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Thank you!
Yeah that is what i mean
It look like Evil Laugh lol
i saw someone with 12 wings just now on beta is that possible? 
I dont think its possible because our max wing counts rn are 170-180ish???
So its a hacker :o
Pls do report them! 
I will ! 
Is there a limited to the gifts you can send or receive? Because after gifting two people, I couldn’t gift friends anymore (the new gifting system by unlocking fist bump with friend)
You can only get gifted once so maybe your friend already got gifted by someone
Hey guys! 😊😊
Can someone please explain what's that CPU problem android 9 devices have?
I still can't open the game after the new update again and I'd like to understand why this keeps on happening while others on android 10+ devices can still play
As often corrected, this is a false assumption.
Many android 9 phones are still playing beta and greater androids and even iOS devices are affected.
@spark lance this would explain it maybe for you 
I only suspected it is your Phone Manufacture that have the problems... Since there are actually others Android 9 and Android 10 players that didn't get any problems
Please check that link, it's beta-screenshot chat, because i can't post it here, and tell your opinion.
Honestly, i just need "Auto All Light Up in Friend Constellation" instead of update of the look of our Constellation
That makes sense, thanks for the explanation!
Devs made it clear that it’s not gonna happen (unless design goal changes), you can read more here:
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I was wishing for light all button too but after reading those messages i started viewing lighting friend's stars in a completely different way
p.s. I still do a horrible job at lighting people i admit but at least i dont claim it if im not going to light back
The sending light process as it is now, for me is a bit mechanical, whether it’s beta or live. Like I just wanna get it over with as fast as I could. The design itself plus the huge number of friends don’t really help me to enter a pensive state of mind to take the time to think about the friends I light. Maybe the early beta friend shrines would better serve this particular purpose? I dunno. If I really miss a friend, I’d just check their skykid in constellation even if they not online and think about them, or send them a heart when thinking about them.
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Don't u have a feeling that with the new constellation we can save less friends than we have in live??
The new constellation design makes sending gift of light a challenge. It's hard to see who sent a gift of light to collect it and hard to see and takes many steps to check who hasn't been gifted with light. More noticeable design and default zoom in with page function would be great.
Right now in global you can have 72 friends visible, correct?
You can have more friends than that but only max 72 show each time
And the constelación 8n Beta goes un to 140, right?
As per now yes. But it's subject to change, as everything is in beta
You can read about updates in #beta-announcements 
it's 8 person in 10 constellations so its 80, plus however much can fit in the solar system(i assume 60? since 140 in total and 80 from constellations)
......it has come to my attention that clone number 1 has betrayed us 
@cobalt jacinth @jolly bear from what I learned only android 9 devices that were manufactured in the US can still run the game. Mine was bought from the UK so could you please explain what's the difference?
You may have found similarities but might be just a coincidence. I think it has nothing to do with manufacturing location. Occasionally phones do have regional differences tho. What rather counts for Androids what kind of graphics renderer updates or issues did they get or they didn't get, and how do they react to the necessary Sky graphics engine updates and tweaks devs trying to make it compatible for most devices while keeping the game up-to-date 
@cobalt jacinth oooh! So if the graphics keep getting higher quality or something there is a possibility that at some point the game won't be compatible with android 9 devices.
That's a more complex question than android version 
Currently there are close to half million device variations in the world and it constantly keeps growing. This makes game development a challenge. There are phones with very similar or same hardware from different manufacturers and Sky doesn't crash on one phone while it crashes on the other because many phone brands over tweak their androids to their liking and deliver sloppy renderer updates. This is called Android fragmentation.
Games heavily depend on hardware too. Older droids more likely to crash or become incompatible not only because of outdated software but also outdated hardware.
Oh! Interesting.
Poor broke skykids gotta get new phones 
@cobalt jacinth thank you so much for your explanation. I appreciate it 🤗
You're welcome! Your questions were kind I felt you were not complaining and finally someone who purely wanted to understand the nature of the issue 
If tgc could somehow add a way to make lighting friends as easy as collecting light (name tap), it would solve a lot of my grievances with this new system.
Only for some Samsung devices, this would be true. This is due to Qualcomm owning the CDMA patent in the US and Samsung not being able to support CDMA bands without paying insane royalty fees if adding them into their Exynos chips. (It was more cost effective buying chips from Qualcomm instead of paying royalty fees and making the chips themselves) That patent expired recently, so newer Exynos chips can support it, though. (Like the S20, S21 and some A series phones) older Samsung phones (Like the S10 and below) had to be a Qualcomm Snapdragon SoC to support Sprint and Verizon services. Other manufacturers didn't have this issue since Mediatek did pay the royalty fees.
Maybe they should change it back to how it was in the beginning when you had to tap once to both collect and send light 👀
This sounds amazing
so that means the android phones that crash is because they are not compatible anymore? 
No it isn't necessarily. Read the full conversation above.
Sky always crashes on me no matter what Tgc tries to update or not 
Yesterday I had to login 3 times because I crashed twice on the login loading screen
Tgc wheres our trail spells compensation
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I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
A lot of technical words and abréviations I'm not familiar with but I guess I understand what you mean to some extent 😅
Thank you for taking the time to read and answer my question 💞
So now you don’t get the 🔴 for a new heart or light waiting in your constellation? You just have to check it every time your in home to see if you have anything :/
I’m liking the idea of the new system and just hoping that some of the ease to use stuff from the old constellation makes its way to he new. Like being able to light people with just a few taps and better visibility to hearts , light , unlit peeps
To add to this, I think the animation of having skykid avatars coming up and down, up and down from the constellation is pretty time consuming and tedious to watch, also might cause migraine/nausea to some motion-sensitive people. If the goal is to show that we care about this friend, then this up-and-down animation is kinda counterproductive and not very soothing to watch repeatedly. I really like the idea of being able to visualize my friend’s avatar from constellation in general tho, it’s a nice touch.
It would be less time consuming if we could light stars with just a tap mode 
indeed, the veiw option to see ur friends skykid could be only for the other stuff e.g. teleporting.
ngl i hate the sound of the animation the transition made too 
Players: current constellation can trigger headaches to people who are sensitive to sudden movements.
TGC: Make movements more jarring to give every player a headache.
I thought I'm the only one annoyed by the friends up-down sound. Is so unnecessary and loud. Gave feedback on it
I’m not a big fan of that sound either 
ah the classic WOOOAAHW
legendary skykid descending sound
How we supposed to test something that makes us feel physically worse the the previous version?🤔 All that movement is awful and to me unnecessary.
just gonna share moe's idea again cause it's sounds great
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Well, that is the testing, then it goes to feedback as usual
I do like the fact that I can arrange my friends in constellation to a certain extent, and having a big constellation like the solar system to aggregate loads of friends so I don’t have to navigate from page to page. It’s only in the early stage of testing, and hopefully we’d get more improvements to this 
yee, a drag and drop function would be much better
Yes, I've certainly left feedback. And I'm not planning on taking a break. Haven't once during a testing period in the over a year I've been a tester..I'm just voicing my frustration and it being so inducing to nausea and headaches. I know there will be more than likely several iterations, it's just a bit rough this early on. One of the complaints about the other system was the problems I mentioned earlier. They weren't taken into consideration though this type of movement can be hell for some players.
Eager to see what it'll look like in a month or two
Me too☺
I did leave feedback as soon as I could. I'm just a bit miffed that one of the biggest complaints not only made it into the new testing version but is actually worse.
Indeed🙏🏼
what happened now?
I’m honestly so frustrated with the fact that we still aren’t getting a light all function when the constellations are going to be bumped up from 72 (I think?)to 140 friends at a time, and it’s getting more complex. I love the new look, but lighting everyone’s becoming a nightmare
I don’t even think about who I’m lighting, I just try to get it over with as fast as possible. I know it’s never gonna happen, but it’s getting more and more frustrating lighting people 
What I've noticed with the new constellation, motion is too jarring (I'm not even that photosensitive to motion, but this hurts my head a bit). Motion aside, I did find it easier to navigate by touch than the current version in live... Playing with controller on the other hand, I noticed the opposite - the live version is easier to navigate than the current beta iteration (lots of accidental menu switches, difficulty selecting the right skid in constellation, etc).
I'll see about getting some comparison videos tomorrow when my constellations hopefully have more light to collect
Good morning, everyone. Good afternoon. Good evening.
There have been some good compromises suggested, either a long press or a togglable 'light friend' mode that lets you tap
about “gift all button”
“message from ktjn about light all button”
#questions-and-help message credit to tea /copied from xiao 
At this rate Skybot gonna get triggered by the words "Light All"
Skybot gonna
us all
Thank you for the input SkyBot 
honestly I think all we needed for a constellation update was a light all button and a search function.. this new one is so confusing 
Oh my the more i lit my friends, the more im getting dizzy 
I believe the search function should be possible one day
But a light all option will never see light, according to Ktjn
/ping off
Here's more info to why the light all won't be a thing if anyone wants to see the reasons why
I don’t mind not having a light all button if there can be less camera movements/jarring/animation while lighting a friend’s star
search function would be something possible
but light all will never exist 
the only reason I get frustrated from lightning all friends one by one is that I can't find my (favorite) friends, they don't display if i didn't collect, I would sometimes just collect light to get it over with but that just makes me feel guilty 
now with the groups which I'm very grateful for I will just light whoever I want to light and skip the rest for another time, as it should be.
u don't have to light all 150 and more daily cuz that's insane and gives too much power if there was such function as light all.
Beta chat, is in game chat translation still in the works? Did it get canned?
Grandma rude, she wouldn’t face me after opening the game twice. Instead she just faced the wall 
Its still in beta, but no eta on if/when it goes live. It's been almost 2 years now 
Grandma likes wall more than you, it is what it is. 🕵️
The thing with the old constellation in live is that every time you log in you can see different friends resurface. Idk if the new one is doing the same. If it’s not, then you gotta constantly block ppl to see hidden friends
I would've expected grandma's favorite child to be a child but whaddya you know
Tested this earlier, it works the same.
Cool! One worry down
I need a different kind of help from someone in beta dm for specifics it’s art reference related
Idk where else to ask lol
sorry, grandma timing got changed? i dun see her now
Changed to xx:30, after geyser
just enough timing to finish geyser and run over to sunny forest lol
thank you for the change > dev.. loved it
i'm surprised the friend loading in doesnt just keep the camera focused on where they'd land
it IS using the same animation as spirits though so i see why it does that
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Sounds like the beginning of a brand new advertising campaign 
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is there anyone still having a crash issue while opening the beta app?
Yep
I just got back to beta and where is the new area that is shown in the screenshots? (not office)
I wanna go and check it out
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
there shouldn't be a new area other than Homespace and Office
I've been thinking about this a lot since I played Sky, I'm very active in running eden and so far I've gathered so much ascended candles already (700+). The number of spells you can buy with it is very limited and not necessary at all. I hope we can consider the AC being use to purchase cosmetics and accessories instead of the very pricy heart that most players are not able to get due to limited sources (you can't expect all your friends to gift you always or like your boat/note). Being able to purchase other stuff with AC besides shop spells means we have to actively run eden weekly. I've notice that not many ppl are doing eden anymore after reaching 11 wedge or after achieving their desired height.
If that's not possible, then consider changing the quest to reward us with heart instead of candles 🙃 or add something new that would reward us heart to show your appreciation at least to your loyal Sky Kids, since that's the reason of why we're getting heart gift from friends, ain't it?
not beta topic also please refrain from cold pinging people, specially the devs
You have to understand that this "meaningful experience" takes 3 hours daily.I have a constellation of 750+ friends.It might be okay for some people who don’t have much friends and don’t have to spend hours on the constellation blocking/unblocking people but for people like us who’ve been playing for long and are quite socially active we do need the "light all" button.Since making friends is a central aspect of Sky,some of my friends have completely stopped adding people coz they don’t want to spend more time sending lights to everyone.I think they should at least give this option to players who have more than 300 friends to make our life easier.
If we all give feedback and voice our opinion why wouldn't TGC listen.They’ll obviously understand why the community wants this button.
...... How many hearts do you get from the constellations?
A lot.It’s also another way to be visible in my friend’s constellation and to be able to find them in mine when they light me back.Or else it’s impossible to find people.
This is the reason why I never take an uber coz if the server splits,I won’t be able to find them in my constellation and I won’t be able to tp back.
Beside the explanation given by the devs about the light all button I'm gonna share another reason why I believe light all button is not and will not come
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You are "rewarded" for your 3+ hours of input by, as you said, a lot of hearts. Hearts are a valuable currency
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If light all button appears it will destroy the in game heart economy. As I said hearts are a currency often used in game,
If Light all button appears then what's stopping people from befriending litteraly everyone and getting for example 15+ hearts per day?
You're welcome to leave feedback in #live-feedback (since this isn't a beta topic) or make requests or suggestions in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
Please try not to ping devs unless it's an emergency. Especially since it's the weekend and I'm not active in chat. You're replying to an irrelevant message from 18 months ago. Thank you!

