beta-discussion

[frosty trout]

Beta: Gets beta exclusive lab coat
Also beta: Putting on the lab coat crashes your game

[bronze relic]

They'll reopen the beta test application on end of March

[soft vine]

They prepare the stuff in advance and update when it goes live. I still hope y'all will be right about that

[urban raft]

Equivalent exchange

[ember ore]

crabs in labcoats! will be so cute!

[sage sparrow]

Maybe it's a good thing beta is exclusive to only adults

[maiden pond]

What about the Hiking Grouch incident that occurred during Season of Abyss? I know that it was a devastating bug back then, but a friend at the time spent a lot of money just to buy stuff from the constellations only to have that reset, but they at least got to keep their candles, at the price of the cosmetics they purchased.

[rugged kindle]

....? It's necessary for beta testing. Beta is never a permanent alternative to live. It's been reiterated thousands of times, plus things don't cost irl money in beta at all so it's only fair

[sudden pine]

crabcoats, as it were

[shy ore]

*ahem. Since I've been in BETA for 4 years, and as a BETA Dreams Moth, with full of awareness. Thank you for everything.
(Guess I'm gonna miss my BETA Meme materials in there )

Sagomay, prepare your Thanos gloves.

[hot tendon]

itll just take them a few days in live instead of using beta info (which can change between beta testing and live anyway) to get it pushed out early

[proper glen]

i'm keeping my eye out for PC beta testing applications opening up.
the devs will know my bug reports the world over!

[frosty trout]

yeah, that's fair, I figured you knew—some of this stuff I'm posting for the sake of the many others lurking in this channel who may not realize that distinction :-)

[lilac solstice]

Are the applications gonna be through beta invites channel? Or is this still a wafo?

Okay thanks

[dire escarp]

Bug report:
Beta update made my heart hurt, and eyes water
Expected result: emotional content
Actual result: emotional damage

[shy ore]

snaps fingers Bingo.

[raw haven]

@frosty trout My apologies, but this an really important question about beta access
Will be the new beta program region-restricted, as it was with Sky Light Awaits?

[maiden pond]

And I... am Sagomay. snaps fingers

[soft vine]

Maybe double that time... I'm sure it will be manageable, but it's still not that optimal

[frosty trout]

No plans for soft-launch style region restrictions

[ember ore]

tempted to get a plushee to DIY this myself..

[cobalt cloak]

If the final send off right before channels close isn’t sago thanos snapping we got swindled /silly

[raw haven]

Nice to know!

[hot tendon]

will these channels be archived/hidden or just kept as the beta channels but locked (to beta players)? for memory/log sake idk if this was mentioned earlier

[late sonnet]

likely locked to beta players only

[tawdry pine]

Here cozu

[eager harness]

So, how do we find the application when it’s open to apply?

[lilac solstice]

That's gonna be shared more in the future! For now we will just wait and see

[ashen tusk]

skybot's sentience scares me sometimes

[dreamy lintel]

Oh nooo the Sky wiki server is in full panic rn they just passed an announcement pinging everyone saying Wiki is in danger

As a wiki contributor, haha im in danger😀

edit: im being dramatic here ofc, we're trying to give feedback that some contributors could have beta access to draft pages before things go to Live.

[proper glen]

let's wait and keep our eyes out on the #beta-faq and #beta-announcements channels. maybe we'll even get a bigger announcement via #news

[white sparrow]

Answer with wafo from now on literally only gonna be three more days of open beta chats

[teal flint]

Since when have I been impatient？

[lilac solstice]

Awww well I'm sure you guys will do great with the new changes it's understandable to be concerned or worried though. It's a big new thing happening for everyone!

[eager harness]

I hope so! I’m really sad about this news and I know a lot of us are. I’m a little confused. I know access is cut off on the 20th. If accepted back in, how long do we have access for?

Sorry for all my questions.

[potent forge]

We don't know yet.

All we know so far is in the faq post. The rest is 'wait and see'.

[rugged kindle]

Will we still see the 🧇 in live channels

[eager harness]

Gotcha! Thank you for replying.

PS- what does wafo mean? I’ve never understood that lol

[lilac solstice]

It means wait and find out

[rich stream]

"wait and find out"

[raw haven]

Meaning is "Wait And Find Out"

[proper glen]

i feel compelled to combine 🧇 with to communicate i am actively WAFOing

[eager harness]

I feel dumb now. 😂 thank you guys!

I’m going to miss playing with this new season.

[tawdry pine]

We gonna be eating so many wafos these next few days

[white sparrow]

Wafo 🧇 is a cool and short way of saying we dont know whats gonna happen and hence we will *Wait And Find Out * together

[ember ore]

i like my wafos with fried crab and syrup

[frosty trout]

We are serving up the wafflest waffle banquet that has every waffled so thank you all for your patience in the meantime! 🧇

[tawdry pine]

Insert that one gif of a woman being served too many pancakes

[rugged kindle]

Now I wish you the best in focusing more into the actual testing rather than squashing all the misinformation and rumours from outsiders in the beta channels

I really hope that it will be less stressful in taking feedbacks and bug reports~

[potent forge]

Also, less outfit requests from non-beta tourists

[rugged kindle]

Ngl I've always been wanting to test beta but seeing all the "will there be invites or how do I get in beta" questions made me feel demotivated

[tawdry pine]

Looking forward to QnH getting "how do I up my chances on getting accepted in beta"

[wispy obsidian]

At least it won't be cluttering the beta chat and interrupting discussions anymore though

[ember ore]

college/job applications be like

[urban imp]

Do we know approximately how much players they're going to accept ?

[proven pendant]

Ya’ll seem really hype to wipe out people 💀 don’t act confused lol

This is hilarious just gonna act innocent ig

[sharp hearth]

The first one I see, the moment I say bye to QnH/j

[tawdry pine]

Nah I'm dragging you back in there /j

[proven pendant]

Dunno but iOS is gonna accept testers first

[kindred tiger]

Our accounts will be permanently deleted, right?

[tawdry pine]

That's the reality of things unfortunately, those who didn't get what was the purpose of beta would often side track the discussion of whats being testing to "how do I get in" or "can I see this cosmetic combo"
With the new system, this will hopefully decrease

[lilac solstice]

I am hyped for a wipe yes. It is going to be super helpful for beta and live as a whole

[proven pendant]

Yeah ofc, the wipe is to start fresh dunno why people are acting like they’re confused with what I said after they listed a bunch of benefits don’t act like you aren’t hype

Lol when I said “you” I meant people here in general.

[candid ember]

Excuse me, after the account is reset, will the bound badge be automatically unbound?

[tawdry pine]

Well, my Android device is a potato, I don't have a PC and iOS is not within my budget, I'm excited for beta to change for the better even if that means I won't be a part of it for a while.

Also please, do not act as you know how I feel

[white sparrow]

||Someone make a goodbye beta cinematic animation i will never get enough inspo to do it||

[zinc wagon]

Do we all need to make these reports, or is it on the “known issues” list now? 😂

[eager harness]

I know our accounts will be deleted, but are you all keeping your beta installed?

[proven pendant]

We’ll wait for you

also bud, I wasn’t even talking to you when I said that. People above my message were listing off benefits and looking forward to the wipe not you lol no need to feel offended

[ember ore]

for nostalgic purposes yes lol
unless uh iOS decides to poof the app... or I need space

[winter bay]

If I run out of space. I may have to delete it

[candid ember]

I am eager to know what to do with the badge of the binding test suit after 3.20. Is it all untied?

[tender star]

Hey guys, do you know where to fill out the form to participate in the new test

[eager harness]

I’m assuming it will be how we will play still in the future if accepted back in.

[ember ore]

it's not out yet, keep an eye out for an update soon!

[late sonnet]

[supportive of wipe] =/= [hype for wipe]

[nova socket]

I am very sorry for the decision that was made, as much as it may be right to want to change the beta testers so as to be able to delete the inactive ones and put new ones, but I don't think it is fair towards those who actively participated and spent time, not only in farming the beta but also every day in live buying the season pass precisely because they liked it in beta, completely resetting the accounts that we have been growing for years, at this point it would have made more sense to remove the authorization as a beta tester to everyone, in order to "start over", thus removing the inactive ones and instead allowing those who are truly interested to fill out the request to be a beta tester without finding their account reset. Sorry for this long message but I wanted to let you know my thoughts.. hoping that I am not the only one who thinks this way.

[proven pendant]

It’s just wording I meant the same thing mb for the ping

[candid ember]

Automatic?

[tender star]

OK！thank u bab

[late sonnet]

you can be supportive but also sad at the same time
hype infers just being excited about it usually

phrasing does matter

[eager harness]

I’m really sad.

[winter bay]

Should we all have a last day in beta party?

[sharp hearth]

Hi Cy

[lyric fox]

Are you guys going to accept this?

[proven pendant]

Idk I guess so, literally didn’t mean to offend anyone btw

[trim temple]

I know these are very different things but it's not relevant elsewhere, Beta going down (even though it'll be back soon) is making me realize how sad it'll be once the live version(s) of Sky eventually (inevitably) get shut down for good

[tawdry pine]

Ah, i understood the "you" as talking to me due to how it was formated as well as being a pinged message.

Something along the lines of "y'all don't act like you aren't hype", to refer to everyone in general would have helped, since English isn't my first language

[proper glen]

yes, because i've been waiting a long time to possibly get into beta to help report bugs
i'll have to wait longer yet since beta testing will be limited to iOS for a bit, but i'm looking forward to being able to apply for testing than waiting forever for an elusive invitation wave

[ember ore]

||can I private message you? I'm curious about your bio (novel writer)||

[eager harness]

I doubt that will happen anytime soon. Sky is still very successful.

[soft vine]

I don't think there's a way to not accept this, it's TGC's decision. Everyone can and should give feedback tho

[trim temple]

I know that; I was saying it'll be sad when the game does finally come to an end (sorry for the ping but messages are getting swept away quickly!)

[eager harness]

Yes. There is only acceptance if you want to be a tester again.

[lyric fox]

but they wiped out the account. If I read correctly, will I really have to start over?

[proven pendant]

Yeah I do that sometimes, that’s the downside of personal replies since it looks like I’m saying it to you only. Mb, ofc I’m not gonna dictate how you feel @tawdry pine

[slender canyon]

How can we get the account?

[nova socket]

Its not a free live ive used to send reports anytime i had to.. and i said that i buyed passes and items in live games of course because i tested and liked them, im just not agree with this decision

[cosmic merlin]

maybe we have to goes to the same thing PC beta player goes to

[eager harness]

I know. I hope we will get many more years out of sky. And no worries for the ping. It doesn’t bother me.

[gray anvil]

I feel like i jinxed it
We getting retrenched 💀

[raw haven]

I kept waiting for pc invitation, but seems it doesn't make sense anymore, the only thing is only waiting and expecting to be invited in NDA beta as security protocols would be updated

[ember ore]

you mean become a beta tester? well, you'd have to wait for more information and for the application form to be posted! You're going to have to sign an NDA (you need to be 18+ to do so) and the Devs will reach out to those selected for testing

[proven pendant]

Yeahh there’s no much you can do but just accept the change but I can see there being an improvement if things were tidied and managed better. They need to improve anyways

[slender canyon]

go PC?I need download a beta-testing sky on steam?

[late sonnet]

(and also have an iOS device since that's the first wave that will be accepted in)
other platforms are later

[fluid charm]

Wait so if we only have Android device then we have to wait a bit longer?

[tawdry pine]

Pc too

[untold tundra]

i have a question, is it true that we cant join beta if we are not above 18 despite being on ios?, wow thats disappointing

[proven pendant]

Yepp you’re just gonna have to keep checking the updates

[slender canyon]

sorry im a moth but I love sky

[agile hazel]

Do also remember you do have to be 18+ to get beta access. Very important

[gray anvil]

I have a cheap ipad to sign up new beta on and can test with controller. Please let me in

[eager harness]

It will only be available for IOS when the applications are sent out.

[tawdry pine]

That's due to the NDA, minors can't sign legally binding stuff

[trim jetty]

Uh hello, what is happening in beta on 20th? i read the updates but still dont understand much

[ember ore]

It's because TGC will require you to sign a legally binding contract - an NDA, which requires you to have the legal agency to enter into a binding agreement... so you need to be 18+

[cosmic merlin]

maybe I can do simple compability test (iPhone 6s player gang)

[slender canyon]

and I need a google account right?

[late sonnet]

all current beta testers will be removed from the program (with progress wiped) + the program will shut down until new testers are invited in through form application, which will be released at a later time

[proven pendant]

Tgc is gonna reset everyone’s accounts. Basically beta is having a fresh start. Things won’t be public anymore and managed securely, meaning no access to beta content in the channels unless you’re a tester, and you would also need to sign an nda.

[fluid charm]

Ngl but i'm getting a bit frustrated with that decision..... i wait years to play beta and now they just want to start again

[ember ore]

Everyone kicked off beta FOR NOW

application forms will come out soon,
you need to be 18+
fill out the form and sign the NDA, Devs will reach out if you're selected

currently the first wave of testers will be iOS

Each new wave of testing Devs will kick everyone out and select a new pool of people basically

[rugged kindle]

• you need to be +18 and above for nda

[trim jetty]

Thank you for explaning for me!

[raw haven]

You can sign the non-disclosure agreement if you are only 18 years old, this is juridical thing

[proven pendant]

Oh so you can’t stay as a tester once you’re in? New batches every time? Not sure if that’s good or not but I guess having people’s different perspectives would be helpful

[slender canyon]

Bad bad. so have anyone can warn me when the beginning?

[tawdry pine]

Look at it this way.
Now everyone can apply for beta access instead of waiting for a random invite

[icy sail]

the 18+ rule is very very suitable I believe, I started playing as a minor and it adds a layer of protection for young people (only on beta tho bc live is for all ages)

[coral pelican]

I feel sorry for the Beta testers who have spent years making content for us non-Beta players. It kept us in the loop and often explained things the game left confusing/difficult

[fluid charm]

Yea pretty fair.... but i will miss my beloved beta sky kid....

[wispy obsidian]

I have been wanting to join beta for so long and now I actually have a chance at getting in and testing.

[eager harness]

So will we just apply everytime a new wave is available?

[rugged kindle]

I've been waiting with very low chances due to the current invites being first come first served and with 1000 beta wanters awaiting as well as me

[ember ore]

"🔹Application process
Instead of first-come-first-served invite links, Sky players interested in volunteering to beta test can apply through a questionnaire. When new groups of testers are needed, applicants will be selected and contacted directly."
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/718595027990741022/1351259539961286687

this is what we know so far!

[proven pendant]

Well I got in beta since the last invite I think 2023? I probably should have helped out more but I was busy with other things

[eager harness]

Oh! I just meant for those that might be selected, when the next wave is ready and that former group is kicked out, we just fill out the next application? I know this will probably be answered. I’m just anxious.

[trim jetty]

Still sob sob for me when i had to said goodbye to my sky kid in beta

[proven pendant]

Was it confirmed that the testers refresh to new ones like you said earlier? Unless I’m interpreting it wrong lol.

