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That seems to be a common guess based on what could be seen in the AP pre-order images, but we can't really say for sure since we don't know if that is actual content or just placeholders for now. We'll have to see once testing begins
so this is war 
my guess is it's first entrance will be in bird's nest and the second from the waterfall island with the last quest bell.
imo this would be one of the most suitable places
I was also thinking it would be at the bird's nest
I’m excited to see what the new area will be. And considering a while back in a Q&A, they did say that they did want to bring back the Aviary in some way. And the Season of Flight is honestly a perfect way to do that
I did…but I can’t download sky beta cuz I don’t have the link to open TestFlight and I forgot to transform my games to my new phone qwq
May I DM you instead?
I just realized that I never saw Days of Summer Lights. Did I miss it?
during the days of summer lights there was no guide,
if you dont have/remember purchasing/seeing in the shop the bunny or the summer lantern then you most likely missed it
Haha yup guess I did
dang, I temporarily quit sky just in time to miss it 🤧 and I'm kinda broke rn so I can't buy anything in live
Surprised it came and went so quietly
hopefully it'll have some of the same stuff next year because I'm sad I missed it
The Days of events were a bit bugged and some items were only available for something like two days, I think.
it's only beta afterall, you'll have the real deal in live for much longer - summer lights testing was quite sudden and gone quick
Weird
It’s explicitly written in patchnotes for build 173573 and 173655 tho, so I wouldn’t call that quiet
Summer lights was just some IAP, basically. Nothing much to test.
If this is a way to bring back aviary that would be amazing! I never got to experience it since I joined after it poofed
Aviary was a social hub with all the realm portals, plus a giant bell tower and a cave with an entrance to the tutorial level. There were also two (or was it three?) spirits there that have now been moved to Isle. I think the only thing that could transfer logically to the present game would be the clock tower.
That bell tower is huuuuuuuuge, really
Yes, it was a fun challenge to get to the top.
High like wasteland temple high?
Screenshots don’t do it justice, I didn’t realize how big it was until I saw a video of it up close
I probably have a photo somewhere.
It was like 3-4 Vault levels high 
And with those terrible, terrible flight controls, it was sure a challenge to reach the top. There were candles there too! 
The old message candles?
Go check screenshots. 🙂
No, just regular candles that gave you wax. Yes, very treacherous, like Mirian said.
Those were everywhere
There were a little bunch of red candles for wax at the top iirc, in a ever so slightly slope because of the diamond that made it a nightmare to light them up. One slip and it was a quick slide down 
You can see them in blep's screenshot. The candles of doom 




I bet y'all felt the "I see no gods up here other than me" to the max
Ooh I see, I thought you meant those since it must’ve been a feat for some to reach the top on their own
I honestly don’t see anything in Aviary that could add to present Sky.
Surprisingly, not that many message candles on the tower, no. Or were they disabled in Aviary?
Watching some old gameplay of sky wasn’t aviary just broken up into prarie?
Oh I had a completely different experience. The top always had like 5 or so candles up there for me. Almost like everyone wanted to showcase their feat like dark mentioned 
The Prairie hub had always had that familiar design, since before the Aviary existed. Aviary stole it, then returned it to Prairie once it vanished
As much as I loved it, it was a fairly small and simple area
I don’t remember that, but perhaps I just ignored them like I do the boats now. 
Prairie existed alongside Aviary, but the social area is similar to it, yes. The giant flick-to-fly hand is still there in Prairie - lol!
The closest thing we have to Aviary now is current Home. The gates are there, the "hub" feeling is kinda there, just considerably smaller to push you into the real levels 
I love looking at old sky. It’s like looking at relics from ancient civilizations. It really is something to behold with how much sky has changed
Yeah, many old concepts I don’t find will fit into current Sky, I personally think that the Aviary bell tower was repurposed for Sanctuary & redesigned it to fit in-line with Sky’s current design direction
Kinda sad we didn’t get the blue hat krill in live for the anniversary event. I guess I shoulda took more pics in beta. The yellow hats are not nearly as cool.
True
The fun part was seeing all three colors in beta; black, yellow and blue hats 
extension of DoR 
/j
It’s sad that we still haven’t got anything for trail spells. We used to have so much fun making rainbows with our color trails 
Hopefully devs will have some nice plans to bring those back 
Until they do, my remaining trail spells will just collect dust like my other limited time spells. 
So precious that they have to be saved for very special occasion
and then special occasion never comes cuz we will always think there will be occasions more special then this one at present 
eden is brutal oml i lost 5 levels while standing still next to a fully lit lantern :,)) hopefully its the game being weird and not me just being awful
That sounds about right
Did you got hit?
Eden feels a little like the AC version of daily light. I went there with 100 wings and missed 5 statues all together, while my friend with 150+ couldn't save her last one. Doesn't necessarily worth it to collect all those wings and only be able to get 1 extra candle, in my opinion.
I had the same experience. I was standing real close to lantern, hiding from the rocks but still getting hit and losing light/wings p.s.:before the constant rain part
We should get sky game in vr
But who said we get 150 wings for eden?
Isnt it cool to have an 11th charge?
In retrospect though, I do wish I did run eden with my friends every week before the update, then I would never run out of ascended candles
And never have to run eden again unless required by missions
Eden nerf is just a big oof and a slap in the face
ngl I hate eden/ac earning so much. yeah I'm part of the problem because I'll jump right in on science experiments and testing (because I am a chaotic beta tester and will do anything to break the game) and regret my life afterwards. but It's pretty upsetting that a vital currency to the game (more than half the obtainable cosmetics and emotes are locked behind wing buffs and any friendship upgrades also require ac) has a VERY low cap for how much you can earn in one trip. A trip to the flashiest and longest level in the game. a level where friends cannot drag you and you have to do the work yourself (people suggested friends drag me when I mentioned eden is difficult due to photosensitivity) and then go do MORE work afterwards to collect wing lights back to repeat the trip again next week. and even if it weren't a personal health problem, it's emotional resonance is cheapened by how frequently people have to go in to get this limited currency. my slightly more than two cents
SKYBOT NO (tell the devs to make eden less flashy not discord)
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SkyVR in Fire trials

Pov: youre blind

Actually doing the fire trials still get me worked up from how I can't see anything
fire trial in vr sounds so fun tho ... o_o
krill attack in vr
OH NO
Random spirit twist your neck in VR
Valley races in VR. 
Getting krilled in vr
Reborn in VR
Eden in VR 🤩
I concur in this sentiment. While I understand the need for a limited currency, the pressure for new players to get the 47 base wing buffs would kill the meaning of Eden. (137 AC for base constellation wing buffs is around 9 weeks of Eden if you get all Statues each week. New players would need to go twice a week for the full 15.75) Now add in photo sensitive players and players who can't dedicate the 30+ minutes extra every week and that time required will double or triple. (I say extra due to needing to do dailies and some sort of CR or socializing with friends other games they play, RL stuff like school, work, RL socializing, responsibilities, etc) Edit: forgot to add in the hour plus needed also for a WL run if they don't do it throughout the week during CRs.
I want to see the candles of doom 
Eden run duration should be decreased. Like decrease the wing strength in some area in eden for quicker Eden run
If you don't care about getting light from spirits or skykids, maybe the second run of the week, ascent can be skipped. That would make that portion at least a little more fantastical if you could only see it your first run of the week and make subsequent runs at least 7 mins quicker.
Oh, did Eden with 101 stars to simulate a new player going in. I got knocked down a lot but only missed the final 6 statues. So seems the scaling is pretty on point.
pressure for new players to get the 47 base wing buffs for eden I don't think there's prefect solution for it.
Sky is an experience I think can be easily ruined by rushing to the "end."
But to be honest stuff like the Eden changes feel like the wrong way to address that.
+1 I find it more or less very painful nowadays to get wl run... +gw with no krill glitch also means longer wl run as well..eden is nothing like before, more tiring now...
I wouldn't say it's an argument so much as people sharing how they feel about eden in general (in light of a lot of recent changed we've been beta testing). Nobody's been really rude even about their negative opinions (ye I'm the negative opinion LOL) 
I found my GW runs eventually became faster when I stopped using the krill glitches. At this point I don't need to stop very often for krill. Where using the glitch groups were stopping constantly.
That is other than getting the tree.
For those who want the numbers and video evidence, uploaded a video of the constant rock rain entering PNR with 101 WL (gifted 33 to the 1st section statues, so I have 68 WL entering constant rock rain)




I technically spend alot of time looking at the krills whenever i am in GW though. So i would notice if there is any server merges in between, previously I only used the glitch when i am burning the tree or being uber by my friends or being targeted by some rando & krill in gw. Although i do feel abit unfair that the glitch was fully removed even though the krills are wacky at times..
Made me wonder how skykids gonna handle melting the big plant at graveyard area without using any glitch and at the same time prevent losing winged light

If we can no longer use Krill tricks if we want to burn the big plant in Graveyard, then we should at least have safe hiding spots near the tree where we won't have any trouble trying to burn the tree again while the Krill isn't around
Oh I fully agree with that. I see a krill come up from underground like once a week.
And the graveyard plant is possible with two people no glitches. But they both have to be really good. Three people makes it easier, and by the time you have six you should be able to get it fairly easily no matter your skill
@spark lance lower slow mode here. Yes, you can jump.
However, the more the players... the more chances krills are going to spot players and attack randomly around.. >_> more wl will be lost unless all players are skillful to pick it up ... I have seen very pro players who can burn as fast as the krills comes back while I suffer with it for 30 mins or so with some poor players like me.. ps: I feel guilty for not helping out but i really can't make it.
Also, if you server split with friends on eden you need to tell them regroup on Home and start from the eden spawn point. If you and your friend split from like PNR, it just idk to using that another 30 minutes.
#beta-screenshots-videos message I had no issues as chibi height getting to the tunnel.
They didn't allow people TP to eden run friends even it's not PNR yet.
My real question becomes; why stress it? I mean at two or three chevron's it's worth it, but if it takes you that long you could easily CR prairie, valley, or vault. And if you have all three of those done, I wouldn't find it worth the effort and risk with all my preferred people to burn it with.
And you're fine. Wastes guides all have hero complexes. Me included 💞
I really want the jump option to return for the last part of pnr because it's already very hard to even get the statues once you're in the constant rock rain area, plus you will lose some WLs before you can even reach some of the statues because there's nowhere to hide in there
Wrong channel for my message again sorry half slept this time
I think you still can jump in the 2nd part of pnr, but it is very restricted and many times your wl just goes happy open party breaking .... 3rd part of pnr I haven't tried yet..
You can jump, but you have a higher chance of ejecting stars and getting knocked down by jumping.
I've only jumped a few times in pnr but I still managed to light more statues because my skykid was a bit faster back then
Agreed, its better players should learn more how to hide fast, and if ever they lose WLs at least be alert to get them

