📋︱feedback-discussion

[wide wraith]

the different groupings were the main problem with it, if you were in a younger state, you didnt get the same rewards as those in the old states. even if you won your division

[woven spire]

please make them recycleable again

maddie even have 1500+

[wide wraith]

we dont even have Maddie to limitless yet lol

[woven spire]

also these frags

why we cant recycle?

[woven spire]

would gladly give all away but cant lol

[rain swallow]

I wanted to recycle my Maddie frags too

my purple frags too

[wide wraith]

it just goes to show they have no idea what they are doing

[rain swallow]

Does anyone still do intel exploration I say...someone from the old states😂

[woven spire]

Nope

I just do zombies

[wide wraith]

only because they are in the dailies and it means i can go do something else

[unkempt sun]

Sameeee

[rain swallow]

yes, useless, I did it for a long time thinking that those cool recycling events would come back, until I realized that they are busy thinking about how to make money😬

[unkempt sun]

I just do the quick zombies and only if required for MIGO

Yes I need desperately those recycling events I am waiting

[rain swallow]

the last time there was one in our state I was still worried about the badges plaques, it was a long time ago😂

[wide wraith]

last time their was one it included hero gear, them after people recycled a lot they brought out the rally enhancement stuff, so i am very careful now of the things i recycle

[rain swallow]

😂

[unkempt sun]

True... I've regretted recycling a bit of stuff I naively gave up

There must be hoarders out there 🤣🤣

[rain swallow]

strategy😂

[unkempt sun]

That too

[wide wraith]

cant repeat here what i said lol

[unkempt sun]

🤣🤣

[rain swallow]

I still recycle a lot when it comes to ticket boxes, especially in circuit repair, which by the way would have been a thousand times better than this new event now 👀

[unkempt sun]

I got frustrated when they doubled the requirements for the circuit repair so I don't really do them that often now

[unkempt sun]

Yes I've seen a lot of feedback regarding this event

[rain swallow]

true, but that hero appointment service badge gives a lot of points, I always save it for this event, my hero appointment is completely late 😂

gold frags would also work, but you can't use them in these new generations🥺

[wide wraith]

i give up with most events now as i am close to max chief gear and hero gear done not many badges left, research all done except crystal and still only a P10

[rain swallow]

we never stop wasting plasma, horrible🥲

[potent peak]

My feedback on Survival Royale is as follow - As ever, KG makes the baffling decision to ruin the event for no reason. Who exactly asked for it to change from 40 players to 30? Whoever they are, they are idiots. The event was just fine with 30 people but of course if KG left it alone, that would actually make sense which is not something KG likes to do

[wide wraith]

we still only have 20 in SR

[tame jackal]

fun plu$ hate old states

maybe because in new ones they make more money

[gusty dove]

they hate old state because noone in FP can remember what materials are still needed in those states.
Thats why they still give us hero gear as rewards 😏

[unkempt sun]

We actually already have this feedback, if you'd like, please upvote it to get more visibility. It can be found here: #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[tame lintel]

Yeah...I was thinking of something else😅

Pow. Maybe

[still tapir]

Yeah I think you were thinking of PoW tourney.

[tame jackal]

At least hero gear I can recycle, but the best rewards are these

[unreal lichen]

You're a well experienced player it seems.

[stable cosmos]

About 1 year in to any state those should be replaced. Them and chief XP. You don't need them for very long

[fleet idol]

ill take em lol

[humble spear]

Yeah and nice that we also can recycle VIP points for rss☺️

[slim walrus]

Pleas dont recycle them at the moment. We have the first hints that VIP 13 will come...

[humble spear]

Sure I will not, btw thanks for the info

[slim walrus]

You are welcome

[digital glacier]

Power of gems is hilarious.
It will blow most people's minds on how bad this is in reality. And maybe help players understand why march bp is not an important factor in determining much of anything.
Let's begin.
42468 bp - Lethality gem level 3 with a 3.64% lethality bonus
42294 bp - Lethality gem level 3 with a 3.62% lethality bonus
That equals 87 bp per additional 0.01% lethality

So level 3 lethality gem without a bonus skill is 10800 bp

Here is where it gets fun.
10800 bp Level 3 lethality gem 16%
3600 bp Level 2 lethality gem 11%
1200 bp level 1 lethality gem 7%

Level 3 to level 2 has 18 per 0.01%
Level 2 to level 1 has 6 bp per 0.01%

Why does it change.
Oh
Here's why.
3 level 1 = level 2.
3 × 1200 bp (level 1) = level 2 bp
9 level 1 = level 3
9 × 1200 bp (level 1) =10800 bp
How sos maths.
BP does not equal stat %. And this is why, march bp is not relevant 😘

In other words.
1 level 1 lethality gems in all 3 buildings = 21% lethality and a march bp of 3600.
1 level 2 lethality gem in 1 building = 11% lethality and a march bp of 3600.

Whose stronger. 🤣

[astral stratus]

You lost me somewhere in all the numbers

[digital glacier]

Ok. How about this. You like cake?

[astral stratus]

My heart says yes, my hips no

[digital glacier]

You buy 3 identical cakes. Each cake has 1200 calories.

You with me still?

[astral stratus]

Yus

[digital glacier]

You smush all the cakes together to make 1 big cake.
That's 3600 calories.
You with me still?

[astral stratus]

Yus

[digital glacier]

Ok. Good.

At the store. Each small cake cost $10 that's $30 right?

[astral stratus]

nodding

[digital glacier]

At the store. You see an identical version (of your smushed together cake) for $25

Seems logical right, in the real world. Right?

[astral stratus]

Totally can happen

[digital glacier]

Calories = bp
$ = stats

Mind blown huh 🤣

[astral stratus]

Let me read that above with calories and $

Yikes

Swear to dog!

And first time I understood kg math

There's math and KG math out there

[tame lintel]

Your forgetting 1 important factor...

Desire.
Fat people like cake more. And will pay more

[astral stratus]

Thats kinda like how they multiply lucky tickets its against any mathematical law

[digital glacier]

They always use "current multiplier as 1" which is a lie to their description of the event.

[tame lintel]

Nah. Cause they don't care about calories..they just want a big cake😅

[astral stratus]

Honestly? 7 of 8 times I dont know what I even do in game.
I gave up on understanding a lot. I just see either green arrows or red arrows

[digital glacier]

( 1 × multiplier) + ( 1 × multiplier) = multiplier

[tame lintel]

Most do

[astral stratus]

But thank you for explaining it Mufasa!! Really appreciated

[digital glacier]

Yeah. And this is how sos screws players when bp = migration rating = transfer tickets.

More bp, less stats. Higher cost than less bp, more stats

[woven spire]

Isnt it rating now?

Pure strenght

Well most people need 45 anyway

With all the festures they pushed even f2p needs 45

Lol so 5bil is auto 45😂

Wasnt it like 4.5 score is max?

[digital glacier]

5,000,000,000 troops bp = 25,000,000 migration rating
5,000,000,000 gems bp = 5,000,000,000 migration rating

[woven spire]

Oh i see what you mean

[full rampart]

Since they added some features in the calculus is not purely bp based anymore 🙈

[digital glacier]

It's based on bp 🙄

[full rampart]

In our state the biggest players bp based requires less ticket that top 5

And the bp is like 2b between them

But he stopped spending so he doesn’t have most of the new features

[thorn axle]

Mufasa you have degree in maths by any chance? 🤣

My next question is why don’t you

[stable cosmos]

Bp is also abitrary according to my gold tank which is about 10% points lower everywhere than my purple but with 1-2 upgrades will be a higher bp again. Despite still being dog💩

I need to log that one but i dunno how to phrase it...

[digital glacier]

Degree = $ or, dirty deeds to professor. 🤣
I dont have the money, and unless my professor is decent looking, and willing to go for an average looking person like me, I'm not getting a degree 🤣

[thorn axle]

Right back to migrations rating 🤣🤣

[full rampart]

Do you want us to submit a feedback

[digital glacier]

Migration rating is a weighted scale of bp of different categories

[stable cosmos]

Not unless you can phrase it clearly

[full rampart]

We can try 🙈

[stable cosmos]

Its more of a bug than a feedback too as i have no idea how they're doing the bp calc for tanks

[thorn axle]

In terms of comparing the bp transfer system and the migration transfer system, which would you say it more beneficial for players

[stable cosmos]

For me at least its a pain cos it chucks it on my main march when its worse. Pita

[full rampart]

I wish I could help but here I didn’t understand aswell..I noticed the same related to pink/purple and gold ones

[olive sluice]

old migration points formula: Troops BP / 20, hero BP / 2, every other BP as it is... add all together.
But they promised to lower the troops BP this time, so maybe it will be /25 or /30?

[thorn axle]

No one saw my typo

But if you had to choose one

[stable cosmos]

I'd cap troop bp as a value that counts. They're just a vehicle for monkeys these days

[thorn axle]

Honestly I will leave this up to mufasas wiz mind 😂

[stable cosmos]

Got 7 marches of troops? Nothing else counts

[full rampart]

😂😂😂😂

[thorn axle]

Migration system worked better for me, if it was bp I needed 50 tickets, but migration only needed 45

Why did I know you were going to say or

[stable cosmos]

Troops are surprisingly useless when you get down to it.

[thorn axle]

My troops keep me going in rr

[stable cosmos]

From a bp perspective though they're more of a score marker than a power level

[olive sluice]

Troops are so useless because most don't fight when you get hit by a whale, they just die
Otherwise they'd protect you from burning, but FunMinus hates non-whales..

They are useful in RR until you get hit by a whale with strong heroes out doing useful stuff..

[stable cosmos]

Fups idea of a good game is a button in the middle of the screen and all it does is send fup $10 when you press it

[steel musk]

3 hits then don't have inf left lol

in RR

[digital glacier]

10800 bp Level 3 lethality gem 16% = 6.75 bp per 0.01%
3600 bp Level 2 lethality gem 11% = 3.2727 bp per 0.01%
1200 bp level 1 lethality gem 7% =
1.7142 bp per 0.01%

Why does it change.
Here's why.
3 level 1 = level 2.
3 × 1200 bp (level 1) = level 2 bp
9 level 1 = 3 level 2 = 1 level 3
9 × 1200 bp (level 1) = 3 × 3600 bp (level 2) = 10800 bp

BP does not equal stats and this is why not only is march bp irrelevant, but also why migration system is completely messed up

[full rampart]

Do you guys like the new talents system for RR?

