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Haha that's true I shouldn't worry

I liked the assembly tunnels but its something that I feel only fits that season, at least for now. And something like the wind paths I wouldnt expect to have until there are more areas added I think. That's why I took dreams as an example, it has an entrance in valley lobby, but you also have a way to get to the village deeper into the realm
May be one for a future season...
<deleted> What does this represent? On behalf of the other party has cancelled the game?
A friend with this name appears in my friends list.
This most probably means support deleted this user for some reason. TGC may take various actions depending on how users broke terms of service.
Or indeed, if the user them-self asked for deletion.
Anyone got comparison pics of the ult for this season?
Look up "voi's beta archive" on #beta-screenshots-videos
Do we know how much the in-game currency water breathing mask costs?
How can I get a beta sky
We don’t have prices on the ultimate mask yet. The last quest hasn’t even been released. Beta equals patience. If you cant be patient, maybe beta isn’t the right place for you.
read #beta-faq throughly:)
do y'all think the resemblance to isle of dawn in the abyss archipelago was intentional
Maybe TGC just made surface part so desert just to emphasize that the most interesting lies under the water
I find most areas are kind of reminiscent of each other within the game. I suppose it would fit in well with the lore.
can someone help me get to the new area?
well not new anymore
but the area added this season? it’s been awhile since I’ve decided to go there and completely forgot where the place is located for the boat
I thought it was next to the old shipwreck in the side area of GW but I searched all over that area and can’t find anything
It's in the lobby of GW.
Yes, changed some time last year.
It was in the patch notes and there is a bot command for it...or trigger.
yeah I haven’t played sky in awhile because I got busy with school but I like to hop on every now and then to do some testing and explore new features
Maybe it's "where the boat" (darn it)
I ate it 
@hollow compass as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements, that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space
it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉
Ah, there it is!
Everyone asks where is the boat, but never why is the boat?
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
They don't ask how is the boat
they dont ask what is the boat
Anyone knows why the beta ping roles (and other roles) are constantly removed?
TGC probably periodically clears the reactions because Discord tends to break when there's too many
is there any chance the new design of the snorkel mask could be reverted? I've seen many people pointing this out, we loved the original one
Since the season starts in like 10 hours, I think it's probably safe to say that whatever designs we've most recently seen in beta are the final designs. It's possible they could make tweaks to them in the future for things like clipping or glitchiness, but I don't think they would completely change the look of any of the seasonal cosmetics at this point
😭 such a pity
The original mask changed on (most probably more) player feedback and TGC also has no intentions to copy anything - this is the other reason for the change
Guess we'll have to get used to it
but I'm so sad, the 2nd design was my absolute favorite and I was excited to use it
2 things. 1: how many weekly quests are there? And 2: what number weekly quest are you guys on?
I'm trying to find which spirit in valley of triumph I'm supposed to do in the daily quests, but it shows the butterfly spirit from prairie and I tried it and it didn't work
spirit emotes to relive in daily quests are sparkles, not butterflies. try going to the maze in the valley temple.
so far, there are six quests in total, and the beta version allows for a fifth quest.
nice boat
Thank you!
Is the last quest available yet? Too lazy to get on and see lol
I think the in-game timer says it has about a week left until it's out, unless TGC pushes it back or something
I legit just wanna know if the rebreather is free tho! Probs not but I wanna know how many candles it costs
We've already answered your question in #questions-and-help. We don't know what the price is, and it won't be free.
You mean you ate it and then make a new one in Wasteland Social Area because TGC told you so or they will turn you off if you don’t do it right?
Where’s the boat?
Literally the message above
IT’S IN WASTELAND SOCIAL AREA
Is it asleep
Bro you were going to call Skybot up?
Yes
Maybe not wake Skybot up while their appearance in #general-sky-discussion
This question is asked so much I was hoping to have a command ready
Maybe not spam the chat with “Where is the boat to Season of Abyss” Fearbot is lurking you
That’s sad
How to get the qualification for the test?
You mean get in Sky Beta?
If that’s the case, #beta-faq is the good start
Well the bot didn’t catch that one
Russin the bot whisperer
did you just cold ping russin¿ 
I shouldn’t?
well, there are some people that prefer not to be pinged when they’re not active since hours ago, if you aren’t sure if they’re okay with it it's best to turn pings off 
When will the friendship constellations be updated? Is that in another patch?
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
I believe the trigger is “Where is the boat in the golden wasteland?”
I ate it 
@frail ruin as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements, that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space
it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
It's nice to invoke the bot 
Let's not tease the bot. Sky bot might bean us if they get mad 
Everytime someone teases Skybot, a Skykid gets krilled. 
Just curious if there’s a note system in Abyss?
Never saw one during my time there. I don't think any of the new seasonal areas since the trials have had note shrines
mmm, wonder if there will be an underwater note spell like boats/cranes/etc.
oh that would be interesting!
so far we can only place boats on the surface
Hi Everyone. Still not able to get an update in Google market for build 182692.
The app doesnt annouce about update as well. What could be the problem? I faced the same in Sky live version, but the solution is to unistall the game and then install it again.
With Beta i'm not sure it will work. If i unistall it, I will not be able to downloaded it back from google market.
Please advise if anyone faced the same issue
looks like the leviathan is there before even quest 4.... although its risky to visit it
So in the abyss trailer, it looks like the leviathan krill will have some sort of larger presence in the season than just showing up in the fourth quest and then disappearing after
we will sea (or not) in a week 
the hammerhead mask made it into live 
why did the devs not change the icon tho? it's very deceiving since neither of the masks look like that
it will probably change in the future (or not), none of the mask will be available for quite the time (unless you're planning to complete everything day one with money)... there is always a patch update before the final quest to put in the contents of it
still hoping for a slight change in the design because the igc mask looks way better imo 
Quick question,
Can we still visit the leviathan up close in live ? 
I managed to do it beta, but I couldn't do it in the other. Must've done something wrong 
yep, although ever since the light plants got nerfed, being in the tank with the leviathan will get you killed
As in because there's no light source there to recharge with anymore, right ?
I'd still risk it. One wing is no problemo 
You heard me 
one wing... 🤨
since it takes 2 minutes to lose wl now you can probably get down and take some pics before it happens
Can you access the Leviathan chamber early in the season?
i tried and yep its possible
How? I saw the entrance but I couldn’t find a way in
with a little oob trick (chibi fall)
I don’t know how to do that 😭 especially underwater
Plus I still don’t have the chibi mask
oof... you can't chibi fall underwater doe
you're supposed to chibi fall on the surface near the tower and dive down
Dive down…in the krill tower?
near it but don't go in it
you can see a large hollow space deep underwater, that's the leviathan's tank, go towards it
haven't played beta since the first update of the new season, the map became smaller
me and my friends frantic deep honking just to not drown lmao
Wait has the 1min duration been patched into Live or is it still 45sec?
it's 1 minute in live
Hey guys .I have have a question that bothers me for a long time.How do we distinguish between those Two patterns of seasonal candles.likes prairie there are two different situations.After all, there are two patterns on the map at the same time
beta has all seasonal candles active in the realms at the same time. this seems like a question for live
So I have questions and want to find out how to distinguish
Misty replied to you. All candles are visible in beta. If this is about Live, please ask in #questions-and-help
OK, thanks
The fact TGC still didn't reverse the seasonal candles count
Maybe that's for "quicker" testing
When is the qualification for testing updated?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
It'll come when TGC needs new testers, no one knows when.
So, it seems that I need to pay attention to the new information in time. Which channel will the testers release the test qualification?
Read #beta-faq , there you can get access to the invites channel by getting yourself the invites ping role.
still annoyed the boat was changed yet its icon is still visible on the map
OK, I'll look for it. Thank you for your answer.
You're welcome
...is the leviathan hostile?
We don't have the final quest available in Beta yet. So far we didn't see any hostility as per testing. But things may change..
Thank you so much for this information... hope it does not end up becoming hostile or I will cry of fear
It has a fully modeled maw apparently
Teeth, lots of them
did they remove the feature to give seasonal candles to friends?
That was a bug, not intentional
If I understood correctly, it was a bug, not a feature.
oh, alright, thank you
drink a shot of dark water every time you hear "test suit"
the ship got simplified, right? I remember it having two floors in the early season days in beta
Why i got feeling our skykid might get eaten by that Leviathan at Last Quest later...
That would actually be rlly interesting
Imagine if you get to play as one of the spirits in order to save yourself 
?
Funny, the map still shows the old boat
what if spirits sell all of the resources and finally upgrade to the old boat 
|| or their current boat gets destroyed by the big boi
||
Did you have a question?
I really wonder why the fun of having a plant to recharge near the leviathan was removed.
it was so great to see instead of the honk cunami to recharge from which you can barely see anything in the dark abyss 
I haven’t played around with the new friend constellation layout much until now, is there a way to access your “acquaintances”? Or are they just lost for forever
I have only a handful of friends in beta, for me they are spread around the favourites constellations. I've heard if it gets too many for this, you get extra pages with them like the current live ones.
I went into edit mode and it didn’t allow me to create more constellations, so I dropped those people I needed to sort into acquaintances. Now… I don’t know where to find them lol
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
Seems like Acquaintances are all the way to the right in your friend constellation
And one can add constellations by a special button.
There must be a limit on how many constellations you can have. Eventually the button didn’t pop up for me
i searched this up and… is it a mistranslation of beta test?
But I’ll check again
10 is the maximum I think
Last one you get is real life Gemini/Sky spirit stone
I figured it out! If you move people to the aqcuaintence section, they pop up in the background of other constellations
Guess I just needed to take a second look haha, thank you all for the information :)
yo what sea creatures got removed? i know the turtle did but did tgc remove others?
the starfish are no more 