I wonder how it would feel if stars weren't destroyed instantly when they touch the goo
Unbalanced: The extra threat of losing stars without a chance to get them back due to dark water adds that much extra of a threat. In the end, I personally feel players cherish their stars too much. Eventually, they will go into the Eden AC cycle sooner or later. 
I don't cherish my stars too much, it's just that I don't want my stars to be destroyed by dark water (except if it's in Eden pnr) because I need them to survive longer and save more statues 
Well for me personally I like to hold the boost button while flying so I can be very precious with my stars xD
I think I cherish my stars coz I do not wanna to go find them again randomly in the realms... wl run is painful enough orz
For the big plant in wasteland: I dont care about my stars. I just find it impossible because the plant grows back before my friends can give me honk cpr
GW is barely worth it anymore. It has the lowest wax/light count of all realms with the TLP season out, now. (only Sundays puts it in close second, but all other days of the week, it is vastly lower)
Which realm has the highest wax count as of today?
Dawn if you count the trials. If you don't count them, Dawn is last place in wax/light count. Valley would be the next highest.
How about prairie if you count the gyser?
Good point, plus it includes the overall candle cakes in Sanctuary and the giant tree in that area
I feel it would be best to leave out time sensitive events like the geyser as you have to be there at the right time to get that wax. If you do add in the geyser, Prairie would be top on wax/light count. (It's already 2nd/3rd depending if you include trials in the mix)
About the WLs count in each realm, which realm had the highest amount of WLs prior to the season of Sanctuary? 
That’s so interesting i feel like gw used to have the most wax and dawn the least amount but they have flipped or I’m just terrible at counting 
GW and forest with 16 iirc. Forest now has more with the treehouse and Prairie jumped to 21 with the 8 added in sanctuary.
They really loaded that one up, didn't they 
... theory, the season symbol is just. Used everywhere in prairie bc "hehe birds.."
So almost 1/5th of the winged lights available ingame are in prairie as of today (not including ts)
Yes, it used to have the most wax... On Sundays. Other days it was a close second... Before Sanctuary came out and added a good chunk of wax to Prairie, and all the other seasonal areas that came out after bumping the wax count of other realms and the Daily Light wax added to all realms except GW and Prairie. (the cakes in vault, the cake in kabuki tunnel and the line of candles by the winged light in Forest's brook, the cake in the TS cave in Valley, and the cakes next to carry and Boogie in Dawn)
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My worries of the realm with the only threats not having the wax being worth it did come true.
During the Daily Light beta testing, I do remember suggesting (in #beta-feedback) upping the wax count in GW due to it slowly hitting last place in "highest wax count." Here we are months later and the concern became true. Now there is no risk=reward for going into GW and it saddens me slightly.
And with the krill tricks being patched, I doubt anyone will even step foot into wasteland again... 
Wasteland is actually very interesting in terms of design and landscape
GW is the only realm where you need every bit of wax to drop from 3 chevrons to 2 chevrons... If you skip Ark, you won't drop a chevron tier at all except on Sundays.
for some reason i am quite sure tgc will add more return to gw to get players to come back again ... but I see the same thing that is happening to trials to gw all over again.. deja vu.. I dun wanna farm gw honestly...
I would love the extra wax. GW is one of my favorite realms second only to Forest. The ambiance and the sounds making it feel deserted and deadly is so beautiful.
Ark is very pretty too...the entirety of Enchantment is amazing
Really wish I was there back then
Wasteland really does feel deserted now
From having the highest wax count to lowest wax to time ratio 
What do you mean by wax to time ratio? 
Long distance from one wax to another, but so little wax, even with the trees
Sanctuary has far better ratio than the whole realm of GW ;;
I'm not so sure about that, of all the forgotten ark, the only place that draws the most attention is the ark, the rest is an empty desert and there is one cave or another but I think it is not the best map
Ohh, I agree with the Sanctuary one too, and I'll rather cr vault than wasteland, vault has a lot of easy candle cakes 
anyways I'm a little concerned about that tricks to avoid krills are fixed. Krills are very interesting creatures and sometimes they spot you while turning their head 360° because they're glitchy and sometimes they hit you even if you hide. :/
It's not like I care too much about my wls but if tgc had that urge to remove the tricks, they should at least work on those things.
I never used the tricks other than those special occasions 
Them spotting you 360 Degrees isn’t a bug. They’ve been able to do that for a long time in response to players trying to “ride” them.
As for hitting you even after you hide, I’ve had it happen and it’s mainly a result of not getting hidden in time. Though the one in crab fields/shipwreck is a big buggy around that spot on the deck. The one that isn’t a shelter.
I think the only ones that do misbehave are the ones in graveyard. Other ones are pretty blind and /or have ample hiding spots or open space to evade
The lone krill in the upper swamp has been the buggiest in my experience.
tbf krills go for u without waiting if u get spotted enough
Almost every game has an element of danger to it. It creates a dynamic to the gaming experience. If every area of the game was safe, it would probably be quite boring.
Server merges are probably harder to control, because they can depend on an individual’s internet connection.
Someone pointed out earlier, wastes now has the least amount of wax. So it's not worth the danger
Thrice to be precise
Oof i forgot to remove the ping sorry
Yes as shown in the guide below.
Detailed wax count by clement
#questions-and-help message
I have always wondered.. How did they even count the wax..? 🤔 Must be a lot of time consuming work
e, I mean you can clearly see them turning their head around in a very weird way, sometimes very slowly, sometimes fast, sometimes 50%, they even stop their path in order to move that way, imo it's just a glitch. 
It's true that the chance of getting spotted by them is low but guess who's the usually the victim of it 
plus about the hiding spots. when it happens that krill still see me, I usually hide very much before their loud scream, in a time frame of 1-3 seconds.
Idk what you think about those things, but it's definitely not my problem, I mean, I do my best to avoid them.
edit: gw is a bit useless in wax count, I like to go there because it adds spice
Careful counting whilst reviewing video footage... But no, really, they count the candles and plants and know the values of each asset.
Wastes is my favorite that's so hard to see
One thing to do would be to assess rate of wax collection for each of that area. While it is heavily dependent on things like wing count, server merge and flying skills.. It would be interesting to see which areas give more wax for the least amount of travel
What are 🔁❤️ buddies?
i think you should ask in #questions-and-help
For non beta-related questions head to QnH.
To answer your question, I think it's "heart trade" buddies
wax rate isn’t and shouldn’t be what makes a realm “worthy” of your time… Golden wasteland is one of my favourite maps to explore because you notice the ruin of what must have been one of the most grand realms of them all.. so much lost potential. candle wax farming is a big aspect of the game but you can’t say it’s not worth your time anymore just because of the amount of candles it gives you. each realm provides so much more than just that..
While that may be true, but having an additional wax is what makes a realm more appealing to visit, don't you think?
Initially yeah. But after your 100s of CR through any realm... Those things don't seem important anymore. Given the constant need for candles (and ever increasing) there is more need to give weight to amount of candles than to explore. Especially with new candle system that affords a player spending less time in sky. Of course people can explore any realm if they have time without the sole purpose of candle farming. But as you spend more time in sky I think farming and social aspects take most of your time than exploring
While I understand this sentiment, I do wish more wax was in GW. I barely have 45mins to play live daily. So I have to figure out which realms would give me a good amount of wax for the time spent there. Other than Sundays, GW has to be skipped or the missing candle or two does add up over time.
True. I even skipped GW though it had the daily candle cakes(and a Sunday!) . I got to zero chevrons with just isle+trials, prairie, valley and geyser
i always figured there were good spots for extra candles in the battlefield in particular: the wax concentration there right now is along a comparatively narrow strip of the whole area, when we've got broken pipework on one side and lakes of black water on the other which could make for interesting spots to run over with some candles
518 wax compared to prairie's 701 or Valley's 761 wax makes it obvious how much you would miss doing GW over those two realms over the course of a month. You would miss out on approximately 60 or so candles if you aren't doing a full CR and only 1-3 realms.
Hello everyone
I wanted to ask all of you that whether anyone of you is experiencing the everything-is -black bug?? Its still all black for me
i actually think its quite fitting for gw to hold the least amount of candles though, its meant to be the most hostile environment of the realms. i visit gw often for the thrill of the crabs and the krill not the wax. for wax i just farm in prairie and forest 10 candles a day is enough for me. but i’ll always hop back to gw just to explore. i’ve been playing for 2 years and i used to farm every ounce of wax religiously for a long while. i think the new candle system is amazing and lessens the pressure of trying to farm everything. for those still doing that i think its time to start thinking about moving away from that practice and you know, enjoy the game more outside of candle farming, i do agree with your sentiments about the ongoing price hikes of new cosmetics though. that doesn’t help and is a little counterproductive
Same, I was so busy yesterday that I only have little time to farm, barely managed to farm Valley (including dailies) and had to skip all other realms including GW, which is my favorite realm, on a Sunday and on top of it, there's candle cakes.
It's still a known issue. If you haven't, please report it as a bug in #beta-bugs-android so they know your device model is affected also.
I have reported it in almost every built they updated..
Daily Light was advertised as a way to choose where you want to go for your candles.(quoting here: choose-your-own-adventure #beta-discussion message) I love GW but it yields so little for the amount of time to clear it. You would think choosing a dangerous path would yield more rewards, no? If the moral of the game is go to the easier maps for better rewards, that's a pretty bad example to give to players.
Equalizing the reward at least, would be the least they could do.
Add candle cakes to Forgotten Ark
Whenever I do GW, I always skip Ark, the boat is too bugged and my GF and I always server split when trying to go there. Not to mention, it takes eons to get there and go back.
Ngl, I always skip Ark unless I was planning to buy spell/s and Sleepy Traveler's Boat is nowhere to be found at Home Space.
That cursed boat to Forgotten Ark 
I honestly don't know the last time I got the two stars from Ark. I keep them there as krill insurance. 
The flight of shame if I ever grab them...
Oh, let's not forget the 518/640 figure is counting the 109 wax in Ark, so unless you take the 15 years to get to Ark, you're only getting 409/531 wax instead which is pretty pathetic for such a huge zone with 6 krill (not counting the 3 that spawn when opening the gate or the Ark krill)
Just give us the graveyard plant sized plant in the middle of Ark area and a cake.
Practice plant
Shksskosalallalsksksksks i forgot to buy the pants in beta
but then i don't like them so that's fine
Speaking of bad examples in GW... If GW is supposed to represent scary adulthood, why are they teaching us to run away and hide from the problems(krill) rather than learning to face them to advance to vault (basically learning wisdom)...
No need to 'tricks' but shouldn't there a be facing the krill challenge in battlefield if they are taking the tricks to face them away?
some problems you can't get rid of but live with it.... vault is acceptance
Also I'm sure this deserves a #notthatdeepfam warning 
Imo, there's a "perfect" area to put candle cake/s on Wasteland 1st Big Area, above the Broken Temple & near/beside the Frightened Refugee
The real question is: why hide?
If you get hit, you get hit. It's only a few stars.
Yeah I think that's the acceptance bit, get hit pull yourself up and carry on
I think this might have something to do with some chinese ancient saying. It means to go forward, you must go backwards. Probably to rethink the issue to resolve it than to rush and spoiled it?
this is real notthatdeepfam territory
Ok so strategic planning..i still think some sort of face the fear and accept you lose light comes into it...but perhaps only by Eden instead.
Ok moving on from needing anymore krill interactions in the game if the tricks are removed 
#notthatdeep
Beta chat : deep thoughts into the meaning of krills and gw
Meanwhile tgc : haha black shrimps go bonk
Well with the party hats gone they are so much less entertaining
traffic light cones i can see krills better with it.. honestly
4(?) weeks until new season comes. Now that seems sus considering that the motd in Beta is always wrong like the time before TLP season was available for testing 
Did they make the umbrella big again 
If it's not in #beta-announcements it's very unlikely. All you can do is to watch it and leave #beta-feedback
I hope they do, it was the main reason why I even wanted the umbrella 
It’s slightly larger than the itsy doll size it was a build or two ago, but it’s not back to its original size
It is between it's smallest size and original size now
Guys
my sky beta seems to have a bug. nothing I can see just a black screen. is it only mine?
Wait u guys open multiplayer doors in beta? It's so empty n i barely can't get spirits stuck behind 2 players doors- even the 8 player door barely opens 🥶
Well i still crash at sanctuary and eden
this is fine
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i’m kinda at a loss here… should i get no mask (30 hearts) or white cape (50 hearts)?
White cape, buy it if you alredy free and don’t have any spirits to buy, because later on there will be somethings that can come and you won’t have the time for them, only my opinion, you can do what you truly want!
ah ok thanks!
Still no word on when summer lights event is going live?
Edit:
Oop, that's a long while then 
Basically start of fall kskss
No official announcement yet, but I speculate it will come around September, after Days of Summer. It technically came at the start of September last year.
I agree it's still very far away from now, patience is the key 🤧
Is it correct that the umbrella is smaller? 
Didn’t buy it so I can’t do comparison
Ah I see, thank you

