glass summit
The benefit of playing online is that there is often some group somewhere in the world playing when you want to, so I wouldn't be too concerned about not lining up with US timezones. I think you'd be surprised how many non-US games exist (I'm Australian, for reference)
I'd suggest looking on this server's #find-a-game channel, Roll20, and the various Facebook pages and subreddits dedicated to LFG (Looking for Group) postings
topaz karma
i get the gist
harsh fjord
There's also asynchronous D&D for when finding a block of hours is too difficult.
topaz karma
but how do i find a game
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glass summit
pretty much what I said to Chonky just above if you're looking for online play
topaz karma
pretty much what I said to Chonky just above if you're looking for online play
isnt it like hard for new players?
glass summit
Most tables, regardless if the advertise this fact or not, are open to teaching new players
Just be transparent about your nebishness and you'll be fine
harsh fjord
There are lots of players and fewer DMs. That plus finding a compatible group is not easy. But there are so many avenues to search that it can happen; it just requires time and patience.
topaz karma
do i gotta create a character first?
harsh fjord
It's probably better if you know how to create a character.
Not all DMs have the same methods for character creation, so knowing the process will serve you better than having a specific character that may not be welcome at the table.
lilac ferry
Most tables, regardless if the advertise this fact or not, are open to teaching ...
Thanks, appreciate the help my upside-down friend. Or would I be the upside-down one to you?
jagged sage
how do i start?
exotic remnantBOT
harsh fjord
Those links should get you on the path. If you have specific questions as you go, do feel free to ask!
rugged crater
what differenciates classes? just HP and movepool?
harsh fjord
Proficiencies, abilities, progression, HP.
rugged crater
howso progression?
harsh fjord
Oh, and primary ability score.
Fighters and rogues get more opportunities for feats/stat increases.
topaz garnet
howso progression?
The classes each have different features granted by their levels. For example, a 7th level rogue gets Evasion, meaning fireballs go from full or half damage, to half or no damage. Whereas a 7th level barbarian gets feral instinct, for advantage on initiaitive and the ability to overcome surprise via raging.
lofty blaze
Hey for skills, if I had a 12 in dexterity but didn't have proficiency in acrobatics would I add a +2. Additionally, if I did have proficiency in acrobatics would I add the proficiency bonus and the ability score modifier to place +4 for acrobatics?
topaz garnet
no, a 12 in dexterity is a +1 modifier.
12 dex, no prof: +1 to Dexterity checks
12 dex, prof in acrobatics, prof is +2: +3 to Dexterity checks that use Acrobatics proficiency
lofty blaze
Sorry, think I just misremembered that. That does explain it, thank you.
cedar furnace
Hello
id like to get started on a dnd campaign
i dont care what type i just want to play the game
im also new
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lilac ferry
What's some good additional content for starters, not looking for anything super duper fancy, just additional basic content to have fun with
harsh fjord
Can you elaborate on what you mean?
lilac ferry
I used dnd beyond for the character set up since its a bit easier (imo) and I can't read on paper well, but the basic classes and stuff feel kinda limited and I want to play around with additional content, but I don't want to suddenly have to study like I'm in college
fleet field
player's handbook will massively expand your subclass and feat choices
it's the first book any player should buy
gray ocean
notably you get all the PHB content on dnd beyond character sheets
but it's a good book to have if your group doesn't want you to be using your phone
smoky adder
No, the free Basic Rules contain only a portion of what’s available in the full PHB.
It has only one subclass per class, for starters.
lyric fjord
Um hello
smoky adder
Welcome!
lyric fjord
Im new to dnd and dont know what to really do
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median thistle
Im new to dnd and dont know what to really do
Me too I’ve been trying to find people to play with for years
Always been too nervous tho
slate phoenix
goddamn this looks terrifying to learn
median thistle
I know right
golden kraken
alright, @lyric fjord @median thistle @slate phoenix, crash course time
harsh fjord
This might be a less intimidating jumping-on point: https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1625-peril-in-pinebrook-a-free-introductory-adventure
golden kraken
The Basic Rules are a great introduction to how DnD is played- it may be 180 pages, but almost all of those are spent describing the abilities and lore of specific races/classes/backgrounds/spells. Skim through the first thirteen pages (counting the title and table of contents) and you'll be in a great place
shrewd charm
goddamn this looks terrifying to learn
Yea, I'm pretty intimidated. Have never played DnD, ever, but my interest has piqued after I started playing Baldur's gate 3
slate phoenix
180 PAGES?
harsh fjord
?tag new bg3
exotic remnantBOT
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slate phoenix
mk
golden kraken
60~63 is also good stuff, and 72-73 has a lot of important crunch that gradually fades away into niche rules that you can easily learn as you go
slate phoenix
question
golden kraken
180 PAGES?
a whole I80
slate phoenix
what does stuff like 5e mean
golden kraken
except, of course, you only need to read like twelve of them
harsh fjord
Fifth edition (5e), the current rules set of D&D.
golden kraken
and if you retain a third of that you're all set to start playing
shrewd charm
The [Basic Rules](https://media.wizards.com/2018/dnd/downloads/DnD_BasicRules_20...
Putting on my reading glasses rn
slate phoenix
hm
smoky adder
You definitely don’t need to memorize all the rules.
median thistle
My head hurts and all I’ve done is open the rule book
smoky adder
I’d recommend first just learning what rules are where.
Then you can always look them up as needed.
grave sleet
That's okay, DnD should be something that you get into at your own pace. don't worry about playing catch up!
harsh fjord
There are rules videos like Handbooker Helper and D&D Rules School.
golden kraken
yep; the first ~8-I0 pages are just a nice introduction
slate phoenix
so you basically learn as you go
grave sleet
Yes and a good DM will help guide you too
slate phoenix
and also if i were to look for a game of d&d how much of my schedule would i need to clear out
grave sleet
Once a month is usually common for busy individuals
smoky adder
That depends entirely on who you’re joining with.
slate phoenix
hm
golden kraken
so you basically learn as you go
yep; even just going to page 11 (3 of those pages are art and the table of contents) is a fantastic base
lyric fjord
Ok so i read the rules and made a character
grave sleet
Ok so i read the rules and made a character
What did you make?
lyric fjord
O a wood elf druid it seemed neat
slate phoenix
just from looking at like the base 12 classes rogue sounds fun
grave sleet
Druid's can be really great to play! Especially if you love exploration and survival type of roleplay!
slate phoenix
but then people talk about subclasses and i start to not know what im doing
harsh fjord
You can share your character in #character-discussion and head to #find-a-game to look for a group!
lyric fjord
Ive never role played actually i wanted to try tho
fleet field
but then people talk about subclasses and i start to not know what im doing
Subclasses are just a further specialisation for your class that you choose somewhere from level 1-3
slate phoenix
lemme go read the rules rq
grave sleet
Roleplaying your character can be a lot of fun if you do it in a safe environment. Some people prefer it, others are more there to achieve goals and play the fights
There's no wrong way to play the game overrall!
lyric fjord
It seems fun!
hybrid nexus
There could be
fleet field
Subclasses are just a further specialisation for your class that you choose some...
For example a rogue could become a thief, an assassin, or something else
grave sleet
Yeah but if you start to get into the "wrong ways" to play the game, it all comes down to the DM's discretion for each session.
lyric fjord
Oo ok
harsh fjord
The wrong way to play is playing in ways the whole group isn't on board with.
grave sleet
Some DM's really are lax and just want everyone to have a good time. Others are typically the fans that have been around for a long time and the rules make it easier for them to adapt
lyric fjord
The wrong way to play is playing in ways *the whole group* isn't on board with.
Ooooo ok
grave sleet
Consent forms at the beginning of each session are starting to become more common to set expectations and boundaries with players and DM's alike. I've started adapting them before players commit to my sessions in case they aren't comfortable with certain themes, language, or other topics
lyric fjord
O i understand how do i find a game tho cause now i really want to
golden kraken
just from looking at like the base 12 classes rogue sounds fun
rogue is a fantastic class for beginners, and a fan favorite at that :)
grave sleet
Look to your local discord channel here or go out to your local game stores and make conversation with others. There's a whole network of people that can either help guide you into games in person or virtual DnD is super easy these days with the websites out there to play
exotic remnantBOT
harsh fjord
That bot post is the intro for using the server's Looking for Group/Game channels.
hybrid nexus
Look to your local discord channel here or go out to your local game stores and ...
What do you mean by "local discord channel"
grave sleet
What do you mean by "local discord channel"
This one lol. The channel posted by Dyno would help you find a good resource here or elsewhere!
golden kraken
but then people talk about subclasses and i start to not know what im doing
so, subclasses are choices that each character gets to make once they reach a certain level in their class- for rogues, it's level three. They're basically specializations.
An Arcane Trickster Rogue gets to learn some wizardly magic to augment and expand their capabilities, a Swashbuckler Rogue can dance in and out of combat as easily as breathing, etc. etc.
lyric fjord
Um no ones posted there
harsh fjord
Read #find-a-game thoroughly: the posts are in #750812887697588356, #looking-for-players, #looking-for-community, and #paid-looking-for-game.
shrewd charm
Just wanna be clear, er, playing the game physically in-person is a bit impossible for me because I live in the middle of nowhere. So, you can play it entirely online with other people, yeah? As much as I'd like to play it IRL it just isn't an option for me
median thistle
Does a barbarian multi-class well with a sorcerer?
lyric fjord
O ok
harsh fjord
Just wanna be clear, er, playing the game physically in-person is a bit impossib...
?tag new online
grave sleet
Just wanna be clear, er, playing the game physically in-person is a bit impossib...
Yes virtual DnD is super easy and accessible to all!
harsh fjord
Does a barbarian multi-class well with a sorcerer?
Multiclassing isn't a newcomer subject, but the folks in #character-discussion can help you out!
hybrid nexus
Just wanna be clear, er, playing the game physically in-person is a bit impossib...
Yes all the tools are available, voice chat and virtual dice
golden kraken
Just wanna be clear, er, playing the game physically in-person is a bit impossib...
yep- despite living near all of my players for one group, we still run things online
it's a matter of personal preference as much as anything
median thistle
Ah so I shall ignore the idea of multi-classing till later
harsh fjord
I'd recommend multiclassing after you've played for a bit.
hybrid nexus
I'd recommend multiclassing after you've played for a bit.
What's the catch for multiclassing
It just seems like extra abilities
Unless I haven't read enough of the rules
harsh fjord
It's an optional rule and a little complicated, so it can be confusing. It can also result in some less effective character builds.
slate phoenix
skimmed through the first chapter and WOW this is still terrifying
grave sleet
skimmed through the first chapter and WOW this is still terrifying
Well don't worry, we've all been where you are now. You're gonna be just fine, take it in at your own pace!
golden kraken
Does a barbarian multi-class well with a sorcerer?
also, the answer is a very strong no
slate phoenix
is there anywhere i can find dnd games other than here
golden kraken
of all the classes that could possibly be tossed together, that is arguably the worst combination
shrewd charm
I think that my primary fear is making a crucial error during a game and embarrassing myself 😭
golden kraken
there's nowhere to go but up!
hybrid nexus
is there anywhere i can find dnd games other than here
Probably on reddit
grave sleet
Been there, done that lucius lol
harsh fjord
I think that my primary fear is making a crucial error during a game and embarra...
