#beta-discussion
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Piggy hasn't been fixed in this build
I rocket every day in Vault... Piggyback still breaks in certain situations, though. Edit: Funny thing, though, piggyback/carry doesn't break while doing a carry spirit still, and being hit by crabs sometimes doesn't break carry/piggyback either. (did all of crab call relive with GF on my back with no issues, and got hit by crabs a few times and she stayed on.)
I hate when people glitch skip through Vault. I end up being stuck all by myself at the doors! Its so mean.
I don't oob through the doors anymore. Those two candle cakes can rot for all I care. I just get other stuff in 1st and second floor, then skip to summit and work my way back down to 4th floor.
It’s beta so there usually ain’t enough people to open doors. People have other things to do and they can’t wait forever either. So they glitch. But on Live when it’s easier to get enough people to help open doors, and when people don’t help even when there are enough people that’s a bit annoying ye. It’s just two candle cakes behind the doors anyway. If you need help to get a spirit or something in particular you can always ask for help in #beta-looking-for-group
Agreed
Whenever I candle run in beta I just skip any and all doors that require multiple players, especially the 8 player door, because I know that's extremely hard to open
then glitch through too
Just had a real nice get together with a friend and her friends , but while chatting , the big chat screen wouldn’t display my text anymore. The chat bubbles would only view my text if I tapped it. I could see everyone else their chat though ?? Anyone else encountered this problem ?
Several times in older builds, but lately i havent.
I have a doubt, when tgc Will add all the seasonal spirits in the live version? 😅
When it's ready. We're still play testing it and reporting bugs that affect the spirit relive system. (Like in beta, reliving daily quest spirits are no longer blue, for example. This bug cropped up on the update that added seasonal spirit relives.)
There was also bugs with certain seasonal spirits due to terrain changes (looking at you Sassy Stance)
Hmm, also noticed during some of our meditation quests that reliving Butterfly Spirit will “activate and complete” the Butterfly Fields Meditation quest. I got caught by the spirit as someone was reliving it when I was collecting the seasonal and I got the meditation quest when they finished it. I also noticed that the day we had the two meditation spots in Citadel the Manta Call spirit had the yellow ring around it as if it was a daily quest spirit.
Manta call has had that gold/grey sundog since spirits that have been relived before will show up as grey when reliving them again
It’s been relived by me already. It just has the gold ring.
Yeah, that's normal
It’s not supposed to be glowing at all. It wasn’t a daily quest that day so it’s a bug.
Well it's been doing that ever since I started playing and got the call (December) so it's probably intentional
It's in live too
I’ve only ever seen it with a blue ring around it before the Seasonal Spirits were added. Means it was always a bug and no one noticed. The gold ring is now supposed to only be around the Daily Quest Spirits to mark that they are the ones that needed to be relived.
Grey sundogs aren't in live yet, so it's grey in beta and blue in live
I don’t even know what a “sundog” is. The point I’m making is that spirits are supposed to be greyed out with no glowing ring around them unless it’s a daily quest spirit. The Daily Quest Spirits are supposed to be marked by a bright gold ring, but a couple have been bugged and were missing the ring like the Saluting Captain in Wasteland was missing it the day he was a quest spirit. The manta call spirit isn’t supposed to have a ring around it at all if it’s been relived already so it’s a bug.
Sundogs are those rings you're referring to, sorry for the confusion
And yes you're right it's most likely a bug
I would love a manga call. 
Lol Oops 😆 Manta Call Spirit.
Goes into office and clicks a button on the phone, gives us a link to a webpage containing a beautifully illustrated sky manga
I can see it now, soft call: hai. Deep call: iie (japanese for yes and no)
Petition to have sky manga irl /j
People would actually want that. No doubt. They could make one filled with Lore and people would be all over it. Lol
Yes lmao
The Manga could go into detail of the fall of the kingdom of Sky, not current events, but the past events when spirits were alive... 
twitter already have plenty of jp artists creating their own stories 
Those aren't considered cannon and just fanfics, though.
I'll take your entire stock!
I wonder what the prince jacket cape would cost 🤔
also all I met there whenever Im online are mostly chinese :’)...
im just saying official comics would be as popular as those as there is demand 
I bought everything from this season but I have 96% on the constellation. is this a bug?
Just a little question
Did the ts event stoped ?
Because I forget
the ts? it ended by the end of last week
Seasonal quests counts too. To get 100% you need to complete all quests, not just spirit trees.
Rip
I missed everything 😔
Idk if tgc will put this back again
a ts can come back a second time so maybe it'll come back some time, who knows
So maybe that event about all ts is back at the same time could be arrived again in another time ?
what do you mean all ts is back at the same time?
referring about testing an event where all ts comes back at the same time, which sounds impossible

yes it's confusing
Oh sorry I was probably confus about something
why would all ts come back at the same time? that sounds awful
people would panic to get enough candles for anything 
absolutely, thats why I said it sounds impossible, that's what I just interpreted from op
i think they're asking about all seasonal spirits being available to get level one emotes/calls/stances :)
There seems to be misunderstanding about the all seasonal spirit available lately
Reliving past seasonal spirits is still active in beta. It's a bit different than TS system.
ohhh maybe!
Man, just imagine about 50 something travelling spirits all show up in the small home space. The chaos
I see, that makes more sense 
all the past seasonal spirits are chilling out in the realms in beta
there isn't much major bugs or hindrances from before (except Sassy) so I see it coming to live soon
Don't be shy share some more
Due to the rink height changing, I forgot which spirit it was, but all spawn points in the relive were way above the rink. It's doable, but definitely not intended.
please don't ping people for messages over 24 hours old
I'm pretty sure the devs are under NDAs and there's literally some stuff they can't share
what kai said. its ok to ping a dev when they aren't currently here if its an emergency or if its a beta testing question (like what to put in a specific bug report for example) but otherwise we should avoid pinging them
oh yeah,
memories were a bit weird too iirc
Not a chance, I like keeping my job more than spilling development secrets.
that person really pinged you 
have fun on the day off!
I'm gonna go back to enjoying my day off. Cheers! 
Lightseekers’ Twirl Champion?
Will we see a snake 🐍 in the next seasonal task? 🤔 Until Next time on dragon ball Z... 😅
I’m certain he’s always been that way, since the original debut. I recall struggling with reaching for the memories because I only had 3-5 wedges
Not all memories of twirl is way above the rink i believe, there is some falling one which is closer to the ice iirc, but correct me if I’m wrong
twirl jumps in air makes sense for me especially since spirits are taller than sky kids, so their jumps are higher too?
That's odd. The only problem I had with seasonal relives is Sassy Drifter's trail.
Somehow I'm taking a break for days from beta testing🥺
I’m going to relive him real quick to jog my moth memory...
Nope, nothing wrong. That’s just the way his memory sequence has always been, but it indeed was confusing and difficult as a moth, so it wouldn’t hurt to flag it up either way
when will sky be released on Nintendo switch?
Ah, I wasn't playing during lightseekers, so always thought it was a bug due to it's difficulty when it came back as TS and when reliving it in beta... Thinking of it, though, compared to other places, it's not that difficult of a relive. (Looking at you, don't go and respect)
Twirling Champion is easier to relive than Respect for me
Pleaful Parent is no.
get someone to be willing krill bait
dismiss is harder for me, pleaful and respect is fun for me wjshsjn
once you get the hang of pleaful, it's not too bad
Afro (a friend) and I had to relive Pleaful twice, and this was before we could see those star signals in memories again 
Each Lightseekers spirit took a frustratingly long time to relive because I had absolutely no idea how any of it worked... but somehow I relieved them all, I used to hear from players who would simply give up and miss out on the emotes
i know a lot of players think that the sanctuary hiker was the hardest spirit to relive due to having to walk it up the mountain, but just wait until they get to don't go 
as a moth i had to wait until other players came to be bait as i did the spirit
I'm still mad at grouch for making me crash
/hj
I did have a hard time doing Crab call too because the crabs keeping hitting you while you're dragging the spirit
I think Shush is a rather difficult one, but in a fun way.
jump up the parkour stones
i couldnt relieve the dont go spirit bc im too traumatized with the krills in GW, so i asked my friends to relieve it for me instead and now i feel kinda guilty
WAIT WRONG REPLY BYE
I think I dropped his memory a few times off the platforms. Lightseekers’ wasn’t so merciful with its 5 carry spirits 
don't go is one of the few spirits that i think you are really meant to do with other players. especially since you are in the line of sight of all 4 krills there. its totally worth it though, the story is so cute. i can't wait for the spirits to appear in live all the time
uhhh Twirl as the exception
aww why? i kinda like the instrument as well as the emotes
I don’t want to imagine a carry spirit on slippery ice, it’s enough that sometimes a carry memory slips once you slide down a slope
noooo I meant as the Lightseekers spirit that isn’t a carry
I love Twirl too
no not hard, was only saying about being a regular stills kind of spirit rather than a carry, difficulty irrelevant
ohhhhhh, is it bc of the relieving spirit that is hard or?
Piggyback wasn’t a difficult carry spirit, but you had to relive all other 5 spirits to access it since it was locked behind a spirit barrier 
Krill bait is going to become a full time job
how much would i get paid for it?
i'd gladly become bait for our moth friends reliving dont go and respect for 3 candles per skykid.
I just realized I had a message still being typed but didn't post it
But...
wasn't hard... If you just learn the krill pathing. Relived it twice and only got krilled the first run due to server merge
I was also ok with dun go. I was alone (thankfully with no one to disturb the functioning krills so I can follow their path). I had to keep deep calling so the crabs dun disturb me..
I remember my sister doing the don’t go spirit when it was a traveling spirit, we struggled a lot and there were 2 players waiting at the end who used laugh emote when we finally finished it after multiple krillings🥲 so pretty hard for newer players (sorry not rly beta content)
As a moth in live, grumpy hiker was my hardest challenge, same for shushing scholar.
But in beta being able to relive them all, I can say the hardest ones for me is:
- Plea
- Dismiss
- Grumpy
- Respect
No you know what Dismiss was awful to relive so they might be tied with Plea.
It took me a while to learn krill paths. I'm not sure a new-ish player would be able to go through alone unscathed 
Especially if they get pinched by the two krills next to the plant. 
Hmmm, I can't find the asteroid jacket now? I saw it the last time when it wasn't available yet but its gone from the shop?
Yea it's gone from shop. We need to wait for season quests anyway
quick question, does anyone remember how much the little prince clothes cost again?
The green PJs are two seasonal hearts and the sword pants are 200 candles.
wait, we can just get them as ultimate reward thingies? and not just buy them from the in game shop?
Both pants were moved from IAP
and the scarf cape?
are the sword pants really only going to be candles only? bc honestly im pretty impatient 
Scarf cape is still an iap. Sword pants are 200 regular candles, not pass locked. The sword pants are also time gated by the seasonal quests, so you wouldn't be able to buy them right away
Seems Green Cape is also time gated. We don't know which quest unlocks the IAP, but currently, it's further along than the 5th quest.
Scarf iap $15
I was considering it because I couldn't remember the price, and now I am considering it less
it's so cute though, just a bit too pricey for me at this time
whether it be IAP or candles, it doesn't matter if youre impatient it's time gated 
Is TGC waiting to stop people from using rocket? Now, when you select the ✋/ ✋ icon while doing rocket, it has your friend drop instead of staying on your shoulders.
That makes it no good to use if someone in your group doesn't have warp with someone else.
Isn't piggyback broken in general atm?
I am still able to do piggyback and rocket, it is that release that is a problem for me.
Wait, you can fly around with open wings with a friend on your back with no issue? 
Wait why are u asking in live version too? Is it like this in live too?
I have no issue with carry rocket in live.
(Even beta for that matter, except the part where if I go from closed wing to open, they fall off)
Same. Tho I haven't tried rocket in beta cuz piggy breaks when driver flies. I thought they were speaking beta but now idk anymore
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They never used to fall off.
Ktjn mentioned somewhere that it's not intentional for you to fall off during piggy, and they are currently working on a fix
Friends falling off carry is a known issue and started with the LPP update, which is why live isn't affected. I am sure, sometime before the season patch goes live, it will get fixed.
who knows when the beta version became available on the switch?
Beta switch already closed
Switch beta was a limited, closed (private) beta. It ran from May 6, 2021 to June 6th, 2021. Switch is all internal testing now, and most likely won't have another beta program in the future.
oops little missed the answer. but thank you and @carmine thorn
This
(i turn ping off)
May not be ready for release
I was asking in both to see what people would say. It was interesting to see how things went over there.
@slim kayak , thanks for your response. Over in the live chat people were saying that rocket was an unfair glitch that should be patched out.
Thank you too @sleek pelican . Sorry, for some reason your response didn't show until after I posted.
I mean, if it's an unintended game mechanic, it will get patched out sooner or later. It does make getting to vault summit a 15 second ordeal...
When will there be new waves for beta
When TGC needs them.
There's hope for fix

