#beta-discussion
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Somebody noticed that the other skykid has weird names even we are not friends??
its a bug
Hey, what's traveling spirit updates ??
U can ping me
@jagged marsh The update will only become apparent when the next TS comes. So for now, it's unknown what it is.
Ooh
We dont know. It could be a bug, it could be a placeholder for new items-
If it's a placeholder for new items, then it doesnt necessarily have to be a cape
Idk but I think it's a placeholder. Like you can't have 2 cape for a single spirit
The items aren't even in the game yet, since the game crashes when you try them on. The other new items are null items. If the devs have planned to put new items there, the capes are definitely placeholder icons.
They could be items for a upcoming season we are about to test.
Oh, found them.
Somewhat odd placement in the closet: after the green charity cape and before the bat cape. Seems more likely to be IAPs in that case. Maybe for an upcoming Christmas event?
Could someone check if there is an empty spot before the witch hat and after the pumpkin in the hair section? Because that's where I have the Santa hat.
I thought maybe the wing buffs were to push more people up to 150 stars but I've got nothing for the items
What do you mean? What items?
for the regular spirits
Sorry, regular spirit wing buffs would give items? I don't understand the green's comment. 
Btw, I seem to also get some candle wax from the new spirit memories.
The extra capes/null items are behind extra wing buffs
green suggests that the new wing buffs are to push for 150, however they have no idea what to make of the extra capes/null items that come after, since you were discussing what those items could be
Oh, maybe I missed a previous conversation then. My apologies!
Where are these new wing buffs?
I still think the cape items are IAPs, because of their placement in the closet. There's only three, which is more that the regular capes we have. But who knows! My guess is placeholders.
same, think they're placeholders
they don't exist at all, but the icons have a price tag, it's 3x the price of the previous cape
So, did green mean that they didn't get any wing buffs when buying the new ones?
no, new wing buffs work
When i open beta 10 sec later it crashes help :/
did you equip one of the new capes
New cape?
from the regular spirits
No man, i just logged in and it dropped fps and crash
then i have no idea
from the regular spirits
@kindred fossil wdym by the new cape ? It changed ?
#beta-screenshots-videos message
@kindred fossil i can't login there it says "email already claimed"
I hopped on to check myself and nothing happened.
I look at the video and now I realize what’s wrong. 
I can't see it 
you, can't log on into sky beta because "email already claimed" or is the link not working?
@kindred fossil no i mean discord
Ah, it’s a video of the butterfly charmer, but it has two capes. It’s quite strange. Wonder what it’s for? 
Well, two capes to purchase. The normal one and then another one at the very top.
it's just a placeholder, don't buy it nor equip it. you'll be locked out, which is why i asked about it earlier regarding to your crash issue
According to my observations of reading the messages here, I conclude that those capes are likely what’s causing people to crash- mmm. Noted.
Is it during relive spirit ?
I have no hearts anyhow. So I can’t buy it even if I wanted to or if nothing happened. 
Still, wonder what it’s for?
After some math. It looks like you can get 150 once you played since 6.29 or earlier(after this update
7/20 
Oh wait. I see 2 yellow cape on the butterfly charmer tree 
Is anyone having issues seeing other players in ||office||?
Either that or I keep getting split from my friends
I haven't gone to office yet, I'll have to go try it
I met a stranger there, lit them, we even honked and all was good. It surprised me because in prairie before, this would crash my game.
Dark, I tried tapping on your star in my constellation and my game crashed 
Season of crash
Oooooo Isle changed BGM?
It's so gooood
Its because dark bought and wore one of the placeholder capes that makes your game crash. Seems like it affect everyone 
Cursed capes...
Nah it's just icon bug
Its because dark bought and wore one of the placeholder capes that makes your game crash. Seems like it affect everyone
Not everyone. I’m not affected. Perhaps it was effected by everyone in the server maybe.
no, i have the cape equipped, i can no longer log in
@kindred fossil does it say ?
game data coroupt please re-install !
I noticed the spirits who have capes all suddenly have either double capes in their shop or a higher tree constellation
uh no? it just crashes on the start up screen, as soon as my character loads
Ohh sad
if the devs delete the code of extra cape you should automatically get brown cape ig
Sooo, cape is lava?
yes, except you're already 6ft into the lava
Yeah I can record it, give me a sec
Next: air is lava.
Posted the vid in #beta-screenshots-videos
dark wears the cape with a curse of binding on it
Also, that's crash number 19 
Welp, that's enough messing around with bugs for today. Goodnight everyone! 
Is the official 11 wedges design out?
wow enough conversation happened while i was asleep im probably not gonna actually be able to backread
this update proves to be quite...interesting
I thought I had discovered a new bug with it being windy in the office bathroom, but I just checked live and it's there too so I guess it's not new 
What update? We just add 9 bucket of lave into beta
beeping ia lava now 
doing daily quests is gonna be 
Wait so, dark capes are the reason of the sudden crash?
crystal, wasn't the wind in the office bathroom just because of the krill stored immediately underneath?
Point spirit gave candle after reset again. I haven't tried the others yet
lemme go test too for science 
For science (and wax) 
oh wow, it really did 
something tells me it's related to how the spirit cutscene is playing that short animation of the spirit's blue halo ascending towards the temple (though that's probably more a symptom than the root cause)
I haven't done any other regular spirits rather than the isle ones yesterday, could anyone check if the others give wax too after reset?
just tested on butterfly spirit (did it yesterday as well) -- it gave out wax again
That has to be a bug, unless they plan to re do the whole economy? 
as fun as it sounds, i don't think letting this thing get to live would be a good idea -- that many extra candles is going to skew the candle economy they've got set up (especially when taking IAPs into account), and i'm really not keen on the idea of candle resets in live if it gets that bad 
When will the next beta start?
I don't think they'll be able to do a candle reset in live easily, there would always be someone out of millions that play that just bought like 500 candles from IAP. Better we catch it here while still in beta.
we won't know until they announce it naruto, but from what's currently happening in beta, i don't think it'll be within the next week at least -- we just got given new stuff to test
Candle run: 
Spirit run:

Btw i agree it wouldn't be good hitting live. Besides there are ppl who would do candle and spirit runs every single day, and it's already too long just the CR. Doing spirits every single day would lead to more burnout in my opinion.
I mean the next beta Season
we have no idea about that either, there hasn't even been a teaser about what the next season will be about
Ok
pakka don't call me out like that, i'd totally do spirit runs
i am kinda nervous about a potential beta candle reset though if they don't fix up the spirits fairly soon and the potential candle count balloons out a bit 
Currently experiencing multiple crashes in Prairie.
mickey, are you noticing a pattern to the crashes? saw a few android users above say that they seem to crash often when another player honks
Spear, it is because of the krill underneath, but I don't recall it being windy when the plant was there, before it was burned
ah -- i've always heard wind while burning the plant myself, though the wind's never strong enough to actually knock me over
Maybe I just didn't pay enough attention 
I know
i don't think you are the only one who would do it Spear. It's even bugging me, to get 'all' and it's a bad feeling when you don't or skip something. So i don't like the idea of this spirit wax to come to live.
Oh yeah... it must be the honk. Before the game crash, I saw weird texts/symbols above strangers' head.
Hello
Ooof. Made it through Eden fine after update last night but game just froze, crashed and closed in Prairie. And yeah, I also saw random symbols on screen when it froze.
I've just met confetti cousin in prairie
And game crashed like every 2 minutes
And warping to a friend in prairie is instant crash
Wait, the season was supposed to end today or just a false MOTD?
It’s supposed to end tomorrow
(I mean, after the reset)
No, from what I've been told, the season ends tomorrow because it also counts hours
MOTD can also be inaccurate
Or am I wrong..?
We never trust MOTD in beta.
The season ends tomorrow in beta. The countdown is always in days and then hours for the last 24 hours.
The countdown to trust is the one you see when opening the constellation.
Sad, I'm expecting my SC will be converted today. Goodbye to my chance to purchase the boogie pants. 
new discovery
that new cape crash is so intense if i even look at dark in my constellation the game crashes 
Aeras recorded it earlier, those capes are spooky
I hope it gets fixed in the next patch for Dark.
i reset my progress because i'm impatient
Oh, you're a moth now? How can you even do that? 
and i've been itching to do that for awhile now
i simply signed out of game center and deleted the app, it gave me a warning that my progress will be lost
My beta keeps crashing
android is crashing like mad and ios isnt. beeping definitely causes android crash. but it also crashes randomly without cause too
yes my once my friends change cape it crash
oh no. they're not going to be able to open beta up again for a long time
Ooh don't buy the clone cape !
you should be fine if you bought it, just don't equip it
your progress is saved in game center so you can get it back once the crash is fixed right?
you should be able to, yeah, beta has the same account binding system as live does
Crashed in Forest too.
I haven't update my beta yet...
My wifi kinda problem today..
I cant buy ultimate cosmetics<a:pWeep:666732949986738176>
The spirits give wax again , after reviving them all yesterday too. Gonna send in bug rep
what is the name for new season!
The current one isn't even ended yet in beta
The spirits always did, even in Live rn
I dont see it as a bug
That was always there
@fervent patrol They meant now it counts as candle wax which it usually only works for the first time
Oh
So it doesn't count as candle wax before?
i hear new season about to come out
Yup candle gauge won't go up for relived spirits, although if a brand new player unlock them it still counts
Anyone knows what happen to the Thatskyshop?
they gonna reopen!!!!
"Season of Dream"
yeayea the new season
yeayea the new season
@hearty pelican are u from china?
Not sure why yall are wondering about a new season, it hasnt even ended in beta yet 
yep lol
妙啊> yep lol
@hearty pelican
bruh... talking about hacks and hackers is against the rules @lyric igloo
@sullen relic About our conversation earlier I found the cutscene kid and they do have a diamond both front and back 
"Season of Dream"
is this another "fanart so good it looks official" situation?
@vapid drum re convo on FB: I went through and picked up all wl in Live, btw. Ended up with 148. Something is so wrong.
@hollow compass you too????
"Season of Dream"
is this another "fanart so good it looks official" situation?
@kindred fossil no idea but mostly fanart accuracy above 80% lol
I’m gonna do live again later on , maybe it adds up now after new TS
I give up. I can't be bothered going back and forth to Eden and never having the count be correct, because it's just impossible to keep track of all 150-ish wl.
looks like it, because we won't be hearing anything about a new season for awhile, not until the season is near conclusion in live
Well , the number of TS is set , I always keep track of my wing count that I get after receiving the wing buffs
Any "new season" info you find is either fanart or not official. Please don't spread rumours.
Link for the diamonds and shapes on the spirit kid in isle. It’s remarkably similar to ours. There was a bigger discussion about it earlier today. #beta-screenshots-videos message
@late mountain oh, you managed to see it on them? nice, that's what i would've expected if it was the same model as what we've alredy seen in-game
Yup in the link, the clipping ones are clear to see but the large back one is nearly impossible to see, even from the best angle I could get
I forget what the discussion was, something to do with the lore and eden kids right?
yeah, was something about trying to see if it might be the same one as the one in the eden dark room based on whether it had markings or not
Did anyone buy the new wing buffs and check if you get them in Eden? Or did people only buy the mystery capes?
Ah, so that would be a no then based on the markings? Or do I need to go clip in the dark room model too? 
Oh, hang on! Maybe they're reshuffling the spirit trees again? Ie, the capes are just moving up to the top?
the dark room model might be a harder clip because of how you lose control when you get close
Ah yes that may prove difficult.
Probably could try from afar, I think the camera still responds to the floor in there and tracing eye symbols
Hello everyone
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Is there is any wax in the fire trial

