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my friend said he's excited to throw me into the water. wth
I already experienced the season in beta so I don’t need to wait for it to come to live since I know what happens for the most part.
but it's differrent. you have your friends and that's why I'm still excited
Except we're not 100% sure if live will be an exact duplicate of beta on that build. Who knows, there might be surprises waiting for us too 
EDIT: Oh yes, and your friends from live too! Their presence will make a difference. I agree with @fathom river
Gn y’all.
#beta-screenshots-videos message @brisk depot it doesn't (i think), but it's too bright to see XD
@spark lance it look like a rainbow grown in the middle of the mountain lollll
I am low key hoping that they revamped the earth prophet cape. Hope they made it more Earth-y looking, especially the color 
@cold meadow I think what lunarcookie meant was that that player seemed to have been buying more than the usual items from the shop while there's currently only 3 items we can buy as beta testers if you open the shop at home: the starter pack; the witch hat; and the bat cape.
Receiving so many consecutive items back to back to back seemed a little fishy.
I'm considering going to watch the barrier open from the OOB underneath. I figure the barrier itself will probably just vanish like it did for Sanctuary, but what happens underneath and beyond could be a more interesting show. That said, I should prolly just sneep.
are the trials in live going to be like, a weekly occurrence like enchantments boat repair and sanctuary mantas?
Iirc, yes
You mean one new trial released every wk or so, right
one way to find out
I think it would be a two-weeks occurence. I mean, the earth trial is still on default white design surface.
At the moment there seems to be no season finale cutscene.... wonder if that’s intentional or not...
Thats intentional, I believe. Like what happen on previous beta test.
are the trials in live going to be like, a weekly occurrence like enchantments boat repair and sanctuary mantas?
@jolly juniper Probably. In Beta they released three at the beginning and one later, but that was almost certainly just to get the testing done faster. The big question is whether it'll be one every week or one every two weeks.
excuse me but can i get tips/pointers for the fire trial?? i can't get past the the part where the red things blow out the light of the candles and i don't know what to do;;;;;;
will there be ubers for the trials 
wonder what the final cutscene would be like though
excuse me but can i get tips/pointers for the fire trial?? i can't get past the the part where the red things blow out the light of the candles and i don't know what to do;;;;;;
@waxen glacier The creatures move along fixed paths. Sometimes you have to backtrack by a candle or two as soon as you see a creature to find a candle that isn't in its path. They don't all require this, but if you're having trouble, give it a shot.
@waxen glacier The creatures move along fixed paths. Sometimes you have to backtrack by a candle or two as soon as you see a creature to find a candle that isn't in its path. They don't all require this, but if you're having trouble, give it a shot.
@grave jetty ah!!!! thank you so so much🥺 😭 💕 💕
will there be ubers for the trials
@formal rose there will be. Especially for the last trial. Its quite time-consuming when you do the fire trial alone.
It may take a while for a lot of people to get confident enough to uber though.
Missed opportunity to have the water cape have a turtle neck to match with the turtle mask...
why do i dread at the same time become excited for the new season. Am a live player here :"D
so how's the weather there peeps
It raining here..the most important, Isle will be raining with more skykid at live server after reset...hope server in a good condition tho
XD
Will the spirits all come at the same time or weekly too?
true no more lonely Isle
same time i think cuz they didn't come daily in beta
Gonna have vermicelli with all the crabs that keep me up yesterday to celebrate the new season muahahaha

Are all the trials hard and which trials should I be patient with?
All trials 🌚
nah maze is ez
All. Especially the air and fire.
It depends on the player
is the AP worth it this season? Judging from the poster of the new season
Pray that the Live server doesn't self destruct everyone
for me they're all easy except fire one, i got lost there
I think we can get all spirit in one go..but trial is weekly..
I like that the trials are weekly because if they all came out in the same day I would probably play for hours and forget my school work
I think this would be a bi-weekly occurrence. Look at the earth trial. Its still on all white design. Unless tgc made a quick update next weekend tho.
weekly sounds good
so, wait, what exactly are the trials? is that how you unlock the cosmetics from the spirits?
no, from passing the trial you:
- get shiny boi every trial
- get a heart from the quest giver
- upgrade the cave a bit
You’re gonna ruin the surprise 
Trials are like your light quests from Enchantment and bell quests of Sanctuary.
i mean they're coming to beta channels so they already ruined the surprise for themselves 
there are 2 hours left! almost there 
speaking of... reset is at midnight for me. i gotta finish my work so i can go to sleep 
Floor is lava live edition. Comes in 2 hour.
Pain in 2 hours
The devs would literally never let a game breaking bug that severe go live
Oh, how I miss the Floor is lava time. 
on purpose at least
i remember the android disco bug vividly
i'm still really impressed at how fast that one got fixed
Android disco bug sounds funky and horrendous at the same time
Is it what I think it is-
It's exactly what I think it is, seizure inducing, oh my 
Oh god, now i cant stop imagining fire prophet as that flower-on-kat-head m33m
Just curious: has anyone tried using the manta pin spell and has any mantas actually came to recharge your skykid?
Edit: no? okay..
there was a hotfix that made lots of android devices have flashing rainbow colored pixels on the screen at all times. if that's what you're thinking of sal, then yes 
can you go through trials with friends?
Yes. As long as you didn't get a server split.
nimbletheskykid is writing a whole essay
Can anyone explain to me how the new traveling spirit system is I’m confused and I don’t have enough stuff to figure it out >-<
I know it has stuff to do with the adventure pass but will you still be able to unlock nodes without the adventure pass if it is implemented I’m just confused
They say that you need a pass to unlock a certain node. I.e.: level 2, level 4 emotes from the TS and certain cosmetics.
being careful on my answer so that chaos wont start again 
oh god- youre in the middle of the fire trial with your friends, and then they server swap. leaving you alone for the trial 
Okay so you won’t be able to unlock everything if you are unable to get the adventure pass?
it's explained well in the post in #beta-announcements
Dude general is going nuts I need some peace
Ehh, its an idea they're trying 
Never know if it'll go to live.
yea i’m staying away from general until prophecy releases for me in an hour and a half bc it’s chaos rn
The fates have spoken
Hold on, any Wow players? Do you have to buy all the previous packs to play the current game?
I was a bit confused I thought at first it meant you could use the adventure pass or candle grind but I guess I interpreted it wrong thanks for helping me clear this up guys ❤️
If you want to convince Jenova Chen, talk Wow 
Beta chat is somewhat peaceful and quiet during this time. Especially when season is now on going for a few weeks on live
no, from passing the trial you:
- get shiny boi every trial
- get a heart from the quest giver
- upgrade the cave a bit
@limber bone shiny boi? apologies
winged light
General chat is completely bonkers 😂
While beta chat is now peaceful. Not like what happen to this chat this past 2 days.
gen chat just go nyooom
gen chat later:
new season:
10 mins after reset: calm, peaceful cause everybody's busy checking it out
after 10 mins: CHAOS
After reset.. the chaos will switch from gen chat. To #lore-discussion-spoilers believe me.
After today reset is probably a good time to go to beta and practice music without fear of anyone hearing my bad playing
hi
can anyone send fire boi pants with bat mask spirit cape faceless mask and vally elder boy 🤨
If you wait just 1.5 hours you can try them out yourself in the Home closet in Live. 🙂
Omg valley elder boy’s hair with the pants 😍😍
imagine them flexing with the muscle flex emote.
Imagine flexing
oop
yeah I've seen that too they're hackers tho :(
there wasn't a santa cape last year-
Let's not talk about illegitimate content here
I have a question for the sake of clarity, as i understand it, the change in TS we are testing is to lessen the grinding and yet the items that are locked behind the AP also cost candles and hearts?
Okay, I wasn't sure so I didn't report, but I will next time, thanks!
Ohh, wait. what-
I thought it's a veteran thingy. My bad.. Good luck on reporting
@errant pollen
i want to be a santa this christmas and make many children happy in sky
Sorry mirian, I didn't know I wasn't allowed to ask about it...
season soon 
something on my phone is triggering the headphones to appear but theres nothing else open on my phone 
@proven dragon that is the case for now. The idea is still in its early stage so there might be change on price depend on what TGC thinks after reading through all the feedback.
So.. Out of curiosity.. If we can't ask stuff like that here... Where do we ask? I need to know if I should be reporting people or not.. I can't just guess
something on my phone is triggering the headphones to appear but theres nothing else open on my phone
@solid dune try opening another app (like maps) and it should (hopefully) get rid of the headphones.
From what I know, it’s a bug
So.. Out of curiosity.. If we can't ask stuff like that here... Where do we ask? I need to know if I should be reporting people or not.. I can't just guess
@errant pollen Yea.. do we ask directly to the mods/devs..?
When you suspect something and report, TGC will investigate and if the account has not violated anything nothing will happen to them.
It's alright to ask, just a reminder that once you get the information it is illegitimate content to stop talking about it further
So just... Report anything that doesn't look familiar? That seems horrible...
someone said to me I'm a jealous spoiled kid for reporting players in live who has the new emotes already. kinda hurts
I’m waiting for the chaos to erupt in #lore-discussion-spoilers
Otherwise bringing attention to issues like these in a server with over 160k people can cause a lot of trouble, so we clear conversations after it's been clarified
@fathom river
don’t mind them
I see.. thanks for the info Mirian
Fair enough, I'll keep that in mind
Is anyone experiencing strange plant issues in Wasteland?
Reporting feels like snitching... But I really love tgc and I feel like people can at the very least, be patient for new content, geez
Is anyone experiencing strange plant issues in Wasteland?
@small swift yea earlier today i was
hi hi hi does anyone know if the bug with season spirits giving regular hearts was 100% for certain fixed?? I really want the Anubis mask,,,
@small swift yea earlier today i was
@glossy roost Did the plants respawn and give wax after you burned them? That's been happening to me
That happened to me a few times in wasteland
ok so it's not just me then
I have a question for the sake of clarity, as i understand it, the change in TS we are testing is to lessen the grinding and yet the items that are locked behind the AP also cost candles and hearts?
@proven dragon I'm not sure about that
@proven dragon At the moment, yes we still need to grind. But this feature is under review by us now and this version is probably not the first idea.
Is there wax in the trials?
asked earlier but wasn't answered
Do all the trials have wax? Is it possible to tp out of them after collecting wax? (unless there's wax at the end of a trial???)
it do have but very little. was it .75? not sure
I think you can go home once you're in the trial, not sure if home shrine takes you back to the cave or not
Thank you and sorry, i was unsure because it was very confusing
It’s really sad that people can’t respect the hard work TGC put into each season. But just report them. It’s all we can do for now. 
The thing with getting the emotes ahead is this:
I feel like if I unlock the spirits ahead, it might ruin the experience for me.
Unlocking them while the cave is and barren and not yet ready ruins the experience because I don't get to see the memories for the first time in its full glory.
Taking advantage of glitch and unlock memories before season opening:
The cave is barren, there are missing structures (maybe), there's no adequate/ proper lighting, and my friends are not there, ||some guilty feelings that will stay with me whenever I see and/ or use the exploited emotes, maybe, but it's up to the player||
Unlock memories during the season:
Many players present, more friends can join me, the area would've had been more polished and ready to show me the memories in good lighting, ||no guilty feelings||
But that's just my opinion, and also, I'm not mad
You can go home anytime in the trials. The home shrine will get you back to your last checkpoint
Quick question is server merge thing that make you seperate from friends common in the trial?
Home’s return shrine will take you back to where you were in the trial, if you leave it.
also, I think the server disrupts cause people glitching and tgc doing some patchworks
However when home return shrine takes you back to last checkpoint, friends will not be able to TP to you from home
Yeah I was seeing so many people with emotes already which was not very appropriate to use them before the season, best to just wait the one hour before release
Unless yall use the shrine at the same moment if you were both in the trial before
i uh just realized why i couldn’t make this one jump in in the water trail.. i’m too short to not die 😔
huh? short = death?
being smol during trials is a true challenge,
i uh just realized why i couldn’t make this one jump in in the water trail.. i’m too short to not die 😔
@ionic spire you can do all trials as chibi lol
Hey chibi life is amazing
I got a resize and became slightly shorter than normal height 
@ionic spire you can do all trials as chibi lol
@strong canopy the only one i struggle on as chibi is water
I think there is definitely a difference between one and two-handed also.
What do u guys think if we can use sky sticker in ingame chat like

