📋︱feedback-discussion

[last hazel]

Yw Steve

[stoic elm]

Wtf did they do with intels again! Where are my plasma crates 🤬 This is after removing all 8 help ones (used to be just 4) and 1 finished rescue and explore intel. Used to have 4-6 infected intels for plasma crates, now its down to 2. And its been 2 for me since after that update. At first, I thought I probably just didn't noticed them.

[stable cosmos]

You should get the crates when someone else does your intel. Which WOULD be fine but you are relying on someone else to do something which is not particularly friendly

[nova jetty]

I'm not sure what is happening. have you tried reloading ? If this doesn't work I would put ticket in to customer service.

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/806532381141368872/1236464253234319460/TT_How_to_Access_C.png?ex=6649e6d2&is=66489552&hm=ce0f0a9ccbab9eadc26dd463691f4601558f20589683225ee10b7a04d31030bc&

You can also add it to #🐞︱bug-reporting-bot so we can see how many are effected

[stable cosmos]

This is pretty recent. Ally help is taking precedence over personal intel. Doesn't work if you want to do your own and you have to rely on the activity of teammates

[nova jetty]

I agree , not everyone is on or even bothers with intel. It is at least cheaper than regular intel but I see no other benefits.

[stable cosmos]

You get extra stuff. The problem is that you have to rely on other people. If its a casual alliance or timezones come into it, thats a lit of intel you miss out on which makes a huge difference f2p. The new changes in what you see hinders more than helps

[misty pewter]

So if you are in an active alliance, the number of plasma crates you get shouldn’t change?

[frosty sparrow]

It shouldn’t. Mine actually went up compared to my usual intel.

[stable cosmos]

Assuming other people do your intel assists yes. But its pretty obscured and its possible we're losing out because gestures at game history

[misty pewter]

Totally understand 😂

[vale yoke]

Ah the good old gestures at game history

[vale yoke]

Oh this is bad bad... Thanks Erazor for this report
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

@merry scroll sorry to tag you, but did you get any sort of direction about this Intel ally help? We don't get nearly what we're supposed to and it's already causing problems. This is really going to have a major negative effect for players and I don't think the developers really considered the implications.
Yes, we want to help our allies. But we also want to get the rewards we're supposed to.
If you find yourself passing anything along, could you include that please?

[stable cosmos]

I still get chests if someone else does my intel. But if they don't do my intel i cannot see it to do so myself. I am also definitely getting less than my normal quantity of chests per day.

[tame oxide]

But we only get the rewards from Intel if they are done from alliance help, we don't get the rewards from mails anymore so less rewards overall 🙁

[humble spear]

I still get the rewards if my allies help on me but they are going to my backpack directly. I’m happy with this feature it is save me a lot of time. So much easier to finish daily intel, and it is also eats less stamina.

[stable cosmos]

It saves time and stamina, but it looks like its doing so at the expense of rewards. I can see i still get chests, but if my intel doesn't spawn i have no way of making my teammates do it, and they may not do it before the 16 hour window is up so i miss out

[white turret]

GG @prime root

[tame oxide]

We have Travis event on
How many rucksacks you get now from Intel?
Those came through mail now nothing with the help from allies not even the rss from killing Intel 🙁
No rucksacks no extra stamina either

[humble spear]

Yep you are right there is no rucksack and there is no energy cells for trap.

[tame oxide]

In other words they tooked rewards from us doing intel 😡😡😡

[rapid marlin]

And no plasmacrates either

[knotty storm]

Too much free stuff for us...😒😒😒😒😒

[jolly harness]

Only if you use the quick button

[humble spear]

There is no issue with crates

[jolly harness]

You still get the same amount as before. Just a lot more " helps " which makes you don't have to do intels yourself

[vestal turret]

That’s my understanding too. Regarding the issue with Travis, there is a feedback here for it #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[knotty storm]

I usually get 5-6 plasma crates at each batch of intels, 4-5 batteries for trap, and with Travis event 4-5 rucksacks... Now i got 2 plasma crates, no batteries and no rucksacks...

[stable cosmos]

You only get these if someone actually helps out within the intel window. If they do not and your intel expires you miss out

[tame oxide]

No we don't
We don't get to do Intel it's done through help by allies and we only get rewards from intel
When we were doing it we also got mail with rewards such as Travis rucksacks and batteries for trap and some rss now we don't get these

[rapid marlin]

I didn't miss out any intel. Got no batts or backpacks and also just 2 crates.

I like the fact intel is done in seconds, i wouldn't want to change that. But i would appreciate if we still get the rewards like before

[vestal turret]

When you log into your intel screen, if you have an active alliance you should see that your intel has been completed like below because your alliance has helped you. These are the source of your plasma crates.

Once collected, the only thing left is your Dino intel (if you have) and the ability to group help your alliance in return.

I like it, but I do think it’s a bit of a cheat for those collecting Travis rucksacks

[knotty storm]

Yes, but if the alliance helps, we'll get no batteries or Travis backpacks...

They won't get those either

[vestal turret]

Yeah it’s nit good in that regard. Completely agree

There’s a feedback here for it #📋︱feedback-reporting message to upvote

[knotty storm]

How many times we told the devs to test their new releases and "improvements" or "optimizations"? They won't do even basic testing... We've been griping about it for years, honestly I'm getting tired of this 💩

And when i hear, or read that they listen to our feedback I'm getting the impression that they're just mocking us...

[marble grove]

@rain reef this is what I mean 🤣

[rain reef]

amen 🤣

[hollow zinc]

So I did a report and the answer is, as usual, all is completely fine and normal and they will give absolutely NO HELP despite screwing completely.

[marble grove]

So why don't they change these sentinel frags to just a sentinel, won 2 of these frags but will never see them again after this event so basically pointless rewards? 🤣

[gloomy spear]

Because these aholes want you to think like this: Oh boy , I got 2 frags. Now because of FOMO or other mind trick, I have to buy the rest so I don't miss out. The game is full of this kind of crap.

[stable cosmos]

Its become very easy to ignore. In addition, 2 fragments out of 20 isn't fomo worthy. Gimme 19 and maybe that last one is worth it. 2 looks unachievable still so ehy bother

[gloomy spear]

Well, the devs did achieved something with all the popups with great deals thrown in out faces all the time. I've become highly immune to this kind of thing. I usually just close them as fast as I can.

And ignore all other kind of FOMO inducing mechanics.

The mobile game industry needs to be highly regulated. Its wild wild west in terms of scamming people left and right.

[lucid yew]

Did the gen 3 tempest add anything new, or is it just the whale version of gen 2?

[midnight aspen]

Hey Hartsa, personally havent tried them but some of the PTR folks already did, you can check out their videos. ? Try this one #🔅︱content_creator_videos message

[lucid yew]

That answered it well. Nothing new. Hope they will make gen 3 reforge solutions and skill reforges at least more obtainable for f2p

[boreal gate]

will resonate vouchers event ever come back?!

[austere pewter]

Loving the intel improvement first update liked for awhile!

[midnight aspen]

Hello, we are not sure as well. I think this was previously feedbacked too. I still have resonate vouchers stucked as well 😦

[boreal gate]

i kept waiting after forgetting to exchange them last time and i have lik 6k vouchers stuck now

[midnight aspen]

wow.

6k is a lottt

[boreal gate]

there was no notice or warning that it was going to stop right?

[midnight aspen]

not that i know off. it just ended and never came back.

[stable cosmos]

They took it away for RE. Then kept it away for turtles. Now we're meant to forget about it so they can ignore it, and all the money that was spent is just a bonus they have.

No need for rendering the services it paid for...

[rapid marlin]

Its not including missing out cells. And there is no other opportunity to get them. Plasma u have least other sources left

[grim steppe]

I still dont have ...

[lime zealot]

Happens if internet is slow and update not fully loaded
Why did they draw even nipples though?.... Or they taking assets from some porn game

[grim steppe]

Wtf idk but didn't saw nipples . Just now😂

Its only one bug what I want

[vale yoke]

We don't need nips, we need our Intel rewards corrected.

No rucksacks or cells, not even to my backpack. But hey, I've got biocaps and rss...

[pallid willow]

No travis backpack? I hate this helps trash

[vale yoke]

I like the idea

[pallid willow]

I hate it lol

Is just more scam to give us less stuff we need

[vale yoke]

But they didn't need to touch our rewards like that. If I help an ally or an ally helps me, we both deserve to be awarded as if we did our own work, because families help each other. While we're still gonna help each other, as evidenced by my video, the reduction of rewards makes the feature even more unattractive and people will start to get tired of being helped.

Once again, another feature which will slowly become obsolete as less and less people make use of it, because they need to prioritize their in-game rewards

But if they adjusted the rewards back to what people would logically be earning whether they were a helper or did their own work, then people would probably be like "great feature, one of the few smart things you've done"

We are sparse with our compliments to the devs, for this reason. They don't give us anything without a caveat, a catch, or a downside

[slow thicket]

Same Intel's are so much a waste of time (mostly explorers), if they want to help to do it quicker, ok, but if they remove some rewards, no.

[vale yoke]

Exactly, Seth. So many of us admittedly skip certain Intel, and the helps make that so much easier. But the rewards are not okay, and they need to be adjusted

Really great feedback from Erazor about this in #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[slow thicket]

Explorers it's just one minute (at speed 3 and auto) that u do nothing and u can't do anything else cause ur stick in it.

[slow thicket]

I didn't saw it and I just upvoted it 👍

[vale yoke]

Thanks Seth, I passed it to my state last night too to get more attention.

[formal elk]

I had to spend 200 DICE!!! to fix up buildings before I could think of upgrading ....what kind of event do you run that costs the player more money after they have paid money to play with benefits that are harming them.....and then you send me 20 plasma as compensation...you insult me and make me laugh in disbelief

[humble spear]

Exactly 🥲

[vale yoke]

That sounds like SoS Things

Pay money, spend time, two steps ahead three steps back, put your left foot in, take your left foot out, put your left foot in and shake it all about.

[stable cosmos]

Sod that event. Just using all my dice on the last day. I'll get nothing out of it but at least its not stressful

[vale yoke]

I'm just using what I get free and conserving like 5 - 10 rolls every stage for the last day

Yay for level 2 buildings and inexpensive repairs

My f2p Posty managed to get every single piece of the Standard Oceans Grasp collection just from dice in Stage 1, so it ain't all bad.

Well, special boxes, but I needed dice to get them

[jagged wigeon]

In-game chat is really laggy. And that egg thing completely gets in the way, especially if you just want to send an emoji. Please stop breaking things that worked ok before 😩

[silent pike]

i found a feedback report regarding the golden egg button you might want to upvote https://discordapp.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606/1265631755742875760
For the chat being laggy you might want to submit a feedback report here #📋︱feedback-reporting using the format pinned in that channel

[lucid yew]

buy a truckload of shields and log in every hour to restock, ouch. Still, fortune tycoon is the best event ever for f2p. Soo many pearls

[fallow lodge]

things worked before?😅 yeah i do agree many things in this update shouldnt of hit live....i may have to start buying bug spray. i want my plasma intel back btw devs😉 😉

[vale yoke]

Heyyyyy Bolton, would you be interested in supporting the cause with an upvote? If so, just click what I replied to. If not, maybe we can get a group rate on the Orkin Man 😉

[unreal lichen]

I though the plasma Intels are remaining. The only difference is that you don't have to do it yourself if your alliance member help you. By helping each other, you use less stamina to complete intels and get extra reward.

[vale yoke]

I've now uploaded two videos in the last... Idk 13 hours here? Show me where the extra rewards are, because they aren't in my backpacks. Two different accounts, two different batches of Intel, and still reduced plasma rewards, no rucksacks, but hey - those biocaps.
If that's supposed to be an extra reward, just give me my plasma and rucksacks instead.

It's a ridiculous shill

They need to stop doing things like this. If they can't generate a decent enough game or series of engaging events to account for revenue, that's on them. They don't need to mess with our BASIC GAME FUNCTIONS to generate shifty revenue off the backend and act like we won't notice.

