#beta-discussion
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Gods work
Here it is the cost of an umbrella that will not last that long especially on a windy day it will buckle... 😅
City with absurd economy go brr
can we maybe like uhhhh let tgc know that the umbrella is hella expensive and then maybe the price can go down? I'll buy it if the price goes down at least a little...
You’re a life-saver! I’ll watch it asap
TGC: Umbrella for $19.50, take it or leave it
In MY country, with that amount of money,
I can get a set of painting stuff...
Brushes, canvas and stuff like this...
No...
Really...
Last time when I went on a painting store,
THAT is how much I payed with that money
looks back at past IAP prop prices: 
Sky children of the paying light
With the money I can
Eat an average meal
That’s it
That’s our city’s economy
But still, my money given by my parents can’t cover this much when there’s so many stuff I need to buy like the asteroid cape, the amount of expensive IAPs is driving my wallet to the ground 
Do i have to explain the concept of inflation? 
How much was the IAP cosmetics? I couldn't see it rn 
“need” no you dont “need” to buy anything,,, get your priorities straight my guy
that is also just ur opinion 🤷♀️
with my current knowledge of 3D modeling i think a more fair price would be something like 10$, considering its just an umbrella. i cant complain about other items, for example adventure passes are a good price imo, so i bought 2 so far. and no need to call me pretentious. yea i know theres programming besides the 3D art. still dont think it justifies the price. its just my opinion and other players seem disappointed about the price as well, so no need to attack me
In that store I have mentioned,
there is also a sketch-book which's price is $20!
I know my priorities, if I want to spend then I shall spend, my choice not yours, I have a habit of wanting to collect everything despite the lack of need
But yeah you’re right I don’t need them I just want them LNDKSNDKS
Ehm whaaa
with the money the umbrella costs i could :
- get 4 good pizzas
- get 10 pringles cans
- pay for groceries that would last a week for two people
- buy so many puzzles
- buy so many snacks for my guinea pigs
- while I'm at it, i could buy a literal third guinea pig
- some fine clothes
- a blankey

- a full McDonald's meal
I didn't make that as an excuse, I'm making it a reference that they are rather consistent with the pricing and I greatly doubt they'll change the price of this one
Truth tho
I think what bugs me is the fact that an umbrella is so expensive. We already have 2, and one of them is obtainable through the ts system. For example, the tea set was 20, and it was an ok price as it has some special mechanic.
So ye, to me the umbrella is too expensive as of now, 15 or 10 bucks would be more appropriate
Also, i prefer to buy laptop games instead of buying iap things from in game like sky.
TGC is an american company. Their prices reflect the bills they have to pay. In America.
We’ve had this conversation before about what a certain IAP price can get you in your country. It doesn’t really accomplish anything, other than this channel on a long slowmode.
10-15 bucks for the umbrella sound good? Or just an overall decrease init that could work
Unfortunately, inflation exists. Which devaules currency. And while big companies , such as McDonalds, and other huge brands, can afford to adjust prices for said inflation,
TGC cannot.
Uhm... Bet, we were talking about it rn xD

Ios beta testers , hows eden going? 
i don’t wanna go again after last prince quest 
What’s up with Eden btw I’m curious
Is it just stuff mentioned in #beta-known-issues or are there more 
I could run and jump in the last part, but the flight button was missing in the dark room.
Yes it's true, but if then instead of putting the basic game objects, why don't they put those? So they do not spend money, it would be very simple but they need money, and rightly those from the pass are not enough. It would be enough just to lower the prices, in Italy the umbrella costs more than 20 euros.
That's what testers are here to find out 
Curious to see if it reflects the same on android
I can't even go into eden without crashing 
well that was before this update
I used a chat table spell and it worked wonder! Thought I was going to stuck as I haven’t bought any sitting props.
I didn't have bugs in Beta Eden so I think for now is working, the only thing is that the skykid is very slow
can android update yet now?
Yes spells work fine as well. Glad you managed to ascend 
I believe we'll be notified once the issue about the android update is fixed. keep an eye out in #beta-known-issues
Let the engineers get some sneep snorp, we can wait
Thx! Now I won’t be lazy and buy a permanent chair. Thought I’d be stuck for days.
I only had one table spell.
i just checked and no, we cannot
Any sitting prop spells will do. We have free spells for the days of summer items. Any prop will do but sitting props make it easier to stand on top of them.
Why google? I need da umbrella on beta. 
I need an app for beta testing
I still can't update, google why
Android users, let's migrate to iOS 
Sorry if it came through as attacking. I'm just asking that you form your opinions based on full ideas of something. You mention you know 3d modeling but not the coding or game building part that is essential in the background. Then isn't it wrong to assume something is easy and then form wrong opinion? I'm just trying open up your viewpoint. But I guess I will digress.
In the end.. It is your money. Spend only on things that make you happy. If something seems not worth the money then you can both not spend and not worry about the thing. It only gives you stress. It is how I would deal with things where I have to spend my money.
Have a good day.
see #beta-faq 
Android not being able to update is shown in #beta-known-issues now 
I can't lick #beta-faq
😭why android still can't update
Everyone Android can be more
why this days of summer umbrella moved to iap- :(
Android canUpdated
It was never free, read #beta-announcements
No it free. Isn't 20hearts?
Android beta update will be fixed in approximately 7hrs when tgc staff gets to work
Im like so sad that they made the umbrella an iap its so cute and im so broke
The 20 heart item was a different scrapped item it was a bug. Please read #beta-announcements
impossible
Ahhh it is bad to heard:((
You can share your thoughts in #beta-feedback 
Why can't update in android?
it was always an IAP from the start, we just assumed the null item that costs 20 hearts was the umbrella
WHY GOOGLE?! 
But my Google Store can be updated
Like c'mon man I just wanna test
Is the update showing up for you?
see #beta-known-issues for everyone who cant update beta, please
Well, I'll keep waiting 
I think that Summer Umbrella was Super-rare but Ultimate Gift Lightseeker Umbrella was Extremely-rare so they made IAP and not IGP. That's what I thought. noms neutrally
Yes
Then update it

Wait, wha-?
hey everyone ! Anyone knows if the lantern of last year's summer day is returning ?
The umbrella is more expensive than the prince scarf 🧐🤔
still don't see the update so 
People pointed out the way that summer umbrella works and structure is similar to the jelly umbrella. Maybe that was also a reason why it's IAP. Haven't checked it out myself though
And I'm pretty sure a good chunk of you know why www
the umbrella is a prop
I guess google got the case of update rollout halt again 
Prop?
Oh ok thanks ! Is this normal Lantern isn't in shop yet or my beta is bugging ?
It is not
Scarf is categorised as cape tho. The IAP cape is always this price
The days of summer light hasn't begun in beta yet
The umbrella is not a prop, but rather a functional back item for all I know
prop item, just like the summer lantern, seesaw and swing, teaset
Yesh
Anything in the instrument closet is a prop
Ooh oh haha i seem to have confused days of summer with days of summer lights my bad !
thought there were the same
correct you can hold the umbrella but not place it
Wait, so can I technically say that I have a piano as a prop 
all the back items are technically prop items in the game, except the neck accessories
neck accessories are in a separate category though
Exactly
hi just a question, does the umbrella shield you from krill?
Huh, the more you know 
the umbrella protects you from rain
exactly why I specifically pointed it out since its also under the prop closet
Explain????? Harp is a prop? Is that what you mean?
I've been calling every instrument and any item that you can't place down as back items. Hope I didn't confuse too much people 
Kartoffel just explained it.
everything is a prop
proceeds to hide moff in the closet
is a prop 
I just called them all ‘back accessory’ to avoid confusion 
If you call all back accessory as props, that will be confusing for people
"items"
Umbrella is a prop/back item, is also under the same category as the tea set, seesaw, swing and lantern. these IAPs have been consistent in pricing and is usually $20
capes are usually $15, if you take a look at the snowflake cape, mischief bat cape and spider cape, and other cape IAPs (excluding the charity capes and the asteroid jacket since that one has a special function)
I honestly like the umbrella and the sound when u open and close it. Oh well it’s time to get my wallet again. Owing things in pixels.
and not even owning
we're just licensing virtual items
the 2nd anniversary event has not yet taken place, and there has been no announcement, for the live version, right? I'm so scared I feel like I missed it because we are already the July 7
They announced that the anniversary event will happen later this month in the latest blog post in #news
Currently thinking if we would ever get a 1$ back item/prop it would just be a single small item that does nothing. Like an orange for example
Sky was released July 17 so it doesn’t make sense to have it early July anyway
I remember terming them props when I saw the raw strings of a back item and it was termed props in the game, so I assumed the term
back accessory also works
letsy try this:
props/back accessory ------ decorations
/ |
hand items, instruments, chat items
But...wasn't it 18th July...?
I downloaded it 17th of july@🙈
Gasp! You cheated! 
Gen : Sassy kind meltdown
Beta : Prop name meltdown
Memorialized forever
Awww, I don't have that. Why didn't I take one of those?
You can see it in the App Store under the purchases menu!
Really? Oh, wait, I need to have a look.
Seraph is a fossil confirmed
Also the back items have been referred to as props since they were added to the game in beta
playstore doesn't have a download date 
OH YEAH today is my third anniversary playing sky actually
Its strange, mine still shows the old icon in the app menu 
Happy Sky anniversary!