I think there is definitely a difference between one and two-handed also.
@hollow compass In the water one for example, yes. Two handed mode allows you to take a step back to start running and get momentum
I went through all the trials again, but I don't think I should do the trials of fire alone.
That's a lot of fun with friends.
I think the idea of making the Traveling spirit less grindy is a good one, currently about 50% of my candle run goes to TSs...
I also think puting half the items of the TSs behind a paywall is a huge step back from the current system, given that many players right now can enjoy past seasons even if they come from a poor background...
fire trial is my favorite because fluffy worms
huh? one handed? two handed? as in a friend in each hand?
What do u guys think if we can use sky sticker in ingame chat like
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@crude crystal I think they made emotes available to use? In 2019 they made a tweet, not sure if you can use them in the game chat '(
@strong canopy I realised that when I asked a child do the trial with two-handed mode and they had no issues. I am doomed. I’ll have to bribe them to do the trials for me.
@mortal forge one handed mode
I realised that when I asked a child do the trial with two-handed mode and they had no issues. I am doomed. I’ll have to bribe them to do the trials for me.
you can switch to two handed mode in settings
AH k nvm sorry just got it right, the different control methods my b
@ionic spire I honestly can’t play two-handed.
Hey guys, I'm just taking pictures to make my maps for the new season candle locations in live, I can't remember where the seasonal candles appear in Vault for prophecy though. It's the same as Sanctuary's candles, right?
@ionic spire I honestly can’t play two-handed.
that’s fair
two handed is ez kekw
Would someone be able to tell me where the candles appear in vault then? I just honestly can't remember where in vault since I haven't been working too hard for the cosmetics in beta
Even in DMs if you don't want to wait for the cooldown
Is it disadvantageous to be short after all?
hmmm. just have a very good parkour skills
Wow am I so excited for new seasonal to start in live when I’ve been beta testing for weeks guess because it’s that good 😌
Would someone be able to tell me where the candles appear in vault then? I just honestly can’t remember where in vault since I haven’t been working too hard for the cosmetics in beta
Even in DMs if you don’t want to wait for the cooldown
i don’t know if this is helpful but reset is in like i think 33 mins so you could check then ^^
Lmao live is going to crash
im gonna go to trial nxt week or on friday when everyone is chill. Ill just collect my seasonal candles in live. Anyways, ive ben to trials already a lot of time in Beta
wow chat is chilled, huh, noice v much I like
it's really nice and relaxing here lmao, live is just losing it. 
this stillness and relaxing atmosphere would pair nicely with some lo-fi chill beats, sitting on the windowsill while its gently raining outside, all cozied up, with a cup of hot tea
Im glad im in Beta lmao, visited the trials a lot of time already lmao.
Oh guys you should listen Spirits of the Sea or Umi no Yuurei the song is very relaxing @mortal forge
i'd do the trials as early as possible myself in live, so i won't be alone when i die over and over in them. better to suffer wih someone than alone.
👍
fire trial is my favorite because fluffy worms
@ionic spire can't wait to see this on live lmao, skykids being burnt by a hundred times
I'm also unable to get use to the two handed mode
what i did with water is waiting for the ice mattresses to turn until its closer to the shore.
@grave cloud I guess there is always going to be someone doing trials in live
Lmao like in Beta i love going to Trials its so easy for me now.
so i wont have problems to go solo in LIVE
Do you think a lantern will be useful in the new area?
I feel like the Wind Trial is my natural Habitat it's my favorite trial ever. 
y'all getting me even more hyped to see the trials
lmao wait i thought you were a beta tester too. 
you okay with the spoilers?
I wanna self proclaim myself im a trial expert but i would sound very selfishly confident and people might think im annoying. 🥺
Well there is a warning that spoilers lay here, so perhaps? 
lmao wait i thought you were a beta tester too.
you okay with the spoilers?
@grave cloud lol nah am not a beta tester, and yis am oke with spoilers. I get the excitement of new things, but I believe that learning about something that is to come helps more because you know what to expect and you get even more excited to try it for yourself.
I wanna self proclaim myself im a trial expert but i would sound very selfishly confident and people might think im annoying. 🥺
@uneven dust I mean isn't that the same as putting eden uber in your name?
Also, imagine how angy live ppl are gonna be once they do air and fire-
Neleno, my only tip for water trial is to chill when the current goes up and down slowly just perfectly time it. Listen to thr music Umi no Yuurei that song helped me in water trial as a chibi. But if you want your life easier don't be chibi, chibi is challenging in water trial @mortal forge 
@tender dew noooo
well you can actually touch the water when it's in the middle of lowing down
i can imagine people being confused watching beta testers just finish the trials all in one go.

anyone know where the brazier is at in isle?
@uneven dust I mean isn't that the same as putting eden uber in your name?
@potent heron but eden is different, trial is way more challenging than eden.
brazier?
yes, a brazier in isle,, tgc mentioned in their patch list or something
oop? neato
also trials being harder than eden? 
and how long are the trials?
there changed my name lmao. I don't care if people call me im so overly confident 
Ohoho first timers are always long. Water is probably the shortest (or arguably earth)
oh the brazier. its below the cliff the cave of prophecy is on i think. i thought it was a cauldron.
||You can't lose wings in trials||
anyone noticed which rock they moved to sanctuary?... I didn't notice at all
ahh!! okay thank you ))
I feel like the easiest trial is Earth.
Haha, it's always best to do trials with some friendos :)
@uneven dust I think the easiest is water
easiest is water me thinks. earth took me an hour+ and gave me nausea. 
I'ma just rest and watch people struggle a little
Have fun in fire trial
I haven't gotten to test out the warp block yet. Is it blocked in the trials?
@uneven dust I think the easiest is water
@quick tinsel i think all trials is easy at this point lmao.
i feel like the easiest is air imo
11:43, almost time
@uneven dust how can you do fire trial?.... I think is so hard I cannot even finish
Lolol just stand at the end and cheer on the poor impatient players :,) (the answer Sofi, is totally friends or many other players)
16 mins left 
listening to "See You at the Top" from A Short Hike, current vibe rn
@uneven dust how can you do fire trial?.... I think is so hard I cannot even finish
@quick tinsel you just need to time it and look at shadow creatures pattern and i memorized the map, and found some safe spots to avoid the dark creatures. I've been practicing a lot on the trials cause im bored.
barely got the preorder today because i was too preoccupied with trying to figure out why i was so bad at the water trial 
Preorder going bye bye in 15
i cant wait to surprise my friends with a pass, one of mine got scammed out of one so im definitely stoked
General sky discussion is
Chaos
And i thought that beta discussion is more chaotic
I was wrong
me too. I'm so excited to see my friend being happy
aa i should be sleeping it’s almost 3 am... but man i wanna get the spacebuns in live
Live is really gonna crash.
i cant wait to see people running in isle while i go get seasonal candles, i wanna buy first the pants and the bat purple cape.
spacebuns?
i havent been in general in months
wonder how its going in there
me too. pants is the priority here.
spacebuns?
@mortal forge you will seei like the korra hair too.
i love the fire prophet,, chonkers !!
I think the season could have benefited from one more week in beta, so we’ll see how it goes.
OMG EVERYONE THE NEW PANTS IS LIFE

I NEED THE PANTS 
Legit had no idea Prophecy was coming out so soon and was so confused when general chat was zooming
i havent been in general in months
wonder how its going in there
@oak berry right now it's chaos... Chat zooming so fast
i just saw
the pants look like an oddly chonky+blocky rhythm pant ngl 
i have a question? about the new rules in traveling spirit. does that mean when it comes to live version we need to avail the ad pass just to get the TS? what about the free to play players? isn't that unfair for them? there are kids playing who can't afford ad pass, etc.
General beta is so chill i love it here. 
Guys listen to Umi no Yuurei while you do water trial 
i think it’s just free for adv pass owners but i’m not sure
Can't wait for live folks to experience p a i n 
10 mins!!!
People are so excited and I'm here sitting like
Yeah new season
can't wait to hug my traumatized friends
Cant wait for my friends to suffer in the trials
Cant wait to laugh at my friends and wait for them while im already in the finish line
@mild panther im excited to lead people through everything- and i get to experience it twice!
@sullen oasis please dont hint to what it is! <3
When fire trial rolls out omg

all my friends i play with are asleep because we all around the same timezone
can’t wait 2 not help them and watch as they experience pain for themselves 
Can't wait to see how empty beta is when season goes live 
dismsisisisisiisisspirit
We can kidnaped a stranger we lit with piggyback spell
so the piggyback spell allows us to piggyback anyone regardless of their friendship tree and are they your friend or not
there are two types of beta players:
(1) those who help you in the trials
(2) those who watch you suffer from the finish line 
i thought i was in live chat njrkwgrughsrlgghi sad
im gonna chant dimissspirits 10 times watch emememememmeme
im the 2nd type 
live chat is going at warp speed rn
i thought i was in live chat njrkwgrughsrlgghi sad
@limber tusk live chat is more chaotic
i have a question? about the new rules in traveling spirit. does that mean when it comes to live version we need to avail the ad pass just to get the TS? what about the free to play players? isn't that unfair for them? there are kids playing who can't afford ad pass, etc.
@floral sand If you disagree with this decision, please leave your comments in beta feedback
BRUH
OH GOD i just ran back here- too fast too fast too fast
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I like how beta chat is chilling while live chat is breaking the sound barrier
there there, the beta players shall house you
The hype is there
Until people enter fire trial
@floral sand it’s not coming to live. It’s in beta for review right now.
Hello, i know you are all excited but reminders it is still beta chat. Please don’t spam too much.
i have a question? about the new rules in traveling spirit. does that mean when it comes to live version we need to avail the ad pass just to get the TS? what about the free to play players? isn't that unfair for them? there are kids playing who can't afford ad pass, etc.
@floral sand If you are worried about your friends because they don't want this change, ask them to show disagreement in beta feedback.
Please let's try not to break the servers at reset

