dnd-discussion

[raw ocean]

You get what im saying azerick

[rough basalt]

Too powerful for even I as the DM to wield

[umbral girder]

Frieza we know it’s you /jk

[rough basalt]

Power Word: DM is something that shouldn't be used lightly

[raw ocean]

I wonder if any DM was spiteful enough to make a D&D monster with like 10 reactions and 20 uses of silvery barbs

[scenic zinc]

sb is boring

[raw ocean]

Always funny whenever they sb and the monster rolls higher than before

[scenic zinc]

And nowhere near as problematic as people complain about

[stoic obsidian]

I wonder how terrifying would a dragon obsession amassing a hoard of valued be

Like imagine a dragon that amass people

[rough basalt]

Silvery Barbsing into a crit or another crit

[scenic zinc]

That's a blue dragon

They commonly are known to rule over people

[umbral girder]

Silver Dragon moment

[scenic zinc]

And count those people as belonging to them

[rough basalt]

I imagine if Dragons had modern technology they'd play RTS games against Silver Dragons

[raw ocean]

Dragon that amasses dice and breaks the 4th wall so the party can only use D4's since the dragon doesn't like them [he stepped on too many]

[lean wigeon]

yakuza

[stoic obsidian]

I bet they have a lot of bards in that pile

[scenic zinc]

Meh. I'm personally not into 4th wall breaks

[stoic obsidian]

Actually is their a dragon that amass multiple kinds of things

Not just one

[umbral girder]

Silver Dragons are less of a “I am your master!” And more of a ”these are my babies” like a crazy cat person

[raw ocean]

The only "4th wall break" that's not even really a 4th wall is having an NPC in my campaign play the D&D equivalent of our world

[umbral girder]

Most of them

Which official DnD characters would most likely play D&D?

[scenic zinc]

Volo

[stoic obsidian]

Tiamat

[umbral girder]

I can see Volo being the worse or incredible at D&D

Elminster probably would go “yeah sure” if asked

[scenic zinc]

He'd be so bad he'd be good.

[umbral girder]

I don’t think Drizzt would

“Why simulate adventure when I can just adventure?”

[blissful dragon]

isnt elmister the only char in the old canon that was aware of earth and ed greenwood

[scenic zinc]

Elminster likely has canonically played dnd. After all, he's canonically been to actual earth.

[umbral girder]

Acererak also knows

[blissful dragon]

ok

[umbral girder]

Alustriel seems like she’d join a one shot but isn’t committed to a campaign

[scenic zinc]

-# hot take, drizzt is a boring character

[raw ocean]

I wonder how PC's would react if they learned that players were controlling them?

[umbral girder]

Nah I like Drizzt. Top 3 easy

[lean wigeon]

elminster

[scenic zinc]

I mean, gods are readily apparent in those worlds. So probably entirely unsurprised.

[raw ocean]

I mean like, imagine your entire life and almost every decision at some point being entirely not yours?

[scenic zinc]

See my previous comment.

[raw ocean]

Not into 4th wall breaks or drizzt being boring?

[umbral girder]

Drizzt “he is responsible for my worst of suffering but I can also thank him for the greatest of joins and pleasures in my life. I am glad for knowing my ideals and purpose were made to be just”

Mordenkainen “excuses you!?!?”

Acererak: “Nothing new to me. I don’t even know if I’m Acererak or an fake controlled by a bigger Acererak”

Vecna: “My creator is gone so I have no leash. None shall have mastery over me.”

[scenic zinc]

No... about how gods are readily apparent. In such a world, could you truly be surprised if you discovered your choices were never your own?

[umbral girder]

Elminster: “Yeah and he got me some coke and Doritos”

[raw ocean]

Well most of the time gods aren't interested in mere mortals, that's like learning that john wick is planning to kill you for sport suddenly

It's just a reality that "It's going to be me?"

[umbral girder]

Tiamat: “My existence has predate the iteration you know for millennia.”

[raw ocean]

Exactly, imagine learning suddenly that you are literally tiamat, and that you aren't even real

[scenic zinc]

They aren't interested as far as people know of. What they know and what's true can easily be different.

[umbral girder]

Tasha: “well that child is very adorable. I’ll give her a pass.”

[raw ocean]

Wouldn't the PC's and DM be beyond the gods and even the outer realms?

[umbral girder]

I’m running out of D&D characters reacting to their Players/creators

[raw ocean]

DM can quite literally just erase mystra from existence

[umbral girder]

Melf “wait my name is just Male Elf?”

[scenic zinc]

It's turtles all the way down

[raw ocean]

Oh, I see the reference

Perhaps it's just an undeniable truth where there is no point in fighting against it

A nuke could hit my city right now and there would be nothing I can do but look

Im gonna go play balatro

[umbral girder]

Jarlaxle “so my reins have been going in and out of my creators hands? Sounds to me like I have more freedom and control than the others around me.”

[jovial shadow]

rjo88hethe

[umbral girder]

Honestly some of the guys in Menzobarrenzan likely would not care and just think “oh hey there is another god above the current one ruling us.”

[scenic zinc]

Which is what I think most dnd characters would think

[marble lion]

I make my characters to be as they are

All their choices are the choices they make, if real

[red steppe]

DM is literally the Luminous Being

[marble lion]

They do as they are

This would only be a problem for a character whose player does nonsense stuff the char wouldnt do

[raw ocean]

Gibligoo the goblin learning that his entire purpose is just to be a joke for the ones above:

[Insert the butter robot from rick and morty as a reference]

[marble lion]

Yes that would be sad

[raw ocean]

Oh but I wonder how the characters who had their entire family, clan, loved ones die in their backstory would feel

"I would of preferred to be a joke over dealing with that pain, were they even real?"

"I don't remember their faces!"

[umbral girder]

“Yeah I know that. My boss is in the other room”

[raw ocean]

It would be pretty odd if D&D characters were like fully sentient and had to go along with player antics

I have him challenge the dragon to a 1v1 "Woah what?"

"I did NOT agree to this"

[umbral girder]

This is just Kris from Deltarune

[red steppe]

Do our irl selves have to roll for initiative once our characters start attacking us

[raw ocean]

What's deltarune

[umbral girder]

Game that’s kinda alternate universe of Undertale (same dev)

[raw ocean]

What's undertale?

[umbral girder]

Broke the Steam servers when an update came out last season

[red steppe]

When you tale your under

[umbral girder]

Literally the protagonist has the same thing going on

[blissful dragon]

i mean thats just being an office worker in a massive corperation

[umbral girder]

The PC vs the Player narrative

[jovial shadow]

I like to think gods are definitely thinking about mortals. Most of which is plotting against other gods or the worshippers of other gods, selecting mortals to accomplish some tasks they are too busy for, challenging mortal heroes by monitoring some quest, conducting wars behind the scenes, blessing certain rulers/cursing others etc. The greater gods (Skygods/rulers) are less likely to be so involved, as their focus is on cosmic events

[lyric pewter]

I'm so excited because I'm getting a dnd starter for Christmas!!!!

I'm currently using a 6 sided dice, a stuffed toy as a player and a 5e character template for it and I'm using a little map I made

[hollow notch]

could a mmo like raid work in dnd with ads and side objectives for a damage faze

[still plover]

Yup.

It's the bookkeeping that's a bother, though.

[echo agate]

Can you use the default Lvl 1 Ability score increase, so both +2 and +1 on a singular stat, or 2 separate?

[runic heron]

The other day I was running a game where a gang war broke out and my player laughed when he learned that one of his men brought a flintlock and he had no idea until halfway through the battle

[still plover]

It's got to be on different abilities.

[echo agate]

a friend is dying on the hill that it can be used on both stats, and He has discussed this with multiple dms who said the same, and dndbeyond allows it,

IT LITERALLY SAYS IN THE TEXT

[still plover]

Yup. "Increase one by 2 and another one by 1, or increase all three by 1."
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/character-origins#PartsofaBackground

[echo agate]

my headache is not helping idiocy Of literally refusing to READ STANDARD RULESETTING

THERES A SINGLE SENTENCE WHICH LITERALLY SAYS HTIS

[glass granite]

Colm. Chill in the all caps

[still plover]

Pass them the link, ask them to read it out loud.

[marble lion]

that is the part i agree with yeah

while i dont think there is any issue with making a personality, there is one in choosing their past

[echo agate]

i have sent a picture of the text, and a bright arrow POINTING TO IT,

can i find it in any of the rulebooks? just to really CEMENT it in

[raw ocean]

"Lmao, I thought giving you cancer would be good for story progression"

[echo agate]

Oh you sent that link, ill use that thank you

[raw ocean]

"My bad, tee hee"

[marble lion]

i feel that way about any supposedly all powerful entity that creates or controls a world and its people ahem

[raw ocean]

If I was a god I would just ragebait people by showing them all of their alternate realities

"Remember that one time you diden't pick up that dirty lotto ticket, that was actually a million dollars!"

"Your life could of been set!"

Then send them off to heaven or something

[shy stirrup]

I'm sure you would have many devoted adherents

[marble lion]

yup

i personally would be quite unhappy with you though

[echo agate]

is this found in the 2014 book as well anywhere? just really want to not leave him anywhere to go with "old rules" or that

[raw ocean]

Give them the life stats and which route they went down

[timid current]

Hey quick question, is your player building an old changeling

[echo agate]

he is not no

[raw ocean]

What?

