beta-discussion

[west cloud]

Why is the server icon a pic of season of abyss?

Did tgc themselves just spoiler us

[manic panther]

i imagine they plan on putting out an announcement/trailer sometime this week

[desert token]

yes? anything u wanted or just ping?

[manic panther]

might've forgot to disable reply autoping
i do that constantly

[desert token]

I now see they actually meant halo and not hello. I use such chopped up versions of it I forget. fyi it’s a real US naval rank, not just a halo reference

[cobalt jacinth]

Wrong channel? Post it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived there tgc staff will read and consider it

[merry nacelle]

When will the test suit qualification be issued again

[gilded parrot]

📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.

[merry nacelle]

I dont understand

[kindred fossil]

Beta is currently closed, we don’t know when it will be issued again

[merry nacelle]

oh thank u

[tropic radish]

I'm just thinking about how the mask being similar to the Nausicaa (?) one could've led to legal trouble
Or is that a too far fetched ?

[cobalt jacinth]

Sky staff Ktjn told the mask was changed to the current version because many players left feedback about it. The didn't mean to copy anything, it was a coincidence, so to speak

[cobalt pebble]

Has the ultimate mask been changed, or the "free" one bought with candles? Its been a while since ive logged on

[cobalt jacinth]

The ultimate gift has changed. You can search for voi's beta archives iirc in #screenshots-and-videos

[sly rain]

[inland wadi]

Staff making the discord pfp a sneaky spoiler

[gilded basin]

not really, i've heard studio ghibli is really tight about copyright stuff so i don't think they'd like the ult looking so similar to the nausicaa mask 😔

[desert token]

you can't copyright entire ideas; things like specific characters, music, and names are entirely different. the mask was just vaguely similar. nausicaä's is an entirely different colour - more reddish brown. stuff like the "kiki bow" already exist in sky so if that could cause copyright issues there would be no red bows in video games tgc probably just didn't want their newly made cosmetics to be associated with an entirely different creator

[cobalt jacinth]

As an outsider towards anime I see the ult more real life inspired in its current state, not so much Nausicaa -ish

[jolly bear]

I just noticed we got last quest after 19 day

This mean, the new season will be available next month in live right

[kindred fossil]

They’ve yet to reveal the teaser and launch date, I’m not sure why social media theme was changed before then

[spark lance]

Lmao tgc broke the only rule we have by spoiling themself

[jolly bear]

Let them have fun with it XD

They did hard work in making that map gorgeous 👍

[nocturne pond]

[versed eagle]

Is there a beta lore discussion section ? I want to share a theory

[tropic radish]

I just think they're leaving crumbs, like flight, but less direct (?)
If the Devs spoil it it's okay cause it wouldn't be spoiling anymore/J
And just like the flight guide, this one threw me off once more

[gentle tusk]

OMG

The server picture

[muted cargo]

🌟 Spoilers🌟 XD

[gentle tusk]

Yeah, i didn't thought tgc would already do this

[muted cargo]

Same it was fun to see tgc spoiled themselves

[unkempt hinge]

Wait I thought that was sunny in forest with mantæ
I see it now

[whole merlin]

aweee is it true that valley oob got its sky revamped

[pale junco]

Ye, the warm colors are gone, now it's all blue

[whole merlin]

i wonder why

[shadow stratus]

Small price to pay for the whole game having better graphics

[pale junco]

My guess is because of the valley elder pin, tgc wants to make it uniform so it doesn't show the buildings

[shadow stratus]

The pin sends you to the temple not to the actual elders tho, no?

[pale junco]

No, pins send you to elder rooms now

[shadow stratus]

Wow thats interesting

[pale junco]

That also makes me think if they'll add a wind wall so regular players without pins can't access the oob

[shadow stratus]

There is already is, afaik the method we have to go there is trough teleportation

[pale junco]

No, you can simply fly out the window

[kindred fossil]

I can see that happening– but the community would eat them alive

[shadow stratus]

Oh right there is 3 elders that you can reach

[pale junco]

I expect them to do what the people that bought the pins would say

[shadow stratus]

I was thinking on isle, forest and the wasteland ones

[pale junco]

Wasteland elder oob is soo cool but it much much harder to reach

[shadow stratus]

But i mean, the pin still teleports you instantly there, i dont think they need exclusive acess right?

[agile hazel]

With the current trend of decisions, it's likely

[pale junco]

There are ways to access other oobs without pins but they aren't as easy as valley one

[shadow stratus]

I know how to acess the prairie one alone, its an literaly work arround

[gentle tusk]

my guess is that is because of the new underwater diving system, they had to recreate and add more lightning/shading for each realm, for under, and above water, and some got drastically changed because of that

[shadow stratus]

^ My guess too

[sullen pike]

Wait was there a change in the valley race?

Or valley overall

Cause it's same for me right now

[pale junco]

You can't see what's above water tho, from underwater and there's no water in valley temple

[pale junco]

The elder oob

[sullen pike]

Ohh

[gentle tusk]

every underwater part has it's own different lightning scheme, and it's different from the above water parts

so they have to make 2 different lightning/shading schemes for every realm, so we can have a clean transition between under and above the water (just my guess)

[cobalt jacinth]

All I want is a non-white flash during area transitions

[versed eagle]

Can I please have y’all’s opinion on it :).

[pale junco]

Text wall

[pallid badger]

@versed eagle your post was removed. If your lore theory is beta related, we do ask that you hold onto it until that beta content goes to live. Then you are free to discuss it at length in the #lore-discussion-spoilers channel.

[inland hearth]

The Valley Elder pin goes to Starlight Coliseum oob, not the temple. I'm very disappointed that I bought the pin, and now if implemented in live, will go to a plain blue area. 😕😭

[pale junco]

Starlight coliseum oob IS the elder room :harold:

[shadow stratus]

I honestly think the whole coliseum oob is cool enough, and that being changed is a little part of it gone, but too much people like it ig

[shadow stratus]

Also yeah i wish every transition were a black screen like the flying race transition, would really help my eyes

[inland hearth]

Agreed! My family member calls it the Luxor game, as in the intense white shining light shining up into the sky from the Casino in Las Vegas. The bright white transitions are so jarring for myself and family members. Particularly so in a dark room at night.

[cobalt jacinth]

I left so many feedback about those white flashes. I hope it inspires others too to feedback.

I understand that black doesn't fit 100% in the theme of Sky but when most users literally turn away from phone or turn the phone screen away it would be nice to rethink that white "art" decision. ⬜

[potent patio]

Hello, I haven't played beta in a while and I forgot how to get to the new season area

[cobalt jacinth]

It's nice to read through #beta-announcements to see what to test and what changes have been made. as stated there you can access it through wasteland's social area.

[pale junco]

@vapid lichen
That's for days of fortune
The event is over but it was reactivated by devs to test the wax

We're gonna partially enable the fortune event so our internal QA can run some extra tests to help us narrow down some details regarding this issue. there will not be a new build for this so Light collection will still be broken.

• ktjn

[vapid lichen]

I see, I couldn't recognize it bcuz the spirits weren't there lol, thanks

[torn tulip]

No beta updates yet?

[orchid frigate]

What if the prices of the second mask is the same as the Prince?

[wary star]

i have the perfect spot to put the season entrance but no one will know it

[wanton shale]

Still no beta update since last year😢
19 days for the last quest in beta but in live 12 days, the season begin??

What is dev doing??

[slim kayak]

even if we don't get the last quest before the season goes live, it will be over a month before live players get to see the last quest, since they release week by week. they can continue to work on the last quest while the season is live without anyone missing anything

it wouldn't be the first time this has happened. during enchantment, we got the last quest after the season went live for a few weeks, and after the season ended in beta

[wanton shale]

Oh😢 😢

[slim kayak]

just think of it this way, when the update does come out, it'll be filled with content to test, and hopefully the last quest will be amazing and worth the wait

the devs also just came back from the holidays too. they don't work during holidays

[wanton shale]

Yes I think this story of new season is not complete. This story is not too good enough

But the map is very good

[desert token]

besides, are you sure you’ve found all the changes from the patches before? there’s so many things to test even with no new season content

[strong sentinel]

A friendly reminder that devs said the current timer is not up to date

[torn tulip]

Btw, what thoughts do you guys have about Gratitude returning for Lunar New Year? Will we possibly get some Gratitude stuff from them?

[strong sentinel]

Don't count days until next season release. It could be longer this time for all we know

[slim kayak]

the lunar new year event is not the same as ts. they act like grandma does in live right now

[torn tulip]

But why Gratitude then?

[slim kayak]

why not? tgc wanted to bring back old seasonal spirits for nostalgia. kind of like grandma. they didn't have to use grandma but they decided to

[main pivot]

honestly with how many aquatic creatures sky has i’m legitimately shocked it has taken this long to get a season that takes place underwater

[desert token]

granny returned for christmas, but no one thought we’d get belonging stuff from them. the gratitude spirits just fit with the theme of animal masks, and new years gratitude in general

[torn tulip]

I also remember somewhen somewhere TGC said they Ultimates might return, but in some different way

[slim kayak]

we've gotten no further information on that as of right now, and during testing the gratitude spirits didn't give us anything other than the event items, so i wouldn't count on them returning anytime soon

[desert token]

yeah, it has been mentioned in some form both in announcements from when traveling spirits were first introduced - and during the most recent dev qna on yt. from what has been said on discord the only thing to add is that ultimates will not return for in game currency

[slim kayak]

i think it's been almost 2 years since a dev has really mentioned it in here

[torn tulip]

Even for real money it would be awesome

And also kinda fair

[kindred fossil]

TFW Dismiss is coming to live but not as TS

[agile hazel]

You're just thinking too much about this. There's no returning ults or whatever, just the spirits themselves returning for an event. Not to mention 'Gratitude' is a fitting connection to chinese new year

[slim kayak]

gratitude pack rerun time

[desert token]

it’s the most dragged out hot potato topic I think we’ll stay in limbo for a p long while

[delicate moth]

I think even before ults ever return the devs probably want a lot more time to pass.

[torn tulip]

3 years is not enough?

[cobalt jacinth]

We don't know. Sky is far from 3 years old not to speak about ts system and no one knows whether TGC wants to wait. (I'd discard this assumption because it's quite unreasonable that they just want to wait for something)
It's rather devs decision which we beta testers don't know.

[gentle tusk]

i love how a lot of ppl didn't notice the new server icon yet

xD

It's fun to see their reactions when "omg the teaser is out"

and people: "what, where?"

[orchid frigate]

Wait Sky is about to be 3 soon? I thought it was 5!

[gentle tusk]

[cobalt jacinth]

Sky had its 2nd anniversary on July 18

[kindred fossil]

Not counting Light Awaits as it was a drastically different game back then, so Sky is turning 3 later this year

[orchid frigate]

I kept forgetting how old it is I just remember Journey back then

[frosty trout]

Journey, which will be ten years old this year

[shrewd needle]

Journey is amazing and set the record for being the first video game soundtrack nominated for a Grammy award. That was up against John Williams that year. I still like playing that game occasionally. Helping a beginner is great, and even better is running into a veteran. Some veterans that I have run into have shown me amazing OOB spaces in Journey, some of which are rumoured to be intentional for players to find.

Sky is a good game on its own, but compared to Journey it feels watered down to me.

[frosty trout]

dusts off the chat
I do have a very narrow question about the WIP friendship constellations--the arrows have been removed for moving from one screen to another; I'd/we'd be curious to know if folks have any particular thoughts on that.

(I have seen folks' comments, though, about feeling like it takes a lot of swiping to move through constellations, and that it's hard to see online/lit/gift status, and all of that has been passed along already--thank you! We're back to working on this now that the holiday break is over!)

