dnd-discussion

[stuck shuttle]

Damn 37 tables that’s impressive, how long have you been playing?

[hot gate]

The ranger in my group does far and away the most work in combat they can be super fun

[ebon dome]

I enjoy dming one shots

[raw ocean]

4-3 years, mind you the first 2 years were mostly just random games every couple of months

[vast pelican]

I think the average time spent playing this game during which you encounter 37 consecutive bad DMs exceeds the time during which this planet has existed.

Oh, I see, you mean 37 in total, both good and bad.

[ebon dome]

I had the same party for 2 years that was so fun

[raw ocean]

All bad.

Well not all bad, some of them were good but immediatly ended due to bad players

[stuck shuttle]

That’s pretty wild, 37 DMs over 3-4 years is almost a new DM every 6 weeks

[hot gate]

That's some extraordinarily bad luck yeah

[vast pelican]

Where are you finding these tables?

[raw ocean]

This server and r/lfg

[ebon dome]

Are u making a new character every time?

[raw ocean]

Yes

[hot gate]

The best groups I found were local tbh

It's a big difference if you can actually talk to someone face to face.

[raw ocean]

Or just adjusting a premade character

[ebon dome]

37 wasted characters is crazy

[ebon dome]

My favorite group was legit across the street

[empty panther]

hey im new
i wanna know if there is a website for play D&D or i need to pay the game ?

[raw ocean]

I live in a small town where everyone's favorite hobby is either hunting or off trailing

[vast pelican]

The basic ruleset is free.

[raw ocean]

Search up D&D beyond

[vast pelican]

You can buy physical or digital copies of sourcebooks like the Player's Handbook.

[stuck shuttle]

Check out #learn-to-play and #dnd-newcomers for newbie help in learning the game.

As for playing online, it can absolutely be done for free. At base all you need is the Basic Rules and a table to play with

[empty panther]

thank you

[ebon dome]

Why is it almost 5am 💔

[empty panther]

ok thanks 🤍

[stuck shuttle]

You’ll usually use some of the following tools for online play:

• D&DBeyond or another character sheet/content hoster
• A Virtual Tabletop (VTT)
• Discord or another communications platform

[ebon dome]

I should sleep, Gn chat!

[knotty pasture]

Druid/Fighter/Rogue I'd say, I'm giving it a try rn and it definitely feels quite nice so far, its not unique by any means but I also don't have any major criticisms towards it

I feel like it has more overall impact than the Echo Knight and Spores Druid at least, it settling fights within 3 turns is incredibly good without costing a resource (and it can fight just as well even if you run out of spell slots)

[humble cairn]

Ranger is one of the two gish classes by default, mixing weaponry and magic in a way that's pretty seamless. They have a spell list that is very versatile and able to cover a lot of different party roles, but still able to bring the martial weapons work when it comes down to brass tacks.

I'm playing a Beast Master right now and I'm very happy with it.

[raw ocean]

Yall think artificer would be good for a wild west campaign [with magic]

[hot gate]

Absolutely. Guns galore.

[lyric idol]

Yes. You can be a quick drawing artillerist, or a gunmaker with a robotic sidekick as a battle smith.

[raw ocean]

Probably going to go with the gun factory build

I wonder which sub-class would be the best for that

[stark arch]

qeustion buying a quiver it comes with arrows right? since i cant find single cost of arrows alone

[hollow ravine]

It's in the PHB. 1 GP for 20 arrows.

The quiver is a separate item that holds 20 arrows for you in an easily accessible location.

[stark arch]

ok thx i fix that right now

[teal agate]

Hi I'm a new player. I'm looking for a party to join if anyone will like to have me I would be most appreciated. All I ask is I would like to play on d&d beyond and use discord voice chat.

[hollow ravine]

See #looking-for-players or #looking-for-dm. I'm also running my own campaign, here: #looking-for-players message

[wispy terrace]

Hey there, am a CoW Druid with 14 Wis & Con as my highest stats, rolled pretty badly (don't mind).

For flavor/background reasons as a Variant Human feat I took Chef.

Playing with fire/healing spells only - what should my Feat progression be roughly? Max Wis via 4/8/12th Feat and on 16 take Warcaster? Or Warcaster first and max ASI after?

Playing as a full caster and (also for flavor reasons) without Wild Shaping into Animals.

Decided against elemental adept originally since it doesn't work on the spirit and I felt like many enemies get fire immunity also - counting on my DM to give some magical items in that regard

[raw ocean]

I wonder if there's a build that can use anything as a weapon

John wick style

[hot gate]

The tavern brawler feat makes you proficient in improvised weapons, so that seems appropriate.

[frail epoch]

Hey 👋

How y'all doing ?

[zenith wind]

I have been reading the "marriage" mechanics and finding out the shenanigans of the marriage-murder-revivify-marry loop has got to be one of the funniest optimizations out there

[limber trail]

bear in mind, it is a good 300gp a head for this to work

[stuck shuttle]

War Caster is mostly useful if you plan on taking a good concentration spell(s). Druid gets a lot of them, but if you’re mainly blasting (with fire spells) and healing then it’ll see diminished usage

[zenith wind]

I am totally going to explain it as a pioneered battlefield tactic my character's heretic father invented in one of his rebellions

[stuck shuttle]

300gp a head for a whole rebel army? They must have a good financer

[zenith wind]

"Before we storm the gates, would anyone like to protest this marriage of 3000 couples?"

[limber trail]

It's a little dubious. Me personally, I probably would just say it doesn't take effect in my games, because it's 100% a use of the mechanics in a way that is not intentional

but also hey, it's your games, whatever works works

[zenith wind]

dude's an insane heretic exploiting his religion for the most political gain, it fits too well for a snippet of his lore

[limber trail]

there is definitely a question of what widowing means in a world where magic can bring you back from the dead

especially if you were gone for one minute or less

[knotty pasture]

Now that I look at it, some backgrounds really are just straight upgrades over another

[zenith wind]

the religion does not have divorce but it does have murder suicide based annulments

[stuck shuttle]

I would assume a big part is that such magic is prohibitively expensive

[knotty pasture]

Urban Bounty Hunter is just Criminal with more flexibility on the proficient skill

[stuck shuttle]

John the Farmer is not working off a revivify diamond in his lifetime

[zenith wind]

who said divorce was cheap

[knotty pasture]

Criminal is Deception + Stealth, UBH is picking two from Stealth, Deception, Persuasion and Insight

[zenith wind]

plus this is an extremely painful process, being you know death. It's very authentic to real life

and now you have a sitcom of a couple in an arranged battle-marriage dealing with the consequences all these years later

[limber trail]

so for context

this costs 1.8 million gold pieces each time

[zenith wind]

but for a temporary burst of 2 ACC per person it's somewhat of a good buff for a peasant army

[dark basin]

Breaking News: Tarrasque dies to CRAZY action economy

[limber trail]

1.8 million gold pieces worth of diamonds being available weekly isn't realistic for a peasant army

[zenith wind]

no you get the buff from the marriage, you reset the buff through the murder-resurrection

[limber trail]

yeah the resurrection costs 1.8 million GP worth of diamonds for 6000 soldiers

[zenith wind]

it would probably be a one time per soldier thing done before important battles or opperations

unless the person was of extreme import they probably wouldn't be 'divorced'

[stuck shuttle]

Add on an extra 25 gp of silver per couple as well, so 75000 gp worth of silver for all the Ceremonies

[limber trail]

each ceremony also takes an hour. If it was a single cleric performing the spell, it would require 125 days of weddings. To get through them all in a day, you would need at least 146 clerics

[zenith wind]

"Why are you stealin all our gold mister-officers?"

"It's called wedding gifts idiot, and it's for the upcoming great battle marriage ceremony. Idiot."

[stuck shuttle]

25 gp is actually a fairly significant amount for the average peasant, that’s like a months income for the lucky person who can afford a modest lifestyle

[old sluice]

Honestly I just think Ceremony should include a divorce option that states the divorced people can never marry someone they were married to ever again

[stuck shuttle]

Eh remarriage is a thing, but I get your point

[zenith wind]

the doomed romance between two adventuring party ex's, coming this summer

[raw ocean]

All bards are forced to pay alimony after divorce, regardless of circumstance

[old sluice]

Here, I'll homebrew it.
Divorce: You touch a humanoid willing to be divorced after benefitting from the wedding effect. It applies to their marriage partner or partners. For the next year, all divorced parties lose 2 points of armor class while they are within 30 feet of each other, and gain advantage on wisdom saves when more than 30 feet away from each other. They can benefit from the wedding effect but never with someone they previously divorced with ceremony.

[zenith wind]

it's probably a good theological system since it forces those seeking divorce to witness their afterlife for a moment before they return forcing them to reflect upon their ways.

[zenith wind]

tactical 30 ft socially distanced divorced divisions

[hot marlin]

I may have said that before but the absence of a divorce option means that there is in-universe an incentive to spousal murder.

[raw ocean]

I would never marry an adventurer because 90% of the time they die

[zenith wind]

wealthy couples murdering each other and remarrying before a battle.

[raw ocean]

Like I genuinly want to see D&D death polls

[hot marlin]

I can just imagine the logic. Want to marry someone else but the magic will not recognize your wedding unless your previous spouse dies?

That just feels like the universe and the gods telling you that you need to murder your spouse.

You know. It's like how just about every country that legalized divorce saw an almost immediate drop in mysterious deaths

[zenith wind]

just sounds like another good grift from asmodeus

[raw ocean]

Still don't understand why people would ever mistreat a loved one, especially if you sleep in the same house as them

that's like asking an illithid for a hair cut

[zenith wind]

"we're getting so many people racking up murder numbers, we are bank rolled"

[hot marlin]

"Until death do us part" may come from good intentions, but in practice it has historically encouraged poisoning, beating people to death, and many other forms of abuse.

[limber trail]

okay so this has prompted a funny DnD shared backstory idea: Two partners who got a fantasy vegas wedding who do not like each other, and they need to suffer one week together before they can get a divorce, and they need to stick together so that they can benefit from the divorce effects

[hot marlin]

I'd advise learning about abusive dynamics.

[raw ocean]

I see.

[zenith wind]

I was thinking this - two soldiers marry for a battle and then survive and have to face the consequences of this

[raw ocean]

Would dispel magic work on this spell?