It was very big, it became much much smaller and now it's a tad bigger but still much smaller then it first came out 
One day, we will have an ant-sized umbrella /j
I wonder what changed that suddenly Mali gpu devices couldn't handle Sky any more
Dude my phone was overhearing, when i was playing beta, before they change the gpu to Mali. The same happens to live and I have them low, because my phone can't handle it.
Oh geez, that’s why i dont see u online anymore in beta 
i miss big umbrella 
We need more umbrellas in seasons 
What if we have a emote to avoid the dark dragon bc what else do we have to avoid it?...
besides hiding behind stuff so it loses sight of you, flying far away enough seems to cause the krill charge to do no damage to you other than knocking you forward like a wind wall -- seems like there's a time/distance limit to when the krill charge will actually knock lights out of you
I kinda liked that instruments made you invisible so I was a bit sad when they fixed the trick: in my head it was as if music calmed them down and made them feel something again despite their current situation
I wouldn't be against it if they reintroduced that trick (tweaking it) and made it a feature
Days of summer and days of summer lights are different things?
Lore-wise if you want something that hides you from Krills you would need something that covers your light (the core in your chest that is basically your heart basically), so if you're going with "emote" as a solution a sky-kid that covers their heart with both hands and crouches as if to hide it could work
Actually... Now that I think about it, how about using the sneak stance and kneeling whenever a Krills spot you? The kneel animation for the sneak stance hides the heart, and being the sneak stance a basic game emote you wouldn't need to introduce a new spirit! You would also need only to tweak the cutscene to show that kneeling actually hides you from Krills but other than that it fits pretty well
Does anyone know when the days of summer even start??
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
just because beta testers have access to content to find bugs and mistakes within it before it comes out in live, doesn't mean we have exclusive access to the dates of releases or any other information at all unless provided in game and in the beta announcements
we're just normal players helping test content for tgc for live to enjoy the content without interruptions, we're not any different to live players
My message got deleted again-
I'm not so active, because i can't handle two games doing the same thing on the same day. So.. XD
I see, hope to see ya when the new thing comes in beta then 
Sure thing!
can someone tell me what IAP will be in game this summer ?
You can check on #beta-announcements 
Bear in mind that those may or may not change once released on Live.
I have a question about the LP season items, and I'm asking here because its not in the live yet until near the end of the season.
If the LP stuff is being removed once the season concludes, won't the asteroid cape be a void purchase because the area it warps you to is LP content?
-V⚜️
Days of summer. Self explanatory. It probably on Summer or before 1 days of summer irl for preparation
The area will still be there, the starlight desert is also there after the season. TGC likely made an agreement so these items would stay which is why the asteroid cape costs money
I mean the area with the LP book characters that the asteroid cape warps to. Won't that be removed cause its LP content?
-V⚜️
You keep anything you bought or unlocked during the period, but there won't be another chance to get them again after the season ends: #beta-discussion message
I'd assume the asteroid area is considered as part of the Asteroid cape purchase as a feature (since it's not a freely-accessible area without someone who's paid for the copyrighted item), but feel free to wait for a dev to clarify whether that's the case
Overpriced LP item's that I won't get it.
Imagine that TGC make all secret area only accessable by having that cape and tp to that secret area
there are the spells too tho i think you will probably only get 2 before the season concludes
It's most likely gonna stay, if not, it would make the purchase of Asteroid Jacket useless if you can only warp to the area during the season, which I now think would not be enough considering Asteroid Jacket is time-locked after completion of ALL Seasonal Quests
yeah, i'm actually curious about whether we'd keep any unused cape spells after the season ends; probably technically easier for TGC to not have to remove the spells, but i wonder if the contractual obligations would force them to
Shh, don't give them idea for trial spell that will disappear when not used
This is already how it works?
My unused item/prop/cosmetic spells actually magically poofed, (e.g Beach Ball, etc.)
They've already done that before I believe: the 30 minute version of the ball spells seem to have vanished from everyone's inventory even if they bought it, when it was replaced with the "single time use" version of the ball
i dont think they will remove the spells since they are limited by nature and you can only obtain a finite amount of them. the only time a spell was removed that i had was the little prince pants when it became an ultimate.
No, I mean that secret area won't be exploit by using chibi fall. I recently found a exploit using chibi fall for Nintendo area.
is there bug crash happening again in map vault
i legit crash everytime i enter vault
There is no area to glitch into, you literally need to teleport directly to the area via the emote menu
Some players crash, some don't. It would be best to file a bug report for it.
That has nothing to do with the asteroid cape area though, because there is no area to glitch into
I believe they meant if the office and switch area also worked like that 😄
Maybe I don’t know how to read 
Yeah so I said that TGC will maybe implement that as a feature when there's a new secret area was released one day
Impenetrable Sret area
I doubt they work like that since office and switch are tied to an area (have entrances) meanwhile the asteroid area has no ties to any area
Yeah they don't work like that. But it's fun to wonder what might happen to those areas or future ones now that we have New Tech 
when does days of summer start in live?
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
ok ty 🙂
This is the test server, and the formal server will not be discussed.ok?
but I wouldn't think this question be appropriate to be asked in any of the formal channels? I thought this was beta related because it hasn't been told officially so i didn't know where to ask it.
@naive dock
Beta content which haven't been revealed by TGC cannot be discussed anywhere outside the beta channels, so this is the correct channel to ask this question even though we have no information about their question.
i often get notification to answer some questions, but when i tap on button noting happen. Maybe somebody had this problem? In live i never had this
Beta survey isn't connected / working.
ahh, thanks
i remember i only saw it once and it asked me just one question
did u see the dragon in home?
Had a scenario where it asked me something along the line of "Have you collected lights at Days of Bloom tree?" and that was around last day/s of Days of Rainbow Testing
dum question: but do crashes at geyser still occur?
(Ping off due to the age of the message) Our capes are pure light also. Krill would be attracted to those as well.
Is it normal that we’re supposed to buy hearts when we complete quests from previous seasons? I remember that I could just collect hearts from previous seasons in the live game. Maybe it's mentioned somewhere, but I'm just a little confused
That change happened late Prophecy to early Dreams. I don't know the exact date, but that's the time frame they changed previous season quests to require candles for the hearts. It makes doing the quests in the season a little more worth it.
I see, thanks for the answer
I have a feeling an update this week will give us a crumb of new seasonal content 🍴
I don’t have that problem at geyser last few days
Give it 10 days
Give it 20 days 
⬇️⬇️⬇️⬇️
Give it 365 days 🌚
As someone who's been testing for over a year. Dhshshshs
.. usually beta season content comes with around 20 days left with the live season. If not less. So. Give it time fjjsjs
Kinda this time it was faster the usual ngl but its 55 days left rn in live
There’s a lot else to test in the meantime, helps pass the time
nice!
or the final quests will take a really long time
even after the purchase of asteroid cape, is the area for limited time? little confused here
The asteroid area might be removed ? 
Oh dear 
Paid item....I doubt, but anything can happen-
That was never stated officially anywhere as far as I’m aware, it’s still unclear
We're not yet even halfway through the LP season in Live
Wait asteroid area is getting removed from the cape why?
Nothing has been officially stated regarding that. It's only been said so far that the Little Prince quests will be removed once the season ends. Please don't get worked up over rumors unless the info comes from TGC directly 
and the rumors continue
Ok 17 days. Final offer
what's the sanctuary bug?
What is the difference between days of summer and days of summer lights
They are 2 different events offering different props/cosmetics. Not sure about different activities since the bonfire was there for both.
Sanctuary bug is when a season ends in beta, the Thanks for participating message and the leftover gift passes all get the sanctuary logo as if it was Sanctuary ending not another season.
Hey has anybody else tried to "buy" the next season pass, but not seen the pass in the shop?
Where else can you buy pass, except IAP Shop? 
Edit: Or have I misunderstood your question, AP Pre-order is not showing up on your end?
It has not been confirmed that the area will be removed, this is how rumors start. Please don’t talk about things like this unless you’re 100% sure it’s correct
Yeah, the AP pre-order is just not there.
Ohhhh, I guess file a bug report for it. AP pre-order should be out now, and nothing is stated on #beta-known-issues either
Okie dokie, I thought it might be. Just wanted to check before submitting a bug report.
Pass is still in the shop for me. I think it has some progress requirements, completing valley (or vault) maybe to show up?
Wait, there's progress requirement/s before AP shows up on Shop? If so, I didn't know that 
Didn’t know that

Which one
The quest itself is no longer than 5/10 minutes.
Getting to the quest is the "hard" part.
Any quest that isn't live might have undergone changes after we beta tested, so the quest might be quicker or longer.
Edit: we wouldn't know in beta. Seasons are condensed for testing purposes. We tested quest 2-5 in one day, for example.
the last quest requires u to go somewhere dangerous and long ... that why i wasn't able to give u a timing but roughly one quest takes u 5-10 mins... probably up till 6th quest... 7th (last) quest is very very long............. i was the one to ask the person to come here > ignis...it was sorta a beta question since the person wanna know how long it takes to finish all quests at one go I think.
The season will last 77 days in live
If that's what ur asking
You can find the exact number of days left in message of the day.
Also this is a beta testing channel I feel like folks from #questions-and-help might be able to help u better if ur question isn't related to beta matters
I think the command (omgomgwhen) or pinned message, applies here since no one really knows 
if you are checking with the release of quests from start to end, like what ignis said.. it would be within the season of 76 days.. we have no idea when will the next upcoming quest come unless we click on the quest link to see the countdown
But that was the beta testing of it, like what Uzephi mentioned "season was condensed for testing purposes"
As mentioned in #beta-faq, seasons in Beta are shortened for testing purposes
It took me 2 - 3 days to rush everything through. Everyone is different, so please take note to finish quest is subjected to each one's ability
But likes stiles & uzephi said, season was condensed for testing purposes". So it might take longer than that in live
We don't know when the quests will come out, but if you start the quests after they all release in live, you could finish them in one day if you set aside the time to do them.
That's what I plan to do on Live, finish all seasonal quests in one-go once they're all out.
Hi..^^
when summer event
I see,I didn't knew this,but I saw people talking about it earlier
Sorry
Breathes We don't know, maybe around August and before Summer lights. Wait for an official announcement in #news ✨
ight
One question, does anyone know when the "days of summer" event will start?
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
You know its about to be ghost town in beta when there are only memes in screenshots channel

