dnd-discussion

[vale kettle]

what opinion exactly?

[severe rampart]

I did not create it, though I did commissions for it to be made, yes, my two favorite DnD Characters that I made

[blissful ibex]

it's an issue of clarity; if a DM is new to the game and hears "Forced movement doesn't trigger OAs." And interperates thinghs like Dissonant Whispers to be "Forced Movement", that's a problem

[burnt valley]

Who

[hybrid girder]

Nice!

[blissful ibex]

It's best to be clear when discussing the rules to avoid miscommunication

[lost ice]

Colby from d4 is pretty much friends with everyone

[jovial shadow]

Yeah Colby

[faint thicket]

It's one of those, subtlety different words and rulings that most people don't catch

[young widget]

You just elaborate. I don't see the issue.

[faint thicket]

A lot of 5e has weird and subtle wording changes

[severe rampart]

couldn't have they made more wording changes?

Two Weapon Fighting, Two Weapon Fighting, and Two Weapon fighting are different things, with no way to differentiate them by name

[tender fossil]

Not to be confused with two weapon fighting which is something entirely different

[craggy summit]

I assume one of them is the feat, but what are the other two? 😅 Just curious haha

[young widget]

Ideally though, it would be better to have an official game term but whatever.

[faint thicket]

Like despite popular belief, 5e isn't simple, it just looks like it. There is so many oddly specific rules you have to know to run it RAW.

[severe rampart]

Two Weapon Fighting - Bonus Action
Two Weapon Fighting - Fighting Style

[undone rain]

Are we on this again lol. But yeah they shouldve worded it different

Why not two weapon combat or smth

[craggy summit]

Ahhh yes yes, they should've made the BA to be offhand strike or something like that 😅

[rough basalt]

True.
5e is more middle of the road than some people realize.

[uncut zenith]

Yeah, it's definitely one of the most popular systems, but it's not an easy system.

[lost ice]

I've heard a take that 5e can we straightforward if you want it to be or get crunchy if that's what you want

[scenic zinc]

'24 did that by making the bonus action part of the weapon property of light and removing the named bonus action

[jovial shadow]

Two Weapon Fighting with the bonus action is in 5e. in 5.5 it is now called Dual Wielder. You are confusing your editions and terms

[rough basalt]

I played like 7 sessions of Shadowrun 5th world and now nothing feels crunchy to me.

[faint thicket]

It's a lot like Skyrim, simple seeming but under the hood is a mess of wordings and rules that get really strange when taken literally.

Where's a lot of other crunchy systems are far more straightforward.

[severe rampart]

I'd rather not go into this conversation again, especially when you can go into DnD beyond and check for yourself

[rough basalt]

Well skyrim is just simple.
It's just stand still and swing while the enemies slowly walk towards you going "never should've come here!"

Or sometimes slowly walking towards them saying the same words if they have a bow.

[severe rampart]

Also because I've never played 2014 in my life, and I've clarified that I am not talking about any feats or fighting styles

[faint thicket]

I mean in the sense Skyrim's mechanics are coded in some... Very interesting ways

[rough basalt]

Oh yeah.
It's typical Bethesda spaghetti code

[faint thicket]

And you will never know because it doesn't show you your stats

[young widget]

I have a question for you guys. I want to know from people who are super active here.

[severe rampart]

Shoot

[young widget]

Are the WOTC team actually active in this chat?

[burnt valley]

Nah

[severe rampart]

Not in this chat, no

[young widget]

Which chat?

[severe rampart]

Moderators, yeah, from time to time, and even the community managers

[jovial shadow]

Fine.... Two Weapon Fighting (5e): "When you take the Attack action and attack with a light
melee weapon that you’re holding in one hand, you can
use a bonus action to attack with a different light melee
weapon that you’re holding in the other hand. " Dual Wielder (5.5): " Enhanced Dual Wielding. When you take the Attack
action on your turn and attack with a weapon
that has the Light property, you can make one extra
attack as a Bonus Action later on the same turn
with a different weapon." Straight from sources.

[severe rampart]

the ddb-feedback, support, etc

[vale kettle]

Sup mods

Sup community manager

[scenic zinc]

Is the intent to speak to the designers of the system? If so, this discord server isn't the place for that.

[young widget]

Oh, snap. I was hoping they were more like us. Gamers who just randomly talk about things in discord.

I'm a discord junky.

[scenic zinc]

They might be, but it's unlikely they'd interact here of all places

[severe rampart]

I don't think a lot of them play DnD, I might be wrong though

[vale kettle]

They dont like us ;_;

[frail wasp]

they do play dnd rofl

[scenic zinc]

lol what

[severe rampart]

Do you blame them

[young widget]

They should stop working so hard and talk about D&D.

[faint thicket]

... Am I gonna get blacklisted for my opinions

[vale kettle]

What did we do???

[minor cargo]

Usually staff engage in more structured ways. For example: #forgotten-realms-qna-archive (this is the forgotten realms Q&A - you need the candlekeep role to see it and other archived channels).

[rough basalt]

A lot of devs don't play what they dev so not too farfetched to think that.

[burnt valley]

I mean i already got a warning once or twice i think

[frail wasp]

what

[severe rampart]

not us, us, but just the general community

[jovial shadow]

As everyone can see 5e's Two Weapon Fighting, is now 5.5's Dual Wielder.

[rough basalt]

Tho that's mainly in the video game industry

[severe rampart]

but the mods and managers are cool

[faint thicket]

Throw me to the abyss and I will return a mane!

[scenic zinc]

dnd isn't a video game :v

[frail wasp]

devs absolutely test what they make, what are you talking about >_<

[vale kettle]

Damn it feels wrong in a way

[rough basalt]

Sure that's why I added the 2nd message

[undone rain]

Hey it can be (if your imagination counts as a tv)

[young widget]

I'm going to work on D&D. Bye.

[jolly agate]

Hello

[faint thicket]

See you

[rough basalt]

It's mainly in the video game industry that some devs don't play their own games outside of what they have to for dev

[undone rain]

Sup

[jolly agate]

What are we talkin abt?

[minor cargo]

LaTia (our CM) is pretty active in many channels. But obviously like everyone else, free time to spend on Discord ebbs and flows.

[scenic zinc]

bg3 is very fun. It isn't the ttrpg lol

[frail wasp]

oh, yeah, devs dont play the game after it ships because they were playing it throughout dev and they're burned out

[jolly agate]

Wsp mate

[faint thicket]

Honestly I wish people treated DND more like a video game at times. I have allies basically throw combat encounters because doing proper strategy is too gamey

[undone rain]

Oh nothin much, made my harengon fighter in heroforge. Took me some time but i finally did it. How about you

[scenic zinc]

You don't need to treat it as a video game in order to be strategic

[frail wasp]

yeah and during dev time, the game is not nearly as polished, the rough edges can be -grating- to play day after day after day

[rough basalt]

People who think strategy is being too video gamey have a misunderstanding imo

[jovial shadow]

Compared to AD&D and Basic, D&D is pretty much a video game on paper. Just compare the PC's abilities and the subclasses

[rough basalt]

Sure if you're spending like 30 minutes planning out everyone's turns.

[severe rampart]

In what way do you mean

[rough basalt]

Well it'd make sense for a team of fighters to be like "hey I'll deal with this guy, you deal with them!"

[scenic zinc]

It very much isn't a videogame. It is more than the written portions of the system.

[faint thicket]

I have been in multiple conversations that stated me trying to perform well in combat, was treating the game like a video game

[rough basalt]

But some people think doing that makes it too video gamey

[fast latch]

Wait a minute are you actually Pack Tactics?

[faint thicket]

Yeah

[severe rampart]

wait they are?

[faint thicket]

Yeah share friends with the guy

[fast latch]

I don’t know that’s why I’m asking

[scenic zinc]

Wow. I guess tacticians in the 1500s were also playing a videogame too then, by their logic.

[severe rampart]

I didn't know that, at all

[jolly agate]

can't complain ngl

[undone rain]

Glad to hear it

[young widget]

I'm Gator! I'm on Kobold's account!

[frail wasp]

video games aren't defined by having video output, they're defined by how much strategy they contained /s

[faint thicket]

Yes, that's the most common rebuttal but it never works, Reddit sucks

[jovial shadow]

glad you used /s

[severe rampart]

I'm not into optimizing, what does this mean

[rough basalt]

I wonder how old men of that time saw Call of Duty: Bohemian Civil War in terms of realism

[fast latch]

Holy crap on a cupcake hi! I love your content!

[young widget]

Neither am I! I like fireball!

[faint thicket]

Gator is his mascot(?)

[fast latch]

No, Gator is his friend

[severe rampart]

All I know from Pack Tactics is that he cameo'd in the Crap Guide to DnD - Dungeon Master and was hilarious

[long knot]

I wish classes like Barbarian actually had some features to incentivize tanking, like per hit damage reduction paired with an aoe aura centered on themselves that reduced creatures to hit if you went to attack someone other than the barbarian or something like that.

[fast latch]

He does spell reviews and stuff

[severe rampart]

at least, I laughed at his part

[faint thicket]

True

[young widget]

I did? I don't remember that lol.

I dont think I was around back then.

[scenic zinc]

I can't tell if you're joking or if you don't know about the barbarian subclasses

[frail wasp]

i assume its sarcasm

[severe rampart]

I might be thinking of a different kobold fella

[rough basalt]

I've been trying to start avoiding dndtube more cause I just kept finding myself angry at the confident misinformation.

[vale kettle]

What class-subclass has DR tho?

[faint thicket]

Or a taunt (okay one has it)

[frail wasp]

barbarians get resistance to damage

ancestral barbarians get a taunt

[young widget]

Damn. Do you want a hug?