[cobalt jacinth]

I think the arrows would be extra useful. I see many times beginners being surprised that their constellation can take up to 5 pages even with the current live constellation design. Because of this the even more noticeable arrows should be a consideration to help social connections and it's an additional convenience as well.
(Ing I think the question is just about arrows now )

[frosty trout]

Right. The icons and other art aspects of the constellations are the "part B" of this, so fear not!
If you had any comments on those arrows tho 👀

[shrewd needle]

Arrows are definitely better. On my phone, maybe because of the small screen, I can have trouble doing swiping. Over on live with those arrows, I have no problem switching between constellation screens.

[kindred fossil]

Arrows good, swiping bad
That’s all I have to say on the matter

[minor falcon]

I usually use the arrows to navigate in the menu, it feels more precise and fast than swiping - with swiping I feel like it over-rotates quite easily and there's a lot more motion which gets tiring quick

[frosty trout]

Thanks all! I need to pop into a meeting, but please feel free to ping me if you had any other comments about it!

[drowsy fiber]

I like the swiping a lot, also use it in the current live version (though it does not always work there). I am not sure why, but it feels more consistent/fitting/similar to the rest of the game for me.

[shrewd needle]

Would it maybe be possible for people to decide whether to display the arrows or swipe, or would that be too complex to make into an optional setting?

[tender oasis]

I prefer swiping too, almost never or very rarely used the arrows before. And about swiping i personally like the more 'sensitive' type of swipe where its not like one swipe means one page jump, but you can scan through all with one motion. Wherever i stop and release that page will be in the middle of the screen but if i short swipe that will only jump one page. But my no arrow sky style is really just personal preference.

[valid terrace]

nickname in the spirit of the Abyss icon 🚢 🏴‍☠️

...but anyway, I don't know what I'm doing here

[whole plank]

I also prefer swiping in terms of experience, but the current swipe feels like it moves in a curvy fashion, so I'm under a tiny bit of stress. I feel that it would be nice if it moved in a more linear fashion.
this is off-topic, but I find the sudden silence when I open a constellation to be empty and scary.

[limpid crown]

For me I prefer the arrows one to navigate in the constellation. I found it easier than scrolling through the Constellations. Maybe it's okay if both swiping and arrow Navigation is added just like the one in live? I also agree at @whole plank's (sorry for the ping) thoughts about the sudden silence when opening the constellation, I found it eerie.

[warm ether]

I like this season so far, but I kinda feel like the oxygen feature is a bit stressful and I really wish I could just vibe underwater. Anyone feel the same?

[bold igloo]

Swiping is not bad when I’d like to go from the beginning to the last page at once, but especially for beginners, it might be hard to notice how to get to the other pages.
Personally notifications on arrows help me often to receive and send back heart(s) or its fragments, so I hope they come back.

[misty bone]

turn right after the gw social area... you should see it

[wanton stump]

when you enter wasteland go right past the return home shine

no problem

[shrewd needle]

That is much nicer than where it started out in Shipwreck.

[polar osprey]

I like the idea of the Shipwreck to be honest however it was far away but oh well

[faint rose]

The location makes sense being at the shipwreck but at the same time it's a pain to get to

[knotty shadow]

Agreed, maybe they just moved it there to make it easier for us testers to get to

[faint rose]

Just dropped this in feedback but maybe they could have a fast travel method from the social space to shipwreck where we could get to the travel boat's old and more sensical location faster?

It's nice to be able to get there super fast yes, but a boat in the clouds doesn't make quite as much sense for getting to a watery place imo

[knotty shadow]

Like someone already said this might be a parallel to the forgotten ark, starts in water ends in the clouds x3

[timid bough]

you never know what is going on off-screen

[summer abyss]

Helloo I'm an Android beta tester and I'm returning back to Beta
I checked that I still have the invite but the app says its full for DAYS
I tried resetting my PlayStore data but no such luck
When can I install it?

[gentle tusk]

At the cost of not making sense

I think it could be on the opposite side of the forgotten arc boat

on the other side of gw

[analog citrus]

Are we supposed to get wax from the colorful fireworks wax at home? I got nothing. Tried it twice. Candle lit up like I was but it didn’t move. I also tapped out on geyser wax before the last eruption and I think grandma stiffed me on the last bun offering. All on my first time there today :/

[vagrant sequoia]

You can install it when some testers leave for it to have more space

[austere merlin]

Is the server pfp a mistake or intentional? To me it seems like whoever changed it didnt know that abyss hasn’t been publicly announced yet

[hasty shuttle]

Or maybe its their way of announcement/hyping us skids about next season

[austere merlin]

Idk it just feels weird

[spark lance]

way late, but I play on both a tablet and a phone. I find swiping more convenient on the tablet, but I prefer using the arrows on the phone because of the small screen. my brother also plays, on a tablet as well. he doesn't have beta, but he seems to like to use the arrows on live.

I think swiping should work, but the arrows should remain as well because it all boils down to the player's preference. maybe even have an option in the settings to toggle whether swiping, arrows, or both work for constellations.

[rancid sleet]

it’s a small teaser for everyone— even the pfps + headers were changed for sky’s social media

[vital crystal]

I've had rhis thought of switching forgotten ark boat and the current crystal bay boat at social space—ark has the clouds and the bay have the liquids. The huge downside is just it'll create confusion. I still like the shipwreck area for the location of crystal bay boat because of that lightning scene.

In terms of constellation buttons, swiping is weird

[manic panther]

arrows are definitely sort of a "not required, but desired for quality of life" thing (pls keep arrows)

[shrewd needle]

I agree with you. The problem, though, is I know some people, especially moths, who are so scared of Wasteland that they don't like to do it at all. They even skip the stars there unless some friend is leading. That makes having it based from the wardrobe beginning stage much better for those kind of people.

I also think it was easier to miss that spot where the boat was than it is at the beginning.

[carmine thorn]

Let's not forget, it would (I assume) be simpler to bind a controller input to the arrows than try and figure out how a player with a controller can change screens...

[agile hazel]

I mean, controller users get screwed over constantly, so why not?

[carmine thorn]

A nightmare for Sky players who exclusively use controllers: friendship trees and piggyback totems.

[spark lance]

at least y'all ios and switch users get special things, android pain here

[agile hazel]

Trying to interact with a friend while near any other interactable

I want to hold hands not light a lamp thanks

[manic panther]

i get the opposite i jsut want burn plant not read boat/look at friend

[carmine thorn]

Us Android players do get special things: random graphical bugs due to Android Fragmentation.

[kindred fossil]

Some Androids have been getting a really old metallic visual bug (2019) I can’t seem to figure out how to reproduce it, I weep

[manic panther]

someone was theorizing it had smtht o do with the Mali gpus that had the black screens from before, no idea if true or not

the S8 has Purple Dreams Village which i ADORE its actually super pretty

[carmine thorn]

Which S8 model? There are two. The Exynos chips used in international models and the Snapdragon used in US/CA models

International uses Mali GPU while US/CA models use Adreno GPU

[manic panther]

canadian

i havent experienced the metallic glitch yet. which makes me sad it looks so pretty in screenshots

[carmine thorn]

Ah, Adreno then. Yeah, we're cursed/blessed with better Vulkan drivers than Mali.

[manic panther]

i did however get a VERY bluish/dark eden death scene in my first run through when i was rushing to get to abyss
like, pure black and just the outline in deep saturated blue

[harsh merlin]

Well guys the version last update ,is different on playstore, the one on the last update notice is 182568, while the one on playstore is 182598 🌚 I don't understand

[muted cargo]

182568 is for Ios last update
182598 is for android last update

[sullen relic]

That's actually a really good point, since Switch beta is no longer running. Aside from internal testing, the closest kind of feedback we can give from here is probably via controller input on mobile, but I'm not sure what things don't entirely line up compared to playing on the Switch

[carmine thorn]

Other than triggers (RT/LT) not being recognized and D-pad not working on Android, controller inputs feel the same for me using the same controller on my Switch and Android phone. (Using a hardware adapter so I can use my Xbox One controller instead of a joycons or Pro controller)

[errant dirge]

The last iOS version I am playing is 182598 my previous version is 182568

[muted cargo]

:^ how 🤔

[errant dirge]

Idk just looked at the versions in play store

Sorry test flight

[muted cargo]

R u ios or android?

[errant dirge]

iOS

[muted cargo]

Since im android and our built is always different than ios one
Im 182598 with lastest update
Their uptade for ios in 18.12.21 has built number 182568 for ios as last

If i didnt miss any update ofc

[errant dirge]

Hmmmm interesting

I updated probable two days ago. Not push notice. But happened to open test flight and there was a new version waiting

[muted cargo]

Nope i didnt miss mine is lastest ver :^
If ur ios u should be at 182568 tho
I didnt see any patch update since 18.12.21 but its better for another ios player check their built number for u

[errant dirge]

Thanks what iOS is running?

Version?

The iOS platform version not test flight?

[muted cargo]

Idk im not ios player like i said its better a ios player check it for u
But better for u to check #beta-announcements

[errant dirge]

Thanks will do

The build is 182598

[muted cargo]

:0
When they post new update
And why im not see anything-

[errant dirge]

Interesting this update is not listed the the beta updates.

[muted cargo]

Hmmm weird

[errant dirge]

There was no push notice from test flight. I just happened to open the program and noticed the update was available and down loaded it.

There are reports in the iOS bug reports using the 182598 version

[kindred fossil]

Latest build for iOS is 182598

[muted cargo]

Well guess they updated but not listed here

[errant dirge]

Gotta love beta

[agile hazel]

Was mentioned that it was a minor bug fix update

[kindred fossil]

No update notes were listed for 182598, yes
It was right before the Holidays as well as it was a minor bug fix update

[muted cargo]

Noice

[kindred fossil]

That certain build was 2-3 weeks ago

[karmic ore]

Idiot tgc

[timid bough]

🤨

[kindred fossil]

If that’s about the TS, we’re on the Days of Summer TS schedule

[chrome ferry]

be nice, dude. that's unwarranted

[languid bear]

Excuse me, in beta which does TS come? Im curious

[kindred fossil]

It’s Shell Collector from Sanctuary, NOT a future TS for live

[carmine thorn]

We're a few TS behind due to other testing. TS are a luxury in beta, not a necessity.

[tropic radish]

Not only that beta TSes timing schedule is the same as live, but we're also behind schedule as well
And people still ask about it despite that

[languid bear]

Ohh okay thank you!!

[agile hazel]

Just report and move on

[undone lodge]

Why in beta shell collector and in live earth prophet? xD

[kindred fossil]

Beta is behind in schedule

Live i’m not sure

[agile hazel]

It's all part of the plan

[strong sentinel]

Kinda funny this bug happened before around the same time last year

[kindred fossil]

This has happened, 4 times so far. It’s been happening since dawn of the system too

[jolly bear]

Lol TGC spoiled the Next TS
This remind me , didn't it happened too with that Crab Walk xD

[strong sentinel]

Sometimes I randomly think about idle animations in sky. Would love if your avatar kinda looked around or interacted with a random butterfly... Should I make a feedback on live version?

[jolly bear]

Sometimes I randomly think about idle animations in sky. Would love if your avatar kinda looked around or interacted with a random butterfly... Should I make a feedback on live version?
@strong sentinel we already have one actually, the stretching one

But feel free to give feedback

[strong sentinel]

Yeah, I mean just a bit more variations would be pretty nice, making the game more alive

It would be even bigger geal if the avatar would react differently depending on the realm

Showing the signs of being cold in Valley or kind of squirming in discomfort in Wasteland because its pretty scary place for a child, hehe

[shrewd needle]

How come Sky doesn't have a viewing system that lets you center your avatar on the screen unless there are certain events, like the flight up to the temple in Isle? Most of the time I don't mind that off-center camera, but sometimes when I want to take group pics or other things it is very frustrating that the camera can't get centred on me and has things get cut off.

(I've been forgetting to ask that since I joined beta in 2019!)

