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i was young and had no idea what i was doing lol
Ooohhhh lol
I've seen my friends who never played platforming games say that this was the hardest level in the game sooo
They just didn't understand it. If you proceed with that level correctly, the jumps you need to do are trivial. The problem many young players have is that they don't care about the lore, so they just ignore the history panels and try to proceed without them. In this level, reading each history panel does something. I'm actually surprised to learn that it's possible to complete that level without doing that.
There are actually multiple ways to make the climb without filling the tower! I loved doing it while playing solo/offline so I could visit the cloth whale in the side room 
Here's a video demonstration of a "dry" climb as a red cloak, courtesy of Tara's Sky Journey :]
https://youtube.com/watch?v=hJYImp8X0Go&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
That's impressive. Oh, it doesn't count. They used a glitch. Well, they made no progress with the glitch. Okay, it counts.
Haha, yeah, the glitch is just to reach the whale in the ceiling - the rest of it is a matter of routing. You can also take advantage of the game's physics to build up momentum for flying. Here's another video showing that off, from TheAinshentMariner
https://youtube.com/watch?v=-rbO0mgsPEo&si=EnSIkaIECMiOmarE
(This is not quite a glitch, so much as a trick that takes advantage of the flying mechanics through skillful movement & camera angling . But I understand if you see it as "not counting," haha.)
Hello
Before i played Sky i adored Journey long ago. I sent this on Twitter not long ago to show love, figured it belongs in here. Journey is really still holding part of my heart, def one of a kind in many ways for sure.
I always tell people who have it but never played, please do.💜
(Then i tell them to come honk at me in Sky lol)
Most people seem to forget about Cloud. It was actually TGC’s first game
Pls post in #beta-screenshots-videos
This is so beautiful! It reminded me of how much I used to love Journey years ago.
I used to think sky was just a journey rip off before I learnt it was by the same company 
Thank you so much! It was actually my love of Journey that made me curious about trying Sky when i found out they were made by the same creators- honestly everything they have created has a vibe like no other company I’ve seen.
saaame
Can we play with my friend if we download Journey’s app?
In theory, yes. But playing together with a specific friend is a bit tricky. Journey has random matchmaking, looking for people that play on the same platform as you and are near you (in the game and per IP afaik)
There are some guides and tips for how to meet up with a specific person, but Journey isn't really designed for that. It's intended that you meet other travelers and just journey together with them for a while and make a connection that way
Thank you
Idk if this is a hot take but I prefer journey infinitely more than sky
they have similar themes, but ultimately they're two very different games with different goals
Journey is an experience, start to finish
it's an exploration in how minimalistic storytelling and communication can be while still being incredibly touching (perhaps even more so)
Sky is an MMO, an online game - designed for mobile, no less - that lives off being played and replayed again and again
so it is less minimalistic, more to do, more to explore, but also more to grind, more to communicate
less of a sophisticated experience, but with a bit more replayability (tho Journey is also highly replayable)
Imo Sky is wayyy more replayable than Journey. Because Journey is meant to be a one time experience which u will remember forever. Where Sky is meant to be a glorified Social Media (kinda).
I wouldn't say Journey is meant to be a one-time experience
It is quite literally designed to lead you back to a new start
but it's designed to be more of a three time experience
or a once a year experience
every journey is a unique experience, and your first one is unforgettable
but yes, it does not have the 'designed to be played every day' factor that Sky does
Many people say that Sky and Journey are very same but they are ofc very different. I would say that the game Matt Nava and the former TGC team created after leaving TGC is more similar to Journey than Sky.
Journey is a lonely game, i play it once in a while in mobile, you are lucky if you encounter a white robed one and lead you, unlike sky many people are willing to take your hand
In Journey it's impossible to meet up with more than one person at once. But there is a wide variety in people you might meet. They may be complete beginners in a red cloak. They may have run the whole thing 15 times and be wearing white. And either one of those might be busy doing their own thing or might welcome company and do what you want. It's very varied.
You're much more likely to encounter other players in Sky compared to Journey. I don't think it's a bad thing - in fact, I feel that the loneliness of a solo adventure, or a fleeting connection with a companion, only adds to the atmosphere the game is trying to create.
oh no hes cold
I'm wondering if I want to buy a journey
I mean, that's up to you. It's a beautiful game, and I'm sure others here would agree that it's worth playing.
Try a deep cry. Sometimes it melts the ice around them.
im wingless because i got krilled a lot of times. it needs me to fly up, what can i do?
Haven't played journey myself yet, so this might be wrong, but I think you can unfreeze those pieces of fabric to the right of your screen (by calling I think, but am not 100% sure there) and use those to go up.
https://www.fangamer.com/collections/journey/game_journey this? appears to be sold out
That is absolutely correct. All frozen fabric can be temporarily unfrozen by calling close to them, or just by standing/floating next to them. They'll behave as if they weren't frozen while you're there, allowing you to use them to traverse the landscape as normal.
(hi, hi! I'd just like to say thank you for your recommendations 🙏 finally got around to checking out some songs
her top played song on spotify wasn't really my style, but I really adore all of the songs you specifically recommended. will check out more of her stuff for sure!
also oh wow I actually saw/heard All Is Full Of Love before, thank you for reminding me of this beautiful song)
you're welcome !! i'm glad you enjoyed it 😊
Is this in apple app yet
Journey? afaik, Journey is available on iOS, yee
An interesting fact: Journey's music "Apotheosis" is inspired from the track called "Define Dancing" made by Thomas Newman in the movie "WALL-E".
ohhh yeah I can see that
Oh, wow. The best musical piece from Journey (to me) was inspired by the best musical piece of WALL-E (to me). And both are my favorites of their respective media! That's epic!
im new in this game, and when i want to select a chapter it always say this, how can i save progress?
@jovial hare When you have started a journey, you have to continue it by selecting "continue". If you go to chapter select, u will lose all that progress.
Until you finish a chapter anything you get isn't saved with your progress. If you want to keep whatever you got, you must finish the chapter you got it in.
you actually lose progress unlike other versions if you return to chapter select, the game saves when you collect a symbol or a mural or something significant happens
ios has additional save points compared to playstation and pc
I just installed journey, so excited to play it!
You have to at least complete the game once to be able to go to chapter select. Then simply click Esc/Start button and select "Chapter Select".
This channel is for the non-Sky games
Try #screenshots-and-videos 🙏
Happy Birthday Journey! Here’s a photo I edited from the me playing the game on PS5. Journey is one of my favourite games 
iconic journey moment
♥️😭 Happy Birthday
Particularly nice art for the poster this year 
!help
try honking really loudly @dusky yoke!
Another Journey photo I edited 
Awww I missed it. Happy anniversary to Journey!
i just played journey again and met someone and we died together too :,3 i havent been able to play with someone for that long yet
hopefully theyre in this server, and if not. ill try n find them somehow! i named them wiggles ^_^
i noticed they died a bit more times than me too lol
I was heartbroken when I helped someone through the long open field with a guardian hovering over it, and they got caught and lost some of their scarf. From what I could see they knew not to run at that point but accidentally pressed the wrong button, or had a controller failure. Up to that point they'd had a very long scarf.
it happens!

