#beta-discussion
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Wow chat is lively
someone fill attacko in on the hype 
oh, the game starts with the cutscene from after you go to orbit, and the game tells tou to go to isle
Let's going back to orbit
Shared Spaces are being tested!
WOAH
...idk what that is 
We get our own spot in the treehouse to decorate with props :D
you make a little nook in the treehouse with your props and other people get to see it
ATTACKO CAN STOP BEING HOMELESS??

For the cheap price of 1 candle per minute
Shared Space is vaguely explained in #beta-announcements, swing by if you want to be filled in on what's new and whatnot
mm a single minute and it costs a candle
cheap price for doing essentially nothing but being kinda cute
✨purpose✨
#beta-screenshots-videos also, we like to show off
OHH THERES A PATIO TOO

i hope this feature isn't done yet
It isn't
I hope this feature isn't anywhere remotely near done yet
It's mentioned that it's still actively in development so there might be some changes in the future
oh wait. wrong chat LOL
I was right about renovating a tree house

Ok but here's a roleplay yt video idea. So you know the TV shows that go renovating ppls houses 
steals

No jk, someone else could make that work much better than me 
can we have a mini blossom tree for our shared space ?
I'll be the judge
or the owner of the house 
ill do you one better, we should just have a tree that changes with IRL seasons
they should have done that with the days of bloom tree 
I wrote this in feedback when we were testing bloom.
The tree changes colours in summer it's green in fall it's orange red ish and perhaps when the leaves start falling that's a new event for free. You only need to change the leave colour
you need to change petal shape too cuz bloom's leaves were very obviously sakura petals
For shared space, you can only add the props you own, right? Oh sad
Still is less work than building a whole new event like sanctuary imo... Unless there's the risk of magenta kingdom again ofc
They've added a lot of instructions too, I don't think I can fit everything in #beta-screenshots-videos 
Shared spaces, huh. They’re fun, kinda like a small house but when you share your space… it really just says “goodbye FPS”. Had a solid laugh at that 
You could also add some sort of lore to it. Like it's "the tree of life-spawning of megabird herself"
||Just tested the Shop “?” Menu and was annoyed at first when Krill wouldn’t even look at me. Just went right over me like I was invisible. Rude. Then I dropped the menu and waited to be spotted, brought it up again, and he lost me. IT MAKES YOU INVISIBLE!!! wth, man, why didn’t I know about this sooner?||
it feels like it's holding the player's hand way too much
that's how the home button was behaving in more recent builds, though i don't think anyone understands the reasoning for the change in behaviour
"hey come here I want to test something!!"
: I'm legally blind
I do like the addition of the spirits reacting once you see them off at temple. It’s so cute and feels so rewarding for them to acknowledge you with different reactions. Some bow or wave. It’s just cute.