Like, would I have to apply again after being accepted over and over

[tawdry hemlock]

Beta discussion channels will need to be gatekept as well to preserve NDA

[ember ore]

The Devs said we'll be getting more information soon, if you're anxious about interpreting it wrong, try asking a Dev? I'm just another player and don't have the answers

[proven pendant]

Yeah they will be, the channels will only be able to be accessed by testers rather than in public

@.dddd. oh lol okay, it seemed like you knew some info on it, that’s alright

[olive stag]

Beta was a way to test stuff and see if it was worth real money

[eager harness]

That shouldn’t be why you are a tester.

[tranquil vine]

You can do the exact same on live now

[agile hazel]

That is not the purpose of beta. Beta is to test if content works and should go live

[lunar cedar]

I've already slack off, we players are discussing this matter, they are complaining about tgc's operation, "I want to reduce Flower cost and achieve the purpose of testing the game, this abacus! "

[rugged kindle]

There are aviary and closet previews and trial spells in live

[proven pendant]

Yeah but that’s a common motivator for people who wanted to join beta lol. Not saying everyone did but I saw it a bunch

[lyric fox]

what i regret is the brainchild there for years, even though the live version i still throw my salary into buying game items... this is hard to overcome

[eager harness]

Oh I know. I think this new policy will calm a lot of things down.

[agile hazel]

That's why the new beta system is better. It'll only allow in actual testers, getting more feedback and actually improving the game

[gilded parrot]

We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @lunar cedar. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.

[hard smelt]

Please use English here.

[proven pendant]

Mhm so this new format might actually work out. Yeah al they should’ve done this since the start. Stuck with only testing and feedback rather than another platform to play on. IMO btw

[agile hazel]

People keep complaining about the amount of bugs and poor quality stuff that comes to Live. Now this will hopefully reduce that

RIP Grey

[rugged kindle]

I agree, I feel it should've been this way for a long time, but sometimes generosity can be a blessing and a curse

[lunar cedar]

My speech is only for Chinese players who understand Chinese to see

[eager harness]

I agree!

[sharp hearth]

And this server has a rule to only type in English.
It's not hard to use the translation feature.

[peak atlas]

which is exactly why you shouldnt

[tawdry hemlock]

I feel a little sorry for all the SkyTubers who’ve been monetizing beta content… but tbh not very sorry. I used to really like beta-testing indie games to find new and interesting ways to break them, but I missed the last iOS wave umpteen years ago.

[hybrid wedge]

@lunar cedar The server rules ask everyone to post in English because that’s the only language that the moderator team (and also staff) are able to support.

[lunar cedar]

No wonder tgc was recruiting players who "willing to give up their account progress," but it turned out to be just testing the tester's attitude towards account cancellation

[rugged kindle]

Wdym rip me lol I'm not in beta and I feel this will increase chances of being selected for beta

[proven pendant]

I thought I lost my iOS beta pass when I wasn’t on it for like half a year, but found out it was automatically updating. Did you have that on??

[mystic scroll]

@lunar cedar Everyone should use English here ,No one can be special.

[rancid vigil]

use proper translator at least....otherwise this is just show you are disrespectful for everyone...

[hard smelt]

We are different people under the same sky, and this is where we talk. We communicate Sky together in English, instead of letting yourself express a language that others can't understand.

[late sonnet]

a developer said it was just a coincidence that happened alongside the timing for the announcement of progress wipe in beta
they have no correlation

source: #beta-discussion message

[proven pendant]

Yeah, I heard from someone here that they might’ve tested the waters with that before making the final decision

Nvm

[agile hazel]

Also the new program will be super ultra helpful in getting rid of people who come into chat ranting about stuff they are misinformed or have absolutely no knowledge about

[lunar cedar]

There are some languages that cannot be translated into their original meaning

[sharp hearth]

Still, you should try instead of just dropping a message that 99% of us can't understand and that breaks rules.

[hybrid wedge]

@mystic scroll I’m sure you didn’t mean that in a bad way, but let’s just avoid posts that can be interpreted as judging a group of people based on one person

[rugged kindle]

Yeah I think it's helpful for devs and testers alike. More focused testing rather than going off the rails all the time, which proved a challenge for devs to roll out changes as required

[split wave]

However issue is, is that it will also die down a lot of hype for upcoming seasons and possibly some of their player base (from my perspective ofc) as a lot of the beta players are also below 18

[rancid vigil]

I recommend you to use the translator called "DeepL"

[lime owl]

What happened

[hard smelt]

All right, all right! Stop all arguments about language! This is not the subject of our discussion this time!

[delicate socket]

Does anyone understand the new testing qualification

[slender canyon]

idk ,too

[hybrid wedge]

Otherwise—let’s get back on topic folks. We aren’t able to change the rules about posting in English, and the discussion seems to be getting tense.

[late sonnet]

I don't think the hype will die anytime soon
that's just on TGC to up their marketing really

[proven pendant]

Yeah there’s benefits to the new format but it also hinders players who like to plan ahead of time.

[rugged kindle]

I think there's still some hype, for example season pendant tease and the official post hints I guess
It'll be much less chances of misinformation being spread around that may generate "false hype"

And live is still available for all ages so idk why being 18 and above for beta will affect anything lol

[agile hazel]

Honestly, it'll be better. The amount of misinformation being spread about beta content is ridiculous. So many of us have spent years rebuking false information because of beta players who can't be bothered to understand the content/updates or context surrounding an issue before spreading it

Yeah, I heard from someone here that they might’ve tested the waters with that before making the final decision
This is exactly what I mean

[split wave]

Yeah, TLDR; old beta format will change (no more server ping invites) and will instead be similar to how they did the Steam/PC beta invites, where you fill out a form and they will email you or smth if you make it to beta. And you have to be 18+ to participate because of an NDA signing (non-disclosure agreement). I could be wrong if I misunderstood

[ashen tusk]

I actually wonder if the new system will provide more opportunities for the creator troupe moving forward, without the excitement of public beta, TGC will of course focus on their own marketing as they always have, but I think it would be cool to see if the troupe will get more opportunities

[frosty trout]

Cy linked to my original post, but those are unrelated. We actually have been beta testing a new feature that only applies to new accounts (explained in an earlier #beta-announcements post, and that people have shared screenshots of in the beta screenshot channel). The need for testing that was independent of this decision.

[slender canyon]

Wait a minute,it's means every season begins will refresh all accounts?

[restive pulsar]

Thank you to everyone at TGC for making major changes to the beta test system and rules.
I'm so glad that all the feedback I've been sending over the years has not gone to waste.
I hope that this will reduce the number of malicious testers who make money by leaking beta content.

[peak atlas]

I am both uncomfortable with and happy with the beta changes happening, but my cons outweigh the pros here. euh

[proven pendant]

Oh yeah that was my bad, didn’t know it was separate. I’m just speaking through another person’s words here earlier and cy clarified it

[rugged kindle]

I think going forward marketing team will need to put out more detailed patch notes or blog spots detailing seasonal content like the trees etc before seasons drop

[late sonnet]

currently beta is in the first half of season of the blue bird, it's resetting midway

it does not indicate the schedule of when new rotations of testers will be added in

[rancid lark]

This is the final moment have been waiting for Skykids

[frosty trout]

Ah okay! Well, if nothing else, hopefully that post is helpful for other people lurking who were wondering about that.

[hard smelt]

Personally, I think this change is to collect players who can provide some feedback, so that they can become real testers, not the main entertainment.

[ashen tusk]

That's completely okay and I think it's a common mix of emotions amongst a lot of folks since the announcement

[proven pendant]

But how would tgc make sure that every single tester is doing their job? Regular checkups to see if they found a bug or smth? I just don’t see how it’s possible to keep everyone in line. And well, not everyone applying has the mindset of helping out so they would have to distinguish

[rugged kindle]

Being a non beta tester and have been lurking (and fooling peeps here thinking I am a beta tester lol), it's been exhaustive to see some misinformation about future content and correcting them all the time

[long marten]

Android can't participate in it.

[late sonnet]

the requirement of a tester is not based on how many bugs they report or the quality of the feedback provided
it's just to be able to help where able

and they will be regularly rotated around so there will be a variety of people who are able to assist

[dark sorrel]

Yah, i think it'll be up to TGC and maybe the creator troupe as well to put out hype generating content for new seasons and events. Since beta info won't available for people to find the way it is now, some more teasers along the way might help a lot in getting people interested in what's coming.

[split wave]

I can get that, but I’m just speaking from my own experience. Also beta allowed for an opportunity to play the game fully without the need for money or worry for not playing every single day. Yes, I know beta is purely for testing grounds, and I’m aware that wasn’t the point of beta access. I’m just saying that’s also smth from beta. But I understand TGC wants to have primarily testing focused game.

Anyways, I won’t be saying much else about this topic cause I have the more unpopular opinion

[ashen tusk]

I'm excited for people who have been waiting to test for a while, I hope a lot of new faces get into the upcoming wave and they enjoy bug hunting and sharing feedback because it really is such a fulfilling experience

[hard smelt]

It is impossible to ensure that everyone is online. Maybe in the future, the staff will take some measures to eliminate players who can't provide feedback, but we don't know exactly what it is.

[agile hazel]

Beta chat regulars about to go on an exodus 😔

[rugged kindle]

Not for now, they prioritise IOS for today due to excellent security. They will work on improving security defenses on Android and PC to prevent leaks

[peak atlas]

Mainly I just hope the beta testers will actually provide critical feedback (and not just be tgc yes-men; i see them all over the internet) and I mega hope TGC will balance out their game using the beta feedback. there are many things i disagree with about this decision but as long as it's handled correctly i'll be fine with it

[candid ember]

Does anyone know how to untie you and me in pairs?

[potent forge]

Please understand that the beta is specifically for testing new features for bugs. That means your account may be reset at any time, depending on what the devs need the users to test.
If you want to just play Sky, you can do so with the live version on any platform it is currently released on.

[proven pendant]

Oh yeah I’m aware, def not like an assignment, I’m just asking how they would make sure that all the testers are gonna help out. This reset is to improve security but also to diminish any who aren’t going to actually volunteer right? (Idk if this is right)

I guess the refreshed batches could solve that now that you mention it.

[ember ore]

No, what you saw on chinese media was just misinformation. This specific sky server is for volunteering to test how new functions work in the BETA aka TEST or in chinese, 测试服 server. Which means, this server is for testing items and functions! Not meant to be the actual game! it is not a "test for obedience" as you have interpreted as. The TEST server aka BETA server is not meant for account or inventory permanency.

[solid dune]

I wonder if the new beta system will be tested on the same server infrastructure as live so that there's more alignment with the beta and live versions when there's bugs and issues

[late sonnet]

yep! everyone would get wiped every round of testing or however tgc deems fit
so even if you were active or inactive, YEET

[ashen tusk]

I'm not sure how many troupe members there are currently, but maybe we'll get to meet even more in the near future too!

[long marten]

This badge can't be undone.

[rugged kindle]

Nah I still will exist in SEC

[ember ore]

You need to sign an NDA form, which means you need to be 18+ years old.
currently the first wave of testers will be on iOS. The application form will be posted with more information about testing in the future! Stay tuned for updates! in #beta-announcements

[wooden crown]

I've been testing for quite a while, all I would say is that I'm having fun doing bug hunting and helping the development team to improve the game.

RIP for my account, you are doing well🫡

[ashen tusk]

I am not sure... I don't know how different the infrastructure for beta and live are, if at all... I know server wise beta didn't always get bonked at the same time as live, but as for other things, I don't know how different they really are except for like WIP content

[rancid vigil]

Teacher 《》🫡

[rugged kindle]

Likely separate to ensure safety of live database, especially the regular resets to beta accounts

[ember ore]

I had a similar interpretation of what beta testing is for. I had thought it was for finding bugs...

but it's more about feedback -> positive and negative, in regards to how the game feels, how it looks, your experience playing in the game! I hope this helps

[hardy silo]

me and my beta account gathering dust since TLP 😭 a little sad I didn't get to experience beta properly

[eager harness]

Is your account even active? lol

[proven pendant]

Tbh it’s both isn’t it? Finding errors and providing your opinions on the current look of a season or cosmetic via feedback. This also applies to live feedback too

[rugged kindle]

Yk, I honestly feel the NDA and such changes are very very much necessary. I can imagine the stress the designers and artists having their unreleased content come into public too early, if these iterations aren't even final. It's like leaking private wips out on public

[ember ore]

"🔹For now, iOS-only access
Security improvements and preventing hacked leaks are a big focus for the next iteration of the beta program. Our team is working on ways to strengthen security for all current beta platforms. It will take time for us to get Android and PC security protocols up to the level we need, so for now at least, beta testing will be limited to iOS devices."

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/585611536358440960/1351259428439064660

Android may not be able to help test now, but the Devs are working on it, so don't worry too much!

[proven pendant]

Tbh I thought the early leaks were cool, and it made people excited for it. And honestly, I think the public beta content made Sky unique .. (not sure if there’s any other games that allowed their players to leak future content)

But it has its downfalls too along with that so ig this change is needed

[hardy silo]

yes! I visit often... like twice a year-
saying this out loud I dont think tgc will let me in their beta program anymore 😭 I do my best pls

[rugged kindle]

Can I say that you've been awesome with helping to answer questions

@proven pendant I thought the same, but over time I keep seeing many hacks and leaks...as someone who've been dabbles in studio production, it's very risky to have unreleased content being open to the public and risk any unwanted leaks/reactions to what may be supposed to be wip or surprises etc etc

[livid python]

do who practi beta can get present on live account when everytime test phase done like genshin impact does ?

[ember ore]

While I am unable to help you, I think you mean some sort of function of a pin that connects two players? Is that right? feel free to correct me. I hope my attempt at figuring out what you mean can allow other members of this community to help you with that issue!

[late sonnet]

Minecraft, in a sense
With the "drops" and "snapshots"

[paper current]

beta was the only salvation to help users combat the insane levels of fomo in sky imo. now all users will have to deal with the full brunt of sky's fear-of-missing-anything tactics, especially for choices of buying seasonal pass* or budgeting for purchases. if sky was a kinder/more consumer friendly game game, this wouldnt've been met with as much backlash.

((personally it takes me a few weeks to decide if i actually would want and use a cosmetic and the current sc prices of the game being like almost max means its just not feasible for me to do that during live.))

however i think the change to application and reset beta progress will be good for the overall health of beta. but privating beta content and still using greedy tactics is a bit too much imo

[near cypress]

I don't understand how to make official players excited if you don't allow new beta items to be made public, especially those playing in China.

[final minnow]

If I’m not mistaken it’s a permanent thing

[potent forge]

TGC will post their own trailers and previews.

[viscid marten]

Oh wow so many changes
I think it’s a good thing tbh
Rn too many players outside of this discord play beta not for testing purposes

[uneven flax]

well hopefully with new beta system, tgc will have time to test the feedback in live feedback, im sure tons of skykids has ideas which would be good for sky development apart from costly iap

[timber grotto]

the element of surprise gets ruined if everyone could see beta spoilers honestly

[near cypress]

They will announce it, but shouldn't it be the players who have actually experienced beta who truly have a say?

