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I love your brain
No but now that you mention it I’m 100% needing a video of this 
Excuse me, When the next test?
I have a whole idea but I'm gonna shush now cuz I don't wanna get bonked
We don't know. It's random
thank you
Tell us 
I wanna hear the whole idea now
Spill it 🔫
Well, I did drop a memory candle to show it off at home near the coast ( comically small turtle ). That's the closest you'll probably get ( from me ) 
#wishlist-and-ideas-archived
, let's not get too carried away from beta
I mean we did already die in ||little prince final quest||, so why not again >:)
I don’t have beta access so I hope someone finds your candle and posts about it in #screenshots-and-videos 
Can't wait for that to come as IAP only
I have an eden season idea i wanna do someday…, I don’t think eden seasons need to be darkness themed to be good 
It's sad, it's painful, but that's still traditional death, and skykids do that often ( grinding AC )
But dying because of the leviathan is another story entirely

I believe it’s because of charity’s sake!
You can feedback about the prices as well! If you feel like the prices are slightly higher than usual.
Doesn’t Sky normally donate the money they get to nature-related charities in Days of Nature?
You can use temporary magic.
The sunset it’s BEAUTIFUL, told them to keep it like that forever
Yes, last years ocean cape I believe the money went to an ocean cleanup charity. The first year I think it went to something with forests?
How are ppl getting so many items from new season so quick
Same with Days of Rainbow too went to charity! I love that Sky helps out in those ways
Isn't the turtle accessory bundled with candles as well?
Edit: ok so that's why it costs more to get net revenue to charity
Global warming?
I assume the charity for this year is going to saving turtles. Probably donations to turtle sanctuary organizations
Yes! Maybe we get a cape with a tail?
The turtle cape does have flippers
The charity is for removing plastic in the oceans. Or was that just the old text?
Manta cape, turtle cape from water trial spirit, peeking post man cape and something else with a tail i dont remember
That was the old text , the charity for this year isn't finalized yet
Thank you. Same partnership as last years it seems? Sea turtles are often harmed by plastic, so I can see the connection.
I'm sure we will see a blog announcement about the official charity though.
I like to think that the Event Spirit is just a really big fan of turtles, and wanted to cosplay one. 
Like, where's the turtle's head? 
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
They like teenage mutant ninja turtles
It had a head I. The last build...not seen this one yet
At least skybot didn't use their "I ate it" quote in reply. 
Fight me irl m8
I will never not believe they are Timid Bookworm incognito 
I actually found like two random photos of ref for the hairstyle i was talking about >:D sadly i cant send here but if anyone wanna see, pm!
in the past, has the TS been the same in live and beta? Just so I could also prepare candles for beta TS haha
No, sometimes Beta has been behind or even something completely different for testing purposes. It has never been ahead of live however.
Rn theyre behind by several months but they should be the same
Ohh I see I see :0 That makes sense. Thank you! 
Next beta ts should be Jelly Whisperer but we might not get to see them again bc of a certain season guide showing up 
It's a bug, Abyss qg not an actual ts
that's the abyss guide, you can't unlock them because they don't have an emote
xd
I'm sad that they patched the bug where you could talk to everyone 
For first question the previous person's memory will disappear (I tried)
For second question, no
I'm sorry to bother you/n
Please read the patch notes in #beta-announcements
I kinda wish one of the masks had like a star design? As one of the spirit looks like a (pajama) jester but then again i heard the other masks are based of other penguins?
Please send that in #beta-feedback . We are not devs here. 
ok ser
The Abyss spirit on the TS pad, is that a bug? I don’t understand what it means by finding hidden memories.
On the first day of beta testing, there were a few photo collages of the masks compared to real penguins. If you want to scroll back that far. 
yes, the hidden memories thing just means you havent found their emote yet
the abyss guide doesnt have any emotes so their tree is inaccessible as a ts
Thank you so much! That makes perfect sense. Hopefully the TS still shows Thursday.
Abyss guide tried to be sneaky, didn’t want us to leave em yet
Isn't it there for us to test the teleporting?
Is there a way to make it go away yet? I saw someone say something about redoing quest 5 for abyss
Why do you want to make it go away?
maybe? but since you cant access their tree at homespace they're kinda useless 
Oh, I thought it was to test the teleporting thing, but I see now that it already works with the Performance QG.
And the Nature guide
Nope, the Abyss guide is still there even if I go into a realm or restart game.
I'm worried I won't get my jelly pants in beta

Try tapping on the ! above before going into a realm 
Did anyone check if the wl in shipwreck is back in this build?
Do you mean her season symbol? I think I did that, because I was looking for the teleporting thing.
I used the teleportation thing in nature guide's tree so that might've also caused them to disappear
I'll go check 🏃
Yes, it is still there, I went to his place and there was the 5th test, I did it again and when I returned the spirit had disappeared
Urgh, I really don’t like the fifth quest of Abyss.
I don't think it's related to that because i didn't do the quest
Nope, it's not there
i heard someone that said u can install the old build to get the penguin hair first t h e n install the latest version back
does that work😟
Nono, comes and goes even without doing the test
Hi ! Does anyone know what turtle sound that they added ? o.o Where we can listen to it ? 🤔
If you even able to download old version; it won't work as game will force you to update the game very first after opening
thats true
I hope they don't think removing that winged light entirely is a solution to it being OOB...
awh man then that means i needa get the cape first :’)))
or the mask cuz i forgor the order
I SHOULDNT HAVE PURCHASED THE VOID ITEM DHWHDHDH
Where is the penguin everyone is talking about plz
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
love the new ts

Shipwreck wl still missing
it's in an out of bounds windwall maze somewhere in the performance area
i think someone has a map you can follow in the beta screenshots channel
Ty
Maybe they brought back a qg as a just to stir the pot in the potential for past ultimates to return /j
I thought it was a teleport test too but no luck. Let's see if they stay after reset
I found no map and im still comfused
i guess you could ask someone to take you to the penguin suit in #beta-looking-for-group??
we only recently found it so there's bound to be at least one person who wants to see it and needs a table drive partner
and it's kind of hard to get there
Ima cry
Kind of? Incredibly hard to get there without friends or glitches 
Y'all are getting hype of the new season 
I'm here wondering when will the tier 2 black and white capes comes to live 
Proof sky light awaits is coming back because of these memory candles
When Invisible cape reaches live 
I'm just here wondering when the missing winged light will be back
I’m just here.
I'm glad
I kinda agree. The new shader overhaul reminds me of Light Awaits as well. Its so nice.
Thanks you for adding telport in guide season tree but i wonder if u add all spirt guide at home
So I heard there’s a sunset in sanctuary islands? When?
Every 10 minutes before 2 hours : starts at --:50 ( somebody correct me if I'm wrong 💦👄💦 )
Wait, so.... like if days of bloom is ongoing will the daily quest giver will teleport us to the tree?. Or do i need to go back to elementary and work on my English understanding ?
My understanding is if the event guide is also at Home, you could teleport to where they are in the realms. Any seasonal quest giver at Home would teleport you to their seasonal area
watch out TGC or the Veterans will cry for TS being an elder of the season
plz I don't like the new coral crown color🥲
The penguin hair looks like it got a well deserved wash 
Please stop with the antagonistic comments and assuming one player group has a specific mindset.

Think they meant @ this
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Hey everyone! Does beta have a fanart channel?
If you have design, drawings or anything that concerns beta, the only place to send pics of it is in #beta-screenshots-videos


I'm running out of storage to test this game, tgc you're welcome 😭
Why abyss guide want me to find her memory and what did i miss while i was reading update
@cobalt jacinth can I dm you? I found the source where TGC said they'll bring back some ult gifts. You might be still interested to see~
eh tib have mention in "about me" no cold pings
pretty sure it was in one of march's 2020 patch notes 
They didn't particularly said they will bring ult back but they are planning something regarding to it. They didn't clearly mention how and when.
well it's been 2 years so i'm pretty sure they had plenty of time to plan it out 
I'm not sure? Someone posted it for like 17 hrs ago
it was in march 10th 2020's patch note, just checked 
I see anyway it's not beta related, you can talk about it live channels if the source of information is from any of the official platforms of TGC
I didn't plan to talk about it in here, but in any case apologies