I CAN’T EVEN READ A THING IN GEN CHAT LMAO
I think they're gonna break regardless
i cant keep up with general 
Please let's try not to break the servers at reset
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@desert lintel it's gonna happen anyway
im just gonna wait for 30 mins then go snatch them spirits 
@opal estuary you don’t need to reply twice to the same question.
jeez general is on fire rn, not in the good way
@desert lintel it's gonna happen anyway
@mild panther i know 😂
ahaha idk why but it's so funny watching chat zoom
🧯 i got the fire extinguisher just in case it catches on fire!!!
chaos is approaching.
@opal estuary you don’t need to reply twice to the same question.
@hollow compass I just wanted to be more clear about that, acknowledging your opinion anyway
Wait, isn’t it one hour more because of daylight saving?
chaos is approaching.
@fathom river its not just approaching, its here
Daylight saving in November
On my signal, unleash hell

wait, when the season comes out, are we allowed to talk about the season in live chat
its here boys
wait, when the season comes out, are we allowed to talk about the season in live chat
@small swift avoid spoilers
I'm gonna repost my low quality meme. Finally

happy new year!!!!
ok beta players time to flex our trial skills 
Sure, talk about it, but remember to be mindful of others this first week perhaps.
oh my god live chat exploding
it’s probably gonna crash sm LOLLL i will play later today instead 
I'll play afterwork. hehe.
I only waited for reset to gift my friend her pass so she didn't miss out, but time to sleep for me. I will play later. Have fun everyone!
Bruh their chat is on fireeee
oh the glowy glitch is in live????? or is it not a glitch??
winged light cosplay - limited edition cosmetic!!! /s
uh oh water trial death loops
Let’s keep Live chat out of here. 
If the glowy bug isn't a bug, then it explains why the champion in the murals look yellow/glowy?
man i can’t wait till live players see fire trial
beta is empty :(
Oml I'm crying the glowbug in live... We had the floor is lava, now in live they got our eyes are lava
I’m scared for peep’s sanity during fire trial
Buff moth takes all their friends though trials. At the same time.
im gonna be one busy guide
Dragon I’ll pray for your sanity too

man playing on betas gonna be so lonely 
is water trial that hard?
it was easy for me tho
I'm gonna play on live later 
Vanishing spirits and glow bug
people have the anubis mask already???
I thoughts vanishing spirits would be fixed once the caves are open to everyone
People pay, Lost
but.. you cant pay for candle packs in beta morue?
(nono lol, i wouldn’t have asked here)
Oh, i thought you meant live. Given the context
I think TGC rushed the season a bit... quite a few bugs in both beta and live right now 
How many candle bunches are there in trial of water
i love this glow bug! this is what the glow spell used to be like before it got a refresh hahaha
P. S. The live still haven't found out that there are candle bunches in trials
OH YEAH
IKR 
do you think it’s more convenient to do the trial first and then get the candles
Yea
The glow bug made it to live.. a
Wait there were candles in the water trial? Am I blind?
we become shiny bois in live ....no need for glow spell now😂😂😂
My home in live... so bright.
I heard of 2 candle spots in water but i only bothered to find one
WE CAN DO VALLEY MAZE WITH GLOW BUG OMG
Omg 😱 even though I wasn’t able to test how the deer 🦌 mask looked in beta it’s so beautiful on live the horns sparkle like glitter ✨ when you move after you get the glow from finishing first trial ❤️
@river hinge remember it’s the old glow spell, so it lights up your avatar but none of your surroundings 😂
Ooooh yeah 
I think TGC rushed the season a bit... quite a few bugs in both beta and live right now
@frigid stump Yeah, I'm confirming both shinybois and missing Spirit cutscenes.
Rip TGC staff... have to work on earth trial and stuff and now all these bugs
:( you can see they worked really hard to push it today BC they announced it only yersterday and there are a lot of beta bugs in the Live version
We would have been fine waiting... rip
This is why I was surprised when they went for the motd countdown to release Prophecy
Yes I noticed in end cut scene of spirits if you weren’t the original to start it you miss part of the beginning of the end cut scene when the spirit does their emote
Poor live kids... they have no clue what hell is about to be unleashed upon them
lol. They’ll have fun and roll with it
They still have a few weeks fixing other things and other trials on live
How many weeks for earth trial?
I only got the shinyboi bug and my couple got some bad respawns in trial of water, really nice beginning of season
Was anyone able to experience the drum in beta? What does it sound like?
Like the forest one if I'm not wrong. I didn't notice anything different
It's just looking epic
reskin lol
I thought the glow was to show you completely a trial
Is the shiny effect will gone if i restart the game after a trail?
#beta-screenshots-videos message
comparison of base game drum vs prophecy ult gift drum, by skaikidneon
@orchid crest
:( you can see they worked really hard to push it today BC they announced it only yersterday and there are a lot of beta bugs in the Live version
@strong canopy Yeah; I don't doubt they worked hard, but they should have delayed. This needed more time. Most of these bugs had been known for days before the push.
Is the shiny effect will gone if i restart the game after a trail?
@ornate marlin yes it will disappear after restarting
did anyone hug the not so shiny boi at the end of stormlock while being really shiny for the bug or the boi get jealous? 
Fire boy is home at last
me just trying to swim:
the water: 
The water near the floating ice is safe to swim but just for a sec👀
Have you all looked in the lore channel?
I want to tell em things but can’t
I havent and im scared to do so
The full story behind Season of Prophecy seems won’t be shown until Fire Trial it seems...
That’s when the lore stuff gets very interesting...
lore channel impodes over prophecy 4, electric boogaloo
Lol
It’s not really imploding rn
Actually so we even know what the prophecy even is?
It’s late
.__.
The prophecy??! don't trust what the Elders say!!
skybot what
Did a dev just literally poke the community?
I think it will implode when shiny boi appears on murals-
My belief is that the Prophecy was actually related to someone else, not us. One of the biggest topics of the lore chat is about the monarch of Sky, which is the Prince/King.
The Prince just so happens to look almost exactly like a Sky Kid...
Sky bot..are you drunk buddy?
We know very little about him , hell we have never seen his 3D model, sadly can’t even talk about, you know
know what? 
wait if you finish any of the 3 first trials then go in the fire one, do you see better 👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️👁️
The prophecy??! don’t trust what the Elders say!!
@gilded parrot
Hmmm wonder how true that is
Morue I tried that 2 days ago and I uploaded the video now in #beta-screenshots-videos I saw I didn't see more and I gave up 
my friends feedback
35% struggle
65% laughing the whole time seeing others die
my friend slid right into the water 
I do trial in a few minutes..i saw someone behind me struggle so hard...
I’m dying about how all the sky kids are still glowing after the water trial, my eyes hurt lol
its the shiny bois running from us
It’s pretty overwhelming tbh. Tried doing cr as shiny kid and my eyes just gave out
Sky: beCOME THE LIGHT
Sky: blind kids unite
hopefully this gets fixed soon
The water near the floating ice is safe to swim but just for a sec👀
@mighty estuary When the water is going down, yes. I reported it weeks ago, but they haven't done anything about it, so I think it may be considered legit.
I just want to collect all the shinybois
unfortunately some are are running away from me 
Only two people per trials right? When you come with friends?
nope! i think theres a cap of eight
Only two people per trials right? When you come with friends?
@spark lance Nah, you can go with lots of people.
I ubered someone through water trial in live earlier today and I’m really proud of myself
Reminder to keep Live chatter to the Live channel!

Anyone know if they fixed the PowerVR GPU issue? 
They didn’t add the water glyph to the trial’s checkpoints 😭
this place is gonna be real quiet now
this place is gonna be real quiet now
the prophecy became true
The cycle of every beta
I’m just enjoying lore discussion channel right now XD their deductions are soo good
just wait till we unlock all the murals 
Nah, just wait till we start testing Sky II 
Sky 2??
what would sky II's story even be? its technically a cycle
Question, when is days of mischief supposed to come?
Oooh yeah forgot about that
@cedar latch I think it just ended.
Oh, it’s still on? I haven’t checked.
it hasnt started in live yet but i bet around the weeks of halloween
Oh okay, I thought it was going to be on during all of October, thank u
Also sorry, I wasn’t completely sure since it seemed more of a beta realm question ÓwÒ
If you’re asking about Live stuff, please use #questions-and-help or read the patch notes in #news
It starts 22nd in Live.
Why would it be a beta question? We’re not in charge of release dates.
I’m still new to this server, I apologize since I’m still trying to learn the General rules and seeing if any beta stuff is asked in the ask channel I was afraid to get muted.
I apologize for the misunderstanding but I will keep that in mind for next time
A good rule of thumb is to read the #news for any official release dates. Beta is just a testing ground for various new features. We’re all basically regular players and have no insight in TGC’s business plans. 
dw, its not a big deal
If beta reports bugs and we still see them in live, why aren’t they listed as known issues?
Beta player is a lab rat..me also a lab rat
Which spirits aren't showing up for you anyway? Android? 
Some things just take longer to fix. And maybe they don’t want to start out a new season with “Hey, here are all the bugs!” 
Yo feedback for the season goes into live now right
I want the cutscene to be skippable smh
Yeah... but if u don’t mention obvious bugs... sooooooo many people gotta waste time reliving them. Kinda irresponsible.
Which spirits?
What cut scene? The very first one? I don’t think that’s ever been possible. You need to watch all cut scenes once before being able to skip them.
Why would you want the cutscene to be skippable in live? Just because you saw it in beta?
Wait wait wait, was the word "tied behind" in the line "Only the items that were tied behind the Season of Belonging Adventure" mean the season of Grattitude, Lightseeker and Belonging?
Thank you, there are so many players have misunderstood about this problem. They had became so much dissappointed with wrong stranlated way

when you spend ur own money on ur own decision to complete the season bcs ur a busy adult who can't play daily and people keep reporting you for having the ultimates bcs "its impossible" 
Vy, unfortunately the announcement spread beyond the beta channels and caused a lot of confusion. It is just a suggestion under review so far.
@spark lance you can’t buy candle packs in beta, though. 🤔
Vy, unfortunately the announcement spread beyond the beta channels and caused a lot of confusion. It is just a suggestion under review so far.
@spark lance you can’t buy candle packs in beta, though. 🤔
@hollow compass ma'am i am in live.

