dnd-discussion

[grizzled plank]

I feel like there has to be a video comparing them

[buoyant oar]

Drizzt do'Urden is the main characrter in the 40 Book Series, the Legend of Drizzt.

[timid current]

sure, go check out youtube

[buoyant oar]

Fighters can be just as effective with Bows.

[unreal halo]

samurai sharpshooter fighter

[grizzled plank]

From what I’m getting fighter= more versitile

[unreal halo]

with elven accuracy

[grizzled plank]

Historically accurate samurai lmao

[buoyant oar]

Rangers are also just as effective with melee combat, they are not locked to ranged only combat.

[unreal halo]

it's also doing stupid dmg

[grizzled plank]

With rangers I expected that last time I played a ranger I had them as a more up close fighter

[buoyant oar]

Take Minsc from the Baldur's Gate games, a Rashemaar Berserker with a big sword.

He is a Ranger.

[slow flower]

hey im just curious, i'd like to make a mounted fighter type character that isn't a Paladin. Are there any items that could allow me to keep charges of Find steed or any other reliable way to recieve a mount?

[buoyant oar]

you can buy a mount from a stable. Prices are in the PHB.

[knotty basin]

This is heavily DM-dependent

[buoyant oar]

If your DM is so handwavey to not allow the purchase of mounts tbh I would run.

[slow flower]

yeah that i know of, and i am part of the Lords alliance meaning i can get a free steed when i get to town according to the 2024 background or feat. was just curious if there was a reliable way get one back or have a scaling one

[buoyant oar]

That is a level of loosey gooseyness that I don't wanna partake in

[knotty basin]

What if there’s not a stable nearby? Also not all DMs use the prices from the PHB

[grizzled plank]

Think I’m gonna go with fighter cause I feel going more dps than tank

[buoyant oar]

Then go to town? And pay the price your DM wants.

And that is the last I am engaging with you Poker for you have publicly admited to argue for fun.

[knotty basin]

Roles like “DPS” and “tank” and “healer” aren’t really much of a thing in D&D

[unreal halo]

what would you take to round out a party that so far contains bard and barb?

[buoyant oar]

Cleric would be a good choice.

[halcyon forum]

Cleric, Druid, Wizard

[grizzled plank]

You know what I mean

[atomic kayak]

Bard and Barb honestly are a great foundation for a party that you can really do literally anything to round it out

[knotty basin]

Maybe druid and rogue?

[slow flower]

thanks for the tip, i was concidering the eberron dragonmark feat to get the spell find steed but i believe it would be stuck at level one and as such wouldn't scale. Ill just have to have a Horse replacement sized budget ready at all times

[buoyant oar]

Make sure your DM allows cross setting stuff if you are playing in an established one.

[slow flower]

oh yeah he's good with it, aslong as its official material and in some cases unearthed arcana (was playing a psion earlier as an example) he's good with it. Thankfully he's a great dm

[unreal halo]

aight

[slow flower]

but thanks for the help ill make sure to look up the prices for horses aswell so i can keep it in mind haha

[unreal halo]

i'll stick to wiz then

[limber oriole]

I’m playing a STRanger rn!

[viral ore]

Bow: the LARGE way.

[limber oriole]

It’s good fun! You end up being closer to a quarter caster imo. My magic mostly comes on enhancing myself and others. Using Hunters mark and taking shots with my bow before closing the distance and using Zephyr Strike

Zooming around the battlefield being a nuisance

[timid current]

and always remember: Great Weapon Master's damage bump applies to longbows too!

*on your turn during the attack action

[woven flint]

Me when Rangers don't always have to use bows or do ranged combat

[frosty escarp]

anyone that has played a fighter champion tortle before?

[umbral girder]

Probably

[stray atlas]

random question, do sorcerers get healing spells of any kind?

[hidden spindle]

Yes

Arcane Vigor

Vampiric Touch

[umbral girder]

Wish

[hidden spindle]

Wish

[umbral girder]

Some subclasses get healing abilities.

Like Divine Soul, Spellfire, Clockwork, and I think Lunar?

[stray atlas]

does that work for allies?

[hidden spindle]

Nope. Just to themselves

[stray atlas]

aw

[umbral girder]

Yeah you'll have to rely on certain subclasses or feats for healing spells

Hmm I should try a forest gnome arcane trickster

[obsidian moon]

@trail mirage

[umbral girder]

uhh

[meager fractal]

What's going on

[old sluice]

This is literally the only thing Mr.Forest does ever since he said he was interested in a game by Leo.

He apparently DMed Leo who did not answer and every few hours or so he just pings Leo.

You would think after a while he would give up but no.

[spring light]

that seems like borderline harassment.

[old sluice]

There is indeed a fine line between persistence and harassment. And I can't quite see on which side of the border Mr.Forest stands.

[strong wave]

Could you make an item in DND like an estus flask or is that too overpowered

[knotty basin]

What is an estus flask?

[cerulean ivy]

Are the feats Telepathic, Shadow Touched, and Mark of Shadow worth it for a Soulknife Rogue? It gets abilities that grant it telepathy and invisibility later on anyways.

[knotty basin]

Probably not then

[strong wave]

It's the health potion in elden ring that lets you regenerate health and it has so many charges before you have to refill it

[knotty basin]

Sure, that could be a magic item. Depending on the numbers it wouldn’t be all too strong

[haughty lake]

Hello!

[meager fractal]

Hi

[old sluice]

In the Dark Souls games, Estus flasks are your healing items. Consider it like a... renewable health potion. Every time you rest it refills, and the more you upgrade it the more uses you get out of it before it needs a refill and the more it heals in a single use

[reef tundra]

Now I hate to umm actually but 😭- Estus Flasks are only in the dark souls trilogy, it’s the crimson tears flask in Elden ring.

[strong wave]

Oh yah

[knotty basin]

Oh, yeah, I know what that is

[strong wave]

Good point

[old sluice]

Estus Flask is how it's named in Dark Souls. In Elden Ring it's the Flask of Crimson Tears. In Sekiro it's the healing gourd. It's always the same mechanic

[reef tundra]

I think it’s possible.

[haughty lake]

I'm new to DND so I'm here to hopefully make some friends and find a group<3
Hope you guys are having a good day/night!

[still plover]

#homebrew would be the right spot to work out the particulars of a flask of endless health.

[old sluice]

To answer the actual question: No, I would not recommend implementing such an item.

[reef tundra]

I think it could work

[knotty basin]

Why not? It sounds fun if your party doesn’t have a lot of healing spells

[reef tundra]

I agree

[spring light]

Gonna have to agree. Infinite free healing doesn't sound fun

[knotty basin]

It’s not infinite

It’s a number of charges per long rest

[reef tundra]

Estus flasks aren’t infinite

[old sluice]

If your party doesn't have a lot of healing spells, use potions. Though how the hell would you get into that situation? Do you mean to tell me it's a party with no paladin, no bard, no divine soul sorcerer, no cleric, no celestial warlock, no druid, no ranger?

[strong wave]

Maybe...

[spring light]

Oops all barbarians!

[old sluice]

At that point you guys deserve what you'll get

[strong wave]

Bardbarian rock troupe

[spring light]

DM should ideally be providing ways to get healing pots

[reef tundra]

Sounds like a good time for an Estus

[old sluice]

Now thing is, is there really a difference between an estus flask and a staff of healing?

[strong wave]

I wonder what it tastes like

Sunny d

[snow agate]

Not really

I’d just make the item like a rare wondrous or something instead of given for free

[reef tundra]

Taste /j
but fr you have a point

[snow agate]

Refilling health pot expensive

[hidden spindle]

The last bits of cereal milk.

[old sluice]

Glad you asked. The answer is yes. A staff of healing requires attunement and a staff of healing requires you to hold it with a hand. And a staff of healing can disappear if you use its last charge

[strong wave]

The nectar of the gods

[snow agate]

Who did

[hidden spindle]

Truly

[reef tundra]

A favourite among hollows

[old sluice]

And a staff of healing casts a spell, which comes with the usual spellcasting rules rather than the drinking potions rules. And a staff of healing can only be attuned by a bard, cleric or druid

[strong wave]

Pass de potion pon de left hand side

[old sluice]

So an Estus Flask is... Essentially just a staff of healing but just flat out better in every conceivable way.

[snow agate]

I don’t think that’s an issue

[strong wave]

Upgrades people upgrades

[old sluice]

Which is why I don't recommend implementing it.

[spring light]

doesn't seem like a big deal, imo

[woven flint]

Estus is actually literally made of fire.
So it probably tastes like fire

[old sluice]

It is indeed not a big deal.

[strong wave]

That might burn my tongue

[spring light]

if you want it at your table, run it. if you don't, don't.

[snow agate]

When you bite the fresh pizza

[woven flint]

I dunno, blame the Furtive Pygmy ig

[spring light]

there are definitely more unbalanced things out there

[snow agate]

Yeah I mean one time we basically got an artifact at lvl 5 xD

[old sluice]

Actually the estus flask is indeed probably made of liquid fire, the word comes from latin "aestus" meaning fire or heat. It is upgraded using fire keeper souls.

[scenic zinc]

-# sounds like a fancy way to say it's just alcohol

[old sluice]

Fire keeper souls can also give you Humanity. Humanity in that setting is the stuff made from the darkness that appeared after the first flame created a dichotomy between light and dark. And all human souls also contain a ring of fire put around it by the sun god to prevent it from growing. So yes, it is most likely liquid fire.

[strong wave]

Fire water

[spring light]

gonna have to agree.

[woven flint]

Yup.

[potent siren]

I like the idea of a lower level party having to protect an artifact from some external force. They are gifted Amulets of Proof against Detection and Location by some sundered noble house they are allied with, to hide them from magical view, and sent off to make a long journey to some place that could safely hold said artifact

[snow agate]

Me downing magic whiskey after getting exploded by a giant butterfly

[spring light]

Fireball!