@shrewd needle i personally see it as piggy is just broken now, not intentional patched or anything. Kinda like how going oob crashed the game before.
People tend to jump to conclusions when it comes to beta. Sometimes things are just broken and there's nothing more to it 
Thanks to both of you again.
Maybe I should stay off the live chat and only ask about things here, then. It feels more positive here. That issue was beta as well anyway.
Please someone tell me the new cosmetics distribution (iap and ap and normal candles) for the le petit prince season...i am so confused
I need to prep for it like in adv since i am sometimes busy and can't even open sky
looks back at chibi fall crash and how people believed it got "patched" by crashing
lmao
I’m sure prices will be revealed officially by TGC in due time. 🙂
Ohks thnku but not the ans i was looking for
Sorry, but that’s the answer we can give. Beta channels aren’t preview for Live. 
IAP: fox, scarf and green cape
White candles: sword pants
AP: Everything else
(All subject to change yet)
Thankyouuu 
You can always browse here, especially the updates channel, to see what’s going on. But please don’t take it to be gospel truth and then be angry/disappointed it didn’t come to Live.
beta content tends to change a lot so it can be given as misinformation for some if the info changed
🔹Prince Sword Suit, previously IAP ($14.99), now available for 200 🕯️after 7th Seasonal Quest completion. Refer to previous #beta-announcements for further info.
🔹Prince's Green Pj's, previously part of IAP Prince Pack?, is now part of Season of The Little Prince UG lineup.
🔹Fox Backpack & Scarf Cape remains as IAP
🔹Mystery Prince Asteroid Jacket will be IAP as well. See latest #beta-announcements.
Tho, all this is still in Beta Testing, things may or may not change, I'd suggest always keep an eye out on recent news 
And thts not the ans many give cause i ve seen lots of people talk and ask about beta things and people do reply to live players and ans their ques so
@faint comet thankyou this cleared my doubt...i ll strt collecting candles since i have my xams next month ...really thankful
@cosmic orchid aye aye thanku
for the info
If you check the pins in the beta channels you will see that we are asked not to make charts and give out prices. Beta is for testing purposes and sometimes TGC doesn’t even let us test everything before they release it to Live. This is to avoid all these rumours and misunderstandings about what is and isn’t happening in the game, such as the piggy back debacle currently raging on social media. It’s not just me being silly.
I understand but its not just me...there r many...so if u r replyimg tht to me pls tell everyone else too cause i have seen this from the beginning and bye
I do try to tell everyone. But I’m not here 24/7. 
Even when mods occasionally pop in here they remind people about this.
...i won't min if devs take action for leaks but the prices r like we need to prepare when there r 200 candlez it may even take months and not just discord there is yt too...lots of things
I do understand it’s coming from kindness and wanting to help fellow players. But it does create so much confusion and misinformation, because people take it as written in stone and that’s never been how beta worked.
200 candles can easily be acquired by doing 5 candles a day for 40 days. (or 10 for 20) They will inform players ahead of time via patch notes, #news articles, and most likely other avenues before the big whammy. Plenty of time to gather the candles needed since it's locked behind the final quest... a minimum of 48 days (if quests are every week.)
I think most of us know nothing s sure till it s released but its like it may come in live so we do need to prep...like i prob won't b on next month and between days... I have exams and some problems so i can clct in days when m free and its easy if i have more time... @carmine thorn
Doing daily realm with a friend will yield 5-7 candles at 3 chevrons. No need to be on the game more than 10-15mins, max.
I feel the stress around candles is mostly on you as a player and how you approach the game. I wouldn’t plan my life around this event, if real world matters are at hand. But that is a choice you have to make.
Wht if u don't have frnds cause i play solo...and no frnds
@hollow compass thts y i was asking frm beforehand to do candle run in free days and free time... can't play sky when i m busy and we all k life s life and game s a game
It’s sometimes faster to run solo than with friends, since your chances of getting burn merges are higher when you run alone
That’s not really on us. I’m sorry you feel this way about the game. I wish it wasn’t so stressful for you.
I mean, you can do the daily realm without a friend. It just might take a bit longer without a battery. 
I play solo (and it's faster for me, if I go solo) and I could easily get 5 - 15 candles daily. Valley, Vault, Prairie and a trip or two at Polluted Geyser usually consists of my daily candle run routine but if I have time, I'd do it all (except Trials)
Umm the game isn't...but ur giving me stress fr talking about things tht aren't even related lol wht stress...
how can i het in to beta testing?
I don’t know what to reply to that.
see #beta-faq 
Guys i do always do cr alone...but plz don't talk when u dont know about my situation s...summary: i just asked for info on prices for next season...cause i have xams and some prob...sky s my relaxing time and i only do it when i m free and i wanted to get sword outfit for sure and it s too many candles and to b prep i asked...is this so much? I g yes...i ll remember to not talk here if just asking it means so many people nagging or telling things unrelated
btw, the timer for the 6th quest is right this time yeah?
It seem so, yes. I think we had that previously in Dreams?
You asked for information we cannot guarantee. Since Beta is completely different than live, prices may change before the official announcement. We saw the rainbow tassel for 20 candles in beta before DoR ended in Beta. It turned out to be 20 hearts in live, like a previous price.
If you don't want us to get confused with your situation, please don't bring it up; most of it was filler.(filler in the sense of it wasn't needed to get the question across, it is definitely important to you and should be) The main question was pricing because you wanted to save candles before it hits live. When the price is concrete, TGC will have a #news post about it that all other social media outlets would link to also (like DoR price and info announcement).
Dude y d u assume tht i dunnu about beta things changing...i just asked to get idea cause it may b 200 or mayb candles less or more...how d u assume tht i d think tht if something is in beta it will surely come in live
I just simply asked for pricessss like wth people ... I said i was confused about them...i nvr said tht they d b in live just like beta these r the unrelated things
it is normal that beta players tell people something like that about beta prices. clearly those who asked don’t play beta. if they do, they’d know the prices already. so their response were not just to you. don’t stress about it.
People here get passionate about making sure people get the right info and we do have people coming in wondering about beta content, so there's a lot of caution in making sure people aren't given the wrong expectations about content. Yes it can get frusting on both sides since everyone wants to help out and sometimes we miscommunicate what we want to hear or want to say. Please take a breather if so. It's much harder to understand each other if you're going to start throwing shade at others 
U sure? Cause everything started with this ...
I’m sure prices will be revealed officially by TGC in due time. slight_smile
Sorry, but that’s the answer we can give. Beta channels aren’t preview for Live. SkyBow
I mean, that's the first thing in the beta FAQ, that beta isn't early access to information.
But lots of people...and i mean lots...ask for info...and beta players help them like in a straight way nicely like two people did...not this...
Anyone is welcome to come in and discuss beta content, but we do ask people not to take it as concrete answers for live content. I understand there's a need to prepare and a need to know, but sometimes beta chat just won't have concrete answers.
It may b 200 candles or change but getting an idea isn't bad...there s a chance it won't...just like there s a chance it will
May I ask why you quoted me and what you feel was wrong in my replies? I don’t feel I was being rude in any way. Giving beta-specific information (such as prices or cosmetic reveals) and informing about the rules of these channels aren’t opposing in any way. Both are “nice” ways of responding.
when things are calmer like now, some testers are kind enough to take the time to answer questions. but generally we're supposed to focus on beta testing and bug discussion. it can get hard to discuss bugs when the majority of text is about questions that could be found on your own. its also a bit difficult to give a good answer sometimes since many players take this information as fact unfortunately. 
falls in Sanctuary Islands still seem to be bugged,
has anyone made a report on that?
remembers the chibi fall crash bug being taken by users as a "fix" for chibi fall or remembers when people thought invisicape was going to live when it wasn't.
@cosmic orchid which falls? And how exactly bugged? I don't see a difference between live and beta for my device and I have reported it as a live bug, since it's there also.
People taking the chibi fall bug as a "fix"... I don't think anything like that could ever be considered a fix... but. That happened dbshhs
i think because all the misinformation stuff happened pretty recently, a lot of testers are taking the side of caution. the chibi fall bug was... kind of a mess
And now with carry... 
chibi fall crashes omg they patched the glitch
piggyback being broken omg they patched the glitch
I honestly couldn't understand how some people arrived to that conclusion
With piggy it's at least understandable? Because Well. It didn't involve a crash. But.. people need to research first. 
Admittedly, it doesn’t help that some of the features being beta tested aren’t announced to us, so things like the Eden wing parade or the message shrine like count being changed adds to the confusion about what’s intentional and what’s a bug. Still, not a good idea to jump straight to conclusions
its generally a overreaction that can be applied to many additions/fixes
afk timer(in testing) - no more uber
assembly quests - forced socialization
collab season having IAP - locked good items in upcoming seasons
I do feel extremely sorry for moths who want to go back and do the assembly quests. It might be difficult for 'em to find somebody.
I don't think withholding an info that could change is impolite in any way, that might just be me tho
If anything, it's.. Probably for the best that we do withold things subject to change. I would hate to set somebody's expectations for something.
People all respond differently to questions or feedback. Miscommunication happens, and it's best to take that, understand, communicate politely what happened and move on. As a moderator I'll be asking you all to not take out your frustrations on others in chat.
Of course. It's... all just. Wild. 
Xynth, thank you for stopping by. 
Now we are going back to the enchanment quests today, it was long time since i catched the cyan light
I even had to ask in #questions-and-help to remember where it was 
I had to check there too!

Okay, quick question, since the update, does anyone know what the fox backpack does or is it just an accessory?
It sits adorably. 
probably an accessory, but you know how beta goes. Nothing is permanent, everything changes 
not to say the least
What is light blue light? !!
Between prairie and isle, go to prairie and go back to isle from there. The light will be in the clouds
Oh! I understand! Thank you 😉
hi, everyone. Can someone send a test link?
There are no invites rn. Read #beta-faq for more info
Hmm I’ve noticed that boats when reliving memories of Gloating Narcissist are no longer solid. Is that intentional or should I report that as bug?
most likely intentional?
i noticed when it was solid it was a harder time relieving them cause you had to flap more to land on the boats
may also be for performance reasons, since more solid collision is generally more processor intensive; still wouldn't hurt to give feedback on it if it feels odd to you, but i never really thought much about the boats personally
My friend got stuck in the boat and couldn’t get out day-1, only way to was to trigger the next memory
Man. .. even if collision is more processor intensive. I wish they'd bring back collission to that oob stadium in the village. It was one of my favourite places to hang..
When i use the spell to visit elders, am i the only one going tping there or do my friends holding my hands come as well?
Iirc the description said friends who hold hand will be warped to elder too 🤔
If you hold hands, your friends should be warped with you too
only with holding hands though -- piggyback won't work with the elder spells, nor any of the cosmetic ones either
I fear trials as quests
Im... actually excited to have them as trials
edit: just wondering
What if trials become daily quests but they give 4 candles.
And they are the only quest for the day.
P. S. Did they actually make trials a quest or y'all just wondering
Thanks
i will offer to go there to my friends but hesitate to say it if i let them down 
That would be day i skip the quests

Guys, that little prince's green cape goes global?
Not yet, not much is known beyond what we’ve been told in #beta-announcements
Ooooh good idea to make people visit the cave again
more variety for quest is good 
I feel bad for the coders
Ooooh, Daily Quest like "Meditate at
insert which trial
in the Cave of Prophecies 
Is this chat still angry? 
More than 1 minute of slow mode.... 
angry about what?
I condone if there was a meditation quest in trials. It will take a while, but it wouldn't be too long
Having to finish a trial for a seasonal candle would make me sweat www
in a way, finishing a trial does give quite the candles so it's sorta fine for me
Generally angry. There were some pretty heated discussions here that made slow mode raise and reactions be turned off. I am talking about this. Seeing the current slow mode I am assuming things are still not calm.
@tropic radish I like ur pfp 
ohhh, I see
it did pretty much calmed down now, but I may have missed some commotions that turned the slowmode up again,
/I have the soul of an extreme candle runner, so trials just feels like a daily candle run course. Definitely not because I have a friend to be my battery--
Imagine those who legitimately struggle in fire trial, and haven't finished the main trial quests 
First time going there blind took me about 5 hours 
And thank you Lalia. Gotta love the krill kid 
may sounds too far fetched but hear me out, what if the trial quests give 2 seasonal candle reward instead of 1
pretty sure it would upset balancing in some way 