Ktjn go to sneep

We need ur brain fresh for the future content
Yeah isn't it like... Midnight at best over there
Go back to sneep snorp 
i always forget that the reply autopings unless you disable it so couldve been that
I get pings so rarely, I do treat them like emergencies. If I'm awake I absolutely will look into it.
Remind me again please how many hearts do you get from it
We got various ways of getting wax AFK too, like the geyser and with grandma (in beta for now), all you need to do is tap the screen every now and then
you can get several depending on the number of friends you have.
I don't want to sound rude or dismissive but I don't think any human is capable of having 750 close friends
My question was rhetorical
Please don’t divert the topic by bringing up how many hearts I get out of it.We’re discussing how much time we have to spend on this.
if light all exist, i would camp friend links to servers so people add them and we'll light each other, business go stonk 
Lighting all your friends is not a mandatory requirement
You do it by your choice
do you think people are lying here? why would we joke about something that is insanely tiring? the logic behind the light all button is good, but it is not feasible
Not lying perse but the possibility of things being exaggerated is there
so? maybe i want to send all my friends light gifts lol, but having to spend 3 hours behind it is painful, you have to admit that. i want to spend time with friends on sky and not spend so much time lighting people.
@rocky torrent please, if you haven't already, read again the second point I brought up.
A light all button singlehandedly is able to destroy the whole sky economy
My friend has 900+,she’s been playing since Sanctuary.You can’t judge how socially active someone is if just because you think "it’s not possible".
i have 200 plus friends in sky— while we aren’t close, i can barely see all of them, much less have the time or patience to light them all some days.
How? I uber people every day.I’m adding 5-7 people on a daily basis.Do you still think it’s impossible?
It is about being friends with someone or is it the hearts that you get?
What is your motivation to light 900+ people per day?
You wanted to hide this topic from the discussion but it is an important point here.
What is your motivation?
'sky economy'?
do you realise how painful it is to unblock and block repeatedly for a cycle of 1+ hours every day?
because to me, yes it's a meaningful gift and every single one of my friends deserve it.
i don't think it's worth it for players if we have to suffer this way, it kind of takes away the point of it being meaningful.
i'd rather ruin the economy than my sanity and relationships
Read this @sick pendant
Not saying it's impossible, what I am saying is that there's a chance the numbers are exaggerated. I'm taking the info you're giving with a grain of salt since i cannot confirm nor deny what you're saying is 100% the truth
Yo, we have an economy?
Read this @iron geyser
While I don't believe a light all button is ever going to happen, something does need to be done about the lighting functionality. It is taxing on the eyes (and thus the brain) to have the up-down motion and flashing screen of bringin down a friend. This is something most players do on a daily basis, and any such chore should be made kinder to the senses in some way.
I keep a note of the number of people I’m adding every day.That’s why it’s not "exaggerated"
i cant give any beta oriented input sadly but my best idea is a button that toggles you between 'light mode' and 'menu mode'
menu mode lets you look at, join, rename, block etc, and light mode lets you just tap tap tap tap tap each person
i think you're missing our point here.
just because you play with a certain group daily doesnt mean only they deserve daily light. ALL my friends do.
the motivation is helping them earn hearts in a system that is making it insanely difficult to earn hearts already AND showing my gratitude for them in my life.
I don't think light all function shows gratitude to the friends you will never ever see in your constellation
light all button is nice, but having it meaning it would lead most people adding friends just to light each other, sooner or later after light all existed we will see friends as currency, that no doubt will happen, but lighting friends i agree need to be easier, at least a one tap lighting friend, again, lighting people isn't a task you need to do, it supposed to be a **gift **after all
Just because you people don’t have that many number of friends,you don’t have the right to judge how many I can have.
Noones judging you for how many people you have.
Noones judging you at all in fact
Ignis,I clearly remember you saying that you’re too lazy to send lights to everyone.How would you even know then?
tbh the game technically has a limit on friends
Yet it would be easier for some of us who have a handful of friends. Sorry we don’t have all the time in the world to light everyone up 🤷
Do you have to block/unblock people on daily basis like us?
I’m just saying it’s easier for people who have less friends.But not for people who have a lot.
I don’t think so.
I know that when I don't have the time to send light to my friends I don't claim their light.
I'm sure missing 1/50 of a heart one day won't cause them any pain.
Besides friendships are not based around lighting each other
you can't expect us to pick and choose between friends?????? that is actually what takes away the 'meaningful' part of the gifts
Bonfire that gives heart fragments when
Besides friendships are not based around lighting each other
Then why cant we have a light all?
the maximum amount of friends displayed is technically that
Doesn't that take more time? like I said, I don't have your notes of how many people you add daily on my hands so... I'm also not saying "well I don't have that amount of friends so that means it's impossible", I'm aware I'm not a social butterfly myself 
Have you read my messages??
Let me simplify it for you
Light all
Add as many friends as you want
Get MANY hearts per day
Hearts loose their value
Question for everyone here, if you got no reward out of lightning your friends stars, would you still do it?
Yes
I wouldn't because it takes like 15 minutes
Yes, I believe I would. As someone else said earlier, it's a way to show you remember them even if you don't play much together anymore.
I honestly see it as a "hey, I'm still here!" specially when server split happens
i already see it as a "yes im alive" button
Okie.
Then add the light all button but it gives no heart fragments.
Deal?
Let me simplify it for YOU since youre not reading what we're saying
light all
saves our times and our sanities
i can spend MORE meaningful time PLAYING with my friends
if there was no reward I think it would be used as more of a signaling system
my two best thoughts would be
-option to toggle between 'tap to light' and 'tap to open friend menu' (allows lighting multiple people quickly but without being too OP/ruining the point of gifting)
-remove the up/down movement on friends loading in (can be very jarring and several people have mentioned it making them dizzy/giving them headaches)
It would be nice since we also don’t have a ‘remove option’ since block button really does nothing yet we can figure out who still plays 🤝
To be clear.
I am not against an easier system of lighting people that takes less time.
But light all button is not going to happen
the amount of motion has to be reduced for sure, especially when lighting solar system constellation friends
i have never depended on : shrines, boats, fragments for hearts anyway
Yes, a 'tap to light' mode has been one of the best compromises I've seen suggested
Why? If we all get together as a community why won’t it?
Who honestly asked it’s our opinion/thought abt it
tgc has explained why it's against their core values
Hi all - sorry to interrupt the convo
Since I can't seem to log on to beta recently when any friends are on, does anyone know how "friend is online" notifications work with the new constellations? Is every friend you put into a constellation (i.e. taken out of the concentric circles) considered a "favourite" now?
Because you might give it a spiritual meaning of friendship. Others wont
They will abuse the system, get a lot of friends and inflate the heart economy.
If everyone gets 50 hearts per day then 999 heart cosmetic is not an expensive one any more
Maybe they should add other ways to get hearts to decrease the importance of hearts 👀
I know it was initially ment to be a gift from friends but since we require it to buy stuff (even more now with all o these events) it's very easy to view it as a currency instead of a gift.
Getting a little heated in here... Please remember to keep discussion constructive and respectful toward one another.
What’s wrong with a light all button? They introduced chevrons to allow people less time in Sky to maximise candle running time. I mean… you say yes to one thing we didn’t want changed and no to something we want changed.
we can rally everyone asking for all cosmetics to be free but that wouldn't ever happen 
for me if light all was introduced it would make me feel like im not close to those people.
like it would go from "ooh friend sent me a light!" to "oh they probably just hit the light all button... im not really special :("
This is a discussion
You don't need anyone to "ask" to express your opinion.
Be careful using that type of wording next time
I'm not sure what you mean by reward though? It's not like I get something for lighting my friend, it's more like a "hey, I still remember you, have a little something from me" kind of thing. Even for games that have a "gift all" button, it's usually only my most dedicated friends that bother to remember. I doubt making things easier would destroy the sky economy (does that exist?)
I mean, with Light all ppl will just collect as many friends as possible to get easy hearts daily. Friendship has no meaning anymore, I guess.
Off topic. Bea I love your pfp 
A friend is online message is a bug
Notifications should still work the same way
if you lot think your friendship is reduced to one button that gets more and more painful with the people you add........
notifications still work, you only get them on your favorite friends (the star button still exists in the in person friendship tree but you can't edit favorites from the friendship menu as of now)
Basically that it makes the "hey, I appreciate you being my friend, have some shards to make up a heart!" meaningless
i like to look at the idea of a 'light all' button like a krill trick.
it defeats the purpose of the krill being a game mechanic centered around being stealthy and learning the patterns, and the purpose of wasteland to be a sort of scary stealth-mission level.
For someone who has close to 500 ppl in consta it’s ridiculous to constantly change realms or go offline online or block/unblock friends so I can light people I’ve missed. It legit takes 2hours of my life. It’s so tedious that I light whoever pops up in my consta. ‘Light all’ would literally be a life saver and everyone gets lighted up.
I just saw Ktjn's question, it's a good one. 
I think if it wasnt so tiring as it is now with the camera movements while your friend appears i would so i let ppl know that yes im still playing, im still reachable to play with and i didn't forgot them. However I think i would only light my closest few if nothing changed in the animation part only that it wouldn't give any reward.
im personally amazed you guys have more than 20-30 friends that actaully light you back
jealousy
I do agree that the new friend constellation needs some work, specifically to make it easier to the eyes with all the back and forth, however.
A light all would just be a "I will friend you so I can get free hearts" and there goes the value (and also sentimental value) of the hearts-
Instead they’re introducing a motion sickness inducing consta that would put me off from looking at consta all together. Yes. There are people who get motion sickness from sky.
maybe like a pseudo-light all option?
that does one of those little mini constellations instead of the whole list. so you still have to actaully gift people but youc an do more than one at once
We have been playing for long and we do have many friends.A lot of us are quite socially active and some of us are not.But for people who have so many friends it’s very time consuming.
Ayo whats beta like 
You can choose to light all or light one by one. I think given a choice is better than forcing a specific style of playing.
Totally agree
also, why does a friendship have to be defined by the light you send them?
does it not fit the style of sky more if i can actually PLAY with my friends??? and not waste 3 whole hours on a constellation??
with the constellation updates, do we have more space for more friends? my sky was getting really full. what is the max amount of friends you can have with the beta update?
For those of you sentimental people, light one by one. For those of us who wants to light everyone without the hassle then light all. An option is better than a lame excuse of ‘this takes away the essence of the game’. Because I have a hell lot to say about the essence of the game.
Only if they would still get a reward. If its just to make the light shine and nothing more I'd only use it as an 'I was here, hi friendo' to people I'm really close with. 
to be fair if the heart fragments from lighting were removed i think it might bring people closer? since gifting aheart would be not only the next best thing but the new thing
i'd be more likely tosend hearts
In my opinion, in the same way that we take the lights from our friends, we should send them without having to see an animation, let's remember that many people have 140 friends or more and it will be annoying, and instead of encouraging them to give away what causes it is that don't feel like doing it
People who support the light all button
What is your opinion about this
If light all button becomes a thing people will friend litteraly everyone and get a huge amount of hearts daily. Wouldn't this affect the prices?
How bout this:
Light All is in but no shards can be collected 
Cause lowkey with Ktjn asking if we would still light up our friends despite being no reward.. Got me thinking a bit
im gonna be honest here..... you're responsible for what you tamed
im not gonna downplay those who have over 500+ friends but its just what comes when you have such huge amounts of friends, unless you choose not to light them
i personally can't fathom being close to so many friends considering a single server is only 8 people max
Because it’s a community game no?
Given the thing that I know for a FACT there are people selling hearts for real money and there are people who are buying them this would 100% be an issue
i honestly dont see how the priority is a fake economy over getting to spend the same time with friends.
Now I wonder if instead of having the constellation light we could get a candle buff while next to a friend instead. It might encourage people to go out and explore with friends, or friend people they're hanging out with in social light spaces.
i don’t light people because they’re my friends, i light them because i want to support them in sky and help them get hearts! i want to be able to give everyone hearts and a “light all” button would be great
i mean, isn't the point if sky to be social?
We meet moths to help. We meet friends in this server who needs help. We just make friends from listening to music in home space. Aye. 500 is easy number when you play daily and socialise daily.
I think we don’t need light all button we need a way easier for give lights and more quick. Because is a gift and irl we don’t gift one time for everybody but we can put gifts quick for everybody
I feel like a light all button would seriously impact the Sky heart economy in a negative way and possibly by extension negatively impact the value of making friends too. 
This. Honestly, I myself will use it to make sure I'm getting heart daily with 1 single button. Who wouldnt? especially with how expensive some items are.
im really not understanding how we are valuing an economy over the literal point of sky : friendships and socialising together
Breaking news: white and black cape are now 750 hearts and Level 2 is now 1250
And now ts emotes cost 30
You are once again ignoring the questions by changing the point.
