kept me staying? I think many things: the music, the atmosphere, the flying. Going on adventures with friends, discovering things and challenging ourselves with the then limited mechanics.

My personal opinion, which I've also sent in feedback, is that there is a disconnect between TGC's vision and how the players actually play the game. But TGC is very insistent that we should play it their way. I'm really not sure where it all went wrong, or indeed if it even did go wrong per se. Perhaps it's just how things happen, like any artwork you put out there to the world - it's no longer yours to solely decide how to interpret.

[mental ridge]

It’s okay ; I haven’t been around for as long, but even so, I’ve seen a few tricks get wiped away, a few beloved areas get significantly changed, and a few mechanics be altered as well. I’m aware Sky is a living organism, and it will not always evolve in a way I’d like it to. However, it is still sad to watch those pretty “patterns on the sand” get destroyed by the wind, if you will, regardless. Especially if it so happens the new ones that form in their place just aren’t as appealing to you, but then again, that’s just my personal PoV (possibly more personal than what I referred to in my previous message).

[hollow compass]

Fun fact: in the beginning, the person tagging along didn't get the wax unless they burnt it themselves.

[signal folio]

I understand a need for change and that things will always inevitably change, but its difficult.

If something upsets enough older players though, I hope there is some meaningful consideration of that feedback. Old players keep games going and are more likely to buy IAPs, so they're worth pleasing and keeping reasonably happy. Like, Wizard101 isn't what it used to be but old players made it stable enough for Wiz to get invested in again and get some more traction and now KI has funding and can give them bigger better consistent updates. Game has been going since 2008.

I dont think table drive going will be too bad, but things like chibi fall and oob objects are really important to a lot of us. When we see things like TD go we start worrying about the others.

[narrow current]

Plus i doubt anybody(newer players etc) would realistically "accidentally" table drive and get confused. For spiral sure i can see why it was removed when it comes to that. But nobody is sitting on a chat table, offering hug to their friends, activating another chat table spell and dragging the table all across the map.

Not saying thats the only reason a glitch would get patched obvs there is more when it comes to it but specifically this point i don't think that it applies

[kindred fossil]

Hate it when my moth does that, I’m just trying to have a chat 🤦

[digital pasture]

you misunderstand, this is not what I meant!
I'm saying I understand the need for any game to patch game breaking corners that could lead to casual/new players falling out of bounds and not knowing what to do (for example, the holes in sanctuary), but the patching of table drive is obviously more aimed at experienced players, so it felt really weird to me they'd include a penguin easter egg and fix the lighting of a popular oob in performance, and then suddenly patch table drive in shattering.... aaaaa It's hard to put my feelings into words,, but curtain call blep worded it really well in the second message above!
Edit: oh alright! sorry!

[narrow current]

Oh i was responding to a point from this message by nagati. @/joshua i agree with you
E: all good haha

[visual temple]

I told them exactly the same thing in feedback! It feels like they are forcing their way of playing on us, to the point where it’s not playing anymore.

[visual temple]

I will never get over the loss of spiral/spasm, and the imposition of solid ceilings. The amount of time it cut on cr and gave back for real life saved my sanity.

[valid terrace]

have felt this way since Assembly personally
random but still

like. I'm still not completely over the damn questgiver and just want them back in some way
it is a personal issue, but a big event going on during the time I want to take off due to distress about said time period as well as simply wanting a break? idk anymore

gonna be doing only dailies for a while out of wanting to be less active until I want to be but I hope that day ever comes, despite this going on

I love this game. I love its world and characters, but the way I fear not being able to continue out of feeling alienated and about it hypothetically losing what drew me to it in the first place?

basically only playing due to sunk cost fallacy + not wanting to leave friends behind + the lore and spirits + my fan creations + waiting for Alchemist to show up + most of all the magic of it.

if it loses its magic I'll need to, like the questgiver, depart with no sign of if I wish to return or not
and I don't want that to happen

[spark lance]