Angery price balancing noises
But if we reduced the daily quests to 3 instead everytime it shows up, but the one trial quest gives you 2 seasonal candles...
Maybe

that would certainly work. confused skykid noises when they see daily only has 3 quests instead of 4 
it'd also penalise players who choose and prefer not to do the trials though, because that'd mean half of the mission candles for that day can't be obtained without going there; it's not the same as having more than 4 missions to choose from in a day, but only being able to earn up to 4 candles from missions in a given day
Seasonal dailies shouldn’t take more than 30 minutes 
Wouldn’t mind if it was an off-season quest with a higher reward, otherwise I don’t see it working as seasonal
true2, it's quite nice to see the pros and cons of an idea, even if the idea is sorta far fetched 
How can we make the new capes have colors? 🔴🟠🟡🟢🔵🟣🟤⚫⚪
just that to encourage me to compare the season pass, what can we do friends?
Are you agree? 🥺
The season capes are black for art reasons to correspond to the season story of Little Prince. Sky staff Ktjn told here that their colors are final. In next season the capes will be more colorful I'm sure.
Yeah, the black colour does seperate the adults from skykids immediately. Picturing them as losing their young childhood charm ( metaphorically )
Watch next season be full of pastel colours /j
Black cape cool pls keep ty
Nobody reads this message from TGC staff usually and as previously mentioned, this season's cape designs are final.
I know, If I wasn’t clear enough; I’m in favour of the cape’s designs this season, I have no complaints whatsoever
it's nice that we get this bulk of dark capes, that should satisfy the peoples needs of dark cosmetics
(Me, I’m people)
I'm one of these people 
I am also people
They work soooooo well with Prophecy’s pants 
Rhythm with a stack of purple pants.
LP with a monochrome capes. Loved it.
Also that unique scarf
i’m definitely people
there are spells for that? 
Yes, when they tested NFC STAR Pins back then
Oh, thanks for info. I totally missed that 
It seems to me they share meditation point, cuz I remember placing a note in one of them and note was displayed in all of them.
Hrm, anyone else having trouble entering both live and beta sky in the new android 12 beta 2 without it crashing?
I'm amazed. TGC made the #wishlist-and-ideas-archived requested "Moth, sit!" (to the table) emote alive in the form of Beckoning ruler's level 3 emote.
Will I get ban if I use my friend's switch to buy the upcoming package 
Wait what's all this talk about banning? What did I miss????
A lot of people got ban because they found people to help them buy items, but I'm not sure about switch so
@cedar yew : TGC doesn't disclose ban policy but this seems like an exploit to me.
@sage linden : TGC made a mass ban wave in the past few days for those who they found violating TOS
It's generally not recommended to let someone else have your login credentials, and that can indeed be considered a break of ToS (also).
So if they don't have my login credentials... 👀
Yeah that's kinda risky tho
I see, thx
I don't think it's allowed here discussion of breaking TOS here, but TGC may log where did you login and that can be suspicious
Btw, this question could have been asked in #questions-and-help also. 🙂
Hiiii
Now why the new tasks are like "all are catching lights ,, all are meditation...etc" doing tasks in different maps is time consuming 😭 I was happy with the new candles system to do the tasks and collect candles in the map where the tasks are that's it !!
But now I'm forced to fly for long distance in most of the rleams and ending up without collecting normal candles :").
Enchantment is my third favorite season, so I'm personally glad that we're testing all the ark lights
Can I ask. Is using a second account from the same phone a violation of the rules of the game ?
Technically no. The terms of service only mentions using an alternate account to give yourself an advantage, namely by heart trading with yourself, breaking the rules. But alternate accounts are a pretty grey area. Also, that question would have been better suited in #questions-and-help 
I’m sure the quests won’t be all at once when they’re live.
Now they’re just like that for testing 
well that’s a task of a beta tester, beta version is for testing purposes
Ah of course I know that but I'm afraid of that it will come to live since I think everyone is doing them normally 😅 I've sent a feedback but I was going to discuss or to see if they are being accepted
I hope so

yeah the beta daily quest schedule is not indicative of live (obligatory #beta-faq
) we had a very large number of quests to be tested and the most efficient way is to schedule 4 a day than try to mimic the live schedule for consistency's sake.
[Jump to message](#beta-discussion message)
How long has this bot been here 
Long long time, at least July 26 2019
cyan light? that should be in the valley, but is not active for me... is this a beta bug today?
Cyan light is in the area before you go to prairie
Blue light is in valley
doh! forgot that one! tyvm James 😊
Question, is the Server Maintenance only for Live or does it affect Beta too?
Beta maintenance is announced in #beta-announcements, not #news
Okay, thank you!
"I can't play Sky, imma play Sky"
I wish we had reactions back, I need to add a
to that X)
Me
Boi the gloating spirit's hair is so very gender
Hey @void cipher, it looks like you shared an invite link in a public channel. Sky invites are single use and it's best to share them through DMs
Cyan light?
ok that makes me feel old
Yee
So how does the green light make you feel?
Play Green light by lorde that song fits me waiting for the light
😌
Play Red light by f(x) and stomp all the crabs to the ground.
hiii does anyone know when little prince comes out?
is the instrument trick to avoid the the krill only the sitting instrument now? i lost 10 wing hahaha.
#news message
@formal lintel yes
yus ty I thought I remembered seeing it there tbh but I thought it was removed lol
I feel like this is ktjn's way of saying "never" nicely
I'd be so happy if the Little prince quests would be redoable again after season completion. They are almost as good as any area I like visiting.
i'd just like to be able to redo seasonal quests in general
I agree it would be nice to redo quests
especially since it's possible to miss parts of them the first time through. Time to #beta-feedback
hopefully it's not a trademark/copyright issue
If gen chat can do it, I thoroughly believe folks can behave themselves well enough to get the slow mode reduced to that level. If i meant never, I have no qualms about being blunt and saying it.
This season is different in that the quests take place in other realms than the actual seasonal one, and there are no changes to the seasonal area either.
I'm not making any sense. Other seasons also had quests outside its own realm, but...not quite like this.
Enchantment and it's lights: ( ꈍᴗꈍ)👍
Agree, the quests have more interaction and story driven with the prince, i love when the prince suprised 
Well, I have yet to see the quests with text, so hoping the last two work as they should for me.
Aw you missed all the dialogue before?
Are all these seasonal quests going to be once only in the season due to constraints this time? No repeats like assembly had in dailies?
Probably but we never know. Beta is beta 
How many does the scarf now cost? Without the suit?
$15
Yeah, tib's right! thank you
Please note beta prices are subject to change anytime
When will IAPs release?
When they're ready
Very true, just we got to eat assembly seasonal quests multiple times last season on beta...but I would see why the LPP quests are less designed to be repeated...imagine all the cutscenes over and over again on dailies!
i know there is no rule to have them as dailies just wishing to try them out again before live because I loved them , just my opinion
That is not known until tgc officially announces it
No one said it's a rule to have seasonal quests as dailies 
I'm just really worried that all will be closed when the season ends due to copyright again
I hope not... 
All items directly related to LP will not return due to copyright. Most likely, the quests will also disappear when the season ends cause we literally interact with LP 
Quest look like no
Gotta record and take screenshots in both beta and live, then
lmao reactions are still dead what-
I do wonder how it’ll work with the quest and spirit cutscenes after the season ends, I mean, the prince is still there in the cutscenes 
Or does it not matter because it’d be old? 
I'm also thinking this season will be more like the older ones and we won't be able to do the quests after the season ends. Which also goes back to what I said before about there being no visible changes to the seasonal area, like in the latest seasons.
But what about the seasonal spirits’ memories that could possibly come as ts? 
Yea even the rose garden pagoda does not (critical missing word) stay transformed after quest 4 in the seasonal area.
Not sure about spirits returning as ts but they are not copyrighted characters so I don't see why not
We don't know what will happen after the season ends in live but seasonal spirits are not so much main characters as the Prince or the rose. It's also possible that everything will stay. We will see.
Same, Omega.
I hope everything stays, especially the quests
I mean the spirit memories, where the prince talks to them
I like the area a lot, the rest isn't as interesting to me.
Hmmm, true, how would that work if we can't have LPP to help relive them as ts, maybe they could make our skykid ask the questions instead?
The spirits and Starlight Desert are most likely staying, since they're not directly from the story. Meanwhile the quests are what I'm worried about, because it has the prince himself in them
As for the sword pants and iaps I'm fine with those being unavailable after the season as long as I can get them all, especially the sword pants
Wait no, the spirit memories might have to be changed, since the dialogue is almost like the dialogue in the novel, maybe exactly the same
Yea I think that is what people were flagging up
well the thing is the cosmetics are likely limited due to the fact its a sales item
the quests are different they don't bring revenue directly
its possible for the quests they secured a long term license
they would have to unless the questgiver just disappears after the season
maybe theyll just omit the cutscenes and give us the emotes
Just realised this season is the first season to be able to see ||eden|| from its area, coincidence i think not 
When will the next invite wave come? 
I think it's becuase the seasonal area is closest to Eden 
it's also the first season in vault and the first open area in vault
Do we know what is the price is for the royal green cape?
true
it's a bit odd, eden being invisible in other seasonal areas places them outside the main story, but now we're always reminded of our goal in starlight desert yet we don't move towards it
I think they only send out waves when they're needed now
sad noise
Where is the rainbow in vault pls
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
Try #questions-and-help as there are no rainbows in beta right now
Are all the capes in the new season gonna be black?
I think the pants of the Gloating Narcissist deserved a better design
The capes from seasonal spirits yes
But it’s a collab isn’t it?
At least it’s better than nothing, you can cosplay as the valley elders
It’s been more than a week without reactions (unless something big happened recently that changed it idk)
HOLY CRAB, THE SLOWMIDE
What the slowmode?
Eh. Been worse
Yeah it's definitely better now
It's been like this about since the season began testing, although I think it's gotten a bit better now. But yeah, it'll go back to normal eventually if people are able to behave and be respectful enough (which I think it's getting there again)
I love how when people have a sudden common realisation about TGC's capitalistic primary agendas, they limit the freedom of speech of the community by preventing the people to communicate within themselves as a group and it actually works. It makes me think that we as a capitalist country in the US are going to make it after all
what
even during the heated of moments this chat has never been muted
there is nothing stopping anyone from talking about their opinion
if you're talking about reactions it actually encourages you to voice out your opinion through words rather than following others
sir 😃❓
They never said people couldn't discuss the issue in a respectful manner, the problem was when people started calling each other names and personally attacking other players for having different opinions. That kind of behavior goes against the rules of the server and the kind of atmosphere they want here, which is why they implemented some limits to prevent that. But you're still free to talk about what you like or don't like about TGC's decisions and send in #beta-feedback. And they actually did end up making some changes based on what players said so 
I'm talking about the "You can't share more than 1 opinion for 5 minutes" while the topic slides and changes. I'm talking about changing an IAP for a ridiculously priced item that will obviously make people pay unlike most items in hearts.
I really feel like TGC has imposed its "You're going to pay whether you want it or we make you feel pressured by time and a ridiculous amount of candles that will prevent you from having any TS that comes between them"
Aoutch. For having assisted a lot of these arguments I can agree that those issues occurred but were clearly not systematic to justify the constant muting of the crowd
I hope there was no point at which anyone suddenly realized TGC is a for-profit company. That has never been a secret. It's a fairly common complaint in this channel to mistakenly equate moderator controls with censorship though, and I'm sorry you feel that way. Moderators in this server are community members and volunteers, and while we enforce rules outlined by the server owner (TGC), we operate autonomously. Our primary objective is to keep members cooperating with each other, keep the environment welcoming and supportive for members. Complaints of any form are always welcome, as long as they treat other people with respect.
I do agree that some of the prices for things have still been kind of high, but at least for this season it's a bit different because TGC are not the only ones making decisions here. It's a collaboration with another company that owns the rights to the LPP content and imagery, so they have some input in how they want the event to work as well. We don't know everything that's going on behind the scenes there and what exactly they are allowed to change
Dude, it’s a game COMPANY, not a game charity
but if you don’t want an item of course you don’t have to pay, it doesn’t stop you from playing this game
To put this another way, any restrictions imposed in chat channels exist only to remind members to be respectful to each other and enable us moderators to do our jobs effectively. During the height of the most recent wave of complaints there were too many arguments, too many people disrespecting each other, and too many reports sent directly to mods about problems, arguments, differing interpretations of events and conversations and we were overwhelmed and unable to effectively run this channel. We decided on a few measures to slow things down so arguments wouldn't continue out of control, so people wouldn't feel their constructive advice or criticism of the company was being shouted down.
Oh just to clear any confusion, I'm sorry I was not saying you were ill intentioned as a person or anything of the sort. Sorry if it may have come across like that. I was more kinda upset by the fact that this method was applied in a time where a communication was needed and a lot of pressure had been accumulated. I'm just really surprised that just changing the means by which they charged us and just left us unable to proactively express ourselves when it was confusing worked as a tactic and did not cause any more commotion
is slowmode of 5 minute censorship/muting? you clearly still can express your whole opinion in a single paragraph with nothing stopping you
at the same time the same limitation is for every single member of the community
its not gonna get your opinion buried
I think the slowmode is one minute now? Nope it’s 2 mins
Yes and you're doing a good job thank you for your help and for actually staying patient too because you guys are actually quite open to answer stuff in general
I don't get that last section of "left us unable to proactively express ourselves." #beta-feedback, which is read by TGC staff, was never closed to suggestions and feedback. If you want your voice heard by TGC, the feedback channels are the best channels. With how this chat was zooming that weekend, I highly doubt anyone at TGC was able to back read any of it. (To reiterate: this chat and other public channels aren't 100% monitored by TGC, that's why the mods and shepherds are here, to moderate and direct chat accordingly.)
you're still mistaking motives and actions. TGC staff did not choose any of the controls we put in place, and feedback is still accepted in the normal (and most effective) channels, those being the "feedback" channels. Changes were enacted in the game due to player response. And @carmine thorn, TGC staff do read those channels. Not every member of the staff reads every message, but it's all read, cataloged, and at the very least summarized to show player sentiment
You seems like expressing yourself perfectly right now
reactions got removed because folks were putting 🦵🔨and 🪓just because someone had a different opinion
Sorry, it probably came out wrong, I meant public channels, not feedback ones.
And this includes people who were trying to defend TGC using those reactions to bully people who were upset. Lots of people were expressing a lot of emotions during that time, and it lead to many misunderstandings.
Back to beta topics: Anyone else have success with Eden reset after the update? Worked here for the first time since the issue. No more wonky workarounds needed here to force the statue reset.
When is the link hair making appearance in the live game itself
since it's part of the Switch pack then most probably during switch launch
anyway uh
only saying here as it hasn’t gotten a response but would anyone like to help me with reliving a couple seasonal spirits
I too feel it is more like a tactic rather than calming things down
a tactic to help us calm down and be respectful to each other? is that a bad thing?
Wait what happened here-
Just some people who are too free with their lives to talk nonsense, trying to spread their agenda, pulling people who had the same IQ as them on their side that's all
Thanks for asking! I like the tie-in to The Little Prince. The stories work here. The individual spirits and their memories have good characer design. I like the star merchant and performer best. All the others feel like the standard carry/chase spirits. The little prince storyline is unsatisfying because it feels designed for first-person. When I am with my friends, we can't experience it together (like Assembly which was great!)
But at the same time it's great for individual players who enjoy taking pictures too, cause sometimes when it's merge with other players, it's hard to have a satisfying picture with people blocking the way
But the con to this is unable to experience with friends you wanna be in photos with
I like the darker cosmetics/capes, everything mixes well with other seasons. The new emotes are really fun/expressive.
I think that could be handled if it was a different experience if you were holding hands (stay with friends) or not (experience solo) I think some of the temple scenes did/used to work like that?
I didnt recall temple scenes have this feature tho, hmm
Hi I wonder that is there a script for testing server?
You might want to clarify your question there. What exactly are you looking for?
scripts for sky are not permitted, are you looking to join the beta program?
I usually read the release notes and go check the things they said changed. Also, read the known bugs channel for your device and you can get some ideas where fixes/changes are likely to be. Otherwise... just do what you normally do, plenty of unexpected issues to discover!
Oh because I saw a video that a guy can get the previous gift pack through the script
whoever it was is a hacker, running scripts to obtain unavailable items or currencies breaks our Terms of Service and can get your account permanently banned.

