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Me sitting here w normal table bc im broke 
It's about as fast as recharging by standing on 3 red candles
, maybe slower, but it gets the job done
I posted a video in #beta-screenshots-videos a while ago that compares bonfire recharge rate vs days of feast table recharge rate! search "in:beta-screenshots-and-vids from:kai.#1012 has:video"
I can dm you about it 
i think they meant the gondolas, you know of the bug that won't let you light them
Yes, but that was solved in the latest build, I think. Anyway, they're not replying, so maybe it worked out.
it was? i swear i've been reading those update notes
THE END OF THE SEASON OF DREAMS
I LOVE IT SO MUCH
Fixes for boats in Yeti Slope
And it worked when I tried them a little earlier before going to Eden.
Anyone knows if the little startup single frame flash is connected to what was on the screen at the last point of closing the game, or is it just always the same frame flash, loading home area or whatever?
the same frame flash, not sure why it happens more with the ice rink home space
By the way there are 4 seasonal candle bunches per realm, right?
Ah cri, was hoping it could provide useful info about the Android pnr crash issue 
Tysm! 
Does the recipient of a bear hug always have arms slack?
QG looked decidedly unimpressed
Eight bunches which generate four candles
Huh so I thought that the qg was the grown up child, but I guess it is the mom or something? Weird how we didn’t really see them interacting in the cutscenes other than the last one 
The last cutscene, was

Oh my god that final cutscene 
I have ch I l l s
I kept waiting for the twins to jump in and steal the spotlight
Would have been the best idea 🤣 if they had
I hope when it goes live, the quest are reliveable
It was amazing.
I would have been so sad if that happened after reliving all of the spirit's memories and watching them try their best to fulfill their dream only for their spotlight to be taken by the valley twins
If they did that I would never wear
again 
After all they are known for their shenanigans 
I can't get over that final scene. I am so impressed with this season, and that final scene just put it over the top for me.
At this moment I've already relived the final cutscene for 3 times
I really enjoyed the music for this season, definitely made the experience a lot more impactful
I just finished the last quest and I am so so so happy with this season. Absolutely perfect imo
Every time I think tgc can’t top something, they do, there’s no emote for what I’m feeling it’s just