happy skyversary!
Aw, I downloaded Light Awaits on 3 June 2018, Testflight for iOS beta on 12 August 2018 and Cotl on 18th July 2019.
I missed my 3rd birthday. 😮
Happy skyversary, fossil seraph! 
My anniversary is December 1st 
I am young
Happy Sky Anniversary Seraph !

I'm already 1 year old and already feel weird about it 
that moment you don't know when your sky birthday is
my sky bday is 6. jan!
Did beta fix btw?
I don't know how old I am so like 
A wonderful silent update in beta: audio settings are saved, so when you close the app and launch again you don’t need to manually set your preferences again. I checked Live and it’s not there yet.
man still no android update?
Yea, I ask the same
Hey, do Android get update?
I HAVE TO GO TO EDEN?! THAT LITTLE PRINCE CAN TAME A KRILL BUT CANT TAKE ON EDEN?!
Android peeps are crying 
To be fair neither can we
Alright, since android isnt updating and I seem to have forgotten wheat the numbers were, what was the price for the days of summer items? I think I have enough candles and hearts to test them, but im not sure
Me included
I wish to tame a krill
android download issue is still up and about 
There's no update for Android? ;-;
Beta update for Android will be slower than IOS!
It's been 3 hours
Weeeelllll, android players let's cry together 
and the app says there an update but the playstore doesnt
people are waking up from other time zones 
"I'm still waiting." /ly
44 candles for hat and 20 hearts for bench, right?
the update was up for like 12 hours already
we're still just having android issues
Playstore is always late. Classical
The android update will be fixed when tgc staff gets to work in morning. In about 6 hrs
i wish the umbrella wasnt an iap, weve had so many of those recently
How is it your third when sky isn’t 2 yet?!
It’s in #beta-known-issues 😦
Well riiiiiip
Pre launch beta testing
Ooooo, you a vet vet
Well now I got this song stuck in my head, thanks brain 
I think that's called a doctor /j
imagine some TGC staff starts talking how it's their 6th sky anniversary because they tested whatever existed before light awaits 
Who wants to see my first ever screenshot
MEEEEEE
Me!
give
Also Light Awaits existed before beta even, although only in a few select countries.
Hey guys I’m new here! Does anyone know how to downtown a beta version? Thanks!
Read #beta-faq 
Thanks!
Lol, @lusty light , I can't reply to you in screenshots. I am quite positive there were two exits, but I might misremember. Or maybe they moved it and also changed how it looked?
Pop
I need beta version I'm a small youtuber I want to test & review please help 🙏
Well I don’t have any screenshots of the full map so idk 🥲
Have any android users been able to update the game yet? •́ ‿ ,•̀
Shira probably does. Might go scour the albums.
How to download beta version ?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Please read #beta-faq. It has all of the information there.
No news about beta android?
The answer won't change no matter how many times you ask 
The message box in the lower left corner of the ipad2020pro test server and international server cannot be opened
The android update will be fixed when tgc staff gets to work in morning. In about 6 hrs
Will players with devices like you be like this
Okiessss
No rainbow spells
I think you have to enable chat form settings on phone to chat on ios
Momo!
Rainbow spells are only available on Friday, Saturday and Sundays
hey, I know it's already in live, but did we get any spells for the petit prince iaps? or word about if we'd get some in live?
We still waiting for android beta update?
There are some in live at the Ark.
oh sorry 
that umbrella price 🥲
it cost as much as an AP for 3 people... no way am i gonna be able to get it now
I got my hopes too high up for the Umbrella, I thought I was going to get that fancy and cute umbrella, but it was a huge sad plot twist all along
Tried it and it still doesn't work
well i might buy it anyway, but i don’t see the point when i don’t think friends take rain damage when holding your hand anyway >_>
it's just more frustating because we believed that it costed 20 hearts
I would be less frustrated if I knew it was IAP the first place
A small assumption burned chat into debris
Oh how the tables have turned and my whole day is ruined
well at least casual stance has a free umbrella right
I want yellow umbrella 
Yesterday I was too tired to be sad :D
I’m happy about the hairclip tho, how much was it again? Yesterday I was too tired to see the prices (except the umbrella being $20) 
It has to be a ts first & it doesn’t even match my style
im still in the bargaining stage of grief 
The hairclip is around 2$. Definitely gonna buy it ^^
$1.99
I think there should be 2 iap prices: one with the item only and another with candle bundles (maybe offer more candles than a regular candle pack to make it more appealing to those who are willing to pay more than just the cosmetic iap). Some folks only want the item and not the candles. I think having the candles detached from the iap will make it more accessible to players. What do people think?
the hair clip isn’t really my style and reminds me of a little piece of cheese but i can’t wait to see skykids flying around with it because it’s cute
@tropic radish @timid basalt Yay yay that’s cheap! (And good to know that my memory didn’t abandon me
) so yeah I’m happy about the clip, c’mon guys it’s just really cute AND really cheap :333
candles on iap have no impact on the price, it's just a bonus
/TGC please give us more iGC variety with umbrellas someday
We have the feast table as another variety of the table and a weaker version of the bonfire. It doesn't hurt to have another small umbrella that's not blue, right ? 
honestly i think they should remove the candles altogether, adding candles to items is why the dor flower price was jacked so high (although that was for charity so it’s different)
calling the feast table weak recharge is still overestimating it, that thing is ridiculous 
I disagree. The candle pack is what’s helping to absorb the high cost.
#beta-discussion message
"removing the candles [from an iap item] wouldn't change the price point" ktjn
/Oh no, the feast table is OP on it's own
But I wouldn't dare compare it to bonfire, that's all I'm saying 
yeah there’s no way a hair accessory would cost $30 otherwise
I always thought of it as a candle pack plus flower... 
Mainly because moth me wanted to buy a candle pack but Healing flower was there and I was like “Cool! Candles AND a flower :D” 
I think makes more sense to view it as candle pack with flower than flower with candles
i feel bad for the lightseekers ulti owners , their umbrella got ripped off so badly rip
I am forever stuck in the Eye of Eden, and no game restart could fix it.
I think that sound might be a placeholder...
I can’t believe tgc is this altruistic, to give you €11 worth of free candles.
I'm just saying that for my 150 candles, the recharge time could be at least the same of a shiny child... 
but it is how it is, I at least have a fancy table
it's a very different umbrella 
the flower was the bonus, the 30$ was for charity

Hey is anyone else unable to update beta in the Google play store
Somebody posted a video on #beta-screenshots-videos on how to get out of Eden on this build. You might wanna scroll up tho
the candles in the IAPs are only bonuses, the items themselves are priced like that with or without the candles
the DoR flower was a bonus for donating to charity. you didn't buy the pack for the flower, you donated and got extra freebies
Is it weird how TGC never clarified that the 20 heart item wasn't the umbrella before the IAPs were back?
It was never mentioned anywhere that it is Umbrella tho, in the first place 
i wasnt even gonna question the 20 heart umbrella for a second i thought tgc realized we aren’t exactly made of money 
thats what we get for assuming 
Thank you! I shall find this memory of wisdom and bring myself out.