[snow agate]

That is a fun idea

[old sluice]

And some fire keepers (actually one) are witches. Witches are not humans but their souls also come from the first flame, and are associated with life and heat. So yes, it's just straight up fire.

[potent siren]

I might base a campaign off of it ngl, ive been struggling to think up of an interesting campaign

[snow agate]

Yeah I mean escorting the great holy artifact or the dimensional lock or the stone of (whatever) is important , you don’t want your enemies having it when you’re the good guys

[twin vector]

Did they fix the problem with spells like revivify? Where corpses are objects and thus cant be targeted by revifify or other similar spells?

[knotty basin]

In the 2024 rules corpses are objects and creatures

I don’t think that was ever an issue

[old sluice]

It never was a problem

[reef tundra]

It was only a problem is a psychopath was willing to disregard logic and use RAW /lhj

[lyric viper]

Corpse are objects but the spell targets 'dead creatures'. It's not an issue.

[spring light]

corpses are objects, and thus my improvised weapon

[reef tundra]

Now I wanna hear that at a table

[spring light]

heh, start out unarmed until at least 1 enemy is downed, then equip them

[lyric viper]

I think people reduced 'a creature that has died within X' too much to 'A creature' and then debated the 'Well ackshully, a corpse is an object 🤔 '

But the 'a creature that has died within X' still does indeed describe a corpse.

[spring light]

a hotdog is a sandwich

[lyric viper]

The perfect sandwich debate returns yet again.

[spring light]

a taco is a sandwich too

pizza is not a sandwich.

cake is not a sandwich.

[snow agate]

Yeah I mean at best you could try using resurrection on your leather armor

Everything weaker than that is generally a stretch tho

[knotty basin]

Suddenly you own a cow

[snow agate]

Expensive cow

[spring light]

i don't think treated leather would be enough material to make a whole cow.

[knotty basin]

I mean, the spell does say it restores any missing body parts

[twin vector]

2 baked goods with tasty between them

[spring light]

i understand where you're coming from, but i have to draw the line somewhere. and apparently cake is on the other side of the line, for me.

[twin vector]

That might also maim whoever was wearing it

[lyric viper]

The old joke used to be that back when people would message Jeremy Crawford on Twitter about D&D rules, if there was a spell that summoned a sandwich, people would be chasing him to ask what counts as a sandwich by the rules.

[twilit ibex]

Checks in on dnd-discussion
Ah, yes. Everything is in order here. "What is a sandwich?" Very good. 👍

[timid current]

There is actually very little in the rules that isn't explained in the rules. Corpse is one of the grey areas but just talk to your dm if you really want to try to prevent yourself from casting revify

[scenic zinc]

Which is funny until people start deciding that only what's defined by him or wotc is ever acceptable

[scenic zinc]

There's actually so very much not defined in the rules.

Which is a good thing.

[twilit ibex]

Duality. I treat rules as guidelines for making an adventure for friends.

[timid current]

Most of the stuff a player will want to do is handily covered. Edge cases are best to be discussed with your dm

[twilit ibex]

I sometimes and maybe often blur the lines on the rules for fun factor

[timid current]

Oh certainly

At my tables we'll bend or change rules often

RAW is fine especially at events/AL

[reef tundra]

I remember a player of mine said he wanted to play RAW, I said “no… you don’t” and that was the end of it

[timid current]

I think this is a direct callout @crimson gulch

[twilit ibex]

I agree and will add on to this with "It's good to stick to RAW to keep things on the rails, but knowing when to use flare helps bunches."

[timid current]

Kinda rude tbh

[scenic zinc]

It's quite literally impossible to do when the system itself calls for rulings to be made during play.

[timid current]

RAW is fine especially for rules discussions

[twilit ibex]

Example: What spells and abilities look like.

[scenic zinc]

A level of interpretation is always necessary.

[twilit ibex]

If undefined, I let my players flavor away

[timid current]

And for things like running a game at a store with strangers

[reef tundra]

I’m just saying, I don’t think anybody would want to play a game where see invisibility doesn’t bypass the benefits of invisibility

[timid current]

Ok

[ornate aurora]

Hi I have a techincal question please. I am rolling a Mark of Warding Dwarf, according to the rule books they have access to Armor of 'Armor of Agathys' if they are a Spellcasting cast (one would think a wizard would fall into this class) I can not find the spell to add to my spell list. Can some one enlighten me on this please?

[reef tundra]

Or the other really strange technical issues that come from RAW, including the “corpse is an object not a creature” thing that people can interpret as not being able to resurrect people

[timid current]

OK 🙂

[hidden spindle]

Is this perhaps on D&D Beyond?

[reef tundra]

Did you actually think I was serious and trying to be rude?

[ornate aurora]

You are corect

[scenic zinc]

Seeing as that got fixed in '24, I agree

[twilit ibex]

I have to make a new campaign by spring. 😭

[hidden spindle]

It would need the attention over at #ddb-support

[ornate aurora]

Thank you !

[snow agate]

I feel like the rules were generally written to be understandable by normal people and not rule lawyers

[crimson gulch]

Huh what did I miss?

[reef tundra]

Exactly.

[timid current]

Discussion on playing RAW

[scenic zinc]

Lol what? He literally doesn't play RAW

[reef tundra]

I made a joke about RAW and Dave here thought I was dissing you /lh /silly

[twilit ibex]

Waiting for upcoming Eberron and Artificer content to get started on shooty-shoot "Dragon Badlands" adventures. Huzzah

[crimson gulch]

I'm lawful raw

[timid current]

Heyyy have you seen frontiers of eberron: quickstone?

[crimson gulch]

The updated ebberon book is great

[hidden spindle]

Even with See Invisibility able to see Invisible creatures, the invisible creatures still benefit with Advantage in Initiative Roll.

[timid current]

Because that is a perfect book to accompany a badlands / westerny eberron campaign

[crimson gulch]

I sure do my best too

[twilit ibex]

Not too much. I am what one might call a lazy DM. I just know I can get my hands on soon and get to work

[scenic zinc]

You use a combination of what works as you see fit - which isn't blindly playing RAW.

[timid current]

Well if a rootin' tootin' wand gun shootin' adventure is on your plate I definitely recommend quickstone

[twilit ibex]

Oooh, noted. Writing that down, thank you

[timid current]

In addition to having some more eberron species it has rules for wand duels (adaptable for pistols of course)

[bold sphinx]

HI, superr new, dont know where to start ut I'd love to, any tips?

[crimson gulch]

You haven't played in my games as far as I can recall, I go as raw as can be, because I run so many games I don't change things as I go I just accept the system as is

[twilit ibex]

"Guns," and such are the entry level that my players will be starting off with, but eventually I have to start up more complex things. Like "power armor," or airships with very fancy guns.

[knotty basin]

Maybe check out #learn-to-play

[crimson gulch]

Air ships and power armor and guns are fun in dnd

[bold sphinx]

thank you

[timid current]

Hey and welcome! Best to check #dnd-newcomers and #learn-to-play !

[bold sphinx]

Ty Ty ❤️

[scenic zinc]

I'm going off of the conversations we've had in here about how you dm and how you tweak things if necessary. We've had multiple discussions about it.

[twilit ibex]

I'm doing a very risky thing by looking into the Bastion system to perhaps give them a HQ early on. A busted down, large airship they may possibly get back in the sky.

[scenic zinc]

As a reminder, it's literally the entire context behind the "Oberoni Fallacy"

[timid current]

Sounds like fun- maybe for some early fun do it final fantasy style where it can function as a sea ship until fully restored?

[crimson gulch]

Custom monsters and plot lines and pacing of sessions is perfectly in line with raw to engage with as I see fit as a dm

[twilit ibex]

Yoho, yahoo, all I can say is "Thank you!"

Great idea.

[scenic zinc]

This is you literally saying you make changes as you see fit...

Which is not following RAW blindly.

[crimson gulch]

Making customized monsters and plots is something that the dmg tells you how and why to do

[old sluice]

There are virtues in playing full RAW too.

There is no wrong answer here. Playing full RAW is not worse or better

[timid current]

No problem! If you are super ambitious, you can even make some support staff/crew using the sidekicks system. Having nocs that the party can get to know the a great place to put plot hooks

[scenic zinc]

The point is it's literally not possible.

[crimson gulch]

Content =/= rules

[scenic zinc]

A level of interpretation and customization is always done.

You're not a computer.

[old sluice]

Speak for yourself.

[crimson gulch]

Making a custom adventure and a custom monster is something you can do and stay to raw 100% actually so I don't know what your on about

[halcyon forum]

I dont think anyone plays 100% pure RAW.

[old sluice]

Maybe I am! If I am, I just passed the Turing text. Which means that I am the best computer ever

[crimson gulch]

The rules as written allow us to create and breath life into so much for our games

[reef tundra]

I stick to the rules, I’m just referring to RAW as in, taking the exact words as gospel and not using logic with it. For example, stabilising a creature doesn’t specify a range, so RAW it can be almost any range since it doesn’t limit it

[twilit ibex]

I just know RAW is where scary things outside of my control as a DM live, and I am a petty god

[reef tundra]

I should probably have a different word for it if I’m talking about this

[old sluice]

I heard that one before but wasn't there a thing in the wording that prevents this interpretation?

[twilit ibex]

Joking, of course. In reality it's my guideline, of course

[thorn sinew]

Hello. Also new. (No need to help , I will look around)

[reef tundra]

I haven’t been able to find it. I checked in #dnd-rules with others and they can’t find it either

That’s when one of my players starting begging me to play RAW (not the good kind of RAW)

[twilit ibex]

I just know sometimes I encounter RAW that doesn't sit with me. S'all. Then I discuss with the player(s). I am not perfect

[scenic zinc]

The rules are a good place to start.

They're not always the right place to end.

