#beta-discussion
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We don’t know yet! Ultimates have not been finalised yet, or at least not released in beta
No, I'm witch robed!
I can't complete the season challenge, because there is a bug in the second spirit
Oooh okay, I was at the shard just now with someone wearing yeti pants, invisible cape & flight bird and they were really struggling. We saw different plants I think
Hi! If this is from the live / global game, best to ask in #questions-and-help. This is the beta channel 
Shards worked as intended for me
@karmic frigate thank you again!
I think I was in a server with a PC player a little bit ago, because indeed - my shard completed (mobile) but they were still trying to burn the plants.
Iirc that hasn’t happened yet. Everytime I was in a server with a switch player in Live, the shard completed at the same time - but this one did not?
Did it complete automatically for you the past couple of days?
Oh also: jellyfish memory on both?
I can't complete the season challenge because there is a bug in the second spirit, how do I solve the bug?
Season of Revival or Season of Moments?
On sky beta
Oh forgot the shard memory haha ! Had to have bfs account leave the server to be able to burn on my side 
The other days it finished at the same time !! This one was so much different !
The other shards on mobiles screen (when PC was able to burn) would have plants burning on their own at a different location 
Ohhh sorry, try pressing “cancel” if you have server errors and then place the boat again! But also definitely send in a bug report
That is veeeeery strange, I’m going to pass this along. Thank you sooooooo much again!!!!
I have tried many times but it remains like that. There's another thing I can't buy at the shop because there's nothing in the shop
What’s the thing you’re trying to buy?
Maybe doing the second quest in this build isn’t possible, definitely bug report that (as we’re entering the finishing stages of the 0.23.0 patch, it’s important for the devs to know so it doesn’t go to Live like that)
Ok, thank you
How big do you think the next update will be
fairly big, if its like 0.23.0, they might start testing DoFeast as well
Oh I'm excited for DoFe too
I love the ice rink.
Also I see beta screenshots is filled with memes and now my day is complete 
Gotta say, the next Beta updates seems to be for.... a good while already..
Anyone knows when the next doot gonna be
I mean, I've been waiting for, like, a week or two? And I haven't seen any news and stuff
Its still an off day for tgc land so let's not expect anything until day after tomorrow 😔
How old is project aviary
in less than one minute
When will my amazon delivery come?
Available in 172 days. Come back later!
Like (almost) always probably Wednesday. Or Tuesday since there wasn't 1 last Wednesday.
do you think it's time for another waiting room? 
Time to bring out the one I made last time and forgot to post 
Season area and Eden makes my game give server errors. 😔
me searching for updoot liek 
It's Sunday there won't be one
is it known yet which items will be iap in season of style??
The glasses (heart and fire)
Along with the jeans and bunny slippers
@spark lance, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
Do all the free items for days of style only cost tickets? Or do some cost hearts/candles?
Is there final rewards for aviary already?
hi guys,May I ask if there are any returning ancestors in your situation that can be exchanged? I didn't see it, it was empty.
Since it’s a new event it’s all tickets or IAP
Is anyone else missing the Dracula cape in their closet now? I used to have it but now it is no longer there. Is it just me? XD
Have you tried reading #beta-known-issues?
Beta was beta. 😔
Thank you! I will do that
Guys when did PC beta begin again? 
(She will use this to win an arguement
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I actually made some carrot and orange waffles yesterday. It was delicious!
Anyone getting Server errors?
Always, It's beta 
why when i try to update sky beta, it takes me to testflight but it keeps asking for a redeem code? i’m not sure where to ask this 😭
when was the last time you played beta? you may have been kicked out of the program from the looks of it
like 3 weeks ago? not entirely sure
yeah you were probs kicked out for inactivity because that's something non testers usually ask about when they first download testflight
you'll have to wait for another ios wave to get back into beta
Seems like general chat is having the "Should Ultimate Gifts come back?" debate, now it makes me wonder about that in this season.
It comes back at least biweekly 
I do wish they'd come back. If people really want to keep exclusivity then they should be happy with pendants staying exclusive. Keeping ults exclusive is sad. New players will have missed 18(?) Seasons? 💀
I also want them to come back so the debate will die
I don't usually have the energy to argue with people. Especially in gen chat where you can just get pinged a billion times at once and it gets stressful
I think ults coming back should be fine. The pendant is already a proof of purchase and is exclusive so 🤷♂️
Yeah its not like once you purchase the pendant you have the ultimates granted
Yeah. There was someone saying that it wouldn't be profitable because players would no longer buy the passes since they could get the ults after anyways like
people buy passes because they want the items... Plus if tgc brought ults back, and made it so you could only get them after 100% all the TS for the season you missed, then the pressure to buy would still be there since... Spirits can take cough cough saluting protector and now dancing performer cough THREE YEARS to rerun after their season ends.
Also if tgc made the IAP ult bundles a little more expensive than the pass like 15 USD for ult bundle vs a 10 USD pass players would obviously want the pass more too just for earlier access and to not have to pay 5 USD more and wait 1-2 years to finish all the TS if they do decide they want the ults later.
AND tgc has opened up to three new platforms since 2020. They'd make money from new players joining and wanting ults from past seasons. So many players covet ults from 2020 and back because the game had only released on mobile. It was so funny to me that some people think people wouldn't buy the passes if ults were made available after the season ends. 
Especially when there comes a player that says I don't want them to return because I worked hard for them and a lot of excuses everyone says I want old ults to come back because everyone didn't even had the chance to get the ultimates because sky was ios exclusive keeping all that for a selected group in a game like sky that wants everyone to have the same experience doesn't seem correct to me
omg yes someone said that to me too a while back. That players worked hard during the seasons so they should get ults and keep exclusive LMAO. I'd say players who have to wait YEARS to complete all the TS for a season they like and have to use regular candles while other events are going on as opposed to seasonal have worked just as hard and stressed just as much as players during the season. 💀
I swear every single game has a "but if they did [thing] people wouldn't buy [thing] anymore and they need to make money!" Bro I play a roblox game where you can get stuff just by running around for a few hours and people STILL buy the skips to get it immediately
Like working hard im like man it's a game you're being greedy for a virtual item in a social game that's sad
Sky has worked up a loyal and dedicated playerbase to the point that something like this would not cause bankruptcy
And everyone is getting the whole thing about cosmetics wrong like having something exclusive doesn't make you better than anyone specially if you're so toxic about it
Sky cosmetics are just an extra to represent yourself in game but keeping that stuff unavailable just because yes is not fair for everyone is not like we are asking them to give them for free
Yeah 🫠 people getting treated like celebrities for items they got for existing in 2020 and buying a pass is so wild to me. Like the social heirarchy and vibes are weird honestly. Not everyone obviously but I've seen it so many times.
Someone also said in gen that ults are supposed to be a momento and having them brought back would defeat the point of exclusive items... Like no they're supposed to be an ULTIMATE gift for completing the season.... It's in the name 🥲
New players can complete the season with TS... They should get access to ultimate gifts as iaps when they do.
One time someone offered me money because I have the anubis mask I would love TGC bringing that mask back I would get it for my alt
I've been in these shoes before. Game offered exclusive never can ever get again item if you bought the game early. About a month ago item returned for cheap cheap ingame currency. I still have my item! I got to get it a whole year earlier! And now everyone can enjoy it and everyone is happier instead of focusing on making only the exclusive thing obsessed people satiated
I just hope they don't listen to those selfish players who want to keep those items for themselves and actually care for the great majority this time
Exactly. It would also decimate the predatory practicies in marketplaces for accounts that are old. Charging thousands for an account with deer mask and TGC doesn't get any of that money only resellers do. They could tank that market.
Also players who got the passes and didn't finish could finish with TS and get the ult bundle in shop for free since they already had the pass. My friend joined during prophecy and didn't get to finish by one spirit and missed Anubis. She should get her ult.
I love games that treat people who dont have money to buy iaps and weren't a player from the start the same as those who were there since day 1 and are financially stable. Very few things in life can break the divide between economic and social status like that.
Sky for example after the new candle system everything started to get more expensive and the only healthy way to get candles is paying and what makes me so mad is those players who said I play 1 hour daily and I have a lot of candles like ok good for you but not everyone here is you not everyone have the same time as you
Sky community nowadays has lost all sense of empathy for others players they only care about themselves
TGC also probably has some whale players that would buy every single ult gift they missed too it's so funny
like I can definitely see it as a profitable thing that could also break down the strange social heirarchy that's formed around the game.
Just have to keep wishing it happens I guess and hope they never remove the "we want to bring ults back but don't know how" from the rhythm patch notes. That would then be a silent retraction of that statement that would break my heart.
And now you can't even share your opinion saying that something is bad or that you didn't like it because you get immediately judged by not saying something positive like why would I say something good about something I don't like and want it to change
Some places are an echo chamber or have toxic positivity. Its unfortunate and I really think a ton of people don't understand criticism doesn't always equal harsh or negative or hate. 🤝
Yeah but idk why some people here take it so personal like stop disturbing the millionaire company Sky is under a company who makes millions we shouldn't be conformist and accept all the bad stuff we have the right to demand a quality game since TGC without us it's nothing
We need to let them see that if we continue accepting everything the game will become worse and worse by the time conformism and positive toxicity are the worst thing in a community
It's not even really that you think something is bad it's that you see how something could be better but alas
I just hope in a near future TGC gets rid of all the hard-coded stuff in the game and stop giving ios exclusive features of if they dont at least stop giving them more features that none of the other platforms have
I would buy back the ults. I didn’t know seasons weren’t a repeating thing and I’ve been playing since Aug 2019
Agreed
As someone who regrettably didn’t purchase the passes for Gratitude- Belonging. I have purchased every seasonal pass since. I want the pendants too. Because I want to collect all the cosmetics in this game.
Because I have a fear of missing out I wish people would be more open about wanting this idea because it eliminates people preying on others and offering them money, eliminates people wanting to break the game, and eliminates this sense of “I am better then everyone because I have this item”.
Pros is brings more money, helps players who joined the game later. It also helps get rid of the FOMO for players who can’t even get on as much
Sooner or later we will have ults back
not sure about collaboration one tho, we should wait and hope 
Yeah, I know collabs stuff is a different story
Wanna jump in and say I definitely agree with all of you 
Seeing the gatekeeping for the ultimates is so sad to me because they make ultimates the whole point of the game when really its making friends? I don't get the 'hard work for the ults' argument either, what hard work have you done that's harder than a non SP player that played the season but couldn't afford it or was a moth and didn't understand better until too late?
Bringing back ults could work easily cos you could just, finish all the TS trees from a specific season and then get access to buy the ults for the same price the SP is? It would be the same hard work put in as during the time the season came out !
The 'exclusivity' everyone talks about just sounds like people wanting to be better than newer players.. this isn't the point of the game,,
Yeah, I don't see myself getting Flight Ultimates anytime soon with the rate at which they're coming back as TS. It could just take forever. But honestly, yeah. I'm all for them coming back and I know TGC needs money to support the game so this is a great opportunity to bring them back. It can be a rotation, too. Doesn't have to be all at once, either.
Also the people "working harder" by participating in a season are actually working less since they just have to do dailies n stuff to get everything, meanwhile people who missed a season have to wait months/years for a spirit to come back and have to candle run 15 candles/day for ~2 weeks for ONE TS.. so 
I definitely understand people wanting to get the cosmetics on spot rather than waiting them for free for years ! It can be a hassle if a person is impatient or might get very busy down the road
But saying they did more hard word and act more superior to other players for having past season ults to begin with is just really sad to see 
the ultimate return discussion is back, huh? 
It's always here 
It's tradition for the ult discussion to happen at some point lol
After all this years? Always
That's fine too. I just was saying if tgc really wanted to somehow appease to those who want ults to not come back for the sake of feeling special then just let them have the pendants and leave it at that. I even have said we could get a modified version of the pendants where just the necklace cord changes (like how it's a diamond studded necklace for original and maybe the revised version for iap ult packs be studded squares instead but the pendant is the same).
I wouldn't care if they came back though.
IF, THEORETICALLY, they were bringing back old ultimates this season, then they should, in my opinion, put in a shop in Aviary Village and be on a daily rotation but it's completely random which ultimates are offered that day, however the player who views these items by the mannequins or display within the shop have the ability to preview or use the item(s) in the store. Just my opinion, though. This is just something I think wouldn't be implemented, but rather a concept to start with, maybe? Then see how the playerbase feels about it. Of course the old ultimates will indeed cost money to buy, but they can be bought separately too.
this is genuinely a live channel topic more than beta though right now
I think them being in revival's aviary would be cool. But random rotation I don't really like. I definitely think it should be immediately available after getting the TS for the season completed😭😭 no more waiting should happen after all that waiting
It is yeah, but it always pokes into here, especially with the doot droughts
so I'm not super surprised it's made it's way round again
i can get why people always talk about these issues that plagued the game or even suggestions here because this is the latest and experimental build of the game where tgc tests out unfinished stuff, it makes people think up features or how they feel something should be
well in the trailer they chose to showcase the Passage ultimate cape instead of any regular or TS cape... that makes me think something is going to happen with ults 
And that could very well change, because beta is beta. What they shown was subject to change, too.
I know 😭 so tired of wafos 
I agree, no human was ever meant to eat this many.
but talking about ults, I’d literally pay 25 dollars for the Prophecy mask and I’m not even kidding 
There were some significant differences between what we saw in the Project Aviary trailer and what we're currently seeing at the moment, assuming they're one and the same. I'm actually not sure if was wise for them to have released the trailer visuals if we're going to end up with something significantly different by the end (while they might be saving the trailer version of the area as something to be unlocked later, that's not what I'm led to believe right now based on how many of the same elements we're already seeing in the current area)
with each update it is looking more and more like the trailer in some aspects tho, we can only wait but I think most of what we saw is going to be implemented
I spent 30$ to buy seasonal candle bundle 💀.
The two biggest differences that jump out at me from the trailer were the small flowing canal with boats flowing along them, as well as the different topology around the Eden gate (there were passages that led downwards underground, rather than the regular Home gates we have right now). I can't really see those kinds of differences being implemented at a later date when the 3D modelling had already been done for a trailer that was released prior to what we're testing right now, and the area looks similar enough to what we have now yet geographically different enough that it looks like a different interpretation of the same area that won't make sense being implemented alongside what we already have -- that's the main reason I feel like aspects of the trailer visuals have been scrapped from what we can see right now.
as much as i want the huge gates i can see that the trailer was really just a placeholder (buildings from dreams and straight up aviary) to just create a hub vibe
i know this isn't a fair comparison or applies to everyone but there is some irony that people want the same old things to come back while hating on recoloured cosmetics
Is the Aviary going to be the new home page? I love it so much.
I think so but I think it will be optional rather you want the current home space or the new one in progress
what do you mean cy? Clearly this is #ultimate-gift-return-discussion 
Lol
You already have all of them 
No I don’t 
Lol it's fun to see people debate about this topic
Is the 5th quest out?
You are are able to do quests?
Seasonal quests? Yeah. I did 4