we just assumed it was, but I'd appreciate more clarity from the getgo as a lot of this discussion is backlash to the umbrella "changing" to iap (which it didn't do, it was always meant to be an iap)
you know what I think is the best deal in sky? the pass, even if we would still work a lot to drain everything from it
and the nintendo pack: you get acces to one area (it's not that exciting for me, sorry), two capes, one neat hair and an instrument, that's the most generous deal from how I see it
because honestly, the founders cape isn't worthy for me even with those candles and the jacket cape is just pretty with a pretty area
this is just my opinion tho
20 heart was a null item, it never existed
it was the players who quickly assumed it was meant for the umbrella even to it was always an IAP
when a digital umbrella is more expensive than an irl umbrella 😻
Assumption causes Misinformation
Seeing the umbrella as IAP makes me sad as much as you nonetheless T-T)
But TGC just let the rumour spread and didn't even say anything
The irl lightseekers umbrella : laughs in 80$
From the beginning beta is something you can’t trust.
not even our beta buddies here 
i want the shell
thats the only iap im getting
Because they didn't catch it probs
They can't be on here 24/7 www
Rumours spread like wildfire, and TGC can't be there at all times
It's a shame they managed to miss that tho www
Can't trust Beta 100%
Same reason goes on why we shouldn't share beta pricings outside of here
Trust no one, not even yourself 
im not mad that i was fooled about the price i just wish there weren’t so many IAPs back to back
if that makes any sense
money hungry basically
looks at MOTD scheds yes
kind of miss when sky had like... more time in between events where nothing happened
thats a bit of a stretch
Events are becoming more and more frequently in general lately 
Exactly and everybody assumes it’s because we were fooled but I just wanted the umbrella to be at least like 5 dollars instead of 20 dollars
Y'all remember TGC needs a lot of money for dev's salary, game development and lots more
we had mid season although there was days of rainbow
no tgc has always been like this. putting mediocre items as the most expensive ones. just like how they planned to make people pay an extra $60 for the iaps on little prince.
yeah i’m just like Tgc please .... people sink their money on candles and AP already i think it’s fine to have a little more breathing space
do you guys know where is the prince location at hermit hill?
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
Events are getting more frequent than usual, but it's almost the same recipe everytime
- cosmetics to buy
- one or two things change somewhere for wax
I would beg for TGC to never Collab again, IAP wise/hj
all iap back accessories (apart from the fox) have been $20 to date, yellow umbrella price follows this trend 
The season is different than others because of copyright reasons, it was explained earlier.
It's a shame that they have to pay for copyright, yeah :( /joke
What the person above me said
It's a collab, they had to pay in order to acquire certain rights to use certain assets.
It's not like they can pay with virtual candles and virtual hugs to the owners of the assets used.
yeah but then what was the point paying $10 for only getting a small chunk of the cosmetics?
/s*
call me crazy but i don’t think that the previous back items were worth $20 either
they never clarified that that was final
it was in beta and they even changed it
if you truly believe tgc is just money grabbing company then they shouldn't have changed anything and just placed everything in IAPs,
maybe make a paywall in Isle as a cherry on top
Still no Android update? 
old man voice: in my time there was only founders cape and leaf green Cape... but everything changed when the summer lights lantern came 
feast table? that was not an iap
feast table wasnt iap tho??
Oh lol sorry i’m like half asleep
feast table wasn't an IAP
At least we managed to knock off 24.99$ of the suggested iaps (14.99 sword pants moved to 200 regular candles and 10$ cheaper scarf pack with pj becoming an UG)
Yes but? They only changed it because of protesting & an angry beta chat. Ofc we know it’s never final, it’s literally beta. But it was going to be final if we didn’t get them to change it
me trying to remember the outbreak that happened from the first few IAP's for the little prince season
exactly they only changed cuz people complained
now its time to do that with the umbrella 
ok why did I get a ping from Ktjn where is the message bruh
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
It proves that Tgc listens to feedback
but its exactly why were beta testing these things....
There was a mutual agreement on how the items will be arranged between tgc and the company that manages the author's copyright. So tgc can't really make everything like they want. I'd suggest you make an exception while thinking about iaps 
Let's keep dropping feedback regarding the umbrella
If we can't remove the IAP, at least switch the umbrella with another event item :0c
No wait that means we'd have to sacrifice the hat no wait bad Idea bad ide--
well if they don’t change the price of the digital umbrella then idk what to tell u
beta exists for feedback, and if they never planned to listen to us then they shouldn't have shown us the prices
point of the matter is its a bit of a stretch quickly accusing TGC as money grabbing
Tgc at least drop the price or make it like 200 candles or something
Keep flying towards the sun and you’ll find him on a little island kinda thing.
i thought the iap was the floating chat bench at the water

i mightve reported someone who sat there bc i thought they did bad stuff to get it
Yes
...again? 
Or do you mean it rewards 200 candles, not cost?
Bro- 
I think tgc intentionally made the LP items ridiculously high so that when we complained, they could lower them and seem like the good guys. Because overall, if you want all the cosmetics its gonna set you back about $70. Which is still ridiculous
TGC listens - just because they need money doesn’t mean they don’t care about us 
Just don't get too excited to do a kind of revolution in beta chats because of iaps: it's quite an utopical thought and while necessary to question and discuss, it's absolutely not necessary to overwork yourself for a bunch of expensive pixels
After all, it's not the first time nor the last that TGC will give expensive items for us to see
Omg no- you buy it for 200 candles. It’s better than buying it for 20 dollars
thank youu 
that was last week 
submit constructive feedback in #beta-feedback
Why does half of the sky community always assumes? The price is to pay for copyright, yet you arent obligated to buy it
seriously, i feel like if the iaps were like $5 or something they would get more purchases and more money overall because it wouldn't be so ridiculously expensive for people who live in other countries or live paycheck to paycheck
do tell that to the staff they have to feed/j
It's business. And copyright is no easy game :(
If the prince had no copyright, maybe all of the prince items could've costed way less :+
that would be a waste of development time, and the beta testing community doesnt even make 1/4 of the entire player base
dude that’s exactly wat i was thinking. if they made stuff cheaper more would buy = profit??????!!!
It’s a collab why would they need to pay for copyright 
Assumptions are valid but please keep it respectful towards everyone. We don't know all the bts so don't stretch it too much. 
Oh so I got it right...
Well I think an umbrella for a lowered price of $15 would be better than having to pay 200 candles after the Sword pants and Rainbow cape 
I'm just glad we now get IGC content together with the usual IAPs in Events such as Days of ____
these events original only had IAPs in the past
Cause the little prince is copyrighted, according to the law www
but like,,, why would they?? They said the complaining got out of hand?? And it’s a collab…??
For the very reason that it is a collab 
I can’t even buy it for money so for me it’s better as 200 candles or whatever
I agree,like the orange accessory during the Days of Fortune.That was my first IAP and I saw a lot of people buying that.
But I think we had enough expensive IGC things, it should be 100 at highest.
...or else my friend + many others will destroy their health for grinding, which is not good 
anyone here has the beta testing invite for ios?
Time to time some iaps are cheap, but mostly only the small cosmetics get priced $1-$4
tgc should consider that not everybody spends money on games
please see #beta-faq 
okay, ty !!
Yeah tell that to 3 others waiting here at 8 player door
But it's one of their only source of income, you don't have to buy it if you can't.
if the event happens to overlap with the season, i feel like people would complain about it because theres another item that costs 200 candles
sadly they cant make everyone happy
Thats true. But look at the IAP items. Then look at the AP items. Its like they didn't even try with them. You would think they would prioritize the actual AP not the side purchases
its sad that this is supposed to be a game to escape reality and the harshness of adult life when recently we've been bombarded with iaps
(this isn't supposed to be hateful im just stating what i'm seeing)
they did, theres already items for igc (beach chairs, lovely summer hat)
TGC isn't that naive to the point that they don't know that
They're doing this for more than a year, managing this game for more than 3 and dunno how long they're a company in itself :pFIRE:
I like the AP Items tho, we got LP Ults too
But if you want it it’s a problem because you can’t, it’s not fair & tgc is a company they can own money other ways than a stupid 20 dollar umbrella
didn't try?
I love the cap
I wanted the umbrella most
The thing is, the IAP gives an advantage (Umbrella protects from rain)
Do we have NS players in this chat? I know NS beta concluded but this channel is to evaluate and test planned future features and also content. I’d be curious what they think about the iap prices, provided most Switch games are bought during massive eshop sales.