i wonder why they got rid of the cool ones
was there to mutch clutter and it caused peoples phones to heat up or smthn?
we will never know... its a development mystery unless devs choose to disclose it
It's hard to say, but I do remember reading something about the level of inmersion and keeping certain consistency with what they've already shown
i nearly drowned while trying to not get caught by krill 
at least i did the quest safely 
two creatures got removed one being the turtle with corals 🐢 and the diamond shaped sky 
there was only one turtle 🐢 swimming in the starting area (correct me if im wrong) its basically just a simple turtle with corals on its shell, it was an uncolored mesh/model just like most of the new creatures at the time
it had an unique swimming animation due to its distinctive anatomy, but the animation was pretty choppy, it flapped its arms like its trying to fly rather than swim
why was it removed? it was a placeholder/scrapped asset to help visualize unfinished ideas e.g. a creature swimming in the ocean
now the
fish... it was extremely cute (to me)
there was several (maybe just two) schools of it circling the manta cages/chambers
unlike the emoji the fish was actually diamond shaped, with one(or two?) large yellow eye that blinks (!!!) and came fully textured while most creatures weren't
it has a static swimming animation, but when you approach it, they will recharge your oxygen and light, blink and spin around wildly which was honestly the best part cause it was just that cute
why was it removed? literally no idea, but could have been an old scrapped asset just like the turtle
technically there is another tuna-like fish, but i suspect its just an early design concept to test out stuff just like the turtle, with both being minimal in design complexity and animation
basically this tuna-like fish evolved to the current knife shaped fish, replacing its role as the common school of fish in the area
the knife fish is more detailed, its AI pathing is better, its school is neatly kept tightly, the swimming animation is better although its predecessor would occasionally dive out the water which is pretty cool, idk if the knife fish does that but i haven't seen it
the starfish was a background prop and not an actual creature, part of the short lived seaweed n corals update removed for being too unsky
Waiting the turtle was seriously removed?
Now time to return back to my "BRING BACK LIGHT AWAITS TURTLE" mode again...

They shouldn't have removed turtle and starfish. They were so cool 🥺😭
||does the megalodon hurt your sky kid||
What there was a starfish?
Pretty early on in beta testing season of abyss
I still have hope it will get rebuilt in the last quest
please tgc i need updoot
Quietly waiting for the qualification application for testing service to be open.
Is it possible to get elf hair on beta

we tested the nintendo pack for a short time last summer, but it is no longer available
It was possible when the testing for the switch was active, somewhen last spring if I remember correctly. Those who got it back then can still have it. But currently there is no way to get it again legally in the beta.
okay!! thank you!! Hehehe I'm a fan of your work ♥️
Thank youuu
So far, no. Not sure what might happen in the 5th quest.
ou lord. Thank you for this i fear for the future /lh
I wonder if the IGC diving mask will be the exact same as the Ult. Is there any word abt the IGC mask?
Kinda feel like a waste to collect two similar mask .....
It’s different, and probably a different duration of ability
You can have a preview of the mask if you open your closet,if you're referring about the design. About the duration comparison,idk.
there is a lot of similar masks ingame, and the ultimate gift and IGC mask are vastly different compared to other pairs
Ah right i could check from the closet. I forgot abt that. Thanks for the help guys 
How do i get beta on Android?
Read #beta-faq carefully
Did the devs disclose why they removed the turtle? It seems to me like a bizarre choice because it would have made the area even more gorgeous
And everyone loved it
(Ping off) @sage linden it’s explained here
I see..but what did it placehold? I feel like the turtle would suit the area more than whatever it placeheld 
As far as I remember Stellify told they removed it because it was not behaving and working as they intended. Well (finally something where) we didn't notice anything was not as intended.
im more upset with the apparent removal of the diamond fishies....i liked them
:(
I loved them too 😔 RIP
Yes I loved all the og abyss fauna too
I think the turtle didn’t go well with Sky worldbuilding, since there are creatures there unlike those on earth. However, there are birds and butterflies that are pretty similar to earth counterparts. I think our love for the turtle outweighs the need to stay consistent with the theme of Sky. Besides, the turtle can remind us about how ocean life is vulnerable to pollution and that we need to cherish them
I have no idea how a turtle can't fit in Sky. We have dog, shrimp, regular birds and fishes, mantas (which are stingrays). The polluted geyser and sanctuary meditation quest is all about ocean vulnerability.
Dog-oh oreo. I thought you meant mr prophecy for a second.
Turtles fit skys aquatic theme perfectly. I don’t like the light awaits one. Very bland, but the coral one I think is maddening they took out
What do you mean? All the creatures in sky ARE real: birds, butterflies, stingrays, krills. Yes, stingrays and krills swim irl, not fly but they're very real.
Oreo is no sky creature. He cannot be comprehended by the mortal mind.
Well, krill and crabs, leviathan, whales, elder manta, are all original creature designs. Mantas do resemble stingrays and aquatic mantas irl, but are their own thing in sky.
Agreed
Please google stingrays, krills and whales. You'd be surprised.
Do real life krill have a blinking nose? 👀
Ahahaha, true, but all we try to say is your point still not stands because Sky has irl based and fictional animals as well. 
sky whales look like ceolocanths
OH WAIT
there is the big fish that look like ceolocanths
and there's also whales whales
I've seen them both referred to as whales so my brain shorted out for a second
Basically any sea creature is up for skyification to fit perfectly. Coral turtle was from concept art, and concept has deers and octopi and hummingbirds and vultures and such.
I feel that the crab design moreso resembles a rock than they do an actual crab
they're the farthest straying sky animal from their real like counterpart
is the invisible cape only beta exclusive
Yes
the crabs evolved to look like rocks i guess
I’m going to pass away
But for the longest time i had nothing red to match my Sparkler parent hair with (i was a bloom moth
) so now i will*** have a red mask and
Yayyy
I didn’t get the dismiss cape bug, and now we’re on repeat ts schedule, so we may not get the dismiss for another 2 years lol
I didn’t get any of the cool inventory bugs 🥲
you get it in live... that's where it matters the most
the ts schedule isn't that far behind, they'll be here in a few months unless tgc decides to fix it
I get hungry in beta too, must have my chicken snack with me in both games
You'll need a name change now 🤭
That is the name change
I’ll retire that nickname soon enough as well
For now at least, currently they don’t have any plans for a live release. But who knows
Speaking of bugs. It would be interesting for a future season set in the forest related to creatures. Like they add in many new animals and dark creatures. Kinda like a quality of life update in a way but as a season
Sorry but does anyone have an image for the days of fortune wool hat?
the wool hat came in the previous Days of Fortune, therefore, it is already in the Live version. For outfit requests you’re welcome to ask in #seasons-events-chat / #screenshots-and-videos
Ah Tyty
Please tgc give us updoot we need 5th quest aaaaaa
Hey do places unlock when we do more seasonal quests? Seeing a lot of locked off areas that i cant find the entrance too. Is this on purpose or am i just dumb? 
some seasonal quests yes.. some no
some of abyss areas hasnt seemed to function properly but mostly are dependable on seasonal quest
Mind if i ask what parts haven't functioned properly yet?
A little sad.
Quietly waiting for the qualification of test service to open.
Is the qualification for testing service permanent once obtained?
Not necessarily
They should be in the patch notes for the newest live update
Basically they can kick all testers at any given time
And if you’re inactive for too long you can get kicked
Only if you’re on ios though i. Think?
Not sure 
Prices and charts aren't allowed to be posted in beta channels due to beta prices possibly being different than live. Same goes for maps, guides, etc. (Sometimes prices might be in update posts, though in #beta-announcements)
the fish cosmetics was under what event again?
Days of Fortune
sankyuu i forgor
Do you know what the next season will be?
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!
I wonder, too... I hope the update comes up soon.
Abyss just started in live, it’ll probably be a while until we see anything on the next season
We haven't even tested quest 5 and people asking about the new season, already. 
People be too used to fast consuming everything
Hi everyone I have a question concerning the abyss beta. When y’all were testing things out was there any kind of Mask Spell for the breather? I’m curious because until we can get one in season there’s not really enough time to explore. So I thought maybe there would be some 10 mins spells or something for it.
There is a 30 minute spell for it but I don’t recall its current status or wether it is planned for release in live or not
Thanks yea I’ve been checking Ark for it daily havnt seen it but they do stuff like that for everything else I figured they’d have to with this
even with the breather, it doesn't give you infinite time to explore though...
Well yea, and I watched the beta footage religiously, they definitely made it better than it was with no make at all. But having a little extra could certainly help. I just wonder if there’s going to be a difference in the two masks duration wise. I know y’all only know what you know. That’s really a thinking out loud kinda thing.
This is just an educated guess, but the spell was made before the IGC version of the rebreather. Maybe they won't be necessary now there's a version for F2P players
So what you mean is because it’s not something not everyone can have, a spell isn’t really necessary for them to give us.
The ult mask spell will not go to live.
Right on
I no have Big monster on Deep in Beta. Why?
I complete all quests... But i don't see him
You cannot visit it after doing 4th quest
hey at 1st I thought I missing one season heart to redeem the diving mask but turns out it actually just need one season heart right? why my diving mask need 2 hearts to redeem
The diving mask does need 2 hearts to redeem. Cape and tassel each need 1 heart.
did you maybe bought the scrapped ult mask??
Hi! For those who finished the season of abyss in beta, without giving spoilers. Does it make sense why the ancestors built these underwater structures in the first place?
I see but I left one season heart, already check many times to make sure that I did unlock all the spirits..
I don't have the scarpped ult mask too
The last abyss quest isn’t available to us yet, we don’t know how it ends 
You must have bought the second ultimate mask that was removed from the tree.
I just check only have 4 masks from spirit's tree
That scrapped mask was removed from closet too 
If you are one heart short then you definitely bought the scrapped mask
I don't think you understand what I wrote. The quest giver previously had 4 items that each cost 1 heart: 2 masks, a cape and the tassels. One mask was removed, but if you bought that o ne you will be short one heart. So you can't buy the second mask.
ok I clear now thanks

