beta-discussion

[ashen tusk]

imagine that

[lament mica]

What if the meteors would only fall in the void and they damage the animals there. We can then help them heal/clean out damage. This would feel more Sky-like to me, ie helping each other

[quiet obsidian]

“eden too intense” man but i wanna accidentally get blown out of my hidey holes in a massive explosion

[ashen tusk]

imagine kids at the shard events and all of a sudden instead of meteorites slamming into the ground it's just a bunch of sky kids who had been travelling through eden

[quiet obsidian]

alright beta folk it’s 1:40am and i think i need to sleep, nice to discuss stuff with you all!! remember to not get hit in the head with a huge shard, night night!

[timid valve]

I’d kinda like Eden to go more red during the explosion but perhaps skip the eye blinding part of it lol wrong comment people

[lament mica]

I would have loved to see Eden be expanded towards the red crystal.
More statues to save instead of making us lose stars at a faster rate the more we have. This extended area could even be something we unlock so there’s an activity to look forward to

[spark lance]

Perhaps hidden alcoves are sprinkled throughout Eden's PNR and rocky rain area. Perhaps the alcoves will have wax in them but requires you to take risks,

[ashen tusk]

we seem to be in the same timezone, thanks for reminding me I should sleep goodnight!

[spark lance]

happy sneep snorp you guys

[gilded parrot]

[lament mica]

I’m off too, thank you for the chat and for reminiscing Sky from 2019/2020, fellow vets.
I love Sky a lot, it saved my life in 2020, gave me a home and friends when I had neither. And that’s the Sky I enjoy and hope to see again: a place I can call home. Cheers!

[white drift]

is it okay to ask if there has been any new upcoming cosmetics? Or any old ones returning to the shop soon?

[twin isle]

For which events? Rainbow has all except the single flower (instead we have double flower). And we get rainbow pants as a new igc item. Rainbow earring and rainbow headphones and dual flower are the new iaps.

[white drift]

For any upcoming events! Also, thank you very much

[twin isle]

Np :] anniversary has new items as well, but I couldn't say which other than the new crown head accessory. I was a moth when anniversary first released for me so the details on what items are new and old are foggy and I've only been playing for a year. I think confetti canon is new but idr if iap or igc. Iirc it's igc? Oh also balloon prop unless that's old.

I could say for rainbow bc i have been looking forward to it for forever since I missed it when I joined and love the cosmetics

[hushed arch]

anniversary has a reskin of the performance guitar, unless that got cut

[twin isle]

Oh yeah the 30 USD iap 🗿

[spiral dawn]

where is the shards for today? am i blind or are they bugged again?

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[twin isle]

I hope for DoS we get a new igc umbrella🤲 I'm being careful with my excitement bc I feel that we won't, but I look forward to testing that.

Also shards in hermit cave in dreams!

[spiral dawn]

thank you!

[fast skiff]

That guitar is no longer part of the anniversary. The TGC guitar pack, like the Founders Cape, can be purchased as a means to support TGC.

[pseudo quail]

android users are expecing constant crashes?

[ivory basalt]

why is beta ts later than live version?

[agile hazel]

Because it's beta

[glacial barn]

Shenanigans? Anything I don't really understand I chalk up to shenanigans. Though beta is also just as likely the reason

[ivory basalt]

i was just wondering because they used to be the same

[lyric kite]

I think it was to make up for when we were doing the Days of Summer testing or something last year, because we missed some of the TS that live had because of that. But either way yeah, it's not really that important because it's just beta. But I think that was part of the reason

[reef adder]

Erm I just saw a guy with 15 wings .-.

[lament meteor]

Those Days of Rainbow headphones without price yet, I think TGC doesn't want players complaining about it being too expensive 💀

[lyric kite]

Report them if you can, if not then just ignore

[reef adder]

Still unable to T-T

[limpid crown]

Hmmm... I wonder what the last quest is gonna be

[elder inlet]

watch it still be burning plants

[lyric kite]

I wonder what the final memory will be though at least, we've covered most of the creatures already

[spark lance]

EDENKINGEDENKINGEDENKINGEDENKINGEDENKINGEDENKING

[limpid crown]

Perhaps we'll see the long lost elder (The King) for once

🕯️MANIFESTING THE KING'S APPEARANCE IN THIS SEASON🕯️

[spark lance]

all i want for this season is eden crown i mean eden king

[versed dome]

Sorry where is the Shattering quest shard in Valley today?

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[grave jetty]

Yeah, I think the only creatures we haven't seen yet are butterflies, birdies, and the Abyss Leviathan.

(There's a sentence I never thought I'd type).

[wind lodge]

The King is an empath he'll come hopefully /j

[grave jetty]

But the king is a dark empath so he might not show up just to be a big heck

[elder inlet]

abyss leviathan tho

[errant dirge]

Well I just landed on the big larva? In the middle and there was a wing. Hmmmm that was interesting.

Has anyone else seen this?

[raw wasp]

Rudolph the red nosed Leviathan

[serene steppe]

Hey guys, quick question, How many wings did you found?

I have only found 1

[elder inlet]

same for me

[serene steppe]

Oh well I think we need to wait for more, I hope so TGC lately has placed few

[errant dirge]

Can we go back to previous memories to check for wings?

[serene steppe]

I tried but I couldn’t

[vagrant fable]

(ping off) My guess is that it's going to be an overlap of all the memories we've seen thus far put together

[errant dirge]

Thank you

[grave jetty]

Not currently. This is probably a bug.

[errant dirge]

Thank you that saves unnecessary effort 😁

[grave jetty]

You actually CAN go back to your most recent memory, just by doing a red shard when you aren't on a quest. But this only works until you do your next quest (because that will change the memory you go to). For example, the whale memory dropped today. If you missed the WL the first tine you went, you can still go back to the whale quest, but you can't go back to the manta quest. And unleas this bug is fixed, once the last quest drops, you will stop going to the whale quest. So get that whale WL soon.

[errant dirge]

Thank you

[spark agate]

Wait so where can you find the WL?

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[versed steppe]

You were supposed to share

[misty path]

can someone tell me the amount of days there r in the season of shattering a the moment?

[stark cloud]

Wonder how we can collect the wl in the memory again after the season ended

[rapid reef]

Real quick- But is TGC really going to implement the whole "crawl on all four when your light is extinguished" in Eden for good or is it only for during the current season?

||Because NGL. I really don't approve of that idea and hope it's not permanent.||

[grave jetty]

The day timer in Beta is really unreliable. Our seasons are almost always much shorter than Live's (that's why we get SCs so quickly), but even if you take that into account, the timer almost always has to be adjusted a few times. That hasn't happened yet in Shaftering, so I don't think it's wise to trust Beta's timer for anything.

[spark agate]

28 days left! But it’s not permanent/it varies

[spark lance]

unfortunately, it seems permanent afaik

[maiden pond]

It would seem that the devs do not plan to remove it, but I feel like it can be completely reworked and only occur when seriously damaged and even in the endless rain in Eden you shouldn't get knocked down unless the camera slow mos the action then render you downed, just like getting krilled, but you can get up after 3 seconds even if you take additional damage but I feel like once you hit less than 10 winged light it should be more harsh.

[rapid reef]

I really don't think the devs should add it as a permanent feature in general. I hate running eden with people and always go alone and I know many people that prefer doing it that way.

But that change will simply make a lot of people reluctant to go and a few new player might even avoid it and feel less likely to stay. I'm reading so much negativity about this feature. I'm just impressed they are actually going through with it.

[spark lance]

going for eden for the first time in shattering now.. wish me luck

[misty path]

ohh i understand now, thanks for telling me!

[maiden pond]

If the devs do not want to remove the mechanic, the simple way to fix it and both be satisfactory enough for the devs and community in general is a complete overhaul of the system, I have posted feedback about my idea and already on how the new mechanic of crawling and being knocked down should work. I personally think the crawling system and knocked down effect are a nice idea but it was executed poorly.

[rapid reef]

While I can understand your point- I don't believe this level of difficulty was needed. Why should sky become harder and harder when it's a game centered around interraction? The grind is all ready crazy for new players, the constant push for IAP- And now increasing the difficulty when there was no need for?

That was simply not needed to me. Feels like TGC actively go against their players. What'S next.. IAP for ascended candles just to get a quick buck?

[maiden pond]

I really like the feeling of vulnerability, as someone who came from a survival game where vulnerability was the driving factor of the game. But what I see from you guys is the fear and wanting the removal of it entirely, I want to be in TGC's shoes and talk to them about the system staying, just have a complete overhaul and rework and let you guys go ham on it and if you don't like it, maybe remove it entirely.

[pastel widget]

Where are the shards in valley today?

[rapid reef]

Thing is; Sky is not a survival game.

[stark cloud]

Tgc need to spawn 100 crabs & 1000 krills in Eden

[spark lance]

Hermit valley

[maiden pond]

Yes, I agree, the game at its core is nothing more than a grind for things you want, there's just lack of activities to do that aren't repetitive. I know Sky is not a survival game, but I am merely saying that survival and vulnerability are one of the same, when you think about it, Sky is a peaceful game up until Wasteland and Eden, where it becomes apparent that you are not going to get by without danger, the feeling of vulnerability itself adds to the immersion, people want to find ways to defend against Dark Dragons, but I myself think the repellent spells are enough.

[gilded parrot]

I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first

[rapid reef]

I come from horror games, to me Eden and Wasteland are the perfect place to be at. I don't use those glitches to not lose wls, I take the hit and play the game as it was meant to be. I don't think the dark dragons or eden is scary. But I'm not going to enjoy implementation that terrify people or make them not want to play just because it would cather to my personal niche.

There's a point you have to acknowledge the game is not about horror, survival, or what ever other thing people might want to have in sky. This is a social game. Story oriented with an heavy focus on it's social aspect. Add in more difficulty and you end up losing players and having people quit for being mislead into thinking they could come and relax in the game.

[maiden pond]

I myself haven't been burnt out from the grinding yet, but I understand at one point, I too, will tire of the mindless grinding. For what? Overpriced pants? I agree prices should be lowered to accommodate for new players as well.

Also strongly agree with your very valid points, Sky at its core is about connecting people around the world regardless of who they are or where they are from. It's the celebration of humanity in gaming and the struggles and harmonies we face together as imperfect humans. That's the beauty of it all, heck, I haven't even played Journey and I watched some of it but know it's a piece of art in itself. Sky is no different, TGC is excellent in creating games that bring people together, just like what their mission statement says.

[spark lance]

tbh the grinding issue has actually been making it hard to play on beta too, not just live. its hard for me to test and send meaningful feedback when im so busy with irl stuff i only get to play sky right before bed, where i spend most of my time on live grinding. then there's the beta grind and the general motivation to test... on top of irl stuff.

beta players def face the issue of over-exhaustion in that regard since we do everything twice, but i think that is more indicative of the repetition of the game. im tempted to take an extended testing hiatus for those reasons

[rapid reef]

I understand you might want more difficulty in the game, I would really want more horror gimmick.

But I think it's just very unfair on new players or players who don't have times or the social skills to have group of friend to impose this difficulty and make things harder for them to reach receiving things. It create this fear of missing out. That make people stress. The last thing we should do is encourage sky into becoming something that would make kids not want to pertake in the core aspect of the game and it's mechanism.

[maiden pond]

Understandable, it's not just about the experienced players all the time, we have to think about new players. I feel like TGC overlooked this very important tidbit of information when implementing this new crawling mechanic. It adds a sense of helplessness and suffering, I agree, but if the devs are really lenient on it staying permanently, the least that can be done about it is to do a rework of it entirely so that you're not always put in a crawl state.

When I was a new player, I myself had concerns about how the game should hold the player's hand a little more and give them more information each time they figure things out on their own as a reward for doing things themselves.

[rapid reef]

Have it so it's not activated when alone in Eden would be a great way to remedy people against it and people who are for it.

Why have this difficulty when you're alone- Have it when you're going with friends since then at least you'll be able to actually get help. This difficulty is being implemented even when you're all alone in a lobby. It mean that if you're alone, you can't even get through the first bit of eden unless you play perfectly.

[signal folio]

I get that the shard events are meant to kind of clue how dark plants got all over the realms, but I think there needs to be way less shard locations in realms that are as is less touched by darkness.

To me it doesn't make sense that Prairie is able to be so clean yet now there is a retcon almost of implying that these eruptions have always been happening (but are just now being implemented).

It just feels like too much

[maiden pond]

This actually makes so much sense.

[misty bone]

to be honest, i just dun wanna get the others around me to get bullied if they do not voluntarily join the shard events.. =/ this event has gotten easier abit since the first version but...

[rapid reef]

It would also be the perfect solution. Have people be able to live this difficulty but not force it on solo wanderer or people who purposefully go alone. Imagine you got a veteran helping you and then leave you alone because the difficulty would be too much even for them- At least they still get to experience the old eden and see it isn't so bad.

[maiden pond]

I've actually looked over and seen a couple videos of how stupidly difficult the new mechanic is, but I'm saying that in the sense if TGC is keeping the crawling mechanic permanently, at least only have it active when around friends or strangers. Or just rework it with invincibility frames to counter the time to get up.... SOMETHING. I don't exactly think myself it's executed well, but it is a good idea.

[signal folio]

I've also got concerns about CR and just being in the overrun realm of the day.

Forest gets really foggy so unless you want to avoid or do shard it's not fun to be in all day

[rapid reef]

I still remember when prophecy released and people would cry about the difficulty of the trials. I was so into it, I enjoyed them all and the fire trial was my favourite. But the difference is that the difficulty of the trial were restricted to the trials. Here- The difficulty isn't restricted and there's no way to get through things without a mass friend group.

I miss being able to do the skip on the earth trial. I had literally perfected the jump and everything. Smh-

[maiden pond]

The added difficulty this adds on a solo player just flabbergasts me.

[rapid reef]

I personally don't care about the added difficulty since I have enough stars to be comfortable and no returning spirits carry anything I could ever want. But I try to put myself in other people's shoes and that's why I'm avidly against this being permanent, plus if so- That it's not applied on solo players.

[signal folio]

I havent had time to test some of the harder shards, how many players did it take for yall? now I'm nervous

[maiden pond]

Solo and new players will cry and complain so much about this difficulty, I can sense it already.

[rapid reef]

Well, it's not without reason truthfully. But hopefully they listen.

[maiden pond]

I mean, let's hope they're listening NOW while it's in its early stages. The season is still beta and still subject to changes, I just wonder if it keeps being criticized at this rate, I hope they extend off season or even Performance by a week at least. Things don't seem to be looking right and we can only pray and hope that TGC looks into our concerns.

[errant dirge]

Well I got hit and fell on the red shards while soloing the quest. Crawling to the light I so fortunately left for my self was quire the ordeal. The little lights on the flying birds were blinking ferociously causing a lot of anxiety. I flopped in one place for a while (forever), then I could stagger over the the light to get power back. Bottom line I was unable to collect all the memory lights, but I did get 3 ac. So while it was very unpleasant, it was not impossible.

[maiden pond]

Bottom line is that it wasn't a very pleasant experience, even if it's a season correlating to Eden, the player experience shouldn't be unpleasant as you just said yourself.