It's only a game, so even a mistake is not a big deal.
golden kraken
yeah, that's a pretty unfounded fear
that said, making mistakes is how you learn, so I wholeheartedly encourage trying to prove me wrong
harsh fjord
is there anywhere i can find dnd games other than here
I made a doc full of places to try searching: #third-party message
hybrid nexus
I think that my primary fear is making a crucial error during a game and embarra...
This game is not a competition
slate phoenix
all the different dice just seems confusing other than the d20 and six sided
hybrid nexus
You are not supposed to be perfect
harsh fjord
The d20 is how you do stuff. The others are mainly for damage and healing.
slate phoenix
mk
harsh fjord
Abilities specify what to use and when.
harsh fjord
I just hit three years.
grave sleet
This game is not a competition
It's only a competition when you're a wizard trying to arm wrestle a barbarian
grave sleet
how long have you spent playing dnd?
3 years I think now?
slate phoenix
wowie
grave sleet
I mostly DM though cause I love making worlds and campaigns
harsh fjord
Some folks have been playing for decades. But it's not a competition, so it's only a number.
grave sleet
I don't play a whole lot
topaz garnet
all the different dice just seems confusing other than the d20 and six sided
Attacks, Ability Checks, and Saving throws, use a d20.
Otherwise, things will say what they use each time, like a shortsword doing 1d6 damage.
hybrid nexus
And a dagger is 1d4 right
topaz garnet
Yep
hybrid nexus
Why is it so little
slate phoenix
i feel like my only worry about hopping into a game rn is that i have to go do something in the middle of a session
and then i just dont get to play
topaz garnet
And yes those three things I said are very different categories. Check, Save, Attack, are not interchangeable rolls or terminologies, and doing so will lead to a lot of confusion when figuring out the rules or asking about them
harsh fjord
i feel like my only worry about hopping into a game rn is that i have to go do s...
You won't find a game tonight in all likelihood. D&D isn't like an MMO.
slate phoenix
You won't find a game tonight in all likelihood. D&D isn't like an MMO.
fair
topaz garnet
Why is it so little
because it's a small/weak weapon. It is light, finesse, and throwable though, and I think all classes are proficient with them.
hybrid nexus
It's not like a dagger is less damaging than a sword, both still stab and slash just with a different reach
Sometimes it's more effective to use
harsh fjord
fair
Odds are when you find a group you'll discuss when everyone's free so there are no (or almost no) interruptions.
grave sleet
It mostly goes by the logic of "Bigger and heavier versus little and lighter"
slate phoenix
so now i just dont know about character creation
slate phoenix
because there just seems like a lot i have to do
hybrid nexus
so now i just dont know about character creation
There are character creation sheets online
exotic remnantBOT
harsh fjord
because there just seems like a lot i have to do
It is involved. Here's a YouTube tutorial if the rules text is too much: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZcNgj0KPYuA
hybrid nexus
It mostly goes by the logic of "Bigger and heavier versus little and lighter"
But a dagger should be able to be more precise no?
It's easier to aim at vital points or get multiple stabs in
I do not tolerate this inequality
I love my small daggers
harsh fjord
Real-world logic is honestly only going to go so far in a fantasy game.
hybrid nexus
Or knives, both are basically the same
golden kraken
It's not like a dagger is less damaging than a sword, both still stab and slash ...
yeah, DnD does tend to depart from realism for the sake of simplicity quite often. You can justify it- against humanoids, it's harder to get hits off/threaten foes, and thus the damage is lower, and against big monsters being able to stab deeply is important- but it's a bit of a stretch.
topaz garnet
But a dagger should be able to be more precise no?
Finesse property lets one use Dexterity for it
But yes, the DND rules are the rules, no matter how silly they get with more real-world logic applied.
For a vast majority of things you can find some way to explain it though
That and hit points aren't necessarily "meat points"
golden kraken
But a dagger should be able to be more precise no?
in the real world, taking a dagger against a half-competent swordsman would just get you murdered before you could get in range
hybrid nexus
in the real world, taking a dagger against a half-competent swordsman would just...
I'm mostly talking about damage here
slate phoenix
is d&d beyond like this website where literally everything d&d related is on it
golden kraken
I'm mostly talking about damage here
aye, and I'm referring to how daggers can do things in dnd that they can't in the real world
harsh fjord
is d&d beyond like this website where literally everything d&d related is on it
The material from the rules/sourcebooks is there digitally. But there's lots of D&D stuff not represented there.
topaz garnet
But its better in alot of other ways
such as being finesse, light, and throwable
slow hawk
is d&d beyond like this website where literally everything d&d related is on it
No, not literally everything. Its the website for the company that makes the game so it hosts official content
hybrid nexus
yeah, DnD does tend to depart from realism for the sake of simplicity quite ofte...
Wait is that a thing
Dagger does more damage to non humanoids?
topaz garnet
Wait is that a thing
that's more a "here's a way to explain why"
golden kraken
Dagger does more damage to non humanoids?
no
it would do less, from a realism perspective
topaz garnet
Dagger does more damage to non humanoids?
No, it's just an explanation as to why it does only 1d4 (+mod) damage, and it can be explained per-target
hybrid nexus
May have understood that wrong then
slow hawk
Dnd isnt trying to be a reality simulator; its a game with mechanics for balance and simplicity
golden kraken
ergo, daggers literally may deal less damage
slow hawk
A dagger does 1D4 + modifier damage because thats what the rules say, basically
golden kraken
No, it's just an explanation as to why it does only 1d4 (+mod) damage, and it ca...
^^
topaz garnet
Also, DND combat isn't you standing around and only swiping once every six seconds
It's an abstraction. It's assumed you're trying to avoid getting hit (your Armor Class), you're looking to hit your enemies at any opportunity (Opportunity Attacks), it's assumed you're in that 'swords clanging' thing until you take the attack action and press the attack against them
golden kraken
damage/HP represents more than wounds
golden kraken
Also, DND combat isn't you standing around and only swiping once every six secon...
aye! It's totally valid to describe a fight where a fighter does twenty damage and the rogue does ten as follows:
topaz garnet
for example, one of my favored descriptions of HP is grazing wounds, stamina spent to avoid the blow being lethal, and so on. For example, a Monk might catch a blade from stabbing them, but cut their hand. Then get stabbed at again, be unable to catch it, they got actually stabbed.
"The blow that reduces to 0 is the actually dangerous potentially lethal blow" is my take
also, literally in the description of hit points, luck and will to live is included.
it's also just "is tougher = more hp"
so it is just an abstraction of a bunch of factors. So to a degree, it's technically a degree of "plot armor" too - you take more punishment because you're a tad luckier.
hybrid nexus
Man
golden kraken
In a flurry of steel, the evil barron is driven back by Fighter. None of the blows bite flesh, but the baron grows desperate as he loses more and more ground. Unable to do anything more than survive, he's helpless as the Rogue slips out of the shadows behind him and delivers a coup de grace, ending his foul reign along with his life.
harsh fjord
Luck isn't an actual stat.
golden kraken
*In a flurry of steel, the evil barron is driven back by Fighter. None of the bl...
in this scenario, the fighter did most of the damage, and thus most of the work towards ending the baron's life- though the rogue was the only one who drew blood, despite doing half the damage
hybrid nexus
Luck isn't an actual stat.
Then how is it factored in
golden kraken
dnd is very much two discrete systems working in tandem: the mechanics, and the flavor. They're both internally consistent, but translating between the two is practically an art form
harsh fjord
Then how is it factored in
It's just the the idea that player characters are special, so they're a little lucky. It doesn't have an actual mechanical impact.
topaz garnet
What's luck
It's not an actual stat or anything, it's just one of many things described as a factor for why something would have a lot of hit points. For example, "why can the general take 6 more fireballs than a basic lieutenant" ends up being a "they're tougher and more important" thing
hybrid nexus
Weird
golden kraken
Then how is it factored in
descriptions. Think about it from a game design perspective:
Realistically speaking, a character is rarely going to be hit, but when they are hit, it's going to be really dangerous- perhaps even fatal. This can be represented by giving attacks really high damage but really low chances to hit, but that feels awful, and makes it hard to gauge who's winning or losing.
So, we abstract the hard-to-quantify mishmash of skill, statistics, and durability into a handy-dandy stat we call "HP".
golden kraken
It's not an actual stat or anything, it's just one of many things described as a...
note that this is often something that writers try to work around, though, and is generally considered a (necessary) failing of the system. Some folks explain it with magic, or better gear/medical care, or training that enables them to avoid the worst of the fireball
topaz garnet
For example, it'd be easy to flavor a Zombie as actually taking every Hit at face-value, the attack hits them dead-to-rights (heh) but they're just shambling corpsemeat and don't care that much. And just as easy, a Quickling narrowly avoiding attacks that were striking very true.
It's like how you don't just catch the golden snitch immediately - you've got to keep trying, wearing down any luck and chance, until you finally get the one true attempt that works and ends it.
golden kraken
it gets finnicky because the system sort of represents the latter bit with the Dexterity Saving Throw (how well you dodge the fireball), just as there is a roll to determine if an attack does any damage at all, but the point still stands
hybrid nexus
*In a flurry of steel, the evil barron is driven back by Fighter. None of the bl...
So, theoretically a sneak attack won't immediately kill the creature? Like, do I have to roll for an attack?
topaz garnet
So, theoretically a sneak attack won't immediately kill the creature? Like, do I...
Attacks will need to roll to hit yes
golden kraken
the flavor/descriptive side is internally consistent, and the rules work pretty well. They just don't always interact elegantly.
hybrid nexus
Attacks will need to roll to hit yes
I should have worded it better, do I still need to roll the 1d4 for the dagger in that scenario?
golden kraken
So, theoretically a sneak attack won't immediately kill the creature? Like, do I...
sneak attack is basically a trait that lets you do a load more damage when your opponent is distracted/cant defend against you properly
topaz garnet
note that this is often something that writers try to work around, though, and i...
One misconception is people treating HP as meat points, and asking "what are these superheroes that heal to full every morning?"
The answer is they're not healing overnight. They're resting, patching up those nicks and grazes, doing exercise to stretch their muscles, and getting back into shape. Of course, that isn't the definitive answer, but it's more sensible than meat points :P
golden kraken
I should have worded it better, do I still need to roll the 1d4 for the dagger i...
yep. For an overview:
you roll a d20 to hit, adding your DEXterity and Proficiency modifiers. If that meets or beats your enemy's AC (armor class), you "hit" them. This is called an "attack roll", or "roll to hit".
