#beta-discussion
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I've heard of a few people crashing after seeing chat bubbles, so at least you're not alone
@spark lance Bugs are great. The quest will probably not register, so please repeat it until it does (the dark room will change if you succeed)
I don't know how to communicate with my friends
hahahaha
POV: your on your 10th try in doing second quest in sanc:
as a person who's stuck on the 1st quest, I gotta ask
is there anything different about 2 and 3 ones, or is it literally the same plant burning thing 
POV : you still haven't completed the first seasonal quest :
/lh
Wait you can redo the first quest?
i was only able to experience this update 2 days late i did not know you could still do F I R S T Q U E ST
That was me until an hour ago
wha? not that I know, I didn't finish it 
oooh with the new sanc shard you can complete it? 
i’ve done that like 5-6 times it’s not working for me
YES. After doing that two times, I got it!! The water saved me from falling too far in the ground
I do it 7 times, 2 days. Plants not change, just random bugs change
Bouta try again
thank you, i'm gonna try doing that then. 
what does storage have to do with the quest? i have around 50GB free on my phone
so all 3 quests are identical, am I reading this right? 
Yeah I'm unable to do that
"receive one more shard"
i wonder whats next quest then
PLEASE do the one in Sanc today, I think its the easiest one to repeat in case it doesn't succeed
Yes. Same proccess until now. Burn shard, mediate, catch light. But some realms is easier than the other
so the seasonal quest is basically clearing a shard? when’s the next explosion?
The crystal should fall again in five minutes so yes, wait
(Explosion on half hour, crystals fall two mins later)
thanks for the answer, now I know I'm not missing out on much 
I wonder what tgc is gonna collab with. Possible a new and huge area ? cool looking cosmetics, even more new features 0.19.0 hope 0.19.0 has 6 spirits rather than 1
||I wouldn't mind if tgc adds 10 spirits
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They have shard animation down to the sanctuary from the clouds,i think ur missing it?
Lists of Where Shard Events Happen (research purposes that i might update)
Prairie:
Bird's Nest
Prairie Caves
Sancuatry Islands
Forest:
Elevated Clearing
Brook Area
Valley:
Village of Dreams
Wasteland:
Forgotten Ark (Bugged in Beta)
Vault:
None (Possibly Bugged Too)
i still can't complete the first seasonal quest.. 
Shards were in Forest clearing too
Before the first gate
i forgot if that's the first or second area uhmm
Not with the quest, but rather due to storage being bogged down sometimes screen recorder doesn't want to behave properly, hence maybe it's best to remove thing u don't use and clear space up for recording bugs as it gets messed up sometimes....I've just cleared up about 7gb of RAWs I backed up to my pc and things are a bit better currently
First area
tyy
In forest it happened not only in brook but also before the first metal gate. I did clearing there 2 times.
I don't think the missing shards are bugged but they simply don't spawn because of the nature of wip on beta.
This season is a rough, unfinished, work in progress
I finished the sanc one but why. have I not completed the quest yet huhu
You need to finish it multiple times
It's bugged, do it several times
It bugged, and yeah, you have to do it atleast 3-4 times for it to be competed 
My head is aching.. 😵 Thanks warriors

Sometimes 2 times is enough too. It might be related to how many light fragments you catch? We will see. In prairie I (or me and my friend) could catch all of them but at sanctuary one or two faded out too quickly
Me who can't even go to Sanctuary without crashing 🧍♀️ 
Hi
how do you know if the quest is completed?
where's quest 1? I can't complete it coz I can't find it
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here!
Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!
Nah, I managed to get it without all the light fragments
I'll double check with the sanc one in a bit
So are the krebs in the dark shard place (should be) an eden kreb not the regular ones? Cuz when I clearing that place, all kreb are the completely normal. I just flip them all and continue burning in peace 
Where’s Quest 2.
I tried Sanctuary and it doesn’t work
Maybe what Wes said here relates to why we need to do the quest multiple times #beta-discussion message
If you used Sanctuary to complete quest one today, you may need to wait until tomorrow to do a different shard
Tgc deciding to give us back walking in continuous rock rain instead of crawling but adds crystal crabs

OH COME ON! (Not really mad, I was kidding)
And yeah, about the crabs. Sometimes the crystal crabs just...don't end up spawning. That's a bug
A very nice bug. Got on my sanctuary shard today no crystal crabs only regulars 🤲
My first visit had no crystal crabs, but the second one did
my friend fed the normal crab to the crystal crab 
Hello, buddy. It is not possible that anyone has been innolaced so far with the high price of the items of each shard. They took the price of four spirits and split it for these two.
I say if we don't like the prices give feedback!! I have many times already. Each node gets insanely higher. 85 for next price is too much for a single item.
How’s it going to come back as a TS then?
lmao, third quest on first try
Tgc said they were still unsure on how they'd come as TS and are discussing it internally a few days ago
If the idea is really not to look like a season they're hitting it hard. In addition to the reuse of the stingray cover, the double price of the items is absurd.
@cobalt jacinth soz for ping
You don't need to get all the light fragments, I don't think I got half of the manta ones and I managed to complete the quest
I agree with you. We need to express our dissatisfaction.
the music that plays for the sanctuary shard is so goood
Hey y'all. Are you done with the second season quest? Where should I do the quest? I'm kinda confused because i just finished a shard at sanc but it didn't complete.
The pins have the statement on TS
A lot of things this season are absurd, I think they should scrap the whole thing imo . Gonna get hated for that opinion I’m gonna go run 
There's music 👁👄👁 I always play with music muted
Someone suggested to split the two orbs in half so the trees aren't too expensive
i can't even do the first quest. 
Where are the shards 2day? And is that where the 1st quest will be? I’m sorry, I’ve read over all you all’s posts for last w day and I just have no idea how to complete the quests. I know they’re in Prairie but where
yes hahaha its super intense
You're gonna say that after the season has only been tested for...what...five? six days? I don't want to come to a conclusion like that so quickly 
The shards are in Sanc today.
Just a rundown on what the quests should be like when working properly for those who are confused.
-You can complete the first three quests in any realm
-The event location is indicated on the realm gate, it rotates daily
-Clean most/all the darkness until a medi circle appears
-Meditate then collect the light fragments
-Animation should play, and the crystal guide appears, talk to it
-You'll be teleported to the void where there are creature statues
A momentary opinion (?)
Ok but where in Sanctuary? I thought I looked all over but saw nothing
I just did this but it didn't work. Second quest didn't complete
True but I have a strong feeling the crystals are it.
Where the turtle surfaces those islands near it
Just gotta keep doing it until it does, the event is bugged
The furthest islands from the entrance!
@keen dawn If the dark room didn't have a ton of creatures in it when you completed the quest...please do it again. It's bugged to not complete unless you repeat it a few times.
Oh wow I finally managed to enter an actual memory instead of a void and complete the first quest 
??Hello... where can I complain... it's okay to make it difficult.... but it's already overdoing it, it's necessary to do Eden on your knees... so much humiliation is necessary
Ngl I assume this too. Since the quests so far are repetitive. But I'll give myself sometime to render my opinion since it's only the second build 🤔
Sorry I forgot to turn off ping Sarah 💀
Is there a second place in prairie where the shards will fall? Somewhere other than the sanctuary islands?
@twin isleThank you
Only one crystal available today. It seems to switch between two crystals and one each day
Yeah, I feel like we should only do the shards twice. But we'll see if there's a payoff in the next quest(s)
Wait wait wait, statues? I saw like floating ghost jellies
I mean, they look like statues. They're technically memories, but...they're a bit...statue-y
Did the quest complete for you?
Yes! (Finally, I might add XD)
I think it depends on which quest you’ve completed…? Each seems to have a different creature, from what I’ve seen in #beta-screenshots-videos. Depending on which quest’s creature you get, some look like statues, but the jellyfish definitely look more ghost-like.
Yeees I think so, since the two shards happening at the same time is only during the first two quests release. The next quest could be fistfighting with the Krebs, who knows 
Ooohhhhh so this is the first quest memory then i guess - so it seems unrelated to what you actually do in the shard event because that was a manta.
I Put a screenshot in #beta-screenshots-videos
Would someone post a pic of where these shards are in sanctuary? I’ve been all over the islands and there is nothing. This is the most frustrating season ever
Looks like it! I also managed to complete a quest for the very first time today, and got the
, despite the fragments being shaped like mantas. 
Rip cooldown, I just posted a screenshot - but it’s one of the small islands in the sea
I posted a msg link above showing the location
Actually you should notice the location the second you enter sanctuary. It's pretty obvious, a red shining dot.
If not, it must be bugged for you
In Turtle island (The place for Turtle guide for Days of nature last time) If its gone you should wait for half hour to be appear.
quest bugged, I can't finish season quest 1

Season quest or daily?,you should repeat the step to complete it,i repeat the shard quest in sanctuary,and it should be done.Also you can repeat that step to complete to the second and third quest too!
It just fell down again - it’s the island below where the shiny kid is on the high floating little island
does anyone knows when and where the shards fall?
Try reading up
so it falls randomly in the realm? I thought its always the same place and was always confused
I got into the manta room, took a screenshot, game crashed and then I had to do the whole sanctuary shard quest again 
it seems to be on some sort of rotation cause last time it wasn't in sanctuary, but the prairie cave and bird nest
hello, i've reported this to tgc but i just wonder if it only happen to me when my skykid spawns in Eden and the game suddenly crashes and i cant even move an inch ;-;
I remember it being in the prairie cave so I was waiting there and got confused when it didnt fall
Why do we need crystal crabs in Eden isn't it really frustating
oh, so a lot of people experience the crashing game. thanks god it's not only me. i hope tgc will fix this as soon as possible
I meditated, talked to the guide, but was tp to the void with no cutscene 
i’m sorry but i’m totally confused. what does any of that have to do with my confusion on the quest.
Guy I can't get the first quest
i just cant get the 2nd quest done, I already cleared and meditated at like 3 shards
I mean I go to nest and it does not appear even though there is the shard and the plant near the praire gate. What do I need to do to be able to get the quest done?
Its in sanctuary today
Me too but don’t worry, this only the second update, later this will be fix
Thanks I'll try again then
how many tries has the first quest taken people here? i’m on my fourth try
for me the 1st was on first try then I got stuck on 2nd. my friend got both quests done at same day from the same shard
interesting
thanks for letting me know. i think i’ll just wait till another update or so is pushed so i’m not wasting my time
Thank you but there was nothing. I checked all the islands , I made three rounds. Then I had to exit the game twice and reload twice b4 it finally popped up. Thank you for ur help.
Hey guys! Any Huawei testers who got the email for update?
Thank You for ur help, but it’s easy for you to say “cool down “ when it works for you. The seasons been out, what 4 days, and I’d not seen one shard yet so hadn’t even done 1st quest. Its very frustrating
Where is the shard for today??
I've been wondering that as well! Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version, and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback after getting help here
Just be sure to read #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues first 
I think they mean cooldown as the timer for slowmode
those crabs are scary as hell, now. especially considering it doesn’t seem like you can knock them over while they’re all super saiyan dark or whatever 
just vibing on the sound track of the eden shard
us sky children are out here getting bullied 😔 to think video games used to be my escape too

The shards are in Sanctuary off the main island. The smaller islands surrounding it. Where the turtle swims. I posted a picture #beta-screenshots-videos . There are a few other screenshots, that’s how I finally found it.
... Did a saw right..? The peacefull crabs of sanctuary are also attack us
No, there's just new crabs that are not kind
Are y'all serious? There's always been like two crabs in Sanc that are peaceful
Crabs in sanct always attack
Lol what peaceful crabs? They’re nasty lil suckers
there are peaceful crabs? since when 
No! The two crab who are on the little isle, they never attack me-
Oh the ones on the far islands don't? Interesting
what the… i guess i’ve never hung out there so i wouldn’t know
Y'all need to do some LEARNIN'
yes, those two specific ones on the far islands do not attack skykids under most, if not all circumstances
@trail rivet Are you sure they weren't crabs from crystals?
And today they attack me :c i needed to deep call them
I'm sure, they were here before the crystal
Oh NO! I have no idea what's up with them, then D:
Maybe just a bug or something else- i'm really laggy too sooo
maybe the crabs are already full by eating so much winglight recent days huhh
Well I was able to do the 2nd quest today from the same Shard. That was nice
Ohh that’s not what I meant - I meant there is a one hour cooldown in the screenshot channel and I had just posted a screenshot there of something else so I could not post one to show you 🙈 hope you are able to find it!
also today I finally managed to get the first quest so I feel the frustration
i still can't complete the first seasonal quest... 
Just gotta keep trying, or wait for the update
guess so. 
Oh gosh, I’m so sorry. My bad! Please 4give. I was pretty hot tho….my head was about to explode!,!😂😂🤣🤣
I finished the first quest, but when i meditate and arrive at void, nothing happens :D
Sanctuary Guide rn:
Wait why is it red?
Sunset was supposed to end, why is it still red?
As frustrating as trying to complete the first quest is, at least the sanctuary one is really pretty
does anyone know how much the rainbow headphones are?
last time i checked they had no price set
I also finished it, meditated, get some shard, but i don't get teleport into the void and the quest still not done yet
I tried twice....now i have to wait until shards fall again
Can I ask beta question? 
What if season of shattering is already in ts pool then the spirit will also return as a TS. I wonder how much it will cost as a TS?
💀
So, prairie isn't working either
I got the red sky thinghie and seeing the eden throwing rocks, but none actually fell
Did the quest twice and finally got the shards needed. Also, eden crabs and regular ones stomped me out and I wish it was during the time I recorded cause it was too funny to be upset 
Did you check in sanctuary?