100% agree. And can I just add that the "i paid real money for this" argument is pretty invalid as well? The price of a season pass, at least in my country, is below one hour of minimum wage of work for an adult, and a little below that of a child. So in a way, its comparing one hour of working a real job to way more hours of farming in a game for candles. Its a different level of hardship but the difference in time investment is still huge. So judging by time investment, newer players do more than the OG players to deserve ultimates. Just a different perspective on it, I'd say
As what I can see now, at least the Eden gate is huge now even make me stopped breathing in bad meaning
Now I just need the bead hair to complete my new look I want the bead hair so bad
How do new players do more than old players, when seasons don’t repeat and the premises are the same for everyone (6 candles each day)? 
still can't do the 2nd quest?
They’re gone like, hours ago
Correction: they were never here 
I kidnapped them

Good, the ts needs a breaks
Trailers being different than final builds is just a reality of game development. Although putting a disclaimer on the bottom of the screen that says things are subject to change like I see a lot of developers do may be wise
They did include a disclaimer
This is why they gave us glasses as the ultimate gift for Moments 
The amount of wait put in waiting for the TS and also considering how the prices for the TS differ from the seasonal candle prices - making you CR more and do longer CR's compared to when u CR for seasonal and do dailies
During the season people had whole month to get a spirit
Now we get 4 days to get all TS cosmetics and some still miss out on the cosmetics so they wait for it to come back a 2nd time
Can I have a list of what IAPs were available during Mischief 2023 beta? I forgor 😭
I also forgor 💀
stuff got a bit odd at the end of the event so I think we’ll just have to wait for an official list when 0.23.0 arrives to live 
a bit late but i hope if they are brought back its just added to the quest tree of that season as candles like the candle items left from previous seasons, itd make the most sense and you could decide if you wanted to save the candles for them when you have the time for it as i imagine theyd be pretty expensive
1000 candles per ult
tbf that'd be really funny and that'd be a flex of its own
I’d buy Anubis mask for 1000 candles 
Thought it does beg the question, how would it work for seasons where the guide tree is no longer accessible? (Rhythm, Belonging, Lightseekers and Gratitude) 
bet that ults will be 10x more than the average item price 😭
You just cry
dunno tho
look I think buying the Rhythm ult mask for 1000 candles would be such a big flex 
You feed ur candles to a shrine and get a random ult gift 
or for $69.69 u can get one
Imagine doing that, hoping for owl hair, and instead you get given the Assembly ult mask

ngl i would pay that much for the krill cape
i'm nothing if not a whale 
NGL And this is absolutely a hot take but I don't think Ult gifts should come back
they (To me at least) are a memory of a season and something that players can feel pride for having, and while yeah it sucks theres like 5 ult gifts I want it makes me value the ult gifts I have more, and the fun that the seasons were 
gacha ults
can you get doubles
Just a question… which ults do you want? Wondering if I own any of them… 
Also Squeak U came to beta to visit me 

I want ults to come back so more people can enjoy the Assembly and Flight ults 
It doesn't matter cause i'll have more ults than you if I don't share my season passes

And you'll stop talking to me, WIN WIN
/j
NOO 
I’m actually genuinely curious which ones you want 
Uhh
TLP Ones, the aurora ones and owl hair 
ah… so the only ones I own are my least favourite

im pretty sure if ults did come back it would be treated as something hard to get and special but i also feel like it wouldnt be over the top ie having to fill out every ts from that season and it probably wouldnt come until all the elder masks are a thing if they even happen 😔
sucks to suck ig 
I've liked all my ult gifts except the passage mask 
I only dislike my TLP ults tbh 
why did I get that pass again? Oh right, the pendant 
smh gimme them then
Feel like if old ult ever comes back, you will have to pay real money to get them
Maybe they should do packs like from season gratitude to this season for $??
I’ve missed a few ults. It’s not a big deal. Something new will come along eventually. If you put that much energy into pixels on a screen, I am afraid for the future 
I have an Idea , what if there is a Season of Ultimatr Guides, where all of the spirits will be the previous guides and cosmetics will be the Ultimate items. Season pass will cost 999$ though 😆😆😆
Nooooooo 😭
Season of broke skykids then 😂
Why do I always display network issues
Wait it's spooky month already, that means we'll probably get a mischief announcement for live soon and I'm so excited for crab time to come 
Can only receive hearts from friends, but can't give
Im also hoping for season teaser
and patchnotes actually, give me my morning paper!!
morning paper indeed 😭
I feel like at least one of these should happen:
• ults return, but they’re difficult to obtain and cost at least as much as a pass.
• we get the ability to lend out items to friends, so I can make my friends happy wearing the ults they want to wear (which in most cases I don’t even use!)
No but imagine Sagomay riding a bike, takes one morning papers from the front basket, throws it at your front door going “good sir! Here’s your daily update”
I’ll see myself out
I think the social dynamic of people who have old ults are to be worshiped would get worse with this
The item lending idea could probably be accomplished by means of a button that gives a timed spell version of the cosmetic to anyone holding your hand — I’ve always thought that’d be a good way of letting friends get access to ult-instruments they’d otherwise never be able to play
Hey beta chat, I’m curious how many sc everyone has stocked up currently 
I have 567 currently stocked up, doing sc grind this season testing round since I haven’t done so before, so I’m just going until I get tired or bored of it 
I have seen some players with over a thousand candles
Also god I’m not used to the unique camera panning in the boat shop