[thorn axle]

Unless I have my 2 main marches out I’m not burnable my joiner marches are always my third and fourth March

[full rampart]

You are a little whale 🐋

[thorn axle]

A dolphin

[full rampart]

Musafa makes me wonder how I passed my maths exams 🥲

[thorn axle]

My brain is not mathing because of my headache but I will definitely be coming back to this tomorrow

[olive sluice]

same, but often I need those 2 marches to rally.. then I'm wood 🙄

[astral stratus]

Read it with calories and $

[thorn axle]

🤣🤣🤣

[astral stratus]

Start here Fear

[full rampart]

Everything makes sense when we talk about cakes

[thorn axle]

A cake analogy, this should be fun 😂 lemme read it

Fun fact before I run away by scrolling up, cake is not good

[olive sluice]

Cookies?

[full rampart]

Why when you say it with 3cakes all was so easy

[thorn axle]

My mind is blown

[thorn axle]

10/10

3 smushed cakes = 3600 bp and 30 stats, but identical is still 3600bp and 25 stats

Did I get that right

[stable cosmos]

When its not about pie it doesn't work

[full rampart]

Cakes and pies and I’m hungry at midnight 😂🙈

[full rampart]

I’m still thinking of a way to put into words your feedback 🥹

[olive sluice]

I'll eat a cake now.. 😋

[sand basalt]

🍰

[worldly sable]

I feel judged by how I eat my cake

[astral stratus]

[sand basalt]

let them see and enjoy the dessert

[stable cosmos]

This implies design. I used to mess with a fighting game creation engine and balancing your stuff took time and effort. You couldn't chuck numbers at the wall and go "hey good enough" you had to play about or every attack wound up being an infinite combo or one hit KO

[worldly sable]

How did you know 🥲

and I do have ice cream with it

[stable cosmos]

Its just 💵 💵

[sand basalt]

well, some kind of cakes and situations don't need the use of forks, spoons and hands

it's a very good point! perfect for chitchatting #🧟︱general

[digital glacier]

Can there please be a bugs report for "test state" because this feedback makes it sound like it's an issue in the entire game, when it's in fact an issue for the test states testing the new battle report design.

Im not in a test state and My battle reports don't have visual bug regarding behemoths.

Can sos stop using live server states as test states.
That's what PTR is for. 🙄

That would negate the need to have another channel for bugs / feedback reporting for test states. Because it would be game wide.

[sand basalt]

You/we can open a feedback for that, why not, #📋︱feedback-reporting is there for that

Need my help in that?

[digital glacier]

First post isn't game feedback.
That's a discord organization feedback.
2nd post, it's been mentioned 4 years now, it's really a waste to type it at all tbh, even more to have to submit it in a proper format and get voted on etc to be considered top 10 to be discussed in developer feedback. 🤣

If it did make top 10, that's just taking away something that's actually more important to have discussed than why sos has such a horrible business practice and waste time with ptr if they're not even going to use it for what it's worth is.

[sand basalt]

i got your observation, you are allowed to submitted, i meant that

[mighty gorge]

Must be mod humour mufasa 😂

[sand basalt]

i suggest an ice cream instead

[mighty gorge]

I understand your frustration.

Would you like me to help you write some feedback about that?

I'm just a player too

[thorn axle]

I feel so violated

[winter canyon]

🤔

[thorn axle]

Actually I dislike cake

[mighty gorge]

Can you please take this to #🧟︱general

🤣

[formal nacelle]

I heard about cakes, someone called me? 🙈

[thorn axle]

Only if you follow me there

[sand basalt]

yes Goddess, we are opening a bakery tasting

[formal nacelle]

By the way is a very nice chat here but we should move to https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/925533851005112330 😋

[mighty gorge]

Please..lol, you're killing me here 😆

[thorn axle]

Left me hanging fr

[formal nacelle]

Like Mister said

[mighty gorge]

It was sarcasm sadly Goddess.

[winter canyon]

I like cakes

[mighty gorge]

Red Velvet Cake?

I'm surprised that's not part of feeding frenzy, cake.

I know how Young Guard loves that event

[sand basalt]

#🧟︱general red velvet, as Goddess reminds

[thorn axle]

Feeding frenzy should be deleted and ima post something about it

[winter canyon]

I hate feeding frenzy... it's a scam event

Who knows🤷🏼‍♀️

[formal nacelle]

I like Feeding Frenzy, but is imposible to complete, I don't play it never

[mighty gorge]

You could argue that AD has all troop losses recovered, just like RR and MM so why doesn't SvS

[thorn axle]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Hope you like how I@mentioned the stickers mr c 😂😂

Let’s pretend I have nitro for a second, 😞 🤣

Oh it put a random emoji. Nvm

[mighty gorge]

Jdheu3hdbbdjisjrj Stickers.

[thorn axle]

I think mr liked my feedback so much he smacked his keyboard out of joy

[mighty gorge]

Ohh I just read it lol.

I had sticker rage for a moment

[digital glacier]

Who needs nitro when you can borrow all the nitro animations 🤣

[formal nacelle]

For sticker rage, feel free on https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/926159609130008586 😁

[winter canyon]

100% recovery for SvS would be nice

[stable cosmos]

I love match 3 games and feeding frenzy really scratches that particular addiction. But there is no way it should be inside sos. Its not at all related to the game its just this weird attachment. The fact that its impossible to complete without money just makes fup look bad, not that they needed extra help with that

[astral stratus]

Same its so silly to fall for that trap but I refuse to pay for winning level 2

[winter canyon]

Feeding frenzy is the worst match 3 game I've ever played for sure

[formal nacelle]

As I said, I feel the same, and a good feedback on this would be nice

[nova jetty]

I have yet to win that game ..

[wide wraith]

not that the Devs would take any notice

[stable cosmos]

I don't need to win for my brain to do the happy chemicals as i match 3 tiles.

[unreal lichen]

I'm awesome at it. I beat level 1 every time. Never lost once.

🤓

[upbeat dew]

level 1

[stable cosmos]

Would like to find someone who managed to lose level 1. Its the opposite of level 2

[full rampart]

Hello Cyan! One of my comods tried to put into wording the feedback we were trying before

would you like to see and tell us if is what you are trying to say?

[stable cosmos]

Oh you can have a go. Its not a very feedbackable problem though

[full rampart]

I’ll let her post it here to see your opinion as she was the one writing it 😊

[stable cosmos]

I'd call it a bug, but its obviously behaving as intended and theres a mess behind it

[full rampart]

It affects everyone but I suppose not everyone minds it

[stable cosmos]

They ought to as it literally affects your main march and your barricade

And there is a decent difference between 2% lethality and 16%

[full rampart]

For sure… and I had it in the second March for a week 🥲

Because when I unlocked it was lower than the pink one

[stable cosmos]

I fixed it by upgrading the purple a few more times to bring the bp up, but it should be correct in the first place and i don't know how to phrase "fup your bp here is wrong and i don't know whats in the backend to give you a sensible suggestion on fixing your stupidity" so its actually a suggestion. Fix it isn't useful in my book

[full rampart]

She has a great wording for it 🙈😂

[hidden stream]

Hello, Cyan. It's just really interesting to know if that's what you meant. Correct us if something is wrong:

Despite the fact that the stats of golden tank can be currently worse than the stats of the purple one (by about 10% points, for example), the battle power is higher.

Consequence: 
On the main march, tanks are puted depending on Whose battle power is higher. Accordingly, in this case, a tank with lower statistics is automatically puted on the main march. What's more: battle power is taken into account in many events, and such BP calculations cannot but lead to an unfair outcome of the event (Including matchmaking). 

Suggestion: 
Revise Tank Battle Power calculations: bp should be based on statistics, not on the type of tank. 

State number:
All states. 

A similar problem is noticed not only with tanks, but also with heroes, for example (the statistics are worse, but bp is higher). So I think it would be really helpful to point this out in a feedback. And thank you for giving such a great idea

[digital glacier]

I couldn't submit my poem 😔

[cloud ridge]

I'm loving the new content

[full rampart]

Helloo Musafa! Do you want me to try to do it for you?

[full rampart]

This looks like a bug 🙈

[stable cosmos]

Almost. Puted isn't a word, placed is what you're looking for. This also affects garrison in your HQ and makes a difference as a joiner or lead. The description needs to be clearer too and if you do submit or if i steal it, itll need to pictures to go with it

These 2. An important extra point is the skill on the purple tank at level 2 is the same as the skill on the gold and this cannot be a justification for higher bp either

[amber sleet]

STOP the tempest arms banners, FFS.

[stark current]

31 ascensions and still nothing better than 3.6M 😒

[hidden stream]

Your words make sense, I like it, thanks
And... I just added your phrases to the feedback and it really looks better

Despite the fact that the stats of golden tank can be currently worse than the stats of the purple one, its battle power is higher. You can see an example in the screenshot (an important extra point is the skill on the purple tank at level 2 is the same as the skill on the gold and this cannot be a justification for higher bp either) 

Consequence: 
On the main march, tanks are places depending on Whose battle power is higher. Accordingly, in this case, a tank with lower statistics is automatically places on the main march. This also affects garrison in your HQ and makes a difference as a joiner or lead. What's more: battle power is taken into account in many events And such BP calculations Cannot but lead to an unfair outcome of the event (Including matchmaking). 

Suggestion: 
Revise Tank Battle Power calculations: bp should be based on statistics, not on the type of tank. 

State number:
All states. 

You may be able to improve the feedback even further. And also, I can post it for you, or you might post it aswell if you wish~

[hidden stream]

Hello, Viral, I understand your frustration about this. This thing seems to be affecting more people as i saw a feedback made here #📋︱feedback-reporting message
Be free to upvote this~

[cloud ridge]

Bug = content

[serene turtle]

Most definitely. It feels like they’re taunting those who only get common ones like I do. It’s getting stupid how bad my luck is with them.

[thorny plume]

Have they nerfed Tempest gear ?

Ive just made and upgraded 150 pieces and getting nothing worth Ascension

[serene turtle]

Yes. I have only 3 above 500 out of 40 crafted.

[thorny plume]

I dont upgrade all the way if carp

But you dont sell any yellow daldos id you nerf the drop rate like this... Just saying, you dumb funplus

And getting 9/10 same more then once when doing spins is so unlikely, it shows how bad you are at rng

Flip a threesided coin 10 times and show me 9 tails more then once

Your useless

[stable cosmos]

TA annoys me so much. Giant gacha. Wish it was more "here are the set percentages you can earn, here are the set skills" randomise out of that. Not randomise which you get AND how good it is

[serene turtle]

They think they’re going to make us spend more because we’re getting rubbish ones.

[thorny plume]

Its utterly useless if you cant get ONE Single ok roll on 150 makes

[stable cosmos]

If you earn behemoth damage then no matter what its 16% or whatever. None of this could be 2% could be 20%

[thorny plume]

I went f2p but now im about to uninstall

This is disgusting

Gj chasing away customers whoss spendt 50 60 k euro on a account, gj... 👌

[serene turtle]

They only want players who spend that per year on the game.