Hi^^ I just wanted to ask if the Nintendo bind works for beta ^^
Which binds work in Beta then?
Do you mean log-in ? I thought you meant if you could do beta on Switch, which you can't
However any of the sign in options should work
Thank you!
how much does the ts cost in total
We don't know
ou
Which ts do you mean ?
welcoming troupe
beta is actually behind schedule, so we have negative info about Troupe Greeter!
Here's price chart from previous visit
#seasons-events-chat message
By Clement
ohh okay thanks for letting me know
Troupee greeter is ts in live this week, so not suggesting to discuss here. But you can find any past ts from wiki page https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/Traveling_Spirits
The beta ts is the jellyfish one right?
@dense egret
The idea is not bad the candle being litterd everywhere is the problem 😔
I ate it 
At least Skybot is offering to clean up
Yes, if the ts schedule isn't changed then this will be jellyfish call
Is it fair for players in the rhythm season to change your graduation items into such items?Working hard every day.The result is to change almost the same hair?
My absolute favorite pants. Ty!
Making them confined to a shrine like notes is the best option
I find it hilarious we're getting the Environment Awareness event and beta is littered with candles, paper boats, paper cranes and lanterns.
but again, it's not happening with boats. why not put a limited number of them then 
I don’t really mind it, I think it’s cute… (might be a problem for this moth though) #sky-memes message
I want boats to be gone too they are a problem too💀
anyways it would be cool to use sm, for example, for showing the path to ts
It's all fun and games until a boat is placed just in a wl spot and bamboozles you 
The candle is cool and all but they are just everywhere now, boats were limited to just water so i think the candles need to get limited spots too
or limited number
Ik this will 100% make it to live and they are never going to do anything about it 🥲
I think just having specific spots to place em in is better
I suggested to be placed in Shared Spaces since at this point it feels like we're being force fed that feature plus home, just keeping the Return Shrine off limits
Why did they spend their time in developing this annoying ability to place them everywhere 😔
Return shine off limits for boats would be nice as well
Put in feedback
please someone remind me to send this to #live-feedback
What's the point when most people will use them for hearts
||i just want to spot a sm in oob coliseum while playing some melodies so others could vibe too||
,,,, sky ARG anyone?
OMG yes its so obnoxious when someone puts a boat there
- here is your reminder to put it in live feedback* XD
littered candles aren't new, they took measures to prevent them
Either remove the ability for them fo give hearts so people put them for their intended use
Hey sorry to bother but ive been flying around for this one quest, where is “Meditate at the end of the race?”
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
Woah, why are people disliking shared memories?
Read first
They are messy
shared memories has great potential for a wide array of applications, as a video maker I'm really excited for edits I can make with them! the ARG idea is really interesting as well, maybe someone will make a developing story that's told across multiple areas with candles leading from one candle to the next 
The feature is super cool the ability to place them everywhere is not so much
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
there is actually concept art of a lantern like device being able to record things, i'd actually prefer if it took on that look.... and limit its placement of course
(Also left live feedback about the boats in return shrine area btw XD )
They should 100% be kept, however, some form of limit needs to be applied to them from either having only a small amount appear in any spot or make em a bit price to get, the idea of just having a hard cap on how many can appear at once in any area is a good idea
The feature itself is very nice don't get me wrong, I love making up stories and the like and I'm seeing myself planning to use them.
The problem is that.. Well.. Can't help but the moment it reaches live, the realms potentially will be littered / trashed with skykids like
for the sake of a extra free heart
Maybe there should be a lower limit of memory candles that can appear on a server?
But the spells will cost candles so? Maybe the prices will be higher in live eventually? I also think there is a limit on the amount that can be in each area though…
That was always going to happen if there's a note-liking system attached to it, but I find the concept of memory candles much more engaging than something like a message/gratitude shrine -- those really feel quite outdated and pointless for my tastes personally
There's 1 free and 1 that costs 5 candles
I really love watching the memories over reading message shrines ngl
Maybe i've been playing for too long maybe these features are for new players 🧍♂️
:startsbeatboxing:
I seriously cant find the quest
Lunar it is in valley stadium
these feel more personal than message shrines
maybe players should not receive hearts from sm to decreace its count
Im looking there and flew everywhere possible.. or im blind
Or the amount of likes to receive a heart should be really bigger
Imma walk out before i rant more 😀 i'll leave a feedback after thinking about it later
🚪
sky tiktok moment
Umm how to explain. A bit lower than the skater memory
Oh yeah, I prefer the memory candles over the message shrines. Perhaps I'm just like Yash, despite being a sanc moth the new stuff is getting harder to simply accept 
Tell me more, I am intrigued XD
nah, won't work. 1k+ likes is not rare in live
a part of the fun would be finding the candle I guess
I wonder how recording memories with multiple people would even work
TGC created a social media platform in their game 
Ahhh XD yes! Omg this could go places XD
Yeah im blind
i dont see it anywhere
Imagine if we could have trending candles XD
i hope they pretty up the candles a bit or make them more interesting. rn they just look like regular white candles
Yeah a hard cap of about 4-5 to appear at once in each area would tidy things up
What if they were blue 👀
Lunar maybe ask in questions and help since it is also live quest, I’m sure there is a guide from clement
or, if they seem littery to you, sm candles should be reduced in size 
Nooo… then I will join the anti-clutter people XD
I’m so frustrated. I’ve spent so much time in sanctuary during the creature appearance and sunset and I can’t find it. Went everywhere in the 10 minutes.
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
I was thinking about it, i think it would be nice if the candles were kinda "transparent", looking just like the spirit form in the spirit memories when we are reliving it so it doesn't affects the view too much
I think it's possible like hide and seek feature, you can participate when the host starts it , but host can remove players as well 
tikskys
I think the candles around the map is fine as long they can restrict it not to be placed near other interactive objects like candles , to avoid annoying overlapping
Other wise creativity is restricted , cannot record in oobs and stuff
OWL HAIR IS REAL
I also suggest some placement restrictions on my feedback since I saw some put them near wax candles which will make cr a tad difficult 💀
hmm. that could work!
dumb idea but maybe with a group of people we could create our own candle cakes 
oob is love, oob is life 
I was gonna say, you can try syncing recordings with your friends, but then I remembered you can only watch one memory at a time
Hi!!!
let's not underestimate the creativity of this huge playerbase, I'm sure there will pop up really fun and unexpected ways to use the feature even if it's only for recording one person
for one it has great potential for screenshots and videos
Wdym you can't-? Got to place a memory candle in Valley's oob

Guys I just saw the guide of Season of Abyss in for TS on beta , does that mean we can buy Ults now ?
hey is the new memory feature like the boat that it is only visible after 3 friends like it?
Seasonal Pendants and Ultimate Gifts will not appear on the Traveling Spirits in exchange for in-game currency. We plan to bring these items back in another capacity but we have not settled on what that will look like or the costs associated with it.
What does the Guide coming back as TS give then ? What have you earned from her so far?
It's still early development , I'm sure with feedback this feature improves over time
i think maybe its because tgc is working on bringing ults back, that could also maybe be why there was the glitch in live where you could buy past ults
I feel like Sky at this rate could become a part of Metaverse
This is not related to ults returning
Seasonal Pendants and Ultimate Gifts will not appear on the Traveling Spirits in exchange for in-game currency. We plan to bring these items back in another capacity but we have not settled on what that will look like or the costs associated with it.
http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
Let's not forget THAT was a bug and cause a rollback in live 2-3 days later
& what the hell is a Metaverse?
Nft nonsense
its not on any spirit and you cant buy it for ingame currancy 
As much as I dont mind new players having ults , I know it will be unfair if you can just get it buying out a single spirit unlike playing an entire season .
i think its kind of a big coincidence that both these bugs happened close together so im just guessing
It's their money plus I'm pretty sure some moths back in rhythm also bought the season rather than "working hard" for it ingame wise
New idea of Zucc to incorporate VR elements into one central online megaplatform which caused Facebook to lose 250B in a matter of days
Cool
Although the penguin hair was moved to last node, so newer players will be working just as hard as we did back then, so I don’t understand
Especially with the hiked price of seasons, Rhythm back then was the total of 330 compared to Flight & Abyss
@kindred fossil, TS prices are not announced until it arrives. Any prices you see before the spirit is in-game is misinformation and should not be shared.
WL means winged light! The stars you collect by finding the shiny kids!
Its a guess not misinformation
Ignore it
The current total of Performance roughly clocks around 380+
my vet friend told me she joined belonging midway through and bought pass and still got everything
that would never be possible with todays sc prices 
is it safe to buy a UG but it still has the WIP logo?
350 total, Flight was around 380+ iirc
In live its about 25 days left and I think I need 30 more candles to wrap it up
WIPs are safe
It is true, despite not getting the Belonging ult, I still bought out all spirits when I was gifted the pass halfway through the season
Only possible for abyss maybe
First ult is now mask
When was the last time we had an instrument as ult? Probably Assembly
Before that, Sanctuary?
I rly don't like instruments as ug
Prophecy
What was it? I played Prof
until now, ive only used handpan as a turtle shell.
Dang i was gonna get the owl hair first but i was too late
If you’re on iOS, you can revert to the first build
Music is part of gameplay and not just cosmetics i think instruments being locked as ug kinda sad for f2p
I think update is forced already
Ohh, i did but when i did it said “Theres a new update!”
Wait I remember , it was that strange drum in Prophecy as ult
F 😔
i think we need to factor the cost to design and sample an instrument in the game, hence they are AP locked
Nah if we don't play its just a dead game
Has anyone played the new season guiter here? How does sound?
really good , you can hold down the notes too
#beta-screenshots-videos message here's a sample of someone playing it
the guitar is pretty nice although i'd like it if it sounds more metal
mick gordon levels of metal
I'm not keep talking about this matter its not beta related
actually that would be really cool if you can connect the electric guitar at the performance stage to change the sound
yes.
Oh it would be nice 
its already diamond powered, damn thing is floating on its own
argent energy
the guitar is already so powerful at this form imo, the echo allows some otherworldly music
is this seasons ult hair the same as one of the old season ?-> 
How to get the TS today? I cant find the Guids memories
Can’t wait for more diamond powered items, like a diamond powered flamethrower
You can view this comparison between both versions: #beta-screenshots-videos message
it looks super similar but it's different, idk if that makes sense but i know it's fluffier