Oh I see and I also saw some videos about getting several season candles through the script
none of that is allowed. it will get you banned from the game. i'd recommend not watching those youtubers and if you're comfortable, it would help TGC a ton if you DM the youtube links to @hardy carbon
Now that you know it's hacking, if you have any more questions you can also send them to @hardy carbon Normally hacking discussion is not allowed in the server. Thank you!
no, to censor negativity against Tgc
Ok I got that Thank you!
we don't censor negativity, all feedback is welcome. what is NOT permitted is being rude or abusive. you can be negative without being those other things.
Wdym? #beta-feedback has always been open. Here the slowmode and disabling of emoji reactions has been set for the sake of moderation and keeping respectful communication
censor? if they really did want to censor, discussion and feedback channels shouldn't exist then
Having reactions and a low or no slowmode is a privilege, which was revoked due to poor conduct toward your fellow community members. nearly every other channel has a lower slowmode or reactions enabled.
I'd also highly recommend doing some light googling about what censorship actually is vs what you're referring to as moderation actions. they are very different things.
putting the definition of censorship on hold, if we were really trying to stifle negative sentiment we could just ban people from the server for expressing negative opinions, which is not something we do unless the individual engages in truly abusive behavior (spamming expletive, threats of violence, and so on)
moving towards a lighter subject, what’s everyone favorite spirit introduced for this season? i’d also love to hear your views on the pros and cons of other spirits 
My favorite is the King because of its level 3 emote :D and the narcissistic spirit's funny emote and its light colored cosmetics.
My favorite is the one who has nose, because you know,
he has nose
ohhh the king is definitely a fun one! i also love the narcissistic spirit because of their world. it perfectly mirrors their self indulgence. haha get it? hahahahahahahshdhdjgkrjhtkfkf
my favourite is
because reasons 
Definitely the sneeze emote and the stretching emote. The sounds are just so good
dark water soldier is just MOOD. 🖤
The sneeze emote and the narccisistic for me
I just love them :stickerShy:
Same 
sneeze emote is super cute ngl
I really like the accordion like music from the shame/drunkard spirit, and the emote itself is so nice 
My top three favorites are:
-Sneeze
-Weep
-Collector
does anyone know if eden has been fixed yet or 
imma do eden later after dinner
Hello alpha testers 👋
i know uzephi had no problems today. i might do eden as well to check on my end later today
ooh i haven’t done eden in a while! i should go later as well
Because it's you?
Hi omega tester
Oh look, the real Omega shows up
.
i can see ktjn roaming around using the greed emote, choosing her next skykid to krill 

Considering it censorship or moderation depends on own interpretation and observations. It's still a communication feature that was removed with no enough weight on their reasons. I will stick to my opinion and observations. Most emotes I saw being used weren't aggressive enough, mostly just "❌" and their kind, so of course I found that move suspicious. And, straight up blocking people isn't wise for a company which its economy is based on promoting companionship and giving their customers role in the game development, so I don't think they have that option even if they want it. No need the politeness at sending me to "google" something , I grasp the mood behind that phrase. As I stated in previous messages I no longer trust Tgc after the little prince issues but I'm still giving them good feedback when it's required @cosmic orchid
Hmm, familiar emoji face
I cant update my beta sky
are you on android or ios?
sorry to barge in real quick, but I've been completing the quests and just wanna know where the big ice peak is? I've been floating around like a chicken with its head cut off trying to find it lol 
I've been wondering that as well! But as beta testers we should do our best to figure out and test things on our own before asking. Remember that your struggles can help many players in the Live version and that feedback is extremely useful for TGC! Please submit them in #beta-feedback 
Nevermind I can play now!
yay! i'm glad you were able to solve it
I would like to take this opportunity to encourage people to give good feedback about the king hair and mask. I think most people find them both very well executed designs but that awareness could be stained by the lack of opinions about it. Some people may state them as ugly and that could be sending a false generalized message to the development team
I think you just want to feel bad without looking at facts. There are several logical errors in your message
Words do have their meaning which can be looked on Google before using them improperly in heated emotions. The problem was never with the ratio of emojis but the overall number of misusing them. Are you a mod, did you see what the mods needed to delete or got in #contact-the-mods? And lastly, if TGC wanted the silence users (which is nonsense) then not even this Discord server would have been here and they just would have made announcements and wouldn't make any user ideas to live or beta. Your sentences have a lot of emotions but no facts behind them. Please do your math and consider the number of users on this server vs the so far 50 million downloads, and a Sky staff from a 40-50 people indie company still replied to you. 💚If you feel so bad about Sky or the company, don't play it. Games are meant to be enjoyed.
In hermit valley, Follow the sun
forgive if my understanding is limited but, the way I interpret your statement is that, you see these moderation actions is censorship and will not change your mind about it because thats the way you see it?
I see
thank you!! 
It's as if posts or reactions that break the #rules can't be deleted or something... 
Censorship and Moderation are totally separate thing
*puts on reading glasses* so now its suspicious to remove reactions as a preemptive measure to keep users from harassing others just cause they don't agree with them, and since these reactions were mostly on posts defending tgc this is clearly about censoring users who don't support tgc, and not a safety concern
Thank god, me still not forget where is that cyan light is..
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
i just realized i might get my 11th wedge on beta today 
that's your opinion and I have mine. I don't found illogical errors or any nonsense in my message. I will stick to my opinion, tgc can't straight up and completely silence people for expressing themselves even if they want it, because that would be against their company's efforts to bond with their customers, wether those bonds are true in nature or not. But silencing emotes doesn't completely break that good-willing attitude. If I keep playing or not it's irrelevant, still you're entitled to think my opinion comes from a heated sentiment, though it's not, but that's also irrelevant. I believe in my observations and you believe in yours. Have a nice day
I actually agree with you. It also wastes my message and sends me into cooldown just because I wanna agree/disagree with another beta tester.
Economy can’t be base on promoting companionship, not for any company. otherwise TGC can just give LP company some hugs as payment for LP copyright. And what do you mean by you don’t think they have option? banning ppl who has abusive behavior or threats of violence is their right and it’s a fact
Yea, me too
most of the reactions weren't showing defense towards tgc and most of the reactions weren't harassement. That's what I saw and I will not change my opinion. Greetings
Guys, am i the only one that feels that the Narcissist costume needs boots the same color as the gloves? I feel like it is barefoot as it is right now! 🤔
agreed, the contrast isn't that aesthetically pleasing 
beta players not suffering from maintenance B)
i personally find that having to type out a message to agree or disagree with another user forces each user to think about why they agree or disagree with them, and thus encourages deeper discussions, as long as everyone is civil and remembers to be kind. but my viewpoint on the current state of this channel might be different from slightly newer beta testers. i still remember the 30 minute cooldowns... 
Yup, need some foot attire. But we still can give a feedback #beta-feedback 
What are your opinions about the king hair and mask?
I already did 🙂
oh my god hugs as payment... got me wheezin
This. We should take the time and think why we agree or disagree with someone's opinion, regardless of slowmode.
I find the hair is good enough but that mask is horrible, is one of those mask i would never wear (but thats just my likeing)
i remember people asking for a frog mask 
that's not to say that i don't want reactions back, i still miss them 
anyways, back to beta. i don't have much of an opinion on most of the cosmetics for this season, except for the capes. i love the shape of all the capes except for the flat one with the fold in the middle. it feels a bit off to me. but perhaps tgc still has time to adjust the designs
They got crab mask instead
I think the hair is oke, but I personally dislike the mask, and wouldn't wear it
why bother adding cosmetics no one wants to wear 
I bet they were thinking it a little greener than the mask king
Lamplighter cape? That one is my personal favorite, although it does kinda look like the base game black cape. Those folds can be hard to find
yup they wanted those japanese-style cute frogs
i mean. owl hair was hated by the community at the beginning... people didn't think it was ult worthy. now look at how the community feels about it
time can change a lot of opinions
Frog mask will be loved by memers..damnnn my mistake
As someone who was berated and attacked, literally during that fiasco, I can say, it wasn't censorship. It was proper moderation. When someone threatens to Dox you, that's taking it too far.
I think there are people of all kind of tastes, some more lighted, sone more colorfull, some more dark!
I still can’t believe people would threaten to dox over a video game about friendship.
its tradition to have a beard/mustache/weird mask every season
So glad this is finally brought up and I hope it is changed but I don't think the word will be spread enough at all.
i love both but i probably won’t wear the frog mask as much as other masks in the game
Oh, good lord...