Why are you writing that in a beta channel, then, sir? 😉
who are you, the server police lmao im just talking bcs i have friends in here and general chat were saying i was hacking + too fast to be replied to
Lol, it’s just that it gets confusing when people bring up Live stuff here and this isn’t really a general chat channel. It’s meant for beta specific discussion. Not sure why posting that here was necessary, that’s all. 
bro so many new bugs w the new season that didn’t happen in beta
the nice shiny boi light, invisiblity in sanctuary
This channel is only for beta version, I believe. And would be good if (as you claim that you're on live) your complain would be put to #general-sky-discussion as more people may give a sentiment t'wards your concern.
Can't wait for thr fire trial to be out on live hahahha it will be equivalent to a 2hr candle run for me F
I think it still could definitely be adjusted
Question for the beta players! Do we only have to do the trials once? And after we finish them, are we allowed to do them again?
Yeah. I think people are confused about the mask because you (currently) really do have to hack to get it in Beta. But Beta is different from Live: you can buy candles in Live, and that makes the mask possible. Would it be appropriate to say this in the Live chat, as an explanation for why people shouldn't report mask-havers in Live?
I’m sorry if some of us appear a bit boring with trying to redirect questions to other channels. It’s for the best, so that it doesn’t get confusing, especially now that a new season creates so much activity.

Ppl were really happy about the Water Trial because it was somewhat challenging but not out-right suffering-
Ohhh boy, if the rest of the trials stay the way they are, I'm kinda worried about their reactions-
Yeah. I think people are confused about the mask because you (currently) really do have to hack to get it in Beta. But Beta is different from Live: you can buy candles in Live, and that makes the mask possible. Would it be appropriate to say this in the Live chat, as an explanation for why people shouldn't report mask-havers in Live?
@grave jetty oh someone else and I already did but there were some new players who didnt understand how seasons worked and said theyd report anyways, so i came here because beta players understand and i wasnt being responded to bcs of the high traffic
im also in beta but i only play to report bugs, not for items
On 6 days it will be one of the hardest trial when the season first came out here: Earth
I think the trials are gonna be polished tho before it gets released. Especially Earth sinces that's up next-
Edit: It is next... right?
@spark lance I’m sure TGC can see the difference in a purchase and hacked items, even if you are reported. Don’t worry.
to @spark lance
@spark lance I’m sure TGC can see the difference in a purchase and hacked items, even if you are reported. Don’t worry.
@hollow compass This. TGC knows what's up; you'll be cleared of any wrongdoing.
thanks, i was getting a bit concerned lmao ❤️
You’ll be absolutely fine, Tobi! Enjoy your new cosmetics! 
Love the new "jesus" glitch. time to go to the valley maze lol
oh wow, going back to the live rates of earning seasonal candles takes some getting used to once you've become accustomed to the beta rates for a while 
There could be a possible legit reason as to why they cannot hop on to maps. They could just be in a death loop in Eden.. @kindred bluff
or they did the capeless glitch thing.
To assume and declare that someone got Beta from an unofficial discord branch to other topics that we are discouraged from discussing in this server.
@spark lance true, dont worry i didnt report them or anything ive just seen so many players that looked like them that came on and immediately try to friend me that i assumed they were part of the clone army of unofficial source beta players
(plus if you were in eden you would have progressed some degree into the game to get new cosmetics for yourself right?)
((same with the capeless thing, i mean i would rather do it in live with my cosmetics and friends lol)
When I go to Eden, sometimes I dress up as a moth myself. We don't know.. Maybe that guy is a vet 
Or maybe they just got in beta because google finally let them in 
hello! can someone explain the current traveling spirit controversy, I didn't understand it at all. Thanks ^_^
Yeah. that too @silver willow
There is no controversy @torn spindle
TGC announced and released an update in beta, which is a normal thing.
Updates arrive every now and then for us to test in advance so that TGC can polish and modify it before (and only if) it goes to live.
We get to discuss them here to brainstorm, and then share our feedback if we have any.
Oftentimes the newest update get to be in the hot seat, which was the case for the "Season of Belonging Spirit's items that were originally AP-locked in their original season be AP-locked as TS items too" update. Further information is available in #beta-announcements
@spark lance Thank you for letting me know :)
Does the daily candle not appear directly in front of you? Or am I the only one?
@spark lance that was so nicely put! 
Guys, there is a problem, why don't you show me the introduction? Directly enter the season
@upper sun not sure what you mean. What do you want us to show you?
The daily candle that appears in front of you every new day
When did you last pick it up?
For our beta friends who are lurking in general-sky-discussion, please don't spoil the rest of the trials! I know it's fun to go "ohoho just wait until you see x trial" but it's better to let people gauge their reactions for themselves.
Difficulty is a matter of opinion, so there's no need to make people scared of future trials or discourage them from completing it all. Some people will find the Water trial more difficult than Earth, etc. Just like in our discussions here, people will differ in which Trial they think is easiest.
So just let them enjoy the new season and figure it out themselves! People who want to be spoiled have plenty of videos to look at on Youtube. The people who still don't know anything are probably trying to avoid spoilers, especially because they could have always checked out the beta channels, so let's respect that wish. 
plus, everyone knows fire trial is the hardest 😆
i personally to water is the best
so funn
I even finished the earth trial in 45 minutes. the last part is very difficult and annoying for me . i'm not good at parkour 
I want to try a time attack.
My friend cried in water trial. She wants her cape back
fire trial ez lol git gud 💯
I'm still can't pass air trial solo again aaaaaaa
Actually all the trials are easy for but the air one was a little bit difficult and yesterday i made a challenge with my friend to complete the air trial without dying for 10 times and i won 😆
Lmao i was in the water trial server with 3 people they were struggling so i helped them in the water trial. 
Where is the place where the season thing is in dunes?
isle
The shift from 1.5 candles in one candle spawn to 0.25 candles per candle spawn 
so if trial uber is gonna be a thing and I just dont know how it can be possible for someone to uber another person through fire trial
sheer willpower and determination
i might do that
Is beta version always on? I though it would stop when season starts? Maybe not?
beta is on 24/7, we just have most events and seasons weeks before
Beta doesn’t stop just because the season goes live. There’s still lots of stuff to test, as well as possible tweaks for the season.
This felt like a emailing group chat
Can we talk about the other 3 trials on live or is it still beta content
Is beta version always on? I though it would stop when season starts? Maybe not?
@lethal zinc It's still on. We know there are bugs that need fixing, and those fixes will need to be tested. There may be more to the Season that we haven't seen yet, which will also need testing before it goes live (that's not guaranteed, but it's been common in past Seasons). There may even be other events to test, or there might not. None of this is guaranteed (except bugfixes; the one constant in software QA is that there are always moar bugfixes), but our job's not done.
Sana, not yet. Only water trial is available for Live so far.
I wanna talk about the funny cloud 
I was so confused when i couldn’t do the earth trial in live, then realized that I wasn’t in beta 
I think they also need to tweak the other trials too. Only one was released rn
Yeah, as a first-time beta player myself, I do have a question for the older players: how do you keep track of what you've done in Live vs. Beta in a given day?
I hope they do polish and change the other trials up and a bit. Or else I’ll cry for all the people who were so happy about how challenging yet easy the Water Trial was...
Xehrebec, What exactly do you mean by that?
They may end up having a lot of complaints about this Season if it’s too hard-
Xehrebec, What exactly do you mean by that?
@tranquil mortar I keep running into situations where I think I've done, say, Valley runs in Live, when in fact I'd done them in Beta instead. It's not really an issue unless I hit both Beta and Live heavily in the same day, but that's becoming more frequent.
Ah, you mean not having time for candle-runs?
I'm in the beta for android, faq site says I'm a tester, but I haven't received updates nor can I download the beta app
Yeah, as a first-time beta player myself, I do have a question for the older players: how do you keep track of what you've done in Live vs. Beta in a given day?
@grave jetty I choose to play one before another
Usually beta when there is not much to test. I do my quests and go. Then the rest is live
Ah, you mean not having time for candle-runs?
@tranquil mortar Nah, I've got time, I just need to better remember what I've actually done in each environment to minize repeats.
Nvm I didn't do the things I'm an idiot
You can write it down!
Yea they want you to create a spreadsheet
So live chat just got a thatskybot quote "I haven't been this scared since my creator got stuck in someone's basement". Given that a certain large invertebrate is currently stuck OOB underneath the Office, is thatskybot implying that it was created by Toilet Krill?
(new headcanon for me, at any rate)
What if shiny bug isn’t a bug but a feature 🙈
@grave jetty speaking of toilet krill, it’s in live, but the krill can’t be activated (it’s under the ground XD)
Yep. I checked when I heard thatskybot say that. The trigger isn't there, and the big TK is completely inert (its eye isn't even lit), but it IS technically present.
It's hibernating
Friend trying to carry me through the earth trial and seriously this is like a challenge constructed from my nightmares. Only thing that could make it worse would be an enemy chasing me.
Some white dust bunny into the earth trial?

giant enemy spider
When half of the live response to this new season is "cosmetics ugly, bad season" 
ikr i love this season

Then again, I was not a fan of sanctuary’s cosmetics at all. Different preferences 
I still find it inherently annoying that they're acting like cosmetics that don't suit their preferences are going to kill the game/are the end of the world
@grave jetty late reply, but I make sure to wear different outfits in beta and Live. I rely a lot of pictorial memory as well as pattern recognition, so I remember things that way and also often stick to a certain routine.
:/
for me this is the best season lol
in all aspects
Hey guys, with the new TS system do we get a TS every week? I saw some people talking about it yesterday but I’m not sure, thanks guys!