Can you not save your progress in journey? Do you need to finish it in one go?
The game does save your progress but on a level basis. It saves the last level you have been and not what you do at that level. So if u almost complete a level but then quit the game and come back you have to do that level from the start.
Each level in Journey except the last one should take less than 30 minutes. Though you might spend an hour on one if you're determined to find every last collectable.
@tall vessel
NO WAY YOURE HERE TOO
except the final level, it doesnt save until after the first section of the credits to mark that the journey has been finished. also ios has more save points
OK
open test server where what?
do you mean the sky beta?
this is the wrong channel for that
this channel is for the non-Sky games like Journey and Flow
read #beta-faq and ask in #beta-discussion if you're having trouble
Is journey in Google play store?
windows means egs and steam
@Mahpiohanzia#8927
How can i back to my normal size :')?
got on that one krill guy part, never playin journey again/j
btw this was when i got on that part
are you talking about sky? try asking in #questions-and-help
shhh they're friends they're harmless just say hi
okay! 😟😟
im broke
This channel is not for Sky. It's for other games by the same company.
omg, this game is so much fun, and it's absolutely gorgeous!!!!!
Sky is far more sophisticated and colourful. But there's something magical about the look of Journey. I don't know what it is, but it works.
Games like Journey will never become old, no matter how long time passes.
harder to find someone to play with tho. And you'll never be able to meet them again once you see them
Well, it's possible to grab a companion's PS name if you watch the credits, where it shows the username of players you journeyed with during that session. Then you can friend them and arrange more meet ups, or possibly recognize them in the credits sequence if you happen to run into them again. (It's not very likely, sure, but still possible if you put forth the effort
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I actually added the person I went through Journey with on steam since the name was in the credits and they gifted me a game afterwards! it was really sweet of them 
I want to play Journey some day but I know I won't ever get my T.V. to work with a PlayStation. I've heard lots of good things about it but I've always wondered about the Guardians... what happens if they snatch away your entire scarf? I know in Sky if Dark Dragons snatch all your winged lights away you get sent to a pity room. Is that also true for Journey?
Guardian rips your scarf. By the time you meet your first guardian, you have a long enough scarf that it probably isn't going to take all of it. I suppose you could intentionally play the game keeping the scarf as short as possible, and getting hit by as many guardians as possible, just to see what happens. I'd imagine you just get tossed in the air as normal. Maybe I'll try it.
War Machines will tear away a bit of your scarf every time, and you can indeed lose all your scarf after enough hits. You'll get flung around as normal when hit after that point, yes.
There's no pity room/game over screen, though, because it's completely possible to play the game without a scarf! There's always a way to continue progressing forward without flying; usually in the form of helpful cloth strips you can use to float up along, or cloth creatures who will carry you 
That's cool, Journey has ways for players to get around without scarves. Neat.
Where can I get journey
My message kept getting bonked, probably because automod thought I was trying to sell something, but here's where it can be obtained.
Ohh, i wasn't know, thx
SINCE WHEN???? Krill spells just got an op buff😭
I thought they only lasted 30seconds
60**
Wrong channel; #other-tgc-games isn't for discussing Sky content. Try posting in #general-sky-discussion or #cozy-sky-discussion instead 
why is journey still scary to me😟 like im surprised i got the return trophy bcuz of that krill guy but dang
its the epic part
i played journey for the first time today and that's exactly my feelings.
i hovered at the 'entrace' for the first guardian for probably 10 minutes before actually entering
I came to play Journey after Sky so when I saw that there's this spooky area after the sliding area, I knew that there's gonna be something like the krills in Sky. But what I didn't expect is the jumpscare that happens at the start. I literally jumped out of my chair lol.
And then the rest of the level I was so scared that I avoided ALL the guardians and managed to get the Achievement in my first playthrough.

no way. haha. That is exactly how I did the stage. to the T.
I knew something was coming because i had seen someone in here say "the krill like monsters in journey" so I knew something would be coming. So I was already terrified when I dropped down underground and I screamedddd at that jumpscare and from that point on I glued myself the right side walls to not risk any kind of contact with the guardians. When I came to that last bit before the "temple"(?), where two are pratolling the passage I took all my courage and get that ,...("Winged Light", i dont know the terms sorry) so that I could try flying over them and made it through without getting hit so I also got the achievement on my first playthrough because I was too scared to explore and just hid in the shadows lol . hi five
But my heart was pounding out of my chest.
I have several hundred hours in my Sky Game and I am STILL terrified of krill. And every time I feel a bit more calm I get krilled from a freak accident and am re-traumatized lol.
And the guardians felt the same.
It was the middle of the night when i was playing -i get ever more spooked then- and I seriously considered quitting Journey because it took me 10 minutes to even dare go further into the first Guardian area TT
I am not made for these kind of levels lol
Lol as for me in the last part, I stood at the slope for several minutes, trying to pin down their pattern and then try to avoid getting caught. I still got caught and then pressed W haard to slide as fast as I could.
Everyone agonises about how to get down that final slide without being hit. But then you find out that they can't hit you there even if they see and chase you. First time certainly does get the pulse rate up!
Their scream of rage when they hit the barrier is a big part of that encounter for me.
I am a Journey and Flower casual veteran before Sky, but dang my whole family screamed at that part the first time!
And even then, we still screamed during Abyss tasks!
Because you're supposed to be scared of warmachines, or else TGC would've just called them cuddlymachines.
I think it's a glitch, but they can actually hit you. I've lost part of my scarf on that final slide exactly 1 time. Don't know how it happened, though. Went in with a loooong scarf (had gotten all lights up to that point), was sad and disappointed when I lost part of it. Was looking forward to having a really long scarf in the temple.
I do absolutely think it was a glitch, though, because I didn't see myself get hit at all, and I avoided the guardians through the entire level. Just my luck, I'd run into a glitch. 🤣
Yes, sometimes the WMS get visually out of synch. Just bad luck. Happens more in the Snow patrol fields
I've seen that happen a couple times with met Wayfinders... We'll be trudging along through the snow when they'll randomly go flying, hit by a guardian despite it being off in the distance on my screen. Makes it hard to make it through, since I have no clue where their guardians are, and they have no clue where mine are.
Journey time
This is not a TGC game.... I notice this is your first post in this server, so I'd just like to point out that this is not the place to share unrelated game content
Also, I believe this is not quite family-friendly so <@&600489743716712458>
@gloomy spear please read the message above 
so i unlocked my white cape today - have the transcendence steam achievement and all but when i came back to the game my glyph is missing and i lost the cape. is there something i can do about that?
To get the white robe, you have to go to the right side of the chapter select where you can see long stripes of white clothes. Touch it and you'll get the white robe.
yes i did that after i collected the last glyph, ran around chapter select for a bit and closed the game
when i came back the stripes of cloth were gone and a spot is missing where i collected the glyph
好
If Journey has ever let you wear the white cape, it should always show you the white cape in that position. If you can no longer choose the white cape, something is wrong with the game. Try rebooting your device.
If a spot is missing where they collected a glyph, it's possible the game didn't save that glyph being collected. Easiest method would be to go check that glyph and collect it again if it's not collected. If it is, and there are none that haven't been collected, then it's likely a glitch.
hi
Hello
Hi
Hello all!
I see that some of you are new to the server. This channel is for the non-Sky games like Journey or Flower. If you're interested in these, feel free to start up a conversation.
Otherwise, if you want to chat about Sky, you should head over to #general-sky-discussion or #cozy-sky-discussion !
(Also, saying hi is very nice, but if you want to chat with people, it helps to write a bit more than that to get a response from people!
)
How do wayfarers shake hands? As a wayfarer how do you usually greet people? When you have no arms?
They chirp at each other all excited!
Handshakes are not the go-to greeting in all cultures. Obviously not in that of the travelers either 
I tend to do hyper honks then spin in circles. Major vibing would be faceplanting.
Hi
I just started yesterday and i still haven’t gotten my wayfarer to trip on their scarf/faceplant
(I use a controller & have access to a keyboard)
Tripping/faceplants can be performed with specific inputs! The fandom wiki for Journey has a really nice compilation of guides on how to pull it off with both a controller & keyboard 
https://journey.fandom.com/wiki/Faceplant_(FP)
(I play on PS3 and prefer the "flick" method, where you rapidly flick the left stick up & down a few times.)
Hi I just started Journey today! Would anyone mind giving me some non-spoiler tips? I’d appreciate it! 
If you honk at the frozen cloth, you can still us it, even if it might seem you can't. (Or so I've heard)
Ohhh ty!
jorney
Stick to the left side of the spooky underground area and you might just find a surprise 👀
And lmk if you want to join a journey community server. I can share an invite via dms
It's also in the pins here I think
Oh! Good to know
I didn't think to check here first 😅
Ty! I’ll be sure to look for it 
Do you keep white cloak if you start a new journey?
You can start a new journey with it, yes! Any time you visit the chapter select, you can switch between red or white by walking into the tall cloth banners that appear after collecting all symbols. However, you cannot start a totally fresh save file (1st tier cloak embroidery) as a white cloak.
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On an existing save file where you've obtained it, visit the chapter select area to change into the white cloak.
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Quit to the game title screen.
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Start a new game. You'll be warned that any current progress will be lost; click "yes" to continue.
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Tadah! You are now a white cloak right from the very beginning of the game!

