#beta-discussion
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What's a placeholder now 😭
its probably just something old from prelaunch valley that got reactivated on accident (like the old world quests that got reactivated on accident, or the random light shards that'd appear in the forest temple and prairie caves for players, which is also from prelaunch) not sure for the name, i guess it was something for the old stadium
a temporary something and in this context a name
Hmmm I see. some skytubers really be hyping me up for nothing tho
An important rule in beta: don't get too excited about something unless there's a post in #beta-announcements about it saying it's intentional 
Yeah, it might just turn out to be a bug 
we did have fun with the WL fountain though and I don’t think that was announced
but yeah beta does often get old assets randomly appear that aren’t necessarily new features
WL fountain wasn’t announced in the updates channel, but that one was a particularly weird case since we had a dev confirm its existence and intentional design in here later (the auto-kill aspect of it, not the speed at which the WL were spouting out initially)
Well anyways, it just seems weird and exciting too that they're putting something in an oob (if it's not a bug)
It’s not uncommon for debug or test stuff to get stored in an OOB area in game design, though that one defs caught our attention with how it looked sorta functional
They aren’t, ktjn already confirmed it
The devs will never make oob an intentional feature
genuinely asking, but what about rainbow bridge? when it was accidentally removed, the devs put it back eventually. is that different from making it an intentional feature? if that makes sense
My understanding of that was that the devs try to preserve OOBs which don’t have a negative influence on the main game experience, but they don’t want to put any major game features in an OOB spot that’s not easily accessible
makes sense. thanks!
i can't give an exact answer either, it usually happens around near conclusion of the current season in live
we dont know when the next invite waves are, and most likely wont because people will then camp out, and thats mainly bad because sometimes they do it from the normal time they go to bed to possibly 4am in their timezone 
I’ve been lucky that my wake up time is 2:30 am in my time zone 😆
It says: “With each new Adventure Pass season, we will do a fresh wave of Beta Tester invites to help us test the season. “
Which part of that is unclear or confusing?
No one knows.
beta and live progress cant cross over
If you linked your beta account you will not have to restart when joining again.
Did you read the #beta-faq at all?
Maybe there should be a channel for beta hopefuls/curious folks...
so... #beta-faq? 
No, everything you need to know is in the faq. But generally, people don’t seem to read even that before asking. 
Yea that’s my point. At least they would clog another channel and leave this one for actual beta players 😅
Seriously, it would just be filled with “read the beta faq”. 😂
A discussion channel for people who would like to know about how to become a beta player or want to see the Days of Fortune constellation and stuff like that
@lament mica, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
There is nothing more to discuss. You can read the information that is available or browse the existing channels.
is that another keyword activated command
how to become a beta player
@faint hazel, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
😅
On another note, anyone seen the dragon today?
Please don't spam the bot 
im going to start screaming and crying
uuuh, okay?
uh... you good? what's wrong?
THE NEW CONSTELLATION WAS A GLITCH
SHUT UP NAARATOR
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AHAHAHAH SORRY
well, yeah. lots of things in beta are bugs. we saw that with the old world quests. it just comes with being a beta tester
i had a sinking feeling that it would be, since it appeared OOB and without notice. think of it like the mushrooms at the ark
SURE I GET THE OLD QUESTS BEING REMOVED BUT WHY HE COOL NEW CONSTELLATION??
Because it wasn't intended, sure it would be nice but it wasn't planned and there would be no reason to add it, plus it's a useless script for now
No plans were made for that stuff so
dawg stop yelling 
apparently, its an old asset from pre-launch. so it's not too new. but who knows, maybe something else will come our way soon
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Please no candles in fire trial

old sky is amazing i esnt ig back
they're at the very end of the trial, not throughout, but also #beta-feedback with more in-depth feedback
old sky?
the new candles most likely won't come until the chevron system is ready as well. at that point, we'll have so much wax that we'll hit the hard limit with candles, so if you don't like fire, you don't have to do it! 
my reasoning is because fire trial is pain 
hate to be the "then don't do it" person, but you can live without collecting those candles
but full crs 
i think having them at the end is like a little reward for getting there. it'd be nice for those who like the trials, but you won't have to do them if you don't want to ~~pressed enter too early
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The hardest part is starting! You can do it!
what
a full candle run isnt going to depend on how many candles are in the world, but on how many the chevrons let you collect it seems
are you implying that you farm the trials daily? good lord 
but i want to collect all the candles in the world
yeah, once you hit 0 chevrons, you really can't make any more candles (maybe 1)
It would be good if you express those thoughts in #beta-feedback deli 
ok 
That’s exactly what they’re trying to discourage in the long run, or candle runs will keep getting longer and longer with each update that brings a new area with more candles — it’s not sustainable or healthy in the long run
imagine a 3-4 hour candle run 
that's easily achievable by having a chaotic group, it just drags on and on...
that’s me on a normal run bc I’m slow 
as someone who has experienced a 6 hour candle run with one friend, i agree
How long is your regular one @slim kayak?
You can actually collect 2-3 additional candles 😊
But, everyday 
I play a realm or 2 for 20 minute intervals spread out through the day. I dont collect everything and only run 3-4 realms. I've only gotten to 0 chevrons once before the update to the system
I did Eden, all maps, all trials, and waited for the dragon. If you leave maps with cakes (eg Vault with 7 cakes) to the end it’s a bit faster. I do this daily, perhaps excluding Eden
I might try that, I keep burning myself out doing full cr at once panicking for ts
wait you do Eden every day?!
I just don't have the time to run full runs daily, both in beta and live 
I do do Eden every day. It doesn’t take that long if you don’t collect stars
Wow
I admire your dedication, I hardly step into Eden unless I need ac for ts 
I do have rare days where I spend several hours in the game 4 hour back to back eden 
This is actually one of the reasons why I dislike the daylight system. The blog post said it would help reduce the daily grind, but without doing all maps you’re really short on candles
For now at least. I think tgc is still adding candles everywhere, since their goal is for us to hit the cap without running everything
That would be cool. They can also just ramp up the rates.
Btw, Eden everyday is actually statue Eden every other day. Day 1 - last thing on your to do list; statues/ waiting for death; spirits but not orbit, go home. Day 2 - start your day there, do spirits then go into orbit.
is there really a cape for 999 hearts?
If I did a full run, I wouldn't run eden. I prefer going into eden sparingly cause I love it so much. I wanna keep that feeling every time I go in 
I used to go in valley everyday cause I loved it. But doing so took away that feeling of awe, and now I don't like valley anymore
but I commend anyone who runs eden for candles, I couldn't do that
Yes, the invisible cape. I have it 😁
wow- that's really expensive.
Yea... it also used to cost 99 AC. I was unlucky in that when I unlocked the node, they changed the cape to vault completion so I lost my 99 AC and had to finish vault 
what's AC?
Ascended candles
oh
I spent more time in eden the last 3 days than I did in the last month
since i always manage to run into something there, including it to daily runs would drain me for sure.
(That 99 AC thing is one of the reasons I don’t buy anything in beta, until I have the resource for buying all at once
)
How long does a new player keep the new player heart icon?
i think it just stays like that until they completely fill the shepherd gauge
No, it only appears if the bar is completely empty. Although I dont think the majority of beta testers keep it for long 
Don’t stop believing!
Quick question here, when will chinese new year event arrive in live?? Or there's no exact date yet?
You can read about the event in #news: #news message
For live questions please use #questions-and-help
This channel is for discussions about beta stuff
On the topic of new player icons, just got shepherd. A capeless in home with new player icon should be reported, no? Or is that possible.
When an Android tester opts out, google opens up the slot so one can possibly download beta from that. That being said, most of the moths we see on beta rn are hackers tho.
Well if you deleted the app and reinstall again without logging into game centre it will restart the game. It happens when I bought new device. When I log in Game Center again the new skykid will gone tho
By the way, my friend had the solutions for the Eden death loop. It happens when our screen resolution is different. When we all change to resolution 1 ⚡️, we will all die at the same time. Isn’t this better than dead timer? More feature more bugssss
They were by the cape dresser. I also think a new start won't server merge you with someone until you at least clear isle, no? Or maybe I never stay in home space with a new account for that long. 
We have to change all to same resolution after a loop occured
Didn’t expect it to be related to graphic settings, I’ll probably try it out with a friend later this week to see if this method works universally. Maybe you could also leave it in feedback Peng
You can server merge when you newly start actually. I encountered new moths like this several times on Live
My friend already did, hope they read it . Since my friend and I have different wing count, we also died different time and I will be on loop, once that happen change all screen resolution to 1. It may not work with other screen resolution tho
@opaque yew It also works at the ark, most of the time ^^
Peng you mean even if you die at different time with your friend, changing the screen resolution to the same could stop the death loop?
As long as when you’re in a loop, everyone change the screen resolution to 1 ⚡️ , you will get in the room with the kid
I have a friend who opted not to take any wing from day one. She had a bunch of seasonal items and any item from the spirit constellations that didn’t require a wing buff. If they were flying around capeless then I’d say it’s suspicious. If you report someone and they’re innocent, nothing happens to them 😊
I remember once me and my friend just followed a fresh moth into Isle and stalked her all the way to Prairie temple. To give her confetti and cheers for WL and spirits. That was so much fun
@opaque yew and I just did it. I do it with my alt every week. It works beautifully
Thank you. Will try it out 
If you couldn’t do it, add me and I can show you at Eden next week. I hope someone who is friend with KTJN can tell her too
Suree I’d be glad to befriend you anyways. Will send a qr in DM 
@vapid briar you were working on the death loop so you may be interested in the conversation we had above ☝️
Changing graphics setting to one seems to prevent death loops in eden. I’ve been doing it every week for about 2 months and it works
Yeah, they didn't fly, so didn't report.
when trying to do the fifth quest: "When lost, tap on yourself to call, your light will reveal the way"
Yessss it works every time when looping starts, it might not work with other screen resolution tho , only 1⚡️. I’m skeptical with the new “death timer” solutions. New mechanics may creates new bugs
Oops better not ping devs since it’s not urgent, they work on the death loop in the long run anyways. And it’s also weekend for them.