where are the beta invites?
#beta-signup-info here
what do you mean?
Guys where do you buy the electric guitar?
I found it
If you wanna get PINGed for next BETA Invite, go to #beta-faq and react to apply
The top spirit of list
WHY
Why what?
oh a vet
run
Eh? :D
i wanna ask how to update beta version?
Do you have BETA app on yours?
ah i already got the solution... only have to update it from play store haha
How to get the beta version
How do I join Beta? (Read Skybot Message)
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
How many hearts to complete Vault constellation? 
1k+
Just vault itself is like, i wanna say 160 hearts?
Can I? Cause tier 2 white cape is 150 hearts
U dont need to get tier 2 for complete constellation
So I enough hearts to get invisible cape, I have 1k4 hearts rn
Ye ig. Invi cost 999 so u ll be ok if u have 1200
BRO- THE URGE TO SAY MY OPINION IN #beta-screenshots-videos BUT THE COOLDOWN IS MASSIVE
HELP MY SANITY 😭
I have 150 hearts 😔 plus I didn’t completed its constellation only 90%
Hello! I have a little question, when does the sunset on sanctuary islands apears?
5 minutes after Grandma party end
what in the world is happening here...
LMAO
You’re not supposed to have conversations in there. Ping the person and continue the convo in #beta-season-test-chat

Oooohh thank you!!
Yeah I noticed this is the wrong channel PFFT
I thought this is the season test and confused why it's so quiet until I realized this is the beta discussion 💀
is the upcoming blue rhythm pants that one Super Popular one that Everyone wears? 
i'm wondering why my brother can get the beta and i can't TvT i want too
Read #beta-faq
No, that was juggler pants. The ts already was here a few months ago both in live and in beta. In beta it came twice
FACTS: Juggler came before Little Prince season ends
A way you can get beta is test by installing beta with their email and signing on with your own 
Maybe your brother managed to snag an invite?
when is the next beta wave 😢
we don't know
😭😭 I’m so hurt
Beta is not for fun, it's for bughunt. In the meantime you wait you're free to play and bugreport live version. :) The next wave comes when they need more active testers. Currently beta is very active, I can confirm
It’s the most active that it’s ever been
Though I hope they remove all the hackers we’ve been reporting which will free up some space for legit testers
because tcg is slayin' with these new seasons so i get why people are more active on beta rn
Can confirm, I saw one other person in the 8 gate. That’s the most I’ve ever seen!
i remmeber not being able to complete any assembly quest because there was like
no one at all
Exactly
and the first quest with a broken piece inside of the ground too oof...
As for the invitation, it seems that Tan will refresh every five or six days?
i think i've only found one game breaking bug
but its one of those that happen once in a blue moon 
also please can we raise the awareness that reverb is missing in both beta and live builds? 
If you’re talking about beta invites, they happen 3-4 times a year nowadays
Gone are the days when we had 3 invite waves per cycle and the cycles happened every season
A reverb of what?
cave reverb, like in places like the wasteland end temple before vault
some vault places like the pray spirit and 4th level the reverb is simply gone
That's a long time. And will you be notified when you invite?
You can check out #beta-faq for all the relevant information on how to join beta. Plus this handy bot message.
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Read #beta-faq and get the invites role
Thank you.
also here if you want a good example of what reverb did https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_Zflr8tVz0
OMG WHAT ITS GONE??
you don't hear the lack of echo in the instrument?
I hear the difference, I mean the echo is gone
That’s not acceptable! I loved those places for the echo
Screw Rhythm... All of my homies play Performance

Rhythm guide crying rn
Nah we still love them
I never did ❤️
Hi I'm the only one that I can't open the game?
You’re on Android 8?
yes
its a known issue, theyre currently working on a fix for android 8 crashing 
Haha 🥴
Rhythm, dreams and prophecy guiders... Are crying rn
If ths hair was scrapped and replaced with an actual owl hair clone I'd be pretty upset 
I think some don't realize many like this design specifically, not just because it pays tribute to 
Yeah, it's definitely not good to recycle the design completely...
Meh, I mean... It's okay, if everyone wants to enjoy the cosmetics and everything. Well, I think ya guys should be fine
I was never crazy about the sleekness of it 
Cuz... I mean, being egoist isn't the solution
Anyways, ya guys had the original versions, that continues being exclusive.
Look, Just because rhythm hair is only for ios
you need to give the opportunity with the android and switch for this performance ult hair
Hmmm... True
I like the penguin hair better because it's closer to my hair. So I really love it a lot.
plus I've been wanting more hairs with shorter ponytails.
give the other platforms a chance to get this exact feels to have that hair
Rhythm Veterans dont even need to be salty
We still get the old feels in the future, like right now
Veterans help, not argue that the current season has the same aspect
True, the same was happening when the juggler and Dismiss came. I mean... I understand the problem, but... I think it's okay
After all... It's just a game
I'm an Light-seekers vet, but... I'm totally okay with all of that. Just want to see the new players enjoying the game
I understand both sides if I'm honest, but I still love the current hair. Especially the fluff 
True
I mean, you get a lightseeker umbrella spell from an irl umbrella, people didnt get mad about it
I'm not a vet, not even close to it but it might be because the umbrella was so expensive that only a very few people have it
Next up, owl hair cosplay wig with a star pin feature 
if I was a veteran, I give it a pass for the people
about the Owl Hair 1.0
You see, Rhythm Hair is like ironed
while performance hair is perfect
i love the new update of owl hair 2.0, i hope it wont change + who has got original owl hair doesnt need to get annoyed(?) both of these hairstyles look very sick and i wouldnt like if owl hair 2.0 becomes rapunzel hair :/
When i see candles out of all place on land, i remember sky light await... Man..
Feel you
Guys, LETS FINISH THE DISCUSSION RN: OWL 2.0 OR PINGUIN HAIR
Owlguin
Ultimate gift has become a popularity control, where an item that is exclusive to a season should not be shared with new players, it should be the opposite,
Anyway, that's enough and we're all going to share what the game has to offer, enough exclusivity
🐧
Owlguin
the arguing about the ults is never going to end honestly. And its gonna be 10x worse when it hits live 
Fact ^
Just wait and see when TGC brings an umbrella like the Lightseeker.
it will be the same
I'm so stressed over owl hair now. I hope tgc don't remove the main things from it
Okay I'm gonna make an opinion here, but I think they made a good choice to move the penguin hair up to the last node. This gives those peoole who hate the hair, a chance to skip out on it since they feel it's too similar. I remember one mentioned they wanted the other ults rather than the hair. So now, instead they can save on a heart
Ultimate is the only thing veterans are proud of. But you're telling me to hurt those prides. Let's not talk about equality. just sympathy You don't have one yet
Weren’t people talking about how they wanted owl hair and how it was so cool 
I just seen people saying FACTS