No.And if you're asking in regards to Live, please use #questions-and-help
blep, the wing buffs should work as intended
@queen musk I’ve deleted that since we can’t discuss hacks or hacked items. You can however report any players you see who have things they should not have in game.
!reportplayer
Here's some info on how to report players in the game: https://bit.ly/ReportFAQ
Ok
Dark , it should work as intended , but like many things in sky , sometimes they just dont 🤣. But this one with the buffs is one thats been there for a long time and a select group of players
the new ones i meant, should be safe to buy them
Yeah, we were discussing it in the FB group and it seems that some older players in particular are not getting their TS wing buffs to add up.
But yes, I was asking about the new ones. Really curious what the purpose with those are!
Oh sorry , i thought you were talking about the old buffs not counting , dark
Yes, the new buffs in spirit trees count , we did eden yesterday and i was reborn with 65
Oh, nice. Maybe I should run Eden later today, then.
The new prices for items is awesome ... Thankyou tgc... been wanting this for ages ... game shall take longer to complete and for when it comes to switch -that’s a good thing
The cape placeholder items are triple the cost of the current capes in those spirt trees from what I've heard. So 120 hearts for the placeholder pink cape I think
It’s no different, I just updated and the pictures I was shown are not what Iam seeing ... their is no difference.. weird ..really don’t understand what’s going on ... strange ....
Well I was excited and believed it too
Oh, I see. Where did you see pics for new prices and what items were they?
The only thing I can see right now are the new wing buffs, but I haven't unlocked them, so I don't know the prices for whatever is above.
At the top of each constellation their is 140 hearts for a unknown item .. this is on a few constellations apparently ...
It's super interesting! I really wonder what those will be and how that will affect anyone who has already finished all constellations in Live.
I really am confused.com -I think I shall look into it myself - but I have no where near got enough to get to the top of the constellations
I’m excited .... new items maybe I think ... possibly
I wonder what they could be, though. There is nothing obvious that the Stealthy stance can offer, for example, other than her black cape.
The items have a circle with a line through them with 140 heats next to etc or how many hearts it is
Yes, but some of the others, like in Prairie and Forest, have the same cape that spirit already sells. Definitely place holders.
Ive put them all up in screenshots
As soon as I know anything I’ll let you know cause this is really crazy cool .... I really don’t know what’s happening though
The new items are 3x the cost of the cape from the same spirit
nah it’s a rumour
afaik
The current season hasn't even ended in beta yet
I know Nastymold once made a video about a fictional season of dreams season
Ah.
Season of dreams, a fan-made season? Or a Rumour?
Fan made seasons and stuff this channel isn't really the place to look for them 👀
They do nothing ... my friend just bought one and it done nothing 😦
there is no official information about a new season so i wouldnt trust any other information you may find online
New capes will crash your game
Yeah, this season didn't even end.
Sam they make you crash if you wear them
Please refrain from sharing any information gained through hacks, or present fan made stuff as official news.
The new capes seem to be placeholders along with the null items, and dont wear the capes in the closet either
Their is nothing .. my friend unlocked and recieved zero 😭 now I feel bad as they just wasted a lot of hearts .. but for testing I guess but nothing happened.. so much hard work .. I owe them big time
About the cursed capes, hmmm I'm wondering if it's the upgraded cape from old sky light awaits cape? It's so expensive
Yep update .... item crashed game ...item now has shown up
Yes it has extra ascended candles with a cape
Upgraded cape? I don't remember that.
maybe they're gonna be simpler pattern versions of the light awaits capes?
I mean that crashing cape I'm wondering what I would be if it's upgraded
It’s a new cape as it was in the cape changing room
Isn’t the entire reason they took out those fun patterned capes to avoid destroying devices?
I think the capes in the closet are IAPs for Christmas. There's only 3 of them and they are placed between other IAPs.
But why would they be in the spirit trees then? I dont think any other iaps have been like that
Christmas ones wouldn’t be in constellations though
So it would be the upgraded cape? I hope it is, super expensive hahaha
Ok now ive actually done some research
We'll have to see once another update rolls out in the future. But I wonder what the null items could be
It will just be a new cape .. no upgrade
bruh... talking about hacks and hackers is against the rules @misty kettle
But there are no other items in the closets that are new and empty. I don't think the closet items are related to the spirit ones.
bruh... talking about hacks and hackers is against the rules @misty kettle
If their is 3 Christmas ones though it might be possibly them as it makes sense for the time being
@misty kettle what are you trying to post here?
I’m just over here wondering why the spirits are so overlooked
I think we all better get off this topic now 
What and why i have no clue i just watch them on yt ik guessing they only did it for attention
Well, now you know. Please don't post about things that are not officially released or acquired in a proper way.
Okay

I can't wait for an update and more info on the changes we can already see! 
Anyways I’m super excited about sky as the new beta update has got me all excited for the future ... just what I needed to boost my morale... 
About the diamond shapes in the spirit memory skid...
Does the skid that we hug in Eden have the same thing too?
Also, you can ping me cause I don't think I'll be here for long
Might be hard to check since there's a cutscene for eden kid but I'll try if I remember to next eden visit.
uuuuuuh, what did i say wrong
what i'm trying to say that it would be difficult to check the model, but i'd assume it would, since it's literally the same model
Hmm? What's wrong Dark?
my message got yoinked
Scary
Hmmm... True... I assumed it may be different somehow cause the skid we hug in Eden doesnt have the chest circle that we have
neither of us does, the chest circle disappears when your flame is out
True...
also the diamonds are an old beta leftover, i don't think they serve a purpose
I'm off to bed, goodnight everyone 
Night Harbin!
my fd say he find the data of beta
and he say the next season is Season Of Dream is it ture
beacause if he fake me,I need to prepare for my knife
Those are rumors that are not confirmed, so please don't spread them. Afaik it was a fictional season created by nastymold
prepare the knives! 
ok,any good knife or any link of Amazon

Nastymold made a series of fictional seasons on their youtube channel. One of them was season of dreams 8 months ago
That's a fanmade Season I think
Weird deja vu, I literally saw that video like, a while ago. Didn't watch tho-
so this is the data to fake the people like to check thing by use mod?
We don't have any more information than that, and we do not talk of these things that go against ToS
You can find nastymold's video on youtube
is it about eight month before i go check and see
About the double hearts event, does it start the same day as it starts on the live version?
most likely yes, but nothing official
Hey what is the change to the TS system that we are supposed to test? It was listed on the update section for this build but I see nothing different 
does anyone know when the portrait mode comes out?
Portrait mode is on ios beta... As for when it comes out to android and live, no news about that yet!
Liliana, it will probably appear for next ts
ktjn said that the changes won't appear until the next TS
What changes?
Thanks Lu. Also, does the dev prefer beta feedback through TestFlight or Discord? I have switched to TestFlight for my total build feedback so that i dont have to specify the build and device, etc that my feedback is associated with, but im asking just to be sure
We don't know yet mioleen, we'll see 👀
That, I have no idea. I think they're happy with any and look at both. I just do through discord because it's easier for me
My beta keeps crashing after the update, is there any way to stop it from crashing?
Nope, it's a common issue rn unfortunately 
Just #beta-bugs-ios or #beta-bugs-android
😭 😭 😭 😭
Is there anyone that re finished one of the update constellations?? I’m curious if the elders offer new cosmetics too. ( prairie did not , but that one wasn’t updated with new items )
Cape is lava! 
You can't get elder hair either until u finish the new stuff too
Has anyone been able to test the “you & i” spell? I tried it with two people (one is Pakka hi Pakka) and it kept saying “Job failed. Your friend is on an older version of the app”, so I wanna see if it’s a bug
Cant wait for next season new place in valley 🤔
huge “sanctuary bug” in isle of a dawn 👀👀👀
@spark lance i had the same! Also tried it with pakka and it failed! Guess we have to wait. Also nobody really knows how it is supposed to work?!😅
I dont. Oh wait if we both tried it and failed with Pakka does that mean Pakka is ..... CURSED????