Well ... not in all because i wanted my dreadlock hair for free, but ok
for me this is the best season lol
in all aspects
@real mica
The only thing I don't like is the Earth's prophet cape color 
Does anyone know the full seasonal candles cost to buy everything in the season of prophecy
I just wish they would have sacrificed one of the emotes for a new stance 
Good morning 
@stray imp thats hacked unfortunately
@stray imp yup it's most probably hacked
Does anyone know the full seasonal candles cost to buy everything in the season of prophecy
@tall leaf 330 in total 😳
The voice of @glossy roost is a whisper that echoes through the ages. May we meet again in the Eye of Eden!
"That's hacked" vs "Christmas"
On the way to report 🙏, thank you all 
@tall leaf 330 in total 😳
@glossy roost wowwwww 😱😱😱
Nope! We only got a santa hat last year
Oh no I'm not saying it couldn't be, I'm just saying the comparison is amusing
Hi giccix 
Alright, I'm off to play sky. Happy testing!
Oh oops! I figured it out myself 
I'll delete it
I missed here... Live chaotic
Do you guys think this is fair for the feedback section?
Could you genuinely reconsider the new TS idea? If anything, if most players are purchasing candle packs to complete the TS then haven’t the majority paid enough?
Buying candles on top of a pass, just to possibly get a TS we want is a little inconsiderate. There are only 26 TS a year and in this 26 there’s only a 1/25 chance we’ll get what we want? Having to pay £10 every 2 months for this chance is a bit harsh to new and old players don’t you think? I really hate to be so blunt, I hope this doesn’t come off as rude- I’m just a little upset at this decision, especially for players like me who love Prophecy, don’t get me wrong, I’m so excited for all my friend who love the Anubis mask, but I don’t think any of the cosmetics suit my Sky ‘style’ so I didn’t want to buy it, if I HAVE to buy it in order to get the full potential of a TS I’m excited for them this is rather crushing?
Poll:
fair!
Not fair
Thanks guys!
i do not see u_u
Dang
@flat shadow dont worry about what anyone else thinks about your feedback
it's ok to send it in!
@flat shadow dont worry about what anyone else thinks about your feedback
it's ok to send it in!
@empty river thank you! I just didn’t know if it sounds fair or too harsh?I will send it in how tho!
You're being respectful. In this way, your feedback does matter
Thanks you guys

forest i completely agree
I just got the best video
Also! Not for feedback, I’ve already sent it heheh, but what do you guys think about this:
Ultimate reward spirits are added to the TS pool, but they are the only spirits that require the AP?

So, no TS require an AP, EXCEPT the ultimate rewards? 
Ok I’m not beta, but can I ask a question that’s beta related?
Ok I’m not beta, but can I ask a question that’s beta related?
@spice moss sure!
Are there only 5 spirits in total in the new season and that you may be able to receive the ultimate gifts already in beta ?
I don’t think it’s possible to get the final mask quite yet, but some people were lucky and got more candles from their pre-order, so I’m not 100% sure. Why do you ask? @spice moss
@hollow compass oh I asked since in previous seasons there’s a total of 6 spirits instead of 5, if I’m not mistaking
It’s... basically impossible rn.
There is not enough days out where you can get enough to get all of the cosmetics.
If you see someone with the final mask they are a [forbidden word]
I see. Yes, there are only 4 spirits this time, but probably as many items/nodes to unlock. That’s why it’s takin about as long as for 6.
I see, I was also questioning whether or not can you just buy your way to the ultimate gifts. Thanks guys
No, you can’t buy candles in beta like you can in Live. But we get 11 candles each day from the quests/wax, so season is sped up for testing.
it is possible in live, they can just buy enough seasonal candles. But in beta, NO, not yet
wind trial is harder than before
why🥺
I don’t think it’s possible to get the final mask quite yet, but some people were lucky and got more candles from their pre-order, so I’m not 100% sure. Why do you ask? @spice moss
@hollow compass It's not possible in Beta yet. Live is another matter -it's expensive, but doable- but we're still at the stage where anyone with the mask in Beta is a hacker.
Thanks for confirming. 
Your pfp was my first crush @hollow compass
Awwww. Waiting for him to come back! Not long now. @little hound
Awwww yes... My fellow brothers and sisters🥳
How many days is left till the end of season in beta?
41 days left but that could change since is beta
Ugh why is rocketing allowed in the trials lol
How much seasonal candles you could get daily in beta? 11?
Ahhh so sad I have to uninstall sky beta because of no space
Guys.. ultimate gift mask colour is black or red?
it looks like more of a grayish/cool black
both. It changes according to the color of the cape.
Ohh 
I saw 2 people wearing it, one is greyish/black, another one is red
if you saw it in beta it's good to report them, in live idk
It on beta..not live..
please report, only hacker can get it. From the candle count so far it is impossible
Ight i will report that kid
*just a reminder ppl in live can just buy candles so it is possible for them, in beta NOPE
It changes color specifically with the belonging capes, actually so does the spider mask
I want the drum 😭, Google gave me late access
I can't imagine having either the money or lack of self control used to buy enough seasonal candles to complete the season
Some people do it cause they know they’re gonna be busy the rest of the season and they have the money, this way they don’t need to worry and can just use sky to chill out, it’s not a lack of self control
In my case it would be a lack of self control lol, wasn't trying to imply that was the case for everybody
I would find it difficult to motivate spending that much money on a game, but I also don't have unlimited amounts lying around. 
Right now, though, I'm having the hardest time deciding what to do with 30 seasonal candles in beta.
Try to bargain with the spirits and see how far you can go
I decided to finish Spirit of Earth, so that I only have the seasonal hearts and Fire left.
I just go straight for the spirit thats last cosmetic interests me the most, that way if anything happens and I can't finish the season I'll at least have that cosmetic
Yes, I tend to do that too and funnily enough, the fire boi never really interested me.
I usually do the spirits with the most stuff first, so then I can breeze through the cheaper ones towards the end. Not sure that’ll work this season though.
I feel like it was more stressful buying the pass than not... cause now I feel like I have to do the quests ;-; I’m just gonna try to finish constellations as soon as possible
Ohh
I saw 2 people wearing it, one is greyish/black, another one is red
@stark cloud did they wear the belongings red cape? Because there is a bug where this cape makes the mask look red
When I bought the pass the first time I spent around 10 minutes calculating to see if I could finish the season before it ended
When I bought the pass the first time I spent around 10 minutes calculating to see if I could finish the season before it ended
@woeful harbor actually you can save up to 100 candles
I kind of think you have to buy the pass, though, for testing purposes.
@strong canopy that red one, that kid wearing fluffy red cape..
@stark cloud that's a hacked item.
Beta was an experience for me because I'm used to 20 people opening all of the 2 player doors before I can get there and I rarely even stumble upon a person at all in beta
No worries..i already reported that kid..and yeah, i little bit confused never saw that red fluffy cape
Cause it’s a total of 330 candles... with 6 candles everyday with the pass you get 420... it’s not bad that’s a pretty good buffer, you can miss at most 2 weeks and still be good
Buttt I’m still nervous hhaha
I often find that I want to finish the season in Live as soon as possible, because by that time I am so tired from testing it in beta.
plus the initial 20-30 is 440-450
True... but yea defenitely don’t want to not finish it haha :’D
You know where I feel the most...sad or melancholy in beta? In Prairie caves, because before the ceiling was blocked out, you would always hear people practising music there or just hanging out on top because it was kind of awesome. Now it's just a place people pass through for some wax.
But coming to the calculations, it’ll take us 50 days if we get all 6 candles everyday to finish up all the constellations
Does anyone have an image of all the prices of the spirits of prophecy? I really need it rn, thanks in advance!
It’s on the official sky wiki
https://sky-children-of-the-light.fandom.com/wiki/Season_of_Prophecy
Wah, so expensive,, time to get to candle grinding!
the prairie cave ceiling was blocked ???
Yes, a long time ago now. But you used to be able to fly up through the holes.
O h, ok I thought they blocked the whole place,
You can still get up there the long way, I was just there yesterday ?
Oh no you can still go there, not from the holes that's all
Oh, yes, that roundabout way is still fine. But it's emptier now, I find.
I was doing the bench quest in live and somebody sat next to me and said "Are you beta" and when I responded they said "My friends are trapped in the water trial can you save them"
thats so sweet of them to say it like that thou
Just wait until fire
why yes, i am beta
Beta tester
It's a bit like telling someone you're from, say, NYC and them going "Oh, I know an Eric in NYC. Do you know him too?" 
But also adorable. I hope the friend found a way out eventually.
It's a bit like telling someone you're from, say, NYC and them going "Oh, I know an Eric in NYC. Do you know him too?"
But also adorable. I hope the friend found a way out eventually.
Same thoughts! But I am curious now... I hope their friend are fine 🙂
I needed to go to classes so unfortunately I couldn't help but I accepted their request because they were afraid of the same thing happening once the other trials came out
Aw that’s cute
I hope they passed water trial eventually
Finally I get to change my username