True, but it's how Tgc wants to earn money. We can't control them
There’s another umbrella that you don’t have to spend money on if it comes as a ts
For once skybot is actually right on reactions
This can easily be countered by the laidback pioneer umbrella though :(
umbrella doesn't really affect much
You mean LePetitBot? 
Also, even if people would be happy it’s 200 candles, they could grind to get everything which is very unhealthy, I don’t want that to happen, Rainbow Cape and Sword Pants already hit people (especially collectors I guess) hard enough 
Man I wanted the umbrella so much ;3; it's even a nice yellow that would fit my current outfit, I already spent money on the new cape-
As a person who has the pioneer umbrella, I suggest investing in the torch instead
Much more worth it www
while it can protect us from rain, we hide it when burning plants
its a hassle actually 
LePetitBruh 
we could just, erm, look away from the IAPs, it's not like they're necessary for completing a season, chilling by some place or making some friends
doesn't even give you an edge against anything,
plus using an umbrella for CR is extremely annoying
i own both umbrellas, in my experience theyre not really that useful
theyre good for pictures, so i dont take one with me unless im doing a photoshoot or smth
I get your point, maybe 100 candles max would be good
The free hat for candles is a nice yellow too.. Has a bouncy bow on it too
Haha umbrella go randomly closes
Open close open close open close-

Yeah 
That's your opinion for the umbrella, but people have theirs too
You guys have an umbrella?
I only carry my ts umbrella because it's kinda neat and I like the lil bug with emotes
I don't even use it in forest actually
I think if that umbrella can be improved, if we holding umbrella and burning dark plant at the same time, the umbrella won't close itself it could be more worth with $20
I knoowwww!! Even the yellow seashell, like-- it all didn't have to be IAP's, they're so lovely
The IAPS are just clothes…
Umbrella +
umbrella flies out of hands 
sometimes I close my eyes and imagine my skykid constantly smacking a dark plant with the umbrella and then proceeds to continue CR
I usually don’t even take torch with me on forest CR despite literally flying everywhere in forest 
You know, we could always ask to switch the umbrella with the hat if you guys are willing to
It's a bad idea, but if you're desperate, try sending that into feedback
Are iaps good because they are iap or are they iap because they are good 
Pixels, more precisely
Pixels that one day won't be available to use anymore when the game shuts down
But that's a more depressing thought, so I wouldn't go that far lol
That's terrible
Omg no that would be worse-
yeah they’re just clothes, and the game isn’t all about cosmetics but it stings to see new content all the time that you can’t get 
No way am I spending 20 bucks for a literal umbrella, the 20 hearts was far more worth my time
I'm fine with spells of both either way
wait no, my hat, No
It was never going to be 20 hearts tho
noooo not the hat 
See
At the end TGC has to put something that's 20$ into IAP to feed the developers and their families at the end :(
with all due respect, this is the first time we're getting an accessory hat that isnt greatly affected by clipping, i wouldnt change it for the world 🙈
..Mkay-
Le sniff google why
Oh yeah, the hat is an accessory
People will go wild with it haha
Of course Giccix, I did mention it being a very bad idea anyways 
at least the hat is cute and the beach chairs items too
Was the tassel affected with the clipping update? I don't have it in beta
It's the same with all multiplayer games now , most games sell items/ skins / exclusive limited skins of characters , it's all behind IAP . It doesn't affect the actual game content or event. And it's pretty normal
it was always an IAP, it was just missing due to bugs
Tgc is a company, the umbrella doesn’t give them that much money compared to other things. Also consider little prince season and the ap + all the iaps
PLS THE HAT IS SO CUTE cottagecore vibes
👍 good decision. I probably will get just the hat. Or not cuz I have the other hat from sanctuary in satisfied with.. 🤔
Yeah
And then people compare it to gacha :pFIRE:
20 hearts for the umbrella is worth it (I know it was an Iap all along) I hope TGC reconsiders the price as $20 for an umbrella is absurd pricing
All depends on what ya wanna go for mate
But it’s one umbrella for 20 dollars and it’s limited ofc
the hat will probably be behind a paywall in a few days too
20$ could only buy the devs a meal there. It's crazy-
As someone who's been playing video games for over a decade (mainly nintendo but still), yes
Was the last umbrella an IAP?
You're too negative
maybe for revenue tgc could make an OPTIONAL "ad channel" where you could tune into a continuous stream of ads from the shop menu that would fund tgc without all of the iaps that they've been giving out. i mean this as there would be no pop up ads in the game like it currently is, but if you go to the shop tab you could click on something and the game could ask you "do you want to watch ads to help support tgc? you can exit at any time!" and then boom. if you're in the shower or something, you can support tgc at the same time! (sorry if this doesn't make a lot of sense i just woke up, i don't mean this in a way that makes it seem like we would get random ads, watching them would be completely voluntary and not forced at all)
edit: whoah that came out a lot longer than i thought it would
at least we don't have a limited edition Legengary Skykid

It won’t, the umbrella was always going to be an IAP, it didn’t get “changed” why would they randomly decide to change the hat to be IAP too?
if they change the hat to iap there would be a riot
wait no, no ads in sky 
I'm not getting it, expensive for it's use and I don't care about cosmetic collecting that much. It's probably better for my wallet anyways. In the end, these things are just pixels that gives temporary happiness. Doesn't mean other can't get it. How it's worth is up to you
careful, tgc is listening 
YES LETS BOTH PUT THIS IN UM THE FEEDBACK CHANNEL
That one yellow umbrellas has better chances of coming back next year however. It's rare, but not ultimate gift-kind of rare www
Adopt a moth NPC for $100
It's still in beta tho, it could be still possible to change
True
I would never accept swapping the Summer Parasol with the Summer hat, no, 
Imagine you're flying in prairie village and a banner circles the the sky... "buy xxx product at 20%discount. Use code SKY20"
I don’t have a option to buy it, unless it costs way less money or perhaps just costs in game currency then I won’t be able to get it even if I really wanted to
No, im being realistic. Most event based glorified items end up behind paywalls. Maybe not all, but a huge chunk of them.
proceeds to press uninstall 
I'm still bit upset over scarf cape not being an ult, but I know it's behind copyright, so it's okay
I can't imagine any item getting swapped with the parasol other than the hat, so yeah
I'm content with what we have now www
when was the last time they turned an igc item into an iap 
It's okay, we can all hope for another version of an umbrella or start saving up for next year
Tgc isn’t going to put the hat as a iap,, it’s meant to be part of the spirit tree
The cape I personally found the smidge more worth it simply due to it being a unique cape type, all slim
i think it’s less a copyright thing and more that the other company needs their share of revenue from the collab too
Santa hat, but for a reason
Hmm, could the Santa hat count ?
Maybe not, because it was paid before and the change was reasonable, but still
santa hat was initially an iap tho
Is it normal that I don't have access to the update yet?
Something like that yeah, I don't really understand this kind of stuff
But to spend another 20 bucks, just for the umbrella? Like, so soon after? Barely givinf breathing room at this point
is sassy really won't in beta ?
I have to wait until the 4th time 🥲
TGC we need more IGC umbrellas. The fire in this chat is your calling--
I'm hopeful they'd listen to their fans in some compacity with this
It’s both, the devs need to pay for the rights to use the characters and they cannot bring back the iap in any way without paying for the rights again
Wish there were umbrellas in assembly, forest seasons are perfect for them
santa hat was originally an IAP, they planned it to become and IGC the next time it came around but people were angreeee so its back as an IAP again
Option to disable shop icon so i don't have to look at it and feed into my cravings. 
Now Playing: Garakuta Doll Play (uncut Edition) 
is there anyone who hasn't gotten an update yet on android?
@fierce drift I don't have access too

reject shop and shop trick 
And my buddy who is new was saving up for the umbrella will have no chance to get it now since its 8 times the amount in her currency.

