📋︱feedback-discussion

[white turret]

Basically

That’s what happened lol

[tardy night]

Too many who live vicariously. Lol

[white turret]

Just like that gone

Our state looks so strong by bp

It’s so sad

Just a bunch of dead crazy accounts. Or now ftp

Don’t get me wrong we still have spenders and strong people. But nothing compared to the criteria for massive states nowadays which is kinda our pool of matchups…

[granite harness]

It’s all so sad. Game comes to a dumb and overrated waste of time. All events that were fun are now only buggy…

[granite harness]

We had only good matchups when we force ported those big dead acc.

[white turret]

Well I think the game is different now with matchmaking. It only takes into account players who are active now and stats and not BP anymore I think

[unreal lichen]

But active is defined as “as long as u have logged in the last 30d”; that is barely active in my opinion

[tardy night]

That's how it's been for a while. Matchmaking is crap despite it.

And it's intentional. No one misses that big a gap as has been showing up without accounting for it in further matches. Never occurs.

[white turret]

That’s bs in my opinion. But atlest it’s something.

[unreal lichen]

Drop The Beat Premium for $5, but a year ago is unobtainable and KG puts Stackable Drop the Beat (Classic) on top 1-150

Thats unfair, my 498 already have Drop the Beat (Classic) already 1 year used

Give that compesation Drop the Beat (Premium) for those who top 1-150 in 2nd Anniversary event

[austere aurora]

Is there a moderator available for DM ? I need some answers 😬

[safe lake]

My dms are always open

[cloud ridge]

@merry scroll / @feral sinew , when will you both do your job as CMs and actually communicate/ engage with the community of the concerns we've raised.

This isn't just a simple affecting a few players issue. It's affecting multiple people across a large part of the game which could easily be rectified as KG as done in the past before.

So why the delay? Why do you both chose to actively ignore this which has been raised countless times and going on for months? When will you actually take action and help your community instead of helping to penalise us by sitting in silence?

[viscid ore]

why we can't these fragments be used for Throwdown tasks ?

[unreal lichen]

Hasn't worked since LL inception I believe. Has been fedback multiple times.

[cosmic tulip]

This event is a joke right? Offering things for free that people have already maxed/ received on previous events and can’t upgrade any more, along side paid items to progress further that are less value than there weekly deals?

There’s no info on what rewards are available further down the line either.

[viscid ore]

I hate TD, an idiotic event that only serves to waste resources, I've hated it for three years now...this is to justify the fact that I only saw it now!! 😬😬😬😬😬

[viscid ore]

It only serves to make money for FP! Someone will surely throw their money there

[cosmic tulip]

Oh most definitely. Need to do a survey to see if it’s worth wasting money at the start. There has to be better rewards than this as it last 2 days..

[stable cosmos]

The golden frag task has always been hero frags, never legendary. Credit was only given if you used them to upgrade your hero. Not a new feature. Junk now of course because you cannot actually do that task most of the time

[unreal lichen]

[stable cosmos]

Almost good. Except the first upgrade is 16 capsules and even getting this every time would be over a month before i could do a single upgrade

[marble grove]

Am I blind or is this frame not in the game as a skin?

[cosmic tulip]

Drop the beat classic?

Yeah it there

[marble grove]

Yep the lower form

I cannot seem to see it

[cosmic tulip]

You’ve probably already have it activated

[marble grove]

Yep already got it... where is the tier version of it 🙄

I swear I only had 1d skin though before 🤣

[cosmic tulip]

Yep that’s my point lol. See comments above

[marble grove]

Don't worry they'll drop it in 3 week halloween event

[cosmic tulip]

I just can’t wait. There just so much money left over that’s burning a hole in my wallet from the anniversary event!

[vernal pier]

does anyone know if this skill is really meant to make training cost 15% more resources? As it does that. The next skill makes it go faster, but was this skill meant to make training cheaper?

[sick ledge]

still no answer from CM about my moral combat bug

so i lost my money for nothing

[vernal pier]

i think adding tiers to collection sets since last week Wednesday has been bugged.

[frigid vault]

I got one used classic and one in my backpack that I still can't recycle

[ancient stratus]

So I got this

But

Shouldn't there be an option here?

[frigid vault]

Your fragments are for the standard sentinel, you can't craft the premium from fragments

[ancient stratus]

So they're worthless since I already have the standard sentinel. 😑

[frigid vault]

You can upgrade it

[ancient stratus]

How?

Here?

[frigid vault]

Yea

[ancient stratus]

Just need 6 pieces tho 😆 💸

Thanks for the help mate

Makes me feel a little better 😆

[frigid vault]

Yw

[vale yoke]

That makes a lot of sense. Thanks luv!

[wide wraith]

dont expect any answer from CMs or Devs as they are on holiday because of the National Holiday in China which started on the 1st

[ancient stratus]

Which one is better?

[woven spire]

At this point the game is a better dating app then actual game😂

[woven spire]

Helmet

For some reason at some point you get invicible lol

[ancient stratus]

So the scoreboard just privileges the fastest after reset? Seems a bit unfair huh?

[wide wraith]

its always been like that

[ancient stratus]

It was harder before

even whales had a hard time to get to the last level.

[wide wraith]

remember the devs couldnt organise a party for the national day (week) yet alone sort out the game

[ancient stratus]

🤷

[slate badge]

Hello paronfesken! Yes, the rankings are calculated by the time the player finishes the event. That means the first player will achieve rank 1, second will get the rank 2... Even if it does not show the hour there, you can see in other rankings like Colloseum, Aircraft, Hidden quest... etc that there is a timestamp. Its made so player "fight" and compete to get the first place. Its like a race, first one who finishes get the highest prize. But if you don't like the way rewards are given, you can always upload your suggestion in #📋︱feedback-reporting following the template in #📋︱feedback-how-to

[worn dew]

SOS just had another wonderful player leave the game! He had been playing for 4 years, was an incredible asset to his state and will be missed! However I am super proud of him for pulling the plug! 💙 I hope more players take note. These developers could give 2 facks what anyone thinks and it’s all about money in their pockets. Nothing good has ever come from this channel. Might as well delete it.

[austere spoke]

Really proud of him too

[woven spire]

Who

Me

[prime hound]

really not much difference, either one

the ones I try to collect as soon as I can are the backpack and boxing gloves

Luckily now you can put more puppets down with strings as a support hero

It makes the levels much easier

[austere spoke]

You quitting ? 👀🤣

[woven spire]

No but u proud of me right

[terse agate]

Or give us potions only to be used for gens 13 and 14…..
Easy…..
That we can’t get a head start on 15 and 16

[terse agate]

To be honest, this favours a few time zones….
I always thought this was the worst way of ranking

[unkempt bloom]

helllo

i play state 1174

It is not fair for us to play a state ... Plasma 5

and my state Maximum plasma 3

[worn dew]

Lol

Wellll

I promise you they don’t care

[tiny quiver]

Happy for him but the community lost a great asset

[ancient stratus]

I use chef and joker, mind control is better imo. Health buff doesn't do that much imo.

[prime hound]

I always use chef, then rotate between joker, strings, miho, ghost - just to see which one works best for the level

[unreal lichen]

My State have Joker but must joined ZoS 😦

Or I will wait my Alt have Joker inside

[rain swallow]

I just wrote feedback for the monthly inclusion of decorations with bonuses, statue cards and sentinels frags in the skin store, but I remembered that they don't give a damn and I deleted it🥲

[crystal iron]

Will not help xD

[strong grove]

How to win mining mayhem

😬😬

[crystal iron]

[crystal iron]

🤔

@austere spoke

[austere spoke]

🤗🤗

[rain swallow]

But I wanted to finish my Nanami statue, the last one? no, the first 😌 😂

[crystal iron]

You know)
Devs: dont care

[rain swallow]

yes, I wanted my sakura trees around my colony, I thought that in 3 years I would achieve it 🥲

[strong grove]

We had R3 1 and r4. But we could not go to the final 😬

Why

[unreal lichen]

Points?

[rain swallow]

friend, it's for points, if your Alliance scored less points than the rank 1 Alliance you won't go to the final, the final is only with the two rank 1 Alliances, now if your Alliance was rank 1 and you didn't go to the final, it was a bug and you should have documented

you don't lose anything because the final is as boring as the whole event

[strong grove]

Others only had one r3. How did they score more than us?

[rain swallow]

they may have gotten more buildings in the first two days

[unreal lichen]

Gathering

Kills

Occupation

[strong grove]

😯

I need advice

[unreal lichen]

Did you take any screenshots of points rankings?

[strong grove]

No

[unreal lichen]

Then its hard to check now sadly.
I recommend to ss all when you feel that something might not be correct. That way you can check it again later and report if its needed.

[wide wraith]

its points got over the 3 days rather than any specific day

gathering points and/or kill points dont count for the final alliance points

[strong grove]

It's over
Need advice for next match

[wide wraith]

r1 concentrate on them, ignore gathering, only gather on the r2

[pallid willow]

Honestly the dumbest i see from it is when whales want to win it lmao cause you know, they desperate need 6 capsules for 1st place and +3 defense on a 7 days frame

[wide wraith]

if everyone solos you kill the bug quicker

[ancient stratus]

Yeah but a timezone privilege is stupid

[pallid willow]

But what are you missing from it tho? Don’t worry frame is not even permanent lol nothing missing really

Look at top 30+ rewards theres almost no difference

[unreal lichen]

It depends lots of alliances who you are against. If your alliance is more powerful than others, then you might want to try get 2 R3s on first day.
And as Shadowlord said, for monsters in R1 and R2 you want to get them fast. If you get 2x R3s on first day, it will keep your R2 safe on second day.

[ancient stratus]

It's a competition. Let's make it fair.

[pallid willow]

Except they don’t stress much over it

Well all competitions in sos are mostly at reset since always 😅

[tepid rivet]

[ancient stratus]

Some are, and it's still stupid

[unreal lichen]

I woke up for hero challenges once at 3 am and got million and five bugs while trying to get good rank😂
That was my only time, quite enough.

[rain swallow]

mm is one of the events with the worst prizes, it only loses to AD because they don't give prizes

[unreal lichen]

Told you I'm bad bad

[strong grove]

Thanks

[tepid rivet]

[unreal lichen]

[pallid willow]

For me it’s hilarious to see the chinese whale waking up very early to win it tbh 😂😂 but i get your point

[ancient stratus]

Throwdown is worse imo. You have to put a ton of resources on it .

[tepid rivet]

Just do hero gear or troop task from personal, say yolo and stop at 7500

[ancient stratus]

Better to save for svs or sotf

[tepid rivet]

Yes

[rain swallow]

Nah, I just train and get about 1300 points a day with exclusive tasks, and then I still get almost the same amount of plasma as I get in mm

[ancient stratus]

I do the journey to glory and combine the burden

[tepid rivet]

Well this yes but going wild for 14 capsules is .. strange. But some do love TD

I said make all tasks personal like 2 years ago but who cares about player's opinion

[ancient stratus]

Speedups or are you lurching for the "increase troop power"?