Yeah, near the turle. There's nothing
Only those brown ones that do nothing.
It is a timed event. Every 30 min.
Can quest 3 be completed now?
I can't do it .
How long does it last, how much time do I have to do it?
we don't know how this season will work outside its main run, and it's something they don't really care to resolve now instead of focusing on the actual seasonal development. refer to the pinned message by ktjn 
Try to be there in 17 min and wait for 3 min. It will crash on that small island behind sanctuary
No
How much time do I have to complete the quest
5 minutes? 10 minutes? Before it disappears
considering everyone seems to have wildly different experiences, it will just be better to see for yourself - no?
Oh, idk. For me once it appeared, it stayed until i finished. But for it to count as a memory to complete the quest was totally different to me or my friend. So i agree with misty. It might be different for you.
Unsure but it maybe from spawning till the next eden event. You might Wana keep an eye out at home space to see when the sameness poofs from the realm portal
As of RN the third quest is broken so you won't be able to get the quest specific limbo
Just did some testing and managed to complete not one but two quests so far today with sanc. I tapped on the guide before going through just in case on the circling ! At XX:00 or XX:30 and completed it. Sometimes get OOBed but its easy to fly up
Ive learned the crabs attack on sight so you can hide behind the darkness as you burn. Saved my butt during solo testing
So the rainbow day headphones are free? Or
Where are the stones in sanctuary? I can see the red sky but no srones
Its at the island with the large stone behind the main island. Its close to the geyser at the very back of the map of sanctuary
So not the ones we see with the geyser? Like the first 3 islands under the floating ones
its at turtle event island
The place we go and hug the kid when we die is just another dark crystal memory, because sky kids body is made of dark crystal
The quest is at the island where the DoN guide was at. That's the simplest we can put it
When we die we kill dark crystal in us so it works similar to seasonal quests
is that canon or..?
My theory
ah that's a cool theory :0
Help😭I just finished the seasonal quest but it doesn't let me move forward. I'm I'm confused 😭😭
Ánybody else having trouble with the third quest not completing after cleansing the island in sanctuary?
Is the friend request link an error?
I click the link to the browser and click again to enter the game, but I don't see any friend request.
my friend kept sending me heart even though i dont give the hearts back 
wait a minute hes probably hacking, i saw him with the ult gift 
Same! 😭
I did the sanctuary shards twice. it won't let me finish the second quest lol
Dude the third quest is impossible for me. My brain can't fly perfectly and the sheer amount of light fragments basically make it so you NEED friends. But I mostly play solo, and I can't process everything with my ONE BRAIN CELL. (But you still probably need a lot)
You don't need all the lights, I didn't even get half and the quest completed for me
I just wanna say
the music in sanctuary shard quest was really catchy
I know you don't care, but I personally feel like it's a bit too "boss like" for just burning more darkness ya know? I preferred the calm yet eerie style of music for the darkness burning quests. Even eden has a calmer soundtrack, and it's much more chaotic.
How many people able to complete first quest? Mine crashed
I believe it would be interesting to change the acoustics of all the kingdoms by the time eden explodes and the shrapnel spreads throughout the realms, then after the period of burning of darkness the music returns to normal.
It's been a mistake for me, too.
Anyone done the 3rd season quest?
anyone getting immense lag in areas where the shards are located? just by getting near those areas the game freezes and kicks me out forcing me to restart
Someone said to hang around the sanc island after burning the dark plants. The blue crystal appears after a while and you can finish the quest
why not bring a light prop like a torch or a vase?
tyty :D
it wasn't the burning that was the problem, it was the fragment collecting, and the time limit is super strict
if you have a beta account on one device could you get it to another?
Hope for Krill mask
and Eden crown
Day 5
If you want these, please send feedback 

i agree, i just sent in feedback about how the timer is too short so it’s difficult collect all the memory pieces
I'm not getting access to feedback. Please guide me.
what do you mean you're not getting access?
To send my feedback.
Two channels below this one is the Beta-Feedback channel. Simply share your thoughts there
#beta-feedback
the channel has a 15 minutes cooldown on purpose, you must wait it out
your message is supposed to disappear
I wish a big boooom on the way to eden too…
Imagine that screen.😱that would be the most terrifying moment in sky bahahaha😈👹
Had a pretty simple/ easy run doing the quest today.. strange to read some of the comments above about issues and difficulties completing it.
Does the cosmetics have prices now or 
they always did have prices
I'm looking high for what TGC intends to incorporate beyond these two shrapnel.
I want krill horns 
How much tho 
come again?
@main bridge mad expensive
I wonder if this season is a sneak peek of the end of sky, or a sneak peek on what happened to the eden king?
maybe we can get a lore about his descendants next time 
Oh yeah like 85 sc for the jelly cape 
I'd like you to invest more in the elders of each kingdom. For veterans it doesn't make so much sense to do the climbing of eden if we already have all the items practically. Well, it's just a burning wish.
I think player should learn skills from each creature when finish a season quest. Simply having a look at these creatures is kinds of boring.
My friend literally just DM me on FB asking to join Beta.
Guess how many I ask her to wait for new invites
And it less then what Skybot said but still more
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Finally the seasonal quest works and then I crash 
Oof. Pat pat.
Btw, total: 15 times or more (saying for my previous message)
I’m still gonna patiently wait for new invites while letting my friend asking for beta for the uncountable number times
I haven't been able to do the first seasonal quest. This is the farthest I got lol. But it crashed for me, so now I gotta do it again 😭
I believe very much that this season can still improve. Be better distributed the number of seasonal candles for each item, be incorporated more items to the shards. This is the season every veteran ever dreamed of. The Shard SEASON. It will be so gratifying to see the incorporation of new mechanisms, difficulty. Who does not freak out to this day with the trials there in the cave of Prophecy?! We like that. And of course new items to be purchased not only by seasonal or ordinary candles
.... but also the candles of eden which I particularly believe are forgotten and/or are not worth the true sacrifice.
Oh yeah, where exactly are the spirits now?
Guess they died 
For some reason when doing the quest in prairie I was like: “Why am I hearing boss music?” it was pretty cool
Ehem, so if i want to report a YouTube video i send a link to Zahlya, right?
Huh like what type of YouTube video?
One that goes against sky TOS
And something sky children of the light has put aside is its historical content. We need a plot for the children of light. We need to generate a buum in the community that will lead them to create theories. This is what moves the game and excites the players more and more.
arghh skybot won't let me complete my bug report
doesn't like my video skills
I'll send it there. Thank you for your support.
Finding this season interesting so far. After playing over two years it’s great to have a season that’s a challenge.
yup
Which is by the way will worth it if it gives ascended candles wax
do you perhaps have a pinterest account where you post pictures of your skykid or you just have the same name as them? 
also i agree with tib, i'd rather lose some wings/suffer than lose all
For some reason what is the location when the season ends? Does this season has no location so noobs can’t experience this season once it ended?
I could do all clearing with a fire prop without loosing wings. As soon as the crab attacks I just fly up one flap.
Not sure I get it yet but that’s ok. I’ve gotten complacent in the game. I lost that desire to just explore that I had in the beginning. I’ve been just trying to get things done as quickly as possible. This season is bring back the way it dealt early on.
It really makes sense for you to put it.
Tbh we never know tho let’s just wait until the next update comes
Will we have an update tomorrow?
So today the shards are working again, yes?
what?
What what ? 
The shards from the 2 previous days didn't appear
what what what?
I got the little objects, is there any more things I'm supposed to do or is that the end of each shard cleansing?
What about the white bird?
you're supposed to say "In nomine Patris et Filii et Spiritus Sancti. Amen." loudly and then you should be done
This season doesn't have white bird. You're misunderstanding something
no white birds
A white bird?
Are ya talking about the Megabird??
Not even a bird of any color 
no!
can you tell us what exactly is it that you're looking for?
Yes! - no bird here 
im assuming theyre using a translator?

What is slow mode?
Do season quests only work on sanc islands?
I can't see another place..
tyty XD
its in sanc island today so yes
You can only send one message per minute, so it won't flood the chat.
There's a time you have to wait between messages to avoid spam and offtopic here (and flood, yes)

What country are you from?
If you want to just chat, please use #general-sky-discussion , it's a bit offtopic here 

I wonder if we'll see a shattered memory of krills as well 👀 (just like with the krebs, mantas and jellyfish)
I HOPE SO
that would be so cool
Why can't I finish the first quest even I done the cleaning at island
That would be amazing
We're hot here in China.
Possibly the final quest will be in eden.. And we get to see some memories around krills
The lore of this season is extremely unique, especially the shattered memories (quests) ones, I wonder why there are alot of certain creatures in each kind, I'm guessing this is like the creation of sky creatures
Hoping we get to see a sky kid in the memories soon 👀
You need to do it several times and for some users it still doesn't register. Report in #beta-bugs-android or #beta-bugs-ios
done twice or more
Hey, what's your opinions on the pricing? I know it's only two spirits, but they could ease us in a little more than making the first three go 25-10-50
Okie……
Next is 85 👀

Yeah. I feel the same too.. Like there was always darkness and light in harmony. But something broke the balance
The prices so far is 25-10-50-20-85-3, I think it's... okay (I'm gonna get hate from this so I gotta run)
Shattered it, if you will 👀
I already left feedback to it, these prices turn off users I think. Already last season's 36 candles price was unrewarding
@south axle no emoji spam here please 
85?
I heard a theory once that skykids are neutral beings that are able to absorb light. Thought it was cool
What happened to the icon next to your name?
Yep! The 2nd to the last nodes are 85 seasonal candles, and if I'm right, these are the most expensive seasonal cosmetics for the first time in seasons of seasons
good god thats a scary number of candles
That makes me want a child of dark, absorbing the light from everything and being the polar opposite of the light children
85 is like 2 weeks of grinding sc (in live)
That will absolutely turn off people from the game.
what?
Hmmm this makes me wonder where would the absorbed light go, and so would dark creatures still attack dark children 
Well... The thing that I'm really curious on are:
1.) What will happen to the Void od Shattering? (The area)
2.) How will these memories come back as Traveling Spirits (or rather, Traveling Memories)
3.) What will be the pricing of these items when they come back as Traveling Spirits
Yes, I am aware of the pinned message
I SAID I'M AWARE OF THE PINNED MESSAGE 
hh
- High™
Dark creatures would be friends of dark children and the light would just be absorbs into them, hurting them in the process. I also would like to think dark crabs would follow behind them like pets
Hmm. I waited in the cave and saw the eruption event, but no shard. Is it somewhere else today?
Love the pet part
and the hurt do makes sense ngl
@grave jetty should be in the nature npc island
sanctuary
Reported memory bug coz I'm sick of it
You will see it under the floating islands of the place where an escape in civilization is know. Under the wing light of the farthest one, above the trench of the deepest sea and the friendly creatures who are different from the others.
In other words its right behind of the sanctuary islands below that far winglight.
Sanc is my favorite part of the game 👀 mgonna play a bit and try not to throw my phone out of frustration
I just would adore it if they expanded upon the dark and light themes. In "The light awaits" you started off as an unlit shadow child, only getting a candle to spread light when you meditated at a shrine, so I feel like having the ability to be a child of dark would be interesting
I should probably attempt doing the shards and relive grampy 
I wish that obtaining the ultimate gifts in this season is different. For example, if you completed buying everything in the Ancient Memories of Dark, you'll get the krill cape; If you completed buying everything in the Ancient Memories of Light, you get the Elder Manta cape. (Already sent a feedback btw)
ABSOLUTELY, especially with the steep prices of the ancient memories
It kinda sucks a little because I want to complete the dark first, but I'd have to unlock the light cape before the dark cape
For me personally, I have no problem with the prices, it's just getting the ultimate gifts that's bothering me, hopefully it's like this 😭 ^
I finally done first season quest
Today got shard?
hey really weird thing justhappened to me: plugging in my headphones just.....froze and crashed the game ??
Are you on Iphone?
Have to make it twice
I agree
im on android, so its even weirder
Does anyone know where are the shards for today?
Season that will last whole year to get
one at sanctuary island
I did shard at sanitary for first quest
Medi
That said I didn't do anything
So i redo that same place
Medi again
And got it
I believe it'll work for u too
did anyone do it today?
I know this question is a bit late, i had miss yesterday quest. Do any shards happen in value?
I mean... To go to eden i have to get all my wl first lmao
heya guys! i made a googledoc of my observations about the (sanctuary) shard event, if anyone wants to take a look and maybe add comments of their own please feel free! i'm gonna post it to beta-feedback in a bit so if theres anything yall wanna add or anything go ahead :0c https://docs.google.com/document/d/12kQzVQE-5-2lvHwVyLx-nWCptkwFRfNrU6iJaHTjFZo/edit?usp=sharing
did it when the update came and yes the continuous rain part is torture for now
the character lies down and doesn't get up anymore, and you can't use anything
I always was angry when my character was uncontrollable flipping and long time ti stand
I feel like
That wasn't worst thing
I feel as though everyone will love this season, but it seems like it's going to need quite a bit of work to get to a good place because of them trying something new. I'm glad that they are finally making Eden more relevant to Sky! It seemed like it was such a scary and forbidding place, but like was barely prevalent in the rest of the game.
Ppl for long time was asking for dark season of eden
It will at least make it more important for people to get every star possible heh...
I’ve found the shard event and done it, but I’m still unsure if this is related to the seasonal quest. Does anyone know if these are the same or totally different things?