[spark lance]

i just came back from eden, got in with 45ish wl came back with 9,5 ac

and yes the crawling is annoying

[shadow stratus]

Thats really good

[carmine crescent]

Did they change the shard locations in valley?

[chrome ivy]

What's the maximum AC you can get in one Eden Run

[cursive tinsel]

I could get the wax/AC with just collecting 1 light shard but someone mentioned getting wax without joining the event at all , just were in the same area...

[chrome ivy]

They joined the Shard Area after the existing user in the area finished the event

[bright portal]

Not sure if they can even seperate solo and group animations in pnr. It really depends on how they code it in the first place. It's hard to fix up old spaghetti coding

Edit : referring to the whole disabling crawling animations for solo players on the discussion above

[cursive tinsel]

Apparently they didn't join anything to do with the shard event , they were just collecting normal cr in the same zone

I'll have to test shortly

[chrome ivy]

What's PNR?

[bright portal]

Point of no return, the place where u give ur wl into the statues in eden

[chrome ivy]

For Example, They Candle run at Dream's Area but that area was Shard event. That's normal

[chrome ivy]

Sky is the Pasta while the code is Spaghetti 🗿

[cursive tinsel]

So you think you should get AC just if you happen to be in dreams when other complete the shard event for you, even though you didn't interact with the shard at all?

[bright portal]

Haha i suppose you can put it that way

Anyways , i believe is quite unlikely or it will take a long time for them to ever disable crawling animations for solo players , at least it would probably be a low priority task and maybe assign one dev to do it. (if there is much demand in feedback for it)

[chrome ivy]

I think because there's no mechanism that you need to do to trigger the event like Assembly do with the Scavenger hunt that you need to meditate.
You join the area alongside the Shard event

[spark lance]

Or can they just make crawling happen if our wing count is very low, when we almost die. Or at certain numbers of wings left, preferably 20-ish or 10. So we dont hv to suffer everytime we got knocked down. So i can run from those vicious shard crabs.

[chrome ivy]

So to prevent such thing happen they can make a event that you need to trigger via burn the tree's until disappear. If only burn slight of it people would just do that trigger the event and goes away and Cr normally and defeats the purpose of it

[bright portal]

They could do a 10-15 second walk animation before the crawl animation triggers , maybe it will give people time to find a recharge spot or get charge by someone

[chrome ivy]

I more wanted that injured animation is when you get injured you will have immunity until debuffed movement happens. During that crawling time you won't get knocked for compensate the Rocks that raining in phase 2 PNR

[glossy mica]

is the price in rainbow day out?

[lethal nebula]

Does anyone knows where the darkness shard at? I can't seem to find it

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[warm rain]

Fax

The new beta Eden update is so frustrating

[spark lance]

Anyone else facing issue while completing the Act II in village theater ?

[spark lance]

15.75 iirc

[mighty hornet]

Uhm, I want to ask, are the ultimate season cape already out of date to trade? I can't find them anywhere. I thought this was a bug and report it but no response

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well

[spark lance]

#beta-known-issues

[mighty hornet]

Okay thank you

[ashen tusk]

Sorry for late reply, if you're facing issue then drop a bug report anyways just in case, even if it's not currently on the agenda for testing - any bugs in beta should be flagged so they don't end up sneaking into live where possible
Also feel free to expand in case it's something you need help or clarity with, but you could check in #questions-and-help if it's not beta content related

[hollow compass]

It's always good to explain a bit more than just saying "does anyone else have a bug". After all, it could also be a new feature...!

[ashen tusk]

"I have many a bug, please say more"

[elfin delta]

@tropic otter @drowsy elk rainbow pant is still considered beta content so please don't talk about it outside beta channels

[drowsy elk]

Sorry

[elfin delta]

@safe lichen @potent tulip please refer to the message above

Gosh how many people do i have to ping

[spark lance]

why didnt y’all delete ur message

[dreamy grail]

@sharp yew read above

[sharp yew]

gotcha, i'm sorry

[dreamy grail]

Beta dailies:
♦️ - Visit a fallen shard of darkness
💌 - Send a gift to a friend
🌷 - Admire sapling 0/60
- Relive Courageous Soldier in Golden Wasteland

[agile hazel]

Shard not at broken temple, graveyard, shipwreck or battefield

[ashen tusk]

send gift to a friend with what candles I really need to cr in beta good lord

I hope the farmer doesn't get flattened by shards in ark

SCARECROW FARMER, MY BELOVED

[dreamy grail]

Me with 183 🕯️

[agile hazel]

Not at reef, so ark?

It's at Ark, no red skies so it threw me off at first

[dreamy grail]

How... Many... Times.... No.. heart reacts PLEASEEEE
It makes me really uncomfortable :(
Thank you

[white latch]

What is happening

[ashen tusk]

♦️

[white latch]

Ah yes, red diamond from Steve universe

[nova bay]

May I suggest that you put ‘please no red heart reacts’ (or something like that) in your name instead of ‘read card for bounds” I think then more ppl notice it?

[scarlet hemlock]

I got 3 AC from the shard today 😀

[neat maple]

🟡 🟡 ♦️ 🔵 🔵

[spark lance]

Is it just me or is there anyone else also haven't been able to complete any season quest? :D

I haven't even been able to clear the 1st quest. Any shard i can clear, that is not in crash area/map, doesn't give me meditation spot

[agile hazel]

wait did Hermit shard give ac yesterday?

Forgot to record that, so that puts me at 28 AC this week: 13 Eden, 15 shards

[ashen tusk]

I've managed to do 4 quests but the shard yesterday didn't let me meditate and I wasn't able to repeat it at the time so I might end up doing today's shard repeatedly in the hopes I get quest 5 done

[elfin delta]

Hoping i won't crash at ark later. Does the event there have medi circle?

Aight thenku i'll log on beta when i have free time lmao

[broken fractal]

I got 4

[spark lance]

So, if we keep on coming back to clear the darkness, there's a chance medi circle would appear? I'm totally confused abt this season quest

[elfin delta]

There are shards that give regular wax and doesn't have medi circle and shards that give AC and has medi circle if i'm understanding correctly

[agile hazel]

Easiest way to tell if there's red crabs, that means medi circle

[ashen tusk]

Yeah if you've not managed to complete the quest with medi then sometimes repeatedly doing it will eventually have it show up

[spark lance]

I was clearing a shattering area with shard crabs, but i only got wax. This alone made me lazy to redo and clear again

[terse yarrow]

Red crab, red shard that hurt and thrust you away. I think daily required visit shard also a sign of medi shard ?

[spark lance]

Anyone knows the exact date of the next season

[terse yarrow]

Everything in beta isn't sure when come to live until #news

[ashen tusk]

As I mentioned earlier in cozy, it's unlikely to be anytime soon

[spark lance]

Ok thanks 😊

[ashen tusk]

I really don't understand why there's not been a fix for this issue, we shouldn't have to redo the shards just for the medi circle to appear

[broken fractal]

I like that the unflippable crabs have so many names 😂 I personally name them Eden Crabs

[weary timber]

😂same,even for me they like annoying kids🤌😆

[orchid frigate]

Ok honking doesn’t flip the crabs but however I can get it’s attention and draw them away while everyone is burning plants I believe 🤔

[analog pecan]

Is Ark the only shard location?

[weary timber]

@analog pecan yea when it falls can't see them in same location every time

[analog pecan]

Thanks 🥰

[orchid frigate]

Okkk note to self do not call on an injured player near a crab that’ll just draw it’s attention so yeah

[ashen tusk]

hell spawn is my go to name for them

ark looks extra pretty with the red skies

[orchid frigate]

Until you saw the waters still blue as ever lolz you can tell one of the enchantment spirit did the water so good

[ashen tusk]

it just makes all the colours so much more vibrant and beautiful, I love it!

If we all just wait long enough they'll go on their adventures and we can burn the darkness uninterrupted

[cursive tinsel]

Ok still where are the red crabs going...they just climbed over the boat/ark but the shard reset before I saw where they end up

The water by QG?

Best tips for red crabs as solo/duo...lure them away.
After enough distance from a player they reset to their NPC migration mode and just waddle away leaving no crabs whatsoever

[steady falcon]

🇷 🇴 🇲 🇦 🇳

[ashen tusk]

I love the migration mode, it's adorable, just waddle waddle waddle

Don't spam?

[woeful obsidian]

Where is the spirit today?

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[spark lance]

no i ate it

[hollow compass]

I think we have the same quests as Live, apart from the shard ones. So just check #seasons-events-chat

[dreamy grail]

@woeful obsidian spirit is green cape

[woeful obsidian]

Wich area?

[dreamy grail]

The one Infront of the first krill

#seasons-events-chat message

[scarlet hemlock]

The first krill you see in map

[hollow compass]

The quests are posted in #seasons-events-chat . You can just check the guides there.

[woeful obsidian]

Thanks

[scarlet hemlock]

I saw the pictures about WL and wonder why add WL in memory? I tried to reach but its too high with me

[hollow compass]

Unsure. It's also still unclear how these quests can be relived, if at all, when they hit Live.

[cursive tinsel]

I presume it's a bug as there is a relive option it just doesn't do anything

That also means you could visit the memories at any time if the QG stays somewhere in the realm after season

I wonder where? Eden lobby?

[agile hazel]

I thought so as well, but it seems like you can relive memories through the guide. Though it's not working rn cause bugs but you do get the prompt

[spark lance]

i hope they dont give us a darkness plant in a pot

[worn field]

This is not related to beta testing, so please do not continue the topic

[spark lance]

hi mod

[dreamy grail]

Thank you Joshi, I tried to do that and it just looped back 😦

Now about the final quest and likely updates next week

[ashen tusk]

Joshi could you also drop by cozy and remove discussions of beta issues as they're irrelevant and spectating/bad mouthing other channels is also against server rules.

[molten panther]

I'm sorry, but this topic keeps on popping. This person can't stop causing drama here.

[worn field]

thanks for understanding

[dreamy grail]

I doubt they'd do that
I think if anything we'd probably see a darkness related item wether it be something to do with eden or Wasteland.

@ashen tusk I removed my own message in cozy already

[worn field]

as a general reminder, often-times it may be best to report incidents in #contact-the-mods rather than engaging directly, especially if light reminders about rules have already been given

[dreamy grail]

I just thought, how many quests did flight have again? Was it 5 or was it 6?
Because if it was 6 then flight and shattering have basically the same sort of layout regarding the QGs

[elfin delta]

I believe it was 5 recent seasons have been having 5 quest so far

[dreamy grail]

Thought it was, the trees started seeming similar after the trees were split in two, so I just suddenly thought that the two seem similar in a way (especially if we don't get a F2P UG this season, then they'll seem quite similar)

[spark lance]

assembly also have 6

[kind prawn]

Wow.. crabs not in a good mood today. Bad, bad, bad mood

[dreamy grail]

True, but Assembly had like 3 F2P items in the QG tree
@kind prawn oh god.. how many tried ramming you at once this time?

[spark lance]

and the best part is, they didnt go away like the sword pants did

[kind prawn]

All of them..

[dreamy grail]

I believe sword pants left because it was a Collab and TGC didn't get to hold the copyright holder for the things to keep it after the seasonal duration?

[pulsar blade]

I have a suggestion guys. Its ok to play or ignore the darkness crabs when we are burning the darkness. Making a deep call to topple them really dont works as owr my experience even in normal crabs. Making deep calls just making them more agitated😉🤔 i dont know if im right but i just based it on my experience🤫

[kind prawn]

It was as if I was a dartboard.. and they were the darts.. in hands of players with perfect aims.. never missing.. always hitting the bullseye each and every time.. it was fun, impressive 👏 🦀

[dreamy grail]

Skykids: -honk once in crab infested areas trying to prevent being crabbed-
Crab mama: THERE THEY ARE! AFTER THEM!!!!

[kind prawn]

Yeah, might as well wave a red cape in a shop full of bulls.. 😂👍

[elfin delta]

This is exactly why i don't deep call whenever i go cr in shipwreck gw

[elder inlet]

the fear you feel when your passenger deep call at crab field💀

[elfin delta]

Truest thing

[kind prawn]

One would hope that our Crab call would come in handy in such cases.. but nooooo.. would have been nice if it did

[dreamy grail]

I've had something happen in live like a month and a half ago, and wondered if it's ever happened to anyone in beta as well;

So I was in eden and we were at the telescope tower in the second part of eden before the climb to the wing paths. The krill going around the base of the tower spotted me as I flew under it and I instantly got extingushed when it touched me (in non agro) . Has this ever happened to anyone in beta?

God if the wing splatter thingy was in live at that point I'd have been bleeding wings out taht I wouldn't have been able to recover

[elfin delta]

I rarely go to eden in beta so not really

[dreamy grail]

Might have just been where I was at with it being an odd tight space with the krill, so it's probably liable to happen in tight spaces in GW as well?

[quiet obsidian]

pretty sure that must be a new feature now, i got extinguished when i flew into a krill in live a couple weeks ago. I could go into Eden and check if it’s in beta too if you want?

[kind prawn]

Perhaps you got too close and touched it.. that would usually not be a good thing.. at times that knocks ya off yer feet. It doesn’t result in losing wings, but can extinguish light.. i kinda remember stuff like that happening.. don’t touch krill!!

[dreamy grail]

I thought so... Usually they just make you fall over if you touch them, but maybe because it triggered agro just as I touched the krill it caused an extinguish?

[spark lance]

Huh that's odd because I've never had that happen to me. I've been even riding the krills but my light never got extinguished
They have a strong wind wall if you go too close to them

[elfin delta]

OH wait now i remember. If i go too near to a krill i would go extinguished as well. The krill won't go agro on me tho. It's been a thing for a long time i think

I don't lose wings either

[dreamy grail]

Try it if you want but we wouldn't want you to bleed wings out if it bugs like it did recently

[kind prawn]

I try not to touch the krill.. as a general rule.. call it a personal preference.

[quiet obsidian]

i hit the krill bc i was trying to make a cool exit from the last tunnel in eden and my friends watched my light go poof

[spark lance]

Gosh the winds from eden got a lot stronger. It's so difficult trying to get to the wl cave without being obliterated by the rocks

[elfin delta]

Dang i really need to toughen up and go to eden the normal way instead of oob to actually see what has changed 💀

[quiet obsidian]

it’s sad, bc i really enjoy going the normal route up eden instead of oobing to the top, but lately it’s becoming even harder to do 😭

[near crescent]

Ehh
While sitting to get memory of shard i honked so standed up and then sit again, but when got in here is was empty room and my quest didn't count, so i got back here and... No shards, as sight i got this

So ... Will i get quest at next shard event or... It get losted?

[ashen tusk]

but what if I wanna pet the krill

[kind prawn]

Back to crabs today.. man, the things I saw.. so much light lost, so many users crawling lightless, helpless.. and me being unable to help them within that swarm of angry crabs.. it’s the stuff of nightmares. And I am huge fan of crabs.. in soup or spiced up in a pan.

(I have never wished to pet a krill, don’t see that changing anytime soon..) (ha!!)