[thorny plume]

Utterly disgusting

Only good news is now I can soon buy one of the rerolls to reroll this excuse of a Ascension

[serene turtle]

I wouldn’t bother. I hear you only get the same type if you do so.

Games a massive con

[thorny plume]

Yea already told alliance im quitting now, so its a done deal

Greediest thing ive seen since ever

[raw breach]

You mean reforge essence?

Lol they do not let me post the negative comment on the reforge scam😆

[thorny plume]

What is the negative comment ?

All I know is, im done and this is how funplus will keep loosing players.

Two days ago i said fool me three times and shame on me, well fool me 4 times and even more shame on me

[raw breach]

Will try to not say any "curse words" not to get deleted again. So when you use the reforge essence you may get even worse ascension than previous. In my case power went down by 500k. So basically had to choose option keep the old set up. In the end waste of 4k recycle coin.

Still super mad about it.

[thorny plume]

Yes.. seems like what they do

👌 gj keeping paying customers.
Good news is i now have 10 k a year I can spend on other things

Like plastic bags. In Norway they are 50 cents each

Can buy 200 plastic bags every time I go to the store. Thats a better investment

[unreal lichen]

The sea turtles of the world would disagree.

[thorny plume]

Perhaps you could make one of those feedbacks and tell developers to get their acts straight

The lootbox stuff and falsely advertised probabilities etc are killing the game and at the same time their revenues. Im out, and im guessing alot others will do same

I wish them a hard downfall because thats what they deserve at this point.
The direction the game has taken is sickening

Stuff like this isnt supposed to happend time after time:

Their RNG suck

[steel musk]

better not use it or will get this 🤣

[thorny plume]

And the advertised probabilities is a scam, i did the math using formulas binomial probability mass function
1800 spins (and then I didnt even calculate in the freebies and the +1 on 10 spins) and landed on 67!!!! Percent of of the advertised resident hero shards probabilities.
And i removed the ones with low probabilities from my calculations and ran it twice, so 100 percent a scam.

That math isnt mathing. Natural distribution is natural distribution

[thorny plume]

So thats what you should focus on, not turtles.

[raw breach]

Ohh u lucky, only went down by 90K. Mine was minus 500k💩

[unreal lichen]

Well. With all your data perhaps you can post the actual odds?

Or pool with others?

Another option would be to ignore the posted odds and use the system as you see fit to upgrade your heros

[stable cosmos]

Can't use the system. Any system based purely on rng, and... adjusted rng as anything in sos did is an exercise in futility.

You can choose to take what you get, or you can rage against the machine. Or spend $2000 in the auction which is a different part of the system and PROBABLY illegal

Well, illegal for sos to have in game at least. Not illegal to use

[tidal apex]

I think they changed tempest arms propabilities few times already. When TA was first inteoduced people were getting quite a bit of really good pieces with all orange/red stats. Now having 2 orange is already rarity

[frigid vault]

They did the same with gems

[tidal apex]

Also I would advise to not invest anything into tempest arms now... They just said we will have new TA appearing, bet they will be better than current ones

[tidal apex]

Thats why I hate anything that is tied to rng because FP shown plenty of times they are completely untrustworthy and can change propabilities whenever they like

Like in free resident evil event gacha rolls... Had few weeks with maybe 2-3 fragments total from them, then it started working normally for a week or two giving me frags quite often only to once again suddenly revert to old no fragment policy 🤣

[frigid vault]

Same as ray's place, first day of the week always got lower chances and first few events will always give less fragments but before new heroes will release it will give better odds, although last Gen it didn't really gave any fragments at all with what they did there

But that was a known thing for 15 sets of heroes

[olive sluice]

I know some whales who spent 100-150k last year quit this year because of the Tempest Arms and other gambling crap 💸
Good job FunMinus! 👎
But they will never understand...

[stray acorn]

[sharp sun]

Just curious why SvS is always on a Saturday and why the times never change?? For Americans it begins at roughly 3/4/5 AM and seriously who wants to be awake at that time on a Saturday let alone if we have work that day???

Does Sunday not seem like the perfect day for a State vs State competition or am I crazy????

[olive sluice]

It's Gross'o'Clock for them

[frigid vault]

Your Sunday can be someone else Monday already but they definitely should have changed when this event begins 2 years ago instead of that they just make it shorter but keep at the same time

[heady anvil]

Hello, have a nice day, I see some suggestions here, let me know if you need anything

[stable cosmos]

Svs needs to bounce between times more. So does CC tbh. As someone on the bleeding edge of timezones though, not sunday. Aside from anything it would potentially encroach into RR and koth, and for a lot of people even encroaches into monday

[heady anvil]

Hello, I understand you very well. Would you like to make a feedback report on this topic?

[stable cosmos]

I would like people not to ask me if I'd like to make feedback topics please

[heady anvil]

oh...

[blissful merlin]

I am sorry about that Cyan, I was showing our new mod around and I was showing him this channel and had him ask you my sincere apologies. And I absolutely love the idea about different days and times

[stable cosmos]

Terrible timing there. I'm sorry. I'm not mean but i submit when i feel like it can or should make a difference and the mods are a bit overzealous with everything written

[peak apex]

Would you like to submit that as feedback?

[thorny plume]

Lol what

[peak apex]

running away as fast as my little legs can carry me

[thorny plume]

I brought up a issue where developers are actually breaking the game and why players are quitting and yesterday made the decision to quit with a account that has well over 8 million surpluss VIP in backpack.
That should say that some money had gone into the account.

And asked a mod to write up a feedback that goes to the developers adressing theese issues about faulty probabilities and the beings up the issue about scammy lootbox Tempest armor and the continuous adjustment or nerfing of "rng" and gets a "no" 😂

This is intended mechanics?

[peak apex]

A mod refused to submit your issue?

[thorny plume]

You know when enough spenders have quit, youll have to find another game to be mods in aswell ?

[thorny plume]

^

[peak apex]

Ok gimme a sec to read

They didnt say they wouldnt submit your feedback for you

Give me a moment, I do believe there has been stuff along that lines posted, lemme find it

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

Is this along the same lines?

There’s another here that’s similar

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[thorny plume]

Good, theres several issues. Its the scammy probabilities. Those are down right lies.
Its the 10/10 spins same Tempest gear
Its adjustment of gear values, now its so nerfed I got not one single gear not worthy of reprocessing on 150 new makes and i upgraded hjem all. That is terrible

[peak apex]

Yeah I don’t have much luck on them at all, I have a lot of least favourite features in the game, this is def one of them

[thorny plume]

Yea seems most them Tempest stuff is covered, upvoted those

[peak apex]

I can see if I can find a few more, I know it’s raised a lot

[thorny plume]

But this too has to be a bug

This is very common

How often have you flipped 9/10 tails ?

[peak apex]

I mean is it a bug or are the odds silly low, with silly low odds it keeps people having to use the feature 😅 doesn’t mean I feel it’s right - absolutely believe it should be better

[thorny plume]

There is a 0.97 percent chance of getting 9 tails on 10 spins ... Imagine if the coin that 3 sides

And then try doing it twice

[peak apex]

You gotta use sos maths

[thorny plume]

I do math

Math math

[peak apex]

Sos math isn’t normal math

[thorny plume]

No because their RNG engine is really bad

Actual digital rng doesnt excist, and is probably just as far away as true AI

But their RNG is one of the worst ones ive ever seen. Its not even trying

9/10 twice on a 3 sided coin is like 0.0010

And it keeps happending all the time

[peak apex]

Agreed im just hoping they come out with a “fix” to make it better without breaking something else at the same time

[thorny plume]

True, but to fix their RNG should be addressed.
Im finally so fed up im done. Ill find something else for my money

And tbh its a relieve, the way theyve been treating us lately has been the push I needed.
It is so absurd it feels like a social experiment. To see how far they can push us

Relief I guess the word is

[peak apex]

I can understand your feeling on it, I’ve been here many years and have seen many express the same

[thorny plume]

Their revenues show it too 😅 and unless they adress theese kinda issues their revenues will show it more

I wish them nothing well

[full pivot]

It's not rng, it's programmed that way

Deliberate attempt to scam

[peak apex]

I hope they do, more so for the community - a lot of us have had great fun along the way with friends, it would be nice to have that same atmosphere and enjoyment like we used to

[thorny plume]

They are taking advantage of us beeing loyal to friends weve made in game

Friends is the only thing thats kept me here

But throwing 3000 euro down a black hole of scammy probabilities where the math isnt mathing only to end up with heroes thats 1/3 done and the Tempest gear where you get NOTHING on 150 Tempest rolls. Not sure if I got any last sotf aswell, I think I got two but only from the "good" chests

So yea, its time people say no

Theyve chased away alot f2p and small spenders, and later big spenders and medium, and now more.. every new change their revenues drop. How can they not understand we dont want to be scammed ?

[stable cosmos]

Because all they ever see is the big numbers. I doubt they have the brain to look at overall revenue. Alternatively they don't care and are happy if this game dies so they can spin up the next clone for easy money.

This person spent 20k, extrapolate that out to 500 players and we're doing amazing!!11 if they looked at actual revenue it would look less rosy.

[wide wraith]

no one forces you to spend, take that auction junk, i didnt accept the terms so to me it doesnt exist

[distant gull]

@molten ice I got an idea about that rare and epic mold

• Using Rare Mold: 16 pts
• Using Epic Mold: 80 pts

[molten ice]

any pts will be good 😄

[gritty fiber]

Hopefully it will be soon, there’s some movement in SotF for the purple vehicle fragments so maybe…

[stable cosmos]

They need to get rid of the 🤬 🤬 🤬 ing banners if they're gonna offer more tempest points

[analog nymph]

😅

[wide wraith]

what have they messed up on CC now, ny level 171 rex doesnt count in rallys??? another thing messed up by the rocking horses i mean Devs

[icy mural]

Did the dev remove the reinforcement button from the rally tab??? Or is it just me?

[wide wraith]

so the Devs have managed to break CC again, why dont they just leave things alone, as they dont seem to know what they are doing

[silent tree]

Did you have other stronger behemoth in that rally? only the strongest 8 counts

[rocky otter]

CC is can be the most boring thing in thr whole world

even more boring then working

[silent tree]

So i assume your state isnt fighting? Mine is fighting for some reason

[rocky otter]

we are fighting but what for? we dont have any drama or fight. it doesnt matter who is gov. just for 50-60 badges

[timid kelp]

I get what your saying Buroo especially in the older states where a lot of the players do not even need badges anymore.

