beta-discussion

[stray elk]

I didn't do the musician quest yet, I'm gonna go and smash my piano until it crashes brb

[spark lance]

im good with the recent change it is really generous of tgc to do it. im just kinda worried for the moffs that might miss out on the sword pants because its placed up so high on the tree-thing. it would break my heart to see tlp moffs miss out on the sword pants and then hate themselves for it because they know they can never get it back

[tight bloom]

I also dont mind the scarf being IAP. At least now not everything Prince related is behind IAP. So yeah, great change. Still hoping the cosmetics have different shade of dark colors instead of all being gray/black tho.

[swift edge]

I was confused as well
I honestly thought we would have moved on from this topic by now

[snow steppe]

I just saw the update, i have feeling the outfit is gonna cost a lot like... 200 to 300 candles? At least thats the worth I measure myself. I m ok with it

Probably they r working on the fox, the coding n stuffs. Idk why but i m sure they will change it. It takes time but i m ok waiting

[bitter lion]

No, I mean, many players don't think foxes are worth that without interactive function

[spark lance]

1st update:omg this is crazy,why would they put almost all of our fravorite item on IAP!!
3rd update:thank you do much!!!
I love this
Now I feel bad

[thin shell]

Exchange positions of rose and scarf cape

[fathom river]

eh? not really tho lol. it's so cute and of course story wise. a best friend for keeps. i love the fox

[vestal willow]

TGC is too kind y'know, but still they get a lot of hate after giving people what they WANTED.

[spice violet]

Fox is in the pack which means its optional isn't it? At least not everything from the season is in pack.

Beside fox is cute!

[stark cloud]

About that fox. That's not for me. Unless that fox can says something

[carmine thorn]

It can say anything you want with enough imagination.

[spring goblet]

It'll be great if the Fox actually worked as a backpack. I've always wanted to carry more than 1 instrument or prop at a time!

[paper blade]

@spark lance -a late- thank you
Omg the slowmode it's so heavy rn
@tight bloom same same, I'm very happy with the prices now but those capes they look still a little bit incomplete for me

[stray elk]

a best friend with money I'm not really against it (I do like foxes a lot so I'm a bit upset) but it's kinda ironic like buying a best friend or something, something about buying friends

but candle need to use for getting friends so yeah yeah

[cosmic orchid]

it's just that everyone can never be satisfied

[spark lance]

it would be better if the fox was real and wagged its tail maybe or you could be able to pick it up and carry it around with you maybe. that would be adorable and i would defo purchase it then

[swift edge]

If the fox acted like a pet somehow and it walked a bit in circles and sat next ur skid when u positioned it on the ground, I bet that tgc would be able to ask $25 for it and many ppl would want to give them money

[spark lance]

i mean you can place it down and it looks pretty close to having a sky pet

[wide lynx]

👀
Kinda sad how I can't react. Why is that though ?

[static saffron]

How much is the fox again?

Ty

[spark lance]

9,99 USD

🤗

[bright portal]

i hope the fox head actually faces u directionally just like how the spirits do and it wags its tail occasionally, that would 1000% sold me. Would even pay 15$ for it

[hasty lantern]

I'm up for all of the new season changes imo. I can honestly save most of my money now since they moved both of the IAP pants in AP and in f2p grinding method. I originally planned to stay f2p for the new season but looking at the new updates tgc has made. It honestly convinced me to pay for the ap/iap scarf cape, since the price change is really a bargain. The price for the new pants may be really grindy for a lot of players and you have to consider upcoming TS and Days of Rainbow items... But it all really depends if the player has good candle management or is willing to grind for crs. I really wonder why people are still making this into an arguement.

[fathom river]

woah woah. no one said anything like that. it's a matter of perspective if you put it like that. anyway. if u'r not happy with it. that's okaaay. I still love the fox

[bitter lion]

However, there are indeed many players who think that foxes can only be placed at that price, and they can reduce prices or add interaction

[stray elk]

Nah I was just being me at 1am (it was not supposed to be an argument statement, I'm done with arguments today)

[wide lynx]

This and what @swift edge said earlier would be dope skskks

[swift edge]

Basically any message that was unpopular was receiving spam of negative reactions such as
And the mods took the reacts away cuz it is hard to moderate as the chat is already. We are having better discussions ever since the reactions were turned off

[static saffron]

You made me realize it's 1 am

[fathom river]

truee. I wish it's more interactive/alive. but it's still beta so probably, I hope TGC surprise us with some amazing change to the lil fox

[spark lance]

We are grounded for misbehaving 🤭

[proud nexus]

time to grind for the sword outfit... im soo lazy tho

[winged anvil]

I had to catch up on chat because I went to talk to some people and dear god. Here’s a sum-up of my opinions on what has happened in chat within these few minutes.

1. Don’t be greedy. Seriously. Sky is not a game where you need to have everything. The cape being in IAP is VERY reasonable, I don’t see anything wrong with this.

2. The grind for the pants ugh 😩 but it’s still good!! It’s completely f2p now and it makes me very happy as a trying-to-be low spender!! Plus it gives me more reason to come online and play more

3. The capes www I agree they still look a little bit incomplete, so I’m waiting to see if they will change them or not!! If not, I’m still happy with the black colours. I want more black capes HAHAH

4. yes I want the Fox to be interact-able but I’m gonna get it regardless because it’s cute 😌

Edit: I lost my train of thought while typing this thats why it sounds off oops

[stray elk]

I disappointed I thought I was gonna play a real sky song :( and also the ukulele reminds me of my mentor... :((

Legit the only thing that made me cry was the ukulele, not the cutscenes

[grizzled kayak]

Just wanted to say I’m really happy about the sword outfit being moved to igc thank you! It was the only suit I planned on getting so hopefully things stay like this for live

[wide lynx]

Aww. I have a lot of messages I agree upon so rather than spamming I wanted to react. But nvm, Imma just watch ig.

[vestal willow]

Don’t you just love how everyone is praising TGC after calling them greedy capitalists and people who were going to buy the IAP rude and rich? Sheesh 😂😂

[cold marsh]

👁️ 👁️

[crude crystal]

i dont like they add shoes to green pants

[stray elk]

not everyone, and this is usual beta chat

[swift edge]

I am glad I never went far enough to call TGC greedy and just expressed how awfully expensive the IAP is for my currency. That's why being respectful is so important even when u are angry

[winged anvil]

The fox is just a prop like some stuff from assembly, there to sit and be pretty haha

[viral magnet]

Total IAP's left and total cost of them now?

[restive adder]

Imagine if the Fox could jump

[spring goblet]

As much as sky is making us spend money on their game, I'm not complaining since their only source of income is from IAP. They don't try to shove adds and sponsored content down our throats and i am grateful for that

[cerulean gazelle]

Wow the sword pant change is something I never expected. It's awesome tho, ny friend is fully f2p, I'm happy he will get something awesome for himself

[bright portal]

dont think sky has ever made us spend money on them, it really is just a matter of choice whether if you want to spend or not. We dont spend money to unlock realms, it has no hindrance to regular gameplay

[peak token]

I think the scarf cape and star cape(?) are IAP, cost 14.99 both

Its a nice price tho

[bitter lion]

Guys,I have another question. Now many players are afraid that gift packages will be attached in the coming seasons. Is it possible?

[gleaming quartz]

Guys do you think the capes is unfinished or it's just black??

[viral magnet]

Anyone please?

[spring goblet]

Well of course not, it's just that we miss out on a lot of unique content and cosmetics if we don't spend any money for Adventure passes for example.

[stray elk]

#known-issues oh wrong channel oops thanks Harbin!

[late mountain]

Its intentional. Please see #beta-known-issues

[carmine thorn]

I hope I understand the question correctly. The IAP packs for LPP season is only because Le Petit Prince is trademarked, so they have to pay royalties somehow and it would be clerically easier by separating TGC art assets (Seasonal Spirit trees) and POMASE IP separate.This has no bearing on future seasons with 100% TGC art.

[opaque yew]

They come back as travelling spirit though

[faint comet]

🔸️Scarf Cape - $14.99
🔸️Fox Backpack - $9.99
🔸️Red-Green Cape with stars - TBA

[sacred sigil]

I don’t usually defend TGC with the IAPs. I still think that IAPs are expensive. But damn they listened and changed. Made things much more reasonable, there are still problems with the game in my opinion relating to past IAPs and future IAPs to come that will probably create the same discussion. But that was a step forward and i am glad that constructive criticism was taken.

[bright portal]

nah we dont missed out anything content wise, everyone can experience the season and pretty much every other content as a free player and to my experience, as someone who dont really pay for every item in the game but did make a few IAP purchases, im completely fine missing out a couple of cosmetics , ofc they look amazing and unique as it's just simple marketing strategy. but as long they dont paywall me into experiencing the game as the same as everyone else's im completely fine . Im quite neutral with the IAP debate but i'm happy they made the change to cater to more players

[bitter lion]

I mean, many players now worry that the seasonal music after the little prince season is similar

[lofty lagoon]

What does the note regarding with the musketeer pants mean? After the season would u still be able to wear it or did i misunderstood?

[gleaming quartz]

So it's just black😌

[fathom river]

black supremaccy lol

[timid bough]

huh
the music in the quests have the classic sky motif in it too

[stray elk]

iap ts? Hadn't seen healing flower come back, sword pants ts?

[gray tangle]

black capes >>>

[spring goblet]

True but that's only about a year after they first arrived with the season, and then they're not that unique any longer. They also miss out on the ultimate rewards. Many players don't last that long, especially if they have their cosmetic creativity limited

[edgy pilot]

14.99 for scarf cape and 9.99 for the fox backpack

[lunar jacinth]

Do you guys think the hairstyle of the hat needs a change , all the seasonal hats have same hairstyle, I think since lightseekers

[opaque yew]

You misunderstood our conversation

@spring goblet Don’t forget other games survived on ads , Sky don’t have any ads. How do you think they survive?

[dapper nova]

It means it won't be available to get after season ends, like the ultimate gifts for all the seasons

[primal pagoda]

I really think the hat needs to be under “headgear” list instead of a hairstyle

[static saffron]

With the ts, days of rainbow, and now the sword pants, that's probably over 400 candles. Good luck everyone, remember to not burn yourselves out when candle running!

[faint comet]

If you're referring to the one written on #beta-announcements, meaning it is only available for purchase on Rose Guide Tree within the season, unlike Assembly's Props where they will stay forever

[tropic radish]

/The sword pants feels like a """free""" seasonal ultimate. I remember putting a free ultimate on wishlist and ideas
I guess it partly came true

[lofty lagoon]

Thanks for clarifying I was confused for a moment there😭

[sly arch]

Kinda curious about 25 days before the next quest. Yes, It’s Beta so MOTD is always wrong and Same as the Time Counter. This is the same bug that the Time Counter is?
(And yeah, people miss reaction but please behave so we can get reactions back… why are we even like this tho…)

[vagrant heart]

@low kindle Please do not bypass the filter by abbreviating profanity. Thank you!

[peak socket]

Idle animations end the emotes which is kind of vexing.

[lunar jacinth]

Let them know , it's probably a bug or something that really needs to be changed

[spark lance]

this is what I thought! i am glad that TGC take our feedback and made huge changes now!

[static saffron]

Yeah I hate it
So damn annoying

No I'm not sleeping cake even though I have to go somewhere at 6 am est/edt

[carmine thorn]

Yeah, submitting a bug report would be the best option... So we can afk with slouch level 4.

@stray elk :

[stray elk]

I should go, Omega you should sleep soon. Good night!

[cosmic orchid]

yep, most likely changed once the quests are ready for testing (is how I interpret it)

[spring goblet]

Yes, that's why I respect the prices of the shop, because they have no other income than the IAP

[spark lance]

The Adventure Pass Seems Worth It now

[swift edge]

[gleaming quartz]

Like really worth it rite!😌

[sly arch]

Thank you. (Still kinda miss reactions tho but it’s a sacrifice we need to make for our community)

[spark lance]

season of empty wallets- preach

[static saffron]

Okay fine I'll try to sleep. Gn y'all

[spark lance]

The green with the stars cape is gone 😔 and now everyone will get the sword pants even when season is over

[peak socket]

I'll try getting some recordings. I suppose if I get one of the unexpected lags while recording I can submit a bug report for that too.

Though it's like the game knows when I'm recording since it doesn't lag while it's active.

[chrome ivy]

Assembly have 4 ultimate gift. Why not just add the Scarf cape to the ultimate gift also? Or there a hidden cost of the agreement for the collab

[light stirrup]

Nope, only during the season

[carmine thorn]

Royalties, and those are behind an NDA, so they cannot disclose the amount they pay to Pomase or medialink on income for LPP cosmetics.

[tight bloom]

Ohh! The green prince suit has shoes now! Super cute! Hope the black suit would have boots as well.

[brave topaz]

What's the status of the scarf cape rn?

[peak plume]

15$ IAP

[scarlet wraith]

They listened I am so happy. I think they deserve 2 IAPs because the collab will definitely cost them more money. But It is much better now.
Also, pls no collab in the future.

[spark lance]

Its not in the cape closet anymore! 😭 uuf big cooldown….. pss i love the colab.

[lunar escarp]

Hey where are the black and grey pants available currently in beta ?

[light stirrup]

Ohh, i mean sword pants only during the season. Green cape is lost indeed we have to wait and see what happens. But I really wanted to buy it, even if it was IAP

[static saffron]

I say this as I haven't gotten off of my phone

[ashen tundra]

Question, after the season ends. Will the little prince IAPs still be available?

[tight bloom]

You know, I hope they would announce the 200 candles pants in the beginning of the season for live players. Just so they know what to expect because rn we cant see the price until finnishing the last quest. And last quest to season ending is not too far.

[sterile plinth]

No afaik?

[pale junco]

Whaaaa it's free now

[soft crypt]

the sword pants! don't call it completely free it costs 200 candles

[lunar escarp]

Bros the grey suit that looks like the valley elder's suit that was available as IAP in beta for the season , did it's status change to AP or nah ?

[static saffron]

It was ap before

[quartz snow]

Isn't it already in AP even before?

[jolly bear]

Bros the grey suit that looks like the valley elder's suit that was available as IAP in beta for the season , did it's status change to AP or nah ?
@lunar escarp what ? It was never an IAP, the Suit of Valley Elder is in AP

[hasty vessel]

it was never iap always been ap from the vain spirit

[zealous badger]

But it costs no money so it is free. 200 candles is roughly 13 and a half hours spread over 11 Weeks of Season.

1 hour per day = 15 Candles.
15 x 13 hours = 195 Candles.
And Five Candles is no longer than 15 minutes, but I’ll give it 30 minutes to be fair.

That’s entirely manageable in 11 weeks.

[sterile plinth]

I still wouldn't call it free, considering it takes a while to get said candles, especially you're trying to participate in the events and get TS gifts at the same time

[flat tree]

do we really need 205 candles to get to the rainbow cape and buy it?

[tiny ice]

[lunar escarp]

Eh ??? Okok i think my goldfish memory is playing tricks on me sorry for bothering and thanks

[naive solar]

moving it to qg tree seems like an apology, but the price seems like an insult and a punishment

[soft crypt]

right.. it does cost your time

[zealous badger]

180 for Rainbow Cape. 5 for the Spell and 175 for the Cape. Another 5 for the next Spell I’d bet and 20 Hearts for Tassel.

@sterile plinth Ehh, I don’t have issues getting TS’ or events and I only run for 15 per day. I buy everything from TS’ too. I haven’t missed any TS items since Boogie TS. And I haven’t missed any event items since I started in Sanctuary. I suppose I do have problems being unable to afford gifts everyday, but that is my sacrifice.

@soft crypt So does everything else in truth.

@flat tree Actually, no. The tree was chanted.

[flat tree]

i saw a video and it showed 2 x 5 candles and 2 x 10 candles spells to get to the rainbow cape, im not a beta tester doe, the spots are all filled up

[true summit]

I would say fair enough because it was changed from iap to qg tree

[sleek pelican]

Please make constructive feedback about ur opinion and submit in #beta-feedback
For me personally, I'm very satisfied about what they changed with the IAPs

[bright portal]

I think that was the older version of the rainbow spirit tree. I could be wrong tho but as of latest from beta u only need to unlock the first node to get the cape and tassle/earring

[sterile plinth]

I get that but everyone's experiences are vastly different and not everyone is able to juggle (pun intended) all of those due to various factors such as time etc.

[static saffron]

Juggle, imagine if juggler comes before or during dor

[pale junco]

Shoessss

[dense zodiac]

Next quest after 25 days That's way too far

[mossy glacier]

Sooo
Which items are left on IAP for next season? I heard that sword pants is no longer iap sooo

@soft crypt, thank you very much!

[brisk wing]

uh when will the new season come to the live version? And how long is it?

[paper blade]

Nono don't give them ideas

[cosmic orchid]

juggler come home

[tawdry pine]

It'll be a while till it does, sit back and enjoy the soon-off season!

[soft crypt]

the prince cape and the fox np

[true summit]

Dismiss, crab call, juggler? Bring it on

[zealous badger]

It’s fair, but as was asked; Why do people want these items for a game they hardly play? If you can’t put time in then why want these items so bad? They can’t make everything cheaper just because people can’t run each day. I’d like to be sympathetic, but I just can’t understand how an hour out of 23 each day would be too much for people if they really want these things.

[uneven palm]

does anybody realise the green star cape is gone?

[sleek pelican]

#beta-known-issues

[bright portal]

I agree with this. And tbh tgc has made it quite manageable even for casual players who play like 1/2 hour in the game. The grind isn't too hard either. I've played game that took me 10+ hours daily to achieve a certain goal for an event. Either u spend a little extra time to achieve what u want or cash out. That's just my opinion. Tgc has not done anything different from other games , but they are much more lenient towards their players imo.

@spark lance yes, no need AP to get it. Just 200 candles

[vital sentinel]

kind of funny that there is a theory that Sky Children are actually reincarnation of the Sky Peince (whose soul somehow got shattered and thus creating sky kids) and when we met the Little Prince its like two Princes bonding and laughing together as their friendship grow

and when we guide the Little Prince to the 6 realms, its like Sky Prince introducing (and boast, in a gentle way lol) their kingdom to another prince 😂 idk i just find its cute haha

[spark lance]

wait , the sword suit can be obtain even without AP ?

@puffers @zealous badger Thank you !! ♥️

[zealous badger]

Yes for 200 Regular Candles. You have 11 weeks during Season to save up for it. If you have trouble managing your time might I recommend getting an Uber. It can help greatly.

Np

[stuck urchin]

I come back hours later and people are still asking the same questions over and over

[vital sentinel]

me with 500 candols in live already

but then TS and DoR is coming so yeah time to drag my fams to cr again

[tawdry pine]

I got a lot of candles but WOW time to save lots more

[royal elm]

200 candles????

[true summit]

Agree you can't afford IAP? Ok. You can't join AP? Ok. You don't have much time to farm? Ok, pop new system. Tgc most likely has give you many way to afford and now it's just depend on your choice

[bright portal]

Don't forget to visit geyser

[faint comet]

Wait, previously referred to as Shrewd Merchant is now called Star Collector 😮

[zealous badger]

I agree too. The new system was implemented exactly for that purpose so people can snag 10-15 candles in 30-60 minutes. It’s meant to make it so people don’t have to grind. TS’ usually cost between 100-195. The rarest ones are 195. That leaves anywhere between 110 to 15 candles left over after buying them out, depending, and those can build up VERY fast. It’s incredibly unlikely that 5 different 195 candle costing TS’ will come before season ends. Those leftover candles can pile up very quick. Also after the 13th it’ll be 19 per day until Prince Season Starts due to dailies.

@true summit Indeed. I 💯 agree.