Same
Android users, I have good news! I could just complete first mission of Shattering Season by cleasing darknesses from the Sanctuary Islands! Same place of Days of Nature event! Go there, wait some minutes and have patience! Trying to find another spot, but a victory finally!

Just an update, i redid the shard at sanctuary and it did work, thanks again for the info!
Weird I didn’t see any shards
but the problem is youre getting much less than before if it stays- and getting wl is so tiring
Shards are supposed to pop-up every 30mins.. so should do in a few mins
I feel like they'd need to tone down the rain storm in response then
Can’t find any shards
@quiet moon
After about 2 mins more..
Sorry if this is posted already but is the first seasonal quest bugged? Has anyone completed it?
Help with shard i medi third times but not complete at all
On my 4th quest.. completing tasks is a buggy experience.. but keep at it, you can manage to complete them.. or wait till update
Only see a manta then nothing happen
the one in sanc should be able to be completed,make sure to click on the ! before going to the shards . i did do it twice before it says complete
I’ve done it 4 times and then go back and it’s doesn’t show seasonal quest as done. Do you have to hit the ! Each time before going to sanctuary? I also wonder if there’s an order the shard locations need to be done in?
Wait did tgc make the crawling thing less worse or 
But, where can I find them? I’m at sanctuary rn
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In the little islands away from the mainland
Island below where the wl is high above on its tiny island
where is the crystal now?
I ate it 
I do like that but still cant show that quest done
Ok, finally complete a seasonal quest. I’m not sure why it worked on 5th try but it may be because I got more of the floating light things. I also hit the season quest ! Again Right before going to the shard location but not sure if that haloed or not.
Heyy im just asking just in case, most of the repetitive stuff we need to do in the season is not gonna be final right? Cause i feel like a season where you have to keep doing the same thing is ..not good idea
Sorry if i sound annoying btw aaa
Already in all past seasons players needed to collect seasonal candles.
Hearts are meant to be gifts, not currency to trade as per TGC. It's much better and friendlier to ask them in person and spend time with them
I do like the concept for this season (aside from flashiness and falling through floors and multiple failed attempts to complete the quests). I'm actually having a lot of fun with the task of burning darkness and collecting fragments (though the latter is excessively difficult solo in some areas). But ngl, it does kinda feel like geyser event currently... Just with crabs and evil rocks
Yes, I agree, several mechanism assets are being just reused
Side query:
What are the triggers to get the meditation circle to appear at each stage of a shard event ?
50% of dark plants burned or a time limit?
50% of light captured in a creature quest within the time limit?
Has anyone got a successful meditation circle when only burning one plant or one piece of light?
So shards are only in sanctuary today? I did them cuz I still need the 3rd quest but it didn't work 
Finally completed 1st season quest fiiuhh
If you completed the first then shouldn’t the second and third quest be open to complete as well? Or is there a 24 hour cool-off period?
Bro everyone got hit by a rock yet no one dies 💅💅💅
@LeavesForest#7077
First time ever looking up a tutorial for sky, still can’t get it lmao
Just got through my second. Didn't work for me.
I also noticed that corruption isn't consistently showing up on the gate in Home. Might these be related?
I'm trying, but the bug report bot also seems to be broken. It won't let me start new reports anymore.
😭 i tried 3 times alr
Me, who's still stuck in Quest 1: Let me introduce you all to the Art of Giving up
||and waiting for tgc to smoothen out the quests before doing it||
I don't know if it was the lighting but after I completed the sanctuary shard quest it showed an animation of me getting 4 yellow candles (didn't get added to any of my candles though)
yellow candles would be ascended candles, right? i sometimes see the yellow candle forging animation in orbit
if that's the case then 4 ascended candles would be a nice amount to get imo
4 AC per rock event sounds like a fever dream
with how eden and pnr are working atm we deserve them 😌
Touché
Do the same thing again again
Yup
Yes next quest no. 2 and 3 are open to do
At least y’all have the quest, can’t have anything 2022
All is a bug-fix away.. soon hopefully
If everything worked as designed to, we would not be needed for what we do. Such is Beta-life.. losing progress, candles, experiencing bugs.. more bugs.. and then some more bugs
Did you make sure to sit and watch memory after collecting the shards? I didn’t see and left and went back to redo it and then noticed the watch memory button
Third quest does not complete correctly
I completed the shard this morning and the limbo was empty after the quest was completed, and no progress advanced on the guide diamond, we'll probably get an update for this in the patches :D
Why this season is so wrong in every level
Yes, both times. It always took me to an empty Dark Room, though I could tell from the placement of other people's memory candles that there was supposed to be something there.
Yeahh… I saw a dark room full of Mantas this time.
Hello guys, may I know where is the gravel area? I can't find it.
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Some beta builds have simply crashed when first released.. not so bad this one is
This is why beta exists, so players help TGC learn what needs balancing, what needs fixing from what's bugged.
This season is supposed to be unique.
Who made you a TGC staff? Oh wait, NOBODY, I suggest you keep quiet about that because it's not really your call about this sorta stuff. Maybe you should sit out the whole season if you hate it so much?
Be glad the build is playable
I GOT THE SEASON TO WORK AFTER 10 MINUTES LETS GOOO
Nice 👏
I did the first quest (valley) 7 times before it got done.. it was fun, in spite of all the crying and screaming. Beta is fun
i wasn't there for it, but i remember prophecy's "the floor is lava?" 
oh, oh, and assembly's crash everytime you got wax, too! 
Where is the first quest again btw? Valley or something right
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Hey all I got a stupid question but maybe someone can help me out. How do you complete the first quest? Im honeslty lost on how to
Yeah.. this build is not so bad.. I don’t care for the crawling in Eden much.. hope that doesn’t become a thing in Live.. and if it does.. it does.. gonna go with the flow.. the slow crawling painful flow
For the quests, you have to go to shard locations and burn darkness, after a while, a meditation circle should spawn. This opens the quest memory for you to complete. After this the guide should spawn to take you to limbo
Learned just now that I did not infact get my season to work
Aww.. keep at it.. or wait for the next build for a (hopefully) smoother experience
Are the three seasonal quests just getting the three memories? The jellyfish, the manta and the crabs?
The sky should be red if the quest is activated ,correct?
Sometimes yes, sometimes no.. but mostly yes.. it’s all kinda buggy at the best of times. I started with a red sky, and it became normal after burning one dark plant.
If you see the shard.. it’s activated.. to the best of my knowledge
Weird, mine is blue all the time expect in the sanctuary islands
I DID GET IT TO WORK YAY
Ya sure??
I figured it out, thank you so much
This season would be scarier if it wasn’t so buggy 💀
Or in eden effectable zones as well I believe
Nah that’s the scary part /j
Is the mission condition a specific shard location,or any location?After I completed the"Shard Event"on Holy Island today,the guide took me back to the season map,but the mission was not completed.The relative season map became a small black house with nothing but the guide.
Done third quest :')
Is the third quest still bugged?
There really is a problem present for many players who are trying to accomplish the first mission of the season.
🙏🙏🙏
I managed to complete it after doing sanctuary twice
Questions: how come some people have way way more seasonal candles like 2000+ there is a way or it is hacking? 
that's hacking yeah
people hack because theyre too lazy to just candle run lol
everytime I completely do the main quest properly, my game crashed
or too impatient to wait everyday and get the sc
Some of them just grab all the cosmetics then hibernate until the next season 
I got a feeling , we will have new beta update tmr !

Hopefully it's for bug fixes 
Guys are the crystals appearing today in prairie? Or are they still bugged? D':
They're at sanctuary!
No matter how many times I complete the shard quest it doesn’t recognize it. 😩
Some people spread plug-ins,buy unlimited gift packs by modifying game data,and even get past items by modifying data
How many times have you tried? It took me 4 attempts to complete one quest
Don't wanna be that guy but hacking shouldn't be discussed 
I’ve tried so many times in different places. I’m so frustrated
same
To all ya’ll beta players: do you think more cosmetics / spirits will be added into the season later on or will there really just be 3? 🤔
Perhaps to space out the cosmetics and have their prices reduced, yeah
Sure the overall price of the season stays the same but now the cape doesn't cost +85 season candles or a mask costing 28-ish
Wait besides from sanctuary is there any other shard event going on today?
Yeah, i also thought it was a bit odd how the constellation form has more of a gemstone shape and the line between the spirits doesn’t really complete it or something, like one is missing?
shoulder crab is 85 candles... that's about 14 days of grinding for AP holders, and 17 for non-ap. at this point it's just frustrating
How the constellation looks is honestly the last thing on my mind wwww
Hey beta did the rainbow pants get switched to candle currency or is it still a iap?
Do u know the price in candles or?(rainbow pants)
I got told it's 95- so?
Ahh, not too bad. I’m currently at 50 candles.. it stays a month right?
what even is the point of having a constellation this season? the spirits (if they can even be called that) don't have expressions and don't show up in the constellation. all there is is the node that has the flag when you 100% the season
jesus thats a lot..
Good point, maybe in future beta updates more stuff will be added but this season looks very confusing so far lmaoo, (but also looks really good im hyped tbh) do still hope the prices get reduced or more gets added to even it out bc 80 for capes + shoulder crab is just.. yeah.
and on the other constellation, the jelly fish cape is also 85.
When the newcomer wants to exchange all the cosmetics of "One Ancestor" in the future, it is estimated that 500+ candles are needed, which is terrifying to think about.
Ok update...you only need to collect 1 light in the creature quest to get the meditation circle.
But my seasonal quest/ memory didn't complete
At least that means no worrying about completing in the time limit
Like.. if they were to come back as traveling spirits?
I think the reason they are so much is because it’s supposed to last us the majority of the season trying to get these. There are only two spirits this time instead of the normal 4 - 6 we get so they can’t really fill it up with useless spells because that would make it a very long chain list that each one had. But seriously I agree maybe they could start out cheap then like the very last ones could be 50 or something. That way we can at least get a cosmetic each week
yes
ohh so almost like they’re combining the prices of 4-6 spirits into 2 
Honestly, they should split the cosmetics to reduce their cost. 50 candles for some cape is too much even for an AP holder. Perhaps adding one more spirit would be good enough. How about krill, manta and jellyfish spirits?
I get why they did it but (in my personal opinion) i HATE having to wait for a cosmetic i really want. I already get like frustrated if i have to wait 1-2 weeks to get something i want badly from a seasonal spirit. Having to wait like 30 days for 2 things would make me lose motivation very quickly
Oh 💀
Yeah so I mean it sucks but like imagine if it was normal pricing. We would all burn through it in less than a week and be bored with nothing but the quests to do
Yeah I get it too. I think if we could all propose the idea of the spirits starting out cheap then getting more pricey maybe tgc might change it to that
Now imagine TS (if, hypothetically speaking, is treated as TS are as of now)
Should I copy my message to #beta-feedback ?
it's 1 mask, 3 hairs, 1 outfit, 1 neck accessory, 2 head accessories, 2 capes, 1 music sheet, and 1 instrument, plus the 2 ult capes.
meanwhile performance has 4 masks, 4 hairs, 3 outfits, 2 capes, 2 music sheets, and 1 instrument, plus 3 ults.
It's way less items than the more recent seasons have had, which I honestly don't care about, it's more that they're trying to make buying all the cosmetics for this season take the same amount of time as a season with more items
Hi everyone. I wasn't able to complete any of the shard quests the past few days. Is it possible to do the earlier ones? And if so, what do you gain for it? (Besides a SC on the quest day)
Their is only one shard or more today?
Oooo okay you got me interested now haha lol I’m listening…. 
Do we know what the ult gifts are?
Elder manta cape (idk what to call it but reminds me of that one giant Manta) and krill cape as of now
Yes up to quest 2 for me and there is no reward payout right now.
I get an animation for receiving some AC after completing the creature quests but no actual currency reward.
If you manage to rely the memory when you meditate to the seasonal area, you get a snapshot like reliving a static memory
Do you have screen shots?
you dont think more will be added? O_o the season is still fresh
I'm not in beta but the vids showing the new season looks scary
This is why im lowkey hoping more will be added soon
No you have to wait till it comes around again. But don’t worry it doesn’t matter what shard event you start on. I did my first today and I just meditated after and completed the first quest. 🙂 we just have to wait for another event tomorrow to complete the second one
i really want a krill call 😭
I'm hoping they do add a bit more, they don't have any calls, stances or emotes to fill out the tree more, might help with the costs
I’m hoping for pants for the dark memories
yknow, with the prices this season being so expensive, to artificially lower the prices and to increase the chance of f2p players to get the items they want, they should like kind of do what they did with the mask and neck accessories, where the split the cosmetics of each light into two tabs 
that way f2p players can have a better chance of getting what they want, and tgc won’t have to add any extra lights
but tbh it still doesn’t help with how expensive it is overall
Isnt the season pass free though
I have mixed feelings about the krill call. I mean sure it would be cool but can you imagine how non sky themed that would be for skids of the light to be honking things of the dark. And imagine the poor new players who would actually think there was a krill around
Agreed
But we have a crab call already? Well, I'm not sure how a krill call would sound on a tiny skid
well, the calls we currently have don't perfectly mimic creature sounds either. maybe our skykids could be just trying to mimic the krill roars to scare their friends!
Thank you! So you did the one in Prarie today?
They can always make it sound similar but not exactly the same, maybe just a slightly deeper beep. A slightly.. scarier beep😈
Haha yeah that might work!