[fair mural]

When I chat or meditate, it keeps getting out of the game. What should I do?..I just got out of the game because of this phenomenon.

[ashen tusk]

Yesterday I got bonked by crabs and extinguished then someone came to help and they couldn't relight me because I got bonked again as they got their candle out

[dreamy grail]

I haven't seen anything said about it, but any idea on where the shards are today or did they bug again?

[quiet obsidian]

it’s just ark to the best of my knowledge

[kind prawn]

Yeah, they break up the fire items we use to get light back too.. nasty crabs.

[dreamy grail]

Ahhhh cool, thanks, I wasn't sure if it was in ark when someone said it wasn't in the usual places

[quiet obsidian]

ayo i think my crabs broke
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[ashen tusk]

They're on vacation

[agile hazel]

Crabs breaking props is annoying but worth the sacrifice for krill protection

[quiet obsidian]

i went afk just by the shard and when i came back they all ran off 💀💀💀

[kind prawn]

Perhaps using krill, instead of crabs, would have been more.. interesting, while clearing dark plants in quests.. maybe possibly.

Would have been nice to see krill flying about in the rest of the sky kingdom too, in places where we don’t usually see or expect them to be.

[timid bough]

crashland a krill

[shut shuttle]

Am I the only one who can never find where the shards land??

When all the maps are pink I have no clue

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[kind prawn]

Near the Ark today.. near about

[kindred fossil]

Quest at Ark feels like an intense tag game, I was mostly jumping about to avoid the crabs than burning 💀

0/10 would do again

[kind prawn]

Much too like swimming with hungry sharks in neck deep water 😂👍

[kindred fossil]

Nightmare mode shipwreck

[wheat widget]

I want darkness for home also 🥹

[pulsar blade]

If you guy saw me lying on the grounds of the ark doing nothing or not helping others where the shards fell, its me filming and i can see some mistakes really, in my opinion, dont agitate the crabs by honking. For me its a big no no no no

[quiet obsidian]

oh god me and another random person just got completely obliterated by crabs and then they left

[kindred fossil]

Wasn’t even honking, those crabs are merciless, attacking from every corner

[nova bay]

If you saw me agitate the crabs by honking it’s because I was filming XD

[agile hazel]

No confirmation on jelly or krill wl yet?

[quiet obsidian]

and now the crabs are going on vacation AGAIN???

[kindred fossil]

I could check real quick, I think

[pulsar blade]

Is it just me that cant review the memories or?

[quiet obsidian]

yeah that’s a problem atm, seeing as they put wl in memories they should fix it soon tho

[nova bay]

Someone just showed in #beta-screenshots-videos how

#beta-screenshots-videos message

[agile hazel]

I really should do the Flight quests to unlock the windpaths

[elfin delta]

I'm reporting to say that i didn't found any wing at krill memory 😔 (tho my 8 wedges could be the biggest factor to it-)

[cursive tinsel]

If it was 1 WL every ancient memory, that's 6 total and we haven't had that many since like sanctuary/dreams?

Maybe it's just 3 total

[elfin delta]

Also lack of fire pot i regret not buying from fire prophet (i can't even buy the one from assembly because i crash there 😔 )

[broken fractal]

Sanc have the biggest count of star so far (8 of them) and have been unbeatable ever since

[cursive tinsel]

Who knows...WL counts and positions are never final until it goes Live

[spark lance]

Went to help other players and the crabs humbled me so bad

[gaunt frost]

Where's the shards todat?

[gilded parrot]

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! You may ask here if you are struggling, but together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience Remember to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well!

[tropic radish]

Sanct has the most wl and fastest wax in one area
I think the "sanctuary eternal" thing has gone full circle/hj

[worldly scarab]

Did tgc decided a price on the headphones alredy?

[quiet cliff]

It’s a joke ….

[kindred fossil]

What?

[quiet cliff]

The way the crabs just don’t let up it’s a bloody nightmare … so annoying and frustrating …. “ it’s a joke “ as in are TGC kidding me !!!! 😱

[kindred fossil]

Oooh, haha
It’s actually kind of fun as long as I don’t get knocked down, competing for gold in Crab Avoiding Olympics 💪

It’s a nightmare solo, though

[cursive tinsel]

I tried that relive past ancient memories by selecting off the QG first then do the shard event.

Didn't work for me...whales again

[dreamy grail]

Just saying you might Wana edit that, cursing isn't allowed on server and neither is abreviating/self censoring. Pretty sure a mod would remove that and remind you that chats supposed to be clean and family friendly

[hollow jay]

Talking about our new species of crabs?
#beta-screenshots-videos message
I just wanna thank those strangers. They helped me when I was under attack.

It was about an hour ago. If you're here I'm lucky to meet you guys

[cursive tinsel]

Also decided a new career in crab rodeo and lassoing.

Stop honk y'all , you are just a magnet to crabs.
This is gonna be a cruel prank on unknowing live player first shard event that comes.
They honk to flip the crab, and they get mobbed

[quiet cliff]

Are they ? Ooops yes your right that was accidental …,

[hollow jay]

→ →

[dreamy grail]

Nws, just keep it in mind, saves mods having to bean a few messages and stuff

[fervent ridge]

The way a shard delayed and fell over 3 people after a minute, including me, just started the rain of WL it's painful and funny

[fast nebula]

It's a bit of a dilemma. The honks attract the crabs, yes, but what if next to you is somebody who needs energy quickly? I decided that I will honk to give the energy - and hope others will do the same for me 💐💕

[stark cloud]

GG to people that burn the shard quest alone.

[dreamy grail]

Me who did the first two alone due to lobby bugs then I had to do it with other people joining who were in the lobby

Well one thing's for certain, this season forces us to explore the realms more rather than speedrunning through realms and spending like a minute in one area then spending ages in another

[cursive tinsel]

I find better to rescue their wings immediately and then I try to distract the crabs away so I can get time to light them fully and get them back on their feet and escape

But all first aid and help to others is good

[golden steppe]

They will most likely post the price within the next live update (so explaining the new stuff added to live)

[dreamy grail]

Before reset yesterday, I was getting SCs in GW and someone watched me lose a wing before flying over to help, like they knew I had been crabbed but they stood and watched till it cracked before lighting me

Found it funny the other time when all my wings went neyooom bleeding out of me

[proven kindle]

When will seasonal quest 4 be available?

[fast nebula]

Absolutely, if they have already lost some, but that wasn't the situation I meant there. I meant pre-loss of wings, just no energy reserves left.

[dreamy grail]

The 5th one unlocked yesterday...

[quiet cliff]

Oh I know I do t usually make this mistake xxx

[dreamy grail]

Okay that made me uncomfortable with the kisses on the end-

[pale junco]

I see why tgc said it will be like prophecy... the quests are similarly frustrating and annoying

[vital crystal]

Though these shards quests are really frustrating, I kinda like we can lure the crabs for a distance away from the area and roam on their own and not disturb us.

[spark lance]

yea you’re right, one of the similarities is you need to finish the quest to get a wl

well some of them iirc

[vital crystal]

Interestingly, the crabs didn't put out the bonfire of the other player I was with. They did that behavior quite some builds ago

[quiet obsidian]

at least prophecy was fun and not repetitive

[karmic spoke]

oops its in ark

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well

[half nest]

it's in ark, past the boat!

[mental ridge]

^ this. Prophecy did what they said in the article Shattering would do: introduced something new. You can dislike the trials, but you can’t deny we hadn’t had anything like them before. That’s one of the reasons why Prophecy was so exciting (at least in my case)! I don’t feel like Shattering introduces anything new (other than crawling, I suppose. changes in the environment, as gorgeous as they are, are something they already used in “days of” events). The thing it makes me think of first and foremost is burning plants (and I didn’t even like doing it before Shattering…).

Also, Prophecy had more lore than an Eden based season.

[naive solar]

ah the classic "but prophecy x"

[mental ridge]

I just feel like the way they worded that part of the article was somewhat misleading (plus I really like Prophecy, so ).

[worldly scarab]

Where in ark is the shard today? Also do I need to complete all prophecy quest?

[naive solar]

as confusing as that article is, the prophecy part was the least confusing or misleading one. they weren't comparing Shattering to Prophecy, they were providing an example of a gameplay oriented season, as well as saying that it'll be completely different to the seasons you've seen before.

[karmic spoke]

mfw im getting attacked by crabs and losing hella light and strangers are laughing at me instead of lighting me

ps- shard is right before scarecrow fields, might have to wait for them to fall ( i did! )

[dreamy grail]

Shard is at Scarecrows fields from what I'm seeing

[mental ridge]

I didn’t say the connection itself was confusing (focus on gameplay and story in the background is something they both have in common, agreed, even though I personally can hardly see a story in Shattering), but that part of the article was. That’s where they mention the “brand new world element”, which is arguably more of a mixture of old world elements rather than a new one. That’s why I worded my first message that way - Prophecy did what they said in the article Shattering would do.

[fluid quail]

do u guys think the guide of this season is staying after it ends? it looks like it won't, unless it'll be at orbit or something for whatevers gonna happen at the last quest.

[lilac epoch]

Any other shard besides the one in Ark?

Got 5 ACs there yay

It seems the devs have been listening to our feedback about making the minigame at the end of the shard quest more manageable (the darkness plants at forest was a major pain to burn), I like the crab frgaments of light - much more fair

[maiden pond]

Personally, I think it should at least reside in Eden, just by the first door.

[lilac epoch]

Am I only the one who thinks the WL located at the whale memory is overkill as far as distance and height? Took me 11 flaps to get to it

[nova bay]

I have 7 flaps and didn’t even come close XD

[lilac epoch]

Legit burned up all my 11 flaps and someone even said they spammed recharge and anti gravity spells

[nova bay]

It would be nice if the air gives us flight power like season of flight area used to have very briefly

[half nest]

person who helped me earlier used a table spell/floating prop glitch, then recharged there (their original prop was juggler's fire pot)

[lilac epoch]

Oooh that's a great idea

[nova bay]

I already left feedback about that too - it would make the memories so amazing to explore

[lilac epoch]

Brb sending feedback (borrowing evin's idea of ambient recharging!), pings okay if anyone needs a reply from me

[fluid quail]

I also left a feedback on that, currently I suggest using the instant recharge spell. that's how I managed to explore.

[naive trail]

I wonder how much is gonna change from Beta to Live— i haven’t seen too many positive feedbacks on this season

[small field]

I haven’t been able to play this season due to personal things but after attempting to get the shards god lord this isn’t hard this is near on impossible

[half nest]

from what i've seen, ark and sunny forest shards have been considered the hardest (compared to the other locations)

[lilac epoch]

I mean... why can't we just SEE the winged light? We can see the halo clearly in normal areas, why shouldn't we at the Void?

Remember the star at sanc valley? That shiny boi soooo far out on his own floating isle? Even from miles away in midair, we can see his halo.

[cursive tinsel]

I keep meetin dyesynced players whoi can light or recharge but get knocked over by crabs I can't see and burn plants I can't see

Is it just beta servers playing up or actually the game?

Ark is only hard if you don't clear the crabs out towards the ark shops first.
Sunny forest was horrible because the crabs don't migrate at all and you were trapped in a very confined area

[glossy ridge]

the second time I have a situation where I burned the plants and meditate to see memory that was not there. Has anyone experienced this too?

[worldly scarab]

The red crystal crabs are really weird. I was doing the shard in ark and they started migrating to the windpath. 2 crabs still got playing w me until I got away to recharge. When I came back they were in the crowd, slowly migrating towards the windpath

[spark lance]

Where are the shards today

[warm island]

Ark

[stuck notch]

heya!
just here to ask if anyone knows how much the price will be for the rainbow pants, plus the spells
im nooot sure if it'll be pricey or not but I'd like to make sure
sorry if this is the wrong chat to ask-

[spark lance]

Just Ark? GW is red everywhere, it confused me

[woeful obsidian]

It's in every realm red around the eruption time.

[spark lance]

Ooohh okay. Spooky

[spiral dawn]

pretty sure the rainbow pants are 95 candles

[stuck notch]

• spells I'm assuming?

[woeful obsidian]

I was forest it's nice with red

[spark lance]

You are almost blind in GW when everything is red

[spiral dawn]

the 95 candles is just the price of the pants. spells not included in that price. including spells im unsure but over 100 most likely

[woeful obsidian]

Yes, I complain it to feedback. You can't really see where you flying.

[stuck notch]

o have 117, hope that's enough
and any idea when the days actually start? :00

[lyric wagon]

Does someone know where's today fallen shard?

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that if you are struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback after asking here, as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live! Make sure to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well

[dreamy grail]

The crop fields at the very far side of ark

[woeful obsidian]

175 the rainbow cape, 95 the pants,

[lilac epoch]

Scarecrow field behind the Ark

[spiral dawn]

unfortunately no idea when it starts, later this month is all tgc has said

[proven kindle]

Is it days of love? Why did tgc change red sky color into pink?? I can’t imagine eden explosion in lovely romantic pink color?

[lyric wagon]

Thanks!

[stuck notch]

i think I'm only sticking with pants

[lilac epoch]

Anyone else nearly rage-quit at fire trial? I've already reported it in beta bugs to be sure but I think there's something seriously off with the energy meter and the drain, you can't even make it in between candles, you're being drained even while standing beside a candle lmao

[dreamy grail]

This is why we don't do trials

[proven kindle]

Also all 5 seasonal quests were so repetitive and so so so limited on lore telling, actually i can tell that it told nothing about lore, you can’t just put random sky creatures in an empty black room and call it a new season, oh come on tgc, you are more talented than this, imagine the things you did on season of prophecy, it was beautiful, but this season is a lost oppurtunity on a lore telling, you could have told us much much much more about lore of eden!

[dreamy grail]

We have one final quest next Friday remember, likely a new build on Monday or Tuesday

[spark lance]

Does anybody know logic behind the number of ACs obtained from shard quests? It seems to be different for different people.

[cursive tinsel]

I've generally getting 2-4 ACs when I complete creature quest since a couple of builds ago

It seems to be the same no matter how much or little you collect in a creature quest. Feels like it is just RNG between 2,3,4 AC

[spark lance]

Oh my God today's shard was absolutely awful. I got hit my a freaking red crystal meteor that one shot me instantly and I kept losing light over and over again because of the stupid crabs attacking me. This was so infuriating.

Don't tell me to send this to feedback, I sent this feedback nearly every week and TGC still won't do anything to remove this annoying damaged crawling feature

[lavish beacon]

What’s up with the pricing for the cosmetics? 27-35 candles for the first node?

[cursive onyx]

I believe it’s because there are fewer cosmetics than in previous seasons, so they adjust the candle cost so that we don’t finish the season too soon. There are also no emotes in the trees either.

[lavish beacon]

I see. But at the same time, the season seems shorter than usual. I’m left to wonder what this will translate to in live with so few SCs a day compared to in beta.

[cursive onyx]

I think simply longer waits in between unlocking items 😕

[lavish beacon]

That sucks. Already with performance I’ve had times where it’s taken me almost a week to get the next item on a tree, and that’s with having an AP and doing all my daily quests every single day. The level this is reaching with Shattering is worrying to me…

[cursive onyx]

I feel ya. It’s gonna feel like a real grind, for sure.