[proven pendant]

I dig surprises all the time same with new sky events and mechanics. But a warning of an upcoming group ts and their total cost or something currency related would be helpful especially because I don’t farm much and only prepare after seeing what I want

That was what I relied on beta for the most

[hard smelt]

But sky is not only for China players, but also for global players. We can't just consider some players.

[rugged kindle]

I believe from this point forward tgc will release official detailed information ahead of time, like in patch notes and such, but hopefully will be more detailed

[ember ore]

awww thank you! Since I've found some free time, I thought I could come back to help out since taking a lo👀ong break for irl matters lol I'm glad you (all?) found my contributions helpful

[paper current]

that would be nice but im not holding my breath on that. tgc profits off of the anxiety of the players.
has tgc directly confirmed your claim? if so then ill be very happy. otherwise i dont trust it

[earnest pawn]

Beta testing is not meant to be a "preview" for new things. I am so glad this is the new way of doing beta. I will sign up if and when android and or PC testers are invited. So many people were in beta for the wrong reasons. THANK YOU TGC ❤️ This will improve the quality of life of the game immensely

[lime saffron]

How does one become a beta tester? I'd love to be able to help. This game is probably one of my favorites and I'd like to be able to help devs with anything they need help with

[timber grotto]

they will send a form soon in #beta-announcements iirc

[potent forge]

#beta-faq and keep an eye on the coming beta news

[rugged kindle]

Well, there have been very ahead of time reminders for TS groups in patch notes lately, months ahead even ^^

They've been doing great with showcasing upcoming cosmetics in notes, trailers like the recent Bloom x TLP event

[uneven flax]

kinda love the spoilers tbh, hoping with this new system, tgc will release spoilers with pictures... cant wait to see what this year anniversary, event and new season after bluebird brings

[unreal tusk]

#beta-faq and soon, they will send a form for you to sign up.

[sterile sorrel]

Which is a little beneficial, though I may not be a beta player, I do enjoy seeing what’s coming to prepare any CR and prevent burnout

[clear vector]

This bata update news sucks :(
Like, I guess I understand but everyone had a fun time with these things. I don't understand the NDA thing at all, I know people will still share stuff but it does effect content creators about talking about them and changes which are helpful for people who want to know beta things but didn't get into the beta program

[proven pendant]

Yeah I can agree with that, they drop in several events and a group ts without much warning or allowing players to prepare for it. I wish they would communicate that better, not everyone is farming 20 candles a day.. especially as a college student..

@rugged kindle mhm but an exact candle estimation would be nice, I agree that they do in fact give some info on patch notes tho

[paper current]

vague hints dont help fomo. they encourage it

[late sonnet]

and content creators [content] should expand into the live game and other aspects
if they focused solely on beta then that's on them

[final minnow]

Beta doesn’t get traveling spirits before live (we’re 8 spirits behind) nor group ts

[wooden crown]

I truly hope the Beta Server would be better, sometimes doing candle runs in both live & beta made me tired, in my opinion it's not really like "testing" things, more just another game for me to do dailies.

[potent forge]

imo, the best way to prevent burnout is to just grab a few candles every day, allow yourself to skip or miss some days, and don't get disheartened if you can't afford a cosmetic this year. Aside from ultimate gifts and collabs, all items are guaranteed to return eventually. And even season passes allow for you to miss a few days and still get the ultimate gift.

[sterile sorrel]

Which is a valid point

[viscid marten]

Hopefully for those who do get selected for the beta program in the future, tgc listens to their feedback more than what they do now

[lime saffron]

I mean, FOMO kinda helps a business, especially one like this one

[proven pendant]

I thought we got beta spoilers for the identity of the spirits that arrive (group ts)? I could be wrong tho

[clear vector]

I don't think they, or at least the one's I see, only focus on beta things but like any other game news content updaters, they work with both and when it's released they talk about it then too

[timber grotto]

we don't, especially with the last two visits

[ember ore]

There's a new beta system in the makings!

currently you'll need to sign an NDA (you must be over 18+ aka be legally qualified to enter into a binding contract)

You can sign up through an application form that will be posted in the future!

currently, the first wave of testing is iOS only because iOS's security features makes it easier to implement the new testing system.

You can find more information here: https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/585611536358440960/1351259428439064660

[agile hazel]

Presumably there will be members from the creator troupe who can make update videos when allowed

[rugged kindle]

I believe it will be better addressed, too. Too many times many non beta testers campaign feedbacks which is counter productive for the feedback list for the devs, making critical and meaningful feedbacks harder to read through

[late sonnet]

I feel it needs to be emphasized
the beta population is VERY SMALL in comparison to the live playerbase

your feedback in #live-feedback is just as important as being in beta and submitting to #beta-feedback
ya'll can continue to contribute to the game even without being in beta testing

[paper current]

it also kills a playerbase like poison. game companies can and have lived without it.

[final minnow]

Yeah but through the patch notes when it get announced in #news and not beta

[near cypress]

Only hope that tgc doesn't ultimately shift the complaints of formal players onto beta players, allowing them to blame beta players for not providing proper feedback.

[proven pendant]

Mh yeah I meant this those videos help a lot, not sure if the troupe can release those anymore given the new format

[shy ore]

#beta-screenshots-videos message
Let's cherish the moment

[rain delta]

I’m actually not worried about Fomo anymore.
Events don’t need candles since most items are going to use event currency.

Which means the only thing I need to be afraid of is traveling spirits but beta could never tell you ahead of time what TS was visiting.
So frankly, there’s no fomo.

[timber grotto]

honestly i think beta spoilers don't help with reducing FOMO nor burnout cause people are just gonna start sharing so much misinformation and say that their info is "credible" despite the information possibly changing

[viscid marten]

Imo this was how beta should’ve been from the start lol

[hard smelt]

Maybe this adjustment is a better update? Maybe there will be new ways to play, and what about eliminating some previous ways that didn't make players feel comfortable? Give a chestnut, just like the game of finding tokens. I think it may be a little cumbersome. Later, it may be replaced by other games to let players experience newer and more convenient games.

Perhaps it will make the combination of seasons and festivals closer.

[paper current]

nevermind i dont care enough about arguing to walls

[proven pendant]

Yeah, a bunch of us think the same. They should have done an nda from the start rather than letting beta grow into a separate platform visible to everyone. It also made people form attachments to their beta accounts. Beta is testing after all

[rugged kindle]

Fomo for me was worse before ticket currencies were a thing tbh

[hollow dew]

I will miss being so hyped for events hitting live after stalking the beta screenshots haha

[ember ore]

Also, if chinese players want me to try to explain whats going on to them in chinese, I can try doing that, if you guys think that would be helpful (in DMs or private messaging as to not clog up or violate rules of this server) (Just ping @me if you are unable to reach me lol)

[near cypress]

Because confidentiality only allows game items to be loaded directly onto the official game, beta players are in the minority, so it's normal for them to have opinions that can't be raised. Previously, opinions were collected publicly, so both beta players and formal players had the right to provide feedback. Now that this task is solely up to beta players, there is a natural risk of disputes arising from unequal information.

[proven pendant]

Lol I’m the opposite. After the ticket currency cosmetics were converted into candles I felt fomo since I missed out on collecting tickets during that time. Or actually nah maybe it was regret

[rugged kindle]

I feel the same, but I think it'll be less stress or worry while the current season is still ongoing and focus on enjoying the live game to the fullest

[late sonnet]

and the developers came to this decision after...6-7 years of beta testing?
so I think this has been thought over a lot before implementing this change, and they are willing to take the risk and see if the program improves

like this isn't a magical overnight thing, beta has been running for a long time

[timber grotto]

also i think with the possible new beta testing i think it'd encourage players to actually test, report, and actually give constructive and proper feedback to tgc

[viscid marten]

Yeah many games do beta this way, I was honestly surprised when I learnt about the sky beta system a few years ago when I joined

[agile hazel]

They should add a reading test to the application

[final minnow]

I’m the opposite i was surprised other games had closed beta with NDA 😭

[late sonnet]

when you remove people's attachment to old items and instead have them focus solely on new things, they get feedback on just the new features which is what they would want

being hung up over past items with new things should be a #live-feedback thing yeah

[wispy obsidian]

That's the NDA XD

[rugged kindle]

True and thats why it's only for +18 xD

[tawdry pine]

A reading test WITHIN the reading test

[lilac solstice]

You'd best believe I'll be re-reading that NDA like 30 times if I get picked. I will not want to break anything, and I wanna be 100 percent clear on everything

[hollow dew]

I think having a rotation of beta players is a valid strategy, I just don't like the NDA much - I do however understand why they did it. Just hoping they will still allow some creators or users to share approved content

[timber grotto]

grey in their beta testing era? ✨

[hard smelt]

Hello! Excuse me, I have a little question here. Can I ask you privately? Forget it if it's inconvenient, thank you!

@.dddd. Sorry to bother you!

[viscid marten]

This is a really good change, I feel like those who oppose it might just be missing their beta accounts 😭 and though I get it, unfortunately beta accounts should not be something you get attached to

[gray anvil]

reading challenge be like...
Stage 1: Sky tos
Stage 2: beta NDA

[proven pendant]

Someone out there is gonna have the galls to leak some way somehow lol

[late sonnet]

find the hidden wafo...

[rugged kindle]

PLS I want this to happen

[tawdry pine]

Read that like "find the missing pages" type of tone 😭

[tall smelt]

I'm curious about how to apply for a new one. Is it like I applied for a pc to fill out a questionnaire before?

[sharp hearth]

Let my twin test beta yes yes

[nocturne wigeon]

Collect my 🧇

[dreamy stirrup]

[timber grotto]

fortunately i can't join this beta testing, maybe next time but i am sooo busy

[gray anvil]

friend me in beta when that happens

[late sonnet]

Collect all 7 🧇 to be granted a wish /ref

[near cypress]

Maybe they thought only 18+ can have the proper decision for them,who know

[rugged kindle]

It's understandable, but focus on your irl endeavours and you can probably enjoy live game a little more (just imo)

[viscid marten]

I’m probably not gonna play beta, im too busy with live game already
id rather leave spots for the people who can actually provide a lot of good feedback

[proven pendant]

That’s crazy how a whole day is almost over and people have been chatting here the whole time

[nocturne wigeon]

been 8 hours innit

[gray anvil]

timezones ✨

[mental otter]

i chatted here when the announcement was sent at 3am, now it's 10am just like old times

[timber grotto]

me and my photography account need to slay for bloom yes, the music cape and prince pants combo liker in me is winning

[sharp hearth]

yeah and at least the channel is more "peaceful" now

[velvet belfry]

Does that mean old beta player will also become moth?
Even all items be reset??

[potent forge]

Minors cannot sign legally binding contracts. NDA (non-disclosure agreement) is a contract. That is the problem.

[rugged kindle]

Yeah but in a way, the regular resets to beta will mean that you're granted to test for a short amount of time, instead of feeling "bound" to keep testing

@near cypress It's due to the law where only adults can sign legally binding documents

[ember ore]

an NDA Non Disclosure Agreement is a contract. For it to be legally binding, which is what TGC wants (to control people who leak information), the person who signs it must have legal capacity to fulfill and be bound by that contract. Minors (people under 18) have no legal capacity to be bound by the contract

(there are other groups who are unable to sign a legal contract, but the most common and simple and the one in place here for this game is about those under 18 not being able to sign)

[tawdry pine]

Or any legal contract for that matter

[proven pendant]

Break down the hierarchies once and for all I’m sick of em. The amount of times I lit someone on beta just to have them avoid me is wild.

I’ve had this happen to me in beta more times than I’ve ever had in live

[viscid marten]

Maybe in like two years when ill be more free irl then lol

[rugged kindle]

I have a plenty of free time as a freelancer ngl tgc hire me as a illustratior intern or whatever/jkjk

[icy sail]

will we need a form of identification to sign the NDA is what I'm thinking, I have a license to use

[whole helm]

but if this is a legal contract, do we need to provide any personal documents? (like for proof I’m 18+)

[proven pendant]

Yeah that’s my concern too. I don’t think I can relax anymore and always have 200+ candles in my arsenal

[cosmic brook]

Am I the only one very puzzled by TGC's decision to implement this change before setting up the Android and PC protocols?
Leaving the platforms with the most variety of hardware without proper beta testing seems a bad idea

[hard smelt]

Friends who stayed up all night, it's time to have a rest. I hope you can give the staff some better suggestions about the test suit!

[rugged kindle]

They've been announcing future events and Group TS few months ahead of time in patch notes so I believe this is a direction they're going for from now on

@cosmic brook IOS has the most secure protections so they have to focus on those while setting up hardware defenses to prevent leaks onto Android and PC, then will be made available later

[mental otter]

the better thing is for tgc to announce ahead of time, just like what other people have mentioned earlier of having more teasers released and giving out more detailed information in patch notes. otherwise more players will be susceptible to burnout. this can include more transparency in igc & iap prices

[ember ore]

you're not the only one!

also @hard smelt I've sent you message in DM/private message if you want to ask me questions there, I'm available!

[icy sail]

it's funny because all of these announcements have been at a timely matter for me in Australia 🇦🇺 all of you guys must be exhausted! it's only 1.40 pm here

[sharp hearth]

Probably yeah, but all we can do is wait for more specifications

And also, Grey, I hope you get to test beta wish you luck

[slate heron]

I think it's a good thing for change, I don’t wanna see any hacker come again and post the things before beta testing

[velvet belfry]

Not sure if thats a good decision if reseting all cosmetic that players used to have it

[viscid marten]

That’s true, usually ios has the least problems

@velvet belfry imo it’s a good decision, so that players can’t get attached to what they had and can focus on current items in testing to provide more feedback

[near cypress]

Anyway,I just hope I can have one.

[icy sail]

although cosmetics are nice, we all knew a reset could happen so being attached to cosmetics is not something you should commit too in beta (even though they are nice XD)

[vast kindle]

I would like to ask, when will the questionnaire for Android and PC be launched?

[viscid marten]

I’ll miss my days of sunlight marshmallow stick though, bought it before it changed to the entire rack so I only have the stick in my acc and not the rack

[ember ore]

If you mean your live account aka the actual game, then TGC is not actually resetting that account.

If you mean BETA, aka TEST server, then yes TGC is resetting to better conduct testing, and make the actual game server's experience better! It's understandable you and other players are sad about losing their accounts!

[candid ember]

Ok, thank you very much.

[icy sail]

being a moth again will be fun I think! it also gives an even playing game for everyone to focus on current testing items as Cy and many others have mentioned before

[cosmic brook]

I get that iOS has the "most secure protections" (in theory) but what I don't get is why they wouldn't wait until Android and PC defenses are ready before closing down the beta program.
Feels like they either don't care as much about beta testing Android and PC or they were in a hurry and rushed it

[velvet belfry]

Agree tho and understandable, but i believe most player would also focus on current items in testing

[icy sail]

it's due to the fact Android and PC are more susceptible to (NOT ALLOWED CONTENT) and atm Apple* sorry has the most protection against this content (I believe) but I do wish they made the decision more thought out to allow all devices to use beta at the same time

[crisp trench]

I know there have been opposing sides and arguments more so on other sites everyone is acting pret civil here. and I just hope at the end of the day it all works out. For both parties and TGC if they have the player's bes interest in mind.