I hope you guys are going to help these poor helpless sky kids through the fire trial
all android folks managed to get it by now right? 
lmaoo that typo omg
I was so confused! Shroud people...what did I miss...? 😮
They have no idea what's in store for them, earth trial platforming is like dancing on dark plants

i went with a small group of non beta people to lead them through. unfortunately, we had a random person merge servers with us who went ahead and lit all the lanterns 
I went with someone who was probably beta who had the
hair and was pretty tall but still kept falling into the water
(hey owl hair/bowtie/earmuffs/no mask/rhythm pants/crab call if you met a tiny crab walk hat/backflip mask/cargo pants/whale call kid hmu that was me)
sounds like a mood
When I first went in live after we started going on the rafts a bunch of people who were following me stared at me from behind going all "what"
Sometimes ya just gotta flex on people with your amazing trial talents✨
A mood or a mod?
They might have just been an old player.
They probably thought it was going to be pillars the entire way through and weren't expecting me to jump on a chunk of ice and actually float
It was a pretty generic veteran looking player, we got sniped by the shiny boi cosplay bug so i couldnt see what else they had on after the trial but i saw the belonging guitar too 
I will flex on people with my amazing non-existing trial skills. So that they can feel better about themselves. I'm generous that way.
Imagine a piggyback tower in the fire trial
Someone has actually done that before ! I think it was one of the kais
Of course it would have been
My friends are calling me the "Lesser guide" for prophecy since I've been so enthusiastic about this season and have been helping them and giving them tips (This is their first season so they don't know how to do candle quests and where to get seasonal candles and junk)
I was wondering if anubis mask is able to be got in beta yet?
wait nvm i thought this is lore channel 
I'm not sure if people can afford the mask yet but I believe it's possible now since the fire prophet has arrived
skybot now prophetbot 2.0!
Brophet
What is up with skybot? 
Ok, i saw a group of people with anubis masks and the fur gratitude cape in prairie 😬
Skybot's going crazy because of all the feedback messages that need to be delivered, don't mind them.
Mentaroon i did piggy back tower too its ridiculous
Does the tower not go out of range?
Not really 😃 i uploaded my favourite video into #beta-screenshots-videos
Not from the recent build tho, i don’t have vids about that, but its almost the same.
I'm not sure if people can afford the mask yet but I believe it's possible now since the fire prophet has arrived
@woeful harbor I think people are still at least a week or so away from the mask.
Dang I'm surprised it doesn't but I'm also kind of glad because funny piggyback
im pretty sure you can get everything from this season if youre willing to buy the candles
edit: i meant live sorry
You can, but I don't think we can buy candles in beta
We can't . We have to play the game to earn candles in beta
what the heck the piggyback tower is too OP 
guess I'll have to try that next time i go FIRE 
Can anyone invite a new player to beta? If so is there anyone who would do that for me please? 🙂
please check #beta-signup-info and #beta-faq , all the beta invites are closed
like a third party app? it's entirely against sky TOS, for both beta and live
Like, first of all what plug in, like a translator? or rr
you don't need translator plug in for beta anyways...
When in doubt its probably illegal
yikes... All CN players I met feel like it is totally ok to use it, please please please do not do it... Once again feel ashamed for fellow CN players 
just don't listen to them plz
I am a Chinese, I am also very confused 😂
It is not allowed, please do NOT do it
please report anyone using a plugin buying candles, it is so frustrating to see people came in beta and think this is ok to hack...
I follow up on quite a bit of the JP sky community and most of them are of the opinion that it’s ok to do that in beta but not in live, which is why I knew about it cause they were angry that people were doing it in live a few days ago when people were glitching into the new area
Guys,,,, it’s just wrong everywhere, not just live,,
it is literally listed in TOS
I already gave up on convincing ppl this is not right
anyways.. Let's move on from this topic.
Ubering your friends in live is just ezzzzz laughs in beta speedrunner 
without spoiling things, can ppl tell me how much harder the three remaining trials get?
ok, how bad is the last trial on a scale of
to
x10
@chrome halo has what it takes to pass these trials 
aww, thanks skybot
without spoiling things, can ppl tell me how much harder the three remaining trials get?
@chrome halo earth was the hardest for me (the one coming next week), fire and air were similar to water in terms of difficulty. For me, air was the easiest one, but this depends a lot on the person and the way you are
Don’t stop believing!
I’m not that smart for earth 😭😭
It really depends on the person. For example, since the water trial is technically a test of patience, those who don't (or don't have much experience with the trial) would probably not do that well. It is all doable though.
we have many trials ahead of us
uh oh smarts 
i think fire was the hardest, mostly because of not really being able to see, and water was the easiest bc once you know what you need to do you can just speed run it
for me at least
tbh water is really easy so im excitedly waiting for the difficulty to RIIIIIISeeee when the next trial comes out
It really depends on the person. For example, since the water trial is technically a test of patience, those who don’t (or don’t have much experience with the trial) would probably not do that well.
@past abyss exactly
Four new maps hype tho, I hope they stay after the season ends
without spoiling anything, the last trial is noticibly easier now than it was before,
so uh, kee p that in mind
when doing that last trial
Eyesight problems + fire trial don’t go well together (I can tell from experience, go with friends)
wait you can do trials with multiple people at once?
Four new maps hype tho, I hope they stay after the season ends
@chrome halo they will stay 😉😉
also what's up with this massive slowmode 
Wait, whats the length of the slowmode? One minute?? Massive slowdown???? Did you mean short 
also what’s up with this massive slowmode
@chrome halo it’s a lot i know 😭😭😭
at least it isn't 15 minutes.
at least it isn't 15 minutes.
@copper bison wh-
I remember it being 10 minutes once...😳 when the season began
be thankful its only a minute,
this is about as good as we're gonna get
1 minute is being generous 
i think at one point it might of been 30 minutes, but i do remember for sure 15 minutes.
Then it stayed 5 minutes for a few days lolloll
It was at 10 for at least a week at one point
Ok see ya, I gotta go before the mods find me 
No new stuff to test = beta chat inactive
Makes sense
the screenshots slowmode was 5 minutes up until last week or so
beta chat is chill until a major update is added..
||War flashbacks to when the TS System update was announced...
So many people were arguing that day||
beta chat is chill until a major update is added..
||War flashbacks to when the TS System update was announced...So many people were arguing that day||
@eager ferry || oh yeah I remember that... people’s rage lasted for more than twelve full hours||
Days even...
Luckily everything has calmed down now... for now 
Ktjn clone reporting for duty! 
thats until you delete messages in #contact-the-mods and dont actually send it to them... sKYBOT. 
anyone knows how the manta spell works in fact? i thought it made mantas spin but didnt work in sanctuary
bugs maybe... they didn't spin for me either
Im so half everything calmed down too
probably because prophecy is live now so people focused on live game
I’ve only tried the crab and jelly spell. Was trying to think of a place with lot of mantas to test it but I forgot and haven’t done it so far.
I forgot to try the jelly spell. What does it do? I really liked the crab spell and now almost regret not getting that pin, even though I didn't like it that much.
Missed the TS update discussion... A quick recap? 
My earth cape top star is spinning... Anyone elses... ? Ill report it 🤍
Anyways ... Night night 😘
It make all the nearby jellies spin for liek...3 seconds. Everytime I deep call they would spin again and call back but I wasn’t sure if they usually do that too or that was the spell effect.
when the cutscene was playing in the game last night, I was half thinking the game would crash and I’d be playinghot lava again hahaha
My earth cape top star is spinning... Anyone elses... ? Ill report it 🤍
@desert mango mine is fine!!
Nvm they didn’t even spin #beta-screenshots-videos message
when the cutscene was playing in the game last night, I was half thinking the game would crash and I’d be playinghot lava again hahaha
@rain delta hahahahah good ol beta memories
feels so weird no seasonal_intro_518
I think I'm friends with too many people in beta XD sitting here waiting for sit at a bench with a stranger quest and 5 friends have passed but no strangers 🤣
the pain of having too much friends???
Kai, that's because the servers are set to favour friends merging into your instance.
Sever split: cough cough
that's true. but also I just really need this quest 
@quaint onyx it's in #beta-announcements
The start of the season in live is so buggy. I thought I was playing beta.
lmao sorry to change the subject but does anyone remember the prices for the halloween event cosmetics?
The hat is $9.99
The cape is $14.99.
Can't remember the Spooky Bat Cape and Pumpkin Hair pack.
oh cool thanks! do you happen to know the prices for the returning ones too?
And spooky cape 17.99
Pumpkin hat 11.99
Catch up pack (cape and pumpkin) 29.99
@safe ridge I guess today was their deadline
I got the quest
going into afk (when your avatar sits because you haven't moved in so long) got strangers merging with me
It's 1min1sec tho lol where does that 1sec come from
gotta have prime numbers 
Tbh I would rather have it pushed back then having it come out with so many bugs T^T and many of these bugs where identified inside beta...
I was expecting the season will end first in beta before going live.
Nah, it never does that. We keep testing and tweaking until it's time for a new season.
oml the chunky pants look so good
The second time i relived the memories they were fine... Which also happened in beta to me .. So that bug made it through and i reported it ... It shows how difficult it is for them to get through them all and hard some bugs are to fix.....
Also after doing beta i appreciated live more... Its like i cared more about everything...even the worry of people doing you know what in live ..., anyways ... I really enjoying being a beta tester.,, night night everyone 🤍
I forgot the season went live today and then I tried to do all the questgiver tasks and get those 6 sweet candles from the candle bunches but then I remembered live is not as accelerated as beta
lmao embarrassing
I meant more so the reaction 
It's kinda sad and disappointing that there were no cutscenes when you relive the spirits. I only saw one memory from the Prophet of Water.
Beta is extremely fun and rewarding, the habit of catching bugs really stuck on me 🤣 the best part is being able to see how the season was developed and transformed.
Yup only cut scene I saw was the fire boi’s
It's kinda sad and disappointing that there were no cutscenes when you relive the spirits. I only saw one memory from the Prophet of Water.
@safe ridge That's a known bug. It doesn't happen to everyone, but it got me too. Please report if you see it in Live.
You do learn to appreciate everything that goes into making the seasons more.
I got the cut scenes in Live, but never in beta.
Relive memories of spirits and cutscenes show...did for me.. Same bug i had in beta
I got all the cutscenes in beta, but me and my friends in live don't. Oh well.
It’s really weird they haven’t fixed the bug yet where the 8 player puzzle music replaces the prophecy cave music after completing a trial
It didn’t show in beta... but I guess watching them them for the first time in live was quite alright with me
I got all the cutscenes in beta, but me and my friends in live don't. Oh well.
@safe ridge Going back through and reliving them again does work for some people, but it's still not universal.
Yeah i could only see water spirits cutscene in beta, but in live i got to see all
Thankfully we can relive spirits now 
@safe ridge Going back through and reliving them again does work for some people, but it's still not universal.
@grave jetty Yes. But c'mon, who relives a spirit if you don't really need to relive it? The first time always matters.
I do.. Lol.. I love to watch them, i also sit with them and become one of the class
i do, the soundtrack is amazing 
Me too! I also like to relive them before the season ends, as a last goodbye 
Yep yep omg the sountrack .... Amazing ... So so amazing ...the earth escpecially
The only music that I really love is the Butterfly Spirit in Prairie. 🤭
Lore fans also like to relive to look at the memories and try and decipher the stories 🔍
+1 to earth spirits song..I think it rivals butterfly spirits music for me too! i love both 
i encourage you to sit around and listen to the earth prophet's song! but in beta cos there's no way you'll get to hear a lot with all the people running around in live
fire boi have some fire ost there 
live is going nuts with the spirit memories XD all four playing at once
I didn’t manage to notice - do the classes sit in different parts of the circle? Would be cool to catch a picture of all the classes seated at the same time...
Earth omg... My friends all stopped and said wow to the music ... I listen to it repetitively ....
I took many photos sitting with the prophet classes
I feel bad for the people who want to experience the memories, people are just zooming through them
the classes are the 2 students from each prophet and all 4 prophets. same class in all four memories in same part of circle
live is going nuts with the spirit memories XD all four playing at once
@random gull it‘s not glitching like it did originally here in beta, is it? Haven’t had a chance to test in live haha, but I remember it made an awful noise when two or more spirits were being relived at the same time around the QG
at least we can relive them now 😌
the classes are the 2 students from each prophet and all 4 prophets. same class in all four memories in same part of circle
@random gull Yeah; I think that's one of the neatest things in the whole season.
The mods have to know something about this...but I'm too scared of them to ask
Hard to take pictures in live. Plenty of people running. I even got confused to which spirit we are reliving because others are reliving other spirits at the same time too. 
I didn't hear any weird noises Kai. but it might have been because I was actively reliving one of those four and hearing the music from that one
I didn’t hear any weird noises Kai. but it might have been because I was actively reliving one of those four and hearing the music from that one
@random gull i see! I will make sure to test it when I start the season in live
I‘m giving it a little time so I can actually see the spirits without the chaos of everyone trying to relive at once
smart move, im doing that too 
And chaos it was. Not to mention the pain in the eyes brought by these glowing kids. 
Same, I felt so bad because some people wanted to see the memories but you had like 0.01 of a second before the hologram poofed to the next one 
I really got some nice photos of me sitting with class.. Id love to know no one will turn up and set it off so i rush them..
It was terrible everyone doing a different spirit at same time ...some are real savagely quick at wanting to finish them😂
I been chilling with spirit memory music in beta occasionally since people aren't so zoom-y here
hopefully the zooming ends in live before the season does so others can chill with the music (or even better that sky releases it in a seasonal OST download
)
Alot of people are loving the water trial , it was nice to hear many share the same love 🤍
Night everyone take care💛
I managed to find an empty server in live today, I recorded the earth prophet’s theme well enough 
Every single one of them sounds amazing imo
I need to redo earth trial, only did it once ;-;
...has beta chat finally calmed down? 
not a lot needed to be discuss here for now 
Someone know how to get ghost manta voice in vault? I go to get it (in 4th floors, manta's bones) and it said "I haven't learned to do this yet"
iirc you need the whale call from the whale skeleton in the forest bridge area, but it could be the bird call from the orrery in valley. im not sure which 
You need the manta call, aka the valley call, aka the citadel scattered lights quest, aka a pain in the neck, aka my most vivid memory as a moth, aka I could go on 
I was so confused about what to do as a moth and then yesterday I was helping friends with it and we finished in 1 minute and I was so confused
oof I always think that ones a bird because of the bird right in front of that area
But the icon is a manta
plus bird call is in prairie lmao
Sock are you in beta ?
Does anyone know when or how to get the witch hat and the bat like cape I thought it was in the new season but I suppose it isn’t
Those are for for Days of Mischief, which (I believe) hasn't started yet
Thank you guys so much, I think my problem is I was ignore manta voice in Valley