[late sonnet]

at least it's not an 85 SC node

[astral bolt]

95 for pants and 175 for cape?? Gotta start preparing now than ig

[spark lance]

Wasn't the price reduced to 90 for the pants ?

[lavish beacon]

Not to mention that the actual season quests are pretty repetitive. It’s unfortunate because the idea of freeing frozen memories from eden is cool, but it’s just not clear on what’s actually going on…? It’s just rooms full of static models of creatures. I wish there was a clearer story to be followed with each memory so that it actually feels like you’re accomplishing something the way it does as you clear up the wind paths in Flight, rebuild the ark in Enchantment, or help put on a show in Performance. This honestly feels like a bit of a step back as far as seasonal depth is concerned, which is sad considering how excited I was to see seasons expand beyond just little side areas in realms. I want to see the world change and grow as we clean up shards, not just see a single room with some creatures that means nothing and then move on doing it with seemingly nothing we do making a difference in what’s going on.

[late sonnet]

tbh I don't mind the way the quests are going, cuz probably it'll be answered in the final ones that have yet to be seen (so it's just gotta match up to the build up )
but the repetitive quests sure are draining

[lyric kite]

I just want the quests to actually work consistently first. It makes no sense how some people are able to complete them easily on the first try and others get stuck doing the shard events over and over and over again and still can't complete it

[maiden pond]

What if the quests were like this, guys?

[spark lance]

If they're going to keep the difficulty of the quests, then we better get something very rewarding from the last seasonal quest

[lavish beacon]

Yeah
Getting AC for it is nice and all, but it doesn’t feel like anything is really changing as we progress and I just wish this felt more… consequential to the world I guess? Nothing changes as we do it and no spirits or creatures respond to the shards dropping in their areas. It just feels like we’re existing in some kind of alternate dimension that doesn’t affect anything. It’s not rewarding to clean up the shards because it doesn’t seem like it was doing much harm to the beings of the Sky kingdom in the first place. It’s just a grind for currency that doesn’t feel connected to the world at all.

[chilly zenith]

i would think that you’d see a lot more comments about how intense the eden season is because it’s an eden season but 😦

[maiden pond]

It would make much more sense for the spirits to actually react to the event of shards if it's near them, they should at least do the emote to show a reaction, it seems as though according to your comment, the world feels lifeless and as if nothing is really happening.

I mean, staying true to it because everyone is already dead but if they at least reacted to what possibly killed them, then... it'd make more logical sense.

[lyric kite]

The most obvious example of that was when we had a shard event right outside of Belonging Grandma's tree and the wax meal event continued as if the apocalypse wasn't happening just a few feet away

[maiden pond]

Grandma doesn't even react to it either? They really need to just change spirit interactions and add special animations of spirits reacting to the shard events. Good idea, I'll submit feedback.

[spark lance]

And near the dreams guide

[lyric kite]

And yeah I get that the spirits are spirits and aren't actually on the same plane of existence and the current timeline I guess, but it's kind of funny. It also seems a bit weird that by completing the shard events we are unlocking memories from the past, but then why is Eden still exploding if that event happened a long time ago?

[spark lance]

Or the Dreams quest giver just standing there like 🧍‍♀️

[spark lance]

but imagine grandma doing and still serving meal. that would be funny

[maiden pond]

I mean, grandma has responsibilities too.

[vagrant fable]

This
Why is Eden blowing up now, what is even happening?
Questions that still go unanswered

[kindred fossil]

The King was feeling a little quirky

[vagrant fable]

He doing a little trolling

[exotic latch]

Tried to relive the first shard quest today to search for possible WL that we missed. When we completed and went to the void, that memory was the fifth node/quest - not the first. Anyone successfully relived a memory from an earlier quest?

[cursive onyx]

I don’t think it’s currently possible. I’ve tried a number of methods in order to relive. Nada 😓

[exotic latch]

Thanks. Ugh though

[proven kindle]

I was hoping to see 2 big wars that happened in sky in this season first one is war at wasteland’s battlefield area and second one is at the top of eden. And also i would like to see more info about why elders gathered together and killed prince which we saw on sanctuary cave mural for a short time and later they removed that mural, so far we have nothing and i am not hoping to see anything on last seasonal quest too sadly.

[kindred fossil]

I personally think the King was sealed rather than killed, that mural was nothing but a weird bug, I agree though, so far I have no idea what’s the story being told here. They’re frozen memories from Eden… of who? & what?

The Ark, way in the back

[opal breach]

I have a questionnn

[kindred fossil]

Bring a friend & charging prop, you’ll need it

[spark lance]

I wish the season was more goofy and silly than scary ahh like ohh no the crabs ! 😂 😭 look at em

Than noooo the crabs run for your lives hide the chibis!
I think its just me

[opal breach]

If we already did some of the memories without getting the winged light for those memories, what do we do✨

[lyric kite]

Right now you can't do anything. It seems like in a future build it will be possible to view the memories again, but right now it's not really possible

[kindred fossil]

Try following these steps by Ney: #beta-screenshots-videos message

If it doesn’t work otherwise there’s nothing else you can do, I wouldn’t recommend this until a future build

Edit: don’t follow the guide I’ve linked

[opal breach]

Oh! That’s a relief at least 🥺, I hope the new build has that feature!

Thank you both for your helppp

[marsh plinth]

SEASON OF NO LORE

[spark lance]

Dies from lack of lore

[kindred fossil]

Severely dehydrated from lack of lore

[proven kindle]

Got emotional damage from lack of lore

[kindred fossil]

Begging TGC for crumbs like a starved Victorian Child

[tidal nexus]

"Please, sir, may i have some lore?"

[pale junco]

Tgc: Best we can do is cave doodles and random statues <3

[quiet obsidian]

dont forget the very cool and emotional experience of crawling in the constant rock rain of eden!!! 🥺 <3333

[pale junco]

Well they said emotional but didn't say which so we can't complain

[mighty harness]

Where is the shard today in GW?

[gilded parrot]

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! You may ask here if you are struggling, but together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience Remember to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well!

[pale junco]

Forgotten ark
Tho is very painful

[kindred fossil]

Bring friends, charging props, thought & prayers along

[quiet obsidian]

if you have time to wait around its probably worth waiting for the crabs to migrate towards the ark

[kindred fossil]

Yes, let the illusion of the oasis guide them

[stark prawn]

Sooo I see that there's red fog on other realms beside Golden Wasteland, does that mean there are shards in other realms? O it's just the fog?

[quiet obsidian]

no, the effect is visible from the other realms but the shards only appear in the daily quest realm

[jolly bear]

Did the shatter in Golden Wasteland gone again ? Been going to Forgotten ark twice, shipwreck twice, Battlefield and every spot at Golden Wasteland including Abyss area as well

Cannot find the Shards there

[quiet obsidian]

they are meant to have hit in ark, near where the red light is found at the back of the area. Maybe try waiting until the next explosion? it should happen in around 20 minutes

[woeful geyser]

Interesting discovery. I’ve done shards three times today and got through the whole thing with other people. The seasonal event complete for them but not for me. Seems like each person has to get a certain number of those light crabs. This would suggest that doing it with a large group may not be best.

[mighty harness]

They are behind the ark- in the area just past that. I just completed it. Thank goodness there were 5 other people there - it was pretty rough!

[mighty harness]

It is taking like 10-12 minutes past the hour (and half hour) to actually begin. It’s located in the area past/behind the forgotten ark

[split comet]

only have 1 shard today?

[dreamy grail]

@eternal orchid, from what I got from asking mods a few months back, it's best to not ask for checking things even as a beta tester yourself not having specific items

• this is mainly so it doesn't encourage non beta players to try do the same basically
  (In response to seeing stuff in screenshots channel)

[bitter iris]

Where do we go to see a shard in gw today?

[trim ferry]

guys, who like the new season?

[quiet obsidian]

i feel it has potential but in its current state i don't particularly like it, it needs improvement pretty badly. Im just concerned that TGC are running out of time to make big changes and improvements and they'll end up releasing it in a state that isn't much better than what we have rn. Just gotta hope that things go well ig 😔

[rugged kayak]

please god delay this season

i've been working on a feedback essay for a few days now, i really hope it gets read and gets them thinking when i finally send it, and hopefully i can send it soon 🙏

[grave jetty]

Lots of potential, but severely unready. Needs a lot of work.

[kindred fossil]

Has its ups and downs, more downs for sure

[arctic valley]

That doesn't work 😭 I just tried and it brought me to the recent whale memory.

[opaque iris]

As a non beta player it seems buggy but cool concept
As a solo player in live I’m going to be terrified

[minor falcon]

I like shattering

[kindred fossil]

I’ll go ahead & edit that then, it doesn’t seem to be working for anyone I’ve suggested this to

[kindred fossil]

If Shattering has a million fans, I am one of them
If Shattering has 5 fans, I am one of them
If Shattering has 1 fan, that one is me
If Shattering has 0 fans, I’m no longer alive
If the world is against Shattering, I am against the entire world

[trim spade]

Wow Dark

[spark lance]

i only just realized, tgc said this season would be different from other seasons. i believe what they meant by that was "ok yea we out of ideas for emotes and cosmetics let's just give up and make a bad season"

[trim spade]

If Shattering has 7 billion fans, I'm not one of them

[blissful harbor]

I feel the same. I really love this season. I enjoy the darkness and the red fog in all the realms. And as a solo player, I will say that for the most part I end up merging and getting to burn the shard with other players. Since it's a timed event you're almost gauranteed to find someone else there

[quiet obsidian]

god, i seriously want to believe that isnt true but at the rate its going... 💀

[kindred fossil]

I’ve mentioned before that this is the year of the most experimental seasons & unfortunately it’s not always gonna work out as they’d hope it would, I don’t wanna knock down on them too hard lest they go back to playing it safe, either

[trim spade]

Yeah this looks very experimental, but man I wish they switched up the seasonal quests at least

[strong sentinel]

I love shattering’s concept and ideas but something is so wrong about it… too long pacing? I’m just confused and somewhat bored already

[kindred fossil]

Yes, that’s the main problem, story too

[naive solar]

Lack of variety is this season's main problem

[spark lance]

i mean don't get me wrong, i love some of the items like the ult manta cape and the tiny shoulder crab, but at this point it's obvious they don't care about this season and only made it to make people be like "wow eden season finally"

[trim spade]

The seasonal quests could be as simple as slap a Krill (dismiss emote), touch a whale, ride a manta, and recharge from a jelly

[quiet obsidian]

theres the lack of variation, lack of story and (clear and easy-ish to work out) addition to lore, and lack of emotes and a proper area and i see those as like the main problems

[chilly zenith]

man i dont know how they missed the opportunity to add pieces of lore to this season

[quiet obsidian]

touch a whale sounds like the sky equivalent to go touch grass

[grave jetty]

I'd even take going to various pre-PNR locations in Eden (or maybe other Realms) to see possible memories of the process that led up to the Shattering.

[strong sentinel]

We definitely need to touch a whale then

[chilly zenith]

im going to venture out to the sea

[trim spade]

lmao they should include seasonal quests that are irl like jog 5 miles in a week 😆

[naive solar]

the lack of lore complaints are so funny to me

anyways, aside from that the lack of clear direction, lack of communication is driving this season downhill, not to mention just how incredibly confusing the season is

[kindred fossil]

Literally crying everyday about the potential lore that could’ve been introduced

[tranquil folio]

there is a wl in the whale's mouth on the left (your left) did anyone else found any wl in previous memories?

[quiet obsidian]

theres one in the manta memory and one in the crabs memory iirc

[hasty vessel]

This season had the potential to be sky best one yet but turned out to be the worst in terms of gameplay and story (objective truth tbh). How tgc managed to miss the mark on both is what’s bothering me the most

[trim spade]

wow I missed those

[naive solar]

You expect too much, here's a slideshow of Sky animals in a depressing atmosphere

[bitter iris]

So much potential, like abyss

[tranquil folio]

lmao I missed them all then. can you somehow go back to previous memories?

[quiet obsidian]

a ton of us did 💀 we cant even go back and grab them yet

[trim spade]

I think this season is "new gameplay" experiment, a test, not really a season. They added cosmetics to make us happy. It's not a real season like usual based on lore etc.

[kindred fossil]

You’re right, let’s cut to the chase, dies of starvation

[naive solar]

I wanna try this again,

What are your main concerns for Shattering?

[bitter iris]

Luckily, this season isn't as glitchy as season of performance on Live.

[haughty pine]

I guess the question is: are we dismissing this too soon as a wasted opportunity? The part of me that's stubbornly optimistic is holding out for new changes and improvements. The season hasn't even been announced yet in Live — they still have time to change things.

[trim spade]

angry krebs that are a bit too angry and too many (traumatized after today's shard burning)

[naive solar]

We're on the same page. I am finding many of the complaints for Shattering unreasonable when there's so many other complaints that should be listened to.

[kindred fossil]

I really want to believe, I really want to

[hasty vessel]

Lack of structure, story(lore), gameplay. Still feeds into the whole monotonous cycle of “go here” “do that”

[eternal orchid]

making eden even harder than it already is by implementing the crawling feature (especially for moths)

[trim spade]

they don't have enough time to change global things like quests, new areas, etc. They may update cosmetics and shard colors and kreb numbers but that's it

[naive solar]

@trim spade @hasty vessel thank you

@eternal orchid thank you

[dreamy grail]

Oh hey boatgirl, WOAHHHHH NICE NEW PFP

[strong sentinel]

The missed lore opportunity is like…. A big problem.
We see creatures. Ok. Now what?
Still holding hope they are doing all these fixes just to make sure these problems won’t happen when they drop a bomb of big reworked update with much more interesting and better reworked ideas

[kindred fossil]

I honestly don’t care about the lack of emotes/spirits (my emote list is long as is), frozen memories could’ve introduced a new way of storytelling, but… I’m not sure

[hasty vessel]

Ima have to disagree on this one, i think it’s too late they’ll just fine tune what they currently have and push it out to live, imo they’ve exceeded the time to make the key changes we are asking for, they don’t have enough time to go back to the drawing board

[dreamy grail]

Like snapshots in time of eden maybe, like stills of a spirit memory/cutscene in a way

[naive solar]

Would a lengthy message be too disruptive for this chat?
Splendid

[quiet obsidian]

the memories literally tell us nothing that i can work out, theyre legit just "heres a creature to look at for a couple of minutes before you get bored and leave forever aside from WL runs"

[trim spade]

I think there is a proper eden season coming that's full of lore. Shattering is just to test the new game mechanic like burning plants and earning wax

[strong sentinel]

I’m absolutely not bothered by lack of new emotions. Just the season itself somehow disappointing

[dreamy grail]

Take your time and make sure to re read it incase it may get beaned by the filter

A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one

[dreamy grail]

That's true! We still have change to see change, for all we know we may see new extra UGs or new features put in place that players may really like. Let alone s mystery final quest that better be good

Ngl the whale memory took me by surprise I was like WOAHHHHHHHH OKAY THAT ID SICKKKKKK

[spark lance]

hi guys where in gw is the shard? ark? tyy

[haughty pine]

I've seen notable changes made before on semi-short notice. Sometimes TGC can work magic on making changes... The question is, do we need to go back to the drawing board entirely, or do we need to swap out some not-working things with some other things? Going back to the drawing board is impossible. Making what we already have more workable... That remains to be seen.