🤭👀 maybe
i more want new season in knowledge
I was always cursed with the spells but they are working now (except u and I). Besides Spear tried it with Julia and didn't work either but he didn't even got that message unlike us.
Hi Liliana
"you" and "I" doesn't seem to work, i get the same message
oh ok sky bot time then, thanks guys and hi Pakka I warped to you earlier but u were afk hehe
all I can think of is the way the Prophecy teaser was dropped in the literal middle of nowhere
But maybe the You and I doesn't work because it's that split pin, where you share two pins between yourself and a friend?
Maybe, but in that case why did they put in it the app note for this new build if they have explained the disfunctionality with your reason before?
Ohh sorry Liliana probably the others were carrying me while i was out eating lunch
😅
I noticed hehe, your friend looked confused tho 
Lol, I was playing Sims 4 the other day while others carried me around. Oops!
Liliana, I don't know why the pin spell isn't working. I was just trying to suggest a reason.
That’s alright, this pin spell is a bit sketchy. LOL at least you arent playing Journey and Sky at the same time like my friend. TGC game on top of TGC game. Her device must be a beast

Do all of you guys stop getting STAR spell supply to test as well? It’s very inconvenient since TGC is updating usage for some spells, but I got very few to test 
i used all of my isle teleport spells just to get to prophecy caves faster
Arent we all? 👀 Honestly I wouldnt test the trials for every build if i didnt have those spells
Nahh they werent working for me at all so i have like 40 
Good morning!
Just woke up and was going to get my wl back when I tapped on dark's star again, knowing that my game would crash. Whoops. 
Guys what’s the item after praying acolyte and memory whisperer
We dont know, but don't buy them yet.
@kindred fossil when I click on you to light your star it makes my game crash lmao
Only you
Thats cause dark bought and wore one of the bugged capes. It doesn't exist, so the game crashes.
the crash isn’t just android on that one at least. ios is crashing too previewing the cape and clicking dark’s star
don’t try on mystery capes in the closet and DO NOT equip them if you buy them. preview will crash you once, equipping will make it so you cannot open the game at all anymore
I finally finished vault constellation today and went to grab vault elder’s hair. And I was like 
Oh wow I see
Apparently everyone has problems after the last update. The game can be played without updating and crashes, but you will not be able to enter the isle, because there were major changes
after so long the game won’t open at all until you update so I wouldn’t delay updating too long. the thing about beta testing is we are going to get bugs and sometimes they will be major game breaking bugs
this update has me writing a dozen bug reports and I’ve only gotten around to submitting 2 of them oops
On which spirits trees are the capes we must not try on/ buy? I bought a mystery item but I don’t’ see it in the closet
Did you buy something that had an icon, or was it null ?
Yes in vault constellation
if it’s past a second wing buff, assume it’s not safe to buy.
Yes, at least it didn’t crash my game 
But was there a
something like this ?
Or was it a circle with a line through it ?
the null icons don’t have anything equippable. Dark’s game perma-crashed (and is causing others to crash) because she equipped one of the capes that had a cape icon. I was in eden with her when it happened
The picture I sent in beta screenshots
That’s a null item, it doesn’t exist in game yet
the (/) icon is a null item. there’s nothing in the game code there so if you buy it you will get nothing. and when an item appears in that spot you will need to buy again
I should get back to all my bug reports 
Got it, I don’t remember the price but I think it was a lot of wasted hearts then
My game is crashing
I think the price needs a total of 699 hearts. Will this love price be changed later?
Yes moonkid, currently it's a common occurrence
I think the price needs a total of 699 hearts. Will this love price be changed later?
Which item are you talking about ?
I think they are talking about all the new items put together
Idk if I got wing buff from praying acolyte and memory whisperer spirit trees because I was trying to sneak past wing ceremonial to be capeless.
The wing buffs work if you're wondering. Went to eden yesterday to get some of them
Which item are you talking about ?
@willow sage The new branch in the new version updated today
Also, we have no idea if the price will change. We don't even know what they are yet, or if they're meant to be in the game.
That's why I came here to ask if the price is temporary or unchanged
The number 699 is really not small
Update notes: Facebook, 2 spirit, Star improvements
Reality: Crashes in android, invisible friends, extra game crashing capes and wingbuffs
Tbh I'm really curious what will that beta updates post say
I suggest not trying to do eden in a group right now. You will likely be split if it’s a combo of android and ios devices and the ios people will remerge but android won’t. Aeras, Dark, Soap, Mochi (not active in server), and I all went. 3 androids and 2 ios. the 3 androids ended up on totally separate servers alone and the 2 ios together.
I was with my android friend earlier today and she mentioned about hyonk crashing her game. We did finish wasteland silently
I merged until the point of no return. Haven't crashed until the ascending part then i had a crash and no merging
bye friends
I’m honestly not even sure if I should submit that as it’s own bug report because it’s from the android crashes caused by beeping. we did all do the close app and return shrine at the same time attempt. Mochi and Dark our two ios people kept ending up together but nobody else did 
Also honks usually don't crash me. I just poof in totally random moments in total silence and i don't when someone is shouting next to me
prairie and waste graveyard was the worst so far, valley and forest 1-2 crash.
(patiently waiting beta updates in #beta-announcements
my galaxy device is crashing if someone beeps even once now. and also when there’s game noises like the bell towers or light creatures calling next to me
I’ve never gotten any of the android specific related crashes before so this one is just really frustrating trying to get anything done. side note though, does anyone know the character limit in the beta feedback channel? I’m thinking of typing up something in a word doc that might need to be split into multiple chunks
2k i think?
Use world doc. I don't remember the limit but im almost always over it i don't even bother now to send there normally just as an attachment. Better than hunting the pieces of one split feedback in my opinion
oh attachment is a brilliant idea 😮
Ktjn when she lurks on this channel tmr and sees all our concerns:

I think the update notes for this build is a bit lacking. There are tons of things that we discover that arent even in the note, and some stuffs in the note that dont even work. Ktjn must be exhausted this week tho so I’m counting on her return for more info 
We tried to do a cr last night in beta but my friend has an android phone and she literally crashed every 5 minutes. But she said she didn’t crash so much when she flew alone.
I don't think I will have the ultimate mask 
Ummm, how about crashing while in relive cutscene of the pointing spirit in Isle, and friend's name became wingdings?
Yeah, both the crashing and random names are bugs. Crashing mostly happens an androids when someone else chirps while you are flying
And i got nearly 1 candle after relive again-
good morning, finally finished backreading.
seems like the crash party is still on fire 
and lots of bug
How many days til the season end on beta?
I went to Eden last night just fine but crashed so much today I just gave up on trying to really do much of anything.
With the update, it seems like all spirits give candle wax one a day like when you relived them the first time.
The season ends tomorrow in beta
27 more candles a day? juicy
Idk, it said 0 but i still can collect seasonal candles
Also, reliving spirit in Isle give approximately 1 candle each sp(i only done w the first 2, now checking the last one and prairie)
How can I get the chance to download the Sky beta 
its all written in #beta-faq !
#beta-faq message
Did butterfly spirit yesterday and today, and can confirm that every spirit gives you 1 candle a day, resetting at reset like all candle wax. Yay more candles 
not 1 but 0.75 candles. special spirits like whale call dont give you wax
that’s still 27.75 candles if you relieve every spirit 
so do we know if it’s a bug or if it’s intentional?
Time to relive all of the spirits except the special ones every day