Wait, they moved penguin hair to last node ?
I never thought about it like that, but I agree!
Never thought about it that way 
glad I bought it before update
How are you guys getting the ult items already??
Ah...i remind of abyss oxygen mask's bad change
What if i bought it before update ? That mean I'm not able to get other one ?
Welcome to sky, PFFF FJWJSJSJSJSHAHHSA
I can say I've been playing since the rhythm season, but I wouldn't rub it in the face of others that I play in a certain season or that I have a rare item, I always wear the same look as always
All they had to do was make it less jiggly and then they changed the whole design 
I think the remake should be made free at least that way the originals stay unique and special as ultimates never returning, and the players that wish for those designs can at least get the remade version eventually in a travelling spirit. But keeping both designs ultimate just keeps the debates going, imo.
Wow I did not think about it like this yet
an amazing way of thinking about it 
Also i think it might be a little more fair since Owl hair was the last UG of rhythm
If your upset about a video game hairstyle you might have other things to worry about. Anyways I came to ask does anyone know where the meditation spot is today?
Anyway, veterans have a good reputation for having Ultimate gifts from past seasons but a bad reputation for being arrogant and not wanting TGC to re-release Ultimate Gifts again even though they are paid
That's why they're pretty hateful in case anyone doesn't know.
i think they moved it to the last node just to get more feedback on the other ults since the hair is all people keep talking about 
So at least they can’t complain about new people having it easier
they literally have the original ones :/
Seriously, I love this season’s ult mask so much. I wish more people were talking about it 
What about the tailcoat? It needs more love too!
Deep down, veterans don't like new players, they pretend to like it but not everyone is like that.
continue like that Is it his right to wear anything? apparently Respect for others, you don't have.
Is the abyss guide TS a bug
I think its mostly cool but i wish the mask was a little more sharp? The beak’s shape feels a little…. Clumsy? Idk
I'm bad at describing locations. I could take you there though?
Sure I can send you a QR code in dms
The problem is they don't want others to dress like them.
They want the charm exclusively for them and that's a fact.
I think its funny that some rythm people are against re-release of an hair, as the season of rythm itself is a re-release of the past winter season
I'm not judging anyone. I definitely don't like you hahahaha
I do feel the ult mask is.. Missing something. I can't put my finger on it yet.
I just don’t vibe w the inside color of the coat aaaa. Maybe if it was more purpley like the dance spirits shirt???? The bottom part
I am absolutely done with this chat after being accused of disliking new players
I’d love to see people redesign it! Because I agree. As much as I love the general idea of it, I do think it needs a little more something 
Screw pinguin hair, all of my homies wear the cat hoodie 
It is a bit unfair that the first, what four seasons of sky were literally unavailable for all android players to begin with. That's kind of something to think about too here. We couldn't even access the game even if we knew about it at the time.
I'll include it in my redesign ult batch and ship it off to #beta-feedback when I settle on a good design
lemme say this then we can end the chat about comparing both of the hairs and im heading to bed.
- Vets who is okay or not okay with the same UG but different looks:
Give the other platforms a chance to get the same feeling
2: This is Sky, a chill, calm and friendly game, not a competition who got the oldest UG.
- TGC is trying their best to plan future seasons, so be supportive at them.
Anyway, I hope TGC continues like this, bring items from past seasons in a redesign, I'm waiting for Deer mask
No no In such a way that everyone spends money on the same Adventure Pass. But there was a group of people who got new items. and the other group got items that were close to the old ones. Is it equality? Don't tell me it's good, you get two. because it's almost no different You might tell me that the previous season's hairstyles also had similar hairstyles. But this is the ultimate hairstyle. I've been looking at the Spirit Season stuff for free ever since the travel system came in. So please make what is called untimate, not sell a pup like this.
Maybe a gold or red lining around the bottom of the beak?
THIS.
And even more seasons unavailable for switch players 
Lightseekers umbrella
funnee
Same I also don't see it an a final result. But that's beta so its meant to undergo changes. We'll see 👀
Whatever happens happens
Remember to leave positive/constructive feedback at #beta-feedback !
I'd love a redesign of anubis! I can twin with new players 
i mean, you get the performance mask
Floppy dog ear mask please 👀
What if it was like the concept art masks? There was one that looked REALLY similar to the anubis mask minus the halo
imagine if they’ll create another mask of an egyptian god
But the halo was the cool part
either way, it would be awesome
Maybe we can get another anubis mask and the halo as an acessory, both of them separated 
I just crave the mask from concept art!
Tbh i like the mask for the. Animal part
but the halo is a cool touch!
I NEED A CLOWN MASK, PLS TGC
I just want a halo 
I want the eden crown to return :0
your scaring people

you are not a clown, you are the entire circus /ref
QHAHSHAHA YES ||so do i||
Hey clown! Jester, you have done it again!
Ooo a circus season

long for forest mama's old concept design mask
Juggler pants is basically clown pants if you think abt it. Douyin makers w their rhythm pants exposed as clowns
Time for begging the TGC workers... We need an Circus season

If you're mentioning TGC giving Ultimate gift for free, know that this was In beta
And in Beta it's not like in global, everything in Beta is released for testing, global and everything paid and at your own expense, And idai if tgc did an almost similar hairstyle, it proves that she cares about current players, and since it is not possible to sell Ultimate gifts now, she is trying somehow Helping current players have past cosmetics in current seasons, and that will definitely work out when the season actually launches into Global, and everyone leaves happy.
And I'm sorry for the text size I made 
But... What about a mask? 
Fyi, season of rhythm was telling about a Circus
Would rhythm ult mask be the equivalent of sky clown makeup, maybe? Bloom guide and dreams guide are secretly clowns

A big red nose that honks when you press it
dude YES id eat that uo
True
I
NEED
THAT
MASKKKKKKK
🤡 
beautiful
CLOWN MASK, CLOWN MASK or...
CLOWN CALL

In the end, this season will be a success and TGc will profit from the hair
isn't Rhythm season a Circus
Troupe Greeter who greets people at the circus gate
Spin Dancer who is the dancer
Blowkiss is the beloved people at the circus
Juggler is well... Juggler
Respectful Pianist is the Pianist
Thoughtful Director is the vice director of the circus
while Rhythm guide is the Ring Master
Still waiting on a krill call 
maybe it is but I just wanted to make a little silly
for discussion about previous seasons and season ideas, #seasons-events-chat is the place yall
it's a fact according to you, i think it's complete nonsense
if I had the opportunity to share my cosmetics and ult gifts with another player I gladly would. it's not like every single veteran/old player dislikes newer players, that's just wrong
Thanks guys
Now I am imagining a group of clowns clowning around instead of traveling performers
"1 random TS ends"
tGC: let's give the Sky Kids 382837933792738483389384 events for spend all of them candols- 
I mean theres 3 veterans
the good, the salty and inactive
A krill call would probably sound like
I don't think they mean you, de. I think they were talking about the ones who are upset with penguin hair. I'm an android vet who also would love to see some of my favorite ults return too.
I am fine
Currently holding 328 candles and I am hesitant to buy the greeter pants since I already have actor and juggler pants
I’m 80% sure crab call uses the 5 notes that aren’t part of the current key so krill call would probably be like that
Same, but... I need to collect items 
Problems of being afk for 2 seasons or 3, xd
this old/new discussion is getting tiring, a player is a player regardless of the cosmetics they're wearing or how long they have played sky, im sick of getting blamed for something i am actually not advocating for
I dunno if itd sound good
only time will tell. I’d like a butterfly call at some point!
Yeah, when most people are talking about “salty veterans” they are not saying all veterans are salty, they’re talking about the salty ones 
This is why I said theres 3 kinds of Veterans
Good evening
Do I count as a vet?
I am a dream moth 
Imagine a collaboration of SKY X DARK SOULS 
most veterans are like that, some would even sue TGC if she brought the Ultimate gift back