[crimson gulch]

The rules are how we resolve actions that the players attempt

[shy stirrup]

Well put

[reef tundra]

But yeah RAI is how I always do it

[knotty basin]

I disregard the rules when it’s fun to do so

[twilit ibex]

Like how I need to prevent a group of absolute trolls from blowing up a city or the moon or something in my upcoming game

[reef tundra]

Ofc I’m not saying the rules are bad (most of the time) because they’d obviously rely on basic logical interpretations using how the world works. Like how they don’t have to specify you can’t speak underwater

[knotty basin]

Want to use shocking grasp to electrcute a bunch of enemies in water! Ok, go ahead, split the damage between them

[thorn sinew]

I am a simple guy. I write in safari:dnd discord. Now , I am here

[crimson gulch]

Sounds good send in the heros to stop the moon trolls

[twilit ibex]

I just know. They asked me for a game with magic/technology, I said "Yes." I just know they're going to attempt to blow up something or crash an economy

[old sluice]

Trolls on the moon... Could be an idea!

[scenic zinc]

We do this via rulings. Which often begin by looking at the rules. Many times that is where that ends - but not always.

[old sluice]

Let's see... Maybe someone attempted to get rid of a troll group by teleporting them to the moon. They died from the lack of atmosphere and pressure, then regenerated into new forms adapted to the moon.

[woven flint]

Whats next?
Heaven Orcs?!

[old sluice]

What would it look like?...

[knotty basin]

I’m thinking orange and black

Maybe more gaunt and lizardy

[halcyon forum]

The moon bears were scary enough, not to mention the saturn bears.

[woven flint]

Actually, all Orcs go to heaven is my barbarians book that he's writing..
Mostly to justify his guilt of killing orcs.

[old sluice]

Don't need to breathe? Taller and thinner?

[halcyon forum]

but moon trolls?

[scenic zinc]

I am for rule of law. Not code of law.

[old sluice]

I wouldn't want to go to heaven personally

Seems like a horrible place. Especially for orcs.

[twilit ibex]

One of the players wants to be evil aligned from jump, multiple others are neutral, and I might have 1 or 2 good aligned players. I am preparing for large scale destruction

[halcyon forum]

thats a pretty nice solution to the trolls. could have had them suffer a fate like that one character in the old guard

[woven flint]

That was a lie, My barbarian wouldn't feel guilty about killing Orcs
But I sure do, I had an Orc mercy monk that I absolutely adored

[shy stirrup]

I was gonna say something about RAW but apparently we're talking about moon trolls now so 🤷‍♂️

[old sluice]

I have no clue what you're referencing

[twilit ibex]

I just wanted a fun game with some dungeons, and some dragons. "Fireball!" Then everyone laughs. Now it's all guns, airships, psionic dragons, and guerilla warfare

[halcyon forum]

she is immortal and trapped under water basically

[scenic zinc]

They have a much higher survival rate than sun trolls.

[halcyon forum]

funny, suns dont do fire damage in 5e

[old sluice]

Do you think fire elementals live on the sun?

Or on stars in general?

[scenic zinc]

-# I mean... that's good. Because the sun isn't on fire.

[halcyon forum]

its all radiant damage according to spell jammer

[woven flint]

They probably can?
But there's an elemental plane of fire, so most probably originate from there

[scenic zinc]

My joke was about sunlight turning trolls into stone.

[halcyon forum]

ah

thought it was just about the regen

[olive wind]

The sun is the fire, this raises many philosophical questions.

[woven flint]

Folks, we should go to the City of Brass, trust me

Bargain and deal with the fire elementals

[halcyon forum]

but yeah, fire elementals cant survive on 5e suns. instant death. but trolls can

well

okay maybe not quite. I think the trolls might die from too much damage at once?

[scenic zinc]

Nah. I was making a lotr joke because I've been playing a lot of shadow of war recently

[halcyon forum]

hmmmm, now..the massive damage rules specifically say "character" and not creature, implying that monsters dont get massive damage ?

[knotty basin]

Our group uses massive damage for monsters

[halcyon forum]

yeah I meant strictly RAW

[knotty basin]

It’s pretty fun

[scenic zinc]

NPCs are still characters

[halcyon forum]

I dont think that is true in terms of DnD terminology

[knotty basin]

I don’t think they are. They’re creatures, though

[scenic zinc]

If it said player character then I could see your point.

[halcyon forum]

character specifically references the creatures made and controlled by the non-DM players

[scenic zinc]

I don't believe that's true.

[old sluice]

The city of brass is actually quite nice. Best marketplace in the multiverse

[scenic zinc]

Especially when monster only means npc's that are or can be opposed to the player characters

Character by itself is agnostic

[woven flint]

Hell yeah, its where I can get my gucci stuff in the forgottem realms, homie

[old sluice]

And yeah, I think Azerick's right. Natural language wins here. If it doesn't say "player character" that means character.

And everyone is a character

[knotty basin]

Monster means any non-player character

[halcyon forum]

fair enough. NPC is a frequently used term

[scenic zinc]

I hate that they decided to add the glossary at times:

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/phb-2024/rules-glossary#NonplayerCharacter

But at least it proves me right while proving me wrong.

[halcyon forum]

ha lol

so a named troll can die from massive damage but random troll '6 cant?

[old sluice]

But all trolls have names.

[stuck pelican]

Me, about to make a new character: I'll play-
Everyone: A drow or a tiefling
Darn it. I just think my misunderstood lil peeps are neat ok

[scenic zinc]

Cannon fodder trolls are strongk

[old sluice]

There's a troll language. Any creature that has a language has a name that is used to refer to them in that language

There is no such thing as being nameless. Even "the nameless one" is technically a name

[scenic zinc]

There are entire cultures that didn't name their children until a certain age irl

[knotty basin]

If no one knows of your existence, you can be nameless

[scenic zinc]

Something not having a name isn't inconceivable

[stuck pelican]

Like Shrek before he met Donkey

[scenic zinc]

@fossil hollow

[old sluice]

Fine. If a creature has a language but has never had any interaction with any other creature, it can be nameless

[scenic zinc]

-# that creature is probably dead

[old sluice]

Yeah they don't get an official name, but what's a name? It's the thing used to refer to you. So even if the baby hasn't been named yet, it still has the "name" of "Greg's baby"

[crimson gulch]

There's old firbolg lore about them not having names, just like the wild beasts and trees of the land

[scenic zinc]

I wouldn't consider a title a name

[old sluice]

I think the distinction between title and name only starts existing after the etymology of the name has been lost

If you're called "Gregory" now, it's a name. But in ancient Greece, it's a title meaning "vigilant" or "awake"

All names start as titles in the culture. Then the meaning gets lost. The name becomes perceived as its own thing rather than as referring to something.

[old sluice]

If two firbolgs talk about a third one, how do they refer to the third one?

Even something like "The one with the scar" becomes the name for the purposes of the conversation. And indeed plenty of real life names refer to physical attributes.

[crimson gulch]

Dunno I never thought to hard about it

[marble lion]

just because you are a character doesnt mean you have character

[crimson gulch]

I gave my firbolgs names

[reef tundra]

”You may be bad guy, but that does not make you a BAD guy” /ref

[clear lark]

Why?

[marble lion]

they describe i guess. just like what you just did. thats not a name though it can be one if chosen

"the one with the scar" isnt a name until you determine it is

[knotty basin]

“I want to open the door”
“Sorry, can’t, there’s no rules for opening doors”

[marble lion]

considering the description may change depending on the context and who is possibly being talked about it would be even less like a name

[halcyon forum]

because
a) the rules dont cover everythin
b) the rules are not always clearly written
c) the rules are really bad sometimes
d) there is weird "tech" and rules interpretations that straight up break the game

[clear lark]

what?

[reef tundra]

See invisibility doesn’t allow you to negate invisibility in 100% RAW

[knotty basin]

I was giving an example of what playing by 100% RAW looks like

[rough basalt]

Yeah See Invisibility doesn't let you actually see invisible people while also seeing invisible people

[halcyon forum]

did they fix that in 2024?

[reef tundra]

The game wasn’t meant to be played 100% raw, because the game expects people to use logic and know how the world works

[reef tundra]

Not entirely sure, I’ll have to check

[rough basalt]

Don't think so

[clear lark]

I completely disagree. I think that the vast majority of problems comes from overthinking or in other cases, bad rule lawyering.

[halcyon forum]

For the duration, you see creatures and objects that have the Invisible condition as if they were visible, and you can see into the Ethereal Plane. Creatures and objects there appear ghostly.

[clear lark]

But that's just me. We all have our opinions. I was just curious, why they said that

[rough basalt]

Yeah but I think you still have disadvantage

[halcyon forum]

if you dont "overthink" or consider a rules laywer's argument, I guarantee that you havent always followed RAW

[rough basalt]

Cause even tho you see them they look weird so you dun know what to do /hj

[clear lark]

I mean that's your opinion.You have no way of reading mind to know this.

[halcyon forum]

Concealed. You aren’t affected by any effect that requires its target to be seen unless the effect’s creator can somehow see you. Any equipment you are wearing or carrying is also concealed.

Attacks Affected. Attack rolls against you have Disadvantage, and your attack rolls have Advantage. If a creature can somehow see you, you don’t gain this benefit against that creature.

[rough basalt]

Ah aight

[reef tundra]

Oh wow they actually fixed it! /notsarc

[halcyon forum]

I dont have to read minds. no one every gets all rules perfect, not to mention that some rules are just not clear, so any interpretation will be seen by someone as not RAW (with legit reasoning)

[reef tundra]

Anybody else dislike how invisibility works in BG3?

[clear lark]

Okay moving on

[knotty basin]

What’s wrong with it?

[lavish flame]

Whats up with it? Isn't it just the usual Invisibility?

[halcyon forum]

nah its pretty heavily homebrewed

[lavish flame]

Like, no hitting or casting spells unless you want to lose it. How have they altered it?

[craggy summit]

Isn't that how it is in actual dnd too? Unless you use greater invisibility?

