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Thats why sky is more like a free roam game than anything else. You can stick to the storyline but people know exactly what they want from the game even if its conflicting things and i think the new system is changing this drastically
Sanctuary has SO much room for that, too!!!
Ngl I haven’t received a single heart since they added that system

Okay guys, just remember that the afk system is still only in beta! Let's keep this chat kind! We don't want to wake Forest mama 
I mean...I kinda get it,I kinda don't...
I wish to assume that too,but that seems to be the case
If prices were cheaper and we had more games- I wouldnt mind the changes
The game is so cosmetic and grinding orientated that if major changes happen you'd be literally breaking a bridge over an overflowing river
you've drawn some conclusions about intention that don't match. Introducing a raw afk timer feature is not the same as calling passive candle collection when a friend is leading an "exploit." A lot of the arguments I see here seem to be making the assumption that the current build is the final version of the game or feature.
I wish they could just do it in home space. Since there really isnt any reason to do it out of the home
Yes because theyre protecting their players' health. Its not so much that they're saying stop cr completely, its more "please dont push yourself to do this all! you're gonna feel drained!"
You know what I think would be fun? Sky diving! The kid would take off their cape and use it as a parachute 💕
im crying faceless with chibi size is so cutEEE
But, if I remember correctly, the heart shrine people were called exploiters. No?
do faceless with yeti pants, you get white eyebrows
They haven't even yet considered the timer yet. It's so early, they just want to see if it works for now.
The time will be adjusted
i just spent past 2+ hours just reading the skykids discussions and I didn't even realise 
Atleast everyone is lively
They made it so that they required 50-ish likes to get a heart
anyone here who's angry about something, take a moment to reexamine what you're angry about and what assumptions you've made to connect an idea to an emotion. I'm reading a lot of gaps in communication here
They might scrap it! Dont lose hope
i think theyre eyelashes LMAO 😭
Really? It’s scares a little, like dolls lmao
crab hunting, whoever piles up the most crabs in 1 min wins, and i get to eat the crabs
what are heart shrine people? am I forgetting something?
Mom it's been almost 24 hours and it still says full 
I feel hurt when a game i support calls me and my friends an exploiter when we spend a real extra 40 mins to read and find each other's notes. We provide a sense of altruism to each other, sending a little kindness to the other side of the world. And yet, we r called exploiters. Im not angry, i know what i am saying for myself and my friends as skykids.
i cant find the last piece for the first season quest for the life of me is there a guide or smth ,,,
You know, the ppl who place messages on shrines, gives themselves and their friends likes to get hearts?
The heart shrine update, I believe those who had formed communities to get hearts from shrines were barred from getting them as easily
They increased the amount of likes to get a heart from a message shrine and called people exploiters for getting other people to like their messages
Wait why does it say mom whoops
ok, "note hunters" is how I think of this phenomenon
Sadly it's inside the tree. The issue has been reported although it still didn't get fixed
People who organize as groups to go around and like each others message candles/boats so they can get a free heart. It was 10 likes per hearts but now it’s 50.(virtually impossible for players who don’t have many friends)
ah yeah the note hunting groups kinda saw an uptick in member joins after that update
not sure that was the goal they wanted to achieve
Thank you
ALSO PSA
People, again, seem to forget that the two minute timer is literally only for testing purposes!! please don’t base your feedback off of the time frame only
tgc will almost certainly change the timer to 20-40 mins in the live release, if there is a live release of this
It was a seasonal emote.
50 ish
Anyway, I find that activity to be supremely un-fun, but I won't stop anyone from doing it. As for increasing the like count... Personally it hasn't affected my play, so I'm not the best judge
I understand your point, but putting the timer to 2 minutes makes people panic and become frustrated with the game. While changes are subject to happen, making an AFK timer to an already known candle running system- and is almost religiously used is tbh- a little scary.
Most of us are just angry because its something most of us see no use in. Maybe if we were told they're deeper roots to this it wouldn't be as chaotic is it is rn. All we were really given were 'sakura tree was being abused- concequences' and I think most people read it as that, is all.
^ ;;,, sorry to bother anyone i just really need help
I've seen the communities behind the shrine hearts. "Note hunters" is fine. But they've made an actual sense of family between one another because of how difficult currency can be. This isn't the first time people have been punished for trying to get more items fairly (aka not hacking). Indirectly or directly
It's alright! No need to worry! You can add me or anyone else if you need help with anything! 
Me too tbh xD
I never get many likes on message shrines anyway lol
It's still available since Tgc made it that level 1 seasonal friendship are available without any upgrades
can i send u my qr 
THIS 👆 👆 👆
Increasing the amount of hearts actually PUSHES people into doing the thing tgc doesn’t want them too. I considered joining right after the update
The timer will change .
2 minutes is just to see if it works. They surely will change it
Everyone's opinions here are based on the short timer while knowing it's just for testing purposes and can and will change/increase
I'm really not sure how I feel about "heart shriners," I don't think they're doing anything wrong, but at the same time, I feel like they're exploiting 
And we all agree that getting at least 10 likes is already hard. What more with 50? 😔 All that for a single heart
ah nevermind, maybe im not making sense
I'll chalk it up to different opinions
It takes a lot of times to go around each others messages so it’s like spending effort for candle running in my eyes. I remember spending 30 minutes giving likes everyday cuz reading and clearing shrines is actually pretty cool. Sadly tgc decided to try to stop this.
Yeah i know that but since it was seasonal it makes sense in increasing the price to unlock it in candles
Its literally a supreme hug lol
i want to put this nicely but who even would think for two minutes
Idk man, guess they need that black cape
all the activities relating to earning sky currency are currently not surprisingly unfun.
We need a overhaul? may be atleast for the sky currency situation.
Is it still available to get?
Yeah! If it wasn't so complex I definitely would have joined the group i was looking at. I have NEVER received a heart from my notes. That past update just made it more difficult
there are deeper roots though. I't been stated that other more passive or social farming methods are in design and conception phases.
As for "religious dedication" to candle running, putting it in those terms makes me pretty concerned for anyone who views it that way 😉
I hope it does !! While I personally feel the AFK timer is unneeded- some may think otherwise, and thats ok. I hope things turn out well in the end uwu
Yes! Although you need to either get lucky with positioning or bug inside it!
if you mean the first quest, there seems to be one under a tree, out of bounds. as far as i know it hasn't been fixed yet. i have seen some people say they managed to do it, but unsure how.
For what it’s worth, I do have a sense of where your position stems from — I just don’t think other people value the game for the same reasons
I think it’s just like how the tree dropped 5 candles in beta and .5 in live. Where they want to test the extreme first? I think they’re probably going to do like 30 minutes to an hour if they followed the previous patterns
Chats on fire again
Where are you? Get the water bucket!
Should I be more “social”?
I think people get a little hooked on sky, some people even get burnt out from trying to farm candles. That makes me sad, because that's the opposite of what sky is trying to do for us
Is it not religious? The dev team did good with the chevron system, but there are many ways in which they've stepped back. You speak of the root of a problem. The reason why people are so religious is because the prices of TS are astronomically high now, and there are more events than ever. That's why
WTH?! New afk system is trash!
if it makes you uncomfortable no
maybe..its a defeating feeling not geling with the sky community..*sigh idk. bums me out
Thats... kinda mean to just shout straight off
Please keep the chat kind and constructive 
Smh getting Just 1 candle less a day (by not doing trials) can really affect economy that much huh
Here's the thing,
Tgc is punishing ppl for not being social lul
It's like they're forcing us to a single playstyle
Me too!! Me and my friend used to candle run a ton before the new changes, and I mean ran candles. Change can be a good thing, and I'm hopeful TGC does a good job in explaining in what they want to do with the new systems. Its just hectic atm and I for one am not having a good experience with it- although if you and other people are having a decent time with the new systems and timers, I am not one to disregard that
I have a bigger message in what i wrote. Its the way TGC is implementing alot of features that are behaviour-restricting. Full cr discouraged? How about players who enjoy full cr? Shouldn't their gameplay be respected too? Afk timer? How about people who just enjoy being afk passengers with friends ? Note hunters? Do they use hack to get the heart ? No. They follow the rules and use their efforts to make up for the hearts to support their friends and family. Yet TGC sees this as something needed to be corrected. Where is the value of altruism?
I’ve never been a part of a specially shrine group but i see the dedicated channel for this in a server and honestly it’s heartwarming to see their efforts. They share the notes they found and liked and reply to to them on discord etc. Just to bring a positive example.
I was responding to a specific comment, trying not to generalize. And in my experience, I'm getting more candles than ever because I don't have to do a full run, which started taking way too much time well before the chevron change
what r we talkin about
My final opinion is: this still has an opportunity to change
Theres really no use in shouting or raving because ultimately we all work together to have the final say. Anyway im out
Smh im not reading all these paragraphs im just gonna cr

The Daily Light system is still receiving balance changes tho, it's not a set-in-stone system. It has a new balance change since like 36 hours ago in beta
I understand completely. I've taken a break recently from candle running bc of full cr burnout so I can't report too well on the chevron system
As far as I know, full afk means not playing the game.
Can you please explain how being an afk person ie the one who doesn't even play be fun?
Everything has something good and bad,
This... (Afk system)
Has more bad then good.
I do think afk system is unneeded because there’s literally no pros in it. All it does was making players feels frustrated.
the daily light system just received a balance change to benefit people who full CR
Cr is exhausting.. the chevron system is def helping my beta character ngl
I just don't understand how afk-ing is fun? As someone said here
Did they change it so that the candle you get from completing a valley race doesn't affect the chevrons?
The new system is nice- although for me I do trials and vault and I get one arrow at the end of those lmao
the afk timer is like a day old give it a few weeks to see what happens to it. and if you've already sent your #beta-feedback give the topic a rest
this chat is looping... ty for those who humored me. hope you have a good one
Still think there should be more emphasis on candle earning minigames though 👀
no they changed the amount of wax needed to get a candle when you run out chevrons
This.
If they wanted us to socialize they wouldn't made doing crs such a chore
it's not fun but it's necessary if you don't have a ton of time and want to get some cosmetics, which is a pool many people fall into. of course some people just skip cosmetics too
I'm honestly at a loss
What is tgc actually trying to accomplish with all the new updates and restrictions
sky is being enjoyed by everyone, no harm has been done to anyone or any tos. Everything was going good nd smooth
Gevgsvgwvgwvgwvgwvwgvsgvsggsgugsgggguvwyvvwgvgwvsg
my advice?? Reread your comment before posting it. Read it in different tones and ways to see how others might interpret it.
And if you’re angry, take a deep breath, walk away from your screen, go outside for a bit.. just kinda remember these are normal people doing a small test in their testing app. They are just people. just like you. They get we don’t like it, we’ve said it enough : (
That's the thing. There's obviously something wrong with a "fix" if people continuously bring this up and talk about it in such strong ways. A lot of people have been getting upset, this isn't just a matter of who is "sensitive" or "whiny" and who isnt
I just want some variety of rewarding activities rather than correcting our behavior to a standard.
please?
hullo...if anyone is playing pls check out #beta-looking-for-group cause I am having difficulties! thanks
Oop
Looks like they increased the slow timer
:pFIRE:
please don't escalate this to a fight. I didn't call anyone sensitive or whiny, and I won't. I have a similar reaction to the rough state of the AFK timer as most people. It needs work. Sharing feelings is fine as long as nobody is targeted or harassed, as long as we're not camping in this channel to reinforce our individual opinions. Sending feedback to the feedback channel is a good thing, but angry people don't convince each other.
But a lot of it feels like attacks on tgc's character at some points. it doesnt feel very productive after a while
Okay, I mean this with all the respect. I am not calling anybody out individually, I'm talking about the slightly more unhappy part of the community. I feel like we're blaming the devs too much, but a lot of the times, I think it's the communities fault. Just wanted this to be said, don't take this personally. It's just what I think.
pineapple pizza
i like pineapple on pizza
same here
consider the possibility that reducing the incentive to candle run actually frees more players to play the way they want. if I feel like I'm missing out on candles I might think candle running is the only option. If I get my fill of candles in other ways, I can choose.
Ah! So sorry! Never said anyone was calling anyone sensitive or whiny, apologies. It was an odd way to go about saying that these arguments aren't something unfounded or out of nowhere
Oop I don’t like pineapple ><
ily
Solo players be like

