#beta-discussion
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Same, me and my BF have been waiting for it's mask for so long 
I knew about this part of the drama. I’m perfectly fine with IAPs. My only beef is IAPs being layered with candles to make them more expensive. It’s ridiculous. Like the Flower packs. There was no reason that those needed to cost $20.
IE: I don’t buy candle packs because I don’t need candles so I don’t want to spend on something I don’t want.
Yeah I don't like how candles are forced but it's not a new thing anyways..
Ktjn said the candles have no effect on the prices, and the flower packs were 20 dollars to maximize on charity donations
The thing mostly bothering me tho is the amount of iaps over such little time, is kinda of ALOT, and together with the candle savings for other things, kinda pressured to buy a few candles feelings, ooooof
It’s from the official TestFlight 
It's a simple solution to a simple problem: you don't need everything. I skipped on the lantern and looks like I have a chance to get it again this year. 
Ktjn can say whatever she wants. My point is a Flower wasn’t worth $20 in my eyes so I wasn’t going to buy it. The candles for sure were worth it, but I didn’t need them. So I wasn’t spending $20 on a Flower. That’s all.
Issue crops up now where the Umbrella and Lantern should also cost about $10-$15 but they come with candles to seemingly fluff up the package. I will probably buy those tho considering the item itself actually has usage value.
Well the flower wasn't the thing that was important, the flower was a small gift for those who were willing to give money for the Charity 🌺
But if candles have no impact on the price that means that without the candles the umbrella and lantern would not be anything else than 19.99.
The pressure adds up now hearing that some IAPs will probably stop coming back. Making some of us feel the pressure to buy it all now.
I suggest you to report as a bug.
I’m not arguing over the flower. The point stands whether you agree or not. I don’t honestly care. It’s fine if you disagree. I know why they cost that much. I still don’t agree. The $5 Earth Day cape was $5 for charity too.
the value of charitable donations is not in their utility to the people donating
I don’t understand what they’re supposed to be reporting. There are no surveys in beta.
In the end, they're just pixel item that doesn't really give you an advantage.
If you can't get them, skip 'em.
If you can but don't want to, skip.
If you can and want to, go ahead. It's your money, your choice, your expenses.
I’m going to buy umbrella. That wasn’t part of the point at all.
Well my boyfriend and I were talking about this too, and TGC had a small community back then, now with a bigger community they can ask for more for their Charities~ but I don't disagree with you either lol a lot of things they give sometimes are "overpriced" 😅
There are for some users and nothing happens when you click the checkmark after clicking the "!"
the idea of "overpriced" is pretty loaded. Each of us will decide how much we can pay for things we want, but we can't decide how much it costs a company to do business
Beta testers are not Tgc staff, therefore they don't know
That’s because they don’t work for beta. There is nothing to do a survey about in beta. But I suppose they can bug report that they pop up.
Goodbye my only chance to yellow umbrella, not that im complaining

I know they are not. ;0
Everything should be considered a luxury as that’s what it is. No one really has the right to argue something’s value as that is truly determined by whether or not people buy it in the long run. I’ve bought close to everything so far and the most valuable one to me personally were the antlers. They are well worth my money. I wear them every day. I just wish I didn’t have to feel like I’m spending an extra $5 on candles I don’t want when I buy an umbrella that should cost $15 but oh well.
I think they add the candles to IAPs just to make them seem more valuable and justified, i don’t think it affects the price. But the way you feel is valid. I think TGC just wants to price them 20 dollars and make it more marketable by adding candles
That's why I liked my bug hunting cap (rainbow beanie). No candles included. The beanie was straightforward on how much it was worth in USD without candles fudging the numbers.
they should've not changed the umbrella as an in-shop item in the first place tbh
It was always an IAP. 
It was always an IAP...
But it wasn't an IGC in the first place
Oops
It feels less marketable to us who play every single day to add things we don’t want/need to the pack, but overall we seem to be the minority with how many people we see crying that 200 candles for a previous IAP that you have 11 weeks to save for is too much.
Or that 70 Candles is expensive for a TS item when 2 weeks of easy work is well over 200 candles if you actually play each day for only 1 hour.
someone said it costed candles before
It never costed candles, so they were giving false information.
You'll probably want to read the latest note in #beta-announcements to hear the situation from ktjn herself: #beta-announcements message
ok ty
It's only between player's speculations that the Null Item costing 20 hearts was Umbrella but it is not
Here's another reminder of the value of the flower item: #news message
I don't know what their donation goals were, but TGC raised almost $800,000 in that one charity event
I also play everyday, and i think that IAPs should be cheaper. I just think candles aren’t the reason they aren’t cheaper 
I never said they were. I said it makes some of us feel that way. The items feel like they should cost around $10-$15 and it FEELS like they add candles to make it a tiny bit more expensive.
IE most IAPs seem to be $15 which I’m generally fine with. I don’t much complain about a $15 Cape.
I understand! Thank you for clarifying. Is it better as 20 dollars with no candles? I feel like they just really want to make the IAPs 20 dollars and that’s what we should be giving feedback on
I still crash upon stepping foot in eden, sanctuary, ⅔ of forest and village, 
Is the summer lantern not available yet?
Maybe? I definitely feel the Umbrella is at least worth $20 on it own. Heck, I bought the bloom tea set for $20 too. It generally seems to be the item in the pack with candles that is the issue, rainbow charity would have been fine if it were the cape in that $20 pack instead of a flower, but that’s my opinion. I’d have bought it if it felt like the item was worth the price tag.
No, iirc, ktjn did say something about the pack having not changed since last year so it seems like it’s coming back. Just hasn’t yet.
wait, so to clarify based on your last two statements: is your stance that you're fine with the concept of the umbrella being priced as $20, but having the candles bundled with it alters your impression such that it feels like you're paying extra for candles you don't need (and therefore creating the perception that the umbrella is only worth part of that $20)?
!! If you think the price is justified, maybe thinking of it as a bonus gift for the support would be helpful! I think the flower was priced like that and also kept as the donation cosmetic to keep a tradition of last year’s medical donation (sorry i forgot the name) event. I think they should’ve done better with the colors of it and maybe add the cape as a pack like the Lunar New Year pack, while keeping it available for f2p users, since the rainbow cape is a huge thing everyone that this event was intended for. It’d be a bit sad if people couldn’t use it to dress themselves because they don’t have money but still affected by the issues donations are trying to change!
Please read #beta-announcements 
I just used examples of packs that have extra candles. Sadly those are limited. I don’t feel like lantern is worth the $20 but umbrella I do because it’s large and also has in game effects that can benefit tiny moths. It’s hard to explain. I don’t like packs being fluffed with items that make it seem like it makes the pack worth more to seemingly justify a larger price tag. Lantern is a decent example.
I only use flower as an example of another item I wouldn’t generally pay a huge price for. A cape is $15 and I’ve never complained about those.
HELP FOR ANDROID PLAYER EDEN
A friend of my is stuck and she can’t fly up, what to do? She tried to go home and do the Eden glitch, but the fly / jump button doesn’t appear at the “dark room” when you hugged that kiddo and you need to fly up..
I did! Just totally missed that last paragraph 😂
One current workaround involves your friend bringing a chat prop with them into the dark room, or else a chat table spell -- use that to get some elevation so she can "hop" off a higher point and get carried by the light
Okay awesome thank you! (Cuz I can’t help her she is alone there haha)
tell her to sit in a seat first, then stand back up -- that's how she gets on top of the prop without the jump button
Okay! Thank you so much!
you aren't paying 20$ for the flower no more than you pay money for a sticker with a charity's name on it. the goal is to raise money for a good cause. of course some people care more about cosmetics than charity so for them, the cost of the outfit item is worth the price. it's completely valid to feel that the product is not worth the price if the charity has no meaning or impact for you when it comes to making purchase decisions. in cases like that, if the value of what you receive not worth the pricetag, the logical decision would be to abstain from making a purchase.
when it comes to prop prices, they're fairly standardized at $20, the candles are just to make the pack be more attractive. removing the candles from the bundle would not reduce the price of the item for sale.
I see beta is still on the iap discussion.
On another note, when you have all of the season finished (all spirits 100% and the sword pants purchased), does the (?) on the constellation give a "You've completed the season" message like in assembly?
I remember being very confused with assembly that it wasn't 100% complete because I didn't decide to get the quest items/props from the guide even with full completed spirits and ultimate gifts.
Ehhhhhh I consider a season complete if I have everything on the constellation of that season
Sadly I haven't managed to complete the season on Beta, I should get around to that some time.
Update is available on beta? I'm able to update in playstore now
Yes it is
Thank you!
there's a bit of false equivalence when it comes to the very first charity endeavor we attempted, where we offered the green cape for $5, you can look up how much was raised for one tree planted in 2020 vs the ocean cleanup in 2021. we saw more folks picked up the 20$ candle pack for days of healing than days of nature (adjusted for duration the packs were available to buy) regardless of personal taste, candles have universal value within the game's economy, so candle packs with the equivalent of a free tote bag as a token of appreciation are consistently more successful fundraising events than subjectively attractive outfit items.
My friend said she flashed back while doing the last season mission
Does anyone have the same experience?
i don't expect everyone to have a strong economic or statistical background when it comes to IAPs, but i think most folks can understand the concept of correlation does not equal causation, which i see a lot of folks toss around disparate comparisons when trying to explain the way we have monetization structured for sky.
Aaaaa she still can’t reach it 😩😩😩
So she is stuck in Eden at that dark room after hugging kiddo and fly up areaaaa
it also impossible for any one individual to speak on behalf of anyone but themselves or maybe a few close friends (with permission) let alone an entire community. you don't need to falsely inflate the weight of your opinion by phrasing things this way. speak from your own perspective, it's better to say "i feel x about y" than "most players like/hate z" because unless you're messaging millions of people simultaneously to collect feedback (in which case, teach me your secrets to doing so!) it muddies what the core issue really is.
Oof, stuck in Eden. I heard some people couldn't fly up due to jump bug. 
Hi hi, I'm not in beta but was hoping someone from beta would be willing to show me what the asteriod jacket from this season will look like! I'm not sure if I want to buy anything for this season from the shop and want to know what the jacket will look like so I can decide if I want to buy something and if so what I want to buy 
we have some issues with eden posted in #beta-known-issues if they're truly stuck they may need to wait for a new build where the issue is fixed.
there are lots of pictures in #beta-screenshots-videos
Thank you ♡
you'll also get free spell versions of the cape when the 7th quest available in Live to try it out before you buy it.
Same goes for sword pants too right?
Nice 
Oofff thank you @vapid briar !
Dumb from me too cause I was reading it, sky dementia head yes.
this video may help on how to do it. You first need to walk to the light beam to place prop then you can sit and stand up to hop off #beta-screenshots-videos message
My game still crashes as soon as I enter the eden gate
still can't do the last quest
same😭
same, too
There are 9 days left of the season and I want to clear the last quest before it ends.
It's quite possible that fix will appear in live build. Complete the seasonal quests in live if they are important to you 
Please be sure to record the crash and bug report it. If you filled out a report last build but haven't this build, please do so again with a new bug report and video, just in case they made changes to try and fix the crashing.
they can delay the end of the season in beta if they need too. plus, we can get a few updates or so in 9 days, so hopefully eden gets fixed soon
Yep
What I've to do eden again on some day within next 9 days!? 
OK * gets ready with beta Cape and torch *
we had a week where a lot of us did eden multiple times a day for testing.
i did eden 3 times in one day, it was tiring i don't recommend 
when you really, really really like to hear Aurora singing 
i think i've only been back twice since then 
I still go at least once each update to go "what undocumented changes are there this build?" 
I don’t remember how many times I’ve been there to test. If only we knew it was intentional from the beginning
Daily 4-5 since we always found something we forgot to check in this and that build
at least we really got to know pnr inside and out
Hello! Does anyone have a list of where exactly are the locations that we activate Season's story quests? Trying to finish them now after realizjng we only have 9 days left
y'all have a lot of time on your hands. and willpower, i couldn't do eden that many times a day 
Imagine the WL grinds to get the numbers on the new slow speed only for it to not last that long. 
I've only done eden like 3-4 times in beta
Has the android update been fixed?
They should probably update known issues then
Shortcuts, plus not collecting a single wing or any wax in the meantime definitely helped. But I still do eden after every update. It’s an ever changing map intentionally or not.
Anyone?? 
Thank you very much!!