Please answer the question
they could just make the amount of heart light you get from people lower?
but yes regarding this: i think it wouldnt be that bad? sending hearts is a much more meaningful thing than a <1/50th of a fragment.
it'd also make sending hearts more common and it feels better to get a whole heart than just a smidgen of one.
also option to remove a friend without blocking them? i have like 20 moths that i guess just uninstalled the game after beating it and i feel SO bad blocking them to get them off the list
or at least for an un-blocked friend to be unfriended.
i wonder how people will feel with
light all: to notify them you still here
light people manually: to notify + heart fragment 
If you think that lighting ppl take away the time for spending time with friends, then... just dont light them up? just light some closest one? I dont get it.
Hearts is one of the hardest thing to collect aside from AC. I can’t see a huge influx of price due to a light all button. Especially for those who barely wanna have friends. I’m looking at you 8p-per-server 
Aye aye preach my friend
iitc it's already like 1/50th or something, so people with only a few friends would be more negatively impacted (i am BROKE, i only have one person who traded hearts with me and i think they stopped cause they got what they needed. (thankfully i did too)
it takes me like a week to get one heart, i cant imagine getting less
maybe i want to show all my friends i appreciate them. then what lol. i dont have 2 close friends, i have many. it's simply not fair to players who have many friends.
No-no, that's not how I mean. I feel it would also have negative impact on the meaning of friendship offers. Right now its by no means guaranteed that by friending someone it will net you anything other than friendship and being able to better help them. If light all was a thing I worry it may become commonplace to friend players just for their heart fragments with no intent of ever seeing them again or helping them.
@rocky torrent answer this question please
Because if we ignore economy, the same friends you appreciate and love have a high chance on seeing you as a heart currency. Meaning they dont see you as a friend anymore
agreed @ harboween
i would feel worse just being seena s income to people than a friend
it’s kind of already like that for me though, i have made friends genuinely but i never hang out with them since we don’t unlock chat and i don’t have a deep connection with them. i’d rather be with my close friends than a stranger i befriended
I highly doubt a light all button changes things. There are tons of short term players simply because the UI in general needs major improving.
Ofc can affect the prices. Because I play other game in that something similar happen and this make that has a limit of gifts per day. Like if In Sky we can only take 10 gifts lights from our friends
yes i understand what you mean and i get that. but there's already TOS breaking activities taking place in fan servers. there's no way to stop it.not considering light all is honestly disappointing especially for social people.
A lot of people just add each other for heart trades only (other servers).So saying that light all button would suddenly affect the Sky economy is wrong.
Aye aye preach
then proportionally increase the prices if youre so worried about people exploiting a system that is ALREADY over exploited???
Imma remind a point I brought up earlier
Will it show your friends appreciation that you light them by the click of 1 button and don't even see their star of weeks or even months and eventually forget their name?
getting hearts is already hard enough, i would appreciate a light all feature but i wouldn’t actively seek out more friends
Then you show that appreciation by taking the time to search for them and send light.
With a Light all it's like a "eh" plus imagine being a moth, getting tons of friends and then realize they aren't interested in playing or spending time with you but rather than you're just one more heart fragment for the count
Well... you put heart as part of currency which is obtainable only through friends gift, light, likes and seasonal NPC, ofcourse they would literally gather as many ppl as they can just to save up enough of it, if there's another way of getting it I'd not trouble myself of lighting up all I have in my astrology that much.. especially those that I just only ubered to |pnr|, plus there's no option to unfriend people and I feel bad about blocking them..
Are you contradicting yourself when you said Sky is about friendship?
Could you please specify in what ways is the system already exploited?
iirc heart trading isnt against TOS, it's actually encouraged
we just aren't supposed to arrange them here with people we don't know because there are those who will scam
Why do you think a light all button changes friendships? That’s seriously weird lol
will it show friends appreciation if you only have the time to log on for 3 hours of which you spend 100% on consta instead of them???
The problem at first was with the constellation not showing names of friends to light but after seeing tgc's solution to this suddenly other options seem better 
Even if we had a light all button, I would still individually light - I use it as a signal to call a friend online because I know they'll see the notification. Or I use it after a server split to say "I'm home and trying to tp but the server is full rn". It lets me think of that friend each time I light them, and it's nice to have a (even if maybe forced) moment of mindfulness. I would still light people if I didn't get heart fragments because I know they will get a heart fragment and it feels nice to give. I don't really need hearts anymore because of double hearts events and meditation quest hearts. I'm not close with all my Sky friends, but I still light them all and remember when we played more often.
I hear the people who have hundreds of friends, and maybe the solution for that is displaying more constellations in game? I know there are technical limitations sadly... People with huge friend numbers, what makes you spend 3 hours a day lighting them? I wish I had that amount of time!
dude!!!!! literally every TOS breaking activity like heart trading and all. and you say that as if people DONT already add people for fragments.
Star,try handling our constellation for a day.You think it’s so easy to find friends with a constellation like this.You can’t find a person without having to block 100 more.
I will answer to your questions after you answer to the one you replied with the question
oh that was a bug! it's been fixed i think (although now you get phantom ghost lights. i assume they're working on that)
Well ok. Forget light all. How about search friend option? I mean not being able to search a friend is so 2000-late. It’s 2021.
i personally don’t feel “appreciated” when i receive light. for me it’s a common courtesy to do if you go online on sky, like candle running or daily quests. it’s just a nice way to help out your friends to get hearts without having to actually gift them a heart. if you’re worried about your friends not feeling appreciated, then send them a whole heart!
i have answered your question. if you dont want to accept that that's your issue. not mine.
Only with a signal that I will warp to u. Or remember me idk
I need search and delete option too.
Aye aye!
You didn't answer any of my questions
You replied with other questions and simply brought up your statements unrelated to the questions.
Anyhoo thanks. I digress
this ^^^^
i really wish we could delete friends instead of being forced to block them.
Wrong ping? 👀
The light all button seems on the fence. A delete friend and search friend option would be a whole lot better. At least something.
i answered what you asked. like i said, your issue.
i digress as well
This too 
YESSS i want delete friend option mainly for the 20something moths that im 99% sure uninstalled the game because i never saw them again
i have blocker's guilt
Yes. Preach!
Just an addition
Heart trading still costs candles
Keeping friends only for lighting each other still costs time
deleting could work like after 10 days of blocking you can delete them
i actually am very hesitant to make more friends because im afraid of clogging up my constellation with people ill never see or hear from again
it's sad
How about adding one candle for each friend that gives heart fragments and one wax 
Yeah I have like 30 inactive people in my astrology.. i know they are inactive because they haven't collected my light as of now
Same I have 200 people in my block list.The 750 people I said includes the block list people.Moths and players who have quit the game and have never been online even once.
imagine just an empty room in home space with 600 candles in it 
i always feel bad denying moths but :[ they might not play ever again after i friend them!
it used to be like that in the old beta— it’d be cool, but too much lag on the servers
Its your time and friendships to maintain.
I also have a full constellation and I light all the people I can from time to time, specifically to those close to me and that have taken their time to hangout with me. like a friend. I'm not afraid to just do a cleanup and get the moths and vets that aren't active off my constellation.
Here were some of the things I already gave in feedback that would be a good compromise:
-Togglable light mode where you can tap friend nodes to light them, can still keep the individual lighting if wanted
-Search bar
-Refresh system for the solar system that prioritises unlit friends
-Condensing the favourite constellations from 10 to 5, holding 16 each, or to 4 holding 20 each
i've found most people understand ❌
and wont bother me again if i reject them, i still feel bad tho
Yeah, I do to. If I'm making a friend to help them then I'm having that interaction and offering/accepting that candle because I'm planning on having an extended positive interaction with them. It doesn't mean I'll realistically plan to meet them commonly after the time and I have way to many friends for that, but we had a fun time together and if they need help they're always welcome to warp back.
I guess the difference I'm feeling would be one was a friendship made for a reason of interaction and sharing a moment whereas another might be for a reason of currency and no interaction beyond. Reminds me of the star collector from The Little Prince in a way. I want the friendship to have more meaning than a currency.
to be fair its understandable these moths quit cause after going past eden is technically finishing the game
Do you see the doubt in adding people and ‘friends’. It’s pathetic how we have to resort to limiting friends because the consta just isn’t friendly.
I remember the time I was new, I always sit on a bench and honk until I get someone to ask some help xD..
I'm sure the devs (if they read this) noticed the pattern I did in this conversation.
I believe I've expressed what I needed to say.
Do you disagree or you don't even want to understand that's your decision.
Have a plesent rest of the day y'all.
Bbye
Bye Ignis.
Does solar system has a limit or it keeps on growing?
Oo
something that i would like is if we could hold hands with people even if we aren’t friends
I mean, is lighting friends mandatory for the game? Why complain for something you willingly do?
you can add unlimited friends, but they don’t all show up.
Oh okie
I have aleady cleaned up my constellation and have put 200 people already there.
I think you’re forgetting that when you have big constellation you have to block people in order to send lights to other.
and or priorities to show who's online..
**i still stand by my demand for an oreo "maybe" emote to go with
and
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And not being able to add more
I can see where your point is coming from, but personally TOS breaking activities taking place elsewhere as a reason will never stand for me. Its simply wrong and just because its out of notice doesn't make it right. I'm all ears for listening to some of your other points I've seen, but this one wont go very far for me. 
such a point takes away from the discussion entirely.
the constellation is exploited whether or not you want to admit it.
some of us actually use to to show appreciation. telling us to not light is completely off.
half these activities came into existence BECAUSE the constellation is not friendly. isn't that unfair?
when you cant react with nod emote so you jsut go to yes emote
im pretty sure many wouldn't be dependant on such stuff if only we were given a little leeway with constellation.
Aint it the same thing? 💀
Last thing before I log out
The day assembly backpack is deleted is the day y'all get the light all button.
ok bbye
Shared space who ?
Never heard of them 
exactly, if the constellation was more user friendly, heart trades and such exploitation’s wouldn’t be used.
Bye ignis
Byee
Tgc i think this is a sign to bring back old home space with 3000 statues 
I’m not saying dont light friends. I am asking if lighting them all is really worth it if you have limited time? Is lighting all friends who might not play the game anymore your priority than meeting friends?
Yes
I am aware. This the reason I and other players turn down friend candles with a "sorry my constellation is full" to someone that just randomly got lit and just so happen to follow the same path.
You got yourself into that predicament of lighting up each and every single one of them, those are your friendships you decided to maintain, you said "i don't have time to light everyone and then candle run", manage your time, we have events like the geyser that will give you wax from time to time.
to which i can say, it's my appreciation. and like it or not, the system currently is exploited. no matter how much in denial people are.
I currently light everyone even if I don’t get a light back
Could you explain how is it exploited, really? I have bad memory
Personally, I think the seperate heart economy is a decision that needs more polish, as hearts are one of the least player friendly currency. expensive, hard to get, yet essential for some of the game’s main selling points. if it was just candles it’d be fine, but i feel the heart system needs more polish. without the polish, people are quick to give up on it, or break TOS.
Honestly, looking at how expensive heart items cost, people will still keep adding light- only friends beside their actual mutuals whether if the constellation is practical or not-
Old home space looks pretty in concept and execution, but my 365 candles and wobbly skykid legs would like to differ 
hearts are crazy difficult to earn the only way is spirits and constellation. which is in turn a headache of its own. people resort to trading because the constellation is in one word PAINFUL.
trade is allowed tho
ok so which of these sounds better iyho
🇦 the light all button is added, but you dont get any heart fragments (BUT sending a heart costs less candles 👀)
🅱️ the light all button is added, but you need double or MORE fragments to make one heart
if we had a more friendly option, maybe we wouldnt have to be having tis discussion,
Using alternative accounts to your own benefit is what isn't allowed
more likely break TOS 😆 , some even resorted to using tools not meant to be used
Wait, you can get hearts from ppl too right?
Did you say managing? You think spending 3 hours on constellation is not enough time? I have stopped doing full cr’s since they introduced the geyser.You still have to spend an hour or two to get enough number of candles every day.
I honestly don’t care if ppl play the game or not. If they light me or not. I want to light up everyone. I don’t expect one back. I don’t care what they think of the emotional sentiments of light up people. I want to light ALL my friends. I’m sure a lot of players do too. However that said, can we at least, the very least, get a search friend? Seriously the amount of times of server splits (don’t get me started) and I can’t tp to my friends. It’s driving me up the wall. So for shiny boi God’s sake. Can we PLEASE get a search friend button.
ONE per day per person and you cant send another until the day AFTER they accept the current one
I see i see
you can take off those on your fav list that is not supposed to be there.. then add to fav the important ones
