#beta-discussion
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Wait?
Its a separate app and server
Oof i download on own app store lmao
the only legitimate way to download beta is from an official invite link from #beta-signup-info when the beta waves open up.
Please read #beta-faq for more information about invite waves and how to join. The next invite wave won't be for probably a couple months though, so you will have to wait if you didn't get an invite last time
Hello.. I downloaded the beta on my android phone and have been playing for quite some time. I now have an IPhone and I am wondering how to install the beta again. I would like to continue playing with the avatar I’ve already created before I switched phones.
i don't know if you can, because your google play account might not be able to connect to the iPhone version of beta. and if you want to download beta if you don't have it, you'll need to wait for an invite wave because i don't think you can download it otherwise.
though i can't be sure on connecting the google account, i don't have an ios device.
Yes that is my predicament. It’s unfortunate. I made so much progress with my beta avatar. I’ve already missed out on so much. I don’t understand why I have to start over and wait for the next wave just because I needed a new phone 😞
have you linked your beta account? 
Beta account can be linked to google account. I just don’t know if it works just like live
Yes I believe I set it up with an email. I just have no way of downloading the app
it's beta, things like this can happen. (wipes, new phones cause the old ones died, etc.) it's why we say "don't get too attached to your betakid."
it's between android and ios, i'm not sure if you can connect a google account to an ios device because i don't have one. and either way, they still have to wait for an invite wave because they can't get the app.
I have my global sky account from my android connected to my iPhone. That’s all set. I’m just missing playing beta.
the thing is, (idk how it works very well on ios, i'm a android betakid xd) you have to sign up for an invite wave with testflight right? idk if you have the option between game centre and google play. but either way, unfortunately you still have to wait for an invite wave. no other way to get the app legit.
@copper bison, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
thank you, thatskycrab. i will keep that in mind in case i forget one day 
Okay thank you. I hope one day they fix this issue. Thank you for your help.
What about the colors?
@jade night
i meant color by seasons! what i interpreted each season's main color theme was i guess💦
Well, if that’s the case then
Red/orange 
Blue/yellow 
The color of family 
Purple/baby blue 
Dark purple/yellow 
...manta 
Manta is my favorite color
yes, the manta colour, coming straight from the mantas themselves.
= white and yellow/orange
pretty near to #000033
Guess I missed out on this season
When will the new season come?
when the current season ends
@spark lance What you described is an issue with Google, some Android players have had issues with the play store saying they're a tester but they can't download the game. Google doesn't seem to want to fix it, so unfortunately if you're one of the players affected by the bug, then you'll have to wait until the next access wipe and try to get in through another invitation
So
I played beta ~a year ago~
Then got bored and deleted, bc was playing non stop
Now I want to get back in and play non stop again to get bored again.
You're gonna have to wait unfortunately. There was an access wipe, so anyone who played before June can't play in beta rn
:( when it wil happen? I will put a reminder
We dont know 
Theres no announcement on when the next wave is open
you have the beta invites role, you'll be pinged once invites are being handed out
until then, you can only wait
The next invite wave probably won't be for around a couple months still though (or at least several weeks). They'll start testing for the next season once the current season in live is ending or close to ending
:( I was reinstalling sky sokme times during my period of non stop playing, one time when it said to update playmarket refused to do it, it was one of things that made me stop playing it.
Okay, so I didnt know I had invite role, I will wait then.
Oh... there was a wipe then too I think
That might have been why you couldn't update?
I cant play live too btw, (and dont even want because I wont have stuff I earned)
If you cant play live, you ask around in #questions-and-help maybe? But if you played before July 2019, you'd have to start over in beta anyways
Beta isn't a substitute for live because sometimes its impossible to collect everything during seasons. You can have your items wiped at anytime. Live is much better
And when playing Beta, progress wipe can happen anytime so better not get attached to Beta 
Beta purpose is to test about new stuff. For general playing, better play in Live since everything is more polished.
Hewwo
!whatsnewinbeta
Bug fixes and improvements 
relive this spirit in prairie?

tbh i didnt even bat an eye until i actually went into wasteland and was like “
WAIT.
?????”
Can people please explain the difference between beta and live?
What did the beta cape look like that the beta testers got in 2018?
Whee23: beta is a testing ground for new features, such as a season.
Flint: it looked basically the same, just a slightly different tone of blue
ooohhh! Cool!
I might have a photo somewhere, if you want to see. But it's probably difficult to tell the difference without a comparison side by side.
Why is Sky children of light not available for wiko devices?
That might be a better question in #android-questions
Like, from the last update it’s burning, I was exploring it, may be it’s the issue of my old phone, but no. Only in Sky
@devout lintel no swearing even if it is censored please
Ok. But it seem really dangerous
From #beta-announcements
We are looking for some additional information on the following issue:
If anyone has experienced an increase in device overheating in recent builds compared to Live, please consider submitting a bug report in #beta-bugs-ios or #beta-bugs-android. Please include information about when you started experiencing the increased device temperature and, if possible, a recent build that you don't recall device overheating as much.
Thank you!
Ok
Does anyone know when the next access wipe will be?
around when season ends in live, but we don't know exactly when.
I hope there's going to be some more exciting things for us to test before the wipe 
Doubt it
This is what beta is always like
One large update with seasonal goodies and then fine tuning after that
Everyone's interested in the new shiny stuff when the boring daily testing after the shiny new testing smell wears off is often more important for the health of the game.
The cutscene after you complete the last treasure hunting quest on sanctuary looks cooler now that there is going to be a whole WHALE flying around the island. The whole place is more lively now!
I thought the whale isn’t sticking around? Did I miss an update that added that?
Yeah, I thought it was just making a temporary appearance for the cut scene.
I dont know im just judging based on what i saw on the vid that is posted on #beta-announcements but if the whale isnt sticking around you bet im making a bell msyelf and call her to stay FOREVER ON SANCTUARY PERIODT✨
Ktjn can you tell us if there anything that needs to be tested controller wise? (Ps4:Xbox one ect)
Everyone's interested in the new shiny stuff when the boring daily testing after the shiny new testing smell wears off is often more important for the health of the game.
@vapid briar shiny things? This can be interesting, like shiny candle 😳
But please NO shiny costume
i think she means the seasonal content at the beginning of testing. "shiny" as referring to new and fun content 
Please don't ping someone several hours later just to quote them, and especially not TGC staff.
Yeah, shiny was a figure of speech 
Rose, i don't think there's anything specific to test controller-wise. The controls scheme has been pretty set in stone for a very long time. There is no custom button-mapping or anything like that, only inverting camera and controls options. Switch development may warrant testing and feedback, but that's a bit of a different beast due to different processes than mobile platforms.
Peeps in gen chat wishing for an in game translator when little do they know that one has been in testing for a while already 
in-game translator is pretty good i have to say. At least I think it's pretty good at translating chinese to english.
It is pretty good! However, it seems to be a bit hard to figure out how to get the button to pop up sometimes
I do think the translator is very helpful, should get it to live
Pretty sure that they're planning on it 
From the patch notes, it seems like they're making sure certain languages are accurate before releasing it to live
I hope so I use it so much in beta, all ways looking for it in live, then I remember. 🤣 
Where is the ts this time?
Having the in game translator in live would be great, sometimes I become a third wheel as I watch two of my friends have a discussion in a different language
The translator seems to work for a lot of languages. The main issue is you can say some really rude words in one language and when translated into English, the filter doesn't catch it.
Sorry but can i ask that, on hidden forest constellation whale call, we have to proceed but need 99asc... Is that known issues? I already report about it, but i just want to know, cuz my friend mistaking it to be a way for go ||capeless|| somehow..
I just want to clear this misunderstood is all.. thank you :"
It is correct. The item costs 99 ac and then 999 hearts to unlock. But it is also not meant to be unlocked and the spirit is mainly used as a placeholder for these type of joke items or items meant to be somewhere else. (The Lightseeker umbrella was there at one point also.)
It's invisible cape. Not capeless.
Its been days and I still cant update beta app
Do we know when they are going to announce Sky for other platforms?
Or have they announced it before
There are no announced release dates for other platforms yet. All we know is they are working on getting it out on Switch either later this summer or sometime this year (but no confirmed date yet)
After that, they've said they have plans to get it released on other platforms eventually as well, but again no exact timeframe for that
Does the beta have whatever all the bells unlock?
the season has ended, so yes, the sanctuary is complete. know that what is in beta can change before going to live
:oo
Also can we pls send letters(texts) to players who are offline. Like there is this one friend i made on sky who hasnt logged in for a while😩 i really hope i could write a text that would go to him once he logs in anytime soon. Idk maybe a bird coming and giving you the letter or smthing like that 🥺
@spark lance This is the channel for discussing beta. You might want to post that in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived instead.
I wanted to kinda be sneaky in hopes for the devs to see it but OOP guess not-
they check the wishlist way more than this channel tbh, and in the case they do check in here, they'll probably redirect you to the correct channel as well ^^
It's mostly just beta players hanging around here and we can't do much about those things, other than give feedback just like you can.
#beta-bugs-ios #bug-reports-android are your friends
Hi all.
Interested in the question of the game's appearance in AppGallery, or rather without mandatory gapps. I have already raised this question before, but unfortunately the answer was not satisfactory. Is there any news on this issue ? Huawei users without Google Services are getting more and more every day.
@jade forge I pretty sure that if you are looking for live version you can search sky 光遇 but I do not think that that applies to beta
you can’t download beta unless you have google
same for international live version of sky
I think Ktjn answered your question in #android-questions 
@cosmic scroll old version? 0.6.2 Jule 03
@empty inlet Beta? Yes. Or Release ver. from download TapTap
I am not sure lol you should post your question in #android-questions
Sorry i don’t understand your question
Wait there's new accessories?
Where?
there's no such thing, the video you saw was hacked content, please refrain
Oh...that
I wish they’d take a poll whether people actually enjoy doing the daily quests season after season or just do them bc they have to.
it's more like encouraging you to login everyday
Do people get a notification if they don't complete it? 
nope, but you need candles from daily quests
I've had notifications turned off since the start, maybe I should of tested that function 
Is it just hearts and star lights? 
and some in-game events as well
like android release and traveling spirit arrives
and message candle likes (not all of them once it goes public)
Message candle likes from friends
I'm glad it doesn't remind you of daily quests and the like, like some other games 
you haven't completed daily quests today!
i would have 5 of those waiting for me on my phone for me to check on saturday ->-
come grab your daily candles!
For the next 5 hours only!...
your skychild misses you. log back in today to claim your rewards!
Manage, Turn off...
me: sorry live skykid and beta skykid, i have work. i'll give you love and attention later 
also me: procrastinating the work i'm supposed to be doing ;-;
On another note, what do you guys think about the success in China? 
Success because of the download?
That's beta related, right? 
There used to be so many players from China in beta, think it helped spread the word? 
Definitely
I mean they've doubled the userbase in a month thanks to China 
And Netease is doing much more promotion campaign than tgc tbh
iOS user base in China wasn't a small number as well
Are they? 
That's what I was more curious about 
If you count them in, China has the largest user base rather than Japan
What exactly did they do, and can we do it here as well? 
It's too complicate to discuss in here i'm afraid
One of the campaign before iOS version launched in China (or shortly after? can't remember), they cooperated with Apple Store and had some art session iirc
we don't know if it will go to live at all. some things don't make it out of beta.
this is so sad
It wasn’t even tested it was a bug in textures
was the valentines swing a thing only for beta? i can only find videos from beta on the permanent swingset
nope, it's in live but it was limited
ive never seen it on anyone before, i hope they will brng it back
Please anyone knows where is the traveling spirit?
Thanx
Single-use swing is sometimes available in live Ark shop iirc
Where is the ghost mantis call