@tawny scroll @tawny scroll
I see that you seem to new to the server. This channel is for the non-Sky games like Journey or Flower. If you're interested in these, feel free to start up a conversation.
Otherwise, if you want to chat about Sky, you should head over to #general-sky-discussion or #cozy-sky-discussion !
(Also, saying hi is very nice, but if you want to chat with people, it helps to write a bit more than that to get a response from people!
)
Hello, can i play together in journey with my sis?
In theory, yes, but it's a bit tricky. Journey pairs players together randomly if they're playing on the same system, are near each other ingame, and are near each other irl. There are some guides around the internet on how to connect with a specific person on purpose (tho I don't have any at hand right now).
But Journey wasn't really designed to play together with a specific person, the point of the game is to make a connection with random people you meet on the way with minimal communication.
that method is a bug and only works in pc and ps3
To that person who helped me during my first journey.. thank you so much!! 
And sorry for letting u get hit by robotic fly thing
I didnt find u after reborn /cries/
It was really nice to br your companion. I hope u have a good day! 
Oh, is that so? I couldn't find any information about it online so I didn't realize (and my only reference is the PS3 version, haha).
Though like I mentioned in my initial reply, you can still play as a white cloak on a new journey by visiting the 'closet' at the chapter select area, so it's not that big of a difference in the end :>
hey, does anyone know how to get past the super spooky part where the guardian (i think that’s its name) is?
Are you talking about the dark underground area? You can avoid the Guardians/War Machines there by sticking to the left side of the rooms! Their patrol paths stick towards the center, but you can also hide from their lights by using the tunnels/broken pieces as cover. (Be careful not to get spotted, though, because unlike Krill, you can't lose the attention of Guardians.)
ahh, doesn’t the left spot also have broken pieces? just thought of that so that might be a good idea, thanks!
photographer must be https://www.instagram.com/justin.cosplay/ but I don't see this in his gallery yet
might be worth keeping an eye on it and see if they post any photos where they tag the cosplayer
yes, the ps3 method has been patched in ports, pc introduced a new version of the bug relating to quit to title. yes i know, your response is still valid.
also the trick requires an existing white robe save beforehand
Oooh, thanks!
I see! Thanks for letting me know; I didn't even realize that was a bug - I thought it was an intended mechanic 
But yes, it's impossible to start a completely fresh save with the white robe. (Apparently the texture for a 1st tier embroidery on a white cloak doesn't even exist in the game!) I'm sure there are some folks who are really devastated by that fact, haha.
fun fact: there's a white robe cheat that enables the wardobe forcefully without collecting anything and that actually gives you a 2nd tier wayfarer
its a developer flag that could be enabled on pc via mods
the pc ports left artifacts behind exposing a lot of the game script assets
probably shouldnt talk about that
ios shipped with a lot more of exposed scripts
in playstation every script is contained on the main executable
Huh, that is very interesting. I know so very little about any of the other versions, and will definitely have fun reading further into the differences. But you're right that it's probably not something that should be talked about, since it could be considered an exploit :']
i... i just wanted to be helpful 
yeah, journey wiki is excellent for exploring the game differences
if you want to look more into that, you might want to hop into the server that is in the pins in this channel
there's a channel for topics just like that I think
Ohh, that's really neat! I could spend hours diving into a wiki like that 
its not done yet
its mostly a home for flow and flower since sky and journey already have their respective wikis
that reminds me, i have to find that page that talked about flow mechanics on some random wiki site
Well, I look forward to checking it out when it is finished, then
flOw and Flower are just as interesting so it's a shame they don't already have dedicated wiki's.
Staying on the far left is easier than trying to dart between cover along the middle of the course. There's no cover but the Guardian doesn't look there. However, right at the end there's a very short piece where the Guardian can see you, so you have to time the final dash into the doorway at a time when the Guardian is not close.
Holy moly. I mean, in my games that cloak is brown, not red, but that's still a magnificent piece of work.
I think it's supposed to be red, but fair.
Hmm. websearches show a split in homemade stuff and cosplay between red and brown, not too far away from 50/50. I hadn't realised there was even a question about it.
huh. Fun.
they're too small for a dedicated wiki
I just finished journey :D
and how did you like it?
Shhhh. They need sleep and chocolate. You can ask them tomorrow.
how is Journey like, do you just complete it once and touch it never again or do you get to do bunch of fun things like in sky
yes thats a foolish fool question but i only know that it looks cool thats it
no foolish questions!
Journey is not designed to be played constantly like Sky, but it is designed to be played more than once
The fun Journey provides is mostly focused on the very first and the occasional playthrough, but it doesn't need more than that. Journey is very minimalistic and that is part of what makes it so great.
It is a wonderful experience that I think everyone should experience at least once.
A lot like the very first time you played through Sky up until Eden, but more intense
wish i could try it man because it sounds cool
srry that this is the wrong group,but is the link to join beta still available?
the invite link channel isn’t showing for me
We talk about Journey, Flow, and Flower here. I'd look in the #beta-faq channel, or some of the other beta channels.
Guys, may I ask a thing; how/where to download Flower?
Idk about other platforms but for steam, it shows their steam ID.
You can play Flower on PC (Steam/GOG/Epic Games) or Playstation (seperately or as part of Journey Collector's Edition)
also apparently on iOS
I found someone that plays journey, how to get it ? Cuz I looked at the store and there's nothing there 
Steam and Playstation should have it as a download.
Steam, Playstation and iOS
Not available for android?

Byabya hack
Wait Is it available on Xbox 360 ?
Nope
Why

What is flower about I’m thinking of getting it but I’m not sure
Roughly; a flower's dream of bringing greenery to the planet.
Ah ok ty
Because Journey is Sony's IP soooooo
Thank you!
Is flower on ps4/nintendo switch???
not on switch, but it is available on ps4 as stand-alone game or as part of the Journey Collector's Edition
Yo guys i have upgraded my pc still bad but better than before
i upgrade the gpu from gt210 to gt730 4gb
i did a test in 2 sites but both of these sites gave me different result
can someone tell me if i can run journey?
more info
er. That seems to say yes, you can? Everything passed?
yeah but there's another site shows the gpu not passed
ah
just buy it and give it a try? if it doesn't run well at all, you can always refund it
i didn't know there's a refund
thanks
I think you can usually refund a game under 2 hours of playtime on steam
enough to figure out if a game runs on your system
Lol my PC is worse than yours and it can still run Journey, although in like 20 fps.
i will never forget you 😢
JOURNEY CAPE
Even sky doesn't have journey cape
And these people bringing in imposter games

Sky does have a Journey cape
available on a PS4
but that does look sketchy
gacha schlock and copyright infringement, the inseparable duo
I wish Journey was on Switch
oh same
How do I save my progress in journey?
I’ve been playing in a play station and it always says start new journey
It sholud auto-save once you finish a level.
OHH
HOLD THE PHONE, THAT'S ONE OF THE CONCEPT ART TRAVELER CLOTHES WITH THE BITS OF STRING ON IT
Cheap mobile games using fake art as advertising? More likely than you think
I tried to run journey it didn’t launched at all any solution? (Nothing appeared)
What hardware and OS ?
Win10 i dont remember Hardware but they was enough to run atleast 30fps imo @cunning linden
Nothing obvious. I would try rebooting
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Just joined and finished a session in Jornery with a white robe on PC. If you're name is Seibel im the red robe nooby <3 (I found them!)
when we in a cutsence in sky cotl, there may be other players in there. we can see what they do while we r in cutsence.
is that same that when we in the ending credit or still page in Journey, sometimes we can occasionally see other players ?
sorry my engish is poor that it may be bad to understand.
I don't think those are actually other players in the ending scene
Does journey and sky share the same universe?
Most likely not.
Those are definitely not other players. Unless the game substitutes in NPC models if you're offline, you can still see them all if you're not online (my first 2 runs, I didn't have internet, so speaking from experience).
It would make sense for them to do just that, though... After all, the first "player" we see is actually an NPC model. It would make sense for them to put in models to take the place of players if players are unavailable (aka, offline).
I don't think they are players, though, personally.
I HAVE AN IDEA
So, y'know moths and butterflies? (Begginer players and older players)
Do we have those for journey?
Not that I'm aware of
Players are usually referred to by their cloak color (red robe & white robe) and/or cloak embroidery level but that doesn't always indicate experience. Do you have an idea in mind?
usually white robes are seen as experienced
its easier to fancy fly as white
not directly, but the community associated the cloak colors and robe tiers shaping the possible skill of a player, for example, a second tier white robe could be someone who just got all the symbols but doesnt know much, or a third red robe could be someone into the game but who hasnt found all the symbols or it could be someone advanced
I had an idea of what we could call them!!
Beginner players: Wanderers
End game/Advanced players: Traveling Wanderer
:D
the credits happen all offline, you can spot a few instances of wayfarers in the world but those represent other travellers out there.
still page? you can see yourself and/or the companion in the screensaver if the camera is on the right view.
you can move during cutscenes in journey and flower
Note: Traveling Wanderer means somone who wanders and explores places, but doesnt stay in just one place.
Wanderers are people who pace around and explore one area or world
there's no model substitution happening.
the companion can either be a puppet or a networked player.
the only instances where you see the puppet are in the credits and in chapter select, otherwise in other levels the puppet exists but its not visible or very far from you
when there's no player connected the companion is invisible, there are glitches where it may be visible for a moment.
Right after you meditate with the first spirit and unlock the door, there is an NPC model that appears in silhouette in the bright light, far off through the doorway that walks away. Devs have said it's been out there to indicate this is where you can first run into players, and it is. The great carpet bridge is the first place you cna pair up with players.
I didn't mean actual "players" are puppets or anything. My bad.
I love being ignored 🥲 👍
its not an npc model, instead of a puppet companion
True! White robes are associated with advance playing, and reb robes the opposite, but it isn't always accurate when judging another in-game companion at a glance. Although it's the most common community used terms, haha.
A skilled/veteran player still have the option to play as a red for the challenge, or by starting a new save, while a newbie with a completionist attitude can get a hold of the white robes for their second ever run.
its valid but also doesnt sound very original. its okay through!
the wanderer is a traveller so it makes no sense to divide them like that. /gen
first tier red robes cannot meet white robes except on iOS
there's red fancy fliers too!
Oh- Okay- :) 