[tepid rivet]

Its not an alliance event, it creates malice between players

[unreal lichen]

Just spaff explorer missions

[tepid rivet]

Well now with fast thingy

But still not worth it lol

75p

[ancient stratus]

Fighting for that sweet golden first 😂

[tepid rivet]

Yeah that's why I'm saying it creates malice between players

They should stop selling it as alliance event

[ancient stratus]

Just scrap it 😆

[tepid rivet]

That would be best but it's in MIGO so poor us

[rain swallow]

no, I train troops normally, I don't even spend my speedups in TD week

[wide wraith]

i have been calling for that for 3 years

[ancient stratus]

So you use the ✊

[tepid rivet]

Pretty sure our feedbacks regarding TD was not proper enough so devs haven't been able to encrypt the magic meaning behind it

[ancient stratus]

Don't have time to wait a half hour minimum for a task to appear.

[rain swallow]

but yes, I hate TD, but I hate mm more, a lost hour of life

[ancient stratus]

Mm is still a good bbq 😆

[wide wraith]

i make sure my alliance stays at only needing 4800 points for migo

[tepid rivet]

You only need 4800? 😒

[rain swallow]

exclusive task, don't you have it?👀

[ancient stratus]

Mm is better than azurtane imo. Settlements are not attackable= boring

[wide wraith]

i would rather have MM than AD which as far as i can is useless

[tepid rivet]

I would not choose between cholera and pestilence

Scrap both

[ancient stratus]

This but golden

[unreal lichen]

Hmm I mean you could.....

[tepid rivet]

No, both is a waste of time. More for R4s to log on every 30 min to reset tasks or try changing garrison when the buttons play fetch with you

[ancient stratus]

Why is there not an auto refresh and faster refresh time?

[tepid rivet]

Cause they love to see us bleeding

[rain swallow]

but the one that only you can see and take

[torn burrow]

It’ll be your first two options

[ancient stratus]

Yeah, that one is unobtainable in my alliance 😆

[tepid rivet]

Really

The 560 also?

[ancient stratus]

I don´t have time or patience to lurk for that

[rain swallow]

yes, I get the two exclusives a day and that's it, that's what I do at TD😂

[tepid rivet]

I like hero gear, 1240p

But it's rare

[torn burrow]

You can reset your exclusive ones, those only show for you. Not the rest of your alliance though.

[ancient stratus]

Use it on the Treasure capsules or regular hero gear?

[tepid rivet]

Treasure capsules exchange

[ancient stratus]

Yeah, I'm r4

[tepid rivet]

Used to recycle but now I do this

[rain swallow]

I like to get this one on the day of the journey of glory, which scores with hero gear, but really, if it doesn't appear the first time, I won't even try 😂

[ancient stratus]

aha, yeah but its still recourses that can be spent in svs or sotf

[torn burrow]

No no, the first two on your throwdown options are YOURS, only you see those two options. They are exclusive to you. Even an r2 gets to refresh their own 2 exclusives

[ancient stratus]

I know

[civic star]

[torn burrow]

So you never get the troop power up in your exclusive area?

[tepid rivet]

Which I do, all 40 chances. The maybe 1.5 hero gear I get once a week won't hurt me personally. You can get lots of this during trap. Mostly I do the fists though

[ancient stratus]

Really rarely, I don´t have time or patience to look at that timer 😆

[tepid rivet]

[torn burrow]

Dude, thats all I would do first reset isn’t as long

[civic star]

Oh loving that emoji 😍

[torn burrow]

[tepid rivet]

5 min, 10 min

[ancient stratus]

💤

[torn burrow]

Yea, it should be a shorter time for those

[civic star]

May I add, this is what I noticed for personal….never ever take any task until your exclusive one’s pops as training troops one…..if you pick others the odds of getting them is reduced

[tepid rivet]

Yeah but the two in upper left take 5 min when you refresh

If you take both, it's 10 min

Then another 10 if you take both

Then refresh at reset again

You can get 6 personal tasks withing 30 min best case

[ancient stratus]

Its still not worth anythin but the migo points

[tepid rivet]

The easiest one's

With the least resources to spend

[ancient stratus]

yay...

[tepid rivet]

General tasks are all speedups or spend or some crappy 200 hero gear

You also have plasma in personal so you can combine with journey. General tasks don't give plasma

[ancient stratus]

Its an event just to drain you

[tepid rivet]

Of course

Like every other lately

[ancient stratus]

svs is at least a fight

[tepid rivet]

Log in several times a day for some poor rewards

For 6 days

[ancient stratus]

And to watch a timer

tick tock tick tock

[tepid rivet]

That's why I said better make all tasks personal. So you have 20 personal tasks to refresh for yourself and choose from if they won't scrap the event completely

I could finish MIGO in 1 day and yolo

No R4 job

[unreal lichen]

Like this

[vivid hawk]

having played the same...old....throwdow for years my team are tired of it, now we just yoyo between expert and champion. better using the push in other event,

TD is beyond outdated

[ancient stratus]

The temptation 😆

[tepid rivet]

Too precious 😂

[ancient stratus]

Just one touch on the yellow button and you can forget about throwdown 😆

[grand summit]

Hi! Can I hide my collector level on my profile?? I don't want everyone to see how weak I am🤣

[tepid rivet]

If you're R5/R4, you still have to refresh for the rest of the crew. It's draining

[tepid rivet]

I don't think so? 😂

[ancient stratus]

I demote myself 😆

[tepid rivet]

I promote extra R4s to stop people complaining about no task resetting 😂

[ancient stratus]

Smart

[tepid rivet]

Maybe but I shouldn't have to. No one should have to watch the clock and log to refresh something for 14 capsules and some MIGO points

[austere spoke]

And if you refresh people complain they wanted the task you refreshed 🤣

[bleak wolf]

It’s more than Migo points
Rank 1 in TD is good

[tepid rivet]

Yeah? 14 capsules, 10k bios, few speeds

I get 14 capsules from digging a week

[bleak wolf]

and the points for journey to glory 😂

[tepid rivet]

And how much do I need to invest to rank 1?

[fringe shadow]

Yeah, us states who got skipped gen 13 are definitely at a disadvantage now especially when our matching pool consists of states 1-1000. More often than not, we get matched with ancient states sub 300. We have no chance against them, even though we have gen 14 and almost a full gen 15 march. In the end, we are still 1 limitless march less (referring to gen 13, gen 7-12 doesn't count).

[tepid rivet]

We have 90 active players, good luck

[bleak wolf]

That’s good

[tepid rivet]

Yeah but also means people need to clock in every 30 min to refresh. It put unnecessary pressure on R4s for poor rewards. No one rewards them the Time invested

[bleak wolf]

Yes, but with 90 active players I’m sure you have enough R4s for resetting the TD tasks

unless you only have 5 R4s

[tepid rivet]

On non TD weeks yes

It would just be so much easier if all tasks would be personal. All could compete within their range of time an rss invested and no one would have to bother about 30 min refresh times. Or fight over golden fists

[bleak wolf]

You could submit this as a feedback

[tepid rivet]

Nah, they didn't care about it past 2 years, they won't now either

[bleak wolf]

Yes, it took some time.. refresh, waiting for 30 min. And then nearly same task

[tepid rivet]

Yeah 😂

Or exactly same

Anyway, gotta go do some refreshing I guess 🤣 Have fun y'all with TD

[bleak wolf]

Game keeps you busy

Have a nice day

[tidal apex]

Everyone should have their own personal task board for throwdown like it is with those 2 first bonus tasks. Then no need to bother other people, you want to you can refresh tasks every 30 mins

As it is now it is just big annoyance to r4+

[rain swallow]

I've already suggested a button to delete all tasks at once, I've already suggested a check box next to the tasks so we can select only the tasks we want to delete, I've already suggested a type of auto reset for us to configure like, "reset all the tasks every 30 minutes, or every 1 hour", things that are not complicated and exist in many games, and that greatly improve the quality of R4s' peace of mind during this hellish week, but as they don't sell packs, they never will be improved

[tame lintel]

Thank god they haven't listened. All kinda useless suggestions 😅.
You make the easiest event difficult with all your over worring

[rain swallow]

exactly, I think about the other R4s, I don't reset any tasks and only get the exclusive ones, if the other R4s want to reset that's fine, I retired from this job, I don't even look at the chat during TD week

They can scream all they want to reset the tasks, I don't reset them 😌

[steel musk]

reset tasks plz

[tame lintel]

What a great r4😅

🤣🤣

[rain swallow]

but at least I found someone who likes to reset 20 tasks one by one every 30 minutes, do you want to go to my Alliance?

[tame lintel]

I'm sorry you find clicking a few button to be a burden😅

[steel musk]

I reset tasks when i am on.. only

[rain swallow]

You don't need to feel sorry for me, I don't even know you

[tame lintel]

Team event hun. Team work.
You only have 1x r4? And no members?
Members do most of the resetting lol
R4 just wack away doubles and small ones under 70k.
Many r4s. Not an issue.

[tidal apex]

Being expected to log in every 30 mins is a big burden

[rain swallow]

thanks

we have life

[tame lintel]

That's your own expectation put onto yourself

😘😘

[rain swallow]

we have trap, goriila event, mm, AD, bunkers

[tame lintel]

Soooo stressful

😅

[rain swallow]

so permissive

[steel musk]

for button which reset all tasks.. it won't work.. because it will delete good tasks also which players want it

[tame lintel]

All tasks reset at same time is your issue

Don't do it

Not all members login at same time. Should be rolling times

Natural

[rain swallow]

but they ask to reset all tasks because it gives you more chances of getting the one that gives a lot of points, the training one that people love

[tame lintel]

You put your members against each other when reset all at same time

[rain swallow]

no, my members are very calm, they are sweet

[steel musk]

could work.. it's still we can click or just skip it and delete some tasks

[tame lintel]

Auto delete/reset is bad idea. You don't know what tasks people want.

At best they should just make more "easier" tasks ..as that what yall want..."easy"

[rain swallow]

oky

[tame lintel]

I'd vote for deleting the event all together though😍😍

[sand basalt]

Moose it's a bit extreme delete all in a row, but you can suggest it

[worldly sable]

The milestones are still decent for most small players imo

Like me

[tame lintel]

I know. But After 3.5 years, I've learned. The devs can't fix anything except the non-broken events... so it's best they not try...just delete and try something else...

[stable cosmos]

Milestones are ok. The 7500 target for migo is horrible

[tame lintel]

The milestones arnt bad. Nope. But the tasks are outdated, boring, and repetitive..
Even a plunder task..would be a simple addition that adds a bit. But nope.
Also Like most events. Throwdown still rewards useless gold frags aswell...never updated.

