#beta-discussion
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not really, there's three blue capes just in aurora, three on lightseekers (that whole season's theme was blue), nintendo switch blue...
you have a home in the Sky Queendom!
It does feel underused in pants but capes doesn't really feel like it.
If I'm not mistaken I can see ~15 blue capes on the wiki
what if whole pink season
i'm starting to see a pattern in when people beg for the old color back. it like... comes in waves... 
Blue pants wanters have schedules
I usually only talk on skycord at night tho
we truly need more pink and purple cosmetics, all the other colors have had their fair share... but some players are very weird towards more """"feminine"""" colors
but new wounded warrior's pants really looks like dipped in mud for me
I want pink pants to further enhance my tiny grandpa bloom look
Also @rare carbon it doesn't help there's a lighting bug on stuff that make them look more yellow. The green without the bug (idk how people trigger it I think they mentioned hide n seek fixes the discoloration) actually looks kinda nice. I'd still prefer the blue color tho.
Pink, purple, and green really need more love imo. Maybe they could do a pink/purple outfit for bloom and a green outfit for nature?
Cute green outfit. Green pants and green head sprout
the new fortune outfit is kind of purple, I'd love something new for bloom
The fortune pants look more maroon / reddish to me
Flower.... Earrings
I want so many things for bloom. Dangly flower earrings or like earring ribbons would be cute
Any sort of earrings would be welcome at this point
especially ones that aren't hidden behind 99% of hairs..
wind chime earrings 
.....why do I actually want that now 
AAAAAAA 
i feel like it could be a really cute replacement to the windchime thats crashing everyones game- maybe with a lil sparkle effect like when u use spells
omg it could like jingle every now and then when you wear them 
YES ^^
Guys I is the fireworks stick going to be fixed? I can’t buy it in the shop…?
If you got the first one you won't be able to get the new version
The first one doesn’t show anything….?
what’s the fireworks stick
the main constellation one?
The stick that shoots love heart fireworks ε(*・ω・)_/゚:・☆
Oh yeah how do I get it 
If you already bought the white fireworks staff from the store, you can't get it again. People who got the one that was in the store during the first run of days of love can't get the new version that was released. It won't show in the store.
There were two items in the store for days of love and if you got it when the icon showed WIP then you can't get the new one.
If you never got it before and it isn't showing in the in game shop then report it as a bug.
Thank you 🙏🏻 o(╥﹏╥)o I got the WIP one oopsie
Me too 🤝 it happens. Sometimes even the WIP icons aren't safe.
Y’all just don’t like change i stg
Please keep the old color of the spirit wounded warrior's outfit.
And that's okay, we're all allowed to have our own opinions /nm
I like the old ones too

Everyone make sure whether it's to keep the cosmetics currently the same or make them go back to a different version, voice your opinion in #beta-feedback ! The more voices saying the same thing the more likely it is to be heard.
Wait… windchime??? Crashing???? H u h
The windchime from this season caused people to crash when they attempted to place it in a previous build
Are there any way to complete the second SOR quest?
i think for the 2nd quest you need to use the shared space and place a certain item?
. . . I don't know how to. . .
in the seasonal area, the big stone near the guide should allow you to enter the shared space, and then you fly up to where the spirit is and place the items it gives you
. . . Thank you . . .
i haven't been playing beta or sky at all recently, im sorry 
was eden updated in this last doot? cause i swear there are lanterns in the pre-statue area that are either moved or added
there’s definitely some changes, cause there wasnt a lantern that close to the first pipe before
anyways guess who went to eden after forgetting they already did an eden run this week, but was too stubborn to go back so they got like 5 statues because those were the only ones they missed
So this ult projector is basically a night/dark mode option 👀
Sorry if this has been asked, but is it okay to get the ults now? Or should I still hold off
How much do you guys think the yeti cape will be?
I think it's $14.99, pretty sure it was posted in the news channel already at some point. ^_^;
is the scepter still available? it says it is in the prop menu but it’s not showing up in the shop 😭
it can be found in the premium shop 🛒💰- if it’s not there for you, it might be because you purchased the old scepter prototype
ah well i did not purchase it so guess i will make a bug report 😔
It was WIP icon in older build iirc. Did u not buy?
I honestly like the new color of the wounded warrior's outfit
i do not believe so as i had a lot of school stuff to do 😣
Where can i get the scepter from?
Regular iap shop
Its showing blank for me
@drowsy walrus
⤴️
So it will come to me after next update or smt? Or have i lost it😭?
If you bought it when if first came out, you're out of luck and won't have it. At all. If you bought it recently after the love event came back, it should be in your inventory.
most likely you won’t be able to get it, nope 
The hide and seek trick to see the colours of cosmetics without the lighting bug is you need a friend to initiate the game, then you as the hider will "extinguish your light" and then you just have almost 2 minutes to take pics 
Where can I buy the staff??
In game shop
Is the new umbrella gonna be In the shop or pass when the next season comes? I don't know if one will come out or not, I just saw one in a beta video.
it's an iap for next the days of fortune 
Ohhh, all I saw is that it was in the shop so I'm Just wondering if it's gonna be bought via shop or constellation.
I hope they provide a fix for the large amount of players who bought the prototype model... Breaks my heart that it's locked forever.
you can still get in live if you really want it
not all of us are destined to be magical girls 
Imagine if TGC sees this and decide to have a Magical Girl season to make us all feel that way. Then we'll all be saying, "Heart scepter who?"
what's aurora if not the magical girl season
Being meguca is suffering
become meguca
I become meguca. For meduka!
My city now
The ult is so PRETTY
their tops but not the pantsss theyre all purple 
How would I join this beta testing stuff-?
It's explained in detail in #beta-faq , I'd strongly suggest reading there to get all the information. The short version is, you need to wait for an invite wave and then use the link provided during it to get in. (It's sent in #beta-signup-info , if that channel is not clickable for you get the invites role from #beta-faq .)
Good luck!
(By the way, talking about beta stuff is open for anyone here in the beta channels, in case you're wondering.)
Ah shoot, I didn’t think to check that channel
Ty for helping!
Didn't skybot used to explain how to join beta? Where is skybot? 
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here!
Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!
Does anyone here know if the bug of some phones not rendering text was fixed in the beta? It's been a known issue since October and literally ruined my relative's season experience for not being able to read anything :/
‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️ PLEASE TGC ‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️‼️
PLEASE CHANGE THE UMBRELLA BACK TO THE ORIGINAL DESIGN AND THE WASTELAND PANTS AND CAPE BACK TO THE DARK BLUE AND GOLD COLOR I BEGGGGG
they won't hear you unless you send it to #beta-feedback 
i prefer the green version of the pants and cape 😭 they’re actually really pretty and i’m glad we’re getting more dark green items
When will day of feast come?
Same, i dislike green colors, but I love dark blue colors and gold, and my partner finally found interest in taking part in seasons for this dark blue cape
Tmrw
if you're talking beta - too late, buddy
if it's live - next reset, please check the #news regularly
Alr thanks!
I have a question that maybe was already exposed but, why the proyector doesnt charge our light? Somebody else got this sensation?
I think that fire recharges us. The Projector is not fire. It’s kinda like electricity
They’re holograms of mantas, not actually mantas
Yeah that too
I've never had such experience in beta: I have hundreds of seasonal candles and I have no motivation to unlock seasonal spirits. (old worn green cosmetics). I miss the positive vibe and vibrance of colors regardless season theme. I think colorful spirits can mourn and be sad as well.
Tbh I'm loving the dark vibe this season has
Sky is already very colorful, most seasons are colorful, sky is so bright it's blinding
It's good to have some darker seasons. Even if it's not your taste. Having some darker cosmetics also adds ✨ variety✨ to the games and more dressing possibilities out of the colorful and cheerful vibe Sky has all over the place. Not everyone likes colorful things, let TGC please us, people with dark souls. Kidding... Maybe not
I'm really digging this season 👀
I agree with variety but with amount of darker seasos I can less agree: Assembly, Season of the Little Prince, Shattering are all offering dark or very dull items which I don't see as many times amongst friends constellation and those items can't have much color variety because dull is ... dull. 
All in all, I see less dull items on Skykids from a season after its hype ended. And I still believe colorful could be dark soul themed as well, several games and artists can make them vibrant yet dark.
However regardless my own opinion I'm glad this season will be successful and digful for some in terms of cosmetics
We could get krill cape with red underside……… but…
Assembly was dark?
Anyway, it's dull... For you
As I previously stated, people might like it. I personally like the "dull" cosmetics, as you call them. And again, not every cosmetic will please everyone. These cosmetics are not your style and maybe not as many people will use them, but there are people who like and use them. And giving them less options just for the sake of "pretty and colorful" is simply not fair.
Let TGC add more variety into the game. What is dull for you might be other person's dream cosmetic that they'll use everyday (until they like something else better lmao)
I do agree that things can ve vibrant and dark, but that's just not the season's theme and we already had a very, very vibrant season.
Assembly was dull in terms of vibe and colors. You took a turn from my original statement and missed my messages saying a season can still be dark. I don't believe at all aurora was that vibrant. Many whites, dark green cape, dark green pants.
The Krill cape is my second favorite cape
The deep dark red underside would look so cool 😭
🤨 I addressed that it can still be dark and vibrant on the last paragraph, wdym?
Aurora has very colorful and unique shaped capes. Light blue with golden rings, green with golden details, cyan. I'm also taking into account the seasonal area. Aurora is the proof a season can be vibrant and dark. But that's just not Remembrance proposal. You didn't add much else to the debate, so everything else you said is already addressed on the previous message.
I don't feel my opinion needs to be addressed. I just wanted to freely express it. Moreover I already told I'm happy if some people dig many dark greens. But it seems to me it just disturbs you if someone has different opinion. I didn't want any debate at all as well