you can get them starting october 22nd sock!
At the office, it’s a Halloween special 
Irl money from the in app purchases
Okay thank you, follow up question how do you get them do you have to pay money or what the situation on that
They're all paid items
that moment when you have evidence to back up your lore ideas but it’s from beta and you can’t say anything
its only a 70 day wait 
yup : ,)
Because I FINALLY know how to look at the murals in order stuff is starting to make sense but idk how to express any of it, or see if it’s correct
Also may I ask are the prince and king the same person or..? Where did the prince come from
Lore chat will give you a better answer but the prince turns into the king at some point, people use prince/king interchangeably, I think the last I heard of the topic king referred to the all power form and the prince referred to the current/past non corrupted form
gotcha gotcha
okay now my thing makes slightly more sense lol
I come in peace almighty beta gang
Who’s the prince and king?
So my theory from the murals is:
ShinyBoi came on a boat with a younger Isle elder (no staff but boat mask on)
8 Villagers were selected for the trials, 2 of each being selected by each prophet.
All the villagers failed, except shinyboi, who got the 4 coloured lights and sent them off to 4 of the elders
But
The coloured lights are in different regions than enchantment, unless the one I'm counting as orange is actually red, but blue in forest and cyan in valley are different, so I'm wondering if part of that the lights prior to Eden were put in "unnatural" places except prairie, which is less touched by the corruption
Forest has been corrupted water in the rain, associated with blue light wanting to be in valley,
Valley has been corrupted with air between the ruins (citadel) and races broken structures, associated with the cyan light wanting to be in the free Isles air.
Wasteland has been "burnt" which is associated with the orange light, which wants to be in forest.
ShinyBoi ascends Eden, watched by the vault villagers and elder and became the prince/king we see after Eden before orbit.
That’s a very detailed and great theory but a little confusion
Ok but who’s the prince and king I wanna know
We don't know for sure, but my speculation is that the Prince and King is the only one who succeeded on the 4 trials and became the one trapped in Eden.
The term king/prince came from the Tom Zhao concept arts
Seriously that’s an awesome theory 🥳🥳🥳👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👍👍👍
Ok Tom Zhao pls give me info I love lore but I need the details and sources.
Eventually I'll share it with lore channel when all the murals are displayed
BTW Tom's concept art is here:
https://www.tomzhao.com/sky1
Ont that’s amazing
Some of the main ones have been shared multiple times in #lore-discussion-spoilers
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632004389137154048/707466446686650458/image0.jpg
Thanks!
I kinda like co start people typing this isn’t right where are my late night discussion friends

One of the main sources (though concepts are changed considerably) is the timeline
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/632004389137154048/762416084388151306/SPOILER_133b_Sky.jpg
You may need to download it to see it in full resolution
@late scarab hi faze !
Hi!
I need help to complete last trial of sky by cheats(RC) , can you help me ?
What doesn't kill you makes you stronger 
I can’t sorry I don’t know any cheats
No no , only Rocket trick (by piggy back ) 😁😁
Oh yes I could help if I had candles lol
I have piggyback spells 😎🤩😂😂
Oh yee yee I thought you meant live ok dm me so we can be friends
tom zhao's hoard is getting added to my hoard now 
Can you send QR to continue chat in - game !
Same Tom Zhao is awesome great artist
You just shared a beta invite in a public channel, @finite maple. Beta invites can't be used by players who haven't already joined beta, and they're single-use so you should probably DM those
Woah I had a dm and now thatskyprophet snatched it
friends with sky bot

Where to share Qr , wait wait !!
The ideas of the prince/king are one of the only concrete pieces of sky lore we have that isnt shown in game explicitly, but instead his image and symbol is everywhere, the diamond designs, the prophecy pendant, statues in wasteland(battlefield is the most prominent), and of course he's littered literally everywhere in the concept art 
Oh my god I love the concept art
I reported my first hacker in live!
live?
I just found another i-
celebrates hackers
if you're reporting people who have the ultimate gifts already, that's not hacking. They paid money for it
unless you're talking about something completely differently
don't know the costs for Prophecy, but a friend of mine spent ~$90 to finish Sanctuary the first day
^^
Now if you find someone in live who has the mischief hat or cape, that would be a hacker to report
To buy the whole season outright would be about $160AUD. So don’t report people who have all the items already...only things that haven’t been released yet (as Kai mentioned above)...also if people have somehow accessed the other trials and have more wings than they should (e.g. 146 instead of 145)
I'm sorry I get it now
@late scarab
What?
reminder that if someone gets reported and they did nothing wrong then nothing happens to them. You don't need to feel bad for reporting players you're suspicious of. If it turns out your suspicions were wrong then nothing happens. If they were right then TGC takes care of it.
Thank you for doing your best to keep the community safe! 
Yes, agreed...better to be safe than sorry.
I know I reported a few in beta when the hearts first started appearing above people’s heads. 
wait is red light not the one “gained” in the fire trial? I thought that one was fire and orange was different
Anyone know the required amount of seasonal candles to get everything?
330, tied with rhythm as the priciest season 
gEEz
Ok so, in that case, what is the LATEST I could get the pass if I get all seasonal candles every day?
within 55
about $110 usd if I did math right to buy enough candles. 55 days if you get all 6 candles every day
So how much are the halloween cosmetics?
i mean, that's how much you need to finish the season, there's 15 free days
So the game should say 55 days in the pass remaining is the latest I should buy the pass?
Ok, thanks
yep
@spark lance #beta-screenshots-videos message
😔
but without the pass its only 5 a day, so if its 55 days with the pass itll be 55 +11 days without
anyone know earth prophets prices? trying to math my way into seeing how far my beta kid is from completing the season
I'm 1 day and 1 candle from completing water prophet. and I know the first node on earth is 12 candles
#seasons-events-chat message the price chart
if the prices are the same as in live, they're pinned in #seasons-events-chat
was gonna link it, dark too fast 
they are
the projected cost of the season seems relatively higher than sanctuary, we don't seem to have as much leeway for missing days this time
Yeah
Ya this is the most expensive season so you can’t miss as many days 
sweet I'm 9 days away from completing
(55 days in live if you farm all 6 candles every day. 66 days for non pass items if you don't have pass)
i would of been able to complete the season around the 15th in beta if google didn't cause problems 
can't even participate in the season in live
closer to 64 to be precise, because 12 of the candles in that totalled cost are for the hearts (which non-pass players can't buy, so their total cost drops to 318 candles instead of 330)
edit: and yeah, we're not looking at a particularly big conversion/rollover gain right now without any double seasonal candle events
Conversion day is gonna be so brittle in a few months 
We’re probably gonna need one if we’re gonna finish the season without stress
Or maybe an extension like enchantment got, but I’m pretty sure that’ was cause of android release
revising the item costs is another option, but yeah, i think either an extension or double seasonal candles would probably be less disruptive overall (a cost revision would affect players differently depending on what they've already bought)
I was just so used to beta giving you 11 a day 
Same 
woah, i just realised how expensive prophecy costs were 
i swear, they didn't cost that mu- oh wait, beta giving candles 11/day lol
the prophecy cycle starts again...
I’m starting to wonder if skybot is dropping lore hints 
then skybot is in the wrong channel, #lore-discussion-spoilers 
correct me if i'm approaching this incorrectly, but if i'm thinking correctly...
(Total Earnable - Total Cost) / (Candles per day) = Leeway
AP holders currently have a leeway of about two weeks:
(70 x 6 - 330) / 6 = 15 days
Non-AP holders have a leeway of less than 7 days:
(70 x 5 - 318) / 5 = 6.4 days (round down to 6, since being able to miss "part of a day" doesn't amount to much)
Ah yes
General-math-discussion
Oof, then non pass really have it rough, the good news is the last node is usually a blessing of some sort for non pass so they can skip in in favor of the cosmetics
i don't understand, show your work 
oh wow, that's rough for non-pass bois.
oh good point lyze, i forgot part of the candle rollover i got from sanctuary was from skipping any final nodes that were blessing only -- let me check that again...
edit: if i'm reading the chart correctly...all of the final free nodes are cosmetics 
Oh no need I just saw the chart, alll the final nodes are cosmetics 
And I also double checked in beta, same there as well
We're only introducing four spirits, they said. It'll be fun, they said.