🗣️
I sincerely hope we get stories as broad as this one in future seasons, past seasons were mainly just learning about something or restoring something instead of getting to live out a story
I definitely think they’ll do more stories like these, seeing how most people love it and really enjoy each and every quest
I think if there's one thing about this season that made me a bit sad is I felt so cheated during the memories on the slope since you had to race through in order to relive them and couldn't really look at the fragments
Maybe after completing the quest they could add a feature to let you look at the fragments in your own time (if possible) That’s definitely something to add to the feedback channel!
I agree. Gave that as feedback.. May be slow down as we jump, just enough to see the spirit pose/expressions or what they do
Either way I still adored this season and the pros definitely outweighed the cons, I'm gonna miss the yeti once the season ends
Or.. Show the kid doing the slide first (cutscene) with all the story needed in it and then we get to do the task later
I wish i can redo all Dream quests, from slope race to coliseum performance, every quest is fun even when its challenging!
goodbye prophecy trials
I miss watching the spirit skating in the village ngl, looks like she stopped after the performance unless that's a bug
Can't you redo them? It just won't give you a heart ofc
take a min to submit this in #beta-feedback , we all want her skating around :( it feels like she is there with us, not us being alone. Only official feedbacks can cause some changes 
We’re all rooting for skating girl
Now u remind me ,yes we cant relive from QG but we can go to the respective places for the spirit triggers 
Something about the ice skating performances makes them super fun I'm not sure what it is
Even when you're practicing in the fourth quest it's really nice getting to do it
By the way is the secret area still open in beta?
Yea i really like the fact that we practice with her !
and can we" buy" the tgc cape in beta? I mean, is it available in the shop?
Yes you can
The Dream quests are a complete movie. I felt like i grew up with her, witnessed her practice and perseverance, to achieving her championship. I felt like she is someone i personally knew. That is really amazing. Seeing her skating around in the rink whenever i enter Village constantly reminds me that im not alone and i should always be cheerful.
I remember in the yeti slope quest it was like "The spirit remembers a frightening memory" or something like that and I was so nervous about what would happen and it turns out that she was just scared and nothing actually happened
Honestly I'd be terrified too if I wasn't in awe of the landscape 
I can still see them... Reverse-bug!?
Excuse me eden available for android user yet?
I tired just few mins back. Mine crashed after pnr
I think it's not ready
I see thank you 
Dreams is just that self-proclaimed ‘feelgood movie of the year’, but actually enjoyable
@night hatch @river socket what do you think of the TS system in testing? Havent heard yout full opinions on it
Hi players of the broken version of sky
I’m referring to how you need the ap to purchase certain items from ts. I do not like that at all because it seems unfair.
Well as a whole i see this move as the most damaging move against non AP holders
It simply denies non AP from getting candles and mostly forces you to pay
It simply destroys the concept behind TS that is to give a chance to players to get cosmetics
Atleast make non AP holders pay and give the item for free to AP holders
Because if people knew about that, then they wouldn’t be complaining about the prices. They’d be complaining about how it’s not available to everyone like it was in the past.
Really hope it doesn't get implemented...
I agree, the beauty about ts is you can get past seasonal cosmetics and it’s available to everyone! But with that change, it’s not.
As a whole the move divided the beta comunity, between the ones who defend the action and the ones who condemm it
I really hope this does not get past beta version
If it does then i'll riot
I mean you’re right in saying it’s the broken version of sky, and with that I’m gonna step away again 
I do understand it holds non AP holders back, but it also makes AP hold more value for 10$, and reduces the issue people have with committing to cr grinds to stand a chance at gathering TS consistently. (Not sure where I stand personally just playing devils advocate) For these reasons I do see the logic behind it
just a reminder before we go into that territory that this debate is good to have but let's keep our opinions respectful and not insult anyone
it's ok to have differing opinions and even to dislike things but keep it kind when you say such 
Yes we will remain respectful
has anyone warped to a friend while the friend was in the 5th quest? if so, pls dm me an image. i think that it would be a really cool oob.
the true feelgoood movie of the year
Honestly, I can't see anything wrong with this. Seems like the best way to satisfy both f2p and AP holders
No no no I see what you’re saying. But think about it, everyone has the chance to get all the cosmetics. But when we are talking about real life currency not everyone can buy the ap.
More Ap than f2p it looks like..
But what i dont want in sky is to make it feel forced to pay to get a full experience, that's the point
“Powerful, can’t miss ⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐” - that sky game newspaper
Only problem would be if this was implemented and there would STILL be AP players complaining
This move mostly forces you to pay in order to get what you want and thats unfair
Outside of economics the way I see it, this move just limits the availability of past seasonal cosmetics.
Thats the tug of war. At this point, Sky is already a pretty full experience as a f2p. The paywall stuff is exclusive to cosmetics, not any function of gameplay. If you want it, its 10 bucks and done with the beta's system. Rather than 10 + any candle bundles you're willing to buy if you didnt have the time to cr.
pls not this argument again
Those are just toxic players who have its ego higher than orbit
Its better to ignore those players
Eh, hopefully tgc ignores those players too
Again, not everyone can use real life currency.
Just a friendly discussion
apologies if this has been run into the ground, I sort of missed all this
it fine...
TS works like a big shop giving discounts over old merch instead of getting rid of it
Complaining of non AP getting old seasonal cosmetics its more toxic than GW
no, the problem arises when you start calling people with different opinions toxic. If you want to have this discussion, do so without insulting others
Overall I’m gonna crap myself if this makes it to the live version.
yeh I dont care for the toxic argument either. Not what I was addressing (with respect luccio)
Complaining over players who cant pay its toxic behaviour
Its egocentrical and self centered
@river socket I lean towards keeping our current TS system too. Its the grind meta that this unintentionally encourages that I dont care for. Many of my friends adore this game, but are much more casual than we are about cr and ts. its rough trying to address it all..
I agree, this change is unfair and i prefer the old TS system that the one we have in beta
What "toxic" isn't—disagreeing with another's point of view.
What "toxic" is—abusive behavior toward another because of their differing opinion.
Damm @vapid briar is online, my chance to argue is here
Sorry to disappoint, but I'm not here to argue.
Er..... bad time to check on beta chat?
I'm more than happy to have a discussion though.
Y'allright there bud? Maybe drink some water and come back ?
I mean argue is to share points of view and all
Its not a fight, its a conversation with arguments
its better to word it as discuss. we dont want any arguments here
I dont understand what you see wrong with arguments
Its a conversation with multiple points of view, not a fight with the intention of fighting
My Knee jerk reaction to the beta ts system is its unfair, but I do get the ideas behind it. Cr grind is a big factor in the burnout I've seen of this game. I'm just wondering if it could work with edits instead of just throwing out the whole thing 
Depends if you're referring to argue/argument as a verb or a noun, but I totes didn't come in to be a pedant. 
Atleast that's how i see it, i do see people here who defend this change and others who are against it
We have been arguing over this topic to see what can be a better solution
Ofc some people may have been toxic but in the end its not a whole bad thing
Because in the end we all aim for making sky better to everyone
Hey ya'll how much do the Antlers cost? One of my friends wants to know because he looooooves deer
i haven't seen the topic reach a conclusion other than the discount system
hi i just got to the ||office|| and i was wondering what i do with the spirit sorry if this is the wrong channel
How many winged lights are there in yeti slope?
So going back to the topic, i do find this change unfair, the reasons can be justified? Yes they can but atleast for me its an unfair change to non AP holders
My solution, make the cosmetics free for AP holders, make the non AP holders pay candles and find new ways of gaining candles ingame
That's what i think
This isn't a topic that needs a conclusion. We all have different opinions, different lives, different perspectives, and they all deserve to be heard and respected
.3..... oops
The trouble with the TS concept is because there are so, so many different views on this, I feel.
agreed but I think they meant that a conclusion needs to be made regarding if the system will pass as is or not
That isn't up to the players to decide, but TGC. We should all say what we personally think to them, it's impossible for them to please everyone
For me its a fair system, this change is making it unfair to non AP holders and that's not good
A conclusion will eventually need to be made, but it isn't ours to make. That's up to TGC, we can talk all we want but in the end they have the final say
oh are we talking about the pass for the TS?
non-sequitur but logging onto Beta is weird right now, suddenly seeing this tiny bod
I promise that we've read all the feedback. Yes I've parsed through personally every happy, sad, bordering on toxic, disappointed, angry piece of feedback shared with us, constructive and unconstructive alike, and delivered that sentiment back to the team. We absolutely heard the community on this and are in the midst of making other changes and potentially going in a different direction.
Beta is for testing ideas and changes, not everything in beta lives through the gauntlet and survives.
I don't have any other information at this time, but I promise we heard you, and we're working on it. We only ask that you have patience and trust that we will do the right thing.
it is 14.99$ USD, but this is beta and prices are subject to change
@glass shoal i don't understand what you mean by which spirit. is it the feast staff spirit or the random office spirit of the day?
@next umbra 2! have a look around 
Free for AP, candle price stays for non AP. hey thats not bad 
@radiant drum ofc, but players' voices do influence Skys final decision
Well guys, in the end its our job to test fair and unfsir things in beta so our folks in live dont suffer hehe
iss the snowflake cape out yet?
This is why I lovehate this game and like its devs - they actually listen.
Believe me, I'm on the side of the f2p(There are no sides but I can't use money even if i wanted to), but the 195 candles in live for the Don't Go spirit is a little insane don't you think? An ap that people who do have money can gift you would shave that down by almost half.
Thank you TGC, for putting up with us lol. I imagine it can be exhausting
(as to the lovehate thing, I love Sky in itself, but there are aspects I can’t stand, and that weird balance is why I find it so interesting)
That's why i suggested to add new ways of earning candles instead of the long candle run
It's nice to hear that our feedback is being heard. I always try to word my feedback in a constructive way but I'm sorry that some peoples feedback on the situation hasn't been kind. No matter what happens, even if it ends up being a solution that inconveniences my friends, I will do my best to understand why that solution was chosen.
Even if we think that AP traveling spirits is unfair, they've made it clear they wouldn't intentionally make things unfair for the majority of the playerbase
yup, that was my biggest eye opener. Ts prices needs a good week and a half of religious candle sweeping. having the AP option would give me more time to..just enjoy sky a little
I usually hate mobile games, I didn’t expect a simple mobile MMORPG to have so much depth!
Thank you, honestly.
buy candles It makes sense that you have to put effort into cr though 
Yeah but in the end
What about people who cant spend a single dollar?
They will be the ones who will suffer more than everyone else
I like the idea someone suggested earlier, (I think is was Luccio?) That maybe those who do have the pass could get it for free, and if you don't have it you can still grind (or be gifted a pass or buy candle packs.) That way nothing from the TS is completely barred off from all players. Some people will still be unable to get it because they don't have people to get the pass from or can't grind, but I think it's a really good solution/option
it'd also give incentive for people to purchase AP if they could afford it, which does help TGC some
Luccio these comments would probably be best for #beta-feedback to make sure it gets heard (just make sure its constructive) - And people are aware of that, that's the main reason I'm taking the stance of don't fully block off parts of the TS to f2p players.
I am a little perplexed by the jelly hair price of the TS. I remember it was around 8-9 seasonal candles during the season and even though the TS prices are high...60-70 candles for that one hair? 
Im a totally F2P player, i have been able of getting gifted seasonal passes (thanks dear friends) but if im not able to get them i would really hate this change
Again, i see this move damaging the F2P comunity (the ones who cant spend a single dollar)
I get you for sure, that does sound rough :'/ some players simply dont have the funds
And again, these comments would be best for #beta-feedback to ensure it gets heard, ktjn might've been here recently but thats not a guarantee that they're still watching right now and relaying this to the other devs
This is just speculation, I haven't read anything one way or another on how they price the TS's, but I don't think it's a one-to-one seasonal to regular candle cost. I think there are other things that factor into it, namely that the season is over
Yes i have indeed shared my ideas in #beta-feedback lets hope this change doesent get beyond beta
The thing is I would have gotten the full tree of the ts if I had just candle ran every day I meant to before today, which is a lot of self blame. Blaming it on people who cant run every day for the ts would also make those players blame themselves as well.
If this change comes, they're gonna make passes giftable before season start, and people are more generous that you think
Even if ktjn is here and talking in chat, you should still put your feedback in the right place. It’s not that ktjn “saw” it but that ktjn needs to set aside time and read all of it, filter out the bad things, compile common points etc etc and send it off to the rest of the team
I absolutely cannot the last quest made me tear up it was so cute 🥺🥺 I love dream girlllll
Be good to them in #beta-feedback guys. And thank you all for being so open to discussion. tried this on reddit/youtube and it was heartbreaking to see people accuse tgc of being money hungry or something, of all things. :'I
But then again it contradicts the grinding factor right? Grinding affects everyone and so the prices should be a reasonable high
Yooo I just did the last quest and it made me CRY 😭
I have shared my views in #beta-feedback i just think its good to discuss this topic and not be divided
Also is dream girl supposed to still be standing instead of skating around? I miss skating around with her 🙈
People are never going to agree, and that’s ok
Our job isn’t to figure out a solution
I've been looking at beta screenshots and I had no idea where was a sauna there, now i'm curious and tryna look for it hehe
I dont envy the ones who have to make the decisions like this, what insane pressure lol
If I'm being honest I'm quite burnt out from discussing the TS change, it was brought up so often before the new season hit beta
The problem with a solution to both of the f2p and paying people, with free options for the f2p and free for people with pass, is that it will be a loss of money for tgc, as those willing to pay money for candles are the same people who are willing to pay money for the pass, as f2p are more likely to not spend money on those candles, which is how tgc gets money from these tses.
I just want everyone to be happy though, but I know that isn't possible 
Its to understand one eachother despite of our points of view
Don't make the same mistake I did, it's in the village, not yeti slope, now good luck ! 
I do understand everyone's opinion despite of not sharing mine, but i'll keep discussing this because as a F2P this move can damage the massive group that is free to play players
thanks for sharing @river socket and others
I understand things way better. will be moving on from the topic myself 
@feral pendant Exactly, the players spending money on candle packs are the same ones who can afford a pass. F2P players are more likely to save for the pass than candles if they think of spending some money into the game
will the hometrick patch come to live once dreams is out?
Discussion is always okay, just be aware it can get exhausting for yourself sometimes and to take breaks
as far as sending feedback to the devs goes, sending it once in the feedback channel is enough. Discussing here is more for fun, and to get other perspectives really, and will not influence TGC’s decision
It wasn't an intentional fix, i think? So it may or may not be coming (And it still works from the emote menu, I think it's just a setting's menu problem :))
Can't go to eden can somebody tell me why
i never even knew how great the final quest was, i loved when it was my turn to skate
it was not intentional but they probably are not going to go back on it
Yeah it was not an intentional fix, but doesn’t mean they will revert it. We just have to wait and see
Even if it’s a glitch, not an intended feature, you can always send feedback to them as well regarding the home trick 
Eden seems to be bugged for a lot of Android players right now. The devs are most probably trying to work out what's wrong, because even the latest patch did seem to help.
I am genuinely scared to see the outrage if it does make it, and people think it’s patched
It doesn’t affect me, I don’t use the home trick - I spam faint/play dead/drop dead (last one is probably the most accurate regarding the...memory cutscene...)
What was the change to the settings menu ui anyways? Other than making the icons smaller so you don't have to scroll I can't tell the difference or is that the difference 
If the new menu doesn’t show any bugs and everything is working as TGC intended it could well come to live in the near future 
Oh hay I found a new bug. The first winglight in Eden doesn't collect. It ACTS like it's collected, like it turns to starlight, but the wl quota doesn't go up, and if you backtrack after going out then in, ITS STILL THERE
If this patch remains on the build that will be used for the live version then i feel it might
as much as the glitch was useful for new players, it was a "glitch". sadly we can't get attached to unintended stuff
But if they cant (no funds available, parents may not allow them, etc)
They will just sit dissapointed because they cant get the cosmetic they want
And that's why i dont like this change, im someone who cant spend a dollar even if i want, i simply cant cuz im too young to have a credit card
I do not want this change to dissapoint the F2P players
(That's my last comment on this topic, thanks for listening me)
I find spamming faint more efficient - it cancels out the krill attack timer, and it doesn’t fling you across the map nor put others at possible risk
GUYS HOME WORKS IN EMOTE MENU AS DOES SPAMMING A STATIC EMOTE like faint, butterfly etc
I think the home glitch fix was due to the settings UI redesign
oo I will try that :o
Home trick is just a lot of fun, even if you don’t use it to escape attacks 😄
I just never used the home glitch. I prefer the whole observing and avoiding tactic.
That sounds like a bug or a networking issue where the servers are not registering that you collected that winged light. Or both. Please take a moment to submit a bug report in #beta-bugs-android #beta-bugs-ios
you dont often burn trees, do you 😉
Well in the end, its a "glitch" something that wasnt intended to be here
That's why i see the patch of home glitch inevitable
Also, practically playing dead makes a lot of sense in the context
Planned to report it :)
Yes I love to just fling myself and see wherever I land