[zenith wind]

not only do they have ptsd from the battle they now have to find away to both afford a revivify and must suffer death

[limber trail]

two soldiers marrying for a battle is not really what i was thinking

[hot marlin]

Maybe I misunderstood but isn't Praetors's homebrew about inciting the divorced people to stay as far away from each other as possible?

[zenith wind]

2 acc is 2 acc

[frank barn]

im starting a new campaign and was wondering if i should multiclass, like 3 into rogue and 2 into wild magic sorcerer

do u think playing this would be fun? or will i be somewhat underpowered?

[glass granite]

Do three into wild magic, then you can sneak attack by readying and action and quickened spelling a cantrip (like booming blade)

Not optimal in the slightest, but it’s funny

[frank barn]

i like ur thinking, thanks!

[glass granite]

If this were 2024, you’d also be able to get advantage via innate sorcery for free sneak attacks, but I see it isn’t, Tis a shame

[frank barn]

how so?

im not sure which rule sets we are playing with so i gotta check

[glass granite]

Innate sorcery gives advantage on all spell attack rolls.
Booming blade is an attack roll, which gives it advantage, which gives sneak attacks.
And I know you’re playing 2014 cuz you can’t have a subclass before three levels in a class in 2024, and you have a level 2 wild magic sorc

[frail epoch]

Have a nice day chat 👋

[knotty pasture]

Why not Bard Sorc multiclass

[raw sierra]

you too friend

[knotty pasture]

Bard fits the skill monkey thing

[frank barn]

ahh yea i see

[frank barn]

how so?

[patent chasm]

Hello!! I always thought this chat was dead? I guess not

[knotty pasture]

Wdym how so

Bard Sorc multiclass just works

[frank barn]

i mean what benifits does it give

[knotty pasture]

More supportive spell list, like the Rogue its also proficient in a lot of checks

If you want melee stuff you can go Swords or Valor Bard

[glass granite]

No? This is the most active chat on this server

[patent chasm]

Yeah I think my inbox just wasn’t working

[snow agate]

I bet dwarf buildings are rather cozy and surprisingly spacious since you have practically unlimited building area underground, and digging non-comfort rooms wouldn’t require wall or floor construction

[frank barn]

oh yea and using charisma is just both their things as well, how should i build a lvl 5 character for that though? 3 lvls into sorcerer or bard?

[knotty pasture]

Uhh probably need to ask #optimization for this

[frank barn]

ah alr thx!

[inner isle]

what will i be able to play worlock on?

[knotty pasture]

Like any campaign if that's what you mean, very versatile class

[wispy terrace]

Thanks! Will probably go for ASIs first then, at least to +4 Wis

I mean I will also be using Con spells, sure. Since I only use fire/healing roughly half of my spells are con spells

[limber trail]

If you mean the video game announced a few days ago, I think PC, Xbox X/S, and PS5?

Not fully sure but those would be my guesses

[cunning meteor]

I actually think resilient con is better than warcaster

[wispy terrace]

Better than being able to cast a levelled spell as a reaction?

But yeah I've read that on higher levels Res: Con gets better

[limber trail]

Both are pretty good but at lower levels you’ll feel the impacts of War Caster more

[wispy terrace]

Yeah that's what I read also, but maybe Res: Con on higher levels could be better then, it I go ASIs first, since they are rather low

[cunning meteor]

Agreed. But at higher levels resilient con is better. What level does this campaign go up to @wispy terrace?

[wispy terrace]

We don't know yet, but open ended for now, could be all the way to 20

[cunning meteor]

If it could be high level, then I'd personally say resilient con

[glass granite]

-# I say both-

[inner isle]

ok thanks

[cunning meteor]

Wha game?

[wispy terrace]

Thanks! Settled on going to at least 18 WIS for now via 2 ASIs and then going for Res: Con after, maxing Wis to top it off later

[cunning meteor]

Also important. 20 in your main stat is vital

[limber trail]

What class are you playing? What spells are you planning on casting?

[glass granite]

#dnd-announcements message

[cunning meteor]

Oh wow!!

[glass granite]

Cool right?

[versed bone]

Evening y’all, I’m new and I’ve never had an actual campaign so how does one start or where do I find a game?

[glass granite]

Read up on the first few chapters of the free basic rules on #learn-to-play , and feel free to ask any questions you might have.
Once you’re ready and got the fundamentals down, you can check out #find-a-game for information on how to find a group online. To make a post, type the appropriate command in any chat channel.

Oh. And use #dnd-newcomers if you’ve got any questions

[versed bone]

Thank you very much nugget🙏🏾

[glass granite]

No problem, Valentino. Hope to see ya around:D

[cunning meteor]

Very much depends when you're from. I found my current group on Meetup

And my second group on Reddit

[glass granite]

DnD beyond forums, reddit, this server, local games store, library, friend group, Roll20, there’s options

[versed bone]

Well I’m Middle East and dnd is pretty much nonexistent here so I guess EU

[knotty pasture]

Curious about something, how does one decide between choosing ASI or feats in general

[versed bone]

Will check that out definitely

[glass granite]

Well, if I think a feat is cool, and my class can afford losing the ASI, me take
Notably, if my class is monk

[cunning meteor]

Think about what you want your character to do etc. I went Weapon Mastery as my Bard is an epic swords-woman

[wispy terrace]

20 WIS would be by level 12 then, but that's fine I guess, we rolled stats and I'm fine with that. Will take Res: con after then I guess

[stuck shuttle]

Many countries or regions also have specific lfg communities. I’m sure you could find one for the Middle East with enough searching

[wispy terrace]

Circle of Wildfire Druid. Only fire and healing spells. Not wild shaping into an animal due to background/flavor reasons

[cunning meteor]

That circle looked epic when I played a Druid

[wispy terrace]

We only had one session yet but it's so much fun

[cunning meteor]

My current character is a Sword's Bard

[wispy terrace]

Fiery Teleportation is so cool

[cunning meteor]

+11 to persuasion at level 5 lmao

[limber trail]

Honestly, you might be okay only taking one. See how things go but I don’t think you’ll be casting so many critical concentration spells that you need two feats keeping them up

[wispy terrace]

Combining dnd and bg3 I have only yet to play Bard, tried all other main classes. Will defo do in the future

[wispy terrace]

Yeah probably not, will also see what magic items my DM provides me. Maybe I should drop some hints to her to give me some magical items akin to elemental adept 😂

[limber trail]

Honestly if you’re taking a ton of fire spells I’d even just say take elemental adept

[cunning meteor]

My DM let us all take magic items. I got two +2 scimitars hahaha

[glass granite]

Noice

[cunning meteor]

+10 to hit at level 5 😭

[hidden spindle]

Usually, its between two choices:

1. Character design & synergy with class
2. Catered to the DM's playstyle or campaign

[glass granite]

That’s archery levels of to hit bonuses 😭

[cunning meteor]

I like high dex and charisma. Sword's Bard felt ideal

[wispy terrace]

Yeahh I kinda hate that it doesn't work on the wildfire spirit, but yeah, could still take that. Rn I'm feeling maxing my ASIs first

Party composition is gonna be fun, we got another Druid and an Arcane Archer lol

[glass granite]

I like monk

[cunning meteor]

I know. It's bonkers haha! But one of my friends, his rogue has a mechanical gun for an arm lol

[limber trail]

what's your wis score?

[glass granite]

That’s sick

[wispy terrace]

+2 (14), tied as my highest score with con lol

[cunning meteor]

Yeah, this DM is awesome. Super flexible but makes sure everyone is balanced

[glass granite]

I guess he has smt up his sleeve

[limber trail]

oh wow those are some rough stats

[glass granite]

Oof. You rolled?

[limber trail]

yeah I would take an ASI at level 4

[cunning meteor]

He did lol. We thought we were going to die in the last session. The session boss had two phases. We were almost dead after phase one lol

[limber trail]

I assume it's gotta be an all timer bad stat roll

[stuck shuttle]

The last time my DM tried a multiphase boss fight the boss got Bag of Devoured

[limber trail]

that's at best gotta be 12s for all your rolls

[glass granite]

Wow, that session boss was really gunning for him.

[wispy terrace]

Yeah haha (for my backup I rolled great stats, 16/14/16/13/11/9. Thinking Bladesinger next)

[cunning meteor]

Did your DM not put a minimum? We rerolled if we had 74 or lower

[wispy terrace]

Nope, but I'm fine with that, fits into my backstory

[hidden spindle]

Then, between ASI & feat, depends how short the campaign is. Taking an ability score to 20 or two to an even score is huge.

[wispy terrace]

Or rather I accommodated accordingly

[glass granite]

Hi fine with that, I’m Nugget

[cunning meteor]

That's fair. We had a minimum of 75, otherwise we rerolled. It's a standard practice at DnD tables I think

[wispy terrace]

Woah my name is fine with that, fits into my backstory

But it's ait, many people get it wrong

[stuck shuttle]

Fine-With-That, ah so from the Argonian school of having conventions

[limber trail]

Partially based on maths. If I have a really bad main stat I might take a straight ASI (once had a 14 str paladin ;-;) but if my stat is pretty good I prefer a half feat

[cunning meteor]

Yeah, if it fits with your character that's fine!

[wispy terrace]

Yeah will do

[limber trail]

A +1 to your DC and spell attacks is much better than war caster will give you

[wispy terrace]

Thanks, the advice of y'all is much appreciated

I really wonder how long we'll hold out, honestly I don't want to die with this one, loving the concept. But no real frontliner is gonna be rough haha

[glass granite]

I wonder who this “Ya’ll” fellow is, I don’t see their name on this server

[wispy terrace]

They cast greater invisibility

woosh

[limber trail]

No idea who ya'll is, but clearly zimahh was talking about y'all

[glass granite]

Ok imma stop with the bad jokes, I’m going to bed. My bed mimic Ted says hi, plus I need to feed him. See yall tmr!

[wispy terrace]

To bed! Where are you from?

[glass granite]

Guess
No one who knows tell

[wispy terrace]

It's 2 pm where I'm at

Hmmm New Zealand

[hidden spindle]

I don't think its allowed to mention where you may be from

[wispy terrace]

Oh sorry my bad haha

[glass granite]

Nope
Anyway night!

[wispy terrace]

Night!