[scenic zinc]

Ancestral Guardian barb

[vale kettle]

I mean compel duel is basiclly a taunt no?

[rough basalt]

I do actually.
I've never watched your videos so you're not who I'm talking about.

[minor cargo]

I think D&D YouTube has some great DM resources! Like recently I came across “subtle rolls” from Tabletop University (I think that’s the name of it - sorry, can’t easily check atm).

[severe rampart]

He does? ooo I like Mirror Image

[faint thicket]

Yes but classes in general lack taunt features with few exceptions

[glad arch]

It is, my dm is implementing it next session

[long knot]

A single subclass having a single target taunt is not the entire class

[young widget]

You probably shouldn't because there's like 5 hate threats about me. Including on this discord.

[glad arch]

*trial running it

[scenic zinc]

You're now moving the goalpost.

[severe rampart]

Don't worry pack tactics, you seem very cool to me

[scenic zinc]

The entire class has a damage resistance feature, also.

[faint thicket]

He originally said barbarian, not their subs

[mild lodge]

hi

[rough basalt]

Nah I will.
I get that shorts are shorts.

[mild lodge]

erm

[fast latch]

Hi new person

[faint thicket]

Resistance isn't a tanking feature, it's a survivability one

[scenic zinc]

They do have it. Just because you need to choose a specific subclass doesn't mean the class doesn't have it.

[mild lodge]

hi :D

[fast latch]

Damn, you literally joined today

[tawdry sentinel]

Damage below half hp would seem very berzerkery

[scenic zinc]

lol wat

[glad arch]

In order to tank you need to survive

[long knot]

Which 2024 made worse by having more monsters do force damage, and is useless on all non b/p/s damage

[mild lodge]

why is this channel constantly talking about dumb stuff

[fast latch]

How long have you been playing DnD?

(Talking to Sandstorm)

[severe rampart]

It's the norm here

[rough basalt]

Because it repeats the same conversations two to three times a day

[faint thicket]

A tank is someone who takes damage for others, it's basically impossible for the barb to prevent enemies from going around it

[mild lodge]

oh I secretly don't play dnd, I just like the lore of the monsters and such

stuff like the false hydra is awesome to me :D

[severe rampart]

I knew it! I knew some people here didn't play DnD!

[young widget]

I was thinking of making a short on how to abuse roll 20. Back in the day I use sign up for games as a life cleric because theres always a demand for healers but as soon as I get in, I would always change class or subclass to whatever I want. This worked almost every time.

[glad arch]

You are the dm that wrote a book

[fast latch]

HAH

That’s interesting

Well, glad to have you anyways

[scenic zinc]

More is not the same as many. Bludgeoning, Piercing, and slashing is still the majority, by far.

[fast latch]

What’s your favorite monster?

[faint thicket]

Lmao

[young widget]

I am evil.

[mild lodge]

false hydra my beloved 💖

[blissful ibex]

It's called grappling

[faint thicket]

I know you mean well but this physically hurt me

[severe rampart]

Oh, actually, I have come to a way to also "fudge rolls" on Beyond20 (The extension) to get whatever outcome you want, found this out the hard way when a player of mine used it and I had to confront them about it

[mild lodge]

speaking of which what are yalls fav monsters?

[vale kettle]

Sul katesh

[crystal latch]

5e did a funny where Life Cleric is simultaneously a bad healer and a good one
Lifeberry fixed the subclass

[undone rain]

Ogres

[mild lodge]

why?

[glad arch]

False hydra makes a lot more sense if youre not actually running it

[severe rampart]

It's insane that it can even do that, this is why I prefer Owlbear

[glad arch]

The idea of false hydra is great just its not very playable at most tables

[mild lodge]

like what kind

[woven flint]

I awaken!!!
From nothing, I wasn't slumbering, I was... Playing Dark Souls pondering the machinations of life, yes 🧐

[scenic zinc]

fh is kinda dumb when played out.

[tawdry sentinel]

Hezrou cos the new one looks like the frog demon from Jackie Chan adventures stood on a pile of spaghetti

[glass granite]

I greet the Lord of Goofy!

[faint thicket]

Because it's homebrew, however I'm not judging it's just a me thing

[mild lodge]

ok but but what monster do you think is most interesting if not that then?

[fast latch]

Dragons

Out of all the types, Black is probably my favorite because my favorite combat Ever was my PCs versus a Black Dragon Wyrmling at Level 3

[undone rain]

Uhhhhhhhhhhh idk. Just ogres

[woven flint]

Yes, tis I, the king of goofiness incarnated

[frail wasp]

gelatinous cubes are the bedrock of D&D

[faint thicket]

Sahuagin

[severe rampart]

The one that's not constantly trying to kill me

[minor cargo]

Our server tends to highlight topics that are:

1. Really easy to understand (requires almost no background knowledge, generally vibes based)
2. Can easily be turned into an argument

And there’s only a few topics that nicely fit in there.

But every once in a while, something pretty new or novel comes up. In my recent memory, we’ve talked about “does a commoner really know what a Dragon (true) is? Or is it like the word “fish”?”

Sometimes people bring up pretty nuanced and tricky table/interpersonal situations.

Sometimes people bring up interesting world ideas!

[crystal latch]

I really like Karrnathi Undead Soldiers
They're a good optimization test, CR 3 with pack tactics and 3 +4/d8+2 longbow attacks

10 of them make a good fodder mob around level 10

[mild lodge]

tbh I love dragons in dnd but they seem kinda basic and boring now, esp since the different variants don't seem to do anything too different (?)

[woven flint]

My favorite monster is the Boneclaw.
I love the idea pf a failed Lich damned to serve the most Evil being it can find

[severe rampart]

Fish... Dragon... it's genius... why didn't I think of that

[fast latch]

No, it’s definitely Beholders

They’re literally on both the ‘14 and ‘24 handbooks for being so iconic

[faint thicket]

10 undead soldiers at level 10 is the ultimate test of skill

[crystal latch]

Not the ultimate

[faint thicket]

Fair

[woven flint]

But also, I can imagine a horrifying chase scene with this beastie

[long knot]

Only works on creatures at max one size larger, one or two at a time, and can just be escaped with teleportation. I want a base feature for every barbarian that actually incentives the tanking fantasy

[glad arch]

Not sure tbh, but like i said false hydra is a really cool idea so i dont blame you for liking them. Just from everything ive heard they dont play well as a dnd encounter

[crystal latch]

The ultimate test is like... clearing a module without recovering slots on a long rest

[frail wasp]

gelatinous cubes have their lineage embedded in far more fantasy settings than beholders :V

[mild lodge]

what do they even do in dnd though

[crystal latch]

Fibonacci EoR is another good one

[frail wasp]

they're cube oozes

[glad arch]

Be trash cans

[woven flint]

Slimes are THE fantasy rpg monster of all time

[buoyant oar]

Goblin is right there.

[woven flint]

Lord Ghaunadaur would be pleased.

[frail wasp]

mimics get a close second

[long knot]

Die to ranged attacks

[faint thicket]

Because they are a really strange homebrew that requires a lot of build up but aren't interesting or are too hard to use for long periods of time

[frail wasp]

if anyone wants to argue mimics, that's fair

[fast latch]

I like how they can be bound to particularly evil Children

[woven flint]

Yeah, but low level slime is always like.. THE first monster! Smh...

[sly crest]

the scariest thing about the false hydras is the human head

[severe rampart]

Goblins

[mild lodge]

aren't mimics just like designed to make chests more annoying or (reminder that I don't play this game)

wat is their purpose

[frail wasp]

yeah but mimics are so prevalent, they're in dark souls

[sly crest]

Not necessarily. You could also wear them as pants.

[frail wasp]

like, straight up

[severe rampart]

Slimes are too weak, Goblins all the way

[snow zephyr]

Rust monsters are my favorite

[glad arch]

A mimic can be a lot more things then just chests btw

[woven flint]

Slimes are ALSO in Dark Souls
At least in the first one
You find them before fighting GD.

[glad arch]

Just the classic mimic is a chest

[snow zephyr]

I love seeing my players come up with creative solutions for avoiding equipment damage

[mild lodge]

like what?

[scenic zinc]

rust monsters are pointless. You can just attack items anyway.

[frail wasp]

no yeah I still stand by gelatinous cube, just saying mimics get around too

[jovial shadow]

Yep. I play Dark Souls. I can attest. There are two types one is easier to kill than the other

[fast latch]

The scariest mimic is the toilet mimic

[snow zephyr]

They're a puzzle fight

[woven flint]

I refuse to say GD's actual name

[rough basalt]

There's a few DnDtubers I sometimes wince at, but they make really good DM advice videos.

[glad arch]

Honestly i believe any object can be a mimic

[woven flint]

"Nice puzzle! FIREBA-"

[south prawn]

“A slime appears” Dragon Quest

[mild lodge]

grandfather clock mimic !!!!!

[woven flint]

The Rust Monster when they encounter a Monk:

[scenic zinc]

Health potion mimic 🙂

[glad arch]

Wait are mimics a dnd original creation?

[fast latch]

Goblins are way better than oozes

Because they can be friends

[south prawn]

Also I’ve been playing through the final fantasy pixel remasters and it’s crazy how influential D&D was to the enemies. There’s a Bugbear in 2

[scenic zinc]

I believe so, yes

[glad arch]

Or just popularised by it

[severe rampart]

I will never forget, Boblin the Goblin

[woven flint]

Oozes can also be friends.
They're not really intelligent afterall
Just keep it fed

[sly crest]

you mean "because you can toss them," right?"