If you hit, you then roll damage. The dagger deals 1d4+ DEXterity, and then you add the Sneak Attack damage if you satisfy the conditions for Sneak Attack. Sneak attack damage starts at 1d6, and increases by another 1d6 every 2 rogue levels.
topaz garnet
So, theoretically a sneak attack won't immediately kill the creature? Like, do I...
sneak attack is a Rogue feature which says their attack does more damage if a certain criteria is met.
Basically, imagine two knights are clashing swords. And then one of them gets stabbed in the leg.
golden kraken
personally, I think it'd be cooler if sneak attack were harder to pull off but did more damage, but the rules have long-since been set.
hybrid nexus
I didnt know sneak attack was only for rogues
vernal onyx
I can’t believe I’m asking this, but what are the gods that Clerics worship? And do they affect any boosts or something?
hybrid nexus
I didnt know sneak attack was only for rogues
That's mildly disappointing, even more that it doesn't immediately kill or incapacitate
golden kraken
I can’t believe I’m asking this, but what are the gods that Clerics worship? And...
the "boosts" in question are represented by your choice of Domain. Each domain includes a ton of gods
gods depend on setting
so, ask your DM
harsh fjord
I can’t believe I’m asking this, but what are the gods that Clerics worship? And...
The gods depend on the setting, which the DM typically decides. They have no mechanical impact according to the rules, but the DM may rule otherwise.
fleet field
That's mildly disappointing, even more that it doesn't immediately kill or incap...
Balance is a necessary factor
golden kraken
That's mildly disappointing, even more that it doesn't immediately kill or incap...
aye, having it be an alternate win condition to whittling down an enemy's HP would be fantastic
hybrid nexus
Balance is a necessary factor
How often do you achieve sneak attacks?
It'd be balanced if you had to work to achieve it
fleet field
How often do you achieve sneak attacks?
Read the feature
golden kraken
alas, it would also be more complicated and less beginner friendly, apparently, so we don't have it. If you ask me, the designers underestimated players' ability to pick things up on the fly, but it is what it is
fleet field
That specifies what’s needed to activate it
golden kraken
How often do you achieve sneak attacks?
most turns
fleet field
In general I would say about 3/4 of the attacks a rogue makes will trigger sneak attack, if they play smart
topaz garnet
I didnt know sneak attack was only for rogues
it's a class feature
Technically, anyone can try and sneak up to get a better beginning to the fight.
Rogue's Sneak Attack is more a 'hit them when they're distracted' or 'hit them in the weak spot' thing
golden kraken
you either need Advantage or an ally within 5 feet, which are both easy to get
topaz garnet
not an ally, just an enemy of the target
so in a free-for-all pit fight, a rogue is 'eating well'
hybrid nexus
This seems like other spells and traits are making logical ways to play worse for the sake of balance
golden kraken
<insert more grumbling about this design stripping away their class identity and basically just making them more mobile Fighters in combat>
topaz garnet
if someone's getting hassled by an enemy in 5ft of them, the rogue can sneak attack that someone.
golden kraken
it's a class feature
Technically, anyone can try and sneak up to get a better be...
yeah, Sucker Punch would probably be better name for this iteration, save for its inclusion of the word "punch".
fleet field
This seems like other spells and traits are making logical ways to play worse fo...
Dnd isn’t a reality simulator
topaz garnet
"Low Blow" or "Exploited Strike"
golden kraken
This seems like other spells and traits are making logical ways to play worse fo...
mind elaborating a bit?
golden kraken
"Low Blow" or "Exploited Strike"
ooh, I like those
topaz garnet
This seems like other spells and traits are making logical ways to play worse fo...
I assume this is in the vein of "they make sneak attacking worse for the sake of balance"?
golden kraken
more elegant than "dagger to the balls" for sure
slow hawk
And this channel really isnt for an ad hoc explanation of “why are things not like how I thought…”
golden kraken
And this channel really isnt for an ad hoc explanation of “why are things not li...
this is their introduction to dnd
hybrid nexus
Dnd isn’t a reality simulator
But it isn't exactly fun when you are trying to play creatively but get noped by the rules
golden kraken
where else ought we go
slow hawk
Without actually reading the rules, though, there is no context for the discussion
fleet field
But it isn't exactly fun when you are trying to play creatively but get noped by...
You can still play creatively
We never said you can’t
slow hawk
Nearly everything would make more sense if they had the structure first
fleet field
I would say it isn’t exactly fun if a rogue could just go “for x reason I think it’s logically reasonable that I slit this guy’s throat and Insta-kill him”
slow hawk
“Sneak attack” as an abstract concept is not that helpful unless you can understand how it fits as a rogue feature
golden kraken
But it isn't exactly fun when you are trying to play creatively but get noped by...
a valid point, from your position, but one that fades away once you get to know the system. There's still a lot of creativity to be had, it's just using game rules instead of real-world rules like physics
hybrid nexus
We never said you can’t
Fair point
topaz garnet
It's just that you won't really be able to instantly kill the final boss outside of a very curated list of potential instakill features or "instantly not our problem anymore" options.
After all, what Pixelatedcat just said
hybrid nexus
However it just seems odd that logical stuff we are used to gets replaced by different logic
golden kraken
one could then argue that having to internalize a set of rules to play the game is a drawback, but most people consider it a worthwhile one to prevent calvin-balling
topaz garnet
The combat rules exist in an abstraction - there's a bunch of reasons you can't just go "I slit the throat and kill them we win", and the same for them to you.
slow hawk
However it just seems odd that logical stuff we are used to gets replaced by dif...
This is true of all games
golden kraken
and besides, many DMs do allow (and encourage) bending the rules, or are simply good at using the rules to do what they want
slow hawk
Its a collection of mechanics designed for a particular purpose
topaz garnet
However it just seems odd that logical stuff we are used to gets replaced by dif...
As with any game, and welcome to DND you fall 500 feet instantly
slow hawk
If you want a reality simulator type of game then this might not be it
topaz garnet
It's also for a 'heroic fantasy' - how many stories saw the bad guy instantly killed instead of having at least some struggle - some climactic fight, or a big chase, or something like that?
golden kraken
However it just seems odd that logical stuff we are used to gets replaced by dif...
what zero said; valid criticism ^
slow hawk
In DnD dragons exist, that doesnt make sense but here we are
Humans can fly, lizards can talk
You put reality aside when you play any game
golden kraken
there are good odds that you'll come to love the game mechanics in their own right, but they definitely don't simulate reality all that well
slow hawk
Why is a soccer goal worth one point, why is the field a certain size. Because the rules say so
hybrid nexus
If you want a reality simulator type of game then this might not be it
I dont care about that stuff I'm just a bit salty about the daggers and sneak attacks
I love daggers
vernal onyx
so, ask your DM
So if my first choice of god will always been Pelor, and my DM says that what god doesn’t matter, can I just choose Pelor, unless he says otherwise?
slow hawk
its a game
fleet field
I dont care about that stuff I'm just a bit salty about the daggers and sneak at...
With daggers, they arent as low damage as they seem at first
harsh fjord
So if my first choice of god will always been Pelor, and my DM says that what go...
Seems fine.
slow hawk
If you are put off by a dagger’s stats in the game, i dunno
fleet field
Assuming a +5 to dexterity, a dagger does 1d4+5 damage, 7.5 on average
vernal onyx
Seems fine.
Okay thank you!
slow hawk
Assuming a +5 to dexterity, a dagger does 1d4+5 damage, 7.5 on average
These numbers are useless without context, they really do just need to sit down and learn the game
fleet field
Fair
hybrid nexus
These numbers are useless without context, they really do just need to sit down ...
I know the context
slow hawk
?
golden kraken
So only 2 damage higher on average on a hit
plus you can dual-wield or throw daggers, which further closes the gap, but does require the use of both hands
hybrid nexus
I understand the basic levels of how damage works
golden kraken
and has other benefits, like an increased chance to sneak attack (by virtue of having two chances to hit instead of one)
fleet field
Yeah, dual wielding daggers means you can attack more with them, closing the gap
hybrid nexus
But I at first talked about the logistics of daggers being 1d4
Then it turned into this somehow
golden kraken
but it also takes a bonus action to use the offhand attack, which means no Cunning Action for that turn, which is a rogue feature that lets you go faster/disengage from foes/Hide quickly
however Swashbuckler can effectively Disengage without spending a bonus action, so they use daggers quite well
Swashbuckler being a rogue subclass
slow hawk
This is getting deep into the weeds
unborn geyser
Hi, I am trying to make a campaign which will be my first time DM'ing and it will be the player's first time aswell, I have a fairly good understanding of the game but I was wondering how to make an easy yet good time for them (just a one-shot campaign kinda thing)
Also how the hell do you roll a D3
D4*
harsh fjord
Just kind of throw it up and it'll land however it lands.
Are you asking about how to create a one-shot or how to make it fun for the players or something else?
unborn geyser
all that, also like if i make enemies, how much info do i need for them
harsh fjord
I think it's easier on yourself if you just used a published one-shot rather than make it up from scratch.
golden kraken
Also how the hell do you roll a D3
summon an elder god to break geometry for you
unborn geyser
i just got confused cause there were so many numbers on the dice
harsh fjord
AC, HP, stats, and attacks would be what I'd imagine you need.
hybrid nexus
summon an elder god to break geometry for you
Time to go to the 4th dimension
unborn geyser
ok cool
fleet field
i just got confused cause there were so many numbers on the dice
ah do you mean how to read one?
harsh fjord
The d4 I see most often is a pyramid, and the number at the apex is the number rolled.
golden kraken
all that, also like if i make enemies, how much info do i need for them
heavily recommend not making your own monsters unless you're either very ambitious or pretty experienced; use existing statblocks
harsh fjord
Monster info.
fleet field
the monster equivalent of a character sheet
unborn geyser
where can i find some of those?
harsh fjord
See here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters
unborn geyser
cool thanks!
golden kraken
basic social contract stuff, I guess, though people are speaking about that more and more
harsh fjord
I'd strongly recommend just grabbing a one-shot. Here are some options: https://www.dndbeyond.com/posts/1625-peril-in-pinebrook-a-free-introductory-adventure
https://howtogm.guide/resources/the-green-blight-v1.0.pdf
https://www.shacknews.com/cortex/article/437/the-silvyr-tower-a-dampd-5e-one-shot-written-specifically-for-new-dms
golden kraken
share the spotlight, keep an eye on whether or not other people are having fun
spare flare
how strong is it to grapple/shove an opponent? does that benefit from extra attack too?
harsh fjord
"What my character would do" as an excuse for bad behavior is still bad behavior. Don't do it.
sharp garnet
If my character is a fighter what options do I have in playing in DnD
golden kraken
how strong is it to grapple/shove an opponent? does that benefit from extra atta...
totally depends on the situation and characters involved. And yes, it does benefit from extra attack
hybrid nexus
One specific thing is try not to use your actual knowledge to command your character
topaz garnet
Hi, I am trying to make a campaign which will be my first time DM'ing and it wil...
I don't think it's a good enough understanding of the game :P
My personal recommendations after having made many mistakes and thus allowing you to not repeat my failings:
Don't immediately leap into making your own statblocks.