[glass granite]

Pretty sure you can, though it’s not recommended

[stuck shuttle]

Night Nugget

[glass granite]

Because I’ve already said multiple times on this server, and I haven’t been smited yet

[glass granite]

Night, Star!💫

[hidden spindle]

-# I don't know the extent of information allowable is all

[glass granite]

Me neither tbh
Ok gotta stop procrastinating sleep

[knotty pasture]

Is there any situation in standard array for example where ASI would be worth

[limber trail]

I usually dont take it in standard array

[knotty pasture]

Cuz even for MAD classes my spread's usually just 17/14/14 on the three main stats

[limber trail]

just because i at least have a 17 score

[stuck shuttle]

Country, continent, and/or timezone are all ok according to server rules

[cunning meteor]

If your main stat is 17, then take a half feat

[hidden spindle]

Thank you!

[stuck shuttle]

I’m sure there are edge cases like if you lived somewhere like Nauru or somewhere hella small

[knotty pasture]

Is it worth pushing con (as a SAD class) or int/wis/cha (as a SAD or MAD class) to 16 ever in those situations

Or are feats more worth it

[stuck shuttle]

Feats are usually more worth it imo

[cunning meteor]

Depends on your class. If you cast con spells then 16 con is helpful. Wisdom is important for saving throws. But a half feat is more useful

[knotty pasture]

I was thinking of 16 con just for some extra health lol rather than con saves

And that's fair

[stuck shuttle]

Con saves are the more important half of better con, especially if you have a good concentration spell

[cunning meteor]

Then take tough

[stuck shuttle]

+2 HP/level is nice but monster damage definitely scales a lot more than that

[hidden spindle]

Depends on what you want to do versus the length of the Campaign, and type of Campaign.

I took Observant because the DM had a ton of secret/hidden things and RP, so I Expertised Perception on a Cleric.

[stuck shuttle]

I realize out of context context it seems like a reply to taking Tough, mb haha

[cunning meteor]

Yeah, I know what this DM I have is like. So my second Bard expertise was perception lol

[knotty pasture]

I don't have a specific scenario in mind, it was more along the lines of there being guides for feats but no one really talks about ASI

[candid forge]

Hey, could I describe my character's sword and someone try to sketch a lil sketch of it before I reveal it just to see how well I described it?

[knotty pasture]

And in class guides they'd just take ASI anyways

So either ASI is sleeper good or I'm misunderstanding something

[stuck shuttle]

It’s a very strong default option, if I were to put it summarily

[knotty pasture]

Like for example I took Sharpshooter and Piercer for Ranger so far as they were described as decent feats, but Ranger guides would rush 20 dex by level 8

[cunning meteor]

An ASI in your main stat is useful. You get +1 to attack roles or you save DC etc. That's why half feats are really good

[hidden spindle]

ASI vs feats, is really weighing math versus extra goodies.

Reaching 20 in your Primary Stat early is optimal in your success.

[cunning meteor]

Yup. Agreed

[knotty pasture]

Wait I think I'm getting it now, so almost all feats could be situational by nature, but ASIs just work in general (kind of like the Lucky feat)

[hidden spindle]

And Half-feats on odd scores is both mathematical success & goodies. Then using ASI to top it off, you're golden.

[knotty pasture]

Are MAD classes more reliant on ASIs in general, or is it anything goes too?

Like I was thinking a Ranger would want 20 dex 16 wis for example at one point by taking two ASIs

[cunning meteor]

MAD classes? Lol

[knotty pasture]

It sounds funnier than it should be, I mean Monk/Paladin/Ranger/EK Fighter

[cunning meteor]

Oohh. Multi ability score

[knotty pasture]

Classes that need to stack two stats + Con

[hot marlin]

Multiple Attribute Dependency. MAD.

[cunning meteor]

I got so lucky with my rolls. My Bard had 20 Cha and 19 Dex at level 1

[hot marlin]

Meaning classes that require multiple attributes to function. A wizard only really needs int to function. Dex for AC, Con for HP are for survival not function. Compare and contrast with monks whose base functionality requires wisdom and dexterity. And they need con for HP.

[shy stirrup]

MAD as opposed to SAD - Single Attriubte Dependent
"It's bad to be MAD, and good to be SAD" as has been said

[hot marlin]

Everyone is slightly MAD because everyone requires at least one attribute + Con. But the classes we call MAD are the ones who need at least two attributes + Con

Paladins require strength, charisma and constitution. Therefore, MAD.

[hidden spindle]

They even give us a recommended standard array spreads for each class. With CON never lower than a 12.

[potent prawn]

Can anyone give me an example where Cleansing Touch is useful?

[hot gate]

Ending a debilitating spell on an ally or an empowering spell on an enemy, for example.

[eager marsh]

The latter example is not possible as Cleansing Touch specifies it must be a willing target in 2014 and the feature is gone entirely in 2024, replaceced with Restoring Touch instead

[hot gate]

Ah true, so it's basically for support.

[knotty pasture]

Wait I just realized we skimmed through this

[sly bolt]

hey there, if i'm casting a ritual and i have an arcane focus, i don't need to mess with the materials, right?

[eager marsh]

A ritual doesn't matter, the value of the materials matters

Arcane Foci ccovers any and all Material Components that do not have a listed gold value only

[sly bolt]

gotcha, thanks

[real thunder]

It also doesn't cover things that are used in the casting of the spell

[humble cairn]

You'll want to use the word "consumed" to be very clear.

[real thunder]

Yeah sorry

[buoyant oar]

I've been toying with the idea of taking my normal style or where we tracked food, water days, weather patterns ammo etc. And just straight up removing component pouches and arcane foci. And running a hyper gritty realism campaign where all the components are consumed.

My players like tracking and SIM play.

[still plover]

It's your book to keep!

[stark arch]

how mutch AC does the "Armor Of The Fallen" give. doest say any thing about ac

[eager marsh]

Doesn't sound familiar. Whats this from?

[stark arch]

Source: The Book of Many Things

[still plover]

It's a set of enchanted medium or heavy armour, so one of those.

Whatever the DM says.

[stark arch]

so then wat would my ac be if i where? or is it something like the mithral armor that you combine with normal set like plate or chainmail?

[eager marsh]

if it doesnt say it gives an extra bonus then its just whatever suit the armor is normally

[still plover]

And whatever specific form of armour it is - chain shirt, a breastplate, full plate - is up to the DM. You get the same AC as the mundane version.

[stark arch]

ok thx

[raven kernel]

Hear me out: beast barbarian tortle, it’s literally an alligator turtle.

And a massive racial defence of 17 AC without armour.

[eager marsh]

I wouldnt call that massive per se but it's an option

[raven kernel]

Well, it goes with the massive hp pool of a barbarian plus the tough feat, good luck cracking that shell.

[crimson gulch]

Tortle barbarians rock

[crimson gulch]

I'm on day 5 of my 13 game streak till I'm off for Christmas

[woven flint]

I've had the same idea a while ago, he was gonna be one of my characters in a campaign I joined like.. 6 or 8 months ago but I decided against it lol 😭

Instead, in another campaign, I'm playing a Tortle Knowledge Cleric

He's an old man and a Librarian..
In Waterdeep... 💀

[umbral girder]

Hmm thinking about doing another 4-6 session campaign

But this time give the party a theme to follow

Like “Divinity Unleashed: Play a character with Divine powers and or abilities”

[eternal summit]

💀

[ivory shale]

yow

i played a session of 5e irl, this is my first time playing using the 2024 rules. but ... i dont get how weapon mastery works

[fading plover]

Hello

[crimson gulch]

Each weapon has a specific effect that fighters Rogues barbarians paladins and rangers can take advantage of

[minor cargo]

It's a little unintuitive. I can try to explain it here:

• Every weapon has a "locked" property called a mastery (e.g. nick, vex).
• You can only unlock the property if you have "Weapon Mastery".
• https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/equipment#MasteryProperties
• For an example, you can look at Barbarian: https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/character-classes#Level1BarbarianWeaponMastery
  • "Your training with weapons allows you to use the mastery properties of two kinds of Simple or Martial Melee weapons of your choice, such as Greataxes and Handaxes. Whenever you finish a Long Rest, you can practice weapon drills and change one of those weapon choices."

[ivory shale]

'Your training with weapons allows you to use the mastery properties of three kinds of Simple or Martial weapons of your choice. Whenever you finish a Long Rest, you can practice weapon drills and change one of those weapon choices.

When you reach certain Fighter levels, you gain the ability to use the mastery properties of more kinds of weapons, as shown in the Weapon Mastery column of the Fighter Features table.

so i get three unlocked at the start?

[shy stirrup]

Yes

[ivory shale]

"Whenever you finish a Long Rest, you can practice weapon drills and change one of those weapon choices."

what does this mean?

[minor cargo]

You got it!
You could, for example, pick dagger (simple; nick), long sword (martial, sap), and longbow (martial; slow).

When you finish your long rest, you could change one of these out. For example, you could then switch out dagger for something like greatsword (martial; graze).

[ivory shale]

oh so i was confused . Thought it allowed me to change a weapon's mastery to another mastery lol

[shy stirrup]

Each mastery is hard-locked to the weapon

So you can choose another weapon, to swap it in/out of the 3 you know (at level 1)

[ivory shale]

btw, a mastery can be used every attack right? my GM and the group thinks its once per turn?

[crimson gulch]

Nick is once per turn

And the effects of slow don't stack

[minor cargo]

It'll depend on the mastery. Example:

Cleave
If you hit a creature with a melee attack roll using this weapon, you can make a melee attack roll with the weapon against a second creature within 5 feet of the first that is also within your reach. On a hit, the second creature takes the weapon’s damage, but don’t add your ability modifier to that damage unless that modifier is negative. You can make this extra attack only once per turn.

[crimson gulch]

And if you allready toppled a foe they aren't going more prone If you hit them again but you can topple multiple foes

[umbral girder]

Like a prepared spell you can swap it out

[ivory shale]

thanks guys

joining a campaign at 16th level

[crimson gulch]

We have channels for looking for games

[fossil hollow]

please do not post your age (and specific age ranges arent allowed in #find-a-game

[woven flint]

Don't share your age, it's one of the rules, wouldn't want you to get in trouble

[uneven vortex]

mb

[fossil hollow]

might wanna delete it

[minor cargo]

I wonder if you're allowed to post your age in the form of a riddle?

If you wish to know the age of me, first you must answer my riddles three!

/jk

[umbral girder]

The answer is 3

He said to answer the riddles 3

[ivory shale]

33?

riddle three sounds like thirty three

[umbral girder]

The answer to the riddles is 3

So we go 333 or 9 or 27

[ivory shale]

33

[crimson lotus]

This is sort of DnD related as its for a character im writing

There a music channel for this server?