Is the kazuna AI pack retuning with the new season? I remember there being the symbol for it in some spoilers , does anyone know for sure?
I’d rather it could transfer the item to a friend’s closet and it would stay there unless I recall it back to my closet
as for instruments, I wish we could place them in our shared space so visitors could just pick it up and play!
probably, but rather that than the situation now where I have friends who absolutely love certain old ults which are just gathering dust in my closet..
I don’t wear them, I want to use them to make my friends happy!
Yeah but that will incentivate toxic behavior which I prefer that not being an option and actually let everyone get those ults
true, it would be better if everyone (who puts in the time+effort+money!) could get old ults.
Yeah because you only get the chance to get the ultimates after purchasing the pass is not like once you pay for the pass you get immediate access to them
waiting for 30 min slowmode because chat is off topic 
It isn't wdym
I imagine lending out cosmetics to be a high level friendship ability though, it would not be available so easily, just for the best of friends..
kinda stupid I’d not get the ability to lend out things I own just because that can lead to annoying kids begging for items.
probably there should be an alternative way too, like borrowing cosmetics from a spirit for some in-game currency. that way the friendship way is just more economical, not the only way.
We’re not testing any returns of ultimates in beta, to the best of my knowledge
It’s just that when this type of topic has come up before, it always ended in long slowmode and us being told to take it to Live channels instead 
Just means people will have to think reaaaallly hard about what they wanna write 😌
There isn't actually anything to talk about in beta so i guess this is just a waiting room at this point or just #off-topic-discussion automatically 
Theres nothing to talk so 30 min cooldown also isn't a problem, right? 
Yeah but we are discussing about something that should be implemented and tested in beta so it's not totally out of topic
imagine Sky have slow mode and 30min cooldown
Beta chat doesn’t automatically have to become off topic because there isn’t anything to actively test. And what should or shouldn’t be tested in beta isn’t up to us either. If we’re missing a feature in the game, there’s #wishlist-and-ideas-archived
I’m just saying, don’t be surprised if there is a longer slowmode soon, based on previous occasions like this 
Hi, Idk is here is ok to ask, I got steam beta key this summer but can't test it since last week and the game not even opens, I saw reported this but has that any fix yet?
What are the specs for your pc? Is your graphics driver updated?
If you saw a similar report, please report it as well! It’s really important data to have for TGC, because all models are different
By any chance are you using integrated graphics?
We never got the pack in beta.
It was in beta, but it was removed from closets not long after the event
Kizuna ai pack is a collab pack, winch means it will never return (unless tgc will try to get copyright for kizuna again)
Yes, and my specs are: AMD Ryzen 5 3600 and GeForce RTX 2060 Super
You can't open the game?
I am a hardliner on this topic. Make them free for all. Give them for free as soon as you start the game. Make them into a tutorial for picking out cosmetics
I can’t believe such exclusivity has been used in a game about inclusivity
It's unfortunate, but yeah no game is a stranger to such topics.
How
Correct me if I'm wrong but how would they be a TS if they're only 2 trees? Just curious how that would work.
I don't think it was ever told how it would work. The devs hadn't decided it back when shattering was running. So we'll see if it gets picked as a ts 
I was confused on why you were discussing a gen chat thing in beta, Bell 
OH WAIT THIS ISNT GENCHAT WHOOOPS😭 (HOW DID I GET HERE?)
And so it begins again, I'll see myself out 
As fascinating as the discussion is, we will always end up in the same place arguing until we’re blue in the face for our own individual point of view. Currently, this is what the game looks like: ultimates are not returning. But if people feel strongly that they should, there is #live-feedback and #wishlist-and-ideas-archived (for ideas on how?)
I havent really seen this as an argument, and discussion about it shouldnt clog those channels
Maybe you haven’t been around on this server for very long, but this discussion has been ongoing since…probably since Android join the game. It’s not new and the arguments for/against are not new either. TGC is very much aware of the difference in opinion for players
People are always saying something that has been said before
There’s no controversy.
It’s just the same things getting said over and over
You already said that?
yes, but this topic isnt at all relevant to the current testing
regardless the conversation isnt related to beta testing discussion and no " its related because it should be added to beta " is not a valid reason, and this channel is not your personal offtopic channel because beta testing is in a slower period
Theres nothing to test, rather than getting the same bugs reported
chat in the other channels then.
This isn’t alternative gen chat. It’s ok if this channel falls quiet sometimes
I do not chat in other channels because they are too overwhelming for me, but that is a personal issue, not a reason to go off topic here instead
That's is, it seems goes to open but no
Were you able to open it before or have you been unable to open it ever since you got the steam key?
What do you thinks going to be in the next update??? I'm litterally itching for a new update please PLEASE aviarys feel lifeless rn
I'd like to think they're working on the next quests and figuring out the spirit trees as not all cosmetics are available at the moment 
Maybe the ults as well?
(long time ago comment: Sagomay as a Newsie fanart, get yer updates here!)
From this message I can imagine how waiting for quests would feel like 🥹
Never opened, just goes black screen but instantly closes
Did your computers specs fit the criteria ? And i assume that sky is crashing on your computer, I'd check Event Viewer to confirm if that is the case
If you need help navigating Event Viewer let me know ! 
what's the next season name??
Revival
what's mischief and Aviary then can you please explain a lil bit?
Mischief is the Halloween event
Aviary is the seasonal areas name 
so we will get to see aviary in season of revival? right?
At the moment, it doesn't look exactly like the Aviary from before, but it definitely is going for the look
We aren't entirely sure if the area will look like this when the season is officially out on live, beta is always open to changes
yep, thank you 
my computer specs are fine, just checked to be sure but its ok so, whats that event viewer?
We need high heels 👠 TGC
isn't it tooo modern for the sky world?
just a opinion
After the denim pants… I don’t think so
the
the wasteland elder
nah, still heels too modern, jeans are kinda a lose pants with blue colour
We have a gothic fit in sky tho with the dark boots
Alright so right click on windows start and you'll see almost at the top Event Viewer, click on that and check for any recent Errors or Critical in Overview, it should show what the errors or criticals are about
If you see some stuff in Application section, open the Windows Logs on the left and then go Application
It should show up the issue there and see if its from Steam or just overall about Sky
hoping it shows up there really, if not then I'm not sure what to do other than report it as a bug ! 
well we also have ballerina shoes
Righttt I'm sure a type of heel shoes aren't too far off
Aurora’s sneakers 👟
I mean it's upto tgc
personally I wouldn't buy it if they added it to the game
rest is upto them
I mean those we're from a collab but good point
True true
Maybe some would like it tho
Who knows
We also did have those slippers from days of sunlight and now the bunny slippers from style
Yep..
Come on it would be hilarious 😆 I’d love to wear heels 👠 they would make me look taller and fancier
I think they should add t shirts first if they gonna add heels to the game 😆
T shirts and some dresses for sure to at least have some things to match the shoes
I think certain types of high-heeled shoes have been around for quite a while. ^_^;
I also would love it if we can customise our sky kids we can make them thin or chubby just like we can do with the height
and that's prolly not gonna happen
when tgc adds high heels i will be there
We can dream👏
Don't lose hope yet I'm sure tgc would one of these days
wow...haha
seems like many people want heels in the game
Yesss
Oh yeah for sure
Now that i think about it Some shoes gives you a lil bit of height in game I think??
Yesssss
They just wanna be taller u know some of us are cursed to be short no matter how much height spell u buy 
how tall can you get with a pair of heels bro
ok, just checked that and no errors shows there, I should report then. I saw this same error reported but diferent specs, so I'll report it too just in case. Thank you tho uwu
Awe ! Thought it would but oh well
Always happy to try and help tho ! 
Well I don't really know but hey if it's worth it for others I guess it's all that matters
mhm, everyone have their own opinion, and I respect that, just not for me personally
Yeah that's understandable 
aren't heels hundreds of years old 
worse tbh
YES
WHY ARE SUNGLASSES IN SKY BUT NOT HEELS
SMH TGC, SMH /j
Anyone still stuck on quest 3?
guys u think updat tomorro or wensday
in foty sekons
definitely in less than one minute!
i love how Tgc are absolutely ruining halloween event
just halloween event? (ok i'll stop)
literally what does prophecy have to do with this 😭
Can I get
"Live player complaining about Beta for no reason" for 300?
Honestly I like the modern items coming into sky, especially in cosmetics only cause prebby

I'm going crazy because the season pass TGC is only half completed
They’re referring to a cosmetic which was only viewed through illegitimate means, so we aren’t allowed to discuss it here.
@spontaneous.combustion discussion of hacked content is against the server rules, please delete your message and be sure to follow the server #rules going forward.
Ah can’t even ping them 
Yeah, they tend to release the rest of them in a update before the actual live patch
It's why there's usually a few weeks between seasons.
just report them to the mods next time
- 300 Points for Under Chairs
But yeah, The beta cosmetics are in all likelyhood. Finished
They just have yet to release them in beta, and they'll probably drop a week or so before the live release 💀 
Anyway, I’m expecting we see a beta doot either today or tomorrow, SURELY 
Yeah, For no other reason than to finish releasing cosmetics so none break the game.
Though we have to enjoy some hot fresh WAFOs while we wait 🧇
Update , update, update We need to see the final gifts, otherwise it is too much of a hassle
Can I get Live player complaining about beta for 500?
I hope so
It's not exactly a hassle to wait, nor will complaining do anything other than agitate.
complaint, what complaint, asking in a polite way for a type of information is not a complaint, 😭😭😭😂😂😂😂😂
Will there be ultimate rewards though 🤔
Can I get "Live player complaining in beta" for 500?
And yeah, If you actually paid attention. There's a good chance the ult gift will be the guide's cape and another item 
Something some of y'all would've figured out if you looked at anything but the nastymold video

Nothing has been confirmed yet, but hopeful steward do be rocking a cool looking scarf 
I've been a busy bee, not much I have checked recently :c
I'm hoping that's the ult gift, that's whats been pressumed. But We gotta WAFO.
And my message got krilled saying that but longer 💀
I can probably grab a screenshot of their scarf, if you'd like @icy sail
Who are you, are you the moderator of this room, are you some important developer, who are you? Is it possible to know?
That's alright, beta is always here to check in when you're able! 
hmm I didn't see a bat mask??? 🦇 unless it's the ts from prophecy
Also yes please!! ^^
I'm one of the beta testers who has the discussion chat clogged up by annoying live players (you) wanting to see stuff thats subject to change 
They're discussing and complaining about content that isn't even in Beta, as it was cut and made inaccessible through legitimate means 💀
Please don't be rude, if you're frustrated it's best to take a step away
nevermind I haven't done quest 4 bro has still gone and I can't find him 😭
I need to do eden in live ngl but I feel too lazy cause I cant chibi clip through most of it 😭💀
Maybe get a friend to take you of they're up to it! 
jade has to go to school like a dork tho 😭
Had no arguement
Resorts to Insults, yeah that sounds abt right 💀
Love to see it, Anyway ignoring that Unpleasantness
what are y'all beta tester thoughts on the new season 
Season of revival, right?
I hope to see new sky roleplayers around! It's very pretty and some storylines would be fun
Yeah, It's pretty cool so far.
I personally think still it'll be around the time PC Live Releases, seeing how some of the quests feel somewhat tutorial like. Along with the throwback cosmetics 
But we gotta wait and find out <3
@odd lintel is one of my friends btw, Shes my only friend in beta so she can't take me to beta eden rn, one guy mod reacting everything 
where are the sky rpers even at btw I wanna join them cool cookies 😭
Hi there! The number one rule in this server is to be kind, and I don’t think your message is entirely appropriate for this server.
Could you delete it and return to beta topics please?
yo sof,
Yeah they've been at it for a while
I don't even remember their point
How's life treating you, are you ready for revival? 
Table I’m on school holidays you dense pie 
YOU DONT TELL ME THESE THINGS SMHHHHH 😭
Can you take me to eden when I get some more WL 🥺
GRAHHH IMMA SHAKE U JADE CMERE 🖐️
I THOUGHT I DID?
Maybe, I still don’t even have my beta wl up 
I take us for WL Run, you eden uber?
Generally if anyone is making you uncomfortable or not respecting the rules, please always feel free to send a message in #contact-the-mods!
In the meantime, let’s keep it on-topic to beta. I’m really excited for the next Bug Fixes and Improvements™️ doot 
cosmetics are nice i guess, kind of basic (that's a good thing), area is really disappointing for me, would love it to look like it did in a dream i had yesterday, can't show it though
sure just let me not be busy 
Is dis a hint that doot is speeding towards us?
I did already, but yeah. Can't wait for da doot 
Sadly I'm working wednesday thursday as I got da work experience to do but I can spend a while playing 
Unfortunately I’m not a fortune teller
I’m just wishful thinking and hoping we get another infamous SagoDoot 
Sagodoot 
I might get the ferrets out to banish them to pastaland 
Gonna make a prophecy that devs will no doubt invalidate when I go to sleep that we won't get a doot for another week at least 
Hahahahahahahahahaa Bubba 
when we getting ferrets in sky, Sof 
Let me look in my glass ball 🔮
Ah yes, never 
In addition to what Sof
has said it’s also very important not to reply/argue to unfriendly comments and to simply report them in #contact-the-mods as replying will just escalate the situation 
understood but should also review the conduct of the person who responded also had a complaint from another member for his actions, they should be more equitable, taking into account the observation
Imma have to go to sky assembly and give TGC Staff posters of my ferrets then 
"Have you seen this man? You have now :3"
I will predict the exact date of the doot for a small upfront fee of 500 ascended candles 🫵😌
offers cy's wallet
That’s not for me to handle, I’m just another member. please #contact-the-mods about it!
You have a deal writes name in candle wax
We all know I have enough pictures and ferrets to do so, and some extra 
🏃💨
I remember the ferret thing from a while back
gave me a good laugh hahahaha I love the dedication to the bit
Get back here Jaws 
The message boat was a difficulty,c ause I forgot too for a few weeks 
but yeah, I still live up to da bit of Skycord's Semi-Illegal Ferret Dealer 
I even had Wes ask someone to ask me for ferret pics 
THEIF GET BACK HERE!! 
Pspsps shaaark pspsps.. (when doot you can tell me)
Did U ever see them in the beta screenshots during the first aurora encore test 
What if we do finally get ferrets in Sky, but it’s only in the form of a cape 
Okay so beta topic, are we feeling like we'll see gratitude deer and abyss guide for some quests? if so which shops do you think they'd be running each?
then imma wear that cape 
(when I get caught)
The capes give very big smacks of those seasons feels so we have a veryy big possibility of seeing them in later quests?
Bubba I've been wanting to ask can I send u a QR, you seem like a cool cookie 
Ohhhhh I haven’t actually thought about that
id definitely say gratitude guide opens the mask shop!!
DO I LOOK LIKE A SOCCER BALL TO YOU
yeah, I have a series of conspiracy theories that are too far fetched to share just yet 
with the only evidence being stuff I learned in project management college classes 
we cooking up some spicy theories tho in my dms 
But honestly guys I don’t mind I’m just happy I can finally see the two spirits that hold my hand 😭 stay with me forever spirits
That would make sense, abyss could be a cape shop haver since they own the ult cape for their season but I feel like it doesn't suit them? I would expect to find them at the harbour but there isn't really one in aviary currently 
Oh man I have a lot of catching up to do here. I thought this place would be more dead due to drought of doots but it looks like it's picking up a little.
Ironically the impatience of doots brings people chatting 
I really feel you
who do you think would open up a cape shop? Maybe granny belonging, she’s gonna knit all the capes for us 
Do y'all think the sky animated series will be referenced in a future season 
I’m still hoping grandma will open a bakery here 
guys I burnt one of the slices of my toast and I decided to douse it in Vegemite as a solution 
Sure
There’s this little spot oob where there’s a knitting place perfectly granny-shaped if you ask me 
yippee
Just like call me table or smt i don't have a preferred name, can I dm you the QR? 
I'd love that but what if she opened a bakery and then had no time for her usual lunches or feast 
Cool cookie? Can I eat bubba? 
there’s a bat mask that recently got updated and it looks so bad☠️
Introducing... Grandma TWO! Now she cooks at two different places at two different times!
guys Vegemite actually worked what 😭
We haven't had a bat mask aside from prophecy, if you're talking about something else chances are it's not legitimate content and it shouldn't be discussed here 
my poor bakery dreams
the knitting sounds so adorable though, do you think they’d also give us some hot chocolate while they knit 
Why is reacting to messages so hecking weird, sometimes in this server it says no but literally everywhere else says oki 😭
i feel like abyss guide is gonna be in charge of the prop shop and that's when they gonna give us harpoons and swords people im telling you-
the halloween mask idk man😣
The cat mask?
Thats the only halloween mask that exists 
There hasn’t been another Halloween mask like that, could you delete all comments related to this topic please as discussing hacked content isn’t allowed
Some channels have the "allow emojis/reactions from other servers" disabled, not sure why but it is what it is. Maybe that explains why some reactions are getting bonked
I can react to messages, sometimes my screenshakes and removes it tho 
Ohh that means you're blocked 😭
i’ve no idea, by the looks of it i think a large majority of us have been lied to and now i am miserable LMAO
I don't know half of the people I react too though, why would some random guy from genchat block me 💀
Not the replies, the reactions. I see you have the nitro badge, so if you try to use emojis from outside this server in some channels it won't let you use them, that's what I mean. Not sure if I misunderstood your initial question
No one has been lied to if they’ve been following the content available in beta, could you delete the other messages talking about the hacked content please?
They edited their message
Who knows, sometimes people get blocked and we'll never know why
Dw about it though
we all have our reasons, it's not our business 
yeah, i didn’t even know it was supposed hacked content 😟
I don't its, just grahh I have funny reactions and like doing the funni sticker button 😭
It do be like that 😔
Thank you for understanding! For future reference only what’s actually available in the shops or #beta-announcements is legitimate 
Anyway I'm not exactly paying attention to PC beta because running sky on my laptop would promote it to grenade 💀
But I still believe revival and PC Release are correlated 
I still feel like my PC can handle Sky, more than enough actually. But I get the feeling something might go wrong, too. We'll see when it comes eventually.
Yeah, fair fair
I have abt 3 friends imma kidnap when steam version releases 
Speaking of PC, I might just hop on to snatch the Starter Pack for PC and never play it again. Assuming there is one.
fair fair, I assume there'll be one with the track record for them. I just wonder what it is 
I'll probably just get on PC if it runs it and buy the starter pack for PC, then never touch PC again.
yeah fair 
Is there anywhere I can look at the ult rewards pics if there are any? 
I couldn't find the guide sorry splice 😭
we dont know what they are yet
There are no ultimate rewards yet, yeah.
Also how are you PC players finding beta 
Hahaa that's ok, thanks anyways!! ^^
Gonna hibernate for a while after this, but I think it's amazing so far! I'm astonished at how well my laptop runs Sky so far and can't wait for it to go Live