No, I don't think I ever burnt the graveyard tree in my whole 2 years in this game.
But I have burnt many other big trees.
The only problem with the playing dead emote is that if someone gets caught by the krill and runs into your general area and you get hit, you will lose WL. So best to learn to hide!
Hugging in front of krill protects u as the krill gives u some privacy
sometimes you gotta sacrifice some winged light for some wax 
it would be cool if it goes out to skate a few minutes each day like the Easter eggs of rainbow in forest or mushroom circle in prairie 
hope one day there will be a "pin emote" option for easy access to fav emotes
wings are temporary drip is forever 😆
There is always a krill lover friend
u just have to find them when you want to burn the tree
me i'm the krill lover friend
probably a really stupidly obvious question but some people are calling one of the capes from this season a dress and i can't tell which one lol
I'm not joking 
The red light turns blue when u hug in front of krill
I sincerely see the patch of home glitch to not be a big deal, there is the server merge trick or you can just have 4 friends with you and burn that tree in no time
i've named the first GW krill Vikki
Krill: Hugging ? In 2020 ? illegal 
I'm also on the FB page, and people were FREAKING out :\
What do u say about the current TS? 
Honestly, the FB page freaks out about a lot of things unnecessarily. 😉
I mean, faintspam actually is more logical now I think about it
It depends on the creature, but if something was about to attack you, would you just stand there and let it tear you apart, or play dead - if that was a known method of survival
That can damage a lot the F2P comunity, i already talked a lot bout thst topic so i wont talk bout that again for a while
man i wanted to go finish the seasonal quests today because everyone talking about the finale being amazing (plus i still need to check the second quest timer again and see if yesterdays update was good) but idk if i can today 
I meant about the home glitch patch lol.. guitar spirit in Wasteland
in live
Nothing wrong with hometrick, I’m just overthinking it
the server merge trick will be affected too, a lot of people do the tree thanks to the home trick, I would say it could take 5 times more the time to get merge than before or even more
true. if we can't burn it it wont burn itself for others
You will need 8 people to burn the tree 
I think I said it yesterday, but when the Home button was patched to have a delay, I just stopped using that as an option to avoid being hit by krill.
what is server merge trick
It's where you try to server merge onto a server where the tree in graveyard is already burned
Its pretty hard, i was able to do it thanks to some players who spin tricked the krills
But yeah much more tense that other TS
Well I always use emote menu home glitch so I'm fine unless that gets patched for whatever reason, then I guess I'll learn emote spam
Crab spam works too for some reason
anything stationnary will work. but this method isnt 100% efficient
also graveyard will become a really common place for people with poor intentioned behavior that lead a krill attack to other users
be one with the crab, the krill can't tell the difference 
Oof i can imagine players launching moths against krills
I think they already do that anyway.
I mean.... theres nothing stopping them from doing that right now
The people theyre targeting probably arent those that know the home trick anyway
do people actually do that?!
i guess its finally time to learn how to dodge krill hihi
oh and catapult is going to get exciting
That's a thing that already happens, there's already been measures to prevent it 
that one time i krilled my friend by accident while they were meditating, i flew too fast and it locked on them instead 
Is the Bunny mask spirit bugged or something?
Ive been using the home trick this whole time, guess I gotta utilize other things now
oh well
I'll personally destroy whoever that feeds moths to krills
the graveyard tree can be burned with two people, but it takes a lot of time, patience,and a sacrifice and coordination
oh my god, (spoilers for last cutscene) ||oh my god, my sky kid is chibi and the cheering part was just, tall tall smoll tall
and then i didn't know what to do for the rest of the cutscene so i'm going to relive it
||
Is the Bunny mask spirit bugged or something?
@neat wadi
I cant seem to get it-
Oh yeah I kept missing the button to do the welcome emote
I should go back and try again
yeah but a lot of people have a method to protect themselves when someone do that, the home trick getting fix would make this a lot worse, I think that's pretty obvious
4 people with ability can burn the tree in seconds
Also you can ask aid to veterans in #looking-for-group-live or #beta-looking-for-group
But thats betting on the fact that those 4 people meet up, and arent hindered by others. I tend to not help bc Im more of a hinderance w burning the trees than anything (flying is hard when you have less than 30 fps)
Well i gtg, i enjoyed the discussion around TS change and i hope everyone a good day!
i've found that if you have 3 experienced players, one burning each leg, and time touching down perfectly, you don't need home trick at all, but it makes me sad for those who wouldn't get the opportunity to learn how to do it 
for IOS players there's always the 'minimizing the app trick', and you dont get flung
there's the trick of "git gud"
So the Sled spirit keeps restarting even though I still have time left, is it always like that?
oh wow, that's still persistent? that's not supposed to happen, spirits don't reset halfway through their memories
I've never used homespam, only emote
anyways doesnt the emote home trick work still-
When I use the dead emote against krills it never works
Yeah I was testing emotes just now, pointing, begging for forgiveness (deep bow) and playing dead work, trying to fight the krill with kabuki does not 
Oh, thanks Owl, I was just about to ask a question about that.
Can we do the spirit quests again and again?
I think the only cutscene you can relive is the last one thou 
Ah you were talking about cutscene my bad
seems like the cutscene is part of the quest itself, that might be why
Just met the two most amazing people in beta
I never meet anyone in beta
It feels kinda lonely
most of my friends are regulars from this server
I should get some beta friends through this serv someday
I get lonely farming my seasonal candles alone
Most of my beta friends are people who friended me for a quest 
I have like 2 beta friends and we're never online at the same time
How much is antlers and snowcape?
$14.99 and 
Update: since all stationary emotes work for emote spam, handstand, scared, salute, telekinesis, and levitate also work
(I don't have any seasonal emotes to test in beta)
what's up with emotes
To dodge krill with !
(Oh god wrong discord account-)
hold on so we can just levitate out of a krill kill?
Thanks claws, though everything is still subject to change, that information gave me more approximation how much should I allocate for the upcoming xmas IAPs
I just use the ios trick against krills. Still works.
so in that new area does anyone know what that extra locked door is?
i have 2 theories if not.
theory #1 tgc is future proofing the new area by adding a door they will use for some future season
theory #2 its an enterance to aviary. im hoping this is the case.
Do you mean the second side door in the stadium area?
Aviary? Wasn't that old home?
i prefer to use the words "better home"
Maybe they meant the citadel?
How to avoid Krill 
run
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Maybe thats where the rest of the villagers were shifted since we skykids took over the village
The extra locked door is the spirit's attempt at privacy (and symmetry)
im going to sob the climbing up the mountain spirit reset at the final stage 
A wild Krill (tjn) appears!
:0 lol
im hoping its not just an enterance to citadel
i want aviary so much it stings...
heck, i think it would be a great idea to bring aviary back but keep current homespace too
if they made it so you could choose what map you wanted your home to be
could add a couple other choices too to customize homespace
maybe they could add little accessories you could decorate it with too (like the little banners that were in 2018 beta aviary)
and yeah ill do that
Feel like aviary would toast some lower end phones though 
didn't they have to get rid of the old home because it was too gpu intensive
hold on lemme google what the aviary looked like
Essentially yes, it nuked phone performance and battery.
That, and people weren't really going into the realms to play the game. 
I do hope it comes back in some form that is more manageable
clouds heal skykids but they break phones
what about previous season
that place is huge and it nuked a lot of peoples phones
even so, it doesnt seem impossible to remove some polygons or optimize the area i mean it was vert early in development after all
You guys made me nostalgic of a time I didn't even know in the first place
Since global launch, we've taken elements from Aviary and put them in the game in other places.
Though citadel entrance would be really nice, who wouldn't want to skip the races
, and it would also provide a way to go back to the start at the ice rink without going home
Oh no how badly will this season run on my phone compared to the ipad normal valley already lags
sanctuary islands were big but it still didnt have many clouds
Ok hear me out, aviary, but simplified to be a possible seasonal area. We still have places like forest and vault that need a season 
YES
i think that would be a good compromise
sanctuary is already really laggy and power intensive for my phone. imagine aviary running on my phone. it would probably crash and burn 
Once y’all see pictures you’ll notice that Prairie social space looks super similar to Aviary
i have more problems in valley than sanctuary but it could also be the fact that in valley my phone has to do alot more quickly as my character is going fast. idk how sky's engine loads stuff in
also, slight side thing i think it would be kinda cool to see a mini documentry along the lines of "making a season" see some behind the scenes stuff along with actual footage of the real office
A thing about the home space is that... I really don't think it feels like home? It's too.. grounded, not aerial enough for us children of light who fly all the time
this would be so cool
I haven't had time to watch them, but there's livestreams on the tgc youtube website of that exact thing (i think) 👀
My phone's biggest enemy is Vault tho. It's like a stop motion movie ever single time when go there.
I think we need a final cutscene for the current season.. Not the final quest but the cutscene when u return to the ancestor spirit
my top 3 phone burning areas in sky:
- vault
- sanctuary islands
- forest
._.
if there was, a more formatted and not hectic due to being live streamed approach would be cool too
just so we get bits of info we otherwise wouldnt have seen in a live stream
my phone handles the entire game badly but its a cheap xiaomi phone
Eden burns more for me..
Temp spikes and cooldown, temp spikes and cooldown
would be a little tricky considering the team hasn't seen the real office since march 
My xiaomi runs everything extremely smoothly
Like, I've never seen the game be as smooth as on my phone on anyone else's phone ^^'
I suddenly forgot everything I know about sky.
I think Eden overheats the most for me ?
not saying it has to be right away XD
There is a final cutscene for Prophecy. It's when you complete the final trial and head towards the monolith, then you can light the braziers on the different floating platforms to show the final additions to the murals
i have redmi note 7 which costs 150$ rn lol
Can we have the valley spirits as moving NPCs in the village so that it becomes livelier?
I have a MI Lite 8 but that's slightly off topic isn't it?
some of xiaomi's other phones have very good specs but mine is cheaper
We already see them in four places (realm, social space, home table, orbit table), I don't think they have a horcrux left for the village 
I would very much like to see upgraded normal pants 
I love the skykid npc that gets you in the ||office|| I wish we had more similar npcs
I meant current season in beta 
all in all though, yeah i would be super hype about aviary becoming a future season. maybe the areas the doors lead to connect to each area in some way so its still connected but theres a space in between that has some purpose in the season
what if there were the spirit version of strangers in the village so basically unlit skykids but taller
We used to do livestreams and show off the early concepts of seasonal content and answer questions from the community about the development process. These days it comes in the form of preview and dev blog/interviews.
Omg seeing every spirit just hug and congratulate the player and the performer would be so emotionally satisfying
nothing's really changed about final cutscenes, only the requirements that did, before you HAD to own and 100% the season in order to view it
livestreams 😍 I would love to see those livestreams
im glad they changed the final cutscenes even though i have the pass, it seems dumb to have to pay for a cutscene lol
Having more spirits walking around the village would be cool, but that might be another thing that would be hard on devices, since your phone would have to render them and track their movement and all of that, it's more work on TGC's end and on your device lol
in any case im supposed to be sleeping, can someone please summon skybot to tell me to sneep snorp thanks
Oop it worked, imma go sneep now
#beta-discussion needs some SNEEP SNORP 
Weren't you also able to rewatch cutscenes as much as you wanted, That would be nice again just for while the season is still running

yes, i would watch them by accident

it was only rhythm that i experienced, as much as i'd love to rewatch the cutscenes, i prefer the new format more. i was so bitter when i couldn't watch the belonging 100% cutscene
Skybot its 2 pm 
the last cutscene requires a pass? :0
honestly if it did in beta nobody would know because everyone gets the pass for free
Pre enchantment seasons: Sorry you can't sit with us, you're too poor
Maybe next time I wont buy the preorder, just to see what happens 
it required you to 100% the season, that also required a pass, so good luck if you couldn't afford to do either
i wish people with the pass got 2 free candles a day or the number of candles needed should go down to 300
What pass requiring final cutscene
i'm talking about the older seasonal format here, it's long gone 
Now the cutscenes are tied to the special quests that you do in the seasonal area, dark is talking about old seasons before Enchantment. It doesn't require the pass to see the cutscenes anymore
i was pointing out that nothing's changed, only the requirements that did
Glad i didn't play sky before then,i would have cried every single season because i can't afford the AP
did the rhythm quest giver grow up and become a mum and is now the dreams quest giver?!