[frail wasp]

invented for D&D

[glad arch]

They struck gold with it then

[mild lodge]

@glad arch @severe rampart @scenic zinc creatures wat's the most interesting monster you've played with so far?

[severe rampart]

My players aren't bound by this limit, they somehow tamed an animated broom of attack

[severe rampart]

As a player, or as a DM?

[mild lodge]

both :D

[scenic zinc]

Official statblock or 3rd party included?

[snow zephyr]

I've seen improvised slings, rock traps, acid traps, and pitfalls

[fast latch]

My first two DMPCs ever (I know, don’t worry, I kept them way weaker than the PCs) were Roblin and Zoblin Scargrues

Roblin was a Bard, Zoblin was a Monk

[mild lodge]

also both !!!!

[rough basalt]

As a DM my favorite monster I've ran was my named customized Archmage last night.

[severe rampart]

As a player... hm... probably a Druid turned Lich

as a DM, I really like the Undead Shambling Mound

[scenic zinc]

3rd party is going to be any of the epic boss monsters from the monsters of drakkenheim book

[glad arch]

Dm's homebrew illusionary mage

[rough basalt]

As a player my favorite monsters are Shambling Mounds.

[severe rampart]

Sora you know ball

[snow zephyr]

I like monsters that provide an opportunity for my players to flex their creative muscle. Watching people put together a plan is awesome

[mild lodge]

wat is the context of the druid turned lich ?

[glad arch]

I love spellcaster enemies, so much more interesting then most low level 'martial' enemies

[woven flint]

There's actually a Lich Druid Statblock now

The Lichen Lich

[mild lodge]

oh well wat about it was customized?

[buoyant oar]

The best slime is the Oblex. Which was the result of a Make-A-Wish Foundation recipient.

[frail wasp]

thems fightin words

[fast latch]

Pointy Hat made a Druid Lich, the Blight or something

[snow zephyr]

Trap monsters are a lot of fun, take kobolds

[severe rampart]

in an effort to protect their people they turned to darker powers, however it came with a cost and they sapped the life out of the forest, now they reside in the heart of it, forever alone in the remnants of their village

[glad arch]

The imfamous tuckers kobolds

[rough basalt]

Spell list. I replaced the spells with others to fit a cold focused wizard. And I changed its Force damage attack to Cold. And gave him an ability to drag the players into a demiplane and lair action to summon mephits.

[woven flint]

My favorite enemies as a player are the ones I can play punchies with back and fourth
I just love a good brawl 😔

[severe rampart]

What are trap monsters?

[glad arch]

Set traps, lure you into ambushes, swarm with a group. That stuff

[snow zephyr]

Trappers, they're best used for ambushes and lairs. They set traps and attack from range

[mild lodge]

the humble orc

[severe rampart]

✍️ ... I see

[snow zephyr]

There's a rare few that rush in to capitalize on the disarray caused by traps

Beholders are an excellent example of a boss monster that's trap oriented

[woven flint]

If I were a dm, I'd show a level 1 party a Boneclaw, not as a combat, but as an omen, just doing its masters orders somewhere

[severe rampart]

Holy moly, Boneclaws look so awesome, i thought they looked like a skeleton hand

[desert trail]

Do you know in which chat I could use bot commands? (I'm new here)

[woven flint]

Hulking Skeletal figure that can just disappear into darkness

[woven flint]

They're gnarly!

[glass granite]

Probably #dnd-newcomers unless it’s the looking for games ones, then anywhere

[snow zephyr]

Tanar'ri are a good hierarchy of evil group of monsters

Baatezu are better for linear hierarchy though

[woven flint]

Imagine, you and your party late at night are woken up in the middle of the night by the sound of perhaps something like a trashcan falling over, you go to investigate an alleyway and you encounter a Boneclaw. Tall skeletal figure hunching over a man.. its about as big as the building you're staying in.. sharp claws, red eyes that are oddly very aware of you as you approach.. and it just steps back into the shadows, grabs the man and they both disappear without a peep

[livid slate]

How would y'all make a mechanic around dying?
Ive been trying to delve around to see what could work but every time I try something --multi classing-- destroys it

[crystal latch]

Boneclaws are mildly amusing

[mild lodge]

how so?

[blissful ibex]

#homebrew ?

[south prawn]

Sounds like #homebrew

[livid slate]

Good point

[snow zephyr]

Elaborate, there may already be one

[glass granite]

Dying is a…huh? I’m confused

[scenic zinc]

What do you mean

[livid slate]

Not mechanic uh a class

[scenic zinc]

Death saves too boring for you?

[livid slate]

Where they want to die as much as possible instead of survibe

[glass granite]

OH. Zealot barbarian

[signal ore]

You could make it so that once someone ties you gotta tie their corpse to your back and drag them to a fountain or something, I don't know

[livid slate]

No cause even zealot doesn't necessarily WANT death

[glass granite]

A class that wants death will do nothing but throw itself off a cliff

[scenic zinc]

2e wizard. D4 hit die

[snow zephyr]

That's probably #homebrew

[glass granite]

But yeah, #homebrew

[snow zephyr]

Or #dnd-elder-editions for death curses

[signal ore]

How does one start playing dnd?

[mild lodge]

find a group, then just enjoy yourself

[scenic zinc]

Become a dm

You'll never be without a game then

[snow zephyr]

Get the rules, get pen and paper or an app, get some dice, start rolling

[signal ore]

Instructions unclear, am I supposed to play with myself?

[snow zephyr]

That's oracle systems, they do exist. But you're gonna need 3-5 other people

They don't need to be friends, but they will likely end up as friends

[signal ore]

When does vecna from dead by daylight become involved?

[blissful ibex]

I mean, you can #dnd-discussion message

[woven flint]

Vecna isn't from Dead by Daylight, he's from here, D&D lol

[snow zephyr]

Vecna is from oD&D

[signal ore]

But the game is all I'll have (a singular tear forms in my eye)

[torpid hound]

I think you meant to say Vecna from Stranger Things /j

[snow zephyr]

D&D is a scheme made by Gary Gygax to make nerds form friend groups /j

[signal ore]

Is this not the stranger things subreddit chat

[woven flint]

Imagine a cat giving you a death stare at this current moment.. >:[

[signal ore]

In fact what's a discord, where am I

[torpid hound]

Subreddit
Chat
Pick one

[buoyant oar]

Vecna from stranger things had the same effect on me as

Based on Hasbro's Dungeon's and Dragons at the end of Honor Among Thieves.

[signal ore]

Whatever one let's me play with people faster

[torpid hound]

Chat

[signal ore]

Do I need to buy a book

[snow zephyr]

There's free rules online through ddb

[torpid hound]

You can play the game with just Free Basic Rules if you're a beginner

[blissful ibex]

no, here's the free version of the rules https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024

[rough basalt]

Getting to play dnd fast ain't happening unless you're lucky, paid game, starting soon on Roll20, or something like a West Marches.

[blissful ibex]

or Adventurers League

[torpid hound]

My friend group can't play until Summer

[blissful ibex]

?al

[cosmic roost]

What is the Adventurers League?

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[snow zephyr]

But if you're marching west how will you come to Gondor's aid? /J

[buoyant oar]

West Marches my beloved. Once I finish my current one I shall never do this again.

[signal ore]

My friend group doesn't exist - this is so sad

Also thank you all so for far helping

[snow zephyr]

It's okay, D&D is good for making friends

[normal canyon]

It is?

[signal ore]

Apparently so

[mild lodge]

I'm exploding you with my mind rn

you go boom

[signal ore]

"Boom, headshot," John tf2

[mild lodge]

@severe rampart @rough basalt @glad arch are there any kinds of dragons that don't just sit on a pile of gold all day and like actually do interesting stuff?

[jovial shadow]

Your guess is good as mine. I started off with highschool friends. I didn't really care to talk to anyone out side of the game at other tables.

[minor cargo]

With the OGL (open game license), it’s also a great way to experience some game design and publishing steps!

[signal ore]

I mean technically dragons don't exist 🤓

[mild lodge]

what

[signal ore]

For you see you asked if there are any dragons that do anything but sit on gold, but dragons don't exist so I made the joke "I mean technically dragons don't exist 🤓" as an attempt at humor but I can see that the world is not ready for my comedic genius yet so I will depart from the profession

[umbral girder]

Most of them actually. The sitting on treasure lets them warp reality around them slowly.

[mild lodge]

is this real

[umbral girder]

They usually actively look for more to increase their power/range

[frail wasp]

yes, sitting on money does warp reality a little bit

[fast latch]

Some of my best friends come from DnD

[umbral girder]

DnD Dragons are very magical beings

[frail wasp]

I mean a LOT of money

[still plover]

Dragons are as individual as any other intelligent being, though their considerable lifespan means they often work on different timescales to most folk.

Some might research great secrets of the cosmos, carry out long-term plans to reshape the world around them, or simply delight in the day to day ravaging and mayhem their presence causes.

[fast latch]

Real and online

[frail wasp]

sitting on 5k aint gonna do much, sitting on 5 bil, different story

[umbral girder]

A red dragon could turn a mountain range into a range of Volcanos for example.

Or a gold dragon could take their gold to a part of reality that has no magic and force it to exist there.

[signal ore]

But making friends is hard aeon :<

[umbral girder]

Plus it isn’t just gold in dragon hoards

[mild lodge]

Or a gold dragon could take their gold to a part of reality that has no magic and force it to exist there.
why would they ever do that though

[umbral girder]

Like black dragons specifically like taking away symbols of hope from people too

[umbral girder]

Why not?