Why does tye whale whisperer has a node of 99 ac 🕯️?!
it's a placeholder, check the pins of this channel
Ghost manta is on the floor with mantas flying in Vault. You need the regular manta call to unlock it. Find a platform with some bones on it.
Hello how many more days until beta season ends ?
season already ended in beta
Okay thx
It ended about two weeks ago, I think.
@hexed saffron why were you wondering about that, btw?
TGC is spoiling us with a season that's currently running in live 
Where can I find it
Are beta players having the adventure pass rn?
Or does it says pre order for everyone?
Pre order for everyone. Sanctuary has ended in Beta.
0 mins left?
Its just a placeholder 
Ok..thx
@hexed saffron i'm implying season of sanctuary by that, you should focus on it at the moment, testing for a new season won't happen for a good few months
Okay 🌷✨
how long has the translator been refined in beta for? Any idea on when it will reach live?
Wow this is a quiet chat at this time. No one posted for an hour 
Since I'm not sure anyone will answer this for awhile please ping me if you do so I'll see it when I'm next online

@late mountain the translator has been in beta for a few months. We have no idea if/when it will make it to live.
Ah okay thank you! I hope they plan to add it to live, would be super helpful ^^
The devs have been fixing it language by language so far, so it seems likely that it will come to live. But don't take my word for it
Yeah I noticed that in the patch notes. Seems like it would be a waste to not bring to live so I hope its just refinement before they implement it ^^
There are also issues with the translations bypassing the filter, which is not so good.
Not sure if the devs considering outsourcing some features.
If they went with Google for translation, may be hard to port to the Chinese market 
Oh wait, all text in China market games must be in Simplified Chinese 
Does anyone know when I could start next season?
Chinese language comes in two versions.
Taiwanese, Traditional
China Mainland, Simplified
Malaysian Chinese uses both.
Hong Kong, Traditional
Singaporeans, Simplified
Alconaxx, we dont know when the next season will start in beta. It usually starts closer to the end of the season in live, so expect to wait at least a month or so
Switch comes first 
Understandable
Hey beta folks, try going into settings and changing the device's date, then check if you can see the daily quests 
And any other weirdness that accompanies that 
Just to corroborate DrapTap's request, we discovered that the quests seem to become messed up if your device date/time isn't correct. Someone reported it in QnH channel.
I tried in both Beta and Live
And yeah both got messed up
Just a question why is the android beta not having any in app purchases for candles anymore?
Beta never had in app purchases for candles
I dont remember if it was for candles but there were in app purchases....right?...
Only for the founders or starter pack and adventure passes
So..besides adventure pass it will not have any in app purchases now?
It has always been that way
It’s not necessary to farm for candles in beta
Unless you want to test runs
You don’t need to buy items in beta either, all of the base cosmetics don’t need to be tested
I don't understand the sentence here stating:
*Some Game Assets you obtain may have expiration dates, and they will no longer appear in your TGC Account upon the expiration date. *
What's that mean?
There's no such item in game for now
They might just put it there for legal purpose
Or referring to adventure pass
And the No Warranty section.
Idk why but the whole CAPS paragraph sound abit funny
A lot of it is legal stuff that has to be worded a specific way because of legal definitions of things
If it's not worded properly it can cause problems when it comes to things like lawsuits and all that stuff
True
To add to the conversation above, beta does not have candle packs because all iap are free for testing purposes. If we had candle packs we would no longer need to play the game, which we need to do to find bugs.
Just a reminder that the point of beta isnt to collect everything, as fun as that is. We play the game to find bugs and help make the live game better 
Found out my country currency is available in thatskyshop
I want new content c.c
i think the elder pins would be better suited for forest, wasteland, and vault as you cant easily get to the temple in under 4 minutes or so
in isle you can fly straight into the temple with no loading zones and minimal effort, and in prairie you can simply backtrack once you enter forest's hub into the door, and in valley you can backtrack from wasteland's hub if you fly back through the hole
@kindred bluff That's probably something to post in #wishlist-and-ideas-archived since it's not related to beta. 
oh whopps i did post it in feedback,, but i suppose i should post it there too
Oh, feedback is probably good also.
It's just that devs don't tend to sift through this chat for that type of info/feedback. And they might want to know about people's thoughts on the Star features.
anyway to get those emojis to add in my server?
If you mean the emotes in this server, they are either in-game icons, art made by TGC or art used with the permission of the original artist. The official ones are copyright of TGC so you cannot use them elsewhere, and if you want the community ones you'd have to ask permission of the artists
The only way to use those emojis legitimately in other servers is to have Nitro.
qwq
can i ask, the ulimate prize of season ,will be ts come back?
i see some information that he say was tgc announce the final prize will back,is that real?
I believe TCG has expressed the desire to bring Ultimates back in some way but are not sure how they will go about it or when it will happen
Seasonal Pendants and Ultimate Gifts will not appear on the Traveling Spirits in exchange for in-game currencies.
We plan to bring these items back in another capacity but we have not settled on what that will look like or the costs associated with it.
they will not return as TS
Idk who was just in Eden helping me, but thanks for helping me when a rock koed me by that first pipe. XD
So uh.. No news from Sky Beta for android yet, right?
Because I still can't install it although it's been months since I signed up-
Yeah google’s being mean 
"Once the season of Rhythm has concluded, the Gratitude Fur Cape Pack will be retired and we will no longer offer these kinds of packs in the Shop. Seasonal items will only be available from Traveling Spirits."
Does this mean I won't get the Fluffy White Cape? 
Or is that the name of their seasonal pass? Cause i have the orange fluffy cape
Just curious
The Gratitude Fur Cape Pack was available for purchase in the store during rhythm, people paid real money for the white fluffy cape and the red garuda mask. You can get the white fluffy cape but only if it returns as a travelling spirit. 
I’ve been wondering whether it’ll feature at all. I guess it wouldn’t be surprising, since they brought back the swing spells for purchase w in-game currency
They haven't said that it won't come back as a traveling spirit (and actually it did show up as a glitch once before for people who hadn't updated). So I think it's probably in the pool, it just hasn't been selected yet
Swings are a back item too that were available for a brief time as an in-app purchase. I don’t think it’s in the nature of TGC or Sky to totally bar people from getting items that used to be widely available. (charity stuff being the exception so far.)
@minor robin thank you
I was a little worried since the White Fluffy Cape is my dream cape haha (sorry for ping
)
Aayy no more worries now and as 💻 said too, it's probably in the pool. Just a matter of time for it to come back 
I noticed the Traveling Spirits have been going between Gratitude and Belonging for the last couple months, very odd coincidence 
There isn’t a set pattern or schedule, it’s completely random 
Yes, I am aware 
I find the lore introduction in Chinese language is more understandable than in English language.
Pretty much clearer picture of the whole story.
Did some battery stress test today. 1 hour 21 min of play and top temp is like 42 Celsius 
100% battery to 67%. The drain isn’t as sharp as it used to be tho. Compiling a detailed bug report 
What kind of apps are you guys using to measure phone temp? Or is there a feature for that already that I'm not aware of?
I play live on ios but I use android for beta. I use an app called “GSam Battery Monitor”. For ios you can see a graph of your battery % in the settings buut internal temperature isn’t available data. My friend tried looking and she said the only decent ios temp measuring app costs $4 usd 
Any recs for android?
Today I did a full solo candle run through prairie, forest (only had help getting into the sunny forest cavern) and valley.
I am beta android, I’m using GSam Battery Monitor....... tho this is just a comfort thing. It was recced to me a while ago, the timestamps could use improvement but overall I like it a lot. If I plug in my phone charger the line on the graph goes green, when I unplug it goes blue and I immediately start playing sky. That’s how I can accurately know when my start time is.
I'll take a look at it
my phone has been getting really toasty, but the temp feels different between live and beta so wanna see if that is actually the case