do the valley race spirits give candles ?
i don’t even think you can relive them
not sure if its intentional because that makes like 27 additional candles a day (so 45+ candles with a full CR) this cant be lmao. have fun while it lasts
TRUE
i guess they wanted to lower the amount of wax you get when reliving a spirit for the first time (from 1 candle to 0.75)
The downside is that you have to relive every spirit to get that many and you gotta watch the cutscenes as well 
it’s still faster than cr though isn’t it
not that i’m gonna start reliving the spirits
i don’t rlly have need for candles in beta and i’m already gonna have a lot when these sc convert
alright so
let the valley race spirits not be able to be relieved (that’s 3 less spirits). Then the whale and memory call don’t give candles (that’s 2 less). We’re left with 32 spirits.
32 • 0.75 = 24
so on a regular day, it’d be
18.51 + 24 = 42.51
and on sundays it’d be
19.28 + 24 = 43.28
that's a lot of candles to be getting each day 
I- OMG.
That is pog 
Maybe this is another way the devs are trying to lessen candle running stress? Just not sure if its intentional since nothing was mentioned in the notes
you can get almost 100 in just 2 days 
dang if they wanted to make cr less of a grind this would help
alright so
let the valley race spirits not be able to be relieved (that’s 3 less spirits). Then the whale and memory call don’t give candles (that’s 2 less). We’re left with 32 spirits.
32 • 0.75 = 24
so on a regular day, it’d be
18.51 + 24 = 42.51
and on sundays it’d be
19.28 + 24 = 43.28
@pine remnant cant you relive the race ones?
cant you relive the race ones?
@strong canopy to be on the safe side, I assumed you couldn’t relive them
No, you can't relive race spirits, you only get the 1 candle from the race itself
got it
then with eden and office you can get more. the max must be around 45.5 lol. wow
I like this idea honestly
also people will actually pay attention to the spirits
yes. lets not tell them about this and if they notice tell them its cool to keep lol*
though my concern is fairness, as considering how quickly the total could rise, and some people who have been here for a long time might feel belittled
No you can’t relieve race spirits
wouldn't the relive spirit task kind of give it away though?
though my concern is fairness, as considering how quickly the total could rise, and some people who have been here for a long time might feel belittled
@valid terrace well isnt it cool to see your recent friends get the same stuff as you?
idk i feel like it’d benefit everyone. more candles is more candles
I have 840 candles in live, honestly I’d like my friends with less time than me to have more options to get candles
I really don't think we'll get to keep the extra candle wax from reliving spirits that long. I think it's just a "happy accident" right now.
If this stays, maybe to balance it out make it half a candle per spirit?
Either way, we'll have to wait to see if this was intentional or not
it would be especially beneficial to people who dont really have the time/energy to cr anymore
I don’t like using the spirits to reduce cr stress though. Having people running memory sequences everywhere will block sceneries of the realms. Just a thought

also anyone noticed the extra ac point in some spirits?
there have been lots of requests for quicker ways to get candles. all this’ll do is benefit everyone.
- people with less time to cr can still get plenty of candles
- people who cr regularly can add even more candles to their daily count
also it could kill off the memories’ speciality somewhat
I agree with Liliana. The whole point of first removing the ability to relive spirits and then making it a more active choice, was to avoid all the confusion and mess of having spirit memories constantly triggered.
idk i’ll take this over making ts require ap
TS requiring AP isn't related to this topic,though.
I’m the one obsessed with spirits here so I might be wrong but
it might dampen the story because you’re focused on going along the spirits and not what’s going on
so many spirits’ memories get forgotten, Vol. I think having more incentive to relive them would just mean more spirit love !
Yeah same Lucy. But we are not taking one feature over another though, we’re giving feedback on the best thing devs can do with this problem
TS requiring AP isn't related to this topic,though.
@hollow compass it is in the sense of if this was to relieve cr stress, shouldve clarified 😓
You can see they’re definitely experimenting with ideas on how to do it.
we still don't know if it's a intentional or a beta only thing though
i read relive spirits as 'relive stress' and i got confused for a sec 
i agree with Voluntary. i feel like if we relive spirit memories over and over they'll lose their special touch. people will relive memories not to appreciate the spirits but more to just get the candles from them. i dunno, just an opinion.
Honestly, I don't think this is to relieve cr stress. I think it's just something that was accidentally turned on.
yes, that’s why i said if
:O
Spirits seem only seen as candle-centric by a lot of people already (think TSs), we don’t need more of it
Yep Voluntary. That one piece of wax from lighting those memories
The one piece doesn't even count.
it would give the regular spirits more use outside of daily quests though. how many people outside of moths do you see reliving spirits 
I am the spirit-obsessed one here though so I’m def biased
yeah, the one piece from lighting up the spirit doesn't count towards your candle count.
Really? Man I’m desperate to forge a candle sometimes hehe
Are there any spirits got story changed like the 2 in Isle?
Those who are interested in spirits will naturally revisit them for their stories. People who are not interested will not review at all without candles.
well if the spirits dose give that much candles people will start to have many candles saved each day, many be they will rise the price for TS because a raised base amount or
just the two in isle.
I keep feeling TGC doesn’t really care about the spirits too but then there was the update with Pilgrim and Migrant - now Candlemaker and Stargazer
and that’s a pretty damn cool update if you ask me
I just go relive again in live to compare coz my memory is lmao
For the two spirits of isle, it is very happy to see the new animation.Their story about the birth of sky-child
that’s exactly what I wanted to see for the spirits
love
maybe if they did .25 wax it wouldn’t be so drastic
There are 37 basegame spirits so uh
I just woke up idk but I’m pretty sure it’s a bug cause they changed the spirit stories so we’re basically reliving them again ?
What if they only assigned wax to quest spirits like cry spirit and telekinesis
They changed all the spirit stories?
.25 or maybe .5 would make sense.
But then again, this could definitely just have been turned on on accident.
Lyze, I checked and its a daily thing for every spirit, even ones that haven't been changed
someone said 32 relivable ones earlier so .25 * 32 is 8 + the rest of wax
That’s right at least the ones in isle had their stories changed
I didn't know there's a spirit upgrade. Shookt
only two in isle had it updated
I actually like these new stories, gives more lore 👀
reliving the memories of the spirits is giving candle? I don't understand
The ones I relived in prairie didn’t change
but only 32 can be relieved.
32 x .25 = 8
regular day: 18.51 + 8 = 26.51
sundays: 19.28 + 8 = 27.28
They give wax
that feels more reasonable
i really wonder if any more will be changed, some spirits don't really have a story, it immediately cuts to them doing the emote
cough rhythm dancer
Voyager and Migrant-Stargazer watched a descendant be born, how is that not revolutionary for the lore
the lore people will go WILD
spirits from older seasons had no cutscene
I think the 2 new stories in isle were really cool
I’m among the lore people. I’m scared now 
cough rhythm dancer
@tiny umbra
“Today I shall walk up a hill and dance.”
- Spin-Dancer
So the one in 8 person puzzle didn't give wax right?
Uhh I’d check but you know how things are there in beta
anyone got 7 friends to go and test it with 
YOu already have all that wax up there.
Bellmaker actually had some reason to walk up the hill though
regular bell cleaning and general maintenance
I think the one we had to relive for today’s task didn’t give wax but I’m not sure I didn’t really pay attention 😂
I feel that a lot of the stories of the spirits have been somewhat lost over time.
I really really really want that jar with the butterflies in it.Hopefully, it will show up one day.
Pouty Porter (teal cape spirit) was carrying a multicolored orb that they dropped and I really don’t know what that was about
“it’s too heavy hhhh why am I expected to carry this”
but only 32 can be relieved.
32 x .25 = 8
regular day: 18.51 + 8 = 26.51
sundays: 19.28 + 8 = 27.28
@copper bison this value is when you get the spirit for the first time or whenever you revive they win it?
people who would've barely missed the boogie pants are super happy now 
i still miss it lol, but i can save for juggling now uwu
wait are candles comverting today?
Pouty Porter (teal cape spirit) was carrying a multicolored orb that they dropped and I really don’t know what that was about
it was a light orb, putting them into pots, but since it was too heavy to carry, the spirit got upset they couldn't carry it
And I didn’t even know dismayed hunter was holding a bow and arrow until recently and even then what ?? Did they miss a shot with an arrow or something ?
spirit reliving seems to give wax in the update
Btw, the star fall in Stargazer's story is the one mentioned in game opening?
Oooh so that's why they're angry @ Pouty Porter
Was wondering for ages
the pot they're supposed to carry is missing
this value is when you get the spirit for the first time or whenever you revive they win it?
this is the actual one, the 0.25 candle thing is an ideal
let the valley race spirits not be able to be relieved (that’s 3 less spirits). Then the whale and memory call don’t give candles (that’s 2 less). We’re left with 32 spirits.
32 • 0.75 = 24
so on a regular day, it’d be
18.51 + 24 = 42.51
and on sundays it’d be
19.28 + 24 = 43.28
I thought Porter was angry that they dropped it 👁️ not that others were angry at them
relive spirit will get 0.5candle at least
you can only relive 32 of them, so that's 32 x 0.25. add it on to the total wax you can get by candle running.
and like voi said, you seem to get wax from reliving spirits this update. (the actual amount is .75, but we were discussing if it was .25.)
no one was angry at the porter, they were angry at themselves for not being able to carry it
I still get so confused when people call the spirits by their official names.Who is the Dismayed Hunter again?
spirit from forest (it's not the right emote icon but they are both similar shh)
oh that one
maybe they were hunting for birds?
I need to go relive it, I don't remember.
purple cape spirit is dismayed hunter. from forest.
The purple cape spirit
the one with the big pigtails
I’ve also heard deer along with bird or rabbit
Some of the changes made to the regular spirits' memories made their stories "weaker"; there was a point to some of them being carry spirits, because you would relive their hardships through having to keep their flame alive. Like the shiver spirit and the lookout.
ive heard that she was the one who shot down the whale 
how big is this update?
Depends on OS, it's 838MB for me
Above 800mb like always-
Hm, the Dismayed Hunter memory: there is a small manta flying through those hollow tree trunks as you follow the spirit's memory. Maybe they tried to shoot the manta? The ending cut scene is very short and doesn't really tell you anything.
I’ll go watch it again, I think I took a recording back when they were easier to see but I’m not sure if I still have it
possibly shot the manta and felt guilt
Lyze, I just redid the memory now. 🙂
Ohhh sorry well in that case that manta is always there even without the spirit memory but I never considered it to be part of the spirit story ? Usually when there’s a prop item it’s bright and opaque and clearly a prop so 
sorry I’m behind but are you guys talking about a new update for beta :<
Yes,it might just be incidental. I also don't remember how this memory was originally in beta.
Whens the new season gonna be in beta