The rose cutscene gives hints , or ask here if you really can't find them...but then that's something to feedback
"Gentle reminder that the July 8th Traveling Spirit (sass)"
there's just some strange feeling when using the word sass instead of sassy like we use to do that makes me laugh like a little child 
Also oh god the last quest 
yeah... and eden is a bit broken right now. good luck 
I would say spoilers but it's beta and scroll up or screenshots and you'll see anyway 
O h n o 
Can I ask a favour if you are doing all of them? Can you check with if you can see the spirit manta is in starlight desert before/after each quest?
People always joke about an Eden season, but when the last quest of the season is to complete Eden in its entirety.....
Or is that actually a bug.....?
i updated it like 4 hours ago. when a line is struck out like this it means the issue is resolved.
Yess, but the problem is, theres no strike?
That’s just one quest though — imagine an Eden season where every quest sends you to Orbit 
might be something wrong on your end then?
Seems discord did an oops on some devices. It shows the double tilde, but no strike-thru.
It's probably because of the emote. A space would probably fix it?
It shows as 
~~Android players blah blah blah build 173017~~
Same for me
you might need to update your discord app?
I see the strike through correctly — blaming discord 
I'm literally on beta discord pffft 
It’s working for me. Maybe an android thing?
I would end up blind at the end of the season. My eyes don’t really like the current light orbit
. One eden every two week is not so bad.
I am on an older version, but the new discord update is just...I don't like it
imagine a beta version of discord being bug free 
Sure sure np
I'm still on my way to 2nd quest
But might continue the rest of the hunt when I wake up
Also is it alright if I ping you here with what I've checked?
No worries or need to check lots it was a passing theory I had.
The message is formatted correctly using discord's built in markdown tools. i'm not a discord developer, so you'll have to hang tight til they fix it. knowing their team is on vacation this week, it'll likely be broken for another several days.
Alright then 
Known issues updates for discord now ..are they paying you?/j
Imagine expecting an app called “discord” to be working as intended though 
"Beta" and "bugless" can never go together 
No app has no bug anyways
Even non-beta discord wouldn't let you send emotes once it's a phrase beside from the first line
And would show you something like this :aaaahhEyes:
aaaahh eyes
Yeah
Hello beloved citizens!
Hi skybot 
wait from where was that pipe prop again?
From rally that's currently at home
Placeholder that stole sassy from beta 
No weasel mask for beta players 
unless they alr have it
I mean? was it for days of summer?
pipe??
isn't that the one from the nintendo area-
I can't reach the hermit valley it always crash on entering there 
Anyone has a solution please?
No, the TS props aren't for Days of Summer. They're an extra... gift? ... For players to buy from a TS. It addresses the complaints from players who want something from a repeat TS that they already bought out.
is that so? I thought the days of summer items had that intention
I guess I'll have to read beta updates once again lol
Guys is there any support that I can talk to someone to solve a problem in my game? I had a bug in Eden and I can't get out. I've tried everything, going home, installing the game again, it doesn't work. Will that one report a bug serve me?
lmao beta support is this channel really 
tho I myself can't help ya, so, sorry
This video by Beth might get you out: #beta-screenshots-videos message
Heyyy did android update out?
Have you tried going home and chibi falling into the Eden gate from above the doors? You should be able to reset Eden that way. Not sure if it’s been patched or not.
If they saved a statue, you can no longer chibi fall out of stormlock.
Yikes, that’s awful.
Wait what? Can you still chibi fall if you haven't saved a statue?
take care out there 
Eden is still crashing. Someone???
Weird. I just watched someone close the game and use chibi fall from home after entering the point of no return. What changes after giving to a statue?
The game is waiting to give you your AC.
I thought they will returned the lantern. I can't find it.
Giving light to a statue makes the game think you have AC to collect in orbit, so you’re forced to go up and finish it. If you haven’t given wings, then the game allows you to update your return shrine to anywhere else as you’d like
Ugh, that seems annoying. I’ll say tho that the person seems to have not done that yet considering they could go home, but who knows. Since “going home” is disabled in the storm where the statues are.
Seems to be an issue only with Samsung phones. Other Android devices or iOS aren't crashing. Please fill out a bug report for this build if you haven't already so TGC knows the scope of the issue.
I think you can actually go home from the statue field in these latest builds, I distinctly remember doing that a few days ago
I'm gonna test to see if motos crash
It’s just not back yet. The way the Devs spoke about it suggests it will be returning tho.
Hmm, weird. I feel bad for the people who got locked in there. 
The lantern is confirmed to be returning in the update notes, we just haven’t reached that phase of the testing yet
hey beta testers. do you know if the days of summer hat is still buyable with candles (available for f2p)? it wasn't mentioned in beta updates, but i saw it in a couple youtube videos.
also, about the travelling spirits that show up during days of summer, can you buy their cosmetics as well (e.g., if ts during days of summer were, say, sassy stance, would you be able to buy the mask and hair from that ts in addition to days of summer props/cosmetics)?
Didn't crash, so that's good
No to the cosmetics on TS. At least the testing. Yes to the hat. Assuming you will be able to buy both from the TS’s in the future tho.
I want to finish the last quest but unfortunately i can't jump in ||eden|| t-t
Oh, thanks you so much for answering! How can I fill a bug report?
thank you!
!thatskybug
To report a Sky bug to TGC, follow the instructions at the bottom of the read-only #report-a-live-bug 
You can also read more detailed instructions in the link below! 
#questions-and-help message
hat is still 44 candles
How do I get into beta?
Maybe one day I can be a real Skykid! 
So, you’re saying that there are Sky kids trapped in eden that need saving? Sounds familiar
Huh--
Do you think bots can think?
Skybot if you say that one more time I swear.
.
Man, I love that new hat. Hope we get more cosmetics like it in the future. By that I mean, ones we can combine with different hairstyles.
currently doing the last quest, and the desert would look a lot better if the dust wasnt pixelated. this bug... 
I think it's an Android only thing. Dust doesn't pixelate on my Switch compared to my Pixel
yeah, but not all androids experience it, which is strange.
Snapdragon only?
What happens if ur glitched in eden ;;’(
no its not snapdragon. someone here has a snapdragon (samsung) and doesn't see it
Huh, weird
does anyone know exactly when the 2nd anniversary is coming to live?
July 18
thank you!
July 18 is Sky's anniversary, but we don't have a date for when the event will start yet except that it will be next week. Beta testers don't get early info so you need to watch out for further #news for that
cake spell... 
consumable_cake_small
consumable_cake_small... 