I def recommend starting at a similar baseline temperature so your readings can be accurate. So maybe play live and do one candle run in a realm, then wait several hours and do the same thing on beta.
My phone doesn't overheat
Just tested my temp. Started at 85 degrees Fahrenheit. Just 5 min into forest (entered 2nd area), it hit 100. It seems to stay at roughly 100-105 f for the rest of forest. My phone sure got toasty fast
Whoaaa that’s intense
Ok so for my beta vs. live runs I’ve been noting down the times and when I enter new areas, and I’ve marked them on the screenshot of the temperature graph, then I submit it to the #beta-bugs-android 
That’s a really stark difference to mine... it took me 15min to hit 37 celsius/98.6 F, then it kinda plateaued. Lool this is why I have 🍳 in my name right now ahahaa
I'm definitely gonna keep taking notes on temperature tomorrow. I was really surprised at how fast my phone heated up. I was sure it took longer 
I have a relatively new phone too... and I have game booster to limit overheating so it's strange that my phone is getting so hot
Okay... now that I’m looking over my bug-report I forgot to mention some critical stuff in my report that could affect battery graphs
g-guys don’t be like mee:
- FPS/Graphic setting. How many lightning bolts? (30fps and 1 lightning bolt for me)
- sound volume or if your device is mute (minimum for me, one notch away from mute)
- I forgot Americans prefer Fahrenheit. I gave temp in Celsius.
Haloo there! It seems Android live is somehow able to use vertical/portrait mode. I saw a friend of mine using portrait mode in live Android. I know it is not official yet in live but just wondering if anyone have noticed this.
excuse meee may i ask about how can i get the invisible cape?
Thanksss
i don't even think beta android has portrait mode yet, (can't check right now) so live android i dunno. i haven't seen it anywhere on android so far, beta and live.
you get the invisible cape by buying it from the forest whale call spirit in beta. it's past the 99 wingbuff lock and costs 999 hearts.
oic thanks for your answer lol
Hmm... yeah graphics are probably a huge indicator on how fast the battery drains and how fast the phone heats up. I always play with 2 lightnings, with sound in between mute and mid
my phone heats up real fast with 60fps, crisp graphics though
~~phoneFIRE emote when ~~
I also did some testing during the past weekend and for me HD 30fps got the phone way too hot, but 60fps mainly ate battery. I play on iOS.
However, I do notice a difference in certain environment; mainly clouds making the device heat up both in beta and Live.
Btw, re portrait mode on Android: I think some devices have a built in portrait mode that overrides the game somehow, but may also cause stretching.
I noticed that too on my phone! Prairie in particular increases my phone’s temperature a ton too. Tomorrow I’m going to test there too, today was focused on forest’s battery performance in beta vs. live.
Funny thing: beta was so empty that I got kinda spooked seeing a rando skykid in prairie cave
I think they had closed app?? They were grey, faceless... floating in midair and twitching a ton and it freaked me out for 2 seconds 
Eek! Yes, that happens sometimes. I always try to light up anyone I see in beta, just to say hi and bow to them.
It was at that cave exit too... where the light’s shining in... so I didn’t see them until they were SUPER UP CLOSE. 
I'm sorry suddenly. Is it a bug to be able to take screenshots on a portrait screen?(I'm used Translation)
from the last update i can confirm that for iphone6 at least the temperature becomes consistently warm rather than burning up in the first 5 minutes of gameplay, but even in some locations i can feel my phone stress from 30fps including prairie, forest, and the valley races, bonus points if i have a a music app like spotify running in the background. It has gotten a lot better though
If you are in iOS beta you can play and take photos in portrait mode now.
oh,Thanks
I play on iPhone XS and iPad Pro, has never heated up on me I over 1 year
That’s with graphics turned all the way up 3 lightning bolts, and in live and beta. I’ve tested for days in both games my batteries did not drain and my phone and my iPad never got hot I find no issues here
Version iOS 13.6
Is your sound on or do you have any other specific settings? It’s super interesting that it seems to be so different.
I recommend this game to have the mute button for the game's music because of the recent Vincent Diamante audio copyright.
Once my phone heated up pretty badly the first time I played Beta for about 30 mins, but then it stopped the next day
@brittle jasper that’s a very thoughtful suggestion but unfortunately this isn’t quite the right channel to post it here. Ktjn does browse through this chat but only to address some concerns regarding beta play. #wishlist-and-ideas-archived is the best place for your suggestion 
I’ve done some searching and... for Android’s “Gsam Battery Monitor” still looks like the most solid app for measuring internal temperature and battery %. Lot of other apps have so-so graphs or none at all or they require a person to root their phone... which is super not recommended here. 
Been two months any android peeps got access ?
Ktjn has said that that the issue affecting android players is only a small amount of beta players, there’s still nothing they can do about it
Btw if you guys are on iOS >> settings >> battery health.
There will be a 24hr graph that tracks the %.
I recommend briefly plugging in your charger so you can get that big green bar to appear on the graph, then unplug and start your testing. At least this can visually indicate exactly when you start playing sky 
!whatsnewinbeta
Bug fixes and improvements 
It’s beta, there’s not much to see lol
wait a second this isnt the LIVE OH NO- sorry my bad
I’m surprised slow mode is still on, unless it’s a fixed feature for beta chat?
I feel like we dont normally need slowmodes in the beta chat since it's normally very quiet... ** unless a invite wave is coming**
invite wave will gome soon in like 30 days, so might as well keep it there lol
true lol, the slow mode is not that long anyways
Invite wave is coming?
as shared in #beta-faq:
With each new Adventure Pass season, we will do a fresh wave of Beta Tester invites to help us test the season. (...) In the interest of fairness, we will reset everyone’s Beta access (but won’t generally reset friends or progress) when we conduct all new Beta invite waves. You can watch for these invite announcements and links in our #beta-signup-info and #beta-announcements channel.
:O yey
I kinda like the slow mode, gives this place a very chill, zen like feel
space and time to reflect on what to type next
I agree! I’m attracted to the zen and to the constructive nature of most beta players 
Confession: I usually play live on my ipad pro, and briefly on my phone, so I’m not very aware of where people encounter the most overheating.
I know places with clouds usually heat up a ton but have you guys encountered any unexpected places that heat up your devices? Earlier this week me and a friend discovered that spamming
really can hike up temperature
also hope you guys are compiling bug reports for this, let’s feed the team tasty tasty data!!
I had to switch apple id accounts which means TestFlight also removes beta, so I have to wait until next waves >:(
Beta is still on my ipad, I forgot the last time I ever updated it
your access is still on the other apple ID, unless you no longer have access to said ID
I’ve noticed now that when I play live on my phone.... heat increases the more people are on a map, and the more are lit up to show cosmetics. Oof I should have included more of that detail into my report.
Like: 3 players at forest map 3, 5 players at underground cavern & 3 lit up.
Next time. 
Is there a sky-music channel here, I just recently learned how to play GoT theme.
Nvm, I’m blind.
I recommend this game to have the mute button for the game's music because of the recent Vincent Diamante audio copyright.
@brittle jasper Sorry for the ping, but it's many hours later. We're looking into how/why the automated copyright strikes are being issued for videos of in-game recordings that include Sky's music. I'm not sure what the time frame for a resolution to this issue will be, but I did want to let you know we are aware and looking into it.
Just a notice: disrespectful/negative reactions (such as 💩 ) in the #beta-announcements messages will be removed, and will result in moderator action if it's a reoccurring incident. You can opt in to get pings in #beta-faq and it's entirely up to you to receive those updates, please be respectful
Slightly annoying question, sorry about this, but the only videos needed are the crashes that happen when trying to take a screenshot right? I crash both when I try and take a screenshot and when I try and fly down from the top isle in sanctuary
Are both scenarios useful to take videos of?
thank you 
if you happen to capture both, that's helpful! just be sure to include your device information so i can relay it to the team.
Ok! I'll try to capture both. I'll ping for the screenshot crash and put the other crash in #beta-bugs-android i think. Thank you! 
Ok! I'll try to capture both. I'll ping for the screenshot crash and put the other crash in #beta-bugs-android
i think. Thank you!
@fast ingot Awesome!!! I'll do the same. Let's help the Devs![]()