If you really want to bring this to their attention and get a response from them, you can always try to dm @hardy carbon
can they not just sync everyone dying. like when you start to die after giving the last winged light.
basically how this would work is syncing everyone. when one person gives their last winged light they dont "die" and turn into the blue orb until all the others die
it can take a while for someone to die if they have 10-11 wedges though, while people with 5-8 wedges die very quick
I feel like the problem with that is the same problem with the death loop. if some rando merges with you and is afk somewhere safe then you just can’t ever die. the kill switch is so that if someone is intentionally not dying, they can’t make the whole server get stuck not dying
Yeah that too. Since you can’t ask a rando to sync with you to 1 bolt graphic 
I’m not sure that’s a requirement. My iPad can only handle graphics at zero bolts, so I only set it to one when I’m about to die. I put it back to zero as soon as I start falling. This means I started after my alt and fell while she was already at zero. I’d need to test it tho
The kill switch may be the last resolutions. I hope they will study about this graphics or screen resolution method before implementing this switch, it is already crashing now and new mechanic= new bug
I wonder if it’s possible for Dev to make the graphic in Eden sync by default, or maybe they can start from testing the graphic if it’s the main causes of death loop
If you get someone who falls asleep in pnr, you'd still be stuck in deathloop without the kill switch. I have read one of the Kais like falling asleep randomly in pnr. 
falling asleep in pnr
how
I don’t like the idea of being confined to lowest graphics settings to “sync” with lower end devices on a level that already makes me nauseous with normal graphics.
Uzephi that’s me. I fall alseep everywhere in sky. Just ask the like dozen or so people who found me yesterday. And ask Dark who watched me fall asleep in Eden literalyl 2 days ago 
You'd be amazed where people can fall asleep. 
It happened to me once to fall asleep in Eden social space 
i get people falling asleep in forest or the flower fields before prairie
but eden ? 
I had a 11 hr shift and needed to raid in a different game right after and fell asleep mid boss fight. Falling asleep in pnr doesn't sound too outlandish.
sleep waits for no one
I was trying to get ACs and then I wanted to change my outfit and then I was too sleepy I changed my outfit and fell asleep in Eden closet lmao 😂
any place in sky is a good place to nap, wdym
I fell asleep once and one of my friends came on for the hand hold quest and they DMed me that I was just standing there when I was trying to cr 
I fell alseep on top of my bonfire past pnr
I was talking to Dark then I was in teh dark room
at least you were cozy 
And with company of the not so shinyboi
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Dark is a wonderful friend but she definitely scolds me for not sleeping when I should
so does Aeras
I fell asleep on my friends during a candle run way back when I was a moth. They had no idea reset was at midnight for me, so when I suddenly stopped responding they tried to hit me out of the crab cave with crabs for my safety. I woke up, iPad as hot as a stove outside of the crab cave. I had no memory of how or when I fell asleep that night. 
honestly my favorite sleepi place is the place behind the village entrance, on top of the cave hole thingy
so if any of you guys spot a sleepi skykid near there it's probably me
[i wake up instantly to the jelly call cause that's what my bb wakes me up with usually
]
This was when I was still peppy and woke up at 5 AM everyday. I got like 3 hours of sleep that night. 
Aye, I have their weird thing where I can go for a small amount of sleep and feel like I slept an entire night. 
No need for pity hugs.
I think the worst place I fell asleep was the 8 player gate in beta. There were 8 people and me and 2 other skids were asleep when I woke up and the other 5 were super mad
I felt so bad
Hey, I'm in the beta but I can't update? It's been a really long time since I last played so maybe that's it?
👀
when was the last invite wave you joined?
If you're iOS, I think there is an expiry on your beta opt in if you haven't updated after a certain amount of time. For Android, you only lose access when the wipe happens. How long ago was it?
Like... Half a year... I had to stop when school started
Yeah, we've had two (or three?) access wipes since then. You'd have to wait for the next invite wave.
the expiration date is 90 days. we haven't been testing this wave that long though.
and that's why
Can someone explain the community shepherd program shepherd system?
Oof, looks like I have a long wait ahead of me. Thanks y'all!
community shepherd is different from the shepherd system in game. the #590700594662998016 explains all we would know about community shepherds (yeah it’s vague, that’s intentional so people don’t go faking the qualities just to get an orange name)
oh hmm, I'm talking about the shepherd system in game then
that is also mysterious. what we as players have gathered is it’s a way to help friendly people know who is new and might ened help in game
It's a mysterious system.
In serious tho, we don't know what increases your friendship "guage." Once it's full, you get "shepherd" and can see new players when you're near them. (You see a diamond and a heart inside the diamond)
ah. that's a way to show how friendly you are. we don't really know much about how you increase your 'bar', but we assume that if you are a friendly player in the game, you can become a shepherd. it helps players find moths who may need some help and guidance! moths can't tell who is a shepherd though
the shepherd system is over a year old now, i just realized 
so not much explaining to do, I see
all I've heard I've already gathered from what I've seen
yup shephers was already in the game before I joined beta and it’s been nearly a year! my one year on beta is coming up soon :0 don’t remember the exact date but it was late Feb or early Mar
nope. we only know what we have observed by playing the game.
i think it was added in lightseekers. it was already in the game during belonging when i joined beta. i still remember the green badges
Fun fact abt those badges, it’s a symbol of a new driver in Japan, like a rookie symbol
i don't have pictures of the old badge, moth me was not smart enough to document them 
I remember it used to show everyone who the shepherds were and I was so confused when it stopped doing that
like sometimes I think maybe I imagined that cuz so few people remember it

Funny thing is, the system is in live, just not visible or "active." Probably a toggle when they build the live and beta apps to reduce bugs, the code is still there just not "visible" in game.
well then if it ever goes live I suspect I’ll have the badge already with how much I randomly teleport to my friends just to hug them 
They might do a progress wipe in live for the system if it does go live.
that’s a joke right? progress wipes wouldn’t happen on live cuz of people who spent actual money on the game.
Progress wipe on the shepherd system.
Will the game let you enter a server full of moth if your shepherd meter is full ? I mean compare with non-shepard, they will not meet moth? 👀
idk how they would actually wipe progress fo that without wiping other stuff too
maybe instead just set it up to only count actions from the date that it is implemented. There are people who had shepherd within a day or so on beta so I can’t imagine it will take long for people to get it on live if it ever goes live
At least the adb logcat I gave them for a Vulkan API bug in live and beta when A11 hit had a line that said "is shepherd: true" on the live game. Whether this is that system or not is beyond me.
I did not understand most of that 
The what cat 🐈
Android debugging bridge. It's a developer option to get verbose logging of the system and apps.
Meaning they have a shepherd system in Live but not visible
that part I got. Uzephi already said that earlier. I just don’t get the technical stuff
No need to
basically a logcat is a list of information about crashes and other things that app developers decide need to be given to them when bugs happen in an app
Imagine .... just imagine, the game is evaluating our playing mode, and we were group together in a server with strangers that have many similarities of yours. And shepherd tend to group with moths 👀
i think its just a wave of moths going on, but i havent been on beta since friday
I heard there's a new dress pants, where can I find it? :0
It was added before it was ready for testing, so it got pulled. It will come back in a future update when it's ready for testing.
aHh oki, thankss heuehe
morning beta fam.
Good morning, although I am going to sleep XD
haha go sneep
Hope the chibi mask eyes are fixed
its been a bug since when
the eyes going black in certain poses isnt a bug, its eyelids 
it's creepy and funny at the same time
i think the masks used to do that before the seasonal ones came? what poses other than pray have it?
i think the wise stance level 3 sitting position
wise stance sits, some of the rhythm emotes, i think one of the levels of float, and more i cant remember
i remember after getting the wise stance at the vault library. I tried the sitting positions and was creeped out. the water dripping, the dark atmosphere, the faint light. I was scared of my own sky kid lol
hope androids green skin bug gets fixed soon, in other news... 😔
Emotes are still being animated with blinking functionality in mind, level 1 and 2 of doze off from enchantment has it
Idk why 3 and 4 don’t tho
Also yeah before launch all masks used to have blinking functionality, it got removed with seasons because it doesn’t work worth the seasonal masks
I’m not sure why they had to remove it for all of them tho but chibi could keep it 😔

there were people floating around the home and talking could it be a hack?
skykids are floaty. theres also a bug you can do where you do an emote and can still move around without breaking the emote
could also be a bug where dragon is invisible to you but theyre riding on it, so theyre floating as they go
So I believe there will be a new Patch Update this week at Live for Days of Fortune, Days of Love, and Quests
Yes, its probably the server being not synchronized
Is it a known issue to get a "you've received a heart from x" but when checking friend constellation when you log in, there is no heart? Wish I would have kept that notification for a bug report. Now need to talk to that friend to make sure I read the notification correctly. 
i uh never attempt to collect the hearts so i never paid attention to the notification
id send you one to test but we arent friends yet
Sad thing is, I don't know if it was beta or live as I have a friend with the same name on both. 
Edit: checked both and no heart...
Yeah, I let my socially awkward side come out in beta. You might have seen my chibi butt run away after lighting you to find the nearest oob to fall through.
aww 
i would like to be friends if you dont mind though! definitely havent been too awkward to ask since likeseptember
Yeah, I'll DM friend code. I usually run away during my solo cr runs in beta. I'll make a funny video about it with voice acting next time it happens while recording... Last time it happened, I was chased all the way from the forest clearing to sunny forest. I fell through the floor by the two player door. It was like them going "take my candle" and I was like "last time that happened, they made me say hello to krill. "
hello i have a question, my phone recently broke and is getting repaired. the only problem is that all my data will be wiped from the phone. I have beta on this phone, will i still be able to go on beta??
just makesure you log into the same game center or google play account that is connected to your beta access
ok good, then would i just re download beta on the app store?
Yes, then log into your account. Did you make sure to sync to google/fb/gc?
i think i did, thank you guys :)))
Sorry to ask!How many days are left before the current better ends?
CAN I BE FRIENDS TOO
YYA
i odnt have beta
dm me a qr! lol dm me yourlive qr then
live or beta, i only have lice
I mean Live
u mean current season ends in beta? 20
yes !thank you !
hello! does anyone know where i can get the seesaw?
Days of love ended in beta already, so its no longer in the store
ooh i see, thanks!
Can some tell how to download the beta on iPad
Please read #beta-faq
It will throughly explain how to join beta
@foggy atlas, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
you do have to pay for the first blessing for the days of fortune staff right?
Few questions on the new cr system. Is the daily cap already in place? If yes, does anyone know what the daily cap is on candles? Is the cap on collecting wax or forging candles? If I don't forge all the wax I collected into candles, will the daily cap still reset so I can just keep the red dot on the candle counter? Thanks in advance 
nothing in beta seems pretty down, i encourage to keep questions like that for live <3
i wouldnt know anyone who can answer that
Daily light system is still in it's infancy. It will change drastically before hitting live. It currently will take a full run to even get close to live's numbers and that's after they added a boat load of candle cakes to Sky in beta. (At least 12)
According to ktjn (I cant link it cause mobile) we've always had a hard cap on candles, but have never reached it
#beta-discussion message
Here’s the link
until further notice the spells from the Days of Fortune staff is 6 candles total right??