Can I ask a question about quest 6 of the little prince?
What is the significance of the dark dragon showing up towards the end?
I don’t get it
I think it's the sake reference.
In the book prince is getting bitten by a snake
That’s what I thought, but the dragon doesn’t actually get him...
this season isn't an introduction to petit prince, after all... it's more like an interesting delicacy for those who already read the book 
Because we see the prince walking off in the distance
personally I say it's TGC that wanted to send him to eden 
Tho the krill not agroing on the Prince is another lore bomb.
I think it highlights the fact that he is not the same species as us. He doesn't have a flame aka light. And dark dragon was confused for a second and ignored him.... Since he isn't tasty to krills
Haha funny
or they talked with each other and the krill told him to go to eden 
lore, lore, headcanons, headcanons
no sass for beta
Yeah. The prince isn't a skykid at all, so of course the krill would be confused
So the dragon is just a homage to the snake.
yo. whirthun! this one smells different! 
Prince came from parallel universe..
OR. the dragon found prince to be corrupted as well or smth.
little prince is the chosen one - the krill tamer. HE HAS THE KRILL CALL NOTICE HOW NOONE ELSE HAS HIS VOICE
hey! sorry for interrupting, but im stuck at the part of eden where the other person said something about going back home and getting a wing and then returning to eden
I wanna dm helpbot about this but idk if I can say beta content to it
LP is an international traveller, speaks Skykid language, adult spirit language, krill language. ☺️
LP is a polyglot.. Smart kid
If you are stuck at dark room place a prop in the beam walk up on it then walk down. The upstream will catch you if the placement was right. If you are stuck under eden go home and chibi glitch and do the whole eden thing again.
I am currently stuck above eden as a blue flying thing after you die
it's just flying upwards
i'm fairly sure you can 
but like, they don't really have a support for the beta version, so more technical questions might not be fitting, idk 
dew it, be happy
Uhh go home or restart then and use shrine.
Assuming every single staff knows what happens in beta, maybe you can
That happened to me, I just restarted the game and teleported back
It's not a question it'll just be me saying that the prince is issume to some of the devs
alright, thank you!
light hearted joke? sure, go for it
or maybe do it in the feedback channels, that might be a better mail to them 
Yeah I'll go send it in #beta-feedback
time for consumable_cake_small next week
TGC has done nothing but feed us with wax, tea and crumbs of lore
BUT TODAY WE FEAST, SKY CHILDREN! 
Caaaaake we consuming you again come here you're our sacrificial moff this week
Fun fact.
Cakes are actually considered a ritual.
The round shape represents the full moon.
The candles represent the elements (fire particularly)
And cutting the cake with a knife is considered the sacrifice
You all should know better, “the cake is a lie” ☺️
Oh, so that’s why I had a sudden urge to become a solitary witch when I ate cake last time
/jk
I consider cake as tasty so my skykid can eat tasty cake too 
"Hello! I've got some news for you guys. It seems that The Little Prince immune to krill, so that means he's issume to some of y'all, who are krill.
Since Prince is a completely different species from skykids, krill won't spot him, and end up confused. Krill such as Ktjn and Whirthun, be careful when around him! He can probably tame you guys, who knows
"
This is what I'm gonna send
Pie > Cake. Change my mind
How do you guys even eat cake
Do you just, spam the bow emote against the slice-
level 4 slouch. just fall into it
Just faint in it ☺️
And sent! As always, I sent an appreciation message to them
Alright ! Time to feast 
Faints into the cake
painnnn ok thanks to everyone who had the same troubles as me lol. what i came up with from my rocky eden experience XD was that 1. go to eden 2. get stuck underneath eden (red area) 3. go back home 4. chibi fall under eden door 5. take a winged light 6. go back home 7. use return shrine 8. die again 9. might get stuck as a blue flying thing above eden 10. restart game 11. return shrine 12. die again 13. go through the hugging orbit place 14. get stuck in the part before orbit 15. take a chair/or anything else 16. sit in it 17. do an emote 18. stand up 19. you're done!! 😅
managed to get unstuck from the dark room by running on top of my bonfire and forcing my skykid to jump off 
I think you maxed out all the possible ways in this build how to get stuck in eden during a single run.
had to use a table spell, a chibi spell, a glow spell, and a recharge spell ;w;
cuz im hella poor in beta XD
i actually didn't need to sit to get unstuck which was surprising
A glow spell? Blue light wasnt shiny enough?
Sitting is only required if you reach the middle of the beam or something like that. Your controls besides flying and camera gets locked there normally.
i did get into that spot. i walked out of it, placed a bonfire just before the camera lock, and jumped off of it
You were faster than the tgc hand
tutorial hand appearing there always surprises me even tho i saw it a thousand times
HELLO, no update android yet?
The asteroid cape can go with friends or just can use alone
There should be. Check your playstore.
If it's not there, clear play store cache
Friends too who are holding hands with the cape owner.
Is the birthday prop really going to stay looking like an assembly backpack when carried?
where do i find the little prince in hermit valley?
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
skybot i tried
i really tried
As all they never do something new for props 🤣
Lmao, it’d be nice if they removed the logo at least
yeah , seems like decorative props or props recommended to be used in shared spaces are all in the assembly backpacks
Yes and change the color idk is kinda boring
makes sense to do that but i get what you mean
Make it the TGC hand instead maybe?

Why specifically assembly tho? I get that that’s when/where they were introduced but aren’t shared spaces going to be everywhere eventually?
on graphics in starlight desert
yeah things do get pixelated a lot
even the purple glow of eden
vastly different on my air 4 compared to my poco x3
im not sure, maybe to remind you shared spaces exist. I dont really like the fact the items are in backpacks either.
i think tgc really doesn't expect anyone to carry those props
It’s the same backpack, only the item is replaced 🤔
The packs are cute but I feel like since assembly is finished they should at least be blank
I actually hope that the props in our inventory are more organized , to identify shared space items over instruments or etc
That’s actually a really good idea
oh about shared spaces, I recommended having a prop that we can use to leave a message for others in our shared space, would be interesting 
a sign
lol like a wooden sign from minecraft, 
Hahahaha a message board!
I still can't update beta on android 
When is the summer event gonna end?
have u tried clearing cache? i think android' update already rolled out. I already updated
I’m still sad that we won’t get sassy 
OK I'll try that
in beta it ends on july 6. Followed by summer lights event later
OK
I regret not doing the last little prince quest until beta was so broken you can't fly in the dark room 