You're not being ignored; there's multiple conversations that are going on 
The white/red robes are already pretty cemented as the terms used by the community, but I think yours are cute too! The only problem I see is that they might be a bit confusing since they're so similar.
see my reply as well ^^
i apologize if it sounded rude
I did, I'm just bad at recognizing social cues, thank you for your comments! I'll see if I can improve them and suggest them in the future 
:>>
its ok!
I look forward to hearing what you might come up with! 
me too /gen
I wish I could find the video where they talk about the multiplayer and all that. I remember the devs talking about the model that appears at the end of the first level, and about what their intention was when placing it. It's not a glitch, it's placed there intentionally, and I'm pretty sure it's visible to players offline.
The video might only be available in the TGC Collection's developer commentaries, though, which I don't currently have access to... I'd need to find my PS3 copy and all the cords to my PS3 in order to watch it again, and then it'd be difficult to share it.
im aware of that, the community has named the puppet "Nick"
there's an upload of the developer commentary of journey on youtube
again, its a entity not a model, specifically the companion entity
Then this whole discussion is about semantics... All started because I said NPC instead of calling it a puppet of the companion model... Which, regardless of whether it's an entity/puppet or not, is still correct. It's a character. It is non-playable (or non-player) at the time. Meaning it is a non-playable (or non-player) character. Aka, an NPC.
technically calling it a model isn't wrong either
model is just the technical term for any 3d model asset
entities do use models
sorry! im just all about accuracy.
for me a model is something that doesn't really interact with the world if that makes sense, im aware that models can move and animate
you would probably call that a prop then, or a static mesh
fair enough
The game Journey is very like Sky in a lot of ways. The game Flower looks and feels different. They are both terrific games.
uuuuuuuuuu ok!
YEAHH (i bought them at christmas time when it was like super super cheap for the both of em)
the basic 'plot' of Journey and Sky are very similar, but the experience of Journey is much more polished, much more intense
definitely give it a try
Hii
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if i have journey on an apple device am i able to get it on windows wothout having to pay again
i’m looking into buying journey but i’m noticing some very strange fluctuations is pricing
for example, ios is 5$ while pc steam is $15
is there anything different between the two?
Control schemes, and I think PC will perform better- Journey is a fairly simple game, yes, but it's also big/expansive, and that's done better with larger screen.
But I don't think there's anything substancial.
got it!!! thank you so much, i was so confused 😭😭😭
i’ll probably get the pc version then and beg my friends to gift me the pack so i can pay them back
lol.
Also!
You can only play with other people who have the same system. So, if you get pc, you can only play with PC players. It's sad.
its worse, you can only play either with steam or with epic version
game experience, no, but ios is more glitch prone and is more saving friendly
also there's no official support for those ports since 2021
so get the steam, right? sounds good, the last thing i want to do is buy the cheaper version but find myself regretting it
its better to play it on a ipad with a controller or hooked it up to a tv
you can get the steam version for cheaper during a sale
yeah i’ll probably wait until it’s on sale
pc has its own issues too
you cant experience the sound design as intended
its "minor"
like its there but half-broken
on pc? can you on mobile?
not sure about ios but on pc its notorious for having sound design issues that are not present in the original versions
if you can, i recommend getting it on playstation 4
playstation 3 has motion blur if you like that
i don’t have a playstation :’) and i think i’ve spent too much money to buy a whole playstation for just journey 😭
i suggest checking out the faq on wiki
for me it’s between mobile and pc
whichever you prefer best
will journey make me cry
yes
i can’t wait 😎
you'll still get quite an experience but it'll be subpar due to the aforementioned port issues
there's no companion music for instance
and the last level sound design is a little messed up
you’re confusing me 😭
i guess i’ll make my decision a bit later, since if i buy it on steam i’m waiting for it to be on sale
i suggest reading the community faq about the different versions of journey at journey wiki
im so sorry! dont worry about it, you've been warned through
you’re fine you’re fine! thank you so much for the feedback; you’re right i should read more into it before impulsively buying
thank you for pointing that out 😭😭😭
i wouldnt question buying such a beautiful game through ;3
i recommend flower unless you're sensitive to motion sickness
can you turn off motion blur?
unfortunately no.
journey got the motion blur disabled for ports starting with ps4
functionally: art game that makes you go to point a to point b
the lore about it is about a flower that soars the sky to free the city
can you turn it off for journey?
that sounds so tgc like LMAO
i just told you that only playstation 3 has motion blur, there's no video options in any of the games except on pc
flow'er
i went back to the museum after about a year, they didn’t have the game anymore but there were these

flower reference !

THERE‘S A MUSEUM?
the journey poster and ost were included in one of the exhibitions at a museum i visited 
its not a tgc museum if thats what you were asking about
you can play all three games (and many other legends) at MoMA until July 16 https://www.moma.org/calendar/exhibitions/5453
Oooooooh
I know this game since 2012 and I still find it so beautiful 💝
I love that part sm !!
i made it my banner in discord 
U
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You are ''the dream of a flower''. The game is collecting petals and flying as a swarm through different environments.. it has a much deeper emotional story than you might think. I highly recommend it.
hello
Yo! If you’re the white cloaked person who just finished Journey with a red cloaked traveller, that was me! Lemme know if you’re that person cause I was playing for the first time and you appeared after I’d just panicked with the carpet krill level (idk what they’re called) I really appreciate you leading me through the tower part, I don’t think I would’ve been able to get through that bit on my own. Thank you! (I think you might’ve been called Flowerskykid at the end bit?)
hi
To add to this, if you are here, DM me cuz I wanna give u something
@rare idol @onyx knoll
I see that you seem to new to the server. This channel is for the non-Sky games like Journey or Flower. If you're interested in these, feel free to start up a conversation.
Otherwise, if you want to chat about Sky, you should head over to #general-sky-discussion or #cozy-sky-discussion !
(Also, saying hi is very nice, but if you want to chat with people, it helps to write a bit more than that to get a response from people!
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You could try dropping your little post in the Journey server thank yous channel (check the pins!)
Tho there's of course the possibility that this player isn't on discord at all
Ooh kk! I didn’t know Journey had one!
I FOUND THEM IMMEDIATELY OMG- THEYD POSTED A THANK YOU IN THE CHANNEL LMAO
Oh, my God, I found the wrong place. I'm really sorry.
Pfft dw
I'm so glad 

gg
Such a happy ending :3
Hehehehe
Is there way to add people on journey?
not in-game but you can see their display name on the platform you play on for use to get in touch or send a friend request
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wdym ? I play on iOS
unfortunately in ios you cannot add friends unless you know their gamecenter email, you can see recent players profiles but that's it
Oh ok
In Journey you cannot arrange who you meet or who you play with. However in the clip-scene that shows as you finish the game it includes their nicknames and icons in a page which is part of the credit sequence for the game. If you are alert you can remember the nickname, or perhaps take a screenshot.
So you cannot arrange who you play with, but perhaps you can contact them after you met them on your Journey.
you can arrange a meeting with someone by agreeing where to meet and hope the matchmaker connects each other. you arrange via external means of communication
please read what i said, you cannot contact them in ios unless you know the email associated with the Game Center name
please see the journey wiki for more information: https://journey.fandom.com/wiki/Guide_to_arranging_a_meetup
Going to repost part of a journey theory from lore chat.
The guardians (also called War Machines) from the game are iconic, fearsome and mysterious.
They are flying stone creatures with a serpent like body, but with 3 pairs of wings.
It is also arguable for the face to resemble that of an owl, more so given there was once an older version of these guardians that resemble birds. Those were called beta war machines and miraculously are in the game. They are hidden in the race level.
I wonder if these may be related to the Quetzalcoatl (flying snake god), which is a "god of life, light and wisdom, lord of the day and the winds." (according to the wiki on Aztec mythology)
Any thoughts folks would like to share?
I think that TGC surely borrowed some inspiration from aztec design and mythologism to some extend (along with many other sources of inspiration), but no more than that
They like creating their own worlds with their own culture and not directly reference another real culture
Agreed 🙂
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it was necessary
SORRY I'M LAUGHING
ME TOO DW
BHAGSFHAA
bruh
Sorry 
Nothing happened here
can we not
No srs now sorry really
Yeah byeeee