is hoping that makes sense as "no u" as opposed to a rude reaction 
Ngl, at first I just saw the
and I was like 
But then I saw the 🇺 and I was like

ive had no lag problems in sanctuary on my devices 
but ive seen many people have issues with lag and textures going all over the place (insane z-fighting) before
Gotta go test 
There’s always that spirit problem separating my friends and I from holding hands cause it thinks we’re guiding the spirit but you know that’s known
i was spamming the camera button on sanc and got no crashes 
my phone can copy the crash logs right away, i was hoping to get some crashes so i can send the logs to the devs but nope 
I haven't experienced this crash myself D: i am getting the weird lighting bug in both beta and live though
Ahaha, up until the most recent build, my device has been causing the beta app to crash on the loading screen. Not sure why, but I did a major cleanup of the device last week, and now it works! So time to put my beta tester hat on! 
i've had crashing problems in sanctuary and i've done a bug report on it before. i can't test right now to get footage, but i could on saturday/sunday get on to get a clip of me crashing. 
as for crashing when taking screenshots in sanctuary, it's usually fine and works properly. sometimes it does crash my game though, however it's very occasional that it does happen
Actually I still crash in upon entering sanc in live too, i need to report that. tbh, sometimes i reckon it's just because my device itself is dodgy lol, but it won't hurt to report anyway 
I never had crashing problem in Sanctuary fortunately, but now I'm crashing when entering Sunny forest from underground area since recent build in both live and beta
Haha fire, spamming to induce crashes is a new level of tester dedication 
dodgy device
also es, have you tried enabling show crash logs after crash on developer mode?
i also crash while entering sanctuary, however i have found a way to get on to the island by making the camera face my skykid, zoom it in so it's on my skykid's face, letting my skykid glide, and then dropping like a brick onto the island. 
Hmm I should try that developer mode for beta, might help
I didn’t experience a crash when I took a screenshot the first time. I’ll have to do some more testing
yes, crash logs really help devs knowing what happened and what caused the crash!
no problem for me
Fire, super sorry for late response, but no
, I'll go do that now, why didn't i think of that

do it 
aviary currently isn't anywhere in the game
Those are all old pics
thank you! also what was happening yesterday with the metallic bug?
Pretty sure those are also old pics? That was a bug that happened a long time ago
Does anyone know when the beta started the next season?
The next season likely won't begin testing in beta until the current season in live is over or almost over (so probably around a month or so from now, at least)
Thank you for your reply
I heard a rumor, that you can access the old home in beta, is that true?
No
Aviary
😭
😔
Oh how I wish they remodel the current home into Aviary
I’ve seen screenshots and vids and.... ngl Aviary doesn’t look very kind to people’s batteries. On one hand it’s a cool hub with a lot of space that encourages a lot of socializing, on the other hand cloud rendering burns through batteries and heats up phones. So as sky is right now... it’d be a bit of a trade off for some people: do I hang out with my friends chillin at hypothetical-Aviary? Or do I go do candle runs and miss the fun?? Battery drain would make this decision even harder to compromise or even have time to experience both.
Is there any chance, that I am going to be able to download the beta app? Since two month, it says I'm beta tester, but at the same time it says, the beta program is full. I know many people have asked, but its two month now, and I only want to know, if theres any hope. 🙃
its true aviary clouds make phone batteries go 
you can try the instructions in #beta-faq but if those don't work it's unlikely you'll be able to get in this beta testing season and actually test in game. you'll have to wait for the next access wipe to try for beta again unfortunately.
@copper bison thank you for your quick answer ^^
Am I automatically a beta tester in the next season or do I have to get in again?
when an access wipe happens, everyone loses access to beta so you have to join via invite wave. this is so newer testers can have a chance to join and it's not just the same people. so yes, you'll have to join with an invite again.
Alright...
hi
Wrong channel, sorry. I could have sworn I was in another.
i would battery drain the heck outta my phone for that old juicy sky 
if i could report all the graphical errors and z-fighting we have i would but theres so much everywhere 
So I crashed when entering the forest last second area, 3 times
And since it's a crash can't take screenshot.
Anybody else facing it? Shall I report it or wait to try later and confirm?
to record a crash happening use an external screen recorder
Does IOS iPad have an inbuilt screen recorder function like it does for screenshots? If so what’s the activate and stop please 
Please ping me if you know ^^
apple support says, "You can create a screen recording and capture sound on your iPad.
Go to Settings > Control Center > Customize Controls, then tap the Insert button next to Screen Recording.
Open Control Center, tap the Screen Recording button, then wait for the three-second countdown.
To stop recording, open Control Center, tap the Selected Screen Recording button or the red status bar at the top of the screen, then tap Stop." @late mountain
Thank you!

Anybody can't open testflight👀
I tried like mad to get the app to crash by taking pics and videos in Sanctuary on my iPad, but it ran smoothly for me. 
guys can somebody make a video on how to get sky beta app?
i still don't get it
anybody wanna help me?
Did you get the invite?
Well then you cant download beta right now
why not?
#beta-faq explains everything you need to know, scroll up to the top of the channel instead of just reading the last question
You need to wait for the next invite wave to open
They havent announced when. You can react to Beta Invites Roles in #beta-faq so you'll be pinged when the next invite wave is here
We don't know exactly when yet, TGC hasn't announced it. But it probably won't be until the current season in live is close to being over (so like a month or so from now)
oh
Does beta know which ts is coming next?
!tsbeta
Traveling spirits appear in the beta version at the same time as live, so we don’t know any details in advance
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
Ok, thanks
Saw something that was either a bug or a hack, unsure which. Got a video, but I can only select screenshots when reporting. Is there a way to send a report through discord and include a video?
Could you describe what it was? Maybe we can help you just from that.
You may also be able to upload to #beta-screenshots-videos and then link it to the report that way.
Does anyone know if the whale is in sanctuary after the finale? I’ve looked for it but don’t see it anywhere.
No, I don’t think so.
Too bad, but thanks!
just did a battery stress test... it took me 2 hours to run from isle to wasteland + ark. Top temperature was 40 celcius. Got some really great temperature graphs out of it at least
Now... to replicate the exact same route in Live either today or next-next day due to plant rotation.
Could you describe what it was? Maybe we can help you just from that.
@hollow compass sorry, didn’t see this until now since I wasn’t pinged 😅
I’ll upload the video in a moment, but I saw this person's cape energy rapidly decreasing and replenishing back and forth in the home space
That's either a weird bug I've never seen before or a hacker.
"This is a test. For the next sixty seconds, this cape will conduct a test of the Emergency Recharge System." 
"Skykid nuclear reactor A1 is engaged sir."
We are at defcon manta. Turn your key, sir 
" Aye Aye sir. Defcon manta confirmed, commencing the operation."
Dang. Wish i was here for that
This is so sad
||alexa play despacito||
@cloud horizon sorry for the ping, but I wanted to ask about your bug report in #beta-bugs-android you flagged it as beta but the build number 152154 is for the live version. did you experience the moth+chat bug on beta or live (or both)?
@cloud horizon sorry for the ping, but I wanted to ask about your bug report in #beta-bugs-android you flagged it as beta but the build number 152154 is for the live version. did you experience the moth+chat bug on beta or live (or both)?
@vapid briar i experienced it in live. sorry! i thought i followed the instructions correctly >.<
That's okay! It's an easy oversight and one of the reasons we ask for both in separate questions, just in case. knowing it was on live helps us narrow down what is possibly causing the issue. Thanks again for submitting bug reports, it really helps the team. 
anyone else crashing consistently on the transition zone between sunny forest and bridge area?
nope, that’s never happened to me. Tho I’m on android, LG G6.
Btw guys... something pretty funny happened during my battery candle run test through forest today:
- so... I can’t chibi step to get down to cavern and Velo agreed to help me stomp
- so we team up for a bit and everything is pretty peachy
- then we get to that section with the 3 darkplants to burn + butterfly jar.
- to be nice I deepcalled to charge Velo while she was helping me burn the left most plant
- SO SHE DECIDES TO RETURN THE FAVOUR RIGHT AS I BURN THE JAR LID OFF

- and basically this unstoppable torrent of butterflies smashes her into the ceiling