Anyone got music for writing a thief spy woman oc in the style of like Catwoman and similar characters like Fujiko Mine from Lupin III, Invisigal from Dispatch, Carmen Sandiego, Jane Doe from Zenless Zone Zero, Anne Tamaki / Panther from Persona 5, Vala from AFK Journey, Irma Vep from Les Vampires, etc?

[inner silo]

I got myself some magic items and now i can aurafarm

[woven flint]

Random, but holy heck, I love this feature:

"Positioning. The target knows the location of all other map holders that are on the same plane of existence as itself. When casting a spell or creating another effect that requires being able to see the effect’s target, a map holder can target another map holder regardless of sight or cover, so long as the other map holder is still within the effect’s range."

[inner silo]

Driftglobe is really cool

[weak swallow]

ya girl has accidentally conned herself into learning 3.5e

[inner silo]

Sounds pretty interesting for utility or if you're a buffer/healer then a way to bypass darkness and obscuring effects

[woven flint]

Its a Cartographer Artificer thing, which, is indeed very support heavy

its a very fun subclass from the looks of it

[inner silo]

I mean how do you make someone a map holder

[woven flint]

The subclass creates maps

[inner silo]

Oki. And anyone who touches the map becomes a map holder?

[woven flint]

Hence, Cartography

[valid geyser]

depending on the ruling, they either carry the map on their person or have to hold it in their hands

[woven flint]

Yes, so long as that map stays on their person, they don't directly have to be holding it as far as I'm aware as long as they keep it

[inner silo]

Oo, interesting

[valid geyser]

the second ruling is a lot more harsh and probably isnt intended but the way its worded makes it seem like that

[woven flint]

Yeah, they don't have to hold it

[valid geyser]

i just remember the wording used was vague, where it could be ruled to be either

[umbral stone]

anyone playing some dnd tonight I am trying to learn

[somber mesa]

Do you all think the Background Feats from Dragonlance and Bigby are equal in power to the Origin Feats from PHB, Eberron, and FR?

[umbral girder]

Close enough yeah

[proven mountain]

Check out #looking-for-players for games recruiting players

[somber mesa]

neat, so it's fine to treat them as Origin Feats then?

[stark arch]

what would be best? a Lamp or torch. or Hooded Lantern??

torch only burns for 1 hour

[valid geyser]

torches are the cheapest

[umbral girder]

Sure go for it

If the DM allows it

[stark arch]

6 hours of oil 1sp 1lb 6 hours of light

[shy stirrup]

Assuming enemies may be nearby, or there are random monsters, Hooded Lantern. But as Skittle says, relatively expensive to buy (at low level).

[echo agate]

what do you guys use for DnD sessions? Foundry, Just DND beyond VTT? or anything else?

[proven mountain]

My groups use Roll20 and Discord

[umbral girder]

Roll20 and Discord

Gets the job done and is free

[silk laurel]

Hello

[marble lion]

Roll20 is cluttered and the sheet a bother
Owlbear+pdf char sheet is best

Ive used roll20 in 3 campaigns now and each time it was this weird "its the best weve got" atmosphere with several people pitching alternatives from time to time

And some didnt use the native char sheet

The chat takes too much screen away from the map and the clutter is in the way

[silk laurel]

I don’t speak English sorry

Sorry

[umbral girder]

You could just put the chat in a separate window

[marble lion]

More windows mean clutter and, while open, cover the map

[still plover]

Roll20 and Beyond20, Discord for voice. Or just Discord and DDB, we can see the rolls in the campaign log. I prefer to have something visual for folk to focus on when playing online though.

[stoic haven]

Mornin

[umbral girder]

Morning

[dense scarab]

Hello people

New ish player here looking for a new party/group

[stoic haven]

#looking-for-players

My bad

This would be more helpful

[umbral girder]

#find-a-game is where you go too!

[stoic haven]

Omg, I forgot that was one of the channels Neal

[mild grail]

Does a Circle of the Stars Druid not get a bonus spell list?

[abstract beacon]

So with the new eberron forge of the artificer updates to artificer subclasses and a new subclass, do you think it’s possible that wizards of the coast might finally revive battlerager barbarian in the future ?

[dark pewter]

Neither release of Circle of Stars has had a bonus spell list, no. Likely because they get access to some specific spells baked-in

[sleek cloud]

Ah,battlerager, one of if not the worst subclasses of 5e

[abstract beacon]

I know man it breaks my heart, such a cool concept and aesthetic but terrible execution

[sleek cloud]

I’d rather see a sun soul monk update

[dense scarab]

Thank you 😊

[stoic haven]

Did Fey Wanderer actually get worse in 2024, purely based off the subclass? (No taking into account Ranger feature changes)

[umbral girder]

Not to my knowledge

[umbral girder]

Only 1 change was done

Instead of Dispel Magic they got Summon Fey instead

[stoic haven]

Very minimally changed, but they still got Summon fey, just at 11th level

[umbral girder]

So I guess it just has 1 less spell basically

Everything else is the exact same in the subclass

[uncut zenith]

It’s also hard to say it got better or worse without considering the base class

Like one might look better or worse when the two subclasses are looked at side by side, but when they’re designed to have synergy with their respective versions, it’s like comparing a lime and a lemon and asking which one is better than the other

They’re both good, but at its base they do different things

[regal gulch]

can temp hp bring someone back from being unconscious? 🤔

[woven flint]

Nope

[regal gulch]

darn

[uncut zenith]

THP is just a buffer before you start to actually lose HP

[ebon dome]

Am I lagging or is nobody talking

[idle oar]

Just like a real life conversation, there are lulls

[still plover]

We're jamming in #dm-discussion.

[stark arch]

is bashing a thing in dnd with a shield??

[idle oar]

I think there may be a feat for it? But otherwise I think it's just treated as an improvised weapon attack.

Ah yes the Shield Master feat

[knotty basin]

There’s a feat for it

[stark arch]

found it

using it as an improvised weapon would be 1d4? with no prof added to it right? does this use a bonus or normal action?

[idle oar]

It would be an action to make an attack with an improvised weapon normally

[minor cargo]

This channel is so weird to me. Sometimes I see good conversations, but most of the time it feels like a big ol’ pissing contest.

And the amount of times where my style gets criticized and scrutinized instead of focusing on the person asking for help? Rancid vibes sometimes.

[sleek cloud]

Passing good vibes your way then steve

[turbid vessel]

Yeah, unfortunately a lot of people have it in their head that if someone DMs in a way they wouldn't, then that's the wrong way to DM

[lilac kelp]

Oopsie, me forgetting the gif/emote only response rule.

[somber mesa]

What's your style? I don't read that channel much

[minor cargo]

I feel like it’d start a fight to list the points. Maybe I’ll think of a constructive to frame it later. ✌️

[tired vale]

Is somneone else experiencing weird rolls on DND Beyond? We are playing right now and it acts weird. People role for instance stealth and it appears as something completely different.

It doesn't roll when you click on a stat or weapon.

Several things that are weird.

[minor cargo]

Last week my player was also saying that D&DB dice were being weird but I didn’t see it for myself.

Maybe #ddb-support can help?

[lilac kelp]

I don't know, but sometimes browser extensions interfere with things like that just generally on websites in my experience, that is temporarily resolved by refreshing.

[idle oar]

Also make sure to disable Beyond20 extension as apparently it doesn't currently work with the latest DNDBeyond updates (also we don't provide support for third-party tools like Beyond20)

[tired vale]

It just happened today for several of the party ..

[lilac kelp]

:(

[idle oar]

Well have them hop on over to #ddb-support and we can try and help them troubleshoot. But we first ask that the disable any browser extensions that may intefere with DnDBeyond like Beyon20 and AboveVTT.

[inner silo]

How good is toll the dead as a main damaging cantrip?

[idle oar]

I find fire bolt more useful/usable but toll the dead is not bad.

[inner silo]

Would grabbing a poison spray along it be good?

[sleek cloud]

Toll the dead is decent, good damage when it lands but it’s still a wisdom save

What class cracker

[inner silo]

Necromancer

[sleek cloud]

Like, wizard subclass or homebrew thing

[inner silo]

Wizard

[sleek cloud]

2014 or 24 rules

[inner silo]

24

[sleek cloud]

Nice, with 24 rules then wizards can switch a cantrip out on a long rest so it won’t be too impactful of a decision

Personally I avoid most if not all poison based damage stuff since it’s so commonly resisted and immune

[tired vale]

I like toll the dead more than poison spray but I don't think I've ever succeded in landing one ..

[inner silo]

Alrighty

[inner silo]

Undead have bad wis saves no?

[sleek cloud]

Necrotic damage on undead sounds counterintuitive

[tired vale]

someone more knowledeable should respond to that one ...

[inner silo]

Do skeletons have resistance to it?

[sleek cloud]

Like just a basic skeleton? After looking weirdly enough, apparently not.

[inner silo]

Interesting. I mean, it was designed to do more damage to undead i think

[solar crown]

Good evening, I am new to both the server and the world of role-playing games. I am looking for a GM for a campaign as well as some kind of “introduction.” If anyone would be kind enough to volunteer, I would be delighted. (I am French.)

[compact brook]

do people host d&d games here?

[inner silo]

https://discord.com/channels/516367331358801950/1070720656917938227

[inner silo]

https://discord.com/channels/516367331358801950/966723268675510372

[solar crown]

thank youuuuu

[inner silo]

Also welcome to the server and to dnd!

[solar crown]

thank you for your kindness

where are you from brother ?

[sleek cloud]

Skeleton would be a bad example of what I’m trying to say, which is the broad spectrum of undead creatures you’ll find either necrotic resistance/immunity, poison resistance/immunity, or both

[inner silo]

Ukraine

[solar crown]

look your mp

[inner silo]

Oh i see. What about frostbite?

[sleek cloud]

Cold damage right

[inner silo]

Yup. It does 1d6 and disadvantage on the next attack

[compact brook]

how does the looking for dm part work i cant make one

[sleek cloud]

Con saves aren’t great to target

[inner silo]

Yeah

[sleek cloud]

Essentially, if you’re wanting to damage undead creatures, radiant damage and magical physical weapon damages are good bets

[inner silo]

Is ray of frost good?

[sleek cloud]

It’s decently solid

Slow is a nice rider effect that’s pretty reliable

[compact brook]

?