i just have to hope i somehow get a gift card every couple months so i can get the pass
People would usually post them on youtube or something anyway, but the old seasons were also less story-driven than the more recent ones so the cutscenes were kind of just something for fun and not as big of a deal as the ones especially in this season that tell a full story
I just hope I get a pass gift every season from somebody somehow by luck 
yes but watching them on youtube doesn't hit the same, that's not my skykid sitting with the belonging family
It does seem like the reigning theory that they're related, or may even be the same,
I'd like to point out thou, that the rhythm dancer and juggler also have the same mask, and dancer didn't appear this season, but you could use their emote
(you could also use welcome but lets ignore that)
is that a genuine theory? i can't take it seriously
Wasn't the Rhythm quest giver already an adult? If not, they were like a 6 ft child lol
But the mom has sparkler hair.. if u come to think, sparkler is a valley spirit too
reusing assets is convenient, yo!
But sparkler appeared in the same scene as the qg
, the mask looks special to rhythm, but to me, anyone can tie their bangs back with a pin ? 
The sparkler spirit can be seen in the final cutscene I think, along with some of the other Valley spirits. Also the family in Belonging was already its own thing. I know it's fun to make lore out of everything, but yeah it's probably more that they are just reusing stuff that already exists in the game files instead of creating new spirits for everything
is it possible to get from the stadium back to the village without flying
My phone lags too much on the sliding task in the village, so I'm still stuck in that part.
It happened as I thought, the quest giver doesn't wear the ultimates cuz she kept it for her daughter to wear it in her debut show
Spirit content is hard to come by we are simply leeching off the scraps 
but this means we are stealing from a child when we buy them
Imagine the time, when TGC runs out of ideas for new seasons
Hey we danced with her those clothes were a gift 
What's a spirit gonna do? They can't wear them they're see through 
Nah, the performance already happened a long time ago, we were just reliving the memory. And now she shares the outfit with us as well so we can live our own skating dreams 
Just out of curiosity, how many winglights does the new areas give?
Thank you! You guys rock!
Girl bear hugs mommy

How many New stars Will be in the New map?
wait if the qg is the older skater why is she giving herself the ult gifts that has to be the mom
Village stars map anyone?
I asked for help but no one is replying to me in #beta-looking-for-group 
This is also in line with the Leap movie, it doesn't have to be the mom, it can be the mentor
(eyes but shaking)
I saw Just three but i dont know if tgc added more
Ah yeah I put that in my feedback - seeing them interact made me really confused since I thought the quest giver was the girl but older
On topic of possible ts changes towards ap locks and stuff. Right now people that can't buy an ap are already arranging itfor themselves through in-game currency. Some participate in events. Others trade up to 100 hearts for a pass. Or offer daily cr for the sponsor. Do you think this market will spike once the ts become at least semi- ap-locked?
how do you think thins might impact the balance of the game?
idk but we shouldn't really discuss trades on this server
interactable spirit cutscenes make my brain turn sometimes, The bell to catch the spirit's attention in Belonging, the whole Belonging cutscene where you could sit with the family, and now the Dreams cutscenes, makes you wonder how recent events were, or if, someone was there in place of you, and you took their spot 
Oh that somehow never crossed my mind, there's a risk of that spiking, yeah.
But be careful with your wording, that stuff isn't allowed to be talked about here
Trades shouldn’t be discussed as it is not encouraged by the community
I don't really intend to discuss the trades. I know they're not supposed to happen. I'm more interested about your thoughts about the consequences of ap locks beyond the ts-thing
#beta-looking-for-group please anyone
It's more that it causes strife and fights and problems in a discord as big as this, so you can't set them up here
im just hoping that tgc realizes what a terrible idea the ap lock thing is and it never goes past beta lol
TGC's probably gonna scrap it cuz there's more backlash than appreciation towards the TS AP lock
AP-locked TS will cause f2p veterans to slowly quit cr or sky all together
i already buy the pass but honestly i would probably stop supporting tgc in that way if that ever happened
i like sky because until now it doesn't constantly force you to pay like other games
Please can someone come to #beta-looking-for-group
And other famous games are already risking sky.. like a lot of players are moving over to Genshin and some are playing both of them.. if this happens then it will do more harm than good..
yea. I know. there's much backlash towards what's being tested now. But, afaik eventually, TGC intends to change the ts system a bit to make it less grindy, right? Using an AP to lighten the load for some players is a viable solution for me. Maybe not really a "lock", but I wont be surprised if they use AP in some manner. That's why I've been thinking about the possible rise of the AP black market
im fine if they make the ap give half the items for free or something like that
Just a reminder that it’s not a bad thing if players move on from a game, it doesn’t mean they hate it, people grow out of stuff, people move on, try not to bash other games in favor of sky
the hot spring in new seasonal map look like this dude 
genshin is a very different game and i don't think it tries to replace sky. honestly i doubt any mobile game company would ever make games like sky other than tgc
What can the soulmate spell do?
How is there no one on Sky to help me in #beta-looking-for-group right now?
yeah, genshin is a very different game from sky. they both have great graphics, but the mechanics of the game are very different.
#beta-looking-for-group tends to be one of the emptier channels sadly. a lot of people don't really check that channel, so while they're online, they don't see if people need help. i would help you if i could, but i can't play cause of google ;v;
there are plenty of games that are coming and going in the trends right now but other games wouldnt have an affect on sky because they are different genres and such, people tend to move on or stay and thats up to them
plus give sky a chance once the switch release is out, I believe itll become more mainstream that way
So how do you do the final quest?
Yes but I've been asking for a while now for people in this channel to check what I said in #beta-looking-for-group because I really need help and can't sit here for hours doing nothing while waiting on someone to hopefully reply to me.
i feel like with some people they immediatly say sky is a bad game because its on mobile
i'm suggest you need to wait until you got both ult gift then do it
@spark lance Beta is pretty sparse in general. Plus finals week. I would help but I'm on a CR with someone rn, I'd feel rude if I left. If you're still looking for help when we're done I'd be glad to help though!
And get to the colosseum or is it not ready? Please help trying to do final quest
I got a question do I wanted to do the soulmate spell wi the my friend but i don't know how if works
Does anyone knows smt about it?
I don’t think the spell works
does we able to get 19 candles per day yet?
No I doesn't... But the player base is already shifting towards it and most of them try to balance between the two games.. But if they force players to pay like using AP locks and all they wouldn't bother to play sky cuz they already have another game to play..
And it has variety too
Alrighty thanks for answering uwu
Is the last quest not available? 😦
you light the candles at the statue in front of the village exit gate at the coliseum, it should activate a meditation spot
not everyone plays genshin and i doubt thats the reason why people will quit
Didn't know it was finals week for school because I'm not in school. Sorry.
the biggest risk sky has of dying is TGC releasing their next game lol
Not specifically Genshin I mean... Other games that become trendy too
i think since sky is still growing in its popularity , i dont see another game coming out anytime soon
sky isn't really a "trendy" game so i don't think that applies. some people constantly hop between trendy games but i doubt many sky players would
you should able to do right now lol
I think Sky is way ahead of any other game being able to run these graphics on just phones alone
I think they've already hinted that they are working on another game, but it probably won't be soon. Sky was in development for 7 years, they can still run Sky and work on new things as well
Its from my experience tho.. some of my friends almost quit sky.. although they were dedicated candle runners and pro ubers.. so idk
i guess sky doesnt always have newer things to do? it can get a little repetitive but thats why people play multiple games
I know the feeling cause candle runs get old very fast
hopefully they release more games like journey and not sky. from a business view it makes more sense to keep adding new seasons and adventure passes to one game so i doubt they will make another multiplayer game like sky. instead they might make a paid game like journey where its the "roller coaster" instead of a "theme park"
papa’s sushiria 
i personally think theres way too many players to make it seem the game is dying if some left it for another game, theres millions of us
They should add the light awaits quests and other events into the current game.. it had a lot of interesting things
Sky feels less like a theme park and more of a virtual country you can call home 
Ktjn said they’re aware of our excitement for little quests and that they might work on similar things in the future
I tried the third quest race again
Shouldn't it have an active timer where your time gets less and less instead of a timer like the regular spirits have without a limit to complete?
i just remember that TGC said they pictured sky as a theme park instead of a roller coaster like journey
If you mean the one in the yeti slope, that one doesn't have a timer. It's only the second one on the ski slope area that has the quick timer
Yea that’s why I said it 
Ohhh I must have been tired the first time i did it
thanks
supposedly sky was going to be a game like journey and then apple told TGC nobody was buying mobile games so they made it a free to play online game and it worked because i spent like 40$ on sky when i would probably buy a game for 5$
what does the soul mate spell do?
I don't think they've activated the spells for the next set of pins yet, they haven't mentioned anything in #beta-announcements about them yet, I don't think. So right now they don't do anything
Oh the spells work, some are bugged thou, it’s just that the soul mate spell can’t be tested as well because it can only work with the other person who has the pin
oh ok thx
Anybody's already report about bug that we can't go to eden?
Yeah that too I guess. They might figure out a way for people to test it later, but it's probably not as much of a priority right now as the seasonal stuff, since the next pins won't even be shipped until like March or so
The soulmate spell is supposed to show an effect on you and your soulmate that other players can see
yeah, a lot of people (specifically mostly players on android) seem to be having trouble with eden at the moment. submitting a bug report would be helpful.
The TS lock system wouldn't have been a big deal if it was like that from the start
i would probably have been less likely to keep playing the game
i liked how sky didn't shove any IAP in my face lol
We need new realms but...
we would have to candle run longer

we wouldn't have to, we would just have the option of getting a couple more candles
I feel like if it was like that from the start we would be having the opposite problem - with tgc trying to get rid of the ts lock and vets objecting to it
why would anyone object to that, thats just stupid
Yes, but then they would increase TS prices cuz some more candles would be available