No idea. We haven't had any announcement about it.
Prophecy literally ends today.
Omg, are we getting more Cosmetics for normal Spirits
(i hope so :))
But, 150,75 hearts 😭?👁️👄👁️
prices could be placeholders too, i find them brutal
I really really hope so
Or they are presents for the old-timers who now have hundreds of hearts in their inventory...? (No, I hope they're not. But I know some have asked/complained about it.)
they're tied to completion though, imagine that you're almost done with a constellation but then they whip that 150 heart item nae nae
Bringing new Cosmetics might be a bit wonky but i just want them.... No matter the issues😳
If it’s for vets why not put them at the elder spirit trees like the invisicape 
Yeah, that might be more easy but we aren't even sure if these are really new things coming or a mistake on their part yet
people about to finish vault but then the update hits
I think these items should be more of an ultimate style thing where you can't access them before finishing the rest of the constellation, but you could get the ultimate hairs before you get them - otherwise completion just got a lot time consuming and even off-putting to some
it's just the same cape but a shade slightly darker that you barely notice it
just started my bug reports 
also, i'm at crash number 23
I feel a bit spoilt now, playing on iOS. I hope there is a quick fix soon!
prices could be placeholders too, i find them brutal
@kindred fossil and strange how they are all just exactly x3 the original prices
this reminds me of early android beta. you used to crash if you walked up to certain spirits or winged light for no reason
Just wanted to let people’s know that I just updated to iOS 14.2 on both my phones Xs max and 12 pro max and Sky beta runs even better than ever - I recommend for those devices ... not sure about others ....
Sometimes that spirit bugs out but you can't finish it
are u sure it was till the end? :0
what was a spoiler? there was no conversation here 
also, beta channels always have spoilers, especially after an update
and thanks ùwú
Anyone else having the issue of their app closing repeatedly while attempting to do an Eden run and now that I finally got through while I'm collecting my light
I have android and I have no desire to switch. I have problems only with buggy builds. I can even play Sky at 60fps if I choose to. And honestly I feel privileged to even be able to get a top end model every two years. Alot of our younger community isn't so lucky as to even have a choice of what they get to play on.
hey beta, I got some rumours about a new season? are you guys being introduced to a new season rn?
No.
Nope, there's no season it's all rumours.
It was a fan-made season by a youtuber but everyone thought it is new season, it's not.,
It’s crazy how fast the rumors about new season an ultimates turning back are spreading around social media 

Haha there’s a new season rumor and suddenly beta chat goes zoom zoom
where can i take a look of the rumor video
It must have been a good fanmade then
haha true when motd of beta turns to 24 hrs everyone be like

also motd of beta is not accurate
asking unofficial/illegitimate information in an official server
wait until a teaser !
Wait, what's the motd in beta?
message of the day
same time as when ts leaves
which is about 12-13 hours to go
they say its inaccurate tho, so idrk tbh
I mean, ik that, i meant what it says
I mean, ik that, i meant what it says
@silent lily oh nothing, i was talking about the time of motd
Why would it be wrong to ask about unofficial things ? It's something a fan made with it's talent it seems it's misleading but they probably worked hard on it and probably deserved credit, same goes for Fanart and all
A new seasons not going to show up tho.. for that they get. New round of beta testers
also I'm not sure if it will happen this time
so like
when season ends, go to shop, click "?" and slide to the seasonal candle info it will show new seasonal logo
after reset
@dusty crystal it unnecessarily spreads rumors and before you know it people have expectations ... if the official season isn’t what their expectations are - disappointment and anger at TGC.. all of this is really unnecessary
The same thing happened when some sources started predicting what the TS would be a week before it came - when the prediction was wrong, people got angry at TGC -_-

also keep in mind, don't send tgc hate if you didn't get a nice season they are working hard 24/7
for unofficial stuff, just please remember to take it with a grain of salt until there's an official update from tgc 
my english is saying goodbye to me
I see a LOT and when I say a lot it's really a lot of fan made items of fan made season on IG I will never expect it to be in the game ofc, if people take it as a rumor it shouldn't be the author fault unless they didn't specify clearly it was fan season, and of course people who say "this will be next TS" are wrong and should stop
bot chooses the ts and devs makes the ts teaser
I don’t think people should perpetuate it on official discord threads tho - because imagine someone new walks in, they don’t see the conversation or the context but the newest message they see is “dang that’s soo cool!!” And a previous message that says “season of —-“ and they see it’s on the beta channel — a lot of people will start taking it seriously
Sorry for the ping>< removed the @
Yeah since we've seen Chinese TS come for the global TS people think that it will be the same TS like.. always the same
Yeah I understand, it's sad but I understand
How many people in beta have 150 stars?
not much
Sorry for my wordings above. Personally I think the problem is this current 'rumour' is from hack/dataminers which should be highly restricted to spread anywhere
People who aren't aware might keep asking here or there without knowing those are breaking rules.
btw did the 11 wedges cape pattern come with this update?
nah
ktjn mentioned itll be on a future patch iirc?
Oooh I wasn't aware of that, I understand why you said that Saki x)
asking unofficial/illegitimate information in an official server
honestly i'd rather people come check in here instead of spreading the rumors further without factchecking
Yup I’m staring at my 36 winged stars now 🤣🤣
i have 101 (need to go to eden but the crashes make me anxious to do a run oof also lazy)
if there is a new logo imma rush in to see out of sheer curiosity
Random note guys the sky kid might be the first winged light :O maybe the next season will us the origin story of the first winged lights
i think they just made the purpose of the game clearer more than anything else
i dont think thats more lore. its prolly just a better explanation
honestly i'd rather people come check in here instead of spreading the rumors further without factchecking
Yeah although we can help literally nothing if people believe those non-official infos are reliable sources![]()
let’s not talk about rumors at all please
You people think the ponytail candlemaker is the Prophecy student?
Or maybe even further Migrant/Stargazer too?
coincidence...I think not
I def think the ponytail candlemaker is the student but I don't know if I agree that it's Migrant-Stargazer
the fire t rial brightness got adjusted 
I’ll post pics 
voi found out I wasn’t joking when I said I’m usually in full servers today
and I proceeded to unlock piggyback with 3 people to
Has anyone had a chance to test the functionality of the you and i pins? I’m curious on how they work
Fire trial was a pleasant surprise with the light adjustment
And thank you everyone who survived my horrible leading skills in there
You can't ask for trades on this server 
I'm sorry... on which server should i ask?
I thought this isn't supposed to be in the looking-for-group server QAQ...
Ah, the whole server, you can't ask on the whole sky discord server
I see, thanx!
Which spirits got new memories?
I know the point and come spirits did have y'all notice any more?
if there were they would've listed them, so i don't think so
Calls. Think only bird call has memory.
Ohh yeah yesterday I thought I saw bird call with a different cutscene but I hadn’t seen it in a while so I wasn’t sure
does anyone remember if that spirit was sitting down and holding birds before in their cutscene ?
Yup!
Before prophecy season I did saw when I relieved it.
Oh ! Ok then it must have been just me then yay
Is Eden crashing in this build? I am thinking about going for a run there now
i went earlier and it worked totally fine!
Alright then!
eden isn't crashing any more than anywhere else. if you're ios you are good but android good luck
androids are crashing everywhere when other players chirp. i crashed in eden 4 times yesterday because i went with friends
The spirit find the sky kid
Does this mean we can see the living spirit in the future
They probably brought them to the Isle Elder
Maybe, I look forward to the studio to perfect the game plot
gonna do fire trial for my 150th star 
question: has anyone else used a resize since this update? i used one and the effect took place without restarting 
In a trial, if a friend finished and reached the destination, can u teleport to him and get to the end?
@random gull I used 5 so far and all of them worked
woo maybe its fixed!
@tired wedge Yes, you can warp to friends anytime in a trial, even if they are already at the end
Anyone bought the new cape ?
some people have, but dont wear or try it on in the closet, itll crash your game and might even lock you out from it
Ouhhhh i see !! Its so expensive 🤣🤣🤣
In a trial, if a friend finished and reached the destination, can u teleport to him and get to the end?
Not in earth trial. In earth trial if you and your friend in different checkpoint, once you guys use return shrine, you both get reset to starting point. It's a bug (or feature?) since last build. Haven't try in new update
I did earth trial with a group after the update with no resets to the beginning. and I definitely died a lot at the parkour part before giving up and warping. lost precision control with my hands so parkour got harder for me
@random gull may I DM you for some details Kai
I didn’t really take any pictures but if you have specific questions I can probably answer (yes dm is ok)
I was wondering if double heart event starts when season prophecy is over 
Beta may came early so I rather say in here
we'll know in a few hours as Prophecy ends next reset
beware the ||