[sleek cloud]

You might like mind sliver, targets intelligence saves which aren’t all that common, puts a penalty on their next saving throw, and does psychic damage

[inner silo]

Sounds pretty great, though might be a bit hard to flavour as a necromancy ish spell

[eager marsh]

You simply dont. Even Necromancers dont exclusively use necromancy spells. Thats just not how magic works

[inner silo]

Oki

Thanks!

[ebon dome]

Why do some people say dm and others say gm

[proven magnet]

Are their any other feats besides tavern brawler that give improvised weapon proficiently, it kinda sucks, especially when im already playing a monk

The idea for the character is street rat monk and I want them to be able to punch and throw people around.

[eager marsh]

Why would there be another feat to do the exact same thing?

[snow agate]

Dungeon master, game master, it has no real difference except that gm applies to other games too

[eager marsh]

Because D&D legally copyrighted 'Dungeon Master' as a term so every other game legally has to use something else like game master or storyteller

[remote wadi]

Finally got a reply back from my DM

Because of course Paladins can smite from ranges in this campaign

[eager marsh]

They certainly shouldnt

[still plover]

GM is for many other RPGs. DM is specific to D&D, and this is the official server. That's all.

[remote wadi]

Homebrew rule, apparently. To be honest, this many rules for it is starting to be very off putting

[eager marsh]

A homebrew rule to make the already strongest 2014 martial even stronger is a red flag imo

[remote wadi]

Well, there plenty of homebrew rules that seem to make both players and enemies more challenging

Problem is, just about none of them benefits ranger

[cerulean monolith]

There’s a 3rd party spell, Ballistic Smite, that implements ranged smites quite well

[sleek cloud]

Tavern brawler is an amazing feat for a monk

[eager marsh]

generally speaking a game riddled with homebrew rule changes is a red flag for me baseline

[remote wadi]

There aren't many. It's no more than 5 primary ones

It's just how much this benefits just about anyone but Ranger that is the problem

[still plover]

You want to play a ranger?

[remote wadi]

Perkin's Crit seems like a fun way to do high and rapid piercing damage as a ranger, only for the problem that crits on smaller enemies are not that important, while a crit on a big enemy is devastating
Imagine a boss dying in 3 turns mostly because a paladin did almost 100 damage in 2 turns as a level 2

So damage might not be the best route. But I still got some spellcasting up my sleeve, right?
In comes the next one, with spell points replacing spell slots

[woven flint]

How would a level 2 Paladin do 100 damage

[remote wadi]

Close to 100 damage

And it would be from back to back divine smite crits from a thrown javelin (another homebrew rule)

[umbral girder]

Spells and skills and mobility is what the Ranger is known for yes

[woven flint]

Ah, so broken homebrew

[lean wigeon]

something i've always wanted to do in a campaign is a PC who's a ranger's animal companion given sentience and becoming a fully fledged party member, as a sort of idea when my first PC becomes retired from play

[remote wadi]

It isn't that terrible because things like Perkin's Crits apply to both us and them, meaning our Fighter did find out the hard way once or twice just how quickly crap can hit the fan

[umbral girder]

Well Beastmaster companions since Tasha’s are as smart as a person already

[remote wadi]

The problem is that these rules seem to be all fine and dandy... for just about everyone but Ranger

[umbral girder]

So talk to your group about it

[woven flint]

It's still not the best, that's enough to oneshot a LOT of players.
Like.
With Massive Damage rules you'd die instantly at level 2 with crits that insane.

[eager marsh]

perkins Crit rules should not be applies to monsters unless you genuinely want a high lethality game

[remote wadi]

Massive Damage rules?

It applies to both us and them, apparently

[eager marsh]

I know it does. what i said is still true

[woven flint]

When you take damage that more than exceeds your health
You die instantly

[eager marsh]

if you take damage of [Current HP] + [Max HP] in a single damage instance

[woven flint]

I think it's if you take damage equal to twice your hp?

[eager marsh]

Nope if you're already low te threshold is lower

[woven flint]

Or more than as well, obv

[remote wadi]

The rule is there, but it requires twice the Max HP and a failed Con save of DC 14

[eager marsh]

If you have 5 HP out of say, your maximum of 25, then you take 30 damage in a single spell/attack/instance then you die

[glossy mountain]

If you are going to implement house rules to buff crits, at least wait until T2 in my opinion

[lean wigeon]

i'm not in a dnd campaign. mostly just voicing out hypothetical character ideas i've wanted to explore for a while now

[remote wadi]

T2 being level 2?

[woven flint]

Or Tier 3, even.

[woven flint]

No, level 5 is when tier 2 starts.

[eager marsh]

Tier 2 is lv 5-10

[glossy mountain]

tier 2 as in levels 5-10

[remote wadi]

Ahhh

[woven flint]

Because level 5 is the first significant boost in power for D&D classes

[remote wadi]

I assume tiers are based on when the proficiency levels up?

Or is this another thing entirely?

[umbral girder]

No PB level up is its own scale

[eager marsh]

tiers was a category created by AL i think officially speaking to separate groups by levels

[umbral girder]

Tiers of play are in the Player’s Handbook and DMG explaining the power levels of DnD parties and threats they expect to face

[eager marsh]

They are? Neat

[umbral girder]

Monsters follow the tiers of play too as well by Cr

[remote wadi]

Anyways, I doubt it really matters

The homebrew rules themselves don't bother me too much as much as it bothers me that it makes me as a Ranger rapidly outclassed

[umbral girder]

Mostly follows player levels just expanded to have Cr17-30 for tier 4 and Cr0-4 as tier 1

[umbral girder]

Yeah since 2014, 4e also had some, not sure on earlier versions of the game

[remote wadi]

Why need consistent damage when you have AoE and High single target damage that can be casted several times thanks to spell points?

[umbral girder]

4e’s tiers of play was just levels 1-10, 11-20, 21-30

[remote wadi]

Why try to focus on crits when at least 3 of your party members outright do it better, even without a crit?

[umbral girder]

Then don’t

[remote wadi]

It would be a lot easier not to when I have something else to look for/towards

As of now, I don't

[umbral girder]

K

[glossy mountain]

tier 4 being 17-20 always amuses me because it makes sense for spellcasters but martials dont get anything significant at level 17 lol

[raven kernel]

Genuine question (and perhaps this will wreak some sweet chaos)

What is a build with near no downsides that just works and isn’t too overpowered that a DM would ban stuff out of it.

And we’ll call the character: Todd Howards.

[remote wadi]

So yeah. I'm kind of just... stuck being on the sidelines

[lean wigeon]

i personally feel as if 5e is intended to be played between levels 3-12. i think 5e works best in that level range. 13+ is too gonzo, and if i wanted to play a lvl 1-2 adventure in 5e i could just be playing B/X instead or speedrun through those levels

it's nice that 3-12 is 10 levels too. you could do an entire satisfying campaign in that level range

[umbral girder]

Monk gets the highest damage die for their attacks
Fighter getting another Action surge and Indomitable
Barbarian only gets improved Brutal strike.
Yeah looking at it most Martials don’t get too big features (besides Fighter)

[crimson gulch]

High level dnd rocks

[umbral girder]

Rogue only got a dice to sneak attack and a subclass feature

Ranger gets Precise Hunter which I can see as significant. Also 5th level spells

Paladin only gets 5th level spells.

Then again looking at casters they get to cast 9th level spells. But only get to use it once a day

A single use ability that’s strong but is only the once

Probably more significant for short adventures

[eager marsh]

The open beta stopped at lv 10 so that perspective is largely intentional

[raven kernel]

And wizards are honestly all broken in there own way but with low hp, which can be fixed with the spells shield and mage armour.

[lean wigeon]

crazy. i didn't know that. what's the rationale for that

[eager marsh]

Rationale? WotC? Surely you jest?

[lean wigeon]

ahaha

[umbral girder]

Those might help at low levels. But that AC boost gets overrun by level 8+

[frail epoch]

Hey 👋

[eager marsh]

AC largely stops mattering after late Tier 2 unless you are a bladesinger wizard

[umbral girder]

Then AC becomes useless after late tier 3 for blade singers

I will say it’s very fun pulling an Amethyst Dragon on a Bladesinger

Black hole breath using a Strength save

[raven kernel]

And by that time you have polymorph and too many control spells shutting enemies completely off, and actually, level 9 you get 5th level spells, summon dragon.

So wizard is good for those that are creative.

[eager marsh]

thats just going to mess up anyone besides the barbarian anyways

[crimson gulch]

Plus 19 to hit on my cr 30 beasts goes brrrrrrr

[raven kernel]

Honestly my favourite is divination wizard

[umbral girder]

Ah yes Polymorph a single target Wisdom save.
And it’s late tier 2 so hardly any uses in the day

[eager marsh]

+19 is the terrasque so realistically almost nothing besides great wyrm dragons and ancients should have that much to hit

[crimson gulch]

Yes

My several custom cr 30 monsters fit that bill

[raven kernel]

Near death allies is a better use honestly.

[glossy mountain]

and the barbarian is anyways messed up because they’re stuck just throwing javelins at the flying dragon

[umbral girder]

Bladesinger is so amusing because it’s subclass features are hardly every useful for an actual Gish. It’s just to play an a wizard with bigger AC

[eager marsh]

The features are perfectly fine and useful for a gish. The problem is you're still a full wizard.

This is why we need a true 1/2 arcane caster gish base class.

[knotty basin]

Eldritch knight:

[eager marsh]

That's a 1/3 caster nice try

[knotty basin]

What’s the difference

[frank barn]

gng i may have rolled so good for my stats 😭 it was all 19, 19, 18, 11, 12, 12

[snow agate]

Magus fans laughing in the background

[umbral girder]

Spellcasting

[eager marsh]

The rate of spell level/slot squisition

[knotty basin]

Did you roll those in front of your DM

[umbral girder]

Half casters get more spells after all

[raven kernel]

But back to the matter of order, I’d really like your opinion on warlocks clerics Druids and sorcerers

[frank barn]

no but if i need to im 100% willing to do that again

[eager marsh]

I'm not laughing. I'm mad we don't have a Magus equivalent in 5e

[snow agate]

You will probably have to I’m sorry

[frank barn]

Yea i kinda figured, though i trust in my luck

[eager marsh]

No sane dm accepts random rolled stats and more often than not point buy gets used on average

[frank barn]

i dont think i have the capacity to roll lower than an 11

[knotty basin]

Not until it matters :)

[sleek cloud]

How did you get 19’s

[eager marsh]

no no let them learn

[lavish flame]

Agreed. I don't love Eldritch Knight/Hexblade/Bladesinger's implementation. I just want an arcane martial half caster

[frank barn]

im lowkey just lucky

[knotty basin]

A 19 isn’t possible

[frank barn]

how so?