[mild lodge]

what's the point lol

[snow zephyr]

They also take pleasure in the coinage and symbols of fallen kingdoms

[mild lodge]

so much effort and for what 🥀

[umbral girder]

Giving magic to an area for themself to use or other people to use

It’s like setting up a cell phone tower but for spellcasting

Make sure there is more coverage in the world to cast spells and use magic items.

[mild lodge]

wat do they gain from doing that though?

[worthy nebula]

Sup

[frail wasp]

they make the world more comfortable

[severe rampart]

Bahamut

[frail wasp]

like imagine you think its too cold, so you turn the climate up a few degrees

[umbral girder]

Good Dragons are mainly the good guys who help the world. So they “gain” the satisfaction to help people. Or other reasons too. Dragons are just as complicated as people after all.

[worthy nebula]

I'm on about getting borders gate 3 is it worth it ?

[mild lodge]

wat do they do?

[worthy nebula]

[umbral girder]

He is a god

[severe rampart]

Saved my life one time

[umbral girder]

Bahamut is a god of justice specifically. He just appears through out the multiverse to help people or give good life lessons or stop evil doers (mainly his sister’s followers)

[mild lodge]

wow bahamut giving out free coaching in this economy ?

[mild lodge]

who is their sister btw?

[snow zephyr]

Blue dragons are fairly interesting, they're intelligent and manipulative. They'll often have cults in cities to enact their bidding

[umbral girder]

Tiamat the chromatic Dragon Queen of cruelty, greed, and tyranny. An evil Goddess.

[jovial shadow]

His sister is Tiamat

[snow zephyr]

Also the launch BBEG for 5e

[umbral girder]

Tiamat’s been in D&D for a long time. She was one of the bad guys of the 1980s DnD cartoon.

[snow zephyr]

Yes, but she featured heavily in the Hoard of the Dragon Queen module

[mild lodge]

there's a dnd cartoon?

[hot marlin]

In the eighties. It was terrible.

[umbral girder]

Was*. It’s an old one but gotten some recent popularity in Brazil oddly enough.

Got cameos in the 2023 DnD movie and in a bunch of books over the last few years.

[hot marlin]

Bunch of kids get on a magical ride, buy our toys, they get transported to the world of D&D, the "dungeon master" gives them magic items, an evil guy tries to steal their rather weak magic items.

[mild lodge]

there's a dnd MOVIE???

[hot marlin]

Don't forget to buy the toys

[frail wasp]

theres like 5 dnd movies ... the most recent one is pretty good

[umbral girder]

Yeah a bad one from 2000 and a pretty good one in 2023.

Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves.

[snow zephyr]

The first hardcover adventure for 5e put Tiamat in the front and center

[umbral girder]

Came out the same time as the Mario Movie too.

[hot marlin]

Honor among thieves was... Eh, it was okay.

[umbral girder]

Or at least the same month.

[jovial shadow]

I liked the one from 2000. Marlon Wayans was one of my favorite comedy stars. He made the movie watchable

[umbral girder]

Shame we aren’t getting a Dragonlance show.

[snow zephyr]

D&D the t-shirt, D&D the lunchbox, D&D the flamethrower, D&D dolls. Merchandising, merchandising, merchandising, where the real money from the movie is made

[frail wasp]

DND baloney 😄

[rugged hawk]

No. Even if we did, they'd just cancel it or ruin the ending like most other series

[umbral girder]

DnD has a lot over the last 52 years it’s been around

[dense plume]

Guys im helping someone choose there first dnd character

[umbral girder]

Nice!

[frail wasp]

it even has a crossover with MTG

[valid geyser]

i thought honor among thieves was fun, but i can live without d&d related shows/movies for the next 20 years

[umbral girder]

Well yeah MTG is made by WOTC who also make D&D after all.

[mild lodge]

lowkey how much do you think dnd has inspired various media throughout the years now?

[rugged hawk]

Hardly impressive, MTG is the Fortnite of children's card games

[mild lodge]

like books and stuff

[frail wasp]

DND is the progenitor of most fantasy worlds today

[umbral girder]

A majority of RPG games no doubt.

It’s like one of those early trend setters.

[valid geyser]

i know im not the target audience, but i have found the marketing push for the CBS cartoon and the kenner toyline to a lesser extent (since warduke kicks ass and I own one of the NECA remake figures theyre very nice)quite strange. Are people that nostalgic for it?

[frail wasp]

with a big asterisk because a fair amount of DND setting is pulled from other fantasy settings

[wispy vector]

Based Spaceballs reference

[valid geyser]

whenever i hear people talk about it, it's more like "wait that's a thing?" instead of "oh my god i remember that!"
also my local ollies has been clogged with d&d cartoon figures for years, right next to ant man and the wasp quantumania figures

[frail wasp]

tracing influences is a bit of an art, but DND got that big fingerprint for sure

[snow zephyr]

D&D had a Rick and Morty crossover as well as the well known stranger things entanglement

[lilac pilot]

I have been wondering this for a while
Would a bite from a vampire count as an unarmed attack that could be overpowered in the hands of a monk?

[mild lodge]

is anyone here actually a dungeon master or did you just like pick the role for the color

[snow zephyr]

Yo

[frail wasp]

yes

[umbral girder]

Yeah I’ve been running as a DM for 8 years.

[mild lodge]

cuz 70% of the server being DM's doesn't seem quite right lol

[snow zephyr]

I've been running since around 2011

[umbral girder]

A lot more DMs talk about the game

Because we know more about the game usually.

[mild lodge]

ok but but what are your silliest world ideas then !!!!!

[snow zephyr]

Players are expected to know enough to build and play characters, DMs are expected to know a lot more

[mild lodge]

^^

[valid geyser]

5.5e monster manual no since the bite is a save effect

[umbral girder]

Eh I don’t really go for comedic stuff in my dnd games. Can’t think of much.

[snow zephyr]

Water weird spas

[mild lodge]

sads

[mild lodge]

wat do these words mean

[dense plume]

I invited them here i hope that wasn't overwhelming for them but I told them to head to Character discussions

[frail wasp]

Water weirds are creatures made of water

[lilac pilot]

Ah makes sense, I was about to freak out because there was a vampire monk in my game and I wanted to make sure she wouldn't destroy my party

[snow zephyr]

A spa that uses water weirds to act as massage jets and manicurists

[frail wasp]

Spas are places where you relax

[jolly agate]

Druids are weird

[ripe nimbus]

ancient city with skyscrapers which could only be made from metal forged by dragonbreath, and the dragons are long gone, so skyscraper building tech is lost to time

[umbral girder]

Closest I’m thinking of is a Silver Dragon going to festivals disguised as a House cat with a sign saying “pick me up for prize” but keeps the weight of a Silver Dragon.

Like the old Norse myth

[snow zephyr]

Kebab shops in the city of brass

[mild lodge]

how do you convince a liquid to work as a massager though

[umbral girder]

Magic probably

[frail wasp]

It's silly yeah

[snow zephyr]

Basically just a planar traveler's vacation itinerary as an in-game item

[cyan nymph]

I've been playing and DMing Dungeons & Dragons for 45 years. Every edition (except 4th)

[umbral girder]

Actually Water weirds have person level INT maybe? I need to check.

[mild lodge]

I don't play the game what does this mean 🥹

[mild lodge]

oh do they actually?

[umbral girder]

Yeah Water Weirds are sapient beings

[minor cargo]

Haha so I think it’s important to note that even though this is a big server, this server makeup isn’t the “average” D&D group. Like the vast, vast majority of players and DMs aren’t in this server. It’s definitely skewed.

[mild lodge]

wow

[umbral girder]

They just can’t talk.

Wait a Water weird is smarter than a Water Elemental? Interesting

[snow zephyr]

Planechase is a setting that addresses the cosmology of D&D, interplanar travelers would naturally have an interesting and amusing vacation plan

[rough basalt]

Silly world idea for me would be.
The Empress of one of my homebrew countries disguises herself very poorly and tries to mingle with her subjects instead of actually running state affairs.

[frail wasp]

elementals are all instinct

[mild lodge]

wat is even the difference between the two?

[dense plume]

I hope this isnt to forward for them i invited them to this server so they can get helped by an entire server of knowledge

Gotta spread wisdom

[ripe nimbus]

in fairness, so is grappling and shoving.

[rough basalt]

A lot of people who've seen her well can tell through the disguise it's her but they play along with it.

[ripe nimbus]

that said i wonder why bite is entirely a save effect, that seems slightly questionable

[molten pumice]

Also if you take both the player and dm roles you end up blue like a dm regardless of how much you play ☝🏿 🤓

[umbral girder]

My guess is a Water Elemental is a magical creation while a Water Weird is a dude from the Plane of Water.

[frail wasp]

water weirds are native I thought

[snow zephyr]

One's a primordial manifestation of water and the other is a quasi sapeint water being

[umbral girder]

That’s why I said “guess”

[snow zephyr]

But my lore's a touch out of date

[frail wasp]

Water weirds are predators, water elementals are a force bound together by elemental power

[drifting zodiac]

Ah yes lifting world serpent, drinking the sea, and outrunning fire

[mild lodge]

yummy sea

[snow zephyr]

I lose track after the second sundering

[cyan nymph]

Yup, Int 11 for Water Weirds

[frail wasp]

nope I'm wrong

[drifting zodiac]

Thor was a beast

[vale seal]

I got a voucher for my local game store, should I get heroes or adventures in faerun

[frail wasp]

best answer is "it depends" lol

[snow zephyr]

Faerun is the forgotten realms

Most of 2014 is forgotten realms

[mild lodge]

@umbral girder wat do you think the best pack animal for travel would be in dnd? just normal horses or?