[strong sentinel]

True, sometimes it gives you a hard time… something like a “photo edit mode” would be so cool! Like allowing you to drag camera any way you like at a fixed distance. The amount of amazing pictures players might create!

[shrewd needle]

Yeah, I just realised this camera idea is something which Square Enix added to the definitive version of Dragon Quest XI. I bought that game this week and am playing it, so maybe that is what reminded me of this question I've forgotten to ask for several years.

[icy cove]

When is ||season of abyss|| coming?

[kindred fossil]

We don’t know yet, it’ll be announced in #news eventually

[tall bridge]

Привет

[gilded parrot]

We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @tall bridge. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.

[tall bridge]

Hello

Hi

[hollow compass]

No need to spoiler tag something that is being actively tested in beta.

[carmine thorn]

No point in spoilering anything in beta chat. We're walking flying spoilers.

[spark lance]

Now that I think of it the new season gives immense abzû vibes

[twin isle]

Tgc..... Beta update pleas I'm dyin

[weak pebble]

The loading screen in live says a new season starts in 10 days

[misty gate]

When is the Friend Constellation rework coming to live

[twin isle]

!omgomgwhen

[gilded parrot]

No one knows when things will happen in Live Any Live announcements will be made in #news!

[misty gate]

[kindred fossil]

It won’t be coming anytime soon to say the least, it’s still in development

[gentle tusk]

what about the opposite side of the forgotten arc boat? tgc could make some changes there so it would make more sense and still be easy to access

[shrewd needle]

@gentle tusk I love your idea! The other side of that first area also has a default spirit and some dark plants for burning, so it might be easier for them to find the boat ramp there instead of in the opening area with the wardrobe. Perhaps you should give this idea in #beta-feedback

[gentle tusk]

I'll make sure to do it when i have time, thanks!

[eager harness]

The devs have said that is not accurate.

[wary star]

when i decide

[edgy zenith]

Oh but there were instances when TGC launched a season when its end wasn't even tested yet. So it can be 10 days in live.

[lyric kite]

It definitely won't be in 10 days in live if we don't even get an update there first

[mental ridge]

I believe the question Dark answered in that message regarded the new friendship constellation, not the new season

[mental ridge]

^ this one

[gilded parrot]

No one knows when things will happen in Live Any Live announcements will be made in #news!

[agile hazel]

It'll be ages before the rework is done

[kindred fossil]

That’s irrelevant to what I was responding to. Most previous seasons I’ve tested has continued alongside live release, I’m already aware of this

[edgy zenith]

So sorry, I misunderstood! 🙏😅

[kindred fossil]

No biggie 😊

[oak vigil]

Most we've heard in live is a countdown to Jan 16th on the login screen, which I've heard isn't super accurate? So we just ahve to wait for #news to announce it

[narrow current]

[spark lance]

Is it likely they drop a beta update soon?

[scarlet moon]

I agree. Its partially why I haven't been very active testing this season. I hate how limited the oxygen is, and I wish that the ultimate mask gave unlimited oxygen.

[torn tulip]

I feel like we gotta have at least doubled oxygen time, while QG mask for candles make it x3 and Ultimate Rebreather make it x4

[warm ether]

I don't think that would be fair though, the mask is an IAP item. I just think the oxygen system should be revamped or just removed entirely

[woeful obsidian]

Why does repeat the ts in beta?. 😩 I have all. Please some new

[torn tulip]

So at least 60 second without anything, 90 with QC candle mask and 120 with Ultimate Rebreather

[agile hazel]

If you want new TS, play Live. Beta is for testing

[woeful obsidian]

Maybe they working on an oxygen tank to wear.

[warm ether]

I actually don't get why there has to be an oxygen system to begin with though? It doesn't really add anything for me

[scarlet moon]

Maybe its similar to how we lose light in rain and toxic water.

[warm ether]

Ehh I still don't think it works for this

[torn tulip]

Well it allow TGC to sell AP for Rebreather

[woeful obsidian]

Wow
Bad mood or what happend? 😕🤔

[orchid frigate]

You mean the time where there was water in the valley lake? I still laugh about it because everyone was so confused that they had to update it

[shy warren]

How many days till the end of the season in beta?

[scarlet moon]

Me either. I don't go underwater much because one of my biggest pet peeves in Sky is losing wings if I'm not ||dying in Eden||.

[orchid frigate]

I still theorize about the rebreathers mask that the gems have little amount of oxygen to breathe through and all

[desert token]

if you stick near the ceiling you can easily regain the wings you lose from krills right now, but I also agree that the oxygen timer can induce large amounts of stress when you're trying to go exploring organically - without following the set path with places to refill your oxygen

[shy warren]

I’ll ask in a different way then. Can someone check how many days left till the end of the season?

[desert token]

they've been good about adding bubbles and plants, but unless you know where to go it can be confusing for sure. first quest had me bonking wall for 30 mins xD

the timers for stuff in beta aren't accurate most of the time - dreams was extended several times I think as well. I think the timing for the last quest is around 19~ days or so but ya never know with that either

[orchid frigate]

It’ll end probably in 3 weeks I suppose

[shy warren]

Yeah that’s true but sometimes the days timer is accurate so I’m just curious since I can’t update my beta

[torn tulip]

Btw, do Americans still have holidays? Im interested does it make sense to wait for new beta update already?

[desert token]

they're back in office and currently running some internal tests for days of fortune content. updoot is possible soon, but it could also be a while more as always

looked at the timer on the qg and it says 25 days rn

[kindred fossil]

They’ll have to catch up currently, I doubt an update is coming anytime soon this week

[warm ether]

Tbh I think that the oxygen bubbles should be spread across all areas, not just the path for quests, if the oxygen system can't be removed for some reason.

[orchid frigate]

Like putting bubbles by the gates or on like somewhere on the rocks where Brian (the krill king) is?

[gentle tusk]

the quests would be too much easy without the oxygen system, that would make the season not that attractive, for example, the season of flight quests are so easy, that there is one where you literally only need to enter the wind paths and then you can just simply watch the mission complete on it's own (i really dislike most of the flight season quests)

and i really think the oxygen is really not much of a big deal, even when you run out of oxygen, you still have plenty of time to find some oxygen bubbles, creatures or even collect underwater wax so you can go back to your exploration

plus: there's even gonna be a free rebreather for candles/hearts after the last quest (we still don't know the price/currency)

What i really wanted them to add is some oxygen recharge spells, just like the light recharge sppell, but for oxygen
OR
Water breathing spell with like, 1/2 minutes of duration, and only after that time ended, it would actually start using your oxygen

and yes, i sent that to feedback ages ago, i wonder if i should send it again, but with a more detailed explanation...

[spark lance]

I just saw someone getting, like, the seasonal pass 3 times chile

[icy cove]

Oh no I wish it was february (need cash for AP ;-;)

[spark lance]

Maybe they need to test the traveling spirits in beta before live... So we don't get another messed up spirit like the possessed fire prophet... And whatever happened at this last reset in live that mistakenly brought the earth prophet for a short while. 😂

[narrow current]

Sorry if this is old or irrelevant BUT is turtle never returning

[cobalt jacinth]

Turtle has retired

[gentle tusk]

DBJDJHFBBH don't talk about the turtle please

[narrow current]

I will pray for its return

[gentle tusk]

It hurts

[gentle tusk]

me too

[oak remnant]

teaser is releasedd i finally can break a little bit of my silence to my friends

[spark lance]

f

[valid terrace]

I'm excited, but it's...worriedly early

[warm ether]

Idk, oxygen is a bit of a pain though. I think it would have been better to implement another feature to make it harder

[faint rose]

I hope there's a bit more polish before live release, cause ngl imo the surface still looks a bit rough

[oak remnant]

i truly hope they bring back the old boat before the release

[narrow current]

Banana boat for live

[twin isle]

I really hope so too because it would feel super rushed if released soon... Maybe bit off a lot to chew with diving and new season and a goal to release it all early Jan...

[remote ocean]

I hope it too, but they one showed on the teaser was in the new location... We'll see

[rancid sleet]

i think they meant the boat where you can find the season guide :0 //lol i forgot the name ;;

[gilded parrot]

I ate it

[oak remnant]

wait----- i didn't see the boat on the teaser 👁️ 👄 👁️ yes I meant the QG boat

too many boats

[valid terrace]

not that it'd be a good thing, but maybe we might have a last-minute update as polish
like the fire prophet thing

[boreal lark]

where is the ultimate gift?

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it!

[gilded basin]

where it always is, the questgiver
if you mean the original first ult, the slashed mask, it doesn't exist anymore 😔

[boreal lark]

oh,no

[remote ocean]

Oh sorry lmao I meant the traveling ship to go to the area haha

[boreal lark]

a ship?

[viscid sundial]

This new teaser has me feeling

[orchid frigate]

Get ready for the season to go server error hehe

[languid ocean]

wait, wut teaser are yall talking abt?

[spark lance]

check sky cotl on Twitter or Facebook

[oak remnant]

https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1479259484677623811?ref_src=twsrc^google|twcamp^serp|twgr^tweet

[orchid frigate]

Instagram has it too

[vapid briar]

how are folks feeling about the extended breath timer?

[warm ether]

Yummy ty

[viscid sundial]

Extended breath ? I'll have to go check it out

[knotty shadow]

Same

[lilac solstice]

I hadn't played beta in like two weeks lol. Well I went and tested the breath timer. I found it much nicer, and I don't feel like I'm constantly needing to race to the next oxygen source now. I have time to stop and actually explore things

[oak remnant]

i personally love it, thanks! diving the 4th quest is much easier now

[timid bough]

its 45 seconds now? so with mask its a whole minute

i barely had trouble with the previous timing so it only makes it easier for everyone 👍

[orchid frigate]

Honestly the mask gives me nostalgia 😊
terrible flashbacks of me playing Subnautica 😀

[lucid star]

Still crossing my fingers for a comeback of the pirate ship or turtles

[narrow current]

Unrelated to beta testing, but i am grateful

[orchid frigate]

I can’t wait for a lot of memes of the season more

[wispy seal]

The timer is long enough that I can explore comfortably and have enough time to find the oxygen spots around me when the oxygen goes low. Thank you!

[desert token]

I’m definitely satisfied with the breath timer in comparison to the start of the season - esp with the added plants and bubbles to the quest areas. it can still be considered hard to explore organically if you have no idea at all where to go and barely know how to work the diving mechanics imo. on the other hand increasing the timer more might make it feel too redundant to even be included. I’d be happy with the timer now as someone who’s explored the area a ton. would be even more interesting to see how a player who hasn’t been testing the season feels about it though

[sinful bough]

Beta testing is available on the switch right? I just recently got a lite and was wondering if I could link my account to my switch since I'm already a tester.

[desert token]

public switch beta closed when the game went live, as it is nintendo policy

[sinful bough]

Ooh I see, that's a shame, well thanks for answering!

[agile hazel]

would be even more interesting to see how a player who hasn’t been testing the season feels about it though
Can't wait for the flood of moths complaining about losing wl

[desert token]

playing with a controller on your phone is probably the closest we have to a switch beta heard the new constellation is murder on the controller players lol

[dry light]

As someone who is ecstatic for the new season, do you guys think that the season is ready for everyone to play it?