absolutely agree: the thoughts and feelings brought up by the changes no not trivial.
thank you
jesus
hey guys, daily reminder :
you’re beautiful/handsome!
no u 
being a solo player in sky sounds rough ngl
Ok so... another Easter egg thought... Oreo hunting in oob areas 👀
justice for solo players
imagine that not being required to candle run can also free a solo player to do other fun solo things too. I know that's not fully realized in the game, but I don't just hope for it, I expect it.
I agree with the idea of getting candles from minigames! Currently the only way to get candles is to do quests or run the maps many many times over, so naturally some people will opt to afk while doing this if they can, since it's repetitive and time-consuming. But either forcing people to either stop afk-ing or give up in the cosmetics isn't really the solution imo, minigames and social games, and other ways to get candles, would be much more fun 
Yeah when there's like 3 chibis racing against you in valley 
Except for the fact that some people find running fun, such as myself, and want to help other players by ubering. Secondly, with how prices for events and ts’ are now, it’s basically impossible to keep up or feasibly take a break without missing content. Daily light helped but this afk system (yes I understand it’s in development and very very new) basically sets back what DL does unless prices in game are changed.
Thing is, there's a lot of things that require a friend.
Opening a gate? Friend.
Burning a plant? Friend.
Accessing an oob? Friend.(some of the oobs)
It's very restricting for the solo player
I promise that'll never happen.
Manta riding, a sorta platformer type game that uses those glowing thingies on trees in forest kinda like Mario, Sky Diving, jellyfish saving, puzzles in Vault
I want people to socialize more, although just tackling the CR might be too straight forward-
If its socializing they want- I think there has to be more changes than an AFK system or a change in how CR is made- because before the change, people have CRed for like- ever lol
I like the idea of new minigames or maybe an area where its just for socializing in general- Home, Wasteland and Prarie I've seen are used a lot, but they're too small and it tends to get over crowded easily.
Maybe if thw avian (if thats what its called) got back or smth new was put in place, maybe the AFK system wouldnt be needed, and more people can focus on the enjoyment of its visuals and gaming rather than having to get enough candles for the next cosmetic they want
Being a solo player is
I speak from experience. Though it is hard, I've found many ways to be independent 
The other thing which might scared a few of us and made our rections more intense is the connection with the bloom event. That’s a limited time thing and this system is connected to it so i subconsciously assume(d) its gonna be a fast implementation in live too.
if thats not the case then my bad sorry.
I have a question, is days of bloom still happening in beta or has it ended?
plus the new quests. i waited three hours for someone to come
I was gonna continue on the topic,and by the looks of it,I think it's best if I don't.
Ugh, FINALLY caught up on everything in Beta. Arc, Sanctuary, Trials, Dreams, Assembly, my WLs, and Sprits. All done. Collecting, of course. Now I can just focus on CRs.
Kinda want a competitive system. Would be fun to mess with friends
can we all just sit in a little huddle and watch tv and hug? 😞🖐🏻
Maybe if they brought back the aviary and put mini games
But phone be like 🔥
I honestly feel like the quests for assembly is a good start for moving towards a more interactive system. If that was somehow turned into a way to collect currency that would be great :3
I have a question, why do some assembly cosmetic cost in regular candles and hearts ? I saw a pic on facebook
I feel like the afk system wouldn't be such an issue if the rest of the overhaul that makes candle running less important happens first
I have similar worries, somehow it feels this'll get pushed live during days of bloom even if we don't know anything of the feature timeline 
pardon? 
I would like that idea if its in sky. But im sure we wont get it 😂
ok but if i have to wait 3 hours again i'm gonna cry
Imagine having TV in sky
but at the same time, if TGC introduces social quests/activities that requires other players instead of CR, some people would then ask if they can be able to do it solo
if it were solo then it would loop back to CRs again, being not very socially active
its simply hard to balance everything
Let's not set the chat on fire again guys 
in 2025, Sky becomes a streaming service
when the switch release comes and hopefully pc later on, more graphical things can be implemented, more power for more pretty
live transmission of our friends getting ||krilled||
SKY OLYMPICS 
Tbh I wished the races had a small board where u can try and beat the fastest player- maybe put in some enjoyment-
That or maybe each area has a competition to see who can CR there the fastest lol- get more ppl involved
A simple post from dev department (about how the time limit will change etc) in a channel that won’t get drowned in chat would fix a lot of confusion and chaos here. Most people don’t back read a chat that is running at the speed of light.
I just want to throw out there that, we are working on adding more social opportunities to the game. We hear the feedback that at the moment it doesn't feel like there's enough to do that fosters legitimate social behavior. I can't give specifics, but I promise that's front of mind for us.

Okay okay but guys
Sky skateboard would be so cool
Yea, i saw a kind of tent that cost 50 candles on a screenshot. I'm a bit confused, and I'm poor mostly and i want the tent :')
Sky Pro-Skater 3. 
I feel so bad that a lot of the well known Skytubers are making videos that are fueling this controversy
it’s a testing version of the game and they are testing things.. these things are bound to happen
P A R D O N? SINCE WHEN IS THAT A THING
We're also having conversations internally about the AFK timer - specifically adjusting it from the current time on beta.
phone be like:
burn child,burn.
You don’t have to pull up to a quest with a whole group. Just like you meet strangers in the 8 player elevator, you’ll just have to wait to do the quests
. Maybe the servers can reset faster in those areas
are you sure you're not a krill 🙂
Imagine being able to make food in sky. Like a little bit of speed boost or something
Wow, sky beta still isn't available for Android. I waited like almost 17 hours and it still says that it's full. Anyone having the same problem? (I became a tester yesterday)
ooh food in sky that could work similarly to spells would be nice
Please keep the feedback coming - but do so respectfully, and in a way that focuses on the specifics of the issues. We want to know the why.
It may be early but clearly there is a lot of people very confused and upset here and some guidance is needed
I'm not a Krill if chat behaves 
did anyone else got a bug on the cinematic for valley?
Tgc really created a whole new complicated system but didn't reduce prices 
To the feedback i go. I have lots to tell about the season so far
Lets not conclude that the new candle system will take care of full cr runners before the final version hits live in improved state. I of course is hopeful that TGC will try to make the new candle system to accomodate both busy players and full cr runners, but its also understandable for people to be anxious and comment now for its current state.
home screens
better yet, make food with friends
also, re: having competition like actual races or cr, unfortunately people would definitely cheat
NO.. the last thing the chibis need is more speed
@wispy mulch i have no idea :( i'll ask a beta friend I guess.
Food made out of fire

Same, for me the 24hr have past, im worrieng
We finally make Krill sushi yes
But it's on fire
Hufff yea same
I hope I'm getting to test it though
Ahhhh
Aight
Chat has finally cooled down
:SkyWhew:
A post race concert hall for the musicians in sky to show off their skills and skykids to donate their own candles and hearts (with a cap) would be an awesome way to earn candles and entertain the masses 👀
soo i joined beta recently is there anything i should know lmao
crab cakes .
Also I’m sure some of us would’ve already thought of but like little companions like little pets for our skids. (Plz pet crebz)
Krill sushi shaped fire

It has officially been 24 hours
I dont think google is gonna recognize I'm a tested :stickerGloomy:
Same. This place is a lonely desert. I joined in live afterwards and kick into a party at home. Lol
baby krabs
What if every year, there was a bakesale event
hear me out, sky kids could get different ingredients to make cute foods, and they could earn hearts 👀
There will be more invites in the future, right?
I think we gotta wait even more now 
Imagine if we can make sand castles in Sanctuary Island 🏝️
Yeah but it could take months
what happens to the creb when u fly, does it run along on the ground or would u carry it? or maybe it'd ride on ur back like a little angry backpack?
yeah they send out waves when they need them (but you gotta be fassst
)
For a second there I thought ktjin changed her name haha XD
Welcome to Beta! 
You can see the recent updates in #beta-announcements as well as some known issues in, well, #beta-known-issues . You can see what you can test from reading those two usually, but generally speaking just play the game like you usually would and report any and all issues you come across 
From my experience it’s a tad but lonely. I’d get the chibi mask first so you can access all areas because the servers usually will put you by yourself. Try and friend people as much as possible! Most are live vets and very friendly (the translation feature will be your best friend) deer mask and ult umbrella are red flag items ! Report them!
Crab cake shaped fire 
and krill smoothies
This afk system is slightly dumb. I agree for the tree but what about the poeple who are holding hands with their friends and have to go somewhere for idk 5-10 min or just have to go afk, they won't be able to get any candle lights at all, it will only make people do candle runs alone and I feel like it will slightly kill Sky.
This is a opinion.
.
was there a fight because of this? is so my apologies
Plz don’t start
The afk system timer will change in the future. It's 2 mins for testing purposes
PLEASE, FOR THE LOVE OF EDEN PLEASE DON'T RESTART THE AFK SYSTEM CONVERSATION
Umm might as well put this in #beta-feedback because here the chat is cooling down from it yeah
Made out of fire.
ᵃᶜᵗᵘᵃˡˡʸ ⁿᵛᵐ
You know what to do, feedback time! I agree, It Will ruin Sky and ubers
and sprinkles! 🥺👉🏻👈🏻
Also remember to pick up your office cape and Shepard those who don’t have it yet!
shepard??ojihujgygvh'
Dude my Google hasn't even loaded it up for me to install yetttttt😭😭
i'm trying to test out more specifics on the afk change, but my uber moves between realms so fast that the timer resets before i can go afk 
MADE OUT OF FIRE.
wait what shepard?
I give up the beta Google hates me
Tbh i don't like the idea of having an afk system. I rarely go afk for like 2 mim to get some water but it's like taking our freedom. Just knowing that i am constrained to be there and move the screen it's kinda disturbing. I'm against the idea of people sleeping in sky and getting free wax but this tree will go away in 10 days so i don't think it's necessary for this system to be implemented.
Lolllll that’s is reallyyy fast
NOTAGAIN
I want to get the Office cape, but I dont have vault yet cause yesterday I didnt have much time, I'm still in forest
NO NO NO NO NOOOO MORE PLS NO MORE
okay guys okay,
but just listen
crab dress up 😳
MADE OUT OF FIRE
Dang can I join you guys’ group 👀👀
Same, dont lose hope, it could take a few days (although im about to give up)
LOL
vault is miserable. Nobody is there. I just sped through it bc there was no ppl to get the doors unlocked. I have none of the spirits
I feel like beta chat has calmed down a bit

I feel the same, I'm trying to keep up hope
Don't get discouraged about Android beta testing guys, it's just a slow process
the beta survival pack really includes a chibi mask, office cape, a few friends and an appetite for chaos 
YES.PLEASE YES.
EVERYTHING MADE OUT OF FIRE
Btw how often does beta have new players? I’ve heard some people joined about a week ago?
True, but I want my Office cape 
That’s why chibi is the first thing for beta... finding other players can be difficult but you can still navigate the game solo
My message telling google to wake up and let us install the beta was automatically deleted.. slowmode pain 
Welp the best way to get through Vault is to glitch since beta is so empty so yeah if u wanna buy cosmetics suggestion is go buy chibi mask first
sad creb hourz
The people who managed to enter the beta with Android have no soul
Invites went out yesterday 🙂
You can discuss it here, but most of it finally died down and now people are a little skittish about another long and fiery discussion
Of course we should discuss here, but we've been discussing this topic for quite a while now and people would like to move on from it
to be fair that was me 2 invite waves ago
I now know why it has calmed down- with that slowmode we now have slow chaos