They have trained us to see through them, better than they have trained ANY of their interns who they cycle in and out of the development team.

[marble grove]

The bigger players are better opponents, can rob all their cash they saving 🤣

[vale yoke]

If they're seeing that people aren't paying into Plasma 15 and they're trying to generate revenue by reducing the amount of plasma available in other places, then maybe they should think about adjusting their scheduled releases to something slower and more manageable. Then they could at least have time to spin the revolving door a bit on the dev team and get a few brains in who knows how to code.

[slow thicket]

Yes still but very lower. Tomorrow on my main, 2 crates of plasma instead of 13 usually. On one session of Intel's...

[marble grove]

Not even going for p15 as p14 hq is nicer 🤣

[vale yoke]

Also, the closer it gets to one year without word on my dev chat, the louder I'ma get. Just a fair heads up.

[vale yoke]

I've been playing the long game for four years. Really enjoying plasma 9 for now.

If they wanted me to buy more stuff and actually push, they probably should have made a better game

[marble grove]

I kept up with plasma so I wouldn't get easily zeroed... but now even plasma building+ research doesn't even stop that 🤣

[vale yoke]

I'm not worried about being zeroed. They're just troops; they can be healed, enlisted, rebuilt. It's annoying, sure, but it's a game.

Even if I had a ton of money into it, they're just troops.

[marble grove]

If you wish to play the game, you need troops 🤣 5 minutes unshielded in hive during svs... no more playing svs 🤣

Same with rr etc

[vale yoke]

I tend to intentionally suicide during SvS. Multiple times.

And Raid is no issue for me. Burn all my 3.5m troops

Have fun with it

I'm gonna annoy you while you do

[marble grove]

Killing your own troops 100k at a time, is a lot different to 2m (full hospital + 700k dead) in one hit 🤣

[vale yoke]

And it doesn't phase me

I've taken full hits to the face and lost 2m

Big deal

And?

[marble grove]

Guessing sat there all day tapping is your favourite past time

[vale yoke]

They're just troops. They're not even real. Why should I be pressed about something that's replaceable?

I just spent weeks in enlistment intentionally not doing anything to rush it, so really, I'm not concerned lol

[marble grove]

By sounds of it then, you don't take part in many events

[vale yoke]

I take part in as many as possible, I'm the R5

😉

[marble grove]

Then you should know you need troops to participate

[vale yoke]

I didn't say I don't have troops

Lol

I have troops, I just don't care if they're zeroed

It doesn't bother me

[marble grove]

Go on tell me you get zeroed before svs starts and then you still participate 🤣

[vale yoke]

I do but okay lol

@astral stratus had four SvS with me

[marble grove]

Tell me how you participate with 0 troops then

[vale yoke]

Sorry for the tag, but Froggy doesn't believe I willfully get zeroed

[marble grove]

Tapping?

[vale yoke]

Ability

And muh backpack

[marble grove]

You have 0 ability with 0 troops, you are there for moral support

And if you heal troops then go to red, you get burnt even easier again and again

[vale yoke]

Moral support Liannin, that's what I do

[marble grove]

Love perma notifications for nothing

[vale yoke]

Dude that's beyond frustrating. That and the reoccurring red dot to notify us of the boost offers

[astral stratus]

Can confirm! And she giggles while

[vale yoke]

With pet names

I've even been known to change my name in Raid to talk with the other team lol

"take WTC1"
"Wut hpnned?"
"Ouch"

"hey that hurts"

I might change my name to Mobile Bonfire for this one, idk

[vivid hawk]

yup.....

🤣

[vernal moss]

What irks me is that the aircraft part holds the same % as the resources, yet you can clearly see the invisible issue there in the % information given to us.

Regarding these awful tricks please do share your thoughts about it in #📋︱feedback-reporting and please make sure to bring up anything you want improved, fixed, following the #📋︱feedback-how-to format.

[slow thicket]

nice rss

[austere pewter]

Do you bave any of things you can collect uncollected in the archive?

[frosty sparrow]

Want to explain a bit more?

[robust bramble]

Sorry do you mean you need help for the bug report bot?

[hollow zinc]

It's fine I got help.

[tame ridge]

Hi, with the auto-completion of Intel missions it is no longer possible to accumulate batteries for the trap by not producing reports, can you add them directly to the mission rewards? it could become a big problem

[forest kiln]

If they on top of this new intel changes move that chief stamina delivery into backpack, like it was in the beginning in old states, it will solve the issue probably. Because in the end of day, I'm, for example, have 278 stamina... and nothing to spend for... well, except obvious ... kill zombies to get Travis backpacks.

[pallid willow]

That would be beautiful

[forest kiln]

But for me it's their best new feature so far 🤣 I didnt know what to do in the morning, then I finished intel in 5 sec, that 5 rallies and Throwdown in 15 min.

[pallid willow]

I think im one of the few peeps that enjoyed doing intel 🥲

[austere pewter]

I was trying to help him not myself. I was asking if all his archive been collected.

[rocky otter]

this quick help for intel is good idea but we cant get cell for trap. there is any feedback about it ?

[vernal moss]

Hi chief, this is quite the issue. Since i'm yet to update i'm personally unaware of this; have you checked in the trap screen that you're not accumulating any? if not I'd encourage you to report this to CS and bring it up as a bug in #🐞︱bug-reporting-bot

[vernal moss]

I believe if you transfer to another old state you can obtain these boxes again, however some states were given the short straw and given direct stamina and it's a vicious argument to have against a state during SvS that get these boxes into their inventory. Have you considered shedding some light on this in #📋︱feedback-reporting at all?

[vernal moss]

Give Michelle 5 times more intel but no extra stamina notes down ||Kidding!||

[vernal moss]

I'd encourage you to get a report sent to CS, they need some pestering about this mistake but if you'd like you're welcome to bring up some feedback about it. A previous player just recently mentioned the same thing and guided them to the #🐞︱bug-reporting-bot as it seems to be a bug ||and not a feature yet ||

[forest kiln]

O , nooo. 🤣 Ok, I went thru few of my accounts. On all of them I had excess of stamina. It was around 280 on all accounts. So, it will be really good to get this chief stamina delivery directly to backpack and not in open. But right now I just went to kill zombies around and get some travis bags.

[fallow lodge]

im more bothered you get 4 plasma intel now which each only gives 1 plasma, what happened to the x2 x3 plasma in intel

is this a norm for every one? game wide bs from the devs. whats up people aint buying enough plasma😅

[hollow zinc]

It's funny people start to comain about megaphone. But they don't care isn't it? The simple fact you can't report a message did with a megaphone show you can insult people as long a you use biocaps.

[long pendant]

Hi is anyone in your state using megaphone to bully people? if so you can take screenshot of chat and report it to customer support or to in game lmod here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1154385061978841148

[forest kiln]

Why? 🙄 Last SvS I reported some mor*n twice.

Well, his 2 accounts

[strong grove]

If you are a f2p or mid spender, it is wise not to transfer to whale state.

[winter canyon]

[vale yoke]

[stable cosmos]

If harrassment via megaphone was actionable then theres a person who would be perma muted from it and hes not

CS are a waste of space now

[vale yoke]

Has anyone checked on Ivar?

I mean without asking Gyno

He'll just tell you the same thing over and over again

There comes a point with things and people in this game where it becomes part of our lore, and Gyno Larva is definitely part of the lore lol

[opaque spear]

Have you taken a screenshot and sent it to CS or an ingame LMOD in #🚨︱contact_an_lmod ?

[stable cosmos]

If that worked it wouldn't have been a problem in the first place. He'd have lost microphone ability for months before i ever experienced it

[opaque spear]

Well, all I can advise is to take an ss and send to CS or an LMOD

[white turret]

Hello people

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[fallow lodge]

putrid tide wont start again🤨

[plush bronze]

Bring back "Power Play" !

[fallow lodge]

? we still have

[plush bronze]

after state merge we dont have it 😕

[fallow lodge]

after state merge as i recall right some events stop for abit to give people time to sort all the state stuff out. any other events missing?

my last merge was 2 years back so my heads fuzzy on this

[plush bronze]

lets hope its that thing, btw putrid tide is working fine

[white turret]

Will prob be back next week.

[fallow lodge]

yeah mine is now

[stable cosmos]

Putrid tide broken again. You had it fixed. Its been a week. How'dyou bust it again? Thats all rhetorical. Never known such an inept company.

[willow basin]

I would really like my Intel back. I like collecting Travis packs, dang it 😮‍💨

[fallow lodge]

yeah whats going on 4 single plasma each intel. what happened to the x2 and x3 crates . so 3 intel a day turns in to 12 plasma. revenue must be down on plasma packs

[balmy dome]

So much lag in game during trap i had it yesterday and i couldn't even join rallies can you please at least fix it ?

[tidal apex]

Since they introduced new "help all" button 80-90% of my intel is just help allies 🤣

I wonder if they have it same way, maybe soon we will all be helping eachother do help ally tasks because there will be nothing else

[stable cosmos]

I genuinely don't care for it. Dailies were fine. This is their solution to not enough stamina and its not even close to what we wanted.

Players: more stamina please, or raise the cap.
Devs: heres a new complex system that costs less but you miss out on prizes

[stable anvil]

WOW what special algorithm do the devs have that magically drop state overall points for seasonal coins from 1.5 mil to 900k so suddenly . Now they suddenly answer back when the event is about to be over and many people all across the state have push for those mileage and yet the coins and jackpot winning were slim and now all the prize pool will be recycled. Any mods have anything to say

[stable cosmos]

That really reads like ai based on prior ticket closures

[karmic widget]

Funny! That’s exact message I got back to, word for word! And wasn’t from Nancy I don’t think 😂😆

[pallid willow]

It is, i don’t do 2-3 intels and all i get is 1 😑😑

[low stump]

@autumn ledge please share your code in this channel #🚀︱sos-x-pacific-rim-share

[raw prism]

Hi there,

I have a suggestion for fair play during SvS fight. There's 3 Stage of fighting right? then I would suggest that the Game should protect people in Grey zone from Enemy's Whales through that stage. Why? because Weak players always tried to get points too and it's hard if they can't wounded their enemy troops and they're with their Rally Lead then there are Whales from enemy state always spank them to teleport elsewhere and that's not a really fair fight and bad experience for the game.

I also suggest to remove that useless Wall Destroyer as well, People complaint a lot for that tool and make the rules allowed or not allowed to use Wall Destroyer all the time and it's always not a fair fight, so let's the best man win. This is kind of annoying that shouldn't happen in Grey Zone. Please Only Allow Free-to-All to attack in Grey Zone allowed, No need for State vs State, making rules not to attack others in Grey but the game should make that rule in their code rather than people make rules that always meant to be broken every time.

Another thing that is my suggestion - All Bunkers should have low SvS points from occupied. That will be easy for Weak alliance to get points too because they will not have chances against Whales for points in Facilities & Capital.

Just want to make good game experience for weak players. But I hope That's not going to upset Whales as well because I know the Game company always tried to make their profits through whales not f2p, or low spenders. Just my feed back to improve the game. Nothing else!

Summary Feedback :

• Don't show Attack when the Players in Grey Zone (During SvS Fight Stage)
• Remove Wall Destroyers so the Players can have the Fair Fight.
• Allow Attack in Grey During Free-For-All Stage.
• All Bunkers can Fight & occupied for low points than 4 Facilities & Capital for points for weak alliances.

That's all. I hope The Game consider this and change. Good luck!!!

[hallow belfry]

Is it just me or are we only getting 4 intel each time when it’s auto completed now?

[narrow marsh]

I had no Intel last two days other than alliance help ones and the two dinos in the first batch.

[spark fossil]

Hello, as a reminder codes are posted here so we can keep them all together and easy to find https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1263066991300968530

[stable cosmos]

Intel IMO is currently busted. The conversion is most likely permanent and it is extremely unlikely that the devs will revert or redevelop it. Cos they almost never do that sort of thing.