Why is it so hard for my sky to meet Xiao Hei, which makes me play the lone wolf simulator.
who's that
???
xiao hei 小黑 is unlit players
lone wolf simulator =孤狼模式= lonely player mode
Tbh, I kinda want the transition from the Golden Wasteland's lobby to the seasonal area to be from the sky to the sea surface.

🇸 🇰 🇾
🇧 🇪 🇹 🇦
@rocky torrent you will be able to open the barriers there in a future quest
specifically I think it’s the third one
YAY
TJANK YOU!! 
I saw a beta vid awhile ago abt the season from nastymold about the cosmetics, and there was a fish tail cape i think, what happened to it?
I think that’s apart of fortune
ohhh okay ty
im not a beta person i just wanted an answer and cant ask in gen chat lol
also what is going on with that tower sticking up out of the water with the wl on it? theres lil terminals to open the gate on the floor but they dont have the little stones, but we got stones from the first quest. Are theh gonna be used for that?
I would think so
the tower is still a mystery, the 5th quest which is not available yet is the last chance we'll see if the tower has anything to do with anything
Are we for sure though that the second mask will be a heart?
the convo was talking about the ultimate gifts, so yes they will indeed cost seasonal hearts as usual
I just saw that in the screenshot convo as well. I see what you’re saying. I bought everything all at once since we had all the season candles from the glitch.
Do you mean the mask after 5th quest? If so then we don't know the price yet as 5th quest isn't released on beta yet
I thought they were talking about that mask!
It won't cost seasonal hearts that's for sure
I didn’t think it would, honestly.
No, the conversation you replied to was for the ultimate mask that costs two seasonal hearts if you bought the now scrapped other ultimate mask that had scar before it was scrapped and didn't buy the rebreather then you'll be one heart short to buy the ultimate mask now
And please don't ping someone for a comment +7 hours ago. 
I did buy the scrapped mask when it was still there, but I also bought the rebreather one.
And I apologize for pinging. I didn’t mean to cause any confusion. I was just asking for clarification.
If you bought both masks then you don't have to worry 
People that didn't buy the rebreather and only bought the scar mask will be short one heart
But they still have the 5th quest to look forward to! 
Very true and the second rebreather mask!
Anyone have details about the items coming for the two mini events?
Should be in the blog post in #news
Beta isn't for previews, but you can probably browse #beta-screenshots-videos for pictures
Hey yall just wondering if there’s any point in collecting seasonal candles for now || since the xxx,xxx amount of seasonal candles bug is going to reset our count to 0|| once the bug is fixed?
I haven’t been doing the daily quests but I still see people rushing to complete them, maybe they are still working on the constellation?
No need to spoiler tag anything in beta 
As told, once they fix the bug they want to reset the numbers.
Not every beta player is affected with that type of bug.
I hope it answers all of those questions!
Ok thanks!!! 🥺

Also beta is for testing @cyan plover so users do daily quests regardless candle bug because of habit and beta players are in beta for testing purposes, not just for constellation. :)
Got it!! I just haven’t been finding too many bugs lately with the daily quests but good to know 🙂
thanks @cobalt jacinth
i'm sure we'll have some fresh bugs to serve up soon enough 
Bugs 😋
0.16.5 bug buffet soon? 
At granny's, be there at reset
Is this implying that we may be able to start testing for the final Abyss quest soon? I’d love to bug-hunt with our big leviathan friend 
Watch it be like that, but the leviathan doesn't come back at all ;-;
Skykids will riot if it doesn't come back 
As per uzhe, Soon™️—could be today, could be 2 weeks from now, who knows! (inb4 someone goes "where's the update, you said 2 weeks!!!
)
and new Fresh OOBs?
That is honestly the first time I've read the shorthand for usual
We will have to wait for beta update less than players have been waiting for dismiss to come, that's sure. or not entirely sure
sorry fam, next beta update is in 1.97 years 
is dismiss spirit coming back?
In live yes, in beta... who knows? We will see.
Beta traveling spirits aren't always the same as Live's, the spirits have been behind live since Abyss
It's a mystery, and that's the wonderful surprise of beta
Looks like a beta update just hit the googles
183091
It’s been 84 years. Oops sorry for the cold one - thought it was an active chat. My bad. Don’t throw me to the krill