I has a question 👉👈 how do you get skymojis in your name? is that a nitro thing 
Oh wow that's so lovely! Glad you're enjoying it ^^
You mean the little emojis at the ends of our names? Those are the Mischief roles! You can ask QnH for more info
And with that, hibernation time. Take care, Beta chat

Have a cosy sleep! Thank you all for your help and kindness 
I am gonna eep soon actually, i am a v tired chair
Season of Delay?
its dry season , I bet next update will be big, hence its taking a while to arrive
I feel like the drought is due to a big update on the way, but there's still some improvements and additions that need to be added at least. For example added spirits, things for them to sit on as I've noticed they're just floating in the air, anything that makes the area feel more alive, and ultimate gifts of course.
we're still missing cosmetic icons anyway
It’s really not uncommon for beta to have weeks without an update yall 
We were entering the finishing stages of the patch, next doot is probably for the icons & ults (maybe) but like, it’s not uncommon
Wafo wafo wafo nomnomnomnom 🧇
I believe the update is not ready to be released yet
That's why I said "on the way", because there's still some things needing adjusted and changed, and icon updates as well.
what we doing when the next doot comes out and home is gone 
Old Home: "Guess I'll die." 
So... it's going to be postponed? it will be?
I'm not a dev.
no announcement about the season has been made so it’s impossible to postpone it 😭
if they follow the normal 2 week break it is coming on October 16th, which is scaringly close for a season we know so little about 
Not that this has anything to do with the release date, but that's also a free day for Skytober, weirdly enough.
just so I don’t get my hopes up too high, the Free Day is probably more as just a little creative reset for people who are going hard on Skytober, since the 16th is basically the middle of the month 
HOLD ON DAY 19 IS “Aviary” 
Jade don’t get your hopes up, probably just in reference to Project Aviary trailer or Light Awaits Aviary 
Yeah, that's my original thought too but I was quickly dismissed by it.
Just a assumption
wouldn’t be mad if next season wasn’t until January tbh 
It would be impossible
but I understood that you were ironic 
but this season itself, the devs confirmed that it will be the last one this year
Ooh, when you say this, could I ask if you can clarify if that means there’s going to be a big gap of nothing at the end? I joined right as new years was happening, and I think as Aurora just ended so Im not at all experienced! 
I will water the ground where I stand, so the flowers in Sky can grow back again 
Is Vault too modern for the Sky world?
i'm pretty sure it would just depend on the style of heel but we do have several cosmetics that would at least go into victorian era so i dont think it matters too much (the realms seem to have different time periods to me anyway)
This will be one of the few seasons with a large investment
as well as Season of Little Prince/Aurora
I honestly would not be mad if there was a longer break for this season
there’s always 4 seasons every year
January - March
April - June
July - September
October - December
the one we’re testing rn (Revival) is going to be the last one for 2023, going from October till December
Ooh! I see, thats so cool! :D
I had no idea they had a system, that’s so neat :)
I can’t wait to see how this goes, then! Exciting to circle back finally to when I initially started :3
Me either
If it is to stabilize the game and fix as many bugs as possible, I will be grateful 🤝
Dunno if this is where to post or not but wanted to say thank you to the Eden strangers last night. Didn’t get a chance to light or show appreciation but i was melting. Thank you. Some who waited after dying … and we all went out together. 😭 so unexpected and it was like old sky. Thank you so much ❤️
Am getting a feeling this is another doot drought just like the one after season of moments end
I was not ready for it to be back so soon 
#beta-screenshots-videos message
@leaden oak those visuals would be AWESOME in Sky
I hope that "Sky 2.0" that Jenova told during an interview kinda looks similar to the style in the Two Embers, but thats asking too much 😭
Mhmm
I hope that there's 3 week break between seasons. This new 2-week break model is not lending itself well to quality assurance, IMO.
And I've already submitted feedback in the proper channels. I just think it's telling that tally in my display name of bugs reported is just for the season that ended in live. I'm going to reset it when the next update comes out.
I hope TGC can return to taking their time in elaborating upon this wonderful world they've built.
The thing they can do is to merge events, like what they did with Summer and Summerlights.
Before they were dead times, and now its overwhelming to a point someone might not like.
I STILL PRAY FOR A ST. PATRICKS THEMED EVENT XD
I think they should merge it with days of nature, as far as cosmetics are concerned. I mean, days of nature and days of summer could be merged. The cosmetics complement each other well, and that surfboard couldn't spread its wings in that tiny pond.
Plus it's still weird to have the summer theme event at the very end of the actual season. that's the time of year i'm starting to put on sweaters
Hmmm since Nature is to celebrate Earth Day, and sunlight is the summer event. Those are very far apart :c
The seashell with ocean waves, the sunglasses?
It's just strange that these summer oriented items don't actually get distributed in the middle of the summer season.
Meanwhile days of feast goes just fine
January: Fortune
February: Love
March: Bloom
April: Nature
May: No event currently
June: Color
July: Anniversary Celebration
August: AURORA Encore???? ksksks
September: Sunlight
October: Style and Mischief
November: Giving (only a week)
December: Feast
Bro is questioning existence itself
No, I'm more just wasting my time instead of getting proper sleep at this point.
Lol, sometimes we get philosophical when we sleepy teehee
i always thought day of sunlight was to enjoy the last summer heat and then welcome autumn lol
Sunlight is the default summer event
2020: Summerlights
2021: Summer & Summerlights
2022: Sunlight & Lazy Days
2023: Sunlight (Summer + Summerlights/Lazy Days combined)
Bets on what Sunlight will be rebranded into next year
Days of Sunshine XD
Some events deserve to last only a week 
vault? you mean the map "vault of knowledge"?
Those cosmetics are included with DoNature since the ocean has been the focus theme for Nature the past few years, I imagine if they wanted to do a different world conservation effort to fundraise, we would get cosmetics based on that.
(Just making a note on that, kinda just backreading rn
)
You forgot Days of Music 
Yo the season on live ended already how’s the new season goin on? 
I'm still cooking WAFOs cuz there's no BETA Update and #beta-season-test-chat just taking a break 
Lol
We have most likely tested enough for the first release to Live in 2-3 weeks
i really doubt thats the case and the rest of the quests havent been released to beta still
The rest of the quests are likely for the second half of the season, which will be 0.23.5.
We still need cosmetic icons & one of the cosmetic trees has nothing (also they seem a bit unfinished) and there’s also the ult not existing, so we probably do have a build or two left for this patch.
Like Jade said, we always test seasons this way now: first half, followed by release in Live, then the second half when Live has been underway for a few weeks
i didnt mean it as where are the quests but as there are still a lot of issues that havent been fixed including the quests and i think its too soon still
its a big season and i think it needs more time
I agree. But I’m just referencing how it’s been in the past. When the seasonal chat closes, it usually means a longer pause between updates and an imminent release to Live
ah alright, thank you
Also remember that TGC does have internet testing, where they may choose to keep things for a surprise element
they test the internet connectivity for yellow wifi signals?

i think it just means poor connection
Sobbing, I just got so confused. I lit a friend's star and the "meet a new acquaintance" quest completed and I was like ???? Exit the constellation intending to go make a bug report and somebody was standing there and must have shared candles at the EXACT same moment 
Yep, a classic way to complete the quest 
What's going on 
Things and stuff… 
Mischief
Oh wait that ended 
bug fixes and improvements™️ of course

Does anyone know how many season quests are currently open and when the next one will be available? Thanks
Four and no
has anyone else been having trouble logging onto beta?? i have a solid internet connection but its been a good few days since i haven't been able to log in bc it keeps saying failed to connect 😭
does anyone remember if they opened invites for ios back during abyss testing?
Me as android waiting for the invite since 2month ...