[royal elm]

I mean, better to cost 200 candles than $15 amiright

[vital sentinel]

especially with dollar exchange rate in some countries are legit terrible

i live on one of that country lol

[pale junco]

Nope, forget the past it was a iap but now it's free so view it as a free item unless it's changed again. It's not one or the other it's what it's rn.

[bright portal]

Either way, it opens up opportunity for all players to achieve it , whether you're f2p or can afford candle packs loving it

[minor falcon]

the sword outfit is like a different type of ult then, interesting

[zealous badger]

Ooooh, a f2p Ult item? That’s great feedback.

@flat steeple Costs 200 Regular Candles, but 11 Weeks to save for it.

[crude hawk]

I think I have something I'm going to put into feedback: A F2P ult gift for each season so people can get something nice even if they can't afford AP

[flat steeple]

HOLY - !
FOR REAL (0_0)
THE SWORD OUTFIT FOR FREE ?
🤯

[broken fractal]

So in june we have rainbow cape and july for the sword outfit. Thats 2 months of great items to look forward to!

[languid ocean]

Will the sword suit still be available after the season like assembly guide?

[faint comet]

Check #beta-announcements

And @@broken fractal, I'm very excited for it as well

[ashen tundra]

Is the sword suit only buyable when you've finished all prince quests?

[flat steeple]

for free I meant NOT IAP
So is it actually true (0_0) ?

[zealous badger]

Yes, it’s true. You can check the updates to see.

#beta-announcements message

[vital sentinel]

yes!

[gusty oxide]

I think the distribution for the LP cosmetics are fair now!

For p2p who will buy AP & IAP/s = $35

• Scarf Cape ($15)
• Fox Backpack ($10)
• Prince Outfit+Prince Hair+Rose ($10)
• Sword Outfit (200 candles)

For p2p who will only buy AP = $10

• Prince Outfit+Prince Hair+Rose ($10)
• Sword Outfit (200 candles)

For f2p = FREE

• Sword Outfit (200 candles)

LP Green Cape is still a mystery if it’s gonna be free or an IAP...

Thank you for the changes, TGC! And for listening to us always!

[sleek pelican]

Yes checkout #beta-announcements

[sterile plinth]

Can someone remind me where the Cold spirit is?

Can't remember for the life of me

[carmine thorn]

Shiver... It's the one we relive right after the clearing.

[lavish zinc]

wait, where did the things from the store go? can I buy them anymore?? I was waiting for the icons to be fixed and translated into my language, but ...

[bright portal]

#beta-known-issues

[stray imp]

Hi i come to say thank you so much TGC for listening to fellow Beta player and f2p player out there. Its was amazing when i know that tgc really move the item from IAP to IGC even if it cost a lot. Thats still great deal for us the f2p.
I read a lot of hate for the amount of candle, but if i look back, its equal for every player. If you want to get easy candle go get the candle pack, if f2p, thats mean you have to sacrifice sometimes for candle run. Almost all game with p2p and f2p have this 2 different. For p2p they sacrifice the irl money, and f2p they sacrifice their time for grind hard. Its heartbreak for some comment that want everything but without sacrifice anything (don't want spend money and time). If the excuse was ts, event etc. Thats mean the choice its on player hands. Please be nice to TGC that already sacrifice their income from IAP on this first collabe season. The collab itself not cheap. Last, let's hug (･ω･)つ⊂(･ω･)

[true summit]

And only available during season back to the ult might comeback and right now, this item available as non AP/IAP. Only as our POV it was a free ultimate BUT devs haven't confirm this yet. So at present, with what my personal think, this sword pant might be the one like the beta cape

[abstract orbit]

Wait. Tgc. Said. Sword suit. TGC COME I WILL HUG YOU

[zealous badger]

I recommend sending this in #beta-feedback The Devs would really appreciate it surely.

[silver willow]

THE SWORD OUTIFT IS IN GAME?? AHHH TGC I LOVE YOUUUUUU

[tropic radish]

Hmm, what should the green cape be to make it balanced ?
I'm thinking it would stay as IAP alongside the scarf and fox :0c

[amber delta]

Everyone says thank you to that game compagny. But the situation is serious, 175 candles for a cape and 200 for pants. It is no longer possible. Wake up ! They will continue if you continue to buy. Stop

[chrome ivy]

Although the Scarf cape still IAP but it's already enough for me because I can use assembly cape as scarf cape

[sterile plinth]

Oh, man, that's so weird, I thought it was it but it didn't highlight it for me

[sleek pelican]

Same. Only that one spirit didn't glow from afar. Maybe bug?

[carmine thorn]

Yeah, it's a bug. I still am collecting footage for bug reports on the new code for the daily relives. A few others don't light up either. (Also, seems the relive is grey instead of the normal blue, now.)

[cosmic moth]

Now i love TGC
Thank u, THANK UUUU!! I REALLY LOVE THAT OUTFIT THE SWORD SUIT, REALLY REALLY LOVE IT NOW I CAN GET IT AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[faint comet]

I think retracting their decision would cause more uproar. In any case, feel free to leave your constructive feedback here #beta-feedback and/or #live-feedback

@sterile plinth same, it was weird why it's not shimmering unlike the other 3

[sterile plinth]

Every single one except for Shiver aka Cold lit up for me, interesting...

[zealous badger]

200 Candles for Pants that you have 11 Weeks to save up for. That’s 2-3 Candles per day. That’s really cheap. This was a collaborative item they paid rights for that we aren’t being charged real money for. I think 200 candles is more than fair.

As for Rainbow Cape...yeah no idea why that price is so high. Maybe try sending #live-feedback since the event is soon to come to live. It’s not in Beta anymore so there isn’t much Beta Feedback will do.

[tawdry pine]

Bug report time

[restive compass]

Honestly I don’t mind expensive cosmetics in the game since there are always cheaper options anyways
Plus it really gives me motivation to grind since ik I’ll get something out of my time spent

[true summit]

It only depend on what your choose, why you want a thing so bad but you can't even put any efforts for that? Grow up

[tall nacelle]

I would like to thank all TGC employees who made me wake up happy today. Because they listen to us and care about us... Luv ya ~(˘▾˘~)

[sleek pelican]

Yeah the circle on the left side is grey. Is that bug or intentional? Cuz the glow isn't blue anymore i thought it was intentional

[sterile plinth]

Yup, once I'm done with quests in Live after running candles here

[hollow compass]

Mygawd, have you not memorised all the spirits' positions? We must revoke your Elderness!
I'm joking. I don't remember if they all shine. It seems inconsistent, or perhaps it has to do with the environment they are. But it's fun to revisit some of the other ones. 🙂

[chrome ivy]

Yeah, 200 candle for a pants is ok because it's a collab reason. But the overpriced rainbow cape is OVERPRICED. 175? Just for a cape. I think it's the deadline for TGC for adding more IAP item to AP or IGC （in game currency).

[sterile plinth]

I mean I do remember them cause I literally went for it in the beginning but the lack of highlighting and me juggling 3 things at once confused me lol

[spark lance]

but it is already fair enough for everyone to be able to get the items with IGC. This means every player is able to get this item. even those who cannot afford to buy IAP or AP. Can we just be grateful about it?

Just need to make strategy on which one u want to prioritize first. I mean if u are aiming at TS too, they can wait because it is possible they will reappear!

And of course you must do your CR. not only you, but EVERYONE must do it. that is already fair enough tho

[barren pelican]

Maybe it was hard to add the rainbow colours and that's why it's so expensive?

[zealous badger]

And that’s just the Cape. 175. The Tassel is 20 Hearts or 60 Candles. 175 + 60 = 235 + all the spells? Not even sure what they all cost now. It’s an expensive event. I’m not going to buy all the spells. I rarely use spells. Don’t get me wrong though. I do like the trails, just don’t care much myself for temp items.

[primal pagoda]

look at the other way. positive ones. what if tgc decide the items cost hearts instead? 67 hearts for a pants. tgc sure can do that but they don’t.

[hollow compass]

Yes, they should perhaps be made more apparent, if they are for a daily quest. Which one has been your favourite to relive so far, out of the "new" ones? I always had fond memories of and

[chrome ivy]

The only hope to save candle is hope the TS is on not your wishlist. If the next TS is other than CRAB CALL I will get the Wing Buff,Emote and hearts
@zealous badger Because the Rainbow event I decided to skip it entirely. It's bloody expensive. Why

[tidal olive]

Hm well the rainbow cape is first IGC item with a customized star meter

And the color is lovely...maybe thats why it's expensive?

[cosmic moth]

Can you imagine tgc deciding to bring the spirit of the crab call and the juggler?
I'm dying

[pliant furnace]

That doesn't justify anything
The star meter is literally a paranthesis
We're getting a ts before and at the end of the event

[barren pelican]

Wait, you can buy sword outfit with candles now??

[tawdry pine]

Yup, 200 candles

[rare anvil]

That wouldn't happen....

right?

right...? :pFIRE:

[silver willow]

YESSSS AHH IM SO EXCITED

[zealous badger]

I’m privileged in that sense considering I knew the price average ahead of time due to being a Beta Tester so now I have 200+ candles already saved up for the Cape and Tassel. On top of the 200 more I’ll have for TS. I’ll be able to buy the items as soon as Rainbow Quest Giver Arrives, but I feel so bad for moths and other people who won’t get to get it.

@barren pelican

#beta-announcements

[true summit]

I had feedback about this at the begining event. If they turn those colors spell into the cape effect whenever we fly instead of spell, i'm surely would do hardcore everyday to get

[naive solar]

my man just pinged several people at once

[primal pagoda]

LOL —no, it is their name

[hollow compass]

I think we just have to let go of the idea that everything is attainable to everyone, which is different from the original concept or impression of Sky. But there we have it.

[carmine thorn]

I mean, before you say something isn't justified, it might be best to try it out in blender/3DMax/Cinema4D yourself and let us know how it goes recreating something as "simple" as parentheses on a cape without clipping.

[stone trail]

Will the Little Prince Spirit Become a Traveling Spirit? Will they come back after the end of the season?

[faint comet]

Im still curious about the the "blacked out" umbrella or parasol when reliving spirit?

Tho, I remember watching an old Beta Lightseekers video that parasol was once sold on Forest: Fish Call, could it be the reason for that?

[lunar jacinth]

No little prince cosmetics are one time

[cosmic moth]

[deft moat]

[tropic radish]

It's the method that was used to make (colour) that cape and the rainbow symbol that are making it expensive .
They did something new to implement the colours and probably more harder than other capes.
Why the rainbow symbol ?, Assuming most IaP cape have special ost of the time... Yeah
But I will still think it really shouldn't cost that much. 160 or so is already enough imo--

[neat stream]

The spirits of the Season of the Little Prince should return as traveling spirits after the next season is over like every other season

But the sword pants are only there for the season

[cursive tinsel]

So what they are suggesting that no IAP, UG or f2p UG of the sword pants will return.

Have they confirmed anywhere that the LP quests won't be replayable? So will the rose remain after season and moths after the season have access to anything like they do for enchantment onwards?

[barren pelican]

Omg I love the sword pants. I'm so happy they are "free" now Thanks for the answers

[amber delta]

The trousers and capes of the ts cost 75-80 maximum. And here I see a cape at 175 and trousers at 200. It's illogical. I don't agree with this idea of tgc. They make blabber about equality but frankly the people who are going to be able to afford the next clothes are either going to be unemployed or children who spend their days.

[tranquil raft]

Its something to purchase from the seasons rose questgiver :)

[tawdry pine]

The rose! It'll be unlocked with the second to last quest

[hollow compass]

There was a blacked out umbrella? I must have not look at that. Originally, that spirit was a guided circle quest that you walked around the river to the left. One spirit followed the other, trying to shield them from the rain with their umbrella. I think maybe a little love story?

[primal pagoda]

we have Enchantment, Sanctuary, and Prophecy also in the ts poll. (that’s 16 spirits alone)

[lunar jacinth]

To know more watch the upcoming episodes of beta updates

[zinc gale]

Omg why is the sword suit 200 candles now 😭😭😭 please put it back to IAP

[stone trail]

Six spirits of the Little Prince season, They become traveling spirits. However, Pants with a sword cannot be obtained after the end of the season, right?🥺

[faint comet]

I could be wrong tho, but I noticed a "blacked out" in an umbrella-shaped figure, and while reliving the spirit, I have noticed the spirit is with Fish Call spirit. Maybe on a date

[neat stream]

Yeah, they can’t ;-;

[deft moat]

200 candles are too far fetched.

[cursive tinsel]

Well yea
Just wondered if they had mentioned anything in chat about that so far?

And yea I hope the spirits stay since they are Sky spirits after all. Would be good to get that confirmed though?@stone trail

[amber delta]

67 hearts ? Haha that's the best one. Harassing your friends 67 times and spending 201 candles. No, thanks.

[tranquil raft]

4/6 enchantment ones came though, and one came from sanc so that kinda deducts it down a bit

Also, are the little prince spirits coming back as ts or not? Some people say they will, some say they wont, so is there anywhere where the devs say so?

[rare anvil]

Ohoh very true, high chance of something I have.. Hopefully

[sage linden]

Okay now the capes look waaaay better, NOICEEE

[cosmic moth]

what do you think happens to the scarf?

[main vapor]

Is the scarf gonna stay iap?

[zealous badger]

I’m not quite sure you understand the trouser situation. TGC paid possibly a large amount of money for rights to makes these items related to The Little Prince as they do not own them. That has led to these IAPs existing during the season. To pay the royalty cost or maybe to refill the gorge that buying the rights cost them.

One of these items was the Sword Suit. Instead of selling it as IAP to help fill their pockets back up, they graciously put it up for F2P players to get without costing the players any money. In other words, TGC loses money by giving us that outfit.

As for the Rainbow Cape, again, it’s pointless to argue that here. It’s headed to live send the feedback to #live-feedback

[sleek pelican]

Seems like yes. But all IAPs are missing right now #beta-known-issues

[zinc gale]

I still believe the Sword pants should be kept at $15.
200 candles are wayyyyy too much 😭

Y'all don't get it, TGC needs to pay for copyright and having both pants and cape in candle currencies is basically not profitable for them and in return can't be done

[primal pagoda]

here. for @tranquil raft and everyone who are curious

[arctic lake]

I would have found it much more logical to have the scarf as candle item. It would have completed the little prince Outfit vs Just some other pants

[neat stream]

Me who already has 80+ hearts in live

[tawdry pine]

I rather that than spend 15$- dollar to pesos conversion is harsh but others have it worse 🥲

[deft moat]

$15 VS 200 Candles
The consequences are obvious.

[runic path]

Great let's get a prophecy ts that need 250 candle when DoR arrived

[tranquil raft]

Tytyty

[hollow compass]

I'm honestly so confused about where all the items are now and what costs money or not. Perhaps because this whole season doesn't really mean anything to me, so I am not emotionally invested in any of the items' placements. I just hope those who are, feel satisfied with how everything has been moved around now.

[zealous badger]

Rally from Sanctuary was cheap. Season Doesn’t = Price. Prices go up based on how many items a spirit has.

[faint rose]

Does this happen to apply to traveling spirits? (as in will spirits from this season Not be able to return at all for those copyright reasons?)

[stone trail]

Get it for a fee, exchange it with a candle, Which way is easier to get pants with a sword?

[sleek pelican]

For me personally, candle is easier

[spark lance]

Ngl, I don't wanna spend over 715 pesos for expensive IAPs. I'm about to spend more than I can use if that happens

candle makes more sense... > kale... I think tgc is still checking out whether this season can the spirits can return as ts anot

[crude hawk]

I'd much rather not have to spend anymore money than I already don't have. Having the sword pants at 200 candles because with 11 weeks, it's very easy to collect that amount. Let's once again not forget that there will be cakes in the Days of Rainbow will add more candles to collect. I think they're far more attainable now as they are than for $15 for someone who has unfortunately been laid off of her job.

[minor falcon]

with a high candle cost you're paying with your time and effort, we'll have over 2 months to save up if you need to

[cosmic orchid]

the spirits doesn't have the exact clothing and cosmetics as what the book has, they're Sky-fied which means only those from the little prince and the ults shouldn't come back

[timid bough]

spirits can return as they don't have any copyrighted looks

[carmine thorn]

The items on the spirits aren't trademarked items. They were created by TGC. The only items that fall under the trademarks were the IAP items. One turned into an Ult and the other on the quest giver tree. They won't return due to trademarks.

[chrome ivy]

Is the cosmetic for new season are from LLP?

[zinc gale]

I prefer $15. Some people don't have time to candle run everyday to get 200 candles, and $15 in the candle shop is like 30 candles. On god I'm praying they put it back

[solid dune]

Me sitting with 500 candles in Live

[lofty totem]

200 candles for pants?

[deft moat]

I agree with this.

[vital sentinel]

can we get days of autumn

nothing fancy, i just wnat the tree back at home lol

[hollow compass]

Top tip: since we're all in beta, we have some prior knowledge about upcoming prices, which means we can start saving up now already. 😉

[runic path]

But evey season has identical amount of outfit while other season have 6 spirits, prophecy only have 4 which means
Brace for candle run, be back in 3 hour

[amber delta]

I understand very well it is a loss for them about the trousers. But then why do they pay so much for the trousers. Whether it is expensive or not, it does not bring them any profit.

[primal pagoda]

oh yes my 900 candles and 1300 hearts are waiting to be spent as well (rounded up)

[pale junco]

Only the iaps were.
Sword pants
Green cape
Lp pants
Scarf cape
Fox

[rare anvil]

That would be nice, having the tree back during different seasons, so the leaves would be different colors and stuff

[cosmic orchid]

w8 what? nooo f2p players wouldn't have any chance getting it then

[crude hawk]

Ugh. It's gonna happen again and this is going to turn into another debate I don't have energy for. I'm going to take the route of least resistance and walk away from this. Y'all have a good evening and I suppose I'll come back when things ease off. I'm chilling on 200+ currently and still do hour runs every day. Like Ktjn said, if you just do up to 3 candles a day, you can collect the 200 candles easily.

[mighty sedge]

An 11 week season provides 77 days at 19 candles a day is more than 1,400 candles. There is absolutely no reason to be frustrated or complain after now two IAPs were removed and made available in addition to the scarf's price reduction. There is no end to how needy f2p can be.

[chrome ivy]

So the traveling spirit can came back since it's not from LLP

[zealous badger]

That sounds like a personal problem. 200 is 14 days of 1 hour a day runs. That’s a piece of cake.

A lot of people keep forgetting the conversion rates for other players.

@amber delta It was meant for profit and people begged them to not charge money for them. TGC listened and managed to get it for us on their buck. In other words, they chose to pay for it and thanks to their kindness they chose to give it to us. It just costs 200 candles. Which is easy to get with some work and time. 11 weeks is plenty of time.

[lunar jacinth]

[solid dune]

This is fine by me, as long as the Prince Guide doesn’t leave once the season ends

[worthy tusk]

I stands with the original IAP from the beginning
Btw that's what IAP stands for. Something can be owned by everyone and some don't. If you are a F2P, I'm sorry then.

[primal pagoda]

ahh, I think I misunderstood the previous question. all ktjn has said is that about Little Prince cosmetics (scarf, fox). its not specified if the 6 collectible spirits won’t come back so I guess it will just be like other seasonal spirits. but don’t take my words.

[pale junco]

The qg vanished

@chrome ivy yes all the spirits will come back

[wild dust]

Hello. The season guide has poofed. Has anyone seen the rose?