The umbrella being IAP 
And too much expensive
places I crash when entering; Prophecy Cave, Sanct Islands, ⅔ of forest, Village of Dreams, Eden
yet to check Ark
I'm stick in Eden as we speak! Help!
Help me. Help me.Little Prince, I'm stuck in Eden on my way to the final quest.ㅠㅠPlease help me
We can't get out of Eden.
Well RiP for those who cant get Weasel Mask ||or Ktjn's mask|| on beta. 
I'm supposed to give you wings in the parlour and go to the hallucination room.The fly button's gone.I can't go...
you need to use a prop that you can sit on to get out. place it and sit down. use an emote, and then hop off of the prop
Im getting these crashes in live.
but not on enter, it's random
Just want to ask sth. Anyone Android getting crash? I just crashed in eden 
Yes
i froze in eden and now i spawn in limbo every time i open my game and try to resume
Same
i was trying to save for the sword outfit but now i can’t play at all. i didn’t have any sitting props to use. any ideas on how long it’ll take to help people out of eden?
I crash in eden, sanc, and forest brook 
do you have any table spells? tea table and the feast table also work
do you have the chibi mask or a chibi spell?
maybe a chibi spell, thought i’m relatively new to beta, but i’m not in the black room anymore. when i try to go to eden, i spawn somewhere under the map unable to move
ah, that i don't know how to fix 
i had the same issue you're having rn 😭 i did a chibi fall in front of the eden gate and swam under, and then reran eden and finished it that way
since you have 0 winged light, you'll get sent to the black room pretty much right away
am i able to send screenshots to this channel?
in #beta-screenshots-videos you can :D
I tried that again, but...I can't get out of the black room.The fly button is gone.
oh o_O
I can't fly
oh noooo ;-;-;-; i finished eden before the most recent update so i didn't run into that problem 😔
Ok so guys, idk if its my phone or what, but most seasonal areas crash my game 
Otw checking assembly treehouse, starlight desert, and ark, see if it'll crash me lmao
apparently sitting on a prop will get you out of the black room but T-T
this happened to me last night so everyone was having a big convo about iaps and the umbrella… not much glitch discussion
i’m glad people are finding work arounds now though
Treehouse crashes dang
you can get out of the dark room without sitting on a prop if you don't get too close to the light. if you have a prop that you can stand on, try to get on top of it and force your skykid to jump off. if you are close to the light (but not close enough to lock your camera) then your skykid will automatically fly up
So far none of those mentioned area crash my game on android
Ok i tested ark and it seems to work just fine, no crashes
Oh, now I understand. I have a cherry blossom table, so I'll try again. Thanks for letting me know.
so far, in beta it's pretty consistent to me, Everytime I go to those locations I certainly crash
Oh!!!!!!!! Finally...I'm out of the black room.Thank you so much!!ㅠㅠㅠㅠ I was afraid I wouldn't be able to get out...Really... thank you so much.
im still stuck in limbo
i used my last chibi spell, and i was able to move, but a wind wall stopped me when i reached a certain point
im seriously trapped aughh
is there anywhere you can contact tgc about something like other than by submitting a bug report?
Lemme try going in eden to check out this bug everyone's talking about

Stalking a bug...
...
I'm in
What do you want to contact them about?
No no that was an autocorrect mistake

I had the no fly button glitch in Eden’s dark room, but upon trying to restart the game and re-entering eden, the map is completely glitched where i spawn boxed in by wind walls under the map. i submitted a bug report, but i’m not sure if they’ll take steps to help people out of eden or not
😂 i broke the lpp sanctuary quest, tried to bring him out of sanctuary and he vanished into thin air
Beta is for testing, and bugs are bound to happen- even bugs that will sometimes softlock your game. A few testers have shared creative workarounds that worked for them, but if they don't work for you you might just need to wait a new update to come out
When it comes to beta, things can render the game unplayable until an update with a fix comes out. It's the nature of beta testing.
I understand that, if updating the game will probably solve the problem I’m okay with waiting and all. I’m just a bit new to the process and was unsure how the bug fixes tend to go since this is the first major bug i’ve come across
This is a pretty serious bug, so hopefully it will be fixed asap so affected players and future players don't have to deal with it. But in general, testers are left to their own devices to play around and get stuck sometimes 
One time my beta kid was stuck in stormlock for a few weeks, it was fun 
haha i’m sure they made a home out of it after a while
i suppose this can be my betakid’s edgy background… failed the eden loop and ended up in purgatory for a hot minute
Eden bug still happening? 
I want to get into Hermit Valley. But i always have crash. What should I do?
Report it as a bug and wait for an update to fix the issue.
Or use a different device that doesn't crash.
I get to Hermit Valley without crashing on my Pixel
is it not likely to have a new build before then end of petite prince testing? Still stuck in crimson hell and haven't finished the Eden quest tho....
Uh hello everyone- I just want to ask why when I start flying in beta, my skykid acting weird and start go to clouds automatically is it a new update or a bug?

is it true that the yellow umbrella is for iap now?
It's always been an IAP, that's why it was missing before. #beta-known-issues did state IAP items were missing. This update brought them back.
Does the Planets/Asteroids area has its own music yet?
I already ran out of spells and Eden is buggy so I dont have the cape 
It was dead silent last build. I haven't really logged on beta this build yet.
it costs 20 hearts before
It didn't.
The null item wasn't the umbrella, we don't know what it was originally
When I went with the previous build, the music was for reliving the memories of Butterfly Charmer. I haven't done it yet in my current build.
Is there a new update for the Beta Client? Im on Android and... it says there is an update but when I go to the store there is nothing
Android already got the update
Clear play store cache
So should i go to eden now? 
That didn't work... let me unistall.
I can't go to Eden. It's crash 
umm i have a question, I've downloaded beta before, but because the update can not be so intended to delete the download, but I found that the download can not, how do I do?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
If clearing play store cache doesn't work, try rebooting your device.
Don't go to pnr Eden now,
check out #beta-bugs-ios for reasons why you shouldn't.
use a prop to escape.
what should i do to download back beta (´°̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥`)
Oh... great I mistakenly pressed leaving the beta testing programm D:
Well guess I had a good run, T-T I may return to that if it opens in the future
Oh nooo sorry to hear that
hopefully there’ll be more invite waves in the future
Same,,, and now waiting for another beta invites wave 🗿
will the price of the umbrella change
wait for the next beta wave, unfortunately
oh no(°ཀ°)
At last, android can updating the beta. Noice 
Who can help me, send me a link to download the ios beta version
ios is currently closed/full
Thanks everyone but its ok :3 I will return to it when they open more slots
Hello, where should I go to find the next opportunity to apply
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
you just need to keep an eye out in #beta-signup-info whenever there's an opening announcement 
Ok.thanks
How long will days of summer last in beta?
According to #beta-announcements, it'll last for 5 days
Oh thank goodness
Thank you so much!!
Good thing I went eden before this bug happened.

#beta-announcements message RIPPP NO WEASEL MASK
Get your weasel mask in live 
You can get it in live this reset 
What is about this Eden bug? I didn't go there yet so idk till now
For those who are stuck in Eden's dark room
- Bring out the chat table, stacked up against the golden pillar.
- Sit down
- Select "Sit" from the Expressions Map and lie down.
- Put the red candle out from the Expressions Map.
You will be able to move. Jump from the top of the desk. - You can leave the dark room!
I'm sorry I don't speak English well.
You can't jump to fly out of the dark room... Read above to get yourself out.
I’m stuck in the red oob unfortunately
Alternative method of getting out of the dark room, only if you are not stuck in the beam of light (you can get out of the light if you're already stuck, but its difficult):
- place a prop down near the beam of light. It has to be one with collision.
- get on top of the prop
- hop off of the prop towards the light by swiping up
Your skykid will automatically start flying, and now you're free!

Will the Summer Lights lantern return soon? Is it a bug that it's not showing?
It's currently days of summer in beta. Days of summer lights has not started
Because in the beta updates note build 172775, it says the lantern will return with this event?
See patch notes for build 173017
Please Note—Days of Summer Lights is a later phase of this event and will begin on July 8th. The lantern IAP will be returning during this phase.
🔸Days of Summer Lights Lantern—Lantern prop item and 35 Regular Candles—$19.99 USD
Is it normal that I can't see the spirits of other seasons in the map and can't get the emoji in
Beta?
Have you finish eden?
Ohh I see the notes now. Thank you!