Given a couple occurrences with past seasons... Maybe I'm overly-optimistic, and I very well could be proven wrong and if so, I give you permission to all say "I told you so" then, but I'm gonna say that until the release-date for this season is announced, we've got hope to see some good changes.

[dreamy grail]

By Scarecrow's crop fields to be extremely specific

[strong sentinel]

Poor scarecrow they’ll never see their crops growing

[hasty vessel]

We’ve always known the premise of each season even from their first iterations when arriving to beta, this is the first season we’ve had that has felt completely jumbled and disjointed. I’m glad that you’re keeping optimistic because I certainly am not getting my hopes up just to be disappointed again. Tgcs biggest flop was comparing this season to the likes of prophecy, it’s just been going down hill

[hollow compass]

Which notable changes do you remember? I’m wracking my brain trying to think of something substantial and last minute, but I’m also terrible at details sometimes.

[grave jetty]

There's no indication of why this is even a Season. Yes, Eden's erupting, but Eden's always erupting (at least, that will be new players' experience once these mechanics are made permanent, and I assume that existing players are intended to treat the setting as though this were the case for them too). What, then, is this Season for? It doesn't look like we are going to stop the eruptions, but that's okay; there are other possibilities. We also don't learn why the eruptions are happening, even in a vague sense that could have multiple interpretations. We see some cool sculptures of animals, but there's no apparent order to them other than size, and they don't seem to be reacting to the eruptions, so we don't get any new perspectives on them. It's literally just "Hey, go do this thing that you've been doing this whole time anyway". There is no narrative to fit it into the story.

[haughty pine]

I'd be interested to hear your feedback on this: because I know exactly what you mean, and I would agree entirely, but every time I try to think of "okay what might fix this problem" my brain gets stuck on "isn't everything in life just a series of 'go here, do this, go here, do that' tasks?" What do you think could make these various tasks more exciting?

[haughty pine]

The one that comes to mind off the top of my head are all the times that beta has stated "this is substantially too difficult, please lower the difficulty," such as Sanctuary spirit quests, Prophecy trials, that one time they tried to slow down the speed in Eden but got told it was not working so they changed it back, a whole bunch of Assembly and TLP changes... I don't know. I'm trying to think of specific examples and I know they're there in my head, but my brain is not working atm.

[haughty pine]

My hypothesis is that we're going to find out a lot about Shattering in the season after Shattering... But even then, I don't know if that's a great plan. But it's what I suspect, anyways.

[naive solar]

From the 0.18.0 blog post:

Season of the Little Prince, slant heavily towards direct narrative while others, like Season of Prophecy, are more about gameplay, with story being more ambient in the environment. The next Season leans more in the direction of Season of Prophecy. We’re introducing a brand new world element that we feel will inject a lot of life into the day-to-day Sky experience, and offer more meaningful opportunities for players to come together to support each other. This will be a permanent addition that will allow us to do some cool event-based storytelling.

I believe that the parts I've highlighted are amplifying the confusion that the testers are experiencing. Personally I am going back and forth while thinking about what those parts are supposed to mean. I find myself asking a lot of questions. What is "the brand new world element"? Are they saying that they've implemented new technology into Sky that can significantly modify the environment in real time, resulting in these shard events? If so, is Shattering a demonstration of this new tech? When Shattering ends, will the shard and related events be put on the shelf until it eventually becomes a Days of Shattering event?

What do they mean by "event-based storytelling"? Are they referring to Days of X events? If this is a new tech of sorts like I've mentioned, do they intend on using this tech for the events in the future?

Without the answers to some or all of these questions, I cannot provide accurate feedback. Right now, I can only say that this season feels like it's an event but with extra steps, and that's mainly due to the lack of variety in these quests.

Gameplay oriented season doesn't mean it shouldn't have a proper story, because if I wanted to make a gameplay oriented season, I'd focus on making the players an active part of the story that I was trying to tell. Doing the same thing 6 times isn't a good story, it isn't engaging gameplay either. I don't want to put my brain on autopilot and just burn darkness plants until it's done. It's not worth my time.

As much as I disagree with the complaints related to Prophecy, at least in that season I didn't put my brain on autopilot due to how trials were designed. But Shattering is completely different, and different doesn't always mean it's gonna be better.

[elder musk]

Just to chip in to this conversation: I wrote in my feedback that I’d appreciate learning new abilities more than acquiring cosmetics. Backing on this, perhaps if we were to use these new abilities to solve puzzles. Or even use musical instruments, e.g. to play a specific song to progress the story or pacify evil creatures. We badly need new game mechanics and story.

[haughty pine]

Wow, I could see that as a cool option.

[hushed arch]

peeks in. has tgc staff explained at all why this season is the way it is yet

[quaint jungle]

The "new game mechanics"is just lighting up stuff. It isint brand new in terms of gameplay or makes it fun for 2.5 months worth of this season

[hushed arch]

i know this is basically the "tgc is incapable of doing anything right with this season" chat rn but i do have some hope things might change.. even if it doesn't seem like it rn. i would only begin seriously worrying if more teasers for shattering drop and nothing has changed

[haughty pine]

Going off of what ennA said and combining it with Dermelles' idea: it would be an interesting idea if we had to learn abilities, skills, etc., in order to burn certain types of dark plants. As each quest is unlocked, new types of dark plants or shards could appear that would require a new skill to burn them. That would be a fascinating idea. As things move on, the types of shards that appear could become shuffled.

[grave jetty]

Something needs to change, or be shown as having changed in the past. Scenes leading up to why the eruptions began, even if vague and/or open to interpretation, would be one way to do that. Alternatively, if we got the creatures' perspective on the coming of the Storm, that could be a way to show change without giving an answer as to why the change happened. Alternatively, if revealing why the eruptions happened is too much, you could frame the eruptions as the cause of change, rather than the change itself: show us the immediate aftermath of the Shattering, and how both the Ancestors and the creatures tried to adapt to it (perhaps unsuccessfully, but trying to change is still a kind of change).

But as things stand, this season doesn't really represent any kind of change, and without that, there's no real indication as to why this is a whole Season. A single eruption, when there were no eruptions before, could do just as well.

[kindred fossil]

I appreciate you all text wall writers 🫶 (I am reading)

[hollow compass]

Good points! But somehow I feel that those were changes done to already existing things, rather than huge new updates. I don’t know, I’m also tired right now. 💤

[elder musk]

Imagine, if e.g. 4 players co-played a song or danced or used a new group ability while in Eden which stopped the rock rain, giving time to the other 4 players in the server to dispose of their winged lights. Now that would be a cool new game element.

[naive solar]

I don't think there are new mechanics, just that they're arranging already existing gameplay in a way to make it varied during day-to-day Sky gameplay. A new mechanic would be something like diving, for example. In Shattering we are only burning dark plants, avoiding crabs, and collecting light fragments. Dark plants exist in Isle, crabs exist in Forest, and we collect light fragments for candles in Valley.

[hushed arch]

i think it would be very very bad if the season dropped without major changes because there's people threatening to quit sky and not buy APs/IAPs because of the current state of shattering

if that doesn't worry tgc i don't know what will

[barren cliff]

This season just seems a little lazy tbh

[hollow compass]

Some players have already left.

[hushed arch]

it would be comedy gold if the very last quest just so happened to have everything we wanted this season

[storm vessel]

May be they are preparing for the collaboration season after

[grave jetty]

But realistically, how many? Probably not more than a few dozen. Sky isn't as manipulative as a typical gacha game, but it is addictive, and that's going to keep most people playing even if they're angry. TGC likely isn't worried about a few dozen or even a few hundred ragequits.

[storm vessel]

The main sky website does say that there is a collaboration coming

[hushed arch]

wait, i just realized something.

#lore-discussion-spoilers message

Two years is more about how far we have content planned in advance. - Ktjn, 2020, in lorechat

perhaps the state of this season is because they ran out of plans..? but i feel like they would have made more plans for past that cutoff by now so i don't think this is at all related. but hm

[barren cliff]

I’ve played every season since rhythm, and I think most players like myself just expected this season in particular to be more interesting considering it’s theme

[lyric kite]

If that ends up being the case, then my argument would be why do they need to put all of their eggs in one basket (quest) so to speak instead of spreading some of the story throughout the quests over a longer period of time to keep players engaged during the season? There isn't as much of an emotional impact when people are confused for 2 months and then suddenly finish the final quest where things are explained, there's no buildup of people creating theories as to what we might discover each week. We just have it randomly revealed all at once and the reaction is something more like "huh, that's interesting I guess" than "oh wow XYZ theory was right after all!" or "omg I wasn't expecting that!" it's not as exciting without the buildup of anticipation

[hushed arch]

also i don't think the upcoming collab season has anything to do with it because assembly was very swag and it was also the season right before a collab season

[timid bough]

its virtually impossible to pin out what tgc is doing internally

[kindred fossil]

Sleeping rn

[dreamy grail]

Like what we'd said yesterday how after the Collab season we'll probably see the sequel and have the lore dump thrown on our heads?

[hushed arch]

i wish they would at least say something (other than "wait and find out") tbh

[timid bough]

i believe in the 0.18.5 that will pierce the heavens

[digital cargo]

:0

[thick ibex]

we don't have information that TGC has to themselves, all we know is what comes in beta, so we're all the same as live players: we won't know till TGC says

[naive solar]

Previous seasonal format and their quests worked very well, and they should not have deviated from this path. The quests could have stayed as they were, and completing a certain season quest could've unlocked the shard events to at least fill the emptiness between one quest and the other.

[dreamy grail]

With how things have gone, all we want to hear is "hey guys the season finale will be a challenge that nobody would have suspected, team up and get ready for the challenge of the season, we apologise for the monotonous nature of the previous 5 quests" or something similar

[kindred fossil]

It is difficult to communicate upcoming plans lest they get scrapped or drastically changed (for example, when the Summer Lights lantern was announced to live promising a feature that was still in testing, it later was scrapped due to technical issues), as much as I wish they’d be more communicative

[carmine thorn]

Nah, we'll get "here's a bigger shard, more darkness to burn and now krill with red rocks on them! Have fun, testers. "

[haughty pine]

One of the things I noticed regarding games like Animal Crossing New Horizons vs. it's previous entries is that games like New Leaf gave me more options for what could happen than New Horizons, which gave me a lot of content with only one option. This really got me thinking about video games and what makes a video game enjoyable:

The potential for a thing to be one thing or another.

The Performance area was brilliant in that regard. I go back there all the time because there are so many ways for me to interact with it. I race to any new meditation spot I haven't seen before, or at least in a long time. I love props that let me do fun things, or exploring.

This is pretty linear. It's new content, but once I've done it once or twice, I've... Generally got the gist. If I knew that any shard event I showed up to had the possibility to either be one of, say, any 3 varieties of shard events, I would be a lot more excited. If they put the basic shard event, and then made 1-3 variations on it with a random chance of one of those shard events appearing, I would be more likely to check in each day because it would feel newer and more exciting.

[kindred fossil]

Difficult isn’t the word, tricky, maybe

[timid bough]

i honestly thought that was a plan to introduce "upgrades" to the normal candle

[haughty pine]

which is one of the two reasons why beta spoilers suck and people shouldn't give beta spoilers: it confuses people who hear of beta content that doesn't make it to Live

[grave jetty]

It's possible, but that would indicate a severe pacing problem. Live is going to have to slog through the first five quests for a lot longer than we will, and we're already chomping at the bit for more content.

[shadow stratus]

What feature was that

[dreamy grail]

Agreed, and when people had beta spoilers of Performance and Abyss as pfps and stuff especially during TS reveals
Me who'd seen Nastymold vids before hand, but I felt really sorry for everyone who was spoiled

[zenith mist]

i certainly think the shard events having different variations would be interesting, but i still think theyd get boring and repetitive very quickly since they happen so often. ik they wont happen as much as they do in beta, im assuming theyll be happening every couple of hours? idk, i think if ppl can get bored of eden after doing it every week, theyll get bored of shards even faster doing it every day. i wish we just got normal quests instead of.. basically a new geyser, but more dangerous

[shadow stratus]

Kakdamba used the performance last quest most important scene as a thumbnail 💀

[kindred fossil]

Lantern could light candles when out, it was finicky since it was rather inconvenient & added unnecessary steps, the technical limitations wall they’ve ran into is that it couldn’t burn dark plants

I’m actually genuinely glad that was scrapped…

[naive solar]

I wish we could block channels on YouTube

[zenith mist]

no matter how much i try to make them stop recommending sky baby children they never go away 💀 everyones favorite hacking channel

[shadow stratus]

They promised that? could swear it was an bug and not a feature at the first place
Glad it was scrapped then, locking a helpful tool under 20$ would be annoying

[dreamy grail]

and they never stop hacking :D

I literally commented "nice hacked krill cape" and they hearted the comment

[quiet obsidian]

nah not sky baby chidren please

[kindred fossil]

It was announced in a blog post in #news I’m certain

[hollow compass]

I remember Wes being here in chat saying this was actually the case: there was an element of randomness to the difficulty of the quests. We’ve also come to see that there seem to be two different types of events giving either ac or white candles.

[kindred fossil]

Aha, this one: #news message

Within the blogpost there was a link leading to a now outdated video of the feature

[pallid badger]

I’ve been royally slacking and not paying attention. I don’t understand the new season. Maybe I’m tired and frustrated. I did the burning plants and creature quest, then meditated, got taken to an empty dark room with just the questgiver and a home shrine. So how do I do the fragment thing? I went back to wasteland to see what I missed and it was gone. 😭

[naive solar]

so uhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[kindred fossil]

It keeps bugging out, you might have to do several the quest several times for it to work

[quaint jungle]

Yea, im just quoting it. Since its not even new gameplay at all, its just existing gameplay but put into seasonal areas.

Tgc states there ""new gameplay"" where in reality, there isint. You only get a debuff of crawling

[lyric kite]

The quests are kind of bugged right now, for some people they seem to be working fine with only one or two tries but for others they don't complete for whatever reason. I've been stuck on the 4th quest for like a week or so because it won't complete

[quiet obsidian]

yeah, its buggy like that. the shard quests dont always work yet

[pallid badger]

Oh! So that was the quest? I did what I was meant to? It’s game bugged not me bugged?

[kindred fossil]

Quest 5 auto completed without even activating the quest 💀

[lyric kite]

At least we're all assuming it's a bug. To complete the quests you should just need to complete one of the more difficult shard events with the crabs that give AC and then prompt you to meditate to view the memory. But I'm not 100% sure because I don't think TGC has really said much about it at this point. If there is some unknown requirement then I don't think anyone has figured out what it is

[dreamy grail]

Oh nooo
Are the phrogs not letting you see the krills and whales?