[tranquil raft]

I think them changing the sword pants to no longer be a iap was a good thing for people who do not want to pay, and saving 200 candles will be daunting for me, but i think the real thing im most worried about is the traveling spirits that will come during the season. My ts wishlist still has a few left, but if i want to randomly buy an item and spend frivolously like how im used to doing, it will badly damage my saved candle amount, and if i do decide to save, i might miss out on something good. Idk if anybody feels the same way, but this is just what i think

Also replying to this message, but the guide is going to leave after it ends, so uhh sorry about that buddy

[zinc gale]

I'm here for a good time, not a long time. TGC already made it clear they're maximizing for people who has little to no time to spend at the game 😬
You need so much candles especially with the upcoming events like Ts, pride cosmetics, etc. Honestly, 200 on top of that is :tired_face:
Hoping and praying the put it back to IAP this is just :triumph:

To the one below me who says to put it on both candles and IAP, I agree.

If there's a way to get candles through effort, and to straight up buy it, I see no reason why a cosmetic can't be like that

[lofty totem]

My take on this issue would be to have pants as BOTH IAP (for 15$) and as 200 candle option

But honestly having one pant as IAP isn't really bothering, they gotta earn in this crossover.

[cosmic orchid]

the rose won't leave I think, it's a QG, but the pants wouldn't stay in that tree

[zealous badger]

Yeah, people get it. You’re rich. Then spend $50 on candles and just buy it that way. It’s fine. You’re already going to spend money anyways, right?

@zinc gale Again, you will have 11 weeks to save up. That’s more than enough time. You don’t want to put the time in that’s your problem. You cannot expect them to keep making it easier and easier for you when you don’t want to work for it.

[crisp thorn]

Please remember you’re playing an ad free game. There are developers. Managers. Servers. Marketing. (So many more people and expenses to be paid for the game) If you don’t buy the AP or the IAPs.. why complain 🤷🏻‍♀️JS

[carmine thorn]

Imagine the rioting if it turned into a heart after the season ends for the same price.

[solid dune]

Why wouldn’t the QG along with the pants stay???

[primal pagoda]

pants is part of Little Prince cosmetics

[chrome ivy]

Copyright reason

[silver willow]

Eyyo the qg is gone in my game is it because of a bug?

[tawdry pine]

Assembly QuestGiver: a solo player's best friend
#beta-screenshots-videos message

[pale junco]

Questgiver will stay but not the items in her tree

[topaz veldt]

REJOICE, THE SWORD PANTS IS NOW FREEEE

[zinc gale]

Reread what I typed, thank you. 🥱
Omg isn't it hilarious people keep themselves so close minded 😆😆😆
This is great, y'all so entertaining.

[orchid flare]

Please read #beta-announcements if you haven't

[unreal needle]

I’m agree with TGC the price is perfect if u wanna good pants then make hard work for having. The same feeling that with Days of Rainbow is a good idea I’m playing in live how I never did it because I really want Rainbow cape is not impossible all can’t be easy. Is more hard pay more real money. They are listen us and we are not appreciating this

[zealous badger]

My point still stands and I’m no longer replying to you. Have a great day.

[spark lance]

Yall need to know that not everyone have money to buy it so think about the F2Ps . Geez

[hollow compass]

oh, wow...the old "hug a friend" quest is back...not sure how I feel about that

[pale junco]

The thing is that the candle system was implemented so that people don't have to grind. But looking at the prices of rainbow cape and pants it doesn't seem like they considered it. If we can get it by grinding then it doesn't mean we all want to or have time to grind for so long.

@toxic frigate questgiver

[toxic frigate]

I have a question, people said that we can still get assembly props even when the season ends, but where do we get em after the season ends?

Edit: thanks for the answer:stickerLove:

[silver willow]

Oh hey nvm the rose is back once I restarted

[solid dune]

Assembly tree house

[brave topaz]

QG in the tree house

[cosmic moth]

With the guide spirit :D
If you finished all missions you can buy it
(Sorry my bad inglish i hope you can understand me úwù)

[carmine thorn]

Rainbow cape holds water on the argument. Not so much for the pants. People wanted those to be a free item, so TGC complied... By putting a candle value on them that fit the IAP price.

[zealous badger]

Hey Free to Play Peeps I see you. I’m so happy you all have something nice to work towards this season.

@pale junco I run 1 hour per day for 15 candles a day. I don’t consider that grinding. It’s quick and gets me enough candles for everything. Including buying out TS’ and Event items. I haven’t missed a thing.

[lofty totem]

If I am not severally mistaken it is possible to finish those quests even after season ends, right?

[mighty sedge]

If everything was free Sky wouldn't exist. Think about the fact that the consumers who pay, specifically larger consumers, in this game are what keep the servers awake at night. If in life you think you can have everything for nothing or everything for something, you're mistaken.

200 candle pants is extremely generous, no matter how you look at it. That's 200 out of the 1400+ candle limit amount of time you have to do so. That's enough for several TS, pants, and then some. The only excuse one has to make now is, "I don't have the time." If you don't have the time in 11 weeks for 200 candles, then you don't have time for TS or anything else that is available in Sky. So you shouldn't even be thinking about the pants.

[nova heron]

Hello, i want everything but i don't want to put in some minimal effort. I also don't have money but I still want everything.

[royal vapor]

I wanna buy the scarf for my friend please

[naive osprey]

So how do you get the green prince cape that says you purchase in the premium candle shop? I went to ||office|| and I didn’t see anything....

[torpid shale]

ikr,,,people are still complaining after we took down two iaps,,,I get it that some of ya’ll doesn’t have the time but if you log into the game and cr daylight prairie that only takes 20 mins,you can literally get 9-10 candles a day.200 is a lot maybe for some of ya’ll but if you really ain’t the type that wants to cr you can go to the official discord server,there’s a channel that you can ask for FREE UBER.And if you just don’t like cr you shouldn’t even mention ts or something like that bc I know a lot of players who cr everyday just because they are f2p,you can maybe just buy candles from the store if you want,by doing that you didn’t only just purchased,it’s counted as supporting tgc.
btw tgc we love you pls ignore the hate comments

[tight bloom]

I'd say the price for sword pants (200 candles) is very very fair. Considering it was IAP in the first place. Personally it takes me 30 minutes to get 10 candles per day. So yeah, you can get that pants in 20 days, even less when you do full CR every day. Not bad.

[brave topaz]

I don't mind the 200 candle cost.

But hey a double candle bundle event once during the season would be nice

[cosmic moth]

That's correct! :3

[cosmic orchid]

do note the hearts won't be free anymore

[zealous badger]

Agreed 💯 ⬆️ Exactly.

[spark lance]

Exactly !

[lofty totem]

I totally don't mean to be rude but if you farm 10 candles a day can you uber me too ?

And no, I wont talk during your speedrun

[royal vapor]

I'm okay with iaps, I wanna buy some of them as gift for my friends just we unlock everything in the friend ship tree and meet over half a year! I need this feature despite its harsh conditions!
Like buy something as birthday gift for mu friends! What can enhance friendship better than this

[solid dune]

So the remaining IAPS are
Fox: $10
Star cape: $???
Prince cape: $15

[spark lance]

ey, i dont think u dont have any time for that tho, the fact u still play the game shows me u have time for playing

[carmine thorn]

It's not too hard to get 10 candles in 30mins. You can carry rocket vault and get all cakes in just under 10mins, then do the daily cake realm in 20ish minutes, depending on the realm

[cosmic orchid]

there's a conflict between "I wanna have a good time, not a long time" and "If you want it, you gotta work for it" in the chat

[deft moat]

I admit the royalty is expensive. But I think Sky noobie should also consider it.

[pale junco]

There will be 4-5 ts during the season so unless people start saving early on (which they will only do if they'll know the price beforehand) they will not be able to save enough. It could be adjusted to around 100-150 so people can save up in remaining days after the last quest. Which will be around 2 weeks so it'll be possible.

[brave topaz]

I'm more worried about DoR event because of how close it is with the next TS rotation

@vernal junco i think sky's anniversary is in July

[vernal junco]

Does anyone know when the anniversary hat will be released to live

[tidal olive]

Hug break guys!

[primal pagoda]

once it is announced in news

[wicked harness]

🍞

[spark lance]

[craggy cape]

i thought scarf cape was ulti :’) so now you are telling me capeless cape will not take place in live ever :’) i was trying to save 999 hearts in the hopes of having it :’) and i can’t get it because i am broke :’)

[cosmic moth]

How many days we need to get 200 candles? I'm so confused

[carmine thorn]

When the Anniversary event hits live would be my guess.

[cosmic orchid]

during Sky anniversary, which is July
after it's announced

[livid ridge]

do you guys think 10 candle run per day is enough to get the pant

[cursive tinsel]

Over 11 weeks yes. Ktjn already said it works out at 2-3 candles a day during the season

[pale junco]

I'll have to skip the ts before it unless it's a repeat

@cursive tinsel wait- so tgc didn't consider the ts during the season

[brave topaz]

Just buy candles?

@pale junco let's hope it's a repeat spirit

[spice zodiac]

the part of my brain that says maybe players aren't meant to get every item ever vs my completionist collector brain, fight

[bright portal]

my suggestion if you want to reduce the farming and can afford to pay IAP, just afk in geyser or just do one realm a day. Whatever remaining candles left u need for the pants buy the candle packs

[sterile plinth]

I'm back, managed to finish my dailies in Beta and here and record the spirit highlight bug before reset with like 1 minute left

[solid dune]

TGC like: they don’t want it to be an IAP. So we won’t make it one, while at the same time—making it one

[elder musk]

It might be a good idea for tgc to drop weekly messages to player inboxes with the summary of ongoing events, incl. in-game currency cost of items and event duration, ranked from most recent to future events, so people can plan in advance? Imagine if you only find out about the 200 candle cost once you finished the last quest, which I foresee to be extremely emotional, and you are shocked with that pricetag? (feedback time)

[tawdry pine]

Me who candle runs everyday: it's free

[silent lily]

Welp, this is an example of "no matter what you do, you can't please everyone"

[tawdry tree]

They lessened the IAPs. Given there's still IAPs during a Season but I believe with this move it's more justified for Sky, as a business of TGC and for us, players.

[carmine thorn]

Take the high five and my 3.9min cooldown.

[cosmic orchid]

did they say capeless is gonna be released in live? there wasn't an announcement for that yet iirc
and the cape is not ready for live

#beta-discussion message

[primal pagoda]

what if we get both iap pants and 200 candles pants 👁 👃🏼 👁

[pale junco]

How does the pants being iap before justify its price now
It WAS a iap and now it's free so view it like a free item

[shadow stratus]

Ngl i wish we had the scarf instead of the pants, seeing an almost capeless item being sold by irl money makes me sad

[craggy cape]

i mean, even if there was a possibility, now there is none since scarf cape is kind of a capeless cape. imho everyone who wanted to be capeless also wanted scarf cape to be ulti.

[dapper nova]

That's a really good idea! Maybe wish list / feedback channel? (minus the 200 part if you post in live channels )

[edgy nexus]

Just realized I can hug the assembly questgiver for completing the hug quest today… well glad there’s a way around especially friends’ not online

[solid dune]

You and me, we came prepared for this day

[tawdry pine]

I can afford spending time on candle running.
I cannot afford 15$ cause price conversions makes it 300 pesos without mentioning tax. (and others conversions are harsher than this-)

[tawdry tree]

Not everyone can afford IAPs on top of AP. Be empathic to those who are less fortunate than yourself.

[slim kayak]

Hug a friend? Wow I haven't seen this quest in ages

[cosmic orchid]

invisible cape is still a possibility, it'll come to live once the devs deemed it ready

[tidal olive]

Some ppl don't want to cr, don't want to pay irl money for cosmetics

And want the cosmetics for free

What do you want next now? :stickerShock:

[livid ridge]

i'm glad the TGC let us have all of the pants in this season. Respect Hope people stop complaining about not getting the scarf for free. This is more than enough now

[little notch]

I feel like everyone just wants things for free

[tight bloom]

I have put in suggestion to put the the price tag even before finishing the last quest. That way players can manage their candles better.

[spark lance]

CR is FREE

[timid arrow]

Oh this is a good idea

[shadow stratus]

Not everything, i just wanted the scarf instead of the pants, would make more sense for the prince look too

[tawdry tree]

I completely agree, this is a proper compromise from TGC.

[cosmic orchid]

looks at 15$, thats 749 ₱ in Gcash

[pale junco]

Just to be clear i'm not saying people shouldn't cr and get it for free. Just that it should be adjusted to a price which doesn't put pressure of grinding for candles on players. Like if i want to skip a day or two it shouldn't matter or maybe if i want to collect 5 candles today instead of 10 or 15. Also the people won't know price until the last quest which will leave them with two or three weeks to collect candles

[white horizon]

It makes more sense to have the green pants as part of the ap tho. You would look more like the little prince even without the scarf.

[tidal olive]

Well tgc gotta have to make money some how,

Then they have make the AP more expensive

Which is not gonna happen :pButterfly:

[crude crystal]

scarf is better in iap as tgc does not encourage players to be capeless at the start

[craggy cape]

i agree, the scarf + one of the pants would be better than 2 pants. also we have multiple pants in game i don’t really care about pants. if they were to give us scarf and no pants it would be okay. but there is no way now since they made several changes. let’s just hope capeless cape will make it to live 🍀

[drowsy wave]

The capeless was never supposed to be easily available, that's why it was 999❤️. They had the idea of monetising it all together that's why it was never released to live. And tbh I think it's alright for it to be IAP. If it's given away for any less than the worth of 999❤️ then it won't look good. I think IAP is the worth of 999❤️. I don't remember the price of it but if it was too expensive then may be they could make it reasonable. Other than that I think the f2p players are pretty set up for this season now.

[jovial frigate]

Hello everyone I normally keep quiet here, but I would like to share my thoughts too, as a semi-f2p ^^

At first, I was heartbroken to know that the sword pants were IAP but I understood why, TGC needs money back for what they paid for to make the season possible. Not everyone could afford to buy IAPs, since some are young or have other things to pay for. Yes, it's just pants, and yes we could skip it, and yes we aren't required to buy it. But that doesn't change the fact that I like it, I just can't buy it. Now, for 200 candles I could get it. Isn't that nice? I'm aware not everyone has time to cr, but you're free to find ubers or you don't have to buy every single thing from a ts or event. I know it hurts for cosmetic collectors, I'm one too, but I'm glad I have a chance to get it than have no chance at all

As a solution, maybe TGC could make the pants available as an IAP as well and/or let the players know the price of the pants early on.

Edit: I've already sent my feedback about this btw!

[livid ridge]

we can still be little prince without scarf at orbit though. Definitely worth it
hope they add more things for the fox one

[lost pivot]

ANNOUNCEMENT: "HUG A FRIEND" WORKS WITH ASSEMBLY QG

[vocal wren]

Yeah I think it’d be nice if the pants could be made available as an IAP as well. Especially for ppl like me who prefer paying since I don’t think I’ll have the time to collect 200 candles.

[foggy atlas]

I think this may also be part of the reason as to why the scarf might remain as IAP
More people would buy it than a pair of pants (considering how unique it is & how many pants the game already has)

[shadow stratus]

200 candles is not much for me, but ngl i wish they made the pants both IAP and for candles to ppl get it how they preffer

[tawdry tree]

One small thing, with the flapping sound effect on the scarf, what do you guys think of that? I think it ruins the fantasy of it being semi-capeless? Imma put it on feedback to remove the sound effect but I wanna know what you guys think of that first

[pale junco]

That's not a good idea, looks at Christmas hat

[normal garden]

Absolutely agree. It does seem like TGC is trying to make desirable items accessible to as many players as possible, which is very respectable IMO. I love that technically ANY player can get the sword pants, but now it is within each player’s control and not any external factor like money.

[drowsy wave]

I am really glad that now I have a chance to get the pants. It is still better than no chance.

[primal pagoda]

no, christmas hat was once IAP then the next year it costs candles. it is a different case with this one where you can choose whether to spend real money or candles to get it.
but I really think if tgc give us this option, let the players know first that it is available to purchase for candles later on as well

[round anvil]

Guys, hi! Sorry for (mybe) repeated question, but that capeless staff. Its playable just for a season or we will nevere buy it in game?

[naive osprey]

So how do you get the green prince cape that says buy in the premium candle shop? Where is the premium candle shop exactly?

[gilded parrot]

Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve

[craggy cape]

honestly it is nice that they gave us the pants IAC, i didn’t even think it was that necessary since one of the pants is already ulti 🍄

[plush osprey]

Feedback time

[tight bloom]

I think it would be nice if they have IAP option for the pants as well. Maybe with a message "get it now for XX$ or at the end of season for XX candles." Just make sure the message is clear that the items will be available as IGC later.

[foggy atlas]

I don’t think sword pants should go back to being IAP at all
They just have to announce in some form that they will be available for 200 candles so players can properly prepare and that’s it
(IAP peeps can buy candle packs and get it ahead anyway)

[pale junco]

The point is that if it's iap and also free, people won't be happy.

@naive osprey it's not available yet

@round anvil capeless staff??

[odd lintel]

Wait, is that a new quest they’re testing?

[drowsy wave]

Many players will complain again if it's sold for both candles and real money.

[shadow stratus]

Buying iap candles are the most worthless thing lol, its sooo not worth it, ppl barely do that

[iron flax]

I just opened youtube and got recommended some videos stating the changes. I'm so happy...they really outdid this iap situation. Thankyou so much.

[primal pagoda]

you have no idea how many of my friends had ultimate gifts on the first day of the season start people do buy iap candles

[plush osprey]

What will they complain if the dev put both iap and free?

[round anvil]

I ment that sword outfit. It will be playable just during the season? And that's all?

[foggy atlas]

Ahaha, I would say otherwise
I know plenty of people who buy candle packs (especially seasonals)
I used to buy em as well back a few months ago
And the amount of people who buy out seasons / TS day one because of them are a lot

[craggy cape]

guys there is no point of discussing if it would be better if iap’s were igc, there is basically no way. no one would have been able to buy since the pants already cost 200 candles, if another iap were to be igc it would also cost 200 candles. people could not afford it.

[tawdry tree]

Oooh yeah, I have a friend like that where we, my friends and I, do a countdown on when he'll have the Ultimate gifts.

Enchantment - Day 1
Sanctuary - Day 1
Prophecy - Day 4
Dreams - Day 7
Assembly - Day 14

Hahaha

[pale junco]

Nope, you can only buy it during the season it will always be available in your closet if you bought it

[normal garden]

Love this idea. A notification when you’re buying would be perfect if they decided to offer the outfit both ways.

[faint comet]

Wait, that existed before? :0
It's actually listed on my compilation list of possible "Daily Quests" I was planning to send on #wishlist-and-ideas-archived sometime

[shadow stratus]

Candles / season candles, not the same
Buying season candles are actually kinda worth it, specially because if you finish the season early you basically getting more candles for when the season ends
I mean the default candle packs :v

[left hawk]

so after the season the sword will never came back right？

[cosmic orchid]

looks at my friends who buy the whole seasons in day 1

[lost pivot]

yeah its a quest today and assembly really helps!!;

[true summit]

It better be that

[still flower]

hopes that Tgc can make it as iap, the company has to earn a living
(´；ω；）

[abstract canopy]

Where is the premium candle shop with the little prince cape? I can't find it anywhere

[gilded parrot]

Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live

[elder musk]

I think it’s great to have a highly desirable item as a reward for completing the story arc, so I would not want it as iap early on tbh.

As a player I want to know at the beginning of any event how much in-game currency I need to save upfront, as there is a huge “competition “ for my candle account from other events (Rainbow, Birthday, TS), not to forget friendship trees and normal constellations. That’s why I think an event calendar with summary of event cost and duration plus regular update messages would help a lot. (already shared in feedback)

[foggy atlas]

I don’t think one item will all of a sudden determine whether they’re making a living wage or not
They’re doing alright lol

[pale junco]

@left hawk yes, only for the season

@abstract canopy not available yet

@still flower tgc is best at deciding that, the scarf, fox and possibly green cape are still iap

[normal garden]

I think the main reason I’m for it being offered as both IAP and IGC is because it is a limited time item that will never come back. The stakes are a little high. Idk, just seems optimal when there is 0% chance of it ever coming back, and spending $50-55 when $15 was the original price tag doesn’t sit well with a lot of people who regularly buy IAPs.