Haven't (´°̥̥̥ω°̥̥̥`)
I see, you have to finish eden first before seeing the other past spirits. ^^
Owhhh! Thank you!
Anyone have a good
joke?
No
Is the umbrella an iap now? The umbrella for days of summer
Yup cost $19.99
I’m not even surprised sky trolled us like this 
It wasn't ever igc tho, so there's no 'now'
hi guys I want to ask how to join beta?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
I remember it costing 20 hearts?
Nope. Misinformation. That was a scrapped idea that got into game cause of a bug
It's only player's speculations that the Null Item costing 20 Hearts was Umbrella.
the thing that costed 20 hearts was air
I got thi trick from @dry flax dan finally I made it out of there
When I was outside the darkroom (oob red)
- I went home, used the asteroid cape spell
- Went to the asteroid area
- Came back home
- used return shrine
People purchased air 
oh well, I’m just glad that the summer hat is free/candles and the seashell hairpin is cheap
You can read #beta-announcements latest post for clarification about the umbrella.
I feel like the price of the umbrella should be lowered to $10 or $15 at least
i feel like it’d get more sales if it was cheaper, since.. $20 for an umbrella? I know most IAPs cost around that much but
I’m a little dissatisfied 
Indeed, if you would like to suggest a different pricing , please do so in #beta-feedback 
I’m not in oob area, but somehow the flight button wouldn’t show up for me in eden when the pillar of light shows up 
Guess i’ll have to try the asteroid cape trick too
Nvm i’m wingless rn the cape won’t show up lol
I mean I can still discuss things here, since it is testing discussion, but I’ll still submit that to feedback 
I also agree some of Sky's IAP is indeed pricey for its item and functionality.
I wouldn’t even mind if they made the umbrella 40 hearts
That's to say right after it's summer lights event which also gives another 20$ item. I personally am not too bothered that events have IAP but recent events in Sky are quite packed making it look like there's a lot of IAPs stacked on one another
Perhaps TGC should look into the timing of events and how many there should be in a year.
There's been way too many... 
yeah, recently I’ve realized Sky is making a ton of events
and most of the events have mostly iaps or 175 candle items every month 
(This is exaggerated but still, you know what I mean)
Phew, we need a break

You mean our purse needs a break
Both my fingers from cr and my purse. 
All the events this year so far: Ox event, day of bloom event, ocean event, June/rainbow event, switch event(?), the little prince event (items), the upcoming birthday event and then the days of summer event
and after that I assume days of giving, Halloween event, Christmas event
r e p e a t
What will we hv from days of giving, i mean the IAPs, i forgot last yer
Its not to much the pricing, rather it’s how close together they are you know? I can afford the $20usd items individually but one after another after another?? $20usd is $30-ish aud and it really stacks up
They had no IAPs, it's a double heart event
Ahh i see, thanks
days of fortune-days of love
days of bloom-days of nature
days of rainbow-anniversary (no IAP)
days of summer-days of summer lights
days of mischief-days of feast
currently events for a whole year to be more accurate
plus possible add on events ^
days of autumn
That’s a lot.. even more than last year
yeah they got their track record up
I hope tgc will change summer items not using Assembly backpack. Change the logo or made a clear backpack without logo. I will send feedback about this.
after all they are growing their company to get more dev time in for more things
my phone died while doing the eden sequence (walking to the child) and when i go back, i end up in oob. anyone know anything i can do for this?
That happened to me, do you have chibi mask?
I do, but I wasn't wearing it
why hat IAP cosmetics don’t get sold well:
THEY CANNOT GO ON HAIR
Heloo is it true that umbrella is now iap
Why 😭
It's always been IAP
It was always iap.
It was always meant to be IAP
😭😭😭😭😭I am so poor
It's so much expensive in my country 😔 how will I manage to get it 😭
remember to prioritize food over Sky cosmetics if you don’t have that much money 
Ok so, restart your game. When it’s open again you should be at home with no gates. Go to wardrobe and put on chibi mask. Chibi fall near the Eden gate and swim underneath it. Proceed through Eden as per usual
Wait for the TS umbrella to arrive , I actually didn’t plan to buy it either cos I bought the scarf 
hello. can anyone help me? I'm stuck in eden beta. no fly button.
😢🥺
Do you have chibi mask?
@blissful tree no i dont have.
😬 R.I.P.
Wait for next update?? Maybe? Uh. I’m not sure. You could probably contact support. Idk
I wonder if there’s a chibi spell on the boat? Or do you have chibi spell?
Typically there's no need to contact support about beta , are you stuck in the eden dark room with the child?
Does anybody know what the pot looking thing is? At the top of rallying thrillseeker tree?
I think it’s the Switch (home playground) Tunnel.
Cause if you plant it somewhere high, you’ll see an entrance underground. I put it in map entrance at home. It is the tunnel.
Is it an instrument or something?
Mario pipe knockoff 
Its a little tunnel thing , that looks like the mario pipe for the nintendo entrance
at first when I go to eden. I already finnish my wing. and then need to hug the sky boy is it? so after that we need to fly right? but the fly button don't have. so that i restart my phone. and return to eden. but the result is so sad. cannot move at all.
Do you have a chatting prop/spell? Like table
Try the steps in this post i replied to , @misty roost
Well when I return at eden I'm naked. no instrument at all. the condition is like when we want to hug the boy at eden. no instrument or anything.
After you hug the eden boy you should be able to access your props and cosmetics
the thing is. is I bring instrument. when I go back in eden. I'm all naked. no instrument at me or anything. huhu
Check the spells, the blessings. @misty roost
should I send u the picture?
You can send over to #beta-screenshots-videos .
ok I send it
Also remember that one day you'll eventually stop playing and reevaluate everything for a good minute
Me thinking about this after buying IAP.
💸 
quick question about the eden bug (and its fix): after going through eden wingless, will i still get the ascended candles at the end?
I wonder if any of you guys recently sent a feedback and had a bot notification? I didn’t receive the bot notif and my post is still kinda there instead of eaten by the discord system.
(despite it being sent/not loading or something)
after finally hugging the child, now i cant fly up into the light 
is there anything i can do about this?
Check this. At this point you can use property/spells, so if you don’t bring any, I hope you have spells. #beta-discussion message
Skybot is broken in feedback. 
hmm so there isn't any new prop in the traveling spirit in live yet?
It’s not meant to be live yet
so this is beta?
WHeRe iS tHe LANtern
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
has someone bought the capeless thing?
so days summer and summer lights is the same event but summer lights being another phase.... 
days of summer lights might become like how days of love was mixed in during days of fortune
Is days of summer lights lantern supposed to be available now? I mean it's alr July 8th
the days of summer IAPs still has 23 hours left so days of summer lights might start tomorrow resset
Righttt okok
Why is sassy not visiting Beta? 
To test the TS prop thing
Beta is currently testing the TS props and the testing period isn't done yet
Oh thanks
#beta-announcements said so too 
Thanks @viscid marten and @cosmic orchid
in the update notes, summer lights should have begun today
Am I missing something or Lantern isn't out yet? When in #beta-announcements it says Days of Summer Lights should begin 8th of July (which is today)
I even checked office, to no avail.
is it worth submitting feedback on too many events kind of hurting the experience in several ways but especially suspension of disbelief and grind pressure
as I just...all I want is for the devs to slow down a little in consideration for everyone, especially themselves
When will summer activities start?Does anyone know the time?
Might be scheduling error for the summer lights. We shall wait and see
!whosthatspirit @timid sapphire
Once you finish The Eye of Eden, you can relive past seasonal spirits to get the first level of their expression 

You can read more about this feature here: http://bit.ly/SkySeasonalExpressions 
Wow thanks
How do you claim the astroid cape?
Finish final seasonal quest, buy in shop
Hello,
I have a problem in Eden. I wanted to make the Last challenge from the Little Prince. I have collected the statues, lost my last wing. After the scene with the white child, I fell into the ground. I can’t move me at that place. I went back to home and tried to restart, but I alway start at that point. What can I do?
try going home, wear chibi mask / tiny spell / chibi spell , enter eden portal and get the first winglight , it should stop you from going back to eden pnr
does asteroid jacket come with candles?
just the jacket
oh bruh
office cape is 30 usd and has 100 candles but the jacket doesnt?!
Thank you for your help 😊 I will try it
the jacket is $25 tho,
Jacket is collab item
man
jacket is a limited time item
Your solution works better for me! Thanks!!!
Thank you, I am outside 🥰
Thank you, I am outside with your help 🥰
If you’re frozen inside the light beam in dark room, leaving emote menu open enables you to move with left button. I thought doing emotes helped me in my last run but I went to eden again and leaving the menu open is enough to use left button. You can place a sitting prop or cast a prop spell and then stand on it to hop off towards the light beam to ascend
Did the Days of Summerlight start already orrrr
Seems like the days of summer guide got taller
Is the traveling spirit in beta? I can’t find her
How much is the umbrella again?
hi
$20
does valley and eden have the same bug right now?
stil lexpensive!
this is beta after all
so while the possibility of prices raising or decreasing are low, it's still possible
I really hope the umbrella becomes IGC 
It won’t
It’s not up for debate, it’s always been planned to be IAP. Please read #beta-announcements
When is days of summer coming in Sky?
We don't know. Keep an eye on the news channel.
Ok^*^
Valley has a bug? Did CR... Didn't notice anything apart from some low poly areas compared to live
crash on village 
There was an issue in the Temple maze. Where you would glitch trough the walls. Glad to hear it's not an issue anymore 😃
Ah that was there yes. But same bug as eden??
I don't think so. I don't know 
Hey! i just wanted to make sure…is there any official statement stating that there is absolutely no return of the little prince IAP?
Please note that these items are not planned to return through Traveling Spirits.
in this sentence, traveling spirits refer to the iap items and sword pants (and we can imagine the ultimate gifts too)
the regular spirits of this season will come back as ts one day
correct me if i'm wrong please 
I already know, I just really like it but don't have money to buy it
Yes spirits will return, it's written in there, they asked about iaps
Excuse me,may i ask the anniversary hat is pink or blue?
Rainbow spells available during friday to sunday. Just verifying. I just asked again as i asked the other day coz i need to buy some spells 😂. I dont have any saves
thank you!!!
Thank you so much! This really helped!
Thanks @forest mist this is superb advice too! Worked like a charm for me