you might find helpful information that confirms some of that on the development section of journey wiki and mentions from the developers
and the WM trivia section
Noted and have done so.
It was a fun read of the OOB, the beta and even the documentary of the game during its development.
AYOO
i really want to watch the flower and flow developer commentaries from the collector's edition but it seems nobody uploaded them to youtube
I was trying to take a screenshot of the back of my character but they gave me the side eye 😂
All I can say is, TGC's older designs were so CLUNKY. Reminds me heavily of the giant being walking around in Sky's in-game office.
Journey can be played on multiple different platforms, but it doesn't have cross play. Playstation 3 players can't connect with PC players, etc.
Hi there!
This channel is for the non-Sky games like Journey or Flower. If you're interested in these, feel free to start up a conversation.
Otherwise, if you want to chat about Sky, you should head over to #general-sky-discussion or #cozy-sky-discussion !
(Also, saying hi is very nice, but if you want to chat with people, it helps to write a bit more than that to get a response from people!
)
Um so Where do i download Cloud from?
@harsh reef @river kraken just so you both know, this is a channel specifically about TGC's other games, not a general off-topic chat
it would be good to take matters like that to DMs!
the download links there are dead through
i suggest ea largedownloads from web archive
They are so similar 
I don't really see similarities, beyond that being two low poly stylized kids
Is the one with the blue hair from Cloud or something? :o
Oooh I see then.
Hmmm. I gueeeees the feet and the beady lil' eyes are similar? And maybe the hands.
I need a guide to find winged lights. I finished vault of knowledge and now I need 20 winged lights. I'm at 16 rn.
Ask in #questions-and-help for faster response since this channel is for tgc games that are not Sky 
Back to topic
I tested the cloud game and it does feel like an experimental game rather than a full fledge one
During my playthrough, I wasn't really sure what I'm doing but just dragging my mouse around in the play area like crazy until I figured out that you're supposed to collect the clouds, and the white ones are the one you can control
Got a game over on the last of the 4 level realizing that you have to have a white cloud or it'll result to that. Dark clouds sap white cloud like they cancel each other out.
I do feel like the cloud flying mechanic in Sky is somewhat inspired from this game, but not the cloud collecting gameplay in general
And using art as a way to tell the story is great too
yes
??
Is journey on mobile or just ps ? 
It's on IOS, PS, and PC!
~~iPhone, iPad, Android, PlayStation ~~sorry, I was wrong.
Okay, thank you 
not Android.
It's on iPhone and iPad, PlayStation 3 and 4, and Steam. And I think another PC portal.
it's not on Android, or PS5
I love this game so much,thanks to That Game Company to Release it on iPad OS. ❤️🍏❤️🍏❤️
I believe it is on PS5 via backwards compatibility
Okay, cool. ^^
I played on IPad Pro 12,9 M2
tgc did not release it on ios, annapurna interactive together with inline assembly did, sony controls the ip
epic store
Epic, right, thank you
Doesn’t matters I’m happy about it 🥰
I play flower today on my ipad and I wish I have learned that I can change the control scheme 
Anyways, it really does feel like a minimalist adventure-puzzle game and I don't see much difference on the flowers' functionality except the purple ones gives speed boost while the light blue is like hidden secrets that if you collect them the flower pots will have 1-3 petals near it on the menu screen.
I especially like the last level where you finally earn the ability to break the electricity tower thingies and you become a tree.
It's also nice that the bonus/credits level are somewhat of a reminiscent of the past levels too bringing elements of different things there too.
If you get three petals on all six of your flowers you get access to a special bonus level. And yes, that part at the end when you finally get your full strength gives an excellent feeling. It's a good counterpoint to the events at the end of Journey and Sky, which work differently. If you play it enough you'll find nod to Flow in there.
I finally bought Flow for my ps4
My god the controls are confusing
The only control you have is tilting the controller, nothing else
Apparently you have to do it with one hand
You can use both hands. But yes, your control is "which direction do I swim in" and you do it by tipping the controller. Very unusual but it works fine for the game on many platforms, since smartphones have tip detectors now.
I just want to ask if Flower, Flow and Cloud are games that you guys would recommend playing?
Flower is my favorite out of the three, but I'd definitely recommend trying them all out! They're a really unique and lovely experience 
Play Flower. Like Journey, it is a game that there is nothing like and you won''t forget it.
@plucky trench @cunning linden Thank you, both~ I was considering getting the collectors edition on PS since it contains Flower and Flow as well but wasn’t sure so I appreciate you guys input ^^
I hope to see it on Android one day!
don't play flower if you're sensitive to motion sickness
it's not a bonus level, it only changes the initial chapter select screen to a unique one
i highly recommend playing it on playstation with sixaxis, motion controller instead of motion device
fun fact: the green teal flowers turn into normal flowers after you collected them when you play the level again
it's meditative
i find that the stick controls are a downgrade
unfortunately that's never, because support has been cut off in 2021

get it on pc where the stick is the control you move with instead of motion
each has their own preferences about both styles
personally motion is the most natural
stick controls is more limited because you can't go backwards and it's tied to the camera position
what you say purple is actually fuchsia
and the secret flowers are more like green
Thank you for the warning ^^
I will when I can afford it :,)
Isn't getting each flower three petals what gives you access to the 'Credits' level ?
no, credits level is reached after you complete the 6 levels
Oh. Okay. I remembered wrong. Thanks for the correction.
you seem to use the wrong words to refer to things too, i noticed
nothing wrong with that, just saying
earlier you were referring to companions along the way in a confusing way
hey
hello
Hello
Are players able to fly in Journey? Just like the way we fly in Sky
Not quite the same way as in Sky. The freedom and elegance of flying in Sky is unmatched.
But yes, in Journey you can float and fly for a bit
Wrong channel!
This one is for TGC's non-Sky games.
Go to #screenshots-and-videos to post videos and #live-feedback to let the devs know you prefer it this way.
I want to play Journey but I'm broke 
if you play steam and share your games with me I'll share journey with you 
I could also Share Play if you have Playstation, but that's limited in time and heavily depends on network speed and stability, could lead to a negative experience with the game if stability is poor
but you cant play together
that's by design
you can arrange meetings using clever ways of synchronization through
that's ok!
its always time for a journey playthrough :)
I can now say I’ve played every single TGC game
Flow and Flower, however… ugh they are beautiful but they’re a real workout for my arms
On Flower the camera is too sensitive
its easy to control, just make sure to not yoink the controller all over the place
i've speedran flower
Noted!
I do hate the electrical part though
Why’d they have to make the sound effect so startling
¯_(ツ)_/¯
about controls
try letting it flow, you'll get it
i think its the right sensitivity
everything else is user misunderstanding
What’s your time?
And that sounds amazing to speedrun
How do i become white traveler?
U need to collect all the symbols around the world of Journey. You can do it in multiple playthroughs. After u collect all of them there will be a place on the right side of chapter select where u will see some white clothes attached to a platform and floating. Go there and touch the cloth and you'll get the white robe.
Thank you very much!! 🙏 :3
Hello! If anyone is interested in buying journey i think it's the right time because it's 50% off on Epic games till 20 April
sub 28
while it's a sale, i don't recommend buying it there unless you don't want companions
there's no crossplay between steam and epic
and meeting companions in epic is likely to not work properly
you can meet them as evidenced by cmatw but you won't see anyone in game
it's a problem since 2021
official support for the game is dropped as of that year as well
Despite my fascination with speedruns, I've never considered the possibility of one existing for one of my favorite games
That's really cool! Sub 28 minutes is an impressive time :V
please check out the epic games faq on the journey wiki to learn more
it'd be impressive to get sub 27. 28 minutes is a normal time if you try hard enough
Well, I still consider it impressive, especially for a game with motion controls, haha. And thanks for the links, I'll definitely be checking those out 
does journey have cosmetics/ props too like sky? i mean ofc not as updated as sky but is there? r there any currencies or
journey is pure adventure (with friends if u have one) without things like sky?
the only 'cosmetic' is a white robe you can unlock that gives you flight energy that automatically recharges over time
besides that, no, journey doesn't have any cosmetics or currency
it's meant to be a standalone adventure experience, as minimal as possible, as artistic as possible, without any of these distractions
tysm
journey is a console game, the design paradigm is very different than a mobile first online game
it was also developed at a different world era, our lives were just getting started to be all mobile connected
decide to play flow on my psp. The controls are definitely satisfying, though it does feel like the play area is a bit large imo since I keep getting lost trying to find that icon that does one layer deeper 
It's interesting that the more you play, the less hostile aquatic creatures is going to attack the one you're controlling on
I also thank the tgc that even if the aquatic creature doesn't have any health it'll just boot back to the last layer so that I can get myself some breathing room
its smaller than the rest of the versions.
that depends on your playstyle
you could also go up and down anytime if you want
you can pause and look for the red food that goes deeper
its a nice little trick
Dude, playing Flower on the PS5
Holy cow
I know there probably isn't any higher quality but it look amazing
Holy smokes, that's pretty 
Just imagine how it would look on an 8K TV
I don't have one of those 😔
i think ps5 does 4k upscale? its unmodified 1080p60 btw
flow is 60 fps on ps3 but it hitches a lot
Flow runs fine on PS5.
fun fact: if you play flow for over a hour you'll have graphical glitching happening
yeah im just telling you that its the ps4 game
i said ps3
Yee yee
In real life or the game
Or both
the game gets graphical glitches
it doesnt happen on ps3, or vita (not sure about the latter)
yeah thats fine
some people leave it open for more
especially if you're speedrunning
Doesn't really seem like one of those games you wanna play for hours casually lol
you could be there exploring for hours if you wanted
Get lost in the goo
you can go up and down the layers
maybe challenge yourself into eating everything without losing health
there's two achievements that are practically impossible to get
carnivore and vegetarian
Who Play magic the gatering?
this channel is solely for discussing other tgc games (Flow, Flower, Journey and Cloud), other games should be discussed in DMs instead 
tgc = thatgamecompany, the maker of Sky 