But our garrison has been fixed🙄

[stable cosmos]

Would mind less if the non premium tasks gave drastically more points. 7200 minutes of research speedups should be 4000 points by itself

[tame lintel]

The only reason throwdown stays...is because whales like myself and bigger. Use it to load up on the good packs for sotf/svs the next week

[stable cosmos]

Also it tries to make people empty their backpacks for garbage so they won't have it for the good stuff and will need to buy packs then

[lean leaf]

Whaaaat 6 personal tasks ?

For us its 5min 10min and then none till reset lol

And its been like that for years 🤣

[stable cosmos]

Random for me. 5 min 5 min sometimes 4 hours, sometimes 6, sometimes a day

[lean leaf]

lucky guys 🤣

[digital glacier]

Yeah carol.
People might actually start taking 15 + explore challenge missions because there's now plunder feature

[terse agate]

According to the devs that doesn’t matter….

@merry scroll @feral sinew perhaps read this! But, yeah, none of the devs care about the states they made special…..

[olive sluice]

we skipped Gen 13 and 14... and almost no way to get them, since we also need to upgrade 15. Welcome to the club of screwed players.
It's all of us who don't matter for the devs... just the few whales matter. They have to triple buy.

.. until they have no joiners anymore

[fringe shadow]

we're losing players almost weekly now....other than losing rally leaders, some were very dedicated and active joiners. 😭

[wraith vapor]

MM is designed weirdly, like most events.
It's not what u hold like most said. We have gone to final without even holding R4 and didn't make it after holding R4 😂. It's the accumulation of points collected over three days. If you hold two R3, your own R1&2. And another couple R2 you get way more points.
Points are an accumulation of occupation, kills and gathering as someone already stated. Although do not gather at R2 on day 1 as its just a stepping stone. Only issue which may occur is how many rally leads you have and actives to be able to hold multiple buildings. Also if you opponent is stronger and ypu double rally them. Yes u may win the building but they get way more points. Also kill points only count/ add to final alliance points, when u fight at the buildings and not on stats building.

[olive sluice]

we are also losing whales.. they don't want triple pay

[stable cosmos]

Thats bad, but also good in a way as fup will not recognise their fault and squeeze harder then maybe wonder why revenue keeps dropping. Gotta be a tipping point somewhere

[olive sluice]

Kill points count only for personal points.. look at the alliance points, there are clear steps, based on the number of the different research labs you hold at the end of each day, added up

[wooden dew]

Hi Shirosei, good idea. I think having a personal panel of tasks that (in addition to the 2 exclusives we have right now) one can refresh at their leisure not only eliminates the ongoing burden R4 have of resetting every 30 minutes, but also creates a more positive alliance environment that isn’t “first come first serve.” Bare minimum, even just an expansion of the current exclusives from 2 to 4 or something like that would be an improvement. More solo options would certainly be well received, imo. Thanks for sharing. I’ll forward that for you.

[olive sluice]

we are losing both... many also quit because of the overload of events, they can't keep up, and then the fun is gone

[fleet yarrow]

Yes the one week is way too much. Then the other week kinda boring. Needs balance

Has the garrison issue been discussed

???????

During RR yesterday game was messing up the garrison lead. I did not rally but joined. It put part of my stuff but not my stats. The mix was not good. We easily lost the building and couldnt adjust it.. the rest of event we removed the one player and had them resend. With that and the unbelievable lag.. RR was no fun at all

PLEASE do not mess with throwdown

[wooden dew]

Hi Cyan, this is a fantastic observation. The points rewarded for completing some of those higher resource demanding, non-exclusive tasks (but sometimes even exclusives) is just bizarre, imo. Spending 5 days worth of speedups should yield significantly more points than what’s currently awarded (3-digit earnings) and should correlate to the length of time (alot) it takes the average player to accumulate the 5 days worth. Personally, I avoid burning massive amounts speedups during AT solely because of this longlasting discrepancy, but for those who prefer to still - it 100% needs to be updated as you mentioned. Thanks for sharing that! It’s likely been submitted before but I’ll gladly forward it for you nonetheless.

[fleet yarrow]

PLEASE do not mess with throwdown

[stable cosmos]

Yeah. They play with throwdown they'll break it

Like everything else they touch

[unkempt bloom]

[stray acorn]

We have same skins in store again, birthday one, carnival one and another ugly one... there are plently of old skins that we still can buy but game instead always offering us same old ugly skins

[magic anchor]

we only get 1 "good" thing at a time😂

[pallid willow]

So far all the rr reports on defense i saw that as of now the new garrison thing was not happening in rr 👀 all strong leaders were taking the hits and providing the stats

[pallid willow]

Did they? Today i completed one of my 200 exclusives in my alt account and when i went to claim it it was gone as if i had refresh but then next refresh task were only 150% ones 😒

Like, who ate my 200

[worldly sable]

During RR I launched a rally and another rally leader ended up with lead when we took the building 😒

[spice saffron]

I agree 100% with this. MM, AD, and other alliance wide events I can’t think of right now would have been perfect if we were still in lockdown….

[olive sluice]

ît's only 120% though..

[pallid willow]

Blablabla you know what i meant😂

[olive sluice]

yep.
But I've luckily never seen such a bug.

[pallid willow]

Me neither until today 😭 i even thought but wtf tho am i getting alzheimer or something maybe i claimed and forgot 1 sec after? But i don’t think so cause it was 1200 points and my migo goal was the same

Stupid sos matrix

[white turret]

But we not that crap was like over 2 years ago😂😂🤣🤦‍♂️

I guess the devs still in lockdown or something🤣🤣

[spice saffron]

Yes, exactly lol

Why else would they keep releasing events? 🤣

[white turret]

They must still be living in 2020🤣🤣

[wraith vapor]

Not in lockdown, they are locked in mom's basement 😂

[white turret]

lol

[stable cosmos]

They think we're all in lockdown saving money on the commute and all the other stuff we'd have bought in town because they think we have thousands spare for their constant bundles and packs

[haughty timber]

Do they ever give any feedback for the issues we experience in game?

[junior bone]

MM matchmaking is bad, twice we were put in master because we couldn’t get matched in elite

[frigid vault]

@wraith vapor where were you hiding in HA?

[wraith vapor]

U mean AH or HA 🤣

[haughty timber]

I just played heist and had to reboot game 5 times in first 10 mins!!!

[frigid vault]

Ah

[wraith vapor]

South East of the central reservoir

Were u in my battlefield?

[frigid vault]

I had to go after 13 cats trying to keep up with you two

[wraith vapor]

He was way ahead of us anyway

I usually don't do it, only 150k but tonight felt like playing properly

[frigid vault]

I know, didn't thought I'll get him but he was fighting for center so I could take his other tiles

[wraith vapor]

He must be maxed I am assuming?

I didn't even try

[frigid vault]

Maxed monkey and got skin, T-Rex 43 skills maxed and unlocked all special skills

With that behemoth power I don't think he need heroes to kick me out

[wraith vapor]

Always lovely to see that 🤣. AH is honestly about tricks and skills if u are decently strong. U don't need to be very strong to rank well

[wraith vapor]

Probably not, you and me both I m sure. He will use sarge and we will be out

[frigid vault]

I agree that why I like it, can give a good fight for way stronger people than me

[wraith vapor]

Yup same but rewards are useless so don't bother most of the time.

[frigid vault]

I had lucky, Maddie and Robert with behemoth and aircraft he attacked me with gen7 and behemoth, was about 33 rounds before he won

[wraith vapor]

That's still stupid how he can win with 6-8 gens lower heroes 😒

[frigid vault]

Not more than a scratch on him

[chilly dragon]

MM matchmaking fixed for the 10th time, were down 70k matchmaking score from two of the alliances in our bracket, 180k to 110k, Bravo funplus, youve done it again 👏🏻

[pallid willow]

Anyone else can’t enter game?

[fleet yarrow]

Agreed they ugly, and most have them, be nice get one option to collections

[fleet yarrow]

Was the rally to take, then garrison was messed up and couldn't switch it

[pallid willow]

Only me then?

[fleet yarrow]

I got in , briefly, then out, then in..lol.. typical MM

But then it's fun😂

[pallid willow]

But im not in mm battle now 😭😭

I wanna know if is just me to delete and download or if it’s bug in general

Now is working

[white turret]

Oh I fought him in AZ. He strong af

[white turret]

Wait what you did that? Someone is strong

[spice saffron]

Nah, my game crashed twice now while doing intels 🤦‍♀️

I couldn’t get into the game after the crashes, just had to force close it

And log back in again

[spice saffron]

Oh for sure lol 😂

[tame walrus]

Totally agree with this.

[tardy night]

It's fixed just like how they slowed down for anniversary.

It happens in their marketing. But the finance team loses the memo

[tame walrus]

I think making up to 10-20k gap only on matchmaking would be much more fair since its ridiculously facing team with lets say 50k+ power score on mm, rr and koh

Cant make exact score

But thats the parameters for lets say much more make sense to deal. I mean by making crazy gap on matchmaking. Well.. they will loose revenue drastically with this problem if they not solve it

[tardy night]

You're not getting the point. They make more money this way so they don't care about fairness.

[chilly dragon]

I mean all games that are pay to win inherently have this effect, they don’t need to push it that hard, no other game pushes this hard for matchmaking disparity. But I get what you’re saying .

[tardy night]

People who pushed for state transfers to introduce the imbalanced teams also largely to blame for this disparity.

Where you had teams with 3 whales and 27 support against 4-5 whales and 26-25 support of varying strength

You now have the moronic setup of 10 whales vs 2

And the game team enabled it.

Playing with "friends"

All for money for funplus. They don't care what works as long as it brings money. And the leaderboard chasers don't care long as it gets them a win.

[chilly dragon]

Funny enough that exact same alliance we’re up against have two maxed players, like I’m talking literally maxed. But again just like the matchmaking. It’s dumb. I just don’t wanna give them any credit for it being a marketing strategy because the game is plummeting in revenue. All of it contributes for the game dying slowly but surely.

[tardy night]

They're fine with that, the money being milked goes into financing new games where they squeeze more people blissfully ignorant of the leeching. Much more easier to do on a new crowd.

Most whales are just whales. Not megalodons. Once the point is breached where milking them doesn't outweigh the costs involved in finding enough of them, they go make another game. Reskinned, under a different studio. Where people can keep arguing how much better it was with a clone of KG/funplus/imagendary lol

[chilly dragon]

100% that’s how almost all app games work, but sos in particular could have had more success, but they casted into the fires of Mordor like every other game.

[harsh owl]

Where is the A.H channel?

A.H matching and all game matching is off if they simply repurposed the attack rule of -3/+3

Ya'll have "bring 'em back", for what? To be attacked or never meet event goals because whales are always around and doing what whales do?

I know SOS doesn't care, but I just have to vent.

[tired sedge]

I don’t think there is a AH channel

[pallid willow]

😭

Give me stamina funplus

[harsh owl]

Which is shocking given it's an older event than some they have listed? How does that even happen? (rhetorical question) 😂

[tired sedge]

Eh idk not all events have channels

But you can just talk about AH feedback in here

[midnight vigil]

Highly encourage your feedback to be posted in #📋︱feedback-reporting Just make sure to use the format shown in the pinned messages.