Quite good ones tho
I swear if I see another "when summer event" I will 
People are just excited 
when winter event
Season of sanctuary 2 when tell me bruh
Hello guys i'm not a beta player, do you guys know when days of summer will come to live 🧍♂️
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
Lmao
Yes, do you know when it will come 🧍♂️
Nobody knows, skybot already said the answer 
Oh, i really want the bird cape 🥺
Are you talking about the new season that may come in about 30 days? If so than, it might just be a placeholder or not, you'll have to wait-
Live players should be patient for summer event tho. We don't know the release of it 👀
Maybe or Probably on summer 
Sjskssk i was just joking 
Last year summer event was in September the "Summer lights event" I hope it will come on august tho 😩
The earlier the better. Please I need my live sky kid to have that beach hat 
I am still confused on how summer is considered anything else beside June 1st - August 31......
Summer in the southern hemisphere 
I hope it's later. Helps our candle wallet the later it comes out. Think about the sword pants when the 7th quest comes out to live... 
last quest wont come so soon i think...
It doesn't get under 100° F here until mid October. I can't fathom summer ending in August.
Thanks to boogie kid i can now save upto 200 candles 😌 watch the next ts being 200 candles and leaving me at zero again 
How to get office cape in Beta?
Someone got to take u inside
Having a friend take you into office and getting it from the IAP menu.
Ouch. Just like in Live version
Since IAPs aren't linked to a store, it's pretty easy finding someone with the founder's cape in beta, though... Some of us still have the TGC pin spell, also.
I heard there is a black cape tier 2 anyone care to show it to me please?
You can search the screenshot channel for it.
Search from:Uzephi#1337 in:#beta-screenshots-videos has:image (or has:video) 90% of my videos and images from April to now would have Black T2
I don't know if anyone have noticed it yet, but we can edit our boat message now 
Or I probably didn't notice it until now
Edit: Don't quote me on this, maybe I can edit it since my message was apparently "against" COC 
The boat has changed too. It's Coolio now
Ok but how did the first player in Beta get the founder cape? 
Events like the anniversary that let you in without the cape
Oohh. I see 
And players with beta cape could bring others into office to get founders cape i assume.
progress wipe didn't remove the beta cape?
The first players who entered the office were the ones who got the beta cape.
Uzephi, no, the beta cape was a gift after iOS release and therefor also after the progress wipe.
The office was originally an Easter Egg for beta testers, but Founder's cape was made available inside it so that people who weren't part of the original beta testing period could also visit.
Also, we got the beta cape in both games, which was why it was important to connect your Live game to the same GC as your beta account.
When Office was added, did it come with Founder's Pack available for purchase, right away or it only became available due to player's feedback?
I think it was there right away, since it was a thing that happened after iOS release. I am a little fuzzy on whether it was first introduced in an update in beta, which was then pushed to Live. But yeah, the point of it was for us beta testers to bring our friends there who didn't have the cape.
Asteroid cape... the true exclusive secret area cape...
Lol, yeah. It definitely will be. Especially since nobody can get the cape later on either. 👀
Uzephi, I wore my beta cape for the anniversary week. Did you not notice…? 😉
I did not.
I found a way on controller to light and send hearts to friends without them even appearing, cutting down lighting my friend constellation a lot quicker.
Yeah, on Switch I just go A-Y-B in quick succession. That would be x-square-o on PS4 controller.
I noticed your skykid wore a "blue almost teal" cape on the entire Sky Anniversary.
I just thought it was Teal Cape, but it was Beta Cape?
Yes, it was beta cape. 🙂
Btw, time line: progress wipe happened maybe a month before iOS release to test out new currency system. Beta cape was a gift after release, and we never knew we were getting one. They just told us to make sure to connect both accounts to GC. I don’t remember if we also got some candles.
Hello, is the beta group full or do I need a special invite to join?
Thank yall!
Invite wave just ended recently.
To join beta in the future, read #beta-faq and react to the roles to get notified in the FUTURE for invites & updates.
... man. I'm still wondering who they're going to replace the prince with for the spirit memories...
Maybe with the spirit child in the hands on hip spirit memories
Too short
Well, the obvious answer is 
Probably the prince will never appear? What happens now in season area? Given the season is over in beta...
the community says rallying thrillseeker lmao
Maybe they'll replace Prince with Sky's Prince-
Nah, unlikely to happen. Might just replace it with a random skid (Then again, Sky's Prince is a bit like a skid, sooo...)
I was assuming initially that is how the LP season will turn out to be... Lore heavy with sky prince (story weaved with LLP story) and how the prince came, made a big impact on sky and ascended in eden or something like that
I thought the prince would land in Isle (like in the memory of the come here spirit) then show how ancestors of sky were related to him, trials and possibly making 6 elders part of story...
The little prince should probably be replaced by a spirit version of him to show that he was here, this is just a theory though 
Will his blue spirit haunt eden forever? 👻
Whenever he slips my mind I’m once again reminded of him
Kinda sad to know for those new players, not gonna be able to see/experience the same as those who played while the Season of Little Prince is active (if ever be change or remove and be totally different kid)

Grown-ups love numbers... When you tell them you've made a new friend they never ask you any questions about essential matters. They never say to you ”What does their honk sound like? What games do they love best? Do they play with butterflies?” Instead they demand ”How old are they? How tall are they? How many candles do they make?” Only from these numbers do they think they have learned anything about them
A little sad but that’s the nature of collaboration events, maybe there will be more in the future 
Ironically how many people said they hate season of Little Prince and decided to skip this season 
Update: Seems like I was wrong 
an Edit prompt was available on my previous boat since my message was apparently "against" COC.
The spirit cutscenes all have a typical spirits worth of animation that doesn't have the prince. It wouldn't surprise me if they could just cut him and the dialogue portions out when the season ends.
Everyone, is the new season's cosmetic as we seen in the spoiler has anything with the travelers' clothes in Nintendo's trailer? I rewatched it again today and noticed some parts 
Hopefully 🤞
Don't trust anything, ktjn said teaser art will be changed
I see. Lets keep waiting then

i had a ping here...AND I THOUGHT IT WAS BETA UPDATES COME ON 
I think it just remove the prince or alter the cutscene with "real prince". I also hope that in future season there's a dialogue, NPC or even credits. That's the real season that we wanted
why would they remove the prince from the cutsences anyways?
Because of copyright™️
fact: kai still didn't get it...OH wait you mean because of the writer of the story or 
Wait no kai got it 
it's basically the same reason the quests need to be removed when the season ends: the contract doesn't allow for characters from LPP to be used after the season
If the lines are word for word, that's copyrighted also. It is a book after all. Fair use is too grey to chance it. It also would ruin future relationships if IP holder kindly requests it to be removed and they don't.
I thought they removed the whole quest like before season of Enchantment the quest giver will be removed
what did the season guides before enchantment actually do, aside from giving daily quests and offering the ults? did they actually have seasonal quests with cutscenes tied to them?
I found the link they mentioned it will be removed completely #news message
@sullen relic Sadly no quest, but they release seasonal spirit 1 by 1 and not all at once
Reading it now. It's not quite word for word with the translation I'm reading now but it's close enough that I could easily believe it being a different translation.
No. Just daily quests. But we used to have a special ending cut scene when clicking the completion flag in the constellation.
Gratitude & Lightseekers had basic cutscenes, around Belonging they began introducing unique cutscenes
You mean the ending ones? I vividly remember the Winter/Rhythm spirits flying off on their boat. And then also the dinner table for Belonging. The others not so much.
Yes, ending cutscenes, Gratitude & Lightseekers’ endings were just like the beginning cutscenes, only they were saying farewell
Then it sounds like the Belonging one is the one where we've lost the most story/lore for players who didn't see the season, since it adds some context to what the dinner table in the Sunny Forest was actually used for (the Rhythm cutscene looked neat, but that's an OOB area if I'm not mistaken). I'm not really liking the LPP quests being removed after the season for that same reason, since a lot of context for the Starlight Desert becomes permanently lost/unviewable for players who weren't around for the season outside of looking it up on Youtube. It's just like "there's an actual explanation for this place existing, but you'll never be able to experience it"
Yes the Rhythm ending cutscene took place in that same coliseum, but Rhythm was one of the older seasons & didn’t add much lore nor did it have much story going for it
But I don’t find the Starlight Desert all that important in the context of the season. It mostly houses the spirits.
The Winter cut scene was actually only visible from your own private space in old beta.
how can i buy white candle in beta guy?
Candle packs aren't available in beta
Read #beta-faq
You can’t. You have to candle run just like the rest of us. Also, please read #beta-faq
You can’t, only way to earn candles in beta is through normal CR (going through realms collecting wax) or save up seasonal candles during seasonal testing for conversion
I saw a video of it, it looked so pretty with that lighting from the private Home space 👀 & the Director wasn’t missing like in the global version 
Where's #null btw🤔, pls tell me
I ate it 
You can't see #beta-faq channel?? 
Yea i don't see it 😀
Just click the link in our messages. Should work.
Is your discord updated? You have the invites and ping role, you should be able to see it. Try restarting discord.
Its not working, that why i asking you guy😀🔫
Please don’t use symbols of violence in your message.
May I DM you instead?
Nvm, I haven't updated discord yet, i see it now
Cool, cheers
How do I download Beta
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Does anyone know if the disappearance of the Rose in the Asteroids area has something to do with copyright? I reported it 2 times, have seen other reports as well and it is still not fixed. The planet name as well named B61- instead of B-612. Thanks for your input.
There's no info about that yet iirc. I was wondering as well
So when the items on your back dispear is a glitch? I mean it feels like a good glitch and it feels more real tbh 
Any updates of beta?????😭😭😭😭😭😭👊
None as of today
New season starts in 26 days😱😭 thats definitely too long waiting 🥺
Never trust the motd in Beta as it is bugged and can show the incorrect days remaining for a new season 
tbf, the little prince only just started in live. feels like itd be too soon to test a new season already
there was a time the motd wasnt even changing for like a week 
Yes it could be 26 days... 3 days or 38474729 days. Who knows 
I have question
I join sky beta today and he returned me moth🥲
Any one know why?
Beta and live are two separate apps. You can't transfer any live progress to beta, so you will come to beta as a moth. Please see #beta-faq 
I have account in sky bata when the company send links
So you're re-joining beta? If you used the same email as you did before you left, you should have the progress there iirc
Yes I used same email but my account not returned 
In beta you're bound to lose things, whether it's currency or a whole account since it's only for testing purposes, so not sure what you can do. Someone else might have answer
Thanks you for help

Today? I didn’t know they released a wave today
Not today
I join in the last wave!
Random cloud tunnel: exists
Skids: IS THIS THE NEW SEASON ENTRANCE?
Not even a tunnel, a small dent
how do u make a dent in clouds
It's.. definitely insignificant. But we should allow people to be excited. 😌
...how do you make a dent in the clouds.... KTJN? 
she krilled someone too hard in the clouds and it left a mark
Please. New beta testers would like to get their paws on the new season
And same. Honestly. Just. Leave em be. Speculation without saying "this is fact" is harmless.
...And we can't exactly speculate outside of the beta channels without a public announcement .
Some short guesses might be okay I think, but regardless we don't have beta lore, it should be testing related. 
I fear some users might use "speculation is ok" as an excuse for semi-gen chat whereas Ktjn called our attention not to do so to avoid exorbitant slow modes. 💚
This is, absolutely a testing channel, no doubt. But.. I don't like the mocking of people who are excited. It feels a little poor in taste.
I think it’s hilarious
Tbh. Like. There are some extremes with this? Yeah. .. that is just a dent. But... you know. I would have gotten excited over such a trivial difference when I was younger dhsjs... overanalysis can be fun.
Just.. not when you're being ridiculed. ^^"
I. Think they should just be left alone. Idk.
I don't want people feeling hurt or alienated.
Which dent? What happened 
Nothing, I’m misusing words
There's no need to make fun of fellow server members - the first rule of this server is to be kind and respectful to others, and there are no exceptions to that
There's funny dents in the bird's nest clouds which look kinda new. But.. it might just be a rendering issues or retopologizing, who knows lmao
If people want to make a singular comment on it and don't string it into long conversations, They should be left alone.
That's just my opinion.
Me waiting for the season