[lavish flame]

Admittedly, I only ever got the Invisible condition from a class feature or magic item or something (idk) in that game. I never casted Invisibility the spell, so idk whats up with it

[rough basalt]

I think it's cause enemies can just reveal you for free

[lavish flame]

wat

[reef tundra]

Nah I just think it’s incredibly annoying to go up against, as the creature is not only invisible, but cannot be targeted by anything, cannot be perceived at all, and some enemies that have it just spam it

[rough basalt]

They'll pivot around then go "ahhh" and reveal you

[rough basalt]

Oh yeah this too

[knotty basin]

Not even a perception check?

[reef tundra]

And it somehow is never as good when you use it as a player

[lavish flame]

Tbh, fighting invisible enemies never felt difficult to me

[rough basalt]

Iirc nope

[reef tundra]

It wasn’t difficult, just annoying

[lavish flame]

I was abusing the shit out of "you can't enter their token space, so by finding a sufficiently large space you can't walk into, you can find the invis enemy" tho

[reef tundra]

I ended up doing that too

[rough basalt]

I think they do but the DC is so low I'd only see them fail like once in a bluemoon

[reef tundra]

It’s like the only way to counter it without just see invisibility

[lavish flame]

though that was also sometimes a crapshoot, as the terrain that prevents you from traversing is mostly unclear

[old sluice]

Who is "you" here? Most people do not choose their names. They are imposed. And plenty of people have more than one name. If "that jerk" is enough for the person I'm talking to to know who I am talking about, then during this conversation "that jerk" is their name.

[marble lion]

i dont think thats how names work

[old sluice]

Names do not need to be forever. Plenty of people change their names. Even in D&D, elves change names when reaching adulthood.

[marble lion]

i think a phrase needs to become synonymous with your person, at least in that circle, for it to be a name

temporary? sure
but there is a limit to that

if i say "the gentleman in red" as a waiter, is that the name of that customer? no

[reef tundra]

I can advocate for this

[marble lion]

now if that guy comes in every week, and we call him "red" that is a name

[old sluice]

And "that jerk" is synonymous with the person we are talking about if we both agree he's a jerk

[marble lion]

its a descriptor. its not a name

[old sluice]

Names can be descriptors.

[marble lion]

unless you call the same guy that thing every week and it becomes synonymous with his identity

[old sluice]

So someone I only meet once has no name?

Regularity of encounters and reference does not seem like a good standard

[marble lion]

no

they tell you the phrase they are referred to by others, or wish to be

i think that "wish to be" is an important detail there

[old sluice]

Babies can't do that. Do babies not have names?

[marble lion]

"or wish to be"

its optional to like your name

names can be given from the outside

[lyric viper]

I feel like this is getting a bit off topic

[marble lion]

true

[old sluice]

Babies can't tell you anything except general nonsense. Or they scratch the eye of their dad who therefore can't DM tonight's session.

Oh yeah. Got carried away.

Damn babies. Greatest enemies in D&D

[hybrid lichen]

Guys do u use 4d6 as like 4 separate rolls or just roll at the same time digitally when u only have one set of each dice

[cerulean monolith]

It is mathematically identical, so it doesn’t matter

[glass granite]

I have 4 d6 dice, so I just do that, but as Sam said it doesn’t actually matter

[knotty basin]

Physical I do 4 separate rolls, digitally I do simultaneously

[minor cargo]

Except in my case. Each time I roll the singular 1d6, my tears hit one side of the die and make it more likely to be face down.

[old sluice]

Sometimes I wish I had loaded dice.

[cerulean monolith]

Does anybody actually edit PDFs to use as character sheets? It seems like it could have advantages in theory, but I struggle to actually work them out over just putting things in a doc or spreadsheet

[minor cargo]

For D&D, no. But for other TTRPGs, yeah. The biggest advantage is I can save it and then send it to myself on Discord as a jank kind of cloud storage.

[lavish flame]

Sometimes I feel like I have prank dice that only go up to like 8 on a d20

[minor cargo]

My experience with D&D PDF character sheets is VERY hit or miss, mostly misses. It just behaves... weirdly.

[fair plinth]

Dont we all

[cerulean monolith]

I’m planning a campaign with a fair bit of homebrew features that make it no longer worth my time to use the DDB homebrew system, in this instance. But I want to have an alternative ready to provide to the players

[blazing sentinel]

Uhm, kinda on topic. I'm making a Monk, how would I determine "Saving Throw" and other stuff under like Dex and Wis

[cerulean monolith]

Read the feature

[blazing sentinel]

The what

[knotty basin]

Have you read the basic rules yet

[blazing sentinel]

Yes I'm still confused

[potent siren]

character creation questions will probably be more quickly answered in #dnd-newcomers or #dnd-rules

[blazing sentinel]

These books are all over the place.

[glass granite]

Specifically #dnd-newcomers
But they’re your stat modifier, and if you’re proficient in the save you add your proficiency bonus

[sleek cloud]

Are you talking about saving throw dcs of monk features? Stuff like for stunning strike as an example?

[blazing sentinel]

So like

My Monk has a +4 in Dex, but that's his proficient stat, I can't seem to find the specific for where to find the proficiency bonus for stats

I played 3.5e for a few years like 6 years ago I'm very lost

[knotty basin]

You don’t add your proficiency bonuses to stats, and you cannot be proficient in stats

You’re proficient in dexterity saving throws

[potent siren]

as your a monk, your Dex saving throw bonus is Dex mod. + Proficiency bonus

[blazing sentinel]

Where is that bonus

[potent siren]

level based

[clear lark]

His proficiency is +2

[knotty basin]

What level are you

[blazing sentinel]

3

[potent siren]

its +2 then

make sure to reference your class features, there is usually a table there that shows level by level what you get

[blazing sentinel]

oh ffs i see it

sorry, ty.

[clear lark]

np

[potent siren]

no worries, if you have other questions throw them in the newcomers channel, lots of people answer questions there

[old sluice]

Little trick to win any investigation session quickly: It's always whoever you suspect the least. Therefore make a list of every character and just kill the person at the bottom.

[glass granite]

Unethical life hack: kill everyone
/j

[old sluice]

That also works

[potent siren]

no one can do anything bad if there is no one to do anything at all!

[glass granite]

Impeccable logic

[inner silo]

I think I'm currently in two completely opposite campaigns and playing two completely opposite characters

[sleek cloud]

“I can’t believe it, it was me the whole time!”

That’s a good way to stretch your RP skills

[lavish flame]

It is located in both the "At Higher Levels/Past Level 1" sections, and on your Class Table for your Class. Every few levels (approx every 5) it increases by 1, going from a +2 at level 1 to a +6 at level 17.

[clear lark]

We already answered it. He thanked us and left

[inner silo]

What's the best way to get into a rp heavy game that you're joining mid game? Like how to come up with character interactions and discuss it with your dm?

[old sluice]

I once was in a game where a character tried to teach a demon to be good. One exchange went a bit like this:
"So you see, we must strive to prevent suffering."
"The most efficient way seems to be to kill every living being and destroy their souls."

Then "But we try to respect their autonomy"
"By using charm spells to get them to agree to being killed?"

[minor lake]

you're having a conversation as that character. one of the best bits of advice i've gotten for improv and roleplay is to hone in on those little reactions that you or the character have and make them bigger.

you're still you, you're just being filtered thru the lens of this character

just have fun and "yes and" your party, set others up to look good

i guess i would ask the DM where you're coming in and what your character would know/what you would need to know as a player

[inner silo]

Alrighty, thanks!@minor lake

[minor lake]

ya!

also dont be afraid to leave your character a bit open. when you try and force something in RP it can feel stilted
an example i think of is im playing a really sweet good hearted elf who sees a bunch of elves being persecuted and he's kind of drifting towards a rebel/dark type. I didn't anticipate that but i just reacted to what he saw and how i thought he might feel and the character is already way more interesting than when i started.

tbh so much of roleplay is listening and going off of what others say

[thorn sinew]

Why is slowmode enabled?

[rough basalt]

To prevent spam, and keep chat readable I imagine

[lavish flame]

There's almost 300,000 ppl in the server. While the chats aren't usually super busy, they can get real busy

[buoyant oar]

And not to mention it removes the propensity for people to send a new message with each... individual.... line of their message.

[marble lion]

i only use pdfs. you click the things and write

what do you mean by editing pdfs?

[jagged vigil]

I gave my players homework to do over the last couple weeks because we had a big break between sessions. Only one player did it, so I'm rewarding them with a floating 15 for next session, just one time they can choose to have rolled a 15 on the die instead of rolling. What are some other ways that between session play can be encouraged?

[marble lion]

i think while its funny to give out a little thing like that, the main reward for doing "inbetween session effort" should be the actual purpose of what they were doing

this isnt studying for physics, this is a game
if you had them doing something between sessions, it must have had a purpose

write a backstory? wow look at how much interaction the player who did it gets out of their backstory. maybe i should write mine too?
come up with tinkering choices? wow look at all these cool things the player is allowed to make. maybe i should actually work on my list too?

what kind of "homework" is it?

[jagged vigil]

It's a newish campaign, the purpose of the homework was just to maintain momentum between a larger than usual break between sessions and get them to know their characters a little better. Last session they arrived in a new city, so between session I asked them to write someone elsewhere a message or letter. Could be family, a work associate, anyone. Didn't have to be a long message, just some form of communication

One player wrote out 3 lengthy letters to a couple different people. One player chatted with me about what they were thinking about writing, but didn't actually do it. The other three didn't do any of it

[timid current]

That's cool, and it's not like an immensely overpowered gift, its a one time token

[sleek cloud]

I’d enjoy doing something like that tbh

[pure shoal]

Question

[glass granite]

Answer

[pure shoal]

What LVL does your character have to be to have…

[potent siren]

to have?!?

[knotty basin]

To have what

[pure shoal]

643HP

[knotty basin]

I don’t think that’s possible

[glass granite]

Oddly specific

[potent siren]

hm, well

[knotty basin]

At most you can get 440, more with the tough feat or boons

[minor cargo]

I’m finishing up at the gym but I’ll come back to this.

Basically I’m gonna grab some references about intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation - and how extrinsic motivators (rewards) can de-motivate people.