This is because f---plus are incompetent, greedy and immoral

[spark fossil]

I have noticed it too on mine. Other than behemoths it's just been the helps

[midnight aspen]

majority of the intels have been helped by your alliance. if you noticed when intel refreshes, they show up as per normal. after 2 hours, they are all 'helped'

at least tat's what i noticed. behemoth can't be helped.

[elfin blade]

They are full of 💩 always use ‘algorithm’ to describe things they don’t want to explain, like many of us don’t work in digital industries and more knowledgeable than them..
I complained about our points being reduced when prize pool opened and getting a lower tier of rewards, they first said there wasn’t an error then said there was but we sent comp and can’t fix it now. Comp was pathetic

[hollow zinc]

I wouldn't mind seeing their algorithm and help them clean it, cause I'm pretty sure it has of algorithm only the name. 😅

[marble grove]

People complaining about little amount of intel, wait till migo and you'll all complain of too much again 🤣🤣

[stable cosmos]

You miss out on the rss, batteries, and travis packs that you got in the mail. There are also, as far as i can tell, less of your personal intel. At least 1 less of each.

[stable cosmos]

Migo intel is garbage, not cos theres too much but because it doesn't grant the same stuff, or overdoes the outdated survivor missions. If they gave Tn-1 troops at all times it'd be fine

[marble grove]

I'm not bothered as long as my dailies can be done in 1 hit 🤣

This on the other hand, is a joke

[hallow belfry]

I see different, I only see 4 are completed by others and nothing else, we should get 8 intel in total

Only 4 intel… where are the other 4 I should have?

And I can’t add a video to an in game ticket

[hollow zinc]

Those help intel are a plague. They hide real intel and sometime I have a guy in the alliance that have 3 of them ...

[slow thicket]

in our state their is often an arrangement between states to forbid attack in the grey zone, did you try or someone from u state tried to do it with other states?

[slender sierra]

Let me summarize. Please remove all events where there is a fight 😂

[stable cosmos]

I'd prefer to get my full allotment of things that help me out rather than a cut down version that reduces growth.

[hollow zinc]

We also have agreements that were not followed in 2 of our 3 last SvS.
As for wallbreaker, why remove one of the only feature that gives a bit of strategy in this game?

[formal elk]

Glad the matchmaking is fixed for RR has been fixed

[hollow zinc]

It's fixed, you are 30 they are 29.

[formal elk]

4M raid score against 14.5M

[hollow zinc]

It was a joke, right 😉

[formal elk]

I laughed so hard

[jovial vigil]

RR matching got botched, other side has about 3 times our raid score🤣

[jolly harness]

We get this every week. You just know those have 2 OP players in there.

[stoic elm]

lol ours only has less than half of our participants (11) but have more raid score than us 😂

[stable cosmos]

Probably time for a reminder that epic search is still awful

[midnight aspen]

strange. bcos I have 6 and a coupled got help.

im not sure if its a bug though. have you tried to send a ticket?

[hallow belfry]

I sent a ticket and now raised in bug channel with the helpful robot

[merry scroll]

Hey Liannin, thanks for letting me know the issue. I have delivered the complaint and the video to dev team already.

[vale yoke]

You're a star, thanks so much! Just shoot me a message if you'll be needing anything else, then.

[stable cosmos]

Dev chat dev chat. Its still being promised in camp cafe. Its still a thing

[vale yoke]

My husband asked at the wrong time yesterday what I wanted for my birthday.

I was already frustrated with the game

Poor guy

[slow thicket]

i agree for the WB, the only way to hit and kick a whale without having dead troops.

[slow thicket]

for RR i have to say that since im in a low alliance the mathcing is pretty ok, almost same score and number of players, i will not complain on that case for once 😂

[stable cosmos]

If i was to make one change to svs it would be that you can't use biocaps to speed your march up on a base hit. Thats all. Give people a chance to react to the laggy 🐮 💩 this game often is

[lavish heron]

That’s why I say, people will always complain. I mean now you have tons of stamina and yet people complain🤣

[vale yoke]

And see, I ain't worried about the amount of Intel so much as ensuring people are being rewarded appropriately for Intel, whether helps or their own. It also doesn't help that the helps drown out the standard Intel, so that needs balancing.
Otherwise I think the helping is great, and if the rewards were adjusted to reflect as if we were doing our own Intel, it would be better. Especially during MIGO.

There were things about this change for Intel that were great, and that does need to be stated, because for a good amount of people this could be a very positive change. But just don't mess with our earnings from it, we need plasma, cells, rucksacks, etc and even if Intel helps only give half the amount we would normally get (due to the reduced cost and being a supplement to someone else's Intel), it would be an improvement to how it is now.

[stable cosmos]

Thats my issue too. They've taken things away that were useful and the replacement isn't better

Course it would have been nice if they'd just given us what we'd asked for for once. It wouldn't have hurt

Oh no we earn 300 stamina a day now. So overpowered for f2p

[vale yoke]

Also, I'm curious about the trigger for the help spawns. I don't feel they should be tied to our standard Intel completion. In other words, I shouldn't be clearing an Intel of my own and having two help spawns in their place.
If there is an Intel-help trigger, then something needs to be checked and readjusted for a 1:1 spawn.

I love helping people, but I've already been shorting myself for four years to do it. Please don't make me do that even harder.

[stable cosmos]

Can't even do my own intel now. Rollover and its all complete already, all i get are helps

[vale yoke]

I appreciate that the completed Intel still registers for tasks, but sometimes I wanna hit my own stuff

[stable cosmos]

And a button that helps all. Its nice to do intel in 5 seconds but i usually use that time to do other things in game as well

[vale yoke]

I don't mind hunting for Rucksacks on other infected, but since all players are affected by this Intel, that means all players are left to hunt infected on their maps. That will also eventually create problems.

Same here, Cyan, but I don't mind that quick button.

[slow thicket]

The time we win with Intel's we loose it with enigma 🤣

[hollow zinc]

OMG am I the only one with chat lagging so hard? Each time you switch from provate to alliance or back. each time you reduce it and then open it it take like 2 seconds >.<

[vale yoke]

Nope, I am too. I think there have been bug reports about it

I'll check for ya Val

[stable cosmos]

Yeah, chat has issues. Its getting bloated with sos spaghetti code

[vale yoke]

Here you go, Singing Valkyrie - this addresses the chat lag
#🐞︱bug-reporting-bot message

[vale yoke]

They probably left the voice chat thing in even though they decided not to use it 🙄

[slow thicket]

Pc version in windowed is more than laggy, to move the windows it slow down a lot 🤣

[vale yoke]

This golden egg stuff probably isn't helping either, but the chat has been having more and more issues for years.

Instead of a golden egg, maybe meatballs would have been more appropriate

[hollow zinc]

I still haven't figured what the golden egg thing is. I mean except being annoying when you want to send a message.

[stable cosmos]

I actuslly like the quote thing, but if they were going to add more in they should probably have rewritten the module, not tacked stuff on

[vale yoke]

Yes.

I would like the like and dislike if I could see who was liking and disliking, but coding the popup list would probably break something lol

[slow thicket]

Sausages we are in summer and summer means barbecue so...

[stable cosmos]

I mean that is pretty much all they do now. Tack stuff on. In the real world tacking something is temporary while you make it more permanent. Here its permanent

[vale yoke]

My alliance does votes and we take input from all active players, so that's the only reason it would be ideal, is our specific circumstance.
Otherwise the basic like/dislike is fine because it makes the point.

[vale yoke]

You just reminded me we're grilling tonight

[hollow zinc]

the like and dislike is useless. We aren't on fb ... And it usually ends in people mass downvoting people they don't like without reading the message and liking people they like even if they say completely dumb things. It turned into a war of the vote on 1255 with an alliance downvoting a message and the other upvoting just to annoy.

[stable cosmos]

Too cold for that here still. Needs another month

[slow thicket]

Like and dislike is the most useless feature they could add to the chat 🤣

[opaque spear]

Golden Eggs are found in some packs. You can share them with your alliance.

[stable cosmos]

I think stickers were the most useless.

[vale yoke]

Bleh stickers

They're funny and cute, but ultimately an emoji would work. They could have just reworked that

[slow thicket]

Hope u have fresh drinks for us

[opaque spear]

I am terrible with stickers 😅

[stable cosmos]

They put those out like they were this amazing thing everyone wanted. It took them a month to actually enable them after their announced release

[vale yoke]

BYOB but I've got the iced tea, water, and soda

[slow thicket]

That's ok I don't drink alcohol 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Btw anyone actually using the emotes when you're in a building?

[vale yoke]

Fantastic!

[vale yoke]

I did once. Accidentally.

[slow thicket]

Who does that 🤣

[vale yoke]

It was the completely wrong emote too

[lavish heron]

I think every time state merge happens, the next RR is always a mess. Usually worse matching than any other RR during the season

[stable cosmos]

I did once as well. Inside the poison gas. Because i was offing myself to finish the round

[vale yoke]

Hahahaha mine was in PoW I think

I remember I used the wrong march and basically immediately died and I think I sent heart eyes or something stupid

[stable cosmos]

I haven't been in alliance hall for a month. I visit my island by accident more than on purpose

[vale yoke]

Like yeah, thanks, I loved that.

I set up Alliance Hall, and I'm usually the only one who goes.

[stable cosmos]

Almost vip10 though so I'll get a mansion to ignore as well

[vale yoke]

Other folks will be on like "ehhh"

No probs, I feel the same lol

[vale yoke]

Yea Posty is too. I'm trying to delay the inevitable

[stable cosmos]

The stuff you get in hall is actually pretty good too, the problem is its all once a day and activated by r4 and r5. So if its not a suitable time you lose out

Once a day?week? Something

[vale yoke]

Week

If it were more like Trap where it had a 47 hour refresh rate, that wouldn't be so bad. Or even like Horde where it was only available two days out of the week, but not limited to Tuesday or Thursday like Horde is.

[hollow zinc]

We try to start them after trap or RR when we have a maximum people online. But yeah ...

[vale yoke]

You have people who don't immediately log off once the event is over?

Dude, ours are like "okay, done, peace" lol

[calm meteor]

That's what we do as well. After trap

[calm meteor]

Hahahaha, well after every event, yes. But we make announcements beforehand so players know

[hollow zinc]

Some do, but we announce during the last minutes of trap we are doing community event. If they still leave ... Well 😅

[vale yoke]

I mean same, but that doesn't mean they care lol

[hollow zinc]

We did one during horde too once. Since horde is boring 😄

[vale yoke]

Shoot, I watch people peace out halfway through trap because they got their rallies in. It's all cool with me, don't get me wrong, but I find it interesting to hear about others experiences and compare to ours

Oh during horde is a good one, I like that

[marble grove]

Me but I usually leave after getting minimums 🤣

[calm meteor]

Oh trap... I leave after I've joined 4... (for migo) and without migo just 2 🤣

[marble grove]

I'm lucky to make 1 trap a week 🤣

[vale yoke]

I'm there the whole time lol sometimes we'll get to the last rallies and they won't fill because so many people logged off 🤣 I get a kick out of it

We don't take any events seriously, so I'm not bothered by it. I think it's funny

[calm meteor]

Well in my alliance all rallies are full and I have to be fast enough to join 😂

[vale yoke]

I play three accounts during trap, so I'm half a rally myselves lol

I usually wait until others get in and then backfill

[low stump]

golden fingers☺️

[slow thicket]

need to have fast fingers then 👀

[vale yoke]

Liannin, this is a family-friendly server. Do NOT make that joke.

[abstract basalt]

Why states from battle zone 1 cannot be divided into more battle zones?
That was already unfair for last Doomsday. Again great job for devs 🙄

[lavish heron]

I don’t understand why I’m not seeing my rank for splendor in my state but I am too 100 in all states

[cloud topaz]

Anyone know what I can do with this situation. I can’t log in to my account. It’s just stuck on this and customer service keeps saying same thing.