[tired sedge]

Shoo you

[harsh owl]

What percentage of feedback has FunPlus implemented based on user feedback?

[tired sedge]

You have stamina issues?

[harsh owl]

Show me 66% or higher, and I'm game. It seems far less, which is a waste of my time because it comes across as falling on deaf ears

[tired sedge]

I’ve seen quite recently more n more feedbacks have been took into account but if devs took all feedbacks then we’d have bright pink unicorns with rainbow coloured poop running around map

[midnight vigil]

That's a stat I don't have, but I do know they try to listen to feedback and bugs and fix what they can. Don't get me wrong, not saying they're perfect, but I think they try.

[tired sedge]

No they don’t

[hollow gyro]

wot

[midnight vigil]

Shoo you

[tired sedge]

I been asking for unicorns for 3 years

Where’s my damn unicorns

[midnight vigil]

Would you like me to submit that as a suggestion Onion

[tired sedge]

Go for it

Idk how you gunna format it cos I just know I want a pretty unicorn instead of an ugly beastly Dino

[midnight vigil]

More than happy to. Just need your IGN and state please.

[tired sedge]

You don’t need IGN for feedbacks

[midnight vigil]

No but it helps lol

[tired sedge]

No it doesn’t

[stable cosmos]

They have made a couple of very tiny changes based on feedback but mostly they've only made changes when something is hilariously wrong

Alliance duels first release had a ton of feedback. They did some of that, very poorly

[tired sedge]

First release of alliance duels was shambles

[stable cosmos]

The existence of the platinum coin store is probably in response to feedback, ditto for effortless progress.

But of course once they made things a little easier they had to double down on making it harder again...

[pallid willow]

Yes i do 😭😭

[tired sedge]

Yikes I never did come across someone who had stamina shortages

[pallid willow]

Do you even play the game often or you’re one of those who enter game for one hr per day to do one intel and 5 demons?

[tired sedge]

What would be point in doing 1 intel

[stable cosmos]

I do most of my intel and a number of fiends. I don't do explorer intel and avoid survivors if possible

[tired sedge]

I do em until it doesn’t give me anymore

[pallid willow]

Cause at this point if you’re not being short in stamina is either cause you have like 2k bottles stored or just barely play the game so of course no need much stamina

[stable cosmos]

Its a bit hard at the end of the day, but thats cos do stuff before bed, if i waited 8 hours id be fine

I'd like more, but its not killing me now that dreadbeasts work for dailies and migo

[pallid willow]

But why would you do 3 demons only, if you do 5 demons first and then the dreadbeasts all 10 give manuals for heroe appointment

[harsh owl]

Very interesting. Going to have to grab this mate. Survivors be damned 🤣

[pallid willow]

While if you break that cycle and do one dreadbeast before doing the 5th demon then only 5 will give manuals

[pallid willow]

I do this too tho

[stable cosmos]

I don't min max for manuals

[pallid willow]

Well my heroe appointment is not maxed so i care

[stable cosmos]

Nor is mine. Got loads to go. Only upgrade them during sotf

[midnight vigil]

Your feedback has been submitted 😊

[tired sedge]

I don’t see it

It should be in feedback reporting channel unless my eyes are broken

[midnight vigil]

You can find it here: #📋︱feedback-reporting message

Let me know if you'd like me to change it at all.

[tired sedge]

Much better

[midnight vigil]

I personally think the idea of a unicorn bohemeth is awesome but I come from a generation that watched "The Last Unicorn"

[tired sedge]

Behemoth*

Btw

okay I’ll stop being difficult

[unreal lichen]

I want an armoured Wombat first

They can engage in a battle to the death...... called Mortal Wombat

[stable cosmos]

You get an armoured monkey, just spend $2000 to get anjelica

[unreal lichen]

Wombat or nothing

[tired sedge]

Don’t take the spotlight off my unicorn

[unreal lichen]

The Armoured wombat can ride the unicorn. It can be like a sidekick, the comedy accomplice if you will

[tired sedge]

Okay yes I want that

[harsh owl]

😳

[tardy night]

More like 10k cuz it's only showing up if top 20 rank lol

Pay to play game. Survival of spenders !

[cloud ridge]

@merry scroll / @feral sinew , when will you both do your jobs as CMs and actually communicate / engage with the community of the concerns we've raised.

This isn't just a simple affecting a few players issue. It's affecting multiple people across a large part of the game which could easily be rectified as KG has done before.

So why the delay? Why do you both chose to actively ignore this which has been raised countless times and going on for months? When will you actually take action and help your community instead of helping to penalise us by sitting in silence?

[odd umbra]

i see a Problem for Thursday this week - too much big Events

MM (1 hour)
Alliance Duell (1 hour)
Trap(30 min)
Horde (45 min)

[cloud ridge]

We have that problem almost everyday 🥲, to many events...

[warm phoenix]

Hi Luna, I feel the same 😆.. It would be great if you post this as a feedback on #📋︱feedback-reporting

[snow thunder]

Add Behemoth rallies too😅

[odd umbra]

I forgot behemoth rallye

[snow thunder]

I have anxiety thinking about it knowing that I have to run multiple accounts 😅

[tardy night]

Add throwdown, JtG, infected rallies, hero challenges, engine summons and more

[odd umbra]

I run only 1 account and it is too much

[tardy night]

They want an 8 hour gaming time from you where you pay them. And they laugh their way to the bank.

Daily!

[snow thunder]

And hopefully we have a break to eat something during the day 😂

[odd umbra]

That is small against this big Events 🙈

[tardy night]

Throwdown takes more time than any of them if you wait for the right task to show.

Especially with the new changes.

[odd umbra]

I do every day 4 throwdown tasks

[snow thunder]

But if you want to keep the alliance rank, need to do some alts too and so on 😒

[tardy night]

Great for you. Doesn't change that throwdown with new changes is absurd in how little meaningful tasks show up

Not buying packs to do throwdown. Nor spending 50k biocaps for it.

[stable cosmos]

The apparent task alterations in throwdown are bad. I guess we should be thankful they didn't change the points...

[wide wraith]

why do the mods still tell people to post in feedback reporting when they know, or should know that the devs wont be around till at least the 8th if not the 9th because of the national chinese day or more correctly the 7 days national holiday

[civic star]

Shadow lord, that’s because from reporting channels mods collect them onto sheets to get all counts and consolidation of similar suggestions/issues hence we encourage to keep them posting there

Sorry guys am still reading back regarding ThrowDown so far I gathered and personal feel, hahahaha we desperately need better task…..can you help me come up with list of task that you will like to see in ThrowDown?

[wide wraith]

we need TD to be scrapped

[civic star]

Got it, 🫡 would you like me to post it on your behalf? And main reason is it uses too many resources to score points? Or?

[wide wraith]

it uses too many resources, risk v rewards makes it non viable. rewards would need to be at least 10 times better to make it only just viable. something needs to be done about the tasks, no more ones encouraging the buying of packs, auto refresh after a reasonable length of time say 1 hour

[civic star]

Oh that’s great point…..I was thinking for rewards shall we add completion potions/serum behemoth and aircraft materials aswel?

[stable cosmos]

Get it out of migo at the bare minimum

[wide wraith]

i agree

[civic star]

I hear you, I dnt think I have ever managed to get Migo full points for this one….I just find it too tedious

[wide wraith]

i get the migo points then couldnt care less

[stable cosmos]

Throwdown isn't that bad for newer players. But 7500 points is horrible for anybody. If it matched the last prize, eh maybe, but its an extra 3000 on top

[wide wraith]

and i thought 4800 was bad enough

[civic star]

Okay leme quickly draft and leme know if you guys approve

Observation

ThrowDown task, with all current changes on how to upgrade heros skills and new features. Waiting on one task after tons of refreshes is tedious.

Consequences

World event needs 7500 points, which in current state seems rather impossible, players are left with either buying packs or spending bios to reach mark. And rewards ratios as to amount of resources used in this event simply is not enticing

Solution

• remove from Migo= let players decide if they want to participate in this event or not, do not force us by making it part of Migo points requirement.

• risk vs reward= for amount of resources used rewards needs to be x10 of what are currently being provided. Add state age appropriate rewards like but not limited to; hero completion potions, red crystals, behemoth and aircraft materials

• task= consider all the changes made to the game recently and add appropriate task that players in all state brackets can complete

• if none of the above possible just discontinue the event

[woven spire]

I though they fixed matchmaking

Why are we matched with top 5 of the game

😂

[stable cosmos]

Because they will never fix matchmaking. You've been matched with top 5. Spend to beat them. Thats the logic

[woven spire]

VAL, BOP, HOW

😂😂😂😂

I save myself a good 4 hours

[civic star]

Cyan @wide wraith lol sorry for tags but do that draft represents everything you wanted to for td?

[stable cosmos]

The world is a nicer place when you ignore matchmaking. Sometimes you'll be the beat stick, sometimes you'll be the sacrifice

[wide wraith]

looks good to me

[stable cosmos]

Impossible no, annoying and boring, yes

[civic star]

Ah sorry, hahahaah matchmaking is one of the trickiest thing….they still have to figure out how to make it just right

[woven spire]

Ye i guess we win 1 r3

[stable cosmos]

No apologising for matchmaking. They'll never fix it. They haven't in 4 years. Its not getting fixed

[woven spire]

And see prof iq from up close

Something we really want to see

We dreamed of it

Or maybe just change name to I QUIT

[wide wraith]

World event needs a maximum of 7500 points depending on level

[civic star]

Oh yeah ooop🤭 I am struggling Monday blues here

Editing now and it’s up for voting #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[woven spire]

So marchmaking Pool got smaller cause more alliances think wtf why we even play this?

[stable cosmos]

Matchmaking is only kinda fair if its like, 6v6 in RR

[civic star]

Well with time it was bound to happen, players quit game due to several reasons heheheh u can take your pick…..but matchmaking is tricky…..especially for events where whole alliance bp is calculated

[woven spire]

Serveral reasons

There is only one

Getting forced to quit

That can be due spending or because you need to join top alliances otherwise no chance

[civic star]

Hey there can be drama too? 🧐 lol

[woven spire]

This game is just trash

At this point i question my choices

[woven spire]

I didnt see Drama for so long. Dev team got all the attention

[civic star]

Lucky you, we had massive massive ones….was bit hard to navigate at times…..but I do understand your sentiments……

[harsh owl]

Is there a reason why FunPlus doesn't use audience segmentation?

[stable cosmos]

They've had 4 years to deal with it. Still the same as always. No changes. Sometimes you get lilucky but 99% its a mismatch one way or the other

[harsh owl]

I'm in favor of removing it as well.