[gilded basin]

mmmm yeah pretty much the only broken stuff i can think of off the top of my head either isn't abyss content or won't be available for a while so tgc'll have time to fix it before the livekids get to it

[desert token]

in broad terms, yes absolutely. the swimming mechanic is implemented quite smoothly, and the new area has been re-designed to help players out. the cosmetics are ready - excepting maybe that little braid ult, it’s still a bit to bright to match with most hairs. mostly what remains are design details (people don’t like the spot for the cutscenes v much) and testing for the final quest/IGC breathing mask

[warm ether]

Oh my god what if we had a season where the vault of knowledge was flooded

Wait wrong channel lol

[desert token]

I’m mainly concerned for the lighting bugs that may or may not join all the nice content when season goes live. I don’t wanna be blind in fire trial in live too

+flashy disco game breaking colours for some androids, that I was lucky enough to avoid entirely since I only play on iOS

[valid terrace]

yeah, counting on a sorta last-second update…we still have time

[viscid sundial]

I experienced the flashy lights as an android player myself but I think it's been fixed? I haven't encountered any of the flashy lights or lighting bugs ina while

[desert token]

good to hear!! haven’t heard anything about it in a while but it’s such a horrible one I feel extra anxious for my friends if it were to slip through

[viscid sundial]

Yeah I was very worried about it too! Fortunately it was fixed last month I believe, unless others are still experiencing it

[misty bone]

can you extend more so i can go oob more... hahaha =x

[warm ether]

Perhaps add bubbles to oob spots? 👀

[spark lance]

I need help with the fourth quest.. is there a guide on where to enter the tower?

[sullen relic]

I'd still like to pitch the idea of a bubble/oxygen spawning prop, kinda like the underwater equivalent of a firepot

[desert token]

try just heading down in the ravine at first

[warm ether]

maybe we could get it after we complete all the quests????

[spark lance]

Still having a little trouble I found a gate near a wall mural but can’t open it :/

[desert token]

use your honk to see a lil pointer of where to look?

[spark lance]

Ohhhhh lmao I forgot about that, thanks

[warm ether]

Lol I always forget about that

[desert token]

I always use it for spirit relive quests to see where the next spirit memory impression is before the light travels over - so I can complete it faster hope you succeed in your quest!

[warm ether]

WAIT YOU CAN DO THAT????

[desert token]

probably why moffs honk so much

[warm ether]

Moths are secretly geniuses

[cosmic orchid]

why to people actually attempt to purchase beta accounts,
like beta can easily be wiped and our progress aren't permanent
that's like buying nothing

[gilded whale]

They just want to get into BETA probably

[tribal grove]

Hii I’m sorry I haven’t been checking discord recently but I’ve noticed we’ve had different ts for a while and I was wondering if there was a reason behind it?

[stray elk]

I believe beta ts is behind, I don't remember how much though

16 weeks behind

[tribal grove]

Thank you so much!

[stray elk]

but it can be changed at any moment, so keep in mind playfight (i think) is not guaranteed to be the next ts

[spark lance]

hihi

[eager harness]

Please speak English in this server.

[spark lance]

hi is english....

[eager harness]

It wasn’t showing in English though. It’s in the rules for the channel.

[stray elk]

What do you mean it wasn't showing up in english, do you have any special characters or fonts turned on?

[eager harness]

The person edited it into English. It wasn’t when I commented.

[placid herald]

It’s not edited ??

[stray elk]

no?, doesn't say it and it could be a spelling mistake

[placid herald]

Their name is not in English but we have the right to have a foreign language name, they did not edit the message and it does says just a bunch of hi’s

[eager harness]

The message was not in English or I wouldn’t have said anything. It was edited. I know what I saw.

[twin isle]

It doesn't say edited by it like this

[placid herald]

There is no “edited” little message under it so no it isn’t edited

[eager harness]

Yes I know, but it was. I’m stopping now.

[stray elk]

I'm going to send what I see in #beta-screenshots-videos but I agree, let's move on

[eager harness]

You can send it, but I saw it when it was posted. It was not in English. But it’s whatever now. No one believes me. Goodnight.

[placid herald]

No one believe you because the little “edited” does not disappear after someone has edited a message, which isn’t the case here since the message was never edited at the first place. Sorry that you’re taking it personally but you might’ve seen it wrong

[eager harness]

If I did, I apologize, but I swear I didn’t. I wish there was a translate button for chat so anyone could speak whatever language they like.

[stray elk]

I think the free breathing mask should be moved down around the start, since the ultimate gifts can be bought with candles. Makes it a bit pay to win, but then people would have to wear the mask all the time to do the quests, but it wouldn't make a difference.

[muted cargo]

Actually i think IGC mask is kinda reward for successfully completing these challenges 🤔

[eager harness]

I agree. I think it should be achieved after the quests.

[placid herald]

Like sword pants kinda

[stray elk]

I honestly don't mind where it's at right now, it's just a tid bit pay to win, but the quests are pretty easy imo and it wouldn't make much of a difference.

[placid herald]

Although surviving under water, finding wl and doing quests is possible without any mask at all so it wouldn’t be very useful at the beginning of the tree either

[stray elk]

Would be nice to have some of those diver shoes/flippers to match with the mask

[gilded whale]

This season's challenges are so stressful lol, the fact that we run out of oxygen so fast stressed me out during the third quest

[muted cargo]

:^ that would be cool

[stray elk]

TGC is teaching us how to hug plants + fish

[placid herald]

Match those palms with the duck mask and you’re all set to explore

[muted cargo]

Stalking fish like a police who is try to catch robber-

[gilded whale]

I'm so bad at finding directions that I spent about 1 hour just to find the way inside the building

[stray elk]

Same, didn't know there was an entrance to the side where it's completely hidden where the guide doesn't even lead you there

[muted cargo]

I dont see any difficulties after 4th quest change
👀 its easy and clear enough

[stray elk]

Yeah just a little time consuming because of swim speed

[muted cargo]

Tru tru

[gilded whale]

I got so frustrated just swimming around without directions, and then KRILLS

[muted cargo]

its better than dive a krill hole

[stray elk]

Finally found the entrance.

[gilded whale]

I found the entrac- "hello there"

Is it true that if you bring a friend you won't run out of oxygen though?

[muted cargo]

This season is teached me how to glue myself to rooftop XD

[stray elk]

when gravity is reversed by accident:

[muted cargo]

I heard it patched ig

Need to try
If i had online friend ofc- :")

[stray elk]

you can friend me if you want, I'm not as active this month. I log on whenever I have time though. I do have to go to bed soon.

[strong sentinel]

I really hope yhe bug in the forest at Grandma's table won't make it to live

[hollow compass]

Which one do you mean? I just spent some time there.

[strong sentinel]

Like when it spawns incorrectly or jupms away from the table and you have to go get it

I just noticed that it mostly spawned the right way but still kinda weird

Only props were able to burn it right away

[hollow compass]

The balls, you mean? Haven’t they always been like that? It’s already in Live, plus her hovering or not sitting correctly.

[strong sentinel]

For quite some time these balls were spawning like... 3-4 pieces in one spot, leaving other spots empty. And then they'll just fly in all directions 🤣

In live you can take out white candle and it'll work too if you don't have a charging prop or torch

On beta white candle kinda doesn't really work :<

[hollow compass]

Hm, ok. When I was there now everyone there had their burning items out, so I couldn’t really see if the balls spawned incorrectly.

[strong sentinel]

Yeah, on our server just two didn't have any prop and the balls kept jumping away from the table. Kinda annoying

[hollow compass]

Was there a bonfire?

[proven yacht]

has anyone noticed that there is only one pair of pants in season of abyss

[kindred fossil]

I have, what of it?

[proven yacht]

well uhh idk i just kinda noticed just now

are there any season of abyss art?? i am really waiting for that

[kindred fossil]

They’re pretty chunky to go unnoticed. There’s only the AP FAQ artwork in-game: #beta-screenshots-videos message

None has been released officially outside of beta

[eager harness]

Are you not a beta player ?

[proven yacht]

nope im not

[proven yacht]

ty ty

[strong sentinel]

Ye 🤣

[hollow compass]

Might have been me. I was wearing white winter cape and yeti pants.

[strong sentinel]

I was a kid with horns in days of fortune cape :D

[misty bone]

as per grandma, i think the balls will shift to empty space if space is filled up by a fire pot / bonfire extra... this isn''t in live but it is in beta

or it will just randomly spawns in different spots on the table too.. in bunches often

[iron elbow]

Who else is kinda sad we'll probably not get another ult mask redesign before season comes to live?

[cobalt jacinth]

I'd be happy for new design sure, but not the first few versions.

[frosty fiber]

It’s probably grandma’s way of telling us to stop sleeping at the table, and start moving our lazy bums

[misty bone]

.-. i dun mind moving just that some of the rice balls goes under the table sometimes... www

[eager harness]

Were you on the end of the table, my left? The boat spirit hair? Lol

[frosty fiber]

Yes, I don’t condone eating food that’s dropped off the table too

[eager harness]

5 second rule. 😂

[misty bone]

as in, i dun mind it ended up on the floor but sometimes it glitches into weird places so hard to burn.. www

[terse matrix]

Hey Guys, how can I get an invite code for the IOS TestFlight app for the sky beta game ?

[hallow igloo]

Have you tried checking out the #beta-faq ? It has much more information on how to get in that we could tell you!

[terse matrix]

Yes, I read the FAQs, but understood little.

[cobalt jacinth]

No problem! Now beta is full and no new testers are needed. When devs decide there will be a new invite wave but we dont know when. More (and everything) useful is in #beta-faq , you can use a translator

[terse matrix]

I understand that I just have to check the updates and something with “invite waves?”

[strong sentinel]

Yeah x)

[terse matrix]

Thank you Tib , so I have to wait for the Code? Will it be in the “Update-Chat”?

[cobalt jacinth]

Read above and read in #beta-faq . Also minimum English is required so you can understand what beta is about (no playground instead of live version, no early access) and to understand what to test based on #beta-announcements

[eager harness]

I was across from you in the middle lol

[terse matrix]

I already understood what is a Beta🙏🏻

[strong sentinel]

The beta is like a small town where you can meet anyone

[eager harness]

Haha it is! 😂

[terse matrix]

I just wanted to know more about it and accordingly wanted to ask people for advice.

[terse matrix]

Why get to know people when the beta is there for testing and for bugs?

[strong sentinel]

Well when you have friends to help you out with certain tests - it's always nice

[terse matrix]

That’s right!

[strong sentinel]

No one in tgc is going just send you hearts every week for example to see and test some things. You still have to work for that a bit

[terse matrix]

Of course, also for new gestures and facial expressions

[cobalt jacinth]

You need to wait now until #beta-invites will be active and ping you and click the link when the new invite wave is active

[terse matrix]

Thanks, so I understood right. Much thanks 🙏🏻

[strong sentinel]

There is a little ping button under the message in #beta-faq. If you click it you'll be notified of yhe new wave

[terse matrix]

Thank you, that was one of the first things I understood straight away.

[molten panther]

Why are people so obsessed with getting into beta, I have no idea. No one is hanging out there anyway. Beta is a ghost town most of the time 😂

[torn tulip]

Especially for the past 2 weeks with no updates

[molten panther]

Give the devs a break. It was holiday season. They're humans too. But the new season is a mess anyway. Two weeks aren't enough to fix it. Looks so unfinished...

[jaunty spindle]

Maybe i'm just extremely hyped to just be able to go underwater in sky, but I don't see why so many people say the season looks unfinished...? Is there something I'm missing?

[torn tulip]

Ive never said the devs aren't ppl and dont have to rest. I just declare that we have not had updates for a very very long time

[kindred fossil]

You keep bringing this up over and over, just please have patiences

[strong sentinel]

Oof don’t be nervous people let’s just wait for more news and updates 😅

[torn tulip]

I can't

[kindred fossil]

Oh well, not my problem

[molten panther]

First of all, the story. All the previous seasons had a clear story. We knew why the whole area existed, what all the spirits did and what their purpose was in the world of Sky. This season is a blur. We don't know who these pirates are and what's their purpose.

Secondly, the area. So far we have a few murals giving us some hints but nothing clear. We have to make assumptions as to what it once was used for.

Thirdly, our purpose there. Are we helping some pirates, are we saving creatures, what are we even doing there?!

And lastly, the guide. Why is she even there?! She isn't guiding us anywhere, she isn't telling any story whatsoever. Who even is she?!

There's more but these are my main issues with this season. I'd just call it Season of Confusion.

