#beta-discussion
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if the removal of the 1st iteration of the cape got the discord chat being on flames for over 48hours, we could've possibly seen it being brought back
/s
Just because you leave feedback it doesn’t mean TGC will change something. And I also don’t think leaving the same feedback over and over helps your cause, or rallying others to do it. It’s always up to TGC in the end. 🙂
No-one called you ignorant though
Also, i loved that cape too, it's simplicity was nice. But even after seeing so much feedback to bring it back, it hasn't come in any update. So, i don't think there's much hope now.
The cape was good, but yeah, we can't do anything if it was scrapped. They might be having their own reasons to not bring it back.
I think one reason could be that there are already so manyyy Cosmetics in this season, they might not want to add more now.
Meant to reply to this
@spark lance I am pretty sure it is mostly based on adding new players , I got it maxed out in like 2 days because I kept adding everyone I saw
Ktjn had mentioned a permanent game feature from one of the previous updates that will clarify some of items from this season... was that the daily quest giver’s items/friendship tree? Am I missing something else?
I hope the shepherd system never makes it to Live.
lol i feel like labelling people as shepherds is really gonna cement the idea of moths especially treating others like NPCs
It doesn't have much use but it can actually help with old players specifically wanting to help new players in live who don't have much to do anymore so they like to do that. That is the only good thing I can see
Oh yeah btw i love the updated friendship constellation, I wish they release it on live
yeah.... and that demographic is about this 👌 small 😔
What's new? I had no idea of any changes
Wish I could show you the difference but my phone cant open sky rn during battery low 
@white latch it's okay. Thanks for the information.
I'm just addressing my distress that other things end up coming to fruition, but someone asking for a super cute cape back is just brushed over, even by other players. Telling me over and over to give feedback, even though if what I said was thoroughly read you'd know I already did that multiple times. I know how to test. I know how to read a FAQ. No one directly called me ignorant, but do you see how this behavior is treating someone like they are ignorant?
And being sarcastic towards me really just doesn't help at all, it just makes you a meanie.
Its sad that I can't even talk about concerns with a community. This game means so much to me and makes me so relaxed and happy, yet some players are just really nasty towards me over nothing, even though I never even do anything to anyone. Its why I just mostly stay in my corner, aside from a few times. Too much drama goes on in this community (especially lately), and anytime I am vocal about my opinion here, I usually just feel some kind of negative energy in the replies given to me, even if it was something I needed help with. Every. Single. Time. But I'm always respectful and I think out my messages very deeply before sending them because I am autistic and have trouble communicating and don't want to have my words be accidentally misunderstood, but somehow they still do.
All in all, please consider the emotions and possible neurodivergencies of the people you talk to. Sky is a friendly game that encourages kindness, so please try to act in the kindness it so tries to teach us, even if you don't agree with the person's opinion.
That's all I'm gonna say about this. I need to sneep now. Goodnight.
Ain't gonna look at it
i think theres just a lot of misunderstanding always going on in the server unintentionally, most people dont know each other and dont know how long or short theyve been a beta tester for so people always answer with reminders on what to do (like reporting hackers/directing people to feedback)
i do agree that people should be allowed to talk about stuff like that without the constant reminder though. it can get annoying for sure lol
I thinking, Invisible cape actually just a template for other cape. Just copy the code for invisible cape and add an asset and change the price also add to the sprit tree
Maybe we can suggest to add new things to the #beta-faq for helping more people in the future ? 
#beta-feedback Will be your best friend
I can suggest something for the Discord server in this channel ? I’m not sure, it’s only for the beta content I think
Because it's beta FAQ I just suggest you to #beta-feedback for let them have beta FAQ changes
how to miss a point being made 101
it's not only you who got this feeling time to time, i did too even when my opinion was the same as the majority who talked in this channel. I think until you express your opinion in a respectful way and with reasons it's all good. Sometimes some topics just won't start a conversations or not the kind you wished to read. There are always players who don't know the existence of feedback channel so regulars here tend to redirect everyone there
the cape was cute i agree but i couldn't imagine it as this seasons ult, however i can totally imagine it in another season with similarly styled cosmetics.
tbh im not sure if they should add more stuff to the FAQ unless its necessary though
discord text formatting is limited and even my eyes start to glaze over and skim huge walls of text like the FAQ channels 😔
True but got to understand some people being annoyed when someone pops in and asks how to download beta, as if they didn't read the specific questions headers in the faq, either way, we just need to get along as a community and help as best as we can in some situations especially with new beta testers

@spark lance, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
I sure do agree to this. And I'd say it's presented in the most respectable of forms. I've had such negative replies towards myself too , like sometimes when i ask something in #questions-and-help people tend to redirect me to other channels saying "You can check this out there". I mean, I'm trying to ask for help and if i were you i wouldn't have referred someone to another channel if i knew the answer. Sometimes politely answering seems like the best thing to do rather being passive aggressive and redirecting people to other channels.
I went to desktop version of google play, and still doesn't let me 
skybot...
Did you get accepted as a tester in the wave a few days ago?
Then you can only be patient, a few people got the beta straight away, some got it a few days after and some are still waiting :stickerHug:
As long as it says you're a tester officially then you don't need to worry about it being a issue with your device or anything like that
I agree. We have skybot to reminds us stuff and redirect us
It's okay guys, that cape will come back one day. Don't get frustrated.
when will come beta testing in ios??
we dont know
:;(
When tgc needs more testers they'll send out another wave
Testers from before this wave weren't booted from beta, were they?
only inactive ios testers are removed, we don't know if that's an ongoing thing or just before a wave
If they were ios and active they werent, and android testers weren't removed at all due to Google changing their testing program.
I haven't been able to download the past two beta updates, unfortunately. I can't seem to pinpoint what the issue is. I was an active beta tester
Oh yeah I need to update beta 
Will do that later because school
what has been changed?
I am sorry if anyone hurt you. I know what you are talking about. Yes you have the full right to talk about your opinion and yes people were repeatedly saying "feedback " "feedback" even though you have stated that you already did. It was a huge misunderstanding. Everyone just misunderstood everyone. It's okay. I hope the best for you. (PS I am on the spectrum too)
Devs can't remove players from the testing program in Google afaik.
The update will begin downloading but I'm lucky if it loads more than just a fraction at the beginning
they can't remove android testers without unlisting the app, which is a huge pain iirc
Android testers can only leave if they manually leave
Try to delete the app and redownload the whole thing again and check if you have enough free space on your device.
thanks :3
Thank you, I'll try that.
It says I’m Shepard now but what does it mean? 
it’s a mysterious friendliness rating. being a shepherd means you can see a little heart above new players instead of the normal « light candle » button
On the update screen it says krill bean 
whta
Hey guys where's the green light for today's beta quests
Skymoth i just need the location I'm a dumb dumb
Hmm I don't know where that could be, but we could jump in Beta and try searching it together! As testers, it's important for us to look for things ourselves before asking questions and submit any struggles to TGC in #beta-feedback. That way we are helping many Live children that could have the same questions 
Prairie bird nest
The Prarie Birds Nest is the area that you have to go through to enter Sanctuary. There are two winged lights in this area and the green light will temporarily land on one of those floating islands where one of the winged light is on.
I got it dw! Thanks though 
ok but what IS krill bean? 😂

tbh I wish we had days of bloom same time as season of assembly in live bc I would love to sleep in a hammock under the bloom tree
btw, do you guys have a favourite assembly item so far? mine are the little lantern bc it's super useful imo and the hammock bc you can sneep snorp
Not really, but i like the ult cape and the daydream hair alot 
And the torch is growing on me since it's also super useful
so like you test out getting... krilled? 😅
I love the dark assembly masks, looks more like a skid than when you wear maskless 
the beaning krill is so cute look at its lil :D
I think they just mean the patch notes has the krill bean on it. Which just so happens to be this emote 
whats bean krill? o.o
Its a sky vocabulary 
i mean-
is the hitting krill? o.o

I think by beaned, its another way of saying u got krilled
is there black and white level2 cape in beta?
Yes they exist, but currently cannot be purchased. Only a few players have them in the short amount of time they were available
wowwww they must look awesome
No they just have a silver outline not much different from orignals 
Guyyys could you help me please
cause both lvl 1 cost 50 XD
I just want to play beta version but idk how to do that
Thank u sooo muck 
Upset bc I found out it's google just being mean and not the app itself. All i can do now is wait for it to recognize I got in 
Guys, how much wings in the new location? I found two. Or that it all?☹️
Only 2
☹️👎
Share your thoughts in #beta-feedback if you haven't already
Remember to explain how you feel and what you'd like to be improved!
When Assembly players see there are only 2 wg on the Treehouse::

Enchament players when they see Forgotten Ark has 2 wg:

So true
I'm expecting large candle cakes in the big tree house
I actually think this would cause a fight between Marching Adventurer and Scolding Student, don’t ask why 
2 is enogh for that smool map uwu
Forest has enough WL in it already, also. No need to add more than two.
but enchanment has mushroom
Especially in an area THAT small. Maybe 1 around the new threehouses but not more
Besides it's so ironic for a place that can't fit on a map to have a map of the world it can't fit on 
Few more hours till ts reveal 
Do TS show up in beta?
yes
Wha-
What's that supposed to spell
This is it guys!! I can finally download beta. Give me luck so I can download it in time!
Cool
I can't get the cape final prize even though I've gotten all 6 seasonal hearts from the seasonal spirits. ??? Am I missing something?
No, that is as it should be after the reshuffle. Some of us can't get the mask, others can't get the cape.
Oh. OK. Thank you. 😊

Does anyone else see android beta being available or do I have to wait a little longer?
There are no invites rn. If someone leaves the testing program you may be able to download. If you joined in last wave then you have to wait till Google recognizes you as a tester
Oh, alright thank you
anyone falling when going to new areas?
I downloaded the app tho. You can't download the app still? Or except if you haven't been a tester o.o
Some people who use android can’t download the app despite being a tester. It’s a google issue that’s been going on for months sadly
lord thats bad

I noticed something interesting today. If on live version, sky kids will go to eden and collect wing light on every sunday. In beta version, sky kid will go to eden and collect wing light on tuesday, wednesday everytime ts about to come back