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beta doesn’t get the double heart or double candle events ot TS any earlier than live. we wont’ know the date until they announce it in #news
We don't usually test those events
i want to clarify, the whale whisperer spriit, was the invisible cape fully removed, or was it moved to that spirit?
It's been a while since it was moved to orbit as a second vault ultimate gift
Did anyone else notice that beta is two versions ahead of live ? What’s up with that 
I mean we just got some instense new content what with them adding a whole lot of stuff to the base game
not every dev build makes it to beta
Wait so how do you use the you and I pins? Do the spells work the same way?
What do u guys think the ts change is
adjustments to the pricing probably!
hmmm. I'm curious too
relieving spirit is gonna be normal for us now hahaha I love it
Hopefully it’s a spirit before enchantment otherwise I can’t test 
I really appreciate the lighting adjustments in the fire trial 😂 I’m still blind but less blind haha
haha I'm gonna test it later.
The candles seem to be a little brighter so you can see a little bit more ahead
Quick question, do we get a candle every time we relive a spirit now?
We get 0.75 of a candle, which depending on how much you already have before you relive, is basically a candle anyways
Mmmmmmm good... thanks
the candle wax you get from spirits is like any other candle wax, resetting at reset. you can only get wax from each spirit once per day
we have no idea if the change was intentional or not though.
My candle run is gonna last a little bit longer now which is good and bad at the same time:')
but now you don't have to run everyday to get enough for a ts (if it stays) 
i think someone did the math, with the change you now get about 45 candles per day if you do a full cr
damn. 45?
The spirits are probably gonna be ALOT more expensive if that's the case
let the valley race spirits not be able to be relieved (that’s 3 less spirits). Then the whale and memory call don’t give candles (that’s 2 less). We’re left with 32 spirits.
32 • 0.75 = 24
so on a regular day, it’d be
18.51 + 24 = 42.51
and on sundays it’d be
19.28 + 24 = 43.28
here's the math for it (from brick)
My saviour :0
Please let this not come to live.
The inflation that would cause. 
... But candles
It would break the economy I reckon.
The sky kid economy
Yup
we were discussing this earlier, if it were to go to live, ideally spirits could give .25 candles instead of .75, to add to the candle count and ease stress from running while not adding too much all at once.
Ok so in simpler terms... Wax from spirit will be lessened so its not too op?
Hmm, perhaps. I feel like adding in all the spirits to a candle run would be a bit much though, although I like the idea of reliving more of them. If it was to happen I'd be more interested in seeing maybe .5 or .75 per spirit but only from the spirits in the candle cake realm each day.
Ok so in simpler terms... Wax from spirit will be lessened so its not too op?
@unreal gyro We don't know if this is intentional or not yet, it might just be a bug. At any rate if its intentional I hope it is lowered.
yeah, that was the idea. but of course, this is probably just a happy accident that giving wax was turned on. we'll probably get to know more about it and if it's staying tomorrow
Hasn't ktjn mentioned that the reason for the AP lock on TS (in beta) is to decrease the grindy feeling of having to collect wax everyday for two weeks?
What if they intend to give more wax now, so that a player has the option to grind 1-2 realms per day only?
For example, collect prairie wax + relive prairie spirits + collect forest wax + relive forest* spirits will be enough for one day,
then tomorrow, said player can proceed to valley wax + spirits and GW wax and spirits
This also makes the maps less repetitive day by day because we'll have the option to grind only 1-3 realms and still get enough wax to prepare for TS.
Hmm, I mean that would be nice but have to remember some people will grind everything given to them. Some people even grind eden daily 
Anyone else's Beta client crashing?
Stahr it’s really bad crashing for most androids right now. not as much for ios but still some crashes. welcome to beta it be broken
Additionally, they might have done this to encourage us to help moths in reliving spirits...
Anyone else's Beta client crashing?
Did you buy and equip the placeholder cape?
I cannot grind daily now that school has started (And I do photography for a living rn so that takes time too) so that TS system would be very helpful as to not cause me stress cause I want to stay on top of the TS cosmetics ^-^
Hasn't ktjn mentioned that the reason for the AP lock on TS (in beta) is to decrease the grindy feeling of having to collect wax everyday for two weeks?
What if they intend to give more wax now, so that a player has the option to grind 1-2 realms per day only?For example, collect prairie wax + relive prairie spirits + collect forest wax + relive forest* spirits will be enough for one day,
then tomorrow, said player can proceed to valley wax + spirits and GW wax and spiritsThis also makes the maps less repetitive day by day because we'll have the option to grind only 1-3 realms and still get enough wax to prepare for TS.
@spark lance oh and the more time you have the more you get to spend time with your friends which is the main point of the game
Additionally, they might have done this to encourage us to help moths in reliving spirits...
I like the idea but I don't think brining a moth on a fast paced candle run including spirits would be good. The leader would need to slow right down to let the moth experience the awe of skyNot everyone would remember or think to do that though.
Precisely.
Plus, more money wax from reliving spirits mean players could be gravitated towards reliving spirits, veterans and non-vets alike,
And it makes assisting moths in collecting wax and unlocking emotes so much more bearable
@random gull thank you 😊
And, haven't seen any placeholder capes Lord, I can barely stay logged in 🤣
When I was a moth, the player who assisted me didn't even bother to think about my precious moth experience.
They simply dragged me along 
Hmm, I mean that would be nice but have to remember some people will grind everything given to them. Some people even grind eden daily
@late mountain Well that's not TGC's fault.
I will eat every candle given to me :)
._.
No but if you over double the candle count possible each day that's going to give a huge increase of supply to those that have the time while others may feel left in the dust.
Its just me expressing my thoughts on if this is intended and I will leave feedback once I find out. I love TGC and what they've done with this game, but still want to try and help with the community to make it the best it can be. 
No but if you over double the candle count possible each day that's going to give a huge increase of supply to those that have the time while others may feel left in the dust.
@late mountain You make an excellent point
It’d literally destroy the economy, like others above said. All the regular items would become much less valuable. So would elder’s hair. Finishing all the constellations would take much less time. And since finishing them is one of the most common main goals of the players who simply don’t have much more to do in the game anymore, I feel like it’d create a huge problem. Let’s wait and see if it really is a bug 
But what if TGC imposes on a time limit per player per day?
To prevent them from playing too much
Kinda like when candy crush requires you to wait a few hours
NO PLS DON’T some weekends I will literally be on sky for like 8 hours and I would cry if I couldn’t have my weekends to relax on sky
Sky is more about friendship and playing together, imposing a time limit so people have to grind all the time they have to make wax would crush that feeling.
Oof, I feel like it would also have a potential to create further problems 
Please, i need attention 🆘
Me and my friend together candle run but i was auto out from the game too many time. And instead of my friend nickname the other symbol is appear. And i found the name at stranger's head.
I can't together play with my friend. Please help me..🥺
It's the problem I'm having on mine too. My friend was named
*#3/4
but was actually Anna, and warp wouldn't work either
Your problem is a very common one currently Pancake, and you can make a bug report in #beta-bugs-android or #beta-bugs-ios (I'm guessing you're android considering your problem tho), and wait for it to be fixed. This beta update came with a lot of crash bugs :' )
@spark lance yes, like that.. but out from the game is too bad
@simple bobcat Thanks Lu and sorry for send other channels
Enter the wardrobe to change the bucket to break the flash back game
It's ok pancake! It's just we don't want any spoilers or anything in the live channels 
Imo spirits can give wax. But 0.25wax are too much. Like it will destroy the currency system. 0.1 candle per spirit is a sweet spot
Haven't login into beta for quite awhile now and to my suprise it's as active as live but packed with lots of Chinese newbie - looking players
what's going on?
people breaking TOS really. if they’re on through third party apps report and block them and don’t discuss it here
there’s some newbie beta testers who got in legitimately because google allows new people in when old ones leave
Hopefully by tomorrow the devs will give more info about what all of this is, such as the weird capes, the candles from spirits, etc. hoping to see things in #beta-known-issues and #beta-announcements soon too
beta changes a lot. Beta and live are really two different game rn
That’s true! There’s some absolutely INSANE glitches in beta, during prophecy almost the entire sliding race went yellow for some reason- and I read somewhere that there was a GIGANTIC bonfire in home space during belonging beta?
Next ts will be locked behind pass?
We'll see the changes when the ts comes
Can't wait haha
remember the floor is lava. that's what beta's welcoming this season.
We have no idea if it’ll be locked behind pass. The changes are coming to beta next ts and no one knows what they are
I think the reliving spirits and getting 0.75 of a candle is a bug... I mean if they really do that - that’s insane... they’re really just crushing any and all need to candle run/purchase candle packs... isn’t that bad for the studio?
Candle inflation
That said tho... I can’t help but feel a sort of connection to the game reliving the spirits —- lmao tho I’m only reliving them so I get 34 * 0.75 = 25 candles _
I can totally see it causing major problems, but I’m guessing if they keep it bc people like it, they should make it 0.25th of a candle or less
I doubt it’ll be kept tho
but. big appreciation to the spirit stories. It's a whole new experience
Or guys.. maybe they added this new way of getting candles because they’ll be adding more items/cosmetics to unlock in game + AP locking the TS spirits
I really like how it allows us to relive the spirits too, I feel like it connects us more bc a lot of people just think about candle running, ts, and seasons. No regard for anything else and it feels nice to do it more often
That could be possible, especially with the new mystery items on top of the caped spirits
I agree if I could pick, I’d pick reliving spirits to melting darkness ><
I love how we actually get a reason to rewatch all these cutscenes..! (Even tho there are a few annoying ones)
yes that is true. sometimes a friend would ask me to go candle running. I'm just like nah. let's go to sanctuary and enjoy the beach.
Remember how capeless cape had its own spirit but is now placed behind vault elder? Maybe it’s something similar, a warmup for more elder items? I know Jenova Chen confirmed more elder items a while back
maybe more lores next season.
Not sure why seasonal things would be placed behind a normal spirit tho
Interesting... so me and a friend just tried to see if we could get double candles by me first reliving the spirit, then collecting the candle.. then having them trigger the reliving... doesn’t look like it works
As in the final stage doesn’t even appear to me... I can;t melt the statue
If they thought this out.. then maybe this’ll be a thing
I think these are really intended to be variations on the base capes (I’m hoping cool patterns!)
How to make a empty server in beta: honk
i just noticed my beta app crashin after the latest update 
There is no way that the ultimates can be acquired with in game currency right?
Also when will the next season in beta start? 
There is no way that the ultimates can be acquired with in game currency right?
@worn trail so far i think no, unless the season is on and you have the ap (since we're beta tester yes)
Uhh all ultimates I got so far were gained with ingame currency 
I’m hoping for maybe more normal items, but if they are more normal items on normal spirits it doesn’t make sense, how would it work if u have already completed the constellation if they add these items onto the normal spirits? Since it would cause some problems I kind of just think these are placeholders for the elder items, but that’s just my theory
lets just wait for announcements from tgc. ppl do be asking when's the next season when current one is only halfway through
Uhh all ultimates I got so far were gained with ingame currency
@sand dawn kinda true actually
maybe the updated spirit is a key to the season prophecy final cut scene
The new
spirit cutscene looks cool
i'm gonna check it out the new cutscenes and try to connect something
I can sense some major things coming to beta pretty soon with these insane spirit thingys, wondering what’s gonna happen
Also what's the new thing that cost 150 heart and shows "X" sign ??
Remember how capeless cape had its own spirit but is now placed behind vault elder? Maybe it’s something similar, a warmup for more elder items? I know Jenova Chen confirmed more elder items a while back
@ionic bluff i recall someone mentioned about the possibilities of new elder items. those valley elders clothes are chef kiss. let's just wait for tgc's announcement regarding this issues
*more floor is lava
150 hearts 
imagine the new items end up to be placeholder elder clothing