Sorry if my English grammars aren't fluent, I don't know should i ask in here or where, but i just want to know when they will fix the instrument keys? It's really painful when some players can't play music well...
is crashing on sanctuary island just a samsung thing?
No!
What i mean is when i want to press 2 ~ 3 keys, it just don't work, and I kept clicking on others' chat when i just want to press the keys....... ;___;
Could be device specific. I'm on Samsung and i have no crashes. My friend is on a slightly older Samsung and is crashing also in Sanctuary.
same case with me, my is also Samsung
Yes, they are working on a solution. Check beta-updates. It states "potential solution". I guess it's not quite sorted yet.
Ok I see, thank you! uwu
Hope they will fix it soon!
Me too 

use another phone brand with lower specs and older too but everything works fine for that phone
Yes that can also be the case. It's just all very specific. You can not state It's a Samsung issue.
on a samsung phone that released last year, experiencing crashes every realm
I'm on a S20 I don't have issues crashing overall. I crashed in Eden in the last build. I'm going to subject myself to the pitty room problems to see how my device responds in Eden 
Only weird issue I noticed was some structures blinking in the Desert first area
Like they ain't properly loading, dissapearing and reappearing in seconds
Hello! Anyone got the Summer lights lantern already? Or not yet showing in beta?
It doesn’t seem to be in beta yet, we’re not sure why 
I dunno if they are doing Summer Lights currently, tho the surroundings have changed in home space (rather festive)
Did anyone checked office? Returning iaps are usually appear there
I think someone earlier said they checked office and it wasn’t there
It should be active considering it says so in #beta-announcements
Ahh ok thank you . I have the lantern from last year so i couldn't see it even if it was there thats why i asked, just to make sure
But you know what I’ll just check office quickly to make sure 
Where can i check out the other 2 shared spaces apart from Assembly treehouse?
Nope, no lantern in office. 
Office and prairie social
Thanks Mer
Not a beta tester here. So i have a question. Is the anniversary event removed from beta now? And how much did the cap cost during the testing?
How can i get beta version 🙂
Anniversary ended a good while ago in beta. More than a month i think. The beta price were 3 hearts i believe but beta prices may or may not transfer to live.
Last year's hat was 3 hearts.
Holaa Does anyone know what month will Come in Live . D Days of summer?
Beta players don't get schedules for any event. Keep an eye on #news it will be announced there
Thanks
I checked earlier and it wasn't there, assuming you were referring to Lantern?
I will check again 12 hrs after reset, maybe it's scheduled at a later time 
feels like the home decoration schedule wasn't extended even if days of summer testing was
Ok so um idk where to ask this question but when is the tgc anniversary event coming?-
The price of summer umbrellas is little expensive🤯
All sky children were once moths... but only few of them remember it
It says next week in #news
Thank you!
The price of summer umbrellas is expensive i think……😩
You can give feedback on it in #beta-feedback if you like!
last year it was the 13th of jul to the 19th so most likely the same this year
thanks!
hi someone can tell me if its possible to reach the cloud mountain of eden from starlight desert ?
I got error in eden :(
hello can i just ask, when i try to get the asteroid cape in beta, it says i need to do more progress but i have no clue what to do
Complete the Little Prince Season Quests
alright thanks!
Yes, through a glitch
@kindred fossil and later in little prince season there are no way to go through the barrier who block the path of the mountain ?
Can I DM instead?
Anybody got screenshots of the 14 heart item?
i cannot continue in ||eye of eden|| , it keeps bringing me into this glitched red eden area, i've read the known issues that said using return shrine to resume eye of eden will result in crash, i don't know if it's the same bug, but anyone experiencing the same ?
Try this trick by Nomad
#beta-discussion message
oh !! i'll try real quick, hold on
someone knows how i can report a bug from SKY beta, i don't have permission to write the report channel
i cannot use the jacket since i haven't finished the quest thingy 
Use the #beta-bugs-ios or #beta-bugs-android channels
I can't write to any of those channels
Do have the spells?
ohh right !! let me check againn
read the message on the bottom
Or the pin. Most channels have pins with explanations. 🙂
Okay, thank you very much!
📌 ? The most recent pin is from December last year
Updoot!
updoot!
updoot This update includes:
-Improvements for Eye of Eden
-Additional season and event polish
-Bug fixes and improvements
wonder what’s waiting for us
updoooooot
Time to go to Eden again 
Updoot? 
Well Sagomay answered that pretty quickly in #beta-announcements 
"adjusted the gap in eye of eden. you know which one" PRAISE MEGABIRD
CAN I FINALLY BE FREED FROM EDEN'S GRASPS /GASP 
gap change? 👀 now this i wanna check out
is this the first time we have a update not from ktjn
A new haircut for guide? Ooo LEMME SEE

gap? 
Adjusted The Gap in Eye of Eden. You know which one
The responses you got earlier were telling you to read the pins for a specific mod directive, which apparently isn't pinned in this channel (or at least isn't pinned any longer in here): the second pin in #beta-screenshots-videos tells people not to make outfit requests (presumably applicable to all the beta channels in general), while also telling us not to honour the requests by responding with the requested screenshots.
as long the update from devs 
the gap in eye of eden bruhhh 
I'll post the pin here too for consistency:
FYI Beta players, please do not honor requests for outfit screenshots or other aspects of testing. The beta channels are not here for people to come asking for previews, and pictures honoring these requests may be deleted without warning.
FYI Non-beta players, please do not come to beta channels making requests like this. This is a social space for beta players, and you are free to lurk, but not to beg previews.
I was just asking for a screenshot so I could find out what it is, since I cannot afford it
There are free spells at the boat to try those props, no?
Oh there are? Lol i didn't notice xD
i cant find lantern in IAP shop, is it still missing after update?
You could also just scroll through beta screenshots when the item was first brought to beta and most likely find people posting pics of it
Me: finding new gaps every time i say to my friends it will be a quick eden. And it’s never quick
Wait, what was the 14 heart item? I forgot.
Ah thanks, I didn't think to look at the boat
When will TGC released Beta app in IOS?
Update is out on Android, atleast for me it is.
“Quick” is the keyword. Whenever we use it, it ends up being a long/buggy adventure 
I can’t check since I tested it last year, but it might be available come reset?
Not in Home shop, but I haven't checked if it's in the office shop.
bars
The lantern is part of the Days of Summer Lights event, which is separate from the Days of Summer event. They are being tested back to back, but I think we're still in the first one, so lantern isn't here yet
Bars?
Is the sword pants gonna be at the spell thing I don’t know the name if it’s going to be in the forgotten ark or the boat(if it’s coming back) you know?
Updooot👀
Ok there's an update in beta, but... WHAT HAPPENED TO KTJN? 👀
I ate it 
KTJN WHERR
KTJN MY BELOVEDD
You did WHAT?!
VOMIT HIM
Guys guys can I ask you something?
Er, ok. Let's calm down a bit now.
Maybe this is Ktjn's day off, I hope she's doing well and resting
Skybot ate Ktjn noooooo 
when you cant update cause of storage: 
Ktjn is currently stuck in eden. Someone forgot to get her out of the gap before they filled it 
when you can't update cause android: 
Android quite fast this time.
Android can update it 
Bot ate her
Oh no we can't do the Eden shortcut anymore ;-;
What about the 1 hour delay?
this is... very entertaining 
poor kitchen 😔
Ktjn had to abscond to a secure undisclosed location. We can neither confirm nor deny Skybot's involvement in this matter.
I'm updating it right now, i'd say check it out 
Lmao the gap is gone finally 
Ktjns secret dungeon 
Wait..what skybot does? 
"The Gap"
The gap bruh eden just got 120% better lol
Rip the gap.
But in all seriousness, ktjn doesn't always have to be the one to post updates 
it exists
and rule over us all and is the owner of the krills TGC 
Wait which gap doe. there were 2 at the beginning and one at the end of eden floor
Imma go check eden after finishing updoot
The Gap may take its place alongside Old Glow Spell in the hall of memeable scarring experiences 
So no shortcut to eden? Both gaps died?
Google woke up already