I have done all the troubleshooting

[tame lintel]

Migrate recently?

[lavish heron]

Nope

[tame lintel]

Oh. Then it's simple..

"Optimizations"

🤣🤣🤣

Sorry. No idea. Migrate effects it sometimes. No idea if you didn't move..

[tame lintel]

Try on diff device?? 🤷‍♂️

[cloud topaz]

Tried that too

[cloud topaz]

Didn’t. Been in same state

[vale yoke]

Has it only been like this since the update?

[cloud topaz]

Nope happened abt 2 hrs ago. I did update yesterday or day before

[frosty sparrow]

Just dmed you.

[vale yoke]

Hm, I know I logged into a patch about that time. Wonder if that has anything to do with it.

Thanks Dragon

Hopefully you can help them

[true vault]

Updated bunker and fortified facility rewards. So many updates for everything else but still garbage rewards for these!! 🤦‍♀️

[jolly harness]

The more " updates " we get the more bugs we have. stop asking for it

[wooden dew]

Hi Mrs B, I agree - an overhaul for the rewards there is long overdue. Even a small change in what is awarded would be huge, imo. It’s been brought up a bunch, but to no avail (yet). Time permitting, and if you haven’t already, I’d suggest upvoting requests such as this one: #📋︱feedback-reporting message - in the meanwhile, I’ll write it up such that it’s at the top of the list there. Thank’s for mentioning it! I’ll forward it.

[warm sequoia]

No it not... most the items are poor and you can get much better items for free during events and tasks.

[pallid willow]

For me when that happens it works to switch to data mode instead of wifi, then back on wifi, then close game and open again, and repeat until it works

[cloud topaz]

Yes I have been trying. I did this. I uninstall and installed. Fix game. Made sure I have updated phone and this. Tried a different phone and pc

[icy sage]

Has anyone brought up the fact that we can no longer get power cells to donate to the trap ever since help others option was introduced? this is worse now because of the quick help button. we literally have 0 intel to do in active alliances

[pallid willow]

I do hate the thing, i wanna do my intel not others intel 🤔

Where do they come up with these ideas anyways😒

[wooden dew]

Hi ShameerISM, yes it has been brought up before - even so, that’s a great observation. It’s been nice to rapidly complete intel but I agree, not being able to amass power cells (as quickly as before) is a definite downside when it comes to Trap. For super active alliances this certainly is exacerbated. An easy fix for this would just be for them to be including as rapid completion rewards alongside what intel missions normally provide, imo. Thanks for pointing that out. Hopefully there can be a fix for it soon. I’ll forward it so it’s up there.

[icy sage]

Thank you!

[vale yoke]

It was brought up. It's been being brought up.

[wide wraith]

not that its really needed now as trap is so weak

[vale yoke]

Others may not feel the same, Shadow, or be lower levels and needing them

Also, the alliance honor or whatever

[wide wraith]

yeah, but they need more levels for the rest of us

[vale yoke]

I don't disagree, but that's not what you said initially.

[strong grove]

Again a bad state merger 😅

[vale yoke]

Oof.

[wide wraith]

is there ever a good state merger

[vale yoke]

I didn't wanna be the one to ask

Lol

[slow thicket]

already mentionned in feedback 😉

[vale yoke]

Saberlot even replied to me in this channel regarding it.

[strong grove]

Days after two states merge, the state's best players move to another state

😅

[elfin blade]

The timing of them is stupid, would be better a couple of weeks later to give it a chance but instead they have to move right away or wait 3 months

[hollow zinc]

Transfer and merge are done in the worst way possible.
I'm dealing with transfer right now and this is thought soooo poorly. The fact invitation are done before the actual transfer. So people who are guaranteed to join the state have to move first and the people who will have to fight for a spot move next. Sure ...
the other way people could have tried their luck to join and people who missed the spot but are really wanted could get an invitation and still join. But I guess it was too smart.

[boreal gate]

@merry scroll When will we have resonate vouchers event again? been waiting for ages

[karmic widget]

I’ve just noticed this in enigma crates!
Why not give us gen 13+ potions? We start g19 next week 🙄

[elfin blade]

Are you on gen 12 now?

[boreal gate]

he just said hes on gen 19 next week

[elfin blade]

Ye but could be about to have gen skip no?

[humble spear]

Exactly

[boreal gate]

thats gonna suk...,gen skip i mean

[humble spear]

They are in rush. But not on the right way if they still want this game alive and get few dollars

[cloud ridge]

Gen skip always a bich

[forest kiln]

🤣 I just saw what it was gen 7-13 potions. Thought it was regular ones. Why on earth we need it with gen 19 coming

[slow thicket]

Devs are genius 🤣🤣🤣

They are so disconnected that they don't know what potion to give 🤣🤣🤣

[pallid willow]

👀

[forest kiln]

In 704

Looks like we are not old enough 🤣

[pallid willow]

Must be a bug better report it 🙈

Im 700s too

[karmic widget]

On gen 18 now

[wide wraith]

they have to prepare cant have anyone from the 700s winning that new junk event

[elfin blade]

I would definitely raise a CS ticket then, ours are correct

[vernal moss]

That’s very odd. I’d report it to CS as Michelle mentioned. You definitely shouldn’t be given the old potions.

[karmic widget]

It’s insanity! I have many 7-12 potions but no frags to even do anything with those heros 😂

[vernal moss]

Oop, frost was faster

[forest kiln]

I cant believe they do this stuff manually, but looks like they do this tasks manually 🤣

[wide wraith]

or they just took on a new intern and just said add potions, not which ones to add

[forest kiln]

Hmmm... One intern doing this "claim all", second - this endless bundles, this is third one

[wide wraith]

probably the same one but they got rid of the one before

[vernal moss]

It possibly may be a visual error. Have you managed to get the potion as a reward yet, dolphin?

[forest kiln]

Yes, looks like visual, because in "new" was Gen +13

[vernal moss]

Ah that’s great to hear then, just poor selection in the picture provided dev side. Thanks lissa!

[vale yoke]

At least a visual bug is easier to correct

Allegedly

[karmic widget]

Plenty but don’t really look in bag tbh 😂

[slow thicket]

Happily it was not the contrary 🤣

[random tiger]

Can someone clarify the golden egg thing? Do we need to purchase to get them and then what do they do? 😂. Secondly, if SOS did an option to buy stickers I would actually spend again on a few. 😉

[rapid phoenix]

Hello, concerning the golden eggs, the only information that we know till now is that you can obtain them through certain bundles and share it in alliance chat and get limited rewards, concerning stickers you can actually play the feeding frenzy event and if you ranked in the top 100 you can get stickers, however we can send a report feedback concerning that if you'd like in this channel #📋︱feedback-reporting using that format #📋︱feedback-how-to, I can write it for you if you wanted

[strong grove]

What is this

Important?

[rapid phoenix]

Hello, you can use it to upgrade your carrier if you have it yet

[cloud ridge]

Only for rallie leads

Ignore it if joiner

[vocal zephyr]

Rally leaders only for the carrier. Very expensive and you need many of them

[strong grove]

😬

[cloud ridge]

Spend the coins on something better

[random tiger]

Thank you. With so many events I do not have time for feeding frenzy let alone rank 100. 😂 If they ever put them in a bundle I would spend again. Until then holding out on spending due to all the mergers and massive amount of events. Not worth spending if I cannot join events.

[strong grove]

@rapid phoenix @vocal zephyr @cloud ridge
Thank you so much ❤❤

[rapid phoenix]

Yes there are a lot of events 😅 you're welcome. If you would like we can send a report feedback to add stickers in bundles as I said I can write it for you if you wanted

[stoic elm]

I hope this means intel is finally back to normal🫰

[winter echo]

I had some to do as well. 😍 I wasn’t sure if it was the timing and less players had been on to help with my Intel or if it fixed itself. I’ll find out later after more players have been on and my radar resets. 😋

[coarse verge]

It appears when no one is on to do quick intel

[stable cosmos]

It would make more sense if your intel went out for help if not done within 8 hours

[foggy osprey]

I always wake up to my intel done but even during day there is not much to complete people are fast

[nova jetty]

What was wrong with Intel the way it was?

I liked it

[stable cosmos]

People were annoyed at lack of stamina. This is the fix.

Its a bad fix as we now miss out on stuff

[winter echo]

I was wondering if this wasn’t the answer to we aren’t giving you more stamina so we will make Intel cost less. 😂

[stable cosmos]

Amy time the devs fix something you can guarantee theyll pick the worst method

[nova jetty]

So make it cheaper..why redo it its like fixing a scratch by amputation

[stable cosmos]

Welcome to sos. This is what they do. They aren't nice

[winter echo]

We don’t get Energy Cells to donate to the Trap this way.

[foggy osprey]

Maybe if they added setting for us so we could pick if we allow or not others to do our intel

[nova jetty]

We dont?

[stable cosmos]

You miss out on everything that would normally be in your mailbox

[winter echo]

I haven’t been getting them when others are doing my Intel. And we don’t get them from helping. 😔

[nova jetty]

That is what we are for ...the sugar on the medicine

[foggy osprey]

I got nothing as well😔

[stable cosmos]

That should absolutely not be your job

[nova jetty]

No but it does help

[stable cosmos]

Mostly f---plus.

[winter echo]

Sweeten the bitter taste. 😂

[nova jetty]

I just looked I don't have trap donations either. .

[winter echo]

So as much as I don’t mind the time and stamina that gets saved, we are actually missing out on needed stuff. This really isn’t helpful at all. 😔

There was feedback submitted for this: #📋︱feedback-reporting message. If you all could upvote, that would be great. 😎

[stable cosmos]

Normally its give with one hand take with the other when you're being nasty or dishonest. This lot is take with both hands

[vale yoke]

There was also this feedback, being the first one reported.
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Saberlot had some time to respond to the concerns earlier, stating they were passed forward, along with video I had posted.

#📋︱feedback-discussion message

[winter echo]

Thank you for sharing! ☺️

I gave that one an upvote, too.

[digital glacier]

Text and images you copy will automatically show here00:00:46 first port to 708:708
00:01:08 2nd port to 699:699

Still not get credited 😑 sos = fmita without lube 😑

Migration plan can suck a big fat horse C!!!

[vale yoke]

[marble grove]

Dont you love getting 2 frags for a sentinel and never see them again? 🤣

[distant gull]

@foggy osprey
In 1325 they got single Lucky Ferris Wheel Stars from Endless Bonanza

[tame jackal]

i hate it

[stable anvil]

They want you to spend to get frags or get general frags and craft it that way

[stable cosmos]

I wish they'd just give us general frags in all events so after 5 of the. F2p could craft a single sentinel of their choice.

Once again, this sort of thing doesn't hurt gameplay devs. If people make progress they're happier than just being held down all the time

[spark fossil]

Hello Cyan, if you would like to add this to feedback I can help you if you would like

When submitting feedback we use this as a template
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[stable cosmos]

If it was something i thought they'd do i would. But as i know it won't i won't waste my time. They still haven't inplemented simple stuff from 4 years ago

[spark fossil]

I personally like the idea. An easier way for f2p players to earn things. I remember in the beginning of it, we could get general frags. Then it stopped. That's actually how I was able to get a sentinal for myself. Just took a few events and a little luck.

If free to play players have something to strive for it would help keep players engaged more in my opinion, what do you think?

[stable cosmos]

Of course. I know this, you know this. Its been pointed out many times in feedback but the devs never act on it. So unless the feedback allows someone to go to their office and threaten them till they implement something useful its not worth it.

I now only feedback stuff that isn't related to their cash flow like their many gui f--- ups. Guess how well thats working 🤣

[stable anvil]

So why is it that ours states are at a big disadvantage due to the gen skip, went from gen 12 to gen 19, we lost 6 gens of heroes

[stable cosmos]

Devs want to get everyone onto the same gen to improve matching but they don't hsve the slightest clue what they're doing so you just suffer

[stable anvil]

As of now we have only 1 march to defend ourselves if we face olders state who have 6 gens of heroes more than ours

We send out gen 19 heroes and then all we have are gen 12 heroes defending us

Devs did what they wanted, kill all servers in one go

[karmic widget]

You won’t get matched with other older states until the next gen is out. So in this case gen 20.