Reject it , accept feeding wl to krills 
Well, if the summer umbrella stays as iap, I'm not getting it. I'd be fine with Pioneer's umbrella any day, plus he's the spirit who left 3-4 days before I started playing, so I'd love to see him as a ts again
that’s what i’ve decided too, it’s sad but it’s just how it is 
still no update for android? 
That's the worst case scenario ever 
I can't update
I wonder how much beach ball spells will I be able to stock up in live before I get broke
I hope the spell stays in Ark even if the event is over
i can’t wait to kick the ball around with moths ^_^
I haven't tested the other props yet, I will when I can 
can't wait to just place the ball in prairie and watch moths kick it around
They could make a beach ball a prop in place of umbrella
I can understand how u guys feel I missed out on many desirable IAPs due to lack of funds, but I just tell myself it's just game items, it's not essential in my life. Money is hard to come by in life, sometimes I think i have to use it wisely and prioritize my life first. And in the end , i can still play sky happily without those things.
can some1 dm me a pic of what the kpop hair looks like with the summer hat by any chance
Days of Summer is the obligatory Beach episode in Sky
wait does Sanct season count
wat Am i missing something
i think its not allowed to ask that kind of thing, trust me, I once did too
Let's look on the bright side
Even if you can't get certain cosmetics in live because money you can at least have it for free in beta
While we don’t actually have to get the cosmetics, I’d prefer if TGC didn’t have so many expensive items. It does get discouraging when we see so many holidays and they cost so much money
Yeah, I can hardly get money. I really wanted the ocean cape, but I'm fine without it, even though I hardly have any blue cosmetics
why ???
huh
Beta is for testing purposes after all, so IAPs are free
Im certainly happy we get IGC items now in events other than the IAPs, even if I can't afford the IAPs 
Bruh discord just crashed I 
"FYI Beta players, please do not honor these requests for outfit screenshots. The beta channels are not here for people to come asking for previews, and pictures honoring these requests may be deleted without warning.
FYI Non-beta players, please do not come to beta channels making requests like this. This is a social space for beta players, and you are free to lurk, but not to beg previews."
ohhh
Edit: Thank you 
oh i didn’t see that i’m sorry there’s too much to read there
Edited! Very sorry Harbin
I know, I'm mostly just saying that because even if you can't buy something you can still have access to it in another form, in this case being beta
Which is better than nothing imo
I'm happy were getting new content more frequently
Mini games would be lovely
arent there waves that get rid of everything you own?
Ermm is it normal that I still cannot update my beta on Android? It usually available to be updated in an hour after the update is released
Sky volleyball?
Gotta keep the game going with content, but maybe at a slower pace
updating the list: the masses don't read pins, channel descriptions, patchnotes, update logs, and known issues 
tgc took my house and kids in the item wave
The new beach ball makes me wanna have a volleyball game
Ur not the only one that doesn't have the update check the #beta-known-issues
Me after possible progress wipe:
Goodbye, beta progress 
well it makes sense, if you got to keep everything, everyone would just move to beta full time
I don't have friends in beta because of this, because I don't wanna get attached 
Bruh I'm already attached to my beta skykids if a progress wipe happened I would just 
I can't be any of them in live yet
Me too
Imagine if a progress wipe comes in September 
Hey Android gang
Is Beta available for download now?
.
Aight thank you!! 
i still can’t find the part where it says ur not allowed to ask for outfit screenshots in pins am i seriously blind
I ate it 
LePetitBot ate it 
oh it’s THERE.
HELLO, NO update for Android ?
For some reason androids are unable to update right now sorry for the inconvenience
Greatttt -_-
But on the bright side they’re working hard to get it fixed so be patient! And know that you are an awesome individual
Dead chat rn
🛏️ 
It's beta testing discussion not beta general chat. But apparently...
Every time I see Zhongli pfp I go 👁️👄👁️
GOOD
I could use a sneep snorp rn since it's 9:47 pm here in 🇵🇭 
I agree with this
Yeah
android just has to be patient,, tgc said it could take to more than 12 hours which is fine because they too have stuff to do
update was supposed to be out for like 12 hours actually 
its less because they have stuff to do but more because they are literally just waking up from sleep and isn't in work hours yet
It's like 7 am for tgc, their shift starts at 8 am for them iirc
why did i think the wood at the campfire were uncooked hotdogs 😂
Is android available to update?
noo
mhmmmmmmm the summer umbrella is IAP and im sad, my one shot at an umbrella and poof
there's still the TS umbrella so don't worry
yeah heres hoping he showed up last in November 26, 2020, no spirit except sassy has shown up three times
I still can't update 😑 well I guess I can sleep until it arrives 😂
Is it just me or are the winds in eden too strong?
Like I can barley move. I walk and just get blown back
Mine is not available to update yet 😭
Especially if I have to climb something
is ||eden|| walk speed meant to be molasses or is this a bug that carried over?
I didn't even did any small jumps when ||Last little prince quest|| happened. only do weeeery sloooooow
Yes
Where I used to be able to jump a step before now I need to try 3 times and I might be able to reach the door before our beloved Krill notices me
I want to update so baaaad!😭
Apparently it (eden) was intentional? But had more effect than intended 
I mean, if they're gonna make those adjustments, in my opinion they should have tested it in beta before because that's why we have beta and not put it in live right away
But that's just me
Sometimes updates need to push out on schedule , and unintended things may get into live. Usually a hotfix will come afterwards.
it was in beta but nobody was sure if it was intentional
Me when my kid automatically jumps when I walk: 
Waitttt that’s an idea
Whaaa nooooo
Is it the same in live??
suffer and keep going
Well, I did have issues jumping small steps in live 
My skykid refuses to walk-
oh no
Nooo it’s like the very end after you die
reset the game lol
And hug the dude you need to jump to break free outta your statue
I'll be fair here
I went to Eden to die
So I can accept big boss door krill™ taking a few shiny boys
Did they fix the Eden speed? I can't test until Google releases the update 
The Beta shows there's new update. but in Play Store, we still didn't gets any update. I'm sad :')
I just oob through the section with the krill door and usually skip the one in the area, but get the 9 in the corridor. Theyre planning on adjusting eden though i believe since it had more effect than intended!
Same, not there on android yet, try clearing cache, but I don't think it's been approved by Google yet
No beta for me today :stickerTired:
My friend got the update on her Play Store. But the play store said "Something went wrong. Please try again." I'm-
This is agony
Such pain B(
That's beta 
Try being Edenlocked for a month

It's reminding me of when beta was first getting the update applied, android got the Prince testing season 12 hours late if not later and its happened again 
ACK
I think Google just needs to approve it, but it could be hours until then becuase the tgc staff are asleep (I think)

Maybe?
Think so, timezones are weird
It's currently 8 am for tgc 
I mean tgc's timezone is 8 hours behind mine.. So it's 8am iirc
I make it around 8am for them
I think we'll need to wait for 4-5 more hours 
It's whenever they get back into office right?

I'll just try at night and play other games instead, I guess
Rip.. no umbrella :')
Imma play genshin in the meantime bye bye 
Android beta out yet?
No
i also cant update ;-;
Aight thank you!! 
How much is the weasel mask
48!
weasel wont be coming to beta due to the event we are testing
YYYYYAAAAAAYY
I can't afford it rn anyway so this works out
Eden locked for a month? How? 
I'm seriously so sad about the umbrella. 😭
RIP Android 😶
REACTIONS MY BELOVED