[timid current]

Then they are incorrect

[echo agate]

misping my bad

[raw ocean]

If you guys could become one race from D&D, what would you pick? [God/Diety/Anything that just makes you unkillable does not count as an obtainable race]

[scenic zinc]

A light jog

[echo agate]

probably changeling, or If spelljammer, Something as astral elves for funny TP and needing 4 hours of rest

[marble lion]

highelf

[raw ocean]

The nefarious wish spell monkey paw:

[marble lion]

where is the absolute gigachad saying human

[coarse ravine]

Goliath

Become whim Hoff.

[echo agate]

just curious, but is this stated in the 2014 rulebook as well? just trying to find both to not leave either as an option

[scenic zinc]

Pretty sure it's a Tasha's thing

[echo agate]

ah fair enough, and then got adopted into 2024 rulebooks later on when they released

[scenic zinc]

'14 defaulted to it being dictated by your species

[raw ocean]

I would go with changeling so I could gas light people in a good way

turn into 15 different people and compliment someone's hat 15 times

[timid current]

"In a good way"

[raw ocean]

"This may sound bad at first" type statement

[marble lion]

thats pretty wholesome of you

[raw ocean]

Then I would steal from walmart for the rest of my life

[marble lion]

as long as you dont do this and ruin someones day because the hat is actually absolutely terrible and they should absolutely not be wearing it

but only if youre aware of that

if you just like it i think this is fine 100%

[raw ocean]

No hat can be that bad

wait actually, yeah probably some hats should not be worn like ever

[marble lion]

my point is that if the compliment is genuine, this is wholesome

[timid current]

There are dudes who wear fedora intentionally

[marble lion]

if its tricking them into wearing something you think looks bad, its not wholesome

[timid current]

It isn't about the hat most of the time, it is the hat/wearer combo

[marble lion]

fedoras look absolutely amazing but with modern fashion etc you really need to know what youre doing

[raw ocean]

Greasy white shirt + sweat pants + fedora combo is devious

[marble lion]

most hats can look good but depending on the person and other clothing/posture/behaviour sometimes are completely horrid

[sleek cloud]

I seem to have stumbled into an an unexpected topic today lol

[raw ocean]

What race would you pick if you could become it IRL?

I personally picked changeling to steal from large store chains and do good deeds

[sleek cloud]

Hmmmm

[marble lion]

i feel like changeling is kind of cheating to be honest

pick one that is actually what it is too for fun

[raw ocean]

Aasimar so I could still look human and be able to fly every now and then

[marble lion]

thats a cool one

[raw ocean]

[Let's be honest, most D&D races are getting shot on sight IRL]

[marble lion]

no

at least not in countries that have been demilitarised

[raw ocean]

Old man seeing some red creature with horns walking through the woods:

[vast pelican]

I mean, changeling is pretty cool, but I'd probably want to straight up maximize my lifespan, so elf.

[marble lion]

my elven brother lets go

[raw ocean]

Elf is probably the most bad option in my opinion, other than warforged

[manic arrow]

I mean.. Elfs are just humans but beautiful+ longer lifespan so

[marble lion]

and magic if you pick highelf or darkelf

pretty great

[raw ocean]

Being hot + magic + long lifespan at the cost of watching your loved ones slowly get old and die

I don't want to be any long living race 😭

[marble lion]

you wanna know why i hate that point?

[manic arrow]

Nearly no cons on being an elf besides huge ears (and if you see the longlife as a con then sure)

[manic arrow]

Generally tho I wouldn't care cuz I'd explore

[marble lion]

humans also watch each other wither and suffer and die all the time. it just adds more to the list. i think being longlived would be great

[sleek cloud]

I’m torn between dwarf, air Genasi, and satyr

[hot reef]

Warforged don’t age

[marble lion]

satyr? youre a monster

[vast pelican]

I'm going to get to watch plenty of my loved ones get old and die as a human. May as well at least get to do more living.

[raw ocean]

True, I would probably take it since im the youngest in my like close family [mom, dad, and siblings] so im going to have to deal with that at some point

[marble lion]

exactly right?

[raw ocean]

Sad part would be trying to find love, and having to watch all of your kids get old too 😔

Oh wait, they would be half elf

nvm

[vast pelican]

Still, you get two centuries with them at best

[manic arrow]

Elfs have no cons

[manic arrow]

Thats plenty ngl

[raw ocean]

The nefarious ear gripper constantly hunting them:

[marble lion]

youd even resist sleepy and charms

take that reddit witches

[manic arrow]

You get to be beautiful and have a much longer lifespan in exchange of having huge ears

[marble lion]

i like the ears but the beautiful might be a problem for people who want to be really tough and rough you know?

[hot reef]

You wouldn’t get any spells from races, as they’re based off of the weave which doesn’t exist irl

[vast pelican]

Being well rested with less sleep certainly sounds nice.

[raw ocean]

Wait I found the one downside to being an elf, you can't wear helmets and hoodies unless you modify them

[marble lion]

boring answer ill ignore that

[manic arrow]

And elf ears don't make you look uglier too yk

[marble lion]

a lot of people find elf ears quite nice

[sullen ingot]

If I had say... 197 dice set aside for one character (I like my damage dice color-coded and everything to match), how would you recommend storing this many dice in a way that makes it easy to find the ones I need at any given time? Hypothetically of course(It isn't hypothetical)

[vast pelican]

Also, racial features only apply to adventurers. Not every single tiefling peasant can cast deadly elemental magic.

[marble lion]

have you never worn stuff that squeezed your ears? it exists. you could make do

[sleek cloud]

OH I KNOW

[raw ocean]

Would headphones even work that well?

[scenic zinc]

By that same logic you couldn't ever be an elf because they're not real.

[sleek cloud]

Eladrin.

[raw ocean]

They would always be like, slightly lifted

[scenic zinc]

That's such a silly point to bring up.

[manic arrow]

Just wear earbuds

[marble lion]

i see we have arrived at the stage of these scenarios where rule lawyers point out details that just make it less fun

[raw ocean]

Erm what if I need to hit some sick elf gamer clips after training on rainbow six siege for 30 years?

[sullen ingot]

I don't see why not, they do the same thing with the ear canal that human ears would, or we could make earbuds that fit elf ears

[vast pelican]

Well, if we get to select adventurer levels as well: elf wizard, so I can make clones and live forever.

[raw ocean]

"I just cursed his entire family using magic, secure the point"

[hot reef]

It’s more true for the int based spells as those imply they’re taught and not actually an innate part of the species
But there’s still a difference between biological abilities and magical

[raw ocean]

Oh my god suggestion would be such a busted spell online

[scenic zinc]

Living forever sounds like a curse.

[manic arrow]

Elf does what elf wants

[scenic zinc]

How in the world do you come to the conclusion they're only taught instead of potentially discovered? An intellectual individual could discover that magic rather than having to learn it from someone.

[vast pelican]

Sounds rad. I'd go for lichdom except it's objectively a bad trade when you can just shave off a thin strip of flesh and keep a test tube backup at all times.

If liches weren't evil undead they wouldn't have to worry so much about people trying to break their soul jar.

[scenic zinc]

I've said it before and I'll say it again - the ability to die is a wonderful gift. It gives a sense of immediacy.

[marble lion]

i dont think we will ever know thats true or false

[scenic zinc]

There is an end, so enjoy what you have now.

That's why I wouldn't have any of my characters pursue undeath.

[hot reef]

Based on how languages and proficiencies from races are framed in 2014, some racial features can be explained as being taught. You could also go that route, there’s no wrong answer.

[vast pelican]

Personally, I think that's entirely a fabrication we've come up with to feel less bad about dying. But that's an entirely different conversation not suited for this channel.

[marble lion]

"i will have you starve in 3 days but feed you until then. enjoy it while you can" sounds like a good thing to you?

just trying to say its not that simple

[scenic zinc]

Yes, actually.

[marble lion]

well then come right in step into my basement

ill let you out if you change your mind at the end though because im not a rotten evil monster

[scenic zinc]

Good for those 3 days at least.

[hot reef]

I’d assume our brains would be adjusted to find our new bodies suitable as well, so the race doesn’t give us body dysphoria

[vast pelican]

Racial features are a mixed bag of innate characteristics universal to the race, cultural elements reasonably associated with it, and special abilities an adventurer of that race is likely to have learned or been blessed with.

[marble lion]

agreed on both points

[coarse ravine]

Yes correct I mean theirs one kid I read about. He knew how to read aincient hyrogliphics, aincient Hebrew and old English by the age of 6. As well as all the modern languages. Intellectual creatures have angst to learn.

[hot reef]

If we did live seven times longer naturally, our brains would be able to handle living seven times longer

(Maybe not warforged…)

[coarse ravine]

Thats why elves ears are long

Its apart of their brain.

Long life (im jk)

[vast pelican]

I presume nearly all dwarves have darkvision from birth, but it seems kinda silly to think that an elf is just born with proficiency in survival, and humans absolutely aren't inherently blessed with....whatever second origin their player picks up.

[vast pelican]

They are radio receivers and they are fragile, please be mindful.

[thorn zinc]

What in your opinion is the best DnD game of all time?

[marble lion]

dnd

[scenic zinc]

Mine.

[marble lion]

youll have to rephrase that one i think

[scenic zinc]

Both those I play and those I dm.

[marble lion]

do you mean module, edition, specifically a group like critrole?

[raw ocean]

That one random game where it had the perfect session 1 then immediatly ended

[scenic zinc]

All in all, that's 8 campaigns

[thorn zinc]

I am going on a 3day chrimstas break got nothing to do but game..... What would be the best console DnD game in your opinion?

[marble lion]

baldurs gate 3 by far

[vast pelican]

I presume BG3, I've never owned a console.