It is THE gap...
The gap which you use for the shortcut.
Old glow spell. 😎
Omg old glow spell. That hurt in eden
Yea.... but there's 2 gaps....
But there's only one The Gap
I thought there was only one
App still crashes as soon as I enter Eden gate 
Sagomay only discloused information regarding 1 gap
Which gap is that
there is another 
pretty sure its not the one in the wall 👀
I presume it's the one that all chibis hate 
Laughs in size 1 in beta
Laughs in size 2-1 in live
Wich is it? I'm still confused
oh god that one
eden shortcuts
Lol being a chibi i would spend like 5-10 minutes just to get over the gap lol
wider gap? smaller gap? gap we always skip? 
Actually some users just place a chair over that gap and simply walked over it
That gap? I thought it would’ve been the one at the entrance to the corridor, I actually did get stuck there with no way out... until a nice krill helped me out

Wh-what—where's ktjn, did Sagomay take ktjn hostage, what is this gap we speak of, did ktjn get thrown into the gap?? 
Also since I should probably say something productive: thanks for fixing that glitch with the red rocks! I wasn't sure if that was related to the walking-slowly glitch but man that one was an experience to find. 
I ate it 
I- 
wait, you guys filled that hole? it's like a whole ramp now?
aw the memories tho
Oh that gap. I'm good with that gap. I got a way to jump up not from that gap. But yes that gap is a pain for many skykids
R.i.p that gap AYYY
STOP EATING KTJN, SKYBOT
WE'VE BEEN OVER THIS
Omg the Eden slow walking and wind are fixed thank god.
Hoping it will come to live soon because I wanted to bring two friends through Eden on Saturday oof.
I must update Beta and check out the gap, but... Android
Is the sword pants gonna be in the spells too?
The jury has spoken. Skybot is guilty of eating ktjn. Sentenced to 5 krillings by the krill guarding pnr
aw I'll miss it
super fun to watch me and others jumping and falling again 
Okay, for the new folks who just entered the chat. The gap in the 1st eden area with the flying rocks. It's not the glitch oob thing, just the going up area
I HAVE BEEN SUMMONED
oh nvm the update comes 1hr later to my platform
There's a spider next to me

Someone stop skybot, TGC staff will be eaten before we know
Skybot: eats jenova chan/chen? Help?
If I disappear, you guys, think well of me 
No one is answering my question.-_-.
It was during beginning of beta, so we don't know
No
they'll be fine, they're just on an enforced vacation to orbit and rebirth 
No. (Answer for you question) 
No
You happy now, LiaAaa
No
Ok thanks beta heroes
and yes I’m happy now
Yesnt
Lmaooo
I'll have to take a lot of commemorative pics of The Gap in live now before it's gone forever 
We have a new update bringer ?? 😍
It will be according to this message: #beta-discussion message
i found a serious bug in sky beta but i don't know how to report can someone do this for me?
Sagomay aren't new- oh wrong reply 
That gap isn’t a problem is it ? Just wait for the wind to lay down
Is it that one or the one we use to go oob in Eden
I don't know how to do this
Thx god
I can report if needed.
Even without the strong wind the gap was difficult to properly jump over for smaller skykids. Hopefully it'll be a bit easier for players to get over it, especially newer ones that don't know to wait for the wind to die down
Skybot gives you instructions, you just have to read what it says
on the very bottom of those channels, there's an emote you can react and the bot will explain things
but I don't know what to do after, sorry 
Always do it chibi 😎
Thanks I'll talk to you in private, will you?
Bye bye eden gap 😢
Why "the gap" removed? It is no harm to anyone 
The wind strength adjusted on whole eden or several part?
What was “the gap” 
Before getting chibi mask , I would just place my table as a pavement
I just fly to the end now
I suppose I have to do eden the normal way today
It's recommended that the user who experiences the bug reports it themselves, so the information is correct and personal.
You know, most of these questions could be answered if you go to Eden to see for yourself 
I think it's the one used to fly over the clouds
I know , a whole new world opened up for me while doing Eden as intended 😂
Noice, my beta updated. Time to go full throttle to Eye of Eden.
Wait don’t tell me my 2ND Eden skip was removed?! 😭
When i see the update, I think i will not update the game and go to eden one more time
Its not the one used for skips. It's the huge gap towards the end of the 1st area right before you make a turn into the building at the top
oh wow the gap!! that was one of my first bug reports back in the day, fell inna coffin 
According to tgc dev: #eden-spoilers message
Don't mind the gap 🚊
Was the gap of Eden fixed the one people use to jump and OOB? 👀
I am at Eden and that is still there
Energy gap 
Different gap you guys. It's the one where it's super windy when you jump. Not ideal for chibis
Rip, eden still crashes 
Oh, pfft! Thanks TGC ❤️ That gap was a chibi nightmare
TGC: closed the gap. You know the one
Everyone: [no one knew that]
I've just quoted the above chat 😊
no collision in valley maze still 
i know they said "You know which one" but uh what one is that one gap in eye of eden?
the guide looks very much bald for me
with a huuuuge hat
The guide seems to have hide and seek hair to me
Did you update 👁️
yeah otherwise the game wouldn't let me log in
Is it the one at the last part with the krill and the flying rocks near the steps? Sorry I don’t think this is that specific
Wait so did they just make the gap smaller? Cause I still managed to not be able to make the jump despite being like size 0 
No, that happens a bit later after update is released. Check your build and version number
That’s only in the case of a forced update. Are you on build 173164?
173017
i just updated it nooo
Question: will lantern come back? When?
hmm i still can't save my shared space in prairie 
Oh wonderful, rose quests are also replayable. Maybe time to replay quest 7 and test Eden in one go?
Edit: only the 🌹 🥀 monologues can be rewatched no LP 😭 He is only in the last few frames of the season credits 🥺
In beta: Yes
Dunno, it said the 8th on patch notes but 
I am asking because of that thank you anyways 💕
I'm going to update and attempt Eden. But first checklist:
☑️ Table Spells
☑️ Carry a torch
☑️ Possibly need a asteroid cape spell
☑️ Beta Cape
☑️ chibi mask ON
☑️ Get prince to come for photo op
Oh jeez, that’s a lot...
We’ll have to see by next reset
has the most recent patch in #beta-announcements been applied?
One can not be over prepared when it comes to beta and it is a Eden run!

I want to find my hearts given to summer spirit 😭😭
if anyone’s trying to test the new eden changes let me know! i’m interested but i can’t hop online rn :(
I think a good rule or advice we've seen lately is to be wary of spending currency on null items. Items with a wip should be fine, but be cautious nonetheless
And remember the no-compensation rule from the #beta-faq even if you’re willing to risk your currency
The gap in eden.... is not THAT GAP right???
Is the Eden gap they closed the OOB one?
No, it’s not the OOB gap
Oh good. I like to fall down far enough for the lighting to look really weird and take pictures.
It’s the gap from the 1st section of Eden, the one we all struggled with as moths
I didn't know there was more than one gap to be confused about
ah right i just dont have the new build because 🧂 🤖
Chibis get stuck everywhere 
Wait, the gap is the one right before the first wing light?
Nice!
I get stuck in that gap as an x wing so I'm looking forward to trying it out again
yeah the one you need to build momentum before jumping
Those dang Chibis
/j
Concerning the gap, all you have to do is watch the flags in the distance on the left and run and hop over the gap when they stop blowing in the wind! Granted they were a little hard to see or notice in the first place. I’m curious how easy it is to get across it now.
Interested to see how the final section before the tunnel is now bc i lost like 12 wl getting thru there for the final prince quest last week 
how many rocks hit you?
am i just not allowed to skip the credits?
i think i only lost lights once because i was rushin
Oh me too! I thought it was just me being terrible at Eden
Great. Now Eden is broken for Android 
it isnt
Rocks twice, krill twice. Between the wind and getting paralyzed it was like my first trip ever all over again lol
what is not broken in android
At least for me it is
just went up as a chibi, and i could jump the gap even with the wind blowing -- all i needed to do was stick closer to the side that was near the wall, rather than the outer edge
i just did it like 5 mins ago lol
oh oop the new build is here
Graphic wise is what they meant I think
Guys is the music in the seasonal area there now? When you walk into the starlit dessert?
Bruh days of rainbow was so dull and now the summer rainbow is blinding bright