If they create windwall maze to each of hidden things that explorers knew, then we might not be too sad about table drive/spiral removal.
I've played Sky for 2 yrs now, collected all items & expressions in constellation. So the only thing i do with my friends when we go online are exploring. It's real fun trying to locate any hidden things in the game. We could spend hours, not gaining any wax, but the result: getting closer to each other, refreshed, feeling accomplished, all this cuz we got to find & see sth interesting in Sky that we didn't knew exist. Eventho the glitches were not intended, but bcz it was there & some Skytubers made videos abt it, some players consider glitches as features. Maybe TGC do not like these bugs became known, maybe they see it as flaw in their game.
But maybe they can consider the many players who are interested in exploring & hopefully they could provide this as a gameplay in the future

[dreamy grail]

Vol, we know how you feel ab the quest giver, please don't push yourself to a breaking point like usual okay

[valid terrace]

don't worry Cosmos I'm making sure to keep it light
only brought this up because of being a thing that happened that is affecting my experience (not as badly as before) but importantly to this topic making me want to take a break during certain periods that I don't know if will be possible due to the above issues

[wary star]

i put a suggestion in, tell me if it's good or not!

"ok, so i've heard that an oobing glitch was removed, and i have an idea to bring it back

a windwall and loading zone shield! acts as a back item, if you tap the shield button in the menu, it puts up a forcefield around you. you won't be affected by windwalls and loading zones while it's on. tap it again in the menu to turn it off!

i really hope you guys consider this. maybe then you can remove oob glitches and not worry?"

[valid terrace]

it's like we're not allowed a break. I don't want to come on and see the empty gateways as that is guaranteed to break my heart to some degree, and I do not want that to be potentially very high as my reactions aren't fun for anyone caught in them

ranges from disappointment to endless looping questions and I don't wanna be on that end of the scale ever again

I'm sure a lot of people want breaks during then for many reasons but with the number of events, in my case I'll have to suck it up from wanting something from it and potentially get upset

[spark lance]

Does we gonna receive any update?

[valid terrace]

with the number of events? if you want something during the time you want a/have to have a break? cry about it

[visual temple]

This, precisely. The fondest memories I have with friends in Sky are those of accidental glitches, some of them so bad that we couldn’t even tp Home and had to close the app in the end. But the laughs!!!! They were so hilarious, we were so caught by surprise, that I still remember the pain in my cheekbones and the wheezing for laughing so hard.
These precious glitches strengthened our bond.

I’ll say this: moths are being pampered if glitches are taken out for their sake. They’re not babies, they’re players. And if they’re SO helpless, then why the damage mechanics from the darkest pit of Hell??

[valid terrace]

I get upset enough at infantilisation of new players; we don't need it embraced as a "oh that's what we should do"

not saying the devs are doing that but this one insta post worries me a lot
I hate hate hate the moth-veteran binary but they did a "according to [Mentor's arrival] which are you"
I'm neither thank you please do not embrace a hierarchy that I'd rather have demolished

[wary star]

(also, maybe we could finally visit fake prairie, or those islands at home)

[wary star]

being a veteran means you've played for a long time, that's it

people just make it out to be weird

[valid terrace]

whoever pitches these ideas: "what if a new player breaks something by mistake? we can't have that!"

also whoever pitches these ideas: "wait was I supposed to think about new people with the damage mechanics? oh well"

I'm not saying the devs are malicious and this isn't all of the team that do this but I am very worried about the near future so will prob shelter from the wider community for a bit

[wary star]

this is why id rather have a non-glitch oob method, so that they could fix things w/out ruining oobs

[valid terrace]

my favourite OOB is the room with all the Elders; I think I would uninstall on the spot were rocket to be gone

have had some lovely memories messing with it including in there

[dreamy grail]

I feel like stuff such as the popular oobs - elder rooms, Starlight Colleseum ect will definitely remain, hopefully the fun oobs don't really get patched and they use them as mini Easter eggs more and stuff, yk?

[wary star]

one of my favorites is fake eden, in the same room actually!