I think the mask is none of that... it just weird to me
But I agree in that some people could like it, and there's nothing wrong with that
i wear mustache mask sometimes in beta for fun, and mix the mask with hairs that don't match it
you never know what silly combos you can make, and who knows, maybe we'll get more cosmetics that will match the frog mask later on
and yikes uzephi
i didn't realize that it got that far
True
I would wear frog mask with 
Sometimes my skykid will look silly while candle run. Need to change time to time
The frog mask reminds me of those lawn fixtures that shoot out water. 
I saw some people leaving feedback about this before, but not sure if it will be enough tho
Ok but
Why the hell do people only play the game just to have cosmetics? Like yeah expressing yourself is fine, but using them to flex on others? Why? My friend met some people who kept saying "I want your pants they look so cool". My friend was wearing Rhythm Welcome pants, the only rhythm pants she has, even though she doesn't really like them. She's using them as a substitute for other pants. And when she responded something like "Sorry but I can't give them to you", the others only went ":(". Again, why care for cosmetics only? People don't see the actual value in spirits, and now people don't see the actual value in the game at all. Why can't people be glad that we're able to customize ourselves in the first place. Imagine if we weren't able to.
(Sorry about this I just wanted to say something regarding cosmetics)
Hi what exactly was this fiasco about? Could anyone explain in dms perhaps as not to clutter this chat? Also so sorry for the ping.
Sooooooo how's beta?
there’s waaaaay more in the game that I keep feeling is overlooked or not talked about, I feel you
I would suggest looking back at this channel around may 29th and 30th. A lot of messages (edit: and reactions) had to have been moderated due to breaking the #rules, but a good chunk of them are still there.
Exactly, that one part of The Little Prince directly expresses how I feel about Sky at this point (the one you have).
I started just before prophecy, and I have the prophecy pants in live, I hope other newer players will be able to get those pants soon, cause I have seen newer players wanting those pants. (And besides I just want a skip ts too.)
omg are we not allowed emotes from other servers anymore :cattoCry:
I do play only for getting the cosmetics, because it's what entertaints me the most in Sky, but it's important for me to remember to enjoy the game even when I don't have some stuff I like, because I might get it later if it comes back a ts anyways
Sky has another stuff like beautiful views and a wholesome community, it's nice to focus in that sometimes as well
it’s fine to want stuff but that’s not inherently the only thing in and about the game is the point
Two words: Wing Fiesta.
among other things, but the most fun I've had in this game is the shenanigans my friends and I get into.
external emotes were turned off here because it got spammy. they'll come back when the channel calms down, after reactions come back which might take a while. its not the first time this has happened
Ah I use Discord on mobile, is there any way to quickly access it without scrolling up for a long time?
I am a collector, that is in my nature, but that is not why I play Sky. It is such a beautiful and chill game, full of nice people and diversity.
you can search lol
Yes, that's how I feel about assembly and dreams, I want others to get what they want, regardless if I have it or not
@paper blade That's completely valid! I fully agree with your statement, sky is beautiful indeed
Search: from:Uzephi#1337 hard boot
I think I was the first person to crash the update and posted to see if anyone else needed to hard boot their phone on the first quest.
Oh, yeah maybe it will be like the bat mask and the wave cape, those two items look really good together.
also! for the record, people do and can value different aspects of the game 😳😳😳. there’s absolutely no rule book or no specific way you’re supposed to or expected to enjoy the game.
exactly
X2
Yep
Indeed
If you enjoy playing, then it's ok
You are supposed to follow community guidelines per the TOS, so things like having fun krilling people would be against those guidelines. (It is a form of greifing)
Sorry for changing the topic in the first place. I've been upset lately and wanted to say how I feel somewhere, so I headed over here, so I can hear what others have to say.
I love the new black fluffy cape tbh, Idk why but it makes me feel like high society like when I had 20 candles as a moth. 
well of course, as long as it’s consensual and with friends, i think it’s okay. but this is excluding any harm, that is. i never included that. not sure where you exactly you got bit but i suppose i agree. but do keep in mind people genuinely do not know of those tos, at least some. maybe literal children, yknow? we never know ahaha.
I think it's oke to krill people if u have their consent lol
But definitely I think this applies whenever there's not consent or a sense of companionship from both sides on what it's happening
@Bizarre_Realm51#3203 it's ok, and I understand why would u be upset💚
No matter what, Starlight Desert so freaking gorgeous. It just like opposite bright of Sanctuary Island to chill desert
what if we don’t mention beta content in gen chat 😳 wouldn’t that be pog and super epic and cool?
OH THIS IS BETA IM SO BLIND HELP I GENUINELY THOUGHT THIS WAS GENERAL GOODBYE IM CRYIGM
chilling at the small island at the beach makes me really wish i was there
I read that as chili desert and now I want chili. 
gen chat? what's that? i only know beta
i live here
haha its ok. you have no idea how many times i've mistakenly thought that questions and help was beta, and tried to redirect users to questions and help. 
Do I need to start using commands again? I never go there anymore though because it's...something else
LOL IT'S OKAY DW
MY FAULT, I THOUGHT THIS WAS GEN
BUT YEAH USE COMMANDS CAUSE ITS CRAZY THERE
my two cents.
i’m just extremely tired of seeing the refusal of multiple well explained decisions to keep this channel safe for the community and continue to give judgement on the moderation because “it silences my freedom of speech and it’s censorship.” it does silence, and that is the consequence of not realizing how damaging words can be especially when you take account that sarcastic and negative responses no matter the context can be seen as malicious in text. i have seen constant harassment from both sides and seen the amount of threats and inappropriate reactions that had to be manually removed by the moderation team. i understand that some of you may be upset about reactions not being a thing but there’s much more to the community other than arguing about something that was removed due to said harassment. galileo what you’re stating is definitely not what i witnessed and i’m sorry that you feel that way, but do realize that others who are saying otherwise has already explained to you on why things are still as they are now. people who were defending tgc were also involved and received consequences as well, please stop twisting the narrative that only those who negatively view tgc were targeted with the removal of reactions. everyone is in the same boat and it’s up to the community to treat each other fair and mindful. take those steps first before arguing over whether or not it’s “censorship by malicious intent.” i really do apologize that this message is badly written and it takes away from the current convo but i wanted to share my feelings, i’ll delete this in a bit
. please continue with your conversation 
This is completely valid, I agree
YOU DID IT TOO?!?!
true!!
also i wanna apologize this entire time i thought i was in general, and that’s why i was so sad to see external emojis/reactions gone, i cannot believe this
I WAS ALSO CONFUSED ABT THE COOLDOWN PLS IM SO EMBARRASSED
Bri you're okay

i am in absolute pain
Hahahaha

that’s okay bri, it’s completely normal to mess up.
channels can be hella confusing
i really do care about this community a lot, and i get really upset easily especially when people aren’t able to give each other some space because some don’t want to bring down their boundaries in order to view each other’s issues. i just wish that everyone here is able to feel a lot more comfortable together as time passes. i’m a very naive person though so do take my words with a grain of salt.
what happened then was probably the worst i've seen this channel get to since rhythm beta
i was actually surprised that the cooldown didn't go over 10 minutes after that, and felt that just taking away reactions was pretty tame honestly, but this is coming from a person who saw what happened right before the feedback channels became private, so i understand if many don't share the same sentiments
/Wait, the feedback channels were once public ?
I thought it was already private since the start, since feedback needs to be pure from the player themselves. I can't imagine it being open at all 
Oh dear
I think the frog mask is super well done and it doesn't deserve to be edited (at least not its shape) Not everything has to be cute to be "good", and that frog mask combined with the king's hair or pointy hat give a more "dark" and "serious" feeling which I'm convinced is necessary for some cosmetics to have
oh no. you used to be able to read and respond to others in the feedback channels. but rhythm beta got so bad to the point where people were insulting and arguing in the feedback channels, so now they're private.
i play sky while collecting cosmetics and admiring scenery while keeping socialization to a decent level as i have difficulty finding casual subjects to talk about
its really true all player's experiences are varied
but being in beta as a whole i really like following the growth of sky itself
I got u
The exact opposite thing happened to me
Once I thought gen chat was beta and wrote "omg reactions are back"
Then realized I was in gen chat and went 😳 oh
So, it happens, dw
quetzalcoatl, found your opinion pretty valid, thanks for sharing💚
edit: got u with the cozy chat as well
Sometimes confusion happens😅
||from what I've seen, yes we are entitled to our opinion, but given that people have already stated that it was the consequences of misconduct during that time (and is not censorship), still saying it is censorship and silencing might be misinterpreted by others also viewing this channel and will take that as a fact||
My favorite part of the frog mask is seeing our skids’ faces. Reminds me of masquerade masks. I think it could be a way to incorporate masquerade masks in a future season or event 🐸
ooooo a masquerade season? sounds fancy i like. 
i once thought beta was cozy and panicked because i nearly sent a message saying something along the lines of “hello cozy!”
i actually enjoy frog mask, though my friend isn’t as excited over it and i see where their critiques are coming from. oooh it does have masquerade feel 
not me searching up if bearded frogs are real-
frog mask isn't my favorite, it is quite interesting to wear
frog mask is menacing (maskless) and silly at the same time
but i really like the crown tho, hairstyle included
we need some sort of royal cane to go with the crown lmao
I'm not too big of a fan of the hairs this time around. I can't quite pinpoint the reason why... but that's ok, I know that there are other players who would love them
i like the drunkard's hair a lot because its similar to my irl hair
I honestly really like the Slouching soldier's cape cuz mantles
Lamplighter is just 🤌
Hello everyone!
Does anyone else think that the animation on perfectly scored notes when playing music sheets is distracting? I sent my feedback about this too
even the hats 🙉? the cute pointy one 🙉🙉?
Are the black capes in the new season can be acquired without an AP?
we have 2 capes which are free without AP iirc
The hat isn't for me, I'm ok with my enchantment wizard hat instead
I like the shape of that one more
ah thank you so much 
Yeah, scare's hat is more of a wizard hat. The new one reminds me of a mixture between a dunce cap and those beanies that have ear covers.
a chibi runs with a bouncy pointy hat is the best thing I've seen
I am trying to get all ts
But I'm tired and I still didn't done all
You don't have to relive them all in one day
the seasonal spirits will still be there tomorrow, go take a break
I don't have them all either
Are the missing pointers when reviving ts considered a bug? (I didn't relieve spirits since a few weeks ago though,bot sure if that was fixed)
That bug got fixed sometime last week. (The day after I blindly did Dismiss.
)
I'm at PNR,
the statues on my end have resetted
Is the star cape unavailable? Did I miss the opportunity to receive it?
I recommend to read #beta-announcements 
Thank you 💞
What y'all thought about, if we have some Weekly Quest? 
Eden is our weekly quest. 
not that quest. Change quest to be hybrid Daily & Weekly Quest. The amount of seasonal candle still same
Nah, I wouldn't want a weekly quest, unless it involved the current weekly mechanic, like "ascend 10 shrines."
Eden daily quest 
Only on Sundays
EVERY. SINGLE. SUNDAY.
we still move epically slow whenever we're hit by a rock when we're grey and out of light
Kinda like the idea if we had another In-app-currency. ~Maybe ascended hearts or something like that. Would be interesting to have something like that if the devs want the seasonal ultimate gifts to come back
You mean Rainbow Hearts from Light awaits? 
Right now, we have 4 dailies per day. 28 quests total per week.
My idea is like:
•4 Weekly Quest per week(14 seasonal candle spread among quest) - want to make it have 1 or 2 quest time embargo/time to active in a same week, still ok(at least it visible to check that quest).
•2 Daily Quest per day (14 seasonal quest. This nothing change from everyday quest. But it just 2 quest, not 4.
The total amount of seasonal candle still the same per week(28).
I already send a feedback about this. But this is just my dumb idea.
Sounds fun but stressful
me like 
Ohh, didnt know a lot bout that but sounds interesting. Gotta google it 
Go do that, E candles were also Rainbow and you got them from friends I think, or maybe that was the hearts 
I liked the big Isle of Dawn and the fact you started there and not on the home island
I know
I just like them so much xD
Jeez. I googled it and old maps look awesome. I kinda like the idea of rainbow hearts but aimed at¨more exclusive" cosmetics, like tier 2 capes and returning ults, even elder cosmetics. Also, I hope those old maps will come back someday in any way, maybe they can make an alternative version or recycle those maps for another game 
Yessss
What if they add them back in Sky but has a new secret area ?
The new secret area that have pay wall of it, you need to pay a cost of candles and can join the secret area
i heard somewhere that it was hard to get rainbow hearts unless you were really popular and had a lot of friends
Wait rainbow hearts-?
OH YEAH
Rainbow hearts ?
Sky light awaits
Rainbow hearts?👀
Rainbow hearts/candles were one of the many things that were tested in pre-launch beta that had a great concept but terrible execution. You would get a daily rainbow candle everyday at Home that you could send to anyone so they got a rainbow heart, and it was supposed to promote closer bonds with others with a more meaningful gift. You could then spend these hearts on the new
props
cosmetics that were just added in game, like the instruments and the table. They were pretty expensive
In the end, all it did was make people stingy and/or resentful, reward the more popular players and encourage TOS-breaking behavior 
So if this system still hold today, 100 rainbow hearts prop=100 rainbow candles=100days. Mostly same to Sky today's heart system but cheap
Not sure what you mean. Can you elaborate 
If the system didn't scrap you can talk with your friend to send rainbow heart everyday and way more cheaper because everyday you send the heart is using rainbow candle that you can get in home for free. If they release a prop that is 100 heart's you need 100 days collab with the friend to get that prop
How many a rainbow heart or candles is if we put it into normal one ?
Because you said that we can use them for to buy new expensive stuff in the game
I actually really like that idea because it's very expensive to like everyday to send my friend a heart for 3 candles in live and that Sky: Light await's it only cost 1 candle that is free.
I guess it depends greatly on how you perceive currency in Sky. Are they gifts of kindness or merely a currency to be traded with others with cosmetics as your main goal?
Oh probably
Don’t forget you had to unlock the items in a very specific order lol
Not saying one of these outlooks is better or more right than the other. But this is a complex topic when it comes to the vast community and having this sort of more exclusive currency weights on that balance
Also about sending heart's exploit I may have an idea, every player must bind a phone number to send hearts to each other. If the player don't bind a phone number they can't send or receive heart's
I just see btw that beta is not that actif than before
So server merge take too long on place like the ||8 players place|| and the 2 4 doors players in vault
I just can't cr or get the onky spirit or wl I didn't collect because the server don't wanna merge
No plz no
I don't like phone number system
I got too much problems with that
Not everyone have a phone number
And privacy issues too.
Yea I don't like using phone number
How would that work for switch or future platforms that may get sky in the future? 
When there's nothing to test, beta goes to sneep and I would suggest not worrying about multiplayer mechanics, unless you use #beta-looking-for-group or friends
I see
So I probably need to wait
Bro gws
Once I get my hands on that fox pack in live I am never taking it off
I don't like this idea at all because I don't have a phone number anymore.
Oh
will the seasonal spirits system ever come in live :0 ?
Hopefully
You mean all past seasonal spirits? Highly likely since it was announced on #news (which is a live channel) and posted on all of TGC's Social Media Accounts. It might take a while tho, just like when they announced 'Daily Light System'
I do know on the skyshop acc on Instagram they hinted at how the sleepy traveler spirit is “going on a long journey to bring back some friends” and I’m assuming that’s referring to the return of the spirits haha
Question
Should I save up for pass or switch pack?
Depends on what you want more I guess
And how active you are, in Adventure pass you still have to collect seasonal candles to unlock cosmetics, if you think you can’t play everyday, I guess the Switch Pack might be a better option. However, the Switch Pack is more expensive
its not going away so buy it whenever u want
Switch pack stays forever so no need to rush on that
Oki thanks
Sorry does anyone have the price chart for the season? I searched for price but could only find the rainbow one
We’re discouraged to do price charts when things are still in beta because the prices are subject to change. Either a lot of effort goes to waste or people might think those prices are final already while they’re not
there's only 3 winged lights in the new area right?
Yes afaik
thank you