[marble lion]

most dnd games are either very old or very bad or both. the baldurs gate series is renowned in general though i couldnt play the older titles for their age

i also dont think most dnd games are on console

[scenic zinc]

Divinity: Original Sin 2 is a close second, but only because it's not based on dnd and you asked for dnd.

[jovial shadow]

I think Basic D&D was the best, and it came out six months before AD&D. Basic's rules were simple and straight forward, making it easier for both DM's and players to learn and play contemporaneously.

[thorn zinc]

So do you suggest the PS5 version with controller or the PC version with mouse and keyboard?

[marble lion]

yeah its comparable but not dnd

whatever runs better i suppose
i always opt for PC

i prefer having the ability to handle my socials while playing and use mods

not to mention bg3 has a lot of ui so i think having a mouse is advantageous but it should be fine with controller too

[thorn zinc]

Alright imma start with BG3 then

[thorn zinc]

How long is the story line? Is the story line worth it or shall I jump into multiplayer since I know the mechanics of Dnd?

[marble lion]

thanks for reminding me of my one liked fairytail character

[scenic zinc]

Playing on the PC is much better, in my opinion

[marble lion]

bg3 solo seems a lot better while multiplayer is more about goofing around with friends i think

[thorn zinc]

Haha .... Mystogan.. I changed it to MystGUN XD

[scenic zinc]

Play the story.

[marble lion]

unless you find someone you really want to share this entire journey with intensely, its solo for sure

[vast pelican]

BG3 easily has 50 hours in one full playthrough, and if you dig through everything it can go past 100.

[marble lion]

it also works slightly differently from dnd in some regards so dont assume you know everything

[thorn zinc]

Yeah.... If I had that someone I would be spending my Christmas with her XD

[marble lion]

it could be a friend to be honest, not just partners

but i realise i put that a little bit thick

[thorn zinc]

50hrs sounds like 4 days of work.... 🫡

[thorn zinc]

Yeah.... I'll try solo for now

[scenic zinc]

I suggest not trying to speedrun it

[thorn zinc]

Like taking it slow a step at a time absorbing all the info and knowledge or slow to savour it?

[vast pelican]

Yeah, there's getting so caught up that you spend all day on it, and then there's cramming for the sake of getting it over with. One of those is fun and the other certainly doesn't sound like fun.

[scenic zinc]

Either one. But also because if you rush you'll miss a lot.

[shy stirrup]

The speedrun record is 4 minutes, 6 seconds with glitches
35 minutes without

[lyric pewter]

What's the most unlucky thing that's happened to you in dnd

[thorn zinc]

Hmm... Then I'll just take it slow and play over the weekends

[thorn zinc]

Fire-ball

[vast pelican]

I can't think of anything catastrophic that was based on luck...

[scenic zinc]

@fossil hollow has killed 2 characters of mine before we hit level 5 in a campaign he's running lol

[lyric pewter]

I bit a violent fungus (I think you know what happened after that)

[outer oyster]

Can someone tell me how DND works?

[lyric pewter]

Go to the channel called #learn-to-play

[scenic zinc]

It doesn't

It spends all day on the couch

[crimson gulch]

Yeah I'm helping him pump those numbers

[glass granite]

That’s mildly deadly

This the Waterdeep one?

[lyric pewter]

I wish I could

[lucid flax]

How do I give my character a Homebrew spell on D&D Beyond (website or app just specify which)? I’m trying to give my character a certain Homebrew spell and my dm allows it, but idk how.

[muted badger]

Is there anywhere I can get the players handbook for cheap

Preferably 2024 but 2014 is fine

[reef tundra]

My aunt got mine online

Second hand books go for cheaper

A shop near where I live sell them for about £20 each so there might be a few local bookshops near you that sell it for cheap too

[sleek cloud]

Amity amity,tsk tsk. Gave up on vecna already huh

[marble lion]

thats okay, he is eternal

[empty thicket]

15 times Nat20 from the DM

more than 1million chances of that happening, we were victims of a miracle. We call it the "miracle incident"

None died but we got everyone giga low, if there was another encounter after that fight, we would died.

[glass granite]

15 TIMES?!

[marble lion]

not in a row right?

[empty thicket]

Yep.

[glass granite]

1/20^15 (15 Nat 20s in a row)is 1 in 32 quadrillion

[empty thicket]

his dice was cursed

[undone fable]

whats going on with dnd?

[empty thicket]

damn, so it was more, but yeah, fortunately was only one enemy and we were amazed by that

[glass granite]

I wanna steal some of Fracno’s DM’s luck

[empty thicket]

Dont worry, for now we didnt had such events going on.
We are now good, but i told him that if he go outside, check if there is any storm or clouds around his area.
After that luck he could be struck by 3 lightnings

[undone fable]

thats pretty nice actually

[stable solar]

Most i ever got was 5 nat 1's in a row...

[glass granite]

I’ve gotten 1!
1!

(In a row)

[stable solar]

Dnd luck is sometimes so weird

[empty thicket]

Yep, when you need the dice to land an important fight, Nuh uh
Oh but a charisma throw for persuade the mercenary for helping you turn into a romance roll, its a nat 20 without doubt

[vast pelican]

You'll have to create the spell in the homebrew creator first.

[idle oar]

We’re working with them in #ddb-support

[lyric pewter]

I'm not sure if this is the right channel but I'm a player and a DM now so how do I change my roles to player and DM (I mean go back through that slideshow at the start)

Never mind I did it now! Yay

[elfin bison]

To what extend could disguise self work?

Like, I wanna have a character that looks like they have angel-like wings, but to what extend is that viable within that spell?

[hushed mason]

"You can't change your body type, so you must adopt a form that has the same basic arrangement of limbs. Otherwise, the extent of the illusion is up to you." No wings.

[elfin bison]

Hmm, okay, makes sense

Sad sad world we live in

[empty thicket]

welp, can ask the dm if with some wax, feathers and wood you can make some. Mostly will be pricey and wont last

[hushed mason]

It's an illusion, so the wings wouldn't work, anyway. Is there an Alter Self spell?

[empty thicket]

a lil hit would destroy them

[timid current]

it's not actually sad that a disguise doesn't give you a fly speed lol

[elfin bison]

I don't need them to work, I want them for pure visual effect

My character is high on the charisma and such, I want them to convey myself as more holy and trustworthy

[hushed mason]

Alter Self is the spell you're looking for. It can give you functional wings, if there is a winged humanoid-type creature in your setting that you can mimic.

[timid current]

visual effect I'd rule that it's just a part of the clothing

[elfin bison]

I don't need to actually fly or anything

[timid current]

but since the most common winged folk in D&D are aaracokra, I don't know how much trust that'll garner

[hushed mason]

You want to use a disguise to seem more... trustworthy? 🤣

[empty thicket]

"guys, im an angel, give me your ketamine" kind of thing like moon knight?

[elfin bison]

My character is very keen on spreading the word of their god, this is my way of doing so

[hushed mason]

It's terribly ironic. 🙂

[elfin bison]

I'm a warlock, got power and in return I promised this one god I would devote my love to spreading the word of their greatness

Life*

But yeah, since they're limbs, even if they don't work I won't be able to make them in disguise self technically I suppose

[hushed mason]

Indeed. Disguise Self is not the spell for this.

[elfin bison]

I guess I'll just make myself look like their parents instead

If I know what they look like

[empty thicket]

or can ask some artisan to build you some for some price too

[vale sage]

Is anyone really good, and I mean REALLY good at DnD? I need someone help for stuff for a custom group I’m making

[elfin bison]

I'll just use cardboard

How hard can it be

Okay, yalls opinion tho, what about those type of small wings some characters get on the back/side of their heads, would those be fine?

[empty thicket]

welp, you can, idk the "setting" of that campaign so, i assume wont be hard at all. Depending of the roll the dm want to settle for it too.
under X range would make them look okey, someone if focus on then will know they are fake
Above X will make those wings look like real and people will have a hard time noticing it.
Nat 20, the wings look natural on you

[lyric viper]

As in advice for DMing or advice on homebrew? If we knew more we might be able to direct you to the perfect channel to talk with folks all about that.

[tidal bough]

Not me but what is it

[elfin bison]

I'll consult them

[empty thicket]

or like i said, go for the safest option, money

[marble lion]

id allow the small wings on the head for sure. same for arms and legs. i dont think id allow wings on the back though, even ornamental

but maybe your patron can give you an "upgraded" version of the spell?

i dont think it would lead to balancing issues

[elfin bison]

My patron is the DM after all

[marble lion]

and the one benefitting from your advertising so yeah

"hey god i could advertise you better if i can make it look like i have wings"

[hushed mason]

Are they really benefiting from the deception, though?

[marble lion]

just be aware that people may prompt you to fly and ofc call the illusion at some point leading to way backlash possibly

[elfin bison]

Is it really deception if they believe it?

[vale sage]

Well, the issue is, I’m making a custom campaign/club with a character I made, and BECAUSE is a custom campaign, I made a new race with it’s own lore, and I need help balancing them, also I’m new so that doesn’t help

[marble lion]

you know the answer to that one

[elfin bison]

I'll just use my epic charisma to get outta that situation

[marble lion]

it will make for funny humour im sure

[elfin bison]

Nat 1 on trying to come up with a reason why I can't fly

[shy stirrup]

You're absolutely right, being new doesn't help with balancing custom creations. Head over to #homebrew or consider gaining more experience before creating custom mechanics

[vale sage]

Alr, thx

[empty thicket]

yeah, those are most of the time problematic. That is why i always try to go for not so complex stuff

a hook for making enemies get closer and finish them off, a black powder bomb with caltrops, etc. etc.

an adamantine javelin that will make the artificer infuse it with return weapon

[restive hound]

has anyone made a systematic chart of what content books unlock certain races, classes etc in dnd beyond?