I expressed my opinion and a clear fact: you can't make big variety from dull colors as with vibrant colors because they don't stand out from each other (see: LPP capes and how many players don't wear them). And to quote your words freely, what you find vibrant and variety could be not so for many others 
We're having a conversation, that's how conversations work lmao
You take what one person says and talks about it
I never said I didn't like vibrant seasons and people shouldn't like it xD
Flight is my favorite season, the most vibrant season so far
I just said that I don't feel like Remembrance is that kind of season
I wanna live in a world where the scepter isn't bugged and I can actually get another chance to obtain it. 
You used words addressing and debate.
Again, my simple fact statement stays above that's all 
English is not my first language
For me Addressing simply means : Talked about
And Debate because we're both giving our opinions on a matter and discussing about it
Also, so no more misunderstanding can be made. I'm using Discussing as in Talking
Just to complete, cause I forgot about it before :
I feel like most people don't use many TLP cosmetics because there's nothing that fits them well. That just makes the need for darker cosmetics higher. How are people gonna use it if there's nothing to fit it with?
apparently disagreeing on something and talking about it is a bad thing now??
Hi
I like the vibe of the seasonal area. It has atmosphere. Well done, artists! 
Do we have any hint where the next season will be?
I'm dying for a Forest season, like a campsite!
With cabins, a river, waterfall
Super cosy vibes that rains Periodical, like the treehouse
tbh i don't want a fun season after remembrance, give me more depressing stuff
too early to seek for hints, don’t you think 😅
I mean, we did have an Aurora mural during performance 👀
I think performance also hinted at shattering, maybe?? It has he earthquake stage effect, and the only earthquake in Sky is during the eruption
Well then...maybe the mural in the new seasonal area hints at something more...
our very first season hinted
but i also want a season in prairie bc im too convince with my half baked garden/farm ideas
I can dream, ok? 😭
I need a farm season, omg!!
I don't think TGC will ever make one considering all the ligh creatures lore, but still— 😭
i never realize how much hints were put in Performance until someone point it out lol, sneaky
.
i did noticed the eden thing mainly bc of how eerie whenever it background came up
Let's pay extra attention to Remembrance murals
We never know 👀
Didn't Abyss had no hint for next season? I only remember Flight did it in the season trailer and 4th quest
I can't remember any tbh
If we submit feedback that we still want the scepter, they might do something about it like they did with the Aurora voice. Just an fyi 
the accident wasn't your fault, it's time to move on
I’m not moving on from the scepter
Ever
@spark lance I think you’ve been told already that beta is presently closed; in the meantime, you might need to wait for the release of beta invites since there is currently no demand for new testers — Refer to #beta-faq and grab the beta invites ping role to be pinged & find out when invites will reopen in the future. 
Moreover, since the #beta-looking-for-group is a place for players to arrange in-game meetings, please save your questions for this discussion channel 
my biggest dream rn is too wreck my account so much that it will instantly crash upon entering the game cause I bought some corrupted item just at the right time and wore it with the most obscure cosmetic ever
That happened to me when we first tested T2 capes, I wore the cape long enough in Orbit for it to register so I was locked out for like, 2-3 days
Maybe less I don't really remember
im not mad, i understand your confusion however since tone can't be accurately conveyed through text all the time 
The hell happen here, imma turn into a sailor moon with me new scepter
dark made a friend :з
Scepter is not avaible for me... It's not appearing in the shop at all, and in my inventory, it appears grey
if you bought it on release - no scepter for you
I got em from my Alt
Me back up account incase if the new cosmestic aren’t available on my main account
This explains that! :°) Thanks!
Is it not advisable to buy new items on day one on beta?
Most of the time, it's safe to get them, though from time to time there is one where it doesn't get you the item. Sometimes it's just throwing candles away, sometimes it blocks you from getting the item completely. The ø symbol, for example, is a fairly sure sign that something is off and you should proceed with caution. WIP in a circle is mostly safe, though anything can get removed at any time by TGC (and there's always the exception of something just going wrong randomly with no sign before).
TGC asks that we test items as soon as possible, if they don't get enough feedback due to broken buying options they'll find a way to release the item to beta testers. However, in general one can't expect that to happen (though "you can get it even if you were previously locked out" things have happened in the past and most likely will happen again, just not always).
Are you sure you looked everywhere? It has to be somewhere! Remember to try searching for things in Beta yourself, and if you're struggling with something and still need help, submit that to TGC in #beta-feedback to help them improve it after getting help here!
Check #beta-announcements and #beta-known-issues too!
It is necessary for testing that you purchase things as soon as they are released, rather than delaying until they are "safe" in order to accumulate a collection of cosmetics
. If something happens to not be entirely functional or not accessible to all players, that’s just beta being beta
— and well, use common sense and don’t purchase anything when you see everyone screaming something’s broken 
We need days of nature to introduce dolphins. Maybe a trash cleanup where you help them
the scariest thing I've heard
Thankies! 🙂
ah crab skybot bonk me/ the creature itself is a menace but yeah we need more aqua life
I still didn't buy the scepter before but it still didn't available for me.. why?
no clue, beta is always broken like that, bug report it 
Yoooo now I finally know why football was a thing on sky now 
I’d like to see some sharks for days of nature
oh that reminds me i was gonna suggest xerces society as a charity = butterflies, pollinators and invertebrates
The football prop release at the day of World Cup bruh 😭
You can choose to buy the fancy version with 14.99$ or the cheap version built up with sticks with 2 candles in dreams village 
I DONT WANT THAT I don’t even like football that much 
oh wow the soldier pants look so much better now. idk if it’s because i got used to the coloring but something about it makes me happy
Hey is gets feedback supposed to be visible??
I don't think so, it is visible to me too
It should not be public, bot seems to be acting up again
so about the last aurora (concert) quest auto-completing as a moth after the season ends, does that mean there's no indication in-game that the season even had a concert? a moth would have to learn that there was even a concert through hearsay, by coincidence through media or by looking stuff up like everything related to seasons in the game atm
This is such a great breakdown!
Ping off
just tried the aurora out on my moth, everything's true, literally went into the colosseum for the 2nd time in it's live and saw the cutscene completely out of context. newer even saw aurora before this. god this is gonna scratch some heads
They're probably gonna fix it, they can't leave it like that
The quest can self complete, fine. Just make the quest self complete after they do the other quests 😭
they do appear after you take the first quest tho, but only after you see cutscene. with the blue light being given to... no one. 
(and the emotes are collectable after that, obviously)
@glacial barn all of the quests are available, the last being autocompleted doesn't affect the progress besides the things i've mentioned above
(and maybe move the chatter over here?)
Which grey pants? The Wounded Warrior one? If so, Ig, yea
Yeah.. theyre yellow/beige now as if we didn’t already have enough yellow/beige pants in the game. The grey ones were so unique. Im very sad they changed them
they really aren't yellow tho, they only appear that way because of the current lighting being bugged 
see voi's pics of them without it
#beta-screenshots-videos message
They're like an ugly green color, I don't like it at all

Ah, i see. Thank you for showing me, i still prefer the grey way over this green color though.. the grey really gave a wasteland/warrior vibe
the old one looked blue to me and for me there’s already enough blue stuff in this game
No, there is not... we need more blue

for me, it is. but i still don’t mind it changing
True, Ig, but the color... I mean, if we want to keep it like faded, we could do a faded blue... I just feel like the current color doesn't go with much, and it's just ugly

then you’re free to leave those opinions in #beta-feedback
(when skybot wakes back up)
Already did, way aheada ya

it’s really earthy tones tbh, i like earth tones a lot
my only gripe rn is it blends the heck in if worn with the bereft cape
which does look really nice but if the cape were darker, it would make a really nice contrast
i personally adore the green colours that the veteran cape and the warrior pants bring to the game
they just… scratch an itch in the back of my brain it’s perfect
although if they ended up bringing the blue colours back i wouldn’t be mad i just prefer the green by a ton
the lighting bug is making color feedback and comparisons really tricky
I truly hope it doesn't make it to live
i think both the blue and green are fitting, i just like green more
as long as they arent vibrant and/or red i don't care which version makes it to live 
wait i cant figure out where to get the other days of love things, my beta acts like its still going on but i cant figure out where to get them, sorry if thia was a dumb question
Office rooftop
thanks, another thing: is tgere anywhere we can obtain the Journey cosmetics in beta? i know we were able to for switch things, i just dont know about the ps4 things
We don't have access to journey pack in beta. Anybody that has it is a hacker
ah oki, thanks

To be honest, sky ball is definitely better to play as a spell instead of an IAP because you only have to pay two candles for 1 game
I super wish we could know if we are gonna get any new elder masks bc I have a load of SC rn and I've been eyeing isle elder mask but I wanna save still.
It would suck if I bought isle and then they brought out some cool new masks and I not have enough for them
so I've just been like hesitant to spend them. Idr how long it's been since they released the first 3 elder masks and I ASSUME they'll do the other elders at some point bc why wouldn't they 😭
let's not act like they won't be worth at least a year worth of runs for the 2nd wave alone
give the people some time to comprehend what's already out
Thats why I semi wanna save 😭😭😭😭 if they bring out a mask that's like 500 I'll perish if I start at like 5 SC or something. I'm so torn bc who knows when that'll be since it's already been a while since they brought the first 3 masks
well how much do the first three cost compared to their elder hairs or whatever
125+75+250= 450 for elder masks.
Idr the hairs but the hairs each range from like 5-12 SC so the price difference from elder hair to mask is abysmally high
the isle mask is like less than 2 months worth of eden and shards, buy it and don't sweat it
the shield masks are probably supposed to be a grind considering they can Do That
if they are ridiculously expansive even compared to other masks, we will know it first and respond accordingly, won't we? 
I’m not sure if there’s a bug or I’m missing something. I went into the seasonal shared space to do 2nd quest, but I didn’t add the right thing. Now I can’t figure out how to get back in. Is there supposed to be a round portal type thing or am I supposed to get back in through that glowing floating diamond stone? Any help for me?
What do yoy guys think the chances of having a cape for an ultimate gift for this season are?
Not even an ultimate gift maybe just a cape only available from the guide tree
Darn
I just want a cool cape bruh in tired of my moth cape 😮💨
should i have my beta skykid be big or little?
i'm already tall on live
how much device space is required to update beta? my phone is running low on storage and the download keeps failing lmao
2-3GB
ohhhh ok ahahah -- I'm at 1.5 so this is a good motivator to clean up my photo albums haha
remember to have at least 4-6 gigabytes because the game is a hog and grows rapidly. The only worse app I know of is duolingo aka murder owl
@deft charm Now that they have duolingo math, duo will probably say "subtract this problem or I subtract your family"
they have math now 😭 😭 whaaaaaa ????
Just one mask as ultimate gift 😭
im sorry but rn this season has the ugliest ult ☠️ and the prop idk who will use it i barley use the lil prince star prop only for sleeping or sum
How can i be beta player :)
Please read #beta-faq
LMAO tiktok is taking up 4 whole gigs of space on my phone -- time to unsave some videos
Many players have been asking for day/night cycles in Sky, the prop fills that need since it turns the area dark when under it– I can see many using it
I definitely am 
I like the ults 
thanks! It was all Cy