Comparing the crab to the krill tho
Those things may be a pain because of their headbutts but krills are something else
there's dark cosmetics but no dark honks 
but like if crabs in the game are actually silent but we have the crab call that makes something funky, I feel like a krill call that doesn't scare people is possible
I dont see a problem with sky kids learning krill calls or any call of "the dark".
Could be even useful story wise if you learn your "enemy" calls
Maybe a higher pitched roar would maybe work?
So it'd sound like the skykids trying their best at mimicking the roars
Instead of the actual krill roar (which still makes me jump)
If they want to spread it into 2 spirits when previously it was around 4, I think it will be better if the nodes and items offered are at least equal with the amount of items/emotes that we can get on previous seasons. So far it's limited, no? That's why the price of SC is more expensive.
Yeah maybe like a lighter call and it doesn’t make the rumble jumble of when a krill passes by
Ya, we need a yassified krill roar 💅🏻✨️
This season not only has less spirits, but also no emotes and less items. I can get why people think that it's more expensive than before
You know, it would be more interesting if the calls would actually affect our interactions with the creatures. I imagine the krill call as a way to temporarily get away from the krill
Although I wanna ask yall whos in the beta testing
What are your thoughts on the petrifying mechanic towards moths?
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
Are the red rocks missing rn??
one thing my friends and I discussed was rather than have like, the final 85 SC node give you two cosmetic items, to just have it spread out more so the central f2p nodes give more blessings
nothing wrong with more spells, and it still feels more rewarding because you're getting something in shorter spans of time than a whole 3 weeks for a tiny crab on your shoulder
Like how our deep echoes stun crabs and attracts butterflies? 👀
moths would definitely die a lot more, but i'm not sure whether it would be too punishing or not. I haven't been a moth for a while
Ohmygod, idk u but I love u
Tbh i love the cosmetics but the amount of items is.. disappointing? Especially since this is an eden themed season, i feel like they couldve just made so much. A black krill inspired mask? A new stance?? New calls (as suggested above multiple times, krill calls) maybe atleast one more black cape, just dark stuff /lh /nm
Are the red rocks bugged still?
Imagine the krill just floating there confused lmao with a us honking an attempted krill call XDDD
jiafei call 💅
They're in sanctuary today
I have an idea,because there are only two"ancestors",the price of props is too expensive.The props exchanged by the two"ancestors"can be exchanged through two"fan-shaped trees",and one node is mapped to5-6items.Node,each node is mapped to the season card node,you can directly choose to exchange a certain item,so that players can exchange for the item they want most quickly,and it will not be too expensive to exchange for too long.required tools.
Yes! I consider this too. I personally hate waiting and saving for a long time. I think it feels more exciting when the time span to get the item is not too long 💀
performance total candles needed: 388
performance items: 4 masks, 4 hairs, 3 outfits, 2 capes, 2 music sheets, 1 instrument, 3 ults. 19 items total, 21 if you include the ones in the guide's tree
shattering total candles needed: 386
shattering items: 1 mask, 3 hairs, 1 outfit, 1 neck accessory, 2 head accessories, 2 capes, 1 music sheet, 1 instrument, 2 ults. 14 items total
plus performance has regular emotes. I'm not going to complain about the number of cosmetics this season, because that doesn't matter too much for me, but these two seasons should not have nearly identical total costs
The call we never knew we needed💅🏻
there's currently 7 items per tree, so don't think much more can be added tbh
unless.....we end up seeing something from the end of the qg tree
Oh where abouts ?
I think they are trying to focus less on the cosmetic side this time. I have heard a lot of people complaining before that this is just a boring dress up game so I think they are trying to steer away from cosmetics and make the quests more important. But unfortunately - cough cough - they are failing to do that since the quests are boring rn
In front of the jelly cave, where the days of nature guide used to be
Under the little floating islands with the WL
Oh okie tyyyy💖
Ngl I was a bit disappointed when I see that there's no new emotes 🤣
Will beta be available in future again?
no more beta, i ate it
Lol good joke
Same I love emotes! It’s how I can express what I’m trying to say to my friends who speak other languages. Unfortunately tgc has ran out of emote ideas I think and they didn’t want our tabs to become to clustered. Honeslty if we just had a bit of organizing for our emotes I think it would work. Like tabs for “love emotes” “hi and goodbye emotes” “funny emotes” “mad emotes” “dance emotes”
Why is nobody talking about the fact that krill cape inside is yellow, why isn't it black 
I did feedback already, nice if you do the same
I hadn't even seen it omg
isnt krill cape inside red?
Oh what I though it was the same as performance ult
I assume that's why tgc gave survey regarding who has been to eden or not. Maybe new players won't be able to taste the horror of this season when they haven't finish eden 
Besides that, I assume that it will be not only confusing but also frustrating for them since they are more likely to do it solo and with less wing power.
it does have the same structure as performance ult, but different inside colour 
too similar tbh
maybe they could make different calls/stances/emotes tied to different quests? we see creatures in each memory from eden, it would make sense to obtain new calls from those
It should be black, as dark as Krills. Can you do feedbacks with me? 
Krills don't reflect any light, the cape should be the same.
I think it's generally not encouraged to campaign for certain opinions to be sent to feedback
and I've already given my two cents a couple days ago anyway
@naive trail regarding your message in #beta-screenshots-videos, outfit requests are not allowed during beta testing period 
The emotes are extremely helpful especially when you encounter beta bug that makes chats unable to be used 💀 I love the idea of grouping emotes!
oh mb!! i didnt know, ill delete my message! so sorry
Krill call for dark entity and butterfly call for the other
YESSS BUTTERFLY CALL
they make such a cute little noise, having that for a call would be amazing
Off to feedback I go 
If feedbacks aren't opinions, what is it?
What Cy (probably) means is not to rally up people as in a "GUYS THIS NEEDS TO HAPPEN"
Oh-ooooh 
btw idk if im allowed to ask (if not just yell at me message will be gone within seconds) But to get the days of rainbow pants, do you need to purchase something else first before you can get the pants? or is it just 95 candles for the pants and boom u got em?
Some spells iirc
Yea spells
nastymold has a video showing the DoR cosmetic tree so you can look that up
It’s like a price chain I think it’s at the top so like 105 candles needed
on yt?
yeah it's like 2 trail spells
tbh one mroe thing id like to see added is some krill inspired pants to finish the set of krill hair + krill cape
I think this should go to #wishlist-and-ideas-archived 
So bugged, I've completed the quest twice and still not showing complete. Yet my friend just holds my hand and it shows completed the first try. I don't get it
wouldnt it be #beta-feedback since its kinda spoiler?
If it's going to wish list, leave out the krill hair 
it's related to the season currently in testing, so yeah #beta-feedback
come to think of it, we don't really have very many dark-related things in sky, huh? it's krill, crabs, dark plants, and maybe the fire trial shadows. maybe they could consider adding in a new dark creature this season
Pls don't give me hope 😔
Isopod dark creature lesgo
Don’t forget the leviathan in abyss as a dark creature!
that's true! though I think the leviathan is probably an elder krill, so I was lumping them in with the krill. plus i'm just kinda wondering about how they would add in more dark cosmetics without getting repetitive
From my experience, I wouldn't hope much that they bring new elements or creature in this season as the test has begun. Well at least that's how it usually was 
But maybe in next quests, who knows
anyone else feel the back of the krill hair could use some work? it looks like a mop as of now, and really takes away from its awesome front end
Or light creatures for that matter
((casually ignoring turtle))
Leviathan mask 
pspspsps tgc would you be willing to finally show us those corrupted light creatures I've heard so much about
Yassss
@stable sun Bro that the screenshot channel with 1 hour cooldown, this the discussion one.
using the krill hair to cosplay sonic the hedgehog
It gives more Shadow vibes 
Emo heart brocen
Owoh
idk why it was a good idea for them to post a huge paragraph of feedback stuff in the screenshot channel anyways (and edit it out when we reacted with
)
Anyways yes I do agree tho that eden is a nightmare with the new crawling animation (and yes, ive already left feedback
)
That's a great idea.
u can share it in feedback if u want^^ the more feedbacks the more chances of it happening
more feedback doesn't necessarily guarantee that a change will be made, but opinions are good to be shared 
I just so desperately want the krill cape edits I've seen and rainbow ring on heaphone ear cups
I can only send so many times into feedback
Shards are in sanctuary?
Where exactly please?
On the little islands where the turtle shows up.
I know that: Look I am very stressed out about Sky right now.
I just tried to share a video and I feel like I have to go through a lot of red tape just to get my point across.
I have had some of my friends recently quit the game because of this update, some of them that stayed have declined going to Eden ever again by themselves, and debate even going in a group- I've seen a video in youtube that shows exactly what goes down with the new system:
Once you'r blacked out, you can't get relight your self, and another has to be lit in order to light you so it wont matter if you are in a group or not and if they try and save you and they get Hit to then they are down, there is going to be a lot of Downs in Eden and even some veteran players wil not be able to complete Eden.
Once down in Eden you also crawl and you can't do anything, you will just end up Dying in Eden and all that WL gets wasted.
I have already expressed multiple concerns about the game to TGC in feedback channels when it comes to this update.
I think a lot of people dont even realize the repercussions of this update.
It's on the little island, where those 2 friendly crabs are roaming around
Not so friendly crabs kicked them out 😔
Hi 🌸 I was wondering what the name of this song is, can you help?
I found the message in the new area, otherwise I would have posted there. 😭😭
Okay third attempt competing the quest and it's not registering. Anyone have any tips?!
This update is.... New,so it's just obvious there's problems, the first quest is so bugged
Try more times. It could take 4 or 5 attempts in total
tbh I don’t see myself craving or using almost any of the cosmetics this season
Sadly Flying Lights Co-Op Server is shutting down v_v
I've done it four times today, and it never registers. Apparently some people have gotten it to work, but no one knows what makes the difference.
A while ago I thought it might have something to do with the bug that sometimes prevents the corrupted fate from showing up in Home, but I can now confirm that this isn't the case: the quest isn't registering even if the corruption shows up.
are you viewing the memory after completing the quest by meditating again in the same area?
I agree that eden it's now unfairly harder to solo players, both new and experienced, lately I've been playing on my own as well cause my friends timezones and schedules don't align with mine so I do realize the repercussions of this update.
did you record it? I don’t see how we can help if you don’t post the sound
Yes I've done it all three times then it takes to the back room and always says retrieve one more piece of the memory
They need to sort something in Eden mannn im a Veteran and Regardless if you go solo or in a group once you hit the red River of rocks there’s no hope I only got six candles this run and that’s never happened not even on my first Eden trip I always complete
The devs have definitely taken notice of people's complaints. On Thursday and Friday they were here in this chatroom, asking all kinds of questions about what exactly people felt was going wrong with the events. But they've been off work since then, so we don't know what they're planning to do about it. They should be back to work on Tuesday.
I'm going to do it now.
not too sure if i can ask this due to it being beta still, does anyone know if the season of shattering is gonna be like a full length season? :o
I know I know it’s beta ….. I also know they will change it I’m just venting
I agree with the reason you're concerned but abandoning a game because of beta testing (let's say) is not the most thought over and wisest choice. TGC asked for many feedback even Sagomay did by person specifically asking about Eden in this channel and it would have not been done if tgc doesn't want to adjust it or modify it in a future build 
I agree with the reason why you don't like this beta change, but screenshot channel is not suitable for concerns discussion and in beta everything can change 
if you want any reassurance, I recommend reading some of the responses to sagomay’s questions about eden (search bar is ur friend) - there is almost no player who’s been to eden that doesn’t feel the same way as you do 
Most likely, just know that the "Days until" counter is to not be trusted in beta, it's often wrong and changes constantly
For those who managed to complete eden this week: did you get a less amount of ascended candles in total? I'm asking because I can't enter eden due to my laggy game
They adjusted TLP so many times in beta that if felt completely different by the time it got to live
yes, the max amount I’ve seen people get with ~150 wl is like 9-10 ac. it’s impossible to get much further than the third statue in the constant red rain
Sure! You are literally unable progress in the endless rock rain zone
I got fewer candles, but I'm not sure if that's because there are fewer in early Eden or because I couldn't survive very long in late Eden.
Honey I only managed to get 6 AC this week … was a nightmare
Sorry this is irrelevant to the current discussion - just curious, is Days of Sky the next event that’s going to live? So the next event will be in July, with Days of Rainbow unconfirmed?
Players recommend attempting the quest several times before it registers. In my own experience, I only did the quest once today and meditated afterwards, and it registered. If you are still unable to complete the quest after many attempts, you should file a bug report and try again tomorrow 
Oh god that seems like a nightmare. Thanks everyone for answering!
Them I'm not planning to go in eden unless they fix the crawling animation problem
not unconfirmed, only delayed
No one knows what comes to live. Beta testers don't know TGC plans ahead
we just get some stuff to test in advance, TGC handles the schedule
we don’t know when either of these events will happen. days of rainbow isn’t scheduled until 0.18.0 (i.e. when the new season drops in live) -while we can guess that the anniv event will fall around 10-20 july
Thanks! I’m a beta tester too, was just curious if anyone knew.
We were told days of Rainbow will be pushed back to arrive on July, other than that? No specific date
Im glad that you understand - Any anyone else that is curious I have a request for you and others which I will make known in a moment.