183091 has been out for about a week. It's got some Android only backend changes. Nothing that players will see or notice, hence no #beta-announcements but we needed internal QA to validate on non-dev servers.
Still waiting on the currency wipe. 
It's on the to-do list but eng is rightfully more focused on fixing bugs and finishing features.
True, it only really affected SC. As long as conversion doesn't happen due to some odd error, we should be fine on white candles, no?
it'll auto-convert when the season ends.
i wonder how many hours it will take to finish the convert 
Well yes, it will. I'm not questioning that portion of it. That reply seems to imply currency won't be wiped until a good bit after this test cycle. I was mainly implying "some odd error" or bug, if you will, that might cause an early conversion. Since we haven't even touched the 5th quest yet, we shouldn't really worry about the season "ending" any time soon™ normally.
Kotoeri, you just restart the client and the conversion would be finished. It's just visual, the conversion is instant. (At least that's how most games are coded for things that have an extended animation)
yes, it wasn't the right word, sorry. watching the animation of the conversion is fun, so I always watch it until it's done.
candles go bing bong into eternity 
I like watching them too. It's quite fun to see candle rain lol
I don't have an eta on when we'll reset things, so it could be tomorrow or a month+ from now. barring anything unusual, the conversion should happen as normal, but it's beta so anything could implode at the drop of a pixel. we can do 5th quest testing before or after the beta season end, so that's less pressing, there are no plans to extend the season duration on beta, 70 days is prolly more than plenty as it is 
Good to know, thanks! Yeah I was mainly just confused on the last quest with how soon the beta season ends, glad that’s cleared up ^-^ Abyss is lovely so far and I’m excited to see the results of all the hard work in the coming weeks!
we have lots on horizon, can't wait for y'all to dive in 
If conversion happens before the wipe, imma buy everything from the constellations and give every single person in my friend constellation a heart daily until the wipe lol
Actually, the bugs are sometimes as fun as the new content or they significantly up the fun factor of new things
All I can do is gift hearts. Normal constellation is completed for candles on my beta account. 500+ legitimately acquired white candles going down the drain if we do have a white candle wipe. 
Oh no! That would be sad! A friend of mine has 1k+ candles. Really hope the wipe happens before the conversion
I'm loving to play and test this season, the new events, etc.
But there's only one thing that is keeping me away from playing Sky and Beta rn, which is the clouds and underwater places, since some updates ago, the clouds and underwater places are shaking too much, just like an earthquake, if i stay for too long on these places, i start to get a headache, because it's shaking too much really fast...
I remember when the evil laugh emote came as a bug for a couple days way before abyss, we spammed it to our hearts content 
Is this means
gonna back in beta for next update
I know, nah
👀
Oof that’s pretty frustrating. Maybe try contacting support in game?
I'm trying to collect information if anyone is having this issue as well so i can give a more detailed bug report
is.. is that robot limbs on the 
but to answer your question, where's the notthatdeepfam when i need it?
Are the
remote controlled 
I wonder if anyone in here is having the same issue
hard to say without a video of what you mean. when you brush up against invisible boundaries, wind walls can cause shaking but nothing comes to mind that we've changed recently that would cause an effect that resembles what you're describing.
yeah I've had the shaking clouds in Live for a while now. somewhere around 1.15 or 1.15.5
they submitted a video of the shaking in #beta-screenshots-videos
Oh this gets me excited! I can't wait to see what's in store 
Raiden Shogun reference/jk
If i'm looking at the correct video then the shaking seems to be due to low frame rate so there's a lag between when different things move that might be making it look like it's shaking.
Here are better examples
#beta-screenshots-videos message
I get that even when my frame rate is okay
I just wonder are there any chances for new spells possible to come into the ark weekend shop…
Isn’t it weird that we have energy recharge spell but don’t have oxygen recharge potion
Isn’t it weird that we have bonfire spell (that was ultimate gift) but dont have ultimate umbrella spell
Isn’t it weird that we have spells for iap lantern and days of love props but dont have weekend sales for summer umbrella spells
You got an idea i hope …….
Part of your answer
Ktjn confirmed that ultimate rebreather mask spells won't reach live
Server error ?🥲
How much days till the season finish 
11 day after reset
Thanks 
You can enter the game?
Hope Dev change TS for BETA. Always juggler 😂
Anyone know how to get dismiss TS for beta?
Its random TS
you can't, the spirits are several weeks behind and the devs probably won't fix it any time soon
😭 dismiss TS…
tses aren't even supposed to be in beta in the first place, you should be more concerned about live 
@mighty bloom #beta-screenshots-videos message here's the past versions of the ult rebreather
if the ts schedule stays being 3 months behind the live one we'll end up seeing dismiss in beta sooner or later as well
next ts should be playfighting herbalist, followed by wise grandparent. after that we're all caught up to when they started repeating the old schedule
When does the final quest unlock in abyss?
soon™️
Tgc is writing a whole novel for the final quest 💀
Aaaa i need to candle run in beta for Herbalist’s hair 
Its one of my favorite hairstyles
since the season will end before herbalist arrives you might end up losing those candles due to wipe after sc conversion. your candle count might increase if they set it to 100-200 candles again and you’re currently below that though
Well if they do that, at least 100-200 is enough for them to afford herbalists hair 
anyone know when we're supposed to get the forest polish in live?
!omgomgwhen also which forest polish?
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
ah figured beta peeps might know hehe
saw stuff awhile back about improving the lighting in first forest area
There's currently a bug making lighting weird (red/metallic/guess others too), other than that I didn't notice any lighting changes.
just more like the first area is kinda dim, there was some recent-old beta footage with some brighter spots
its probably the last time where forest got its lighting messed up, was a bug
the dailyTask of Beta version is it similar to live version .?
i mean : Can i know The upcoming Daily quest of live version 1 day before ?
Beta is following the same schedule, which means quests are in the same realm but may differ in what you need to do.
This is because we might need to test something in particular in beta.
the cycle is 5 days now
Unfortunately inactive ios testers get thrown out, as there is a maximum of testers possible. It's not known how exactly the criteria are.
I had an updated game to play yesterday☹️
Are you logged in into the correct Apple ID?
I've been using that Apple ID
Yes but is it the correct one? Do you have multiple IDs? You could check that, if no, then…
Pretty sure I'm out of the loop. Has TGC explained why there are different travelling spirits in beta? Is it for further testing of the props that come with them?
a delayed beta schedule is somehow preferable to them, nothing much to it. ts in beta is a treat outside of specific ts related testing
It was confirmed that it isn't a bug, however I haven't seen other details https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/583370574449999880/918598943003271259
Hmmm all right, makes sense
I don't know if it's intended this way but it has a good effect taming down the beta ahead exclusivity and with candle wipes it also has a good message that it's not substitute of live.
Yayy cus im broke as Eden 💔
And. Actually broke in ac i gotta do that too 🌞
But we already got the dismiss cosmetics in beta 👀
I'm still waiting for Jelly to finally show up lmao
Jelly has actually been in beta as a TS once
but i wish you the best luck and a lot of candles for them
Jelly only made their limited appearance on old version, for those who already updated their game got sunbather instead 🕶️
so yeah it could come again!
Oh fr? I didnt know that actually, i tought everyone had the jelly TS 
yup there's more info if you search sunbather in this channel!
Testflight peeps actually reverted game version to meet the jello 
Yeah there was another time to test a new ts system as well. And I was broke at the time
Hopefully I can get the pants this time 
Jelly is basically guaranteed provided the schedule keeps going
I’m kind of sad they dumbed down the first quest in live, it was definitely fun trying to figure out where the gap in the wall was without the obvious plant hint
Well to be fair, we had a lot, and truly I mean a lot of people constantly asking where that entrance was. I think they did right personally, or we'd get a lot more people asking about the entrance in live as well.
tbh, the hole in a wall in the og quest looked like an unfinished part of the blue barrier, rather than an actual entrance you were supposed to go into. I honestly thought i accidentally oob-ed and cheesed the quest.
the main point of the quest is too teach people the door opening mechanic, not to solve a mini puzzle
Imagine how many 12 yo kids would be ridiculously angry just because they can’t find a hole in this wall… 😩💦
So I think it’s better the way it is…
Hello! I was wondering if I was the only one that completed all the constellations but lacks a seasonal heart to buy the last item of the spirit guide?
No it happened to many users who bought the discarded Ult gift mask at season beginning in beta
if you got the (now removed) first ultimate mask you won't have enough seasonal hearts left
Where does Big Chonk go after 4th quest?
away
Does it... Just disappear?
it is no longer visible in the area