Use the ones that come with the game and the books, figure out how they work, and then maybe add a trait here, alter a statistic there... eventually you'll be comfortable enough to make 150+ monsters like I have :P
sharp garnet
If my character is a fighter what options do I have in playing in DnD
Is it based on the backstory or how strong
topaz garnet
I don't think it's a good *enough* understanding of the game :P
My personal reco...
(so many of my early ones are quite... questionable and poorly designed - I wish to save you from my fate)
fleet field
how strong is it to grapple/shove an opponent? does that benefit from extra atta...
Grappling or shoving is done in place of a single attack, so it does benefit from extra attack
golden kraken
how strong is it to grapple/shove an opponent? does that benefit from extra atta...
ideally, you grapple them and then shove them prone, which gives them disadvantage on their attacks and gives your melee allies advantage on their attacks, which is quite potent. However, mages ignore the first drawback, and being prone also imposes disadvantage on ranged attacks, so it's situational, and some enemies are hard to pin down.
golden kraken
Is it based on the backstory or how strong
you build your character using the rules. You use your knowledge of the rules to make something that fits your backstory.
sharp garnet
Okay so what are the rules
topaz garnet
ideally, you grapple them and then shove them prone, which gives them disadvanta...
Well-
1: Mages can often ignore it by not making attacks, forcing others to make saving throws instead.
2: Prone applies disadvantage on attacks to the prone target if made from further than 5 feet away. Within 5 feet, it's advantage,
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harsh fjord
Okay so what are the rules
Specifically, the rules are here: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/basic-rules
You got it.
Or other ability.
topaz garnet
On your turn, you have
1 action
1 bonus action
movement
the ability to interact with an object as part of your action or your movement (like open door, pull lever, pick something off of ground)
action and bonus action are not interchangeable. Imagine them as different shapes. Sometimes, a feature may turn something with a time of 1 action into a bonus action, like Rogue's cunning action dash disengage or hide.
You don't automatically have a way to use your bonus action, correct. Anyone can access Two-Weapon Fighting, the one universal constant, by just picking up two daggers or something else with the Light property.
Otherwise it's up to features and traits or spells to give you something to spend it on
harsh fjord
According to the rules, you only have bonus actions if you have a feature/ability granting one, so your example wouldn't work by the rules. What the DM allows is another story.
topaz garnet
it's listed in 'actions in combat' - it's basically a "if you need to do something not listed it's probably an action but hey your DM might make their own ruling or adjudication"
golden kraken
According to the rules, you only have bonus actions if you have a feature/abilit...
the specific wording is "or other feature of the
game states that you can do something as a bonus action". Dual-wielding is a feature of the game, no?
sharp garnet
Okay ready done made it @golden kraken
smoky adder
the specific wording is "or other feature of the
game states that you can do som...
The Two-Weapon Fighting bonus action allows you to make an attack. It does not give the ability to make an intimidation check.
hushed parcel
Do u guys know what deity the order of the gauntlet worships?
glass summit
Do u guys know what deity the order of the gauntlet worships?
Helm, Tyr, Torm and Hoar
The Order is all about using faith to face evil, so it wouldn't be unreasonable for an individual of another faith but equally dedicated to rooting out evil to join their ranks
lyric fjord
I did my first one shot campaign tonight before the main one Saturday. Super fun!
proper imp
Hey everyone new to dnd and wanted to say hello
golden kraken
Hey everyone new to dnd and wanted to say hello
welcome
potent hornet
Hey everyone new to dnd and wanted to say hello
Hello welcome to club I hope your ready for pure manham
proper imp
Lol
Yah don't know what to expect only done a few single sessions though intrested in doing a campaign
potent hornet
Yeah me too we can discuss on dnd discussion
golden mantle
Do i need a map for my players to move on?
topaz garnet
not need
vast marsh
Do i need a map for my players to move on?
You don't need one.
fallen surge
Do i need a map for my players to move on?
Maps are not a requirement. They are generally only used for combat, and even then it’s optional
topaz garnet
but it's preferable for many people to be able to see and gauge things instead of having to ask for every tiny detail every single time
but it's also mostly for combat purposes
golden mantle
Are there maps for sale for the premade adventures?
vast marsh
Are there maps for sale for the premade adventures?
Many Virtual tabletops have maps that you could use
golden mantle
Many Virtual tabletops have maps that you could use
Can i only use these virtually or can i like print them out to play it with my friends
vast marsh
I don't really know but you could probably find a way to print them
golden mantle
You think printing that with a regular printer would be fine or would it look to goofy?
vast marsh
It should look okay but I don't know I've never tried
north cove
This isn’t exactly all that serious of a question, but how the heck do y’all pick a character to play? Like I came up with two different ideas for a character back stories and all for my first campaign but I literally can’t pick one
fleet field
Roll a die
vast marsh
You can always roll a wheel
fleet field
Pick which one fits the campaign best
north cove
I always wanted to try a hex warlock. But the other character I came up with fits better and is kinda goofy. I’ll probably go for him. Then
vast marsh
Or one the you know you'll enjoy playing
north cove
I already know I would enjoy both equally
vast marsh
What's the other
north cove
One’s a goofy sorcerer, who accidentally turned his own brother into a duck accidentally killed himself trying to teach the safety of fireball And the other is juts a hex warlock who’s story is sums up to him being mad about being dead
One’s edgy. And the others silly.
vast marsh
One’s a goofy sorcerer, who accidentally turned his own brother into a duck acci...
Why are they dead?
meager sparrow
This isn’t exactly all that serious of a question, but how the heck do y’all pic...
That’s the same problem I’m having 😭
north cove
He died via sacrifice. As in his brother sacrificed him to his own patron. after that he was resurrected by a necromancer and a few other things after that, he was free then formed a pact of his own
The sorcerer died, because he was trying to teach his apprentice how dangerous fireball can be. His apprentice is the daughter of his brother. Aka the guy he turned into a duck.
vast marsh
No like is the rest of the parry also dead and the campaign is in like the 9 hells
north cove
No, it’s just my character is undead. I just prefer and like playing undead
vast marsh
What race are they?
north cove
He was human
Since I can’t play reborn, I have to settle with Hollow one for undead. So I’m human
fresh fable
Why can’t you play reborn
north cove
From what my DM he said he doesn’t have the book for it. We’re playing online so I’m not exactly sure how that affects it.
In the campaign, I believe is homebrew
fresh fable
You can buy individual races for 1.99 on dndbeyond website
north cove
Ooo
fresh fable
https://www.dndbeyond.com/marketplace/sourcebooks/van-richtens-guide-to-ravenloft scroll down and you should see the option for reborn
somber needle
hello I am a DM looking for a group to play online with (AEST)
slow hawk
vernal onyx
Why do DM people have those cardboard things that cover them kinda
topaz garnet
DM screen
vernal onyx
For what
topaz garnet
some notes, rule tips, lets them hide their dice
vernal onyx
Oh
onyx yoke
Yep
vernal onyx
Okay thank you
topaz garnet
it'd be like playing battleship with a mirror behind you
onyx yoke
Another reason could be to hide some figures
topaz garnet
that too
topaz garnet
"Oh boy he has Tiamat on the table I wonder what that speck in the sky is"
vernal onyx
I only found out about DND because of the cartoon “Craig and the creek” when I was in elementary
I thought it was about acting out dragons in caves and stuff
onyx yoke
"You run into a dragon.. a red dragon" was a statement my dm once said and I remember my party panicked snce we didn't know about the fig due to her hiding it behind the dm screen
vernal onyx
"You run into a dragon.. a red dragon" was a statement my dm once said and I rem...
Woahhh
Wait what if one of the characters were color blind (not the person, but the character they chose)
I wanna see more color blind characters, mainly because that can give the DM something to work with and maybe give the character a challenge
topaz garnet
I thought it was about acting out dragons in caves and stuff
it's more a collaborative story, the DM is the world, extras, and villains, and monsters, and events, and the Players are the protagonist group.
The rules are there to provide an equal framework and provide consistency. So it's not "Oh I just kill them" you'd have to mechanically back up that your character's capabilities let them do that. Or pick a lock, bash a tough door in, intimidate someone, spread rumors, recall ancient esoteric magical theory, etc.
vernal onyx
it's more a collaborative story, the DM is the world, extras, and villains, and ...
Yes
I think I’ll like RP sessions
I never had a DND session in my life, but RP storyline sessions sound fun
topaz garnet
That, and you can't just say "I summon a hundred devils" - at most you could summon a devil. or if you had the budget and were of a level high enough to cast these spells, also use Planar Binding to keep one there as you summon another, and so on.
onyx yoke
It's a fun game as depending on the people they can get into character really well and make it both funny yet serious
vernal onyx
That, and you can't just say "I summon a hundred devils" - at most you could sum...
I’m a cleric, and I’m not sure what a Planar Binding is
Wait is it like a spell
topaz garnet
planar binding is a spell that basically lets you trap an extraplanar (from a different plane, like an Angel, Devil/Demon, Elemental, etc) and make them do a job for you
vernal onyx
planar binding is a spell that basically lets you trap an extraplanar (from a di...
Woahhh
Okay that sounds cool, thanks for the tip
topaz garnet
Also, remember, a Cleric isn't "the healer class", they're Clerics. A pretty good class. Your subclass (your Divine Domain) will define your role much more finely. For example, a Life cleric and a War cleric will have very different capabilities granted by their subclass.
vernal onyx
Also, remember, a Cleric isn't "the healer class", they're Clerics. A pretty goo...
Wait hauh
topaz garnet
plenty of other classes can access healing
vernal onyx
But when I checked the cleric spell list, I don’t remember seeing a attack spell
topaz garnet
they have some good ones, like Guiding Bolt (1st level), or Spiritual Weapon (2nd level)
exotic remnantBOT
vernal onyx
they have some good ones, like Guiding Bolt (1st level), or Spiritual Weapon (2n...
Oooooh
onyx yoke
Cleric: Life Domain. The Life domain focuses on the vibrant positive energy – one of the fundamental forces of the universe – that sustains all life. The gods of life promote vitality and health through healing the sick and wounded, caring for those in need, and driving away the forces of death and undeath
this is a small definition of a life cleric
vernal onyx
But Clerics are still the best class for healing, right
topaz garnet
I'll point you to check the basic rules thoroughly to make sure we're on the same page. Don't worry about memorizing what the rules are, just try to remember at least the vague outlines, and where to find the specific rules.
vernal onyx
Oh
vernal onyx
I'll point you to check the basic rules thoroughly to make sure we're on the sam...
Okay thank you
topaz garnet
But Clerics are still the best class for healing, right
due to the Life Domain, a cleric with that subclass, would be pretty good statistically. However, other than that, there's not any, like... "healing stat" - they're pretty equal footings.
vernal onyx
Cleric: Life Domain. The Life domain focuses on the vibrant positive energy – on...
Okay cool, thank you
vernal onyx
due to the Life Domain, a cleric with that subclass, would be pretty good statis...