I hope they add something more fundamental into this game that would just make it more interesting rather then just candle running everyday to buy cosmetics 😅
Do you guys also feel like the rainbow guides look huge or am I just not used to being standard height 
Definitely will file a bug report, I was just wondering if anyone had figured out a way to trigger it. It worked fine for my friend with the exact same device after just holding my hand the first time so I know it's not device specific
Yeah, to be honest that was what I was expecting when they mentioned they’d change the gameplay
I would like to see another way to get AC apart from Eden ! Like puzzles or treasure hunts to complete as a team
Me too that’s what I thought is happening like we are getting like some type of light mechanic to include into our everyday gameplay idk 🤷🏻♀️ I guess we can all put it in beta feedback
The only thing I can think of that I did differently when the quests finally registered, was to catch all or as many of the light fragments as possible.
Honestly, I was expecting to use our ac for purchasing more items from the elders
Yeah when they said new gameplay features i didn't expect just "more ways to farm wax" and in a not so fun way at that
isn't TGC located on the other side of the planet? It must be night time there lol
And I have a written document of notes that I have put toggether that explains other issues that would arise from this.
If you're willing to give it a read I would be happy to share; it is open for discussion and suggestions, tips etc.
I thought the new red rocks burning darkness gives u AC now? Or no 🤯 but I mean like other stuff to do Besides just earning a currency
I think it depends on where you live, lol.
IIRC they're in California.
Same here , I don’t see any change in game okay except getting Paralysed by spicy crabs and losing wings and necessarily but no easier way to gain them I know easier way to get ascended candles
LA Cali? What LOL I didn't know that, i thought this was a company based out in japan or China.
I have completed 2 red rock quests and not got a single AC drone it
That Game Company has their head quarters in California. You can read more about them here: https://thatgamecompany.com/
Central USA Northern Hemisphere :P
Don't say where you live
... :0 were we supposed to...
I mean if you do live in China, neatese are the ones handling sky, who have their own schedule and things going on
Minnesota is quite big, you know. 😉
I read we were supposed to but nope I got nuffin …. Anyone one else got AC from red rock quests ????
Looks like the rewards from the seasonal quests are completely bugged . I used to get a huge amount of wax in the previous update but now it's gone
Same as …SC …. I lite abs collect 40 total from each relm then they only gift me 25 WTH
You only get 25 sc every day in beta.
26*
Huh weird then why did they state that there will be a new way to earn AC?
26 but you lite and collect 40
5 realms x 4 season candles = 20 + 4 quests + 1 freeby
25 daily--
4 from quests, 1 at the shrine, 20 from wax = 25
Oh
I could have sworn it was 26
I'm bad at math, nvm me
Must be bugged I actually counted 8 sc in each relm today
Oh so there are SC in every realm on beta? Never knew that. I use beta exclusively to test the quests and rarely ever get the cosmetics. Lmao
Yes, that's correct.
2 bunches are enough to give 1 candle in beta
And so because you get 4 candles in each realm meeaaans
Because there will be, but it’s bugged at the moment.
I think i might have like. 3 seasonal cosmetics on beta, they're not my priority 😭 I've tested dreams, assembly and TLP ao far
I know it sounds funny but I do wish like for example if we honk it would like magically revive stuff from the ground or like clues from sky’s past, 😂 sky does feel like the remains of a past civilization and I wish to see like a hint of magic from the past to be revived
There's no requirement that you should get the cosmetics, but it's a fun reward, especially if you don't get the AP in Live.
The last ss on #beta-screenshots-videos makes me think... I hate the sunset on sanctuary cause it hurts my eyes so bad. And it makes me feel guilty cause I know it's objectively pretty lol.
I find the red to be much more pleasing to my eyes, and I'm gonna miss it when it's gone. :c
It's really times like this I really question how much play testing TGC does internally. Eden past the second section of PNR is literally impossible. Before the second section, if you get hit by a big rock and get extinguished, your run is pretty much done right there. It almost reminds me of the slow Eden bug we got around this time last year and it seems history repeats itself...
I thought of the slow Eden thing too 💀
I have a feeling that TGC has an ideal gameplay in mind, but the players aren't doing that, so they're creating all these ways to coerce players into behaving the way they want. But you can't force people to be compassionate. You can't make someone be kind. And you can't will someone to feel a certain thing in Eden by changing how their character moves.
Yeah, I feel like it'll only make us mad. Lol
I guess tagging a longer caption to the video I shared there was not suitable: sorry about that.
As for quitting Sky; in all honesty I don't want to, some others already said they are not going to stick around if the recharge change comes through and from what I have ready in the release notes for the change is permanent from what I am gathering?
Some have said it is permanent so I am not 100% on that yet.
I'm still gathering more evidence and I am actually going to need your help and any other Beta tester here as I need to compile a research report .
So this is the perfect opertunity to get some nice testing done if anyone is interested.
Are the shards in priaire not showing too? Or is there a time for shards now?
what exactly changed about Eden this beta update??
its also brand new
the newly implemented damage system and some of the spirits have new poses.
from what I can understand, the damage system is decent in the normal realms, but almost unbearable in the endless rain in eden, because you can't get up and lose a ton of winged light
Seems so.. Physically getting hit by a shower of rocks... Especially ones that drain energy from you should behave as such - life taking.
May be they could keep the behaviour or absolutely getting decimated only in continuous rock rain area... That way atleast the first part is doable
yes it is, but the point of beta is to give feedback and this is still good feedback. The devs have asked you all how the new update makes you feel, and this is how they feel about it.
oh ok! :D Well no I don't live in China xD So I guess the LA area is what I would work with :3
Some statues seem to have been moved and re-posed, but nothing big happened to Eden itself. The problem isn't with Eden, but with the crawling mechanic, which makes progressing through late Eden almost impossible.
Yeah I am compiling a report, Zero my boyfriend here is going to help me with it:
It will be nice and clean, professional and easy to understand, with photos with info sources.
I think TGC would appreciate this since they are asking for Feedback, I have spoken with many of you here and have gotten some good feedback, responses and critical information
Where you able to figure out how many have been moved and which ones? or does anyone else here know?
My guess is that TGC is trying to make Eden more emotional. But the problem with that is that they also made the reward for finishing Eden a valuable currency, as well as introduced hefty price changes for upgrading friendships with AC, which ends up making Eden a chore rather than an emotional experience. People go to Eden on a weekly basis; they're not looking for their heart strings to be tugged every single week, they're trying to collect currency.
Tbh i dont think anyone liked the new eden update. It makes the game harder with the rewards being less than before.
Everyone will not be happy knowing the ac inflation + this. All of us will go to eden less because of how annoying it is. Not user friendly at all
You cant make it more emotional to people who played for years. Its a chore so we can get enough ac to upgrade spirits, if you want us to feel sad then add new content than making existing content worse
Now its even more unfair that veterans gotten the easier eden + less ac for friendship while newcomers get 10+ ac and impossible eden solo
Not exactly. I was in a bit of a weird position, because I did an Eden run before the update and then I did another one after. I actually thought the second run was buggy, because it looked like only some of the statues in early Eden were locked out on the second run, even though I'm sure I got them all on the first run. But once I heard that some statues had been moved, it made more sense: the unlocked statues must have been moved from a place I didn't go.
imagine making a basically required weekly quest even more of a miserable experience than it already is, just cause it should make you cry on the floor every time 
I want an eden season that makes eden more enjoyable with new areas and lore. Not "clean up" in the same area we are all in while losing wl.
In many ways, Sky is a descendant of Journey. But where Journey presented the player with big, almost existential experiences, Sky is a daily grinder for cosmetics. I don't believe the format of a mobile game lends itself to what Journey did, especially not one where the storyline is an endless cycle.
Players don't cry? We'll make your skykid cry, then.
Nah we'll both cry, me and my skykid with this eden
that's what i'm thinking too!! but to be honest, I'm quite terrified of this update going to live with a lot of issues... like the harmony hall prices and all the holes in sanctuary that were reported in beta and still made it into live.
hearing the first quest is nearly impossible to beat for some and the endless rain in eden... it really makes me dread the coming of this season! the cosmetics are fun and all, but I literally JUST figured out how to navigate around eden with minimal damage! I don't know how I'd be able to manage going back to eden if this new change doesn't ACTUALLY get fixed
like they have time to cry before being absolutely demolished by anything remotely red 
If this goes to live, many people WILL quit. Which is a shame because people have high expectations for an eden season
if you don't find it emotional enough to make you cry, we'll make you cry tears of frustration instead 
I'm certain the season is still in a very early stage, much like Prophecy when it began testing. But the Eden changes...yeah, I'm not as optimistic about those.
I would have hope if theres a new area. But from what i seen theres 0
How can tgc make a new season area, change tasks 180 and make it better in under a few months?
With the tasks being so boring and annoying, theres 0 connection
Cry while being demolished
I agree strongly with this statement: I must concur and wish to say that I weekly run just before the Sunday reset, we only get to go once a week, Before these update ideas in beta was presented by TGC My son and I would piggy back and we would jump through Eden and get to those candles, and we still use the fire lamps posted in Eden there to get all the statue their spirits.
when we get knocked down and blacked out we continue to jump and get back up, sometimes the barrage of rock raining own keeps us on the ground for a long period of time and this is how I lost a lot of wing light once and only got like 5 ascended candle out of 100 or so Winged Lights in total.
Two days ago we did a Run to Eden and both my son and I had a good run ,we got all statues and got 15 ACs which those still go by fast, we use them on friendship trees to expand our friendship abilities, as well as unlock Wing Buffs from Spirits.
In the new beta update thus far, I have also learned that when you are down; your menu will not be able to be opened so anyone that had an idea of using a fast recharge potion will be unable to until they can get re-lit someone which is extremely difficult.
I've never used recharge potions before and I am not sure how long the recharge duration is good for, but if you go to eden one you get to a certain point, activate the potion if there is a timer on it, this will help you.
There's some of that. Based on what the devs said in the chat this week, they're also trying to change the emotions of Eden to a certain extent. They wanted to make it seem like you accept your fate at the very end -thus, the new death animation- but I'm really not sure it hits they way they were hoping it would.
Honestly im just hoarding as much ac in live as possible so i dont go to eden for a looong time
and it's not like it's gonna affect hardcore veterans either, there are people with literal thousands of acs 
Me with one AC in live🕴️
So it would be more like the ending of journey?
Tbh i hate how much advantage veterans have atm. They get so much ac because eden before was pretty easy. And they dont need to worry about the newer eden at all since they have so much ac
But newcomers had to suffer
Question for everyone: if they moved the final 31 statues in the last section of PNR to before that section so we get our weekly 15.75 AC before the "red death," would that make the red death more bearable? I know the main issue I have is them literally cutting the Eden weekly max AC in half with these new changes.
go hoard 😭
I haven't played Journey, so I can't really comment on that, but maybe?
Only way to make eden more bearable is that the ac count should max out to 20-25 ac.
So that even if its harder, its more rewarding
Or scrap the crawling + forced teamwork all together
No choice but to😔
It will, eventually
I currently have like 90 something acs in live but still very afraid of this new "feature" 
at its very core, sky is journey. just with extra steps. this isn't a bad thing!!! i love journey to death so it's like OH BOY! TWO CAKES! but the creators need to realise the main game just by its very candle grind nature alone cannot hold the same emotional impact the ending of journey had,,,, every week
I only have 40+ since i only go to eden when needed. Collecting 150 wl is a paaaaaaain
Tgc is gonna add even more burnout
ah, yeah, i forgot that 100 could be fully spent on a few new friends
I'm sorry I just now seen this x.x
I wasn't trying to break the rules Should I remove the state?
I didn't give my actual location, are we even allowed to say what country and time zone we live in at least?
Yeah like new tree prices are insane I'm scared and hesitate who to unlock stuff with now
I'm not sure they even need to move all of the last 30-odd statues. We still don't know exactly how this new method of gaining AC is supposed to work, but if the total across both the old and new methods remains more or less the same, that would be okay. But we can't currently know whether or not that's the plan, because the new method doesn't work at all.
Tbh tgc should have never inflated the ac. Now everyones getting more burned out and makes people hate eden more than before because its an chore to do every week collecting wl just to unlock a friends warp.
Winged Light runs for me are a breeze :D
same, and i feel guilty when i'm the receiving side, like "gworl save ur acs, no need ro worry abt me" 
I only do eden when someone kidnaps me there, but before that I used to do eden daily and multiple times a day for months straight until new chevron system appeared i just left eden 
Journey (tgc’s other big game) is pretty similar to sky where you’re a traveler who can only honk and you travel to a distant mountain in a fantastical kingdom, but you die at the end with no currency or anything to really earn, you just have to accept your fate. Idk if they’re purposely trying to make it more like journey but it was something I noticed with the player experience the change seems to want to bring
I personally don't care if you can get AC through another method. Giving players freedom of choice should be in the developer's best interest. I shouldn't need to do both methods to max weekly AC.
no i'd rather just have them... somehow... disable the new damage system in the endless rain. otherwise it would get too crowded and feel less like a big final adventure
Tgc shouldnt really change edens difficulty. Its already hard enough
They can add touches that can make it more emotional but veterans cant feel a thing if their doing it weekly over and over and over, it gets numb!
Like cmon, how do i feel sad if i do eden for a year now. It only gets sad if you do eden for a month at most
We're dead inside 😭
"Eden is an emotional experience." Not me playing on a swing trying to get hit by rocks. 
wouldn't be surprised if they disable spells in eden at some point 
it's also already emotional enough
i cried my first time through and that was looooooooong before most of the wl loss changes
Its only sad if we feel connected to something new. Something fresh and different, imagine being spoiled by a movie and the protag dies. You wont be as sad as if you watch it blind.
Because you know the shock value, the emotional output.
You just cant make eden emotional by just changing the already existing one.