Simple question here. Is the share spaces is the new playground? Or the nintendo space?
I think it does a little but, Sky is very confusing and it's nice to have that being made a little more clear
isle was magical to me because it managed to lead you from one place to the other without the aid of cutscenes, yes I know there are cutscenes but those only exist to show new players things they might miss during their playthrough
share spaces is like
your little home where you can decorate using the props
I think it holds your hand too much too, it’s funny I’m saying that since I was the one who wanted there to be more words when explaining lore... but this one definitely feels too much in comparison to the old one sighh
Thanks
Yeah, we think those lines are too obvious because we know everything
But think about the new players who will have no idea what's going on
For them, these help texts are amazing! They even give new info to us , "not necessarily new" players
I find that good tbh, that way new players aren't so lost.
Some manage to get the hang of it quick while others need a little more guidance!
according to when "playground" was used in #beta-announcements, it'd refer to the Nintendo space -- shared spaces is something else that was only introduced in this latest build
Idk what to think, maybe I’m attached to the old ones more... liked how the old intro had a little fire crackling noise in the background, like someone is getting ready to tell an epic tale
Oh i remember there was a survey about new player's difficulty when they first playing Sky
So it's for this change in isle eh:pWow:
Idk which version of isle/"prologue" of the game was better.
But the new one feels better and more understandable, especially for new Players
I disagree. Isle is linear in its design compared to the other realms. It was very easy to navigate. The biggest clue as to where you should go is the big structure - The Elder's Temple.
Anyone know any other things spirits do now to be more “personable”? I’ve noticed they bow or wave to you when you relieve them and see them off at temple. It’s really cute. I’ve heard they watch you more closely when you walk near their grave? Things in their social areas. I think these things are already super cute, but wonder if there are more things I haven’t noticed or heard about yet.
it's pretty easy to remember where to go as long as the "tap on yourself to see where the light guides your way" prompt appears once or twice -- that always sends newbies in the right direction if they're totally lost (provided they don't wander into an area where that doesn't show, like sanctuary)
I remember they bowed and waved before the update as well? When we brought them to the temple
I mean.. in all honesty, how much more guidance does a player need than a giant glowing halo around the winged light in isle... I feel it’s pretty straight forward
I do think the new area to daylight having the path makes sense, I remember getting confused when I first landed there cause it looked like the back of something.. instead of an entrance to something
Hmm, I guess I just don’t remember that as it’s been so long. They definitely watch you more now which is neat.
older games tend to throw you in and let you figure stuff out on your own and thats what i appreciated about sky's first intro...... outside of movement tutorials i dont really think you need much else, text can take you out of the experience if theres too much of it
I don't think the update makes navigation easier/harder
It just makes more sense with how isle is and how the intro takes place.
And those little help texts about evrything are a boon for new players.
Idk about others, but when i was new, i did wish if there was more of a help so that i know what I'm doing and why I'm doing it.
I'm glad they made these minor yet important changes
The extra cutscenes are a nice and welcome change but it's holding the player's hand way too much. Visual clues are scattered throughout the realm to guide you to the next place. I get that it's supposed to teach the mechanics of the game but I feel like that's better done when the player has control entirely.
yess omg i just want to roam! i hate games where tutorials lock me from doing things because theyre just feeding me text
I remember being annoyed about these hand hold moments as I was beginning my journey on Beta. Like, I know how to jump I was already doing it. And as for taking off on your wings, it’s kinda hard to miss that button on the screen enticing you to press it, it would have been fine without instruction.
Also, as a lore person, these texts are nice.
They're just elaborating on the story , which is nice
im taking BOTW as a reference point and you can correct me if im wrong, but there wasnt any tutorial beyond "ok heres how to move and interact with items", and "use this button to attack" and then it was just like. the entire area was free for you to explore however you wanted
and i think thats what sky should embody
They used Rhoam to guide you to the right path, but basically let you do what you wanted, yes. I ran around chopping trees and smacking enemies in the face before I went where I was told.
this isnt relevant to the topic at hand but i guess this is why OOBs are well liked
for a game where the biggest draw is the ability to fly wherever you want, if people cant get somewhere they'll try their damndest to do so lol
I’d agree with that.
Also i feel like we're not the correct judges in this lol
Only the new players can truly say if the new "tutorial" is too straightforward for them.
We've already went through it a 100 times, i think that's why things seem more straightforward to us than they really are.
Anyways, i just love that the little texts pop up, give hints about the story and what we have to do. Feels like someone, is guiding us and interacting with us
wdym, you only go through the first tutorial once? ....except for the times when it bugs out and keeps asking you to forge your candle
Then why are we even beta testing?
They only show for new players or also for veterans first time going through ? (I want to see them XD )
Keep in mind though, Sky was targetted at more than just experienced gamers: some of the tutorials which might feel a bit overbearing to us are probably aimed at people who've never gamed or held a controller before, and those sorts of new players might need a little more guidance to not feel completely overwhelmed (I'm thinking in terms of giving this to somebody's grandmother and trying to get them involved with their family)
but i feel like rather than text there could be other visual cues that could be used instead
Hmm, I kinda like the feeling behind this, that something is guiding you, but I didn’t feel like I was being guided. I know I felt more annoyed being forced to go certain directions. Well, not “forced”, but kinda heavily influenced to go a certain direction.
Oh wow, ||Candlemaker now greets you at Prairie social just like the old Light Awaits NPC. "The Spirits you have already saved will descend to thank you with gifts." He then points at the outfit shrines after you redeem the free hair to try it out||
Ok that's nice, I've seen alot of first time playing sky videos and noone is ever able to figure out that there are Cosmetics we can buy and we can change them in closet. That's actually great that someone tells us that
That's so cool!!
My biggest issue with the new cave cutscenes is how easily frustrating it could be when you aren’t a new player :( they keep triggering even as you’re trying to run past them and if someone else ends up activating the candles, you’re gonna have to press skip 4 or so times ;-;
Full disclosure, the changes to Isle of dawn were not meant for you all.
It is targeted at players who have never heard of sky, or tgc, and based on a lot of feedback from testers who also have never heard of sky or are unfamiliar with tgc or these kinds of games.
We have these things on beta to make sure the changes are stable and bug free, and catch any odd occurrences that did not take place during internal testing and iteration. Because of this certain aspects of your feedback are going to be loaded with knowledge newbies don't have and a little bit of prejudice against changes in general.
It might be kind of wild to think that the overwhelmingly vast majority of people who download sky never make it to the dawn temple before uninstalling and walking away forever.
I feel like maybe I put it the wrong way.
What i meant is evrything will seem more straightforward to us because we already know what it is, we have already experienced it.
But for someone who has never been through that place, it's a totally different thing. That's why i said, only the new people going through isle cam accurately tell whether the intro is too guiding or it's fine.
I didn't say we shouldn't give feedback
I hole you understand what i mean :D
I would like to have been informed that we didn’t need to buy things from the constellation after we finish our first realm. We weren’t, were we? As a baby I accidentally spent a bunch of my candles because I didn’t realize that I didn’t need to purchase the things at the end. My Fiancé had to stop me.
Wait, I woke up to a lore-y Isle???
lovely thing to wake up to, I’m excited
finally, spirit lore
I remember i downloaded sky with my friend and I'm already very interested in the cosmetic, but don't know how to purchase it. My friend ain't very interested and deleted sky in an instant becos she couldn't understand. But there's a lot of tutorial in yt that help me get through every realm
Influencing isn't bad imo, but taking control away and insisting on moving the character to a place you don't want them to go is
The cosmetic tutorial is very well explained, as a moth I actually remember struggling to understand how those worked
But ktjin will these cut scenes activate for us as well? What if I merge in with players who keep lighting the candles at isle’s caves ;-; I can’t even run past them and I’d have to keep pressing the skip button
I have also been snatched by the top of pride rock where wl is and forced to fall out of the sky. Unable to move. I have to restart. =_= It’s happened one to many times.
lol if there needs to be a tutorial about anything itd have been about how you shouldnt carelessly spend candles on benches
Breaking news, moths can now complete isle constellation in record time 📈
that sounds like a bug, but i'll have to check with the folks who worked on the dawn changes. if things remain that way in the next build, please let me know.
I haven't merged on a fresh account, which should be the main concern so new players wouldn't be overwhelmed
Most players I've led and been led by fly above the cave to avoid cutscenes
I’d like to be able to voluntarily see these changes - it’s valuable lore.
lore chat will adore it
will go on Beta at some point and write a thing
Ah, I’m constantly hitting skip in Forest Temple Area. Sometimes more than 3 times. So that’s probably a bug. I’ll report it next time it happens.
this would be hilarious if it was even considered because your moth avatar will go near a bench and the text at the bottom fades in to read 'dont do it newbie save ur candles'
"hey bud, spend carefully"
so spirits are much more sentient than I thought...interesting
"the lv 6 wave emote is more worth it than this lowly bench, child of light.... please reconsider"
"fam, u gonna be in a financial crisis late game"
This is a very interesting comment to me. I remember there being items available in the closet when you arrive at Prairie and someone explaining how to get these items, but it was such a long time ago now and the game has changed in so many ways, perhaps I am now just thinking it was obvious, but it wasn’t.
This pops us when you enter 1 krill area:
"hey bro, try not to get bonked by the shrimps"
It’s hard to miss the flashing closets tho.
Or perhaps, I am assuming that anyone who picks up Sky has a basic knowledge and experience of gaming, thus knowing where to look for things.
sky is a truly innovative game, not only does it let kids fly and make friends, it also teaches responsible personal finance
Welp, i missed them
I probably did too at the time. XD I was more interested in the benches and grey people.
I can't really say much about the current topic, I was guided and hand holded by a friend when starting out 
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time to think of what murals to put in my fan season now, there’s actual spirit lore at long last...I have been awaiting it
ones that elaborate on it, maybe?
Yeah well, when i think from a perspective of someone who has never heard of sky, the changes kinda make sense
that's the thing, yeah; we can't account for all the players who don't continue the game shortly after starting it since we're very unlikely to run into them, as opposed to moths who've figured out how to change their hair already
opinions on this would be subjective for sure, but im glad i got to do everything as a moth from isle to my first eden run alone. i wouldnt have had it any other way. maybe i was lucky to be playing sky at the time i did 
I’ll say the changes haven’t really hindered me as a vet flying into Isle to get light. Only when going to get wls and even then it’s mild so is it really annoying or problematic?
I just feel “finally, some good damn food”
i noticed the isles alter isnt glowing blue
on a serious note do yall think tutorials or some sort of text explaining TSes would be helpful?
god knows the amount of moths who missed their first TS and regret it sorely because it doesnt come for another year (or more) due to RNG
Unlike the freaking Trials cutscenes that we have to tediously skip after trials or annoyingly endure at the end of trials to get to the wls. =_=
The second issue is that anyone can be activating these candles behind you and you’d be currently forced to participate in the next cut scene ;-;
Here’s a scene of me minding my own business and some kid behind me lit the candle stack and I got stuck:
Y e s
Maybe there is a way to integrate first time tutorial cutscene for people's first ts? 
100% this. I missed Sassy and Hair Tussle appearance due to my moth self not knowing them. 
Isn’t there one in the game already, when you click their tree? I don’t remember.
That would be nice
Yeah, like if there's a ts and a moth taps the "?" On it for the first time, an intro should apppear explaining how they work
It took me a good amount of time to understand how ts work and that's why i missed crab call and piggyback spirits back then :')
You have to find and relive TS to even open their tree.
Or perhaps the Inbox can be used for this? Posting tutorials for things you need to know as a newbie?
I agree, it’s nicer to be exploring the world on your own... a big part of what makes sky fun is exploring every nook and cranny...when someone flies for you, helps collect all the spirits for you, it’s taking away the fun of discovering those components yourself.... which is why I let moths do their own thing and just walk behind them for the duration I’m with them
The cutscene can mention things like hey, this spirit is time limited and will leave soon , grab their cosmetics before its gone. But don't worry they will return again
Something like that i guess
would moths actually even have the candles necessary to chase after the first TS they see? though i suppose it's still good to clue them in sooner rather than later so they don't miss more than one
I meant that there was perhaps a ‘?’ in the tree, like there is for the seasonal qg.
Or just a scene for every new (To you) TS with a sort of cutscene hint as to their location so we can go relive them without having to look up where to find them.
Hello beloved citizens! Skybot here to remind you all that if you are having trouble finding something in Beta, please submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback! Please make sure to search it yourself before asking, and together we can help many Live skykids have a great experience 
Yeah, even if they can't purchase anything, it's just nice to know what they are
i guess you could also say there is an issue with why TSes have to take precedent over base game cosmetics, but thats like an entire other can of worms to open 
They should at least afford wing buff and maybe a few emote tiers. Edit: helps us shepherds let them know about Eden before it leaves also
Do you guys really want more cutscenes in the game?? I really don’t want to press skip every time a new raveling spirit shows up 
If I’m not mistaken, they need to unlock valley first to be able to catch TS though
I want more cutscenes
It doesn’t take all that long to play through the game once.
About TS: The scene could be a hint to their location. If you don’t have the spirit’s emote already.
I hate having to look up where to find them.
If tgc put so much tutorial it will only end up like other game where they have a lot of damn text and I usually skip all of it
And i bet it would be hard to explain everything that happen in the game
Well, i guess it depends, i don't really care because we can always press skip which takes a second. But i guess some players don't like that
Oh I can see that being a problem then
For a person who knows how to play game, it doesn’t take long. But when you don’t know what you are going for it could take up days to get there
In my moth days i was so sad that we cant try ts cosmetics in closet
Exactly, it’s a 2 - 3 hour game when you’re breezing through the arenas, I feel this new isle is just too hand holdy... didn’t they remove so many versions of isle before in beta because it had too much hand holding? I really think it’s redundant to have the camera zoom into the star on the boat in isle... it’s already soo bright with a giant halo on it
To be fair instead of a cutscene tutorial, like what bleptia said, ts arrival reminder from inbox along with a brief description on how they work would do
Yeah, that's what i was thinking.
All these things, tutorials seem unnecessary to us , maybe that's just because we aren't new, we always know each and every detail. It's really a day and night difference between us and new players towards whom these changes are directed
That’s an excellent idea. I’d also like a hint to their relive location too. Especially for moths. Like, “Forest Brook”
lol TS's really hold the root to so many of the grievances people have with the game i feel. like
- you have to candle run a bunch, the game gets too grindy, making people quit
- you have to wait for an unknown amount of time to get whatever you want, at which point most people could quit
- the flexing people do before the TS with the limited cosmetic arrives can create a bad experience for people, prompting them to quit
I like the inbox idea, I really just don’t want more cutscenes in the game, I think it already has a lot of unnecessary ones... or maybe what they can do is disable the activation of these cutscenes when you have a certain amount of progress in the game