Fwiw, I'm now doing Eden and so far up until point of no return tunnel, it seems like earlier when we weren't pushed back so hard all the time. So that's good.
Androids, are we downloading the update yet?
your status scares me ||i have him >:)||
Nope 
Can I ask some questions about the rose in here or no
If you mean the ultimate gift, you can ask in #questions-and-help or #seasons-events-chat now since the season is live
Okay thank you
I went into Eden with 117 wl and I've now given light to all the ones before the constant rain, I believe. I was pumelled and became grey, but could still jump.
I think I reached the last statue at around 6 wl. Didn't notice any marked difference in walking speed, it seemed to be back to normal. Still can't skip in dark room, though. I suppose that was the 5%?
Will the update be available tomorrow?
no one knows until TGC says that it's available to download it so, keep an eye out for beta updates 🌚
#beta-known-issues they will be working on it, but it may take some time still to get it fixed. It's not quite 9 am in California yet, so they are probably just starting to get online for work and look at the problem soon
So, from 117 wing lights I got about 14 AC, which feels perfectly fine. I would say Eden is back to normal again. Slow walk only exists in the dark room.
Nice! Yeah I'm guessing what they meant for the story was the slow walking in the dark room, since that would make sense I guess if you're supposed to be dead, until you hug the other sky child and have your light restored
Guys is there something interesting in the sandstorm area of the new season?
It's used for one of the upcoming quests, otherwise the wind walls prevent you from getting there
Thanks I'm still missing 2 quest :3
I am so happy to read this. Thanks for sharing🙏
Keep in mind I play on iOS 12 with a PS4 controller. Handheld might give a different experience. But overall it seems fine now. 🙂
Yeah I will. I will test for myself when android can update 😊
I needed a double eden to get all, but dissapearing objects and statues in one and two bolts in certain camera angles didn't help for sure.
Rocks in the beginning made me lose 4-3 wings within one hit.
I was on the lookout for those disappearing objects, but it never happened to me.
how much is the price for summer lantern?
🔸Days of Summer Lights Lantern—Lantern prop item and 35 Regular Candles—$19.99 USD
- from #beta-announcements
You are the chosen one for eden
It always works correctly for you
ahh thank youu
Man i gotta collect seasonal candles and cr for sword pants 
Buuut...when I collected the winglight in the cave in Isle...I am suddenly invisible at certain angles!
Eden bug was late from the party then only mamifesting in Isle😂
the summer hat is by far the cutest sky item I’ve seen
Did you use table to be able to fly up Blep? In dark room i mean
Pff I have to wait because I'm an android user xD
softly holds all summer items
I’m just hoping for the seasonal area music to be added... even prophecy caves had their own music ;-; why can;g little prince season have it
No, just pressed X on the controller and up I went.
So you can jump with controller uhh. Nice touchscreen cant jump
Yeah, X is both jump and rise (if long pressed).
Two hand mode didn't have jump button on screen bas i heard, but one hand doesn't need a button for that and i was still unable to jump with that. Anyways good to know it works at least with one method.
Yes, I remember reading you had problems with that.
Oh, well, off to bug report my invisibility...
Still no update?The long wait for updates on android happens more often than I expected
OBJECTION 
I looked through all photos and found 0 ugly people
When will the test suit qualification be reissued?
📱iOS/Android: Learn about the sign-up process and how to get notified when invites happen in #beta-faq!
Switch: The Switch Beta testing period has ended with Live launch. All future content testing will be conducted on Mobile only.
Not for live no
September is still summer
The last day of Summer is September 21 in the northern hemisphere
Autumnal Equinox isn't until September 19-22 depending on the sun's position that year. (this year is 22nd)
Oh the server hit 300k members, that's why everyone's nicknames are like that

True, technically Autumn doesn't begin until the 21st, but September doesn't feel like Summer any more than December feels like Autumn.... Winter doesn't start until the 21st then either.
It surely feels like summer here...
Days of Summer (somewhere not here) ™
Same Uzephi
July and August are the heart of Summer. Or the heat of. Or the hell of. Depending where you live 🤣
Technically true but most of my life September doesn't felt summer thanks to back to school / work thing etc. I think it counts as off season for summer travelling too. Anyways its hard to relate to a beachy scene when you are deep in work already for me
Hope it comes sooner.
Speaking of days of summer. It would be nice to have these themed event at apt places within sky.. Like days of summer is best suited for my boi Chill Sunbather to host the event ☀ 😎 🏖 @ 
That's an awesome idea. He'd be so cute in front of the sandcastle with the beach chair and giant umbrella
Too chill to bother hosting an event 
That's why the new hat will be there hanging from the corner of that laid back beach chair.. While chill sunbather doesn't bother to stand like other spirits that come selling merch
Hello,off topic of the current conversation but I'm stuck in ||Eden|| cuz there's no jump button, for anyone that has encounter that bug, what was the solution?
is anyone else a bit sad that the umbrella is IAP?
Please scroll up and read the discussion from 8hrs ago
oop-
You will find most of your answers there.
Does anyone know if there's a way to move forward to the orbit? I'm stuck under the map in a reddish area after going home and trying to finish to proceed to the orbit
Place a prop into the light beam run on it then run down from it. Falling down is enough ‘air’ time to get you dragged up.
Go home, chibi glitch into eden gate climb the whole thing again and die in stormlock again.
#beta-discussion message
By spearmonkey
thanks
thank so much I'll check it out
thank you so much I'll try that!
Tgc be releasing so much IAPs
Btw anyone else gets reborned with one wing short than before? i reborned with 74 two times today (i got orbit wing both times) and I was reborning with 75. (I only know it because 74 is 7 flaps, 75 is 8 flaps so it was noticable enough.) the last ts wing doesn’t count anymore or what could be the missing piece?
Yay, I managed to avoid getting faceplanted in GW - opened my summer umbrella after first cutscene skip, and it slowed the fall significantly so I nicely glided in and over GW 👍🏻 La Petite Poppins 😆
I wish IAP items has unique feature so its worth it the money and useful ingame and not just another props that will end up in the closet for a long time
Oh so it wasn't just me then! I thought I was one wing buff short.
Genuine question : what ability would you want with the umbrella that would justify the cost?
Up to the company ...i am jst a costumer
Ok then do give your voice in the #live-feedback feedback that you would like to see more usable IAPs. If you have already done so thanks! Hope many more join your voice to be heard
nahcira, seeing as you were here earlier and very active in the discussion about IAPs, including being told to calm down, it seems you are now trying to stir something up again. That's not really what this chat is about.
Soften the wind strength in Eden could be one 😂
Can we still not update it?
The umbrella will rip away and become unusable after that... Is that OK? 
Next update: having umbrella out in eden makes you fly away marry poppins style.
That would actually be so awesome.
Good thing i got the blue umbrella
Sky
MarryPoppins
Little Prince has flock of white birds, umbrella is only fair 😂
"I'm Mary Poppins y'all!"
fly down but with style
It will be reborn with me 😂
I believe I’m one wing shorter too but I can’t remember the exact number after last ts
Lol.. Umbrella with diamond 🔹 patterns for Wing light... U give ur extra WL to it 
I wouldn't call them unique but it's their function
🔹Days of Bloom Tea Set - Chat Item
🔹Days of Love Swing - Chat Item
🔹Days of Love Seesaw - Chat Item
🔹Days of Summer Umbrella - Protects you and your friends from rain.
IAP Capes, imo, capes shouldn't have any unique functions aside from, well, being pretty. Exception of which are the ff:
Switch capes
Asteroid Jacket
Founder's Cape
I'm fairly sure I am caught up with Live wing buffs and that I have the same amount in both games. I remember thinking it was odd I only had 73+1 when leaving Eden before this update also.
Asteroid cape is the best
We are onto something here! Imagine if you could level up your / customise your gear every time you are in Eden! 😍
Speaking of uses... Has anyone tried sitting down with the summer umbrella open.. While in sneak stance?
as a krill approaches? 🤔
Get your brain juices going. Write up something for the wishlist!
I would try it and sacrifice my stars for science but can't update yet 
Same... Waiting for update 
Wish theres a bag that i can carry two useful items
Re to Nomad:
But I don't think it will have that function, cos let's face it, it's gonna be OP (overpowered)
long wait for the update ಥ‿ಥ
Pardon what's OP?
The pipe is overpowered by that standard then. It protects from krills now. yes it is a sunny day! 😊
Shhh, they'll fix that if you bring attention to it. 
Also the tent if you place it at correct slant angles I think
it worked! thank you so muck 🥺 🖤
You’re welcome, glad it did
Why tgc change the sunflower into a seashell pin
We don't know we test what is available to test. Plus there never was a sunflower released for testing
Going to try that now 
There were no sunflower to begin with what is currently presented to testers.
What you saw is probably a hacked content which shouldn't be discussed further and if you met the player in-game, best to report them
Will all IAPs in this season come back? Asteroid jacket too cause it’s like office cape
No, most of these items are contract based and will only be offered throughout the duration of the season
No sadly but good because it will be worth it since its never coming back 
I always have this thougt that when theres a new IAP am bout to buy i think of what if theres better items in the future and then u dont use it anymore because they might release better items
Check out 0.14.0 Live Patch Notes and as the season is now on Live, best to ask at #questions-and-help
Look for the season subheading. It is all detailed there
Well that worth to buy. But yeah. Very expensive lol
It will comeback it only says there that it wont return thru "TS" except the swordpant it wont comeback unless place in IAP
None of the copyrighted LP cosmetics will ever come back
once season concludes in live both they and the prince will leave the game forever
Can u show me where they said that IAP wont comeback?
Wait how am i gonna farm candles for the mask i really wanted from the TS if they forced the update