You gotta spice things up so it would be a shocker to everyone. Not just newcomers
it's actually kinda scary how much you'll have to grind to be friends with lots of people now, both in live and beta
I remember being emotional on my first eden run. Now I just wish to skip all the flying because it got boring. Just give me my ac pls 
Can't even unlock warp which is like a necessity in beta
On top of what you said: Veterans will have more wing Buffs since the start of the very first season of this game opposed to a moth.
This will create a huge imbalance: veterans will continue to acquire Ascended candles, because they will have like 200 WLs available to them so they might be able to get more Statue and if lucky complete Eden entirely each week to acquire all the AC rewards.
Moths aren't going to have enough WL, even if they collect all 100+ base Winged Lights from the map before unlocking WL buffs from spirits, they still have to go through Eden to get those WL Buffs
Because of this it's going to greatly extend the required playing time and effort to try and get above the WL Loss/WL Statue Return curve.
New players won't see much of a benefit of going to Eden, if they go they'll loose all the WLs and are forced to start over.
I watched a video of a beta Tester with a ot of WL and they got downed in EDEN and couldnt get back up. They were stuck crawling and couldnt make it to a fire Lamp post in time and in Eden there is a certain point where the fire lamp posts end, this is the final Event horizon where you rush into the raining Eye Shards and get the last remaining Statues their WLs so you can complete the mission.
TGC needs to take this into consideration there has to be some way to use a Recharge Potion or get back up, allow the rains to pause for a moment so you can get up:
There has to be something to balance the game play in Eden and the recharge system and so far I am seeing it become more unbalanced.
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Are the shards not working again?
It's in Sanctuary today, not caves or bird nest
I rarely go to eden because of how hard it is, but everytime I meet someone there, that friendship is SOLID. meeting a new friend in live eden, pulling eachother through and flying to megabird together? that's as emotional as it gets! and I'm terribly afraid this new update is going to taint that experience, especially with the honk-not-being-able-to-light-you thing.
Throughout sky there's this constant message of working together and making new friends, but I fail to see how this update can positively contribute to that message besides enforcing candle grind culture with the shards.
It gets worse when you have to forcefully grind wl, memorizing every location because your forced to. Now you cant just explore and find new ones on your own without ruining your chances of getting more ac. Thus ruining the fun for newcomers and burnout
I rarely meet new players in Eden. They're all at the start, but we end up getting separated
If the shard quests are supposed to give ascended candles that means the devs are open to more ways to get ac outside of doing Eden runs. If we had alternative options of getting ac that made up for not having to grind Eden to get them, how would your opinions differ about these changes? And any attempts by the devs to make it more emotional?
Would you be open to Eden being harder and more of the “inevitable fate” the devs seem to want?
Oh geez. This is so annoying. Not only is it timed, we’ll need to go everywhere to figure out where the shards are. Gosh
Thank you @runic girder
Yeah. We need may be a deep call from the shards just like spirits/quests
Im annoyed that the new shard event is the new seasonal tasks. Imagine geyser but in every releams as tasks for 75 days and it kills you!
Its nice as an addon of the season, but if this is your "main story and gameplay for 2.5 months" it sucks so bad
Do the same thing again and again, wait 2 weeks just to find... o its the same thing but in a different location?!
Its such a downgrade compared to performance and other older seasons
Wow I just now seen this also. sorry so much descussion going on - When you normally do an AC run into Eden in live and you get all statues, how many ACs do you get each time?
ANd do you go alone or in a group? What methods have you used and tried?
Thanks, Rezzy!
i'd still feel like the new damage system needs to be disabled for the endless rain, because new players don't even know the location of all the statues and thus leave their first eden run with like... almost nothing.
y'all remember the little prince going to eden?? THAT was emotional! perhaps if we got to see a PROPER glimpse of the past and who some of the spirits stuck in eden ARE, then it could make for a more emotional experience
But I assume when we deep call it should show the way... In all realms? I mean show where the shards are? 🤔
honestly if I can get a decent amount of AC outside of eden, idrc if they make eden harder. but eden shouldnt be impossible as it seems now 💀
If the event gives me like 5 ac per day, then ima stay away from eden
But ima guess you get 2 ac max since tgc is never that generous :/
imagine skykids from the intro are actually statues now
can u tell i need some plot, any plot at all 
Whereas you're right, evolving of users is unavoidable in any game. Wing buffs are part of it and a moth won't use that much ascended candles in the beginning
Yeah the starting cutscene with those sky kids got me intrigued in the story. Like who are they? Where are they now? Are they going to play a huge role in later seasonal quests?
but if it's made impossible for beginners, there's a higher chance they don't want to go through all the trouble again for a rerun, or to even play the game again
I understand your point of view, and i respect you. But I disagree with softening the difficulty of eden since we all go through that same difficulty and overcome it day after day. After all eden is an ongoing process that you don't learn the first match. Just as in the now distant past other players, just as I tried to be directed to memorize where the winged lights were. Honestly this season has more than accentuate the difficulty of the game and encourage
No. I would like the freedom of choice to either get my weekly AC in Eden or the new events. Making us lose around 6-7 AC weekly due to a programming oversight. (Unless a dev plainly states this change was intended and they want us to literally miss out on 31 statues, I will say it isn't intended) While the events seem to have promise, I personally hate limited time events. I am pretty sure the 30 min interval is for testing and they will likely be on the 2hr timer other events I despise doing are. (Yes, the social wax events, I don't like. I play a game to not have to worry about needing to be at a place at a certain time.)
i'm really hoping they make it a weekly event, or maybe a weekly AC cap and you can clean the darkness at any time during the week for a considerable amount of AC like eden is. Don't really wanna do it everyday yknow
WHAT INTRO
Teamwork.
If were at the point where you are forced to have friends, Then the difficulty is unfair. Eden is harder than it once was and old players had a clear advantage of an easier eden before it was changed. + the unfair ac inflation
Right now eden needs to be easier so that its fair for newer players and they dont quit the second they went in
There was an intro cutscene playing at the start of the season
I missed that cause I had to go afk while the cutscene played :c maybe it's on YouTube? I hope so 😭
That would be a good alternative tbh, for those who dread going to eden and collecting wl all over again
I wish they actually made the game better by introducing new content rather than making it ‘better’ by changing already existing things and making them harder
There is: you can get AC wax to forge ACs through out the Sky Kingdom, but that means more Candle run Grinding. Currently my Full white wax candle runs along with Seasonals takes me 2.5 Hours to complete at full speed none stop.
Having to grind Eye shards fallen from the Sky due to eruptions will add more time to the candle run Expidential but that is unrealistic for people like me as I have a job and education, as well as a second job coming on the way, I have a kid and family to care for - I don't have that kind of time lol to devote to Sky.
I think Nastymold has the cutscene playing in one of her videos! I hope I'm allowed to post the link of the video here.
https://youtu.be/Evmh6XgMZ5Q
in game development there's a fine line between encouraging and discouraging gameplay when it comes to difficulty levels.
encouraging difficulties are fair because the difficulty lays in skill. the player recognises this because ultimately it is their lack of skill that made them fail and thus! they are willing to try again!
discouraging difficulties are unfair (usually unintentional because of clunky game development) and discourages the player from trying again... because it's not a matter of skill anymore. a player could keep on playing the game and still not win because the game itself doesn't have a good gameplay structure or the in-game mechanics fight each other.
To me, LIVE eden has an encouraging difficulty level and BETA eden has a discouraging difficulty level
I understand your situation. I also have a job and a family to take care of. Such responsibilities.
I don't think Eden should necessarily be softened, but it doesn't interact well with the new mechanics, and that needs to be addressed in some way. Softening Eden might be one way to do that, but it's not the only possibility. Disabling crawling in Eden (or perhaps only enabling it later in) might also work: this keeps Eden at its current difficulty level, but sidesteps the problem of integrating these new mechanics that it wasn't designed to incorporate.
Hi there … yes I always get all statues … 15 AC , I go both solo and in groups depending if I go in groups I’m usually the one who runs thru first to light all lanterns ( ignoring statues at first ) once at the last statue I will warp back to my group at the entrance .
that way it’s easier for the other players to get to safety, while collecting their statues .
then I start to collect mine I do it in a left middle right rotation ! ( If you imagine what the friendship tree looks like) …. That way you will find all statues ( key is to take your time listen to the rhythm of the rocks . Once at the end in red rain don’t jump only walk and glide jumping gets you smashed to the floor constantly ..
Hope this helps !
much like uzephi I honestly do not care at all about the ascended candles from the shard events, because so far the shard events themselves are not only tedious, seemingly repetitive and dependant on lighting/environmental effects that make me feel slightly ill but also follows some schedule that I do not know will work for me.
I do eden every week because I use up such a huge amount of ascended candles just playing normally. even with weekly trips since november I only have ~41 ac. that will be obliterated by literally one friendship tree with these costs, so since I am forced to keep grinding for ac I drastically prefer my weekly 40 min eden trip to doing these shard quests for an unknown amount of ac
Outside of eden, what the hell are the seasonal tasks? Like its the same thing but in a different location.
Do i seriously need to wait for 2.5 months to just do the same thing over and over and over again?
wait 25 SCs in Beta?
In live Version I only get like 6 seasonals each day, how are you gettin 25 daily?
I very much agree with all opinions that Eden should be a challenge, not making users feel helpless with lack of control and suppression of weeky ac income 
This season doesn't feel solo friendly at all. The darkness is so difficult to burn even with friends because the animation is so slow. As for the last deep call change, it's only going to be an impediment to help strangers in critical situations (I.e a person drowning in wasteland water at the boat dock but you can't reach them with your candle)
will the memories come as a ts?
it'd seem weird since they are just little flaming balls
All eight Season Candles are available every day, they give twice as much light, and -and this is the biggest difference- they're always available in all the Realms. That's a total of 20 candles from the Realms, four from the daily quests, and one from the AP: 25 in all.
Friends, particularly I just hope and want to believe from the bottom of my core that this series is just than these two shrapnel.
In beta the seasonal candles are boosted to test seasonal items sooner, however beta frequently has (often painful) currency resets
it would be cool if we got more ingame lore and history :3 I would like to see a season that could be historical: we can call it :season of History, or Season Of the Past, or Season of Memories etc
Honestly I really don’t like the Eden difficulty changes. It was frustrating to play through and it felt like it was taking away my controls for the game. It’s clear though that at least some of the devs have been unsatisfied with Eden. Whether they don’t like that it doesn’t give the right “feelings” to players, that it’s used as a weekly chore, or something else idk. I wonder how they can change it without making it a more frustrating experience for current players
I dont like that im forced to have friends to even have a chance to do eden normally. Then the server splits, chances of stragers being together with you is close to 0%
#wishlist-and-ideas-archived 
This idea will be buried here without staff reading it
I think changing the ascent up to the summit would be a more logical way to increase the difficulty of eden than to implement changes that so drastically affect currency ignoring that most older players don’t just oob up anyway lol
Do you mind the crawling in the rock rain? Or is it just when you get stuck and are unable to move at all that frustrates you the most?
Imo, they shouldn't have touched eden at all, except for the statues changes. Perhaps the crawling animation could get triggered when you reach the end. I get that they tried to make it look aesthetically pleasing but it ends up being more of a hidrance
Tbh both. Eden already has been a long long suffering with repetitive cutscenes to me. Everything which is not enriching gameplay variety there seems to makes it worse now (yet)
I also miss a lot of deepening history for Sky. Even the seasons don't add up to the history of the game. Since the Prophecy we haven't seen anything else. Well to say only the season of the Enchantments and Season of Prophecy had historical context to add to the game.
They should have just make even look better and never make it harder than before.
They need to work on the season because theres nothing fresh and new on the table in terms of "prophecy like gameplay"
even if we could crawl all the way to the last statue, it would take 15 minutes 💀
Was hoping the Eden king would be involved in this season, well, still hoping
I'm not sure crawl really make feel emotional about eden...other than rage when I get completely stunlocked.
I'd rather they added more lore in or a story I can connect to make it an experience, like the TLP prince but with spirits or friends
And an alternate shorter route for ascent....
Yeah, I don't see any element from the season that's related to prophecy at all. Maybe it's about the difficulty of the tasks but I don't see any correlation 
Exactly. I strongly agree with you.
when I went through Eden for the first time in beta (had around 50 wl), the rock rain part was pretty much impossible and I could only get to one statue because of the slow crawling
it was so frustrating that I probably won't bother with the constant rock rain section at all in the future 
Don't mind if that means we get less of a payout as long as these shards are paying out well and are permanent
THIS.
This season is suppose to have "prophecy like gameplay"
Im guessing like jumping, dodging, and skill to reach the end goal. Not this oh woe is you, gonna clean up all of this for 2.5 months while the crabs remove your wl!
And were gonna add more salt and make eden impossible solo!
you will become numb to anything you do often enough, so I don’t think there’s any real point to making eden more emotional other than enhancing the experience even more for newer players. even then, is there anyone who didn’t already feel like crying when they began the ascent to orbit as a moth? these days I get more emotional seeing the names of all my friends, especially those whose stars are never lit, flying with me.
I was actually expecting some cool minigames but we got our arses obliterated by falling red rocks instead 
This is why we need to come up with a way to deal with the imbalance created in Eden by this update ; example would being allowed to use recharge potions; and since those cost candles I think, they will be used every week, so we need a currency offset for this as well so the investment into Recharge Potions is profitable and not a loss.
The White wax collection system already has a Limit on how effective wax collection is; the more you collect the less you will acquire down the line.