new area has candles but treehouse doesn't 
I’m absolutely against seasonal areas having candles, and since the main purpose of the treehouse is a more cozy social hub, it makes sense for it to not have any candles
we only ever get new areas added into the game via new seasons though (i.e. starlit desert and forgotten ark are still seasonal areas the way i see them, but they're not designed as hangout spots first and foremost like the treehouse), and i feel like candle runs are going to get stale if we don't get more options to vary our routes -- i can see where you're coming from though in terms of not wanting candles in areas where you're meant to sit around and chill
that makes sense actually
treehouse is an exception then,
I’m not against it. Having candles in seasonal areas adds variety to candle runs, and to be able to do a lot of things in sky, we need candles. Running the same base maps are repetitive, and i like to go to Sanctuary and Dreams for candles. Sometimes we end up stopping there in the middle of a cr just having fun. Without candles, the actual possible activities in a seasonal areas are so little its not appealing/unique? enough to just go there, when we can do the same in other places with candles too. 
I wonder how much easier would it be if we got wax from meters walked instead of running around the realms searching for wax
Then we would truly be awarded for hanging out with friends
But I can imagine that all the areas would be kind of abandoned that way, maybe
or interactions with friends. sure, there would be organized groups, there always are. but there will be people who actually do it too

The Ark doesn’t have many candles - it doesn’t need many.
also I’m willing to argue again that I feel candles in the Trials takes away from the whole fact that they’re introducing something new and distant from the game; adding candles means there can and will be people doing them for the candles and not for the challenge
though I’m probably looking too much into it, they work as rewards but they feel out of place
though it might make sense, if you’re doing them for candles, that it’d be worth the challenge
just thinking about something I read that the reason they didn’t initially add candles to the Fire Trial is so that players wouldn’t put themselves through that for so little on a regular basis
thinking about it it makes sense as a side reward - “you’ve made it this far, nice job! you deserve this for your effort”
and it’s also nice to see them
but it also increases replayability?
will contribute more to this than just this later
I always understood the addition of candles in new places, such as the trials, to be related to the new chevron system: so that players could choose where they wanted to focus their session and still get enough candles.
Really? Like office cape? Cool, that's good to know 😋
Yes, not limited by time 
New Season Area: Candle Cakes
:
That’s a very good point.
I actually know few friends who only does trials (since Daily Light) and the realm with Rotating Candle Cakes
Actually, it's me. Once you managed speed run trial, it's the most effective way to farm candle 
What's up with bug report #58034 in #beta-bugs-android ? I see Sky ID
Yikes, not a good idea.
Oh god-
<@&600489743716712458> this message above 
ok, i'm sorry for this ping then
It's usually enough to send your concerns to #contact-the-mods instead of drawing attention to it here.
Yeah I already went over to #contact-the-mods
I delete it for privacy, I think they noticed
Good idea :)
Why was I notified , I’m not a community elder 😂
Well, we like having you here and I miss you in the game.
Hiii, how's the fish?
😂 thanks , ahhh yeah , I’m online at the weirdest times nowadays. Usually late around 23.00 🤗
I'll try to to catch you some day. 🙂
Congratulations on your promotion to moderator! :kappa: (oh right, no external emoji here)
Hi alex, how are you? 
Oh, they you are.
Thanks Alex 😂
How much is the fox bag pack guys? Pls tell me its not that expensive
Ur pfp😂😂😂lol
$10 as of now
Remember that it's not official until announced in #news
Hahahaha, doodle from my youngest
Ah I really like the seasonal capes so I don't need to spend 50 hearts on the black cape
When will the new ui come to live, i can't take the pain anymore 
I really would like to join the beta testing for Android 😭
Read #beta-faq, everything about beta is there 
Yes, I read, but it continues to say full. And maybe it is full or maybe its an error? Generally, how long will it say full before one can join ..any idea?
I apologize if im being difficult
React to the roles given in #beta-faq then the #beta-signup-info will appear. Invites will be sent there, Invites are random so noone knows when next ones will be there. No need to apologize 
@spark lance yes
Agreed the balance between non ap and ap is very good lol. But if i had to be a little selfish i wish they put drunkard's hair as non ap because it's my fav 
If little prince season is not a season for solo player, i don't know what will

@pale junco thank you. I did the following as for clicking on the both mods. I really appreciate your help! I shall wait from here on out 😚😊
You got the beta update ping too, so you'll get notified whenever a new update comes to beta so i'd suggest if you don't want notifications for update then you can click the
again to remove the role 
Again, I thank you kindly!!!@pale junco
No problem 
@pale junco i hope you have a lovely day!
should I buy the ults now or wait?
I'm waiting as of right now, just in case what happened in assembly testing happens again with this season's ults

What happened with Assembly...oh, wait, you mean the way there was one extra ultimate? But if you already bought the previous IAP that shouldn't be an issue. I now have all 3 ultimates and 2 hearts to spare, because of the reshuffle.
Yeah, but I still think the scarf should be one of the ults, since the prince pants are an ult too
And yes I got all iaps available on the first day
I have all 6 seasonal hearts rn and will probably have 2 extra for conversion
Sorry, I thought the question was whether to wait or not. 
Nah it's fine, don't worry
I also am waiting to buy the ultimates in case of any changes which is probably slight chance from now
I think I'm going to wait until live for this season to make it a surprise
I kind of think it's good to test everything in the season while it is in beta.
That's what testers are for in beta 
I do understand wanting to wait, because of things that happened in past beta seasons, but because of those bugs they didn't happen in Live. We sometimes have to subject ourselves to the "bad stuff", so that it doesn't happen in the real release of the season.
This is the first season I've fully tested so far, so I'm still a bit new to this
But yes
We're not here to test the cosmetics, although it's super nice to be able to get all of them and so fast. Very few cosmetic items need testing beyond come clipping issues. The most important part of beta is to make sure game mechanics are working properly.
Yep! I still haven't done the quests
I did all the four available quests at once, which in hindsight might have been a bad idea. But in doing that I also discovered they weren't working properly for me (and maybe some others, who hopefully also reported it).
I have waited a few weeks before asking, and have searched, but I have found 3 winged lights in the new area. I have heard there are 4? Help!
I've only found three
3 wl afaik
Speaking of WLs, they were EXACTLY where one would suspect they can be.
If you know the locations for every WL so far you can easily point out where they are.
I originally found only 2 WL but when I heard there's a 3rd one I already knew where it is, and was correct.
the one on top of the lamp
Also I was hoping there will be another one in the star collector's area,
Since it's a dead end with very little wax I'm afraid it'll be completely ignored and rarely visited
I wished there would be one inside the well
I have no idea where the well is tho-
hiii, can anyone tell me how long little prince season will last?
In beta, as long as needed
In live, we'll actually know the exact amount of time when it starts. As of now, it's thought to be 77 days in live
ohh okay thank u so much 
The wls in the area were really easy to find, it must be because i got used to know where usualy the wls were placed
I ate it 
skybruh.... 
How many kids could a skykid kid if a skykid could kid kids?
Why don’t you answer that question yourself skybot