[woven spire]

Cc is broken since 3 years

Useless event

Was only good at start

Never got updated rewards

They should remove cc kill event all kind of that stuff and make something new but to busy making bugs and new features

[timid kelp]

I don't think necessarily removing it, it just needs a revamp and better rewards which will make more players actually want to play it, also adding the same healing feature to CC like SvS would be beneficial

[wide wraith]

no both the kong and rex were lower

[woven spire]

It does not match with the game mechanica anymore

And the game age

Cc = not play just sit

The game already has not much competition left we all know who wins

So inside state you think there is Any?

Sure you can have some strong alliances but 1 will be stronger then 2 2 then 3 erc

So yes i think they should remove it completly like MM and make something cross like SVS without losing gov or whatever. Update all rewards idk

[timid kelp]

I understand you points and some are very valid to some states for sure, mine tends to be quite active during CC even if it looks a forgone conclusion. But you are always more than welcome to leave feed back here https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606 if you do just make sure to format properly following https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110341802520748132 as a guide or I can help you.

[mighty gorge]

What crap is this. A "Bargain Bash"; who thinks of these names

[woven spire]

Random name generator😂

I think its not bad packs refresh daily

So it should be cheaper then special store

For monkey

With bit luck

[lunar python]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[ancient stratus]

When can you use this?

[fresh raptor]

When you deinstall the game, honestly 👌😁

[steel musk]

Devs forgot complete it

so can't use it

[mighty gorge]

You'll be able to use that, when they also complete this:

[ancient stratus]

Any day now 😉

[astral stratus]

[Its been 84 years gif]

[tardy night]

Devs wanted you to spend in Migo for acquiring rally capacity instead

[frigid vault]

Why not both?

[digital glacier]

This might sound crazy, and some may hate it, but I would love to see a capitol clash where players can be in an alliance, but they are considered to be solo fighters, like azurtane heist. No settlement attacks allowed during capitol clash. 0 troops die. 0 troops wounded. Everyone has identical march time to every location (like annihilation awaits, all solo hits are 1 minute (or less) regardless where you are on the map. And the governor is based on who holds the middle the longest.
After 4 years of capitol clash and insignificant changes to the event. I think this would be a really interesting way to liven up that event, even if it is only for a test example and it goes completely bad. I think it would be a fun twist on an old boring event.

[violet garden]

f2p will be never govs then😅

[astral stratus]

I suggested just t1 and no heroes and stuff. So its solely timing of rallies for number of troops

[deft rose]

I understand your perspective, and for older states maybe it becomes boring after a while. But teamwork is fundamental in this type of events. It create a sense of unity and excitement for players playing as a team, a sense of camaraderie and helps them for the future SVS. However, if you think this would be an interesting thing to explore you can upload a feedback report.

As I said, this can feel different in older states.

[mighty gorge]

The issue is, well not so much the issue but more to the point, while things in older states are quite different, those states that suffer all of the same issues are now creeping up and up to the newer ones. Essentially, the game is getting so flat and diluted that states as recent as 1100 are having the same lack of being able to field teams or having one main alliance in the state only or events like CC becoming boring.

I did CC today, there was a time when I was up, motivating people, setting markers, joining voice, coordinating rallies and all that good stuff. Now I either don't do it, or login late in the day and sit in the tower or capitol

[deft rose]

I understand how this may have changed the perception of teamwork, especially in more advanced states. If you believe this issue can be improved, please consider submitting a feedback report to share your thoughts

[mighty gorge]

But that situation is getting more and more prevalent even for newer states

[mighty gorge]

Truthfully. The problem is FP, they are their own problem and their solution, and until they change their way of thinking the same cycles will repeat and repeat until the game is dead.

They are just to blind and ignorant to see it.

Hence why I made my feedback report last week, which has now been lost to the myriad of other reports that followed

[deft rose]

Is natural to have concerns and criticism about a game, but is worth considering that the team continually evaluate and adjust gameplay based on.. player feedback.

[mighty gorge]

..which I keep also saying is
..yet another issue we never address

[mighty gorge]

You've not been a mod long have you?

[sweet copper]

I felt that

[digital glacier]

With their comment, I don't think they have been a player that long 🙈

[astral stratus]

Be nice and dont break her right away

[mighty gorge]

In my humble honest personal opinion, the application process for moderators needs to change. They need to have a good breadth and depth of knowledge and history to pass. But that's just my personal view and not to say that we don't have good mods

[sweet copper]

That young optimism is inspiring

[mighty gorge]

^^

[deft rose]

Hahah well, I'm here to assist you and encourage feedback within the community. There are challenges and frustrations along the way, but don't lose hope

[astral stratus]

Welp, admittingly an accurate summary lol. I get that player are fed up with same phrase over and over again

[mighty gorge]

Hope went a long time ago, despite me banging my head against the proverbial brick wall week to week. Just ask @vale yoke

[vale yoke]

[astral stratus]

[vale yoke]

[mighty gorge]

I'm nice....honest if not a little long in the tooth lol 😊

[astral stratus]

How's momma Taxi

[vale yoke]

Taxi has the day off from being a chauffeur. Instead, doing a stint as a corporate minion in a couple hours lol

So what's the conversation here? If Cerberus tags me, it's usually good

[mighty gorge]

A discussion about hope

[digital glacier]

Day 73. Of solving the Resonating hero stat retention issue. It's still broken.
Information has been submitted by a dlmod, and saberlot said 11 days ago he would relay the information to the dev team.

Still not fixed as of 5 minutes ago when I checked.

[vale yoke]

In general, or in SoS, because...

[deft rose]

And we are all still here regardless. I'd say the community cares enough ❤️ And well.. don't forget about that feedback report. Otherwise let's go to #🆘︱sos_discussion or #🧟︱general chat please.

[mighty gorge]

Hope about feedback, things changing. The usual

[vale yoke]

Oh.

Well.

I might be the wrong person to discuss that with.

Btw, anyone find out about that dev chat? Ubiquitous Fay was sweet to offer to follow up on Facebook, but I know Azaya, Nanami, and Saber all are aware people selected in camp cafe haven't received any notice about scheduling.

[mighty gorge]

And here I still am lol

[mighty gorge]

The day you get that hopeful meeting is the day that dreams really can come true.

[tidal apex]

I just logged in, hopped into tower for few minutes, joined one rally to gather points for ke rewards and done :p

[vale yoke]

Any hope I have in SoS Feedback is a delightful mixture of strong spirit, moral integrity, a desire for change, abject stupidity, and ludicrous naivety.

[mighty gorge]

Either this, or Andy Zhong becomes the Wizard of Oz

We even gave governor away, that's how interesting CC was

[mighty gorge]

Couldn't have said it better.

[stray acorn]

and Rage, sometimes

[vale yoke]

Blinding rage

Yes, Sima. Yes.

[stray acorn]

and desire to burn my devices but they're expensive

[mighty gorge]

Sticker Rage!!!!!

No more stickers please!

[stray acorn]

and screaming... but only during KOTH, other time the scream is smth like sdhgjrhgevhre plz work

and joy of seeing another weird PLZ SPEND OMG WE NEED A NEW LAMBO events

and need of unlimited slippers

[astral stratus]

Dont blame devices when its your VPN

[vale yoke]

Mainly taking out my rage regarding gaming overall on the easiest target, which is a disposable cut-and-pasted mobile game reliant on micro transactions as part of a sadly expanding business model.

[stray acorn]

I blame u my vpn is noice 🩴

[mighty gorge]

I think our new mod ran away. 🏃‍♀️

[stray acorn]

they smols, they'll get used to us being like dis

[vale yoke]

New mod come back, we're nice enough, I promise. We're just jaded and cynical, but still lovable and fun.

[stray acorn]

also susfox is here, susfox is noice @astral stratus

[astral stratus]

'Tis fine, I'm used to it

[stray acorn]

[astral stratus]

[tidal apex]

It would be so nice... No new things for 6 months :p

[stray acorn]

I was once in the middle of a super buggy MM and my mom literally came and asked me some normal questions and i went full rage like WHY U ALWAS ASK ME THINGS DURING MM, so she splatted me with a noice slipper and then asked me what the starsa is MM and why I'm like this and what have she done to deserve me

[spice jungle]

imagine if you could play the game without it crashing a single time in 1 hour on ios, people might spend more money

[mighty gorge]

Peanut or Chocolate?

[stray acorn]

Fish

[stray acorn]

my ipad is like, ok u were enough in game, lemme kick u out spc when this super maxed player is sending march to ouch u

[vale yoke]

The caramel mms are pretty good

[stray acorn]

[spice jungle]

imagine spending 100k on this game so that you can win doomsday but you lose because your game crashes a few more times than your opponent

[stray acorn]

I mean, we sometimes have Game during all the Crashes

which is good

[spice jungle]

or you lose because they add red tempest arms in the middle of doomsday but your opponent gets it while you have to wait 2 weeks for it to be released

[stray acorn]

i'll wake up

[vale yoke]

It's weird that for some events i kinda hope on us having less lag and issues than our opponents

[stray acorn]

I'm not alone then XD

[mighty gorge]

Did you know we had lag in Azurtane. I didnt; apparently according to the dev team

[spice jungle]

we were stuck in the top grouping for king of the hill for a while because we won two times in a row when the new season started because half of the enemy team couldn't send marches after 10 minutes into the game

extremely high quality

[stray acorn]

KOTH is the best, things may work but if those things are working they may not work as they should, or stop becuz u tried to speed your 3rd march

[tardy night]

Legit strategy in f+ games, to win at svs, used to be to send 200 1 troop marches at an hq to cause them to get kicked from game. It's gotten better here when it comes to lag

[tardy night]

Folks also moved to playing on gaming rigs. Harder to do on them lol

[spice jungle]

think it still makes the building disappear if you spam the attack at them though

[crystal iron]

[steel musk]

when devs will update cc rewards and bunkers, horde... etc
there too many dumb events

Koth tomorrow. stay attend for lag

[tame lintel]

Don't worry. Phase 2 of tactical emotes are coming to help you with that

[stable cosmos]

Koth still doesn't work right, not that I've ever played it. Never anyone saying Koth ran perfectly and we had a good time.

Can't understand why they never pulled it to "fix" it

[analog nymph]

Horde "update" and so is pz in the new update

[mighty gorge]

Holographic psychedelic emotes that display across the centre of the screen. Trippy man!

[knotty nacelle]

Bounty Blast is the best event ever! So many real rewards there, specially for F2P and low spenders. Congrats to devs, they did it again!!

[tame lintel]

Sweet. I happy you passed your sarcasm class. That is a top notch statement. 100% and a gold star 🌟

[knotty nacelle]

I mean what else Is left to say? The whole event is a parody of itself. Average player will not get any meaningfull rewards. In the past we had events with candies and monsters, but those events had real rewards unlike this one😕

[spice jungle]

great event, just spend money and pretend that you are smart by waiting until there is a 10% ammo discount

[tame lintel]

That's the event

That's the game

See who spends the most

The end

[knotty nacelle]

If you are F2P, congrats! You can buy 10 pearls from store!!