Please stop saying most vets.
Oh boy can't wait for the season guide to call me maidenless before starting the first quest 
I’ve seen more veterans excited for this new hair than ones that aren’t. The salty ones are just a loud minority.
- STARTS KILLING THE GUIDE FIRST *
SOME vets are like that. I’ve met many veterans who aren’t at all like these “most vets” you’re describing.
Not really. A vast majority of people aren't like that. All of my friends, who are vets, are not like that. The only people I've actually encountered who are like that, are those very few people upset in this chat about penguin hair
I swear this controversy will grow till the season goes to live
Like, LETS STOP, Enjoy other people with the same feeling
“Veteran” is a subjective term. Some people use it based on experience, others with how long they’ve been on Sky, with varying time frames
New season hairstyle?
i am done, there is literally zero use in discussing with this person or discussing in this chat
And what the old players have done, they must feel like they're paying twice as much for a very similar ultimate gift, I know Dev is interested in new players but old players are important. Aren't they the same, the main sponsors are the old players who supported them from the very beginning of the game, they deserve justice.
Owl hair without grease hehe
So you're going to say that the person who came before doesn't have any rights because of you? So let's go back before the game is open for Android to play. Who does the developer get funding from? Of course they were veterans, but what happened was When the game has been around for a long time, no one cares that it will come here because of the support group. Some new players who didn't look forward but turned back and said I wanted that too.
Old players are not important just because they found out about sky sooner
Being a vet it's boring...
*Decide to erase her account and start as a moth again * 
If vet means pouring time into the game and grinding i would’ve been a vet a long time ago and im only abt a year old in Sky
its kind of an arbitrary term in a way
Oh no, I thought after what Von said the argument would cool down and stop 
I am sad to say this
The new ult mask looks better than the phoenix mask 
We're all moths inside 
Idk maybe I like the darker color scheme
I like them both personally!!
I’m just a buff moth 
I agree because it’s more my style, but I still absolutely love the phoenix mask!
We're just moths with color. So butterflies
But I’ve always worn weasel, it is like glue
Guy do you know where is the penguin call ?
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
I swear most of Skykids have these goal:
Be tall
Rhythm Pants
White/Black Cape
Faceless
I worry they would have a hard time making a case for that in a court, especially if ults returning still costed money (which they would) 
Plus it’s such a small thing I don’t think it would go very far either
Yeah..
I mean I might still use my phoenix mask because of the cape
And?
Maybe the devs can include a secret special node for whoever owning rhythm pendant, maybe compensating them with extra extra candles or hearts for buying this new season AP and unlocking the hair ult.
If that could apeace them.
I hope for min height
My only goal was tall because I’m really short irl 
I hope to look like a rich sky mom
I am not like the other sky kids
I use shattered mask instead of faceless 
They don’t owe vets anything just because they loudly complain
I still like the Phoenix mask more, but something about the performance mask is just missing something. Hopefully I'll love it more as they continue to polish up the season
Maybe its a bit small
Idk
please be careful not to generalize too much, and not to insult each other. generalizing about "vets" tends to make this argument more entrenched. I've been playing a long time and I personally don't feel that new items similar to ults I've had for a long time will do me any harm at all. And I accept that some don't like that idea. In the end, it's TGC's game and they will decide based on more than what happens in conversation here.
I also suggest that nobody talk about the idea of ultimate gifts with the intention of changing anyone's mind: many who express opinions about it are not looking for reasons to think about it differently and may have a different enough perspective that they won't agree with you readily.
Reject tall maskless, return to short creature
Oh Alex beat me to it hh
Cackling mask is better than faceless

that's the "good" part of having time limited items ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Second this, but maybe I’m biased because I want the Phoenix mask so much 
I love the new ult mask, but I think I might just prefer the dark red and gold rather than dark blue and gold 
Veterans just want something new. And do you think veterans would want a candle or a heart? (Most veterans have candles and thousands of hearts.)
Return to weasel!
Man i love to have really short height in game. There are some glitches on available for short height.
This season offers plenty of new!
i can't get enough of that cat hood
I like switching between both out of random. Some days I feel like being tall, some days I wanna be smol
And the two other ult gifts are so cool 
THE CAPES ARE AMAZING
Chefs kiss
GUITAR! 
This would literally be not fair, players are players it doesn't matter how long they have been playing. As a vet I'm honestly so excited to get that penguin hair.
The guitar is killer 🤘
I love the quest that lets you drag the season spirits around. I stopped after picking up all 4 of them and flew around, danced, emoted just to make the wibbly wobbly stagehand jiggle
Opinions on the jester cape?
I love the reddish-purple pants so much. They're so cute 
I really like the ultimate mask! It’s been a while since our last fancy animal mask
I think this is the first time actually felt feral excitement foaming at the mouth hype for a season
Very cute. I like the hero cape look, while still being fairy tale-like
Yess I did the same 
Has anyone tried to drag them to penguin suit?
Whatever they choose to do there will be some people upset about it. They try their best to make decisions that are fair for everyone involved and sometimes that includes some people being upset.
it’s just unfortunate I am sorry about this issue
I wish they would let us pick the spirits up other places too
We always help the spirits fix their realms, surely they could spare 5 minutes to be dragged around by a tiny Sky kid 
Its a good design but im nonchalant about it
It is really cute yes 
I'm also excited by just small amounts of new interactions we're given with spirits, like the ones in the audience. makes the world feel more alive
a friend did
pingu with the gang
Awee reading all of these makes me can't wait to play beta soon, when the fix came in i hope 
It is
But I loan for the scarf cape 
Well it gives good recharge when doing the maze. I might actually do this and test it out
Postman’s one of my favorite spirits I was so happy to see them appear in the crowd 
hey man it's all good at the end of the day no matter what "side" you're on, we all love sky right? let's have some fun with that 
I made some alterations to it and sent it as feedback, but I'ma clean the sketch up before I posted it again
Imagine a season within a season like
Performance on Dreams Village
I really like the scarf cape, its good for the people who missed out on the prince scarf 
Prince scarf wishes it looked like that cape lol
true, but its red TwT
It means that the old players who have been playing for almost 3 years are just unfair players?
Ngl the jester is probably my least favorite spirit, not that it's bad, I just see myself not wearing the cosmetics as much. But idk, maybe I'll unlock them and love them
Then what can the devs do, to satisfy new players and old players? There must something where both parties can meet.
Imo, old players doesn't get exact copy of rhythm season cosmetics, this season items are very different from rhythm. Only one hair looks similar. 🤔
Im gonna be arbitrary,its better than prince scarf
True journey cape
True journey cape
True journey cape
but the cape I manifest
Yes I'm very happy to have a small seasonal area. (I've played live since enchantment)
I bet its works really well with chibis tho
This seems like a great compromise to me so far
They can't do anything, the two sides are always going to clash as long as items are only available for a specific amount of time
Omg you're right. I gotta see how it looks on chibi now
maybe that'll change my mind 
I am still waiting for the change hoping for the red scarf to be free 
the Jester cape is amazing
it has the same beta Assembly cape feels
like a tied blanket
I doubt much is changing with this ult hair, and there’s always going to be arguing. I say we just move on and realize that this is just a game, and we don’t have to spend money on it if we don’t want to. Now let’s talk about cat hood 
Cat hood supremacy
Oneshot cosplay time 
I made friends who just wanted to run around the realm and meet more tiny cat friends
Tbh, Theres a 50/50 Chance I dont like the jester cape because its red which is my disliked color
But thansk to flight ult pants, It gives me the opportunity to wear red for good outfit combination
I thought you said Cat food
So is the ult pants like the jack of all traits?
Just a PSA, sunset in 31 min and you can tp there using the turtle spirit at home
lemme show you what I mean via #beta-screenshots-videos with Beta and Live
So just to clarify, I was always confused on turtle time, is it at the 50 min mark of every hour? Or every 2 hours?
It’s every two hours, 5 min after grandma
Wow your right 
OK thanks. That's a lot more helpful lol
It might be okay with the light whisperer pants as well
I like wearing flight ult pants with as little of a cape as possible. But I have weird taste in cosmetics 
I ahd that same feels when I manifest the Asteroid jacket
Which I didnt get it since I dont usually wear it
I got the asteroid cape, but I made some pretty cute outfits for it. I don't really use the functionality of it a lot, but I should go to asteroid area more often
The empty black void with no one else around is kinda scary tbh
I agree, it’s pretty to just see all the feathery flaps moving when you fly
There is some crash problem come to some android phons and the game with me not open from more 35 day i think i do rebort about it from along time and theas updates come without fix it... why...(i can't play the game)
Is this a beta issue
If its not it better you go to another channel
Also it's a known issue, quite sure tcg will provide some sort of compensation
It's in the live known issue pretty much! It has been like that since beta bloom event testing :> gotta be a lil bit patient for the fix 

is the beta ts just a surprise every ts thursday? or is it announced before lol
Sometimes it's in sync with live, sometimes it's behind, sometimes it's totally different for testing purposes, we won't know till one shows up next reset, or if the abyss guide decides to stick around 
ultimate gift ts
/j
oh i see! thanks lol
Anyone know what’s the deal with the Abyss guide being in home? 
Bug...
||Or no||
Hmmmm
Abyss guide at the ts spot? it's for the season teleporting update, I thiiiiink??
You can't teleport with them
then it could be a bug??? or no
It's most likely a bug
she was lonely 😔
Guys I'm sorry for being hasty but do you know when the next season will be out? 
!omgomgwhen
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
does anyone know if the firework staff can be used while doing a memory candle?
Next season in beta will probably be out in 2-3 months. New season in live will probably start 2 weeks after the current season ends
yes, but not really - you can record yourself flinging fireworks but you'll just show as standing still with the staff in the recording
Talking about performance, and thanks!
The amount of gift passes sitting in our inventories is bugging me so hard. Next season, instead of getting it ourselves, we should just gift them to each other next season
i have about 13k passes, i don't think gifting some to my friends would do much lmao
This new candle memory testing is melding into my elden ring playthrough, seeing all the spirits running around 
i still can't quite figure out how to use them 💀 i once followed someone's shared memory in hopes of clicking on them LMAO it will sure take a while until we get used to it
Did anyone get a "no authentication info" error? I'm on android, updated just now but unable to cross loading screen
Just checking here since I've been in sanctuary with the turtle guide 5 mins after grandma but all I could see was some wax floating around mainly underwater. I could see skykids jumping on something that was invisible from my POV which I'm guessing is the big shell. A friend's guess is that maybe android players can't see the event? Or maybe is there something we need to do to trigger it? Including sunset and the turtle too
Go there after the event starts. You can use the turtle guide at home to tp there
Thank you! That's definitely it since both times I've tried I was there beforehand (my friend tped to me soon after it started and couldn't see it either though, but I'll try
)
Wow, ppl here are so lucky to play on beta, I've been waiting for so long for the invite 
Wearing the owl hair from the new season
for sure makes u feel cool and satisfied