#beta-signup-info it used to be one season one invite wave, but due to the changes of google or some other reason, it depends on how many players are inactive and be removed from beta
@knotty dust, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Wait you get the chibi mask in beta???
Whirthun is scary when he's serious 
going to eden now so I can get it!
How do you get to the main tree?
you can buy it yes, you don't get it for free 
LET ME JOIN U
How 🥺
Honestly I think the main issue here is just that it's hard to really discuss these things in a chat that's going at warp speed. It's important to voice opinions on controversial changes, but with so many beta testers and such a divisive topic it can go very quickly.
I'd wonder if the Beta section of the discord would benefit from having split discussion like how Live does; where there's one large, main area like #general-sky-discussion and a small offshoot like #cozy-sky-discussion but in this case maybe the offshoot could be more tailored to longer-form discussion with a large delay between messages to try and slow down the pace a tad.
@rain mantle, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Rule 1 to survive beta: buy chibi mask first 😅
I'm going to do stuffs, have fun guys 
Or horde a bunch of chibi spells... I’m looking at you my inventory with 50 chibi spells
You're right, I understand
I don’t have chibi mask and this is my second wave- I survived till now without it 
Beta is usually slow, having 2 testing discussion chats isn’t really necessary
pspsp off topic but wanna be sky frens on beta?
I agree, not everyone was part of the previous discussion and people should be able to voice their opinions here anytime as long as it's constructive. everyone else just needs to try to keep a level head too
omg I would but I am getting ubered and we are already in aaaaaaaaaa can we take the time limit down again aaaaaaaaaa
ok im sorry if im startign an argument or whatever whut uh what is the afk thig?
or have a bunch of friends who have one 
its ok
remind of some friends who said that the season will come full of bugs TGC I want to see good things without bugs 
so. leaving a music sheet thats over 2 minutes long playing prevents you from going afk, but just leaving an instrument out does not, since it automatically closes before the 2 minute mark. not worth it as a work around since most music sheets are super short
Sure! 
though this is frustrating and all it can and will change, could never go Live etc etc
Theyre also humans who make mistakes, not everything goes right. Pls dont blame them, they will do their best to fix it
Opinion: Afk thing should only be until day of bloom ends, since that's the thing that caused the problem in the first place + will only stay for 10 days
From the looks of it voluntary, the team does seem to want to push this to live, just the specifics — the length of the timer is what they are debating right now
alternatively, resize until you're almost chibi size and can do oobs! (however, there may be a side effect of looking cute all the time)
I've been in beta since last June and have never gone to eden due to laziness so i can't get chibi, so this was my solution :pFIRE:
It was that damn tree that started the whole thing

Time to get the saw again and cut it down 🌳🪚
new beta moths, what have you done so far? any bugs spotted? 
it wasn't me but my friends I even like the bugs 
Yes! I have found a few actually
I have been harassed by escapee crabs
A HAUNTED tree,don't forget.
thinks back to cursed forest tree in temple
Im still waiting for the app to be downloaded ;-;
Asking again: can the new android testers download the app yet? 👁👁
I can't wait until google lets me become a beta moth
so excited to go bug hunting, but it's been 24 hours
Yes, but not as much as I thought I could find
Damn mr.beast and his #teamtrees 
I’m too scared, this could mess up a LOT
I tried to get very close to chibi size in beta (also because in live in very tall so I wanted to be short) but guess what- I TURNED SUPER TALL

@spark lance did you know that mantas are vegetarian too?? 
just wanna know that im not alone. are there still android users with google not letting them into beta? 
I think the AFK system is only going to work when players feel like they have other easier ways of collecting candles? Correct me if I’m wrong but the majority feel like the chevron system isn’t enough for you to stop going on afk ubers? Currency system needs an overhaul
I did not know that skybot but thanks anyway lol
Omg,the bio police comin' 
RUNNN

that's possible?
never knew you can chibi fall without chibi
Yes
Yes, because everyone loved this idea.. no one just wanted to fix the new candle system first Nono.. so much for feedback appreciated 
Okay messing around in the treehouse I have found out that skids can dive
we are suffering from this I hope it will be resolved as soon as possible Google accelerates there

yes, we get diving boards in the treehouse 
same im waiting
the dive emote icon looks like jazz hands and I’m angry because I have a spirit OC whose emote is jazz hands and the icon looks near-identical to theirs
[Edit] sigh
redesign time, hhhh
Oh dear. :( Google being a turtle again. Hope it works out in the end. 
don't forget the gigantic swing
Someone better ping me when we (android users) can actually download the beta because I will YELL 
I'm honestly loving the giant swing
Is the trumpet supposed to be part of the ultimate gifts?
I joined beta when I didn't even get discord yet. Wich means no links used

Giant swing is way better than purchased swing
I want new Gringos friends in my constellation
yeah hope so....
||hope google didnt commit oyasumi||
(edit) OHNO TREE-
can i ask smth about the upcoming season's spirits?
do we need to buy the adventure pass for the green cape?
Idk after all this discussion, I’m feeling kind of numb to the afk change now..
I got accepted as a tester but the app won’t down load ( was I successfully at being a beta player or not ) lol it’s driving mr crazy
I just realised assembly only has two capes and I’m surprised more people aren’t taking about this, considering as of right now they both are behind ap, which might change, but also might not 
Really I think we just have to wait for when TGC updates Beta to give the AFK timer a duration that matches the actual planned length of time they want rather than the 2-minute test period.
yep, but remember that it's still in beta and is subject to changes
I wish I could download beta now on Android. Its been 24 hours and still can't. 😪
there's so many props the capes have taken a backseat 
I just got extremely lucky I got in beta tbh like no waiting just dive in quickly
@hidden trellis Google just commit ayo the pizza here
I will have to go to the Google company

Season of Props 
still cant download beta after 24 hrs 
Imagine eating while on cr and you have to keep touching your phone just to keep the light.. yuck 
Lots of things to put on our backs- honestly a bit exciting. I do personally hope not too many like give an advantage/big use cause I feel like that makes it a bit unfair 
do we need to buy the adventure pass for the green cape spirit?
pain
ye but pass is free 
In beta
It's fine, that's what's been happening to other android users too! Just gotta wait for it to fix itself 
I just want a cape with an actual hood that goes over the head, imagine 
get me the manager 
Hey so idk if this is considered beta content but I heard tgc was planing on releasing an afk wax limitation which is still in the testing phase - tbh I don’t feel great about this I wish they would just put the afk ban under the blossom tree - but what do you guys think about this? 🥺
Google needs Karen
LUCKYYYYY......
i have been waiting for like a day....
also i hope tgc adds basils to game or atleast flowercrown seperated from the hair
LET ME INNNNNNNNNNNNNN
I have to climb vault all over again and I just wanna get to Eden and ||die||
I feel like they can just make you stop getting wax from the tree after you get a certain amount from it that day
I was going to submit a feedback so glossy cape could have a hood that protected from rain, now that they changed they cape, I dont think that would fit
just turned 24 hours ahhhhhhh

Or just stop the wax from the tree?- it's not much anyways 
oh yeh that would be really cool! but i talked with my friend about it once and I think it would be very janky. you can't wear basically any hairs with it bc it would cut through it, and it would stretch weirdly with emotes...
Same here, just remove wax from blossom tree and honestly that fixes the problem. I guess just that tree made tgc think about candle running and being afk in general and they started brainstorming about what can we do against being afk
How I wish as well. 😔 And yeah really hope google wakes up quickly xD
I think that would need to be a two piece set for convienence and to not make model mesh issues, like a hair piece and cape
the sky community storming google HQ: 





What happened to the beta invite channel?
Honestly, most items already clip weird. The
hair looks wonky with most of the masks for example 
I think certain hairs, like the santa hat from days of feast would go in the headwear aisle with the orange rather than the actual hair. Its something you put on your head, so why make it a hair?
it finished 🥲
We gonna raid it like the Area 51

You have to get the role again to see It, but invites wont come anytime soon
I feel like they should have a if 15-20 minute afk then ban instead of wax restrictions- it would clear up servers and reduce backlash
They set that one guy on fire to PROVE A POINT 
also i was honking at the fifth quest and a pair of kids flew up to me, kinda just stared at me, then laughed and left
why
In my opinion, if this afk system goes to live,the best solution to prevent people sleeping in sky is to crash the app after {30 min?} of inactivity. This way they won't die neither in the rain ecc and you will do them a favor and save some batterylife too 😆
And we're gonna treat it like a witch hunt. Bring in the torches and forks

Put your things in #beta-feedback
yes. also haha wanna add eachother when i zoom into beta too? man, Turkish google playstore is taking longer than normal
True enough, an accessory piece like the hat or horns might be better, but I think if the cape and hood was connected it would cause lots of issues. Or maybe as a button where the Skykid applies the hood
I'm from Brazil slow server

I personally don’t mind someone being afk- I mean for the tree I get it. Remove wax so people can’t sit under it for 9h straight to get wax
But for candle run, I personally don’t mind dragging an afk person around if that means I can make their life a bit easier. And same back cause I had people drag me around as well.
Besides its not like there’s anything to really do while being dragged, so why not multi task and be semi afk
#beta-faq you need the beta invite role
Im gonna head out so I can get to the summit of vault faster, cya!
Yeah I got it now thx lol
Get ready guys we gonna raid the Google HQ

we goin back to september 2019 boyz..
Ubering people also makes the ubers life easier, free battery 
Of course! 😊 Just send in your QR code when you're already in.
Has any Android user succeeded with this invite wave? ):
"Give us sky beta download or we steal your cookies" 🍪 
Exactly, there’s really nothing to see when u go candle running, and talkings gonna drag it down. What’s the fuss about being AFK? there’s not much of anything wrong with it
ight ^^
Yes exactly! And what’s the point of dragging someone that is afk but not getting wax, yes a great battery but I find it more satisfying if both of us gain something from this candle run
it’s inevitable sometimes
it’s by choice sometimes
More like,
"giv sky beta or u...uh...u...u...i dont actually know"
Gosh... hope it's not going to be like before for you folks, waiting over a month for Google to wake up
True, plus this tree gonna go away soon, it's not much time for preventing this to happen. + After someone uses 🔰🔰🔰 that free wax u get it's barely adding up.
In general its takinv so long
Yeah, ubering makes my own cr much faster and if the person plays some piano for me while we’re at it, what more can you ask for
Gib sky beta or we honk you so loud you will cry
Wow people stopped typing

I see why now with 2 min slowmode
This is our life now
We back to ded chat
ohno
sooo, we wanna discuss about afk system again? XD
Quick, someone mention the Afk update to summon people! 
Is the slow mode on because of the afk system?

its been hours lol. i need paragraphs
Woah I have been summoned by afk discussion, hello master attacko 
Yes I can type- no wait not again 2min wait time ahhhhh don’t forget mehhhhh
Also yummy taco
Wanna talk about food made out of fire?
Like...pineapple pizza made out of fire!
#beta-discussion being renamed #beta-afk-discussion soon™.
lemme revive this chat with my holy honk