So is there a better class for being a healing role/supportive role
onyx yoke
yep yep. I had that saved as i made a life cleric in the past and needed a small definition for it
topaz garnet
So is there a better class for being a healing role/supportive role
"healing" has a couple, but life domain cleric is the simple "healing number go brrrr" option.
Supportive is quite nice on clerics, druids, and bards, all in different aspects of course. Clerics are often the holy/life energy stuff, and a decent few general spells. Druids have a bunch of spells only really showing up on their list. And bards are extremely versatile and have a lot of enchantment and illusion spells.
However
you've basically got six ability scores (only one will influence your spells as a cleric, being Wisdom), and then "what level are you" to determine your Proficiency Bonus. So there's not like a 'healing stat' or anything. This is what keeps things from devolving into a world of warcraft spreadsheet simulator
vernal onyx
However
you've basically got six ability scores (only one will influence your sp...
Ohhhh
I see
onyx yoke
yeppers
topaz garnet
Also no need to keep pinging me, I'm here :P
vernal onyx
So there isn’t really any better or good options for a healing supportive role
topaz garnet
But yes, check out the basic rules linked in the post by Dyno, I also recommend the Handbooker Helper series
topaz garnet
So there isn’t really any better or good options for a healing supportive role
life domain is very solid
vernal onyx
Okay, thank you both/all
onyx yoke
Yep your welcome
cosmic bronze
um hi. I’m kind of interested in starting D&D but don’t really know anything, I’ve seen to take a look at the handbook to start, can I find that here in the discord or do I have to search it up?
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solemn light
um hi. I’m kind of interested in starting D&D but don’t really know anything, I’...
The above resources can help you get started! They include the free basic rules, which are similar to the Player Handbook you can purchase, but don't include as many class and race options. You don't need to read all of the rules before finding a game, but having a look over character creation and combat rules before finding a game can help speed things up. And of course you can ask questions here!
cosmic bronze
The above resources can help you get started! They include the free basic rules,...
thanks, I’m taking a look and oh my god there’s so much information 😭
solemn light
It definitely feels that way at the start. Which is why it's important to remember you do not need to read all of it. Just read the bits that are relevant to you at that point and keep things simple to start.
You could read through every single class and how they work, and all their spells.. but that's a lot . But if you have a general idea of 'I think I want to play a druid'- just read druid. Just look at the 1st level abilities for now. No need to do homework on something you won't use just yet.
One skill that's really helpful for D&D is not memorisation of all the rules and mechanics- it's just knowing where to look them up when you get round to needing them.
topaz garnet
thanks, I’m taking a look and oh my god there’s so much information 😭
You don't need to memorize it, just read it so you can have a vague outline of it and then know where to find the rules later
For example, knowing "oh there's a rule about this somewhere, let me find it" instead of "I have no idea if there's a rule for this that or the other thing"
cosmic bronze
would it be strange to have a neutral good paladin…? im interested in the class but I’m not sure I quite wanna be goody goody although the dndbeyond website stated that they typically are
topaz garnet
not at all
solemn light
Yep! 5e paladins can be any alignment.
topaz garnet
no alignment locks, that's just typically what they tend to be
cosmic bronze
cool cool okay! yeah makes sense haha
solemn light
5e, the current edition of D&D, is much 'softer' on alignment than earlier editions. In earlier editions paladins were locked to being 'Lawful Good' and were often played as very strict goody two-shoes.
In 5e alignment is a guideline. You can even ignore it, but it's just another way of thinking of your PCs personality. Are they more individualistic and rebellious (chaotic) or have a strong respect for laws and traditions of society (lawful). Are they someone who would put themselves first before anyone else (evil) or someone who'd put others first even if it costs them (good), or somewhere between these.
So go with what makes sense for the concept in your head and the paladin you're making. Think about their oath and how they interpret that and why they've sworn to it.
cosmic bronze
so uh. question for that. could my character just be an idiot who was bored and randomly made an oath to a god and just goes around doing stuff bc they want to 😭 or is that a bit out of place
solemn light
That'd be more out of place.
So for a paladin they gain their powers through embodying their oath. They don't even need a deity, but they do need to follow their tenets and strive to live to them- otherwise they are not paladins. And if they break their oath it's even possible they can lose their powers or become oathbreakers (This is a lot more dependent on your DM)
cosmic bronze
hmmm okay I see
solemn light
Playing a paladin who struggles with their oath, or is still really learning what their oath means can be done. In fact I'd say it's very common for paladins over an adventure to question some of their tenets. Eventually they'll face something that will challenge them.
Also Paladins don't pick an oath until 3rd level. In part this is to simulate the first two levels being the time where a paladin is really trying to figure out their oath. But overall if you choose to play a paladin, you are choosing to play someone who will attempt to uphold their oath as best they can, and be empowered through it.
cosmic bronze
okay I see I see,, how would the first two levels work without the oath then? I mean I haven’t gotten to that part of the manual yet but they would probably be combat, right?
topaz garnet
"The most important aspect of a paladin character is the nature of his or her holy quest. Although the class features related to your oath don’t appear until you reach 3rd level, plan ahead for that choice by reading the oath descriptions at the end of the class."
solemn light
It'll be in the class section for paladins, at higher levels. And yes, first two levels work without an oath, but there is still the RP perspective that you are trying to work towards an oath, until you are ready to swear it.
If wanting to pick a class purely for the mechanics, without any intention to roleplay it, best chat with your DM about the why. It can be done, but for a few DMs it won't make any sense to them why someone would pick a class about adhering to an oath, only to not actually care about an oath at all- why pick it then?
cosmic bronze
fair fair yeah thank you :)
topaz garnet
You still have an oath, the features just don't appear until 3rd level
solemn light
You're in a sense 'earning' the oath.
cosmic bronze
gotcha
topaz garnet
it's only at 3rd level does the oath actually begin to manifest any divine power for your devotion and adherence
opaque forge
hey
solemn light
Little off-topic for this channel, but an anecdote related to this:
In one game I ran, a young squire NPC joined the party because she was determined to bring one of them to justice, but was talked into helping him finish his quest and save people.
At the start of her journey with them, she was determined to swear an oath of devotion to her order. But as she journeyed with the group, often acting as a moral compass and touchstone for them, and speaking with the people they rescued- or captured- and gained worldly experience, by the time she returned to her order to swear her oath, she didn't swear an oath of devotion- but redemption.
She started off trying to earn one oath, and by level 3, had discovered the oath that was truly calling to her.
But this is very DM dependent, and something you'll need to chat with your DM about if wanting to try and play with what your oath means to your character at low levels and if you actually end up changing your mind on what oath they'll take (which may depend on which subclasses you actually have access to)
opaque forge
what is 5e
solemn light
5e or '5th edition' is the most current version of D&D
solemn light
It is yep!
D&D has had a few editions over the years. They're very similar in concept, but have different rules and lore. If you've ever played an Elderscrolls (Or even Zelda, or many other videogame franchises) game, it's a bit like that- same overall idea and lore and worlds, but the game mechanics are different in each one, and sometimes lore and story is retconned.
opaque forge
D&D has had a few editions over the years. They're very similar in concept, but ...
which edition is your personal fav
crude musk
We have #dnd-elder-editions for discussing previous editions
onyx yoke
It's also what alot of custom builds for adventures are built off of
crude musk
This channel is more for covering the basics of the game
topaz garnet
D&D has had a few editions over the years. They're very similar in concept, but ...
Oh, that's a very good comparison. Huh.
opaque forge
This channel is more for covering the basics of the game
oh sorry about that
opaque forge
thanks
onyx yoke
which reminds me. Would a half elf that has connections to multiple criminal organziations be fluient in different langusges other than elf and common
solemn light
I'd def recommend 5e for getting started in, but if interested in older editions there is #dnd-elder-editions as Davyd mentioned.
onyx yoke
what
exotic remnantBOT
onyx yoke
ik
topaz garnet
how is it done
the basic rules has a step-by-step process to create a character
opaque forge
dyno coming in clutch
onyx yoke
yep
topaz garnet
dyno coming in clutch
well, i just ran a command for it
opaque forge
the basic rules has a step-by-step process to create a character
thanks as a dm how do yk when a player should level up
topaz garnet
either using XP or milestone.
XP is simple, XP for encounters (resolved however)
Milestone is more a "you got past the important story beat or won the boss fight, level up"
gray ocean
Milestone sounds... easier?
opaque forge
probably takes longer
topaz garnet
milestone goes at the DM's pace
it could go a level every session, to take it to the extreme
opaque forge
i see and what the highest level a player can be
topaz garnet
20
opaque forge
woah
topaz garnet
sounds low, but then you realize the difference is 17th level getting the power of city-destroying meteor swarms
and level 1 being the "fight rats in basement" level
opaque forge
imagine being lvl 20 and bringing back a player from the dead
gray ocean
power word kill, as someone new, is the funniest thing ever
true shard
imagine being lvl 20 and bringing back a player from the dead
you can do that from fifth level
topaz garnet
imagine being lvl 20 and bringing back a player from the dead
there's like 5 spells for that
opaque forge
wait is that possible
gray ocean
you can just kill something instantly if it has under 100 hp
onyx yoke
Plus the gear they have even at lvl 20 is highly nuts
opaque forge
you can do that from fifth level
no way
onyx yoke
yes way
topaz garnet
and you can do that from 5th level, with Revivify
within 1 minute of the death, and provided you can pay the diamond cost, you can revive someone before they're dead for too long
true shard
only if they have died within a minute and arent missing their heart or something
topaz garnet
gray ocean
also, with subtle spell and power word kill, does this mean my character can look at someone and they instantly die?
theoretically
topaz garnet
The description says you speak a word of power
opaque forge
i can just imagine a lvl 20 going through a whole campaign like the mc from an anime
topaz garnet
but components and descriptions are separate
crude musk
also, with subtle spell and power word kill, does this mean my character can loo...
That's beyond the scope of this channel
Remember, this channel is for the game basics
topaz garnet
i can just imagine a lvl 20 going through a whole campaign like the mc from an a...
DND isn't very good for solo. It's more of a party thing.
opaque forge
i see
true shard
yeah interacting with friends and doing fun adventures
fleet field
Main character syndrome is a whole thing people do and it’s bad
opaque forge
is there like games hosted dedicated from newcomer or should i just join any party and be fine
crude musk
People do host newcomer friendly games, yah
topaz garnet
look for newcomer-friendly games, and detail you're a newcomer in your looking-for-DM post/s
crude musk
just check out our game finding channels
opaque forge
Main character syndrome is a whole thing people do and it’s bad
isn't there roles that incourage that a bit tho like paladin
young aurora
🙂
topaz garnet
isn't there roles that incourage that a bit tho like paladin
ehhh no.