[craggy cape]

a calendar in-app would be so cool tbh, i think you should send this as a recommendation 🌺

[modest rapids]

Does anyone think 200 candles for a pair of trousers is too expensive?

[left hawk]

i mean i was thinking that they would made the green cape and sword together for 15$

[abstract canopy]

But... I saw a player wearing it in Forest

[still flower]

but u couldn’t ignore that tgc has spend much money for the copyright of little prince

[spark lance]

I agree, it could be a little cheaper like 150 candles

[summer garnet]

Nope (i mean they reduced it from IAP so that free players can grind candles and get it i think it's fair)

[brave topaz]

Why not make it both iap and igc. The iap would be available when the last quest starts in-game. So it solves the problem of "early access" and everyone is happy

[shadow stratus]

I will easily afford the pants but i still think its a bit too expensive
And remember, this going to be a long season, we already have days of rainbow with an 250 candle spirit, we probably gonna have 2 events during this season with more candle items
Gonna be painful for ppl who didnt finish constations lol
(Also ts)

[foggy atlas]

@normal garden
I mean
All that rlly needs to be done is for the price to be announced on time so people can prepare
I feel like people are exaggerating this
It’s 11 weeks for 200 candles
That’s way better than the odds for rainbow cape from the upcoming event

@still flower
I’m not saying TGC hasn’t spent a lot of money on this collab ahaha
If they (on their own accord) changed two IAP items to AP & IGC, then they are clearly doing more fine than you think (and like another person already clarified to you, there will still be plenty IAP items to purchase during the season)

[craggy cape]

no, it is perfect 👌🏻

[sleek pelican]

There were free spells for it before

[left hawk]

i just joined this season but i managed to finish all ts i met so far by ignoring my the other realms

and 200candles for a pants sounds reasonable rather than iap eventhough i already thinks that iap for sword is ok

[spark lance]

!!! Woahhhh!!! They moved the cosmetics! I’m so happy!! I really didn’t think they were going to do so, but they did <3. As someone who’s bought the passes for a while, I’m a lot happier with the season rewards now

[craggy karma]

200 candles, the devs better get the final quest done quickly before the season ends, so players can have ample time to scrape every waxes in every realms lol

[true summit]

Fair enough from IAP to non IAP/AP specially with collab thing, it not even from seasonal spirit or event spirit

[normal garden]

Sure, but what if there’s a new player who doesn’t have time to farm because they join later in the season? What is the negative impact of offering it both ways?

[spark lance]

IM SO HAPPY THAT ITS 200 CANDLES INSTEAD OF DOLLARS, I WONT QUIT SKY, JUST GOTTA SKIP SOME TS'S THANKS TGC

[modest rapids]

I hope this pair of trousers can be obtained in two ways. Some people can choose to change them with candles, while others can buy them directly as before! I want to exchange with TS and I don't have much time to collect all the candles! It's much more expensive to spend fifty dollars on candles than fifteen dollars on pants！

[still flower]

nope it’s fair for me as this is a crossover event

[forest shoal]

How many additional winged light are there in the new Little Prince area?

[tawny pecan]

Currently 3? It’s been mentioned that some are missing so there might be more added later

[plush osprey]

You guys should put it in feedback on how they should do both iap and igc

@shadow stratus 200 candles is fine and fair for 15$. If you don’t cr buy it, if you want it free, work for it

[shadow stratus]

Put on feedback that 200 is too much as well, if you agree with that, ofc

[quaint jungle]

What if the Adventure Pass could make the sword pants discounted to 150 candles. So people would have more reason to buy the ap

[brave topaz]

I don't get the point of moving the rose too though

[abstract canopy]

Ooh I see

[cosmic orchid]

Starlight Desert has candles, and it's still missing some. Assembly Tree house:

[spark lance]

That's actually a great idea, you should send it to the feedback channel!

[craggy karma]

Make da pants cost 67 hearts instead of 200 candles lul

[spark lance]

[elder musk]

I still think the sword pants are nice to acquire as a reward for completing the story, whether you unlock it with candles or spend money on it. If people want to spend real money on it they still have the option to buy candle packs? (Either way people need to know the IGC cost of the event so they won’t be shocked after a suspected emotional ending.)

[modest rapids]

[spark lance]

Oooh yea! That is actually a nice idea

[craggy cape]

there will always be smth moths will not be able to get, because they are moths. i do not feel sorry for the things i couldn’t get when i was a moth because this is how this game works. it may be sad that i couldn’t but still the game was going on for nearly two years now, not everyone will get everything in time.

[shadow stratus]

Still a bit too much, i can afford anything on this game easily, im just thinking more on ppl who dont cr a lot

[turbid wraith]

I heard the sword outfit also became non iap! Is the iap content now the cape and fox?

[quaint jungle]

Hearts are way harder to grind than candles. You need to have trust, trade daily and grind.

[forest shoal]

Okay cool!
I wasn’t sure how many is normal for a new area because the treehouse and Ark have two but Sanctuary has 8
And I’m all for more winged light in places that don’t have Krill lol

Different question but how long is it usually between beta updates and full rollout? The home button patch was recently rolled out to everyone but I can’t remember how far back it was added to beta

[vocal wren]

Yeah I already did that. I have very less time for crs but I can pay for it. So honestly, i preferred it as an IAP. If it means accessibility for more players, I think it’s best it’s available as both.

[cosmic orchid]

I hope the inbox feature gets developed more befre the season starts then, that way moths will be thoroughly informed

[livid ridge]

anyone wondering where the green cape is? i can't find it in the shop or spirit tree only find its spell

[gilded parrot]

Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience

[tender oasis]

Really depends. Sometimes we got really intensive updates for a short time and then it goes to live pretty quickly too, and sometimes we test things for months eg. Daily light.

[foggy atlas]

I understand that is a concern but it happens
I wasn’t able to get everything my first season bc I came in too late (even after trying to buy everything)
I think as a moth.. many focus on understanding the game in general too rather than buying out seasons (if they even understand what is going on in time because that also happens)
I still don’t think it should be available as IAP again because there will be other IAPs as well

[gilded parrot]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[craggy karma]

200 candles are

• A full 2 weeks of CR if you do 15 per day
• A full 11 days if you do all the realms
• Or 55$ lol

[brave topaz]

It depends on how 'complete' the testing phase is in beta before it hits live. But sometimes the updates can rush out and we might not have that much time to fully find the bugs. It mainly depends on the dev team.
Seasonal updates however happens like a week or two after the ongoing season ends in live.

[tight bloom]

I still dont see any negative effect on anyone by providing the pants as both IAP and IGC. It's probably the closest thing in making everyone happy

[lament glade]

which cosmetics from the little prince season are AP-locked?

[grim mortar]

Except candles are free, if it was IAP there’s no chance you’d be able to get it for free. Having it as both IAP and IGC is actually a great idea because people who want to pay money will and TCG will get money for it and those who can’t afford it can get it through IGC

[quaint jungle]

One of the problems with the 200 candles is that theres the switch newcomers. They will not be informed with all this info and can only see iap to iap and very expensive consmetics.

The events of june and july is really unfriendly to newcomers.

[cosmic orchid]

it depends if the build is stable enough or it hits a deadline,

[true summit]

In this way Everyone have to pay time to do CR not only you, even with the new system more easier for who don't have much time and a painful for who can put more efforts on that. That's how thing work even irl. If you want something you have to do some efforts. Why you want anything same as anyone who put more efforts than you so badly but you can't even efforts. The game is for ANYONE not ONLY YOU

[elder musk]

Very true!

[modest rapids]

I agree. I hope these two ways coexist. It is too difficult for some new players to collect candles. If these two ways coexist, it will be good for everyone. Some people can get them for free, and some people can buy candles without spending so much money. It will be cheaper to buy them directly！

[tawny pecan]

Yeah like some things took a long time to reach live (daily light like someone said) but some things also get added too quickly (the broken ui recently)

[drowsy wave]

The sword pants are the only pants that are gonna be available to the free players since the other 2 are inside the AP, it would be not so empathetic if we complain and move it again to IAP through feedback. keeping as both candles and money and not as moving it to IAP only again would be better option.

[craggy cape]

i don’t understand you guys. when there is not any event you say you are bored because the game is repetitive, when they give us many events you say it is harsh and cruel for the moths. what do you want?

[forest shoal]

This sounds good to me too. If they only want it available near the end of the season, that’s when they could add the IAP for it to the store. It’s available for grinding (which is good for players who can’t or aren’t allowed to spend real money on the game) but also for $$ if people want to get it without spending hours finding candles.

[foggy atlas]

This!
June and July together will have a bunch of IAPs
It’s not about how the option of having the pants as IGC & IAP is harmful but the fact that so many IAPs in a short amount of time can be very overwhelming to newcomers + people in general

[normal garden]

I’m still not seeing the negative impact it would have, but tbh I am fine with whatever way TGC decides to offer it.

@grim mortar They can get all those items via TS. These items will never come back.

[grim mortar]

Newcomers won’t be able to get everything and that’s okay like someone said earlier the point of Sky with new moths is experiencing the game itself, they don’t have to get all of the candles. I’ve missed out on seasons in the past but I can get them now through TS. I missed out on some ult gifts as others did and that’s OKAY. There’s future seasons it’s not the end of the world. The point is to enjoy the game and it’s okay for TGC to have some special limited timed events, even so they already have the pajamas as a season pass ultimate gift and that’s pretty generous compared to the fact it used to be IAP. TGC literally LISTENED to us so PLEASE if we complain MORE they might end up not taking our critique to heart anymore, I think this is a fine set up compared to what we had. If they only had one set of pants costing 200 candles that’s one think but they had ONE SET OF PANTS ALREADY

[quaint jungle]

Imagine just starting the game not knowing what candle running is, Buying stuff from spirits and then they see the rainbow guide that costs 175 candles.

Then see a 20$ and a 10$ pack on the items.

They skipped some traveling spirits as they dont know what they are and now its july with the new season.

Now they see even more iaps and the new season.

At the end, they will see another 200 candle item but they were busy trying to grind for friendship items, ts, and spirit items because they are still new.

Im not saying that they should revert back to iap. That would be so much worse, Im saying this from the perspective of the newcomers. I get that they wont get everything but as a first look at the game, they will be left out in their first day.

[old zinc]

I think they did already pretty well making the seasons slightly longer, I'd say at least as I said other times that It'd be nice to have a slower pace in events, but that definitely isn't the same as no events at all, TGC needs to keep showing content but there should be a time to it that doesn't feel too forced to either us or themselves

Also they're clearly working on making the learning process shorter for moths with the new intro and the help/guiding system. Overall and taking into account they heard us with the IAPs for this season I think they're going in a good direction

[lament glade]

I agree with this, no offense but seeing prices that are expensive is kinda a moth experience

[left hawk]

just spread news along the community to save candles brah
i was told to save mah candles before i started playing this game like 2 months ago

[cosmic orchid]

I believe newcomers would be to busy learing how the game works, weighing it in on how much they wish to invest their time and trying to overcome eden tho I think that'll only be for a week but idk it depends on the moth

[forest shoal]

Wouldn’t the sword pants be IAP (if they’re made both IAP and IGC) in like August or something? If the season is 10 weeks long (Assembly was at least 70 days right?)
So that one wouldn’t be crowding out June and July

[shadow stratus]

The season is probably going to be 3 months long since we need 66 days to complete it

[foggy atlas]

Ahaha yeah agreed
Also I never saw people trying to change sword pants to both IGC & IAP when they first appeared as only IAP? It was only people saying how the price should be lowered / they should be AP or free
Now they have to be both? I really don’t understand
I think complaining about it more will do more harm than good
They literally changed a $15 item to free (that has never happened before to my knowledge)

[tawny pecan]

I personally missed all gratitude cosmetics when the season was live because I was just a bit confused, and I didn’t know how to collect candles for a while but now I have 1000 on live. It’s just bound to happen no matter how “moth friendly” a season or event is.

[drowsy wave]

I agree with this too. Moths aren't supposed to get everything. Missing items that are only available for limited time is just like missing ultimate gifts so it's okay. We also missed ultimates because we didn't know how it worked.

[plush osprey]

Imho, moths usually are too busy exploring and understanding the game.

But if you still think 200 candles is too much, go on feedback and gives your suggestion. Don’t just complain without giving solutions that could favour both players and TGC.

[grim mortar]

I was a newcomer who came during the seasons and I had no idea what it was nor did it really matter because I was busy with getting spirit trees and making friends. I did lose opportunity on some nice cosmetics but that was fine it wasn’t the end of the world. I was able to participate in another season and pay for a season pass after I had more of a grasp on the game
Having not all the pretty cosmetics is okay and shouldn’t be priority over enjoying the game

Also TS came back so I could get some nice cosmetics anyway

[brave topaz]

I don't think newcomers would actually bother with the iaps just yet because they're still in the experience phase. Like someone said, people miss out on limited stuff all the time when they're new and that's okay. And I completely agree with that statement. People in here have missed out on buying some exclusive items while they were moths and even though it's disappointing when you realise it, it's still okay because there's always more stuff that'll come in the future.
Conclusion: I don't think the june-july events will affect the newcomers that much. But people in general, yes maybe a little

[cosmic orchid]

maybe offer an IAP method of buying the swordpant when the last quest is out, basically maybe late august, yep

[azure spruce]

Goodness, I'm already thanking TGC for the changes. 2 pants out of IAP is generous, having 1 enough already. Hate me but I'd rather have the scarf cape stay IAP

[restive compass]

I think moths will be too busy actually exploring the world of sky to care much about cosmetics. Cause I remember when I was a moth I really didn’t find out about seasons, events, or exclusive cosmetics until like the very end.
Also for me cosmetic collecting is kind of an end game thing when you have almost nothing to do. like me rn

[forest shoal]

Sorry I’m confused
3 months = 92 days
66 days = 2 months and half a week

Edit (since slow mode means I can’t reply) so you mean 66 days’ worth of candles?

[shadow stratus]

66 days would be the time that we get all the items on the season, we need some days more than that as time, 70 wouldnt do it

@foggy atlas oh damn thats not enough...

Yes 66 days worth of candles

[foggy atlas]

The season was already confirmed to be 11 weeks (2.532 months or 77 days)

[normal garden]

I feel like the point I was trying to make is being missed. I wasn’t specifically trying to bring up new player experience, I was trying to say there’s not a lot of impact to offering it both ways imo.

I won’t crowd the chat anymore, as I’ve already sent my feedback, but I know I personally would hate missing out on items that won’t ever come back, especially ones as unique as this item, new player or not.

[tender oasis]

Season will be 11 weeks its in the previous beta update post which is 77 days

[drowsy wave]

This season is going to be 11 weeks-77 days. If you are AP you can finish it soon, if you are not AP you have around 5 days if wiggle time.

[grim mortar]

I do think TGC should let people know how much the Ult candle pants cost ahead of time, because it would suck to be in the dark about the second ult gift and have to get sprung on the fact it’s 200 candles and won’t stick around like Assembly will.

[valid terrace]

🔼 absolutely

[frigid jackal]

In my opinion, the swordspants should stay as IAP. Not about being selfish, but I wish that some can have a premium, or exclusive items that can only be obtained by IAP. I just hope that TGC still earns money, if this change we're final. I'm also thinking about the company, because they also need to earn money.

[tight bloom]

Yes. TGC should revamp the spirit trees (including TS) so we can see the price before buying the lower nodes.

[modest rapids]

However, new players are reluctant to exchange hearts with others, and they are reluctant to spend candles to make friends with others. It is too expensive. If both methods exist, it will be very friendly to new players！

[toxic frigate]

They still earn money from scarf and fox tho

[brave topaz]

People are already gonna spread the news everywhere when the update hits live. So majority of the players will already be aware of it. But yes an official statement from TGC through the in-game inbox/mail would be nice

[cosmic orchid]

I believe the scarf cape and the green star cape together with the fox is enough premium items already, just my take

[quaint jungle]

They will get tons of money from the ap, the 3 iaps and the switch bundle.

They are getting money either way.

[forest shoal]

If they choose to make items IGC I assume they’ve done their own pricing and are still making a profit from other parts of the game

[unique fox]

The 200 candles for pants will make people spend money either way.

[static sundial]

i do think its a bit unfair to have the sword pants introduced so late ... some people might not be in the loop about the prices, especially people who just happened to stumble upon the game or weren't ready or didn't think about saving until it was too late . they could've had the sword pants available from the beginning of the tree

[foggy atlas]

TGC getting money is literally not a problem and we shouldn’t be creating conspiracies that it is
From the facts that we have alone (there being plenty of IAPs plus many people buying AP every seasons, etc), they are not starving or struggling
I’m sure they are doing fine

[drowsy wave]

People have got enough premium items to buy I think. No need to take down one chance of f2p players getting pants.

[spark lance]

i’m grateful enough that TGC is listening to feedback and changing things around tbh

[tardy dune]

Wait so. What is IAP item now and what isn't?
Getting hard to keep up.

Reactions are still off. Thank you for responding :)

[frigid jackal]

All in all, I'm happy that everyone can be happy to. What matters for me is this game stays 😁😊

[old zinc]

I'd say if you don't have candles or prefer spending money you can always buy candle packs ?

[brave topaz]

Fox, scarf, green king cape(probably) are IAPs as of now

[quaint jungle]

Making the item igp would make some whales buy candle packs thats more than 15$ and can ftp players get it for for free.

Personally for me, i rather have it not iap because i dont want to spend 15$ more

[unique fox]

Either way you will have to buy something to most likely get it. So in the end you are still spending money.

[simple cedar]

It was just pointed out to me through another text here that the sword outfit is the ONLY Little Prince related cosmetic for f2p??? So yeahh please keep it that way why you want to revert it back to IAP it’s called the Little Prince season for a reason 😐. And for those dying for “premium” treatment y’all have two capes and a backpack sooo what y’all want more 😐 plus the Adventure Pass items are already exclusive?? Like not everyone can or is allowed an AP soo 😐

[tight bloom]

200 candles is not 15$ though. They would have to spend more money buying candle packs than the original price. That's why ppl want IGC + IAP option.

[vocal wren]

Yeah but it’s way more now😅 tbh i prefer the buying option and $15 was way lesser than what’ll I’d have to shell out now.

[safe fiber]

Agree with you. somehow i would feel that it would be good for everyone who have financial problem or a student have no money to buy the iap, but because this is one of the copyright is not easy to obtain but this idea usually will not decided by the tgc only, but the one who owns little prince.

[foggy atlas]

Green pants - AP
Sword suit - Free for 200 candles
Fox backpack, scarf, and green cape are still IAP most probably

[modest rapids]

It costs fifty dollars, but it only costs fifteen dollars if you buy it directly.

[valid terrace]

should I drop in an anecdote about when I was new VS now a year later, regarding a certain item?

[restive compass]

Tbh with how long the season is, 200 candles is merely a couple days of full candle runs and those runs usually only last an hour or so. And if you don’t feel like doing runs then ubers are available

[orchid terrace]

Personally I think having the sword suit and green jacket cape as IAP and everything else as ult gifts would be the most logical, after all isnt it the 2 cosmetics I mentioned an alternate outfit set for the Prince? And the fact that the availability for the sword suit is so limited gives be severe anxiety since I don't candle run a lot
Like, what if I spend all my candles on travelling spirits and don't have time to get enough and the season ends? Same goes with if I don't have enough money to buy candles, it just, too risky..