It's not fair. Sanctuary after final quest have ultra big creature staying there, but Abyss doesn't
we have no idea what might happen in the abyss final quest, something tells me we haven't seen the last of the leviathan 
Yes, I hope final quest returns it. Or makes thing more clear at least
无聊
^ boring/bored
When you said jelly TS, you got my attention. I thought you mean those recharging jellies. 
Just to realize you meant jelly call spirit 
How many waffles should I eat before BETA updates?
722.7 if you eat one daily
LOL!
If you dive enough by the door, you can see bubbles down in the darkness. I bet we are going to be going down where the leviathan went for the last quest.
the leviathan will ascend and turn into the megabird, and we will never see the leviathan again. tgc will make our dreams come true and shatter them at the same time 
I do agree in thinking we're going deeper, and who knows? Maybe we'll see that odd mural/disc down there
if they make the current deepest depth into a level transition into another level
I feel like they might build a new level inside the lighthouse
Or like put a level transition there
I would love to have this thoo

Tiger mask changed yet again!! I didn't notice
Isn't in beta archive from what I can see I was skimming.
Wait again? Just looks like the one change where they just added white
The diamond became filled in. And more gold added I'll put in screenshots
Is that a new change or am I buggin rn?
I think the one in news is just the tiger mask under bright sunlight
The screenshots I posted in beta screens though aren't they dif? I'm comparing my two screenshots. Did the mask change to close diamond a bit ago and I didn't notice?
I can't find in voi's archive when it changed 
It changed in the 12-2 update
Do you guys think in the future we’d see expansions to existing seasonal areas? Maybe underwater versions
Honestly I wouldn’t rule it out but i ALSO wouldn’t treat it as a given
I mean... Why create a whole new mechanic if it won't be used in some distant future? 
At the very least future seasons can be built on that: new puzzles to solve, new places to discover via diving in certain areas, hidden mysteries.
just checked, the diamond is still there in the news images 
I find diving pretty cool, the world might expand in general with this.
I do too i’m just not sure if that’s how they’ll expand on the mechanic
Or if this won’t be the last underwater season
I wouldn’t mind either
Cus i think both are an opportunity to like give the players who were expecting diff aesthetics something to satisfy them
i'd love to see them expand isle with diving 👉👈 i know it's barren because it's a tutorial area but it's impossible to dive on your first run through isle, so having new underwater content could kill two birds with one stone by making isle less boring for older players and giving us more diving stuff all without disrupting the normal isle experience for moths 
Maybe there won't be a season which is wholly built on diving but probably might have something like a cave or a building you can enter only if you know how to dive.
That could work too
Idk for now its just speculation but i like the ideas put forth
This is actually pretty interesting, like... Thi is where your journey begins and you come back to find more secrets 
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
Skybot is probably sleepy...
I mean, we have that one wl on top of the hill in the Isle of dawn
Why not put a hole up there and if you can dive - you do just that to find a new area. If you're a strey moth - there's another way out since they can't dive or flap back up
Let’s krill-ify skybot
Did ktjn ever say that they are not looking for additional feedback on the friendship constellation because it’s changed? Does this refer to the constellation in the latest version?
No, I can't find anywhere where they said to not give feedback about it. The current constellation is the second version of the new constellation. 
They only said to not give feedbacks on the (now scrapped) first version of the new constellation.
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
can you-
skybot hears "where" and goes " 👀 have you tried looking for it"
Only this one about a planned visual update in later dates, we can still send additional ones about the new system itself.
#beta-known-issues message
Now I ate 20 wafos, 700 left

Let’s not. 
someone I have in my friends constellation didn't have a cape?
is the invisible cape on the live version already?
no, invisible cape is not in live
weird
I think they might have finished Eden but wouldn't they be rewarded winged buffs?
unless they got krilled idk
invisi is the only way to appear capeless in friend constellation, I recommend you report that person if they truly were (scarf cape gives the look of being capeless etc)
if you lose all your wl and go capeless with a glitch you will still look like you have a cape in the constellation
even true capeless (never collected wl) will appear to have a cape in friendship constellation
alright thank you
I thought they added the invisible cape for a second
Invisi before black/white T2? 
did tcg remove the rainbow spells from the spirit tree in beta later during testing? i remember reading smth abt that
The rainbow trial spells behind the IAP quest node you mean?
yea
Yes, they did
noooooo, i thought i could use my rainbow spells confidently thinking id get a few soon anyway 
i mean it still couldve been made to live but the blog post didn't mention it sooo
I'm unable to find the post where it was said it seems, but I am quite sure a dev said the quest to gift an IAP was removed. However there seem to be trail spells behind the seasonal spirit nodes, so you can be lucky there. Edit: It was mentioned here: #beta-announcements message (the candles were a reward for the IAP gifting quest)
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
How can I join the Beta testing? I just recently found out that you have a discord server, I also didn't know that beta testing was available
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
i saw somebody in #beta-screenshots-videos mentioning it. at first i thought it was a bug so i dismissed it but when i saw the post without any mentions of the gift thing i grew worried
oh well, maybe i should pay more attention to the updates channel 
It was mentioned in the 181457 update notes as being removed
yea im not good at reading 
No worries, notes usually come out very late during the night for me, so I have to re-read several times in the morning 
Same. Just to make sure I keep all details in mind.
actually, im unsure if a tester can say they want out of Beta
It's possible, it's written in #beta-faq .
Everyone else excited for the 5th Abyss quest on Monday? 👀
Meeeeeeeee 
On Monday?
Yeah, its coming 3 days from now
Are we sure about that? I thought maybe there would be another update before that.
Here's something Ktjn said about it recently: #beta-discussion message
That doesn't really say anything about the last quest. 
The person Ktjn replied to was asking about testing the last quest
Sorry, Adome, I'm confused what your point is.
Or maybe your comment wasn't for me?
Adome's response was more for Potatoslae, since they were expecting the 5th quest to come on Monday based on the in-game timer. Ktjn's linked statement casts doubt on that since it didn't make any promises about the in-game timer being accurate/reliable at this point in time
anyone else can’t do the relieve a spirits memories quest?
Are you lighting their statue at the end of their memories and watching the cutscene?
oh so they changed it.. i usually just walk up to them in the social area
Don't forget to read the update notes in live, as this is a beta chat my friend
Yeah, they fixed it with the 0.16.0 patch
Ah I see!! I have trouble keeping up with stuff said in discord sometimes, I didn't know that the in game timer probably wasn't accurate
I mean, who knows? It still could work out that way
I think that even if the 5th quest is there on Monday, it might either not work (crashing the game) or it is in an unfinished state.
Maybe it's like little prince and we'll get a lovely "game data corrupted" message 
Like Enchantment’s where we couldn’t redeem the final quest at all
I forgot about that. But I do remember Ark being back to its first state when Flight began.
Hello, do you know if there are any possibilities for an update of the friend constellation? In order to be more organized and to be able to have more friends?
!omgomgwhenbeta
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!
Thank youuu
i wouldn't really use that as a point of reference to confirm anything. that's on par with my typical non-answer. when the next quest is ready for testing, we'll have a new build. no ETA.
That said, in the event the quest becomes available before a new build i recommend NOT doing the quest until that new build is available. You'll either miss out the content or, more likely the case, encounter bugs and/or crashes.
Thank you for the clarification!
someone will still do it for the memes 
someone will still do it, because that piece of vital info might disappear in chat or people just don't check here first
have you imagined what could happen during the last quest ? 
why beta keep getting other ts now day 
big krill come out and swim around the sea
Beta is on a separate schedule for ts than live. We dont need to test ts anyways so there's no need for it to match with live
Thanks for clarifying, Ktjn! I took it to mean essentially that the quest might not be ready when the countdown indicates, which was why I shared it
im not a beta tester but im looking forward to days of love so much
the flower crown is so cool, and days of bloom right after with the (hopefully igc) petal cape

there is presently no word on whether Days of Bloom will return this year; we only have official information on Days of Fortune & Love currently.
The petal cape was an igc last year, so if it returns for this year's bloom event (which hasn't been announced, so we don't know if it will repeat, yet) it will also be for igc.
oh boy, i just assumed it would all repeat
but thank you for the info uzephi that if it does repeat it'll probably be igc! and thanks makeli too!
Hi
I sure hope it does 
I missed the tea set
I assume it will. Every single past event and item we've had has repeated with the exception of like two(? children's day I think is one )
I wish they had different color bloom capes or different flowers. 😍🌼 Even if not, my beta kid wants the pink cape. 😁🌸
whenbeta
beta update: a mystery
beta invite: when devs need more testers
Is it just me or there seems to be a pattern in the beta invites