Ohh so we're still getting less candles with a full run in beta than live? Even with all the cakes? 😱
We finally got near parity,( similar candle count) which is why we have been told by ktjn it won't hit live "for awhile."
Yes the blessings from Fortune Staff are 2 candles each in beta
noice thats all i came for
Discord better be nice and not tag her. Here is the message. Edit: yay, it didn't!
if you edit it pings uzephi 
Did editing just tag ktjn? 
Lol once you edit it it will tag Ktjn automatically. It wouldn’t ping unless you edit your message
Thought I'd be slick and quote the post to easier access, then discord decides to do that.
guess I shouldn't edit quotes from now on.
you can copy the link to the message on mobile if you have developer mode enabled!
I do, but sometimes discord doesn't like going to the linked message on bigger servers.
true
especially on mobile
Ehhh so the star field exploration thingy is just a bug??
hweee
I didn’t know that discord works differently on Android. On iOS the message links work pretty well
Its been really buggy for android lately, at least for me. Sometimes discord likes to mess with the send button and just, delete my whole message
Why when something happens, it's always android
myipad doesnt jump to links sometimes too. justbrings me to the channel
Aeras, you opt into the discord beta program? I don't have that issue on the latest build.
No I'm not. Just recently updated and it started then, so it might be because of that
but this isn't a beta topic, so I'll try and figure it out later 
...
oot, but how do yall know if you have pinged someone or not? the msg only turn yellow if you get pinged not the other way round??
There’s an @ mark if the person is pinged
@primal pagoda like this?
You can click the ON/OFF next to the reply quote to un-ping someone.
!ts
The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on February 4 at 00:00 Pacific Time (UTC -8:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
When one hits reply there’s an @ symbol on the top right if it’s slightly faded that means no one will get pinged
that makes sense. thanks!
belp, yes I know I was just curious how ones know if they have oinged someone or not
my goodness. this week is the ts? i feel like I just blinked and it's already february
Yup, time flies.
Hi Ryuukun ^^
and i only have 60 candles lol. i'm richer in beta than in live. Hi harbin
Had to blink many times because I only saw old returning TS.
I never saw it stated, but do our skykids bow and pray when they get their daily light reset? (Chevrons) I could have sworn that just happened.
yes. when we first open the game. so cute. I didn't saw the bow tho. only the praying one
Never noticed until this reset. I was afk in home space and grabbed the candles when the server registered the reset and then went afk again, then I heard a "ding" and saw that. It is really cute. Edit: bow could have been because that was my last emote and it happened as roll over happened. Might have been that then. Daily reset didn't register until 3 mins after reset.
i saw it when the update for the days of fortune happened. i was like woah. did I just pray to begin my daily life in sky. lol
I'll try to replicate tomorrow and catch it on video and report. (The bow thing)
me too. i'll try videotaping it
They pray, at least in the previous build mine did.
And discord is awful on mobile rn.
I never got to see the praying for the daylight replenishing. Or maybe it’s just too subtle I didn’t notice? Do you have to be online at reset to be able to see that visual effect? Cuz I usually got on a bit past reset
Is the invisible cape/capeless still in beta?
yes . always there lol
@late mountain damn thats a really cool PFP I wonder if it's an SS
Aww thank you, I drew it myself 
The full version is here: #completed-sky-fanart-and-creations message
I still can’t believe it but the same lowest quality setting in deathloop really worked

If that's a solution that works every time 
Might need to test with a group of 8, really strain the idea. 
they should only do it with friends?
I don't think doing eden only with friends is always an option. Some people might but plenty more would only go with a few friends (and then get a server merge) or go solo which could still result in the problem mentioned. 
I will never get over the salt that I never got swing or seesaw
I can't break things for fun
That new constlation is not new ? 'Star field memorial'
No its not new or being developed, just an old relic that happened to crop up. 
Ktjn addressed it here: #beta-discussion message

!ts
The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on February 4 at 00:00 Pacific Time (UTC -8:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
is thatskyshop planning to make ultimate umbrella by pin right?
the only context we've seen them mention the ultimate umbrella in is the actual real-life physical prop that's still available from their website; as far as i can tell, there's been no mention of making that umbrella (nor any of the other ultimates) into pins from thatskyshop, nor has anything of that nature been hinted at anywhere
oh i see xD i just thought they do by pin
And the bookmark in the box i think, but i haven’t seen any indication of a pin.
beside the bookmark they uploaded a tweet on twitter that they making the ult umbrella and i just dont know by pin or something
and ty for the explain 
They said they were going to make it so that it is always available to purchase on that sky-shop iirc
they do have umbrella designs. a real umbrella and a bookmark nvm I didn’t read
Where can i see the star field memorial constellations? Are they already fixed?
valley stadium oob
Ohhhhh ok thx 
Bug alert
Can someone test this with me?
- in Hermit valley when someone from far away honks weird icons show up instead of the actual honk, sadly I couldn't recreate it, nor took a screenshot
- The WLs under the hotspring and on top of the small tower do not count when collected. After leaving the area and coming back they appear as not collected
I can check nr 2, since I was in Eden recently. Hang on.
@sick pendant I could collect those two and keep them. Maybe your connection isn't stable?
i think that "bug" doesn't happen with specific WL, only random, sometimes they register sometimes they don't. i'm not sure if it's a connectivity issue or not
True. But Ignis asked about those in particular. I'll keep an eye out for it when I recollect.
it happened to me at isle with the WL at the ramp before you take off for the first time, and i was locked there since your character won't move if it didn't register
i could still collect it later
I restarted the app and it seemed fine.
I think they don't work if u come back from hermit valley.
Im 99% sure my connection is not the issue.
How about the 1st part?
When someone from far distance honks it seems like the mini version of instrument keys
oh, is it this: #beta-screenshots-videos message ?
No,
You know the circles and rectangles when u open the instrumen
When someone honks from distance the mini version appears
i know, i thought it might've been that, it should be since that's how yash got it to appear
.... WHEN? 
there are a bunch 'notorious' uncollectable WL: prairie butterfly fields the one towards the three islands map + a bunch at sanctuary. There's a few at forest as well + the first one at Valley. Alos some at isle are difficult to collect bcs of this bug :p. Krlltjn said a few days ago that they don't know where this bug comes from atm
I wonder if it's just the servers not being able to compute the total correctly.
I think I just saw a hacker
I saw a player just continuously drop their lights at home on flat ground
they dropped like, 20+ wings raining out from them
the heck is that??
Please don't discuss hacking. Just report them and move on.
well they poofed so too late I guess, still, that's not a normal thing right?
If that's what I think I am it is
Did they drop 5 lights per 3 seconds? If yes it's a known bug
oh I see, yeah it was 3 ,5 wings
whoops, my bad, I was a bit too shocked to put the two and two together
It's ok don't worry
If the person in question didn't do anything wrong they're safe even after being reported
At home space that’s still weird. Dropping 5 wings at a time in eden after kill switch got activated is normal.
About the wings, there are a bunch which cannot be collected. It might dissapear when you click on the icon, but it wont add to the number and also won’t recharge you at all, like working wings do. If you reenter the area they will be there again as if nothing happened.
I experienced the uncollectable winged lights for a while now, it seems to be totally random if you can collect them at 2nd or 3rd try, but they seem to be are the same "trouble kids" over and over again. Forest, Valley and vault seem to be clear though in my experience.
I was once in the Coliseum and someone deep honked when I was lighting an elevator and the background(the circle) icon became an eye
But I was dumb and screenshoted it from in game camera
no such instrument exists in beta
that's a modified item, no such thing exists. please remove your post to not spread further confusion
does the tier 2 version of the black and white cape exist on beta? my friend who has beta said that they've seen players wearing them before but they can't find anything in the constellation closet
it did, and some people managed to buy it quickly before it was hidden from the trees. anyone who did can still wear it
oh I see!! thank you for telling me :D
hi
@wild harbor may i help?
honestly i want soundtrack to the festival of dreams its all i want for christmas ha
I want a soundtrack for all of the seasonal areas tbh
Maybe there will be a #2 sountrack!
I really want a soundtrack of the Eden ending credits music
hopefully there will be a #2 soundtrack
the current version?
Yes the one that’s after reborn with credits to TGC staff and all
Wasn't that sourced to Aurora?(vocals) If so, there's some loops they have to go through to release it in an OST.
i have it tho lol i filtered out all the bg sounds
Oh is the invisible cape only available in beta? Or is it also in live?
beta only
1 happened to me in vault the other day
Oh, will it ever be added in live?
we dont know. its been in beta for months, its changed its location twice now in where you buy it
Why are there hands on my friends face when i open them in constellation? 
pog
i have a niche ask from any long-term beta testers who have the bonfire item:
has anyone run into issues with the bonfire where the
can't be lit up? if so, do you recall when the issue started occurring? (it's okay to @ me for this if you have the item and have experienced this issue)
Maybe we could test that with the spell version?
I haven't encountered any issues with it yet, but i can double check right now
I've never had that problem
moments when i wish we could attach items to Inbox messages and just send everyone the item for testing, heh. soon™️ 
I am so excited

just checked, i can light it, but it looks a little weird, like i'm lighting it from far away. i'll send a video in #beta-screenshots-videos
Uhhh I feel like people might take that the wrong way and start demanding the bonfire from the inbox
they can demand all they want, but it's not going to happen. items can be retracted as easily as they are given out.
That's a pretty long range to light... Has it always been that far of a range? 
no, you've always had to walk right up to the logs and have your candle touch them
I don't remember ever having that issue with the bonfire.
I've noticed it lighting all on its own before. I like to land on it mid air to take cool pictures and sometimes poof it lights... sky ghosts?
the audio design of sky is really something
thanks aeras, i sent it to the team.
Lol, we're both Home testing the bonfire now.
And there's a confused "moth"...
ill check mine rq
mine lights from a normal distance with regular masks but if i put on chjbi every few times i move and light it, it lights from further away. its not consistent though so i havent caught on video yet and it only does that on chibibmask
interesting! I was wearing chibi earlier, but it didn't seem to affect the bonfire
for those who have the days of feast table, it may be worth trying that item as well since it can also be lit up.
i think i only have spells but should be enough for testing
I can check that one sec
i still have chibi mask on, but it seems pretty inconsistent. i can't quite replicate it to get more footage
table seems to be pretty consistently lighting from normal distance even with chibi. but i did clip through the table and light it from underneath once 
Feast table is totally normal. Icon appears from pretty far but our character runs there.
onmy screen you were lighting next to the table pakka
my icon appears in the right place too
chibi is inherently super broken.
in order to fix a lot of outlier cases, we'd have to break chibi in a way that removes nearly all of the fun things folks can do with it.