[nocturne slate]

At this point it just feels like TGC is directly contradicting words with actions. They say they don't want to encourage clique-thinking where "one group is better than the other", as if these decisions aren't going to severely contribute to that problem? If you're going to revert an IAP to a F2P item, you should at least TRY to make that attainable for the people who CANT spend an hour or two a day running or getting ubers

[old zinc]

Not sure I'm following, I was referring to the sword suit that is free for 200 so actually there is a way in which you wouldn't need to spend money?
Edit: got it, you were referring to candle packs to afford the pants ^^

Also @ khione I see! I'm not used to buying candle packs so I didn't how how cheap/expensive they usually are, so I understand why people would want that option now :stickerLove:

[drowsy wave]

That's wha I have been trying to say. Let all people get some of the season atleast. And not everyone is gonna need to spend money to buy the sword pants. Many people save candles like 800 of them. They are mostly the f2p players who save up candles. And so it being sold for 200 candles is not going to maje everyone spend money. Please be considerate of everyone. Instead we can try to make the candle amount a little less. But seriously that is the only outfit the free players are going to get.

[spark lance]

i was thinking the same thing honestly. i was expecting them to make the scarf the 4th ult and then making the green cape the 3rd IAP alongside the sword suit and the fox backpack

[unique fox]

I’m aware of that. I don’t think that the decision of making it an in game currency item was really a solution.

[tight bloom]

Please dont take this 1 item related to the prince from f2p players. Everything else is already exclusive. Ultimate Gifts are exclusive since it requires AP. Not to mention the rest of the IAP items.

[foggy atlas]

Yes
This mentality for exclusivity is so incredibly toxic.
There’s plenty of items for IAP anyway
It’s so saddening that people are literally asking for the sword suit to go back to IAP because of “exclusivity”
(Not talking about people who want it as both IGC & IAP but the ones who want it back as only IAP)

[quaint jungle]

Personally for me, Reverting back to iap is just insulting the free to play players. Give them at least someone to the prince that they can earn.

The suit will never ever come back and you guys want to make it iap? I get that its a bit expensive but making it paid again because you want "exclusive items" is a lame excuse

[true summit]

You know why? Because it was from real money to in game currency. It will be ridiculous if money exchange the same price as igc. You have to work to make money then so do igc that you have to give time to get igc

[vocal wren]

Tbh, even if ubers are available, some just don’t even have the time to spend thinking about the game. It gets really busy (especially for working adults) and some who can afford to, prefer IAPs.

[soft monolith]

I don’t really understand what is the problem with the cost of the pants We have more than 2 months to collect the candles. You can collect this amount in 60 days just saving 3-4 candles everyday

[unkempt mural]

Anyone wishing to have sword pants as IAP please you have a choice not to farm and just buy the candles when that season come
🤨🤨

N let others earn candles by farming peacefully fair enough

[old zinc]

Yeah I think that's why people are asking for the availability of both IGC and IAP options?

Though I'm content myself as it is because I know we can afford the pants, also I'm pretty sure a dev said we could definitely make it just by saving up a few candles a day (not full cr)

[cosmic orchid]

I don't think we should condemn those who what it as IAP, (except the exclusively stuff), their points are also valid

[unique fox]

I don’t like the exclusivity that has severely divided the community. I don’t think it should return to IAP (I don’t know how both options would work though, not disagreeing with it btw) but it is ridiculous to make it so expensive in candles, especially during a season, there will probably be events going on, traveling spirits and everything on the side. Sadly a lot of people don’t have every day to grind on a game. Newer players won’t really have a change either...

[orchid terrace]

I have 2 options I personally am okay with:

1. Sword suit stays free for 200 candles, BUT Its availability is after Quest 2 or 3, final quest is too limited and short

2. Sword suit returns as IAP, not for exclusiveness (despite logically it should be, the scarf shouldn't be since its literally part of the prince's default attire), but for the reason I mentioned in option 1. The whole reason the new candle forge system is added because people don't have the time to do full candle runs, i personally find candle running a chore and hate doing it. Im just scared I don't have the time to buy it

[foggy atlas]

Same here
I don’t really understand that people were begging for them to be AP/free and now that they are.. it’s not enough?
There really is no way to satisfy unfortunately
I’m personally very grateful for the changes
The pants returning to IAP in any way (even if there is an IGC option alongside it) just doesn’t sit right with me
They just have to announce the price on time and that’s it

[valid terrace]

I think this is a reasonable solution, but the main problem as said is for new players

moving it down the tree is definitely best solution I think

[cursive tinsel]

3. announce the cost of the pants at the start and allow people to slowly save?

I'm sure the hints will get out in live chats anyway

[tight bloom]

Or, in option 1: Just announce the price early. Simple.

[modest rapids]

Why don't some people buy it directly? As before, others exchange two hundred candles. Two hundred candles are too expensive for new players! If they make friends or exchange goods with TS, it is too difficult. They have been collecting candles and have not enough time to play with friends and feel the charm of the sky

[quaint jungle]

They could just lower the price or announce it early. Reverting back to iap would cause a major backlash to half of the players and more argurements.

Please think that majority of the players are minors in the middle of Covid that are in different countries that are more expensive.

[timid basalt]

in this case, im willing to skip a ts if it meant getting a pair of pants that'll disappear once the season ends OR just no ts for a week

[cosmic orchid]

this pants becomes the major priority now since it's limited only this season, unless ts is dismiss or juggler

[spark lance]

not every people able to afford money for buying the IAP, even the moths, not all of them are pay to play players.

[unkempt mural]

Will that make any difference like if it's down the tree the days will be same
Regardless of how many days we can get wax 🤔🤔 correct me if I'm wrong
I'm studying a bit late mit be

[foggy atlas]

Reminder that not everyone gets all TS and event items
Some would rather get the sword pants than TS / events that are most probably going to return
Everyone has different priorities too

[tight bloom]

They can just slap that 200 candles price under the pants icon since the begining of the season. So when ppl scroll up they can see the price and save up. I think people are overcomplicating stuff.

[spark lance]

with the sword pants being a limited item and not having a chance of returning, people would most likely prioritize candles for the sword pants since TS return every 2 weeks and that’s if that person even wants the sword pants

[brave topaz]

Just make it both Iap and Igc. F2p players can grind for it and the busy people can buy it. It doesn't have to be one or the other.

[drowsy wave]

Just because I don't like grinding candles doesn't mean the majority of players don't do it regularly. Just because I can afford to buy it with money doesn't mean the gen chat live people can too. We shouldn't think about I here nor only the new players but everyone. Why aren't we thinking about everyone. Few days ago everyone was protesting on how we don't want IAPs now we are doing this. I have no words.

[orchid terrace]

sobs this is suppose to be a friendly wholesome game yet its so difficult and complicated

I just think that it's just more logical to have

Sword suit and green jacket cape as IAP

Scarf cape, and basically what the Prince wears as Ult gifts

I just think it'd make more sense, the prince's default attire should be cheaply accessible and it just doesnt make sense why his own scarf is locked behind a pay wall, i find having the sword suit and green jacket cape behind a pay wall making more sense

[quaint jungle]

Also reminder that we will be getting extra 4 candles task from the 2 weeks rest.

Thats an extra 50 candles

[valid terrace]

I think this is a good idea! This’d probably do lots of good.
@quaint jungle That too!
@nocturne slate That’s my concern...

[nocturne slate]

The high prices require a lot of grinding time, especially for folks who are newer to the game & don't know their way around/don't have ppl to help them. in my opinion at least, the REQUIREMENT to grind severely takes away from the experience that Sky is supposed to be: exploring, making friends, and having fun.

[old zinc]

They probably mean it so people will see the price earlier rather than at almost the end of the season, so yeah I agree with others they should have the price announced for everyone as early as possible so we all have the same time to save up if needed

[cursive tinsel]

They are going to have to announce that the pants won't remain after the season anyway, so they always mention the price ( drop a mention not the cost sorry) then and say save 2-3 candles a day?

[sterile plinth]

I don't really understand why folks are upset about this change since the item is more inclusive now towards all players and you don't have to pay real money for it anymore, just invest your time into collecting candles, which is fantastic, exclusivity is not something Sky is known for at all cause this game is about the opposite - being inclusive and helping other people in general

[simple cedar]

I do believe it is balanced though .. regarding only Little Prince items, we have: three IAP, 3 AP, and one f2p. TGC IS getting money don’t worry about it … if anything I sympathise more with the people that think 200 candles is so much. Personally I can tolerate and is happy with it, but I can still understand their views

[elder musk]

I would not put = between 200 candles and 55$. Candle packs are there to complement the candle stock if the player does not have enough to unlock something. If I know in advance that I need to budget for an item that costs 200 candles and I know how much time I have to acquire it, I will work (play) towards acquiring those candles. Even if I am short in the end I still have the option to top up with a candle pack - cheapest is 5$ - that is way cheaper than 15$ iap.

[modest rapids]

You don't understand what I mean. If you can only exchange two hundred candles, it's very expensive. If you have a lot of candles, it doesn't matter, but not all people have a lot of candles. Why doesn't tgc provide two ways to get these pants for some people to get free? Those who don't have enough candles can buy them for only fifteen dollars instead of spending fifty dollars to buy two hundred candles? This is a good choice.

[foggy atlas]

100%
I can’t believe this is even a discussion right now
Most of our demands were basically met
And it is somehow still not enough
TGC probably moved heaven and earth behind the scenes for these changes too

[cosmic orchid]

great suggestion, #beta-feedback

[unkempt mural]

Oh I go with that too thank you clearing

[tight bloom]

Agree on this! Sometimes ppl forget f2p players exist. This sword pants is really the 1 thing related to the prince that f2p players can get.

[brave topaz]

Or just add a one-time season special 100+100 candle pack for $15 in the shop so that people who don't have time to cr can get the pants-

[quaint jungle]

We protest that we shouldnt have these many iaps. They listened and now the people that could afford iap is now protesting to make iap again.

Like, cmon. Not everyone is rich like you, the iaps are more expensive than actual clothing.

[plush osprey]

I’ve seen a lot of people that said that they would skip TS so they can get the pants. And they’re happy and grateful enough it can be obtained for free. So why can’t you also sacrifice TS for the limited pants you want? We can’t get everything and it’s not just you.

[orchid terrace]

brh why not replace the scarf cape to where the sword suit is now

[vital sentinel]

look, we still can get the pants after the season end right? since the rose will stay even after the season end, ofc we still could get the pants as long as we finish the quests

[simple cedar]

One last thing to add: so many wanted this to move from IAP to IGP, and they did that, TGC listened, I think the chat will look like a big circus if they saw people now protesting to have it as IAP again. Have some dignity man 😐

[spark lance]

oh, if that is what you mean, then i suggest you to put it on #beta-feedback as tgc won't really read our thoughts here, they focusly read feedback on that channel.

[cosmic orchid]

due to copyright reasons, nope. The pants will go away once the season ends, but that doesn't mean the qg will leave too, it's just the trademarked items being strictly limited edition. see #beta-announcements

[spark lance]

agreed. even if it’s a TS i really want items from i would prioritize the sword pants more since the TS can return at any period when they’re available

[cursive tinsel]

Because the scarf cape is more desirable and more likely to get people buying the IAP? ( just in a businy sense no hard feeling towards that one)

When we had the scarf and sword pants as iAP, I would have bought the scarf cape if I had to buy one of them

Now the AP feels more balanced I'll have to consider which is worth it

[foggy atlas]

This! The back and forth is just embarrassing
Make it make sense
We got way more than I thought we would tbh, especially for a collab of this caliber
It’s so sad that people are still complaining

[elder musk]

Not for this season. Sword pants can be unlocked only during the season, see #beta-announcements

[modest rapids]

I'm glad you understand. Thank you. I'll give it a try

[jaunty breach]

Wait, so what happened to the iap items? what were they moved to? what are their prices? /srs

[sick pendant]

We've actively been ignoring the fact that WE GOT THE FIRST EVER ULTIMATE GIFT PANTS IN SKY HISTORY

[tawdry pine]

Green pants are now an ult
Sword Pants are now buyable from the guide, costs 200 candles

Scarf cape, Fox plush, and possible the green red cape will be iap

[normal garden]

THE HYPE

[quaint jungle]

I been in the protest and wanted to lessen the iaps. If they return back to iap it would be insulting to majoirty of f2p and people who dont want to pay that much.

Thats my 2 cents

[vital sentinel]

aw snap, thats sad :< thought it will stay...

@sick pendant YESSSSSSS WE GOT TWO PANTS EVEN

[drowsy wave]

Yes I am so embarrassed right now. I feel like I won't be able to come here for days now. This is so embarrassing

[nocturne slate]

I'm personally just not looking forward to the groups of people who will treat such limited items as some kind of badge to wear & lord it over the rest. I only see it contributing to the issues of superiority in old player vs. new that is already quite present in the game

[valid terrace]

I’m very happy about this change - only worry is the fact it’s for the season and very expensive and some players can be parsimonious, some struggle with CR but might really want it (others can take them though so that problem solved?)

but some players (especially new ones) might never know about it and then learn later and be somewhat distraught
me with the Ult turban, if only I’d not been reluctant to join - but I draw my skykid, I sometimes ask friends to dress as me with it, I have a way? and others can too

[old zinc]

Please I'm so happy with that

Also man idk my friend joined right after days of bloom and she has now more than 300 candles saved, plus, it's been said even if you had 0 at the moment or the moment the season starts you have time to save up anyways! I don't see how or why this could be dividing the community and honestly if I recall my days as a moth I couldn't care less about that mentioned sense of "superiority" that's been mentioned, I think moths are too busy vibing with prairie spirits to even feel affected by some sort of division in the community (that I still don't quite see)

[fallen egret]

@drowsy wave that's actually how I felt the last three days when the argument was the other way around. People being rude and extremely negative is embarrassing. Maybe we can try and refrain from calling something we disagree with embarrassing

[spark lance]

Gosh fr like tgc made this change for US, and now people want it to change again? Like come on just let it be.

[cosmic orchid]

Ult pant yasss

[orchid terrace]

Wait technically how long into the season would it be until sword suit is available for purchase if the changes are to remain unchanged to live? How many days? 30 days? 60 days?

Just how many days into the season until final quest is available dhdjdvdjdbjd

[quaint jungle]

It would be shown in the last 15-10 days since its the last task but will be there for the whole season.

[drowsy wave]

I understand your concern, but I do not have the same concern. Thanks for your input.

[spark lance]

idk about you guys but i’m extremely happy about this change. it gives f2p players a chance to grind for candles to get the sword pants for those that couldn’t get it because it costed real money. at least TGC is listening to the feedback from the community. this is really a big step forward since it gives players who cant afford the IAPs the chance to buy it. and let’s not forget when they moved the prince’s PJs from the prince bundle to the season’s ultimates as well

[sterile plinth]

When it comes to the messaging specifically, it's not the problem with the items themselves or their prices - it's how the developers communicate to the players and there's plenty of FAQs available on all the things related to the game that you can find in-game by accessing HelpShift there

Feel free to post your suggestions and feedback in regards to improving that if you think it should be improved in some kind of way here: #beta-feedback

[rose crown]

I'm happy about this. The only thing I don't like is that it's available at the end of the season but I'm still happy nonetheless

[elder musk]

Same here. I am glad to see our feedback does matter and is taken into consideration.

[sleek pelican]

Uhhh reactions u are so far to reach

[tropic radish]

/Y'all, technically speaking...
We have our first ever *free "exclusive" item for once
And it's pants
Wowie
Feels like an ultimate, but without buying the AP

[foggy atlas]

Yes!!
I feel like people are not understanding the gravity of these changes
We were actually listened to in regards to IAPs
This is the first time ever that IAPs get changed like this
I’m so incredibly grateful and overjoyed

[tardy dune]

That makes it more valuable when put it that way

[jaunty breach]

wait, so what are the remaining iaps? and also, what happened to the lil princes cloak? where can i buy that?

[dusk widget]

Do we know that the sword pants will be available for "free" but 200 Candles or do we need the AP to be able to buy the pants for 200 Candles?

[drowsy wave]

Many of the problems might be solved if the pants are moved a little bit lower on the friendship tree of the rose. That way folks will see the price probably in the first 2 weeks and then they will have plenty of time to farm and get it. Can be helpful to many.

@dusk widget no need of AP. They are for f2p players.

[quaint jungle]

If its ap, there would be an icon showing that

[spark lance]

me too! it makes this season feel more balanced considering that players do not need to feel forced to spend money to buy the IAPs

[static sundial]

as far as i know, the pants will be available without AP like the assembly quest tree items, but unlike the assebly items, the pants wont be staying aftee the season
(correct me if im wrong!)

[elder musk]

That’s my understanding as well

[inland lava]

You can get the 200 candles in a week or two

I really like this change and i hope it stays that way

Please no more complaining about the free pants plz:SkyPray: :SkyPray:

[tight bloom]

Pretty sure they are asking question and not complaining.

[spark lance]

yess, but please do tell them not to remove the 200 candles pants for free players too, otherwise people who were complaining about IAPs before will be mad if they change it back to IAP only and not provide the pants with candles 😅🤭

[true summit]

The candle run system has been already changed to help who not have much time gain more candles (as 15 candles a day now can get faster). Then whoever have much time or not could collect atleast almost same amout of candles a day(15 candles). Good for them but also a painful for those who could do full cr because after 15 candles, they have to go much more harder by the time if they want to get more. Ok you are busy, i'm respect that system since it can help you very much. Also that, could see there is nothing can't be balance for everyone at once. So if this system doesn't help any at all, nothing more than a useless painful cr system then TGC please take back that system. The old system seem more fair since it depend on who have spend how many time could do cr a day to collect candle

[tropic radish]

It does feel neccesarry to let players know the price beforehand.
Imagine you're all hyped to get the pants
Then boom
200 candles

Maybe moving it to the bottom of the tree ( branch after quest 1 or 2 ) could let them know. And then they can save beforehand :0c

[iron flax]

The new system is amazing imo. Not everyone can sit 3-4 hours a day running through all the realms. It's emotionally and mentally exhausting.

[drowsy wave]

People who are grateful for this change and is happy with it please write it in the feedback channel. Or else they won't know. People who have any suggestions such as moving down tree etc. also please feedback.

[gilded parrot]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/593565781166391316/832872714967842826/Untitled90_20210416150354.png

[sleek pelican]

Lol skybot

[hidden quarry]

skybot read the room 😭

[quaint jungle]

The new system could just higher the candle count to not max the 20 candles. But other than that i rather have the new system than the old one.

Cr all relems can drain you everyday

[faint comet]

Perfect timing Skybot

[tight bloom]

Think they should keep the sword pants at the top of the tree for the last quest. Just make the price visible since day 1.

[tawdry pine]

It's weird having all the ults but haven't completed all the LLP spirits
The green iap pants turning into an ult saved me some hearts

[spark lance]

BAHA

[unreal bear]

guys i have a quick question about assembly if season gonna end do we still be able to get items for hearts/candles in quest giver tree in tree house ? ping me if you know the answer

[dusk widget]

Yeah, I wasn't complaining, sorry if it seemed like that, I just wanted to know if you need the AP to buy the Pants or not. Besides the fact that I will buy the AP to 100% so it doesn't matter for me, but I'm giving my friends also information about the Beta, so I wanted to make sure I give them the right information Also, 200 Candles is not really a problem for me, I'm a player who has, let's say, above the average amount of candles in the live version @inland lava
Also, thanks to the others who answered my question (I'm really happy with the changes from IAP stuff in the little prince Season )

[modest rapids]

Because that's what I think, I will. I just hope that some people can get it for free, and some people don't have to spend so much money

[cosmic orchid]

I feel like since this the pants is something more of an Ult itself, it's justified that its the last gift in the quest tree

[sleek pelican]

Assembly. Yes u can. They will stay after season ends. Checkout latest patch notes from #news

[quaint jungle]

One easy solution is to show the price of the pants at the start so people can get ready to spend.