[spark fossil]

Hello Natsu, yes there is a disadvantage right away with hero skip. Just like any new hero gen it takes a bit to be able to level up and possibly max. With the the way its works, I will look back and give you the time frame, once a hero skip happens you will have a certain amount of time that you won't be pared outside of your original matchmaking. What I did find tho, for free to play players and low spenders have an easier opportunity to level up and max the previous generation heros with getting more crates for them than the new ones. I will go look at the time frame now I will be right back.

[karmic widget]

I believe it’s 3 months. A whole generation, I could be wrong though 🤔

[spark fossil]

#📋︱feedback-discussion message
12 weeks according to Saberlot

I knew I had just seen it I just needed to find it so I didn't accidentally give wrong info.

[stable anvil]

In 3 more months we will be paired with olders states

Thats sucks

[spark fossil]

At the end of it yes

[stable anvil]

Welp catzilla can do another vid with the new super state wanting to face DYZ

[spark fossil]

Not even gonna lie. I faced off against catzilla when we tested mining mayhem in the ptr when it first came out... I'd hate to meet him in the live game 🤣🤣

[stable anvil]

I hope those rays place gives tons of good crates amount and they raise the rates on crates searches for us to atleast get 3 previos gens maxed

[spark fossil]

May I dm you? I would like to send you some screen shots showing what it looks like for me in multiple states as far as hero search rewards

Let's bring this conversation to #🆘︱sos_discussion so we can keep the chat clear for anyone who wants to do a feedback request. I will tag you.

[stable flame]

Is GM-Lelia a real person? Aren’t GM’s supposed to be contactable through Discord?

[spark fossil]

Yes they are. Not all are in this server though. If they send you a message in game then you have to message them through dm by searching the name they gave you.

[stable flame]

I’ve searched and cannot locate them

[spark fossil]

May I dm you?

[stable flame]

Sure

[raw breach]

Golden fortune 😆

[calm meteor]

I got like 4 dices from the "golden fortune" my alliance mates shared. Did you get anything good?

[jade minnow]

Hello:) Where We can get that 'skin'?
Looks like Battle Crusier from starcraft, but still one of the best in the game;)

[calm meteor]

If I am not wrong.... this skin was available in the last astro wheel event.

[jolly harness]

Max I've seen someone get is 12 dice

[jade minnow]

so I missed it:( looks nice

[calm meteor]

12 is still pretty nice compared to my fortune 🤣

[calm meteor]

It will probably be back, can't say for certain. However I agree, it looks nice!

[jade minnow]

There is too many events lately, soon new migo will start, so We can miss something...but I will wait for that 'skin' 🙂

[calm meteor]

Yes I understand.. good luck getting it next time!

[jade minnow]

Thanks, good luck for You too if don't have it already;)

[lavish heron]

I tried to play the putrid tide and my screen went blank twice. Game didn’t even play and it closed. Opened the game only to find they had taken the chances

This game is a scam

[barren bison]

Hey Azayji, check this report here #🐞︱bug-reporting-bot message and upvote if it's related.
Also please open a ticket with CS about this so they can handle it asap

[jade mesa]

Hello Natsu ... The problem of skip states has been going on for over a year
i was in the very first skip state group .. we got skipped Gen 13-14 and went straight to 15
And you are right
Spenders maxed out three gens immediately .... But f2p only got 1 hero maxed out each gen .. It took me two migo seasons just to get 1 good march without spending
...
The good news is you will get previous gen hero frags pretty easily, and have the benefit of other players experience so you can pick the best of these heroes and focus only on them
...
So many many players reported it, there were petitions, But as we expected every state will at some point face this "skip" and the jump gets bigger and bigger
...
There is both good and bad news on the matchmaking, as the pool for group 1 is so massive now
On the one hand RR matchmaking will be way way better and you will most likely get the time you prefer, but .. that same massive matchmaking pool is so big that games in tournament events like Doomsday or this new Royale, will be very tough for f2p players and teams who will most likely get knocked out the first match or two they play, making these events unplayable for the majority of players and teams in group 1 .. So good news bad news

[amber linden]

and meeting 697 in your first migo group in this big state pool, i am excited 😌

AD will be fun

[wide wraith]

We went from 13 - 17 but are still at a huge disadvantage, however the Devs and CMs cant see that losing out on time to complete the Gens with 13 and 14 being non existent now so that there is no possible way to get them. The New royale thing will be unplayable, so for me wont even be worth signing up for, one of my Alts lost out on another Gen going from 13 - 18

our first SVS after the safe period was against 180

[pallid willow]

I hope the states on matchmaking are the same type than in rr, koh, nexus etc and not the old type of states we got last time we had alliance duels

Cause that would be quite unfair with the trash states formed this transfer 🙂

[wide wraith]

of course matching will be unfair, it always is

[pallid willow]

I prefer unfair with old states than others tbh

[jade mesa]

It takes 2 migo seasons to get a 1 March … unless you spend a lot
Means 6 months of being beaten by players in older states with 3 good marches … 6 months … Devs don’t seem to realize players don’t enjoy losing daily for 6 months
But if you can last long enough .. you get to play newer skip states😈😅

[wide wraith]

and still the CMs will not push for extra capsules/potions for those who suffered the Gen Skip

they are under the impression that there is no disadvantage

[jade mesa]

Nope .. we begged and begged for it … and we were actually promised frags for those gens, but we have players that have not even been able to locate gen 13 or 14 heroes
…
Devs actual answer: add only completion frags to rays place .. however cut the rate you get frags in half🤣🤣 we now get 5 frags per 10x spin avg as opposed to 10 frags per 10x spin we got before

[wide wraith]

but there didnt add to Rays place we have 15, 16, 17 in the crates and 18 for the other one, not that we have enough

[tardy night]

The disadvantage is easily felt in rr and koth.

The sheer amount of whales leaving gen skip states to flock to older ones tells the tale easy enough. Support is seen less as an asset more as a liability.

[jade mesa]

Effectively we get less than 75 frags for 150 spins (ofc that doesn’t includes the rewards boxes for the first 120 spins)

[wide wraith]

take the hero frags and other useless junk out of the epic and advanced searches and add capsules and potions for Gen 13 and 14 to epic, the rest to advanced

[jade mesa]

We asked for this a year ago

[wide wraith]

I know but it needs CMs to also support us, but they wont of course

[jade mesa]

But then … we still have plague zones giving out purple hero frags 🤣🤣🤣

[stable anvil]

The issue idk if you seen sos discussion just yet but its far worse when you start opening the package. You got skips on 2 gens but we are skipped a whole entire sectiona, frags are one part potions are another things.and we wont have enough based the current amount we usually get. So yeah we are at a heavy disadvantage.

[wide wraith]

i havent done a plague zone in over a year

[jade mesa]

True
But In some ways it was way worse for us … yes we got skipped gen 13-14
However … we had from gen 7 to 12 changed to limitless just a month before
So actually we got 9 generations of heroes in less than two months

[tardy night]

You're at an advantage. There was no powerplay giving 60 potions daily when we had gen skip.

[jade mesa]

We don’t have that

Oh wait .. yeah we do now too

[wide wraith]

but powerplay is only for high spenders or those who ignore other events

[jade mesa]

Yeah exactly why I don’t play it

[wide wraith]

i cannot wait for stuff to be on the right segment, some of us have real lives

[jade mesa]

Also ..there was no delay for us … we got put into the main pool immediately
So yeah was rough for a while

[stable cosmos]

Given feedback at least 3 times on epic and advanced. With pictures. its outdated now though as the capsules are different. In the main epic should always be capsules for the last 3 gens. Advanced should be for the 3 before that. Both should grant more than rss and combat manuals. Neither should be granting rusty frags still

[tardy night]

The rough bit is in events where top folks depended on depleting opponent support (literally impossible with how fat those older States are )

And where 3 or more marches are involved. Like koth or rr. Second and 3rd March onwards is always dumb to see.

[stable cosmos]

And i maintain that potions need to be way more common. Its 1800 to do the last 3 levels... thats a heck of a lot

[jade mesa]

Agree .. asked for this already as well … as well as asking for events like plague zones rewards to be changed in line with this too

[charred swift]

I don’t agree with this. Sure you might not get first place but it is not difficult to get the 3 main chests from normal play which would give 66 potions a day.

[tacit roost]

its possible yes, but this means SoS is the main thing in your day and you play when the game tells you. basicly every day you get a sheulde and you bow an follow it.

[jade mesa]

both true .. the main issue for me is the schedule plus you are forced to use up items you would normally save for other events

[charred swift]

66 potions a day would give you 1800 in less than a month - quicker if you get first place, not sure there are many events with better rewards than that.

[tacit roost]

you get up in the morning and build your day around SoS? how to fullfill a rondom schedule every day?

[jade mesa]

True but only for potions no doubt that and daily hero challenge
However imo the most valuable rewards for any f2p or low spender are dino or monkey parts
Throwdown i think is overall the best rewards as that gives just about everything else other than hero stuff
...
but also migo books gained from ranking better in state events are a huge boost collectively soooooo its a case of having to ignore one or the other .. and the schedule ofc

[charred swift]

No I don’t, you only have to log in 3 times to do power play during the day

[tacit roost]

but how you know when?

there are also 1000 other events, you ignore them all to play only powerplay?

[charred swift]

It’s a rotating schedule, changes every 4 hours

[stable anvil]

We dont have power play now, and if its like the last time only rank 1 gets potions and it was 20 not 60.

[charred swift]

We have it and you can get 66 per day

[stable cosmos]

Yeah sure. It gives you stuff, while the rest of the game is giving me purple and blue frags, and chief XP, and combat manuals, and hero badges, and skill books. Just by normal play. Stuff that is 100% useless. All of it could be swapped for potions as the limiting factor should be capsules

[tardy night]

You haven't been collecting the boxes at all then Natsu.

[stable anvil]

Well then 66 a day for rank 1 is the only way and thats not all people

[charred swift]

86 if you get rank 1

[tardy night]

No, it gives potions normally,you don't need to be ranked to get 60 potions.

[stable anvil]

We dont have power play at the moment since we got merge then transfer and then went from gen 12 to gen 19

[tardy night]

You'll get it....that pause in events occurs for all.

[stable anvil]

So right now only thing most of us have is probably 80 advance potiona from way back

[tardy night]

The thing to worry over is having enough troops and other stuff besides heroes.

[stable cosmos]

Potions shouldn't be an important reward... badges never were. I know why they are, but its not a good reason

[stable anvil]

I have no idea why we still be getting gold bagdes in supply hubs and such, devs can take that back and gimme potions

[tardy night]

Heroes is a small portion of the issue of gen skip. 6 to 9 months you will see rally leads moving out.

[stable cosmos]

Vip crate daily is purple and gold badges

Gen skip is stupid. They should just start new states on gen 16 at this point

[tacit roost]

yes but it is not evers day the same schedule

[stable cosmos]

And increment that every 3 months. No point pushing them through all the prior gens at all

[fathom harbor]

We have the most boring matching in svs 🤣🤣 why 1008 always matched with weaker opponents ??? We have the top 6 strongest behemoth in all state here then we are matched in a dead state ? The game is getting boring ! Another sleeping day during svs

[charred swift]

The cycle is the same but there are 5 sections, lasting 4 hours each, so the first and last are always the same over a 24 hour period

[tacit roost]

i mean, you cannot put in your day routine. if you could every moring before you go to work build troops to get the 3 cretes its easy. but it change and you would need to log in mid day to train... so basicly you get an intraday shedule and this goes too far for a game

[stable cosmos]

Congrats the devs like you. They're giving you what they think whales want which is squash matches against states they want to spend more.

[vale yoke]

Just wait till they get gen skipped and pushed to one of our states.