[tardy night]

Why do you think they don't? 👀

[harsh owl]

Actually, I just checked across 2 states and 3 accounts. They do offer audience segmentation based on P lvl and I'm guessing some other variables. You also see audience segmentation when you log into the game. It's not as tight as it should be as a P3 has very different needs than say a P8 or P10. Yet, when I check two of my accts which have enough spread to not even be close, the task rewards are almost identical sans for 2. That's poor audience segmentation.

[tardy night]

They don't segment based on what the audience needs. They segment based on what their data shows that will make the audience spend.

Counter intuitive, but little other logic behind the 50k biocap tasks showing up. They want the peeps who can spend to either have their time wasted or go do the hassle free task of spending.

FTP accounts will almost never get those tasks.

Barely even 15k biocaps

[harsh owl]

Thx for that comment. It sounds about right to me after digesting it. It probably has nothing to do with what we need to advance but what will get us to spend, as you stated. The truth in your comment is me now staring at a screen on my other iPad where more bundles for purchase than I've recently remembered are the available tasks. Clearly they're telling me to spend

[civic star]

You boop me and am here😅

[tardy night]

Almost nothing in the game is non deliberate when it comes to nudging people towards spending.
From matchmaking, to the Maddie packs that show up at the start of the game. Everything is deliberate.

[stable cosmos]

Except the bugs. They're probably accidents, preventable ones, but most likely accidents. Specially as they prevent spending

[tardy night]

Those are probably stemming from an overworked lean team

Which has to stick to a 20 day release schedule no matter what

[stable cosmos]

Lack of a few controls as well most likely that would mean an overworked team had a backstop that would send issues back up the chain a bit more

Their advertising dept has enough money and resource though to hurl out so many fake ads

[harsh owl]

"Everything is deliberate" - yes and no. Their designers don't know when to use checkboxes vs radio buttons in some instances. I can give you about 10 such examples, so from a UX/UI standpoint their mistakes are intentional and many times it does not affect spending, it's simply the wrong element or flow based on empirical evidence and an experienced team

[stable cosmos]

"Experienced"

They don't have an experienced team.

[tardy night]

They mostly hire fresh graduates to keep costs low I think

[stable cosmos]

Kingsgroup were. The people we have now can't do more than bolt stuff on. Any time they try to change existing elements... well, bad things happen

[drowsy bone]

Anything change since I've been in sos discord jail? Thrown in for voicing dissatisfaction

Oh nope, business as usual. FP as incompetent as ever

Highlights of the week:

Garrison bug during cc

More players quitting, including the state's highest spender

In game code, ironically called "SosOctober" with only 3000 redemption chances. I guess I'll stay in September then

Another round of claw machine event, except this time we don't even get free tries. Pay to play model, it isn't even just pay to win any more

New game coming out in early 2024 from FP. Licensed by Warner. Way to go dudes, that's one way to make the unpopular cousin of Marvel even worse (Before you point out they have mobile pay to win games too, let me add some perspective, people there are saying they have spent years building their teams and surprise, they're still relevant. And the pay wall is $13,000 in total. Not $13,000 per month)

Hero completion flasks not being counted for sotf

Legendary frags not being counted for sotf if you use them to raise talents

Sos is now like a cockroach den after a nuclear war. All the good stuff is gone and only the bugs remain

So, if you think I'm being toxic for thinking that a, feedback is pointless, b, funplus are completely and utterly incompetent and greedy, and this must come from the very top, the person we're all not allowed to criticise. C, we're all just being milked for money playing an absolutely horrendously bad game.

Then you better perma ban me now

[cloud ridge]

He's right you know 👀

[echo pulsar]

no, we’re not all being milked for money, most of us dont spend or spend very little, 0 sympathy for anyone who spends 13000 on a game in total or per month, talk about privileged with no morals

[echo pulsar]

any chance you could split this up? I only agree with one point so cant upvote it as it is

[drowsy bone]

Who said anything about spending? What about the bugs?

What about the fact that now some events aren't even available to you unless you spend

Or the fact tactics mean nothing now, even less than before, compared to spending?

[vale yoke]

Oh. Oh dear.

[drowsy bone]

Or what about their predatory tactics to make you spend, addiction is a real thing. And FP have absolutely no morals at all

You think they're okay liannin? FP are doing a good job, they're not greedy?

They're great at fixing bugs and listening to player feedback?

[vale yoke]

Did I say any of that, Ifoo?

[drowsy bone]

That feedback is listened to?

[vale yoke]

Any of that anywhere at all?

Show me where.

I dare ya

Triple dog dare ya

[drowsy bone]

You imied it like finally waking up and seeing FP for what they are was worthy of your contempt

[vale yoke]

Show me where I said "FunPlus isn't greedy and they 100% listen to all feedbacks"

[drowsy bone]

This

You said it just now

[vale yoke]

Nope, that's me wandering in, seeing what's up, and leaving to power on my xbox

[drowsy bone]

Let's just say I don't agree with you. You come across as a shill to FP sometimes, mock concern and feedback which you know nothing will ever get done about

So let's agree to just ignore each other

[vale yoke]

I'm sorry you feel that way.

You know I rather adore you, and it admittedly kinda sucks on a personal level that you view what I've been trying to do in order to take our game back in such a harsh light.

So I'll just leave you to your ire and venture back into the Commonwealth wasteland

[drowsy bone]

Don't be sorry. I'm not worried, because I don't agree with the way you believe FP will actually listen. It's a little more than hope, it's like misleading people into thinking the feedback you knock out sometimes will be listened to

So do what you want to do

[vale yoke]

I write for PUC, and keep fighting for what the players want. You do you, I'll do me, and just know that regardless of your feelings, I still have love for ya.
Be well, Ifoo.

☮️

[full rampart]

[zinc karma]

Is it possible to change trap time to every 2th day instead 47h cooldown with a 48h cooldown if you leave allliance? This way we could do trap at 14utc on monday, 19utc on wednesday, 14utc on friday,....

[drowsy bone]

You know another thing I've noticed about how little FP care? The same hackers pretending to be mods keep posting dodgy links on their Facebook page again and again. And they never get banned. They care so much about their players that scams are left to run riot on their social media

[full rampart]

If I’m not wrong Friday 14 won’t be possible

You can try to do Monday 14Wednesday 14 Friday 19

[zinc karma]

Atm no. But if its like horde, it would be possible

[drowsy bone]

Read again. They asked if they changed the cooldown they could do what is proposed

[full rampart]

Would you like to add a feedback about this? As far as I know nobody has proposed this before, and the general cooldown the game has for trap is 47h as u stated before

For that to work the game would need to change the trap system for all the states

[zinc karma]

How i am doing this😅. I saw this problem in a lot of alliance. They lose one trap if they switch between trap time because cooldown. Or they lose some player because they are never able to do trap

[full rampart]

I can help you write it if you wish, we follow the #📋︱feedback-how-to model and we post it in #📋︱feedback-reporting

[drowsy bone]

And that's only what's in the feedback reporting channel, for the few months it's been up. There have probably been more prior to that

And we still think feedback is listened to...

[full rampart]

I understand we used the same before like the hours u proposed, but we put the 19 Friday and then the trap had more than 47 on it

[zinc karma]

Looks like im not the first one😂

[viscid ore]

It'll be fun to figure out what's going to happen with POW Summit and MM schedules...

Good afternoon

[full rampart]

Yes seems you are not… I haven’t been in the mod team the time that feedback was created, but if you wish to add one now we can do it

[full rampart]

Helloo Teta!

[zinc karma]

Yes, i think a lot would be thankful if something change

[full rampart]

Mind if I pm you?

[rocky otter]

Lfoo is so right. Feedbacks are as useless as a fart in a wind tunnel. Feedback is there to calm people down. Because you give feedback and wait for the developers to see and implement it. 🤡

[wise yoke]

I’m with @vale yoke on this one.
I agree that FP have not got a good record on listening to players, narrowing the gap between f2p and p2w, fixing bugs etc. I do sometimes see glimmers of hope. Stuff like the last few compensations have been relevant to what was lost, a (very) few bugs have been fixed, they introduced a roadmap.
FP have a long way to go - exacerbated by the fact that the player base was ignored for so long, that trust was eroded, but they have (belatedly) made a start.

I don’t have a problem with pay only events - it’s just the same as buying bundles, we can chose to buy or not.
I do have a problem with FP linking broken events to events like migo and not readjusting things when they go wrong.

[rocky otter]

Okey and soo. Its all you wrote explain What i wrote 😂

[drowsy bone]

It's too late. The game is dead. Their resources are all channeled to a newer game, with a warner media license on the line. If you think things were bad you haven't seen how much worse it will get. As long as people keep spending on the overpriced bundled they have no desire to improve things. And even if people did stop spending the likelihood is at this stage they will close the game and put their resources into something else. If you think FP have any compassion or care about the players at all you're sorely mistaken

All this talk about saving the game, helping the community etc. is BS. Some people are obviously trying to protect the reputation of FP to ensnare players to their other games.

If you really cared about the players and community where's the dissent? Where are the cries for change. Where is the criticism?

[wise yoke]

FP are a company. They exist to make money for owners /shareholders.
Same as most companies.
We are a customer base. Upset us too much and we will go elsewhere (as many have already done).
Bit what they do and how they treat the customer base of sos will make or break their reputation. And if their reputation becomes too tarnished, that will affect the success of the new game they are apparently launching next year

[drowsy bone]

99% of players who have played a FP game before won't ever play one again. But that's okay for FP because they only want the 1% of people who can spend. The other players can just suck it up as cannon fodder. You really think they care? If they did they would listen, balance thing, close the power gap

Well, I agree with you. They only want the 1% who can spend. This game is just a con for the other 99%. Finally you get it. They're a business, with a business plan to exploit their players for money.

They don't give a F for making decent games, free of bugs, or their player community

[carmine summit]

I kinda agree this game is dead and dying. The 1 percent are stopping or quitting. F2P are relevant to game heath but won't keep a game going

[wise yoke]

Not sure I understand what you mean by ‘finally I get it’? I think many if not most players know that FP is a business, and plays by business rules.
It’s why we don’t have a go at the MODs or even CMs - they have to follow the policy.

[drowsy bone]

I agree they're a business, a greedy, morally bankrupt one at that. Who make crap rehashed games to exploit their players for money. They can't balance if they had a set of scales. They have proportionally more bugs than a cockroach colony after a nuclear war. They have more psychological tools implemented than a shiny casino to get people to spend

[wise yoke]

Yep, sadly I think the game is dying, and it will take a huge effort from FP to revive it. And I’m not sure if they can at this stage.
There are many who made friends during the dark days of Covid, and have played as a team for 3-4 years. It will be a sad day when they call it a day

[drowsy bone]

Why are they modding? To help the community? Either they're blind or biased. There's mounds and mounds of evidence that feedback does not help this game

Where are the invites for the coffee meeting with the devs that people won?

[wise yoke]

Sorry ifoo, if you are now just insulting people I’m out.
Have a good day

[drowsy bone]

Where is the concern and Becca's replies to the questions raised?

I don't agree with you so ye, goodbye

[prime hound]

It is not that the mod team is blind to the problems, complaints, and feedback.