And also during new updates 
I was finally able to download the Beta during the last invite wave. However I have been in the Google testing program for awhile. Sadly it will say you are a tester but may not let u download the actual app
This is not an easy Beta to get into so.....Best of luck to everyone.
The butterflies jar doesn’t do anything right?
Yes I guess-
only open butterflies if you not about oob butterflies jar 
If oob butterflies jar then nothing 
anyone falling when going to new areas?
@orchid yacht We all had this issue before, and it should have been fixed several builds ago. Highly suggest that you send a bug report If you're still experiencing this bug.
Btw this is a weirdly specific question but: Is there a consensus on what beta content can be posted on social media? Like, is it okay to post beta content from past seasons that is not a spoiler anymore? Is generally content okay that is not a spoiler (like a bug)?
I'd mark all beta content with "spoiler, subject to change/bug" and make it so you can't accidentally see anything beta 
I think some beta content might be misleading to the general player who have never experienced beta
such as the shepherd system, invisible cape,...
Or the owl hair from Season of Rhythm used to be a normal cosmetic on the Thoughtful Director spirit - you can search for images before Jan 20 2020 to see the ultimate reward was the Winter Piano instead of said hair.
There is no embargo, because we don't sign any contract when joining. But it's probably courteous to warn people, the way voi suggested. I think the most important thing to mention is that everything in beta is subject to change, because boy, have people run with a lot of things lately...
Thank you for your answers, they all seem sensible and make a lot of sense. 
:
!ts
The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on April 1 at 00:00 Pacific Time (UTC -7:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
Thank you Mr/Miss thatskybot 
Ur great.
Another beta update
Ahh did they just challenged us?
Yes
"If you dare"
So how do we crash the game? Anyone got any idea?
step 1
wear a tier 2 cape before it got implemented
the patch notes 
Another update 
these are the most ominous patch notes i have ever seen
ok I haven’t been on beta for like a week but did we just get challenged to cause crashes 
But...I haven't had any crashes...how do I know what causes them... 
patch notes getting more interesting.
Nothing feels like a update at 2am 😌
is it concerning that ktjn is encouraging us to crash the game
ktjn be like
challenge me 
We want to be really super extra sure there are no hidden crashes hiding behind bigger crashes lurking about.
I really wish they’d bring back a way to get the cape. I didn’t even get a chance to get it. I’m sad 😔
beta is beta, we gotta crash the game (or try to) 
oooh im gana teset tea table again 👀
just gonna sit there with my keyboard out for ten minutes and see if I crash again
I still crash for that on live
Do props have functionality in this new version build?
You guessed it
NO:pKrillBEAN:
I like how beta updates challenge us to break the game 
Same keyboard but every once in a while I type a single emoji in the chat box and my game's gone
Not every update has a major game changing thing.
i love finding a bug that crashes the game and doing it over and over just for the fun of it
Say..
Does anyone got MOVEMENT delay on Swing animation at Scout TreeHouse ?
The two Large Swing, when i use them
It show delayed or lags movement ?? It is unlike the one we use in Valentine Event Swing
Yeah😂 like I wanted more props because I'm garbage at music and what not, so I wanted to have little props to have fun with the game in my own way, but what do these ones even do?😂 😂
There's no point to them. Maybe TGC will add something? It's not likely since the season is about to start

anything specific to chase crashing with? just regular diverse gameplay?
I have no idea. I never crash, so I don't know what to try even.
Guys I updated my game earlier and now that I tried to get in says to update and i see no update??
I've crashed many times after getting yeeted by wind walls 
please see the note in block text in #beta-announcements
They come in approximately 1 hours after announcement
Handing out updates like cupcakes
i used to crash when using anything involving the ui. using chat, opening the emotes menu, opening the settings, things like that. hopefully they stay resolved, since i didn't experience them in beta recently
Did we just get a second update for the crashes?
Is there something new in beta or not?
Ktjn feeling wild today
let me guess.. Android?
Yes 😂 okay I saw what they wrote thank u guys.
same question, probably season stuff 1st? and then anything else we normally do
Android is locked out of beta until google wakes up. 
cant even play before the update if I wanted to
Well time to vibe now that I'm in android time out corner
I haven’t noticed any crashing in beta but I’ve experienced them in live today 
the crash fixes keep coming and they don't stop coming and they don't stop coming 🎵
for the android crowd
eh I was on live anyways so I’ll keep playing live for an hour then I will attempt to crash beta
At least..... This potentially means the new update is gonna be exciting (and filled with bugs)
crash shenanigans will have to wait... for now
lol wait until cake finds out we’ve been told to crash the game on purpose
good luck power grid of the cities of anyone on cake’s server
try logging in again on android
shrek?
oH
Android beta is working fine for me
Still same. Wanting me to update, but we all know how Google is
Look the link🌝
Beta is working now 
OHHHHHH......
it might take a few minutes to trickle out.
Now i can log in without update on android
Still updating mine
yeah I’m still locked out but I did update 9 hours ago
I’m currently just in a pile of skykids on live chatting about life so no rush to break things just yet
okay good, it'll still prompt to update in a few hours, which should be more than enough time for 164896 to roll out to the play store.
Works now
I just realised the Tea Set chat is not private, if other players were to sit on a regular Table they can see Tea Set chat,
is this intentional?
Unless Google wants to keep the update to itself 
ah sweet mine loaded. still gotta wait for the proper update to try and break things obviously but I’m no longer locked out 
Sorry guys, can you tell me where the beta test links are? I'm a little fool :'D
you can only access beta through an invite link
No invites right now. Check #beta-faq for more info
I feel like I saw something about sound issues but don't remember and can't easily find it
But has anyone had like a crazy sound and then total crash of the game?
I have it! sounded like static several weeks ago that happened for me in vault
let me check with dev and find out
Can you tell me when this link appears?
Okay thank you! I mostly wanted to know if it was game or hardware related. Because it was honestly absurdly loud and unpleasant and i was like uhhhhhhh
Same thing for the hammock 
Have you guys noticed that the spinning mentor's mask (from dreams) is a bit too separated from the player's face? It makes it clip through most hairs and looks a bit weird tbh, I don't know if it is intentional
Imagine even being able to download beta when I've been waiting over a week despite being approved as tester many hours before the testing closed .-.
I got approved for sanctuary but wasn't able to get in until prophecy, sometimes google just sucks 
Anybody thought of taking the challenge set by Ktjn?
Good night beta friends
It's already 3am my time I will get some sneep
Good luck trying to break the game 
You're automatically into the challenge after downloading the update 
Did this update bring anything else or just the crash fix?
Updating beta twice in a row be like 
Is this What I Think It Is or just a crash test 
ey I finally have the update on android 
lmao theres a new one now
Same TS in beta and live on same dates and same price right?
I’m talking about the new one yes. I got the one from 9 hours ago already
And even a huge one (Around 1Go)!
Where is the location of 2 more SNL candles in GW? 6 are at the beginning and the other 2?
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
There's two off to the right, or there's two near the steps to the next area
I know one on the steps the one you saying off to the right is near ship?
well I typed for like a solid 5 minutes and didn’t crash so yay that seems to be fixed
also my constellation isn’t overlapping like live so either that got fixed this update or in a recent update that I missed cuz I been away for a week again
Yes Google really does suck and I just wanna try out beta :l
The beta update size shows 17MB, is it that size or is it complete 800MB in BG? because the download speed seems slow for the 17MB on Wifi
Every update always says 26kb for me
like every time
I had been downloading te first update all morning and now theres this one, which is not downloading at all 😂 guess I will have to play at night
I have that happening on live, but not on beta
Okay ty!!! I've had both static like the other person who replied but I also had like a really loud "laser gun" sounding thing that was kinda scary. 
I reported it cause the crash prompted me to report what happened prior to the crash but I dunno how the crash reports on the app work compared to here.
I see you're trying to ping the everyone role in multiple channels presumably to stir up chaos. Malicious trolling is not welcome in this community.
I haven’t experienced bugs in beta lately, some crashed but nothing in game. Makes a me a bit sad honestly cause I want to find those bugs

I'm sure we'll have something for y'all to break in glorious ways soon™️ enough.
Cant wait