[inland lava]

I am sorry for misunderstanding the question

From what i heard, when the season ends the pants will no longer be available and it's 100 free for all players

I really like this change. Better than 3 expensive iaps

[chrome ivy]

It is

[valid terrace]

Ok, will do!
I have ideas in mind for making this a definitely secure and fair solution (hopefully), will post them soon
it’s definitely great, just needs a bit more to be perfect

[spark lance]

now i wonder if there is someone behind skybot or its just skybot has sense of humor gaha

[dusk widget]

I guess the sky bot gets triggered by some words or phrases

[true summit]

With old system, when you go map 2-6 it can be around, even 20-21 candles without get in all trials, it less than 2 hours a day. Now 2-6 around 17-18 candles (sorry i don't know exactly since after 15 candles i just can't) but have to collect all those new candles place with more than 2-3 hours a day. The candles light become very small after 15 candles, it hard to see where to collect it and could be missed easily

[cursive tinsel]

Valid feedback but that system is now live, perhaps better to feed that back to #live-feedback instead?
Unless you mean how it works and how that affects the affordability of the sword pants, but if you know it's 200 earlier you only need to save 3 candles a day to get them during the 77 day season

[true summit]

Yes, i have feedback. and nah i'm not mean about the pants, 200 for that is fair enough if i really want to get it

[cosmic orchid]

praying we get an event where we get another chevron with the same level as the 1st one

[spark lance]

Oi!!! That will be a cool feature/events if it's ever been added
@spare mica I think it's actually even kinda cheap

[spare mica]

The sword suit changed to 200 candles, I think it is nice! (The team really care about the feedback this time :p

[spark lance]

I'm really thankful about the sword suit, i can definitely manage to save 200 candles since its easy for me. I just need to buy the scarf cape

[true summit]

Same it worth more than the x2 candles event for now

[lofty totem]

Every cape looks black to me... What scarf are you even talking about

[sleek pelican]

LP scarf..not adult spirit cape

[timid basalt]

scarf cape in iap shop

[quartz snow]

The yellow scarf cape lol

[spare mica]

As a person already planned to buy when it goes live, I feel tired to run lol (bcos there are other events and ts at the same time) But seems exchange items means more people can get it, if no time to run that much, can run and buy basic pack to fill the left👀 I am happy with this change

[cosmic orchid]

black scarf would be
I know it's not gonna look like LP but maybe in the future

[elder musk]

I think it would be better to communicate igc prices factored in with event length. E.g. sword pants is 2.5 candles a day (77 days) while rainbow cape is 12.5 a day (14 days). So rainbow cape is more expensive if you look at it that way.

[compact jetty]

guys check the #beta-screenshots-videos 🤔 😳

[spark lance]

I'm talking about the one from IAP, its the yellow scarf from the LP. I was also wondering about the other capes, why are they dark? Is it because tgc haven't decided which color to put on it yet?

[timid bough]

#beta-known-issues

[cursive tinsel]

They are meant to be dark/black as a style. To be fair they do fill a gap as there aren't many black capes in game right now.
It's just do you want to collect all of them?

[spark lance]

I have never saw something that related to le petit prince so this is just my opinion (cuz idk if "grown-ups" have that lifeless color or not)
I think they tryna make it lifeless(gray) is cuz they wanna make it abit more separate than the original,so that they may come back as the TS

[shy ore]

Howwwww's it goin?

[timid bough]

im my opinion this season's capes is the closest we get to "edgy" clothing

[kindred bluff]

imagine if the capes are black because they're keeping the real colors a secret
but thats just a theory a game theo-

[cursive tinsel]

Which is your favourite spirit cape? Do you feel you could skip any of them?

[spark lance]

The lamplighter

[sleek pelican]

LAMPLIGHTER. and the bookworm dude. I could skip drunkard sorry drunkard love the emote tho

[primal pagoda]

no— #beta-known-issues message

[viscid marten]

Just read updates, my fav pants are igc, so happy rn, 200 candles is easy ✨

[tender oasis]

Ohh hello Lost, long time

[grizzled crystal]

slouching soldier is my fave 🥰🥰 though i still feel it's a bit lacking, like even a tiny bit of gold here and there would make the capes so much better

[hollow compass]

I like the two plainer capes, can't remember the spirits right now. I don't like the ones with fur trims. I love both hats!

[kindred bluff]

oh- i was half joking but good to know
also hey Pakka!

[spark lance]

Hey what the meaning of "change little prince theme IAP" ?

[cosmic orchid]

Goth moths rise up

[harsh anvil]

EH?! The colors of the seasonal items are that already? :c

[cursive tinsel]

The little lamplighter cap is so cute along with the cape, it's just clean.

That said I could love the book/geographer one more if it had more patterns along the base of the cape or all over like postman's did?

Drunkard's cape is very hobo maybe gold flecks would help? Like a lost former glory?

[hollow compass]

It's fun to relive all the old spirits, because I am reminded of their original design, such as all the guided ones. Back then, Hand Stand was a true challenge and took such a long time, now I did it in less than a minute.

[lofty totem]

200 candles is what

[turbid pumice]

LOL

[cosmic orchid]

I love the slouching soldier cape even if it's tattered and has holes, primarily cuz mantles

@lunar jacinth yes
tho we could try and submit more feedbacks, the devs might change their minds

[lunar jacinth]

In known issues its written "not a bug" so currently the capes look exactly the way it is supposed to look ??

Thank you

[tender oasis]

Geographer and Lamplighter capes are the ones i like the most. I like the black fur cape too in certain conditions, but not when summer is approaching irl and the cape reminds me of Jon Snow soldiers cape has the weirdest color and its quite thick ?

[viscid marten]

Well I can get it in like 15 days starting from 0 by just cr prairie and forest, and 10 days if full cr, but I already have 179 candles on live so ye it's easy

Also I agree with your name, jelly pants is a must

[tawny pecan]

The chevron system is “faster” for those who don’t usually complete candle runs, but doesn’t affect those who regularly do full cr. It’s quicker to gain say 8 candles now than it used to be

@lunar jacinth the capes are “complete” yes, but that doesn’t mean they’re not subject to change based on player feedback

[blazing sequoia]

Green LP cape is gone ? Forever?

[cursive tinsel]

Winter is coming (2021)- Zombie dragon arc coming to Sky!/j

[hollow jay]

Yes. And i personally don't like all-black/grey capes. It looks so grey under strong light.

[true summit]

Before i could get 20-21 candles a day without trials and less than 2hours tho. Now have do all trials with more than 3hours a day

[leaden vessel]

You summoned me?

[sleek pelican]

Lol that soldier cape is just really pale compared to others. Not my type since i want to match with mischief hat

[elder musk]

Got shoes with the pj pants 🥰 But the green cape is no longer in the closet?

[jolly bear]

It is easy for me too anyway

[lament belfry]

honestly i'm glad they brought more black capes to the game

[worn dust]

heyy all!
just a question, did any of the devs say that the scarf cape isn’t gonna change and will stay iap? cuz i doubt they will change it anymore since we will only be left with the fox toy as an iap if they do so
just wanna know if any of the devs spoke about it by any chance?

[tawny pecan]

The black cape from also looks grey in bright lights, especially next to something like the mischief cosmetics which are a richer black colour
Personally I prefer the “grey”

[proven kindle]

Those words should be forbidden to use in sky chat; “Ungrateful”. “Selfish”. “Stop complaining” “So Rude”

[tender oasis]

That’s not quite true. It does affect full runners. More candle spots means more time and its quite demotivating after 10-15 candles. The system just helps those who have less time/intention to cr.
Anyways I’d like too if there was some heads up about the prices of the pants beforehand. Correct me but usually after the last quest there is still 2 weeks free in which time its possible to get the required amount of candles, just more intense than saving up.

[shy ore]

True cuz we'll cr weekly for 200+ candles earned

[hollow jay]

Yes, exactly. It turns grey. It's nothing like the deep matte black as the bat cape.
So plz TGC Make some of the capes blue you can't have vibrant colors because it won't fit the story.
But dark Blue fits the story, or black and blue. Adding a little variations to the design won't ruin the story at all.

[tawny pecan]

What do you mean more candle spots? To do a full cr you run the same places you always run even before the chevron system, and you get the same amount. Yes I can see it would be demotivating when the rates drop after 10 candles or so but I still don’t think it would affect full candle runners that much, they run the same amount of time regardless of the system
@proven kindle but that has nothing to do with chevrons, just more candles which was in demand anyway - candle runners would’ve had to visit those spots regardless if the chevron update went through or not

[drowsy wave]

Like that vault navy blue second tier cape that is amazing

[proven kindle]

No, after chevron update, they added soooo many new candle spots to all realms

[hollow compass]

The new candle spots are there so that we can choose which realm to run in, because we get more candles quicker for the first chevron levels. It benefits thos who do not do full cr.

[blazing sequoia]

Can anyone reply is the green cape gone forever? 🥺 That was my fav item

[hollow jay]

absolutely reasonably YES!

[willow fog]

We don’t currently know either

[tender oasis]

I meant more spots like trials, isle etc. which were added with the chevron update. Before that you could get roughly the same amount of candle without any of those, after chevron to reach this much you need those spots too which means more time. But its not really beta topic anymore, so back to the fancy pants and pjs

[naive solar]

Reason?

[proven kindle]

You can’t simply do 4 trials quickly, only trials take about 30 minute of your time, how can it be identical? @naive solar because those words cause troublr and start fight

[drowsy wave]

That's true. It's not the same. Now you have to run through more spots. But it's not a beta topic anymore.

[spark lance]

Um....no,it take less like around 20 min or so

[hallow igloo]

Because they're not very nice? And they don't really contribute to constructive criticism about beta testing, wether it be positive or negative

[primal pagoda]

my friend is usain bolt. he takes about 7 minutes for fire trial LOL

[naive solar]

This isn't a valid reason to ban those words. You're correct on them not contributing to anything though.

[runic path]

For some Uber, fire is basically walking simulator

[vivid dove]

if you wanted to buy the pants with the 150 candles + 40 candles pack then the pants are basically even more expensive than before

[proven kindle]

I have a friend who sets alarm every 2 hours for geyser event, he only farms there haha @hallow igloo Sitting? Nahh, he puts his hammock and lies there haha

[spark lance]

By now,I'm still struggling with the fire trial,but.....other trial? It's easy.

[hallow igloo]

If you don't mind me asking, does the friend run around and burn the stuff, or does he... Just sit down and have everyone else do it?

[tawny pecan]

Oh I do have a bias towards any galaxy/ star themed items deep purples and blues and blacks, with some sparkle on them

[flat steeple]

Question everyone: just WHY the daily quests must have reviving spirits from each map's constellation... I doesn't make sense 😑

[tender oasis]

All the spirits got added to the daily quest system not just the few selected ones we did for more than a year. We need to test if the spirits which weren’t part of the daily quests before, are working correctly.
We get a bunch of spirits for now at the same time but it will be back to normal probably when they are sure all spirits are working correctly.

[tawny pecan]

Because we’re testing the new quests, to see if any are bugged. For example a long time ago, the proud stance from valley was unable to be relived, so they want to avoid problems like that when it’s released to live.
Testing new quests and testing them all at once like this is just part of being a beta tester like when we had a week of “sit by the tree”
And yes it will change by the time it comes to live we beta testers just get all the weird stuff to help the devs find problems faster

[flat steeple]

Ah... so the dailies might change when it comes to live, tho 🤔

[willow fog]

Probably, I don’t think they would throw in 4 spirit quests at once in live. It’s just like that in beta so we can test them more quickly

[hollow compass]

Of course. We're always testing stuff in a condensed way in beta and things will always be different once they hit Live.

[granite spade]

You know that things are serious when a mod replies... let us listen to our mods friends 🙂 its not easy being a mod

[bold quiver]

does anyone know if the "hug a friend" quest from an older quest back when sky was still new? I wanted to know since this quest is so cute

[jaunty breach]

Does anyone know id the fox has any functionality?

[lunar jacinth]

So many people in social media complaining because it has been converted from iap to free for 200 candles. They want it to be iap

[wide reef]

being cute

[odd lintel]

The fox prop I believe is meant to be like a souvenir for the season to put in your shared space

[sage linden]

why would any sane person want to buy something with real money instead of game currency? It will never sit right with me

[broken fractal]

The quest is to hug a friend. Welp, time to hug the Assembly QG !

[tawny pecan]

So far nothing practical except like miki said, being cute if you have an idea for it feel free to leave it in #beta-feedback

[willow fog]

I guess TGC really can’t win, people will always complain no matter what they do

[late mountain]

Some people will always have different conditions to others. If someone has a lot of spending money but not much time it would be cheaper to buy it with money previously than buy the candles for it as it is now.

[leaden junco]

The the new season S pirit will come back to travel

[lunar jacinth]

I personally like that free to play players can actually enjoy the prince cosmetics.

[drowsy wave]

Has anyone been to eden after update to see if the statues bug has been fixed?

[hallow igloo]

Oh yeah, isn't today the last day of switch beta testing?

[muted crescent]

TGC is a hypocritical company that tries to shrug off criticism by wrapping its lack of ability in good words. They lack the basic ability to create content or fix bugs. Over-repeated CRs are very tiring due to a lack of content. And I was dumbfounded to see some people overprotecting the TGC as I watched this incident. If you want a happy and peaceful sky world, why do you accept criticism as an attack? Some extreme fans are cancerous in the development of the TGC.
I hope TGC will focus on basic bug fixes and operations from now on.
I'm not going to say any more. I'll be an aggressive and rude person if I talk like this anyway. LOL

[leaden junco]

The the new season spirit will come back to travel？Or not come back to travel？

[pale junco]

Yes, they'll come back

[tawny pecan]

Seasonal spirits will always return as travelling spirits, but you will have to wait a while after the season ends for them to return

[lunar jacinth]

Can I ask , what basic bugs you are talking about??

[dry hemlock]

Um I haven't been keeping up but I see people not happy the sword suit is 200 candles? I'd just like to say I'm happy the suit is rewarded for time spent (coz candle running) rather than money spent. A season lasts for like 70 days right? That's saving up 3 candles a day. I think it's fair

[late mountain]

While constructive criticism is welcome and encouraged, especially in #beta-feedback, attacks are not. Please refrain from doing so by calling others hypocritical or cancerous and keep things kind and considerate here.

[pale junco]

And what about the 4 ts that'll come during the season. Also live players won't have an idea of what the price is till the last quest. So they'll be left with around 2 weeks to grind for the pants

[craggy karma]

Lots of people complaining avout rainbow cape being 175, but dismiss the fact that they can get 4 extra regular candles from daily quests lol
I think the same to the sword pants nvm i forgot about TS
Yeah, that pesky once per 2 weeks TS gonna suck up all the candles that players collected in 2 weeks lol

[dry hemlock]

Sometimes gotta decide what cosmetics to get and what let go until the ts comes back again. But it doesn't take hours to get 15 candles a day, 15 candles a day is enough for all ts while saving up for the suit

[cosmic orchid]

then there's Days of Rainbow stuff huh, guess I have to choose and prioritize

[vocal wren]

It’s about how busy people are and if they can afford to spend real money over the time taken to collect 200 candles over the days.

[craggy karma]

Yeah you forgot about the days of rainbows and anniversary lol

[dry hemlock]

I havent. But doesnt season starts in july? Days of rainbow we have known about for ages, ppl shouldve saved up candles for those by now.

[craggy karma]

Then the TS came by and be like "hippety hoppety, your candles are now my property"
Imagine if the long awaited Dismiss come back lol, wow are players gonna suffer big time.

[gusty oxide]

I think the Sword Outfit will only be obtain after you finish all the quest. Lots of time to grind. Seasons usually last for 2 months or so.

I think that’s also the reason why some were complaining why it won’t be IAP anymore, they want to obtain it immediately.

[vestal willow]

Wished that it's just on the first node, so we won't have to wait for so long and some moths will know the price and save up to get it.

[dry hemlock]

I still prefer being awarded with cool pants for playing more than being awarded for just throwing more money at the game

[craggy karma]

Put it as IAP so that if you're impatient and dont want to candle farm, AND IS RICH, you get da pants instantly to put ur tiny feetsy in.

Or wait for 80% of the season with 200 candles to get it for free. Kinda like how buying AP will save you 1 year of waiting for the TS to come back

[astral sapphire]

There’s always gonna be people missing out ts, it’s the most natural thing of all. It’s not so strange for me. When I was a moth I accidentally relived a ts not knowing what it was so I didn’t buy anything. Then I decide to miss out some ts items later to save up for something else.
It’s just like real life man, you decide what you buy with the money you have. The game has no obligation to bend just so everyone can get everything.

[granite spade]

Take care friend, if we continue to exercise our freedom to express and target the company, we might be blindsided again with their business decisions... like you many players are frustrated by the chronic bugs... and talking with an IT professional I learned that sometimes no matter how perfect your code is, it does not guarantee perfect execution hence we should make use of the feedback channels to inform them whats wrong
And yes I agree we shouldnt be rude people
Keep flying and high five 🙂

[rare gust]

using cancerous as an insult is very low

[craggy karma]

That's the utopia only can be dreamed of, lol
Unfortunately not everyone is like everyone. Some are hella rich and just dont CR at all, money for candles goes brr brr vrmm vrmm.
I have one friend who always own the last ultimate reward on the FIRST DAY of the season lol. I don't see the fun in that, but can't stop 'em. The whales are what gonna support da devs and keep this game running. Its a sad reality, yes

[pliant swallow]

youre already kinda rude there bud, i feel like you couldve worded this better. while content making is debatable (depends on ur own opinion) saying they cant fix bugs is kinda? wrong? when theyve been always fixing bugs-

[steady pond]

idk why no one considers the perspective of people who buy IAP candles because they dont have the time to complete a season or time to CR lol. most people who spend a lot of money are working adults who would understandably not have the time to be on a game 2 hours everyday

[lofty totem]

Hold on hold on, feel free to criticise but don't insult any one...

Nobody (normally) here worships tgc and whiteknighting opinionis discouraged normally, BUT tgc like any other company would love to make a buck especially since they are doing a crossover.

Yes, cr is very repetitive and should be cut down as it is so grindy that it almost defeats the purpose of social interaction which I see as main objective... I agree with that part

About the bugs, they are fixing it... The latest UI change was a blunder tho..

Lastly, please try not to offend anyone and keep a healthy environment but feel free to react with your opinion

[cosmic orchid]

with every update and patch, comes more bugs

[hallow igloo]

I look forward to every update. not just for the new features, but also for all the fun and quirky bugs to find and test

[crude turret]

So did TGC tame the beta community with pants already?

[spark lance]

TGC has the best bugs ever 😌 Some of them are actually a lot of fun, I know I have a laugh with my friends 🤪

[astral sapphire]

Bruhhh I wish the walking with emotes is back

[unkempt mural]

Spend a lot of money 🤔🤔 like even buying candles? How about people who can't even buy Ap n spend hours collecting candles everyday?