[mighty gorge]

The game of life. You are either the Lion, or the Deer.

Or a Unicorn...

[stable cosmos]

Now i wonder how much money a game of push the button to send me $5 would actually make

[tame lintel]

Today's people. Probably alot

[spice jungle]

make sure there's a leaderboard and some way to display trophies or skins

[ember mantle]

Hi, does anyone need any help with feedback, before I head off to check the channels?

[proud dagger]

Would like to know if/when Raider's Reign awards were sent out

this one

[mighty gorge]

The dumb mini game

[ember mantle]

That's a mini game?

[proud dagger]

been waiting for rewards since xmas

[ember mantle]

Pretty sure the rewards were done, they sent out notifications for the newest mini game days ago

[mighty gorge]

Yes

If they spent less time on those trash mini games, and more time on real problems we might not have half the issues we do

actually, no we probably still will lol

[proud dagger]

they spent all of 5 min stealing the code for these games, it's not affecting the rest of the game 😂

[digital glacier]

There are plenty of these games with open source code.

They just copy paste and insignificantly edit it 😂

[mighty gorge]

Plenty of addon 'modifications' too 😂

[ember mantle]

I just went all over the site and it didnt list when rewards went out. The site does however have the leaderboards up to see how well you did. I didnt do well enough to earn rewards so am not completely positive that they were sent out already, but am inclined to think they would have since the rewards for the current mini game are due out soon

[olive sluice]

we need to understand that FunMinus doesn't do anything for PLAYERS, they only do what's necessary to milk the PAYERS. 🤑

[outer seal]

i don't think payers are fine, when they have to use all event materials on the same day, they are able to get them. devs just wasn't bothered to play own game to get a vision about it

[ember mantle]

I'm trying to learn how to be a hoarder/saver, am not doing well in events without doing it. I need to try to not fall further behind so have to use what I get and its just keeping the wheel turning but only just turning.

[nova jetty]

I hate the red dots so hoarding is hard

[olive sluice]

which event?

[onyx helm]

good question

[junior bone]

Lunar new year

The point requirement sucks

[ember mantle]

The highest player in my state doesnt even have 1k

[junior bone]

The highest in my state has 23k I think

[woven spire]

All states we have 40k here🤣

[olive sluice]

yeah, those rewards are only for whales. Works as designed

[queen nimbus]

Performance issues example when switching from settlement to the map:

[olive sluice]

These type of events are increasing every month

[olive sluice]

hey, that's pretty fast! I've seen it worse 😄

Reloading the game every 10 minutes helps - but only A BIT 😄

yes

devs need the 2024 editions of their Lambos

[junior bone]

Whose in your lunar event?

[olive sluice]

yeah, so the whales buy more bundles!

At least that's what they think..

[sleek moth]

Can we allow every VIP levels to have the points automatically assigned once we switch the chief talent? So VIP12 just basically get free switches, while the other VIP pays to switch. The constant having to redo all those points is tiring.

[nova jetty]

The amount of events can be overwhelming we have been giving a lot of feedback about it the last few months. You can add your opinion to #📋︱feedback-reporting there is no current one to upvote yet this month

[nova jetty]

Yes it is very time consuming and reaching vip12 is no easy task! Please add your ideas to #📋︱feedback-reporting I think it will get lots of upvotes mine included

[woven spire]

Obi haha

[olive sluice]

yay! Killer bot deleted another feedback!

[woven spire]

Obi - apple - monroe - daddy o

[sleek moth]

*Observation:
Rewards for Capital clash are outdated.

Consequence:
Players are not happy with rewards from Capital clash as rewards are outdated and not helpful as most of the players got their badges maxed and they spend more biocaps than they get back from ranking, if they get good ranking to even get that small amount of biocaps.

Suggested Solution:
Change rewards for ranking in Capital clash to more biocaps, TA parts, tanks parts, behemoth or bio batteries.*

I do not agree with this feedback posted here. How about the big guys don't score and let the smaller f2p guys get the top ranking instead? Can't these be shared instead?

[woven spire]

Thid people day for years^^

Never changed

They once promised i believe

[nova jetty]

It's the only way to at least try to get things changed . Although the changes are very slow we have made more progress lately in getting them to hear us.

[junior bone]

Daddy-o still spends a lot?

[woven spire]

Depends if 30k points is alot

😆

[junior bone]

Daumnnnnnnnnnnn

[woven spire]

Monroe does 2 accounts every event

Apple 3

Obi 3

Thats 9 spots

[junior bone]

Players in the older states have been spending for a long time

[woven spire]

Yup

[nova jetty]

You can add any suggestion you feel appropriate to #📋︱feedback-reporting everyone's opinions are valid

[olive sluice]

I know some fully maxed whales who quit only because of the extreme RNG in the last few weeks

[sleek moth]

How about this suggestion?

VIP12 gets 4 formations for chief talents, and free to switch between these talents.
VIP11 gets 3 formations for chief talents and pays 1000 biocaps to switch between these talents.
VIP 10 gets 3 formations for chief talents and pays 1500 biocaps to switch between these talents.
VIP 9 gets 3 formations for chief talents and pays 2000 biocaps to switch between these talents.
VIP 8 gets 2 formations for chief talents and pays 2000 biocaps to switch between these talents.
VIP 7 gets 1 formation for chief talents and pays 2000 biocaps to switch between these talents.

I can post them, but I want to hear opinions first

[olive sluice]

yeah.. so "everybody" (read: close to NOBODY) gets a chance to have super duper gear

[nova jetty]

It's a very good idea ! You should definitely add it ! I'm fir anything that helps switch them faster

[dusk blaze]

Looks good to me too

[nova jetty]

Red tempest I haven't heard that yet..yuck

[sleek moth]

So to make it clearer. Paying the biocaps will reset everything, but the preset formation allows us to assign everything with 1 click.

So more formation means you can have different options for different situations.

[nova jetty]

It's so much better

[olive sluice]

read their news channel

[sleek moth]

ok, I will write it in now.

[nova jetty]

I need too I haven't had time.. (Its scary there)

[unreal lichen]

5 here

Finally a f u to the devs

[woven spire]

Dont know what they expected after xmas

They are sick sick

We have 16

Unlocked

17 had 13k😅😅

[unreal lichen]

Think it's more up fed up players

[outer seal]

good luck next time with next treasure

[woven spire]

Hope next in 2 week again

So 5 make it

Maybe they find brains then

That release faster wont make more revenue

[outer seal]

i wish devs remove AH, KoH and operational festival

[woven spire]

Operational is good

But the first one

Was really good

[unreal lichen]

Indeed

[woven spire]

Anyone falling for treassure bs

You stupid

The big reward is trash

2 red stats and 2 purple stats and then your skill will be rider reduction

[outer seal]

what is good there?))

[sand basalt]

hi Zaar, i’m sure someone already write a feedback asking that, you can check amd add an upvote o write your own suggestion about it

[unreal lichen]

Pearls

[sand basalt]

all jewelry is always good, even the pearls in game

[outer seal]

pearls are ok, but the way you get them in op fest is wierd

[cloud ridge]

Sorry KG, I'll try harder to spend more

[sand basalt]

you need a recovery class

[cloud ridge]

They've devloped guilt tripping taxtics now

[sand basalt]

you’ll be sent to day one rewards

can be a tactic even stay to day one, red crystals are always useful

[sleek moth]

Please help me upvote.

[sand basalt]

hi Vinn, you meant on your last feedback?

you wrote a very great suggestion, i’m sure will collect a lot of upvotes

[sleek moth]

Yea the one on chief talent. I cant share link here though, help me if you can.

[sand basalt]

this one?
#📋︱feedback-reporting message

[sleek moth]

Yup

They should allow players to share feedback links here

[sand basalt]

i’m sure there are reasons behind this decision

we can ask

[olive sluice]

the reason: spammers use Discord links. So they get auto deleted by a dumb bot that can't distinguish between internal and external links

[olive sluice]

If you add some line breaks it will be easier readable 🙂

[outer seal]

this suggestion devaluates vip12 even more than it's already done by devs

[olive sluice]

It only upvalues the lower VIPs.

[outer seal]

this is exactly what devaluates it:)

[olive sluice]

relatively yes, but not absolute

But if VIP12 players think that less wealthy players need to be punished more, then they won't like this change, true

[outer seal]

you can get vip12 in 1-1,5 years now, i have 4 ftp vip12 accounts already

[olive sluice]

if you blow your biocaps into it yes

[spice jungle]

add vip up to 30

[outer seal]

devs can't balance what it is in game already, i wonder how they will make proper progression for higher vip levels?) they can't even make red dots for events in normal way

[placid inlet]

Omg I hate red dots that won’t go away

[spice jungle]

they could make it not even do anything and just have a leaderboard for it 😂

[vernal moss]

I'm surprised really they haven't just decided to throw in vip 13-15 and for the daily boxes to give out general capsules.
But since there's no such thing currently that might be the cause of it.

Vip crates should just grant us it's own currency and have a permanently open shop to let us buy what's on our list instead of the fragments.

[loud condor]

Possible explanation? Stolen codes, lack of inner workings thus impossible to expand/improve old stuff.
Or they just didn't care.

There is really nothing stopping them from increasing some very simple old things like old level caps, talent skills, etc.
Like have you ever read the hospital talent branch?

[vernal moss]

The issue with this is they most definitely won't release new levels with the same materials as it was, like chief level. Because it's been so long and we've all got so many spares we'd max it instantly.
This is from past experiences form the game that if this was to happen, it would more than likely be another new feature and materials required for this.

As it would be nice to extend the core features we will complain as a community the expectations of the levels. With so many features being added so quickly it would add on top of it.

If we can convince them to just add extra levels the same as the core build it would be absolutely lovely. Have you considered sharing this in #📋︱feedback-reporting at all by chance?

[loud condor]

For some chief talents, just adding modifying a number or two will make them somewhat more useful.

For level caps, they probably can't make a table for reference and pointers in game codes.

[mighty gorge]

True, but they are a victim of their own circumstance. If they maintained a sliding scale as states progress they would never get into this situation. But as we know, they are too dumb.

[sleek moth]

how do you add line breaks on discord?

[sleek moth]

No it values VIP12 more because it gives lets them do it free,

[olive sluice]

Shift-Return

[outer seal]

it's already for free with vip12 and others should not have this ability even for bio, which is very easy to get now. those who started to play during some anniversary or similar event will be able to get vip7 after short period like 1 month, and will play with talents like vip12, cause bio is nothing now

[torpid gazelle]

So glad devs give us more bounty blast currency as rewards to a store that is super limited on how many things you can buy. What a waste of an event.