[shy stirrup]

It's wise to understand the the rules before you bend or break them

[raven kernel]

Why do people call magic missile 1d4+1 per 3 missiles good when it’s outclassed by fire bolt on lvl 5 with 2d10?

I get it helps against fighting to discover a enemy who uses illusions or mirror image and blur… but it’s outclassed in damage, so why is magic missile good?

[idle oar]

Good for breaking enemy caster concentration, good for making a character lose all death saves and perma die.

Always hits

[ember fable]

Hello Guys

[shy stirrup]

MM never misses, among other benefits

[timid anvil]

It has a lot of utility simply for it hitting multiple times and can only be avoided with 1 spell and 1 magic item in the game

[raven kernel]

Concentration breaker for every consecutive hit, well that’s a good reason.

[empty thicket]

at that level you have a lot of other options too (being a wizard), depend what is your purpose

and again, its a spell with more chances, 3 shoots that can be spread to 3 enemies, 3d4 +3 in one enemy can reach 15 at highest roll

[timid anvil]

And it upcasts very well

[empty thicket]

a good range too, 120 feets is good enough for most encounters, unless you need to snipe something

[undone fable]

is scorching ray good?

[empty thicket]

if not, ray of sickness and ice knife are there too, both having 1 leaving a DOT and another having 2 damage ticks

[empty thicket]

an upgraded version of magic missile

sorc can use both spells so metamagic applied

[raven kernel]

That’s my problem with it, it’s outclassed easily in damage by lvl 5, and by then fire bolt is better, but I have my answer why it’s useful.

It’s a concentration breaker, like mage killer feat but in a mini version, rolling 3 times to maintain concentration is for any caster a nightmare, even with war caster that gives advantage.

[raven kernel]

A lvl 3 spell slot for magic missile, or FIRE BALL….

Yea im going for big boom and rather kill 3 enemies with 30 hp each.

[timid anvil]

Damage is not always the main reason a spell is considered good

There are plenty of spells in the game that deal no damage and are considered super good

[empty thicket]

yeah or just break 3 things at the same time, call it ropes, barrels, items, etc. etc.

[raven kernel]

For it’s level out of all damages you can get, yes, but take hold person and misty step along with it.

[empty thicket]

3 candlesticks hanging in the roof

[short cave]

Has there been anything new about the Psion being released?

[raven kernel]

Counter spell, misty step, invisibility, augury, feather fall, shield, and all my other control spells and utility.

[undone fable]

shield?

[raven kernel]

(Yea was editing it)

[empty thicket]

Jim's Magic Missile is good? its kinda risk benefit

[raven kernel]

Doesn’t that have a chance to shoot back at you? Hell nah

[timid anvil]

Jim's Magic Missile is kinda like Scorching Ray

[empty thicket]

yep but it add a layer of critic and nat 1, the component is different too (1gp of wax)

[undone fable]

is time stop good?

[raven kernel]

Yes

[empty thicket]

2 free turns to 5. Unless the enemy is protected by some magic to counterspell it

[dry dove]

Hii! Brand new here, if someone were looking to join a dnd campaign would this be the server to find them?

[empty thicket]

you can literally make 2 to 5 (or 4 to 10 if using metamagic) spells that dont need concentration

not component need too, that is important to know

can use it for literally recover the whole party, safely teleport, etc. etc.

[marble lion]

find yes, play no. check #find-a-game

[timid anvil]

Check out #looking-for-players and #looking-for-community if you are looking for a game :) if you want to make your own post that you are looking to play check out #find-a-game for instructions :)

[dry dove]

Thanks fam jams!

[empty thicket]

but at the same time, the enemies can use time stop

something to always remind, the BBEG can use spells too, depend of what hte dm make

i would make a BBEG that is a fighter strategist and have a group too, kinda like it.
Right and left hands being a Wizard and a Rogue

[raven kernel]

I need criticism since my DM said every spell is allowed for the one shot, this is my spell list for my drow divination wizard:

cantrips:
fire bolt, shocking grasp, ray of frost, prestidigitation,
dancing lights (race).

lvl 1 spells:
shield, mage armour, magic missile, absorb elements, feather fall, alarm, detect magic, faerie fire (race).

lvl 2 spells:
scorching ray, invisibility, hold person, misty step, augury, darkness (race), web (wand).

lvl 3 spells:
fire ball, counter spell, clairvoyance.

Please correct me.

And no im not gonna punish my DM with silvery barbs, im chaotic evil in this one shot but that goes too far.

[undone fable]

i like lightning bolt

[timid anvil]

#optimization or #character-discussion would be a better place to ask depending on if you just want opinions or want to optimize

[raven kernel]

I’ll move it to there 👍

[blissful ibex]

especially if circle casting is allowed

[sleek cloud]

This is the one shot where the whole party is evil right

[empty thicket]

There is any way to infuse a weapon with a Counterspell or smt like that?
i have in my head the idea of literally destroying a fire ball with a greatsword or a Dark star too

[valid geyser]

enspelled weapon, but that only applies to specific schools

[empty thicket]

like which ones?

[raven kernel]

Yes

[sleek cloud]

I still vote for using portent to make your allies fail

True evil

[upper lintel]

Druids lore is awesome

[coarse ravine]

Gotta love mother nature

[upper lintel]

There supper op to and strong.

[coarse ravine]

Moon is op. Wildfire is the most fun I've played in the class tho

[stray atlas]

Hey y'all I'm back with more mind flayer questions

[coarse ravine]

Bg3

[upper lintel]

Moons is awesome

[feral fulcrum]

Interdimensional parasitical space squids of psychic doom and body horror

[stray atlas]

it true that gnome ceremorphs typically remember more about the person they were born from and are less elitist?

[coarse ravine]

Yeah... you can flat-out take out armies low cr 100+ with that lol. Moon druid gets nutty with that burrowing.

[stray atlas]

or is what I've stumbled upon some homebrew stuff?

[feral fulcrum]

#dnd-lore is probably the better place to ask questions regarding the squids lore

[stray atlas]

I mean it is what got me interested in them but idt gnome ceremorphs are in bg3

[feral fulcrum]

More people who uh...know and answer that stuff.

[coarse ravine]

Gnomes get treated differently?

[stray atlas]

from what I've gathered they normally aren't chosen to be used as a tadpole host no

[coarse ravine]

Yeah I have no clue I've never been a gnome. Recently learned kobolds created gnomes tho. Very interesting

[empty thicket]

Yes, i bend a knee to talk with them

[feral fulcrum]

It's probably more that Small Races dont' grow into the typical Mind Flayer, on account of being, well, Small.

[empty thicket]

or any short//small creature, like this lady from Silksong

[stray atlas]

from what I've gathered they're too small for the process to work correctly

and races that are too big don't produce a flayer correctly either

but back to what I was saying

[feral fulcrum]

Etins.

[stray atlas]

I can't find any info about what happens to other shorter races like dwarves or halflings but seemingly gnomes are unique

[empty thicket]

would be nice that big ones produce a flayer more centered in close combat, some sort of Psi fighter and smaller get more power in spells but are a glass cannon

[feral fulcrum]

There's probably not much actual info on the subject

[stray atlas]

the process can also go very very wrong with gnomes though

[empty thicket]

So, like always, humans doing the breeding

[feral fulcrum]

Given that like 90% of Mindlflayer stuff gets the "A Psychic Did it. It's Psychic Space Magic, don't ask questions!" Treatment.

[empty thicket]

welcome to Dungeons & Dragons

[stray atlas]

either they become friendlier mind flayers with more memories of their host than average OR they become some animalistic purple blob thing with an oversized head that are pretty much solely reliant on caretakers

[empty thicket]

im holding back a lto of jokes about it. A lot.

[upper lintel]

I love tht dnd movie honor among thieves its a great time. Hoping for a sequel

[stray atlas]

kinda wonder if I could play a gnome ceremorph in a campaign come to think of it

[feral fulcrum]

It'd be up to the DM, as that falls firmly under homebrew. As there are not official Mindflayer related race options and the like

[raw ocean]

Best questions to ask during session 0?

[stray atlas]

oh also they don't seem to have an evil alignment which is neat

[stray atlas]

they are in official campaigns as npcs I think

icewind dale specifically

[shy stirrup]

It's great, but alas it "underperformed", and there is no sequel in the works

[spring bloom]

That actually sounds wild! A gnome ceremorph would be such a unique twist, tiny but terrifying. Are you thinking more for combat shenanigans or roleplay chaos?

[feral fulcrum]

I very much doubt Mindflayers will ever end up as a racial option. On account on them being...hilariously problematic.

[empty thicket]

welp, would be some moral questions and questions that help you to understand how the player think most of the time.

"You crash against a thief that stole something from a shopkeeper, the thief recognize you and tell you it will give you a part of what he stole if you help him, What are you gonna do if you were your character?"
With that reply you can know in some ways what they will do

[blissful ibex]

sadly, it's not an artificer spell so you can't do it with their level 11 feature either

[spring bloom]

Ah, that’s even cooler! So you could play one without being forced into evil, definitely opens up some interesting roleplay. Icewind Dale as a setting makes it even more fun too!

[blissful ibex]

it's probably my second behind the upcomming Circle of Preservation druid
then like dreams, and then stars

[empty thicket]

infuse, put runes, etc. etc. In general is just find a way to make a cool greatsword to literally react and break a spell coming at you

[feral fulcrum]

Touch on things best avoided ingame, ask what themes they'd like to see (And avoid), what level of descripitive violence they're good with, etc etc.