- and im laughing so hard but the RUN NEEDS TO GO ON so I totally abandoned her as she got smeared into the ceiling by overly-helpful-flutter-buddies

it was painful
thank you for your sacrifice, I’ll never forget you 
I still got out of there faster tho hehe
I’ll take that as revenge
next time you gotta play it cool and drag da leggy instead 
Or bonk tha heddy into rock till the rock says go 
Although, we should take a knee for all those poor souls who've tried to get into pineswood in beta, normally 
Those poor souls 
I don't know if I should ask here but I have been filing bug reports where my sky kid will blink (glitch) as I enter sanctuary for beta (and this problem is present in live ;w;) but it seems like it's not being fixed after several updates as well orz. Should I try re-installing beta app or should I wait till the dev figures things out for the next update?
It’s best to wait for the next update, fixing bugs can be very complicated. There’s a lot of different factors as to why a bug you’ve reported hasn’t been fixed:
- might be a lower priority compared to another bug that seriously/severely affects the gameplay of a ton of players
- it might be only happening to people with certain devices, which is a head scratcher and devs gotta figure it out
- there’s seriously a ton of bugs to deal with and with a team of 30ish people, they have to spend hours working on each one
- working from home also affects communication between the team
so please don’t feel ignored or discouraged that a bug you reported earlier hasn’t been dealt with
as long as it’s reported in the correct channels, the devs are aware of it and will get to it when they can 
I just hope it's fixed soon ;w; I know it's a hard time for everyone but it's been a issue that has been bothering me ever since the release of sanctuary
But I kind of think it is my specific device going through this bug since the other phone I use seemed to be fine, considering how it have lower specs
I’m curious, is happening only when you enter the map? When does it stop flickering? 
It is happening when I enter the map only, it will start when I get close to the edge of the cliff when you first enter the map and it will flicker until I get to the main island. I figured out that when I jump from the cliff and dive to fly in a lower altitude, the flicker is lessened

Oh yeah, on the subject of bugs, has anyone else seen that when holding hands sometimes the person you're with randomly falls off? Specifically in Sanctuary, but I also had it happen in ark. 
I was considering reporting it but wanted to get a video first
Little hard to replicate though
We should have a fix for the flickering in the next build. 
oh, if you shake your left hand joystick left and right erratically then the person holding onto you will fall (you have to be in glide mode*) @cobalt hare
@rocky solar the thing is that I don't think I'm being erratic? I speedrun almost everything, so that might be why.
sudden change from left to right counts
I wonder why this bug is specific to sanctuary though, because it never happens anywhere else
so i guess it could have happened while you were speed running
True
OHhh
there is actually a bug in sanctuary that makes people to not be able to hold hands for long time
the crab cave spirit is the one causing the problem, that thing keep activating and makes people not be able to hold hands
I think it's probably because of the light source, since light source breaks the hand hold(in this case that effect is affecting everyone in that particular server with the bugged spirit)
YES, THAT'S EXACTLY IT!
It starts with the cave and then affects me the rest of the time I'm there
One solution I found with a friend is the piggyback, that action doesn't allow to break the hold between friends, but it should be fixed ㅜㅜ
Thanks for the tip 
I noticed that bug only happen with carry quest spirit. (Play fight emote in ark and belly rub emote in Sanctuary)
And yes, piggyback is immune to that bug
update!
Update 


the classic bugfixes and improvements
We love a good bug fixes and improvements
There's a beta update?
Yes, for iOS so far, it's Sky Beta Version 0.10.2 (Build 152604)
Knowing android it'll be another hour or so before it hits the playstore
I see
Thank you for the info
Ah, finally some bugfixes and improvements! 
oh no... I just ... finished getting all the data for beta vs live the battery comparison 
and now it’s for a build behind. oh my god 
Huh, build still isn't on the playstore yet...have we been bamboozled?
Not yet
No ping either 0.0
Ktjn do you still want the battery stress test for beta build (152126) vs live build (152154)? 
The full run ran continuously from: Isle > Prairie > Forest > Valley > Wasteland
Data gathered:
-Battery & Temperature before and after each realm run
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of total players on map and # of players I lit up, roughly their activities/paths/appearances, will be added to the maps provided in last bug-report
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time stamps for all maps, to be added fo the gsam battery graphs I got. So 10 of those in total.
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Along with 2 full overview graphs for the entire run’s battery/temp performance
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overlays of beta vs live graphs can be done
the build is available
has been available on gplay for half an hour but its availability might depend on your region
Sometimes my phone requires a restart to show =_=
Nope, not available as of yet in my store
Got it!
It's out

hi there, havent been keeping up with the current season for abit, does anyone know what completing the bells do?
(im not in beta, just wondering whether its known if completing bells has the same content unlocking stuff as in enchantment)
Just gives you hearts and cut-scenes, as far as we know. Unless they add something that's not in beta.
i see, thank you
@mint estuary hi! Could you please delete your emojis. This channel is for discussing beta content and player experiences.
Just woke up to a shiny new update in the playstore
anyone figure out what was changed yet?
it's true, the mantas in Prairie village don't kidnap you when you light candles/burn darkness there!
that's cool!
I had no idea there's an update.
Time to... see if the prairie temple mantas kidnap me or not.
So I’m curious, am I the only beta player who uses a controller?
Besides maybe Tara? (Taras sky journey YouTube channel)
Aeras, alot
The social media constellation is gone too
I also tested the manta kidnapping. So far I’ve been kidnapped by both mantas that’s fly through the right island and center island when I remain next to the lit white candles
I was also kidnapped by the right island manta when standing on top of the bell (photo in #beta-screenshots-videos to clarify), but was not kidnapped by the center island manta while standing on top of the bell.
Should I bug report, if most people aren’t experiencing kidnappings at all?
i did some further testing in both live & beta, and it's actually nothing new
previous build 4 mantas hovering, new build three.
the 4th manta is hovering up high for some reason, i spotted it
Before update it was hovering with other 3
exactly, it ascended into a different plane
Just saw your vids dark. Idk why I was kidnapped nearly every time I tested.
not moved even an inch?
that's weird, slight movement does get me kidnapped though
..honestly I’m gonna send in feedback and request less manta-napping. Would be nice if the effect had a timer or something and only turns on after they’ve started circling in the center. But idk, who knows what’s the easiest/most practical fix through the coding 
Why must I quake in fear when I hear that call in the distance lmao
It would certainly be nice to be able to move around and burn stuff rather than pause everything to either fly up or stay perfectly still
LOL so my theory is: either the local animals are very helpful or they just want to yeet us outta their realm
I do appreciate that cutscene skipping is now working in that area.
Update: Worked just once, subsequent attempts did not skip.
Maybe bc the local animals are made of light and the children consume light 
considering you get yeeted so far up when you try to escape manta-napping, i think it's the latter
Omggg I gotta hop on and see that later. I’ve been dying for that fix
I hated that the unskippable cutscene made me low-key resent other players for tripping it... even tho it’s not malicious. I hated that I felt that way on a daily basis.
Well it’s definitely frustrating. I didn’t notice that they changed that, I’ll have to check it out
I don’t wanna hate on curious moths for just being curious. They don’t know what they’re putting other people thru. Or that other players have different burn order preferences
I got very good at burning all the darkness without lighting the candles. A skill I am happy to dispense with.
does it really skip properly? i just tested it out and they are still present. do you have any recordings of the proper skip?
I can try it again and grab a screen recording. Maybe it was a fluke
keep in mind, the only cutscene that's currently skippable in that area is the last cutscene
Yeah, it was the first two that skipped properly earlier. Not so much when I tried again just now. Sorry to get everyone's hopes up.
that's a shame... but thank you for checking again 🙏
Welp I’ll take some happy glitches and skips over none at all!
Thanks for checking twice
I will remove the link from #beta-screenshots-videos
Sorry for the ping.
Bug fixes and improvements 
@minor robin no obligation to finish the full run, but feel free to submit the temp data you have, QA is still interested in compiling it for historical data for future comparisons.
I’m in too deep right now, 6 spreadsheet tabs and 12 timelines 
I’m pretty much establishing templates so next builds all I’ll have to do is input data and it’ll update itself
Haha, QA will be thrilled tbh.
I’ll submit what I have, then tomorrow or in a few days I’ll do another run in beta to match the plant rotation 
maybe the team could code in a benchmark? it might be possible to reuse the cutscene tech so the path is kept constant every time
The reason some cutscenes are skippable and others aren't has to do with how they were built into the engine. The team is working on improving this, but it's going to take a while to sort it out and essentially rework how the whole thing is constructed from the ground up.
The ones we've made skippable were easy to implement, the remaining ones are still on our radar.
..Maybe when prairie cutscene triggers... I’ll do something irl to cope with it. Like push ups 
Super thankful that the team is looking into it.