I.. get a little defensive over people's emotions. I just don't want them to feel hurt. If you get what I mean? Being invalidated can be extremely disheartening .
I also think it could be a bug, since it's weird that they made that changes before adding the area, since normally the entrances are blocked by some sort of barrier, and not just some clouds
It's probably a rendering problem. Tbh. Yeah.
Tho this season has been weird. It's the first time that we get to see the teaser in-game before they release the poster on their social media, like dreams, or prophecy, or the rest
Anyway too much speculation for something there's almost no info about it, rather than an official art
TGC mixing things up to keep moths engaged and/or guessing
Waiting for new builds so that I can hope no crash for android... ✌✌✌🤞🤞🤞🙏🙏🙏
probably trying to beat out those players from leaks before they set the teaser in live channels BAHAH
cant leak if its appeared in beta already
Season of Darkness
Your account probably in the one of Progress Wipe out before
Literal Season of Darkness to some Android folks 
Its the season of crashes to me 
The only progress wipe that happened was before iOS release in 2019. If you’ve connected your account previously, you should be able to rejoin with the same credentials.
ik in beta, things are liable to change, but have you guys heard a date for when days of summer might be coming to live?
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
- Wait for next monday
- If nothing happens wait another week
3.??? - Repeat above steps
I returned my account thanks you 
I absolutely agree with you. Just for the context. The joke I made was a self burn cuz I would (and kind of already did) the exact same thing. In other words, im joking about the situation that we have the bare minimum information.
Also just a side note for everyone that even if you are reminding rules you should stay respectful to everyone. This IS the beta testing chat but it's not like there are any active conversations going on that speculative messages will disrupt. Reminding rules is appreciated, but don't try to make it look like the person committed a crime.
#notthatdeep
I'm not trying to make it look like somebody committed a crime, I just want don't want people feeling upset or alienated. that's all. I only suggested it might make people uncomfortable, and that it's a little in poor taste, not that I think somebody deserved punishment.
The second part wasn't addressed to you 
I 100% agree with you and support your message
Aaaa,, sorry,, I can get a little defensive,,, sdkfjsdf,, thanks for clarifying,,,
And on this note let's please conclude this conversation. If anyone wishes to talk - my dms are open 
Meanwhile. Have y'all found a new glitch to hide from the krills yet?
The most boring season for me is enchantment cuz no pants
i mean.. gratitude and lightseekers didnt have pants either, nor assembly
but tbh, ench did kinda seem boring until the last few quests, spell shop n stuff 
- hide
anyone at geyser and it's being buggy?
Pretending to fall/dead (jump+emote) can no longer be used to trick the krill, I thought it was a feature 
Assembly had pants...
.... Or did they? 
Their pants were the first ever seasonal pants with regular colouring/texturing.
So they can easily be mistaken for constellational pants
but season of enchantment was the first season with new area and seasonal quests 
wait they did
my memory is slowly going to waste on sky
assembly has pants yes
Gratitude and Lightseekers:
(dissappear)
I am new here, I would like to ask when is the opening of downloads
Did someone even do that?
As said, read #beta-faq but it's very unlikely to happen in the nearby future because we just had an invite wave
Belonging pants:
Am i joke to you?!
.... Belonging pants? The boogie pants? If yes they have texturing and colouring. They aren't plain beige as constellational pants
And assembly pants has boots
Oh it’s so sad. So will the quota be open until next season¿
We don't know. It depends on how many active players will be left for the needs of TGC. Please note beta is not early access, it's meant for testing and bug hunt purposes which of many possibilities can be found in live version.
my beta isnt updateing
We haven't had an update since last week. What's your app build number?
I'm still wondering which side of Eden got patched in the last builds
Things about closing gaps on Eden areas
last week in eden was quite normal, just when lost a light in lava storm, lost bunch of stars ffaster than usually
Bored. No one in beta. Updoot plz. 😭
Play the live game while you wait 
is there a release date for days of summer?
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
Not yet, it will likely be announced in #news whenever there's an update or in the patch notes
hellooo can you still carry props and instruments when you wear the asteroid cape? 👁️👁️
Yes you can, there will be separate buttons in the emote menu for the cape's function and the prop you're wearing
bye i completely forgot i had assembly's pants in live and that the overall pants existed. this rlly shows how quick my memory fades
@woeful glacier replying to #beta-screenshots-videos to not clog the channel 
What do you mean by reminiscent of the tutorial area cave?
Ah I'm sorry (• `•;,, I don't usually post but thought it would be interesting, sorry
Oh I meant the beginning area cave where we'd get our wing before going into aviary in old beta ^^;
You haven't done anything wrong, I'm just curious 

The prairie caves area isn't the same area you'd get your wings and head to Aviary in pre-launch Sky though. But I've never noticed until now how similar they are (particularly in that second screenshot)! Coincidence? 
Is it similar enough to say they could have reused the meshes and just adjusted the NURBS numbers?
Hmmm no, the terrain is completely different. But the shallow water leading to grass and outside light coming from above just has a similar vibe 😄
The post-Isle tutorial one had a bunch of high steps to teach you how to use your cape, and a very similar if not the same rock formation we have now from Isle-Prarie transition. I'll see if I have a good picture of it 
Honestly every season brings back something in some way
It's nice to see old concepts being reworked. Or maybe it's just our brains trying to find a connection 
hi beta gang 
You've got something for us in this new Beta season. I can't wait to help you all squash possible bugs that may happen in Live 
I think it's our brains trying to make a connection.
You know how to type the jokes when Beta chat is dead, Uzephi 
I am not a developer though, I am simply a mirian with a party hat
But I'm all for bug squashing! 🐛
I mean, the game is all about making connections, no? Friends, hidden stuff with no real connection, but similar enough to something to make connections.
squash
them
bugs 

I would, but I don't have gerrit access. 
I'm gonna regret posting that, aren't I
You won't regret it, Ktjn. Mirian is ready to squash those bugs before they hit Live 
Bugs gonna go squash! 
that reminds me, I've got some more bug reports to go fill out...
imma edit a hammer on those emojis hold on 
Oh, reminding me of odd stuff. Anyone else just losing one star when playing with krill? got hit 4 times above 140 WL and each hit was only one star lost. In live and before 14.5, that high of wing count would make us lose 3-5 stars. Edit: must have been extreme luck, next two krill ejected 5 stars each from me... Luckily I got all but two back. 
sips juice
I can’t wait for the next Beta update and see if the new season start in a month or no 👀
Greeting Beta Testers (Ping), we have a new patch of beta memes ready 
please venture forth to the #beta-screenshots-videos to consume them 
Bugs in Beta are everywhere 
Children of le bugs
You could just give sky kids blow torches to fix everything 
I'm really excited to see how the new season will go once it hits Beta
. Btw, nice to meet you all 
A blow torch would be a nice prop for darkness ridden places like GW. 
Petition to have a blowtorch prop?.... Arson EVERYWHERE
I've got a bad feeling about this 
with flammenwerfer
2 player plant? Not anymore with arson!
cosmetics reveal when 😔
Once the new season is out in Beta
#WAFO 
our life will be better then
yes I am signing that
Please heed the words in #beta-faq. Beta is not "An early-access version, alternative, or substitute for the Live version of the game" Please wait for the official announcements for any kind of preview of cosmetics.
Not to mention the testing of new season hasnt event started and the timer on MOTD is unreliable in beta 
it'll happen when it happens
Will it be long before the beta is available for download on android?
it'll be up to tgc when they'll decide to open beta once again
they'll ping ping in #beta-signup-info if there are slots open!
AFAIK, it depends if a tester manually left the Testing Program which in turn opens up a slot open to download. Sometimes folks who signed up on invite waves may have to wait hour/s, day/s, week/s and even month/s to be able to download Sky Beta on Google Play Store
A ok I understood
should i report bug, I am hearing LPP music despite being in orbit but i have finished up to 7th quest.. is this normal? loved the music thou
If you already finished 7th quest then probably its a bug
You aren't the only one
So yeah please report
I already report them through their website
My beta sky isn’t updating
Please make sure you have at least 3Gb of free space on your device and make sure you're signed into the correct Apple ID or Google Play gmail.
Plus, if you’re using iOS, download will start and stop if you’re using your data, try to connect by wifi.
It’s like forever stuck on the, I’ll post it in #beta-screenshots-videos
What happens when you follow the "tap to update"? Does it let you install in Testflight/Play Store?
It doesn’t work like I tap and nothing happens
Have you opened Testflight or the Play Store and manually updated that way?
Hi I wonder if music instruments bug is fix yet in beta version?
It've been 2weeks now since I can't play music in sky 🙁🙁🙁
Which one? There's like 20. 
By instrument bug, you mean that bug where you can accidentally tap a friend, conversation, etc. even if you have tapped the instrument key?
Close the sky app and open TestFlight. Then update.
how
Dm? It’ll be easier to explain without the slowmode.
If you're on iOS beta, your Sky app is in Testflight. Testflight is a separate app, so just open it and tap update there.
I wonder if they removed Testflight...
Is it able to be uninstalled?
prolly. omg i did
it works
If you did, try reinstalling it and see what happens
Just redownload Testflight, then. Make sure you're logged into the same AppleID/Game Center as before.
Where updoot 🗿

Summer event might be the longest waiting beta testing before it comes to live
my future grandson will join the event on behalf of me
🤪
guys how to get the rabbit
Its at shop, but its not available now 
okay ,did i missed it?or just not available yet
The event already ended 
ok,thank you!
squishy wabbit
A single white ball with a set of rabbit ears and dot eyes manages to be the cutest thing 
And it just
Sits there
Tgc just grant our wish for a pet bunny 🐰
It would be a perfect post in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived 🐇