[eager marsh]

Eldritch Knight has most of what I want. But I've been pointlessly shilling a 5e version of the Duskblade from 3.5 for ages

[umbral girder]

Warlocks: pretty complex and it’s low spell slots isn’t an issue realistically

Clerics: What it lacks in utility and mobility it has in relying on a subclass to give them what they want.

Druids: Probably the most balanced class with the 2024 update besides maybe Shepherd.

Sorcerers: The fact their Metamagic applies to magic items is sick and sadly rarely taken advantage of.

[sleek cloud]

Sir. How exactly did you roll those dice lol

[valid geyser]

I assume stat bonuses are factored in

[glass granite]

Hi lowkey just lucky, I’m Nugget
And ye, a Nat 19 for rolled stats before modifiers is impossible

[frank barn]

am i rolling wrong...

[eager marsh]

standard ability score rolling is 4d6 drop the lowest

[valid geyser]

What method are you using

[knotty basin]

Maximum for 3d6 is 3*6, or 18

[eager marsh]

your range of results should be 3-18 with this method

[knotty basin]

Unless your factored in your ability score increases

[eager marsh]

3d6 is for masochists

[frank barn]

wait i was being silly i thought it was d20s

not 3d6

[umbral girder]

Nope. It’s 4d6 and drop the lowest roll

[knotty basin]

It’s 4d6 minus the lowest

[frank barn]

tbf i have never rolled for stats, always point buy

[umbral girder]

You didn’t read the PHB on how to do it?

[frank barn]

cool thx!

[eager marsh]

point buy is superior and fair to all players anyways

[umbral girder]

Or the free basic rules?

[remote wadi]

The highest level for this campaign is level 11
Even that isn't a good sign because even at best, a Ranger/Fighter will not keep up with the other players

[sleek cloud]

I remember someone here had people roll 3d6 in order stats and they got what they got.

[frank barn]

i always assumed it was d20s and nobody corrected me when i talked about it

[eager marsh]

sadism

[valid geyser]

Urizt in their toa hardcore iirc

[knotty basin]

Before or after picking a class?

[umbral girder]

Yeah 3d6 in order is how I like to do it when I get a chance

[raven kernel]

Question about clerics, the complaint about utility I hear often and I just don’t get it.

With access to, guidance, bane, bless, aid, and aura of life. And with the ability to switch out spells from the entire cleric spell list.

[sleek cloud]

For the fun of it I’m gonna roll that and see what I get

[umbral girder]

I’m more of a “learn about the character I am playing” than making one early

[crimson gulch]

Yes, fantastic campaign

[umbral girder]

Yeah that’s mostly support and control and not utility besides maybe guidance

[haughty prism]

I got a little question. Am I forced to use my own voice during sessions? I am not thrilled to use my own voice.

[snow agate]

By utility people mean the ability to approach situations from different angles. Most clerics aren’t good at that, they tend to be a very direct approach class

[snow agate]

Idk how you’d use other people’s voices to say what you want

[frank barn]

OK i am back and now i rolled 13 16 8 11 10 17

[remote wadi]

Mind you, spellcasting is not something I can contribute towards with 3 dedicated spellcasters and 1 hybrid spellcaster who has a delete button

And with spell points, this is dialed up to 11

[knotty basin]

I felt the same way starting out, but I changed my mind. You just need to find a good group

[sleek cloud]

13 str, 15 dex, 15 con, 18 int, 12 Wis, 11 charisma…in order.

[crimson gulch]

You can use any voice you can bring

[lean wigeon]

ur supposed to roll it during group character creation where everyone can see your rolls

[haughty prism]

Of course. But of course, being forced to use my own actual voice is my personal dealbreaker and something that cannot be taken lightly for me.

[knotty basin]

Why not?…

[frank barn]

ah alr though i dont think the dm minds tbh

[sleek cloud]

Better to ask them just in case

[raven kernel]

Wizard? You rolled for stats cuz it’s a bit higher than 27 rule.

[knotty basin]

Does your mouth shoot lasers when you talk?

[remote wadi]

So... how boned am I exactly?

[snow agate]

I understand the insecurity issue but unless you’re playing a text-based game you’re gonna have to talk to play dnd

[haughty prism]

That I cannot explain.

[knotty basin]

It is not that bad

[sleek cloud]

That was the 3d6 only and in order that I brought up earlier, just for fun at least

[umbral girder]

To clarify utility is being able to solve problems that are not combat focused.

[knotty basin]

Ok, then how are we supposed to help you

[snow agate]

They do have some useful tools tbf, but they’re mostly socially oriented

[haughty prism]

Or I could go around such things and come up with a player character who is mute.

[snow agate]

Yeah but you’ll still have to talk as a player to your other players and dm

[knotty basin]

How are you going to tell the DM what you’re doing in your turn?

[raw sonnet]

Is it a good idea to turn on megalovania when my players are fighting a skeleton army?

[knotty basin]

No, it will be distracting

[lean wigeon]

i suppose a bit of a fun fact i discovered recently
Standard Array represents the average array you would roll with roll 4d6 drop lowest. On average, if you roll 4d6kh3 6 times, your highest roll in the array would be ~15 and the lowest would be ~8

[ebon dome]

Dnd is physically impossible without communication

[haughty prism]

If it is online, then I could write something.

[crimson gulch]

The game is a conversation that we share and weave into a wonderful shared experience, that conversation is most often out loud, but can be text bases in writing as well

There's a difference between speaking in charicter and describing your actions though

[umbral girder]

Nah. Thats saved for 1 super skeleton

[raw sonnet]

My players are always listening to music during our sessions, they'll be fine

[umbral girder]

Spooky scary skeletons is for groups of skeletons

[knotty basin]

No table is going to accommodate you unless it’s already text-based

[raw sonnet]

spooky scary skeletons won't make them scared

[remote wadi]

So, I tried bringing up the homebrew rules to my DM

And all I really got from that is "You're not changing my mind, we tried to tell you to look at what you can do"

[knotty basin]

And there are very very few text-based tables

[umbral girder]

Neither will Megalovania

[raw sonnet]

I doubt I'll ever get to throw sans at them

[remote wadi]

Which, for context, there are homebrew rules that more or less invalidate almost everything I can do as a ranger

[haughty prism]

Can text-to-speech based voices work?

[sleek cloud]

What are you talkin about bloodline

[raw sonnet]

It will cause them PTSD

[umbral girder]

Then leave it at that

[haughty prism]

Sure I will have to type it out but I am used to it.

[raven kernel]

(Just my take, very good wizard stats, raise con with 1 point with taking a feat and it’s near perfect)

[umbral girder]

If you want a game with different rules then DM your own game.

[rough basalt]

Some tables might be fine with text to speech but I wouldn't expect it.

[remote wadi]

You ever had one of those times where homebrew rules or a game you played had every other person do what you do and better?

[snow agate]

No

[sleek cloud]

(That’s totally what I would do if it was rolled for a legit character and not just an experiment for in here, kinda wish I kept those though since they’re pretty insane for not even being the standard rolling method)

[knotty basin]

We need to know what your deal is to actually give you an answer

Why can’t you speak at a table

[haughty prism]

Basically I am trying to find alternative ways to speak without needing to use my own voice

[knotty basin]

Yeah but why

[glass granite]

Some people aren’t comfortable sharing their voice online

Me included

[crimson gulch]

You may be able to find an accommodating table, you may not, only way to find out is to go look

[knotty basin]

I wasn’t either, I did it anyways and loved it

[sleek cloud]

It’s the quickest way to find out that one of yall is really Morgan freeman

[snow agate]

Got so lucky last time, got an 18, 17 , 16, 14, 12, 10. Went with a wizard because I didn’t wanna abuse a mad class

[remote wadi]

Well, this is more or less me seeing that I am just about entirely out classes by every other player because homebrew rules boost their effectiveness heavily, but I don't get the same degree of help as a Ranger

[vast pelican]

You'll need to make sure that the table understands and is ok with you only interacting via text.

There aren't a lot of tables where that is within the scope of accommodation.

[glass granite]

More so cybersecurity reasons I think, plus confidence

[sleek cloud]

Man, I would’ve loved that for monk

[soft hare]

Hey chat
What bardic inspiration do y'all have that is equal parts inspirational and equal parts roast?

[snow agate]

I was really strongly considering it for a bard

[knotty basin]

I don’t think you can be identified with just your voice.

[glass granite]

“Congratulations, you’re meeting expectations!”

[raven kernel]

Pardon me, but how jacked is that barbarian or fighter you got there? And damn agile too.

[umbral girder]

The only table perfect for you to play is the one you DM. You will only get compromises for games you join as a player.

[crimson gulch]

I made a Valor bard that had the cadence of the soldier from team fortress 2 "you can do better than that you maggot!"

[snow agate]

Xd

[umbral girder]

Because as a player your experience has to be scaled with the entire group.

[stray sage]

how good of a spell is chill touch (2014)?

[remote wadi]

I'm supposed to focus mostly on Ranged damage and spellcasting, but can do neither one effectively

Ranged damage is outclassed easily because Paladins can smite from a range with no penalty

Ranged damage, spellcasting, healing, and other support spells are close to nonexistent for me, but are overflowing with our Cleric, Bard, and Wizard thanks to the spell point rule

[knotty basin]

Depends on the setting

[sleek cloud]

2014 chill touch is solid I feel like

2024 however…

[vast pelican]

It's not great, not terrible.

[umbral girder]

The only notably thing with Chill Touch was how it kills the Mythic bosses from Theros

[snow agate]

You’ve said this a lot, is there something we can help you with or do you wanna just get it off your chest?