It is just we can only do so much with the resources and information that we have

[drowsy bone]

Okay, let's put it another way. WE all know feedback does not get listened to, but you keep asking us to raise feedback. It makes us think you think the players are stupid

Do you think the players are stupid? We're not blind to our feedback being ignored

There's enough evidence of it

[prime hound]

Never thought any of the players were stupid

We cannot force the devs to address the feedback

All we have the power to do is to send it to them

I totaly agree with some of your complaints. I too get very frustrated when it seems no one is listening

[drowsy bone]

Okay not sure you get it at all. Imagine at work you're unhappy about something. You love your work but some things can be improved. You're asked to give them feedback to discuss to improve things. Because you've been told that's the best way to have your concerns addressed. But nothing is ever changed and no discussions happen with the employees.

You keep raising feedback and going through the right channels. But time and time again nothing ever gets done.

Then someone keeps asking you to give feedback. You get angry with that person and think they're an utter moron because everyone knows the right channels don't work. But they keep telling you to go through those channels

It's just a scenario, before you think I'm calling mods morons 😩

[prime hound]

However, with a place of employment there are ways to go up the chain of command if you feel you are not being heard.

you can always contact a lead mod if you need further assistance than what I can provide at #🚨︱contact_an_lmod

[drowsy bone]

You know what happens in that scenario?

1. People start leaving. Which is already happening

2. People get angry, not just with the company but with the people telling them to submit feedback. Knowing full well feedback doesn't work.

Telling us to speak to a dlmod is very insulting. You're aware that a dlmod has as much persuasive clout as any other mod with the devs, none. A dlmod just enforces the discord rules which doesn't actually get the players point across to FP

And the ones who are actually employed by FP, namami/saberlot are as much use as a wet paper bag

Apologies to anyone who identifies as a wet paper bag. I'm sure you're more useful than nanami/saberlot

[prime hound]

I am not sure exactly what you want me to say. I only do what I can. If this avenue is not working for you, then why continue down it?

[drowsy bone]

I think the idea is to not say anything. Because the more people I make aware of how little FP cares about 99% of their players the better. How their communities will get destroyed that they've formed. How people end up wanting to quit but just logging on for the sake of their friends. All whilst FP do F all to implement ideas to maintain a sustainable, community focused game that makes money. Instead of just a money grab

[worldly sable]

So many blocked messages

[boreal gate]

[tardy night]

🤔

I just wanna see the P&L statement of Funplus some day, particularly their delivery channel and R&D expenses.

[civic star]

Sure how would you like it? Better yet leme come to your dms

[terse agate]

Worst part in this comparison….
In this case you are an employee and you get paid to do your work……
In this case the paying customer is being ignored…..
Customers that are paying for a product they are not happy about anymore…..
An island could easily be bought with the revenue they had…..
Don’t get me wrong, it’s a company with the goal to make profit….
But it feels they want to kill the game….. It feels they are trying to safe too much money by hiring cheap staff or too little stuff (like I always feel with the upgrades the project manager is missing, the one that makes sure there is a test phase and all platforms are publishing the update simultaneously)….
By not cherishing their customers and micropayments too….
And then, yes….
After being ignored for so long, a large part of the players community gave up…..
Now just a handful, annoying players that just won’t give up (🤣) are left

[drowsy bone]

Believe me, the last month it's felt like a job rather than fun. Logging in for events to not let my friends in the alliance down. There's so many bugs, the game feels like a cash grab more than ever. They even manage to break things that were working before and expect a pat on the back for fixing said things.

[terse agate]

And they only read the messages they wanna read “So many players loved the anniversary event”……
Must be the ok bots🤣😂🤣😂

[drowsy bone]

The inclusive anniversary event that cost $7000 to make the most of it. Then you get beaten to the prizes by someone who spent $7001. Making the money you spent a complete waste

The King is dead. Long live F-King Group

[cloud ridge]

If only becca could see these positive feedbacks so she could know of the amazing job KG had done

[short patio]

Can we ask Becca to add more peace flares in alliance store?

[umbral carbon]

..

[tame lintel]

For the love of God. No.

Let natural selection happen.
Just breathe...
Then we can find better game😃😃

[tidal apex]

One of the recent dev feedback notes sqid they are reworking various event shops and that they did SvS shop. My state warfare shop have same items as few months ago, why are they lying? Tge only usefull item in there is chests with normal/green plasma and maybe 3x 1h speedup, nothing else really worth buying....

Why not just rework all event shops completely at this point? Make one gigashop with no limits to number of items we can buy. Put in there literally every material in the game, gen 1-2 behemoth stuff, gen1-2 aircrafts, formation, old and new heroes, limitless potions, plasma, green plasma, some skins/decorations/statues that could rotate weekly, speedups etc.. Then make all events reward same currency for this one shop.

[unreal lichen]

Possible that different shop reworks are rolling out in different fashions in different states. I saw my biocap store dramatically change the other day

[unreal lichen]

Do you think that would be easy to navigate? What about using different currencies? It's a good idea that's worth submitting!

[tidal apex]

They should just consolidate currency so we would get same coins for RR, KoTh etc.

[drowsy bone]

Funplus are deceitful and liars. Remember the "closing the gap" by introducing fragments in epic map searches? Well, they're an older generation and you're lucky if you get 2 out of 100 searches

[tidal apex]

I saw recently how they are closing the gap. New statues with skills (hunters do 20% more damage for 3 turns every 10 turns and stuff like that) that costed like 600$ a piece 🤣

[drowsy bone]

They meant the gaps in the island. They're plugging the gaps on the island

[tidal apex]

This game could live extremely long time and still provide them hefty income (way low than now but still substantial) if they just kept to some limits... Instead every next month they release more new stuff that costs total more than prior months to get. They are deluded if they are thinking they can just keep on increasing without end how much it costs to play this "game".

[drowsy bone]

They're reaping what they sow. Sos is still their highest grossing game and they seem intent on destroying it. I have no sympathy for them. They're betting everything on the new DC game now

[tidal apex]

Sure there are some positives and nice changes but they are just still too little too late.

Aircraft and formation materials become nearly impossible to earn nice amount of once events related to them end. Like why even make it timed? Just let those events be, let people do those few "raids" weekly so they can have maxed aircrafts/formation by next year even if they dont pay 😒

[tidal apex]

They will surely get ton of players just based off how popular DC is. Then few months down tge road people will start realising it costs like 30k $ month to play it and leave in droves :p

[drowsy bone]

I hope Warner knows what they're getting into. Licensing the joker is massively different to licensing a whole game. Sure, it might make them some money but the hit to their reputation if FP use the same ethics as sos will be enormous. They're already struggling behind marvel

[nova jetty]

Please remember discussing other games in our server is against terms of service.

[drowsy bone]

Didn't they remove the availability of the joker because a disagreement or not being able to afford the license? I can't see WB agreeing to the new license without a generous cut of the revenue. So that means that FP need to make even more money to reap the same profit margin. And we all know what that means, even greedier practices

[unreal lichen]

From what I’m told both joker and daryl are no longer able to be obtained due to character licensing

[vale yoke]

I'd love to tell Ifoo the nitty gritty details of what the company is doing, as well as what certain members of the player communities in various games (as well as former players) are doing, but I have the sneaking suspicion he wouldn't believe me and would insist I'm a shill.
it is what it is

Some of the folks here on other servers with me know though.

wink wink nudge nudge

Also, any news about those dev chats? Up to something like 17 topics to discuss, and biding my time waiting for Nanami to reply...

[drowsy bone]

There's nothing you can say that will persuade me they will change their practices. And wtf are PUC, you say it as if it's supposed to mean something. It doesn't. I could say I write for MGGCR

You said their other franchises are doing well. If sos are the highest grossing, and sos revenues are dropping. Just what in the world are the other titles doing? What's the company doing other than blindly going down the route of milking their players and it failing miserably?

What's the purpose of misleading the players into thinking FP are doing well when they aren't? Their greed and incompetence is biting them hard. What's the ulterior motive?

And why is it such a bad thing to want them to make better games, so that we can continue to play with the friends we've made?

[drowsy bone]

Yes, that's what I said.

[unreal lichen]

Well you used a question mark so just validating your comment 😀

[vale yoke]

I never said their other franchises are doing well, either. I know of at least one which is considered dead, and it came after SoS.
PUC is Players United Campaign, and they are notably the group of gamers taking a stand against unregulated and unfair practices by FP, tracking their properties and revenue (including those little secret companies they have), and advocating for players in multiple FP communities.
I think you'd probably like what they do there, tbh

[drowsy bone]

OK, I want to disclose I write for Mobile Gaming Greedy Company Reviewa

[vale yoke]

Feel free to DM me, Ifoo. I don't really want to continue this here, but you should know that there are people actively seeking accountability

[drowsy bone]

This isn't the route then. They're not even accountable to their players let alone someone who is gunning for them legally

[vale yoke]

If that's how you feel, then that's your right. I feel differently and that's mine. Just letting you know there is information available in the right spaces for people who feel the same as you do, and if you ever want to chat about it, I'd be happy to do so in DM.
Have a lovely day

[tidal apex]

Bring back state mergers... My state never had one despite really low amount of players. Just logger in and checked behemoth challenge leaderboard, only 152 accounts did any damage and out of those at least 10 are someones farm 😒

Maybe some people missed it today and will do it on another day but despite that we have less than 200 players

[bleak wolf]

Hi hi Shirosei
What state you are? Maybe you will have state transfer soon…

[tidal apex]

We need merge, not transfer

[bleak wolf]

Has your state ever had a merge?

[tidal apex]

Never, state 886

From what I know few states near ours have similiar situation with having really low player count

[vapid forum]

I think the closest merge our states had was up to around 810-820

Nothing more than that

[bleak wolf]

Yes i understand.
I could submit this feedback for you.
Could you give me the other state number with same situation?!

[tidal apex]

In general most opponents we face in SvS it becomes 2 v 2 alliances fight from which only 1 alliance is "full" other one have like 12 people showing up....

884,885,887

888 is lively one tho

[tidal apex]

Its baffling that some states not that far in age from us had even 2 mergers already yet we get nothing....

I guess they started transfers instead because it made money directly 😒

[tidal apex]

Please remove 888 from feedback list there, that one is lively

[bleak wolf]

Yeah 😅

[terse agate]

Soooooo……
@merry scroll , @feral sinew @gray dragon ….
This is getting ridiculous, I think it is FIVE weeks already since the message on how to obtain the missing heroes of gens 13 and 14……
And we have heard NOTHING!!!!
No means to upgrade, hell, some can’t even locate anymore….
I have people in my state that miss Jeb for instance…..
The completion capsules in value voucher, doesn’t locate them….
The completion capsules in epic searches, doesn’t locate them…..
We are way behind the older states, yet we’ll be matched soon……

I ONLY REQUEST THAT THE CHOICES OF THE DEVS FOR CERTAIN STATES AREN’T NEGATIVE FOR THEM!!!!!