还能下载吗👀
We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @steady plover. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.
You can't now
read #beta-faq 
Why can't I find the beta invites channel when I click on it or look for it ?
I got it
I noticed that the said channel is locked. You should get the invites role from #beta-faq and you'll get access to it.
Hello. I am new to beta. Can i ask why i didn't see any event in home area?
If you're referring to Summer Event, it's because it already concluded days ago
How do I apply for access to the experience server
Beta is currently closed. Read through #beta-faq to prepare for a future invite wave
Thank you for your answer
Why can i download beta even tho i didn't click the invites?
Android? Yeah, some Android users can install Sky Beta directly from Google Play Store regardless if they did and/or didn't sign up for an invite. That's only possible if a tester manually left the Testing Program which in turn opened up a slot.
That's how some Android testers, here, got in on Sky Beta.
I see thx for the explanation
No problem. You got lucky 
And that's exactly how I got into Beta 
Lucky
waiting for countdown to be -1 ...
pokes #beta-announcements with a stick do something
barks and goes back to sleep
When do beta invite waves usually hit?
And will it be posted here, I ask this cuz I’ve already set a role to receive ping when invite wave hits, but I have no idea how the invitations would look like. So if anyone can be so kind to answer.
its up to the devs when they wanna do it, we have no idea when now that its changed
and they’ll be posted in #beta-signup-info , there’ll be a ping to the invites role and a link for ios and android will be there with guides on if you cant get in too
note that if you’re on ios, install testflight beforehand while ya have fun on live since we never know when an invite comes and it could be a while til it does 
Usually, if the #beta-signup-info is in "bold white" font color (if you're on Dark Mode and/or True Dark Mode (AMOLED) in Discord) or "bold black" font color (if you're on Light Mode in Discord) indicates that there was a message posted on that specific channel, which could possibly be an Invite Wave message posted by a Dev.
Cheers. All very helpful. I noticed that the invite group only appears after I set my role as an express of interest. Now I can see the group. Thank you both. Looks like I just missed the July 15’s wave.
Goodluck on getting in on next invite 
By the way testers, I heard someone said in beta, the accessory on players back would disappear when you place it on the floor, is that true? Really want that cuz after putting the fox on the ground, the backpack is still on my back, really weird.
Yes, I think so.
Tho personally speaking, I think it was an intended feature and it looks promising & more realistic.
Some are saying it was a bug or something but I'm not sure if it is or not.
ye, its not in live yet iirc thats why
best is to wait for the update/patch on such info until it becomes official.
Lanterns and umbrellas are removed from the back when using, other accessories should do the same
I know it’s not finalized, but I’m so excited to know that TGC even notice/acknowledged the “issue” . I’m really looking forward to the official release of this feature.
I've actually seen a message or two, regarding that on #wishlist-and-ideas-archived (probably months ago) posted by some members. 
Lol, I feel like I’m so far away from the devs, that they don’t read that many of our messages.
Feedback channels would be the best way to let Devs hear your thoughts, likes and dislikes about contents and/or features.
It could be #live-feedback & #beta-feedback
Got ya. Thanks for the tips. Have fun testing. I have no choice but to wait.
imagine...if 3 or 4 pants in next season that would be rhythm season but diffrent
|| now read the first word
||
ktjn tends to come in here often to cause or calm chaos 
When did Ktjn cause chaos? 
try here -- she started a summoning circle trend that she then had to quell herself 
#beta-discussion message
I don't see the chaos but LOL 
I had a dream about the new season, I don’t remember much but- the color palette of the season was teal, gold, black & white. The new area was an island smaller than Sanctuary 
we got fire prophets summon circle...wheres juggler and dismiss?
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
Ded chat
Ded chat is much better than active chat yet longer slowmode
I see you, @gilded linden, you should probably sleep, brah 
SUMMON THE PANTS GOD Spirit
AMEN
Wait, it's krilltjn
A question for the betas. I play on my android phone and I can only seem to play for 3 minutes or less before the game crashes. Is anyone having this issue?
Android has a lot of issues for beta, but keeping crashing after 3 minutes of playtime over and over would maybe mean that your device has not enough compatibility
I see there’s others in the #beta-bugs-android with the same issue. It’s just making it impossible to progress. My device can run the normal live game as well as other, more cpu taxing games, just fine
Check #beta-known-issues , there seems to be an issue with a specific Android GPU.
so while in beta ive had strangers offer me hug/etc, how does that happen exactly
Could be, you know... Hax
Or was there ever a STAR Pin that has that feature? 
I don't think there is such a pin. Unfortunately. But you know the drill. 😉
and so do I
somebody else just warped to me but i didn't friend them, should i report them
At this point , I think it would be safe to just report strangers, who does Friendship Tree-exclusive Expressions to you. Besides, they carefully check those players we report before doing drastic measures.
Carry is a pin spell. I don't think there is any other relationship pin spell that would work with strangers. If I see a newish beta player, I usually would help them by pulling out my crab pin and offer them to hop on the Uzephi bug express
there was a warp spell too (Earth Day Friendship pin), but i forget if that only worked with friends
STAR Pins that have such feature should only work with friends, right?
I'm not really sure since I don't own one.
i also had someone (who had an appearance of a stranger) offer double high-five to me, but it turned out that it was just a friend. I just couldn't see their name or the upgraded friendship tree (probably due to lag?), but that was a few builds ago><
i can't actually say either since i've never needed to use them when i've already unlocked all the actions i want with my friends 
Healer crab pins work on any player (piggyback/carry).
They do :0 that's very nifty
I've checked the current pins. They all say friends. Including the earthday one.
Except for the healer one what Uzephi said.
Actually it does say friend on the website. We need clarity on the pins.
the skyshop tutorial/demonstration videos don't really explain a whole lot either, since both the Healer Crab and Earth Day Friendship pins were demonstrated on two friended accounts (i.e. they don't definitely confirm that they can't be used on strangers)
Even the warp pin spell says "to your friend", not to any random stranger. I think that if you feel it's fishy, just report it.
#beta-screenshots-videos message video of it in action
Ngl, if a random player (with no upgraded friendship tree) offered me Carry/Piggyback, I would freak out, log off and log back in at a later time 
I think there's a pin and a spell for that. One of my friends offered me piggy out of blue and i was like "
"James (not their name), are you a hacker?"
👁️👄👁️
when does days of summer event start? And then when does the new event start? Is days of summer in between all this?
we dont know when anything in live will be happening
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
is beta invite channel hidden?
It's inactive/hidden yes because invites are closed now
It’s hidden mostly because you haven’t got the beta invite role. And there’s no invite waves for the time being either. Please carefully read #beta-faq and get yourself the invite ping
why r little prince's quests and sword pants still there? dont they go away with the season?
Yes they are supposed to go away once the season is over, however this is beta and sometimes things happen differently or weird stuff goes on. It could be a bug or it could be that TGC is still trying to iron out some things for the live version or something.
I think I've seen some people here say that trying to purchase the sword pants now causes the game to crash, although I can't test it myself because I already had them before
Beta being beta, nothing new

Saved for sword pants, crashed and died without them 🥲
yeah same i actually dont know how much it costs bcos of the iap at first sisbwkbskshe
tenks for the answer! (slowmode
)
The sword pants should be 200 regular candles, same as they will be in live. But yeah since the season is over now in beta, it seems like they are not purchasable here even though they still show up
Anyone know what the next season is called yet? I like it’s icon
We only have some theories but there is no official name yet
#beta-announcements now come on now
light up
Don’t be shy

I'm guilty of checking that channel a little too often 
Watch there be a new update today and all it will say is
🔷 Bug fixes and improvements
Hey um anyone know when will the seventh seasonal quest come?
The season's ended in beta
Imagine that instead of fixing bugs in the next update, more bugs are added and Beta suddenly crashes for everyone in a random area 
Does anyone guess the new areas for next season? 
Imagine TGC update the UI that display detailed errors for android experts to see what happen
nothing is known yet, i think it's gonna be in prairie (birds' nest/sanctuary) tho 
Before the preorder come, I though the next season will be on wasteland or valley 
i wish it was a wasteland season too
maybe next time 
or maybe it can be this season, after all so far it's just a placeholder. we should just wait and see 
Is it odd that the summer event hasn’t come to live? Maybe they aren’t going ahead with it?
There are still another two months of summer in the northern hemisphere, so I wouldn't say it's weird
One month in US if you go by holidays that is
? Fall starts in September
Fall doesn't officially start until September 22, and not all events line up with holidays
Yeah I get that, but the spirit of summer is really June July and august. Just seems a little late in the season is all.
Regardless, I wouldn’t worry too much about it. If it’s coming, it’ll come, if it doesn’t there’s not much to do about it.

They didn't really announce the anniversary event until a few days before it started. I wouldn't say having no news is news in itself, you know? Some events get announced farther in advance than others
what if sky has fighting quest.. I would live it 
Nobody on the road
Nobody on the beach
I feel it in the air
The summer's out of reach
😂
i think they are focusing on fixing bugs atm
@timid bough Agree. 3 platforms to fix things in.
Players waiting for 0.15.0 be like: 🧍
Me waiting for the next beta update: 
Me waiting for tgc to fix black screen bug: 
prairie maybe
Eden. 
We already had a seasonal quest in Eden, why not make the QG there this season?
some testing with the asteroid jacket: I bring my friend there and then I return home, friend still there.
- when I try to join friend: “your friend is in middle of a challenge” 😂
- friend goes home and uses return shrine => get back to the asteroid area without needing the cape.
I have feeling that Days of summer can start in the middle/second half of August and in September will start Days of summer light 🤔
Well, it's the same as if you were brought to office or NS area. You get teleported back to the latest area when using the return shrine.
Imagine if ktjn says Next season is now available and then sky beta will say Server error!
guys sorry.. is anyone ever try to ask TGC about dedicated button for daily quest?
What do you mean by a dedicated button?
I mean I have to forge beeping candles before I can tap top left screen to see the daily quest list.. and no button for daily quest
i've sent feedback about that a long time ago, and i've seen some things in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived about a separate button for looking at daily quests without hitting the candle shop or forging candles first. but it's ultimately up to tgc if they think that a change would fit
also hi beta, i haven't been active in a few days 
If you use a controller you just click the left arrow button to see the list. But yeah, with just screen input you have to forge candles first.
oh thank you 
@slim kayak there is actually a separate button if u use controller or switch
its not just forging. when you're collecting candles, the candle icon stays active for a few seconds, and having to wait it out while on a candle run is a bit tedious.
this is more for mobile, since not everyone can play with a controller. it's nice that there is a dedicated button though. hopefully tgc can translate that to mobile ui at some point
I hope so 
what if sky has fighting quest.. I would live it :pWeep:
@gloomy stream i dont think so, this game is not a RPG or MMORPG
Maybe PlayFight with Friends will do
playfight is honestly more than enough. have you seen level 2? its aggressive 
playfight is honestly more than enough. have you seen level 2? its aggressive
@slim kayak i have open it with my in game parents and two other friends
We play "Who hit first" before and it is cute because when you click the button at same time, it will looks like we try to counter our friends hits
Much like Cats fight or Kitten Fight XD
I’ve been meaning to ask this because I don’t have a lot of friends in beta to test it out but if I’m in the asteroid cape area can friends warp to me?
No, it will say “your friend is in middle of a challenge”
So there’s no way I can take someone who doesn’t have the cape with me
you can hold their hand and bring them with you.
Hmm, about the seperate button to look at quests....
Apparently switch let's you do it with a certain button :0c
Refer to lower message :
No, on any controller you click the left arrow button.
Ohh, I didn't know :0c
Hii. In my game everything is in black, who knows what I can do?
According to #beta-known-issues this is an issue for some players. Please bug report it, so the devs can find a solution.
There are countless combinations of devices and os systems therefore it's essential to report bugs so devs can pinpoint what are exactly triggering crashes and bugs.
Someone help
What seems to be the problem?
Someone in iOS beta told me that they were an Android user and basically I'm in the wrong server so I checked my thing for test flight and mine is for iOS but arnt the Android and iOS people put together or are the separate because I'm pretty sure it's two different links 🤷🏾♀️
Woah, there is cross-play between Android & iOS beta, they’re not separate servers
Android and iOS testers play in the same Sky beta servers. They are not separate. Only switch beta was separate
There is one beta for all
Edit: that person got it wrong probably.
Right that's what I thought the person was confusing 🤦🏽♀️ they said that I crossed servers or something not sure but thx
Could be a misunderstanding of how beta works or words lost through translation
Maybe I've only found one person so far that spoke English and now she is one of my friends on my live account
That is usual beta don't worry. You will find very less number of English speaking people and a large number of Chinese speaking people. Nothing to worry.
You see how with the asteroid cape you can hold your friends hands to teleport to the secret area does that same premise work in general? If I’m in a realm with friends holding their hands and i am leading, when i go home will it take my friends home too? Sorry if it’s a silly question.
The home button still should work as a separate thing and doesn't teleport your friends. The cape's prop function is different therefore it acts differently.
Since there's no da Tuesday update
noice
Hello,
Do you know when the summer day event is coming?
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
Does Tgc already announced a date for days of summer ?🤔🤔
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
i heard there was a capeless cosmetic in beta, is that true? like one you can actually purchase?
Yes with 999 hearts after the vault elder hair 
is there any talk at all for brining it to sky? or is it something they made probably only for beta? (if you know that is)
It’s been in beta for a long time but there’s currently no plan to bring it to live
Comments from ktjn:
Tgc did say they had seasons planned for years, so I think the aviary - season of flight is a true connection. I wonder if we’ll get aviary back 
Maybe, but I personally think if that were to ever happen, it won’t be a 1:1 replica of the Light Awaits version
they could make it similar enough 
I hope they have season of darkness lined up I want a season for krills and crabs too.
Many players are very sensitive and therefore chose this non-violent game therefore a krill season in future is quite unlikely. But we had a krill this season at least
Actually, they can do Season of Darkness by having 3 light(good) and 3 dark(bad) spirits and oc of having light to fight dark as seasonal quests
Although it was violence but not violent enough that still fantasy violence and if that doesn't work make it to like Season of Light and Darkness like fight for the light (6 spirits soldier inspired from wasteland soldiers) and fight for the krills on wasteland.
I was referring to a crab/krill season only.
However, your idea would be a great post in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
If for referring crab and krill season only, this will destroy the purpose Sky it was. Sky was postive and Season of Darkness is negative. Hmmm
eden season when?
jk lol
when is days of summer coming
!omgomgwhen
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
lmao
@sick pendant
Well technically you could skip above the structure from the middle, it’s the spirit barrier that stopped us. Although I dislike entrances that make no sense story-wise (such as Dreams & LP) Sanctuary & Ark still have a satisfying feeling to travel to
I love the boat to Ark... I just wish they gave us another option to get there after completing the quests... The eons it takes in the boat... 
I hate the ark boat- such a pain 
The Sanctuary Intro Sound gives the Satisfaction. Both from OG and the now days OST. Sanctuary intro sound was changed during Days of Nature and was never change back. Strange. But I still stick with current after days of nature OST because the TGC music composer are legend of making music.
Hi just wanna ask how do I download beta on android?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Ok but where do I learn the sign up process?
YES.... THIS...
don't forget about the assembly tunnels
You learn about the sign up process in #beta-faq
Omg I love your name Ignis🏳️🌈
I think I mostly hate is Assembly tunnel because it's too dark and you will mostly hit a wall when going to the treehouse
Not to mention they're like super long and complicated tunnel system
kids digging kilometres of tunnels
They have using magic from the Forest Elder
I honestly would be fine with the tunnels if when entering we entered a new area like caves and tunnels and mines and we have to travel through them to reach the other treehouse.
Rn it feels like all the forest revolves around that specific tree
WAIT
THAT TREE DO BE SEEMING SPECIAL WITH A SKID INSIDE OF IT AND BEING QUITE BIG
migrates to lore chat
Facts
I would like a darkness themed season that details the fall of the kingdom... someday..
It's always funny to me to see something that used to be severely disliked by the pre-launch beta community (like the old Prairie hub shared in #beta-screenshots-videos) receive praise and be wished for nowadays. The grass is greener on the other side 
Why was it?
It was a drag. You'd enter Prairie in that area, and choose where to go (butterfly fields, caves, nest or villages) but they weren't connected with each other. Wanna do a candle run? I hope you like backtracking and sitting through the long portal activating cutscene each time! 
Awesome
Eventually the area was removed and the layout we have now with butterfly fields in the middle made the flow of the game much better imo. So while understandable, it tickles me to see others that didn't get to experience it be filled with wonder from a pretty screenshot 
I think light awaits was fun because things were always changing and there was always something to explore. Just like now we have excitement for a new season.
Except isle of dawn, it was perfect #bring_back_green_isle
That’s true, actual gameplay is often overlooked from the pretty graphics, watching the flick controls in older videos was a little painful 🙈
Flat fingertips for pretty graphics, i don't see a problem here 
That's true! I'm very grateful for the chance to have participated in the beta because it was a lot of fun. Kind of like the current beta experience here, but with a little more intense changes as they figured stuff out. I think in general there will always be things we personally liked more than the current version but it's kinda crazy to see how the world evolved to a better experience to everyone overall
have there been no new updates?
why is the cooldown so long??
Updates happen when TGC have them ready for testing. Cooldown happens when there haven't been any updates to talk about!
that's actually smart and makes sense ||(not me wanting to send a message to see how long cooldown is)||
We don't want it's functionality.
We(I) desparately crave an areal expansion that looks cool and engaging
and makes sense geographically
What about it looks cool and engaging? Sure it's pretty, but it's so small and empty. Unless it was part of a bigger, more exciting cloudy area. That would be fun 
I just finished watching the video and that was just an island smaller than prairie social space of today.
At best it can be the season's entrance to a much complicated and bigger area with similar floating islands and maybe interconnected tunnels.
Kind of like birds nest but tier 2.
I personally crave for a bridge.
Imagine a cute narrow wood bridge connecting two big islands
Question, when did the season of Sanctuary started testing in beta?
It’s just for theory or the game
Searching for sanctuary in: beta-updates can probably tell you the exact date 
Don't know, to me it looks like 'Let's go! Let's jump head first into an adventure!!' and that fits Sky in my opinion... I think what makes it look like that are the half bridges on all of the sides... Though you're right that it is not too interesting as an area to stay at itself.
I think it could be really cool if it didn't lead to essentially just loading areas. Sky has come a long way since that time (I mean just look at the size of Sanctuary
), so it would be pretty awesome to have a hub connected to larger fun areas
Cough cough treehouse
The treehouse is currently my favorite area in Sky. There is a lot to do there, even if it's not your particular flavor of tea
It's over concentrated for me personally.
Way too many redundant things in a way too small area
That's what creates the coziest feeling for me, honestly. Like overly decorating a small home, with a bunch of things you like
It doesn't appeal for everyone so varied new areas are refreshing to see
Is the roses inside cloak secret area suppose to be missing?Aight Thankssss , ima edit this message to bypass the cool-down lmao
No need to spoiler tag things here
And I think it's unknown if it's a bug or intended to be missing. I hope it's a bug because I'd be sad to see the rose go away 
Late response, but it just hit me: those big open pre-launch areas have a similar sort of appeal as the Valley Coliseum OOB -- it just looks super scenic and it isn't something we can readily access in normal gameplay right now, so I just naturally want to find a way there and wander around. It's really down to those two combined factors if there wasn't anything else to do in that area -- if it was easily accessible, then there's a decent chance I'd feel the same way about them as Battlefield or Forgotten Ark (very large maps where I'd ignore 90% of them because there's nothing to do or collect across most of them).
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
I’m pretty sure ark will remain a popular area if the mushies were still there 
It would be a popular area if it had a practice plant with the same wax value as the one in graveyard with crabs around it...
I hope we get shared spaces where the space itself affords play. Like having a personal ice rink with platforms and ramps, to place hoops and other items. And an igloo to decorate. A simple open space next to a social area or some random open space will not make people swarm to that area for having fun
A variety of different activities sure will make it more appealing, beach ball is a great idea to start with, and maybe the garden area in starlit desert can be used to encourage players to play hide and seek between them too
(more fun maybe when you aren’t able to fly during hide and seek
Imagine a big maze or a garden and you are capeless like trials.. To play hide and seek, may be a small tree house to decorate in a corner
time to make that abandoned ping pong table into a shared spaces toy
TGC : gives ping-pong table to play
Skykids: tries to use ping-pong table to shield from krill, use as a means of transport or finds weird glitches using it.
TGC :