You can only earn faster hearts if you get the right people. If you don't know how to initiate in a social *contract for them, you're pretty much done for 
It's a social currency, and a very difficult one once you run out of base hearts to buy
If they still get a reward, I would do it! Tbh I'm more concerned about my friends getting their light than checking I got it back
Although it's nice to see most of them send back... It feels like a small keeping in touch for people who can't keep in touch with so many people
So ppl are complaining with the problems of friends constellation, but why are you all getting intense when it comes to hearts?
Why does a flaw in the Constellation has to affect the players? Why should we change our play style or have to choose among our friends.
You don’t understand. I have to log off. On. Block. Unblock. Run into realm. Go back home. Repeat this whole process until I find the friend. I’ve spent on record, 1hour to find that one friend I split from. My Uber. My Uber waited one hour. How is that even fair.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but is it only being viewed as unfair because there is a currency involved?
The constellation certainly isn't perfect, but I do think it gets the job done. Realistically I don't think it should be viable to light a huge number of people per day, much the same as how the chevrons work to limit wax collection. If something is allowed to expand nigh limitlessly, gives currency and is easy to use, then that will just result in the currency inflating beyond usability.
If a light all button was to be implemented then I feel it would need to come in tandem with a limiting factor too. Heart chevrons may actually work well there as a possibility because then early moths get a nice amount on high chevrons and as it gets more a limit will be reached for maximum hearts from heart fragments possible per day.
I only spend 10 mins on my constal, and it's always full
Then spend another 10 mins once I finish my cr to check who lights me up late
And then spend 2 mins before the next reset to see if I missed anyone
it seems like the new constellation will be WAY better than what's in live at least, could be improvements but its a start!
By managing I mean prioritize. That's how you decided to spend your time.
Exactly.That’s I always uber people instead getting ubered myself.It’ll be impossible to find them if the server splits.
There are many ways to earn hearts, and i think the lighting of friends is just a little add on
it will be in beta for a looong time, it will be improved
‘Will be’ being the operative word
The bottom UI of the constall
I want my little seperated friend/realm constellation buttons on the rock back 
i am completely amenable to a limiting factor (similar to chevrons maybe). what im trying to get at here is that the constellation is painful as is. a light all could be a life saver for social people
i think what they mean is, if you have more than 70 people the older ones will get smushed away where you can't find them unless you spend several minutes methodically blocking others to find the person you wanted.
it's super not cool and peronally the reason i don't really friend anyone anymore
(plus the more friends you have the longer it takes to find one. i ant imagine having more than 70)
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
Star,I have prioritized enough people.As I said earlier I have already cleaned up my constellation by adding 200 into the block list.You can’t blame for being socially active.
I do notice that during in live when we haven’t light anyone, the constellation only shows our heart fragments/gift from friends. And most of the times, it doesn’t show my favourite friends because I have yet to receive the heart fragments. I don’t have 750+ friends, but they’re more than 72.
I wonder if, say, if I have 500+ (gosh, fingers). What if I light all, and my 500+ friends use the light all as well? How would my constellation shake? How would I receive the light fragments/collect hearts? It’s been stated that current constellation update is limited because of tech issues, and Sky already has a different game style from the beginning. Would my game lag, crash, because of the 500+ notifs?
I think it will be an issue. Imagine, let’s say, during reset for a new season or a popular TS. Imagine the notifs when at least 100 friends of mine uses ‘light all’. I’d like to know how would you react to this, or how your device reacts to this. Or when you wanna find a friend that is not on your new solar system constellation, not the special constellation. How would this solution be? Or should we have ‘receive all’?
Personally I like the personal light one by one because, chaos it will send during double heart events……….
if they gave us a light all button they would HAVE to give us a collect all one........ because i cannot IMAGINE collecting 500+ lights. i get maybe 50 at most
Imagine my friends and I have to spend 3 hours every day on this and these people want me to "manage" my time.
Then there's no much to do about that.
Receive all could be an option too but receiving all means you can’t see who’s already sent you light in consta because of the limitations.
Why? TGC should hear what the community wants.
Okay, i think we all agree with constellation being flawed, but we should also understand that a light all function would have a huge effect in the game, especially to those not as sentimental as others
they hear alright, but they won't always do
Instead of it being the other way around
In that case I'd be open to it. As long as there is a limiting factor to prevent abuse of the currency then I could see that working quite nicely. 
what i meant by unfair is
(a) having to resort to TOS breaking stuff to earn a mad difficult currency and afford the million events and travelling spirits
(b) the time that i am having to throw away on constellation rather than getting to spend the same with friends.
(c) the absolute pain the constellation is right now. maybe at least a remove/search friend option so i can painfully and manually light all friends to show my appreciation
i hope that made sense
Not much to do? Mate, we play daily. Never missed a day. Lights up our 500 friends or more. Lol we’re only asking for some options to make it easier.
That doesn't mean it will be immediately added.
They do hear the community, look at Sanctuary, the kalimba and the whole Little Prince IAP fiasco that happened on beta.
But sometimes what we want won't align with the devs vision and intentions
I think a lot of things in the game aren’t designed for daily, repetitive play. One of my latest pet peeves is the Home shrine zoom in. That was maybe a good idea to introduce the new feature for daily quests, but now it’s just nauseating every time I open the game. I literally have to look away from the screen until it’s over.
Light all, but you need 5x the fragments to forge a heart/j
I think our astrology issue will be fixed once TGC added an option to delete friend from list... we keep only those actively playing..
I think he means we cant really do anything but complain (unless TGC do something about it)
i never said im against a limiting factor. i would just like the game to be more friendly for serious players. if TGC considers and implements it it would be SO AMAZING.
thank you.
Agreed. The beta consta does the same too
Well. To be honest, I only get hearts regularly through friends' constellation, and I'm in peace knowing there's a time I invest there taking care of my friends to light everyone who appears (no idea how many friends I have), so I can live without getting a light all button but with the system remaining the same otherwise. It feels like a fair compensation?
I know there's some level of abuse, but
A. I don't think it's that higher or game breaking
B. Most people just want to be able to gift their friends even a small token, and the hearts come from holding that communication. So in a way, it's like mutual support to make us move forward
We do really need that search system tho
or a way to display hidden friends. Maybe friend constellations you can purposefully change or rotate once you're done with a group?
YES this! I thought I was the only one
An option is still better than not having an option.
Me too mate.
And no that's not what I mean @viscid cloud, I'm sorry if my phrasing is getting wonky and getting that across as English isn't my first language.
I agree.I just want y’all to support this issue instead of judging us on the number of friends we have and telling us to manage our times.If we all agree to this,they would surely implement it the future.
YESS another home shrine daily hater.
it's a pain and a half for me, the dailies are now hidden behind 1+ interactions (return shrine, any boats in the way) and i have to walk around the back of it and get the camera JUST right to interact with the thing.
WAY worse than just taking 3 steps towards the gate, there was nothing in the way of that 
give us back the gate dailies
Ohh i see, my bad for misunderstanding
obligatory "interacting with things that are close together sucks on Switch because the buttons overlap and you have to position the camera just right for the button you want " statement
I think its simply not viable to be buying everything at the moment. I'm from Sanctuary and sometimes it feels like if I was a season later I'd be sinking if I tried to buy everything. I'm in no way saying the solution is to not buy everything, especially with how rare some items can be, just simply observing from a point of view that not everyone has that much time. I don't really have a solution to that unfortunately. 
and yes i play on switch (only because my phone battery dies from 100 - 0% in less than 20 mins. i cant even play on it)
If we could just put it out there that we do value the time to light. Even if it's just on light-all button
There's an effort to push a single button, even if it's not the same as one by one
It's still an effort, and the fact that you had pressed that button to send light without really hoping much in return shows that you care
Or for those who just reflectively move their hands/push the buttons to light without looking at the skykids then call it a day me, that could make it faster (?)
there definitely is an inflation issue as well with the cost of things, would love to see that reduced (couldn't get juggler cause of sword pants, and i was only able to afford those thanks to the devcape candles)
The nauseating camera zoom thing used to be avoidable for me since it was the worst at wasteland temple krill cutscene, but now it's every time with the statue 
its cursed i tell ya
I'm heading to bed before something I said gets more misunderstood
Everyone is free to send what you think to #beta-feedback, I'm not judging anyone for the number of friends they have. Light All was simply said that it's not something planned at the moment and one can see why since people will find and exploit whatever they can like the candle exploit that happened here some time ago
You think they don’t play but because you don’t light them, your name gets flooded in their consta too. So which means if they don’t light you, you can’t find them. If you guys can’t find each other in consta, you can’t light each other up. Until maybe you server merged. This has happened to me plenty of times. Therefore I stick with needing the option of either finding a friend or light all.
Hmm if we’re gonna support the “light all” function, then the devs should do something about the hearts (like what others say, no heart fragments with Light All).
I’m sure TGC wants this resolved, but the problem is some people would abuse this function (if it still give heart fragments) resulting with heart fodders or friending someone just for the heart.
As much as kindhearted you all are (and this wholesome game) there are still people that hoards currencies.
heck i'd give for just a "light this page" button. if i gotta press the button to light 10 people 10 times it's better than lighting 100 people one by one <3
Finding a friend option could help with giving more sentimental value of lighting up people. How’s that for compromising?
OR, hear me out
We could just single tap to light
Double tap/hold to open the friend UI ( warp, send heart, etc )
With a refresh button on the side
- A search bar for a little bonus
That too, i agree
i think something more balanced is one click one friend, rather three clicks per friend
i saw the little buddy statue in nastymolds video hows that thing looking? any idea how it works? it looks cool
i stand by 'toggle tap to light'... 1 tap per friend + 1 tap to toggle onto it
there is a edit friend mode there definitely can be a light friend mode
honestly the way it seems for long term players like myself, sky has been reduced to currency exploits and a mad rush to buy cosmetics because it's important to 'express yourself'. i feel like that's quite unfair. i know i don't have to buy everything but it would be nice to at least have the option. it would be nice for us to at least have one thing that can make life easier regarding a difficult currency.
i'm lucky that i am able to afford cosmetics as i am playing since ages but it hurts to see my friends be unable to afford the same no matter how much they want it. (i kinda digressed but ok)
i feel like a light all with a limiting might be more helpful than negative.
ok now i must sleep im 45 past bedtimes
🏃
hope devs can figure out something helpful however long it takes!
Edit friend should just be replaced by that entirely. 'Editing' should just be a drag and drop
you underestimate slippery fingers
Hola
there is also some people i don't want to accidentally light during certain times 🥶
How often are invitations sent to the beta sky
So far I feel like it's been a all or nothing, I support a light all option but we should definitely be supporting the alternatives as a backup as well
Yes,I agree.People are already exploiting a lot of things.Wouldn’t IAPs gifting would also lead to exploitations? How does light all button hurt? When you need 60 lights to get just one heart.
all I ask is to have a constellation that can accommodate all your friends, kinda like the musicroamer UI for reference
when they need testers
Please read through #beta-faq
I want a delete option,search bar or a refresh button so that I don’t have to block so many people while sending lights.
I'm sure you probably have already but as a reminder to everyone here, be sure to leave #beta-feedback about the new constellation or #live-feedback if you're purely wanting to talk about the heart fragments, so that the Devs can see you. 
I mean, AP gifting is already exploitable if you're evil enough
That sort of issue is in the hand of the players morals now
And then CS can't do anything 
and its also tend to be players that suffer when things go wrong with these
If someone had 500 friends like people have claimed here, they would be receiving over 8 hearts a day by doing nothing but tap a button. That would certainly reduce the significance of hearts.
I think you’re forgetting that it took us more than a year of playing to accumulate that many number of friends.It was not a one day thing.
You think we having to spend 3 hours on sending lights is fair? And then another hour in unblocking them?
Exactly
I agree with that. I don't gift my (irl) friends money. I gift them objects I think they will like based on what I know about them.
People sure as heck didn’t add friends all in a day. It takes time. Effort. Socialising (shivers). And it take a lot a lot a lot of patience. Don’t say a button changes the value of friendships. Lol you might actually find it useful once you reach that many friends. You’re welcome. 
Okay, i understand your situation. But could you please calm down a little bit? You sound intense
People who don’t have to go through this ordeal every day think it’s a child’s play and we should just "manage" our time.Just because you don’t have that many number of friends and don’t have to go through this every day doesn’t mean it’s the same for everyone.Please be understanding and think about us old players as well.
Old 
I don't know what I walked into, but it seems a bit heated, and it's 2am. I'm calling it a night. Happy testing all, I'll read through this tomorrow
Vets I mean
.C’mon my Assembly moths already have over 100 friends.
I ain’t calling myself a vet. Apparently that’s a whole other world of qualifications you need to have to be considered a vet. I’ll stick with old. Tyvm