[sleek moth]

Nope not true, it’s not easy now either. For f2p or small spenders, you will never get to VIP12. I’ve been playing for 40 days in a new state as well, and nope I am not VIP 7. Biocaps is also not nothing now, it’s hard to get and easily used up on Ray’s place. Don’t conjure things just so to prove your point.

[outer seal]

my 3 ftp alts are vip12 already, you will get it fast finding a way. i'd not play ray if you can't up heroes really well

[tardy night]

State 1 vs State 1200+

And vip 13 never happened for 8 years in f+ games. Don't hold your breath I say 🤣

[dense lance]

I think you're overstating how easy it is for F2P to get free biocaps, but I think VIP is due for an overhaul before any of the VIP benefits, especially VIP 12, get considered for a general feature. The "We use capsules 😉 😉 😉 not fragments" thing really needs to get addressed first

[tidal apex]

Vip12 on f2p within a year and a half means you will be using all biocaps on vip levels only. No rays pools. It is possible but your heroes will be terribly weak.

It is not worth it now really. Unless they change vip rewards

It was kind of a trade off- you had weak heroes for as long as you were working on vip but when you finished extra 6 gold frags daily were making it so mich easier to max out heroes.

Now those 6 gold fragments are way less important than they used to be

[stable cosmos]

Vip12 is just user friendly. Its rarely needed as a joiner to change your talents often or at all. Why its behind such a paywall and why vip points are in so many bundles even aftee you have it would only make sense to a company like fup

[outer seal]

i think it was ok with old conception which we had before gen3, seems new dev team just not able to design game progress properly. vip12 is used often, no matter joiner or not, you will switch before doing researches/gathering and troops at least

[outer seal]

i said roughly, might be not a year but less, i don't play with alts hard just trying to distribute all materials properly via events when i have time for this. we get more bio for free, than from sotf/svs where you get all 1st places, what do i really overstate? i got my first vip12 before we had troops drill, rain of riches, basil handbook, increased lottery rewards and other bio giveaways. it was interesting to go for it, unlike now.

[outer seal]

i wonder how ray's make your heroes stronger? most of hero fragments are in top rewards of big events, i never had weak heroes and was using ray hard for fragments only with hank. i agree, gold fragments are not important as before, but you can't max your limitless heroes skill without vip12. it's not easy even having it

[torpid gazelle]

Congrats. Been playing for 3 1/2 years, f2p for most of it. Not vip 12, and definitely not spending bios to get it. Winning first in your said events involves spending money so that means f2p getting vip 12 is a very long shot. VIP is honestly the last thing devs need to overhaul. Especially when we already have huge power differences in many states.

[stable cosmos]

I'm almost 4 years in. To get to vip 10 ill need 400k biocaps and thats for just over 200k xp. I'd be looking at probably 1.6 million bios to get to vip 11 and 1.8 million for 12. Guessing. They might be more common but they're not THAT much more common

[civic star]

Can I join the conversation, we recently got troll squad and it’s hard to get them all three to even max purple brain

[dense lance]

a F2P player actually trying to save up biocaps for ray's (which is pretty much the only thing you can spend them on if you want to have anywhere close to decent heroes) would really make a huge ouch face spending them to quick change their talents, basically, they're definitely more available but not that disposable

[dense lance]

in retrospect, I might have maxed the troll squad bonuses and taken a knee on improving the actual heroes

it's not a great solution but if you're not going to spend a lot on them, just some advice from my hindsight

[stable cosmos]

Devs have provided nothing for any brand of capsules. Once a hero gen using capsules is done... you're finished with it. There is nothing else you can do

You could level their abilities but why? New gen is stronger so work on that. Its a garbage method

[dense lance]

I realize you didn't ask for a recommendation but just my 2 cents

[stable cosmos]

I wish I'd done that as it would have been more permanent use

[civic star]

I am kinda taking that path! I have max some of those….but again I have not managed to gather enough gold frags it seems like I am always on end of short stick

[dense lance]

yeah, the permanent bonuses in the long run will trump the momentary disadvantage, even counting having a weaker 2nd, 3rd, etc march for a while

[stable cosmos]

Troll squad bonuses might be meh, but they're better than using the frags on a dead march

[civic star]

No no totally fine…..happy to learn and hear stuff

[stable cosmos]

And now they're capsules. Because the devs are braindead vegetables, so troll squad is simply off limits for everyone after that gen is done

[civic star]

True, saw that aspect I guess I have accepted I will be nothing more then just a baby joiner

[stable cosmos]

Monkeyvis more important anyway

[torpid gazelle]

Nothing wrong with being a joiner. The entire entry of limitless heroes changed the aspect of hero upgrades and made many heroes and special skills obsolete.

[dense lance]

to an extent, I think the tanks will become the next monkey

just not quite yet

also they can be spread out, which is actually nice

[stable cosmos]

It'll take a while, i think they might be treating them as heroes mkII.

[dense lance]

with behemoths they could also a bit but that's still among 2 people, where the tanks are among 3

[dense lance]

yeah I think the tanks we have are similar to gen 1 gold/purple

we won't have any idea how important they'll be until 5-6 generations in

[stable cosmos]

Im hoping it means it takes longer for a new hero gen

No slowdown of course, they won't do that, just swapsies between tanks and heroes, because obviously the money train needs to keep rolling...

[torpid gazelle]

From the sounds of the latest update. Slowdown won’t be happening anytime soon. Sounds like we might be getting some more heroes soon.

[dense lance]

there's levels between that and full on rally lead, there's good uses that alliances can and should have for mid spenders

even low/F2P players if they set themselves up correctly

it does take positioning and strategy and won't ever compete with a maxed spender, especially a smart one, but don't give up too much

[digital glacier]

I cry everytime I look at my Trish.
I leveled her up some but I can only get her fragments with maps or the rarity bundle that has her tokens.
No vouchers, no rays casino tokens.

[civic star]

I dnt like tempest arm feature, however vehicle seems decent and heros lol I use to wait for xyz gen to come up horde and wait to be used on right ones now even that it uhmmm bit down the drain

[digital glacier]

She's a good hero, but for me. Worthless trash

And wasted potions

She's like a (rhymes with) looker
Takes and takes and takes and gives nothing to show for it.

[civic star]

I did that mistake with oli.... When launched I went all in now am struggling to finish....

[fringe shadow]

How come a lot of people say Trish is not good? 🤔

[fringe shadow]

Wait, shouldn’t you have lots of Trish capsules from Rays when it was gen 14?

[digital glacier]

I did some. But not enough.

Trish has her pros and cons compared to evelyn.
Just like any other hero.

[dense lance]

in a 13-16 state you'd also have to weigh her pros and cons with improving Lan, and Lan is much more obtainable than Trish

same as Lucky, Lucky was actually considered a stong hero in her prime but for the effort you still have to compare her to Marcos

so if you're considering, in one of those states, which rider to work on you should probably consider which other heroes you're working on (since they're intended to complement each other) and how hard they are to get, and Trish doesn't really make good sense in most regards, add on to that in states where she's current, Trish's generation is short

[digital glacier]

Trish can also make you cry to mommy if used correctly 🤣

[dense lance]

for the gen 13 to 16 states basically she has to be evaluated compared to Maddie, Evelyn, and Lan and it's a little like being the prettiest girl in your town shoved into Ms Universe

[fringe shadow]

Trish helped me a lot in Hero Challenges when I started with no limitless heroes. Her heal was my panic button! 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Lan however is pretty trash in explorer. She's got less range than most infantry heroes

[digital glacier]

She uses a whip, what do you expect 🙄

[jade minnow]

...and has nice..shirt:) Sorry I can't refuse to write it:)

[wooden carbon]

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[stable cosmos]

Dunno, some of the punchy ones have more range. Heck, wolfe just has a stretchy arm and its got more range. Think she has the shortest range of any rider and given that every ither rider has the same range, hers is probably a mistake

[wooden carbon]

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[civic star]

Is your keyboard broken? Anjun

[outer seal]

you can get top places without money, it's a matter of grinding, waiting and counting. in some states, spenders might not let you get 1st place, but cheap second is almost same good. most difficult is to understand if you have enough materials or not, if you have someone from your state, who takes 1st places often he has to be able help with counting

[distant gull]

💀

Delete this crappy event

[torpid gazelle]

If you think you can place top10 in sotf or svs without spending then you are not a f2p player.

[outer seal]

ask in my state:) i can't even count how many 1st places in sotfs and svs i took:)) i did hat-trick once

[torpid gazelle]

You would be waiting for months to try and get enough to even try to place that high and even then spenders won’t let you in those events.

[outer seal]

yes, but this will be enough to play well till you grind again

[torpid gazelle]

I saved for 3 months to try and get number one in points event for chief gear, didn’t even make top 10 of svs for final stage. Not worth the pain of trying.

[stable cosmos]

Wouldn't be possible in mine. Not in the slightest. Waste of material if anything

[torpid gazelle]

And vip 12 is definitely not worth what you think it is.

[outer seal]

i don't debate how necessary it is, i just feel bad it's not interesting to go for it like was before. it's a risky way, that's why i said about someone who can help counting. if you won't get needed place it is a big mistake to go for it. i haven't seen your state's leaderboards, may be you're right about how it goes where you play, but i had no problem with it in all states i played. i play with several accounts, so it's not boring to wait till you can score. i always have account which has enough to hit big events

[torpid gazelle]

It hasn’t been an interest for f2p to place high in these events since migo was introduced. It brought in big spenders for greater rewards. Currently my state leaderboard top 10 for sotf ranges from 83 mil down to 21.5 mil., and it is like this every time.

[outer seal]

it's high, 1st place in sotf usually costs around 50M in my state, honestly i have no idea how is better to play now, before i see new heroes. i just hope they will be out of current skills system. i was 1st in migo without focusing on it, sotf and svs give a lot of points there if you hit them hard. it's not really difficult if to know your leaderboards, high scorers and needed amounts of materials, but might be boring and not worth for those who play 1 account

[torpid gazelle]

Sotf to me hasn’t been worth the input for the rewards. Devs did try to make it better with new rewards system, but that is quickly becoming outdated. Svs has always been the better event to put into. Sotf I’m lucky to break top200 and svs I’m always in 50-100. Sotf I get minimum rewards and bounce, svs I try. Usually end up emptying my backpack as much as I can.

[outer seal]

i used to get minimum and bounce before i collect enough to hit top, but i'm not sure i would do this playing with only 1 account. sometime it's needed to neutralize high scorers with alts

[torpid gazelle]

Yeah ain’t nobody got time to do what you are claiming. Especially f2p peeps.