We can already play ping pong krill 😆
Adding to this, my friend was just telling me how most of his friends just slowly stopped playing Sky. Exploring a new area is fun, but players will soon get bored if it’s too readily accessible as you said. We need something challenging to stimulate the interest. That’s why we find oobing so fun: trying to figure out a way to go to places that’s hard to reach is fun, trying to get to the mushies that’s in the air or underground is fun, trying to look for the hidden spots for mini games was challenging. But being forced to wait for another 3 players to activate a quest is not challenging or fun by any means, it was just frustrating for me
Let's not forget that during those scavenger hunts, you couldn't deep call to see the objects you need to grab, either...
And you could get some last-minute server splits too
(I don’t really mind not having a radar for the objects, but the waiting was not very pleasant for me)
Yeah, that was annoying. I had a server split when we needed one more item from the 3 player quest and it failed the quest. 
So if we could get some new activities for the new season, or more activities to do in the game in general, that’s less restricted but more challenging, it would be really nice 
it wouldn't really be a scavenger hunt if you know exactly where each piece is.
The objects followed a pattern that was easily noticeable, that part was not difficult IMO. I agree with everything else
Oh, not exact location, but a general idea would be nice. I've seen players in Brooke mainly go all over the place trying to find the stuff in the trees. Or the 3 player one in boneyard and them check all over the place, even in cry's or deep bow's area.
Personally I enjoyed looking for those hidden pieces, when you finally find the hard one it’s kinda satisfying
i like those activities, but server splits killed. I did 4 players quest 4 times, cause it splits 1 person every time 😩 waiting and honking is really not that fun
2 hours of Silence 
Why is the vein channel not invitations?
beta invites are currently closed, grab the invite role from #beta-faq to be pinged and notified when invites come out
Or thanks for the information
🎵 Hello darkness, my old friend... I've come to talk with you again... 🎵
that's some interesting translation
How's Beta Everyone?

Dead
I've experienced a strange abundance of moths....
I honestly thought there was another beta wave, and I just didn't hear abt it 
@quartz sleet Days of Summer and Days of Summer Lights are different events. Days of Summer has only been tested in Beta and it never came to Live yet, while Days of Summer Lights happened last year
There is no active event currently in beta. Testing for the events ended, so we just have to wait for the events to be announced.
how can i get the beta cape?
I mean it only came to beta, not on live
#beta-faq message You can't. Edit: It might be best to reword then. Saying "it's still in beta" implies it's still in testing in beta. "It has only been tested in beta" would be better verbiage. Someone might see that message and be misled into thinking they can still get the items from that event. 
what about founders cape?
Founder's cape would be in the same place as live. It would show up once you are inside the office as an IAP. IAPs in beta aren't attached to a store, so it wouldn't cost anything.
no one knows when events will start, either beta or live. TGC doesn't really give a solid timeline for when beta things go to live, and its more of when it's ready ™️
I always call it Days of Summer Lights as well. And yes, they might assume it's a new event that it isn't announced yet at #news which I (presumably) believe still stays in Beta content
I do heavily recommend taking a step back from the screen and away from the chat if it's becoming difficult to keep it respectful and give people the benefit of the doubt. I'll be asking people to stop responding to previous conversations that are pretty clearly edging toward passive aggressive behavior towards each other. It's not going to help yelling at other players here.
I've asked the subject to be dropped since it is causing quite a few people to be on edge and aggressive. I would welcome you to discuss other topics 
It’s obviously “ready”
It’s about when they’re trying to release it to maximize profits with the timing of their other IAP. Plus a consistent pacing for consumers to expect.
The builds with the events have some phones crashing the game. It isn't ready.
Guys question, with the prince cape that tp u to the planets, do the Rose will be there?
Grown-ups love numbers... When you tell them you've made a new friend they never ask you any questions about essential matters. They never say to you ”What does their honk sound like? What games do they love best? Do they play with butterflies?” Instead they demand ”How old are they? How tall are they? How many candles do they make?” Only from these numbers do they think they have learned anything about them
please keep in mind everyone is excited, and it's fine to show some of that but please don't get passive aggressive towards others about it
I couldn't find it so I don't think so 
But I'm not sure I'm kinda blind sometimes 
It's not summer yet. Please be patient. And this bulid currently unstable to certain GPUs
Calculating the needed amount of sneep snorp for @chrome ivy... 
I explored the zone because idk if I will buy it on live version but the Rose isn’t there and that’s why I’m asking😅 Have someone seen the Rose on the planets before?
I think there's a lot up to creative decisions, and when TGC feels content is ready, so no one here really knows if it's ready yet. There's design for items and programming to keep things stable to worry about and I have no idea what stage they are at. I do feel like there's a lot of factors to worry about and having seeen a bit about designing and programming, I realize that making these take time and end up going 10x longer than you think they will. so I can't really see it as maximizing profits.
Anyway, I didn't even existed days of summer because of Iaps, but get used to it. Even you don't pay it still Sky.
My beta kid can't pay taxes with his 9 candles.
My beta kid is now homeless
Yes, I have pics sitting with Rose, watching the Sunset
Ohh aight so maybe I’ll buy it now, I wasn’t really sure
Woah I searched for a good hour and I couldn't find the planet 
edit: I really am blind sksksk
I'm only able to go by what was done in original Beta, I can't guarantee that Rose will return to B-612
Take the plane, once it gets past all of the grown up, and starts to zig zag through the stages of Prince's planet, jump off of the plane, and explore.
Hi all, I'd like to share my beta daily:
- Open screen recorder and start recording
- Open beta
- Went wasteland social space
- Crash
- Report and wait next build
If you reported it once for a specific build you don't need to report it again, until it happens in a new build.
what if tgc adds a secret call sound thats just https://youtu.be/Q_9VMaX61nI
i agree
I thought doing group quests in live was hard, in beta it's even worse. This 4 player assembly quest is driving me nuts lmao, servers are emptier since there are less players 
I can help with that if you send me a qr but its also worth to ask if anyone's available in #beta-looking-for-group 
HAHAHAHAHAH
PLSS AGAHAHHHA
Don't know if I'm late to the party or not but... It appears the Samsung Galaxy S7 and S7 edge are losing support with the current beta... I think it has something to do with Vulkan as all of the graphics appear as black except for the UI.
Several players has that issue, as far as i remember not just Samsungs and mostly those who have android 8? Luckily i dont have this problem but i hope that those with 'blind mode' will be able to play again normally soon.
Based on my testing I do believe it has something to do with either Android 8 or the version of Vulkan phones of this era are locked too. Either way it is a very small selection of devices as it only really applies to old flagships such as the S7. My S20 and even the LG Stylo 6 render normally.
该更新测试服了我的臭宝
We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @last fiber. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.
It appears that in the near future I may have to upgrade my phone in order to keep playing sky
I know I shouldn't have bought a Samsung and waited for the oneplus nord ce
It’s unbelievable. I can open Google Games and Google Store, but I can’t open the beta, Show connection failure.Do you have this kind of problem?
What do you mean exactly when you say you can't open beta? You can't find it on google store or its already downloaded but doesn't start/crash etc.?
Beta doesn't start.Show connection failure.
Oh the only time i get that when i have no or very weak wifi signal. Maybe the latter is the problem in your case too?
The wifi signal is full. If you do not have this problem, then it is my problem. I will check it again. Thanks.
Try restarting your device or reinstalling the app once, I have encountered this problem too, in my case, I cleared some storage and then restarted by device and it worked.
I found some nfc reader on amazon
Can I scan thatskyshop pins with iPad if I get a nfc reader?
I searched thatskyshop website but no one mentioned about nfc reader
Try to ask on #questions-and-help for faster response/s. also it's not really beta-related 😄
I got a dream about next season...and in the dream i thought the season is out..But when i wake up i realized its a dream