Journey ancestors achievement!
Windmill in flower
I don't know when Hua and Traveler will be able to launch Android. I really like the games made by TGC

whats this games name
JOURNEY is my favorite game and I love, it's a total masterpiece.
I love some of the soundtracks especially apotheosis in the part when he ascends to the sky while 2 mechanic dragons monsters or beast are near him it's my favorite part and favorite part of the soundtrack apotheosis
you mean flower and journey? they're in ios and its unlikely they release it on android.
Apotheosis is my absolute favourite song of the Journey soundtrack. I love how it swells so epically as we ascend to the sky, and then mellows out to deep, resonant bells and gongs as we begin our final journey, only to begin playing an altered rendition of Nascence (my second fave) when we finally reach our destination and it sinks in that this is what it was all for. This is the end of our journey. It's an absolute experience, and I love it.
Yes me too
Are you talking about this part?
that's the vortex and the wayfarer is genderless
That's my favorite part of the game, ascending by a cloud vortex and also while the soundtrack of
apotheosis
There is a game named cloud from tgc?👀
There sure is :D
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cloud_(video_game)
Ohh woa but why isnt it like official on the tgc website? only available on windows if i saw right
Now i wanna try it haha
that's because it was a game project before tgc was made
Ahh thx!
download links are dead but you can use the largedownload ea link from web archive
Hullo! You should try asking in the #looking-for-group-live channel instead 
This is the channel to discuss TGC's non-Sky games, such as Journey, Flower, flOw, and Cloud.
aah, beat me to it wren 
ty!! 💗
sorry for asking here
💥💥
A lot of people do here, yeah.
not many play flow and flower through
Hello! I was curious what game is the image on the left?
As far as I know the game on the left is not made by TGC. But I'm not sure. Does anyone know if the left image is actually from the prototype games bundled with Journey Collector's Edition?
after a short research... the image on the left seems to be the character Oreko from the game .flow, a Yume Nikki fangame (and not from Flow, the TGC game)
the maker of the video and thumbnail seems to have messed up
pro tip: be careful of youtubers messing up their research and spreading misinformation
Yes, aha. That goes for any social media site (Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, etc) as it's very easy for misinformation or miscommunication to spread on such platforms.
Yes, it's Oreko. My guess is that someone did a websearch for 'flow' and didn't realise they had the wrong game, one called '.flow' or 'dotflow'. Which is hilarious.
Hello
just started playing journey
i can see how sky came from the game
theres a lot of the same features between both
im actually enjoying journey
now if only sky ran as well as journey does
To be fair, Sky was a mobile game from its inception. Journey was a console game. It also has a much more simple design in totality, and doesn't have to focus as much energy on managing servers, as well as all the cosmetics.
However, yes, I Do wish Sky ran as well as Journey. Journey runs very smoothly, and I've yet to have any issues with it.
Hello everyone
they're on different engines
Sky runs beautifully on PS5. I haven't beaten journey, only played a tiny bit, but a huge fan of Flow, Flower, and Sky ofc lol.
Pros of Journey: Beautiful graphics vs Sky's
Pros of Sky:COTL: I don't need to pull my PS out or my potato pc
In this house, setting up my sibling's playstation is like a tea ceremony, I have to wash and sterilize my hand and everything.
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Sky is a very resource hungry for a mobile game that's why it is extremely hard to optimise for the low end android devices, unlike Journey which is a PC/Console game first.
Journey runs very well on PS3 and PS5. A little (but not much) better than the Steam version. As was remarked above, it doesn't depend on online servers every time you enter a new area (only for conducting interaction with another player), so it runs better than Sky.
the pc version requires capping it to 60 fps to work properly
it's console first not pc
and it runs on a established engine from sony
Yeah all the 3 TGC games excluding Sky runs on Sony's Proprietary gaming engine called PhyreEngine. Sky is run on a custom made Engine by TGC.
unfortunately only the epic version has a server that been shut down, the rest depend on the corresponding service it's available on
the actual companion connection is peer to peer
Is Journey server based? Seems like it would be peer-to-peer to me, as that very much suits the multiplayer in the game, but that tends to be more laggy... Servers definitely would allow it to be more "seemless", as described...
don't mind me, thinking out loud, lol
please see my above message, its only server based for getting players together, the rest is all p2p
hi 
Hi!
My journey game freezes where my player and camera can’t move but everything else like the carpets keep flowing in the wind so in my experience sky runs better than journey
Is flow, flower, and cloud free?
What system are you playing on?
I’m looking at cloud and it looks a lot like sanctuary islands in sky 
iOS
Not too surprised about that one
it's a third party port, and support for it has stopped
Journey wasn't designed for mobile, it was designed and developed for Playstation
Sky is a mobile game developed for mobile first, and has an active and on-going beta on mobile devices (and only those - so the most bugs tend to crop up on switch and playstation)
no
only cloud is free
its for PC
download links are dead
flow is playstation exclusive
flower is better played on tilt controls either with a ds4 on pc or on playstation, ios tilt is weird because you're tilting the entire device rather than a controller
Yea yea!! I did some stuff in settings and journey runs a lot smoother but still not super smooth. I really wanna get journey on pc or at leas get a controller for my phone 
you need to get a validated made for iphone/ipad controller or it wont work
careful with clones
you can try playing on a newer ipad/iphone if you have
it might run better than your ipad
I know I need one made for iPhone…apple is very specific when it comes to its devices lol
I’m just gonna save up to play on pc

Random question for pains (spoiler ahead): ||What would you do or feel? if Journey crashed in the middle of the credit scene and you were about to get the Companion achievement?||
I'm fairly sure I already have that one 
It would be a bummer, but also an excuse to restart the game and play again
there's always a next journey
U can download Cloud through Uptodown.
i trust archive.org more than that site
I have been having a problem with vetals for a few days and I can no longer pay via the bank ?? is there a problem with the service??
I don't think this is the right channel to ask this
Oke
if anything, #questions-and-help should be the place for questions
though if this is a technical/payment issue, you need to contact support, since we're all just users here
and if this isn't sky related, you'd have to take this to your payment provider and not this server
When UG (Journey) looks like Days of Nature underwater °v°
#questions-and-help go to this channel and ask there.
I’m playing journey more and more and I’m correlating some levels with the realms in sky
Yep. Sky is like the spiritual successor to Journey so there is A LOT of similarities between the two.
Managed to get my Vita to play Flower and Flow. Can play them on the go now without having to buy them on mobile 
congratulations! only flower and journey are on ios through not flow
that's not iOS, that's a Playstation Vita
they said "without buying them on mobile"
||For where the winds blow the hardest||