and by cutscene benchmarks i'm referring to these types of cutscenes meant to test performance on different systems and patches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ly6-QrDr3zQ
it would help standardize our comparisons
Also guys: I’m planning to make a tutorial on how to make these battery/temperature comparisons. I’ll refine my spreadsheet too so it’s easy to input times on one mastertable and the timelines in the tabs will update themselves 
Feed TGC all the data

if there was a simple benchmark button, i would be happy to send in my battery/temps/fps data for every patch
||hello does capeless exist to be purchased in beta or live?||
The invisible cape does exist in beta, but you need 99 ascended candles and then 999 hearts to get it, so not very many people actually have it
It won't be available in the live version any time soon though, if at all. It's kind of just an easter egg item
@dreamy grove Apologies, but the rules of this server are that it is English only since they don't have enough moderators to allow for other languages at this time 
Hi majs! Are you new to the server? If you want to talk to other people about the game, #general-sky-discussion would be a great place to start! 
^^
Here's my temp findings: live hot, beta hot.
I havent played beta super often recently though, cause ive been busy IRL, but from what ive played ive seen no difference in temperature
Hello guys is there any beta updates or spoilers/leaks about next season? 🥰 tell me, cuz i got the feeling theyll extend vault a bit cuz theres less candles on that realm 🥰
Hope new season will be similar to rythm, I love that palette colors TvT
The game both in live and beta doesn't only crash when taking pictures in sanctuary but also crashes when changing the graphics settings. The crash can occur if you are or if you have been in sanctuary and has encountered lags, that's how it works for me atleast.
Anyone has a pic showing 2 or more than 2 players using
emote together before Android release?
https://www.4gamer.net/games/394/G039457/20200813053/
kanpai try translate the page
I can read Japanese but want to share with you eng speaking guys
Google translate is always an option, better if there's a similar blog written in english so the words make sense
So in beta before we have seen the whale in the 3rd/4th bell quest. When i was completing my bell quest in my another account with a clone app (i dont link it to a Google account), i noticed that the whale is turned into another mega manta. Can someone explain this? 
First of all, you are using a clone app to have a parallel account in beta? I kind of don't think that's ok by the ToS.
Secondly, I think the final quest was indeed changed in a later patch.
Against the ToS 
I don't see why it would be considering it's a feature built into many OS
The idea is that if you have two people using the same device they can use separate apps without having to coordinate logging in and out. Most of the time it's called "parallel apps".
Smurfing is regular occurrence in most games anyways. Sometimes you just wanna be a moth again.
Even if it was against ToS it's virtually unenforceable, so the only thing that would prevent is us from talking about it in this here official discord.
Someone know how to report a bug in the beta? I’m an iOS player and my game crashes when I try to go to the forgotten ark, before the animation my screen turns black and I can move my character and fly and all (I know that because the sounds) but I can’t se anything
Someone can help me?
I have a video of my problem
Thanks
@cobalt hare Of course I understand that it can be beneficial to have a parallel “moth” account for testing reasons. But the ToS does advice against having multiple accounts for various reasons. In beta, I think it’s mostly frowned upon because there are limited spots available. I’m only referring to what has been stated here on the server many times before. 
:O thanks for the reply belpita and riley
I don't clone the beta btw just the live
I think having a second beta account is useless
If we need to be moth again for testing a new update, there will probably be a progress wipe
I just don't see why there will be the need to test having everyone as a moth in the future unless they are testing new platform or something but most of us are not using the new platform...
Unless they want to reboot sky of course
If any important aspect of the gameplay is changed it would be important for us to test it regardless of platform. Last progress wipe had changes in the economy, perhaps they change something about the flight system or tutorials in the future and want to see how new accounts (no candles, no winged light etc) react to it
With the current settings for access wipe every season. It's quite likely that there will be some new people with new beta accounts to test though.
Ok, may be if they want to test instantly.
Dunno if someone already gave the answer but I remember the 5th or the 4th bell quest summoned a whale in beta... But in live there's only manta... Any explanation?
I think is because as we saw on the last bell the wake is summoned again. So probably they just postponed :)
@spark lance
When will you qualify for the beta
Make sure to have the beta ping role to be notified for when more slots open
We have no idea when that will happen though. You'll just have to be patient 
Read through #beta-faq and get the ping role from there. The next invite wave probably won't come for another month or so though (whenever TGC announces it). Also, you've asked about this a few times over the past several days, the answer isn't going to change 
ooo, Sky beta app freezed
Hey guys,anyone know when is the new season coming? I’m so excited!
Nope.
We don’t know more than you do at the moment, sorry. Usually, testing for a new season begins at the earliest in the last week of the present season.
Got it 👌🏻thanks
Has anyone experienced the moth bug on the new beta build by chance?
Heyo
Not yet. Cosmetics are loading a lottle slow sometimes, but no actual moth bug.
just went to check and got moth bug after crossing portal to treehouse area in Forest
0.10.2 (152604)
OnePlus 7 Pro GM1913
going back to the previous area fixed it
I’ll play some more tomorrow and see what I find. But I haven’t seen the bug in Live either.
I got it in live 3 times afternoon recorded one of them, but we will go to the usual prairie bug places in beta soon, so we will see.
friend I was leading got moth bug when we exited the Forest cave but for some reason I don't look like moth to her whereas our other three friends became moths
0.10.2 (152604)
Samsung S10+ SM-G975F
oh I got moth bug again when I exited from Sunny Forest to Broken Bridge, welp 
aaand going back into Sunny I got it again except this time my Samsung friend does not look like a moth to me but our other three friends do
Im also experiencing moth bug in forest
Actually, I have seen the T pose, though.
Thanks all! that's helpful info. The team is still trying to figure out what the root cause of it is.
@icy falcon do you crash between sunny and bridge with your OP 7 Pro on beta? I don't have enough spirits to test it
But it happens to me every time on live
Prairie, Valley and Waste was safe no moth bug there. Also boat to ark works like a dream in beta compared to live
I noticed that when I run with two or more friends I (or my friends) experience moth bug, but when I run with only one friend ,the friend holding onto me almost always turns into a moth for brief second and go back to normal(Im running back and forth between sunny and the map before the last area to relieve the spirits in forest).
only after last live patch Riley! Hardly ever crash otherwise
except when I get krilled
...crash everytime
Really? I haven't crashed while being krilled before. Interesting
yeah i really hope they patch that one before they patch home trick 
Burning wasteland plants would be exponentially harder lol
question for people who do experience overheating phones: I did a candle run in prairie cave, and in beta I noticed my phone’s temp is fine going thru it... but in live is actually increased a bit. Has this happened to anyone else? Live wasn’t even that busy compared to beta, had 3 shadow kids just standing around at meditation rock, ship and exit.
The few times I’ve been on for an extended period of time, Wyiott, live feels more hot in temperature compared to beta
Not yet.
the overall server load is considerably lighter in beta than live, so even though an instance might be empty, the server that holds all the individual instances is busier.
ohhh! I see 
.. makes me wonder how many musicians are in there practicing but in another instance 
So moth bug = going through level transition, and you appear as moth when level load? Or other people appear as moth? 
Does height change too? 
I realized I missed a word, Cave. Prairie cave is where I had the temperature uptick on a candle run in live, but not in beta 
height actually does change back to moth height!
For me the height remained the same(before the moth bug), but if someone was wearing a chibi mask then that person went back to his normal size.
DrapTap i never saw myself as a moth just others i was holding hands with. Usually only one person experienced a bug at a time not everyone from the group. Also going through another gate helps to change back to normal again. Height changed when my friends had chibi mask on before bug, but thats logical. Since while the bug lasts there are no cosmetics on them so no chibi mask to make then shorter.
I just saw someone made shcemes and graphics etc for describing overheating comparison when doing cr in both live and beta in #beta-bugs-android 
!ts
The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on August 20 at 00:00 Pacific Time (UTC -7:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
!tsbeta
Traveling spirits appear in the beta version at the same time as live, so we don’t know any details in advance
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
Nice