[upper lintel]

Dang that sucks could of been a special triolgy .we do got the dnd animated shows that are really good

[feral fulcrum]

Basically get a feel for where boundaries are, and what the group wants to shoot for.

[empty thicket]

Yep and how they would resolve some situations too. If they try to do things complex or if they go for the obvious things

[blissful ibex]

put it in a ring of spell storing which you have worked into the hilt of the blade

only requirement of the item to cast with it is that you're touching the ring when you cast

[empty thicket]

that sound like a way, now lets see how the F$@6 i get a spell storing ring and how to charge it, im a fighter

[blissful ibex]

need a wizard, warlock, or sorcerer on the team with access to counterspell that is willing to fill it for you
otherwise, the spellcasting services table should the setting/your DM allow it

[sweet swallow]

LMAO the save roll for command is 30 charisma

[feral fulcrum]

Find and or buy one. Pay Wizard

[empty thicket]

artificer, paladin get that spell too? or not?

[blissful ibex]

Watchers and redemption paladin both do, don't think artificer does though

[feral fulcrum]

It's your Spell Save DC, actually.

[empty thicket]

then im cooked, i have an oathbreaker. Welp, will see if the DM add some of those classes like an ally for our missions or for do that kind of trading with it

[feral fulcrum]

Which very definitely doesn't get up to 30

[sweet swallow]

gng

[coarse ravine]

Super useful tho

[sweet swallow]

the save roll for when i cast command is 30 me and my dm went over it

[blissful ibex]

I mean, if your DM allows it, if you're in a town or city It's only 300gp to find a spellcaster to cast a level 3 spell for you XD

[coarse ravine]

Command to drop and another teammate picks up the weapon.

[empty thicket]

na, we are in a kind of base, we have access to a merchant but only sell normal items, arrows, weapons, armors, etc. etc.

[feral fulcrum]

Great for mooks, not so great for bosses, as like 9/10 times I gaurentee the DM will have that thing teleport back, like how Warlocks can do.

[empty thicket]

the closest town would need me to cross a dangerous area and im not willing to get Goblin Slayed first episode

[coarse ravine]

I was just thinking about pact weapon

[feral fulcrum]

You're only stealing their shiny magic sword from their cold dead hands.

[coarse ravine]

Its the easiest way to beat that bg3 act 1 encounter. I learned the trick from a friend 😉

[sleek cloud]

Not to mention there’s the whole attunement deal

[coarse ravine]

Its more so steal the weapon so he cant use it

[vivid yacht]

Hi everybody, I’m new here. Nice to meet you.

So have you guys started a campaign?

[blissful ibex]

Eldritch Knight can do it as well
or any class with the eldritch adept feat and taking pact of the blade

[empty thicket]

There is many kind of campaigns starting, going on and more.
You are free to check in #find-a-game , just read properly and take your time with it

[vivid yacht]

Thanks

Wait so we don’t like do the campaign here sorry I’m new so I barely know anything about discord or how it works here

[empty thicket]

dont be, no one will shoot you in the legs for asking.
No, there is a place where you can find where to play into one

You can ask, find others stuff that you might like and use in your campaings, get ideas here or learn.

[vivid yacht]

OK, thanks

[empty thicket]

De nada (you're welcome)

[sweet swallow]

🏏 🏏

[upper lintel]

There is a video of the actor Deborah who was explaining dnd to jon bernthal is the best way to explain dnd .

[trail sequoia]

if i wanna go about using a batman esque character, what class n subclass should i use?

[sweet swallow]

fighter and monk probably

[empty thicket]

A Rogue mastermind

[sweet swallow]

oh yeah

i forgot rouges existed

[empty thicket]

Remember that the best weapons of Batman are his stealth and strategy

[trail sequoia]

could gloomstalker work

[sweet swallow]

dude i hate how much ive been carrying my party i healed like a total of 3k hp

in one fight

[empty thicket]

im checking which ones can work, the idea is someone that use tools, stealth and strategy

Inquisitive work with the idea too

[coarse ravine]

I would like to say batman would possibly be a ranger/fighter. Or could argue paladin for his suits and ranger. But.... he's def sneaky so maybe some rogue in there

[empty thicket]

Neat, in the bossfights we had with my party, the bosses were being obliterated by me mostly (fighter champion) because i was dealing around the 70% of their hp in total.
Now the Paladin is almost at my range of damage but he have to sacrifice too much hp for that.

[empty thicket]

it depend how you see the idea of Batman in general, i see him like someone cold and logic, make plans, go in the darkness and sneak up.

[blissful ibex]

Hollow Warden ranger could be a really flavorful fit but it's still in UA

[coarse ravine]

Yeah but also he is very tanky to take hits from superheroes. Id def say he has heavy armor for sure

[sweet swallow]

i literally had to tank a one shot attack for one of my party members to escape

[coarse ravine]

Gloomstalker is perfect for sure.

[empty thicket]

And now that my bard is casting Haste on me, doing 3 (4 attacks if critic) attacks per round + action surge make me deal around 120 of damage if all attacks land

[coarse ravine]

Maybe mountain dwarf or another race for heavy armor and ranger.

[empty thicket]

that being honest, idk if that damage outpost is okey or is too much too

im still new so idk if such thing is too overkill or not

[coarse ravine]

What are you playing?

[empty thicket]

i like doing big numbers of damage, my artificer sometimes say "holy s...." because it seems is lots of it

[empty thicket]

Fighter champion, half orc

Lvl 7 right now

[sweet swallow]

i ran a mile to buy my party food and i didnt even get a thank you

[blissful ibex]

It's a burst mode that burns multiple resources and is heavily limited in number of uses, it's honestly fine

[coarse ravine]

You are a fighter... its what yall do

[empty thicket]

Spit in their milk, rub the cheese in your feets and idk, throw some dirt in their stew

[coarse ravine]

Artificers get sooooo many options outside of combat... like endless

Fighters.... are Fighters let em shine.

[sweet swallow]

i got one from my dm and my gf tho

everyone else didnt i also paid out of my own pocket

[empty thicket]

Yep, i know. My whole role is if things go violent and a fight start, make it stop.
Im trying to be nicer and let people try to talk out the things or me try to talk the things out. Having 10 charisma doesnt help.

And make the party stay alive or dont f$/# things up

[coarse ravine]

You gotta remember you are a martial. Do your thing spellcasters usually always outshine martials. They picked their class and you picked yours. Go hard with your champion fighter

[sweet swallow]

i have like 30 charisma

[empty thicket]

now we have another fighter that is a humanoid hippo, he have a gun now...

[sweet swallow]

i think its 20 with a +10 modify

[coarse ravine]

You got a Manuel 5 times?

[sweet swallow]

no

[scenic zinc]

There's other ways to increase it

[blissful ibex]

Martials are sustained damage with limited, hyper focused burst
casters are burst damage/utility with midling sustained
concentration casters are somewhat both, but they're incredibly slow vs instantanious casters and have to be able to save against concentration compared to martials

[sweet swallow]

its natural

i just have bad stats

[empty thicket]

oh yeah, i know that. Im trying always to take some lead and make space.
Still, the party is 2 fighters (champion and psi), 1 paladin, 1 bard and 1 artificer.
Im like the most reliable damage in the team and if my bard and art buff me im able to literally decimate anything.

[sweet swallow]

dm gave me a big increase for one stat becaue im participating the most

[coarse ravine]

I was simply saying fighter shouldn't hold back. Spellcasters get to shine in every other encounter. Wizards investigation, clerics or druids perception and survival checks. Fighters get what? Athletics so they can pick up rocks and fight mechanically

[scenic zinc]

The biggest issue is the dm's that do single or very low encounter adventuring days.

[coarse ravine]

So inside fighting let the fighter shine!

[coarse ravine]

Multiple enemies helps with this also

[scenic zinc]

Why is the fighter not doing other checks?

[empty thicket]

and important fact, the Bard have giga bad luck so he doenst do "damage" at all. Not a feature, its his own luck irl.
He can throw 10 vicious mockeries and land only 1 and will be a success

[scenic zinc]

They're a character like anyone else.

[shy stirrup]

Me Big Dumb Fighter
Me no do checks

[sweet swallow]

i can roll like a 70 for a heal

[empty thicket]

I try to, but i know im not the "best" for some

[coarse ravine]

Correct but a character that isn't ritual casting cool abilities. Or creating stuff like artificer.

[scenic zinc]

If that's how you decide to play? Sure.

[blissful ibex]

Hey, they get tactical mind now XD

[coarse ravine]

What's that?

[blissful ibex]

100% this, as a DM you need to burn through your players' resources

[sweet swallow]

oh nope

[scenic zinc]

Nothing is stopping the fighter from crafting

[sweet swallow]

i have 30 charisma and 10+ modifier

[blissful ibex]

5e 2024, second level fighter feature; you can roll second wind to add to a failed check, doesn't use the charge if the check still fails

[coarse ravine]

Well pcs always try to rest right after encounters too. So sometimes its a balance of letting them do it for players choice or push them further.

[tidal bough]

Strange to just have a stat maxed out but ight

[scenic zinc]

They can try all they like - doesn't mean you need to let it be successful.

[tidal bough]

Its going to derail the combat heavily

[scenic zinc]

They'll eventually learn to either set a watch or wait until it's actually safe.