[jaunty spindle]

ooh I see, that makes sense

[eager harness]

Patience is required if you want to be a beta tester.

[raw wasp]

Only point id make is that. Sky lore is intentionally vague

[desert token]

I think this season has a better “story” to it than flight did - by far. the little “resources” we collect are shards of power diamonds that are used throughout the world for things like switches, doors, and boats - the kind of thing the forest elder creates in their cutscene. the murals in the area clearly show that there was some sort of mine for them in the area, and what we are doing in the quests is stealing the things powering the old technology left over from ancient days. first we release the mantas in the bubble columns, and then the krill and megalodon inside the large boulder. people have theorized that the ancestors were keeping them imprisoned to extract their energy in order to imbue more power diamonds and such

[molten panther]

Well, see? That's your assumption.

The season doesn't have any clear storyline at all. Why are we even stealing the diamonds for? Do they even have any use if we're not using those "technologies" anymore? We'll have to make more assumptions. Again.

To me it seems more like the devs had on a whiteboard all the things we've been requesting in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived for new seasons and put them all together in a hurry to get us off their backs.

Why bother making it have any sense? We'll think it's lore and we'll move to #lore-discussion-spoilers instead.

Everyone happy. But are we really? 😂

[raw wasp]

Ehh

It doesnt need to be laid out clear b/c its supposed to be left open to interpretation

[desert token]

to continue the comparison with the season of flight, I am happier with an ambiguous questline that will motivate you to actually think rather than just saying “oh no some darkness blew in, go fix it” and being done. the spirits for the season were a lot more flushed out than earlier, and I liked that. with abyss I feel the appeal is the mystery. “what lays hidden beneath the surface?” and all that. I also find it unclear what the spirits’ true purpose is there, but it doesn’t turn me off the season at all. don’t get me wrong I loved playing flight, but the quests were literally just an obstacle I speedran to get me my warp-speed and didn’t have any meaning to me at all

[raw wasp]

I think the questline is sorely lacking though…

Like wheres the DRAMA/j

[gilded parrot]

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience

[raw wasp]

Thank you skybot

I will look harder for drama between the abyss spirits 🛐

I do wish there was more

Actual conflict in the crew though

There’s nothing that interesting in the quests until you get to the end of the 4th one w the cannoneer

And even then i have a feeling that’ll just be blown over

[iron elbow]

Speaking of QG not being part of the story at all, wasn't it the same with dream's guide? I wasn't around for this season, but guide doesn't seem to add anything to the plot either.

[raw wasp]

Yeah

They worked from behind the scenes i think though

I mean the guide is probably the skater’s mom

[desert token]

I think the gameplay of the abyss quests is quite similar to the flight quests in that they’re basically gather-and-return, but they’re inherently more interesting because of the danger factor and the new swimming to me

[kindred fossil]

I don’t think guides add much to the story in general, I suppose you get told the story through them

[raw wasp]

Maybe

[humble bolt]

It's not even the guide the one that tells us what to do

[desert token]

I think the abyss guide just stands out because we’re all participating in gathering the resources and they never do

[iron elbow]

honestly i still try to keep my mind as open as possible till the 5th quest is available, cause it can possibly change the way we view this storyline as a whole. suspense and all of that

[remote ocean]

I do wanna know what's their part in the story, though, because even in the small promotion art when buying AP, the figure at front isn't the season guide, like if they're not the captain (which makes sense)

Unless they're the sole survivor of that quest and that's why they're telling us /hj

[molten panther]

True. But they're usually a group leader. The girl... Why is even a girl hanging out with a bunch of pirates?! If there was a ship commander I'd get it.

[raw wasp]

Idk maybe u unlock a small lore thing abt the guide after last quest thoo

[remote ocean]

Kinda! You get told through them but also they ask you for the stuff (or so it seems). In Enchantment and Sanctuary, it's evident they're "in charge" at least

[kindred fossil]

I got eaten

I meant to say the guide is possibly the daughter of someone from the crew. “I’m finally allowed on the deck!” All that

[iron elbow]

my opinion on the guide is that they are the one that keeps the group organised and deals with conflicts in it while the captain is busy being a captain. HR, i suppose?? that's why they are the one to introduce us/get us to fit in into the crew

[clear cargo]

I kinda wish the guide followed and interacted with us through the quests like what tgc did for tlp

[torn tulip]

I always thought that GC is skating girl but old. And the whole plot is QuestGivers's memories

[raw wasp]

Ohhh 🌝

Thats the open endedness for u ig

[molten panther]

Whoa! I never thought about it that way... 👀

[stuck condor]

kinda opens up some interesting questions though. how can there be multiple spirits for one person

[kindred fossil]

Aren’t spirits fragments? Not actually there?

[raw wasp]

Ig its their memories vs the spirits themselves?

[torn tulip]

I just don't remember any time QG interacted with Skater. As far as i remember QG always watched her from the side. So i had such impression

[kindred fossil]

I can imagine a lot of tension between the Commodore & Cannoneer 👀
The crew looks like they’re all held together by duct tape, lol

[stuck condor]

thinking about it more this def does sound more believable, if the qg was her mom you’d think she would at least be there to watch her perform

[iron elbow]

ngl i thought spinning mentor was the mom

[torn tulip]

It would be funny to listen how devs intended it

[kindred fossil]

She was in the final quest watching the final performance, she never helped her practice & improve. The main storyline is that the village common folk helped raise her

It does sound plausible 😄

[molten panther]

Yes. They're all dead. Sky kids and creatures are the only ones alive.

[stuck condor]

oh she was?? I never saw her 🗿

[mental ridge]

Didn’t she give her the ultimate gifts right before the final performance now that I think about it?

[stuck condor]

forgot how long ago dreams was I should prob go back and watch the cutscenes again

[kindred fossil]

The only guide that never truly interacted with their crew was Enchantment. Probably because he died from the crash ☺️

[torn tulip]

Oh, no. I just rewatched all scenes from Dreams. You're absolutely right

[stray elk]

it's like been a year

[torn tulip]

QG is definitely another person

[kindred fossil]

Well, it doesn’t have to be literal, it can be a metaphor

[torn tulip]

The whole year I didn't know the TRUTH

[molten panther]

You make me want to do that too. It's such a lovely and emotional final scene and I love that we get involved in it and get to skate with her 🥰

[iron elbow]

dreams guide looks a lot like sparkler tho

[tropic radish]

As a person who has really small bearing with the game's lore, my current view on the abyss QG is that they're a witness of some sort

[kindred fossil]

The magic of asset reusing

[west cloud]

I always considered dreams qg to be the skater girl’s mom/parent figure

[strong sentinel]

I thought abyss guide is someone’s child, probably the captain 🤔💦

[molten panther]

And Sanctuary guide. He was a guide to those spirits as well. I like how he helped the timid bookworm look up from her book and discover the beauty that Sanctuary is.

[stray elk]

Wait, just realized quest giver passes on her ultimate gifts to the skater who passes it onto us

[tropic radish]

I also thought this was lore chat for a second-

[strong sentinel]

That’s ok. We’re just vibing and waiting the updates hehe

[molten panther]

To be honest, in the absence of any actual info from this season we do kinda start theorising to make some sense of it all.

This feels like LOST all over again. I just hope it won't crash and burn the same way 🤭😁

[kindred fossil]

Despite Enchantment not moving from his designated spot, you can see the impact of his death when the others survived, they’re stranded on an unknown land without his guidance. In most spirit memories they seem to be failing at certain tasks because of how disorganized they’ve become

[iron elbow]

so, thematically, abyss guide being the duct tape that holds the crew together still makes sense when we look at the past guides

[kindred fossil]

Yes, Abyss guide is always seen helping the spirits out in the memories

[strong sentinel]

True, they explored the islands with each of them. And they all taught something to the QG in return

[molten panther]

Hmmm.... I should rewatch the the quests and spirit memories again. This sounds interesting. I did ignore the Enchantment storyline until now 😅

[kindred fossil]

That’s mostly theorizing on my part, it’s never stated outright but it makes the most sense to me

[strong sentinel]

I still wonder what caused them to crash… the Ark I mean. It seemed they actually were important with these spells which brought the life back to area

[torn tulip]

They took too much resizes to sale to Skykids. This is it. (I personally have bought more than 60 so far. I guess other might have bought even more)

[kindred fossil]

Maybe they’re raising her, which is why they have to set their differences aside

[mental ridge]

I like to think that the season is us reliving memories of the crew, and what we do is actually what the quest giver did back when the events actually took place, since she never really does anything during quests, and it looks off to me if I don’t come up with a reason for it. Which I personally like about Sky - things are very much open to interpretation, and they leave a lot to your own imagination.

[stray elk]

Final quest is a little confusing, since you skate with the skater

[iron elbow]

this discussion made me like abyss more, wow

[mental ridge]

Ah, I meant the season of abyss actually haha. Not saying that’s necessarily the case with all the seasons ^^

[torn tulip]

Tho very beautiful and awesome

[stray elk]

but if it was past events, the skater didn't do the spin trick in the very middle of the stadium

A little off to the sides

[iron elbow]

perhaps we're reliving this moment with her as she does too (if i understand correctly)

[gentle tusk]

I don't think so, but this is really based on opinions, the oxygen system is not a problem at all for me, cuz even when you lose all your oxygen you still have enough time to find a oxygen source

[gentle tusk]

wait, when was it changed?

[gentle tusk]

i just realised this yesterday, i found it cute

[mental ridge]

#beta-discussion message
I guess at least 12h ago haha. Apparently it didn’t require an update

[molten panther]

Season of Dreams is the most wholesome and complete season we've had so far. The story, the breathtaking area, the spirits, the sense of community you get. It has a story and a sense, and it can get very emotional for the player.

Abyss is the exact opposite. No story, no info on the spirits, no emotional connection. It's just... There.

[gentle tusk]

ohhh, that's really nice!

[valid terrace]

yeah, I’m concerned
10 days feels too soon, hoping for the best

[gentle tusk]

I feel like the seasonal stories are being left behind, but i don't think abyss season is a bad season, the quests are really nice (already better than flight quests) specially the 4th quest, that one made me scared, amazed, and the ending cutscene is so good

[mental ridge]

I can see how the season of Abyss might not be up some people’s alley (much like Dreams wasn’t quite up mine), but I bet there are many people who enjoy the idea of treasure hunting with a bunch of pirate-like spirits, and discovering the mysteries that lie beneath the water along the way (the wall paintings -which are surprisingly rare in Sky, contrary to believe- are super fun to interpret). Much like Dreams focuses on the bond between the spirits, Abyss seems to be more exploration-focused, and honestly I’m happy enough with that, and enjoyed it during testing very much. Although I do wonder how they intend to wrap it all up in a single quest…

[gentle tusk]

I think the seasonal quests are about us, like we just joined the crew and we are helping them to find the crystals, but we keep learning and getting better each time, until we get recognized by the crew, in the 4th quest, because we were brave enough to face the krill king and the krills guarding that crystal

i hope that the final quest show us more of the story tho

[iron elbow]

the whole concept of pirate-like people looting abandoned underwater semi-scifi facility while unleashing ~~the kraken ~~ it's monsters is sooo interesting to me

[gentle tusk]

And i don't think this will be a abandoned area when the season ends

I'm sure many people like to go to abyss area just to swim and relax

(At least i do, if u don't, i really recommend doing that, it's free therapy)

[mental ridge]

That’s the only area (for now) that has something to explore beneath the water surface (except for grass in some other areas, I guess), so I think I can see people coming back to it whenever they want to have a swim, yeah

or a dive, rather haha

[gentle tusk]

Sometimes i just screencast my phone to the TV and lay my skykid down on the sand, in the middle of the sea foam, then i turn the volume up and just relax

[iron elbow]

if they add bubble making prop in the future, i'm not leaving the bottom of the sea anytime soon

[mental ridge]

We all need that prop don’t we

[timid bough]

there is also wax clams so

[gentle tusk]

I still hope for water breathing or oxygen recharge spells tho

that would solve many people complains about the oxygen system

[iron elbow]

it would kinda make it pay-to-win tho, wouldn't it?