[dry hemlock]

what? that's what they are literally doing with sword suit I'm not dreaming it. the whales always just gonna spend money, Sky isnt even that sort of game where you can spend thousands a month. why is it sad some people spend a lot on Sky? good for them. as long as Im being rewarded too for playing longer

[velvet mango]

This is unrelated to the current discussion going on here, but I just wanted to ask if there were people who like me, think the Valley pants have a sort of unfinished look

[lofty totem]

Don't murder me for this but I was personally a fan of 15$ iap rather than farming 200 candles, I wish I had so much time to invest in a game lol

[steady pond]

i dont see the point youre trying to make lol. why pit players against each other? if you have the time to play sky everyday to grind, then great. if players dont and they choose to IAP to get what they like, thats also great. no one is better than the other for a different approach, depending on their circumstances

[cosmic orchid]

they slapped us with pants and 200 candles, I'm not complaining

[bright portal]

The pants is definitely close of a price of an expensive ts tho, i know some whalers fork out lots of cash even for ts cosmetics

[crude turret]

Yeah, those are different points of view and that's nice
For example me, who would pay with much difficulty the scarf or pants, and now I can have both

Kartoffel lmao

[craggy karma]

I wasn't proving any points, i was just improvise your previous statement even more
Chill dude

[tawny pecan]

they look a bit like chicken legs

[dry hemlock]

maybe the best would be to have the pants both for 200 candles and also for 15usd iap coz clearly a lot of people prefer iap while others the candles.

(ok well best would be if they were all ulti but yeah next best)

[normal flicker]

P a n t s

[jade sundial]

I am a working adult who doesn’t have a lot of time to play Sky. On a good day I have 40 minutes to CR, on a busy day I can only log in and light my friends. The original $15 price was better for me.

Nonetheless, I am still happy that it changed to 200 candles. After all, paying players have a lot of options. They can spend $55 to buy the candles. They can CR 15 minutes a day (giving 3-5 candles depending on quests and cakes) and gather the necessary candles over time. They can also do half and half. So they are not too worse off. In contrast, players who don’t have money but have time (which is the majority) can now get a premium item that they had no way to get before. I consider that a good trade off.

[rare gust]

this is why I think they should also give the option to buy it as an IAP !

[unkempt mural]

I was making sure you know what you meant when you said spending lots of money
and it's not a grind if we can get at least 3 candles a day which you can do that too, n its great either day

[crude turret]

I consider all this nice feedback yall could give to TGC

[spark lance]

The "leggings"? That's what I call those 🤭

@tawny pecan Yes

[vale iron]

Why is the little prince outfit is 200 candles 😭

[arctic lake]

I personally love them as they are. Like really LOVE them

[spark lance]

Btw,if they put it back to IAP I will cry

[craggy karma]

I think 200 candles are a good decision
We still haven't known the green prince cape prices yet, so good trade

[dry hemlock]

I personally really like them. I need some dark pants that arent redish (I mean dark pants as in the top is dark too)

[steady pond]

3 candles a day might seem easy to you but you cant speak for everyone. i barely have time to login at all lmao. i think you need to know what youre talking about as well

[cosmic orchid]

criticism is good for feedback, as long as everything is respectful
also those who down others because they seem against the decision of the majority and it's a negative feedback, they have opinions too and every feedback to TGC is important
you may argue and disagree but keep it respectful and no insults please I want reacts back
have a great day

[marble cipher]

I dont get this rich people…. Why the need of paying the pants when u only play less than 40 mins…. After all once theres a new item again ur just gonna leave it in wardrobe again

||BECAUSE I WANNA FLEX for those who cant afford 🥺 ||

[tawny pecan]

This is obv my opinion and everyone feels differently about cosmetics I feel like the “valley pants” are missing something on the legs and feet, and I keep looking at them like they’re chicken legs it just seems a bit weird to have gloves but nothing on the feet

[nova heron]

Theory: ||the source of the toxic water in golden wasteland is this channel||

[raw shale]

Same😭😭 it looks a bit weird..

[quaint canyon]

That was.. not so nice to say

[spark lance]

Just saying,but when they added the pant to IGC(and that's it),the game is continuosly flooded with chat and discussion,I love it.

[gilded parrot]

#beta-discussion definitely needs some SNEEP SNORP

[hallow igloo]

I mean, aren't the the narcissist's pants rather than the valley pants?

[dull tiger]

Why are the pants so expensive 😭 😭 😭 for a game that emphasizes not grinding for candles, they sure do make these event items a lot of candles

[unkempt mural]

I can n everyone here does, if you think it grinds to get 3 candles okay.
I know what I'm saying dude 15$ can feed my whole family in a month.
I don't wana continue on this conversation I hope it comes as iap n candles at the same time.
we can stop here.

[dry hemlock]

I've been there, sometimes for months I only log for like 5-10mins a day to do the dailies for seasonal candles or not log at all. and thats when Im forced to let ts go. but generally if you already doing the dailies chances are you can collect 3 candles on the way

[pale junco]

You just added to the "toxicity". Being rude doesn't help in the discussion.

[cosmic orchid]

lets not generalize them
maybe they have the money to buy em because they work hard, and that's why they don't have time
while it's is true the exclusive flex culture is bad, there are those who admire what they bought, they worked hard for their money, it certainly isn't bad them to spend it on things they like

they have opinions, same as ours. it should also be considered

[tawny pecan]

Yes they are but they look similar to valley elder pants hence the nickname

[vivid dove]

good thing our remaining assembly candles will be converted into regular candles by the end of the season, otherwise i would have been doomed

[spark lance]

Skybot will shush us all due to the lack of respect 😐
Can't we all just be polite and use constructive criticism instead of insulting others opinions?
Let's all just chill folks 🦄

[quaint canyon]

As I posted earlier, if you started saving candles day 1 of the season, you would need to set aside 2-3 candles per day for the course of the 11 week season for the 200 candle cost item. even moving slowly this can be accomplished in 15 minutes of regular gameplay
From Ktjn

[marble cipher]

Imagine the fur cape ts came and then that time we can now unlock the swordpant 🤭😆

[steady pond]

haha i think you misunderstood my entire point xD im not american either so USD is crazyyyy expensive here. im saying people may choose to spend money on candles because they might not even have the time to login at all, which is why even 3 candles a day can be a challenge. we shouldnt speak for everyone and if theres any point you can take away from this convo it should be this.

[vast grail]

tbh I kinda feel bad for moths who had to finish Prince 4th quest (hermit valley).

||Cause it means they gotta do dreams quest too||

[hollow compass]

Economics will always be different in all countries around the world for political reasons. It's not something TGC can control or even take responsibility for. For reference, $15 buys me one lunch where I live. So even if I may be "richer" than other players here, it doesn't mean I can throw it on pixels in a game. It's always going to be relative.

[tight bloom]

It's nice that f2p could get something related to the prince in the little prince season. I think 200 candles is a very fair price. Especially since the season last for 11 weeks.

[main vapor]

Will there be beta sky on switch ???

[dull tiger]

Alright, I meant for my little post to be funny, but some of you guys are getting way to heated. It's a game, cosmetics don't matter. Let's all just take a deep breath, and calm down okay

[foggy atlas]

[drowsy wave]

Just came back from eden. Didn't experience any bugs regarding statues ( went after a month). But did experience the painful slow walking in the last lava rain part. I went with around 155 wings and somehow reached the last statue with no more to spare. Another thing I noticed is the last part when we are flying with spirits and friends, the names were not coming in smoothly and when I clicked on my friends their friendship trees tried to appear on my screen. Is that supposed to happen? Asking for a bug report.

[cosmic orchid]

a TS infused sword

@vast grail actually no, they don't have to since the lifts can be actived even without starting the quest
but what moth would know where the hermit valley is lmao

[pale junco]

Violence is against the rules here.

@main vapor there's beta on switch and it will end tomorrow. There maybe more invites in future but it won't be always open.

[vivid dove]

an entire ts already costs around 200 candles or even less 💀

[sullen relic]

That’s actually a good point to consider, have you raised that thought in feedback?

[spark lance]

Why would you want to kill anything at all? That's sooo not nice 😑

[tawny pecan]

The friendship trees showing is definitely a bug, the other stuff you could submit as a bug report or as feedback

[quaint canyon]

Thinking spirit was 195 candles in total
Don't go spirit was the same price
Both are now most expensive ts

[raw shale]

Wait im confused beta invites for the switch are open? Or did conpletely misunderstand

[vast grail]

200 candles are much better than IAP. Depending on how bad one wanna get it. I say it’s fair. I’m also a broke skykid who is lucky to have 100 candles within a week. If you dont have time to play then find uber services 👌🏻

[lofty totem]

@spark lance @pale junco that message was just meant to be a joke

[white latch]

violence jokes are not allowed, even tho idk what did you sent, just saying

woah 3 minutes cooldown? not gonna ask what happened

[main vapor]

So the same beta as this one? If i download it, will i be able to play it whenever?

[spark lance]

People who are too lazy to farm are in a bit of trouble
It takes 11 days to farm at least 200 candles
Of course, full candle run

[mighty sedge]

The season is 11 weeks long. That's enough time to accumulate more than 1,400 candles. Let's not get started on any idea that 200 candles is unfair when two great items of IAP were removed and put on the AP/free for all, in addition to the price reduction of the scarf. Even if you did half a realm for 40 days out of the 77 days of the season, you'd have enough candles for the pants. I support IAP and wish it would have stayed. But 200 candles without need of the AP is ridiculously generous. It is easily ultimate gift quality in contrast to the last few seasons minimum.

If you are a daily farmer, 1,400 candles is enough for the suit and 6 TS. Which is 12 weeks worth. Meaning there won't even be enough TS to cover that candle amount. And doing half that work still applies to 3 TS if not more. Because every TS isn't going to be 200c.

[mighty charm]

For example, it is very likely that new users of a younger age will participate in the event. Can you charge such a child user 200 candles and collect them all at once?

[pale junco]

Nope, no invites rn. Switch beta can't be open all the time. There's a switch beta rn and it will close tomorrow.
The app itself will close. Invites closed a long time ago

[steady pond]

lol i'll likely wont be able to get the swordpants cuz of rainbow event + TS but im still pretty glad its available for F2P at all

[unkempt mural]

I didn't misunderstood I guess you're the one speaking on behalf of everyone
This> (idk why no one considers the perspective of people who buy IAP candles because they dont have the time to complete a season or time to CR lol. most people who spend a lot of money are working adults who would understandably not have the time to be on a game 2 hours everyday)

I was just clarifying this n now you tell me we shouldn't speak for anyone. 🤔
N I think it's not bad to speak for everyone tho

[vivid dove]

imagine multiple expensive ts arriving during the time where the suit with the sword is available... most of us would have to skip some ts we’ve always been waiting for OR we would have to skip the suit with the sword

[worn field]

@lofty totem I understand you intended it as a joke, but some comments aren't appropriate regardless of whether you meant it seriously or humorously Joking about extreme violence against children won't be tolerated

[raw shale]

Ooohh i understand noww thank uu! <3

[hollow compass]

@raw shale @main vapor Beta for Switch was an invite only that was announced in April/May. It was said to only run for a limited time and end tomorrow the 6th June. We don't know if it will open again or close permanently after that.

[spark lance]

About Days of Rainbow, is the flower price still 19,99 USD?

[quaint canyon]

alright sorry but discussing with such a long cooldown and no reactions is too hard for me, bye all good luck and have a great day

[bright portal]

if i were in a situation to decide whether id go for pants or rainbow cape(i love them both equally) id go for pants, rainbow cape is likely (not 100%) returning next year, since Days of rainbow would seem to be an annual event. While as LPP season is only once and gone

[vast grail]

Yes exactly! Dreams entrances are pretty complicated if you’re not an explorer moth (i met moths who only walk straight ahead). I actually hope moths are able to climb there on their own (or youtube the guides). There’s only spirit buttons after all 🥺

@sullen relic no I haven’t. Haven’t done hermit valley either. Thinking of giving a feedback but I think it’s already fitting as in the story, right? They might have to come up with something new if they wanna change it

[mighty sedge]

There is absolutely no reason you cannot get both rainbow and sword pants. Again, even half a realm (especially a FULL realm) a day will give you more than enough candles than you need to complete the Rainbow and Sword suit.

Funny how this 200 candle dilemma is the next in line after complaints of forcing the IAPs to reduce in cost and then be moved to AP/and free for all.

Once again, you can never satisfy f2p.

[pale junco]

I still don't understand how the pants being iap before, justify the price now. Did yall forget about the ts that'll come during the season.

[vivid dove]

too bad i don’t have any time to do full candle runs every single day

[cosmic orchid]

the prices of the Days of Rainbow items have been announced in a patchnotes in #news in live, and Days of Rainbow has ended in beta for quite a long while. I suggest referring to the patch notes I doubt beta would know if anything was changed since it was already over here

#news message

[steady pond]

while its great that its F2P, iirc 200 candles in IAP shop costs much much more than the initial pricing of the pants so its still a good point to think about

[hallow igloo]

oh, I didn't think about that. when the season leaves, the sword pants wont be attached to any travelling spirit, correct? and Assembles the rainbow, I dont believe everyone desires to complete every travelling spirit when they come, and maybe some are under the mentality that when the pants arrive, people would have plenty of time to save, even with ts

[spark lance]

It will available next 3 months,so chill

[tender oasis]

I’m just curious what would be the ideal situation for you guys? I was fine with it being an iap and im not really affected by the candles either but I’m happy because this way my friends who cant afford iaps can have the pants. It feels fair for me personally but I like to see other opinions too.

[bright portal]

if you think about it, maybe the rainbow cape is also priced high because it was supposed to be IAP worthy? new patterns on the cape and iirc ktjn said the rainbow cape needed new tech to make the rainbow color. Maybe that's how they deemed to price it

[vast grail]

Doubt that a child would be as ambitious as this. I think we should help new players with flying so that they’re going to stay long in the game. The season is going to be in a long days, they will be ok!
||by the way hello, your name resembles a friend of mine who went missing||

[tight bloom]

I don't see any problem with the swordpants price. At least now if you really want one, you can grind for it. For 11 weeks as well. Now, TGC just have to make sure the price is visible since the begining of the season so people can manage their candles.

[tawny pecan]

Keep in mind that many people don’t have time for cr, some people don’t have motivation to play sky at all. Simultaneously, a lot of people also don’t have money to spend on sky, or might not want to. These two things are not mutually exclusive
I hope tgc finds ways to accomodate more types of players, perhaps making it available both as iap and igc. Personally I have a lot of candles and not a lot of money so I prefer the igc although I think it’s a tad expensive (I would tops pay about 150 candles)

[vivid dove]

since so many events and ts will be arriving, most of us will have to buy regular candles anyway and i think too many new things are being thrown into the game in one go right now... it’s overwhelming.

[jade sundial]

If I learned anything from people’s reactions, it is that TGC cannot please everyone. They are doing their best though.

[cosmic orchid]

absolutely true
we could all argue here never get an end of it, at the end of the day we've said our points. it's up to TGC to decide, wether its a compromise or decision leaning to another, its their say
Im just hoping it will all go well

[steady pond]

ahhh yes if only i didn't have work obligations and im free for the next 3 months 😔

[pale junco]

It was iap and the price then was judged based on iap items.
Now it's free and we should judge it based on igc items.
It was a iap but now it's a igc. If it becomes iap again will yall say well it was 200 candles before so it should be the same price as 200 candles in the shop.
Basically both currencies are different and can't be compared

[bright portal]

I think the ideal situation for future events would be to have two options for event cosmetics , IAP or candles But there must be a reasonable balance between two of those currencies. I think it's okay?

Secondly is to space out the events more so we have more rest times

[spark lance]

Thanks, just read it 😊 I was forgetting about the hat, it's so cute 😍

[silent lily]

How do you think they can possibly give a very valuable Cosmetic and make it suit for both the people who don't cr and can't make in app purchases.
They really can't please everyone, can they?

[mighty sedge]

The cost of buying candles in relevance to the Sword Pants is moot. The pants were previously what, $20?

The season doesn't even start for another 2-3 months. That's a 77 day season, PLUS 60-90 days to accumulate candles. In 60 days, you can accumulate 2,603+ candles. In 90 days, you can accumulate more than 3,173 candles.

Again. Seriously. First, feedback cries for reduce in IAP prices. Prices get reduced and one IAP is moved to pass. Crying ensues. Now one suit is on the pass and the other, higher praised suit, is free for everyone for a measily 200 candles. In addition to the scarf now being a single IAP and only $15. $5 more than what every person complaining is already spending on the pass.

There is absolutely no limit to the stubbornness and entitlement that f2p and "I don't have enough time" tries to bargain for with a plethora of reasons why things should be adapted to their desires. That is not community feedback or good will towards the community and TGC. It is an extremely disheartening riot of people wanting to be fed everything on a silver platter.

And for what? So when the season is over and the next season and IAPs, "cool items" are out, this discussion can happen all over again.

[slender depot]

I work a full time job with frequent overtime. I don't have time to do a full CR as I have other responsibilities outside of my work. 200 candles is a lot, when you're gonna spend 150 biweekly. That's like two while weeks of full CR. People complain for a reason, even if you don't sympathize.

[steady pond]

lols i was agreeing with your point that the pants costing 200candles is a bit too steep considering we have rainbow and TS going on all at once
although my brain isnt working rn so wording is kinda poor

anyways personally i dont care about missing out on items, sucks but i can deal. but for new players this is a grinding nightmare lol

[tawny pecan]

Yeah they really can’t please everyone, but it seems a lot of people want to be the ones who are pleased

[silent lily]

Also , this is what i have learnt personally, after playing for more than a year and losing motivation to candle run.
If you don't have time/don't want to collect candles, please don't except to get good cosmetics and everything easily, evrything needs at least some investement. If you can't make none, please don't expect much in return too.
:SkyDeepBow:

[cosmic orchid]

legit "can't please everyone" situation

for me, idk what's happening behind the scenes in TGC I'm just assuming they did some painstaking effort to try and make a trademarked item accessible without irl currency

[rose crown]

Did TGC give a reason as to why they never put being capeless in the live version?

[vivid dove]

same here. that’s my point. i don’t have two entire hours free time to gather like 20 candles in a day lmao i would easily have to use up my only bit of free time just to get some candles in a game i think that’s not healthy nor worth it

[lofty totem]

legit "can't please everyone" situation

Just have IAP for 15$ for the same pants that cost 200 candles. Ez everyone happy ig.

[white latch]

probably the cape is too rare

[hallow igloo]

I kind of understand how TGC is offering a lot of options to both appeal to different interests and player bases as well as offering new incentives in the wake of the switch release. I think theyre also trying to indicate that not everyone wants everything, which can be hard for some to understand

[sullen relic]

Off the top of my head: Buggy behaviour with the sky kid’s flying animations, such as your bottom half not moving while doing aerial flips. Also kinda immersion breaking to fly around without a cape

[ruby orbit]

Do you know they made us quite accept seasonal iap objects by their marketing choice??

[tender oasis]

I agree with the overwhelming part. I think we had a lot of short event lately which can be hard to enjoy, if you cant focus on the event itself , but the fear you will miss out a potentially limited item. But since this one is almost 3 months long its not like we need to get all that candle in 2 weeks. So i was more curious about what would be the ideal distribution and form of the items (iap, igc)considering we have a longer period to make sure we can get the item.

[crude turret]

The scarf is already much immersion breaking, hence why it's so expensive and... most probably won't ever come back again-

[mighty charm]

It's not without possibility. It doesn't mean that there aren't children who start this game because they love the Star Prince.
I agree with you about support.

Hello. Sorry, you probably have the wrong person.
I hope you find your friend.

[dry hemlock]

Idk but when I dont have time to play and log for 5-10mins a day to do dailies for seasonal candles I dont expect to be able to get all ts and everything else

[steady pond]

it IS true that if people dont have time to play games thats definitely not the games fault and it shouldnt be the reason why you want XYZ changed.

but i also think both "its not healthy to feel the obligation to grind to collect everything, a game should not take priority over your health" and "the grind is currently too overwhelming and events need to slow down" are statements that can and should coexist

[pale junco]

Yess, they put these prices and are also against grinding 😔

@rose crown ktjn said there's no reason not to release it to live but the decision hasn't been made yet and may never made by team

[tawny pecan]

@rose crown the cape isn’t fit for live version yet, and they don’t have any planned release as far as I know

@lofty totem some people will still complain that it costs too much you can never please everyone

Also I read the little prince book for the first time today it was... interesting

[silent lily]

Yeah, exactly

[spark lance]

In my opinion, the new prices are more than reasonable. Please, try to understand that technology costs money and that the people who make games have to invest in order to give us good content... We CANNOT have everything for free. Let's try to be reasonable, ok?