When can I play on the switch?
Summer 2020™️
I think summer is almost over👀
That's all we know
😩
No, no. It's just the rustling of the leaves. Keep moving.
Are there even leaves in sky tho-
Those have died already ☹️
I’m still bothered by the carton looks of the trees in sunny Forrest at the borders
Excuse me, who can speak Chinese
😶
Excuse me, who can take me to the end of Morning Island, I can’t fly without wings
I want to have no wings forever
Excuse me, anyone?
@coarse ginkgo this is a channel for discussing beta. Please don’t post a lot of emojis here. You can chat about the Live version of the game in #general-sky-discussion instead. 
Excuse me, there is someone in the beta, can you take me to the end of Morning Island?
I can send qr and next time ask in #beta-looking-for-group
@silk fjord
Okay Thanks
Dm me your qr code^^
Dark was that you who accepted my candle?
@spark lance, i was the kid wearing the manta suit, manta cape, sunglasses and straw hat
Oh not you then
hello beta people! do you guys know what the next sanctuary thing is about and why it’s in around 20 days?
no idea, it could've been delayed for further development
@lucid ginkgo you can search the final bell cutscene if you paste "from:Ktjn#8721 has:video" in the searchbar, take into account there may be changes in the final live version
Im not even sure if its like that in beta rn
But im guessing it will be an aproximate
Hello beta had a long break from sky recently but now Im back there anything new in beta I should know?
Are you currently playing beta? Or are you just looking for spoilers?
So those moth friends bug thing is probably due to the making of STAR functions of the pins?
It already happened in build 152126. Still happens in current build. Not using STAR function so not sure if that's a root cause.
No one is using the Star feature yet, because shipping isn’t until September.
Except devs probably
If you notice the hole at the ball in the office, I doubt that has to do with the pins.
Draptrap: nah I'm just that extra lmao
I am still working on the spreadsheet, all the info above the map is actually a screenshot from my spreadsheet. All I gotta do is input info in a big table on the first tab and everything else afterwards updates. Hopefully when it's done I can figure out a good safe way to let other ppl download and use.
Biggest cross platform hurdle tho.. Is that iOS does not have any free apps that measure internal temp and provides temp VS. Battery% graphs as detailed as android 
I guess... If any ios people want to be extremely extra they can get a temperature gun and literally aim it at their phone screeen in a consistent spot to measure physical temp
My uncle had one for bbq and cooking... Maybe see if any one u know has one 
surprisingly, after 4 hours of playing on live and beta, my phone is not an oven and is still alive. but 30 minutes standing still in valley is too much and it becomes an oven. 
Def bug report that and take a screenshot of where u were standing 
update!
Yay!
UPDATE
- Reverted some changes made in patch 0.10.2 to water rendering that had some unintended effects
- Revisions to a number of Korean translations for clarity, grammar, and consistency.
- Winged Light statues in Eye of Eden should no longer cause crashes
- Fixed flickering graphics issues
- Fixed crash when trying to take screenshots
- Reduced memory usage, resulting in fewer crashes on lower end devices
updoot
I wonder what qualifies as a lower end device
A device that runs the game basically crying asking for mercy
I wonder what qualifies as a lower end device
@olive tide my device can be a "lower end device" imo
It crashes at "the cursed gate" at forest and I have server splits often, atleast in live. I haven't tested it if I have same issues in beta yet
did a quick run through Forest and some of Valley and Wasteland on the new build and didn't get moth bug even once!! Cosmetics load slowly but they do
I'll test if "the cursed gate" issue is resolved
Edit: my game didn't crash but better to try it in a more crowded server
are you on ios or android?
iOS
ah, can't help you much there. i'm an android player ->-
but you could explain what's happening when you try to update?
TestFlight said isn’t have any app to update but although I have notifications about beta 10.2
I’m Vietnamese
So what should I do
@mossy meteor make sure you're signed in into the right apple ID
update today?
Had been Android beta fixed already?
I dont think so as I still cant download it even tho Im beta tester
We never received a response from Google other than they were aware of the issue.
I’m sorry, what is this “cursed gate” that you’re talking about crescent?
Is it the one at the top of the caverns that doesn’t open sometimes 
So those moth friends bug thing is probably due to the making of STAR functions of the pins?
That bug is completely unrelated to anything with STAR, the pin features only exist on internal versions of the game and are not included in the Live or Beta code at this time.
I think the cursed gate is somewhere in Forest that has been causing issues lately. The vast majority of crash issues are GPU- and memory-related issues based on your device's capabilities. Sky is as demanding as some PC and console games when it comes to graphics and when your device reaches its performance limit, the game will crash to protect any damage from occurring or your device freezing up due to lack of memory.
The caverns gate fails to open sometimes.
Me: updates game
Game: theres a new update
Me: but I already did-
Yeah, I can understand how appearance-wise it seems related, but it's actually an issue with the server "forgetting" what your character's appearance is temporarily because it cannot access the information so it reverts to a default/placeholder state until it can retrieve the information from the server once again.
Oooh that’s interesting
Oh interesting
Ah, so that would also explain why the game showed me as a moth with no worlds unlocked during the loading screen
So we literally all are buff moths deep down inside 
Buff moth is the default
yep! It's a similar default logic as the game loads/pulls information from the servers.
I know this is a little off topic, but is there anything about the switch version? I wanna play with my friendo 
I updated my game but it won't let me play because I'm not up to date? But I am?
I hope that the instrument can show its name when it is worn
I can't wait to do another Cr run on beta, the live info i have is still good for comparison 
When will the prairie elder pins comes out again? Since it's sold out now? @vapid briar
Oooh yay! Pls share your results w us again wyiott