Probably coincidence

it used to SOMEWHAT line up with new season testing but theyve now stated that thats not the case anymore
The other day someone here thanked their friends for helping them get the invisible cape. I didn’t know that was still available? If so, how and where?
Can anyone tell me? Thanks
Here u go (original post by StarDream)
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Thank you!
Oh that’s the cape, it looks like it’s in Eden, but how do we get it? Do we need to complete every constellation or something?
Only Vault!
i think its behind the elder hair in orbit
Thanks, I haven’t gotten any of those yet, hearts are so slow to collect!
I can’t wait to try on the fish cape in live!
I wish i could just buy all the iaps but alas i’m not that rich 🥲
After seeing 1/2 beta chat sad about tiger becoming orange and white but liking that design better I finally get my own medicine. WHY DID THEY HAVE TO CHANGE IT AGAIN I LIKED THE BIG DIAMOND AND CLEAR FACIAL LINES 
Fineeee, gather around the bonfire, I'm going to play a lullaby for you! 
Sheet 13 please 🙏
Hey Skybot, play Despacito 12
Where's the next update skybot 
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
I didn't do that on purpose istg 💀
Give us dismiss skybot 
Why does TGC erase beta testers' progress?
They don't
Someone just said that to me in #questions-and-help
They don't get rid of users out of beta, it only erases progress(candles, cosmetics etc) ios beta players do get kicked out eventually if they're inactive, androids don't
By Toast
just read the context, for ios it looks like it's a limitation w testflight 
There was only one complete progress wipe when sky was first launched globally
They may occasionally wipe candles if people get thousands due to a bug
Ok
I think by that toast ment that they are kicked out so they cannot log into their account, their progress remains linked to their account and to get back into beta they have to get invite again.
It's not worded properly
You can read last few messages in #beta-faq for more info
This
#beta-faq message
heya! has season of abyss ended in beta? im too lazy to check
it has not ended
Hi all! I wanted to know if any of you experienced the same as me.
You see, a few hours ago my cell phone told me that the beta had malware, which confused me a lot, I uninstalled it, I reinstalled it but it still continued to appear, is this only happening to me?

Where did you download your beta app?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Check if it's stolen by a hacker
Um, sorry?
Usually malware helps hackers get into files or apps. Check it out plz @cosmic moth
It's probably better to check if this person downloaded their app from official sources first, rather than assume they were hacked.
I got confused with your question. Now, I get it. Sorry
I downloaded the beta using the invitations that are passed on this server.
How can I know if it is being affected by some kind of hacker?
Indeed
I think Androids are capable of downloading malware onto their devices if you click a bad link and if you also disenabled sideloading of apps.
The first time I downloaded the beta, it was in the season of dreams, since all that time, I have been using the beta without any problems and without any similar notice until now
Did you use other apps or links or files, that you got into weird sites or not safely?
Have you clicked any links lately and/or enabled the sideload thing? (Sorry, I'm an iOS person, so I'm not entirely sure about the last part.)
It may affected sky beta, if you did
or is it enabling, sorry?
that I remember I have not entered or clicked on any malicious site :c I also read that it could be a false negative of my huawei device, although I would like to know how to fix this situation
what kind of cleaning app do you use? It might be just an incorrect analysis from your phone. Happened to me a few times when using third party cleaning and scanning services
I'll leave this to the Android specialists.

that could be as well
some files my be deleted by these cleaning apps accidentally
my huawei cell phone has an antivirus by itself, but if you have any other virus scanner suggestions, I would be very grateful, since this situation scares me to be honest
i use avg antivirus on my laptop, but im sure, its on phones as well @cosmic moth
I don't see any specifics in your post. Did you scan while beta wasn't on your phone to see if you still get a detection? The current build of beta on the Play Store is perfectly fine. If you're getting a true malware hit on the app, another source infected it.
Oh, looks like another user in #beta-screenshots-videos is having the same issue
well thats really embarrassing and strange
or maybe only one specific phone does show this tho?
Actually I would not know how to answer that, since it was a surprise for me to see such a warning from my cell phone, having uninstalled it, my cell phone did not indicate any malware, but when reinstalling it directly from the play store again, the message it reappeared, honestly I'm not sure what could have infected my application.
Oh, really?
Oh no, but, this is so strange, I don't understand what's happening 
What's your exact device model? (Example: Samsung Galaxy S7)
try to clear the cache from the app
I use a Huawei P30 Lite
Huawei 
Does that even have playstore
Oh, did you update your antivirus app recently? Or Huawei release a new software update? It might be the system having new blacklists and malware requirements, and sky beta might have accidentally fallen into one of those.
I apologize if we're sending you off in different directions, were just trying to troubleshoot what might be the cause
I usually get a notification about a software update, but I think it would be better to check it directly, since as I mentioned before, when researching the virus, it appeared to me that other Huawei users had the same problem with other apps, but I wanted ask directly here since they always help me to solve my doubts about sky.
and there's no problem! I know that it is a complex issue and that there can be many reasons why malware appears
Apparently my software is up to date so I don't know what's going on.

wait till next update build and see if its fixed
This one
and you @rustic olive ?
Huawei p30 lite
Wierd lol
i dont know what might be the problem, but i hope they fix it
oh, so it's not a serious problem that I should be scared of?
no as it seems so. i see, its affected on this specific model of huawei
its mostly programming stuff
That relieves me a lot, I hope this problem can be fixed soon now that I know it's not exactly the app, thank you very much to everyone who helped me understand better what was happening!