[near cypress]

Previously, it wasn't said there was a moth plan, but some people's accounts were destroyed voluntarily. Was TGC simply clearing out the beta because it hadn't collected enough accounts?

[ember ore]

part of the problem is a lot of accounts are not actually there for testing purposes, and this reset would allow the new beta testers to better focus on testing the new items and events!

[dreamy lintel]

This NDA thing might actually make it more official for me to add into my CV as a beta tester /j

[vast kindle]

Android, PC: Prevent others from modifying the source installation package

[icy sail]

there was many players unfortunately taking up space that other active testers could have filled, I believe at the time they couldn't see who was ACTIVE and who wasn't so this new system will allow only active players for valuable feedback!

[mental otter]

google beta testing system also doesn't kick inactive beta testers unlike testflight (back then anyways?) so a lot of android beta testers who stopped playing the game still have their accounts

[ember ore]

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/583370574449999880/1351341341858201691

One of the Devs, Sago, said it's unrelated! it's just bad timing

[cosmic brook]

Tbh although Apple devices have the most protections they do also get jailbroken so if TGC is hoping to prevent hacking that's not going to work lol

[near cypress]

However, clearing out the beta and allowing our ancestors, who had been busy for six to seven years, to enjoy a holiday without the disturbance of children might also be a good option.

[proven pendant]

So- I’m on TestFlight since I play on iOS. I wasn’t on beta for half a year and was completely fine? Maybe because of automatic updates?

[icy sail]

also guys, if you didn't see, beta players are having a goodbye session #beta-looking-for-group message

[dreamy stirrup]

i hope so

[mental otter]

if i remember right they stopped kicking inactive testers in ios way back. but i remember it occuring around 2020 when i was also still an active tester (i'm on android)

[icy sail]

I will miss sharing beta content and photos here in the discord, I wonder if that will be a thing still after the reset is done as it's only internal

[floral coral]

I think it's time to say goodbye... I was really need to come back again soon but in a new one and I hope I'm the choosen one again

Promise I won't spoil everything 😭🙏

[rain delta]

Sky being my first actual game, when I went from my Sky to other games, I had the same shock

The one thing I’m gonna miss in beta is my belonging campfire 🔥 so sad 🥲

[icy sail]

just take a bunch of pictures with it, that's what I did

[rugged kindle]

Hoping we'll get the belonging campfire NUMERO TWO

[odd lintel]

fun fact: my beta skykid died doing what my live skykid loved…

Red shards and an Eden run the night before 💔

[hollow cape]

Honestly even tho I understand the reason about the beta all the beta content was what was keeping me interested in this game now that all that is going to be only here and way less announced like on YouTube I think my time in sky is over the main game content ended up being too repetitive and hearing or seeing what was going to come was a way to motivate me to keep on playing to get the new stuff

As I said seeing stuff here is a lot worse than on YouTube since it feels more flat than watching for example nastymold giving us a quick shot of the new stuff

[gleaming yacht]

you're still gonna be seeing stuff though

[rugged kindle]

I understand your concern, but I've seen tgc putting out the future update overviews lately like the 2024 and 2025 overview blogspot, so you'll still be in the know of what's to be coming eventually

@icy sail I wanted to watch but I'm afraid of the comments HSJDHD

[icy sail]

watching nastymolds video rn about the topic I love how calm and understanding her opinions are

[pulsar prawn]

Since the future test server will use a selective account system, how can we prevent account trading, given that scarcity increases value?

[icy sail]

I will say, DO NOT look at the comments it's too depressing and unhealthy. I think this is the first time I've seen the sky community to have toxic tendencies which is so disappointing

[rugged kindle]

Ah.............

[hollow cape]

Well the community has had a lot of toxic tendencies over the years I have seen that myself several times

[languid sandal]

I love how conflicted my brain is with the beta changes.

"This is the right decision, it's very beneficial and this is how I believe beta should always have been."

"But mah beta acc… "

[idle nexus]

I'd imagine the NDA would help curb that, since if you sell your account and that person leaks things then you can get sued.

[copper shoal]

Is the questionnaire application open?

[misty coyote]

i just trust in tgc that communication of seasons, events, and other important things when it comes to the live game will surely improve. i’m sure this aspect is one of the more important to handle, but at least they can focus on catering to more distinct audiences now. i must say i was conflicted, as—i can’t even say i’m a current beta player, but—i’ll surely miss my crusty 7 year old beta account still, i’m glad for this change. it’s a real initiative that i genuinely feel will introduce some big changes.

the only thing i’m really sad about are the beta spoil accounts; they helped me decide what looked good on my skykid early on

[icy sail]

hmm.. that's not great news, I've usually stayed out of the drama as I love the game and the people who play too much, just don't look at the aggressive or rude things and take opinions at face value is what I tell myself

[pulsar prawn]

This is indeed a solution.

[velvet belfry]

Is it true that the "moth plan" are just for the player who are volunteer or forcibly to all player?

[hollow cape]

That's my concern seeing the stuff before hand actually helped me decide to save some extra money in case I liked stuff now I will only know if I keep and keep looking at discord which I rarely do since most of the stuff gets lost easily because there are a lot of messages

[potent forge]

There was a thing that the devs tested recently where they asked a handful of the beta players to reset their account progress to moth. Now, they have announced they will change how the beta works, and all accounts will have their progress reset.

[icy sail]

I'm sure once they implement all these new things, they'll go back and perhaps add old features again like allowing content creation and sharing, however it's all so early and 🧇
I did say to my friend on sky that this might be really good as the bugs are quite bad and to really reset and change things in the game could be so beneficial for everyone!!!

[hollow cape]

For me is kind of difficult seeing TGC handling this properly seeing how they had a lot of troubles communicating stuff before and even today that's one of their biggest weak spots

[prime blade]

is beta gonna be available on ios only for now?

[misty coyote]

that’s why i mentioned that i think the communication on tgc’s part will absolutely improve once this gets implemented. i’ve come to think of it like it’s not gonna be beta spoil accounts posting spoilers but rather tgc themselves in a sense

i really do believe this will result in a much more harmonious game experience and i’m willing to sacrifice my favorite spoilposters for it

[dreamy lintel]

Yesss tgc will have more control in what and how infos get communicated to the public

[hollow cape]

Well only time will tell for me sacrificing spoilers is a big part for me staying in the game i just hope this doesn't end up having a negative impact on the community and the game quality

Especially on android since tgc seems to mess up that version quite a lot

[rugged kindle]

Exactly! And tgc can "leak" (not really lol) on their own freely

[icy sail]

we'll have to rely on teasers and posts from TGC from now on beta soldiers!

[rugged kindle]

So we'll have a streamlined information for what's coming for sky and it will generate better discussions and community interactions in the future. As of late it's been quite bad with misinformation, leaks, hacks and ill intent behaviours

Now I can see the positive impact in the coming time. No wonder the closed beta is a norm for many games

[placid iron]

welp rip beta chats ig 🫡

[hollow cape]

Just hoping the android builds come out free of bugs during the period only ios beta will be available i still remember the many times beta bugs made it live

[ember ore]

its only for volunteers, also see:

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/585611536358440960/1344845407129174026
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/585611536358440960/1346540638958784544
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/585611536358440960/1347269326159347743
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/585611536358440960/1349577814420095066

[icy sail]

I've had to personally talk to stelify to report leaks and it's not fun! besides some of them on Instagram for example, spoil it for people who WANTED the surprise and weren't actively speaking out spoilers ):<

[rugged kindle]

Same, I've been regularly reporting the leaks and it's,,, exhausting 😭

There's so many posts that don't even have beta spoilers sliders and just outright putting unfinished info

Also even BEFORE Moomin season came to live, I've seen posts promoting Moomin iap sales which is absolutely and totally a pure scam

[ember ore]

https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/583370574449999880/1351341341858201691

and its UNRELATED Just putting this out there for those of you who may think it's related

[icy sail]

and usually they don't even have the correct information so it's just informing people with misinformation however for stuff that isn't leaks like confirmed content I will miss that

[rugged kindle]

Likewise, I'll miss that part, however I think I would be able to look forward to future changes and be surprised by the new content

[hollow cape]

Im just worried this will mean less feedback for TGC since there aren't many spots for ios beta unlike android or the ones in pc

[modest junco]

So wait, beta testers can't discuss about the content in beta here? I thought it is allowed in their official discord channels..?

[ember ore]

I also typed up a short summary of the new beta update in chinese, so for any chinese speaking players who are confused, ping @ me, and I'll send you a text copy of the summary. (don't want to clog up this channel)

@modest junco In the future tests, only the active testers will be able to discuss here.
(By active I mean whoever is testing the current season or events at the time)

[rugged kindle]

I'll have to rest for now, thanks peeps for the discussion

Fingers crossed I can join beta with you guys eventually

@hollow cape no TGC will be able to read through feedbacks more efficiently (and they still take live feedbacks, bc live is always a priority)

[icy sail]

we're still unsure atm, in the blog they mention it will be solely discord based, but for now I believe they'll close the channels 🧇
(my typos lol)

[modest junco]

So some of us will be removed from these channels
No more beta info... 💔

[icy sail]

I think we all will be removed and added back IF we get accepted into the program.. that's only for apple users for the time being too!

[ember ore]

You can apply to be a tester again! but yeah I get it, I'll miss these channels too, and the people here!

@sterile sorrel currently yes, in the future, no

[rugged kindle]

I will say, I used to live without knowing any beta spoilers as a moth and I will survive just fine. I remember I was blown away by the first AURORA quest the first time I saw in live.

I hope I'll have the same feeling coming forward at the moment I'm yet to be a beta tester

[sterile sorrel]

Are we allowed to ask beta questions even if we aren’t beta members here 👀

[hot tendon]

until the 20th, technically yes

[icy sail]

if people can sign up and be accepted again I'd love to friend everyone once we're mothified

[rich kernel]

Just when i managed to get invisible cape 😭

[rugged kindle]

If I am in beta I'll be probably that moth with harp or/and piano on their back (in case I want to test goofiness with music instrument bugs lol)

[inland crystal]

Very supportive. The test suit is now so confusing. The low entry threshold makes the test suit lose its true meaning. Plus all the gift items in it are free to test, so many people use it to enjoy the free version without fulfilling their obligations in the test suit

[unreal tusk]

Since the ending is coming upon us,

What's your best memories for you or with your friends on beta?

[rich kernel]

Finding english speakers 🤣

[rugged kindle]

I feel the pain,,

[quartz moat]

I joined beta in the end of TLP season I liked to be a beta tester, get things free and test it before come to global version, I spent 3 years cr, saving candles and trading hearts to get all stuffs.. so, you gonna tell me that all these was nothing??? Seriously I'm so sad now 😔

[light moss]

My favourite is getting thrown around by that monster in Prairie mountains

[stoic meadow]

Okay I've been playing sky from 2019 october, and this is the second time I'm so dissapointed in devs decisions. Like I feel sick to the stomach rn, and leaving the game for good. I already did 2-3 years ago. Came back and guess what happens. Even android players are not welcome to test. If tgc really wants to test security they should be starting with andoid since it's so "fragile" to hacking. This is so heartbreaking. What about all my chinese friends that I have in beta... community is good, but devs decisions really have so much mistakes like do you think about concenquences?

[icy sail]

the fact that in my two years of testing I've NEVER met another Australian PLAYER LOL 🇦🇺

[unreal tusk]

Well beta is really for testing purposes, we don't have any choices.

[split girder]

i'm actually deeply surprised by the lack of negative feedback i'm seeing in this channel considering how much i've seen in other places.

[rugged kindle]

For now, android and pc beta will be available later on once it's ready. Please read #beta-announcements thoroughly

Personally I think this is a good decision considering all things thats been happening as of late

[quartz moat]

So they told who join beta must be +18... Sorry but wasn't the game name is CHILDREN of the light?

[gray anvil]

The children in the title doesn't mean that way...

[icy sail]

we try to keep it cordial here and be polite.. we're allowed to have opinions and emotions of course but all the sadness I felt earlier has washed away with the exciting new possibilities ahead!! the only thing I would be upset with is not getting a chance to test once again!

[ember ore]

to sign an NDA Non disclosure agreement, or in chinese, 保密协议, testers need to be 18+ years of age

[rugged kindle]

Hhhh c'mon, it is legally required to be adult to sign NDA, to prevent leaks and hacks by law

[blissful gyro]

I trust you understand it’s for legal reasons and not for funsies

[quartz moat]

3 years wasted for nothing, I'm so disappointed

[stoic meadow]

Even if it is a testing server, isn't it supposed to be still a fun way to test things. If you constantly gonna reset all cosmetics, and progress you get in a game who's gonna even play beta rn? Can you imagine doing all quests again and going through realms as a moth again, no spirits, no wings, no friends... whatsoever. Like the game isn't repeatable enough

[gilded parrot]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[willow mantle]

WHAT THE HELL ARE THEY DOING? I spent over three years working on my account and they decided to delete my efforts and they just went under someone's tail

[icy sail]

I'm actually very relieved because I started playing as a minor and I'm now* of age, that being said, the new 18+ rules for beta testing seems like a safe alternative to keep youngins safe** online

[split girder]

well i can certainly be cordial and polite, but it's surprising nobody is really voicing discontent. discontent can be expressed without becoming aggressive.

i will say that i'm also a veteran who is deeply discontent by this new decision. i know that beta is a way many players have been using to plan for upcoming prices and whatnot. it's a nice system to have. i've never personally used it, but i'm disappointed on the behalf of those who do use it.

even those who play other games with closed beta systems have declared that this is an impossible task to achieve and that leaks will happen regardless. it drastically cuts off feedback. and it in general seems like a tactic to hike prices.

i will also add that i stopped playing for a year because of the FOMO that this game gave me, and i know plenty of players are now concerned about how much they'll be affected by this new update and how they'll feel.

[rugged kindle]

Beta is never a replacement to live, I understand you get attached to beta but it's been reiterated for 1 million times that account wipes will sometimes occur with beta

[quartz moat]

They should do the same in global version too and change the name to Adult of the light 😂

[broken island]

I'm a little confused, are the beta channels also going to close when the reset comes?

[icy sail]

disappointment is completely understandable and acceptable.. but when we signed up for beta we were informed that cosmetic collecting and farming currency could be changed at any given time! I believe beta has been reset at least 2 times over the years so it's not an uncommon occurrence

[light moss]

I assume all beta channels will become private

[blissful gyro]

It’s for legal reasons

[ember ore]

NDA is for BETA, for TEST server. AKA the server they're just testing thins out to see if we like it or not, which means it's not official, ACTUAL game content. Plus, the official game does have a similar agreement, "Terms of Service" and Privacy Policy" bound via a clickwrap agreement.

[light moss]

I am surprised that a reset wasn’t done sooner.