They can even link their TS FAQ in the message , sounds handy to me
Lucky me i managed to grab my first ts but didn't grab the 2nd ts (1st was crab call, 2nd was piggy lvl 2)
Don’t they ever think about skip all cutscenes button in settings for experienced players
im not sure if anyone answered my question yet but
was anyone able to switch accounts in beta?
I got lucky that I had my Fiancé there to help speed run me to get my first TS which was in Vault.
Welp, it woulve been different if the ts system was never introduced.
Now they can't take it away or remove it because it's already like a huge part of the game.
I do feel that sky would've been better off without any ts system
Oh I like this idea
But they also give people a back up plan - in case you missed something, in case you didn’t join when the season was around, in case you brought a pass but couldn’t finish the season, in case you had to take time off from the game because personal reasons, in case you joined but didn’t know what seasons were so never participated
Iirc, the reason why some cutscenes are skippable and some are not is due to their engine build. So it takes time for them to even make a skippable cutscene
There’s so many good things about the ts too, I feel they became a very important part of the game, especially with sky expanding the way it is
“- the flexing people do before the TS with the limited cosmetic arrives can create a bad experience for people, prompting them to quit”
But this is something personal that you can’t be made responsible for. Feeling inadequate has more to do with you than others. We should always strive to be kind and respectful in the game, but it’s not possible to know how others perceive that.
theres good and bad to TS, but i think everyone can agree that the current system needs to be ... looked at ... lol
The most annoying scenes now before and after trials and boat to ark
Is there someone who didn't know the setting system is on the top right when you're still a moth? I'm literally confused to how to get home and get back until isle entrance and found nothing lmao, that's how dumb i am when im still a moth
finally some spirit lore in Isle though
imma just...hhh
thank you, devs
I take several things back
I honestly wouldn’t have much motivation to continue playing if there were no TS’. Events and Seasons just aren’t enough for me. I’d have nothing much to save up for.
The problem in my opinion is how the daily light system was introduced to reduce the grind, but now cosmetics cost double the price making the daily light systems introduction a complete waste
ig you guys are too busy
^^^
My grudge with more recent events and additions exactly
such as gay Thrillseeker Rainbow QG’s tree
I had to google everything when i first play 😬 to make friends to open setting to chat. Everything
You aren’t supposed to have more than one account. It’s against TOS.
Didn’t I reply to that yesterday?
i was busy so i didnt see
oh, definitely. id argue all 3 i list are personal grievances, but its most of the reasonings that i see around on twitter or from friends i introduced the game to who have quit, which is a bit sad... 😔
I tagged you, I’m fairly certain. 
then why is there a switch account option?
use the searchbar and type "in:beta-testing-discussion mentions: (urself)"
The reason some cutscenes are skippable and others aren't has to do with how they were built into the engine. The team is working on improving this, but it's going to take a while to sort it out and essentially rework how the whole thing is constructed from the ground up.
About cutscenes by Ktjn for the earlier mentioning
A lot of things are in beta because they’re also in Live.
Not sure, tho I guess it doesn’t really matter as long as you aren’t using it to benefit one of the accounts. Like heart trading.
Well, it doens't really matter for me, i don't really care about cosmetics, i think at this point, the only reason i open sky is to chat with friends, play music and do quests so that the pass doens't go to waste.
But i do understand there are a lot of players who play differently, which is expected. There are some who really love to express themselves through Cosmetics. i still remember how many people were ready to quit when the ts pass system was introduced
I'd just say they(ts) can be amazing for some, acceptable for some while horrible for others who experienced the "Cosmetic toxicity"
so spirits can move between realms? that clears up some studf
Anyone on Android or all platforms, in general, that keeps getting screen freeze?
im pretty sure its cuz theres people who share a device (most commonly iPads) and play on their own separate accounts, stuff like that. i know a couple of friends who do this with their younger siblings 
Needless to say I’m never entering the new isle caves again.. I’m flying over them
Makes sense. Thanks 🙏
good lord I remember that
I got rather distressed kcjfhdufurfj
but the system was worth a try
from what i've seen, the price range of the cosmetics haven't changed since halfway through 2020 or so -- they haven't increased around or because of the daily light system, though i also don't know if you meant "the price of cosmetics doubling" relative to when the TS system first started (where everything was extremely cheap in comparison to halfway through 2020)
Welp ||~~ it kinda made me sad how many people chose Cosmetics over friends, but i think evryone has their reason and I don't need to know theirs~~||
tldr: you cant please everyone but can only decide whats best for all in general
Also, I’m curious about the new Isle cutscene.... I’m not a beta player, but I’m curious about it cause lore 
Did the lore of Sky get revamped? Interesting, it seems the lore of Sky isn’t actually set in stone and the devs are still working on it, so it changes from time to time
In this sense, I really meant the event cosmetics... a prime example of it being the rainbow cape..
oh right, the event cosmetics are another story entirely 
Cuz maybe different family members share the same device to play?
I got a really weird bug yesterday that I’m unsure I can replicate: my controller ran out of battery and then I suddenly couldn’t scroll emote/closet menus by using the screen input instead. Had to restart my phone.
I don't think it got revamped, there are just more hints about the story and the gameplay both
"Cosmetic toxicity" is still in the game? After 1.5 years?
Wait I’m lost the spirits are no longer there in isle?? I can’t go to their gravestones and have them appear
Wanted to clarify since a point was brought up. Wasn’t trying to scare you or anything. It’s against TOS to use other accounts to the benefit of one account, but having more than one on a system isn’t necessarily against TOS on its own.
Switching would be as simple as choosing sign in method and clicking an account linked to your other account. Like google play being your main account for example and Nintendo being a different account.
Switching accounts also make it possible to switch devices. You can play through your phone or your tablet or your switch this way. It doesn’t always mean having multiple accounts
ohhh
I have my sounds off so i wouldnt hear ping sounds
i would only see the notifs
And like I explained yesterday, you can’t switch accounts in beta, because you have to accept the invite through the account you play.
That's something that can't be changed, because that depends on the people who are playing the game. There are still many who don't like moths, don't be friends with people who don't have nice Cosmetics i have experienced it myself so
Shallow people exist everywhere.
that's a really sad way to look at a game tbh.
that makes sense to me relative to how android seems to behave, but it doesn't make as much sense to me with iOS since Game Center and your Apple ID (which is what TestFlight actually uses) can be completely dissociated
It's moreso changes to the tutorial rather than lore, things are much made more clear to new players, it's nothing were not aware of
Let's not belittle others on how they choose to play the game, there are lots of different play styles that might not suit you at all.
I don’t really look after moths out of an anxiety of feeling considered responsible for a first impression, and fear of messing up and therefore their view of the game
the difference is that’s out of a genuine reason rather than “new people bad”
Which is why I think the traveling spirits level that playing ground... everyone has a chance at them, some people may not like it, but current moths who enter the game, current players purchasing season passes, are doing so with the understanding that at some point these cosmetics will return for in game currency
Well, maybe. But we’re highly discouraged to have multiple beta accounts anyway.
That I agree, but on the other hand, looking down upon other players just because they don’t have nice cosmetics, or being selfish and wanting an exclusiveness of your own cosmetic is a toxic behavior and is against the value of friendliness and altruism of the game.
My best skyfriend and I didn’t have piggy or warp unlocked for a long time because we were both broke. But it doesn’t mean that cosmetics worth more than friendship. I can unlock the piggy with my friend anytime but the timely events or ts won’t come back again or soon. It’s related to how you prefer to play the game
They kind of made the new intro to sky where the cut scene after orbit is played at the beginning, like journey’s.
this is the first time i see Rageleaf online, is that a new staff member? 
I personally like having new moths to look after, but I’m really stingy about my candles after all these new events that have cropped up. I need 200 per TS, just to make sure I can buy everything, and now 245 for Rainbow Event. I can’t afford friendship right now so I just don’t add people or update friendships. It’s really kinda depressing that I am forced to choose between one or the other, but I choose the cosmetics because I’m compulsive about it. It’s what allows me to enjoy the game.
for sure. i myself dont add moths as much as i used to because of a few bad experiences, but it doesnt give me justification to be mean to them for no reason lol. as cute as our avatars are in the game, the people behind them are very much real
That's true. It's not nice to just get on and see the words "cosmetic toxicity" because there's tons of people who intend on collecting cosmetics. I thought those words were directed at those people. My bad
I don't add moths cause most of the ones I friend don't play anymore
hopefully the new additions to isle will lessen that from happening 
I don't know how but today i met Definickly Foxie and Nastymold
That too. Cosmetics can’t just leave you. Lol
ok but I do want Nod again soon for the sake of a lot of Switch players having access to one of The most useful emotes Ever
Nastymold??? ;-; why does everyone run into her except me ;-;
She does come on here sometimes😂
nod is an essential emote and shouldve been in the base game, you cant change my mind 
Ye
we need Nod again as hhh
Yes pls
And shrug imo
nod repeat for switch moths whenst
that’d be genuinely great
right like, how do you have "No" as one of the first emotes you learn but not "yes"
Why do I feel that we are getting one of those emotes as next ts?
u need a rare seasonal emote to even symbolize agreement in the game
tgc why
My most used emotes are honk, bow, laugh and cry
They both have come back as far as I recall. They have equal chance of returning tho. I’d love one to come back. A break would allow me to not have to grind to the bone for events and TS’. If even one TS between now and end of Rainbow Event is a repeat or Sanctuary or Prophecy I’ll be spared and could afford Rainbow Cape and all the other items without worry.
Honk is an emote? Yeah right 
i love that most people use bow as a greeting lol. we're all so naturally polite
*spamming bow after lighting stranger
Tru that
Ye I know collecting cosmetics is a reason and huge motivation to play the game for many. I think that’s a pretty valid reason, we all enjoy Sky for different reasons yet here we are having fun all together, whether it’s for friends, or cosmetics or any other reasons. I don’t think when they say “cosmetic toxicity” it’s directed at people who play the game for cosmetics, but rather those who belittle others with it.
i look like im headbanging
I think waving Is a nice break from the norm
And thanks for helping with things too. I know when it first happened to me I was so pleased. It feels so nice. Now I do it all the time too.
Max headbanging
Usually we use hand wave when we're about to leave, don't know why
i thought the same. its always "wave as in byebye," not "wave as in hello"
I remember someone saying shared space is a space where the assembly props will have collision... so true hahaha
Sky
Disney.... When?
That’s what I thought too. Like those people who act like past season cosmetics, not just ults, shouldn’t come back. Saying they’d quit if those things were all brought back because then they would lose their “exclusivity”. I’d rather those items not die out after all those people inevitably quit playing.
Plot twist it was a bye emote the whole time
/j
uhhh idk that sound so expensive-
I greet hello with the lvl 6 wave. I generally say bye to strangers with lvl 1.
similarly, the hypocrisy behind people who want both TS and android exclusive packs cuz of the switch pack will continue befuddling me forever
It's so tricky to please an entire player base, isn't it?
Even God can't pls everyone
meanwhile blow kiss can be used for hello, goodbye, anything!
this is... the first time ive ever heard anyone use it like that 
I use blow kiss as a greeting. 
Ios still has no exclusive pack either...
Exactly, and Sky is a game about sharing most of all
joy shared is joy multiplied
i blow kiss everyone
I spam that at everyone I play with. My children!!! I love thee.
whoever write message that keep dissapearing, rip
Aha yea
When was the last chance to get the blow kiss emote again?
Wow
I’m surprised by that. The lvl 6 just seems so enthusiastic. Like you’re really excited to see someone. Level 1 feels calm like a gentle bye.
In my mind Beta Cape is already a exclusive to some iOS player.
especially lvl 2 (?) blow kiss, i dont like accidentally doing the lvl 4 because that one looks so cocky haha (fitting of the actor ofc)
I was using that too but then i saw some comments about ppl thought someone using blowkiss just weirdo and unappropiate so im using it only i’m comfortable with
I know there's a founder's cape but it's too expensive and beta cape is free/only iOS
It seems Valley is now kinda purple? Based from the portals and stuff. Tho, I have to admit, red fits Valley a lot better. Purple fits better if it was Dusk themed, and GW represents Dusk. Valley is Sunset
I usually use lvl 1 bow as a greeting and lvl 6 hand wave as a goodbye
I wish he’d come back. I need to level up my blow kiss. QAQ I was a moth when he first came.
Blow kiss pants supremacy...
Now that Isle has been revamped to include new murals and story pieces, what's going to happen to the other island at home?
Nothing's -really- exclusive, since you can merge accounts to get them on other platforms. I mean sure, you need to other platform to obtain it, but it's never really locked to any others
welp, i guess i am a weirdo- but i didnt mean anything bad, thats just how i greet everyone 
Also, I prefer the old murals in Isle. Well, not that I hate the new one, but they seem a bit too big? I liked it when it was a lot smaller and simplistic
i love that there's like a lowkey skykid culture around how we use emotes like wave and bow, there's certain "etiquette" in some areas and of course the little tricks and glitches passed from veteran to moth like a tradition
Yes, that emoto is one of my favourites and i waited to have it so long
Never thought some thing like that
Like, the new murals in Isle look bigger than our skid now- 
tbh i saw blowkiss as innocent goodbye gesture that children always do to people they close to. my little sis always do that haha
How to pronounce skids? Sky-ds or just skids?
Alright off to bed with me. Good night skids!! Hope you all have a good day/night depending on where you are. Don’t forget to eat and drink when you need to. And rest if you need to too. ❤️ 
just skids
Idk always pronounced them like you pronounce skit
I pronounce them weirdly in my head. In my head, its "Es-kid"
Ess-kids for me
So many interpretations
i legit just pronouce it as skid
Also, are the old murals now non-canon? I always liked them cause I saw them as extentions of the Prophecy Murals. Well, more like the Prophecy murals were extentions of the old ones since they were there first
soup
ski-d
I pronounce them Sky-ds bcuz Sky... feels more legit
I don't think so, the old murals are just as canon as the new ones. The new ones are more friendly to the Skykids who had just fallen to an abandoned kingdom
Tho, RIP old cutscene...
But you know... the new text seems to strongly correlate with the Elder pin poems...
sgkagsjs wait i need to cr on live first i will open beta later eee
"Dear Child, we saw of your return to us" - Isle Elder pin poem
Also I think murals revealed during seasons aren't placed chronologically, it consistently shows you the past but it might have happened before Enchantment or Rhythm
"Dear child, we waited your return" - Forest Elder pin poem
The amount of time taken to research that piece will be a lot
here is the thing worth mentioning
isle elder and forest elder only refer the child as one being (instead of Children, which is prural). this means that before whatever cathastrope that destroyed the kingdom happened, there was one Child of Light
Are these changes from the current beta version that we're just now discovering or did I miss an update lol
Nope. Explore a little bit and see
Well, we do know there is one child, which is the kid that crash landed in Isle in that spirit memory...
Prince theories intensifies
y e s s s s s
and the fact that the fallen child on isle fell with star of bethlehem symbol-
Wait, who is talking to us in the new cutscenes??? Not the Light, since they refer to the Light as something seperate from them
The voices of the dead????
Vault elder?
wait are you guys talking about isle cutscene or intro cutscene???
maybe the original Child of Light inside us?
there is a theory that we, children of the light, were made from fragments of the original Child of Light
I mean the new stuff in Isle. Now, there's someone talking to us as we go through Isle and enter Prairie, but idk who is
Intro cutscene probs gone now
I'll check with a new moth rn
Go through #beta-screenshots-videos, you'll see what I mean
Yeah bug reports did help
out of topic but is it okay to ate raw butter