no problem! thats we are here, to help 🙂
I don't know if you have already done it, but I did a scan with Avast and it also tells me that there is a virus in the app
Avast is the worst app to try and scan with. So many false positives. A good example is any app with terminal access (Command line) will come up as having a virus on Avast/AVG for Android.
Hewo lmao when I did update on google play just now, I also saw the malware message saying the Sky Beta has trojan in it.
My phone is Realme X7 pro 5g
And I downloaded beta app from google play the last time it's available
Any idea?
I ate just 450 waffles to wait
hi
waiting for beta invite? 
Heck no, #beta-announcements . Now I ate 50 today
Beta update when
In the next second
in the next "seconds" until the update comes
Where you at man I’m already testing Season of Luminary
||For legal reasons, this is a joke||
Dark is sus
People were trying to do 5th quest? 
but there isnt a fifth quest yet
I just received an inbox when I logged in. Strange.
It just said wait for the updoot xD
they said that there isnt a fifth quest yet and there will be with the next update build
exactly lol
I'm having a malware warning with Sky too, I'm on a huawei p30 phone. If I uninstall the app until the next update, will I be able to reinstall it later, or will I have to wait for android beta to reopen slots? O.o
I'm also a Huawei user, and my phone also shows that the game is infected with a virus.
So do I need to delete it? If I delete it, can I download it again later? I'm a little worried 
Read above today's discussion, that's a false positive
im with huawei but there is no virus notification thou
I ran a Play Protect search on my phone as per what I saw in #beta-screenshots-videos and that didn't show any viruses. So going to hope it is okay? I read the false positive discussion, but I'm also on the paranoid side. 😅
If I do uninstall just for my own peace of mind, will I be able to get in again without waiting for beta Android to reopen?
In theory yes, you shouldn't lose your access. However, one never knows what Google does, at least when catching an invite wave it seems to like telling people it's impossible to download.
Beta got a inbox message about not doing the quest but live cannot get one about the change in the relive quest so people don't miss out on candles 💀
I was thinking about that too. Somehow, I thought Live players would be more important to inform, especially since most of them are not here, while most beta testers probably are. 
I'm sure live players will get an update before 5th quest will be available but inbox would be very useful for players who don't have social media about the new spirit relive quest process. Which as Ktjn told is majority of the playerbase.
hi!👀
Sorry for being late about this, what change? I see nothing about a relive change in news? Or was that about the TS who came “early”?
The unspecified relive quest's requirement has changed and people are very confused in QnH.
I see; yes, it wasn’t very obvious that you now need to light the spirit as well. Big waste of time too… and it breaks handholding
I believe this is how it was a very long time ago, but then something happened and the gravestone version ended up activating it instead.
I liked this quick version xD
It was very handy.
Yes, more time for real life chores too
If a "bug" was prominently used by people and it gets fixed there will be some obvious confusions which they could clear out by trying to inform as much people about it as they can. Most of these people don't even know it was a bug. 
I sometimes feel they should invest energy into the “real” bugs instead of taking out quality of life little glitches and inoffensive bugs. Oh well…
Also the quest line is still showing "Meet a spirit" in some languages, instead of following the same description in original text. That's also causing more confusions cuz it didn't even mention to relive memories from the beginning.
I'm okay to watch the whole thing, tho. Just being a bit confused.
On another subject, how do you guys like the golden trail introduced a couple updates ago? I love it personally! It’s beautiful and so satisfying to see that trail when boosting.
Zoooom!
It would be nice if passengers had it too 
still wanting a reimplementation of our interseason questgiver
perhaps as event guide for anniversary…?
just. have them always at the boat or something
what’s the point in a game about friendship to rid of a character that promotes that
random, I know, but I’m not letting them be forgotten
I was wondering if we know when the next beta opening is. Do we know when it starts?
yeah. the questgiver is important
Is there a way to get through the jellyfish path in the forest realm without a Cape? I'm trying to get through the whole of sky without wings 
Yeah, just hover and jump between them as usual
I’m not entirely sure, you might need someone to aid you since it seems it’s no longer possible to just jump from one to another
It is possible when carefully aiming
When you last tried so? A month ago I couldn’t do it even with careful aim, it’s not as easy as I remember it to be
@spark lance I saw your question in #seasons-events-chat
The overhaul will not be coming to live anytime soon, it’s still under testing
I trie several times but they are way to far apart
Using anti-gravity spell
I tried it today, though not capeless just not using wing power
I forgot that spell existed 
Capeless Skykids are heavier
thanks ^^
Wait how come I've never heard of the anti gravity spell till now

Lolol.. you must have it. It's from the base game spirits. Like a glow spell. Can buy from Ark shop too
Ooh, I must've never never used it before that's why 
Let us know if it works.
I've tried using cape spells in hopes to wind-slide using wings.. even if can't flap. But it doesn't work for permanent capeless.
Yep!! Will do

Update: I cannot go through Isle and retrieve more spirits or I'll get stuck in the wl cutscene, and all the spirits I payed speels for didn't get me anti gravity, I'll have to ask someone tomorrow for help then, but thank u!!

Are you trying to become permanent capeless? Play sky without taking any wings?
It's possible. It required a table and friends with tables. We used it to hop along areas that we couldn't get without wings
Hi
is the flower crown from days of love 20 candles or 15 hearts? am confuse
I got scared when i launched the game and saw a inbox message from tgc with the title "Abyss 5th Quest"
for gods sake lmaoo
How do i get beta?
how much oxygen mask in beta at spirit season quest?
The mask at the top of the quest tree? We don't have access to that one yet to know
ohh in beta .. can i know what's ur number quest season?
We haven't gotten quest 5 yet so we are still on four.
how many days left for quest 5 comes out?
We have no way of knowing atm. The timer in game is unreliable.
i see. thanks for replying
Hey beta people, how much is the capeless cape?
until thew next beta update
Yeh I know. I sure hope it does. Thank you (:
So where is the traveling spirit
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
Spin Dancer's near the exit to Butterfly Fields in Bird Nest
thanks!
So um...what the hell happened to the "buddy statue"?
Which statue do you mean?
the one in prairie village is just...there 🧍♂️still I think. not sure what they’ve got planned for it lol
The feature was scrapped or halted before we got to test it.
I think it's kind of fun. Mysterious statue appears in prairie. Similar to leftover beta elements like the old forest entrance
Added a request statue in Prairie Village for the Guide Feature (this feature will be enabled in a later build)
something related to the spirit guide system
Still is quite mysterious for live players, no?
yup... its a cute statue doe
Is the 5th quest out yet?
It will be with the next beta update.
I hope we get the update sometime next week

when u get the beta does ur saving go away?
Beta and live are two completely different apps, the progress in one does not influence the progress in the other.
Therefore in beta you start with nothing. 
okkk
Hi, I have a question, the permanent size potions, can you make me chibi? or only the chibi mask works to get to that height? 🥺
That's not really a beta question? Are you actually in beta? If you are, I would highly suggest playing live first. Beta is meant to be for the 'experienced' players I guess, who know how everything works, thus noticing any bugs or weird behaviour that they can buy report, which is what beta for. Beta is for bug testing, not for an experience of the game (which it won't even fully provide because beta is 10x buggier than live, and new content is often unfinished in beta before it comes to live finished)
But no, permanent resize can't make you chibi. It can get really close, where you'll chibi run- But never small enough to chibi fall
So not the exact size as chibi
Woah woah woah toast, they might just have the channels a bit mixed up and are new to the discord.
They've been here since sept 2020 ahakdhs, but fair enough
Sorry if I came across rude! But that question would be more suitable for another channel is all
I've been playing for 2 years, I even have a YT channel for game tricks, I know everything about Sky, and beta for more than a year, it was just a question, I don't know :/, sorry for disturbing.
No it's all good, mb for assuming
Same here, my apologies
Unless it's a beta specific question, it's probably more convenient to use #questions-and-help , because it's a more active chat and you will get answers more quickly.

😏
Ohhh, so, the metallic bug seems to occur if you’re using “highest quality’ settings and usually happens in the last area of forest 
Tried it today in beta and in live - both times happens if you skip the transition through the arch where you get the cutscene. But if your device is capable of preforming 60 fps - it won’t happen on that quality
Skip the transition?
I usually fly around the arch instead of going right through it
Where the birds fly through from the side of the tree
The one before broken bridge that zooms on the temple
Yeah
I've seen people get it in all kinds of places, so I don't think it's connected to any specific area. It never was before either.
I got it today in forest social with 60fps 
Well if anyone try it and it happens still would be interesting to know. But that’s how I triggered it 
O, interesting. My friends in live didn’t get it at all on 60 fps 
I haven't got it yet, but when it did occur "back in the day", I'm fairly sure I didn't play on highest quality nor was I in Forest. It's probably something else that triggers it, or a combination of things that might be hard for us to pinpoint.
Hmmm. Then I’ll try to be more observant with what and how I play to remember more details
it could also be a different bug with different criteria than the old metallic bug, but still results in a similar bug. coding is weird like that sometimes
The only thing I can assume it’s just a lighting bug which breaks reflections of stone, ice and light things/creatures (and it makes them entirely black) for some reason.
I've already seen screenshot about wasteland's metallic bug too. (Btw I wish it was a feature not a bug there, so many beautiful details come to the eye
)
Always go to Eden when metallic bug.
Oh yeah. It definitely affects Wasteland in quite interesting way. We got to see our skykids with "darkness in them" it was funny :DD
Btw, someone just posted in seasonal chat that they had metallic bug in Prairie.
If you get it you can basically enter any location and it stays until you restart the game.
Yes, you can. That’s why I said to go to Eden.
Everything turned red 
that's worse 
Cursed tiger mask jiggling 💔
have they shown smth about the next ts?
betas actually more behind than live right now in terms of ts (also beta doesn't have any extra information on ts anyway)
May we get beta Update?🥺🤍 So excited for it!
I’m going to sleep i hope we see An Beta update soon 🥺
The new Update will be arrived in the next seconds until it arrives!
Excuse me, when do you have a test suit quota
Beta kids with updates be like, are we there yet? Are we there yet?
Sadly I didn’t experience the metallic bug but I did see the cartoon bug
I think I posted a few weeks back in screenshots
Nobody knows these things 😭
I don't think we're going to get a beta update before the reset, it's the weekend so TGC is not working as much right now (or at all). That's why Ktjn posted here and they sent out an inbox message advising people not to try to complete the 5th quest until the update comes out at a later time. Because until the update it may be bugged or unfinished, crash your game, etc.
refrain from spamming emojis here, thank you!
What did we need to do in the second quest again? It’s coming to live today and I forgot lol
hmm was it the one where we opened up the tanks with the mantas?
the aquarium room
Ooo nice thanks!