Abyss was under testing around December 2021 ish, you could check the #beta-signup-info channel for posts around that time 
Yes bc I joined during abyss testing and am iOS
Does anyone have predictions for the event (DoStyle) area for tomorrow in live?
This is based on beta content but I know it won't be 100% accurate. I just want to know predictions, not exact places
What do you mean prediction🤏 closet rotations are random if that's what you mean.
If you mean the actual location of where the runway will be I don't know 😦
WAFOs even in the Live version! 
i meant locations for the tickets and the event area basically
I’m pretty sure TGC just threw us the runways randomly in beta, no particular order 
Well, at the start there was a schedule, then it fell apart
Tbf even that was confusing since the dates overlapped 😭
basically: we have no clue which runway it will be, and to be quite honest, I forgot where they were anyway 
I wish the portal area had the large open feel that the original Aviary had, but now I don't think it's likely to happen since the live release is approaching. 
Other than that I find the area to be amazing, the grass feel greener, the space feels very cozy yet lively. I love going there and just roaming around. 
I don't care where the runway is I got my tophat and my life is complete
is it approaching though? the area still feels unfinished, there's still 3 more quests. i still think it's a "Project" because this is only the first part of the area and we'll get more in later seasons/updates/events
That's an interesting take, I really hope that's true! 
i also have a feeling they will be leaning more into the lore, maybe changing up the area, turning the "hobbit houses" into ones that look more similar to the ones in the trailer. i know they're cool and all but it feels like they're more temporary (in the story, not the game itself)
Someone else mentioned recently that structures in the trailer looked very much like placeholders, as they were practically copies of the houses in Dreams.
The trailer was in-development footage after all, so I wouldn’t focus on that one specifically
the hobbit houses feel fitting to me at least!
I think a new doot is soon mybe because I kept trying to go inside the realm and I find myself in home again i tried multiple times >.>
Yeah that bug has been around since the first patch, restarting your game solves the issue but it’s definitely worth bug reporting
I have seen that happens when you go to a realm before going to aviary
The return shrine in aviary acts like you want to go back to home or the previous realm
the walking into the portal and then walking backward trick someone mentioned a while ago has saved me sm
Another solution is to disconnect your internet and walk into the portal
Always works for me
hello, can I still sign up for the pc beta?
Who else likes calling the season aviary instead of revival like aviary just sounds better in my opinion 
I wish they would add some green trees like the season of bloom. Hopefully it wouldn't look like playing on low graphic when its live
However, there aren't any dlc which can enhance graphics
why not just add bigger graphics settings? other games are both on android and pc and look and run fine on both. model detail, texture detail, effects, all that stuff. and i would love more color and textures, i'm tired of just seeing the same gray and like 5 other colors everywhere. AND a lot of repeating texture patterns
Well considering how sky is programmed I gave up on that sky will stay the same forever unless they redo the code and the graphics engine
it's all the fault of making it free and for mobile
No there are free mobile games out there who look way better than sky
It's TGC hardcoding stuff for ios and their graphics engine
but Sky LA looked much better from what i've seen, i don't get why change like half the stuff
Yeah, but honestly, Sky has done a lot during its lifespan so far. Things change and that's just how it is.
There are plenty of free games who look very good. The thing is, sky has to be able to run on a lot of different devices, and android especially is a very hard system to code for. Because android is a lot of different systems, so one android phone may work completely different than another one. LA may have looked a lot better, but they ended up cutting a lot of stuff because even iOS couldn't handle some of it.
I don't get it as well a huge graphics downgrade and TGC way for doing stuff is do the less and hope everyone is happy they haven't done anything about the graphics in all these years the only thing is the fps thing but it's no available for all devices
There are out games that are available on ios and android and look exactly as good in both versions
then don't put it on mobile??? i really feel like this was such an incredibly unique idea but instead we got a quite generic in a lot of aspects game with low quality models and a world that looks like it could have been made in Roblox Studio, full of microtransactions and grinding.
The main issue is sky proprietary graphics engine which is not properly optimized and they haven't done much about it
So far I only noticed android graphics getting worse and ios getting better regardless if the device can handle it seems like we have the same version in live for all the android versions and doesn't show that much the hardware capacities of each device
I'm sure someone will say I'm being very negative about the game and ignoring the positive stuff but if all the good stuff gets easily overwhelmed by the negative ofc I will only focus on the bad unless I see those bad things getting better
has the connection to server issue been fixed i cant progress with the main story quests at all
About optimisation: yes, it goes worse even on the switch
really? no other game on the app store has ever caught my attention when it comes to graphics like Sky,
Now switch never runs at 60fps even at the lowest settings after the last update
Because it's not as simple as that. Taking it off mobile wouldn't be a good solution since most of the player base is mobile users. Taking away access on mobile is cutting a lot of players off from playing.
taking off moblie = them losing money
not everyone is blessed with a gaming computer or a computer that can run sky or own a xbox or PS
that's the thing... money
my mac cant run Ni No Kuni Cross Worlds or any game for that matter i have to play soley on moblie
Well, no, its not that critical, its mostly lag if game goes too fast and low graphics
I just hope they dedicate a month to do something about their graphics engine is lacking optimization
My keyboard is messing with me 
ill be honest if the game costed money i wouldnt be playing it
Do i sound too bad if i say that for the high requirements of the designer place in tgc they are doing bad?
no, just being honest, people need to stop babying a company when they make millions. sometimes bluntness and rudeness is a good wake up call but thats just my opinion
They need to see that they can't give us the minimum all the time and actually do stuff like they used to do until dreams
ults have been dull since gratitude nothing beats that mask tbh
Lol, yeah, deer mask is great
wish they put more effort into ults and seasonal items again, and stopped giving us lackluster stuff. i have spent hundreds on this game and the only items i wear is the rhythm ult items
I agree and stop giving ios exclusive features
I would say that ults gone into deep depression hole since abyss season
Agreed! Btw what's your opinion about IAPs in game?
it shouldnt have been ios exclusive it should have been a seasonal freebie for all players to experience it once when they first started
@sterile trail, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
dont care bot didnt ask
Sadly when they released Android they went for the easy way making a direct port instead of coding the stuff again
What was iOS exclusive? If you mean at the start of the games history, then that makes sense it started on iOS. If you mean the cosmetic from style, I'm pretty sure that was due to Android taking to update.
my opinion on IAPs is they should be in bundles not sold seperately just shows they need money by also making it expensive. i spend my tip money i make from work on this stuff. they are also over priced too bundles makes more sense would rather spend 14USDs on 3 items then one
Some iaps in this game are just overpriced for such little things they do. And the fact that most of the features from iaps gets implemented into game for free is just meh
Some games do that too, actually, so no surprise
Gratitude was a season only on IOS
I agree! I did also mention in their survey they need to reduce the no of IAP items. I know the game needs to earn money but making items overpriced for the same doesn't make sense :((
yeah and i wouldnt mind spending money on this game the only reason im spending money is because I enjoy the games items and stuff, it'd be nicer though if it was in bundles. everything is overpriced.
like 25USD for a little prince scarf, I could buy a KFC meal for 10USDs
Like the founders cape that for the cape you also get candles and that seems fair for the price
Yeah! I agree. Everything is overpriced so... No use of complaining about that
i wish there werent IAPS just seasonal passes like the good old days (exluding candle IAPS)
Well, we once complained enough about cat hair becoming an iap….
Actually, even just doing drag spirits caused immense lag, it wasn’t better at all
But that made sense because it was only available for iOS before. It might be nice for an ult to come back, but it is what it is.
In any case: iap and price discussion is something that’s not being tested in beta right now. I’m sorry to be the booman (again) but as there’s no SoRevival, PC or current beta topics I think this conversation is better held in the live channels
But it's understandable that they added IAPs coz they need to increase their source of income from the game with increase in time.
For me that's an optimization issue more than a hardware problem
Somewhat, it wouldn’t be really fair for people who spent time getting all of the stuff to live it back again
if they were gonna push it to more devices they should have made that like a freebie season for other devices to help players learn about seasonal systems
should we take this to #general-sky-discussion sorry about jumping in on yalls convo
It would be much messier there but okay
also im still mad i cant progress with Sir enchanments quest in the season of rivial stupid boat
That's gonna be hard there everyone ignores you and is a bit toxic about certain topics
(It wont be fixed in live version and people will complain in live too)
I have not even gotten any of the new seasonal items because this season is confusing
I have speedrunned getting the spirit dress and was done, lol
That’s not true, this is a bug essential to completing the second quest. If you experienced the bug and reported it, I’m sure the team will look into it.
It’s a bug relating to the social spells, nothing new for beta. It might as well get fixed in the next update, but yk, report and wafo!
eh dc about their opinions, hasnt stopped my fat mouth yet, and hasnt gotten me banned because i am not breaking any rules
Cough cough….
Lots of bugs that gets reported in beta mostly transfers to live too and gets fixed if the next build in beta fixed it
I forgot what's wafo again
Can anyone please say it's full form?
im innocent qwq
Yep, the game isn’t perfect. Sometimes bugs transfer to the live game - Sagomay pinned a message here explaining why that happens: #beta-discussion message
Wait And Find Out! 
That shouldn't happen in my opinion they should release the last version that was testes in beta to avoid those problems
it has never been possible for beta to catch all bugs
and even if we did somehow manage to catch all bugs and report them, it doesn't guarantee that the devs can fix them in time for an update
This is a message by Ktjn that is really worth the read: #beta-discussion message
i aint reading all that 

Tgc have team of 100 people. If they struggle, why wont they ask someone help them and expand their circle of hired people?
That’s okay, it was a response to GalaxyEnd either way! If you’re curious about why the live game sometimes gets buggy patches, it’s really worth taking a look at the pinned messages here, they provide very useful information that might just shed more light on some concerns you’re having 

Buuut I wanna ask, to old players, was ||chibi glitch|| a bug before that made the game interesting? 
I am serious, whats the real issue? Small office? People can work from home anytime, without needing an office
I take it you don't have much experience in worklife or business finances... That really is not how things work out there
Maybe i dont, explain then
No, that's a whole different off topic discussion. You'll understand once you get a bit more experience in worklife 
You’re welcome to leave feedback about the gameplay, how the game (and bugs) make you feel is always important data for TGC to have.
However, purely about the technical aspects I really think the pinned messages explain everything.
There’s no need for other members to rephrase what’s already explained very well in the pinned messages here (as those are what’s considered official, and members words are not) 
I came to the chats thinking of something else actually
I noticed the enchantment hut doesn’t have a different soundtrack, but the cosmetic shop & hair salon do. I’m praaaayiiiiing for another calm, soft soundtrack there 
I forgot to turn on the music. I really should do that. Oops
From what I know and I have seen, the aviary music itself is amazing I would say. At first I was shocked and confused if this music was for aviary or did youtubers add it for sound effect
(Ignore my grammatical errors pls 😭)
I am looking at the pinned messages with both my eyes wide opened, i see nothing
Definitely! In some places it’s very reminiscent of Dreams
Going in right now to have a listen!
ahaha, oh, now I get the whole Christmas theme people were mentioning
The music in the village itself reminds me of so many things. Took me a while to get used to it (as it’s way more upbeat than we are used to with Vincent’s soundtracks) but it reaaaally fits the area so well 
Okay so on the subject of Revival, I remember submitting a bug report about how Hopeful Steward points you to Eden in the 4th quest, but the quest objective marker still pointed to Eden before I had completed Vault. This was before I did though, so I'm pretty sure people will still be confused as to what the objective is, I think the quest objective marker should be on the last realm you haven't yet completed.
I dont play with ingame music at all, i prefer playing with my own
I kind of think it's reminiscent of muzak mostly, sorry
Hairsalon or cosmetic shop definitely have the dreams leitmotif!!
Anyone game suffers frame drops opening the emote menu?
Game assumes that you already finished eden, it dosent checks the completion
But tbh... I am really really hoping for Aviary area to be as lively and celebratory as it looked in trailer