[soft hare]

@crimson gulch Mean things are to be expected from positions like soldiers
Something like that is what I'm leaning more into ☝️

[umbral girder]

Because their Mythic form says “they regain hit points” so you can just skip phase 2 with Chill Touch

[crimson gulch]

Yep

[sleek cloud]

Can’t believe they allowed ranged smites for the paladin

[stray sage]

that is pretty funny

[umbral girder]

A detail so amusing they fixed that with later Mythic Monsters like Tiamat and Bahamut saying “Their health resets to 500 hp”

[remote wadi]

I mostly wanna get it off my chest, if I'm real with ya

I'm trying my best to be optimistic about this, but it just isn't getting anywhere

[soft hare]

Something tells me you have underhanded roasts

[snow agate]

Ok good luck

[remote wadi]

And at level 11, they can cast the delete button at the third level 6 times if they wanted to

[crimson gulch]

I have everything, I run so many sessions

[lean wigeon]

i would talk to your DM and the other players about it

[soft hare]

Gimme inspirational roasts

[umbral girder]

He did

This is why I do long adventuring days

[glass granite]

Like, if 3d8+2d6+28 isn’t making you feel optimistic, you really should bring it up

[remote wadi]

Tried that already, I was told more or less "Nothing you say will change my mind. We already told you what to do (focus on what you can do), but you keep complaining"

[glass granite]

Wel-

[crimson gulch]

I was in a situation like that, left and never looked back

[sharp shale]

Hey are there any campaigns with space for 2?

[crimson gulch]

Now i have a hard line against homebrew, I run raw games

[remote wadi]

If this is that damage formula you told for myself, I'll remind you that it doesn't pan out that well vs what everyone else can do

This goes beyond envy and delves into "I'm close to useless now, am I?"

[umbral girder]

Reason I like doing very long adventuring days because it soon does not matter if someone can “heal better”. Because that is a very limited resource you desperately need more of.

[glass granite]

That’s more damage than a paladin by a mile by your level tho? Granted it’s for one turn

[umbral girder]

Anyway bloodline you should just look at things you can do that aren’t combat related

Combats is only 1 out of the 3 pillars of play after all.

[glass granite]

That too, rangers have a ton of utility, namely expertise

[umbral girder]

Or do something that isn’t damage too.

[remote wadi]

I've already tried that and said in chat how that went. Spellcasting is not going to be great either because of the spell point rule

[sharp shale]

Where to find dm

[glass granite]

Here, you can check out #find-a-game for information on how to find a group online. To make a post, type the appropriate command in any chat channel.

[umbral girder]

And? I don’t see how that gets in your way.

[remote wadi]

And points for trying to say that spells like Goodberry are useful and unique for me, but that doesn't exactly make my character's existence sunshine and rainbows

[umbral girder]

That just means you also can cast more low level spells.

[glass granite]

Plus, expertise takes no spells

[umbral girder]

Why worry about having a unique spells?

[glass granite]

You’re a gloomstalker, I’d be worried if your character was sunshine and rainbows

[remote wadi]

That is also a lie. Spell points means that our wizard, Bard, and Cleric can cast high and low level spells as freely as they have MP for it (which is a lot at 47MP each for level 11)

[umbral girder]

And? They just run out spamming bigger spells

[remote wadi]

They can cast cantrips and smaller spells on smaller enemies

[glass granite]

And you can shoot enemies

[umbral girder]

And? I still don’t see the issue

[glass granite]

Same here

[remote wadi]

If our eventual level 11 Wizard really wanted to, they can cast fireball 15 times before needing to long rest

[umbral girder]

And?

[remote wadi]

And I'm saying this because spell points means that they can be as damage dealing or well rounded as they would like with close to no drawbacks

[umbral girder]

Yeah and run out very quickly

[lean wigeon]

is the issue that your GM is giving the other players preferential treatment by making homebrew rules that benefits them while not receiving the same treatment yourself?

[remote wadi]

Compare that to me being level 11 and having a maximum of... 19 MP with third level spells being the highest I can cast

[glass granite]

Well you’re a half caster

[remote wadi]

Vs 3 spellcasters with 47 MP and 6th level spells as the max

[glass granite]

That’s, like, to be expected

[umbral girder]

You wouldn’t have 19 spell points at level 11

[remote wadi]

4 points for 4 level 1
6 for 3 level 2
And 9 for 3 level 3

4 + 6 + 9 is 19

[umbral girder]

Not how that works

[remote wadi]

Well, it is how it works for this campaign

[umbral girder]

You would have 38 by level 11.

[remote wadi]

Just called mana points

[vast pelican]

Clearly you don't like ranger, so just play something else.

[umbral girder]

If you don’t like the game you can just play a different one as well

[remote wadi]

There is nothing else. Everything else that is remotely useful is taken

[umbral girder]

Nothing keeping you there.

[remote wadi]

It took me 2 months to find this one campaign, and I had to pull a few strings to get there

And the rest of the 2 months was ghosting, rejection, and being verbally torn apart by a few DMs who loved to harass and bully new players

[umbral girder]

So?

[ebon dome]

It took me a month to find a campaign and it was horrid so I left, if you aren’t enjoying something it’s better to just leave than not have fun and not enjoy your role in the party

Just because it took time to get doesn’t mean it’s valuable

[remote wadi]

So I've accepted my weakness is the sunken cost fallacy because my options can be counted with 1 finger

[chilly narwhal]

Hi!

[glass granite]

Gooooood morning afternoon evening, Wahzzup!

[umbral girder]

Just make your own group

[remote wadi]

What even IS my role that some other people can't already do I their sleep?

[umbral girder]

Host a game that’s like 3-4 session long. Now you have a group to play with.

[chilly narwhal]

I’m also on the hunt for good dnd groups (I’m already in one that is amazing)

[umbral girder]

Would take just as long hunting for a group but you still get to play by running very small games

[glass granite]

Expertise, ungodly high first round burst, skill proficiencies (a lot), and a lower dependency on resources

Plus, gloomstalker cool

[remote wadi]

Expertise being double proficiency?

[glass granite]

Ye

[ebon dome]

Insane amount of proficiency and having burst dmg

[remote wadi]

And first round bursts... idk, it doesn't seem that impressive for now, but I'll believe you

And I spent all that time talking about our team composition and homebrew rules to try to explain how resources are close to overflowing for the ones that rely on it

[umbral girder]

Also high mobility compared to everyone else

And clearly stealth based on the previous convo

[remote wadi]

Our first 3 sessions were in the Death House in Curse of Strahd

[umbral girder]

Gloomstalker is the strongest in terms of stealth

[chilly narwhal]

I have a fun question. What is everyone’s favorite kind of party?

[ebon dome]

Also ability to have things like info on what your fighting before you do with things like favored enemy and primeval awareness

[glass granite]

Nearly 50 damage in one turn on average for a first level spell is pretty sweet, idk

[umbral girder]

That’s the old (and rather bad) 2014 PHB version

[glass granite]

One where people actually care for the game, and respect the DM. That’s all I need.

[chilly narwhal]

Mine are the ones where the game is more limited, but everyone is having fun and having a specific dynamic/thing for the game

[glass granite]

42 roughly without

[vast pelican]

I've played in combat one-shots, one of them with a gloomstalker ranger. I nearly beat out everyone else. It is demonstrably not "useless" in combat, and half the class is about an entirely different pillar.

[wispy terrace]

No one knows each others classes or anything else about it each other beforehand, make it immersive (unless they, due to background, know each other of course)

[chilly narwhal]

I love games where everyone is invested and there’s a good amount of roleplay/plot

[remote wadi]

I don't see how. For moving as an individual, we have a Goliath Rogue for that (don't ask, I wouldn't know)
For moving as a team, we have about half of the team who wouldn't care about stealth

[glass granite]

Peak dnd right here

[ebon dome]

One where everyone knows what they are doing, but don’t try to make a very broken character with a tiny bit of homebrew

[remote wadi]

I know Gloomstalker is strong with stealth, just not how I can leverage that

[glass granite]

Flank from a dark place, barrage people with bullets/arrows

[umbral girder]

Is it obvious?

Can’t be targeted by spells if you can’t be seen.
Can easily scout or steal things.
And of course surprise enemies.

[remote wadi]

That currently are lucky to do more than 10 piercing damage

[umbral girder]

Getting surprise helps get rid of key enemies fast

[chilly narwhal]

Oh wow! That’s very different than what I enjoy. I love it when everyone has come together beforehand and made characters who work well together so the group can be invested in each other’s characters and have more congruent stories and lore. It’s so cool how differently everyone likes to play!

Maybe I should try that sort of thing some day!

[glass granite]

You took sharpshooter, use it. You have spells, use them.
Ophid’s point was that missing doesn’t help, but if you have advantage then it is absolutely worth using it.

[glass granite]

Huh, that’s…a unique opinion

Many people have an entire session dedicated to making sure that doesn’t happen

[wispy terrace]

I mean yeah from a background perspective that's lovely! Never tried that, we've finished our first campaign of a year a couple weeks ago

But even if the PCs know each other I prefer not to "optimize" a party mechanically, e.g. just cause one is a Paladin doesn't mean noone else can be - in fact all could

[wispy terrace]

We have an Arcane Archer, a Wildfire Druid (me) and another Druid lmao

[glass granite]

Noice

[umbral girder]

Cool

[wispy terrace]

Also I died in today's session because we got very unlucky, but got reincarnated as an Half-Orc. So yeah that was fun

[remote wadi]

Isn't stealth tossed out the window the moment you actually attack someone?

Also, I can't exactly tell you how I can make stealth work when most of our combats so far were in a 4x5 area tops when actually getting to said enemies means they already see me or might as well have

[vast pelican]

I enjoy a party where everyone gets a chance to shine, and where characters come to the table with preexisting bonds and desires.

[glass granite]

If the enemy can’t see you, you still have advantage no?

Plus, skulker next level

[chilly narwhal]

No dnd class is going to be good at everything. Find your niche. You aren’t playing a ranger, you are playing a ranger character who does their own thing.

For example, I’m currently playing a character who is physically pathetic, agile as a tank playing the national anthem at max volume and with the charisma of a venomous toad. But he’s a great doctor and is incredible at getting out of locks and creative solutions.

[remote wadi]

As in, by the time the combat starts, I am already in melee range of 2 or more enemies

[glass granite]

That…might be on you

[lean wigeon]

i really like pig orcs better than the green warcraft orcs

[umbral girder]

If they can’t see you they can’t cast many spells at you
You also will have advantage on attacks and they have disadvantage.
Plus good if you need to run away

[vast pelican]

I struggle to believe that the largest combat map you've been on is 4x5 tiles.

[remote wadi]

To say that literally all of our combat locations were cramped is the understatement of the month

[olive wind]

Either horrendous DM or your fault.