Unsalted?
y e s
Sure you can. It is not poisonous. But mostly used for cooking and baking

its so smooth when you bite into it, but kinda oily on tongue-
Can't even imagine
N o
Can we eat @fervent patrol?
anyway
Also, I feel like for the Shared Spaces, there needs to be some place where we can teleport there from Home instead of going there from the Treehouse
Or perhaps anywhere like how it is with Home?
If you have been there and come home, use of return shrine, you land in front of the Treehouse. But you go into any other realm you have to start from social space. Has been the case everytime. Could we have shortcut into Sanctuary?
'The spirits of this realm have long awaited your arrival... and your light'
okay thats sound threatening for some reason lol
But at least being able to teleport to Shared Spaces directly from Home rather than having to go to Forest Portal and all that stuff
your light, hand it over
'we have waiting for so long for your arrival... oh and your light too'
✋ (🔹 🔹) 🤚
This may be a dumb question, but can you friend people who play live while ur on beta? That's just not how it works right?
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give light
Doesn't make a lot of sense, think about other places, to reach it you have to go manually
It’s not very far tho. I don’t mind going through Forest at all.
imma glad that devs are focusing on new players right now honestly
but an Isle overhaul is bound to be a little shaky, it’ll get sorted though
Beta and live are two separate versions of the same game. You cannot friend people on Live when you're playing on Beta and vice versa.
Also, aren't you a butter that flies? Surely you can flap your wings and get there pretty fast
Okay that's what I thought, thank u
Maybe that's just me. I just feel like itd be fitting to teleport to there from Home since Shared Spaces seems to be a second home for our skid now
I think my theory was confirmed that reliving spirits lets them travel between planes rather than just this one
I'm on a new moth account rn, here are the changes I've seen so far: when you're first born there's the same shooting star landing at home animation as when you get reborn, old mural cutscene is no more
The mural cutscene’s gone??
oh no
that one’s valuable though
Yeah it's gone. I wonder what's gonna happen to that island
that one’s very valuable - maybe both could work
lorey introduction and then more lore
Also, Ash said once it had its own secrets, so I see of it as a big deal for them to remove it. Though, Ash also said its the tip of the iceburg, sooo...
I bet the lights are still there on the islands, I'll check it today 
Well, the Treehouse is definitely "a home away from home"
imma write for feedback as taking away the cutscene feels wrong
well eventually
h I’m being active in Beta? what is this
What island? O_O
get on your gat, Voluntary
time for adventure
I liked the old cutscene, but I lile how the new stuff in Isle explains more
Every beta tester has its own day
The island at home that's far from the main place. It's the island that's shown to you during the cutscene, and has the murals on it.
tgc never directly to the submitter for feedback, right? im not sure where to put this in, in feedback or in customer service since it's kind of half question half feedback (actually, relevant to live too)
They couldve just made a new kind of Intro cutscene that has both the new Isle stuff, but same style as old intro, but there's a chance that doing that is a bit complicated so idk
wait the inteo island is gone now?
why was that censored? there was nothing wrong with that sentence that I know of
anyway
I really liked the old cutscene when we first started the game during we fell from the sky but the new one really adds that cave and make u feel u start a journey
They wanted new player to participate but all that's happening is isle dragging them to the temple 
Whatttt how do we get to it?? Wait how do you guys know this?
the islands are still there?
That has changed. Check isle again to see if it still pulls player.
ah, so there’s a debate between this? oh boy
I really don’t know what to think now
I say both cutscene and cave
The intro cutscene IS gone, but the island it takes place on ISN'T.
They could also have done the new explaining in Isle Elder, tho I think its too late to change the Elder cutscenes a bit. Also, that's very old concept art-ish so meh
Looking for new place in isle, somewhere like small island under the sand
I'm willing to bet the lights for the old intro murals are still there 
I like the murals more I’m kind of sad that it’s gone too... not that I could have rewatched it anyways but man that fire crackling In the background, the music in that scene - it’s all a 10/10 for cinematic prologue
Yeah, but explained too little as well
the cutscene being overhauled is damaging, I absolutely adored it coming into the game
Generally anything submitted to feedback will be read by devs but wont get a verbal response, you could try sending a dm to thathelpbot though if you need an answer to a question! 
you indirectly get a response in-game
How do we even get to that island?
Ngl i was one of the not experienced in gaming clueless moths and i didn’t remember a single thing from the first cutscene until i saw it again when i became a beta. I think this change is nice and helpful to keep you interested in the story too, because you can rewatch. (But im so unlucky in general i got permanently stuck with the first wing
that’s something which would definitely happen to my moth self too)
I had my own theories about it, but with that theory, I realized that the Intro may have been a bit messy in terms of the lore and what happened
good point
it’s the way it’s presented for me - the sort of visual story style with lovely murals
I do kind of wish it had the same cinematic appeal though.. but I’m guess that’s gone forever now
that’s my worry
I wish for it to be kept if possible for its appeal
Okie imma have lunch now
Hello
Maybe they could at least keep the music... during the reliving in isle
It was possible way way back when in late summer 2019, you could use a table to get yourself past wind walls by continuously placing it down in midair while sitting on it. The islands are very windy though as a result of being past the wind walls so you couldnt actually get around and walk on them-you had to stay on your table. 
Maybe its just me. I like the new stuff in Isle since it gives us lore afficiandos more crumbs to work on 
I hope cutscene island will forever stay tho as an oob treat for the crazy ones.
How do I get to the cutscene island?
Im not sure if the islands are possible to reach anymore-if they are id be curious to know 👀
I heard from a friend the table tornado doesnt work to get there since the ground doesn’t reach all the way out there 
I just played the new intro and I love it! I really think it’s perfect for a beginner player as Sky has quite a large learning curve. For sure, some things are obvious and others are not at all. I get so many questions daily about the most basic beginner things and this new intro seems to answer a lot of them while still maintaining that “indirect” way of storytelling!
At some level it always was with bicycle and slow mo but that well require precision ( which i dont have) and not really driveable around. But it’s kinda the same as eden whale. Constant challenge to figure a way to get there.
I bet you actually have a really good sense of what new players get confused about and how theyd respond to the changes Nasty 
Yeah, I actually tried Sky a few times before I decided to actually stay
I really wish it had been possible to visit them back during days of love-they got the pink grass too 
Also if anyone does reach those islands someday, the murals are on the backside and only show up when youre physically close to them
theyre shy
Back then, I was so confused, tho, I left mostly due to device issues and stuff back then, but yeah, they were really confusing for me as a moth back then
It was the same for me and that’s why I made guides when the game came out
though early beta was a lot more confusing, I probably tried to play the game a good 3 times before I finally got it
I remember i completed the eden with your guides coz i was lost and quit a few times 
I remember as a moth being so confused and mildly peeved that the candles i had lit earlier that day weren’t giving me more wax when i lit them again 
Ooh, same
mothventures?
i was SO confused as a moth... it's a good thing veterans took pity on me and helped me out 😅
Also when i first loaded up isle i immediately turned away from the big rock cave and started swimming into the ocean
thinking thered be hidden secret goodies
(There were not)
You actually managed to play Light Awaits before? I'm so sad I couldn't get the chance to play the Old Beta as an Android player 
I remember I kept going into the pit under the aviary
the pit that brought you back to the starting shores 
Nastymold? More like 🔥 nastyOLD sky player🔥
I just played the new intro and Isle of Dawn as new player — Start of Prairie and I love it 
I love how the Pointing spirit is kinda a part of tutorial too, with which I mean after getting his hairstyle he POINTS AT A CLOSET AND THE GAME IS LIKE “GO CHANGE, KID” 
Overall I found it very enjoyable and things are more clear now, also I felt like a very epic moff 
(Im kidding ur great nasty even if your skykid probably has joint pain)
Does Nastymold have any videos of their gameplay of the Old Beta?
I did not record back then 
Also when I first started playing Sky, Prairie’s entrance wasn’t sympathetic to me as it is now, I remember I tried to avoid going there but then gave up after a while 
I've been trying to play beta to see all these changes in person, but it keeps crashing on me 😭 it's probably not a bug tho, just my phone nearing the end of its days
I decided to before the game released because I couldn’t find any guides in the game
Omg i avoided going into prairie tooooo i just wanted to hang in isle...only when i found out i couldnt fly backwards into the isle temple did i accept my fate 
Time flies by really fast, especially if you're a Beta player
My beginner experience was literally me just. Pushing forward through the whole game. I caught on to some things quicker than others..
just consuming a well-made meal of spirit lore at last
nasty your guides are so useful!! I looked for guides after I failed terribly in Eden as a moth and was like... ok maybe I do need help to figure out what I need to do
I didn’t want to leave isle until i found all the secret goodies (aka winged light) since i wasnt sure i could get back into isle
I was able to finish Eden in Live during the last 2 weeks of the Season of Enchantment
Me trying to keep track of timelines and whats not a spoiler for content is like 
Tara does, though.
When I started, we still had the old Isle tutorial where a bird led you to Isle Elder and you got your wings from him.
I kinda picked up stuff quicklu in my moth days... But I was confused about the game's goal, and I ended up dropping Sky since device issues... Lack of space and all the other devices didn't reach the minimal requirement for a smooth experience
Yeah tara has lots of old beta content and she always describes what every area was for in great detail 
We started at pretty much the same time I think!
Realizing I probably would never be able to play that game again, I spoiled myself on the game's ending :')
Shiracheshire also has albums of old beta sky/light awaits pinned in #lore-discussion-spoilers if you havent seen! Theyre really good chronicles of all the changes that happened
But I ended up playing the game again, back in August last year
It must have been nostalgic for old beta players like Nasty and Tara to be able to see Sky turn into what it is now
I'm so curious now... I'll need to look for those old beta videos! I found sky during sanctuary so there's so much I don't know (even if I've looked at videos of past seasons lol)
It is indeed. We’ve come a long way since those early days. 
Ok I go off and work on one final video before sleep
rip to my body! Goodnight everyone
Tara has some vids
One thing that was a pain in my moff days was the flight controls it took me longgg before i learned to toggle the flight modes. 
im joking, but sometimes i envision them opening a super buggy beta build like the gif of that guy holding pizza walking into a burning apartment 
One thing i miss about being a global release player is the feeling of like...everyone around you was a new player too. Seeing your first 6 wedge cape was exciting because not many people had a cape that high level! Much less a colored cape
S N E E P 
Don't forget the new batch of beta testers who've come to report possible bugs and crashes that could happen both in the new Beta and in Live
Oksy I took some time off and did some thinking, I like the new isle elder cutscene it’s gorgeous and I love the bigger emphasis on Eden here and the fact that the prologue is readily available anytime I want to see it
And I really like the entrance to daylight actually has a path, I was lost there before
Wait, did the Isle Elder Cutscene really change? I thought it was just the constellations after the cutscene that changed- 
I will still miss the original prologue’s mystery though, the fire crackling was pretty gorgeous ;-; and shiver just went up my spine when I heard that the murals were on an island at home omggg that’s soo cool
Reaching 9 was momentous for me. I stayed that way a long time even after 10th and 11th were available.
Yeah the actual Elder cutscene didn’t change, just the constellation cutscene. Now all constellations show up :3
The fabled 9 wing! That was the top goal for so so long, definitely a proud milestone whenever anyone reached it 
The elder cutscene has a sequence added to show you Eden castle and once that sequence is gone, there’s a huge amount of focus and reordering of the camera angles to put that castle in the center background... I think the new cutscene makes the castle and not the elder the center of attention
I found myself staring at the castle the whole time
I am friends (well, “friends” as in they are in my constellation) with Tara. I wonder how many of my old beta friends are now here, but I just don’t know it.
Should a progress reset happen in Beta in the future, I just want to say thanks to my Beta friends who supported me and made me the person I am now 
One thing i dont miss about early global release days (and early beta too i think?) is the old version of carryball
it was so much slower, stickier, and harder to move than it is now. Dismiss spirit was a nightmare to my moth self 
Ok, I think this is first time where I REALLY want to join beta to see... But I don't think my schedule is open for a Second Sky
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i wish there was a way to manually shuffle or look for friends in the constellation... I have so many friends I haven't seen in months!
Looking back at how old sky was, to what we have now is nostalgic for anyone I reckon. It’s just fun to see. We went from aviary, to shared spaces in a treehouse 
I miss the aviary though
TGC have plans to revive the "spirit" of the Old Beta. They started doing that with the Colliseum.
Fun fact-there is a tiny piece of aviary thats in the game now, added during assembly season 
they never stated they had plans for that though, no?
There is...? 
Spill the beans 
the aviary window in a treehouse is a nice touch! the model fits very nicely there
Yes, the grass from Aviary 
Where 
And by tiny i do mean tiny-in the third treehouse before the temple, theres a windowframe set into the wood. Its an old aviary window!
I’ll have to go look later 👁️
:V i knew i saw it somewhere 
Now you can stand on it or touch it and say that youve been to aviary 
Seeing that they revived the spirit of the Old Beta colliseum, it's highly possible that they will revive the Old Beta spirit of Sky
I never even bothered to get the 11th wing , right now I’m reborn in beta with 8 wedges (75 wings ) that’s more then enough , pick some lights along the way and I’ve got 9 wedges.
Pines I can’t say that 😔
The coliseum was redone to accomodate for the dreams season cutscenes, and to get spruced up with a facelift so to speak 
Youve been to the real thing you dont count 
While coliseum has vibes of how it looked before global release. I wouldn’t say it revived anything. Aside from the team banners. The rest is completely new.
Shut :v 
the old coliseum with the wl on the stairs is still in the game as well! when you slide down from either of the races that's the model you see
it's inaccessible though, warp zones all around
oh really! Good eye-nice to know its still around in some form. Maybe it has spiritual skykids bonking off the pillars trying to light the candle cake haha
The OOB hides a great many things 
It’s kind of sad that I vaguely remember what the old coliseum looked like ... doesn;t help that I always skipped valley haha
It was Very Orange, had a central disc that came up out of the clouds with pillars surrounding it in the clouds, and then the seats. There was nothing on the stadium seats though besides cheer spirit off to the side and a WL. And a single blue butterfly!
It was an art form to light the cake on the pillar before the toggle got added to cloudy areas 
My trick is whenever something is changing an old zone to something new in beta I go to live and snap a bunch of photos and videos of the area for keepsake. 
I remember I always thought the old coliseum (pre global) was so annoying. Because it would tally up your lights collected. And it was essentially red vs blue. And it took so long each time. 
The old colliseum platform used to be floating in the clouds
Hi harbin
Old coliseum was also a pain to connect with friends with. If you joined a friend in the area youd likely server split pretty quick 
Hello