[empty thicket]

wait, let me do a math.
4d9+4d4+8 max rolls x2 (Action surge) = 100 damage
Yep, i can literally if only a miracle happen, do more htan that in 1 turn

oh wait, i didnt added my proficiency

but yeah, you get an idea of how much "possible" damage i could do

[sweet swallow]

70 is the averge for my single heal

[blissful ibex]

you interrupt them

[empty thicket]

only with a haste, now if i add other buffs i would be able to more

[coarse ravine]

4d9?

[scenic zinc]

You're just straight up doing homebrew

[coarse ravine]

I mean heal does 70 hp yeah?

[sweet swallow]

yeah

[tidal bough]

Me when I dont lie smh

[sweet swallow]

i can show a screenshot

[coarse ravine]

Youre using the spell heal?

[sweet swallow]

cure wounda

[coarse ravine]

First level spell? For 70 hp?

[tame forge]

70, on cure wounds is wild work.

[sweet swallow]

wounds 8th level

[scenic zinc]

They are talking about averages. Meaning they're not talking about the spell Heal. They're talking about healing.

[coarse ravine]

Yuck!!!!!

[tame forge]

8th level is more reasonable.

[sweet swallow]

and its touch one

[tidal bough]

I mean cure wounds at 8th lvl is pretty inefficient

[tame forge]

Ye

[scenic zinc]

Cool. That's once a day lol

[blissful ibex]

using 'heal'

[tidal bough]

Especially with other things

[sweet swallow]

mass cure wounds goes like 30

[coarse ravine]

Considering one spell slot higher is power word heal. Max hp

[tidal bough]

^

[sweet swallow]

im not trying to be efficient

[empty thicket]

4 attacks /2+haste+Savage attacks/
X
(1d9 /+1 longsword/ + 1d4 /Critic/ + 2 /Duelist fighting style/)
X
2 /action surge/

(this is clear and understandable?)

[coarse ravine]

Can make the barbarian go right back to 400 hp or whatever they get

[sweet swallow]

i just wanna have fun

[tame forge]

Regenerate does a ton. There is another healing spell at 6th level iirc that does like a flat 70 or 80 hp

[scenic zinc]

At level 20 you have 2 7ths, 1 8th, and 1 9th. You're not "on average" healing 70hp each time you heal.

[sweet swallow]

which one

[blissful ibex]

heal, at 6th
flat 70 and clears a few status conditions

[tidal bough]

I mean yeah cure wounds will do that healing regardless of your spell casting modifier

[tame forge]

^ yeah Heal 6th level

[coarse ravine]

Yes he can fo heal and upcast it.... but not on average

[tidal bough]

At that level of a cure wounds*

[sweet swallow]

dont have it

[scenic zinc]

Which is the whole point I'm getting at.

[blissful ibex]

healer feat with aura of vitality is nice

[coarse ravine]

Can do 80 hp with upcasting heal

[scenic zinc]

Unless there's heavy homebrew involved, you're not healing that much on average.

[coarse ravine]

With moon sickle and wildfire druid 😉

Extra 1d4 and 1d8.

[sweet swallow]

its level 8 and its a close up single
person heal spell

[coarse ravine]

Yes but its a 8th level spell....

[tame forge]

Pretty insignificant gains for 8th level yeah.

[coarse ravine]

When you can turn 950+ people into elephants...... or many many other options for 8th level spells

[sweet swallow]

the healing increased by 2d8 for every spell slot above level 1

[coarse ravine]

"Earthquake.... or heal for 70 hmmmm"

[sweet swallow]

oml

im not minmaxing im just trying to have fun

[tame forge]

Regenerate (7th) regrows and reattaches limbs, and does well over 100hp healing. Etc.

[coarse ravine]

Turning a entire town into elephants is kinda fun

[knotty basin]

What spell is that

[coarse ravine]

Controlling the weather is kinda fun.....

[blissful ibex]

not if you have a familiar/wildfire spirit >:3
then it's sort of at range

[coarse ravine]

Animal shapes dm eligible however

[scenic zinc]

Have fun all you want. That's perfectly fine.

I'm only saying you're not healing an average of 70hp every time you do healing. That's all.

[tame forge]

Irs not about minmaxing, its just especially bad. Its like saying ya dont want to mimmax so you took a squirt gun to ww2. Like at that point its not minmaxing just take a pistol at least.

[empty thicket]

im trying a little bit honestly, to see what i am capable off mostly. Still playing a class that get behind casters but im still capable of pick someone, Stand in front of it and literally peel their skin like their are a giant potato

[coarse ravine]

Also... saying you are not min maxing while also having 30 charisma

Ehhh idk....

[blissful ibex]

technically, 16d8 averages to 72
not going to hit that every time ofc but it IS the average

[wispy flare]

I got baldurs gate 3!

[knotty basin]

Only works on willing targets

[scenic zinc]

Either heavy homebrew or their dm gave them crazy items

[coarse ravine]

I just saw a gargantuan owlbear do 1078 damage

[coarse ravine]

Exactly dm willing and discretion.

[tidal bough]

30 is the maximum frfr

[wispy flare]

Talking to Me?

[scenic zinc]

Unless you're only ever healing with an 8th or 9th level spell... sure. But again, that's not what most of your spell slots are.

[tidal bough]

The guy and gal playing?

[knotty basin]

That’s not a DM discretion thing. It just doesn’t work on people who don’t want to be turned into elephants

[coarse ravine]

Apparently potion of growth and enlarge reduce spell stack. So moon bear just jumps on people and its ko

[scenic zinc]

I really don't think you're understanding that specific point.

[coarse ravine]

Who is the people you are talking to? The dm so its at dms discretion to make that spell what it can be

[wispy flare]

Is this.. related to baldurs gate 3?

[coarse ravine]

Yes

[blissful ibex]

extra fun when you add range circle casting and can suddenly Animal Shapes every willing creature in a 2 mile diameter sphere; cross section fitting in a 2125x2125 tile area

[wispy flare]

Oh ok. I’ve never played it and I just got it on steam for my Mac

[empty thicket]

me and my party had to fight an ancient owlbear or smt like that, it had like 800hp
In like 6 rounds we made him be in 200hp only focusing him (mostly the damage of hte paladin and me)
It ran away after we managed to reach such threshold and we were all low hp.
It was a test for the Damage outpost of the party

[coarse ravine]

I dont think you can do that outside of bg3 in dnd

[empty thicket]

A tarrasque have like 500hp if im not wrong

[tidal bough]

Surely its more

[tame forge]

Should be able to in D&D

[scenic zinc]

Not in 5e

[blissful ibex]

sure, but for that one cast it is XD

[tidal bough]

697*

[scenic zinc]

5e Tarrasque is a big dumb dog

[coarse ravine]

Idk I googled it and chat gpt said no they don't stack

[tame forge]

Cant imagine why potion of enlargement (it it exists) wouldnt stack with E&R

[tame forge]

Cause chat GPT doesnt make significant mistakes 1/3 times.

[empty thicket]

still, we managed to drop such hp against it, 100 more and we would had obliterated a tarrasque in terms of hp

[scenic zinc]

BG3 ruleset isn't the same as dnd. It's a heavily homebrewed ruleset.

[coarse ravine]

2 spells lots one turn etc

[hot reef]

Which magic items take the burden of concentration of the spells they cast?

[empty thicket]

still help to understand a bit around DnD

[scenic zinc]

None.

[coarse ravine]

I think.... alot of expendable items

[tidal bough]

Potion of growth does

[empty thicket]

none, concentration is a way to balance some spells. If not, make sure you get someone thick in front of you and tank the damages

[coarse ravine]

Like potion of growth potion of speed. Idk if stone of controlling elementals requires concentration

[scenic zinc]

There's one spell that does it. Glyph of Warding with the stored Spell effect.

[tidal bough]

Wand of web

[hot reef]

Any non-consumables? (looking for wording for magic items)

[tidal bough]

Most charge items do like wand of (insert conc spell)

[scenic zinc]

No.

[coarse ravine]

You have to cast it

[tame forge]

Brain in a Jar from Sandy Petersons C'thulu mythos campaign books.

Familiar that can concentrate on spells for you.

That is very much not going to fly in games not using that module tho.

[sweet swallow]

my dm gavee
good stats since ive done all the work for mu team

[coarse ravine]

Aka concentrate on it.

[scenic zinc]

This is incorrect. Unless the item/feature explicitly says it removes concentration, it still requires concentration.

[tidal bough]

Its cast from the item im pretty sure right?

[scenic zinc]

It being from the item simply means you can't counterspell it as it has no components.

[tame forge]

By raw the only way I know of to get around concentration requirements is magic item crafting.

[tidal bough]

Strange frfr

[hot reef]

potions specify "(no concentration required)"

[empty thicket]

in a campaign im going to participate the dm gave us 2 rolls for the stats, the bot gave me some good ones at first, rolled again and asked if i can choose whichever i want from the 2 tries, he said yes.
I got even better, gambling worked

[tame forge]

Yeah and potions

[coarse ravine]

Black razor (legendary)

[scenic zinc]

But only because they specifically say so.

[tame forge]

Minmaxxing at its finest.

[hot reef]

Guess there aren't any non-consumables that have that wording. Thanks y'all

[scenic zinc]

It's not an inherent feature of potions.

[hot reef]

oh nvm, Blackrazor

[coarse ravine]

Shield of uven rune (very rare)

[empty thicket]

it was luck, if i got in those 2 rolls at least 3 stats under 10, i would be Cooked and couldnt change them.
So, for one time, i was lucky. You will see how i will try to roll for a charisma thing and will end up in a trial about to get executed in the third session

[coarse ravine]

Winged boots

[tame forge]

I enjoy running characters with a couple abysmal stats tbh.