But you're arguing that the time and effort put into earning friendships is what makes them valuable.
I'm arguing that continuing to spend time and patience on them by lighting stars is what maintains that value?
Most of these friends are just randoms whom I havent interacted since the day i friended them. Its not like im having fond memories and wanna look at them every day and remember them with good thoughts and smile on my face. Mostly i have no clue who those randoms are. But i feel its fair to light them, to help anyone to advance in game.
Also a large bunch is inactive and quit playing after first day. But they're still on my list.
Sometimes it just wont be viable to do a whole lighting session every day with this current format and that's okay. Sure other ideas might be better and that's what discussion is for, but we're not forced to light everyone either. 
That my way of doing things.It varies from person to person.I won’t be able to find my friends if I don’t light them up.Managing a huge constellation is not easy.
That too
Agreed. But yea a light all would be a sweet sweet option. Delete friend too. Ah. Such dreams.
Okay, just be sure to take breaks if it becomes too taxing. 
Omg I agree.If a person doesn’t send lights every day,most people think they’re inactive and have stopped playing.
That’s what I said earlier. You probs thought they aren’t playing anymore but they’re having the same issue we’re facing lmaooooo
Sometimes at mediation reading and liking others notes it be like: oh.. i have a friend called Kolon. Never seen 👀
It has become way too much taxing and I’m literally on the verge of quitting.People think I’m lying when I told them I have this many number of friends and said it’s not possible.I have been playing since April 2020,the game was so relaxing for me initially and it is not anymore.I like meeting new people every day and I’m quite socially active (which is what the game is about) but just because some people don’t have to do this every day they can’t judge others as well.The constellation is flawed and we do need a change.
I believe u when you say you have a lot of friends, I’m sure a lot of people do. I also have the same issue with not befriending moths because they’ll get buried.
Not entirely. There are people with language barriers or anxiety. Not nice to assume you’re being used.
The current constellation on live is also a mystery. I have my own long time inactive temporary account always visible (not on favorites list) and same time can't see active online friends on constellation while im at home space with them. Where's the logic?
I ate it 
I very rarely want to sit and just chat. I prefer to do things together, solve something, experience a memory. Adding someone after that feels natural and doesn’t have to mean anything other than that I appreciated the time we had together and would like to contribute to your heart fragments in my small way. (Or even send a whole heart from time to time.)
But what people is saying here is there are still a lot of problems before adding a function to easily access friend constellation.
I honestly don’t find that interesting either for a first time meeting. If we meet again and become more regular play friend I might end up asking.
Noo I don’t think so.I haven’t spoken to a lot of my moth/friends either and don’t even know their names and they don’t always send lights either.It’s just what as Mothra said people may have language barrier or anxiety.
To show that I enjoyed my time with them and maybe hope to see them again. And yes, to give them the gift of light or a heart.
I am currently in Live giving hearts to two friends every day, where I have specifically said not to return unless very occasionally. Because I don’t need them anymore and because it just feels nice to give things. Basically paying it forward from when others helped me.
i honestly wish I randomly friended more people that I meet, I often regret not doing so once we've split up 😭
just to like, have the opportunity to run into cool people again and get to chat later is nice imo, and I've made some really great friends that way
Well, I’m old-school.
Fostered in the pre-QR time of Sky.
But that’s the thing about Sky: everyone is a stranger, but potentially a friend. And just like in real life, you should strive to be kind to everyone without ulterior motives.
No one said you were unkind? I’m not sure why you are saying that.
for now
Hello everyone
What is heart bits ? This is the first time i heard them
Light fragments from friend constellation
Overall i only add the one i already know
Some moths that i added at Live are named randomly by myself, i never bother asking their NickNames for Games
Also i always light everyone even if they didn't Lit Back, it is just habit of mine
Pretty much i don't need Heart Bit/Light Fragments too cause My Adoptive Parents in this Game always sending me Hearts with total 5 Heart per Day in Live Version
Thought..there was once i blocked someone cause they asking for something with Money Bought by guilt tripping
Do the new idle wax spots have a limit? If so, do they share the same limit or do they have independent limits?
As far as I tried, they don’t share a limit with the idle wax spots at Home
I'm curious when the light encounter test suit will be released.
We never know, please read #beta-faq.
(And...I think translator (?) makes the whole sentence a little bit confusing...)
Wonder if that sentence turned back from English to original language would make sense?
How would all you who don't have English as native language comment the beta translations? My observations are that English to Estonian (my native language) and Arabic to Estonian (tested with a friend) are somewhat very good. Chinese to Estonian is really funny tho. But ig it's cos Chinese has lots of dialects
English and french to german works rather well, chinese (Not sure? but had at least similar letters) turns out to be difficult to translate. Especially the names of places cause trouble (I'm quite sure there's a place that's called mutu in chinese but no idea where that would be). For the rest, I think it's mostly understandable what people want to say, though it sometimes requires some creativity to understand. The translator however does get trouble when the sentences turn very difficult...
About the translator, it doesn't work for message boats or candles, right?
fyi sky in chinese called 光遇
光 = light
遇 = encounter
We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @timid bough. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.
No. And cant even copy the text to paste it in google translator.
the difficulty in translating things is when people in that certain language doesn't refer to something literally, but rather in slangs
just like how localisation efforts require some familiarity with the subject to translate things correctly
Okay, sometimes it does get strange/rules out too many grammatic errors. "Grandma Belonging is here"-> "Grandma belongs to here"... Just testing it with random sentences...
Lol I went to try. From English to Estonian it translates correctly. But it doesn't make sense in estonian. Cute tho
mutu is golden wasteland..
But you really don’t need to ask their name. Only if they give you their name themselves then you can say yours. Only give said name if people are comfortable with it. That’s how I roll.
ping is off We shouldn't pressure people into giving their personal info. Online safety should be a thing for everyone. For some their name, even just their first time, is really personal. If they don't want to tell you it, they probably have a reason and we should respect it. Someone added me once, asked for my name and I said toast. Then proceeded to ask me for my 'real' name whenever I was online every single day, until I blocked them🧍 Sky is full of children as well
mutu is actually cemetery ground for direct translation ...
yup 墓土
the mu墓,is from the word fen坟mu墓,cemetery, graveyard or a tombstone itself
tu土, just means ground or land
Hello again, do someone have still Problem to log inside the Beta game? Or i am the only one here?
I have samsung 8 phone
Can somebody help me pls 🥺
And where can i Report this bug to Tgc?
I never had this problem on my android so I can't answer your first question but you can report it in #beta-bugs-android.
Last I tested translation (Filipino to English) in beta was like weeks ago, but it does work pretty fine and was amazed back then. Can improve. Mostly did words and short sentences. Haven't tried the other way around cuz I didn't know how to xD
@tender oasis ...thanks 🙂
That is why Chinese have their own Server
But somehow , they eventually able to access Global server
No, that's not the reason they have their own server.
I hope we get the blizzards back, even if only just a couple times a week. the clear sky is cute, but the misty air was really different, and a breath of fresh air.
Can we get idle Christmas colored WAX? I see red and white all we need is GREEEEN
Ask for it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived !
this channel is for discussion between players about current beta findings
🎶ALL I NEED FOR CHRISTMAAAAAAAAAAAAAS IIIIIIIISSSS GREEN WAAAAXXXX🎶
sorry I had to 
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
is colored wax a recent addition?
Not really
It was first introduced during bloom.
The different colour is only for the aesthetics, it doesn't give any special perks
OH, i totally forgot abt bloom wax 
i thought the green wax from mischief and the white-blueish wax from feast is new 
in any case i rly it! i hope they continue on doing that next year with more events. i think rainbow colored wax could be cool for days of rainbow 
Yes me too I still have that problem and many other players. From what I understood it's in known issues now and tgc is working on it.
You can report in #beta-bugs-android by clicking on a flame that looks like this 
All I want for Christmas is TGC to let me log in to the game instead of crashing 
@spark lance ...thank you 🙂
Ahh that's understandable then, sorry thought you meant real name^^
Sorry if this has been asked but…what is the timer for Belonging Grammy to show up in forest? It’s my day off and I wanna eat a nice home cooked meal with her 🥺
30 min after geyser event starts
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
h-how
i thought u were using a very old android, congrats
@kindred fossil
google play store
Keep task manager open as the snowflakes slowly stack up, but not for too long
oh ops, well you just wait for the invites in ||#beta-signup-info || (not sure if this counts as spoil but i will still add the tag)
No need to spoil anything in beta channels^^ Read beta faq as others have already said, it has an answer to everything:)
Currently beta isn't open
Beta invites will appear to you once you get the right role in beta faq. It exists, you just the role to see it
When will the days of feast testing end?
Never, it'll be Christmas forever
There’s a few more things to test from the wrong patchnotes we were given a day or two ago - not anytime soon
There is no finishing date still
Okok
As long as we need to test it. For example, Mischief was only a few days since testing went smoothly.
what do you mean there was no mischief with the mischief testing? 
how about this: a "note" feature that allows you to write info about someone so you remember them
^ this can also be used to remember pronouns and alternative nicknames
currently i rely on a level system
❔= moth, stranger, someone i don't remember
✨= acquaintance that friended me, someone i don't know well
⭐ = buddy, someone i know okay
🌟 = friend, someone i know well
💫 = best friend (only one person has this)
🚗 = i ubered
🚕= they ubered
very handy
I like to add 💞 if the friend does heart trades ^^
@rapid bane, soliciting and offering currency or trades is against the rules in this server. Please edit or remove your message.
I didn't 😭
skybot working as nintended I see
I see
Wow i just saw a beta update in my dream when a Community Manager"spoiled" a new season content which show a group of 4 seasonal spirits (the design looks very unfinished ngl). And they spoiled a video which shows next days of summer's new props which also concluded controllable boat. It was so awkward omg 💀💀💀
- stretches in the bugged level 4 *
We will meet you one day oh mighty arsonist spirit.
Your arrival is predicted in our murals
The chosen one - the one to dethrone juggler from the hype throne, the one to save us all, the meme Lord, the legend, the ARSONIST
P. S. Devs if you read this please name them "the chortling arsonist"
tall boi's eye still looks creepy. just increasing eye scale more will fit to every size of children...
@Ktjn#8721
ktjn is online but they have dnd on so
Pinging devs is one of the 7 deadly sins
While you do can you please tell her that Ignis is still waiting for hermes
whos hermes
It's a long story
i heard theyre working on having all masks be able to blink? 
:aaaahhEyes:
👀 do you remember what the 4 spirits looked like? maybe theyd make good ocs
As of right now, only human like masks and a few animal masks can blink. Others are shaped in a way that make it hard for them to blink
And for obv reasons, no mask doesn't blink. 
Will they be able to blink one day? Who knows 
then open it's eyes
Problem solvered
A "reverse Blink" 
we are not allowed to ping devs
ur profile picture is legendary
UNBLINK
Tho I believe there's a reason behind no mask having eyes closed all the time and not blinking
Youi can just post it in here or #beta-feedback
it IS the same 'mask' an extinguished/unlit kid has. so ig its just everyones default appearance under the mask?
The reason - they probably couldn't animate it aesthetically and it looked like 2 light balls on a human face which looked way to creepy so they scraped it and said
"just keep them closed and say nothing, make them think there's some hidden reason behind it that they need to figure out"
/j
Random thought, if it's possible to hug the quest givers now, is it also possible that we're gonna have the feature of hugging the TS as well?
that'd be cute as
imagine hugging the hiking grouch though 
"No child I do not like hugs, but since you spent all your candles on me then I guess it's fine." 
any meditation quest after reset today ? 
Probably the reason
if we keep up all the hugging soon we will be able to hug the elders
Full friend trees with all the characters in the game 
i dont think reset is still for another half hour
itd still work doe
i prefer the closed eyes, its cute and soft and having a face with no features and JUST eyes would feel creepy. at least with the mask it makes sense
Still waiting when we can hug the office npc
The ||office shop||NPC?
Oops beta no spoiler....I don't know it feels like we only get emotes with event ones where we can unlock a tree.