[snow zephyr]

Getting memberberries for the crown wars

[cyan nymph]

Other way round

[jovial shadow]

Water Elementals are native the the plane of Water. Weirds are just nature spirits

[snow zephyr]

And then you have genasi to further muddy the waters

[mild lodge]

@snow zephyr @cyan nymph wat do you tinks

[frail wasp]

you'd have to play to find that one out I'm afraid

[snow zephyr]

Mules, they're cheaper so you can buy more early on

[languid portal]

If a dhampir ate dreams would it still eat like a vampire eats blood or like how drowzy eats dreams (or like how a dementor sucks souls ig). I’m having the biggest inner battle with this cuz the other things they can hunger for seems more like an obvious physical biting requirement (flesh, blood, spinal fluid, life essence) but like dreams are such a non physical thing (I mean so is life essence but I see it as obviously physical to consume idk) so like would eating dreams be the only one to not show any physical proof of it ever happening or would it have a physical requirement in order to consume it.

[cyan nymph]

Though water Weirds are more nature spirits and are summoned by magic but live on the prime material

[mild lodge]

mules are like big horse + donkey hybrids right

[snow zephyr]

Essentially

Pack mules are inexpensive and easy to maintain

You can also ride them a la Sancho Panza

[cyan nymph]

Mules are great for Dwarven Knights 😁

[mild lodge]

o ya maybe weird question but is there any explanation in dnd for how 4 unnamed randoms can go on like 1 adventure and suddenly be able to fight god himself

[frail wasp]

yes its called the hero's journey

its a very convenient story spine because its extremely flexible (great for fantasy) and highly functional (so you can feed it a lot of different tones and still get an A tier story)

[cyan nymph]

I'd say they are all drained by contact, so the bite may trigger a dream state so the DHAMPIR can feed. Similarly life force would be a component of the blood (unless you want alien vampires like in the film lifeforce)

[frail wasp]

an argument can be made that its the most successful type of story of all time

[languid portal]

Yeah it that makes sense. It also makes it so that all forms of eating leaves evidence which is probably good for balance or something

[rough basalt]

Ye hero stories are one of those things that as long as the Hero and his Journey is executed well, you'll have some people love the story.

[turbid vessel]

the hero story has been a beloved narrative since Beowulf

[mild lodge]

the heroes journey except he actually just dies 5 minutes in and then continues as a ghost

is this cinema

[buoyant oar]

It's even older than that. It goes back to the Epic of Gilgamesh.

2200 BC

[frail wasp]

you can certainly try

[cyan nymph]

The Hero's Journey is explained really well in the book "Hero With A Thousand Faces"

[graceful terrace]

when your d20 are at the bottom of your tray as a dice goblin 😔

[buoyant oar]

Yes if you want to become a great writer or dungeon master please for the love of all, read Joseph Campbell.

[turbid vessel]

favored narratives swing from side to side every like 10 years or so. people like the hero's journey for a while, and then we get sick of black-and-whites and want to see some moral greys in our characters, and then we get sick of edgy antiheros and wanna see characters that are true hearted heroes
rinse and repeat

[rough basalt]

Ye Gilgameshes journey from oppressive tyrant to a wise and respected king is the origin of written hero stories.

[languid portal]

The hero’s journey but it just follows hero after hero failing and dying and every time one dies it just cuts to a new one

[valid geyser]

??? pinging server user with no messages?

I see

[dusk radish]

Who even are you

[mild lodge]

I'm exploding you

[dusk radish]

Shiiiiii-

[mild lodge]

you go boom

[snow zephyr]

And Miguel de Cervantes

[buoyant oar]

Ancient Sumerian writing shows how little humidity has actually changed socially over the last 4,000 years. With three of the more popular writings including a standard hero's journey, a Young boy who is complaining about how he doesn't feel is good because his clothes are inferior compared to his friends, and a bad review about poor quality goods.

[mild lodge]

dumb character idea: person who can cast any single spell of their choosing but once they do they fall into a coma for 24 hours

is this cinema

[rough basalt]

Or the dad complaining about his daughter walking the markets with a young boy

[minor cargo]

what a gilgachad.

[turbid vessel]

are u a gilgachad or a wolfcel

[buoyant oar]

I love that he canonically exists in the Forgotten Realms as the tyrannical King of Unther, who has art in third Edition of him just decking tiamat in one of the faces.

[jolly agate]

Too op ngl

[rough basalt]

Decking Tiamat what a guy

[hot marlin]

This I heavily disagree with. I find Joseph Campbell to have been extremely harmful to writers. I find him to be a fraud, a hack, reprehensible and misogynistic.

[cyan nymph]

They had the entire Babylonian pantheon in the original Legends and Lore

[snow zephyr]

Don Quixote is awesome for building paladins

[hot marlin]

Not to throw shade at you Kas, we agree on a lot of things normally.

[rough basalt]

Just looked it up and that is an amazing art piece.
Just a shirtless dude decking the Goddess of Dragons.

[mild lodge]

ok but what if the coma lasts for a year

❓

[severe rampart]

How many players in 2024 actually use masteries?

[frail wasp]

try it and let us know if its cool

[jolly agate]

alr ye that would be balanced

[cyan nymph]

Then they're basically just casting wish and failing the save 😜

[turbid vessel]

a lot, i reckon, it's a sick as heck system to add

[buoyant oar]

Him destroying and crushing the Dragonborn country now is completely fine for me because of that art

[turbid vessel]

i've been playing a 2024 battlemaster fighter and adding on masteries has been a treat

[reef tundra]

Always

[severe rampart]

Really? I never use it in my games

[high raft]

Anyone elses digital dice rolling really slow after the web change. Tried the normal stuff like clearing out browser history but nothing seems to work now.

[reef tundra]

I don't know how people could possibly ignore masteries they are great!

[rough basalt]

Yeah there's no reason not to use them other than forgetting

[high raft]

wrong group

[severe rampart]

When all hope seems lost, Google Dice will show the way

[uncut zenith]

I’m gonna play one starting tomorrow and I’m so excited

[little path]

if the masteries are available for your character, then you should use them, yes. Sometimes,they are not applicable i na specificsituation, but you always shoudl use them whenever possible. They cost nothing in terms of resource.

[reef tundra]

Free sneak attack every turn for a rogue; even more attacks for a fighter; a fighter who always deals a minimum of 10-20 damage per turn, barbarians knocking people about and prone; and so much more

[frail wasp]

i cant imagine a table not using masteries unless they're intentionally avoiding them

[reef tundra]

The first time I played a battle master in 5.5e I cackled with power as I inflicted so many effects on an enemy

[buoyant oar]

The game is best enjoyed when you use all of the rules as they are presented and start changing from there

[turbid vessel]

push mastery + push maneuver means pushing an enemy back 25 feet in one turn
potentially more if you add on other effects from feats and stuff

[reef tundra]

I've been running the game mostly RAI for years and I have never loved it more

[cyan nymph]

All of they know how great they are. Instant power. You can now knock back or knock prone or get additional attacks per round ...

[severe rampart]

Hm, wanted to know because I didn't want to restrict my players with whatever build they may want

[glass granite]

I once made a barbarian with charger, push mastery, martial adept for pushing maneuvre and Brutal strike to YEET enemies

[buoyant oar]

For me, rules and lore should both be the floor and not the ceiling. But if you're not using all the rules that you've got holes in your floor

[reef tundra]

I even go as far as to pick the weapon master feat as cleric and monk to get a weapon mastery as them

[rough basalt]

You can change masteries on long rest

[jolly agate]

At what level does someone gets level 9 spells?

[buoyant oar]

17 typically

[rough basalt]

17 if they don't multiclass

[reef tundra]

17,

[jolly agate]

im gettin closer

[jolly agate]

DAMMIT

[severe rampart]

Need that sweet sweet imprisonment spell Lichdom here I go

[buoyant oar]

All of the charts assume level for that specific class, not cumulative level

[jolly agate]

Using the telepathic magic saxophone was worth it ngl

[glass granite]

How many levels did you multiclass?

[jolly agate]

one level

[severe rampart]

There is a chance he is locked out of 9th level spells now lol

[rough basalt]

Then level 18

[glass granite]

Level 18 then

[buoyant oar]

Well, level 17 in your spell casting class

[jolly agate]

nice

[cyan nymph]

Full caster spell levels equal half your level plus one.

[crystal latch]

Half your level rounded up

[severe rampart]

I don't think the +1 is there

[crystal latch]

Yeah half level +1 would imply 4ths at 6

[glass granite]

Unless you’re level 20

[cyan nymph]

Yeah, round up makes more sense to say.

[severe rampart]

and 5ths at 8

[crystal latch]

True, 9 is the last number

[cyan nymph]

My bad. Half your level rounded up equals spell levels. For Full casters.

[wanton raft]

Guess who just played his first D&D game🌚

[cyan nymph]

I think paladin etc only goes up to 5th max and spell levels are one third rounded up ?

[glass granite]

Can’t be, cuz a third of 20 rounded up is 7

[cyan nymph]

Max is still set at 5th level spells no matter though

[fast latch]

The WHAT?!

[cyan nymph]

So it's just level divided by three then ?

[jolly agate]

Found it in a sassy arcane tower in High ice, very cool ngl. i can throw rocks and stuff if i play it

(and also use performance)

I've had it since about the fifth session of my current game. Finaly got to use it

A cow playing the saxophone is a joke that writes itself ngl

[cyan nymph]

Ok, paladin, ranger etc are weird now. They have 1st level spells at 1 to 4 then 2nd 5 to 8, 3rd 9 to 12 , 4th 13 to 16, the 5th 17 plus.
How do you work that out ?

[jolly agate]

I also have a bagpipe that does the same thing.