Makes them more real and unique

[coarse ravine]

Especially if you include it into your backstory why they are this way

[empty thicket]

i wont minded honestly, i like to roleplay the failure of my actions because i find funny was to do it.
I will go like a wizard so i will do some funny with spells.
That dm like how i roleplay sometimes

[tame forge]

100%

[coarse ravine]

My first character fell off a mountain and busted his head. (Dumped intelligence)

[empty thicket]

welp, in theory, mine is a slave that was rescued and became a scholar and merchant, not soo much time for work out so, there is the 9str justification

[tame forge]

Having a 7 charisma, and I am a girl with warts and achne, who was pudgy and nerdy. Couldn't convince anyone of shit but I was smarter than hell with very high intelligence.

[coarse ravine]

That fall also broke most of his bones... (also dumped strength lol)

[coarse ravine]

Gotta dump charisma now and make a crosseyed character

[tame forge]

Lmao 🤣

[coarse ravine]

Also has a lisp and studders hahah

[empty thicket]

bro isnt even a Stephen hawking, what do your character do? give pity to the people?

[coarse ravine]

He was a Goliath and firbolgs saved him into their grove etc etc

[sweet swallow]

and i also gave my
dm chips and a redbull

[empty thicket]

welp, with another pc i have, the fighter one, i have 10 charisma and i justify it like, "I am a gladiator fighter, i dont speak, i fight and entertain people with those fights" justifying too the fighter and subclass champion, like "Champion of the Arenas". Sadly he got kicked out of the arenas for sleeping and dont entering in the fights....like 5 times....

[empty thicket]

i cant give them nothing, i play mostly online. If i were able i would cook something for every session .
My arrogant pizza is one of the things i would do more

[sweet swallow]

i should make an undyne character

what class would undyne be

[empty thicket]

It use heavy armor and spears, paladin or fighter

[prisma mason]

A fish person paladin would be pretty exact yeah

[knotty basin]

Samurai fighter?

[fossil hollow]

Sent a zombie beholder at level 3 party fun times

[sweet swallow]

on time i had to tpk a campaign since everyone there was racist

[marble lion]

you had to walk away

[prisma mason]

Valid

[marble lion]

but hey if you enjoyed it i guess its worth it

[sweet swallow]

yeah i was on session two

[vague jolt]

When the monster manual mentions planar and then the level. What does it mean? Is it like a world between worlds? Or something else

[empty thicket]

That its understandable, act stupid get punished.
I would only do jokes when its the time

like, a dwarf is being annoying to my party,
"dm, can i roll a charisma check for saying a bunc of slurs to him?"
Nat1, slurs became subtle flirting
"guys, im married now"

"The weeding is the next week, hope you all bring gifts"
(i won +2ac to the whole party for a week)

[ancient iron]

hi im new

[sweet swallow]

the only time my character is racist is towards npc vampires

[ancient iron]

i am currently involved in a "one shot" that isn't actually a one shot campaign and i am new to dnd

does anyone have advice on how to find local DM's ?

[sweet swallow]

uhh

[blissful ibex]

visit your Friendly Local Game Store c:

[empty thicket]

check in social pages like facebook, instagram, etc. from your area. Contact with them and see if there is such thing.
always stay safe too

[blissful ibex]

or see if there is a city discord/subreddit/etc where they're advertised

[ancient iron]

damn okay yeah

[blissful ibex]

generally a LGS hosted TTRPG/dnd day would be your best bet though

[ancient iron]

i have one friend who is a DM, but they wont be around for a while so we need to find someone else in the meantime

[sweet swallow]

my dm has a half homebrew thing going on and its pretty fun

[lavish flame]

Visiting your Local Game Store or checking out a local Facebook should get you local places and people. Just look up "Game Store near me" on Google/Facebook and you should be set.

[ancient iron]

okay cool i will do that actually

[river wigeon]

WHAT IS THE BEST CLASS

[blissful ibex]

the one you have the most fun playing

[sweet swallow]

if you complete minmax you deserve to get everything scaled

[empty thicket]

ask them if there is any group he know and accept new people into it

[sweet swallow]

for only you

[river wigeon]

I never played im setting up my first campaign with my friends and im going to be cleric

[blissful ibex]

there's a time to min-max and it's when the entire party is made of min-max characters and the DM is in on it

[sweet swallow]

yes

[stuck shuttle]

I disagree, player investment should be rewarded and challenged, not singled out

[lavish flame]

I've always been partial to Wizards

[blissful ibex]

cleric is a good class

[river wigeon]

Isn’t that like the hardest class to use for a beginner

[sweet swallow]

its not fun to have one person with 30 ac at level 10

[ancient iron]

druids are cool

[blissful ibex]

they have a lot of options, so it tends to be harder because you need to know what your spells do, yes

martial characters tend to be the simplist but cleric can do both

[sweet swallow]

cuz then i have to make every enemy harder so everyone else gets decimated

[ancient iron]

im currently learning more about classes and races and how to build character sheets

[stuck shuttle]

You don't actually. There's many other ways to challenge a high AC player

[ancient iron]

i currently play as a wizard in a campaign and i really love having magic abilities

[lavish flame]

People say that but I've never understood why. They get a lot of spell choices, but each spell tells you what it does. You don't get class features, just spells.

[stuck shuttle]

The only way to get that high of an AC is to invest in magic items and player options, which takes away from other things they could be focusing on. As a DM I can challenge them in ways other than targeting their AC

[potent siren]

High AC? Ok, have this Charisma/Wisdom/Intelligence saving throw :)

[blissful ibex]

it's decision paralysis mostly
you're going to need to reread spells and it will slow down combat, or might not get what a utility spell does due to wording
best to see wizard played before playing wizard if you're not big into leearning the rules first

[coarse ravine]

They try to say moon druid... cause you need to know the beasts you can change into. My first character ever was a moon druid. So ya gotta know your shapes without bogging down the game

[sweet swallow]

i think minmaxing is fine but if ur gonna try and oneshot everything im gonna make you fight a tarrasque by yourself

[stuck shuttle]

Or rather, I want to reward them for their effort by:

• Allowing moments to show off their investment (e.g. having enemies actually try to attack them, even if I know out of game they're likely gonna fail)
• Allowing moments to challenge their investment (e.g. have some enemies ignore them depending on their goals)

[empty thicket]

None, every class have his own features and shine in their own way

[coarse ravine]

Define best

[blissful ibex]

optimization in and of itself is fine, but it's when you try to push things well past the rest of the party, or full on 'power gaming' that it becomes an issue

[empty thicket]

Its more about "what i wnat to do" than anything else

[coarse ravine]

If its a race then monk is best....

[lavish flame]

Its a reading game, so this doesn't feel like more complicated than anything else.

[coarse ravine]

Depends on what "Best" is in your opinion

[river wigeon]

My friend keeps saying he will use Druid so that he walk around going
FIREBALL FIREBALL
Literally saying that

[stuck shuttle]

This tows the line of adversarial DMing imo. Outside of Paladin there's very few ways to hypernova a creature, and especially in a way that doesn't drain resources. If a player wanted to burn their stuff for the day to really really kill something, what's wrong with that?

[coarse ravine]

Druids dont get fireball

Circle of wildfire...no fireball

[empty thicket]

Want to cast lots of spells, wizard,
want to cast giga strong spells and adapt them, sorc
Want to be tanky and be the frontline, Berserker//Paladin
etc. etc.

[blissful ibex]

it is, but it also helps to get a feel for the flow of things before jumping into one of the most complex classes

[river wigeon]

Oh then it must be wizard

[empty thicket]

or sorc and change the element of the fireball to a electric ball

[blissful ibex]

which, fair, it's a very powerful spell

[coarse ravine]

Unearthed arcana had it

[coarse ravine]

But give it to the light cleric? Who's supposed to be about radiant?

[stuck shuttle]

I present to you Scribes Wizard

[sweet swallow]

spend 3 hours making a big encounter for the session just to have it die in like 5 turns

[blissful ibex]

druid is more concentration based with their damage, it totally unbalances their spell economy >.>

[stuck shuttle]

A 5 turns or 5 rounds? A 5-round combat is already on the lengthier side

[coarse ravine]

The other spell is auto prep plant growth. So much flavor in that. Destroying the forest and rebuilding it. I mean it was in unearthed arcana for a reason

[sweet swallow]

5 turns 1 turn per person and there was 7 people in the party

[coarse ravine]

No subclass druid is still amazing.

[blissful ibex]

it's my favorite class XD

[stuck shuttle]

Was it a solo enemy?

[hushed mason]

Well, that's disappointing for the folks that never got to act.

[coarse ravine]

Doesn't change the fact that wildfire should have fireball

Considering plant growth is the other spell

Just alot of flavor there.

[blissful ibex]

plant growth is literally one of my favorite spells in the game XD

[sweet swallow]

yeah but i made it strong accounting for the guys minmax but he had stuff he didnt tell me about so he nuked it and it died 4 turns later

[blissful ibex]

my quintisential druid is Circle of Preservation

[coarse ravine]

Well over 8 hour period in campaigns you can leave lasting affects

[stuck shuttle]

The fact that it was solo was your issue, not with minmaxing. A solo monster will always lose in action economy, especially in a 7-person party

[coarse ravine]

Or effects however that is supposed to get used lol

[blissful ibex]

the 1 action effect on it utterly boggs down enemies as well
4x movement penalty in an area with existing plants that size is incredibly punishing

[coarse ravine]

Saved a dying forest by spending a week there once a year doing tne 8 hour castings in a campaign once.