No i mean, it appears if i’m close too, but I can see it from a nice amount of distance also.
which we've, so far, been able to avoid.
Everything fine for me for both items and both sizes. Icon appears far, but i have to run to light it up. Beta android
managed to clip underneath the table to light it again without chibi mask. i am pretty short though
i've gotten bonfire to light up on its own twice, but i couldn't record it in time. strange.
theres a very confused capeless chibi that keeps trying to sit at the tables and bonfires we keep moving 
Tested days of feast table in different realms, nothing out of the ordinary for me.
i forgot what i was gonna say
the poor chibi just wants to talk
oof... you'd have a chibi revolt if ya did that 😂
i'm imaging thousands of angry little chibis flocking in, it goes into this in-depth speech of the mistreatment, but when it pans out to a crowd shot all TGC could hear are squeaks
well i was able to clip through my table and get stuck without chibi
#beta-screenshots-videos message
Did you do it by walking under, or using expression bug?
that just happens sometimes, no tricks required
i was lighting it and when i did the auto walk to light it i just went inside the table
Just like it sometimes happens you just ignore collision all together and fall through the map at random times as chibi.
Uhh forest and sanctuary every single time in certain spots 
But whenever a door closes a window opens.
I bet we would be more motivated to find new ways to get into oobs. 
you can get into about every chibi oob with a table and a friend. and if youre creative enough with placement you can get in with most of them solo with a table
Feast table seems to be working pretty normal for the most part with the actual item, haven’t tried the spell variety if that changes things.
the spell sould funtionthe sameasthe actual item since its replacing your back accessory for 20 minutes.
Piggyback play dead works with all chibi oobs, can't do solo obviously, though.
i love piggyback playdead 
Extremely helpful when u hit that invisible vault wall
Friendship emotes have way more possibilities in them than chibi. The only thing i'm not sure we can do without chibi is spiralling down
out of context chat i just had in beta thought yall would get a giggle out of "overnight rain mom has breakfast"
shes talking about the forest elder hair shes wearing. rain mom
oh pakka spiral down works with someone my height if i do it with someone taller than me even without chibi mask
remove chibi clipping = ruin speedruns lmao
funny thing is you can chibi clip with normal size
cribley that changed a while ago. i havent been able to chibi clip with shortedt heigh since it became where only sneaky stance worth with chibi clip
I would try that, but with the resize message changes I tested, I went from near smallest to tallest in my only 3 resize potions.
You can do it with many different heights. I’d guess if you’re below -1.0.
This also works with someone shorter than you on your back @random gull
I can still do it in Vault, Wasteland, Forest...
By the way, anyone up for elevator by any chance? 
im literally in wasteland right now trying to and its not working 
@vapid briar regarding the fire wood , i use it a lot , never encountered an issue of not being able to light the fire
I will keep that in mind thanks Umara
Sure i will be there in a sec.
yall arent talking about falling through the ground chibi clipping are you? youre talking about those areas where if you yeet yourself at the wall in theright place you kinda just go through?
We got it if anyone wants to join the spoils ^^
Good evening everybody !
I have a question hoping Ktjn could answer; I’m posting it in this channel as it’s the one that most people might know of/answer
Is Sky COTL a different build compared to its previous release Sky Light Awaits or at its core it is Light Awaits and TGC has been able to improve that version over the years?
I’ve been using/learning about PhyreEngine (the one TGC used for Flower and Journey from Sony) and I’m just interested on understand a little bit more of how they scrapped the original build and improved it to the version we all know and love to this day
Thanks and stay safe !
Sky never used PhyreEngine afaik, Light Awaits is COTL but the previous version, just the name is changed
I am aware of that, they build their own engine, I just said it as a little background :3
Sky uses a new proprietary engine we built. we don't have access to the tools we used when we worked with Sony. Sky: Light Awaits used the same engine as Sky: Children of the Light, it was just a pre-launch version of the game we refer to as "Limited Live" it was only accessible in a few select regions for testing purposes.
(edit) Even after global launch in july 2019, we released identical updates to the Sky: Light Awaits version of the app for about 8 months before being retired completely.
Ohhhh I get it, it’s amazing what all of you have accomplished with Sky, I’m starting my own path on Game Developing and the Journey (😛) TGC has gone through is inspiration to pursue my dreams
Thank you for your quick response Ktjn, have a nice day !!
You're welcome!
Getting familiar with one engine is always super helpful in pursuit of game dev. depending on the studio, you'll frequently run into needing to use nonstandard engines, but being able to implement things and prototype is a highly transferable skill.
Oops put this in the wrong section... Is the squished stars on the enchantment capes a bug or is that just how they are supposed to be now? I remember them saying it was a bug and they got unsquished for a bit but are back to squishy.
it's a bug
I can get chibi clip occasionally without sneak stance
the only reason I use chibi is on CRs to get past multiplayer doors. Don't get me wrong, the height change is cool, but without the clip it's a detriment
is there a list for all the dof and dol item prices? i can’t find it
were asked not to make price charts and maps and such for beta content as its likely to change before it hits live 
ah ok thanks
officially no, because things are subject to change before they go live. you can use the search bar or check #beta-screenshots-videos for the prices as they appeared during testing.
when it will release vacancies in the beta for a long time
are you asking when the next beta invites will come?
it usually opens before the start of testing of a new season. kindly read #beta-faq for more info!
@drifting eagle Really yes, because it’s been a long time since you’ve released vacancies, it’s even boring waiting so long
like ryuukun said more invites will come next season- around that time, look in #beta-signup-info for invite links to be posted. beta is limited & the invites are filled up very quickly though so you have to be vigilant 
we have to wait quite a few months for them to open whenever they close, and invites seem to open up when the live season is almost a week at end, so its most likely we wont have them until early-ish march 
as the #beta-faq states we do invite waves ahead of new seasons. Season of Dreams isn't even halfway over. invites were less than 2 months ago.
If you're bored, you can play the Live version of the game. Beta is even more boring, so I'm not sure what exactly you're hoping to get out of beta.
So I have to wait for the season to end?
i mean im currently on live myself despite currently being a beta tester
the most i did today on beta was play with the days of feasttable and bonfire and took a few resize potions
I think season of dreams will end during the middle of February
beta is also VERY buggier than live, we're getting cosmetics crashing us and realms breaking our game left and right - its nonstop glitches, while live is much more stable 
true. I only go to beta to test new stuff, send feedbacks and report bugs. i love it tho.
You will have to wait until we're ready to start testing new content. That could be tomorrow or a month from now.
theres around 40 something days of dreams left - its feb 1 - febuary has 25-28 days, its going to be in march when it ends
the fun thing about beta is the unpredictability
everything is a surprise here
sorry are you talking about the live or the beta?
I think they meant how long the season is on beta, which has absolutely zero bearing on when we're ready to test things.
oh speaking of. days of fortune starts in live next week. new things to look forward to!
oh
yeah beta seasons have nothing to do when we'll test new things like ktjn said, we mostly just encounter even more bugs after it ends
looking at you handpan
we definitely have stuff to test evenwhen a season isnt active! normal game mechanics do break sometimes and just general bugs that happen on their own
i just hope the colosseum gets revamped in live before the quest 5 is available but there is still plenty of time left
worst case scenario we would delay when that quest becomes available, as we have had to do several times in previous seasons, to ensure all updates are in and as bug free as possible.
i just csnt wait for the snow to hit live
its so pretty
i'm excited to see the pink grass again. so pretty
Wow. I just realized i dont have it in beta... Its totally a bug
you dont have snow in dreams village??
Are you in dreams village? 
Yeah... I got what Kai mean by snow
you finished all quests?
Is the snow supposed to be related to quests?
well most of us had all the quests done by the time the snow got added so it may not be
May be it isnt related💀 bc i havent done all quests
Hmm, would be cool if the snowing was a final quest completion thing
Or not, its still cool.
Imagine weather irl depending on if you did your homework/report or not
I vaguely remember I didn't realize there's snow until I finish all quests
lighting my constellation on beta for the first time in months and apparently at least one of my friends thought i "died" (quit beta)
No snow day for you, you didn't do your homework. Walk to school uphill, both ways, in the blizzard.
When do the events end in beta again? I lost track of days
About 20to19 days left
Keep in mind, events in beta are subject to change. If TGC thinks beta testing for the season is done, they can end it early or even extend it again. Days of love and fortune already ended.
Both Days of Love and Fortune events have already concluded, the season ends on beta in ~3 weeks. The holiday event structure for Live will be dramatically different than what occurred on beta.
Ah okay! Thank you so much ^^ that really helps
Fortune hasn't ended? No visitor today and the shop is gone already. 
oh you're right, i was on a dev build where i can time travel earlier. >_>
It's been a whirlwind of a day trying to pin down bugs and subsequent fixes.
The team should have some drastic improvements to eden in the next build though.
Good luck 
Ooh
I'll look forward to it.
oohh. gambatte/fighting/goodluck! I'm so excited
I guess I'll save my eden run for when the next build comes out or Saturday, whichever comes first. Need some resize to get smol again.
it's been a while since I've run eden in beta. I guess after the new build comes out is a sign
going back to snow, i’ve completed all Dream Guide’s quests and it began to snow after i saw the last cutscene (Season’s ED). it’s a good change imo
and the cutscene changed so much. i love it
im never taking a resize again
i got smaller and like im not pushing my luck to get smallest because i will get stuck tall if i try. but i should probably go recollect my wl so i can joinedenshenanigans when the next buikd comes 
oh i cannot type oof
i tried
I'm tall in live, but hate the added wind resistance, so usually just wear chibi mask in both live and beta, but want to wear masks... Such conundrums...
i bought one of the chibi pins fromThatSkyShop so i can chibi clip with my weasel mask on
too bad the star pins dont work on ipad so i can only use it when i play on my phine 
I had to do some... Technical ingenuity to get the pins to work on my Pixel 3a... I didn't get the Chibi pin, but have quite a handful of them. I like how you can bind them to both versions. I just don't like how my phone tries to open the non-active app when I scan. 
luckily my phone asks me which app to open. you can usethe menu though to scan a star pin now! itll ensure it opens the app thats actively open
Yeah, I accidentally selected "always open" for beta, and the setting to remove always open is not available in my phone... I'm too lazy to hook it up to my pc and run the adb command to remove the preference. So for live, I just have to remember to scan in menu or beta opens. 