What Summer rainbow? 
I WAS JUST ABOUT TO SAY I’M STILL STUCK IN EDEN AND ITS SCARY THEN I SEE THE UPDATE WOOOO
uh guys, so when i use shrine to return to eden it teleports me to this out of bound area and i can't move t-t
I did and i could fly over the first and second area easily, winds are safe tbh.
I need to check inside temple :’)
Check your audio settings as they are now saved when you quit the game and launch later. If the music toggle is tuned down then you won’t hear music of the realms
Oh lol...
I entered home like 4 times and all of the 4 times there was a rainbow in the exact same spot..... I thought it was the event's aspect..... What are the chances
Thrillseeker is sending a message 
In the yesterday's news post it was said that the days of summer light will begin on 8th of July. Did it really start or?
No, I mean like seasonal area music... when you enter all the new seasonal areas, the music that plays is different from the music that plays in the area itself
Ex.) think sanctuary cave music
Ex2) music in the prophecy caves
Ex3) the music in the forgotten ark
The new seasonal area at least as of last update and in live too, has no music (until you play the quests) but that’s not what I’m talking about
Haha I can't go into eden
What news post? Oh wait!
Beta updates!
still nothing was wrong for me. pretty sure the new end is intentional
Yeah I somehow read live in your post even though you never mentioned, but no idea why it didn’t start yet. Maybe next reset?
Maybe!
Referring to this graphical issue: #beta-screenshots-videos message
oof i dont have that
The Starlight Desert area plays ground level Vault music (just turned up the Music toggle in the audio settings).
I thought it was the TRICK gap in eden that gets "fixed" 
So it's just the stair gap.
Same, i was actually happy for a split second-
Exactly, it plays the vault music, not its own music... which is weird since all seasonal areas up until now play their own seasonal area music (I.e sanctuary caves have their own music, they don’t play the daylight prairie soundtrack on repeat)
I think it’s a bug
At the end of quest 1, they started playing some theme music (the same music from the teaser) in the area, but after you leave the area, that music disappears
Floating lantern sounds cool though
and ominous
Make it move around //slapped
I know we brought this to TGC's attention via bug reports and discussing with ktjn if it was intended or not. Hopefully it gets fixed soon. The audio file is there, it just isn't playing.
I hope it gets fixed.. honestly I just really wanted to hear the little prince;s theme again ;-; it sounded so beautiful
Question ❓: Does the glitch above the 4 player door (in Vault) doesn't work? (With chibi)
i'm a bit curious, is anyone else's game crashing upon entering vault on the new build? it crashes after loading in btw. it seems to be consistent for me, and it also happens immediately upon entering eden. (for extra information stuffs, i'm on android.)
Wait… so the fire next to the sand castle at home, it’s like the Blossom Tree of Days of Bloom?? Like, they give wax all the time??
Ty
Hmm I have to rewatch my earlier recordings. I only remember the Vault theme playing there for quite some time.
https://youtu.be/wLykDRuxbsM
It’s the music that was playing from 5:31, it was playing on repeat after the completion of the quest but once you re-enter the area or watch the rose’s story quest, it stops playing ;-;
I don’t hate the vault music in this area, but it feels too mellow and soft for the area, so it gives off a more lonely feel than anything :(
I share the sentiment
spirits no longer turn to you when ur greeting them from the back.
bug or a feature ?
Also am I the only one wishing that the ult rose played the same music from the rose cutscenes?
Im sorry but it's telling me Beta Sky was last updated july 1st. Anyone else?
No
Clear play store cache and reboot your phone. It should show the recent update after doing those steps.
It only lights ur way.
it acts like a portable spotlight that you can shine around
I see, then i’m gonna save my hearts for later thanks u 
oh that lamp
yes, it does
the IAP doesn't
It says july 7th now but- it's July 8 today tho.
That's just a google date issue. It's the correct update.
Guys,
Can we talk about the moths - THE POOR MOTHS 🥺 -
how DISAPPOINTED will be
when their wishful item will be in live is an IAP?!
to be fair a moth can be disappointed at many things that they cannot obtain at all
Guys... If spirit stands when summer event starts , where can traveling spirit stand? 😂
Are you talking about the prop from the TS? It does recharge. My video should be in #beta-screenshots-videos with it's recharge speed soonish.
I kinda liked the DoS spirit without hair.
At the pond where they always have? If you meant why Sassy hasn’t come to beta please read the post regarding it in #beta-announcements (TL;DR she’s not coming.)
The items in the thrillseeker tree will be distributed in the traveling spirit's tree. One in each ts
so that means each event will last 2 weeks? 
Which gap in eden was fixed? I don't know which one 😂 even though I went this week
Thanks, yea i was talking about it and then i’m gonna buy it 
the pitty room
1st Section of Eden before the first 1 WL, that one
its still crashing for me in eden

has anyone noticed anything bout afk animation, been standing for quite some time and nothing happened 🙉
false alarm
I had been standing for more than 2 mins and my skykid hasn't sit
Skykids are just built different
😂
After holding a hand and hugging the child in the Eye of Eden, the action icon (fly/jump) disappeared from my screen, I went home and returned via the altar, avatar duplicated and inverted
I want to cry, no matter how many times I come back down the aisle, I show up on the same bug 
I cant even go to eden

Is that 200 normal candle cape from the seasonal mission giver going to be exclusive to the season, or will players be able to get it after the season ends?
they will only be avaliable during the season
You mean the sword pants? No, it’s not going to stay after the season ends
The sword pants. Thanks.
I thought items given by seasonal quest givers were permanent? Was it like that for assembly too then
And Sanctuary and Dreams.
This is a licensed item, so that’s why it’s not going to stay after the season ends
Ah ok
Sword pants are under copyright, so they won't come back after the season ends, ever. Same goes for the ults (most likely) and the iaps
Man. 200 candles 
TGC plans to bring the ults of the other seasons back in some capacity eventually
Have you updated to today's build? I had no issue flying once I hugged the child
200 candles for sword pants is worth it, especially since they're really cool and go well with anything
Anyone knows how this was possible? #beta-screenshots-videos message
Or whether I should report it as a bug or not
Seems to work like the wax the polluted geyser spews out 
ah i guess i was too hopefull for the umbrella
now its a iap....
I'm no longer in the area with the child, now I appear in a red area that's totally buggy lol
BHAAA i just witnessed this when I came back I-
#beta-screenshots-videos message
if you've minimised the game for a bit the wax which has accumulated from a passive source like the bonfire collects at the same when you return
you're right, the new update solved the problem (。♡‿♡。)
How about the spirits and the space? Will those disappear when the season ends as well and the expressions will never be back?
The spirits are TGC's creations, so they can come back as TS.
Credit skip button is later. This is a good change to avoid missing orbit star. It pops up right after the "Sky" logo starts moving instead of right when the credits start.
We have yellow shell hair clip,blue shell necklace,now we should have a pink shell cape!
Waitttt-
Shellcollector!
thank you!!
Wind at tunnel still pushes you back if you jump. walking and using the inclines as ramps for assistance still works to get in the tunnel though... Just... don't... jump... Or you risk getting blown back pretty far.
When will the summer lights lantern come avalible?
#beta-announcements has your answer 
i think they mean on live?
I think I will never be able to make the last seasonal quest by this eden crash

i managed to finish the quest by luck i guess
it only locked me into the void sky once
well rip, still crash when entering eden 
So sad the Prince statue doesn't stay to make the 64th statue for those with OCD.
16 Max AC a week looks better on paper than 15.75
oh good idea! Maybe they just didn't think of it? or there might be plans to add more statues already
I'm sure the 63 or 15.75 has some significance internally that we don't know, so I don't see that change anytime soon... One can hope, though. 
"crash fixes" bruh android has had the same crashes for the past few builds and it's still not fixed 
I'm on android and haven't crashed...
Seems it's more manufacturer specific than platform.
Yeah, I haven't crashed at all on my Moto
It's never been this way ever, around 2 or 3 builds ago the crashes started happening
Pain 
Please don't forget to submit a new bug report each update so they know the crash fix for your device isn't fixed, yet. Voicing frustration here might help you personally but won't help the devs pin point the issue.
If we can redo Lp quests, redoing the last one would make the statue appear?

Haiiiii! I have a question about the fixes TGC made.
By fixing the gap in eye of eden, what did they mean? What gap? (≧▽≦)
But we can't do the quests again right now. It just played the sad Rose 🌹 cutscenes
it's the gap before the first winged light
I didn't notice any difference with the gap, but that's mainly because of muscle memory and waiting for the flags to show no wind blowing before jumping past it.
Oh thanks 🌸
I thought the 10 minute wax afk timer didn't make it to Live...did it remain on beta all this time?
Yes, it's been in beta this whole time
I deleted data, but it crush when I enter Eden..I'm Android
prairie social space and office
Same thing
so far in sanctuary I have found 7 areas where my game completely crashes constantly and its not sometimes its every time, android player 
That’s going to be a lot of crash reports... 
I will be doing 7, 1 on each realm.
It ain't Sky Beta without crashes

Hey everyone I have a question: according to known-issues we're still unable to jump in the Eye, and return using the shrine will lead to crash, so I'm kinda stuck at the eye rn... Is there any way to be reborn?
so far found 3 in forest, a lot more to go
Jumping is only disabled for the walking part before you hug the kid in the latest version. After hugging, you can use right button to fly up
Ohhh... Okay cuz I've hugged the kid and I can't fly... New bug?
🌄