[rugged kindle]

Same, given how rampant the negative outcomes when it comes to open Beta test for the past year

[broken island]

In my opinion, I think it's not so bad, maybe this way people won't lose their excitement about the new things that will come in the future¿?? I just want to be positive about it

[lilac solstice]

Yeah it is a bit surprising. We even had a crazy currency bug and we weren't completely wiped to 0 then either.

[desert root]

Anyone else just watching this chat unravel in chaos

[quartz moat]

I just don't know why they suddenly do all these changes , like they have done that years ago and not make use wasting our time in this game for nothing

[rugged kindle]

Yeah it'll be like my moth days, I had zero idea about future seasons and I loved being surprised and being in awe of all the new content <3

[turbid sphinx]

Me, I guess? It's fine with me though, this would just be like the days that led up to the Global release of Sky for IOS back in 2019.

[ember ore]

I suppose its time I put this here as a reminder:
https://discordapp.com/channels/575762611111592007/718595027990741022/813626928484974602

[icy sail]

I believe this was a very preemptive and thought out decision that they have been planning for a while, that being said we did deserve to hear about it sooner
although I believe stelify said they didn't announce it sooner as it would've been like a "doomsday clock"

[sly kernel]

Once, there was an explosion, a bang that gave rise to life as we know it. And then came the next explosion. An explosion that will be our last.

Change da world… my final message. Goodb ye

[lilac solstice]

It's definitely been a long time coming for sure. We haven't even had beta invites in so long, so they were prepping for this.
Also it wasn't a waste of time. Testers helped out with making the game the way it is, and all those wonderful times and memories were not for nothing

[split girder]

i feel like this attitude was a lot more reasonable/feasible back when it didn't cost 25 USD for every new IAP.

if sky is willing to be upfront with their costs, then i don't have as much of an issue with this update, but the problem is that it just feels like costs keep going up and with the removal of beta updates, players won't be able to properly plan for the future and budget

[blissful gyro]

The moment you signed up for beta you signed up for the possibility of a reset, if you want a permanent account you have the live version. Beta is for testing

[white sparrow]

Totally happy for some security for the upcoming testing of the two embers

[rugged kindle]

I think the only thing we can feasibly look forward is for more upfront and detailed patch notes.

Though generally we don't actually know how much iaps will cost in beta like, at all. So it's not going to make any difference tbh

[turbid sphinx]

It has been a great 4 years of hunting bugs in Beta with all of you fellow testers here, both old and new alike. お疲れ様でした、みんな

[hot tendon]

hopefully i wont see leaks as soon as i open social media cause they dont tag it as "beta"

[split girder]

sure, but in the past being able to see the items could give us general estimations of what costs to expect, too. and like a year or two ago, we Did have approximately accurate IAP costs before they removed that entirely.

[late sonnet]

I'm looking forward to experiencing new events and seasons blind again without being spoiled randomly in non beta spaces for sure

The amount of times I've seen people leak stuff in the live channels when things weren't released yet

[rugged kindle]

Same I prefer seeing spoilers in official channels...not the stray accounts aaaahhgh

But now I'll worry less from this then on

[wispy thunder]

In my opinion, for official server players, although there will be more novelty, at the same time, they will also feel anxious about not knowing what is happening and what to do.

I hope the official can release more plans for the future.

[steady glade]

this is so disappointing. idk how yall feel like. im very mad. me n my fri working so hard in this beta for so long and it’s going to disappear cus of leaker n hacker. im so mad

[quartz moat]

I also log in daily in live version, but I liked to experience new things that I don't have in live, like invisible cape, the red flower, portrait mode.. etc also I like to make edits, so I like to take pic/vid in beta , soon I'll not be able to do all of that 😔

[late sonnet]

It's not solely because of hackers than it is also logistical issues, but that sucks to feel

[rugged kindle]

It won't go away, you can apply and wait to be selected as well

[broken island]

Well, we all gonna be moths together

[turbid sphinx]

Some a bit more late than others, but it ends up with all of us starting all over again from square one

[icy sail]

signing up for the mothination was like a predecessor to this whole event me thinks!
(I thought they were connected that's my bad 🤓)

[floral coral]

I heard it's only on ios access but hope I need to come back again on my android soon, I really promise I won't post something new that they didn't know 😔🙏

[steady glade]

idek when it gonna start. what if im not choosen or i was busy n missed it. im not free as much as like before. i had enough trying in past n passable for that. i just dont want to lose our account. ik “if u dont even online why u need that beta”. beta is jus quiet n exciting yknow. im not complaining/blaming about bugs n never but i would like to report.

[late sonnet]

Sago has confirmed the two have no correlation to each other
It was just funny timing

[quartz moat]

They should keep our stuffs that we got and add new feature they want.. that will be fine because removing is not a good decision.
What if we signed up again and they will remove everything after years?

[hot tendon]

beta is not for collecting cosmetics, do that in the live game

[late sonnet]

If we signed up again and they do a wipe, then that's literally what we signed up for when we joined beta to begin with

If items go away then that's all for the betterment of improving the game

[floral coral]

Yeah I think I was wrong of this, I think I should stay in live for more 👍

[broken island]

It's beta, we don't have to be "but it's mine" with cosmetics, we have the live version for that

[icy sail]

I think a good ol reset is just what is needed, skids are complaining about all the bugs but are then unhappy they're going to moderate them

[hot tendon]

if you arent prepared to be repeated reset back to a moth, then yes stick to the live game

[mint schooner]

Then how to apply for the qualification?

[timid valve]

I was surprised they didn’t do more wipes tbh. I’ve tested since a bit before season of Abyss and they’ve hardly done any wipes since I started

[opal arrow]

I wonder how many people are only in beta so they can play with iaps…

[late sonnet]

Tangentially this makes me glad that I decided to stick to a very moth outfit for a lot of my beta testing

I've tricked my beta friends by dressing as my beta skid in live once and it was glorious

[floral coral]

Sky live is my first appearance 😁, I do everything what can do that before so I will stick to live for now, I should wait for next three seasons... I think ios will access the sky beta for now that's what I heard

[ember ore]

Oup I think my previous message to the feedback channel wasn't recorded.... anyone know how I can check if it is?

[icy sail]

I think they send a personal confirmation that your message was sent

[light moss]

You should get a dm showing what you wrote in feedback.

[ember ore]

There will be an application form posted soon, do keep in mind that you'd need to sign an NDA, which you need to be 18+ years old for, and the first wave is for iOS only as of right now. If you speak Chinese, I can DM you a summary in Chinese, if that helps!

@icy sail @light moss thats the thing, my newest feedback skybot sent a DM, but for the previous one it did not...

[warped jetty]

So if this NDA thing means that hackers will no longer be able to leak unreleased stuff that aren’t even in beta yet then i see it as a win

[icy sail]

hopefully it reduces those instances and they said in the blog it will increase the games security

[mint schooner]

When the time comes, how to apply for the qualification or the same as before to grab the qualification?

[floral coral]

Well I need to buy iPhone that can play sky beta but for now I gonna be enjoy to get more friends on live as I really where I'm from

[late sonnet]

A form will be sent out to fill in, it will not be clicking a link to enter

Please read #beta-announcements

[white sparrow]

The game is evolving<3we will either jump onto the new ship or sink with the old one!
I for one wanna sail away in that sparkly new ship

[ember ore]

There will be a link to an application form that you will fill out. TGC will contact you if you are selected. For now, we wait for new information and the form!

[full hearth]

im so excited for beta to actually be the earliest kind of spoilers and not random post on insta

[golden sparrow]

Guys I renounce my beta account…. 😈😈 (gotta let go or I might cry when it disappears)

[icy sail]

don't buy an iPhone just for this purpose that is too devoted!! >.<

[fading lily]

I understand the choice of TGC. Although I am nostalgic for beta, the current method will be a better choice for TGC, and I hope that Android can also join the test in the future.

[white sparrow]

Ayo imma go around friending everyone i have around 485 candles left to spend XD

[jade veldt]

OMG The sky is falling💀

[late sonnet]

They will open availability for Android and PC later, we just gotta wait as everyone who's a regular beta enjoyer is already used to

[golden sparrow]

Idk if I’ll sign up for the beta testing after this though I am a very busy person now.. perhaps I will perhaps I won’t (I might depending on how they work out that we’re over 18)

[warped jetty]

True! I love this decision too because i’ve been a beta tester since forever so i already know what comes to live beforehand, but now i’d love to get surprised on what the events offer when they hit live🫰🏻

[floral coral]

I'll wait then... But I want to come back as a moth... But I think it's okay if I need to rest for awhile, I stay on live for yall

[verbal topaz]

It’s not about "improving testing" at all—it’s about controlling the player base in beta. No more independent testers, no more leaks, no more community pushback before updates go live. They can test whatever shady monetization tactics they want without anyone exposing them early.

[mint schooner]

I can speak Chinese.You send me a summary.

[icy sail]

does china have it's on beta testing server or is it just connected to global?!

[warped jetty]

Uh no lmao they were never about all that and they never will

[full hearth]

luckily alot of us who "test" beta are pretty vocal about it and we can yell at them ourselves if anything goes wrong

[verbal topaz]

Yeah sure

[mint schooner]

That's not meAre all the things you have gone?

[lilac solstice]

That is absolutely far from the truth...there are plenty of games that have NDAs for beta testers, and that doesn't mean those companies are practicing shady business tactics. The NDA will be helpful so we can have clearer communication when testing. This will allow for a better testing experience overall and hopefully have an easier time shipping things to live.

The thing is, if TGC wanted to practice shady business tactics or whatever, they would have already done so. They don't need testers approval to do that

[rugged kindle]

There are many reasons NDAs are in place, it's to ensure security of intellectual content and streamlining communications

[verbal topaz]

I get that NDAs are common in many betas, but the timing and the way they’re handling this situation seem more about controlling the narrative rather than improving testing. Removing everyone from the beta and making it application-only is a huge shift, and it’s hard to ignore the fact that it’s a way to prevent leaks and manage what gets out before updates hit live.

Clear communication is one thing, but when you restrict access and make it harder for actual testers to be involved, it makes me wonder whether they’re just trying to limit negative feedback and test monetization strategies without any real accountability. Improving beta feedback would’ve been better achieved through better communication with existing testers, not wiping everyone out

[late sonnet]

Also beta never gets IAP prices anymore
If you have issue with it, that's for #live-feedback

It's not a beta problem since items are not organised into whatever costs money or not here as a preview for live

[cosmic merlin]

yea, get an iPad instead!

[rugged kindle]

In what I've seen, I don't think I see anything that counts as shady business practice. The iaps have always been like this since the beginning, the 2019-2020 events were iap heavy.

Nowadays we've seen a better balance of iaps and igc items, that's the only way the free to play game can feasibly sustain itself for bigger developments in future

[warped jetty]

Imma just say that there’s this certain player who’s infamous (even by TGC) for hacking and leaking some of their plans, don’t you think that this will help against those who do that? Personally it’s more of a pro than a con but it’s okay if you disagree just don’t assume what TGC’s intentions are

[broken island]

[mint schooner]

Can I apply for the qualification on March 20th?

[rancid sleet]

we should have more info closer to the date the first application will be posted in late march

[unreal tusk]

Well if you have IOS and you're 18+, then yes.

[icy sail]

we shall apply together!!! yippeee

[rugged kindle]

Yeah despite the countless reports...they're still coming back

[cosmic merlin]

actually if there's some kind of rewards (like another version of beta cape) I'll happy with that decision

[lilac solstice]

I can absolutely agree it's probably to help against leaks. Sagomay did mention before that leaks and stuff do affect more behind the scenes than testers realize. It is a pretty big issue in this community.
But that being said, wipes and resets are actually a great thing since it allows testers to focus on current things rather than the old things.

[proven widget]

Will the account progress be reset on 20th?

[jade veldt]

The current beta-sky is too transparent. It has assumed the function of "changing the game content based on the subjective feelings of the majority of players", which is not its function. NDA is a necessary means of commercial protection. After beta-sky becomes closed mode, live-sky will take over this function again, and the subjective feelings of the player group will not be ignored.

[mint schooner]

without

[icy sail]

and they're not correct most of the time as beta is "subject to change" the age old saying says but yeah it's good that this can be reduced and then hopefully depleted!

[rancid sleet]

hello friends joining in! highly recommend reading through #beta-faq in full before participating in the conversation! there’s lots of info to process

[rugged kindle]

Oh really, it was mentioned by sago? If you don't mind could you link it somewhere

[verbal topaz]

Honestly, signing an NDA starts to feel like free labor at this point. They want us to test the game, report bugs, and provide feedback, but then restrict what can be shared or discussed. It's almost like they’re getting all the benefits of community input without any of the transparency or accountability. It’s one thing to want a controlled testing environment, but this feels like they’re just trying to lock down everything without offering anything back in return. If they're going to ask for our time and effort, it would be nice to see a bit more respect and fairness in return.

[cosmic merlin]

and also cutting the cost of maintaining the beta server so they can focus on Live version (hopefully)

[agile hazel]

If they intended to shut down criticism and limit negative feedback they would have done it much much earlier rather than letting beta be public for 6 years

[lilac solstice]

Here
#beta-discussion message

[floral jackal]

Y’know, I’m pretty excited to see a more structured beta as someone who volunteered to get the new “moth mark” and asked people left and right in beta if I had it so I could test it, only to get “I don’t think so / what’s that?” back and then this morning finally be told not only did I have it, but I was asked what it was… I just about wanted to shove my phone through my forehead

Got to admit, the lack of clear knowledge about features we gotta test is frustrating at times in the current beta. Excited for this new push!

Hope to see a bunch of y’all in the future

[gilded parrot]

A "moth" is a new player. They have brown wings, they flap around uncontrollably, and they are drawn to flame!

[mint schooner]

Isn't that what the 20th had? It's all gone.

[proven widget]

So will it become a new moth or so and I have to go through the whole run (from Isle to Eden)? Or just clearing all candles, cosmetics & seasonal passes data? (This will say probably all cosmetics collected in past seasons will lost)

[rugged kindle]

Testers are just volunteers, they have their own in hause testers and QA testers, which are all employeed to do the job when it comes to testing so we were merely volunteers

[icy sail]

while this is true and you're allowed to have an opinion.. I think TGC would do just fine with their payed beta testers only (downsides to having global opinions) but if this whole thing was about free labour it wouldn't matter in the end

[verbal topaz]

That’s a fair point, but the fact that they’ve allowed the beta to be public for so long doesn’t mean they’re suddenly above shutting down criticism. The shift to an NDA and restricting access now is a clear move to control the narrative, especially when they’re probably testing things that could be controversial—like monetization changes or cosmetic adjustments. They’ve had the freedom to make whatever tweaks they want for years, and now they’re tightening things up right when they want more control over feedback. Just because they didn’t do it earlier doesn’t mean it’s not happening now.

[unreal tusk]

Everything will be erased, even entering beta.

[lunar skiff]

rip beta

[rugged kindle]

Well, could you kindly read this from Sagomay?

#beta-discussion message

[icy sail]

guys I'm so invested in this chat I nearly put a fork in the microwave

[mint schooner]

Isn't that playing in vain? How can I play when all of them are gone? Are all the players in the test suit deleting all the blocks?