Where’s the numbers I pulled up a few days ago...
#beta-discussion message
So from order of cheapest to priciest,
Gratitude, lightseekers, belonging, enchantment, sanctuary, rhythm, prophecy
i guess those people who wanted harder stuff in sky got what they wanted-
It's funny that they said they want to relieve stress of TS, but Prophecy spirits are going to be incredibly expensive as TS 
hey @hollow cloak do you know anything about this prophecy everyone keeps taking about?
And you cant really count the first three season since they were much shorter than we have now 
and then they thought “oh yes let’s tie ts into adventure passes!”
👁️👁️
Well, I wasn't going to revive that whole debate again 
btw, they fixed a typo in #beta-announcements, go give it a read!
I read it but don't understand it 
i'm here to say good morning 
Well if they throw down the prices with the ts change then the future prophecy ts will be cheaper
the TS tied to AP right now is ONLY in beta and they have no plans to bring it to live at this time. this is something they were testing out based on feedback they got and they want beta testers to give them feedback on it (probably for a good number of TS) before the bring it to live if they even do
true, just felt strange the first time I read it
Edit: I am now processing the update message whoops! that makes more sense carry on
in short, only gratitude ts are affected
Enchantment was cheaper AND had an extension,
chill times all around
I do hope that the paywall doesn't go live.
I'm almost certain they got the idea from someone in wishlist or feedback channels
I don't entirely hate it but (and I did feedback this already) I would make it so pre-order passes can be gifted before season starts and make it so the ap locked nodes are free for ap holders but still candle cost for non ap holders. get rid of the grind for thsoe who can afford it but still allow the grind for those who can't or who would prefer to grind over spending money.
I- okay whoa...
I would like to point out my second idea relies entirely on if the game engine even allows split pricing like that though 
hey they said they want to make passes giftable during off-season! remember this is very early into the change still, so we havent see everything or possible other options yet ^^
I would like to point out my second idea relies entirely on if the game engine even allows split pricing like that though
That's something I'm always thinking about. It's like, 'oh, this would be a great idea,' but... It also seems like the devs are limited by the engine
(And yeah, the devs are responsible for worrying about that and not me, but I still consider it when I'm thinking of ideas/feedback)
they have done some things they previously thought were impossible with the engine already (valley ice rink underwater be like
now)
I really hope that they scrap the idea of making some items AP accessible cuz that eliminates the replay ability and worth of Sky.
eliminates the replay ability how?
Saw something in a behind the scenes real of an animated movie where they had to bounce the light off of weird places and unnatural angles to get the exact affect that they wanted, and I can see the same in some places of sky, the only example that comes to mind however is the secret room in the forest temple, that place has no windows whatsoever but still has a skylight flowing in type feel 
I mean, the reason we grind candles is because of the TS. To get stuff we couldn't get in the past. When some items in the TS are AP accessible then what's the point, all that grind would be worth for like half of the items of the TS
that may be your reason, but candles have a lot more uses than that
J, well you can’t really replay seasons and there’s still some pretty god tier cosmetics that are free
Oh wait you went somewhere else with the point 
—
Did you know it takes 75 candles to complete a friendship tree 
Yea this might be my reason, don't take it too seriously
I rarely grind candles
still get on sky every single day to chill and talk with friends. do daily quests sometimes. find crazy OOBs sometimes. or just chill in home space and learn new songs from each other
Its supposed to mimic what the spirit had during the season. Although they allowed f2p players access to past ap items, it was not intended to be like that. 
I'm still working on my constellations so thats why I'm grinding candles. I want elder hairs 
yeah, i got on sky every day and didn't candle run. just chilled and spent all my candles on moths 
You know, hearing peoples' opinions, I feel like TGC underestimated the importance of cosmetics in game 
I mean obviously cosmetics aren't the only reason to play - this is a social game - but they've become a huge motivation/staying point to a fairly large group of players
no worries! but just a reminder that wording is important in feedback
and this goes for all of us, a good tip for writing feedback is talk from a 'me' stand point. not 'we' or 'all players'.
J, unrelated question, is that Sachichy’s art in your pfp ? 
i do candle run to unlock friendship trees, and also giving my friends hearts so they can unlock whatever they wants to unlock.
point in case being I"ve been on sky since before rhythm and if I actually did grind daily and put effort into it, I'd have completed all the realms constellations by now. I mostly throw candles at upgrading friendships 
@random gull I do the same thing and I was here before Rhythmus too lol
I know they are trying to keep a fair balance for people who had to pay for the seasons in the past to get those items vs people who were late to the game who are able to get the same items, but for free.
(Remember the opposite of that that they accidentally released? i. e. Be reimbursed for paying for a season by giving up your items in exchange for candles? - it could be a whole lot worse is what I’m saying).
It’s a very fine line and it will be hard to please everyone, no matter what direction they choose.
I am very grateful that they are ever-evolving and looking to change and improve the game.
I don’t know about you, but this is the most involved game company I have ever really come across tbh
Hey everyone, I just read in beta-update channel that only items tied to Gratitute AP, will have Prophecy AP restrictions. Is this only for testing purposes?
Whenever you think TGC is just another dev company that doesn't listen or care... Just think about the rainbow bridge.
Seriously, who un-patches a bug? 
Rainbow bridge?
you're very right on that, i've never seen a company actively listen to it's players and try to come up with compromises to make most of them happy
Exactly TGC is That Game that Cares
^
Omg yes! Not to mention all the little gimmicks we can do (think piggyback rocket) that they have left untouched because of it’s unintended usability 
Still waiting for my season of TWO boats... 
Yesss they are really nice people and I’m very grateful for them I’d actually spend money and I wouldn’t regret it they are such a wonderful company they do too much to make us all happy
and the fact they created such a wonderful community as well mad respect and thanks to them
Where’d everyone go?
beta chats get quiet at times, we're usually doing other things or supposed to be doing other things. 
I know this is weird but I rather have every one Continue to talk and go off for days then be silent
I am attempting to get one heart to finis prairie on live XD server splits be like nah you can't join your friends
Thought we all were just thinkin bout boats 
i would send you one but intensely glares at google 
oof seems like won't be an update in a while. wish for sanc and plants patch
Beta still updates every now and then for crash fixes before they funnel everything together for another patch update 
I finally got a friend I didn't split from!
I hope TGC likes it but I’m working on a season idea and I’m drawing out EVERY detail. Maybe they’ll like it and except it and make a season like it???

Code it up and send it to them 
i'm an artist! i do digital and traditional art. ||though it's not very good xd|| 
I bet all your art is very good and I would like advice as I start my journey in animation and digital art!
I hope there’s a season design constellation one day 
Faze I can dm you my Instagram cause Im not interested in letting people find it 
i've always wanted to do animation, but i don't have the time to animate things. though i wish to learn one day 
I dabble in animation sometimes, and I’m looking toward a career in it
but that’s about it pffft
No better time then the middle of a pandemic thats forcing people to do nothing but be infront of a computer 
@tiny umbra I want to start to do animations too and become a professional animator myself!
No better time then the middle of a pandemic thats forcing people to do nothing but be infront of a computer
school, and not the online version lol
Have they added the use of ascended candles for elder hair in live yet?
Luci, yes they did! That update came with the summer lights event 
Managed to snag
the day before the update, worth it 
Oh awesome
That's what I'm getting tomorrow woot
(Yess join the kakashi squad)
There doesn’t happen to be a red cape with fur at the ends is there...
Anyone here an artist??
What kind of art do you do?
@late scarab
I am is it ok if I can help as well ; 0 ?? I can show you some art reference n stuff
@hollow crystal that would be Great!!
Anyone think that add ultimate gift except elders hair for regular realm is a good idea?
There doesn’t happen to be a red cape with fur at the ends is there...
there's a gratitude cape with that kind of description. but if it looks like it came straight out of a christmas festival no, that's not an existing cape and anyone who has it should be reported.
There doesn’t happen to be a red cape with fur at the ends is there...
@solid dune report!!!! It is not released yet must be a hack
There doesn’t happen to be a red cape with fur at the ends is there...
Yeah, i saw them around often with santa hat and ultimate gifts fromand
haha kai i love your description for it 
if it looks like rhyme furr cape but red, nah
Exactly the Rhythm fur cape with color and wing icon from Belonging red cape-
If it’s not completly red but it’s still furry, that’s a hacker,
If it’s red and red and more red, that’s
👁️
on another note, unless they are a dev, no player in beta has the gratitude or lightseekers ultimates. it was not possible to complete those seasons
red and red and more red
yEs
Yeah it was rhythm cape 
I feel bad for all the regular rhythm cape users in beta rn 
Welp now we all got spoilers that it looks the same as rhyme fluffy
seriously...
Beta has been crazy this season with
occurrences
ok we should probably stop talking about it now before we all get beaned 
The mods have been oddly silent this whole day 
We should stop before we summon them
Okay, topic change. I’m worried if I can even finish the season before it ends on beta
How many days left in beta ? Around 20 ? I think that’ll be enough, it’ll be close, but enough
i think we can, since so many candles a day 
11 candles x around 20 days = 220 candles, if you've already spent around 100 you should be fine.
It says 41 in game but that should not be trusted
41 
Good thing we split the count in half 
I don’t know if 20 should even be trusted tho
Since i got the seasonal heart bug, my motivation to finish this season in beta just 📉
Ever since sanctuary beta, I learned to NEVER try to insta claim hearts or ultimate gifts
Prolly still gonna snatch the pants tho 
I remember that, the ultimate placeholder-
If it’s even 10 days, 10*11 is 110 so that’s fine as well 
Ever since sanctuary beta, I learned to NEVER try to insta claim hearts or ultimate gifts
i was actually going to buy the gift asap but since i check beta-gen before playing i learned of the seasonal heart bug lol
I’ve gotten online everyday and so far I only have 1 heart claimed.
always lurking in the beta updates and known issuse
So far I just have one node left on air prophet before the heart and the entire fire boi tree, and I’ve missed a day or sos worth of quests cause I simply couldn’t complete them (high five a friend, 4 person chain, etc)
so close
i like the korra hair too.
and