[oak sedge]

Hiii

[pure shoal]

I mean. I’m thinking LVL 20

[serene lily]

https://discord.com/events/516367331358801950/1447717963758309426

[potent siren]

Even with lvl 20 + d12 hitdice + 30 con + Tough + Fortitude Epic Boon you would still be quite a ways away from 600ish

[hexed girder]

dwarves get an extra hp per level right?

[potent siren]

even with that, but yeah

[hexed girder]

oh yeah, that still doesnt get you to 600..i was just trying to remember

[glass granite]

That’d be…
(12+2+10+1)x20+40
So…540?

[potent siren]

if you rolled 12 on each hitdice yeah

[glass granite]

Yeah, this is just theory

[potent siren]

not sure if there are magic items that give flat HP

[glass granite]

Might be

[jagged vigil]

Exciting! Thanks Steve

[cerulean monolith]

Well, from what I understand asking players to use PDFs would require them to figure out a program or something to use

[marble lion]

not at all

pdfs are very very easy to use. its almost as simple as picking up a pen and writing into a box on paper

[timid current]

Form fillable pdfs have been around for decades

[marble lion]

you leftclick the space on the sheet, and then type letters or numbers into it

you just need to download something that can open PDFs like adobe

its not "figuring out a program" at all

[old sluice]

There's a thing a DM I know does. Writes down your max potential HP. Basically what your HP would be if you always rolled the max on your die when levelling up.
Then during training or as a special reward, he allows players to get more max HP and get closer to their maximum potential HP. I'm thinking of implementing this idea. Pros and cons?

[glad arch]

Having hp up there with boss monsters sure would be something

[potent siren]

Oh, the pathfinder 1e way

ive been thinking about doing something similar

[glad arch]

Pros, more hp for the players
Cons, more hp for the players

[potent siren]

I'd say keep it to downtime only

[woven flint]

You know...
I think druids deserve more love

[old sluice]

Yeah it's simple. Don't know what I was expecting

[glad arch]

Youd be able to do slightly harder encounters then youd normally would. Which higher cr usually is more interesring stat blocks

[oak sedge]

I have a question: how can I create my character? I want it to be a Dragonborn paladin.

?

[potent siren]

Ask in #dnd-newcomers , lots of people are willing to help with things like character creation there

I'd also recommend reading the character creation section of the basic rules

https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/creating-a-character

assuming your playing using the 2024 rules

[old sluice]

Write down dragonborn paladin. Pick your stats. Pick your background. Pick your starting equipment.
Done

[clear lark]

I would think rolling your HP after leveling up is something like the benefit of training and hard work . I'm not against giving players additional HP, but it already implies they have earned what they rolled. Besides there are Feats you can take to increase your HP.

[rough basalt]

I've done rolled hp a few times

[timid current]

There is no earning in rolling, its random chance.

Nothing on your character sheet can prevent you from rolling a one on your hit die

[tame estuary]

That's the thrill of it

Dang this was like 40 minutes ago

[marble lion]

dice tell how things go. thats not necessarily pure chance in-universe

it can be flavoured as such but doesnt have to be

imagine what that would mean for skillchecks

[oak sedge]

Thanks

[minor cargo]

Wall of text, sorry!

So yes, like I was saying: intrinsic vs extrinsic motivation. Here's a 10 minute video of an RSA lecture from 15 years ago. It's old - but also intrinsic and extrinsic motivation is something that has been studied since (arguably) since at least the 1920s in the western world. If you wanted to get very academic about it, here's a paper (literary review) from PubMed from 2022. I wouldn't say you need to read this, but dropping this to just say scientists and educators have been talking about this for a long time.

In short, extrinsic motivators - like rewards - often de-motivate people to do a behaviour. That is, if you reward someone for a behaviour (e.g. giving a bonus for doing homework), they are less likely to do it in the future (in general). It sounds really unintuitive, and I realize that. After all, if you want someone to do something, you should reward them.

But studies show that when people are intrinsically motivated, they are more likely to do a certain behaviour.

Examples: You ever wonder why countries (except the US) don't pay for blood donations? You ever wonder why we don't pay students to go to school or to do their homework? You ever wonder why some people just go and learn new skills, like playing guitar, even though it likely won't get them any benefit in the end?

For more info on intrinsic motivators, I often recommend looking at self-efficacy. This is the idea that one can succeed. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Self-efficacy When someone feels a high sense of self-efficacy, usually experience intrinsic motivation (but not always).

That's not to say that extrinsic motivation is "always bad" or harmful or anything. It can be really, really helpful to "hook" someone, and then later they may find their intrinsic motivators. For example, someone may try to extrinsically motivate someone to donate blood by offering a special cookie at the end. But the hope is that the experience is positive enough, and the donor feels good about it, that they keep doing it even if the reward is gone.

So to your group, I bet there was a really high chance that the one player who did the homework? Probably would do the homework even if there was no prize. Indeed, I would actually caution to be careful that you don't reward the behaviour TOO much, otherwise you might actually donate them. (Here's a paper that talks about paying blood donors.)

Again, this isn't a knock or dunk on what you decided on - and I truly do hope it works out! But wanted to give some more info to both you and others. Maybe we can come back to this at some point in the future and I'll need to type less lol.

[glass granite]

-# woah jump scare

[marble lion]

thats pretty much what i meant

[tame estuary]

There's the thing about homework too where it's like, people are just busy or have other things to do in the timeslot if they aren't playing for the week

[marble lion]

put into academic terms. interesting

[lusty tendon]

can someone be ever so kind to inform me why my favorite subclass of druid (wildfire) doesnt get fireball as a spell

or can we all agree that it just should generally get fireball

[tame estuary]

I don't see why druids in general don't get fireball

[lusty tendon]

me neither, but more specifically wildfire druids

[potent siren]

Probably to give offensive distinction between arcane and divine casters

not sure why wildfire doesnt get it, 2014 light cleric does after all

[stoic obsidian]

Because the wizard and sorcerer modify memory the Druid, because they became to powerful to keep until control/jk

[lusty tendon]

i know right?!

[marble lion]

so is druid a divine caster?

[lusty tendon]

spirits so kinda?

[potent siren]

druid is generally considered part of the divine casters, not sure if that changed for 2024

[stoic obsidian]

Are paladins?

[potent siren]

yep

[marble lion]

are rangers?

[lusty tendon]

druid spell list so id say seudo yes/no

[potent siren]

also yeah

[lusty tendon]

but more of if i play wildfire druid should i just ask if i can have fireball or is their a way to get fireball using magic initiate feat

[stoic obsidian]

So does a divine soul sorcerer and celestial warlock count?

[potent siren]

not with magic initiate, but you could always just ask

[potent siren]

I actually dont remember, but I think its still considered arcane for them

[lusty tendon]

yeah i looked its a no go (only lv1)

[potent siren]

Its a very arbitrary distinction

[lusty tendon]

ill probably just ask if so, as i really do love the subclass of summoning flaming creatures

[stoic obsidian]

What is consider divine to be a divine caster

[lusty tendon]

praying to gods (or what i just think)

[median shore]

im backkkkkk

I left for a bit cuz I wasnt able to find games n stuff bleh but now im back :3

[potent siren]

Generally arcane casters cast magic by manipulating the Weave, while Divine casters sort of work as a medium for some other force

[stoic obsidian]

Yet a paladin and Druid don’t need one to have their powers

[potent siren]

at least to my understanding

that might be more of a #dnd-lore question

it comes from the official settings of d&d

[lusty tendon]

paladins do need a "god" druid's i dont consider as they pray to the spirits of the land rather than the gods of the land (which i guess could be interpreted as gods of the land aka. yokai)

[stoic obsidian]

Paladins need their oaths not a god

[potent siren]

Iirc in dnd lore Oaths are sort of overseered by powerful beings

[lusty tendon]

thats what i thought or am i just wrong in this case?

[potent siren]

honestly probably just ask in the lore channel, I only know a little bit

[shy stirrup]

Paladins originally served a god, like a cleric
Then, somebody decided they'd serve an oath, an ideal
You're free to choose either

(as a DM)

[potent siren]

Yeah the power of being DM lets you interpret it however you wish

[limber oriole]

I would always play a Paladin as religious for every subclass but Vengeance and Oathbreaker

[stoic obsidian]

I don’t, because honestly I find promises you keep to yourself is more important than to a god

[limber oriole]

That’s fair, i guess the question for me would be where does the power come from then?

[stoic obsidian]

Your oath

[glass granite]

Your immense conviction and will channeled through your oath

[lusty tendon]

honestly that sounds right but i originally thought that oaths were more towards a concept that then falls into the category of religion to a god of some kind

[potent siren]

Its mainly the question of what sort of conditions would need to be met for a promise you make to yourself to be recognized by reality itself as a binding vow that grants you power

[limber oriole]

Yeah exactly, i mean i guess it i was being silly i would say then does strict devotion to veganism in whatever setting then grant you powers?

You could swear to never eat meat or animal products and really believe in it, but it doesn’t grant powers

[stoic obsidian]

Think of it like a contract you made with yourself and if you break your conviction you have powers be out of sync with yourself

[potent siren]

Like plenty of people feel vengeful, but not everyone gets to make an Oath of Vengeance

[glass granite]

Veganism isn’t a difficult or profound enough concept for an oath to channel power

Same reason why your oath to survival isn’t enough to give power

[stoic obsidian]

Plus you have to continue to follow the oath

[limber oriole]

I would play an Oath of Vengeance paladin coming from a source of power opposed to the same thing you are.

[tame estuary]

Kamen rider

[limber oriole]

But I would also play that character as losing power once the thing they’ve sworn vengeance against is defeated

[jagged vigil]

Steve! This is fantastic, thank you so much. You always have such incredibly intelligent advice and information

[potent siren]

Thats mainly why it is considered Divine. This power is not intrinsic to you or learned, but it is derived from some sort of concept that the world grants you some small dominion over due to you having intense enough convictions

[rough basalt]

Like for an example, there's an anime/game character named Shiro Emiya who devotes himself to an ideal image of a "Hero" to the point it literally decides his life for good and bad at no consideration for his own self so that could be an example of a Devotion Paladin

[potent siren]

In your opinion, what would be the difference between someone that holds those ideals but isnt a paladin, vs someone who holds those ideals and is one

[livid timber]

can anyone explain to me how i can start playing? im new but have nbo idea how to get started.