At least it's not #beta-lore-discussion again 
The afk system conversation has been up whole day! This chat was filled with text walls 
Just finished doing air trial in live
off to fire now
Anyways I missed beta invites yesterday. I didn’t expect there to be any invites for this season lol. Not sure if I should do it since live is a struggle as it is :c. TWO MINUTE SLOW MODE!! Cheese and crackers!
That was a thing? What, did you guys talk about isle's future dog? 
Wanna talk about our cursed demon lord bloom tree
🌳
2min slowmode so kinda cooldown 
how’s it going guys
have things cooled down yet 
LET'S TALK ABOUT FOOD MADE OUT FIRE GUYS
LET'S MAKE THIS CHAT CATCH ON FIRE FOR FOOD MADE OUT FIRE
Soo... Has any new android tester been able to download the Beta App yet or is it just me being followed by bad luck?
Yeah, it's sad they didnt say anything about invites but I Guess they did It so they had more probabilidades to get more active players
Bloom tree actually gives me vibes of a game. if you know it you know it.
Me still waiting for the app to be available in Play Store like

So is it true that the new season is gonna cost regular candles and hearts 
TGC should make more things that you can eat in the game like tea table lol. It’d be so relaxing cuz I love the tea table. Might buy it in live
Wanna be friends on beta

me guessing you do have beta
Only some items that I Guess that they'll stay after the season
I'm actually getting kind of concerned about the wait for beta on google. I know it usually happens but what if there's no room because they're unable to remove inactive people from the beta on android? What if it's actually full? Idk how it works so I'm probably wrong but 
Soon we gonna have some streetfood event at home 👀
Still waiting for Google; makes me nervous
I wonder where all that tea goes to since I don't see any mouth from skykids
Nope still says it’s full grrrrr
I don’t see a blossom tree at home, is that a bug or do I have to do something to get it to appear?
android people who got in, what's your secret? 
I'm listening too
The event is over in beta now
At least we share the same pain... 
I found a hacker who spammed clusters after clusters of seasonal candle packs but they refused to light my candle lol
Is the bloosom tree space going to be removed or Will It stay?
top 3 things that gives us anxiety
- Golden wasteland
2.krebs - GOOGLE PLAYSTORE SHOWİNG BETA İS FULL FOR A WHOLE DAY
also Eli, the tea just spills on their capes
Firework festival in the summer?? Sign me up!!
dying in fire trial in live right now, solo player life go brrr
If you do find out the secret please DM me
On my part, I just got extremely lucky. 😅
I joined when Dreams started so there
Me too!
Go on google,search for sky beta and install it
(FROM GOOGLE PLAY BTW)
me too
- Wanting to vibe to the CR uber and scenery but can't for the worry of being tagged as afk and lose out on wax.
- Getting stuck in invisible walls when glitching
I was lucky to slip in during the season of dreams wave and wasn't expecting the formatting for joining to change
So yeah it all boils down to luck for us xD
"The early access program is still full. Space may open up later" 
Maybe it's just me but if we want to make socializing more rewarding we can have a streetfood van and eat/intercat with some spirit there to get somr free wax once an hour.
wind sounds
Keeps telling me it’s full .... arrgghhhh
^^^
same here 
On my computer it gives me the button to install but then pops up a window that it is full
on my phone its like nope its full. i can download apps from my computer and it goes on my phone
to android players
What will yaal do first after getting into beta?
i will buy the eyepatch cosmetic and pretend cosplaying some game characters lmao :D
proceeds to throw phone for the eighth time today 
Btw will Beta ever kick any active iOS players? I need to prepare my mentality if it happens ;-;
TACO
Sharing 3 or so meals with other players can get you extra wax each day for the event
(Referring to the new thing that doesn’t let us collect light when we’re idle)
“In order to avoid being flagged as AFK, players will need to engage with the world by moving their camera, their characters, or by chatting with other players.”
Does that include playing music instruments? I love sitting under the tree and playing music but it’d be nice if I could collect light while I do it, plus I’m always the musician in candle run groups.. Would I still be counted as idle?
No, only innactive ones
Be a moth and go thru everywhere
offering friendships to everyone to get hearts
I want to do cr with my friend
we want to try all the new cosmetics
Only 8 days left and im a beta moth help
Well it worked for me 
As it stands right now, playing an instrument will keep you "active" and you can collect wax
Getting the beta cape :)
Google is like gacha. Who goes in first and who waits and suffers
I think having the street food event idea in the vault of knowledge would give you enough room for booths and the nighttime atmosphere as well
I’ll tell my teenage sons who take the mick out of me for playing a game lol “ mamma in beta ha ha ha “
I will speedrun being a chaotic moth and hjonk constantly while friending every player in sight 
Google is like the boat when you want to go to ark
That would be so cool! Feedback time 👀
We need this days of festival event or some other name! Cuz the idea of street food with interacting people is just what I neeeeeeeeeddddd
Who wanna friend on beta,dm me with qr 
haha i wanna candle run in live rn but my brain says "S T A Y and chill with those cool skykids"
Can I be friend

hey does anybody have an issue with the first quest with the scouts? i cant seem to complete it
Omg was I the only one who was jealous of the kimono like attire that dream guide was wearing?
It would also be perfect since the next season has to take place in the vault.
Plus another idea is an ocean season in the vault since there's already enough aquatic animals there and it can seem like underwater. Fits a summer vibe and everything
Like keep that cape bloom guide- but gimme those clothes

One of the pieces is oob, under (or rather inside) a tree apparently
You will have to find a work around to collect it for the time being
If the app is available, do we get a notification telling us that it's available?
okay time for me to zoom into sky live and check if sky beta is available for me. also @shadow stream please dm me your qr and ill add you once i get in :,D
A kimono like outfit would be nice 
Yes pls 
omg i died again in fire trial 
ah i see, well im no boundary breaking expert soo im not sure what to do 
And you can also guess that since the season entrances are within or near the first area of a realm, I can guess that like the telekinesis door on the first floor, the entrance to the season in summer will probably be one of the walls on the ground floor
Is anyone still waiting for Android (gotta make sure it's not just me
)
I am!!
Oh 
But I have u all to tell me right?

has beta worked for any android users yet 
Dropped the idea in wishlist already lol
Aww,will have to go soon. Imma go watch a video and then go to sleep. I'll answer dms the next day 
Good night 
||Am i the only one who sees beta as a place where i get free iaps? XD|| just kidding, I also go hunt for bugs 
i forgot how to navigate 3rd floor of fire trial 
ah okay, well i'll try some more later, kinda been at it for a long while already and decided to give up for a little bit
pspsp anyone frens with me should warp on me ppspsps
Ima go sleep as well. Bye skykids and to all upcoming android beta testers, hope it all works out for you!

Fire Trial Guide (by Clement and io):
#completed-sky-fanart-and-creations message
If you need it 
Good night y’all ❤️
Thanks see you there soon sweet dreams
Same to me. Goodnight 
Just go left left left and ⬅️
@slate narwhal it's best to have discussion here. The other channels is looking for group. Yes, if you want to have currency, you would need to CR. Candle packs are disabled in beta since IAPs are free and they want us to play the game to test stuff out, not get a free pass. 
So has anyone tested the new daily light balancing? That’s important to test that too
1 and 0 chevron got a boost. I would suggest if you're a full CR in live to test it out and give feedback.
I think i just took the greatest screenshot I've ever had
I didnt see any changes on the chevron, the only thing I noticed and that I'm not sure if it's a feature or in live is that when the candle wax goes Up the number of candles disappear for a while
More than 24 hours later and I still can't download it, hope I applied correctly 
It’s like that in live , number of candles vanish while it fills up then gives you total
It's my first day in beta. I didn't farmed much. I farmed 10 candles (2🔰) it felt like the cr in live tbh. I will pay more attention tommorow.
Lowkey afraid I wont be in even If it said I was a tester , but oh welp ;w;)
Don't read unless ur ready to be sad
|| Dear androids. I'm an android too. I too enrolled in prophecy thinking ill get in. Guess when i could download... 3 MONTHS LATER.... hope that won't be the case for you||
Ok, Ty!
Im sorry im late with this i was the uber and 😆 feel free to send a qr. my next goal is light speed so afk switch wont be able to affects us