As long as I can keep placing hammocks where hammocks don't belong. 
okay the teaset is supposed to be on the same channel as the swingset and seesaw, not the table, does someone happen to have a video of the chat being shared with a table? (please @ ping me for a video link
)
oh I can recreate that if I can get a volunteer who doesn’t have @sinful wind added as a friend. lemme ask around
I found a crash
and sent a video over #beta-screenshots-videos (sory for ping
)
Anyone with a table wanna test it?
Also did I get this correctly?
Chat is supposed to be shared with seesaw and swing but not table?
the spinning mentor's mask (from dreams) is a bit too separated from the player's face? It makes it clip through most hairs and looks a bit weird tbh, I don't know if it is intentional? I just noticed
Oh yes, but if you look closely it seems like it's not properly connected to the face, you can see the kid eyes if you look under it. It seems kinda weird if it is intentional
havent played beta in the last 2 days 
miss it
Im so dissapointed with the ts
4 2nd returned in a row ts ggrrrrr
Third in row
Don't get your hopes up and you won't be disappointed. You know TS are random, so you'll just have to deal with it
People assume TGC picks out the TS and that's not the case at all
Tgc why dont u release fur cape. , juggler , thinking emote, and flute after 5 years 😒
Please keep this chat beta testing related
You can talk about TS in #general-sky-discussion!
Just keep in mind they come at random and TGC doesn't choose the spirit
Imagine if they release the fur cape , juggler , thinking emote, and flute in 2027.. veterans will be super dissapointed because these. Cool stuff should be antique now hahaha
@spark lance did you know that mantas are vegetarian too?? 
Please don't send a huge wall of text and blank lines like that, it disrupts the chat 
AH
HahahahahHAHAHAHHA
#live-feedback is a better place for your thoughts on traveling spirits, as it pertains to a live feature not something being tested in beta. thank you!
traveling spirits are random, for better or worse, relax for 2 weeks or spend those candles on friends and other things.
For every person disappointed in a repeat spirit, there are just as many folks who are excited for the opportunity to collect the spirit's items/expression.
Think that more and more spirits are added to the "pool" of options, currently there are 40, so the probability that the ones you want will come is less and less.
And clearly some will be repeated, just as there are others who have never come
Ive been relax for like 2 months ,4 2nd time returned of ts in a row
So hammocks can read chat from both 4 player props and 2 player props, I'm testing some more stuff with a group of strangers I found
such is the nature of randomness, it is still the most fair distribution of Spirit appearances.
hmm that definitely should not be possible, if you can grab a video of it, please ping me so i can send it over to the team.
Okay, will do!
Ktjn when will u make a new feature where we can wear the scarecrow mask and the lightseekers mask together so we can match any masks and look cool i am so excited cuz more mask will come specially in SOA ... i hope by making that masks there is possibility we can wear 2 masks at the same time huhuhuh
wearing two masks at the same time doesn't really make a lot of sense.
you're welcome to ask for hair/accessory items in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived for future ideas, but it's highly unlikely we would dramatically alter released items like what you are suggesting.
The default mask under when wearing the scarecrow mask , sunglass mask is really not good looking with matching outfit ;(
Wait what's the ts for beta? Are there ts in beta evem???
Same one as in Live, unless we are specifically testing another TS system
Which we aren't atm
is the new TS system still being tested? I haven't seen any news in a while
In reality, we shouldn't have the TS system unless we're testing a new feature for it.
What is the new ts system about?
i wouldn't devote much effort to it, testing on those changes has since ceased, and the team plans to reassess and revisit the feature some time in the future.
Hammock can see tea set chat too.
Never mind! Hammock can only see chat from tables, tea sets, and other hammocks, not the swing or seesaw
So you can spy while sleeping?
Hmmmmmmm
I’m guessing I can’t opt out of beta roles anymore due to the discord bug?
right because there's a bug with the tea set, not a bug with the hammock.
i can manually remove them if you'd like, but yeah until discord resolves the issue, trying to do anything with reactions will be buggy/inconsistent.
some people have been able to fix it by force closing and restarting discord, but it's by no means a reliable workaround.
:)) would be greatly appreciated if u could, trying to separate myself from sky for a mental health break hah and I can’t seem to get the ping roles off atm
both of them?
Yeye! Thanks ktjn :,)) greatly appreciated! Hopefully the issue gets fixed soon
for discord in the mean time
How are you doin Ktjn? How are you feeling? 
P. S. Chat is dead
the usual, working on ||[redacted]||
ktjn hope u are doing well especially with the recent flux of negativity in general chat 
Ppl wanted the juggler. I warned them that it won't be juggler. Ppl got mad
i feel bad for staff, i'd get so discouraged seeing those messages aaaa :( maybe i am just sensitive though lmao
Are there travelling spirits in beta??
yup! they come at the same time as the ones in live
I believe as your audience grows biggest you get used to suxh things. They happen. You can't please everyone. It's important to know what's just negative feedback and what's just opinionated negativity.
Once can hel develop while the other belongs in trash can
especially since there's really no control over which spirits get picked like so many people were saying "the ts is completely random, stop directing hate @ staff" and it just kept coming
you also have to consider a lot of sky players are usually young and ? immature? especially the ones in this server? still feel like it's not an excuse though
people can be disappointed but for people to blame and get angry the staff for a randomizer is pretty low. i hope people end up enjoying the emote when it comes back on thursday
Well if you're going to feel sad because a 7 year old toddler said bad things then gurl... Just block the toddler and watch them cry you a river 
if they could block every toddler that sends them hate they probably would, but in masses like the ones on the discord it's a bit harder. jus wish the community could be more understanding of things like this. we're lucky we get traveling spirits at all
i just feel bad for staff, second hand guilt/embarrassment if you will
genuinely curious, im not sure if i can ask this but why were they returning back the facepalm emote for this new season?
not sure if its true but ive heard many complains about them being used as a mean gestures bfore-
The facepalm is cute wym
i'd argue there already exists some emotes that can be used for rude purposes, like stomping emote or the cross hands "no" emote
ive only heard rumors of them not originally adding it due to the implication of rude gestures, but im not sure why they decided to bring it back. perhaps it's because it can be perceived as a childish action, and felt it fitting to bring it back in a season focused around a child's perspective?
The no emote, the angry stomp, the scolding emote
They're expressions to Express yourself it depend on who the person is using it but I've heard lots of people really like it
the worse is the ones who conspire that TGC handpicks some TS to boost candle sales lol
but hey they probably are used to it considering the amount of feedback that we can't see
THE SARCASTIC SLOW CLAP IS THE ULTIMATE MEANEST EMOTE
i never knew it was rude-
ohh that makes sense 
LMAO thankfully it's only ever been used against me once
Imagine u playing a piano and trying really hard and then when u finish they stand up and start clapping slowly and sarcastically......
I think worst comes to worst they seem exasperated rather than directly mean
when i do level 3-4 clapping, i go like "MMMMmmm splendid indeed" thats what i thought on that emote
i used to think they avoided making any emotes that shows negative emotions towards another but no more but the meanest seems to be facepalm
yeah ! it feels more like a sophisticated "bravo" clap but it can be a sarcastic one too, ig it just depends on context
I think the angry stomp takes the cake
LMAOO i started playing a song after another person was playing a song and i think i did a better job than them at performing and they slow clapped. only time that emote has been directed at me
This all comes to the basics. A tool that i will not mention the name of can used for doing both good and harm. So is the tool evil or is the person evil?
there is a lot of variety in tools tho
the person makes the choice not the item so like 
Well now u know....
i've only ever interpreted it as sarcastic 
wildin
mb its bc ive never had to experience someone using it against me
seems like an emote people tend to forget about (like me)
but a tool is usually something to do work with so the person i guess
but in general no matter what the person is responsible for it because the tool don't have a mind of its own
Besides we can't only have exclusively positive emtoes....balance
can i ask about beta even if i don’t play it? 
yes
of course!
i love ur pfp 
thanks! i was wondering whether the outfit with the boots (i think from the spirit with the green cape) is behind AP? sorry if this doesn’t make any sense 
Having negative emotes helps communicating better with other players 
Right now it is but its a subject to change so it might not be when it enters live
is the jar just decoration or is it suppose to have butterflies or something like that ?
Right now it's just a decoration
It has been said that it will gain a function I believe, but yes, at them moment it's just decorative 
I'm praying devs give at least the jar some functionality.
I'd love to see it spawn butterflies with the colour of our cape.
Imagine black butterflies :pWow:
they said not everything will have a functionality but they will have a purpose
First time I’ve ever been able to try on every cape in rapid succession without crashing. Good job!!!
What's the use of the shelf?
there isnt a purpose rn other than decoration :0
it shakes your skykid

The purpose : being pretty
if you can actually make a small area for yourself using the props i don't mind if its only for being pretty 
Hold on im making a meme
LMAO
I just read the letter for the update. It said a phrase which I think would be challenging
ArE We GettiNG A HORsE MOMMA?
tbh I am wondering if there’s gonna be a delay on live since MOTD still sayd something like 5 days 
what ts are the beta testers getting? 
Same ones as in live
TS isn’t being tested in beta right now, we’re just getting the same ones in live at the same time so people have something to do in beta if they’ve finished the season
Hope tomorrow's TS isn't from the wasteland. If it is, I'm so done for
It's Sparkler Parent and it's in Valley I think
it is 
Not that place. I'm dead for good if I go there
are you allergic to crabs?
Aren't we all?
no, how are we supposed to eat them if we’re allergic?
Have you seen us eating them?
That's exactly the point
I can’t find stars in the treehouse, did they remove them? 😔
Edit: it’s my first time trying to search them so maybe I didn’t search well?
So this TS will also be in beta too?
Those guys are really dangerous (if not for the fact that they're creepy). They work in groups to drain your light away
Oh I found one, nvm
m8
honk
Okay thank u guys goodnight 
At the end of the tunnel inside the treehouse and somewhere up high in a tree behind the swings
@gilded talon belated hi 
Mmm if it’s intentional for the hammock to see chat on chat table then can we chat with them too? 👀
I feel like I'm not being that active in beta, for some reason my smaller android screen Is causing me a headache :")
Someone reported it but more reports the better, it seems like a sit action on the talking bench bug again 
if you're getting a headache, please take a break. you don't have to be on beta for 5 hours at a time to be a good tester 
Oh, so is it a bug we can lvl 1 2 3 sit on the hammock?
Hi there. Sorry for the late response. saw you weren’t responding so I went on cr 
Not that, I was referring to being able to see strangers chat messages when using the hammock near their table 
Okay, but is that a bug??? Is it actually supposed to happen???
I'm not sure, I would think it's a bug because it's kinda like spying on chat tables
I think we need confirmation
No!!!
I'm not talking about that, what the hell
Oh, so is it a bug we can lvl 1 2 3 sit on the hammock?
If this is a bug, and it gets patched, I will, and I swear, will find the developer and feed them to the krills

I think the sitting thing is normal since it's just got item collision, the same way you could just sit on top of a table without having to sit at a chair 
Yes, but when you leave the hammock, it will stop moving. In this case, the hammock keeps swinging when you sit. Once you do a full sit rotation it will get you up and stop the hammock
I'll have to test it myself to understand what you mean but I don't think it's much of a bug than just a little thing you found out, the same way you can sit or lie down hovering above the ground as long as you were standing on a item or ledge then used lvl 1 2 3 sit 
I would send the video BUT. Discord is being a dumas and not letting me send the video saying its above 8mb, being said, in this server the max file size is 50, so let me edit it
Oh, I see! It doesn't seem like a bug than just a neat feature like using emotes whilst lying and sitting. Since when you stand up from using the hammock normally, it stops the hammock too, hope that makes sense 
I wish bookshelf is visible to friends also and why do crabs disappear so fast now i cant fill bookshelf with crabs
and my friend can only see the crabs at bottom shelf but i can see them on the all the shelf’s
Ummm y’all I think I broke the skyhelpbot I asked for help because when I try to update beta TestFlight says it doesn’t exist and restarting doesn’t work and the skybot just said hmmm that seems really odd let me think on this
And that was yesterday. Yep. I broke skybot lol
screams like a seagull
Has wax been added yet by any chance?
Is dis true hmmmmm
Helpbot puts you into direct contact with a developer, so a real person is trying to figure out what your issue is
Honestly I don’t know I thought it would be a common issue ;-;
They didn’t respond since yesterday and I’m getting concerned
Well they have hundreds of people to respond to and they have to work within their office hours, a wait is expected
sometimes helpbot message threads can span over a week if it’s a complicated problem. I’ve had ones that were open for over a month before so you just have to be patient while they work through everything
the tgc staffers that answer modmail tickets have working hours and non-working hours, so sometimes they may be actively chatting with you and need to step away for things like breaks or the end of their shift. it's largely handled by one individual at any given time.
A WEEK OR MONTH- I’m way too impatient oof
depends on how complicated the issue is and their working hours yeah. most issues are resolved pretty quickly within a day of the first response
Okay I’ll try waiting I just hope I don’t get kicked out of beta for being inactive ._.
Sorry for being negative but I really think the ultimate gift for this season isn't up to par with the others. I got the pass a while ago when I thought the cosmetics would get better, but now that they're pretty much set in stone, I feel like I missed out. This will be my first season with an AP despite already being in 3 :(
QUICK QUESTION
Will the AFK affects still be added to the live game play ?? Or is it a scrapped idea now :0
I feel like this should go in #beta-feedback
I feel like its too late :( the season is starting in 5 days, I am just disappointed in general. It is not something I can really give feedback on
from the looks of your thread, you are signed into a different apple ID than the one you have beta access on.
Ooooooo that’s weird how do I sign into a different one because I thought I only had one ;-;
or you voluntarily left the test group, which we cannot help you with, because we don't track who has access due to the nature of invite links being anonymous.
I never left beta. I only just got it
and you've already tried force closing the testflight app and restarting your device?
Not yet , but i guess it's still an idea for live soon so people can feedback abt it
Like 5 times yes also should we take this into dms because I feel bad taking up space in beta discussion
I don't have DMs open and really this information can be used for others benefit. or you can wait for a response in your helpbot thread.
Oooo okay makes sense
If all the above troubleshooting steps don't solve the issue, there's not really anything we can do. we don't have a way to track that you had beta access because of the anonymous public link method.
Oh no...
How do I use the translator in the game? I cant find the translator.
In beta ? You can click on the message from players there's a translator in right
I cant find any translator. I've tried clicking chat. I met this person who was speaking Chinese, and who translated to English. How do I translate English to any other language if I start to.talk first??
you can only translate others messages, not translate your own into another language
if you're seeing a foreign player translating from their language into english for you, then they're doing so with an additional app outside of the game itself (likely Gboard, from what i've usually heard around)
you can translate your own messages in game if you use a third party keyboard
yeah i use Gboard, it’s a little finicky sometimes but it works
Does it work with armenian? Genuinely wondering
Perhaps I'm not quite sure
Does it use a 3rd party system or is it tgc's own translator?
__
@Avirls#7844 wanna test it?
I usually use Gboard translator it's more easy to translite but I'm not sure abt the beta one TGC might doesn't have all translator for all language
AVIRLS HEY ITS ME "alr" how is u