One of the most common jokes in the DND community is the paladin being irritated at the rogue. Think of a 'cop and criminal' buddy movie - wouldn't work with only half the cast
fleet field
isn't there roles that incourage that a bit tho like paladin
No??
crude musk
isn't there roles that incourage that a bit tho like paladin
"Main character syndrome" is a term to describe players who don't engage the game in a cooperative and collaborative manner and instead act as if their character is the main character of the game and everyone else are supporting characters
opaque forge
i'm actually very confused on what the difference is between paladin and fighter
crude musk
@fleet field This is the newcomers channel, so maybe ease off on relying on community based terminology
opaque forge
"Main character syndrome" is a term to describe players who don't engage the gam...
oh yeah that takes away for the fun
fleet field
i'm actually very confused on what the difference is between paladin and fighter
Fighters are well trained warriors; think a military veteran
topaz garnet
i'm actually very confused on what the difference is between paladin and fighter
Fighter is a simple martial Fighter, with very versatile options for subclass. They can be melee, ranged, strength or dexterity, etc.
Paladin is more a melee-oriented martial, with a desire for Charisma, and they get spells and have a sacred Oath.
fleet field
Paladins are warriors who swear an oath to a cause, generally holy in nature, and get magic as a result
crude musk
i'm actually very confused on what the difference is between paladin and fighter
A paladin is a holy warrior, a knight in shining armor, a divine crusader
A fighter is your classic sword wielding adventurer, maybe a mercenary or an ex soldier or a brigand
crude musk
No, thats a cliche/trope
opaque forge
oh
fleet field
Paladins don’t have to be good
opaque forge
i though it was because they are holy
crude musk
You will encounter a lot of stereotypes, cliches, and tropes about the game and it's various elements
topaz garnet
For example, a fighter can be... an eldritch knight (getting wizard spells), a battle master (specific maneuvers, such as tripping, disarming, pushing, etc), or a champion (more crits)
a Paladin can swear an oath of Devotion (basic "knight in shining armor"), or something like an Oath of Vengeance (will hunt down those who wronged you), or maybe oath of Conquest (described with "rule with an iron fist / douse the flames of hope")
crude musk
Those do not dictate how your game will be played
opaque forge
Paladins don’t have to be good
oh just have like an oath to something
i see so don't let your character limit your imagination
gray ocean
how does one write a background story for a character when they don't know/own the campaign the DM is running?
crude musk
Let the game rules guide your imagination rather than limit it
topaz garnet
for a vast majority of the game, "flavor is free" - describe things differently without affecting mechanics, you're good.
opaque forge
but keep in mind what they might do
crude musk
how does one write a background story for a character when they don't know/own t...
You ask the DM for pointers
Usually that happens in session 0
gray ocean
oh alright
opaque forge
Let the game rules guide your imagination rather than limit it
makes sense
crude musk
Usually it'll go something like:
Player: "I have an idea for my characters background, and it's something like....."
DM: "Cool, that sounds good, although given the setting and adventure, you might want to tweak......"
Stuff like maybe you want your character to have lost their parents in a war, but there wasn't actually any wars in recent history so the DM suggests a natural disaster instead. That kind of thing
gray ocean
I'm just thinking, my character is going to be an ex-soldier, so I'd need to know what sort of military she actually came from, y'know?
crude musk
Then you say "I want my character to be an ex-soldier, does that work and if so, what details do I need to know?"
onyx yoke
that would also depend on the race of your character
crude musk
It might be that there haven't been any wars for your character to be an ex-soldier from so instead your DM might suggest they're an ex-mercenary
gray ocean
Open communication is key ... I'm just very nervous as a new player lol
crude musk
that would also depend on the race of your character
How are you coming to that conclusion?
crude musk
I know you're referring to backstory, but it's a weirdly specific thing to call out that's largely untrue
onyx yoke
as different races would experince their military career differently. Like depending on the age of when they were in the military
crude musk
Only if your DM approaches species in that specific a manner, which is very much beyond the scope of this channel
gray ocean
as a player, should one research the campaign beforehand, or just let the DM guide it and explain it? 
crude musk
No, you shouldn't
The amount of information you need on the campaign will be relayed by the DM
gray ocean
okay, cool
topaz garnet
as a player, should one research the campaign beforehand, or just let the DM gui...
either
A: they're making it, so it's not public
B: it's a prepublished adventure, and reading ahead is metagaming / taboo
long pecan
Well hi you all. I am very new on dnd and I’m just asking for tips and advice on how I should play and how I can play properly.
gray ocean
okay good because I didn't want to feel obligated to buy a bunch of the sourcebooks >.>
crude musk
Again, not true
Metagaming has it's places where it's beneficial and places where it's not
topaz garnet
metagaming is good in a "let's not just kill each other" sense, a "we want a cohesive story and won't genuinely negatively impact the other player's experience"
crude musk
That's all well and good, but given this is a channel for giving people who are new to the game help and advice, try and keep things within the scope of that framework
topaz garnet
it's basically just
"be co-operative, have fun, help facilitate fun"
lyric fjord
hi i'm new to D&D not sure how i even play
exotic remnantBOT
quasi crane
hi i'm new to D&D not sure how i even play
I'd recommend watching a podcast to get the general idea
though I should tell u that those who make podcasts have really high quality games
gray ocean
So, with Tasha's Cauldron and Xanathar's guide, will I have access to most subclasses and other character creation stuff?
simple goblet
Subclass and spells yeah, for player races you will want Monsters of the Multiverse
simple goblet
Yes
topaz garnet
yeah the vast bulk are in those. There's a scarce few things left outside of them
gray ocean
alright neat-o
that's not as bad as I thought
Do y'all think it's worth buying the core rulebooks now or waiting until the 2024 re-release versions? And do we know if supplementary books like Tasha's Cauldron are getting re-released?
crude musk
So, with Tasha's Cauldron and Xanathar's guide, will I have access to most subcl...
As a newcomer, you don't need all the player options, so it's maybe worth not going overboard
crude musk
Do y'all think it's worth buying the core rulebooks now or waiting until the 202...
This a bit beyond the scope of this channel, #1026901431132885064 would be a better place to ask
gray ocean
what is that...?
I'm talking about as someone new, if I should wait for the new books or not
quasi crane
Do y'all think it's worth buying the core rulebooks now or waiting until the 202...
I'd say don't buy the books unless you have more than enough money
crude musk
I'm talking about as someone new, if I should wait for the new books or not
You can't discuss whether or not you should wait for the revised rules without discussing the revised rules, which is a topic for the unearthed arcana channel, where the playtest for the revised rules is being discussed
gray ocean
alright then
crude musk
I'd say don't buy the books unless you have more than enough money
That's not what they're asking, they're asking if they should by the 2014 core books or wait and buy the 2024 revised core books coming out later this year
echo kelp
The game designers have stated the rules revisions should be backwards compatible- that and if previous editions are anything to go by folks will still be playing 5th edition D&D without the new revisions…
crude musk
There's one, artificer, and it's Eberron: Rising from the Last War and Tasha's Cauldron of Everything
gray ocean
Where could one ask about D&D podcasts to listen to?
(I am not sure if there's a channel for it)
crude musk
hushed parcel
Ngl we the newbies should start a campaign with an experienced dm
That would be goated
exotic remnantBOT
torpid ivy
are you able to duel wield a shortsword and a dagger without needing to take a feat?
fallen surge
Yes. Both the shortsword and dagger have the Light property, so they can be dual wielded.
torpid ivy
I'm a rogue btws
torpid ivy
Yes. Both the shortsword and dagger have the Light property, so they can be dual...
k thanks so much
fallen surge
Though, you could just dual wield 2 short swords instead. There’s no particular reason for one of them to be a dagger
torpid ivy
yeah I was just thinking of using a dagger as a range option
shrewd charm
So, there's multiple different worlds, yeah? And they're all a bit different. So when you're making a character for the first time, do you have to have a specific world in mind first to be lore-compliant with that world?
crude musk
You generally want to make your character suitable for the setting you're going to be playing in
That setting will be determined (or designed) by your DM
pallid grail
I mean it isnt your #1 priority, id put creating a character you like and are comfortable with before the minute details of the world lore. That is unless you want to directly weave it into something specific to the world like being from a major city or a specific area etc. But if youre playing a campaign that starts in the underdark an unusual place, etc, then maybe something about how they got there would be a nice addition to backstory
like if your campaign takes place on some islands id put like how did you end up there from wherever youre from and things like that
brings your character a bit more to life
but thats my personal opinion
main oyster
What happens if a fight/encounter ends before I finish all my death saving throws ?
fallen surge
you continue making death saving throws once every 6 seconds
main oyster
🙈
fallen surge
luckily though, if you are out of combat then hopefully nothing will be preventing your allies from attempting to stabilize you
sharp garnet
Okay I'm looking for a DM
true musk
Okay I'm looking for a DM
Okay before we dive into that let's get you started with the basics.
true musk
Okay I'm looking for a DM
So first, I recommend taking the time to read some of the chapters in the free basic rules.
As for trying to find a Dungeon Master and a group to play with @sharp garnet are you trying to find a game to play in person or online?
sharp garnet
As for trying to find a Dungeon Master and a group to play with <@91560546549121...
online
fresh fable
https://youtu.be/p3N3gv1dTr8?si=ZmtnydeMHZrmlNjn @sharp garnet good video on making a backstory that can actually fit into a campaign
true musk
Okay, then you have few avenues. One of the ways is to read the instructions in #find-a-game .
It has instructions for you to ask the bot here on a server to make a post for you in #750812887697588356
You can also reach out to people have posted in #looking-for-players . Each posting has a thread that you can respond in to show you are interested in joining their campaign.
@sharp garnet take your time going through the links provided in the bot posts above.
Feel free to ask questions here regarding the basics of D&D.
lavish escarp
guys im new and still havent played , i think i might start online since there are no groups in my city.i wanna use avrae,how do i reduce sime hp points from character
harsh fjord
We have a channel for #ddb-avrae-help.
lavish escarp
no one responded
btw how do i find a dm/group that is okay for one sessions online only so i can dip my toes in dnd
all the guys i contacetd were looking for long term campaigns and it wouldnt be nice to just leave after one session while being a noob
harsh fjord
Search for "one-shots." Those are games meant to be played in a single session.
lavish escarp
Search for "one-shots." Those are games meant to be played in a single session.
where do i search
exotic remnantBOT
harsh fjord
The bot post above points to the server's Looking for Group/Game channels. But you can look elsewhere, which I've collected here: #third-party message
lavish escarp
The bot post above points to the server's Looking for Group/Game channels. But y...
thx
harsh fjord
Read through #find-a-game to learn how to use the server's Looking for Group/Game channels!
slim forge
Depends
true musk
all the guys i contacetd were looking for long term campaigns and it wouldnt be ...
I would recommend Adventure League, since it's comprised of single session adventures. So you only need to commit to one session at a time.. We have several channels in this server about it. Visit #adventurers-league if you're interested.
exotic remnantBOT
viscid frost
do tridents get the +2 from rage?
also if i attacked with a shield would it possibly get it aswell?
keen spruce
lime glade
Hey would anyone have any advice for a person who has never played dnd but watched it a little I’m trying to find a game that would help me learn
harsh fjord
You might be interested in the virtual weekends, which are include explicitly learn-to-play games: #dnd-newcomers message
Reading the newcomer material in this channel's pinned messages is also a good idea.
main fulcrum
The VDDW games aren't all LTP games, but they do offer them
cedar brook
Hey would anyone have any advice for a person who has never played dnd but watch...