[rough basalt]

Someone who holds those ideals but isn't a paladin likely only holds them as long as it's convenient

[pastel ingot]

hello

[lusty tendon]

with this all being said then someone explain to me why paladins are cha casters and not wis casters

[glass granite]

Read up on the first few chapters of the free basic rules on #learn-to-play , and feel free to ask any questions you might have.

[livid timber]

hi

[rough basalt]

A paladin would be one that sees those ideals through to the end, regardless what that end may be.

[potent siren]

Yeah, thats probably a good way to conceptualize it

[limber oriole]

I guess my biggest sticking point to that is then what’s holding them to that oath? Using your example as long as the Person is convinced what they’re doing is heroic then they could never break their oath.

[glass granite]

My interpretation is that Charisma often refers to the will, influence and sense of self an individual has, and paladins embody that perfectly

[rough basalt]

That's actually part of his character.
He becomes a "hero" but said hero killed a million people to save billions so whether he's actually a hero is up for debate

[raw ocean]

I wonder what monster tastes the best in D&D

[glass granite]

My interpretation is: nothing.
As long as what they believe what they’re is adhering to their oath to the highest degree, nothing breaks.

[lusty tendon]

mimics cannonically taste like savory and good tasting wagu cotton candy

[potent siren]

At some point in dnd paladins used to be Will casters iirc lol

[tame estuary]

Probably you

Why else would you be in so much danger all the time

[rough basalt]

That's cause in older editions saves were more condensed

[lusty tendon]

but i think its a lobster like monster from the sea that tastes the best (forgot its name rn)

[limber oriole]

I mean it’s definitely an interesting concept but i don’t think i’d ever be past Paladins essentially being tools of higher powers

[raw ocean]

My DM throwing 2 CR17 frost worms at me… The humble force cage:

[rough basalt]

In 5e, Charisma is what represents force of Will, tho in older editions, Wisdom and Intelligence were part of Will

[glass granite]

And that’s fine! Everyone has their own preferences, perspectives and play styles.

[potent siren]

I think its reasonable to allow a paladin to achieve their oath in either case, whether through sheer conviction or through some divine mission set upon them by some being

[lusty tendon]

also owlbears are like top 10 best tasting monsters in dnd weirdly

[limber oriole]

Oh absolutely! No ones right at all! just interesting to see different people’s interpretations!

[tame estuary]

What would happen if we just combine all 3 magic stat

[pastel ingot]

can yall tell me how to create a character

[raw ocean]

My character has stolen 3 drake eggs, 3 frost worm eggs, and he plans on stealing more

[limber oriole]

Icl, i bet Kuo-Toa sushi would slap

[rough basalt]

It'd be better if you read the players handbook or the basic rules on DnD beyond

[potent siren]

Ask around in #dnd-newcomers

[lusty tendon]

well then that would be absurd (enters absurd the lv20 character)

[stoic obsidian]

I mostly said oaths because of how it read under the paladin section for it doesn’t actually say you need a god

[glass granite]

In one post? Choose a class, choose a background, choose a species, choose your skill proficiencies, make your stats from one of the three main official methods and write a backstory.
Here’s a guide;
https://www.dndbeyond.com/sources/dnd/br-2024/creating-a-character

[potent siren]

It is kind of interesting that the paladin class allows for a change in perspective to absolutely gut a character of their abilities

[limber oriole]

Yeah absolutely! I guess i was just sharing my viewpoint of Paladins

[raw ocean]

I will never have any of my characters follow a god, it’s so annoying dealing with a god back seat adventuring you

“Go save the village!” I was gonna do that already but now I’m not going too

[clear lark]

Because they are nature lovers. Can't be a nature lover and want to torch everything

[limber oriole]

I mean do they actually back seat adventure? That’s only if the DM does that.

[lusty tendon]

wildfire druid

[blazing sentinel]

A Sorcerer's spell save dc is 8+(CHA)+Proficiency correct?

[potent siren]

I mean, druids represent the force of nature, they hardly have to like all of it

[karmic pendant]

This sounds more like a warlock patron than a god

[potent siren]

overall, i'd say to just ask your dm if you can have fireball

[limber oriole]

So I’m currently playing a Paladin of Torm (kinda) but Torm has like basically no involvement. Why does be care what a Level 5 Paladin is doing as long as it’s following the tenets of their oath

[potent siren]

Maybe you can unlock it in character via some spiritual mission

[limber oriole]

Yeah I’d agree

[raw ocean]

Somehow my party wizard convinced the DM to let him make a sword that can cast a level 7 fireball three times a day

[tame estuary]

If you're playing a pious character, they would seek out their god. But if you aren't, the god is unlikely to come down and have a chat with you

[marble lion]

oh boy

[potent siren]

pretty strong for the level i'd say, but not too outlandish

[marble lion]

what level is this?

[limber oriole]

Even if they are pious, until you’re uber high level and playing with ultra big stakes why would the god takw the time of day?

[raw ocean]

Guess who just left the campaign, and guess who gets the sword

[clear lark]

I would be okay with that if on the 3rd attempt there was a 20% chance it explodes for the same amount of damage. Destroying the sword in the process.

[raw ocean]

Tier 4 Campaign (17-20)

[marble lion]

oh ok

[potent siren]

Oh wait, cast a lvl 7 fireball

oh at that level, its a decent weapon

3 free lvl 7 fireballs is quite good

[raw ocean]

“That was a pretty strong spell!” The humble arcane cannon sitting in my pocket and charging up:

And I got a sword named “Tiamat” which is basically like 5 dancing swords in one

[lusty tendon]

"thats a cool cannon" the humble shatter spell

[raw ocean]

And they all have rope trick built into them

I like wizards :)

[lusty tendon]

i like artificers as i like to use spells but actually decent in close quarts combat

[stoic obsidian]

I don’t get why you think they backseat adventuring?

What exactly made you think that?

[limber oriole]

I mean if anything Gods should actually be really hands off (if set in the Forgotten Realms)

[lusty tendon]

not if its baal

[red steppe]

The upcasted Shatter in question:

[limber oriole]

Ummmm actuallyyy….Bhaal is a quasi-deity.,,,,.

[raw ocean]

Well with D&D being a game where every campaign is different, in the 3 games where I have followed a god it has been quite direct

Not much to say outside of it being personal experience with dealing with gods

[karmic pendant]

It might depend on the dm

[lusty tendon]

ehh he still keeps telling me to rip peoples heads off

[raw ocean]

Yeah, three DM’s in a row did that so just coincidence probably

[clear lark]

Yeah Greater gods rarely get directly involved, it is mostly the lesser gods and Quasi-deities who get involved in mundane things in the realms. Not saying a Greater God won't manifest for some reason.

[potent siren]

I always have found it a bit weird when low level characters basically have free access to chat with the god they follow

[lusty tendon]

if your lv10< thats when id gave god push you the right path otherwise nah

[limber oriole]

I mean it’s DM dependent for sure, but if we’re being strict to lore i would think most gods are antsy about being perceived as getting too involved lest they risk the wrath of Ao

[karmic pendant]

Are you playing a cleric in any of those times or your character just follows the god and isn't a cleric

[potent siren]

It's not a terrible thing, but its a bit offputting for me personally

[glass granite]

I…haven’t really ever back seated with a god. They’ve got better things to be dealing with, they’ll only intervene if you do something horribly wrong.

[raw ocean]

Cleric twice, paladin once

[tame estuary]

You should be upfront to the dm that you don't actually want to talk to your god

[raw ocean]

Although from memory, none of them were linked to a greater god

[clear lark]

It shouldn't be weird for Clerics, since that's sort of their thing to talk to deities. Some of their class abilities depend on them.

[stoic obsidian]

Like eat their pet gold fish

[sleek cloud]

“That’s a whole lot of 9th level magic missiles coming right at me!” - the humble level 1 shield spell.

[lusty tendon]

the not so humble counterspell

[limber oriole]

I mean is it? Their powers come from their god true but communing with them?

[raw ocean]

“That’s some crazy melee attacks” - The humble force cage:

[potent siren]

Lets be real, if the wizard is spending their 9th level spell slot to cast magic missiles, something has gone really poorly

[limber oriole]

It’s the same way all Wizards use the weave which comes from Mystra

[stoic obsidian]

Forcebreaker Weapon goes brrrrr

[limber oriole]

You leave magic missile alone, it’s valid

[sleek cloud]

Very good point error

[potent siren]

Use your 6th or 7th level spell for it, not 9th!

[raw ocean]

We never EVER tell my DM about this weapon

[lusty tendon]

i cast wish to cast magic missle

[raw ocean]

If I lose force cage it’s all over

[sleek cloud]

Insane

[limber oriole]

But more missiles!

[stoic obsidian]

Only if you are facing super saiyan Displacer Beast

[marble lion]

hey no magic missile is great

[potent siren]

Gigachad 8th level magic missile with a 9th level slot

[stoic obsidian]

You survive with your other spells

[raw ocean]

My character is currently 1v1ing some war forged and he has force cage, wall of gloom, and blade barrier stacked on him

If he fails the teleport save, it’s gg

[red steppe]

The snork mimimimimi spell:

[stoic obsidian]

Dispel Magic

[potent siren]

"I wished these missiles into existence you simpleton, what say you!?"

[raw ocean]

Force cage blocks it

Then I re-cast more spells :D

[red steppe]

Pvp?

[stoic obsidian]

Oh yeah, disintegrate

[raw ocean]

Nah just 1v1ing a past dragon contractor, it’s like gojo vs sukuna

[limber oriole]

Everyone’s gangster until i use the crown of Karsus to replace Mystra with the sole purpose of allowing Magic Missile to be cast at level 12

No other spell

[red steppe]

Oh nice, did you win?