Skybot's answer would be 42
Hey beta testers, quick question, is the birthday hat on beta? Cuz a friend sent me a pic and uh.. Did I miss it
Hey will seasons ever come back? Just a little question
Yes, they did testing for the anniversary event on beta, I think it ended already though.
Seasons themselves do not repeat, but that's why the traveling spirit system exists, so people can still get some of the items from previous seasons (except for the ultimate gifts)
Y’all think the sword suit will stay out of AP?
What do you mean anniversary event?
this was given away during Sky's 1st anniversary
Kerosen, it seems like that's the plan for now at least. They haven't mentioned any intentions to change it further than they already have.
The anniversary event will be in live sometime next month, around the 18th/19th to celebrate Sky's 2nd anniversary. The hat StarDream mentioned was given out last year during the 1st anniversary, for the 2nd one they have a little sailor cap with 2 stars on the top that was available in beta while they were testing. There were also some new spells that conjure up cakes and stuff. At least that's what was in beta, they haven't made any announcements about it going live just yet, but probably soon-ish
I haven't been active in beta for the past weeks,but what spirit has the music sheet 22.
the sword suit is out of the ap, as stated in #beta-announcements and it's price in candles
Narcissist I believe
Thank you random person who just helped me get
expression via the guide feature 
Omg more time 🥵that’s make it exhausting
Aye, nice, it’s coming to Live very soon
I like it, but don’t want people to rush spirits for moths possibly
or rush people through the game? unsure
Oh thank you!
I almost forgot about the guide thing
Has there been any effort on preventing griefing with that feature alone ?
Like, the whole moth krilling thing for example :0c
also it kiiinda takes away from the mystery of the world if you were to rely on the feature all the time
this is a mixed update for me - positive for people that genuinely like helping moths out and moths that want help
I wonder if the new Seasonal Spirit System will come as well at 14.0 
I am in love with the guide feature 🤩
the art implies it...
it’s coming and I am excited
/Hmm, well, the feature isn't a must to use for them, so I'd assume it just gives another option for the moths to explore.
Some will maintain the mysterious vibe, some just end up in a halt and look up guides need help. A 50:50 I'd say
Unless... The feature is introduced at the tutorial. I don't know how being a new moth in beta works right now www
Now to think of something to prevent wasteland griefing....
Those are good points...but yes, the purposeful krilling is a problem...
That’s what I was thinking since they show the welcome emote in the demonstration
There's option to let go 🤔 i think no other feature to prevent griefing... I can't think of one 
The let go wouldn't suffice
Some...maybe many new players are naive towards the krills ;;
I was thinking that there should be some sort of "invisible meter" to check if that player has done anything bad and/or if they're trustworthy enough
But..... that ends up being the shepherd system--
I guess there sadly isn’t any fool proof way to prevent that from happening, we’ll just have to hope that doesn’t happen that often 
super excited to make a link cosplay when the hair comes to live
maybe the shepherd system is secretly hidden under all this and you just can't see the meter anymore
that might explain why some people don't have the button
IM GONNA BE THE LEGEND OF ZORLDA
Eh? I thought the button was affected by the spirit collections 🤔
ah well then 
/Whirthun said that they will be watching how the system goes...
Hopefully they'll find a way to prevent the griefings somehow 
Umbrella spirit is still hanging around. How do you actually buy the items from her after completing her memories? Has that ship sailed?
you can't
you have to wait until the spirits come as TS to actually buy anything from them
And have candols

well, yes, that's a given regardless of what time
I mean in beta.. With all the event items to buy and hardly any time to CR. Getting items from TS is an overhead
but conversion candles tho, dreams gave us ridiculous amounts
Yes. I got around 800 from dreams and 250 from assembly conversions. I only have 150 odd left now(I was exchanging ♥ for that elusive Capeless and bought event stuff along the way).
Currently I have excess of 200 from the prince season. Hope I get to save enough...
But I use TS in beta as a testing ground for stuff I wanna try and use before I get them in live. So that's there...
If only Beta Sky had some kind of bank that would pay interest for accumulated candols📊📈 🕯️ 💰? 🤔
i am no longer feel as burnt out, so i'm gonna do eden. hopefully i won't get stuck 
take mee gotta test it before Sunday 
oooo sure! send me a qr 
..
There is zero expectation for beta testers to obtain TS items, we actually disabled them on beta for a long time so that folks didn't feel compelled to grind for those things, especially because they could be removed with a progress wipe at any time—that level of time and effort is better spent on Live. However, enough folks asked if we could enable them on beta as well, and we listened.
no one got bugged statues in my group 
Yay! Planning on going after reset sometime to make sure it wasn't a fluke?
yup. you going too?
Most likely. Don't know if I would be up exactly at reset. We'll see how tomorrow goes. Lots of RL stuff tomorrow and might be too exhausted to do Eden at reset.
That moment when you forgot where is Orange light 
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
Wait new eden content?? 
I think that TS is a great thing about sky and as much as we are testing and trying to help by giving our opinions and experiences about new things coming to live, having the chance to get somoe of the cosmetics we use in live give us the chance to have our own style and apearance as players, so is very nice to have them available to get, thanks Ktjin for all your help ❤️🙏🏼
Also i think that the Narcissist needs boots xd (looks shoeless :/)
When will the new seasonal spirit system arrive? I want mi flying kiss 
i am confused. the ui animation to get your first wedge played in orbit and now i have an empty wedge without a cape. 
proof
If your asking when it’s coming to live we don’t know. Beta testers don’t know when things will come to live just like other players, we all get the information at the same time as everyone else for live updates.
Alrighty 
Sorry to burst your bubble friend ☹️ my advice is just wait, once TGC has decided we’ve tested it enough and they’ve worked out all the potential bugs with it they will bring it to live 😊
Hopefully it wont take as long as the translator
I highly doubt it will! The translator is taking long because it’s run by a third party. Whereas the seasonal spirit system is not third party 🎉
Did progress wipe happened before? 👀
no, same old.
we were just testing to see if the reset bug was fixed or not. fortunately none of us encountered that issue. unfortunately someone crashed 
hmm... can anyone confirm if you can see an empty wedge in orbit after seeing the cutscene where you get your ac? i thought it was strange that the animation of getting a new wedge played, but i can't remember if that appears in live as well and its an old thing, or if its a beta bug
That didn't happen to me in live yesterday when I went to Eden. I just had the normal no wedge yellow dot up top.
so the empty wedge is in live, but no ui animation?
empty wedge? It was like the trials no wedge icon. No UI animation, but I did get the chuckle in live, again. 
i'll have to double check on my own i suppose. i didn't take any pics or videos of it because i'm smart.
another thing from looking at samba's screenshot vs mine. wow the graphics are so bad on android right now. or perhaps its just a snapdragon issue. everything is still blocky
Did you three slog through the final part of the storm, also or was that bug fixed this update? I hope it gets fixed before 0.14.0 goes live...
still really slow walking. but thanks for reminding me! we found that during endless rock rain, if a friend deep calls to relight you, there is a small window where you can jump and run, only after being relit. so the bug is linked to being unlit during endless rock rain
I want you to tell me how to insert the beta version
Hello! Beta is closed right now, but you can find out how to get in once it opens in #beta-faq
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guys do you know what happened to the seasonal green prince cape?
I recommend reading #beta-announcements 
Yes, feels weird
they plan on staggering its release for later on in the season, i hope its not too expensive as it will be an iap
Hi guys I'm new here. I've wondered that if there's any official explain that why the little prince capes are dark gray. I've tried my best to read any messages about that and I've only found the message send by others. I've known that the reason maybe to differentiate "adult" and little prince. But I really want to know if there's any official announcement about it. Thanks you guys every much for any reply.
There's not really an official announcement about why, I think, but it has been confirmed that the present colours are correct and will stay.
Okay thank you very much.🙏 This information may really influence my will whether to buy the seasonal pass. Though the mean to the color is great, I still like the original color in the story.
That's understandable, as with all season passes. A theory, which definitely hasn't been confirmed, is that TGC only has license for a certain number of items from the book; such as the Prince's iconic looks. That left them free to design the other characters' outfits as they wished.
Kinda curious.
My server has 8 players, 7 plus me
I’m the only one who is Vietnamese while the rest are Chinese.
So I ask myself a question, how did they get access to this beta… and does knock off version of Discord in Chinese has the official Sky Chinese server?
Great gratitude for the informations🙏
I can DM you for this, may I?
Or DM me xd
You do know Chinese is a language spoken in many places of the world apart from mainland China?
..
I'm sorry, I just get a little tired of this hunting down of "Chinese players". Yes, sometimes they're in beta through non-official means. And yes, sometimes they do "bad" things. But we can't keep going after everyone and anyone who speaks Chinese, as if they are all some sort of criminals. If you suspect anyone is doing something they shouldn't, just report them and move on. Otherwise, be kind and polite to others and leave the situation if you're uncomfortable. /steps off soap box/
Assuming immediately a chinese player is either a hacker or joining beta illegally is stereotyping them. And I'm chinese (not nationality)
chinese also doesn't mean it is someone from china
there is two types of common chinese languages simplified chinese and traditional chinese
traditional chinese is much more commonly used in taiwan
while simplified chinese the rest of the world including outside of china, anywhere with some degree of chinese population such as singapore and malaysia
nah man, the chinese players don't hack into beta
they just have a goodgamingchair
Have they done any background updates to make it worthwhile checking eden after reset this week?
i speak chinese, i’m from hong kong, and i play in the global server through official legal means. just because i speak chinese doesn’t mean i’m from mainland china 🙂🙂
❤️
Eden has reset for most of us who tried after the recent update a couple of days ago.
Thank you! Can I ask whether you have previously collected all statues or only some when it successfully reset?
just wondering if the bug was linked to a completion of statues that is hard with the other bug of slow movement
getting all statues in a single Eden run is almost impossible with the new slow movement after being unlit.
So the guide feature is going live already 
Worked for us too after the latest update. All the statues i could reach were savable but as Uzephi said there is not much chance to be able to get the end ones, i couldnt see those.
Yea guide feature on the next update of live, I guess next week?
I think the current version works ok but waiting to see how well it does with lots of people
Probably before switch release, when they'll add the seasonal content too
Makes sense. It would definitely help a lot of new players coming in through Switch. 🙂
Although, I still think that all the seasonal spirits being available also may be a bit confusing.
🍎什么时候有新的测试资格
We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @sudden niche. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.
Beta invite wave comes when they need more testers, there's no set time. Read the #beta-faq to get the @beta-invite role, so you'll receive a notification when there's a wave.
eyy skatergirl quests
Just read the details of the help guide in the blog. I love the sense of humour everyone at TGC has! 🥳
Quote:
'We feel strongly that Sky is best enjoyed with others and want to create more interaction points that feel intuitive and organic, situations that offer players a reason to interact aside from the obvious desire to honk loudly at each other while running around in circles.'
illegal way ofc
I do approach honking in game like I do with a squeaky toy with my dog ...honking is a universal and interspecies language...good to see TGC recognise this 
People do speak Chinese outside China so if they live in China and yet manage to get beta then it's probably sus
I just saw someone in beta with a rounded cap that looked like the birthday hat if it was some kind of beret, is that an actual cosmetic or was that person up to not good stuff
The beret is an item from 2nd anniversary event that's already ended in beta
Will that event happen in live too? I guess I must have missed it 🥲
No announcement about it yet but I'm guessing yes
can someone show which one is the little prince asteroid jacket?
The green cape, it's not available yet, we have to wait for the last quests to be available
It was available during testing for the 2and anniversary event,so yes
Will all spirits appear in live version with the new guide function?
I've forgotten what it was in beta
So I’ve done a couple of the skater girl things but not completed the daily quest. Any suggestions?
Guide function isn't related to seasonal spirits. We don't know if tgc will add the spirits with guide feature or not.
I just remember that the time between these two functions test was very short, and they immediatly released announce about seasonal
seasonal quests are being added as daily quests
who thought this was a good idea
it’s been like that the beginning
Yeah it’s always been like that 
meditation and catch the light for instance
I guess this is tgcs way of addressing those who say that the dqs are boring
can someone tell me what's broken in piggy exactly 🙉
I'm assuming everything is.
it's good to see some variety, especially with the new or long unused meditation spots 
mlk piggy has been broken in a way that it detaches if the carrier goes to open wing mode or does an emote that places the carried close to ground, here's my report #beta-bugs-ios message
Assembly SQs as DQs were causing nothing apart from frustration, just imagine the Dreams and Prophecy ones as DQs. At least they don't require other people, but take up so much time.
Sorry to hear that. On my side of things i pretty much enjoyed the Assembly quests. With dream's it's understandable that it got frustrating with all the bugs but that's something we have to report. As for prophecy, I liked them all (and I'd like to see them as DQ) edit: wish we get DQs from Sanctuary too
everytime I piggyback with someone, the game auto dropped me even when I don’t touch the screen (a reply to @fluid quail ) forgot to click
ye piggy is still very much broken, thanks hana&voi
Yeah, I agree about assembly quests. I often just skip them if I cant do them solo in live.
One of the problems is also the server split issues, especially if someone has bad connection, the activity stops and u have to redo it from the beginning
those quests are probably being added to encourage those chill moments of interactions between one another as mentioned in numerous ways, I still think u should be the one who choose how to play sky.
nevertheless I'm really fine with it in live but not in beta 🙉
I think we’re just generally testing all quests at the moment. You’re all really drawing too many conclusions about potential Live releases.
why did they make the next quest days later? i dont understand that, since we are in beta lol
Usually it means it’s not ready for testing 🤷
How so?
i mean.. quests from other seasonals, all meds, all spirits etc
Oooooh, the schedule is that way for testing convenience, it’s not representative of the live schedule 😅
ofc im not pretty active on beta neither on live, but ive seen one day, i hopped in, we had to take all lights.. man xD
okais @kindred fossil and yes i know that @fast nebula
That is what beta is for. We test whatever needs to be tested whenever it needs to be tested
Trials as DQs: I wouldn't. I don't want to complete any of the trials for a seasonal candle. It's not worth it, and I would very much prefer to spend my time on a CR.
That’s beta for ya, haha 😆