Wait. But those spirits will still come back right? As ts
Anyone else also got problems updating trough TestFlight? The download for the update is getting canceled constantly :<
So that Includes the seasonal ultimates (lp hair, lp green pajamas, rose), the IAP scarf, IAP fox, IAP asteroid cape, and sword pants. The ts will come back. Was all this correct?
They might sell the scarf , fox , asteroid again for new players in the future if someone req... just like seasonal IAP they sell it again for new players
Oh? Where did you read that?
It can be a connection problem i didnt have any issue with testflight this time.
@marble cipher use this in search tool
from: Ktjn#8721 copyrighted
u will find several messages stating what i said
TGC doesn't have the ability to do that without the permission of the trademark owner. It's highly unlikely the Expury Estate allows the selling of the IAPs after the season ends.
For example the swing the holloween stuff IAPs they sell it again
Hey guys
Is the yellow umbrella from days of summer iap?
Those things were not under any copyright.
yes
Isn't that for days though? We've never had a seasonal IAP before
My wifi is completely fine so I don’t think it’s the connection 
Always has been
#beta-discussion message
By spearmonkey
It is all explained in http://bit.ly/SkyPatch0140
Please check the patch notes above(look for the heading "Season of the Little Prince").
because that is TGCs copyrighted item
the scarf/pants/asteroid jacket are copyrighted by LPP IP holder and not TGC thats why tgc cant bring them back unless they negotiate another contract
Does it work?
Seasons don't repeat and it would be weird and illegal if TGC sells a trademarked items, that isn't owned by TGC, when their collab contract already lapsed.
Looks like no cute umbrella for me
- Sigh * if the next spirit isn't the umbrella spirit
Am quiting life
Tried and it doesn’t work
The krill still spots you 
fun facts
candle running without the umbrella takes less time
torch is much more usefull than the umbrella
tho umbrella is an aesthetic
I only see there that it wont return as TS it ddnt said that it wont return or they wont sell it again in the future
Even with umbrella I end up not using it when candle running forest 
Do read it in full.
Yea your right but it does protect me from the rain whenever I cr in forest
@marble cipher use this in search tool and you will find several messages by Ktjn stating that they wont be selling them again
from: Ktjn#8721 copyrighted
Oke oke
Maybe try to delete the sky beta app after linking your account ofc and try to download it again from testflight? Sometimes it helps.
Sigh. Ts for llp will came back as the character are not directly design from the book. "Inspired" .Ultimate Gift and IAP are 100% won't came back due to copyright. If they negotiation with the copyright holder maybe it can
I try
thank
Clear some stuff to make some free storage. It downloaded real quick for me this time. Sometimes it auto cancel when you don’t have enough free room on your device.
It’s not storage, I have a lot of free space, but thank 
it does
however if you have more than 7 flaps it isnt vital for you
i find torch muchmore usefull cuz when im almost out of light i not only am protected from the rain , but also am being recharged
Touches are most overpowered thing in the game
Does the torch actually protect you from the rain? I figured as a stick it must be rather slim to hide anything beneath it
There's also a lot of recharge spots at Hidden Forest even if you don't own a torch
You can make it as portable recharge station when on eden
no if its not ignited
if its ignited it recharges u even under the rain
It's not very effective but at least it works.
Ignited & Ignis
two seasons have repeated
Please don't post about breaking the ToS.
sarcasm
fun fact
ignis means fire on latin
Those were from beta before the game came out. Seasons have never repeated in live
Ignis is a funeral service company in my country
Only negotiation are the only way to sale it again
The umbrella is such a struggle for me since it's the only back cosmetic I really ever wanted, and I missed the opportunity when I joined as an enchantment moth but really started grinding and playing during dreams. I've always had this rule where I would not spend money on anything to challenge myself and show others that you can look good in Sky without paying. But this umbrella tho... It even fits my aesthetic.... I might have to actually she'll out cashola for this sadly
Follow ur heart
just kidding! it's your decision. if you think it's worth it then go for it for sure
Wait the umbrella ts from lightseeker
Yes, that is if both parties will agree upon it.
Does the Beach Umbrella work in shared spaces? Like if you put it in the prairie one with a little chair underneath it?
Its not really a furniture item but I still think it would be cute to have
(I'm not in beta just asking for future reference)
so therm ignite DID origin from the term ignis
Im sure tgc will give something for people who dont wanna spend like bringing back the blue umbrella ts someday
Yeah, I missed that one twice 😂 and when it's a blue umbrella on a green and yellow player it's a bit hard on color scheming compared to this one
Blue umbrella has been back with TS twice, I think.
Well u just saw the 3rd time coming of sassy so better not miss it again if its umbrella ella eh eh again someday
Hey iOS users, are the beach ball spells still available at the boat?
i remember i did eden each day for orbit candles when umbrella came cuz i didnt had enough
Wait really? Every day?
on that note
PLEEEASE GIVE THE BEACH BALL COLOURS
Its a beach ball and not a depressive anti stress ball
Oh gosh, it's so hard to call myself an enchantment moth when I remained a moth for two to three seasons until actually trying and being aware of travelling spirits 😂
I'd suggest if you really want the item and have money to shell out, I'd say go for it. But if you're on a tight budget and/or very frugal with your expenses, I'd say think it through because it's just an item and who knows, maybe TGC will come up something better (with the same function) in the future.
I can finally live in peace knowing there's finally an android update 
ANDROID UPDATE IS HERE
Ah, there is an Android update now!
Stress ball for candle runner's
Is there?