very cute pfp and banner bubba 
at first i didn’t like the direction this season’s cosmetics and area were going but the entire thing has grown on me… the green warrior pants and veteran cape are so cool and i’m never gonna shut up about them… the scarf ult is quite simple but it can add a lot to an outfit and it’s a pretty fresh idea… and the projector. my god the projector. ITS SO COOL MBNGNGMGNGFNFMBJH
I don't think id ever use the scarf since I'm incredibly picky with my neck accessories, but I can 100% see myself using the prop bc mantas cool 
Agreed. The scarf is so boring and is not ult worthy. But I do love the manta prop it’s ult worthy
the scarf smells of elder and that's neat as heck, so I'm happy it's an ult, plus it's understated and looks really good with yeti cape
Smells of elder 
ive gotta test the scarf out with the bat mask, it's pretty grey so i think it might work 😳
It really does, I see it and think about how vault elder could have gifted it to remembrance guide to thank them for looking after the refugees 
For me, I really love the scarf. It reminds me of a “talas” which is the Hebrew word for “prayer shawl” Not that’s what this particular ult. is, but it has that similar concept. The colors are very simple and fresh. But, I do think if TGC adds some season of enchantment elements to the scarf it will become more promising. 
They could at least make it look better and not so boring. Like assymetrical maybe with different designs on each ends of the scarf, maybe add some tassels idk
Just something to convince me to wear it ig
That’s a nice idea. But I think the tassels could be “thinner”.
It does look like what some priests wear tho
It does, however, I do think the shawl could be a gift from the Vault elder to say thank you for saving the refugees and giving them a space to live and grieve for what they lost in a healthy way. 
i kinda wish that i were not a moth so i had some other capes to try the scarf with
It's been a while the Server is in a maintenance or idk☠️
that scarf can single handedly revitalize any old cape you have lying around collecting dust, i really don't see why people don't like it 
btw there's no way tgc just gonna drop this idea after a single item, so get ready for some extra pizazz for all of your capes
Scholar guides got it rough 😔
Oh yeah isn't this guide quite similar to the enchantment one 
More simple in outfit
Oh Wait-- has anyone done the hide and seek color correction glitch with the elder stole ult? Like does it look any different?
Same scholar base model, yea
Yeah it does! I didnt do it myself but i saw screenshots from voi, bubba and cy
I will look!! Ty!
Ono it's just pants and stuff I don't see the scarf thing 😭
I was gonna send a feedback about that annoying Shared Space change (it refreshes when you hide 'em) but skybot seems down so 😭
Have you tried doing !bug in skybot dm?
Oh my bad

I think that's a feature and not a bug, so I'm leaving a feedback for it 😭
It's ok!
Maybe I'm just not seeing it
like searching for right stuff. It is neat to see the other clothing items tho
Also @limpid crown I meant since skybot is down sending "!bug" to it's DM will allow you to bug report. But I see u meant feedback mb
Ye I know, but that's for the bugs, not feedback
I actually dont remember any screenshots they did with the ult for the no color bug glitch 😔 so maybe it doesnt exhist (yet!)
Whenever I go on beta i'm reminded that the scepter is never coming back for those who got the bugged version. 
If I was just patient... but it was the last day and I thought "screw it maybe it's fixed"... and then they redid DoF and I thought "oh maybe this time I can get it!" I was met by disappointment when I realised I ruined any odds of getting it... 
You'll be able to get it in live 
I know, but when I saw that they were redoing DoF and DoL I was so hopeful there'd be a second chance, it just disappointed me. But yeah at least i'll get it in live! 
Cries in Turtle Accessory and Assembly Mask 
Ikr, I was in the same situation for so long time with the aurora voice instrument. Fortunately I use beta only for feedback and bugs
Your avatar is very handsome
I'm having issues with the Remembrance quest 2, I put the item the spirit wants and it still says missing
I don’t understand all these waterfalls and random light towers. What am I doing? Is it a trick? 😂
I tried to climb them up bc I was just curious but after some height I just realized that I wasn't getting higher anymore 
Maybe I'll leave it to oob hunters to know what's up 
I won’t lie, not a single item from this upcoming season is looking appealing to me. They all look dreary and uninspiring. I’ve bought a AP every season for the past 2 years 😬 don’t think that will be continuing with this season
The season represents a socially poor class, which explains the dull cosmetics. When you say "uninspiring", what would you like to see instead?
Thanks to Boon saving my privacy at #beta-feedback
Cosmetics that are more unique and not copied from previous seasons (with a few minor tweaks). There are a lot of fan made cosmetics from people with amazing ideas. Inspiration could be taken from these.
When #beta-feedback reopens, please share this with the developers!
i thought its more like victims of war, not poor class since every spirit lost someone important
The point of this season is where the past “reconnects” with the present. By exploring moments in time where someone experiences a tragedy. For instance, where the Tea Brewer makes tea for a loved one who has fallen ill. That loved one ends up passing away despite the Tea Brewer’s efforts to heal that loved one. Or, where the Pleading Child’s parent gets arrested without explanation and they are left alone with no one despite their pleas to know the warrant for the arrest. I believe this season is meant to be tragic according to the examples I gave. This indicates the ongoing theme(s) of grief, loss, and or tragedy.
To add, I also believe the cosmetics could have just a bit more fine tuning. We can make or showcase our edits in their respective channels. And, we can also send feedback in #beta-feedback once it is fixed.
shattering was a dark season Aurora was a light season rememberance is a light season it's how the cycle cycles
I think i haven't seen someone activate the manta projector while underwater
O
can you place props underwater?
That... Makes me want to test it now, brb 
Hmm do the manta recharge light? If so, diving bell!
As expected. Darker underwater. Hmm might be a case by case basis like abyss. Ah maelstrom afaik it doesn't recharge us. Been meaning to write a feedback abt this but it's taking me a while to justify "why" they should do it 
They do in vault, and starlit valley.
But it may make the prop seriously OP, but still similar to Belonging bonfire
Oh wow that's interesting. I don't have the ult yet but I just activated the one I saw in a shared space in prairie.
I'm also having mixed feelings about the new look of the actual shrine
Maybe if you had to light the torch inside the memory diamond, or maybe you do idk not unlocked it myself yet
Hmmm 🤔 hmmmm this make me wanna grind for the ult 
why am i not receiving beta pings? like it shows as yellow but i never get the actual notification for it
(and i dont have server notifs disabled)
Discord does a dumb sometimes and doesn't ping everyone, or pings very late
i get that but... 2 DAYS?? and this isnt the first time either, it hasnt been notifying me like at all
like i dont even get the red notif alert on the channel
its been doing it basically ever since i got the update ping, i got like 1 that came thru (delayed but actually came thru) but never again
i reacted and unreacted a couple times to the msg so hopefully thatll fix it for the future
discord is really bad at sending out mass pings on time, i've noticed
i still think the tea pot holder warmer thing table is insanely huge. it looks so out of proportion with everything else in the game.
yeah, the base is juggler's brazier sized up so it looks weird
i think they could squish it so it's still wide but not as tall, maybe the size of the sakura table
yeah or even made the brazier its normal size and little stools around it to sit ?? eitherway it looks so weird
Do the wind chimes make any noise?
I’m debating if I should get them or the tea table, but the table is sooo huge and it’s weird you can’t sit at it. Can you even talk with people at it?
yes you can talk with 4 people standing around it (drinking tea icon show up over your head)
YALL THE WOUNDED WARRIOR PANTS ARENT BLUE ANYMORE 😭😭😭 IM SO SAD
when will days of bloom start?
!omgomgwhenbeta We don't know when bloom will be starting, just gotta wait 
skybot why u gotta refuse to reply
skybot has been asleep all day lol
How do you get up to the 4th seasonal quest shared space??
Skybot really enjoying it's day off 
But let them be, atleast they can rest 
i kinda just went up to spirit and then place the items + finding those pieces thats it
When I go up to the spirit it won’t let me place anything w/o entering the space but once I do I can’t fly for some reason
I feel like im missing something obvious but I have 0 idea how shared spaces work I don’t use them lol
Share your feedback. If you're struggling in beta then you could help live players by sending this feedback to devs.
Does seem odd to me tho, since last time i did the quest, i could fly to reach the shared space
sounds like a bug, you should be able to place it oh maybe thats a new thing? last i did i could fly no problem
I couldn’t fly during the first shared space quest either, but it had stairs so I just walked up there lol but I’ll tell feedback once the bot wakes up
Hey guys, I still can't find the sceptre item, where is it
I ate it 
cracks knuckles Heimlich maneuver time
we are getting that scepter one way or another 
stinky
Is anyone else having issues downloading the newest update for beta?
Been trying multiple times but just keeps failing.
Try clearing the cache for playstore? (That is if you're in android) I've been having some trouble with updating aswell but it works once i clear cache
I play iOS
Kinda late to the conversation, but do you have enough storage space on your device? Downloading usually needs more space than the required file size
^ had the same issue earlier and I cleared up a couple of gigs and it downloaded without issue
Ooh also, I found a ghost manta in the new vault area that takes you up towards the top of the area -- there's some orange sparkles in a kind of pillar form up there (the same ones that let you float in vault) and you can see the entire area from above 
Is only two ultimate reward for now or...?
fire pot looks different
Okay 👍🏼
Out of curiosity, could anyone tell me if the Christmas Tree on top of Office was there for Days of Feast? I was wondering if it would be here this year in live
it should be in the 2nd week for feast
My brother and I noticed we couldn't get the big snowman to appear with the snowman prop today? Did it not get through beta to live
ngl the big snowman was the main appeal for me so I'm curious if mega yeti made the cut since we haven't been able to get it to show up
probably a bug
Figured but I wanted to ask before making reports, also wanted to see if anyone can make the big one appear in beta before I did so as well.. though it's highly likely it's also bugged for us... knowing beta
the big yeti snowman was a bug
the footbal spell icon is also missing, man I love seeing familiar bug faces in live 
Ahh, I see. Smh should have been a feature. Eh at least i have my dumb snowman buddy now- who will now collect so much dust in my closet.
waaaait, I think I can't make it night home on switch either, oh my god 
oh please dear God no. My light sensitivity can't handle day time in home. (thankfully it's night atm so I can enjoy my starry home space)
i think it's a different shade of night
Ye, there's a lighter shade to the night them sky during the snow. It's very pretty
oh, so the polar night is intentional
lord have mercy
I don't think the polar "night" is intentional ( esp since I mean, I have nighttime home atm anyways)
But I hate that you can't get it to turn to night cause uh... ow my eyes
Does anyone know if the new pants and cape shown in beta will be coming during this event? (Not yeti cape)
No, they should come in the days of fortune event for the Chinese new year (so in a month or so) plus, there is no new event cape. All the other capes newly shown in beta are for the new season, which may drop around the same time as feast
Thanks so much. (: I wasn’t sure! Do you know about prices?
Won't know til live release and update info comes out
J4f, but i feel that the hologram 3D manti ulti gift was inspired from the honk spamming. They all cut all light from the environment
well, guess we're working overtime today bois
call it hakuna matata cause this feast is full of bugs 
Tbf what's any event or update in sky without hundreds of bugs, regardless of if it's in beta or live 
ey, come on, let's pretend we're actually doing our job 
What if the dress had cream or dark brown edging to match the cape ?
The current colours looks oddly grey/green in the different lights to me
You can't now, beta is full, no invites open. Read #beta-faq everything is there you need to know how to join in the future.
Thank you
When will eligibility be issued?
No one knows, it's upon devs demand
I see
Question: for the 'curs for me' items that used to be in aurora tree, are they gone now or are they a permanent thing?
Wasn't the snowman 100 candles in the test?
Yeah, but they decided to make 20 candles more expensive
hey beta chat ! just wanted to ask if it's possible to report someone who posted the alternate prophecy drum in a screenshot which shows that they have deer mask as well?
Yes, report to #contact-the-mods if its within this server
thanks dark ! 
12 candles till 100% rememberance 
i just saw voi's latest beta archive 
the ult looks so good. kinda sad with teabrewer's pants because the bugged color looks good imo and has grown on me quite a lot
the true color will be somewhere between the two after the light is corrected
hide &seek extinguished kids look quite flat when compared to regular light
Heya chat, haven't checked here in a bit, have I missed any doots?
Ah true it was the weekend, nvm me then
Random thought: if Pleading Child is a little boy, does that imply that without his mom, he was all on his own and couldn’t take care of himself? 
It would be the cutest freaking thing if for their quest, you followed clues that eventually led you to the mom. Then you bring her back to the seasonal area with you. They could have a whole little scene with laughing and crying and hugging. With the way spirits have been getting more active, maybe he could lead her like we lead a friend and point at stuff around the seasonal area looking really cute and excited. And whenever they pass, the other spirits do various “awwww!” emotes 
I do wish they flesh out the float islands a bit more, new area looks really empty ngl, not even any broken down houses or stuff like we see in the memories, just a plain island with notjing on top
AINT NO WAY THE SKYBALL SPELL ICON IS STILL A PINK QUESTION MARK