Yeah! I’m so glad it’s fixed now. Much appreciated 
Oh yea this part i very accurately remember

I actually really miss the old coliseum, I loved the clouds area and the extra challenge at the end of who lands on the disc in the middle first 
The new colliseum still has that same team blue vs team red feeling
It has the banners. That’s it. To me at least it’s not the same
It is just aesthetic to me
Shira has some pictures of the old old Old races where your skykid would actually be dyed red or blue 
I'm really excited to see what these new shared spaces will be.
Between the mention of props and coming together with friends its combining two of my favourite things. 
And the banners look different from then, also. As much as I found the tallying annoying I do kinda miss the actual system. Made it more fun to race
Omg yes the contstant server splits
and befor that the race not getting activated for some friends if you did it in a group.
The game crashes though when I try to remove things from my space
another fun new thing! even if you haven't relived pointing candlemaker the new tutorial just gives them to you when you reach prairie 
Oh really? What are your two favourite things? Chimes in the tune of Favourite Things.... Oh wait he just said it. 😳
I do wonder. Can we do race with hammock. SLIDING down with hammock all the way 
One thing to add to my list of things to try. I’d need a friends help tho 
Is there still anyway to sit on a swing with the first sitting position?
I know you can still do the second sit pose+lay down, but is it still possible to do first sit with whatever your stance is?
Wait, I didn't think it was implemented yet last I heard? Thought we were waiting for the next version. 
it's there harbin 
When will the next update come? I can't wait for the game crashes to be fixed 
Okay then how do you do it without my feet dangling still
Why have I not been made aware of this?
Clearly I must spend more time absorbing beta knowledge. 
I have lots of favourite things but yes those are two of them! 
Shared spaces also makes you have really low FPS when you share your space 
Sorry no idea. Unless a Dev has told us when we can next expect an update there's no way to know.
Hope the crashes get fixed! 🛠️
It is painful. Even on 60 FPS option. Throws that right out the window 
Hmm, I'll be interested to see how my device goes then. It never had any problems with the hot springs so this will be sure to put it through its paces. 
cries in 30fps Sky even if device can handle 60fps on other games 

Hi Velo! 
hi velo
I heard there was a crusty fossil party going on here
Not with me around but yes there was 

There might be some in the shared spaces I'm still yet to explore 
Yay! 

Uwu
Wait I also wasn’t aware shared spaces is available already 
I'm just gonna... 
It is
still kinda bug cause my screen freezes
Time to search for it I guess 
I, as someone who started in Enchantment, feel like a very strange case where nobody can decide what to refer to me as
you're already an adult
Enchantment moths considered old?
Wait shared spaces are actually In game rn??
welcome to Sky beta, where in two seasons you become an adult
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Wheremst 
check treehouse 
A home away from home..... VOIIIIIiI!!!!!!!!
🏃
how can i build my shared space when it keep crashing b4 i save 
Question for shared space: are we allowed to put available items if we didn't bought them from the assembly guide? I've all of them, just curious
nope, you have to buy them to use them in your space
Voi is the beta shepherd, change my mind
guys its chibi fall or glitch will no longer available in beta?
It’s currently just a bug they are trying to solve
You can do chibi fall but mostly of the time your game crash
you know i just realized
were getting seasons based on childhood
No. Clearly not. Not me 
So I’m still trying to grasp this new concept, can you only enter your shared space in building mode?
It’s really a childhood season lol the shared space reminds me those interior decorating games which i played on the website
you can also share your space with others in your server if you return to the statue after building!
Ohhh!! I think my server was already full with other furniture lmao so I didn’t even think about that. Going right back then 
Does it resets every time you login?
if you save your space then no, you'll have yo share it again though
Ohhh nice nice 
Hello 👋 can someone explain to me what a shared space is ?
Checkout in main treehouse
I haven't been on the beta in almost two days (been a bit busy), but do you mean that they implemented the shared space feature? I don't see a beta update so I'm confused.
Good afternoon, can anyone tell me how to get the Season Pass for the new season? A few hours ago he was in the store, but was banned, and now he is not in the store either. But I have two gift passes from last season, for some reason in the form of a fox, can I exchange them with friends?
I’ve recorded the whole Isle and some of Prairie as new player, for anyone who wants to see: #beta-screenshots-videos message
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Yea it appeared without any new patch
As far as I know, the passes are bugged and trying to buy them results in a crash.
Friends who you gift passes to can’t accept the pass either 
Thank you
You’re welcome 
I was hoping to see what the pendant accessory looked like ... Quelle horreur....
why are shared spaces reminding me of Mario Maker
Wait, yall talking about Shared Spaces while I'm still trying to understand what that is
Can someone explain pls
Hey I heard someone talking in wishlist and ideas, that you'll no longer be able to go OOB anymore (no matter if you use Chibi Glitch, Rocket/Spiral or walk through unstable walls). Is this true?
Or is it just a bug?
Game crashes if you try which is not intentional for sure. Piggy spiral is safe for the upper person lower one crashes tho.
Oh okay, thank you Pakka!
Go to the main tree house and meditate near the fallen tree
/hey any pic for shared space?
Alright, will do so!
Many in #beta-screenshots-videos
I don't even have the option to pre-order, my shop is empty. Am I doing something wrong
BHAAAAAAAA
I went to the Shared Spaces, built a bit, laid down on the hammock and pressed the X on it and crashed lol
I also don't have the option to buy the AP either
They also happen for me as well. I guess we'll just have to wait for a new update to fix the crashes from Shared spaces and AP pre-order
looking the fact that they decided to polish isle like that (to be more 'interactive' with the players), does that mean we could wait for the same kind of polish for other realms as well? 
Can't wait to finally see how the next Season gotta be 
And if the bugs get all fixed next patch updates. Sky Beta is so buggy now in this version, sometimes my game just randomly crashes
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I didn't even ask about Beta, Skybot...
Sky Beta sure is buggy. Let's hope a new update would fix our problems
shared space... so we can build the given space like how we decide it? 
cue minecraft bgm
It is very buggy tho, so beware
i havent even visited forest temple yet 
With the changes in isle, i’m just sad that one of the most soundtracks, “painting” just poofed in the game, the good news is we have a soundtrack album
Isle got changed?
The duck
wait isnt painting still can be heard in the new cutscene?
Sure, censor me Autocorrect -_-
Just tested the new poco f3 on beta and its
very nice
We might also see soundtrack from the Old Beta when the Vol.2 & Vol.3 of the Sky Albums are out and ready
I’m looking forward to hearing them! Especially the propechy caves
Plus the other seasonal soundtrack that weren't included in the Vol.1 of the Sky Soundtrack
Designing shared place for like 30 min and the game crash without saving 
Luckily mine saved without crashing. I think it's a bit restricting of a space to design personally, and I could bet someone can really flex by putting down the bonfire in a shared space
My social space is only a way for me to enter my mind. If I share, it crashes me too. I guess that’s because my decoration taste vary from others jk