[late sonnet]

... If they wanted to "control the narrative" they would have banned people who didn't agree with how they ran the game in this server to begin with a long time ago

[floral jackal]

Woah woah woah, mad science is for beta only - careful out there

[lilac solstice]

Okay well, I have to go to bed, but I want everyone to know it's still valid to be upset over these changes. But just know that at the end of the day, it will help out the game in the long run

[rancid sleet]

have a nice sleepy!!!

[proven widget]

I echo that to erase all progresses is pointless, and it actually creates inconvenience for old players to engage in new season updates - imagine that for entering a new season, you'll have to go from Isle to Eden. This is an unnecessary cost.

[unreal tusk]

It's not like gonna delete an actual items in game but deleting/removing items on account and and actual deleting person's account that not able to enter beta.

[floral jackal]

It’s speedrunnin time

[verbal topaz]

True, they haven’t banned people for disagreeing, but controlling the narrative isn’t always about banning people—it’s about limiting what gets out and who can see it. By making the beta access exclusive and enforcing NDAs, they’re shifting how information flows. It’s less about silencing people directly and more about restricting transparency and preventing negative feedback from spreading too easily. They don’t need to ban critics; they just need to make it harder for the community to share what’s going wrong

[late sonnet]

Wdym you can just experience a season with full progress in the live game
They just don't need it for beta

[rancid sleet]

everyone should do a final eden run for their beta skykid

my skykid taking a nap in orbit 😴

[unreal tusk]

I'm willing to join if there's some group XD

[slow narwhal]

and just stay up there in the stars

[shy ore]

Alexa, play The Line as they ascend to Eden for Final BETA goodbyes

[rugged kindle]

Technically leaks is copyright violation in industry rules in general. And these leaks and hacks had negatively impacted the behind the scenes development in the long run, so it's a very much needed change as said in sago here #beta-discussion message

[floral jackal]

I actually wanted to see if we could get the gang together for a final Eden run before things get tossed - maybe one more applicable to people who couldn’t join the other group tests

[late sonnet]

My 550 odd AC increases before it gets wiped

I'd rather stay in home space cuz it's been the constant for me ever since I stayed playing sky

[agile hazel]

Or perhaps it's more about limiting the amount of misinformation being spread about beta content. Every time there's a beta update, especially with new seasons and events, there's a ridiculous amount of misinformation or false conspiracies because people can't be bothered to inform themselves or read basic update notes. Also the amount of leaks of upcoming content that hasn't been added to beta yet

EVEN NOW, there's people coming in here without a shred of context blatanting accusing TGC of wanting to reset people's accounts in Live

[late sonnet]

They've also never stopped players from submitting to #live-feedback about their experience on seasons
Which you can very freely do without beta as is

I feel people need to stop treating beta as some kind of "last line of defence" in some ways

[rugged kindle]

Lately I noticed a random sky infographic stating that TLP event will come on the 17th, it's been reposted countless times so...yeah

[verbal topaz]

I’m done here. Seems like some people are just fine with defending whatever TGC does, even if it’s shady. I’m not here to argue with those who can’t see the bigger picture. I’ll keep watching how this plays out, though.

[potent forge]

I don't see how any of the beta changes are shady....?
These changes are actually rather industry standard.

[jade veldt]

It's time to take a posthumous photo of my beta kid. I've been with him for 4 years.🥲

[rugged kindle]

We can see the bigger pictures and I know what had led the decision anyways. I've seen a lot of cons to the current open beta model lately

[icy sail]

I don't want you to feel upset or anything, we just are trying to understand where TGC is coming from and reasoning with their decisions.. please take care ):

[stray pulsar]

So umm... I saw the news

At least I'm old enough to be a beta tester again but man.

[opal arrow]

I don’t get why people are upset about the nda. If anything, I was more surprised sky had a public open beta, to the point that the beta channels are accessible to anyone

[verbal topaz]

Well, that’s the thing. If you don’t see the shady side, you might be missing how controlling the narrative and locking down access can be a way to hide things that might not be well-received. The changes feel less like improvements and more like ways to shut down any real feedback, which is exactly what makes it seem shady to me.

[rugged kindle]

Likewise, having been in industry it's such an odd concept. Like it's super risky knowing how common hackers are out there

[median temple]

I’m weirdly happy beta is getting wiped.

[stray pulsar]

Rip my sky friends who are under 18 🔥🔥

[icy sail]

I believe before when you sign up to be a beta player you must say you are of age.. forgive me if I'm wrong on this tho?

[opal arrow]

I’m happy beta is getting wiped. I have witnessed several people in this chat alone complain their beta progress is getting wiped, when the point of beta is to actively test beta content, not be your main game

[rugged kindle]

Say that to many companies requiring you to sign NDAs for helping with the development lol it's a common practice, even for my friend who was invited to make an animation for sky. It's merely a normal thing

[median temple]

Oh wait, they can’t sign NDAs right?

[late sonnet]

And it's very fair that everyone loses access
Indiscriminate wipening, if you will

[agile hazel]

There's so much to criticise TGC for, but honestly, it's getting tiring to keep seeing '''criticism''' that's just hating TGC for just for hate and making conspiracies to paint them as some illuminati organisation trying to make everyone suffer

There's like a million valid arguments for TGC being bad. Them being the illuminati IS NOT one fo them

[icy sail]

THE MOTHINATION BEGINS the darkness has come to eat all the cosmetics because they're crunchy

[stray pulsar]

It's ok I'm already at the age of requirement since my last years birthday 🥹

[rugged kindle]

100% this,, and a lot of accusations have no base...😭
I do sometimes feedback my constructive criticism bit never to the point of hating lol

[sage sparrow]

People just ain't used to how normal betas run in games
Been way to comfortable here

[crisp thorn]

And taste like salted caramel.

[slow narwhal]

it can make sense to feel vulnerable sharing personal info with people you'll never meet

[agile hazel]

That's completely fine. If that's an issue, then don't volunteer. Simple really

[median temple]

I see a huge benefit, with this. The only problem is people gotta start from the beginning again and if the devs wanna have them test something specific, they gotta work their way to it. Hopefully accounts are sorta modified to have some stuff done to skip that to focus on what the devs want.

[stray pulsar]

Btw if they like wipe us all out does that mean our current sky account will be gone like our accessories we have in sky are wiped out too and return to moth?

[late sonnet]

Beta yes, live is a separate platform so nothing will happen to it

[crisp thorn]

Naaaa 🤗

[ember ore]

It’s only BETA, not LIVE

[sage sparrow]

Your beta is wiped. All of it

[slow narwhal]

And so it also makes sense to feel a sense of loss towards something you found meaning in contributing towards if you don't feel safe giving your ID away, no need to be stone cold about it

[stray pulsar]

Welp rip my free permanent AURORA wings in beta ig 🔥🔥

[late sonnet]

Tbh if anything I think it's a good thing because it will be actual new player experience with limited wedges and suffering
Not having enough progress is better for the overall playerbase

[opal arrow]

I beta tested for a different game. The devs put in a “cheat system” where you can interact with an npc and get currency, levels, etc. I always thought sky’s beta system worked the same. Where you can just interact with something and get x candles, or x cosmetic

[median temple]

Oh dev NPCs

[icy sail]

this is cool but I really don't think currency is needed with the new shop feature that let's you buy all igc and iap items!!

[late sonnet]

And as has been repeated multiple times
Beta is not for cosmetic collection, get stuff you want to keep in the live game

[median temple]

One thing I’m really hoping, is this allows for a revisiting of older systems from scratch to try new avenues to see how best some core aspects of the game can be improved.

[opal arrow]

Ah yeah I’m not a beta tester so I don’t actually know how beta works. See what I meant before that it’s actually weird anyone can just access discord beta channels?

[broken fractal]

So wait, if we sign up again do we need to register our existing/current beta ID or no?

[sage sparrow]

There is gonna be alot of beta people seeing the live channels for the first time lol

[late sonnet]

It's time for people to

🥁

Touch grass 🫳

[crisp thorn]

Poll. Did Sky live and Sky beta get you through lockdown? Did you make friends all over the world?

[iron elbow]

there would be no beta id left to register, probably. it's gone gone

[rugged kindle]

Live tbh

[median temple]

Tbh, we were warned beta could be wiped at any moment.

[ember ore]

For me I’ll be returning with fresh eyes

also just thought I’ll remind the people just joining in : #beta-faq message

[rugged kindle]

Ngl every time I report some leaks to stellify, I feel bad that even the devs are open for hundreds of dms for countless leaks to themselves and may don't have more resources to focus on actual beta architecture testing

[agile hazel]

Hopefully the new testers are ones who can read

[opal arrow]

Or actually test 🥴

[iron elbow]

we were warned, but it's perfectly normal to get emotionally attached to the things you're invested in
I hope everyone is doing alright in such an emotional time

[nocturne wigeon]

like it's an mlm or something....

[icy sail]

I just know I'm gonna tear up when we do the last concert... #beta-looking-for-group message 👉👈

[median temple]

I’m gonna go chill in orbit till I get booted off. That’s the proper send off

[crisp thorn]

We are beta testers. Not freeloaders. We do it for the love of the game. Sad yes. I’m going to be a phoenix 🐦‍🔥 🙏🏻 where do I sign?

[median temple]

A dev npc for the last 3 days that gives every item in the game would be a fun way to end beta though…

[ember ore]

More information and the application form will come out later in the month/ early in April. #beta-announcements message

[crisp thorn]

Yes I read it several times. I’m like a cat! Meow 😻

[elder peak]

When the beta testing will open?

[median temple]

TBA

[jade veldt]

Can TGC give some honorary rewards to existing bete-sky testers? For example, bind the live-sky ID and discord ID and give some commemorative items to the corresponding live-sky characters according to the quality of the submitted bugs, active time, feedback quality and other indicators?
For example, after the first beta testing cycle, they provided participants with TGC blue capes(white background) over the live sky.

[elder peak]

ok

[crisp thorn]

No.

[icy sail]

this is a nice idea but I don't think cosmetics are the main focus in this whole shift! it is possible rewards can come later like how bonfire was gifted

[agile hazel]

Testers get a whopping 10 candles added to Live

[slow narwhal]

Wafo hats

[high cape]

As if I'm not burning out enough, Sky just released news that makes me want to quit even sooner

[median temple]

I feel like that might turn people into targets. If people see a player with the beta-exclusive item, they may get pestered with what’s in the new update.

[icy sail]

and it could mean a hierarchy of "I joined first" type of thing which isn't relevant in beta and only a trinket system for live content

[jade veldt]

TGC blue capes (white background) is suitable
We don't need currency, and it's not appropriate to give currency to live-sky kids who have participated in the test. Honorary rewards are enough.

[median temple]

I’d say just keep it to 5-10 candle reward in live at most.

[crisp thorn]

No. Haha

[wraith bolt]

Mane, this Beta restructuring feels like mass layoffs for me

[ember ore]

3 Hearts for all the love and appreciation

[median temple]

Yea that’s fair. Doesn’t cause a massive imbalance for players not in beta.

[tawdry pine]

How about.. a inbox message that lasts for 999 years

[hot tendon]

if theres a reward given to past testers then there will just be expectations of free things in return, which defeats the purpose of beta again (especially if those gifts are given to the testers live accounts)

[crisp thorn]

I will be curious to see how many open invites and NDA’s are signed for iOS beta.

[jade veldt]

This is a good idea, I support it!

[agile hazel]

I'd doubt we'll know the numbers

[median temple]

I’d expect a fair few, but also depends what’s in the NDA.

[sage sparrow]

I would expect maybe 50 or less testers
Something that's easier to control and keep close watch on the testers.

[crisp thorn]

Well, I’m not an influencer or a YouTuber so it won’t affect me in anyway.

[median temple]

However, I do hope select content creators are given unique NDAs that allow SOME leeway for showing beta content TGC allows to be shown.

[agile hazel]

That would most likekly be the creator troupe

[sage sparrow]

That's kinda defeating the purpose of leaking early content that they don't want to happen in the first place:/

[vast swift]

Where is the test application form?

[crisp thorn]

I think higher than that due to time zones. Different countries. I thought the reason was for no leaks.. or hacking. Different rotation of testers?

[median temple]

I can see the issue with it, but also TGC would have that level of control of what exactly is allowed to be shown from beta.

[ember ore]

The form is not out yet, check back in later this month and in early April!

[hot tendon]

theres a difference between "hackers leaking things beta doesnt even have yet" vs "tgc approved content creators (the troupe members) sharing little teasers and hints about whats being tested"

i am interested to see how they go about teasers going forward though

[vast swift]

好的谢谢

[gilded parrot]

We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @vast swift. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.

[agile hazel]

Actually now that I think about it, now that TGC is doing more collabs. Having that NDA is extremely important. Like when the Aurora concert was out in beta for testing we weren't allowed to share it publicly outside discord, but people did anyways so that was significantly more work trying to curb it

[median temple]

Question, will the beta close on or after the 20th?

[hot tendon]

when i heard about the aurora testing i thought there was NDAs i agree its good for future collabs as well as the general feedback and bug testing

[gray anvil]

Gotta update my beta resume to attach to the sign up /j

[wraith bolt]

Yo. See guys, this beta reset happened in the middle of a new season testing. And they wipe clean everything while testing is still on going

I wonder how next season will play out

||(forget about Aurora 3rd concert here and TLP encore test for a moment, it ain't began testing just yet)||

[median temple]

I really do think this is a good change for beta. Despite all the backlash I’m seeing online towards it.

[crisp thorn]

Yes. The backlash is coming from the give-me’s 🫴

[median temple]

I think that’s a sign people lost the point of beta somewhere…

[agile hazel]

People lost the point of it ages ago, I'd say the majority of 'testers' are in beta just to collect cosmetics and treat it as Live

[median temple]

Those free IAPs are something to behold, I cannot deny that.

[crisp thorn]

You are correct. But a lot of been here for 5+ years we morn than our excited in the same breath.

[timber grotto]

people also encouraging others to enter beta just to collect cosmetics when you can do the same in live

[proven pendant]

Idk about ya’ll but when I first got in beta, getting the iap for free actually helped lessen my fomo since it felt like I “had” it.

[median temple]

My biggest hope with a more focused beta is the elimination of bugs that slip into live that aren’t networking ones.

[timber grotto]

yea it made care less about iaps actually , changed my perspective of the game

[worldly robin]

I hope so.

[jagged osprey]

Rip beta tester

[olive night]

Excuse me, where will the application form for the test qualification be sent?

[pastel ice]

read the blog

[ember ore]

Late March ~ Early April

#beta-announcements message

[wooden crown]

After March 20th

[opal arrow]

I gotta say, I do wish there’s some exceptions. The wiki editors for instance greatly benefit from the ability to know about beta info so they can update the wiki in a timely manner

[median temple]

I wish we got the wiki off of fandom though, site is awful

[woeful obsidian]

Most people's are poor in live can't get iap's. They happy they can have it in beta, so I feel some kind of sadness. Because they want enjoy this stuff too.

[median temple]

I mean if you’re in the beta you can still most likely get them, it’s just they’ll get wiped eventually, so don’t get too attached.