Oh wait skybot can still deliver feedbacks? I instantly deleted mine... I wonder if it managed to send the whole thing 
They really need to fix hair accessories location of Season of AURORA and Remembrance. whole hair is broken and my favorite feather clips in
why is it always yellow with sky these days tho. i have too much yellow in my closet. can we bring back blue from rhythm
Or they can pick a new color like purple to match vault theme .
Is there is there a bug in season quest 2? I can’t get back into the shared space to finish it.
I saw what’s in screenshots and what buttons do you press to turn your skykids light off? I play on switch by the way
i heard from someone, while you playing hide&seek with your friends, the light on your body will turn off 
i don't know if it true, i never play hide&seek before. ||has no friend
||
Where is the 3rd quest located? Cause it’s not appearing or prompting it’s location for me
It does.
So, so sorry for late ping, but I don’t understand the “extinguished” part.
What do they mean by that? Usually it means a grey skid that has lost its light, therefore I don’t understand how we could see their clothes in that state 😅.
Surely extinguished means something else in this context?
It means the light is dim, there's no light coming from the core in our chests
By the way the best place to see colours in their truest tones:
Treasure Cove.
It has a natural, non-glaring daylight that allows to see all the details
When playing hide and seek, our light becomes dimmer to hide better
Oh, I never noticed!
Thank you Dark!
Does this mean that the lighting bug comes from within us rather than the environment?
Yes, the yellow tint is from within us
Season of Yellow
Are we allowed to dm feedback to community managers
What would warrant a DM feedback? You can in #beta-feedback just the same
save your feedback until skybot’s back - lets refrain from DMing any TGC team members unless told to 
Oh didn't notice the bot is down lol, it does say to can it until its fixed though
I checked everything in Treasure Reef and it seems the direction they're going in is greens and browns that just look eh... 
Yetibot is working to deliver messages
wait so is the color of these cosmetics supposed to be more green if the light thing is a bug? or do we know?
Somewhere in between
I agree, so far the kaki muddy tint isn’t to my taste either. I would like a pale green for the boy’s tunic, but soldier looked better before. Short skid shy stance + former blue soldier pants + blue butterfly wings = utter cuteness
heey beta chat, yall know if the cosmetics on auroras tree will stay after the season ends or will they go away?
The pants + mask on the tree do go away after the season ends, yes
no collabs, your wallet is safe
tbh if I wasn't doing client work right now I would totally draw matcha coloured teamaker
the day's still young
Is anyone able to get the
AURORA Emotes yet?
any moth can claim the level 1 if they interact with the spirits, yes
whoops, skybot did the great purge again 
They no longer force you to restart? 
not sure what you mean there, is that about the "corrupted" glitch?
nah, it's fixed.
the only issue you might have on a fresh account is that the 5th quest will autocomplete upon entering coli
(I mean, you decide if it's an issue or not
)
Matcha cappuccino cosmetics anyone?
That, yea, it cracked me up, watching the
Seed of Hope ascend while sitting down and without a colored star.
as much as i like the red cosmetics
i feel like we have WAYY to many red ones already
looks at season of gratitude and dreams
yeah we have so much orange-red too esp with days of fortune lol
the cosmetics could be divided by 3 colours. Caretaker green, grandfather blue, boy orange and perhaps hurt warrior could remain grey/black.
I don't know the proper spirit names but that would make the colours seem equal to me.
I'm fine with that, I'm a warm colours lover
same orange is my favorite color, feel bad for people who hate it tho🥲
Was big yeti as a possibility for the snowkid prop just in beta?? It won’t show lol
It might've been a bug or a scrapped concept, it only showed up for a couple of builds of Feast testing
Did they really change the color of the rabbit mask and Days of Love bow to mint green or?
Don't think so, that was just an edit if you mean the pictures in the screenshots channel 
No that's just an edit 
Oh good. Good. I saw it in #beta-screenshots-videos and I freaked out.
Am i the only one who thinks the tiptoe spirit's dress would look better as a victorian maid/nurse dress?
Is there a model missing from the snow kid's lineup too? The actual snow kid one? I keep trying and only getting grandma, crab, and yeti. ^_^;
How much the chinese bunny suit costed? I don't remember
( I know is beta and prices may change)

We don't see any price for the iap's now
I'm not sure about the changes to the shared space shrines. I like the change but I like the old version too. Who else would like large shares spaces to use the new version while smaller areas keep the old one? Like the memory lanterns are stronger versions of memory candles
Haiii everyone im new here, anything I should know as of rn
Any tips or advice would be greatly appreciated 🙂 🙏
I started playing oct 19th. Lol im learning everything slowly but surely 😌
if they decide to do something like that, i hope they keep the functionality the same between the both of them, cuz i personally really like the mini private server idea and it would hurt my soul if they only did it for specific shared space areas
(wait did i make sure to turn off pings?
)
What do you mean by grandma
There's a snowman form that looks like feast Gramma, with a leaf stuck on top of its head
Oooh lmao, okay!
Isn't that a moth though 💀 the signature moth
antenna
Well, could be, I personally think it's an attempt of a moth at making a snow Gramma 
I thought that just a generic snowman
Moth or Grandma, there's only 3 models, none is missing
Same, 
just for the reference 
#seasons-events-chat message
So 4 with melty snowman
Ooh, I can see that being grandma's hair sticking up , yes
Kinda sad we didn’t get to keep the giant yeti snow man 😔
How big was this giant yeti snowman?
dei mentioned at reset that their sibling was able to recreate the giant snowman bug, but the circumstances aren't clear 
Almost as big as Yeti, I think, maybe a bit smaller
Inb4 super rare 0.001% chance
at least there's something left to uncover
even though feast is in it's earlier builds, some bugs got left out. no map shrines for me 
btw dark
joke's on you, this is exactly how remembrance and gratitude's wedding is gonna look like
Can't wait for the divorce arc 
Wasn't the divorce arc with Shattering
divorce........2!
shattering has them all, it's no issue
Ah yes correct, the remembrance one is actually wholesome
Trueeee the Grat and Remembrance guide are boogie-ing on the DoL pier
we can have one wholesome sitcom couple, as a treat
The scene where Shattering glaring at Performance still burn in my mind lol
... how did the devs end up allowing it so there's no spells for the new days of feast items, and the only feast spells being the wooden version of the soccer prop, HAVE NO ICON. 
don't forget the elephant in the room
eternal day made it.
Isn't there spells for the new items at the boat in home? Or am I thinking wrong
Beta is like a no man’s land. You get it, you don’t. You don’t get it, you do. It is like the best worst roll of the dice sometimes
wait wha
I swear the spells were there? an hour or two from reset 
At some point you'd earn a 6th sense when it comes to purchases in beta
there were spells for them in beta, but for some reason there aren't any in live, although perhaps maybe you are right in some way, perhaps maybe the spells were there for a few hours from reset, but some major bug caused them to end up with the little prince (if you know you know
)
I'm pretty sure I have them in my inventory, tell me what's missing and I'll send a sc into the main channel 
#screenshots-and-videos message
They were there for me (this is in live)
O WAIT THE SPELLS SHOWED UP AGAIN NVM
isn't sky great
No
no just no
aw
sky is a game
The new spells for the new stuff for days of feast are in fact in the boat at homespace
They were not however, present this morning
about shared spaces..
did anyone here ever lose their (meticulously) designed shared space at the naming step?
I wasn’t sure how to finish naming it and just closed the keyboard for a bit…
and with that my old shared space design was staring back at me …
Yesss! I saved something I was working on so I could go to geyser and come back to work on it more, and it just erased it to the original random pots version
Oh yeah shared spaces are really buggy when you go name them, yours just reset, mine would make the game crash
The spells in live were causing games to crash. Maybe that’s why they’ve been removed. They seemed fine in beta tho. I used them just because. Lol
I think so 🫤
(Ping off) I mean the one with the leaf on its head that I thought was supposed to be grandma's little ponytail. It has a little cape too. ^_^;
Yeah I can see why it would look like her but to me it looks like a moth. Either way whatever it is, no model is missing
Aw well, not sure why I thought I remembered there being one more. I also noticed it being the granny/moth more often than the other options so I thought maybe that one was also showing up when it was supposed to be a missing one. ^_^;
The new shared place looks like High Tech 
I don't know why , but i am unable to lit friend star of my friends. And i can't even collect the hearts that they send.
Usually this happens if you're new to Beta, this means you should complete all realms (not including Eden if you don't want to go in yet)
Or probably a bug
so am i,
Oh i see
Thank you
i've already complete all realms, But sometimes I still can't receive the hurts my friends sent to me face to face. Maybe it's a bug. You can try to give a name to your NEW friend and then collect the heart their sent. Sometimes it works.
I have not completed all realms yet. Maybe that's why i am facing these problems. I have already saved my friends names.
Hi guys, i'm a new player on Beta. I have a question that after the season ended, the season candles will turn to white candles or not? Like live version?
Candle conversion works same as live, so yes, you'll get white candles after season ends if you have any sc left over
Oh thanks you ♥️
Can i get the tgc cape in office for free?
yes
Anyone from india wanna be friend with me???
Why the season area awfully familiar to Genshin Ekonomiya soundtrack
I think this season is pretty sad
It looks like like criticizing the war between Ukraine and Russia.
i don't see any similarities besides the sentimental and sorrowful themes usually common in these type of music, plus sky's music is usually "softer" in a sense
plus genshin's Enkanomiya has a ton of tracks compared to the single bgm of the repository, hardly comparable
AM I WRONG
try sending it at #beta-looking-for-group
I mean I kinda feel that's a reach. War in general? Sure it could be. But specifically between Russia and the Ukraine? I don't think so 
As per Sky dev statement TGC has plans about upcoming seasons and events more than a year ahead. As per my best knowledge they are not clairvoyants 
Remembrance is all about war and death in general, but it also has subjects possibly about poverty and suffering.
I don't know if it's the rendering problem, but I think the bright light on the bright children is too strong, which seriously affects the color of the cloak. All the items feel yellow …Does anyone feel the same way?
..why did you post this in all of the beta chats, they are all the same crowd 
but yes, this lighting issue is a thing. has been ever since the scepter came out
Okay fine
Because there are already two versions, I think this may become a reality.
is skybot down again??? i cant start a bug report for some reason
No problem, hopefully it's fixed now
It's 50:50
If remembrance starts as early as 2 weeks after AURORA they would have to push the update to Nintendo about now.
But if remembrance doesn't start until the end of January we have a few weeks left of testing.
Feedback can't hurt for when TGC get back off holidays
@shy ore if you were wearing the pendant cape, had a dismiss cape stranger join you at the beginning and skipped the final tunnel - hi! 
U mean AURORA wings aka? :D
Booyah!
There are other wars happening in the world...... Plus, after the season of Aurora and the stories it told, it made sense that we'd be sticking to that theme and seeing the war/aftermath that happened.
i didn't know well...
Okay
so turns out you can't hang the windchimes on the floating shard plants 😔
Can i ?👀
can anyone explain how to project a shared space to be public? like for everyone in the server. or is that not possible anymore??
you can't, they are kinda like mini-servers within a server
however, it's important to note that if you're viewing one, everyone will see a join button on top of your head and can, supposedly, visit you anytime 
oh. that's kinda neat
I have a distinct memory that was a feature at some point
sharing yours with others I mean, I don't know about the joining
the one jaws said??
I guess this explains why I would see some invisible hacker making those candles, but suddenly I saw someone else that isn't invisible who lit me and was approving of my space 
Kinda cute to be able to join someone there and see what they are seeing
I saw the join button once (it's
, ofc) but never pressed it to find out. cause, yk, awkward
I hope they increase the amount of props we can place, like windchimes- I want to make one with a ton of windchimes
I'm still bitter about the 1 manta lantern per space change, but after witnessing what 8 of those did underwater I understand the devs completely 
Oh, what did they do underwater that made it so we can just do one? 
...I'll either send a link or some unseen scs, hold on 
Ah ha, okay I see, yes in this scenario it is understandable
Maybe if they could put a limit of 2 for abyss shared space? And back to 9 for prairie ? 
And no limit on the windchimes
i love windchimes if you can't tell
But tgc - don't be getting ideas on that... windchimes at 30 candles is plenty enough for the igc price
guys a question, i remember dev said that there is a skip button for the carry spirit that is in the daylis quests, so i was try in beta but i can't find it ( it shuld be in live too i think)
That meant you can use the Aurora skip emote when reliving a carry spirit
alright guess i got it in the wrong way, i was thinking there was a skip button for the task 
Build 19.5 205086:
Tired of merely walking during a carryball spirit relive? You say you'd rather use the skip emote while you hold that Spirit high? Thanks to this fix, now you can!
Note the the patch notes were edited to fix the wording for that exact reason
I want this to be a thing, but the catch is that you have to watch the spirit do abyss lvl 4 hurt emote until their timer runs out
arthritis is no joke
Does anyone know when are the red umbrella and pants coming to live?? Or whats the event called???
they will be coming in the next days of fortune, but we don't have the exact date yet. you'll have to watch the #news for that 
The way I hate how “lit icon” flickers every time there’s a small/big cluster of candles and you cant lit them and keep standing there, honking like if youre dumb
And then my friends are like “you good?” 😭😭😭