I just got a group of friends together it is all our first time. We are starting with the starter pack set. Best thing I have found to learn is to just play and wing it for a bit till you get the hang of it haha
daring vine
Hey, just joined today. I'm looking join a DnD group, and I was kind of hoping to try an IRL table top game. How do people usally go about that?
torpid ivy
What would be great would be showing your friends d20 or the Vox Machina show 👍
harsh fjord
Hey, just joined today. I'm looking join a DnD group, and I was kind of hoping t...
You could assemble your friends, as Saia suggested. Or you could check out local places that might have tabletop programming: a library, a games/comics/hobby shop, a MeetUp group, or a school club.
daring vine
I heard my college had one, but the professor never got back to me on that. Maybe it ended. But other then that comic shops huh, I don't know what consider a hobby shop and as for game shops, all I have is GameStop. Not really a place hangout anymore.
harsh fjord
I heard my college had one, but the professor never got back to me on that. Mayb...
I'd reach out to the prof again. They get busy, and things that aren't vital fall between the cracks.
true musk
I heard my college had one, but the professor never got back to me on that. Mayb...
You'd want to look for tabletop game shops. They can often host events that feature tabletop games such as D&D. After all, they have a financial incentive to teach people how to play the game.
exotic remnantBOT
true musk
I heard my college had one, but the professor never got back to me on that. Mayb...
If your college had one but is no longer active. You could start it back up again.
And if that is the case, then I'd recommend having the club run single session adventures.
That way club members can participate as often as they can, leaving flexibility with changing schedules.
daring vine
If your college had one but is no longer active. You could start it back up agai...
Hmm, Maybe I'll try that. I never DM before, but I up for trying new things
true musk
For new DMs running pre-written adventures is best.
harsh fjord
Every DM at one point never DM'd before, but taking the plunge is the only way it gets accomplished!
daring vine
Besides IRL DND anyone looking for a player?
exotic remnantBOT
harsh fjord
The bot post above has the info for using our Looking for Group/Game channels. Using other channels to search for players/DMs is against server rules, so be aware of that!
true musk
For new DMs running pre-written adventures is best.
It also might worth looking into Adventure League adventures as there are serveral that are self-contained adventures and quite a few a free and designed to be played in single 2-4 hour sessions.
daring vine
The bot post above has the info for using our Looking for Group/Game channels. U...
Ah, got it.
raw trail
Hii:))
true musk
Welcome.
exotic remnantBOT
fallen surge
im new to this dicord but i can plat d&d
If you feel ready to jump into a game, the bot post above has instructions for you
limber yarrow
thanks
heavy trellis
Hi! I'm new, and I want to know more about the hard stuff for beginners, like the spells and that typa stuff
fallen surge
Hi! I'm new, and I want to know more about the hard stuff for beginners, like th...
Is there anything in specific you wanted to know more about? Otherwise, I'd probably just point you to the Basic Rules. Its very hard to answer an open ended question like that.
heavy trellis
Oh, sorry. Im trying to make a drow rogue, it seems basic, I just want to know if theres anything hard about that class!
Or race
heavy trellis
haha, sick
fallen surge
Well, "hard" is always subjective, but I'd say the one thing to look out for with that is to remember that Drow have Sunlight Sensitivity. That is a pretty major downside, to that race, and could hamper your gameplay
heavy trellis
Well, "hard" is always subjective, but I'd say the one thing to look out for wit...
So I could use like a hoodie or sum
..?
or does like the hoodie burn
fallen surge
You have disadvantage on attack rolls and on Wisdom (Perception) checks that rely on sight when you, the target of your attack, or whatever you are trying to perceive is in direct sunlight.
The effect cares about whether the thing you are trying to see is in sunlight too.
lyric fjord
hi!
heavy trellis
hi
heavy trellis
Look, im new too
But i can help you a little
you can use any AI
Or use any pre generated character
lyric fjord
i've got an OC....
smoky adder
What have you got so far? Where are you stuck?
lyric fjord
What have you got so far? Where are you stuck?
ive got art.... and is "artificer" still a thing?
smoky adder
It is indeed
heavy trellis
i've got an OC....
This video helped me alot https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IVAJrYOOtwI&t=290s
lyric fjord
It is indeed
ok... im an IT major in high school, and I want a class thats good with tech
heavy trellis
the same guy has a playlist with alll the classes
fleet field
ok... im an IT major in high school, and I want a class thats good with tech
Artificer is the closest to that
lyric fjord
Artificer is definitely not an easy class to play when making a new character. Believe me, my first character was a bard/wizard. Biggest mistake of my life, but still my favorite character.
I'd suggest if you want to play a tech-flavored character, you might want to play an easier class to start off with. Maybe a Rock Gnome Fighter or something with Tinker's Tools
and my character is a anthropomorphized Furret(Pokemon), from an alternet universe who was caught in a multiveral gateway accident and bla bla bla... Wibbly Wobbly, Timey Wimey... and ended up in the world of DND
he is good with tech.. or any mechanical things...
as simple a a quill, to as complicated as a Titan Class Cybertronian
smoky adder
For that part, you’d need to find a DM that will play along.
slate phoenix
What does VTT mean when they say that in #looking-for-players
echo kelp
Virtual Tabletop (VTT)
Basically a digital map with tokens to help folks understand where their character is in relationship to a scene/battle.
slate phoenix
does that include voice chat or do they just type
slate phoenix
also what about Roll20
slate phoenix
how about theatre of the mind
echo kelp
That means there are no maps - just text or vocalized descriptions of the scene
It's all imagined in your mind (thus theater of the mind)
proper belfry
hello! I am looking to join a group as player
exotic remnantBOT
lethal thistle
ok... im an IT major in high school, and I want a class thats good with tech
Artificer
Your entire premise is innovation and material creation
lyric fjord
Your entire premise is innovation and material creation
ok
smoky adder
That’s because it’s the one class added outside of the Player’s Handbook.
Masters of invention, artificers use ingenuity and magic to unlock extraordinary capabilities in objects. They see magic as a complex system waiting to be decoded and then harnessed in their spells and inventions. You can find everything you need to play one of these inventors in the next few sections.
slow hawk
Current version is in Tasha’s Cauldron of Everything. Older version in Eberron
lethal thistle
That’s because it’s the one class added outside of the Player’s Handbook.
Artificers got summoned to enlighten the masses
timid cloud
hello
left arch
Good night
I dont know basically anything about dnd,all i know is like,you have to choose a caracter and play whit it and roll dice to do something. somebody can explain me like,everyting?
exotic remnantBOT
topaz garnet
I dont know basically anything about dnd,all i know is like,you have to choose a...
The bot post links to the basic rules
slate phoenix
Would it be better to create a new character from scratch or use a premade character for my first character (using dnd beyond)
topaz garnet
it's subjective
you might want to look at a premade to see how it's all composed, and try making your own to figure out how the building process works, following the step-by-step guide in the basic rules
cosmic bronze
hi I’m back from last night. would my character be able to be an ex-paladin who broke their oath and is now something like a rogue?
main fulcrum
That could potentially work as backstory for a rogue character
slate phoenix
what does a premade character from dnd beyond not have so i can work on that
main fulcrum
Though you'd want to discuss it with your DM
slate phoenix
because i kinda just wanna go with the premade option and make my own character once i figure everything else out
cosmic bronze
okay cool! thank you!
harsh fjord
because i kinda just wanna go with the premade option and make my own character ...
I would guess that premade characters have everything they should at their given level, so I'm not sure what you mean by what do they not have.
slate phoenix
basically what im saying is is there already a premade backstory
topaz garnet
it'd be really difficult to make a backstory that can go into the game of any DM ever
smoky adder
I assume they’d leave the backstory open for players to put their own spin on it.
harsh fjord
I think the premade characters for the starter set modules include backstories that hook into the stories of those specific adventures.
slate phoenix
i must be severely uneducated about dnd then
i just thought like backstories were a requirement
smoky adder
Except for the BG3 characters. 
harsh fjord
They are pretty common, but they're usually worked out in concert with the DM so they're tailored to the world/setting/adventure.
slate phoenix
so i dont have to worry about backstory until i find a game
smoky adder
Who you are is at least in part shaped by the world around you.
harsh fjord
You can have loose concepts, but the specifics are for when you find a game, yeah.
slate phoenix
gotcha
smoky adder
So without the details of that world, it can be hard to make something that fits.
north cove
You could always come up with a story ahead of time, but just leave location names, blank then fill them in once you find a campaign and learn more of the world
fading sierra
how loud do spells with verbal components need to be cast? like is it always going to be 'alerts everyone in a mile radius' type of shouting or does it vary from spell to spell?
slate phoenix
also would one shots which im still not sure what theyre are, be better than campaigns to like learn how the game works
smoky adder
Oh hey, this first premade character actually does come with a backstory.
You previously pursued a simple profession among the peasantry as a shepherd. But something happened that set you on a different path and marked you for greater things: You stood up to a tyrant’s agents, and this marked you as a hero of the people.
You come from a humble social rank, but you are destined for so much more. Already the people of your home village regard you as their champion, and your destiny calls you to stand against the tyrants and monsters that threaten the common folk everywhere.
slow hawk
how loud do spells with verbal components need to be cast? like is it always goi...
There is no fixed rule, situation dependent based on DM
north cove
also would one shots which im still not sure what theyre are, be better than cam...
From what I’ve heard, yes
harsh fjord
also would one shots which im still not sure what theyre are, be better than cam...
One-shots are a fine way to get your feet wet.
slate phoenix
also what are one shots
north cove
Basically one shot are one quick adventure for one character
slate phoenix
oh
cobalt frigate
how loud do spells with verbal components need to be cast? like is it always goi...
One shots are one session long.
Campaigns could last one year (some have lasted decades).
harsh fjord
One-shots are games finishing in one session. (Ideally.)
slate phoenix
because i dont feel like i want the first thing i do in dnd be a year long campaign
cobalt frigate
TV analogy for D&D
One-shot = made for tv movie
Adventure = a tv miniseries
Campaign = a multi-season tv series
slate phoenix
whats the difference of an adventure to a campaign
cobalt frigate
See what I just posted above.
harsh fjord
Many adventures make up a larger campaign, basically.
slate phoenix
so adventures are multiple one shots, and campaigns are multiple adventures?
north cove
**TV analogy for D&D**
One-shot = made for tv movie
Adventure = a tv miniseries
...
That’s a pretty funny analogy you got
harsh fjord
One-shots have a beginning, middle, and end in one session. An adventure's beginning, middle, and end is drawn out over a longer period of time.
slate phoenix
i just thought that campaign and adventure were basically the same thing
cobalt frigate
An adventure could last several sessions. A campaign could have many different unrelated adventures.