When does the new event start?
Yes,u can
But you need to install an android emulator on your computer
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It takes a while for the PC side, tgc seems to have plans to release the PC side
Sky is not supported on PC atm
And technically it's not a beta-related question, yada yada, I'm a boring old 💨
China's mumu Android emulator supports the PC side, and the picture quality is much better than that on the mobile phone, but it needs to be set, which is also related to the configuration of the computer
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I am so excited for nothing after the reset
iirc they haven't released any info regarding them developing a port to PC
5th quest is not next reset 
anyway, tomorrow is a work day so we may or may not get an update before its available
Isn’t available in about an hour already? They won’t have time to push an update before that, since it’s still midnight in LA.
expect crashes and whatnot 
its in 24 hours, so the reset after the next reset
There's a ship selling something at Home in beta server. it'll open in two days. What day will come in two days?
We have no idea as you are 
Any info will be in #beta-announcements if something comes up.
It could also just be Sky merch, since the shop is down for maintenance currently .
Ooo, sounds interesting
Man, how is everyone's quest 5 going?
Didn't you see the ping in game's inbox?
They suggested not to start it until update
Darling
I'm joking
Ah, ok 
but what would hapen if-
Depends if any beta testers are brave enough to try it for "archival purposes" 
I’m sure someone is brave enough.
For science!
What happen to beta?
we haven't started crashing yet
wym
shouldn't the lantern message in live version be the new design as it was in beta version considering this post in #beta-known-issues #beta-known-issues message ?
probably a bug that carried over to live
it is so disappointing when a bug we report in beta gets carred over to live version 
It's mostly because the fix haven't been made early and because of long Nintendo app review periods
Doing it for the memes
Im interested how much Nintendo players we have compared to mobile users
welll it was buggy in beta, for a while it has a simplified look the next the advanced version
We don't have Nintendo players in beta. Beta testing for Nintendo has concluded on switch release
I don't understand how does that correlate. Can you tell me more about it or where do I read about it?
aight where's the days of love new cosmetic beta item and how much it cost
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
!patchnotes All prices were in patch notes
The patch notes for the most recent update are always posted in #news. You can also find them at http://bit.ly/sky-patchnotes
kk thx
Here's a compilation
Days of Fortune and Love Cosmetic Price
#questions-and-help message
Here you go!
#beta-discussion message
And
#beta-discussion message
This means devs need to send the next update package for review even before a fix is found because Nintendo has long app review periods and very long update cycles. This can mean 7 weeks or more delay after a bug is fixed (and add additional unknown time spent between getting enough data from a bug type from reports and fixing it...) So what we see in live is a result of many weeks delay from beta in terms of bugs. Some bugs need more time to fix, some were fixed in a year or so.
why can't they push more fixes to ios and android?
I knew this will be your next question!
And quite logical and good one.
The answer is to keep cross platform compatibility. All platforms have the same build.
I thought about the same questions as you before 
@dry jetty you confused the f2p mask with the spells that give you the snorkel mask
Oh!!!! That’s right @.@
but how is that some bugs are fixed and don't reach life, e.g. the creepy flying legs from days of fortune bug
Didn't I just write? Some bugs are fixed sooner
they joined beta earlier than you did I assume, items were not wiped
the only beta wipe i know of is right after lightseekers (which is why we report deer and ultbrella owners,) otherwise everything's fair game 
You don't lose your items in beta unless there is a progress wipe, which hasn't happened since June 2019.
There is no practical reason to delete people's cosmetics at the moment.
Awwww! YES! ||Pst, fanzine coming in February! ||
Ok, please don't spam reacts on someone's message.
So i have a message saying not to so the fibal quest till the next beta update. How long will that be??? Should I just do it???
no, wait until there's an update like the message says
Hi
Hello
Okay, do you know when that will be?
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!
Okay I was just curious if anyone knew a rough estimate. Thankyou.
TGC does
There 🏃
the answer will always be the same 
The beta update is released after #beta-screenshots-videos is converted to meme channel 
@wary hollow answering your ask in #beta-screenshots-videos here. the flower crown is for days of love, which will come after days of fortune
Oooh thank you!! Sorry if my question was in the wrong channel
its ok! the screenshots channel is for pics and videos. i answered here because of that and the 10 minute slowmode 
Ofc!
Like how they havent reset seasonal currency to 0 and the season is about to end
Gonna get rich bois 😎
Gonna get our legitimately earned candles wiped bois 😎
planning to spend all on my normal constellations but 2 months of candol runs yeet 
Get ascended candles and hearts prepared incase it transfers to normal
Than we can 100% normal constellations like that
So far we still don't know, maybe we will get seasonal candles resetted before conversion.
seasonal candles will be converted as normal unless they are reset before the season ends, in which case white candles will also be wiped (or reset to a set amount such as 100-200)
either consume it now, or never
Well thatll be reasonable since i have a single white candle ;-;
Im that one person thats gonna do the last quest before i should >:)
I want scuba mask
last wipe was also stonks for me haha
now I'm looking at losing a couple hundred candles, but beta is beta and all
I know, I asked about live trying to understand for the sake of what percentage of players the developers decided to agree with such restrictions from Switch
Switch testing was on a separate server so it's difficult for us to find out what happened when it was in beta. But I don't think that's a question we can really answer anyways (unless I misinterpreted). That's more of a dev question, and even then they might not be allowed to answer
Nintendo has same strict restrictions for all games therefore its a give or take, not a question of debate or agreement.
Adding to this I doubt it's devs decision rather leadership's at TGC finding ways to reach more people counting so many factors we players can't even think of.
I would advise not to do that and wait as the message in your inbox tells you to.
I shall rebel! 
If you do, be sure to record it for archiving! (Or for those of us also curious)
I’ll be doing it as well (unless they force a delay)
If we do it and get the mask as said, will it be taken away because we didn’t wait?
I don’t think soooooo…?
Depends on if the quest will let us finish it, or if it doesn't crash. Only one way to find out
Very true. We might get beamed. 😂

Glad you got my reference there. 😂
Hello, I just came in now. When is the next time for the Android test suit?
I cant Wait for the last Quest of Abyss to be Released
only developers know, we’re regular players like you
Okay, thank you.
Beta update
doot
(183774)
Yay
ah yes, the obligatory bug fixes and improvements 
Oh thats
Over a thousand changes
Is that not usually considered much in term of updates?
"Please visit official Discord for more information" 
for a moment I thought it was for the 5th quest 
Still could be
I don’t rlly have a sense of scale for how big or small builds tend to be
I was abt to stop doing all my class work thank God it's not a big update HAHA
||Unless the update ping happens and Im wrong||
there it is
UPDOOT 
I wasn't wrong 😎

updoot
i got class in half an hour this is not the time for me to be in beta 
this mini update like the other time x)
this one would be a normal sized build. something as small as 100 changes don’t usually qualify for update notes

Makes sense then ty
Lol
But but but does it have Seasonal quest update or not?
Please tell us Sagomay or Ktjn in #beta-announcements 
It's not the next quest yet darn lol
Soon™️
if it was the last seasonal quest i think they would have mentioned it, since that's a major thing