[gentle tusk]

my idea would be to put those spells into the seasonal pass too, just like the flight trail spells and the mischief spells

so everyone has a chance to get it

i feel like the free rebreather should be the old rebreather design so even those that liked the old design could still wear it, just had this idea, i'm gonna send it to feedback

[cobalt jacinth]

TGC changed and removed the old rebreather upon player feedback and they don't want to copy anything so it's unlikely they will add it back

[gentle tusk]

That's understandable, thank you!

[dull tiger]

TGC is cutting it pretty close with the final quest....I'm surprised they haven't implemented it in yet

[iron elbow]

mischief/flight spells were pure cosmetics still. abyss exploration, designed to be challenging, would become a cake walk with underwater breathing. a quick and easy way to not bother with anything. while i still think rebreather with this function would be nice, it creates a divide between f2p/ap players or the players who just started sky post-abyss

[gentle tusk]

it's actually not the first time, sometimes tgc only implements the last quest when the season is already on live

[hollow compass]

How so? It’s a long time until final quest will hit Live.

[cobalt jacinth]

I'm not surprised. Afaik it was similar with flight? I understand they don't want YouTubers to leak ending even before season comes to live

[dull tiger]

I have only been in beta since assembly. I guess I just thought it would cause complications to implement it later into the live game than the rest of the season. (Please bare in mind that I only have the slightest idea on how game development works DHHDHDHD😂 )

[gentle tusk]

Guys, i was looking through some of my old pics in the beta screenshots channel, and i found this
#beta-screenshots-videos message

Did i predict a underwater season?

i even leaked the function early (joke)
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[gilded parrot]

Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions

@snow minnow as was helpfully explained in #beta-announcements, that ship has sailed... to the Golden Wasteland social-space it moved there so it would be easier to find 😉

[gentle tusk]

stop spamming

[tawny bough]

So I haven't played the beta in a while because of irl obligations (and the candle glitch got me everything in a day lmao) but also because the whole area just seemed reallyy.. boring tbh. I saw the ad for the season on twitter and I'm wondering if it's changed any? Is the ult mask still kinda' crap, or have things gotten better? The way I saw it originally is that I'd essentially be paying TGC for a mask to make this area and future water areas more bearable. The accessories don't cut it for me although I know that's not a deal-breaker for everyone, but it really felt like the only semi-good thing you got out of the whole event was a mask that really actually wasn't that great

[gentle tusk]

I don't understand how is the area boring? I can easily stay there for hours doing nothing and relaxing or just swimming

[tawny bough]

I mean the concept was definitely neat, but it really felt like it lacked a lot of polish

[gentle tusk]

The ult mask changed, but some ppl didn't like it

[kindred fossil]

The cosmetics still look really unfinished to me

[gentle tusk]

It's way more polished now

You should check the whole thing

And make the quests

Specially the 4th quest

[tawny bough]

It felt like it tried to be Abzu, but still came off too empty.. and with the mask only giving a few extra seconds of air, you couldn't really feel like you could explore how you're used to exploring in this game. It's slow and cumbersome, especially if you don't have a lot of backup wings.

[gentle tusk]

The 4th quest got changed

and it's one of the best quests i've ever done in sky

[gentle tusk]

They've changed the underwater breathing time

[tawny bough]

I think it would have been better if they had just made the ult more of an ult and made you able to breathe forever underwater, like a rebreather

[gentle tusk]

Now it's 45 seconds without rebreather

[tawny bough]

That's still way too short imo

imagine being restricted to less than a minute of exploration time

[gentle tusk]

not actually, since you have oxygen sources everywhere

There is actually way more than before

[tawny bough]

You don't have those limits literally anywhere else in the game though. I'll have to check it out a little more, but if I wanted to go from the top all the way to the furthest outreaches without the rebreather, could I?

[spark lance]

being able to breathe underwater forever would kinda take away the thrill and challenge imo. i mean, we can't fly infinitely, right??

[gentle tusk]

Toxic rain

toxic water

[tawny bough]

Both of which endurable

Toxic rain and water are endurable by spells and items like the campfire

[gentle tusk]

The rain takes your wing power really fast

[tawny bough]

but only your mask affects your air

[gentle tusk]

And underwater we have lots of oxygen sources

[tawny bough]

People with 5 wings can fly through the forest rain and not have to deal with it, and the dark water is entirely avoidable though

[gentle tusk]

And i regularly go there and spend hours just swimming and relaxing, the oxygen was never a problem for me

even when exploring deeper areas

[minor falcon]

for me it makes sense that there's a level of risk and limits to underwater exploration, you have to plan ahead and bring a group just like irl

[gentle tusk]

I always get kinda mad when i want to speedrun going into the last rainforest area, i always get out of wing power

and i always have up to 10 wing level

It's the same underwater, but we actually have oxygen sources everywhere

and we have working boosts rn, with and without spending our wing power

we can basically go anywhere we want now

It's like, everywhere

[tawny bough]

Risk and limits are one thing, but i just felt like it was a really unpolished and unrewarding season to me. I want to be able to explore down there as much as possible, maybe try heading OoB. Wanting to explore a vast area but feeling like you've gotta u-turn after a minute and ten seconds or w/e because you're straying too far from an air source isn't a great feeling when nowhere in the game are you made to feel restricted beyond Eden. All other examples are entirely avoidable, especially with spells or props

[gentle tusk]

That's why i want water breathing and/or oxygen recharge spells

[gentle tusk]

and again, i spend hours in there with no problem at all, and it feels rewarding for me. if you really try to spend some time in there, you'll pretty much enjoy it, at least i always do

[tawny bough]

The cosmetics, also, seem dull 😬 but that's just me

It really does feel, to me, like "buy this mask with quests attached"

[spark lance]

When you start out in the game you're limited by how high you can fly, thus reducing the amount of wl you can get

Forest limits you from being reckless with your light while be littered with light sources.

Why should it be any different with this new season?

[gentle tusk]

Some are really good, and some are meh, but at least the free cosmetics are really good

[tawny bough]

You're not at risk of running out of light just by walking around, though, unless you deliberately stand in the rain or in the dark water

There are also countless avenues to recharge your light

[spark lance]

Same can be said by diving in recklessly and not trying to learn the recharge spots

[gentle tusk]

you are not in underwater too, unless you don't want to find a oxygen source

those are literally everywhere

[tawny bough]

The difference between those areas and the water area is if you lose your light you can walk around and continue exploring. If you lose your oxygen you get punished if you end up losing your light.

And for what?

[spark lance]

well oobs aren't techinically part of the real gameplay so being able to breathe underwater forever would be
again, we cannot fly forever too, but we have clouds and even props that can recharge us, plus this diving feature is still new. who knows what contents the devs plan for the future that recolves around this

[agile patrol]

the difference is that its easier to recharge on land, with blaziers and stuff and youre good!, heck, even at the end of the forest you can stop the rain

[spark lance]

You can't explore certain areas of GW without getting spotted by krills eventually.

[tawny bough]

Yeah you can

[spark lance]

God forbid the devs try to make the game more entertaining

[tawny bough]

I've been playing for a few years; the krill are dumb as rocks, and once they see you avoiding them is easy anyway.

[gentle tusk]

if you lose your oxygen you still have plenty of time to get to the surface or to a oxygen source

[tawny bough]

You're missing the point lol. Here's the thing-- if I felt like I had to turn around and run to the last bit of butterflies I found lest I risk losing my winged light in places like the isle of dawn, or anywhere, exploring wouldn't feel fun.

Exploring in the abyss doesn't. feel. fun.

[spark lance]

++ I also think that the ult masks are def not worth getting since those few seconds won't make much difference. I'm still hoping they extend the oxygen level by the masks to about a minute. the 30s of breathing time before was already fine for me and they extended it to 45 seconds

[tawny bough]

The only way to make it more bearable, not fun, but bearable, is going all the way through th 20$ event to get a mask that extends it by a pinch

[spark lance]

But that's subjective, Idk how breathing forever is going to make the area fun

[tawny bough]

Maybe not forever but way more than it has been

[gentle tusk]

it's actually less riskier to explore abyss, the hardest thing to do there is lose wl

I always have fun there

[minor falcon]

I think exploring in abyss is fun, finding workarounds for our limitations and working together can overcome the obstacles that the game gives us

[spark lance]

Could the same argument not be made when it comes to flying? Its still new! Let it be. At a certain point we'll be able to dive longer

Let ideas play out

[tawny bough]

All in all, it still feels like the only worthwhile thing you get out of the event is the mask, and the mask itself isn't even that great. I hate feeling like I'm on a short timer for exploring a large area, no matter how many "air bubbles" there are.

Having to constantly micromanage a little gauge or risk losing my light isn't fun ¯_(ツ)_/¯

[gentle tusk]

Flying used to be really stressful back then too, by some older beta tester words

[steady flume]

personally I don't explore the areas where you have unlimited oxygen nearly as much as the deeper parts of treasure reef. once you swim a few laps without having to watch the oxygen meter you've already seen everything... while figuring out where to recharge and how to get to a certain point keeps things interesting for me

[tawny bough]

Sure, unlimited would be too much I agree, but it still would have to be way more than it is for the mask. For an ult, it doesn't feel much like an ult.

[steady flume]

I also did most of the quests without the mask and didn't have too many problems once they added new plants

[spark lance]

We're at a point where it's become redundant, maybe change out the ult for something else?

[pale junco]

If all of your opinions are based on the first build then i'd suggest you go and explore again, the area and mechanics are different now

[spark lance]

yes, like bringing back the old design /j

[gentle tusk]

same here, i even have footage of it for my yt channel

[tawny bough]

I did play the game recently to see how they extended the mask timer, but I still didn't feel like it wasn't that much of a buff

[gentle tusk]

it was changed again like 12 hrs ago

[tawny bough]

Like I have no problems with the area itself apart from thinking it needs a little more polish

It's more the mechanics and the reliance on getting the mask when it doesn't help that much in the end that bugs me

Because this area aside, we know there's probably going to be more areas in the future that will make obtaining the mask a boon

[pale junco]

Personally i think it's fine 15 seconds more doesn't seem that bad since there are multiple places to recharge from, after exploring and getting a idea of where everything is i can easily go everywhere without the mask
In fact i haven't used the mask after the first few builds

[tawny bough]

It's just not a very impressive item and if there's going to be more water areas in the future it should be a little more, especially for the last ult-- assuming it's still the last ult

The last ults have been neat but they really jumped the shark with the campfire imo

[pale junco]

I'm sure tgc will make sure we'll be able to explore without the mask, just like in forest where umbrella may be helpful when you have less wedges but when you have 7+ you don't need the umbrella. Less wedges can be compared to having less experience underwater or having less recharge spots but after you get a idea of where everything is or if there were more recharge spots you wouldn't worry about it too much

[steady flume]

I've also seen many people say that the ult doesn't feel "ultimate" enough, when the devs have pointed out that the "ultimate" is supposed to mean something like "final"

[tawny bough]

Which is a bit silly because it never used to be "just" final

Belong(?)'s campfire is one of the most, if not THE most, useful items in the game

[stray elk]

a little more that doesn't give an advantage at least because p2w stuff but the mask barely changes anything so its fine

[tawny bough]

You're practically OP in every area barring this one

[steady flume]

but that's way in the past, the last seasons don't have very useful gifts

[tawny bough]

Yeah

This would be the first useful gift in a long time, but it's not very useful

[pale junco]

There was a discussion about it earlier too

[stray elk]

but if they buff the gift, it'd be considered p2w since you can buy candles

[tawny bough]

I mean, the same could have been said about the campfire too

[steady flume]

not sure about the accurate numbers but i think it doubles the time you can spend underwater or something like that, to me it makes a big difference

[kindred fossil]

Wasn’t the bonfire nerfed though? Didn’t it used to hold dark plants at bay?