I feel so funky with the hair
i think i might have over 60k 💀 
But still cool tho
Ye, that's what I meant 
oof i got censored
i said i feel like a bug with my funny little antennas
A A the update on the penguin hair is nice
I feel ur pain, i cannot join beta even if i wanted to 😭 switch pain
Haha, but yeah the owl hair was the must wanted hair, that's why he came back in the season of performance
Could someone share more details with me on where the sanctuary ravine with the new creature is? I’ve been all over looking when it’s sunset and still can’t find. Shhhhh bot. Lol
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
Omg this so sad

I've I connot play Sky either Android users have an issues with log in
So my pain is doubled 💀
oh yeah 😭
Dang can’t wait to be double the owl on live when this season comes to global!
I had a similar thing except that it said that "Sky has stopped".
Shiny bois?
Or winged light?
oh theres wl in the new area? how long has it been there lol
I have found one location so far for new wings in the performance theater. Reminder that location is subject to change
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Why does the turtle cape look like a straight up dead turtle that got hit by a boat
I refreshed cache and restarted app it worked
weren't you the one who wanted the Performance hair to be completely removed because it was owl hair 2.0?
Can someone send me the updated owl 2.0 in comparison with the old rhythm hair from beta cuz I’m not in beta lol
You can search for it in #beta-screenshots-videos
I asked but I don’t think people saw it so I was wondering here if someone could send
Just type "Voi's beta archive" in the search option for the channel
Let me try but I doubt it'll work
weren’t u rude to people the other day and told someone to cry about it more bc they said vets already had other ults and stuff
For which channel?
It didn't work
Thanks
It’s not selfish lol. They worked for it. And having something similar to newer players, can be upsetting
Also why is abyss guide at home
isn't it the same for new players? they also work for the new ult
The new players are gonna work for the new ult too
the only difference is the timing
Yes, read the 2nd part of what I said
There's still 2 other new and more unique ults to get
Exactly but I’m not talking about that
so basically, new players are not allowed to get something that resembles the old ult because it's upsetting
Never said that ❤️ literally just explained why some people with owl, find it upsetting, from my owl friends telling me why they do
I could see why the hair could be unexciting to people who already have the rhythm ult, but again there's still 2 others that are new and unique, I wouldn't let 1 out of 3 of the new ultimates ruin it all 
good for you for having that view. But I’m specifically speaking about the hair, because that’s what my friends have told me. Personally, I don’t care
I don't think they dislike the season overall, just the thought of newer players getting an old cosmetics that they have
That’s what I’m saying lol
if they dislike people getting cosmetics that they also have, they might aswell dislike TS systems overall, and past days of ___ events because they bring back items
Yeah cool. Anyways why is abyss guide in home space
that also divides the community and is actually not the game is supposed to lean towards to
The traveling spirit that was at home , was it only there for us to test the last quest of that season again ? It was gone after completing the quest. Btw , the quest took about 10 percent of my iPads power 😑
Guessing it's a bug, or maybe a new feature that hasn't been fully implemented yet, but I'm gonna assume more bug
Yeah I did the quest and it disappeared. But now it’s back lol
imagine if QGs becomes TS

eh they wouldn't do that, if you mean them coming back and selling their items for ingame currency. iirc TGC's said that when/if ults return it wouldn't be in the TS format
It let me replay the last quest , then afterwards the spirit was gone at home , doesn’t seem much like a bug to me 🤔 more like a test for that quest. It’s too early for traveling spirit either way
I'm just humoring the thought
and yes, I agree
in before the TS don't arrive because Abyss QG took it's place 
Oh yeah , after logging back in , it’s back again 😂
I'll be so sad I've been waiting for jelly in beta 
Also the qg kinda just randomly shows up and leaves though for me. Sometimes she's in homespace, sometimes she's not. It doesn't seem to be connected to the quest
Yeah I’m just chilling at home and she’s gone now again lol
inb4 it's only abyss guide as ts in beta from now on 🧍🏻
I wonder how she’ll share the space tomorrow with the jelly spirit
maybe trying to give a shot to a traveler spirit improovement? 
I'm kidding but we do need one
am I the only one going to miss the floating cape diamonds? 😔 they were such a magical part of the game to me and I'm really sad to see such an iconic part of Sky going away. I already sent feedback, just wondering if anyone else cares cause I haven't seen anyone mention it
I feel the same way about it too, I love, it's like seeing glimpses of a parallel universe and it became something really special in the game
I'll make sure to send it to feedback too
it's so endearing to me. like getting little reminders that I'm not alone in this big world, especially on days where it feels a bit empty/lonely 
I thought they were a neat way to notice people you’d never meet, it was goofy but there was something sweet about it that makes me sad to see it go
Agreed! I considered them like footprints, or more like capeprints in this case, find them super endearing. Sad to see them go
i really hope this is something they'll reconsider, similarly to how they brought back the rainbow bridge in Isle because it was so beloved by the community
hey, sorry this is off topic but i have a question. so, i've been in the beta since lightseekers testing, and i remember seeing talk a few times recently of a progress wipe after lightseekers... if that's the case, people are technically not supposed to have anything from lightseekers aside from cosmetics from traveling spirits that have come and gone, correct? because i somehow still have the lightseekers pendant, and everything else i got from that time (i don't bother with beta TS much so...)
i'm only asking now because, given i still have my lightseekers stuff, i did not know there was a progress wipe back then until recently (i don't keep up with the discord much either 😅)
No, there was only a progress wipe just before the release of iOS worldwide. Earlier seasons just didn't run long enough in beta for people to be able to get ultimate rewards from them.
I'm fairly sure this bug has been around since the game released, so honestly I'm a bit surprised this is the first mention of that bug fix I've seen in the chat!
I'm still seeing them around home and realms 
Oh?
really? i'm seeing mentions of a beta wipe during/after lightseekers. interesting
I agree with that sentiment though, it's like seeing footsteps in the sand
after honk radar was removed the world suddenly felt more empty, the floaties let us know a kindred soul has passed through recently
The Big Beta Wipe happened in June 2019. We lost all cosmetics and friend upgrades, because we needed to test the new currency system before iOS release.
When I first saw the random floating cape stars moth me thought it implied the existence of some sort of invisibility spell 
are you perhaps reading about a beta access wipe?
Honk radar, my old friend...
if you get into the big jar in the starlight desert without actually entering the area, you can see cape stars walking around and i think even hear footsteps, its really weird
sadly i can't say :[ everything i've read doesn't specify, and my reading comprehension admittedly isn't too great.
How do you get into the jar without entering the area?
you could probably chibi fall, before getting the chibi mask id run along the edge of the clouds until it dropped me underneath the map and fly up into it (be careful not to fly into the dark water tho, i lost some stars that way lol)
no worries! probably was referring to access wipes as there's been only one progress wipe, the one before global launch in 2019. Beta access used to be wiped shortly after the end of a season being tested in beta so new beta invites could be sent out for new testers. That system has thankfully changed as it was rather stressful to try to get back in 
Yeah, you could either chibi fall through the sand next to it and then fly up into it or just chibi fall through the top of the jar. It's a really nice and quiet little OOB
sorry this is a late reply, but yknow this is also funny because i was only ever wiped from beta access once, and i was fast enough to get back in when they posted new links x'D
im starting to think the candles are never going to be wiped
can you get rid of the penguin outfit?
There's a button to drop it, it'll stay wherever you dropped it until you leave the area. Leaving the area also removes it.
it's now stuck to you forever /j
Guys where do i get those candles that everyone is recording with now?
Spell shop, you can get 2 every day. 1 with 5 candles and other for free
Hi I'm sorry if this is the wrong place to ask. I'm worried so I wanted to ask the community. I'm currently a beta tester and I just got a new phone. It's an Android to Android switch. I have never transferred accounts before but I think I should have no problem switching my Live Sky account. What I am worried about is losing my ability to be a beta tester because I do not already have Sky Beta on my new phone. Does anyone know how to transfer beta testing to a new phone? I tried to look up support on the website, but it appears to be geared more to switching Live accounts and does not provide insight for Beta accounts.
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Can't you download beta if you use the same google account in google play?
@halcyon quail Thank you, yes. It did transfer automatically. It was not showing up because the transfer info from phone to phone hadn't come through yet I guess. Thanks so much for your help.
Good to hear that it worked! Nice icon btw 
Loving the ammount of nintendo players in this community 👁
i am one of y'all too guys
I'm gonna make a guess and say the old ultimate guide in the place where ts go is a bug
Yeah it probably is, the only thing you can do is relive the last quest and it vanishes right¿? 
They sometimes disappear for me if I enter a realm and come back home, very buggy
can't even do that it just stands there
Something must have snapped in the last update, i don't think it'll last long 
I wonder what will happen if the qg is still around by the time beta has a ts, maybe it just vanishes? Or are we going to see something different 
would love to discuss if there is any chance for the game developers to consider a ts update
Hello, how much does the Turtle Manta cape costs?
I know i am late for this question... But anyone else finds the amount of candles for the friendship emotes a little exorbitant?
The prices are not definitive yet but we guess 15$, just like the ocean cape 
I mean, getting closer with your friend may yes be expensive, the first few nodes are cheaper than the ones above it, I feel like it is fair since the closer you are the more you are up to spend in them or viceversa 
It would be so easy if every node were just a little bunch o' candles 
if you are talking about the new emotes, I hope there will be a reorder of those sometime-
I don't think a handshake should be over a bear hug uh
You guys should also put that in feedback
I agree
I alredy did! I don't want to write multiple messages tho 😭
Acceptable
Need support from everybody to get that friendship constellation reorder!