At least we know its coming 
We still got 23 days left to test man. 
I'm sure that this has been said before but I haven't been on discord for a while and I had a brainwave so I came here.
what if they add a piece of aviary for season of flight, for example that big broken tower? 
The Rose was there. I have pictures of it. I reported it 2 times, have seen other reports as well and it is still not fixed. The planet name as well named B61- instead of B-612. But I'm wondering if it have something with copyright since the Little Prince will disappear after the Season is over. 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah I want to know if it will disappear because that’s the only thing that making me purchase the cape @vapid briar sorry for the ping but you have answers?
Because ik that the prince is one of the main things and it can disappear, and the Rose as well, but we still having the real character inspired by the spirits so idk for me doesn’t make sense🤯
For me
1.Place a teaset
2.Try to grab the tea
3.Can’t grab
4.report and wait for next patch
I'm just confused by that new place, since the Little Prince and the Rose is copyright material and disapear, why do we get the "Rose" prop? And why the other characters stay there? Arent't they copyright as well? 🤔
Yeah that’s why… if it’s copyright the Rose of the planets of the new place I will pass for the cape, cuz as I said that’s the only thing that’s making me purchase the cape
Because that will be the only thing to “relieve the season”
I totally asked the same question from your previous post, sorry 🤦🏻♀️ 🤣(I got confused lol)
Can you buy candles for free on beta 
Candle packs aren't available in beta shop
IAPs with Candles is the only way to get IAP white candles
NOO IM NOT ACTIVE in normal sky and i dont do candle runs
wait i can buy them with candles how much are they?
No, IAPs that include candles, such as the Founder’s cape, are available in beta. Please don’t play beta as a replacement for the Live game.
You can’t buy White Candle Packs inside beta because there’s no such pack within beta.
However,there’s a few pack that contain white candles(founder cape pack)
If u really running out of candles,u should just do cr/wait for next season to end
I am so confused im not in beta though yet ill just wait till i am so i can understand when i got to shop thank you though
Please read #beta-faq to familiarise yourself with how everything works in beta.
Its fine ill be okay with it
It’s important to read the faq before joining, if that’s your plan. 🙂
Hello, how can you become a beta tester?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Can we have an update this week
LMFO I WENT OFF SKY SND CAME BACK AND SLID INTO VAULT
Seems hard :"(
Quick question: what does asteroid cape look like
Nvm
Do you guys know why there hasn’t been a beta update in awhile? They usually have some kind of update every few days so makes me wonder if I’m not seeing new updates or something
An update will be released when it's ready to be tested.
Edit: If your Sky Beta build number is the same as what's currently shown on #beta-announcements, you are most likely on the updated version.
WHATWHAT 
Hopefully the next coming update will tackle the frequent crashes & black screen to some extent
At least this channel is not lit on fire
True !
that can be arranged

The next season will have ||
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||#where_season||
THATS TOO MUCH
Can anyone tell me if tgc fixed the piano button issue on beta 😭 like it's so hard to press
They made some improvements, it’s pretty better now imo, the keys take priority over chat/friends etc (it’s me again lol)
So now will the new season be available next week or is the week apart thing only for live?
!omgomgwhenbeta For the next season, there has not been a release date announced.
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Beta
Any Beta announcements will be made in #beta-announcements!
Hi. maybe someone will tell me. Today I logged out of the appstore account, and after that the list of applications in the TestFlight is empty. Will i be able to receive beta updates? Or is it the end of my beta testing career? 😅
To test beta, you need a beta access slot which is tied to your apple or google account, so unless you sign in with the same account you got the slot to, you can't test the game. Thus, the way I understood things, once you relogin to your account, you should be able to continue testing. Be aware that apple beta testers' slots get removed when they are "not active enough", the detailed specifications for this were not explained though. If you want to completely change your account, you unfortunately will have to wait for another invite wave.
Invites only happen when TGC needs more testers. You can sign up to be notified when they happen in #beta-faq though, as well as read very important information regarding testing
We’ve gotten a lot of updates here in beta, like the blue hats for the krill and all the fixes for the broken Eden that seem like they normally would have been sent to live ASAP. But we haven’t gotten a live update since switch launch. Has switch gummed up the works on live updates? And cause beta doesn’t have switch version we in beta keep plugging along. I know Ktjn said the approval was longer but I wonder if this is the new normal? What happens if we get a big bug in Live?
And unfortunately you'll probably be waiting months. I'd suggest to just enjoy the Live, beta is extremely buggy and often unplayable
because of the way console certification works, yes this is closer to the new normal than anything during the period of time that sky was mobile-only.
patch updates will be fewer and further between with more content in them.
the second that we patch mobile, it breaks matchmaking and crossplay with switch, so to ensure that feature is intact, mobile releases will slow down.
every release candidate is not pushed to beta, we do have an internal qa team that handles that testing.
Interesting… so sometime beta fixes (like the hats) just won’t make it to live. And we’ll just have to deal with windy eden till the next big update.
even if switch weren't a consideration, the hat fix is not a big enough issue to require a hotfix.
but it's still a bug that needs fixing in the grand scheme.
Gotta be a bit tougher for y’all now, to make sure things are VERY stable in these big releases
Why was the hats changed from yellow to blue?
Was it so it just matched the first anniversary hat?
the hats weren't supposed to be yellow, those items are tgc blue.
correct, but it doesn't mean bugs won't make it to live from time to time, but it does mean we have to live with them in the Live version for longer.
Ohhh gotcha, makes sense! Pretty bloo hats for the krills in the trenchcoat
I've noticed a lot of hackers in beta within the past 20 minutes. I'm not sure if its the same person or different people. As soon as I try to light their candle, they leave the game.
There's lots, yeah...
It's an unfortunate aspect of beta. The best way for you, as players, to tackle them is report if you can (and it's totally okay if you can't!) and move on. What they want the most is attention—don't give it to them.
I also met one yesterday..
A Chinese hacker requested to hold my hand and carry me I was on his back but we weren't even friends ;-;
I also got a screenshot from it
Wow! That's strange... I've tried to take screenshots/videos of the ones I've seen, but they usually take off before I can catch it :(
(Edit: I just found an old video I took of a beta hacker)
Since I was on his back for a long time so I was able to take one before he leaves

Offering carry to a non-friend is a Star Pin "feature." I think it may be a bug, but keep in mind, it isn't hacking and a legitimate item can cause that reaction. 
Edit: here is a video of me using the test spell of that pin. #beta-screenshots-videos message
Beta testers don't know when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
Wow interesting I've never knew about this
Is there a spell for holding hands too?
A warp pin. Don't know if it works on strangers, but it is supposed to temporarily unlock warp with all friends for 10-15mins
Warp works in a way if friend's hands are full, you take the hand of the closest friend of them.
The beret was yellow?? I thought it was red when bugged
they meant the krill's hat
Ktjn - I just want to say thank you for keeping us in the loop and explaining the processes to us. It’s amazing. Thank you so much for all you do.
@vapid briar
I am kind of sad that in the grand scheme of things, in order to ensure everyonr benefits, mobile releases are slower than others
But we have to accept 😭 just so long that crashes dont happen in Live as I experienced in Beta
All for the good
And God bless devs 🙏
Not slower than others. Updates would release at the same time for all platforms. They are just going to take a little longer to release due to how consoles have an internal review period. Gone are the days where a game could accidentally break root of trust or brick a console, like a few games did in the DS and earlier eras.
my only concern is that these bugs may put off new players, unless they're hotfixed, which doesn't appear to be often. it feels like the game just isn't ready for a console release yet, but what do I know
why was the return button in the home menu taken away? the return shrine doesn’t take you back to the exact spot like the home button does :((
a game will always have bugs of some sort.
we globally released with more issues than switch.
player perception of acceptable vs dev and platform certification will never be comparable. which is okay. we fix what we can, and wait to fix more with the next patch.
Welp, iirc, it was a bug, wasn't it? So, it'll get patched eventually.
there are lots of resources online if you are interested in more depth about why buggy games ship
i get that part. but the return shrine is so annoying and slow. and it doesn’t take you back to exactly where you were, so it wastes so much time

it would actually be great if there could be a dev report every now and then regarding the game state, unless there already is one and I'm not aware
I'm referring to more in depth analysis on the state of the game, ideas behind future additions and how they could be implemented, etc etc
it's not really feasible to do that. the second we imply something is being considered it is interpreted by players as a promise/guarantee.
by the time we fix something, it will be shipped, we cannot really give an ETA of when something will be resolved until it's ready to be fixed.
true, doubled edged sword
honestly there is not going to be an answer i can give you that will satisfy you, but i understand what you're asking for.
nah don't worry lol, developing a game is hard, nevermind satisfying the player, i understand :), you do what you can and that is greatly appreciated
IMO. Devs give too much info. Stop greasing squeaking wheels until you are ready to ride. 😜haha .. everyone stop squeaking 🥸 Devs are going through keyboards faster then you are devices. Haha
"We're gonna try to fix the piggyback bug" Players interpretation "It will get fixed in 2 days." Reality: fixing it breaks 20 other things.
@carmine thorn exactly. Not many understand that!
if only they understood what the backend of a game looks like lol
When ktjn said game code is just 43 raccoons in trench coats with 74 rolls of duct tape trying to keep it together she really meant it. If you ever studied programming you know it.
racoons of various kinds of breeds(classes) lmao
Right. I've only dealt with HAL coding. A kernel compiled is 18Mb; the source code is around 3Gb... I'd hate to see how big a 1.4Gb game's source code is...
Devs are going through keyboards faster than you are devices.
As an IBM Lexmark Wheelwriter 3500 Electric Typewriter 60k Storage (Reconditioned) I confirm keyboards are faster.
I only studied coding for a year and completely gave up when I reached php.
P. S. Ktjn have u seen your portraits in the beta screenshots yet? 
all that code and a single typo can wreck it all, its fun eh
;
Iykyk
Imagine accidentally adding an extra 0 in the charging current .c file and blowing your Dev device's charging port. 
Didn't fire prophet dissappear due to a typo in the code?
I wonder what they misspelled
"faya_prophet"
fier_prophet
Will the rose stays after the season ends? In secret place