I agree that the area is quite small. If you accidentally go inside treehouse or slip off from the edge, you go poof
I was kind of expecting something like a separate room and / or outdoor area rather than a little price of the treehouse
Will Shard Spaces be available on other maps?
We can always leave a suggestion on that at #beta-feedback 
I honestly really like the idea of a private corner when you want that and it can became a social thing when you are in a mood for that too. Hope it will get added to other areas too
I can finally retire my poco f1 to poco f2 pro
while dad grabs the poco f3
Nice! Hopefully you'll get a better performance increase in Sky!
Bhaa.....tgc what the hell, making me cry like that with the new Isle changes
Idk if the video in the ss of beta was recorded on android or ios, hopefully the quality stays almost the same
You can tell they're really trying to polish this for the switch release. Especially the intro to get new players into it
Lots of my friends said the game was confusing, so I'm really happy with these changes, it slaps you more in the face regarding what you really need to do
shared space editing suite is nice for practicing instruments, absolutely nobody can disturb you 
I mean, light awaits had an NPC that really let you know how to play, so this is nice, but should come with a cutscene skip or a one time tutorial
I think One time tutorial is a bit sad, maybe some of the new players might want to expirience that tutorial once again once they're butterflies
As someone who joined in September, played the game till eden and then got hard locked (game crashing assoon as it opened but) out of the game until begin of Prophecy, I would've liked a replay tutorial button
Then maybe an optional button at the start of isle to begin the tutorial
most of the new player experience stuff that was added is shown only once for a new player who joins, I'm glad the more lore heavy cutscene stuff is now accessible for everyone in game
Are we able to enjoy the privacy of our own space. I could not get out of decorate mode while in the space. I don't know if it's intentional. Or are we only able to decorate and then share?
wait is shared spaces available 
Yep, go to the treehouse and look at the right side, there's a small staircase with a meditation stone on top (main treehouse)
in shared space editing mode if you go outside the glittery border you can access emote and settings menu and you can use your carried prop (like an instrument) - don't go too far though as I'll remove you from editing mode
So the decorating mode is private if you click on the little icon over the shrine you can share it and make it public if nobody else has an active sharing at the same time.
And also what Voi said.
Thanks both of you. I did play piano just outside border. I would love to see a "close decorate mode" button so i can play in private in my space.
I am also missing such a feature tbh
i just logged into beta and im crying they have a pride beanie 😭
this is life this is greatness
It's still in development so might come. I just wondered if it was present and working for some. Definitely putting it in feedback.
just remembered i didnt finish all the assembly quests can beta magically turn into live rn 
Good idea, I’ll also give feedback on it!
Eden rocks made more frequent?
I didn’t notice it felt the same for me today.
Shared space is in active development and the devs are looking forward to our feedback, so if u have any ideas and thoughts on how to improve it after trying it out don't forget to leave it at #beta-feedback 
Also, the color grading of eden is more dark now ?
Maybe? You can always compare it to live later. What I noticed:
- you turn into a statue now when u die
- if you were in there before and saved statues, those stay on the field with a yellowish glow instead of dissapearing like they used to.
Okkk :)
I went to set up my tree house in the shared space, my game crashed and closed ༎ ຶ ‿ ༎ ຶ
Ia the shared spaces working??? V
Yes, go to the main tree house and meditate at the shrine near the fallen tree
Yes 😊
How long will the rainbow spirit stay in beta?
If I remember correctly a day left for the event in beta unless it gets extended
Oh so tragic then I dont have the time to get 20 hearts 😭
I dislike how the shared spaces still have camera auto-adjustment
Yes, I’m so glad that they are thinking about making these things relivable for all players. Cuz it’s really fun to go back to review some of the stories/lore. During my moth time it was so confusing and such a blur for me I had no memory of what the tutorial looked like.
Same i was way to focused on finding anything hidden in the level or just orientate myself i had zero memory about the cutscene and what did it say or what was the story. I was a moth with tunnel vision.
There was a lot to take in. But story-wise there is so much to discover and interpret that it would be a pity if some of them are only one-time experience for moth account and non-relivable
Sometimes I wish I had that perspective of the game.
I was more focused on the realm too. I didn’t directly go to the point I was shown to. I wandered around in isle and prairie for the whole day
so it's nice to be able to watch them when you want to
I was never much into lore, but there sure is a lot interesting things going on in that. Even after a year of playing I still find about things I don’t know (lore-wise), which is really exciting and refreshing!
Having been part of beta from very early on, it has always been a work in progress that never seemed finish. So there wasn't really any opportunity to be confused, in a way. Or rather, one was perpetually confused.
I do feel that parts of the underlying themes were lost when the first Isle tutorial was replaced, though.
I also would like to salute the old radar call which showed players around you. And instead of going to Temple I went to stars I saw when I honked. It was a pretty good one to spend time on tbh 
if you play through all of isle you see that nothing is lost; some things are just moved around
Beth, I agree so much. It just really killed part of the whole concept of Sky for me.
I still remember my first words when reaching isle for the first time
"this is a big desert"
Ye I really miss that too. I followed people a little bit and explore different unknown places thanks to that
and that’s how I discovered Ark, when I had absolutely no idea what a season is. it was really beautiful experience for moth me.
I still remember the exact date I started playing
November 21, 2020
the shared spaces are so awesoooooooooome
I don't remember what I did during my moth days, but there's thousands of in game screenshots of a moth in my laptop. I was probably too busy taking pictures to actually focus on the game's story www
Was there a reason given for why radar honk was removed?
If so I probably forgot about it, but I totally agree with you all and miss it a lot
Nowadays, I sometimes hang around in places I know where people tend to need help, but it's just not the same.
I have various images of my progression through the game in the screenshots. Brown cape moth, yellow cape moth, yellow cape with Welcome's pants, etc.
Especially when you are moth you are just so lost, so having the radar call make you feel less so, and give you some kind of random anchor without the need to keep attached to it. Gives you the freedom to explore too, so perfect
I’m just sad that it’s gone now.
I didn't take any screenshots before completing my first eden run after weeks of playing in live, I just ran around the realms in awe
in beta I documented my moth days a lot better
Hmm... It seems Sky is getting a bit revamped with these new updates... Its pretty cool 
Hmm, I wonder if the other Elder cutscenes now show the other constellations afterwards like Isle. Has anyone checked? 
I think I lost a lot of early beta photos when changing phone at some point.
brb gonna go make a new moth
Ahh the radar honk. Thats one feature i will forever miss.
it was way more clear who needed help and who was just honking for friends and it was nice to know you arent alone in the level.
I'm a bit confused, what else was added/removed?
I didn't know how to take screenshots because I declined the access prompt to save stuff on my phone
but I found what it was for after playing for some time
To have radar honk return... I can always dream 
Radar honk?
The radar honk allowed you to see other players
when u used to honk u can see everyone in the server, this was removed way back during enchantment-sanctuary era
Ah
we used to be able to honk to see where people were, even if they were strangers,, it was removed but now its so much easier to troll with it gone
You used to be able to see all players present in your instance when you honk. And you could follow them too with the arrow.
AH that, following strangers seemed weird
They could have just removed the follow feature, instead of the whole radar one.
in this build others honking in the distance looks weird, there's no diamond symbol but only the small honk circle 
Yikes.
It helpful when you are moth who don’t have enough flaps and trying to fly on a chat table placed in air tho 
/I agree with the follow feature being removed, and I'm pretty glad about it too
I would get anxious if I go cr alone with valley hair

It wasn’t back then, guess because we were used to it? It was a great way to save energy and honestly i never had any insulting or weird experience with it. Collaboration to get things done or reach places tho i had way more of that with the follow.
So it was removed because people didn’t like the follow feature? Huh, I was never bothered by that
Thanks to radar honk I had an idea where to explore to find spirits and candles. And that way people found me and helped too. I will forever miss it. If it wasn't for the help I got from radar honk, id probably quit the game on first day. That was the thing that got me going and keep me interested
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
Can't really say much since I only started playing in december
It was removed because of trolling or griefing, just like table stuff etc.
Some are bothered with people following them in Valley races I think.
being able to see and follow other childs of light made it feel like we're all connected somehow even without being friends
Ahh I see, thanks you two 
And I agree with Voi

sometimes theres a lot of back feedback and data and players we dont know, so maybe after long consideration they decide to remove it
Now you can see all your friends in your server without asking

You get a merge with a friend who you haven't spoken to in ages and it makes things awkward
I have a 50:50 opinion with the follow thing, since i had gotten stalked one or two times by strangers constantly spamming the follow button. Trolling, griefing and so on
But I do miss radar honk cause I keep catching myself glitching into certain areas, only to glitch out and see other players waiting while I hit towards the next level transition. Lots of inbetween helping potential missed 
Also I remembered it’s really nice to be able to follow when we struggled to get to the underground mushrooms during enchantment. I know it’s not a intended feature, but it took so much effort and collaboration that it really brought people together and make us help each other out. Moth me made quite a few friends through that. Some of us stayed and chatted a bit after collecting the mushrooms and then we befriended one another. It felt so nice and heartwarming
and some people with tables would also deliberately stay after they got the mushrooms just to help others out.
If I'm really annoyed by people I block them. So making it possible to block grey people would solve the problem in my opinion. Deleting radar wasnt the best option
And my game froze.
Why did they make it so hard to light friends’ stars? The button is tiny now.
Imagine, if you block a grey player, you would become invisible from the blocked player 
What's the new chaos about 
Free invisible spell 
Most likely there were. We just experienced the positive side of it and the help it provided made our moth days easier. Also the feature as others said made a lot of us feel closer to each other even if we werent friends. Which of course doesn’t make any negative experience nonexistent, its just our perspective. 
Am I the only one who thinks that sky is changing way too fast
I actually think I would like that 
What spells