I think people are exhausted of farming hours per day. If you area veteran thanks ok but for beginners 32 candles for emotes is kind of too much
Yikes, they're 32 candles?? I haven't been able to unlock them w ppl
Ah, I am so painful to copy your words and then translate them.
Yeah... the daily candle run and the cost of everything is a topic that is debated a lot yikes
The game is not moth friendly no more 
Plus hours of cr will only give you 21 candles per day it being exhausting
We need a little update in here-
I wonder if the symbol for season of performance is the sixteenth note 
I know I sound dumb but maybe prolonging a littl bit the lasting of the chevrons? 😭
get ready to see some cat KU1tZ in prarie social
Is second weekly seasonal quest available?
Suddenly everybody became active I don't know what to answer 
it's 1am i just wanted to discuss about possible future for the game and go sneep snorp
Do you mean the season quests in Performance? The first 4 quests are available
Oh sorry for ping, just saw your about
OMG SATURN HI 
Go to bed you too little squinkle 🛏️ 
I'm candle running because I forgor to do it once again 😔
Wait is the oxygen mask still available? Or it ended after season of abyss? I bought the mask when season of abyss still here and had no idea
It's still available after Abyss ended
Then don't send me to bed smh 
Ah great thx! Good time to save some candols
Lmao enjoy ur cr, I'll go to sleep in a little bit, u go straight after finishing okay?
🛏️

Hehe tyy
and I'm planning to go to dreamland after my cr
Goods where were be when talking about changes in the game¿? 
Make candle runs less exhausting 😩
YespleaseJQJFJWJDJQHD
A bunch more of wax per chevron would make everything so less painful, lately I just go afk at grandma twice and that's my cr for the day, I am entering exams period gotta focus 😭
and I don't think this type of feedback/wishlist note would be taken lolz
There is a lot more of stuff more relevant going on rn, I get it 
I remember what a relief it was when the chevrons first appeared lol
But now it doesn't even feel like they're there anymore 

I don't know if that's just me, but I feel like things are getting more expensive
Yeah i think so, more or less
Oh they are, remember when juggler was considered the most expensive ts? ☠
Every spirit is comming with more stuff and therefore costs more I guess, I am scared of dreams spirits 
Oh lord imagine light whisperer as a ts
cape, pants, hair and hair accessory
Dancing spirit
is 1000 miles away and rapidly approaching
Dayum boi is speeding up gonna make everybody go broke 
HAHAAAAAAA P A I N 
Welp everybody left, and you sat gotta go finish cr and shleep
I'll see ya tmrrw, have a great fresh sleep 
You too!! See ya 
Does anyone know when the sunset happens at sanc?
5 mins after grandma ends
@hollow estuary ping cause cooldown but that looks like the eyebrows are the wings/hair flapping and idk which is funnier 
Message candles everywhere look little bit messy. 🥲
Homespace doesn't feel empty anymore now that it's filled abundantly with memory candols
I agree; some people will leave them in places where they interfere with gameplay too. There should be spaces dedicated to them, just like regular message candles
I saw one in a closet and it would not let me clear it so. Yeah, agreed 
which spirit have the guitar
head bop spirit
maybe having a place to put the candles in kind of a social space would be cool. like sharing your social space, you can share your memory in that area. i just hope that wouldn't make the memories all clot up in one area and lag
I think I’d prefer if they banned them from home and the campfire areas of each realm, letting people actually spread them out around the larger areas of every map and also preventing people from dropping them next to/in the closet or around spirits (and thus, interfering with gameplay)
Narrowing down the places where players can share their memories doesn't make much sense, since everyone creates memories across all of Sky's maps, from inside a tiny cave to high up in a tree. Restricting its range of space would limit the manner in which players can express themselves, and comparing this new feature to message boats doesn't seem fair—Still, I believe they can make a little bit of adjustment to prevent users from placing memories in certain locations that might bother or interfere with other players' gameplay, and perhaps encompass the same concept as with props by not allowing them to be placed where might distort the enjoyment of others (near spirits or players)
is it possible to make them transparent? so that we can walk/fly/run through them without them being in the way?
Honestly I wish there could be an option to turn them off so I don’t see them. I personally don’t like seeing all the candles everywhere. The message boats were enough everywhere for me.
you can hide them 😉
Maybe it can be divided into two types, one is visible only to friends, the other is both friends and strangers.
I don’t like seeing them in front of every single seasonal candle, candle cake, meditation shrine, it would be unrealistic for me to hide every single one individually
that's smart but i think that'll be really hard to develop. thats why i think the social area type of thing is a decent idea but the memories being contained in areas isn't the best
I would be happy with this as a solution 
However, for some people, it is interesting to share and read other people's memories.
If the shared memory is limited to a certain area, then everyone will lose their enthusiasm for viewing it.
The only thing is, I wanted to use it in ways, like a small moth guide, or giving tips on certain areas. If it was condensed to one area, I couldn't do that. I saw an idea to keep them out of home space, or the social areas. I think that could work
But if there are candles everywhere, it is really bad at home
I think it is feasible if it is set up in a place where people often pass by.
I don't know, we already have a system in place for quest and spirit relives to show you where your objective is. It wouldn't be too much to reuse this code for player memories in the realm, no? (Not talking about a full relive, but just a marker and candle spawn where you place it, and a "hub" in each area to spawn the candles.)
I actually had a question about the shared memory candles. Do they work like regular notes? In which they become public at 3 likes and give hearts at 50 likes
That information wasn't given to us, I don't think.
It's too hard to get 50 likes😫 😫 😫