actually this ain't sky related, just hola
also hi ktjn wish you a good day/night. adios
the translation is through a third party tool, it should support all languages. it's algorithmic, so it's not a perfect 1:1 translation.
the current one does seem to be a lot better than the first one. it does translate slang with parenthesis explaining that it’s a colloquial use sometimes.
obviously it doesn’t get everything since slang is constantly evolving but I feel like the translation is more human than textbook if that makes sense?
IT WORKS WITH ARMENIAN I'M SO HAPPY AAAA
I'm happy for you 
At least Sky translator knows what yeet is compared to some textbook definitions
How do you get sky beta?
Headcannon that sky is using deepl for translation, coz deepl is just. so. awesome.
Wait for an invite wave. #beta-faq has more info
Make sure to read through #beta-faq
you can only get in through invite, and invites are closed right now
I sent my first beta bug I feel so powerful
you are powerful
Just for the record. The chuckle spirit still has the trumpet on his back. It can be seen by normal gameplay aswell.
Chuckle didn't want to sell it to us, so QG snagged it and is willing to sell it to us for two seasonal hearts. 
Oh yeah the daydream spirit has the backpack too,
Iirc the director spirit from rhythm also have
but not selling it, and the upcoming TS wears cape she doesn't sell😂
Not surprising for the chuckle to carry trumpet but not sell to us tbh
was an update just released or are my testflight notifs sending late
My playstore still on 164896
Guess who finally had enough hearts to buy the dress in beta?
Do you guys work on elder hairs in beta too?
Nope :O
I have a few of them, but im not actively working on them.
Someone link me the picture of tier two of black cape?
The map of forest is so cool 
Yo, still missing 2 seasonal heart for ultimate gift, i consider this is a bug 😁
You should not be able to buy packs from past events right? I just watched someone buy halloween packs and i saw their cape change to the bat and then spider and they werent near a dressing room thing
if you spent all 6 hearts before they added other ultimates, then no, its not a bug. they most likely are not going to compensate for lost currency. i, for one, cannot get the mask because i spent all 6 hearts before the change.
however, if you recently purchased a seasonal heart and it either did not register or turned into a regular heart, then yes, that is a bug
They also bought the days of feast stuff too right now
!reportfaq Nope, that's a hacker
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
Thank you!
Wait, there is a tier 2 of black cape?
It was available back then as a null item and whoever bought it still have it.
@spark lance Please don't discuss hackers or hacks in this server, it's against our server rules and Sky Terms of Service 
Yes
The black, white and pink ascended capes are available to ppl who purchased them before they got removed
Because someone ask. And yes i'm not discuss, only answer question 😉
Omi are you the same omi I know?
Yes 
does anyone else feel like sheet 21 sounds off?? like most of it is really pretty and it's one of my faves but i feel like certain parts just don't sound the way you'd expect it to if that makes sense
It's very unpredictable, but after a few times of playing, i got used to it.
I actually like the unexpected sounds
I didn't feel that with the piano part, but when I tried handpan
that was a weird experience. 
if you get reported, can you still see the player who reported you as a lit player? i think i just got reported by a lit stranger because i asked them to help me do a bug where i get to try out the assembly horn when i dont have it 
i cant tell if its the same person but they’re not lit and afk so i cant check 
and theres just an eye above them when i call from far away and i still get recharged when near them 
sent a vid of it in #beta-screenshots-videos
Yes, you can still see the player as lit,
Unless they blocked you.
i guess they just blocked me as a stranger? we aren’t friends
You can't block strangers, afaik.
you cant block strangers though
thats weird, i was pretty they were them. 6 wedges and chibi
You can
just tried, nothing happened 
U cant report gray ppl yet. U need to light them first
reporting does not block a player. you can still see them and interact with them. you can only block someone who you've friended iirc
Will the no-wax-afk really going to be implemented?
Maybe it needed some refinement and discussion internally at TGC, but hopefully yes. 🙂
Hooboy I feel a storm brewing. As somebody who heavily dislikes the feature...
Let's not discuss this. Not right now lol.
how hard is it to get elder hair in beta?
I agree. I like the AFK feature too. I hope TGC polishes it further.
if you focused on completing your constellations, probably not hard? I have the same amount of elder hairs in live and beta because i don't focus on either 
I think it depends how fast you can accumulate hearts, ie how many active friends you have.
The only reason I have elder hair in beta is because of a bug that left a double heart event on. Take that as you will.
I got the Forest Elder hair because I wanted to prove a bug existed (the one where you couldn’t call them down in Eden) and I don’t even like that hair. 😆
I also just. Didn't feel like myself without
.... haha..
That was always my favourite hair.
if i didn't spend my hearts on ascended navy and purple i would probably have finished everything already, but shiny 
Yeah, ascended capes kind of have precedence. 
Cant wait to see the black and white ones..
what program was sky coded in? i'm gonna try n cause a crash
it probably won't work but i'm bored
sky uses a unique engine, created specifically for the game. so... we don't know
If you mean. Cause a crash by running scripts, that's a TOS violation.
i don't
i want to see if getting into certain areas using already implemented glitches (chibi fall) can cause crashes, because it did that on live for a good few months for me
apologies for my terrible wording
i think they wouldnt add em
I think the pink, white and black tier two capes will arrive at some point, the design team are preoccupied at the moment with the arrival of the new season. Hopefully they live up to their price tag 
Sky was made with models in Autodesk Maya with a custom engine, I believe
But yea there are a number of long-standing bugs that haven’t been able to be fixed yet (Chibi fall is one of them, others include not letting players staying on piggyback when going through a portal, player separation in the level transition from flying race to end of stadium, etc. )
someone watched the gnomon video 
Oh what’s the gnomon video?
(Oh I just searched it up now, yeah I’ve never watched that)
Gonna be honest I hope they never fix the chibi fall.. it's. Impossible to get around in beta without it.
There's one question on my mind. If we're testing things on beta, why are every cosmetic locked for everyone?
Isn't the purpose of beta to test everything right?
I've seen couple capes clip with the season scarf, the fluffy orange cape still clips with the prophecy pants
cosmetics doesn't really require much testing and clipping is too common (even in other games) and almost unavoidable
in beta its mostly the process of things that requires testing
plus with everything unlocked we'd never know about bugs that occur when buying stuff from spirit trees. which happens a lot more often than you'd think
Once tgc sold this item, no matter it's bug or not tgc shouldn't change it without any questionnaire. At least, tgc need ask all people who bought it if they are willing to change it.
I don’t think TGC needs to asks their entire player base if they change something. Plus if the teaset was on the wrong channel by accident, it was not intended to be this way and should be fixed.
It would add uniqueness to it too, would work kinda like a bench, where you have a private chat with somebody. If you want to talk with people from a table you could still use one or join to the table if it has free seats. I don't really see a problem with that
It's not wrong channel by accident, the teaset could be use normally but just for public chat. some people think it's designed for public chat. but now tgc wanna change it, so what I buy for?
I dont have a video chat but this happened to me at home space. I was using tea set with my friend near the sakura tree and someone had a table in the middle 
They could use mail box for questionnaire. that's democracy.
Ktjn has explicitly said that it was done by accident in the answer you replied to and is supposed to be on a channel with swing and seesaw.
If the Tea Set is on the same channel as Swing Set and Seesaw, then it should be considered as Private Chat Item, right?
Tho, this happened in Live not in Beta,
my friend in other Tea Set Prop she set up, saw my other friend's chat on another Tea Set that he set up.
Note: Both friends are not friends to each other
Omg you can high-five the Questgiver and it'll count for the quest!!