Objecting to something looks stupid until you try to look at the other side's perspective and reasoning behind their logic, remember that not everybody has the same thought process and logic isn't universal
their logic doesn't exist
Lets be polite to those that might think that - But I've heard that some vets (not all though) want to keep their seasonal cosmetics as exclusives
(ohh no a several people are typing.... did i start up the debate again?
)
This game however is not about exclusivity
How is eden for android? Sorry to insert in this heated discussion
did i walk in to the ts debate again 
i'm fine with ultimate gifts staying exclusive forever, but the other cosmetics should be available later. also a ts lock wouldn't make them exclusive it would just give TGC more money
Very much crashing, haven't heard any Android player make it through into PNR yet
TGC has stated that the adventure pass lock on traveling spirits will actually decrease their revenue
I don't really take issue with these debates but in all honesty they're pretty much the same and I rarely see a new perspective brought in to these discussions from either side
Yeah- I hope I didn't start it back up again, I just wanted to make one comment 
Is the snowflake cape coming with candles?
yeah it seems like we’re just going in circles here. veterans wanna be exclusive, new players want a chance to be able to get the cosmetics. i haven’t really seen anyone attempting to see from the other sides pov
we don't know, since it isn't out yet.
then what is the point of all of this. i can understand vets wanting their items to never be available but this is dumb
Sky players aren’t a hive mind, not all veterans want one thing and not all new players want another
Eehhh.. still waiting for snowflake cape to come

i think the point is to attempt to make it fair for all players regardless of join date
I think the biggest issue with these debates is that it's pretty much become shifted to an extent where it appears black and white to people, and then new people are introduced to the discussion through this "Everything is black and white" mindset, contributing to said mindset and then that just continues to grow
i can understand if some people want traveling spirits to be gone forever and seasonal items be completely exclusive but not this. people will still be able to buy them and they won't stay exclusive
You have to take into consideration that people paid real money for those cosmetics once, and the AP lock makes it so that the players who paid money for them don’t feel as betrayed by the cosmetics later returning for in game currency
yeah that’s what i’m trying to grasp at i’m bad at wording things
it also costs a lot of candles to buy from ts
With Dreams I actually started to understand that there’s not a need for new realms, since some of our new areas are as big as existing realms already, the realms are set in the very very limited lore, so every new area just gets put in a category of “sand, grass, forest, snow, death, and secrets” 
So, think of the realms as aesthetics, and the actual area has the potential to be bigger than we could imagine 
Isnt it just reason is exclusivity issues
I'm personally in a grey area with these debates - I see it from both sides as a I'm veteran with free to play friends. I just want what's best for my friends honestly
candles =/= money
But to get them with in game currency, it consumes a lot of time candle running...
You are actually buying time with the money
ah yes, my favorite realm, death
if they paid 10$ for each of these cosmetics then yeah, i understand it but they paid 10$ for the whole season and got everything much easier than new players
10 dollars in american money, many people have already said that in other countries, it is, much, much higher, sky isn't an american game 
Don’t get me wrong. I’m all for inclusion and I would love for every player to be able to get the opportunity to be able to collect those previous seasonal cosmetics. I’m merely saying that I also understand why they would think an AP lock might be a solution to this (never ending) debate
i think a lot of people don’t take into consideration that the game is aimed at younger kids who are more likely to not buy in app purchases so getting traveling spirits with the ap lock will be difficult. but in reality if a kid 8-10 is playing the game most of the time i doubt their main focus will be on getting the traveling spirits
well since sky is developed in America... it kinda is an American game
$10 is very costly here
Me still not doing the last quest yet...
well now this just means that the people in america can get it more easily and people from outside usa should have the chance to get it
it doesn't really matter, TGC already said they probably wouldn't do it
I'd like to note that candle running every day for at least 2 hours is a level of devotion that should be rewarded, although granted paying real money for a game is also a pretty big sign of devotion towards the game
this is why i like how ultimate rewards are exclusive
Ads after collecting 5 candles ..
Income generation from players candle running

Although I must admit I do find it odd that people are entirely willing to drop the game over this change, considering half of the collectibles coming from the ts are still available to you. A lot of people tend to act like cutting the reward in half is straight up saying "You have to pay to experience the traveling spirit at all"
candle running everyday for 2 hours is also quite unhealthy though and if someone is seriously devoted to doing it everyday, i’m worried
I think the whole idea behind the AP lock is to make it easier for new players too. Cosmetics behind the AP lock will be granted to you for free by buying the connecting node, thus relieving some of that pressure to have to collect so many candles for each traveling spirit
almost all the cosmetics people want is on the pass, also in response to jake alot of people can't pay, people that could already pay can still buy candle packs
In all fairness, it's because candle running for 2 hours is stressful that TGC was inclined to make this change
oh i walked into a ts debate
Its easier to collect 10 candles than earning money on ur own tho
so is the order of channels topsy turvy for anyone else
Um... did the channels suddenly shuffle around for anyone else?
and lag?
I really have to stress this point. Buying a pass every 3 months is in no way even close to buying candle packs every 2 weeks for a ts. Like these prices are ranges apart. If someone can afford a pass, it absolutely doesn't have to mean they can also afford candle packs.
i think they should just give half cosmetics from ts for free for people with the pass and have normal prices for people without
I'm a grind player everyday non stop.. candle run everyday,now i have 4 figure candles. And buy AP from Sanctuary to Prophecy (Dreams next), about that ts system I don't wanna think so much..
i- did anyone else just see what happened to the channels
It rearranged.!
its still happening

They're changing back it seems
The alignment of the channels has shifted and now the debate has been settled, can't believe it was that easy
channel did a chacha
💃
beta feedback and invites are in the wrong spots thats gonna bother me oh no oh wait they got fixed
some admin is just laughing at all of us watching the channels change rn
(this may be a large text wall i’m not sure, if it is my apologies, i’ll try to make it as short as possible)
i guess we could look at which one outweighs the other
ap lock is useful for:
- veterans who had to have an ap to get the cosmetics in the original season
- people who candle run everyday for hours (less candles)
- people who already plan to devote to collecting cosmetics in the current season
ap lock is not useful for: - free to play players who can’t spend money on a pass
- younger kids who are unable to spend money on iaps but still want to collect previous cosmetics
(i probably missed something)
How funny would that be if it was intentional to distract us
Don’t forget we’re here to test the new traveling spirit system. Anything about it can still be changed, so make sure to leave your opinions and ideas about it in #beta-feedback 
I like how we have a popular traveling spirit in live today and season of dreams final cutscene but the most interesting topic at this very moment is "Oh look the channels changed for half a minute"
I feel like calling a normal discussion a debate is what causes people to not want to participate
once i did that on a server i was admin on lol so maybe
yeah it seems like a lot of people forget this is beta and this may not be implemented into the actual game.. it gets way too heated when it’s not even live yet
Ah... true. We should stop calling it that then
It sounds good but I have no idea how would a TS tree have to look to make it clear how it works.
was beta invites always below known issues or is that just me over scrutinizing
It is for me
i think it was above-
exactly like seasonal spirits if you have the pass, if you didn't it would look normal with a message at the bottom telling you you could buy the pass to get free stuff
Well if that’s the case keep your google and Facebook and the internet...

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Saying that it’s an American game doesn’t mean it’s for Americans only lol
It’s literally an American game
it is probably made with an american audience in mind but that doesn't mean other people can't play
and made with 2% milk
snort Do people still care about yeti man it seems like everyone forgot about my favorite gentle giant
At the same time it’s a non argument seeing that it’s not exclusive to USians. So what exactly is the point of bringing up that’s it’s made in the US?
Because many people think that it isn’t and make arguments based on that
I thought you meant the ap items would be available for people without the ap for candles but free for people with the ap?
I’ve seen so many people think that sky was made in Japan or China and get confused as to why some things are American centric
thats what i meant maybe i didn't word it correctly
it was brought up because someone said “10 dollars in american money, many people have already said that in other countries, it is, much, much higher, sky isn't an american game”
Sky was intended to be a global game, and limited live if i recall correctly wasn't even in the usa? I think ?
Right so, it wouldn't be just with us in mind
Even if things are global, they are still thinking about American things in mind which is why things are based on American pricing, etc
Philippines, Singapore, Norway and some more countries
TGC is based in america right?
I don't understand this discussion
what's happening
Yes California
TGC is based in the clouds
Is eden still bug ?
Santa Clarita Monica to be specific 
(thanks Seraph, I don't have brain today
)
the cost in other countries is unfortunate and pricey but tgc also isn’t responsible for the cost of the item in your country and since it’s developed in america it’s gonna be whatever price is most appropriate in america
Not Santa Clarita lol, Santa Monica
But that part doesn’t matter bc they are working from home
It’s based on the US yes, which is why the prices are expensive for many parts of the world. However, it wasn’t intended for a US exclusive audience to my knowledge
the pollution filled clouds of californa
Exchange rates and taxes apply

Santa Monica = Santa = Santa Claus = Omgee TGC is Santa's Workshop
Eyoooo hi from euro countries that actually pay more for IAPs 😂
Imagine if TGC base on the UK(Pound Sterling) or Europe (Euro)..

What hairs do you all think go best with bunny mask ♡?
im pretty sure that google and apple are the ones converting the prices as well
10 dollars to americans is a little over an hours wages even for minimum wage earners. I think part of the problem with comparing the number you see on the screen is that the number means nothing without the context of the entire economy behind it. something that’s 1 dollar is over 100 yen. but both items are considered “cheap” items in their respective countries (oh no I woke up skybot)
How many kids would a skykid kid if a skykid could kid kids?
12
Sky kid
if you’re not from america/the ap is pricey in your country what’s your opinion on the ap lock
3
Apple has an outrageous % that drives the prices on iOS up like crazy tho. Everything in sky is cheaper on android
Wait really? Cheaper how?
if i said the AP costs 1000 cents to someone who knew nothing about america they would say it was expensive
And there's me, preplanning and scheduling memes to post when season of dreams goes live
Google and apple has different prices in my country, and surprisingly buying IAPs in apple any plattform is cheaper than the google ones here.
I mean it’s ok for west/north euro countries. But minimum wage in my country is already quite different to some of the eastern euro countries, let alone someone in Indonesia where it can be a weeks worth of groceries
Google and Apple have the same 30% rate, they just handle regional pricing differently
Moth hair, Frightened Refugee Hair, Confetti Bow, Pointing Candlemaker hair(my personal favorite), Battlebraid, Blushing Prospector Hair,
Whoops my bad
@tough oracle to be fair the exchange rates are basically constants so it could be almost impossible to say that there's a country were everything would be cheaper for everyone if things are made there, the thing that could affect that are laws about the workers and we don't talk about that here 
Ty! I noticed moth hair has a werid clipping issue with bunny mask that makes it look funny :/
Ok but world doesn't end with American. There are lots of countries where $ 10 is a monthly electricity bill. So please let's not make this a privilege issue.
ap is $13.99 where i am, excluding whatever goes through the purchase like taxes and stuff. i personally don't mind the ts lock lol, i never really minded it. as long as i get my emotes then i'm a happy moth. i don't really care that much for cosmetics n' stuff 
the biggest difference with the prices is that on android devs have more freedom to do something like accept other payment options like paypal and credit cards with no play store tax. on the app store they would be banned if they did this. this doesn't affect sky tho as they have no other payment options
No one is trying to make it a privilege issue? It’s just that since the devs are american they have to price things with American wages in mind so they can like. Continue to develop the game
me on my way to the US to save €2,76 on my next adventure pass 🤪
Money is a thing that exists, and that's all I am going to acknowledge here
Yea true! My point is mainly on the ‘It’s from the US, so therefore deal with being from a less privileged country, and not be able to pay for AP’ undertone in some of the arguments presented
how did we get to privilege from an adventure pass 
I mean, it's something TGC really can't do anything about. They develop videogames, not control the international economy, BUAHAHAHA
yay... another argument 
I feel like this has been discussed so many times...
The best win/win option suitable for everyone is to keep the app locked items avaliable for candles if you don't have the AP and completely free if you do.
No ones arguing...
The whole discussion on the AP and the TS lock revolves around that doesn’t it?
nobody was talking the ap anymore but ok
I don't care about the new TS changes honestly.
The real feature we need added into Sky is Fall Damage