activate windows 



and so my first journey...begins..
enjoy the game 
What a coincidence
I started journey yesterday too for the first time!
Ayyee nice!
Just completed my first journey. I got to do it with someone and I had a lot of fun ;-;
Awesome! Glad you had fun!
It can be an emotional experience, that's for sure.
This is from my last (still current) game of Journey. I love the Whale@ 🥰
I have played and watched Journey so many times but the music in the very last stage makes me cry every single time, I'm already tearing up thinking about it alfhaksjaj
This channel is for "other-tgc-games". Please post in #questions-and-help after reading it first.
Also wanted to share that the krill zone actually scared me xD I think it's cause of how the music was made, plus first time going through so it's all unknown for me xD
Also yes I'm using sky terms for this game, it just helps lol
sharing a couple pics of my journey last night
is this your first run? 👀
yeah it was my first playthrough and the other person seemed to know where to go so i followed them, lol till we got to "golden wasteland" section, then they looked just as confused as me so chances are, the golden wasteland area scared them too
but we made a great team, helped eachother out. It was really wholesome and whoever the person was, was really nice and waiting for me ;-;
*waited
That is the way Journey is meant to work. I'm glad it worked well for you.
Bro I saw it u even posted it on Facebook Few hours ago
Which game ?
The game is called Journey.
Where to get it
Actually my favorite soundtrack of Journey apotheosis is the Journey ascend
And it's my best favorite part of the game
When the traveler ascend spiritually to the clouds while 2 mechanical beasts are chasing him
steam, playstation store, epic store, dont recommend the latter
What platforms do you have ? For instance it's avialable for PS3, PS4 and PS5 but we don't know whether that's any use to you.
and also steam and epic store and ios
ps5 version is the ps4 one
My Graduation Cap, decorated after the most influential game of my life
its a earlier version, i suggest getting it on playstation 4
That is absolutely stunning! Hope you have(had?) a great graduation!! 
My graduation is tomorrow! Thank you 
I don’t have journey, is it true that the symbol on every players scarf is different??
Each Journey symbol is composed of four 3x3 grids, which would give 2^(4x9) ≈≈ 70 billion combinations. However, Journey symbols used in most places in the game are symmetrical, or contain copies of one of the quarters, possibly flipped or rotated, which gives fewer possibilities, more like 10 million. The copied quarter is strangely effective at making the symbols look 'nice' in some way.
However, Journey scarves just repeat the same symbol again and again. And I compared a screenshot from my game (attached to this post) with a random one on YouTube and we have the same symbol. So no, the scarf symbols are all the same. Sorry. But symbols scattered throughout the game vary.
If you're doing cosplay and want to look accurate, pay a great deal of attention to the brown, yellow and white colours, and to making every square has a proper point at each corner. No rounded corners. Also do your best to use a fabric which 'flaps' a bit like the scarf. The actual symbols, nobody is going to notice.
Dang, it would be rlly cool if everyone had their own, though not practical lol
This brought back memories. I think I will play Journey this evening before Sky. Hope there are some users left on PS3 (better graphics than PS4 version IMO) or it will be a very lonesome journey. 😕
I hope you have a pleasant journey! And wish you luck with finding a companion 
the scarf texture has its own set of symbols, there's a different set of symbols for the tower, another set for the player, another for the gravestones, the symbols rotate symbols. also the video you got is a public beta playthrough of journey (that's one of the history lessons) not retail.
the scarf texture is the same for everyone, the player symbol is different so you might be confused with that perhaps
Is journey not available for android?
Playstation, iOS, Epic (not recommended, server is apparently shut down), and I think Steam(?) are all its available on.
you got that right
Thank you
It was fun and I even activated all the story walls, or whatever they are called. 🙂
But I met no companion along my way. 😥
So sorry to hear that
There is a link to a Journey server in the pinned messages of this channel - maybe you can arrange a meet-up with another PS3 player there ! 
murals
Will journey ever be available on mobile?
it is on iOS, afaik
on Android, who knows
it's unlikely, not impossible, but there is no announcement in that regard so we can't say
Thank you. 🙂 I think the PS3 servers are still online. At least there was no error message that they couldn’t be reached and no update patch to delete them from the code.
I assume there are just very few people left on PS3 to play it.
Edit: I misunderstood you. You were talking about a Discord server. Thank you, just registered there. 👍
I started my 2nd journey last night, I wanna explore more slowly. Iiii started falling asleep at my desk cause I was exhausted xD so ill try to continue that at some point
cool
Hi 👋
Please please get sleep when you can. Journey will still be there.
dw i went to sleep lol
is it bad that im just calling the stuff in journey what they'd be called in sky? example, the symbols, im calling winglights, and where the bad guardians are, calling em krills and the area "golden wasteland" xD oh and area that looks like vault, im calling it that. I feel so bad but it helps me a little lol
no, but it's a good idea to learn the correct naming.
doing my 2nd journey solo and lol just arrived to underground realm, ngl, am a little scared considering im by myself this time
so i found a "moff" and had to afk for a minute cause my mom lost her phone charger, got back, and they're gone ;-;
Is Minecraft a tgc game
How to download 'flow' on a computer
Pretty sure Flow is only on PlayStation
It's on steam on pc
thank you
I wanna explore the underground realm more throughly, but not only the guardians/krills scare me, but the way they did the music for it really brings this tense as heckeroni feeling that makes me wanna leave the place pronto
You'll get used to guardians like you get used to krills xD
Once you know their flight pattern, you could explore more freely as long as you're aware of your surroundings.
But man the first time you noticed a shadow moving in the dark, that was an awesome introduction to the warmachines.

hello
tfw u play journey again for the first time in like a decade and it still looks so GORGEOUS 😭 like even more compared to Sky
getting used to the different flying mechanics took a hot minute though lol
There will always be better graphics performance and quality, but good art direction lasts forever
Journey showed that you don't need to max out the latest realistic graphics to make a beautiful game
imo journey's graphics look nicer and more polished than Sky even. i know thats probably because it's a smaller game so they could dedicate more hardware to the sand and cloth physics but still
i spent awhile just kicking the sand around in different ways lol
for Journey the devs also spent a long time working on and polishing the concept, design and look of the game to really make it shine in its minimalistic artistry
Sky is a bit more playful, while also designed to run on lower performance hardware
for Journey, the devs knew they had to make it work for PS3, which is not the newest hardware anymore, but was a powerhouse at its time
Sky is designed for mobile devices first, so they can't go all out with lighting and effects like the sand
ya i know :0
Honestly the music for the guardians area is really good. It really brings that tense feeling that you're not in a safe place
there's a earlier version/demo available for pc written in adobe flash
Ohhh I didn’t know that
Hello chat, today I buyed flower and flow on my ps4 and I decided to start flower first because it was thrown out before flow did so I played flower first and guess what. I started to love it's mechanic of flying the petals within the wind, it started to be one of my favorite games TGC sure is the master of these amazing and beautiful games. Click down if you love flower and if it's you favorite game.
Calculating the needed amount of sneep snorp for #other-tgc-games... 
Using emulators is against the Sky TOS, @cosmic lily. Please don’t use or discuss emulators here.
bought*
it's a therapeutic game, best played with the motion controls which is only possible on playstation and pc with a dualshock 4. i used to speedrun flower but it stopped working on my main computer for strange reasons
oh and its a game that is motion sickness sensitive
im not affected of course but i heard about that
The mechanic motion control is so great
It captures you
When you play it at first time
In my case it's the first time I play it
And flow too
Well I haven't start to play flow yet
But when I end flower , then i'll play flow
i recently read a steam review about Journey. simply but powerful descript how i feel about Journey:
"hello, stranger.
goodbye, friend."
I played Journey and I LOVE IT SO MUCH
Journey the #1 Masterpiece of ThatGameCompany
The Soundtrack Is very strong
And It has the intense scene climax that I considere my favorite part of the game
The traveler's spiritual ascend
My favorite part of Journey is every part
Apotheosis: Journey ascend
I have Road of Trials too like my favorite soundtrack of Journey
Soundtrack is very strong specially when you use special headphones
And a Dolby sorround
I N T E N S E
I also played Abzû that is not an actual TGC game but it's like Journey but Abzû is from Giant Squid.
@glass needle, Abzû is a game made by Giant Squid Studios, not TGC! There are many great games out there but please keep discussion in this channel about other TGC games (Cloud, Flow, Flower and Journey!) 
Oh sorry
don't mind skybot
I have yet to play that game, but the soundtrack is beautiful
Austin Wintory is a master at what he does
i think the soul of Journey is the random co-op part. i am so happy that i can finally hug the companion in sky cotl.
so i bought the starter cape at the very frist to show how i LOVE journey
saaame
How it feels to play Journey on PS5 in a big tv with HDR 4K with Special headphones of Virtual stereo sorrounding sound with Dolby.
I N T E N S E
Not that I have ps5 I actually play Journey on ps4
I have ps4
But imagine to have all of that
so i am willing to gift my beloved friend in Sky any iap if he want just bc i cannot do that in Journey
i want to thank some great companions i met in Journey so much
The most powerful way of saying thank you to a treasured Journey companion is by drawing them them a heart in the snow at the start of the final walk into the light.
Brought a lump to my throat the first time it was done for me
I really wanted to do this for someone but they just rushed ahead. I was disappointed but perhaps they needed to rush off and do something in real life.

Playing Journey on mobile makes me feel like crying, it made me realize how alone i am all this time 😅
💀
Same
Sometimes I doubt the statement “flower is the most peaceful game ever”
i dont know. after drawing so many heart on there, i feel the most powerful way to thank the journey may be is to play with full heart with companion along the way. and writing a ps msg to them after that journey. ~~ ( ps3 can, not sure if curren ps4/5 can )~~
one time i even recieve a ps msg from one companion saying he hope he help me unlock trophy i havt unlock yet.