[outer seal]

i play with several accounts at same time

[tardy night]

Huh? Sotf and svs give points for migo if you spend. No one is ranking 1st as f2p in an active spender state. You can hoard as you like. 6 months of hoarding will get you 1 single top 10 rank in 700+. Your state must be at war and dead

[torpid gazelle]

Congrats. I have an alt too. Not gonna help my main get a higher score in events.

[tardy night]

You're applying an outlier example as a universal rule zaar. Play in an active peace state with spenders.

[outer seal]

no, i said it depends of your state's leaderboard. i agree with you here

[tardy night]

Same thing. It's an outlier that you are generalizing as applicable to everyone. It isn't.

When you say "it's easy", it isn't.

Cuz your state is literally dead enough and no competition that minimal hoarding yields rich rewards

You would have to remove 30-40 spenders accounts per state in our sotf for a f2p to rank in top 10

So the hoarding time increases proportionally. Good luck hoarding 6 months while getting a 7 generation hero skip

[torpid gazelle]

Especially with the two events happening so closely together. You have to sacrifice one for the other.

[outer seal]

i don't generalize. it's easy to get vip, i said it's not difficult for top of events

[tardy night]

Make an account in a new state

Let's see you do it

It's easy. Not difficult. You can show us.

[outer seal]

i'm not here to prove something, it's just my experience from how i used to play. i don't want to say that i play better than others, every state has own conditions. honestly i think you're good player, i like your comments but to start new account is too much for me:) i barely catch up with what i have

[tardy night]

No different than an alt. Will give you some perspective.

[outer seal]

but i have to stop active alt to play another one. i can do this if you make active alt in my team. i'm not the only one who play the way i wrote, most of former players of Girlpower alliance follow it, and you could see how we screw big events and all spenders there:)

[tardy night]

I don't need to play in a dead state to know how concentration of spenders affects rewards available for f2p.

🤷🏽‍♂️

[torpid gazelle]

Also just so you know. My context is coming from someone who has a top3 overall player in state and alliance. So that’s the spenders I’m dealing with.

[outer seal]

you're welcome to join just to watch from time to time, we are going to hit next season were skipping this one

[thorn axle]

Fun fact a f2p in my state saved up so much that they beat all the spenders 😂 and my state is no low spending state

Rank 1 in sotf

[tardy night]

Once. Right?

[outer seal]

i think they have hard leaderboard, over 100M for 1st place and more

[thorn axle]

Yup only once

Their name was a mockery too, something like “f2pBeatYouAll” 😂😂

[torpid gazelle]

Once every 6 months would maybe be all that’s possible.

[thorn axle]

I think they had a score of about 400m in the end

[tardy night]

Last phase of migowhere no whale is pushing cuz they did everything in the first two?

[thorn axle]

It looked like some were trying, all in the 200/300mil range 🤣

[tardy night]

200/300 mil isn't what whales get in our range. That's mids.

[outer seal]

omg, i took for 30 once:)

[thorn axle]

Not much whales in my sotf range, only 2 in my state

[torpid gazelle]

Never said it wasn’t possible to rank that high, but the sacrifices to do it are far more detrimental to a f2p settlement than the rewards gained.

[tardy night]

It's possible to do it. Once.

[outer seal]

i think if you can do it saving for half year it worth, if you need more time, than not. rewards will let you be strong for the next half year with what you have, upping somehow one op hero of new gen

[tardy night]

Literally cannot hoard while skipping generations. Will be worse than cannon fodder.

At least not for 6 months. Lol.

[torpid gazelle]

No the rewards will boost me for one day to nothing greater than a joiner.

[tardy night]

Less competition there.

[outer seal]

sadly rewards from there won't make you a good joiner, you need behemothes, air craft op systems, crystal skills and vehicles for it, along with 1 well upped limitless hero as captain for joining

[torpid gazelle]

Which is why I say f2p ranking high in sotf and svs are more detrimental the higher they rank. So many other events help with those criteria and give rewards for it. Also you keep throwing out info to me like I don’t know how to play. So im ending my portion of this convo now. Thank you for your insight. I like back and forth shows we have interest in the game and interest in improving it. I want to end it on agreeing with something though.

[outer seal]

sorry if it seemed so, i had no such intentions

[torpid gazelle]

We are all in this together. It is a game, and we will figure this out together. Even if the devs don’t always listen.

[tiny quiver]

Last SvS was my best showing I saved for months and got 4 over all

Prep and warfare (I have a great alliance)

They pulled my points up for warfare… love them

[pallid willow]

Anyone remembers from the top of their head which heroes do burn damage?

[still matrix]

There are so many heroes that do burn damage 😬

[stiff ether]

Cardini does. Don’t know about any other

And Codi as well

[still matrix]

Okay after reading talent these ones have burning damage in their skill

[plain osprey]

Is there any planning on when effortless progress will return? Can it finally be made to repeat on a regular basis so that we can plan accordingly or is it too much to ask?

[still matrix]

Gen 7 all heroes Magnus, Cardini, Grimm
Gen 10 Laura
Gen 11 Buzz
Gen 12 Codi

[analog nymph]

Too much to ask😂

[silk heath]

They said here #🎬︱developer_feedback message that it will be a regular event, but I'm not sure what the timetable will be.

[analog nymph]

It will show allways when its too late lol

[analog nymph]

That really didn't give any schedule it just say it will be there in the near future🤣

So exactly like it was before😔

[silk heath]

There weren't plans for it to return before. Now they've said it will be "regularly available"

This is following player feedback asking for it to come back.

[plain osprey]

It would favor too much those who can use their brains and not just their wallets so it will not be implemented by developers

One can only dream tho

[rocky otter]

I need help pls, if i delete account, this only one will delete or all account will delete in gmail?

[steel musk]

will delete all characters which bind with this account gmail

[rocky otter]

i wanna delete Hq level 15 acc. Because i wanna transfer my alt. but it will make 3 acc in same state

[steel musk]

can't delete one hq..

it will remove all your characters ( hq 1 - p13) in account..

i guess you can transfer even if you already have 2 accounts in that's state. it will be 3

[rocky otter]

okey. i will try to transfer. if i cant i will make this acc to lvl16 and transfer it somewhere and will bring my alt. its the safest way 😂

[patent olive]

It will delete

All of your characters

Include all binded accounts

[steel musk]

i thought characters only.. 🤔

[rocky otter]

okey i dont wanna risk it. i will make lvl16 and transfer somewhere

[hidden stream]

Hello, Buroo. CR. 7 is right (thank you )
You can transfer your character even if you already have 2 characters in that's state.
But note: once you have 4 or more characters in the target State, you can't transfer to that State: #⭐︱game_information message

You can also delete only one character, but you need to contact CS (you can send me DM, if you need help with this in future)

[steel musk]

If didn't log in for 2 months could transfer without upgrade

[rocky otter]

Thank you so much all ❤️

[patent olive]

Really 😭

I waste $10 for move my mini 1001 to 1000 I thought I cant get in

In 8/21 I had 2 characters in 1001 and 1 character in 1002

[hidden stream]

Oh, I'm really sorry that this happened

If you have any doubts, please always feel free to check the information on this server. There's always someone here to help you

[pallid willow]

Ty🙏😋

What’s the less tokens we can list an item in the tempest thing? We can’t sell them cheaper to ourselves can we? Lol

[elfin ridge]

Hi Michelle, from what I see the minimum price depends on how strong is specific TA. I think it also helps to protect players interest.

[patent olive]

In PTR There isnt such p2p event thing like Hidden Treasures

In live why clown events exist...

[steel musk]

depends on if has red stats on that's tempest arms or not

but yup can't sell tempest cheap.. lower cost will be around 150 - 300$.. If have ultra rare or rare skill on it

maybe if they add option to give tempest arms.. then could give it

I doubt if they will do that tho

[stiff ether]

More like a 1200 USD. Will be outdated in two months.

[pallid willow]

Just one, i wanted to buy it for my main acc i got it in the other one 😔

[mighty gorge]

You actually bought one from the auction?

[pallid willow]

Nope that’s just luck on my second account

I asked cause i want to give it to my main account for as cheaper i can lmao but can’t i think

[vale yoke]

I wish we could transfer between accounts. Like ones on the same binding agent? That would be neat.

[patent olive]

1st stats is terrible 😭

[pallid willow]

For a f2p account not at all lmao

[pallid willow]

Yea

[junior bone]

Bring back the old svs

cut the time down to 5 hours

[timid kelp]

Hey Weaver, please feel free to write https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606 with your opinions on this, just make sure to follow https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110341802520748132 😊

[marble willow]

Koth… great fun every 2 weeks

[lime galleon]

Same issue

[untold stag]

Our whole team was booted at the end with it

[feral heath]

Heyoo - when did that happen ?

Seems like a lot of people having that issue

[untold stag]

In the last 5-10 minutes of our game. Seems all 3 teams were booted out

[feral heath]

Eww - I do not like.

Could you join back in ?

Or it didnt let you in till it was over ?

[untold stag]

Reload and the error persisted.

[ancient stratus]

Please delete the koth game mode

[untold stag]

The game was decided already, but still...

[feral heath]

Yeah I agree super annoying !

Did you report it ingame ?

[ancient stratus]

don't fix koth, just delete it

pure hot garbage

[ruby zinc]

Hey Aura

[feral heath]

Hello

Yeah unfortunatly a lot of people had that issue 😭

[untold stag]

I have to leave, but I'll have others report it.

[feral heath]

Im so sorry for that bad experience !

[manic grotto]

What sculpture are we going to use this for?

[feral heath]

#🐞︱bug-reporting message it got reported here

please Upvote that post ❤️

[ruby zinc]

Good let me vote then

[wide wraith]

they should know by now that KoTH doesnt work and should remove it

[manic grotto]

What sculpture is this developing?

[feral heath]

Give me a short moment please ❤️

[ruby zinc]

Gifs in bug reporting?

[feral heath]

For all People encountering the Bug in KOTH - please upvote that post: #🐞︱bug-reporting message

For Discussion we can Chat here or in SOS DIscussion or Bug Discussion. Not in the reporting Channels ❤️

[manic grotto]

Tina.. Hero.. Its particle is nowhere to be found

[feral heath]

GIFS and memes belong to: https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/926158213466951721
Thank you for telling us ❤️

[vale yoke]

That looks like one of the upgrade tokens which only allows you to upgrade specific skins.

Decor? Maybe?

[feral heath]

Liannin

[manic grotto]

Another MOD directed me here

[vale yoke]

Aura

[ruby zinc]

Thank you Aura, have a good day

[feral heath]

You too

[feral heath]

Im not sure what you mean - could you maybe explan me what you mean ? ❤️

[manic grotto]

First of all, which statue does the icon I shared above elevate?

[vale yoke]

If that was in the Resident Evil store, then one of those

If I recall, those were collaboration-specific upgrade crystals.