can I also see 
check the sc channel cy 
Is it safe the assume that the ults are finalized as of now? Really wanna try the ults out
jesus christ of all flashbang light hell on earth
the worst part was the pitch black darkness that would swallow you whole when you resurface
ah so recreation of being swallowed by big fishus
exactly but more of a psychological horror
I don't mean a specific sound track, just the themes are very familiar
Floppy bunneh ears where are youuuu, and I'm so sorry 
no floppy ears. only chiseled cheekbones
💅
I'll stop demanding deer mask if they just give me floppy bunny ears 😩
well...
we still got the next year's dragon, right?
say, have any of you watched the neverending story? 
are the projection beams supposed to still be there after reliving spirit memories is over
The flashbang in screenshots reminds me of when all of the people in my concert row shot off fireworks at the same time and I couldn’t see at all 😭
I miss my beta stress test row.
So! @crimson junco I wanted to ask what exatly AURORA IAP cape allows you to do? Like it lets you replay the concert or anything?
In beta, it currently does pretty much nothing. However, some #news post (probably the update patch notes) said it'd send you to the concert area. Best to check in live channels though as it's information that's already in live.
hahah aww thats not beta concert but yes it lets you relive the concert as a special feature!
Ohhh!!! I just wanted to ask in here since the season already finished in beta so yeah! Thank you!!!
You're welcome! So far, it's not even said yet that beta will ever get a working cape, unless I missed something.
Can someone tell me is it okay - I logged in and my season candles like +10k??? It’s bug or devs present? I p.s. don’t use mods, I have ios devise
i think you should probably make a bug report because i have a funny feeling that’s not meant to happen 
Is it possible that somebody hacked my account? I’ll report that, don’t wanna loose my account since 2019
....for testing purposes, what did you do before that? 
i doubt it unless you’ve given someone your login details!
jaws are we sure that’s for testing purposes 
Nothing! Just logged in beta like usually and saw huuuge amount of candles
Worrying. Last time it was triggered by some sort of action like forge a candle or shop etc
rng, our favorite
suddenly every beta tester starts logging on and off repeatedly in hopes of becoming rich 
Hahahaha
so you saw me 
casually reading the bug reports, did yall know that there's a conversion bug at the office?
trying to replicate it rn
upd: ugh, it won't budge
Give it a day or two
can certainly say that it messes up with your connection a bit (dailies have a red dot, all of the friends are unlit, yellow bar upon logging in), but couldn't get past that
collected wax, changed the cape, used the map shrine... yk the deal, nothing
but yall be careful out there 🫵 
or absolutely reckless if you so choose
jaws are you trying to break beta again?
Also unrelated but I went to check bug reports and saw skybot's earlier message about going offline and I can't stop imagining a robot clocking out of an office job for the day
when isn't jaws trying to break stuff?
bubba are you actually surprised
and here I thought you knew me
I tried a couple times to trigger the office conversion since I have all the spirits done and whatnot anyway but no luck so far. ^_^;
Hii
How can i do 3rd seasonal quest?
office conversion just involves logging off while in office right??
for scientific purposes, tgc please give me conversion money

Only the firs part, second part is still locked
Does anyone know like why I don’t get pinned when they post smt in the update channel?
scroll up in #beta-faq and react to to the message that gives you the beta pings role.
ohhhhh ok I see it ty!!!!
Awful lot of conversion bugs cropping up lately, I wonder why. ^_^;
The game is held up with duct tape
The worst rn is zigzag bug 
Skykids who lead seem to pull me through walls and to oob, getting yeeted in air then to ground whereas my connection at worst has 15ms ping and decent 100mbps+ download speed
And strangers seem to float as well to oob then yeet back
whats an office conversion
There has been several random SC conversion bugs, one caught it recently in Office is all. The problem here is the bug doesn't make sense and is inconsistent
We’ve tried the Map Shrines, the candles, the cannon, the closet, the green/blue screen, all of it?
Yes
wanting to try this conversion glitch but also knowing that TGC will reset the currency if too many people exploit it
I bet someone forgot to flush
does anyone have the list of what spirits are next up in line for TS in beta?
#beta-discussion message not updated but heres a couple
yep next ts in beta is frogs king 
Next beta TS is
and then the frogs king.
Here's a more updated list, only one missing is pleaful parent since it just got announced today #beta-discussion message
other than the new cakes in vault idle wax and valley hot spring. anywhere else ?
Wdym- what are u talking about-
It's a minor thing, they won't really care
Whats that about- I don't get what's the thing they won't care-
Converting seasonal candles to white candles with a glitch
And that since when-
Why do I miss so many bugs in beta 😭
Not sure what the bug is either but it used to happen to windpaths at some point
there's no case to be made until we are to successfully replicate it
it happened once from what we know, and may not happen again
Wait office converts ur sc now?? I wasn't home soni couldn't get on beta for a few days
maybe a photon flipped a bit and screwed that person over 
could be!
the worst part is that the bug happened during the days of love, judging by the pink grass on the sc
it all could all be event specific, and we may never find out until the bug makes it to live 
What if you play hide n seek at the graveyard, but have mantas projectors in krill populated places? Krill don't really show up when the projector is on, so it would add a terrifying edge to the game.
damn days of love ended just when i decided to get hearts for the flower crown
@late sonnet at least I rest easy knowing u like my green tea Brewer edit
ur drawing is so cute and cozy looking 
has anyone tried the spirit manta projector in the valley oob? i wanna try it, but it's so hard to get out there myself with 7 wings TvT
hi, not beta but heard some beta stuff
Hope you're talking about this oob (i also have 7 wings, im too lazy to wlr in beta). Basically it's very dark:/
#beta-screenshots-videos message
ty for sharing! bit of a bummer it's so dark though 
Yeah i wish we could see the mantas AND the sunset
If you step little bit away you can see both
True i guess, tho i think it looks odd since the prop makes a bright circle on the ground and the star dust is very spherical (if you go too far away). I tried another spot but the tower gets in the way
Overall i prefer the star dust residue when you take away the prop 
Yes
Maybe too bright the circle.. It disturbs the view. Should little bit brighter in the surrounding
should i buy the ultimate gifts? i already have 4 hearts
tbh any advice you may get here will be as accurate as that from a magic 8 ball
it says “Signs point to yes”
you've heard it
I've come to make an announcement.
map shrine bug is in live.
don't attempt to contact me as I will be going mental.
wait the office conversion one or??
the og.
I don't think it was ever fixed
I always thought the wind path bug mentioned in known issues could be triggered with wind path map shrine as well
see yall later 
Map shrine bug?
I think it's the "sit at a map shrine a few times, then go to wind paths, and then go home" one that triggers old content to happen. Not entirely sure though. A while ago, it used to fill home with little candles where you had one for each friend, and three more homeshrine statues that could hold invitations. At another time it let you rewatch seasonal cutscenes from previous seasons.
(Careful if you haven't finished the season yet!! Might trigger the candle conversion!)
pretty much it
don't touch it unless you know what you're doing
and no need to ping me when I said my goodbyes 
I don't know what I'm doing half of the time, so I'll be sure to stay away from it ☺️
Hope this doesn't come across as rude, but figured I'd mention that to answer people without pinging them, there's a little blue "@ on" at the side of the message, click it to switch pings off. Some people don't like getting pinged, so it's useful to know. (Also handy if you want to point someone to a message that was sent earlier.)
That’s a funny way to put it 
Beta server Down?
No, not for me anyway
yall wanna some psychological horror
do 7 home map shrine sit ups
swoop down the wind path and home
and watch till the end
oh... I saw the belonging ending
but app froze and I couldn't do anything after that
yeah that's the horror
they invite you in, but you can't join them.
you're stuck in place, your seat just out of reach.
you're welcomed, but never truly home.
literally scouring for it rn yall are so broke for the frog king's arrival
Well we still got this week's ts before frog king so ppl have a lil bit of time to save still 
Wait who is frog king?
Hello beta, I just wanna ask if there are green cape in new season that can match with aurora pant(cost 200🕯️)?
the green of the cure for me pants is much brighter than the greens of the remembrance capes and other cosmetics 
a spirit from the little prince season
Oh I see
Omg, I never could watch the end cutscene originally 🙏 bless
candle conversion is 19 sit ups.
go at it.
Oh that guy ok 🙂
Yeah, Beckoning Ruler
Oh fr? On god? Just like that?
go test it out 
Bet
That didn't work, I did something wrong, what are the exact instructions