Back to beta topic: Any ideas where more candle wax can be placed or do you think they need to add more wax to the realms? I suggested a two player plant in the big open space in the middle of the Ark area. Good spot, no?
ark definitely could use something in the empty space for sure
not entirely realistic since its under water but a hidden candle in valleys ice rink would be fun. encourage people to go down there for skmething besides the wl. they lighting andsound is just super neat there
I'm thinking of sending a suggestion for the top of the first big ramp in isle to have some kind of candle there.
maybe there could be even more candles where loop dance is, both inside the 2 player puzzle and on the mountain. there are already a few candles there, why not a few more?
what if the candles reset everyday to diff places. lol. uber drivers are a profession now if that's the case
i think a cake or maybe a two person plant would be super neat in the underground cavern in forest inside one of the non-working doors, because there's a lot of little areas down there that have nothing, even still with all of the WL and the very few wax areas
Yeah, I was trying to brainstorm a good place to put wax there. I only go there during WL runs or if I just want to visit it because I barely go there. I don't see the extra time for the little wax it gives worth it for a CR. (Forest cavern)
pineswood is super pretty, although it's really out of the way for how little light there is there. If they were to add more plants, i hope they add them in lower areas of the cavern, cause i wanna keep my shiny photoshoot areas 
i was thinking we could have a cape that has a unique fly trail. like a fairy dust or something. that would be cute
ooh cute! put it in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived maybe?
the trail skids left while they’re flying actually comes from their hands
maybe unique pants then?
How can pants be unique when we already have different pants from seasons 
I meant unique pants causing the effects ryuukun mentioned, I’m not sure what you’re talking about..? new cosmetics come from seasons yes but i was saying if something like ryuukuns idea was added it could come from a pants cosmetic
Ah sorry, I wasn't reading above so I just assumed xd
But the trails come from skid's hands don't they? How would pants have that affect on them?
Pants cosmetics change your shirt & skin color too, so if it wasn’t a special cape it could be pants since they have an effect on the body
Oooh I see! It does sound like a cool idea
Are you sure about that? Just open apps section in your settings, choose Beta. In Beta settings there is "set as default" option. After you tap it, you can remove the preference. Anyway maybe you dont have it. Wanted to help
Sadly, it isn't tied to beta. It's tied to Android Webview on my phone, not Sky beta.
Beta shows no defaults set.
Can you check for android webview 'app' in all apps section?
Uneditable. Need adb commands to change it's preferences. System app and all
This is not fair...
I wish I knew about the new Eden improvements being added I would've not gone today and waited for the update 
You can still test, be the person that triggers the kill switch by not dying and have almost all your WL. 
Maybe I should go tonight since I do need the AC for resize and go again after update.
wing fiesta
beta is beta, so you don't really need 11 wedges all the time. go forth, and find all of those bugs 
I just randomly grab WL while testing the daily light system.
some are on the way anyway. Yeah, don't need even 9 in beta really.
I haven't collected WL since Friday, so far so good
Anyone have a pic of the eleventh star for the fortune cape?
Try searching 'in: beta-screenshots-and-vids fortune cape'
Its a good way to find the picture you're after in most cases since the channel floods with the recent content and bugs. 
You can always go with me to Eden and watch me NOT DIE. 
Someone mentioned fountain?
sign me up
The eternal Belpita
I'd really love to go with a group of people in Eden after the update,, it's really lonely going alone
What is about the new update? Didnt find anything in beta updates on eden..
they’re talking about the next update not the current ones
Its not out yet, we're all just waiting in anticipation after ktjn mentioned it
We don't have a timeframe for when yet.
Oh ok. I will look thru ktjn messages now
The drastic improvements... nice
no one really knows, but the word drastic made my heart skip a beat
I just hope for the sake of the team that drastic improvements doesn't come with drastic new bugs. Guess that's why we're here to test though! 
I have a question about when the seasons over, is that when people can start getting invites? Sorry this is my first time beta testing so I don't exactly know how it works
no. when access wipe happens everyone will be kicked out of beta and announcement will be made on #beta-announcements . invites will come out on later days and they will also announce it before it happens. basically you get to know when things will happen. they always notify us beforehand
And invites are really just a link posted here open for anyone to click, not anything individual. Just to be clear. 
Does anyone remember what the cost of the new events cosmetics in the office were? I know rose mask was 15 hearts
~~54 for ox mask and 65 for dragon mask cmiiw ~~ ohh around that. I’m not sure the exact price
oh, as i can remember it was 56 for the ox and 66 for the dragon. but subject to change
Caught the reset prayer and posted to screenshots and videos.
too precious.
I just noticed you can see the wax increase size in the background.
Hey guys is it confirmed by anyone that the new Candle Forge system has the rumored rates at the moment? So three Chevrons x5, two chevrons x3 and one chevron x2?
No confirmation has been given and the rates are subject to change. We are encouraged not to post exact rates due to the system being in its development phase and changing frequently 
Yes sure but they said you can talk about it with a disclaimer that numbers are subject to change.
I can tell you those numbers are def wrong right now. But no, we aren't to disclaim them. First pin in this channel. 
Only if absolutely necessary but yes. Those numbers are much too high for the current system. 
Ok yes I thought so. Also I understand that telling any numbers could create false expectations and if they are lower in live people would get upset.
But then I have to tell you that on Youtube there are several Videos who claim this 5x, 3x and 2x as fact. So maybe you could talk to them.
Not exact numbers,3 is higher than 2, 2 feels normal and 1 less than normal. I haven't number crunched. I just randomly light stuff in live and beta and see how it feels. I don't care about the numbers right now as even in our feedback, it's best to say how the runs feel, not bump 0.5x or something. They want to remove the grind and make getting candles fun.
edit: disclaimer: this is a beta feature, the feel of the runs will change as it gets balanced.
Yup, plus they want us to test like a fresh player would to a new feature most times. So more how it feels rather than already knowing the exact numbers and what's changed.
most youtubers always claim anything they see as fact, even certain texture bugs were presented as this cool brand new texture, and going in the comments to say "hey, this is not intended, put proper disclaimers, pls" gets drowned out by innocent live players who don't know any better
I really don't even forge candles until I am done with my cr, so don't ask me for values. 
yeah I remember the start of testing of the new candle system, valley race doesn't even give candles.
I do a realm I'm each tier pretty much and stop once the chevron drops and go to the next and see how long that chevron lasts, etc. It's been a long process to get a good guage and how each tier feels, not caring about how much a light/wax value is.
Yes that´s a good impression. I just felt that 5x, 3x, 2x way too high and was getting nervous about the candle prices shooting up. As Candles are also a way to make money for TGC, that rate would make it basically irrelevant. When I would be in Beta I would test things like this immediately. I just love numbers and finding out the algorithm behind systems.
Candle value shouldn't change much. I don't think that's their intent.
true (especially to us homespace candle runners)
hiiiii I might be a little late to the party on this, but what does everyone think about all the candle cakes being placed in realms (rather than spreading out the wax). I already sent some feedback in the right channels for that, I was just curious about what others thought of it. Personally, i prefer seeing less cakes and more candle bunches spread through the realm (in particular in Vault)
oh, for me, i love the candle cakes. it's much less of a hassle during a candle run also because I'm lazy and prefer goofing off rather than collecting waxes
I think candle cakes give people a better incentive to actually visit that realm, and for Vault specifically there's little space left to put candle bunches.
For trials, if you have candle cakes or bunches right at the start or just about midway, players would just collect them and leave without actually completing that trial and those will distract newer players (first time?) when they attempt Trials.
iDunno if its legal to ask for this, but anyone has that chart with 2 tier capes prices?
currently, it's priced at three times of it's original price
#beta-screenshots-videos message all the ascended/tier 2 capes
ty
ascended capes, what a nice name :D
If it helps, the visuals of the candle cakes are subject to change. they're just an easy, low budget way to inject a lot of extra light into each level for the first iteration. art team hasn't made a pass on them yet.
guys what's the about a new hat? i dont see any updates on the playstore
 Question!If I want to attend for the next beta,should I go to “Rules” and click the candle at the bottom or should I go to “Beta invite” invite directly for the website?
Please read second message in #beta-faq then choose correct reaction. It explains which roles they give and what the roles mean.
Ok so, ||Eden|| is still broken TwT.
||I keep crashing at the part where skykids spawn in with your friends' names||
funny cause i just did a speedrun and chibi clipped to skip forest elder
istg tgc if you fix this now
is there Maintenance going on ?
because for the life of me i cannot log onto live or beta sky though my internet is fine
any news for the prices of tier 2
?
they'll tell us in #beta-announcements ??????? lol
Did beta just update, or did I miss the last one? (160951)
In answer to my own question, I think I forgot to update this current one.
I checked the dates for the last build 😅
Willow trees
Sky
Now im not saying anything, I'm just putting 2 things together
But dont all of the trees have clouds as leaves
Did anyone notice that the office spirit is gone for no reason at all. Like the dragon is still there but there’s no spirit ? Seriously?
the event ended in beta though 
I didn’t know that, I saved so hard...
I don’t know what can I do now
big bruh
plenty of time to save candles for live though! i never really bother too much with beta stuff. if i have the candles great, if not then oh well. there's always the possibility of a progress wipe so despite being on beta for about a year now i still don't own most of the base game cosmetics at all
Nvm it’s me being stupid ok ?
smh
I still feel physical pain tho, I cred for it 
this is why we get warned so much not to get attached to beta stuff. you could save those candles for the next event or upgrade some friendships though 
Sigh nevrmind I got over that heart bug before already, I hope I won’t get too heartbroken for this 
The schedule was posted in #beta-announcements . It’s always a good idea to read through that, even when you can’t be on beta for a while, just to keep up with everything.
I just had the dragon teleported to the blowing up scene and then teleported back to near Eden gate. On android
Beta is temporarily anyway
As for me, if u don't have enough candles i use 2 spells fort testing and save 2 for later (in case specific testing needed)
oh that's a good plan ignis!
That’s a really nice plan ignis
Hey, is there any (cannon) info on the reason why -hide and seek pioneer- was the one to get the dress ?
Just wanna know out of curiosity
idk if the whole "for chibi mask accuracy" counts as one of the cannon reasons-
sky lore is intentionally left incredibly vague so the players can make what they will out of it. some things though really aren't meant to be part of the lore and instead are just fun game mechanics. like Ktjn has said before things like the office and the days of events aren't part of sky lore. they're just fun real world Easter eggs. the spirit changing is probably gonna be more of "this erases the previous version from the lore and replaced it with this version" kinda deal 
Also if we think that way, what spirit could have been a better candidate for the dress? I bet you didn have that thought in your mind

bow spirit in valley /j
but tbh, i think the dress would look good in other forest spirits too
I can hear lore chat will be big braining once this comes live. Seems fair 
Not related, I jumped when I first saw hide and seeks pioneers model change
I drew one of my skykids with the spirits hair and new dress (+prophecy ult mask) and posted it here at some point before the model was changed
A surprise coencidence, but a welcomed one ^^)
just wanna put this here, don't mind me www
There was no wax at the bird nest area, even though i didn't do any candle run there, anyone else experienced this today? 👀
I can go and check it, I haven’t been there yet 
Working ok on my end, i got all including the cake. Maybe you had some connection issue?