We are going to need to be able to cover the cost of buying a number of Recharge potions to help us out in Eden with this new damage system - but we need to be allowed to access our inventory to get the Recharge Potion when we are down (That currently isn't allowed in Beta from what I've heard thus far).
If TGC did at least that, then I wouldn't be bothered so much about how the overall gameplay is going to be affected, I agree that this will provide more of a challenge to player and vets especially, but it needs improvement and other ways to recharge our selves.
If we can get a better balance in Eden then I think many more would be more happier about the change.
one of the things that was talked about here was that some have noted that the Statue positions are going to change perhaps they are going to re-align them to make it a little easier to get all the statues since we are forced to crawl?
Maybe they need to add more Fire lamp posts in a cluster then being so spread out.
Even newcomers will get numb after they play it blind. You cant repeat the same emotions as your first trip
Did they mention date for rainbow and anniversary?
which are surrounded by dark plants which are veryyy slow to burn and also shard crabs you can’t even flip upside down and they seem to have no cooldown😭
That aint difficulty nor skill, thats just waiting and rng
Thats the opposite of "prophecy gameplay"
no but it's supposed to be somewhere in July
We basically got a wasteland farm but like on every realm 
i kinda hate when it seems like they think that making things out of our control = challenge 😔 like the carry quests and even the fire trial are hard for me in an annoying way just because i cannot move fast enough, or see clearly enough, not because it's a really challenge. seems like crawling rn is kinda the same vibe
I had to do the seasonal quest 4 times while lagging so much . Like please end my suffering ☠️
that’s pretty annoying tho as a solo player
and agreed about the “prophecy gameplay”, that’s definitely something we didn’t expect after being hyped
I wish the shards event is an extra thing added, not the main feature of the season. Its called the EDEN season for a reason
the only prophecy gameplay we got is clunky mechanics similar to the slippery air trials 
but at the same time, it also kinda reminds me of early builds when eden was added to pre-launch beta
I hated it with passion, and they improved on it. so i still have hope we'll see some tweaks soon
taking control away from players NEVER makes for an engaging experience, it only causes frustration. getting comboed by the eden rocks unable to move is already frustrating, im very much not looking forward to the eden changes based on what everyone has been saying about it
At least you have some skills needed for air trials like timing. This one is just pray the crabs dont kill you while you stand there in one area begging it ends 💀
This season is just the worst features of prophecy but make it samey every single tasks.
Is anybody allowed to stream beta on twitch?
Cuz i see someone doing so right now
Everyone is so frustrated (edit: in these discussions)
That said I do really like TGC are trying something new...
I'd just hoped the events led to something more revolutionary ( like an opposite world) if we are going to have Grindy events
Tbh the only good thing skill related is the earth trial, that is actually fun, and half of the air trial, because the other half is waiting for platforms.
Water and fire trial are literal just wait and move, its a patience test not a real challenge
I hope that the next Eden or Golden Wasteland season will be related to the King’s army, which appears in a couple of the Wasteland’s concept art
I'm (and sure many) are not frustrated. Many just discuss opinions and know it's a wip and many have good hopes (I hope)
Fire trial isint great, you either need to memorize the path or walk blindly. Good luck even seeing it at all, my first playthrought there took me 2 hours to finish it and i didnt have fun. Unlike earth, air and water taking me at least 15-30m max
This and now the new season gave me the same feeling
its pretty much "great for first impression, but not when you have to do it the 2nd time"
Fair point...it is only WIP and things do change quickly.
I really wish they hadn't scrapped the king. :(( that was such a cool concept.
Sky barely has any lore and I had been expecting some from this new season.
But apparently all we get is burning plants and being bonked by buff crabs.
With TGC messing arround with the lighting recently (sunset sanctuary, eden lighting on the realms), it would be really cool if we could have an option to change the realms lighting to another time of day, would make the game a lot different
Hello, I would like to participate in sky beta testing but I don’t know how. Can someone help me?
you can infer the general timelines from the fact that sky’s anniversary falls on july 18th and that days of rainbow has been pushed to the 0.18.0 patch update. thus, it is unlikely the event will arrive before the season we’re currently testing does
I know this is a experimental season but removing new locations and making it events insted is just... baaaad
It just looks empty and a letdown compared older seasons
Hah I don't remember the last time I've walked in the fire trial. That shiny kid can wait there for all I care 
They also have the AC/WL capital to invest into doing a full AC run in Eden if you got over 200 WLs then loosing some WL in Eden won't hurt them and they still could get all the ACs in Eden via statues.
Hence a greater inbalance between new players and veterans - this increases the gap between the two classes
Read through #beta-faq and wait for the new invite wave (they are not scheduled, random)
that honestly reminds me of another thing! I hope the lighting gets fixed soon.
my friend pointed out the lighting had been acting up after abyss and I wasn't sure what they meant until I went back to the flight guide. the poor thing is a GLOWSTICK! and you can barely figure out a good fit at home with the sun in the sky. it's insane!
What about eden is harder?
Everything™. /joke
speaking of fire trial; how do you guys feel about the “fixed” lighting they introduced with 0.17.1? I think it’s alright for the first level, but compared to footage from youtube around the release of prophecy the second and third levels of the trial are still way too dark imo
Oh that make sense! this allows testing of everything :D
tbh im a liiiiittle sick of seasonal areas considering how the average person doesn't visit them after the quests are completed so im fine with this
plus having familiar places completely change and get pelted with rocks has better emotional impact. its just that it needs adjustments so it doesnt feel like a total slog
It could be a great opportunity without new areas if the new game mechanic would be really new.
Are we just not getting star bois any more for the new seasons. They dropped it to 1 these last few seasons. Now zero… that 200 ain’t never coming 
Yes, it gives you a bonus called emotional damage 😍
Can I have a serious answer now please 🙄
Aside from the jokes, you end up crawling in the constant rock rain. And it is much slower /impossible to get statues there without spells
Edit: and you cant open the emote menu to use more spells once you are down
The second half is impossible, even if you have all wing buffs
The different lightings everywhere is my favorite part about the season so far. I'm not photosensitive and agree they should tone the effects down a bit, but it's been very nice to see all the different environments 
i'm not at all opposed to changes being made to certain gameplay aspects such as Eden, but it needs to be done in a balanced way. Eden in live as it is, is already frustrating, cause if RNGsus isn't on your side you'll just continuously be bombarded with rocks and knocked over. When people with their wing count close to 200 can't even light all statues, it's a problem.
And the way it is in beta now.. oh boi 
Please note everything in beta is work in progress and will change. There are new mechanisms with rough adjustments, nothing is written in stone
The wording in the notes, as someone who is photosensitive, really upsets me. "Just don't look" is insensitive at best. ... I maybe shouldn't discuss sky to much right now. I'm really unhappy with TCG about accessibility already.
forest being red and foggy is my favourite by far for the same reason! the way the red, sickly looking fog just consumes all of forest makes my heart squeeze in a good way lol. goes to show how much lighting can affect the environment if used properly
Eden is very clearly not working at all. I do have hope that they'll change it, though — this isn't the first beta update that they've thrown Eden changes into updates and then adjusted it when it was clear that it didn't work. There's clearly something about our current experience of Eden that doesn't match their vision of what they want Eden to be... But when we've communicated that their changes to Eden didn't work, they did listen. It's clear that they have a vision with this season, and it's clear by our feedback that something is getting lost in communication — we are not seeing the same thing that they are. The story potential is here, but right now the feeling that we're experiencing is "wanting to throw our phones across the room," which is probably not what TGC wants to be communicating. I think at this point what I'm wanting to see is that new updates and fixes help create better gameplay communication. I think that will be a help.
There are current changes to how you take damage that have a very dramatic effect in Eden since you're constantly getting hit, to put it simply. Like I took one step into the first section of the rain and it threw me so far from the fire shrine I lost 20WL before i managed to reach safety again
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I'm photosensitive and my biggest struggle is with warm light, so I hate the sunset scenes, and valley sometimes is so hard to grind bc of that. The soft red of the season is much better tho ;;
The realms with too much lighting like valley and Prairie have me straining my eyes and having headaches.
It goes with their opening sentence “Better with sound” pretty well doesn’t it?
I do agree with you with the normal releams especially forest and valley but since its eden... It would be nice for an adventure seasonal area where its pure skill. Like the trials
Than being the same tasks that dosent do much, you might as well put grandma in every single releam and call it the the season of eatting
I really like the way it looks just before and after the “boom”. the red smog in forest made it a little hard to see the spirits and such, but what bothers me most outside the shaking is the moments just after the explosion in valley/vault. valley looks almost black and white
The mountain view in hermit valley is absolutely blinding
on the topic of seasonal realms yeah i definitely need a reason to go back there after the season ends. like the atmosphere of treasure reef is breathtaking and the treehouse is so warm and fun and cozy- theyre 2 of my favorite areas but i dont really have a reason to go there
sanctuary is the only seasonal area people go all the time, because of the wax 
That statement just gave me another Idea and i want to discuss it here with you all before i add that to the report for suggestions feed back area for TGC to review:
Another player in the area that is not down yet can rush over and offer their hand to help you up, they can also light them up at the same time, Unless both are black and/or down, perhaps those piggy backing together or holding hands can help each other out and still move forward to get to a lamp post or another player that is lit,
If we can have more options in the game to light our candles then Not being able to do the Long honk call wont be much of a problem as we have other solutions to the light being out.
i TGC dials down the intervals of when Debris hit you, then that gives the player a chance to not loose any further WL.
I didn’t realize this…. Wow
I think the people who were all hyped that this was some sort of Eden Season are gonna be VERY disappointed. This feels like more of an old school season or just an event, especially with no new realm. What they did do with Eden is just make so much more annoying not “harder” just annoying. And brought some of that same annoying stuff to the seasonal quests.
😭 anyone who logs into sky at anytime thats not night time, and immediately has to tap friend constellation to turn on night mode because the other lightings are kinda too bright for your weak eyes say aye 
If this season changes the gameplay aspect and environment of existing areas. Like deeply changes it to something dangerous that needs skill than rng i would have love this season
ive suggested this so dont feedback emote me but god there needs to be an option to turn the bloom down bc good lord is it obnoxious sometimes 
One thing that I'm a little concerned about with accessibility is that a realm like Forest, if the red is too strong, could very possibly trigger photosensitive seizures if the glitch doesn't fix. I don't have photosensitive seizures myself, even though I am epileptic, but the vast majority of people with photosensitive epilepsy are kids who don't know that they have epilepsy until an unfortunately-placed light flash. But the most dangerous kind of flashing lights for someone with photosensitive epilepsy are specifically flashing lights that alternate between blue and red, because those are the most likely combination of lights to trigger a seizure. So whatever is causing that flashing bug, it definitely needs to be 100% absolutely fixed before the season makes it out to Live.
At least old school seasons had something new to existing areas, this one is just... an event that lasts 2.5 months
Is shard in isle today?
I would have loved something with the krills invading the other realms
I still have not been able to complete the first seasonal quest 😭 I have tried so many times and I don’t know what I am doing wrong 😭
somehow i still imagine it, after stepping on an area with endless rain i can only save 4 statues.
start entering the area with 128 wl 
Sky needs more settings all around. Soulsborn games have more care about accessibility than sky.
I don't have seizures, but my sensitivity is bad enough that flashing lights will give me nausea and make my blood pressure drop. I feel like that's a very important point to give them feedback on.
Isle won't have shards in order not to confuse moths. You can see by home portals which realm has shards. Today it's prairie
Imagine if the whole seasonal area where the shards are changes and you need to dodge the crabs, move krills away and clen the area. Making the safe area dangerious with stakes. Seasonal spirits near the area panicking on whats happening and some helping you
Each existing area has a different motif, one is more flying, one is a maze like area and another being sneeky. It would give a reason for people to return to existing seasonal areas
I do agree we could use some adjustments to the lighting
i have sensory processing issues and the lighting in certain areas as well as the effects from things like this seasons events, fireworks and all that, can be VERY overstimulating at times.
And it's not always as easy to just "look away". A lot of the times it catches you off guard 🙇♂️
And considering you're playing a game, you kinda have to look, huh.
I feel like Isle needs more blocked off areas to prevent confusing moths but to expand on isle's story
tbh i dont think sky doesnt care, its more of, they probably never thought ahead as much because this was their first mobile game venture and they had to do so much to make it accessible for lower end android devices
so i really think they never thought the game would look as crusty and bright on low end phones as they do, and adjustments to add settings of any kind are hard bc of the lack of foresight . but ahh thats just me and my tin foil hat 
You know what else is great? The number of things that break handholding too. Too bad if you have arthritis or limited hand movement, if you want that shell you better each be able to get it
It’s almost like they should hire, you know, an accessibility advisor
What is your android definition of lower end?
Tgc should have make the settings more customizable. Right now its only graphics
So older end phones can lower the graphics, make the game less hd and lower the bloom and lighting
I will admit, moth me didn't cry in Eden. I actually didn't shed a tear until I parked my late friend's avatar in orbit as a final farewell.
Exactly! I'm here to play the game, talk with friends, candle run, not stare at a wall with my skykid standing there like 🧍♂️ cause the lights are biting my brain–
Like it isint that hard, most mmo games i seen already have these settings avaliable since the begining.
oh, man.. back then you could play on i believe an android ...9? OS wise? which i did and it absolutely fried peoples batteries. i was playing on about a 4 or 5 year old android phone in 2020 for reference, im not a tech person so im not sure of the specifics lol
I didn’t cry going through Eden either
I was happy that they changed the sound settings cause the music (especially Somersault) was too overstimulating at times. I have some sound processing issues.