Wind paths
how many TS is beta behind live?
several..... I don't know the exact number I'm not very helpful
did you restart the game
I think it's ~7 TS behind ¿
Yes I went to count it's 7
shushing, beckoning, laidback, nodding, water prophet, yeti, sassy
I must've miscounted, it worked now
(either of us could've miscounted but it's okay the general span is there)
It's exactly 19 sit ups
you know what I don't care about the number of ts basically we're getting shushing next then we'll have the rest that I listed up there lol rip
NOOO IT ISN'T REPEATABLE 
but hey extra cash is extra cash
Man I should have waited till after I did today's scr before doing it </3 but thank you for finding this jaws, I can actually afford the items in the guide's spirit tree now

I'll share some other interesting numbers later but the world must know that 30 sit ups is the family guy death pose
This feels like a GTA cheat code sheet
I wonder if this will completely mess up the actual season's end conversion
we'll see it on my live aurora moths
completely forgot
the actual death is 21 sit ups
you're in the pity room but there's no one there
you can recharge yourself with spells, sure, but the only thing there is a cool background
before you ask how many exercises this all took - look, you can tell it's finals right
Jokes on you, I can do 100 of those!
384
jaws is your skykid ok
i think they might need a break
galileo wasn't ready for yet another career change and suffered the consequences 
Do you guys think the orange in the hair style and shawl will stay? 🤔 i’m thinking of buying the orange aurora dress to match with it 
oh my god,,, the belonging cutscene… I CANT GO TO THEM NOOOOOOOOOOO
OH MY GOD I TRIGGERED CONVERSION
with 19 or
no i did closer to 30
it showed the aurora symbol on the conversion notice too
i’ll post a screenshot when my cooldown is over 
.....god. 😭
first i see the home boat spirit zoom across my screen as i come back from windpaths then i get aurora conversion when i restart the game
skycotl is a bug free experience
now… seeing as i have nothing to lose… time to do it again 
Homie nyoomed across ur screen
i managed to bring aurora back into home
it’s letting me back into the concert i think it was about 45 sits but i kinda lost count
What in tarnation have y'all gotten into
sky is a game
we’re perfecting the art of sitting 
WHAT were you able to go to the concert???
there’s no actual concert on but it’s night coliseum!! sorry i should have phrased that differently LMAOO
I'm stuck at work right now but it looks like you folks are having fun. 
Niceeeee how many map shrines did you do
Also there’s a candle conversion??
i think i did around 45 sits but i lost track a bit
I need to look up how to do this
You just sit ..... a lot
then sit at map shrines to your heart’s content!! 
feeding the wind paths seasonal hearts as thanks for the quick transportation 
This is how the wind paths got corrupted, beta chat started the 4th quest
Hi beta gang I took a substantial break from beta due to exams and I’m behind on the tea, do you feel that there are certain things to check first and give feedback on?
there's a new ult for remembrance (a spirit manta projector), so that's a big thing to check out! put it wherever you can to test lighting changes especially. the colors of some remembrance cosmetics have been changed, so check those out and send some feedback on them - beta is p divided on them at the moment. there are some big conversion bugs (in the wind paths especially, but i've seen some things about an office bug as well). otherwise, just hunt for bugs as usual! great job on getting through exams!
Thanks so much
I will check out both ults and how they look in different realms
I’m wondering what the chance is of a cosmic manta cape this season as well given the location and new transparency effects
Is it confirmed that there will only be 2 ults this season? Still that 2nd ult by itself is worth a pass everything else is a bonus haha.
Beta finally caught up, no longer are we stuck in Shattering! Now we’re stuck in Aurora 
Upgrades, people, upgrades
In beta nothing is confirmed until live release. And from that point, that's no longer beta 
to this day i wonder why the wind paths, and the wind paths specifically, cause the candle conversion stuff
It just works
is there only 2 ults this season…??
As of now, they could still add more
Here's to hoping they will add more
Spirit manta cape summoning circle 🕯️ 
(I know we got scarf and manta projector, but c'mon transparent manta cape would be cool) 
Especially that we got the glittery wings from aurora season so a spirit manta cape will be so cool as well!
Just without blinding bloom effect please
You know, given how bugged the wind paths were during initial testing, it isn't really that surprising that they're so bugged now ^^;
help i burned a hole in the floor trying to summon a spirit manta cape ult 
i'm sure all efforts have been going towards making sure the aurora concert runs smoothly in live, but i have to say i'm surprised that the wind paths and spam honk bugs made it into live. then again, it is a busy time of year even when you're not trying to make the biggest virtual concert venue in history 
The devs only wanted us to burn the servers during the concert, not with the new season 
too late, i've got a overeager moth with candles ready to burn something
is the X icon still a thing for the manta projector? 
We didn't get #beta-announcements for a while, so don't expect change (yet)
Probably won't have an update for at least 2-3 weeks, it's about to be the holidays
Which ts is coming tomorrow in beta?
iirc it’s shush emote but i’m not 100% sure
I wanna have the belonging conclusion map shrine bug, I just know how many times do I sit/where to go before going to wind paths to trigger it 
It's 7
💀
I only sat 6 times and called it a day
numbers that didn't work for me:
8, 9, 10, 13, 22, 23, 25, 47, 63
master hand ones:
39, 60
oh, and the conversions at the 19 and 24 don't affect each other, so you can activate one now and keep some other numbers as a contingency plan 
15 is interesting btw
it's one whole second of fireworks
....and yall are summoning shatter again
Shattering just needs hugs
What does that mean 
exactly what you think it means, go get those early ts funds
Shattering didn't get the attention it could have gotten during development (I believe), it's not it's fault it wasn't as enjoyable as other seasons ^^;
I'm not judging them based on their season, but on their concise choice of being annoying earlier
did the person who caused the candle conversion in the bug report also do the map shrine sit ups? if not, there are other triggers. 
That is fair
Also, might know another conversion bug...... A friend of mine triggered it in live accidentally, going to attempt to recreate in beta
agree, sky can't possibly be that structurally sound for there to be only one way to wreck your ap
it's weird how they never made at least one more reminder after ps release that yeah, wind paths are still totally screwed
original patch notes had it listed as fixed, but were redacted some time later. not really quick enough for the general public and fandom's translators not to go "oh, so it's fixed" and move on
jaws still doing sit ups I see 
how's your abs
They’re prolly so buffed by now they can plank the whole beta server
Time to change
to :pBuffJaws:
this sounds concerning out of context
/draws a buff shark but it just has a mega beefy jaw/
Goblin shark when it finds food
yall forgetting that the only part that's getting the workout is the legs 
but you still use your core muscles to get up and down 
I have the Spirits’ Japanese names, now to spend an unnecessarily long time romanizing and translating them. 
Nothing can beat the Sassy Drifter’s names in other languages though.
I mean would you like didn't skip leg day shark or megajaw shark 
Imagine shark with legs tho-
One Piece Arlong still looks cool tho
What are these light/waterfall/towers about?
reverse mermaid /nods sagely/
I fear no man
but cy never fails at scaring the soul out of me with just few words
do whatever you feel is right 😭
I need to do some things but
I may draw a dramatic comic.....and it will be funny 
like same level of reveal as drag bunny perhaps
we shall see
concerningly hyped
Don mind me imma just being cozy in this corner with grandma waiting patiently
lemme guess you're standing
Nah t-posing is my natural form
The
Pleading Child’s Japanese name is
Kongansuru Asanago, which is a direct translation.
Interestingly, the last kanji in their name also refers to the Year of the Rat. 
Was checking Feast event and
- the skyball spell icon is still a magenta "?"
- the hitbox of the light fragments in the new race is still bad