Well you're not wrong...
That final quest still bring tears to my eyes as someone who's still feeling lost in this world, I feel so happy and sad at the same time.
We had fall damage but they took it out when prophecy came to live
I miss it every single day
no please do NOT bring bonk damage back. I did NOT miss that feature in the slightest
Rip burning out in valley ice tunnel
You can’t lose your flame from falling anymore???
i wouldn’t really consider it privilege honestly it all depends
Never going to forget my friend somehow losing their light in the prairie from fall damage
I liked bonk damage because true friendship is laughing when a friend loses a star from crashing into a wall
and here i thought i had just become really good at sliding through ice tunnel
We did have them, but it got removed early prophecy
I miss going bald in valley
bonk damage was fun because i could die in home space and confuse everyone there
A friend of mine lost 3 wings from the valley tunnel
tbh when the new season come to live, we should wait until the day you got all ultimate gift, then do it
Oh is that why crashing into the eden portal at home doesnt do anything anymore? 
my brain is way too fogged for ts system discussion. i’ll see you later beta chat if this ends eventually 
note to self: do not add sera in game
I joke. I’m just reaaallllly clumsy and would lose my stars a lot back then
Rest In Peace the peaceful honk you get when you don’t have light anymore
Nah, that was bonk damage.
Fall damage is damage taken when landing from a high place.
Let's say you're airborne for 1 minute. Every second airborne is a wedge of damage. So flying for 30 seconds is an instadeath
But sky kids are floaty
I used to slam headfirst onto the ice rink in the valley way too often and all of my friends would laugh at me because I would just explode and lose a star
That ultimate gift was THE ULTIMATE GIFT and for a reason.
They would never fall at the velocity to cause that
unless youre in vault and spam faint
Woah, I’m anything but a precise and safe leader in valley, but never managed to lose a star there
let alone 3
tbh the only feature that can top fall damage are having Krills at Daylight
I should start reading the patch notes sometime 
do not do the last quest until you got both ultimate gift in liver server 
Yes. You should.
The tunnel that leads to the forest underground always made me lose a star, still scared of it 
days of mischief should have added krill everywhere
Glad the ap discussion stopped 
patch notes are super useful omg
and what is yalls obsession with krill in places they should not be
ooh, can Karen and Richard get loose from the graveyard on days where SC are in daylight?
you're welcome~
As I said, fall damage can solve all problems.
People are always going to discuss the adventure pass changes, you can’t really be upset people are discussing beta changes in the general beta discussion channel
Why did the dancing performer loose his rythm pants tho?
you can have krill hug anywhere 
patch note reading huhh... did anyone find the relocated rock in sanctuary ?
Krill in isle when you just started playing sky?
starting sky with a blast
liver server also im wayy too impatient for that
im going to do that in my dragon mask performer outfit once i get the gat and rabbit pants with the pipa
Oh I’m not upset about people discussing, I just know those discussions can get really heated so I sit back and take cover whenever they arise
Prophecy is ending, yet the Sanctuary rock is still in disguise 
It only gets heated if people let it
Antlers vs snowflake cape 
Who said yes? Tell me the location
does anyone know what the relationship spell soulmate do?
Ok but by the time the last quest comes in live a lot of people will already have the ults 
i somehow just realized yeti hair is actual hair so i can be yeti chibi
Most of the time people are just discussing calmly but people are painting it as a heated debate
Season of Dreams is a season that exists, and it's a good one too
I thought it was a dream
Snowflake cape + Yeti pants look so amazing
There will be twins dancing on the ice rink
OMG JUST LIKE TWIN ELDERS
Def not getting both antlers and snowflake cape. Way too rich for my blood :')
I'd suspecting it's for the twin pins from the new merch box. It's supposed to have an "effect everyone can see" when you're holding hands with the soulmate.
catch me doing the quests days later so i can truly enjoy it without strangers everywhere 
The Admiring Actor copyrighted his pants, and since the Dancing Performer was wearing them, he sneaked into his house late at night and stole them.
Either that, or they're brothers. I mean, they're both super toll stick spirits that seem to have a relatively sizeable reputation
a lot of times I happen upon the discussion it’s heated, which is why I always get nervous to bring it up if I have feedback for it
I know they can be calm and have been, it’s just people let it get the best of them a lot lately
Actually nevermind I forgot there was no sleeping bag in the season of DREAMS like c'mon TGC what's that about 
uhhhh I still don't really get it
Yeti hair is when Vault hair just wakes up in the morning-
If people are resorting to name calling and such when discussing things please drop a message in #contact-the-mods because we do not tolerate that here
is Yeti secretly the Vault Elder's long lost sibling? 
I honestly ffeel like i”m in that report to mods channel a lot
it’s very helpful though
grandpa it seems
So vault elder is yeti.......interesting 
So I know it’s called triplets but my first thought was
THWINS
Yeah I was thinking that the yeti hair seemed like a furry headscarf alternative that wasn't 200 hearts 
Random question: can android enter point of no return?
Tbh i always saw vault elders headpiece as a hijab. I don't see it as hair👀
Me too
Same lol
Yeah I’m like 99% sure it’s a hood because all of the vault spirits wear ones
That makes so much more sense. I always thought of it like the diamond in Steven Universe. Thank you
It just looks like hair bc they didn’t really have the tech for non hair textured headgear until uh.... Halloween last year?
I do hope more headscarf type options get added in the future thaat aren’t ultimate gift 
blue diamond?
wait they didnt??? is that why the elder hairs look to be untextured?
What’s the fourth spirit for quest
We have the headscarf, the turban, the shrug turban, and-
The elder hairs look like any other hair, I mean how things like the pumpkin hat and Santa hat look like a different material than the normal hair
200 hearts just to look like a shuttlecock-
Ok now a question.
What spirits would an underwater season have? Im gathering ideas to write a fanbase season. Hopefully if it's good enough TGC will give us underwater season
Belonging brought in new tech for the gold trim on the capes that’s been used since
The gold on the director rhythm cape is something different
Swimming goggles!
Blowing bubbles spirit
OMG YESSSS WE NEED THAT
I think that'd depend on where it took place, like if it branched off of prarie or valley, etc.
I wonder if the cape with the sleeves we have now means we’ll get even more fancy capes though
the sleeves seem to have their own physics
ohhh an upside down fish bowl to put over your head
what material is the pumpkin hat
it moves a lot while walking
Pumpkin
Isnt that my niece?
Where’s the fourth spirit I need to collect?
There's two pins in a set, like the "you and I" pins from the first wave of merch. You give one of the pins (irl) to a friend and you both scan them and bind to your accounts. The spell from the pins works only between you and the player you gave the second pin from the pair to. The "you and i" spell was impossible to test on beta because of two accounts having to be a pair, so it might be the case with this spell too.
Ok some of the ideas i generated for it
Season will take place in sanctuary (its lore is connected to it)
The ultimate gift is a spirit manta cape (like the manta cape but transparent)
The sneak stance sit down with the dreams yellow cape thou,
hits differently,
Who has crab walk in beta and can see what the capes look like 
eden jellyfish pants, krill mask, crab hair, or whale cape?
The sleeves and the scarf must've been a pain to get working, the sleeves still kinda clip with the cape but it looks so cool 
A shrug type emote, like a dog getting the water of its fur. And the swimming shoes/pedals (forgot the name sorry)
Dimithi we din get it that day?
which spirit is your 4th?
Is it ok to ask next season related questions here?
How many days does it take to finish all missions in season of dreams?
A
Yellow cape with eden stance is uhmm not the best, your back is mostly exposed
I feel like the team has really outdone themselves getting that scarf cape to work and adding the cape wedges to the scarf itself
we can have a whole *scarf * on a cape, what could come next? 
ales we already have a shrug 
What? R u going to ask Gratitude questions? 
I just mean the latest quest from the quest lady
Asking about prices is kinda useless bc it can all be changed
But let's agree transparent spirit manta cape will be 🔥🔥🔥
is not solid like a pumpkin, is like a cake texture based in how it moves :v
🎃
How many days will it take for someone to finish all missions in season of dreams?
Pumpkin spice jello :v
awww Coliseum 💙
take the boat if it is not bugged
atleast 1
But more like full body shrug. Or maybe it’s better explained as full body shake? Just the same as when a dog shakes to get rid of water on its fur haha
wait the pumpkin moves??? i thought it was static like a hat
It’s jiggly
yeah in a sense like jelly 
pumpkin is cute and yap it moves
It'll take roughly the same time as prophecy did, if that's what you're asking 
Ok another side question.
We, skids, are fine underwater, vut are spirits?
Has there been any sprit memories partially underwater or such?
semisolid pumpkin
Ooo i like that idea!! I think a walking spirit could be guiding a spirit through underwater caves
Winter season the best
Even Winter IAP the best
Winter : Best Of The Sky
I’ve been waiting for this cape since like forever. I hope they will add a transparent spirit manta texture like cape as an ultimate gift in a season located in vault 
Does anyone know when the dream one is coming?
There's been the water prophet emote I think? And maybe wise stance, I can't remember
We have evidence show that tgc will get booster when winter comes
Hmmmm. Imma migrate to #lore-discussion-spoilers real quick with this question
i mean if theres an invisible cape, theres probably a way to make one like the ghost manta, right?
it would kinda just look like a reskin though
January, maybe... it’s not confirmed yet (I think), so best to wait 
Jelly cape maybe?
and jello cup hat 
Or maybe itll be like the yeti's pink bed with a half mesh and suck you in like a vortex 👁️
So should which season should I save up candles for in your opinions
oh no imagine trying to fly with it 
I miss the romantic pink Yeti bed
blush
Do you mean items?
Days of feast is not a season, it's an event, and they deal with different currency, save up for both 
I just wanted to say something
I saw the prices for next season cosmetics BUT im not sure if they're final
And i calculated it on how many do you need to complete AND how many days it will take
Roughly 47 days to complete season IF you have pass
Just sharing what i know please dont use as real reference
The thing is, the invisible cape is invisible cause there's literally no texture, heuehehe.
A translucent cape would probably destroy any phone running it. If Sky can't handle the old pre-beta capes with their designs, I have very high doubts it can efficiently render a translucent cape
Seasonal candles don't carry over to the next season. They'll get converted into normal candles once the current season ends.
i wouldn't call it that... but i miss the bouncing on it