[lusty tendon]

oh shit karsus what did you do

[red steppe]

Nothing, cuz he did nothing wrong

[stoic obsidian]

I wish for the next cast of magic missle to hit your heart directly

[red steppe]

Its all Mystra's fault

[lusty tendon]

mmm i see, now lets see here wild magic surge table (going all in for the antimagic zone, and i rolled fireball on self)

[marble lion]

karsus did nothing wrong indeed

[raw ocean]

Mid-fight session ended

[red steppe]

Ah

[stoic obsidian]

Nah it the DMs fault

[raw ocean]

I have a high chance of winning since wall of gloom will most likely incapacitate him alot

And then blade barrier will chip his health

[red steppe]

Lmao, so you could default kill him

[lusty tendon]

also guys what is better swashbuckler rogue/wild magic sorcerer or swashbuckler rogue / any other sorcerer subclass

[raw ocean]

Ye, he’s lucky he’s a warforged because he would be getting exhaustion checks too

[limber oriole]

I don’t know but Swashbuckler is mental on it’s own

[raw ocean]

But the millisecond he gets downed, it’s wraps

[stoic obsidian]

Rogues don’t need multiclass tbh

[lusty tendon]

i wanna cast thats why, (and no not arcane trickster)

[limber oriole]

But they can just hit and then runaway

It’s insane, like Zephyr Strike but constantly

[red steppe]

Nice

[stoic obsidian]

Then why not make a sneaky sorcerer instead

[limber oriole]

There was a swash bucker rogue (he went out in the goofiest way possible) and he would melt everything

[lusty tendon]

because im not just making a sorcerer, im making a rogue that can use magic, aka 1 lv in sorcerer (maybe 2 for meta magic)

[hidden spindle]

Clockwork Soul

[glass granite]

Take booming blade (or any other weapon attack cantrip), and use innate sorcery for free advan- oh you’re playing 2014

[limber oriole]

I mean i lowkey don’t like playing with Rogues but it’s hard to deny swashbucklers are insane

[lusty tendon]

also i get silvery barbs (i would not do that to my dm)

[stoic obsidian]

I rather play solo class as rogue

[glass granite]

I’ve always wanted to try a rogue sorc

[lusty tendon]

ehh i like multiclassing its fun

[limber oriole]

I’m playing a 2014 ranger in a CoS campaign and they generously gave us an extra feat so i took feytouched to get misty step and silvery barbs

[stoic obsidian]

Magic isn’t everything imo

[lusty tendon]

i cast magic missle apon this opinion

[stoic obsidian]

I just have qualms with multiclassing

[lusty tendon]

completely fair

[glass granite]

My only qualms with multiclassing is when beginners who don’t know what they’re doing try to make an effing monk paladin

[stoic obsidian]

How you gonna cast it when you can’t see me

[limber oriole]

I’ve never multiclassed but i’m tempted to do a Cleric/Sorcerer multiclass

[glass granite]

The ability scores are gonna be iffy there

[lusty tendon]

who said i cant, my wild magic table says i can

[glass granite]

At that point why not divine soul

[clear lark]

I would only choose multiclass if it was a fact we wouldn't reach level 20. The Monk's capstone is just too good to Multiclass away

[deft citrus]

What happens if I hit something that's flying and reduce its speed to 0? Does it just fall?

[lusty tendon]

valid i love divine soul sorcerers as they get so much magic options

[limber oriole]

I haven’t worked through the mechanics but it was more a character idea

[lusty tendon]

yes

[glass granite]

If they don’t have hover, yes

[stoic obsidian]

Poor Fisticus the fist of justice you aren’t so divine as you should be

[clear lark]

Unless it can hover

[potent siren]

I like unorthodox multiclass builds when you have the stat lineup to spare

[glass granite]

I…only like them if you have a synergy in mind

[stoic obsidian]

Tho paladin monk could work if you use combat buffs

But that still be mad

[glass granite]

The ability scores…

[raw ocean]

Best class for making double glazed apple fritters?

[potent siren]

Chef feat!

[limber oriole]

For making or acquiring them?

[glass granite]

Creation bard

[limber oriole]

Bards definitely could sweet talk a kindly old person into making them

Wizard’s strike me as good cooks

[raw ocean]

Making

[lusty tendon]

cooking does use int

[potent siren]

Wizard + Chef feat + Brewer's supplies + Alchemist's supplies

make some crazy grub

[raw ocean]

D&D discord is so peak

[potent siren]

"Here try this pastry. The glaze is made from the distilled remains of a Black Ooze, nice and acidic!"

[raw ocean]

My character recently bought a lot of D&D drugs to make a super drug, he’s going to lace the apple fritters

Then send it to his worst enemies

[potent siren]

Inconspicuous package of apple fritters arrives at your door

would Purify Food and Water get rid of it?

[raw ocean]

I laced the package too

D&D terrorism

[idle oar]

Please mind the server rules (including appropriate content)

[deft citrus]

appreciate it, no one likes applefritters anyways

[hidden spindle]

"Poison & Rot..."

Probably not.

[jagged vigil]

I've been thinking on this a bit more, and why I want this between session play to happen. I guess I was hoping that the messages homework would encourage that kind of individual thinking. "What do I want to get out of this letter?"

When I think of between-session play, I think of what I used to do as a 1e player. Tracking down and purchasing some rare good between sessions so the rest of the party doesn't know, or letters of correspondence to nearby lords, or arranging some awful plot with the DM to screw over some other player or help me out in some way. I remember getting together with half the party between session one time to come up with an assassination plan to off an evil PC in our party that we wanted to get rid of. The big thing I want to do as a DM for between session play is encouraging personal goals, not just party ones. Things these PCs want individually and what their plans are to get that

[hidden spindle]

Apple fritters are so good! The chunky bits and the goofy shape makes it left alone.

[crimson gulch]

Ah, I don't do this, between games we chat and post memes, but if it's not happining in the session It dident happen

[clear lark]

Depends on what this "homework is" as most people don't care to have their D&D game interfere with their personal lives more than it probably is.

[clear lark]

Oh great. This talk about apple fritters now makes me want some. I wonder if Walmart or Kroger has any

[jagged vigil]

Isn't that a pretty new attitude, like 4e and later? I never played 3e ir 3.5e, but in my AD&D game there was a fair bit of between session play

[lusty tendon]

anyways so as im making this rogue/sorcerer i just realized i need a race, any ideas

im thinking goblin or halfling

[crimson gulch]

I have only played 5e

[jagged vigil]

Gotcha

[fossil hollow]

sorry what

[jagged vigil]

I'm not talking about scheduling some additional 6 hour one on one session for each player, just taking a little bit of time each week to shoot a couple texts or emails

[hidden spindle]

I'm thinking HEB, Kroger, or Walmart should have some, yeah. Buc-cee's maybe too

[urban river]

Heylo everyone

[crimson gulch]

I get clarifying questions from players in between sessions a lot, but time and accomplishment only passes in game

[jagged vigil]

"Hey, I know we'll be headed to The Cliffs of Insanity soon. I don't trust Lord Shin not to betray us once we get there, but I don't want to freak out the party. Before next session, can I have hired 150 of The Black Arrows to meet us there with their ships, that way we're in a better position? I don't have the gold, but I can hand over those magic items we got from the mummy tomb. I haven't been using them anyway, and I think they're worth a lot"

Or even "Hey DM, you know how Lord Shin hired us to take him to The Cliffs of Insanity? I still have that letter saying he plans to turn us over to the Lichlord. I want to just go ahead and assassinate Shin in his bed before next session. Jack said his wizard Filthrum will cast Greater Invisibility on me before I go, but I don't want the rest of the party to know. Can I make some rolls on camera?"

[scenic zinc]

They mentioned shrek

[fossil hollow]

speaking of which, gotta ask about the magic item shop later

[deft citrus]

of course, it only makes sense

[scenic zinc]

It's specifically a reference to ti not liking a specific fact about shrek. Namely, the year it came out.

[empty thicket]

If you stuff the caster mouth with food or smt, they wont be able to cast the spell.
Throw perfectly a bread bun inside of his mouth at high speed and you will be able to cut his spellcasting and for not being a spell or smt it cant cast counterspell back

[sleek cloud]

Hey, it’s the yeast you could do to help right

[hollow estuary]

Returning Trident is a Terrifying magic item.

[empty thicket]

oh yeah, if the caster is allergic to something on it then you managed to incapacitate him. Remember to use Restoration on him or he will die.

[empty thicket]

which category it is?

[hollow estuary]

Weapons. Uncommon.

Tridents have the topple property, making enemies prone if they fail a save. they can also be thrown. Since flying enemies fall apon becoming prone, a single hit with a returning trident will send like a dragon chasing your ship hundreds of feet down

[empty thicket]

Just saw a warhammer called sunforger and it made me click in my brain with a fantasy i have about a forgemaster character.

[empty thicket]

Damn, sending "like a dragon" sound dangerous

[lavish flame]

you tryna call out the grammar of that sentence or something? that sentence is fine

[fossil hollow]

por que

[empty thicket]

Dont, im saying that a phrase with "like a dragon" on it make "sound" the weapon like its capable of big things

[empty thicket]

Que so

[hollow estuary]

Because it is.

[empty thicket]

weird that is only uncommon

[glass granite]

Tridents can Topple as their mastery anyway tho

[marble lion]

thats part of the idea

the magic item thing is so it comes back to you, not to topple

[pearl hedge]

i LOVE PBP games

[marble lion]

peanut butter peanut

[glass granite]

Agreed, which is why I think uncommon is fitting

[pearl hedge]

they're so fun and you can put in a reply anytime

[pearl hedge]

i swear to god i am going to start with you first...

[empty thicket]

Pork barbecue and Pears?