Thank god i have every constlation unlocked or else i had to buy more expensive stuff on live

Imagine pass for 150 hearts
@worn trail no way :/
Oof 150 hearts rip rip rip
well makes sense. ive also completed all constellation as well. what if those nodes are the additional items of elders we can acquire after finishing a certain constellation? the wig alone are not worth hundreds of hearts and candle we spent on the const, tbh
Paying money or getting gifted pass is more fair tho
One question though, as soon as a season ends in beta does another one start or do we have the normie questgiver for some time?
Normie
Just calculated..
729💛 if all these new items cost 3x the spirit’s cape
Lots of heart giving and receiving needs to happen for that :’D
Ii-
All those hearts made my heart break 
how cool, I enter the beta and the game closes in less than 15 seconds ... applause 
@gaunt prism, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Today we say farewell to Prophecy guide
Well.. no slacking off during double hearts I guess xD
Huh season ends today in beta?
You new to beta ? @worn trail
In about 4 hours give or take
Huh season ends today in beta?
@worn trail in a few hours
The bird watcher’s memory tho 🥰🥰. It’s so cute
Sorry for the ping ankahsksj
I don't have time for beta. Barely able to complete CRS in the live so 
Nah prophecy guide will still be vibin in his cave
Who staying up for the seasonal candles turn into candles
yeah you seems new
Meeeee
Same
Nah prophecy guide got his buddy manta boi and robert hat dude
so how many spirits got upgraded
All the regular cape spirits
every cape spirit got a wing buff and a new (but bugged) item.
sanctuary and enchantment quest giver to prophecy : welcome to the lonely gang
Which is the hardest non seasonal spirit? 
like all of em has new stories?
Which is the hardest non seasonal spirit?
@worn trail the one that u need to chase in valley
Who staying up for the seasonal candles turn into candles
I only have one seasonal candle because since I’ve been absent thanks to my long term grounding. I just got the ult in live today and I’m so thankful.
Which is the hardest non seasonal spirit?
@worn trail whale call in valley's citadel
no, only point and 'come here' spirit in isle got new cutscenes. cape spirits have their constellations upgraded
Haha nice friends helped me and I barely remember doing them(relieving the memories)
@i have to say that was the most fun way I got 10 candles in this game :’D by reliving spirits
maybe their stories are related to the ending of season of prophecy
I have long been waiting for this day....



lol skybot
After the current ts I'ma start a petition to bring welcome spirit
Sassy stance spirit again 😂
i want the don't go. it's so dramatic. I love it
Gratitude salute 
I really want welcome too, like his pants. Cant wait to see the new ts changes in beta
@terse flame JUGGLE, I WANT JUGGLE

YES JUGGLE
yes juggle (3)
Now name every spirit 
Oh dear, we love talking about ts don’t we, but if we are gonna talk about ts can we move this to #seasons-events-chat
@worn trail seasonal or non seasonal
Seasonal(jotaro)
oh dear

I want the don’t go too XD then every time I die cause a krill attacks in wasteland... I’ll just don’t goooo to my winged light
Beta discussion nothing to see here
I know every spirit but i can't name them as in Game names 
I love how gen chat was screaming boogie boogie and the ts came as boogie
Maybe