Gotta love the stuff that makes it through live
i am interested in looking for another trigger for candle conversion, any hints?
i noticed i have a spell in live named "LOCALIZE ME". ah, the things that make it into live 
Also I just remembered that in beta feast the IAP button in Gramma's hut was bugged and we could access it from the outside if we got really close to the wall 
(Or got Bubba to chibi fall us in there)
I hope the devs are able to sort out some of the bigger problems after a nice rest for the holidays. ^_^;
i hope so too! aurora was such a big season, so i hope they have plenty of time to rest
The wind path big still exists in beta?
Well, I recreated what they said they did..... but didn't trigger, so might be part of the "fix" that was introduced. (apologies for text wall ^^; )
Step 1: Kneel at wind paths shrine once (it was their first time with that shrine, so that might have played a factor. I had not unlocked this shrine prior to this test, so same progression)
Step 2: Hop in the wind path for a few rounds of wax collection and high speed music playing
Step 3: Go home via emote menu (they hadn't known at the time that you could also go home via the settings menu)
And this is where I was unable to continue replicating their steps. At this point, this is just their recollection
Step 4: A text will appear at the bottom of the screen in home about unlocking a spirits rewards, and player/camera movement will be impossible (unless you have a prop you can place to push yourself around). Call a friend you have unlocked warp with to join your server, and deep call to get the prompt to warp to them.
Step 5: Have them lead you into another realm and go on a candle run adventure.
Step 6: Go home via emote menu. If done correctly, you'll get the candle/heart conversion message, followed promptly by said candles/hearts converting.
Again, I wasn't able to fully replicate (though that won't stop me from attempting multiple times). But so far looking like this is fixed in beta. That or there are some missing steps they didn't tell me about ^^;
Days of love is so good so far!
I honestly love everything,
(And the new season)
Thanks for detailing that! 
The stuck at home phenomenon certainly seems to be due to a bug fix. I will try various things as well.
unless they've interacted with a shrine on a completely fresh restart, sounds like the normal wind path bug outcome.
any visit to the forest in a single session makes you susceptible to the bug. skykid freezing in place once you enter the home space is a tell-tale sign the bug worked too, and the later steps most likely did nothing to affect the outcome 
They said they had another friend get stuck in home as well, but they didn't get the reset. Apparantly they got frustrated and restarted their game instead of warping to a friend to get dragged to another realm... So not entirely sure about that
I recall, there was also a bug in a previous build where the in-game recording did not work if you went to the Wind Paths in the first session.
That’s in live now. WP = candle conversion
How did the people in #beta-screenshots-videos manage to get Grandma? Does anyone have a clearer photo of that? Because I’ve been looking for group shots like that for Gratitude, Rhythm, Belonging, and Lightseekers
(Final quest, spirit ascent thing)
not all freezes lead to conversion, you can enter any location and do the wind paths maneuver to activate it, it's just the forest (brook) has some special properties, ig
Sit 7 x
the classic map shrine bug, home space, sit at it 7 times, do the thing, and voila
Cool
Does it work with other seasonal cutscenes? Like, have any of y’all managed it for the other seasons I mentioned? Or was it just grandma’s (she’s belonging, right?)
(consider backreading)
only the lightseekers ball at 17
I remembered about that yesterday and chibi fell in live to get the ancestor cape early
I'm impatient ok 
I do, I’m just dense 😅
there's a lot of uncharted territory over the 30 mark still 
science!
you kids have it so easy, the og conversion bug over at live was 65 and 43 
do i have to fly 1 round in the wind path or there is a specific point for the bug to happen?
you can go home immediately upon the wind picking you up
wait does the bug still exist in live? bc i tried twice already
don't know the numbers and don't wanna share them cause the live folks have everything to lose
i only know the light await friend list, but it need to sit in isle map shrine and bring a piano
but that was the old one, not sure if it only need wind path nowadays
oh god nonon i did smth wrong
Wait we can relive the belonging scene?? It’s been like three years since I’ve seen the gang together- how have y’all had enough time to do this 
oh god idk what i did i do ahhhhh, i got beginning cutscene
24 in live
crowe, I strongly advise against sharing the map shrine bug instructions in live.
it's a seemingly innocent bug that can lead to an irreversible damage to the account if one's not careful
Does anyone have a link to the instructions on how to do belonging cutscene glitch?
tbh i did this along with the fail 19 sit so that might be the problem, oh im okay with it, but thanks for the warning
oh god it trigger beginner instruction, thanks god my i acc haven't got wiped
i'm kinda scared to do anything now lol
crowe, please stop putting your live account in jeopardy unless you are absolutely sure what you're doing and aware of possible outcomes.
the numbers are different between builds, so a safe number in beta can wreck your live skykid.
it's best to edit the numbers out of your live post and not to encourage the use of the bug publicly.
if you encounter a conversion glitch - don't send it to the public bug reports, but use #contact-the-mods or dm zahlya about it so no information hazard is shared 
Don't want some kiddo dropping by and getting tempted to try it only to royally donk up their account and get very upset. ^_^;;
what happens at 39 and 60?
they trigger the hands tutorial
Which map shrine are y’all sitting at to get the bugs?
I sat at home shrine to trigger conversion + belonging cutscene. Only two bugs I've tried so far 
Conversion? 
I hope this home shrine bug is patched cause this is game breaking
19 sits at home shrine caused candle conversion for me. Kinda thankful because I got +270, saving me from my brokeness of constantly being under 10 candles xd
(jaws was the one who found the bug initially, and it can't be repeated. There is a second conversion bug tho, I forget the sit count)
Oh that’s handy yeah
Do y’all still go to the wind paths and home after the sits?
I wonder what other bugs may be happening throughout the realms after sits that were not seeing 
If you triggered the conversion bug, then went to collect seasonals, would that still work, or do they vanish? I'm curious cuz I didn't try the bug, nor do I plan to even in beta, but I wondered what happens since the season is still active 
Still works yes. I triggered conversion and did an scr + quests after because my brain stopped working and I did them in the wrong order
collected SC as normal, didn't get messed up at all by the conversion being triggered prior
Interesting
very interesting
does candle conversion bug work in live??
It might but it's better to not risk it since the season ends in literally less than 2 weeks
beta needs doot ><
Moving on 
Nice, that was kinda cool Harbin. XD
Oh cool, never saw that clean at work before 👀
Mod superpowers, squeaky clean chat. XD
has anyone found anything cool with the map shrine glitch 
I haven't discovered anything cool myself but the belonging cutscene one is pretty cool
What mean by hands tutorial?
Beginner moth? Right when you first make a new account
pretty sure they mean the tutorial at the beginning of the game which shows hands on screen that teach you basic movement 
Ohh WAIT SO IT RESTARTS YOUR ACC??
nah it just displays that tutorial on screen with your current skykid tmk 
oh i accidentally triggered it in live! scared the life outta me to see the opening cutscene and tutorial again lol
This candle bug saved my live acc. Because I havnt enough candles for ts. Now in live I got this bug and have enough. 😜
👀
@quiet obsidian but how can i do it tho ?
#beta-discussion message
here’s a simple explanation i made earlier, i think that to do the belonging glitch you have to sit at the home map shrine seven times but i’ll have to check
this glitch can also trigger numerous other things to happen, like post-season candle conversion, sending you to the pity room etc depending on how many times you sit at the shrine 
Yeap 7 times for belonging cutscene
tried it twice in live (purely to see if it was still working, no other reason that will be arriving in roughly ten minutes) and thankfully it isn't working there! or maybe i missed a step 
it does, crowe activated belonging cutscene on 24 and I got the tutorial sequence on 15 
I'll tune in when you unearth rhythm final cutscene
oh no no i got the hand tutorial and the home (?) cutscene, it wasn't 24 either
Is the first season quest bugged or am I doing something wrong? I placed the windchime and the spirit looked happy but when I pressed save it still failed and said I was missing something
one day... 
oh i got the old introduction, the murals on home rock, you can still find it if you table bug through home windwall
old introduction? 
yeah, i remember that moth now only have the storm sequence when they first start, but that was long ago so im not so sure about new new moth
is there a video of this introduction anywhere? i’d like to see it 
..the one you're seeing is the new one, actually
honestly it's been a year so i can't remember much lol, ah wait, nitro...
ah dang discord doesn't load it, lemme send it again
When did the hand tutorial actually got implemented tho, coz i don’t know if i saw it during my beta sanctuary moff days
if you send it from the photo gallery instead of discord’s photo menu (press view all) it should go through 
i first play in TLP but it was my sister account, i only know the open sequence bc i made an alt during abyss. So yeah, my memory is not the most organize one since i always remember the wrong thing
yeah, i think i was around when the old intro was a thing but i joined during sanctuary then dropped the game until Dreams, didn’t make a new account tho so i don’t remember the old intro at all
i can try to make a new one just to find out, hope i didn't got anything wrong this time lol
Quick random question -- how does using the aurora wings work? Was trying to access the concert from beta to see how it would work but pressing the icon does nothing, is it because it's not active yet or something else?
the wings aren’t able to be used yet in beta!! You can use them in live though - the function only works when you’re in regular coliseum, and then you can click it in your emote menu to take you to night coliseum
Cape function isn't enabled in beta right now
Aha I see! Thank you 
okay so i made a new account, and yeah it didn't have the opening
okay yeah sorry for earlier post, I recalled not seeing it on my moths either 
I've just seen it too much by now
man, I love beta
you can do everything that comes to mind and not worry about long-term consequences
I want to ask the devs.... Next year yeti coming back at winter?.. His cape too? Or just once time item?
All traveling spirits are random, except some rare cases. Yeti will be back in beta in a few weeks since we’re behind live in ts schedule. Other than that, beta testers don’t know about future dates of events or ts.
The days of Feast will be back next year with all of the cosmetics. Not sure if Yeti at home will be back in that same spot, but he might be in the office next year.
I think they meant yeti from days of feast, and the iAP yeti cape
The IAP will return next year as most event IAPs do (unless it's a collab/charity)
But there's no telling what the next Feast theme will be
Errm, can we buy Journey pack in beta version?
Ohh
So who have Journey pack are hacker or sth?
every spirit has green on their cosmetics, they should call this season of green 
well at least for this season we have more stuff that matches with weirdly green cosmetics like the little prince pants. so honestly this season was kinda needed if they wanted to keep making weird green items in the future 
hi guys how do i get beta?
I wish they didnt make the warrior pants green
they’re so ugly to me now
Beta is currently closed, please read #beta-faq
I'm sorry for your loss
i really liked the old color palette, i hope they change it back :(
Is it possible to have the ult gif manta projector on and play an instrument at the same time?
No, unless they were using an instrument spell and said spell timed out while they were playing
Yeah.. we already have enough green
i know we were saying we dont have enough green cosmetics in the game
but that was before season of aurora
i really liked grandpas black cape in the new season, bring it back
They meant green in this specific season, or rather, green in the pants, because they were better blue
i remember them being blue, they looked better + we already had one green aurora pants but they still changed it💀💀💀
Feedback time weeee 
Also especially with the lighting bug, it looks more yellow than green
bring back dark colors to warrior’s pants and grandpa’s cape in the new season, im so done of green cosmetics 🥹🥹🥹 only little prince spirits have black capes
fr, i thought pleaful parent had black cape but its more dark blue and sometimes even GREEN
Blackish green and also greenish gray
We had two green cosmetics, oh gosh we don't need any more! (Heavy sarcasm) I'm going to leave some strong feedback to leave the green cosmetics in