I was totally awestruck with the trailer so pleaseee TGC make Aviary similar to the trailer's aviary 
I agree actual aviary feels downgraded
Honestly, i dont like idea with party function in the aviary area, maybe implement the function where you can turn it off too?
Yeah that's what's going to be confusing. I think I said it wrong: I hadn't done Eden for the first time in beta yet so that's what is confusing.
Me too tbh
I am thinking maybe if they add quests that need to be done in groups, like the passage quests had, maybe then the aviary will look lively and kinda fun? It's just my opinion though
Pretty reasonable to report still, code should be codinh better
Just thinking about what kind of quest it would be, its not the best idea
Yeah, I think I might submit another bug report on it when I get around to it.
So far feels like the quest are very rushed and incomplete
i understood like first two and third not tbh😭
god i hope for updoot in 4 hour
I'm just praying they don't show up like that in live because a lot of people will be mad
It's still in beta, and subject to change however. But as of now we're still in complete mystery, updates can change that sooner or later however.
I was thinking that too... Yeah not much group quests to add.... But maybe some quest like if 3 people ring the bell of 3 temples, birds and flowers come out and spread in aviary?? But that would take a lot of patience... Preferably not a good idea lmao
i'll be 75% of those people
Season will lose its charm of being nostalgic, aka having longer quests with more lore
I'm not saying that they should shorten them give more context of what to do and where to go
Its already a better idea. We can turn those birds into spirits of other players after they land onto grass
Ponder that we have only been testing parts of the season, while other parts may have been in the internal build
Please no group quest that would be horrible
one way i think sky IS going in the right direction is the actually animated quests and not just spirits using emotes. more of that please and more expression in the eyes (and more spirit interactions like reactions to certain emotes)
This season does feel mysterious, I know we are still waiting on more updates but it just makes you wonder what it could be.
This season feels like it has no theme at all, honestly
Emotes=animation of emotes
If I see the past season quests that I have completed till now, I think the sanctuary season quests were a bit different and creative.
Yea I mean it feel like it was mostly made for fans of lore and nostalgia (no offense )
Dreams quests are the best in giving context of whats the idea of the season
most of the time, spirits just use normally accessible emotes in cutscenes, which feels repetitive and unnatural. these cutscenes have actual non-emote animations like in other games
Yeah for me no season has been able to be equally as good as dreams
Of course it feels unnatural, this game is breaking all rules of physics and etc. Plus, these are spirits, let them use what already exists. You communicate in this game by emotes, spirits do the same
Yeah but feels wrong and poorly done like saving way too much time and it doesn't look good in some spirits their arms and legs break
yeah, no, i'm not buying that, hopefully they keep doing these normal cutscenes
Its issues of animators, who dont look at the final result and cant rig properly
ok, i like to criticise what tgc did and is doing with the game, but not them specifically. those spirits just deserve normal animations and not reused emotes
Cough cough….
Animators are part of tgc
Are you trying to excuse a bad work with just forgive them?
that is not what i meant

Not you thatkoza
oh

I feel like they just ported the sky kid gameplay hitbox and used it for the spirits
Games use reused assets and animations all the time, it just saves time and effort for them
3d animation is very hard, so I can see why most of the animators at TGC cut corners by ussing the preset emotes instead of custom rigging the modules for every spirit
It's like 2d animation and tweening, tweening isnt lazy on the animators part it's a another way to make the animation a little easy on the workers and make some of the 2d animation more fluent
And I'm assuming it has to do with budget too and time managment, tgc already pumps out events and updates pretty quickly compared to other game companies, and they aren't the biggest too
so if they were to try to make achaul full animations of spirits it would completely overtake them.
(skybot plz don't assasinate) isn't it funny that hackers do the same?
Cough cough….
Have you seen their requirements of hiring an 3d artist? They just need to know how to do custom rigging and everything. Yes, the program that they use might not allow that fancy things but its still possible to even try looking at the final product with the same rig for everything and cleaning it up
No I do not
Im Sorry I mostly know more information about 2D animation rather than 3D
The budged part I don't agree they make good money but with the time I agree a bit but that's their fault by pushing way too much stuff way more than they can handle
with how expensive this game is getting, we deserve better
Bro, i would work for tgc for free just to point my little finger to their mistakes or fix it myself
that's why i think they should rather add something to actually have fun in the game and slow down with the tens of events, seasons and updates full of cosmetics and unnecessary temporary additions, instead of just pumping in new content constantly. unfortunately improving the game like this = less money
I am into coding and stuff and trust me its not that easy for that "fix it myself" 😔
I am mostly meaning the design parts in the fixing part, lol, i dont know coding that well
Btw since we do not have event chatting of beta anymore, on the scale of a toffee to macbook, how expensive do u think upcoming transparent web cape will be? Just give your opinions that's it. I am not asking for exact price lol.
idk from my experience if you get some scrap metal and hit something with a wrench a couple times it usually gets fixed or even upgraded lol
25 usd
I do plan on going into more detail in the live feedback channel but TGC really REALLY needs to take a seasons worth of time for just bug fixes and improvements. Its achually annoying given how many bugs and hindrances there are in the game that goes unnoticed.
hey all- returned to beta after a break. just opened new season. I can't finish the 2 nd quest - the message boat won't be placed, "violation" and service error message, stuck in water.
Saw reports of it in now closed beta season chat. Has anyone found away to get around this bug?
i think we should elect "messengers" that will in longer messages send feedback from a bunch of players so it's easier to read than a lot of smaller ones. is it a stupid idea?
I think it would get more dents and become worse from my experience
maybe 15-20
damn so this bug hasnt been fixed yet?? Saw reports from weeks ago. How did yall finish the quests??
A large coffee and something you bought for your friend
Honestly you all think 25 dollars is fair for just a cape wouldn't be better if it came with candles as well?
It is a stupid idea, at least it will be harder to read a whole wall of text
Golden iphone 15
yeah that's what i thought
I think some people finished them before the patch that broke that quest was released. Some didn't and are still having trouble. Just make sure to bug report it still, even in the newest patch
Nah, im just doing assumptions of tgc greed
I’m sure they fixed something to do with the violation messages at one point cause it used to flag anything and everything, not just the quest related boats, but I guess it didn’t fix the quest
Text wall<< groups of small messages pointing out the same thing
Oof thats rough cos i cant place the boat without it getting stuck.
25 dollars for a cape that we already have that has no candles attached to it is absurd. Tgc please dont price the cobweb cape at 25, 10 atMOST
It would be better if skybot could make groups of similar bug reports and then call it by the name, winch players would call themselves in the message context
nope it’s based on greed at this point 😭 and honestly i feel like they focus on making iap cosmetics 3 times as good as free cosmetics
When you are getting a cape for 25 while selling 4 others altogether for 10 (AP)
Thats the money grab strategy, my child
sad truth
But sky honestly will die if they continue doing that sky is not the game I would put money just for an overpriced item
Reminder to let tgc know your thoughts on pricing/what you’d pay for items in feedback, even though we don’t see pricing in beta it’s still valid feedback and whilst they likely have their price points worked out it can be helpful for them to see what players think of items and how they value them
We cannot make a bigger impact than the cat hair incident, sadly, our cries wont be heard
@pallid dome there's no need to make racial or national generalizations about people
Bleh, ok
generally speaking, you are allowed to dislike things the company does, but hostility and aggression won't be permitted
Arent group disking is hostility?
I don't understand the question
I dont know how to rephrase it else
if you'd like to explain what "group disking" is, my DMs are open
It’s so bugy someone helpp
What’s buggy specifically or just beta as a whole? 
what’s buggy? if you find beta bugs, make sure to report them in the bug reports channel 
ikr cant do anything in sky beta without server issues
Beta is always buggy, this is why it exists… to fix bugs……
I somewhat feel like they meant group disliking 
The season! I cant fly cuz I’ll be sent home I can’t buy cosmetics, I can’t see what I can buy in spirit trees. Issa mess (but it’s okay ik they will fix it)
Oooh, it spelled like that………..
will they still fix bugs if the season test chat is closed?? Cos i cant get passend quest 2 and have seen ppl report it weeks ago already.
A note for all involved in discussions about "greed," I've seen this conversation many times over years, and it rarely offers new or valuable information. It is often people echoing each other's frustrations, and not very constructive. It is allowed, but within reason, and as long as it's not devolving to personal insults. Before you decide that greed is the only motivation possible for a company, ask yourself if you know what it costs to run servers globally for millions of daily players. It's actually quite expensive. A lot of what's available in Sky is free, but of course with the hope that a fraction of players will help pay the bills
I wanted to bring this up but not interrupt things ^^
ok.
Then it isn't hostility, its just simple opinions
A TEXT WALL WHAAAAA
Ok. Game community was big even in the start of the first sky days and somewhat, servers could be affordable. But no, now we have thousands of usds of iaps and we still cant pay off the servers and etc. Yes, player base became bigger. Yes, there’s inflation. It dosent mean that making more iaps, that just don’t payoff, is a better choice. Wheres all of the people who work on the game? Why after 5-6 years of this game existing we cant get better theatment for paying more for this game each year? Why we still pay hundreds of dollars each year and get 2-3 funky features, winch barely affects gameplay?
yeah, i like that the game is free and ive spent hundreds on this game already but if it wasnt when it came out i woudn't be playing
Well that sounds like a rough time, make sure to drop bug reports in if you haven’t 
Also yeah Misha they’ll fix bugs if we keep sending them in report channels
Honestly same, I only started cause my friend forced me to go to aurora concert with her 
But we could also get something extra like candles for the purchase so it doesn't feel that expensive for just one item I feel like that would be a good incentive to motivate players to get the stuff
A good start I would say! I had a random player take me to aurora concert once, and I was so overwhelmed by this

Hai! Has the date for days of michief been released yet? I wanna prepare myself hehe
Iirc they stopped offering candle packs plus items as much because players didn’t like the extra costs and preferred just buying the items outright, but it’s worth feedback still - I miss candle packs with items purely cause I hoard them 
Noooo cooldown beloathed