It was a reply to Sal's message

It could possibly be less harsh for both parties now I think about it. Cuz the conscious knowing that someone has blocked you is the most harsh thing I’ve experienced in Sky so far. So it’s better for me (if someone’s gonna block me) to be blocked and not know at all.
That’s what I was thinking too. I’d rather not see the person anymore immediately and have it out of my mind right away.
Urgh, was trying out the shared space thing, which in itself isn't working very well, when the app crashed.
I think I don't have the patience for this today.
Omg, seems like I’m the only one who hasn’t crashed at shared spaces yet 
It hurt many ppl knowing someone who blocked them is there, plus if you are a little more observant its easy to tell if its a grey or someone who blocked you, last time I checked if you had warp you could temporarily warp to them too in the same server.
The game is constantly crashing anyways
me and voi took turns crashing in Forest for several minutes non stop yesterday that we eventually gave up doing cr in Forest 🤣
Tapping on the X crashes us too now not just switch
(on the furnitures)
Is it the slow step that is causing it all?
I crashed at least 8 times in shared space today (2 of them out of the attempt to chibi fall tho)
I was able to not crash when I removed a table but I crashed when I tried to share my space 
YES I REMEMBER LOL ppl tryna cut ahead in the valley race by following me
removing placed props has been a bit unstable so far, my efforts to break out of the editing space for good continue 
I think its not just slow step but moving through objects? Whenever voi or emma landed with open wing mode in vault yesterday most of us crashed, chibi step crash, piggy spiral crashes the bottom person, plus the random crashes, ap crash, removing furniture with X button crash
follow boosting off of strangers must've been the meta back then 
Also I think when we applied a new spell or when a spell ended it crashed some of us too.
"you cannot contain me forever" - Voi
- Hitting certain walls crash
I'm going to build a shared space that is soo cozy 
You have one chance
(until they fix the removal crash)
Good luck, soldier. 
Try not to fly away or fall somewhere 
It didn't crash for me so i'll try

I crashed twice already-
I think the crash landing crash and other crashes with quick movements are rooted in how the game updates your position when you're being dragged so it places you momentarily inside some mesh or surface which is a killer in this build 
Hmm maybe 👀 it’s definitely more frequent in areas with walls and where you slide a lot.
Forest is THE killer realm 
It crashed
i cannot edit the mess that i made first

Guys.. I invite you guys to my shared space..
Also the piggy release is just quite weird now. If you release the piggy, your camera and whereabouts are changed into the bottom players view. I think that messes the communication and causes spiral crash when you grab hands
shows mound
Forest: Okay we got a new feature come test it out
Also forest: crash
Is it still crashing? For pre order i mean
Okay thank you
We can't preorder now lmao
Since shared space is in my mind i'm not surprised it's crashing
rocket stop has a weird moment as well, could be tied to the position update thing
Oh yeah, I mentioned earlier if anyone checked the other Elder cutscenes for changes. There was a subtle change in Isle's. The stone shrine of Isle originally had glowing blue eyes which turn yellow after the cutscene. Now, there's no light at all, and looks as if the shrine statue of Isle Elder has close eyes, and is opened after the cutscene
At least you can jump through walls now easily 
tell us 
That’s how I enter 4 player door in vault first floor now 
I mean, you just jump off the piggy and you are at the other side of the wall
it doesn't push you back anymore? sweet 
The jump is too big. If you try you’ll see what I mean 
Wish i was this good in long jumping back in high school. There is a lot to learn from my skykid
My sky kid is very good with kicks as well
I have a question 😔
When my friend carries me, I cannot go down. I tried all directions. The cancellation mark does not come on my head .. Not only in the beta version, also in the other version .. Is this a problem for me only?
Happens sometimes with me too. Best to file a bug report in #beta-bugs-android or #report-a-live-bug
Sometimes the icon doesn’t show up. That’s probably a bug but you can use “sit” emote from menu to detach from your friend
Ok thank u ♥️
is there any info of when the days of rainbow come to live?
Sometime June 2021 (TBA), best to keep an eye out here #news 
It just hit me... In regards to the new death sequence in Eden where you now turn into a statue.
When you turn into a statue, at first glance, it implies that all the other kids we save are our friends who died like we did, saving others and thus, a cycle.
But what if that's not the case? When you go back to Eden now, the statues you already saved has a golden glow through their backs, ready to break out, while the ones you didn't have a blue glow.
Guess what? When we die, our statues DON'T get the blue glow at all. It's gold, meaning that we could break out at any time and we don't need saving like the rest did.
Our skids are strong-

i just noticed this but why is the thatgamecompany intro (when you open the game) different on android
Is it? I play on android and occasionally on iPhone, I don't notice a difference... But thats on Live
What 
Well, for my android phone, its slightly slow tho
I think that's just the loading sequence for my device
It cuts off for me, I'm on android
Maybe depends on the device? I dont recall that happening to me.
But then again, I dont really pay much attention to the TGC intro sequence of the game
in live i just spam honk, move controls then icon apoears
Hmmmmm
Nice eyes you got there, btw. Perhaps golden glow means that the spirit inside the statue already free? But then does that mean that our wl replace the spirit so it can to back to the orbit, while the wl stay in their stone bodies to prevent it got shattered?
Statues that we havent saved have blue glows, because the spirits is still trapped inside the statue. Perhaps they could actually just go to the orbit, leaving their stone body. But they didnt want to?
We have those two statues that didnt have any glows in them, that will immediately shattered when we got near them. Perhaps the spirits didnt want to leave their stone body because they didnt want their body to get shattered...?
I thought this was lore chat for a second—
(Can't wait to discuss all this in live !)
Though, I often see blue as something correlated to loss. They glow blue cause well, they're lacking light in some way
I mean it could be that our wl give them the capes, but if those statues were also a fellow skykids... 
The WL seems to belong to the Fallen, suggested by the Point of No Return's description, tho that could change with the new lore presented in Isle...
Are we just special?
Maybe it's because we're the Prince-?
Inb4 winged light is our past lives
Also we do seem to get out on our own when we die even without the statue death sequence
In Live I mean
New update showing us that those statues that already saved didnt get destroyed, instead they stay intact with golden glow, right?
Yeah maybe our wl give the spirit the capes and also keeping their stone body stay in shape
Ah yes, this one line confuse me a lot 
Hmm, I wonder if they're gonna revamp anything in Eden like they did in Isle.
Lots of moths get confused there too afterall. And its the center of lore and also kinda the end point of our journey
Like have that mysterious being who talked to us in Isle also talk to us in Eden again and sort of hint what we do next
Tho, Eden may be a little disconnected from the Light, soo...
Indeee
But eden is the only place that have the light beam...
So in some way eden is still connected to the light
if you do an oob, you can see a giant yellow light stick going through the lounds into eden
It would be nice if the questgiver would join us in the shared space. Even if there would be no one,questgiver can be there with you
I feel like it kinda covers the idea nowadays about saving or reaching the light. With he intro being the birth (or rebirth) of a moth, and now the update having the Skykid becoming a statue, after the first rebirth, there just isnt really... A point? Lore and stroy wise. You're just sacrificing yourself into a statue so you could come back and free other statues, so it's just kind of a loop that thematically doesn't contribute to you saving any more spirits or honoring the spirits as their descendants when you're just looking the same ending that they suffered
no but you lived so thats different
Well we live just to do it all again
Money
sus

I mean the elders basically tell us that we have to perish to learn their hairstyles.
Ya live and die all for that bling
wait yo they aren't wigs? i thought they just put on wigs that magically stick to them unless in the outfit booth
Lol could you imagine a growing collection of wigs on a shelf that the Skykid is just browsing and considering for hours. And we have to pay to walk outta there without one 
As a moff who was crying herself in Eden, and clueless as to what I was supposed to do, PLEASE, we kindly need this <3
i just got mad that i died and died anyways
I went to Eden with zero spoiler. I saw icons to give light and I thought i was supposed to give lights to all statues before I die out. And I thought I failed the mission. I could have used some spoilers back then to not feel sorry afterwards 
maybe some text while going through the corridor
Meanwhile, there's me who really wished I did not see spoilers before going to Eden. I never got the true moff experience, sadly

||don't worry, i accidentally saw a datamine for this season so i feel you||
But I still felt this strong sense of desperation as I try to get to all of the statues
I somehow did
I remember not knowing what to do so bad, so after I came back to sky near Prophecy (was hard locked cus of bug), I hid behind a wall and searched up a tutorial lol I only watched until the hug the kiddo thing, then everything was moff expirience
Though I should say this misunderstanding motivated me to go to Eden more to get more statues each time 
At least I knew I was supposed to give "light" to the statues, and then I was crying because my levels were going down BAHAHAHA
I really like beta Eden experience. You never know what might happen and it always finds a way to surprise you with more fun
death loop joined the chat
did you guys notice that Isle has a new intro completely to new moths?
If you're talking about hacked Sky content, please don't discuss it here and just report the video to TGC 