[cosmic orchid]

here, in the pins

#beta-discussion message

[mental ridge]

Not sure about the maths, but I do agree. It seems to me like people want to have everything and afford everything. Ts, event exclusive cosmetics, seasonal cosmetics... I don’t have time for grinding to spent 175 extra candles on the rainbow cape, and I don’t really like it all that much, so I just won’t buy it. I understand people would like to get things that they like, and that’s one thing, but wanting to get everything and then complaining it takes extra time to gather candles for all that is a bit unfair imo.

[vast grail]

You don’t have to cr all realms everyday... just go to one map or two. It’ll give you 10 daily. 3 maps give you 15. Just don’t use your candles for heart trades or friendship or constellations for the time being. If you’re sent hearts in constellation don’t take it, save it until you could pay. That’s what I do. I tell people I can’t pay.

So you can’t purchase IAP, you can’t purchase IGC. You can’t complain about everything and not making a good decision... you gotta make some effort. It’s hard to please everyone for TGC, but this decision is pretty fair to me. The season is for 3 months. Just pay for a few $5 candle packs if you can’t make it. You can’t want a TS everytime but complains about candles but you’re not making an effort. Complaining about Rainbow or Prince items but not wanting to grind for it. Your playstyle affects you most than anything else.

If you ask me. Personally I have a job too, I have things to take care of irl, I’m at my last semester too, I have pets to feed, house to clean. I still manage to play, I uber my friends. If you struggle and still can’t cr, find a uber. I don’t even mind being a uber to many ppl. Not to brag but I fly 4 realms under 2 hrs if you need an uber, can’t do cr on your own, or be online for more than 30 mins of playing.

[ivory fox]

They are progressively making this game more and more grindy to pressure people to spend money, but hey as long as it is technically possible it’s fine? I dont wanna spend hours every day for 11 days straight for one cosmetic, that is not what TGC has advertised Sky as and that’s not how it has always been. They really do not need more money than before, not by a long shot. I dont know why people justify greed like this

[unkempt mural]

Headline
N if I don't have time to log in or think of playing or have interest I won't urge to get anything at the end which makes no sense for people who farm Everyday

[rose crown]

Thank you all

[wary star]

gren namsp

[vivid dove]

rich people or players who have more than enough free time in their hands truly live in luxury... good for you.

[hoary goblet]

Can we.. not judge whale players? I think some of you are forgetting that whales keep the game running, as well as with any other game out there. Without the 'rich people', we would have way more P2W content because well, they need money to keep the game running which is why whale players are important.

I also think it's a huge misconception that players who spend on Sky are 'rich', but that's definitely not the case for many. Some, including me, just have the extra to spend on Sky which doesn't make me 'rich'.😭 I'm not rich I just have issues<3 HAHDJSD but on a serious note- In the nicest way possible, you don't need to spend on Sky. You can 95% the game with some daily farming(not full ones) and give it some time and you'll have the cosmetics you want. If you don't have time to farm, then ofc prioritise school or work. There's no reason to prioritise some pixels over what's actually important to you, and no one is telling you to put first Sky first.

This is definitely a 'can't please everyone' thing. People complained that IAPS are too expensive and need to be moved to AP. Bashed on TGC because 'they don't ever listen to us🙄✋'. Here we are- TWO IAPS moved to AP and people want it to be even cheaper? Y'all just want things for free. That's not how this works.

[dry hemlock]

and about 200 candles being a surprise for people not following beta, I agree, but couldnt be just there a visible price tag that says 200 candles as the season starts and not when we unlock it

[steady pond]

people in this chat definitely have trouble accepting the fact that how others choose to spend their money ingame is none of their business lol

[ruby orbit]

The tgc people are quite the same of 5 months ago and we players are always more and more so they could go on with their usual prices but they know people loves spending for this hobby🙂

So by THIS marketing choice they made us accept that stupid thing.
Because we seriously pay the pass for gray capes-

[slender depot]

For us workers, parents, pet owners, second job workers and such it's kind of very unlikely that we can dedicate a full 20 hours worth of CR biweekly to be able to afford a suit and repeat the process for a biweekly Travelling spirit, never taking a break to have hopes to have enough for non-seasonal events. But yeah, everyone here assumes everyone has the time and dedication to pledge all matter of free time. We are told by other players that we have time, but we have to suit, the rainbow event and traveling spirits to save candles for and they get critical that we want a little more ease for us.

[wild notch]

MY POOR POOR CANDLES WITH TS, DAYS OF RAINBOW AND NOW SWORD OUTFIT GOTTA GRINDDDD

[atomic urchin]

the best solution☝🏻

[tight bloom]

I dont even understand what do ppl want now? Do some actually want the pants to be moved back to IAP? Taking the 1 thing f2p players can get related to the prince???

[jaunty bramble]

A lot of time will pass from rainbow event till u can unlock the pants though but is also true that in the middle there could be another event where u can spend lot of candles 🤔. Anyway i think there is enough time to save

[spark lance]

TGC never said that they are against grinding, that would go against the game's way for us to obtain candles... They implemented the new candle system so that players would slow down their rhythm, for players not to get exhausted when, what they want for us, is to have a relaxing experience while playing. And we can't do that if we're exhausted, can we?
Take breaks to rest a bit, maybe eat something and keep hydrated.

[tropic radish]

Giving the choice to buy/grind for these items could do...
But, with it being IGC, wouldn't that be the same case ?
Either grind or candle packs ?

I'd rather have the pants stay where they are right now. It's already balanced
What on earth happened here. Another fire ??

[hollow compass]

I don't believe I understand the point of this argument anymore, because it's not leading anywhere and just make people upset.

[vivid dove]

guess sky is gonna become a grinding game for us busy people we will forever be called thankless anyway even though it’s not our fault that we got busy lives to live and that we gotta put something important aside just to get something we want in a game

[opal ravine]

Since the pants are on the qg tree, are they non seasonal?

[quick harbor]

Where is the hand stand spirit for today's quest?

[gilded parrot]

Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it!

[cosmic orchid]

we shouldn't down people who wanna spend money on the game and want to make it easier for them to spend money on
and at the same time, we also don't need to rule out people who can't afford to buy things in the game using money
we have a wide variety of players in our playerbase, everyone can say their opinions, and their all valid, we shouldn't try and be greater or righteous than the other since our situations are always different
let's just respect each other

[steady pond]

me too lol its a mess in here but hey free hugs

[mighty sedge]

@vivid dove
@slender depot

Both of you are making moot points which I had already just clarified.

I am making Vegas wages at $16/hour, supporting the needs and luxuries of both my wife and daughter. That's garbage here.

You both say that you don't have the time for 1-2 hour candle runs, because you're compressing your lack of time into something that doesn't exist. Nothing about attaining all the rainbow items or the sword pants requires you to play that much time.

In Forest, Wasteland, Prairie, Vault, you can accumulate the candles you need in ONE of those realms each day. Without even finishing the realm.

The total cost is 5 to 10 minutes of time per day, for 40 days out of 160+ days. 5 to 10 minutes. If you don't have that kind of time, for 1/4th of 160+ days, you're far and beyond the bracket of Sky players and the high relevancy of the dynamic involved in this game. Most people spend more time on the toilet than that.

And $5 is worth 3 days of that time. Assuming you involve in IAP at all. If you cannot find 5-10 minutes in 40/160+ days, again.. you are far outside the relevancy of who IAPs and CR majority dynamic applies to. And thus you will never be in a category of satisfied players when it comes to iap or seasonal items, under any circumstance.

Because that implies you don't even have the time to collect seasonal wax. Or spend 6.6 hours on the game, in TOTAL, over the course of 5-6 months.

And if that's the case, why do you even care about cosmetics? You don't even play for more than 5 to 10 minutes, or 400 minutes, in a 5 month period.

[dry hemlock]

yes some want. Im personally content with this arrangement. there could be more rearranging that would make me happier, but Im already satisfied with how it is now

[vast grail]

@quick harbor try to go to Citadel! The first spirit on the entrance.

[tawny pecan]

In the valley citadel it’s sort of near the bottom, look for a yellow light flare

[spark lance]

#beta-announcements

[jade sundial]

If you are really busy AND you don’t want to spend money to buy the candles, you will have to choose which cosmetics you get. This is just how life works, people want everything but they have to choose when they don’t have enough.

Another point about being busy, if you are busy to the point that you don’t have 15 minutes to CR, then consider relaxing a bit because constant working is bad for mental health and can actually reduce your productivity. Personally speaking I found CR in prairie, forest, and vault really soothing thanks to the scenes and music 😄

[pale junco]

What i mean by grinding is keep collecting candles for more than an hour or so just to collect 5 or so candles. Not candle running. With the new system grinding will be collecting all 20 candles for an item which can take 3+ hrs

[cerulean olive]

y'all have an entire season to earn the candles tho. no one's forcing you to grind it within a few days. rainbow cape has been announced and there's plenty of time in between. if you're too busy to play the game I'm not sure that's the developers' fault lol

[chrome ivy]

I rather the Cape Scarf to be IGC

[ruby orbit]

We all want this

[kindred fossil]

That might end up costing 400...

[tight bloom]

I mean if you cant even play the game for 15 minutes a day, why even buy any cosmetics??? Do you even enjoy those cosmetics since you apparently dont even have time to open the game?

[wooden raptor]

If you choose realms with more wax, you can get candles easily for 3 and 2 chevrons. Even if you do 1 realm that’s guaranteed 5 candles. So you can collect candles one way or the other, on your own or with the help of others. I am working for long hours and I still manage to get at least 5/10 candles daily. The part that I agree with you is that it’s too busy with events, travelling spirits and season colliding. It doesn’t let you breathe and you are always alerted for wax and it sometimes takes the joy away from playing. And this is because most of us want to get everything we can get. But this results in a choice. If I think I won’t be able to get enough candles, I choose the one time only items over travelling spirits or regular progress. Travelling spirits may return in future but you won’t have another chance on temporarily available items

[leaden radish]

i think we should be good now the whole season reduces to half the original price for everything

[cosmic orchid]

I will certainly accept that compromise once the last quest is out , I still believe it should have the essence of being the final gift

[steep glade]

This is actually brilliant!
This is exactly what should be done. I hate the thought of not being able to get pics with Prince with the suit on, but if buying it were an option, I'd definitely do it.

[tawny bough]

I'm tuning in late, but are people still unsatisfied even after the changes in the latest build?

[vast grail]

I’m sorry to sound mean but if you really don’t have time to play Sky even like 10 or 30 minutes but you can complain in discord for like more than 15 minutes because of the candles, to me, that’s a waste of 10-30 minutes. And a proof that you have time to sit and read. For few minutes.

[steady pond]

hey guys... feel free to continue the discussion but remember to shake your wrists and get some water. be nice

[spark lance]

I actually really like the new esthetic of the season's items. The dark colors represent, very well, the negative side of humans. Just like the chains around all of the spirit's bodies, that represents the negative emotions that keeps each spirit "locked" in. That makes me wonder, if by the end of season, they will be able to free themselves from the chains 🤔

[slender depot]

Bless your wages, my wages arent even half of what you earn. Apologies but your math is wrong, because I have been trying to do at least one or two around daily. You do not get enough, especially when there are multiple events that coexist or go one after the other. The reason we do complain as well, is because this game did not had the same principles it has now then how it started and little by little everything became massive grinding and in a purchases. Bless you, if you can spare the time for the game, but not everyone has the same responsibilities.

[vivid dove]

most of us wouldn’t mind any of the changes if the game wasn’t stacked with so many upcoming events lmao

[tawny pecan]

There will always be someone who’s unsatisfied, that’s the nature of having such a large fan base

[brave topaz]

Apparently so. There's always gonna be people who complain no matter how many changes they make tbh.

[chrome ivy]

Rainbow Event, TS,TS,TS,TS,TS,TS,TS,TS... , And 200 sword pants. I can't even normally progress the game constellation. I halt my realm constellation progress because I need to grind hearts for forest constellation. If you actually want that 200 sword pants, I recommended you to skip rainbow event entirely, buy the TS you only wanted and try to not be wasteful.

[dry hemlock]

maybe some people just need to learn how to be more effective to collect a decent amount of wax in a short time

[craggy karma]

This is what people asked for when the season first started
Now people wanting it to be IAP again
make up ur mind!!

[bright portal]

Cookie break ? 🍪 🥛

[flat oar]

What realms have you been farming in bro?? Prairie gives me about 5-6 candles with 3 chevrons. If you can managed just doing that for 5-10 mins for 40 days, you'll make 200 candles for sure. I understand there's a lot of events but it's all a matter of chosing where to spend the candles that you have

[cosmic orchid]

we have like extra grand looking capes from the past season, and now we have grey and black capes, I really like the these ones, other than being dark colored, they're a break for all those shiny capes ever since from the start,

[sullen relic]

One thing I’d like to mention that I don’t think has really been raised in here yet, unless I’ve just missed it: relative candle costs can vary between users depending on how you socialise as well, because friendship costs can vary wildly between people depending on how extroverted or introverted you are. Just thought that may be worth mentioning when considering how people may have very different economic experiences in this game with candle incomes.

[vivid dove]

AMEN. thank you 🙏

[unkempt mural]

Imagine not having a feedback/ discussion room
We should be thankful to the tgc for providing such platforms that our voice matters to them

[slender depot]

Precisely my point, there are multiple cosmetics are required that big amount of candles.

[steep glade]

Thank you, don't mind if I do.
I'll give you a couple scones for a couple of your cookies, enjoy!
😊💖💫

[leaden radish]

bless tgc they listened to us 🥰

[chrome ivy]

Let's imagine, there's a TS,Rainbow event, Season of Little Prince with the 200 candles, double heart event. In same sake of d a y

[mighty sedge]

The past has nothing to do with the present. And my math is not wrong. The pants are 200 candles. Without even finishing a realm you can get more than 5 candles. 5 candles a day, for 40 days, is 200 candles. 5 candles takes about 5 to 10 minutes.

These are not opinions, assumptions or theories. These are facts. Which I just again laid out for you. You have 60-90 days before the season starts. You have 11 weeks DURING the season. That is 160+ days. Which means for 40 days you are required 10 minutes of your time.

But if you truly can't afford that time, (which even now you have been here for over 20 minutes minimum) then you, as I said, will forever be a bracket that is unsatisfied.

And no, $16 is not nice. You say that because you live in another state or country. $16 is below bare minimum here when supporting a 3 person family and 2 animals.

Again, my math isn't wrong. Either your efforts or your actions are incorrect. Because the numbers I give you are factual. Anyone else who candle runs can attest to that. Not to mention Sky is fruitfully available to uber afk people. Meaning you can log on for less than 3 minutes just to have someone uber you for even more than you'd have to do yourself while you afk the whole time.

In the end, the point is.. if you truly can't spare that time, then it is unfortunate for you. But that puts you below the bar of what TGC and the majority are concerned with as far as leniency and pleasure goes.

Can't please everyone. Never will. And TGC has already been beyond too kind in what has been asked. There will always be someone unsatisfied and feels as if they have a valid complaint.

[restive compass]

Man this place has just been chaos ever since the season started

[flat oar]

And like I said, it's a matter of chosing what events to get cosmetics from. If you want to get more cosmetics, you have to farm more. Even by doing the bare minimum you can still get something

[odd lintel]

I’m just going to give my input about the pants and then leave
Even tho I’m someone who can get enough candles for the pants, I still believe the price should be adjusted for folk who are unable to get enough candles, I believe a price of 125-150 would be fair, although I wouldn’t be affected by a price decrease. In my honest opinion, we should calmly convey our thoughts and opinions to TGC using #beta-feedback and discuss our ideas amongst each other here.

I will be leaving some feedback to TGC, and in a calm manner. We’re here to help test features and give our feedback to TGC before it’s launched to the live game

Also if you want to say anything about this, please don’t ping me since I won’t be sitting here for a while after sending this message.

[lofty totem]

Sometimes it's tgc messing up or sometimes it's players picking up pitchforks for no reason.

/Sometimes it's both

[swift edge]

Yeah I thought that now we would have peace but no one is satisfied

[spark lance]

This alone says a lot about TGC. We should be grateful.

[vivid dove]

i don’t know if you realise this but there are way too many events and other things going on at the same time soon which is the main reason why we are not satisfied

[dry hemlock]

agreed. it really doesnt take that long to get some candles as some make it sound like

[slender depot]

Will your math add up to the suit and the following cosmetics that also add up to a large amount of candles?

[tight bloom]

Pick and choose your cosmetics, people! You really dont need to have them all. You have 1 Skykid that wear 1 pants, 1 cape, 1 hair at a time.

[hoary goblet]

But that's how it works, just like in the real world which you should be understanding as you're clearly an adult with a job? You need to pick and choose what you want if you don't have the time or money. I really don't understand why people are still complaining. If you don't even have 15 mins for 5 candles, then you clearly have responsibilities that should be way more of importance than a few pixels. There are many other games that I'm sure will be of your liking that will be more worth of your time. You, and some others, have been sitting here for an hour complaining that you don't have time for even 15 minutes. If you have time to complain, you'll have 10 minutes for Sky

[cosmic orchid]

for me, I usually do, quest realm, candle cake realm and Vault (with ) and I always manage to drain all my chevrons, sometimes I have extra candles

@elder roost no no, check #beta-announcements, the pants won't stay since it's a trademarked item

[elder roost]

You guys do realize the qg will probably be there at the area just like some of the other qg ryt? Like assembly qg, they stay at the treehouse and you can buy the items whenever you want, no one is forcing you to buy the pants

[ruby orbit]

I know it but

1. we can’t wear chains and that’s a pity, it could be aesthetical as horns
2. only grey color is annoying, ehy don’t they put dark colors? I challenge everyone to say they should prefer one of these capes to their previous favorite.

[vast grail]

To the people that are reading this and complaining and have no time to do candle run daily. Have you done your candle run today? What about using your free time to do sky if you really want something.... or do you need ubers? I could uber... or any other players would love to help you..,
Just... less complain, act more guys...

[steady pond]

i think a lot of the discussion now is the playerbase arguing with itself instead of... the actual game.. and why the game might make them feel this way

also @katzu#8743 , read #beta-updates
nobody reads beta-updates anymore :(

[spark lance]

I don't think the white pants will be available after the season

[tawny pecan]

Also if you think there’s too many events right now, consider mentioning that in #beta-feedback. Everyone’s perspectives are valid, but also remember that tgc makes these decisions based on what they see will work best, which just can’t please everyone unfortunately.

@elder roost i believe the update specifically said it won’t be available to buy once the season ends

Ohhhh I would also like to remind that no one here is in any place to judge someone else’s life, how much or how little they work or earn. Everyone comes from different situations

[swift edge]

Exactly

If everyone that claim that they have no time went to the game to farm instead of staying here for hours to repeat themselves, I bet they would have a bunch of candles already

[leaden radish]

yep they arent

[dry hemlock]

and if you really dont have time to play then how you expect to get everything? let ts go it comes back. Ive only had enough time to play in the last few months to get all ts but before that I either let ts go and only get the wing buff or I only bought what I wanted most from ts. I skipped all the events in winter too, it hurts, but thats how it is. you play you get stuffs, you dont play you dont get stuffs. it's a game you gotta play to get things. you play more, you get more, you play less you get less

[vivid dove]

our complaints don’t necessarily have to reach TGC. we are merely voicing our opinions and situations we do not ask TGC to change anything right now, we are just saying what’s on our mind i don’t know what’s wrong with that