https://twitter.com/thatskygame/status/1118624297168195585?s=20
Hey, can anyone explain more clearly what exactly this is?
Think about it, office npc is the only other skykid around (everyone else is a spirit). She is always there showing her cape,or inviting us to parties. She deserves some love 🥺🥺
We had bloom cape for spring , Christmas cape for winter and Halloween cape which looks like a leaf for autumn
Will we get a cape for summer too?
We only had props and accessories including the hats for it
I think summer deserves a cape too

Didn't we get a summer cape already?
Did we?
I don't remember getting one actually;-;
Second Days of Nature began during the summer, and there was an ocean cape for it, if that counts
Well, I meant a FREE cape
Getting one with candles only
Ocean cape was in IAP and only in CN version was free
That's an old post
oh
I saw it on my feed recently and thought it was recent news
it came out on my feed the same time as the new beta update, so
I suggest checking out the dates of posts if you're not sure it's new or old. That's a post from 18 April 2019
oh boy this message is a while ago, didn’t realise
but this would very much creep me out severely
I don’t want them to blink at all, chibi is enough and I get unsettled enough at that
wait wrong channel
well not really wrong
but yes
thought I was in #seasons-events-chat for some reason
They have the size of chibis. The seasonal spirits have geometric shape while the Questgiver is a chibi
How to get test service qualification?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Just to suggest: isn't the assembly green cape suitable? Very leaf and plant-like.
Please read through #beta-faq
Can I be a tester??
@fiery glacier
You can
But wait for the Invitation
Yo the new music sheet is so gorgeous. I was not expecting something so pretty from an event
I wish i could send a video of me playing it but my recording quality is trash
Oh ok thanks
If you wanna choose a cape for summer from the seasonal capes I'll choose the prince's scarf also season of sanctuary's capes are suitable as well
I mean all of them even the ult gift which is the manta cape
anyone else thinks the new constellations look really bad and over simplified
Summer is too hot to wear a cape
this is the first iteration of the new constellation rework, I think they focused on having the functionality working properly so it's given that the appearance is currently simple
feel free do to a feedback #beta-feedback
I'm sure i'll get used to it.The new constellation.
It looks like Skyrim skill tree constellation lol
❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌
❌ New consolation ❌
❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌
Don't fret too much. It's still at it's early stages, fortunately www
Consolation..? For what