If I'm incorrect, could some please clarify?

[feral heath]

For that I would need to know which exactly it is.
Like Liannin mentioned it might be a Decor one.
Usually when you click on it, it should show you which are possible.

[manic grotto]

Thank you Lianin

[feral heath]

I think you are correct lovely Liannin ❤️

Thank you for helping out ❤️

[manic grotto]

There are hundreds of statues, but none have the ability to upgrade. So I asked

My second question: Tina's hero snippet is nowhere to be found. Should we do it ourselves at home? 🙂

[vale yoke]

Absolutely. There may be videos or information in some of the other channels of this server. I suggest using search terms like "upgrade crystal" and you might find more available to you.
There also may be videos specifically on the collaboration event which mention these upgrades and can explain what each item available does, if you're interested.

[feral heath]

Thank you Liannin ❤️

[feral heath]

You mean Hero Fragments ?

[vale yoke]

Her fragment? Oh dear. I am guessing she isn't available in any of your Value Vouchers stores or any hero crates or searches?

[manic grotto]

Particle

[feral heath]

Liannin answering what I wanna answer

[vale yoke]

For raising her further? Ah.

[manic grotto]

I'm sorry I wrote it wrong

[vale yoke]

You're okay. I think I am understanding you.

One moment while I check something, but I might have an answer for you

[manic grotto]

There are no particles in the hero search building. There are no particles in the packages. Tina

[feral heath]

Seems like Im not needed anymore
Im going back to my RL Stuff then.
If I can help further feel free to DM me ❤️
Have a good day everyone

[vale yoke]

I also am seeing no access to Tina particles, to expand her Limitless skills. Many of the older heroes which were upgraded have no access to those, and I know there has been commentary from other players sent to the developers regarding this topic.
If you would like, you could add your voice to those concerns and help raise the topic in #📋︱feedback-reporting

If a moderator finds one of the previous posts about those older limitless generations (7-12, I believe), maybe they'd post a link?

[manic grotto]

Thank you lianin❤️

[steel musk]

If all stats red, it would cost 2k 🤣
only first 2 weeks they were pay that amount for it

[mighty gorge]

Why are peole raising feedback about KoTH lag. Stop it, its a bug, report it in #🐞︱bug-reporting

Seriously, you do that and it clouds genuine feedback

[steel musk]

not good skill...
rare skills better than this one..
this skill help rally leads if they lose power duel..

[mighty gorge]

And yet just another reason the feedback system doesn't work, but hey 'someone clever is working on it'. Shame they seemingly haven't got a clue and have been working on it for several months

[steel musk]

If they won power duel, rally leads won't need it also

so it's good for rally leads and not good in same time lol

[pallid willow]

Nah you crazy, im not a spender is better than a trash 3% attack or the other garbage ones, helps in the 1v1 battles like azurtane br etc, as f2p i think is great than a trash skill

Maybe the burn damage one is good too but that one did got on my main acc

[steel musk]

yes it's better than common skills

[tame lintel]

Hes only comparing it the best.
You have the correct mindset

[pallid willow]

Either way i can’t sell it even if i want i think it asks for more tokens and all and i dont have those lol very little, thx for help tho

[steel musk]

only way if they add option to give tempest arms 😅

If put it in auction.. even lower cost, anyone could pay more to get it..

[latent dagger]

Pourquoi faire des fusions d états ? Pas plus de joueurs ne participent aux événements ( si ce n est pas moins) . Depuis je ne participe plus à rien , moi qui me plaignais qu il y avait trop d événements. SVS est maintenant intouchable CC aussi RR est toujours injuste ainsi que KOTH , les bunkers je ne sais plus ce que c est, je ne parle pas du vole d azurtane qui restera un non événement . Peut être avec le radar mais au bout de 2 ans et demi de jeu le radar je m en fous un peu . Ah oui peut être attendre les récompenses de compensation ( 20 ou 30 tickets d apparence , là c est très drôle). Il suffit juste que j arrête de discuter sur le tchat pour pouvoir arrêter le jeu . Conclusion : la fusion d état est un interrupteur pour arrêter le jeu

[thorn axle]

Allons sur #🌍︱general_international pour en discuter

[torpid gazelle]

Just for fun. Any of the koth reports mentioning lagging I’m down voting. Putting the info in the right place will get the desired responses.

[steel musk]

I just checked.. not all accounts
It's delete account and all characters in that's account.. it gives you 15 days to change your opinion also and back lol

one account bind with fb and the other one is with gmail.. I could log in to the other one..

will see after 15 days.. I wonder if settlement will stay in map or not lol

[stiff ether]

It will disappear. You just vanish. Poof.

[patent olive]

Better delete Hidden Treasure and fix the game stupid P2P events

[vague merlin]

Hey Bocchi, looks like you have given this feedback on #📋︱feedback-reporting message. Totally i agree, I also expect this to be easy to F2P as well 🙏

[vale yoke]

There's also feedback in the top ten discussion room

Regarding all the p2p paywalled events

Dang, can't link

[vague merlin]

Yeah, there should be changes for the future. At least be given a chance

[vale yoke]

Agreed

[astral stratus]

#1193638064388571187 message

[vale yoke]

I hope we've been able to give them ideas for opening these events up instead of locking them behind a paywall.

Thanks Laly!

[astral stratus]

[vale yoke]

[charred swift]

They already know how to open up the events as that is how a lot of the events were at first. They just decided to close some of the events to those who don’t want to spend. It was a conscious decision by them to raise money. The only way they will change is if people don’t spend on these events.

[vernal moss]

We do fight for these things and push hard for it too. Issue being is if we don’t have the overwhelming support of the posts/ideas/suggestions with the evidence it’s more than likely not going to be considered.
We won’t stop for the players.

[stable anvil]

Why is it devs didnt think for KOTH to have your name at the top since you are prioritizing yourself to get food. Wtf is it always at the bottom of the list

[fleet idol]

It is very frustrating for every koth to Have the same issue with food time after time it's ridiculous that the doves haven't figured this out yet when I assign food to somebody another person should not be disappearing because that means you have to have 1 person who can't even play because I have to be on food to make sure there are big people who have food to move You all can't fix it remove it like mining mayhem

[waxen prawn]

I don't thing they wasted any thought on KOTH but just smashed some half ideas into one event

[velvet storm]

Hi there. I see there is a lot of feedback in #📋︱feedback-reporting if you want to have a look there and upvote a KOTH related post that you agree with. If your specific feedback is not there yet, please create new feedback.

#📋︱feedback-how-to if you are unsure about the format

[digital glacier]

Need to get demoted to r3 😋
Only you see your name in the list then. And you can assign yourself whenever you want.

[digital glacier]

The player assigned looks like they disappear, but they. That player still gets that food count producing

[fleet idol]

Its getting unassigned from people I le who its assigned to

[digital glacier]

It's because you think only 1 player can be assigned to a building at a time

Description of event verses actual gameplay of event are 2 completely different things.

Assigning players to a location gives that individual that buildings production.
I figured this out about 4 events ago when the issue first began for myself (because somehow I magically have never had an issue with assigning players on 1 account)

If i assign Johnny to A1
Then I assign Zack to A1.
Visually, it will show jack.
But both Johnny and Jack are earning that buildings food production.
The stress for r4 to assign certain people have gone completely out the window about 2 months ago.
Its now on the individual to assign themself to the building.
Oh, and yes, that was a change that was made also about 2 months ago. R1 + can assign themself. They don't need an r4 to do it for them.
The really bad thing though is, r4+ see the list of every player that's in the event
Where as r1-r3 only see their own names to assign themself. Making it tons easier for them to assign themself and focus more on the event.

And this is why, descriptions of events need to describe how the game actually works. Or the game needs to work how the description is written. Either way, both with match. And result in less people complaining about a topic because they don't know the actual game vs the description.

[acoustic quartz]

They address so few real issues that I see repeatedly. I see the same complaints every week and I see the same responses every time, which means ”Here’s a new event that only big spenders will benefit from! And, oh yeah, here’s some new stickers!”

I quit playing SoS two weeks ago because of this and so much more. After two years of being insulted, ignored and otherwise treated as if they really don’t care whether I play or not unless I spend the equivalent of some CEO annual salary every month. I’ve given these people enough of my hard earned money just trying to remain somewhat relevant. There is little to no strategy for events in this game anymore. Now it’s just whoever can spend the most money and run all over everyone else.

I thought it would be hard to quit. I thought that I would probably go back in a matter of days. Amazingly, I don’t miss it. Rather, I have found that my stress level has been greatly reduced, I’m saving money already and I don’t have to schedule my real life around the schedules that the developers decide I must be present for to do events.

[digital glacier]

Here's a video showing different players being assigned, and the food regenerated didn't change

[olive sluice]

did you test it with the base only or also with other cities?

[digital glacier]

Not every city, but about 8 or 9 of them.

Not enough data / storage space, or even gonna try to upload a "split up" 1 hour video showing that 😂

[olive sluice]

although I wonder if looking at the food counter actually can tell the small difference between having a city or not, since the base recovery rate alone is 10-20x higher than a city

(without doing the math "food gained/sec")

but I can imagine that you looked at it more detailed

[velvet storm]

[digital glacier]

Wait. I'm deleting that too. Don't need devs to see that and make that bugged like the first release
-1,999,999,999,999,999 food and even alliance score 🤣

Good times. - 2b food or -200b food 😂

[molten comet]

[digital glacier]

Come to think of it. Back then.
I honestly think there were less bugs in koh than there is today 🙈

[outer seal]

we used to have bad working game after updates, but i don't see any efforts to fix this, like it was before. i think there is memory leakage, tired of crushes already. i don't want to use all resources of my pc to make SoS work well and can't understand why requirements are so high as for new modern games

[stable cosmos]

First release of koth was a black screen for 90% of people. Hard not to improve from that.

Also they should have given up right then releasing that to live and not only expecting money around it but continuing to tweak for weeks is foul behaviour

[outer seal]

i don't think they expected money, i've heard they lost about half revenue already. people don't want to pay for bs

[stable cosmos]

It had a store attached, they expected people to pay more to be stronger and win the event. Anything competitive comes with a monetary expectation

[molten comet]

According to Sensor Tower which calculates the in-app purchases

How about site’s ?

Revenue lost is a myth

[stable cosmos]

Whether it worked out is a different matter. But anything they do has cash as the defining factor

[tardy night]

Wut

Maybe don't be making such asinine statements as a moderator. Be on your original player account.

You are allowed one for discord.

Sure the PC store might not be tracked in purchases. The data aggregators also collect download estimates.

You really thinking that net movement to PC store purchases + new player spending is equivalent or higher than 2022? Just compare downloads and then see attrition. 😂