[charred swift]

Then don’t do it and get your potions elsewhere. Not sure what your complaint is tbh. You can play a full day of svs and spend a week trying to come first in prep and you will get less potions than you can from power play.

[velvet violet]

No need to discuss more. The SOS game it's only for rich people. The game it's even more unbalanced. If I can make a suggestion : Do not allowed people whit low bank account... Ask them to send how much we won in real life, and according to that, allowed or not allowed to enter the game!!!
2 suggestion : Join the big guns in states according the money they have, and the "others ' join them in others states and rename the game to" farm ville'. Keep going but don't count whit me. Lol

[tardy night]

If people were balanced that way, it would be an actual fight.

Current stack is a "war game" for babies who think "war" is throwing nukes around.

Casualty rate per hit from a whale hitting most non whales is higher than actual nukes.

[tidal apex]

It is like one side have nukes and other is just cavemen using sticks and sharpened stones 🤣

[vale yoke]

Wait, people have sticks? I've just been using my sparkling personality and wit.

[stable cosmos]

I've been trying marshmallows. They don't make very good walls and i haven't had any luck using them as projectiles either.

[vale yoke]

Have you tried lighting them on fire?

I'm gonna tell you, flaming projectile marshmallows would terrify me.

My phone took that as I want to listen to a song with fire in the name. That's not weird or anything.

[tardy night]

This survival royale, it's gonna have 2 marches or 3?

Tournament

If it's 3, gg to B & C group. None in there unlock 3rd behemoth March by the time of the elimination lmao

[silent pike]

Only thing i could find regarding Apex Clash is this video from MKR https://discordapp.com/channels/555639568053829632/606820161910997017/1265393889150500914
I couldn't find any information on how many marches you will have but i would think it will be 3 marches just as in Survival Royale seeing that it's the tournament version

[steel musk]

since it's tournament I am sure it will be bad

dumb devs

and fp

[tardy night]

Yeah, good luck to A group. Third march is dead weight for 8500 folks in zone 1

[vale yoke]

Rewrote the information from the post yesterday into a rudimentary guide format and was just looking at those numbers like "oh..."

[tardy night]

Around 5 to 8% of the zone getting to play the annual event. So cool eyy

[vale yoke]

I still feel like that's a .01% improvement from the last tournament (this is a joke)

[tardy night]

Do they release yellow vehicles and spec ops hero one day prior to elimination? 😴😴

[vale yoke]

I mean... Lemme look at my schedule, because short answer to at least one of those is probably yes

I'm actually expecting Rita closer to the end of the tournament/beginning of anniversary

It depends if they give people a chance to adjust their marches before finals and playoffs

[tardy night]

Rita's 7th level probably makes player invulnerable to rockets and gas.

4th level to rockets. 7th to gas :-?

[vale yoke]

I was gonna say stack healing over a set number of rounds or some sort of silence/disarm that ends up bugged in Apex Clash, resulting in nullifying gas

New vehicles should be like... 5 August, just in time for registration

I'm not kidding btw.

Technically we have them already with the vehicle initiative, but yeah, that ends the day Registration for Apex opens.

[tardy night]

Yellow and reds cuz those will be attacking all troops 🤔

Gen 19 is allowed in zone 1?

[vale yoke]

Based on preliminary info, yes

It isn't confirmed, but just from what was released about the event, it's safe to assume the highest available gen will be allowed. At least until it's said otherwise.

"Note: Considering the large number of States in the battle zone 1, the number of matches and advanced players of battle zone 1 is different. All rules may be subjected to changes. Please refer to the in-game content for latest information. Besides, each battle zone has a different restriction on the highest generation of heroes, Behemoths, and aircrafts that can be used. Please check the in-game event page for details."

Again, not confirmed, but a very good possibility considering the timing of the releases and Season.

Next week we have the start of gen 19, plus MIGO, SotF, etc, so there's enough stuff to drive hero and feature growth in advance of Registration, allowing Gen 19 in BZ1 could be feasible

[tardy night]

First iteration, they prolly shift things around midway either way

[vale yoke]

If they don't allow it at first, they'll make a show of capping at 18 citing fairness, and then, as you said, shift things around mid-event

"we heard you" sure you did

I feel like this is just group therapy and all of us are the long-term folks who just stare into the middle distance, guzzle all the free coffee, and say things like "so what's next, Harry Potter?"

Are... Are we maladjusted and cynical?

[tardy night]

Just waiting for hyperflation. Should kick in after SR tournament if another wave of exits occur.

[vale yoke]

Well, remember there will also be MIGO to supplement stats.
All this really says is Q4 is gonna be painful

Tbh I do think there will be inflation, but not to as terrifying a degree as that other title experience - yet. I feel like that's a 2025 thing.

wonders when that dev chats gonna happen

I'm reaching 11 months of waiting for this thing. Patience is a virtue, but I'm no saint.

Tick tock

[tardy night]

4th year was when it started there. But that was also the time they decided to make one part of the game into a sandbox which hasn't obtained a single new player since. (Nearly 4 years later)

336 kds, 0 new folks, 4th year running.

Long as gen skip fodder keeps being brought in, hyperflation will be slower here

[ancient stratus]

Doing Rain of riches on PC really sucks 😆

good luck grabbing 100 like the mobile users do

[mossy cairn]

Yeah not easy to click on those packs fast😁

[marble grove]

Grab 100? I've been getting 120 on mobile 🤣 and lucky to pass 50 on pc 🤣

[coarse verge]

I never get 100 on anything

[tame oxide]

Max 60 on PC most clicks don't register 🙁

[cloud ridge]

Tap like mad

[jolly harness]

Pc clicks sometimes counts double

[ancient stratus]

Or not at all....

[jolly harness]

Fast fingers 🤌

[lavish heron]

Good thing the number of red packs you grab doesn’t equate the rewards you receive

You can grab 60 and still get better rewards than someone who grabbed 80 and vice versa

[pallid willow]

Is it tho? When i click more i do get more dice than when i fart on them

[lavish heron]

Na you just don’t notice it.

Try it tomorrow and next. Take a screenshot when you done

The rewards are not based off on how many red packets you get. It’s just random.

[pallid willow]

Ive notice it tho 😭

[lavish heron]

Alright. If you say so.

[pallid willow]

Well i hope, to me it does seem like the more ones you get the more dice, i only know cause everytime i get like very few cause im sleepy i get like 6-5 dice, then when im well and fast and gather many up until the last ones that are all together, i get up to 14 dice, but who knows

[slow thicket]

+1 i get more rewards with less red cards.

[white lynx]

@spark bane , I'm here now.

Sorry for the tag.

So basically I can create something for you, but I want your ideas and opinions for this before we post something, as a new player I wanna install some faith into you that feedback is listened to, after what you said.

[spark bane]

what would be a very simple fix for the event would be to set strength limits for the teams - i play a game where they have a similar event but a they have set bandwidths for teams eg: a player 15 mil stronger cannot join - he can only join a team that is within his level - i believe it is 10mil either side

so team strengths could be set at 10mil - so players between 1-19 could join and scale it upwards for all

[white lynx]

That sounds good. Unfortunately we can't mention other games, so we so far have that POW is unfairly matching new player against whales, and a fix could be that for new states we match only against own state because they haven't had ages to grow and maybe introduce a power limit + or - say 10 mil

[spark bane]

i am talking troop power not overall power

[white lynx]

I will say though a bp and march power do not give the full story in sos

I will type something up and you can give me either a tweak or a thumbs up if you like?

[spark bane]

yes as i am in state 1322 and fighting players from states between 1312 down to states as low as 1300

not whales but a hell of a lot stronger

[white lynx]

Give me a second please.

So...

Posted on behalf of Onlytrying1.

Observation.
Path of water matching is unfair. Only 24 days in and facing opponents way stonger than myself.

Consequence.
Makes me unwilling to participate in the event and lose out on rewards.

Suggested Solution.
For newer states and players, make it bound by march power level, with a cap of say plus or minus 10mil power and make it appealing to newer members.

How does this seem

[spark bane]

only 24 days not weeks

[white lynx]

Edited, anything you wish to add?

[spark bane]

looks good i just hope they listen

[white lynx]

Ok I will post and ask you to upvote it after, bear with me a moment.

[spark bane]

thank you 🙂

[white lynx]

Was gonna say it's done, quick on the upvote. Always happy to help Only 😎

If you know any others with similar issue, get them to upvote the feedback.

[steel musk]

some feedbacks already know devs will ignore it

like last one

and pow matchmaking we asked for fix it a lot long time and it didn't get fix yet for team

[lavish heron]

Exactly. For some you’re just wasting your time

[steel musk]

and for RR mostly you will get 14 utc

[lavish heron]

Exactly. I know it’s random. That’s why I replied that to her. Maybe she might notice it soon.

[steel musk]

if want the 1st time you select, you will get bad matchmaking then complain about matchmaking then what's changed?

on RR

here last 3 feedbackas devs will ignore it..

and they barely listen anyway

even if feedback report was good

[vale yoke]

I can confirm this, actually. It happened earlier today. I'm mobile, so I can get tap-happy. Def got 9 dice on 165 taps, and 14 dice on 132 taps

As you said, it's random, and more often than not I do get more dice for more taps, but it isn't consistent

[lavish heron]

Yeah that’s why I don’t bother or stress to get 100. Most times you’ll get between 10-13 dice

That’s the regular number. Getting above is just being lucky and getting below is being unlucky but yeah, still random.

[solid rivet]

When is the anniversary event?

[vale yoke]

September, I think

I'm actually in the middle of tracking events and such for the next couple months so I'll see if I can't give a projection

Looks like sometime between the 4th and 7th of September as best I can guess.

Wrong chat

Lol

[unreal lichen]

Feedback: Bring Submarine as next vehicle with a building for new currency to buy

[distant gull]

Yes better than Gen 2 tanks worst

[charred swift]

Serious question - why are people still joining new states, seems like a waste of time to me but interested to know .

[wraith vapor]

See their friends playing it and join probably, they should read this chat first before joining this game

[marble grove]

Fun fact not using your boost vouchers actually gets you more speeds

Or you can buy 4x (2x 1h speeds) at a discounted, 5 tokens a go

[rapid phoenix]

oh wow, well that's true

[wraith vapor]

I m so surprised 😂

[wraith vapor]

Thought that was the gonna be the next carrier 😂😂

[near mesa]

Fun fact: it will be patched the next day just because you post it here

[vale yoke]

[near mesa]

Day what of waiting for the dev chat

[vale yoke]

That requires math

I'm in no state

[near mesa]

[vale yoke]

It's been since 5 September, so almost 11 months

[slow thicket]

bugs for us are resolved quicker than bugs for devs

[winter canyon]

How is everyone doing? It's been a long time

[last hazel]

Hiyo Elizabeth.

[rapid phoenix]

hey Elizabeth

[winter canyon]

Ni

Rion

[stable anvil]

Season coins event removed and yet trucks having coins

Rip to all the jackpots that were lost due to devs making it individual state event but making the pool prize in a whole state range

[midnight aspen]

hmmm, looks like dev forgot to remove them from trucks.

[lime zealot]

Meanwhile, steam statistics shows that population again decreased to values of 1 year ago, when game was released on their platform

If we gonna lose 10 actives per month, then within 2 years game will be dead at steam, prob other versions too

In reality it snowballs once exodus begins

[amber linden]

Yeah but at least you didn’t had to start at 0 for gen 7-12 😅

[wide wraith]

most of 7 - 12 are useless except for Strings as a backup in Explorer

[tardy night]

They nerfed 8,10,12. So we did double the work for worse heroes.

We first worked on 7 to 10. Then had to waste frags on their skills to make them do something

[stable cosmos]

Game is moronic for new states. Start in purple, level up to 12 for some reason then gen skip. Start in purple and figure out the first release for when svs hits. Probably gen current -1 should be the first legendaries you get

Added to that being all the old useless gens are available for cheap elsewhere. Limited potions for 1 currency, capsules for 2. They have no purpose at all once gen 13+ are in use except for niche stuff so open them up

[tardy night]

They won't do that. Simple reason. Fodder tier has to be kept in game so the bigs feel good about the money spent when they hit fodder tier.