we can be friends and i can help drag you into ||office|| when it works for you
I'm also a beta moth that just figured things out yesterday XD
Wow I-
Good thing I have the lowest expectatives and I'm already assuming I won't be testing for a long while lmao. Can't be dissapointed if I don't expect anything heh 
Google still saying beta app is full arrrgghhhhhh
No need to spoiler office here.
Btw if anyone needs a ride there hmu
i have a question for beta players that i think i know but am not very sure, do all beta players start off as a new player?
I love translator, but for some reason the chineese people I have talked to dont use It and ask me to translate what I say to chineese??
We start moths and get fashionable in 10 min
Hmm the thing is that Android tester can't be deleted so how is there even more space?¿? 
@spark lance, to join future beta invite waves, learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Good question
maybe they quit beta themselves, thats why its taking so long for new invites to come out
same except I only managed to downlaod it yesterday
same but i couldnt download it this time either </3
I feel bad for those who didn't get in 😔😔😔
I'm guessing some android testers are in already? Hopefully some of us made it 
Got accepted with “ you are now a tester “ welcome alert but still no app still full
Guess I'll never be playing beta then, or not for a while
whyyy google play store?
I'm still waiting for Google.
i managed to grab an invite, although testflight was difficult and didn’t let me in for 5 or 6 minutes
has anyone on iOS been able to finish the first task? if so please DM me i keep having that thing with the darkness INSIDE the tree, i can’t even reach it with a chibi mask
Omg sounds like so much fun ....google let me in grrrrrr
Everyone: sob I'm android player and I can't get in
Me, an android player who got in: 
(I'm so sorry my fellow android peeps I will do you proud)
Oof, hope they fix that soon. We don't want a first quests unable to be done 
Tbh beta testing/beta testers are doing such a good job to help things in Live go well, tysm 
The new props are....... Unnecessary??
The torch is very good. It has the DIY look to it and feels like my character crafted it on the go. While the new ground level thing looks like it's made of concrete and isn't easy to transfer and carry around. Besides they both do the exact same thing....
Except one will be free and one will be paid most likely, so the f2p will still be able to get a portable recharger as well, which I think is actually nice 
Anyone here in uk ?
It's been a day since I got into beta but it still says it's full and that I can't download it qwq
Iirc the torch and this new thing both are ap free
Hopefully, though the trees are still subject to another reshuffle
That’s why I said most likely, things might very well still change for all we know 
😔😔😔😔😔😔😔 i shouldn't have read it, but i knew this would be my fate
but get 8 friends together and you can all craft an amazing clubhouse anywhere you want 
If any of my fellow sky kids struggling to get into google beta app eventually get in please DM me
if i understand what ktjn said in the update correctly the items at the top of the season guides tree are non seasonal items. Meaning they are basically like items from base constellations and you can earn them at your own pace even after assembly is finished.
I wonder if they’ll add more things to the daydream forester since that spirit only has the mask and hair, not counting emotes 
so people who missed assembly wouldnt have to wait for the marching adventurer or the bonfire to return to have access to a portable recharge which imo is very useful it charges 1/2 as fast as the torch does but its better than nothing
... Or open a pop up shop in forest and sell wax diamonds and mushrooms 
nope! one of the items in the questgiver tree recharges you
Yes the torch is a faster charger, but I like both items haha
Same 😔
i was low-key hoping for this! 😂 the shelf allowing you to display your spells so you can gift them to your friends
I know thats what i was saying; people who missed assembly would have access to another item that charges even though its slower
It's not about the speed of recharge. Its about how they look n feel
ah, i read that wrong then
although i'm curious to see what the pot will do in the future
Are the tents stackable? 
.......WAIT
TGC WAS THS THE IDEA ALL ALONG???
If yes I'm registering my shop. I'll pay taxes
◖ random but is it alright if I posted some art of beta content into the #beta-screenshots-videos channel ?? I couldn't help myself and doodled a character in the Assembly pants 
I wonder, is there a easier way to get beta? Because I did what faq said, i contacted google, and waited a day 
Hopefully they don’t go through with the afk system that would cause a lot of people to quit.
Well since the pants were shown in the teaser art i think its fine to be posted in #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations
Slowmode still 2min
Yep okay, I take my leave
🚪
the afk system is... not great. I think it would be better to just limit the amount of wax you can get from the tree if what they want to avoid is ppl camping all night there afk.
HOWEVER!! I've been seeing a lot of mean messages and hate about the system towards tgc and I completely disagree with that and hate that. we should always respect tgc
at least the slowmode isn't 30 minutes like that one time 
Hello everyone! Can I just say that I adore the new emotes? The way they are animated is just so fun and it looks really smooth, and the icons are drawn so well! I used to love drawing cartoony stuff and the icons are so good, like the march emote's pretty line of action 
I love you artists! Keep it up
I agree, I absolutely love sky but if they add it I might just have to quit as I don't have the time :'D
i already sent the feedback lol no need to tell me... this is a discussion channel and I'm discussing
My hope for the season is that the quest giver gets that black umbrella as a nonseasonal we see some of the base forest spirits have so all players have access to an umbrella. The downside is it only protects the person holding it so the two umbrellas from lightseekers are still valuable. 
Agree!! A lot of people can’t run and rely on ubers. If people don’t like afk players just don’t Uber them. They can also just fix the tree if it’s such an issue.
Hey everyone! I got the beta and i needed to free up storage. I free up 10GB and it still doesnt let meeee! What do i do 😦
The fact that the tree is also there just for a short amount of time too,.. granted, they might want to implement a system that would prevent a similar “exploitation” (a couple of candles too, that’s laughable) from future events, but it shouldn’t have anything with cr. There’s not really a right and wrong way to cr. 
at least the channel wasn't muted, like that one time 
Muted? 30 min slow mode? 😭 omg
💯💯 they should’ve limited the amount of wax that was being given.
Think it was Sanctuary invite waves that caused massive chaos in the chat? Unsure tho
This is to test other future events and features
Yeah, I don’t think letting us get a candle or two for basically nothing once in a while during an event is such a bad thing
so I tried to contact google play support about the early access thing, they just said to contact the developers, its been 24 hours and I don't think its an issue on the developers end
And agreed, I don't think the afk feature is gonna have good feedback in any way 
And since we are getting more passive ways to collect wax, limiting the amount (like with the dragon) seems like a nice solution
It's legit 24 hour's but Google still won't let me install Beta
That’s basically what I meant when I said “Granted,..” 
Agreed 🥲 we already struggle with candle run two candles during an event is a gift
Just lower the prices instead of the candles TGC
People camping under the tree shows a larger problem that an afk system can't fix. The light given in live is laughable. If someone would rather afk for hours on end for a few candles instead of doing a proper CR in a fraction of the time, that says something about the state of the game that should be addressed with more finesse than an afk system.
i wonder how many negative feedbacks about this afk system 
Usually I go afk when I study and my friend helps me with a candle run..
Mom
- I'm too lazy
- idk how to
write a feedback about the prices, and how they should be lowered instead of the afk system and thingies
Plus I think that in a normal cr, no one really goes entirely full afk for too long, since there are splits, cutscenes, unholding hands and such ?
Which means that if the afk timer is too short, it will still be affecting lots of peeps 
At the end of the day, tgc can’t obviously please everyone, which is understandable, but I haven’t really seen anything that would even give the idea that we needed an afk system implemented to crs.
I think fixing the already existing issues would be a better thing to focus on, instead of trying to fix something that wasn’t broken prior. 
I can't install it either, but I found another person, that installed it on Android
i mean i understand the devs not wanting the game to become an idle currency farmer, but i think an afk timer would only reduce people going with friends on candle runs vs actually improving social interactions
i hope they wont make they game looks too stretchful
Where is the quest giver 🥺
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something, submit that as feedback to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it! 
Honestly, if mini games gave candle wax like the races, I think that’d be a nice way to make people socialise. Limited, of course, but it would be more fun imo.
when #beta-feedback becomes #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
"They're the same channel"
👁👄👁 thanks dad
24 and still can't install beta 
People still struggle to collect wax for expensive ts 🥲 imagine that afk system added I see the sky children disappearing within seconds
I can't either,, I don't think i'll get in lol
can't install it either, and google support can't do anything, Trial of patience
Me and my friends can not install too
Lmao Android step up your game XD
Trial of waiting for beta 
Don't mind me lurking and chatting as if I were in already tho 
I thought, I was the only one, I couldn't install it.
I got it on Android yesterday. I kept having to reload it though
trial of AAA
I will say that the new light system is a good step in the right direction >< I just realized how much time it saved me —- I end up usually only getting 10 candles a day for 14 days and I’m generally prepared for the ts :D
With the new system, now I can do realms I used to ignore before and had more time to do other activities with friends
did something happen earlier? why did slow mode turn up to 2 mins
also the afk system timer is short for testing purposes, I believe it'll be extended once our initial tests are done
Nah, I have a friend experiencing that as well :,,D
Sigh it's already been a day since I clicked become a tester but I can't download it still whyyyyy I was so excited when I woke up this morning
AFK timer system should be scrapped, period.
The chat caught fire and my pizza burned when I tried to put it into the chat oven
With afk penalty come in effect between 1 min 40 sec and 2 mins 45 sec, itt is almost better to have the hold hand function removed to force all to move around by themselves when cr in a group
I shall be more patient for the next days and wait then :'))
If the timer were for 1 hour or more, I think it wouldn't be that bad (?)
New AFK system? The phrase "many hands make light work" is my first thought . Definitely feedbacking on this one ... constructively negatively
They removed the cutscene that used to be there in forests second map :( I’m still so conditioned to press the skip button there, that my hand naturally goes to the upper right hand corner

I think the afk timer now is a bit unreasonable so maybe make it like 5-10 minutes
No, I think the idea of an afk-warning system is good, tgc just needs to approach it differently- someone mentioned having a visual cue to tell when someone’s afk instead and I think that’s a great idea
also why not add that when you're afk you won’t be affected by rain, mud, crabs or krills? That would be amazing 
Mood, we are all ready to tap asap 
This all sprouted from the tree in home, they should really limit that and not have it spread to other realms because in my opinion/experience it's never been too big of a problem, but I respect your thoughts too.
imagine doing that in eden
Hey, guys. I just understood, that i can't get alternative cape( ive got all cosmetics and still constellation has 98% 😭 and i haven't 2 more hearts for cape...
Yeah, honestly the only reason I’m not completely against afk warning is because afk-ing affects ubers as well (opening doors, burning darkness, servers, etc)
But then whats the point at all? I dont really see one in the current 2 min one either even tho its only for testing but what issue would a longer afk timer solve? If someone is annoyed by afk ubers , the afk would stay afk even tho they don't get wax
Leader wouldnt know when will that happen.
If an uber isn't fine with afk players they could just say that
Oh, imagine the afk system only working in home space
Hmm maybe the future passive wax collectings methods will be outside of home, and that's why they didn't limit it to that space only ?
@tender oasis Pinging here cause cooldown oof. The thing is that they implemented the afk thingy mainly for people farming wax at the tree, so it would solve at least not affecting people who go afk for irl stuff during crs (imagine having to leave for 10 mins real quick) and etc.
imagine being punished for having a stomachache in a run you‘re not leading
yeah, which is why i said maybe just limit the tree, because Ive generally had good experience ubering and even if people go afk, they still come back to help and are generally aware. I think it sort of just impedes ability to be able to collect light while doing other tasks since youd have to be tapping the screen every minute or so. If anything, make the timer wayyyy longer, but I still stand by my idea to just scrap it. :p
I thing the afk system is useless. People like to listen to sounds like in sanctuary or rain forest and just stay there and chill. Nobody really complains about afk people. If the players afk no longer Uber them. People are busy while they have a friend Uber them. They don’t have time to check in every 2-5 mins. I’m an Uber and I don’t care for afk players. If you are a Uber that does put that in your description when offering to Uber.
I'm sure they got rich in live because of that wax 🙄
Controversial updates really spread to live like wildfire
What updates?
if ur talking about the sakura tree, i think it gives u barely 2 candles but im not sure
Lmao yeah, 500 candles one night while sleeping 😎
Ahh right tree one is understandable even tho what we did here was really testing the limits and it would t have worth it in the end. Not being able to use a device for a day just to get the amount of wax you can get on a cr

aight, since this all stemmed from the tree, 🪓🪓🪓
Try restarting phone and install again. This happened to me before when i want to update
You get like what 1/1000 of a candle every 5 minutes?... -_-
Also random note, how do you activate the hoops? When other players placed it now, it’s disabled for me so even when I go through I don’t get charged
😭😭 when we cr everyday to afford cosmetics then we take advantage of the tree for an event that isn’t even permanent
I feel like passive wax collection is something they want to come up more often. Or else I think they would just ax the tree.
It takes 8 hours to get 2 candles lmao
Hello! It's been a day and it still won't let me download the beta, what can I do? i use an android device
Darn really? Makes me wonder if this even really stemmed from the tree in the first place...
We're all waiting sadly :'))
Actually, when the tree was still in beta, I tested it out and sat my phone down purely to see how the chevrons were effected by the tree and how much wax the tree actually gives in full bloom.
It gave me an entire candle run worth of candles, which was a surprise to me.
am i the only andriod user who downloaded beta just fine 
😭😭 so a afk system for two extra candles ?!??
they did say its because of people leaving their phones on with sky overnight beside the tree, so its more of the act of doing that (rip those poor phones)
Yeah i was ironic, because the core motivation of this afk thing can't be because of that free wax. And let's face it. Free wax is a myth. I never got any wax from the dragon in the fortune cookie event. And this tree free wax doesn't even count. After a day of cr the candle counter doesn't even mind to count those petals.
In all honesty, there’s almost nothing to be had from passively collecting at the tree, it’s pretty much only looking pretty, but I’d rather hang out in village than the tree or the little saplings where at least I can chat with players
Wait really? I heard someone in gen chat say they afk'ed for 8 hours just to get 2 candles but idk, is the tree not in full bloom yet
I'll also say I'm finding servers nearly full of people AFK at the tree. Which in theory could make it harder to warp to friends who are at home. When six of eight slots are taken up by AFK players . . .
Which might be the actual problem. If I'm being kind in TCGs favor
It did but you can do a cr around 2 h compared to 9+ h afk just to get the same amount. And not being able to use your device and yes last few grey candles were extremely slow...
Seems like drop rate in beta was different with live 
Is the tree is the problem why don’t they just fix the amount of wax on the tree so people don’t have a reason to be afk under it anymore
I know but why would they be concerned over people collecting so few candles?... And then implement a test update that would cut off wax from all other realms and not just the tree... Sorta wack and feels to me personally as if its targeting players who dont have 3 hours every day to spend completely devoted to the screen candle running, both passive and active.
the rates of things in beta is usually different from live. i mean, we get 25 seasonal candles a day compared to 6
Ye its not in full bloom in live yet. Its gonna grow much bigger.
And my phone sat for about three hours while I did house cleaning, and I came back to my phone and the tree gave me about 19 candles and I was down to no chevrons.
Also, I only did this once purely to test it. I didn't repeat this.
Why are they implementing an AFK system because of something that's a limited feature (Wax from the blossom tree)?
Actually yes, quoting Ktjn: "This behavior is socially disengaging and takes away opportunities from players who want to chat and connect with others who have come to admire the tree."
So yeah, hoping for a longer afk timer to not bother in crs but also solving the issue
Sometimes my friend will drag me around on candle runs while I do school, and what I’m reading about this new afk update is helping your friends who are too busy to focus 100% on sky are gonna be punished cause they are also trying to help their real life, isn’t getting unhealthily addicted to sky was what TGC was against? Isn’t that why they introduced the chevron system? Cause they didn’t want people to be glued to sky to get candles all the time, so why are they making it so you have to pay attention to ur game so much? I don’t have beta but I’ve been reading the messages about this system
I was happy to have my first interaction with a older beta player until I lit them up and saw