Ah that must be a bummer :( you bought it since it was previously on public chat
The teaset does not affect the user experience at all. Even though it was an accidental mistake, tgc has been sold it. It should be retained instead of doing this forced after-sales behavior.
Besides that you are on the wrong channel (this is beta), you could give them feedback on it. We are just other players and cannot help you.
I would like for tea set to be 2 person only because i was def uncomfortable when i noticed the strangers talking in a table far. Kinda makes the whole point of a private convo poof
to be fair, the info about the tea set channels was posted here in this channel
That's why i reply to Ktjn.
Solo players would appreciate this a lot 
if you want public chat why would you ever want it on a 2 person chat prop? just use a table at that point
Ktjn said it on this channel i just replt him. so I'm in this channel.
Please don’t ping Ktjn, she is not responsible for helping people with individual problems. You can head to #live-feedback
/Like, none of your friends are on, and you have limited time to finish your dailies
And you just frantically fly to the main treehouse to ask for a high five
Or a hug for comfort
Pretty much a lot of things 
I think tea set being public chat and a IAP makes it look less special and people may think "why should I buy this if this works just like a table with less seats" making it so it doesn't "connect" to other tables would add something to it and not just "table 3 but with less seats"
I think it's individual problem.
Yes. But Ktjn ist not responsible for individual problems.
Okay, I also report in feedback channel. Thanks a lot.
Do we know the functions for the assembly items yet?
May or may not change so... Kinda?
Mhm, like i want to enjoy drinking tea with my friend and conversing privately..not having random people listening to my convo or us listening to them xD
When an item has moved on to Live from beta, you can give your feedback in #live-feedback , or report it as a bug (if it is) in the appropriate bug channels. Don’t ping staff members. They are not anyone’s personal customer support. 
(ˉ ˡˍˉ 乁≡厂 ˉˍ ˡˉ ) I ping him just for reply his previous message and about that special message to give my advice. I don't expect he help me personally and one to one.
I said it here also because he said it in these channel. No homos.
It’s a general rule on this server not to ping staff and especially not so many hours later. If you want to quote someone’s post you can turn off the ping.
Yes, but Ktjn is a staff member and doesn’t need advice. Plus we don’t ping Ktjn unless it’s an emergency (which this is not), because if everyone messaged her she would be flowing in too many messages.
Also Ktjn uses she/her or they/them pronouns.
For the sake of discussion, I think Ruuuu does raise an interesting point if assuming a scenario where someone may have bought the tea set under the specific assumption that its chat was meant to be on the same text channels as other 4 player chat props. That's not what I expected of the prop personally, but I can understand if players do not like the idea of a paid prop having its properties changed after they already bought it with certain expectations.
okay I see
okay okay
i think this is the issue with discussions a server member brought up awhile ago lol, sometimes we barrage them w/ redirections to other channels instead of actually engaging in the topic. not that its a bad thing to keep the server in order and tell people to abide by the rules but it can get a bit much when you have a bunch of people telling you the same things lol
Yeah I was feeling this
i can totally see how it can feel belittling if you have 3 people telling you in a row to go to the feedback channels or whatever instead of talking about the thing they have an issue with lol
anyways... i'll be honest i never noticed chat props had different channels to them until very recently despite having played for a year. thats kind of neat, although i think 2 player chat props will always stay as "private" chat props so the chance of it being a public one is very low
one thing i haven't had the chance to test out after it was mentioned though: does that mean people on one set of two player props can see text from other players on two player props in the same area? (i.e. whether two people on one swing can see the convo from people on a seesaw in the same map)
I think 2 player chat items share chat, so if there is a seesaw, swing and teaset you should be able to chat with all the people there if you use one of them. I haven't tested it tho just assuming
Yeah, I think that’s how it generally works. But I also haven’t tested it lately to see if it has changed.
I haven't tested it on beta, but on live, i got into a chat with a big group. And so we used 2 tables and a teaset to chat between each others.
I think i read somewhere that it should be disabled but idk if it is or not
I think it's quite nice. Kind of how you can put two swings next to each other like a 4 person swing set. Or pushing 2 tables together for a larger 8 player table
Just a brief idea but maybe there could be an option to turn off other tables/chat seats
But ideas belong to #beta-feedback
Why so? Is it just to prevent random players from joining?
My current method is pushing a chair or 2 into a wall 
The concept of chat tools is so that you can chat with anyone, so that would be strange to turn off. I also don’t know how many individual settings you can have in a mobile game.
Mhm! I personally don't mind people getting on my conversation, but for some i can see why eardropping would be an issue. So if you could disable/mute other chat spots, it would be better.
Or maybe just lock your table/chat seat, so that only you and others on that prop could see the messages
yeah, at least in the case of the 2 seater props (which i understand were meant to be seen as a private 1-on-1 conversation), it feels a little weird to think that someone in the same area could put down their own version of a 2 seater prop and just read in on someone else's supposedly private conversation -- i can understand why there might be technical limitations though, just that those props aren't quite as private as i first thought if they all share a text channel
the issue for me is all of the strangers names are "anonymous" so if a rando joins in the convo i lose track of whos saying what 😔
especially since i prefer leaving the chatlog open since its neater that way
Yeah I agree with spearmonkey. Besides props, I already find it a little weird sometimes when I’m taking to someone in private chat and a different friend joins with whom I have also unlocked chat, and then the friend can just read what I say to my other friend. Then again, if you have a friend group with chat unlocked it makes a lot of sense.
Same. I have no idea who is who if I don’t catch that honk.
Oh yeah. It gets chaotic especially when servers merge and you see conversations of another 2 tables
entirely random idea that just occurred to me: what if tapping on a message makes you see a honk from the player who left it if they're still in the area? 
Well, the game is a public space, so remember not to share personal details or sensitive info. 😉
The game has a tight censorship so sharing things like phone numbers, emails and other personal info should be marked red.
That's why I don't mind eardroppers. Cuz i don't share any personal info
All they see is just me spamming heart emojis and just being lil ol' me
Me neither, it just find it hard to talk to two people at once who can’t understand each other lol.
I don't share those things too. You might be even tracked down by bad people if you do so
Yeah. Being tracked by moths is scary enough. Being tracked by bad people? Shivers man 
Moths? There are a lot of people who pretend to be moths ingame.
The only person i trust is
. I've told them everything 😌
I never thought about this before but maybe the public chats (private chats on the same channel, same props on the same channel) are kind of sky’s security system? Because you know people could be eavesdropping, you would not even dare to share personal information. If you were one on one with a friend it might be different, and in the end you might not know that friend as good as you thought. All the public chats prevent entirely private chats in the first place.
Haven't u heard? Moths have a special tracker ability which shows what sky kiddo they attach themselves to and honk their breath out if you don't light their candle
How does it work?
So about Beta Crash
I never had them Crash before
But my Friend did crashes a lot
I think it is depend on the device (?)
Hard to tell but I've heard those who are tracked by moths are kidnapped and never seen again 
Like every social platform sky also has good and bad people. While most people are good there can be some creepy people. It's best to stay safe 
Good thing I can be quite good at disguise. My Phoenix is not going anywhere
It's honestly the best just to be aware of your messages.
Just because you may not see all players doesn't mean you're alone. :stickerLove:
I still have the screenshot of that and it's hilarious. 😂 If yall want the screenshot just ping me or sum
you shouldn't post that here, shiro.
Can you please do that in #beta-screenshots-videos, Shiro?
thats funny as hell but dont circumvent the swear filter lols
It was not in beta sadly, besides, it has the cheeks word so I doubt tgc would be happy, best way is to just dm to the people
You mean...
Yeah. Some people just,,,weird 
I don't like when (probably a kid) says things like that
altho ngl that got me lol
Eh. Guys, who can't open the last ultimate gift?
Have you spent all your seasonal hearts 
Yep
I read it. What kind of people would say that to others? That would be, just very rude of them
Idk mane, but I started laughing like hell. Made my new years a blast.
Phew you would be surprised, I have also met some questionable people on sky lol
Then you cannot buy the leftover seasonal items. This has happened many times in beta 
Can you report them?
I thought that word would be marked red in sky lol.
How do you even reply to that :wheeze:
Im glad my sky experience is solo and peaceful. Only weirdos i met on sky were annoying honkers
Oh, this was already 4 months ago, I have no idea who they are anymore, besides never saw them online since then so they probably quit
Lmao was it on beta? The image seems old 
And this is not a bug....right? I just think to report about it..
Already said it wasn't on beta, but people were asking me for the picture. It was on new years night while the fireworks were setting off every hour.
Where are beta invites? J cont find it snymore
Reminder that as testers, we should try looking for things in Beta ourselves when possible! If you are still struggling to find something, please remember to submit it in #beta-feedback as that feedback is very valuable for TGC and can help many players in Live 
Oops srry i didnt read the message above 
Nope! Chart for the questgiver changed and so did the items. People who spent all their hearts can no longer buy the cape 
No, it's not a bug #beta-known-issues message
There will be no more beta invites for this testing cycle unfortunately
I feel like I'm blind :')
Thank you
I was today's year old when I knew that slurs are not censored in beta like in live 
You can see info about it in #beta-signup-info and #beta-faq (in faq you can give yourself a role which will ping you next time there's an invite wave!)
That was in Live lol.
I'm actually surprised it was not censored like wut tgc. It wasn't even open chat, just table filter
We should move on from this discussion 
Drama
Pure gold
Comedy gold 
Everybody is waiting for april first to see if the TS changes, and im just here thinking we wont even get one 
reminds me, some uh. censored words that shouldnt show up, will still show up in beta chat if its a product of the in-game translator lol
@quick harbor please refrain from using profanity in this server 
Oh that reminds me. We can say bad words in Roman of other languages aka Japanese
Well, if they did pull "there was no TS all along!" They could use some really requested spirit. The sparkles lady is dope, yeah, but not THAT wanted (like juggler, crab call or dismiss),
Altho it would be funny lol
nope, they still censor some of them for me
but i think it depends on what you say lol
And also Croatian 
“There is no Ts, go sneep
“
whats worse is saying something completely innocent in another language but the ingame translator turning it into something.. rude and unexpected. lol. although of course not every translator is perfect and the chances of stuff like that happening are pretty low overall, but still.
If feel like a lot of people would be upset if they changed the ts/did not bring a ts at all, so I’m wondering if it will be a different thing entirely 
"So you're finally awake traveler. What? Sparkles spirit? What are you talking about, traveler?"
Yes i hate that 
What if they do us wholesome and end up switching TS into one of the very requested 
Manta pant TS 
But it would probably cost lots of candles 
i just want juggler/thinking to come so i can finally be free from TS forever
Where can I ask why a specific word is banned. 
It's just the synonym of angry
I want the furry cape so badly but it was iap before so it might not come back for candles 
I mean, candles aren't a problem on my end but gosh please no. Grinding them is pain 
I want the manta pants, just when is Sanctuary TS gonna come 
Ktjn said every past spirit can arrive including dismiss
Really oh good to know 
winter piano was also IAP and it came back
It was confirmed all spirits from past seasons are gonna come back at some point. The fact it wasn't here yet is just rng based.
They also said that shouldn't make Seasonal spirits iap
It’s also classed as profanity and therefore censored on the server.
They are using mod, the ability is can showing bad word in the game, they create new account for fun, trolling anyone
Damn right when you pinged me I sent in #contact-the-mods. Can you just delete my text there