I migrated back, they don't have an answer ((( we'll have to wait for a dev to share their thoughts
No no I think it can work
i forgot about that
also i nearly missed completing prophecy because i missed a week, if i missed 3 more days it wouldve been over for me
beware the ||

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Lets not make conclusion yet. Ppl saying pattern capes burn phone, but see how we gets a lot of textured and patterned capes this season without burning our phone.
Oh and do beta players get free ap?
Wouldn’t it just be a regular recolor?
The capes become ripped, that’s achieved by slapping a black texture on top of it which the game reads as translucent
Or smth....
It used to look way worse in pre launch though
itll probably have to be like, really simple patterned?
yo what i want to see pre launch ripped cape
the jellies, spirits, cosmic mantas, and cosmic whales are translucent tho... so wouldnt a translucent cape work?
Anyone know where the current ts is? (The one from sanctuary)
Crab cave with the big flower
To make a spirit manta cape you take the manta cape from Sanctuary. And then feed it to the krills 
It’s a bit different having to be able to render it through every realm and every possible frame
Transparency/translucency is very heavy resource-wise. A recolor would be the basic capes having different colors.
In the Sanctuary, the second cave next to the one with the waterfall
When you fly into sanctuary there’s a gaping hole at front with plants around it, you’ll know it’s the right cave by the crabs
Where sorry?
o ok 
From the day i know how butterfly capes were made, i stop asking for any animal capes

Oops sorry I don’t know anything about programming. My bad
those are rendered via pre-made animations.
From what I know, the capes are highly physics based. Meaning their animations are generated in-game.
How?
y'all help
i can't find the new star in yeti slope
Oh! Its still in sanctuary! Explains why I can’t find it!
Sanctuary island, the cave with alot of crabs
seasonal cape thats slightly torn 
Nah it's fine, and it's not really a programming thing, don't worry, heueheh
Also, @lusty light I watched an interview the other week. And a bunch of other programmers looked at the codes for the clouds, and even they have no idea how it works. It's absolutely epic, HAUAHAHAHA
The new star is behind the window of yeti’s house. The previous star there has been relocated to an icy cave on the right side of the ravine where you first enter the yeti slope
Pray to the TGC engineer gods
What interview? where can we see it? 
ooooo alright, thank you!
Goodmorning
Even the elders pray to the engineer gods
good evening
also, the clouds in isle look like theyre straight out of a painting in some angles, its amazing
Here's the link. If you're super interested in art, I really suggest watching it. It's a whole 2 hours of art talk and I learned a ton from it ^^~
Oooh shall we collectively create a skid prayer?
LET'S CREATE A RELIGION 🔥
BIRBZ
HOLY BIRBZ
Get to the biggest darkness plant in a cave in the sanctuary. The exit from the cave that's the closest to the big plant will have the sunbathing spirit just outside it. Sorry if it sounds like a riddle it's kinda hard to explain without a map.
Im honestly not even sure how TGC is able to make the worlds load so fast once you enter a portal
Why are the other spirits from the season of rhythm are in the the quest?
I just realised there are two benches on the sunset-viewing island
💙 
art talk you say? silently bookmarks it for later
Do any homies have the Christmas table?
God powers
Don’t spam please
Anyways, I gtg. I still have so much stuff to do TwT
bye guysss 
It’s all the spirits that have appeared in valley
, except for Handstand, Cheer, and
Leap, but cheer and leap already appeared in the yeti memory so 
paying their hometown a visit before being swarmed by paparazzi's
Can u send me a pic of Christmas table on ur back? :-0 in a dm??? Or here idk if that’s oki.
holy birbz that chibi chibis ride XD
All that’s left now it’s finding
Handstand
They can’t keep missing events smh 
I was finding for one single behind the scenes interview or any video for Sky but i nvr find any! Thanks for the video link! Sky should release a full interview /documentary like Horizon Zero Dawn to talk about how it comes to life from scratch
💙 I enjoyed every sec of the HZD documentary
Oh Holly Megan with your Holly birbz
Bless us with wax
Honestly believe TGC is casting some kind of magic over this game.
and why is the mother also known as the mother of the skater, using the ultimate reward mask of the season of rhythm
theres a HZD documentary? im actually planning to grab the artbook but this is offtopic
i was messing around about the religion stuff since i'm not religious
Sadly the season finale didn't answer to that
Can santa table still be able to move red candles?
Does the table charge u?
yes, but it's very slow
why is it the dancing prophet not joining the other spirit is he the father of the skater?
Expecting the Table of Feast to charge you is like trying to get full by eating one piece of cornflake every 5 mins. Just buy it coz its FANCY 
the stadium was full when he got there so he had to be in the stands
A portable charger always comes in handy though
i wouldn't read deep into those as it only could be reused assets, which on itself isn't a bad thing but pretty common
The rhythm mask was a Choice thou
If bonfire is a type-c charger
Table of feast is an AA battery 
Divine Megan of TGC, keeper of birbz and spirits, krills with their darkness took hold of me in a moment of weakness. I ask your forgiveness, bless us with wax, heal our cape and grant us a cheap ts, for we beware the days of feasts are upon us.
A Megan
why is the dancing prophet is at the center while the sky kid is performing?
new record today 
i reported in total 5 hackers
Ohh so thats why were the candles all around the shelves when we did table driving whole vault for fun
i don't see how it's a choice?
eden still not fixed 😭😭😭 RIP RED CANDLES
theyre sharing the spotlight! did you finish it yet? you spin with them!
sorry but.....Season of Durian when?
Durian? You mean Petros Durian or the fruit?
I know they used old assets, but it was still a design choice to have the qg wear the rhythm ultimate mask, they could have used the moth mask like the skater has, it was for the aesthetic but still 👁️
yes ive finish them all
Perhaps reusing the ultimate rhythm mask was easier since its already been on a questgiver before
Fruit-
is it possible to get the ultimate cape by today? If i see anyone with it, r they hacking?
Yes for? No for?
Yes they’re hacking. Please report them if you can ^^
Geez I would have gotten like 10 hackers 
The prairie social area is a perfect spot to find and report hackers if you’re bored in beta
I once saw a hacker do crazy and I mean CRAZY crazy things.....
man its ominous seeing the "several people are typing..." as chat goes still
is it only me or everyday i see an increase of hackers in beta ? 
Yes for?
that's like saying ushering stargazer is the skater just because they have a similar hairstyle. as you said it's done for aesthetics since the season's color palette is gold/red/black/white, that's all presented in what the guide is wearing. to each their own
Some players (they were typing in Mandarin) openly say they can download the game (not an invite link from TGC) like a separate app. I guess that’s how?
That’s because many of these hackers download Sky Beta in an illegitimate way so the stream of hackers is endless
We shouldn’t however go deeper into this topic since its against server rules and against the terms of service
i thought it was gold/red/deep purple/white for the palette 👁️👄👁️
Does anyone have the same situation like me? I went to Eden & then went to get some winged lights but there are some winged lights in Valley, Wasteland when I clicked it's merged to my cape but the number of lights doesnt increase 🥺
So its not my illusion to see more hackers in beta everyday?
Are there any prices yet for all the items all in one message? For Days of Feast, to be clear.
Is it recommeded to skip Eden at all cost for now?
Yeah ok but that’s also a legitimate theory too, not with the skater, but the ponytailed spirit in the candlemaker cutscene being the stargazer, not saying I believe it, but it exists
,
I was just saying it’s Interesting that they chose rhythm 
Link for the prices for Days of Feast please?
226 + candles and 15 hearts for DoF
150 candles for chair, 75 candles for cape, 15 hearts for pendant , the rest for nodes
fair enough, i mean i've made this crazy connection that prophecy and rhythm guides knew each other since childhood 
Keep trying to find bugs, I think? It’s the point of beta anyway.
Are there any prices for the items that aren't in game currency items?
14.99 for Antlers atm
14.99$ for the antlers
6.99$ for the Christmas hat
65 for cape?
*prices subject to change
...What is the chair?
Snowflake cape (probably) 14.99 too, not known yet
yeap subject to change
150 candles for the feast table
65 candles for the red Christmas cape
15 hearts for the pendant (subject to change)
Wait a sec I literally noticed that the rabbit mask uses the same base model as the weasel mask
Feast table
i should be sleeping soon (subject to change)
I'd imagine the snowflake cape may be a similar price to the spider cape
No, sorry, I mean, what is the Chair, I haven't seen it yet? I don't think.
A special version of the chat table which is red with candles on top that can charge you
<_< dark you should be sleeping already
The festive dinner table basically a bootleg bonfire but very ✨fancy✨
taps (subject to change)
I wonder hw many non-beta players are lurking here to check on spoilers
💙
come gib me bear hugs then 
Thank you Eden for all the information, I appreciate it ❤️ Same with others who replied.
I’m exhausted just thinking about all the grinding for feast
but now Everyone who gets it is gonna get major respect 
Bonfire is bonfire
Feast table is just a match for the speed it charges 
Before Sanctuary (but when it was being tested in beta) I would sometimes quickly scroll through the screenshots channel to get a quick glance at the new stuff, but not enough to completely spoil myself 
I’ve been caught in the act 
Before sanctuary I had no idea this entire category of channels existed
oh man Dark and I were spamming bear hug in home space and these two players got suepr hyped
I don’t think they’d seen itbefore
Guys how can we get the snowflake cape??
You can’t get it yet. If you see someone wearing it, please report them 
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
Entering eden still makes android devices to crush after todays update?
Owhh okay thanks for the info^^
Hm about the earlier cape discussion,since we saw many complex cape designs from the seasons (seasons of dreams included) isn't it possible to have capes at least similar to the beta designs? I am thinking of the design similar to ultimate/ascended capes(from the current beta) that would have triangles on top of the pattern/line. Or somewhat resembling journey cape
I think with the current mechanics that they’re using it might realistically be possible
Edit: I’m not an engineer of any kind so please take these words with a grain of salt. However the capes TGC has been releasing seem to be getting more complex and detailed so I doubt it won’t be possible somewhere in the future
Hello! Is the 3rd quest supposed to be active during the 4th quest? The skater’s spirit can still be relived in the stadium.
The quests can be replayed this season
cant wait to be emotional finishing the quest with my friend 
Bro I barely found any bug in this beta batch. Except for the crevices which will yeet you to the underground OOB (if that is even considered a bug or unpolished texture or whatever do you call it)
My converted candles will go to days of feast. I'm currently at 132. Sadly couldn't get the ts cause I'm busy with work to candle run,
it’s 2 am I’m getting sneepy
Some chats are typed twice is it 🐛 ?
idk if this question is answered but
do the whole quest can be repeated?
edit = thank you for the yes react 
Does anyone have the same situation like me? I went to Eden & then went to get some winged lights but there are some winged lights in Valley, Wasteland when I clicked it's merged to my cape but the number of lights doesnt increase 🥺
@amber wing Lucky you were able to go to Eden 😭😭😭 TGC hasnt fixed the Eden yet I've already sent a lot of reports about the eden issue and there's already 4 updates happened but the eden still the same.. my app forcedly closed upon entering the Main Level 😭😭😭😭
Not the cutscenes that the questgiver triggers. You can however light the girls spirit again and relive all 5 of her memories