Juggle juggle
Stay on topic guys, please
Like jarvis said, that is better suited for #seasons-events-chat or #general-sky-discussion 
we are on topic 
So what were the "new" stuff which non seasonal spirits have?
This is discussion of ts, not beta. Please keep correct discussion in correct channels thank you
The new stuff i see is "x"
X men?
We don’t know, but so far there is a nope
No no, it's like the "remove button"
Maybe wax from spirits is a beta only thing so that it's a bit less intense to farm in beta to test out stuff
Yeah that seems like a good reason
Don’t waste your hearts on null-items (because they are literally nothing)
They seem to be some kind of new capes. I’m wondering if the capes we see in the cape wardrobe are just the mirrored capes? Like purple cape is mirrored on its spirit. Weird. Has me wondering what the little x means on some of the others
What if the old Cape designs are brought back?!
There's new stuff?
If anything.. reliving all the spirits on your farming run... is way more work (but such generous reward!)
Somewhat doubt that’s how they would bring it back.
This is more intense than #lore-discussion-spoilers
What am I missing here? Granted I walked in in the middle of the conversation, but...
It's a mystery even now. Gotta wait
So pretty much, weird null items are appearing on caped spirits. There’s new unidentifiable capes in the cape wardrobe but when u try to put them on, ur game crashes
There’s a bunch of not-implemented items that may or may not be new versions of base capes
Would be great if we non beta players got a look of em in #beta-screenshots-videos
I’m just wondering why the capes are mirrored like that
Or it could all just be a bug and we made a huge deal out of it hahaha
That’s what beta is for, insane crazy bugs that look to be something but turn out to be nothing
coughcolorchangingultimategiftmaskcough
A bug that got me enough extra wing buffs to attain 11⭐️ in beta, with some to spare so I don’t even have to go though the trails? Nice..
Brain.exe stopped working
Try again? Quit
Those weird buffs do have me wondering doe
like tgc went out of their way to put them there, maybe these could just be new normal items, nobody knows
guys ,hw many new Spirit wing buffs in beta ?
Give us pics of it 
I can’t give u clear pics since I tend not to care about wing buffs on beta, my spirit trees are all clouded
Surely someone could
9 new wing buffs
The only time I ever really put work into my spirit trees was when I had like 160 candles from getting founders cape in beta plus all candles from reliving spirits and starter pack, so I got bored and completely finished isle of dawn in orbit
But they range from 3 to 12 AC each
thank you Amber
Literally day 2 of beta I did that, just completely out of nowhere finished isle
@jagged marsh do you have the wing buffs in beta? Would like to see some pics of the new items. Sorry for ping here take a heart 
There’s most likely photos in #screenshots-and-videos , I’d go digging a little
We don't know if we we are getting new items. I hope so though
Would some staff member help or is it a secret? Lots of confusion going on 
For a sec I didn't see anything new...then I realized I didn't update the app ._.
it is the weekend so I don’t expect TGC staff to actually be answering any of our questions today. They deserve a break sometimes too
There’s photos if u look up in the chat in #screenshots-and-videos
Also seems to get a lot more drowned out since the weird items, but point and “come here” spirits cutscenes and relives have been updated, flowerpod
It's Monday for me oops (Asia)
It’s still 9 pm on Sunday for TGC, since tomorrow is Monday we will probably be getting more closure on this tomorrow
Yeah, the message in beta updates is likely to be posted tomorrow
Got so carried away by the discussion that I forgot that timezones are a thing 
@worn trail #beta-screenshots-videos
There are beta players who are already posting videos of the spirit trees. What is the point? It seems like a lot of work that just ends up spreading rumors and causing people stress.
alight imma head right out
I'm just showing what it looks like
Just showing what it looks like isn’t much of the problem. It’s still in the actual beta and this could be anything, we have no clue
I think khe meant outside of the discord
I'm not spreading wrong info
I just wanted to show curious players
Yeah not everyone has time for beta so i asked pixpy for help
As i said in screenshot channel
don't buy it !
Just gonna drop this for reference.. even tho this will likely change..
Currently all 9 new wing buffs together are 75 Ascended candles
All new not-implemented items add up to 729 hearts
Unfortunately there’s not much we can do about it spreading outside the discord. Even if we don’t have screenshots people are still gonna spread rumors whatsoever
We have to wait until next build
Those are some expensive wingbuffs 
Dear ELDERS that’s more hearts than it takes to finish all of the constellations COMBINED.
Holy cow what on earth?!
Its fine to post things here, thats what the beta channels are for!
Outside of the discord however, we can't exactly control. Things like the new ts system were taken as fact because of thumbnails in videos about beta. We can't control everything, and its clear that tgc doesn't intend on making beta content secret, but just be mindful if you post screenshots outside of beta 
Also, did any one try to buy place holder and screen shows game data error please re-install and it crashes
the game crashes because the item doesn't actually exist in the game, even if it has an icon.
Dw! It's ok when u restart!
Personally I find posting anything that doesn't even have a context given for what we're seeing in a glitchy build to the outside world a bit irresponsible, but again, it is just my opinion.
Welp, those are hearts you probably won’t see back 
I would like nothing for 150 hearts :)
I love the new isle music tho
i don't plan on buying any of the new 'items'. i've seen what happens when people do that during sanctuary 
Moral of the story: please know what ur buying when u purchase things on sky
but thank u for telling us this, still vital to beta testing
The new items probably cost so much to deter people from getting them right now
cause the assets for them are not even in the game right now haha
^and the ironic part is people still buy them LMAO
no matter the cost beta skykids are a different breed
I don't know why but when i bring my skykid to isle together with a friend we seperate. Is it a bug? Or it's new rule for the beta user?
Where are they even getting that many hearts from?? I’m completely bamboozled
your friend is there, but invisible @formal lintel
it's a bug
If you relive the spirit in the lower cave they reappear!
ghosts of isle of dawn 
remember to keep your honking to a minimum, since android players crash when someone honks on their server
F for Android players 😂😭
@rain delta think again..
999 hearts no-cape was repeatedly stated to NOT be a placeholder price
27 crashes since update
Imagine honking peacefully and suddenly u crash reality, Jesus
your friend is there, but invisible @formal lintel
it's a bug
@slim kayak whoaaa!! Something wrong in isle? Even we try to get there from prairie still seperate.
Greifers in sky? Never met one
So now i got the meme about getting a server to yourself in beta
Amber, but wasn’t that mostly because they didn’t want that many people to be going around without capes? Cause they felt that the base models were a bit wonky and no capes would just make that more prominent
TGC should ban Honking 


(It's a joke)
||(I know)||
||I had a dream||
Did anyone get anything after buying that 150 heart 
Buying a heart?
crash?
I didn’t buy it... but I’d imagine anyone who did gets ||instant regret||
The best idea will be to
||Keep your hearts to yourself||
Someone did buy one of those null cosmetics, and got nothing :' )
They might need therapy now 
Well, maybe it will come soon... like a preorder 😳
I got the cursed yellow cape.. and even tried to put it on.. but luckily the game crashed before switching my cape.. Or I wouldn’t be able to log back in 
Close call there amber, dark got locked out of their game because of that
Expected delivery date? 
Yeas so did Finn 
My friend restarted their device and were able to get in once again
yup, dark got locked out cause they put on the bugged cape. when i tap on their star, my game crashes too 
That explains the weird naming of some friends
the bugged names happen with strangers too. not sure why it happens

Gotta go catch some sneep..
10:55am for me you sure 😂?
Oh it is early morning here

is it just me, or is Beta extra wak lately-?
random crashes and player "names" popping up as random characters. It doesn't matter where they're your friend or not. Whether you lit them or not.
welcome to a new beta update that isn't a stabilisation fix 
new content tends to do that
3 hours left 
This is beta, not the live version, so wouldn’t you expect it to be buggy?
I've crashed 7 times within the past 10 minutes
just finished beta. and the game's fine
Are you on an apple device?
oh sorry, no. is it on apple only?
the constant crashing is android only actually. ios devices aren’t crashing as much
yeah I'm on android
I didn't experience any crash.hmm
it might also depend on device
yeah my galaxy note 10 is crashing a lot and a friend has a xiaomi (forgot model) and hers is crashing about half as much as mine
oh. I'm using xiaomi too. but mine's okay
and I'm using a note
well there’s a common link
weird cuz my note normally doesn’t get the android crashes when my friend’s xiaomi does
the music while relieving the spirits is making me tear up. so beautiful
broo I can't even honk anymore 
yup honking causes crashing
my phone was fine with honking this morning but I guess it changed its mind
hope it gets fixed soon
is it deep calls or any honking?
any honking crashes the game. i've also crashed when sitting down on a chat item with another person
Ah, even other's honking?
I also crashed during the trip to Orbit when I tried to warp to a freind
no need to spoiler in beta channels. but yeah, i crashed in eden 4 times yesterday
Right, need to remember to try not to honk for fear of crashing my android friends 
oh right lol
it seems that it happens when your skykid is in the air, whether they are flying or just, not touching the ground 
My crashes don't seem to be related to honking, they mostly tend to be random. I've managed to fly with people honking and I didn't crash, very odd
My phone is a Galaxy S9
Huh, how interesting. 
I did crash when two people sat on a swing, so that does seem to be a common factor
huh. I have a Galaxy S10+, and I've been crashing a lot, sometimes seemingly at random i'm at 27 crashes now
Yesterday I only crashed twice at random intervals but now it mostly crashes due to honking
does this affect newer devices more? i wouldn't be surprised, since we've had a bug related to higher end devices before
hmm, idk. I have a Note 8
ah yes, we love bugs that we can't figure out 
I just realized something else: I didn't crash at all in Eden except for when I tried to warp to a friend. When I went to Prairie, a single honk would cause me to crash. And I crashed...a lot. (I swear I can English)
Hey guys - I updated beta but my seasonal candles didn’t convert and I can’t find this new scene in isle.. is that normal?
The season ends in about two hours.
the season hasn't ended yet
The season ends at midnight
And the updated spirit scenes are for Point and Come here.
watch, something weird is gonna happen at midnight with our candles
Oh cuz I’ve seen many players already convert and saw so many posts about this new spirit scene
the candles don't convert and we lose them all
season of prophecy is one of my fav no matter what anyone say.
that's happened before
no one's candles have converted yet, but you can see the new spirit cutscenes. be careful though, the game is very unstable right now, so you may experience crashes
when will the next season begin?
and will there be a new wave of invites?
Also: does that mean we have to enroll as beta testers again?
i t h a s ? oh my...
@spark lance When a new season begins testing there will be invite waves. Give yourself the ping role in #beta-signup-info and read up in #beta-faq 🙂
we've had candles disappearing and candles not converting and turning into the next season's candles that we could actually use.
ohh, well that's good for the next season then I guess
@frail widget the new spirit scenes are for the two spirits I mentioned.
omgomgomg new season hype soon
blue, we don't know when the next season will start. presumably it will happen after invite waves, which happens around the time the season ends in live. so maybe a month or so before anything happens
they're prolly have to change the cool down to 10 mins when the new season starts again in beta 
Because no one can behave. 
also is that mermista? @slim kayak
love the pfp
Hello everyone ever since I updated beta yesterday the system keeps on crushing. Everyone has the same problem ?
hoping that it doesn't turn into read only like the first time invite waves happened 
And no one reads FAQ
ah yes, the invite pings... absolute chaos
i was at work when I received it. good times
i bet you 5 winged light that people are gonna stay up for access wipes and get mad that invites weren't sent out at the same time
I'm not willing to take the other side of that bet 
I stayed up a bit late but not for hours
i received pings since sanc but never got to dload the app only until the middle of prophecy 
I wonder how many times the word #beta-faq will come up over the invite ping days 
I just left discord chilling in the background waiting for a ping.
I could have joined beta if the progress could be linked from the live version. Soo much hard work 
So as this was my first time being a beta tester, do the invites get sent out right after the access is closed? >.> so sorry if this was already answered I couldn’t get a clear answer in beta faq
linking the 2 apps would be a bad idea, since in app purchases are completely free in beta
the purpose of beta is not to collect cosmetics or be treated as a live game.
beta is meant for us to test things in advance so that the live version will prosper
Also it wasn’t too bad going through the game again, it was nice getting to go through it a first time again,
how would you be able to check for bugs in reliving memories then, if you don't start from moth

So... is the crush problem being investigated ?