[woeful obsidian]

So there will be no players anymore with ults stuff from old seasons.. Even the colab items lost all.

The other items we get back in testing events. But the ults not.

[median temple]

Up to the devs. I remember they brought back the belonging ult for helping with Aurora, so who knows?

[opal arrow]

That should be a criticism towards tgc. Why are iaps so overpriced anyways

[timber grotto]

not being able to get items is a part of beta testing though? nobody literally owns the cinnamoroll items

[gray anvil]

there's also no journey capes and kizuna ai stuff in beta

[sharp hearth]

Beta is not live 2.0, when will ppl learn that
Omg hi Ash

[static oriole]

omg, i just got the news from a friend who also tested the beta. I've been on beta since 2019, and now its going to be all gone.

[potent forge]

Again, though, beta is not meant as replacement for Live. Beta is not supposed to be the game version where you can get early access for free IAPs. Beta is a testing environment for finding bugs and receiving feedback.

[timber grotto]

everytime people say beta is better than live an angel loses its wings

[mortal dust]

does anyone know if the Little Prince’s items will return? like the limited capes and the plush?

[woeful obsidian]

I know. But they felt less sad if they can have it in beta. I don't know if you can't feel this feelings. Of not be able to get cute stuff in live?

[static oriole]

i agree, beta is not the same as live

[potent forge]

People thinking they can go play beta if they can't afford the IAPs in live might be part of why they decide to reset progress. Too many people started to try and get into beta so they can have free access to items, or early previews, rather than test the game.

[median temple]

Nah, it’s just more proof the point of beta being lost more and more

[opal arrow]

What about poor live players who don’t have access to beta? (Me)

[hot tendon]

thats not a beta topic and would be suited for #questions-and-help
the sword pants and iaps are said to return in patch notes though

[static warren]

Rip

[timber grotto]

yes they'll return, including the sword pants! also this is live information, better to ask #seasons-events-chat or #questions-and-help

[mortal dust]

ohh! sorry, i thought id ask it here since its technically not in the live game yet

[gray anvil]

Hi nigel
this chat moves so fast now

[hot tendon]

beta is not the solution to you not being able to afford things (which may sound harsh but is true)
you can still enjoy the game without a few cosmetics

@/leon its announced in #news so its not beta info any more

[opal arrow]

My point being I’m someone from live who doesn’t buy iaps nor have beta access. I just cope with the fact that I won’t have iaps

[ember ore]

#news message

[hot tendon]

if your only appeal to beta is the possible free IAPs then please do not join beta
we need testers not people trying to misuse the devs trust in us to help squash bugs and give feedback about the gameplay and such (not directed at anyone specific, this has been a problem for years now)

i say this as a non tester, who also cant afford IAPs in the live game

[sharp hearth]

And also, why getting the "limited stuff/ults/iap" when we are always risking on losing our progress with the constant bugs
Just look at the "moth" accounts from a few months ago

[opal arrow]

Yeah, how are game breaking bugs getting overlooked in beta? Just proves that not enough people are actively testing

[median temple]

Depends on the bug type. Not all bugs are the same

[gray anvil]

some bugs also don't show up in beta until it gets shipped to live

[timber grotto]

it just does, cause not every bug happens on beta only

[hot tendon]

some bugs dont happen in beta (like the moomin tent crashing people) which is why bug reporting in live is also just as important as in beta

[full hearth]

the true loss here is beta's portrait mode i'd use for previewing the dye shop (it cuts off the top of the head and shoes in standard mode )

[median temple]

Okay… you’re unironically correct with that… why was this never sent to live…

[timber grotto]

it's in live, just need to use an app to make it work 😭

[dark thistle]

No longer having "influencers" that only were testers for internet points, is already a huge win for the new beta program.

[gray anvil]

it's still very unpolished to deploy into live, the UI menus looked cursed in portrait mode.

[white sparrow]

It used to be a bug in live sometimes when you swiped in and out of the app to fast it would wonk the screen into the upward position

[median temple]

Guess that makes sense, but maybe the new beta group can help get it fleshed out and sent to live.

[pure tapir]

Hey guys! I want to share some words with you all
My beta Marshmallow was born in Sanctuary season and never lost a single season or event there since then, working hard here to find and reporting bugs and giving feedback.
I somehow knew these changes were coming, but it's hard for me to get my head around saying goodbye to the beta .
The most precious thing I have there is my Invisible Cape (which took me over seven months of hard farming to get after finishing my constellations) and friends I only played with during the beta.
Even though I don't like losing everything, I think it was for the best that they made this decision for me, since I've barely had time to play lately, and this helps me stop feeling guilty for not having as much of it as I used to have to test and report bugs.
...part 1/2

[timber grotto]

buttons are wonky, camera ui is messy and half of spirit trees not being accessible, just very wonky in general but it's fun to take pictures with portrait mode

[pure tapir]

So I truly hope the next testers enjoy it as much as everyone in this community did.
My marshmallow will miss the beta a lot but will continue to enjoy this wonderful game in live.
Infinite thanks to the devs for their support and great work with our beta community so far. And a big thanks to this kind beta community for everything we share here: funny bugs, clever ways to escape them, wonderful ideas in photos and videos, good advice, and company.
Part 2/2

[late sonnet]

Tbh with bugs I don't think it's a case of "not enough people are actively testing" than it is "let's try fix this Jenga tower of code and if we fix this one part it destroys another" so it's a lot more complex than hitting the fix button

[ember ore]

I get that! I also haven’t had much time to report bugs and provide feedback so I’m looking forward to the new batch of testers being people who are able to contribute more!

[gray anvil]

The good ol' "fix one bug, it creates 20 more"

[uneven flax]

so beta basically like "eden" now, reborn, literally reborn

[late sonnet]

It's time for the great beta exodus of 2025

[dark thistle]

With less testers and platforms available, we could see a windpath bug 2.0, it actually deletes stuff you own irl.

[gray anvil]

wha-
that's what testers are around to find out then

[rugged kindle]

I doubt that bug existed in beta before

[uneven flax]

tgc better do jaw drop anniversary this year lol or ill be disappointed, at least the so far beta will not be changed right? im dying to get the nature cape

[dark thistle]

Are wafo rooms protected by the NDAs? If so, what a massive loss.

[hot tendon]

beta as a whole will be under NDA, so yes technically
but im sure within beta theyll be allowed to still be silly, we just have to wait and see what this new program brings

[late sonnet]

(also... People can always make wafo rooms for live updates, it doesn't need to be solely beta specific tbh)

[strong sentinel]

Beta waiting rooms but more private
Oh, and Cy is right haha!

[dark thistle]

Wafo bunkers

[leaden oak]

So beta will be iOS exclusive only ?

[rugged kindle]

For now, they'll expand on Android and PC later on as they have strengthened these platforms

[strong sentinel]

If you suddenly got a heart from me on beta tho don't get confused that's just me saying "thank you" to everyone I met in beta (won't need these candles soon anyway xD)

[lilac bobcat]

I’m going to miss all of the Nastymold beta videos 😔. Literally the only Skyfluencer I rely on for information

[dire pilot]

Where is the qualification questionnaire of Guangyu test service released?

[dry ibex]

It will be released on Discord, but we will have more information about it soon! The developers haven’t opened it yet

[strong sentinel]

It's not yet released but it will be announced here in Discord after march 20

[short marsh]

i shall have a funeral for myself on beta :p

[runic gazelle]

The current test server...will only iOS users be able to participate in the next opening?

[compact jetty]

What will happen if you break the NDA. I know leakers are gonna leak anyway

[fleet thistle]

所有数据都会消失吗

[old kindle]

Beta chat was moving very fast, and I didn't keep track of whether previous bugs were remembered. My favorite bug was the "prop worm". Those giant aggressive plushies were the funniest thing for me. It's sad that it didn't extend to furniture, because the idea of ​​an attacking bed sounded great

[timber grotto]

probably get banned

[rugged kindle]

Maybe beta access is revoked immediately, and blacklisted from joining future beta rounds is my guess

[compact jetty]

But how do they know which account belongs to whom
People are definitely not going to use the same account for everything

[ashen tusk]

We don't know the lengths to which NDAs will be upheld, but they're very much legal contracts and therefore legal action can be pursued - I definitely think we should have a serious attitude towards them and respect that tgc want to protect their property in the midst of testing for a variety of very valid reasons

[deep cradle]

I'm kinda sad about update on beta. I'm not a beta tester myself. But seeing contents from beta testers helps me prepare in advance just in case there's items that I'd love to get for the upcoming events.

[hot tendon]

if stuff still gets leaked they could go more private and not have player beta at all, just sayin /lh

[ashen tusk]

Ohh it actually did work with some "furniture" props, I managed to turn the worm into mischief table

[rugged kindle]

What I can see is possibily happening is that we'll get detailed patch notes and blogspots showcasing the items

[prime oriole]

Hello, everyone. Long time no see.

[deep cradle]

I hope so. But they usually release patch notes right now in like a few weeks before the event which is not helping me at all. Unlike those contents from beta testers that are shown months before the event starts.

[gilded parrot]

Did you know that you can set up discord to ping you when teasers are released? go to #news and click the bell icon to change notification settings, or follow the news channel in your own server and change settings to get pings outside of discord!

[compact jetty]

Most games don’t have a beta server and contents still get leaked like months ahead. That’s my concern there. I guess my true question is will they sue you and still sue you if you’re not in the US

[rugged kindle]

Not really, they post patch notes including events that will be coming months ahead

And I think going forward they would tease ahead of time

[ashen tusk]

It's worth sharing your thoughts in #beta-feedback for devs to consider - beta testing wasn't ever intended to be an early preview for players to prepare, but I'm sure they're aware that it did become that for a lot of folks and there may be negative feelings with this change

[odd lintel]

I’d personally love for more roadmap/look ahead posts to outline some stuff that’ll be in the coming months and updates, perhaps also with sneak peaks & concepts could be interesting

[karmic basin]

[placid iron]

so wait these chats are still gonna be up but theyll be privated bc of nda if im getting this right????

[rugged kindle]

Yeah!! Look ahead posts would be so nice

[deep cradle]

Me too. At least include the price of the items they are about to release. Cause that's one of my main concerns. I'm not that person who can just spend the same day the item gets released. I need to plan ahead.

[compact jetty]

I think they should hire internal testers instead of recruiting volunteer testers from the general player pool. It will be after

[rugged kindle]

That's true. However beta had never been the price preview place, the prices were never true to the final live and hasn't been shown at all before live

@pancake.cookie they already have indev testers and QA testers

[steady flume]

I really hope these current beta channels will be archived (view only) so that people are still gonna be able to look at all the screenshots that have been sent over the course of literal years. and that the private beta channels will be new ones!
I sent feedback about that too

[ashen tusk]

To be honest, advanced notice isn't necessarily a beta problem, that's more so live players not feeling like the patch notes and news announcements happen early enough to prepare so it might also be worth sharing your feelings about those in #live-feedback

[deep cradle]

I understand. But on the patchnotes they also don't give detailed info right away. Sometimes just a general info about the event and how ticket collection works. But item prices are revealed on a later date

[golden sparrow]

I’m gonna have a funeral for beta. Bury it in my garden me thinks

[muted basalt]

Fr, i'm totally sad when beta gonna reset tho, like my memories there from many pas years like come on

[hot crane]

omg, those youtube channels that share beta contents 😢 I love watching them all, some are one of my fav yt channels 😢😢💔

[deep cradle]

Me too! Welp it is what it is. They already made a decision. Me yapping won't change anything 😂 I'm just kinda sad I won't be able to get a glimpse of anything to give me something to look forward to.

[late sonnet]

back to the average live player experience we go

[karmic basin]

Has the questionnaire been sent out now?? Why did I see someone say that it can be filled in?

[placid iron]

also esppp the art n stuff

[agile hazel]

We really did up the WAFO update 🧇

[odd lintel]

time to start screaming every week when there’s a patch coming

[late sonnet]

pick up the beta updates role
you will know when that comes out, most likely

also just read #beta-announcements or #beta-faq most recent messages, it gives all the information you need to know.

ppl think the most important aspect of being a tester is bug reporting or feedbacking when really it's reading the update notes

[odd lintel]

reading is a very important thing in general

[graceful zephyr]

When will the official release the questionnaire? Because my English is not very good, this part is edited by the translator, and the wording may be wrong, but I really love Sky: Children of the Light and want to actively report problems.

[late sonnet]

read the latest post in #beta-announcements

[broken bison]

Never managed to add Sof in beta

[sterile trail]

What’s happening. I read the posts but I don’t get it. Are the servers resetting?

[dry ibex]

May we all meet again as moths 🙏 (also I’m always accepting beta friends!!! Or I was )

[graceful zephyr]

Thanks! However, in that part of the post, I only saw the official saying that the questionnaire has been released, but I can’t find the location of the questionnaire. Or is it because of some errors in the translation, and the questionnaire has not been released yet?

[odd lintel]

…do I have Sof on live, that is the question

[late sonnet]

When Will These Changes Start Happening?

• March 20th: Beta access will be closed to all testers
• Late March - Early April:
  • Beta application form posted
  • First round of testers contacted
• Week of April 14: 0.29.5 closed beta begins

this is the forecasted schedule of events that will occur

[gilded parrot]

@late sonnet, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta.

[broken bison]

How about accepting in Live 👀

[sterile trail]

Anyways, my question wasn’t answered but are the accounts resetting and being deleted which would mean we have to start off fresh?

[graceful zephyr]

I found this part, but I don’t really understand what it means. Is this something that will happen in the future? Has the questionnaire been published yet? Sorry that my poor English may have caused you trouble. I feel very guilty.

[late sonnet]

even on my last days in beta chat skybot can't help but aggresively remind me of things I already know

[odd lintel]

it’s for old times sake

[ashen tusk]

They haven't published the questionnaire yet but hopefully soon

[sterile trail]

Yay fresh start

[broken bison]

July 19th 2019 all over again

[odd lintel]

fresh start IF you get accepted into the new beta program

[late sonnet]

dates have been published to indicate the application form will be posted between after March 20th and the beginning weeks of the month of April

[full hearth]

set off the new years and fortune fireworks at the same time with my pins in beta, throwing a goodbye party

[olive night]

wow

[graceful zephyr]

I see! Thank you very much! If it weren't for you, I would probably have been anxiously looking for the questionnaire. Thank you for your answers! !

[sterile trail]

What about the beta accounts already there? Are they being wiped? I already have one but lost access to it. Would it be wiped?

[graceful zephyr]

Thank you very much! ! ! ! !

[valid flint]

I have question, will I lost all item and even account in Beta?

[muted basalt]

So our account will gone forever n lost our rare ultimate

[odd lintel]

Yes, everything gone.

It’s a complete fresh start for the beta testing program as they want to restructure the system entirely.

[sterile trail]

Yay fresh start, it’s also beta so never expect anything to be there forever

@astral ember their free items are gone

[astral ember]

Why all people afraid of losing thing in beta. It's a beta and for testing 😭

[late sonnet]

it's totally natural/normal to feel attached to something you invested time in

[karmic basin]

I want to know what translator you are using. Now I have to copy a sentence and cut it to the translator to translate. It's too troublesome.