It works from the emote menu, but not the settings menu.
well dat good
REST IN PEACE RED CANDLES
NO EDEN. THEY SHOULD FIX IT SOON BEFORE RELEASING TO LIVE
edit: OR ELSE LIVE VERSION WILL BE MESSED UP

So, what if, and let's try not to bring the discussion of seasonal exclusive items back in //full// force, but what if instead of re-releasing seasonal exclusives via in game currency or real money they did something like a recolor or reskin of those items. That way people who payed for the passes still have exclusivity but people who joined later can get a small taste of that. As for if it were in game currency or real money, thats a different discussion.
I could see that yeah, but I've seen reasons for both sides (changing the color or keeping it the same) so I'm not gonna sway to one side or the next just yet
yes and no. Those old capes texture was about as complicated and graphics intensive as carrying around the giant round rock in butterfly fields on your back at all times. The way that capes are rendered for efficiency is a combination of optical illusions and clever engineering. So while we absolutely have complex-looking capes that rival the aesthetics of those old beta capes, they are considerably more efficient as to avoid unnecessary stress on your device's graphics chip. Player perception is comparing apples to apples when in reality you're trying to compare one apple to an entire orchard. Hopefully that helps understand why we have no plans to ever bring those capes back.
I really love the season of dreams bgm. If someone recreated the instrument version(idk how to say it) of it I would immediately practice it
@vapid briar Will y'all bring 90fps/120fps graphics to the game? As lots of devices supports 120 Hz refresh rate
they chanted "bear hug!" "yes!" "cool!"
Does anyone have a screenshot for the Snowflake Cape yet? Or whichever the Blue one is with the cute poofs handing from it. I can't remember where I saw it last.
have you read the days of feast blogpost in #news? it showcases what those items look like. unfortunately any screenshots of the snow cape is worn by illegitimate players and posting those here is against the rules
unlikely considering most devices struggle to maintain even 60fps. Sky is more akin to a console or PC game in terms of it's graphics quality and rendering. We deliberately cap fps options at 60.
I don't need it worn by anyone, I just wanted a screenshot from where I saw it. Probably in the news then. I'll go look there and see if I can find it. Thanks. I just couldn't remember if it was in the beta screenshots or not and with that response I'm going to eliminate that thought/possibility. It definitely wasn't there which is a relief. xD
When we are closer to console and/or PC release version of Sky, that answer may change for those platforms, but it's waaay too early to make those kinds of promises.
To be clear, I saw it somewhere, a picture or video, and couldn't remember if it was in the screenshots or not (Because I did look through those a lot too to see the mask and antlers, etc.) and I didn't want to have to go through all of them looking for it because that's obviously not realistic.
Oh, so is it true that sky will eventually come to pc? Or is that still up in the air?
Could we at least have high def 60 fps?
The goal has always been to release Sky on as many platforms as possible. We've alluded to PC for a long time, but development hasn't remotely become close to starting. Primary focus is Nintendo Switch.
If devices could support it, we'd enable it. That isn't the case though. 30fps high def is the max right now. Goes back into my previous statement that even high end devices struggle with regular 60fps, let alone even higher quality.
It is by design and wholly deliberate that we keep options and menus simplified.
Ahh, I figured it was something like that. Take your time with the Switch release! 
Although I have one more question if you're able to... when the Switch release comes out, would we be able to crossplay with them? I don't know if that'd even be possible, but I must admit I'm curious 
What engine does sky use? @vapid briar
That's fine if it works for a handful of devices, but tailoring the game to only those devices would alienate the vast majority of our playerbase. We design for all our players, not just a few at the top.
It's a proprietary engine we built ourselves.
Well y’all did an amazing job!
Anyone ever go back to “home” and see a white and black moving cloud....? Then it vanished? Kinda freaking me out
Where is the event taking place? I saw a video saying it'll be in ||Office.|| Which reminds me of the Halloween Event.
the shadows are escaping from the fire trial 
Im missing one seasonal candle for the yeti pants :(((((((
Is that you being serious or is that a bit of sarcasm lol I’m genuinely trying to figure out why they keep moving then poof
i think it might actually be a bug, im just joking
but i do sometimes see them in live
Just got curiosity how much they take time for this season, map is big, story is thouching, spirit can skate with us, there so many systems new in here :

Everyone has already their ult gift already but I haven't it's because I didn't know there was seasonal candles in all realms before
So should I risk going to Eden?
Oh yeah when do they start work on the next season? It’s crazy how they pumped out all of these amazing things for us to test in such a short amount of time, even if they were working on this right after prophecy was released to live 
Only if you wanna get TS stuff. lol
I'm trying to reset all my stars so that I can see where they've relocated the stars in the Village. I'm just wondering if Eden is still crashing and if it's worth the sacrifice xD
Android is crashing at point of no return, but you won’t be locked out of the game . Ios should be fine i think.
Thanks Pakka! And hello Pakka ^^
I don't get it- so any people have snowflake cape but here I am unable to figure out how to get it because it's nowhere in the shop.. 
That's because those people obtained an item that's not available yet. Please report them!
it is currently unable to be obtained and people who have it obtained it by breaking tos. please report those players if you can.
Ohhh okay I see I will if I meet another one >_>
When you finished Season of Dream last quest, and you remember the season saying "it takes a village to raise a child* since the beginning............burst into tears
💙 best season story after season of enchantment!
People might see the ultimate items for its fanciness, but people who hv experienced the story see the ultimate cape and mask as a reward of determination and efforts of a girl who chases after her dream

oMG THATS SO WHOLESOME 
Guys is the icy blue cape available now??cuz i saw someone wearing it
i think we should call the final quest "Village of Dreams Festival" :D
Is ulti cape is can happen now or i still need to report them 
Report
I'm seeing people with the snowflake cape, where do I get it?
Icy blue cape isn't available??then should i report people who have it?
Icy blue cape is an available spell
You can’t the people wearing it are hackers
TGC, please let the girl go back to skating on the rink

cries in lonely
Oh okay, thanks
That cape is in the spell shop at home space. The rock with stars on it next to the boat will give u 2 icy blue capes for free.
it does? it didnt for me 
It does give the red Christmas cape
Yes the girl makes us feel less lonely
and seeing her skating around is also motivating us to keep striving in our life

TGC please let us watch seasonal quest cutscenes over so i can make my youtube video 
It does for me?? I haven’t used it yet tho
She symbolizes that we could still fulfill our dreams.. no matter the situation 
i should probably check, but im at an oob using a campfire spell with 3 other people on top so im kinda stuck
Are you sure you're not looking at the spell for the light blue Rhythm cape?
The new snowflake cape should be fluffy, whereas the Rhythm cape has gold edges 
Well even if it is an accidental report the player will be fine if they didn’t do anything wrong 
The rhythm directors cape spell doesn’t work
Better send a picture about that apparent snowflake spell to make things clearer- that's what I think should be best at least 
Oh, I was thinking rhythm cape when they said icy blue cape lol.
Sorry to interrupt the conversation, but was it a hacker who got the second final reward?
Ah, understandable! There are a lot of names floating around. Hopefully we'll get an official one eventually 
After the final quest, we shall give the girl an official stage name: The Phoenix
💙 for her championship and glow
pompon icy blue snowflake cape 
Also...curious, what does the soulmate spell do exactly??
I don think getting the ultimate mask is a hack by today?
Why is everyone responding yes to his question?
When will we get the snowflake cape in beta? Can anyone reply to me?
I think ktjn said the soulmate and teleporting pin spells don’t work because we don’t have the actual pins but idk
Oof, I'd better slide on out of this chat. I haven't done the last few quests yet because I'm taking a break. 
I HAVE had a suspicion that the ult gifts will be her performance costume though...
And Eden, they asked about the second gift (the cape), not the first (the mask).
Okay , that clarifies

The spell doesn’t do anything as of now. The website says this however:
Scan the Soulmates in Sky pins to get a special effect that everyone can see when you hold your soulmate's hand.
what sounds better
village festival or village of dreams festival?
Omg that’s adorable

Festival of dreams ?
dreams of village's festival? :v
YOU LEGENDDDD YOU GOD POGCHAMP
Gotta find a soulmate 1st...
Okay, I'm back and Eden didn't crash on me :D
To be honest the soulmate pin wearing the cute hat and the bonfire is the best thing to ever touch my retina
Are you ios or Android?
Did you finish it?
Aight I’m outies for now! 
i'm just waiting for when dreams hits live, and for the first 3 weeks lore chat is set on 'the qg is the skater when she's older' and then the final quest comes and everything goes out the window 
Is there any spoilers for how much the cosmetics cost in season of dreams?
How many candle spot for this season ? Only 3 ?
qg : cries in lonely
I know it's only been like 12 hrs since I checked in but is eden working for any android players now?
Aight Imma head out- I'll tell y'all if it's working
Ty!