[marble lion]

good luck, ive already given you a peanut allergy and am covering all doorhandles in it

[pearl hedge]

I'M COMING FOR YOU NEXT

[empty thicket]

You cant read my mind and know where i am, i dont even know where i am too

[marble lion]

franco is in a demiplane

[glass granite]

Hi Coming For You Next, I’m Nugget

[empty thicket]

i just went to the kitchen for my coffee and end up in the 4th realm of the feys.....idk how

[pearl hedge]

okay i give up. you guys are clearly just going to mock and belittle me

[empty thicket]

Suprisinly there is wifi too

[glass granite]

Nah I love PBP too, I’m in one rn and gonna join one soon

I just like dad jokes

[tribal night]

I'm gonna chill here, it's been a while

NEW TO DND? NEW?

I've been in this server for 2 years, such BS.

[empty thicket]

im kinda new

[stuck shuttle]

Hello kinda new, I'm Nugget StarOfTheLight

[marble lion]

does it really matter

[tribal night]

Not really, I just love complaining

[marble lion]

i wonder why its showing that

[fossil hollow]

you can change your role in id:customize

[lavish flame]

Maybe lurking doesn't count for Discord's "new" thing

[marble lion]

that would make sense if kan hadnt talked in 2024

[ripe shale]

I literally, just joined because my friends irl don't have time for D&D

[cinder timber]

Hello

[ripe shale]

hello to you too

[small arrow]

Hello!!

[glass granite]

Greetings, Zenith

[glass granite]

Check out #find-a-game for information on how to look for a game online

[ripe shale]

Ty i just noticed it too!

[small arrow]

I hope you all are doing well

[cinder timber]

How are you?

[glass granite]

Doin’ well

[cinder timber]

Hello, how goes it?

[cinder timber]

That's great to hear!

[ripe shale]

how long have you guys been playing?

[glass granite]

2 years starting…in around a month

[small arrow]

Less than a month

[small arrow]

Its going well

[potent siren]

Actually playing? A bit over a year. Interested in dnd? A decent bit longer lmao

[small arrow]

I have only played 2 sessions and one was a one shot

My third which I did yesterday I was dm

[glass granite]

Oh neat!

[small arrow]

I kind of bit off more than I can chew suddenly switching to dm

[ripe shale]

I've always been interested in the idea, I just never did it outside of watching shows like the legend of vox machina or playing baldurs gate.

[small arrow]

But my players seem to enjoy it

[marble lion]

i have played since 2021 but there were many months between sessions

with weekly sessions, and no cancelled campaigns, youd be where im at within about 6 months

[glass granite]

For me you’d be where I’m at in…3-4? Maybe a lil less

[marble lion]

then again i guess the past year was continuous dnd playing, though i wasnt a big fan of it. different campaign and group

[potent siren]

Getting started as a player is great fun. There are a bunch of resources in this server to try to find a group to play with, so have fun!

[shy stirrup]

I've mentioned this before, and not to single you out, but I remain impressed at how much you've absorbed in just 2 years, which ought to encourage any newbies reading this: you don't need to have played this game for 40 years to get a firm grasp on how everything works.

[glass granite]

Fake it till ya make it~

[shy stirrup]

Funny, but you can't fool me

[cerulean monolith]

How do people do the group rolled standard array thing?

[ripe shale]

you can fool me!

[glass granite]

I was kinda forced to learn the rules quickly because I started as a DM, and I made a TON of mistakes (my players never got to find out) but those helped me learn and here I am.

[shy stirrup]

Ah, so that explains it, partially

[fossil hollow]

have everyone roll, then they pick one set

[glass granite]

I think everyone rolls stats, and the table decides on which array they like best

[ripe shale]

do I use AI for world building?

[shy stirrup]

I started as a DM too, it does make you pay attention to the details

[glass granite]

I don’t like using AI for worldbuilding

[empty thicket]

for map making maybe, i wont recommend it. There is lots of maps and stuff, even for worldbuilding
Sometimes you dont need a whole world

[lavish flame]

I've been playing for... oh jeez, 11 years

[lavish flame]

nah u just use your brain and put the shit you like into D&D

[glass granite]

Well put

[glass granite]

To also be fair, two years is a long time
And there are some basic stuff I still don’t know or forget

[cerulean monolith]

I like to say that I woke up one day with a set of dice in my hand… but I’ve been playing for between 4 and 7 years

[ripe shale]

little did you know, im the second coming of oda

[fossil hollow]

not if you use AI no

[glass granite]

Hi the second coming of oda, I’m Nugget

[ripe shale]

I imagine Oda using Ai sometimes

[empty thicket]

or if you need, i can give ideas. I already gave in hte past some in this chat and i hope someone used them for their campaign and stuff

[tame estuary]

I've played for like total maybe 1 and a half year

[median shore]

abominable intelligence....

[tame estuary]

I think comparing someone who actively participates in conversations about the game is different than just playing for 15 months

[glass granite]

-# Should’ve also mentioned, this server ain’t the friendliest to AI

[small arrow]

AI isn't ever the option

[ripe shale]

I grinded 0 dnd hours

[median shore]

as it should U-U

[devout arch]

Hate to be the guy to randomly interupt flow, but any tips on running Curse of Strahd? I already have a 4 player party put together, and was told to toy with them using magical items and such from the shop I bought ti from, but I am looking for any other form of tips

[ripe shale]

ah, igu

[lavish flame]

this is a server full of people who recreationally write and draw. you will not find sympathy for the theft machine here

[cerulean monolith]

#1029833015423143957

[idle oar]

We take human creativity pretty seriously here 😉

[glass granite]

I’ll stay neutral in this front, though I will say that if I’m to make a setting it a game, I’d rather it be mine.

[median shore]

i'd rather draw up the most shakey line, badly shoved together map than make AI vomit smth out

[glass granite]

AI can be good in other parts of technology, but for the creative minds here it’s just not very valuable to us. And if it’s not valuable, it’s downsides become more apparent

[idle oar]

(also don't post single character posts as it's disruptive to chat and to our screenreader/text to speech users)

[shy stirrup]

You might want to ask in #dm-discussion but I'll give you one: Strahd is a very fun villian to play, study how he should be presented and your efforts will be rewarded

[small arrow]

This is so real

[devout arch]

I just realised I put this in the wrong spot lol

[median shore]

[forgot that swearing is banned here and would rather not be seen as trying to bypass automod-]

[keen sage]

Hello?

[idle oar]

Welcome!

[marble lion]

Oda would use anything that gets him ahead

[keen sage]

Thx. How's it going?

[ripe shale]

One piece rant incoming

[marble lion]

Oda is onepiece? I meant history

[idle oar]

Is it D&D related though? If not, better use #non-dnd-topics

[buoyant zinc]

Hey, so I’m really new to DnD and I was wondering if someone could help me with making a character and how everything works overall? it’s much easier for me to have someone explain it to me

[fossil hollow]

#dnd-newcomers

[lavish flame]

Oda is the pseudonym the author of One Piece works under

[buoyant zinc]

Ohh thanks lmao

[median shore]

I wish we could like

choose 2 different class tags bleh

[idle oar]

Check out #learn-to-play and the free basic rules pinned in the message in #dnd-newcomers

[buoyant zinc]

Will do 🫡

[ripe shale]

wow, it really was... directly underneath this chat

[marble lion]

I recommend youtube as its a recording of someone explaining it to you

[tame estuary]

and you can pause to take notes

[buoyant zinc]

Mate, I’m having a huge headache from trying to understand it from wikis and official sources, my brain is barely functioning rn

[devout arch]

Talked through explanation or written?

[raw ocean]

Always take notes, they can save entire sessions sometimes

[buoyant zinc]

So my bad for not seeing it at first

[buoyant zinc]

Bet, I’ll do that

[idle oar]

For folks new to the server, #channel-guide can help you find the right channel for a specific topic

Discord likes to be "helpful' and hide channels

[buoyant zinc]

Both work tbh, I just tend to understand much better when someone uses their own words

[median shore]

bwaaaaabbbb...

[ripe shale]

honestly, I'm at that stage where I'd just watch what the DM and other players are going to do'

[tame estuary]

then why would you be the one worldbuilding?

[ripe shale]

idk i was just asking to see if thats what anyone actually did.

[tame estuary]

as a player, you're not really expected to do any of the worldbuilding
so don't worry about it for now

[knotty pasture]

Just build your own world lol (no AI) or use official modules

[ripe shale]

Im gonna spam tragic backstories

[tame estuary]

please don't spam

[ripe shale]

uh...

[glass granite]

I don’t think they literally meant spam

[lavish flame]

the game is a constant back-and-forth between the DM and players. Usually your DM presents you with a scenenario and the players ask questions or state they want to do things. Usually then the DM informs them of what happens due to their actions.

[ripe shale]

but I get can make a creative choice outside of that to shake up the story right? (maybe)?

[lavish flame]

The Basic Rules document has sections that is basically dialogue at a D&D table. The opening chapters are really good about being and opener to the game.

[lavish flame]

The creative choice is "stating what they want to do"

[ripe shale]

Ah

[undone fable]

hows dnd

[lyric idol]

10/10.

Only notetaker has the notes.

[lavish flame]

To give an idea, yesterday, while investigating a enemy hideout, my group got spotted by an enemy through a window. When the DM asked what we wanted to do, we sorta panicked and floundered around for a moment. We started asking things like "did we see any symbols on the person" and we learned some actionable info (we recognized the symbol and knew their capabilities). Our Druid turned our Ranger into a ball of gas to be discrete, the Druid then turned themself into a snake and hid in a nearby drain. I turned myself and our Barbarian invisible, and we just hightailed it outta there.

Wild Shape (turning into a snake) and Gaseous Form aren't like... written to be stealth abilities, they're general utility stuff. We made do with what we had though.

Thats the juice of D&D

[snow agate]

i wouldve waved

[ripe shale]

So like, I can take an ability already in a game, and put my own spin to it for the sake of my character's lore

[lavish flame]

The Ranger did, but then they became oxygen

[snow agate]

oppressed by mages, typical