(The arcane tower was full of magical instruments but we have no bard so)

[mild lodge]

buh

[glad arch]

Are you wondering about multiclassing rules?

[jolly agate]

i think ima sell the saxophone and use the bagpipe

[mild lodge]

unironically what are monks even supposed to be in dnd, like what do you mean some guy that prays all day can actually just throw hands with dragons

???

[cyan nymph]

Yes.

[jolly agate]

Yes

[glad arch]

Paladins and ranger are half their level rounded down

[fast latch]

They don’t have to pray all day
You’re getting them mixed up with Clerics
Monks have to exercise as prayer

[glad arch]

A 2 paladin/18 sorcerer would still have lvl 9 spell slot, but because paladin level 2 you can only pick level 1 spells from the paladin list

[mild lodge]

????? that's so much dumber

wat

[jolly agate]

Nuh uh

[mild lodge]

for todays prayer: 30 pushups

[cyan nymph]

But their spells go up every 4 levels. So doesn't that make them more powerful when multiclass

[jovial shadow]

I think you mean meditate?

[atomic kayak]

dnd monks are more named for (and inspired by) eastern monks than western monks (without getting into the whole... everything about it)

[mild lodge]

ok but what do they do

[glad arch]

The phb or dmg lays out multiclassing rules quite well, theres a table for 'equivelant spell slot level' full casters take their level, half casters (paladin/ranger) half rounded down. So a 2paladin/18sorcerer has spell slots equivelant to a lvl 19 full caster

[mild lodge]

rangers, paladins etc all have a clear "thing" about them but monks are literally just a guy

[frail wasp]

what

[atomic kayak]

No offense, but have you actually read their description?

[jolly agate]

Yep, and then Kord talks to you in your mind and says:
"Nice muscles ma boy"
+2 on str

[frail wasp]

monks have way clearer theme than rangers

[jovial shadow]

Did you read the Monk description and they said they are "just a guy"?

[fast latch]

So are Fighters

[glad arch]

Yes this does make multiclassing out of paladin to a full caster (or warlock) strong. Which is why usually after level 6/7 of paladin is recommended for power builds

[hot marlin]

They train. They train heavily. They train so heavily they learn to harness another magic system, separate from the others. That's what they're about. In 2014, the word "ki" was used, now it's "focus". Regardless, it is a form of magic.

[idle oar]

Monks in D&D:

Monks use rigorous combat training and mental discipline to align themselves with the multiverse and focus their internal reservoirs of power. Different Monks conceptualize this power in various ways: as breath, energy, life force, essence, or self, for example. Whether channeled as a striking display of martial prowess or as a subtler manifestation of defense and speed, this power infuses all that a Monk does.
See https://www.dndbeyond.com/classes/2190880-monk

[mild lodge]

no I don't play the game I haven't read anything lol

[hot marlin]

Strictly speaking, a form of magic that is reached and harnessed through training, unlike other forms. This one, you cannot be born with, everyone can learn it through great training

[mild lodge]

oh I sees

[glad arch]

Arent most classes trained/aquired? I can only think of sorcerer (and not even all subclasses) that get it from birth

[mild lodge]

so they're like fighters but with wonky magic?

[cyan nymph]

Ok, hadn't realised that. It makes some of the builds I've heard about make sense now. Doubling their power. New system has a lot of weird bits

[hot marlin]

Well yes. Although, in the case of wizards, it's about knowledge and mental discipline. In the case of druidism, it's about connection with the primal. In the case of monks, it's a case of... Well, it's basically cultivation

[mild lodge]

I leavings goodbye

[jolly agate]

no, those are Paladins

Aka Nerds

[hybrid girder]

A monk in simple terms is a martial artist with the ability to control their souls power IIRC

[mild lodge]

okie

[turbid vessel]

i always view it as being so in-tune with your body and its functions that you can push it beyond what it's normally capable of, as is the case when using focus points

[meager fractal]

Paladins are alpha chads not nerds

[rugged hawk]

are tin can chumps*

[hybrid girder]

How are ya

[inner silo]

Are there any underdark species except drow in 2024?

[frail wasp]

at their simplest, they're deadlier with their fists than a common soldier is with a sword

[mild lodge]

ok but at what point does a really good boxer become a monk?

[teal cedar]

Hey, sorry to interrupt, but how should I start if I want to be a dm?

[frail wasp]

boxers never become a monk

[mild lodge]

like where is the line drawn here

[frail wasp]

boxers fight other boxers, boxers don't fight people with swords

[inner silo]

I think there's a new pugilist class which would fit a boxer better i think

[fast latch]

Artificers are better than Paladins

Sure, Paladins can heal wounds and cure diseases

But Artificers craft wonders and terrors of incredible variety

[hybrid girder]

Wait really

[swift silo]

Can you use speak with dead to ask the dead their opinion on someone they knew while they were alive

Or do they just know facts not opinions

[frail wasp]

you can ask, they aren't required to answer

[inner silo]

Also they're a chad intelligence caster instead of another regular charisma caster

[swift silo]

I mean, yeah they’re not required to answer anything if I’m not mistaken

[inner silo]

They know what they knew when they died

[fast latch]

First, go to #dm-discussion

Then, ask all the questions you want

[unkempt atlas]

.....I did i think

[frail wasp]

hmm?

[tender fossil]

Or worse their answer is so specific and out of context you have no idea what they mean

[jolly agate]

Nuh uh

[hybrid girder]

Goodie god its hard finding a game

[jolly agate]

Wym if u steal a piece of bread u lose all your powers 😭

[inner silo]

Casting speak with dead just to get hit with slang from 300 years ago

[jolly agate]

oaths are dumb

[inner silo]

Depends on the oath

[idle oar]

Oh the games are there, they're just hard to join because not everything aligns.

[tender fossil]

Fortunately for the necromancer asking the questions, the paladin speaks jive

[inner silo]

Teamwork makes the dreamwork

[hybrid girder]

Whats your DND "horror story"

[frail wasp]

two liches at the same time

[tender fossil]

Does getting your paladin yanked into Ravenloft count?

[hybrid girder]

Yes

[idle oar]

The monsters rolling more crits than average and the players rolling more poorly than average leading to an almost tragic TPK when the encounter wasn't designed as such... 😓

[tender fossil]

Fastest way to speedrun level 20

As a DM it was getting the party wiped by a single ogre because nobody could roll higher than 10

[frail wasp]

backstabbing t-rexes

[tender fossil]

Never trust any monster that can't put their own shirts on

[jolly agate]

Getting bloody slayed by 10 paladins of Tyr and a High Priest. And then getting roasted and eaten completely until only ma bones remain.

[hybrid girder]

Sorry my friends were feeling silly

[echo meteor]

a barbarian?

[frail wasp]

oh you can trust barbarians

[tender fossil]

T rex. And barbarian should be fine as long as it's not a button up

[jolly agate]

ye they mostly aint wearin shirts becuse they are too cool for that

[tender fossil]

Did have a guy play a corporate barbarian with +5 cloth Armani armor

[frail wasp]

that was a sorcerer

they got that level 5 bluff

even I fall for it sometimes

[tender fossil]

Nah, DM wanted us to play something different. I had a kercpa (squirrel) ranger from the Bronx. We were in search of the greatest treasure in the universe. Which turned out to be the recipe for beer

[inner silo]

Are there any small underdark species in 2024?

[undone rain]

Heeeey im right here yk

[tender fossil]

Not yet. Maybe sverfneblin

[inner silo]

Who are those?

[tender fossil]

Deep gnomes

[inner silo]

Ah right. I see, thanks for the help!

[jolly agate]

Sorry brav

But it's the true 😔

[undone rain]

Cant believe this, my disappointment is immesurable and my day is ruined /j

[torpid hound]

Are the odds of death saves in your favor? DC 10 and average roll is 10.5, nat 20 counts as 3 successes while nat 1 counts as 2 failures

[umbral girder]

Eh maybe

[frail wasp]

i think you answered your own question :S

[rugged hawk]

Not when my warlock's around.
Death Knell. Other creatures within 10 feet of you have Disadvantage on Death Saving Throws, and you can’t restore Hit Points to a creature with 0 Hit Points by any means.

[flint condor]

So I talked to my DM about Dao's crush and he does agree that it's the earth that grapples the target, but, he's of the mindset that an ally of the grappled enemy doesn't have to make a check to save grappled enemy, he says that they could just shove the grappled enemy and they automatically break free. Thoughts anyone ? I have never seen any rules talking about a shove or forced movement just automatically breaking a grapple

[frail wasp]

makes sense to me

[torpid hound]

That has literally zero upsides since only PC's have death saves 🤦

[rugged hawk]

No no, it has very strong upsides

Death has no claim on you. In exchange for staying its cold hand without that hand closing, you become a maw through which death feeds on the world around you.

Adamant Endurance. You have Advantage on Constitution saving throws.

Cling to Life. When you have 0 Hit Points at the start of your turn, or when you die, you can instead choose to regain a number of Hit Points equal to half your maximum. Once you use this feature, you can’t use it again. After using it, whenever you regain Hit Points through any means, you gain only half that amount. Once a Humanoid (other than you) dies within 30 feet of you, you regain the use of this feature, and you can regain Hit Points as normal.

Death Knell. Other creatures within 10 feet of you have Disadvantage on Death Saving Throws, and you can’t restore Hit Points to a creature with 0 Hit Points by any means.

Death Knell is the downside (unless you're actively trying to kill PCs, in which case it becomes yet another upside).

[inner silo]

Dwarves not being able to be small but humans being able to seems a bit weird to me

[rugged hawk]

Thats cuz dorfs got the barrelgut and wizard beards going on

[balmy lily]

With 5.5e being out for quite a bit now, and me having only really dabbled in it with my toes, is there anyone that can tell me which version is "better"?
I simply wanna see whether or not it is something to maybe move toward with my play group moving onward.