I suppose. I don't do full CRs anymore so I don't mind spending 30 mins in just one location for seasonal candles (plus I'd like a break from the usual gameplay). Tho there was a suggestion somewhere up about getting all 4 candles in one trial... That would be neat (but for those who hate air or fire, that might still be a no no)
Trials will never be daily quests, even if they were originally main quests for a season. They are way too difficult for the average player. Dailies are meant to take about 15-30 mins to complete.
I dunno. I mean, there was no formal announcement right? But yeah, they are too difficult for a lot of players
Do you mean about the trials? I do think a TGC representative once said the thing about dailies’ time frame, though. But I don’t have a link/quote.
Yeah, that's something to consider about trials. Anyhoo, no need to make trials "mandatory" if it will only hurt gameplay for players
question
ive never tried this but can u "guide" others into office using the guide feature?
would be p cool picking up moth and dropping them there (if they r standing in front of the barrier ofc)
If they have unsaved spirit in the first part of vault yes.
do seasonal spirits count too? 
Hm, not sure if that would work unless the guide happens to wear the office cape when they found the moth.
Yeah, afaik it works for seasonal spirits
No, there are no spirits to collect in the office. And you also need the cape to access it
If moth have uncollected spirit in first vault and u have, i think can take the hand 🤔 like pakka said ⬇️
What i meant if guide wears office cape and the one who asks help have unsaved spirit in the first part of vault then the guide can technically grab hands and go to office instead of spirits.
ah that's what I wanted to know! that's neat!
But there are no spirits to collect in the office, so the feature doesn’t work for that. But you can bring someone in if you’re wearing the cape.
yes that's what's this channel for 😂 plus we don't test stuff for nothing.
(also glad to see cyan light back haha)
I’m sorry, I don’t understand this comment.
it's ok.
How much do all the IAPs and AP add up to for the next season? 
9.99 per pass 19.99 for three pass
ahh my bad I thought u were asking for the seasonal pass
How about the IAPs?
IAPs so far:
Scarf 14.99, fox 9.99, asteroid cape unknown
For the seasonal quest, where is the little prince in the hermit valley?? He’s not on the peak,..
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In Hermit valley follow the sun
I just realized they put this 'secret area' in official Village of Dreams map
Yes very important 👍
I mean it's not too late to make the green robe cape an ultimate gift

Good idea, green coat cape as ultimte gift
the auto-camera jerking on the "race down the slope/village of dreams" quest is still there for me, did anyone else find it interfering with their controls as they did the quest?
send that to #beta-feedback, maybe the devs would consider your feedback
Me too. Is that normal?
it happened to me the last time we had this as a daily quest in beta, and already submitted a bug report on it back then; the jerking feels inconsistent across various tries of that quest, so i can't tell if they've actually done anything to it since
Yep nothing changed since i last did it when it was a quest. Yeti slope one was the worst. The camera pan almost throw me off the bridge this time.
Hi guys, is it possible to transfer your android beta account to IOS?
You need to wait for another invite to download beta on ios then just log in with the same account to transfer progress
Oh no, it might take a while 😪 thank you btw ☺️
Hey guys, is the switch package free for switch players or not?
Its not, the speciality of the pack that you can only buy it on switch, but it still costs money.
Oki 👀
we all got the pack in beta in old builds first before update for Androids 
Hi guys, was the prince’s cape removed? (The one with stars on the shoulders). I don’t see it (please ping response)
The IAPs are on staggered release and that one is related to a later quest so not available yet.
Cool thank you!
I thought I hallucinated it
I still have 3 spells of it, it looks like a leaf 
Man, it’s a bummer we still can’t react to comments. I’m dying to
everything
I miss reactions too
They'll probably return after next update
🤞
Hopefully! I already feel like I’m clogging up the chat with unnecessary emotes
Also happened to me, is very annoying to comolete that race
Having no issues with either race in Dreams village. Probably device specific.
yup I have that too, did slope quest only from 3rd attempt somehow
Is there a difference if you try other graphic settings? I was playing on no sparks, on an iPhone 12, btw.
I was at one bolt on an ipad. 
Me too, but it didn't go well in either race 
Currently in Eden, before constant red rain, and noticing that when you lose light it's a bit like one of the older Eden mechanics, where you are kind of stunned. Is that what you all meant with walking slowly?
You mean the mechanics of Eden back in the Old Beta?
Yea can't jump at all
walk also slooow
Nothing changed with the rain i think 🤔
Walking slowly is mostly in the constant rock rain part. We used to be able to jump and walk a lot faster without the bug. I didn’t notice less rain last time I went tho.
There seems to be less rain in the first part, or am I imagining it?
I had the same, you used to be able to bounce a bit but couldn't this time. This was in Eden and when going towards the child, I had to slow walk the whole way. Possibly intended but after doing Eden many times, it is a bit slow
So basically, we're already seeing the mechanics of Eden from the Old Beta being pushed into the Current Beta?
Ktjn says it’s probably a bug
Thanks Emma 😊
It doesn't seem to be intentional, because you do move faster occasionally.
I know theyll solve this, but it is anxious since tgc has a bout a week and a half to continue blind debugging the eden issue until the switch release
Ohhh, did ktjn confirm it 
I was thinking maybe it was because of stunlock from rocks
Side note: Eden without music is...interesting. 
It is Blep
especially during ascent
I always do Eden without music
more calm and sometimes I turn on during ascent
It is a bit like an onslaught of SOUND.
Yeah, I find the audio during ascent to be a bit overwhelming at times, as pretty as it is. The audio peaks on my phone on the loudest parts which I'm pretty sure isn't intentional. 
Because I enjoy Eden so much (sarcasm), I went ahead and did it in Live also "for science". There is definitely a difference in the area before PNR, in how you move. It feels overall clunkier. Then of course, the actual red rain area is just so slow and painful.
Clunkier in beta? Even the area before pnr?
Do you mean the few steps before the tunnel?
I also noticed that you now have to deposit light one at a time. The give light button can only show up for one statue at a time. This is most likely for controller support, but it just makes it so much slower on mobile
I mean basically from the moment you enter Eden and all the way up to pnr is clunkier and more difficult to move around. I went as chibi in Live and had almost no trouble jumping up steps and moving forward. In beta I went without chibi mask, but I am on the shorter side, but it felt like moving in treacle.
I fly most of the time but the the pre wing tunnel part is definitely harder (maybe stronger wind ?) than before.
I tend to do Eden "vanilla", since that's how most players will do it and I feel I want to test it under those conditions. But I also tried flying in that part with the three krill and it felt heavier in beta.
What does doing Eden vanilla mean? 🤔
Guys, Is this eden bug fixed now ?
#beta-known-issues message
okay...
I don't think so, they mostly announce when things are fixed
in the expected gameplay form, like just the normal way without doing anything special (oobs, flying, etc)
Is the switch pack free for switch players?

No. It’s iap
Ohh thank you! 
That's so annoying aaaaa
I don’t get where your frustration comes from. TGC has to make profit too they can’t just give everything for free. Plus if switch users got those for free, it would just be unfair to players on other platforms.
It means not doing any oobs or glitches in Eden, but just the way it was meant to be played.
Thanks for letting me know 
Any updates on the cape colours? 
Capes are supposed to be black 
No, that’s business. It is a pack that includes 2 Capes which most IAP Capes are valued at $15 dollars each so $30 right there. A hair which could be $10 on its own judging on previous hair/hat IAPs. And an instrument that could also cost $10-$15 so that pack being free would be ridiculous. $30 is very generous considering the total cost of these items separately. 
Also, it’ll always be in the shop. You can buy it at any point. It’s not going to leave the shop until you buy it.
Y’all I went to Eden yesterday and it was a nightmare…IT WAS SO SLOWWWW and I could barely move
hoping they fix this soon
I got ghost pinged here 
Hello I have a question for Sky Switch testers! Does the switch version have in game recording where the video output doesn’t have the ui like ios or do we have to use the Switch’s built in one to record gameplay? 
O my! The camera kidnapping in the two races down the slopes in the quests seems WAY worse than during the season. It just make it that much harder to complete 👎
I wonder if using a controller makes those races easier for some reason. I should go test with just screen input.
Do you need the AP to get the swordsman suit
No you do not. You just need to finish a certain amount of the season guides quests and they will be 200 normal candles
dear beta testers, is scarf now in IAP?
Scarf has always been an iap
yes/no answer could have been enough, but thank you

Any news on the seasonal emote update coming to live?
Only the blogpost so far
Live news usually won't be shared in the beta channels as well
We just test stuff, submit feedback and wait with everyone else here 😄
Oh alright thank you
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important question since im not sure if it was stated or not, is sky (on switch) going to be free with IAP or are you going to need to pay. (if this is the wrong chat, then oops)
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I’m currently doing the little prince quests. Can anyone say/give hint where he is in valley?
I opened the quest a few days ago and all I can remember is that it’s in valley and something something <- eh some words I can’t remember either 
Ah that was the place! Thank you very much 
Go to hermit valley, fly towards the sunset
Well after having done the whole cutscene and returning to the rose. The rose is telling me to go to valley again-
and yes, same location 
wait just a question, which seasonal cape is your favorite?
geographer and star merchant
and of course the scarf if it's included in this
Drunken master cape ftw
Geographer and the Lamplighter’s :3
I would definitely get the geographer if i have the pass and the money but lamplighter would be my go-to once the season starts
My favourite is the semi-capeless cape because it has special star (tulip?) pattern and has a friendly colour
£30 for two bad capes a hair and an instrument is way too much. Like an in app purchase should be £3-5 for one or two items, not £15, I could buy an entire game for that price instead of something so unnoticeable and bad as the switch pack. You're saying it's ridiculous compared to their normal prices. The normal prices are ridiculous themselves.
Why would you want to buy it at all if you deem it “unnoticeable and bad”? 
It is the switch version of the Office. Since the Switch pack isn't in beta anymore, nor is it in testing, please keep the topic in your pocket until it comes out in live with the Switch launch. (unless mods say it's okay to talk about it in live channels early) 
I think that some cost of special cosmetics and things are a little to much for some people, but also you can have all cosmetics from ts for free just playing and colecting candles, and hearts sharing with players, so if you wont or cant spend money on the game you still have the chance to have almost all things from season, but it will take time! Lets not forget that fact, you can play for free and enyou all features of the game. I belive that the discussions about prices must focus on the chance for more players could have acces to them, but the final decission is of TGC and if you cant have all, for free you can have a LOT!
Hey, how do I quit being a beta tester? I don't have that much time to play these last weeks/months and I think someone else would make better use of it, can anyone just tell how do I quit the program? 
Scroll down #beta-faq
thank you 
How to be the beta tester
#beta-faq have the info for that
Is this correct?
There are two star children in Starlight Desert
There is one large candle in Starlight Desert
3 winged light in the new Seasonal Area. (Currently, it might change before hitting live) 
Thanks for letting me know
So far, is the narcissist hair free or ap? 
right now me and someone else are watching someone buy things that cant be bought in store, like candle packs (or multiple seasons passes?) and I dont know how to report them, can someone tell me how to?
Edit: my apologies they just up and left and I can't find them again
!reportfaq