I’m not exactly new to beta rules, reported them already 
is there acutally only 7 days left for the season in beta?? does anohter season to test start soon then??
seasons are typically shorter in beta than in live. we also can get very long breaks in between seasons, usually a few weeks to a month or so.
maybe instead of complaining about people afk-ing under the tree, take the tree away and let us play the game how we want to play it 🙄
There will be more passive ways to collect wax in the future, as said in the vid about the daily light system update. So they might be thinking ahead for that
ah okay thanks!
How about an afk timer for only passive wax areas and not running with your friends 🤪
They’re so generous with the items for free this season :O all the props save the lamp light thing are free 
What I keep seeing is the tree is the problem due to more afk players wanting to collect an extra two candles. They could just get rude of the amount of wax from the tree.
Well then implement THAT system while that passive way to get waxes are live
Yeahhh I second this. I'm not a fan of the afk system either,, if it causes so much trouble just remove the tree wax lmao
This feature might never make it to live either, due to how much negative feeback there is about it.
i’m not too fussed about not completing the season in beta, considering i’ll have a better chance at completing it in live..
i didn’t mean to type beta twice, i’M TIRED-
If tgc has 50 million players and each server has about 8 people, does this mean they have 6250000 servers? How does this work?
it's not literally a machine for each server
Is there any passive way to get waxes EVERYWHERE except homespace? No? You come along with a friend right?
Then don't include every realm from this AFK system.
Overall it's very nice how TGC has the beta program and listens to the feedback. Makes the game feel more alive and having us involved improves everything
😭😭 but the amount of times I’ve entered an empty server.
say if the afk system is upped to 1 hour, is it still bad?
I can't really leave my phone afk within the time frame cuz of the following reasons:
- random wind wall
- server split
- crabs
- krills
- cutscenes
- gates
- big plants
- Daily light made me picky on which realm to cr
am not sure if these reasons also apply for others but it certainly does for me, so I periodically check on my screen
(just adding this cuz slowmode)
ufopigeon yeah it appears to be like that now and that's the reason for all the heat in this channel. lets send a feedback may be they'll exclude candle runners later on
This is completely valid, but the way they decided to enforce this upon people being ubered feels almost like an attack/punishment for not being glued to the screen, Id be 100% ok if this mandate was kept strictly to passive wax areas only.
If the tree is the core problem then the solution should be addressed only in the home space. Kicking people out after 10 minutes of inactivity would be a solution imo.
Btw my other favourite topic, daily light system. It feels better now. I did prairie, valley, waste, vault (not the side maps) plus the end of forest and got close to 18. Zero chevron has a nicer rate at least it seemd way nicer for me as a regular full runner.
still not a fan of the going downhill effectiveness but i think current version is one im ok with rate/ distribution wise.
Or just don't implement any passive ways to collect daily light in the future for the exploit to be eliminated
In the credits they do give credit to AWS, so I assume they might use a system like that for live.
I’m wondering how do servers usually work for games like this? Are servers partitioned.. so in other others instead of 6 mil servers, we have about maybe a 100 that are partitioned into smaller sub parts? i can’t imagine there being so many physical servers
i feel like beta chat is the sky business chat lol
aight, here m8, grab ur 🪓🪓🪓🪓🪓
What we the sky community generally call servers is different from what a server is in a more technical sense. What we call servers might better be called instances, tho I might be wrong on that.
In the credits it's mentioned that Sky uses Amazon's hosting. I only vaguely know how that works but if you're interested that's something you can research
(I've only really ever been trained as a repair technician and networking hurts my head)
It has to be, it will affect everyone else if something goes live. We speak for everyone.
The afk timer is short for testing purposes, we want to make sure things are working correctly before adding anything else.
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I think the problem of the tree is just a stepping stone for what they kinda see and want to punish. They encourage players to go social and now create chevron so you can stop cr and do your work efficiently than leaving a soulless skykid and not touch at all. No? I don't think the problem is only stopping at the tree one.
There is rn a bug with the first quest, there is a missing piece for the object that is in a tree and not outside a tree so it makes it impossible to finish the quest
Sure fair, but I still don't see why there would be so much demand to put an afk timer for candle runners, if the timer is upped to 10-15 minutes, its more reasonable, but at the end of the day my personal opinion is still that it feels like an odd implementation that becomes null with the more time given for someone to qualify as AFK if that makes sense. At one point, its too short, at another point, it becomes so long you may as well not have it anymore. That goldilocks zone is going to be weird to find, and more of a hassle than anything. But I get your points too.
It is possible, you might need a friend to get it done!
Afk just in the home space is pretty much the best outcome since ubers and all have afk players that may be just watching the screen until they are needed to light up 2 player doors or such
it's been 24 hours and I still can't download beta
why can’t they just ✨get rid of the wax from the tree✨
guys did you see seasonal candles in all realms today
There's no tree in homespace in the first place now
that seems like it would solve it, wouldn't it 
I have no friend in beta ;-;
🪓 the tree, lets make some bonfires for everybody /jk
I think it's not just only about the tree ig?
yeah but the whole thing started from it, they didn’t have issues with ubbering until now unless i’m missing something
From what i understand, all they are asking now is for us to test if we can get wax after being idle
🪓 I'm in
yeah but it started with the tree. at least the post says that it was introduced bc of days of bloom
yeah 15-20 mins seems to be enough for people to touch their screen and go back their other tasks,
How do you even get a wax while being idle without the tree
I really want a bonfire
wait- NO 
I dont like that people clog up TGC's server resources by sitting under a tree for 8 hours straight, but respectfully I don't think normal players should have been included in this at all. I do stand by believing this mandate should be enforced/triggered only when entering an area where one could passively collect wax. At 15-20 minutes, people are assuredly touching their screens with running, may as well not really even have it anymore in that case.
How does it frees the servers if people don't collect wax after being afk 20 minutes? The people will still be there although they don't collect wax.
I'm not sure much but I can't say i don't like the new system, tho the time can be 10-20m
I still want to sleep under the tree anyway because its pretty 
Y’all I didn’t think I could love hide n seek spirit more but I’ve been proven wrong. Chibi mask, dress, and now a chibi spell so I can do the first challenge?? Say no more! How do I do the chibi fall there??
i haven’t gotten the dress yet but it sounds and looks adorable
So u being idle for some minutes that u will be flagged AFK, then u move to candles near u. Can u get the wax from it? Or are u still being flagged AFK by not getting the waxes?
I actually forgot that beta has the dress 
any luck with downloading beta, android kids?
XD love the New update.
I’m actually in the beta rn 
Understandable. BUT most likely people that are that desperate to get 1/1000 of a candle sleeping under the tree will probably act streetsmart and get some macros to push on their screen while being afk.
I think 20 mins is enough to; repel people who afk overnight, not be too harsh on afk runners, and sorta help people be more interactive (is one of the reasons they believe should happen)
That would get them banned from the game
i agree! (i dont have beta but i saw a video)
If they really make it alive, I will miss the day I lead my friends while he is doing his things irl. The conversation will be like "Sorry ,Afk !" "No more than 2 mins , sir 👌🏻"
2 minutes is just for testing purposes, don’t think too hard about the time we have right now
Hey guys which person has the season of assembly blue backpack??
How can tgc know they are using such an automation?
All of them
guess i won't be dragged anymore 
They won’t tell bc ppl would get around it lol, but they do ban anyone breaking tos
Hey what is code for this beta testing for IOS
Beta has been full since yesterday
lmao, what if when the system detects you becoming afk under the tree for an hour a krill just rises up under the tree and krills you

Manifesting that I wake up to a beta download on Android tomorrow morning
please Google I'm on my hands and knees just let us in
They can just put the tree in red rock rain and no one will want to be there for long 
I got the ios and Android's beta identify,but I give up one on iPad and just keep Androids',I'm very regret now
quick way to solve the afk thing if you really are busy: place your device in a place where your pet often walks by /j
or at least i have my siblings to move my screen when im busy but the afk thing is rather irritating if people dont have pets or siblings who are wiling to help and really are busy
I can already see the bugs on that 2 min timeout shutdown

I still see absolutely no advantage for the players or for TGC if the AFK system is implemented 
can someone come with me to test the afk system?? tried asking #beta-looking-for-group but it’s so empty
WOAH THE TIMER HAHAH I guess the ranting was too much lol
Nooo please because sometimes i just like to sit in forest and look at the rain or sleep in forest to listen to the rain
then u cant relax in the game
The question is it worth to spend time tracking this people for such an insignificant reward when there's so many real issues in the game that needs to be addressed.
Off topic, but is the “dress” from hide n seek spirit supposed to have like a line down the middle? It makes it look like shorts 
If they wanna discourage overheating devices then maybe have the app auto close for those inactive in the game after an hour maybe? with the game prewarn you beforehand. An hour timeout sounds okay because people who get ubered for cr then to check if they need to return home after a end to a realm cr anyways. Just my opinion
Idk why are we upset about the afk thing. Sky is already pretty effective in making sure we engage enough with it, using various methods such as total server switches, handhold breaking doors, windwall hitting separations , loading zones throwing your friend into oob. 
(And most importantly... Crabs)
throwing your friend to the krills 
Idk if you have read the idea we had earlier about a streetfood event. But the point i want to make is: instead of creating events that can generate issues in the game, we can have a different approach. Such as our example, a streetfood van u need to interact with once an hour to get some free wax. This way we don't have to worry about people occupying the servers and sleeping in the game because it's not worth it and people will be forced to interact with something other than wax flying around.
I woke up earlier to check if I can finally download beta since it's been 24 hours
I'm now crying
But then u cant sleep at forest which is fun
i to with my friend in oob all the time and then u cant just sit and enjoy realms and i thought sky is suppose to be relaxing and then u will be scared sky will make u exit the game and u are not even doing anything bad i dont see why its a problem
and forest has really cool rain sounds and me and my friends like to sleep in oob and sometimes i leave them in cool places and its funny when they wake up 
anyone else thinks maximizing players in a server will be more fun?
like more than 8
They’re saying for event cases not what they’re doing now. The afk timer would affect all realms in cr run not just events
It is bcz we would be forced to press a button once an hour to get some wax. And people would react differently to this kind of pattern.
Thats the point , they dont want you to overload their servers and also allow you to afk for long period of time and ruin your device's battery. Id advice maybe look for sky forest bgm and play it on the background instead if you want rainsounds 
And also anything to popup on your screen when u are trying to enjoy playing sky to warn u i think will just be scary and ruin the experience of game and make it stressful 
Aren't we going to win a seasonal heart to test the mask? Is the trumpet really a final gift?
just search RAIN then go to sleep wile it's playing