[sweet swallow]

the enemy was pretty strong and i gave it extra turns to acccount

[coarse ravine]

Yes definitely encounter changing as its not difficult terrain

[blissful ibex]

skipped ||yesker hill|| and finding the ||gems or whatever there|| with it in CoS

[coarse ravine]

So difficult terrain on top of plant growth is 40 feet per square

[stuck shuttle]

Was the party also at full resources? That'd make the encounter significantly easier as well. Hell, a Paladin that just needs to target 1 monster is going to burn it down fast even without minmaxing

[blissful ibex]

also not dispellable with dispell magic

[coarse ravine]

Exactly Its instantaneous

So is erupting earth. So boom boom its lock down

[sweet swallow]

they were pretty drained

[stuck shuttle]

So who killed the boss easily, and how did they do it?

[coarse ravine]

Psychic scream

Encounter ender after legendary resistances

Jk idk

[undone fable]

I agree.

[stuck shuttle]

I think Teafire said the party was 7 level 10s, so I hope they don't have access to a 9th level spell

[coarse ravine]

Hey Monk lands his stuns that works too

[stuck shuttle]

Oh yeah for sure. Not many solo monsters can survive getting stunned

[coarse ravine]

My bbeg thankfully has stun immunity ||Elemental cataclysm|| I didn't even kmow that was a thing until after I looked at it. Ive never seen a stun immunity

[fossil hollow]

Zombie Beholder + several Intellect Devourers, so fun

[coarse ravine]

Oh my

[stuck shuttle]

I uh, I think I'll let mordenkainen handle that encounter thank you

[sweet swallow]

no the party was level 15 i was giving an ac example with a level 10 player

[fossil hollow]

level 3 party seems to be doing good, thanks to the water elemental summon

[sweet swallow]

sorry for late replys im playing forsaken rn

it was a paladin

this happened a while ago

and its why i stopped dming

[stuck shuttle]

Was it a critical smite?

[sweet swallow]

mhm

[stuck shuttle]

That's just the base Paladin kit 😭

Part of smiting is the nova potential

[empty thicket]

A daily reminder of always covering your ears and see around your area. If you see it, dont let it notice you did it.

[undone fable]

Critical smite?

[stuck shuttle]

Smiting on a critical hit

[sweet swallow]

rahh crazy clutch

i went from one shot hp to 60

and survived at 40 for the rest of the round

[undone fable]

Ah. Im planning on playing a paladin for an epic one shot. 7 (currently vengeance) paladin 10 eloquence bard 2 hexblade warlock 1 dss.

[eager marsh]

huh...2024 armorer lost their whole partitioned armor infusion choices. unfortunate

[humble cairn]

The whole infusion system changed.

[eager marsh]

Ehh, it's largely the same in practice since most infusions were reprinted still

[humble cairn]

Right, it was a slight redefinition.

[eager marsh]

Though the lv9 armorer feature now is just straight up worse than before

[humble cairn]

It scales your innate weapon, though.

[undone fable]

oooof.

[eager marsh]

it gives the weapona +1. which you would already be able to do free with the old partitioned infusion but at +2 the level after

[undone fable]

i really like artificer

[eager marsh]

artificer is fine. armorer specifically got a nerf

[empty thicket]

i like the concept and would make an artificer someday

just because i like being creative

[undone fable]

so it is homebrew if I combine features from 2014 ranger and 2024 ranger?

so i can talk more about that i nthe right channel

[empty thicket]

sort off, you can give free will to pick one or another

or just few features

[eager marsh]

That's strictly altered rules and not something you can choose to do without DM permission

[undone fable]

what if im the dm?

[eager marsh]

then you arent playing ranger

[hushed mason]

It would be something homebrewed into a custom class, then.

[undone fable]

a custom class?

[hushed mason]

If you're taking elements from two different sets of rules and mashing them together, I'd say that's homebrewing. Just my opinion, of course.

[eager marsh]

2024 Ranger already has essentially every single good or relevant 2014 ranger class feature anyways

[blissful ibex]

• some really nice stuff frontloaded

[undone fable]

What if I made a document for my changes in ranger class?

[eager marsh]

thats still homebrew. and also genuinely unecessary you'd do a bunch of work for almost no tangible change

[undone fable]

wdym?

[eager marsh]

What i said. 2024 ranger already has all the 2014 feaetures that matter

[stuck shuttle]

As Ryunosuke said, a lot of the improvements made to Ranger are already put into Tasha's optional rules or baked into the 2024 class

[sweet swallow]

my table is so annoying sometimes last session everyone but me
got super
drunk and it almost ended in a tpk

[undone fable]

I made some awesome changes if you wanna read it.

[stuck shuttle]

Is it the same document you've posted before?

[sweet swallow]

ive saved our team like 3 times at some point i literally took a spear to the heart and i only survived because i completed a contract

[undone fable]

i have compiled notes for a 3rd document.

[stuck shuttle]

Feel free to post it in #homebrew then

[undone fable]

My homebrew isnt broken.

[lavish flame]

Thats Homebrew yeah, I'd highly recommend it tho.

A 2024 Ranger with Natural Explorer and Favored Enemy ain't so bad

[undone fable]

that reminds me. I made some special weapons for paladins and rangers bc i love both of them.

maybe i should expand that to artificers.

Though I can give the paladin and ranger a blend of cantrips to access.

[lavish flame]

With weapons?

[undone fable]

Its a homebrew thing.

[sweet swallow]

i homebrewed v1 once

didnt play em just made a homebrew for em

[knotty pasture]

Bit unorthodox but bg3 mods actually have lots of decent prompts for homebrewed items

Mostly just combat stuff but it works, I'm also all for introducing bg3 magical items in general into a campaign that way

[hexed belfry]

Can someone look over my Character sheet and see if im doing it right?

[lavish flame]

Nah just, is Artificer the "make a weapon specially for them" class?

[feral fulcrum]

Technically yes

SInce they get a subclass with inbuilt special weapons.

[lavish flame]

I'd think like Barbarian and Fighter and Paladin would fit that description. On that note, how is your Paladin weapon different than a Holy Avenger or Defender?

[feral fulcrum]

And with Infusions you're basically encouraged by default to pick and choose whatever weird personal weapon you want to have

[raw ocean]

I always wondered if anyone plays D&D in VRchat

Imagine pulling up as your character

[tidal bough]

"I HAVE PHANTOM PAIN!" 💀

[karmic mason]

Ya know what series you quite literally can't homebrew into DND at all?

It's Evangelion.

Just because of the insanity that isn the angels.

[tame forge]

BRO OMG!!!!

I want to do this soooo bad now. Wtf.

[raw ocean]

Ikr, it sounds so fun

Oh my god it would be even sicker if there was like whole maps the players could play on while the DM just floated above and narrated

[tame forge]

You could have VR battlemaps with actual 3d enemies.

Breh...

I am soooo in.

[raw ocean]

And you don't even need a VR headset if you want to participate [although it would make it sicker]

Since VRchat works with PC and VR

[tame forge]

I didn't know that.

[raw ocean]

Welp, that was a nice idea

good thing I will never ever put it into motion myself

[glass granite]

Hello soooo in, I’m Nugget

[pale gulch]

Hello I am new

I have no idea

Got interested from stranger things

[hushed mason]

Apparently that's a common theme.

[pale gulch]

How to play

[hushed mason]

You may want to check out #dnd-newcomers

[pale gulch]

Ok

[raw ocean]

I just learned that there's a PBP reddit

My day is going fantastic

[deft pine]

Told my dm I wanted to play chronourgy wizard, since time magic just sounds cool, and it seemed to immediately kill his vibe. Is it super strong or somn

[raw ocean]

It's one of the best sub-classes

[snow zephyr]

99% chance you just found a CR hater

They're super common among older players and they hate anything with the label, regardless of quality

[deft pine]

Cr?

[snow zephyr]

Critical Role

[deft pine]

Oh how so

[snow zephyr]

A lot of older players don't care for the studio D&D vibe

[raw ocean]

It's just a really good sub-class, but it's the DM's job to balance around that usually

[deft pine]

Oh no my friend group that I joined watch partied it way before I got into dnd. Also we are all 16-19

[raw ocean]

Im planning on running a chronourgy wizard based off of Nox from Wakfu

[snow zephyr]

Ah, it's probably a balance problem then

[deft pine]

They reference it all the time and I just sit there like :]

[glass granite]

Actually did not know chronurgy was critical role

[snow zephyr]

Wildemount

[raw ocean]

Best explanation on the power of chronurgy is just search it up

[glass granite]

Ty

[snow zephyr]

Iirc it's like magical quarks or something

[deft pine]

Ill probably so something different, dont wanna be too too strong. Maybe bard minotaur for the sake of it

[snow zephyr]

Min maxing isn't bad if everyone else agrees to it

[raw ocean]

It's only really strong if you abuse it

[deft pine]

College of valour likely

[snow zephyr]

Basically, everyone should be set for roughly the same cr fights

[raw ocean]

Some classes are just hard to exploit or have alot of setup, the reason why chrono get's so much bad wrap is because you can just "lmao Infinitely nest familiars"

Or casting tiny hut with one action

[snow zephyr]

It's a studio D&D design

[deft pine]

Might do like archfey warlock plus a bit of thief rogue for a slippery bastard debuff build

[glass granite]

Play a monk!

[raw ocean]

But arcane abeyance from chrono is crazy

Beginning at 10th level, when you cast a spell using a spell slot of 4th level or lower, you can condense the spell's magic into a mote.