Hi how long will the day of fortune and day of love activities last?
they've both concluded in beta. if you're asking about live, a schedule was given in #news
Question: Did the days of Fortune pack just have the mask, hair, and cape or did it have additional candles as well?
Just the items without candles iirc
, but someone probably made a screenshot of the pack in #beta-screenshots-videos.
@tender oasis maybe, thank you x3
I can’t wait until beta invites come
Might have to wait a bit then
Dreams just got extended in beta so I'm curious to see what else is coming 
I thought monday would over Dream season. I was wrong hahahahaha! Will season candles converts to normal candles in beta version too?
Yes, they tend to convert in beta also, but we'll see this time since players got so many. Maybe we won't get to keep them all. I also don't think the extension of the season in beta will affect when beta invites happen. That's more related to when the season ends in Live and the next one needs to begin testing.
In my opinion the hide'n'seek pioneer got the dress because they're the most suitable character out of all.
Besides they needed a makeover, since the chibi mask is supposed to make u small but they in fact were one of the tallest spirits
I did bird nest earlier today and got the wax just fine
What if hide'n'seek is already chibi size?
They're just that tall
The beta channels are not for previews and spoilers of beta content, it's for testing and discussion of current features under development. You can look in #beta-screenshots-videos, but please don't make such requests. The events cosmetics will be in live soon
when I link my star pin to an account, will it accept my live and beta versions?
Iirc u can use it for only 1 account
I'd highly recommend using it for ur main live account since beta is temporarily,( chances of getting into beta for the next season too are not 100%,u might miss the waves and then won't be able to test in beta)
Ayo what do y’all think the live TS will be?
!tsbeta
Traveling spirits in beta have different scheduling than in live, and have no bearing on future traveling spirits.
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
Mm could have just told me that instead of summoning scary bot 😳😳
Actually you can use it for 3 accounts, one global sky, one beta and one netease account. I have my pins linked to both beta and live and they work perfectly.
you're right, sorry for scaring you, my bad
Thank you!!! I had the star pin linked to my beta account since my live already had the item from the pin 
Sorry, idk why but when a bot corrects me I get scared.
Anyways! Cya later beta discussioners! Have fun discussing! 💗
Android should offer you a window where you can chose which app do you want it to open. Basically you just click on whichever you want to use it every time you scan the pin.
Bot commands are there to be used, nothing to be scared of.
ios betaplayers, having troubles with the flying button especially on phone?👀
uh no, it was fine earlier to me. what problems are you facing exactly?
i’m asking to other betap also, it seems that android doesn’t have any issues, and ios ...well it’s like you have to break the screen to be able to fly. sometimes the flight button flickers too, but actually no flaps. Sometimes it flickers one time then stops completely to work
I've noticed for live as well, the button moves away from your finger slightly which can throw off movements
yes exactly!
hmm, can't say that i ever noticed something like this. i'll play close attention on my next run 👀
thanks👀🤍
oh! here's something else to test 
I'm at a ski slope rn oh no
beta wake up! we got things to test today 
"teleport to your friends" wait we're in beta. Which friends

lol
your fellow testers 😄
i have so many friends
lemme see if anyones online tho pspsps dark aeras i see yall here
Is this about warp? Cuz I don't have warp with any of my friends 
it's almost like there's an entire channel dedicated to making new beta friends #beta-looking-for-group
mm, I’m with dark, haven’t noticed anything unusual with the flight button lately
i'm... not online! 
Welp, server error for me
Raise your hands those who have a constellation in beta that only comes online when there are some new cosmetics or zones to test 
servers down 
I just got the notification of server issue popped up
I teleported to Aeras but I got server error message after that 
checking with eng
Yeah same
I tried tping to a friend
Got the server msg
it’s back to normal. I’m with the other 4 skids 
It’s good now
So for those who have a star pin, does your constellation have a spot at the bottom where they display an unknown kid? and when you tp to them they mark random players you haven't met?
yes. you can teleport to them if you both happen to be online. also it resets every time you log in. if you don’t relogin, it stays with the same person
nice
had two friends i couldnt join in not full servers 
same!
okay should be back to normal now.
experiencing the same thing
belpita are you on a full server 
None of my friends are online to test it 
ok nvm i literally cant join anyone not just Belpita
people can join me tho
dark full one there?
nope, empty. can't join anyone
i seem to be able to warp just fine, which is strange
@kindred fossil do you see their shadow?
not that either, only the error message
okay, it seems to be working perfectly now
managed to tp to a 7 person server!
we got a full server!
how to help testing when you just...dont have friends

it took me like 10+ tries to get to aeras and belpita but other friends i cpuld get in 2 tries. currently in a full server now tho
Wow 🤩 ThE traveling spirit!
Hello! Sorry are black flashes occurring when playing in beta or is that just me? Is it intentional?
I got to join them at the third try
Joining friends works normally for me with servers which have 7 players or less. But if I try to join someone who also joined someone else, it doesn’t work because that player’s checkpoint is not registered there yet. But it basically works after they change the area 😊
When you have no friends online 
I think it’s a bug Seri. I don’t see black flashes when I got online. You might want to bug report it 
I already did
ig it’s just been occurring for me! Thank u so much for the info!
Nvm seems fine for me
Seri which device do you play from if you don’t mind me asking? I experienced black flashes at homespace a few times with my iPhone 7 but I didn’t think of it as a bug. I thought it was about my connection
Woahh so someone else is also experiencing it! I’m using an iPhone 8 Plus. I also do not believe it is due to wi fi issues tho cos my wi fi has been working well for the past few months. Tho it might be
Also the times the black flashes have occurred for me have also happened in specific moments like whenever I even go near a portal my phone flashes black for a second
Yeah, I think its better to report it as a bug. I will try to record it the next time
I have an iPhone 8 so if this is happening to iPhone 7 and 8 plus then I might have it too. Will keep an eye out for it
what is the fix for?
For people having trouble joining friends by tp
Late reply 😂 but man , I’m happy I’m not the only one. I thought it was just me .that would explain my bad flying. The problem i have is that my sky kid sometimes just refuses to take flight when i push the screen. And when I’m flying and want to change flight mode , the toggle doesn’t work. At least i thought it didnt work cause i always fly ‘blind’ in other words, i intuitive use the toggle button without looking at it so i havent seen the flickering
yes same issues. i’m flying like moff🥲 i used to be a good flyer 😆
i have problems sliding on ice. like when im trying to slow down the movement stick goes halfway on screen and halfway off screen
i haven’t noticed this, i’ll put more attention next time i 🎿
i read that as chicken with winged
what
Send me a QR and we can go together ^^
the msg was hours ago and they’re probably in different timezone
tgc: spoiler respect ts
me: waiting to get seasonal candles after season
still tgc: we add 20 more days to season of dream on beta 
Who knows, ts might won’t even show up even if it should 
You still are a good flyer Cellie, great one actually 💕
I usually have a hard time holding down the fly button to flap continuously. I have to press flap, press flap, press flap instead of preeeeeeeesssssss flaaaaaaaap
Also this is a recurring problem on my iPhone but it’s new for my iPad
have to bye bye winter piano on beta xD
tbh I don't care about my beta account as much as I do my live account
I do CR, run around make sure everything's working, check new stuff, and then I'm off
I don’t remember having problems with flying lately but it’s also true i was mostly in eden and the only things flying there were wings
(ipad, one hand mode)
yes same uma♥️ and ty🥺♥️
I was so hyped to have enough candles in Beta for the next TS
me too xD but will beta never done season longer than live server
I mean, 20 more days of collecting seasonal candles, ill be rich
still true xD
Some iOS users are having flight issues? And here I thought it was only Android 11. We have our buttons freeze randomly for about 3 seconds. If you're moving, you'll keep moving that direction and none of your inputs will change where you're going. I think it's a known issue as it's happening in live also.
I'm gonna get on beta and chill a bit if people are still testing teleporting 
so also android ok
yes same
maybe in this week or early next week live server gonna have big update xD
one of 2 season spirit pack had come so fur cape only the matter of time
gotta say the shenanigans earlier testing if teleporting works made me like five new friends
I may have gone up to every grey skykid I saw like LIGHT ME. only one person wouldn’t light me but I think they went afk 
Is the ts on beta same with the live one? 
Since we aren't really testing any TS feature, it will mirror live. If the TS doesn't appear, they won't actively work to fix it because... Beta and all
until the bug comes to live
That's great and all, but we shouldn't post about that stuff as it brings attention to those less than savory players. Best to report and move on.

I'm still laughing about that one skykid that wouldn't light me earlier and kinda just ended up afk as part of our bonfire circle
i made many friends today over teleporting shenanigans tho so wee bonus
Im sad y’all cuz I though we gonna get our candles converted yesterday and now I can’t afford ts
but yolo
Now's a good opportunity to test out the new Daily light system to get some TS items. 
Yes that’s what I’m planing to do, I hope I’ll be able to get something
me doing my second cr on live today instead of cr on beta
all I did on beta was throw my last few candles at everyone I saw and made new friends while testing the teleporting
can someone privately send me the new event's items available on beta for purchase (my beta moth hasnt completed all worlds yet🥲)
whats this bull mask ive seen?
The events ended in beta. None should be in the shop. (Only the starter cape, AP and if you're in the office, founder's cape. Once purchased, they disappear from the shop, just like live)
@cobalt igloo could you please edit your custom status to something more family friendly that adheres to the server #rules. thank you!
how much did each in game currency item cost from the days of fortune/days of dreams in office
is the love swing available to purchase in beta yet?
Days of love ended in beta. It's no longer available.
Haha I can't ever test the new update becuase I never have friends online :')
I am currently on a wl run on live or I would help 
I have a question
Is the double heart event applied in beta?
we don't know. usually it's not supposed to, since the devs have to manually turn it on for us, but last time they were kind enough to do so for beta. no guarantees for this time around though
Oh, thanks!
hello, is the current fix is for "your friend is in a place you can't join" bcs full server?
Wdym that is not a bug.Max 8 people in a server
There was an odd bug where there weren't 8 people but you couldn't join. It has been fixed nvm 
that message is being received by players when an instance is not full, based on preliminary testing, the bug is still present. We'll have more fixes in the near future, though it may not be in time for the next beta build.
ah got it, thank you
yeah I did still have issues joining several of my friends who weren’t in full servers earlier
I did make many friends though so I hope I can be online for the next frenzy of “try to teleport to your friends” madness. I need candle runs before then so I have enough candles 
Two realms a day and you should be good, Kai.