I think the 4 ults could be their final verdict , but thats just what im getting 
we ought to have 4 ults, so yeah I think that belongs there
Yes exactly. And probably people will be discouraged of using macros or any other tricks bcz it will not be worth the effort.
Sorry i just thought it was cute when i wake up my friend is still sleeping next to me in our favourite oob and these are my favourite memories in sky 
the biggest question is how the seasonal hearts will be distributed
If u already buy ultimates before the prices adjusted, unfortunately u can't get all ultimate gifts (no compensation in beta)
There are 4 ultimate gifts now
1❤️mask
1❤️pot
2❤️trumpet
2❤️cape
someone said the spirit is permanent does that mean like other season when it ends it will be permanent, we can keep coming back and buy the cosmetics using normal candles and hearts 
Maybe a soft vibration and the screen slightly darken out saying "You are feeling sleepy...", Then you just need to tap the screen to disable and reset the timer
And yeah i understand that it brings a lot of good memories but i think we can try to see what tgc's good intentions were
1+1+2+2
The season guide is permanent (note that they sell props with normal candles n hearts)
I noticed one of the shelf pieces is in the tree is there anyway to fix it (besides Chibi mask?)
Guys imma 😴. Have fun and be constructive. 
The shelf could be used to change clothes/accessories anywhere
Hey, uhm...Android still can't download the Beta or just me...?
This whole thing
Good thing is that everything is still being tested so let's hope for the best
Btw, since I can't try it myself yet. Does having chat open (without actually typing) but with your skid having 3 dots count as interacting? Does the afk thingy still affect while doing that?
Although, idk what they meant by this change will encourage players to be more socialize
I need a candle to even chat with strangers , I dont know why it was even a thing to even require a candle to use the benches to talk :pThink:
I have to spend to even socialize , lmao
same
Nope. You have to physically press enter for you to not go afk. Just leaving it open or even taking too long to type can make you go afk
things is although i dont have any friends in beta i can already see what will happen when it come to live.
because most of my friends are on the other side of the world and when we do candle run together almost one of us would be afk due to chores or irl tasks. i've once had a friend who went afk for a whole hour the day before ts came because they were really busy with their homework due the next day but they really wanted the ts.
but the thing about candle running is that afterwards it feels as tho the stress of trying to get candles is gone. so we would then relax and talk to each other afterwards as a reward. if the afk thing is indeed implemented in live, it would greatly affect the after time with friends. because it's not like people are going to socialise a lot DURING cr except holding hands.
also if this afk method does indeed come to live. i would rather do my own candle run than be afk and candle run with my friends, thus the opposite of what tgc had planned. thinking as a whole, a lot of sky kids would leave the game, esp if they were alrdy bored and only in it for the cosmetics. if they were to stick with the game, the candle run buddy system would eventually crash and crumble, thus there would be next to zero social interaction. tq for coming to my tedtalk
i think it would be better if TGC make the benches don't need candles to chat
a lot of moths kept using their candles and in the end they ran out of kendols
is why I always place a table by prairie so they wouldn't spend candles, but that's not a solution
i still cant download beta omg
Same
I.....realised how this new system is gonna encourage me to just solo run more. Don't know how to process that 
Also heavens. Slowmode rocketed ;;
But i need hearts to buy table, also uses currency
For a game promoting friendships and socializing , it sure needs a lot of currency to even talk to someone :pFIRE:
google pleaseeeeeeeeee
the whole beta issues with google is annoying but it will fix itself eventually.... hopefully
🇬

Google: no✨❤️
🇫 
yea its why I said it isn't a solution
well being able to unlock chat with someone is like 7(?) candles worth, that or qr which needs prior chat on a table or bench
but for you to spend so much just to have a wee chat on someone gives it more weight

Controversial opinion maybe, but if tgc wants the game to be more social one big way they could do it would be by raising the server player limit for double what is it now or more, at least at home and social areas of maps
Phone go boom 
laaaggg

Put 8 krills in one server instead
i agree that it costs a lot to open chat the normal way (no qr), but i thought it’s bc they want us to hv some sort of privacy, esp around strangers we dont rly know? idk.. personally i hv times where im glad they can’t see my chats when im talking w irls
some people also don't like to talk due to language barriers or something else and rathers prefer to use emotes
there is a reason chat is a diverging branch in the friendship tree
PUT KRILLS IN HOME AREA PERIODT 
The chaos in this post is too much
We had a specific build back then we had to dress as base game moths entirely unless our friends phone just crashed or became a picture slideshow instead of a moving game.
Krills appear when you go afk periodt
I'm going to call Krill to hit Google Rummm

Im fine with the private chat unlock through friendship tree, the thing i dislike is the inaccessiblity to even get to know someone first before spending currency on them
thats what i mean 
KRILL CHASES YOU AND NOW YOU RUN OR YOU GET YEETED 
new treehouse has lots of free tables
Table is good investment 👍
Next day, their one of the AWS server burn down
yeah I uber and get ubered a lot by friends that we both know don't share any language in common, so we don't unlock chat and emote a lot. Maybe tgc could allow emotes to be seen by other people when you're being lead instead of just seen by the user. I wouldn't mind spamming confetti the whole ride
the table was quite useful when I got it,
platform uses as well as chat, but all that changed when feast table came
Yeah, which costs a candle to even use it and its time limited. Its a game which encourages socializing but i need to spend to talk to a stranger
And to definickly : the point im making is that i need to spend to chat , i need hearts for a table
I still need to spend a candle for it no? If candles are a precious currency its a waste imo
Krill?
what if were AFK and a baby krill attacks us little by little and by time it grows UNTIL IT ATTACKS YOU IN PRARIE 
Guys is the new AFK system going to come to the Formal service now?
U spend one time for table, public benches requires u to refill and refill
Pov: you feel asleep in prairie, after you wake up, everything's burning

Thats isnt a good thing , a clueless moth wouldve just keep spending candles on benches to talk to strangers , or they wouldnt even realise the game is multiplayer from the start
ooh, i see what u mean, especially if you’re both moths and neither hv the candles nor the table to chat, thats what u mean right? in that case, yeah it is a bit annoying 😔 idk whats the reason for the chat benches needing candles
A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!
or notyet still testing
I must've been really lucky to find good mentors to teach me
proceeds to act like an npc in isle

I remember going with my fellow moth friend into the portals to various social spaces and back home all the time just to chat 
Looking back now it was like putting effort to grow a friendship 
ahah yeah I already lag completely alone and can't even burn plants. At least with more people we could suffer and cry together 
they need to give themselves time to find fixes and upgrades for the lag
All im suggesting is to not have to use candles on public benches
Thats all chat
i still do this all the time whenever there’s a sit with stranger quest
imagine spending 1 candle to get 1 candle? 
Yeah today I tried to speak to Japanese person for the first time in my life sitting on the bench and I was so happy cause I learn Japanese and really need practice but candle ended and we don’t have any extra candles to refill it T_T she was a moth and I was totally candleless.....
whats everyones favorite emote this season?

i loveee the face palm and disgusted
Google Pray
mayble they'll add a patch to remove candles in benches all together onces assemble is out? that or if they kept the candles on the benches it would up the value on the assembly tree and players would me more willing to go there cuz free chat
face palm is so good but if anyone did it to me i would cry
I'm not sure if i understood this correctly. By this you mean that the developer has the ability to record/view our screen session?
Maybe just maybe...
Public bench without candles will make people sit and talk for a looooooong time, occupying the server, making other people not able to sit.
That's why they requires candle. And for long talk with strangers, there is option to buy chat table with hearts.
Maybe.. :pEyes:
The bubble one is my favorite , cuz is so fit with SkyKid act as children 
the first time someone spammed angry stomp when I was still a moth hurt 
now I laugh and stomp back
i don’t think they would want to watch me fly endlessly into walls
if people also use disgusted on me I would also cry
Well people also use table to chat with strangers for a loooong time ,its just thay they have a upperhand to invest in a table after some time, also occupying the server ,imo wouldnt be much of a difference 
I don't think so, but what they might have is data of activity of some sorts. I once contacted them for customer support cause I didn't recieve the daily seasonal of the AP and they sent me like a receipt of the candles collected per day
oooOooOoO pretty bUbBLe
wait i blew that out
wait that means it came from my mouth
when did I swallow bubbles-
the bubble one
ok this makes sense, except they can just have a time limit on the bench i think? like maximum time u can spend in succession or smtg, idk 
I dunno about that
my pain is ENJOYMENT now?!1?2
bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk bonk-
my actual worst fear is this game collapsing from bad decisions alone, it’s my coping mechanism and I can’t let it go
I’m worried sick about TGC’s potential decisions
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Wind Wall ASMR
i come back to this message what is this
Whirthun watching skykids bonking : 
Attacko can always offer you a place in the taco empire as comfort!
it's not the same but, we have free cookies.. 
Is that wind barrier in sky 
True.
Don't forget there's a quest for sitting with strangers in public bench.
If the public bench is always occupied, this quest will be hard to get done.
at least when you bonk into a wall it makes a pretty ding sound 🙂
Honestly, I'm glad Sky means a lot to you, but please - the last thing any of us at TGC would want is for you to be that worried. We value your health ❤️
Whirthum is fake moth.
just a normal day in the sky discord
(or night or afternoon)
Woah, woah, woah. That's untrue and unrelated to beta feedback!
I hope they're not recording our screen sessions, some apps do that without our concent to provide analytical data. Thx for clarifying.
I’ve made so many good memories
In the future when I leave it behind, I want it to be naturally out of naturally fading interest, not out of upset and frustration
the AFK system is a bad idea for player health, and I’m really hoping the team recognises it and reconsiders more than anything
praying to
Someone on beta feedback : tgc, whirthun is sus and is a fake moth
We know you value our health, but your health is important aswell

Hm, this Whirthun sounds like a threat. We'll delete him, posthaste.
Explain to us the Totally a krill role you got there 
Do you think the AFK system could be a net positive with tweaks? I'm just curious.
i thought they were a krill? weren’t* a krill sorry
did you know that this reaction:
is called SkyCozy?
i can’t believe that they named a reaction after me
in my true form
creb
At least TGC worried the some people cr mental health
. Especially for students candle run
That timer is the candle as for now
But that's a pretty good idea
We spend a lot of time as a studio discussing player wellness, and what we can do to ensure that we're supportive of it.
If overheating devices is one of the issue, have the app close after a certain period of inactivity (lets say 1 hour) with prewarning beforehand sounds like a better option imo
Well maybe the ubers could decide if the friends get light or not when afk, instead of letting them drag them all that way for nothing
or maybe just keep it until the end of days of bloom? It i s the reason we have this problem 
AFK system can be turned positive as to prevent people dying standing in rain or dark water or other dangers
in the long run it might cause players to choose doing their own candle run if cr with friends while afk leads them to no candols.
my opinion really but i can see it become a reality if it continues
I’m unsure if there could ever be anything positive about it - the only thing I can think of is for it to only apply to very specific situations, not in a general sense. I can see the idea behind it, but it’s an unrealistic expectation to think that players are certain to be constantly alert.
Possibly a sort of system could happen instead to prevent, say, dying from rain by accident (though it still being possible to if you do move)?
any luck for android users?
Appreciate all of this, btw. We're collecting all of your feedback and sharing it with the team.
AFK systems to solve a problem usually never work. I remember a certain popular MMO used an anti-afk system in their battlegrounds about a decade ago and it was always a cat and mouse game to patch the workarounds. I think the best solution would be to find the root cause of the reason players no longer play and go from there.
Google Play
Who's we? .. is there a lurker nearby 
what if there was a item that was a hourglass shaped like a candle?
and if you waited for it
nothing would happen except for sparkles
can you share with the team this piece of feedback: befriend krebs?
oh my god not a krill
I totally believe that you’re not a krill 
Daily Light is a longterm solution to the issue of feeling the need to candle run. The initial release is just the beginning. That's unfortunately all I can say on that. Your point is a good one, though.
Not a krill... But noone said he's not a crab tho