But fodder tier is chased out by morons when stat inflation hits day 1 of spending when everyone else at 0% and 1 or 2 rogues sitting at 2k%

Both their older games had that issue. Peeps were 10k% when normal newbies were at 0%

[stable cosmos]

Fodder tier would still be fodder even with the first 12 gens maxed out

[tardy night]

They shut the game down for newbies after a point and opened silo states after

[tardy night]

Newbies don't know that. Hope is key to retention lol

Tell them day 1 they are cannon fodder and will always be so. See how many stay.

[stable cosmos]

Its more about sensible progression for new states if they're gonna keep going. Can't gen skip your way out

They'll keep doing it of course. Always pick the s---tiest option

[white turret]

Is the behemoth skin striker eureka any good?

[carmine bridge]

The gypsy one is the best but if you end up with striker it's better than nothing

[white turret]

Would you happen to have any reports?

[carmine bridge]

I m sorry no

[white turret]

No worries

[pallid willow]

It’s not random lol

And with over 100 🤣 may the random start between how many dice you get over 6 to 14 dice above 100 envelopes or a bit less

But, the more envelopes is always more rewards, specially bios and dice

[tame lintel]

Nah. But your comment is 😅😅🤣🤣😉

[pallid willow]

Uh? People said hours ago that it was random, if you have no idea about what’s being spoken shuttt

[tame lintel]

Wow.

Go eat cornflakes. And wake up 🤗🤗🤗

Coffee helps too

[pallid willow]

I was talking to azayji anyways😌

[tame lintel]

So hostile

[pallid willow]

You started it, don’t be hostile if you don’t want hostile back😉😉

[lavish heron]

Come on guys… calm

[pallid willow]

Im calmed🤗

[tame lintel]

This doesn't show hostility. Fyi.

🤗🤗😘

Cornflakes and coffee.

Youll see

[lavish heron]

Just did mine and the one with less got more. These are the two for my two accounts just now

[pallid willow]

Maybe its starts random above certain number, perhaps 27 was too low 🤔

[lavish heron]

27 would be too low I guess but I have never gotten 27. Always 65+ above but never up to 90

Just play it as you’d play it any day. But try to notice the number of red packets you get

[pallid willow]

I’ll try again with 60 then, cause if it ends up really being random then is less stress🤣🤣

[lavish heron]

Yeah I don’t stress.

[tame lintel]

🤣🤣🤣

[stable cosmos]

I normally do 100, paid less attention. Did 75. Got 12 dice. Forgot the rest. Guess I'll check 100 tomorrow

[slow thicket]

someone to talk about the fact they want to close Forteress Fight

[slow thicket]

Players : change FF rewards
Devs : ok got it, we closing FF cause we dont want to change rewards

[jolly harness]

Just saw it. Ffs this the way I test my rallies in state to be ready for SVS 🤦

[stable cosmos]

Stuff we do want cancelled keeps going. Stuff we just want changes to gets removed. Perhaps i should start asking for a change in the rewards on feeding frenzy and koth. Maybe they'd chuck them

[vale yoke]

I'm assuming this is in conjunction with the surveys they've done regarding events.
If that is the case, asking people to rank events like they or don't like is fine, as a preliminary method of narrowing your options, but then you actually have to ask why people don't like things - especially standard events like FF.

90% of the time, it will be due to the rewards, and not the functionality.

This seems to me to be another trigger happy decision of theirs which ignores the actual issues.

[amber linden]

yeah would be good point to discuss with the devs in a dev talk 👀

[vale yoke]

So if I were to poll the community, I would first start with the batches of underperforming events - which is something you did a couple months back.
Those events were then ranked by participants in order of preference. Cool, cool.
Then more surveys went out regarding events, but within the contents of those surveys and interactions (because Camp Cafe also contained some of these discussions) were more vital input which could direct decision making.

Instead, it's like the devs said "well, they don't like fortress fight, and the reason why doesn't seem very clear" when the reason why has been staring you in the face for over two years - THE REWARDS.

big breath

[charred swift]

Rewards from FF are more useful to me than rewards from CC. Get rid of CC

[amber linden]

and the good old lethality buff, there is no other way to get it unless money of course, if they cancel that give us a chance to get it in vip store for bios

[pallid willow]

Devs torture chamber open again?

[jolly harness]

This is what happens if you ask the devs to change anything. Stop asking things 😮‍💨

[abstract basalt]

What nonsense is that?

[amber linden]

and the funniest part are sentences like "we read all feedback" and "we take all feedback seriously", no you dont

you dont care about what the players say

its like a slap in the face

[vale yoke]

They really don't unless it's something which guarantees large amounts of money.

Is anyone (that isn't a new state) actually paying money to fight in FF? I mean, consistently? Likely not. So instead of updating rewards like we have been asking for years, they're just like "no revenue means no one plays"

As Don has already mentioned, something like that could have been discussed prior to implementing in something like a dev chat

I've heard those are being offered to players, can't remember where though

[abstract basalt]

It's just ridiculous

[stable cosmos]

Hamg on. The rewards for AH need changing. Shall i ask for that too? It might get removed from migo...

Actually i rather like AH i just wish it had better matching and the prizes didn't suck

Koth can still die in a fire though.

[slow thicket]

All the events we hate we should complain about rewards to have it removed

[stable cosmos]

Starts complaining about migo rewards

[vale yoke]

Wait. Guys. I have an idea.

State of Survival has the worst rewards, and all rewards for the game State of Survival should be updated

[slow thicket]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[tardy night]

They had a poll to remove events...was FF on it?

[vale yoke]

Yessir it was. I mentioned that earlier

That it was on the surveys, particularly that first one with the weird ranking. But it had no context, so if people were ranking FF because of the rewards, the devs had nowhere people could note that.

Instead they just got the results of FF being ranked as a poor event.

We have almost, what, four years of feedback here of people saying FF rewards need updating, they're irrelevant, but very few comparatively saying to remove the actual event.

They wanna act funny, that's okay. I've been told I can be funny too.

Wanna hear a joke?

State of Survival

[knotty storm]

🙈🙈🙈🙈🙈 the survey where they listed only the f2p events?

[vale yoke]

The one where you had to click the pictures and stuff and it was all weird? Months ago? That one

I think it's showed up on a couple others as well, but again, not with any real space to discuss that it's the REWARDS

[knotty storm]

😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨😮‍💨

[tardy night]

there was one done just 2 weeks or three back, asked which events to remove specifically.

Included svs too in the list of options

[vale yoke]

Yep I remember that one as well

God almost forgot Chek

The SvS thing

Can I have some of what they're puffing on?

Even if it's just really nice oxygen

Momma needs a head rush to cope

[tardy night]

This

[vale yoke]

A lot of those also showed up in the previous surveys as well

[tardy night]

It doesn't have ff 🤔

[vale yoke]

This one (note, not my picture. Credit goes to Cerb, who had originally uploaded this into the server when this survey was around)

I couldn't find my picture of this, thankful there was one in the server

That was in April, and it's almost August, so yeah, it matches the devs time frame for shenanigans and bad decisions

[tardy night]

217 participants 💀

[vale yoke]

I don't think those were the final numbers, but I do remember the participants being low

But this is what I mean when I say there's no context. To the devs, they see this saying FF should be removed, but not why it's being ranked poorly in this.

They just see it as an obsolete event overall. It's not. The rewards are obsolete. The event has utility and is one of the few that people still do after years of playing - even if it's just for the buffs

Because god knows those purple frags aren't bringing the boys to the yard.

So anyone else who has won camp cafe, gotten your dev chat yet?
I'm thinking about starting a support group.

But no, seriously, it's coming up to a year. Is this a breach of contract?

Ooh! Meme idea.

[tardy night]

Lb wasn't from cafe either right?

[vale yoke]

Nope

Lb was a different interview outside of cafe

[tardy night]

Pity they don't have a global messaging system for players.

[vale yoke]

I've just realized, in making this meme, I have to reuse one of my old sos memes.

Whomp whomp

[cloud ridge]

Its not really a good reflection though on what the good and bad of the events are.

Some of them are good but boring, some are bad but good rewards or news updates rewards. Some have bad times zones etc.

It's nice to see, but needs a lot more of the context and perspective behind it

Not like they'll listen to it, I love ff fights for the first occ crate, how I get my troop and heal speeds, relos, march accels and buffs are nice sure.

All they had to do was update rewards and increase rallie player capacity for FF only to say 40

[vale yoke]

I completely agree, and instead of just asking people to rank events, or just list which ones they like/don't like, there's no context behind the reasoning.
If they had actually engaged in discussions with the community, they could have made more conscientious decisions regarding this. Not just "ope FF is prolly going bye bye"

I have some opinions of what needs to go bye bye, and it's a good portion of the people making these development choices - even if they were just hired in the last couple years (especially then).

Note that I said the ones making the development choices, not the ones coding it.

Big difference between who's actually doing this work versus who is telling them and training them to do it.

[cloud ridge]

Let's take showdown, you just sign up and that's it. Basically a few seconds and events done for 99% of people, only R4s who deal with it with moving lanes will spend more time there. Rest wait for rewards

Travis event is great for backpack rewards, it's just effort having to send to infected

Treasure quest I'm assuming is the migo digs, again takes a few seconds to do and done. The event itself isn't great just easy, rewards are alright I guess with the better chests

[vale yoke]

In other news, some of the people who have worked on a much larger, established, historically lucrative MMO are actively working to unionize.
Wouldn't it be interesting if other actual creatives and coders within the industry also banded together to protect their job security and establish basic rights for workers within the game industry amidst layoffs and AI replacements?

Gosh, how... Revolutionary.

[cloud ridge]

Crystal mine is questionable lol, surprised it's not last place and on fire

[vale yoke]

[vale yoke]

I dig treasure quest because it gives stuff like MIGO items, hero gen frags, glory, mixed in with other stuff. It's a nice grab bag for two minutes of watching Frank run with his helmet

I get a kick out of the little antenna on top when it pings, it's actually kind of adorable

[cloud ridge]

It is cute to be fair lol, it's alright but the event isn't anything special, not even sure I'd count it as an event to be honest

[vale yoke]

Travis, I agree. The rewards are fine, and if people choose to use Travis and do single marches, it can take forever. But those rucksacks are legit and can really help.

I don't count TQ as an event. It's more like .. an instance

I guess

Because it's specifically tied to MIGO, and is a daily task, I just view it as a MIGO instance. It's not really long enough to class as its own thing, even though it has an event page and such.

In terms of time investment versus reward, it's a pretty good thing though

[patent olive]

DELETE ALL IDIOTIC PAYWALL EVENTS THAN DELETING BUNKER

[vale yoke]

Whoa

Hey Bocchi. Big fan of caps lock and bold today too, but that was loud for my eyes

Definitely agree with the vibes though

[patent olive]

Yes, I feel frustrated paywalls event didnt even get deleted almost 2 years 😦

[vale yoke]

That's exactly what we're all talking about here is how it came about and what the issue really is, alternatives, etc.

The paywall are ridiculous. We were able to get f2p friendly task bars for some of them, but there's still entirely too many

Brb, gotta notify my peeps, rr in an hour

[wide wraith]

i would rather they get rid of Throwdown

[karmic widget]

Get rid of something that still gives decent rewards, although some need updating in some areas.
Exactly what we asked for 🙄 clowns!!!