[spark lance]

When i was a moth i took new games features for granted as if they already there from the start
I thought we could hug all the guides and all of then had their own area and the forest always rained as the time passed i realized it wasn't there from the start
So even for some players the new features seems invasive and weird to new players it's gonna be "normal gameplay" and i bet we gonna see more unsatisfied old players than new ones

[valid terrace]

like. I have had the feeling since Assembly of the "forcing us to play how they want and nothing else"

it's not a fun feeling and it does fluctuate in intensity but this is making it go off

[wary star]

i agree

i've been playing since lightseekers, and to be honest, the game's really boring now

the gameplay consists of doing dailies and logging off

[raw wasp]

Assembly’s characters outweigh the quests by far for me personally. I think the gameplay in Sky is pretty dull but i’m more interested in the worldbuilding and spirits so…

[valid terrace]

spirit lover gang spirit lover gang

[spark lance]

Maybe is because aside from the main story our progression in game depends on a limited currency (aka candles hearts)

[dreamy grail]

Candles easier to gain / TS prices reduced with more fun elements added to make the game more enjoyable for players?

[raw wasp]

So basically i don’t really care too much if the gameplay is boring personally cus that’s not quite… what i’m here for. But a lot of people would like that…. They should really add more game emotes

[valid terrace]

fingers crossed for Mischief. if it's Enchantment themed and to a degree of the likes of Fortune and Bloom I will explode [positive]

[hybrid obsidian]

Can someone tell me when beta days of summer will be? Or has it already passed? I’ve been in since performance and I havnt seen the elusive umbrella yet

[raw wasp]

Absolutely. Honestly enchantment theming could also open up to some interesting gameplay things if that makes any sense? There’s plenty of material to work with in terms of Colored Lights

[valid terrace]

ever since I had a Very bad while over a Particular thing that happened (if you know you know) I've been on the verge of quitting more than I wish I was
I wanna be brought back but not in a way that makes me unhealthily attached

third Performance quest is so good

[spark lance]

Tbh emotes are a important part of gameplay we get emotes from every spirit and season and traveling spirit
But i think it's a breath of fresh air to have a season without it
But i hope we have more next season

[raw wasp]

I agree! I meant just for the future more emotes of that type would be cool

[hybrid obsidian]

I would like a sigh emote

[spark lance]

Something like a deep breath and a face palm 😂

[hybrid obsidian]

Yes with a slumped forward look

[raw wasp]

I feel like i’d never use something like that same reason i don’t use the Disgust emote

[mighty hollow]

I would lol I can use it for memes and jokes

[valid terrace]

honestly I wish more people liked spirits as characters otherwise I wouldn't feel so left out and have to band with people that also care about them beyond their offerings

have seen a lot of worrying, pretty much abusive comments about means of acquiring their things over time and thinking it's funny
I know that humour varies but just. it makes me upset to hear favourite characters that make me happy treated this way
I really want things to reduce that mindset in the community (or maybe I'm just seeing the worst of it and it doesn't really exist elsewhere. I hope so.)

[spark lance]

Yes sky content creators love all kind of emotes

[raw wasp]

I think an exasperated sigh emote would be good but also like I don’t want to accidentally make someone feel crummy

[mighty hollow]

Also wheres the shard today?

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[valid terrace]

can confirm; I make a lot of videos reenacting/parodying memes and media clips (primarily Spongebob scenes) and emotes are my best friend for that!

[raw wasp]

Yeah that’s fair. I used to say those kind of things but I always did like the spirits as characters. That sounds weird because it is but I don’t think its always Not Like Spirit = Not Server Friendly Jokes

[spark lance]

We have a lot of emotes but i would love different friend emotes like play fighting

I loved the addition of the dance one it's so fun

[valid terrace]

yeah I'm not saying it is. I just don't like hearing about people wanting/threatening to abuse my favourite dead people for clothes

[raw wasp]

Yeah I remember someone in genchat talking abt how they wanted to knife postman 😭

[valid terrace]

yeah Those people. this is why I mostly stay in smaller communities with people that understand

[raw wasp]

Was cool but gosh its so expensive

On another note i’m really excited about the updates to back props coming with this update when it hits Live

[wary star]

can someone tell me if this is good or not

[valid terrace]

I like the idea of it! Though, how it would be obtained is the question...how can it be implemented in a not-exclusive w -

at the Ark and Questgiver (Sleepy Traveller boat) shops. solved

[raw wasp]

It’s a little bit too overt and elaborate for something related to OOBs, if that makes any sense? It sounds great as a way to make them more accessible though

[valid terrace]

the concept has potential, it just needs refining

[wary star]

YES though i know tgc wont be so generous for something like this, so maybe 20 AC for 3 oob shield spells that last an hour?