[rough basalt]

New one is mechanically better across the board.

[frail wasp]

its better in some ways, worse in others, its the kind of thing where if you like a specific part of 5.5e, feel free to pull it into your game, but don't go out of your way to do it

[rough basalt]

If you like flavor mattering more over mechanics that you want old 5e

[balmy lily]

In what ways?

If its not too difficult to explain the differences ;P

[rough basalt]

Classes are better balanced, have more options, DMs guide teaches you how to DM where as the original gave people who were already dms tools, and Monsters are better designed.

[frail wasp]

the improvements are not so great that its worth inconveniencing yourself over

[balmy lily]

Uhuh

[rough basalt]

Personally I probably would've quit by now without them.

[balmy lily]

Without who?

[rough basalt]

The revised corebooks or well 5.5e as they're calling it now

[balmy lily]

I've also seen them calling 5e legacy edition in some places

They should've just made it 6e tbh

[jovial shadow]

In D&D Beyond it's called legacy

[rough basalt]

Nah 6e would've been a disaster

[frail wasp]

its definitely not a 6e

[rough basalt]

In video game terms its more of like a Game of the Year or Remastered edition of a game that fixes the bugs and adds the important dlc.

[balmy lily]

That seems pretty neat actually

[rough basalt]

Cause the original 2014 corebooks had a lot of issues they spent half of its life trying to fix and design intents that were abandoned within the 1st two years.

[balmy lily]

True...

[vapid scroll]

I'm in a 5e party consisting of a Human Divination Wizard (me), an Orc ranger/monk multiclass, A tabaxi Inquisitive, and an Abyssal Tiefling Steel Hawk Fighter. Do you notice the irony here?

[rough basalt]

I like calling 2014 up to just before Tashas akin to an early access period.

Then Tashas was the 1.0 release then new books were the 2.0 update that fixes the 1.x issues.

[balmy lily]

Considering I do write a load of homebrew, d'ya think 5.5e is better for writing homebrew?

Or is the difference kinda negligible?

[crimson gulch]

Homebrew is homebrew, you could allways write it

[rough basalt]

It's better for understanding how to homebrew but to actually homebrew I'd say it's a little lesser than the 2014 DMG

Cause the better formatting makes it easier to read and understand.

[jovial shadow]

There are no rules for homebrew, it's basically the point the DM makes the rules

[rough basalt]

My favorite part of the 2024 dmg is the social contract section. Cause it's something we shouldn't need but necessary nowadays.

[knotty vine]

i wish there was more stuff for spell casters like instead of using wisdom for a druid you can use charisma

[frail wasp]

what for

[balmy lily]

Wait what is that?

[knotty vine]

i wanna be a chrisma based druid

[void crown]

Ok my brother's birthday is coming up and I know he likes Warhammer minis are d&d mini the same thing or anything I need to know?

[rough basalt]

It's a section that talks about the "social contract" which is rules above table. Basically not being a creep, a hole, ect.

[balmy lily]

Ask your DM if you can be one

[balmy lily]

So kinda like a rule 0 session?

[rough basalt]

It also calls out problem player behaviors

[void crown]

Like if I get him uncolored d&d minis for him to paint is that kinda the same? Sorry not really familiar with warhammer

[tidal bough]

Itd be the equivalent of someone enjoying Minecraft and getting them something from terraria, they might like it, but theyre entirely different

[rough basalt]

Like trying to argue physics, or realism

[balmy lily]

mhm

[rough basalt]

Ye DnD minis are mainly luxury things not mandatory like warhammer.

[rugged hawk]

Speaking of understanding, how would you interpret this?
Cling to Life. When you have 0 Hit Points at the start of your turn, or when you die, you can instead choose to regain a number of Hit Points equal to half your maximum.
Does that mean on any turn you start with 0 HP, or only on the next one after you've hit 0 HP? Because the former would allow you to play dead, the latter would probably just get you bonked again once you've gotten back up.

[void crown]

Wait why are Warhammer minis mandatory?

[rough basalt]

Well maybe not mandatory but they can be.
I heard some shops that run warhammer won't allow anything but official GW minis or something very close enough.

[tidal bough]

Dnd can be played tom whereas Warhammer is entirely combat and requires some form of token to represent their location

[void crown]

Ok so it is kinda part of the game?

[rough basalt]

It's like an optional thing

[void crown]

Pk so warhammer is like d&d but remove the roleplaying?

So kinda take chess and make it range almost?

[rough basalt]

Yeah regular Warhammer there's no real "roleplay" other than maybe making in character quips when you kill an enemy unit or something.

[tidal bough]

Technically as written so long as you have a turn you could, however its entirely possible the dm rules that after a set amount of time being dead you dont get a turn

[hot marlin]

Realism is another word with so many different meanings that we're better off dropping it all together, unless you define it while using it.

[void crown]

Ok so warhammer is kinda on a very basic scale chest but 100 times more complicated?

[hot marlin]

That's a fair way to put it, yeah.

[placid glade]

why have they removed the party wizard? D: i miss disco wizard

[rugged hawk]

As the DM, I have no issue with the timescale as long as it's theoretically allowed.

[void crown]

And each mini has like different powers?

Or something?

[rough basalt]

Each unit has different capabilities.

[mighty brook]

No Wizard!?

[void crown]

Ok thank you for all your help. Actually sounds interesting

[rough basalt]

Warhammer is also a lot more expensive.

[hot marlin]

Each mini represents a unit. Each unit has its own rules, its own wounds, its own weapons, its own abilities.

[placid glade]

its tragic D: they removed the disco wizard

[hot marlin]

It is often joked that the only Warhammer fan who has enough money to actually play the game is Henry Cavill.

[void crown]

Ok now really stupid question maybe can I 3d print warforge minis?

[rugged hawk]

Now for the real question: assuming you've managed to somehow lose some or most of your body, how would this impact Clinging to Life? Like say, you lost some organs, or your head.

[placid glade]

bring back party time!

[rough basalt]

In terms of expensiveness for tabletop games it's
Warhammer (starting army is usually 200 to 400 USD I believe)
DnD (if you want more character options and other things)

[void crown]

Can I like download a stl file for warhammer units?

[placid glade]

web page redesign lost so much of its character. its sooo boring now...

[void crown]

If I have a 3d printer

[rough basalt]

Maybe. Idk.

[void crown]

Ok so for a person birthday who already has an army what would yoj guys suggest for warhammer

[rugged hawk]

Soooo... I assume D&D has rules for regeneration, raise dead, etc. What're the limits to coming back if the body is damaged or gone?

[hot marlin]

Different for every spell.

[jolly agate]

Got a familiar yipieeee

[hot marlin]

For True Resurrection? No limit. Just say the name, even if the body was utterly annihilated at an elementary particle level.

Well you still need the dead creature so... Any part of the body will suffice.

[rough basalt]

I think True Resurrection has the highest time limit at like 100 years or something

[hot marlin]

Maybe some toenail clipping?

[rugged hawk]

I know that, but I'm not sure Cling to Life is quite that capable

Cling to Life. When you have 0 Hit Points at the start of your turn, or when you die, you can instead choose to regain a number of Hit Points equal to half your maximum.

[hot marlin]

200 years as a time limit actually.

[hot marlin]

Well it appears to do.. Exactly that. If it does not say the limbs regenerate, they do not.

[worn lagoon]

I hope it's a crow

[hot marlin]

You should switch your familiar to the situation anyways

[worn lagoon]

Crows are peak

[jolly agate]

You guessed right idk how ngl

Named him Grimbeak

[rugged hawk]

Hmmm. So if you didn't have a body anymore, you'd .... what, exactly? Come back as some sorta spirit? Stay dead?

[jolly agate]

Lil baby crow

[worn lagoon]

You have the correct amount of edginess in your aura

[jovial shadow]

True Resurrection is indeed as powerful as wish. Imagine your body being reduced to atoms, but this spell brings you back as if it never happened. Just by speaking your name.

[hot marlin]

Depends on the situation. What did you die from?

[jolly agate]

My DM is focused on transforming ma cow into an Edgelord

[rugged hawk]

I'm just theorizing, because details are how you stay dead. Let's say you got disintegrated. How would it work?

[hot marlin]

With the disintegrate spell?

[jolly agate]

it's a white crow tho

(I didn't know they came in that color)

[hot marlin]

Since the spell disintegrates you when you die, I would rule that Cling to Life prevents your corpse from being disintegrated.

[rugged hawk]

Oh, that's an interesting interpretation.

[hot marlin]

The spell was cast. You died. Cling to Life happens between the "you die" part and the "your corpse is disintegrated" part. That is how I would rule it

[rugged hawk]

Though I thought the spell specifically kills you by disintegration?

[hot marlin]

Good question. Once again, we must remember that our first reflex must be to check the spell. What does the spell actually say?

[rugged hawk]

I don't know since I haven't looked at since 3.5e

[hot marlin]

" If this damage reduces it to 0 Hit Points, it and everything nonmagical it is wearing and carrying are disintegrated into gray dust"

Hmm... You may be right. It may be that disintegrate bypasses Cling to Life due to its wording

Oh yeah "The target can be revived only by a True Resurrection or a Wish spell." Specific beating general, disintegrate bypasses it.

[rugged hawk]

Your wording suggests the opposite, that Disintegrate is simply a DAMAGE spell with an additional effect.

[hot marlin]

So yeah, with Disintegrate, Cling to Life is useless

[jovial shadow]

True Ressurection has only been said twice lol

[rugged hawk]

Hmmm. Except that 0 HP isn't dead, ergo doesn't need reviving.