[naive solar]

That is correct, if it worked as intended you would've been taken into a room that shows an ancient memory fragment from the Eye of Eden that is not an empty gray space

[pallid badger]

thank you. Honestly I thought I was just derp and missed something

[severe trout]

I cant find the shard anywhere

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[quiet obsidian]

maybe wait for the next explosion? it should hit in about 25 minutes

[kindred fossil]

I mean, have you checked the back of the Ark?

[naive solar]

I'm glad it was clear enough, because explaining this season when you're not a native English speaker, and are incredibly confused as to what is happening is extremely difficult

[severe trout]

You can see my image in the beta screenshot channel there was no shards

[kindred fossil]

Huh weird, tried reloading, such & such? I guess there’s only next eruption

[severe trout]

I think I’ll wait until the next and log in

[fallow crypt]

I try since the new season to do the first quest and i can't pls someone help me

[hollow compass]

If I’m already present in an area that is supposed to have shards, they don’t appear until I go to Home and back.

[fallow crypt]

The shards don't appear most times for me aswell

[hollow compass]

They should be behind you, if you’ve flown past the ark itself to the field where spirit is.

[severe trout]

O thank you

[plain falcon]

I couldn't find today's shard. I looked everywhere. #help 😢

[gilded parrot]

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give peas a chance, brah

[zenith mist]

i worry for the state of qnh after shattering starts

[kindred fossil]

I’m already imagining the doomed QnH timeline

[grave jetty]

QnH?

[quaint grove]

#questions-and-help

[naive solar]

megabird help qnh

[dawn crown]

Where are the shards today ?

[gilded parrot]

Robots have feelings too!

[maiden pond]

@haughty pine in response to what you said about an interesting idea of learning skills and abilities. Here is my idea of quests revised.

Sorry for ping too, I saw your post and couldn't help but mention this.

[gusty cradle]

where are the stones today

[trim spade]

Yo what’s with the crab rave in the ark today 💀💀💀💀

[eager harness]

Crab rave. 😂

[dreamy grail]

[quiet obsidian]

the crabs decided to leave the shards because the quest got too repetitive and boring for even them 💀 they decided to become part of enchantment instead

[floral sage]

When’s the next shard explosion? I can never seem to get the timing right

[eager harness]

Isn’t it every 30 mins?

[dawn crown]

Shards fall every half hour I’m pretty sure

[plain falcon]

I found the shard, after burning everything and collecting the pieces, i went to a gray space and got nothing... I'm confusion

[floral sage]

This quest seems to be super buggy along with most of the season lol idk why

[dawn crown]

where are the shards falling tho

[plain falcon]

Also the crabs need to chill 🤣😵😵😵

[quiet obsidian]

i literally went afk just a little bit away from the shard and when i came back some of the crabs had got as far as the huge sand dune in front of the ark 💀 they really want to escape season of shattering huh

[floral sage]

Does anyone know the prices for the ultimate gifts? Is it 2 hearts apiece now?

[eager harness]

I’m convinced our feedback isn’t being listened to.

[quiet obsidian]

probably two hearts each yeah, but we havent seen the ults in the tree since before the spirit orbs got split so we dont really know for sure

[floral sage]

Can I ask why you say that?

[eager harness]

Because the season just keeps getting worse, no matter how much feedback is left.

[floral sage]

oh like in what way? I haven’t noticed much I’m just interested in what the community thinks

[plain falcon]

I agree. Kinda funny kinda sad

[eager harness]

There is going to be a lot of people quitting the game if it doesn’t change. Possibly myself included.

[quiet obsidian]

im personally trying to wait and see if the next update resolves anything brought up in feedback before i fully believe tgc arent listening, but i cant help but agree rn

[floral sage]

I’m happy there’s an eden season, but I don’t like the sharp difficulty spike that’s been included, and the buggyness of it all isn’t helping

[quiet obsidian]

and dont forget how awfully repetitive the quests are, literally no variation at all. id be happy that theres an eden season if it was actually good.

[narrow current]

The most awaited season is threading on shards of glass. Its quite sad to see.

[eager harness]

It’s really sad and I hope this next update resolves some issues, but the crystal crabs need a major adjustment. I was barely touched the other day by one and thrown up against a shard and instantly went bald with 2 wl leaving me. The crawling thing is just not okay and in these few years of playing, I have never lost lights to crabs or krill. It’s just aggravating and not a good move.

[floral sage]

I hope the final quest is actually good and doesn’t involve doing an involuntary eden run. But knowing tgc it’s probably going to be an eden run.

[eager harness]

Agreed.

[quiet obsidian]

it seriously is, theyre giving us insanely repetitive quests while also making them way too frustrating and difficult. Sky isnt a game about anger or frustration, and yet here TGC are, providing us with exactly that

[eager harness]

They really are allowing the anger and frustration. I’ve never cussed at the game until the other day and I never thought I would.

[strong sentinel]

Sometimes something goes wrong and I'm just like
"Bruh" and skip these shards.
Never had that feeling with prothecy tho. It was hard but fun. And I was a moth at the time. Took me 3 days to figure out the trials

[dawn crown]

Yeah completing the trials in prophecy felt rewarding and fun, especially with other ppl

[strong sentinel]

Now I just go for trials to really have fun. But with shattering I only have awe for visuals but don't have any positive feelings for events

[ornate tundra]

This season might be the first season everyone collectively hates if they don’t fix the issues 😬

[wary star]

tbh shattering should be scrapped, keep the cosmetics but the whole idea? no

[strong sentinel]

Actually... I might even say I don't feel anything at all when doing shards. Eden is just irritating when you get to endless rock rain.

[eager harness]

I completely agree!! And I want nothing to do with the shards. I don’t even want to do the quests or daily tasks involving the shards.

[stuck condor]

i feel like the idea’s still really cool, it’s just incomplete. The idea of a season revolving around eden is really cool, but there just isn’t much past that right now. We just need something more than just burning plants. An actual plotline. Just something, anything

[wary star]

if we keep the shards there should be atmost one of them as a quest/ for daily quests

[kindred fossil]

Fingers crossed for next week builds folks 💀🤞

[glass spoke]

as a huge lore fan i completely agree. i've tried to make it better by theorizing the crap out of it but it's just 😭 shards

[stuck condor]

like there’s so much that could be done here, and instead they just give us statues of light and dark creatures in a void like ??????

[wary star]

tgc: guys look we're doing something new!!

also tgc: fails horribly

[glass spoke]

i do not underestimate tgc but- what can they possibly do to make this better? we have one more quest left and i doubt that they could make the whole thing deep and all with that

[stuck condor]

god tgc please don’t botch this by going down this path this season looks so cool as a concept

[wary star]

imo if they're sticking with this we need to be able to see the first skychild (aka Savior)/eden prince atleast once

[glass spoke]

eden king pspspspspsppspsps

[sterile trail]

It’s because they don’t want to stress people out since it’s supposed to be a relaxing and easy game

[wary star]

i call them savior because they saved the sky kingdom aka the spirits, the elders, etc

[stuck condor]

watch the last shard just show a reused model of the statues in gw and nothing else 💀

[quiet obsidian]

i’ve said it before, just making the last quest deep and such won’t be enough to redeem the season as a whole. Live folks will be waiting weeks with monotonous annoying gameplay before anything actually relevant happens. They’d have to update the rest of the quests too and give them a story basically, which would likely involve extending the gap between performance and shattering.

[versed steppe]

Okay guys, quick question, I have to get a new phone on monday....it will be linked to my Google account which is the account I use for my live and beta sky, and it's what I used to download both, I just want to make sure, I'll still be part of the beta program if I download it on that device right?

[glass spoke]

they are stressing me by making the season lame

[wary star]

:SkyScreamingAndCrying:

[narrow current]

Yeah i don't think i see success in that department... Imo tho

[stuck condor]

I really doubt it would happen but I’m hoping they just scrap all the current quests and just remake them

[versed steppe]

Ty!! ❤️

[sterile trail]

Same I feel your pain. But as someone here said last time, we don’t want to make people have a breakdown over sky or something along that line

[glass spoke]

i already had a breakdown after burning like three shards and the medi thing still didnt appear

[unreal geode]

I think the season will be good once the bugs are fixed... im just wondering how it will work for future players? I don't really want the crystals as a permanent addition, that would be annoying and a bit distruptive since the shard events are so often and happen everywhere... and how would the travelling spirits work? I'm very unclear on this.

[quiet obsidian]

yeah, i think everyone would be willing to wait a few weeks extra so tgc and scrap what they have currently and remake the quests into something interesting and less confusing.

[stuck condor]

seriously knowing that this is what we’re gonna have to deal with for 3 months has me

do not have a more appropriate emoji they disabled nitro emojis in this channel lol

[sterile trail]

I only break down if the game is completely unplayable. I don’t get upset over things easily because I’m pretty go with the flow and leave it up to the fate of the universe

[glass spoke]

the shard event is quite literally the season quest so what would the quests be if the event isn't permanent? also see pins

[eager harness]

This season is not relaxing at all and it’s only stress.

[sterile trail]

And people wonder why so many quit:

Main answer: SKY is Boring and repetitive

Other answer uncommon though: just lost interest

[glass spoke]

if they gave us lore instead of gameplay they would've satisfied us more
also the second answer can come from the first

[quiet obsidian]

having the shards fall twice per hour is just... hugely disruptive. My idea is that they make them appear once a week outside of the season, and if a daily quest required it they could also have the shard appear specifically for the quest. During the season i guess they could turn it down to like once per hour but even then it’s still a bit disruptive.

[sterile trail]

Yeah that would be nice, I’d like some lore after watching EVERY season from Gratitude to Shattering come and go 💀💀

I want some sort of element added that would be cool

[glass spoke]

i don't get the whole shard falling thing, like
why
who
what

[quiet obsidian]

FRRRR THO there’s no explanation???? it’s legit just haha eden go kabooooom

[eager harness]

I really just want this whole season scrapped and wait a little longer for a new one instead.

[sterile trail]

Hahah Eden goes BRRRRRRR- windows computer meltdown

[glass spoke]

eden didn't throw up for god knows how long and now suddenly it does?? FOR WHAT REASON 🗿

[unreal geode]

Even a cutscene showing a krill bonking into eden crystal and breaking it would make more sense than what we have now...

[quiet obsidian]

literally everyone would thank tgc for giving it an extra month or so in development, no one wants whatever this is rn

[sterile trail]

Eden is me after eating dairy tbh

Reply to @unreal geode what cutscenes?

[glass spoke]

you make me want to animate this god

[eager harness]

I don’t want this season at all, no matter how much development they give it. Nothing can save it.

[ornate tundra]

Especially that it’s literally an Eden season it should feel more polished and amazing ..not just see shards all the time

[glass spoke]

it's sad that most of us agrees

[quiet obsidian]

i think they could save it? but it would take a lot of time and work, more than they have tbh. It’s a shame because an eden season is such an exciting concept and they failed MISERABLY.

[kindred fossil]

This is the most discouraged I’ve seen beta being, we’ve been through so many unwarranted changes (honk radar nerf, AFK timer, etc…) 💀

I’m holding out (a bit of) hope until the live release

[unreal geode]

[digital pasture]

yes I agree! the shards coming to live scares me tbh! I mean I don't think I'd attempt doing the quests but I feel like, if tgc would have some more time to improve on things, the concept they're going for could pack out better! especially with eden and stuff <:o)

[stuck condor]

man this whole situation just sucks because there’s probably not enough time left to save this season anymore, and we’re just gonna end up having this really cool concept completely messed up and never have a season like this again

[eager harness]

If they keep this and it goes to live, I see so many people quitting, especially moths.

[spark lance]

i’m curious
if tgc was able to restart this season entirely, what do y’all think they should do differently that would make the season more fun and memorable?
oh wow lmao, i agree though that the season have more lore..

[glass spoke]

LORE
EDEN KING
NOT MURALS
STORY
MORE INTERACTING W STUFF

[quiet obsidian]

LOOOOREEEEE
cut back on the shards and give it an actual plot then make it add to game lore instead of eden vomiting rocks every half an hour

[drowsy island]

WHERES THE LORE SAUCE

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve after getting an answer here Remember to read all of #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too in case it's mentioned there!

[unreal geode]

They could put the eden social area to some use and just localise the shards there once the season ends

[eager harness]

Lore and a TRUE dark creature season.

[stuck condor]

add a lot more to the shard memory spaces. Maybe something similar to the trials, maybe something else. Just something

[rugged kayak]

shattering's gonna be dead on arrival at this rate.

and as far as the story stuff goes it's like. journey and flower are right there. base game sky is right there. they CAN do wordless storytelling but it just falls so flat here. what on earth happened. the memories show you nothing. and they can't just be like "the last quest will explain everything!!" because of how repetitive every single other quest is. idk, this season as it is now is still in its concept phase to me and no where close to being able to be released. i really hope they delay it.

[quiet obsidian]

if they leave all the storytelling to final quest they’ll already have lost like half the players because they got bored of the season half way through and quit

[spark lance]

Ayo my message got deleted fast because of the censoring. It didn't even have any bad words 😭
Anyways, skybot needs to read the room💀

[sterile trail]

But the main reason some people are against it is because “ITS TOO MUCH FOR PEOPLE, THEY WILL HAVE A BREAKDOWN AND START CRYING” “ThIs SuppOsed to Be A RelaXing Gam3.”

[rugged kayak]

i care about sky so much, it's one of my favorite games of all time and after nearly 3 years of playing basically every day i STILL have fun with it every time i play it, even as a solo player. i want it to be as good as it can be so seeing this, and also the gradual downfall sky has been having the past couple years, is genuinely so disheartening and downright depressing.

[digital pasture]

I think seeing glimpses of how sky used to be before everything went south.
like, I'm completely okay with them just reusing the assets of multiple maps to recreate how it is actually SUPPOSED to look. they don't have to be animated either. just keep the entire concept of what the shards are doing now but instead of vague manta and krill imagery, we get sceneries with how they used to look.
and then maybe, the very final quest could have a vague hint to the king. but honestly, at this point I'd be fully satisfied if this hint of the king was also a reused asset already present in the game

[eager harness]

This WAS my favorite mobile game until this season. I feel sad just saying that.

[sterile trail]

I really hope they change some bits about this season because it was so hyped up but we were so let down

[stuck condor]

sky is really starting to lose its magic. we’ve had ups and downs but this is genuinely the worst I’ve ever seen the game

[eager harness]

I don’t even care about the cosmetics at this point.

[sterile trail]

I love this game so much, I want people to talk about this game other then on the discord, I never see anyone talking about it, I just wish they changed the difficulty or SOMETHING to make it less boring for people to give them something to come back to and not be repetitive

[spark lance]

I just saw now that the text i copy pasted was replaced with ok sorry

I was talking with my friend on beta that this season was by far the one that had the most bugs
And most of them couldn't enjoy the time they played and now it feels like they're forced to do the quests instead of being something fun feels like a chore to then and the best way to make this season more fun it's to add something that make people curious like a secret lore so big it makes them want to play the next to discover

[rugged kayak]

i will say to be fair "losing the magic" could also be due to playing the game a lot. but other than that, yeah i absolutely agree still. it genuinely feels like TGC is becoming money hungry to the point where they'll release anything and call it good because they KNOW they'll get money out of it because of whales and what have you. they can say "we're putting passion in this" as much as they want, but it really doesn't feel like it and it sucks so much

[quiet obsidian]

it’s really sad, i remember how it used to be. It was a relaxing game, and it was always an enchanting experience. Now it’s just “oh what new overpriced iaps have we got in store today” or “hey look at this new season that we put literally no effort into which is actually a days of event disguised as eden season”

[marsh plinth]

So where's the lore?