I've found the quest realm and cake realm give just the right amount for me in beta. (And live, pending any changes to this current system as I have never done a full 18+ CR in live... Unless ubered)
I can do about one realm before I have to stop or find an uber
but the new light system is definitely getting me more candles with my one realm on beta than it is on live
Why isn't the bridge and door mechanism active in yeti slopes
And why is village so yellow 
huh it’s purple on my device
I do see what you mean on your screenshots though
🔨🔧
#beta-screenshots-videos message update pls come to android soon
I don’t wanna miss all my friends going to eden without me again plsssss
updoot? 
Here we come eden 
android just gonna make me miss out again 
The Eden deathloop is that when I do Eden with friends sometimes I get lost or cant go to Orbit right
there's the ping
time to wake up beta and die 
Is this THE Eden update? 😮
woaah. thank you tgc for your hardwork
in theory
android please come faster
if all my ios friends go in that hour I have to wait I will die
Anyone want to get a group together to test it out? Mine is updating.
Aww, perhaps we can wait for android?
If the storm bug is fixed I will cry in gratitude
Only one way to find out... 😉
eng refactored a lot of old code in there and made the kill switch timer dynamic based on number people who are alive.
ooooo that's cool!!! 
I'll have to wait to test eden in the morning 
the one time I am aggressively refreshing the page instead of being patient with the update
I want to join Harbin
i've started the update about 12 minutes ago and im not even 25% done so... ill get back to y'all once i'm closer to playing the game 
I have to go to work soon. Meh. 😕 Hopefully some friends will be on 4-5 hours later.
wait, improve the deathloop
it's getting fixed instead of worsening the deathloop right?
i will likely be in there tomorrow, and can grab folks to tag along.
let's play a game of 'how many eden runs can i do in a week' 
Pls I havnt even finish getting all the stars to go to eden again 
I don't even remember how many wl I have recollected after last time. Not a lot. But I suppose that's good for testing purposes.
I just missed all my friends going last time
I’ve done eden like 6ish times between beta and live already most of which with people I don’t know all that well.
frosty luna, are you perhaps the Luna I met earlier at a bonfire circle?
imma cap myself at like 3, completely disregarding that i've maybe only done it like 5 times in beta
Luna you don’t have to gather all the stars to test it out tho 
im confused 
i've got 149, willing to lose them for science 
I have like, 40ish as a guess.
Going to be a fast death, maybe that will help with testing if I loop.
Lol I guess the winner would be Pakka the Eden breaker 
having a range of star amounts in the group is a nice thing for testing as well! I'm at 130 something and willing to see all of them spray 
Nah, I will win, since I won't die. 
The invincible Belpita who survived the kill switch 
I’m at about 90ish iirc? idk I haven’t bothered getting all of mine back either
Just hit 75 from today's candle run. (Grabbed the ones in the area I ran)
What kill switch? What wl rain? 
I have 60 something, cause too much eden this week, never bothered to recollect
you can send me to die first if the plan is to make it quick
I’m around 80 or 90
Is it just me or is this update taking longer than usual to download? Might just be my internet is having a bad time 
My download went pretty fast
Internet it is 
i think because its MEGA OOPDATE to hopefully fix eden for now, it has a lot in it, so longer? idk im still not even halfway done and i started like 25 minutes ago or something
is both the days of fortune ox mask and the ts winter piano affordable with 200+ candles? (i'm not sure if i'm supposed to ask this here but i think i am)
beta updates download the entire game every time regardless of the update size, that's why they can take time
well, we don't know what the winter piano costs, since we don't get ts in advance. and the prices for the days of fortune items are still subject to change, so we can't give a definitive answer for that. but maybe?
i've seen the piano for 75 - but that'll probably change
that was likely a price chart from the netease (chinese) server since they have a different TS schedule from the global server. their TS and pricing have no bearing on the global TS and pricing though.
New fun bug at homespace, when you collect light from your friends constellation a candles will fall from the sky

Oh, that's not confusing at all. 
android updoot!!!!!
fast! have fun in eden, I'll join the crowd after work
i'm a bit tired today, so i'll do eden tomorrow if a group is going 
adroid update is going so slow 
iOS update isn't even done for me
its being unusually slow, but trickling there 
the square icons are back 
Any explanation about difference of Season of Dreams between Global version and Chinese version? @vapid briar
They are different 
please don't ping ktjn so suddenly 
the netease server has a different schedule. tgc doesn't control it
Please don't ping anyone on the server randomly, and especially not the Community Manager.
Global and Chinese version are run by different companies, mainly because China has very restrictive internet laws.
Are there any patch notes stating all the changes after an update
Naww,tgc provides different items for Chinese.And the reason may be the argument about the hat.
the netease server is usually half a season behind. its normal if its behind global
Samee
I can watch any movie with the highest resolution and have no problem but when I update sky beta it just takes forever 
What does this mean
-fixed issue preventing the purchase animation from being seen by other players
Naww,the problem is not the schedule .TGC provides different items for Chinese.And the reason may be the argument about the hat.
You just posted that. What is your question, more precisely?
The shiny shiny animation I guess? ✨✨✨
Which one is that im so confused
My question is why different?
what?
the reasons for why China has a separate server run by a separate company (NetEase, not TGC) are beyond the scope of this server as a discussion would break the no politics rule
It's a sensitive problem.Obviously TGC can not handle it
I also already answered that, as did others: #beta-discussion message
Is something about that confusing ?
They can and they have
it’s different because it’s run by an entirely different company. TGC provides netease with the base game. netease decides what they want to do with it once they get it. but this server is for the global version of sky only and this channel specifically is for the beta version so it’s best not to talk about netease server here as it’s incredibly off topic 
If you would like more clarification about the Chinese server, you can DM @hardy carbon 
otherwise it would be best to move on
Thank u for your patience
Please don't quarrel, okay? What you said has nothing to do with beta. please respect others.
Yes, like Starry sky said, that question could have been asked in #questions-and-help instead, since it isn't beta related.
not to add to the discussion exactly, but TGC handling asset creation as well for the netease version really makes me appreciate how much.... more they have on their plate than i initially thought? kudos to them for that
just thinking about conceptualizing, modelling and (oh god) the communication back and forth for an additional version already makes me so tired, lol. impressive that they handle these inhouse bc it shows a lot of care for their own product
bruh... talking about hacks and hackers is against the rules @sterile copper
He's banned for the above reason
I would advice you to stop now. If you have any beta-related questions, please feel free to ask them here. Otherwise, there are other more appropriate channels.
on our way to our demise 
Fingers crossed 
The short answer is that we develop the game and NetEase is a publisher, after we deliver a build to them, they make adjustments as needed to suit the needs of their region. While we have some visibility into those differences, they have the final say on what is ultimately released to their playerbase. This is why you'll see items or events that are specific to their region.
good luck
test some bugs!!
@sterile copper hopefully this addresses your concerns.
Thanks so much,manager!
does it make a lot of sense trying to test this new fix in eden alone?
it wouldn't, no, since the death loop is almost exclusively known to happen when other players are still alive while one is dead and doesn't really happen when you're alone
perhaps try and get 1 more person to go with you. have 1 die and go to the dark room and another stay alive. time it and see how long it takes for the fiesta to happen
well no one is available so no luck there haha, ah well maybe that 1 group of 8 can test enough
You can definitely go in by yourself, if you get stuck in a deathloop or encounter any issues, that's still valuable feedback.
we asked that folks grab friends and go in a group because that's usually where folks get stuck.
uh... bonfire cannot be lit in storm. need to test elsewhere, but rip 
have you tried putting the bonfire directly on top of a lit lantern to see if that would still light it up instead of your own candle?
multiple bonfires AND feast table 
yup. we stacked them, and nothing. feast table seems to be fine
no picnics for you guys in there during this update
Feast table lights but only has two of the three candles in eden storm. Haven't tested anywhere else yet.
I can’t download the new update on my iPad. Update starts normal and stops after 15-20% 😩 what can I do??? 😢
keep trying. it may be your internet connection
Another bug for morning report: warp doesn't work for ascent
do you have enough storage? i'm not sure but it could be that?
i just realised i was super late to that conversation, whoops i can't read-
Hey guys,do u think the color of hands and head is a bug when wearing the Jellyfish black pants?Or it is my phone's problem?
Okay I fixed it. Storage was the problem... 🙈🙈🙈 Thank you!
bonfire does not light in orbit either
also warp was disabled in orbit flight entirely. my star pin didn’t even work
bonfire can’t be lit at home either 
Some pants change skin tone, Jelly makes them dark, near solid black I think. Is this what you're experiencing? 
Why do i still see others people purchase?
Edit: i also noticed that the button is kinda..ruined. I don't know if they do it on purpose
Bonfire spell also doesn’t work
We're not supposed to do requests. Please read the pins in #beta-screenshots-videos
You’re supposed to see them purchase; it’s just that earlier we could only hear the sound, now we’re supposed to see the animation as well (I assume; my update is still at like 70%
)
Thank you for helping everyone! 
Just finished eden alone, it seemed fine
no deathloops at all in a group of 8 with varying wl levels. some played normally and died normally. some sat and waited for kill switch. we all died at different times in different places. not one loop among us.
Yes that seems promising. I’m sad I didn’t get to watch the wing fiesta this time tho 
I had a deathloop which I put in #beta-screenshots-videos
a single one in 15 minutes
One death loop for a group of 8
not bad at all
If i’m not mistaken our times were around these.
0 min - entering
~10 min - first death
~21 min - wing fiesta 
I can check my video again ^^; I’m still messing with the bonfire with harbin and a new friend I just made
It’s been a little more than 10 minutes between me being ded and me getting yeeted into the dark room, stayed in the form of blue light during all this time, didn’t get any death loop
That bonfire one and feast table bug is strange. Refreshing the instance seems to solve all problems though and even registers when people have 'tried' to light bonfire as lit when returning.
ok so from the rocket OOB my timestamps are ~3:50 entering pnr, ~13:20 first death (emma), ~17:40 I died, ~24:00 emma in dark room, ~25:00 wl fiesta, ~26:35 I went to dark room.
green skin bug, yes. all android (afaik) and only android users have this issue :/
So many bugs 😂
in my comparison pics in #beta-screenshots-videos just to keep it less chatter in the screenshots channel. The table is Harbin’s (yellow cape). Anyone could light it and everyone who was in the server when it was placed saw two candles. Mochi is the ios device, they are stormlocked because they went to eden separately from me and wanted to see if the game treated kill switch stormlock any different. I am the android, chibi weasel mask. I went into prairie and went home after Harbin placed the table and there were 3 unlit candles. I lit the candles and they appeared lit to everyone there but everyone else still only saw two while I saw 3.