Finally
Im updating right now
Me: Rushes to open Play Store 
BTW, thank you ❤️
Yayy nice thanks for letting us know
I have just enough to shell out on this during my job, but its the principal 😂
Ktjn said there only 2 percent for ur desired ts to comeback and it takes 2 years aaaaaaaaa
in theory
in practice it will take MUCH more than 2 years
this not considering that RNGs that run on the number pi(3.14...) are not really random
It might take 2 years. Or more or less. Sassy prefers ‘less’
We should have a true randomizer like those lava lamps in california
For example if we have already 20 seasons the chances of ur desired ts gets worse in RNG (ill pretend i believe it)
ANDROID UPDATE LETSGOOOOOOO
yeah im late idc
For sure if they release sky in pc they will return the sassy again for sure 🤭
Google woke up? Let's goooo
ktjn mentioned that it wasn't google's fault 
I remember when I LITERALLY was a moth and I couldn't afford the TSs umbrella...
And that was during prophecy season...
Hence it's been YEARS since then...
Btw. Will cape from Days of bloom come back?
FINALLY THE UPDATE IS HERE
What if the Generator they use requires a seed to manually be put in for the randomization every month, and the seed is determined by a d20 roll. 
i was a sanctuary moff but let me flex i was quite a buff one
while other were being adopted by vets i adopted a moff of my own on my 3rd day
ikr I barely understood the game then let alone how to candle run
Actually, they put bunch of random ts on a spinning wheel and use that to decide what ts should be next
Lol me only playing the game for 3 months and already having the valley hair
😏
Imagine they start streaming the day of choosing the ts 
30 seconds for live stream
I'm just imagining that big, spinning wheel on Price is right and they're like "come on down!"
O started a little before double wax event, i was a rich moth.
beta in sanctuary, so much lucky bugs happened to get extra candles ever since
they put all spirits in one arena and make them fight like hunger games, last survivor is the ts
Thats why sassy keeps showing up
Android update now 😊
TGC:Violence? No
no wonder, sassy queen girlboss gaslight gatekeep
But eden tho...
That's fantasy violence. If for like battle royale style 
sky is rated as ''fantasy violence"
tfw sassy is on there four times
ALSO sassy is the first ts
first repeat
and third repeat
i smell conspiracy
No?
Sassy: first ts to return 47 times before 2023
Actually, I wanna sassy on my TS list because of cat mask. I don't know that TS so I make crab call as priority instead
too bad we're not getting the repeat
Guys, question:
Are the items in beta free like in-game stuff and NOT IAP
first ts, first repeat, and first to come a third time
i feel like TGC chose sassy intentionally
Finally android!
Also, sassy is first ts on switch
No Sassy mask for Beta testers... That's the real conspiracy. 
IAPs are free
meanwhile IGC items aren't,we need to pay for them hence candle run
... i should have used my last weasel mask spell tomorrow. Instead of today. Dangit
weasel mask spell?
I think their RNG in a nutshell, randomised
from back when we were testing the pins
we got lots of cosmetic spells including the mask spell
From the STAR testing. Yes. 😳
Is it just me or do you all also feel that making all the new props look like the assembly backpack is a little boring and lazy? I would really like them to have a unique look when on your back. Atleast a special backpack or common look for each event would be nice
Randomised in a way that sassy is the first triple ts
Yo the umbrella gonna be 20 bucks? 😭
I still have 16 weasel spells
my director cape spells will forever collect dust though
They should make me buy the whole sky kid at this point
Props in beta are often unfinished, I'd rather have a cute backpack while testing rather than whatever anomaly the Assembly props were in the first build 
Purchase your sky kid as an nft
I'd be surprised if they stay a backpack, but you can always submit feedback in #beta-feedback about it 
or at least not have the assembly logo on them
Lmao 😭 yeah, you have to buy it on pieces though, 2039838283 nfts each
I'd prefer a cursed void prop instead 
It was really cursed. 
black hole prop
300 candles
sucks in everything
I thought the first build of the assembly props resembled what we’ve got now, where they’re miniature versions of the full props we wear on our backs
I keep forgetting what item i wear and always have to open emote menu to check. Backpack design never been my favourite, reminds me of the heavy school backpacks from 1st grade 🎒. Assembly props in first build were fun
I wouldn't mind a tiny chair on my back.
#beta-screenshots-videos message for cursed prop context
we already have a chair on our back for one prop 
Before that (or after? at some point lol) they were the same size as you place them on your back and they would be all weird and move around your back when you walked 
Comically large hoop was my favorite
Imagine the new chair look though.
the taco 
I loved the blursed hexacon
But how does sky logic make any sense i mean you carry one chair on 6our back and then poof an entire table twice the size of your skykid and 3 more chairs appear too? And the first chair is still on your back...
Simple: very, VERY deep pockets
Normal sized sunbed on our backs 
me too
Android update is available now
what logic? 
Aaah I miss the cheese slice cape 
I WANNA FINISH THE QUESTS AND GET COOL CAPE COME ON TGC PLZ 
Invisible prop
Well...
It's good to know the beta stuff doesn't require actual money for the stuff we want...
It's like some sort of a memory stick where you stock your files in it in case you lose something from your online account ^^
Eden is still crashing 
for 9999 hearts available after invisi
Next goal Voi?
I didn’t run into any crashes in eden today, but its sad to hear that issue is still present .
Nah, 9999 AC for invisiprop
I cannot do the final quest in Eden. Eveytime I go to eden, my game suddenly broke.
Yes still crashing
😫
see you in 12 years
I did the math. It would be 4 years . 
Guys!!, i got the invisible prop, it's on my back rn. Also a funny thing is that it doesn't have collision for anyone. Look i placed it in front of you.
/j
how? you can only get 15.75 ac per week
9999 would take way more than 4 years
I give ac for pats~~ jkjk~~
Wait. I've made a mistake dhshhss
You see. I may be stupid
9999/15.75~=635
635/52~=12.2
Oh no math
I can maths
Does anyone know if they will update the fox prop functionality? There’s no difference between the beta and live version 🤷🏻♀️
Or is it just gonna be what it is… a prop? 🥲
it's just... a prop
there is no functionality
Christ.. fhshhs
it wouldn't be in Live if it wasn't done yet
It's cute, that's its functionality
Guys is it true that....
That the umbrella became an IAP :')
it was always an IAP, it just wasn't available before
But I once saw it cost 20 hearts?!
its so cute that, when i was in a prairie lobby, a bunch of skykids were worshipping one a little chibi placed 
Did they return our 20 hearts tho? For those who have spent it in the first place…
Has anyone tried pipe Vs krill recently?
Please read #beta-faq 
Check #beta-announcements, it's also mentioned on #beta-faq
Oof that is rough 😂 bye hearts
Me with 1 heart in beta 
No compensation on Beta. Everyone who could afford it purchased air with 20 hearts
🤣🤣🤣 you’ve made my day. “Purchased air” lmaoooo

PURCHASED AIR
Glorious
Does anyone know why the update hasn't come to the google app store yet?
Check again, clear cache maybe
It's not just for me. my friends didn't have the update either.
Hmm. Try force stopping google play? Not sure
please follow the steps they provided above, clearing cache in cases where the update button doesn't appear usually solves this problem
I Have the same thing
Huh. Weird
I'm from Brazil and I talked to a foreign friend and he didn't have the update either. And several friends of mine in Brazil also didn't have
I'm from the US and I got the update, not sure on what the problem is
the patch isn't compatible with android. it's not just a delay, but it's going to take a while
why is it not compatible? has this happened before?
Esilinha have you tried clearing the cache for Google Play Store?
Just clean your cash memory data
android?
Yes
After clearing cache you should be able to update
since i cant ask in questions and answers, where is the beret in the live version? i remember seeing it in beta images
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
It's not in live yet.
sorry, i thought it was in the season of the prince, my apologies
It's for sky 2nd anniversary
I'm having the same problem. Now I'm waiting.
Me too
Has anyone outside of the US gotten the android update?
I just now knew about the umbrella going in IAP. I am so sad. Even sassy stance couldn't cheer me up . 😓

I just entered the Google Store and found an update. Would you like to check out the Google Store?
Just clean your cash data and after go In google play store for to see if you can update it
Because I had the same problem and it work after I clean cash
I'm dossapointed, all the maps are still broken on android..
Wdym by broken?
oh, sorry.. that's just what i kind of understood from the notes in known-issues.. though looking back at it, it has been resolved. so im not sure what's wrong rn
I just now knew about the days of summer umbrella going in IAP. I am so sad. Even sassy stance couldn't cheer me up . sweatSkyCry pCry
Ok. Thanx
Well
I'm disappointed that the eden crash didn't fixed
Hope that it will be fixed soon
multiple areas i just crash, there's no away around it
Does anyone remember if the little prince talked during the last Eden quest in orbit? Trying to write some feedback for the feedback channel but I forgot.
Oh, that sucks. I haven't crashed in beta yet, most likely because I've only been in home space
I went through Eden today and didn’t crash, so it’s not a general issue. Keep reporting it.
Ugh I can't ender eden at all
keep reporting it.. noted, it needs fixed.. the game is unplayable
I think forest is the worst for me, random parts of the map just make me crash
Seems to be an Android issue?
I had that problem too, tysm for the advice, it worked 
Beta available yet?
I just updated on my android
Oh noice, thankq~
yknow even if The umbrella is IAP im still excited for the cool hat. I was dumb and thought the null 20 heart item was the umbrella XD
I wonder if we'll ever know
I did it 2 times before the new update and nothing was fixed
Has anyone tested rolling and flipping with a controller? I was excited to see that in the beta notes but i haven't seen someone mention it yet
I don’t understand what you want to say. Can you explain, please?
Does anyone know why the beta surveys are always closed or is it just me
What beta surveys?
I mean that some place or litterally eden crash when I try to go in, I report those crash 2 times during the last 2 weeks
Ok. Well, it worked fine for me just a few hours ago and is also back to the older version with normal walking/jumping. But if it keeps crashing after the update, you should keep reporting it.
My crash is more like when I enter in, I go immediately outside the app
So I can't do the last seasonal quest
Yes, and for the sake of the future Live players, it’s important that we beta testers report these issues.
Is your beta downloaded from official source or you downloaded it from unofficial source?
Looking at the bug reports, it seems to mainly be a Samsung issue. (The crashes) I haven't crashed on my Pixel since day 1 of LPP testing.
I crashed randomly going from Prairie to Isle on one of the first days. Playing on iPhone 12.
Yeah, beginning had crashes on every platform. Thumbing through recent bug reports, the current crash seems to be Samsung only.
Reading the TS Twitter post replies and wow 
People really get way more upset over a free TS than they do for overpriced IAPs
And some of us don’t have a lot of money after TGC has been releasing all these overpriced IAPs one after another.
but sure I guess the TS are more important.
Can we update android beta now?
What’s going on? What are people mad about?
the TS being sassy stance
Just people being angrier over a Free TS repeating rather than the constantly overpriced IAPs 
People can feel how they want to feel
Some assumed the summer umbrella would be for 20 hearts, it's actually iap for 20 dollars
Also new ts
Well, I need Sassy stance and it’s items so I’m happy. 
Kinda philosophy lol
Gotta admit, the umbrella being iap kinda broke a piece of my heart 😓
I just feel like people are channeling their anger towards TGC over the entirely wrong things…
The sky community isn’t a monolith, people will be ok or not ok with different things