My current campaign has been going on for two years. During the 20 (game) days of downtime of the campaign the PCs took a detour to have four personal side quests (all self contained adventures unrelated to the main campaign story arc).
harsh fjord
These terms are loose approximations; like any community, we don't always agree on what they mean.
slate phoenix
whats PC?
north cove
Player character
slate phoenix
dnd community seems to have a bunch of abbreviations that arent elaborated on
north cove
Don’t worry, I mean, I’m still pretty new myself, but they’re not too hard to learn
slate phoenix
you got any more you could run past me real quick
gray ocean
NPC is non-player character
gray ocean
Gamemaster
north cove
Basically, just another dungeon master
gray ocean
It's the non-D&D branded version of a DM
slate phoenix
so they mean the same thing
north cove
It basically upgrade
cobalt frigate
Game Master (GM) is the generic version of DM because Dungeon Master is trademarked by WotC (Wizards of the Coast).
gray ocean
Yes, but dungeon master is the term D&D uses for its brand
north cove
so they mean the same thing
Yes, DM means dungeon master for dungeons and dragons game. Master is for other table top games similar to DND.
slate phoenix
so other games like pathfinder use GM
north cove
I don’t know what Pathfinder is, but I assume so
gray ocean
Any game that's not D&D, because DM is a trademark
slate phoenix
mk
fading sierra
can a sorceror get their powers from just about anything the imagination could plausibly make up, so long as that thing provides them with innate magic? you know, same way warlock's patrons are more or less completely customizable with one of the only thru-lines being that they're the one providing the warlock the powers
harsh fjord
Ultimately up to the DM, but flavor is free.
north cove
can a sorceror get their powers from just about anything the imagination could p...
Sorcerers get their power from a long lineage of powerful magic users
For example, my current sorcerer has powerful, wild magic, because his great grandfather did some “ interesting activities” with a dragon
fading sierra
Sorcerers get their power from a long lineage of powerful magic users
so it's just limited to 'it's genetics', then?
or like... lineage
north cove
Pretty much yeah
harsh fjord
Check with your DM.
north cove
But I’m not an expert so check with DM
gray ocean
For example, my current sorcerer has powerful, wild magic, because his great gra...
He rolled to seduce the dragon?
north cove
No, he defeated the dragon in a dual
gray ocean
😆 okay just being sure
harsh fjord
so it's just limited to 'it's genetics', then?
From the class details:
Sorcerers carry a magical birthright conferred upon them by an exotic bloodline, some otherworldly influence, or exposure to unknown cosmic forces.
https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/sorcerer
So it's not just genetics alone, but the best person t clear it with is the DM.
fading sierra
From the class details:
> Sorcerers carry a magical birthright conferred upon t...
i see i see, thanks
north cove
😆 okay just being sure
Wouldn’t be a bad idea to try tho 🧐. Since currently, my character is the last of his lineage
gray ocean
As long as you make it fade to black perhaps
north cove
Can a skeleton even produce a lineage???
i’m gonna need some very specialized magic for that maybe homebrew sum with my DM
He’s already letting me fly using my cantrip gust. Since my character only weighs 5 pounds.lol
cobalt frigate
That's homebrew territory. We want to avoid talking about that here to avoid confusing new players.
north cove
Yea sorry about that
fleet field
so other games like pathfinder use GM
Yes
topaz garnet
so it's just limited to 'it's genetics', then?
It's about a sorcerous origin.
For example, draconic bloodline could be from birth, or it could be from bathing in the blood of a dragon.
Wild Magic could've been from being a child wandering into the feywild, or being in an arcane accident, or also from birth.
Divine Soul could be from birth, or you could be blessed mid-life as you undertake a divine destiny.
shrewd charm
What should I do after I read the first 12 pages of this - someone said the first 12 are the only ones you should really worry about if you're new, but should I keep reading? https://media.wizards.com/2018/dnd/downloads/DnD_BasicRules_2018.pdf
lyric fjord
how do i learn to play?
fleet field
What should I do after I read the first 12 pages of this - someone said the firs...
You should keep reading
First 12 cover the very basics of character creation, but they don’t explain the character creation options, nor how the game is actually played
fleet field
how do i learn to play?
Check out the link right above your message
exotic remnantBOT
lyric fjord
Hiya!
lyric fjord
I'm not...particularly new? I've started 2 games but they usually get ended really fast (dm quit both times due to irl issues) could anyone run me down a few things, basics and whatnot?
lyric fjord
Do you have a specific question?
Oh I just remembered, one thing was when I started a campaign once, the dm offered me some class that allowed my character to...shift? Parts of their body into one animals parts, but I cant find the ability/class that it was?
lyric fjord
It wasn't a druid, it was like a subclass of another class? I would've had to buy a book to actually use it in dnd beyond
It mightve been some barbarian subclass🤔
cobalt frigate
Barbarian path of the beast perhaps?
lyric fjord
Maybe? The more I look into it the more I start to think the dm just let me do something that doesn't exist 😅
lyric fjord
Barbarian path of the beast perhaps?
WAIT! You found it!
I cant post the picture but I found a page with the abilities I described! Thank you Oldman, and optionzero
cobalt frigate
Don't post that because that's against the rules posting copyrighted material
lyric fjord
Oh, well gladly I can't, thanks for the warning
main oyster
If dc is 25 but I roll a nat 20 and modifier is +2 so total is 22, does the attack miss because it's less than dc or it hits because it's a nat 20 ?
topaz garnet
you're saying DC and attack, those are different things
Attack rolls and death saving throws are the only things with special rules for a nat20/nat1
main oyster
Okay, consider it ac of the enemy
topaz garnet
If something's AC is 25, and something with only a +2 bonus to hit attacks them, they can only hit if they roll a 20 on the d20, which makes the attack automatically hit and be a critical hit
main oyster
Okay, so even if total is less than ac, a nat 20 hits ?
topaz garnet
yes, that's what automatically hitting means. It hits regardless of the total or their AC.
main oyster
👍 thank you
topaz garnet
If you're making an ability check or saving throw, rolling a 20 (or a 1 for that matter) does nothing special, it's a number like any other.
So for a DC 25 check or saving throw, a +4 bonus will never succeed - you need, at minimum, a +5 to even begin having that chance to succeed.
topaz garnet
Yeah. Common misconception, but automatic success on saves/checks isn't a rule. A DM may rule otherwise (with effects debated to be positive or negative), but that's the base rule.
On the other hand, it means having an absurd bonus to a skill begins to auto-succeed certain (low) DCs.
gray ocean
so D&D beyond comes with the PHB Content right?
So how do I see the other subclasses that come with the PHB?
topaz garnet
no, but it has the basic rules
exotic remnantBOT
gray ocean
well, in character creation, I thought
crude musk
Again, no
topaz garnet
The basic rules are linked in this block of stuff
the PHB has more subclasses and a couple more racial options I believe
gray ocean
huh
crude musk
It has the Basic Rules for free, plus the Elemental Evil Player's Companion
gray ocean
I thought I had read that
crude musk
Everything else you have to pay for in some capacity
topaz garnet
for example the basic rules only has the Evocation subclass for wizard
the PHB has the 7 other subclasses (for each school of magic)
crude musk
?books
exotic remnantBOT
crude musk
Fighter is free, all the base classes are except Artificer
gray ocean
well I meant because my only option would be champion
crude musk
Or you can buy the single sublcass you want for $1.99
gray ocean
I'd rather not
crude musk
¯_(ツ)_/¯
slate quest
Fighter is free, all the base classes are except Artificer
Interesting. Wait. You have to buy artificer?
crude musk
yes
slate quest
Thanks.
Well. Having to buy artificer kills my idea of that bomb character I wanted.
rain moss
i dont quite understand, what are you buying?
crude musk
It's $1.99 to unlock any of the 4 subclasses, which also gives you the base class
crude musk
i dont quite understand, what are you buying?
They just said, the artificer class
rain moss
i get it you get a class but what content do you get from abuying a class?
crude musk
The rules for said class
slate quest
I can't spend no money on anything game related rn.
crude musk
And the ability to use it in D&D Beyond
gray ocean
I may just have to use the base rule characters and races forever lol
or homebrew I guess
slate quest
I may see if my dm will allow me to homebrew my idea.
gray ocean
Okay so, silly question, what exactly IS a Champion Fighter? I know it's meant to be the most simple (sub)class, but how does one roleplay/make one without it leaning towards the other (sub)classes more?
Like, say you want to make a super strong half-orc... how would that not fall under, like, a barbarian?
topaz garnet
The subclass description has a bit of detail to it
But flavor is free
A champion is basically just fighter plus
gray ocean
but fighter is already vague
topaz garnet
Like, say you want to make a super strong half-orc... how would that not fall un...
A barbarian has to be strength melee, and leans towards unarmored defense, and fights with rage
A fighter is on raw skill, and leans towards using armor, and can use basically any weapon effectively
topaz garnet
but fighter is already vague
It's basically its strength
It doesn't really get into a spot it's countered by, and its subclasses are extremely diverse
gray ocean
so a barbarian would be more brute strength and rage while a fighter uses strength with trained skill
smoky adder
Literal strength, as in the ability score.
A barbarian only adds their rage damage to melee weapon attacks using strength.
Fighters could have builds that prioritize dexterity instead of strength.
gray ocean
so, for the orc example:
You'd be a big, raging brute with no armor and a massive axe or
A trained orc who wears chainmail and uses a longsword
also, I'm talking more about flavor
topaz garnet
We've got... runes, parallel timeline echoes, maneuvers, Wizard spells, psionics, samurai, cavalier, for fighter
Whereas barbarian is mostly what flavor of rage: animal totem, ancestors, big anger, beast anger, storm anger, etc
topaz garnet
so, for the orc example:
You'd be a big, raging brute with no armor and a massiv...
A good example
crude musk
@gray ocean A fighter is the martial generalist. They're someone whose life is conflict in one form or another and as such has picked up some degree of mastery of almost every form of armed combat
As for champion, they take this general skill in martial ability and hones it further. They can run further, fight longer, strike harder. They're elite
As stated, they're Fighter+. They're SAS or Navy Seals
gray ocean
I see
I didn't want my character to be too special but I guess that's the point of D&D
crude musk
What I've described doesn't make a champion character special
gray ocean
I meant in terms of story and such
crude musk
Yes, I know
gray ocean
being an elite fighter makes you inherently special compared to your average soldier
but yeah, I guess it's the only choice I have anyways
crude musk
D&D doesn't lean towards playing your completely average person
Adventurers are, by nature, not average
deft sigil
being an elite fighter makes you inherently special compared to your average sol...
Perhaps consider it specialized and not special if that makes you more comfortable.
vernal swan
What is a stronghold?
crude musk
That's not really a newcomers question, more something for either #dnd-discussion or #non-dnd-topics depending on how specific/general you're being
foggy plover
Why are there no campaigns in eu time?
crude musk
Given that the EU spans almost a dozen timezones, I'm sure there are campaigns posted in those times
You just have to keep an eye on #looking-for-players and be persistent
bright rock
nocturne marsh