The bonfire bug: anyone who is in the server when the bonfire is placed cannot light it or see it lit if others have lit it. They also cannot recharge off it if someone else lit it. Anyone who left and came back or entered after it was placed has the ability to light it or see that it had been lit by someone else and can recharge on it.
Ah, that would explain why mine looked fine. iOS seems normal there.
hope it gets fixed soon.. its fairly low priority and not exactly game breaking but my god.. the accidental shrek cosplays u can do

Very buggy, to add to the confusion though even when you saw you couldn't light the bonfire though you did light it. When the instance was refreshed when I left and returned the bonfire was lit only when people had been near it with candles out. It didn't light to you but the server had realised it was meant to be lit and lit it. When no one was near it with a candle out the bonfire was unlit from leaving and returning but could be lit normally by the returning player (still unlit to the rest of you)
I suspect the exact same thing happens with feast table but only that very first candle. 
definitely an unexpected bug when the patch was mostly about eden 
Yeah
Eden seemed good though, very promising!
oh wow so that’s the green skin bug. thanks for the pic Lye
my android never saw that. I did get the green butterfly cape during beta testing though 
does anyone know what the beta prices for the fortune IAPs are in AUD?
i've come here asking iap questions cus idk if i ask it in #questions-and-help ,,,,
all beta prices show up in USD no matter what country the beta tester is from and since we don’t know how it will convert in google play or apple app store, we wouldn’t be able to tell you. Also keep in mind even the USD prices in beta are subject to change it’s why the people in #questions-and-help won’t give you a price either 
I don't know if it's intended or not, but in the Final Showdown of the Season or Debut i should say, My sky Kid was moving around the ice rink with the girl but I couldn't move until it's my turn. I also noticed that I haven't done any Emotes on that part.
I update my beta. Whats new?
Hi! kindly read #beta-announcements . thank you
Thank u
Hope TGC would fix this soon

Ouch. My eyes.
Oh let’s uh
Not spam emojis
@willow anvil We do have some wonderful Emojis in this server and I'm glad you like them, but please do not spam them. 
So many suspicious sky kids wandering around in beta ಥ_ಥ
I am very happy seeing normal sky kids playing normally... ಥ‿ಥ
im suprised the devs didnt notice the bug in the first 3 seconds of the 5th quest
normal skykids playing normally ™️
They probably don't have time to test everything before it gets to us. Its not just recent things that can break, so the way we help is by finding bugs in testing and then passing it on so they can spend more time isolating and fixing them
At least that's my understanding.
eden, can’t warp to friends after the eye of eden
there's bugs that don't show up in the den builds too. it's why it took them so long to figure out why the fire prophet wasn't showing in beta
I think they were just shy 
What’s up with candle animation when friend light is collected ?
Most likely a bug
after update, i still don't have that dress on my closet 
It’s not ready to be implement in beta yet, once it’s ready you’ll likely see it mentioned in #beta-announcements 
when will the new invitation coming?
No one but Ktjn, the mysterious Keeper of Secrets, knows.
(Usually, new beta invites will be sent out towards the end of the season in live 😊)
thx
Is there an exact description of the new(ish) collection system? I haven't been able to beta for a bit a just noticed the small changes. Like the little arrows by the candle symbol and the x2 or x3 collection rate.
I know about the AP and TS stuff.
Also, follow up #beta-announcements a bit also helps to keep you up to date about changes or things being tested in beta even tho you don’t necessarily have time to test
this way you won’t be too lost when you come back to testing 😉
Thank you. I think the stamina thing is pretty cool. Increase the amount of candles able to be received a small bit without making it too easy.
I checked there but only found info on the AP, TS and bug fixes
ohh that's why, thank you... but i wonder how the sky vloggers already featured the "dress" on their videos, when it's not implemented in beta yet. 
You mean this one: #beta-announcements message
Ah. Yes and no. That is the same thing as the blog post that Emma directed me towards. I guessed I missed that specific one when scrolling through.
There’s been some tweaking, but essentially that’s it.
I think it was in beta for a short period of time but then got removed cos it wasn’t ready yet tho I could be wrong.
i just realized i spent all but 2 of my candles making friends yesterday and this morning. but hugs are essential so i must candle run 
I reaaaaally wanna know know if warp being disabled in ascent is intentional 
I don’t think so
why would TGC want that 
I don’t know
I do kinda wanna check if my star pin works outside eden now though cuz the error message I got was weird. I mean normal warp didn’t work with the two I did have it with either but still
Home trick was not removed intentionally too
ascent warp is really important, how can big groups keep together
a moment of silence for all the afk group members
About warp uhh... it works up there just not under normal circumstances😅
well... the error message is that my STAR pin isn’t registered and it won’t let me register
guess I gotta contact support
Won’t let you at home either? That’s weird
So in ascend you can’t warp just as you can’t warp in dark room , if you died...
talking about pins, did anyone purchase you and I pin? i’d like to try to link it with someone in beta if someone has it
well now I gotta check all my pins
they all work on live but only one works on beta. I have a you and I pin
I didn’t register mine on either app since I have nobody to share the other half with. doesn’t it have to be the same pinset to link them though?
ope in game customer support be like “this is beta you might not get a response at all”. do I like email ThatSkyShop or something?
I haven’t linked mine in both app as well because I have both the pins and haven’t shared it with anyone 😂 but I figured from someone that if I scan for example the I pin and the other person who buys the pin scan the other You, it still works even though both parties purchased the pins. so it doesn’t have to be the same pinset to be able to link it.
yes for merch matters I think it’s best to contact oreo
ok lemme grab mine and see if I can register it. we probably need to be friends in game first too so lemme also grab you a qr
ooh cool then. didn’t think i’d get a response this quick. I’ll need to update beta on my phone first. all this time I’ve been playing beta only in ipad 
I saw new items like tea tables elsewhere
Anything that you may have seen thats not currently in the beta shouldn't be discussed 
It’s indeed upsetting to see so many hackers on beta
But please just report them and move on
Let’s not give them the attention they want.
so uh. can anyone on ios come confirm something for me? my android is getting the lights from the dragon but Mochi’s ios isn’t. I wonder if it’s ios specifically or Mochi specifically
The orbs that the dragon drops?
yeah. turns out mochi was seeing them explode very far away from us too
like they aren’t in the same spots on mochis screen
I’m goin out in a lil while but I’ll test when I get back 
i got light from dragon balls today, and a lot. But not yesterday. I feel that whether it gives light or not is pretty random.
so weird
I hope it’s ok when it goes live. people are already freaking out about bugs
I got some lights today too.
I wonder if tgc builed a new face of home it might be great tho. My friend start to leave this game coz he said nothing change with sky everyday need to face the same thing.
Kai, just tried using my earth day pin and have the same issue. Says it's no longer bound and won't pair again. Works in live. 
It could possibly be hax, and please don’t spread this info because it might cause confusion to a lot of players
I'm not spreading anything that's why I came here to ask because I saw nothing about it in beta or here
I'll let you know when skyshop emails me back then. hopefully i can get them working on beta again they're very useful for testing things 
If you haven't seen anything about it here in beta, it's safe to say it's not legitimately available either.
Wait. Got it to work. The error was the app couldn't update counter. Somehow the counter between live and beta server side was off. I.. erm had to use NXP to change the counter value back to zero and it paired. I highly suggest against it. Filling out bug report now, though it seems to only affect beta. Would be good to put down though so it doesn't trickle to live.
I just tried the lightseeker cape an weasel mask pins and they worked for me as they did before
A mysterious system. All we know is if you max the meter, you get "shepherd" and can see an icon above new players.
no, its not available. please report players with items that arent released yet.
any new items will be announced in #beta-announcements

If you need to know what the "new player" icon currently looks like, I posted an image in #beta-screenshots-videos. This is beta, so the icon may change at any time. 
it could be anything ranging from that to simply fan edits
Can anybody summarize the Eden change for me?
Several changes to improve the deathloop in Eden—please venture into the storm with a group of friends to test these fixes
Lol, ya, I was asking what those changes are
Part of the point of being in beta is discovering things yourself and reporting on them. That's why we're asked not to make maps, for example.
This time, it seem mainly focused on the death loop. So test it out with some friends, basically.
Ya, I'll check it when I get done with work, just curious what to look for
Make sure no one death loops and also see if the auto-kill timer works. If you check #beta-screenshots-videos you should see a few of us having the "wing fiesta." In theory, everyone should lose all their winged light a certain amount of time after the first death on that server/instance to prevent greifing.
I'm sorry, I'm not being deliberately vague. It's just that this is how beta is supposed to work.
If you had any issues in eden before, check it if it's still there. If you haven't then watch if something changed or unusual.
I'm tempted to go in eden again
I'll see if anyone i know it's going first
There's an auto kill timer now? Wow, gotta go check this out...
I’m in if you guys are going, I really wanna have the WL fiesta this time 
Now? I think I could join too.
Suddenly remember that I forgot to bug report the bonfire.
I don’t know when Kai plans to do this tho, but I’ll be free for about several hours from now so just tell me when you are planning to go
But you won't let anyone die if you are playing the immortal game there
I'd go and try to loop. I really haven't collected winged light since dying last night. Only some from prairie and forest (daily and candle realms)
Me either I haven’t collected one single shiny boi since then
I'm in Home with afk Uzephi...
@random gull Kai you wanna join us now? And I’m on my way logging in
I am afk... But not really, just tabbed out to discord. 
I'm 10 minutes away from being able to 
We’ll wait for you then
aw, i wish i could join you all again, but i'm a bit too busy atm. 
have a nice death! 
Guys I’m looking for a support quickly... I never... NEVER EVER hacked in my life and I’m surely against hacking in this game... what the I keep my beta for over a year supporting the game with moneys and feedback... why they banned me??
I was submitting feedback about the daily light system. How it would be nice to see how much left you have of a tier when you log in or something like that in case you come back on to do another partial CR.
could you please DM @hardy carbon with your beta Sky ID?
I wish I could join you all in the deathening, sadly I have to go to bed so I can work early in the morning. 😔
This is semi related to beta but Ktjn do the devs ever have any plans to change the home space? (Like add more things to do and stuff)
Sure 😭
many events bring new temporary things to Home
I'm sorry Krilltjin can someone please look at me in thathelpbot? I really care of my account... please, it was really a huge mistake, I always report hacker if I see them... I care beta so much, more then live... please
Please be patient. It may take some time, and staff have many responsibilities
I really know, I'm usually very respectful of your time and work because I knew how hard it is... I'm just worried, I will wait
I hope you will help @buoyant berry she’s correct and polite.
You can be sure these matters will be handled by TGC accordingly, there is no need to campaign in this channel for someone