Lol it’s ok.
Suddenly I’m excited but I’m also broke 
I'm currently testin on how long AFK at Home can take the 3 Chevron Bar
Been AFK since 15.00 so far only 1 Bar gone and still have 2 More Left
Live version ? 😂
Maybe a ghost sakura tree 
Live version ? 😂
@spark lance yes, since i'm curious on why the Developer suddenly want to add that AFK system, which the one removing our ability to get wax when AFK
I want to see on How Much candle i can get from that Tree and how much Hours i need to spend there
1 chevron to grey out takes ≈6 hrs
And how many candle you got from AFK on that Tree from 1 to Grey ?
I think someone said that they can get alot of candles from the tree.
I think they said 20 but i think that might be too much? Not 100% sure
Someone in #questions-and-help made a chart but I’ll have to search for it
9 or 10, not sure how much i got from no chevron, either 4 or 5
20 from the tree is possible, but that requires an incredibly long afk period -- long enough to the point that if you have the time, just doing a regular full CR is much more efficient
this is the reason why ig, if u haven't read the message in #beta-announcements #beta-announcements message
Yeah. Funny how people grind the tree, thinking it's faster, but honestly just 30 minutes of cr is more affective
20 from the tree is possible, but that requires an incredibly long afk period -- long enough to the point that if you have the time, just doing a regular full CR is much more efficient
@sullen relic it is efficient for someone that have Works and School actually
Imagine if you AFK there since the start of Breakfast until your Work Time done
You didn't need to worry getting Krilled or Lost your Uber, you can still get the Wax by staying there
They are trying to find different way for fun, cr become boredom, or maybe super busy
Oh, to have a phone strong enough to leave sky on for hours, without smelling smoke 
Ngl crs are still really fun for me, despite literally going to same places and doing the same things daily
But yeah i totally agree. New ways of fun they'll add is gonna be amazing
Oh, to have a phone strong enough to leave sky on for hours, without smelling smoke
@tropic radish so far my Device only get hot if it got ubered or uber
If it stay silent, it didn't get heated up
Also i used Lockscreen and 0% light screen
Making it less heat and consuming battery too
I leave my phone with sky on when i know I'll be at least 5 minutes busy.
Or sometimes i just play music under the tree for 30 minutes secretly hoping i wake uo the sleeping kids who afk there for hours
I like vibing in forest or graveyard sometime...
But not recomend in graveyard since sometine the server merge
I prefer to stay in Ark more now
Vibing with Mister Enchantment
(Sorry, couldn’t find it yet
)
^yeah, i'm actually hoping they find a way of allowing people to earn candles for playing around with music sheets or their instruments -- imagine earning candles for memeing around 
@graceful creek if you've already spent your seasonal hearts you cannot get more
#beta-known-issues message
I'm waiting for Sending Letter to friend through in Game Inbox actually
Sometimes some message being unable to be seen by others.. like "Goodbye or Hiatus" Message
Found it! (the tree farming chart for each chevron)
#questions-and-help message
to be honest those who are afk under the tree are very annoying, because my friend and I want to enjoy the cherry blossom tree with the tea set but there are so many people around it and they just..sleeping 
Im thinking about submitting an idea of a "call friend" feature.
Alot of times if i want friend to teleport to my home server, i have to either text them on discord or send them a heart.
It would basically allow me to call them to me
i find that if you and your friend just chill in a fresh server, no one really merges with you? i stayed in at home with another friend, just the 2 of us for like, 3 hours lol
That's a future inbox feature 
Feels like i need to sneak into China Server
To see how is going there-- so far i only know China got the Two Drama Hat free, while we only got One
I hope tgc makes it possible to send messages to friends
Oh there's much more.
i have a little list.
- Dream season hat
- Music hair pin
- Cute pink bow hair
- White+pink cape (apparently a beta cape for them)
5., There's more but i forgot lol
Also they apparently get some days of xxx event things for free
We need more Manly Hairtyles
Which is more of Manly Sides, instead of Cute or Simple.....
I went into the chinese server for a little bit.
After an hour of playing it forces you to give personal details. So I stopped. Honestly I wouldn't reccomend the netease server if you value privacy over hairstyles. :p
A BUFF POTION 
Maybe they should stop make the Resize Potion being random.
Instead giving new Potion than let us Choose the Height of what we want
20 AC
Some of them are veteran and lazy to do emote, want peaceful for theirself or busy
@spark lance did you know that mantas are vegetarian too?? 
Ngl i would and i tried to. But my god. I don't know chinese so it got me into so much trouble and i downloaded like 5 other apps just to see if it works, cuz i really adore the dreams hat
I eventually gave up because i was worried of what im actually downloading at this point :stickerGloomy:
My dream outfit has to remain a dream 
That’s because they need to know how old you are in order to play for longer time. The younger you are the shorter the time you get to play 😂. After about 90 mins of playing the game will force closed and you can’t play til tomorrow. ~~Also thisss isntttt about betaa
~~
Yeah. Dhdhshsh it's not about beta. So. Lets talk about .. other stuff lol
So how's everyone's crash challenge going 
Hmmm. So mantas are vegetarians.
Does that mean i can see what the Vault mantas eat? They're transparent. Can i just see a little leaf inside them :pPopcorn:
The Manta eat Moss
I haven’t updated to the latest beta version...yet 
They eat air 
when is sky's birthday?
Mantas eat cotton candy clouds 😌
I can’t find beta-invites in here , how could I be a beta tester ?
@surreal loom, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Around june. Maybe 20
18 july ios 
7 April Android

Oh july 😂 I mixed up
Im excited what anniversary items we'll get this time 
soon 
Ok tq
me too ,I was happy at that time to celebrate Sky's birthday! I like the hat 
Birthday theme table 🎉
People with 1st anniversary hat are the true veterans. I sadly couldn't get it cuz i couldn't get a phone that allowed sky 
Would. You consider me a veteran, ? Because I have the hat-
I was a moff i found out that office existed at the anniversary

@spice mason did you know that mantas are vegetarian too?? 
Is the trigger word veteran? 😂
Probs not always
or party popper🎉
I found it randomly when i saw 2 people go through the wall and i was like "SECRETS???? IN MY SKY???"
but then i realized it was just the office (despite officially joining sky later, i knew alot stuff about it since Enchantment, so i knew about existence of the office)
I just didn't know it's location
Another 150 candle table? No thanks 
I already sold my soul to the Feast table. Unless i wanna start a table collection 
I think one of my friend dragged me there i don't remember who it was 
I remember being spoiled by trying to find the winged light and searching the wiki. The second I landed on vault of knowledge I saw a link for the secret area and was like 👀👀
Only one of my friends has the cape (in live).
But since things happened, i now just rather wait for days of xxx events to unlock the office.
Talking about beta capes, couldn't someone rq fetch me into office? Ik this is not the place to ask but im lazy to switch channels lol
Second the motion
Third the motion
Damn, the no-wax-afk condition is really bad for people in busy working hours while still wanting to get candles with semi AFK-cr.
venture forth and cause them, if you dare
ummm what does this mean?
They cancel it bruh
ktjn is challenging us to crash the beta
be concerned
imma do it, ive been saving a crash for this moment
Is this confirmed?
Fail to crash beta, crashes phone to the wall instead
Enabled Light collection while AFK
#beta-announcements
They bring back in beta 2 days ago because agrresive and harsh feedback about this
They brought it back in beta*
grammar please ty
No need, im american 😂
- Please don’t ping someone for old messages.
- Please don’t comment on other’s grammar. Not everyone is a native English speaker.
- Just because something isn’t currently in beta, doesn’t mean it’s gone forever. It might just need some refinement.
I was definitely against the afk mode at the beginning, because of how its worded and the first timer they introduced. However, after confirming the timer is indeed just short for testing. If they ever brought it back and the timer is 20-25 minutes , i wouldnt really mind it after all. Because i dont think it really affects cr since you cant really truly afk during runs. You still need to return home when ur uber tells u that they have completed the realm, or open doors , etc. That is just my opinion tho
sigh, he's american though
anyways alright
I definitely was one of the folks who may have gone overboard with the feedback on the anti wax afk system, so i apologize 
nah we were just discussing. we weren't trying to make tgc overwhelmed. this is a huge server and a lot of people have to discuss about the game
I think some players were very upset and vented in the feedback channel, perhaps not always in a constructive way. 
They wrote it until 10 paragraphs and my screen full
yep...people were very upset, and I understand but they forgot that it’s not finished and may never be a thing
When there was the afk drama happening, many didn't get that it's still in development despite others telling them it 
🤔 I feel nothing about afk. I shut down the game when I'm afk to avoid unnecessary battery usage.
Is it because people want to be hand holding with friends doing candle running so they can get candles too.
I mean. Certain people in here did call others "exploiters" for being upset with the idea. :p
Neither side of the argument was in the right. Imo.
Maybe people who tried to calm the situation were at the end 
Haha. .. man. That whole situation was a mess.
Yeah 
Goad things sattled down
umm.. as a solo candle run, I didn't really mind this
Solo runs are almost complete! Now we just need an item which burns plant and we can reach the heavens!
High-fives with assembly questgiver works.
Also somethin' that can "use emote near the friend" works
let us high-five every spirit
hello there
I just want everything
I have the ap tho I will not have any problems 🤔 ok this is flex 
Ap means..? Sorry but I play from a while, but never actually wrote here this much
adventure pass - it's an iap to have access to all cosmetics in the season basically (slowmode long
)
You’ll get gifted an ap soon moff
im sad that the cape is not free after the changes..
but other free stuff is cool too
The New seasonal candles will Be available with daily quests, right? I mean when it will come out obv
Excited for the hammock