I can Not find the clothes from Little Prince
Forgot to mention, if people really want some changes in Eden like how there was for Isle that explains things, its best to voice your opinions at #beta-feedback! (And #wishlist-and-ideas-archived too)
Noooo 
The are not in the game yet
bruh... talking about hacks and hackers is against the rules @somber trellis
The person you just mentioned is a hacker and should not be talked about here
Really 👀
Yes
No worries. 
The season has not begun beta testing yet, the only new stuff is the shared spaces in the tree house and the Isle changes and other bug fixes and stuff. The only thing related to the upcoming season that can be seen legitimately in the game is the season symbol on the gift pass and the adventure pass in the shop (that causes game to crash when clicking)
Yes, I see
All other is data mined
have they changed the first cutscene in isle?
I Noticed they took down the pass from iap.
I hope it's gonna be back soon
(I know it will definitely come back, but i want it asap lmao)
Remember beta is for testing not early access
He/she/they never says it's to get it in early access
I mean
People have every right to be excited for the new season content in beta. It's always fun to see.
People ALWAYS gush about the cosmetics . Even in the beta stages..
We can't help for pic requests in beta and please don't ask again in the future
( Alex's message about it : #beta-screenshots-videos message )
Oh sorry
You can search on your own in #beta-screenshots-videos if you like though, I think some people probably posted it
Shared space would be chaos in live version. Imagine 8 people trying to share their space 
looking forward to it as a meme maker
endless possibilities for filming
I'm not really sure how the shared spaces thing is supposed to work, I made one but then it said can't share yet, and when I exited back nothing that I put was there
So IDK if it's a bug or if I did it wrong lol
you can make pretty much any set you want but I haven’t completed the quests so dunno
Shared space is not working well with most players yet. Probably we get more things working with next update
I hope not
Chibi fall not working is probably a bug that the devs are looking into. Going out of bounds by any means seems to be causing a lot of people to crash right now
as said, they understand and appreciate lots of people enjoy those bugs just to say
Also good to check this message: #beta-discussion message
This message should be pinned 
Sorry 
13/16 available, so 3 props are missing. I guess they are normal table, bonfire and what else? 😳
Feast Table? 
Feast Table?
@faint comet there is already
I thought the last one is a regular table 
Yeh I did mention "normal table" 🥺
I can't think of anything else that would be missing besides the regular table and the bonfire. Maybe 16 items is just the overall limit they set, since there will probably be more prop items in the future
Perhaps it's for the new season 🤔 I can't think of anything off the top of my head either
isn't the 16 just max amount of props
There's always one missing just to mess with those completionists. 
Oooh, I know now, maybe ||Rainbow bonfire|| 
I think there should be a timelimit for the shares, so that a new person can share their own space
I do think 16 is a nice number for the amount of props most people have tho.
I've also yet to complete my area because beta crashes, but it's all good :stickerOK:
There is one, there's a candle at the shrine just like there are at chat benches
Ohhhh!!
time for criticism
||assembly function-less props are still redundant ||
So far for me, the new cave cut scenes haven’t worked out well anytime there was another player merging into my server and they lit the cut scenes ahead of me... My cut scenes end up getting skipped sighhh
so the props you can use in shared spaces are the props you own?
pinwheel?
"what is your purpose"
"decorative"
"and???"
"and I can be placed in the shared spaces"
only you can't own it
No I don't think it's pinwheel, unless they make that into a permanent item that you can carry. I have pinwheel spells and it didn't show as an option to be placed
maybe new season is planned to have another prop perhaps?
i would guess 16 is just an arbitrary limit
I think 16 is probably just the arbitrary limit they decided on for now, since it would be too much to allow unlimited amount of items there. Eventually we will have more than 16 props as they keep adding new seasons and new special limited events
Think of it like how the requirement for the 12th cape star is 200 winged lights even though that's not possible right now. 16 could be the max even if there aren't 16 prop items yet, because eventually there will be
ooo I see I see
Okay so I finally figured out the bug for the crash that I’ve been seeing, someone confirm for me
Place your items in your shared space in some order (item a, b, c) and try to remove them in the order b, a ,c your space will crash
Now try to remove them in order c,b, a and it won’t
sounds like they're using a stack 
Uh anyone else’s game froze when someone opens the two player door in vault?
devs:
players: 
So your telling me...
I have to remember what order i placed them in to not cause crashing
Well, it's probably a bug but knowing what's causing the crash can help TGC figure out how to fix it

A bug report with more specific steps to replicate the crash will be more helpful than the "this crashes when prop b is removed" since the former narrows down what's going on
what are the changes to isle?
look in #beta-screenshots-videos
The shared spaces are in assembly main treehouse, there's screenshots shared in the beta chat too!
The Isle changes are mainly that they updated the cave area when you first enter and changed some of the cutscenes, to help encourage new players to keep going forward instead of people just quitting because they don't understand what to do
For now you get a small spot to place any props you own (tables, assembly props) and share them with others for a limited time
I was able to remove them without order and I didn’t crash and other times I crashed randomly. I don’t see a pattern in my experience
Whelp. Time to ATTEMPT to test shared spaces.. hoping the beta gods don't crash me.
Good luck 
There's changes to the opening cutscene and a few changes in the terrain
Spoiler alert. I crashed
Same
Interesting 🤔 I placed down a bookshelf, a fire pot, and a pillow
And tried to remove the bookshelf first — crash...
the firepot first —- crash
The pillow first — no crash
Yo anybody willing to test something? I keep crashing when trying to chibi fall for the two player door in vault. Kind of want to know if anybody else is experiencing it too?
Literally everyone. Chibi fall is cursed in this build. 
Ahh okay thanks!
Most oobing and clipping walls is causing crashes right now
Yeah just before typing that message I was able to remove 12 props without any order. But then again I crash even when placing one or removing the next try. I crash when I try to share sometimes too. It’s weird with me so far 
The only oob that I’ve found that works still works is flying through the clouds to get underground in the Valley entrance
Also has anyone else been crashing as soon as they go to see the Treehouse?
I crashed on my way to the entrance does that count
Sure 
I guess the whole thing’s buggy
Nothing to do but wait for a new build haha 😂 hopefully one that’s a bit stable
Nice thing about these crashes is they keep playing the music from the game on other apps
So relaxing to have the Vault theme while on typing in Discord
I hope we can see the rainy treehouse in next build. That change was the reason why I finished sixth quest. I already missed the rainy view 
Can people wear/own the "The Little Prince" pendant already?
Nope
It actually got removed, any attempt of getting it legitimately resulted in a game crash
Cool cool, thanks
It got removed? I can still see it in my shop tho 
Weird.. When I checked the shop on my phone nothing showed up
Same
Ohh wait hold up... it was showing up in my shop a while ago... now it’s not there anymore

Same for me, it showed up before but not anymore rn
I don't think it was supposed to be there.
Most likely tbh
Probably scheduling error
(e.g Earth Cape)
Hmm it could have been there on purpose.. I mean testing for shared spaces and isle changes was supposed to have started last week..
This build has generally been very buggy, so maybe it was one of those things that wasn’t included due to a bug
Yea, that is my favourite part of crashing lol
my third eye is telling me we wont get an update in the next 5 to 7 business days
It's been 30 days, Assembly has ended and beta still hasn't gotten an update
Well there is still stuff to test for assembly (shared space) and rainbow days
Hello!
The stars have aligned!
I have come to receive your feedback.
ooh hi :D
what would you like to receive feedback about dear totally not handsome krill?
Let's start with Shared Spaces!
Just got home from work , no time to test yet 😂
aww havent had chance to try that yet. i like the concept though!
Maybe add more space, make it bigger so we have more play room?
I don't understand it
Multiple levels of floor would be cool
ok
the first thing that came to my mind was those home renovation tv shows.
while it's fun but i believe it doesnt make the props less redundant. they still remain as ✨decoration✨
however i like the barrier like thing you put there. that was new and interesting
the number indicator by each prop icon is a bit confusing -- it's like the game's implying that we can place multiple copies of each prop rather than just one (and if we can do that, i haven't figured out how)
buy them again maybe?
I love shared spaces. I wish we could get out of build/decorate mode while we are in the space so we can enjoy the space privately also.
It feels.... very small. And with you technically being able to place 16 items... the small space becomes a mess quickly 
Oh, and when you share your space, FPS walks out the door on a vacation. It's kinda funny.
That aside though, it's a really fun concept, but i'd want it bigger and more interactive? As far as i know, the bookshelf is just an empty shelf, and all you do is stare at it at best. Would be cute if an interaction would allow you to skim through a few pages of a book :o
how can others visit your space btw
:I have,,, some ideas 👉👈
But mainly a question since I already sent feedback about that! Are there plans for more share spaces? Like different locations we get to decorate 
I think it’s a bit simple at the moment, doesn’t help that a lot of the props that I have still don’t really have any use cases. For example, the hexagon, I can share this space with friends but what do they do with it? I also can’t help but wonder if the only prop I have is a table, what added benefit does going to the trouble of creating a shared space have for me over just propping down the table at a location?
My friends and I hang out near the cosmetic shelves a lot because it allows us to easily switch between instruments... shared spaces doesn’t help us with this and we would probably still prefer camping out near home
How exactly does the shared space work? I’m not sure I understand completely 🤔
Wait is the shared space patched
what is it?
Srry haven't played beta for a week now
look at #beta-screenshots-videos :))
Okay thank you!!
I agree with some of the comments here stating that the space itself doesn’t make the props seem all that better, since the props that do have functionality can be placed any where in the world and achieve much the same effect. I.e placing down a chat table in valley at the location of my choice, vs placing down a chat table in a confined area for shared space. The props that don’t have a function, unfortunately still remain functionless in a shared space.
Hello, I still confuse about shared space. Is the shared space works like sharing your room with decoration and your friends can access it? If it's the case I hope there's a privilege setting that I can use to choose who can use my space.
I don't quite understand the purpose of this shared space. If I want to share a space with some friends, we would do that anywhere with the props we own collectively. Plus, there are still items from Assembly that are just decorative. Will they never have any use?
Probably it's for shared space maybe
It kinda works like roblox meet city.
I really only went into shared spaces for a few minutes. I was excited about the idea of getting to use all the props there until I figured out it only lets you use props you already own so there’s going to be a lot of people, especially newer players, who aren’t going to be able to really use the space at all.
I also thought the spaces would reveal some use for the props but it seems that use is still purely decoration? at least the space lets you put more than one thing down but you can’t place more than one of the same thing down still.
Hi! ☺️
I’ll give more comprehensive feedback once I have time to play around with it more and sit down to write...
First Impressions:
- would love more space
- hard to place items where I want them when there’s a huge image right in front of the item as I place it 😬
- would love to be able to access my instruments to play with friends in my Shared Space
- props need more interactivity... right now most feel very useless and expensive
I’m super excited to play around with it! For now, I can’t really say much more. 😊
Thank you guys for all that you do!
🤍
I'm giving feedback for Whirtun. 
hi, had a quick question and was wondering if anyone could answer it. is there any place where switch beta content is being discussed/shared?
In the switch discord server
Yes, the Switch beta Discord.
Welp, good night. Becuase I don't even finish a single quest so still confused about the feature
ohh, where can i find the link to that server?
Beta testers' feedback is very important for TGC to create a good player experience! Please try searching for things yourself instead of asking here when possible, and remember to submit your thoughts in #beta-feedback so the devs know how to improve 
I believe they have their own server specifically for Switch Beta
To be honest this is what I thought shared space would be, a space where me and a friend would be able to collectively decorate an area, maybe share cosmetics if we wanted to, and also I thought the props would have a use case beyond just decorational
As many mentioned already it does feel small, and it is underwhelming for what it is now, many and much more breathtaking places exist in the game, I'd rather bring my friends along those places instead. I was expecting that we'd get an empty treehouse nearby the main treehouse just like the rest of the scouts, or have multiple spaces to share in. Second it's very confusing and I don't understand what I'm supposed to do or how to share my space with everyone.
Placing props is very difficult to get just right on Sky, you always have to angle your camera in a certain way and fight for it to stay at that angle, because the camera doesn't hold still, and props rotate however it pleases. I wish I had more control on the way I place down my props.
Also, I think it would benefit from a closet shrine at the treehouse! So players can change outfits more easily while roleplaying. 🙂
You cannot the invites are only sent to switch beta testers
that server's an invite-only one, links were sent to the testers chosen to test the switch beta
You should've received one if you got an invite email, I think, but I'm not sure