I think they meant to say constellation
I geniunely don't understand what "shrines" or spam posts like those are going to get you. If you have feedback and ideas for the new constellation, then go into #beta-feedback and then share it with us. Shrines just clog the chat and are extremely disruptive, especially in a channel that intends to have long, deep and thoughtful discussions to improve on the game.
I gotta say I prefer the previous realm constellations
Same, but if you don't count cosmetics I really like the new friends constellation. The only real bad point I found is that you have to use a button to switch between spirits and friends in my opinion.
i think the new constellations are neat but i wish that the camera would pan faster when i try to light candles 
if they make the camera pan faster, i think they need to shorten the distance of the camera pan, because it makes me so dizzy as it is now 
i agree, the zooming is a little disorienting 
I also really liked the previous friend star design. The new circle is just oversimplified
When using a controller you can't even scroll all the way to the top or the bottom of the circle.
I think what I dislike most by now is the "solar system" constellation, because it makes our friends not stars, not even planets, but planetoids... While the sorted ones remain Stars... Feels like a degradation or a hierarchy... The dots are ugly but if I remember well, a dev said design will come later.
Which channels can apply for beta later?
make sure to read through #beta-faq ! it has all the information you need to be notified where to go when invites happen 
I mean, it could always be stars around the center of a galaxy!
although it's a fair assessment
It's been officially called a solar system... While there are systems of multiple Stars, those usually don't contain 40 or so, and the paths are far more complex than the circles shown... If we took stars orbiting a supermassive black hole, they would have a far more elliptical path and any two would not have the same orbit...
Okay, I should stop here instead of giving an astrophysics talk, it'd be quite off-topic... I guess it is already...
Btw, I quite like your idea of changing it from planetoids in a solar system to having rhe shape of a galaxy...
Anyone getting motion sickness from the new constellations? Haha or just me? It made me feel dizzy 😵💫
Yes! Me too oof i have to stop playing with it 
The current one don’t give you a percentage of completion 
To be honest, i like the old realm constellation because I think it is faster and convenient when you just only make your POV to which realm that you like to open.
yeees i think is the continuous zooming in and back , also when the kids go up and down when u light them 
The spirit constellations switch between day and night rapidly when I tap on spirit trees to buy stuff 
Btw about the season of flight, I hope TGC would give the opportunity for the future seasonal maps to have their own cloud path. 
is it weird to want to be able to hug the off-season questgiver
I really really want to (only saying here because spirit hugs are a spoiler)
it'd be nice to, I don't like them being left out
it also does not give you the name of the realm you are viewing, which i think is an essential information, especially for someone who will join after the update is live
I agree... In general, more interaction with the spirits would be nice... Though there's a risk that it makes them too... people-like?
they are our ancestors tho right? I think it would be really nice to feel a bit more connected with them, at the moment it feels like most of the spirits are just shop keepers
Somwhow true, but if they get too much interaction they'd feel too alive I think... They are (at least that's what I think) supppsed to be leftovers from a time long past...
I’m not sure, but I feel there’s a shift in that narrative with one line in particular: “The spirits have been waiting for your arrival… and your light”
A similar line was used for Flight, I think
they gave the constellations greyed out circles that are big enough that they look like they should unlock something. but theyre just stars.
Aren’t those the decorative stars from before, just more visible? They were always confusing to some
To be honest, those grey stars exist in live as well... Just starshaped, but same icon as an unlit very new friend...
now that theyre more visable i find them more confusing. the decorative stars dont need attention
That’s correct
at this point im not 100% sure that these spirits are dead. the line is being blurred more and more with each update
I feel they’re aware, but to an extent
The chime in home space is awful and makes me sad. It hurts my eyes, my ears and is 100000% disruptive. It ruins socializing and music practice. It the embodiment of immersion breaking.
beta contest
I think this is how the person tried to share their opinion about the new feature. This is their way of delivering the message and I don't see anything wrong with that. Maybe that person has already sent their feedback you know? They are just trying to share their feelings here too. Besides, I don't think this channel is created for "long, deep discussions" because demographics here is rather diverse. We are not professional testers, and this is the social media.
I feel like there should be an indicator at home that tell you when the Eden statues reset, and that they could use the chime on Eden portal to draw attention to it. I didn't have any other means aside from Discord to obtain the information that the statues reset because there was no indicator anywhere in the game.
Huh
how many shared spaces do we have in beta atm?
whoa! shared space contest 
No updoot but nice i must win
Is that the “normal candle” giveaways they shared like what? Back in Sanctuary & never mentioned since?
so thats what the channel i saw appear suddenly is for

are the candles for beta as well? 
Well this is new!
contest time! i wonder what wonders we shall see #902251429882912798 
ngl what's the point in entering a contest for beta candles when they can just take it away on a whim 🤣
30 candles, pretty small amount.
Oooo gonna give this a try
Imma share a screenshot with my black screen before I crash yeah
it may be for testing as well, or we'll get that in live
Candles are gone on a whim, but the glory is forever 
the bragging rights 
"Minimalism"
makes summoning circles with braziers
30 candles.... hmm
minimalism… how minimal is minimal…
a single pillow
minimalism but u just dont put any props down
20 jars in a stack is surely minimal
Lets make beta history 
smart, one step ahead
i don't remember where all the shared spaces are
It almost sounds like a trap.
WOW I THOUGHT WE GOT AN UPDATE BUT good luck to the Sky Architects 
Treehouse assembly, prairie and office
let's think about it sculpturally
they want us to create modern art
i had the same idea too 
thank you!
Maybe tgc wants us to test shared spaces


See, I told you it was a trap. 
shared spaces sounds like fun now 
"maybe if we give them some candles theyll actually want to test the shared spaces" /lh
30 candles in beta is the same as a whisper in the wind
that's definitely the reason wym 
I have a few ideas i'll do it tomorrow 
Hint for the sky Architects: ||the Office Shared space||
300 candles and im in /j
hi quick quedtion, how to create more constellation groups which is different from the first default three favourite friend groups in the constellation
In beta I recall you can have up to 10 custom groups
Watch the 30 candles be wiped because there was some forging bug and everyone else got 1000s.
You cannot
more appear as you make more friends, 10 groups is max
Whenever you add a friend to the next empty constellation, you get a new one until you have 10.
ooh it's like that…
they're bribing us to play with shared spaces now i think that's proof of a fundamental failure somewhere down the line
Ohhh maybe that's why i only have 8
they should make the prize 1000 candles and immediately reset us all to like 20 or something 
I have to favourite 80 people then move the places in order to have all 10 to be out?
Add one friend to each of the constellations and see what happens 😉
my creativity suddenly disappeared, idk what to do for the contest

you have to have a certain number of friends to see all 10
I just rushed and did the first thing i saw, foxes 
Don't care if I win or not. It's just foxes. Everyone loves them
👁👁vault floor changed..
i literally have 2 props 😭
it's minimal!
@ the second entry it reminds me of the double decker couch from the lego movie 
10 friends are enough for that, I have 10 friends in beta and see all constellations.
Do you think the sky can bring the next season in the second gate? This is just a poll
dark i don't have that many ac for an apartment. may i pay you in dismiss cape? that i dont have 
Yes.
I think the next season is in Golden Westland
thank you!!
there we go i work with what i have even if its jsut pumpkins i am an artist /j
one in a new constellation will work
Would YOU pay 10 AC for a peaceful night at the Prairie?
I love it I giggled u made my day
i raise u by 20
how many shared spaces r there 
Edit: I mean the event```
Too many moths toot tooting all night. It's like a party district in a city 
u called?
I have to get my resize potion money somehow
That can be taken care of.
I aim for at least a 99.9% satisfactory score
moth prop when i want a shared space moth army 
dark's enterprise is 100% tripadvisor recommended
I wish TGC would make the house bigger, for example, a small island around a large island
I would give you my literal last AC to help you,dark. No, seriously, I have 1 and I wish I could gift it to you.
i think it's in valley 
im about to use my wild card for this contest ...yall are NOT ready
We’re all hoping for aviary to come back but making the island bigger would be cool too I guess
I think Flight area is as close to Aviary as we'll ever get. My bet is on Isle.
why are you not sleeping lol
there's been a few interesting bugs with placeholder emotes and stuff being added to valley so i think there's a pretty high chance of the next season being there, even if it's weird since dreams was basically five minutes ago
I don’t really see aviary in that, maybe the vibe but not the place itself
I don’t understand still, how would Aviary exactly fit current Sky? I know it’s pretty and all but, I never understood the hype as I have only witnessed it through screenshots, which only highlights its beauty, but not the downsides which get overlooked often
I think it would be great to add a few small islands to a small cottage
The evil laugh looking emote I’ve been seeing floating around gives me strong wrryyyyyy vibes. I’m sorry 
Well this is new
That's why I said "as close as". Aviary won't return, they've said that.
who ses im not sleeping
They stated aviary won’t return?
Yes, it's been said many times over the past years.
The place itself won't
We have been getting places with the vibes tho, such as wind paths and sanctuary of you squint
You put such theme and expect me not to make a meme out of it?
whenever i look back on light awaits i get so sad because of what the game could've been. imagine if we had the old isle and the elder helped us ride a boat to prairie 
Yeah, I do miss the old Isle. It made more sense lore-wise.
lol if you squint
Gotta love my new house heater, Thanks Light Awaits!
jogio <3
from all the videos I've seen it looked epic
#beta-discussion message
here's one of the messages about aviary. they have been giving us bits and pieces of what players liked about it, but aviary itself won't be coming back
on top of that it was also just a lot more aesthetically pleasing. while i do like the current view from the cave with the temple in the distance, looking at isle objectively is kinda weird. there's just a random rock in the middle of the area and then the rest of the terrain is totally flat, it doesn't make much sense
A quick comment was enough dont need that.
They were only trying to be helpful.
isle is just a tutorial area and i think they just scaled it up way too far. running around a desert for 20 minutes isn't exactly a riveting experience for moths
Huh was I mean?
She was only providing evidence, as misinformation is rampant in the community
It was a bit dismissive, maybe.
Can someone answer me 
Sorry yo lmao didn’t meant it to be mean
We cool then
just in case you needed evidence that a community dev said it instead of some random person, rumors and misinformation spreads in this community incredibly fast
are we allowed to discuss spoiler topics freely in beta channel? stuff like the contents of eden/secret areas
why shared spaces doesn't have any kind of food 
Yes
aviary wont return.....?
....yall seen flight right?....yall seen Ash's memes about it right?
they never said they weren't gonna bring aviary elements back to sky
*As long it doesn’t contain datamined/modified/hacked content
lets be direct
season of flight is the second life of the aviary
I'd join the contest but I don't have props on beta to do what I want.
dont let such things stop you
the theme is literally minimalism
the theme is minimalistic... so you could pretty much place one thing and it will follow the theme 
what's Ash's instagram, can anyone plz share 
But I don't have another prop to form the connections
This entry is a great example of that: #902251429882912798 message
It literally is just the pipe on the shrine stone
You can find that through their profile info.
ash's profile only has a twitter linked, jsut checked
Yes, and if you follow that the first/pinned post is a link post to all their other social media.
great, thanks! 
:c
@grizzled kayak that is…. pure art (your entry in the contest)
thank you Evinsky. Pillows were the true ultimate gift of assembly.
Ooh the new event sounds fun! Maybe I could participate in it
I really like Zaan's entry. So far my favourite
zaan entry tho..
Its perfection.
Imagine winning those 30 candles and then TGC resets everyone’s candles to 100 or less because of another candle bug
venting time! yes feedback exists im aware, just yelling to the clouds
unpopular opinion: the secret place in vault isnt a good location to hold party events because we cant even warp to friends who are in there so player traffic will always be confused and low
so imo the new skater rink wont even be that fun even in live without the higher player traffic
thats why i always get kinda sad to hear all of the stuff they actually put effort in are always
- temporary
- places with low player traffic
events at home get away with this better because it instantly has higher player traffic
(but there's still the fact that it all goes away anyway..)
i kinda wish theyd add things related/connected to sky
we can have spooky things/areas in wasteland that are halloween themed (or maybe the spirits are all dressing up in a village)
we can have spirits be festive and merry during feast
or, ig, just let us warp to friends at office for events 
and make servers merge more busily
the social game do be empty
cries i finally have a phone that can run sky and idk if i can join beta lol
!ts
The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on <t:1635404400:F> (<t:1635404400:R>) 
You can read about how Traveling Spirits work here:
http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
Wait really? 
Excuse me? For the shared space beta contest, can I just edit a place from the game that is already in the beta game?
decorate any shared space in beta and take a screenshot
Wait wait wait, decorate like with in game items?
Props, such as the jar, the table, the pipe, so on
Yes, hence it is a shared space contest
Shared Spaces is a new mechanic in the game that allows you to edit selected spaces with decorative props that you own.
Aside from Assembly and ||Office ||, where are the shared spaces?
I recall Flight area and Prairie social space having shared spaces
Thanks. I wish we had a snowy one
People are mistaking beta contest for beta screenshots I see
"make it minimalistic"
"stack all the props, got it"
"I said-"
"Max out the items in the shared area, I hear ya loud and clear"
in all honesty a contest wasn't the best of ideas for beta...
I own basically nothing yet, so minimalist is what you’ll get
o o
minimalism is a subjective term
How do I share my contest photos and or where do I post them?
That’s what I noticed too lol
You can share your contest photos in #902251429882912798
#902251429882912798 and attach images from your phone photos folder
omg the new constellation is so strange
the contest is probably more of a way to get ideas from players to improve shared spaces rather than just a fun contest for beta
Why not both? 
does this emoji count as the big bird being in the game, i wonder
elder bird foreshadowing
Bea's memes have finally paid off
Prize 30 regular candles... looks at my hundreds that got converted from the season Yeah, not worth entering the contest for the prize...
Do it for the memes
ehhhh
Me wasting an hour looking for shared spaces… then painstakingly editing it with my whole 3 props…
Suddenly everything vanishes… oh right it’s beta…
Re-enters shared space… props are saved…. Great let’s take screenshots.
“Can’t share space since you shared it earlier”