[muted basalt]

If beta serves already open back, Is it only for IOS players?

[astral ember]

But its beta. What do you want to expect from a beta testing app

[late sonnet]

I myself fully embrace the beta wipe but I am also sad inside of saying goodbye to beta
people are allowed to be sadge™️

and yes, ios to begin with

[sterile trail]

True, I was upset when I lost access to my beta account but now I’m happy their wiping the servers clean so I can return to beta. Had that beta account since 2020

New cloud ID, it was connected to my family Cloud

[astral ember]

How you lost access to your beta?

[strong sentinel]

Yeah, same. It was so many funny moments and soon it will be just memories
But maybe after wipe they will be just resetting accounts without deleting our friend list or something. Time will show

[ancient bear]

When will TGC start distributing testing quotas

[warm warren]

I always liked your potato beta logs

[late sonnet]

@ sunny
#beta-discussion message
#beta-announcements

[ancient bear]

thanks

[next kelp]

When will the application test form be issued?

[late sonnet]

any and all information about the upcoming beta wipe and access can be found in #beta-announcements or #beta-faq in the most recent messages

please read them

[ancient bear]

There is probably no exact time yet

[late sonnet]

there is a timeframe to expect the form to be posted, but no exact date

[next kelp]

ok thank you！

[silver niche]

yeah

[ancient bear]

I hope to apply for the qualification of game testing server

[spark lance]

Guys

Are we being banned from beta

[cunning belfry]

More like they wipe out all accounts in beta

[late sonnet]

if you were banned you wouldn't be allowed back in even if you applied through the new form they're putting out

please read the latest #beta-announcements message to learn about why they're proceeding with this change

[spark lance]

THAT IS SO UNNECESSARY WHAT

[rugged kindle]

It is necessary, read up #beta-announcements

[strong sentinel]

The thing I don't understand is how people cry about prices like
It's been a whole while since beta has no prices present at all lol
What are you budgeting for..? Yu probably find out about the pricing the day they post blog posts for seasons and events. At least this is where I was getting info now

[spark lance]

I worked so hard to get that damn access and I don't want to do the aviary quest Again

[rugged kindle]

Plus lately we don't even know which is IGC or IAP even in beta

[late sonnet]

tbh if you find yourself regularly tempted by items that are presented in the blog, you should uh
plan ahead by setting aside a sky only budget instead, I feel

[agile hazel]

Worked hard for what? Beta access is just luck and timing. You're not entitled to beta

[charred cedar]

so beta will wipe out all the stuff? And start from the beginning?

[potent forge]

These are your first posts in the server... Have you actually been involved in the beta testing so far?

[strong sentinel]

Maybe you won't. We don't know how the new accounts will be set up after the revamp

[cunning belfry]

Careful, be reasonable. You might aware Discord channel are over positive

[astral ember]

Playing the live version is the best for collecting stuff

[naive atlas]

that's just how beta is. we were informed that any progression we make will eventually be wiped because these are testing grounds. this information was provided from the get go a

[spark lance]

Yessssss I was born on season of moment in beta

[late sonnet]

stating what's common knowledge in beta testing =/= being overpositive
it's just facts that were given to testers and people interested in beta equally

[rugged kindle]

To add on that. There are cometic previews and even trial spells always available for season and events

[glacial vector]

Does this mean no more beta posts on other social media? Sorry js asking

[agile hazel]

Access and/or progress wipes. We do this on an as-needed basis for testing purposes. Access wipes are when we kick everyone out of Beta and they must rejoin if they wish to continue being a tester for us, which helps us cycle in new and active testers. Progress wipes are when we reset all testers’ progress in the game. This may include resetting currencies (hearts and/or candles).

You agreed to this when you joined Beta.

[potent forge]

But have you actively been involved in the testing? Gave any feedback on discord or discussed with the other users?

[astral ember]

Too bad. There is a lot of people don't read that

[late sonnet]

then that's on them 🤷 beta is all about reading to keep up with what's required of testers
if you don't read the terms of service that's on you tbh

[naive atlas]

see this is why the beta wipe is necessary. too many people treating beta servers as live accounts

[spark lance]

Ohhh so the wipe is necessary

[rugged kindle]

And lowering chances for genuine beta tester wannabe to even join the beta at all. With the current first come first serve basis

[strong sentinel]

Beta is not free access after all. Not reading the TOS doesn't grant your beta account special treatment

[cunning belfry]

Before they doing this it's already might better way to collect data from players instead of all thing have though of Discord. It will be like staying behind of community wall
FYI, go see another media and see what players really told

[naive atlas]

im really happy with the new application system honestly! it'll filter out a lot of people

[spark lance]

and I totally forgot how to get the beta access guys help

[late sonnet]

sorry I don't understand what you're trying to say could you explain more clearly

[heavy ice]

The new beta rules also help deter people who aren't interested in testing stuff and just want to get future items sooner / for free (if they're iaps)

[strong sentinel]

We’ll be fine guys. This is sad news but ultimately we all will be alright and get used to new system
Let’s hope it will help eliminate many many bugs (including server connection issues that are giving me nightmares at this point)
Focus on your live accounts if these news are too much for you to handle and you don’t wanna beta test in new condition

[spark lance]

I want to test stuff that's what I want to do in beta tbh

[rugged kindle]

Likewise! I really would love to test the new content and mechanic and let them know how I feel, which I think should be helpful for live later on (I'm just passionate about sky shshsh)

[potent forge]

keep an eye on the beta news channel and they will likely post an update soon

[naive atlas]

it's honestly more encouraging for me now to try and apply been burnt out from testing for a while now so this is a nice change and motivates me to provide better feedback if i ever get another chance!

[cunning belfry]

More precisely. We're not making games in Discord

[forest delta]

beta tester grey will be real soon™️

[rugged kindle]

Yeah! At first I've always wanted to be in beta but after seeing how abysmal my chances are, I felt a little...demotivated.
But i think smaller scale / tester group would help us communicate more directly with devs and discuss about the test stuffs

[trim totem]

非常害怕

[rugged kindle]

Finally I will no longer be the schrodinger beta tester soon™️

and be free from beta purgatory

[civic falcon]

are all of our progress gonna be reset guys?

[strong sentinel]

Also I feel like they might as well let in quite big amount of people still. Because there are play tests like the last one in eden, all those concerts and flying cones events
The people will be NEEDED so those who are really willing will be let back in

[potent forge]

english only please

[agile hazel]

Tester zoom calls

[slow kestrel]

yes

[late sonnet]

esp since android openings were tied to ios slots being opened up, there may be a good chunk of ios peeps allowed in yeah

[trim totem]

OK

[spark lance]

My dream was getting beta access because I get jealous from people who can test a new mechanics and give an opinion about their experience.i really hope I can stay as beta tester

[civic falcon]

Awwh alright... All those years of hardwork — gone

[rugged kindle]

I mean it will be efficient rather than scouring through feedbacks that may be flooded™️ while the main chat channels are full of curious outside beta channels asking for out of context questions when will there be invites 48488384x

[naive atlas]

you can always apply again they're just adding new requirements such as being 18+ and signing an NDA

[strong sentinel]

You can still send feedback in live version too! Live feedback is very important to developers

[rugged kindle]

You can even put your ideas or wishlist there as well

[naive atlas]

that's rough :c well there will be plenty of chances in the future to apply when you're of the right age, doubt sky is going anywhere anytime soon with the amount of preparations they're doing! it's just not your time yet

[spark lance]

I'm crying this news ruined my day and I would quit sky for this.

[late sonnet]

the live game isn't going anywhere though
you can keep giving feedback for that

if you do feel tired of sky in general, taking a step back is a good call

[slow kestrel]

I hope everyone's work will be restored in another form.

[spark lance]

The toxic memory I have in live version make me move to beta and I was more focusing on beta later on

[astral ember]

Your hardwork of feedback is Useful for the live version now

[rugged kindle]

No worries, you can still feedback for the live version

[trim totem]

I haven't written feedback before, so can I apply now?

[late sonnet]

you can apply when the form is open, you have ios, and you are of 18+ years of age

[rugged kindle]

Yes you can! When the application form is posted later (also mind the requirements above, the ios part is for the first wave iirc)

[odd lintel]

grey I’ll cover your court fees if you tell me when new elder masks get added into beta (heavy /s)

[rugged kindle]

court fees- 😭😭

It's better when you find it out in live all by yourself and you can ascend to orbit

[odd lintel]

alternatively I can just be your lawyer, that’ll go wonderfully!

but yeah I’d rather just scream once the patch notes come out for live ngl… and then flip a coin to decide if I wait until my weekly run to get them or just do it right as the update is out

[strong sentinel]

The way new journey pack just dropped yesterday
From what I’ve seen people were just EXTRA excited
Imagine when all things will be like that haha (I got so excited I even bought said pack ajhdjs)

[spark lance]

Yk what?I'm done I'm DONE for this news this is going to make me outrage.i hate hate hate hate hate this jedhdhdhdhdbdb GAHHHHHHH

[silver niche]

Where can I apply for ?

[naive atlas]

not available yet. we'll probably receive an announcement for the application in #beta-announcements

[neat wagon]

I'm gonna miss the sky beta..

[rugged kindle]

Yeah! I think there will be even greater hype for new surprise content

[silver niche]

ok,I know.thank you.

[rugged kindle]

At that point I think you'll earn one point so it'll be like

Sokai : Iko
1 : 5738

/JK

[odd lintel]

I saw numbers and my brain thought AC 💔

[golden sparrow]

Honestly good riddance to sky beta.. I feel so free now

[daring wren]

Hello, I don't know much about the "Sky Questionnaire." Can I get the opportunity to take the test just by applying, or will there be a screening process?

[rancid flume]

[silver niche]

I'm already looking forward to the final new beta.

[nova bay]

If you want to apply, then you fill in the questionnaire. And then a selection will be made by TGC

[silver niche]

[daring wren]

OK, thank you

[silver niche]

So where is the questionnaire application for the test beta?

[rugged kindle]

It's not out yet, it will be sometime within the 20 March - early April timeframe

[silver niche]

yeah,thank you.

[rancid lark]

Uh where do I sign NDA?

[silver niche]

[strong sentinel]

Questions about “questionnaire” and “NDA” are asked every 4 messages at this point

[tall snow]

hi

[lime fiber]

So if I sign up in the questionnaire application, get selected (Obviously I won't get picked lmao)

I must constantly report bugs present in the game?. Cool

[stark yew]

are beta folks planning a big byebye aurora party? (as in. getting together to see an aurora concert) or is it all individual..

[lime fiber]

Definitely all individual

[dry ibex]

WE ARE! #beta-looking-for-group message

[silver niche]

How is your collection of candles going?

[stark yew]

oh!!!!!! yippie i forget to look at finding group, thank you sof!

[muted basalt]

Same here, damn dude like I feel reluctant to lose my account on sky beta

[silver niche]

[dry ibex]

Seems like lots of folk want to join so pleaaaase join!

We’re all meeting up in the aurora concert. One last together!!!

[fair glade]

~~Set off some fireworks on my behalf, my beta skykid has long since been lost into the abyss ~~

[late sonnet]

you know what would be funny
if they decided to close beta midway through the concert and everyone starts screaming then got kicked out of the program

[gray anvil]

TGC: flicks beta switch off
us: ⁉️

[silver niche]

The class is so boring, it’s time to play the beta.

[fair glade]

I find it curious how beta is ending with a massive fan-gathering concert while the first encore testing was my first beta experience

[opaque fern]

Does anybody have a showcase video of the last beta cosmetics?

[late sonnet]

Le Beta Wipe tl;dr
(decided to make this to consolidate information for peeps, feel free to just link it)

wuhappen

• All existing beta accounts regardless of join date/play time will be removed from beta, and progress reset. Beta is a separate platform to live so live won't have anything happen.
  • If you manage to make it into the new beta wave, everyone will start as a moth.
• New testers will be approved & selected through a questionaire form that will be provided from between March 20th to the first weeks of April.
  • I would say it's recommended to have the beta-updates role to know when it's released. All important announcements are made in #beta-announcements for beta.

You must have the following requirements:

• Be 18+ years of age to sign a Non Disclosure Agreement (NDA)
• Have access to an iOS device
• Be on the official Sky discord server
  🔸 Android & PC beta is coming later for security reasons

All details can be found here:

• #beta-announcements message
• #beta-faq message

official blog post on this change: #news message

[agile hazel]

Goodbye test suit

[river pecan]

Hello everyone,will the old player's account also be deleted? For example, the original contributor's white TGC cape

[slender trail]

goodbye sky beta

[river pecan]

I believe this will be a betrayal to the old players in the beta server, even though tgc have been reminded that the data will be deleted

[strong sentinel]

We’ll all be fine! It’s sad but just one of beta processes.

[late sonnet]

oh people have already been coming in complaining about it for sure

[strong sentinel]

I imagine how everyone will run to beta chat to bid their last goodbyes before channels get hidden
But I hope I will get into new test and see everyone again

[river pecan]

It is better to recruit internal positions for testing. I certainly support confidentiality agreements, but for multinational players, these are invalid

[late sonnet]

well if they leak then they'll just be banned from the server + never allowed back into testing

[potent forge]

They have internal testers. But a live service multiplayer game like Sky needs a large number of players to test and find bugs.

[strong sentinel]

Beta is about firsthand feedback and willingness to help devs by following their instructions (including living through wipes) and not about early access preview whatever you actually help with feedback or just run around beta like it’s another live account

[late sonnet]

I'm sure over the 6-7 years they've had beta be open, they know exactly how many players they need to maintain a good testing environment

[river pecan]

I don't really care, but I'm still pretty sad. It could also be a problem with Android Google beta testing qualifications

[late sonnet]

they're opening up android later for security reasons

[river pecan]

ok,I still support it

[uneven grail]

为什么要关掉测试服！

[gilded parrot]

We ask everyone to please post only in English on this server, @uneven grail. Unfortunately, moderators and staff aren't able to support all the languages spoken by our global Sky family.

[spring kayak]

will the accounts be removed from beta? When I return to beta testing, will I be able to continue playing on my account? I would really hate to lose the items and candles

[uneven grail]

Why are you shutting down the beta

[near forum]

You shouldn't get attached to that to begin with in a beta environment, that account isn't for progressing like any live account

[strong sentinel]

For testing purposes

[pale temple]

To be honest, I have been with you for 3、4 years and I feel that you do consider your account as your own. However, I fully agree with this closed test and have already stated that the test server is an environment for testing. Please do not take notes of your account or all information

[uneven grail]

So what's the point of so many beta players working so hard for so long?

[naive bridge]

Rest in peace all beta players, thank you all for your service
A new wave of both fresh and old players will help shape the game in the future

[trim temple]

you can really see the people who played beta like live and are upset over it

Beta was never meant to be a cosmetic collector it's for testing purposes! Nothing on beta was promised to be permanent

[near forum]

Testing for improvement before making it to live, not collecting

[uneven grail]

What has he improved? The same bugs that appeared on beta appear on the official service?