So how else we getting healing speed ups or advanced locaters 🙄

[vale yoke]

Don't ask questions you know the answers to

They expect people to buy them

In some fashion, in some space or another

[tardy night]

If nexus come back, healing speeds gonna be in packs for sure

[patent olive]

I put events that I will blacklisted and I wish those stupid events didnt exist 100%

• Hidden Treasures
• Star Ascension (Claw Machine ver.)
• Star Ascension (Star version)
• Journey of Surprises
• Dig Em Up
• Lucky Ferris Wheel

[lime zealot]

But amount of real whales, those who just BUY everything, cant be high
Bunch of top players combines investing and playing, without extremism in both.
In theory extremely devoted f2p who skips nothing should be able to catch up with time

[forest kiln]

It's mean feedback going to nowhere, because every month one of the most rated feedbacks are about upgrading rewards for plague zone, bunkers and all other old events

[forest kiln]

Blissful bags too, since we cant do anything with that 3 keys, which recycled every time in the end

[vale yoke]

I have to wonder if it's because the people who originally worked on those were already cycled to another title years ago, and now no one knows how to update rewards without breaking them further. So they just think "meh, we'll get rid of them".

[patent olive]

Dont dare to claim 3 Bliss keys let them in rewards stash, I never claimed it for first blissful bags pass
So 2nd blissful bags can claim 3 keys
In total 6 keys

[tardy night]

Catching up to a static point? Or a ceiling which is constantly rising.

You can plot this easily to know that f2p to low spending players will never get any catching up. Simple reason. Each month brings more stats than what is devalued to be obtained freely within a feasible time frame. There are paywalled items you can never grind such as Anjelica

And rate of inflation of paid stats is always higher than rate of obtaining prior stats. Progress through grinding is false hope in this game. You can grind 24 hours. You will never catch up.

[vale yoke]

Chek, are you explaining the power gap?

Lol

Dang, too fast, answered my question

[karmic widget]

Don’t remove this. Modify the keys F2P get. Some bits are good for low / mid spenders in this

[forest kiln]

Same thoughts. If take as example how long for them took change smthing in Epic Hero search, 100% sure they dont know how to change old events without totally trashing them, because non of developers from initial team work for SOS now

[forest kiln]

I just want for them stop recycling keys.

[distant gull]

Here its

@forest kiln

[karmic widget]

Thats too

[vale yoke]

We don't even have people who worked on events from last year

[tardy night]

I wonder why folks don't know this, a person gets 500% increments on avg every month, another gets 100 at best, and the 500 by year end becomes 1k cuz power creep, while the one getting 100% stat increment is still grinding away to get to 200% avg gains.

Catching up isn't built into the system at all. It's more of goats being fattened before the slaughter.

[vale yoke]

Because people still think this is a game, like .. an actual game

[forest kiln]

It's game... game name "Stroke your ego, buy Lamborghini for developers"🤣

[vale yoke]

People still think there is linear progression, clear mechanics, and a way to "win".
This is not something people ever win. There is no actual ceiling for this game. No one wins except the company.

House rules

The House Always Wins

[tardy night]

In this, only the house wins. 🤣

[daring sapphire]

6 keys is not much, I'm not sure if you can get smth with them

[karmic widget]

Lowest prize bracket

[daring sapphire]

ah, cool

[tepid rivet]

Some kind of new improvement? Will those give us speedups and buffs like bunkers do? 🤔

[vale yoke]

I thought we've had those

[opaque spear]

Those have been around a while. They may have just opened in your state though. They’re tougher than the basics.

[lime zealot]

Fair enough, they are rising ceiling too fast for f2p to catch up even with extreme devotion, but in general f2p with good strategy can prevail, as long as developer has brain and doesnt rush to give illusion of possilbility 😂

[forest kiln]

Wow, 4 years later "new" states finally got same amount of silver for alliance donation. We need to wait another 4 years for them finally catch up about AC?

[torpid gazelle]

The discussion needs to come up again. Let’s stop adding new stuff to the game if it’s going to flood old events with lag and cause it to not be playable. Also might help to not have legions 1&2 playing at the same time from alliance. Another thought use all the money you are making from this game to upgrade your servers. Rr is completely unplayable and I just had to sit there and take probably 20 hits from the same person, because of all the info popping off across my screen.

[fiery basin]

hey mad hunter, if you want you can make a feedback about this in #📋︱feedback-reporting with a guide provided in #📋︱feedback-how-to or i can assist you and create the feedbacks on your behalf.

i actually think the legion 1 & 2 not being at the same time is a good idea! since i think one of the biggest reasons for Players to go into seperate legions is probably time zone

[torpid gazelle]

Yes something needs to be looked at, because my side of the game is working fine now that rr is over. I’ll type something up later.

[slow thicket]

for small alliances its often players with farms that have same hours for legion 1 and 2.

[tardy night]

I'll sound pessimistic so I'll cite numbers.

The maxed spenders of their first game are at 1.8 million % after 8 years.

The best f2p, who spend 5+ hours daily in game, are at 500 to 550k. They had to literally implement a handicap in the game where each hit cannot do damage above a certain acceptable level per hq level. Cuz people lost 1 billion+ power in solos 5 years back.

There's a reason mods are told to delete all their former games' discussions.

There's no "prevailing". They decide a tier you can be based on cumulative and current spending. The rest of the casino is geared towards making sure crap flows downhill.

That's the "fun" they sell. Crapping downhill.

Let me know if you wish to talk to any of those f2p.

[slow thicket]

someone has some stats from whales from Sos just to cry a bit 😅 ?

[distant gull]

This is why SOS Android isn't clearer as PC ver...

Tested with Lenovo laptop and Galaxy S9 as Samsung DeX

[cloud ridge]

those are pointless, just a waste of stam

[stable cosmos]

PZs are a kinda fun mechanic. But for the amount of stamina spent the prizes are trash. Hit a lvl1 once if you want the daily task. They used to be a thing for farming alloys but thats only for early red gear adopters. People waiting on the designs will have more than enough alloys when they reach red

[livid pond]

Hey cyan would a change in rewards maybe make it more fun or "worth" the amount of stamina or do you want just the stamina reduced?
If you want you can type up a feedback regarding that in our #📋︱feedback-reporting or if you want i can assist you and do it for you

[cloud ridge]

Should already be a PZ rewards update feedback from god knows when, been asked so much alongside other events

[amber linden]

Have 697 in our migo at our first migo season in the big pool after the gen skip can’t wait for AD 😅

[livid pond]

Very true Duck, there is older feedback but since it's been a while it would be more effective to type it up again. 🤗

[stable cosmos]

It shouldn't be required. If the company was listening to these they'd have a list of our requests and would
A: have assigned an importance rating to them and
B: be slowly working through them
If they're doing neither they are incompetent, which we all know anyway and i don't see why we should do their job for them unpaid

[distant gull]

Galaxy S9 on Desktop Mode 1920x1080 and SoS PC ver. 1920x1080 and for PC ver more clearer than Android 😳

[vernal patrol]

Nice new text to further the story.

[stable anvil]

Lol

Some very strong and moving words

[cloud ridge]

By far my favourite migo storyline

[olive sluice]

another week with over f... 30+ events!

These devs are soo ..... !

This is no fun anymore

[vernal patrol]

And no trucks anymore?

[olive sluice]

as if they would reduce a single event... of course trucks are still there

[charred swift]

Was just about to post same 🤣

[olive sluice]

That's a new low in NO TESTING

[vale yoke]

When I tell you I just outright wheezed so friggin hard

[olive sluice]

This whole MIGO will be full uf bugs and crap again.. another NESUXXX

[vale yoke]

I also took screenshots lol

Nah, we get duels

They nixed nexus

[olive sluice]

I mean it will suck like NESUX

[vale yoke]

Oh, well that's a given

gestures at game
I mean ...

[olive sluice]

I feel like closing the game and never open it again.. just because of that many events. And the bugs.

[cloud ridge]

Well

Least we have alliance mine

Do we know if the conversion rates are still shafted?

[olive sluice]

does it even matter? If not, they found another way to f.. us

[thorny hornet]

What galaxy brain came up with the light text on light background combo for SOTF screen?

[stable cosmos]

I was about to say. Hope thats just a gfx bug and not a design decision

[thorny hornet]

i already know i am old. i don't need the game giving me eye exams to hammer the point home for me

[wooden dew]

Hi tomfoolery, I agree - there needs to be better contrast on that screen. To my knowledge it wasn’t like that before, for most (if not all) earlier versions of SotF. Not sure the change now, but it should definitely be reverted, imo. Thanks for pointing that out. I’ll forward it.

[coarse verge]

So 1000 plus states have both T12 , P15 and G2 and G3 TA

I think at least the dev. Can do is to update the bundles as they did in old states

@merry scroll Crystals should be added to bundles as hope feast and plasma should be cheaper

Because even if they cleared the bundles, we just finished P13 and no one has unlimited plasma

[cloud ridge]

Probably, but helps me plan ahead

[olive sluice]

just another proof of NO TESTING done

[fallow lodge]

rays place not on events board for tomorrow

[untold stag]

103 skills in exploration project vs the 100 last season.

[cloud ridge]

They added more with new skills

[fallow lodge]

yeah they worried we all reach 100, but its them new added thing skills

[olive sluice]

Why do the devs hate us so much? 😭

[fallow lodge]

there bald, short, buck teeth and have no friends probably

[untold stag]

2 of the 3 look like they could be reasonably useful.

[olive sluice]

Maybe they get high on thousands of feedbacks hearing us crying and begging for less buggy untested crap and less events in general, and then slapping another "event" at us? Maybe a <@&555639728632758272> can answer this question?

[fallow lodge]

mines would be usefull midway or at beginning

[tardy night]

Place alliance mine

[olive sluice]

did anyone already check which mine we'll unnecessarily have to fight for this time?

[pallid willow]

Why game so disgustingly laggy

[untold stag]

Artifact chests?

[marble grove]

Just saw the same 🤣

Gen 4 TA?

[tardy night]

Exclusive ta

Not really gen 4. Since only 3 people will have them per zone :-?

[marble grove]

TA3.5

[thorny hornet]

those are item_artifacts_red_all_choice_chest_name chests that give item_artifacts_red_all_choice_chest_des items

[tardy night]

Those are good to identify who is half a million+ into the game 🤣

[stable cosmos]

At least the sotf contrast fixed itself after i swapped to new gfx to find out which hero was resilience

[dusty hull]

Why can't you give more than 50 HQ skins to the top alliances in Alliance Duel? Alliances are up to 100 people, not 50. It makes no sense to put a limit on 50, all it does is create tension

[pallid willow]

My eyes 🙄

[wooden dew]

Hi Monroeville, I agree - the fact that the top 3 ranked alliances are only able to get the HQ skin for 50 out or 100 of their members doesn’t make much sense to me, especially considering there are 6 states in the bracket (and by extension 6 top alliances with many active members). That limit would be more reasonable for alliances ranked 4-10 imo, which suffers from the same issue with only the top20 out of 100 getting the HQ skin. All of the cutoffs could do with tweaks. Thanks for sharing that. I’ll forward it.

[stable cosmos]

I swapped to new gfx and back then it fixed itself

[little remnant]

Hello. No in game support. Hangar has not worked since it unlocked. Who the heck do I report it to? Bug bot tells me to report it in game but can't

[tidal apex]

They contradict so many things in this game... Alliance is for 100 people and yet maximum 60 can play RR and KOTH so 40 people cant even finish basic migo tasks 🤣 The event you mentioned is the same, half of the alliance is left with nothing for their effort.

Is it so hard to make it possible to register 3 legions for events for example? That way only 10 people would be left unable to attend and it is often that 10-15 people have something going on and could not attend anyway due to other plans.

Of course it differs in every alliance but here is the thing- You could choose if you want 1, 2 or 3 legions so if you dont need another team nothing changes for you but fully alive alliances would surely be happy to have that option.

[stable cosmos]

Think that was raised 3 migos ago. It would even give a bigger matching pool. Results, nothing done.

[lucid yew]

Was this supposed to reset on third stage? I had bought the sketch pass

At least thats not how it worked before

[north schooner]

Makes total sense to reward G18 hero capsules as reward for G19 hero development task, even twice !! Stelar quality control.

[unreal lichen]

Hey Hartsa, Yes this reset in every stage so you need to buy it again for the 3rd stage.