[hot marlin]

But disintegrated into gray dust is dead.

[rugged hawk]

It would be, if Cling to Life - oh wait, yeah, it only triggers on your turn

[hot marlin]

Yes.

So yeah, I'm sorry to say, this will not protect you against disintegrate

[rugged hawk]

See, this is why I wanted clarification on how Cling to Life could be circumvented.

So by that logic, I guess being beheaded would also keep you dead.

[hot marlin]

That too, yes. Well, Cling to Life would resurrect you. Only for you to immediately die again as your head is separated from your torso.

[rugged hawk]

Hmmm. That makes sense, yes.... but... what if you were some type of corporeal undead?

[hot marlin]

That would depend on circumstances and DM ruling

[rugged hawk]

Cause I could see this becoming a Headless Horseman thing

Or Floating Skull moment

And outside of vampires, most corporeal undead don't need most of their 'vital' organs.

That's the whole reason they're crit immune to begin with, after all

[hot marlin]

You are thinking in terms of 3.5 again.

[knotty vine]

theres creatures that are crit immune?

[hot marlin]

There is no crit immunity anymore.

[rugged hawk]

Oh.

[knotty vine]

i mean there is the armor

[hot marlin]

Outside of that armor, yes. Thank you

[woven flint]

Exploring Eberron has a feat for warforged called Juggernaut and it makes them immune to crits
(I know it's technically third party)

[knotty vine]

thats 3rd party

[woven flint]

I already was making that disclaimer :p

[knotty vine]

curse of too slow

[crimson gulch]

Spore druids are crit immune

At a high enough level.

[worn lagoon]

Missed oppurtunity to stack multiple familiars from party members to make a tower of cow dog cat rooster

[jolly agate]

Nah im already a cow

[knotty vine]

huh

[jolly agate]

a cow and a crow it's peak enough

[knotty vine]

theres a few things in dnd that give you crit immuntity

[fast latch]

Hi guys

[hot marlin]

Those things are very seldom found in NPCs however.

[worn lagoon]

You don't know the fairytale?

[fast latch]

What are we talking about?

[jolly agate]

Nah, My grandfather only told me stories about knights and redcaps and stuff

[worn lagoon]

Town musicians of Bremen

[jolly agate]

mostly folklore stories, yk

[woven flint]

I'd give a Terrasque crit immunity >:]

[fast latch]

Adamantium armor

[hot marlin]

Now nothing prevents you from putting an adamantium armor on something. Like a greatwyrm for example

Dragons can and should use the magic items in their hoard

[stoic haven]

pop poll, How many of yall use custom lineage, and do you use it moreso for the feat or for the customized race that might not be fully official with its own benefits

[woven flint]

Or having adamantium reinforced Constructs

[knotty vine]

the reading devil strikes agan

[fast latch]

I’ve only ever seen one Custom Lineage character played and that’s a guy in my games who plays a blue Dwarf with moose antlers

[jolly agate]

Say what now?

[hot marlin]

I've never really liked spellcasting dragons, it interrupts the flow of their fight, defined by breath weapon, movement and attacks. But if you were to remake dragons so their spells were weaved within their breath weapon, I think there may be something there

[limber trail]

(The DnD items are Adamantine, Adamantium specifically refers to the marvel metal)

[unkempt atlas]

Guys i found a solution to my low health crisis

[rugged hawk]

...Yes, but you'll probably understand once you see her figure. Also wanted Cult of the Dragon Initiate. https://i.imgur.com/wFVyXq2.png

[knotty vine]

i mean Niv-mizzet is a pretty cool spel casting dragon

[unkempt atlas]

My wonderful dm let me sacrifice some of my strength to gain constitution

[rugged hawk]

That's called point buy

[limber trail]

I'm curious, what class were you playing and what are the strength/con scores before and after?

[knotty vine]

dont make con your dump stat ever

[unkempt atlas]

I am an Orc Monk, my con was 11 with a 0 mod , and my strength was 16 with a +3 mod

[limber trail]

ah

[knotty vine]

why are you using str as a monk?

[unkempt atlas]

I was lvl 6 with 33 health

[unkempt atlas]

This is my first campaign, I thought strength = more damage as an unarmed fighter

[limber trail]

So as a monk, you actually use your Dex for your unarmed strikes

[knotty vine]

im gonna beat your dm

[limber trail]

Monks want their Dex really high, and their Wis and Con as the next highest. Strength, Intelligence, and Charisma aren't very important beyond flavour and saving throws

[unkempt atlas]

Yall shouldve been here last night when I fought my first boss

[knotty vine]

did you not read about your class?

[unkempt atlas]

I read most of it, didn't understand most, BUT I'm really going through it now and researching

My dex is 17 with a +3

[limber trail]

Yeah you don't need strength

What's your wisdom like?

[knotty vine]

us dnd players are never beating the "We cant read allegations"

[unkempt atlas]

Wait no, my wisdom is 17 with +3, my dexterity is 19 +4

[limber trail]

Okay yeah ask your DM if you can swap your strength and con scores

just do a complete swap of them, you don't need strength at all and the con will give you 18 more hitpoints

[unkempt atlas]

Really? So if I lower my strength, it won't mess with my attacks?

[limber trail]

Nope

As a monk your attacks are based on your Dex. Strength has no bearing on your build at all

[rugged hawk]

Since when is Str not part of punching damage?

[limber trail]

(Monk)

[unkempt atlas]

Oooh, then whats the point of strength then😭

[knotty pasture]

Shoving and grappling in the context of Monk

[unkempt atlas]

Ooooh

[limber trail]

Other classes use strength for their weapon attacks and unarmed strikes

[knotty pasture]

Str is a luxury on Monk but you don't need it

[unkempt atlas]

What about my unarmed strike? That takes dexterity?

[limber trail]

Yes

[unkempt atlas]

(I apologize for my slowness in this😭)

[limber trail]

As a monk it does, normally for other classes it does use str but your Martial Arts feature lets you use Dex isntead of Str

[knotty pasture]

You should probably read up Monk's features again, Monk weapons and unarmed strikes work off Dex if it is higher

[unkempt atlas]

I dont use any weapons as a monk, just unarmed strikes and fury of blows, usually i land about 32 damage on average and if im lucky I can do well over 40

[limber trail]

Are you using 2024 or 2014 rules, do you know?

[knotty pasture]

Until your unarmed strikes start scaling a lot I would stick to using a weapon still

[fast latch]

Yeah he’s pretty ridiculous

[knotty pasture]

Spears or quarterstaves are nice

[unkempt atlas]

I use 3d8 for my unarmed strikes

[limber trail]

they're what

[severe rampart]

Holy-

[fast latch]

WHAT

How?!

[jolly agate]

Should i sell the Saxophone or the Bagpipe of Telekinesis?

[limber trail]

I assume a magic item is at play here

[unkempt atlas]

Its because of an item I got that gives me +2d8 on attack for unarmed strike

[severe rampart]

Unarmed fighting style, maybe a magic item too

[fast latch]

Sell the Bagpipes

They’re harder to play and get good at

[unkempt atlas]

And for my action I can do 2 unarmed strikes, so technically I can do 6 hits in one turn

[jolly agate]

Ye but cow playing the bagpipes is kinda more silly than a cow playing the Saxophone

[limber trail]

6? It should be four as a level 6 monk

[knotty pasture]

Yeah forget about using a weapon then, jeez that's more damage than any martial class out there per one hit

[unkempt atlas]

Hold on you guys need to hear about this magical item my dm gave me

[jolly agate]

what item

[limber trail]

Yeah there's definitely a lot of magic items going on here making you very strong

[jolly agate]

Is it more or less ridiculous than the Bagpipe of Telekinesis?

[unkempt atlas]

The ones I got from the boss fight last night

They're called chains of the warden:
They get me +2d8 to my unarmed strikes, turn all my attacks to magic attacks and ignores all resistances, i can use a bonus action to chain up a target if they are restrained or knocked down and they must use a strength saving throw of 16 to break free, while in this state they cannot move or escape, and any damage i do to them is immediately siphoned back to me, plus i get +5 range in my attacks, and they count as an unarmed weapon

[knotty pasture]

Sounds like a legendary grade magic item

[limber trail]

(I will add, the unarmed fighting style and monk's martial arts both replace base unarmed strike damage, they don't add onto it. So, it wouldn't give a bonus. same with tavern brawler)

[unkempt atlas]

The boss we fought had it, and it messed me up so bad, I almost died

[limber trail]

Honestly bonus damage aside it's not absolutely absurd

[knotty pasture]

I'd pick this over a +3 weapon at least

[limber trail]

Bits of it you already have as a monk, and the rest is fine for a magic item. It's that 2d8 that's super strong

[unkempt atlas]

Our party almost didn't make it, i got knocked out in the second round, and then had to wait till it ended to do anything

[jolly agate]

and i still casting stuff whit ma horns 😔

Damn that is peak ngl

[unkempt atlas]

I needed it so bad with how bad the DM targets me

[undone rain]

I mightve accidentally made minthara basically in dnd

Drow vengeance paladin

[jolly agate]

Ima start yappin to ma dm abt givin me a weapon

[unkempt atlas]

Do it

[jolly agate]

i don't care if i don't have hands. I have magic and a mouth

[unkempt atlas]

Mage hand?

[limber trail]

So a fun fact for you that you might not know: Now that you're a level 6 monk, your unarmed strikes deal force damage, which mean that they already count as magical and ignore (most) resistances.

[unkempt atlas]

My rogue partner has that ability

[jolly agate]

Damn i don't have that spell