Oh no it increased again, off I go elsewhere have fun yall 
I just noticed staff bumped the slowmode up here, but FYI it's not related to the conversation that was going on, it was just a decision to help keep chat focused when updates are slow. Being immune to slowmode I forget to check and sometimes break the rules 
beta server issue fix when thats on topic 💀 
@orchid nexus ik im just messing to get on topic
Yeah but the items are still overpriced
I don't know, I'm a mod, and just another player
Ah that's unfortunate, I only have 20 candles rn I'm so worried lol
probably near the end of october
I wasnt really paying attention to the convo but for a second i though you said "i dont know, I'm not a mod, I'm not a player" LMAO
You will have plenty of time to save dont worry begin saving now the event will probably begin a few days before Halloween
sometimes I'm not a mod, and I'm not playing Sky. today I'm in training course for AWS architecture, and it actually has been opening my eyes to how complex the setup for serving Sky globally must be
yoo is that another nerd 
Some of my college stuff has been covering the technical size for project management, I've actually considered using sky as a example for an assignment 
when will the beta update?
in less than one minute !
who knows, 2.5 hours? more?
It's been 94 days on this godforsaken server with no beta doot I my legs inside out my mouths purple I think I see the light alef is that you?!?
Oj jeez cooldown
it's been like a week or 2 lol
Two weeks actually
It's been 17 years..
the legends speak of The chosen one that will arrive one day, and bring the doot to this land by pulling it out of The sacred wafomaker....
wafos: syrup, whipped cream, fruit, or turkey and gravy?
you know what would be a nice, A house for our sky kid live and we can customize how big or small the house can be. how many floors and much much more. kinda like animal crossing. Plus it would be nice to have sky kids draw art on the wall for the floor so other players can see the art lol
back when I was playing animal crossing pocket camp, I quickly utilized the ability to customize my little campervan. I placed a giant plush of the terrifying easter bunny in the middle of the room, and surrounded it with fire and garden gnomes. my camper became a place of worship for the new eldritch god of fire.
this is how I imagine any skykids' rooms to look like as well, if ever get housing at the aviary.
imagine if we had to pay rent
Don't give them ideas
gettibg evicted from your 1 bed 0 bath in aviary village bc you couldnt pay 100 candles monthly rent
Id rly love a little house space for our skids i think it'd rly bring the game more alive now with shared spaces!
Lol, if we could buy/rent a house in sky, i would stay in it alone and never leave... just like irl...
ello, havent been on for a hot minute, does anyone know where aviary spirit shops are?
even doe i gots 6 candles
I had a look at the concept art for revival, as much as I love Aviary Village it actually looks so much better there, plus the Aviary tower seemed to be on the other side and I imagine the large portal area would have been behind it but it seems like they went for a different approach for the portals
for now, still updates and quests
Fingers crossed 
I'm a bit cynical sometimes so when you respond like that it helps to put a little bit of hope in me
I think also they probably removed the river thing going because it might have made the beginning circle too cramped, it feels better to walk around with more land
Aviary in beta currently looks nothing like the trailer and I’m salty about that 🫠
And the trailer had smacked on top that it was in development footage, clearly labelled as WIP
stuff changes a lot in gamedev
Yeah but change the main thing of aviary the wind paths will be very disappointing for those who aren't in beta and were expecting that in the next season
Yeah Cy I’m salty about the changes. I really liked the trailer aviary. Particularly the building style, shape, and layout. It looked a bit like a Mediterranean town where you could get lost in the little streets between houses
dou guys think we'll test winter events soonnn🥹 mischief felt so rushed to me
❄️ Grandma's defrosting state increases
Tbh that style felt more like main street usa in Disneyland, bit too modern for aviary layout
She is in the ice with Mariah Carry
i love the aviary style we have atm, it feels more modern but about the same as dreams/performance/rythm area but feels more welcoming than most areas in valley do (also current home gets cramped for me on live so i really appreciate a space that is a lot bigger)
hi guys why does it still show 10.1 on Login interface

They legit put WIP and in development in the trailer wich usually means things are subject to change. And again theirs 3 last quests thst arnt available. Just have faith and patience 🤷
Days of Feast 2023, come closer to me.
Days of fortune 2024 please be upon me
Nah they'll do it at the end of this season 😔
looking at the cooldown looks like we went off topic lol
that's not gonna come until 0.24.0 it'll be a while lol
Hello
I have NOT been on beta for a while
what happened to the seasonal spirit shop¿
Known issues and updates haven't mentioned it (unless my eyes skipped over them
)
go left of where it used to be and into a building
Mods said the cooldown was just to account for the fact there isn’t much to talk about in beta as of right now with an update drought, not anything to do with the ult gift discussion from earlier.
Next doot is prolly gonna be a big one
Imagine they make us wait another week and they say in the beta update post that this is HUGE, you get all excited and you read the post and it says
"We added waving bellmaker!
"
"Minor text fixes"
"We changed the potion of the butterflies a little to the left"
bug fixes and improvements are always welcome
Next update for season is not going to come until another few weeks. But we might get an event test update
im not sure itll be a few weeks since then the season will have to be live already
Unless there’s no need to test whatever the final changes to 0.23.0 are (I’d assume just cosmetics icons and the ult being available), we’ll surely see even just a small doot soon before the season comes to live.
It’ll be a while until we see the first build for 0.23.5, which would include the second half of Revival as well as Days of Feast testing.
If we go by previous release times for a new season, the build must already have been submitted to the various platforms now. Any new updates in beta will not be able to make it for Live release
"+ crash fixes" doing forget that 
I think maybe people forget that you can’t just click a button and all the changes in a beta build will be published in Live
Tgc is being real when saying this season is like no other season, bc even the beta testers can't see the final testing of the build yet even when the next season is approaching in 2-3 weeks ☠️
Truly like no other season ☠️
That's how all season testing works, xx.0 and xx.5 are tested separately. Quests are split in half
I was hoping that Aviary would be like the video they published months ago. The opposite happened and there was no even resemblance ,There are also many errors in the game. I wish they would take a break without a new season so that they could make a comprehensive overhaul and improve the game and come back with a better version. 
Anyone has an idea how long will beta testing be on for, just an idea like a month or so. Wondering
Why hasn't the beta service been updated for so long?
Hello once again beta folks!
Again I’m wondering if anyone is a pc tester and has some time to do the black shard in beta today.
If you have time, could you send me some pictures in the screenshot channel?
Ping me whenever!
Beta testing is constantly active, with no set end as updates are constantly made. Though if you're looking for invites there is little pattern between them
Sure I’ll login later today and run it
@karmic frigate thank youuu again! Seems like pc and mobile are synced in location, just not the plants 
Thank you so much for the effort again!
Hello
Hi 
i have a question what happen to the season heart?
i don't- what? why would someone apply to pc beta on purpose and not actually use it?
the application form tells you what specs you need and you're REQUIRED to say if your pc is strong enough
How do I apply for PC testing?
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScpZpkZNQWPBRE6lrrHrjp2OqWppN3mAu72RCvAYZb8S0JsLg/viewform
Selection is pure random btw so pray to RNGesus so you get selected 
oh I have been praying so much
i have a question what happen to the season heart?
I answered you here: #beta-looking-for-group message
They’re not in this build, it’s a bug!
Just checked the minimum of PC stats out of curiosity for Sky and I'm Surprised. Didn't expected such Stats for PC, I thought it would be lower when it's also on phones.
Only thing that's a little behind is my graphics card (why always the graphics card??)
Not that It's gonna be problem, if it can handle other games where I have slightly below minimum it should not be that bad.
Just saying...
I'm just mobile beta tester. But I cannot wait when it comes live on PC too.
Do you think ppl are tonna be able to mod sky??? Since being on pc is gonna make that easier. That or online games are harder to mod 🤔 not suggesting ppl should but i was curious about this
I feel like mods will not be allowed as this is still a multiplayer/mmo game. It might be considered as hacking, if you had a mod where everything is free or have something in game that's not supposed to be here.
That’s not really a topic that can be discussed here, nor is it beta related!
Hacking / modding is against TOS, regardless of the platform and is an issue TGC handles
On different topic... what days commonly beta gets the updates? I didn't watched much on dates so... I saw that around monday, tuesday?
No season hearts, no ultimates 😔
@mental solar I've usually noticed it on Wednesday but we are currently on a doot drought
Yeah, I can see that. I'm so impatient 
Currently on Cr of AC and... huh... I might be the exception. My hearts didn't dissapeared
I mean the beta is still unfinished with builds and tgc is still cooking so,
HOLD UP, LET. THEM. COOK. 
Yeah. as plenty of people already said here.... this update's gonna be very beefy 
Beefier than all the beta skids who did pull-ups? 
Has anyone transferred Sky Beta to a new device? I love Beta but my phone is slowly starting to dislike it so was thinking of switching to a tablet instead. I've transferred Live before, so does it work in the same way for Beta or is it permanently glued to my phone? 
Don't think anyone can get beefier than jaws
Yeah you can transfer beta from one (android) phone to another (android) phone/tablet in the same way you can in live
However if you're on iOS... I'm not sure if a testflight invite transfers
Oh cool that's good to know, cheers! I use an Android phone so transferring to an Android tablet I would have hoped works in the same way. 
I transfered on one android phone to another using smart switch with no problem, Sky Beta was still here (though you might need to sign back up using your account and being able to update)
As long as you use the same account for Google Play, you're good!
I love the Memory Whisperer in Aviary
#beta-screenshots-videos message
what about mods like (certain funny valve shooter i for some reason can't say the name of) where they only change what you see
terms of service is pretty clear that mods of any kind are strictly forbidden
Hi, that’s not really a topic that can be discussed here, nor is it beta related!
Hacking / modding is against TOS, regardless of the platform and is an issue TGC handles
sorry i just replied to someone
morning beta, hope you're doing well!
just wanted to say that i’m able to play the beta on both my iphone and ipad w no problems!! as long as you still have the same login you used it should work fine
I see thank you, i was just wondering if anyone knows when would everyone be able to play
Daily reminder to eat your wafos 🧇🧇
More time tgc spend on beta builds-less time we get to even check anything and give tgc time to fix issues for later
maybe they're getting something bigger ready
Yes, I would assume something big is coming that none of us are expecting. We still have time, however. TGC hasn't yet released the trailer for new season and that still gives me hope.
And yet, chances that we will even have time to change something big, is much smaller. This still concerns me, even though, theres no season announcement in live yet. In past, we had seasons polished enough right before the live season ended, this time its just a ticking clock with a bomb
I have the same feeling...season ended in live and there's no ults yet and the friendship trees still appear empty
Is mischief ended in beta?
to be honest, for me the season could even release in December, as long as they improve it
Everyone who is in beta should be able to play, unless there is a specific bug or server error
Not sure I understand your question
If the development is hard they could try delaying it and apologize for it as this project must be ready big.
Sometimes I worry about (possibly tired) devs hearing us so often as we deal with drought.
Best they can is to release the season in November, just after Halloween event.
I would honestly be down for this i think for such a season a bit more time in the oven would be very needed! Edit:
Plus we have multiple events to keep us company!
Consistency is key but also a hazard.
TGC just make the seasons a bit shorter XD, like 10 (70 days) or 9 (63 days) weeks long.
Just saw ur edit although i do wish tgc had more time for season developements i dont think they should shorten how long they last. It can be a hassle for free to plays to get all the candles needed to get every item even when theirs 70 days. So imagine having even less time then that
then give us more sc's everyday? i don't think a LITTLE less grinding would do a lot of harm. and besides, the idea of exchanging currencies is not that bad
If seasons were shorter They would scale down the costs of each item as such. Older seasons were much shorter but the nodes were all much cheaper too.
If you can exhange red candles with event tickets....
WHY CANNOT WITH SEASONAL CANDLES 