[tawny bough]

It was nerfed in that you can't light it in the rain, but you can solo yourself through Eden super easily with it, and you basically never have to worry about light sources ever again

[spark lance]

the ult masks?? not really

[stray elk]

bonfire got nerfed around sanctuary and now there are replacement options, but it doesn't really save any time since you have to wait to recharge

or was it prophecy?

[tawny bough]

I mean. I have the campfire on my main account and not on my beta. The difference is staggering.

[kindred fossil]

Bonfire is still the fastest portable recharge though, doesn’t take much time to recharge at it

[tawny bough]

Yeah

It takes about a second per wing

[steady flume]

I can imagine that in the past when they had op ultimate gifts enough players complained about it feeling p2w so that tgc had something else with ultimates

[stray elk]

huh, I hadn't used it in a while. My b. I don't mind if the mask is buffed, it's just something to think about.

[stray elk]

probably the case with bonfire

[tawny bough]

In the end, some may have no trouble with the area, but whether or not the masks will make things easier for others is definitely still a real possibility. It doesn't feel like the swimming mechs got updated that much either, because it still feels pretty janky. Not everyone is going to feel the same about how easy it is to swim about the abyss for X reason, and the mask will undoubtedly be a boon for those people.

Just. Not very much.

[steady flume]

i feel like then the right approach would be to make changes to the diving mechanics rather than adding more seconds to the ult mask

[tawny bough]

You could definitely do both without going overboard

[pale junco]

I think the free one will give 5 second extra

[spark lance]

tbh, the free one and the ult mask should not have any difference except for the design

just like the umbrellas from the lightseeker

[pale junco]

Then watch the chat burn

[spark lance]

kinda makes the game p2w

[kindred fossil]

No I’m sure the ultimate umbrella shoots lasers at krills

[steady flume]

does the ultimate umbrella cover a wider area than the normal one? just curious I don't have it

[tawny bough]

nop

[torn tulip]

I personally dont like this idea, because in this case you will have a finite number of chances to swin wihout much thinking. While prop gonna stay with you foreva

[pale junco]

Days of summer umbrella with it's krill catching net:

[steady flume]

rip f2p players, they have to evade krills the old way with their free umbrella 😔

[pale junco]

You can use the free one as a sword to fight them 😩

[spark lance]

just like slaying the dragon

Since we're critiquing cosmetics, which ones do you guys think need a redesign and which ones are actually perfect and need no touch ups?

[pale junco]

Except it slays you

[terse yarrow]

Is it possible for beta to have 12 wedges ?

[pale junco]

Looking at the theme i think all cosmetics fit very well

[terse yarrow]

Ok 2 12 wedges are in front of me

[desert token]

if they let you light them, which is doubtful, report em

[spark lance]

i'm defending anxious angler's cape with my whole life 🤺

[desert token]

personally I dislike the lil hair ult the most since it has such potential and then just doesn’t match most hairs

the acorn hat and brown (tier 2 moff when ) cape are my favorites

[gentle tusk]

I think some of the abyss cosmetics are meh, but i can see myself using all of them

[twin isle]

I've sent in feedback each build about the hair braid still being off in olor with multiple screen shots and I get so sad bc that's one of my fave things.

I was so excited.

[pale junco]

Didn't the masks had a little glow in first build or was i just seeing things because a little blue glow would look cool

[gentle tusk]

the only thing they changed was the size

[twin isle]

And the little clasp on the braid

[gentle tusk]

i think it was because of the lightning, but idk

[twin isle]

I think Cy was the one who did the edit but whoever edited the old ult mask that got scrapped to be red with gold scars made me so hopeful they'd change it to be that. It would have matched the cape so well.

[spark lance]

With about a week or so left, do you guys really think they'll be massive changes to the cosmetics? Like very drastic ones?

[twin isle]

I unfortunately do not think much will change.

[spark lance]

Would've convinced me to buy the AP actually

[spark lance]

Then the diving mechanic is going to carry this season tbh

[kindred fossil]

Not much? There’s a lot of clipping issues with the current cosmetics

[twin isle]

I just meant in terms of design and polish. I definitely would think they'd fix clipping but the flight wigs did the same thing and still do, I believe.

Edit: wigs??? 😭 I meant hair but omg what if sky kids just wear wigs

[gentle tusk]

The quests tho

4th quest is amazing

i'm too much excited for the last one

[spark lance]

Can we say the same about the first three?

[gentle tusk]

I hope it's just as good or better than the 4th one

[pale junco]

Not doing the 4th quest in live because i want to keep the beautiful beast in the cage

[gentle tusk]

the one where you free the mantas is amazing too

[desert token]

plot twist: bald hair is also a wig

[gentle tusk]

xD

[hollow compass]

Tilda Swinton as The Ancient One.

[twin isle]

Honestly I think the visuals in the quests also would carry the season. I love the mega krill and just think the cutscenes for when it is released is so cool and almost horror game-esque. Beautiful visuals with the flashing light and scale on the creature compared to you. Such strong feelings for me when I saw that.

[gentle tusk]

The cutscenes from the 4th quest with the big krill and the gate opening amazed me so much

[desert token]

true blep, the intrigue continues maybe there’s just lava under there

[twin isle]

It was horrified awe for me. I thought it was beautiful but also was like "please don't let that come get me with many rows of teeth "

[gentle tusk]

i felt too many things on that part xD

i was scared, amazed, horrified and excited

at the same time

[twin isle]

Same. And in terms of cosmetics, I like a few cosmetics but the edits I've seen of my favorite cosmetics makes me feel spoiled by the artists because I just want those changes so bad. The jacket was given a revamp and blankie cape had some additional really light patterning added up by the neck area. It made me want so bad. I mean in chat btw not in beta.

[night dawn]

So um I know I'm not a beta tester myself but, I just like to spoil myself by watching beta videos about Sky and I was wondering, do you all think that since so far TGC has made an ox and tiger mask, do you all think they will make special masks for each chinese zodiac when the year's animal is this or that ?

[gentle tusk]

But overall, my rating for this season is 9/10, this is the season that most amazed me since i started playing sky

[twin isle]

I sure hope so. I live to see how they create them so far.

[gentle tusk]

(that i've fully experienced, not talking about past seasons)

[pale junco]

Snake mask would be cool

[night dawn]

My chinese zodiac is actually the snake and I really wonder what TGC would design for a snake mask, but then I think about the bunny being an animal on that zodiac and I can only imagine a super cutesy bunny mask with the ears !

[gentle tusk]

if i had experienced season of dreams i would probably say that it was the season that most amazed me

[twin isle]

Mines the ox and I love the mask for it 🥺 I feel special. I always hated being the ox but the mask is beautiful.

[night dawn]

I agree the Ox mask looks really fricking amazing

[desert token]

slytherins unite

[night dawn]

Ngl I have no idea anymore what's my hogwarts house after taking the test at multiple instances

But my chinese Zodiac is the snake snek

🐍

[steady flume]

i wonder how a horse mask would look

[night dawn]

If I were born one year earlier I would have had a dragon...

🐉

[desert token]

horse prince

[night dawn]

NOOO NOT THE HORSE PRINCE 😭

[twin isle]

Tbh I think that seeing how the seasons develop in beta also make me appreciate them more. I know I have a lot to say on what I'd wish would happen, but watching it go from a rough idea into a polished item and seeing it change over time into something more than it was really impacts how much amazement I have.

Also can't wait for boar mask bc demon slayer people would go wild. That's the anime right? I think I haven't watched but I think I've seen people trying to cosplay the boar head guy

[gentle tusk]

I feel the same, but at the same moment, i still wish i had the same experience when the season goes live, the only thing it makes me excited to play, is for the quests and to match the cosmetics with the ones i already have

[night dawn]

So far I really like the Ox and Tiger mask though I know the Lion mask is basically like, a big thing during chinese new year festivities but isn't a zodiac itself hmmmm

[gentle tusk]

because i already experienced it

[night dawn]

BOAR MASK OH NO 😭 INOSUKE NOOO (KAMADO GONPACHIROU)

[steady flume]

yeah and this season especially feels like such a big thing to me. they introduced a whole new mechanic and it can be used in every realm, not just the new area. it feels like there are so many new opportunities

[twin isle]

So much to explore!! I'm already excited to go to treehouse and CF under the map. I accidentally clipped under there one by chance and when I swam to the river I felt like I was under water. Everything turned blue and gorgeous but I was launched up into the river and out from under the map. That's what made me want an ocean based season in the first place.

[gentle tusk]

imagine if every season after this one has a underwater area with things to explore and lots of things to do in the surface too

like a mix of both

[night dawn]

So um, ya'll must have experienced the beta testing for this year's Days of Fortune and Days of Love, but did you guys have the beta for this year's days of bloom so far ? I just, I really need to know if stuff is returning 👀

[twin isle]

I didn't think about how they could add more underwater cool areas to explore in future seasons!! What if we had an under water city like Atlantis or something

[kindred fossil]

No, nothing about that yet

[twin isle]

Not yet! No bloom testing yet.

[gentle tusk]

THAT WOULD BE AMAZING

[night dawn]

😭 I just, ever since I saw those Days of Bloom items I've been OBSESSED ever since

I'M literally saving my hearts for the Bloom hair's possible return

[twin isle]

Me too omg I'm so excited to see what they'll do for new bloom items this year and days of rainbow. I want flower hair but for masc presenting people

[pale junco]

What

[night dawn]

I NEED MORE PINK PETAL FLOWERY ITEMS 🌸 🌺 🩰 😭

I WANT THEM

[steady flume]

i really hope they gradually add some new underwater areas in different realms it sounds like a lot of work but it would help with implementing the diving mechanic outside of treasure reef

[night dawn]

I'm also totally going to buy the Cherry Blossom tea Set table if it comes back even tho it's IAP

[pale junco]

Why is skybot eating my message

[twin isle]

Skybot dusting you 😔

[night dawn]

Omg imagine they add the underwater levels like one each week like that forgotten ark quests with one light to find every week ?

[twin isle]

||blossom viewing lamp but it recharges ur wings|| I'll stop now lol.

[night dawn]

Also for the Days of Love Passenger boat, ngl I kinda wish they added like hearts and more on it idk

[twin isle]

I just want it to not sink when I step on it

[night dawn]

IT WHAT

[twin isle]

I think it adjusts based on height how much it dips down when you step on it. That or just bc they made the boat smaller it's gotten more noticeable that it sinks further. But currently when I go to step on it it gets waterlogged

[night dawn]

Also Days of Love just reminds me now of how long I've been single now 😭

[night dawn]

Ooooh

Do ya'll like the fish cape and hat for the future days of fortune ?

[gentle tusk]

[night dawn]

Y e a h

[gentle tusk]

I love it, i think we should get more capes like these, and please, one for candles/hearts

[night dawn]

I mean I don't think it's a bad design but I personally don't like them I think I'll just get the tiny fortune fishy head accessory and not the cape nor the hood

[gentle tusk]

I love the cape, cuz it's like the lp cape, you can see all your cosmetics

[night dawn]

Yeah true

[gentle tusk]

And for some weird reason it matches with the mischief dress and hat

[night dawn]

U h

Omg do you have pictures I can see

[gentle tusk]

sorry, i'm on my laptop rn

[night dawn]

It's okay

[gentle tusk]

but let me check, maybe i have posted some in here?

if i did i'll send you

[night dawn]

Thank you

[gentle tusk]

Sorry, i looked through all my posts, couldn't find it

[spark lance]

for real though, i would love at least sanctuary to have an area where you can dive

[gentle tusk]

You can but you can't barely see anything

[spark lance]

oh yeah im aware, if only it was similar to TR 😭

[remote ocean]

The cape is hmm. Okay ish

But the little hat 😭 looks like a professional diver is in town with their helmet, it's so cute

[night dawn]

h m m y e s

[rancid sleet]

i love the collar for the fish cape, i hope we see more stuff like it soon

[raw wasp]

I like the fish cape in general tbh

I’m saving my money for other stuff, (teaset 🌚) so i wont be able to buy it but

🌝

[spark lance]

When is days of fortune?