So we have skipping from SoAURORA and tiptoeing from SoRemembrance. I've been thinking of another potential walk emote and I want limping as an emote. Limping is already a thing but it would be nice to do it whenever we like, would go well with the injured stance!
Crab walk and marching should totally also be updated into walks.
Then we can march like in days of sunlight
im not talking only about season of aurora but in general, also i just like black more, its not like we have more black than green cosmetics jeez, its okay if u like it the way it is but i dont
Most don't like it because it's not an appealing shade of green and yellow, plus weird lightning issue. In context it work well with the season, only need some tweak to somehow be more versatile with majority of the cosmetics. I hate seeing "It's a vault season so it should be blue", these spirits are refugees, they're not from vault. Yes blue shade from the first build is better overall but new version isn't that bad.
this come off really aggressive, i apologize.
its not like i dont like green cosmetics, the green cape and pants from this season are really pretty, but like the person above said it depends on shade of green— i also wanted black cape and pants in the new season because i dont have any black cosmetics sadly and they looked cool before 😔😔
i wonder if the reason we didn't have more green cosmetics is because of the lighting issue 
but if the blue version was better why we can't have it back? we're just asking for it to go back, isn't like we're asking for them to remake the whole pants
Even if another color looked better, it may mean more for the story and such to have it stay this greenish yellow color. Especially to symbolize they are refugees from golden wasteland, which is covered in that yellow-green color scheme. It shows they're outsiders in vault
wasteland doesn't only mean yellow-green, even the spirits in the arc and abyss don't have a single thing of green or yellow, also they should take in account how those yellow-green colours are hurtful when you have eye problems, more now with the light bug
Let me clarify then. I didn't mean the wasteland spirits are yellow-green. The actual environment is. It's mainly that ugly green color. And having these new spirits be a similar color scheme shows they are outsiders in vault. Which is mainly these dark blues and purples. They don't fit in, and have been forced out of their homes, by war or whatever crisis was happening.
Also yes the light bug sucks, but personally if the bug gets fixed, and as Crowe said earlier, the pants tweaked, I think it will work.
I personally don't think the outsiders have to be in the same wasteland ugly colour to show that they're outsiders, at least not completely, if they look haggard and have some stuff in these colours maybe but there's no reason the pants have to be yellow-green, especially more so when it's aimed for the players
I mean we can't know what the devs' final ideas for the season is. Maybe they do plan for them to be this way. But since you feel so strongly, I do suggest leaving feedback. I was just giving my personal thoughts on it since I'm not terribly bothered by the colors minus the bug ofc
I already left feedback
I haven't checked #beta-discussion in 3 days and it's still the same discussion about the colors of the pants.
I actually like the new colors more than the deep blue. They feel more earthy to me and more in tune with representing the repressed spirit population in Sky. The blues were inconsistent to me and I didn't like how they looked in the dark. I think the green is easier to match across several outfits from the season as well.
Is there not gonna be a 3rd ult for remembrance?
I'm wondering this as well. I suspect there will be but if so devs are holding their cards very close.
I doubt it since the ults are currently both 2 hearts
Hey, a note. The remembrance cosmetics and. Heck, even the season name reminds me a lot of a fan artist's creations.
Not in a good way. This feels badly specific.
i forgor, is it possible to link the post that has the cosmetic comparisons here
As a note, I'm genuinely not trying to start something. But I would like clarification this person's art wasn't used without their permission. ^^"
Which art?
https://at.tumblr.com/fiomeras/704350974775541760/oxok1w4sgzsj (the possibility of linking in this channel is what i was asking about)
judging by the artist's comments on the fact their art was used like this. it very much seems like they didnt agree to this
Well, tgc has used fan made concepts for things before, like the Storyteller's pants 
What did I walk into?
well, i dont know the story with the storyteller and whether that case was okay, but its kinda messed up that theyd use someones art without their permission
This also happened before Ash join TGC but there was legal approach.
See it here
#beta-discussion message
I wouldn't assume that they would use fanarts without permission
Yeah in this case they clearly didn't
That's kinda really concerning
It feels like too much to be a coincidence. That's what I'm saying.
yeah what gen said
Oh wow that message was posted on my birthday! 
Like if it were one thing. But. All of those at once is a bit much. I'm not trying to fling accusations, etc. I'd just like to know more about the thought process behind the creation of said cosmetics.
yeah, and also that the problem here isnt that the concepts were used, but that the artist who made them clearly didnt give their permission, or else they wouldnt have been that upset about it
When were the original concepts made by that artist?
I do also want to point out: the paperboy hat and headscarf is not something unique only to their characters. That's something a lot of people wear in general.
Same goes with the basket of flowers - it's very common with farming
I'd check but I don't know how Tumblr works 
i'm checking their archive rn but there is too much to sort through lol
I'm trying to find their og post w/ the art, but I'm struggling tbh 
trying to track that down, theres A Lot in their art tag
I don't want to overwhelm them. So please don't go spamming their inbox. Or anything.
As an artist i just. I'm quick to take up arms for other artists.
I'm also an artist and in this case
Honestly the game interpretations are exactly like the irl counterparts and if you've seen enough character design you'll know that those elements are pretty common
So I'd chalk it to coincidence tbh
i can't find it in 2022 so might be 2021, the similar is concerning tbh.
And I just think that it's very unlikely of tgc to do such vile things such as using fan made arts/concept without legal actions
It's not the headscarf and flowers like. Specifcally. It's all of it at once.
Like is suddenly every head scarf wearing character having their ideas taken lol
It's likely both artists took inspiration from the same source at around the same time, that's a rather common occurrence
and also the use of the same name
I don't mean to start anything. Again. I just. This person seemed so hurt. Don't spam them or anything.
But. All of that at once doesn't.. feel like a coincidence.
And this isn't me pointing fingers or anything.
I want clarification so they can feel less hurt.
Don't think anyone here is gonna spam them, I myself have no intention of interacting with the og post
But I agree with Gen in the sense it would be nice to have a clarification, coincidences exist
i want to know how did both side came up with the name, since these kind of design fit for a lot of titles
the best we could do is and think how did this happen, i don't want to ask them too much about it either
There are coincidences. But the name specifically attached to these fan cosmetics. Too.
I just wanna know how it came about.
The spirit names are still different as far as I can tell
Oh great I’m happy you guys are discussing this cause it’s happened to me as well js
The spirit names are different. But the season name is the same.
I also had a similar idea and concept for vault which I’m sure they were inspired for this season it’s not direct copy but I see the inspo
I also had similar where I tried to brainstorm a vault season and the seasonal area is actually very close to what I envisioned it to look like
but the story concept was totally different
Oh is there any pictures ??
Controversial Storm incoming
https://at.tumblr.com/fiomeras/704350974775541760/oxok1w4sgzsj bottom right corner
Once again specifying. I'm only bringing this up because the artist seemed so upset.
I've known Mera since.. near my sky beginning . I don't think she's the type to lie about this.
I mean I knew it already was happening . One of my bird masks designs are used for ultimate gift one season I was really shocked to see it
But like, it's not like the clothing designs are completely original designs
They're just wearing common clothes for characters in such a setting
okay so their remembrance theme around typical romance (and possibly angst) , hence the painter and flowers. So it might just be pure coincidence, farmer girl isn't a new concept anyway
Was Inspiration allowed? Like, TGC didn't 100% copied that fan-art.
I'd also like to note that usually you don't see all the 20+ iterations of character design that has led to the final product ending up in beta
makes a sky season concept idea
angry when tgc puts their wanted idea in the game
what?
Oh damn yeah looks like they took some ideas from you. I think they took inspiration from the concept I wrote out and the windchimes I included
theres a difference between "man wouldnt this be fun" and "i made this for them to use"
We don't think they're lying about anything, just that maybe they were mistaken in thinking they got their concept stolen
They should be proud when TGC use their idea for the season because they admire their art.
No, their feelings are valid.
Don't say people should be grateful when they're hurt.
I just wish they would give more credit to us artists with unique ideas you know that’s all 😦 I’m just saying it’s been a pattern of them using similar designs from fans and changing like two or one small thing about it
YEAH LIKE?? they themselves inspired tgc don't call them vile people
thats called stealing
It's not that simple. Sometimes people make stuff for fun and don't want it to be used, or at least not without them being contacted first.
Art isn't made to be just taken. Compensation should be paid if they actually did take inspiration from them. For their monetized game.
But, Yeah. stealing is not good. TGC should do something for the artist
"sometimes"?? 
Right I agree with that I had mixed feelings when I saw my design in the game a few seasons ago 😓 I was happy but at the same time sad cause I want some credit
I can say for a fact I would be very excited if my ideas went in, but not every artist feels the same. Some people just don't. 
"Sometimes"? Stealing is never okay in this kind of context.
THIS!!! this right here, just because someone makes a fan concept doesn't mean they want a company to get heavily inspired by it w/o permission first and/or compensation
Could we not invalidate the artists' feelings about this? Whether it is a coincidence or not, the OG artist has the right to be angry about it
No No. I type wrong. damn it
theres also the possibility that its a complete coincidence
Yes thank you 🥹 I want to give them a hug rn
I'm gonna bring this up again for sake of argument but
The European-esque clothing style is not unique to the concepts alone and are used in a majority of games and other media. It is not exclusive to the individual designs here.
But it is valid that the artist feels rightfully upset that too many elements overlapped between their ideas and this season.
These two ideas can coexist.
Exactly. Just because one person feels the same, doesn't mean someone else will
By the looks of it this artist didn't do it willingly for TGC to notice them
When I submitted my idea that was used I submitted it into beta feedback so I think that was easier to view then anything else
Which design was it? If you don't mind me asking
We don't know if TGC copy from their work. Might be coincidence, if they don't want to have any resemblance to their work then we should bring up this in case TGC didn't know
Contact support is a thing. Although due to holidays is taking longer then usual, but It seems he didn't contact them.
If I were in the artist's position (in that TGC used similar ideas to a concept I made w/o asking me about something), I would contact TGC about it.
like gen has said several times, there is way too much overlap for it to be a coincidence. its not just about any specific item, its about the fact theres many of them combined with the name
That's the thing. There's people that willingly submit concepts in the wishlist and ideas channel. This artist specifically. Didn't. Meaning, if this was stolen or not, they never gave permission of any kind
Ahhh lol my brain I forgot the season name but the recent ultimate gift bird mask it was a season after flight
Performance?
BUT I made (and might still make) Season concepts with the idea that they could maybe, one day, be put into the game, even with some minor changes.
puts Remembrance spirits in the controversy jar along with Dancing Performer and Star Collector
It was performance yes!!
TGC do a big oppise or coincidence. The 2 things on our minds now.
Wait what did star collector do lol
It is fishy the name Remembrance from this artist is also linked to the same kind of cosmetics, same style, same historical era
But it is just that. Fishy.
Apparently early collector was seen as a Jewish stereotype