I still haven't touched shared spaces in live or beta...
is feast over yet?
im really worried about granny disappearing
the fact that shes knitting feast clothes makes it look like she wont be a permanent addition to the game, which would just be so dumb
does anyone think granny will disappear?
My Sky apartments arrangement took a good while to get the tents to stack properly, even then it’s a little off, but that’s the best I could. Editing is still seriously frustrating, I haven’t touched SS outside of testing. (My entry is an old screenshot, thought it fits the challenge)
Yes? After Feast is over I assume she has to depart
that really sucks
theyre creating all these new interactable animated npcs every season or big event, yet the actual permanent game we see day to day will never get the love new additions (that again they throw away for an entire year) will get
vanilla will forever be left alone
I’m unsure if dinner time at Sunny Forest is permanent
i believe a dev confirmed it would be permanent. gimme a sec to find it
We're getting 4 new passive wax areas per #beta-announcements that are permanent...
im talking about spirits and actual gameplay bru
but yes those are v cool
I’m a little lost
Yes -- and one of the 4 passive wax areas is where grandma appears. That one in particular wouldn't make a whole lot of sense if she was removed from the area, since she's the one who appears to summon the wax
she is?? it looked like it came from the fireolace, thats pretty cool
Imagine all those seasonal areas that players never visit that are permanently added to the game....
#beta-discussion message ktjn on granny being permanent
voi speed, i just found that message 
Grandma is very unlikely to stay at the bonfire by Home, if that's what you mean. In the Sunny Forest, however, she's clearly standing around preparing some cooking before serving "dinner" at the table on a 2 hour rotation
fr lol player traffic is so bad in most seasonal areas, yet they constantly add more
keywords, keywords 
yeoyep, i meant the rotation
im glad it looks like its here to stay
never mind seasonal areas, I haven't been to the actual top of Vault where there're portals back Home or into Eden in quite a few months now 
The last Home portal standing…
At least the oob at the end of vault/eden preview is nice
The cutscene desert where the krill appears during LPP is another spot I haven't really visited in a long time -- it looks neat, but I've got no real gameplay reason to go there. Kind of a pity that there're a lot of existing zones that we just don't have a reason to revisit at the moment.
Edit: no go away krillbot, I'm not sharing any winged light with you 
@sullen relic doesn't matter if we are not in the same team, you're amazing just the way you are 
Looks neat, but it’s an absolute frame killer
or isle temple
I go to the Isle Temple sometimes because it has one of my favorite tracks
Well isle temple has candles whereas end of vault/ home portal has none

BEA THEY ADDED AN EMOJI!!!! IT MEANS SOMETHING BEA!!!!
BEA THERE STILL IS HOPE!!!!!
yeah here's hoping
Prepping for next season, obviously 
@slim kayak Only YOU can scare moths in the Fire Trial with Team Shadow

what's all this about teams 
either krillbot's getting into Pokemon, or it's just trying to lull us into a false sense of security so it can krill us, probably
new pokemon game but named after the two sides of the wasteland war or something
the shields
i don't remember pokemon being a war game
wait since when was #902251429882912798 a thing
so sword/shield, but spear/shield
make sure to read the latest post in #beta-announcements 
waiting for ktjn to chat here so i can ask them a question
does it tho

not answering questions today. too many meetings.
now i'm just picturing the 3 krill heads each having a different meeting while sticking to the same trench coat
ultimate multitasking 

1st krill is Samantha - the one having the meetings
2nd krill is Ktjn - she is in discord
3rd krill are (were) the Ktjn clones. They appear and dissappear periodically
Noone knows who these clones are 
#beta-discussion message
clearly we have forgotten rupert, oliver and josephine
I took so many pictures and now I'm puzzled which one I share for contest 
Huh?
Bea's second name is Oliver btw
And Josephine went to sanctuary and never came back
send them all of course 
I think sanctuary guide healed them so they are a brid now
I assume edited images are not considered. So put them in #beta-screenshots-videos instead
- this emote.. Why does it looks like it has legs... Does it have quad wings? What's that if not legs
One of those is its tail, it does have multiple wings
Tail is visible behind. But didn't realise it has more than 2 wings!
You can watch the Rhythm final cutscene for reference
2 sets of wings
Just did in YT. It does have 4 wings 

\[T]/
Oh great Megabirb

Oh yeah it does have 2 set of wings
Does anyone know where they send the clues for the traveling spirit?
not a beta question the fun hints are usually posted in #general-sky-discussion, but the actual teaser is posted in #news
Thanks 🥰♥️
They added the
emoji to tease beta players /j
They saw the bird memes and said "ok new emoji"
Birb
@pale junco Only YOU can scare moths in the Fire Trial with Team Shadow

Shut
i'm a bird can't you see
ehe bird time
Can you only send one photo to participate in the competition? I wanted to send a short story.
It will take an hour to send out the second photo.
You can enter many times, but only the oldest will be counted 
*heart shattering noise*
Fine. I just want to show the whole story. But now it seems impossible.There are pictures of others in the middle.
Thank!!☺☺
I can't understand that the crash bug still doesn't fixed.
For all android 9, samsung galaxy s8 and some other phones....
I'm so unlucky abt that 😭
On an unrelated note, the elder bird emoji is adorable nonetheless www
i want to hug hide/seek pioneer
Guys I forgot, where was the third shared space?
There is an island on the new map.
Thank you 💘
You can merge many pics into one. Make a collage or idk how they're called
If my apophenia was a bell it would be ringing right now
Thank u
#902251429882912798 message
ok my fave entry so far
My fab are Zaan and Voi
Also I like this person's entry-they have nothing in their shared space. Quite funny
Some would even say its a deep meaningful statement through art
As if minimalism - keeping the bare essentials
They basically are saying shared space are not essential
Quite smart
Shadow and lit skykid having a conversation under an umbrella about light not being essential
Ignis’s shared space submission >
#902251429882912798 message I wonder if they will ever be increasing the shared space storage. With my screenshot, the bonfire was a carried prop and it was completely full without it
it looks pretty bare bones
Trading heart with friends is still bugged.. if it reached live, uproar will occur.
:000 hi nastyyy i love ur vids lol
le gasp
Is this cheating?
there’s no rule against it
Tbf I’d be fine if my screenshot was forfeited I just wanted to make something 
hmmm
Sorry I didn’t say hi, but then neither did you. I think we were both busy building. 
dear devs add a social space in the middle of graveyard where the krill walk. best screenies
Shared space at the star cliff by the catapult in graveyard perhaps?
Only a slight chance of krill baiting
sounds quite dangerous 
there is this high up cliff up above the crab spitroast
too high for krill to reach (but also hard to get to since its high up)
If anything, I did miss a darker back drop when doing this challenge.
I did wonder where this post came from #beta-screenshots-videos message
Other than to wind up the big birb enthusiasts ...but it's an emote!
i cannot wait to stack pots in live
cool function idea: allow guide function to be used in Eden so we can guide moffs (and uber randos)
@regal niche what👀
please wait a sec i'm searching for records
check this:
Got it he he sorry for the misunderstanding

I found a post too that shows the difference
#beta-screenshots-videos message
No biggie. Ktjn said it might be deactivated again but I guess they decided to keep it at last.
im a burd
when tgc needs more testers. it wont happen until 2021 ends i guess
ah its on #beta-signup-info when its ready
I didn't miss the winter theme because of those crashes did I? Or is it still going? 
Feast? It’s still ongoing
(◡ ω ◡)
Is the testing server in the sky beta?

Ah thank u, I hope i won't miss it 
Where’s the share space in flight area? Is the contest over
Left side of the entrance
No it isn't over yet
@still socket is it true you are... A JELLYFISH? 
Is this true you are ... A KRILL? 
wait is there a shared space in wind pat
Yep
Its in sky??????
Can anyone agree that the new Solar Constellation is something that we know in Chemistry
Wait how did you get the weasel role?
Make a wish
It's rather a #general-sky-discussion question 
How do I get beta access?
make sure to read through #beta-faq ! Currently beta is closed, so you need to wait for an invite when it opens up again
Ok thank you
Are IAPs in the beta free?
We pay with unplayable bugs, bugreports, occasional IAP wipes or currency wipes 
Therefore beta is not a substitute of live at all
We pay with our souls.
hmm, i am missing blizard, would it comeback?
Dunno, I assumed it’s a phase of the event, so is the sun rising after the storm
it was really cool
👀 a message got yoinked
Yeah it was mine Idk why lol
Must’ve hit the filter, can you DM what you were trying to post?
Was the apparent fix for sending hearts to some friends part of the update the didn’t happen? or did people get that fix? I can’t find it in the updates and I’m still having the problem.
I didn't see any new updates for fixing this bug so I believe it's still there and will stay for a while
Cause it's not even in known issues
I am actually enjoying the new constellation. I think it will be a good change.
@median spoke the beta contest ain’t closed yet, it will be open until next reset i think, so you can still change (scratch it I was wrong)
Seriously?!
It ends 12pm TGC time
Though they count only one entry...
@median spoke oh wait I read wrong, it ends in 25 minutes
I thought it means 12 in the night for them
but seems it’s 12 in the noon? I’m sooo sorry, I got confused
Hello. I can't launch the beta app
It continuously crashing before the TGC logo.
What can i do ?
You can kindly report your bug in #beta-bugs-android and provide as much as details as you can on your device. Would be very helpful for devs