[cobalt jacinth]

!omgomgwhen

[gilded parrot]

No one knows when things will happen in Live Any Live announcements will be made in #news!

[ashen dragon]

Is the starry Colosseum oob really gonna get removed?

[drowsy fiber]

As far as I know, it is still accessible. However, the lightning changed and so it looks different.

[ashen dragon]

Ohh okay

[kindred fossil]

No, where are those rumors coming from? Only (catastrophic) lighting changes has affected the area

[ashen dragon]

I saw someone say something like

The Valley Elder pin goes to Starlight Coliseum oob, not the temple. IIRC, this was changed mid-2020 from the temple. I'm very disappointed that I bought the pin, and now if implemented in live, will go to a plain blue nothing area. confused

[drowsy fiber]

I guess the rumors come from those lightning changes... Wouldn't be the first time "Big changes"/"a bug"/"a message taken out of context" falsely lead to "Oh no this is gone!"

[hardy silo]

i havent opened beta in months hello

[kindred fossil]

They’re disappointed the pin is useless now since the lighting changes no longer deems it attractive in their eyes, nothing stating that the area is no longer accessible to no-pin users/OOBers

[fast skiff]

Beta testers are discouraged to fulfill outfit requests, please kindly delete your massage and check pins of #beta-screenshots-videos—keep in mind that Beta is for testing purposes only, not previews.

[spice crown]

Oh ok : (

[merry pewter]

someone remind me if the 'no more twilight colloseum' thing is a rumour or happening, just did eden and don't have the wing to fly up there (also phone might have died while playing 😂 )

[drowsy fiber]

As far as I know, it is still accessible. However, the lightning changed and so it looks different (very blue from what I saw as screenshots).

[merry pewter]

that's a shame, it's my favorite oob
spent so many hours chilling there with friends

[night dawn]

Guys I forgot but is there an instrument given in the Season of Abyss ?

[twin isle]

Nopee

Also tgc beta update pleasssse pspspspspspsps

[brave hamlet]

Am just wondering if players from beta server who are also playing on the live server could have the beta wing... That would be awesome TGC 🔥😎

[midnight herald]

I bet if Anxious Angler become a Ts, Its Gonna Be An Expensive one

[cosmic orchid]

update will come when it's ready

[twin isle]

Ik it will I just want to get one before I go on a vacation on Sunday because if one comes out while I'm away I won't be able to play until the 17th. Probably won't happen, but fingers crossed.

[twin isle]

Also I don't think so. Pretty sure they said that was just for early beta players who really helped the game along. I think they said they dont have plans to reward any beta testers now in live game. Makes sense bc there's so many of us. I'd like a gift too, but also don't think it's likely. Plus being in beta is kind of its own reward. Many people want in.

[unreal geode]

either they've been working on a big update or they haven't had much to fix a mystery...

[twin isle]

True. I guess we'll find out soon enough.

[versed mountain]

does anyone have a screenshot of the ultimate gift mask before it was removed?

trying to show my friend but lacking a picture haha

[twin isle]

Search "voi's beta archive" and scroll down. It's on the first page of results.

[versed mountain]

thank you :)

[cosmic orchid]

#beta-faq message

The original Beta Cape reward was a one-time gift from TGC for testers who helped us test Sky prior to the launch of the global version of the game. They were a huge influence on the game we all know and love today, and we wanted to give them a special “thank you” for all the time and effort they put into helping us create Sky.

As of now, we don’t currently have future plans for additional Beta tester rewards.

see #beta-faqs for more details about beta

[lilac bobcat]

Well other than that Beta has an exclusive cape that live doesn’t have. The capeless cape

Which I still don’t know why that hasn’t made its way to Live

[oblique fractal]

It will come into live whenever the devs want it to

Perhaps some day, or maybe never. No one knows

[brave hamlet]

As I remember you can unlock the "capeless" if you have all the cape

[west hinge]

can you swim in other realms besides just the new seasonal area?
--curiouse liveboi

[faint rose]

Some water in other realms is diveable but it's all shallow with nothing really in it, but it could always change in the future

[west hinge]

aww bru
there's so much potential once again lost smh

the pond in prairie and wherever else being just deep enough you'd have to dive in order to be able to reach new candles at the bottom

the lake in prairie cave, the deeper trenches by the forest temple at the bridge area

give in incentive smh, and then maybe at the next days of earth or nature they could add a coral reef somewhere in the deeper waters by the little isles at prairie

that really sucks ngl

[timid bough]

you can dive into any pool of water as long as its deep enough and not black water

[west hinge]

yes but I'm saying they could have made the be a point to do so, but if they didnt do it already im sure diving will then perpetually be just a single-season/area gimmick rather than a fully fledged mechanic

just like trials: the only place where moths have to suddenly and aggressively be good at platforming, then never use it again

it's random

but at least compared to trials, this was a solid mechanic rather than a concept of platforming; putting candles at the bottom of lakes and ponds would've been much easier than reshaping realms to have platforming

[cosmic orchid]

#beta-discussion message

they've been removing candles underwater iirc since it doesn't make sense

maybe in the future, the water's in Sanctuary will actually have something under it that would give players a reason to dive

[west hinge]

they have??
yikes

but it's the only reason people would dive!
rip
perpetual gimmick once more again then, to join the spells, hearts, and player interactions......

[raw wasp]

I think they’ll probably expand upon the mechanic

Esp since its all over the place as opposed to being concentrated to one place like a trials

[west hinge]

i wouldnt bet on it, but if they eventually do at the end of this year then that's cool ig

iirc if it's not here yet it's not coming soon bc it takes them a while to greenlight such things, especially my wish they'd beautify and deepen sanct

[raw wasp]

Mm

We’ll see 🌝

[raw wasp]

Also i would proooobabblyyy

Point out that theres shells in the new area

That give wax

[west hinge]

underwater or on the shore?

[raw wasp]

Both

[west hinge]

well, like, shallow water, or deeper

[raw wasp]

I THINK both

But mostly in shallower water

[west hinge]

mm
ig we'll see then

[raw wasp]

There are exceptions thooo

[west hinge]

lol yes?

[timid bough]

most underwater areas minus the new area has this eerie glowy fog, so there is nothing out there

[west hinge]

yeesh

[timid bough]

of course maybe in the future they can beautify other underwater areas like sanctuary

[west hinge]

still i dont just want only specific hot spots like abyss and sanct

it should be an actual mechanic la sigh

[timid bough]

but to beautify all all areas? either they make a procedural system or use a lot of time to do it manually

[west hinge]

no to make all places worth diving at

only sanct really needs a coral reef

[timid bough]

not to mention how it will bloat levels even more

[west hinge]

to add little groups of candles clams in ponds and lakes?
i dont see that bloating areas exponentially

[timid bough]

no, to add underwater content in every level with bodies of water

[west hinge]

well im just talking about wax under waters, so that we have an incentive to use the diving mechanic in more places lmao

i know we cant put underwater decor in every single spot with water, im talking about incentivizing the diving mechanic lol

[timid bough]

why should we make players dive into empty spaces?

[west hinge]

for wax?

im not sure i understand what's wrong with my point

[timid bough]

why for wax? you don't get rewarded for flying neither the game forces you to

[manic panther]

valley race

[timid bough]

in that area only, just like diving in the new area lets you collect wax clams

[west hinge]

we should be able to earn wax via flying lmao and the only reason they dont add ways is

1. they dont need to -_-
2. they never came up with a way to incentivize it and by launch it was too late

[cosmic orchid]

could you indicate what underwater places have candles?
iirc the only place that comes to mind is the Valley Icerink, in which case was a conflicting topic,
the water effect of the area was removed so it wouldn't contradict the new water and diving mechanic
so, in a way, they removed the water frm areas with underwater

there's also new shells in the area that guve air and wax
we have numerous sources of wax now so it doesn't have to be strictly from candles, which would be weird to be found underwater

[manic panther]

also flying has no inherent danger (loss of light) as compared to diving(drowning)/wasteland plants(krill)

[hybrid venture]

There are even 2 big clams that are essentially candle cakes

[manic panther]

i think its less about 'rewarding the player' and more about "more interactability/things to do"

[timid bough]

well there is nothing to do anywhere else

[west hinge]

flying feels satisfying cos we do it everywhere for many purposes being travel platforming ect

swimming is grounded and it will never actually be used outside of abyss so it is therefore a *gimmick, and less of a utilized game mechanic

[manic panther]

but there COULD be, is i think what they were trying to say

[cosmic orchid]

I wonder how much bloat will happen if they expand the Sanctuary with full underwater area
I mean, mid-range devices already lag and struggle in Sanctuary

[manic panther]

i dont struggle in sanc on switch................ assembly treehouse however...........

[west hinge]

im saying they should add candles to underwater places, so that we'll use the new diving mechanic more

[timid bough]

thing is... they don't want candles underwater... we have clams and blue wax instead

[cosmic orchid]

maybe more clams? because candles underwater doesn't make sense

[west hinge]

yeah i dont think it should be full area that's impossible for sky lol, thats why i say just a single coral reef added permanently to the game when days of earth or nature happens

[west hinge]

yes so lets do clams then my point should still come across either way lol

blue wax could look so pretty

[cosmic orchid]

#beta-feedback time

[raw wasp]

Haha

Ha. They already have that

[timid bough]

when they decide to add more underwater areas in other levels it will most likely come with wax clams and blue wax, just don't expect it to be everywhere

[west hinge]

yes i was agreeing with them

[zenith mist]

tbh i dont get why theres a sudden focus on things not making sense. theres flying mantas and we play as flying children made of light
honestly i think the removal of the water in the ice rink was a bit of a downgrade, i dont think having candles underwater should be that big a deal

[raw wasp]

Me eating the colored lights that the enchantment spirits were trying to save the wasteland with while they watch in horror

[cosmic orchid]

atm they're focused on Abyss
so whatever extra things about diving in other areas with deep water won't be a priority, maybe in the future, but we'll never know

[west hinge]

i dont see why they couldnt have made the ice rink a new diving area smh

[manic panther]

still wondering what they're gonna do about cyan light maybe they could move it to dreams hotspring?

[raw wasp]

I think its cus it was part of the main story

You can’t just dive as soon as you get the game

[timid bough]

moth confusion its too upfront to be a diving area

[west hinge]

and why not?

[raw wasp]

Because you have to unlock it in Treasure Reef first 🌞

[cosmic orchid]

rip new people locked out in a specific on a mechanic that they have no idea about

[timid bough]

you need to get a manta sacrificed to you in treasure reef to unlock diving

[raw wasp]

TEAR EMOJI REACT 😭😭😭

[zenith mist]

i think the best thing to do w the ice rink was to just leave it alone. being able to skate quickly in there is fun anyways, having to dive would just make it tedious

[west hinge]

why?

moths should be able to swim, and if they arent good at it then they should be able to swim at prairie and forest first, thay way they wont be completely shellshocked when they see the ice rink, that's my point

[timid bough]

its a quick way to get moths detracked to nowhere

[manic panther]

you can't access the area to unlock diving before beating eden, which forces you to go through valley, where you will get confused because you cant go there
especially when you migthve been able to before

[cosmic orchid]

maybe they'll keep the Blue light in there because it used to be a large body of water but idk what're the devs plans

[raw wasp]

Wdym…?

I don’t understand

[clear cargo]

Isn't cyan light in isle