• oh You don't know, but this season eh yes if the season explains it to you, it's just a matter of deducing it, look! Watch the cutscenes, it's symbolic! You can get enough lo-

🚪

[gilded parrot]

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! You may ask here if you are struggling, but together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience Remember to check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues as well!

[ornate tundra]

I rly hope they listen to us about the season bc if it hits live without much changes then it won’t be pretty Live players are so much more hateful and they’re verbal about it

[spark lance]

Skybot,please.

[sterile trail]

Yeah

MY SPAGHETTI AINT BOILING AAAAAAA

[quiet obsidian]

yeah look at these whales!!!! the lore implications are huge!!!! they’re big and uhhhh??? they have little fins!!! yes look at those little fins!!!!! so much lore here!!!!!!!

[eager harness]

The live players already tell beta players it’s all their fault. I can only imagine the comments.

I want a friendly krill!

[stuck condor]

Genchat’s gonna completely burn down by the second day of the season istg

[sterile trail]

I’m not sure if it’s supposed to be boiling where so many bubbles or no 😭😭

[zenith mist]

lbr when you think of the lore in sky, how much of it is actually in the game, and how much of it just exists in concept art |: i love sky and everything but sometimes i feel like i enjoy the concept art more than the actual game

[spark lance]

Wha...people do that? That's very scummy tbh. It's not like we can control everything that goes in beta. The final decision is up to the devs

[digital pasture]

nah man I'll protect y'all with my life. I've been popping in regularly in this chat and y'all have been voicing the same concerns since the season started!

[smoky trench]

KRILL RIDING WHEN?? KRILL FAST TRAVEL WHEN??

[rugged kayak]

this conversation has been had before so i'm sorry to beat a dead horse, but i genuinely don't think they'll ever change the difficulty too much seeing as this game is meant to be accessible to everyone

well i suppose they ARE trying wrt the new damage taking stuff but, from what i see that just seems to be more of an annoyance than anything to the majority of testers (not to mention what i've already said in the past regarding concerns about disabled and new players, and players who just aren't that good)

[marsh plinth]

Seriously now, everyone is sick of trying to research a silent story, which is typical of the indie game stereotype.
Please TGC give this a solution

[quiet obsidian]

tgc: hey look over here at this very cool memory with krill that’s right!!! krill you can touch!!! this is what you asked for!!!! we delivered!!!!!!! now pay us lots of money for useless iaps!!!!!!!

[spark lance]

Quick reminder that the devs are always watching so be mindful of your words they can hurt even if you want to voice your opinion doesn't mean your can offend others.
(Isn't like you guys are doing it but is good to remember)

[eager harness]

Yes!!!! I want to ride a krill! A REAL one, not a statue!

[stuck condor]

now that I think about it, there’s still that collab season that’s supposed to be later this year. It might be that shattering was just doomed from the start as a filler season

[rugged kayak]

TGC kinda spearheaded the wordless storytelling afaik, with journey and flower. like i said a bit earlier they CAN do it well, i know they can!! i don't know what's happening as of late and it's very sad.

[spark lance]

Imagine if a full server of skids could ride the krills on saddles. That would be hilarious lol

[zenith mist]

its been over 2 years, the story isnt just vague and up to interpretation, it flat out just isnt there. at this point saying its purposefully vague is just an excuse for them not to develop the story at all beyond a few murals

[marsh plinth]

Imagine that a season is set in a library
And you can't read the books

[spark lance]

We need more juicy lore, not suffering 😔

[eager harness]

That’s appreciated, really! It’s probably the Facebook group itself. It’s and OOB Facebook group. They are so hateful in there.

[granite spade]

Folks I need help :(
I went to the shard at ark and sat to do an activity but it didnt register as a complete seasonal task and I havent done a single seasonal quest because i dont know where the shard for the season for the day is 😭

[marsh plinth]

WHERE IS FERRYMAN TGC WHERE IS FERRYMAN

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here! Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!

[spark lance]

Give me lore or ima riot

[rugged kayak]

that's just facebook in general tbf i'm sorry you see so much hate towards beta players, though

[maiden pond]

But it isn't your guys's fault.

[quiet obsidian]

if they don’t do something important lorewise for the final quest i’m gonna go completely feral, if the whole tree is just burn the shard quests when it gets to live then the season is completely irredeemable

[spark lance]

Imagine burning a crystal tree

[digital pasture]

yeah people can be very blunt... but if I ever see that happening I'll immediately correct them. it's unfair you guys would get the blame for stuff! you guys have been giving solid feedback for so long, even regarding the gaps in sanctuary! if those bugs don't get looked into, that's not your fault!

[marsh plinth]

Imagine having a doomed rock as a guide

[spark lance]

Dunnu it's quite charming to me

live players blame on beta players? jeez

It's so funny seeing it bounce like a ball when I claim my dailies

[sterile trail]

Apparently, first time hearing that

[marsh plinth]

Sky fandom can be full of hate
Unfortunately

[copper hound]

if there’s such a big interest on the light/dark theme on this season I’d think it’d be rather cool to have two guides this season but yk

[eager harness]

They love to blame the bugs on us, saying we don’t do our jobs. Then when you try to explain anything to them, they blame you more and just say you’re arrogant. I wish that group would be shut down.

[zenith mist]

the shattering guide and having no spirits is kind of cool but.. they dont really do anything w it imo?? it feels like its different for the sake of being different from other seasons, it doesnt feel meaningful. like what is this thing why is it here. what are these memories. where am i. why am i just in a black room with statues in it and why should i accept this as a good excuse for a seasonal area. why did i pay for this ap

[spark lance]

Someone told me most banned players go to Facebook

[stuck condor]

yeah man I absolutely loved when the afk timer was implemented. I love just making the game more difficult for the live players 😈😈😈

[sterile trail]

WHY FACEBOOK OF ALL PLACES

[marsh plinth]

Light seasonal hearts
Dark seasonal hearts

[copper hound]

and if each ult is only one heart there could be 4 possible ults cough eden crown cough

[spark lance]

Isn't that Facebook group known for the huge amount of hackers posting there?
One of then even posted here then got quickly banned

[marsh plinth]

Facebook is a hate dump

[quiet obsidian]

i feel that the light vs dark theme in the cosmetics and area... doesn’t quite fit right with the shards? like the shards are more of a darkness thing so it feels a little imbalanced if yk what i mean although it could just be me, in any case this season’s cosmetics are quite cool aside from the fact there’s less than usual

[sterile trail]

I’m surprised it’s not Twitter they go too

[spark lance]

i have seen it explode with rage it’s kind of scary

I don't use Facebook since..2013

[sterile trail]

At this point they be creating spaces on MySpace or something 💀

[zenith mist]

honestly i was pretty disappointed when i saw the season had both dark and light stuff. i was really hoping for it to be completely focused on darkness 😔
also.. imo it sucks how theres several light capes and pants and stuff but dark doesnt

[spark lance]

Or raidcall

[marsh plinth]

read shared spaces

[copper hound]

ok but imagine tgc doesn’t fix how broken eden is and in the future performance moths are like “I was here before the horrible eden” to the shattering moths

[sterile trail]

Imagine if the last quest took place in Eden and there was some final boss or something

[hollow estuary]

i think tgc puts more lore in the trailers than in the actual game, remember the switch trailer?

[marsh plinth]

I don't see the need, in sky there are both light and dark creatures

[spark lance]

Gonna throw hands with the king

[zenith mist]

bc theres already a bunch of light stuff in the game. ppl were specifically asking for a darkness season

[sterile trail]

Omg imagine if we got to throw hands with the king and it put us in full moth attire💀💀💀

[quiet obsidian]

same tbh, eden doesn’t exactly involve light creatures very obviously if at all before orbit, but they decided to focus on light vs dark instead of eden itself.

[spark lance]

I still think most problems would be fixed with dark pants /j

[marsh plinth]

Like...?

[sterile trail]

And you had to light up some puzzle while the king is trying to put it out. It would have to be a full 8 person battle thou

[quiet obsidian]

like most cosmetics? the few that somewhat tie back to darkness are like mischief stuff other than that most cosmetics i can think of are light themed

[spark lance]

Butterfly cape
Jellyfish hair
Manta cape
Manta pants

[carmine thorn]

Jelly/manya jumpsuit, jelly hair, manta cape, 90% of flight cosmetics are inspired from birds (light creatures) the list goes on.

[zenith mist]

if the entire season and all the quests are super boring and then they do a lore dump for the final quest.. i feel like thatd somehow be even more annoying

[spark lance]

That would be nice but I doubt tgc will ever create a fighting mechanic in the game

[marsh plinth]

There is literally only one cape of a creature of light in fligjt 💀

[quiet obsidian]

i think at some point they’ve said they wouldn’t but i’m not too sure

[sterile trail]

Yeah 😔 oh it’s only a idea

[eager harness]

The jellyfish cape is so ugly imo.

[carmine thorn]

Feather hair accessories would be considered light themed cosmetics since birds are light creatures in Sky.

[marsh plinth]

Except the butterfly cape is orange and not yellow like the rest of the light seams

[zenith mist]

nice nitpicking and ignoring all the other cosmetics ppl have listed 💀

[eager harness]

Agreed.

[spark lance]

Tbh I love the jellyfish cape because I can cosplay as an egg

I do not think burning plants it that boring
But it's all the quests we have repetitive

We already burn plants everyday but the new content we received from the season is .....things we already do?

Perfomance we had to help spirits
Play music
Dance
Write stories
It was a great way to leave the routine and leaving the routine doing different things learning more about the world is what a season should give us.

[zenith mist]

i wish there was a way to have capes that dont open up while youre walking, the jellyfish cape only looks good closed imo (tho even then i dont rly like it)

[sterile trail]

I wish the season implemented the fire work staff and for those who don’t have it get a spell that lasts until the quest is complete, to scare away crabs

[marsh plinth]

the wings yes
Now you forget that days of mischief had cosmetics of the opposite theme

[spark lance]

Wow Halloween
Who could guess it would be spooky

[quiet obsidian]

if you count it up, from what’s listed here you have four light cosmetics PLUS the five (?) from the new season, and you’ve got like 3 extras if we count flight hairpins. 12 light cosmetics vs the dark horns from mischief, it and the 5(?) new darkness cosmetics making six.
correct me if i’m wrong i’m counting the new cosmetics off the top of my head

[zenith mist]

the mischief cosmetics are barely even darkness themed. the horns kind of look like krill horns but they have leaves on them. no i will not count the useless pumpkin

[spark lance]

I'd love to wear a full ghost costume for the next Days of Mischief 👻

[sterile trail]

I wish the mischief was an event meant for f2p people too

[spark lance]

Yes we're children of light so i guess we like ....light?
So i was hoping for a eden season having a lot of darkness...since it's full of darkness

[quiet obsidian]

the most darkness themed stuff in mischief is literally the horns and possibly the leaf cape if you’re REALLY stretching it

[granite spade]

Can someone help me pls 😭

[spark lance]

transparent ghost cape?

[glass spoke]

even easier: quit

[spark lance]

Pumpkin pants

[sterile trail]

I know a really cool game, and I think I’ll like it more if sky continues to be boring it’s called Quitting /j

[quiet obsidian]

omg we could have
chibis
running around
in cute little pumpkin pants
oh my god

[ashen tusk]

dark themed cosmetics without them having to be halloween themed would be nice

[spark lance]

Oo now I want to draw a few ideas for those!

[zenith mist]

here is a list of light cosmetics

• jelly pants
• jelly hair
• bird accessory
• the feather accessories r a bit of a stretch but idk
• turtle cape
• butterfly cape unless you want to be picky abt the color
• manta cape
• pygmy manta cape
• shoulder turtle
• all the new shattering stuff

[spark lance]

Now put the dark stuff outside the Halloween events

[quiet obsidian]

oh of course, the turtle stuff is light themed too taking the light cosmetics up to around 14

and separating darkness from halloween leaves us with a grand total of five dark cosmetics

[sterile trail]

What was that game called Ocean? By someone. Might try that out 💀💀💀

[spark lance]

Now we see who we trust

[zenith mist]

in comparison heres darkness stuff

• withered horns, i guess?
• sunbathers hat has a crab on it
• yeah thats all i got idk
• abyss masks somehow

[chrome cypress]

masks?

[ornate tundra]

there’s so much sky artists out there who have amazing designs for cosmetics. Tgc at some point should take inspo from them and maybe even pay them for having their designs in a season

[vagrant fable]

Abyss masks?

[marsh plinth]

I agree, and I also think that TGC should discard the capes of light (except the ultimate gift of light, that stays yes or yes )
Oh and the hairstyles, but the manta one is not so bad

[spark lance]

Ocean: Creatures of the Depths

[sterile trail]

Thanks 💀

[spark lance]

Abyss mask are more rustic than dark

[zenith mist]

idr whos hair has mantas on it but one of the abyss hairstyles has mantas if you wanna count that too

[ashen tusk]

They don't have to discard the light cosmetics, just add some more variety to the dark ones ???

Also I'd say abyss has dark theme cosmetics sure, but we really need some more for season of shattering because like if this isn't the time for darker cosmetics then idk what is

[spark lance]

Nah the players probably would burn them on a stake

[quiet obsidian]

yeah, literally just add more darkness stuff to balance things out a bit more. No need to scrap perfectly good ideas

[marsh plinth]

the theme of the season is unbalanced, because all the current events of the season are dark

[topaz rover]

make the season 20% better by adding darkness pants, easy fix /j

[spark lance]

I think they should mirror the tree like
Dark pants light pants
Dark mask ligh mask but it would make the whole season expensive lmao

[ornate tundra]

Darkness/krill pants, or a krill call at least something like that

[spark lance]

Well, the season is heavily inspired by Eden so it's meant to have a darker theme

[ashen tusk]

I don't really care that the season is dark, that's the nature of it, to me it lacks substance to back up the dark theme - that includes having basic quests and a lack of dark cosmetics

[zenith mist]

to compare, and also i just love listing idk, heres what we have for shattering
light:

• pants
• 3 capes
• 2 hairstyles
• 1 accessory
  dark:
• 2 capes
• 1 accessory
• 1 mask
• 1 hair
• useless horn

[spark lance]

Yeah yeah

Add dark pants and the eden crown

Season saved 👍

[maiden pond]

I wish there was more than one pair of pants, but I started in Abyss and that only had one pair of pants, so I have no room to talk, but I don't have hardly any pants.

[topaz rover]

honestly both would be amazing, alas...