But to have a spirit for every shared memory candle in existence to lead u to a place that a player places rather than a set destination tgc puts down--that might be hard. im not a compsci major so idk though
Not the memory itself, just a radar of sorts so you know where the memory candle was spawned. Edit: Like how you honk and can see where the next node is for spirit relives.
Some were floating 
I wish there were specific stones added in the realms where the memory candles could be placed, just like the message shrines. It looks like candle waste with them strewn everywhere randomly. Also, it’s confusing to come across the flame icons in the terrain.
Maybe we could have 1 memory candle on that stone,but you can press on arrows for a different candle to show up
Although several candles don't interfere,when I think about it
Had anyone reported the missing wl in the shipwreck area, the one in the wall? It’s completely missing, even doing chibi fall.
it's a little funny because with the memory candles TGC have brought back the issue the old memory candles of light awaits had x'dd
i think having dedicated spots for them like the regular message candles would be a good idea. perhaps make these dedicated look different from the message candle shrines, so we can tell the shared memory candles and message candles apart.
honestly they are charming, seeing all the candles strewn about is kind of cute. but they are pretty intrusive, sadly. and even a bit overwhelming. if they're overwhelming for me, a very long time player, then i can only imagine how overwhelming they may be to new players.
I sorta prefer having the freedom of being able to place memory candles everywhere, so I'd choose a compromise of having places where you can't place memory candles such as near the return shrine, wardrobes, spirits, and constellation shrine
much like props
oooo that sounds good
yeah i like that idea a lot too!! i'm mostly just worrying about overwhelming moths i guess
I'm agree. And I would also add that they reduce the amount per server as they did in the paper boats.
But keep the freedom to put them almost anywhere, because I have imagined messages near places that I want to remember with my friends or from friends that I have lost, so to be able to put a lovely message there to remember them.
exactly what i was going to say x'd
What’s the maximum time of shared memories?
Hello, may i know how many new wl in the new map expansion?
I think this a good idea! Maybe have shrines scattered throughout the lands where there a pretty views and you can leave message candles around. Or include an option to hide them in settings would be good too. The candles littered everywhere is an issue for me imo. I do LOVE running around and finding them but if they stay an "anywhere" item id appreciate at least the ability to turn off seeing them+UI prompts
Also bot pls I alr have but will again ig for the shrine idea.
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
I like these shared memories thing but the candles are literally everywhere and just makes the game look super messy. Kinda stresses me out
I'm nervous even if the candles change their position from the right wall to the left wall, and here it's just a bunch of stalagmites around... the developers have already used this idea with message candles before, but abandoned in favor of the boats, why did they do it again
I think it was because they wanted visual video type representations of messages that the text based boats don't. I still totally think the candles littered everywhere take away from the visuals in sky somewhat, but I love the concept of shared memories. I just wish it could be implemented in a way that doesn't do this but struggle to figure out a solution to where players could leave video messages anywhere and it not look messy. 
when we first had boats introduced, i was ready for them to disappear and for things to look "clean" again once the event ended...
and of course, they didn't go away. I love the idea of shared memories, but everything just seems like it's getting messier
So far 1 wing. I made a video of the location here if you need
#beta-screenshots-videos message
and so I thought the same. Its so freaking not cute seeing those boats in the dark plants plunging around.
we need paper torpedoes to sink those paper boats
or flamethrower burn those paper boats and dark plants at the same time 😄
guys how can i share memory at home or in other realm ?
you can buy memory candle spells at home from the boat and also a free spell every day. just use one from your spell menu
thank you
wait i just woke up.. i thought memory candles are only allowed in the performance area? or is it allowed now?
the newest update
Hi, I’m just curious why many people had ultimate gift early. Is that a bug?
I am sorry been busy with work 👀 so asking a bit late why is abyss quest giver at home ?
they sell ults /j
The hair used to be the first ult, now it's the last. The cape is still unobtainable iirc
Thanks
What was the beta TS previously again? I lost track 
If I’m not mistaken, it’s wise grandparent(the one with the white cape) the one from belonging.
Next TS on BETA is.....
Guess this: Jello, more like hello
Oh where do you guys get wich will be the next ts on beta??? 
The TS on beta is delayed from Live
After wise grandpa, its going to be cargo pants and then samurai pants
More like Helikopter insert PantsOnFire
Cargo already came then?
It's not reset time lol
Yes yes, but i'm talking about last time 
I could've sworn that wise grandpa was ages ago
Gee, hope that I'll get the Cargo pants ASAP when Android 8 bug was fixed
Have I gone mad 
What if the ts is the Abbys QG and we won’t get a TS in beta today 👀
~~ I mean the spot is taken rn XD ~~
Be like Water Prophet
U mean Abyss QG who became TS on BETA got arrested on breaking TS spot? 
Yeah I mean TS will come, and QG will go hey! This is MY spot, find somewhere else XD
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
As a [FAKE] BETA Agent, I wanna arrest the bug Scout chuckle
What is the total wl count we are up to now?
remains the same if shipwreck wall wl is gone and a wl was added to the theater
What is the total though is what I’m wondering? 1 was added to the theater and the wl in wasteland on the wall is completely gone. I wonder if they are fixing it or removing it.
I love watching the live general chat go into complete chaos when a ts arrives 
I wonder why
Yahihoo! Jelly TS is here! XD
||Me who got Android 8 crash bug: Let me in... LET ME IIIIIIIIIIIN!!!
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Right did abyss qg left after jelly arriving? 
I dont have beta qhdhwusbw I just like talking about it
Yeah she’s no longer there
Oop, well what else could we expect 
some had abyss qg open the jelly call tree 
We could expect that Abyss guide wouldn’t budge from her spot & refuse to let Jelly take over
We missed Sassy’s 2nd/3rd visit because we were testing TS props, I don’t remember exactly
I would love to live that BWDHW 
Abyss qg was raised by crabs now 😔
Android 9 beta still crashes...
Is android 8 beta crash?
I wondering if they touch a single line of code fixing killing android 9 instead fixing android 8
When will TGC issue the test suit
When they need more testers
I gotta do eden if I want jello hair in beta hhh 
Okay, okay, thank you.
When to open the test invitation?
Read above. We don't know. It's not scheduled, it's upon devs demand
Thank you
Cheer up! 
What's the difference between the ultimate hair then and now?
The hair tie
The geometry is different
This one is fluffer
It has wings instead of antennas
And the ponytail seems shorter
I think the ponytail is longer in the new version 
And its definitely more white than before and the hair tie is this platinum-gold instead of red(¿? I think it was
Oh alright, okay
jellyfish whisperer secretly an abyss questigiver? 😳 /j
That's an impostor
don't be alarmed if when it becomes a krill 
breaking news. krill on homespace oh god oh help
Crab evolved into krill 
UNO REVERSE CARD
Spamming the B button I see 
Is it true that guitar is part of the season pass for next season??
@whole herald
What is the problem here?
Penguin hair was shuffled to be last ult reward, now it’s the mask as first. We have to work for our SC in beta actually, what happened during Abyss was a bug
Hello, i know this feature is already in live but i wanna know if anyone here knows how many likes u need for shared space to receive a heart
Around 30 likes last I gotten one
Oh, thanks Dark
Hey!! Question: when’s days of bloom and how much is the wisteria cape?
Days of bloom ended in beta.
This is better suited for #questions-and-help if you're referring to Bloom coming to live
Moreover, those things are mentioned in patch notes. Perhaps read those(?)
How many seasonal candles can you get per day? I feel like I keep missing one or two sc candles from a realm or perhaps I missed one from the day before
25, 20 across all realms (4 each realm, except Isle) 4 quests, 1 daily gift
I have a question. I've send heart to friend but didn't lose candles. And I'm wondering if I actually send heart or not
How to put memory candle on the ground?
Buy the spell from the boat
What's with traveling spirit?
Why's this one here?
Beta is behind on schedule
If we resume on this schedule with no interruptions Greeter will arrive weeks later
we're currently 16 weeks behind live schedule, but beta ts could cease to exist tomorrow and we'd just shrug
hello! I've seen ppl in the beta screenshots and vids with their skykids holding an "electric guitar", but i can't seem to see it on the back of the seasonal spirits, if i may ask, how do u obtain it?
it's the last cosmetic the vibe spirit offers, the one with curly hair and headband, top of the constellation.
also you can tell which cosmetic is which by tappin the button and seeing the animation it does
hair, cape, mask animations are very unique
How much is the abyss mask after 5th quest
Please check pins. As mods advised, we shall not give prices from beta because everything from beta is subject to change. (Abyss testing is over in beta btw)
But a mask in live usually costs about ~45 candles.
When the crashes are no longer happening
Keep an eye out in #beta-announcements. Since the issue is in #known-issues, I am sure once there is a potential fix for the crashes, they will let us know to test the fix.
did beta have a player wipe before rhythm?
Be like Water Prophet if you are impatient
Up until some time last year, beta access was regularly wiped before testing for a new season began.
Unsure if that answered your question.
Hang on...do we see text in shared memories regardless of friendship status?
Nevermind it's just like shrine messages in that way and censored accordingly
yeah, that way you can use them as guides instead of just like,, delayed emote spam 
I was thinking they could be abused like a global free chat... but we have that function with shrine and boat messages anyway and survive
shrine and boat messages are heavily filtered, i assume memory candles will also use the shrine filter instead of the friend chat one once it hits live if it doesnt already 
the sheer amount of people wondering who the "ts" is killing me when the abyss guide isnt even gone yet in live, are they that forgettable 
forgettable will turn into less amnesia
I would guess they don’t play Live at all…
No, I haven’t played the Live version for a bit, still so much to explore in beta, which is a major reason I couldn’t place the Abyss Guide, and it made me a bit wonky. 🥴
Ohh thanks, i will
I want invisi cape but only have 150 hearts mm.. Gonna take so long 😭
Hello! Just wondering if let's say, my skykid hugged someone for the shared memories, would it appear like they're hugging air? :0 (no i can't go and test it for now ehaha)
Just add everyone you meet, trade with them
it's a big project so naturally it'll take some determination 
it'll appear like they're just standing, no friendship emotes are recorded to shared memories
I see :D aww i thought a "would you like a hug?" message would be cute hehdhd
well, let me rephrase that - you can still see the offer pose of any friendship emote, but not the emote itself
I did these tests in the first build so brb
Oooh well that explains a bit :0
tier 2 white and black capes never left beta right?
yepp
That gives me too much anxiety 😭 😭
The joker looking spirit just ate my 20 candles