K r eb
I'll add it to the kreb feedback section.
Please don’t add the afk update to live. If they are having issues with people going afk at the tree and getting lots of candles, please make it so the light doesn’t collect for the tree only, otherwise it just ruins candleruns with friends and people’s free time. Personally, I had just wasted a lot of today playing sky because I had to grind candles while I had my friend over. I know I shouldn’t put personal issues into this, but it’s getting out of hand. I know sky is fun for others, but for me, it sucks up so much free time it’s becoming an issue.
Not only that, but the cost of the cosmetics. I’m off of electronics for every other week, I used to be able to finish the seasons like that, with half the candles. Now, however, I have to use money in order to complete the season. Let me tell ya, it’s NOT recommended if you do NOT have the money. Luckily, I had the money. However, most people don’t have the money or aren’t willing to pay. The prices of certain events, like the days of feast, was just- too much. I had to spend $30 in order to get the cape, $30!!. that was after I did the math, even if I did the candle runs everyday, I still wouldn’t have the candles.
Look, I’m a veteran of this game. I’ve been playing it since September 2019. If i’m struggling with the items, than think about how bad it is for the players that joined later.
Please, I’m begging you, stop making certain cosmetics too expensive. Yes, leave some for the veterans; the new capes are good ones for that. But please stop making this game take up the short amount of free time I have. We have school, we have finals! We have friends! Some people cannot spare money for these kinds of things! I understand you get over a million requests per day, but please listen to this-
I cannot continue going on like this; spending 3 hours every day grinding on sky, plus beta and the money! This is a game for fun, a game of socializing! Not for grinding, not for wasting money.
kinda sus 
krab with hat
I don’t think this should be a thing, I’m thinking of it as a sort of Beta experiment
IGNISSSS
ATTACKO GLOVE GO BRRRR 🤏
also put in: wear kreb on head like orang

We have a kreb feedback section? 
As an incentive to interaction and socialisation between players, sadly no. As a way to improve device/game/server performance, I think yes.
the ability to purify kreb and use them as a recharger thing 
i did not know about this
You should be thinking about everything in beta as an experiment
Meh? When it comes to being AFK, I think it should only apply to days of bloom since the tree caused the problem
HOWEVER
For the sake of laughs, perhaps if a moth goes afk it looks like they're sleeping standing up or something, it would be funny
They probably put the rude feedback in kreb section 
this!!!
in terms of overall enjoyment of the game, i see the afk system as a negative thing. the system itself feels like i'm being forced to play a certain way, which isn't appealing. it doesn't account for social interactions outside of the game itself, like vc and discord messages, or even playing with someone who's in the same room as you. having all of my attention on my screen, especially if i'm worried about going afk every 5 minutes, detracts from some of these interactions. if it must be implemented, there are some ways i could think of that could make it better, which i have posted in feedback already, but i would personally not implement it at all.
hello everyone
i see the channel is chill again after yesterday chaos
A good sleep keeps me inner peace 
Chiller, more of
I think because it's prevent the tree grinding purpose I think just make system to home space only also some realms if similar event was held.
in #general-sky-discussion there was just a wave of hugs where everyone just reacted with
on every text
it was a long time ago idk why im mentioning it now
but it was wholesome and i kinda wanna recreate it in sky
Guys can you please stop ignoring my message, I understand you all have uh- a lot to write- but this is serious.
No need to spoiler tag office here 
how many of the assembly spirits have little cutscenes when you get back 
Really?
Office office office office! The office of the office! Haha cant warn me nowww

does anyone know why I still can't download beta?
A long message like this would be better in #beta-feedback, I’m not sure what kind of response you want from the testers
Idk what do you guys have planned since the short afk timer is for testing so far. But if it was to be implemented, it would be nice to have it be 1 hour or more, which is reasonable to control the grinding for passive wax while keeping the gameplay for candle runs similar to before
How much office could a office office office if a office could office a office
Office office office, I can now tell this name as I want, and ThatSkyMoth can no more warn me, hip hip hip hurray
Oops, my bad 
google 
yepyep, it’s just...jarring
it’s very off-putting
Skybot u here? 👀
RIP Skybot
how many of the assembly spirits have little cutscenes when you get back 
OFFICEEE 
I’m sorry but the ancestor spirit is by far the cutest one. HE EMOTES WITH YOU 🥺 I LOVE HIM 🥺
The office needs an official basement then we can see random spirits down there which represents the mods
This post has been beaned
office doesn’t seem like a word anymore iv’e read it in my head so many times
dudes is there gonna be any winged light in the seasonal area?
Secret totally not suspicious gathering
2 min slow mode is pain....
usually wl is the last thing they add to the seasonal area.. just wait and see I guess
WHY GOOGLE SOO SLOW OMG😭
Should all the spirits be in the main tree house or just the qg and chuckling scout after finishing all the quests? 
let us emote with every spirit (except the ones it’d be out of character for (say, the Prophecy QG)) TGC I beg
Do we break them out or let TGC keep them there- 
could be worse, it could be googles early access program
please

how many of the assembly spirits have little cutscenes when you get back 
3 months 
They chill while sitting on little bean bags, they seem fine

Technically there IS a basement in the office... And there is a krill sleeping there....
WAIT.
WAIT
DEVS IN BASEMENT
DEVS SAYING THEY'RE NOT KRILL
OFFICE BASEMENT
OFFICE BASEMENT HAS KRILL
ILLUMINATI CONFIRMED
I had to stop away real quick, but I did see the messages. Thanks, everyone who responded.
Thank you
I can also tell you all that we are definitely looking at the AFK timer. We understand that 2 minutes feels really bad.
I got a idea while chatting with Luquitas- 
You see the big space we got at home:
Why not showcase like a small piece of the season so the new players have a taste of the season, place a hammock or two or a torch maybe, bring in a small fraction of the tree house to home 
It's a team effort. You all give us the feedback, we're there to make sure it gets due consideration. We appreciate YOU all for taking time out of your day to test this stuff.
thank you long time player for thinking of new players coming to the game
I started playing just a few months short of a year and I love helping moths get enough hearts/candles for the base constellation and ts, and after seeing them running around with their new stuff. It's a precious amazing feeling! 
The reason why I thank you is because I think one of the reasons behind tgc raising prices was ||I may be wrong, sorry|| after vets/older players complaining it was unfair newer players and moths could get cool stuff so fast and they didn't felt special anymore
I want to see my moths looking cool, cooler than everyone else's moths 😎
Sorry you had to learn the...well, hard way.
I’m just glad you are willing to listen as a team.
can we get into ||office|| in beta? if so, is it possible to “buy” the founders cape?
gentle reminder that spoiler tags are not needed in the beta channels 
I mean they should still have stuff that moths can’t afford. I get that, however there’s a point where it’s too much.
Office~ 
this is my fourth time sending this and people are continuing to ignore me. how many of the assembly spirits have little cutscenes when you get the emote

I don't know that I'd call this the hard way, tbh. I've been doing this for seven years (Community Management) and you all are an absolutely kind community compared to others I've been involved with. But, yes. We do listen, even if we don't always arrive at the conclusions you might desire. Your feedback helps us get to where we end up.
may i inform everyone the prices of the last seasonal items from the quest giver are a good amount of candles and hearts- so make sure you save your currencies for then
if this is anything of a spoiler or against rules etc please let me know, i just wasn’t too prepared and had spent most of my spirit constellation hearts on basic cosmetics and have to heart trade my way there 
Eh i don't think devs need to raise prices any higher
Especially with the new daily light system (which slow downs candle forging immensely after 15 candles)
Instead of an AFK system to stop light, how about the "passive" wax requires the player to have interacted instead of a blanket "you're afk, no wax for you" everywhere? I don't know the inner workings of the Sky engine to know if this is possible though.
You'll see soon 
I’m sorry about that, discord servers can get pretty wild, uh. I’m a bit confused on what you mean
You've lurked the discord for seven years? Damn you're talented 
I have a question, after 90 days, does your beta invite, just end-
999 hearts for invisible cape is definitely too much 😔
About the new afk system, maybe only let the afk system work specifically at home to prevent letting people be afk under the tree? (If that mankes sense)
from what i remember, all of them should have cutscenes. however, being in beta means that some things might not be done, are bugged, or are completely missing
what if your chevrons temporarily go gray if you’re afk too long
also I mean like when you finish reliving memories a short scene sometimes plays. I’m asking how many of the assembly spirits play a scene
Am I the only one really confused about the quest givers gifts?
They will stay there even after the season ends i think. No need to rush
I still instead of hindering waxes, the game should auto close after an hour of afk or so
Otherwise, what's the point? Its not like new waxes suddenly appear out of thin air around players every now and then
thank you!!! i’m new to beta “:)
The tree does though (make wax magically appear around it)... Did I miss that was a sarcastic quip?
Ap locked ones are the ultimate gifts. Once the season is over they won't be obtainable anymore.
The ones on top of the friendship tree will stay even after the season is concluded. But to access them you first need to complete all the quests.
bro this cooldown- did the devs add this because of yesterday? pls end :( I can't take it
Its been 1 day, and i still can't download beta 
i completely agree with this
The tree only lasts for a few days after the event anyway. Its not permanent 
technically, yes. you'll lose access to beta if you don't update within 90 days. but we get updates frequently enough for that to not happen
also, this 2 minute cooldown is pretty short in terms of beta. we had a 10 minute one for like, a month
Yeah, it does. Thank you for clarifying
. I definitely agree with that
I just wanted the cutscenes from the spirits for an amv and I think I missed some of them, sorry for asking stupid questions I’m just frustrated now 
flashbacks to General chat getting closed
I would suggest watching the daily light youtube video, again. The blossom tree is just a preview of what they have in store for us in the future of the daily light system. This implies there may be other ways to passively collect wax in the future.
I am this
close to downloading an apk
Yeah i know its not allowed
That’s against the terms of service and will get you banned
er, please don't do that. that breaks tos and doesn't help with testing
If you know it’s not allowed why joke about it
We were told google is slow, be patient 
my friend is really sad because he was really looking forward to it (beta)
Personally, I don’t think the constrained playing could outweigh the positives it provides. If anything, I feel the system is a precedent to future changes that could result in more TGC directed play styles. I think sky is sky because it leaves the player to decide what type of game play they want.
That said, if the timer is for every 30 minutes, I wouldn’t mind and it wouldn’t disrupt my game play. But, it still bothers me that something like this exists :(
Then i still think auto closing after an hour of afk is still better. Keeps the candle system less confusing than it already is, and fulfill the devs intention of not letting devices overheat after long durations of afk
glad i was online when i they opened the invites 
but is the Google play going to allow us to get in XD
soontm
Ngl I got the invite while showering (since I listen to music) and I legit stopped to constantly refresh and get in
Edit: MAN THE COOLDOWN GETS WORSE AND WORSE
Sadly, a system like that could easily be circumvented. I won't discuss the ways, but I already know of two ways to bypass the current afk feature that I will privately send TGC in a future feedback message. (Since you know, things like that shouldn't be shared publicly.)
Complain to Google about not entering beta yet not to the mods
/j
I’m on iOS so luckily I had pre downloaded test flight weeks ago. As soon as I got that ping I downloaded the beta.
i was an 30 minutes late but i have ios so it was still open 
i saw a yt vid about how to get into beta, so i had testflight for a month
This is my first time in beta! The treehouse is so cute and though the quests are a little all over the place, though fun, I love having emotes with the questgiver and the spirits inhabiting the treehouse and also having their own locations throughout hidden forest is sooo cute. Also meeting and befriending 6 different players is something I missed of being a moth. the instinct of BEFRIEND EVERYONE is awesome.
unfortunately contacting google support for this is useless, they just said "contact the developer"