Meanwhile we are STILL tuned in, but we only hear utter silence!!!

I find it weird this company is seemingly doing all they can to get out OUT of the game and INTO DC…..

Is it too much to ask for an answer?
Is it too much to ask for what is promised?

Is that the job description of the CM’s? Ignore the players, so in the end they give up and there are no problems anymore??

[wide wraith]

they will be on holiday till next week probably because of the chinese national day last sunday, its a week long thing

[unreal lichen]

I’m sorry you are experiencing this Chief. We were not provided any additional information to help ease your troubles. As mods, all we can do is request you remain patient. We, as a team, will do our best to get your answer for you as it’s clear this is bothering players. Thank you so much for your patience on this.

[kind brook]

Hi! Problem with Facebook - can’t log in

[mortal edge]

Same?

[kind brook]

Still can’t

[mortal edge]

I get this message when trying

[kind brook]

Yes, same with me

[jovial abyss]

I have a player with a report! please upvote the fb login issue if you have #🐞︱bug-reporting message

[mortal edge]

Upvote in #🐞︱bug-reporting

[pallid willow]

Does anyone know if they will add new levels to the airplane excercises after the 33 days end?

[vivid grove]

We have not been updated on if they will be more than 250 levels yet

[harsh owl]

Are Kira's shows licensed to be used in game and approved by Adidas? Those aren't just a random model (they're not Superstars) and the 3 stripes was a noob mistake for sure. IRL, there are shoes with 2 and 4 stripes and they want nothing with what Adidas is packing...so, did FP do the right thing here or are they hoping Adidas will never find out?

[unreal lichen]

I'll have to go take a much closer look at her shoes.

Also I'm not as well versed on patent law as I once was. I think imagery and characters are different than clothing design

Kinda like how a recipe can't be protected.

But then again there's also international trade law here.

I'm rambling. Apologies.

[harsh owl]

No no no lol. No apologies needed and you're not rambling. What you're saying makes sense and I have to do a little bit of research on something you said so thank you for that 🙂

[unreal lichen]

One could also consider maybe the game is giving free product placement to adidas

[stable cosmos]

Depends on if people buy kira for her shoes

[jovial abyss]

It's a whole package kind of thing ...

[unreal lichen]

Or people buy shoes because of Kira

[jovial abyss]

a whole.. bundle... one could say

[unreal lichen]

Heyyyoooooo. I see what you did there.

[stable cosmos]

If theyre buying because she wears adidas, then fup are in trouble. If they buy adidas because kira wears them, then its product placement

[jovial abyss]

Maybe the next gameplay survey will include shoes

[stable cosmos]

Probably some form of fair use here or a lot of russian instagram would need to go offline

[unreal lichen]

So since this is feedback discussion maybe the feedback is that the game could fundraise with product placement and give us all a discount on bundles

[jovial abyss]

That's excellent feedback

[stable cosmos]

They already "discount" the bundles. Its 10000% value!

[jovial abyss]

You're right! Spectacular value!

I have to admit to buying resource bundles early on ... really early...

[harsh owl]

Thx for pivoting us back to an actionable item since this is "feedback". Your thought sounds about right to me. If product placement could offset some of the costs or provide some discount that would go a long way for a lot of players I would imagine. I just don't want characters or the game pulled because of legal issues.

[drowsy bone]

They don't give a crap

New hero for Christmas. Optimus Grime

They plagiarise things to save money and still can't manage to fix their bugs or lag

[drowsy bone]

I really hope you're being sarcastic. Giving you the benefit of the doubt. This is exactly what one of the lawsuits against FP is about

[stable cosmos]

Probably be some weasel method that means they're not in trouble for this time, but ongoing they can't do it any more. Course they'll pump up the imaginary price of the pixels then discount it for the bundles and argue that tack

[unreal lichen]

[stable cosmos]

No more hoarding. All must be purchased every time

[harsh owl]

Seen this one before and I think it may be a tough one. What they did looks more "mecha" than a transformer but I wouldn't want to be the legal defense arguing the minor differences, or whether that's at all a valid argument.I grew up on a lot of Transformers, Autobots, Gundam and then Evangelion etc. To me there was a difference between a lot of these but a judge may just look at the color matching alone and decide FP is in the wrong. Tough call.

[tardy night]

The whale states can rejoice. More being delivered soon to replace those exiting the game.

Rest of the lot head out to search for the X marking the targets.

Clearly funplus answer to fixing matchmaking is allowing an even further lopsided competition. Lmao

Wonder how many will throw a tantrum and "protest" this time for a week if they're not allowed to form teams that crush everything else.

Do we also get a memo from funplus explaining to the whales to kill off "useless" power below 100 members of their alliance? Stay tuned to find out!

[last phoenix]

Hey everyone

Just reading up

[umbral cliff]

Hashbro can’t sue for copyright infringement cuz the character were created under work for hire contract there are very few relevant things they hold copyright to also they r very lenient when it comes to their fans using their creation unless its patented & trademarked so i guess we are safe when it comes to buying bundles

[stiff ether]

It‘s more Battletech than Transformers anyway

If someone‘s as old as me and still remembers.

[stable cosmos]

If it can't transform they're safe there regardless of colour scheme I'd think

[wide wraith]

it's a mishmash of several different anime and other games/films not a unique look or concept but unfortunately its just about unique enough to get past any copyright laws

[marble grove]

So why only 2 badges

But 70 skins 😂😂

[wide wraith]

the better question would be why dont the tasks on the most industrious chief refresh daily

[craggy loom]

😂 👍

[wide wraith]

thats the fault of your r5/r4 who could have selected a different time for AD, they would have known the time of MM before picking the time of AD

[craggy loom]

lol. we were chosen

[wide wraith]

then yout r5/r4 should have acted quicker, i knew what time my MM was so i made sure i attacked at a time that suited my alliance

[craggy loom]

exactly. we have to dedicate our lives to the game. 😂

[wide wraith]

or maybe join an alliance where the R5/R4s think of their players first

I planned my AD opponent from Monday, doing research to find the opponent that my alliance had the best chance of winning against, talked to my alliance and made sure it happened , took about 40 mins spread over a couple of days, not rocket science, just a bit of planning

[unreal lichen]

I want move to 1k

[unreal lichen]

Nice try Fu||n||plus

[craggy loom]

😂 Every Wednesday, every R4 of every alliance at XX:XX:00 must sit before the game. There are other things and another life besides the game. The game should attract, not force you to play

[unreal lichen]

But at least free Shield in MM lol

[craggy loom]

and 0 points for those who chose us.

tomorrow they'll all come running here and start complaining that they haven't scored a single point.

[craggy loom]

you can plan anything 😂 . but only we will decide that those who chose us will not get points.

[wide wraith]

I am up every reset anyway, so was no trouble for me and you only need 1 person

[stable cosmos]

I want this to be possible.

Without money

[crystal iron]

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[harsh owl]

Then you're in the wrong game my friend. I loved that game but once I had to start spending it was over. Imagine spending money to move corn around (like we can visually see the game is SUPER FIXED!) while your opponents spend on their T12s to zero you. Priorities lol

That is a good suggestion though if you're making one. Feeding Frenzy should be F2P but then they'd need to make the game fair or else no one would play

[knotty cosmos]

I think many of us have played this game for years. This game does require alot of admin work, alot of event organizing. Hence the need to have many R4s in some alliances, responsible for different events. This game has so many issues. But if R4s fail to plan, then it’s not the game issue. MM timing is very predictable in most cases. At least in my alliance’s case. So we plan our truce time to align with our preferred MM time.

Not sure if it’s luck. We always rotate our MM time due to having players from every timezone. And so far we get all our preferred slot in MM. It’s quite predictable at least in my state range

Oh I agree with you. AD should be removed 100%

Oh no please not Monday 😂 It’s the worst day to have any event. I am already dreading having to play POW summit today. Too many events happening at once.

[white turret]

Ad just feels like a unessarcy event tbh

[terse agate]

Not quite true, we do our truce when most of us sleep…
Then MM and AD is in the time we are awake….
Due to the fact you can’t pick a specific time, AND FP decided to add some more events during the weekdays (yeah, really slowing down on the events), this can overlap…..
Even if you have great leaders.

[white turret]

When have they ever

[hollow hemlock]

For the first time ever our alliances MM is at 22:00 instead of 18:00 --- The time we are being attacked in duel.
So not predicatable at all

[knotty cosmos]

I think they just dont care. Most of the people in my alliances are exhausted. If it’s not because of the people, more would have left the game.

[knotty cosmos]

Okay then I stand corrected

[white turret]

Exactly

[woven spire]

But mayhem times are known before duels?

[white turret]

AD happened during our trap last week…

[woven spire]

Only what can happen is

[hollow hemlock]

Wasnt trying to correct, just no idea what to do 😒

[woven spire]

That you get declared on MM time since they had another

Then you screwed yes😂

[terse agate]

That could have been solved easily, that IS leaders that don’t pay attention

[knotty cosmos]

Yeah this is what I meant. We can adjust truce time on Tuesday right? 🤔

[woven spire]

Ye

You can

[knotty cosmos]

So its the R4s’ fault 🥲

[woven spire]

Nah its funplus fauly

For putting trash events in during workweeks because the weekend is full

[terse agate]

The only downfall is……
You might get matched while most of your alliance sleeps….
(Yes I know, our alliance mostly consists of players in similar time zones which just grew like that)

[knotty cosmos]

Tbh no one I know enjoy AD. They should scrap this

[woven spire]

I dont enjoy any event at this point😂

[terse agate]

According to Becca, we all enjoyed the anniversary event 🤣😂🤣😂

[knotty cosmos]

True yes. I can see that now. Mine is a multinational. But it has its issue too. I can never attend trap at all or certain events

Anniversary event get worse each year.

[harsh owl]

They will NEVER make feeding frenzy free. That's just SUPER wishful thinking, nothing I lay my head down at night dreaming of. If you read my comment again, notice I call out the fact they would need to change the design of the game so users can actually complete it. The various psychological closure laws or NFC will force us to NOT play it otherwise because it's how humans are wired. I suspect FP knows that and why they force the opposite (P2C = pay to complete), knowing that psychologically a large amt of their users will not be satisfied until it's completed.

[terse agate]

When it is someone’s birthday you bring presents, that’s what FP thought with the event.
GIMME YOUR MONEY AS MY PRESENT😈

[white turret]

How is this game such a high rating lol

[woven spire]

Bots

And it was good at the start

[terse agate]

Definitely 😍

[knotty cosmos]

Yeah the game was fun then. Made pandemic bearable 😂

[woven spire]

I think its chinese company. Those always use bots got everything

Ye everyone was bored😂

Nothing to do with money

[terse agate]

But even while it was during the pandemic…
It had strategy back then…..