I'll do an overlay VS. Previous beta build too cause why not. More info/data
I have submitted Prairie yesterday, tonight it is forest and maybe wasteland
I have to draw a map from scratch for valley tho
Casually locked out of the game because the update won't register
I’m sure even a rudimentary sketch can give the general idea of where you are
good luck and have fun!
@storm vessel That would be a question for thatskyshop customer support, they're a separate team from TGC devs.
Uhh, guys. Every time I force close the beta app I get a pop up that the app crashed and if I want to send a report... it happened since the last beta update.
Should I report this in beta bugs?
I get that too on iOS
I know this is a little off topic, but is there anything about the switch version? I wanna play with my friendo
I don't have any news about Switch at this time other than what is publicly available. We're working on Switch, but that's about all I can confirm.
We've had a couple builds in the last few days trying to test fixes for an upcoming hotfix to address some nastier bugs that appeared in the 0.10.2 patch. Build 152604 on Wednesday and Build 152746 Today.
The graphic seems to be fixed on Android Samsung Galaxy note 9
Can take screenshots too
Nope can't take screenshots
Screen goes purple then crash
I’ve also been getting the crash notification
please please please #beta-bugs-android 
Hmm can't seem to get it to crash when recording though
Just curious, what should I be looking for when burning all the dark plants?
Maybe that bug in which some plants won’t burn?
Hmm.... haven't encountered that so far. Hopefully that means its fixed
My phone is still getting a bit toasty after a bit of forest though
For Real?? It's not good at all. -_-"
I read the Beta Updates. But, that's not good
You read it... but how can you pass judgement if you haven’t played or tested it?
Maybe the fix works for people with certain phones, and might not others. Fixes take time and a lot of effort, beta is probably going to see incremental changes that eventually will go towards a patch that will go live. The more reports we submit along phone info, the more info the team has and they can figure out who’s having problems with what.
Adreno 540, so close 
I was almost usefull 
I didn't realize the Switch's GPU/CPU drops that much when its undocked 
Its almost two entirely different devices 
Also didn't realize it has 5.1 support docked 
Hope they're not having to completely redo the audio to make it surround compatible
Even though I secretly hope they do 
Yeah I was reading about that draptap
But to be fair the switch's screen in handheld mode is only 720p
But you get 1080p on a TV/monitor
grateful for the list of things listed out, makes our job easier too 
I think the switch port has the potential to be really good if they can squeeze everything they can out of the hardware. Helps that you're only optimizing for one (or two in the case of switch lite) device(s).
doesn't the full switch console have two versions? I seem to recall there being a battery life difference between ones manufactured now and previously
It’s not really 2 versions but a refreshed one
Both still do the same thing and have the same processing power
One is just more energy efficient
It should be essentially the same hardware. One is just free of more defects/oversights.
I just woke up to this update and I can't wait to see the bugs that are fixed
Looking at my notes, my phone didn't get any hotter than 101 degrees today, which is an improvement from 105
Still hot though
How do I leave beta testing? I don’t have time for it anymore and figure someone who does should take my place
Thank you
@sharp tusk, to join future beta invite waves, watch for announcements in #beta-signup-info! You can learn all about the beta version and the sign-up process in #beta-faq.
Does the beta season go for as long as live version?
Nope. Its much shorter. I think there was only one instance where it lasted almost the same? But im probably wrong
The shortest only lasted 12 days, but that was because rhythm didn't need that much testing
What is a darkstone plant?
Dark plants, like the ones you see in forest and wasteland
And prairie too
You burn them? And get wax from them like candes
As far as I know, those plants were called darkness. I am wondering if it is a particular type of darkness- like the huge ones or the smaller ones
Any of them. Darkstone was the original name way back pre launch. The models of the plants changed quite a bit since then, so the name changed
Ooh! I get it now. Thanks a lot Aeras
It's called dark corrosion in Chinese Language
Funny, patch notes are basically saying: "Go do an Eden run, recollect your light and do some wax farming. Good old style!" 
And talk with friends and strangers
The challenge is... finding a stranger who's willing to sit on a bench
Only time I see beta player on a bench is for a quest lol
What is the ts ?
We don’t know yet
Okay thanks
😆
!tsbeta 
Traveling spirits appear in the beta version at the same time as live, so we don’t know any details in advance
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
Yay! Go fill up storage with hundreds of pictures!
guys, is there a t.s. in beta right now? i can't see any? but the update says the departure time for t.s. have been updated
!tsbeta
Traveling spirits appear in the beta version at the same time as live, so we don’t know any details in advance
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
yes, that i know @gilded parrot ..
but why the new update is misleading about departure time of t.s. when none have arrived 🙄
Is there any t.s. in beta in any other version or something?
cauz mine don't show any 😅🤣
do you mean the sleepy traveler Ruby?
the one that leads to the sky merch shop
its departure time has been updated because it was incorrect before, as it leaves on the 18th
!ts
The next Traveling Spirit is scheduled to arrive on August 20 at 00:00 Pacific Time (UTC -7:00)
You can read how Traveling Spirits work here: http://bit.ly/TravelingSpirits
Ruby, it doesn’t say TS, it says “sleepy traveller”.
I never had any crashing issues and didn’t see the moth outfit, but playing through Prairie now it seems mostly ok. Phone still gets a little hot on 60fps.
Adreno 506 doesn't support 60fps. 😩
It's alot smoother in Sanctuary Island now
Just a random question but does anyone know when TGC is going to release the game on Nintendo Switch?
soon
They were planning to have it ready for a Summer 2020 release, but that was before the pandemic became as bad as it did and they're still working from home. So it's possible there may be some delays, we don't have any additional information at this time other than it's still being worked on. No set release date yet
Can confirm that live still makes my phone go to 105 degrees. Ouch
But on the plus side, beta only hits 100. So... improvement yay! 
In Kelvin?
In Fahrenheit 
chips will die at 100 Celsius lol
You couldn't hold the phone if it was 100 C!
I could try 
Yeah, that's why I'm asking.
It reached 153F before
My phone. Not sure with other models. Now it's at range so i'm glad
Haha i live in the US, so I normally use Fahrenheit. Tgc is also located in the US, so i use it in bug reports too. Although its probably not hard to convert Celsius to Fahrenheit
Might wanna try other devices if i have time shopping in the phone store 
Hey, for people getting the krill crash bug, can you still do Eden? 
is it just me, or did the new 0.10.4 update make things worse?
cause I'm crashing on every black screen transition
I haven't experienced any crashes so far, but I'd definitely report it. Maybe make a list of every transition that you've crashed in
Wait i have a question so theres a beta thingy about some cosmetic that has a 99 AC block?? I wanna know 
You can learn more about it in the pins!
More specifically, this message: https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/583370574449999880/666801709552500756
People getting Actually Mad in general chat because someone said "there's an invisible cape in the beta that costs 999 hearts"
Or just searching invisible cape in: general-beta-discussion or similar in search
It's a beta only thing (for the time being, at least) so it's just important to keep information about it restricted from other channels to prevent misinformation or spoilers
Especially with a high price, it can be a bit scary for some to have that said to them and it could lead to potential criticism on TGC
Oh my god im never buying that cape im a broke kiddo ;-;
Okay if it wasn't a joke then I'll retract my statement but there's no way that's not a joke right?
Unfortunately has happened in the past, so we are strict about it and I apologize for that
Taking a read at the pinned message I linked above ^ explains it a bit. It's basically a beta joke yeah
Oh its just a joke. Alright
From the pins:
It's meant to be a silly item and prohibitively expensive, which is why there was a 99 Ascended Candle lock tied to it as well as the 999 Heart cost. Not having a cape and being able to fly is immersion breaking and exposes some of the rigging wonkiness of the skykid character model. For the time being, it is only a beta easter egg.
Huh
You can find a lot more context here in the beta channels, as well as in-game to see it in the shop if you have access to the beta, and that's why we disallow talking about it in the live channels
Alright, my bad, I apologize
;-;
Also keep in mind that the cape was added to beta back in January
It’s really not going live any time soon
It struck me as too absurd to be real so I took everyone getting mad about it as A Bit Much, but, I was wrong
Lmao imagine u have no mask no hair and now n o c a p e
totally make sense
the ultimate look
no pants when
Shadow cosplay
Youll look like an unlit moth except with beige clothes
lit moth
Hehehehehe
wohhh kid with no cape
i got thw manta pin :))
time to wear the manta onesie and manta cape and have the manta call call
also i can technically do that cosplay in live 👀👀👀
I got it as well but I got charged so hard on shipping
Was it a joke from the start or was it going to be an actual thing when it first came to beta?
Not everything that gets added into beta is something that will go live
I know, I’m asking if it was always intended to be a joke
I was gonna get a pin but shipping brutally killed me
My dad refused to let me spend $45 on a crab pin
Even tho I have more than enough money, he won't allow it
But jokes on him, I've spent like $60 on the game already and I'm not planning on stopping anytime soon, if I can't buy the crab pin I'll just buy endless candle packs
sorry for interrupting
have anyone experienced app crash with losing wing in Beta?
i heard one of the causes was the total of wings, like this
over 130: app crash
129 or less: safe
i’d like to test but i couldn’t collect enough wings in Beta...
i dont have that many wings in beta unfortunately!
I’ve had the game crash when losing wings in live, and I do have 131 wings... so maybe that’s the reason!
oo! i could try that in live, i have nearly 140 wings but i dont remember the amount
How long does it take to complete eden?
me too, app crashed when i had over 130 wings in live
i think few testers had enough wings and the bug didn’t occur frequently in beta🤔
thx for your info! i’ll test more in live
I think they'd be more pleased to send it to a bug report than to talk about speculation here🤔
Why can't my beta update?
It reminds me that I can't load the APP.🥺
Anyone know of something we could do to help with Switch? 
I know they're waiting to release inbetween seasons, most likely
But we don't know if they're in a panic/race to finish, or if everythings s'coo and they're just waiting for season to finish 
Oh yeah, android released right before Enchantment, didn't it?
So worried that we haven't even seen like a screenshot or a twitter post of a dev playing it on a Switch 
My theory is that they're probably delayed. Waiting for the Summer release date on Nintendo's website to update to Fall.
Think alot of the success of Sky Android in China was to do with how much people were seeing of the game
Back when beta had sooo many people from China playing the leaked apk
Hype and all that 
Guess its different, but its hard to build hype when you don't have something physical to hype 
Sky Switch is still just a concept in everyone's minds 
A demo, maybe? 
Nah, that's silly. A demo of something that's already out 
Oh, wait 
I forgot, most of the leaked China APK players were stuck in isle 
It was basically a demo 
I’ve had 130 wings in beta for some time now (since Sanctuary testing started) and it never made my phone crash. I’m on an iPhone X, though. Isn’t crashing more prone on Androids?
Really?
It’s just my general impression from reading bug reports and seeing comments here. I don’t know?
Yeah android crashing is much more common
My phone is pretty much the latest tech and even I crash

does anyone know what the tgc pin will do? Im asking here cause maybe beta players know-
Nope, only tgc has that info.
The pins haven’t been sent out yet. I think shipping was in September. So no one would know, except TGC. And they also said, features may change or be added.
Previous build I don't have problems crashing when collected winged lights, haven't tried on current build yet.
Just did eden with 141 stars , no crashing. iOS that is
It seems there’s a huge increase in new players again ??
in beta?
Yes , the crashing in eden didn’t happen to me
And yes , also the new players in beta 🤣
it's either 3rd party testers or legitimate testers finally being able to download beta
That would be good news for the ones waiting that long already.
i'm leaning more into 3rd party downloads 
Is it hard to earn hearts in beta? Let alone 999 hearts?
well, yes nowadays it is, since not a lot of people are playing it,
but then again, you don't really have to collect anything either, so...
Most of the main testing for the game, ie spirits and realms, has already been done. Now it's more about optimisation and seasons.
Ello, came to ask if there's any news on the capeless item
Is there a leak of who's the next travelling spirit?
Traveling spirits appear in the beta version at the same time as live, so we don’t know any details in advance
Check #news for announcements and save up your candles!
Dang
@fluid quail #beta-discussion message

Where can I ask about beta content?
You can ask right here! This is the beta channel
Can I ask when we will know the start of the development of the next season?
Well, I assume tgc is working on the next season right now. Beta won't get to test for about another month, however, if that's what you're asking
Does it mean that the next set of beta testers will be on October?
We dont know. I'm estimating the time because usually beta starts testing closer to the end of a season in live
I see, honestly I'm just really anxious on when the next season comes as I'm finding all ways so I can assure myself an adventure pass next season... The current season getting extended would be extremely in favor for me...
Well, I hope you get that adventure pass 
Thanks for answering my questions Aeras! 
I hope next season comes at a great time but not too soon 😅
The most recent beta update is so much smoother for me! Anyone else had this? 
Also anyone know if we're still supposed to ping ktjn about the crash video? I'm on irl vacation right now, and completely forgot to send my video 
please ping if you know!
ready for takeoff!
Can always rely on skybot

@fast ingot #beta-screenshots-videos
Thank you! 
Hii, do you know when rotation mode release in live version ??
When it has been tested enough to be deemed stable for release, probably.
Probably after it also gets implemented for android too
When was the bug update channel removed?
still there #beta-known-issues and #known-issues
Ah it was just merged, I see. Thanks!
Has anyone experienced the moth bug on the latest beta build over the weekend? Nothing in bug reports, but wanted to double check with y'all in chat since there weren't many bug reports overall.
the moth bug for me seems to be gone now, I havent had it happen since the new build 
Nope.
But the cosmetics are still extremely slow to appear, so sometimes i started to think moth bug is present.
Consequences for playing in an environment that's too buggy.
I need proper rest before sending reports again.