Y E S.
I LOVE THAT HAMMOCK
But the Ap wont be available anymore after this 4 days, right?
Oke!
hahahhahahah get krilled ktjn i just crashed the game :)
5 free masks as of rn
It’s still beta so things might get shuffled around again, nothing is confirmed until things reach live
i really hope they change the need for normal candles & hearts to complete the tree, it kinda takes away the purpose of buying an ap
I think the idea is those items will still be available after the season is over. Like if you visit the quest guide at the tree. Maybe that’s why? So no rush?
Since the quest giver's probably staying behind I can kind of see where they're coming from, but I'm not a huge fan of the prices
it would be cool if they stayed, but yeah the prices at the top of the tree are a bit
but if they stay forever i guess we have time to earn candles & hearts and buy them later on
Those prop are staying there its either free or cost u candles/hearts
I don’t mind the prices but it will certainly be a case of save up and not spontaneously buy everything. Well at least that’s what I should do. Either way saving for items can be nice. Give as a goal to reach for 
Bubble emote looks cool
I would not have taken the afk sys with so much anger or might not even be against it at all if the update message was worded differently and the reasons explained in a less dismissive tone.
“We’ve noticed that players will leave their phone on overnight to collect all available light falling from the tree. This behavior is socially disengaging and takes away opportunities from players who want to chat and connect with others ...”(this was before there was significant amount of wax in Live for peeps to even think it worthy afk under the tree to collect wax)
“To address this type of player behavior,...”
What was there to be addressed considering the fact that most of us did the afk party in beta to test limits of the tree wax/hard caps in the first place? Isn’t it what beta testers are expected to do? Go to extremes/cause bugs/carry out stuff to attempt to crash the game and report them (as TGC asked us to in recent updates), so that if there’s anything wrong, or any possibility of abusing, devs could fix it before it hits live. There are so many ways to approach this, yet the wording that could hurt the most engaged beta testers was chosen to write this. I got angry cuz there’s just a lot of judgmental wording in there, whereas afk is an activity that is harmless to others, which differs it from trolling which should be prohibited. I get how afk to collect passive wax can be seen unwanted by TGC but other solutions could be considered, ie. hard capping the wax, instead of blatantly attacking afk folks and tell them it’s some behavior that need to be “addressed”. Not that this afk thing would affect me by any means if it goes live, as I’m always the uber among my friends, but I feel sorry for those who couldn’t play the game otherwise because of certain limits/disease/disability. There’s just more to be taken into consideration when this kind of decision is made, and simply labeling afk people “socially disengaging” is not fair to them.
@gilded talon, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
riiight?! especially the big bubble
it makes me wish we had a little “friend” that followed us around whilst travelling in sky 
I’m excited for that but I’m getting the emo hair first 
Legends say I'm still waiting for google play to let me download beta
I’m still confused on how to get it I read the beta faq I still don’t understand 
@molten monolith dammn don’t worry, patience is key. it will become available at some point, you’ve just got to hold in there 
@digital turtle what do you mean? unsure how to get into beta?
yes
I don't know how it works for ios but google takes around a few hours to maybe even months to let someone download beta
@static saffron, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Just look at #beta-signup-info when the season is about to end. They post links and stuff.
What i did was just download the beta in google play store and got myself the update role and it works just perfectly
Invites aren't linked to seasons anymore. They only make new waves if more testers are needed
It might be more confusing than usual right now because the reaction options are missing in the #beta-faq as per #known-issues.
Invites are now on an as needed basis so you will have to wait for an invite in #beta-signup-info which will ping the beta invites role when it drops.
We have no estimated time or date for these invites now, so it’s best to just get the invite ping role (when it becomes available again) and then check out discord if you get a ping here.
Google is stupid and makes so many people wait in order to download beta
Some of us are lucky, while others are left to wait for google to work
It's been over a week since the last wave, and there's people still waiting. It might even take months to get in
Unfortunately.
It would be me, if only i didn't lurk in the #beta-screenshots-and-vids and saw a wave of people talking about beta
New players*
As an android user who got in, it makes me sad to see others unable to get in 
Hopefully they’ll make it. Best they can try the trouble shooting steps in #beta-faq but otherwise it’s up to Google. 
Google almost tricked me and made me uninstall beta.
First update after the latest wave has thrown me on some google page, telling me to re-install beta.
I wasn't sure so i asked here what's up and people helped :pPopcorn:
Harbin pspspspsps hug
just lower the prices TGC
does anyone have any ideas what the shelf and pots uses might be?
the props will be the deciding factor for my ap purchase this season but tbh i’m not that impressed 
maybe
does anyone have any ideas what the shelf and pots uses might be?
the props will be the deciding factor for my ap purchase this season but tbh i’m not that impressed
@hasty vessel good news for you!: for now, they are non-seasonal items (Meaning they are not ap items)
a pot that releases butterflies players to recharge anywhere in the map? i was thinking about this to, it would allow f2p players a way to recharge as-well? is the torch ap?
Right now there is a flame pot that isn’t AP. All things are subject to change though.
Not certain about the torch.
The torch is not ap either, for now
It's beta, it could become ap and the pot could be more expensive and charge more
Right now tgc put a lot of funtional and fun stuff in non-AP. Only the lamb and the cape, the pants are AP. 🤔 this feels unreal 
It's beta, it can change 
I'm a loyal AP buyer anyway. It doesn't affect me
I’m just curious to see if any more props will gain a special function 
Butterfly pot plz, TGC. 🦋