[umbral girder]

So get out of melee

[chilly narwhal]

I agree! I don’t like to optimize, I just like to know lore. Sometimes your entire party ends up being unable to throw a punch or have a half-way intelligent idea.

[glass granite]

Lore is PEAK. I also love to see how DM’s tie the lore into the world

[vast pelican]

The smallest combat map I've been on is easily 5 times that size.

[remote wadi]

Again

Our 3 sessions so far have been in the Death House in Curse of Strahd

[gloomy moon]

i found something on D&D Beyond Homebrew called 'cup of hot chocolate'... I am not disappointed! (https://www.dndbeyond.com/monsters/3147886-cup-of-hot-chocolate)

[wispy terrace]

Yeah definitely! We're really trying to get better at RPing now

[chilly narwhal]

Me too!

[unborn shell]

Anyone have any tips on getting started with dnd?

[remote wadi]

In other words, inside a house in very tight tunnels and small rooms

[wispy terrace]

Getting turned into a half orc was crazy for that lol

[vast pelican]

Oh god, the Death House?

[glass granite]

Then you’re just out of your habitat. You’re a ranger for sakes sake.

[gloomy moon]

idk... I'd reccomend that you watch videos and walkthroughs...

[remote wadi]

Yes. The Death House. Get the picture?

[umbral girder]

And?

[vast pelican]

How have you spent 3 whole sessions just in there?

[umbral girder]

Meaning you have plenty of stealth opportunities

[unborn shell]

Oh wait i should've specified, like tryna start a campaign with others 😭

[glass granite]

Well, actually
Kill the lights everywhere, you’re the silent, swift and unseen death archer

[chilly narwhal]

Have you thought about using your ranger abilities to avoid combat/to find hiding spots.

[gloomy moon]

I remember when I played in The Death House... I willingly let one of the kids possess me

[glass granite]

Read up on the first few chapters of the free basic rules on #learn-to-play , and feel free to ask any questions you might have.
Once you’re ready and got the fundamentals down, you can check out #find-a-game for information on how to find a group online. To make a post, type the appropriate command in any chat channel.

[chilly narwhal]

I usually just find a dm and meet new people!

[unborn shell]

Oh thx!

[olive wind]

Finding a campaing has lowk been too hard lately.

[unborn shell]

That, also works 😭

[glass granite]

Gotta love being a DM, it’s much easier to

[unborn shell]

I've had this idea of a homebrew campaign to dm but I've never dm'd before 😢

[crimson gulch]

Ah so hype, I'm on session 5 in my my 13 day streak of games before I'm off for Christmas,

[remote wadi]

First session was getting there and exploring floors 1-3 (and getting possessed for the crime of leaving a room first)
Second session was exploring the basement and getting ready for the boss
Third and most current was killing the boss and escaping

[umbral girder]

So get some practice

[olive wind]

I'm a DM as well but organising can be tiring and honestly I enjoy being a player more anyways.

[chilly narwhal]

I’ve dmed, if you’d like a co-dm !

[glass granite]

Hi a DM as well, I’m Nugget!

[umbral girder]

Things are easier when you just DM short campaigns.

[inner silo]

Are there any decent necromancy spells for level 2 and 3?

[umbral girder]

Don’t need to do the big thesis style games the modules currently have

[glass granite]

Level 2 and three spells or characters

[chilly narwhal]

Me and my friends (who I usually play with but personal things happened to one of them) just swap between me and the other dm for campaigns.

[olive wind]

Things I need in life:

1. A billion dollars
2. A loving wife and family
3. A cool endless D&D campaign with a close-knit group of friends

[remote wadi]

Allies just stumble into fights. Plus, DM and a few others keep saying it's my fault for "splitting up from the party"

And again, I don't know how I can find a place to be stealthy in the middle of a 5 foot tunnel with 3 people with heavy armor

[umbral girder]

Ray of sickness for a helpful debuff or False life to protect yourself.
Cause fear for another style of debuff and control

[inner silo]

Level 2 and 3 spells, mb

[glass granite]

Don’t forget food and water

[unborn shell]

Fair enough

[olive wind]

the billion dollars will take care of that

[glass granite]

Revivifyyyyyyyy

[unborn shell]

Peak

[glass granite]

That is a spectacular point

[wispy terrace]

I dm'ed once for friends and told them beforehand it's just gonna be 3-4 sessions

Was very refreshing and took the pressure off of worldbuilding/delivering for me

[unborn shell]

I'd rather be a player for now though 😅

[umbral girder]

Best recommendation I have is to just run campaigns that’s 4-6 session long

[inner silo]

Give me a second

[umbral girder]

Really helps with burnout

[unborn shell]

Oh thanks!

[olive wind]

For me preparing a world and writing a story tends to be more interesting than actually running the campaign anyways. I always end up kinda tired by session 6-8 and want to move onto newer things.

[remote wadi]

If this was referring to me
Paladin kept casting light on the bard. Making matters worse, I was the only level 2 character who did not have dark vision

[chilly narwhal]

Dnd is the most fun when you know all the players beforehand.

[wispy terrace]

Fair haha

[valid geyser]

I felt that. I change how I worldbuild so I avoid world building fatigue

[glass granite]

I mean from now on

If you’re ever in a situation like that again, kill the lights

[inner silo]

It's not on the wizard spell list sadly

[olive wind]

This is true. Especially when you know each other's sense of humour.

[glass granite]

You didn’t specify

[unborn shell]

LOL TRUE

[inner silo]

Sorry, mb

[rough basalt]

The top 2 are more probable than the 3rd

[glass granite]

THIS

[remote wadi]

Sure, but I'm hoping this doesn't result in either the enemies getting the jump on me

Or half my team doing their best Leroy Jenkins impression

[glass granite]

You have darkvision no?

[chilly narwhal]

If I were you, I would just roleplay as the incompetent one and take notes for the party and make them do the fighting as a bit

[olive wind]

Unfortunately

[remote wadi]

I have it now, but I was the last one to get it

[olive wind]

God I have a cool idea for a D&D character that's heavily inspired by hellboy but at this rate I'll never be able to run it

[glass granite]

Hence, in the future

[umbral girder]

That’s why I recommend the 4-6 session campaigns. Think of it similar to dating, you are testing the players and see how you all get a long with each other.

[chilly narwhal]

My dnd group has been together for what uh 3 years and we used to play 3 times a week

[glass granite]

But don’t date all your players, that’s concerning/j

[umbral girder]

If it doesn’t work out after a few tries, well the group won’t be together that long.

[glass granite]

Ok I envy you

[crimson gulch]

Nah, I have met so many new freinds through dnd, if I had stayed to who I knew beforehand I would barly be able to play

[olive wind]

already tried to join 2 online campaigns only for John DM to ditch twice

[wispy terrace]

I'm envious, we manage 0,5-1 times per week

[chilly narwhal]

I agree! I just mean before session 1 lol

[remote wadi]

And most of the combat I had so far was

1. A banshee immune to nonmagical piercing damage
2. A boss who i couldn't hit for meaningful damage to save my life
3. Shadows from someone taking a crystal sphere that didn't just practically surround me, but were also resistant to nonmagical piercing damage

[crimson gulch]

Also disagree, I have new players joining all the time

[glass granite]

I envy you too 😭

[chilly narwhal]

I’m here looking for more dnd friends as my group is not able to play until college midterms are over

[wispy terrace]

Envy chain

[umbral girder]

K

[glass granite]

Ask your DM for a magic weapon

[inner silo]

You're playing a martial I'm guessing?

[glass granite]

2014 Ranger

[olive wind]

as a high school student graduating with an acute case of senioritis and too much free time with friends who take their studies 20% too seriously I need a D&D campaign yesterday

[wispy terrace]

We will be doing an in person sesh though soon, excited

Also I need to make a back up in case I die again lol

[remote wadi]

Working on that for when I can get my hands on a magic hunting rifle

[inner silo]

Ah, ok

[wispy terrace]

Already rolled great stats

[rough basalt]

Yeah it's been idk how long since I last played dnd

[chilly narwhal]

We still hang out, but it’s mostly just doing silly things

[umbral girder]

Hopefully I can fix that this Tuesday

[glass granite]

I…dunno if you’ll be able to do that soon. Those things are PRICEY, even when they’re not magical.

And from what I see, you need a fix fast.

[remote wadi]

Ranger. With almost OP levels of homebrew rules (that I mostly don't benefit from)
And with classes that do just about everything I can do, if not better

[ebon dome]

The last time I played a real game of dnd was a couple years ago

[chilly narwhal]

Me too! I have way more free time than most people

[glass granite]

I half agree with the former, disagree with the latter

[glass granite]

Perkins crit also benefits you, after all

[rough basalt]

I need to roll d6s bad

[chilly narwhal]

Or me forcing one of them to do their schoolwork <3

[olive wind]

I guess I just don't have to study as much as others to get good results or something along those lines because I have much more free time than I know what to do with.

[inner silo]

Doesn't sound too bad tbh. I feel like you not being able to hurt enemies is more on the dm for making them intangible to your attacks imo, unless they talked about it before the game

[remote wadi]

Remember: level 11 paladin can click a 3rd level delete button 6 times after a long rest

And spellcasters who rely on saving throws over attack rolls can get technical crits if the enemy gets a nat 1 saving throw

[glass granite]

Are you level 11 yet?

[inner silo]

You play with critical 1s?

[chilly narwhal]

Me too! I don’t study 😭😭

[glass granite]

Cuz that’s MONTHS into the feature
Deal with what you have now

[chilly narwhal]

I mean I read all the material and become obsessed with the lessons/subject, but I don’t just read the same chapter 18 times and highlight things at random.

[remote wadi]

I am aware, but this is also virtually my only way out of this mess

I did have a third level 1 spell slot available that I used to return our wizard to consciousness... that our Bard effectively wasted by talking crap to Strahd himself and taking 5 slashing and 18 necrotic damage as a nonlethal hit

[olive wind]

Similar with me. I feel like I can understand and (more importantly) apply concepts efficiently.

[valid geyser]

I didn’t think I’d ever be trying methods to age paper so I can write an in character paper
I’d use a quill and ink but that’s 13 bucks I’d rather not spend so I’ll just use a calligraphy pen

[remote wadi]

Yep...

[olive wind]

do the coffee method and caligraphy pen

[chilly narwhal]

Yes!! Also what kind of campaigns do you like?

[remote wadi]

Just hit level 3 and finished the Death House

[valid geyser]

Yup, I’m using coffee