[dreamy grail]

Sky, the game where you wander 6 different worlds, committing arson on corpses to steal their clothes, faces and hairs in an attempt to look cool and make elders bald. Traveling realms you burn candles to light your path and form candles used for trading from pieces of wax. Traveling realms you'll fight darkness and dark creatures, such as our beloved crabs turned sour and burnt shrimps. On completion of the 6 realms, you explore the shadow realm and get dropkicked by flying stones and crystal glass rain while giving your life force to the dead in exchange for Advent candles. Most of the year is run by seasons where you get shiny candles and arson other corpses for their stuff and make them relive their lives again through quests in order to shave and take the clothing of the seasons guide...

After completing the shadow realm, you go through space in order to be reborn

This is sky :)

[thorn sphinx]

hello does anyone know where today's shards are

[valid terrace]

this is my big Enchantment Moth Bias but the spell shop needs a rework 👁️

[raw wasp]

Tgc fix enchantment cutscenes challenge:impossible difficulty

[dreamy grail]

Ark, you'd know this of you checked screenshot channel first

[valid terrace]

ok hi a feature I want a lot

I want to be able to revert the Ark to earlier stages to be able to explore it that way - you don't really appreciate it at the time

also I like flying around to watch the lights soar, can we keep that pls

[dreamy grail]

Agreed, the light orbs being visible while not being dailies is a huge thing, it looks cool as well, just like the daily light orb too

[thorn sphinx]

Sorry I don't frequent this server as much so I have no idea

[valid terrace]

cyan light quest whenst

[raw wasp]

We had it like. Once i think

[spark lance]

A friend of my suggested rewarding the players for being active like a daily stamp type of system what you guys think about it?

[dreamy grail]

It's okay, sorry if it came off negatively there, was just letting you know

[raw wasp]

Also can we. Be slightly more careful with wording? This comes across as a little condescending

Edit: bad timing ty for being mindful/gen

[wary star]

its in isle so no :(

[valid terrace]

Sky as commentated by someone I never want to meet in-game [not you dw]

[raw wasp]

ADVENT CANDLES ASHSHGDGS

[valid terrace]

I like the "relive anyone at all" daily because it means someone in Isle is finally valid

[eager harness]

More like rude as well.

[raw wasp]

They owned up to it so let’s not start any arguing please

[valid terrace]

anyone have any ideas for this?

[dreamy grail]

Not doing well mentally rn anyway so if things come off wrong I apologize in advance regardless

[valid terrace]

also uh. can I bring up a quote from yesterday that I read that resonates with me a lot

this was my issue with Nature tbh. I don't want to be reminded of harsh things, I want to play this as a world away from our world........

[dreamy grail]

Also were the angry reacts seriously necessary?
The headpat indicates that it's like a "DW ab it" rather than using a "oh really" :/
Screw this I'm gunna go, see ya chat

[restive needle]

Every day we don’t get another beta update I’m filled with equal parts gratitude and dread. Gratitude because it (hopefully) means they’re working on something particularly substantial for the next patch and dread because of the possibility that nothing addresses the issues that the community has been so vocal about with this season

[cinder chasm]

I’m curious what the issue was with assembly season? I wasn’t super active besides doing dailies at the time so I probably missed it but I thought the treehouse area was nice

[ashen tusk]

Since it's still the weekend we definitely won't be getting one today, but maybe next week we'll see a dootdoot on the horizon which will answer our concerns

[valid terrace]

just personally felt forced to play certain ways due to shared spaces and cooperative tasks

[cinder chasm]

Oh yeah I still have no idea about the shared space thing it confuses me