[spark lance]

I need a krill call

[sterile trail]

Gonna try out Ocean in 4 days

[ashen tusk]

ngl they would be redeeming qualities, but if we don't get some substance for these quests and the lore then I'm gonna probably cry all season when it hits live

[marsh plinth]

I think it will be essential to have more dark cosmetics, but I think that will be for another season, this time we are looking for a balance between light and dark

[quiet obsidian]

this!!! looking at shattering events gives you the impression it’s a dark themed season but upon closer inspection there’s nothing really there to give it that aside from funny eden kaboom

[sterile trail]

I can only image what the collab season is gonna be 😔😔

[maiden pond]

Funni Eden go ka-boom.

[lyric kite]

To me it feels unclear what TGC even wants from this season because the creature cosmetics and memories seem to have nothing really to do with the darkness/Eden shard events

[zenith mist]

when would we even get darkness cosmetics again though? its not like wed get another eden/darkness themed season anytime after shattering

[quiet obsidian]

it better be a ghibli collab or something really good i can’t bear to go through a TLP 2.0

[spark lance]

Exactly
But there's no balance without pants

[sterile trail]

Will there even be a new seasonal area for the season after it ends or does it poof like the first four did

[ornate tundra]

Wasteland is the only hope we got if we were to get another “dark” themed season bc the other realms don’t rly cut it

[opaque iris]

Speaking of tlp it had dark coloured capes but not darkness so

[zenith mist]

yeah i felt that way too, and then we got abyss 😶

[marsh plinth]

and there is no balance with masks and shoulder items

[ornate tundra]

It’s kinda ironic lol wasteland was the go-to dark area in the game but it’s had so many light hearted seasons like enchantment and abyss

[spark lance]

dies from lack of pants

[zenith mist]

i love that one wasteland season where you help a bunch of people on a boat with random fetch quests

[quiet obsidian]

“light hearted”
gets eaten by the big krill

[topaz rover]

each season we got there so far though, has taken us to far remote places
we need to be taken to the city you can see to the left right after crashing down from the storm

i wanna go there, what is that city even??

[digital pasture]

The poll in the news channel didn't even have a pants option on the question "what do you look forward to the most with collecting"

[ornate tundra]

Ok despite that part-

[ashen tusk]

The season doesn't need light and dark balance it needs actual story telling and substance, don't get me wrong I like the light cosmetics a lot, I hope they don't scrap any, but they do nothing to add to the season itself, they're aesthetically pleasing as all cosmetics are, but it's not like they're even from spirits we can relate to, they're from balls of light ??? they are purely aesthetical and do nothing to redeem the fact that the season playthrough feels barren
on the other hand, the lack of dark cosmetics in comparison to the light side is just sad, and like I said earlier, if shattering is not the season to be adding dark themed cosmetics then what is

[spark lance]

||Tlp was more depressing rather than dark||
||sorrynotsorry ||

What if this season was royalty themed ?
Take it as a gran of salt

[ashen tusk]

then where are the royal pants for sir darkness huh

[opaque iris]

Heh that’s what you get when you adapt a story with an ||ambiguous child death||
I love tlp story I actually had reread it before the season

[zenith mist]

exactly, this was the perfect opportunity to add the darkness cosmetics ppl have been asking for, and we got even more light cosmetics. i like them, but i wish we couldve just gotten even more dark stuff. the selection of darkness cosmetics we did end up getting is kind of lame

[spark lance]

Im a pantless king

[marsh plinth]

do you realize that you suddenly stopped putting importance on the cosmetics you want to give attention for once to the lore which we are not talking about?
Edit your message and I'll read it right

[zenith mist]

wat
you heard them bubba. edit your message. Now. that is a command.

[ashen tusk]

stares
edits

[digital pasture]

Dude chill out, they're raising a valid concern

[sterile trail]

I had a stroke really that

[spark lance]

Who needs pants when you get much drip already

Yeah that's right! My drip it's too hard my pants flew away

[opaque iris]

Moth pants with the fanciest shmanciest hair cape and mask

[topaz rover]

who needs balancing when you looking hella fly

[marsh plinth]

that's not what i'm talking about
Don't bring the lore into this because we're not talking about that right now 🗿

[digital pasture]

Maybe that's how you know you're not a moth anymore, you just straight up become a fly

[spark lance]

If i had to design a insect season i would had those furry neck things and make it brown to match our brown capes

[zenith mist]

i dont think any of us actually know what youre talking about at this point

[sterile trail]

🗿

[lyric kite]

People can talk about more than one thing at a time, anyone is free to raise discussion points whenever they feel like it as long as it's appropriate for the server

[spark lance]

A fuzzy bee cape would be adorable

[digital pasture]

Chill out
does the abyss calm down emote

[zenith mist]

dont you dare bring up lore when talking about a season that everyone wants to have a ton of lore

[sterile trail]

Fortnite emote dances on you

[spark lance]

Can i send multiple feedback messages or its one for build?

[quiet obsidian]

they literally said that the cosmetics weren’t supporting the season as they should and made like one single sentence on how the addition of story and lore could help

[ashen tusk]

wear your pants, people

also, assuming I've inferred correctly, they meant that me acknowledging that the cosmetics are aesthetical because they do nothing to add to the season gameplay makes my argument invalid... somehow....

anyways, we can discuss multiple issues with the season at one time -

I was clearly pointing out that tgc have an opportunity to give us some great dark themed cosmetics whilst still keeping the light ones as is

AS WELL AS

the fact that adding new cosmetics at this time will do nothing to fix the actual issues with the substance of the season and how disappointing that is still

[lyric kite]

You can send as much feedback as you like

[maiden pond]

I feel like it would add a nice slice of immersion if the spirits actually reacted to the shards nearby. I submitted this to feedback already so don't think about it.

[sterile trail]

I wanna throw hands with a krill

[topaz rover]

make them go hu ho spaggetti-o, you know?

[spark lance]

They don't have hands

[ashen tusk]

that you know of

[zenith mist]

have light miner go oh darn not again

[ornate tundra]

Ngl I’ve always wanted to fight the crabs or krill bc it seems unfair that we can’t rly fight back when they attack us but that’s just me

[sterile trail]

Good
If they did we’d be dead and goners

Imagine this season had the already death sky kids come from eden and destroy the realms and the guide was a dead sky kid that didn’t get corrupted

[spark lance]

Yes! Some of them could either pace nervously or do the emote when the shards are too close to them

[topaz rover]

you can cook crabs tho, that's some kind of retribution at least xD

[dry current]

Where do the darkness shards fall in waste today?

[quiet obsidian]

sadly i doubt tgc would add fighting mechanics but that would be pretty cool

[digital pasture]

I always stomp on them with that tantrum emote
Edit: the crabs i mean

[sterile trail]

Tbh would love that
Where you had to deep honk to paralyze them or something

[maiden pond]

Let's take a vote beta testers. If I was a Dev and I asked you guys if we could rework and completely redo the whole season again in beta and extend the Performance or off season in Live, would you guys agree? Yes or no?

[zenith mist]

can we talk about how after shattering starts people are going to be constantly asking where the shards are every single day

[ornate tundra]

When I was a moth I thought the firework staff was a weapon against crabs….I was highly disappointed when it spammed fireworks and I still got knocked around

[spark lance]

Make the repellent give some kinda of damage to then when they attack hahahaha

[topaz rover]

okay but fr, wouldn't be sweet if performing the high candle would ward of crabs in a small area around you, allowing your friends to burn the darkness somewhat safely...?

[marsh plinth]

I remember well that there was a season concept on #wishlist-and-ideas-archived in GW with spirits surviving and facing dark creatures with dark cosmetics
I don't know what became of that concept but TGC most likely scrapped the idea

[ashen tusk]

question and help and season chat are gonna be so drained

[spark lance]

Absolutely. I'd prefer the season to be entirely polished rather than being unfinished

[sterile trail]

Plot twist this is it

[zenith mist]

days of nature....... 2!!

[spark lance]

Days of nature but with a spicier turn

[marsh plinth]

This season deserves to be delayed

[sterile trail]

Waiting for Sky 2

[maiden pond]

Yes, that doesn't bode well.

[zenith mist]

i hope the next update somehow fixes everything weve ever complained about and we all look like a bunch of fools for speaking this way about an unfinished season

[quiet obsidian]

bad season!!! bad!!! delays the season

[spark lance]

I can only imagine someone trying to bonk the crabs with the staff 💀

[ornate tundra]

The little prompts that show up should be more specific rather than just saying “it’s in wasteland” when there’s more than 1 area like-

[sterile trail]

Omg I want that, I try and bonk players with it

[lyric kite]

I know it's unfinished, but what concerns me is the pace at which things are being fixed (and in some cases not fixed). For example the shard events not even completing the seasonal quests at all for some people, if that happens in live it's going to be a mess with players asking why they can't complete the quest even though they did the thing

[carmine thorn]

Sadly, I think hoping for world peace would have a better chance at happening.

[ashen tusk]

I still maintain the fact that we're only in the 0.18.0 update and we have time for testing, but with each new build there doesn't seem to be any changes to the main issues of bland repetitive quests with no actual answers to what is happening and why - like sure they've been focusing on trying to refine the crawl feature and changing up eden for us and I'm grateful they've been taking our feedback actively for that, but like what about the essence of the season

[topaz rover]

there should be indicators next to the gates it has fallen to tbh, make it obvious and gives you a direction of where to go

[sterile trail]

Unseasoned season is what this is tbh

NO I LIKE CRAWLING AROUND ITS FUNNY

[quiet obsidian]

“refine the crawl feature” why cant they just
throw it away
god please just get rid of it

[ornate tundra]

That’s exactly what I tried to do the moment I got the staff they should make a squeaky hammer prop that allows us to bonk away things…..or players

[spark lance]

I say that the community have great ideas but half of the #wishlist-and-ideas-archived are people wanting guns

Why we should have guns?? We are children!

[ashen tusk]

I have an interesting relationship with the crawl feature in that so so so many memes but also so much frustration

[sterile trail]

I want a flamethrower

No guns, only flamethrower

[ashen tusk]

cackling cannoneer is as close as we'll get to that

[rugged kayak]

cowboy season with toy revolver when

[spark lance]

No gun! Guns only use its to harm creatures and we children of light only duty is to save spirits bringing then back to light no we don't need self defense just hide and avoid dangerous places

[sterile trail]

As a Texan I want that, I want a cowboy season

[eager harness]

Oooh! Yes!!!

[topaz rover]

We have telekinesis emote, that should do it
chucks crab away

[lyric kite]

That would be a cool way to give emotes another purpose, using them on creatures could have different effects (like we already have the butterfly summoning one)

[quiet obsidian]

we need more functional emotes, butterfly emote can attract butterflies so why can’t telekinesis throw crabs 💀

[hollow estuary]

uses the force on the crabs

[sterile trail]

Imagine using it on krill

[quiet obsidian]

it would probably take like a full server of people using telekinesis to throw the krill 😭😭😭

[spark lance]

Or just shoo the crabs with the emote

Krill are friends they're just moody

[topaz rover]

memes aside, i've been dying to see emote having an actual impact on the world aside from vault...

This could be huge.

[ashen tusk]

offers piggy to a krill

[maiden pond]

Didn't TGC say that this season will also be the model of next seasons in Sky?

[quiet obsidian]

did they??? oh no

[spark lance]

Buttlefly holding is the og

Oh gawd

[lyric kite]

Do you have a link for that? All I know they've said about future seasons is that the collab one is next after Shattering

[maiden pond]

I'm asking, I don't know exactly.

[topaz rover]

it's been my best friend as a solo player since day one

[hollow estuary]

imagine if using emotes in some places could uncover secrets.... like doors that dont have the emote prompt but would react to it being used anyway, maybe flowers could bloom in a place when you use some specific emote... good for photoshoots and stuff!

[spark lance]

I see a dark future from afar

But no dark pants tho

[ornate tundra]

Seeing how bad shattering is right now I hope they reconsider

[spark lance]

there’s a collab season coming up?

[maiden pond]

Let me look.

[ashen tusk]

potentially, I don't remember if they said it'll be the model for all seasons, but I imagine if it is successful it could give them more opportunities to have seasons that don't always rely on the format of new location, new spirits, etc.

however

the success seems a bit

beyond reach as it currently stands

[sterile trail]

Nice

[eager harness]

You’re kind of rude honestly.

[digital pasture]

I've seen nothing of the sorts on any blog posts, but I do know they said this season would bring a permanent change to sky and for live players to not be afraid of any beta related stuff they might stumble upon

[topaz rover]

did they really or did they mention "event based story telling" something something?
I honestly don't recall.

[queen wedge]

Are these crabs at ark on steroids or what cries in no light props

[spark lance]

Kinda lame to put aside cosmetics since its a huge part of gameplay
Tgc only source of income and players major driving force to keep playing but yeah lore is pretty good

[spark lance]

They're the reason why I bring the torch with me religiously

[zenith mist]

is the season after shattering the collab season? i know they said itd be the last season of the year, but i thought there could be another non collab season after shattering

[queen wedge]

I PUT A BONFIRE SPELL AND IT POOFED IMMEDIATELY LMAO

[rugged kayak]

i wish actually worked as a sort of "disguise" for crabs. do that around crabs and they won't attack you, lol. was so disappointed when it didn't do that

[quiet obsidian]

yeah pretty sure it’s the next season after shattering

[lyric kite]

Shattering will likely start in July at the earliest in live, and if it lasts around 3 months with a couple weeks in between, there wouldn't really be time to have another season before the year ends before the collab season, so yeah the collab should be next I think

[topaz rover]

Assembly guide being our main man selling that tiny light source

[spark lance]

Yeah, now they're just making out props enter a longer cooldown after being hit 😭 The same thing with krills

[ashen tusk]

All I remember is Ash saying they were working on the next season and it would also take place in Sky

[maiden pond]

I looked through this and it doesn't state this season will be the model of seasons after it: https://www.thatskygame.com/news/preparing-a-new-season-experience

[spark lance]

It's like receiving coal on your socks

[topaz rover]

yeah, i didn't remember that blog post stating this either from memory

[quiet obsidian]

i’m just worried that there’s always the possibility of the collab season being a complete flop, and i really don’t want to get burnout again but i fear it’s going to be like TLP in that respect

[spark lance]

We're just doomed at this point

I really hope this season is an underdog please be good please be good !

[eager harness]

You don’t need to edit anything.

[trim spade]

@/several people, there's always that one person 😆

[maiden pond]

I really feel bad for TGC if they're reading this. This doesn't bode well. They're trying, I believe in them, but they still have a lot of work to do.

[rugged kayak]

i'm just sad. sky means so much to me i want it to stop going on this decline and i want shattering to be good but. :'[

[ashen tusk]

I enjoyed the little prince season, it was when I joined sky and I'm not entirely sure why a lot of people dislike that season

@eager harness I didn't, I was joking with someone above me I don't know what that person was talking about in response to my message so I just clarified my point further and moved on

[zenith mist]

maybe they should save the collab season for another new platform release so they have more new players that r willing to buy their iaps despite having played for like a week

[digital pasture]

We can't judge the collab when we don't know who the collab is going to be with or what's going to happen. The collab might as well be just what we need after this season!

In the meantime, try to remain hopeful for the future, friends 🧡 give feedback and watch some happy videos 🧡