PS4 can. I like to draw hearts because PS privacy settings often prevent me from sending a message. But I do both where possible.
Does anyone know where the flower and flow references are in journey?
been a while since i played it, but the flower is in one of the deserts (the pink desert, iirc) and the flow reference is the tower
if you need help with where exactly they can be found, you might need to check a guide
For the Flower in the desert, watch out for a meteor early on in that map, follow it to where it lands, then follow the trail of pebbles.. For the Flow, wait until the room is full of water, then swim all the way back up and down the central column, looking at what is inside it at every level.
Hey, doesn't the trial gate sculpture resemble somewhat of that in journey?
well this does 🥲
Yes

Guardians: Buffed krills
Krills: nerfed guardians
guardians be like : "lemme take pretty much everything u got there"
Krills: I am legally blind
ah! you snapped a picture.. oh no i need to run away
(krill trick reference)
The bad thing is U can't hide once spotted


guardians would eat u up even if u 're already dead i would assume
At least the krills are kind enough to ignore, half dead grey skids
Me
thinking I can be friends with the
.
Me now : fighting for my life

Krills are animals. Guardians are like tanks with a brain inside. You should be more scared of guardians. Except that they were made so long ago that now many of them are broken.
Yes
Guardians be like "Search and Destroy" 
guardians in Journey just do their guard duty. iirc, after 3 times attack, their attack will stop. its the krill who will eat all them can eat.
btw. ||i wonder if players can do the multi task mode trick to avoid guardian attack in Journey on iOS like sky cotl. ||
Afraid not. The only time I'm seen an escape was from a 'fancy flyer' who boosted upwards faster than the WM could go
The only times I've escaped from guardians were times when some part of the scenery got in the way of its dive, And they were fortunate accidents, not things I was planning.
They normally go right through any scenery. Which is why it's useless trying to hide. Maybe it was focused on your companion
the attacks stop after it happening once
hello i want to ask a little bit my account has two strange links how to delete them nin and huawei
I still have gmail and facebook accounts
I just played journey omg its so pretty!!

#questions-and-help, not here as this is for discussion of the previous tgc games
If TGC releases another game after Sky... I wonder if there will be yet another mountain with a light shooting out of its summit? 
honestly, if TGC made another game, I think they need to come up with something a bit more unique and new
Sky works, because it's selling point is basically "Journey, but now it's an MMO"
they might work with similar overall themes of Flower/Journey/Sky (the playful-to-disastrous-to-rebirth) because that works, but they would need to find some great gameplay and visuals to make the game stand out among many artistic indie games that have been inspired by Journey's success since, and their own games
Happy 17 years of TGC! These games are amazing!

I hope the fire oracle returns at the end of the month
I've been waiting for over a year and I'm so depressed


I'm new here. How can I get the qualification?
welcome to the discord!
#beta-discussion would be the place to ask about beta invites
this channel is for other games made by TGC 
I hope there are more test places for our players.

This is the channel for the non-Sky games from the developer. Please head to #general-sky-discussion to chat about Sky 🙏
Playing journey rn again, i love the emptiness n vastness of those worlds. (N finally got white robe😀)
It's really interesting playing journey after playing through sky, and I note to myself constantly that journey came first, so it's not based on sky, sky is based on journey. If that makes sense
But omg finding things in journey that I've seen in sky....I feel like I've unlocked more lore
How do u like it? And what do u think bout journey thru the sky player googles/pov*?
I played journey first, then after years came sky
So for me sky is always marked as journey s lil sibling
Less mature n more ...needy?
Hi I'm late but it's interesting, I love finding details that remind me of sky
I got zero brain cells atm so aaaa
Same
anyone thought of speedrunning flower and flow?
Ohhhhh. Never thought bout it.
how was your experience?
Flow has far too many random movements to make it worth speedrunning. Too much luck or unluck involved.
Speedrunning Flower just feels wrong. It would be possible, but Flower is all about expansive gestures and wide curves. Someone playing Flower should not be in the mood to speedrun it.
that's what makes it interesting, you learn to optimize the movement and go straight to the goal of going a layer down, there's enough rng for it to be speedrunnable
true but also its very easy to speedrun, they give you leeway with the flowers requirements enabling skips to be made
Yeah. U can speed run it. But doesn't it lose its charm?
To enjoy the movement n the music
Hi, I want a friend to play with me. I really feel lonely. Who wants us to become friends. It's my pleasure to become someone's friend.
:^) For some reason I'm in a Journey mood
the traveller is so cute 
What game is this?
Journey
i just did my first journey and it was super pixelated but i saw screenshots of people with super crisp resolution can i do anything about that 🥲
you might need to change the screen resolution in options. make sure it's set to your desktop resolution if playing fullscreen
ohh i'm playing on my phone
unfortunately there's not much you can do then, lacking information about your phone, which iphone it is, etc
maybe it's just too small and the screen isn't retina
its an iphone xr so kind of old but its extremly bad quality even for an older phone
there's your problem, that's a budget iphone unfortunately
the "bad" quality is intentional
oh man thats too bad, the game looks beautiful. everything else has awesome resolution :((
do you use large size of the interface?
i dont know if that affects anything
try checking the rt setting
in settings -> journey
the xr cheaps out in the screen
i dont remember about the processor
sorry then, that's how it is on your device, unfortunately there's no support nor updates for the game. just checking, if you have flower does it have the same problem?
Does journey will be added to the play store ??? T.T
It's not a TGC game, it's made by Giant Squid
Ah okey okey mb thx for the information😊
Thank you!^^
I was just playing with someone in journey that showed me everything but when we got to the last part to skip the cutscene i think, my game glitched? 😭 the screen at first was white but i just continued going forward then it turned black. i can hear myself but can’t see anything
it looks like i’m just gonna have to restart the game. i wanted to friend them too 💔
I think you should restart your device. I had it a year ago.
i ended up just exiting out of the game 🫠 also was on playstation
Wooow I didn't know this about Journey... Crazy!
The stress of the project led to the feeling there was not enough time or money to complete everything the team wished to, which added to the stress and caused arguments about the design of the game. The developers ended up reducing the overtime they spent on the project to avoid burning out, though it meant further delays and risked the company running out of money as the game neared completion. In a speech at the 16th annual D.I.C.E. Awards in 2013, Chen admitted the company had indeed been driven to bankruptcy in the final months of development and that some of the developers had gone unpaid at the time
That explains why some people left/split.
nah that's mainly for another reason iirc
sounds like you two went past the trigger and continued north which has the blackness, you should've walked back and find the trigger
re: the sword of the sea announcement, glad to see that giant squid took the rly good sparkly sand physics in the divorce
ahh good to know in case it happens again lol 👍
New Journey spin-off in a nutshell.
Maybe slightly off-topic, but doesn’t that…run into legal issues? Name-dropping Journey in your trailer to imply it was made by your studio when it was actually made by a team at a studio you used to work at? Would not be thrilled if I were TGC 🤷♂️
the trailer explicitly said it was from the artist, not the studio
and considering that's on the artist's resume, it's not factually wrong
if that's good and right to use for another company's advertising basically, i'm not sure
idk what the issue is? The trailer says its made by the artist that directed the art for journey, which is a fact. Matt Nava left tgc after making journey look gorgeous-- and just because he has his own game studio now doesnt mean he shouldnt be able to take credit for his past work
heck, if i was responsible for a large part of what made an extremely impactful game so popular, i'd be namedropping it all over my resume too 
That’s all fair! I think for me the thing was that the way it was introduced on this thread was as a new TGC game, and many of the comments on the version of the trailer I saw are similarly confused. I guess that felt a bit…deliberate? Nava also doesn’t have credit as director, producer, designer, or programmer of Journey, and is one of two artists given credit. To describe himself as “the visionary artist behind Journey”, and then to list the other two games that his studio DID produce just seemed a bit disingenuous when it’s two entirely different teams working on the games- these are, at the end of the day, separate studios. Just my two cents though!
Nava was the art director of all three games listed so I think that's fair enough. It's also followed by "Giant Squid presents" some seconds later. Seems fine to me
to get back on topic tho, JOURNEY HAND PAINTED LIGHTMAP?????
https://twitter.com/matt_nava/status/1503152810078052355?s=20
😱 thats insane
bruh what
as someone who tried to get very sharp cartoony shadows in Unreal before, I understand that the engine's built-in shadows wouldn't have looked that well
but to go that length to make it look better... that's mad
deep respect
it’s on sale again if you haven’t bought it yet 
sorry for the ping i saw the notification and remembered our conversation 
never too late to buy it again
Journey certainly deserves it
Flow and Flower also deserve it
is flow and cloud on ios?
I did exactly the same thing 
please, help!!😭
what should I do? this problem has been going on for over 2 months.
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This channel is only for discussing other games made by TGC! So any questions you have about Sky should be posted in #questions-and-help instead 
ty!
no they are not, flow is on PS3, PS4, PSvita and PC and cloud is only on windows
Hi! Where is it available? I can't find it on steam
its not on steam
you could get it from here http://www.jenovachen.com/flowingames/cloud.htm im not sure if it still works or here https://archive.org/details/cloudinstall
Oh okay, thanks!
the download links themselves are archived, i suggest the ea largedownloads url
flow for pc is a earlier version of flow, it was made in flash and only has two campaigns
I think I played it on armor games for a hot minute
..ah, Armor Games.. I miss flash 

Flashpoint. Got to play some of me beloveds, like Endevour and Creeper World.