[knotty cosmos]

Wasnt as expensive. And double rallies could knock out any maxed player. Nowadays, 4, 5 rallies barely make a dent

[woven spire]

Well at the start we had a guy. I still believe he was a dev

The whole state couldnt even kick him

Seriously i have screens. He had a cute monkey picture

20 rallys didnt even scratch

[terse agate]

What?!?!

[woven spire]

With timing ofc

Ye dont know. When p3 came out he was p3 first of all

Some people called him out (we bough all how)

[terse agate]

Thank god we didn’t have him….
We had a lot of whales, divided over multiple alliances…..
That was fun…

[woven spire]

He was in same alliance as me so all good😂

[terse agate]

All in 2 shells during SvS

[woven spire]

Haha when svs came out

We won in occupation time😂

I am telling you this monkey was a dev

[terse agate]

Devs should try to play without a maxed account

See the needed strategy

[woven spire]

Ye but its about pushing others

People in state pushed like crazy to beat him

But he was unbeatable

We got the best frame at the start of state

[stable cosmos]

I don't think they need to make it free, just change the logic. Level 2 gets 3 tile types removed. Now possible to complete, probably. Then you introduce lvl2+ this repeats over and over, it has the 3 tiles back and has a leaderboard for a temp skin. Big players will spend to win on the leaderboard, f2p can complete level 2.

Fup probably makes more money out of it which is a negative, but i get to complete level 2 without spending and can live with that

[woven spire]

Bet there is still a bunch of devs or people hired to play

[stable cosmos]

Believe there are dev shell accounts which simply max features in live. No other purpose than to stretch people on leaderboards

[woven spire]

I think they even playing

Pushing events

Disgusting but hey, how to make people spend more who want to win

[stable cosmos]

I could believe that but its super difficult tk prove. The shell accounts are more obvious

[woven spire]

Even you prove it

What then😂

You think prof cares

He will be proud hes still bigger BP then a dev😂

[stable cosmos]

Generally if a shell account is caught out it vanishes

I imagine a load of people who are still playing, and even spending just "because" will never touch another fup title

[woven spire]

Doubt haha

I think there is so many who wouldnt care

[stable cosmos]

I don't know anything big. Only smaller 20 person guilds in games that are a bit less interactive with people. Nothing free, but less predatory than this

[woven spire]

Here? We have trap 50+

We have issues on bunkers first occupy

Ye i dont know. Number 2 is pretty close on this level here 😂

The issue is. Its mostly top 3 and 4 5 alive the rest farms

I think new states die faster

We had no clue what wpuld happrn

In meantime we made friends etc

So we fked

And new games. Well find a good one. I cant😂

And i find pc/console games different

I play both

Hahaha idk how this is even legal

Those fake ads

[stable cosmos]

I wish this discord wasn't so uppity about other games. I know why it is but its super annoying

[harsh owl]

They're now regularly community noted on Twitter but this is for other games. I haven't seen an SOS ad there in a really really long time

[harsh owl]

Yeah, wasn't saying they're gone all together, just on X (Twitter) I haven't seen one in months but I have seen other games that were falsely advertising game play called out and maybe why they're no longer on that platform

[tepid rivet]

Family friendly I see. Their restrictions in game vs their restrictions in ads (or for hero design) only makes me laugh. Hypocrites

[knotty cosmos]

If you find a good one, please share with me. Friends and I are seriously considering leaving the game as well.

[terse agate]

I am 1 of everyone!!!!!!
Please tell me where to find the 1,000 free draws!!!!

Most likely they added a subtext “everyone that paid €1,000”, and used a microscopic font size for this subtext🤣😂🤣😂

@gray dragon dearest….
Please inform us where to find the 1,000 free draws🤣😂🤣😂

🤣😂🤣😂 most likely…..
Thank god we don’t have thousands of that in our backpacks 🤣😂

And getting one free frag in the alliance store daily 😍😍
What would I do without those

[spark kindle]

They would be useful if they allowed us to recycle

[pallid willow]

Duh it’s obviously 1k free draws in 1k years 😝

[jade dagger]

Mining Mayhem matching is still atrocious, then the combat morale has driven an even further divide between massive spenders and everyone else.

Won the first couple Mining Mayhem's when it came out, then out matched and lost every single match since FIX THE DANG MATCHING.

[cloud copper]

Dear Developers:
It is sad to see this event.
It sad to see that the game is offering FREE stuff and seems no one is interested to buy the small Bundles which will activate those free stuff, anymore.

How did we reach to this state?!
I'm sad to see this is happening. 😑
I was honest to tell you before that it will happen.. now it is too late ... to fix it.

[spice jungle]

it's funny because people used to buy every bundle that had a frame and this one has two

I guess it's just that they make them too often now and the max is 150%

[elfin ridge]

Hello Red Dragon, I'm really sorry that you cannot face equal opponent in Mining Mayhem maybe you would like to upvote this feedback about MM #📋︱feedback-reporting message

[jade dagger]

I voted it. This game has ALWAYS had matching issues in events, how about you fire the person in charge of it and make a different algorithm that lets an alliance win every so often so people actually wanna keep playing (I'm already on the verge of saying screw it all together and deleting the game).

[cloud copper]

Every alliance (those who are active) have a big whale as their main player and the rest are just ... joiners revolving around him/her, hoping for the best rewards. It seems difficult to do a well designed Matchmaking due to this fact as it will always end up having alliances showing as having strong match making criteria while it is only because of 1 or 2 players (the whales).

[jade dagger]

Well how about putting registration for MM like reservoir raid, that would help matching

[elfin ridge]

I understand you, we also many times faced way stronger opponent in different events. But we as Mods doing everything what we can to collect feedback and forward it. That's why all your voices are so important

[elfin ridge]

It's an interesting idea, do you have any specific ideas how it could looks like?

[jade dagger]

Well start the registration on Fri @ reset, completes on Mon @ reset then matching and start time determined on Tuesday.

[elfin ridge]

Do I understand right that it would be available only for registered alliance members?

[jade dagger]

Yes

Then matching would work better

[elfin ridge]

Sounds good! Would you mind to post your idea in https://discord.com/channels/555639568053829632/1110345161323585606 following pinned format? If you would need any help I can assist you 🤗

[jade dagger]

I can try lol

[elfin ridge]

Awesome 🥰

I have to go for a while, but if you would need any help with this feel free to DM me or ask for help any of my wonderful co-mods

[jade dagger]

🙄 wanna post the link for the suggestion I made since I can't.

[elfin ridge]

#📋︱feedback-reporting message here is the link 🤗

[unreal lichen]

There is no way of getting this much ticket even 1st place is not getting this much in total at the end of this event, idk if they will bring some betting for these but it's kinda impossible to get skins with red tickets

[woven spire]

Most funny part about skin

That rank mostly guarentee the skin frame etc

[charred swift]

Feedback - POW summit timings are ridiculous. The winners of the contest will be the unemployed or the retired. At least next time we know not to bother entering

[vivid grove]

Because an image can be posted as an ad doesn’t disqualify it from being inappropriate for this server.

No we have to follow Discords rules here inside Discord. As an official community we have guidelines that we have to maintain.

YouTube has their own rules as does TikTok. We follow the community guidelines for Discord

You are more than welcome to dm me any of the images you think are appropriate. I’ll run them by the leadership

Dlmods and slmods

Send me the image

I’m not aware of this video. So please send it to me

Usually from what I remember in any ad it says download from “this” link to get something. Right? So you have the video. Send it to me. If it’s not correct. I’ll gladly report it to Saberlot for removal from the adverts.

[jade dagger]

So where's the charts for upgrading plasma 10-13?

[cosmic gate]

Anyone else having trouble declaring war in alliance duel?

Oh alliance has tried 4x and keeps getting errors

[still blade]

Hello are these the ones you are looking for #📖︱official_en_content message

You can also search charts in our #🤖︱guide-bot as well using key words

[still blade]

I'm sorry to hear you are having issues. I would reccomend doing an in game bug report and follow the guide here #🐞︱bugs-how-to-report to also upload it to #🐞︱bug-reporting

If you need any assistance don't hesitate to reach out. My DMS are open.

[woven spire]

Yo

Dual is 2 v 2 no?

[ancient stratus]

There is no logic in dinosaur rallys 😆

Solo is more points than rally, but not always 😂

Fell asleep on the keyboard? 😆

[harsh owl]

Nope...still here formulating a thought 🙂

[ancient stratus]

😂

[harsh owl]

😅

[gusty dove]

When does KG plan to fix the disappearing support button in MM?
Is it too early to ask for a progress in this matter after several months?

[harsh owl]

Thx. I was wondering about the 1K free draws but looks like that's not a thing. Did you send the ad in for removal?

[woven spire]

Yo fix this stupid bug where prof can have 10 planes in defense while we do with 2

[unreal lichen]

just wanted to give my regards after another so much not fun MM

Whoever came up with Behemoth idea, I hate you with all my heart. thanks

this is just the cover, literally devil is behind the idea

[wraith vapor]

It's OK, I won't take offense or be bullied. Go on 😂

[steep surge]

Kind, reminder that we have a channel for #🌟memes_and_gifs 😊 thank you 😇

[digital glacier]

@opal loom please, don't advertise false information 😌

Thank you for understanding.
Sincerely,
Someone who knows math.

Also, did you know, advertising false information is against discord terms of service and can result in shutdown of the entire server?

[unreal lichen]

Hi. Care to explain the concerns you have with this?

[stable cosmos]

The killing infected one? You did get more per point but when you factored in finding them and limited numbers its better to have 20 people kill a fiend for svs than 1 person killing infected for solo ranking

[unreal lichen]

There's always some tendency towards being able to coordinate with a large alliance being more rewarding than hacking it out alone.

[frozen plank]

Normally I rally infected with travis and have all the other march to infected

[unreal lichen]

They do.

[tame jackal]

I'm sick and I can't look at discord, so many new confusions for me to be aware of

[unreal lichen]

Definitely information overload if you try to take it all in. Hope you feel better soon!

[tame jackal]

Thank u

🤣 🤣 This is nothing new

[gusty dove]

3 crates give 80 stamina each, so 240 overall.
plus one auto generated every 5 min = 12*24 = 288
Sums up to a 528 stamina gain

Even when using Travis (which takes several hours), we can do 10 rallies with 10x20 = 200.
Plus 15x10 (infected intel) + 10x12 (rescue intel) + 10x15 (exploration intel)
This is overall 200+150+200+150 per day stamina usage = 700

[unreal lichen]

Criticism is welcome, constructive feedback is even more so. But also if people just need a space to vent that's allowed too.

[unreal lichen]

That's very useful information. People need to know stamina is finite and eventually will run out.

[gusty dove]

yes, one at a time 🤪

[unreal lichen]

The graphics don't make any attestation that you'll be able to do everything with free resources, merely suggest ways to maximize it's use.

That's unfortunate. If you want to discuss it further my team welcomes your commentary on the issue over at #🚨︱contact_an_lmod

[unreal lichen]

Good way to spend time chatting it up with your state and alliance!

I appreciate the terminator reference