A bit OP XD
Okay but like....thatd be rly cool theirs not much use for SC candles even with the elder masks. This could be a rly cool idea especially if you played a season in rly late and is missing a few but dont have enough days to catch up!!!
When do you guys think season of revival will begin? Usually when a season ends the next season is already completed and fully fledged on beta, but we don't have the ultimate gifts for season of revival in beta yet. How long do you think it'll take for the season to be completed and released on live servers?
@heavy ice, Beta testers do not receive information in advance and no one knows when something will happen. Please check out #news for Live announcements and #beta-announcements for what's currently being tested in Beta. 
god can't they at least show us a sneak peek at the next update
Maybe the reason they can't do that is because it would spoil it. But I do agree they should show a sneak peek without revealing the biggest things in my opinion.
i just wanna know a n y t h i n g
Sneak peek the foot pendant
i'd actually be alright if there werent ultimate gifts for this season besides the pendant (since they said they wanted to do something different with this one)
ults feel like such a contentious topic in the playerbase that it'd be great to have one less season for ppl to complain about missing the ults for lol
I would not 💀 unless they did it to bring past ults back 
i am (conspiracy theory) thinking if they have the season start soon but PC release in the middle of it then we dont have an ult or have just one so that the new players could get it if they start in the middle of the season
That didn't happen for Switch or PS, iirc
PC users suffering moment
no, and it was a bummer
They're really making us WAFO, what with the increased slowdown, huh? Man I really wonder what's going on, it's been weeks since the last doot. But I'm not complaining either. I'm just really wondering what's going on internally. I mean, TGC does have a lot on their plate right now given these things:
-Mischief
-Revival trailer
-TS Voting Poll
-PC release and Starter Pack details for PC
-Double Candles and Hearts event
-Potentially Feast testing down the line, as well as any other potential new events
This is probably why they're making us WAFO, because big things are being planned and more that we don't know about.
Okay fine, a sneak peek:
The next update will include ||patch notes with bullet points||! They'll even include a new feature ||bullet point adding to the rock's story|| 
|| ❤️ the rock expanded universe, don't take rocks for granite ||
||that's how we roll||
enough for me i guess
||Yeah, that's good enough for me.|| But I was just saying you guys do have a lot on your plate right now, but we appreciate your work, I was just stating that TGC as a company is pretty busy right now and I'm excited to see what TGC has in store for us in the future!
please don't share outside the beta channels this is sooper dooper secret content spoilers
Nah no worries Link, I get where the antsy feeling comes from!
|| please say you have a partnership with scishow for the monthly rock box ||
Wait but this is actually great news, we’ve been wondering ||how the rock is doing… where is the rock… is the rock okay||😔
I have a sneaking suspicion it was the rock that convinced the beta TS to not show up last week, but I don't have any definitive proof....yet
Can we get a rock statue in skyshop please 🛐 I need for my sky merch shelf
Maybe the rock wants to visit us sometime too… living in the shadows all this time, we understand
ok wait but (actual outer wilds spoilers) || what if the rock is quantum? ||
||The rock is a lie||
||Great King of Evil, Rockdorf||
|| demon king? secret stone? ||
||Psycho Mantis?||
Update beta sky ?
Nah they should just sell rocks, like a singular rock, maybe with googly eyes.
Or a fake rock-looking rock that has a STAR feature giving you a rock shoulder accessory
...oh wow the cooldown time is so long
exactly what i was thinking
It's just a secret shop in the sky shop (like it's obviously there but it's clearly pushed away as a secret) where they just sell a singular rock
It will be kinda funny if there is a massive rock in aviary that keep changing location if you aren't looking at it
Idk if I rather it be a giant rock or a tiny rock, like imagine a weeping angel type scenario except it's a tiny rock that's completely harmless
i thought of that too but if the rock had unremarkable silhouette i doubt anyone will notice that, unless it's placed specifically for you to see
new season releasing in November stocks are going up tbh
Probably alongside the PC release
Sky really doesn't have a lot of objects and detail, i think it would be really hard not to notice it
Enchantment came out 2 weeks after the Android release, being the first season with an area and quests.
TLP came out a week after the Switch release, being the first crossover season and the only with dialogue.
The Aurora Concert came out right on the Playstation release, being the first season to utilize megaservers
Rumors say the PC release is coming out on November, so not only can we expect Revival to be released in November, but also for it to be a landmark in some way
I'm guessing November 27, 2023. Why so specific? Because I'm making a bet 
I think client-side modifications (graphics/sound updates) should be allowed, as they do not disrupt the online experience in any way whatsoever. Imagine finally giving a soundtrack to Starlight Desert, or a Sky Optifine 
But things like infinite currency, infinite flight, or powerful hacks shouldn't be allowed.
i mean if it look like one you saw everytime you wouldn't bash a lash at it, unless it's so eye-catching
The thing is why would we want the rock to be obvious
It's stayed hidden this whole time so why change that aspect of the rock
i'm not talking about patch note rock, im saying what if we got a rock that's like weeping angel in Aviary
Which is based off of patch note rock
im saying i don't want it to be patch note rock 2.0, i want it to be weird little rock you saw every time you're in Aviary
The place is in some kind of mountain and steep hill and a ruined tower with flying debris, so yes i wanted it to be obvious
There is a rock there? 
i think it's next to the prairie temple in the big cloud (theory)
I don’t think the season is only starting in November… how would mischief fit into that 
Still believe they’re hiding some type of surprise for Revival
an optifine for skyy would be amazing a necessary
SURPRISE!!! the rock brings Sparkler Parent ✨
(For reasons I’m wishful thinking and this is not official information😭)
the rock has the items of sparkler parent
What do we do with the ♥ from this season?
i assume they would be used for ultimate rewards that just aren’t in the game yet
- Some cosmetic trees are bugged it seems,
- the hearts are not obtainable right now, they were available in a previous build
- maybe they come back 🧇
- we assume it’s all a bug

No
How do we know which items we'll get when we buy them from the spirits for this season? They're just circles and I'm not sure which item I'll get
🧇
I suggest tarot reading
I see, so we would have to guess? XD
Time for some sky roulette! 
Or Sky bingo. Beta Edition!
I got shoes 
Didn't know that mannequin got feet
Yeah at the moment it’s really impossible to tell, before (street vendor era) it was a little bit easier to figure out, but right now it seems to be all shuffled around!
Sky roulette indeed
surprise surprise, a boat, a cape, some shoes or a bowtie 
(Maybe the rock is hiding somewhere too, who knows….
)
I know the hearts disappeared during the last update, but do you think they'll come back? If so, what do you think the ult for this season will be? Will we even have one? Will this be the last question? Will I have waffles tomorrow? 🧇
(shovels more wafos onto your plate)
goes up to mannequin wearing boat
Okay, so SURELY one of these is the boat, right?
gets hair
HUHHH?!? 
The test version bought the season's wardrobe can't be displayed, don't know what to do.
you have to wait until next update is out, by then it might get fix but remember to feedback
thanks
Are we gonna walk right into live with this build I’m telling you 😭😭😭 It’s so full of bugs and unfinished things
i doubt it 
Very much doubt we will. TGC is probably testing something internally that may or may not make it into beta. But if it does, I'm sure we'll get an update soon.
Imagine
-a zoom feature
-for the sweaty PCs, 120 FPs and 8K
-RTX and/or Ray Tracing
-Custom shaders
-Permanent night
-Pre-corrupted Wasteland
-Custom music for places that don’t have it
-custom textures
-custom UI
-maybe even reduce the honk noise

All hairs are the owl hair mod when.
mod that makes all honk particles gigantic 
Really REALLY smoll Krills mod. A weapon to surpass tiny crabs.
backreading and missed opportunity to say sneak feet
like this?


Nooo! Help me, the mods are- oh, never mind, crisis averted 
Why the no emoji @ashen tusk
permanent night would prob be the best addition imo, my eyes would be grateful too
It's painful to think that we will never see this...
just the 120fps and 8k part
Sky having a bunch of graphical issues that aren't even fixed and yall already wanting 8k with raytracing
Custom settings for photosensitivity would be nice
normal settings at all 😭 ive said this before but sky has such rudimentary settings
Also very much doubt there'd be mods considering Sky runs on an in-house engine that only TGC knows how it works
Also mods aren't even allowed so lol
looks at nintendo games yeah that doesn't really stop people
Regardless it's still against TOS so it shouldn't even be discussed here, a shepherd has already asked that we don't discuss modding
Woken up and see. Still no doot 
I wonder what takes them so long to work on? I would love to see other skykids here too not just randomly in saloon/oob.
Wishing they work to do something really worth the season, because right now, it is not it🥲
big gates 
I'm sure they're doing their best 🙏 let's be patient and understanding 
guys question what happen to the vampire cape?
In a glitch between updates some testers lost it
hii, the start dates of the new season and days of mischief are still unknown?
Long answer: !omgomgwhen
Short answer: They haven’t been announced yet.
they’re both kinda long shush 
No one knows when things will happen in Live
Any Live announcements will be made in #news!
Next update will be bug fixes and improvements
Don't forget the 
nah needs the ™️
🧇 What kind of waffle is everyone making while we wait for the next doot? 🧇
Waffle with tears
Wafos piled up like a mountain 🧇🧇🧇🧇🧇X10000
let them cook us the gourmet
We've had longer droughts than this so it's funny to see screenshots are being taken over by doot memes already 
Beta kids these days smh
Back in my day we had to do an Eden run to get the update
Back in my days i didn't even have beta access
PC has a much, much higher ceiling
Given the delay in the update, I'm assuming there will be some changes as well.
perhaps the addition of item icons, some changes to the new Season Area
the fight between staying up to play sky or sleeping and hoping when i wake up the doot is here
how do you people even "play" sky, there's nothing to do after a candle run other than playing music or wandering aimlessly
TGC tends to push for socialising, but everyone’s got their own thing they find: quite a few people look for scenic spots or OOBs, or you might have oddballs like me who treat the candle run like a racing game
I suppose you can approach the game as a daily-ish entertainment with various aspects you can take part in or not. It doesn’t have to be that serious
leading around moths is kind of its own activity and playing music sheets so other people can join is pretty much how ive spent most of my time since aurora other than cr but keep in mind i usually play on switch which is a lot easier to stay engaged on 
Normally when I play sky with friends I tend to play a lot of hours because its really fun, tho sadly I rarely see 2 or 3 of my friends within a group being online at the same time, it's 1 most of the times
hanging out with friends, doing quests i havent been bothered to do yet, taking photos
it's quite therapeutic for people who have day job too btw, being a silly thing and then dress up silly
Personally i used to be a raging cr fanatic but nowadays i focus more on socializing or let my skykids sleep in odd place.
You play it.
||I kinda hope it’s the one part of the TOS that’s slightly changed to allow some, but not all, mods||
yeah i wish there was more to do
If it’s not gaining any advantages on the gameplay I feel like some mods are okay such as darker visuals to reduce the eye soaring bright lights or something to help with color blind people should be fine anything to make the experience much better
If they finally add Minigames (players vs players) sky would improve a lot. So that you can have more fun with your friends a part from exploring and gossiping
Yes, or finally adding music to the Starlight Desert
When it will be update beta sky?
in less than a minute
It's been a while since the last beta updoot
I wonder what's cooking
!wafo
skybot's asleep
i guess even it's tired of waiting
Hopefully something that will make us say wow TGC is back at their prime
But I'll keep my expectations a low as possible I don't want to be disappointed
I just think they're preparing for PC release
yeah I can't imagine how busy they are right now
Same
Hope the're not crunching
me too, dev crunch sucks
Tgc should stop working on the PC release to focus on the doot 
[Extremely loud Incorrect Buzzer]
I was making. A joke
Oh I know I was making a joke of my own >.< 
Day 15 of waiting for a beta update 😔😔
Tgc should stop working on two embers and focus on the doot too /j
Tgc should stop working on Sky and focus on feeding the rocks outside the office -.-
Tgc should stop working on aviary beta to focus on the next doot 
Next beta update when

Let TGC cook the WAFOs 
Crab research project
CRAB DOOT CONFIRMED
Hey all, taking a break from my current crab research project for a second:
Video game modding (as in modification) for Sky is against the game's TOS, and our server rules against discussing TOS-breaking behavior haven't changed. Those rules apply also to the conversations that have popped up the last couple days related to modding the PC version.
I need to ask folks to not bring up the topic anymore—we may remove posts without warning if they continue to bring the topic up.
Appreciate everyone's understanding! 