Better to be a bigger pot
(But I wouldn't mind if they put a tiny krill in the pot)
same! i’m really not sure about this season but i think i’m comparing it to dreams which was my favourite of all time, this one seems a little lacklustre to me but i’m gonna hold fire until all the props are finalised
Somethin got a new function? 
Oh right i can just read messages it's not a long convo
It's definitely a big jump yeah i agree.
Im more of a cosmetic person rather than prop function, so this season isn't AS amazing as Dreams/other seasons were.
But i still love it and am enjoying it!
Only reason why im carrying my torch around is to save some poor moffs from losing light and to just recharge fast (That's literally the point if them Oyaka. Yes i know i know im dumb lol)
Even though the season's more prop centric I think the cosmetics we've got from it are nice 
yeah for sure, helping new payers is one of the most fulfilling aspects of the game, i’m still missing the honk feature
!
In my opinion the best ingame item is the campfire for that quick recharge and social aspect so i’m glad that it’s sort of being reintroduced to new players with the torch, it’s super helpful.
i’m really intrigued about the aerial acrobatics prop hopefully we’ll be able to set up our own courses? 🤞🏽
I like simple masks like lightseekers (the colors of em can make up for the fact that I don't have the rhythm ult mask
), the capes are cool and I love the hairs too 
i’m glad that the array of cosmetics is growing, it means that everyone will be able to find their perfect fit 
mhm! I think the masks will look great with a look I've got with the jellyfish hair in live
At this point Android testers who haven't been able to download the app already probably won't be able to
why do I feel like this is related to hackers downloading sky from illegitimate sources
Nah it's actually been explained by Ktjn already. It's this weird 95% rule Google has
Is the message at the start of forest that says the whole "A lonely scout at an abandoned camp wishes to build the ultimate treehouse" repeatedly even after you finish the season quests a bug?
its repeating because the scout is lonely
you cant escape the scout
go to the treehouse
There should be a skip button. Is the boring answer.
There is a skip button for me tho 
new quest giver is so fun i cant-
Haha, yeah they are lovely
There is a skip button, you can also jump off the ledge either side of the gate and it won't play the cutscene 
Gate/arch/stone thing?
There Is a skip button for me, I'm just saying that the repeating of it doesn't seem like something that would be intentional imo 
It doesn't but they added a intentional skip button so could be on purpose, the same way the camera pans when you enter dreams village but it is weird 
Less than a week before season drop
but the useless prop items still concern me 
They will have a purpose later but not functionality
-Ktjn
Im confused what does that mean? Is there a difference between purpose and functionality?
For example.
Pot can be used as decoration
Being decoration a purpose.
Yet pot doesn't spawn butterflies. Which could be a functionality.
Oh..I guessing the same goes for the pillow, shelf, and hexagon shape thing? Well that's huge bummer 
Yes
I'm getting flashbacks because gen chat is talking about afking under the tree 👁️👄👁️
Already mentioned it thanks..I was afraid of those props staying as non-use items on release but ahh well
Me too
Guys please give like my boat its near eye of eden 
I felt like TGC really should do reseach on what the Player want more and what they didn't want more
I know that they want to be fair with each players
Now i see much more Player stop CR because the lost of Motivation in doing them
Like there are nothing that making them want to Purchase in this Game. The CR system was Active because Player want something to Buy.
But if there are NONE to buy. Then they won't CR anymore and will eventually think that this game is REPETITIVE.
If they managed to BAIT player in doinf CR. I bet this game will became much more active than now.
Does anyone tell m the price of the light after the last update? I got it for free so i cant check it
Whatever TGC does is in their hands. Sure. The research would be fine, but if they don't wanna do it, it's fine too.
I feel like we should stop blaming TGC for small stuff and let them do what they have in mind first. It's their game anyways :stickerLove:
Well ktjn said it will make more sense in the future and considering that those items without functionality are there to unlock post season for future players my bet is we will have a personal home we can decorate in the near future
Little hut just for us. I adore that idea 
A personal home sounds amazing 
Damn now i wanna go and claim some caves
Some place to relax only with friends kind of like the privacy you can have in the office sounds amazing.
Sky will turn into Sims where we build our own houses lol
Terra-forming in it's finest! (Or whatever it's called)
You can already adopt moths so yes
Maybe we can carry all assembly items at same time! They are all in same backpack
My brain just decided it wants to plant moths in sky. Amazing. 
wait. you can adopt moths???
Yes but actually no lol
you can block people that you haven't made friends with, right?
Yes you can, however no, but sure you can, eventually no you can’t
I don't think you can. Only option you have with stranger is to light their candle
you can report people whose candles you have lit, even though the button doesn't show up. I was thinking you could block them as well
Oh? Well i learned something today! 
!reportfaq iirc
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
I don’t believe you can block them, no, or else it would imply that a non-friend gets added to your block list in your home constellation
Sorry mr/miss bot im lazy to read rn
well, the button is there, but it doesn't seem to do anything
I thought you can report stranger but can’t block them. But you can be friend with them then block them like a love hate relationship
now there's little stars with no names on my constellation 
Tragic love story
got the other music sheet, now I have three blessings and the things in the questgiver tree to go
Gj!! Hope u get it asap! 
I hope they're planning to add something to Home.
Like, permanently. It's so sad without the tree or the ring
I don’t think she has ever said we will be able to unlock past seasons. Do you have a quote? I do agree it would be nice to have the private space return to the game, though.
I thought it was more “that’d be nice but it would take a whole lot of time and resources”
Yeah. I think it proved a bit too taxing on the game as a whole, which may also be why we’re not seeing so many custom settings either.
You can do all quests from past seasons right now starting with sanctuary. Right now you can unlock the items without functionality as you progress through the quests in season of assembly. So the items will be unlockable post season.
I said post season (after season) not past season.
Ps: sorry for the misunderstanding, i meant post season not past season. I'll blame the autocorrector.
I know we can do past seasonal quests. It’s ok. 😊
I think I didn’t understand the connection to a personal space, that’s all. But I would love one too!
WHAT ABOUT ENCHANTMENT
If you start out new, You can still do all the questline with cutscenes of Enchantement, Sanctuary, Prophecy amd Dreams
If you've done them before, you can't do quests of Enchantement or Sanctuary and you can do the questline of Prophecy and Dreams , but without cutscenes
I specified >starting with sanctuary< although i was wrong. You can do enchantment's quests as well.
Do the traveling spirits appear first in the beta?
They appear at the same time as live
no, we get them at the same time as live, if at all. we don't test them, they're just in beta because we get bored sometimes 
Sometimes we have others for testing purposes.
I heard that there were sanctuary ts in beta during prophecy 
yeah, at one point something new for TS were introduced, so we had a ts for 3 days and then a new one immediately appeared, but this time they were all set. it was to test when ts were going to have ap locked stuff
Yep it was to test and get feedback for a feature where TS has things locked behind the AP
The number of people going afk at the tree in live.. it makes sense why they’re pushing for an afk timer
It was just that one spirit, right tho?
there were multiple sanc ts
Were the ap locked items in a ts the items that were ap locked during that spirit's season? Because then that'd make sense
I mean the AP locked TS feature. Was it just for the jellyfish call spirit or was it used multiple times for testing purposes?
multiple times
Well I'm just hoping the rng finally gives us a sanctuary ts in live 
Wait did I miss something in beta? Why are we back to talking about the AP locks again? I thought that was on hold for now
I think the conversation just came up.
I think if TS had AP lock again we would have it in beta rn.
Altho I don't see why would sparkles lady have lock in live.
I mean it’s already AP locked in beta..
Are they?
Yea the items are AP locked but cost the same as the tree in live, but it doesn’t really effect us cause everyone has a pass here
Ah. Maybe I haven’t been able to see it, because I already have the spirits.
It's a possibility!
My big complaint with the AP lock has been the tree structure.. I don’t really like the tree structure they chose for the 3 spirits they were testing with
Good point.
I've only seen the jellyfish spirit with the lock, but i assume it's same as them.
Yeah I don't like how u need to spend money for the pass and alot of candles for the slot below it.
Which spirits did they use other than jelly?
The current tree structure in live has more branches and therefore more purchase paths
The ones they were testing with, the tree structures matched sort of — not really — the in season tree structures
Which is not bad during the season and makes sense’ but when they come back as ts and stay for a]only a couple of days, the structure feels very limiting and forces you to purchase one thing before another
Plus, the fact that you end up paying a lot for a cosmetic you don’t even want —- I think the jellyfish hair was like 80 candles
But you had to buy it first to get the pants
80 candles for hair + 10$ for pass
@empty escarp If you had an Adventure pass, the pass lock is a benefit for you, because you get the pants for free.
Whereas before it would have costed 10 + 48 (hair) + 75 (base cost for most pants)
But if you don’t, then you’re paying 80 candles for a hairstyle that would have previously been just 48 candles
So it’s actually unbalanced for f2p and heavily favors the pas holders
Yeah it's basically 2 prices in one item. That's logical hehe
But let's say i wanna buy hair only, which would be 48, but since the price also includes the pants, it's kinda---yeah spent candles on nothing
Meanwhile I’m running around in circles under the tree 
I liked the idea to be honest, because AP is giving those top level items for free like it would during the season
It’s just how unfair and unbalanced these prices are for f2p
I feel like what they should do if they want to keep the same seasonal tree structure, is to implement the prices and locations the same way (maybe double them if they need to)
In other words, bring the exact tree structure back..
I think to balance it they could make the prices as they were meant to, but simply have the AP locked items for AP. (Still playing the 75 for the pants for example)
Hair would be f2p for 48 and pants, above them, locked by AP but would still cost 75
But hey we're in beta so im looking forward for changed 
I didn’t like that idea because that was 2 layers of payment — one you had to get an AP and 2. You had to pay with in game candles..
by making the AP locked items free, they removed dual payment system
But the cosmetic branch offs were done badly
They should have kept the original seasonal tree which was
Emote —> music sheet —> hair —> spell and the branch offs on these were AP locks
So maybe they could have something like this instead:
Emote —> music sheet —> wing buff —-> spell —> emote level 3 —> hair —> spell and the branch offs would be the same as the seasonal ones
Damn we're brainstorming here! 
I agree!
But no matter how good the AP locks ideas are,,,,,plz tgc don't put em in Live. I beg thee 
honestly my anxiety is just for a patch to be released
I think it will upon Assembly release?
Oh no i just remembered i spent my last AC for warp with a friend! I completely forgot ACs are used for wing boosts. Noooo 
There is always the Sunday to spend in Eden..... 🍀
I like going through eden i just don't wanna collect the stars afterwards 
I’m just scared of Assembly releasing as a broken mess because of a lack of patch
We just got 2 yesterday.
You mean you're worried that Assembly will turn into what Dreams did when it was live?
Sorry my brain is ded today. It doesn't function
A patch in live? 👀
that’s all yes
Oof yeah. Im with u on that. Fingers crossed
Noo in beta
Srry for confusion. We get a lot in beta so i wouldn't say we have lack of patches. They will probably need one before season starts in live too, but we went through all the quests yesterday and they worked perfectly for us.
That means this latest patch may be the one to go to Live.
What happened in dreams had nothing to do if there was a patch beforehand or not, the spirit bug didn’t happen in beta or in their internal testing builds
You can’t fix what you don’t know about
True true
It bothers me a bit that some of these props have no function.. Since they don’t really look different when you’re wearing them either, I’d probably leave the pot and bookshelf to rust in my closet for now
I am confused about their purpose and why they have such a high price, when you can't really do anything with them.
Idk i kinda see how can they end up function-less.
It's a social game afterall. Social games have bunch of useless props for RPs or just existence purposes
I’m a bit bummed out about the hexagon... I was looking forward to custom races/obstacle courses so much :( it’s sad they don’t really have collision enabled
Uhh Same but they mentioned it will makes sense so i hope it really will
Hexagons are floating up and down now its cute
But Pakka, once you see that bobbing up and down 50x, you’ll get bored of it and they just look like a picture frame ;-;
Maybe these props are just a 1st step for a new feature in future updates.
Not everything needs it's purpose.
I think what Voluntary is worried about is that there are some people who rush to buy seasonal candles to be able to complete the whole constellation in a single day, but I think the version of the live game doesn't necessarily have all of the updated stuff that's in beta right now. So if the season were to start on Monday without a patch, it may not be the "correct" version of the season with all of the updated items and seasonal trees switched around, which would then be chaotic for TGC to fix later
I don't know what TGC's plans are of course, but I can see why there would be some reason to worry considering the countdown timer is still there in live and nothing has been said about it
💭, they can always push an update before the countdown ends and force people to update the app to continue playing the game
I’m not too worried about that
Yep, that’s it - general polish and the sort
Yeah, there is still time for a patch before Monday, just hope it happens kind of soon I guess
I dont plan to watch it for hours
poor friends of mine can start worry about me if they see me watching that thing continuosly, but its cute nonthless 
Sometimes u just....stare. i agree it's cute and relaxing. Especially combo-ed with hammock's swings
Sky is about relaxing and talking to people or friends.
Despite having beta and live, both versions still develop and update.
It doesn't need constant action and things to do
especially beta
I mean, I won't decline more attractions and funsies but if they don't want to add it than okie dokie
The thing is they do have to push a basically complete season to Live, because there are people out there who will complete on first day by buying candles.
Good point, but I feel there needs to be more ways of social interactions.. I’m one of those types of people that like activities like hide and seek a lot :O
I say sky sports but then again i really don't wanna do those 2 races we have in valley
Ktjn did say this
It would be important to understand that all content in a major patch is not tied to the day 1 season start. there are planned mini-patches over the course of the season to implement other supporting features that players won't get their hands on until later in the season.
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I meant in relation to the cosmetics, not the quests. Although, I suppose they can't buy the items at the top of the quest giver's tree until all quests are out.
Fearbot. Woah. That's a great name
You guys go to eden in Beta every end of Week ?? Just like in Live ???
ah, that explains it - thank you
(I have ping off)
Im good with AC on live, but since i wanna hurry with wing boosts on beta, i go weekly
I don't go to eden in beta.. well only Once then i just start Bugs Hunting
I'm too lazy and don't have enough time to do it on both live and beta
maybe when school finishes
资格啥时候能抢呀,我这都没那个抢资格的频道了
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Ill go only until i have 6 wings after rebirth. I'll be satisfied then and staph. (Only if it's an emergency dream TS)
I don't focus on TS cosmetics in Beta i think (?)
Since we might get wiped out and i think the one with Bugs will always the one in Season and not the TS
Yeah i have my candles for TS in live.
But there's some TSs i really love and want on both :pSkyLove:
Is the bug with stars on cape been fixed ?
If you mean the ult cape, then yes. It now indeed has stars showing 
I was just thinking, since the afk system was implemented to stop players afk under the tree and get free wax, what if Sky had a daily reward system, and I'm not talking about the quests. Like maybe log in once a day and get increasing amounts of candles 1-7 perhaps and then it resets each week or when you don't log in one day. That way you could still have players who have limited time be able to get items. Thoughts?
It's nice yeah, but afking under the tree could give u like 5-20 candles if you leave it overnight under the tree.
So if that was implemented and the tree was still up (or came back next year), it would just be more and more for afkers.
The ultimate solution to whole afk thing is to either not afk or stop the tree from dropping the wax
But it's a good idea non or less
But the tree is soon gone anyways so it'll stop no matter what. I don't think there needs to be more afk system related conversations, since in few days it's practically in past
The afk system wasn't just put in place because of the tree.
Oh right i forgot. It was--yeah u right. My bad on that end.
I just experienced the most gut wrenching thing and I feel so bad. I just chilling in home space when I merged with another server and heard this awesome person playing the new trumpet. So I go over and sit with them and they stopped and started crying till I left. 🤭 I’m sorry if I ruined your music
Awwwwww!!! Im sure they played wonderfully!
This reminded me how i was just chilling under the tree, played random notes for fun when suddenly one kid lit my candle, laughed and left.
After that they just walked around me so i just sat down and pretended im afk
Need help for the tree house quests, anyone willing to help?
it kinda was mainly.
Mmm my game is lagging sooooooo badly after the most recent update... I lag even on 0 bolt
should I bug report it or should I send it as feedback?
#beta-bugs-android / #beta-bugs-ios
Also @calm orchid you can ask in #beta-looking-for-group
Ohhh sorrryyyy i bychance sent it here
I think we can all agree that the devs would probably appreciate it if we all actually played the game they designed and produced, rather than afk in it for hours on end, regardless in what fashion we are doing the latter. 
The tree was like,,,,, the cherry top in my opinion
I liked the idea of the tree, hanging out underneath it and just relaxing. But that's not how it ended up, unfortunately.
The community has made it quite clear that the implementation and the reasoning could have been explained better. It was never our intent to attack players for it.
Thats literally what I said smart pants either way I personally thing it's up to the player to play how they want to..
I think maybe devs and players are looking at the game from different perspectives, and that causes misunderstandings and frustrations on both ends.
That was a bit uncalled for.
I only said that the sakura tree wasn't the only reason for the afk system happening.
sorry, I'm a bit crouchy from work
there's no reason to be rude or disrespectful.
it's probably a good time to take a break from discord then.
Learning what your limits are and stepping away when you're not feeling yourself is a really good life skill in general.
I was simply giving a suggestion on another way to get candles since they are quite grindy to obtain.
I mean, all I said was smarty pants, not much to cry over
(I am Voluntary, just like this in advance for April Fools’)
Knowing your limits is important - though can be learnt the hard way, sadly...but at least are learnt. I’ve pushed myself beyond them several times, and it never ended well
an insult is an insult
just because you didn't use bad words doesn't mean it wasn't unkind.