Even a decent or high end phone isint great with sky, right now im playing hot potato with my S10+ because even lowest settings still burns your phone
unless I’m with friends who can just carry me if it happens I’m often forced to just afk at granny’s when I go there in the live version because so many people spam the firework staff there
it’s a “scorned if I do, doomed if I don’t” situation because people often complain about others afking in social light areas
There's a repeatable reward in eden. If they want Eden to be special then I kinda feel like the best way would be to replace how we get ascended candles and make Exen have a one time reward. That would only fix things for new players I guess. Someone like me, I have like 200 AC. You can't make Eden special for me again.
I have a xiaomi note 8 (equivalent to android 9 I think?) and since abyss it's been freezing, glitching and restarting non-stop. So annoying
Is skybot/bug reporting having hiccups again?
Or give eden a special weekly award like a time based system. The more you do eden the more stuff you could get or add lore to it
GODDD speaking of granny did you guys also hate the change in the wax from yellowish white to fricking NEON ORANGE? Cause I did and now it's very hard on my eyes whenever there's a wax event like granny or geyser
Omg yes i've experienced this a lot too 😭 i really do hope we get a setting eventually that lets us adjust these kinds of things
the bot went offline today, but it was only posted in the live iOS bug report channel. idk if it’s back but I couldn’t finish a report even before they announced it going offline
Ill say the wax goes invisible after all cheveons are gone is worse. I cant see where they are
I've heard that people even people with Samsumg S22 ultra have problems with the graphics. I suppose it's difficult to optimize the game for most devices
Umara — interesting point, I never thought about that. I know that they do have some people with accessibility needs on staff who have thought about some of these things, but also the problem is that, from my experience, even accessibility advisors can miss entire important areas of accessibility because they're focusing on one area of something while they have a blind spot in another. Plus, when a glitch comes up in the code that creates a bug that no one can find, it's a real issue if that bug damages accessibility. But it still sure as heck makes everything a lot harder on some people, and whatever the cause or origin, it'd be best for it to be fixed.
When the sun sunsets in prairie now is killer on my eyes. Luckily My partner keeps an eye on the clock and tells me when to look away
If skys is a "social game for everyone" they need to make sure theres no health risk or straight up deadly lights because of a glitch
sky had always been made for apple products to begin with, so it kind of sucks for android. sometimes i see the graphics quality apple users get and im jealous lol
I like the orange look because I don’t have to strain my eyes as hard to look for it in bright areas when I have 0 chevrons
I just wanna record stuff without the UI showing
Makes me wonder why they haven't jumped on AMD's FSR yet for better quality when upscaling.
Sure, that’s a fair point but a lot of the things we’re talking about have already been sent to them as feedback. I for one have complained about constant clicking, and sound intensity multiple times
hhhh when I played on my friend's iPad I wanted to cry it was so pretty
I believe they changed the wax color because it's more noticeable in bright spaces
Tbh i like the new wax color, it took a while to get use to it tho
I don't want to kill the mood but does anyone have pics of the new Eden gear?
And now it makes me want to vomit. 😭 /srs
Idk if they've changed it but when I first started sky it said something like "sky is better with sound please wear headphones for the full experience"
And uh man if I was deaf Id have turned off the game right then and there.
Per the pins, we cannot fulfill outfit requests. I am sure you can find what you're looking for by browsing #beta-screenshots-videos, though
Alright Ty 😁
I also sent feedback about camera highjacking and motion sickness. It used to be a looooot worse, but now that we can relive all spirits it’s tough to stomach it
just did 2 seasonal quests in a row using sanctuary's meteor
it finally broke on the 3rd one, not complaining tho
i can't make any screenshots of them anyway 
@grizzled oxide sorry for the ping, idk if it's gonna count as a reply cause my phone is acting up
Is this considered offensive? Cause I think it's a way to let hearing people know that the sound is part of the experience too, should they not tell us that bc of deaf people? /gen
(if any of you are deaf and want to answer my question it's okay too)
I'd call it more insensitive than offensive. I mean the sound design in sky is amazing and they should be proud. But, and I mean this as nicely as possible, most games tend to be better with the sound on. Sky isn't special in that regard and I don't feel it's worth being insensitive in the very first screen of your game.
So, y'all... When it comes to beta feedback, I try to hold the opinion that the best productive feedback comes from talking together about the things that we'd like to see, and creating an organized structure so that we're putting forward suggestions that are clear and helpful for use.
So, for everyone who has accessibility concerns: could we each make a list of what accessibility settings we think could really be helpful in-game? I know where my perspectives are focused on, but I would be really interested to hear all of yours as well.
Controller settings and also making external keyboards work properly again. I can't currently speak in live xD
Day 5 of asking for krill mask
Genshin, for example, says “your experience may be better with sound”. This makes it more inclusive to people who can’t hear or who have sensory issues
Ohh, that makes sense.
A couple days ago I was thinking about this same thing. The message about the sound, and how it would make deaf people feel, but I don't have any deaf friends who could answer that to me.
Also it's not like the game depends on sound, it's just better with music (at least on the first run, I got sick of the songs real quick lol), so it's kinda ehh
Lessen the lighting bloom
Make the game not flash random lights
Choose which sounds you should hear
Make the game have a guide on whats happening, like a tutorial on what a traveling spirit is
I think a bloom slider would be great. Some games have them so people who like bloom can have and people who's eyes it hurts can lower
What is lighting bloom?
Like how much light it gives, the more bloom the more bright it is. Some people are eye sensitive to really bright lights and some people can ger oversimulated
- option to turn off fireworks
- option for reduced animations/lighting (for animations that are purely aesthetic like the pink lanterns in the forgotten ark)
- option to simplify/turn off the special effects for upgraded emotes
It's like the way your cosmetics reflect light. Like how you wear a red or white cape in daylight and can see some of the light bleed out around it and be white or redish tinge
A setting to disable camera auto movements (like the shaking or the auto pans during spirit relives, this week's live TS relive for example can make someone nauseous/sick), flashing, maybe even an auto-skip for cutscenes are the three I can think of on the top of my head. I know the last one isn't much of an accessibility setting, but it would be useful.
Making handholding stronger (to reduce the number of times people need to click)
Changing the “better with sound” sentence to something more inclusive like “may be better with sound”
I would have that thing on 24/7
option to turn sunset off (like at Home or Sanc)!!!!
personally I would like the option to opt out of deep calls and/or firework staff 
I’ll chime in on the sound question and say that iirc (?) the prompt is “sound is half the experience” which is actually worse
I'm basically with everyone else on the bloom thing, let us have the option of turning it off^^
And disable camera auto lock cause its nauseating
A way to disable camera auto movements would be nice. I'd also like sanctuary sunset end to gradually fade back to daylight instead of flashbanging me. Also an option to do dark transitions for loading. The bright white load screens hurt my eyes and I'd like them to fade to black.
- particle effects toggle
- emote sparkle effects toggle
- reflections toggle
and a general assist mode settings (making candle lighting automatic, for example)
It should be "use headphones to enhanced your experience"
OH THAT IS RIGHT. I REMEMBER THAT. It was something like "50% of the experience" wasn't it?
You probably have spoken this here a trillion times, but here it goes again:
Season of Shattering is VERY lackluster:
- The missions are repetitive;
- The rewards (new area) are not exciting;
- The crawling system is horrible at Eden;
- lack of lore involved.
Cosmetics are nice, though!
Anyway, i really don't know if it is possible to change the season schematics at this point
Omg that's so much worse than I remember
It’s more than half of the experience iirc
Dont forget, this season acts nothing as tgc said on the blogs being "prophecy like"
Yes, the prompt is of headphones that said "Sound is more than half the experience."
I honestly LOVE the new are and I go there just to look at the memories all the time. I feel like that'll be my new hangout spot lol
But I think the missions are soooo repetitive and bring nothing new after the first one, and I agree on the lack of lore. I expected so much more.
I posted a screenshot in #beta-screenshots-videos
Dang, thats straight up offensive. Thats like saying you cant have 50% of the experience because you dont have legs
(also automatic cutscene skip would be nice, because some of them lowkey jumpscare u)
I AGREE WITH YOU FULLY!
Instead of opt out of deep honks maybe instead they should have an option to turn the flash of deep honks off and show the radius of effect by making a circle appear around you that is like gray and on the ground. To show you will who will be impacted/recharged by the deep honks without the flashing. Same for other players too. You could just have circle/radius of effect and no flash.
That way we can still see and it's functional but more friendly to photosensitive people. Because the flash aura does have a purpose, but it could be more friendly.
I share your sentiment and views.
Season of accessibility features
If tgc made this season total 190 candles and have it run short then they could work on QOL stuff like this 
They already adjusted for older players, the more stars you have, the more you lose.
Plus, now it doesn’t actually matter if you go with a friend or not cuz once both of your lights are out, there’s nothing you can do about it
For me:
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I would like to see a flashing-lights toggle feature. Especially with things like the fireworks staff or Valley, it would be helpful for me to have an ability to turn off flashing lights and/or animation light effects.
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In general, some lighting toggles would be useful. This discussion has brought up bloom toggles, and feeling overwhelmed by bright colors... We got a sound toggle that allows us to toggle a few different levels of sound, and I think a lighting panel might be useful. I'd be interested to see these options:
• Bloom toggle
• Daylight on/off
• Color contrast slider
• Colorblindness toggles -
I would like to see a toggle for disabling automatic camera movements. The spinning can catch me off-guard and make me feel dizzy.
True regarding the lore. I stand correct.
However, even the Prophecy Trials were slightly different one from another.
My motion sickness with the camera moving is so bad. I wish they'd just let us disable so bad.
u know what i thought of
recharge animation toggle
these can go so fast sometimes, oh my god 
I sincerely hope that the better items more, and that future items will be added in the future because this season had to be one of the best, but it is much slower from my point of view.
it’s possible to tell by the eye icon/animation/sound when someone deep honks even without the large circle. imo anything that appears super rapidly/has potential to flicker like that would just be another hurdle, so I would prefer to just turn that light off entirely.
especially, I would like the mantas/fish to be included in the deep call mute. I use them in sanctuary and it’s esp bad to see three mantas deep call 50 times when I try to land u_u oop forgot reply
prophecy was provided as an example of gameplay oriented season rather than what the next season would be like. this is a criticism I'm never gonna be able to understand
I feel like the prophecy trials are a mixed bag. But I've seen legitimately every trial called somebody's favorite. When they didn't have many candles I thought they were perfect that way. (Specifically fire I hate fire so much I'm happy for the people that like it but I never wanna go ever again)
Maybe a reduce motion blur feature too?
Bro the sound thing should be more in the live feedback but dang that is quite 
I was only able to complete fire when I learned to glitch it. Lol
It was one of the first things I sent them as feedback two and a half years ago when I first started playing.
I also notice that, i feel like its easier to go 149 wl than 165 wl. Dont think its adjusted to how old your account is but how much stars you bring to the last area
I knew there was a “sound is part of the experience” thing but I didn’t think it was that blatant of “hey you really should listen to this lmao”
Regarding the wording of the opening: if it says "50%" or "more than 50%," I think that's some strange wording that could be changed. However, I think Derpyroot's wording up here isn't a bad idea as far as what it could be changed to — most hearing people wouldn't think twice about a wording like this, but there are special types of earbuds or speakers, per se, that are designed for deaf/HoH people and work by translating sound into tactile vibrations... So I think a wording like this could be a good idea.
Hehe yea, it’s just proportional to how old your account is because of TS
I mean yea, didnt mean to say prophecy location or theming.
More like "prophecy like" skill based season that isint rng or waiting
It's not even the flashiness of it for me. Dark to bright contrast like that can cause migraines for many people. The amount of times I had to end a CR early due to deep call spam making my GF get a migraine is too many to count... Especially in a dark realm like Vault or GW. (Yes, flashes are also bad for those sensitive to it, but how deep calls also affects others who are sensitive to drastic lighting changes is just as important)
“Sound is more than half of the experience”
I posted a screenshot
the audacity 
That is pretty much how I do it, although the light fire lamps first method is different from what we do, and we also use the left to right rotation method.
Also I didn't know jumping id that, I am going to try these methods next time.
So far I have been able to get 15ACs each time now because of how we do it, but I will def consider your suggestions and give them a try- perhaps we can use your tips to develop a better workable technique for our selves, at least till the next update releases and the recharge system and being downed in Eden take affect.
Pray for me I got like 6 bug reports to do
I see Shattering rocks are broken again
Jesus take the wheel. LOL
nope, they are in sanctuary
Mine are working, I just keep crashing before I can complete
Umara — I know you mentioned that you've had issues with the amount of button-pressing involved. Do you think that an auto-assist feature that would have your skykid automatically take out their candle if standing next to a candle or a dark plant could be helpful? Or do you think that would not work very well? I would be interested to hear your thoughts on it?
Oh I was in the wrong place then 💀💀💀

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yep, I find that almost everyone is bothered by the tendency for sudden lighting changes like that - but we put up with it to keep playing etc. I don’t really candle run in wasteland/vault partly because I’m forced to increase brightness so much, nevermind the candle/min aspect
#beta-discussion message this one
This is why I think Sky needs settings for how lighting looks. Desaturated versions of it
Agree, even playing on low brightness + eye comfort setting doesn't help
Alternatively, if you're on Android, you can get an app that changes the display to make less blue light. A night mode app of sorts, shouldn't break TOS because it only overlays a filter on the entire phone
And on iOS, the zoom accessibility settings has a darkening mode
